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	Oh, really?
	You really work for CBS? Adam Curry, John C. Devorak.
	It's Thursday, October 9th, 2004.
	Time for your Gitmo Nation media assassination episode 659-er.
	This is no agenda.
	Running a solid 98.6 degrees here in FEMA Region 6 in the indispensable nation.
	From the capital of the Drone Star State in the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley, where it's foggy and cold, and there's turkeys everywhere, I'm John C. Devorak.
	Okay, we've had better openings.
	I stumbled.
	You had a non-sequitur?
	It's typical.
	I had turkeys everywhere.
	Tell me, what was this?
	What happened with your turkeys?
	So I'm in the bathroom.
	Doing what?
	I'm hearing...
	Are you brushing your teeth?
	Excuse me?
	Are you brushing your teeth?
	No, I was in the bathroom relieving my urinal distress.
	Yes, okay.
	It's in the DSM. Urinal distress.
	So I'm in there, and I'm hearing what sounds like a dog squealing, followed by a whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop.
	And there's a dog...
	And I'm thinking to myself, what is this dog?
	It must be a neighbor's dog.
	None of my dogs have this sound.
	But then there's this little bird sound that comes afterwards.
	I say, oh my god, one of the mockingbirds has picked up, because they'll pick up anything.
	I had a mockingbird once that sounded like one of those rainbirds.
	Ch-ch-ch-ch.
	Right.
	They can do all kinds of sounds.
	They can make almost any sound.
	And they do car alarms.
	They do everything.
	So I figured this thing had picked up a dog whining, a squealing dog, and then added some notes to it at the end.
	And I look, and out of the corner of my eye, I look out the window, and on the roof, I see a turkey.
	I said, oh my god, there's a turkey on the roof.
	And then there was another one.
	There was a total of seven turkeys on the roof.
	And then they all jumped off the roof to the neighbor's roof.
	There's a roost of turkey.
	They're roosting somewhere around the other side of this hill.
	And they're all over town.
	They're all over the East Bay.
	There's turkeys.
	They fly across the freeway.
	They're a nuisance.
	And they've settled in in the Bay Area.
	I know that friends of mine in San Ramon have turkeys all over the place, and they're all over the place.
	There was a beautiful tom, by the way, that jumped off the roof, and he looked delicious.
	I need to find someone who can catch it and kill it and make it ready for you.
	Well, I can catch it.
	I mean, I can catch one of these birds, I'm sure.
	By the way, I'd like everyone to know that to know you have not gone back in time, it's 2014.
	Apparently, I said 2004.
	You did?
	Yeah.
	Oh, that's cute.
	That's not cute.
	I know at first you said November.
	I don't know what you're thinking there.
	Well, I know what I'm suffering from.
	2004.
	Yeah, 2004-itis.
	No, no.
	I was looking through my medical journal, as I do often on a Wednesday night, with Ms.
	Mickey.
	We'd sit on the couch together and browse the medical journals.
	Oh, look.
	And there is a word.
	Of course, you know I have the Tourette's Syndrome.
	But there is a politically correct term for what I have.
	Oh!
	Neurodiversity.
	This reminds me, I was in Los Angeles this week and there was a lot of discussion on the talk radio, especially in L.A., about the idea, because of a New York Times editorial, to call pedophilia a...
	A disorder that's coverable by the Veterans...
	Affordable Care Act?
	By Obamacare?
	No, the Americans with Disability Act.
	Wow.
	Oh, because you're disabled because you're a pedophile.
	Yeah.
	Well, I've always said that child abuse...
	You have to be very careful.
	You've got pedophilia and you have child abuse.
	Which is often people who were abused as a child.
	First and foremost, it is a health issue.
	Yeah.
	Oh, that was the yeah guy.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	But it's never viewed as such.
	It's always, oh, cut his balls off, throw him in jail!
	But it's a perpetuating thing that goes from generation to generation.
	Well, there's that, and everyone was up in arms because there were people calling there, but does that mean that I have to hire, the guy comes in, what's your, you know, you have a disability.
	American with disabilities, you have to.
	The guy, somebody comes in and says that, he's a pedophile, and then you have to hire him.
	Exactly.
	Oh, no.
	I thought there was amusement in the whole listening to this distractive argument.
	It's just the local Angelenos when they're not focusing on celebrities.
	They're focusing on something like that.
	It's not at all constructive at all.
	Okay, so maybe I just dive into this.
	We've got a lot of ground to cover today, I feel.
	And I'm always looking...
	I think we are always looking to find what the strategy is.
	You would say, to what end?
	Where is this going?
	What is this all about?
	Whose game plan are we...
	Running on right now.
	Right.
	Which one are we executing and why?
	Right.
	And the why part's the hardest.
	You know, we come up with a lot of good analysis of what is really going on, but often we can't figure out why or we think we can figure it out.
	We could be wrong almost all the time if they're really good at it, whoever they are.
	Well, something came out.
	Let's see.
	Why can't I open this?
	That's interesting.
	Application preview can't be opened.
	Well, why not?
	That is just hilarious.
	Okay.
	I've got it here.
	I just want to read this.
	This will flow into everything you've got.
	The Foreign Policy...
	What are these guys?
	The FPI. Foreign Policy Institute.
	No, I think it's Foreign Policy Initiative is what it's called, actually.
	Oh, okay.
	But it is FPI, yeah.
	The Foreign Policy Initiative.
	They came out with their foreign policy document.
	Now, Foreign Policy Initiative is...
	These are the neocons.
	This is on board.
	We have Bill Kristol in the board of directors.
	And, of course, our buddy Robert Kagan is also in this outfit.
	Well, not Fred.
	I don't think Fred is in this one.
	Let me see.
	I have...
	If you take a quick look...
	Or Kimberly.
	No, they're in...
	She's in the War and Peace Institute, whatever that's called.
	The analysis of war.
	They gotta spread out.
	They can't all be in one group.
	Yeah.
	No, I think it's...
	I don't know.
	Fred's not in there.
	This is Robert.
	But he's annoying enough.
	And I was reading through this...
	In the executive summary, something hit me just right between the eyes, and I said, oh my goodness, where have I heard this before?
	So this is the executive summary, the importance of American leadership.
	And this is a think tank that tries to influence policy based upon, foreign policy, of course, is their main initiative.
	And to influence American foreign policy for their constituents.
	And of course, if you look at who's a member of FPI, this is all military-industrial complex, pretty much.
	The importance of American leadership.
	This is the first paragraph, the first sentence of the first paragraph in the executive summary of this document.
	And it says in big bold letters, the United States remains the world's indispensable nation.
	Oh.
	And I said to myself, Self, where did I hear this?
	Did I hear this on the No Agenda show?
	I think everybody applauds the efforts that you've made and the size of the coalition that has been assembled.
	But most of them are contributing money or training or policing the borders.
	Not getting particularly close to the...
	To the contact.
	It looks like, once again, we are leading the operation.
	We are carrying most of the West.
	Steve, that's always the case.
	That's always the case.
	America leads.
	We are the indispensable nation.
	Okay, so your conclusion, of course, is that Obama is completely and obviously under the control of the neocons, which is your assertion.
	I would say your assertion first, before I ever thought so, When they brought Kerry in and Kerry was sounding like a neocon every time he turned around.
	Yes.
	And let me follow that up.
	This is just more further proof because now he's using the lingo.
	Let me follow up.
	Well, not just the lingo.
	The Indispensable Nation.
	I've never heard this before.
	I've never heard this.
	This is brand new.
	He says this last week.
	It was Sunday is when we had it.
	So, yeah, it was about last week.
	And it's the first, you know, just imagine, you get something on his desk.
	Oh, what is this?
	Indispensable Nation.
	I should remember that one.
	Or, it's just, you know, in the prompter.
	I don't think that was a prompter item because he was stammering too much during that interview.
	But this has been embedded in his brain, this indispensable nation, which I have heard nowhere else.
	So the first paragraph is this indispensable nation, vital to global peace, security and stability and crucial to protecting and advancing America's ideals and principles, America cannot afford to turn its back on its international commitments and should maintain robust engagement in the world, diplomatic, military, and economic to promote universal principles of democracy, oppose the policies of authoritarian regimes, and stand against human rights abuses across the globe.
	Now, paragraph number two of the executive summary from the Foreign Policy Initiative.
	To uphold this engagement, the United States should ensure that its defense budget is commensurate to the task of global leadership.
	Unfortunately, current defense spending levels do not meet the federal government's constitutional requirement to provide for the common defense of the nation.
	Now, in bolded letters, in bold letters, the Obama administration and Congress should work together to repeal defense cuts under the Budget Control Act, restore the military's required readiness and force size, and maintain robust intelligence programs.
	And if you go down, and I'm keeping this document open on my desktop 24-7 now because it has, for every country, it's got a mission for Afghanistan, China, Iran, Israel, Latin America, North Korea, Russia.
	We go down to the point, and it's only about a military-industrial complex.
	The United States should maintain a robust defense budget that would enable it to uphold the system of international peace and prosperity, prevent major foreign aggression, and keep open the flow of global trade and commerce.
	Even if the recent budget cuts were reversed, defense spending would still amount to just 4%, etc., etc.
	Under the law, called the Budget Control Act of 2011, our armed forces are suffering.
	Now, listen to the words here.
	Our armed forces are suffering catastrophic cuts.
	The law included both $487 billion in cuts to defense spending, and after the failure of a bipartisan deficit committee reached a budget deal, an additional $500 million in sequestration cuts.
	So here's...
	That's what it's all about.
	Our military is not staffed properly, but in order to be the indispensable nation.
	And President Obama goes down to the Pentagon yesterday...
	And he sits down with a very interesting, big, long table, and we had Chuck Hagel to his right, for the viewers to his left, the Secretary of Defense, and to his right, for the viewers, for him left, we had the leprechaun, General Dempsey, Joint Chief Big Kahuna Dempsey.
	Dempsey?
	Had a jacket on over his military garb, so he had no medals, no Bakelite name tag, just like a business guy, which is abnormal for him.
	And it was over his uniform.
	And the president is saying, oh, you know, usually we have these in the Oval Office, but I thought it'd come down here, you know, check everything out, see how we're doing against that ISIS thing and the Ebola's.
	And then after two minutes, which is only a press moment, that's what the whole thing was, it's not a meeting, it's a bunch of people sitting there looking goofy, and every single time the president would say something, You could see Dempsey looking at him with his big bug eyes going, ooh, what?
	They're very worried about what he's saying.
	But here it comes!
	Finally, we had a chance to talk briefly about defense budget and reforms.
	We have done some enormous work, and I want to thank everybody sitting around this table to continue to make our forces...
	Leaner, meaner, more effective.
	When he said leaner and meaner, Dempsey looked at him with this, no, not leaner, more.
	What are you talking about?
	Leaner.
	More tailored to the particular challenges that we're going to face in the 21st century.
	But we also have to make sure that Congress is working with us to avoid...
	For example, some of the Ducronian cuts that are called for in sequestration.
	And to make sure that if we're asking this much of our armed forces, that they've got the equipment and the technology that's necessary for them to be able to succeed at their mission.
	And that we're supporting their families at a time when, even after ending one war and winding down another, They continue to have enormous demands placed on them each and every day.
	So taking these two things together and taking advantage of this, I guess we'll just call it multiple crises, to go straight to the sequestration cuts, which is paragraph number two of the Foreign Policy Initiative's executive summary, summary, I'm going to say that these guys are writing the plan.
	Hmm.
	Hmm.
	Well, I'm at their website.
	It's possible.
	It's possible that these guys are writing the plan.
	Why not?
	Well, let's look at ISIS, Iraq, and Syria.
	It says ISIS in the plan, interestingly.
	The rising power of ISIS in Iraq and Syria directly threatens the United States.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	Now, having said that, in this report, do they explain how?
	Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, the group's leader, has publicly stated that ISIS seeks direct confrontation with the United States and Secretary of Defense Chuck Hagel Describes ISIS as a force that is sophisticated,
	dynamic, strong, organized, and well-financed.
	Hold on a second.
	So the Foreign Policy Institute couldn't say that.
	So they found...
	Here's the meaning.
	Hey, these boneheads, we've got to present them a little more strongly.
	Well, let's just say that they're forceful and advanced and they're modern and all this.
	No, we can't say that.
	That's bullcrap.
	We know it's not true.
	We can't say that.
	Can we find some jerk that said that and we'll just quote him?
	Ah, let's ask the yeah guy if this is a good idea.
	The phone needs to be ringing.
	I'm sorry.
	We'll call him later.
	Yes, please.
	To address this threat, the United States should adopt a three-pronged approach.
	Now, I have not heard this laid out specifically, but you can just wait for it.
	But it's close.
	Number one, in the three-prong approach, we have defeat and destroy ISIS as an organization.
	Okay, well that's not doable.
	Then we have number two, restore stability to Iraq.
	Oh, that's a winner.
	And number three, bring about a post-Assad Syria that is free of terror.
	So there we have, again...
	They always slip that in as number three.
	And Wesley Clark was on the BBC. Why don't you be honest about it?
	We've got to get rid of Assad.
	Then leave it at that.
	They don't want to say those exact words, I believe, because...
	Because the Russians will perk up.
	Because Russian intelligence agencies, they're looking at this stuff and they're saying, well, it's not about us.
	That's bullcrap.
	These guys are making the fine-tooth comb and saying to themselves, who do the Americans think they're kidding with this?
	Well, I think it's different.
	Now, of course, none of the people, certainly not the United States of Gitmo Nation, give a rat's ass.
	We don't care at all about whatever they're saying.
	No one's really listening.
	So this is to convince policymakers in Washington.
	That's all that it's about.
	This little circle jerk.
	Be damned.
	The public be damned.
	In fact, the public doesn't know half of this stuff.
	Right.
	Our listeners do.
	So what the Russians need is they need a soundbite of someone saying, you know, screw the Russians.
	No one's going to give that to them.
	No one's going to give that to them.
	So they talk around it.
	Wesley Clark, who was on the BBC, I caught him last night on BBC World, he had the best way of saying, you just got to love a guy who knows how to talk.
	This is about the force going in, do we have what it takes, and what is it really all about?
	The retired General Wesley Clark, who was once NATO's supreme allied commander for Europe, told us he is confident America and its allies will succeed against the militants.
	If you're ISIS, you can react quickly, you can move here and there, and you can do a quick strike, but you don't have staying power.
	If you're NATO, Turkey, the United States, Britain, it may take you longer to get in there, it may take longer to train the coalition, but you've got staying power.
	And as Vladimir Putin is finding out once, or as Gaddafi found out, once you...
	Interesting that he's...
	Oops!
	Putin, Gaddafi, oops, oops!
	Or as Gaddafi found out, once you get the United States and Britain and NATO engaged in something, we don't let go of it.
	And so we can handle this if we put the right package together.
	We have to have a political outcome in this case.
	That's the ticket.
	Just call it a political outcome.
	Instead of killing people like Gaddafi, and by the way, Vlad, I think that was a shot across the bow.
	You know, political solution.
	So let's look at Russia in the FBI document.
	There's no reason in that sentence to mention Putin unless he was on his mind because it's all about Putin.
	Yeah, it is.
	Let's look at the Russian paragraph in the executive summary.
	Of the foreign policy initiatives strategy.
	Russia's actions in Ukraine and around the world profoundly undermine regional and global stability and reflect efforts by the Kremlin to dominate its neighbors.
	Russia's illegal annexation of Crimea in March 2004, like its, and this is a good one, 2008 invasion of Georgia, I'm sorry, Georgia attacked Russia?
	That has been admitted?
	But okay, we'll rewrite history, FPI. Like its 2008 invasion of Georgia, demonstrates Moscow's willingness to use force in order to expand its sphere of influence, unlike America.
	By the way, just to stop you, this is probably the most annoying thing that we run across on this show over and over and over again.
	There's a meme that the Russians attacked Georgia and it's been disproven.
	And admitted.
	Even admitted.
	And admitted.
	And so what?
	Who cares?
	Shut up.
	It's like the Syrian government gassed the use of chemicals.
	That's right.
	And that's been disproven over and over again.
	Shut up.
	Shut up.
	It's just...
	Yeah, shut up.
	Russia is also actively challenging the role of the United States in Asia, Latin America, and the Middle East, and continues to oppress its own people.
	That's funny, by the way.
	The Russian people love it!
	They love Putin!
	I think it was Sir Gene who told me, if the American government takes away people's iPhones, Americans are all in an uproar and will protest in the streets.
	And if you take away the iPhones from the Russians, they get behind their leader and tell them to go kick America's ass.
	The Russians still do, from what I understand, they like the idea of a single powerful leader.
	They really do.
	But there's history.
	Yes.
	And we have one that's fake.
	Whatever.
	The United States should oppose such aggression and make tangible commitments to the defense of our allies in Eastern Europe in order to deter further Russian expansionism.
	But let's read this again.
	Russia is actively challenging the role of the United States in Asia.
	I'm sure they mean Japan and China, pretty much, and North Korea.
	Latin America and the Middle East.
	It's obvious that most of what we're doing here is against Russia.
	Everything that is going on is to push Russia off the island.
	And China.
	Well, there's something.
	We'll get to that later.
	I have some China stuff.
	Kagan!
	So thank you, Kagan.
	Thank you for the document.
	We'll keep a close eye on it.
	You want to know anything about any other country?
	Anything?
	It's all in here.
	China.
	China.
	China's continued military buildup, fueled by its increasingly assertive foreign policy and years of rapid growth of its military budget, has raised concerns throughout the Asia Pacific region and the world.
	Washington must meet its commitments to allies and partners in the Asia Pacific and support Chinese dissidents and ethnic and religious minorities in their continuing struggle for human rights and dignity.
	Very vague.
	That's not very good.
	I have to look something up now that you read that stuff.
	Sure.
	Okay, I get it.
	What?
	Yeah, yeah.
	Well, I'm listening to this.
	Russia wants to do this.
	They want to do that.
	Okay, if you take and you look at every one of these assertions about Russia trying to push their weight around, it's all about the Russian oil and gas problems.
	I guess, yeah.
	Exactly.
	So we already talked about they're going to run some gas out of South Korea.
	There's some ports near North Korea, and they're going to run some stuff out of there.
	And then, of course, they were meeting in Brazil because they're doing a deal with the Brazilian gas and oil companies.
	And right now, the trilateral...
	No, they call it the trilateral.
	Let me see what they call it.
	They call it the tripartite...
	I'm sorry.
	Three-way talks, of course.
	Let's have a three-way.
	Putin.
	Brings Russia to Latin America.
	Cooperation with Latin America is key to Russia's foreign policy.
	Latin America is a rich source of natural resources, oil and bauxites and fresh water.
	Yeah, this is about trade.
	It's not about war.
	And did you see what we had a proclamation, executive order.
	Executive order.
	To change or to amend the Trade Act of 1974, which provides a favorable trade and, what is the word,
	import duties to countries, And I now, for Barack Obama, President of the United States, by virtue of the authority vested in me by the Constitution, do proclaim that the designation of Russia as a beneficiary developing country is terminated, effective October 3, 2014, in order to reflect the termination of Russia's designation as a beneficiary developing country.
