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764: Can You See That Juice

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	And I was stunned by this.
	Adam Curry, John C. Devorak.
	It's Sunday, October 11th, 2015.
	Time once again for your Gitmo Nation media assassination episode 764.
	This is no agenda.
	Guarding your fragile reality from sea to shining sea and broadcasting live.
	I'm from the Region 6 here in Austin, Texas.
	In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley, where I've got this new noisemaker, I'm John C. Devorak.
	Sorry.
	I heard your noisemaker.
	Shake your noisemaker, baby.
	It's called a crow or something.
	Whatever you do, don't shake the rain stick, man.
	I forgot to mention that.
	Yeah, somebody else bitched about this.
	We gotta be careful with these things.
	They're real.
	They work.
	Doesn't work here.
	Broadcasting it all over the country probably doesn't help.
	Dilutes it.
	No.
	Or sends it all to South Carolina.
	Before we start, a mea culpa.
	A short mea culpa.
	Okay.
	Things always come in threes.
	And we'd had two previous episodes before Thursday's show where something went wrong with the RSS feed.
	And just because I always tweet glitch doesn't mean I don't want to explain it briefly.
	But, you know, you make a mistake and the problem with...
	So republishing an episode in the RSS feed is that a lot of these podcast apps don't really know what to do when something changes.
	So, you know, it's a horrible process.
	A lot of them or all of them?
	I would say...
	What's the one?
	Stitcher, I think, is one a lot of people use besides the...
	Stitcher is a big one.
	And then when you change the GUID, which should tell the podcast client to say, oh, this has changed, let me refresh that, it doesn't actually do it.
	Now, that's bad enough because whenever this happens, the amount of tweets and emails is my own fault.
	But it floods the inbox.
	Hey, man, I couldn't get the show!
	Okay, great.
	Now, what happened on Thursday?
	On Thursday?
	Oh, it's really bad.
	Well, you know, it's kind of a slap on you, because I'm guessing that the other side of this equation, which are the podcast apps, they don't care.
	No, they don't.
	No, they don't.
	They just don't.
	You're right.
	And they specifically don't care about this show.
	Specifically not about this show.
	Now, what happened on Thursday, and I was way out of it.
	The allergies were really, really bad, and so we finished the show, and we do all the post-production.
	I will attest to this.
	Let me give you an example for the audience out there.
	This is Adam.
	Hi, I'm Adam Curry, blah, blah, blah, on the show, on the show, on the show.
	Show's over.
	Oh!
	I'm dying here.
	I like how you do that.
	Hi, I'm Adam Curry on the show, on the show, on the show.
	That's a nice thing.
	He can maintain a professional sound, even though I'm tripping.
	I was tripping.
	Okay, so I upload the show, and I said, Tina, the keeper's coming over, so I want to get everything nice, and I want to be ready.
	We started late, went a little long.
	And so, everything's done.
	I'm in the bathroom.
	I'm starting to shave.
	You're in bathroom?
	In the bathroom, I said.
	I'm starting to shave.
	And all of a sudden, I start getting all kinds of emergency messages from Void Zero.
	I was like, come back, come back, come back.
	There's something wrong with the MP3. Now, in my haste, or in my fog of allergies, I failed to notice that the upload had failed.
	It looked like it had gone through, but there was an error message which I just hadn't seen.
	And although I said glitch, the technical explanation is that our own CDN that we've built, which VoidZero runs completely just because he loves the show, his contribution, it had run out of disk space.
	And so the show only made it up halfway, and then once that happens, we have our own kind of virtual CDN. It propagated half a show.
	It goes everywhere half a show.
	So everybody's freaking out.
	And Boy Zero's freaking out, too.
	He's like, re-upload.
	Okay, so I'm waiting.
	Now, this is going on for about five minutes.
	So, upload the show.
	Okay, re-upload.
	Good.
	We check.
	We test.
	Good.
	I go back.
	Now, when I was on the I Love Laundry tour...
	I think we discussed this.
	You learn to be very conservative with water.
	Not so much that you don't have water when you're hooked up to a campground or what we call city water, but your tank will fill up.
	I think that the gray water tank is what may be.
	Hold on a second.
	I am now incredibly impressed if you're making a segue into some other topic.
	I wish.
	On water.
	I wish.
	So what you learn is that instead of when you're shaving, because I shave with a razor, a wet shave, and I have shaving cream all over my face, and you learn that instead of keeping the water running, you fill up the basin, and then you clean the shaver in between shaves in the water.
	So this has now become a habit.
	Unfortunately, when Void Zero started sending me these warning messages, I walked away leaving the water running.
	And the thing in the drain clogged.
	No, the whole bathroom was flooded, John.
	I mean, the wastebasket was starting to float away.
	The whole thing was flooded.
	This is getting funnier by the minute.
	And I have pictures.
	I like the way you prefaced, though, this thesis about why you had...
	It's true.
	It's the truth.
	It's a good story.
	This is a very good story.
	So I took pictures.
	Now...
	You have no idea.
	Have you ever done this?
	This is like when you're maybe 15 you make this mistake.
	I have never done that in my life.
	Not when you're 51.
	I could not believe it.
	Now, the crazy thing is, you know, this building is, you know, concrete, unfinished ceilings, you know, exposed concrete, and the floors are, what was that, stained concrete?
	I don't know where the water went, but I certainly didn't clean up all the water that should have been on the floor, so I don't know if it went downstairs or...
	Yeah, it dripped down to your neighbor.
	So, The building worked.
	It was not good.
	It was not good at all.
	Anyway.
	And then I still had to deal with, hey man, only got one hour to show.
	What's wrong?
	Can I ask a question?
	Of course.
	Now, since these podcast apps aren't going to deal with this...
	With the standard.
	It's the standard of these.
	With resetting the thing.
	It's an hour.
	It's two and a half hours.
	Could you upload a part two?
	And would that fix the problem with the podcast apps?
	Well, then you have another entry.
	Of course I could do that.
	But what should happen is, first of all, you just replace the file.
	And then anyone who hasn't retrieved it yet will get it.
	But there's so many automatic systems in place.
	What is it?
	BitTorrent Love, I think.
	They grabbed from the RSS feed, so the BitTorrent version was truncated.
	The BitTorrent Sync version was truncated.
	It's never-ending.
	Well, he explains our lack of donations.
	Then I take full responsibility.
	I'm very, very sorry.
	I understand what you have to do, but it just seems to me that if I'm running one of these apps...
	I would be a little more forgiving because I'm sure this happens a lot with all kinds of people.
	Yeah.
	And it's something that is at the core...
	I mean, I think it's happened to us two or three times over the last eight years.
	We've had our mistakes, yeah.
	But really, it's a part of the core RSS system with this GUID, which is a unique identifier for the post.
	And when it changes and it removes it, the feed should be reparsed and then it should have the proper episodes there.
	But a lot of this does not work.
	Anyway, sorry.
	And then it's amazing how many people say, where can I get a copy?
	Where can I get the show?
	We've forgotten that you can download it from the website.
	That has always baffled me.
	You can play it from the website.
	What am I going to do?
	Noagendashow.com.
	It's right there.
	Click.
	Yay.
	Yay.
	Wow.
	I got a lot of...
	Well, anyway...
	What you got on your plate, Willis?
	Well, I was just coming upstairs to start to do the show and I was setting the television to record something.
	But I was catching the end of, or part of the middle, I guess, of this show, I think it's floating around HBO or Showtime, one of the two, called San Francisco 2.0.
	Oh, I'm not familiar with this.
	Is this like a reality show or what is it?
	No, no, no.
	It's a documentary about how San Francisco is being ruined by the tech companies.
	Yeah, I'd say.
	Real estate prices and all the rest of it.
	Uh-huh.
	There's been a bunch of clips that we haven't played on this show, but I've been collecting them on some of these crazy things going on in San Francisco where people rent a house out, and they put bunk beds in every room, and they put 50 people in there.
	Yeah, like $800 for a bunk bed.
	Yeah, for a bunk bed.
	Perfect.
	Oh, yeah, this is great, and people put up with this crap, and then nobody even thinks of going to the East Bay where it's still not cheap, but it's cheaper.
	Mm-hmm.
	And this woman who's the narrator says, and the tech companies have said they don't have to follow government rules.
	Tech companies are saying that they're not going to follow government rules.
	Oh, really?
	And I said, what tech companies said this?
	No tech companies are saying they don't have to follow government rules.
	I was just irked.
	I'm going to contact the producer and ask him, I want to know specifically which tech company have said, we're not following government rules.
	Good.
	You do that.
	You go do that, John.
	I'm going to.
	I'm irked.
	Yeah.
	All right.
	Okay.
	Well, we start with this bombing in Ankara.
	The bombing in Turkey.
	The double bombing, I should say.
	Okay, we can do that, but I think to preface it, I have the perfect clip that I believe should be played here and again.
	Here and again?
	I'm only going to play it once today.
	You might be surprised if you hear it.
	Okay.
	Can you see that juice?
	Okie dokie.
	Oh my gosh!
	Can you see that juice?
	You know, the minute I drag the clip into the player and I see it's two seconds, I know that I've been had once again.
	Okay, this one's going over here so we can play it more often.
	Very good.
	Oh my gosh!
	Can you see that juice?
	What is that from?
	That's great.
	I have three clips from this little thing, and I'll explain it after we play the third one, but that's coming.
	So this is a thread throughout the entire show?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	See, I can start to combine these things that you're sending me.
	I like that a lot.
	Well, you can do this.
	And wash your hands after touching any raw meat.
	Oh my gosh!
	Can you see that juice?
	Juice.
	It's a sickening...
	You know, I got my own story about Juice later.
	That'll be the perfect lead.
	Let's go with the bombings.
	All right.
	Well, first, let's look at what's happening on the ground.
	Boots on the ground.
	We've received from the professor out there, I think he's in Istanbul, that everybody is pretty convinced that this was the government's doing.
	Protesters in Istanbul blamed their government for a pair of deadly bomb attacks earlier in the day that killed some 95 people in Turkey's capital city.
	During a demonstration, protesters held signs linking President Tayyip Erdogan to the explosions.
	Erdogan gave the order.
	His henchmen carried out the massacre.
	The sign read...
	The bombings in Ankara targeted a planned peace march by pro-Kurdish and leftist groups who were protesting the conflict between Turkish forces and Kurdish militants in the country's southeast.
	Video of bodies and blood-stained flags scattered in the streets showed the level of destruction from the bombings.
	As the demonstrations continued into the night, some protesters in a largely working class residential district on the northern edge of central Istanbul hurled stones as riot police retaliated with smoke grenades.
	So, just looking at this, and because we do this show, there's an incredible amount of information that we deconstruct and dissect every episode.
	I recall very distinctly, this is going to go back to probably February of this year, when there were a number of phone calls I've recorded phone calls and conversations that were released to the public regarding one, Erdogan, and there was some corruption going on with him and his son.
	But then were these two, if you recall, John, there was a conversation, it was overheard, it was recorded, there were transcripts everywhere of these two Erdogan officials talking about creating what we would call a false flag.
	And they said, oh, you know, what we're going to do is we're going to start bombing crowds.
	And then we'll use that to go and attack the Kurds in northern Syria.
	And now they did it.
	Do we have that clip?
	Well, we don't have...
	Of course, we don't have an actual audio that is usable for the show because it's not in English, but I do have this.
	Do it in a minute, Terrell.
	Turkish Prime Minister Ahmad Davutoglu told reporters there was strong evidence to suggest the twin attacks at a pro-Kurdish rally in Ankara was the work of two suicide bombers.
	That's enough.
	You don't need to know any more than that.
	No.
	This is it.
	How did a suicide bomber do that?
	It doesn't make sense.
	No, I don't think there's any suicide bomber.
	Here, from the transcript.
	Of course not.
	I mean, I could coordinate the diplomacy, but civil war, the military, we don't have any problems with that.
	Second after it happens, it'll cause great internal commotion.
	The border is not under control.
	Yes, the bombings are, of course, going to happen, but I remember our talk from three years ago, and it goes on and on, the whole transcript in the show notes.
	They talk specifically...
	About bombing crowds to create huge outrage so that they can then...
	Oh, they got their outrage.
	Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
	Aimed in the wrong direction.
	Yeah, well...
	So this is not...
	This is no surprise to anyone who has no agenda thinking.
	No.
	Although a lot of people with no agenda thinking will see things that don't exist, which is what we haven't been able to fix.
	Yeah, that does happen.
	It does happen.
	But it's okay.
	It's training.
	People got the training wheels on.
	It takes a little while to be able to figure out.
	And then there's this, I think, what we should be on the lookout for is the tomb of Suleyman Shah.
	Are you familiar with this artifact?
	Yes.
	I didn't know that he had it.
	I know Suleiman, but I didn't know about his tomb or what's going on with it.
	So he, of course, according to legend, is the grandfather, the founder of the Ottoman Empire.
	Now, his tomb has been moved, it has had three different locations since, I guess since he died in 1236.
	All of them in Syria, but they have been moving this tomb closer to the Syrian-Turkish border.
	Let's see, in 73, the tomb was under threat of being flooded by Lake Assad.
	And then they agreed, Turkey and Syria agreed to move it 85 kilometers north, but still along the Euphrates riverside.
	And that's only 27 kilometers from the Turkish border.
	And, you know, this is an ongoing struggle.
	And just as a symbol, I'm pretty sure we'll see the tomb of Suleyman pop up as a target.
	That's just a future vision that I think is coming down the pike.
	Whenever you can get something like that, in a way it's like the flag for us or something of that ilk.
	More like moving the Washington Monument around.
	I don't think it's that big.
	And of course now the military-industrial complex is going to expand the number of troops at the Incirlik Air Base in Turkey.
	I didn't know this.
	That air base has 5,000 troops on it.
	That's the biggest one anywhere, you know, let's just call Turkey a part of Europe for all intents and purposes.
	And they're going to expand it by another 2,500 capacity.
	So this is kicking off.
	Huh.
	Yeah, well, everything's all hell's breaking loose, let's face it.
	And then we have...
	There's strife everywhere in Europe regarding the migrants.
	This is really getting out of hand.
	In the Netherlands, we saw one of the centers, one of the asylum centers was stormed.
	People are now storming these places.
	There's protests everywhere.
	This is a much bigger problem than anyone really realizes, I think.
	Not if you watch RT. Okay, what you got?
	Well, you know, I have...
	Quick clip, just as an intro to what you have on RT. We had Comey and Jid Johnson all up on the hill testifying about Department of Homeland Security and about the FBI and just how we're doing in general.
	And here's what they had to say about the Syrian refugees, which does not sound hopeful.
	With respect to the potential of Syrian asylees coming to the United States.
	Asylees?
	I didn't know that was the word.
	I've never heard anyone use that word.
	I don't even know the word exists.
	Asylees.
	Asylum seekers is what you'd say.
	How would you spell that?
	Asylees.
	Asylees.
	It looks good.
	Asylee.
	A person who is seeking or has been granted political asylum.
	Asylees.
	With respect to the potential of Syrian asylees coming to the United States, it is something that we have learned how to do better, screening people.
	I should mention that before this, J. Johnson was asked the question, what about the refugees?
	And he, I don't know, maybe he was playing words with friends or something, and he went on this two-minute monologue saying absolutely nothing.
	You know how sometimes in a meeting, like Ron Bloom could do this, we just talk total crap and not answer the question but didn't say anything at all?
	You know these people.
	And he did that.
	Most government people can do that.
	Right.
	But it was really lame.
	And then Jim, as he called, Jim Jump.
	I didn't clip all that because it was so boring.
	It's fine.
	You get the idea.
	Then Jim jumps in with this.
	The experience we had, we didn't do it as well as we should have in the mid-2000s, the first decade with Iraqi refugees.
	So we had to go back and redo it.
	We've learned a lot from that.
	So I think we are more effective as a law enforcement, intelligence, and security community at screening folks.
	That said, there is no such thing as a no-risk enterprise, and there are things, there are deficits that we face.
	I'm not comfortable talking about them in an open session.
	I don't want the bad guys to know what we might not be able to do.
	I understand.
	That's how I sum it up.
	And now listen to Johnson, because Comey did a pretty good job.
	He said, hey, you know, it's not all great.
	We've got to be careful.
	And then Johnson, who, of course, was just shined by his, what do you call him?
