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	Six-pound rodents.
	Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak.
	It's Thursday, December 18th, 2014, and time for your Gitmo Nation media assassination episode 679.
	This is no agenda.
	Refusing to buckle to North Korean hacker threats.
	Continuing our broadcast from FEMA Region 6, the capital of the drone, Star State, and Austin Tejas.
	In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley, where we're all gonna die from the Koreans.
	North Koreans, that is.
	I'm John C.
	It's a crackpot and buzzkill in the morning.
	Ah, but that is not the top news of the day, John.
	That is just not the top news.
	Well, I have a prelude clip, then, if you're going to have the top news.
	Do you know what the top news is?
	Yeah, well, it doesn't make any difference.
	It's an evergreen prelude.
	Is it called Evergreen Prelude, by any chance?
	It's called another Parliament clip.
	Ah, one of my favorites.
	Christmas!
	I'm sorry, are you yelling at me?
	I'm announcing Mr.
	Adam Curry and then they're all booing and cheery and jeering.
	Somehow the mix didn't work.
	Try it again.
	It doesn't work.
	It's just not working.
	No, it's not working.
	Ah, John.
	Woke up this morning.
	Email box filled.
	I'm sorry?
	I woke up this morning, my email box, my inbox was filled.
	Okay.
	All kinds of concerned citizens.
	What were they concerned about?
	Apparently, I'm divorced again.
	Two-page spread in the newspaper today.
	Wow.
	Yeah.
	Where did this news come from?
	I don't know.
	It's interesting because there's no attribution to any sources who have this information.
	Well, you know what this always sounds like when something like this happens to me, what it sounds like?
	What?
	Somebody recycled an old newspaper, or they read an old...
	I don't know if you've ever done this.
	I think everybody has, but you go on the Internet, or somebody sends you a link to an article, and you read this, and you say, oh my God!
	And you forget to look at the dates, man.
	2011.
	So this was...
	What was it?
	A couple, like seven weeks ago, that Gossip Mag had the Photoshop photo of me and Mickey on the front.
	Oh, it looks like they're getting divorced.
	And you look like a goofball.
	Yeah, well, they've done more of that now.
	It's unbelievable.
	From the same series, I look even goofier.
	You look even goofy.
	How can that be?
	Yeah, it's a profile shot.
	I mean, it's all over the Twitter, so you should see it.
	I haven't seen it.
	But the thing is, there's no attribution, not saying who has this information.
	They haven't talked to Mickey or I. It's a two-page spread.
	And I'm convinced this is the boomerang effect.
	Mickey has a show coming up in January, a solo show, so she's setting up interviews.
	That's kind of the way it works.
	Why don't you get the boomerang part?
	When you put energy into the press, it boomerangs back.
	It always does.
	Oh, I see what you're thinking.
	It always does.
	But this one is really good because even though this article is, swear to God, if you read it, there is nothing in there that has any fact or any source of any information.
	Just, oh, it's being talked about.
	And, uh, I have good friends.
	You can't find anything by searching.
	I have good friends, uh, emailing me.
	Oh, man, I'm so sorry to hear this.
	But they can't tell you where this came from?
	This doesn't make zero sense.
	Listen, the thing is, everyone believes it.
	My own sister's like, oh, no, I can't believe you're getting divorced again.
	I said, did you read the fucking thing?
	What was it that they read?
	The same thing, what I just told you.
	Just what, a bunch of random tweets?
	No, the headline in the paper is Adam and Mickey getting divorced.
	That's the headline.
	No, this is the newspaper, the big one.
	Huh.
	Jeez, what is wrong with these people?
	They can't even get a story straight.
	Did they call for attribution or confirmation?
	No, no, no.
	Well, of course, why bother?
	Of course, now everybody's calling.
	Hey, we read this thing in the newspaper.
	I'm not going to call you back.
	I'm not going to feed the machine.
	That's funny.
	So that was my big news.
	And then there was all this other stuff.
	That's your big news.
	What?
	I'm getting divorced?
	Huh?
	Huh?
	And by the way, how stupid are they?
	Don't they know that Mickey cannot...
	She'd be stupid to divorce me now.
	We have to have the two-year interview with Department of Homeland Security so she has the green card in the pocket.
	Yeah.
	That makes no sense.
	No.
	It doesn't.
	After that, yeah, it does.
	Yeah.
	I understand living with a podcaster in Austin, Texas is not, you know.
	So what does your husband do?
	He's a podcaster.
	In Austin.
	In Austin, Texas?
	Yeah.
	What is that podcast?
	What is that even?
	What is that?
	Can you make money doing that?
	What is that?
	Well, you know where you have VJs?
	I don't think so.
	Where VJs are kind of like the lowest rung of the show business ladder.
	Actually, above that is Curable Lepers.
	And then underneath VJs were podcaster companies.
	Podcasters.
	And then they're curable lepers.
	It would make sense.
	Man.
	Anyway, before we get started, thank you for the point.
	You invented both of these categories of show business.
	I know, isn't that great?
	Yeah, you've done two.
	Most of you have not done any.
	So I spent a lot of time in the past few days analyzing, really taking a very, very close look.
	And you brought it up, and I have to admit, John C. Dvorak, you were right.
	Okay.
	I think Fox News does have a couple of transsexuals working for him.
	Yeah.
	How was the timing?
	You took me in the wrong direction.
	You got me.
	How was my timing?
	How was that?
	It was pretty good, right?
	Yeah, it was excellent.
	Chak Semer, everybody.
	Happy Hanukkah.
	I think that's what you say.
	Chak Semer.
	I don't know what that even means.
	I don't know.
	It was Happy Hanukkah.
	Because there's a war on Christmas, you see.
	That's why.
	Okay.
	It's a war on Christmas.
	You didn't know this?
	It's a war in the public.
	Well, yeah.
	I just...
	I have so many...
	I just couldn't stop yesterday.
	It would not stop the crazy that was just happening.
	What?
	With this Sony thing.
	Oh, it's out of control.
	I've got way too many clips.
	My clips are revealing.
	I have a theory.
	Can I just follow on the war on Christmas?
	I'll just come in later.
	Because it's a war on Christmas, I just wanted to play a clip from Alan Dershowitz.
	On CNN. Now, Alan Dershowitz, he's a...
	Is he a divorce attorney?
	No, he's just a regular attorney?
	No, he's a professor of law.
	Oh.
	Jew.
	And troublemaker.
	And Jew.
	Yes, he's a Jew.
	The world will be full of fear.
	Remember the 11th of September, 2001.
	We recommend you to keep yourself distant from the places at that time.
	And if your house is nearby, you'd better leave.
	So this is a direct threat of physical violence at moviegoers and people who go to the mall.
	This is also an attack on Christmas.
	What?
	It's the Jew with the...
	Wait for his explanation.
	Because Christmas is not, you know, the day that the Son of God was born in the manger.
	No, no, no.
	That's not what Christmas is, according to Dershowitz.
	Let's be very clear about that.
	Because one of the reasons Sony had no choice but to pull is this could affect Christmas shopping.
	This could affect the way Christmas Day is celebrated.
	It could affect not only this movie, but any movie playing in the same complex.
	So this is a big deal.
	In a way, that's more serious than the hacking.
	Because if you can simply send an email and bring a movie to a hall, that's an incredible statement.
	But the thing I think people need to realize is that Responding to that has a cost, too.
	Backing away has a cost.
	We've learned that the government is going to name North Korea as the culprit.
	So you said you're not a terrorism expert, but state-sponsored terrorism?
	This is clearly state-sponsored terrorism.
	Clearly.
	Clearly.
	The good news out of all this, I'm back in conversation with Uncle Don.
	Yeah, and he probably has some clue that this is bogus as a North Korean thing.
	Well, of course he knows it's bogus.
	The problem is he really...
	I've had to educate him over the past 18 hours on how bogus this is.
	And people have been reading news about hacking and cyber.
	They don't know.
	The reports are...
	When someone goes wrong, it's a glitch.
	I mean, there's no actual reporting.
	This is a glitch.
	You sent a link that I did put in the show notes.
	There's a couple of excellent analyses about why this is absolutely not a shoe-in for North Korea.
	This is what I sent Don.
	I sent him a number of things.
	Also, I gave him some advice, which I'd like to share my advice with you to the former CIA, former ambassador to South Korea.
	Ironically.
	Very ironically.
	This is Carolyn Balin.
	She is from Chatham House in the UK. She is an expert of sorts in the cyberness.
	I like what she has to say, especially a little point that I'm going to expand on regarding Sony.
	On the one hand, you could make the argument that they used the same attack code that was used in 2013 that North Korea is blamed for, and this was an attack on South Korea.
	On the other hand, actually...
	Yeah, I'm sorry.
	What's up?
	You sure this isn't the girl who takes the flute and pushes it up?
	That's what it sounds like.
	No, it's not Bandcamp Girl.
	Bandcamp Girl.
	No, this is not Bandcamp Girl.
	In this one time, at Bandcamp, I stuck a flute in my pussy.
	You're right, she may be that girl.
	That's disturbing.
	Hmm, okay.
	Attack code is just bought and sold quite regularly.
	There's a whole underground cyber criminal trade where you can buy and sell attack codes.
	So I'm not sure.
	That was initially why we accused North Korea.
	But I'm not sure that that is actually such a valid argument.
	You can basically buy vulnerabilities.
	You can buy even automated attack toolkits.
	So all of this information can be purchased online in this underground black market.
	So you can't really attribute it to North Korea.
	There's a lot of espionage just carried out for corporate purposes.
	Exactly.
	I mean, there's always hacktivists, for example.
	There are people who just engage in cyber attacks for fun because it's there and because we have so much information online that's not well protected.
	And so as a result, you have people that are just engaging in this.
	And then it's also very lucrative if you can steal secrets about a company.
	And you're also seeing some extortion as well.
	So you could...
	Steal information about a company and then you could extort that company and say, if you don't pay us this amount of money, then we will release this information.
	And we've seen that this was extremely damaging and extremely embarrassing for Sony.
	You also just simply have hacktivists who engage in cyberattacks.
	You know for fun or maybe to prove even a sort of political purpose so you could imagine a situation where there was a disgruntled employee for example at Sony or a group of disgruntled employees Who were therefore interested in getting back at the company?
	No I watched your Twitch show with the film girl.
	By the way, if we could just teach her how to shut up once in a while, it wouldn't have been a bad show.
	She likes to talk.
	No, but she's one of these people who just won't stop.
	She's like, I got the microphone.
	I'm going to keep talking.
	I'm not going to...
	Diary of the mouth, girl.
	Shut up once in a while.
	And I was waiting for someone to say it.
	Leo came kind of close.
	There have been 7,000 layoffs at Sony this year, including the entire digital division.
	No one is looking at this very obvious point or fact that...
	It doesn't fit the narrative.
	Are you kidding me?
	The entire digital division.
	This is like a whole room full of dudes named Ben...
	And I'm sure one or two of them were Earth-like.
	Yeah, exactly.
	This is so obviously something that's happened from the inside out.
	Well, this note I sent to be put in the show notes is an analysis of why it's probably not North Korean.
	I want to just mention a couple of the items they pushed in here.
	One, the most important to me, which was their number five item, which is the attackers only latched onto the...
	Only latched onto the interview, or the movie, after the media did.
	The film was never mentioned by the GOP, which is something of peace.
	How ironic.
	It was never mentioned right at the start of the campaign.
	It was only after a few people started speculating in the media.
	Exactly.
	And that was, and then they, oh yeah, that's good.
	That'll keep them off of our tracks.
	But then they, at the beginning of this note, I just want to make a few things.
	Everyone's eager to blame, I'm reading again, blame, pin it on North Korea.
	However, it's unlikely.
	One, the broken English looks deliberately bad and doesn't exhibit any of the classic comprehension mistakes you actually expect to see in Konglish times.
	I.e., it reads like an English speaker pretending to be bad at writing English.
	And the fact that the code was written on a PC with Korean locale and language actually makes it less likely to be North Korea.
	Not least because they don't speak traditional Korean in North Korea.
	They speak their own dialect, and traditional Korean is forbidden.
	Yes, it is.
	This is one of the key things that's made communication with North Korea difficult.
	And there's just point after, in this memo, which was in the show notes, there's point after point after point, including a lot of little small points that indicate, by any stretch of the imagination, it's not North Korea.
	This is a government, a U.S. government ploy to just once again blame North Korea for no apparent reason.
	Except, of course, you make this movie deal, which, you know, they didn't like the idea of the movie, but...
	And here's what I told Don.
	I said, Don, this is new.
	This is a shift because the American public really doesn't care.
	You can look at the polls.
	You can look at, you know, survey after survey.
	They had a nuclear, nuclear, whatever, human rights.
	But who cares?
	But when you go after Seth Rogen and James Franco and our entertainment business, everybody loses their collective shit.
	I said, Don, this needs to be countered.
	It is a perfect...
	Here's my advice to him.
	This is a big opportunity.
	Now that we have...
	I see that you have a couple of clips from Aaron Burnett, so we'll have to see.
	But, I mean, Dan Rather was on.
	Carney was on.
	Kevin Mitnick was on.
	I mean, everyone's coming out to condemn North Korea.
	So this is now...
	And, of course, people are paying attention.
	Hey, man, we can't...
	We're going to ruin Christmas, man.
	We can't go to the movies on Christmas, man.
	And it's an attack on free speech, an attack on the First Amendment.
	Everyone's going completely nuts.
	I said, Don, it's very simple.
	If you can, through your channels, make the following happen, it would be the biggest coup in political tradecraft history.
	Kim Jong-un has to come out and say...
	Hey, why don't we premiere this movie here in Pyongyang?
	This could be funny.
	And he should smoke a blunt with Seth Rogen.
	See, if we can get that to happen...
	Well, there you go.
	Right off the rails.
	I didn't mention the blunt thing.
	And he took my advice.
	He's listening.
	He's really listening.
	They're not going to do that.
	Ever.
	But that is what should be happening.
	It's so obvious.
	This is so ludicrous.
	Carl Bernstein!
	It's unbelievable the people who were on CNN. I have a couple clips.
	I don't know if you want to move to yours.
	Play what you have.
	I have another thesis altogether.
	Okay.
	Let me...
	That's good.
	I finally figured out what was going on here with this.
	Okay.
	Well, then I'll wrap my bits up.
	No, no.
	I want to hear your clips because they'll segue into mine.
	I guarantee it.
	So, on the show, Dan Rather with Fareed Zakaria...
	And Dan Rather's actually kind of good.
	He's like, hey man, we don't actually have any proof yet, but these guys are so serious about this.
	I'm sorry.
	No, go ahead.
	I was going to say, and by the way, the way it's stated that the...
	The FBI is now 99% certain, and they're going to come up with an announcement.
	The FBI, no less.
	Yeah, the FBI. But apparently, last night they were talking about the White House Counterterrorism Council, who were saying, although I've looked at their website, I haven't seen any actual announcement.
	Anyway, back to the, this is a real news guy.
	Two of them, and a real, and Fareed Zaghari, a real douchebag.
	But these are news guys.
	There is.
	Cyber war works both ways.
	These guys need internet access to operate, and there's probably a way to get back in.
	Good point.
	Yes.
	Let's just recap for a second.
	Fareed Zakaria, clearly an expert in TCP, IP, and border gateway protocol, thinks there's probably a way to reverse this and get back in.
	Idiot.
	What's he talking about?
	He doesn't know what he's talking about.
	They're just loving this.
	It's us to operate and there's probably a way to get back in.
	The point is we need to respond.
	It now appears.
	We certainly need to respond, but we've learned not to rush.
	You don't have to immediately do something.
	Think it through.
	What are our options in a counter-cyber attack on them?
	What are our options in the banking, as I mentioned earlier?
	What are the options for showing it?