	General notes 4A and 4D and the pertinent subsections of the HTS are modified as set forth in the annex of this proclamation.
	In other words, all of the import duties that were waived are back on.
	Well, that's just about it.
	Yeah, but that's pretty significant.
	Yeah, I'm sure it's lots of money.
	Yeah, for them, yeah, it's tons of money.
	And, of course, we have so many investments in Russia that I'm surprised that the corporations that are deeply involved with the Russian business community have not squawked louder.
	Yeah.
	I'm, well, it's kind of like the Dutch.
	You know, the Dutch are probably more than half of their GDP is reliant on Russia.
	And, you know, it's just shut up.
	Shut up.
	Just don't say anything.
	We have a new documentary that came out, which is I watched this documentary on HBO. I believe it is an original Channel 4 documentary, so I don't think it's an HBO original.
	And every single piece of the footage that was in this, I had already seen during the Sochi games.
	Here's a quick cut down of the trailer.
	Russia, 2014.
	Gay people are targeted by the state and hunted by vigilantes.
	The gay community is under siege.
	They use the pretext of fighting pedophilia in Russia to attack gay people.
	Putin hates gays!
	They're being hunted!
	It's open season!
	Hunted like dogs.
	The war against gays in Russia.
	I'm telling you, every single...
	Putin!
	Every single...
	Piece of footage of a gay guy getting kicked, a gay guy getting sprayed with pepper spray, a lesbian being beaten.
	I had seen already, almost a year ago, during Sochi.
	They were trying to slam him during that event.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, well, next will be another documentary about them killing innocent dogs.
	But then to also say they're using pedophilia as a reason to hunt the gays, it's factually not true.
	We've been through this.
	We've deconstructed every single bit of these laws.
	It's, you know, nobody cares.
	It's just a problem.
	Just no one cares.
	Ugh.
	Nobody cares.
	Well, we care.
	Well, we do care, because for us, it's content.
	It's king.
	Hey, look at 28 minutes.
	Content.
	Beautiful.
	We can.
	I love it.
	Well, I can do the SDR thing, then, maybe.
	They'll just flow into it.
	You're not going to go back to that.
	Well, there was an article in USA Today, which I found very interesting.
	Well, that's, yeah.
	Yeah, some of the great journalism I've seen in USA Today, I'm sure this was interesting, too.
	Well, they have copied stuff from another outfit, which I bumped into, which I think you'll be interested in.
	But the title of it is China Currency Push Takes Aim at the Dollar.
	And I believe that the Hong Kong umbrella revolution may have something to do with this, at very least a distraction for Beijing.
	And if you look at who's running this operation, this is the Endowment for Democracy, who have funded all these NGOs, who are in Hong Kong, who are riling everybody up.
	It's just another one of our freedom and democracy regime change pushes.
	Well, you have to admit we're pretty damn good at it.
	At first, I think I, for one...
	Saw the Chinese thing as some, because they've always been complainers in Hong Kong.
	I thought, I didn't think of it as an American initiative, but the more I think about it, especially with this sort of thing going on, I think we've become so good at this.
	Because after all the failures, we were doing this in the 50s and 60s, and we were getting busted all the time.
	Oh, the CIA, we found the guy, yeah, it was us.
	And you had all these errors.
	And then, of course, the State Department took it over under Hillary with the Internet and the bots.
	And the techno experts.
	And it's become very, if true, and it's possible, it's become a very slick and frightening operation.
	I mean, I can see these guys are so talented they could have you hating on me and quitting the show.
	What happened?
	Son of a bitch!
	Let's go back.
	I have a techno experts here, Clibb.
	I just pulled it from the archive.
	I have this group of young, you know, techno experts.
	That's a GX2 mix of it.
	Well, there's Hillary with their techno experts.
	Okay, so China's bidding...
	Let's assume that we are that good.
	Yeah.
	And now we have to stand in awe.
	Yeah.
	And it's a powerful tool.
	If the Chinese, and of course we've noticed this before, we've noticed it with Gaddafi.
	You start messing around with the dollar, the hegemony of the dollar.
	Here we go.
	Here we go.
	You end up in trouble.
	This is the point.
	Yes, you wind up dead.
	China is bidding to enter the heart of global finance by establishing its currency, the RMB, as part of a ubiquitous monetary unit used in official transactions around the world.
	This is USA Today.
	The issue of whether the Chinese should be part of the International Monetary Fund's special drawing rights, the composite reserve currency used in official financing, is highly technocratic.
	But the political question at stake go to the core of world money and power and will be discussed in the background at the annual meetings of the IMF and World Bank in Washington this week.
	In the background.
	Not a lot of reporting going on about this meeting between the IMF and the World Bank.
	Have you heard anything about this?
	No.
	The decision on a new SDR structure, this is the 2010 reforms that Fifi Lagarde keeps calling for that have not been ratified by Congress, which they tried to do.
	Even Kerry tried to do this because he's not for America.
	He's an Atlanticist and a globalist.
	The decision on a new SDR structure to be made in the next 15 months will influence how China and its currency can play a bigger part in driving world trade, investment, and capital flows.
	Now, here's the thing that struck me in this article.
	As the world's number two economy after the U.S., China believes it is close to earning the status of a reserve money, the first time that an emerging market currency would attain this position.
	Chinese entry into the magic circle has been advanced by the British government's September decision to issue RMB-denominated bonds, the first big government to take such a step and allow the proceeds to be held as reserves by the Bank of England.
	And this magic circle I read, and this is a website, we haven't talked about this, I don't think, the OMFIF, the Official Monetary and Financial Institutions Forum, which you can find at omfif.org.
	This is very interesting, this outfit.
	I'll go to the about, and let's just read what this says.
	The Official Monetary and Financial Institutions Forum is an independent research and advisory group, a platform for confidential exchanges of views between official institutions and private sector counterparties.
	The overriding aim is to enable the private and public sector to learn from each other in different ways, promoting better understanding of the world economy and higher across-the-board standards.
	OMFIF cooperates with central banks, sovereign funds, regulators, debt managers, and other public and private sector institutions around the world.
	And if you look at the advisory board, and they have huge lists for banking, capital markets, investments...
	I don't know many names, but when I found on public policy, two names jumped out at me.
	One, Fritz Bolkestein.
	And I know this because I know the Dutch politicians.
	He's now the founder and president of the Telders Foundation, think tank connected with the center-right party, the People's Freedom Party in the Netherlands.
	But he served as member of parliament, minister of foreign trade, minister of defense, member of the European Commission.
	This is a major-ass elitist douchebag in Gitmo Lowlands.
	And another name that jumped out is Ruud Lubbers.
	Ruud Libers, who was Prime Minister of the Netherlands, and then he ran the International Commission for Human Rights and Refugees at the United Nations, and you'll recall he was kicked out or he had to resign because he was sexually harassing all the women there, pinching their butt and putting his arm around their waist, and he got thrown out.
	But this is a massive, massive douchebag elite.
	And if you start to look at this list, this is the club where they talk about these things.
	And right there in their documentation, they talk about the magic circle.
	And the magic circle are the main four currencies that comprise the SDR. And I find this interesting that now this OMFIF language is seeping into mainstream.
	USA Today is pretty mainstream.
	But why do they even call it a magic circle to start with?
	Just the whole idea of something like a magic circle, like a secret club, a secret handshake.
	Well, they use the word club in quotes.
	Yes, they do.
	Yes, they do.
	It's essentially a club in quotes of bankers.
	That's right.
	And I'm looking over these lists.
	This editorial and commentary list is the one that kind of fascinates me.
	Where did you find that?
	Well, that's where you were just under the advisory board.
	Oh, okay, yeah.
	So the advisory board is chaired by Professor Lord Macdonald Desai.
	OMFIF meetings, which usually take place in a club-like atmosphere within central banks and other official institutions, provide for deep-seated exchange of views.
	This is a club, and yet look at all these guys.
	So the idea, I think, is to bring China in.
	By some accounts, they now have the number one economy.
	No.
	By some...
	There was someone said...
	There wasn't a big publication that said it just today.
	Well, they can say what they want.
	Well, I'm not arguing the point.
	But they should be number two, and they're not in.
	And if then the remedy comes in...
	I think this is what a lot of these douche buckets want.
	And they're all going to win.
	They don't give a crap about what country.
	And to me, it feels like what we have to do right now.
	We have 15 months before the SDR. Maybe it's inevitable.
	I don't know.
	No.
	A lot of transactions are being done in Remedy already.
	Or in the SDR already.
	And Russia and China are not doing their trade in dollars.
	Why do you say no?
	The SDR is already a form of reserve currency.
	You can say no, but it is.
	Well, what's the point of killing Gaddafi?
	To save the SDR? I don't have an answer for that.
	They're going after China with these riots in Hong Kong.
	Which, by the way, everyone should note, this rise in all this action in Hong Kong.
	Hong Kong is the banking center of all China.
	Thank you.
	It's essentially, and I said the word again, but don't Hong Kong.
	It's the Zurich, or where's the central?
	The Zug.
	The Zug.
	Yeah.
	Of China.
	The Bank of China is there in this beautiful building.
	All these banks are in Hong Kong, which has ruined the country state, the city state, whatever you want to call it.
	It's ruined the place because if you want to visit there now, it's like you're in Switzerland.
	It's too expensive.
	But...
	And they've shut down the banks with these people in the streets.
	Oh, yeah.
	We've done a great job of it.
	Yeah.
	The Chinese, by the way, have said publicly that they want us to butt out.
	Yeah, because they know.
	We're responsible, but they say, well, if you are, if you're getting involved, you're making a mistake.
	I think it was even in the last show, show notes, I have a number of the...
	I can look them up.
	We didn't even get to it.
	I have a number of the NGOs that received direct financing from the the any NED, the National Endowment for Democracy, which is this huge organization, which fund which they receive their funding from USAID, which is the State Department.
	That money goes in the National Endowment for Democracy.
	And then that money trickles down into sometimes hundreds of nongovernmental organizations.
	Each get $1.5, $2 million each.
	And that's their operating budget.
	And they go around creating things such as, oh, we'll call this the Occupy Movement.
	And, oh, we'll call it the Umbrella Revolution.
	And we'll all do mic check, mic check.
	No.
	And they did the hands up, don't shoot.
	I know!
	How stupid is that?
	What has this got to do with anything?
	Yeah, they tried.
	I think someone pulled the plug on that and said, no, no, no.
	We cannot do this.
	Do you think it's possible?
	Do you think it's possible?
	Now, Fifi Lagarde is front and center at every meeting.
	She's not a politician.
	She's not a leader of a country.
	But she's always at the big meetings.
	She's not a member of the G20. She's not a member of the G7. But she's always there right next to our president.
	So you've got to assume she's a big deal.
	And they had to kick out the French guy under false pretenses, and that turned out to be all fake and phony, except that he was a philanderer, but he certainly didn't rape any maid in a hotel room.
	Bingo, boom, shakalaka, Fifi's in.
	And now she's the head of...
	I'd never even heard of Dominique Strauss-Kahn.
	I didn't ever see the fat frog at any meetings.
	Did you?
	No.
	Next to the president?
	No.
	No.
	They wanted this woman in.
	So Fifi's in.
	From Chicago.
	Chicago lawyer.
	Chicago lawyer.
	Big time.
	International lawyer.
	Big time Chicago international.
	Right.
	And maybe all of what's going on right now is just to grab turf and rubble-ize everybody else and make sure that we're still the biggest, baddest asses in town.
	Maybe we're supposed to keep our veto power in the IMF voting structure even if the REM-EB is put in.
	I think it's related.
	I really do.
	But there's multiple agendas at play.
	And part of it is just to...
	Grab, just ruin everybody else.
	Especially Russia.
	Well, Russia is a target, obviously, for various, I think for a lot of different reasons.
	Oil and they're fooling around with the money.
	They're going to use a different currency than the dollar, which is what traditionally they've always used.
	And there's a lot of issues with the Russians.
	Yeah.
	But I think we're going to start...
	I'm going to take this advisory board page of this operation.
	I'm going to take and make a screen capture of it.
	Let's see who shows up.
	And I'm going to see who starts winding up dead.
	It's a Deadpool.
	I think there's a number of these editorial and commentary people.
	It's astonishing that they're on this list, that they would put themselves on this list.
	Do you recognize any names?
	That's what I was going to ask.
	No, they're all second-tier guys to me, but Paul Betts, for example, right at the top.
	European business columnist for the Financial Times.
	Oh, okay.
	He's held the position since the year 2000.
	So these guys are all on the payroll?
	These guys are all...
	Well, no.
	I don't know how you can justify this when they have all these rules about when you're a journalist being on the editorial and commentary side.
	In other words, you're going to be doing their bidding so that you're already in violation of every edict that you're taught.
	He began his career as a news reporter, the Observer, before moving to the Financial Times in 76, where he held various positions, including Rome correspondent, New York correspondent, Paris correspondent.
	Now it's starting to sound like MI6.
	He also has experience as deputy weekend FT editor, travel editor, aerospace correspondent.
	Again, sounding more like MI6.
	Well, okay.
	So it's possible that, you know, he might be in there.
	I mean, a couple of these guys have these kinds of bios where you sound like a spy.
	Now let's move straight into the next related topic.
	And I need to say this again.
	We are living under the repeal of the Smith-Mund Act.
	Which means the United States of America, by law, is able to put propaganda out on the American people.
	Oh, by the way, stop before you go on so I can do something, work in the background.
	Who is the byline on the USA Today article that you cited?
	Hold on.
	Let me go back to it one sec.
	The byline...
	David Marsh.
	Special for USA Today.
	Oh, a special.
	You know what that means.
	That means he's not on staff.
	He's brought in.
	David Marsh.
	He doesn't even have a link.
	I'll look him up.
	Whatever the case is, that story's been planted.
	Good, because this leads right into a fascinating story from a German journalist who has blown the whistle on the BND, the Bundesnachrichtendienst, which is the German CIA, And let me tell you a bit about this guy.
	His name is Udo Ufkotter.
	Udo of Cotta.
	Let me grab his...
	Where's the Ministry of Truth?
	Here we go.
	That's where you can find all this stuff.
	Can I interrupt you for another second?
	Yeah.
	David Marsh, Managing Director and Co-Founder of the Official Monetary and Financial Institutions Forum, OMFIF. No wonder he put the magic circle in there.
	He's from that outfit.
	Yeah.
	Well, he's the co-founder of the outfit.
	Sickening.
	Sickening.
	And USA Today.
	Oh, yeah.
	Go ahead.
	Print that.
	Hey, boys.
	It's a state of advertisement.
	Hey, boys.
	It's time to put this out into the press.
	Hey, can we call someone over there at USA Today?
	Maybe we can find a guy who's all on board.
	Let me see.
	Hello, USA Today?
	Yeah.
	Hey, can we write an article about the magic circle?
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Okay, thanks a lot.
	Good.
	This is how it works.
	This is Udo of Cotta, and he is going to explain exactly how he, in the past, operated with the BND, the German Intelligence Services.
	And he's written for big publications.
	He has a wiki page, and you can read all about him, although it's all under dispute.
	But listen to this.
	We're still a kind of a colony of the Americans.
	And being a colony, it is very easy to approach young journalists through what is very important here is transatlantic organizations.
	All journalists from really respected...
	Now he's talking about outfits just like this.
	Right?
	A transatlantic organization or Council on Foreign Relations or any of these outfits.
	And recommended big German newspapers, magazines, radio stations, TV stations, they are all members or guests of those big transatlantic organizations.
	And in these transatlantic organizations, you are approached to be pro-American and There is nobody coming to you and saying, well, we are the Central Intelligence Agency.
	Would you like to work for us?
	No.
	This is not the case, how it happens.
	What they do, these transatlantic organizations, is they invite you.
	They invite you for seeing the United States.
	They pay for that.
	They pay all your expenses and everything.
	So you're bribed.
	You get more and more corrupt people.
	Because they make you good contacts.
	You won't know that those good contacts are, let's say, non-official covers or officially people working for Central Intelligence Agency or other American agencies.
	So you make friends.
	You think they are friends.
	And you cooperate with them.
	They ask you, well, could you do me this favor?
	Could you do me that favor?
	And so your brain more and more is brainwashed.
	This by the way is exactly what has happened to the tech press.
	This is exactly what has happened.
	It's true.
	It is a complete parallel analogy where technology reporting is no longer reporting.
	It is PR. This is exactly what has happened.
	And it happens with, you know, free review units and, you know, dinners.
	And we fly you in to have the presentation of the next operating system.
	Oh, and let me suck you off.
	These guys.
	And your question...
	I think the CIA in the old days...
	It was much easier.
	Just, hey, want some booze and a hookah?
	Yeah, fine, I'll write whatever you want, man.
	Is this only the case with German journalists?
	No.
	I think it is especially the case with British journalists, because they have a much closer relationship.
	It is especially the case with Israelis, of course, with French journalists for a part.
	Not that big as with German or with British journalists.
	It is the case for Australians.
	Journalists for journalists from New Zealand, from Taiwan, from, well, there is many countries, countries in the Arab world, like Jordan, for example, like Oman, the Sultanate of Oman.
	There is many countries where this happens, where you find people to claim they are respected journalists, but if you look behind them, you'll find they are puppets on a string of the Central Intelligence Agency.
	And it's done in many ways.
	You know, why don't you come to the White House Christmas party?
	You know, Rachel Maddow.
	Well, they used to be more overt about it.
	I mean, like I've said before in the show, I'll say it again for new listeners, is Gina Smith, for example, was solicited, and this used to go on apparently more than it does now.
	In the 1970s and 80s, or I guess the 70s mostly, the CIA would have a recruitment desk and they would recruit you to work for the agency as a journalist.
	Yeah.
	And then they'd place you in the New York Times.
	Operation Pundit.
	Operation Pundit.
	It's a known operation within the CIA. And you get two checks?
	Yeah.
	Well, it gets even better.
	You don't even have to do the work.
	Sometimes the intelligence agencies, they come to your office and want you to write an article.
	I give you an example not from strange other journalists, from me myself.
	The German Foreign Intelligence, Bundesnachrichtendienst, it is just a sister organization of the Central Intelligence Agency.
	It was founded by the American Intelligence Agency.
	So one day the BND, this German Foreign Intelligence Agency, came to my office at the Frankfurter Allgemeine in Frankfurt.
	And they wanted me to write an article about Libya and about Colonel Muammar Gaddafi.
	I had absolutely no secret information regarding Colonel Muammar Gaddafi and Libya.
	But they gave me all these secret information and they just wanted me to sign the article with my name.
	I did that.
	But it was an article that was published in the Frankfurt Allgemeine that originally came from the Bundesnachrichtendienst, from the German Foreign Intelligence Agency.
	So do you really think that this is journalism, intelligence agencies writing articles?
	Yeah, it's pretty much everything.