	If he's the superior, then Comey is the...
	Superior.
	No.
	Johnson's superior.
	What is Comey to Johnson?
	He's the...
	He's under him.
	He's under him.
	He's underling.
	No, no, no.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	FBI is part of DHS. Comey reports to Johnson.
	Oh, yeah.
	FBI is under DHS. Yes, sir.
	Yes, sir.
	Anyway, here's what Johnson then said.
	Thank you.
	Senator, if I could, with regard to Syrian refugees in particular, I agree totally with what Jim said.
	Oh, asshole.
	We should do the right thing by accepting more, but we've got to be careful in doing it.
	We have improved the process for vetting, from a security standpoint, the refugees who are admitted in this country, and I'm committed to making sure that we maintain that process.
	Oh, stock up.
	Well, if he's his boss, why would he suck up to him?
	Because he looked bad, because his underling shined him.
	They're like, oh yeah, I agree.
	That's exactly what he said.
	What he said.
	Douchebag.
	Well, whatever.
	We're not going to take that many.
	Not like what's going on in Europe.
	Well, there's a bunch of reports going on, including ones that are trying to document what's happening in these camps, which are apparently very poorly organized.
	And which are about to get pretty darn cold.
	Yeah.
	We get in the winter, the winter's coming, and people freezing in tents.
	So the big trend, which I saw, was, and fortunately it's not translated, but you can understand the German, and he doesn't talk for too long.
	But Juncker was being interviewed in front of a large group of EU people and discussing how they're kind of tired of taking orders from Washington.
	At least that's kind of the way the RT played it, which is to their benefit, of course.
	But it's very interesting.
	Play EU Rethink Part 1.
	Okay.
	Welcome back.
	You're watching RT International.
	Washington must not dictate how the EU builds ties with Russia.
	That's according to you, the president of the European Commission, Jean-Claude Juncker.
	Man muss die Russen einfach, ich sage das mal so plump, amtständig behandeln.
	Aber wir können uns unser Verhältnis nicht von Washington ausdiktieren lassen.
	Das geht nicht.
	Washington's not going to dictate what we do.
	What's that?
	He says Washington's not going to dictate what we do.
	That's right.
	Bruce Smith has more on how the mood between Moscow and Brussels might soon change.
	Well, it certainly looks like part of a general thawing.
	Last week, we saw the meeting of the Normandy Four in Paris, which ended on a positive note, discussions about Ukraine there.
	And now, Juncker talks of this almost conscious uncoupling from Washington.
	What is that?
	Conscious uncoupling?
	They're using a Gwyneth Paltrow meme?
	That's where that stems from.
	Yeah, when she and Chris, what is it, Chris from Coldplay.
	Chris is getting it.
	When they decided to divorce, it was a conscious uncoupling.
	And now we're using this?
	A meme phrase going around the EU or something.
	Strange.
	Last week we saw the meeting of the Normandy Four in Paris, which ended on a positive note, discussions about Ukraine there.
	And now Juncker talks of this almost conscious uncoupling from Washington.
	How will it develop?
	Well, it's certainly a feeling that there was pressure on the European Union to place sanctions on Russia over Ukraine.
	And in fact, even the U.S. itself admits it.
	Let's hear that.
	It is true.
	They did not want to do that.
	But again, it was America's leadership and the president of the United States insisting, oftentimes almost having to embarrass Russia.
	What?
	Europe to stand up.
	Oh.
	And take economic hits to impose costs.
	Well, we now know that those...
	Nice.
	That's exactly what we did.
	Yes, and what I get a kick out of is that Biden calls it leadership.
	I was thinking about it.
	Well, it is if you're a war machine.
	It is bullying.
	Yes.
	And now that I think about it, we have been bullying the EU to such an extreme that it's been going on long enough that we've become so self-conscious about bullying.
	That's why bullying is a major, major meme within our own country.
	That comes back to the Dutch proverb, what you say by yourself, with your heart through the health.
	Which means?
	What you are, what you say is what you are.
	I.e.
	what you accuse someone of is what you are yourself.
	Exactly.
	Yes.
	So we're bullies.
	Almost having to embarrass Europe to stand up.
	And take economic hits to impose costs.
	Well, we now know that those sanctions have proven to be bad for both parties.
	Bad for the Russian economy, obviously, but also for individual EU member states, which have both lost trade as a result of the sanctions and as a result of Russia's counter-sanctions.
	So this really marks a turning point in attitude, at least.
	And that's why you have to move on to Russia.
	So it's necessary, says Juncker.
	What was the translation on that?
	Do you remember?
	Yeah, it's something like, it's not sexy, but we're going to have to look at this differently.
	And it was just another, it was pretty much what he said before.
	So it's necessary, says Juncker.
	Now, these sanctions on Russia are up for renewal towards the end of the year.
	The question is, could this rapprochement mean a rethink?
	Yeah, a rethink.
	The rethink is underway, and we're going to get screwed in this deal.
	But, you know, the hypocrisy of the American approach is always amusing.
	While I was doing today's show, I was looking at a lot of Sukhoi jets, because that's what the Russians are really using in...
	And they have a lot of nice planes.
	You know, last night, this has happened twice now.
	All of a sudden, tweets are flying, emails are coming in.
	This is about midnight.
	It's like, Russian jet shot down over Turkey.
	Russian jet shot down over Turkey.
	And I saw this propagate really quickly.
	USA Today, U.S. News, everyone.
	I don't think it's true.
	I don't think a lot of what we're hearing is true.
	It seems unlikely that a Russian jet is going to get shot down anytime soon.
	Absolutely.
	I don't see that happening.
	I was looking at Sukhoi and I was thinking about these sanctions against Russia.
	Sukhoi is a major operator.
	They make...
	I think they're bigger than the MIG company, which is...
	I can't...
	It's McCoy or something.
	It's got some name.
	And the two or three other companies that make these fighters.
	But Sukhoi seems to have the top spot.
	And they must make a lot of interesting components because I'm reading this on the wiki page.
	U.S. sanctions.
	Here we are, the big sanctioners.
	Oh, yeah.
	Sanctions.
	Let me read this.
	Does it actually have a pronunciation guide?
	Yes.
	Sanctions.
	On August 4, 2006, the U.S. State Department imposed sanctions on Sukhoi for allegedly supplying Iran in violation of the United States, in violation of our agreement, the Non-Proliferation Act of 2000.
	Sukhoi was prohibited from doing business with the United States federal government.
	In November, same year, in November, the U.S. State Department reversed its sanctions.
	It doesn't say any more than that, but you know what happened?
	They're obviously supplying us.
	Yeah.
	It's a crucial part for jet engines.
	And rocket engines.
	Rocket engines.
	Something.
	It was the rocket engines.
	I think it was the rocket engines.
	The rocket engines.
	We use Russian rocket engines.
	It's interesting you bring that up.
	I have a quick two-parter here about the missiles.
	So this is CNN probably within three hours of the report.
	There was three hours between each of these reports.
	The first one...
	What we've seen in the course of the past few minutes only is an announcement, quite an extraordinary one, by the Russian Defence Minister.
	He was sitting in the office of the Russian President when he almost casually sort of announced to him that the Russian naval bombardment of Syria had begun.
	He said that four ships of the Caspian Flotilla, which the Caspian Sea is quite remote from Syria, it's not close by at all, but four ships of the Caspian Flotilla had launched...
	Long-range missiles, 26 of them, that had travelled something in the region of 1,500 kilometres, about 1,000 miles, to their targets inside Syria.
	11 targets apparently struck.
	All of them, according to the Defence Minister, destroyed.
	There was no mention of civilian casualties, except to say that there weren't any, as far as the Defence Minister was concerned.
	Vladimir Putin took the news.
	These are often very staged events, of course, but he took Unlike the U.S. event.
	And congratulated the defense minister on the operation, saying that the results of that operation were positive.
	And so that was how the world learned, or how Russia learned, of Russia's escalation of its involvement in Syria from airstrikes.
	To now officially to include naval strikes as well.
	All right, so they're shooting it from the Caspian Sea, which, you know, 1,500 kilometers, these are, I guess, ballistic cruise missiles.
	They're cruise missiles.
	And, you know, considering that we, the United States, you know, can't even drop a few bombs out of a plane flying low without killing, you know, children and doctors.
	You mean in a hospital?
	Yeah, like that.
	Yeah, we meant to hit it.
	Yeah, well, we'll get to that in a minute.
	So, you know, oh, wow, look at the Russians.
	You know, they've got this high-tech gear, they pinpoint surgical strikes.
	Now, we can't have that.
	And I think that, you know, as you were talking about the Russian aircraft, maybe there's a deal going down that has to be discredited because CNN came out with this report.
	Russian warships firing cruise missiles.
	And by the way, whenever it's Barbara Starr, you know it's bullshit.
	Russian warships firing cruise missiles at what it says are ISIS targets in Syria.
	But as the Russian leader celebrated his 63rd birthday on the ice rink, there are new signs of trouble for the Russian military campaign.
	CNN has learned at least four of the more than two dozen Russian cruise missiles launched from ships in the Caspian Sea crashed in Iran.
	They're duds.
	They're no good.
	They're crap.
	They don't work.
	No word from Moscow or Tehran, but U.S. officials say they believe there are injuries.
	Here it comes.
	A setback for the Russian-caliber cruise missile, billed as a highly precise weapon with a 1,000-pound warhead being used for the first time in combat.
	Aha!
	So it fails the field test.
	Yeah, the Russians and the Iranians have both come out and said there's no such event, and nobody was hurt.
	Right.
	Did they report that, too?
	Of course not.
	Of course not.
	No, you're right, though.
	This is what's going on.
	We have the Russians.
	If you start looking at it, that's why I got involved with Sukhoi.
	And that's a MiG, too.
	There's some MiG-29s that the Syrian Air Force has.
	And the Russian planes, a lot of them, especially...
	I didn't even realize that one of the early MiGs was the best-selling aircraft in the world historically and still holds the record.
	Everybody was flying them.
	They're all over the world.
	And this is an armaments company.
	A number of them.
	There's a number of them in Russia.
	And about four or five aircraft builders.
	And they want to run a business like everyone else.
	And they have to do this in real-time testing because the Americans have been doing this.
	And they know that we sell a lot of goods because look at what our jets did.
	Yeah.
	And it's proven, proven in war.
	And the Russians have not been able to pull that off, and now they can, and they'll be selling more planes, which is going to hurt our business.
	So I wonder if this was to tell the Iranians that the Russian missiles are no good.
	I don't know who buys cruise missiles.
	It's not like the jets.
	Everyone buys jets.
	It just seemed to say it's a setback for the manufacturer.
	That's a blatant...
	Yeah, well that was a nice try.
	You know, I don't think a lot of the buyers of these types of products are listening to CNN. Ah, I don't know about that.
	It's all about meme propagation.
	And Barbara Starr is, you know, she's the Pentagon reporter.
	She has her own desk.
	All she does is sit there all day and wait for the script.
	Wait for the press releases to come in.
	Yeah, so everyone got this press release.
	Well, Richard Engel, of course, on NBC. Oh, no, not that guy.
	Or CIA guy on NBC that is going to now dramatize the whole situation in Russia versus Syria with this report.
	Russia's intervention into Syria is escalating by the day.
	So are the risks, including confrontation with the U.S. Senior defense officials tell NBC News that four of the 26 cruise missiles Russia fired at Syria from the Caspian Sea yesterday landed short in Iran.
	Russia and Iran deny it.
	Apparently there were no casualties.
	But what really has U.S. military officials worried is that Washington wasn't informed before the launch, even though the missiles traveled through airspace where American aircraft are operating.
	Already at least two U.S. planes had to be diverted to avoid confrontations with Russian aircraft.
	There has been U.S.-Russian consultation.
	Hold on a second.
	That, by the way, let me just roll that back for a second.
	Let me hear exactly what he said.
	...traveled through airspace where American aircraft are operating.
	Already at least two U.S. planes had to be diverted to avoid...
	You know what those planes were?
	Because I looked that up.
	They were not fighter jets, John.
	They were drones.
	These are the ones that were 20 miles away?
	Yeah, they were drones, not fighter aircraft.
	Yes, they're U.S. planes.
	I didn't realize that they were drones.
	Yeah, no one's mentioning that, but there were two drones that needed to be de-conflicted.
	Already at least two U.S. planes had to be diverted to avoid confrontations with Russian aircraft.
	There has been U.S.-Russian consultation, so-called deconflicting meetings, but they don't seem to be working.
	And what's worse, the Russians secretly recorded the video conference and showed it on television.
	I love that.
	That was so funny.
	Yeah.
	The MILF-MILF conversations.
	Perfect.
	Washington is also fuming at Russia's choice of targets in Syria, mostly anti-Assad rebels, some backed by the U.S. Huh?
	Oh, I'm sorry.
	It sounded like you were yelling in the back.
	We have not and will not agree to cooperate with Russia so long as they continue to pursue this misguided strategy.
	The problem is Washington and Moscow are fighting what are effectively two different wars.
	The U.S. bombing to stop ISIS. Vladimir Putin bombing to keep Assad in power.
	And because these wars overlap, a mistake could escalate quickly and badly.
	Syria has been an open wound for more than four years.
	Now it's bringing the U.S. and Russian militaries dangerously close to each other.
	Closer than they've come in decades.
	Lester?
	If you're going to say open wound, you might as well play the juice clip.
	You're right.
	Oh my gosh!
	Can you see that juice?
	Dripping out of the open wound is beautiful.
	So, Lavrov, I'm happy with Lavrov.
	Finally, Russia has found his voice.
	Unfortunately, it comes in the form of Lavrov, but because of his stature, because of his voice, you know, his whole appearance, yeah?
	And people like him.
	Yeah, and he has a nice demeanor.
	And I really love his accent.
	Well, I'll try his accent in a moment.
	But he is making nothing but sense.
	You cannot avoid.
	You cannot avoid.
	Okay, I can do it now.
	Talk a little bit to you.
	You cannot avoid the conflicting.
	You cannot avoid the impression that the legal...
	Flawed.
	Why is it flawed?
	It is very good how he makes point here.
	You cannot operate without Security Council mandate.
	You cannot operate without the consent of the country in question.
	And we said from the very beginning when the coalition was announced that it was a mistake not to go to the Security Council.
	It was another mistake not to engage the Syrian government.
	Had they come to the Security Council, I believe we would be able to agree a concept which would be acceptable to all.
	So what he's saying is, hey, how come you didn't just come to the Security Council?
	We would have come up with a concept that is agreeable to all.
	But no, the Americans didn't do that.
	And they call the Syrian leadership, the Syrian government led by Bashar al-Assad, illegitimate.
	And Lavrov makes an excellent point.
	And the words about illegitimacy of the Syrian regime, you know, against the background of what we did on chemical disarmament.
	I believe this is very hypocritical.
	Hypocritical.
	The Syrian regime was perfectly legitimate when we all agreed to deprive Syria of its chemical weapons.
	I love the choice of words.
	Deprive of the...
	So, yeah, they were completely legitimate when we were negotiating to remove their chemical...
	to deprive them of their chemical weapons.
	We welcomed in our resolutions and the Security Council the decision of the government of Syria to join OPCW. And everything was fine with everybody.
	I don't understand why getting rid of chemical weapons requires a legitimate regime cooperation.
	And on the other hand, fighting terrorism requires no cooperation with this regime.
	I like how the H's are perceived by a H sound.
	I want to hold your hand.
	But we've still got to get rid of this guy for some reason, even though we loved him a few years ago.
	Well, we need to put a puppet in.
	That's what we do.
	We're never going to get a puppet into this mess.
	This is a quagmire.
	Meanwhile, play the flawed strategy.
	This is the clip from last of the show.
	This is flawed strategy.
	This is Ash Carter's complaints about the Russian intervention.
	U.S. Defense Secretary Ash Carter says the U.S.-led coalition will not be cooperating with Russia in the fight against Islamic State because Russia's strategy is tragically flawed.
	I've said before that we believe Russia has the wrong strategy.
	They continue to hit targets that are not ISIL. We believe this is a fundamental mistake.
	Despite what the Russians say, we have not agreed to cooperate with Russia so long as they continue to pursue a mistaken strategy and hit these targets.
	Well, Carter clarified the U.S. position during a press conference in Rome with Italian Defense Minister Roberto Pulitti.