	You say Walmart and Target might not handle the DVDs?
	This is another big narrative.
	Hey, man, we've got to get this thing out.
	We have to release it.
	We should release it digitally, free for everyone to see, so we can show our American prowess, because we won't have our entertainment industry threatened by no...
	No one!
	Please, take American servicemen and women and your families, take all of your flags down and scrub your social networks, because ISIS might come to chop your head off.
	But man, when it comes to threatening our entertainment industry, we will stop at nothing.
	They might not, but they might.
	But finding a way to get this movie out, as one man's opinion, is now imperative.
	We have to find a way...
	It's a case of national security.
	We must get this movie out quickly.
	Have this movie shown in the United States or will be blackmailed constantly by one regime after another all around the world.
	We can't have our movies being blackmailed by one regime.
	Which is what gets the point you made, Freed, which is the deadly serious nature of this threat, the September 11th-style attacks.
	That is deadly serious.
	Then you get back to the fact that they're doing all of this over a comedy that had a comedic assassination of the North Korean leader.
	And people say, you're willing to risk war because you don't want that movie to come out?
	It doesn't matter whether the movie is silly or good or bad or tasteless.
	Fascinating.
	The point is, it's freedom of expression.
	It's yes.
	And you cannot be intimidated.
	And as you very rightly pointed out, what is the message ISIS is going to take from this?
	What is the message ISIS? Who knows what ISIS will do next?
	Man, we might have to shut down Homeland.
	Oh my God!
	Claim to be outraged by almost everything, you know, cartoon and this or that.
	Are they going to view this and say, well, this is very easy.
	We just threaten these guys and they'll claim it.
	And the message cannot be appeasement.
	That's why I say calculated response based on hard evidence.
	We have time to make a response, but respond we have to.
	The United States cannot appease.
	Thank you.
	It's fantastic!
	Outrageous.
	And let me ask you a question.
	Well, I'll bring it up later, but...
	This is an outrageous situation how the media has just gone in nuts.
	But everyone is buying it.
	That's why it's so great.
	We have Dan Rather.
	It's Dan fucking Rather.
	This is because they've got...
	I don't know if he's...
	He's pretty old.
	I don't think he's having a lot of sex.
	But...
	Here's another note from the memo.
	Who is?
	I'm divorcing.
	I don't have sex either.
	It's clear from the hard-coded passwords in the malware, which is right there as a giveaway, that whoever wrote it had extensive knowledge of Sony's internal architecture and access to key passwords.
	Of course!
	This inside job is very...
	It makes an inside job.
	It's very embarrassing.
	And your point was well made, not understood on the Twitch show.
	You said the only thing that's real news here is that...
	And this, by the way, is right out of the Unabomber's manifesto.
	This is what you get with technology.
	Okay?
	And this is just the beginning.
	And a lot of this going on that is not talked about.
	But now it's entertainment.
	And we know the stars.
	And now it's now...
	Whoa!
	Wait a minute.
	So this is great.
	In fact, so great...
	That we had people coming out promoting their businesses.
	Super hacker Kevin Mitnick.
	Live via satellite everybody.
	So Kevin, help us understand the sophistication of this attack.
	If hackers can cause this level of havoc, what else can they do?
	Could they take out a power grid or damage our banking system?
	Quite a stretch, by the way, from a couple of emails and a movie trailer to, oh, all of a sudden, to take out the power grid.
	There's already been attacks on critical infrastructure where, allegedly, the Chinese have been able to get in.
	And this is what I do for a living.
	Companies actually hire me to break into their networks and their systems to test their security.
	Oh, there you go.
	And amazingly, our success rate's about 100%.
	I mean, it's not hard to break into a major company these days, especially one with Sony, because their attack surface is so huge because they have so many systems to attack out on the Internet.
	So it's really hard to defend against these attacks, and until the security industry matures and comes up with better technologies for companies to use, I think this is going to happen again and again.
	Thank you, and your check is in the mail.
	They bring in Jay Carney, former spokeshole for the administration, who turned right around and became a CNN expert shill.
	And he is not, he's just, he's not sugarcoating anything.
	What can the U.S. do, Jay?
	Well, I don't think the U.S. can do anything directly.
	I think President Obama and other leaders should speak out for the First Amendment, should discourage actions.
	First Amendment?
	John, our First Amendment is under attack!
	Under attack!
	Like the one that Sony took and theaters took that basically caved to these kinds of threats.
	I think that the suggestion mentioned earlier that Sony should have and could still, despite its announcement today, make the film available digitally so that people are safe in their own homes when they watch it.
	I think that's what they should do because right now you have a bunch of hackers in North Korea and an illegitimate rogue regime in North Korea basically deciding what Americans and viewers around the world can watch.
	My goodness, unlike the FCC. Yeah, the FCC doesn't do the same thing.
	Really.
	So, and now I want to definitely hand it to you, but just a couple points I want to make.
	The decision to not show the movie was based on the email that said, in broken English, don't ref.
	Do you remember 9-11?
	Well, you might not want to go to the movie theater.
	Which was translated by all the pundits to a 9-11 type attack, which was the exact words they all used.
	And 9-11 type attack, every time I heard it, I said, what are you going to do, hijack an airplane and crash it into the theater?
	Exactly.
	If that...
	The United States is going to respond to anything, and if they really believe that this is North Korea, that is an act of war, that kind of language, not a terrorist threat.
	But of course the President is not going to respond to that because it's bullcrap.
	Well, here's the problem.
	They've dug themselves a hole.
	Yes.
	Which is they now have determined it's North Korea.
	So the real criminals here, the irked...
	The irked ex-employees.
	They're off the hook because you can't go back now and say, well, it was an irritated...
	After all this, too many people are in on it.
	Everyone's making money.
	The ratings are through the roof.
	Mitnick's got contracts.
	Yeah, everybody's doing well.
	So they have to essentially keep the blame on North Korea, even though all evidence doesn't point to them.
	All evidence points to them not being the culprit.
	And why would they be?
	What, they have a cyber group?
	You know as well as I do that somebody who's into computer hacking to the point where they can do...
	and get into things without, you know, hard-coded passwords again is like the giveaway.
	But the guys who can really do this sort of thing aren't the script kiddies.
	They're kids who were like outcasts in school.
	They were troublesome.
	They're the kind of people that if we are to believe anything about North Korea, would probably not have gotten this far in the system.
	And they definitely would not be in the 3,000-man army of cyber attackers that supposedly North Korea has.
	They don't have anybody that can do anything. - But it's almost like the announcement of my divorce When you read the New York Times article, Don said, hey, what is the media basing this on?
	And, of course, he reads the paper version.
	I'm not sure he's not reading the online version.
	And I pointed him to the Grey Lady, where it says, American officials have concluded North Korea was centrally involved, I'm reading from the New York Times, in the hacking of Sony Pictures computers, even as the studio canceled the release of a far-fetched comedy, blah, blah, blah.
	Senior administration officials who would not speak on the record about the intelligence findings.
	I mean, come on!
	Come on!
	No one is actually saying this.
	It's just bullshit.
	But the New York Times is happy to jump right in.
	Oh, everybody's in on it.
	It's unbelievable to me.
	I mean, everybody that listens to this show must have been shaking their heads from the beginning because it has all the earmarks of a hoax.
	But let's play Erin Burnett.
	I'll play just a few of these clips.
	This is Sony, Erin Burnett, Act of War.
	She pushes this meme as hard as she can because she's been told to.
	Yeah, exactly.
	This is a story of incredible significance.
	This is, as many have said, this is an act of war.
	I picked a bad day to quit heroin once again.
	I just, I got to keep, get back on the horse.
	It's an American company now.
	It has been, they have said that this is perpetrated by a foreign government, by the government of North Korea.
	All right.
	So, Mark, let me ask you the question then directly.
	When you hear this, the threats that were made, and there was a threat, right?
	There was a written threat, not just on Sony Pictures, but to the American public of warning of 9-11 style attacks if people went to see this movie on Christmas Day when it debuted.
	Is this an act of war?
	Well, it is an act of war, but an act of war is typically by a nation-state against another state.
	This is unusual because it is a war-like act if it was done actually by North Korea, which all indications are that it was.
	It's an act of war against a corporation.
	Now, Sony had to respond, and they have to protect life, health, safety, and property first.
	But after that, you know, really they did ultimately end up having to cave in to these demands.
	Is Sony running our Department of Homeland Security now that they have to protect life?
	There's a couple of things that come up, come to mind immediately, which is if that's an act of war, which I don't see, wasn't the why don't they call the attack on the target database and all this credit cards an act of war?
	Why wasn't that an act of war?
	Thank you.
	An act of war, and it was designed to target the government.
	I mean, it was not like some company in Iran.
	And it is an admitted act of war.
	Yeah.
	It's an actual attack on someone's critical infrastructure.
	Yeah, and this is just an attack on the email system, essentially.
	But when you think about it...
	The entertainment business truly is our critical infrastructure.
	That's what we run on.
	Everything is fueled by it.
	Everything.
	I could, I was so blown.
	I mean, it's one, Carl Bernstein.
	Carl, now he's from Bernstein, Woodward and Bernstein.
	These are the guys who broke the Watergate story.
	Right?
	Yes.
	He's getting on the air now.
	I want to read to you what...
	With Don Lemon, which that just blows my mind right there.
	Ingridge tweeted about Sony's decision.
	He said, no one should kid themselves with the Sony collapse.
	Wait, did he just say Ingridge?
	He didn't say that, did he?
	I want to read to you what Newt Gingrich...
	Oh, Newt Gingrich.
	I'm sorry.
	Newt Gingrich.
	Yeah, Newt Gingrich in the house.
	I have this clip.
	Yeah, the Newt Gingrich quote is a classic.
	Newt Gingrich has to stay in the media somehow.
	...about Sony's decision.
	He said, no one should kid themselves.
	With the Sony collapse, America has lost its first cyber war.
	This is a very, very dangerous precedent.
	So, Carl...
	What message will ISIS or the Taliban or any other terror group take from this capitulation?
	It's obvious.
	You know, Newt Gingrich and I aren't known for being on the same page.
	It's so good, John, that Carl Bernstein and Newt Gingrich are now agreeing with each other over this...
	That must be true.
	Over this obvious hoax.
	Too often.
	But we sure are here.
	This is terrible.
	It also means that almost any lone wolf terrorist can find some ways to inhibit, scare the hell out of big businesses.
	And we now have capitulated to a force.
	You know, we don't negotiate with kidnappers.
	Capitulate.
	This is a similar kind of question.
	What are we doing here by saying, oh, let's let these guys just come in and have their way?
	I would hope that the White House, with the entertainment industry, figures out a way to somehow insist that this movie get out there.
	It's incredible.
	Baffling.
	Dumbfounding.
	Astounding.
	So I have a clip of, and this is, I believe, on one of these, I think it's a CNN show, but it may have been Aaron.
	They bring on Buck Sexton.
	Now, Buck Sexton is an ex-CIA guy who is one of the primary players on the blaze.
	He's the handler for Glenn Beck.
	And he comes on, and I got three clips, one after the other, because he comes on to straighten out the memes.
	He's a fast talker.
	So you get a lot out of him.
	And a lot of the stuff he slips in.
	He had to do a couple of things.
	One is he had to correct the notion that Sony's a Japanese company.
	Whoops!
	Even though that's kind of like, how's it a An act of war.
	There's a logical problem here.
	Yeah.
	Act of war.
	Oh, we've got to retaliate.
	Oh, wait a minute.
	Sony is a Japanese company.
	Ixnay on the Apanese J. Shouldn't we...
	Shouldn't the Japanese be...
	Bent out of shape, at least.
	Taken care of...
	Yeah.
	But they're not.
	They're not.
	No.
	So he drops in the meme and he uses it repeatedly.
	The meme on American soil.
	Aha!
	Oh, wow!
	Yes, I thought that was very slick.
	Is that in this first clip here?
	It's actually in a couple of the clips, but let's play Buck Sexton trying to straighten this out so all the memes are lining up properly.
	Well, is this Buck Sexton 1 then?
	Because you're confusing me.
	And a short time ago, former Republican presidential candidate Newt Gingrich tweeted his opinion.
	This is Fox, man.
	That's not CNN. Yeah, this is Fox.
	Okay, let's make sense then.
	I would be surprised if Sexton came on CNN....on the whole thing.
	Quote, no one should kid themselves with the Sony collapse.
	America has lost its first cyber war.
	This is a very, very dangerous...
	Seminal moment.
	...precedent, he says.
	Buck Sexton is host of the Buck Sexton Show on Blaze Radio, a former CIA officer and former NYPD Intelligence Division specialist.
	Buck, welcome.
	Good to have you here tonight.
	Thank you.
	This is a big deal.
	What does the FBI know about It's bizarre and yet very serious at the same time.
	Look, the idea that this could be anyone other than North Korea wouldn't make any sense.
	Who would go through all this trouble?
	Who would have the capability?
	Who would care enough about this movie other than the North Korean government and its surrogates to actually engage in this?
	So, at this point, whether the administration comes out or not and says it's official.
	I know there have been sources saying that the FBI has essentially said that it is North Korea.
	We basically know that it is.
	Essentially, basically, don't question authority.
	We essentially know that it is.
	We know in our hearts that it's North Korea.
	May I remind everybody that we are a Gitmo nation living under the repealment of the Smith-Mundt Act, which forbade the American government from committing propaganda on the citizens of the United States.
	And this is the result of that repeal.
	This is Sexton 2.
	The question becomes then, what should the response be?
	Because this is a very serious issue.
	If North Korea is allowed to do this, if they're allowed to essentially target private corporations on U.S. soil, maybe even private citizens, it has a very real chilling effect on our speech, on top of being a form of cyberterrorism.
	So this is something that requires a robust and dedicated response from the White House.
	I'm not sure we're going to get it, though.
	I think right now they're waiting to see what happens.
	So far, we haven't heard boo from the White House.
	I mean, you might expect, when you think about after 9-11 and the concerns that there would be further threats, the message was always go on, live your life, do what you're going to do, go to the movies, go shopping.
	Now, you know, this is uncharted territory in many ways, a cyber war attack, a terrorist act in many ways.
	You know, we don't know this territory.
	We don't know how to play out, but it could happen again and again and again, given this precedent.
	Sony backed down.
	Wow, wow, wow.
	This is great.
	And it's important what I said at the opening of the show.
	When you know that my own family and people I know very well are emailing me saying, man, I'm so sorry to hear about the divorce.
	It works.
	This stuff works.
	It works.
	It works.
	I love it.
	Me too.
	Which is Buck Sexton 3.
	This is the meme fest.
	Let me just rewind it there for a second.
	This is good, by the way.
	I like these.
	Sony did back down, and I know that there's a lot of people who are saying that Sony essentially wimped out here, but let's be clear that Sony has been sucker punched by this whole situation.
	Their computers have been wiped clean.
	Everything has been taken off and, as we know, shared very broadly.
	It's embarrassed the company tremendously.
	It's going to cost it tens of millions of dollars, if not more.
	So there's some very serious issues that Sony's trying to deal with on top of whether they're even going to release this movie.
	And quite honestly, this is a national security issue.
	It's a First Amendment issue from the perspective of the American people.
	We shouldn't be cowed by foreign dictators.
	Yeah, but that's what I'm saying.
	Is it an overreaction?
	Because, you know, we're hearing there's no credible threats to any movie theaters in America based on this.
	And I also wonder, we've heard so much about our invasion of privacy, you know, that the NSA is everywhere, that they're watching.
	Yeah, there it is.
	They don't seem to have any clue where this came from.
	They keep telling us that this was very sophisticated, and the level of the attack on U.S. soil was unprecedented.
	But I'll say this.
	The American people do not react well.
	Forget about Sony for a second.
	We don't react well to some tin-pot dictator anywhere in the world telling us what we can or cannot read, speak, or do.