	That is the definition of journalism, I think.
	Yeah, today, my ash bag has been broken.
	Quite a while.
	One last quote.
	And Bob Woodward, of course, is our prime example.
	Oh, yeah.
	If anybody, what's the book, Family of Secrets?
	Yep.
	If anybody reads that book, there's a good document.
	It's well documented that Woodward, he started off as naval intelligence.
	And the next thing you know, he's writing all these books with all this crazy information.
	It's like, how does that work?
	One last clip here from Udo.
	Oh yes, that article was how Libya and Colonel Muammar Gaddafi, how he secretly tried to build a poison gas factory, I think Interruptor was the name, yeah.
	And I got all those informations.
	It was a story that was printed worldwide two days later.
	But I had no information on that.
	It was the intelligence agency that wanted me to write this article.
	And what's This is another part of the system, is if you want to really make something propagate, go viral, as it were, then you just say, oh, well, this was written in the Uganda Times, and they say this is true, ergo, the New York Times can print it.
	Because they've sourced it from what they call a trustworthy source.
	Yes.
	Now, there's two things that go along with this, and since we're doing it anyway, I might as well just blow it out while we're here.
	The Norman Lear Center.
	Does this ring a bell to you, Lear?
	No.
	Okay.
	Well, let me think.
	It's about all in the family.
	It's a bunch of, oh, like the old couch that Archie used to sit on and...
	Well, the Norman Lear Center is a division of the Annenberg School for Communications and Journalism, and it runs the Hollywood Health and Society Program.
	Out of USC. Yes, USC. The Norman Lear Center, I think they fund that with at least a couple million dollars a year.
	Norman Lear's still around.
	He's not dead, is he?
	I think he is dead.
	Maybe he's dead, yeah.
	And a lot of people are members of this Norman Lear.
	It was founded with a $5 million gift from Norman Lear, but most of its active project had been funded by other entities.
	And, well, I'm not even going to tell you who.
	You can almost guess.
	And they had a meeting.
	He's still alive.
	He's 92 in New Haven, Connecticut.
	There you go.
	So this is really a Hollywood outfit.
	And there was a meeting that Marty Kaplan is the Norman Lear Professor of Entertainment Media Society.
	And he was talking about how the Norman Lear Center works with the White House, the administration, but also with Hollywood.
	A few quick clips.
	This is the setup from Marty talking about the center.
	Hollywood Health and Society does outreach to the entertainment industry in order to provide a resource free to writers and producers anywhere in the entertainment industry who are covering the areas of public health, Climate change and access to healthcare.
	We do it in a wide variety of ways, briefings, tip sheets, events at the Writers Guild West and the Writers Guild East.
	Tomorrow I'm going to the lovely weather in New York for an event we are doing at the Writers Guild East on the Affordable Care Act.
	Now this is not foreign to us, because of course we know that they're trying this all the time, and Valerie Jarrett's taking meetings, but as you get into this I mean, that's one thing.
	It was voted.
	It passed the Supreme Court.
	It's law.
	Now we have to go propagandize it.
	This is propaganda.
	This is the definition of propaganda.
	But climate change?
	Okay, let's listen to a couple examples.
	Here's the Affordable Care Act.
	We have a new grant from the California Endowment which is about the Affordable Care Act.
	Access to health care is a long-standing issue of public health and now with this collaboration of funders we are able to provide special attention to it and the event that I just mentioned in New York, the Affordable Care Act Comedy, drama, and reality will happen on Tuesday.
	Uh-huh.
	Oh, I'd like to go to that.
	If you look at the Hollywood Health Society, the advisory board is another one of those kind of who's who's.
	David Foster, Vince Gilligan, Vince from Breaking Bad, Cantor's in there, the Cantor's who are Disney, Judith Light.
	Very cool.
	Now, let's listen to some more propaganda for climate change.
	We have a brand new aspect of Hollywood Health and Society, which is to work on the topic of climate change, where, again, all these different activities, writer briefings, screenings, newsletters, and so on, are in attendance.
	To provide free resources to writers who want to include climate change as one of the storylines that they're working on.
	And just to give you an example of that climate change work, a few weeks ago, there was a field trip.
	We do something called Story Bus Tours to the JPL NASA lab in Pasadena, where we brought something like 37 writers and producers to experience The most amazing stuff that they have going on to inspire them in this area and to be factually accurate.
	Notice how not only does the American government and their affiliated NGOs use the word inspire when it comes to propaganda, But it's the same word the jihadists use, inspire.
	So it's kind of the same magazine.
	Yeah, two different sides.
	I'm going to have to stop this for a second and give you a clip of the day for that because of that one sentence in there about getting them to incorporate climate change into their scripts.
	Really?
	You're going to give me a clip of the day?
	That is actually a clip of the day.
	Well, okay, but we can't have multiple clips of the day.
	Only one.
	Yeah.
	Clip of the day.
	Very important clip.
	Very important clip.
	If I get a better one, you know...
	I don't care.
	This was a very important clip that people needed to hear.
	To realize what's going on and how this works.
	Let's...
	I'm going to say right now, like I said, I was in Los Angeles this whole week and I was hanging out with people from Hollywood types.
	Oh, with Angelina Jolie and Brad Pitt?
	No, the people that are at the E-Network, you know, level.
	LAUGHTER Ryan Seacrest, I'm sorry.
	It's the C team, it's the junior varsities, the JVs.
	The JVs, yeah, okay.
	And you can just see that sort of thing.
	Most of these people do not...
	We don't know anything about current events at all.
	No.
	And they're getting a free...
	Group like to start brainwashing them about climate change, and now all of a sudden they're experts.
	Yeah, and they're getting a free bus ride to NASA? Come on, this is great.
	Everybody into the bus!
	Would you like a little more?
	Sure.
	Okay.
	Norman Lear, as part of our efforts in climate change, has been saying over and over what we need is to have a show that has lots of viewers and has a character who is a total pain in the ass about climate change.
	And the character he thought would best do that is Manny, the kid, on Modern Family.
	Well, that didn't happen.
	Now notice, they pitched it.
	They pitched it to Modern Family to try and make this kid a climate change nutjob about, you know, everything.
	Yeah, denier.
	No, no, no, not a denier.
	I think that...
	Oh, yeah, no, a denier, yes.
	No, you're right.
	Denier.
	So they didn't do that, but...
	But I will show you something that did happen, and we never take credit for anything that we did.
	No, we don't do that.
	We never do that.
	But I have seen Norman personally make this pitch to a number of showrunners.
	Now, showrunners are the people who, as the word implies, run a show, and it is their job to make things happen.
	Very important job.
	Well, they also guide the show.
	Yes, they do.
	They guide everything.
	They guide everything.
	So now you know that this is actively being pitched to propagandize you through popular culture.
	And now he's going to play a clip.
	Hey there, neighbor.
	Oh, hey.
	It's Asher, right?
	Yeah.
	I just wanted to let you know, I think there might be something wrong with your air conditioner.
	Oh, really?
	Yeah, I mean, it just seems to be running a lot, even when it's kind of cool outside.
	Oh, no, no.
	My partner runs a little hot.
	Not as hot as our planet.
	Sorry, I don't mean to be that guy.
	It's just, um, we're all in this together.
	Yeah, I drive a Prius, so...
	And that's a nice little gesture.
	My car runs on reclaimed cooking oil.
	I have some literature if you want it.
	That's okay.
	Save the paper.
	I haven't printed anything since 2004.
	I was going to email you.
	On your power-hungry computer?
	My entire house is solar-powered.
	I sell energy back to the grid and use that money to save polar bears.
	I'm an environmental lawyer, so, you know, I'm pretty green.
	So is your lawn.
	I went drought tolerant.
	Succulents, indigenous plants, rock garden.
	My other daddy says your yard looks like a litter box.
	She's a cute kid.
	I remember when she was in disposable diapers.
	Right.
	So, we all get the idea of...
	Wow!
	I can't accept another clip of the day.
	No, I'm not going to give it to you because it's part of the same clip of the day.
	I don't care.
	It's the same clip.
	Now, let's find out...
	Who do you think is behind some...
	Who's financing some of these things, John?
	Who could it be?
	Who could it be?
	Don't say Koch brothers, please.
	It wouldn't be the Koch brothers.
	It would be one of those other big groups.
	Or White House from Rhode Island and whoever he's investing in, which I'm going to find out.
	There's such an obvious one, John.
	Okay, Disney.
	There is another new exciting project in Hollywood Health and Society.
	Which is called the Global Centers.
	It's funded by the Gates Foundation and in fact our Gates program officers are here in town today and because they're here we're in a series of meetings which I'm playing hooky on briefly.
	Four others of us are at those meetings right now which I will join.
	We now have partners in India and in Nigeria.
	The number one and two producers of entertainment in the world.
	I didn't know Nigeria was a producer of entertainment, other than those funny emails I get.
	I don't believe it.
	I think Hong Kong is number three.
	How does Nigeria get there?
	Or number two or three.
	I don't know.
	We have to look this up.
	Exactly.
	Are India and Nigeria.
	Hollywood is number three.
	So we are now seeing whether we can help our partners in those two production centers do the kinds of things there that we have been able to do here.
	So this is, attention, attention, India, Nigeria, you're about to receive some regime change and some freedom and democracy because Bill Gates is paying for it.
	Appropriately adapted for their area.
	Appropriately adapted for their area.
	Well, let's just wind this up with the numbers.
	Let's just wind it up with the numbers.
	How are they doing?
	It's a very short clip.
	How many TV shows, scripts, storylines?
	Do you want to take a guess?
	Twenty.
	So in the course of our work, this is in the two years, 11 to 13, 335 storylines that we worked on have been aired.
	We've worked with 35 networks in the past four years.
	91 different television shows.
	Woohoo!
	20, John?
	20?
	20.
	Okay, well, they're all over them.
	Well, I mean, you notice this.
	I noticed this.
	I was watching something the other day, and somebody just slipped in one of these one-line gags like they were doing in that clip that he played.
	You know, oh, well, you know, it's not as fast as the Earth's warming up kind of thing.
	Just casual.
	Oh, yeah.
	Oh, yeah.
	That's what you want to do.
	You want these casual comments, so it's just like...
	So it just keeps going.
	The public is being pummeled with this crap.
	I want to thank Bunny Serrano, one of our producers who brought a lot of this to my attention, did some good work with me.
	I'm very happy.
	This is our Global Intelligence Network, people.
	Well, you mentioned, I think there's a couple of flies in the ointment of the scheme, especially in India.
	Apparently Gates' operation has been illegally vaccinating people with Gardasil.
	Yeah, of course.
	Teenage girls are dropping dead, and there's a lawsuit.
	Now the Indian government's going to sue the Gates, and we have sent you a link, it'll be in the show notes, that you should read this article.
	It's frightening.
	Because this has been going on.
	Young tribal girls tested with HPV vaccines.
	Economic Times of India published their report in August 2012 stating that in 2009 tests had been carried out on 16,000 tribal school children in some area of India using the human papillomavirus vaccine Gardasil.
	And then I guess they were also testing...
	The other one, which is Cervanix from GlaxoSmithKline.
	Cervarix, I think, is what it is.
	Oh, yeah, Cervarix, you're right.
	I'm putting it in the show notes right now, by the way.
	And 14,000 tribal children vaccinated.
	And then apparently a lot of these girls dropped dead.
	120 girls had been taken ill, suffering from a variety of symptoms, including epileptic seizures, which we've heard about.
	That was going on in Finland with other vaccines.
	Severe stomach aches, headaches, and the mood swings.
	Remember that one area in the United States that got a bunch of the vaccine?
	Yeah, they called it...
	What was it?
	They had a word for it.
	Some neuroses.
	Yeah, it was like mass hysteria.
	Yeah.
	And this is getting out in India, as opposed to the United States.
	These stories of what the Gates Foundation is up to in some of these areas and investing in the...
	My favorite one, of course, the big investors in the criminal private prison system stock.
	That was in Leroy.
	That was Leroy, New York, mass hysteria.
	Right, mass hysteria.
	Oh, conversion disorder.
	That's what it was.
	Conversion disorder.
	Yeah, conversion disorder.
	Trying to convert this weird vaccine...
	So anyway, the idea is that they hear about this stuff in India.
	We don't get these stories in the United States.
	Nothing is ever bad as said about gay people.
	If you ask someone on the street, oh, he's a wonderful man.
	You don't want your funding to dry up, do you?
	Well, that would be one of the problems.
	In India, which is more oriented toward these sorts of things because they don't trust anybody, This is not, if word gets out that the Bollywood people are taking money or doing anything because of the Gates Foundation operation, no, this is not going to work.
	So all of that...
	Hollywood beware!
	All of this is happening.
	It is happening continuously.
	It is across all forms of mainstream media.
	And it is the only reason that...
	Well, that's not the only reason, but we're not susceptible to that because we don't have advertising.
	We don't take money from anybody except the people who are enjoying the value of this program.
	Although I'm completely open to...
	I've been waiting for my climate change denial check.
	Haven't seen it show up yet from the Koch brothers.
	No, we're not going to get any money from the Koch brothers.
	Because I don't think they listen to podcasts or even know how to get.
	And I had a contact friend of the Koch brothers and I told him to tell them about our show.
	How'd that work out?
	You see the results.
	Yeah.
	I said, who?
	What?
	Podcast?
	I don't know what you're talking about.
	So, with that in mind, I would like to thank you for your courage and say, in the morning to you, John C. Dvorak.
	Well, and in the morning to you, Adam Curry.
	Also, in the morning to all the ships at sea and the boots on the ground and the feet in the air, the subs in the water and all the dames and the knights out there.
	And, of course, in the morning to everybody in the chatroom, no agenda stream.com.
	In the morning to Nick the Rat, who provided the art for our episode 658.
	Good to see Nick back on the stick.
	Noagendaartgenerator.com is where you can see all of the art that is submitted.
	It's very difficult for us often to choose from so many.
	Fabulous.
	Just fabulous.
	Fabulous.
	This reminds me.
	So I finally broke down and called.
	I got switched over to T-Mobile.
	uh from at&t because i can't i can't afford these these overseas rates with mickey travels and you know at&t you have to buy a 300 package of bandwidth it's not stings it's the whole thing's ridiculous and and t-mobile has this loss leader deal i'm sure no matter where you are in the world that you may only be on you you can't be on lte but you get the you know two and a half g or 3g but it's the same just flat rate flat rate you You don't pay anything extra.
	So that's fine for whatever we have to do.
	Whatever she has to do, because I don't really have a phone.
	And so I'd go through this website, and twice it fails on me.
	The order.
	And the reason why is I just need a SIM card for if I want to use my Nokia.
	I'm not getting a phone, but I figured I'll get a Mickey 5S, which you can get for free almost.
	And then I go through the whole checkout, and then it says, oh, this is on back order, and I'd already said, please switch our number, so I hit the back button, because I don't want to switch the number if we don't have the phone.
	Sounds logical.
	Then I get this, oops, didn't work, and you have to call in, and now you're trying to get a person at T-Mobile.
	I'll spare you the details, but finally I got this girl, and I'm going to say she was probably millennial for sure.
	Yeah, for sure.
	And she was very cheery, very happy, but every single sentence...
	So you're Adam, you be Adam, and you...
	I'm going to call you, so if you ring the phone, I'm calling.
	Okay.
	Hold on a second.
	Here's the phone.
	Hello, T-Mobile.
	Yeah, I've got a problem.
	It's going to be a little difficult to explain, but I hit the back.
	I was trying to do what you have online, and it doesn't seem to really work the way it's advertised.
	In other words, the idea, I screwed up, and I need to change it back.
	Yeah, that's right.
	I'll be really happy to help you.
	Can I have your first name, please?
	I'm Adam, Adam Curry.
	Oh, awesome, Adam.
	Okay.
	And have you been a T-Mobile customer before?
	I don't know what that's got to do with anything, but I think maybe.
	Awesome!
	Okay, Adam.
	Well, let's see.
	I can fix this for you, no problem.
	So, do you have your order number handy?
	I do.
	Oh, awesome!
	Okay, so after five minutes of this, I say to her...
	This is on T-Mobile?
	Yes.
	I say to her, you start every sentence with the word awesome.
	Awesome.
	And I just want to tell you, it's not awesome.
	It is not awesome.
	And she says, really?
	I do that?
	I say, yes.
	Every single sentence you say, awesome.
	She says, well, that's how we were trained.
	What?
	Yes!
	And I get in this whole conversation.
	The woman who trained us to read the script, she said, please start every sentence with awesome.
	What?
	Yes!
	But wait, it gets better.
	So then I tweet.
	So I'm on the phone with her.
	What?
	I can't imagine how that's possible.
	So while this is happening, and actually now I'm kind of, she's funny, and she's listening to what I'm saying because, you know, she said, wow, that's strange.
	We're trained.
	She's a pro.
	She's a pro.
	The woman who trained us said, please start every sentence with awesome.
	So I do awesome.
	I said, you know, it's really weak use of language.
	And then I tweet this out, and someone tweets back, maybe she should use SuperDuper.
	And I said, hey, you know, someone just tweeted back that you should try using SuperDuper.
	And I swear to God, John, she started, SuperDuper!
	And she started doing that.
	She said, every sentence was, SuperDuper, Adam, okay, we can help you with that.
	It was just, it was in a twilight zone, man.
	Well, it doesn't surprise me.
	I went to the Adobe Max conference in Los Angeles, and I went to all the keynotes, because the keynotes, they show a bunch of product and some of the new features.
	And every single person, at least the first five of them, came out.
	And the first thing they said, I'm super excited about Bing.
	We have to see our new super exciting features.
	And then they used amazing, look at this, it's amazing, amazing, amazing, amazing.
	Oh my god!
	The next group that came out, they changed amazing to awesome.
	The same word you were.
	Awesome!
	And that's all they said.
	It's awesome.
	This is awesome.
	You'll look at this and then you'd have super awesome.
	The thing that I noticed, because I was counting the amazings and the awesomes on my fingers, I should have that little clicker I used to have.
	On your belt.
	Click, click.
	Click, click, click.
	I thought the strangest thing was Nobody just said super, like the British might say.
	Or super duper.
	Super.
	Or super duper.
	Anything.
	I mean, they never said fabulous, fantastic, astonishing.
	Flabbergasting, flummoxing.
	Yeah, there was a lot of possibilities.
	Awesome.
	But just plain super is kind of cool, but no, you got none of that.
	Anyway, it was very annoying.
	It was disgusting, actually.
	The Germans also used that.
	Zupa.
	This is Zupa.
	Zupa guy.
	Zupa.
	Zupa.
	I like Zupa.
	What are some synonyms for...
	Amazing?
	Or awesome?
	Well, let's try amazing.
	No, awesome.
	Let's try awesome.
	Let's try awesome.
	Well, let's just do it for a second.
	Let's see what we come up with.
	Like Webster.
	Appalling, awful...
	Oh, that's interesting.
	Cool, phenomenal, excellent.
	Phenomenal.