	He said the U.S. will, however, conduct basic technical talks with Russia about efforts to ensure flights over Syria are conducted safely.
	Meanwhile, the Russian Defense Ministry says Washington's refusal to share intelligence with it about the position of the Islamic State militants shows the U.S. is looking for an excuse not to fight terrorism.
	So, it looks...
	Go ahead.
	First of all, this clip is probably about, I don't know, five, six days old.
	It's not that old, but they still maintain this position.
	And this failure to share information on which I still...
	I think you and I would agree there probably are guys...
	Might be because we really don't know anything, and we're just trying to bluff our way, because we're not interested in really doing it much more than rebelizing.
	I'm in agreement, and I think that this bombing in Ankara was intended to, if not now, in the near future, to invoke Article 5.
	Because, of course, as we found out on the last show, yes, indeed, Turkey is a NATO member.
	So an attack on one is an attack on all.
	This will come out as Syrians, but maybe they'll blame it on the Kurds in northern Syria.
	But it will be the reason, the only reason to at least gear up to have a full-on NATO assault, because I think we're pretty much checkmate now in Syria.
	Anything we do with the Russians in there is going to make us look bad.
	And to that point, here's a more recent clip from Ash Carter, who is he doesn't seem like a military guy at all.
	You know, he's he's really a politician and he's pretty good at it.
	Now, knowing that we the John McCain, who I have another update from, has said in no uncertain terms that we have two groups of so-called rebels fighting in Syria against Assad.
	One is the DOD.
	One is the DOD contractors, which McCain takes responsibility for.
	The other one are the CIA contractors, which McCain always poo-poos and says, well, you know, that's their guys.
	We have nothing to do with them.
	And, of course, that probably is ISIL. But first, here's Ash Carter saying, well, maybe we're just going to have to stop that and rethink.
	With respect to the issue of training forces in Syria that will take the fight to ISIL on Syrian territory, that is an important ingredient of our overall counter-ISIL strategy, and the United States remains committed to that.
	We have been looking for now several weeks at ways to improve that program.
	I wasn't satisfied with the early efforts in that regard.
	It didn't work.
	Working at different ways to achieve basically the same kind of strategic objective, which is the right one, which is to enable capable, motivated forces on the ground.
	To retake territory from ISIL and reclaim Syrian territory from extremism.
	So we have devised a number of different approaches to that going forward and taken them to President Obama.
	And I think you'll be hearing very shortly from him in that regard about the effort, the proposals that he has approved and that we're going to go forward with.
	Yeah, so you're on the ground.
	You're part of the DOD supplied and financed and supported group, and this is going on.
	Like, yeah, we'll have a meeting, and we'll see what's going to go on.
	We're coming up with some new strategies.
	Oh, yeah, you're getting on the other side as fast as you can.
	Yeah, now, here's McCain, which I thought was just a big, like, whoa clip.
	Where, again, let's take into account, we have the McCain-backed guys, which is Department of Defense, Pentagon, and these are all, as Putin himself says, these are all mercenaries.
	They'll work for whomever, but as long as the U.S. keeps supplying them, they'll work for them.
	But then the other guys, the CIA, our thesis, that this is ISIL. Right.
	And that would be backed up by the report, the military report that came out two years ago that said we needed to make an organization.
	Yes, we needed to make it, and so that's exactly what CIA does.
	And so if you listen with that in mind to what McCain says here, he's not lying.
	Do you believe that Russia is targeting ISIS targets or not?
	They're not.
	They may be targeting some, Chris, but it's interesting.
	Their initial strikes were against the individuals and the groups that have been funded and trained by our CIA in an incredible flaunting of the Of any kind of cooperation or effort to conceal what Putin's priority is, and that is, of course, to prop up Bashar Assad.
	And by the way, I can absolutely confirm to you that there were strikes against our Free Syrian Army or groups that have been armed and trained by the CIA because we have communications with people.
	What?
	So not only is he saying, yeah, they struck...
	Well, it wasn't ISIL, but it was really the guys who are ISIL. Because we talk to them.
	We have confirmation.
	Excuse me, CIA. We know what's going on over there.
	We know what you guys are doing.
	There.
	And so now we're going to have...
	A meeting of the military or some kind of communications, that seems to be the administration's first priority.
	And so we can stand by and watch them strike those groups that are fighting against Bashar Assad that we're training and funding.
	This is an Orwellian experience.
	That's for sure.
	For John McCain to say it's an Orwellian experience is quite rich.
	Here's the thing that bothers me about right now what's going on at this moment.
	I watched the 3x3s.
	We're in week 8.
	No, I think we're wrapping up week 2.
	Okay, week 2.
	All three networks, there were two common stories on Friday.
	All three networks played.
	One of them, which we'll get to later, is the Ben Carson story.
	Uh-huh.
	The other one was this story, and it's played in a bunch of different ways, but what bothers me is that we did this story, and you remember it, because it came out of Democracy Now!
	clip, and it was like two, three shows ago about how they've taken the $500 million away from this project.
	Yeah, from funding the rebels, yeah.
	They all, on Friday, they reintroduced the story to the mainstream media for a second go-round.
	As if the first go-round of the story...
	It didn't hit home.
	It didn't hit home.
	It didn't do the job.
	Or they wanted to rephrase it or restate it or put it in different words.
	And I was stunned by this.
	I'm thinking...
	This is an old story that is now being rehashed as though it's a new story.
	And they kind of twist it a little bit this way and that way.
	And nobody got the same version of the second go-round.
	But this is one of them.
	This is the 500 million story redo.
	Now to an outrage involving your money tonight.
	A half a billion dollars in U.S. taxpayer money, supposed to train thousands of moderate rebels to fight ISIS inside Syria.
	Well, tonight, the Pentagon admitting the program is a failure.
	So let's get right to ABC's chief global affairs correspondent, Martha.
	Yeah, it's a failure now, all of a sudden.
	New, new, new.
	It was like a failure like three or four, like a week and a half ago.
	Yeah.
	And now it's a failure again tonight.
	What are they up to with this?
	And this is ABC, correct?
	And this is ABC.
	Yeah, well, they have direct ties to the White House.
	Well, no, but all the networks ran the story.
	Pretty much the same.
	The program is a failure.
	So let's get right to ABC's chief global affairs correspondent, Martha Raddatz.
	Martha, I want to show everyone at home some of the numbers, the math we did today.
	$300 million contracted out so far, but only 80 rebels believed to be trained in actually fighting.
	That's about $3.75 million per fighter.
	And Mark, you were telling us the Pentagon's going to continue the program, just evolve it a little bit?
	Hey, those guys got great math, don't they?
	We did the math, we had a little meeting, and boy, that's like over $3 million per fighter.
	Yeah, mercenaries don't come cheap.
	They certainly will.
	The new plan for the $500 million program is this.
	Instead of training rebel units, rebel leaders will be taught battlefield skills like how to provide information for airstrikes, and then they will go join up with their units already in Syria.
	The units will be given ammo, and if they prove their worth, they will get bigger and better weapons.
	But two things are clear, David.
	This will take a long time, and there is no guarantee this program will succeed either, David.
	Very costly already.
	Very costly.
	Thank you, Martha.
	I thought about why we're having a...
	A redo.
	There's another word for it.
	A reset?
	A reboot.
	Reboot of the same exact story.
	And I will say that there's a little variation on the way to conclude.
	One variation, I think it was on PBS, says that they're just going to end up giving the money to the Kurds, which we probably won't give them anything.
	Right.
	Here's the reason I think they rebooted the thing and tried to get, now we bring it up again, put it back in the public's mind so you forget the original report.
	The original report was pretty much centered around the idea that we gave them all this money and the first thing they did was give it right to the Al-Qaeda.
	Right.
	Remember that?
	Yeah, of course.
	Yeah, they took them.
	Oh, yeah.
	Thank you for all your money.
	Here, Al-Qaeda.
	Here, Al-Nusra.
	Take the guns.
	And they had these guys.
	We didn't play all the clips that I had, but they had these guys say, oh, no, we just gave the guns to Al-Nusra because it was...
	Yeah, they were already in place.
	We didn't have to organize the team.
	They were already there.
	And I think they wanted to reset that story, so people forgot that.
	The hypocrisy, though, of yelling at Putin that he is...
	Putin!
	You know, arming rebels in Ukraine, eastern Ukraine, yet we're doing exactly the same thing, and it's okay.
	No one, no one questions that.
	No.
	No one, or even funnier, and a lot of people on the face page did pick up on this, where the president says, you know, country doesn't need guns to protect itself, yet we're giving guns to a country to protect itself.
	I mean, it's crazy.
	Yes.
	It's crazy.
	It's crazy.
	It's completely nuts.
	Good catch.
	Good catch on that.
	Good catch on that.
	So I have...
	Yeah, it actually was like really a head scratcher when I said...
	And they're playing it as though it's news.
	Yeah.
	Today.
	It happened today when this is like old news.
	Yeah.
	I have a couple of things on the Russians...
	This is from RT, and this is the Russians bragging.
	Their approach to the Syrian thing is very propagandist, again, very old-fashioned.
	When I'm listening to this particular report, I'm thinking, wow, this sounds like Stalin in the 50s.
	It's just this kind of old-fashioned...
	Everything's going great.
	We're very careful about what we're doing.
	We're not like these other boneheads.
	This is Russian bragging about Syria.
	Russia's Air Force has stepped up its campaign against ISIL with a record 67 sorties in the last 24 hours alone.
	That's the most since this coalition started hitting terrorist strongholds in the country.
	Now a major strike hit ISIL headquarters here in the militant hotspot of Raqqa.
	We can show you the precise pictures of the terror bases being hit in another key ISIL command post, Aleppo.
	Terrorists were killed in a former prison converted into an Islamic State base.
	Deputy Chief of Staff Lieutenant General Igor Makachev added other targets hit include, quote, communication hubs, command posts, fuel stores and terrorist training bases.
	As a result of our airstrikes, the militants are taking heavy losses and have been forced to change their tactics.
	They're now dispersing, going deeper into cover, and hiding in populated areas.
	So just replace rebels for American mercenaries, and we're on the short end of the stick.
	We really are.
	That's what you get when you do proxy wars.
	You can't come out and say, hey, they're messing with our guys.
	You can't say it.
	No, you can't.
	You have to beat around the bush.
	Play part two and see where that goes.
	It has been the Su-30SM, a 4++ generation machine called one of the most advanced in the nation's locker.
	According to one top fighter pilot...
	Oh, this is another promo for their gear.
	Yeah.
	This is extraordinary.
	Yeah.
	...meaning what such maneuvers can cause problems for rival states planes for the Su-30SM. This is a standard move.
	Its main function is air cover from potential threats for bombers like the Su-34, but it's also using those moves to hit terror targets.
	Back by the Russian fighter jets, the Syrian army is currently stepping up its offensive across the country.
	And here are the pictures from a district in the Syrian capital, Damascus.
	You know, it's got to be...
	By the way, in the middle of that, I took it out because it was just sound, they were showing the SU-30, which they call the SU-30, but I think we refer to it as the SU, the Sukhoi-30.
	Doing just crazy stuff in the sky.
	Going straight up and spinning around and flat stuff.
	Just crazy.
	Yeah, but that's a promo reel.
	It was a total promo video.
	I would think, you know, with Iran opening up, all these companies jumped in.
	The military industrial complex is all over Iran trying to sell our stuff to Iran.
	And then you have Russia trying to sell their stuff to Iran.
	So this is all about selling weapons to Iran.
	Expensive gear.
	I can't see it any other way.
	It seems, you know, that's what at least part of this is about.
	Oh, man, that thing didn't work, huh?
	Oh, it sucks.
	Their missiles are no good.
	You don't want that.
	Well, the Iranians are already pretty much all...
	It's going to be hard to unseat the Russians.
	Iranian Air Force is already, I think, owned by the Russians.
	I mean, they have all their jets are there.
	Now, amidst all of this, we have one extra problem that is cropping up, and this is on the Wes Clark 5, so it was not completely unexpected, but we're having more issues in the region.
	Lebanese security forces fire water cannon and tear gas to break up an anti-government protest in Beirut on Thursday.
	Protesters hurl rocks at riot police blocking the way to parliament.
	Anger at Lebanon's government over perceived corruption and incompetence has sparked repeated protests.
	Regime change!
	It came to a head in July when the government failed to resolve a trash disposal problem and garbage piled up in the streets.
	Formed last year, the Lebanese government has struggled to make decisions.
	The country is still without a president at a time when the war in Syria has driven more than one million refugees into Lebanon.
	How handy.
	No president, huh?
	Lebanon's parliament speaker canceled the last day of this week's session, a discussion aimed at finding a way out of political crisis.
	I made a mistake.
	It's not the West Clark Five.
	That's the Dave Clark Five.
	It's the West Clark Seven.
	Let's review.
	Let's see how the countries are doing.
	So I came back to see him a few weeks later, and by that time we were bombing in Afghanistan.
	I said, are we still going to war with Iraq?
	And he said, oh, it's worse than that.
	He said, he reached over on his desk, he picked up a piece of paper, and he said, I just, he said, I just got this down from upstairs, meeting the Secretary of Defense's office today.
	He said, this is a memo that describes how we're going to take out seven countries in five years, starting with Iraq and then Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, and finishing off Iran.
	We got it all.
	But I think with Lebanon, we've got them all, John.
	Now, I'm listening to...
	This is my last clip.
	I'm listening to PBS NewsHour, and they have a couple of guys speaking.
	And the Kagans have not given up because this ex-Bush guy came on.
	David something.
	I don't have his name.
	It's downstairs.
	But this guy comes on who is an ex-Bush Kagan...
	Operative.
	An operative.
	And he's trying to get us, borderline to bring out World War III. Now I want you to listen to this character.
	This is the insanity clip.
	And this is where, you have to remember, or people listening to this have to remember that there, and we're talking about the Wes Clark 7, these guys are the ones behind it.
	And this is the thinking that's going on right now because the Syria thing is not working out as it was supposed to work out because the Russians have come in and rightfully came in finally to defend their ally.
	Who they sat on the sidelines for forever, figuring they could do the job themselves because they have all this Russian gear, but they didn't know how to shoot it, I guess.
	They didn't supply the manual.
	Who knows?
	But listen to this guy and listen carefully to his wording because there's one little phrase in here that just really is like, what are you saying?
	Gay!
	Very significant, you know, unintended consequences.
	So David Kramer, what about that?
	I mean, there is the real worry if the U.S. gets involved, it gets sucked in, dragged in, and can't get out.
	The Turks had indicated a long time ago that they were prepared to send forces in if the United States provided cover and support.
	So we should create safe zones, we should create no-fly zones, we should enforce those for any planes that would threaten people in those areas.
	Whether they're Syrian planes or Russian planes, we should give the Russians full notice.
	Any violations or attacks on those zones would constitute an attack that we would have to respond to.
	Nobody wants this.
	There are bad decisions that have to be made here.
	What?
	Bad decisions?
	There's bad decisions that have to be made, is what he said.
	Yeah.
	And he's advocating that we, the United States, in a different hemisphere, put up a no-fly zone over Syria while the Russians are flying around there, which is one of their allies.
	Is he nuts?
	Yes.
	But what he wants is he wants this to happen under Article 5, which I think supersedes the Security Council.
	That's why I think he brought Turkey into the argument.
	Yeah.
	Turkey as the big helper.
	Yeah.
	Turkey, what do they do?
	They blow some people up.
	Blame it on the Syrians.
	It's easy to see.
	Those zones would constitute an attack that we would have to respond to.
	Nobody wants this.
	There are bad decisions that have to be made here.
	But that's where we are right now.
	And I think unless we do that, we will continue to see people get killed.
	We will continue to see people flee Syria.
	So there aren't any good solutions.
	We have to find the least worst option.
	My question is, isn't that an entire new level of risk?
	U.S. planes get shot down, U.S. troops get potentially captured, not to mention a potential conflict with Russia, unintentionally?
	We have the Turks that have indicated their willingness to go ahead.
	We may have other countries, including from the Gulf, although they're not great contributors to this kind of operation.
	The United States could provide the air support to provide the cover that way.
	I think there is a way of doing this without putting U.S. forces on the ground, but there aren't any good options here.
	Why isn't that?
	Well, there's your strategy.