	But that's what we've done.
	Well, that's what Sony is on.
	I think that there will be a movement among the American people to show some solidarity here in favor of the First Amendment.
	So far, they're saying they're not going to release it digitally.
	I'm not sure that's going to hold.
	Someone's going to get a copy of this.
	It will be distributed on the Internet.
	And there will be, I think, a movement to spread the film far and wide.
	So the intent of this from North Korea, at least in part, which was to keep it from getting seen, that's not going to work.
	The precedent that has been set for American corporations is you guys won.
	We backed out.
	We pulled our movie out.
	So you won.
	Terrorists win!
	They won against Sony.
	Between this and Cuba, it's a good day for tyranny, a bad day for freedom.
	Oh, great day for tyranny, John.
	It's a great day for tyranny.
	Hail Hydra!
	I love the smell of tyranny in the morning.
	Great day for tyranny.
	Wow, wow.
	You know what the real bummer is?
	I think someone placed a couple of calls because it stopped.
	But everybody, they were spoiling the movie.
	Now we all know that it ends with Kim Jong-un's head exploding.
	Right.
	That's a spoiler, man.
	That is a spoiler.
	That's not okay.
	No.
	And by the way, talking about acts of war, what would happen if France or Germany or anyone did a movie about killing Obama?
	Now, we've had movies that are done out of Hollywood where the president's under threat.
	Hold on a second.
	It's never about the specific president in office.
	Correct.
	I think this is the movie itself, even though our government supposedly green-lighted it.
	Our government green-lit it?
	Yeah.
	They have to call the White House and say, hey man, can you green-light this?
	Really?
	Yeah, which of course tells you how deep the government's involved in stuff like this.
	Yeah, the government green-lighted it.
	It probably went, good idea, maybe we can get something going, bingo, boom, shagalaga.
	And it was about a specific individual who's a real person.
	It was a tasteless idea.
	I mean, to say the least.
	But of course, the Japanese and was never mentioned.
	This is the racism between the Japanese and the Koreans in general.
	Huge, huge, huge.
	The Japanese hate the Koreans.
	They've burnt.
	They've attacked them, their country numerous times and burnt the place to the ground.
	Yeah.
	The Koreans actually lost their written language and it had to be redeveloped from scratch.
	I know.
	Which is why it's so screwy looking.
	Because of the Japanese.
	Yeah.
	So them doing this movie, you know, is not really a big surprise.
	But this is not an attack on the United States by any means.
	Let me ask you a question.
	It's not an attack by anybody.
	This is bullcrap.
	Now, here's what I think would happen.
	Can I ask you one question before you get into the final analysis?
	Yeah.
	Is...
	Running the entire nuclear armament of South Korea, which we're doing, about to hand it over to South Korea to sell them billions of dollars worth of rockets pointed at Pyongyang.
	Is that anywhere near on the level of a movie about Kim Jong-un's head being blown up?
	I don't see any comparison whatsoever.
	Okay, just want to make sure I'm not crazy.
	Now, let's go with...
	I'll just do these last two clips.
	Here's the first one that kind of like, okay, I see where Korea stands in all this.
	Here's a Fox...
	Fox is all in on this, of course.
	Here's a Fox item about Castro.
	And this is the Castro North Korea clip.
	And this was kind of triggered some of my thinking.
	And then we gave up three spies, and supposedly we might have another person that's coming.
	But on top of that, there are these incredible concessions that the Castro regime has always asked for, and in return it's what?
	That the Red Cross is going to be able to go into Cuba, and the UN is going to be able to go into Cuba.
	This is the same UN that six months ago was told that the Castro regime has sent the largest shipment of illicit arms to North Korea, and they did nothing.
	They didn't respond.
	President Obama did respond by giving the Castro regime the largest concessions that any dictator has gotten in, frankly, a recent history.
	I mean, it just raises...
	Hmm...
	Well, I just said, what is this?
	They're throwing in a little thing there.
	It's got nothing to do with this deal, but they throw it in anyway.
	Okay.
	Okay, so then I got Fox hints at the truth about the Sony attack, and this is what triggered my conclusion.
	Some enablers, really, of those behind this vicious attack.
	You know, but I find it curious, because there's so many people who are outraged in this country by the involvement of government in private companies, in the business of private companies, in regulation, all of that.
	And yet, I mean, maybe we're going to hear more tomorrow when they make this FBI announcement that supposedly will definitely link it to North Korea.
	But we haven't heard from the government, look, go about your lives.
	Don't let this cow you.
	And also, I heard that two government officials were consulted on this movie and said, you know, we don't have a problem with the fact that Kim Jong-un's head blows up at the end of the movie.
	We're okay with it.
	Now they don't have too much to say about the whole thing.
	Look, this was a stupid and reckless idea by Sony.
	How it gets marketed as a comedy, I have no idea.
	But it still is a blow against free speech, as dumb as the movie might be.
	And as you mentioned earlier, there is now nothing to stop other attackers from targeting any movie or magazine or newspaper article that displeases them.
	And many, many American companies are vulnerable.
	And they will.
	You can bet on it after this.
	Howard, thank you very much.
	Oh, okay.
	I think I know where you're going.
	Many American companies are vulnerable.
	I think I know where you're going.
	Yes, I agree.
	Okay, so what we have is they took this situation, and the NSA was mentioned earlier, which helps me come to the conclusion that this is an opportunity.
	Mm-hmm.
	To get the American corporations on board with this information sharing that we've been insisting on.
	And the company said, last time you guys were involved, you screwed us.
	It burned us.
	We can't do business overseas and all this sort of thing because of the Snowden stuff.
	So they're trying to make it, you know, let's scare these companies to death, which is what we can do the best, about what this could happen to you.
	And this is a foreign government, and if you don't have us in bed with you, if we don't have the U.S. Then we can't protect you.
	To protect you, you're going to be screwed like Sony got screwed by North Korea, those evildoers.
	You don't want that, do you?
	So this is just a complete ploy from the beginning to the end for our intelligence services to get into the corporate, you know, pants.
	Well, the bill is about to be signed by the President.
	It went through.
	All he has to do is sign it, and I guess now that's all he has to do in this gambit.
	This is a gambit.
	This is the definition of a gambit, I think.
	Yes, which also means that they can't reveal, when they catch the real guys who did this, if they do, they can never say that, because now it makes the whole thing look like this whole thing is a giant scam, which it is.
	Fall apart, yeah.
	I love this.
	Because if we had been talking a couple years ago, and I would have said, hey man, you know what I think is going to happen because I'm from the future, and I told you this, you would have laughed in my face.
	You would have said, no way.
	Even I couldn't have come up with this scenario.
	This is great.
	Do you think that there's one or two people who are who really thought about this or is this crisis teams who come in?
	It's just that crisis thing.
	Don't let a good crisis go to waste.
	But who do you think is really driving this?
	I, you know, at first, at first.
	Is this Comey?
	I mean, Comey could be.
	Comey from FBI.
	It's definitely NSA.
	NSA, there's some involvement, but I think it started on its own.
	I don't think anyone's plan.
	Right.
	I agree.
	First it started out, so then the media picked it up because it's a slow news time of year.
	Well, it's fun.
	The North Koreans are attacking because somebody put two and two together, somebody like us, but only at one level.
	They didn't go any deeper.
	Somebody in the media put two and two together.
	Oh, there's this movie.
	And Kim Jong-un, I think, did express some dissatisfaction.
	Yes, on December 9th, the state television said...
	They deserve that about the Sony hack, and they certainly deserve being hacked because it's a horrible movie they're putting out.
	That was State TV, which I think was unfortunate.
	So the first thing they hacked and nobody mentioned the movie, then somebody mentions the movie, and then somebody puts two and two together, and all of a sudden it's the movie.
	Thus, this is a post-hoc argument, one of those back-ass arguments.
	It's bullshit.
	You put two and two together and thus it has to be North Korea and then pretty soon it goes from it must be North Korea to it is North Korea and everybody knows it like Buck Sexton says we all know it.
	We all know it's North Korea and it goes and then at some point it's between the putting together and the thing maintaining itself as a news story.
	Yeah.
	Somebody came up with a bright idea to say, yes, it is North Korea, and everybody's under attack, and all corporations are vulnerable.
	Get in bed with the NSA. We've been begging you to do this forever.
	You don't like us, but we want you in bed, and this is going to happen to you.
	Everybody buys it.
	They'll all sign up.
	It's fantastic.
	It's really smartly done.
	Yeah, but it wasn't a plan.
	It's just one of those crisis management things.
	You've got the crisis.
	How can we make out on this crisis?
	And here's the only thing I will say.
	First of all, and I know dudes named Ben and dudettes named Ben who have worked on drone programs who left and were then asked by their superiors, oh, hey man, could you change the root password to this?
	I'm not kidding you.
	This is true.
	At least it was, I believe it to be true.
	This is the story that was related.
	Sounds like something that would happen.
	The level of knowledge of how technology works in any business is so low, is so trusted, just so trusted, really, that The big news for me is it's a free-for-all.
	It's a big free-for-all.
	It's very simple.
	Very, very few things you have to do.
	There's lots of stuff I email.
	If someone breaks into my email, it could be potentially embarrassing.
	I'm sure there's something in there.
	All you have to do is just use encryption.
	It's very simple, and oh yeah, it's not being made simple for you to do it, but once you figure it out, that's really the main thing people have to do.
	That's it.
	That's all that has to take place.
	The powers that be do not want you using encryption.
	Of course not.
	You notice that in all this reporting...
	No one mentions it.
	No one even used the word encryption.
	I mean, I never heard it.
	Even Kevin Mitnick is saying, whoa, we have to wait for more sophisticated tools to be developed.
	Shut up, you dick!
	That guy's a dick.
	He's all in.
	Well, of course, this is his livelihood.
	I'd be all in, too, if I was on the wrong side of history.
	This is a scam of the highest order.
	You know, of all the things in that memo that will be in the show notes, of all the things, there's a long list of reasons why it's not North Korea.
	The hard-coded paths and passwords in the malware.
	Hard-coded paths.
	They knew the structure of the whole network.
	Hard-coded passwords.
	That's not malware.
	By any normal sense, I mean, you can't use it someplace else.
	I can't take that code and then attack, you know, Sears with it or attack anybody at Paramount Pictures.
	I didn't actually interact directly with people in the IT arena.
	There was somebody whose name was, I can't even remember his last name.
	I think his first name may have been Ben.
	A guy named Ben.
	A dude named Ben.
	That's right.
	That's how people think about their IT technology.
	Dude named Ben is sitting there.
	Oh, I don't know.
	Some dude named Ben came over and he did some stuff and it fixed it all.
	Sony, they're dumb.
	They fired 5,000 people and another 2,000 in July.
	No one is talking about this.
	The entire digital division.
	Come on.
	Come on.
	Who's the chief technology officer at Sony or whoever's supposed to be in charge of that?
	I think the hack came after the second 2000.
	If you're working there and they just fired 5,000 people in a certain type of arena, which would be the computer guys, and you're a computer guy still working there, the first thing you do, I don't know, maybe I'm wrong about this, but a lot of people take defensive measures.
	Yeah, and copy files.
	Yeah, of course.
	Shit, I'm doing that right now to Mickey's computer before the divorce.
	I gotta download that whole bitch.
	I gotta have the thing, man.
	USB 3.0 will really pull stuff down fast.
	I need weaponization here.
	I'm under attack.
	Well, talking about under attack, so I've got a clip.
	This is the level that the public has to deal with.
	Hold on, Jeff.
	Can I just stop you for one second?
	Isn't it great for you and I to be alive while this is happening and to have a podcast?
	Oh, yeah.
	And I think everyone who listens to this podcast...
	Yeah, is a winner.
	...very much appreciates this, probably more than anyone else, because our audience is very technical.
	Not everybody, but most of them, or a lot of them, let's say.
	And they...
	Less and less.
	...will crap constantly, and it must drive them crazy.
	And they love...
	They have to, because we have good support.
	They love the fact that somebody is making the obvious...
	We're saying the obvious.
	This is no...
	This is Occam's razor.
	Yeah, this is very obvious.
	It's very easy to see.
	I'm just flabbergasted at the level of people.
	For Don Lemon to sit around and one day he's talking about why didn't you bite Bill Cosby's dick when he was putting it in your mouth.
	Thanks, Don Lemon.
	Way to vilify the victim.
	And then the next day he's talking to Dan Rather and Carl Bernstein and...
	That's great.
	All right, what do you have?
	You got more?
	Well, actually, let me skip it, and we can maybe...
	Do you want to take a little break?
	Well, maybe then, since we are truly courageous in our reporting on this.
	We are the courageous duo.
	I'd like to thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you, John C., where the C stands for courage, Dvorak.
	Well, then, I can't seem to find my sound effect tube.
	In the morning to you, Adam Curry.
	Also in the morning, all ships and sea boots on the ground.
	Subs in the water, if there are indeed any subs in the water anymore.
	Feet in the air and all the dames and knights out there.
	In the morning to everybody in the chat room, noagendastream.com.
	Good to see you all there, depleting your 9.2 million dollar value slowly over time.
	In the morning to our artistes, Nick the Rat.
	Thank you very much for your...
	Your work on the album art for episode 678.
	What album, what art did you use in the newsletter, John?
	It was some, you know, I wrote it down somewhere.
	We should be crediting these people.
	I know I should.
	I feel bad about this.
	It was a very old piece of art that I found in the Evergreen box.
	Okay.
	That seemed to fit the bill.
	Next time you do that, just put it down below in the newsletter.
	Art, copyright.
	I should do that, yes.
	A little credit.
	It's nice.
	Yeah, I feel bad now.
	You should.
	Thanks for making me feel bad in the middle of the show.
	Anytime.
	But we do have some people to thank, and I feel better after I thank them, including Sir Oscar Nadal, who came in with $936.72 with the commentary, Karma Works, more details to come, and a bigger donation.
	Uh-oh.
	Hold on a second.
	So that's kind of interesting.
	I wonder what happened.
	Maybe he won the lottery.
	And what an interesting number.
	Is there a clue?
	No, this is all he says.
	Is there a clue in the number?
	No.
	Let me just see if I have any emails from him.
	No.
	Yeah, I didn't see anything.
	No, I don't know.
	Well, I'm not going to look the proverbial gift horse in a mouth.
	Of course not.
	I'm very happy.
	Thank you very much, Sir Oscar Nadel.
	All right.
	Let me give him some more karma since, you know...
	Yeah, give him some more karma.
	Really top it off.
	We've got karma.
	Right on.
	Roger Boots in Mechanicsville, Iowa sent us $500.
	I can find nothing from him.
	Was that PayPal?
	Yes, it was.
	It was a PayPal donation, and it came in through the regular channel of PayPal, so he had an opportunity to send in a note, and he couldn't email us, but we got nothing.
	So, thank you, Roger.
	I'm looking.
	I don't see anything...
	Sir HMFIC in Vermont.
	The head mofo in charge.
	3-3-3-3-3.
	Black Knight of the U.S. Army.
	Yes, Black Knight of the U.S. Army.
	All right, what does he say?
	He's a little note here.
	Seeing as how my last attempt at doing a drunk donation went about as well as Helen Keller playing musical chairs.
	Wow.
	And now we know that he's up there in age with this reference.
	Yeah.
	Yes.
	I decided to wait until I was sober to write the note.
	I hope this magic number donation helps combat the drop in donations around the holidays, which there is a decided drop.
	Highly appreciated.
	Included in this donation is the back pay for my promotion from Staff Sergeant to Sergeant First Class On December 6th.
	Oh, congratulations.
	I have now joined the ranks of senior non-commissioned officers and wanted to include the No Agenda Nation in celebrating by donating the extra chunk of change to the best podcast in the universe.
	Excellent.
