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	Everything would not even be an issue if we'd all go vegan.
	Adam Curry, John C. Devorak.
	It's Thursday, April 9, 2015.
	Time for your Gitmo Nation Media Assassination Episode 7-1-1.
	This is No Agenda.
	From power blips to cyber glitches, we cut through all the bull crap.
	Broadcasting live from the Crackpot condo in downtown Austin Tayhouse, FEMA Region 6 in the morning, everybody.
	I'm Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley, where I don't know what he said, I'm John C. DeVore.
	It's Crackpot and Buzzkill.
	Come on!
	Just because you've stumbled, don't blame it on me.
	From power blips to cyber glitches.
	Oh, is that what you said?
	Mm-hmm.
	Yeah, we had cyber glitches.
	This is how our...
	Oh, it was good when the power grid went down?
	Yeah, in D.C. Which is something we didn't talk about.
	It happened after our show.
	Well, that's what I said.
	Yeah.
	I didn't say we could have talked about it.
	You said we didn't talk about it.
	We didn't talk about it.
	Yeah, it was kind of funny, actually.
	It was cute.
	Marie Harf was sitting there doing the briefing with her iPhone flashlight.
	There wasn't anything clippable that was funny enough.
	Yeah, sure.
	So I get these notifications.
	I keep my phone off and I turn it on.
	I know.
	Your choice goes like this.
	Here's the phone.
	It's downstairs.
	And I say, well, it's getting low.
	The battery's getting low.
	I could walk upstairs and stick it in the charger.
	Or?
	Or I could just turn it off.
	That's what I do.
	I turn it off.
	So I turn it off.
	I figure out when I walk upstairs, you know, maybe I'll bring it up.
	Maybe I won't.
	And then Mimi's 12 hours later.
	Why weren't you answering your phone?
	And what we end up with is you turn the phone back on and you get...
	What a bunch of stuff.
	Oh, right.
	You need to upgrade notifications for your Android apps.
	Yeah.
	And so I'm going through these Android apps that supposedly need upgrades.
	Yeah.
	And let me ask this.
	Maintenance.
	It's all maintenance.
	There's something BuzzKill Jr.
	is always complaining about.
	I said, well, why does any of this stuff need maintenance?
	It's not like a rickety old Ford engine.
	Well, you know, I was an app developer for a while and had an app, The Big App Show.
	Which I created myself.
	I don't want it to sound too technical because I used a lot of frameworks, which made it pretty easy.
	But every single time, particularly if you're doing anything with audio or video, video is the worst.
	Or really, I think anything that utilizes the phone's screen, which is pretty much everything.
	Whenever there's a new software release from Apple, certainly if there's a new device with a new screen, everybody has to go and update their apps.
	It's ludicrous.
	Well, here's my favorite.
	So I get, you need to, you know, you should upgrade.
	I refuse to upgrade.
	It still works fine, by the way.
	You should upgrade your flashlight app.
	Why?
	So we can spy on you.
	What does a flashlight app need upgrading ever?
	It's just, it turns on the light and that's that.
	I mean, how difficult, what does it need fixing?
	I don't know.
	That's a good question.
	Well, if you have, if there are new devices, whatever new phone came out, which I'm sure you heard that in tech news, There's an S69 Swazzle something.
	So that has to...
	I'm sure that has different calls for the flashlight, you know, for the flash.
	It's ridiculous.
	The whole app...
	We're recreating what we took decades to do with the web and finally got some things kind of agreed to.
	This brings to mind another question.
	Okay.
	Since all these guys are so into maintaining, following everything you do, watching you closely, tracking you with tracking cookies and doing this and doing that.
	Yeah.
	Why don't they have the database there at home base saying, oh, this guy's got an old Android Galaxy.
	He doesn't need upgrading because he's got no new screen.
	He doesn't have an S6. He doesn't have anything.
	So why are they pestering me to upgrade when they must know?
	This brings up another interesting point as we slide into big data.
	I don't have an answer for you, of course.
	Of course not.
	I got an email from Daniel Mackey.
	And sent along a screenshot from Amazon.
	Daniel was shopping on Amazon.
	And here's the recommendation.
	Daniel was buying Pot Shards, Uncle Don's book, off of Amazon.
	And here it comes.
	Pot Shards is...
	I'm sorry, but I actually blew the joke.
	Pot Shards is recommended because you purchased ECU's Magnificent Ranch Hand Spray Lubricant 11-ounce.
	I blew the joke, but apparently Daniel was searching for your lubricant, your ranch hand lubricant, and Pot Charge is recommended.
	So this tells us a little bit about how sophisticated all this big data is.
	Here's how it goes.
	Skip logic.
	Who else ordered this lubricant?
	Okay?
	Now, offer them...
	Ooh!
	Other people who ordered this lubricant have ordered pot shards.
	Offer this person pot shards.
	That's about...
	That's the most sophisticated I've seen it.
	Yeah, they found, well, I don't know how well the lubricant sells on Amazon.
	They do have it.
	Well enough to make recommendations, apparently.
	And so they, yeah, they went and saw the lubricant and they looked through this and said, what other five people bought this stuff?
	One, for that matter.
	Two of them bought a copy of Pot Shards for some reason.
	It must have something to do with gardening and the lubricant comes in.
	How about our show, amigo?
	It's people who listen to our show who have both items.
	Yes, I know.
	We are now an Amazon skip logic rule.
	They do not make that connection.
	Well, not the no agenda part, probably.
	I may have thrown an ad.
	Amen.
	Fist bump.
	I missed it.
	It doesn't matter.
	Well, I may not have.
	It's possible.
	I'm plus one on the fist bump call out.
	And, um, just staying with big data, mine as well, because you're actually taking me right into my first topic.
	But first, woohoo!
	Another, uh, this was in Forbes, I believe.
	Headline, Uber, the big data company.
	Yeah, I know.
	So what Uber is doing, apparently, is they've hooked up with, I think, Marriott?
	Starwood.
	You can put in your Starwood Preferred Guest account.
	And then these guys, if you say, and of course the small print is what you overlook.
	Yeah.
	But in the small print, they say, we can give your data to Starwood under any circumstance, any type of data, including where you were, how long your trip was, how much you paid for it, what car, all of this stuff.
	Which to an outfit like Starwood, I think, would probably be valuable.
	Maybe.
	Yeah.
	You know, the funny thing is that these guys, most of these companies, these large companies like that who are always wanting this stuff are, for all practical purposes, hoarders.
	It may not be useful at all.
	In fact, I question whether it is.
	Hoarders.
	They're hoarders.
	Data hoarders, I tell you.
	Yeah, data hoarders.
	What are you doing with all that data?
	Oh, we can't tell you.
	It's top secret.
	So Waze, I didn't know this.
	Well, of course you could know Waze, which Google bought, which is the kind of social network, which works quite well.
	Not if you're driving alone.
	I don't know.
	I've received nothing.
	Oh, you're driving along and this thing's popping up everywhere.
	Well, don't do this.
	Don't do that.
	Acknowledge.
	I'm driving.
	It's been a while since you used it, I think.
	Well, that's the reason.
	You almost get into a wreck every time you think.
	But when you think about it, I've given up on driving within a certain radius within Austin, mainly because of the sirens you hear here, especially if there's any alcohol involved.
	You do not want to get pulled over in Austin for sure, but in Texas, having had one drink, you do not want this.
	Just about everybody I know has spent at least one night in jail, and a lot of my friends have to start their car by blowing into a tube.
	This is not something I'm looking forward to.
	But they know so much.
	When you went out, where you went.
	Oh, Curry went to the Yellow Rose again.
	The Yellow Rose of Texas.
	It's one of the better ones.
	It's in Austin?
	It's a bar?
	Kind of.
	What do you mean kind of?
	With strippers.
	Oh, it's a stripper joint?
	Yeah.
	Oh, you pool dancers?
	Yeah.
	Huh.
	Yeah.
	Let me check this out.
	Yellow Rose.
	Austin.
	In fact, I think we have a report live from the Yellow Rose of Texas.
	Straight from Reseda, here she is, braving.
	Give it up.
	I found out that I know a little bit more about my neighbors here in the building.
	Because they're showing up at the Yellow Rose Men's Cabaret on Lamar Boulevard.
	That's where I'm meeting all my neighbors.
	So I have an ER doctor here across the hall who likes to, when he's home, he cooks up bacon and sausage and eggs with his door open.
	I live in a ghetto building.
	I'm in a ghetto building, probably.
	But then the woman next to him, also across the hall, check this name out.
	Stephanie Colorado.
	Oh, wow.
	What a great name.
	This is Stripper.
	Webcam.
	Hello.
	Hey, everybody.
	I'm Stephanie Colorado.
	How you doing?
	Love that.
	You know, they don't have them looking at their website, and I don't see any of the girls.
	A lot of them like to list them and show them.
	No, no, no, no, no, no.
	Oh, wait, wait, here we go.
	No, this is employment opportunities entertainers wanted.
	Accepting applications for entertainers who meet the following criteria.
	In great shape.
	Uh-oh.
	Take pride in your appearance.
	So this brings me to a real topic.
	And I got a lot of email and pushback, I would say, and fairly so, about something we talked about in the last show, namely alcoholism.
	And I said, well, this is a sickness, an illness, a disease.
	And we went back and forth for two seconds, like, oh, whatever, fine.
	Yeah, sounds like it.
	So many people, this is bullcrap.
	This is not a disease.
	And, of course, it wasn't listed as a disease or an illness years ago until, of course, the DSM, the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, and we're up to number five now, added it for insurance purposes.
	And I've done some research on this with some of the medical professionals here in the Austin area.
	So it was purely added.
	Disease or not, the actual medical science, I can't weigh in on that, but I can tell you that it is considered a disease by DSM. And DSM-5 has some very...
	I just pulled up the latest substance use disorder fact sheet.
	You know me.
	Wednesday night, got nothing better to do.
	Let me bring up my...
	My World Health Organization and CDC documentation.
	See what you're missing out on.
	Yeah, you never know.
	So there are some changes which are interesting in relation to this, and this brings me to a bigger big data topic.
	First of all, substance use disorder in DSM-5 combines the DSM-4 categories of substance abuse and substance dependence into a single disorder measured on a continuum from mild to severe.
	Added to the list, drug craving.
	They're not even using, but craving drugs is now a disorder.
	Craving is a disorder?
	Craving a drug.
	I thought it was like a physiological construct based on the way bodies work.
	Well, 97% of scientists disagree with you.
	Addictive disorders now also includes gambling disorder.
	So this will be covered on your insurance.
	And this falls under a new category of behavioral addictions, which includes internet gaming disorder.
	This is great.
	Internet gaming disorder, that's a good one.
	Does it include visiting the Yellow Rose three times a week?
	Four.
	At this time...
	Conditioned criteria at this time, this is critical, at this time, condition criteria do not include general use of the internet, gambling, or social media.
	But note the at this time.
	Oh yeah, they gotta put Facebook addiction on this thing.
	Well, it's included in section 3 of the manual, which is drawn up specifically to encourage further research on the impact of general use of the internet, which can be an addiction.
	I'm sorry, an addictive disorder.
	I would think so.
	Social media and coffee.
	Caffeine will also be added to the...
	Caffeine?
	Isn't that great?
	So from this, I learned...
	You know, I eat a chocolate bonbon every day.
	Oh, you're screwed up.
	I learned about a big data project, which is, as we speak, being implemented worldwide, known as the ICD-10.
	I'm pretty sure we've never discussed it.
	I don't think I've ever heard of it.
	Have you ever heard of this ICD-10?
	No, but I'm going to now.
	Of course.
	ICD-10 is obviously the follow-up to ICD-9.
	This is the 10th revision of the International Statistical Classification of Diseases and Related Health Problems.
	Which is a medical classification list by the World Health Organization, and of course it contains codes for diseases, signs and symptoms, abnormal findings, complaints, social circumstances, and external causes of injury or disease.
	As opposed to the ICD-9, ICD-10, it's almost like IPv6 versus IPv4 on the internet.
	Massive difference.
	Yes.
	Now, this...
	And these are, of course, what we also will call often the billing codes.
	$14,400.
	Car mechanics have these.
	It says Volvo muffler replacement.
	One hour at this price.
	White male prostate removal.
	Exactly.
	I don't know if it lists specifically how much it costs, but these codes can now be expanded to over 16,000 codes by using optional subclassifications.
	This is a big deal, this changeover, although pretty much not publicized at all.
	When you look deeper into it, you start to understand why.
	There's a compliance deadline set for October 1st of 2015.
	And this is what Health and Human Services put out for the United States.
	It's a huge problem for smaller practices, which are pretty much the Affordable Care Act and other choices we have made as a peoples here in the United States of Gitmo Nation is leading to small practices being pushed out of the medical professional together.
	Oh yeah, the big giant corporate machine, you know, like a...
	These HMOs, you go in.
	It's like Kaiser.
	Kaiser set the stage for this.
	Precisely.
	Precisely.
	You go in there and you take a number and you get a random doctor who doesn't care.
	Well, some of them do.
	And sometimes you can actually request the same guy over and over.
	But it's not like getting some guy that's like your neighborhood doctor.
	No.
	Actually, when I was younger, I had Kaiser for years, and I even worked at a Kaiser place, which gave me free Kaiser, which continued for some reason.
	And I didn't really mind it that much.
	It wasn't that bad, but it wasn't as cozy as a real doctor.
	Not that they're not real.
	In a report from the AMA, they found that small practices can expect to spend anywhere between $56,639 to $226,105 just to become compliant because it really is a huge dude named Ben project.
	It's a big IT project.
	And you can imagine the databases, it's almost like Y2K, really, when you think about it, except you're going to get penalized if you don't adhere to it.
	So looking at, now, here's the deal with this ICD-10.
	This is what your medical, your digital health profile is going to be.
	Okay?
	This is going to travel with you.
	You said okay.
	Amen.
	Fist bump.
	I should have said right.
	Right.
	No.
	Sorry.
	This is going to travel with you wherever you go in the world of being an international standard.
	But the ICD-10 really goes incredibly far.
	Here are some of the blocks...
	As they call it.
	Blocks of codes.
	And we can dive deeper into anyone you want.
	I've selected one.
	So this will be certain infectious, parasitic diseases, neoplasms, disease of the blood, blood-forming organs.
	This is all kind of normal.
	Nutritional, metabolic diseases.
	Mental and behavioral disorders.
	This is not going to be on record and shuttled around, and when you go to your doctor and you say, hey, if we have to send this to somebody, like the government, you have to let us do that, although HIPAA has some rules forbidding that, this is pretty much just going to be out there.
	Diseases of skin, pregnancy, childbirth, certain conditions originating in the perinatal period.
	I like this.
	External causes of morbidity and mortality.
	Vehicle and traffic injuries will be on your record.
	Unintentional falls.
	Striking against or struck by sports equipment.
	or pinched in between objects, contact with lifting, contact with sharp glass, contact with knife, sword, or dagger, contact with non-powered hand tool, rifle, shotgun, larger firearm discharge, which may mean you just discharged it, And then discharged from other and unspecified firearms.
	Then we have gunshot wounds.
	Exposure to noise.
	Exposure to vibration.
	Here's the one I'm worried about.
	Foreign body entering into or through the natural orifice.
	Can you imagine?
	Richard Gere, man.
	He gave this on his record.
	Well, that would include all forms of normal sex.
	Foreign.
	Let's see.
	Foreign body.
	Well, let's see the definition of a foreign body.
	Hold on.
	Foreign body, or sometimes known as FB, is an object originating outside the body.
	Okay.
	You're right.
	Sex.
	So sex is a disorder?
	No, I'm a little bit beyond the disorder.
	This is all the things that will now be on your record that were previously not documented.
	So what, like going into a priest for a confessional when you go to your doctor?
	So how many times did you have sex as a foreign object with your husband's penis?
	It's not yours, so it's his.
	It's foreign, it's foreign.
	How many times it's foreign, and he's also from Mexico, so that's something.
	And boom-da-boom, they write it down?
	How did you shoot a gun this week?
	And boom, yeah, I shot a gun.
	If a medical professional will have to document this.
	So this all comes down to how crazy you are, of course.
	That's why it folds into all this DSM stuff.
	So intentional self-harm.
	There's codes for self-poisoning and exposure to non-opioid analgesics.
	What about pinching yourself?
	Well, it's probably on here.
	It's probably on here.
	Self-poisoning exposure to drugs, unspecified drugs, self-poisoning by alcohol.
	So if you're an alcoholic, that's in there.
	What if you just had a shot of vodka?
	Yeah, if you self-poisoned.
	Oh, that's probably a disorder.
	Intentional self-harm by handgun drowning.
	Drowning yourself is harsh, man.
	Hanging.
	Intentional self-harm by explosive material, smoke, fire, flame, steam, hot vapors, hot objects.
	Who tries to kill themselves or self-harm with steam?
	Sharp objects.
	Intentional self-harm by blunt objects.
	It gets crazy.
	Intentional self-harm by jumping from a high place.
	Jumping or lying before moving objects, crashing of motor vehicle, and then unspecified means, etc.
	Everything you do, if a medical professional sees you for whatever ails you, these things are going to be documented very specifically, no longer just, well, he came in at a broken arm.
	No, no, no, no.
	And I believe that this is the kind of stuff that you really don't want in any digital form, seeing as we can't keep anything safe.
	Well, I'm disturbed by the whole thing.
	My doctor, you know, this is a couple years ago.
	I've talked about it on the show before.
	He's bitching about how they've changed it.
	Because of the law, they have to do everything electronically now.
	So he has a laptop of some sort, and he has to take it.
	A Chromebook.
	No, it was actually some off-brand.