	What?
	What is wrong?
	This man is insane.
	This is the strategy.
	It sounds like that's the strategy.
	This is the desperate strategy at the moment.
	Yeah, well, the problem is everyone has to, you know, tie themselves in knots to explain what's happening because the truth is too ugly to say, well, you know, basically we are ISIS and, you know, everything is bogative, all these beheading videos, you know, which they stopped all of a sudden.
	What's up with that?
	This stopped.
	It just stopped.
	The studio wanted more money.
	Yeah, or people were getting on to it.
	Well, there was a lot of deconstruction by others on that.
	Very obvious.
	Yeah, I think they are insane, John.
	That would make sense with the expansion of the base in Turkey, expanding by 50% from 5,000 to 7,500.
	Now, this does come in some geopolitical news.
	Israeli oil prospectors have discovered a huge oil deposit in the Golan Heights.
	Oh no!
	This makes things more complicated.
	And this is what they found is a layer, I think 375 meters in thickness, in depth.
	Which could be, you know, and I don't think, Israel doesn't have refinery capability, do they?
	No.
	They don't have that.
	But that would be enough.
	So, you know, they already have the Leviathan gas deposits off the coast of, well, Israel, Lebanon, etc.
	But now with this oil, yeah, I mean, people, look at the map.
	Look at the Golan Heights.
	You know, this is, for all intents and purposes, Syria.
	So you're going to see them getting into the deal, protecting what they think is theirs.
	Well, there's a lot of action going on right now, and Israel is not being reported so much because the way our news is structured currently, we cover just, I don't know, 9 to 11 stories on a daily basis, and this isn't one of them in the mainstream media, but it's all over every place else, including even in China.
	And this is the stabbings in Israel clip, so we can catch up with this, so we all know what's going on.
	Instead of peace, a new wave of violence is gripping Israelis and Palestinians.
	And it reached a new peak today as Israeli troops shot and killed six protesters.
	The trouble erupted in chaotic scenes along the Gaza border where young Palestinians rolled burning tires and threw rocks.
	Meanwhile, the leader of Hamas in Gaza praised a recent rash of stabbing attacks on Israelis.
	And there were more stabbings today, including an apparent revenge attack by a Jewish man who knifed four Arabs in southern Israel.
	I'm sad now I didn't clip.
	I was watching the...
	Stabbings.
	Yeah, I was watching the State Department briefing, and I didn't clip it.
	God damn, I should have.
	Well, Matt said, hey, how come when Palestinians stab Israelis, you call it an act of terrorism, but when an Israeli stabs Palestinians, it's not an act of terrorism.
	And the guy went, hummina, hummina, hummina, hummina.
	I would think it's just an act of stabbing.
	Well, I know, but, you know.
	There's a lot of stabbing going on.
	We're living in a war of words, my friends.
	Stabbing.
	Stabbing.
	Stabbings.
	Knifed.
	With that, I'd like to thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you, John C. Well, in the morning to you, Mr.
	Adam Curry.
	Also in the morning to all ships at sea, boots on the ground, feet in the air, subs in the water, and all the dames and knights out there.
	In the morning to everyone in the chat room, noagendastream.com.
	Good to have you all aboard.
	In the morning to our artists, and we'd like to say in the morning to 20-watt bulb, a twofer.
	Not only did he provide us with the artwork for Episode 762, the 400,000A bonds, but also a 763 transgester.
	And this was, of course, the Toyota commercial, the Toyota ad with the caliphate running behind it.
	Everybody loving Toyota.
	Jump for joy.
	Jump for Toyota.
	The Toyota-thon is on.
	And you can find all of the art.
	And certainly, oh, I'd like to hear what you, for the newsletter, what credits you have.
	You can find it at noagendaartgenerator.com.
	Then you used a couple pieces, I think, in the newsletter.
	Not in this last one.
	It was the one before, and I credited it on the last show.
	Okay, good.
	You only had seven puppies.
	Yes, I know.
	The other puppy had eaten one of those black hamburgers, and it was out pooping green crap.
	Have you seen our producers?
	No.
	I took one for the team on Twitter.
	Yeah.
	They confirm.
	They confirm.
	Green poop.
	Yes, a number of people apparently have eaten this burger and gotten the green poop.
	Yep, excellent.
	I'm not eating anything that's going to do that sort of damage to my normal poop.
	Doesn't sound healthy.
	Doesn't sound safe.
	No, not at all.
	Sir Thomas Nussbaum is safe, though he's safely in now as a duke.
	Nice.
	Came in with $480 from Virginia Beach, Virginia.
	Sir Nussbaum here.
	I'm now a Duke.
	Thank you so much, Adam, John, and the entire No Agenda family.
	I'm so honored.
	Everyone send me pics.
	My birthday is the 13th.
	And he wants a Fletcher Nussbaum yell, little girl yay, and that horrible scream that we've isolated.
	Nussbaum!
	Moose bomb.
	Work for...
	Yay!
	You've got karma.
	Well, congratulations.
	The juice clip followed by the scream would be good.
	Okay, hold on.
	We can do that.
	With the calm down?
	No, just the regular.
	No, just the juice.
	Okay, let's give it a shot.
	Oh my gosh!
	Can you see that juice?
	Good.
	Excellent.
	I can't wait for the whole juice sequence.
	I'm very excited.
	Another one's pretty good.
	They're all three clips.
	I'm super excited.
	Our next executive producer is William Granger of Marion, Indiana.
	$310.26.
	I'm already on my path to knighthood, but after reading another superb newsletter by Mr.
	Dvorak, I feel compelled to graduate from associate executive producer to full-blown executive producer.
	And that $310.26 gives him a double executive producership.
	That's right.
	You want to explain that for a second?
	Yes, anyone who donates, 1026 is our birthday for the 8th anniversary of the show, and anyone who donates any variable that has 1026 in it, if it's over associate executive producership, which would be $210.26, gets credit for an associate producership or executive for the show that they sent it in for, but plus, again, on the 29th when we do our anniversary show.
	26th?
	Is it 26th?
	The 26th is a Monday.
	Oh, okay.
	I gotcha.
	I feel compelled to graduate from associate executive producer to full-blown executive producer, mostly because I don't think either of you can pull off native advertising.
	We might actually be really good at it.
	Yeah, you never know.
	We're not going to find out on this show.
	I also want to remind everyone that if they don't support the show, we will all become slaves getting used to mac and cheese.
	Which brings me to the second clip in the series of three.
	Oh no!
	I see it, I see it, I see it.
	Crowd pleaser.
	Mac and cheese.
	Mac and cheese.
	So if you have leftover pasta, whatever, put it in, you bake it and make a beautiful brown.
	I mean, it goes with everything.
	It does.
	Oh, man.
	I get it now.
	Oh, my gosh.
	Can you see that juice?
	But what was that from?
	What fine news organization?
	You might as well play the third one then, which is the yum clip.
	And I'll explain it.
	Hold on.
	Yum?
	Beautiful yum.
	Oh, okay.
	Beautiful.
	Yum!
	Oh, God.
	What was that?
	This is the Home Shopping Network.
	Oh, gosh.
	And this is, you know, all ads all the time for some product or other.
	And this is Wolfgang Puck, who is making the mac and cheese, which goes with everything.
	And all this other stuff in this crazy oven he's selling.
	That is a pressure cooker oven.
	It's like 400, 300 bucks, I guess, or something like that.
	And you put, and it cooks, you put like a turkey, a turkey, I can't even say how he says it, in this thing, and it'll cook a whole turkey with stuffing and everything in 55 minutes.
	Wow.
	Under some circumstances.
	I look at it, and I've seen this thing, I look at it, and it looks like a cleanup nightmare.
	I don't know how you clean this thing.
	I am really in awe of you.
	I mean, it's one thing for the past three months to be watching three networks for three months.
	Three weeks.
	Yeah, okay, three weeks, sure, John.
	Three by three.
	But then to add into your mix, into your viewing mix, the home shopping channel, you are truly a god amongst men.
	Well, when you can get clips like this Yum Clip, I mean, come on!
	She does this throughout the show.
	It's very interesting to watch.
	It's almost like a religious thing where you have the preacher and then everyone yelling amen.
	She's like the amen person.
	And so he'll do something.
	He'll say, look at this.
	I'm cutting through the ham.
	Oh my God!
	That ham looks so good!
	Amen.
	That's where the juice came from, because he holds up this ham, these slices of ham, that are soaked with this sugary goo on the outside, and the goo is what's falling off.
	There's no juice.
	It's just goo.
	Is it goo or spooge?
	It's just goo, and it's coming off real thick, like a syrup.
	It's like a syrup pouring off this ham piece, and she goes nuts.
	Oh, nice.
	Anyway, okay, you got your explanation.
	All right, so we have to do a sequence here.
	What is it?
	Hold on.
	Mac and cheese just wants karma.
	We got that for you.
	Hold on a second.
	Crowdblazer, mac and cheese.
	Mac and cheese.
	So if you have leftover pasta, whatever, put it in, you bake it and make a beautiful brown.
	I mean, it goes with everything.
	Beautiful.
	Yum.
	And wash your hands after touching any raw meat.
	Wait a minute.
	Living in the mac and cheese life.
	Mac and cheese by Ayn Rand.
	Oh my gosh!
	Can you see that juice?
	You've got karma.
	You get a lot of mileage from this.
	Yeah, I think so too.
	I want to thank William Granger for the compliments and also he's right.
	We do need support.
	Now, our last, which is a associate executive producership, comes from Dame Patricia Biscayne Bay out there in Florida.
	And she has a little handwritten note because she sent a check in.
	It's time for more job karma for a couple of my kids and relationship karma for the rest.
	It helps each time.
	Thanks for saving me the trouble of watching news shows.
	This way I have time to know how to remodel houses.
	HGTV and DIY networks.
	Watch old reruns of NCIS and Criminal Minds.
	By the way, Criminal Minds, my wife likes that show.
	And I just don't like the show.
	I think it's creepy.
	Anyway, she thinks it's a better use of her TV time than it probably is.
	I love the show, she says.
	Jobs and relationship karma.
	Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
	Let's vote for jobs!
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	That'll be our three producers that came in a little low, a little light.
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	There's a lot of good ideas on the page.
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	Credits are real, just like the ones they do in Hollywood for executive producers, associate executive producers.
	And, you know, now we have a Duke.
	It's real.
	There's no reason, there's no law in the universe that says we can't have royalty and awards of royalty like the Queen of England does.
	I have not seen anything in the Geneva Convention that says we can't do it.
	And please support us for Thursday's show.
	Dvorak.org slash n And it goes without saying, we always need everyone out there doing the very important work of propagating our formula.
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	So, I was in Houston.
	Oh, yes, yes, yes, the report.
	Yes, I was in Houston.
	You drove or flew?
	I drove.
	Okay.
	It's two and a half hours driving.
	If you wanted to fly, it would take you longer, and you wouldn't be mobile.
	Dexter, Dexter the Vapor, Christina's ex-boyfriend, and they're still really good friends.
	Dexter's kind of like my long-lost son.
	So Dexter is in Houston for the Vape Summit 4.
	Now you have to know, Dexter, he went through a pretty strange time, so to see him pull himself up by his britches and become a businessman was nice to see.
	It's nice to witness.
	So Vape Summit 4 in Houston at the big George R. Brown Convention Center.
	I've been there.
	Phenomenally interesting, John.
	Just...
	Unbelievable.
	There is so much money going around in this business right now.
	And there's a couple things.
	And I don't think in mainstream, whenever you hear about vaping, it's always, oh, it blew up and took the guy's nose off and blew his face off.
	Now, hardware, these shows barely have hardware sales.
	There's a couple of them, but...
	Really, the Chinese have cornered the market on the actual vaporizers.
	Okay.
	That would make sense to me.
	They have blanketed that, and there's no money to be made in that.
	Although there's a lot of guys making mods, you know, handmade, beautiful wood.
	Mods.
	Mods.
	Yeah, it's called a mod.
	That's what it is.
	Yeah, it's mod version 3, really, third generation.
	So this is all about, and that's why your clip is so interesting, the e-liquid, which in the industry jargon is known as juice.
	Does it get any better?
	Oh my gosh!
	Can you see that juice?
	And so it's all about, since the juice itself is pretty much, everyone is doing the same thing.
	You've got your flavors, you've got your fruity flavors, you've got your custard flavors.
	There was one outfit I thought was an interesting twist.
	They have yogurt flavors, and it tastes like yogurt.
	Have you tried?
	I tried everything.
	Oh yeah, you can try everything.
	You walk in, the bottom, so it's the ground floor, the big hall on the ground floor.
	John, it was blue.
	The whole place was just blue from vape smoke.
	It's not smoke, it's vape.
	It did not completely disappear.
	Well, they had to, eventually, this was before the show opened, because Dexter is a dealer, distributor, or whatever, and those are appropriate words.
	So everybody basically has the same type of stuff.
	It's all about the branding and the packaging.
	So you've got the crazy, you know, clown juice line, which is just, you know, like a...
	So there's different lines.
	Oh yeah, it's all about the juice.
	And the reason why, and you see these people, you see the kind of Middle Eastern, Israeli-like guys, big stomachs, walking on comfortable shoes with slubby outfits.
	These are the guys who always get into drug dealing early.
	Right now, it's still legal drugs because you can make up these liquids pretty much in your kitchen.
	You don't need to be a high-end scientist to put this together.
	For a 30-milliliter bottle, it probably costs you, depending on the scale that you're making, it probably costs you about $0.50 a bottle.
	Wholesale, they go for between $5 and $8.
	Retail, you're talking north of $10.00.
	10 bucks for 30 milliliters?
	Yes, sir.
	But there are people moving 20,000 bottles a week.
	And everybody there has tattoos, the black cut-off pants at the knee.
	It's like a Wild West, and they're all rolling in money.
	There's tons and tons of money.
	Now...
	Of course, we have legislation on the horizon, and the AVA had a booth, and I hung out there, that's the American Vape Association, because the 2009 Tobacco Control Act is about to be re-examined,
	And what this would do is it would require an SE, a substantial equivalence application for every single vape liquid introduced to the market after 2007, which is pretty much all of them.
	And for one flavor, one nicotine strength, every single new product line, the SE applications cost between $2 and $10 million to move through the FDA. So what you also saw...
	That would put a crimp in things.
	It would put a big crimp in things.
	And what a lot of people are doing is no longer putting the nicotine in, which doesn't seem to be a requirement for most of the users.
	Nicotine is not such a big deal.
	This is my observation.
	So there is a House resolution, a Bill H.R. 2058, which would stop the FDA from banning e-cigarettes and vapor products.
	And you can go to the American Vape Association to find out more.
	But what was interesting about that...
	Is everyone just as flush with cash, and the Chinese were there as well, the Chinese ramping up as quickly as possible with their liquids.
	Now, just on the Tobacco Control Act and that resolution, the tobacco companies, they actually want vaporizers to be in the marketplace.
	What they want, on top of that, is that no one else can get into the game.
	That's why the SE fee of $2 to $10 million, so all these little guys would be...
	Yeah, that's the way free market capitalism works.
	That's how it works, exactly.
	Use government.
	That's right.
	Screw free market capitalism.
	Exactly.
	So, Dexter had a buddy of his along.
	This guy, by the way, was an amazing guy.
	He's a chemist.
	And he has a different business, although he and Dexter have been friends.
	But this guy knows everything.
	He works for Diageo and Johnson& Johnson.
	His main line of work...
	Was research in smell and taste, which is, of course, huge in these companies.
	But now he is selling ISO 9001 and FDA compliance in anticipation of new laws coming onto the books.
	So he would walk over to the Chinese guys and say, well, you know, you're going to get screwed.
	And they would sign a contract with him right there for huge amounts of money for him to certify them.
	In ISO 9001 practices, people are buying up old pharma facilities.
	They're doing anything they can to at least be as compliant as possible.
	It's insane the amount of money that is being spent.
	This guy, though, he's famous, and I learned something.
	He had a very funny story about his dad is a very famous fisherman in the U.K., And he went into the family business for a while.
	And he, if you go to YouTube and you look for largest alligator gar ever caught.
	And I didn't know what an alligator gar was.
	Fish, isn't it?
	Yeah, it's the fish with the head of an alligator.
	Yeah, horrible looking thing.
	203 pounds.
