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Oct. 26, 2014 - No Agenda
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664: Boss Ass Look
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Hey, glad to see you.
Well, yeah.
Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak.
It's Sunday, October 26, 2014.
Time for your Gitmo Nation Media Assassination Episode 664.
This is No Agenda.
Celebrating seven years by exercising self-quarantine in FEMA Region 6 here in the capital of the Drone Star State, Austin, Texas.
Good morning, everybody.
I'm Adam Curry.
And from northern Silicon Valley, where I'm also celebrating seven years, I'm John C. Dvorak.
Craig Vaughn and Buzzkill in the morning.
Yay!
Yay!
We live!
Oh, wait a minute.
Hold on a sec.
What's this?
You didn't start the tape.
No, hold on.
Here's the tape.
Oh, wait.
Miss Mickey just walked in.
Aw, what's this, darling?
Aw, thank you.
Make a wish.
John, she just brought in seven cupcakes with candles.
I have to make a wish?
Yay!
Thank you, darling.
And happy seventh to you, too, as well.
I'll eat it later.
Thank you, darling.
Take a picture!
That's over with.
Great.
I'm with the show.
Congratulations.
You know what my wish was?
That we do another seven years?
That neither of us dies.
That's the only thing I can do.
The only thing I don't have in control.
I'm all in on that one.
That's the only thing I don't have under control.
You wake up and then you read that Jack Bruce died.
Was he 71?
Yeah, 71.
That sucks.
He had a hard life compared to us.
But that's a jip, man.
That's a jip.
He wasn't performing anymore.
But it doesn't matter.
71.
How do you know he had a hard life?
Clapton's still alive.
Jack Bruce.
Yeah, but...
Is Ginger Baker still alive, isn't he?
Yeah, he's still leading the hard life.
Yeah, yeah.
Let me ask you a question.
I had this horrible thought.
You know, I saw this band when they first hit the USA. Oh, really?
Yeah, the Fillmore.
I remember this one because it was...
Of course, this is where they had Chairs...
They had these folding chairs at some of these performances.
They weren't dance bands.
There was only like three or four rows of them, and I was in one of them.
And I remember at the beginning of the concert, they played, and then two other bands came out, and they played again.
There was two sets.
And then I noticed that the folding chair I was sitting in was three feet further back.
That's how loud these guys were.
Wow.
The last night, as I was sitting in my duster, smoking my pipe and drinking my scotch, as I often do on a Saturday night before reading my medical journals, I thought, man, I'm so, so happy we do this show together.
I can't imagine doing any show like this.
It wouldn't be like this if it was by myself.
But I was just thinking...
Who is writing the official version of the history of our time?
Because there seems to be the version that is on the mainstream media and then there's what we know.
Slightly different.
Yes, skewed.
Yes, and if I didn't have you to bounce stuff off of, I'm pretty sure I would have to commit myself.
Well, that's still a possibility.
Yeah.
It's so radically different often, you know?
Things are just so...
Wow.
Yeah, well, I find it disturbing, to be honest about it.
Yeah, but perhaps all the history...
Perhaps it's always been this way.
I'm guessing it probably was.
Yeah, yeah.
Well, it's like Henry Ford said, history is bunk.
I didn't know he said that.
Yes, he did.
He said that.
In fact, I heard it in a history class as a point of ridicule to indicate that Ford was an idiot.
Oh, okay.
But now, over time, that quote actually makes more sense.
Yeah, yeah.
Maybe he was a visionary.
So, the Euroland entered daylight savings time already.
Oh.
It is now, of course, 13 minutes past 4 p.m.
UTC, Universal Time Coordinated.
And I believe the United States of Gitmo Nation changes on November 2nd.
So that is next week.
Next Sunday.
Let's see.
If I'm not mistaken, you go forward in our fall, forward and spring back.
Exactly right.
Yeah, you do that.
I'll see you on the show Sunday.
Yeah.
And Russia, of course, no longer changes.
There's no reason for anybody to change.
Of course not.
Unless it's just to confuse the slaves and throw them off balance, which is exactly what happens.
Yeah, why can't it just be UTC? I was reading up on UTC last night, as one does on a Saturday.
And this, you know, this coordinated universal time, if you look at the Wikipedia entry, which seems to be fairly complete, it really, you get a real understanding of the leap seconds and why these were introduced and why, and, you know, this was, I think it's 72 is when the leap seconds were introduced to counter the gradual slowing of the rotation of the Earth.
But I think there's like 19 of them that are added every 10 years.
But at any rate, first of all, time is just a concept when you think about it.
This makes sense to me that you have to, you know, yeah, it should be just relative.
Yeah, can we just have, if we all use UTC, which is what aviation does, it would be fine.
Yeah, what time is it now?
It's 4 at 15 p.m.
UTC. Okay, so we'd do the show.
We'd get up at 2 p.m.
Yes, I'd get up earlier.
I'm a late sleeper.
I'd get up at 7, so I'd be getting up at 2 p.m.
UTC, and I'd be going to bed or whatever, you know, 10, 12 hours later.
It's not that complicated.
Are there UTC watches available?
You said it.
No, I mean, just purely UTC. Well, there's a point.
Duh!
Oh my god!
We have to remove this one.
He is invalid.
Holy shit.
Sorry about that.
That was one of the worst things I've ever said, I think.
Yeah, just close.
I've never heard anything quite like it.
Oh boy, okay.
Alright, that was dumb.
That's the guys arguing over whether we should do it six or half a dozen.
Seven more years of this, ladies and gentlemen.
Seven more years.
Oh, man.
Oh, man.
Since you're going to get on that, I do have a...
Well, no, I'll do it later.
I want to talk a little bit about the Washington State shootings because they've been so...
Do we have a name for the Washington State shootings?
I mean, can we just call them the Seattle school shooting?
Or do we have a...
Do we have nothing, really?
Washington State shootings seems to be what keeps coming up.
I think it's a dud.
I know they tried to push it.
There's always shootings.
I mean, there's shootings in schools all the time.
I mean, there's a number of them every year.
But they always find one to make a big deal out of so we can push the gun thing.
I've noticed there's been a lot of gun and violent...
I mean, just besides the shootings and the cop that was shot, play the violent teasers on KTLA. This is the way the news opens every day in Los Angeles.
A SWAT team soars a high-end boutique in San Clemenci and finds a man and a woman dead inside.
Plus, detectives arrest two men accused of firing a stray bullet that killed a nine-year-old girl in Anaheim.
And an LAPD officer is under investigation after a man claims he was beaten and kicked in the head.
This is, by the way, great music bed.
Did you hear how that thing opened?
Yeah, with gunshots.
And it has this whole swell.
Let me hear it again.
Oops.
I don't want to hear that one again.
Where is it?
Here it is.
That was good.
That's not just a...
Man, that's good.
Yeah.
Maybe we should have one of those.
That's where we're headed.
That's a good one.
Like it.
Yeah, nice.
Yeah, although we never hear about, I'm sure Chicago local news has it, but Chicago, someone's killed every single day.
Pretty much.
Yeah.
Sometime in groups.
Yes.
I don't know, but I think that Obama's just, or it was because of Rahm Emanuel, they've done a blackout on playing up the Chicago violence.
Well, it is the, they do have the strictest gun laws in the country, supposedly.
I also think they...
They want to bring it to middle America to get the women to vote Democrat.
So Washington State's perfect.
Let me just play three clips for the Washington State thing and get it out of the way.
Washington's shooting one is the intro to the story.
And another shooting today outside of Seattle.
Investigators say this one happened at a Washington State...
Sorry?
He says another, so we get in the mind of the listeners many of these.
Yes, of course.
...high school and has left two people dead, including the shooter.
Witnesses say freshman Jalen Freiberg walked into a crowded cafeteria at Marysville Pilchuck High School and opened fire.
He ended up shooting five people, killing one.
I jumped under the table as fast as I could, and when it stopped, I looked back up, and I saw he was trying to reload his gun, and when that happened, I just ran in the opposite direction, and I was out of there as fast as I could.
The thing that irritated me the most about this story is that there's pictures everywhere of him in his football jersey.
Number 33.
Yeah.
It's very annoying to me.
I think that's a giveaway.
It's very annoying to me.
It's going to part two.
Okay.
Three of the injured students were taken to a nearby hospital where they immediately went into surgery.
A fourth was transferred to Seattle for treatment.
Freiburg was later found dead of a self-inflicted gunshot wound.
Freiburg was considered to be a well-liked student and was even recently elected freshman homecoming king.
Police are still trying to figure out a motive behind today's shooting.
Well, did you get the motive?
Either his girlfriend broke up with him or some girl wouldn't date with him.
Yeah, something simple like that.
It was immediately reported properly on Russia Today.
So let's play that clip.
Russia Today on Washington State shootings.
This was an explanation which I think took the air out of the whole thing.
Investigators are looking into a school shooting in the town of Marysville in Washington State say it's still not clear whether the gunman killed himself or accidentally or on purpose.
High school student Jalen Freyberg shot and killed a girl and wounded four other classmates.
Some reports suggest that two of the victims were cousins who were linked in a love triangle.
I want to hear your link.
What?
A love triangle?
Yeah, see?
You didn't hear that, did you?
Whoa!
A love triangle with his cousins?
Yeah, sexy.
There's a lot of stuff going on.
Forboding love.
Well, this is interesting.
I received an email from one of our, of course, our global intelligence network.
John Adam, this was my high school.
I'm 35 now, but I remember what it was like there.
It is near the Tulalip Reservation, is that how you pronounce it?
Or Tulalip?
Tulalip?
Tulalip.
Tulalip.
There are a lot of Indians that went to the school and the other schools where I grew up in Marysville.
The Freibergs were exceptional a-holes.
I was a white kid and the Indian family stuck together so you didn't mess with them lest you get a beat down.
They messed with everyone.
When I heard it was a Freiberg that did it, all suspicion about a possible BS story disappeared.
Just a little inside info for you.
Well, this is interesting.
Yeah.
I think that gives it another perspective.
Well, there's also a family of douchebags.
Family of douchebags shooting each other.
What happens?
Well, the 33 is a problem.
Also, the story about who took the gun away from him, attacked him, grabbed the gun.
Yeah.
When then somehow he goes and shoots himself, this never made any sense to me.
Whether it was a teacher, it was a janitor, it was the various...
I have another piece of data for you.
I want to hear deconstruction.
Listen to this piece from CNN. I am getting handed information, so bear with me as I just read this.
Cold.
Local law enforcement, under the direction of the Marysville Police Department, will be holding SWAT training.
Oh yeah.
This was actually yesterday.
This was yesterday.
They held SWAT training.
It happened that they held SWAT training yesterday in the area around the school district.
So take a look at this as we're watching people running.
Oof.
Just gives you chills seeing these students running one after another after another.
Always irritating.
Yes, this is always irritating.
The 33 is also...
Now, your friend, our friend, our buddy in the intelligence network that used to go to the school and knew about this family being a bunch of a-holes, that doesn't mean that this is actually legitimate.
It's possible that they are a-holes and somebody finally killed one or two of them.
Or the cousins.
It sounds like all were related.
Yeah, this sounds like a family feud.
Yeah, a family feud that ended up with some guys shot.
And of course, then these guys got shipped off to different hospitals immediately.
But the 33s, this was, I think, I think the media, I think this is going to be dropped.
I just don't think this has got the kind of legs that it needs.
It doesn't have the right kind of nutty shooter.
Shitty shooting.
Can we just call it that?
It was a shitty shooting.
No good.
It wasn't very good.
Not a good one to pick up.
It was a complete dud.
Of all the stories.
And you know they had this Initiative 594 out in Washington State.
Yeah.
Which you would presume might have something to do with it.
Maybe.
And 594, this is the background check on transfer law?
Yeah, this is the one that is going to have...
They're not going to pass this thing.
I got a problem.
Although they have exceptions, the law is written kind of so you could do this, but I can't even hand you a gun to shoot at the rain.
Exactly.
Exactly.
Without getting a background check on you.
Matt from Washington State wrote in and said, If it passes, Initiative 594 in Washington State would require background checks for any transfer of a gun.
For example, if it passes and I want to let my brother hold a new shotgun of mine while we're duck hunting together, I would have to pay to get a background check on him.
First, I have to background check my brother, the person I used to take baths with.
I know him better than any background check would.
Anyways...
Ed, there is no such thing as anyways.
Can we just point this out?
We only say it to mock it.
Well, of course, I hope he's mocking it.
No context in the end.
Yeah, no, but we have a lot of people that write in it and say, any who.
Yeah, anyways.
Anyways.
The support for the initiative is dropping as the NRA has started aggressively advertising against it, and then this happens today.
Yeah, so it's...
They didn't even get into, when they reported on it, they didn't even get into how we got the gun and all the rest of it.
I think it was just a failed attempt at getting a story with legs.
Something going, yeah.
And the 33 was a giveaway for us, I believe.
Now, I have to say, compared to everything we saw and heard from Sandy Hook, this was much more realistic.
I saw helicopter trauma helicopters flying.
I saw what looked like bodies with covered being put in.
I saw wounded.
It looked a little better than the Sandy Hook stuff.
You at least saw something.
At Sandy Hook, we got to see absolutely nothing.
There was people walking around.
That made me feel a little better about it.
Damn, oh damn.
No, actually, if people want to go and look at the...
There's some very good analysis of Sandy Hook online.
Oh, yeah.
By people who are...
They're, I think, obsessed to the point where they have little details that they uncover here and there.
It's close to being embarrassing.
It's so detailed.
It's the best I can do.
No, I don't have anything else, but that's the best I have, too.
Yeah, I think that's it.
I think the Freiburg, in combination with your cousin clip, kissing cousins and the Freiburgs being a bunch of a-holes, that would pretty much make it, you know, that makes sense.
But some, you know, family feud, you know, Bork and cousins out there, it makes sense, it happens.
It doesn't just happen in Texas, let's put it that way.
It doesn't need to happen in a school, though, but that's the...
Well, of course, of course.
So that guy's packing in school.
This football kid.
I'm sorry?
He's packing.
He's packing heat.
Well, we used to go to...
I remember...
You packed heat when you were in high school?
No.
I didn't go to high school in the U.S., but in grade school in Maryland, it was not uncommon.
You could bring your BB gun to school.
You could put it in your locker.
You could bring your.22 if you're going, you know, rain shooting later on.
Did you have a gun club in the school?
They used to have gun clubs.
Yeah, I'm pretty sure they did.
I'm pretty sure they did.
I was too young, but I'm pretty sure.
It was part of culture.
It was very normal back in the day.
Did you see...
Man, Canada.
Hoo boy!
I'm glad that they are now really a part of North America.
The way this caliphate is being picked up and the...
The terror.
They are almost as good as we are, except when they do the militaristic stuff at sports games.
It's a little cooler, because they do it in English and French.
It just sounds like it's a little longer.
It's longer, but it sounds a little more, you know, international.
And, you know, of course, they got guys in, you know, uniforms that are cool, kilts.
I like kilts.
You know, I think it's a boss-ass look.
Here's the opening.
Boss ass is what you said?
Boss ass, yes.
Boss ass.
A boss-ass look.
That's right.
The attacks this past week have been a shock to the people of Ottawa and all Canadians.
Tonight, we have an opportunity to stand united as one.
How good is this voice?
How good is this voice?
Yeah, it's great.
United as one.
Les attaques sur Venus cette semaine ont bouleversé les gens d'Ottawa ainsi que tous les Canadiens, mais elles représentant également une occasion de nous unir.
We are the surprise welcome tonight on our guest.
Nous vous demandons d'accueillir chaleureusement les invités d'honneur de ce soir.
Adam Kooi, Jean, Sidney Vellet, From Corporal Cirillo's Hamilton Base Regiment, the Argyle and Sutherland Highlanders, Master Corporal Michael Ash, and Master Cadet Samuel Shepard.
Wow!
Listen to this!
Just listen.
Yeah.
Did you see this?
This is the NHL, the hockey game.
This is a big stadium, which I guess is...
Lieutenant Colonel Ken Brooks.
I just want to get it up to...
I just want to get it up to...
This is a combined flag party of Canadian Forces members along with John Sobey, representing Ottawa's first responders who bravely rush to the scene and who get our city safe every single day.
Fuck yeah!
Woo!
Safe!
Wow, this is good!
Very good, Camdenavia!
Please join us in a moment of silence to honor and remember the victims.
Warrant Officer Patrice Dessa, killed in Saint-Jean-sur-Visier de Quebec, and Corporal Nathan Cirilla, who was slain at the War Memorial in Ottawa, and all those affected by these tragedies.
And then they do it in French.
And then they do a moment of silence, which was long.
It must have been 30, 40 seconds.
It was really impressive.
Wow.
Yeah.
World War II. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And there's lots of discussion on the radio, which of course you kind of need that.
CBC, this is, what is this?
The Current Show.
And they have some pretty decent radio, I think, in Scandinavia.
Until now, the biggest terrorist activity that occurred on or near our country was Air India 25 years ago.
And it was only planned and started.
Here it happened elsewhere.
But I think the problem is that, you know, the lapses in security come about for a number of reasons.
Somewhere Obama bin Laden is laughing.
Come on.
Did you hear it?
You know, these guys, by the way...
Did you hear what he said?
The song was laughing?
No, you missed it.
Oh, okay.
Listen closely.
He's laughing.
Listen more carefully.
The host of the show didn't...
No one on the show mentioned it.