	Anyway, he takes all his notes and all the paper records have to be scanned in.
	So what was private paper records that are really owned by the patient, which people don't realize, you own your medical records.
	Not that anybody cares about this anymore.
	Now it's just an electronic form, which is like you said.
	There's no safe place for electronic forms, for all these protection of, oh, protecting my medical records is bogus.
	There's no way you can protect any of this stuff.
	They're hacking left and right, you know, whoever they are, the Ukrainians, the Russians, the Chinese, the North Koreans, the kids on the...
	Well, well, since you bring it up, since you bring it up, We might as well go to our little F Russia segment.
	That hack that took place at the State Department, which was publicized at the time, was actually done by hackers working for the Russian government.
	That's a great classification.
	Beer is actually done by...
	Hackers working for the Russian government.
	Boy, Wolf Blitzer knows a lot, doesn't he?
	He's got some good inside info.
	Where do you get that information?
	State Department.
	To the White House computer system as well.
	What can you tell us about that?
	This is Ben Rhodes, who is the national security advisor to President Obama.
	Well, Wolf, first of all, I'm not going to get into details about our cybersecurity efforts.
	Of course not.
	What I can say, though, Wolf, is, as you said, we were public about the fact that we were dealing with cyber intrusions, and the State Department was public about that.
	But the fact of the matter is, we have different systems here at the White House.
	So we have an unclassified system, and then we have a classified system, a top-secret system.
	That is where the sensitive national security information is, the classified information is.
	That was a secure system.
	So we do not believe that our classified systems were compromised.
	We do not believe.
	Nice, isn't it?
	We do not believe.
	He doesn't know?
	Yeah, no.
	Doesn't he know?
	Yeah, no.
	Yeah, no.
	Amen.
	Fist bump.
	No, he doesn't know.
	He does not believe.
	...systems were compromised.
	I will tell you, Wolf, as a general matter, we're constantly updating our security precautions on our unclassified system, but frankly, we're also told to act as if...
	Now, hold on a second and listen very closely.
	This, I believe, is a setup, and I'm going to tell you what it is.
	We need to not put information that is sensitive on that system.
	So in other words, if you're going to do something that is classified, you have to do it on one email system, on one phone system.
	And frankly, you have to act as if information could be compromised if it's not on the classified system.
	Okay.
	Now, so this is a hack that I believe they're talking about something that happened in the State Department months ago at this point, probably six or seven weeks ago.
	Now there is some unspecified something or other going around saying, oh, well, they got into the White House unclassified system.
	It's very important through the State Department system.
	If that's true, I don't know.
	It's a setup.
	And this is Mike Flynn.
	This is we've heard from him before.
	This is the former DIA Defense Intelligence Agency chief, Lieutenant General Michael Flynn, the guy who was kicked out.
	Remember this guy, right?
	Oh yeah.
	He's all over the place, by the way.
	And I got a note from one of our very trusted military sources, who of course his job is to handle me, so take it with that grain of salt.
	Adam, I know Mike very well.
	I'll be seeing him at the end of this month, so we'll be able to get some deeper info.
	The reason why he was kicked out is he wanted more spooks on the ground to get intel for the DIA. Obama's NSA and National Security Advisors thought otherwise.
	Guess who was the deputy at the NSA at the time?
	John Brennan.
	Both Petraeus and Flynn wanted more spooks on the ground to gather more intel, but Obama's team thought otherwise.
	So with that background in mind, and I would say he's probably going to be...
	If he's politically active, I would think, based upon what he is saying here about...
	Hillary Clinton's emails, I would say he's more in the red right camp.
	As a military officer, if I said I was doing something for convenience sake to the soldiers that I was leading, and it was solely for my convenience instead of their welfare, I should be relieved of duty.
	I would expect to be fired.
	You know, it's one of those things, if it doesn't feel good, it probably isn't.
	And this one doesn't feel good to me.
	What do you think the odds are that the Chinese, the Russians, hacked into that server and her email account?
	Very high.
	Very high.
	Really?
	Yep.
	They're very good at it.
	Those two countries, you know, China, Russia, Iran.
	They're good.
	Potentially the North Koreans.
	I mean, these are countries and other countries who may be, you know, quote-unquote, our allies because they can.
	She says the server was always at the house and under, you know, protection by the Secret Service, at least a physical server.
	I mean, do you have any questions about who is actually maintaining that server?
	I think we all ought to be asking that question.
	I mean, if it's government, if the Blackberry's government and she did everything, I mean, everything that a person in that level of responsibility touches who's in the government, everything belongs to the government for the most part.
	I mean, if you're using a government device to do personal things, I mean...
	I just think that that's what you do, and you accept that, and if somebody's doing things, if somebody's sending you stupid things, you tell them to stop.
	This is a setup, John.
	This is a setup to show that Russian and Chinese hackers, they can get into the White House, they clearly got into Hillary's email, and there's a huge security breach of epic proportions, and she should be thrown in the brig!
	There are four things I want the public to know.
	First, I thought it would be easier during my four years as Secretary of State.
	Obviously, it hasn't worked out that way.
	Second, I opted for convenience, and I think most people understand that.
	Third, no one wants their yoga routines made public.
	And fourth, what difference at this point does it make?
	Hugh Allison.
	Got me.
	Little remix before the show.
	What difference does it make?
	What difference at this point does it make?
	You can put that at the end of everything she says.
	Yeah.
	I think so.
	Just the what difference at this point does that make?
	Well, there's no doubt that they're trying to stop her.
	I mean, they're going all out.
	I think she's already stopped, to be honest about it, and I have to believe that the Democrats will have someone else running in her place.
	I think.
	I mean, and the Republicans, I don't care what they say, what they like to believe, they have nobody.
	And they had...
	I could have made some clips because I listened to all the Rand Paul crap.
	Oh, I got so bored of listening to him.
	Oh, he's terrible.
	But he was good at getting into beefs with some of the anchors.
	Megyn Kelly and him were yelling at each other, more or less, even though they said, oh, we weren't yelling.
	And...
	You know, he doesn't...
	I don't know.
	He's just...
	I think he's...
	He's a drip.
	He is a drip.
	And he's got that funny voice the way he talks.
	It's like, what accent is that?
	Yeah.
	Well, talking about that kind of thing, I do want to go into a little thing on vocal fry.
	Because I finally put my little bit together on this.
	Okay.
	Now, vocal fry is a way of talking that's become an epidemic.
	It's 75% of college women do it now.
	And the best way to describe it and the clip I've got here that I want to start with is Faith Sally.
	There's a bunch of people online that talk about this, but I think Faith, and I had to cut out a lot of her examples Because it's a little too long, but now it's still too long, but it's not bad.
	She talks about this issue of vocal fry, which we first identified.
	We didn't know what it was called.
	It's also called gutturalization or something.
	Gutturalization.
	Yeah, that's it.
	And the first person that we identified on the show that had it to an extreme was Jill Abramson.
	Yes, former executive editor of the New York Times.
	And we heard her when she took the position, and every time she comes on, you have a clip of her.
	I think you found something, one of their older clips.
	Yeah, this was an interview that Katie Couric did with her when she was just at Yahoo when she got fired.
	Then it has some prime examples of her.
	Um, I was given an indication of why and, you know, publicly.
	But how do you not, an indication, I'm just curious.
	I mean, if someone is terminating you and saying you no longer have a job, don't they have to sort of tell you specifically or not?
	You know, I was told some specifics, but basically mainly what I was told.
	And it is completely the privilege of the publisher of the New York Times.
	We all serve at his pleasure to make a change.
	And mainly he told me he decided to make a change.
	Change.
	Change.
	Let's listen to the explanation from Faith Sally about the phenomenon.
	America's young women are running out of oxygen.
	What else could explain why so many of them sound like this?
	Believe it or not, there's a scientific term for the way a Kardashian speaks, and it's vocal fry.
	It's a low, creaky vibration produced by a fluttering of the vocal cords.
	Speech pathologists call it a disorder that verges on vocal abuse.
	Call it a quirk, a trend, or an epidemic.
	Vocal fry is everywhere.
	A recent study of women in college found that two-thirds of them used this glottalization.
	When I was a tween in the early 80s, the valley girl was born.
	She brought us like and uptalk.
	And there's been, like, a general cultural agreement that, like, that kind of speech leaves the user sounding air-heady.
	She's good.
	And unprofessional.
	Right there.
	Stop, stop, stop.
	She's good.
	Just a little bit.
	When she says the word unprofessional, tell me that this is not, she doesn't sound identical to Rachel Maddow.
	The Valley Girl was born.
	She brought us like and uptalk.
	And there's been, like, a general cultural agreement that, like, that kind of speech leaves the user sounding air-heady and unprofessional.
	Yeah.
	Am I right?
	Amen.
	I'll give that one to you, yeah.
	All right, yeah, let her finish.
	But vocal fry is unique because researchers have found that women who talk this way are seen by their peers as educated, urban-oriented, and upwardly mobile.
	You love him, and he totally complimented you.
	Complimented you.
	Some linguists even suggest that creaky young ladies are evolving our culture as linguistic innovators.
	Well, metaphorically, I encourage every woman to find her voice.
	I'm dismayed at how low it can go.
	I'm burned out on the fry.
	It sounds underwhelmed and disengaged.
	It's annoying to listen to a young woman who sounds world-weary and exactly like her 14 best friends.
	Yeah.
	Now, to me, it sounds like a Kardashian.
	It doesn't make anyone sound intelligent to me.
	It sounds like a lot of people I know.
	Well, it's being picked up left and right.
	It's like an unstoppable situation.
	In fact, even this woman, as she gave talk normally once in a while, kind of dropped into a very mild version of it.
	And there was a whole special on NBC about this.
	Now, let's listen to it.
	But the favorite, my favorite, and by the way, I think that idea that this upper class stems from that Connecticut thing.
	You know, you're in Connecticut and you're, Daphne, can you bring the croquet racket?
	Here's where I hear it in Austin.
	Wendy Davis.
	I heard she was catheterized when she did her filibuster.
	She's so awesome.
	Yeah.
	In that context is where you hear it in Austin.
	Okay.
	Well, let's play.
	I consider her the master of this, and I have a bunch of short clips, but there's one long one here.
	Play Jill.
	Again, this is Jill Averson.
	And the Fry.
	And the Fry.
	Okay.
	New place.
	This is the old place in many ways, which is what distinguishes the Times as quality journalism.
	And we do that in print, in the print newspaper, and we do it in innovative ways digitally by the hour.
	We deepen stories by bringing readers into the conversation.
	You enliven a story and add new dimensions to it.
	And, you know, I've been very invested in our digital work.
	And, you know, we used to talk at the Times, you know, even Arthur would use the phrase, we have to be ready for our digital future.
	Well, it's not the digital future, it's the digital present.
	Let me ask you a question.
	You did not edit that at all, did you?
	Nope, that was not edited.
	People in the chat room say, oh, you edited this, you made it sound worse.
	Now, here's a couple of the words I pulled out from that particular little talk.
	That was with Charlie Rose.
	And I want you to play just a short.
	This is the word, first hour.
	Okay.
	Hour.
	It sounds like she's in pain.
	Play it without stepping all over it.
	I'm sorry.
	I had to laugh.
	It was very funny.
	Here we go.
	Our.
	This is right from the talk.
	Okay.
	Work.
	Okay.
	Uh-huh.
	Nice.
	All right.
	Now she goes on.
	Now I've got her on a different, she's on a different show.
	And again, this was a speech she gave in New York with, what's the name of the guy who's used to, he's with the New Yorker.
	I'll think of his name in a minute.
	Yeah, I actually had him on my show, Silicon Spin, once.
	Anyway, it was an hour and a half of her talking.
	And one of my favorite words is front runner when she throws this one out.
	It looked like she was the frontrunner.
	In fact, the prohibitive frontrunner.
	All right.
	In the morning.
	You got me!
	I could have known it was coming.
	Well, the first frontrunner was legit.
	The second one I did stretch.
	Finally, there's one little one.
	Incredibly curious is kind of interesting.
	You know, I'm just incredibly curious.
	Curious.
	No wonder she got...
	Who could put up with this?
	Yeah.
	Well, anyway, if you hear people that talk like this...
	We need to say something.
	We need to have a comeback.
	They need to be called out.
	Yeah.
	You don't need a sort of linguistic anomaly coming out.
	We're going to be click talkers or something before all of a sudden...
	And this is a Kardashian thing.
	It first started showing up in the public domain in 2011.
	If you start doing some research on it, they started talking about it then.
	It's just gotten worse and worse.
	As it is.
	I don't know if there's anything...
	That's my little thinking machine to know about vocal fry!
	That's right.
	I don't know if we can combat that.
	What we need is we need a shock for vocal fry.
	We have other disorders.
	I'm shocked, shocked to find Tourette's is going on in here.
	Yes, we got that and we don't have a vocal fry.
	I'm sure we'll have it before the end of the show.
	Let's hope not.
	In California, there is an executive order that came out.
	Executive Order B-29-15, Executive Department State of the People's Republic of California.
	I'm sure you didn't read it even though you lived there.
	Right.
	This is Jerry Brown, your governor, and he was on the C-SPANs explaining to some interesting detail about this executive order, the power of his executive order.
	This relates to water and water usage.
	Oh, yeah.
	No, this was covered in the news.
	Amen.
	Fist bump.
	Yeah, it was covered in the news, but I have the executive order here.
	And I have him explaining in one minute.
	Explaining.
	Explaining.
	Do you think this will be a real wake-up call?
	It is a wake-up call, and it should be for everyone, because this executive order...
	It sounds like he's just got up.
	He doesn't sound too good, does he?
	...under emergency power, and it has the force of law.
	Very unusual.
	Ah, emergency power, John.
	This is what caught my ear.
	Very unusual, the governor himself says.
	Power!
	He's got power!
	And it's requiring action and changes in behavior from the Oregon border all the way to the Mexican border.
	It affects lawns, it affects people's How long they stay in the shower?
	How businesses use water?
	Hello?
	How long you stay in the shower, slave?
	And how do you really enforce this?
	Yeah, that's always a good question.
	How are we going to enforce how long people stand under the shower?
	Each water district that actually delivers water to homes and businesses...
	They carry it out.
	We have a state water board that oversees the relationship with all these local districts.
	There are hundreds of them.
	And so, if they don't comply, people can be fined $500 a day.
	The districts can go to court and get a cease and desist order.
	The enforcement mechanism is powerful.
	In a drought of this magnitude, you have to change that behavior and you have to change it substantially.
	Now, the timing of this executive order is, of course, interesting on the heels of the bogus news report that NASA said, "We only have one year left of water in California." And even though this was not true, even though NASA said, "Oh, that's not what we said, that's not true," now we have all of these laws, in effect, that will apparently determine how long you can take a shower.
	And this very, very powerful...
	Yeah.
	Very, very powerful...
	Get out!
	Yeah.
	So do you want to just read through the It Is Hereby Ordered That?
	Well, I think you're anxious to.
	I am.
	I'll listen.
	There's a lot of whereas, whereas, you know, whereas we're all going to die.
	Save water.
	State Water Resources Control Board shall impose restrictions to achieve a statewide 25% reduction in potable urban water usage through February 28th of 2016.
	So this is how long this is going to be in effect.
	The department shall lead a statewide initiative in partnership with local agencies to collectively replace 50 million square feet of lawns and ornamental turf with drought-tolerant landscapes.
	So if you have ornamental turf or a lawn, you are going to be provided funding by the department to allow for lawn replacement Oh, I like that.
	I don't have a lawn.
	Maybe I do it in the backyard if you call the weed patch a lawn.
	I'll call it that.
	I guess if I mowed it, it'll be able to.
	It's a start.
	Yeah, yeah.
	The California Energy Commission, jointly with the department and the Water Board, shall implement a time-limited statewide appliance rebate program.
	There's money there.
	The Water Board shall prohibit irrigation with potable water of ornamental turf.
	That is confusing to me.
	Why?
	Does that mean that you cannot irrigate your lawn if it's an ornamental turf?
	It means you can irrigate it, but it has to be gray water or some other.
	It can't be potable.
	It can't be drinkable.
	Well, anything that comes out of your hose is drinkable, isn't it?
	Currently.
	The water board shall prohibit irrigation with potable water outside of newly constructed homes.
	Here's what you could do.
	You take your hose water, throw a couple cups of dirt in a bucket, hose the bucket, fill it up with dirty water, and then use that.
	Okay.
	You try that.
	The homes and buildings will have to have drip or micro-spray systems for irrigation.
	Well, that should have been implemented anyway.
	The Water Board shall direct urban water suppliers to develop rate structures and other pricing mechanisms, including but not limited to surcharges, fees, and penalties to maximize water conservation consistent with statewide water restrictions.
	That means you're going to be paying more.
	Doesn't seem to bother you.
	There's very little I can do about it.
	Every time something happens, they make us pay more.
	When we all of a sudden are in the flooding stages of the cycle, which goes up and down in California, they never lower the prices.
	Oh, we've got too much water.
	Let's lower the prices so people use more.
	No, that never happens.
	And here it is.
	The California Energy Commission, jointly with the Department of the Water Board, shall implement a Water Energy Technology...
	That's an acronym, John.
	Water Energy Technology WET. The WET program.
	Woo!
	Somebody did a high-five over that, didn't they?
	I got an idea, man.
	Let's call this WET. Yeah.
	I shall implement the WET program to deploy innovative water management technologies for businesses, residents, industries, and agriculture.
	This program will achieve water and energy savings and greenhouse gas reductions by accelerated use of cutting-edge technologies such as renewable energy power desalination, integrated on-site reuse systems, water use monitoring software.