	What I was trying to say in my last donation note was that you are both correct in the matter of the Department of Defense telling servicemen to remove their military affiliation pictures, etc.
	from social media due to the supposed threat from Toyota truck commercial known as ISIS. Yeah.
	It is a huge...
	Did you get the note about this guy?
	Yeah, the plumber in Texas?
	Yeah, the plumber in Texas sells his car.
	Yeah, okay, fine.
	Do you know the story?
	Yeah, of course I know the story.
	Tell us the story.
	The story is, we have this plumber in Texas who has a Ford F-250.
	Actually, I have a little clip for you.
	We're starting with a story that is getting national attention.
	A truck belonging to a Texas City company pictured in a tweet that looks like it's coming from a terrorist organization.
	And now the company is getting threats and is worried for their employees' safety.
	So there's this picture, and it shows his truck with his A1, whatever his plumbering name is, on the side still, even with the phone number, even with the Texas tags.
	You can kind of see that in the picture.
	And this is now being said that this truck somehow magically flew over or floated over to ISIS in the Middle East.
	And let me just say, this is the biggest bunch of bull crap I've seen in a long time.
	A. No terrorist in the ISIS group will be caught dead driving a Ford.
	It's Toyota.
	This is clear.
	I don't know if Ford is trying to weasel in on the business.
	It's not happening.
	The second thing, tweet Schmeet.
	This picture, as far as I, this could be from Abilene, this picture.
	This could be in Mexico, where ISIS, of course, is, you know, we know ISIS is in Mexico.
	This is not some terrorist in the Middle East with a Ford F-250.
	This is bullcrap.
	Yeah.
	And I'm not even sure the picture isn't photoshopped.
	I'm sure it is.
	It looks like it.
	Yeah.
	But why this guy's truck has always been the question on my mind.
	What are they trying to ruin this company?
	Could have been done by a competitor.
	It's just someone tweeted.
	It's just fun.
	It's just fun.
	You know, I don't know.
	Hey, here's how it goes.
	Hey, man.
	Look at the North Koreans, man.
	They're taking all of our media juice.
	We've got to do something.
	I know!
	We could have come up with it.
	Anyway, it goes on.
	Our HMFC guy.
	I see that.
	He's a mofo in charge, yes.
	It's a huge insult to us to suggest that we, the U.S. military, a.k.a. America's throbbing cock of justice, should cower in fear because of the empty words of an enemy that does not have the means to follow through.
	To tell those that have deployed, engaged, and destroyed the enemy in close comp— This is why he doesn't want his name revealed.
	Get in here!
	The power and fear because of the empty words of an enemy that does not have the means to follow through to tell those that have deployed, engaged, and destroyed the enemy in close combat overseas that they should now be afraid on their own soil is preposterous!
	Exactly.
	The reaction to this from combat vets has been pretty solid.
	Let them come.
	When you allow yourself to be terrorized, the terrorists win.
	Marika.
	Marika.
	He's got a birthday call.
	I think he's got a birthday coming up.
	We do have it in the book.
	I think he means Murica.
	Not Marika.
	What I say, Marika.
	I like Marika.
	There's a need for a rescue mission.
	When the world is threatened, the world needs help.
	It calls on America.
	And that's the story.
	Merica.
	Merica.
	Stephen McGaha, another, he's an APO somewhere in the Middle East, it looks like.
	He sends a letter in.
	Oh, nice.
	And he also donated $333.33, so our military's in on $333.33 this time.
	Thank you for what you do and your courage.
	I attempted to make a contribution to 33333 Mark of the Beast.
	I did it through the PayPal link, but not sure it went through.
	If it did, yes it did.
	All I want is some Obama A-Team, which you just played.
	I didn't know that.
	Wow.
	Yes.
	That's good.
	A little kid, boom shakalaka, and some karma.
	Okay, we just played that one.
	And he is Sir DeSteel on Brussels, the subject of Baron von Pelsmacher.
	Ah, very nice.
	Very nice.
	All right, here it comes.
	You've got karma.
	All right, little kid.
	Nick's kid.
	It's Nick's kid.
	Nick's kid.
	It's Nick's kid.
	Corwin Underwood, 23456 in Hamilton, Ohio.
	ITM, gentlemen, because of the session filmed out, because the session timed out, typing my first note, I've gone from slightly buzzed to total drunk donation.
	Whoopee.
	Please give a...
	Oops, I've got to expand this.
	I don't know why it doesn't do page wrap.
	Anyway, to recap the original note, please give a home-buying karma shout-out to my brother, Sir Metal Mike.
	Searching for a new home can be a bitch.
	Sorry, donations have been low during the holidays since I made an effort to donate for November, and here's my donation for December.
	Something more about a six-sided stop sign that doesn't exist reminded me to donate again.
	Right.
	I think we programmed people if they saw the six-sided stop sign, it was time to donate, which is why this failed, because, of course, stop signs have eight sides.
	Yes.
	So we programmed incorrectly.
	It's a lost cause.
	Amateur-ish.
	We're no North Koreans.
	Yeah, he needs a two to the head.
	Boom shakalaka and a Reverend Sharpton.
	Resist we much.
	Oh, alrighty.
	But resist we much.
	We must and we will much about that be committed.
	Thanks, Rev.
	Carl of London, the UK, 23456, requesting a de-douching and karma.
	That is all.
	Finally stepping up.
	He's a long-time boner.
	Won't be the last.
	All righty, you betcha.
	You've been de-douched.
	You've got karma.
	Righto.
	James Ogilvie in Simsbury, Connecticut, $210.12.
	He'll be our last associate executive producer here for show 679.
	ITM boys meant to send this in last week so I could be a producer for my birthday show 1214.
	But I was too busy spinning.
	Can I get a D-Dutching?
	Hot Pockets Der Kiki?
	Or Dr.
	Kiki?
	And find a college I can afford karma for my daughter, Rowan.
	Please keep up the great work, Jimmo.
	Does he want a new Dr.
	Kiki?
	It was worth it, or does he want a science Dr.
	Kiki?
	He just said Dr.
	Kiki.
	I'll do the new Dr.
	Kiki then.
	You've been D-Douched.
	Hot Pockets!
	It was worth it.
	You've got karma.
	Rockin' and rollin'!
	And that concludes the 679 donation segment for producers and executive producers.
	I want to thank them all, reminding people we do have a show coming up on Sunday, just a few days away.
	Dvorak.org slash NA to help us out on that day.
	I also have a note here from Sir David Foley.
	He got cut off of his donation for Sir London.
	Who presented episode 678, if you saw the credits.
	He said, anyone who buys my new Christmas album...
	Oh yes, Grand Duke David Foley has a Christmas album out.
	Did you know?
	Yes.
	Yes.
	On iTunes.
	And if you email him the receipt between now and the end of 2014, he will donate the proceeds...
	To the No Agenda show with a New Year's donation.
	And you can find all the information at deckthehousemusic.com, of which I have a sample, John.
	Apparently, the Grand Duke is a DJ.
	House DJ, that is.
	This is a sampler.
	Sounds good.
	Yeah, it's great.
	It's called...
	Hold on, I have it here.
	Hold on.
	It's called Deck the House EDM Holiday Songs, Electronic Dance Music Holiday Songs.
	I didn't think he was a house guy.
	Oh, yeah.
	Yeah, he used to...
	He's a radio guy.
	I'm learning about the Grand Duke.
	Yeah, he used to work in Boston.
	He was spinning to vinyls, man.
	Vinyl.
	Real vinyl.
	Nobody thinks about dubstep.
	Some gum do.
	Thank you very much, David Foley, Sir Dick Grand Duke, DeckTheHouseMusic.com.
	And thank everybody else, our executive producers and associate executive producers, for helping us with show 679.
	We are doing the best to give you all the value that you want to derive from it.
	Your credits are what you get in return, and of course those are real credits.
	If anyone brings him into question, we will gladly vouch for you.
	Dvorak.org slash NA. And of course, always do we need our legion to go out and propagate the formula.
	Our formula is this.
	We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
	Hey, citizen.
	Shut up, slave.
	Shut up, slave.
	Aye, aye, aye.
	There we go.
	That's a good time to be alive.
	A good time to be alive, I'd say.
	Well, so I have this clip I saved.
	This is from NCIS. I've been getting enough of these crazy clips in.
	And this is just the power grid attack clip from the last show.
	It was just on the other night.
	That's actually NCIS LA. From Seabug.
	At the time of the break-in, only one file was downloaded onto a thumb drive.
	860 kilobytes?
	That's not that much.
	Huh.
	Wow.
	But it's enough.
	You gotta take the calendar, Sam?
	Yeah.
	What do you got, Eric?
	Well, I managed to ID the malware that the thieves took.
	It affects something called PLCs, Programmable Logic Controllers.
	They're used in industrial computer systems to control automation.
	What kind of industrial systems?
	Well, the specific PLCs that this malware targets are only found in U.S. electric power plants.
	Guys, this bug could crash the entire nation's grid for weeks.
	No power, no communications.
	No heat.
	No Netflix is what they should have said.
	No heat.
	No Netflix.
	What?
	Netflix?
	They're going to be honest about it.
	Oh my gosh.
	This is assuming, of course, that the entire country has the exact same lash-up, which is Not the case, of course.
	No, no, no.
	It's like, you know, radio stations being all the same.
	They're not.
	You brought up Cuba in that related to Sony clip.
	Of course, I watched the State Department briefing from yesterday.
	I do have to say, I'm impressed with Jen Psaki.
	I really am.
	This girl, she has all these papers, and she has little tabs, and when someone says, oh, it's going to be Cuba, but they can easily go to Sony, they can go to any topic, ISIS, ISIL, she has different ones, so ISIS or ISIL. And she whips that open and starts talking.
	She must have so much going on in her head.
	I'm impressed.
	I have to say...
	I'm not impressed necessarily, but I will say that she is one of the slickest that I've seen in that position.
	Very, very slick.
	Extremely slick.
	And she makes Marie look stupid.
	Like an amateur.
	Although Marie's trying to get her job.
	We know that.
	And so I watched the entire briefing.
	I've watched report after report after report.
	And I think what happens, even Matt didn't bring it up.
	Matt Lee, Matthew Lee from AP, our guy, the savior of journalism.
	Because I think what happens is, particularly journalists, they hear, oh, we're going to open the gates, we're going to change something with Cuba, and immediately they're all thinking about Bay of Pigs and Castro,
	but no one really looked at Besides the so-called shipment to North Korea, what happened in July, it was just July that the following took place, and I went back to the clip bin, and I pulled out a 25-second clip, which, as far as I know, has not been brought up in any relation to the new...
	The new deal we are trying to put together with Cuba.
	Putin and Raul Castro will rubber stamp an unprecedented agreement.
	Moscow is writing off 90% of Cuba's death to the USSR. That's $32 billion, astronomical money for a poor country like Cuba.
	The remaining 10% will be reinvested into social infrastructure projects on Cuba.
	The intrigue is what Havana will offer in return.
	Speculation takes in everything from major oil deals, Cuba potentially has a lot of it but has no money to extract, to rebuilding Soviet military bases on the island.
	Oh, okay.
	No one is mentioning the $34 billion gift from Putin.
	$34 billion.
	Putin!
	And military bases.
	And oil.
	Why bother even bringing it up?
	Why bother?
	We have a longish email from a Cuban producer who was born in Cuba.
	Lived in Havana for eight years.
	Yeah, why don't you read it in segments as you see fit.
	I think it's probably a good idea.
	A little background.
	Born in Cuba, lived in Havana for eight years.
	He's in his mid-twenties now.
	Came over to the U.S. with his family through the Cuban Lottery Visa Program.
	But since then, he's gone back a couple of times to visit family.
	He says, you know, whatever is motivating the U.S. and Cuba to do this now, I'll leave up to you and John.
	but what I can talk about is my experience living in Cuba for a short time, my family's history, and his visits.
	Anywhere you look when walking down the streets of Havana, you see people who've been beaten into submission.
	The police wear military uniforms, carry assault rifles, say anything bad about the government anywhere but in your own home, and privately you will get a knock on the door and the butt of a rifle across your face, or worse, be imprisoned.
	Several family members of mine had their arms broken because they spoke ill of the government.
	All over the country you find propaganda, disputing lies about the U.S., demonizing Americans, Whatever happens because of the actions Obama has now taken will only increase the propaganda.
	Billboards telling the Cuban people they've won over the US or the US has been bent under their will.
	The best thing for the Cuban people is for the government officials who run the country to be gone.
	While they're still there in power, any aid that goes to that country, every new business that opens up will only line their pockets, leave the people starving.
	And then he goes into more details about how bad it is.
	And I'm going to finish it up here.
	The prostitution, this is, of course, key.
	We're always interested.
	Prostitution is abundant and up in your face.
	I don't see how this is a bad thing.
	The one club and the one bar I went to were filled with almost 90% hookers, with pimps waiting outside.
	All young girls who need the money as jobs in Cuba can hardly pay for anything.
	The tourists in these clubs were mostly old foreign men taking advantage of the situation.
	Sounds like Thailand.
	Just a few notes here.
	The thought of more tourism just frightens me.
	More money for the higher-ups in government and more citizens oppressed.
	In the morning!
	Um...
	Well, let's play my Cuba clip.
	This one says, Kudna, exchange, anomaly, which I think is kind of interesting.
	The part is the freeing of Cuba of a U.S. spy of a Cuban nationality who had been held in Cuba for the last two decades or so, says the Obama administration.
	This is one of the highest-ranking intelligence assets the United States had.
	That is, as much as we know about this person, Yeah, that's pretty cool.
	Don't talk about the spy.
	Yeah, nobody mentions the spy.
	We don't even know the spy's name.
	Oh, that's possible.
	No, but whatever the case is, they can't mention his name.
	They'll never mention his name.
	Why now would be the question I'd ask, which I believe was answered by the oil.
	Yeah.
	The $34 billion gift.
	We care about Cuba.
	We just want to get that oil.
	Yep.
	Quick, before Putin gets back.
	Yeah, before Putin gets back.
	They like doing this.
	The guys hosting the Winter Olympics.
	Hey, let's go screw with Ukraine.
	We can do it right now.
	He's not paying attention.
	This is perfect.
	We can do it right now.
	They like doing this.
	How cool is that one?
	That's cute.
	That's Dave the Douche.
	It's good.
	I love it.
	That's right.
	It's using the cocaine riff.
	Yes.
	And inserting Ukraine.
	How clever.
	So I've got one clip of Obama discussing this.
	He came out with a long, obviously a long, boring exposition on bringing Cuba back.
	By the way, I want to mention my take on this.
	I've always felt this Cuban embargo is crap.
	And I think by isolating a country like this, it just makes matters worse.
	And I've always felt this way since it began.
	It should have ended like five years after they started in the 60s.
	But anyway, so here's Obama.
	I just took a little bit of this...
	...thing just kind of give us a feeling for what Obama's talking about when he brings it up.
	At a time when we are focused on threats from al-Qaeda to ISIL, a nation that meets our conditions and renounces the use of terrorism should not face this sanction.
	Third, we are taking steps to increase travel, commerce, and the flow of information to and from Cuba.
	This is fundamentally about freedom and openness and also expresses my belief in the power of people-to-people engagement.
	With the changes I'm announcing today, it will be easier for Americans to travel to Cuba.
	And Americans will be able to use American credit and debit cards on the island.
	Nobody represents America's values better than the American people.
	And I believe this contact will ultimately do more to empower the Cuban people.
	Okay, there's some language in there that I think is quite telling.
	We are connecting our payment systems to Cuba before anybody else can connect their payment systems.
	That's a big deal.
	I think that's the biggest part of the whole deal.
	Well, I think there's a number of things.
	I think that's one item.
	I think it's very important.
	I think another item is the oil.