The problem is that, you know, the lapses in security come about for a number of reasons.
Somewhere Obama bin Laden is laughing.
Oh, Obama bin Laden.
No one says that word.
Obama Bin Laden.
But that also means he's not dead.
He didn't say laughing in his grave, did he?
I read a couple of reports that there's some document that's been uncovered that proves that they didn't throw him overboard, that they actually brought the body back and they brought him to some naval base, and I don't know what they did with him, but...
Apparently he's not dead.
Well, that would...
It wouldn't surprise me.
I don't know what they want to do with the...
Well, I mean, we've had the thesis on and off that he was always an operative and he was being extracted because the Navy SEAL team, that particular one, was an extraction team.
It wasn't an assassination team.
Right.
And although they, of course...
Took a bad helicopter flight a little bit later, and we can't really talk to them anymore.
Which is another, you know, the whole thing is awfully fishy.
Peter King, who we already think is an enormous douchebag, and he's a Republican, is he not?
Yes.
And he's on the big intelligence committee.
He's one of the guys who leads the show, runs the show on the security and intelligence of our nation.
Now, the thing you wouldn't want him to do is to ever say things that would make you worried, because he has inside information.
Right?
We assume so.
Yeah, if he starts getting worried, then that could scare people.
Don't you think?
Well, I think maybe, but I mean, sometimes I believe these people are being used by the intelligence community.
In various ways.
I don't think necessarily they're getting the straight scoop.
Okay.
Well, he was on...
It might have been.
I don't know.
Let's see how Mad Feinstein got when she found out they were lying to her.
Yeah.
Yeah, she was pissed.
Oh, man, was she pissed.
And then she just keeps on doing her own thing.
And her head is gone.
But here's...
Peter King.
I think it was on CNN. But, you know, I mean, there are a lot of people...
Oh, no, it's Greta Van Susteren, so it would be Fox.
Sorry.
Here we go.
But, you know, I mean, there are a lot of people that are at risk with this.
Greta, I don't want to scare anybody.
Nobody should feel safe with...
I don't want to scare anybody.
Nobody should feel safe.
Now listen to the rest of what he says.
It is unbelievable.
Terrorism, a particularly evil group in ISIS, and they want to attack as many people as they can.
They focus on the military and the police and monuments because that will get more attention.
But they will kill anyone they can.
If they can attack a shopping center, if they can attack a subway train, if they can attack an airport, they will do it.
Right now, for the sake of symbolism, they're talking about the military.
But no, we should be guarding everything we possibly can.
And we should be aggressive.
We should be on offense.
We should not be politically correct.
And the only way we can really stop this credit is to go into the Muslim communities and find out who's good, who's bad, get any kind of tips, informers, whatever we have to do.
The type of thing the NYPD was doing for years until those people at the New York Times, those liberal ideologues, The guy is high.
It can't be any other way.
Did he just say, let's go in and shake down some Muslims?
Yeah, that's what he said.
And we can't listen to pinkos.
He's like Archie Bunker all of a sudden.
It lives.
That's a borderline clip.
Not quite.
I said borderline.
It's crazy.
This guy is off his rocker.
You can't be saying these things.
He is off his rocker.
We've got to stop being politically correct.
Screw those pinkos over there at the New York Times and AP. What are you, commies?
You fucking commies?
We've got to go check them Muslims.
Oh, man.
What is the point?
It's becoming scary.
The politically correct thing came up in the local news, which I have to...
I was just watching, getting clips and listening to it, and I got this story.
And as soon as I got this story, I had to go get the clip.
And this is the Chinese racism in Oakland clip, but it actually took place in San Francisco.
A rally has been scheduled against the promotion of racism and hatred against the Chinese community.
It will be today at noon in Oakland's Chinatown in front of the Pacific Renaissance Plaza on 9th Street.
Organizers say the motivation behind this event is the Recent YouTube video of the female tour guide bashing the Chinese community.
The woman has since apologized for her actions.
Get out, Chiners!
Yeah, who needs him?
Anyway, so I said, what is this?
Sounds like a bunch of bullcrap.
So there's this woman, on a Grey Line tour, one of those double-deckers, she's on the top.
Yeah.
And with a microphone, and she's giving a tour of Chinatown, San Francisco.
Oh.
And this is her last day at work.
Okay, I gotcha.
So she decides to go off on the Chinese, on Chinatown mostly, not the Chinese so much.
And I had to kind of re-edit this thing a little bit, but everything's here.
And this is the F Chinatown clip.
And people who don't like to hear the F word...
Are you disclaiming something?
I'm just saying there's going to be a lot of it in this clip.
Okay, but I want you guys to know I have horse tail and your fucking ginseng.
Fuck your little hair salons where nobody in there knows how to fucking speak English.
Fuck this bullshit.
Fuck your Chinatown gates.
Fuck your little BART stop that you're building here, which is fucking up traffic for the entire neighborhood.
Fucking down the street every day I can't even get home at night.
Fuck your preschools and your little preschoolers making all that noise at 6 in the morning when I was trying to live here.
Fuck your salons, fuck your little herb gardens, fuck your little seafood fucking markets with your turtles and your frogs inside, okay?
Okay, when you come to America, you gotta assimilate a little bit.
And here in America, we don't eat turtles and frogs, okay?
But they gotta bring that here to America, okay?
There's a limit, okay?
You gotta assimilate a little bit, Chinatown.
Fuck your laundry hanging out the windows.
Fuck your three or four people inside each one of your little SROs.
Okay, fuck your noise.
Fuck your parades.
Fuck your dragons.
Fuck this shit.
Fuck Chinatown, okay?
Fuck them.
Stand the ovation.
She gets a round of applause.
Stand back, John.
You know you got it.
He's a chewing man.
Easy.
Easy.
Nice.
That's actually an evergreen.
It's pretty funny.
I'm putting that in the evergreen folder.
That was good!
Where did you get that from?
A real rant.
I dug it up.
It was on YouTube.
They kept it.
Oh, that's hilarious.
There's two or three versions.
There's some little somebody commenting on it, you know, making, oh, this is terrible.
Anyways, obviously, I love it.
Black women, probably living in Chinatown, I would think they have a lot of prejudice.
Oh, she was black?
Yes.
Funny.
Fuck your little preschoolers.
Okay, I have a couple of things to get out of the way regarding the caliphate.
By the way, when are we ever going to see...
What is it?
What is the town?
Aleppo?
No, Urbani, what is it?
Oh, the one that they're pounding?
Yeah, it was supposed to fall within hours.
But I guess because Turkey just isn't taking the bait and isn't jumping into the fight and isn't going to allow themselves to be misused by NATO, it just keeps on going.
This was supposed to be over in hours under siege.
No one cares about this town.
It was a lot for a town that just doesn't seem to want to go away.
I only have one clip on ISIS, and it's a Turkish one I picked off as RT. He was like, I can play this before or after yours, but it might be better before because it's kind of a backgrounder.
But you have to see the setting.
This is an RT reporter that is at the Turkish border.
He's at the border, standing there.
With a bunch of people, and they have lawn chairs and coolers.
Yes.
I know.
It's crazy.
And he says, and then as his report goes on, when he does the voiceover, later, when he puts the package together, he says, I was told after I went there that it was very dangerous and all kinds of horrible things.
Oh, no.
It was like a football tailgate party at the border.
There was no...
It was so casual, it was ludicrous.
Islamic State's power, its mercilessness and a clear desire to shed Kurdish blood.
Yet there appear to be those who see it as a lesser evil.
It's very clear from Turkey's policies in the last several weeks in Kobani that Turkey does not consider ISIS to be a strategic threat to itself, but it does consider the Kurdish liberation movement in the form of the YPG and the PKK as a strategic threat to itself.
Branding Kurdish fighters as terrorists, Ankara justified its resistance to international plans to help defend Kobani.
It would be wrong for the United States, with whom we're friends and allies in NATO, to expect us to say yes to supplying arms to Kurdish terrorist organizations.
But Ankara's latest remarks suggest it is willing to help contain the Islamic State, perhaps in a bid to fend off accusations that it is turning a blind eye to the jihadists and even conniving with them.
We all know that the IS has used the facilities and the logistic facilities that they have been receiving, or at least afforded by the Turkish side.
This gave them a great advantage in their fighting in Syria in general, and Kobani was no exception of that.
We decided to go to a border crossing and see for ourselves.
We're at a border crossing with Syria.
The difference here is that manning the checkpoint aren't Kurdish fighters, but the Islamic State's jihadists.
In fact, everything you can see behind that fence is controlled by the Islamic State.
It is very calm here.
There are no troops, no armored personnel carriers, no tanks.
And there's a sort of feeling that Turkey's more comfortable with the Islamic State on its borders Rather than any incarnation of a Kurdish state.
Nice NATO friends there.
Yeah.
Gasoline in Austin, $2.77 a gallon.
Huh.
We're getting to the $2 point.
Well, to the $3 break.
$2.99.
I've seen it's around $3.10 and $3.30 for a premium.
It's...
Pretty interesting how all that works.
Yes, considering that if they want it, they can scare the public.
Usually when there's an event in the Middle East, the gas prices go up, but it seems to be going down.
Very interesting.
One of the guys we promised to keep our eye on, whenever he shows up, he always has information that is worth listening to.
Wesley Clark, retired General Wesley Clark.
And he showed up on the Tavis Smiley show.
That's PBS, right?
That's public television?
Yes.
I like Tavis Smiley.
I like watching his show.
I didn't like him at first because I couldn't deal with his cadence.
It's annoying because it's kind of like a radio guy on TV. But a black radio guy on TV? Because black radio hosts have different cadence than white radio hosts?
Sorry.
Yeah.
Jeez, sorry.
It's a cadence that is...
It doesn't work when you're looking at someone.
Could you move on with it?
Yeah.
Now, the good general has a book out called Don't Wait for the Next War.
And I thought it was a very interesting appearance.
And he has a new list.
We know we have the West Clark Seven, which is the...
I won't play it.
But it's a list of countries that in 2000...
When was it?
Was it right after the World Trade Center attack?
It would be when he was running for president.
Right.
I think he may be thinking about running again.
Let's listen to his clips.
He's just not acceptable to the public.
Well...
Or the party.
Let me tell you something.
I think he looks...
Very presidential, but without looking like a douchebag.
He didn't look like an ex-retired general douchebag.
Didn't really act like it.
He had a very kind demeanor, interacted well with Smiley, and he has a new top list, a top five list that I'd like us to listen to.
Well, I want to mention one other little point, is that Smiley is not an Obama fan.
Correct.
He went on the bus tour with Cornel West.
Cornel West.
The two of them went around, bitching and moaning about the policies.
And, of course, it fell on deaf ears, so that didn't work out for him.
But you can just tell he's got an agenda.
So again, I'm not suggesting that you're declaring that there's going to be another war.
I guess what I'm getting at is whether or not we should accept the fact, maybe I should oppose it this way, that war is a way of life these days, given the world that we live in and the terrorism that we're up against.
Is that a conclusion that we can...
It's not something I want to acknowledge to myself, but is that something that we need to come We've got five long-term challenges, and one of them is terrorism, cybersecurity, stability of the financial system, the ascent of China, and climate change.
We've got to work against all five of those on a continuing basis.
Okay, so there's your new five, which I think is astute and proper.
Notice China being in there as one of the actual things to look out for.
Now we're going to go from...
Oh yes, here we go.
This is Wes Clark explaining Turkey, Syria, Russia, Iran, the relationship between all of them.
And he does it in under a minute.
Here's the trick.
We're focused right now on Iraq.
We haven't yet come to Syria.
And Syria's difficult.
Why?
Well, for a couple of reasons.
Turkey's a NATO member.
If Turkey gets attacked, we have to help defend Turkey.
Russia is helping Bashar Assad.
The President said he doesn't like Bashar Assad, doesn't think he's legitimate.
Okay.
But when you go against him and you really put the power in there against him, what if Russia says, no, we're supporting him?
Are we going to take out Russian anti-aircraft systems?
What if they've got Russian technicians in there?
What if the Russians reinforce it?
So you have to be prepared to do that.
And if you involve Turkey in it, Then what if Turkey, you know, is bordered by Iran?
Iran is an ally of Syria.
What if Iran then says to Turkey, since you're trying to mess with Syria, we're going to cause trouble for you inside Turkey with the PKK guerrillas.
So you could have a lot of complicating factors in there.
It's almost like the Freiburg cousins, isn't it?
Yeah, love triangle.
Yeah, I think it's pretty good.
Here's his pitch.
Here's where I think he's detailing his top five, although he forgets climate change.
This, I think, is his presidential pitch.
It may be that we have to use military forces against terrorists, like we're doing now against ISIS. We may have to do more against ISIS. But that's just one of the things.
We have to get a grip on cybersecurity in this country.
Yeah.
And by the way, the stock market's been acting kind of crazy lately.
And it reminds us that the financial crisis, even though it happened in 2008, we never really quite recovered from it.
And we're not really sure how stable the financial system is, but we know this.
We know the Federal Reserve has a lot more debt.
And that means a lot less dry powder to be able to handle the next problem.
And then there's China.
Every year China gets bigger, armed forces get better, and they've drawn a nine-dash line in the South China Sea that takes up the ocean that belongs to other countries.
It almost touches the border of these other countries.
They're saying, what happened to our law of the sea?
You know, we're supposed to have the seabed 200 miles offshore, and China's taking it.
And there's a lot of pushing and shoving going on out there.
These are all problems that we have to work with.
But most of these problems cannot just be resolved by the military.
No.
I think there's some clear talking there from the general.
I mean, it's possible that he would take a run at it just to see if he catches.
Well, bear with me.
I think everyone sees Hillary as weak and concluded that she can be taken out.
She was taken out once already by Obama, who is just an amateur.
Yep.
Well, bear with me, because here, now we're going to wind this up, and he needs to, you know, if you want to win an election in America, there's one group...
You might also be angling for vice president under Warren.
Possible.
That'd be a good combination.
If you want to, but if you want to run for anything, certainly at the national level in America, you have to have the Jewish vote.
There's just no two ways about it.
You gotta go to APAC. You gotta do your thing.
You gotta shuffle your song and dance.
The president did it.
Do you remember at the convention...
What was that thing where it was like, oh yes, yeah, yeah, Jerusalem is the capital.
It was like the quick shuffle back and forth, and they restated stuff.
It's kind of disgusting how that all happens, but there you go.
I want to ask you, how serious, we're talking about ISIS for the last couple minutes here, how serious and how connected or disconnected do you see the challenges, for lack of a better word, that are being presented inside of Ukraine?
Well, it's very serious and I'll tell you why.
Because for the United States to be a global leader, we have to have a very tight relationship with Europe.
And we've held that relationship since 1949 when we established the North Atlantic Treaty Organization, NATO. NATO is the bond.
It's a security bond.
Ukraine's not a member of NATO, but Ukraine's neighbors are members of NATO. And when they see Putin seizing the Crimea, saying he wants to come in to protect Russian people that are in there, and using military force and sneaking in these Spetsnaz snipers and other things to take those buildings, he created all this.
East Europeans, they've been around the block a couple of times.
They've seen this movie before.
They know.
And they go back, you know, in history, and they say, well, this is kind of, sounds a lot like Hitler.
This is the way Hitler got started.
Yeah!
He got started by, he's very cautious...
He was very circumspect, built up the army, occupied the Rhineland.
Then he wanted to protect the rights of German-speaking people in Czechoslovakia.
And Britain and France let him have it.
And the next thing, his appetite got bigger.
So people are worried about what that means for the rest of Europe.
Putin's been threatening.
He's been threatening the Baltic state.
He's even sort of casually mentioned nuclear weapons.
Well, that's a total no-go to those who think.
To those who think they just heard you, if ever so suddenly, compare Putin to Hitler, how do you respond to that while you're sitting here?
Well, we don't know what Putin might become.
That's a strong...
But let's not find out, okay?
We don't know what he might become.
We don't know if he is going to move into Estonia or try to take Latvia next.
But he's set the process in motion where he could.
And they're both members of NATO. And if he moved against them, that would be like a declaration of war against NATO, which involves the United States.
And we'd be at war.
Now, this is logical.
What a jump.
I'm taking Crimea, which is their base, and traditionally a part of Russia.
Traditionally a part of Russia.
They were always Russia.
And they're their main base for the Black Sea, the Baltic area.
Or to get to the Mediterranean.
To make that leap to taking Latvia?
Yeah.
Well, here's what is interesting, because this is still relating to Syria.
And as I was listening to this, watching this interview, pulling out clips, and I'm surfing around, you know that we have this Holocaust Museum in Washington, D.C. It's a big thing, the Holocaust Museum.
Do you know that they have an exhibit right now at the Holocaust Museum?
Which is showing images of Syrian killings and equating it to the Holocaust of World War II. I found this very interesting.
I find it offensive.
Well, particularly...
Using the Holocaust as a political football?
Yes, sir.
Let me tell you how deep this went.
Or this goes, actually.
So, you know, right now we have closed...
We have a...
An insider, you know, who has proof of these atrocities.
We have hearings going on right now, which are closed door hearings.
Then the witness's name is Caesar, code name Caesar.
And he has pictures...
He's testifying with a blue hooded rain jacket on with glasses to keep him anonymous when he goes in and out of the building.
It's very unfortunate that the pictures that he has as evidence, in order to smuggle them out of the country, he had to compress them so much.
I'm not kidding, John.
He had to compress them so much that the EXIF data...