	This is your smart meter, amigo.
	Squirrel!
	Your smart meter is going to tell them how long you've been in the shower.
	And in order to just make you completely nuts, the department is directed to enter into agreements with landowners for the purposes of planning and installing of the emergency drought barriers in 2015 to the extent necessary to accommodate access to barrier locations, land side and water side construction.
	One of those deals where some water meter guy is going to make a mint And I'd say that I started looking for investments in desalinization technology.
	Well, before we get to that, so the department is directed to enter into agreements with landowners.
	Where the department is unable to reach an agreement with landowners, the department may exercise full authority of government code section 8572.
	And, of course, for your edification, I looked up The government code, section 8572, you can almost guess what it is.
	In the exercise of the emergency powers hereby vested in him during a state of war emergency or state of emergency, the governor is authorized to commandeer or utilize any private property or personnel deemed by him necessary in carrying out the responsibilities hereby vested in him as chief executive.
	Eminent domain.
	Yeah, they've abused eminent domain in California already to an extreme.
	I'm reminded of this guy down the street.
	There was a little corner lot that was on one of the blocks, and they were going to redo a bunch of crazy stuff to the freeway nearby.
	And apparently they were going to bring it off some sort of a ramp or something.
	So they condemned this guy's apartment building.
	It was like a six-unit thing.
	It was okay looking.
	But they were condemning it, and they said, you've got to sell it to us at some ridiculous price.
	It was probably not market value at the time.
	And he spray-painted all these protest things all over the building.
	Yeah.
	They tore it down anyway.
	And then, so the lot now, and this is 10 years ago, the lot to this day is still there.
	Oh, of course.
	Remains vacant.
	Nothing done.
	Of course.
	They never did anything.
	They just took his property and then now we have an empty lot.
	The president came out, and I'm parsing through his whole...
	He came out, all right.
	I'm parsing through his whole...
	That was a while ago.
	Yeah.
	Through his whole speech, and I'll have it on, maybe some bits on Sunday.
	But he talked about climate change, and there's a new fact sheet.
	Again, this is all for Sunday.
	It came out too late for me to really get into it.
	Well, you know, I have to protest this report.
	Why?
	I have something to play.
	Oh, well, play that and then I'll protest it afterwards.
	Are you going to protest my report?
	Yes.
	Well, here are the three morning news programs.
	They all got to interview the president in the same setting, which is kind of funny.
	We see him all sitting in the same set and he put him one after another.
	specifically about his mention of the asthma cases going up in the United States because of, I guess, climate change greenhouse gases.
	He is now equating carbon dioxide, which is already being called carbon pollution, to the reasons for asthma, which I think scientifically may be kind of difficult to prove.
	Oh, crap!
	Yes, thank you.
	What do you say to the people who deny that climate change is real and that it is impacting our health?
	Yeah, the good news is that the number of climate deniers is shrinking rapidly.
	I love that!
	They're shrinking?
	What, you know, they're getting old and they're not as tall as they were when they were teenagers?
	The number of climate deniers is shrinking.
	Climate change is real!
	It's real!
	And that was the Today Show.
	Here is Good Morning America.
	And asthma is something your family has experienced.
	Do you worry that the environment, the climate has impacted on your own daughter?
	This guy will do anything.
	My daughter's sick from the climate change, everybody.
	Here's CBS this morning.
	You have two daughters who are teenagers.
	Are you thinking long-term because of them?
	Is that somehow part of the equation?
	Again, with the daughters.
	Now, if you want to berate me on this report before I play my kicker from the United Nations, please go now.
	No, you kick it in with nothing, and I'm going to tell you why this is all unimportant.
	Okay.
	This is executive secretary of the United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change, i.e. the IPCC boss, or she's above the IPCC, I think, Christina Figueres.
	You know this lady with the bad haircut?
	Yeah.
	And she has a solution.
	Okay.
	A related issue is fertility rates and population.
	A lot of people in energy and environmental circles don't want to go near that because it's politically charged.
	It's not their issue.
	But isn't it true that stopping the rise in population would be one of the biggest levers in driving the rise of greenhouse gases?
	Never let up!
	I mean, we all know we expect $9 billion, right, by 2050.
	So, yes, obviously less people would exert less pressure on the natural resources, and that's just mad.
	So is $9 billion a foregone conclusion that's like baked in, done, no way to change that?
	Well, there again, there's pressure in the system to go toward that.
	We can definitely change those, right?
	We can definitely change those numbers.
	And we really should make every effort to change the numbers because we are already today.
	We should make every effort.
	Now, listen to what she's saying.
	Every effort to change those numbers.
	That means anything's on the table, including population reduction.
	Already exceeding the planetary carrying capacity.
	I love planetary.
	John, planetary carrying capacity.
	Write it down.
	This is a beaut.
	Today, to say nothing of adding more population that is going to really overextend our capacity.
	So, yes, we should do everything possible.
	Just by curtailing population, then we've solved the problem.
	Woo!
	Woo!
	Yeah, everybody!
	Kill people!
	Kill them, I say!
	Kill, kill, kill!
	Bomb them.
	We need to kill and bomb them.
	Bomb them.
	We need to bomb them.
	We need to kill them and bomb them again.
	Kill the people.
	Well, we're doing a job.
	We're doing our part.
	We are.
	Brown people.
	Well, in the sand.
	And black people.
	We're killing black people, shooting them in the back.
	Rebelizing.
	Oh yeah, you shoot the guys running around.
	That's one, you know.
	Did you want to say something about this report?
	Yeah, it's all bullcrap, because this would be the whole climate change, water issue, everything.
	Everything.
	Would not even be an issue if we'd all go vegan.
	Yeah.
	And by the way, a lot of this is a part of the movie that's coming out, the hot documentary, everyone's going to love seeing this, called Cowspiracy.
	Oh my goodness.
	And here's some evidence.
	Now, you know, this whole thing about, oh, those showers, the eight-minute shower takes up 17 gallons of gas.
	Gasoline, yeah.
	A fluoride, a fluoride.
	Listen to the water clip with Skip Anderson.
	I found out that one quarter pound hamburger requires over 660 gallons of water to produce.
	Here I've been taking these short showers trying to save water, and to find out just eating one hamburger is the equivalent of showering two entire months.
	So much attention is given to lowering our home water use, yet domestic water use is only 5% of what is consumed in the U.S. versus 55% for animal agriculture.
	That's because it takes upwards of 2,500 gallons of water to produce one pound of beef.
	I went on the government's Department of Water Resources, Save Our Water campaign, where it outlines behavior changes to help conserve our water, like using low-flow shower heads, efficient toilets, water-saving appliances, and fixed leaky faucets and sprinkler heads, but nothing about animal agriculture.
	When I added up all the government's recommendations, I was saving 47 gallons a day.
	But still, that's not even close to the 660 gallons of water for just one burger.
	What happened to peeing in the shower?
	I've been doing that for years now based upon the recommendation of saving water.
	It's all bullcrap.
	It's the burgers.
	If you stopped eating burgers...
	How about Kentucky Fried Chicken?
	Same thing.
	Anything that involves animals, that's what's killing us.
	We have to stop eating meat.
	There you go.
	So that whole thing that you ran, that was just a complete waste of time.
	Futile.
	It was futile waste of time because if you had just turned vegan.
	Everything would be solved.
	Yes.
	And they had charts.
	Charts.
	Then these charts showed that if you were vegan, you would not have an issue.
	And I don't know how they derive 606, but they asked a little couple of questions on this was democracy now, obviously.
	They asked a couple of mild questions, they don't want to pound anybody, about how do you get the 660 gallons of water to make one burger, because it doesn't seem to be that big.
	And they couldn't really answer, well, you know, the water that it takes to make the alfalfa, and then the amount of water it takes to supply the gasoline, to get the trucks to move the alfalfa to the cow, and on and on and on, and somehow it gets to 660 gallons per burger.
	Now, if that's true, this whole thing by Pat Brown is just crazy!
	Let me get the numbers right.
	660 gallons per burger?
	Per burger.
	Per 660 gallons of water per burger.
	Yes.
	If you do not eat one burger, then you have saved 660 gallons of water.
	Science!
	Science!
	You're good to go.
	You should send notes to the water districts and say this is bull crap.
	I'm cutting back on my burgers.
	I'm cutting back on two burgers a year.
	And I'm good for 1,200 gallons.
	How does it work that a burger...
	What does a burger cost?
	Like $1.50?
	For a Big Mac thing?
	And you get a burger for a dollar, maybe two bucks, max.
	So how much water do you use in a month there at the Buzzkill Bunker?
	I don't know.
	I never...
	My water bill, I don't know how many gallons I use, but...
	The gallons you have on your bill, do you have a bill handy?
	No, no, I don't.
	Well, check it out and see what it is.
	I'll bet you you can buy the burger formula.
	You can make up for all the water you use just by cutting out burgers.
	Dvorak's burger formula.
	Hold on, right in the jar.
	Dvorak's burger formula based on scientific fact.
	Fact and science!
	Science!
	Science!
	The science is in!
	And with that, I want to thank you for your courage and say, in the morning to you, John C., where the C stands for Cowspiracy Dvorak.
	And in the morning to you, Adam Curry.
	In the morning, all ships and sea, boots on the ground, feet in the air, subs in the water, and all the dames and knights out there.
	And in the morning, everybody in the chat room, noagendastream.com.
	Good to see you all there.
	I've been hanging out and saying in the morning to us, in the morning to our artists.
	I neglected to thank Martin JJ for his work on episode 709-er, but he also came in for episode 710 with his outstanding artwork.
	He's good, that guy.
	Noagendaartgenerator.com is where you can see all the submissions.
	It's a very important part of...
	And if you're an artist, it doesn't mean you can get in right away, but if you're an artist, we would love to see what you have in mind.
	Yes.
	And this was the NA Double Action MSM Stainfighter art, based on your biz.
	The biz discussion.
	The recommendation of biz as a cleaning product.
	Getting a lot of email about biz.
	There's nothing...
	It's really on sale at Kroger.
	There's nothing sweeter than hearing a guy, a middle-aged guy, talk about how soft his towels are and how nice they smell.
	Yeah, that's beautiful.
	That's the kind of show that nobody else can manage to do.
	And you know what?
	I got a couple of emails, people saying, if you're not getting paid for that stuff, you should.
	And I said, you really misunderstand the entire point of our program.
	When we endorse a product because we're not paid, you can know for sure this is a genuine endorsement.
	Yeah.
	We use something.
	We...
	Obviously like it or don't like it.
	It doesn't make any difference.
	Nobody's telling us what to do.
	It can be a negative endorsement.
	We don't have some guy calling up saying, Hey!
	Back off on Procter& Gamble.
	We're having a problem with the fast-moving consumer goods sector.
	And the packaged goods.
	Oh yeah, been there.
	Everybody has.
	On this program, and the reason why we can do all of this is, of course, because this is a program where the listeners are not the product that we're selling to advertisers.
	No, no.
	We are making it for you and making it by you, and you help us with information, with expertise, and, of course, your financial contributions.
	I'm very, very analogous to Hollywood.
	We like to thank the executive producers and the associate executive producers of each program right up front for their really keeping the show on the air.
	Yes, and then we read their notes.
	We do.
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	The jokes write themselves here.
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	Shocked!
	Shocked I am to find that John Fletcher's screaming in here.
	You've got karma.
	He'll have a Fletcher Fest coming up.
	Hold on.
	Matt Bosch.
	Yeah, Matt Bosch.
	And these are all Fletcher Fest donations.
	This one and the next two.
	He's the shape-shifting half-Jew from Columbia, Maryland.
	I started listening to the show about four years ago after hearing John's many plugs as a guest on Twit.
	I'm a little groggy today.
	I assumed No Agenda would be another tech show similar to Cranky Geeks and decided to listen.
	Initially, I was not interested in what I was hearing.
	As I was getting ready to delete No Agenda from my podcast app, Adam played the douchebag jingle.
	And I could not stop laughing.
	As a musician, I am continuously amazed at the talent of the producers who create these jingles.
	When you are offered a Fletcher shout-out donation level, I could not resist.
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	You're not trying hard enough.
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	I'd also like to request a shape-shifting Jew song.
	Also, Obama, Porky Pig, and any Leo Laporte clips of your choice.
	Ha ha!
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	I hope to compose a jingle of my own someday.
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	And he thinks you should go back on Tom Merritt's show.
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	Roll on, roll on for the magical safety.
	Step right this way.
	Roll up, roll up in the shapeshifting Jews.
	Amen.
	It's just fine.
	Roll up, the magical shapeshifting Jews.
	Roll up, it's an illustration.
	The magical shapeshifting Jews.
	Roll up, it's just an egregation.
	How well would this jingle go over on the mainstream NPR shows, huh?
	That's how we roll.
	I'm shocked.
	Shot.
	Karma.
	There we go.
	Alright.
	Onward.
	It probably wouldn't fly.
	No.
	But they wouldn't get...
	Even with the context.
	No.
	And we don't even...
	What was the context?
	The context was one...
	Some bonehead on CNN or someplace else was doing an evaluation of something in the Middle East.
	Oh, yes.
	Yes.
	And mentioned that...
	Well, on the street, if you're in one of those Uber cabs, they tell you that it's a shape-shifting...
	I think I have it here.
	I have it here, actually.
	I have it here.
	No, that's not it.
	No, I don't have it here.
	Sorry.
	Yes.
	Okay, onward.
	Sir John Kilburn in Houston, Texas, 31415.
	My 31415 Fletcherfest donation.
	Dear Fletcher, please scream Kilburn for me.
	Thanks.
	That would be amazing.
	Oh my God!
	There's even vocal fry in that.
	Amazing!
	Yeah, no, that is an example of...
	That's got to be the hardest thing on your throat.
	Yeah, I know.
	So Chris Spears, I got to...
	Yeah, this is getting on my nerves.
	Now Mimi and I are...
	She says it all the time, too, and so we're calling each other out.
	She's doing it just to irk you.
	No, no.
	No, I can tell.
	And we do it...
	So we're calling each other...
	Everybody in the household is calling each other out for this thing.
	It's still difficult to break.
	I know.
	Very difficult.
	Mm-hmm.
	And I don't know if it's even, I think it may be even worse than so.
	There was a whole, that was a tough one for us.
	There was a whole article in, hmm, hold on a second, I have it here.
	It was in The New Yorker.
	And no, when no is meant as yes, as part of yes, no, or no, yes, it's a contronym.
	So there's a term for it.
	Yeah, I love the rationales that people have come up for this.
	Stupidity.
	Well, the rationale the New Yorker comes up with is that these contronyms pop up all the time, such as, that's sick, or that's, she's a badass.
	What, street?
	Argot?
	Mm-hmm.
	Oh, please.
	Nonsense!
	Nonsense!
	Okay.
	So Chris Spears in Austin, Texas, came in with 23456, one of my favorite donations.
	In the morning, Adam and John, I hope this small bit of value finds you well.
	As always, the show remains an outstanding product.
	Yes.
	In exchange, I would only ask to hear Lord Dvorak's call for obedience.
	And thank you for your courage.
	You will obey.
	You've got karma.
	There you go.
	And finally, semi-anonymous Ashley has come aboard, $200, and she sent a note in, and I just have to assume that she just wants to be known as Ashley as opposed to her entire name.
	ITM, the two of my favorite guys...
	Happy belated birthday to you, John.
	I'm so sorry that this donation won't make it in time for your actual birthday.
	I bought your card a while ago.
	Actually, I'm pretty sure she bought this a long while ago because the crease between the card, if you just touch it, you've got two cards.
	So it's been sitting around.
	I bought your card a while ago, but I was knocked down this past week with a nasty cold.
	I didn't want to just send my cash without writing you a note.
	Your show has meant so much to me, and though I can't thank you both enough for all you do, no agenda, really brought me out of a depression.
	Oh, wow.
	I have something.
	I've forced myself, I think, maybe, or fooled myself.
	I don't know.
	Fooled myself.
	What?
	Maybe I fooled myself.
	It's after mom passed away last April.
	You guys have been my consistent and constant companion since I started listening in October of last year after repeated attempts by my husband, Chris, to hit me in the mouth.
	Now I take you guys everywhere.
	I especially like listening when I do yoga.
	Oh, wow!
	I love all of your deconstructions.
	You both always make me laugh and you keep me sane.
	In this insane world.
	I hope that John had a wonderful birthday.
	Thank you all for all you guys do.
	I really appreciate it.
	Love, Ashley.
	And did she send a photo?
	I hope you like the card.
	She had a funny card, yes?
	Did she send a photo?
	No, no, she just sent the card.
	It's a card of some wine drinkers and it's very cute.
	It's like a Don Martin cartoon if people know who that is.
	I'm going to give her a little bit of karma.
	Yes, please.
	And a little jingle for her.
	If you wake up with the blues, trying to feel your day with There's one thing you must remember.
	No agenda in the morning.
	For a healthy, balanced news diet, try NoAgendaShow.com.
	You've got karma.
	There we go.
	I want to thank all our executive and associate executive producers for show 7-11.
	Lucky show 7-11.
	Which nobody seemed to get in on.
	Too quick.
	And it reminds you that we have a show coming up in just a couple days.
	Yep.
	Well, I guess I will no longer deconstruct the president's speech on climate change.
	Thank you.
	Just gave me a whole two hours off.
	I wish I could do something for myself.
	And you won't have a problem.
	Two PR notes.
	Who knew it was that simple?
	I just stopped the burgers.
	660 a gallon.
	660 gallons per burger.
	Yeah, horrible.
	In the morning, says Sir Ramsey Cain.
	You know him from No Agenda CD, NoAgendaCD.com.