	Nobody says phenomenal.
	Bang up.
	Bang up.
	Fantastic.
	Oh, here's one.
	Wicked.
	Wicked.
	Yeah, where's Wicked?
	Terrific.
	Where's Terrific?
	It's a classic.
	Yeah.
	Let's try Amazing.
	Let's see what we have for Amazing.
	Surprising.
	Striking.
	Ooh.
	Striking's good.
	Unexpected.
	Astonishing.
	Another good one.
	Extraordinary.
	Wonderful.
	Astounding.
	Marvelous.
	Miraculous.
	That's just as bad as...
	Tremendous.
	Tremendous.
	Mirific.
	What?
	Mirific.
	Never heard of it.
	M-I-R-I-F-I-C. I've never heard of that word.
	Mirific.
	Well, let's start using it then.
	Let's see.
	I think that's a mirific idea.
	Mirific.
	It's in the dictionary.
	I'll have to look it up.
	Mirific.
	I like that.
	Wonderful or amazing.
	Mirific.
	Let's just start using that.
	Mirific.
	You might catch on.
	Yeah, mirific, my friend.
	I said my friend.
	Sorry.
	All right, let us thank people who have come in at the level of executive producer or associate executive producer.
	This is just like Hollywood, except they don't give us a script to read.
	They just support the work that we do.
	Yes, so you can find out about the bull crap everybody else does, and it's getting worse.
	That's brutal.
	It's getting worse, because you're bringing in stories from USA Today written by the guy that's behind the story?
	And he puts his magic circle word in there.
	And he never, by the way, when he's credited, do they have his attribution on there, or is it just some random writer?
	Let me double check.
	I'm pretty sure it just had, let me see, where is it?
	It was under, oh yeah, the SDR. Hold on.
	I think it was, I don't think they said at all that he would, because you would, I think you would need to say...
	You're supposed to put that on there.
	It should be founder of the OMF, CIC, whatever it was.
	Okay, it says, David Marsh, special for USAC. Let me go down to the bottom.
	Let me see.
	David Marsh is managing director of official monetary and financial institutions forum, a London think tank.
	So it does say it at the bottom.
	Okay, good.
	At least they didn't violate that rule.
	Okay.
	Wow.
	That's if anyone reads that.
	No, no one gives a crap.
	It should be actually on the byline itself at the top.
	That's like when someone says, full disclosure, I own stock in Google while I'm doing this show about Google.
	Full disclosure, like that excuses anything.
	It excuses nothing.
	And if I was in an ethics committee, I would demand that they put this attribution at the top.
	Right at the top, when you see his byline, you know what he's up.
	Call John Schwartz.
	John Schwartz?
	Yeah, isn't that the guy we know at USA Today?
	No, I know everybody at USA Today.
	We need a meeting with them.
	They're not going to...
	No meeting.
	They're not interested.
	All right.
	Stephen Dean, I want to thank a bunch of executive producers for today's show.
	I think it's Stephen.
	Stephen.
	Show 659.
	Stephen Dean on Oswego, Illinois.
	$870 is going to do some funny dollar combination for $666 or something, but decided to just finish my much-lagging knighthood instead.
	Wow.
	Way past due, but with three kids in between 18 and 6, money gets tight.
	Love you guys.
	Give yourself and everyone in the No Agenda Nation some karma.
	Please knight me as Sir Stephen of Oswego.
	Oswego.
	It's Oswego.
	Oswego, sorry.
	Well, Stephen, thank you so much, man.
	This is very nice.
	I'm going to put him in the 666 category as well.
	He should be a triple sixer for our...
	Yeah, we'll give him a triple six and a 14, what is it, 100 and something dollars extra.
	Let me get in the karma.
	Karma, best requested.
	You've got karma.
	And we will be knighting you, Stephen.
	Looking forward to it.
	Jason Berg in Portland, Oregon, 666.66.
	I just want to give some Boom Shakalaka karma to everyone out there.
	This is the second guy in a row who's had a big donation that's giving karma to the audience.
	That's nice, isn't it?
	Yeah, it's marific.
	Boom Shakalaka!
	Boom Shakalaka!
	You've got karma.
	He specifically asked for boom shakalaka, not bingo boom shakalaka, so I'm going to presume that's the kid.
	That would be the little girl.
	Yeah, kid.
	Little kid.
	You can do that again.
	I just think it's so funny.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	Let me roll it right back in.
	Hello, Nick's kid.
	Boom shakalaka!
	Boom shakalaka!
	He'll be making his donation for knighthood, which he doesn't need much more for, once he figures out what he wants his name to be.
	Oh, okay.
	Well, that makes sense.
	Now, Trevor Mudge came in from Ann Arbor, Michigan, for $600, and I looked and looked and looked and looked under every...
	His name under the university name, his last name, his TM name.
	For an email, you mean?
	Yeah.
	Did you get an email from him?
	I'm checking right now, going into the system.
	Man, we are...
	I have some Trevors, but none with that last name.
	No, no, no, no, no, no.
	All right.
	Nope.
	Nope.
	Trevor, if you've got something to tell us, send us another note.
	We'll do it on the next show.
	Ferdinand Becker in Arcadia, Florida, 34265.
	I did get a note from him in the email.
	Okay.
	Over the...
	Transom.
	Internets.
	Mm-hmm.
	And he says, Adam John in the morning to you.
	I sent my first installment through PayPal this week but failed to get my comments into the box before clicking the pay button.
	In any event, I want to say many thanks to both of you for the best podcast on the planet.
	It's the universe.
	I was notified of your show through a friend and I'm now hooked!
	It happens.
	I commute one hour to and from each day to a beautiful section of mostly uninhabited Southwest Florida, which is nice to drive through, where I can now catch up on each episode of your show in one hour blocks.
	Commuters beware.
	So we pretty much fulfill his entire week with six hours a week.
	Yeah.
	I'm to the point now where I put most of my calls directly to voicemail on my drive so as not to disturb my podcast.
	That pretty much sums it up.
	Thanks for taking the time to sift through all the BS for us.
	It's very refreshing.
	I only asked for one adios mofo in exchange for my first installment.
	And at some point he will be SirFoxTrotBravo.
	He's just warning everyone that nobody steal that.
	Okay.
	Adios, mofo.
	And her head is gone.
	All right.
	You got it.
	You didn't want that.
	But it's extra.
	It's a bonus.
	It's a bonus.
	Okay.
	Onward.
	He saw the head MF in charge.
	Head mofo in charge.
	I believe he's a knight.
	Oh yes, he is a knight, and he has donated significant amounts in the past, and now he's coming in with the magic numbers.
	33333 from Montpellier, Vermont.
	In the morning, please refer me as the HMFIC on the air.
	I just wanted to take a moment to let the No-A-Generation know that donating to the show and getting karma can save your life.
	Last month, gasoline vapors ignited in a large explosion while I was burning yard waste.
	The blast and fireball knocked me near unconscious, but I was able to realize my hair was on fire, and I put it out.
	Then notice that my clothes were on fire and rolling on the ground to put those out, which unfortunately ripped all the burned skin off my hand.
	Despite receiving second and third degree burns over my entire face, head and right hand, I was able to maintain my presence of mind thanks to military training and combat experience and call 911 for an ambulance in the fire department and even managed to put my dogs in their crates and lock up the house while waiting forever for an ambulance.
	Long story short, despite the severity of the burns and having to put...
	To be put under and intubated for transfer to a burn unit, I healed completely in two weeks with almost no disfigurement.
	Did you see the pictures in the email?
	No, I got you.
	Oh my goodness.
	Oh, actually I did, yeah.
	He was burned bad.
	Yeah, and the picture of him now is gone.
	I credit my guardian angel and my previous donation, in which I received the karma shot, which was apparently saved for this rainy day.
	There you have it, folks.
	No agenda karma can and will save your life and your face.
	Wow.
	If I hadn't been knocked unconscious, which I was on the verge of, I would have laid there and burned to death until my wife got home.
	And that's a day wrecker, let's face it.
	That's a day wrecker.
	So get off your asses, people, and donate!
	If the government can inundate us with fear porn to get more support for spending on defense, why not take a page from their playbook and get some donations for the show?
	The donation puts me over the threshold for knighthood I like to be knighted.
	Sir H-M-F-I-C. Knight of the U.S. Army.
	I thought he was already a knight.
	I guess I'm wrong.
	Well, he doesn't acknowledge that he was, so we have to assume he's not.
	Well, I'm going to give him some extra karma just in case something else happens between now and the next show.
	You've got karma.
	There you go, man.
	HMFIC! Oh, onward.
	Sir Hank in Kew Gardens in New York came with 23456, one of my favorite donations.
	He once said, just thank you for your courage and a karma shot, please.
	Absolutely, Sir Hank.
	Bingo, boom.
	You've got karma.
	Shakalaka.
	And finally, our last as an associate executive producer for show 659 is Ben Hink in Orland Park.
	I'm sorry, Ben's coming up later.
	Anonymous in Somewhere, Florida, which also came out 23456.
	Another duo, which is interesting.
	In the morning, Alex and Ged.
	I'm truly grateful for the media deconstruction.
	I have enclosed one of John's favorite amounts, 23456.
	All I ask for is a little girl fact.
	In isolation.
	I love that drop.
	He says he's in the business.
	Oh yeah.
	Thank you for your courage.
	Anonymous parts unknown.
	Let's try it.
	Fact!
	There you go.
	Happy to do it.
	Record it for his phone ring maybe.
	Fact!
	That's it.
	That's it.
	That's our group of executive, associate executive producers.
	We have more people coming up in the next break.
	And I want to thank them profusely.
	Remember, everybody, we do have a show coming up on Sunday.
	We need support for that at Dvorak.org slash NA. ChannelDvorak.com slash NA, which is down, so forget Channel Dvorak for the moment.
	So you can go to NoAgendaShow.com or NoAgendaNation.com and click on the donate button.
	And donate.
	And these are, of course, official credits.
	Executive producer, associate executive producer.
	You can put them anywhere where credits are recognized, including your IMDB and your LinkedIn.
	It seems to sex up the profile.
	You get lots of views.
	People going, hmm, it was a producer on this.
	And as John already said...
	Dvorak.org slash NA. And, of course, we would like you to continuously be out there finding people and propagating the formula.
	Our formula is this.
	We go out...
	We hit people in the mouth.
	Order.
	Order.
	Shut up, flame.
	Fear is freedom.
	Subjugation is liberation.
	Contradiction is truth.
	Those are the facts of this world.
	And you will all surrender to them.
	You pigs in human clothing.
	That's right.
	Resume normal activity, citizens.
	Resume normal activity.
	And someone in the chat room properly said that chicks dig producers.
	Thank you.
	Chicks dig producers.
	Chicks dig producers.
	I think they do.
	Yeah, I'm pretty sure they do.
	And I remember long ago when I first went to New York, when I was younger, when they had the big bar scene on the upper, first, second, and third.
	And it was a huge bar scene.
	And I remember going to one of these bars, listening to some of these bullcrap artists trying to pick up chicks in these bars, or pickup bars.
	And one of them had a bunch of CBS producer cards printed up.
	Yeah, I'm working for CBS. I'm a producer.
	Big shot, you know.
	If only I could find an unknown for my next project.
	You know.
	That kind of thing.
	And this was going on constantly.
	Oh, really?
	You really work for CBS? Okay.
	127.
	Perfect.
	Let me just grab my pen for a second.
	Ah.
	That's right.
	Oh, by the way, John?
	By the way.
	No, no, I can't.
	I'm sorry.
	I've been sworn to secrecy.
	It's about CBS. CBS. I'll tell you after the show.
	I can talk about it.
	Secret.
	Secret.
	That's secret.
	Big secret.
	Okay, so a lot of people tweeted this picture.
	It was a picture, but of course I need to play the audio for you.
	It is our medium that we spend a lot of effort making this a pleasurable experience to listen to.
	So when we can, we like to play the actual audio.
	And this is the Clash of the Memes.
	Which I believe is quite intentional in order to confuse the public and preoccupy and distract the public so you can think about nothing else.
	And when you start to look at these two memes next to each other, you can see the similarities and why it works so well.
	Only CNN could do this, but here they are with Dr.
	Garza.
	Dr.
	Alexander Garza is the Associate Dean at the St.
	Louis University College of Public Health and former medical officer at the Department of Homeland Security.
	Dr.
	Garza, if I may, because that is a bit of a chilling analogy that it's the ISIS of infectious agents.
	Does that mean it is that deadly, that dangerous, or that it needs to just be treated with the same kind of strategy?
	I think it's a little bit of both, Ashley.
	What?
	I know, it's beautiful.
	So he says, ISIS is the Ebola of infectious diseases.
	I mean, Ebola is the ISIS of infectious diseases.
	Then now he's going to explain how we treat ISIS and Ebola the same way.
	Mind you, the guy was at the Department of Homeland Security, so he's part of the pundit program.
	Then he's a shill, and he is meant to bring these two together.
	About Ebola as an agent that spreads throughout and kills innocent people, it's directly like ISIS, right?
	Yes, because it spreads amongst people and kills innocent people like a virus.
	And then he has the audacity...
	To put our right after it.
	It's directly like ISIS, right?
	It infects people and it kills people.
	And so the response, if we're calling this a national security issue, needs to be equivalent to if this was a form of terrorism, meaning we have to attack the problem overseas, like we do with terrorism and like the president is doing sending the military, but we also have to protect the homeland, screening passengers and doing all of those other efforts to protect the American public.
	Unbelievable.
	ISIS? Ebola?
	Same thing.
	Same thing.
	I got a lot of Ebola stuff if you want to do that, if you're interested.
	I would rather stay with the net right now, because I do have a bunch of clips, because I was watching Charlie Rose and they had this apologist on.
	Ah, is this the Panetta?
	No, no, this guy was the head of the National Counterterrorism Center.
	It just quit.
	Oh, Olson, Olson, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	I have a lot of little clips from him.
	This is the guy, if I recall correctly, who came in and he said that poverty creates lone wolves.
	Do you remember he wrote a book about it?
	He said a lot of strange things, but he seems to me, after listening to this interview, which was so scripted, and this guy is a little weak because he doesn't do a lot of these, I guess, that Charlie Rose was feeding him the answers constantly.
	Charlie's good that way.
	No, he's really good that way.
	When I was watching this particular interview where Charlie is, he's just all in and he's feeding him.
	No, no, now you say this, now you say it.
	No, no, no, no.
	What about this?
	Isn't that right?
	Now I realize that Charlie is at CBS on that morning show beating himself to death, by the way.
	But he's making, you know, you make like $10 million or plus on those morning shows if you are the head guy.
	12, 14 million is not unheard of.
	And this is his reward, because you don't make money working for PBS, even if you're producing your own thing.
	You might as well do a podcast.
	I mean, it's just no money.
	You make some money, and it's very prestigious, but you don't make the money you really want.
	You can go on speaking tours.
	You can talk around the country.
	Yeah, that's more work.
	Why is Charlie Rose doing the CBS morning show?
	He wants to cash in and cash out.
	I'm saying from a producer's perspective, why would you put him...
	He's not...
	He looks like crap in the morning.
	He's old.
	Well, he has prestige.
	Okay, because they have Gale.
	So they have Gale, who is Oprah's clam bumper.
	I don't know why I said that.
	I apologize.
	They have Gail Shepard, who is not a journalist as far as I know, but okay, she's now on The Morning Show.
	You need a seasoned veteran who...
	It's like Kurt Loder.
	MTV felt they needed some credibility, and they brought in Kurt Loder, the guy who wrote for Rolling Stone and wrote the book I, Tina, and makes a mean-ass margarita at 10 in the morning.
	Well, Charlie Rose may also make a mean-ass margarita at 10 in the morning, for all we know.
	But it seems to me that you put this guy in that job as a reward to him.
	Ah, okay.
	That's what I'm thinking.
	I gotcha.
	He's been on board forever.
	And here's an example, because he's got this Matthew Olson on there.
	I have a bunch of clips, and you listen.
	And he's sent for all practical purposes.
	He is giving us a briefing on everything that's happened from the intelligence perspective and how it's going to be better and everything's fine.
	Don't worry about it.
	And so let's start with a couple of the questions and answers that he asked.
	So the audience for Charlie Rose, the public broadcasting audience, will be, oh, okay, I feel a lot better now.
	Snowden's an asshole.
	Yeah.
	So let's start with the Olsen Report.
	NSA will catch up.
	Okie dokie.
	Directive, you know, there was a presumption of, you know, that that was something you could get cooperation.
	And I think that's changed.
	They push back now and say, unless you can prove that I'm forced to do this, I'm not doing it.
	Right.
	And that's harmful for our...
	Is that their attitude?
	You know, I don't want to be too generalizing about it, but I think we've definitely seen examples of that.
	But going back to your question about the NSA director, I mean, look, I worked at NSA. It's a really extraordinary organization.
	And my sense is that they will work day and night to overcome these obstacles.
	And they have really brilliant people, mathematicians, computer scientists, analysts.
	And they will, over time, be able to make up for the ground we've lost.
	But it's going to take time.
	Nice.
	Now, the next thing he goes into is cyber mercenaries, which I never heard of.
	But cyber mercenaries, and if you listen to this clip carefully, you're going to...
	There is a message in here, which I'll explain after he's done talking.
	But Rose starts leading him a little bit, but this is a very...
	In fact, I think Olsen wants to get this point across twice, so he says...
	Now, the traditional...
	Definition of a mercenary is someone you hire to go in and who has no affiliation political or morally and just go in and kill these people.
	Right.
	And I think he's using the term properly here.
	You know, when you look at the power of cyber warfare, and then you think about governments, and you think about people in the private sector that are related to governments and all that, it's a powerful threat, it seems to me.
	And then you ask yourself, what if it...
	It came within the possibility of the kinds of groups that we have talked about for most of this conversation.
	Right.
	It's a really important question.
	And we spend a fair amount of time within the counterterrorism community talking about, have we seen a cyber capability among these groups?
	Look, I mean, they're dead set on coming after us.
	If they had that capability, they would...
	They would use it.
	They would deploy it against us.
	And we know the power of cyber attacks.
	Again, now, going after financial institutions like the one you mentioned, and how vulnerable we are, and how reliant we are on these systems that are internet-based.
	But at least right now, Al-Qaeda and these groups don't have that capability within their means.
	That's not to say that they couldn't develop them or that they couldn't recruit or pay somebody who does have that capability to act on their behalf.
	And that's what's really different.
	When you go into Mosul and you empty the banks and you can sell oil, what they're doing as well, selling oil.
	That's right.
	They're quite sophisticated.
	So they're selling oil.
	They're generating, what do they say, a million or so dollars a day.
	That's right.
	Then you can afford a lot of very sophisticated computer equipment.
	Right.
	Or, you know, even easier to pay sort of a mercenary cyber attacker to carry out an attack.
	And so, you know, one way is to try to figure out who they are and where they are and stop them there.
	But the other important part of that is to increase our cyber defenses here in the United States.