Was lost so we don't have GPS coordinates and time stamps on the photos.
I hate it when that happens.
Then I'm now looking at this Holocaust museum.
What is this malarkey?
Yeah, this is what's going on.
But listen to what's happening.
What?
Depressing?
This compression story is bullshit.
Bullshit, of course.
Look at the Holocaust Museum and please take a look at the Board of Trustees and the Council.
I'll save you some time.
It's the USHMM.org, UniformSierraHotelMikeMike.org.
On the board here we have, gee, Ely Weasel, of course, you'd expect him to be on.
He is the...
The uber Jew of the Holocaust.
When he's on, you're solid.
But Michael Chertoff?
Hmm, this is kind of interesting that he's on the board there.
There's a couple other ex-military guys who are...
Is Chertoff Jewish?
I don't know.
I don't know.
Might be.
I don't know.
Could be.
What's he doing on that board?
It sounds like a conflict of some sort.
And both Chertoff and Weasel...
Are writing op-eds, big articles about Syria being exactly like the Holocaust.
We're just not giving up on this Syria thing.
We're going at it any way we can.
What is there that's so important?
Well, it is, well, of course, Israel.
Let's start with that.
Israel's right around there.
That could be pretty important.
This is not new.
No.
And the leadership there is not new, and we had him hanging around with all those celebrities.
Well, what is the problem?
What's new?
What changed?
What changed?
Oh, what changed is...
While I'm driving off laughing, this is what I'll say.
That's what changed.
What changed is Russia.
We put Russia on their back foot.
Russia has always been the problem with Syria.
And that's exactly what the general just explained.
Hey, are you going to go in?
Are you ready to be killing Russian soldiers who are manning anti-aircraft?
Because they have a base there.
Yes, it's their base.
Yes, so that's the problem.
But of course the area, Syria by itself, is incredibly strategic.
It's a great little...
But it's always been that way.
Yes, this is what they were trying to do in 2003.
Yes.
But Russia is no slouch.
So it's a twofer.
It comes into play.
It becomes clearer every single day.
And I think the general just kind of said it.
Here's the problem.
So what do we do?
Oh, thank goodness.
Ha!
Thank goodness we have another couple of great Putin stories.
Watch for this.
I've been waiting for it.
Here it is, finally.
We have elections, by the way, today in Ukraine.
Headline from the Daily Beast, Ukraine rebels love Russia, hate gays, threaten executions.
Finally!
Oh, brother!
Finally!
In the breakaway region...
This is exactly this playbook that we've outlined.
Exactly.
In the breakaway region that calls itself the Luhansk People's Republican, what used to be a Ukrainian government administration building, the place where rebels get together to exchange their most radical ideas in the smoking room, in the dense atmosphere of tobacco and conspiracy, one hot topic has been the death penalty.
The Council reinstated capital punishment earlier this year, but even such basic questions as what sort of political power should be established have not been resolved.
Should Luzank aim to be a Western democracy, a communist republic, a monarchy?
Failing to decide such key questions, the Council opted for a law everyone in the smoking room seemed to agree on.
Punishment of homosexuals!
They voted to imprison people convicted of being gay for two years and six months.
And they voted the death penalty, no question about that, for the rape of a minor, whether of the same or opposite sex.
And it goes on and on and on.
So the opposition in Ukraine, the rebels, love Putin, hate gays, want to kill them.
Perfect!
So this is right on script.
Right on message, right on script.
Now...
This will be the big main message for the people.
George Soros, he wrote an op-ed in...
Let me see what this is.
I'm sure it was Wall Street Journal or New York Times or one of these.
He's saying, time to wake up.
We're out of time.
We have to, he said, $20 billion is needed from the IMF in the Russian war effort, existential threat from Russia.
The thing that I have not been able to find anywhere in news reporting is the speech President Putin made two days ago at the Valdai conference.
I had never heard of it.
Have you ever heard of the Valdai Conference?
The Valdai Conference.
Hold on a second.
I have it here.
V-A-L-D-A-I. I thought I had Valdai.
Yes, the Valdai International Discussion Club.
International framework for the leading experts from around the world to debate on Russia and its role in the world.
And this was pretty cool.
They had, you know, the banners and everything in the background of this event.
The New World Order.
What, you know, I think the subtext was, what is it, has it turned out what it was supposed to be, or something like that.
And they have a whole bunch of, from around the world, from America, from China, from Russia, obviously.
This is, it's kind of like, hmm, I guess it would be, what would the equivalent be?
No different, really, from Obama speaking at some NATO conference, I guess.
Not the same stature, not the same size.
But Putin's speaking.
Now, the problem with Putin speaking is he's speaking Russian.
So it really is not good for television.
It's not good for soundbites.
And it's really not even appropriate for audio soundbites for our show.
But I felt I had to pull a few.
There is a translated version of his speech.
And I have a couple quotes from his speech and then one little quick Q&A from an interesting person.
And this is one of the only places, I guess, where we can get down to and at least expose some of what he is actually saying instead of what other people are telling you his thoughts are or what he is thinking.
Fair enough?
Yeah, go.
Okay.
So this is Putin.
Now, of course, this is the transcript that I have linked in the show notes.
It's more detailed.
It's an after-the-fact transcript.
I encourage you to read it.
Actually, it looks like we wrote it.
I have to say, if you read those things, like, holy crap.
This is the no-agenda show read by the Russian president.
It's really quite astounding.
Here he is, and it's all about America and how America operates, and luckily he does have some ideas at the very end.
Here we go.
Ways of influencing those defined are well known and have been tried and tested so many times.
There is media pressure, there is interference in the domestic affairs, and there are attempts at attributing legitimacy to attempts to meddle in the interior affairs.
In recent years, we've had evidence that certain national leaders had been blackmailed.
The big brother has been spending billions of dollars on spionage and surveillance all around the world, including spying on their closest allies.
So, if I heard correctly...
President Putin just said, not only does the United States meddle in everybody else's affairs, but they blackmail leaders using their big NSA spy apparatus.
Which, of course, we've always surmised.
Yes.
Let's all ask ourselves, how comfortable and safe do we feel living in a world like that?
How just and how rational is it?
Would you say we have no reasons to be concerned and ask these uncomfortable questions?
Maybe the United States is exclusive in pursuing its leadership, and maybe that is a good thing.
Interfering in everyone's relations all over the world is something that brings us peace, stability, prosperity and democracy.
Clearly he's being facetious, but I like that.
Maybe we all should simply, you know, let them do it to us.
I dare say this is not true.
Unilateral dictatorship and imposing their own templates on us has actually led to something that was very contrary to what they had intended.
Instead of resolving conflicts, we see escalation.
Instead of stability we see increasing chaos.
Instead of democracy we see them supporting some very murky activists from open Nazis to very dangerous Islamic fundamentalists.
Sorry, I have to agree.
I can't disagree.
There's a lot of evidence pointing towards that.
Because those forces are used initially as instruments, but then they just go out of control.
And there are so-called masterminds that get burned in that.
I can't help wonder how time and again they continue to repeat their own mistakes.
They used to sponsor Islamic extremist movements to fight the Soviet Union.
They were tried and tested in Afghanistan and later gave rise to Taliban and Al-Qaeda.
Pretty much true, right?
Oh no, it's all true.
It's all in the money.
And I think he makes a good point.
He kind of indicates that we're a bunch of boneheads.
Yes, yes.
With a lot of money.
Well, speaking of the money, and that was the longest clip I have, the shorter ones now.
Speaking of the money.
As for financial aid for terrorists, nowadays it's not only revenues from drug trafficking, which, by the way, increased...
Manyfold during the US-led military presence in Afghanistan.
But we also see terrorist activities nowadays funded by illegal oil trade and oil trafficking.
They deliver oil themselves, they transport it illegally, and they sell it illicitly at illegal prices.
But if there are sellers, then there are buyers.
Someone has been buying that oil, not caring that...
By virtue of that, they effectively finance terrorists who can one day come to their own countries and start taking lives there.
Yeah, yeah.
He was buying that order.
I didn't know about this.
That was interesting.
By the way, this guy would be great on a talk show.
Putin or the translator?
I'm pretty...
I know he speaks English.
He's just...
He doesn't speak the kind of English that he needs for this sort of...
But I'll bet if you went and you said, hey Vlad, hookers and blow, everybody go, yeah.
I bet he knows.
What about the illegal oil?
Yeah, the illegal sales for illegal prices.
Let's talk a bit about the global strategy of the US. We see what happens when you mix politics with the economy, and when you substitute a logic of cooperation with a logic of confrontation, even when it is contrary to national business interests, joint economic projects, mutual investments.
Bring countries together, and that's an objective fact.
They help us mitigate the existing intergovernmental problems and issues.
But nowadays, the global business community is experiencing unprecedented pressure from Western governments.
What kind of pragmaticism can we talk about when they have this motto, the free world is in danger, democracy is in danger.
We need to mobilize to repel the threat.
Well, that is mobilization policy as they come.
It's a mobilization policy, exactly.
One day, I'm glad we're doing this now, because one day it will be unlawful to say the president of Russia is saying something smart.
It will be unpatriotic.
It will be wrong.
You'll be seen as a red, a Russian lover, a Ruski, gay hater, of course.
Pinko!
Pinko!
They're not even really communists anymore, but that's okay.
And let's look at the rebelization strategy, which, of course, Putin is all on to.
Duh!
Our Western counterparts used to try to exploit those situations by engineering so-called orange revolutions and by trying to court these extremist movements.
But now the genie is out of the bottle.
And we see that even those proponents of this managed chaos concept, they don't know what to do with the genie anymore.
We see growing discussion and debates in the Western academic and expert community.
It would be enough to look at the headlines in the Western media.
The same people are first portrayed as fighters for democracy and then as Islamic radicals.
First, the Western media tell us about people's revolutions and then they get described as coups and riots and unrest.
Well, to wind it up with his little speech, he ends his speech with a strategy for moving forward.
And I want everyone to listen to this.
When people say Putin wants to...
What are the key talking points, John?
And of course, this is only what he's saying.
It doesn't mean that this is what he's doing.
But the key talking points are...
Hates gays, obviously.
Expansionist.
Expansionist.
Back revisionist.
Wants to go back to the old empire.
Revisionist Russia.
What else does he want to do?
Hates dogs.
Hates dogs.
Just wants to fight us.
I would say he wants to fight.
He's stubborn.
He's stubborn.
Dear colleagues, Russia has made its choice.
Our priorities are in favor of further improving democratic institutions and developing our economy.
Considering the global trends of today, we want to consolidate our society based on traditional values and patriotism.
We have a peaceful, integrational We're good to go.
It is also baseless to argue that Russia is trying to restore some kind of empire and trying to destroy the sovereignty of its neighboring states.
Russia does not demand some kind of exclusive role in the world.
I would like to emphasize that we do respect the interests of others, but we would like our interests and our opinions to be respected likewise.
It is obvious that the world has now entered into a period of a deep and profound transformation, and we all need to be cautious and very deliberate in order to avoid some hasty and dangerous steps.
Some of the players in the global relations We have forgotten those rules in the years following the end of the Cold War.
We need to go back to that.
Otherwise, some of their ideas might prove serious delusion and the current trend might prove...
To be the beginning of destruction of the global world order.
We're talking about some serious hard work.
But we once managed to develop rules of conduct following the Second World War.
We managed to agree in the 1970s in Helsinki over the Helsinki process.
So it is our task to come to terms in this new stage of development.
Thank you very much.
So there is the pacifist Putin.
Rarely recognized as such.
Saying, hey, we all gotta calm down a little bit.
Here's my thinking about this.
The Russians used to be very good, not as good as we are since we invented it, at public relations and propaganda.
Although the Russians always get the label.
Oh, they have a label, yes.
But we're the superstars, and there's no question about it.
We rock.
We love to even do it to our own people.
We just love doing it.
It's one of the things we like to do.
Yes.
We enjoy it.
We lather ourselves in the luxury of propagandizing.
Propaganda.
And that's why the show we do is so interesting to people who are lathered in it, and then they get confronted with, because we deconstruct that.
Yes.
And only because we can also do that.
We could do propaganda.
Oh, hell yeah.
The consulting company should be getting more gigs.
We should be rolling in the dough.
We should be rolling in dough.
But the Russians have seemingly, they still have these old liners, these old Soviet types that are over in here that try to propagandize in favor of Russia or against us.
And it's always the same losers as the Workers' Party out of New York City, the Answer Group.
That group is just part of them.
That Workers' Party is the big stronghold of this stuff.
And they always push the, oh, capitalism is bad.
They just take it wrong.
They do everything wrong.
They push the wrong buttons.
The American public is not going to buy into anybody unless they're just KPFA listeners, the local radio station, the Pacifica, you know, Amy Goodman and the rest of these people that are just, they hate capitalism and they wish there was all, you know, kumbaya in a circle giving each other a hug and telling a secret.
Oh, there's no winning.
We don't like to foster a competitive atmosphere, but we laugh a lot.
Now everyone hug and share a secret!
Now, they're trying to do something with Russia today, and I think they're somewhat successful with some of their coverage.
And they do some counter-propagandizing.
I have a clip that might be part of this discussion, which is the RT. This is the introduction to a documentary they did on the downing of the airplane.
Have you seen it?
I thought it was well done.
Yeah, but you can't clip it because it was all subtitled.
Again, a blunder.
Yes.
Shows like us or anyone else, you could clip it if they would do voiceovers.
Hey, call me.
I can do voiceovers.
Yeah, he's good.
Yes, I can do it.
No, they did it all subtitled, so it's unusable.
But this was the beginning of the show.
This is the intro.
The United States did its very best to sort of stir up the tensions of Maidan.
It was, again, Victoria Nuland and a number of American officials who paid trips to Maidan, who were distributing cookies there, who were providing Maidan with political support.
Victoria Nuland should probably have been fired for the extremely inappropriate remarks made on an insecure telephone line to our ambassador about the crisis.
I think it was a mistake for her to pass out cookies to the demonstrators on Maidan.
Yep.
Yep.
This is, you know...
Interesting, but so ineffective.
For the new listeners to the program, Victoria Newland used to be the spokeswoman for the State Department, is now the Assistant Deputy Secretary of State, and I think she received the ambassador title somehow.
Real name, Noodleman, married to Robert Kagan, brother of Frederick Kagan, neocons who took us into Iraq.
Thank you.
Right.
Now...
And so the Russians have not...
I don't know what happened to their old apparatus that they used to do propaganda with, because when I was a kid, I was in the...
I believe this was the fifth or sixth grade.
We had one of the teachers was a staunch anti-communist type, and so was everybody in the country.
And I did a paper...
That was a listing for my final grade, and I got into it, finding all the Russian front groups that were in California, all the communist front groups.
And I remember doing it, and the thing must have been a hundred of them.
And they all had legitimate sounds.
This is like, you know, when we find the usual suspects, it's usually some global warming scam or some other thing, and there's always the same people involved, and they're on this group and that group and this group.
This is something the Russians had perfected in the mid-century, the last century.
And I don't know what happened to it.
I mean, did they just give up when the Soviet Union fell apart?
The Russians says, ah, okay, whatever.
I don't know what to do.
I think part of it is the internet.
They were caught a little flat-footed.
The internet consists of memes.
So ISIS and ISIL, IS, you know, they speak Arabic, but they cut people's heads off.
So you have some visuals that you can use.
The only visuals we have of Russia is Putin without his shirt on and doing cool stuff.
But there's no sound bites.
And they just need help.
Look at RT. Look at Russia today.
We said this many times.
You need sexier babes.
I think they've stepped up their game.
It's certainly gotten better.
But you cannot do this.
I saw the documentary.
It's about half an hour.
By coincidence or not, the link to the YouTube video is in the show notes today.
644.noagendanotes.com You can take a look at it.
It's well done.
I think there's a lot of merit to it.
Of course, we still have not seen the official data from the black boxes which the Russians keep asking for immediately.
And over and over again, and the Dutch are being complacent.
The Dutch safety board said, oh, well, they gave us some facts.
But that's it.
Shut up.
Don't talk to anybody.
Be quiet.
We're done here.
Final thing that I have on this, and by the way, thank you, Brian, the gay crusader.
The guy who finds the information about Putin hating gays, who wrote the white paper, who is gay.
And doesn't believe it.
He's fighting against this feeling that it's crazy.
Good luck!
Yeah, he says there's more inequality for LGBTQIAAP in the US than there is in Russia.
And our friends in Saudi Arabia, it's illegal to be gay and you get beheaded.
You know...
Brian put the G in gay.
So here...
No G in Brian.
He put the G in gay.
He put the G in gay.
Question now from the audience at this forum from Toby D. Gatti.
G-A-T-I. Ever hear of this woman?
No, never.
She is a former United States Assistant Secretary of State for Intelligence and Research from 93 to 97, so at the Clinton era.
And she's at the event?
She's at the event.
Nice.
In her role as, let me see, the...
Some NGO, I'm sure.
The consulting group, international law firm Aiken, Gump, Strauss, and Hoyer and Feld.
Oh, some group.
They're probably middlemen between a lot of American businesses in Russia that need...
I mean, we're screwing ourselves with this stuff in Russia because we've got so many American businesses over there.
Yes.
And I have a feeling that Toby and Vlad might enjoy a vodka together from time to time in the back room.
Frankly, I do not recognize the country you have described in your remarks.
My questions to you are the following.
Who are they, Ani, in your speech?
Is it President Obama?
Is it the American foreign policy elite?