	The keep on trucking promotion didn't really take off.
	This was his idea of boxes of CDs, No Agenda CDs, specifically for truckers.
	I have a shitload of NACDs hanging out in my office.
	The main problem is I haven't made it clear to people this is at no cost to them.
	The only taker I had asked me to quote him on a price of a box of CDs.
	No, no, no.
	That was the giveaway.
	People think this costs money.
	No, this is provided free.
	By Ramsey's boss, actually.
	By Ramsey's boss and the company.
	And you will get as many of these if you can convince him that you can drop them off and it doesn't take much.
	For the Uber.
	Get them.
	Just get them.
	They're free.
	Yes.
	I put together a page for the No Agenda box.
	Check it out.
	And if you promote it on the show, please stress that it's free!
	All I ask is that people hand out the CDs.
	What email do they send?
	I'm sorry?
	Do you have an address?
	Email something?
	Noagendacd.com.
	That's all the info is there.
	Noagendacd.com.
	Then Sir AJ Reistat checked in.
	This is going exactly as I hoped it would.
	We have push bullet, push over the bat signal on...
	The Pocket No Agenda app, which I think is still not really working at this moment in time.
	However, there are now two, I think they call them recipes, for IFTTT. If This Then That.
	Are you familiar with this product?
	I do, actually.
	I am.
	I mean, yes.
	And you can get an app for your iPhone or Android thing.
	Andy's created two recipes, one for each platform.
	And hopefully this now works.
	That you then can get the bat signal through the IFTTT app.
	Which is good.
	Because one of these days, there's going to be something really important.
	And you're going to be in the loop.
	With like an emergency broadcast or something.
	We should make a tape of that.
	A tape of what?
	The emergency broadcast.
	Yeah.
	I don't think so.
	We'll be thanking all of our other producers who came in at $50 or above later on in the program.
	Thank you to our executive and associate executive producers.
	These are indeed real credits.
	Unlike the phonies in Hollywood, we're happy to vouch for you if necessary.
	Please go to...
	And as always, we need everybody out there hitting people in the mouth.
	It's called propagating our formula.
	Our formula is this.
	We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
	Hey, citizens.
	Shut up, Steve.
	Shut up, Steve.
	Been tracking out.
	I'm sorry.
	Yeah?
	What?
	No, go ahead.
	After you, sir.
	I have a suggestion for an evergreen clip.
	Okie dokie.
	Now, if people out there want to watch something crazy, there are these two guys that graduated from San Francisco State, and they did a series of kids' shows, which are for adults.
	That were just a mockery of kids' shows in some way.
	They had Muppets and all these things and horrible gags and lots of blood and gore.
	Is it a local show or national?
	No, it was an adult swim.
	Oh, okay.
	On cable.
	But I didn't realize they have them all on YouTube.
	And you can go to YouTube and watch these things if you can stand getting through one.
	I think personally that they're hilarious.
	But in a very sick way to use that, well, no, to use the real word.
	Anyway, they're called Wondershosen.
	Somebody sent me a bunch of discs with these shows on it sometime ago.
	Wondershosen.
	Yeah, Wondershosen.
	S-H-O-W-Z-E-N. Mm-hmm.
	And they have a lot of crazy little things.
	They have mostly kids doing jokes that the kids themselves get that's written for them.
	But play this.
	This is not the clip I wanted for Evergreen, but play this one.
	This is from the show.
	This is CIA. This is the kind of stuff you get.
	CIA and the Kid.
	I think the CIA is controlling my thoughts.
	No, we're not.
	Oh, I guess they're not.
	It's conditioning.
	Human resource training is what it is.
	Get ready for the CIA to control your thoughts.
	Now, the thing I think is a good possible evergreen is follow the leader.
	Okay, follow the leader.
	Follow the leader Now I'm going to probably add that to a few clips when Three more days till Halloween.
	Anyway, that's my whole thing about wonder shows in a couple of clips.
	Well, I'll connect in with a transition to CIA. How about that?
	Hit it.
	Snowden.
	Yeah, now before you talk about Snowden, do you want to talk about the statue?
	Yeah, that was strange.
	A little statue put in, was it Central Park?
	No, it was a...
	I think it was Central Park, or one of the parks.
	One of the parks in New York.
	Yeah, somebody put a statue down.
	I think the statue was missing that was once a statue, and so they put a statue of Snowden up and changed the thing at the bottom that says Ed Snowden.
	Yeah, that was cute.
	And I think it was FEMA or somebody that came down and blue tarped the thing and took it off.
	Assholes.
	I don't think it was FEMA. Yeah.
	That would be great if it was FEMA. That would make sense.
	No, I think it was just the NYPD. So, this is very peculiar.
	I'm not quite sure yet.
	That's why I want to discuss it with you.
	I'm not quite sure what I think of it.
	This is John Oliver, who I typically...
	Yeah, he's funny, without a doubt.
	He does this HBO show.
	He, of course, was a correspondent on The Daily Show.
	And a lot of people who listen to our show like him.
	They think he's very funny.
	I like him.
	I don't like him so much.
	My wife doesn't like him either.
	I don't like him that much.
	And for a number of reasons...
	So he went to Russia, and this really proves what a complete bogus, bogus branding exercise of Snowden this really is, and what brand Snowden is.
	As he interviews Snowden in Moscow, apparently anybody can now interview Snowden in Moscow, anybody at all.
	He's trying to meet people.
	Try Tinder.
	I don't know about doing that.
	And for me it was a little difficult...
	Having a British guy make fun of America, although he was right.
	I think this is what gets people the most...
	I think it does bother some people.
	It bothered me.
	So he did this whole segment.
	I recorded about a minute of it.
	Playing a video.
	And this, of course, is very...
	We know how this works.
	You go out on the street.
	You interview 100 people.
	And you pick the 10 out that say, I don't know who Snowden is.
	But just to be clear, we're talking about two different things here.
	Domestic surveillance and foreign surveillance.
	Because domestic surveillance, Americans give some of a shit about.
	Foreign surveillance, they don't give any remote shit about.
	I want you to listen to Snowden.
	So he's now under the gun.
	I don't know if he's prepared for this.
	I don't know if he's seen the show.
	I have no idea.
	But he pretty much drones on, not like a dude named Ben who works for the CIA and contracted for the NSA and then stole, let's just say, took documents and released them from Booz Allen.
	No, he sounds like an actual PR guy who just sits down, puts on the glasses with the same broken nose guard because he doesn't wear them unless he's doing an interview.
	because that is Bran Snowden.
	And he's really trying to answer like a PR person.
	Well, the second question is, when we talk about foreign surveillance...
	When we talk about foreign...
	Who talks like that?
	He has a mouse in his pocket.
	Are we applying it in ways that are beneficial?
	No one cares.
	That's funny.
	Okay, here's the problem.
	I did ask some Americans, and boy, did it surprise me.
	I have no idea who Edward Snowden is.
	You've never heard of Edward Snowden?
	No.
	I have no idea who Edward Snowden is.
	I've heard the name.
	I just can't picture, think right now, exactly what it is.
	Well, he's sold some information to people.
	He revealed some information that shouldn't have been revealed.
	Edward Snowden revealed a lot of documents through WikiLeaks.
	Edward Snowden revealed a bunch of secrets, I guess, or information into WikiLeaks.
	Edward Snowden leaked.
	He's in charge of WikiLeaks.
	I'm in charge of WikiLeaks.
	Not ideal.
	I guess on the plus side, you might be able to go home because it seems like no one knows who the fuck you are or what the fuck you do.
	I think a lot of that was edited.
	Oliver's show is extremely edited.
	His responses were edited in out of order.
	At least that's the way I saw it.
	It's an entertainment show.
	I know.
	I know, but it diminishes everything about Snowden.
	Yeah, I agree with that.
	I like the thing that he shut him down when he went into his PR spiel.
	Yeah, when we talk about...
	How much do you miss America?
	You know, my country...
	This was strange.
	...is something that travels with me, you know...
	It's not just a geography.
	Well, that's already a way too complicated answer.
	The answer is, I miss it a lot.
	It's the greatest country in the world.
	I do miss my country.
	I do miss my home.
	I do miss my family.
	Do you miss Hot Pockets?
	Hot Pockets!
	Yes.
	I miss Hot Pockets very much.
	Okay.
	Now, that had to be scripted.
	That answer that he gave?
	I don't believe so.
	I do not believe that because I've been watching The Daily Show long enough to know that one of their great acts is not being a well-known show amongst the public at large.
	And I think your initial premise, which was that Snow never heard of John Oliver, didn't have any idea that it was a comedy show, but was trying to respond like it was some sort of a real interview, which I've seen The Daily Show do with like mayors and chiefs of police.
	And try to humiliate them by asking kind of stupid questions.
	And Samantha Bee, one of the women who was married to one of the other writers, if you ever get to see her do this, she is the absolute most forward, humiliating person that they've ever had on the show.
	I mean, she makes people look like complete idiots.
	And I think that's what we had.
	I don't think it was rehearsed at all.
	Well, this next answer, to me, seemed edited.
	The entire state of Florida.
	The entire state of Florida was the question.
	And this is big, long pause.
	Let's just let that silence hang in the air.
	Truck nuts.
	And then truck nuts.
	Do you miss truck nuts?
	I don't know what they are.
	Do you know what truck nuts are?
	Yeah?
	Everybody knows what truck nuts are.
	How come Snowden doesn't know what truck nuts are?
	What is he, a commie?
	He's a commie!
	Everybody knows truck nuts, but he doesn't know truck nuts.
	I found that to be peculiar.
	Definitely truck nuts, and I think half of our audience probably doesn't know what they are.
	That was my guess.
	They're testicle-looking.
	It's a bag of, it looks like testicles hanging off your...
	That's mold that looks like a couple of hanging balls.
	And people put, some long-haul truckers put them in the back of their truck.
	You know, so they're bouncing, not quite, but they're almost hitting the road.
	Or your chin.
	Wishing around back there.
	Never comes first.
	Behind one of these guys, you go, what the...
	Ah, truck nuts.
	Yeah.
	Half of the chat room never heard of them.
	Okay, so there you go.
	I don't know.
	It totally diminishes Snowden.
	He is a PR guy.
	I'm not saying that he didn't do what he did or that it wasn't right, but he's a PR guy.
	Let's face it.
	He sounds like one.
	Yes, he puts on his PR guy glasses.
	No, he sounds like Josh Earnest.
	Yeah.
	Who they've been having on, I didn't get any clips of this, but they've been having Josh Earnest on various shows, including he was on Morning Joe.
	Oh, really?
	He's doing more shows than just his little stand-up thing?
	Oh, yeah.
	Oh.
	And he is the worst guest.
	Oh, I can only imagine.
	He won't say anything about anything.
	Whatever the litany is, they can't push him off the mark.
	I can only imagine how horrible he is.
	Do you have a clip?
	No, I said I didn't get a clip.
	Hmm.
	I have a clip from him, I think, about Iran.
	Okay.
	Let me see what this is.
	Specifically included in the Corker legislation is a provision.
	Now, as predicted, as predicted, This Iran deal, this is what the election is going to be about.
	The teams who are sitting together, turning the framework into an actual agreement, have until June, but it'll be July, August.
	We've got to pull all the way through the summer the lull in the media, and then we have to fight about it because Congress, particularly with this Corker bill, It's saying, hey, if you want to change the sanctions on Iran, you have to get our permission.
	And this bill is now controversial, and this is exactly what the media will be yelling about for the next nine months about the Corker bill and Republicans who are just, oh, they want to undermine everything.
	It essentially makes the agreement contingent upon Iran renouncing terrorism.
	Now, that's an unrealistic statement.
	I don't see why that's so unrealistic, by the way.
	They just say, okay, we renounce terrorism.
	Is that all they have to do?
	Is that what the Corker bill is about?
	That would, yeah, it's one of those stupid bills that they put in as a road, you know, something to humiliate one of the parties because the Iranian muckety-mucks, they're all, you know, Israel's got to go.
	And meanwhile, they do sponsor Hamas and Hezbollah.
	And the Houthis?
	It just seems like it's a...
	I'm on Ernest's side on this.
	I don't think...
	What difference does it make?
	We're trying to keep these guys rolling up themselves.
	At this point.
	Because we've been very clear that this agreement is focused on preventing Iran from obtaining a nuclear weapon and that it is not going to succeed in resolving the long list of concerns that we have with Iran's behavior.
	We want to prevent Iran from obtaining a nuclear weapon.
	And inserting a provision like this that...
	Essentially is intended to undermine the agreement in the first place is why we so strongly oppose, or at least have significant concerns and oppose, the current form of the Corker bill.
	And there you go.
	You know, you got cops shooting the black guy in the back and getting it on tape and then setting him up by putting the taser next to him and all these sorts of things going on in this country.
	And they spend their time on the Corker bill.
	I mean, to me, this is our Congress just trying to one-up each other.
	Ah, these guys did that.
	I don't like it.
	We should have done that or we shouldn't have done that or he shouldn't do that.
	They're doing the people's work, John.
	The people's work is being...
	It's just ridiculous, these guys.
	Let's talk about that South Carolina shooting, which, of course...
	Now, I have some comments on this video, and it reminded me a bit of the Boston Bombers.
	Just a brief clip here from the South Carolina police chief.
	I think that if you get all...
	What are you still thinking?
	What are you still thinking?
	The answer to your question, sir, is that if you are made privy to all of the video I have not seen all the video, so therefore I can't answer the questions.
	There's the car video.
	SLED has that.
	And what I understand, the video that I saw was not all of the video that exists.
	We only were able to look at what was given to us.
	I find this case very interesting because of the cell phone video.
	iPhone, clearly.
	First it's in portrait mode, then in landscape mode.
	The guy turns it around.
	I've looked very closely at what there is, and it seems to me, and of course we do not have the entire video, and there should be, as the police chief says, there will be a cop car video, I believe.
	Which will show, probably, that this guy tried to grab the stun gun, which, the way I saw it, fell on the ground, and then he ran away, and whether the officer at that point knew that he had the stun gun or not, and I don't know if this is one that shoots prongs with a wire on it, I don't know what kind of stun gun it is, and this officer made a decision and shot this guy in the back as he was running away.
	Doesn't seem like a very good and clean kill.
	What bothers me is, as I was perusing around on the narcissistic network of Facebook, and of course I have a lot of so-called friends on Facebook who are from other countries, forget about what we're going to talk about in America, about white cops killing black people.
	On Facebook, America sucks!
	What a horrible country!
	I never want to live there!
	And I would just like to remind people of the European Convention on Human Rights, one of the protocols that goes along with the Lisbon Treaty, which in effect is your constitution of the EU. And this is one of the things that really, actually, this got me started on doing this show with you.
	I think we discussed it before we even did a show.
	I would like to read for you Section 2 of the EU Convention on Human Rights.
	Deprivation of life shall not be regarded as inflicted in contravention of this article when it results from the use of force which is no more than absolutely necessary in the following cases.
	In America, there's no other constitution that says, hey, you can kill somebody if you run away from the police.
	I don't think so.
	Does it say that, John?
	Are you aware of any such provision?
	I'm thumbing through it now.
	There is no such provision.
	However, in the European Constitution, the protocols that belong to the Lisbon Treaty, the Convention on Human Rights, the deprivation of life, i.e.
	killing, shall not be regarded as inflicted in contravention of this article, i.e.
	your human right to life, if A. it is in defense of any person from unlawful violence, B. in order to effect a lawful arrest or to prevent escape of a person lawfully detained.
	So this would have been legal in Europe.
	The way I understand that, you're absolutely correct.
	And people are like, what?
	What?
	Yes.
	Now, this guy probably...
	This guy was arrested, immediately thrown in jail, and then he fired.
	Yeah, or whatever else is coming to him.
	Was he?
	No, he wasn't thrown in jail.
	Yeah.
	Oh, he was?
	Well, good.
	Well, no, he's in jail.
	No, he got arrested immediately for murder.
	Murder, not manslaughter.
	And thrown in jail and fired.
	So, you know, it's not a cop on leave.
	A paid vacation.
	So I just would like to remind people we do have justice in this country, although Al Sharpton is trying to turn it into the EU. I tried to get a video.
	I could not find it.
	There's a National Action Network.
	He did a big speech, and I found everybody had the same stupid soundbite.
	And even on Sharpton's own Action Network website, the most recent video they have is from 2014.
	It's annoying.
	But he is calling for federal police laws.
	And you're going to see a lot of people joining in with that.
	This is one of the big libertarian concerns that we're going to have a federal police.
	Sure.
	So the state's rights will be out there, even though the 10th Amendment ensures states' rights, and the Constitution ensures states' rights.
	Yes.
	But wait, John, doesn't federal law trump state law?
	In this case, it doesn't make any difference.
	And if you listen to the guys who know about the 10th Amendment, and it's why it came to be, because it seems redundant, is because some of the founders and the people that put together the Declaration of Independence, or not the Declaration of Independence, but the amendments, the first 10 amendments, which is the Bill of Rights, they made it the number 10 right because they were fearful that the Constitution didn't quite make it clear enough.
	Right.
	Well, this is all, of course, not the fault of anybody, but, well, let's listen to House Assistant Minority Leader Jim Clyburn, who is from South Carolina.
	He's a Democrat.
	He knows.
	He can't quite remember the name of the outfit that is responsible for this, but this is why.
	By the way, just to spoil it, it's Republicans.
	The problem we've got is that a climate has been created in the country that's causing these things to occur all over.
	And Chris, I know I get a lot of criticism from this from some of my friends, but this so-called American legislative...
	You can do it.
	You can do it.
	Whatever they call that group.
	Yeah.
	Alex.
	Alex.