	And I think the third item is the carping that has to be going on in the background because the Canadians have been going back and forth and back and forth to Cuba and they're buying up the place.
	Oh, really?
	Yeah.
	Oh, this has been going on for, I don't know how many years, some Canadian listener could tell me.
	But they've been going back and forth and back and forth, and they're buying up the choice land on the beaches for hotels.
	And they're doing all the stuff that we should be doing, or at least Clinton should be doing, to get some prime real estate.
	And we're falling way behind.
	We're going to be playing catch-up when we finally start.
	And I think that's one of the biggest elements, is the Canadians.
	Yeah.
	Huh.
	I didn't know about this.
	Yes, in fact, a lot of people who like to go to Cuba, they go through Toronto.
	They don't go through Mexico so much because there are better flights out of Toronto to Cuba.
	And I could go, for example, I could always go because as a journalist, you can get a visa to go to Cuba.
	But they'll tear up the paperwork going both ways if you don't want it on your passport as a sneaking thing.
	I'm going to stick with the oil and with the encroachment by Russia and Putin visiting there just a few months ago, setting everything up.
	$34 billion.
	That's more than Ukraine has received from the IMF and the U.S. and the EU combined.
	That's big money.
	Well, we're going to screw them out of it.
	Well, hello.
	So, President Vladimir Putin, every month, I guess, he does a podcast.
	Not like President Obama's podcast, you know, the three, four minute, hi everybody, here's what's going on.
	He does a three hour live show.
	This is one of the shows where Ed Snowden once allegedly called in, which was video, pre-taped video, but okay.
	You remember these shows that he does?
	Yeah.
	And I have a transcript.
	I have two pieces.
	I think it's important, even though it's tough kind of to listen to the translator and stuff in real time, since no one else does it, except RT, I guess, I think it's important to play just two clips that were pertinent.
	And it is a very free-form kind of discussion.
	In fact, The BBC's John Simpson stood up and asked this whole long, really long question, but ultimately he says, I'll just play his question, not Putin's answer.
	Western countries almost universally now believe that there's a new Cold War and that you frankly have decided to create that.
	We see almost daily Russian aircraft taking sometimes quite dangerous maneuvers towards Western airspace.
	That must be done on your orders.
	You're the Commander-in-Chief.
	It must have been your orders that sent Russian troops Into the territory of a sovereign country.
	Crimea first, and then whatever it is that's going on in eastern Ukraine.
	The guy just goes on and on and on.
	And to me, this was scripted, this question.
	Yeah, sure.
	You can play the another parliament clip, and it would fit right in.
	It's kind of funny.
	They have the audience, the live studio audience, mainly journalists, and they all have signs with their broadcast affiliation on them.
	And France 24, their sign is with an Eiffel Tower.
	He's holding up the Eiffel Tower.
	So I guess the president can say, oh yeah, so there's the French guy.
	He'll recognize the Eiffel Tower sign.
	So this sounded very scripted to me.
	The answer was long and boring and not very good.
	Here is something I did like.
	The bear analogy.
	Of course, everyone talks about Russia being the bear and President Putin.
	Again, it's a little tough listening to the translator, but I think if you really just set your mind to it for a minute and a half here, it'll be worth listening to.
	His whole bear scenario, which kind of wraps up his thinking in one nice bundle, I think.
	You know, speaking in front of the Valdei Club, I quoted an example, and I mentioned the bear who guards his forests.
	You know, the thing is that if we go on with such analogies...
	Sometimes, and this thing even comes to my mind, is that probably our bear should just relax and sit quietly and just eat honey.
	Are you able to follow it now?
	Are you into it?
	Yeah, barely, but go on.
	The bear analogy says we just want the bear to sit quietly and eat its honey.
	Instead of hunting animals, maybe they will leave the bear in peace, but no, they will not.
	What they're trying to do is to chain the bear, and when they manage to chain the bear, they will just...
	Take out his phone, thanks, and close.
	This is how nuclear deterrence is working at the moment.
	And we could even hear that from officials saying that it is not just that Siberia belongs to Russia.
	But how can they say that it is unjust?
	For example, take Texas from Mexico.
	It is the right thing to do.
	I can't listen to it anymore.
	You've got to listen to it yourself in the show.
	No, this is too much.
	I find it...
	What was he saying about Mexico?
	He says Siberia belongs to Russia like Texas belongs to the USA. And he says, look, you took Texas back from Mexico, rightly so.
	So he brings this whole analogy and he keeps going about the bear, the bear, the bear, the bear, the bear.
	And, you know, the bear cannot declaw the bear.
	But the most important...
	The philosophy, you know, this is not as good as our material.
	No.
	The most important question...
	And by the way, does anybody bring up this sovereign, oh, sovereign country?
	What is our rolling into Iraq?
	That's not a foreign army going into a sovereign country?
	Yeah, but we've been invited.
	Or coming to crap out of Libya?
	We've been invited.
	Yeah.
	Invited by who?
	I don't remember the invite.
	Oh, you didn't get the memo?
	No, I didn't get the memo.
	Well, we were invited.
	Iraq, we have a deal, an MOU. We're allowed to help them to send in our advisors and our consultants and our trainers.
	Don't you remember we had the new guy come in and the old guy went out and then we got the go-in?
	The guy they hung?
	Yeah.
	And just recently, the other guy.
	They kicked him out, too.
	Yeah, they can kick guys out left and right.
	They don't go along with our program.
	It's fine.
	And you have one piece of entertaining Vladimir Putin.
	His girlfriend was in the audience.
	Oh my god!
	Smokin' hot.
	Huh.
	She looks 25.
	Well, she must be if she looks hot.
	And the president was asked about his love life.
	Mr.
	President, do you have any time for your personal life?
	Well, please pass my cordial welcome to the friends.
	And there's a shot of her.
	A friend of mine, a gentry from Europe, recently told me, you know...
	Do you have love?
	Do you have love?
	What do you mean?
	Do you love someone?
	Yes, I do.
	And is there anyone who doesn't love you?
	Yes, I have.
	People love me.
	I told you, everything is just fine, please don't worry.
	And I have very good relations with Yosmila, friendly relations, we see each other regularly, but of course, with my children, everything is fine as well, even though I do not see them as often as I would like.
	I would describe her look, she was born in 83, I would describe her look as USC, University of Southern California, cheerleader.
	Is that what she is?
	No, but that's what she looks like.
	Yeah, exactly.
	Yeah, she's got that Southern California cheerleader.
	She looks like one of those women.
	There's millions of them down there, and they all look kind of like this.
	Very pretty.
	I'm telling you, what's her name?
	Alina Kabeva?
	Is that her name?
	Yeah, Alina Kabeva.
	She was born Alina Maritovna Kabeva.
	She's a gymnast.
	What?
	I think she's a gymnast, is she not?
	Yeah, or something.
	Oh my goodness, she's a contortionist.
	Oh, you know, I dated a contortionist once until she broke it off.
	Yeah.
	Hey now, everybody!
	Where's my in the morning?
	I can't get an in the morning.
	It crashed.
	Get a drink.
	That's part of the crashed system.
	In the morning.
	Trying to get you the in the morning.
	Yeah, she is a contortionist.
	There's a good picture of her on Jim Stars magazine.
	All bent.
	Her head is touching the back of her legs.
	I saw that once in a San Diego strip bar.
	Yeah.
	Alrighty.
	Alrighty then.
	So if you want the entire translation of his show, he's in the show notes.
	679.noagendanotes.com And I don't think I had much more on, let me see what else, under the F Russia.
	I'm looking at this website that's showing this woman, Daily Entertainment News.
	And the first comment, she is with another Adolf Hitler.
	Oh, of course.
	This time Adolf Putin is his name.
	Killing and hurting people that are trying to live and work.
	He sends in his bullies, the ugliest men to hurt innocent people.
	I really can't wait when they hang him.
	Oh, yes.
	And his devil henchmen.
	That'll be great.
	His devil henchmen.
	I'm getting emails from many people in the EU. They're very worried about the obvious simultaneous collapse of oil and the ruble.
	Russians travel.
	They travel a lot.
	They certainly come to the United States, but they also like to travel in the EU, and a lot of them are not going to be able to travel this year.
	No, no, not with the ruble collapse.
	And the way it worked, the way I understand it, most Russians don't have a mortgage.
	I think they own their homes, because when Russia, the former Soviet Union came back, Somehow everyone just had their shit and they owned it and didn't owe any money.
	We'll have to get some verification of that thesis.
	This is what I've read.
	I don't know.
	I haven't looked into it for full-on analysis.
	But they do have a lot of disposable income.
	And a lot of that, of course, is the euro round robin.
	They make money from Germany and from other European countries, EU, with the gas and oil, of course.
	And then they circulate that back into the economy in the EU.
	And this is especially when the president signs off on the omnibus bill, which includes all these other great things we've been talking about, but also the derivatives.
	And if you're going to see security for the American banks, I think you're going to see, in particular, Deutsche Bank will.
	I'm not sure if Deutsche Bank will be good or not, depending on where they're operating.
	But you're going to see some problems in Europe.
	Depic music Yeah?
	And this is a shocker to you?
	No, no, no.
	Not at all.
	I'm just pointing out the obvious.
	Yeah, of course.
	That's exactly what we want.
	Yeah, fuck the EU. Yeah.
	That's what people don't understand.
	This is not about Russia.
	Well, it's partly about Russia.
	Well, when you think about it, John, what truly is the currency that we don't like?
	Oh yeah, we don't like the EU, I mean the Euro, but we don't like the, we don't also, and the up and coming BRIC currency or the SRDs or any of this, we don't like any of this stuff because it ruins our ability to print money.
	There's, yes.
	Because all of a sudden, we are the money.
	Yes, we are the money.
	We're the reserve currency.
	We are the money.
	In January 2015, the Eurasian Economic Union comes into effect.
	And I believe that may have something to do with this attack on the ruble.
	This would bring together...
	Yeah.
	This will bring together...
	Let me see.
	It's an EAU. It's a political and economic union.
	Five member states.
	We have Belarus, Kazakhstan, Russia, of course.
	Kyrgyzstan.
	And...
	Is that five?
	Yes.
	And I believe that...
	I'm not sure how it works.
	And I'm not...
	I have not...
	I've only really just learned about this Eurasian Economic Union.
	I didn't really know.
	I didn't get any memo.
	But I think that that is of importance, that the ruble needs to be as low as possible when this thing kicks off.
	Does that make any sense to you?
	No.
	You have to explain why it has to be as low as possible when this thing kicks off.
	Because it's an economic union, and maybe they're going to do...
	Let me see.
	I have an article here.
	Let me read through this for a second.
	I think from our perspective, we, our schemers, would be better off if the ruble was highest when it kicked off and then sink it then.
	Because then it would hurt the organization.
	Having the ruble low may have the opposite effect because it's not going to stay low forever.
	No.
	If you look at the charts, you're a chartist, you're a historian, and certainly when it comes to financials, looking at the collapse of oil prices, did that come just at the same time as the 2008 Great Recession?
	No, no.
	Oil prices went up.
	It's very recent, this collapse of oil prices.
	I mean, that's why it was so funny about it, because it's so recent and just so quick.
	What do you think?
	I think it's...
	I don't know.
	I've been thinking about it.
	I just haven't come up with a thesis.
	You're sitting around on a Wednesday night before the show thinking, hmm, what can I do?
	What is the deal with this oil collapse?
	Because it has a profound impact on all sorts of things.
	And I think it's a repeat of what we saw a couple of times now, especially in the 70s when the oil prices collapsed.
	And resulted in putting out of business all the shale oil people.
	Well, that's definitely going to happen.
	It's going to put a whole bunch of people out of business because they need oil to be in 60, 80.
	I know they need it typically to be over $80, but I think some of these crazy schemes, you need $100 oil to make it work.
	So you're not going to be pumping oil out of the ground.
	It's going to cost you $100 to pump it out, and you can sell it for $40 or $50.
	I believe the oil price is going to go down to $40, personally.
	Really?
	Yeah.
	It's traditional.
	It's a traditional price.
	It's a tradition.
	It's a tradition, and it'll give everybody...
	And the American stock market is getting flaky about this because, I don't know, but in fact it will stimulate the economy because people have more disposable income if they don't have to drop 75 bucks in their tank every time they go to the gas station or 100.
	We have, here in Texas, of course everything's much cheaper here, certainly taxation, etc.
	We are down $2.11, I saw.
	That's for...
	What's the premium?
	Premium is...
	It's got to be $2.30 still.
	That's the deal.
	Our best premium is about $2.80.
	Which is still good.
	Still very good.
	Very good.
	It was $5 when I left California.
	Almost $5.
	If not just over $5.
	For premium.
	It was a gyps.
	Yeah, it's Los Angeles.
	Gypsville.
	Then, of course...
	Nothing against gypsies when I say that, by the way.
	Absolutely not.
	Then, of course, we had this fantastic attack on chocolate in Australia.
	This was really a phenomenal event, this terrorist attack.
	And moreover, because we have such a large contingent of producers in Australia who were really feeding on sending reports and scouring the news, trying to come up with angles, etc.
	There had, of course, not recently, but a year earlier, there had been a drill in the exact same location, Martin's Place, for this exact scenario.
	Very convenient right across the way from the ABC studios where the morning show is presented live.
	Very, very funny, funny things that took place.
	Let me see.
	This is Ali.
	Are you still with me, John?
	Yeah.
	Okay, I didn't know.
	This is Ali Soufan.
	Ali Soufan, he comes on to, I guess it was the CNNs.
	Then he is an ex-FBI counterintelligence guy.
	I think he was on the National Counterintelligence Council.
	And he has a book out, of course.
	All the reasons to bring him in.
	But even he really couldn't make heads or tails of what was going on with this guy.
	All the things that are wrong, including the flag business.
	Yeah, that's interesting.
	Why?
	For a person who supposedly planned all this and he gets there and he said, oh, I got the wrong flag.
	I mean, something here doesn't make sense.
	Scrap!
	I got the wrong flag!
	It gives us an idea or at least an insight about the mentality of that individual.
	What?
	What are you thinking about his mentality?
	Well, it seems that he's all over the place.
	He's a criminal.
	He is trying to cover his crime using religion.
	And he seems under a lot of pressure from the court.
	He allegedly was involved in about dozens, at least.
	I forget the exact number.
	of sexual assaults and then possibly killing his wife.
	So he want to go down as a hero, not as a thug, and not as a criminal.
	It seems to me that there's something fishy about the individual.
	The investigation is still early on.
	I think I'll be very anxious to see what the Australian police are going to find out about the motivation, about why he did that.
	But the flag that he had with him is basically a black flag that has a shahada on it.
	You know, there's no God but God and Muhammad is his prophet.
	And that flag on black is basically the original flag of Al-Qaeda under Osama bin Laden.
	It is.
	Jabhat al-Nusra underneath it.
	It's the same one with Jabhat al-Nusra, the Nusra Front underneath it.
	And that indicates it is Al-Qaeda affiliated organization in Syria.
	The ISIS flag is a little bit different.
	It is black.
	It has the same terminology, but it has that circle at the bottom.
	And it's a little bit different than Al-Qaeda flag.
	It indicates the same Narrative.
	Both of them indicate the narrative of Osama bin Laden.
	Both of them indicate the narrative of bin Ladenism, if you want to call it.
	But it depends which flag you have.
	It indicates who's your leader, Baghdadi or Zawahiri.
	It's kind of interesting how they've tried a couple things here in Australia.
	I like the term Bin Ladenism.
	It's good, isn't it?
	I don't think this guy was not really prepared, I guess.
	He just came out and said all the things that he knew, that he really knows about.
	A lot of our producers pointed out that simultaneously with this terrorist attack, and the TV studios I saw in the chatroom was Channel 7, also a CNN affiliate, and CNN, of course, was all over this live continuously.