	These things are crazy.
	This is really an outrageous fish.
	I'd never seen this before, John.
	Yeah, they're horrible.
	The alligator gar.
	So, of course, I picked up a few products.
	I got a whole bunch of juice.
	Then I'm testing out.
	I got a big Vapor Shark, which is, you know, that's the Rolls Royce of the mods.
	Okay.
	You were selling mods there.
	Oh, yeah.
	They were made.
	Well, Vapor Shark is, you know, those guys.
	Well, no, mod doesn't mean that you modify it yourself necessarily.
	It's just a term for anything that's no longer an e-cigarette or a vape pen.
	So the mods are the big batteries, lithium-ion batteries.
	This thing is crazy.
	You can turn it up to 200 watts, which will probably burn out your element.
	Now, what was cool is the entire...
	Now, you know what a trade show is like, where you're walking around, you've got that carpet, and you're really tired after a day of walking the floor, particularly if you're a vendor.
	There were some guys...
	How many vendors do you think there were on the floor?
	Easily 100.
	Okay.
	And were there lectures and stuff going on on the side?
	Well, not lectures, but smoke-blowing competition, trick smoke rings.
	Was there a bunch of rooms with people giving?
	No.
	There may have been, but I didn't.
	Not that I noticed.
	Okay.
	But someone, and it was probably the Chinese, because these are Chinese things, brought in a huge shipment of unbranded smart scooters.
	Now, and I had to buy one.
	It's a couple hundred bucks.
	The smart scooter, this is these new kind of Segway-type devices that you stand on.
	Yeah, and you go zooming around.
	Yeah.
	It's very much like a Segway.
	It doesn't have anything you can hold on to.
	Right.
	But you really don't need it.
	It's a fantastic device.
	You can run out without falling on your butt?
	Yep.
	I got it within five minutes.
	I was all over the place.
	Okay.
	Oh, God.
	Really...
	We need a video of this.
	Okay.
	We need a video of you, the tall 6'4 guy, 51 years old, on one of those little things.
	Not a problem.
	And going around, zooming down the street and turning around and coming back the other way.
	But I like so much, though.
	I'll put it in the newsletter.
	So the Chinese, man, they're just flooding the market with this.
	And as I said, these were unbranded, so they were very cheap.
	But the manual that comes with this, this is Changlish.
	This Chinese English in these manuals is hilarious.
	Don't even bother trying.
	Listen to a couple of lines here.
	Page one.
	Do not drive smart too young or too old.
	Please wear safety equipment while driving.
	Do not drive smart under the influence of alcohol or other non-conscious situation.
	Hey man, I'm unconscious.
	Don't put me on that thing.
	Overweight people is hard to drive steady.
	Yeah, that's what she said.
	This is so good.
	If you cannot drive smart skillfully, don't drive it at crowded place or any other dangerous place.
	Thanks for the tip, Jiners.
	Especially for through entrance or somewhere with barrier, please take care head safety to avoid bruising hair.
	In case of emergency, please ensure your own security.
	I mean, these guys are great.
	I think there's a market for helping the Chinese translate things into English.
	No, that market's been long since established and the Chinese refuse to use it.
	They just...
	Ah, no, we got Bill over here.
	He can speak...
	He's good at English.
	You do it.
	Three.
	Cheaper.
	Best price.
	Best price is what it is.
	Do not drive scooter if your weight over 100 kilograms.
	Otherwise, it will cause fall injuries in the processing of use or more serious accidents.
	Okay.
	Do not drive scooter if your weight less than 20 kilos.
	Right.
	If you're less than 20 kilos, you're a fetus.
	You shouldn't be on this thing.
	It's actually 40 pounds.
	Yeah.
	Anyway.
	Then on the way home, because it's two and a half hours, I'm listening to my favorite new media outlet, Sirius Channel 127 Progress.
	Yeah, the progressive station.
	Progress.
	Progress.
	Yes.
	And who am I listening to?
	Thom.
	Thom Hartman.
	And Thom, it was very interesting.
	He totally made the connection.
	I have a clip with this professor he had on, Dr.
	Peter Bregan, talking about the correlation between mass shootings and the perpetrators being on SSRI drugs.
	And this went on for a half hour, and I'll play a little bit of it.
	He never could make the connection between this not being in the news and the fact that these are the largest advertisers of all of the...
	He could not make the connection, John.
	It was astounding that he could not see that.
	Now maybe, you know...
	Is he hoping to get drug companies to sponsor his shows?
	He may be, because the only sponsors I heard were like, you know, buy gold and other things.
	Yeah, those rinky-dink sponsors.
	So let's listen to a little bit, because I thought it was well worth listening to.
	And, you know, this is something you can send to your, you know, your friends who are all on board with let's get rid of the guns, instead of looking at this very important aspect of the situation.
	So my...
	My understanding of the mechanism of action here and the reason why it seems that so many of these shooters have been on SSRI drugs, selective serotonin reuptake inhibitor drugs, as opposed to other kinds of anti-anxiety drugs like the benzodiazepines,
	for example, the old Valium drugs, Is that by inhibiting the reuptake of serotonin, what SSRI drugs do is they increase, the theory is they increase brain levels of this neurotransmitter serotonin,
	but the body senses the fact that the serotonin levels are too high, and so it starts growing new, whatever the cells are, that Do I have that right?
	Yeah, you got it basically right.
	About as good a summary as I've heard on the air.
	There are three different mechanisms, I won't get into them, which fight the effect of SSRIs and actually drive down the stimulating effect that the drug is having on the serotonin, producing a very unstable, unpredictable state.
	And that results in a lot of different emotions that lead to violence.
	Sometimes, really quite often, the people become flat, as you mentioned, and they lose their empathy, their caring.
	But at the same time, there's something about these drugs that agitates people in a terrible way and often makes them feel very, very violent and very disturbed.
	And then finally, among the various clinical syndromes this produces, it actually can cause psychosis of a manic kind with violence.
	Looking at Columbine, looking at Aurora, those young men were in manic-like psychosis caused by the symptoms.
	So we have about a minute and a half left here, sir.
	I mean, why get to the bottom of it?
	Everybody's pointing out the fact that we are 5% of the world's population and we have 50% of the guns and civilians' hands on the entire planet Earth.
	Entire planet Earth.
	It doesn't matter, he's making a point.
	Is it possible that being 5% of the population, we also prescribe more than 50% of the world's SSRI drugs?
	Does anybody know?
	Yeah, we are the dumping ground.
	We are the source of funding for the whole pharmaceutical industry.
	We get more of the drugs and we pay more for the drugs.
	And I think as a third factor, we probably watch a lot more violent video games than the rest of the world.
	Now, this is typically, you know, there's been, as far as I know, the studies have shown no correlation between real-world violence and video game violence.
	None whatsoever.
	However, SSRI-induced players and video games.
	I don't know if that's ever been researched, and this guy makes a claim which could be a possibility.
	He's the biggest consumer of everything.
	And you put together the availability of the guns with the stimulating effect of the drugs, and then the fact that a lot of these youngsters are getting heavily involved in the video games.
	But he could never put it together.
	He could not put that last bit together.
	The bit that we've put together five years ago?
	Yeah, that this is rampant and no one will discuss it on the mainstream because they're the largest advertisers.
	And sure, the guys that make the SSRIs, they make all kinds of stuff.
	And that's what's being advertised everywhere.
	Everywhere.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, and I'm sure that the 20,000 listeners to that channel, whatever it is, 240, whatever the heck you have.
	127.
	127.
	I may have been the only listener, John.
	You may have been the only listener, that's true.
	There's a lot of, I mean, there's so much selection on SiriusXM that why you'd listen to Tom Hartman is a mystery.
	Well, I need to listen to Tom Hartman.
	No, I said, why anybody?
	Oh, why anyone would.
	You're doing it for the show.
	Yeah, yeah, of course I am.
	Of course I am.
	And we'll just stick on the war on crazy for a moment and the guns, because I think this is where we bring the Ben Carson thing in.
	With a quick side note, the University of Texas Austin is creating a protest.
	As you probably are aware, the governor, I think he has signed into law that the UT campus will no longer be a gun-free zone, which makes sense here in Texas.
	Everyone's up in arms, they're freaking out, and they will be protesting with the cocks, not glocks, which means students will be walking around with dildos attached to their backpacks.
	And there is a connection between that and Gunn somehow?
	Is that just a joke connection?
	Yeah, that's it.
	Cox, not Glocks.
	That is the joke connection.
	Why are they promoting Glocks?
	How about Smith& Wesson?
	Yeah, well, maybe Glock themselves did it.
	I don't know.
	That is what they're going to come up with.
	Very funny.
	At least it's humorous.
	Yeah, kind of humorous.
	So Ben Carson got screwed.
	Yeah, I have the...
	Well, Ben Carson...
	He got screwed.
	This is a true media deconstruction.
	Ben...
	Well, you want to play the longest clip I have, which is the one...
	The best clip I have, I have to say.
	This is a...
	There's a bunch of things that took place.
	There's a number of events.
	There's Carson's commentary, which was highlighted by...
	Brolf.
	Brolf.
	It came from Brolf.
	Then there was something that...
	I'm sorry, John.
	I think we should start with that, because the thing...
	Well, that's what this...
	I'm just going to...
	Oh, okay.
	Okay, gotcha.
	The clip I have starts with that.
	Oh, gotcha.
	Now, the reason I want this clip is because this is the...
	This will take everyone up to speed, because this is the comprehensive report, ABC coverage.
	It has three of the topics that all the networks were playing, but none of them put it together into one package, like ABC did.
	And this is a long clip.
	Well...
	That's okay.
	That's okay.
	I was stunned because everybody went after Carson.
	All the networks.
	Let me just say, they went after Ben Carson and said, Ben Carson said if the Jews had guns, Hitler wouldn't have killed them all.
	That was what the abbreviated version...
	And it became a huge to-do.
	You know, it brought in other stories.
	ABC put it all together in one package beautifully.
	...of controversial comments made by Ben Carson after what he said when asked about the Oregon School massacre and guns.
	Today, Dr.
	Ben Carson and his new statements, this time when asked about what he'd written before about the Holocaust, suggesting had Germany not had such tight gun restrictions, the Holocaust might have been avoided.
	There would have been more guns.
	ABC's Tom Yamas on the campaign trail.
	Tonight, Dr.
	Ben Carson taking his pro-gun stance to another level, writing in his book that the Holocaust would have been less likely if Jews were armed.
	But just clarify, if there had been no gun control laws in Europe at that time, would six million Jews have been slaughtered?
	I think the likelihood of Hitler being able to accomplish his goals would have been greatly diminished if the people had been armed.
	The anti-defamation Wow.
	Wow.
	I would not just stand there and let him shoot me.
	I would say, hey guys, everybody attack him.
	He may shoot me, but he can't get us off.
	But now, Carson revealing what he did when he was once confronted by a gunman in a fast food restaurant.
	He did not rush the shooter.
	The guy comes in, puts the gun in my ribs, and I just said...
	I believe that you want the guy behind the counter.
	Oh, so you just redirected him to?
	Okay.
	Today, Carson asked about that on CNN. That sounds counter to what you're recommending right now.
	That's a completely different situation.
	This is somebody who comes into a joint to rob it.
	Not somebody who's sequentially killing people.
	But you didn't know he was just going to rob the joint.
	I did know that.
	He potentially could have killed you.
	I did know that.
	But Carson in second place getting some support today from frontrunner Donald Trump.
	He made a statement essentially that if there were some maniac over there shooting people, he'd charge.
	Okay.
	They said, oh, that's terrible, that's disrespectful to the people that were killed.
	And I didn't see it that way.
	And Tom Yamas with us live tonight.
	And Tom, amid all this controversy, Ben Carson appeared to receive a show of support overnight from media mogul Rupert Murdoch.
	That's right, David.
	Murdoch tweeting, I have the tweets right here on my phone.
	Ben and Candy Carson, terrific.
	What about a real black president who can properly address the racial divide and much else?
	But later, Murdoch tweeting, apologies, no offense meant, personally find both men charming.
	The other man, of course, David, President Obama.
	Back to you, Tom Yamas, live in Nevada tonight.
	Tom, thank you.
	All right.
	I have done some research on this.
	Where do you want to start?
	Okay, but before we do that, can I make a couple of comments about what was said?
	Please do.
	I have a clip of what, the full clip of what he said with Brolf.
	One of the things that they brought, the news guy brought in...
	After Carson said if the Jews were armed to the teeth, things would have gone differently.
	They threw this gratuitous line in there just to kind of, I think it's one of those tricks you use, you just throw something, it's a non sequitur.
	You throw it in and just let people, let it go into the subconscious and say, oh, the guy's a fucked up idiot.
	And it's the Anti-Defamation League said what Carson said was historically inaccurate.
	He is not talking about history.
	He's talking about a hypothetical.
	How can a hypothetical be historically inaccurate?
	This meme has been around for a while.
	It's called, well, the way Salon Magazine wrote it up a couple years ago, it's called the Hitler Gun Control Lie.
	First of all, to make an argument saying something wouldn't have happened if something else had happened is impossible to prove.
	One way or the other.
	Yeah.
	And, you know, Snopes says this is mostly, you know, mostly bogus.
	So the historical context is in 1919, was it 19?
	I think the Weimar Republic, not 1919, the Weimar Republic, I had banned all guns at a certain point.
	No one could have a firearm at all.
	And then when the Nazis came into power, they actually softened the gun law and allowed people to have guns, but specifically said Jews can't have guns.
	Specifically.
	But the context of Carson's comment, which was nicely obfuscated by the report you just played, is a little different.
	This is from his book wherein he writes about guns, and he mentions several instances where totalitarian fascist governments disarmed the public before going after them and taking over.
	So here's a little bit more of the context, and you can hear how Brolf, of course, big friend of Israel, took this out of context and really created this meme.
	...disarmed by their government in the late 1930s and by the mid-1940s, Hitler's regime had mercilessly slaughtered six million Jews and numerous others whom they considered inferior.
	Through a combination of removing guns and disseminating deceitful propaganda, the Nazis were able to carry out their evil intentions with relatively little resistance.
	That sounds a little different than, hey, the Jews should have had guns.
	So, what is the point you're trying to make?
	If there had been guns, there might not have been a Holocaust?
	My point is, that was only one of the countries that I mentioned.
	There were a number of countries where tyranny reigned, and before it happened, they disarmed the people.
	That was the point.
	Noah Webster said, when he was talking about tyranny, that the people of America would never suffer tyranny because they are armed.
	So, but just clarify, if there had been no gun control laws in Europe at that time, would 6 million Jews have been slaughtered?
	I think the likelihood of Hitler being able to accomplish his goals would have been greatly diminished if the people had been armed.
	Because they had a powerful military machine, as you know, the Nazis.
	I understand that.
	They could have simply gone in, and they did go in and wipe out whole communities.
	But you realize there was a reason that they took the guns first, right?
	Okay, so if you go back...
	I almost want you to play it again.
	But there's a spot where he explains that he's talking about the number of tyrannies and what Webster said.
	And then Rolf rephrases and develops a new question.
	And then he did it twice.
	He actually did two of them.
	And he did that Normally, if you're interviewing a guy about something and you're being fair, after he explains why this was written and what it was about, it's about taking guns away from Americans.
	It's not about what happened to the Jews.
	Exactly.
	And so he would have said, okay, that explains what you were talking about.
	And I didn't go on to the next topic.
	But instead...
	Brolf asked a very specific question to elicit a very specific response and then did a variation of the exact same thing again to create a soundbite that could be used as a hit piece vehicle.
	So this was a complete setup.
	A big setup.
	I never heard that whole thing because I don't want to see it.
	That's the beauty of it.
	The whole piece is when put in context he didn't say What he's being accused of.
	And I heard from my Arkansas millennial contact, all of her Jewish friends hate Ben Carson now, which is what you want.
	You want the Jews hating the blacks, the blacks hating the Jews.
	Thank you.
	Congratulations.
	Very well done.
	I would say that, well, Carson's very naive about this.
	He should have stopped and said, well, that's not right there.
	Well, that's not the point.
	And I don't know why.
	Here's the way I do it.
	That's not the point.
	And I really don't know why you're going in this direction.
	Are you implying something?
	If you are, tell me what it is.
	Then throw the questioner into the point of having to answer questions, even though a good questioner will say, well, I'm not here to be answering questions.