	They have been drawing up these legislations, pieces of legislation like stand your ground.
	Guns.
	That legislation gives a license for people to be vigilantes.
	The cop.
	This is a cop.
	She's talking about stand your ground and vigilantes.
	They're the ones that have drawn up all these so-called voter ID laws.
	They're the ones that have been drawn up these unfair redistricting plans.
	These people are a cancer.
	Eating at the inners of our society.
	And it's time for our elected officials to start speaking out about this, because the climate that's being created is not a good climate.
	And that's why you have these rogue police officers feeling they have license to do what they want to do, and there will be no consequences paid for it.
	And I think that that's the mindset of this police officer.
	So it's all the fault of the Republicans, is kind of what I'm saying.
	What is the cancer eating at the dinners?
	I don't know.
	This guy is out of his mind.
	He thinks it's Alex.
	So you can't take much of what he says.
	He's only a representative.
	He's been in that office forever.
	Too long.
	All right.
	Let's hear one little...
	By the way, let's play this clip, Climate Change One-Liner.
	I don't know what this clip is.
	Okay.
	As California experiences a massive drought, we'll speak with two documentary filmmakers about the link between climate change and meat consumption.
	Oh, it was your setup.
	Yeah, it was my setup.
	It was your setup.
	That's all right.
	That's all right.
	Here's an interesting clip.
	This is from France24.
	This is just to prove that the British maybe have taken a hint from us.
	And this is about the polls, because we have an election coming up in the UK between the different parties.
	And then we should probably mention that in the United Kingdom, there's a raging debate about the freedom to travel and having Polish workers come in and take British jobs.
	But this is about the polling going on and who's going to win.
	Oh, I'm sorry.
	I thought you meant polls as in the polls from Poland.
	Yeah, I don't know what you're talking about.
	You said polls.
	I like polls.
	Yeah, the polls, the Polish.
	I'm sorry.
	This is a hint from our approach to polling.
	And now you're going to hear some of what the polling has revealed.
	Tell me who you think is going to win.
	Well, we don't know, do we?
	Well, play the clip.
	It's a close race, isn't it?
	What is this?
	You have...
	Paul, I got it.
	...is called What Sphinx.
	John Curtis teaches at the University of Strathclyde.
	Welcome back to the show.
	And, well, frankly, they're as clear as mud, according to who you believe.
	The Tories are up by two points, up by one point, down by one point.
	The Conservatives on track, though, to garner the greatest number of seats...
	Okay, so we have the up by one point, down by two points.
	This is, to me, a scam.
	Says that we got the same thing going on over there that we like to pull in this country, which is the media, which is always looking for more money.
	The media, unlike the No Agenda show, the media...
	Oh God, what's today's thing?
	Are we getting enough advertising revenue from the Tories, the Conservatives?
	Oh no, they're way down.
	Oh, well then we better make it look like that Labor's winning.
	This is just bull crap, but I'm glad to see that the British are doing the same thing to their public.
	They've learned something.
	We take all their actors, we've got good movies, and they take our TV tricks.
	Now they went on, this is on France 24, they went on discussing these experts, this is the show, it's called Debate, it's quite good, and they were talking about the different little parties, including UKIP, And this, right in the middle, believe me, they do not do this.
	Somebody in the studio control room dropped a sound effect like when he says UKIP, there's like an applause.
	Somebody just turned on the laugh meter.
	Play this.
	Within the conservative camp, the main rival, is it the Labour Party or is it the smaller parties, most notably the more far-right-leaning UKIP? Well, I think the...
	The fact is that whoever is leader, it's going to be David Cameron or Ed Miliband.
	No one else can be the leader.
	That's funny.
	They should use our sound effects, though.
	There's still a little Parliament in there.
	That's better.
	Yes, I'm watching this, and as that crops up, I said, wait a minute.
	Hold on a second.
	That was funny.
	It's all slanted.
	In our elections here, Hillary is ramping up her team.
	This report I thought was interesting.
	She hired...
	Very important person.
	And this report does two things.
	First, it tells us that she's hired Christina Shockey.
	Very little information available about Ms.
	Shockey.
	S-H-O-C-K-E-Y. Christina Shockey.
	Does she have a wiki page?
	No.
	She is the PR handler for, or was the PR handler for, Michelle Obama.
	And in this report, this is what I kind of liked about it, they announce that Hillary's hired her, and then they say, and all of these things that she set up, which now apparently is common knowledge, were fake, phony, and bullcrap.
	For Hillary Clinton, the building blocks of a presidential campaign are now taking shape.
	She's already putting together a virtual shadow team of advisors, most recently adding a former aide to First Lady Michelle Obama.
	Christina Shockey is credited with helping soften Mrs.
	Obama's public image.
	She's the aide behind that undercover shopping trip to Target, the First Lady's cameo at the Oscars, even those unforgettable dance moves with Jimmy Fallon.
	Ah, thank you for telling us that Target was fake.
	Wow!
	That's good, isn't it?
	Yeah.
	They don't even realize what they're doing.
	No, they're not realizing.
	They're revealing to the public that this is bogus.
	And she also hired a former Google executive.
	This is very concerning, this flow over from Google and Facebook into politics.
	It's not like these people leave Google and FaceTime and don't know anything or anybody.
	And it's not like Google and Facebook don't know all of us.
	Just as a little example.
	Yeah, well...
	It's concerning.
	It is, yeah, it is concerning.
	And on Facebook...
	So this Christina Shockey is good enough to pull off some of these real scammish publicity stunts, including the dance move.
	That's unbelievable.
	It is, just to KSS X-18, it is concerning.
	It is also disconcerting.
	But it is, can it be of concern?
	What is it?
	The difference does it make.
	At this point.
	Concerning is a real word.
	Disconcerting is a different word.
	Facebook, if you are in a state that has bullying, cyberbullying, or computer harassment laws, and there are, I think, about 30 of them now.
	These all stem from kids committing suicide...
	Yeah, not from taking drugs.
	In fact, the lawyers who crop up for these kids, usually LGBTQIAP, they take their own life and it's all blamed on cyberbullying and not on the drugs that they're on, the antidepressants.
	And the lawyers that show up, as we've documented on this program, are often lawyers who also work for the big pharmaceutical corporations.
	But there is now, and this will fall right under net neutrality, this will fall right under what is lawful content and unlawful content, and this will be eventually at a federal level, this is what net neutrality is all going to bring us, and the states will, I think they'll all fall lockstep right in because they love it, love regulating everything, which reminds me I need to...
	I'll say again that the FCC regulates the amateur radio airwaves.
	I'm licensed.
	I took a test, mainly a technical test, but there are some other questions in there.
	And it is foreboding, foreboding I say, on the ham amateur radios to do anything of a commercial nature, but also vulgarity.
	Can't cuss.
	Nope.
	Bulgari or, what's the word, lascivious language?
	You can probably drool.
	Lascivious concepts, vulgar languages, foreboding.
	And people have been fined up to $20,000 for breaking.
	$20,000.
	Thank you to net neutrality, because the internet is now under the auspices, and it's not quite finished, and it hasn't fully been approved.
	But they're headed toward...
	Controlling the internet in much the same way.
	And here's an example of a couple of kids messing around.
	It's a teenage girl messing around.
	She lives in Virginia, a cyber-bully law state, messing around with some kids and getting in big trouble for it.
	Think twice the next time you text or send an angry message or photo on social media.
	That's all you need to know right there.
	That is your future of the internet.
	I feel like it's ridiculous because we were all guilty in the same offense.
	26-year-old Kristen Holmes was just arrested, accused of harassment by computer.
	And I admit, I was childish and argued as well.
	Everybody was arguing.
	Kristen says she was mistaken for another woman, so she posted this photo with the caption, I'll post a few actual pics of me so you know the difference when you, quote, come find me.
	Then words were exchanged that we can't say on TV. She had a picture of her.
	TV is regulated by the FCC. She had a picture of her brandishing a handgun.
	What happened to freedom of speech?
	And it was just a picture.
	It wasn't a threat.
	And so the next time you go on Facebook, remember...
	Holmes admittedly posted ill-conceived things on Facebook and now faces a Class 1 misdemeanor that could lead to a year in jail and up to a $2,500 fine.
	And there's no such thing as a petty crime.
	There's no such thing as a petty offense.
	Kevin Carroll with the Fraternal Order of Police says, according to state code, using a computer to send vulgar or indecent language or to threaten illegal or moral acts could get you slapped with the same charge.
	You arresting someone for using bad words?
	It's actually against the law to say it in public.
	Okay, curse and abuse.
	Curse and abuse is illegal in the state of Virginia?
	Well, this is crazy.
	It's part of a disorderly conduct statute.
	Disorderly conduct statute.
	There's more to it.
	If it's against the law to say it in the public, why wouldn't it be against the law to say it to someone through a computer?
	I thought it was a funny picture, and then I realized later that it was a little bit intimidating, so I took it down.
	But Holmes ended up in jail because someone shared the Facebook messages with police, who then took out warrants for her arrest.
	The real message here?
	Be careful what you put on the internet because you can go to jail for it.
	Facebook thugging is a crime.
	Facebook thugging is a crime.
	Facebook thugging?
	Uh-huh.
	There's a show title.
	Remember, kids...
	I'm a rule follower, so if the rule is that we have to do it, then I'll do it.
	That's right.
	Follow the rules.
	That's a great, you know?
	No, no, no, it's not that good.
	It's not good enough.
	You're getting lax.
	It was just the Facebook thugging.
	Girl goes to jail for just a photo.
	I mean, come on.
	This is headed in the wrong direction.
	At least we're identifying it so everybody can get ready for it.
	Facebook thugging.
	Oh, okay, don't do that.
	You also can't threaten with an immoral act.
	What?
	That's what the guy said.
	You cannot threaten someone.
	You cannot threaten with an immoral act.
	Immoral act, yeah.
	So like, hey, I'm going to do you.
	Well, that's going to be easy.
	Wow.
	Because every newbie female that comes on any one of these tech shows, they have all these guys.
	If you look at the chat room, they're just, I knew her.
	Send a picture.
	Big talk.
	You send a picture.
	Send a photo.
	I'm going to jail.
	I think I should get a tattoo.
	Facebook thugging.
	I'm a Facebook thug.
	I'm going to change my profile picture to Facebook thug.
	Perfect.
	Mm-hmm.
	I thought this was interesting.
	This will be...
	Let's go with...
	I got a bunch of these on weapons.
	You know, Obama has now set the record for allowing most export of weaponry.
	Yeah, we just sold a billion to...
	Who did we sell a billion to?
	To Pakistan.
	A billion dollars worth of...
	That's a spit in the bucket.
	It's a tip.
	Play the weapons backgrounder plus Iran.
	What do you think the Iran nuclear deal, if anything, portends for U.S. sales to the Middle East?
	President Obama is about to call a meeting at Camp David with the leaders of all the Gulf nations.
	Do you see them exploiting that to call for increased military purchases from the U.S.? Unfortunately, yes.
	I mean, you would think a reduction of tension should reduce the arms sales, but the Saudis have been screaming about the deal, saying, well, you're letting Iran off the hook, which is not the case, and therefore you have to bulk up our armaments, which is kind of insane given the amounts that have already gone there.
	So, how does the Obama administration spending on military weapons, and is it the Obama administration spending money on military weapons or just allowing the weapons to be sold to these countries?
	And how does it compare to the two terms of the George W. Bush administration?
	Oh, please.
	Well, primarily these are sales because the Saudis and others in the Gulf can afford them, the exceptions being aid to Egypt and Israel, which are the biggest recipients of U.S. military aid.
	Under Bush, they sold about $30 billion less than the $169 billion of the first five years of Obama.
	So already in five years, he sold what Bush did in eight years.
	And what does this mean for war in the world?
	Sales are up!
	...results now, as they mentioned in the prior segment, Saudi Arabia is using U.S. weapons to bomb Yemen.
	Civilians have been killed.
	Egypt is not exactly a democratic regime, as we know.
	Now they've opened sales again to them.
	They've supported dictators for many years prior to Obama, which helped, in one hand, spark the Arab Spring, but also has armed the counterattacks I think it's spinning out of control now.
	Now, it really is disconcerting to people like Democracy Now!
	staff when they say Obama's allowed and managed to sell more in five years and more than any other...
	Did she lose her shit over it?
	No, they can't deal with it.
	Because it's like, oh my god, what are we going to do?
	I don't know, maybe he should be named a Republican.
	We'll just blame the Republicans somehow.
	They can't really deal with it.
	You can play the other clip.
	The other part of this was, besides the outrageous amount, it's also more, Obama's a lot more in five months than any president has since World War II, and probably before that, because I think only maybe during World War II we were spending a lot of money on weaponry.
	But this is completely out of control.
	And this is the weapon sale long clip.
	I'm going to skip these.
	And let's go to the clip after clip.
	Everyone's wringing their hands over all those arms that are being sold all over the place to rubbleize the place.
	And then out of the blue, I picked up this clip, which kind of added another dimension.
	This is the Trans-Pacific Deal clip.
	Arizona State University, ahead of a trip to Asia, Secretary Carter touted the Obama administration's so-called rebalance toward the Asia-Pacific region, saying it should include both new high-end weaponry and the trade deal, which covers 40 percent of the global economy.
	Carter compared the deal to a new aircraft carrier.
	We're going to rumbleize the entire world if we can get away with it.
	Ladies and gentlemen, it is time to rumbleize!
	Funny, I found a clip from former CIA director Wolseley from, when was this?
	2006.
	And it struck me because it sounded so much like the Wes Clark clip.
	The famous Wes Clark 7, which I probably should just play again, just because.
	So I came back to see him a few weeks later, and by that time we were bombing in Afghanistan.
	I said, are we still going to war with Iraq?
	And he said, oh, it's worse than that.
	He said, he reached over on his desk, he picked up a piece of paper, he said, I just...
	He said, I just got this down from upstairs, meaning the Secretary of Defense Office today, and he said, this is a memo that describes how we're going to take out seven countries in five years, starting with Iraq and then Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, and finishing off Iran.
	And here's the former CIA director in 2006 with a similar take, but a little more F yeah.
	The problem is not Islam.
	The problem is tyranny.
	And if we convince the decent Muslims of the world, the decent people of the world, the people who are in slavery, essentially, including in many of these states, the women, that we are on their side, we will ultimately prevail, just as we did in World Wars I, II, and III, the Cold War.
	I didn't know the Cold War was known as World War III. Well, I don't think anybody called it that but him.
	As we do this, we close with this, we will make people nervous.
	We will make the Saudi royal family nervous.
	We will make the Mubarak regime in Egypt nervous.
	And if we succeed in freeing Iraq and then begin to turn our attention to the Syrias and the Libyas and the other rogue states and exert pressure for them to change, the Saudi royal family and the Mubarak regime will come to us and they'll say, we're very, very nervous.
	And our response should be, good.
	We want you nervous.
	We want you to realize that now, for the fourth time in 100 years, this country and its allies, its democratic allies, are on the march.
	We are going to win, and we're going to win because we are on the side of those whom these regimes most fear.
	Their own people.
	Woo!
	That's right, everybody.
	Just the one you're hoping for a clip of the day, I can tell.
	No, I'm not holding that for clip.
	There's a need for a rescue mission.
	When the world is threatened.
	That's right.
	The world needs help.
	We need to threaten.
	Calls on America.
	That's right.
	We're coming threatened here, bitch!
	Woo!
	And that's the story.
	That's the story.
	That is the story.
	I don't know what Wolsey's thinking or what he was hoping to achieve or accomplish or what he thought was going to happen, but it turns out that the war machine, in terms of the people that make the...
	Weapons.
	Weapons.
	That's us.
	It's just totally kicking ass.
	Now, I don't have this clip.
	I may have it someplace, but I don't have it in today's show.
	The CEO of Lockheed Martin was actually in a conference call for the shareholders.
	And I want to remind people, I keep hearing this on the tech shows.
	Last seen, there's not that many women in tech.
	And then they name...
	Sheryl Sandberg, who's really not a CEO, and Melissa.
	And that's it!
	They always fail to mention the two biggest computer companies, or two of the biggest, in the world.
	IBM. You have Meg Whitman, and you have Jeannie Rometty, whatever her name is, that runs IBM. These are women.
	I don't know why they don't count them.
	And then we fail to mention that one of the giant tech companies, Lockheed Martin, has a woman CEO. That's right.
	And is GE not a woman now as well?
	I don't know.
	I'm not GE. I'm sorry.
	General Motors.
	General Motors.
	Oh, yeah.
	General Motors.
	Yeah.
	But let's ignore all that and talk about and maybe plug Sheryl Sandberg's book again.
	That's what it always amounts to.
	Anyway, she came out and pretty much said that we want to foment trouble because sales will be up and we got to target Asia.
	So we're going to, in fact, she said almost overtly that they're going to, they're trying to get more sales into Asia, so they got to, you know, make people nervous.
	Like, Woolsey did make that point clear.
	Make them nervous, they buy guns.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, no, it's really unconscionable.
	Well, that's exactly what we do.
	Make them nervous, they buy guns.
	North Korea, make them nervous, they buy guns.
	South Korea, then.
	Make everybody nervous, they buy guns.
	They should be joining with North Korea.
	They should have negotiations to reunite the countries.
	They should be doing things like that that are peaceful.
	But no, make them buy more guns.
	It's good for our country.
	It's worse than that.
	It's worse than that.
	Not only are we selling guns and weaponry at a crazy rate, what was the multiple of George Bush?
	It was a multiple.
	It was 30 billion more.
	It wasn't a multiple.
	It was 30 billion more in five years than Bush's whole eight years.
	So we've got three more years to go.
	So it'd probably be double Bush.