	And, you know, particularly in the types of industries and sectors that are really important to our way of life, from banking to energy and the like.
	And so that's another part of what NSA has been involved in and I worked on when I was at MSA. Interesting.
	Now, what he said in the subtext to me was there's going to be a cyber attack done by a cyber mercenary.
	He brought it up twice.
	Yeah.
	Imminent.
	Yeah.
	And he used the term twice.
	I think there's going to be a new initiative about cyber mercenaries.
	They're going to start going after people that could be cyber mercenaries, and that includes the tech community that we have currently working.
	It includes dudes named Ben.
	It includes dudes named Ben.
	It includes the sysops out there.
	I think they're all going to be targeted to be spied on, all of them, which is a good portion of our audience.
	And you should keep an eye out, you out there who could be targeted, you should keep an eye out for it.
	You're gonna see it.
	Because they're going to start, because there is going to be an event, obviously, or you wouldn't have said it twice, that's going to involve a cyber attack that will fend off, and it's going to be initiated by cyber mercenaries, because these guys, as he said, even though they're quite sophisticated and they can sell oil on the open market somehow, and we can't, for some unknown reason, we can't stop that.
	I don't know why, but we can't.
	And that's selling, it's not like they're standing on a corner, right?
	Hey, wants to buy some oil!
	No.
	This is done in...
	It's all electronic.
	It's all on the computer.
	On the oil markets.
	And they do business.
	We can put a stop to it.
	Easily.
	But we're not doing that because this is bull crap.
	And we have gas now at $2.99 a gallon in Texas.
	Good for you.
	But I haven't seen that, and that can only be explained by the oil flowing.
	Right.
	Well, this also was backed up quite a bit to jack up the prices for summertime.
	Summer driving.
	You want to jack those prices.
	Just a dude they can.
	Just a good thing.
	You're going to get arrested.
	Now there is a short bit here.
	This is the Bergdahl commentary.
	Now I'm looking at everything this guy is saying at this point, along with what Rose is telling him to say.
	If you notice, Rose is leading him a lot.
	This will be the official commentary about the Bergdahl incident.
	Now remind us who Bergdahl is for a moment.
	Bergdahl was a guy who deserted his company in Afghanistan to join the Taliban.
	And he went over there and they said, you're not joining us.
	You're going to be our hostage.
	Or possibly it was a spook that went over there to have that exact thing happen to him.
	We don't know.
	And then they traded to get him back four extremely nasty terrorists that were in Gitmo, including the guy that used to run the drug operation in Afghanistan.
	And my suspicion was they put that guy back in play.
	Keep that rolling.
	Keep that rolling.
	The drug thing going that was a quid pro quo is that you run the drugs, we'll take care of the middleman operations.
	Interestingly enough, there was a report, and I think it was Council on Foreign Relations, I don't have it, I'll see if I can find it for the show notes, that said specifically they expect heroin to be flooding the streets of the United Kingdom now that the forces are pulling out of Afghanistan.
	But of course it's because they let the guy go who's in charge of the government.
	Yeah, the guy could do the job.
	Yeah, operations.
	And you crank it up.
	We weren't doing a very good job ourselves.
	We're trying.
	And by the way, the citizens are happy.
	Cheap horse, come on.
	What's the problem?
	Cheap horse.
	They're really nothing at this point.
	Two other things.
	One is Bergdahl.
	When we made the exchange from Bergdahl, we took five people from Guantanamo and went and sent them to Doha, right?
	Right.
	Does that bother you?
	No, I mean, I think.
	You're the counterterrorist business.
	You're worried about people who make men terrorist acts.
	Yeah, so I'm always concerned whenever there's a potential for another terrorist being out there.
	These guys were transferred under pretty strict controls and were in a position to maintain that.
	It's hard to argue with getting an American back.
	It's hard to argue with that.
	Hard to argue with that.
	It's just a great deal.
	Meanwhile, there's a guy stuck in Mexico that we don't do anything about.
	Don't even talk about him.
	No.
	And it could be taken care of with a couple phone calls.
	Alright, so we have a couple more.
	There's a report on Benghazi I want to save.
	It's too long, but it was kind of interesting because it just was a weird, and I used the word there, but it was a strange moment that he went on and on about.
	Of all the places where you can play long clips, our show is this.
	Say that for last because I want to play this one first.
	There's two of these Corazon ones.
	Corazon.
	Horazon.
	Horazon.
	Now, this is the Olsen report on the Horazon Group out of the blue that we talked about on a couple of shows.
	Horazon Group?
	Are they now being a partnership?
	Oh, okay.
	I just want to make sure you play that clip first.
	One of the groups that has been in the news lately is the Horazon Group.
	They received an airstrike and they evidently had some plot against it.
	He talks about like it's an Amazon Prime package.
	They received an airstrike.
	They received an airstrike and it's part of a plot.
	It's some unknown plot.
	I love it.
	They received an airstrike.
	Hey, honey, did you receive the airstrike yet?
	We're expecting one.
	One of the groups that has been in the news lately is the Coruscant Group.
	They've talked a lot about that.
	They received an airstrike and they evidently had some plot against the United States.
	An active plot.
	Yeah, and this is a group.
	Yeah, right.
	We've been following this group for a couple years.
	This is a group.
	There you have.
	They're not ISIL. They're not.
	They're different.
	They're old Al-Qaeda, aren't they?
	They are veteran Al-Qaeda.
	Did he say old Al-Qaeda?
	Yeah, they're old Al-Qaeda.
	He's trying to get that in there.
	Apparently, you've got a talking points thing.
	You've got to get the Al-Qaeda mentioned.
	Old Al-Qaeda.
	Old Al-Qaeda.
	They are veteran Al-Qaeda guys out of Pakistan and that region who have moved to Syria because of the permissive environment in Syria, taken advantage of their relationship with al-Nusra, really to provide sort of cover and support.
	But the issue there is that they have had an external focus.
	They are not...
	They're focused on Assad or the regime in Syria.
	They're focused on carrying out an external attack.
	Against us.
	Against the United States and the West.
	And that plot we saw progressing and that was the impetus for the strikes there.
	Now, so that, when you asked me, Charlie, what worries me the most, in the last several months it's been that group because of their sophistication and their focus on the West and in particular on the United States.
	And the Wikipedia page started September 21st.
	Yeah.
	Just like a month ago, not less than a month ago, this page showed up.
	Bullshit!
	Now, he says that the airstrikes were aimed at these jokers, and he also says...
	At the very end, he says, what worries me the most is this horizon group.
	That's what he says.
	Now, this was the end of a very long conversation that I cut the middle out of because it was going to go on forever.
	And I want to play the beginning of this clip about what worries him the most.
	And this is what he says at the beginning of what worries me the most.
	And it turns out to be something else.
	So he lost track of his own.
	That's why Charlie had to be there.
	This guy could not keep a steady thought.
	What worries you the most?
	Hmm.
	Well, what worries me the most has been the, we've talked about it, the, you know, sort of the aviation targets that groups like AQAP have shown an enduring interest in.
	No, that's not the right answer.
	And the targeting of planes with bombs, crotch bombs.
	And then Charlie goes on and leads him back to where we're supposed to be talking about, which worries him the most is the horizon group.
	And her head is gone.
	That's funny.
	So I've got a kick out.
	Now, if you want to hear the Benghazi thing, this is where he goes.
	Charlie brings him into the...
	And Charlie, being a journalist, should be better than this.
	He says, what was all the fuss about?
	Why is everybody...
	Who gives a crap, essentially, is the question.
	I said that again, sorry.
	It was the question that he asked, and it's like, why is he asking this?
	Okay, let's listen to the official response.
	The guy really can't answer the question, and we're still in the dark about...
	About the Benghazi thing, except for the thesis that the No Agenda show has, which was a failed kidnapping that was screwed up by a dual operation when the CIA was doing something at the same time.
	Benghazi, Benghazi, Benghazi.
	And finally, Benghazi.
	Now you laugh.
	Back it up.
	Because now it's time for the big bullcrap.
	He laughs at this question, which is a serious question.
	Whenever they know something, if they're not discussing it, let's just do the bullcrap for the people here.
	And finally, Benghazi.
	Why is it such a controversy, you think?
	I mean, did the administration fail to say clearly and specifically this was a terrorist attack?
	Tell me about the sexuality.
	It's in your DNA. For whatever reason.
	I think you have to ask other people why it's such a controversy.
	It's been something I've wondered myself.
	I mean, within a week after Benghazi, I was in an open hearing, and I said this was a terrorist attack.
	Absolutely.
	But they shot mortars at a CIA annex in Benghazi, right?
	So you knew it instantly?
	Washington, D.C. The night it happened, I was on a secure video conference led by the White House.
	All the security team was on that conference call, video conference.
	We all were treating it, this is a terrorist attack.
	There was no sense that this was anything other than that.
	Now, we did have multiple, upwards of 20 different reports from the press and from social media and classified sources.
	Social media.
	Some type of demonstration or protest.
	Remember, this was after the release of that video.
	Oh, that video, yes.
	That was a really frightening, insulting video.
	The video.
	This is, again, an example of bringing something into play.
	That has been completely debunked a million times.
	Yes, but you bring it back into play as though it's true, and most people never heard.
	There's a shut up moment.
	There were protests starting in Cairo.
	And there was a protest in Cairo, and there were protests all over, and we heard that now.
	So there wasn't...
	They were everywhere!
	That's right, protests everywhere.
	The New York Times said, this is true, it's fact.
	Bill Meyer said, this is true, it's fact.
	That was in fact the case.
	It wasn't until sometime later.
	And of course, Chris Stevens, he died of smoke inhalation, according to Eleanor Clift, not of being dragged through the street, being sodomized with a broom handle, and killed in a horrific way.
	None of that is mentioned ever.
	No.
	And there's pictures of this.
	Later that we learned that, in fact, there hadn't been a protest.
	But the protest point was...
	I wonder sometime later, maybe.
	Well, I think it was within about a week or ten days later.
	Oh, something like that.
	Whatever, it gives a shit.
	Well, we had certain information coming in.
	But I'm confused, so let me solve my confusion.
	One, you said we're all sitting there like the night of the attack.
	Yeah.
	And we're all saying this is a terrorist attack.
	Yeah.
	I mean, we absolutely treated it as a terrorist attack.
	I mean, we didn't even have to articulate it, Charlie.
	It wasn't something that needed to be spoken.
	Hold on a second.
	You didn't have to articulate it.
	No.
	But they all knew it was a terrorist attack.
	They never said it was.
	Earlier he said, we said it was a terrorist attack.
	I said it was a terrorist attack.
	Then they didn't have to articulate it.
	So the story's falling apart.
	And also, there's a timeline issue here.
	And this is where Charlie calls time out to reset this character so he can get back on the right timeline so the explanation goes through.
	This is a fail, by the way.
	He doesn't explain anything, and it doesn't work.
	Anyway, go on.
	And we're all saying this is a terrorist attack.
	Yeah.
	I mean, we actually treated it as a terrorist attack.
	I mean, we didn't even have to articulate it, Charlie.
	It wasn't something that needed to be spoken.
	We treated it as...
	I mean, it was the National Counterterrorism Center, and we were involved in working on it, right?
	So we were...
	Well, then why did the U.S. government go out and say, this was a terrorist attack?
	Yeah.
	You know, frankly, I don't think it was really a question that we considered to be an open issue.
	And so it almost struck me as, when I was asked that question in that hearing, well, of course it was a terrorist attack.
	Now, not all terrorist attacks are the same.
	That was not the language that Susan Rice used when she appeared on the Sunday evening.
	Yeah.
	I mean, again, not all terrorist attacks are the same.
	You know, there are attacks that take months and months of planning and are sophisticated.
	But this one was not sophisticated.
	There's still no indication that it was planned.
	But it did not arise from a...
	Apparently there hadn't been a protest.
	And that was a...
	We thought there was a protest.
	And in fact, there hadn't been.
	But...
	We didn't think there was a protest.
	This guy needs to go away for a long time.
	He's retired.
	And so, to your initial question, why the controversy?
	I really don't understand the controversy over now.
	It's a pleasure to meet you.
	Yeah, it's nice to be here, Charlie.
	Yeah, nice to meet you.
	And good luck in the private sector.
	Thank you very much.
	Yeah, I'm going to get fucking rich, motherfucker!
	You're leaving a very exciting life behind.
	Yeah, well, I'm going to stay engaged in these issues.
	To get even richer!
	Get richer!
	At Harvard Law School next semester.
	And then I'm going to...
	Then I'm going to go get rich!
	I'm going to find some more connected to these issues.
	Good.
	Thank you.
	Thank you very much.
	Thank you very much.
	Hey, suck this, douche.
	Anyway.
	Douchebag.
	I'm a douchebag.
	All right, then I get to play a douchebag.
	Okay, well, yeah, I got bunches of douchebags on my list.
	I think it's not a bunch of douchebags.
	It's a...
	Is it a gaggle?
	It's got a name for it.
	It's like a...
	Gaggle of douchebags?
	A flock of douche.
	A flock of douche.
	A murder of douchebags.
	No, you don't want to.
	It's not good.
	Well, this clip is Morrific.
	And it is...
	Brolf...
	With Dutch Ruppersberger.
	And it is also a long clip.
	That guy for a while.
	It is a long clip.
	He is the worst, that guy.
	But he is the chair.
	He's a Democrat.
	He's the chair of the Intelligence something or other.
	No, no.
	He is the second to the chair of the Republic.
	I think Dutch is in the House of Representatives.
	Because...
	Feinstein's the chair on the Senate side, because it's run by the Democrats, and then on the Republican side is the House, the House run by the Republicans, and so I think Dutch works with the...
	He is the ranking member of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence.
	Let me see who's on that.
	Fellow DJ, up-and-coming disc jockey Mike Rogers.
	And he gets pulled in to...
	It was just mind-boggling.
	What do you make, first of all, of this guy that the FBI now wants with this North American accent as it's described?
	Do they have any clue who this individual might be?
	Well, we're trying to get information, and what's really positive about the FBI putting this out...
	You have to stop.
	I have the intro to this story clip that will set this up perfectly.
	Yeah, I have the same clip, but I'll play it.
	From Megan Kelly?
	Uh, no.
	No, I don't.
	Megyn Kelly...
	Megyn Kelly?
	Brown nosing or the FBI asking?
	The FBI asking.
	It's alright.
	By developing tonight, the FBI has put out a new plea for the public's help in identifying what may be an American who appeared in a recent ISIS recruitment video.
	We first brought you this video on the Kelly file less than two weeks ago.
	Listen to the man speak.
	We're here.
	In the 17th Division military base just outside the city of Araqqa.
	Araqqa!
	And we're here with the soldiers of Bashar.
	Captain Harajar, Chief Intelligence Correspondent, is live in Washington tonight.
	And then we have Catherine come on.
	Our CIA mole.
	Yeah.
	Megan, since we first reported the story for your broadcast, we've learned that a biometric and facial recognition analysis, the evidence points to an American likely from the Midwest.
	He's got a black mask on.
	Facial recognition.
	Though a Canadian has not been ruled out.
	A law enforcement source says other leads were pursued before the FBI made the decision to post this ISIS propaganda and launch the tip line.
	We need to post the propaganda!
	Yay!
	Yeah, that's why it's called propaganda.
	This terrorist is confirmed to be an American.
	It will be the first documented case of a U.S. citizen engaging in a mass execution for the ISIS terror network.
	Stop right there.
	I watched this Flames of War, 53 minutes of this thing.
	Did you see this?
	No.
	Bullshit!
	At the very end, this guy...
	So they have these so-called Assad fighters digging their own grave.
	And then they're kneeling in front of the trench.
	And they shoot them.
	And it is fake, John.
	Again, it's fake.
	They fade to black.
	They come back.
	Now, you can find online people being shot where they're kneeling down in the back of the head.
	And you see blood spurting out the front, and then when they're on the ground, their face is gone.
	None of this.
	None of this.
	This is another fake video.
	Look at the very end of this video.
	No one was killed.
	The FBI wants tips from the public on any American who is traveling overseas to join terrorists.
	And you'll remember, Megan, that propaganda video Flames of War also included the voice of a second man with a North American accent.
	Yeah, yeah.
	I got that audition, but I didn't get it.
	Seasoned investigators tonight question whether ISIS may be learning from its mistakes.
	It's now widely reported that the executioner, first seen in this horrific video of journalist James Foley's murder, is a British national.
	And the new tapes may be doctored to shield the terrorists.
	ISIS, ISIS, baby.
	Now all of this is very strange because Mr.
	Comey, our banker, former military industrial complex douche knuckle extraordinaire, who says right all the time, he was very clear about the American jihadis.
	How many Americans are fighting in Syria on the side of the terrorists?
	In the area of a dozen or so.
	Do you know who they are?
	Yes.
	Okay, he knows who they are!
	But yet we don't know who they are because each and every one of them.
	What?
	We either know who they are or they don't know who they are.
	Well, hold on, hold on, hold on.
	I think of that dozen or so I do.
	I hesitate only because I don't know what I don't know.
	That is just, this is our government.
	That sounds like a bomb Hogan.
	Yes, but everybody is now saying this.
	I don't know what I don't know, what I don't know.
	This, I think, could be one of the most important things.
	That we don't know that we don't know.
	Right?
	There's the stuff that you know you don't know, and there's the stuff that you know that you know, and there's the stuff that you don't know that you know.
	But the most destructive can be the stuff that you don't know that you don't know.
	Because I don't know what I don't know.
	This is so ridiculous.
	It's like you ran out to center field and caught the ball over your head.
	With my eyes closed and one leg strapped up to my butt.
	Great catch.
	Yeah, thank you.
	So we're going to hear that a lot.
	Now let's go back to Brolf with Dutch.
	After the public, we're trying to get any information or tips that we can to try to identify this individual.
	Remember, ISIS is out there recruiting.
	Remember, remember, remember, remember, remember.
	And when they can recruit Americans.
	And this guy is good because he didn't say, don't forget.
	He said, remember.
	And when someone says, remember, you remember.
	You know, you can ask, you can wake me up in the middle of the night and you say, what is ISIS doing?
	I'll say, recruiting.
	FBI putting this out to the public.
	We're trying to get any information or tips that we can to try to identify this individual.
	Remember, ISIS is out there recruiting.
	And when they can recruit Americans or Canadians who have American or Canadian passports, those individuals can go to Syria or other places in the world and come back to the United States.
	And if they haven't broken the law, all we can do is monitor them.
	And this is another thing.
	This is what Comey also said.
	Well, they haven't broken the law.
	We know who they are.
	We'll just follow them.
	Well, I got nothing to worry about, I guess.
	To make sure that they're not planning an attack here in the United States.
	So they're looking at his eyes, they're looking at his voice, they're trying to do some recognition, but I take it they really hope maybe someone who's watching and listening to that voice, seeing that image, might be able to provide a tip.
	That's right.
	Isn't that right, Congressman?
	Isn't that right?
	Isn't that right?
	It's in the script.
	Isn't that right?