	I'm here to ask the questions.
	And then the whole thing falls apart.
	But no, Carson fell right into it.
	And he fell into both of them.
	And, but I did like, he got a little bit of fire on Good Morning America with Stephanopoulos.
	But you suggested maybe arming more people, even kindergarten teachers.
	Are more guns really the answer?
	You know, there's a whole series of things that needs to be done.
	You know, one of the problems with people in the media is they pick one little thing and they say that that's your philosophy on this, which is a bunch of crap, you know.
	Hey, he actually got a temperament there for a minute.
	It's a bunch of crap.
	It's a bunch of crap.
	Oh, media, no good.
	Sorry, Ben, you lost out.
	That doesn't work.
	It doesn't work to blame the media.
	People don't understand it.
	A little thing, and they say that that's your philosophy on this, which is a bunch of crap.
	You know, we're sophisticated individuals.
	And, you know, it's going to be a multifactorial solution to this.
	We're going to have to study these people, see if there are any commonalities.
	Are there some early warning signs?
	We need to empower mental health professionals.
	And finally, how about this news about the House Speaker, Kevin McCarthy?
	You praised him for putting others before himself.
	But other Republicans, like Congressman Peter King, saying this turbulence in the House looks absolutely crazy.
	But here's what's interesting.
	With Murdoch's tweet clearly saying, hey, Ben Carson, all right, the good guy.
	It's a little convoluted by the real black American president.
	You know, I think that was taken the wrong way.
	I believe that Murdoch was happy about the gun and the Jews' comment.
	Witness a prominent rabbi in the EU from Paris.
	Let me see, where's he from?
	This is Rabbi Menachem Magolan.
	He has, here, what am I reading from?
	This is Israeli national news, so I don't know how credible it is.
	Our Israeli producers will let me know.
	Rabbi Menachem Magolan wrote to the governments of all EU member states urging a change in the law to allow special gun permits for Jews at risk.
	They're agreeing with him!
	They're agreeing with him, and of course Murdoch's a Jew, and he's agreeing with Carson as well.
	That's the crazy part.
	Is Murdoch a Jew?
	Yeah, I think so.
	I think he's Episcopalian.
	I thought he was a Jew.
	I don't know.
	I'm going to find out.
	Because I'm reading the Murdoch biography, and it doesn't come up in the conversation.
	Well, I could be wrong.
	I could be wrong.
	I'm not sure about that.
	I don't know why I thought that.
	Well, I could give you some guesses why you'd think that.
	Okay.
	Because he owns media?
	Because he owns media.
	The Jews own all the media.
	Wow.
	Except for the new agenda show.
	Hold on a second.
	Hold on a second.
	The show is now off the air.
	You're canceled.
	Canceled.
	You can't say that.
	I'm real.
	Religion.
	Christian.
	It says he has Jewish ancestors.
	Catholic.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	Alright.
	Then I'm wrong.
	Here is Jew or not Jew, Rupert Murdoch.
	Let's see.
	He was an Episcopalian, but his wife was Catholic, and so he now is put down.
	According to some out there, Rupert's great-great-grandmother, Carolyn Jemima Shearson, was Jewish.
	Okay.
	Well, that's quite a stretch.
	Alright.
	But the rabbi...
	Not Jewish.
	The rabbi, definitely Jewish.
	Yes, I would hope so.
	Definitely Jewish.
	But yeah, Carson got totally boned.
	Totally boned.
	That's exactly the best way to put it.
	And he fell right into it because he's not...
	I don't think the guy...
	I don't know.
	I'm not a big fan.
	I never was a big fan of his.
	I always thought he was a slow-talking dummy.
	Yeah.
	All right.
	He impresses the Republicans because he seems intellectual because he talks slow.
	And he's thoughtful.
	And, you know, he doesn't just blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
	He's not like Trump, that's for sure.
	But I'm not impressed.
	So Trump, just moving that along, and I actually picked up the magazine a couple of days ago when I was at the HEB, the HEB. Our local supermarket here in Texas.
	And it's Trump and his family.
	At home with the Trumps.
	The exclusive people.
	Interview people goes inside the opulent and never dull private world of Donald, wife Melania, and son Baron.
	And it's just a good looking family.
	A very good looking family.
	And I remember looking at the cover saying there's something strange about it.
	I can't quite figure it out.
	Um...
	And the story was okay.
	It was overly positive, I'd say.
	Now, you probably saw the Hispanic woman jump up and go crazy for Trump at his moment.
	I have the clip.
	It's worth listening to.
	Columbians for Trump.
	Okay.
	Because there's something else that happened in there that was interesting.
	Where are you from?
	I'm from Columbia!
	I'm Hispanic!
	And is this a setup?
	Did I ever meet you before?
	Huh?
	I'm Hispanic!
	And I vote for Mr.
	Trump!
	We love you.
	All the way to the White House!
	The White House!
	You're beautiful.
	Thank you.
	Thank you, sweetheart.
	Thank you.
	Be careful.
	Great.
	That's so great.
	Never met her before.
	She's amazing.
	You know, you missed the most important part.
	Okay.
	And this is right along with the media, the mainstream media, discrediting these candidates.
	And when I heard the second part of what happened there, which is the clip I have, the continuation, we fit beautifully together today, then I realized, oh, yes, of course.
	I just, this all started with a People magazine.
	So here's the story.
	So I love the story.
	They couldn't have been nicer.
	Nice story, right?
	Couldn't be nicer.
	But I don't know what happened.
	They played with my nose.
	I don't want touching.
	I don't want touching.
	So I'm looking.
	What he means is Photoshop or...
	Somebody Photoshopped the picture.
	That's what you were referring to.
	Yes.
	Yes.
	Now you'll tell me.
	How's my nose?
	They're fine, right?
	It's beautiful and perfect!
	Say this, please.
	I have a wart on the end of my nose.
	And I went back, I grabbed the People magazine.
	They have photoshopped him.
	It looks like he has the ugliest wart hanging off the side of his nose, John.
	And it's so obviously photoshopped.
	Bring up a picture right now.
	And I said...
	Holy crap.
	You see it?
	I said, oh my god.
	No, I haven't got it yet.
	I'm just thinking the whole thing is ridiculous.
	You can't do that.
	Oh, it's really...
	It's hideous to look at it.
	And I said...
	I said, oh my god, I don't have to look.
	It's terrible.
	But, that's okay.
	Because they meant it well.
	I think they wanted to make me look like Cary Grant.
	Do we remember Cary?
	And I've always wanted to look like Cary Grant.
	But anyway, you are beautiful.
	Will you make sure she...
	Alright, so he goes on.
	But take a look at the picture.
	Yeah, I gotta find it.
	He has...
	And he has a perfectly symmetrical nose, in general.
	A pretty good looking nose.
	But then you see they even put shadow in there to make it look like a big, ugly-ass wart hanging off the right side of his nose.
	And I don't know what the subliminal effects could be, but I certainly don't see any reason to make that Photoshop edit.
	Huh.
	Any luck finding the picture?
	Yeah, I got it.
	You see how hideous it looks?
	Yeah, it looks terrible.
	Well, how come you didn't notice that immediately?
	Who, me or him?
	You.
	I told you that when I picked it up, I said this...
	You saw something was amiss, but you didn't...
	No, I didn't, because I went straight into the story.
	So that means he did a really good job, is what I'm saying.
	Yeah.
	But it makes him look like an evil witch.
	Yeah.
	Good work, People Magazine, Time Warner.
	You can't trust anybody.
	CNN. Uh-huh.
	Yeah, CNN. Yeah, that's what it is.
	So, then we have...
	People Magazine owned by Time Warner?
	I think so, yeah.
	Ah, you know, they changed the ownership on this thing a couple times.
	Let me look it up.
	Well, you look it up.
	I'm going to play a little bit of Trump's continuing message, which is important.
	But I see all these young, strong men.
	And I'm saying, that's a strange migration, because they're all men.
	So then I said, I wonder why they're not fighting for their country, number one.
	And then you see what's going on in Germany, where they're having tremendous problems with what's happening with their women, with these people, and what's happening.
	You're seeing, you're reading the stories.
	I hate to even repeat what's going on.
	So now they want to talk about 200,000.
	I'm looking at all these men.
	We're going to bring them into our country.
	We know nothing about them.
	They're not documented.
	They can't give you papers.
	They don't know anything.
	We know nothing.
	This could be one of the great Trojan horses.
	This could make the Trojan horse look like peanuts.
	Okay?
	Now, is...
	Now, is that the case?
	Probably not.
	But the word probably is not acceptable.
	It's not acceptable.
	Probably not.
	It's probably not the case.
	But you know what?
	Why are we taking chances?
	We're going to spend billions of dollars over a 10-year period.
	They say it costs billions.
	And you know, I actually said to Juan, and I've said it very strongly, because if I'm president, and if I win, and I become president, they are going back.
	They're going back.
	This is Trump's continuing meme, specifically as it relates to Mexicans.
	He's also saying it here about the migrants, the asylum seekers, and possible ISIS terrorists.
	But Trump has started off the entire cycle with, we've got to send the Mexicans back.
	Undocumented, illegal.
	You gotta go back.
	These guys are in gangs.
	They're killing people.
	It's a huge mess.
	And everyone's laughing.
	And, oh, you horrible hater.
	You're a total piece of crap.
	You know, how can you say that about Mexicans?
	Well, witness, we go back to our little panel here with Comey and Jed Johnson.
	And they completely, 100% corroborate Donald Trump's message about illegal immigrants, in particular Mexicans.
	We talk about the threat from ISIS. It's spectacular.
	And we talk about a couple of dozen folks that are here that are major concerns that are here.
	That's Senator Lankford, by the way.
	We had over 10,000 deaths by heroin on the streets of the United States.
	Hotel rooms, houses, on the streets, homes, people quietly dying from heroin and from narco-terrorists moving into our borders and distributing this incredibly toxic substance across our nation.
	So whether it's heroin, whether it's cocaine, whether it's marijuana, whether it's methamphetamines, it's a very strategic move that's happening, and it's extremely aggressive and seems to be accelerating at a pace we haven't seen before.
	Now remember, Donald Trump said the Mexicans are bringing gang violence, drugs, everything into our country.
	It has to stop.
	We have to go after them.
	He said, the first people I'm sending back are the gang members, and now listen to what is happening right now.
	In many areas of certain types.
	We seem to have new locations that these drugs are coming from as well.
	So can you help me understand the coordinated strategy, not only dealing with ISIS and those threats on American soil, but the threats that are coming in from narco-terrorists around the world as well, both their distribution networks, the interdiction, and if we're dealing with new locations and new groups to bring it in.
	How are we coordinating that among the agencies to take that on?
	Senator, I can start from the enforcement perspective.
	Your description is completely accurate, and I actually worry that our country's not getting it the way you described it.
	Recently, the acting administrator of the DEA, who is a great leader, sent over his team to brief me on their current view of the threat, and it is breathtaking.
	Cocaine use has gone down since 2006.
	That's good news.
	All the rest is not just bad news.
	It's awful.
	And so the strategy from the enforcement perspective is try to disrupt the traffickers.
	Try to lock them up, both the kingpins in Mexico, which is where this is coming from.
	Oh, gee!
	And to disrupt the gangs and organized criminals they're using to distribute in the United States.
	The goal being to try to drive up the price, to be honest.
	What's happening...
	Hey, hold on a second.
	We'll have none of that, Comey.
	Heroin is so cheap and so pure that it's a tidal wave washing over children and killing them because they don't know how pure it is.
	Killing children.
	So that's the strategy from the law enforcement perspective.
	Drive up the cost by locking up as many of these people as we can.
	We seem to have supply coming from new areas as well.
	Are you seeing new players internationally that are trying to actually get supply to the United States?
	Interesting.
	Could it be from somewhere else, this epidemic that is washing over us?
	I mean, Mexico is obviously a very close neighbor.
	They're pushing all the way through North America, all the way to Canada.
	Are there other locations that you've seen on the horizon that you would say, this is a new region that we haven't dealt with as much, but they're trying to transport to the United States?
	Please tell me Donald Trump can't be right.
	Please tell me it's not just Mexico.
	Please, please, please.
	The big focus is Mexico, because what's happened is the Mexican traffickers have figured out that they can do better by, instead of bringing Colombian heroin, or heroin from some other place in the United States, and transport...
	Whoa, hold on a second.
	He said heroin from some other place in the United States?
	Would that be the poppies that we bring in from Afghanistan?
	They're cutting into our supply here?
	I don't know.
	We have to go after these Mexicans.
	Listen to this.
	Oh.
	...do better by, instead of bringing Colombian heroin or heroin from some other place in the United States and transport the United States, they're growing it in southern Mexico.
	They're growing the poppies.
	They're refining it themselves.
	So it's just a business.
	They just shortened their transportation routes.
	They've dropped their cost so they can sell it at a lower cost and a higher purity.
	And so it's that domination.
	And then the other piece, which is a plague in the West, is methamphetamine.
	They're making it in huge factories in Mexico.
	Again, they're not bringing it in from Colombia or any other place anymore.
	So the center, ground zero for this plague across the drugs is Mexico.
	Oh, Donald Trump is right.
	Well, he can be right all he wants.
	It's not going to help his cause.
	I know that, but still, he's right.
	I still sense that Carly Fiorina somehow...
	Is the one behind the slams because she's the only one who benefits if Carson gets kicked out of that race.
	Oh yeah.
	Oh yeah.
	And she's a bad actor.
	She doesn't have a prayer either.
	This is all Bush.
	Bush is going to be fun to watch how Bush goes from this hanging around and hanging around to winning.
	Yeah.
	And it's all because this system is corrupt.
	I have two more clips for the election cycle if you're interested.
	I don't know if you have anything.
	Not so much.
	Okay, here's a quick update on Hillary.
	New details in the Hillary Clinton email investigation.
	The AP, the Associated Press, reporting this morning that Clinton's private email server was the target of attempted cyberattacks from China, South Korea, and Germany.
	The attacks came after her time as Secretary of State and were apparently blocked by security software.
	But the report says there was a three-month period after Clinton left the administration when that protection wasn't installed, meaning the server was potentially vulnerable.
	Now, of course, it's been hacked big time.
	Well, I was also going to say that, you know, I run my own email server, and the potential attacks, yeah, you get them from China all the time.
	They're always probing ports.
	They're always, you know, trying to...
	If they knew that it was Hillary Clinton's, I think they'd put a little more effort into it.
	I'm not arguing that.
	I'm just saying that the report is specious at best by saying, oh, well, every email server is under attack all the time.
	All the time.
	It's always going on.
	So...
	All right.
	So today or yesterday, today I believe, is the big celebration that we missed out on.
	And I should be there myself, but I'm not.
	And the DPRK has their 50th anniversary party in Pyongyang or in the Kim Jong Il Square or wherever it is.
	It's like May Day thing that used to happen in Russia.
	I think they still do it.
	Now, there's two different reasons.
	A bunch of our people are going over this.
	The triple guys, CBS is sending a guy.
	He gave this report.
	This is CBS and DPRK. And this report is so slanted.
	And I want to comment on these two.
	I got two reports.
	One from the DPRK and one from China.
	I mean, sorry, one from, I said DPRK, I meant CBS....party.
	And that gave Seth Doan a rare opportunity to look inside the hermit kingdom.
	The trip is carefully choreographed.
	We board buses and are told where we're headed.
	North Korea gets media coverage for its upcoming military parade, and we get a glimpse inside this infamously secretive country.
	This stop, a look at the metro.
	With its conductors, chandeliers, and piped-in patriotic music.
	This is hardly just a casual stop at the subway.
	It is a deliberate effort to show us infrastructure at work.
	One of the things Kim Jong-un has said is that he wants to improve people's everyday life.
	The question is, is that really happening?
	Determining that is a tough task, with government-assigned minders who monitor our every move.
	How about this lady here?
	I think she doesn't like it too, man.
	But we haven't asked.
	Can we ask?
	The power of the government is clear.
	Many, including children, wear pins depicting former leaders.
	Why do you want to wear a pin?
	This is my heart.
	This is your heart.
	Do you wear that pin every day?
	This doesn't get off in even one hour.
	They have loosened some restrictions compared with our last trip about two years ago.
	For instance, now we're able to take video from the bus.