	Well, the thing we need to fix, of course, right now, really for the American economy, I'm just being...
	Practical here.
	We need to pour more money into the military-industrial complex.
	And this is the sequestration problem, which has to end.
	McCain is trying to end it.
	He runs the whole War Committee, whatever that's called.
	That's what it should be called.
	The War Committee.
	Redo the Chiron.
	With the lower third.
	John McCain, Chief of War Committee.
	So at the Pentagon, they had the NORAD commander talking about our missile defense system.
	And his message was surprising to me.
	If you listen to it, it's about a minute, 30, a little longer than I'd like, and I cut it down from eight.
	He is pretty much, he says, our missile defense system, yeah, it's kind of working, but not really because, oh, I don't know, sequestration!
	Yes.
	I'm the person that owns the trigger.
	I own the trigger, bitches!
	How about that, huh?
	I'm the person that owns the trigger, just so you know.
	I'm NORAD. I own the trigger.
	I don't maintain it.
	The services maintain it.
	It's designed by Admiral Jim Searing and the Missile Defense Agency, but I own the trigger.
	That's just so cool to say that.
	Hey, you want to kill a whole nation?
	I own the trigger.
	On this one, I have high confidence that it'll work against North Korea.
	High confidence it'll work.
	Not 100%, but high confidence it'll work against North Korea.
	You know, it was designed to defend against nations that might not be deterred other ways, and that would clearly be North Korea in that regard.
	We're very concerned about the mobile nature of the KN08. So the KN08 doesn't work mobily very well.
	We lose our ability to get the indications that something might occur, and then, of course, the unpredictable nature of the regime that's there.
	Oh, yeah.
	Be with his pleasure squad.
	He's going to come kill us with his pleasure squad.
	Watch out.
	Improve our sensors, our discrimination sensors, so that we have high confidence and be able to detect the objects that are in space.
	Space wars, anybody?
	We need to improve the lethality of the kill vehicle.
	And those have to be done concurrently.
	They're not sequentially.
	They all have to be put You know what this is leading up to.
	I think we need some more money for this because we're not safe.
	Money.
	We need money.
	We're not safe.
	Money.
	...that he needs to go after his, you know, when it comes to ballistic missile defense.
	We're on the wrong side of the cost curve.
	The wrong side of the cost curve.
	Oh my goodness.
	We're shooting down not very expensive rockets, we're very expensive rockets.
	We need to look at the entire kill chain.
	Kill chain!
	And drive through kinetic and non-kinetic means and through deterrence, keep them on the rail.
	We need to be able to start...
	Keep them on the rail.
	...in the boost phase, just after that, and not just rely on the mid-course phase where we are today.
	And that's why it's the importance that the effects of sequestration will be pretty hard on Missile Defense Agency.
	When it comes to sequestration...
	Aha, there it is.
	It delays new capability.
	And the other place that it really impacts the services is it comes out of readiness.
	It's the only place that you can generate the money.
	Well, Missile Defense Agency doesn't have a readiness account large enough to cover the sequestration cuts.
	Is that like a debit card or something?
	A readiness account?
	So you can just access that to buy more stuff?
	I could use one of those cards.
	I want my advance kill vehicle.
	We should have a couple of those ready for the crazy North Koreans.
	They should give them to the small cities in America.
	Give them to the white police officers.
	This came along with a 60 Minutes piece on J. Johnson.
	I don't know if you caught that on Sunday.
	J. Johnson?
	I missed J. Johnson.
	J. Johnson.
	And I learned a lot about J. Johnson.
	He is a very, very frightening individual.
	He's like a teddy bear.
	That's what I thought, too.
	It's kind of like the Colin Powell look to him a little bit.
	You know what I mean?
	Like, I can't really do anything.
	He might lie to the American people, but he's not really a scary guy who actually kills people.
	Do you know his background without peeking?
	He's a lawyer.
	I'll give you a hint.
	He's a lawyer.
	Yes, you are correct.
	We don't even have to play the clips.
	So, I pulled a couple clips, short ones, all of them, from this.
	And the woman who did the interview, who's the, what's her name?
	She has a completely rebuilt face.
	Oh, uh, Greta Garbo?
	Her eyes are too close together and her nose is all pinched up.
	What's that girl, what's the woman's name?
	Sustran.
	No, no, on 60 Minutes?
	No.
	Oh, 60 Minutes.
	She's older, I'll just put it that way.
	Oh, the blonde?
	Yes, that one.
	Oh yeah, her Leslie Stahl.
	That's the one.
	She made it real easy on him, but she got out some good things and some good quotes.
	This is talking about, of course, radicalized children.
	Because it's everywhere.
	It's rampant.
	The social media expertise of ISIS, ISIL, IS, advertising, whatever you want to call them, is so above all norms that kids are just romanticized by it.
	They love it.
	It's happening everywhere.
	The FBI says it has homegrown extremist investigations going on in every single state.
	How serious is this threat?
	Is it hair on fire?
	Hair on fire.
	I don't know this.
	This is new to me.
	Hair on fire.
	The serious threat.
	Hair on fire.
	Every state?
	I certainly don't believe in the hair on fire phenomenon.
	Hair on fire.
	Good.
	But every state?
	I mean, that means it's percolating everywhere.
	The fact that we have investigations in every state does not surprise me.
	We are very concerned about young people romanticizing a group like ISIL. And so we've got to keep tabs on it all.
	And what do we have to keep tabs on?
	Well, we know...
	Hair.
	Hair?
	But what is the typical profile of a self-radicalized person in the United States?
	Facebook user.
	In the basement.
	This kid is sitting in his basement or her basement.
	It could be a her, but they're in the basement.
	So parents, right now, go downstairs and make sure your kid isn't reading the radicalized websites.
	And reading the web.
	Web?
	Reading the web?
	What are you doing today?
	Reading the web.
	I'm going to go read the web for a little bit, maybe.
	Hey, this is 60 Minutes, people.
	Journalistic.
	Reading the web.
	And being radicalized.
	How...
	It's so simple.
	Read the web, be radicalized.
	It's a bumper sticker.
	Read the web, be radicalized.
	And being radicalized.
	How on earth can you keep a tab on that person?
	That's the challenge, isn't it?
	That's the challenge.
	What should we do?
	What should we do?
	How do we do this?
	There's only one thing to do.
	What will J. Johnson want us to do?
	Kill rat on each other.
	And that's one of the things that frankly keeps me up at night because we would have little or no notice if somebody decides to commit an act of violence.
	So if the family member, the religious leader, the teacher trusts us enough to inform us, we're in a position to make a difference.
	The Department of Homeland Security wants you, the public, to call in.
	It's part of a new push to deal with the lone wolf threat, with Johnson himself reaching out to build trust with local leaders.
	If you see something, say something!
	Can I ask a question here?
	Yes, of course, of course.
	Have we been having a lot of bombings?
	I mean, there's a Boston thing that took place, like, what, five years ago.
	But since 9-11, has there been a lot of bombings and suicide bombers?
	No, no, no, no, no, no.
	Because every 34 days, according to the report...
	Every 34 days, which is almost six weeks, it's a little short, but it's an average.
	Every 34 days, the FBI stops self-radicalized people from planning and implementing some horrible thing, some atrocity.
	Aren't they involved in setting these things up themselves?
	Yes, they are.
	Yes, I will get to that in a moment.
	I should mention Johnson, J-E-H-J. He pronounces it J, but it's J. J. Johnson is the head of the Department of Homeland Security.
	And he is getting a lot of kudos for shaping up morale.
	Of course, it was run by horrible, horrible people.
	Janet Napolitano, and they were discriminating against men.
	Gang of lesbians, let's be honest about it.
	I'm sorry.
	A gang of lesbians was running the Department of Homeland Security, making men put their desks in the bathroom to humiliate them.
	Hey, you didn't say they were without humor.
	I think it's funny.
	I like the idea.
	They've got a big kick out of it.
	So this is where we learn what J. Johnson did before he was the director of the Department of Homeland Security.
	I did not know this.
	If it was...
	A strike off what we call the hot battlefield.
	This is about drone strikes, and in particular, Anwar al-Awlaki.
	In other words, outside of Iraq and Afghanistan, by the military, then I would have to give the legal sign off first.
	So he was the lawyer, the lawyer, who would determine if a person could be killed by drone.
	Did you know that?
	You know, I don't know why I didn't know it, and maybe I did know it, but I don't think I knew it.
	I don't think so.
	But that's a disgusting job.
	So he's the guy behind it's okay to kill Americans, and he's heading up Homeland Security?
	Yes.
	I don't want that.
	Yes, listen further.
	...of Iraq and Afghanistan by the military, then...
	I would have to give the legal sign off first.
	And so I did that.
	At one point, you had to decide whether it was okay to kill an American, a walkie.
	In any use of targeted lethal force, we'd have to conclude that it was consistent with domestic law and international law.
	Did you say it was not legal?
	By the way, he just slips that in there.
	To kill an American, it has to be legal by domestic law and international law.
	And when does international law tell our administration or our elected officials that it's okay to kill Americans?
	I don't think international law should play any part in that.
	He put that in there for a specific reason.
	I don't think so.
	I think so.
	With domestic law and international law.
	Did you say it was not legal many times?
	Occasionally, I would have to conclude...
	Once in a while, I'm like, God, no damn!
	Why doesn't he just say, no, I never did that?
	Sorry for taking the Lord's name in vain, but that's crazy!
	That the legal authority was not there, and quickly found out that it was actually easier to say yes than it was to say no.
	Well, of course.
	It's much more fun that way.
	What is he saying?
	He said it's easier to kill somebody than like, oh, maybe we shouldn't kill them.
	Did she?
	Wait a minute.
	Let me guess.
	Because we're listening to the 60 Minutes show.
	It's a really famous show.
	Famous, famous, famous.
	The next question she asks, I can, I can, I didn't see this, but I can predict.
	Yeah.
	I can predict.
	Yeah.
	The next question she asks is, And how did you manage to sign off on killing a 16-year-old boy?
	Oh, man.
	An American citizen, 16 years old, has nothing to do with anything, sitting at a cafe, drinking coffee with his pals.
	You must be from the future.
	Yeah.
	But not this future, because no, she didn't ask that.
	Of course not.
	What?
	We found out that it was actually easier to say yes than it was to say no.
	Yay!
	Why was it easier to say yes?
	Yay!
	Very often when we're asked to approve the use of targeted lethal force, it can only be in a matter of minutes.
	And so there's a lot of momentum to that.
	Yeah, hurry up, hurry up.
	We need an answer.
	But I'm looking through the rule book.
	Hold on a second.
	I'm going to see if it's okay.
	He might order another cup of coffee or he might leave the cafe.
	So to say no is like stepping in front of a 90-car freight train.
	Oh, there's your answer, John.
	He can't say no because...
	He's a man of principle.
	He's a man of...
	He thinks for himself.
	Yes, it's so nice.
	He sounds like he's just a stooge in a pushover.
	The first time you said yes, you have said...
	Sounds like they're talking about anal sex or something.
	I don't know, it's very disgusting.
	The first time you said yes, it was like being in front of a freight train.
	That you were very uncomfortable.
	Yes.
	How could somebody be comfortable with authorizing, legally, the use of legal force?
	My view is, if you become comfortable with it, then you should get out of the job.
	What you actually said was, if I were Catholic, I would have to go to confession.
	Yes.
	He's a murderer!
	Yeah!
	That's what I said at the beginning of the segment!
	I know, you were right.
	Let me finish this, let me finish it.
	Did it get easier?
	Did it get easier?
	That is a good question.
	I think that's humorous, by the way.
	Did it get easier to kill people?
	No.
	No.
	It never got easier.
	Never.
	Were you sure?
	Are you sure?
	You already said it was easier to say yes than no.
	Yeah, but it did get easier than that, where you didn't just blink once for yes.
	No.
	But there has been so often collateral, what they call collateral damage, meaning that innocents get killed.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	How are you?
	Screw them.
	That happens in war.
	Does it haunt you?
	I don't know if I like the word haunt.
	It tickles me?
	It tickles my fancy?
	It gives me butterflies in my tummy?
	You have to be sensitive to the notion that the judgments we make today could be condemned on the pages of history.
	Hmm.
	Years from now.
	So it doesn't bother him that he is issuing commands to kill people.
	He's bothered that he'll look bad in the history books.
	What a dick!
	And his term, he ends in 2016.
	He's only there for this year.
	And I want to hire him.
	I want to hire him.
	Win, lose, or drone!
	Special guest star, ladies and gentlemen, Jud Johnson, former Department of Homeland Security.
	He is the trigger man.
	He will determine who's going to die tonight on Win, Lose, or Drone!
	Yes!
	Come on down.
	Well, he's an interesting character.
	You're right.
	You caught me off guard.
	I did not expect to hear that he was the guy who signed off on the legal ramifications to kill a 16-year-old boy in a cafe as an American citizen.
	Within minutes.
	Within minutes.
	Yeah, it's easier to say yes than no.
	What it was easier to do was to say, let me see what the number is on my paycheck.
	Oh, yeah, it's a lot easier to say yes.
	I won't even be working for the government if I say no.
	Man!
	Hey, I see you have an Al-Shabaab Kenya thing.
	Can we do that?
	It's a rap clip.
	We haven't been covering it.
	The only reason I want to do it is because I have a jingle for it, that's all.
	Oh, you want to play the jingle after the clip?
	After the clip, yeah.
	It's a rap clip.
	It's one of those clips that is a generalized clip that explains what's going on, because it's one of the things that we have not covered yet.
	And people always complain, we didn't talk about that, so I wanted to talk about this.
	Okay.
	So there it is.
	And one of our jingle makers sent in a jingle because he said, Secret Agent Paul, who's done a lot of great jingles for us, he said...
	You know, this is gonna come up.
	You guys gotta be talking about this.
	Kenyans launched another round of airstrikes in Somalia targeting the militant group Al-Shabaab after it claimed responsibility for the massacre of 148 people, mainly Christian students, at Kenya's Gorisa University College.
	Kenyan authorities say they destroyed two al-Shabaab camps Monday, but a resident told the Associated Press the strikes appeared to hit grassland used to graze animals.
	Al-Shabaab, yadadadadadadadada, Al-Shabaab.
	Al Shabab.
	It's cute.
	He could have carried it out.
	I think he should have gone all the way, Shabab, to the end, right?
	Yeah, he could extend that clip.
	He'll do a remix.
	It's cute.
	It's got a nice, you know, it's an old 50s doo-wop.
	Shaboom Shaboom.
	Yeah, Shaboom Shaboom is the original song.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Classic.
	Nice.
	I love our jingle makers.
	Not only do I love...
	We've got so many jingles now that we can't even...
	Adam can't even find it.
	I've actually...
	No, I have to say, I don't know if you've noticed it, but I am...
	You can just name something and I'll give it a shot because I have a new system.
	It's all good to go.
	Name something.
	Water shortage.
	Water shortage?
	Okay, I have watermelon.
	We don't have a water shortage clip.
	You said...
	Oh, but like...
	Something that we did.
	How about the clip that sounds a lot like the Beatles introducing our donation segment?
	Oh, let me see if I can find that one.
	I'm going to show myself old by donating to no agenda.
	Imagine all the people who could do that.
	Oh, yeah, that'd be fab.
	All right, we do have some people to thank for show 7-11.
	Lucky show 7-11.
	7-11.
	And how many people do you think came in with a 7-11 donation?
	I would think zero.
	John Knowles didn't.
	He came in with $111.11, one of our classic donations from Murfreesboro, Tennessee.
	Sir John Knowles, I believe.
	Dame Tanya Foster, who awaited us.
	We went to her restaurant.
	I was going to say, for your birthday, did she...
	Yep.
	Nice.
	She was there.
	And she was there.
	And in fact, JC and his wife won't even go to this restaurant.
	If anyone in Berkeley or in the Berkeley area, East Bay, you want to go to a very interesting experimental restaurant that has tremendous food.
	It's called Corso, C-O-R-S-O. And Dame Tanya Foster works there as a waitress, which means she's also an actress.
	So demeaning of you.
	It's a fact.
	You can almost say he's a waiter and a podcaster.
	That's very similar.
	Very similar.
	Anyway, she gave us $100 in Richmond, California, so we have to give her bigger tips now.
	Anyway, she was there.
	She was bubbly in the whole thing.
	It's a great place.
	It's a good dinner.
	I brought a magnum of champagne and made sure she had some.
	So you didn't have to pay the cork fee, you mean?
	That's one of the old tricks.
	It works.
	In 90% of the cases, for people out there who like corkage...
	Ladies and gentlemen, hold on a second.
	Here is a tip.
	A John C. Dvorak money-saving tip.
	Money-saving tip.
	If you have a bottle of fancy wine you want to bring to a restaurant and a corkage fee...
	This is not something that exists in Europe, by the way.
	This is, I think, exclusively an American thing.
	Could be.
	I'm pretty sure.
	I think it might be.
	Cork fee.
	Explain cork fee.
	Canada may or may not have it.
	I'm not sure.
	But it's called corkage.
	And the corkage fee pays for the glasses, the cleaning of the glasses.
	If you bring your own alcohol.
	You bring your own bottle.
	B-Y-O-B. So you bring a bottle of wine.
	And it should be a bottle of something special if you're going to do it at all.
	You don't bring a cheap bottle to this corkage.
	No.
	And the corkage fee is anywhere from $10 to $25.
	I've seen higher.
	A dollar.
	Sometimes I think the French Laundry would be like $50 because they don't want you doing it.
	And you bring the corkage in, and then you make sure that the waiter has it.
	First, you have to know about the wine.
	You just tell the waiter, this is a great wine.