	In the United States, we have said over and over, if you see anything unusual, call your local police, call your state police, call your FBI. And that's what we're seeking.
	He's not doing it right!
	If you see something, see!
	He messed up on that.
	That information, and hopefully it will make a difference.
	You know, it happened in the Boston bomber.
	It happened in the Boston bomber.
	The guy is now incoherent.
	It happened in the Boston bomber.
	What happened in the Boston bomber?
	Something in his butt?
	Anything unusual.
	Call your local police.
	Call your state police.
	Call your FBI. And that's what we're seeking, that information.
	And hopefully it will make a difference.
	You know, it...
	And listen to the subliminal, because they've got the video of this guy in the background, and you hear the alak bar and all this crap going on.
	In the Boston bomber, we needed to identify those individuals, and we got tips and information, and that helped us identify those two individuals.
	Wait a minute!
	I thought you had a video that showed you put the guy putting the thing in the trash bin.
	Well, that we're going to start to forget about.
	Remember, can you tell us about Mohammed Hamza Khan, the 19-year-old kid?
	This is good.
	Because this is Ruppersberger with Brof.
	They sum up everything.
	The whole, every bullcrap thing.
	I think we're seeing a lot of this on the different networks we just saw with Charlie Rose.
	They're trying to send out a consistent story for the public.
	Yeah.
	We don't know what we don't know.
	The teenager, if you will, from the Chicago area was arrested at Chicago's O'Hare International Airport over the weekend, suspected of being a supporter of ISIS. What can you tell us about this individual?
	Do you know, for example, how he got $4,000 to buy a round-trip ticket from Chicago to Vienna and then on to Istanbul?
	I love being suspected of being a supporter of ISIS. How did he get $4,000 hand jobs?
	I don't know.
	I don't know all those details.
	What I do know, it was really good investigative work done by our locals and our FBI to monitor individuals that were concerned that want to do damage.
	Get ready.
	He's going to go all out and hurt the United States.
	And as a result of the information and the evidence, because he's an American and because of the evidence he received, we had to make sure that we were able to get that evidence in order to be able to arrest him.
	They have no evidence.
	They have no evidence.
	They did nothing wrong.
	They have evidence to arrest him because he bought a round-trip ticket, which, of course, was used to confuse people because a one-way ticket is a clear code.
	This is stupid.
	We know we have 12 Americans that are in Syria right now.
	This is the messaging.
	Being trained and working with ISIS. Those individuals can come to the United States.
	Why don't we call them the Dirty Dozen?
	That would be cool.
	...states with a passport, and unless they've broken the law, all we can do is monitor them.
	This is a big concern to all of us in the intelligence community.
	And this makes no sense.
	They arrest people for selling raw milk.
	Are you kidding me?
	Oh, unless they do something wrong, we can't arrest them.
	When did this start?
	When did we start respecting people's rights?
	This makes no sense.
	This makes no sense with what's been going on.
	No, it does not fit because it's a lie.
	...about this type of threat.
	I assume, though, those 12 individuals, the FBI, law enforcement in the United States knows the names of those 12 individuals, right?
	There are 12 that we know, but there are other ones that we're concerned that we don't know.
	Oh, we don't know.
	We don't know.
	We don't know.
	We just don't know the don't know.
	And that's why we have to be vigilant.
	Vigilant.
	And they throw in, listen to this, and he throws in an alawak bar in the background while he's talking about these, what we don't know.
	This is nuts.
	We're concerned that we don't know.
	And that's why we have to be vigilant.
	And remember, the intelligence is the best defense against terrorists.
	Terrible!
	That's in the background.
	They're showing video of a bunch of guys going all out.
	The intelligence is the best defense against terrorism.
	And this is a very serious issue.
	And we're doing whatever we can.
	We have the best intelligence in the world.
	But we also have to follow Americans' constitutional rights in whatever we do.
	I wonder what you know about these four individuals who were arrested yesterday in London.
	We're getting everything.
	This is a perfect, perfect roundup.
	Suspected of being ISIS supporters and supposedly, according to a whole bunch of reports, planning on publicly beheading individuals in the United Kingdom.
	Because it works so well in Australia.
	Can you tell us about that?
	Well, it's the same scenario.
	Oh, that's right.
	Scenario written by scriptwriters.
	You know, the Brits, we work with the Brits and our other...
	Brits.
	Brits.
	What is this?
	Brits.
	Hey, Brit.
	Hey, you Brit.
	...allies to get intelligence to try to identify these terrorist groups that want to attack us.
	And by the way, it's just not ISIS. Oh, hold on.
	It's not just ISIS. Let's just broaden the field.
	ISIS is really...
	We need to write this down.
	I'm confused now.
	I'm not supposed to be afraid of ISIS. What am I doing?
	They have a billion dollars, John!
	ISIS has a billion dollars.
	Just so you know that.
	That's news to me.
	And remember, remember, ISIS has a billion dollars.
	Let's listen again.
	We're able to try to stop them.
	But in the meantime, we have to realize ISIS has close to a billion dollars.
	They have social media.
	They have social media, John!
	We're lost!
	We're screwed!
	They have social media and a billion dollars!
	If Facebook has more than that...
	They are recruiting as we speak.
	They're trying to get Americans, Canadians, French to join ISIS. And especially if they have passports so they can go back and forth to their countries without being noticed.
	And they keep learning the passports.
	Especially the Canadian jihadis.
	They don't have no passports.
	They burned them.
	If you come from Libya or other parts of the world, you need to be able to have a visa to get into these different countries.
	But when you have a passport, you don't.
	And that really concerns us all.
	Which is a greater threat.
	Whoa, whoa, whoa, back up!
	What?
	So you're telling me, Dutch, that I can go anywhere I want if I have a passport, but if I don't have a passport, I need a visa?
	That's not the way it works.
	Passports so they can go back and forth to their countries without being noticed.
	You know, if you come from Libya or other parts of the world, you need to be able to have a visa to get into these different countries.
	But when you have a passport, you don't.
	That's not true in any way.
	That's correct.
	You're absolutely right.
	He's cutting it short.
	I think what he's trying to say is that you can, if you have, if you're a German national, as an example, you can come back into the country with a passport, not needing a visa if you're a Libyan national.
	But he's just rattling off words at this point.
	Yeah, you're probably right.
	And that really concerns us all.
	Let's just wind it up with the final thing that Brolf needs to promote in this Smith-Munt propaganda.
	Which is a greater threat to the U.S. homeland, Congressman, right now?
	ISIS or this al-Qaeda spinoff called the Coruscant Group?
	Now, what should the answer be?
	Oh, well, this is a tough one, it seems to me.
	If you're going to ask me what he's going to say here, I'm going to have trouble answering, but I'm going to have to go with the litany that everybody else is saying, which is the Corazon group is much more dangerous.
	Corazon group is very serious.
	We have no evidence at this point, or let's say intelligence.
	We have no evidence, I mean intelligence, oops.
	At this point, that ISIS is ready to attack us.
	You are right, Corazon group.
	Within a month or so.
	A month or so.
	Oh, let's wait until December, I guess.
	We are concerned about groups like Corzine, who do research and development, who are trying to develop.
	Oh, they do research and development?
	They're a company.
	They work for Microsoft.
	They develop bombs, plastic bombs that they can put in iPhones.
	Oh, I'm sorry, they work for Apple.
	They can put in iPads.
	Oh, no, iPhones.
	Plastic bombs they can put in an iPads?
	You can't even open an iPhone.
	I'm calling it right now.
	The new iPhone 6 Plus.
	It's filled with plastic explosives.
	Yeah, perfect size.
	That's why it's so big.
	And they should be confiscated.
	So they can pass through a TSA and not be identified.
	I love his technical jargon.
	Now we're going back to boot your phone when you get on the plane.
	No, you already have to do that.
	I had to boot my laptop.
	Okay, well I had...
	When we're done with this clip, I'll tell you my recent airport experience and experiment.
	Corzine Group is very serious.
	We have no evidence at this point, or let's say intelligence at this point, that ISIS is ready to attack us within a month or so.
	We are concerned about groups like Corzine.
	Who do research and development, who are trying to develop bombs, plastic bombs that they can put in iPhones or they can put in iPads so they can pass through a TSA and not be identified.
	And then it seems that Al-Qaeda still attempts to focus on airplanes and blowing up airplanes.
	So I would say right now they're all a danger and ISIS clearly has to be stopped.
	But on the other hand, these other terrorist groups, I think, are further ahead in their plans to attack the United States.
	ISIS is still in that region and holding land, and even though they're threatening everybody, but that's also to recruit other people in their desire to take over that area of the world.
	And we have got to stop them and smash them.
	Smash them!
	We have to smash them.
	We've gone from degrade and ultimately destroy to just smash them.
	You've got to smash them.
	Eric DeShiel came up with an interesting thesis about, you know, The honeypot theory at a different level, which is that you have this guy, can you identify this madman who's got the mask on with the North American accent?
	Right.
	And the conversation goes, you call in, and he says, yeah, I think I know who it is.
	Okay, your name is...
	And you know him how?
	How?
	Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Heard him say this when?
	Then you have the knock on the door.
	Well, now what is interesting is that now we have to look at the global spectrum of what is taking place.
	And of course, This ultimately comes down to control of the citizens, and we're playing a backdoor strategy, I believe, in the United States, which will come through net neutrality.
	That's how laws about how certain content will be deemed unlawful, but it's all in the legislation.
	It's all in the rules.
	Our show will become unlawful.
	I think it's a possibility.
	But in the United Kingdoms of Gitmo Nation East and in Australia, which blew me away, I need to play this little clip for you.
	This is from the Parliament in Australia.
	A bill, and I have it marked up, so I do want to read just a few pieces from this, the National Security Legislation Amendment Bill No.
	1 of 2014, a bill for an act to amend the law relating to national security and intelligence services and for What happened to you?
	Where is Crocodile Dundee?
	First you let them take your guns away, and then, well, just listen to some dissenting words in Parliament.
	Understandably, the media has made much in recent days of the notorious Section 35, which would make it an offence punishable by up to 10 years' imprisonment for a journalist if he or she was to disclose a special intelligence operation.
	But that will have the effect of shutting down the media.
	It is clearly overreached by the security services who've been basically invited to write an open cheque.
	And the government, that wants to beat its chest and look tough on national security, said, we'll sign that.
	And the opposition, who's desperate to look just as strong on national security, said, we'll countersign that cheque too.
	Even though no one has actually made the case that there's even a requirement for such a measure in this bill.
	You know, in some ways this is a distraction.
	It's another distraction from the fact that our heightened security environment is a result of us helping to start a war that has run for 11 and a half years.
	That has fomented more turmoil in the Middle East and caused more angst within our own community.
	Perhaps it distracts us from the fact that we were until recently giving broad diplomatic support to the Syrian rebels that included the Islamic State.
	And now all of a sudden the Islamic State's gone from being one of the, I think to quote the Prime Minister's or words to the effect of the Prime Minister, one of the goodies to one of the baddies.
	I mean, this is outrageous.
	This is absolutely outrageous.
	Well, you're all screwed.
	Here we go.
	Section 4, insert into the Australian Security Intelligence Organization Act of 1979, an ASIO affiliate, so now they're expanding their group, means a person performing functions or services for the organization in accordance with a contract agreement or other arrangement.
	That includes a person engaged under Section 85 and a person performing services under an agreement under Section 87.
	This means that pretty much anybody can be brought in as a contractor and automatically be protected as an ASIO affiliate, be protected for being...
	You cannot out these people, which goes back to this gentleman's earlier point of the media not being able to disclose this.
	Then we have...
	Interceptions.
	The interception of a communication, whereas the interception results from or is incidental to action taken by an ASIO affiliate in accordance, so that could be anybody, in accordance with the contract, that could be with a phone company, agreement or other arrangement under which the ASIO affiliate is performing functions or services for the organization for the purpose of discovering whether a listening device is being used.
	So they can check to see, they can listen to your communications to see if It's being listened to, which is great.
	And determining the location of a listening device.
	They really have gone all out on this.
	They have added transitional provisions for the Telecommunications Interception and Access Act of 1979, where they have terms and definitions.
	You understand what's going on.
	I just want to give you the definitions.
	Okay, communication in transit.
	So they can eavesdrop on communication in transit.
	Inserted definition means a communication passing over a telecommunications network.
	Well, bingo, boom, shakalaka.
	Definition of computer means all or part of one or more computers or one or more computer systems or one or more computer networks or any combination of the above.
	That would pretty much be the internet.
	A device, which they are allowed to eavesdrop on, includes instrument, apparatus, and equipment.
	Enhancement equipment.
	An identified person's warrant, where they can install the definition of installation of a listening device includes attach and apply, listening device definition, any device capable of being used, whether alone or in conjunction with any other device, to overhear, record, monitor, or listen to sounds, signals, or a conversation, or words spoken to or by any person in conversation, but does not include a hearing aid.
	They're not going to bug your hearing aid.
	Good news, people.
	Why did they even put that in there?
	I don't know.
	That's concerning.
	It sounds like a sore thumb.
	It does.
	Or similar device used by a person with impaired hearing to overcome the impairment and permit that person to hear.
	Wow, that didn't even realize that when I marked it up.
	And then surveillance device means listening device, optical surveillance device, or tracking device, or a device that is a combination of any two or more of the devices mentioned in the paragraph, and a device of kind prescribed by regulation for the purposes of this paragraph.
	Australia has just gone all crazy Gitmo police state.
	That sounds like to me.
	What can these devices be attached to?
	It can be attached to any object.
	An object definition means vehicle, aircraft, vessel, or other means of transportation, or clothing, or any other thing worn.
	Hello, RFID tag.
	Or, C, any other thing.
	Anything.
	Anything.
	Your dildo could be spying on you.
	Sorry, Australia, you need to revolt.
	I'm disappointed.
	Disappointed!
	I've been beaten down like everybody else.
	Now let's go to Gitmo Nation East.
	This is Mificant.
	What was the word?
	Morific.
	Morific.
	I like Mificant.
	Morific.
	This is Keith Bristow.
	And somehow we missed this.
	The United Kingdoms of Gitmo Nation East, they started a new...
	Division called the NCA, which is the National Crime Agency.
	And these guys, I did not know this, supersede everybody else.
	The Scotland Yard?
	Yes.
	The Scotland Yard has to answer to them.
	Now, they've replaced the Serious Organized Crime Agency.
	And this thing became fully operational one year ago, almost exactly, 7th October.
	It is a non-ministerial government department.
	And as a part of this, they have the Child Exploitation Online Protection Center.
	They have UK Border Agency reports into them.
	Organized crime, human weapon, drug trafficking, cyber crime.
	These guys really are at the top of the stack, and I don't know how this happened.
	I do know, Theresa May submitted this back in 2010, and these guys popped up.
	And this Keith Bristow, in this piece, which I think The Guardian interviewed him, He's literally saying Britons must reduce their digital freedoms to remain safe.
	Wow!
	The office that I hold The responsibility, the key responsibility, is expressed in law.
	And it's to secure efficient and effective activities to tackle serious and organised crime.
	And my job is to secure that response.
	How do you like being known as Britain's FBI? It's not a shorthand that I find in any way offensive.
	I'd love that, by the way.
	It's not a shorthand I find in any way offensive.
	But it is fair to say there's some pretty significant differences.
	But actually, the shorthand...
	Yeah, you don't have to follow any laws.
	...to resonate with the public, for it's a national agency, not a local police force.
	There are some similarities, and if that helps explain...
	The National Police.
	Mm-hmm.
	Zeke Heil!
	We do.
	That's the worst thing you can have.
	...because I need the public to understand who we are and what we do.
	When you, in the next few weeks, months, with the Commissioner of the Metropolitan Police, with other police chiefs, with others from other bits of law enforcement, come to ask for new powers, hasn't the public every right to say, given what we know, given what leaked out, why on earth should we trust you?
	The public a right to always question what leaked out.
	Snowden.
	Oh, you think it was Snowden that he's referring to?
	The GCHQ? Yeah, he actually comes back to that, yeah.
	...people who have been entrusted like me and my colleagues with very significant powers.
	Yes, very significant powers.
	If we seek to operate outside of what the public consent to, that for me by definition is not policing by consent.
	Now the consent is expressed through legislation, because we operate within the law.
	I think we have to explain very clearly the case to the public, it's for legislators to decide and we operate within the law.
	If you don't have consent, however you want to define having that consent, is it therefore wrong to continue with those greater powers?
	Yes, and consent is expressed through the process of legislation by politicians who have been elected to represent citizens.
	Yeah, and how's that working out, citizens?
	So whatever the legislation says, that is what we'll do.
	My job.
	What?
	Yeah?
	We can play that clip, but we don't have it.
	But that clip that the woman that used to work for Hillary explained that everything's gerrymandered, rigged, and cross-rigged.
	The public isn't represented at all.
	Exactly.
	I will not and have not fobby for anything.
	I will, and I need to be better at explaining why this is important in the world that we live in.
	Well, here's the problem of the context you're operating in.
	Snowden happened, and we have found out that there were powers nobody could have consented to because they were kept secret, and they were capabilities nobody consented to because they were kept secret and denied, which were absolutely there.
	But of course, we're not an intelligence agency.
	We don't operate in a secret way.
	We often have to operate covertly.
	What?
	They don't operate in a secret way.
	They operate covertly.
	Is that what he said?
	Yes, listen to it.
	It's great.
	Absolutely there.
	But of course, we're not an intelligence agency.
	We don't operate in a secret way.
	We often have to operate covertly.
	I'm sorry.
	Secrecy meet covert.
	You're the same thing.
	We operate within the law to enforce the law.
	Communications data is evidential for us.
	It's a different context.
	So he's saying we're not an intelligence agency.
	We're just here to protect your freedoms because of the law, ma'am.
	That's what he's saying.
	If you were giving advice to those who made those decisions, would you say, actually, fair enough, you had to keep that dead secret and keep the public out of it?
	Or would you say, actually, you've made things difficult for us when we need these powers and we could have explained it to the public?
	Look, the agencies in this country do a fabulous job in keeping us all safe.
	The people that lead those agencies are people for whom I have the highest regard.
	They will be making judgements within the context of the legislation about how it is that they need to exercise their powers to do their job effectively.
	They're the people to ask about that, but these are top quality people doing a fantastic job.
	Has it made it easier or harder for you and your colleagues Who are in command right now, and you need to have these powers right now, and you're going to want more fairly shortly to make that case to the public.
	Well, let's be clear.
	Let's forget what the agencies have allegedly not done.
	Yeah, let's just forget about that.
	Just wipe the slate clean.
	Let's be clear.
	Don't look over there.
	The Snowden revelations have damaged public confidence in our ability, whether it's law enforcement or intelligence agencies, to access and use data in an appropriate and proportionate way.
	It has damaged it.
	If it's been very damaging, how come your agency in its first year has been able to be a success?
	It hasn't crippled the ability of law enforcement to do some pretty impressive things.
	Because the public's asleep and the politicians are just doing whatever we tell them to.