	A lot of people are saying, our producers have been sending me links about the budget, the midterm budget being presented at the exact same moment, which was $10 billion Australian dollars over budget, which apparently was not expected and was worth covering up if this had anything to do with it.
	And the report that Australia has now committed...
	I had already committed before this happened, I presume, 1.3 billion Australian dollars to fight Islamic State terror in Iraq.
	And, of course, you need buy-in from the public.
	And we tried the actors who were running around pretending that they were going to behead people.
	That didn't work very well.
	Remember that?
	Yeah.
	The guy was an actor.
	He was an actual actor.
	Yeah.
	So, that didn't work, and now the headlines are, you know, we are no longer innocent.
	We are now a part of this.
	It was a screwy event.
	Mike Murrell was on the, I think, was he on the CBS Morning Show?
	Mike Murrell, of course, former CIA director.
	He came on, was asked to comment on this.
	We're going to see this kind of terrorism around the world, and we are going to see it here, Nora.
	We are going to see this kind of attack here, and we need to be prepared for that.
	You know, it shouldn't surprise people when this happens here sometime over the next year or so.
	Guaranteed.
	Guaranteed, he says.
	It's the Mike Moreau.
	This is like the guarantee that we picked up.
	I was in 2008.
	I got to get that clip.
	I have it.
	I have the clip.
	Hold on a second.
	It was...
	What do we call it again?
	It was...
	Feinstein grilling people about having a massive 9-11-like advantage within the next six months.
	Now, didn't I save that as a...
	Yeah, you played it about a month or two ago.
	Right, so I'm trying to think that I... It'd be Feinstein, it would be...
	Yeah, hold on a second.
	Attack the Homeland.
	Homeland might be one of the keywords.
	Wouldn't it be...
	It would be Feinstein, I think.
	Yeah, Feinstein is one of her committees.
	I've done a great job.
	Good work.
	Yeah, you're welcome.
	I don't know.
	I'm sorry.
	I don't know how I messed that up.
	Anyway, she asked all these hot shots, you know, the head of this, the head of that, would there be a terrorist attack like 9-11 in the next six months?
	And every one of them said, absolutely yes!
	It's coming.
	I'm still waiting.
	And that was how long ago?
	I think that was in 2008.
	Wow.
	So now, you know, it was about, what...
	Six years ago, and they were still waiting.
	Unless you want to call these bullcrap events, you know, something.
	But they're not.
	Well, I will store this Mike Morrell clip right next to her so we can't play either one in the future.
	That'll be great.
	I'm sorry about that.
	Phillip Mudd?
	No, Phillip Mudd.
	Why do I know this name?
	M-U-D-D. I know his name, too.
	In fact, I think I had a Phillip Mudd clip.
	I have a Phillip Mudd clip.
	He's been floating around for some reason.
	Let me look him up.
	He must be a former CIA guy.
	Of course.
	Yeah, CIA guy.
	He's very TV-ready.
	And, of course, he's part of the pundit program.
	So they rolled him out for this.
	I remember sitting at the table at the agency.
	We used to do nightly threat briefings with Director Tenet, the CIA director, in 2002, 2003.
	And I remember one thing happening that I never anticipated.
	I thought we were facing the architects of 911.
	Then we started to see attacks in Saudi Arabia, attacks in East Africa, attacks in Madrid, attacks in London.
	And I started thinking we were not only facing al-Qaeda, we were facing affiliated organizations across Africa into the Philippines, into London.
	And then something happened in about 2008, Anderson.
	We started to see in Minneapolis, Minnesota, in New York, across this country, we started to see individuals.
	You remember on the West Coast, a kid who was thinking about attacking a Christmas tree ceremony.
	We're seeing the genesis of a revolutionary movement that is not connected to a core group.
	And if you want to try to find those guys, have a good time, because I don't know how you do.
	Have a good time.
	Unfoundable.
	Philip Mudd was the guy that was cited specifically by the chief of staff of Colin Powell.
	Oh, right, right, right, right, right.
	He called Tenet a liar.
	He lied directly to Colin Powell, and Mudd was in that same group.
	Yeah.
	And he was sickened by mud.
	He says he's tired of him.
	Good guy.
	It's a very funny clip.
	Good guy, this mud guy.
	This mud guy is a complete stooge.
	Everybody is a stooge.
	I saw on ABC World News Tonight, they are now using Radio Free Europe Radio Liberty footage.
	They're literally taking the propaganda arm of America, taking their footage, and putting it on the domestic news.
	Yeah.
	With a chyron.
	It's legal.
	No, it's not illegal.
	It used to be.
	It used to be.
	R-F-E-R-L. This is the...
	In fact, if you look at...
	I saved this page.
	Hold on a second.
	About Cuba.
	I think it was...
	Maybe it was about Cuba?
	Let me see.
	Um...
	No, I'm sorry.
	It was about Ukraine.
	That's what it was.
	It's called Who Are Ukraine's New Foreign-Born Ministers?
	Just to give you the idea of what's going on here.
	This is Radio Free Europe, Radio Liberty, which I think many people are confused.
	I think that It's very unclear that this is a United States State Department-sponsored, paid-for operation.
	I believe millennials think, oh, this must be like the radical guys.
	They're fighting for freedom, press freedom, radio-free Europe, free Europe, free liberty!
	And they do this rundown.
	They say three foreigners, Natalie Jerezko, Alvaro Abramovicius, and Alexander Kvitsavili, were approved as ministers by Ukraine's parliament on December 2nd.
	So these are the people that received citizenship overnight.
	But they don't say that in their article.
	They just say, hey, you know, this is who they are.
	This is why they're qualified.
	This is why they're great for the country.
	Whereas we look at this news and go, holy crap, we are literally putting our people, former State Department people, into the government, but that's not how this propaganda works.
	It's fascinating.
	Great time to be alive.
	Here's Pooper.
	Anderson Pooper.
	This is my last.
	Before we leave Mudd.
	No, I was going to go back to Mudd, but okay.
	Okay, good.
	Because I have, I think I'm going to send you the link.
	I'm going to send it on Skype.
	Or should I email it?
	No, you can do it on Skype.
	Okay, I'll send it on Skype.
	This is a Mudd in 2013 on the Colbert show showing, apparently he never heard of the Colbert show, so this makes for nothing but awkward humor.
	And the guy's just acting like a dick.
	Did you send it to me yet?
	No, not yet.
	I'm going to do that now.
	You want me to play that?
	No, I want you to play it and see what it is.
	Play your clip first.
	Oh, okay.
	But send me that link already.
	I'm trying to get to this page.
	This is...
	The guy's name is...
	Yes, received.
	That wasn't loud at all.
	I didn't hear it.
	Well, might as well just go straight into this.
	I think it's playing.
	Welcome back, everybody.
	My guest tonight is an intelligence analyst who has worked at both the CIA It's a seven-minute clip.
	Should we just see how long it lasts until we're bored?
	Yeah.
	That means both of his shoes are phones.
	Please welcome Philip Mudd!
	And apparently Mudd's not having any of it.
	Because Mudd didn't know how the hell the show works?
	Yeah, probably.
	What an idiot.
	All right, Philip Mudd, 25 years in the intelligence world, deputy director of the CIA's Counter-Terrorist Center from 2003 to 2005, then became the FBI's senior intelligence advisor, and you've got a new book here called Takedown Inside the Hunt for Al-Qaeda.
	That's right.
	Do we really take down Al-Qaeda, or should it be called Spread Out Inside the Scattering of Al-Qaeda?
	No, I think if you looked at the adversary we faced 12 years ago, it bears no resemblance to what we see today.
	The problem is that we don't face an al-Qaeda group today.
	We face the remnants of a revolution.
	All right.
	I'll skim it for later.
	I don't think it's...
	I'll take a look at it later and see if I can get a clip out of it.
	Apparently he just can't get it that this is a comedy show.
	He doesn't see the irony.
	Alright, now we're going to this guy, Majid Navas.
	Majid Navas, I actually put his wiki page in the show notes here.
	He is a, I think he's a liberal democrat parliamentarian, parliamentary candidate for Hampstead and Kilburn, BRIT. A founder of Krillium, a counter-extremism think tank, himself a former member of the Islamist revolutionary group Hizbut Tahrir.
	He's a go-to guy.
	He came over to the good side of history.
	And breezy enough for Anderson Pooper to ask him all about this terror attack in Australia and what should be done about it and what is going on here.
	And he has a new term.
	Law enforcement has been saying that this type of lone wolf attack is the ones that they're most concerned with.
	Do you believe it's a mistake to call this guy a lone wolf?
	Yes, I think it is a mistake.
	I would use the term self-starter, but the reason I think...
	A self-starter?
	What, is he a salesman?
	He's going to mention this a couple of times.
	It's a self-starter.
	Lone wolf is out.
	Self-starter is a more appropriate term.
	But the reason I think...
	A self-starter.
	Yes, and I think it doesn't necessarily describe the phenomenon correctly, to use the term lone wolf.
	What we saw was a metastasization of the phenomenon, and our worst nightmares came true, and ISIL emerged, because what we're really dealing with here is a fundamental inspiration for Muslims to sympathize with the idea of creating or resurrecting the so-called caliphate and instituting theocracy in Muslim-majority countries.
	And calling it a caliphate is something we have to make very unpopular, and that's a challenge.
	And you've always said it's not enough for Muslims to simply say, well, look, I don't believe in beheading hostages.
	You say people have to go farther than that.
	If we expect non-Muslims to speak out against anti-Muslim bigotry, and as was evidenced in this I'll Ride With You hashtag campaign on Twitter, how many times do we see Muslims starting such hashtags to say, actually, we condemn Islamist and jihadist terrorism?
	Instead, what we find is many of my co-religionists say, I've got nothing to do with this.
	Why should I condemn it?
	It's not in my name.
	But if we have that expectation of non-Muslims to condemn things such as racism, to condemn things such as anti-Muslim hate, likewise we have to step up to our own responsibilities.
	This hostage-taker, his former attorney, says that this is a one-off random individual not acting in concert with anyone.
	Do you think it's dangerous to kind of just kind of say, okay, well, this is a one-off thing?
	Absolutely.
	It's very dangerous.
	I mean, look, we have the school shootings in America as a phenomenon.
	And again, they aren't one-off.
	But there is a difference here.
	And the difference is that in the case of Islamist-inspired self-starters...
	Self-starters!
	Islamist-inspired self-starters.
	Why do you think he's pushing this meme, this self-starter meme?
	As opposed to Lone Wolf.
	Yeah.
	Well, Lone Wolf hasn't really worked, I guess.
	It's just no one's afraid of Lone Wolf.
	Yeah, but Self-Starter's not going to work if Lone Wolf didn't work.
	It sounds like if you read any want ad for somebody employed, you're looking for a Self-Starter.
	Looking for a terrorist?
	No, they're looking for some guy who doesn't have to be told what to do every second.
	Exactly!
	So the definition is right.
	A self-starter.
	An ideology underneath it that inspires multiple one-offs.
	And at what stage do these multiple one-offs stop becoming one-offs and we start recognizing that we're dealing with a phenomenon of the atomization of self-starterism as terrorists?
	Self-starterism?
	Yes, it goes along with Bin Laden.
	Self-starterism?
	Yes, it's Bin Ladenism and self-starterism.
	Wow.
	This is good.
	Show title?
	Self-starterism.
	I was thinking, as I heard this clip, I was watching this interview.
	Truly, this is the problem with the industrial technology society.
	Because, it's just like this divorce crap.
	Because of the speed of information flow.
	You're really bugged by that divorce thing.
	I think it's cute.
	It's not cute, because they maybe look ugly.
	They look really stupid.
	I haven't seen the picture.
	It's horrible.
	I'd like to see it.
	I'll put it in the newsletter for people out there.
	And the copy, actually, it pretty much says, well, he's a podcaster in Austin.
	No wonder.
	No wonder she wants nothing to do with it.
	Old media.
	Yeah, they're finally getting a clue.
	Yeah.
	I'm just saying that what...
	This is just the beginning.
	Life is going to get much crazier.
	Much, much crazier.
	I had my teacher's journalism at the Arizona State University, and he's always been fascinated by the podcast because he sees it for what it is.
	This is the future of journalism.
	Yeah, thank you.
	And last time I sent him something, he says, oh, because I've been, you know, he's just stunned because he knows what we're doing is the right thing to do.
	Noagendaplayer.com.
	I need to remind people this is a fantastic resource.
	I think I've put it back on the homepage of the show notes.
	You can go, and someone's annotating the shows.
	Not transcribed, but annotating.
	You can contribute to that.
	You go to noagendaplayer.com.
	You pick the episode.
	You say, oh, okay, here's the topic.
	Click.
	And it gives you a link, even if...
	It's not one of the annotated topics.
	As the show is playing, you can stop it and there's a link to that exact spot in the show.
	And you can tweet it, email it.
	This is a great resource for exactly this reason.
	So the Dutch paper, you know, they're a bunch of old hacks and they know that their days are numbered, which they are.
	And although in Europe it's taking longer than it took here, we pretty much wiped out everything except the New York Times, Washington Post, which is now owned by Jeff Bezos.
	So they have a, you know, at least a sugar daddy to keep them going.
	But that's what you need now.
	You have to have a sugar daddy or you're just not going to stay in business.
	Right.
	I'd settle for a sugar daddy.
	Yeah, well, I'm sure you would.
	I say no to this.
	A couple other great little articles that were, of course, snowed under by all of this fantastic news from Australia, which really, really helped.
	Because, of course, we are now on high alert because of this.
	Here's a headline.
	Islamic State extremists are training five-year-olds for combat in Syria.
	I like that one.
	I thought it was a valiant effort.
	But my favorite, my favorite one, and I wish I had a clip.
	Five-year-olds?
	Yes, they're training.
	Can you ever talk to a five-year-old?
	Anyway, go on.
	Yeah, I talked to a five-year-old, and you know what the five-year-old said to me?
	Boo-shaka-laka.
	Boo-shaka-laka!
	Terrorist right there.
	Self-starter.
	Self-starter.
	I wish I had an audio clip of this.
	I don't.
	Islamic State militants are launching bombs containing live scorpions as the latest terror weapon in Iraq.
	A winner.
	That's fantastic.
	That is one of the best things I've heard ever.
	Very, very happy with that.
	Yeah.
	Very happy.
	That was a classic.
	I remember the scorpion clip.
	It's funny.
	There was...
	I think I had something else.
	Maybe I don't have it.
	Well, then of course we had Pakistan.
	And this made me...
	Well, I hate to say it.
	It's not like I really smiled.
	But this is exactly what our expert...
	Uh, known as the Pakistani guy who runs the liquor store on the corner.
	It's exactly what he said.
	Do you remember what he said?
	No.
	The terrorists, he said, the terrorists are coming.
	We know where they are.
	It's just a matter of time before we have a terrorist attack in Pakistan.
	He said this not two weeks ago when we talked about it on the show.
	Yeah.
	He knew it was coming.
	They all knew it was coming.
	Everyone knows what's going on over there.
	They talk politics in the coffee shops.
	We don't do that.
	We talk about the Kardashians and the size of their enormous rear ends.
	John McCain took immediate advantage of this attack in Pakistan.
	You know, when you go after civilians, everyone is horrified at the viciousness.
	This went to children.
	It just gets even worse, doesn't it?
	It gets worse, and also it's going to be a lot worse unless we leave a force behind rather than removing everybody from Afghanistan.
	We'll see the Iraq movie again, and you'll see the Taliban inflicting more of these kinds of heinous, outrageous...
	Gene is the penis!
	...attacks and murder and mayhem that they are capable of.
	The United States should be talking about a stabilizing force behind in Afghanistan to give them the capabilities that they don't have right now and won't have when we, quote, leave.