	You should have some.
	And make sure they bring a glass out.
	Try to pour it yourself, because although Tanya pours a short pour for herself, I've seen guys pour like a half a glass of wine into their glass to taste it.
	But this was a magnum of champagne, so...
	This is a magnum of champagne.
	There's plenty of wine.
	And you have them taste it, and then you maybe discuss it with them for a second if you have anything to say.
	And then you rarely get charged the corkage fee.
	Rare.
	Nice.
	Ladies and gentlemen, another money-saving tip from John C. Dvorak, where the C stands for cash.
	Also coming in on show 7-Eleven is Dame Astrid, the Duchess of Japan.
	Hey, Ro.
	In Tokyo.
	She says, best wishes for your birthday, John.
	Hope you become 100 years old, at least.
	We cannot do without your fountain of knowledge.
	Such is this money-saving tip.
	Just imagine all those noodle kids, she says.
	Thank you, Dame Astrid.
	Duchess of Japan.
	Sandy Block in Rancho Santa Fe, California, 7777.
	Keep the sanity coming!
	Yes.
	I have two interviews on Friday.
	Job karma, please do that at the end.
	Of course.
	We actually have some...
	Jamie also needs job karma.
	Put that at the end.
	Howard Abraham, Rochester, Minnesota, 77-11.
	That's kind of close.
	And then we have...
	Now, I looked up a million ways to pronounce this name, and there is a Danish pronunciation.
	It's Sean Kersgaard.
	No, no, no, no, no.
	Soren.
	No, no.
	Soren Kersgaard.
	No.
	Soren Kersgaard.
	No, it's Kersgarn.
	The D is not pronounced.
	It's not pronounced Soarin'.
	It's Sean.
	I'll send you the four-vote pronunciations.
	I've listened to this a million times.
	Hey, John.
	I was going to send it to you because I knew you were going to debate the pronunciation.
	John, it's okay.
	He challenged me.
	He sent a note.
	You can't pronounce my name and I get the biggest kick out of it.
	I'm going to say Sören Kersgaard.
	Okay, you can say whatever you want.
	And you're saying what?
	Sean Kersgaard.
	Sören Penn.
	Sir Brian...
	Wait, wait, wait.
	He has a 70-70, 73-73, which means we've got to do that.
	Right.
	Actually, I thought I put his call sign in there.
	I don't have it.
	He said, in honor of my sister and husband, I'd like some jobs karma.
	She likes to learn whether she has a job.
	Cutbacks.
	And he recently relocated, then decided he didn't like the new place, thus reverted to his previous job, all in one month.
	And a couple of 73...
	He got his 73, so...
	And we also have 73s from good old Sir Brian Green of...
	Harris?
	Harris?
	Brian Green of Harris.
	Well, let me give him a 73.
	Oops.
	So much for my great system.
	He's in Streamwood, Illinois.
	Mm-hmm.
	Yeah.
	73.
	Let's just shout it out.
	Yes.
	73.
	James Murray.
	73.
	James Murray in 71-11 Huntington Beach.
	Carl Penfield in Clarksburg, Maryland.
	71-10.
	James Moore in San Pablo, California.
	70.
	Oh, there's a douchebag on Carl.
	Carl here.
	Thanks for calling out Joe Young as a douchebag.
	Douchebag!
	Do some karma at the end of this thing.
	Okay, onward.
	James Moore in San Pablo, California, 70.
	Sir Borislav Marinoff in Trabuco Canyon, California, 63.
	Craig Dashnow in Ascot Vale, Victoria, Australia, 63.
	Jeffrey Sewell in Wyandotte, Michigan.
	56-78, 55-10 from Thomas Dennison in Duanesburg, New York.
	Andy Benz in St.
	Louis, Missouri.
	He becomes a knight today.
	It's about a birthday we got for Amanda Benz.
	It also completes his knighthood.
	Knighthood's everywhere.
	David Peet, and these are all $50 donors.
	There's not that many.
	David Peet in Aubrey, Texas.
	Darren Chapman in Abingdon, Oxfordshire, UK. Jean van der Lausche in Austin.
	Perfect.
	Nailed it.
	Anonymous in Broma, Sweden.
	Kevin Johnson in Phoenix, Arizona.
	Brian...
	What is this?
	Scosaro?
	Scosaro.
	Chattanooga, Tennessee.
	Corey McDonald in Richfield, Minnesota.
	Nuts.
	And Jason Deluzio in Chadsford, Pennsylvania, and finally the anonymous lesbian from Parts Unknown who also writes sanity on her check and made a few comments that the concert game doesn't give her a lot of money.
	She's sorry that donations are down.
	It's okay.
	We continue to press forward and we do our best.
	Work it as we can.
	And that's it?
	That's all she wrote.
	Let me give everybody the karma they requested.
	Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
	Let's vote for jobs!
	There you go.
	Thank you all very much.
	Also, people who...
	There were a couple of $7.11s I saw, by the way.
	Oh, and also I have to mention, because everyone's demands I mention, but it's under $50, so I can't say his name, but a guy...
	Let's see where it is.
	I think it's...
	Is it Hislop or another guy?
	They gave a...
	$22.22, I believe.
	It's Mr.
	Hislop.
	Facebook donation.
	Ah!
	This is the one where they want to make someone from the Facebook pleasure group a knight.
	Yes.
	Or dame.
	Right.
	Okay.
	How's that coming along?
	Well, they got it.
	They're getting there.
	And Mimi's running the show.
	I'm telling you.
	No, she's not.
	She's running the show.
	You're not on Facebook.
	I see what she's doing.
	Well, I told her that.
	She says she's not running the Social Citizen X is more or less behind it.
	And she's just maintaining decorum.
	Okay.
	That's what it's called.
	Got it.
	All right.
	That's called the Dvorak Syndrome.
	The Facebook group is a Dvorak, it's a No Agenda Facebook group that is about the show, and it's like 3,000 members, and they're going to donate every so often, whenever they can.
	For people who have the Facebook, there's one of the, I think she's a new, CJ I think is her name, and she's new, and she's just cranking out No Agenda stuff.
	Oh, yeah?
	Buttons and shirts and jewelry and, you know, clothing.
	Yeah, and it's good-looking stuff.
	Buttons.
	I don't even think she's selling it yet, but she keeps putting up pictures.
	I'm like, wow, I'd actually like to have that.
	That's pretty good-looking.
	Well, you get it.
	She'll send you some.
	No, she's going to put it on sale.
	I'll buy something from her.
	This is what she does for a living.
	Not necessarily making no agenda stuff, but...
	No, nobody has made a living from that.
	Including us, everybody.
	Dvorak.org slash NA.
	It's your birthday birthday.
	I'm going to watch it.
	Andrew Ben says happy birthday to his wife Amanda.
	She turned 35 on April 6th.
	Stuart Rushing, 60 on April 8th.
	Anonymous says happy birthday to Malachi Husk.
	And Jamie Luca says happy birthday to her husband, Sir Craig Luca.
	And we say happy birthday to everybody on that list.
	Courtesy of your friends, the staff, management, family here at the Best Podcast in the Universe.
	Two knightings today.
	Two completing their knightings.
	Andrew Benz, Stuart Rushing, if we can grab our swords here for a moment.
	Perfect.
	Come on up, gentlemen.
	Andrew and Stuart, both of you are now about to join the roundtable of the No Agenda Show with the Knights and Dames for your contributions and $1,000 or more to the best podcast in the universe.
	And I hereby pronounce the K-T, Sir Anderball and Knight of 10 CFR 50 Appendix B. For you, gentlemen, we have...
	Hookers and Blow, Rent Boys and Chardonnay, Johnny Walker and Green Label, Progressive Rock and Russian Imperial Stout, Root Beer and Pepperoni Pizza, Dos Equis and Dutch Dominatrix, Ass Cream and Bear Fillings, Vodka and Vanilla, Bong Hits and Bourbon, Spike Link Cider and Escorts, and of course, Mutton and Mead.
	Rings are in.
	Rings are in.
	Head over to noagenternation.com slash rings.
	Register, and Eric DeShield will get it out to you as soon as possible, because they are in.
	They're in.
	And thank you all.
	That's a plus.
	Thank you all so much.
	We got the Common Core report for this show?
	Oh, we need a...
	I wasn't ready for that.
	We need a Common Core jingle then, right?
	Do we?
	Oh, yeah, we do have a Common Core jingle.
	Common Core, whatever.
	No, it doesn't go anything like that.
	Yes, Common Core, Common Core.
	Everybody likes the Common Core.
	Where 2 plus 3 is approximately 4 in the Common Core.
	Yeah!
	We're going to go right into it.
	Jazzy.
	Pardon the interruption.
	At this time...
	Is this a nine-year-old kid?
	No, no.
	This is a woman who is hired as the common core coordinator in this school.
	And when they do the testing, she goes on the PA system, so it sounds like you're in communist China.
	Or in jail.
	Or in jail.
	And she announces this, and then she follows up, and she talks a little bit like an up-talker.
	And they discuss this with her.
	And the little girl made these comments, and people said, ah, she's a phony, blah, blah.
	And she predicted that there would be computer glitches, and this clip confirms it.
	Pardon the interruption.
	At this time, all 7th grade testing groups should begin testing.
	It's test time.
	Testing coordinator Brittany Ogden spent the day making sure children could log in.
	When you are the testing coordinator, you do a lot of moving around the building.
	So, for instance, today I've already taken 15,000 steps.
	While it went fairly smoothly, the first day was stressful.
	There were lots of computer glitches.
	Just being unfamiliar with how long it would take students to get into their custom locations, how long it would take us to read directions.
	And so everything kind of got pushed back.
	We had to alter our schedule.
	And I think just overall, students and staff being nervous.
	Nervous.
	That's it?
	Glitches.
	She took 15,000 steps.
	She's one of those dimwits that thinks that this is an important fact when she's being interviewed.
	15,000, because she has a pedometer on her feet.
	No, this is native advertising for the Apple Watch, clearly.
	No, because after they did this, it may have been native advertising for something.
	Because when she said 15,000 steps, the camera took a shot of her feet.
	Ha!
	I'm kidding.
	I'm kidding.
	Oh, that's genius.
	Where two plus three is approximately four in the Common Core.
	Yeah.
	Let's see.
	Let's go to Euroland for a moment.
	We haven't been there during today's show yet.
	Okay.
	One Euro land clip.
	I have two Euro land clips, both about Greece.
	Today is the day that Greece would no longer have any more money.
	And there was a fun little meeting, the Prime Minister of Greece.
	Greek.
	The Prime Minister of Greek land went over to Putin land and they had a little conversation.
	Of course, everyone is like, oh, what is he going to do?
	What's going to happen?
	What's Russia going to do?
	All eyes are on the Kremlin to see what transpires in a controversial meeting between the Greek and Russian leaders.
	The Greek Prime Minister is insisting he has not asked Moscow for any money to help meet debt repayments, saying he wants to work within the framework of the European Union.
	Alexa Tsipras today laid a wreath at the tomb of the unknown soldier in Moscow.
	Eyebrows were raised this week when Russian media hinted that President Putin may offer gas discounts and even new loans to Greece.
	A Russian minister has also said that Athens could be removed from Moscow's ban on Western food imports.
	This led to a warning from the European Parliament president to Greece to stick to the EU position on sanctions against Russia.
	I found this was actually interesting because we've talked about...
	Wait, wait.
	Yes.
	What was it specifically?
	I couldn't hear it.
	The food import ban?
	You couldn't hear any of that?
	No, I heard that.
	I just didn't understand what he said, what food specifically.
	Ah, the Russian food import ban as part of the...
	No, he said a product like olives or something.
	I don't think he said that.
	Oh, I thought he heard him say some specific thing.
	I don't think so.
	No.
	This is the problem.
	As we know, the tomato growers are not only receiving subsidy from the European Union for the losses they make by not shipping to Russia, but they are also shipping it to Turkey, having it relabeled, and then selling it to Russia.
	That works.
	Yeah.
	but this is an interesting point.
	Now you're really seeing what harm these sanctions are doing, of course, not just to Russia, but to other countries as well.
	But none of this really matters because the Greeks, they have a plan up their sleeve.
	They quid pro quo, so to speak.
	It's about $240 billion, I think, that they have to pay back to the IMF.
	How are they supposed to pay anything back when they're prevented from trading, free trading with the Russians who they trade with?
	That would be the logical question to ask.
	Yeah?
	Their answer is, we'll just get it from the Germans.
	Well, this is the thorniest of thorny issues.
	Greece is demanding reparations for the actions of Nazi Germany in Greece during World War II.
	The figure that they've put on the amount that's owed to them is a whopping 278.7 billion euros.
	Now, this isn't the first time that reparations have been discussed.
	Greek governments have done it in the past.
	But what's different about this is, Osirits have actually put a figure on it, finally.
	Numbers hadn't been talked about, but Prime Minister Alexis Tsipras had set a parliamentary committee to work to come up with the figures.
	And that's the number that they've come back with.
	Now, included in this nearly 279 billion euros is a 10.3 billion euro occupation loan.
	Now, that's a loan that Greek banks were forced to give to the Nazis during the Second World War.
	They want that back.
	Estimated just being over 10 billion euro.
	There's also the costs of repatriating stolen archaeological treasures that were taken from Greece and brought to Germany.
	All of those things, well, the Greek Parliament saying adds up to, I say, around 279 billion that they want back.
	It's worth mentioning that Greece has taken 240 billion euro so far in bailouts.
	They would actually be in the black on this deal if it ever went through.
	Amen.
	I like the idea.
	Oh, they're tricky.
	Oh, damn, those Greeks, I tell you.
	The Germans must be beside themselves.
	I don't think Angle is really happy.
	Hey, here's $250 billion.
	Okay, thanks.
	By the way, you know, you really owe us $250 billion.
	And my bike.
	Yeah, true.
	I thought that was nifty.
	It was very, very creative.
	I like it.
	This story will never end, of course.
	Well, we'll see what happens.
	This is the week.
	It's supposed to be very interesting.
	And, of course, the Mediterranean strategy that Putin has, which includes Syria, obviously, and Cyprus, let's remember that they have the port in Cyprus.
	Let's just get Greece, and I'm pretty sure the Russians will buy more infrastructure.
	I think they have LNG terminals, they have a refinery, they've got all kinds of stuff for oil, and all that will be sold on the cheap.
	So we'll see what happens.
	I like it.
	But I only have one story from Europe, and there's really nothing to comment too much on.
	I just thought it was fascinating, which is the outrageous robbery.
	Police in Britain have launched a manhunt in a jewelry heist of epic proportions.
	Over Easter weekend, a gang of thieves stole up to $300 million in cash and gems from a central repository.
	Jane Deeth of Independent Television News reports.
	All day, people slipped through the black doors looking for their gold and diamonds, watches and rings.
	Hatton Garden's safe deposit is where London puts its bling for safekeeping.
	Now millions of it is gone.
	Thieves in and out before security guards twigged.
	They should have had extra security, especially over the Easter holiday.
	But how did the robbers get in?
	A lot of attention and speculation has focused on the roof.
	It's thought they abseiled down the lift shaft to the vaults in the basement.
	Police say they used heavy cutting equipment to get inside.
	It is possible they spent the whole Easter weekend in there.
	The police weren't called until Tuesday morning.
	Apparently the alarm did go off on Friday.
	It's been suggested a security guard checked the front door, but no one checked inside.
	This vault's been hit before, in 1975, by armed robbers.
	They got away with loot worth a million pounds.
	This time it will be a lot, lot more.
	If the diamond merchants' boxes have been broken into and goods were stolen, then we will be talking about individual boxes containing millions of pounds worth of stock.
	Here they believe the valuables were stolen to order and that the gang and their bounty are longer.
	The robbery could turn out to be the largest in British history.
	Nice!
	Yeah, good work.
	300 million.
	Well, you can do a podcast or you can do that.
	Well...
	Just an idea.
	You have to be pretty talented to do that.
	Yeah.
	Yemen is...
	I got a cool little list here of the world's eight oil choke points, which gives you a little context around...
	Yeah.
	It's a cool little map.
	It's kind of what Rubicon ended up being about.
	The little 13th week cancelled show.
	It was on AMC and then it was on Amazon and now you can't get it.
	Oh no, of course not.
	So, here are the choke points.
	This is interesting.
	You might want to get your map.
	We kind of know this, John, but just for everybody else.
	The top choke points, the number one choke point, as in where ships move oil, is the Strait of Hormuz.
	Which, of course, is that little piece between Oman on one side and Iran on the other side.
	We've got the South Park fields over there, and that's obviously in the Gulf of Oman.
	17 million barrels of oil per day pass through that.
	Number two...
	This is the one that I've always had my eye on.
	It's the Strait of Malacca.
	And, of course, we're really big in the region.
	We moved our warship in there for the horrible...
	Was it a hurricane?
	It wasn't a hurricane.
	It was a...
	Yeah, the big storm.
	Yeah, big storm.
	Big storm over there.
	And of course, we have a lot of, we positioned a lot of assets when we were looking for MH17. We put them all in the Straits of Malacca, so we've got our big ships there.
	The Cape of Good Hope, 4.9 million barrels of oil a day.
	Then we've got the Danish Straits, the Suez Canal.
	But if you look way up at the top, what is the number one?
	Number one.
	Is there by Aden.
	The Gulf of Aden.
	Oh, where the Stargate is.
	The Stargate is there.
	And we now, besides the Stargate, I guess waiting for it to open, we have Chinese Navy vessels, Iranian ships, everybody's in the Gulf of Aden.
	And that, of course, is because of the Yemen problems, the Yemeni problems.
	We can't have that choke point cut off by anybody.