Is it the American people?
Or is what you are describing in the genetic code of the United States in the post-war world?
She's nervous.
And you're saying, in effect, that you can't.
There was also some little kerfuffle before.
Some Chinese guy was trying to wrestle the mic away from her, and she wouldn't give it up.
There was some strange thing that happened, and we only got...
You don't see it happen, but you see there's a long pause, and you see Vladimir laughing, and I think she wrestled the mic away from some China guy.
But yeah, she's nervous.
It was a strange situation.
She's talking to the man.
Can't work with the United States at all, or with its closest allies.
What would you expect the American response to be to this speech?
First of all, I did not say the United States is a threat to Russia.
Like you said, President Obama does consider Russia a threat, but I do not regard the United States as a threat for us.
I do believe that the policies of the ruling elite In the United States, if you excuse me, this cliché is erroneous.
I'm sure it is contrary not only to Russia's interests, it also undermines confidence for the United States.
And as such, it actually inflicts damage on the U.S. itself.
It undermines its confidence as one of the global leaders, both in the economy and in the world of politics.
President Obama mentioned The Islamic State as one other threat.
But tell me, who actually initially helped arm the people who were fighting the Assad government in Syria?
Who was the one providing them with a favorable media climate, with a favorable media environment?
Who facilitated arms sales to those people?
Don't you know who is actually fighting in Syria?
It's mercenaries.
Do you know that mercenaries are people who fight for money and they actually fight where money, where the pay is higher?
You know, they get certain amounts of money as payments for waging war.
They have arms supplied to them.
But once they find out that in another country the pay is higher, they will actually migrate there because they're looking for more pay.
They managed to gain control of some oil deposits in Iraq or in Syria.
They started pumping oil there.
Do they have buyers who buy oil from them?
Yes, they do.
Why aren't sanctions imposed against those buyers?
Doesn't the United States know who those people are?
Isn't it their own allies who actually buy oil from terrorists?
Don't they have the capacity to influence their allies?
Or is it that they don't want to influence them?
As for American policies, I would love to see people like you heading the Department of State in the US, because maybe then we could change the situation.
Unless that is possible, I would request you, I would bid you to bring this idea over to the US President or the State Secretary.
Tell them that Russia does not seek confrontation.
As long as you respect our interest, a lot of the issues between us will be resolved.
But that will have to be actual respect, not only extensible, proclaimed respect.
Edited, of course, for long pauses, etc.
Now, I want to mention that we on this show have said the same thing about the oil.
Why is it being bought and sold on the international market when we could step in and just put an end to that?
There are some calls now for bombing pipelines in Syria, but I don't think that's going to get very far, because too many people benefit from this.
So it's good to hear a different version.
Of course, it's just words.
It doesn't mean that's, you know, I'm careful.
But, man, you know...
By the way, I have an answer for a question.
What do you think America's response to this speech will be?
My answer is, who is going to hear this speech?
Yeah, exactly.
Nobody.
Unless they listen to the No Agenda show.
The whole speech itself is...
I mean, you can...
I think Brian found an alternate translator, which is a little easier to listen to.
But really, just read the document.
It's well-written.
I can only believe it's a true translation.
It's good.
And you read it, you go, holy crap, this is everything we've been saying for years.
Which is irksome, because when you are saying the same thing as the enemy, this does not bode well for the future of the show.
Well, I think we could survive without talking about Putin.
I hope so.
Well, yeah, but that would be messed up.
That's the whole beauty of it.
Talking code.
This is like the olden days in the magazine publishing business.
Since everybody's corrupt, and I talk about this endlessly on the newsletter, and the last newsletter was no exception.
And so you're corrupted by advertisers.
So the worst corruption is in very...
I would say focused small publications that were, for example, the hi-fi magazines.
You know, all these magazines that talked about hi-fi gear.
Not the high-end ones, but just the regular ones.
Stereo Review or whatever.
Maybe that may be a high-end one.
Before computers, we had magazines.
Yeah.
Yeah, there was all these stereo magazines, and when you talk to the writers, or they ever get interviewed, they always said they had to talk in code.
Because they had a piece of, let's say, a Harman Kardon amplifier that they were reviewing.
And they were big advertisers.
No, you don't say!
And the amplifier could be a piece of crap.
So they had to talk in code.
And so they had all these code words for piece of crap.
Oh, okay.
What are the code words?
Under most circumstances and all, you know, this...
I don't even know what the weasel words are anymore, but they were all in there.
And then when there was a good piece of...
A really good product that they liked, they would be very...
terrific amp.
I would buy one.
I can't.
This is the best thing I've heard for months.
Totally different.
But they would never say anything bad.
Actually, I was in China once giving a lecture to some Chinese journalists about this.
That, by the way, I think you should do that differently.
I was in China once giving a lecture.
Accentuate that shit, boys.
I know, it sounds like a tall story.
Don't just throw it away.
Just throw it away.
It was a little...
And I talked to the Chinese.
They have to be this way with everything.
Whether there's advertisers or not, because they're culturally can't insult people.
So they use all kinds of very unique ways of saying bad things about you.
But this is a part of the corrupt system that we deal with, and we don't deal with it on this show.
No, we don't.
We don't.
And the only way that we can do that is by not having advertisers, not taking money any other way from the people who are what we call producers.
Yes, you all listen.
We all listen.
We're all listeners, but we're contributing.
We're producers and people do that in many ways.
And the most important way for us to stay on the air is through our financial contributions, just like any big Hollywood production.
Or any big news production.
We like to credit the executive and associate executive producers in the opening credits.
We always have a long opening to the show, and then we have a separate thank you segment.
So with that, I'd like to thank you for your courage and say, in the morning to you, John C. DeVorek.
Well, in the morning to you, Adam Curry, in the morning to all the ships at sea, boots on the ground, subs in the water, and all the dames and knights out there.
Feet in the air, by the way, too.
Yes, feet in the air.
In the morning to everyone in the chat room celebrating our seven years today.
Thank you very much for the human resources showing up.
In the morning to our artists who have been with us from almost day one, I believe.
No, you did art.
Our first piece of art.
It was actually the two guys.
Oh, you remember.
They started giving us art, and then they put up the art generator.
That's right.
And we are greatly indebted, and they both got knighthoods.
Joe Wagner created the art for episode 663, and we appreciate that.
Good piece of art.
Very nice.
Can't wait to see what we have for our seventh anniversary.
We don't have a big retrospective talking about how groovy we are.
We could do it.
Hey, man, you were great on that show about the oil pipelines.
Yeah, man, I was.
So let's thank a few of our executive producers for this show, which is show 664.
And we want to remind people we've got two shows to go, which is next Sunday, which is also Daylight Savings Time by no coincidence.
That's right.
Show 666. Citizens and slaves of Giddo Nation, please rise in recognition of Sir David Foley, Grand Duke of the United States of America.
Fuck yeah.
Foley!
Yay!
So David Foley came in at the last second.
By the way, there's a lot of people that came in after midnight, and we will continue the celebration through the next show on Thursday.
And we'll be congratulating ourselves.
And then after that, we just push for 666.
Okay.
So you'll get mentioned in the next show and under the same circumstances.
Sir David Foley came with $777.77.
Congrats on seven years of providing the best podcast in the universe and close.
Please find a sack of sevens to celebrate.
Sevens to the max.
Yes.
Credit this toward my son's London knighthood.
My son London's knighthood.
And send him a birthday shout out as today is his ninth birthday.
Oh, that's no coincidence.
Interesting.
Uh-huh, uh-huh.
Yeah, he's a cute kid, by the way.
Best wishes and hoping you have, and then I don't have anything.
And let me restate that.
Nine-year-old guys don't want to hear that they're cute.
Awesome-looking dude.
He's cute.
Sorry.
Especially when he wears a little hat.
No, he's a Minecraft maniac.
Oh, is he?
Oh, yeah.
He's very good.
That's good.
It's good for the something.
Future night.
We need the young'uns.
Future night.
He says, best wishes and hoping you have a happy 7th.
I don't have any more on the spreadsheet.
Justin Hilton in Festus, Missouri.
$700.
This is nice.
Happy 7th anniversary.
You guys do a great job.
Keep it up.
I want to become a knight while I'm still 33.
This donation gets me there.
Now, as a producer of this episode, I'd like to encourage you guys to stop trying to change how you speak.
I'd rather hear weird or essentially than weird, oops, I mean weird again, I mean unusual.
Once again, we've done this for years, and at some point that stops happening.
It's a piccadillo.
It's a little thing that we go through.
Although I don't need to say things like this.
Although I am now finding myself, and even Miss Mickey is backing me up.
We walk down First Street to grab a bite to eat, and there's these little old Austin houses that have been converted into little shops with overpriced jewelry.
It's what happens.
So we walk in, and, hi guys, have you ever been here before?
No, we haven't.
Oh, awesome!
And I said, no, it's not awesome.
Immaculate Conception is awesome.
Oh, you must be a thrill to go shopping with.
No, no.
Especially with these idiots out there.
And she looks at me and I'm just trying to give the word awesome its power back.
That's all.
That's all.
This fell on deaf ears.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
Man, that guy's a dick.
And he didn't buy anything either.
Douchebag.
Cheap prick.
Fucking douche.
Yeah.
All right.
I'd rather hear weirder essentially than blah, blah, blah.
Once again, you guys are awesome.
Happy anniversary.
Can I get some whoop-em with the Constitution karma?
Thanks.
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
You've got karma.
Wow.
I hadn't heard the long version in quite a while.
Yeah.
I think it's good.
Little J from the east side of St.
Paul.
Five, four, three, two, one.
That's another nice twist.
Maplewood comes in from Maplewood, Minnesota, but he's in East St.
Paul.
This is Little J from East St.
Paul.
ITM, John and Adam.
Admire your courage.
Please send good karma and little girl yay to our military.
Always.
Jobs, jobs, and more jobs to those just getting by.
You guys rock on.
Your deconstructions are amazing.
And then, of course, he dies, too, because I think this was that one, the new donation click thing on YouTube has a limit of how many words?
First of all, PayPal, not YouTube.
Did I say YouTube?
Yeah.
Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
Let's vote for jobs!
Yay!
Yay!
You've got karma.
Yeah, you said YouTube, and I'm just going to let it slide.
It's been seven years.
I said YouTube instead of PayPal.
Yeah, you did.
Well, you know, I have run out of my methyl B12. And I ordered some over the Amazon.
Ah, but do you have enough craisins on hand?
I'm out of craisins.
This has become quite the meme in the no agenda circles.
People are all in on the craisins.
You can get a box of these things for free from Cranberry Farms or whoever those guys are.
Yeah, it's a brand from the big company, from craisins.
That's not a fruit.
Well, I'm sorry I ever said it now.
You should be.
If I get the methyl B12, I'll be back in business.
Methyl B12, Mickey takes that.
I also take pro-symbiotic.
Does she take the cobalamin stuff?
I don't know.
The methyl is the one you want.
Okay.
I think that's what she has.
I take pro-symbiotic.
That stuff is good.
You should take that.
Yeah, I don't think that's going to help my brain.
No, but it helps your poop.
My poop is fine.
Well, okay.
That's my weak spot.
So I'm a little too pro-symbiotics in the morning.
Eat more cheese.
More cheese?
You eat cheese all the day?
I'm a cheese head.
I'm from Holland.
You should move to Wisconsin.
No, no.
There's nothing really like Dutch cheese.
Dutch cheese.
I like Dutch cheese.
I like Dutch cheese.
But there's a sameness and blandness to it that gets on your nerves after all.
You've got to have a good French stinky cheese.
Mickey's the French stinky cheese expert.
I like the Goudas, the Bamesters, and particularly really old, aged Gouda.
And cheddar with cumin.
Oh!
Oh, brother.
Do you have a cheese slicer?
I have five of them.
Okay.
But that's a sign of a true cheese aficionado.
Davel.
Hey, Davel.
Davel.
Daniel Hochstein in Surprise, Arizona.
Who did not change his clocks.
Arizona does not participate in this scam.
I admire them.
I do, too.
3334.
Dear John and Adam, attach to my donation of 3334.
I'm heading your call.
Heating.
I'm heeding your call for Sunday donations, and everyone out there should be doing the same.
No agenda programming is consistently top-notch, and I congratulate you both on keeping the quality of the show as high as it is.
Nothing else even comes close to educating the masses on what's really going on.
Please send me some new business karma, a stuttering Porky Pig Obama, if you don't mind.
I'd appreciate another mention of my tech business, Media Technologies Consulting, We provide a unique in-house promotion system that helps restaurant and bar owners increase sales with their flat-screen TVs called Dynamic Edge.
Oh, yeah.
Is that in my kitchen?
It's the only system that lets them add promotional content to their existing live TV program.
Oh, I know what they're doing.
And this is a good idea because almost every single restaurant in America, even high-end in Austin particularly, the bar always has TVs on.
Now, I think what he might be doing here, I don't know.
It's like a pass-through system.
He's going to see a demo at GetDigitalSigns.com.
So try that.
But here's what I would think is a cool idea.
By the way, he's N2IQF. He's a ham.
Here's what I would do.
I mean, if I did this invention, I would look for...
There's a code that comes across when the commercials begin.
As soon as that code hits, you play a local commercial in your restaurant.
Hey, by the way, we got a real sale on Ramos Fizz!
You know, just ask the bartender, kind of thing.
And then when the code comes in saying we're going back to the programming, you pull the ads and boom, you're back to the...
That's not what they're doing.
They have a unique video wrap technology that lets you enhance your existing TV programming, giving your previously unused screen space to customize and add things like happy hour and meal specials, live sports or news tickers, Sports channel lineups, special events, and entertainment calendars.
Well, that means there's room for another company.
He should be...
Well, he should add that.
It's a good idea.
I think it's a really good idea.
That's a very good idea.
Why, you know, if you're playing something locally, you know, it might be a violation of some license, but you're playing something locally, probably illegally if it's in the bar, you might as well pull those ads out and put your own ads in.
And maybe even some local businesses.
Anyway, it's just a thought.
Sir Dallas...
Wait, wait, wait.
No, no.
Whoa, whoa.
Sorry, he needs a bunch of clips.
That's how we work.
That's all for it.
And that's the story.
Beep, beep, beep.
You've got karma.
All right.
Sir Dallas Spongberg...
From the Rocky Mountain House in Alberta, Canada.
I'm not going to say anything about Alberta anymore.
262.
Happy 7th anniversary to the best podcast in the universe.
I'm in need of a de-douching as I have been neglecting to donate on the grounds that now I am a broke college student.
I'm a broke college student.
Now that he's only one person.
I also did the maths with a Z. And this should finish my second knighthood.
I would like to be a boom shakalaka karma for my family as tough times await us in the coming months.
Now this is a guy that's out of work, student.
Keep doing what you're doing and may we see another seven years of glorious no agenda.
Thank you.
And I presume, or I can assume, when do you use pre-Zoom and when do you use assume?
Well, I presume and I assume, well, you never use assume because that makes an ass out of you and me.
So I would never use the word use presume all the time.
Okay.
Thank you very much for clarifying.
I presume that he is supporting the program as it makes him, it's a form of education and he's an investment.
A mental health.
Investment in his own health, yeah.
Yeah, no, it's a good thing.
Thank you very much.
A de-douching is what he wanted first, so I make sure he get that.
He deserves it.
You've been de-douched. Big dingo. Boom, boom, chakalaka. Boom, boom, boom, chakalaka. Boom, boom, chakalaka. Boom, chakalaka. You've got karma.
That should tide him over.
Sir Norman McDonough in Woodstock, Ontario, Canada.
Two, three, four, five, six.
Sir Norman McDonough, happy seventh, and may I have a job, job, job, job, followed by her head is gone.
All the best.
Well, yeah, I think we can do that.
Let me see.
Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
Let's vote for jobs!
Yay!
And your head is gone.
You've got karma.
Nice.
You know, I like that combination.
That's a good combo.
Yeah, it's a good combo.
Sir Edward Sheets, Esquire, in Brewerton, New York, 22222.
Lads, you guys rock.
Thanks for the hard work and the fine efforts.
Remember, Cuban cigars and single malt scotch for all at the table.
Nice.
Sir Sheets.
Gracias.
Twin Engine Coffee in Hialeah, Florida is back 2-12-12.
Thanks for mentioning Twin Engine Coffee on the last show.
When people order at TwinEngineCoffee.com, Noah Jenner will make a donation.
We will make a donation to the show.
Chuck W. ordered a bag of coffee for each of you, and you'll be getting a bag of our reserve coffee.
We are just poor slaves, but this is how we can help support the show.
John, please check your inbox.
I think you have missed some emails from me.
What, you wrote them back?
Yeah, I said no.
I never got my coffee.
That's what I told him.
Vladislav Dubov in Moscow.
Yep.
Moscow, Russia, $200.
And I looked and looked and looked, and I couldn't find a note from using his name as search and using his email address as search.
Can I check for a second?
Yes.
You may have gotten some.
And we appreciate all...
We do have Russian listeners, which is...
Tons of them.
They don't give us a lot of scoops, but they do...
I don't know as if they have scoops.
Yeah, I think they're...
Yeah, you're probably right.
I just don't think it's really...
I mean, Russians are big gossips.
Where does that come from?
Is that true?
I don't know.
I think so.
You have to be if you're repressed.
The news media is, like, locked down.
Americans are big gossips.
You know, I think it's...
I think it's a cultural thing.
The Russians and Americans, we're very alike.