	However, when the bus driver made a wrong turn through a rather run-down residential neighborhood, there was a scramble, Scott, to get us out of there.
	Scramble!
	Because there's no such thing as a run-down neighborhood in St.
	Louis or Cleveland or Chicago.
	Or Austin!
	Or Austin, Texas or any place in the United States.
	There's no such thing.
	We don't have run-down neighborhoods.
	No.
	So they freak out when they drive the bus into the rundown.
	This report showed nothing, although it did show the cool metro station, which was very interesting.
	So we switch over to a longer report, and I hate to play the whole thing, but this is a concise report from the Chinese outfit.
	And they make a very interesting point, which is more or less a pat on the back to the No Agenda show by the time this is done.
	Vice President Li Yuanchao has attended the celebration activities held by the DPRK's embassy in Beijing.
	For more on the DPRK's celebration, we want to go live to our correspondent Tony Cheng, who's in Pyongyang now.
	Thanks for joining us there, Tony.
	What more can you tell us about the anniversary celebration there?
	Well, not an awful lot, frankly.
	Everything is being kept very much under wraps this evening.
	There have been signs all over the city of Pyongyang today that preparations are underway.
	We've seen large movements of people in processions coming in and large buses, one imagines, from outside.
	But we're still waiting to find out exactly what time we're going to be taking from our hotel to the procession tomorrow.
	We don't know if it's going to be in the morning or the afternoon at this stage.
	We think that's because of the weather.
	There's a very large thunderstorm which struck Pyongyang this evening.
	We're expecting more rain tonight and tomorrow morning, so the authorities may well be pushing it back slightly because of the weather.
	But as with many things here in the DPRK, things are generally kept under wraps.
	We are expecting, however, as you mentioned, a very large parade, mainly focused on a military parade.
	Again, we're going to be seeing the goose-stepping soldiers going through the center of Kim Jong-il Square, through the center of Pyongyang, followed by tanks, artillery, and possibly most interesting, those large missile carriers that we've seen in the past.
	And what's the moot there, Tony?
	What about a master perception of the event?
	Everyone's happy.
	I think everyone's very keen, obviously, that this goes very smoothly.
	Obviously, the DPRK is very famous for putting on these sorts of events, incredibly well coordinated, incredibly well planned.
	There's a certain level of excitement, too.
	And interestingly, what I've seen this time, which I haven't seen previously, is very large numbers of tourists coming in to witness these events.
	I think now that access is slightly easier to the DPRK than it has been in the past.
	Many people are keen to come from overseas to see this spectacle.
	So they're all getting rather excited.
	They're staying in the hotel that we're in as well.
	But I think, yeah, everyone, again, very keen that this goes smoothly.
	It will have been coordinated and highly orchestrated.
	So one would imagine there'll be very little left to chance.
	Ah, yes!
	That was the thesis that you brought in a long, long time ago, that North Korea wants to be a tourist destination.
	And I'll tell you this, when the CBS guy gave his snooty report...
	Right.
	He didn't mention that.
	And he was showing...
	No, of course he didn't mention that.
	And he's been there before, apparently.
	And when he was showing the street scenes and the subway, in particular, and people coming in and out, the people were dressed a lot more casually in western...
	The kind of clothes they wear in China, which is Western clothes, very casual clothes, not uniforms.
	And it was a colorful group.
	It looked a lot different than it did a couple of years ago or even when they were doing those shows that Vice Magazine was doing.
	Things are improving.
	This guy is not a slouch.
	Yeah, and they have that whole ski resort that they wanted to set up.
	Then I guess the Swiss wouldn't send them the new ski lifts.
	But you know, this boils down to one thing, John.
	It's very obvious what has to happen.
	Yes.
	I love Rondley.
	I love Rondley.
	He has to go to Korea.
	Yes.
	We need an I love laundry tour in Korea.
	We've got to get over there.
	With the Airstream.
	Yeah, I love Rondley.
	Get the Airstream over there.
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	Oh, yes.
	Oh, finally.
	Finally, finally, finally, we're going to find out, John.
	You know, we just sent another rocket up on Thursday, and that will deploy.
	It already has deployed a new amateur radio satellite, which is a lot of fun.
	That's my next on my bucket list, is to communicate via one of these satellites, these transponder satellites.
	Yeah, yeah.
	But there's another...
	So it's quite simple to put these CubeSats in orbit, and there's a group of kids, I think they're in Russia, and they have an idea which I wholeheartedly support.
	It's soon to be half a century since humanity made that proverbial giant leap to the moon.
	Well, that was then, back to the here and now.
	Decades on after that Apollo mission, a group of Russian space enthusiasts and engineers are embarking on a quest of their own.
	They're planning to send a microsatellite to the moon to get some real high-resolution footage of the remains of that American landing.
	Well, that's the theory, at least.
	Here's how they came up with the idea.
	As a blogger, I talk to lots of people on the internet about Cosmos, and I've noticed that it is a frequent topic.
	If the Americans flew to the moon or not, was the Apollo on the moon or not?
	All the points have already been made by both sides.
	Some believe they did not fly, others claim they did.
	And no one can actually convince each other.
	I was so bored with listening about the flag, the ground, the rockets.
	So I thought, guys, let's just fly there and have a look.
	We can argue forever.
	The moon hasn't gone anywhere.
	If the Americans have actually been on the moon, everything should still be there.
	Let's stop wasting time on the internet.
	We'd better collect money, build a satellite, and have a look ourselves.
	Researchers now then crowdfunding their project.
	Seems they've already gathered $15,000, which is supposedly enough to complete the project.
	Why?
	Well, because they say no booster rockets needed.
	That's usually the most expensive part.
	The engineers instead plan to tag their lightweight micro module onto a government-financed satellite.
	Yeah, these guys better not be jumping in any hot tubs out of celebration.
	That might not end well for them.
	Well, luckily they hit the spot where these guys have supposedly landed.
	I like the idea.
	This could end...
	It's a good idea.
	I think it's a gag.
	Why is it a gag?
	These satellites are launchable.
	Yeah, I just don't think.
	It just sounds like a hoax.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	Here's a little entremont.
	You heard this story.
	This is the CBS report on the Airbus patent.
	I don't think I heard this.
	This seems like a hoax, too, but it probably is a real patent.
	And maybe not such a good idea?
	Have a look at this.
	Airbus has filed for a patent for a split-level airliner cabin, two tiers of seats that lie flat like bunk beds.
	That's in business class.
	No telling how they're going to stack them up and coach.
	Okay.
	It's like that.
	Remember that thing they came up with where you're standing and then strapped in?
	Yeah.
	So you push a whole bunch of feet because it's all the leg rid of you because when you're seated it shows up too much space.
	I love it.
	Very good.
	So we had more testimony.
	I watch a lot of C-SPAN as you can tell.
	I do love doing that.
	Watch some C-SPAN and on the heels of new Manufacturers being implicated in cheating emissions testing.
	We now have added Mercedes, Honda, Mazda, and Mitsubishi, along with the Volkswagen group of companies who have cheated emissions.
	Once again, no American manufacturers in this list, which is...
	And I think it's also pointing out, since this is not getting as much publicity at all, As the Volkswagen thing that this may have been a hit job on Volkswagen and Germany.
	Volkswagen, US... Volkswagen and Germany.
	Volkswagen...
	This is big F Germany time.
	You know, the Germans are...
	They're full tilt.
	They are doing the second North Stream now with the Russians, which will bypass Poland.
	Screw you, Poland.
	You don't get any piece of that.
	But the Volkswagen CEO, Michael Horn, was up on the hill and he...
	He's the American CEO. He's the American CEO, yeah.
	He apologized.
	These events, and I fully agree on this, are deeply troubling.
	I did not think that something like this was possible at the Volkswagen Group.
	We have broken the trust of our customers, dealerships, employees, as well as the public and the regulators.
	And you've got to hand it to this guy.
	There's something beautiful about the German mentality, just saying, okay, we screwed up, we're not going to pussyfoot around, we did it, we're guilty, we're wrong.
	Let me be very clear, we at Volkswagen take full responsibility for our actions and we are working with all the relevant authorities in a cooperative way.
	After that study by West Virginia University, isn't it true that VW told the EPA and the California Board that the increased emissions were due to technical issues and unexpected in-use conditions?
	Yes.
	Yes.
	And those representations at that time were in fact incorrect and false, weren't they, sir?
	Yes.
	Yes, they were.
	Now, to your knowledge, did anybody at the Volkswagen Group of America know at that time that in fact those discrepancies were due to these defeat devices when they made those representations to the regulators?
	To my knowledge, at this point of time, no.
	No one in the U.S. did.
	No.
	But isn't it true that the technology was installed in the automobiles, at least initially, because the cars could not meet the new, more stringent admission standards for diesel engines?
	Yes, to your last question, this appears to be this way.
	This appears to be this way?
	Damn!
	All out, almost like a Japanese confession.
	I was waiting for a Harakiri moment.
	I was hoping he'd kill himself right in the spot.
	Instead...
	He blames it on the dude named Ben.
	This was a couple of software engineers who put this in for whatever reasons.
	Do you really believe...
	For whatever reasons.
	Listen to the follow-up question.
	This was a couple of software engineers who put this in for whatever reasons.
	Do you really believe as good, as well-run, as Volkswagen has always been recruited to be...
	That senior level corporate managers, administrators had no knowledge for years and years?
	I agree, it's very hard to believe.
	Yes.
	Yes, probably as well.
	Oh yes, the dude named Hans has done it.
	Dude named Hans.
	Dude named Hans.
	Hans did it, Hans.
	Hans and Franz did it.
	Hans and Franz, blame it on the engineers.
	Wow, that's pretty low.
	That's pretty low, man.
	I think Hans and...
	Why not?
	Blame it on them.
	Hans and Franz did it.
	They can always get work.
	Oh, here's another thing that's important for us.
	Yes.
	The FAA, and I follow this closely, of course, is late.
	They are now a couple months late in delivering their ruling on drones and how they can be used in airspace in the United States.
	And you have two categories, well, there's three categories of drones, but you have the under 55 pounds, over 55 pounds, and then I submit that there is the war machinery drones that are just aircraft, you know, just large-scale aircraft.
	And they have yet to deliver a ruling and meanwhile as a pilot I am all for some form of regulation but probably certification.
	You know, if you're flying in public airspace and you're flying these things around, you know, you should know how it works, how the rules of the road work, so to speak.
	And they've been talking about needing at least a sport pilot license certification.
	But they're late.
	They have not come to the table.
	They're dragging their feet.
	I'm not sure why.
	But, Congressman...
	I don't know why.
	Why?
	They can't afford it.
	Can't afford what?
	What they're going to have to do, which is licensing.
	That's an expensive proposition.
	No, but why is the FAA dragging their heels on coming up with this regulation?
	Because they know it's going to cost them, it's going to ruin their budget.
	It's not going to ruin their budget.
	No, they'll just get more budget.
	Somebody's budget.
	No.
	I don't know why they're dragging their heels, but Representative Micah, he's almost wishing, in fact, just listen to what he does here in this questioning.
	Oh.
	What?
	I missed this part.
	Hold on a second.
	Here we go.
	And the rule came out in February.
	So you've had February, March, April, May, June, July, August, September.
	We're just into October.
	So you've had eight months to finalize that rule.
	And now you're saying that...
	And the rule...
	Does the rule just deal with a small aircraft?
	Small UES under 55 pounds.
	Under 55 pounds.
	Because I think we allowed a differentiation between small and large.
	At least the testimony I've heard is sometime in 2016.
	Can you be more specific with sometime?
	So the comment period was open until April of this year.
	We've had over 4,500 comments.
	At the sometime in 2016.
	And we're adjudicating those comments.
	And our internal objective is to get the rule out of FAA by the end of this year.
	And it will go through the...
	We have a review process at DOT and OMB, and last time you and I discussed this...
	February, March, April?
	Yeah, get to it.
	Last time you and I discussed the point, we agreed on the date of June 17th, and I think that's still a solid date, and we should be able to beat that.
	So not till next June?
	It should be in the first half of next year.
	And what about large?
	So the development of large UAS integration is going to depend in large part on commercial demand and also in large part on technology.
	So that will develop as the technology develops and the demand develops.
	I think what that means is maybe they want to fold this into the next-gen system.
	So if the technology improves where the next-gen systems work, where drones can fly as a part of the system, I think that's what he means by the technology.
	Well, again, I'm disappointed.
	What will probably propel this, maybe actually propel your schedule, is going to be a very serious accident and incident.
	I can almost predict there will be one.
	There are just so many of these now flying.
	That it's almost inevitable that we have a drone hit an aircraft, and there will be probably injuries and hopefully not fatalities.
	It sounds like someone gave him a piece of paper that said, here's what we're playing.
	Hey, boss.
	Hey, boss.
	He does it again.
	Boss, boss, boss, boss.
	If we can have fatalities, maybe.
	And these drones are up to 55 pounds.
	I remember going to a testing center when they would throw like a 40-pound frozen bird or something into...
	Aircraft engine and I saw what that did.
	These can do as much damage and I don't need another test to show what would happen, but it probably will happen.
	Maybe that will speed things up.
	You've had how many incidents?
	This is a good question.
	How many incidents do you think have happened or happen on a regular basis, and of course they don't really define incidents, but incidents that involve aircraft, sighting drones, and at least calling out an emergency situation because of them?
	How many do you think?
	You're asking me?
	Yes, I'm asking you.
	A hundred.
	A hundred per what?
	So far.
	So far, okay.
	With drones that were somewhat serious, is it 200, 400?
	Captain Carroll, do you know?
	Do you want to revise your answer yet, John?
	No.
	100 total.
	I'm saying 100 total.
	The rest are bullcrap.
	FAA, do you know?
	FAA. FAA would have to know.
	They can't lie in droves.
	How many have you had reported?
	We're at a rate of about 100 a month of entire reports.
	100 a month.
	You didn't say a month.
	You said all time.
	I said a month.
	I said 100 a month.
	Oh!
	You liar!
	You did not say 100 a month, but okay.
	1,200 a year, and so far you've cited about 20, there's been about 20 enforcement actions.
	Did I hear that?
	That involve civil penalties, yes.
	That seems very low.
	Nice.
	A hundred a month.
	A hundred total.
	A month.
	Oh, a month.
	You thought that in your head.
	Okay.
	A month.
	Fine.
	Yes, I did.
	Yeah.
	That counts.
	A hundred a month.
	I'm against it.
	I am against it.
	It's like, oh, look, there's a drone over there.
	No, no, no, no, no, no.
	That's aircraft calling in a situation to air traffic control.
	That's what the hundred a month is.
	This sounds like a disaster waiting to happen.
	It is, John.
	I'm against the drones.
	Everyone's all horny about drones, but screw it.
	You should have some kind of certification.
	The airspace is not just for playing around.
	Yes, I agree.
	Okay.
	That was my point.
	One of these drones flying into a jet engine.
	No, especially not if you're on it.
	No.
	Especially, especially.
	A little update on the clock, kid?
	I didn't know there was an update on the clock.
	Well, you're right.
	There's not an update on the clock, kid.
	There's an update on the clock, kid's father.
	Ah, okay.
	Well, 14-year-old Ahmed Mohammed is still on his world tour, gaining recognition for his alleged scientific and engineering capabilities.
	World tour.
	World tour.
	After he was arrested.
	He's selling t-shirts.
	Yeah, NASA t-shirts.
	And suspended for bringing what some believe was a hoax bomb to school.
	We've learned Ahmed's father, Sudanese political activist Elhassan Mohammed, has two different Facebook pages.
	One is a personal page where he appears pro-America.
	When he was asked about ISIS threatening to kill police officers, he responded, quote, killing is not right and is prohibited in Islam.
	As Allah mentioned in the Quran, if you kill one person without rightness, it is as you are killing all mankind.
	But there's also an Arabic Facebook page for the National Reform Party, a political party started by El Hassan Muhammad, bearing a similar profile picture and address, only this webpage is much more We're active and the tone is very different, including a 14-minute conspiracy theory clip on the 9-11 terrorist attacks and a post that shows the smoking World Trade Towers, describing it as a U.S.-sponsored hoax to launch a world war against Islam and Muslims.
	We should note El Hassan Mohammed has repeatedly run for president of Sudan, despite living near Dallas.