	Being from the future, I think we might see some interesting things happening with all of those different warships.
	We're there, for sure, right across the bay or the gulf there, the strait.
	We've got Djibouti.
	So we've got our eyes in the sky.
	It's fascinating to watch these things.
	Kind of see how it all comes together.
	Not much mention of that in any news lately.
	We just talk about Houthis in Iran, etc.
	Nobody cares about choke points.
	What we do need to care about is...
	They don't even know who Snowden is, apparently.
	The Boston bomber trial ended.
	Yes, guilty as charged.
	All 30 points.
	Now, as we discussed, the Sarnoff brothers' lawyer is her entire claim, and she's an appointed lawyer.
	He's not paying for it.
	It's pro bono.
	Yeah, and she's doing the job of an appointed lawyer.
	No, she's not.
	Bailing out.
	Yeah.
	Well, her claim to fame is getting people off the death penalty and into life imprisonment.
	This is what she does.
	This is why you hire her.
	She's famous for this.
	Right.
	She doesn't have anything to do with getting him off on the charges.
	Well, if she was, then she did a bad job because he was convicted.
	That's what you get for free.
	30 counts...
	We've talked about this to an extreme, but by the way, I'm predicting suicide.
	Let's listen to Judge Napolitano, who used to have a great show over there on Fox.
	He got a little too close to being good, and so they only bring him in once in a while.
	Here's his overview of the situation.
	Well, you know, the persistence of the guilty verdicts shows a consistent thinking on the part of the jury, and it's somewhat of a window into the jury's thinking with respect to the penalty phase.
	But the penalty phase trial will be radically different from the trial that just ended.
	And the trial that just ended, as brilliant and terrific as his chief counsel is, She didn't intercede very much.
	She presented next to no evidence, and she pretty much left the government roam with the ball.
	You'll see an entirely different trial now, where she will attempt to control what goes on in the courtroom by focusing in on his personal culpability, his personal duress, his personal, as she will argue, subservience to his brother.
	Those issues were explored in the first trial, but the jury was not compelled to rule on them, and she didn't present substantial evidence about it.
	And she will do so.
	Yeah, of course, because she didn't care.
	This is an egomaniac, this woman.
	Didn't ask any of the right questions.
	For instance, a question would be, hey, that video that this entire trial was based on, you know, the one where you see him put the backpack into the trash can?
	Why don't you show that to us?
	Conspicuously missing from any conversation whatsoever about this trial.
	And your great journalists have seemed to have developed amnesia about this as well.
	NPR, on the other hand, brought out, and this was surprising to me, Masha Gessen.
	She has written a book called The Brothers.
	Now, The Brothers, of course, they had ties to Chechnya and being radicalized and being part of the Chechnyan terrorists.
	Masha Gessen is a famous Putin hater.
	Famous Putin hater.
	And she popped up a lot on the show as well when Putin started to hate gays.
	You remember those days?
	When Putin used to hate gays?
	I think he still hates gays.
	Gays and dogs and all kinds of stuff.
	And dogs.
	He hates all kinds of stuff.
	Terrible dogs.
	So they brought her out for this interview on Fresh Air with Terry Gross.
	So tell me, what is self-radicalization?
	The defense is saying that Johar was following his brother Tamerlan, but unlike his brother, Johar was not a self-radicalized terrorist.
	What does the expression self-radicalized mean?
	Oh, finally!
	Finally, we get an answer.
	Interesting, it comes from Masha Gessen.
	Nobody knows.
	Oh.
	Wait a minute.
	Wait a minute.
	What is going on?
	I don't understand how that can be.
	I'm shocked.
	Shocked to find harmonica playing going on in here.
	Yes.
	Stop the show.
	You get Clip of the Day.
	Finally, he makes Clip of the Day, ladies and gentlemen.
	Yes.
	Clip of the Day.
	It's the only correct answer, ladies and gentlemen.
	Got me on that one.
	Nobody knows what self-radicalize means, and that's one of the weird things about the way that we talk about terrorism.
	We talk about radicalization as though it were a thing, as though you could sort of track it and identify it, and that's not the case.
	And then we've added this other layer, which is self-radicalization.
	Originally, radicalization was supposed to mean that there was an organization that sort of took you through the stages.
	And then when it turned out that some people just came to terrorism by themselves, this new thing called self-radicalization showed up.
	No one knows what it means.
	Fantastic.
	Well, at least she's telling the truth.
	We don't know what it means, although Johnson thinks it's somebody who was in their basement reading the web, and then you're self-radicalized.
	I think there's self-something else going on with a guy reading the web in the basement.
	Very good.
	Here is Masha now about the U.S. justice system.
	So since you covered the trial, were you there throughout the trial?
	This, by the way, is a very good question.
	I've been in and out of Boston.
	I've been in and out of Boston.
	Doesn't that qualify?
	Wasn't I covering the trial?
	I covered most of the trial, I think.
	No!
	You weren't there!
	What's your analysis of the trial?
	Do you think that the prosecution and the defense did a good job?
	Did you learn what you hoped to do?
	Oh, those are two very different questions.
	Oh, brother.
	Give her the hook!
	I mean, they are amazing.
	I've covered a lot of trials, and it's absolutely the best trial I've ever seen in my life.
	Even though she didn't cover it, even though she wasn't there, she was in and out of Boston.
	Best trial ever.
	Wait, no defense was put up for this guy at all?
	And this is somehow, what is she, an advocate of kangaroo courts?
	Yes.
	The choice of witnesses, sort of the dramaturgy, the timing of the prosecution's case was unbelievably good.
	But it is not...
	Structurally, it's not the role of the American justice system to find the truth.
	Hey, lady, you're living here by the graces of the American public letting you be here, on your green card, whatever you are.
	Careful with what you say.
	The American justice system administers punishment.
	It does not conduct inquests, and it does not find facts.
	Oh.
	So we were hoping, and those of us who have been interested in the case, that's a lot of us, we were hoping that some facts would emerge from the trial.
	Oh.
	That as the FBI presented its case for the prosecution, we would learn things that were conspicuously...
	Absent.
	Yeah, like a normal trial.
	Like defense?
	That we didn't know before.
	There were some gaping holes in our knowledge.
	One of them is where and when were the bombs made.
	The FBI agents who testified at the trial admitted that they don't know where the bombs were made.
	If they don't know where the bombs were made, that also means that they don't know If anybody else was involved.
	They don't know anything.
	This is fresh air.
	I'm Terry Gross.
	Thank you, Terry Gross.
	Well, and this kind of falls into just briefly the six-week cycle.
	And JW, one of our producers, he said, oh man, I think you really need to look at the full complaint against those two crazy women that the FBI got because they were going to blow something up.
	And this is in regards to the anarchist cookbook.
	If you read, and I put it in the show notes, of course, for you to read at your leisure, it's about 29 pages.
	The FBI agent actually gave these women the anarchist cookbook.
	What?
	Yes.
	So they had an undercover cop, of course, was honeypotting them, trapping them, entrapping them.
	And then giving them the cookbook and said, look, they had this cookbook!
	Yep.
	Yep.
	Holy crap, that's disgusting.
	Here we go.
	The FBI agent found any discussion regarding protests, electricity, chemistry, propane, or cookware as highly suspicious.
	Because they were just talking about propane and cookware.
	No, they got a new can of propane for the outside barbecue.
	You know us.
	I mean, they're probably doing kebabs.
	What's interesting is that none of those actual conversations were recorded by the FBI. But it is his testimony from the special agent.
	Oh, so we just take it out of context.
	Yes.
	And the pressure cooker.
	Heaven forbid.
	And the pressure cooker.
	The pressure cooker, which they had...
	This Valenzas, one of these women, she received the gift, the pressure cooker, as a gift from someone.
	And here it is.
	The undercover officer explains, she, quote, joked about cooking something in the pressure cooker, then laughed and added, food.
	Which is, of course, a reference to explosive material.
	Code for a bomb!
	The word food is hereby outlawed.
	Do not mention...
	Oh, don't say the F word, man.
	Wow.
	Get away with this.
	Of course they get away with it because nobody cares.
	No.
	The media doesn't care.
	Nobody follows up.
	It's too much work to read this document.
	I know.
	Let's just go along with what they tell us to say because we have...
	It's about 6 o'clock happy hour.
	Yeah.
	I know.
	It's just disgusting that nobody says, hold on, this is out of order what you're doing.
	Along with this comes that 34-day cycle.
	The Anarchist Cookbook, the anecdote, is the war.
	That's outrageous.
	Yeah, he gave it to her.
	Hey, you're looking for some material?
	Read this.
	Oh, she has a copy of the Anarchist Cookbook.
	Oh no, we can't have that!
	My phone, schmy phone!
	Yay!
	I got a little tech news for you, John.
	Yeah, we're going to our third hour.
	That's right.
	No, we're not.
	We're going to warn the affiliates.
	No, don't warn any affiliates.
	We have to warn the listeners.
	That's all we have to do.
	Less than 10 minutes to go.
	That's right.
	10 minutes to go.
	In the tech news segment today, a retraction from the best podcast in the universe.
	Uh-oh.
	We made a mistake, an error?
	I made an error.
	And it has been pointed out to me, and I apologize profusely for this.
	I mentioned a couple of different apps that had some secure communication capabilities.
	I mentioned two.
	The one I'm using with Void Zero is called Signal, and that is indeed a safe app.
	Okay.
	You and I talked about the Telegram app and actually called it an outstanding product, and we could not have been more wrong.
	Well, you're the one that I... You don't use we in this context.
	Well, if Snowden can do it, I can do it.
	We have a mouse in your pocket?
	Yeah, we got several different emails from dudes named Ben, we got Bill in Osaka, a lot of people...
	Okay, I'm pulling it off my...
	You should pull it off right now.
	Now, so the one that's good is Signal?
	Signal, yes.
	And Telegraph is no good because they rolled their own crypto for this.
	And the first rule of cryptography is don't roll your own crypto.
	Why not?
	Because it's not the open source crypto like everyone uses.
	It's their own crypto, their own secret crypto.
	This cannot be...
	Even Steve Gibson warned about Telegraph.
	And if Steve Gibson's going to warn us about it, I'm all in with Steve.
	Well, he tends to be nutty about this stuff, so yes.
	So, please do not use that product.
	This has been a public service announcement.
	Public service.
	From the best podcast in the universe.
	The best podcast in the universe.
	Kicker for me is, and I didn't know he was involved in it, we have this pedo bear scandal, Prince Andrew, Bill Clinton.
	Oh yeah, damn it, I almost had a clip for that too.
	Yeah, I got a clip.
	I got a clip that just blew me away.
	Okay.
	Alan Dershowitz is also implicated in this.
	Yes.
	He was being grilled.
	By Matt.
	By Matt Lauer.
	By the way, over the years I've appreciated Matt Lauer more and more.
	You know, I know Matt Lauer when he worked at VH1. Yeah.
	You think he's a dick?
	Yeah, kind of.
	Well, I don't want to say that he's not a dick, but I appreciate him.
	I think he does a reasonably good job.
	And so Alan Dershowitz has been implicated in this.
	Is this the guy who had the house on the island and was flying everybody in and they're all banging underage hookers?
	A bunch of rich guys.
	They're all flying back and forth to this island with this douchebag who apparently had a bunch of underage women there.
	Hookers?
	Cookers, underage cookers, and they're all having the time of their lives, and now Dershowitz got called out by one of them, and he says it's bullshit, and he goes on and he seems sincere.
	Well, when you have the little clip where he says, I put an affidavit against the truth, right?
	Wow, you know, you have done some horrible things to me in the past.
	This has got to be, I mean, I don't know why you do that.
	Why would you take my thunder?
	You've done this to me.
	Let's talk about what this judge says and does not say, okay?
	The judge says that the claims made by Jane Doe number three against you and Prince Andrew and others are not material to the case that they are trying to join against the U.S. government.
	What the judge does not say is whether the claims made by Jane Doe number three are true or untrue.
	Having said that, what's your reaction?
	Well, I feel completely legally vindicated.
	We filed a motion asking him to strike these claims as irrelevant and improperly put in the lawsuit.
	He can't determine whether it's true or not.
	He hasn't heard evidence.
	He hasn't heard witnesses.
	I've submitted a sworn affidavit categorically denying the truth.
	There will be an opportunity for us now to...
	It's not as good now that you ruined it.
	No, no.
	I improved it because it allowed people to anticipate and spot the blunder.
	Oh, okay.
	Wow.
	That was a terrible blunder he made.
	I don't know.
	And then I watched the whole thing with that in mind because he went on and on and on and never stopped talking.
	And I don't know.
	I don't know what happened.
	The whole thing seems sketchy.
	And I don't know why Durstowicz would be there in the first place, the whole thing.
	He says he was legally vindicated, too.
	He never said he was vindicated.
	Oh, yeah.
	Oh, yeah.
	Legally.
	Of course.
	Well, I have the whole interview in there, but it's...
	Yeah, you play it.
	No, I'm not going to play it.
	It's not funny now, but you ruined it.
	First, you scolded yourself that you didn't clip it, and then you ruined my clip.
	I'm sorry.
	Okay.
	That will never happen again, ever.
	I'm okay, then.
	I'm okay now.
	I'm good.
	I'm good.
	Matt and Marie, no.
	It's not all that funny.
	No, Matt and Marie is no good.
	They had a little kerfuffle back and forth about this op-ed that Kissinger and George Shultz wrote in the Wall Street Journal.
	Which, by the way, people, do not send me links to the Wall Street Journal.
	Steck does a good job.
	He sends me...
	That's because you can thank me for that.
	Thank you.
	Steck used to send me these links.
	I said, I can't read the Wall Street Journal.
	They won't have to subscribe or something.
	Clip it.
	So he clips it and then sends it.
	People all over the place are saying, hey, check out this article in the Wall Street Journal.
	I can't.
	If you go to the Wall Street Journal more than once, you can't go on again.
	The New York Times is similar.
	In fact, it should be with all things.
	If you want to send something, clip it.
	It's cut and paste.
	There you go.
	Chicago Med.
	This is a new show?
	To pilot?
	Oh no, I haven't seen this.
	Chicago Med.
	Yes, yes.
	What's the guy's name who does all those shows?
	Dick Wolf.
	Dick Wolf, yes.
	Uh, Chicago Med.
	Featuring a terrorist with a hand grenade in the, uh, in the emergency room.
	If you're here because of the ammonia leak, I'm gonna need you on this side of the room.
	There's an ammonia leak, you see.
	When I say so, if you're here because of the flu or something non-life-threatening, I'm gonna...
	Sir, not yet, please.
	I need everyone...
	You thought Ebola was a nightmare?
	I am the apocalypse!
	Except all Americans, you're all dead in two weeks!
	- Oh, I love it.
	I love the woman's scream right at the beginning.
	That was dubbed in.
	Yeah, so we got Ebola.
	He was yelling about Ebola being real, and then he threw in a great Ali Akbar!
	And with a hand grenade there in the...
	Man, I feel bad I missed the show.
	Ali Akbar!
	Play this last clip of mine because I don't know what it is.
	Okay.
	Foundation for a Secure and Prosperous America, which is a group.
	It's a pressure group.
	They had some spokesperson on talking about something, but I don't remember it.
	The Senate has tough new sanctions on Iran.
	President Obama.
	You need to talk about it?
	Stop.
	You have to play it from the beginning.
	Rand Paul rolls out his presidency.
	I'm going to run for president.
	Within minutes, this group called Americans for a Secure and Prosperous America run a campaign, anti-Rand Paul campaign ad.
	Ugh.
	Out of the blue, just boom.
	Magical how that happens, isn't it?
	The Senate has tough new sanctions on Iran.
	President Obama says he'll veto them, and Rand Paul is standing with him.
	Rand Paul supports Obama's negotiations with Iran, and he doesn't understand the threat.
	You know, it's ridiculous to think that they're a threat to our national security.
	Rand Paul is wrong and dangerous.
	Tell him to stop siding with Obama, because even one Iranian bomb would be Disaster.
	Disaster.
	It's good.
	I like that.
	Who comes up with these stupid ass and these ideas?
	I like the sound effects.
	It's pretty good.
	In a world where Rand Paul is president.
	Who wants a bomb?
	A rock bar.
	Fantastical.
	Alright, John.
	So we don't go into hour number three.
	I think we should stop here.
	I'm all for it.
	You're all for it.
	Thank you all very much for participating in our little program here that we call the No Agenda Show.
	We are here twice a week, Thursdays and Sundays.
	Please remember us at Dvorak.org slash NA for it is only you who keeps the program running.
	The show is done for you and sponsored by you.
	That's correct.
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	Spirited show.
	And I will have, on Sunday, another update from the super duper group of uber spies.
	Good.
	I got another Nigerian, so I'm saving that for Sunday.
	I got a parcel of the whole recording.
	I would like to hear what the Nigerian has to say for himself.
	You betcha, you betcha.
	Coming to you from FEMA Region 6 here in the Crackpot Condo, downtown Austin Tejas.
	In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley, where our beautiful clouds are now gone, and we're back to the dreary Desert-like conditions.
	I'm John C. Dvorak.
	We'll be back on Sunday, right here on No Agenda.
	Adios, mofos.
	There are four things I want the public to know.
	First, I thought it would be easier during my four years as Secretary of State.
	Obviously, it hasn't worked out that way.
	Second, I opted for convenience, and I think most people understand that.
	Third, no one wants their yoga routines made public.
	And fourth, what difference at this point does it make?
	I'm shocked, shocked to find six-week cycles going on around here.
	Hello!
	It was worth it.
	It was worth it.
	The best podcast in the universe.
	Adios, mofo.
	Amen.
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