	No, but it's also fair to say some of our capability is challenged, very significantly challenged.
	So new power is coming to Gibbo Nation East, and you're allowing it, people.
	See, Americans, somehow we still go, oh, that's not right.
	But hey, hey, man, that's not cool, dude.
	So we just backdoor it with net neutrality that everyone's all in on.
	Change your icon.
	Change your icon.
	Oh my goodness.
	And people, please know that it's not really the security agencies or intelligence agencies that are spying on you.
	It is your commercial companies who now are agents, like the ASIO bill we just read.
	They are agents of the intelligence agency.
	They are indemnified.
	They get to share information.
	Facebook, of course, is doing this.
	We know the FBI has an office right in the Facebook campus.
	Adobe now, of course, spying.
	And Adobe spies on everything.
	Everything.
	Flash, all of this stuff goes in.
	They have, what is it, Omniture?
	Right, Omniture.
	Omniture, where everything, they sell intelligence based upon Omniture tracking to government agencies.
	It's one of their services.
	And now, oh yes, well, they're spying on the e-reader.
	Duh!
	You were reading Mein Kampf?
	What is that?!
	I would say that the six users of the Adobe e-reader should be pissed off.
	And they should be arrested for using the Adobe e-reader.
	I never heard of the Adobe e-reader.
	Me neither.
	Me neither.
	Yeah, I don't know what they're talking about.
	It's just pathetic.
	But I'm so disappointed in Australia.
	My goodness.
	Yeah, they're done.
	That is really, really, really wrong.
	I just was not expecting that.
	I was not expecting that.
	But have no fear because, you know, it's America.
	It's America.
	We are the ones that will protect the world.
	That's our dubstep version.
	Ha ha.
	You like it?
	Yeah, it's very good.
	We're just filled with groovy stuff.
	We got lots of stuff.
	Should we do more?
	You want to take a break?
	I think we should take our little...
	Well, before we go to the segment where we talk about our helpers, the generous listeners and producers, let's play a little thing just so everyone's kind of in the mood.
	Okay.
	By playing the lobbyists and officials clip.
	End up on K Street.
	Former Speaker of the House Dennis Hastert, who had a son who became one of the highest paid lobbyists in Washington, D.C. He had very little, if any, experience in government.
	His previous job was running a pizza place and running a record store in rural Illinois.
	Everybody knows he got paid in the high six figures because his father was Speaker of the House.
	And if you wanted access to the Speaker of the House, you better go through the son.
	Joshua Hastert told the New York Times that he would never trade on his father's name, even though his firm promised clients that he had long-standing relationships with numerous offices on Capitol Hill.
	And the Hastert family isn't alone.
	Current and former congressional leaders like Trent Lott, Harry Reid, Tom Daschle, Joe Biden, and Tom DeLay all had immediate family members working as lobbyists while they were in office.
	We have no connections.
	We have nothing going on compared to these kids.
	This is why we're doing a podcast.
	And that's why we need help from our audience.
	I'm going to show myself old by donating to No Agenda.
	Imagine all the people who could do that.
	Oh, yeah, that'd be fab.
	Yeah, on No Agenda in the morning.
	We have people to thank for helping us.
	In fact, we have quite a few today.
	Oh, nice.
	Including Ben Hink in Orland Park, Illinois, with another one of my favorite, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5.
	Nice.
	He's aiming for a night who hasn't made it yet.
	He would like a dedouching.
	We'll do a joint dedouching for everybody at the end.
	I can do a dedouching.
	I'm in a good mood today.
	He's on a birthday.
	I just want everyone to know that we read on the air the full notes of executive and associate executive producers, but to leave enough time for what we do, we read everything, but not everything on the air under those levels.
	And nothing under 50 for anonymity reasons, mainly.
	Yeah, that's a rule.
	But it's one, two, three, four, five, but also Hassan Maynard, one, two, three, four, five in Bayshore, New York.
	I think he missed Christopher Dolan.
	And then one, two, three, four, five from Christopher Dolan in Berlin, Connecticut.
	Yep.
	And Hassan wants us to do a de-douching in Karma for all listeners.
	No.
	We do not de-douche.
	There's too many douches out there, as we hear from the people that throw douchebag comments at people.
	And he calls himself out as a douchebag, but then he wants to de-douche.
	This is not the way it works.
	1, 2, 3, 4, 5, and again, it's a record of 1, 2, 3, 4, 5.
	Nice.
	Dame Andrea Garnier in Rocky Mountain House, Alberta, Canada.
	She said she almost drove off the road a couple of times when she was laughing so hard.
	Oh, the Yeah Yeah guy, Sir Upper Decker, and the Ebola bus for the homeless.
	Well, I'm glad you find our comedic styling so entertaining.
	Yes, very comedic.
	We're a laugh riot.
	Let me give you a little aside here.
	So J.C., Buzzkill Jr., and his wife go back to Michigan because their father is ill.
	Oh, I'm sorry.
	And he is a, and she's been trying, he's like a negative Nellie.
	Oh.
	And he, she tried to get, and he's like all right wing, he's like a, you know, Glenn Bay, you know, the seat guy, he's in with all these guys.
	And so she tries to get him to listen to No Agenda's show, and he listens a couple of shows, for a couple of shows.
	Yeah.
	And he says, no, no, that show stinks.
	Those guys are too optimistic.
	We're going to collapse next week.
	Oh, no.
	We're all going to die.
	No wonder he's ill.
	Yeah, this is one of the things we do with our show, is we try to make people healthy by getting them out of these mindsets.
	But no, he's very comfortable ill.
	And realizing it's all just...
	Blah!
	It's just words and propaganda and fear-mongering and fear-porn.
	None of it is real.
	Like Ebola.
	Oh, I'm sorry.
	Where are the thousands of dead people?
	We'll get to that later.
	I have something to show you that's going to make it happen.
	Onward.
	Yes, please.
	CJ Kovill in Parts Unknown mentions that 123.33 is a donation number, which is the executive order, 123.33, which we have not promoted.
	12-333.
	123.33 is the executive order, which really, all of these outfits...
	Everything's based on it.
	Now, he has something else here at the end, which I had pre-produced.
	He says, Interesting thing I came across while listening to some music today.
	On Tony Bennett and Lady Gaga's new jazz standards album, Cheek to Cheek, there's a distinct No Agenda reference on track 8, Firefly.
	At the very end of the song, Bennett shouts in the morning.
	Let's listen.
	In the morning, that's exactly what he did.
	That's pretty clear to me.
	Tony Bennett.
	Hey, welcome, Tony.
	Nice.
	There's nothing, no reason to say that unless you're a listener.
	Anyway, he's done this nine times, the 1-2-3-3-3, and now he's at night.
	He'll be nighted later.
	John Knowles in Mufresboro.
	I never can pronounce that correctly.
	Mufresboro.
	There's a pronunciation, a distinct pronunciation for that town in Tennessee, 1-11-11.
	Mysterian Entertainment, LLC, $100 from Los Angeles.
	Read Adam and Callie's surfer voice.
	In the morning, dudes, the multiverse karma for my board game Zoneplex and the Kickstarter campaign I'm running for at Zoneplex.net.
	Enchanter Tim came in from Houston, Texas for $100 and he sent a note in and guess what?
	You can't find it.
	It's at the other desk.
	Oh, then I get to play an interlude.
	Okay, I'm back.
	I'm back.
	That was the Beatles.
	It sounded like a song.
	Yeah, it was the Beatles.
	It was what, Beatles?
	I feel fine.
	He says there's a huge cover-up in Game News.
	In what?
	Game News.
	Game Gate.
	Justice Warriors are coming out.
	We talked about Game Gate.
	Yes, we did.
	Anyway, he says his phones were hacked, tapped, and hacked in a ploy to silence me.
	My family was pressured by several neighbors to say I was imagining mind control raids.
	Ah, okay.
	I changed my car transmitter from 88.3 to 88.1 and verified signal jamming was targeting a line of sight and something.
	I can't read.
	So he's being attacked?
	I guess.
	Hmm.
	He says it needs to get out.
	Search the quinspiracy or Gamergate because no mainstream media news is reporting the truth.
	Well, that's not entirely true.
	That is correct.
	They're not reporting the truth.
	Yes, it's indoctrination.
	Really what's showing you is just how bogus mainstream press is.
	Can I say something?
	Yeah.
	The mainstream media never reports the truth.
	What difference would it make if it's this or something else?
	Really.
	Wake up and step away from the gaming console.
	This has been going on for a while.
	But now it's hit the gamers.
	Yeah, that's true.
	Houston, it could be the gases there at $100.
	Sir Thomas Nussbaum in Virginia Beach, Virginia, 98-76.
	Thank you.
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	Well, I wanted to talk about my flight to L.A. Please do.
	So I did it, but I smacked my lips.
	You were there for the Adobe conference.
	Yes.
	Did you feel spied on while you were walking around?
	No, not really.
	Was there anything awesome?
	No, no.
	They said it was a lot of awesome, but I didn't see a lot of awesome.
	But I do have a column coming up because there was something that they're going to do, which I think is going to either...
	It's going to dislocate part of the artistic community, I believe.
	Can you talk about this column?
	Well, yes.
	They have this thing called Behance.
	B-Hands?
	This is what Mickey should join, and I think this will solve her problems about having the local guy, because once she's in B-Hands, she'll find about 40 guys that are superstars in Austin, Texas that can really do whatever it is she needs to do with Photoshop.
	B-E-H-A-N-C-E? I think so.
	Behance.
	Yeah, the Behance community.
	Sounds like they had a meeting and they agreed on something.
	A couple years ago, some kid that started this and it became very popular.
	Adobe bought it.
	And the Behance community is 4 million artists.
	Oh, wow.
	That post everything they do and show.
	And this is one of the smart money art directors joins Behance and they try to find these guys that they can use for art.
	And now they're changing something called, they're developing something called the Behance Talent Search.
	I see it right now.
	Right here on the website.
	Start a talent search.
	And the talent search is now going to commercialize finding artists that are maybe not known at all.
	And the argument is simple.
	It's that if I want a really good artist, I don't need to look at his bio.
	I don't need to know his education.
	I need to look at as much of his artists.
	Because I want a guy who does this kind of art or that.
	So you've got comic book artists on there.
	You've got fine artists.
	You've got...
	Oh, this is really good.
	B hands.
	Oh, there's a flat line above the E. Yes.
	It's a behance.
	Maybe it's behance.
	Behance.
	Whatever the case, I went there.
	I also did Tom Likas' radio show for two hours.
	Oh, good.
	It was a podcast show.
	We picked up at least 200 new members of the mailing list.
	Oh, good.
	It's probably about 2,000 new listeners, which I want to say hello to.
	Yes, and I got several emails saying, hey, man, John said you live in Austin.
	Let's hook up.
	I'm sorry about that.
	That's okay.
	It's well known.
	That's how I knew you were on the Lakers show, because I got those emails.
	Hey, can I have lunch with you?
	No.
	Yeah, no.
	I'm busy.
	Please do not bother Adam.
	I'm busy.
	I should have said that on the show.
	Nobody said anything to me.
	Hey, hurry up in Berkeley.
	Can I have lunch?
	No, no.
	We're at the Celebrity.
	I'm just a second.
	Farmer's Market Saturday.
	That's where you can bug me.
	Farmer's, yeah.
	You'll find him there.
	So I fly out of Oakland and I do this experiment because I've been wanting to do it for a while.
	I printed out my Southwest...
	Boarding pass.
	And I got to the airport, you know, with plenty of time.
	So I printed out a Southwest boarding pass at the kiosk.
	Because with Southwest, or any of these places, you can print out as many boarding passes as you want.
	So I went to the security person.
	And I said, and she took the boarding pass, which is the one I printed out from Southwest of the kiosk.
	And it writes an X and a circle and a line and a checkmark.
	And they write all over the damn thing.
	Oh, no.
	Well, they do that.
	You've been there.
	They scribble on your boarding mat.
	And it's always different.
	There's no rhyme or reason.
	Yeah, sometimes there's a box with an X in it, a zero and a one.
	They circle the flight number, circle the gate, then do kind of a half signature, and then they shine the blue light on it, which always makes me feel very safe.
	So I go up to the gate to get on the plane, and I just swap out the boarding pass with the one that was the printout from the computer.
	Ah, that did not have the approved writing squiggles.
	It's clean as a whistle.
	Uh-huh.
	And so what do you think happened?
	Immediately, alarms went off, and it was...
	Oh, I was like, attention, attention, boarding gate 15, we have a non-squiggly boarding pass.
	Stop him!
	Is that what happened?
	No, no, I don't have the buzzer, but...
	No, no.
	What really happened?
	Not what happened.
	Nothing happened, of course.
	So all that bullcrap they go through...
	What a surprise!
	Well, I always suspected that, because it's never the same.
	It's always like, you know...
	And I would think that the idea is to make it look like they've got some codes on it.
	Well, let me tell you how I know that it's bullcrap, because I see people going through showing their phone with their boarding pass on the phone.
	Oh, the phone thing.
	By the way...
	And no one's squiggling on your screen to approve it.
	Mm-mm.
	I want to warn people.
	What are you drinking?
	What are you drinking?
	I'm sorry.
	It's water.
	I drink water.
	It's okay.
	I just want to know if it was whiskey or just water.
	I wish.
	I would say that it wasn't the case in Oakland.
	For some unknown reason, I've never seen anybody use a phone in Oakland where you'd think there'd be a lot of people using the phone.
	But on the way back from Los Angeles, there was a lot of people using the phone.
	There was four of them, which is a lot because I never see it that much.
	And two of them got put aside, pushed aside, and they had to go through a rigmarole.
	Don't use the phone.
	It's like asking for trouble.
	Oh, really?
	I've seen people go through no problem.
	That's interesting.
	Well, this is one person.
	And it was hanging up everybody else.
	Oh.
	You know, you got to bring a supervisor over.
	Something about something.
	It was like there was a dot after someone's name.
	Oh, yeah.
	And the dot wasn't on the, you know.
	The ID didn't, you know, you show your ID and it didn't match the phone thing.
	And I don't know.
	It was ridiculous.
	But I didn't get any pre either way, which is kind of annoying.
	But it was the lines weren't long.
	If you take the two and three o'clock in the afternoon flights, you're in pretty good shape to get in and out.
	I have a question for you.
	Just a question.
	SpaceX, this is that Hypesters-ish party.
	Yeah, Mulan mug.
	And they're talking about how morific it will be That, and I think this is going to happen next year, they will be able to land a Falcon 9 rocket on its legs.
	So the idea is this thing takes off, then you save $100 million by reusing the rocket part, because I guess it's not the fuel, it's just the rocket part.
	It lands on its own legs, and everyone is just, oh my god, this is so amazing!
	It's so fantastic!
	He's making it land on legs!
	Didn't we do this with a lunar module in 1969?
	Why is this such a big deal?
	Well, they didn't land it on Earth.
	Oh, so there's a little less gravity.
	Yeah.
	But you only need to compensate that with more thrust.
	They're making this sound like it's just...
	This is old technology.
	Am I wrong in thinking this?
	No, you're correct.
	This can be and has been done in the past.
	All right.
	Yeah, exactly.
	Mm-hmm.
	I don't know that this...
	I would think that the fuel necessary to do this is going to cost more than whatever money you save by reuse.
	I don't know.
	Because it's going to take as much, it's like a bullet.
	You know, it goes up in the air and comes down at the same speed.
	It's, this thing has got to have, I mean, it's going to be coming down fast and you're going to have a lot of rocket power to stop it and then land it.
	You got to, you know, you got to tweak it.
	I just don't, I'm, here's my prediction.
	I'll put it in the book.
	This isn't going to work.
	All right.
	Alright, time now!
	Ebola.
	It is scary and wretched and miserable.
	It is gross.
	And you die from it.
	Ebola.
	Okay, I've found a couple of things out.
	A couple of things we need to talk about.
	Yeah, your guy died.
	Well, let's start with that.
	This guy keeps dying.
	Because he was dead last week.
	He was dead on Sunday.
	Then all of a sudden he died yesterday.
	I have reports when he died on...
	I have here...
	Holy...
	Yeah, this guy keeps dying.
	Here.
	October 5th, Thomas...
	This is from...
	I think Reuters.
	Thomas A. Duncan died in Dallas Hospital.
	Maybe the stories about the zombie is true.
	No, it's...
	It didn't work.
	I think he died and then something else happened and the word didn't get out.
	Because the way they made it sound is like he died Wednesday.
	Okay.
	But I have, going back to the fourth that he is dead.
	So the guy keeps on dying.
	Fine.
	Fine, fine, fine.
	Let us first go to the President of the United States and listen to his speech on Ebola.
	I have some questions and some comments.
	I'm sorry, but I should point out that this was a presser, and he's sitting there with everybody and with Dempsey right next to him, because, of course, there's Ebola, and it's a huge, very scary, frightening thing.
	And now he's a little off mic, unfortunately.
	And what's Dempsey doing there?
	Oh, but this is a whole-of-government approach, John.
	Well, you'll find out.
	I get a full briefing from my entire team across administrations.
	Across administrations.
	So apparently we have other administrations now.
	I wonder if the second Obama's involved.
	Across administrations.
	Across agents.
	Oh, that's a giveaway.
	Who's running the country?
	We are taking to fight the Ebola epidemic.
	Now, Epidemic.
	I need to stop here.
	Words matter.
	This is not an epidemic.
	The definition of epidemic is that the majority of a population has this disease.
	It's not an epidemic.
	Would you agree with me?
	I don't know if your definition is correct, that half the people have to have something.
	But no, I would say it's an epidemic.
	It's an incident.
	Characterized by very widespread growth.
	That is an epidemic, according to Merriam-Webster.
	The computer model says it's going to be an epidemic.
	Exactly.
	To stop the epidemic at its source in West Africa, but also to make sure that we're doing everything we need to do to prevent an outbreak here in the United States.
	To prevent an outbreak.
	These words are very interesting.
	Outbreak.
	It brings up movies and stuff.
	Let's find out what this is about, Mr.
	President.
	This is not just a matter of charity.
	This is an issue about our safety.
	It is also an issue with respect to the political stability of the region.
	Political stability of the region.
	The cameras, for God's sake.
	I know.
	It's about the political stability of the region.
	Oh, yeah.
	Oh, hello, freedom coming.
	Hello, freedom and democracy.
	Globalization on its way.
	So, it is very important for us to make sure that we are treating this It's a national security threat.
	We're treating it this way.
	It's not a national security threat, people.
	It is not.
	Ebola does not fly through the air.
	A lady puked on the plane between Midland and Dallas.
	They landed the plane to throw her off.
	She didn't have a fever.
	She just threw up!
	Oh!
	Oh, land the plane!
	Someone's throwing up!
	Gee, I've never heard of anybody throwing up on a plane.
	Fucking idiots!
	Fucking idiots!
	Now, oh, but this is about the political stability, so what do we need?
	I don't know, UK! Join in!