The people.
I went to Russia before David Hasselhoff brought the wall down.
Thank God for the Hoff.
And I hung out with Russians.
They're very much like us.
And I think they are saddened to see how we are kind of going through what they went through for decades.
And they're just kind of standing back and they probably know it makes no sense to try and convince us of any other path than the one we're on.
Does that sound about right?
I don't know.
I mean, all I know is that we can't convince anybody to listen to the show if they're like locked down as Obama bots.
Well, there's that problem.
People don't change.
I mean, if they're already kind of like falling off the cliff, you can push them and they'll fall off.
Right.
But if they're like not even near a cliff, you can't push them off the cliff.
Right.
And also, you know, they know that their elites are also douchebags.
I mean, yeah, Putin, of course, is not a good guy.
Like, Obama, of course, is not a good guy.
Ultimately, all people in power are just a-holes.
It's just the way it works.
This is what it is.
That's what it is.
It is what it is.
Thank you all very much for your support of the program.
Thank you to our executive producers, our associate executive producers.
It means the world to us.
For seven years, I always get up with a smile on my face, not knowing what the next paycheck is going to be like, but I have faith.
In the show, I have faith in the partnership.
I have so much faith in our international, our global intelligence network, which is producing the show.
So take a bow yourselves, everybody.
Let me give everybody an extra karma, and thank you once again for...
Supporting us.
You've got karma.
And we will have another show on Thursday.
And of course, next Sunday is the big 666.
So we hope everyone will be out for that as well.
And even though it's kind of futile, please go out and try to propagate our formula.
Our formula is this.
We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
World Order.
Shut up, ladies.
Shut up, babe.
And also, we're just a comedy podcast.
Yeah.
And I'm really here just to make John laugh.
When I make John C. Dvorak laugh...
Which is difficult.
The real laugh.
I'm not the ha-ha.
No, you have this girly laugh when you're really laughing.
Yeah!
Yes, it's a bit like that.
I have a different...
When I'm really, really...
Well, you get away from the mic and you don't embarrass yourself.
I have to.
We'll talk about funny...
Okay, you want to have my laugh story?
I get the laugh story.
Alright.
This is the laugh story.
This is my...
This is a good one.
This is the foot fondler on the loose.
A bizarre arrest at a Southern California college after a man reportedly fondled a woman's foot and put it in his mouth without her consent.
Omiko Ofuedu was arrested on the Cal State San Marcos campus Thursday night.
Police say there are reports he also harassed students at the campus library and at the Starbucks next door.
He reportedly also harassed students down the street at Palomar College.
It's kind of a weird fetish to have, but it's still creepy to know that there's someone on campus kind of being weird to girls.
Wait a minute!
So he just walks up, grabs your foot, and puts it in his mouth?
Apparently, yes.
That's great.
That's great.
Only in Southern California.
I think it's going on everywhere.
This is nuts.
Hey, buddy, there's a thing called Craigslist.
Get to work.
Hey, Euroland is hilarious.
This we know.
I'm sorry?
I said this we know.
Yeah, well, there's a couple of things that have been going on.
First of all, everyone's out, you know, everyone's leaving, so there have been all kinds of fun speeches, and Farage did a little fun speech, but what was really funny is...
There was a...
The European Union said, oh, hey, you know, everyone has to contribute to the budget, but we have done our recalculation, and, you know, there's some countries that owe some extra money, including the United Kingdoms of Gitmo Nation East, who now have been sent a 2.1 billion euro bill, an extra bill, and surprisingly...
The Netherlands, number two on the list, with a whopping 642 million euro bill.
That they need to pay for the European Union.
They're deadbeats.
Yes, they're deadbeats for not paying, and this has resulted in outrage, I would say.
Outrage mainly, well, first from the Prime Minister, who is in a very precarious situation now.
He cannot seem weak regarding Europe, and Cameron was just, he may be a deadbeat, but he's going to say, he's going to prove he's a deadbeat.
Let me just make a couple of points about this.
First of all, now, according to the Commission, it is an estimate.
It is not a final figure.
And we need to make sure the Commission start answering questions and the experts start answering questions about how on earth these numbers were arrived at.
Because let me put it like this.
Of course, in an organisation like this, if your economy grows a little faster or your economy grows a little slower, there are adjustments.
And there can be adjustments every year.
And we've seen them.
Sometimes you pay a little bit more.
Sometimes you pay a little bit less.
But it has never been the case that a €2 billion bill has suddenly been presented.
And it is not acceptable.
It is an appalling way to behave.
I'm not paying that bill on the 1st of December if people think they've got another thing coming.
It is not going to happen.
These emergency meetings need to take place.
The figures need to be thoroughly investigated and An explanation of how this happened needs to be properly produced, but people should be in no doubt.
As an important contributor to this organization, we are not suddenly going to get out our checkbook and write a check for €2 billion.
It is not happening.
Okie dokie.
Well, Barroso, who was, of course, on his way out, did have a few words to say.
I bet.
What?
I'll bet!
Yeah, he's like, hey man, this is the way it goes, shut up!
These corrections are made every year.
In some years, the net effect will be to increase a member state's contribution.
That is the case for the UK, the Netherlands, and some others this year.
In other cases, the net effect will be to reduce the contribution.
This was the case for the UK, for instance, in 2008.
The Commission is, of course, ready to provide Member States any additional explanations.
In the context of the MFF, the Commission had proposed different criteria for establishing European budget through own resources rather than GNI. Member States in the Council insisted on maintaining GNI as a key element of the budget calculation base.
The statistical effect has therefore been built into the system by the Budgetary Authority.
So, according to the information I received from the Commission services, from my legal experts, this was a decision taken in full independence by the statistical entities.
And, of course, I understand the concerns that it has raised in London.
I mean, any person that wants to look with objectivity and honesty to the rules that were approved by Member States has to accept that sometimes these decisions happen.
Yeah, so you need to shut the F up, essentially, is what he said.
What did Great Britain get?
For this $2.5 billion that they spend on the EU. Oh, hold on.
That's just an extra.
They spend $8 billion annually.
They contribute €55 billion a day to the EU. Well, I can tell you.
Not €55 billion a day.
A million.
I'm sorry, a million.
I looked at the, here it is, the EU budget 2014 in figures.
Now the entire budget of the European Union for 2014.
This is a good operation that just has meetings.
Let me tell you what's going on.
142 billion euros, give or take.
142 billion 640 and a half million.
59% of that.
What is the number one?
Interesting.
Number one is...
Okay, here we go.
The top chunk of the pie, and this is from looking at the European Commission website, 59.2%, goes toward, you're going to love it, sustainable growth natural resources.
I'm sorry?
Yeah, that's where most of the money goes to.
Sustainable...
You said the total budget $144 billion?
Billion, yeah.
Okay.
And 59% of that goes to sustainable growth, natural resources?
Yes, which is code for subsidies for farmers.
That's most of what that is.
Isn't that a WTO violation?
It has to do...
I don't know.
That I don't know.
That I don't know.
Okay, so they give...
So that would be, what, 72...
Let me accept that.
$80 billion goes to subsidies for farmers.
Yes.
And, of course, most of this, what the European Union is about, is equality and picking up the weak brothers and sisters, etc.
Then we have number two...
47.5% of the money goes toward economic, social, and territorial cohesion.
I'm sorry, 33%.
What does that mean?
I got the numbers wrong, John.
I'm sorry.
I was looking at the amounts and not the percentages.
So, sustainable growth is 41.6%, almost $60 billion.
Economic, social, and territorial cohesion is 33.3%.
What does that mean?
The fuck if I know.
I'm just asking.
Territorial cohesion.
It's bringing...
It's probably...
Meetings.
Meetings, yeah.
Then we have the third, with 11.6%, competitiveness for growth and jobs.
More meetings.
Then we have administration.
That is the buildings, the people, the...
Right, people that set up the meetings.
6%.
So that is...
How much would that be?
That would be quite a bit of money.
About 10 billion.
8 billion, maybe.
Then global Europe gets 5.8%, whatever that means.
Then security and citizenship, 1.5%.
But if you really look at the explanation of the entire budget, let me see, I have another link here.
Let's look at the Book of Knowledge kind of explains it in layman's terms.
The European Union has a budget to pay for policies carried out at European levels, such as agriculture, assistance to poorer regions, trans-European networks, research, some overseas development aid, and for its administration, including a parliament, executive branch, and judiciary that are distinct from those of the member states.
These arms administer the application of treaties, laws, and agreements between the member states and their expenditure on common policies throughout the Union.
Now, the way the budget is determined and what the member states must pay is based upon their economies.
Here is a 17-second explanation.
The adjustment is based on the growth of the UK economy compared to others in the EU. After the recalculation, Germany reduces its EU fees by £614 million, France by £789 million, while Britain adds £1.7 billion to its EU membership subs.
And I think there was a mistake that was made.
You'll recall the Office for National Statistics recalculated the size of the UK national income to take account of unreported and other...
Under-reported parts of the economy, such as research and development, drugs and prostitution.
I remember the drugs and prostitution thing.
And they added some money and said, hey, look at us!
They're adding money to cook the books because the economy was weak, and now they get stuck with a bill.
Hey, ironic!
Exactly.
George Osborne, the Chancellor of the Exchequer, I think it's unacceptable.
It's an unacceptable way for this organization to operate, that countries like Britain, and indeed other countries, Italy, Holland, are just presented with these demands for extra money without any notice.
David Cameron, while we're doing this...
How much does it do you have, by the way?
Well, we were told earlier this week...
Earlier this week?
Earlier this week.
I think we've told on Tuesday.
Why did we only learn now about this?
Well, because it's surfaced as the European Council approaches, right?
I mean, we've absolutely...
Full ambush, then.
That's the point where...
Well, ambush...
Even the President of the European Commission yesterday said he didn't have a clue about this, and that was yesterday.
So somewhere in the organisation, they've produced these numbers.
It's not acceptable.
It's not an acceptable way for the organisation to work.
And David Cameron, alongside the Italian Prime Minister, the Dutch Prime Minister, the Greek Prime Minister, are raising these issues...
As we're doing this interview at the European Council.
You honestly had no idea this was coming.
We knew the numbers had been revised.
We knew there was a new assessment.
Isn't it naive to say you wouldn't have known that this was going to be reassessed?
This appears to have been a calculation done in the bowels of the European Commission, handed out at a meeting of relatively junior civil servants.
Based on hookers.
Yeah.
Based on hookers and drugs.
I would make the argument, look, if France isn't going to put their hookers into the calculation, and Italy's not putting their hookers in the calculation, we'll give you a different number that you can charge us for.
Everyone should be counting their hookers.
Yeah.
Bad, bad business.
Sense otherwise.
Have you ever seen the president of Lithuania?
I think so.
Blonde girl?
Blonde girl?
No.
Oh.
No.
Wikipedia, she's known as the Iron Lady.
You need to check this check out.
I think we talked about her before.
I don't recall.
Dahlia Grabowski.
Just a way you have a president.
Look at her.
You gotta look at her.
You gotta look at her.
Before I play the clip.
Okay.
You gotta look at her.
This woman is all business.
Oh, this one.
Yeah.
Yeah, no, she's not a blonde girl.
She is a...
Iron lady.
Yeah, I say an iron lady.
Tough, a tough, a tough cookie.
A tough, tough woman.
Tough, tough, tough.
And here's what she had to say.
She looks like John McCain, actually.
Never seen in the same photo.
He's got a picture.
He's got the images of John McCain showed up for some reason in this picture.
Google images.
I'm sure you see what that's all about.
Google algorithms.
Lithuanian president meets U.S. Senator John McCain.
Oh, there you go.
All right, ready?
Yeah.
It's happening every time and every year and nothing new.
And that's the case today.
1.7 billion.
I mean, that's a lot of money that Britain's got to find.
I'm sorry, but better to be more precise with calculations.
Yeah.
Hey, go ahead.
Argue with that, Mr.
Cameron.
Of course, one person is delighted with this news.
And that would be Nigel Farage.
Well, we already paid £55 million a day as a membership fee to this club.
To be asked for a whole load more and given a few days in which to pay it, it's pretty outrageous.
And I think people will be very, very angry.
And it just leaves Mr Cameron in a hopeless position, because don't forget, one of his big claims was he'd cut the EU budget.
The result of that cut was actually our contribution had already gone up a little bit, and now it's gone up a load.
So, you know, frankly, the sooner this all comes to a head and the British have a referendum on this subject, the better.
Yay, yay.
And the Dutch Prime Minister, Mark Rutte, who is just a weasel boy, He doesn't know what to say.
But we'll have conversations about this.
And Dyselbloom, who was the guy coordinating all of the financial union, the fiscal union, he had said time and again in the Netherlands, no, we won't get a bill at the end of the year.
No, we're all good.
We're all good.
And it shows up, but now he's looking like a douche.
Yeah.
This is all very interesting.
$642 million.
I don't know how they can afford it, but look at those fancy buildings they built and these meetings they have and they pay for travel.
It adds up.
They really built up a fantastic operation.
It's beautiful.
But the place is in shambles and they just completed their Stress test of the banks.
Yeah.
And the numbers are in, I believe, 25...
Banks in the European Union did not stand the test, and they now have to, they have a number of months, have to see, somewhere in 2015, these 25 banks have to raise, or at least have, I think, 10 to 15 billion extra euros in their coffers in order to be financially sound.
And to be able to withstand any kind of Armageddon.
Oh, here it is.
25 EU banks fail.
Oh, a 31.68 billion capital shortfall.
So each of these have to increase their capital by 15 billion euros.
This is nine months they have to cover that.
So I guess they have to issue shares in order to do that.
Staying with banksters real quick.
Thierry Leunlin, Dominique Strauss-Kahn, former IMF head, ousted under false pretense.
Dominique Strauss-Kahn's partner committed suicide jumping from his 23rd floor apartment.
They have a hedge fund together.
What the heck do you think happened here?
Yeah, this we don't know.
Perhaps almost as interesting, senior Deutsche Bank regulatory lawyer found dead in New York after committing suicide, Carlo Gero Gambino, 41, hung himself.
Which nobody does, by the way.
Thank you.
Happens to be very well known by ex-banker friend here in Austin.
So I will be getting inside information.
Let's assume these two were murdered.
And if we make that assumption, the question remains why.
What is going on?
Well, I don't know about the...
The Dominik Strauss-Kahn guy, the Gambino guy, was closely involved in negotiating legal issues for Deutsche in their role in the manipulation of the LIBOR benchmark.
That's scandal.
Yeah, but that's an old scandal.
Yeah.
So maybe, you know, it's regulatory stuff, but still.
I mean, the guy's 41.
Somebody had to pick up the drug money from HSBC. I mean, I agree with you.
I think this hanging thing is lame.
Yeah, no, you've talked to some suicide folks, experts, they expect two things.
One, you don't hang yourself, and you leave a suicide note.
I don't know if there was a suicide note, but we will find out.
We will find out.
Because I emailed my buddy, and he wrote me back, and it was apparent that he knew him very well, to try to find stuff out.
And I said, well, the conspiracy nut jobs are out and about.
It's my way of kind of saying, hey, I'll clear his name for you.
Just give me the inside details.
Conspiracy.
Yeah, every time somebody is reported, we get emails about it.
I like the way you handle.
This is the Adam Curry division on the No Agenda show.
He handles all the emails about suicide.
So write to him, adam at curry.com.
Yeah.
Oh, and by the way, thank you, everybody.
I can see that you're using Twitter more often if you just want to send me a link.
And here's another reason I like this.
If you have to actually explain something to me, of course you can write me, but I'd prefer not.
If you can just send the link with your 140 characters of explanation.
Because whenever I've seen the link, I favorite your tweet.
So that you know that I've seen it.
Do you favor it or do you favor it?
You actually favor things.
I've never favored anything, ever.
So the only reason I do it is because that sends a signal back to the person that I saw it.
It's much easier than reply, hitting reply in an email.
Oh, like!
It's like hitting a like, but it doesn't really send out a ping to anybody in my news feed.
And sometimes I retweet them if they're good.
If they're really good, I'm not going to retweet it.
This is a little thing you need to understand.
Because I want to save it for the show.
And please consider, when you put both of us on emails and tweets, it's not always a good thing.
No, just if there's really good material, like very deep inside stuff, just send it to me.
Yeah, exactly.
So it can go into the void of nothingness.
Yeah.
Well, okay.
If that's the way you feel.
No, I'm just kidding.
You know, I don't really mean that.
So we heard from our economic hitman.
Oh, okay.
You had said that we had kind of lost him.
Yeah, it's because it's Russian girlfriend of his.
Yeah, is that still on?
He didn't mention her in the email, so I don't know.
But he's in Africa and floating around.
It's a big place.
Yeah, well, he's floating around.
He claims that we're wrong about Ebola being a hoax.
He says, of course, that he hasn't been.
Let me read.
Yeah, please.
I'm listening to your show from yesterday, the 23rd.
I wanted to share some thoughts.
Firstly, Ebola is definitely occurring in the three countries.
You never said it wasn't happening here.
I just don't know if it's real that way.
Right.
It's not.
It's a different way of looking at it.
I mean, something can be happening, but the way it's presented is the hoax.
Oh, and I hope he talks about the 4,000 troops we've sent over there.
Okay.
He just says that we're wrong about that.
And secondly, I do not prescribe to the fear bowl of flights that the region generally returned to the state.
He mentions there are a couple of flights that are direct from Africa.