	As for finding out more information about the clock that Ahmed says he built and how some believe he was targeted for his race and religion, the Irving School District says it has information that would shed new light on why he did it, but they can't release it because he's a minor and his family would have to sign off on it.
	The problem is the district sent the release form to the wrong lawyer.
	Oy!
	Yeah, yeah.
	There you go.
	So there's more to the story that we will not hear, unfortunately.
	Yes, of course.
	Now, why would we bother?
	So I got a little Chinese news.
	The Chinese, besides digging a hole through Thailand, so they can avoid the straits over there.
	Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi has met his Thai counterpart Dong Pramud Winai in Beijing.
	They say they agreed to accelerate a joint railway project.
	Take a listen.
	The China-Thailand Railway is the middle route of the Translation Railway Network.
	Laying the foundation and launching the China-Thailand Railway signal a breakthrough for the translation railway network that has been contemplated for years.
	It will not only benefit the long-term development of Thailand, but also enable Thailand to perform better as a transport hub in the region's interconnectivity.
	Pramud Winai said Thailand attaches great importance to rail cooperation with China and is ready to make joint efforts to promote an early start of the construction.
	He also voiced support for China's Belt and Road Initiative and agreed to promote bilateral cooperation within the framework in the spirit of openness and transparency.
	Mm-hmm.
	Yeah, those Chiners.
	They're doing it.
	Everyone's going with this transparency meme.
	Yeah, gee.
	It's out of control.
	Hey, have you seen the advertisements that are running pretty heavily now for the Amazon Echo Box, the Alexa?
	Yes.
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	If you were ever a guest on a podcast, I mean, it would be beautiful if you're a guest on a television show.
	Here's what we need you to do.
	Alexa, play the latest No Agenda episode.
	Now, she couldn't hear me because I'm in the studio.
	But that's what you need to do.
	And then this thing will just automatically start playing the latest No Agenda episode.
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	It'll work, believe me.
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	Although we're living in a dream world, if we think any of us...
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	But it's good to do.
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	I think the comments on the blogs...
	It's good.
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	I do them all the time.
	People will find me, and I don't do it as Mark Pugner.
	There's now apparently three Mark Pugners.
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	And he is in Shamsburg, Illinois.
	That's all I know.
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	And we have people that have been suggesting certain things that we do.
	In fact, we had a letter, and I don't know if you remember if it was the Mark Pugner or one of the Mark Pugners or somebody like him, who had a list of things that we should do to improve the show.
	And I think I should go over the list.
	Did it include you prepping more?
	No, curiously.
	Give us the list.
	The list was, one, get rid of all the jingles.
	Okay.
	Shorten the show to an hour.
	Stop retelling anecdotes.
	Okay.
	And change the banter between the two of us.
	Okay.
	What are you left with?
	Nothing.
	We have no show.
	An empty mp3 file.
	We have no show.
	Change the banter.
	If you don't like the show, don't send us these suggestions.
	Well, while we're on feedback, ever since we covered the VOG, VOG, UN VOG, The violence against women and girls at the United Nations with all the celebrities and then the two Gamer Gates social justice warriors.
	A message to everybody.
	Yes, you are right.
	This is all about social justice, about cultural Marxism, about how things are, you know, about bullying and hate speech.
	You're absolutely right.
	Please refrain from sending me emails of undetermined length.
	Pointing this out.
	There's something so fruity with this Gamergate thing, John, where we kind of ignored it in the beginning because people would send us these emails that's like War and Peace, the War and Peace report.
	And now they're doing the same thing.
	And here's the UN doing this, and this is because of it.
	We know!
	It's nothing new.
	You don't have to point it out.
	This is what the United Nations does.
	Please, I get it.
	I'm just filing him away for historical record.
	Yes, we know.
	This has been a long time coming.
	The Gamergate thing is something we didn't cover for a good reason.
	I got a positive clip here, or at least positive slant from me, from Megyn Kelly.
	Oh!
	Yes, Megyn Kelly.
	You're watching Fox again.
	No!
	No, no, no, no, no.
	She was on Charlie Rose.
	Oh.
	And you'll recall when...
	Did they talk about her sexuality?
	Tell me about the sexuality.
	It's in your DNA. That was the first question.
	You are correct.
	No, she was saying something that I totally agree with.
	It's on board with the social justice warrior bullcrap.
	But also, you'll recall that I defended Sarah Palin for a long time.
	I could not believe how seemingly intelligent women were just making her out to be a slut whore bitch.
	Yep.
	Completely the antithesis to what feminism is supposed to be about.
	And Megyn Kelly discussed this on Charlie Rose and I thought it was worth listening to.
	I see somebody like Gloria Steinem who, you're only a feminist in her world if you believe everything she believes.
	If you're in any way against abortion on demand all the way through the third trimester, you're not a feminist.
	If you don't stand for all of her principles, look at what she did and what many on the far left did in the feminist cause to somebody like Sarah Palin.
	But she's running for president.
	And where were they when they were asking Sarah Palin whether she could be both vice president and a mother to her children?
	No one asked that of Barack Obama.
	That was a sexist question.
	If that had ever been asked of Hillary when she was younger and raising Chelsea, now would have been up in arms about that.
	Steinem, the other, would have been marching on Washington to say, this has got to stop.
	Crickets when it happened to a conservative woman.
	And some actually came out and said, she's less of a woman than some men I know.
	I mean, they try to take your womanhood away from you if you don't walk in lockstep with their beliefs.
	That's what I mean by the feminism that I reject.
	Those feminists will be well-served to be a little more open-minded when it comes to left and right in this country so they could get more women into the fold.
	Now, this is an important tool for those of you who have Obama-bot listeners and crazy left-wing Republicans and right-wing or nutjobs, baby kill, you know, don't want to just gun kill everything.
	Go to noagenderplayer.com, find this segment, and you can send that link to your friends.
	Everyone has empathy at the moment for Megyn Kelly because of the Donald Trump fracas, a trumped-up fracas, to coin a phrase, and play that for them.
	Play that for them.
	No one's going to do that.
	I love your positivity.
	Might as well play the little phony baloney piece that was done on one of the 3x3s on Roseburg.
	And this is Obama in Roseburg.
	And there's a little thing in there.
	I have an ISO of it.
	Later, it was something Obama said, which never didn't make any sense if you listen to me.
	Now, this is the appearance that the...
	It was the editor or the publisher of the local newspaper said, we don't want the president here, and we're going to have the West...
	What was it?
	The West Baptist?
	What are they called?
	Yeah, the West Baptist, whatever they are, those guys.
	They never showed up that I know of.
	Selling their signs.
	The protesters gathered at the Roseburg Airport carried both signs and guns, a potential nightmare for the Secret Service.
	Alan Montgomery made no attempt to hide his holsters.
	Is part of your statement here the fact that, as I see it, you've got a couple of guns on you?
	Well, that's not necessarily a statement more than...
	I saw this.
	I saw this piece.
	And the guy who's asking that, he's such a dick.
	Yeah.
	Like, well, you got a couple of guns on you?
	Is that what you're trying to show?
	Secret Service.
	Alan Montgomery made no attempt to hide his holsters.
	Is part of your statement here the fact that, as I see it, you've got a couple of guns on you?
	Well, that's not necessarily a statement more than it is just my right.
	As the president's helicopter arrived, many showed their distaste for his call for more gun control.
	The White House has indicated the President is considering an executive order that would require more gun retailers to conduct background checks.
	In spite of the killings here, that remains an unpopular position in this part of Oregon.
	Sally Telford is a gun owner.
	Our Second Amendment says no infringement.
	That means no infringement.
	So anybody can have a gun?
	Yes.
	Somebody with mental problems?
	Yes, everybody can have a gun to defend themselves.
	So you can't just make us get a background check because somebody might have a mental problem.
	The president's moment of hate avoided the largest group of demonstrators on his way to Roseburg High School, where he met privately with families of all the victims of last week's shooting.
	We're going to have to come together as a country to see how we can prevent these issues from taking place.
	But today, it's about the families.
	He said that When it comes right down to it, there's a lot of different opinions in our country, but really, we're a lot more alike than we are different.
	The president's visit to Roseburg was largely confined to the safe, secure area in the local high school.
	And in spite of suggestions that demonstrators would try to block roads, Scott, his motorcade came and went without disruption.
	Okay.
	I saw this report.
	Westboro is the church.
	Westboro, yeah.
	Well, if you listen to what he says, listen to this thing that Obama said.
	This is the ISO of what he said.
	Just deconstruct what he said.
	I thought I heard him say something about rights.
	I couldn't quite hear it.
	No, issues.
	Okay, listen.
	We're going to have to come together as a country to see how we can prevent these issues from taking place.
	But today...
	From these issues from taking place?
	Yes, what did he say?
	He says he wants to prevent these issues from taking place.
	Huh, good catch.
	What does that mean?
	Yeah, well...
	We have to come together as a country to prevent these issues from taking place.
	What issues could be taking place?
	Well, it was a...
	I don't know.
	He's either talking about the gun rights advocates that were all over the place.
	It must have been on the back of his mind, and that's an issue.
	I do want to remind everybody...
	Shooting's not an issue.
	That's a minor issue.
	No, it's not an issue.
	It's an event.
	It's not an issue.
	It's an event.
	I don't know.
	I have no idea.
	These issues.
	It will unfold as it always does.
	We did get a letter from a local, Craig Weinberg, just came in this morning.
	And he said, David Jacks, the Beacon editor, is considered to be a local nut job.
	Oh, sure.
	By many people.
	All right.
	The Beacon's extremely small publication cropped up, tried to be a conservative news source to counter the News Review, which is the long-established mainstream newspaper.
	Well, that's good info.
	Good for us to know.
	That was the guy who was talking about the protests.
	Yeah.
	I do want to remind everyone of the exact text of the Second Amendment, particularly for those outside of the United States who do not understand the Bill of Rights and the amendments and the Constitution.
	Specifically, the Second Amendment reads, a well-regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, comma, The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.
	And this is critical, that is misunderstood, purposefully made to be misunderstood.
	The Second Amendment is not a gun right.
	It is a specific language that forbids the federal government from infringing upon a right which already existed.
	Call it God-given or whatever you want.
	But that is the text.
	That is the actual text of the amendment.
	Shall not be infringed.
	Yes, that's what that woman said.
	Infringed.
	Yeah, she said it's stupid, though.
	She's a stupid moron.
	Why is she a stupid moron?
	Why should we have to have background checks?
	Because they're crazy.
	That's not a good PR move.
	That's what they wanted.
	Yeah, they got that.
	They got that.
	Shall not be infringed.
	You want to play the refugee update?
	Yeah, and will that be the last for us?
	I think that can end with that.
	Migrant arrivals in the Greek islands have surged to at least 7,000 a day, trying to beat the onset of winter.
	More arrived on Lesbos today as the International Organization for Migration reported a sharp increase from September.
	Meanwhile, in Italy, the first wave of Eritrean refugees departed for Sweden as part of the European Union's new relocation plan.
	This relocation scheme is a really important step towards stabilizing the refugee crisis in Europe.
	It can only work if it takes place at the entry points of Europe, and it can only work if robust facilities are created above and beyond what we have in Italy.
	More than half a million migrants have fled to Europe so far this year.
	Unbelievable that the woman says refugees and then Woodruff comes back with migrants.
	Yeah.
	That's unbelievable.
	I don't know if that's a...
	I don't know why they're...
	I don't know.
	That's News Hour.
	What do you expect?
	It's like ISIS, ISIL, IS. It's all more of the same.
	Word games.
	There's big differences.
	There's no difference in definition for all practical purposes with ISIL and ISIS. There's a difference in definition between migrant and refugee.
	Yes.
	All right.
	Then I will play the final one from your state, John.
	You have a brand new bill there in California.
	Yeah.
	Jerry Brown.
	Moonbeam, Jerry?
	Yeah, Moonbeam.
	He signed the renewable electricity bill.
	Did you know this?
	Probably.
	California, through this bill, is taking a major step.
	Other people are going to follow.
	But it's not going to be easy.
	And it's not going to come overnight.
	There's no quick one thing you can do.
	This is going to be a long march to transition the entire modern world to a decarbonized future.
	Woo!
	It's big.
	It's important.
	Yeah.
	And we're doing it.
	And I did it.
	In California.
	I did it.
	In general, climate change is not news.
	Oh.
	It's happening too gradually.
	It's happening too diffusely.
	So anytime we can get focus on this existential threat, we have to do it.
	Because it's everywhere.
	And it's just difficult to mobilize the political will.
	When something bad happens, we can respond.
	The trouble with climate change, it's a bad happening rather slowly.
	And if we don't get it in time, it'll be very difficult to turn back.
	It's a bad happening very slowly, John.
	It's a bad happening very slowly, is what it is.
	I'm going to put pictures of the...
	Grasslands.
	Do you want to do a little update for us before we leave?
	What's happening in the greenland right now?
	Hold on, hold on, hold on.
	We'll have to be redrawn.
	This is what would happen to San Francisco Bay.
	Look out your window, baby!
	John C. Dvorak, give us an update.
	The tide's in.
	Then the mud flats are covered with water.
	Look at your window.
	Watch your window.
	Thank you.
	And I'll wrap it all up nicely coming back to your San Francisco 2.0 at the beginning of the show, John.
	Today in the New York Times, we seem to have a huge issue with all the battery cars out there in San Francisco.
	People are getting into shouting matches and fights at the charging stations.
	Yeah, because they're using the charging stations.
	One of the reasons is you've got one of these battery cars, you drive it to the charging station, which is one of five, let's say, five parking spots left in the parking lot because everybody's in the city.
	And you stick the charger in, and then you walk and you go to work, and eight hours later the cars, you haven't moved the car, you're maybe not even charging it for all you know.
	It's a fiasco.
	Yeah, and what's happening is people are unplugging other people's cars.
	They're rolling up, just unplugging it and plugging in their own.
	Yeah.
	That is the friendly voice of people who want to save the world by gypping their fellow human beings.
	Yeah.
	Somebody will be like you buy a three-hour charge.
	Yeah.
	And somebody else comes along, pulls the charge out, sticks it in their car, and they get three hours of charging while you're stupidly going to the store expecting to have something when you get back.
	So bottom line, eventually, everyone who has one of these battery cars becomes an asshole.
	That's what's going to happen.
	It's going to be one big...
	Yeah, right.
	A-holes.
	Unbelievable.
	You unplug my car, man.
	Hey, buddy, what do you think you're doing?
	Well, your car's done charging.
	God, I can just see it.
	Oh yeah.
	That's going to be great.
	Hipsters.
	Yeah.
	Alrighty.
	I'm okay.
	Should I be watching any football today?
	The Sunday Night Football, the 49ers, I like to watch because they're so bad.
	It's kind of fun to kind of like chuckle, chortle, to watch them fail.
	All right.
	Watching it, the owner's in one of these A-holes, and everybody's an A-hole, and so it's a good team to watch lose.
	Okay.
	Sounds like fun.
	It is.
	Well, if you like, yeah, because you can't go wrong.
	All righty.
	Please remember us at Dvorak.org slash NA. We need all the help we can get for Thursday's program.
	We'll be back with more deconstruction for you of the media and, of course, of the first Democratic debate on CNN. We'll probably be one of the few watching the whole thing.
	And that's on Tuesday, I believe.
	That's right, Tuesday.
	Until then, coming to you from downtown Austin here in the Crackpot Condo.
	In the morning, everybody, my name is Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley, I'm John C. Dvorak by the mudflats.
	We'll be back Thursday right here.
	On no agenda.
	Everyone's crazy about a dude named Ben.
	Tell me about the sexuality itself.
	It's in your DNA. I'm Joe Biden and thank you for taking the time to listen.
	And wash your hands after touching any raw meat.
	www.fema.org.au I'm remote controlled.
	I do what I'm told by someone at a computer.
	Obama gave me a push, more than Bush, and I cost millions.
	I'm supposed to target terrorists, but not so much civilians.
	I don't know what to say.
	Whoops, some got in my way.
	A drone again.
	Naturally.
	A drone again.
	Naturally.
	Oh my gosh!
	Can you see that juice?
	I'm a little harsh, but we gotta live with it.
	There are rules in the world, so you kinda have to follow them.
	I'm a rule follower, so the rule is that we have to do that, and then I'll do it again.

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