	And Britain, too, is significantly increasing its response.
	The aviation support vessel, RFA Argus, is being deployed to West Africa, along with three Merlin helicopters, to provide critical support to medical teams and aid workers.
	Ebola treatment centres will be established along with the training academy too.
	In all, some 750 military personnel will be sent to the region.
	The disease is an unprecedented threat that knows no borders.
	Yes, it does.
	It has not crossed over into all of the countries there.
	It seems to only be in certain countries where there's a lot of oil.
	We have to get ahead of this disease.
	But if we get ahead of it, if we rise to the challenge, we can contain it and beat it.
	Yes, we can contain it and beat it.
	Now, the president said something else, which I received some feedback on from our global intelligence network.
	We have learned some lessons in terms of what happened in Dallas.
	We don't have a lot of margin for error.
	The procedures and protocols that are put in place must be followed.
	You'll recall that the patient who now apparently has died.
	Or maybe dies tomorrow.
	Or he could die again, yes.
	Showed up at the hospital and there was a computer glitch.
	Do you recall there was, in fact, we titled our show that.
	It's always a glitch.
	Adam and John, says Andrew, I live about four miles from the hospital where the now deceased Ebola patient was housed.
	It's the same hospital my kids were born in.
	My neighbor is an ER nurse at that facility and had treated the patient a number of times prior to his death today.
	She had some very interesting insight into the glitch the media were reporting on last week about the doctor not seeing the notes from the nurse and letting the patient go after his initial visit.
	She is an ex-programmer turned nurse.
	A girl named Ben.
	So she knows software systems well.
	She described the system that is used as being, quote, something that was built for the backend with little to no regard for the average user who operates it on a daily basis.
	She described the program as being very deep.
	It takes information about the patient and parses it to proper databases.
	But for the user to access that information, you have to wade through huge spreadsheets of data.
	For a nurse or a doctor, you'd watch something with intuitive UI that would almost replicate the old paper charts, where the display would replicate something like a Facebook news feed.
	So what does this lead to?
	She said the program is so difficult to navigate, takes so many clicks to do simple tasks, doctors and nurses just get frustrated and bypass it altogether.
	Yes.
	So they call that a glitch.
	Bull crap.
	As usual.
	As usual.
	That's a great note.
	Yes.
	Now what is going on with, how is this being used?
	I think this is very interesting what I'm seeing.
	I'm seeing a shift, I'm seeing a move.
	And let us first take CDC Director Frieden.
	This is something he said on the Hill.
	I will say that in the 30 years I've been working in public health, the only thing like this has been AIDS. And we have to work now so that this is not the world's next AIDS. This is very interesting.
	This is something that goes back to your original analysis, like AIDS. Okay, now let's listen to Frieden, who is taking the conversation in a new way, in a new direction.
	You said that we've run out of this experimental drug called ZMAP. Correct.
	That was used to treat two Americans who had Ebola.
	Is there going to be more of that?
	And where are we on vaccines?
	Okay.
	Well, there will be more ZMAP. Unfortunately, it is difficult to produce.
	A lot is being produced right now.
	It should be ready in a month and a half to two months.
	We're not going to get it tomorrow or next week.
	A vaccine to prevent Ebola, we have started a vaccine early phase one trial in the NIH in Bethesda, Maryland on September the 2nd, 20 volunteers.
	We should have data as to whether or not it's safe very soon, probably by the end of this calendar year, and then we'll go into a larger trial in West Africa.
	And, oh, being in West Africa, we're going to a trial.
	Now, this is very interesting.
	This was his overall message on several of the news shows.
	Let me ask you about drugs.
	We know there are some experimental drugs.
	Some of them have been used to deal with the early U.S. relief workers that got infected early on during the beginning of this crisis.
	Is there signs of speeding up that process so that these drugs are available faster, quicker, and either to be used both in West Africa and anything we need here?
	The drug pipeline is going to be slow, I'm afraid.
	The most promising drug, ZMAP, there's more of it, and it's hard to make.
	It takes months to make just a bit.
	So many people are working on, can that be accelerated?
	We're also looking at vaccines, and there are a couple of promising vaccines that are already in initial trials.
	And if those were available, we would be able to use them for health care workers and potentially in other places, if they work.
	So we've got to figure out as quickly as possible whether they work.
	So, Governor Perry here in Texas, which is the center of the Ebola outbreak in the United States.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Yes.
	A guy died.
	Yes.
	Hello, yeah guy.
	He appointed Brett Giroir, M.D., As the man in charge now of the task force that will help us stop Ebola dead in its tracks.
	G-I-R-O-I-R. Brett Giori.
	Very interesting, this gentleman, because it was a year ago...
	In March when Rick Perry was at Texas A&M and this is what he announced.
	And it is my pleasure to announce that Texas A&M has been selected for a cutting-edge vaccine manufacturing facility, a $91 million center that will help rapidly develop and manufacture vaccines to help combat...
	What?
	Influenza outbreaks all around the globe.
	Not only will this keep more Americans safer from an epidemic, but it'll bring more than 40 money and jobs.
	Here's the announcement.
	Governor Rick Perry was joined by Texas A&M System Chancellor John Sharp and Brett Giroir and GlaxoSmithKline to announce this facility.
	So the guy who is put in place only a year ago...
	To run a rapid vaccine development corporation and laboratory with plenty of money is now appointed the leader of the task force.
	And we hear that, ah, well, drugs is not the answer.
	Vaccine is the answer.
	Vaccine is the answer.
	So there's two things happening.
	One, apparently there's going to be a vaccine.
	And I want to ask you, because I've asked several people this, if the government says, we have an Ebola vaccine, will you line up to go get it, John?
	No.
	Okay.
	And what if they mandate it because of the national...
	Okay.
	Okay.
	They won't need to.
	Now I'm seeing the fall.
	What are people saying when you say this to other people?
	No.
	Across the board, no.
	They won't take the vaccine?
	And I said, what if your kids can't go to school?
	I'll homeschool them.
	People are afraid of this, and you're going to see lots of vaccine noises coming up.
	You're going to hear a lot about that.
	And now, here's what it's being used for.
	This is what took me a little off guard, and I thought, oh, of course.
	Of course.
	CBS Package.
	Well, the Ebola threat continues to be a real concern for people overseas, with 932 deaths and more than 1,000 infected.
	But health officials right here in Maryland say the flu is a much bigger threat to people right here in America.
	Which is true.
	It should be on everyone's radar as we head into fall.
	Flu season is months away, but this is the time to start thinking about it, according to city and state health officials.
	How old is this clip?
	This is brand new, John.
	It's not months away.
	It starts in October.
	This is a brand new clip.
	Okay.
	It's months away, January.
	I'm just telling you.
	It's not a serious disease, and it's really very serious.
	Thousands of people die every year because of the flu.
	With the Ebola outbreak dominating the news, Maryland health officials are trying to redirect attention to the flu, an actual direct threat to people living in Maryland.
	We have tens of thousands of deaths from flu every year in the United States.
	And so imagine the amount of attention that's been spent on the Ebola virus in the news compared to the amount that's spent on flu.
	So health officials are urging people to get the flu shot this fall, reminding us that influenza is easily transmitted by air, unlike the Ebola virus.
	People want to do something to protect themselves.
	After they hear a scary story about Ebola, they should figure out how they're going to get the flu vaccine.
	That'll do a lot more to protect them this year because the flu is going to be in Baltimore.
	It is going to be in Maryland.
	Each year, up to 20% of the U.S. population gets the flu.
	More than 200,000 are hospitalized.
	And the flu season peaks in January or February, but it can come...
	In January or February, whatever.
	...as early as October.
	And remember, it takes about a week or two for the flu to start, the flu shot to start working.
	I love that flood.
	Before the flu starts, I mean, the flu shot starts working.
	Then Vox.
	Vox Media, the people who...
	Oh, Vox, they've got great stuff.
	Oh, Vox Media.
	Millennials.
	Yeah, a bunch of shithead shills.
	And then this woman is the editor...
	I am going to get a flu shot like every adult American should this flu season.
	This is native advertising paid for by the American Flu Shot Association or something like that.
	My insurance card?
	Ready to get a flu shot?
	You should get a flu shot.
	What?
	If this nod doesn't exist, we should start it.
	Everybody should get a flu shot unless you have some particular medical condition that would prevent you from getting a flu shot.
	This is a native ad, isn't it?
	This is some particular thing we can't get a flu shot.
	The last time there was a survey, 58% of Americans didn't get flu shots.
	Stupid!
	Flu shots are usually really cheap.
	If you have insurance, it's probably not going to cost you anything.
	Just bring your insurance card.
	Very important.
	If you don't have insurance, you...
	How can you not have insurance?
	You have Obamacare!
	It's either in the $15 to $25 range.
	The flu is very contagious, and sometimes we have really bad flu outbreaks.
	In 2004...
	I can't take it anymore.
	You should watch that in the show notes.
	I shouldn't.
	No, you should not.
	Okay.
	Now, my question is...
	There's a definite push towards vaccines, vaccine for the flu shot, and there's no...
	Forget about...
	Any kind of medication for Ebola, it'll be a vaccine.
	And I have to say, John, I'm very worried about the mandate.
	If not a mandate, there will be people walking around like zombies going, if you're not vaccinated, don't come into my house, man.
	You might not have Ebola.
	This is...
	Oh, man, you threw up, man.
	You've got to get the vaccine.
	This is out of control, and people have been completely mind-controlled.
	Well, you said yourself that nobody wants to get the vaccine, everyone you've asked.
	Yeah.
	Who am I? Am I asking Obots?
	I should.
	Yeah, you should be asking Obots.
	Other ones are freaked out.
	Now, we have 3,000 and an additional 500, so probably 3,500 to 4,000 combat troops in the region.
	I'm sorry, military.
	I shouldn't say combat troops.
	And we asked General David Rodriguez, who is from AFRICOM at the Pentagon.
	So what are these guys doing?
	What do you think they're doing, John?
	We've got a whole bunch of guys and gals over there in fatigues, in camouflage, camo, flak jackets.
	They're building little huts.
	Pretty much no one is going to be interacting with the Ebola patients.
	That is now the new information.
	General, will any U.S. military personnel be involved in the direct treatment of any Ebola patients?
	Or in the training that health care givers, will they be coming to contact with any Ebola patients?
	Ebola patients.
	No, now the mobile labs are different.
	But no for the majority of the force.
	No for the majority of the force.
	I could play the whole clip, but no.
	No, there's going to be five people who are going to be directly involved, and the rest is just sitting there...
	Guarding the oil wells.
	Just in case.
	According to the World Bank, Ebola could cost the West African economy...
	$33 billion.
	That's my proof.
	I don't need to hear any more.
	Now I know.
	That's a good catch.
	MarketWatch.
	In MarketWatch.
	$33.
	That's funny.
	Shares of TechMira, which is the company who should be making the Ebola virus cure, share skyrocketing.
	Monsanto invested $1.5 million two months ago into TechMira.
	And in April, they were awarded a $140 million contract by the government for Ebola treatment research.
	So it seems like it was, you know, I don't think we heard about this in April, did we?
	No, no.
	So just coincidence, possibly.
	Just coincidence.
	And now in Europe, Spain has killed a dog because they believe the dog had Ebola and got it from the dog's owner.
	And half a million people have signed a petition.
	Who gives a crap about humans but a dog?
	Oh!
	You can't kill the dog!
	Don't kill the dog!
	Now, just to show you how bogus this thing is, and again, people, you're only hearing words.
	You're seeing nothing.
	You're seeing a bunch of people in yellow rain slickers with ski goggles on.
	Now you're starting to see one or two real hazmat suits.
	John, go to the following URL, and I want you to look at the CNN showing us an Ebola patient, a kid, a poor kid with Ebola.
	Now, What do we think Ebola looks like?
	Give me this URL. I want to ask you first.
	If you have Ebola, what would that look like?
	I've not seen a single person puking.
	What it would look like is you'd be bleeding out of your eyeballs and ears.
	I've seen people sweat.
	All I see is tents with rain slickers and ski masks and people drinking water.
	Go to itm.im slash EbolaKid, one word.
	And then look at this video.
	It's Inside Liberia's Ebola Crisis.
	And tell me what, just narrate what you see on the screen.
	Okay, I'm watching now.
	CNN, Inside Liberia's Ebola Crisis.
	No audio, because this was recorded at Starbucks.
	Did you see what happened?
	The kid...
	I know.
	The kid...
	I've got the...
	The kid...
	Okay, here comes the kid wandering down the street.
	Yeah, wandering down the street.
	Looks right.
	And then...
	He drops down and lays in the ground.
	He looks very healthy.
	Yeah.
	And he just laid down for no apparent reason and looks like he's out.
	And does he look like he's throwing up or bleeding from his eyeballs?
	No, no.
	He was a healthy looking kid walking down the street.
	He did actually look left and look right and then went to the ground and then went into a fetal position as though he's been on the ground.
	And then, I mean, come on.
	Come on.
	This is not Ebola.
	So this, somebody took the video from a Starbucks, I get it.
	Of particular interest is the scam nature of this video, which is most clearly shown at the end where a kid supposedly dying of Ebola obviously falls down in the most incredibly fake acting job ever.
	Though there's no audio, this scam nature of this video is perfectly preserved.
	Isn't that great?
	Yeah, it's very funny.
	So just tell me, where have you seen any evidence of this epidemic?
	In Dallas!
	No.
	There's no evidence whatsoever.
	There's just none.
	There is no visual evidence.
	A million will be dead in January.
	1.2 million, I've heard.
	There is no evidence of this whatsoever.
	This is a hijack of the...
	As the president said, political stability...
	We've got military in there.
	We've got the UK with 750 with a whole ship.
	We have the clips early when this thing began of people in these countries saying this is a hoax.
	Yeah.
	Well, they're dead.
	Can't be talking about that.
	And I'm sorry.
	Do not take a vaccine when it comes out.
	Well, nobody's going to take the vaccine.
	We'll see.
	We'll see.
	There's these memes.
	They start to pull it together.
	Ebola, it's the ISIS of viral...
	Let's play that again.
	Let's play that again.
	This is what people are being inundated with.
	You're being...
	Dr.
	Alexander Garza is the Associate Dean at the St.
	Louis University College of Public Health and former medical officer at the Department of Homeland Security.
	Dr.
	Garza, if I may, because that is a bit of a chilling analogy, that it's the ISIS of infectious agents.
	I mean, come on!
	And I think you made your point about this.
	Alright, then I'm done.
	As we go into our fourth hour.
	I'm sorry.
	Now you're mad at me all of a sudden?
	Oh, no, but I think, you know, you've made your point about this two or three shows ago, and you've been making it again and again, but I don't think you need to replay that clip.
	Which I think you've made your point.
	And you're going to stick to it.
	And I think it's a good point because there's no evidence, except computer models, again, like global warming, that indicate there's anything really good.
	I mean, there's, I don't know, maybe somebody has Ebola.
	I'm not sure.
	And the guy died in Dallas and got me.
	I'm not seeing anyone bleeding from their eyes.
	It seems that you want to get people frightened.
	You want to show them, you know, something.
	Exactly.
	By the way, in the ears.
	Oh, bleeding from your ears?
	Yeah.
	And you're spitting out blood.
	I mean, it's blood coming everywhere.
	Yeah, it's lovely.
	But I don't even have evidence of that.
	Oh, wait.
	I'm sorry.
	It's too shocking.
	We can't show...
	It's not shocking to show the kids in Gaza getting their heads blown off.
	Bingo, boom, shakalaka.
	No, I think our show today was a little over the top with media bashing.
	Well, what else are we going to do?
	This is the healthy news diet.
	All right, let me bash the educational system, then.
	Where two plus three is approximately four in the Common Core.
	Here's a local Common Core curriculum director who explains exactly what is important when teaching kids the Common Core way.
	But even under the new Common Core, even if they said 3 times 4 was 11, if they were able to explain their reasoning and explain how they came up with their answer really in words and in oral explanations, and they showed it in the picture but they just got the final number wrong...
	We're really more focusing on the how and the way to be correcting them.
	Isn't that great?
	I know how to do it, teacher.
	I got three times four.
	I take four.
	And then I have four.
	And then I take another four because I know there's the numbers got two digits.
	So that's eight.
	And then I add three.
	Yes.
	And I get 11.
	And that's the answer.
	That's good.
	Mm-hmm.
	Yeah, well, there's Gates again.
	Very disturbing.
	Very disturbed about this.
	But, you know, you have a lock on the media by paying for everything, particularly the public media.
	And that's why people should be supporting our show with contributions to keep this show telling you what we discovered by just...
	Going one step or two steps often beneath the surface of a story and finding the same douchebags and many times their agendas and why they're doing it and nobody else even comes close to doing what we do.
	I'm thinking for a second.
	No?
	No, nobody.
	You couldn't.
	You won't think.
	You can think all you want.
	No.
	I really tried for a moment there.
	No.
	No, not a single one.
	All right, well, I'm going to move my clips to the next show.
	And I also want to read the letter that this guy wrote in from the fugitive in Pennsylvania.
	Oh, yeah.
	Yeah, great letter.
	Yeah, Scott sent a note.
	I'm going to edit it so I can read it in the short.
	To bring the points out.
	And it just sounds to me like a sheriff, you know, which I believe from the beginning, of course, when the sheriff didn't say, come in and surrender yourself, instead said, we're going to get you.
	Yeah.
	Which is not what law enforcement does unless they have some grudge or they have something else is going on because that's not the way you act if you're a professional.
	Exactly.
	Well, it's good to have you back at home base.
	I'm glad you made it back okay, John.
	That's all good.
	I did.
	Yeah.
	Thank goodness.
	Oh, I have to...
	I got complaints about this trip.
	Oh.
	And the main complaint I have is that the Burbank Airport, one of the cutest places in the world, has now moved a car rental location at the airport.
	Oh, no.
	About a mile and a half from the airport and you have to walk to it.
	Oh, no.
	And you used to be able to get on a shuttle.
	They took you to some place and you got in your car and you drove off.
	Now they've screwed it up.
	Anyway.
	Coming to you from FEMA Region 6 in 2014 in the morning, I'm Adam Curry.
	Yes, 2014 is exactly what year we're in.
	And I'm from northern Silicon Valley.
	I'm actually in northern Silicon Valley where it's getting a little foggy today.
	I'm John C. Dvorak.
	We'll be back on Sunday.
	So please remember us at Dvorak.org slash NA. Sunday, right here on No Agenda.
	Boo-so-ka-laka-laka.
	We are here, hashtag America, near our hashtag target, soon.
	This, I think, could be one of the most important things that we don't know that we don't know.
	Right?
	There's the stuff that you know you don't know, and there's the stuff that you know that you know, and there's the stuff that you don't know that you know.
	But the most destructive can be, to paraphrase Donald Rumsfeld, the most destructive can be the stuff that you don't know that you don't know.
	If there's a need for a rescue mission, when the world is threatened, the world needs help, it calls on America.
	And that's the story.
	Adios, mofo.

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