He wanted to correct us when I keep saying there's no flights.
No, it's not true.
There are some flights from South Africa, which I consider not flights.
But he claims there's also how people from Guinea can take over land travel to Senegal.
Senegal, there's direct flights.
Senegal?
Yeah.
Doctor who came from Guinea now as Ebola may have chosen this route.
Those of us in the international development field know about flights to and from Africa.
I would guess that 95% go through Europe or Dubai, which leaves Delta direct to South Africa via Senegal for refueling and back again the same day.
JFK to Ghana, to Ghana to South Africa and back again.
So they're jumping around.
Okay.
There are more flights from South Africa to the USA, which should not hit West Africa.
So I don't know if he's telling us we're wrong or right or just clarifying.
He just says, my point's possible for people to travel on direct flight to the U.S. from West Africa.
And I know this because I've done it.
Okay.
Okay, fine.
So he can no longer fly to New York and New Jersey without going to force quarantine?
If you read that carefully, it's only if you were a doctor.
Oh, okay.
All right.
Well, I got sucked in.
My son, he's bringing his son into the game.
Uh-oh.
My son may be moving to Senegal...
First semester abroad and his mother's very worried.
Now I have to really question myself whether he will be safe.
He's working on him.
In Senegal, which is a WHO and CDC certified Ebola free.
They bury their dead differently than they do in Liberia and Sierra Leone.
So should I believe like Adam that Ebola is a hoax or believe that it's real as I do?
But I accept that there is a little or no risk for my son in Senegal.
He's just torn.
And he says, he's always listening, still finds it funny when you guys make fun of my friends like Sylvia Matthews Burrell, head of HHS. Sylvia, the head of HHS is a buddy.
She's an amazing person and not just a one-dimensional person, as Adam suggested.
Do we even talk about her?
I think maybe once.
It must have stuck out like a sore thumb to him.
He doesn't like me.
We know the hitman doesn't like me.
That's okay.
He does not like you.
I don't know.
Whatever the case is, we found out nothing about his girlfriend.
He's in, I guess, somewhere in Africa floating around and living it up.
Well, here's the things that we know currently.
And I, of course, appreciate what the economic hitman says always.
But he's not really addressing the core issue.
The test for Ebola, by the way, is not so cut and dry as you'd think it is.
I just started reading this this morning.
The test really is not all that super conclusive.
You have to do real DNA analysis to find out if the Ebola is really in there.
And if you now look at the World Health Organization and They list the possible signs of having Ebola equal, just equal to seasonal flu.
So this is very sketchy, and now we find out through the New York Times that there has always been an Ebola vaccine.
It's been ready for testing, but it was just on the shelf because there was no market.
So, gee, now we have a market.
We certainly are now testing it on some Africans, some West Africans.
Yippee-yi-yi.
We'll see how that goes, if they die or if they live.
You know, the human rats of West Africa.
That's how the pharmaceutical industry loves to do it.
And, you know, actually I have two clips regarding this.
There were some congressional hearings.
The inspector general, this is the guy who provides oversight over different...
Well, you have an inspector general for each department within the United States government.
The apparatchik, which is huge.
Of course, we have Department of Homeland Security who have been spending all kinds of money.
We know they spend money very poorly.
We know they spend it on things that don't work.
They waste money.
Thank you.
They waste the American taxpayers' money.
And he had a scathing report over the pandemic preparedness of the department.
In short, our audit concluded that DHS mismanaged their program in three ways.
First, we found that DHS did not adequately conduct a needs assessment before purchasing protective equipment and antiviral drugs.
As a result, we could not determine the basis for DHS's decisions regarding how much or what types of pandemic supplies to purchase, store, or distribute.
As a result, DHS may have too much of some equipment and too little of others.
For example, we found that DHS has a stockpile of about 350,000 white coverall suits and 16 million surgical masks, but hasn't been able to demonstrate how either fits into their pandemic preparedness plans.
It has a significant quantity of antiviral drugs.
But again, without a full understanding of the department's needs in the event of a pandemic, we have no assurance that the quantity of drugs will be appropriate.
Second, DHS purchased much of the equipment and drugs without thinking through how these supplies would need to be replaced.
The material DHS has purchased has a finite shelf life.
For example, TSA's stock of pandemic protective equipment includes about 200,000 respirators that are beyond the five-year usability date guaranteed by the manufacturer.
In fact, the department believes that their entire stockpile of personal protective equipment will not be usable after 2015.
Likewise, the antiviral drugs DHS purchased are nearing the end of their effective life.
DHS is attempting to extend that shelf life of these drugs through an FDA testing program, but the results of that are not guaranteed.
Third, DHS did not manage its inventory of drugs or equipment.
As a result, DHS did not readily know how much protective equipment and drugs it had on hand Drugs and equipment have gone missing, and conversely, our audit has found drugs in the DHS inventory that the department thought had been destroyed.
We visited multiple sites and found drugs that were not being stored in a temperature-controlled environment.
Because DHS cannot be assured that they were properly stored, they are in the process of recalling a significant quantity of them because they may not be safe or effective.
Let's close that thing down.
Close it down, people.
Wow.
That would be a clip of the day.
No, no.
Disgusting.
It would be a clip of the day.
The reason...
I thought Ebola was over and done with.
The nurses are cured.
The doctors are cured.
Nigeria is cured.
Everyone's getting cured.
We're doing great.
There are more people...
Everyone's happy, they're all happy.
But the problem is that Ebola is testing off the charts.
The ratings are, this is, everybody wants to watch Ebola news.
Well, I've got some clips to prove it.
Let's talk about it.
Let me play my clips.
I have the fam, the first Ebola victim.
It's the nurse.
And there's a little background.
She's the one who hugged Obama just to prove, try to get this off the news cycle, even though they can't quite manage it.
It's a bonanza.
It's a ratings bonanza.
Republican.
And so, you know, so Obama decides to come forward with this.
So here's the Ebola fam and Bentley.
New this morning, the first Texas nurse infected with the Ebola virus has returned home Ebola-free.
A private jet carrying 26-year-old Nina Pham arrived at the Fort Worth Airport just before midnight Central Time.
She was being treated at the National Institutes of Health Clinical Center near Washington, D.C. Now, before she left, she visited the White House and received a hug from President Obama.
The first of the two Dallas nurses who were diagnosed, Nina Pham, was declared Ebola free.
And yesterday I was proud to welcome her to the Oval Office and give her a big hug.
I do not know how I can ever thank you everyone enough for their prayers and their expressions of concern, hope and love.
Pham says she is looking forward to being reunited with her dog Bentley.
Bentley is being held in quarantine for three weeks at an old military base near Dallas to make sure he is not infected with Ebola.
What old military base in Dallas?
I don't know.
Old military base?
What's it still in service for?
We should go take a look at it.
Yeah, old military base.
Don't give us any details.
Well, in the area, this is not anywhere near Dallas, but it's causing quite a situation.
This is the Ebola Texas Halloween.
Hmm.
A Texas man's Halloween decorations are causing some controversy.
He is poking fun at the Ebola outbreak with a house that's been decorated to appear like a hazmat scene.
Some neighbors have called the display distasteful due to the local connection to the outbreak.
The first person to be diagnosed with Ebola in the U.S. died at a hospital in Texas.
I just love Halloween and it's fun.
And what's the scariest thing on the market right now?
Unfortunately, it's Ebola.
The city of University Park, Texas, says the display is legal, even though it may be in bad taste.
Yeah, you know, I am so annoyed with Halloween in general.
First of all, it's become a license for grown people to get drunk and puke.
And I hate it.
It's disgusting.
I won't go to a Halloween party.
Because everyone's just getting drunk.
I don't like drunk people.
I don't think I've ever been to a Halloween party.
I used to always take the kids out.
We'd go trick-or-treating.
We used to have this place in Berkeley that around the corner, about three blocks away, we swear this guy's a pedophile.
Because he had this most elaborate...
I mean, if you were a kid, you could not not go in there.
It was like a haunted house, and his whole house is rigged.
Right, yeah, and you have a maze you walk through.
There's all kinds of stuff, and you'd go in there, and this guy, hey, glad to see you.
And he would have all these kids in the house.
It was like Herbert the Pervert on the, which I'm surprised he hasn't done this on this show.
Herbert the Pervert?
Yeah, Herbert the Pervert on Family Guy.
Oh, okay.
Herbert the Pervert.
The old man.
Yeah.
And anyways, it's very entertaining.
This is all very entertaining.
The whole Halloween thing.
Mickey and I like to dress up and scare kids who come up to the...
That's good.
I think that's wise.
Mickey gets a little too into it.
Kids running away, screaming.
Yeah, well, then she's done her job.
I would give her ten points for that.
She's gone up a notch.
I like that, but I do not like the parties.
And I think this is perfectly appropriate.
This is a great idea.
I even mentioned I want to have an Ebola suit as a costume.
I think it would be great.
Walking around in a hazmat suit's got to be fun.
It's too soon, man.
An Ebola patient with blood.
Actually, Jay thought this would be a good...
She used to really dress up in these elaborate costumes.
She thought it'd be great to go as an Ebola patient with blood coming out of your eyes, your ears, and your mouth.
And anal cavity.
Well, you're not going to bend over and show anyone your butt, so it doesn't make any difference there.
But the point is that you'd go into this horribly bloody person and you'd have Ebola or something scratched on your forehead.
It'd be great.
Anyway, one more clip.
This one is not important, but I want to play this clip because there's an anomaly in here.
These are the two anchors after they gave a bunch of reports on KTVU about Ebola.
And this guy, who I've never seen before, talks about how he just came in from Kansas City and people are wearing face masks.
Oh, sorry.
At the different places, and beside the point that neither one of them say this is not an airborne disease, this is dumb, there's actually a usage in here that needs comment.
That is still a serious situation.
Flying back from Kansas City, I had a stop at the airport in Dallas, and a number of people we saw wearing masks.
Really, just regular passengers wearing masks?
Yeah, going gate to gate and wearing masks.
Obviously putting it on themselves.
There's no requirement to wear masks, but it is on the minds of people still at that airport in Dallas.
Yes, as a precaution.
Yes, yes.
Wearing masks.
It's stupid.
It's stupid.
He says wearing mask.
Yeah, wearing mask.
Because he's a pronouncedicator.
Isn't it like wearing a mask?
Or wearing masks?
No, he says wearing mask.
This is that usage, like, I'm going to university.
Yeah, let me ask you something.
In hospital.
Well, okay.
This is European.
Oh, wearing, okay, I got you.
Wearing mask.
Well, that's kind of...
He says wearing mask.
Yeah, I am wearing mask.
I am with child.
With Chow's not even as bad as this.
Well, I'm sorry.
Wearing mask.
There was an English professor on one of the guest stations going on and on about how this, you know, he's at university or he's in hospital.
In hospital.
In hospital.
This sort of thing.
And he outlined why this is bad grammar.
But I never heard anyone say wearing mask.
No.
I'm sorry, just a little side thing.
I have one clip.
I'm just now annoyed that you didn't pick this up.
No, I'm sorry.
I think I imagined the S. I'm sorry, but you didn't hear Obama Bin Laden either.
It happens.
Okay, we're even.
Bill Maher.
Oh, God.
Yeah.
Well, we don't really know what the situation is here because the cat got out of the bag about a week ago, and it takes more than that time to see if you got the disease.
So it should have been quashed right away.
I thought it was.
You know, I thought America had this.
I thought there's one thing we can do.
Because when the first doctor came back, the one who survived it, we saw him get out of the ambulance.
He had the suit on.
It was like, okay, this is not the third world.
Then one guy comes here from Liberia.
One guy.
And we couldn't keep that contained because those morons in that fucking hospital in Dallas...
He got my attention now.
Sorry.
Excuse me.
I said I wouldn't get this upset.
Listen to the audience applaud him saying those morons in the fucking hospital in Dallas.
You know where this is going, don't you?
Do you know where it's going?
Everybody in the South is a dummy.
But I did.
Because, you know, they love their freedom down in Texas.
They don't like rules and regulations and telling us what to do and revenuers and the federal government.
What could go wrong?
This.
I've been told.
Really?
Okay, Mar.
Why don't you come on down to Texas, big boy?
We're going to take you out back, son.
Don't talk that way.
That's just rude.
It's very rude.
Oh, because we're...
Because we love our freedom here.
The hospitals are crap, because it's all post-harker arguments.
We love our freedom.
It's all crappy arguments that he gets his audience worked up with.
It makes no logical sense.
The guy's a master at it.
Yeah.
And he does it with passion, so that makes it okay.
Yeah.
Just wanted to say that.
He's funny sometimes.
It's fun to watch, to irritate, but you can't just...
It's strange when you live in Texas, you do kind of get that thing.
What thing?
Like, don't mess with Texas.
Texas itch?
Yeah, don't mess with Texas.
You get kind of...
Well, it is a different place.
Totally.
I like Texas.
I don't like their liquor laws.
I think this is kind of lame.
Some of them are very lame.
Oh, complete dry counties and stuff.
Oh, yeah.
It's stupid.
It's stupid.
And the rest of the state is you can drink while driving.
Well, I think that's...
Hello.
Hello.
It's part of our culture.
Yeah, you can drink beer while driving.
You can't drink hard liquor.
But you could.
Brewski.
That's no problem.
Hey, we got a lot of driving we do here.
It's boring.
Yeah, it's not enough.
You gotta entertain yourself.
John, it's been seven years, and we have a lineup of people who want to thank us.
I think we have some sacks of seven.
I can see them dangling there in front of me, so why don't we get right to it here?
I'm going to show my soul by donating to no agenda.
Imagine all the people who could do that.
Oh yeah, that'd be fab.
Yeah, on no agenda.
Yeah.
Yes, we have a few people to thank.
And this is show, what is it?
664.
And let's thank them.
These are all people that came in to help us celebrate the 7th anniversary of the No Agenda show, which is astonishing.
Sir Michael Allen in South Plainfield, New Jersey, $150.
And it's actually Sir Michael Allen Knight of the Railroad Conductors.
And you heard the homeless and drunks off the trains.
That's right.
He does a good job.
And since he's a knight, we will give him a shot at karma for his girlfriend who just got laid off.
Oh, no.
We thought karma.
All right.
Chris Daly in Beaverton, Oregon.
One, two, three, five, eight.
He's falling behind, he says, on the shows.
He's got to catch up.
We say forget it.
Yeah, just move on, people.
Skip it.
You know, we do try to do some back announcing.
Back announcing, sure.
Back announcing.
That was Guns N' Roses, everybody, with...
Kevin Beck Jr.
in...
Oh, brother.
Tunkhannock.
Tunkhannock, Pennsylvania.
Tunkhannock.
I think it's Tunkhannock?
Tunkhannock?
Tunkhannock?
I don't know.
Tunkhannock?
Tunkhannock?
One, two, three, four, five.
Nice.
Still without income, but he's got a broken back.
Oh, no.
So there's a guy.
Holy crap.
He's got no income, a broken back, and he's...
Donating to the No Agenda show to help us celebrate our 7th anniversary.
He loves us, he says.
We obviously are doing him good.
David Hazan in Brooklyn, New York, 101.50.
Dennis and Roxy Price in Pine Grove, California, 100.
Bradley Selsor in LaGrange, Kentucky, 100.
Sir Mac Tank, La Jolla, California, 99.99.
Russ Goulding in Wheeling, Illinois, 88.
Nick Ismendi in Waterford.
This is kicking off the sack of sevens for our seventh anniversary.
I'm going to read all these names.
These are assumed to be 77-77.
Yeah.
By the way, I'm going to make sure that his girlfriend, Elizabeth Hyde, gets a birthday call out.
And he wants to...
I don't know.
What does he say here?
He says we're huge fans of the show.
Good.
You'll be together for a long time.
That's what I believe.
Sex will be great.
Sir Joe of...
I don't know if we help the sex life, maybe.
Sir, you don't worry so much about Ebola.
Sir Joe of Brandwine 100, 777 is the rest.
Dr.
Java in Loveland.
He's in Wilmington, Delaware.
Loveland, Colorado, we have Dr.
Java.
Dr.
Java.
Keith Shoemaker in Jacksonville, Florida.
Andy Benz in St.
Louis, Missouri.
Okay, I just scrolled and lost my place.
That's our Andy Benz, St.
Louis, Missouri, and he has a birthday call-out for his birthday, which we'll do.
That's coming.
Okay, Joaquin Formalas.
Formalas, I would say, yeah.
Yeah, he's in Zurich, Switzerland, where all the money is.
Michael Gates, Colorado Springs, Colorado.
Robert Kane.
Hold on, Michael Gates.
20-month layaway plan will be knighted today.
Good.
Mm-hmm.
I want to say thank you for your courage.
He's humbled to take his place in Sir Michael Knight of the High Places.
Okay.
That's on there, I hope.
Michael Caine in Columbiana, Alabama.
Bradley Selsor in LaGrange, Kentucky.
Simon Reed, another birthday in New York City.
Sir Hank in Kew Gardens, New York.
Daniel Torellio, another birthday.
I didn't think the birthday list was this long.
That is.
Huh.
In Charleston, South Carolina.
Great town.
Nicholas Principe in Raleigh, North Carolina.
7777.
Kurt C. Anderson, New Hope, Minnesota.
Nuts.
Frederick Leaders in Ontario, Oregon.
Michael Kearns in Platte City, Missouri.
Greg, I want to thank all these people for joining in.
Because we've been slim on these 7777s.