	It should be a conditioned space to withdraw, not a date-driven withdrawal.
	And that way we can work more closely with the Pakistanis.
	I've been encouraged by the new head chief of the Pakistani army.
	The prime minister seems to be serious.
	They did carry out these exercises in Waziristan against the Taliban.
	So I think we can get greater cooperation.
	But right now...
	They have a sanctuary, and frankly, there's attacks in the wintertime, which is unusual, in Kabul and Helmand and other places.
	The Taliban has stepped up those attacks, and casualties have been larger, showing that we must leave a force behind.
	Oh, wrong somebody!
	Please think of the children!
	He's all about leaving the force behind.
	More force behind.
	We need some dudes there.
	We can't draw down, now that he's going to be running the committee.
	Oh, yeah, once he's on the head.
	Yeah, as soon as that happens.
	He's going to be running everything.
	These C-SPAN clips are going to be much more entertaining.
	And this wasn't even C-SPAN. No, I'm talking about the C-SPAN clips of the committee meetings.
	Oh, oh.
	The cane's running.
	It's going to be much more entertaining.
	That'd be great.
	There is good news in all of this.
	There is opportunity.
	John, if this podcasting thing doesn't work out for us, there is a plan B, and it was sent to me by one of our peerage members.
	And I have a promotional clip.
	From the intelligencecommunity.com website.
	So you're looking for a job in national security.
	Perhaps you're a recent graduate, or a veteran, or a government employee in between jobs, or a stay-at-home spouse.
	It would be nice to find a permanent job in national security or in the government, but it seems like everything requires you to have a clearance and work out of an office building.
	Nowadays, so much of what we do can be done remotely, especially when it comes to analyzing and managing information, translation services, proposal writing, geopolitical consulting, business development, recruiting, and the list goes on.
	Why not do it remotely?
	As a freelancer, theintelligencecommunity.com is a new online marketplace currently under construction that will help you find these types of opportunities.
	There's opportunities abound, John!
	Freelance!
	Part-time from home!
	Huh.
	We can do this.
	Oh, yeah.
	Proposal writing is a thrill.
	Still...
	Well, if you go to just intelligence.gov...
	Yeah.
	They have a bunch of the same...
	This other thing sounds like it's kind of a copy of intelligence.gov, which is a government thing.
	Our mission careers, a lot of stuff on careers.
	Yeah.
	Best places to work in the federal government.
	But the sixth is a good one.
	The 2014 Best Places to Work in the Federal Government.
	For the sixth consecutive year, the intelligence community, IC, was honored as one of the top ten best places to work in the federal government, according to an independent analysis of federal workers' job satisfaction and commitment.
	Nice.
	George W. Bush has canceled his trip to Switzerland.
	Over fears he might be arrested on torture charges.
	He was going to...
	Does it say that?
	Yes.
	It says that?
	That's the headline.
	Let me see who wrote this.
	Hold on.
	Daily Mail, sorry.
	That's not that great.
	But he was supposed to go to Switzerland, to Geneva, for a charity gala.
	A keynote speaker at the Jewish Charity Gala in Geneva on February 12th.
	According to this report, pressure has been building on the Swiss government to arrest him and open a criminal investigation if he enters the country.
	So that has been cancelled.
	Weiss never ceases to amaze me.
	They have coming up, I have not seen it yet, an exclusive interview, exclusive, with a psychologist who Not named in the torture report confirming his role in CIA interrogations in the program.
	These vice guys, they get scoop after scoop.
	How do they do it?
	I don't know.
	Stop.
	That was a medical procedure.
	I'm not a doctor and neither are you.
	I'm a doctor, not an escalator.
	So am I spoiled by donating to no agenda.
	Imagine all the people who could do that.
	Oh, yeah, that'd be fab.
	Yeah, on no agenda in the morning.
	Ah, yes, McCoy clips.
	Who knew?
	I love it.
	We want to thank a few people here for helping us out on show 679, starting with Chris Gromoli, or Grimole, I'm sorry, Chris Grommel, I'm guessing, Port Ewan, New York, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5.
	Mm-hmm.
	Finally stopped freeloading, he says, and finally donated.
	He's dedouching.
	And a karma.
	We'll give the karma at the end.
	You've been dedouched.
	Aichi Kitagawa in San Francisco, also 12345.
	He says, my wife and I are visiting Osaka, Japan, expecting our first human resource very soon.
	Pain-free karma.
	We'll give you karma at the end.
	He's in Osaka.
	Villa Strauss, Cape Town.
	This is nice.
	1, 2, 3, 4, 5.
	He's into the sequential numbers.
	That's pretty cool.
	Karma will be at the end.
	Brandon Stewart, Dallas, Texas.
	$100.
	Pedro Villafane.
	I don't know.
	B-I-L-L-A-F-A-N-E in Sepulpa, Oklahoma.
	$100.
	Timothy Lauder Milk in Boca Raton, Florida.
	$100.
	Sebastian Lambinon in Alicante, Spain.
	Oh, nice.
	$75.
	Randolph Dedell in Albuquerque, New Mexico.
	Or Didel.
	John, my last name is Didel.
	And he says thanks to you for the QSO last night on Reflector 33C. That's right.
	33Charlie.
	K5RHD. That's right.
	I was just...
	He's listened since show number one, he said.
	He has been...
	I think he's been an associate producer...
	I feel sorry.
	Yeah, that's terrible.
	I was just hanging out, you know, and I got the dual reflectors going on.
	You got the dual reflectors, yeah.
	The dual reflectors, yeah.
	33 charge.
	Kilo 5, real high definition.
	You know, it's funny.
	I participated a Kickstarter...
	For my birthday, I went to Amsterdam to celebrate my 50th, and for the first time, the Digital Ham Conference Tapper, which is actually Tucson, Arizona, Digital Ham, whatever, was in Austin, so I missed that.
	And there's this guy who is Ham Nation Today, or whatever it's called, and he does a podcast, a video podcast, and he did a Kickstarter to tape all of the sessions.
	I'm like, this is great!
	What a great value!
	So I gave him whatever one of the levels was.
	And somehow he's turned that into a no agenda donation.
	So at the start of every one of these sessions that he's videotaped and produced, he does this whole thing and plays the opening from our show and talks about us being hams and about the show.
	It's not a show about ham radio, but we mention it.
	We got the no agenda hams and all this stuff.
	It's pretty funny.
	We have a lot of hams.
	We are.
	We are.
	We are hammeisters.
	We're the hammeisters.
	Richard Chow in Fullerton, California, 69-69.
	We've got a karma at the end for you.
	Sir Rick in Arlington, Washington, 69-33.
	Aaron Heath in St.
	Agnes, South Australia, 63.
	Karma coming for you.
	Kevin Dills, 55, double nickels on the dime in Charlotte, North Carolina.
	Steven Schwartz in Schertz, Texas.
	Where is that?
	I don't know.
	Double nickels on the dime.
	And he says, Merry Christmas, mofos.
	Joseph Monty in Pittsfield, Massachusetts.
	Double nickels on the dime.
	Thomas Goetz in Dortmund, Deutschland.
	I've been to Dortmund.
	They have a good beer there.
	Double Nichols on the Dime.
	Jason Fortune, Double Nichols on the Dime.
	Parts Unknown.
	Simon Reed, Double Nichols on the Dime.
	This is interesting.
	In New York City.
	Let's see what he's got.
	He's got something.
	PayPal says you canceled my subscription, but it wasn't true.
	So he upgraded to the $33.33 a month subscription and throwing in a double nickels on the dime to help make up for whatever the losses were there.
	Because no people don't know this happened, or if they find out about it, it's always like later.
	It's really one of the strangest things that PayPal does.
	It makes no sense if you have a subscription to anything and your credit card expires or it gets cancelled or anything like that.
	And perhaps for other reasons we don't know, then you will not be notified.
	But if you go looking, it will say, oh, the No Agenda show cancelled your subscription.
	Talk to them.
	Yeah, and believe me, we may be not the smartest apples in the bunch, but we ain't canceling no subscriptions.
	No, why would we?
	It makes no sense.
	I don't like that guy's name.
	Let's just cancel it.
	Well, you are the guy who blocks people everywhere.
	Do you know how many emails I get?
	Hey, man.
	I wish John would unblock me already.
	From email.
	He's blocked me on email.
	Well, I guess I can't communicate with him.
	You can always send a note to Adam.
	No, no.
	John at Curry.
	It's the same thing.
	Just send it to John at Curry.com.
	It'll still be blocked.
	Anonymous in Milton, Ontario.
	These are all $50 donors.
	Um...
	He's donating because you correctly spelled a lot as two words in your newsletter.
	If there's any reason to get somebody to donate, that's pretty the most obscure.
	A lot.
	Sir Mitch Bidron in Long Beach, California.
	Now we have him down for a birthday call out.
	Andrew Haverson in Gravenhurst, Ontario.
	$50.
	Dave Evans right there in Austin, Texas.
	My buddy Dave up on the hill.
	Dave travels.
	He travels a lot for his business.
	He's in Europe all the time.
	I'm sure it's keeping him sane and his wife and their lovely son.
	Michael Gates in Colorado Springs, Colorado.
	Rosalind Furness in Turnbridge Wells.
	Tunbridge Wells.
	Oh, Tunbridge, right, not Turnbridge.
	That's a woodworking shop in the UK. Amitav Hajira in Daleville, Virginia.
	John Camp in Antlers, Oklahoma.
	Great name for a town.
	Chris Lewinsky in Sherwood Park, Alberta.
	Isn't that Sir Chris by now?
	It is Sir Chris, I'm pretty sure.
	People, put your peerage titles on your donations.
	Help us out.
	Yeah, and when you do it through the banks, just put it at the top as a note.
	There's notes that you can put in that go on each check, and then it usually reminds us.
	Stacey St.
	Amand in Kingston, Ontario.
	And finally, last but not least, Zachary Stanko in...
	Omaha, Nebraska, home of Warren Buffett.
	And he sent a note in.
	Let's see if there's anything he wants us to read.
	Thanks so much for all you do.
	The Valve provided by the No Agenda Show in helping us cope with the globalists.
	Total victory is well worth the check for $50 and close my first donation.
	And he needs a de-douching because of this being a doucher.
	You've been de-douched.
	Alrighty then.
	Yeah, you should give everyone a karma, and then this guy actually requests something Mickey would like, even though Mickey's not on the show.
	What is that?
	I don't know what you'd like.
	Oh, just anything that Mickey would like?
	Yeah.
	That's a very good question.
	I have no idea which...
	I don't think we ever really discussed what jingle she would like.
	She probably doesn't like jingles.
	Not everybody likes jingles.
	No, that's true.
	I don't know.
	I didn't mean to mention this to Buffalo U. Just play something we much or something that's fine.
	Anything from Sharpton, I'm sure she gets a kick out of.
	Hmm.
	No, I'd rather play...
	I'll play something else.
	And then I'll go into the karma.
	I'll do a jobs karma because people need that all the time.
	ISIS. We will follow them to the gates of hell.
	ISIS. I feel good!
	Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
	Let's vote for jobs!
	We need to catalog the songs.
	Because everyone says, oh, something Dvorak would pick.
	I would pick that one.
	That's an outstanding...
	Isn't that great?
	We do have a lot of songs.
	We have a lot of songs.
	I'll play you the Ukraine one again.
	I get the biggest kick out of that.
	I'll play you the long version.
	He sent me a short version.
	And I have another one, actually.
	Oh, boy.
	I love that.
	That's the shit right there.
	Eric Clapton on the line.
	And this was...
	Oh, this is a new one as well.
	If you want to do a song.
	This is about...
	It's from Hugh Allison.
	About Eric Holder.
	You got to know Eric Holder.
	Eric Holder.
	Has a secret folder.
	Secret folder.
	But he wants to walk away from selling him the guns.
	He always likes to play the race card.
	Whenever he is able, there'll be time enough for coming clean.
	When Barack is done, everyone considered him the coward of the cabinet.
	Oh, that's...
	Hello, everybody.
	Country Radio bringing it to you right now.
	Dvorak.org slash N-A It's your birthday birthday Oh no, I can't First off, we have an anniversary Chris Cook says happy anniversary to his lovely hot wife, Lucy, celebrating on the 19th tomorrow.
	Belated birthday to James Ogilvie, celebrated on the 14th.
	And birthdays today, Sir Hedmofo in charge, 32, he turns on December 19th.
	Chris Cook says happy birthday to his son, Nicholas, celebrating on the 20th.
	And Sir Mitch Bidron says happy birthday to his daughter, Samantha, and wishes her a happy 14th birthday, as do all of us here at The Best Podcast in the Universe.
	No changes in titles, no nightings, no nothing else going on today.
	Oh, that's too bad.
	Yeah, well, it happens.
	Let me see.
	We had our break.
	I'm just trying to figure out the time here.
	Okay.
	I think we're okay.
	Oh, let's see.
	I got a good segue.
	All right.
	Seg.
	Seg away, baby.
	Mega Ratzilla.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	They prowl in the night, thrive on trash and human waste, and once they move into an area, they're almost impossible to eliminate.
	Now, an exceptionally huge rat has been spotted on the outskirts of New York City.
	Was it just one stray super-sized rodent?
	Or a sign that a big wave of mega rats is ready to take a bite out of the Big Apple?
	It's something to think about a pound and a half rodent running around your home.
	But think about a six or seven pound rodent running around.
	That probably would send shivers up anybody's spine.
	Great segue, John.
	It's happening.
	Yeah, like the killer bees.
	Six-pound rodents.
	Rats.
	Six-pound rats.
	Let's get that straight.
	Got a note from John Calvin Jones, Ph.D., J.D. This is a professor of law.
	Am I correct there?
	Doctor of Law.
	Doctor of Law.
	Is that...
	Well, PhD, that's...
	PhD is a professor of something else.
	PhD, JD, it says.
	Yeah, that means he got a PhD in something and went off to get his JD. He's got two degrees, two big ones.
	Big ones, big ones, big ones.
	Well, that is not so good news for you.
	Why?
	Well, he says, you are correct.
	John did not listen to the full implications of the idea of an anonymous vote.
	I'll skip all the...
	I'll skip everything, and let's go to the end, so please tell...
	John, Andy and no agenda producers and listeners, that I, a PhD in political science, University of Iowa 2003, recognize that you, a true and professional legislative analyst, are correct, sir.
	That is, at least, at the subcommittee and committee level, anonymous votes would reduce the influence of corporate control of federal legislation and or reduce the divergence between congressional voting and the public preferences.
	I think it would make it worse.
	Do you have a PhD in political science?
	I don't.
	I do not.
	Do you have a PhD in English?
	I don't have a PhD.
	Who has a PhD in English?
	Let me ask you a question, you do not.
	Okay, ask.
	Ask.
	I just thought that was nice.
	You can disagree with a PhD.
	I mean, it's the University of Iowa.
	Of course you have to.
	It's by law.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Let's see.
	Oh, the native advertising thing you caught on Toys R Us?
	Yeah.
	That's spreading everywhere.
	Walmart has been using it.
	Everyone's trying to do the same scam.
	Oh, this is great!
	Here it is.
	Mystery Man pays $50,000 in Walmart layaway bill.
	And listen to the story.
	Nearly 100 patrons of a Pennsylvania Walmart...
	Had an early Christmas gift given to them by a mystery man who dropped off a $50,000 check to pay off the store's layaway bills.
	And notice they don't say, of Chick-Shinney, Pennsylvania, on the corner of First and Main.
	It's just a Pennsylvania Walmart.
	Please.
	How insulting.
	Oh, that way...
	Yeah, that way nobody can check on this story as being bogus.
	Exactly.
	And it's all over the place.
	It's crazy.
	Crazy.
	Oh, the Kony.
	This is strange.
	Kony?
	Yeah, Kony.
	You talking about Kony 2012?