Indeed.
And I didn't even push for 77.77 in the newsletter.
Gregory Worley in Evington, Virginia.
James Howard in Indianapolis, Indiana.
John Grumling in Battle Mint, Mesa, Colorado.
Great name for a town.
Marchand Zawadski.
Zawadski.
Hey, Zawadski.
Hey, what's up?
Yardville, New Jersey.
Curtis Smith in Corrigan, Texas.
Borislav Marinoff.
Bada bing, sir.
In Trabuco Canyon, California.
Sir HMFIC in Montpellier.
He's the Black Knight of the United States Army.
Yes, he is.
Zachary Gilbrek in Cordova, Tennessee.
James Murray in Huntington Beach, California.
He has a F cancer for his For all beloved cancer-stricken pets.
Yeah, we'll play that at the end.
Okay, you're going to play that for me?
No, at the end.
When we do all the general karma.
James Murray.
I have a note from somebody here.
Don't let me go past it.
James Murray in Huntington Beach, California.
I'm sorry, we just did.
John Cook in Issaquah, Washington.
Charles Anderson in Columbus, Ohio.
Veronica Roberts in Boise.
Boise, Idaho.
Christopher Dechter in Richland, Washington.
Will Prutzman in Frederick, Maryland.
Kevin Nunes in East Brunswick, New York.
Victor in St.
Petersburg, Russia.
I don't know who Victor is, but...
Spasiba.
Harvey Lee in Federal Way, Washington.
Jason Fortune in Geneva, Illinois.
Max Windham in the Woodford, Texas.
Sir Bogdan LeCendro in...
Irvine, Texas.
Sorry, it's just little letters.
Sir Charles C. Walters in Schaumburg, Illinois.
Jason Doolin in Lost Wages, Nevada.
And hang on, I left a note on the other desk.
Okay, it seems like you have a note and something else to go along with that.
And I will be filling up the time here just by speaking very slowly.
And maybe John is back now with his note.
And here he is.
I don't fall over the printer.
Oh, goodness.
The middle of the floor.
Why is the printer in the middle of the floor?
Don't ask.
Why is the printer in the middle of the floor?
You asked again.
Why is the printer in the middle of the floor?
Because that's where I put it.
All right, this is not the need to be read on the air.
What?
Well, and I won't read it.
But what he said, he sent a fireman's challenge coin from Lost Wages, Nevada.
Oh, nice.
He's apparently a fireman.
And he says, happy anniversary.
I've only been a listener for two years and I'm hoping for many more.
And he continued.
But yeah, so again, he sent two of them.
So you will get one of them.
They're huge.
I think they're too big.
Huh.
And what does it say on it?
What does it look like?
It's got a bunch of Las Vegas stuff on one side.
You know, the sign that says, Welcome to Las Vegas.
The tall guy that was on a casino, the cowboy.
And on the back, it just says a bunch of fire department stuff, including the local fire department number.
The chat room is being very helpful in answering the answer, giving the answer to my question, why the printer is on the floor.
And the best answer is, it is covering the dead cat.
I don't have cats.
Jason Doolin.
Okay, that was our 77-77 folks, and we do have kind of a couple of follow-ups, like Sir Jim of Beverly Hills, 77-66.
He says, I'm going to read this.
I propose a new donation amount of $77.66 for getting Adam's ghetto pass back.
Combining the seventh year and the 666th episode with the reinstatement of Adam's street cred is a lethal combination.
I need my ghetto pass back.
That's right.
It was removed from me.
I'm glad.
J. Cole...
What is this?
Codcini.
This has got to be what it is.
And he's in Newark, Delaware.
And he has a red thing.
Yes.
He wants to...
Okay, here we go.
Please call out Eric Hill as a douchebag.
Douchebag!
And keep up the good work.
All right.
Eric, you're on notice.
Joshua...
Eric probably doesn't even listen.
Sir Keith Brown?
Sir Keith Brown in Lago Vista, Texas.
Oh, he's a baron with this donation.
Great!
Yes, he's now a baron.
Has he taken a protectorate?
What has he done?
Oh, that's a good question.
Let me see if it's in my notes somewhere here.
Um...
Yes, he asked for something.
Baron of Lake Travis.
Right.
Well, that would be here, Lake Travis.
That's here.
He's working right under the boss.
Well, at least we have a protector.
Take him to dinner.
Joshua Dietrich in Kirkland, Washington, 6640.
I think he lives on a houseboat.
I think he is actually on Lake Travis.
On the lake.
That's the life.
Yeah.
Joshua Dietrich, Kirkland, Washington, 66-40.
That's the home of Costco.
And he's also becoming a knight.
Yes, he is.
Anonymous in Salzburg, Austria, 66-33.
He doesn't want the Austrian police after him.
Aaron Lambert, 56-78 in Olympia, Washington.
Greg Stone, Rapid City, South Dakota, 55, double nickels on the dime.
Matt Seaver, Knoxville, Tennessee, double nickels on the dime.
Ray Pingel.
Roy.
I said Ray.
Yeah, but it is Roy.
I know.
I heard myself.
It's Roy Pingel.
Sorry, Roy.
In Brooklyn, New York.
Chris Terhart in Abbotsford, B.C., 5225.
And the rest of these are $50 donations.
We thank them all.
Gus Rea in Canyon Country.
Where's Canyon Country?
California.
I don't know.
Uh, Stan Berizak.
Berizak.
Berizak.
What do you think?
Springfield, Missouri.
I think...
WJB Raps in Kirkrod, Limburg.
Kirkrada.
Oh, Kirkrada.
Yeah.
Kirkrada.
More shows, please.
Okay, we'll do another one on Thursday.
Yeah.
Chad Rich and DeBinigo in Seattle, Washington.
I wonder if he's never said anything about that gag.
Michael Towan in Hayden, Idaho.
Sir Mark Tanner, our buddy in Whittier, California.
And that concludes our great producers and donors list for show 664, our seventh anniversary.
And we thank everybody for the well wishes and all the people that gave lesser amounts by using that same donate button, which you could put any amount in.
A lot of people chose to put 77.77.
Well, thank you all very much.
I know that you are just as much a part of this community as we are, and humbled, as usual, by the turnout of support.
And, of course, we'll continue to accept Saks of Sevens on the Thursday show.
And I'm looking forward to another seven-year-age.
Does this mean we start to not like each other?
No, we have to see other shows.
We have an open show relationship.
How quickly do you think, in ideal circumstances, could you get to the point?
That's how we roll.
More specifically, your opposition to the cover story.
Created to give the impression there's an epidemic.
That's what makes us America.
You've got karma.
All right, everybody.
There you go with General Karma.
Thank you very much.
Thank you.
on October 24th.
London, Sir David Foley, Grand Duke of the United States, turns nine years old today.
Happy birthday, London.
Come on down to Texas.
We'll show you how to drink and shoot and drive trucks, huh?
Bradley Seltzer, happy birthday to his wife Karen Seltzer.
Simon Reed celebrating today.
Nick Esmendi says happy birthday to his girlfriend Elizabeth Hyde who turns 18 on Monday.
Gus Raya 29th on Monday as well.
Andy Benz celebrates on Tuesday the 28th.
Daniel Torrello, his son, turns 2 on Tuesday.
And Susan says happy birthday to her little brother David.
Happy 50 on November 3rd.
Happy birthday from all your friends here at the 7-Year-Old No Agenda Show!
Then we have Sir Keith Brown becoming Baron of Lake Travis today.
Congratulations.
And we have not one, not two, not three, but we have four knightings to do.
People, it's coming to a head.
You know, you save up long enough, you stick with the show long enough, then sure enough, you can join the...
It works for everybody.
You don't have to be a rich man or a woman.
$5 a month can get you there.
Well, that would take a while.
Well, some people spice it up from time to time, but you get the same ring, you get the same certificate, and we are very happy to bring you up onto the podium and swoop our sword at you.
So please join us.
Simon Boyd, Justin Hilton, Michael Gates, and Joshua Dietrich, all of you are now about to become members of the roundtable of the No Agenda Knights and Dames, and I hereby pronounce to Kate the...
Sir Boyd Perth of West Oz, Sir Hilton, Sir Mike Knight of the High Places, and Sir Dietrich, gentlemen, please.
For you, we have hookers and blower and boys and chardonnay, root beer and Legos, ass cream and bear fillings, porn stars and pot, mushrooms and maker's mark, bad science and perky breasts, three gations and a bucket of fried chicken, hot pants and booze, bong hits and bourbon, and mutton and mead.
And please go to noaginternation.com slash rings.
We have new rings coming in.
You talk to Eric.
Yeah, I want to mention a couple things.
Eric, when he does the little paperwork that you get a little certificate, it's actually a little, it's like a quasi-parchment thing.
It's got your actual title in, you know, like these longer titles that people request.
He gets them printed on there.
And then some people tweet them.
And I think that's a policy that everyone should undertake.
Oh, yes, yes.
You get your little ring, and you got the paperwork, and you put the ring there with maybe the sealing wax if you want, and take a photo, and then tweet it.
And I will retweet it.
I agree.
Oh, I'll retweet it too.
Yes.
I'll retweet your we-tweet.
Dude named Ben sent us a little note here.
He thinks it will be a red book.
We've heard from him before.
He thinks he has a red book prediction.
This would fall in line with the chip and pin conversion.
Of course, we're seeing lots of news reports now, and we're all getting ramped up now that the president has signed the executive order that will help the banks with their integration of the chip and pin cards.
Chip and pin.
Chip and pin.
I've written to you previously about the Target data leak.
I have a red book entry that should prove myself to also be a time traveler.
Yes, join me.
As I said in the past, I work with an on-site tech service.
Our newest push is to replace all pin pads for Walmart.
Walmart.
At least 2,500 of them nationally.
After completing Target, they had a leak within six months.
After Home Depot, it was four months.
I think the next one will be bigger and sooner.
I give it three months after completion.
My prediction is we'll see a major data breach within four to six months for Walmart.
Good enough prediction, I'd say.
Is he working at Walmart?
No, he says he works at on-site tech service.
He's a part of the integration teams that put these new terminals in place.
Walmart would be a whopper.
And it would be perfect timing, you know, a couple of months just before we have to integrate everything.
That's when the Congress can say, oh, we already have the executive order.
Let's put some money behind this.
We need to protect people.
I think that makes sense.
Well, the question is, would you want to do this before or after the election?
It has to be after.
Oh, it has to be.
I can't do it now.
Yeah, because it would reflect poorly on the administration.
You cannot do it now.
I don't think that will work at all.
Just word out there for the...
I mean, if the hackers are a bunch of Republicans, they could probably do it before the election.
It would be funny.
It appears to me that this whole climate change business has fallen apart.
So they had the climate talks in Bonn, Germany.
And, you know, they just, again, I'll read it to you here.
A concern was high at a perceived lack of urgency as United Nations climate negotiations shuffled towards a close, shuffled, towards a close in Bonn on Saturday with just 14 months left to finalize a new global pact.
This is from Agent France Presse.
The six-day meeting of senior officials in the former West German capital was meant to lay the groundwork for the annual round of ministerial-level UN talks in Lima in December.
Man, these guys get around.
Hey, where's our next meeting?
That's another reason to be on board.
Yeah.
We get a lot of free travel.
Let's go to Peru.
I've always wanted to go to Peru.
It's great.
It's a great place.
I was looking at the list of Michelin three-star restaurants.
They got two of them in Peru now.
Oh, man.
Really?
I'd love to try one of those places.
And buy some blankets while I was there and come back.
Oh, great.
Fantastic.
Nice.
I'm going to take Christina to Tokyo in March.
Okay.
I have to ask Dame Ashton if the pad's available.
Daddy-daughter trip.
Okay.
Yeah, it should be fun.
Let's see.
In turn, the Lima Forum must pave the way to a historic package nation.
They don't make any big decisions.
I think that they all know it's bullcrap now, and no one wants to be responsible.
And also all these lesser nations, the African countries certainly, are all saying, hey, send us money.
Where's our check?
Yeah, they've been wanting checks for a while.
Where's our check?
It's kind of falling apart.
It's not really working out very well.
What else do I have here?
War on Twitter.
We have this in the book.
We're still evaluating if this is a real war on Twitter.
Of course, the Queen posted her first tweet, and she was immediately trolled.
Yeah, well, if you want to call it that.
I mean, the Pope has been on Twitter forever.
Nobody's, you know, I mean, they made such a big deal out of it.
Everyone knows the Queen's not tweeting.
Well, we saw her do it.
Yeah.
It's proof.
And so she got trolled.
I mean, what if you want to call it troll?
I don't like the term.
I hate the term trolled.
It doesn't really make sense.
No, it's just, but it is a continuous trolls on Twitter, trolls on Twitter, trolls on Twitter.
There's a nonstop meme of trolls on Twitter.
I'm still thinking Twitter.
It might be targeted.
Some kind of trouble.
But as I mentioned, the Pope, I caught this little segment.
I didn't realize.
I haven't watched this for a while.
I've been watching The Real daily talk show.
I'm not familiar with the show.
The Real?
No.
I had clips of it.
One clip after another.
It's the ghetto show with the skanks.
Oh, I'm sorry.
Yeah, okay.
Yeah, I remember.
It's very entertaining.
Yes.
And I'm actually liking the show more and more as I get more and more into the skanks.
The skanks.
You're into skanks now.
They're skanks.
It should be called skanks.
Really?
I never really understood what a skank was until I started watching this show.
You just know.
It's like porn.
You see it, you know it's porn.
Is a skank always female, or can a skank be male as well?
Well, in this show, it's only females.
Okay.
I don't know.
I don't know what a male skank would be like.
But besides the point, I went back and I retroed to the view.
Now, the view has been completely redone, so it looks kind of the same, but now they're at a table, they're not sitting on a couch, they're around a table.
It's like a corny, old-fashioned talk show, you know, Washington Weekend Review or something like that.
I've seen some of this.
I do not like their new format.
I don't think it's good.
No, it's very bad.
Very bad.
They're doing like promotions and quizzes and tests and selling stuff.
It's a terrible show.
And Whoopi Goldberg is the main host now.
And she is, you can barely understand, she sounds like she's drunk all the time and she can't open her eyes.
And so she goes off on this Pope stuff.
And Rosie O'Donnell, who used to be running the show, is at the other end and she just kind of makes comments every once in a while because she knows she needs the money.
So this is an exchange that took place, which indicates to me the level of stupidity that you have to deal with with this show and why the real is a much better show.
He's been making headlines for his call to accept the gay community, which was echoed in a document drafted by the Cardinals yesterday.
The Pope...
He closed his assembly of Catholic bishops by saying God is not afraid of new things, but it seems like the Cardinals are.
Because the part about gay acceptance has been removed from the document by that.
Which I find extraordinary because, I'm sorry, as I was growing up, I was always told that the Pope was the living representation of God and he was making the call.
So basically, what are you saying, Cardinals, that the Pope don't know his stuff?
Is that what they're...
It's kind of like the president in Congress.
The president does something and Congress says, sorry, we're not going to do that.
Yeah.
Right?
Yeah.
Yeah, kind of freaky.
So what we get out of this is that Rosie O'Donnell, and I guess the rest of these women, all think that Obama is the Pope.
Yeah, exactly.
It's a one-to-one ratio.
Do they even know how our government works?
He is the Pope.
Do they even have a clue?
I'm saying no.
They think Obama's the Pope.
Rosie, I do think, has a clue, but I go back and forth on that.
But she's the one who said it!
I know.
Miss Mickey identified some things.
She said there's something going on.
There's a lot of push on NPR about gays in the church.
And she said there's something going on.
Pay attention to it.
And this is part of it.
I'm not quite sure what it is.
But she said there are people talking about changing the text of the Bible...
To make it more gay-friendly.
And I'm like, yeah, why not?
It's been rewritten so many times.
There's a bunch of Bible sites.
I recommend people check them out once in a while.
And you can look up these various passages that people like to hold signs up about.
And you can look at, in a good Bible site, they will have 20 different versions because they have 20 different Bibles.
Sure.
And they go back to old Bibles, middle-aged Bibles, new Bibles, some of the new Bibles.
They don't put a lot of the newest of the new in because they're copyrighted, which is another thing that's mind-boggling.
The newest of the new Bibles are all copywritten.
What?
Wait a minute, wait a minute.
Who has copyrighted the newest of the new Bibles?
All these new Bibles, the new American, the new blah, blah, blah Bibles.
Oh, really?
If you look at all these different Bibles, there's a bunch of them that are copyrighted.
Huh.
The newest versions, and they use all the...
They use different reference materials.
Some of them have explanatory texts.
Some of them don't.
And there's all these new Bibles.
There's been a lot.
And a lot of the most radical churches use a specific Bible that they can use to back up their sermons.
Hmm.
Yeah.
Okay.
Well, that's interesting.
Yeah, it's always fascinated me.
Okay.
Takes a lot of work.
Nobody's going to do a new translation of the Bible and leave it uncopyrighted, that's for sure.
Okay, I can understand that.
There's a lot of work, too.
Yes.
Holy moly, re-transcribe, re-write the Bible.
I think it's a good idea.
I think you should totally do that.
Make it more acceptable.
Well, you know, you're not going to read it anyway, so what difference is that?
I have read the Bible.
You're not going to read the gay Bible.
What do you mean?
I wrote it.
Hello.
Hello.
Hey, it's Sunday.
It's Sunday, John.
You know what that means?
iPhone's my phone.
The way I see it, the only good phone's a landline, and the phone should be made out of Bakelite.
Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey.
There's something going on.
This is tech news is what this is.
Is there?
This is tech news.
Yeah, no, I know tech news.
That's the intro to tech news.
Yeah, you got any tech news?
You got anything on phones?
No, there's no phones out that I know of.
Oh, come on.
There's got to be a new phone somewhere.
I'm sure we can talk about it.
I think the iPhone 6 is the newest phone, and apparently there's a new phone ad.
There's a new very funny Android ad that's floating around.
And by the way, I think the new ads for Apple, not good.
I have not seen them.
What are they?
What are the essence?
Steve would never approve this ad.
What is the essence of the ad?
I don't know.
I can't tell.
Buy Apple.
You don't think they'd put an Apple Store ad at one of these days?
Oh, come buy the Apple Store.
We've got a million items.
All for sale.
And no, I've never seen an Apple Store ad.
I think they should start doing that.
Well, here's...
I got no...
You got no tech news.
Hmm.
No.
I do have...
Can I do some tech news?
Yeah, you can, but I want to say that when you come out of this, go to the war on chicken news, I guess.
Oh, yes.
Oh, okay.
Let me rack it up.
All right.
I'm racked up.
Good to go.
All right.
Go on with your tech news.
I'll commentary.
Yes.
Oh, it'll be just like that show.
I'll read the news and you comment on it.
Are you doing that show today?
Are you doing tweet today?
No.
Why not?
I don't know.
Oh, all right.
They probably have some important people on and they don't need me.
Ah, there you go.
According to sources, the computer network within the executive office of the president has been down for almost a week.
Staff throughout various components still lack basic access to their files, although apparently they now can access email and the internet.
The White House is not commenting.
No, that's because we have the new CTO and the other guys that are running the smart guys that are running the...
I don't know.
That's an issue.
I would think.
That's a big issue.
The White House thing shouldn't be down for more than, you know, an hour.
Why down at all?
There's no reason for it to be down.
Right, it should never be down.
No reason to be down at all.
We've been having X-flares and there's this big...
Big sunspot that is just building up and won't go away.
Have you been following this at all?
Not at all.
It's kind of cool.
It's going to blow?
Eventually, of course it'll blow.
We don't know when, but it seems like it's really kind of bubbling, getting ready to go.
And if it really goes in our direction, it would be a fabulous one.
It could blow out a lot of stuff.
It could, yeah.
I have two of those Chinese 70-centimeter, 2-meter handhelds in a Faraday bag.
Why?
Do you get blowed up by the flare coming through?
Blow it right up?
Not even running?
Not even hooked to anything?
Just go right through your house and hit that sucker?
I don't know.
Could.
I don't know.
I don't know.
You can wrap it in aluminum foil.
That would do the trick.
Well, it's a Faraday bag, which is an aluminum bag.
Yeah.
You don't need the bag.
You can just get some aluminum foil, Kaiser aluminum, pull it out and rip a piece off and wrap it in that.
That's the same thing.
You spent money for a Faraday bag.
No, I did not.
It's a bag that is a promotional item.
I didn't spend any money on it.
What are you getting on my case, man?
I think people should be using aluminum foil more.
I'm trying to do...
Well, no, I agree with that.
People just, you know, people...
And what is aluminum foil actually for?
When I met Mickey, here's a question for you.
You can answer this.
This is part of tech news.
I find aluminum usage to be part of technology.
I believe I'm a big user of aluminum foil, and I believe I have the answer to whatever question you're going to ask.
Okay.
A two-parter.
One, what is the primary use for aluminum foil?
And two, should aluminum foil be used to keep things fresh in the refrigerator?
Which is, when I met Mickey, she did not use a plastic bag.
She wrapped everything in aluminum foil.
And I found that to be interesting.
And personally, I did not believe it was effective.
Dr.
Dvorak, please, your answer.
Well, aluminum foil is usually used in the cooking process as an underlying thing you can put stuff on top of, or it can be used as a tent for various roasts.
Why, why, why, why?
You would tent a turkey, for example.
You put an aluminum foil tent, because it doesn't melt in the oven.
It's a high-temperature device, and it cools off really fast.
Right.
Just explain.
Why do you put it underneath something?
Well, I made a toasted cheese sandwich the other night.
I put the sandwich...
I don't kind of just get out and bring pieces of gear out.
Just put down a piece of aluminum foil, put the bread down, turn on the broiler, and there's a sandwich there on top of the aluminum foil.
It doesn't...
I don't want to dirty a dish.
And you don't have to...
Do you have to flip it over?
What, a toasted cheese sandwich?
Yeah, do you only need one side?
No, this is the one side, open side with the cheese on top.
Ah, cheese on top.
What kind of cheese?
If I do a regular toasted cheese sandwich, I'll fry it.
What kind of cheese?
Ooh!
Ooh.
Usually in olive oil.
That would be a grilled cheese.
Yeah, that's a grilled cheese.
That's right.
Exactly.
Okay.
It's not really grilled.
It's fried.
Grilled would be outside on a grill.
Yes.
Or, you know, you put it over the fire and it would burn the sandwich to a crisp.
Talk about the tenting.
The tenting.
Using the foil for tenting.
What is the purpose of the tenting?
So it keeps, to retain a little bit of moisture so the turkey doesn't dry out too much during a part of the cooking process.
It's optional.
I mean, I do it.
You can also have the same effect by basting the turkey a lot, but it's really, you know, tenting.
And some people use an aluminum cooking thing, the disposable ones, to cook the turkey, and then you put a tent over it and you got to, you know, cook, it steams itself a little more.
And now, insofar as the second part of the question, which is the, yes, it is a good sealer.
It works on cheese and other, it depends.
I mean, it's an old-fashioned, it's a very old-fashioned way of doing it.
Before saran wrap and all these other plastic goods, that's what everybody used.
They all used aluminum foil for what you just described, and it does work.
And do you feel that it is better than plastic?
No, I think plastic is the best.
The plastic, you know, the thin sheets of plastic, the saran wrap, or whatever wrap you want to use, they're all slightly different.
There's a number of different plastics used for these things.
Some breathe a little more, and so you don't have less chance of something rotting in there.
But I think the plastic's better.
But I still occasionally use aluminum foil if it's just convenient.
Well, I find aluminum foil...
And aluminum foil can be reused over and over.
Generally speaking, plastic, once you stretch it around something, you unstretch it and it gets all floppy.
You can't stretch it again and it doesn't fit right.
So you have to use a new piece.
I find aluminum foil to be good for two things outside of these uses.
One, in a pinch, you can grab a toilet paper roll, cut a hole about the size of a nickel, Near one end of the roll and then you make a little cup, a little bowl of a little piece of...
Aluminum foil.
Put it in there with your thumb, and you get a toothpick, and you poke, or a pin is even better, poke little tiny holes in it.
You may want to tape down the edges so it's not loose, and you have an instant marijuana pipe in a pinch.
Yeah, yeah, I can see that.
That's very handy, and of course I use it as a hat.
Yeah, no, I was going to say it's just a half.
That'd be your two uses, yes.
And then to wrap up our tech news here, the head of the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office has said, he said this on Thursday, the agency is giving up on their plans to establish rules Yeah, there you go.
When it takes up legislation aimed at so-called patent trolls.
This was Deputy Director Michelle Lee was recently nominated to the agency to do nothing, apparently.
Yeah, that would be her job.
And so I do not like the name patent troll.
I find it very offensive to patent holders.
I am the first one to say the patent process does not work, but it used to work.
It used to have a...
It certainly seemed to be good or it was a good idea.
Well, the day they allowed software to be patented, it was the day it went downhill.
It swamped the system.
It made it impossible for real patents to really get a good look.
It swamped the system.
It ruined everything.
And before it happened, and I remember when it happened, it was in, I believe, the early 80s, late 70s.
I'm sorry.
Go on.
I'm listening.
Well, I'm just saying, when it happened, everyone said, well, you can't patent software.
This is just ideas.
It's like patenting 2 plus 2 equals 4.
Oh, you can't do this.
This is patented.
You can't have 4.
Uh-uh.
2 plus 2 has to be something else.
But it is 4.
Patented it.
I feel patenting software is like patenting a poem.
Yeah.
No, it used to be covered the same way as a copyright.
Yeah.
That's what it should be.
It used to be copyright software.
And I think that's valid copywriting software.
But even then, routines and simple...
I mean, to what degree?
Then you get into almost like what sample of a copyrighted piece of code...
Well, the idea originally was copyright to prevent people from just lifting code and using it.
But that's how...
Wait, let me finish.
If I had an algorithm that made point A move to point B, and I wrote it in C++... You could look at the algorithm and say, oh, okay, I can't use this because it's copyrighted, but I'll just rewrite it in JavaScript.
I think that's legit.
Well, not only that, the whole point...
You learn code by copying it.
And we're really talking about scripting in this case, not compiled code.
But that's how you learn.
That's how the best programs are built.
Hey, oh, this guy wrote this code.
This is fantastic.
Let me plop that in and it works.
Have you documented in SimSalaBin?
It's become very complicated.
That's why I like the...
The whole thing, the patents were originally designed to protect the little guy.
Today's patenting of software code does just the opposite.
It's only to protect the big companies.
The little guy has been thrown out of the bus.
Not even under it.
The bus was driving and just threw through the guy out on the pavement.
Out.
The little guy.
Support your independent software developers, people.
That is the message here.
And that wraps up Tech News, everybody.
The only good phone's a landline, and the phone should be made out of Bakelite.
The War on Chicken.
We'll be right back.
I have one story.
It's the clip, Egg News.
I'm sorry.
Hold on a second.
I was not prepared.
Yes, here we go.
Several states are unhappy with California's new law concerning the sale of eggs.
Starting in January, the state will ban the sale of eggs that are laid by hens kept in small cages.
The law requires out-of-state sellers to comply with the new standards.
Yesterday, six states filed an appeal of a federal judge's ruling upholding the ban.
And those states say the law will cost their egg farmers hundreds of millions of dollars.
Wait a minute.
Explain this to me.
What's going on here?
Well, you know, most eggs that you buy, if you buy cheap eggs, you don't buy from a little guy nearby.
I'm sorry, we buy our eggs exclusively from Farmer Chris at the Austin Farmer's Market.
Yeah, that's the way to go.
Yeah.
But most eggs, if you go to Costco and you buy their eggs, you get like 18 eggs for a buck.
You know, and it's these eggs that are produced by these eggs.
I wouldn't buy those.
Most people buy them.
Because they don't know the difference.
And it's just a shame, but they don't know the difference.
Especially people...
I don't understand how anyone in a rural community where you have...
Like you say, this farmer guy.
That's not farmer guy.
Farmer Chris.
He listens to the show.
Farmer Chris.
He has eggs.
He has chickens.
If you're in any rural area of the United States, if you drive around, you'll find eggs for sale because people have a lot of chickens.
And when chickens eat too many eggs for people, they end up selling them.
And that's the eggs you want because they have actual flavor.
But most people buy the Costco eggs and these cheap eggs.
They buy the cheapest egg, best price.
And that's what they use.
And those eggs always come from these facilities that have a chicken literally imprisoned in a small little cage that the chicken can't even stand up in.
And they cut their beaks off so they don't have to worry about them pecking themselves or anything.
So they've got no beaks.
And then they change the lights to go on and off and on and off throughout the day so the chickens think it's a day.
It's come and gone.
And then they lay an egg a day.
For about a year, and then they take the chickens out and butcher them because they don't want unproductive chickens.
And that's the way most eggs are produced in this country.
And that's what California, somewhere along the line, got a hair up their ass about this and said, no more of this.
And now it's going to be a huge, I don't know if it's because they hate eggs or they don't want eggs.
I don't know what the rationale for this is.
I'm sure it was a do-gooder behind it, but I'm not sure.
Well, so it's a good thing, is we're trying to educate people not to eat shit.
Yeah, yeah, no, I think it's a good thing.
Yeah, that's good.
Boy, do I taste the difference.
Oh no, it's good egg or real egg.
You know, yard egg or whatever you want to call these eggs that are, these chickens lay them all over the place.
The white actually tastes better than the yolk from one of these farmed chickens in their little cage.
Oh, absolutely.
Sticks are tasteless.
I won't even eat one.
I just won't eat one.
I'm not interested.
And the yolk is like a really light yellow.
You're making me sick just thinking of stop.
Yeah.
Stop.
Seriously.
Oh, man.
They don't even hold up in the pan.
They just make a big giant.
Oh, and the yolk breaks really easily.
There's no structure to it.
No strength.
I just got bile in my throat.
God.
No, it's Farmer Chris's eggs or nothing.
If you're ever in Austin on a Saturday, go to Republic Square, the farmer's market.
Find Farmer Chris.
Tall, blonde, surfer dude.
You can't miss him.
With eggs, that's pretty obvious.
Surfer dude, eggs.
And give him an in the morning.
Yeah, always give an in the morning.
And you'll get a big, big smile back.
Now I have one clip of bad acting.
Oh nice!
And this is actually a clip that was on CIS, the show where this, you know, the original one of these detective stories that has all new people that everyone's gone to.
They have the blackface guy playing one of the characters.
I'd like to set this up for a second.
We haven't done this in a while, and throughout the seven-year history of the show, we have done this from time to time, where when you listen to acting and you don't have the visual, that's when you really hear the bad acting.
Yeah, this is much better visually.
The woman actress, she looks like she can act, but when you just listen to her, she's doing a bit where she says something.
She's being interrogated for a crime, and her bit is to go kind of like she says something, goes, yeah, yeah, yeah, something screwy, and it makes for an interesting dialogue.
But this is about, turns out, the woman is a Wiccan, And so they're either slamming the Wiccans or, you know, the female witch.
And she's a witch, and there's a big, I guess, a coven in some school.
And they go on about, well, it's not important to us what you believe in.
I don't even know what that means.
But it's a bunch of pagans, and there's a back and forth.
And I just thought this was a good case of bad acting and kind of, like, snide writing.
This is just dandy.
You actually think I heard Turk nonsense?
Really?
Yeah.
You were sleeping with a student who's now dead, murdered in your school.
I was not sleeping with Turk, my gosh!
We have your fingerprints on the inside of his car windows and your DNA on his condom from the backseat.
Do I need to go on?
Turk was 18.
He was perfectly legal.
What we had was real.
Did your husband find it real?
Your marriage, your job, you had a lot to lose.
Mr.
Russell...
Every day I play pretend.
I pretend that pelican sports matter.
I pretend not to resent the fact that I'm a failed interior decorator.
But mostly, I pretend to not know that my husband's having a weekly tryst with a stripper named Tangerine.
Now, I did not kill Turk, but I can tell you this.
I would kill to bring him back.
Did you know that Turk's blood was removed from his body after he was murdered?
And that suggests a Wiccan ritual or spell, and that suggests you.
Kali.
On you people's secret shovel, you sure dig deep.
The Coven said that we'd be persecuted.
No, slow down.
I don't care who or what you worship.
I just care about the truth.
I didn't kill Turk.
You said that the killer took Turk's blood.
Yes, that's right.
Her high priest thought that my relationship with Turk was a threat to the coven.
Your high priest?
Ed.
Ed Lusk?
The janitor?
Make it stop!
And the writer also needs to be shot.
A stripper named Tangerine?
A stripper named Tangerine?
What?
No.
No.
This show is still on the air, seriously?
Yeah.
It's astonishing.
This is horrible.
This is horrible crap.
A stripper named Tangerine.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I got some bad acting for you.
Bad acting by Hillary Clinton.
Don't let anybody tell you that, you know, it's corporations and businesses that create jobs.
Yeah.
You know, that old theory, trickle-down economics.
That's right.
That has been tried.
That has failed.
Mm-hmm.
It has failed rather spectacularly.
Oh, yes.
Ha, ha, ha.
You know, one of the things my husband says when people say, well, you know, what did you bring to Washington?
He said, well, I brought arithmetic.
Ha, ha.
Yeah.
Companies don't create jobs.
Wow!
Really?
Okay.
She's now on the Elizabeth Warren train?
Well, you have to assume that she has her people watching Elizabeth Warren closely.
And so they're saying, what is working for Elizabeth Warren?
We have to use some of the shtick that Warren's dreaming up.
And so they're doing it.
I think this will look more alike than different at the time that they throw their hats into the ring.
I agree.
Or their bonnets or their babushkas.
Whatever.
Babushkas.
Hey, John, thanks for seven years.
Seven years.
I want to thank the listeners for seven years.
Well, I'm just thanking you first.
Then I'm going to thank you.
I appreciate that.
I thank you for seven years.
But the listeners, if it wasn't for them, if it wasn't for our producers, we wouldn't be here doing the seventh anniversary show.
Nope.
Not at all.
So we must be doing something people like.
Yes.
And one day we'll figure it out and really get big.
Yeah.
Onward to the next seven.
Happy to do it with y'all.
And we'll continue the seventh anniversary party on the Thursday show because we do have a lot of people that came in after the midnight deadline.
And so we'll thank them on Thursday and we hope a few more join in.
Indeed we will.
Here in self-imposed quarantine in FEMA Region 6, celebrating the seventh.
Good morning, everybody.
I'm Adam Curry.
And from northern Silicon Valley, where I'm in a hazmat suit as I do the show, I'm John C. Dvorak.
We'll be back on Thursday right here on No Agenda.
It was worth it.
Boo-chaka-laka!
Boo-chaka-laka!
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