	Yeah, Kony 2012.
	The guy they should have captured by now because we can do all these.
	We're a very powerful country.
	If we wanted to get him, we could get him because we have spy satellites everywhere and the NSA's plugged into everything so we could track this guy down and grab him as soon as that video came out.
	You mean that guy?
	Yeah, and we have two Ospreys, the tilt rotor aircraft, 300 advisors and consultants.
	Helping track down the Lord's Revolution army in hiding.
	Meanwhile, Invisible Children.
	This is the non-profit that produced the video.
	You'll recall the founder of this was a video producer guy.
	And he more or less raised all this money to create videos and make them go viral.
	They're shutting down.
	They're closing down the operation.
	Didn't work.
	And we're always skeptical about the viral aspect of it, too.
	We're announcing today that the Invisible Children you've known is changing.
	We're downsizing the bulk of our U.S. programs and operations at the end of the year to prioritize our political advocacy and Central Africa programs through 2015.
	This is the guy who was running around naked, jumping on cars.
	She says it wasn't me.
	It wasn't me.
	It was an outer body experience.
	By mid-2012, they had $26.5 million in revenue, $17 million in net assets.
	It's incredible.
	Holy mackerel.
	By mid-2013, of course, this is when the meltdown happened.
	The organization had $4.9 million in revenue, less than $6.6 million in assets.
	Where'd all that money go?
	Making videos.
	And apparently a lot of crystal meth or whatever else the guy was on when he freaked out.
	That's a lot of money.
	Yeah, a lot of money to blow through when you're just a phony operation like that.
	Yeah.
	It's what it is.
	Um, I have...
	I have a clip here we can play as another segue.
	Although you won't play the Another Parliament clip to its end where they're booing.
	Why not?
	How about Breaking Bad TV tour?
	I thought this was kind of interesting.
	I had no idea people were this stupid.
	Nominally successful TV drama Breaking Bad put Albuquerque, New Mexico firmly on the map.
	Well, since then, the city has become something of a pilgrimage site for the show's fans.
	Breaking Bad's success had a positive impact on the local economy, but after five seasons and 62 episodes, it's now off-air.
	Well, local government is trying to keep people interested.
	The series has ended, but the famous RV from Breaking Bad is still alive and kicking.
	At least a replica of it is.
	This one isn't a meth lab, it's a tourist bus.
	Over to my left is the Crossroads Hotel, used in almost every season.
	These fans paid $75 for the Breaking Bad RV Tour.
	Wow, there's hope for us, John!
	There's hope!
	William Sturdy!
	All the time!
	All the time!
	That's how it ends.
	There's no booing.
	Yeah, did you hear the booing?
	Not really.
	There were three rounds of booing.
	Boo, boo, and boo.
	That's what they were doing.
	They were booing.
	I received a document.
	That's a rude operation, that thing.
	What thing?
	The parliament.
	Well, fine.
	Can't they just be quiet and let people speak?
	No, I think I like it.
	I think it's fun.
	It's entertaining to watch.
	Show.
	It's not even interesting.
	I received a document from the Lincoln, Nebraska school system.
	And, of course, schools have changed dramatically, particularly with what I would call cultural Marxism, but really political correctness and how teachers should be educating our children.
	And this was sent to me.
	This is about the gender spectrum.
	The continuum of sex and gender.
	And this brings together knowledge of biology, which of course is anatomy, chromosomes, hormones.
	I have a little graph here where you have male on the left, female on the right, and intersex in the middle.
	This is the school document.
	Gender identity, psychological sense of self, two-spirit, third gender, agender.
	Hey, no agender.
	Gender expression, sexual orientation, and then there's 12 easy steps on the way to gender inclusiveness.
	I don't know if they're rules or recommendations for the Lincoln, Nebraska school system, but I thought maybe we should discuss a few of them.
	I think this is a great idea.
	Number one.
	Avoid asking kids to line up as boys or girls or separating them by gender.
	Instead, use things like odd and even birth date or which would you choose?
	Skateboards or bikes?
	Milk or juice?
	Dogs or cats?
	Summer or winter?
	talking or listening.
	Invite students to come up with choices themselves.
	Consider using tools like the appointment schedule to form pairs or groups.
	Always ask yourself, will this configuration create a gendered space?
	What?
	Um, yeah.
	The teachers must always ask themselves, will this configuration create a gendered space?
	What does that mean?
	I don't know.
	Gender space.
	Gendered.
	Gendered space.
	Just like I said, gender.
	No, it's gendered with E-D at the end.
	Gendered.
	Yes, gendered space.
	Oh, gendered space.
	Will this create a gendered space?
	Meaning, will this create...
	What does that mean?
	I don't know.
	I'm looking.
	There's no definitions.
	I do see at the bottom of this, they have a gingerbread man.
	And it's called the Genderbread Person.
	Fuck me.
	A Genderbread Man?
	And it's called the Genderbread Person.
	Genderbread.
	Not gingerbread.
	It's a gingerbread cookie.
	But they call it the Genderbread Person.
	You have to see it.
	Never mind.
	Genderbread?
	Let me move on.
	B-R-E-D or B-R-E-A-D? B-R-E-A-D. So gender...
	Gender bread.
	No, gender bread.
	It makes no sense.
	What is this?
	What are they trying to do?
	Well, let's go to number two on the list while we're at it.
	Don't use phrases such as boys and girls, you guys, ladies and gentlemen, and similarly gendered expression to get kids' attention.
	Instead, say things like calling all readers, or hey campers, or could all of the athletes come here?
	Who in a classroom says ladies and gentlemen?
	I like hay campers.
	Hey campers.
	Create classroom names, then ask all of the purple penguins to meet at the rug.
	What?
	This is a joke.
	No, no.
	You're accepting from The Onion.
	Hello?
	No, it's not The Onion.
	I'm sorry, man.
	This is real.
	No.
	Yes.
	No.
	Okay.
	It can't be.
	It's real.
	Yes.
	This is very real.
	I like...
	Why don't you say, hey, slaves?
	That would be better.
	That would work.
	I think that's the way to go.
	Say, slaves.
	Hello, slaves!
	Number three.
	Provide an opportunity for every student to identify a preferred name or pronoun.
	At the beginning of the year or at a back-to-school night, invite students and parents to let you know if they have a preferred name and or pronoun by which they wish to be referred.
	Hey, you?
	What would the preferred pronoun be?
	My name's Sue?
	I mean, I'm not sure what this is trying to get people to do.
	I don't know.
	Let us go to number four on the list.
	Have visual images reinforcing gender inclusion.
	Pictures of people who don't fit gender norms.
	Signs that strike out.
	Sayings like, all boys, or all girls, or all genders welcome.
	Well, gender's welcome.
	Yeah.
	When you find it necessary, this is number five, when you find it necessary to reference gender, say, boy, girl, both, or neither.
	Neither?
	Or neither.
	Boy, girl, both, or neither, so you can say, so what do you want to be called?
	Ah, both.
	Yeah.
	But then what do you call somebody?
	Hey, both, get over here.
	I mean, what do you call it?
	When asked why, use this as a teachable moment.
	Emphasize to students that your classroom recognizes and celebrates the gender diversity of all students.
	You celebrate.
	That's right.
	Six.
	Do you like this?
	You want to do some more?
	It's only 12.
	I was reading them all.
	It's just disgusting as hell.
	Point out and inquire when...
	No wonder the country's going downhill.
	Oh, yeah.
	Point out and inquire when you hear others referencing gender in a binary manner.
	Ooh.
	This is like for fifth graders, or is this for college students?
	Who is this for?
	So, fifth graders.
	You're a fifth grader.
	Oh, no, you can't use the word girl.
	You can't use she.
	No good.
	Uh-uh.
	Don't use it.
	Stop it.
	No.
	I think it could even be for third graders, I think.
	Well, maybe it is.
	Can you imagine these kids by the time they're in high school, if they actually stick to this kind of philosophy?
	Insufferable.
	So when someone references gender in a binary manner, ask things like, hmm, that is interesting.
	Can you say more about that?
	Or, what makes you say that?
	I think of it a little differently.
	Provide counter-narratives that challenge students to think more expansively about their notions of gender.
	This is fantastic.
	Seven.
	Look for examples in the media that reinforce gender stereotypes or binary models of gender.
	It won't be hard.
	They're everywhere.
	When with others, call it out and interrogate it.
	How about, hey, that Miss America pageant?
	What the fuck?
	8.
	Be intolerant of openly hostile attitudes or references towards others every time you hear or observe them.
	But also use these as teachable moments.
	Take the opportunity to push the individual on their statements about gender.
	Being punitive may stop the behavior, at least in your presence.
	Being instructive may stop it entirely.
	Woo!
	Three more.
	Nine.
	Teach children specific language that empowers them to be proud of who they are or to defend others who are being mistreated.
	Such as, please respect my privacy.
	Or, you may think that, but I don't.
	Or, you may not like it, but I do.
	Or, hey, they're called private parts for a reason.
	Oh, man.
	What?
	They're called private parts for a reason.
	In other words, it's private what I am or how I identify.
	When I was a kid, they had the big, where you go to PE and then you have a shower.
	Yeah.
	And it'd be just a big open shower, a bunch of naked kids roaming around.
	I guess you can't do that anymore.
	I don't know.
	It doesn't say anything about that.
	It's implied.
	Help students recognize all or nothing language by helping them understand the difference between patterns and rules.
	Teach them phrases like, that may be true for some people, but not all people, or frequently, but not always, or more common and less common.
	Avoid using normal to define any behaviors.
	Oh, you can't be normal.
	No.
	No.
	It can be something...
	Well, that may be true for some people, but not all people.
	Frequently, but not always.
	Share personal anecdotes from your own life that reflect gender inclusiveness even better.
	Share examples when you are not gender inclusive in your thinking, words, or behaviors, what you learned as a result, and what you will do differently next time.
	I'm sorry, I didn't...
	I was gender exclusive.
	Yeah, well...
	Well, that may be true for some people, but not all people.
	It's more common and less common.
	And finally, do the work yourself.
	What are your own experiences with gender?
	What might be some of your own biases?
	What assumptions do you make about gender of others?
	Share reflections about your own evolving understandings of gender.
	Hey campers, let's talk about my own understanding of gender today.
	Wow.
	Alright.
	That was a good little list.
	And that's in Nebraska.
	Can't imagine what's going on in California.
	Hmm.
	Hmm.
	That's about it.
	Written by...
	Written by Ms.
	Bill Williams.
	I hope it wasn't duped.
	I think that's real.
	Who refers to doesn't use pronouns.
	Or he chooses his own pronoun.
	And he chooses...
	Or he, she chooses it.
	You gotta love it.
	That's pretty insulting.
	Yeah.
	But that's what it said.
	Mm-hmm.
	Alright, what else you got, boy?
	How we doing here in time?
	No, you can't be done.
	Didn't I have one more clip?
	Let me see what you...
	I think I've gone through all my clips, which is rare.
	Yeah, I think you have.
	I didn't have a lot of clips then.
	I have...
	Let's see.
	What can still be good?
	Well, not necessarily a clip.
	I did parse through the...
	The United Nations, IPCC, the Lima-Peru agreement.
	We didn't get to this on Sunday.
	Everybody was in Lima.
	This was another one of the big...
	Yes, including Amy Goodman, who was reporting from Lima.
	And everyone was there, and they were supposed to end on Friday, and they didn't have an agreement.
	It was freaking out.
	And so they stayed all night Saturday and came up with a thing on Sunday.
	And I put the paper, the agreement, into the show notes.
	This is the Conference of the Party's 20th Session, Lima, 1-12 December 2014.
	A report of the ad hoc working group on the Durban platform.
	It's so obvious that this is such bull crap because no one really wants to commit to anything.
	Because it means that we'd have to send money to poor nations, typically in Africa.
	So there is no outcome.
	They have what they call a good framework for the 2015 meeting in Paris.
	And this thing is filled with...
	Well, I think I'd like to go to that one.
	Yeah, to get our hair done with everybody else.
	We'll be perfect for that.
	Nobody gets that joke.
	The hair done?
	Yeah, this is for newbies to the show.
	This is a reference to Hillary Clinton.
	Yes, she used to go to Paris and her hair would look dynamite.
	So the whole document is filled with reiterating, recalling, affirming, noting, well, our favorite, underscoring, urging, acknowledging.
	There's pretty much nowhere in there that really agrees.
	Oh, yes, agrees that each party's intended nationally determined contribution towards achieving the objective of the convention, as set out in its Article 2, will represent a progression beyond the current undertaking of that party.
	Which I think means we all promise to do better.
	This is really, to me, proof that this is bullcrap.
	No one wants to do anything.
	Well, no, they don't.
	They talk a big game.
	They really, really, really don't want to do anything.
	I don't even know why it's...
	I don't know.
	The whole thing is ludicrous from so many different angles.
	Mm-hmm.
	And I don't think I'm out.
	Okay, well that's good.
	We can end the show.
	It doesn't mean we have to just stretch forever.
	Well, I have two things.
	You tell me if you're interested in it.
	One is Matt and Jen talking about Turkey's NATO membership.
	Now that they are friends with Russia, want to join the Shanghai Cooperative Organization.
	A little back and forth from Jen and Matt.
	I love this.
	This is the show.
	This is the...
	Oh, this is Jen.
	This is not Marie.
	No, it's not Matt.
	We don't...
	Yeah.
	It's the Matt and Marie show, but Marie is no longer in the show.
	One of the prerequisites for being a member of NATO, or at least a member in good standing in NATO, is to be a democracy.
	Are you concerned at all this backsliding that you're seeing in Turkey that you've expressed concern about might hurt Turkey's standing in NATO as a good, solid member?
	No.
	No.
	They can go around and detain as many journalists and cops as they want.
	I love how he sets her up.
	Get her to say no.
	Oh, really?
	It's okay?
	You're a democracy if you arrest journalists and arrest cops.
	And try soccer club supporters for trying to overthrow the government by attending what you'd say is a legal protest.
	And it has no implications for them.
	Or any other NATO member if the same thing was going on in their territory.
	Turkey is a democracy.
	As I mentioned, a number of these important values like media freedom, due process, judicial independence are enshrined in the Turkish constitution.
	Well, that doesn't mean that they're actually respected.
	I mean, there's a lot of things enshrined in a lot of constitutions.
	But it means that we can speak out, as do others, when we have concerns about the implementation of these pieces.
	But it does not mean that they don't continue to be an important ally and NATO partner.
	There you go.
	It's not a problem.
	Hmm.
	Interesting.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	All right.
	I think we should end the show today for this particular episode.
	It's going to be very interesting to see what happens for the next program, which will be 380.
	That'll be on Sunday.
	And I may have more info from the back channel, the New York channel with North Korea through Don.
	Don.
	I think that will be very entertaining and very interesting and probably incredibly unique compared to what everyone else is doing, which is just running around waving their hands in the air and yelling.
	We, however, will not succumb to any threats from North Korea.
	Ever.
	Because we are the best podcast in the universe.
	This is true.
	Thank you very much.
	Thank you very much, everybody.
	Thank you for your courage, John.
	Coming to you from FEMA Region 6.
	In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley, where all the news is obscured by this North Korean bullcrap, I'm John C. Dvorak.
	We'll be back on Sunday with more analysis deconstruction, where the show is the product, not you.
	We'll do it right here on No Agenda.
	Remember us at Dvorak.org slash NA. We are here, hashtag America, near our hashtag target.
	Soon.
	ISIS. We will follow them to the gates of hell.
	ISIS. I feel good.
	Noodle man, NATO's in, fuck Putin.
	Ukraine. Ukraine. Stop.
	Okay.
	That was a medical procedure.
	I'm not a doctor and neither are you.
	I'm a doctor, not an escalator.
	Taking the time to listen.
	Adios, mofo.
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