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	It's the same outfits, the same costumes.
	Adam Curry, John C. Devorak.
	It's Sunday, September 21st, 2014.
	Time for your Gidmo Nation Media Assassination Episode 654.
	This is no agenda.
	High above the city by the bay, breaking the two guardians of reality in the same FEMA region rule.
	In downtown San Francisco in the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
	And from not downtown San Francisco and northern Silicon Valley, I'm John C. DeVore.
	It's Craig Vaughn and Buzzkill.
	In the morning.
	Just realized that we made this very dangerous mistake.
	Thank you.
	You said the IP wrong.
	No, that was the reason why we started late.
	No, it's two guardians of reality in the same FEMA region simultaneously.
	I know, it's risky.
	It's like everybody being on Air Force One.
	You can't have this.
	This is not a good idea.
	Yeah, if somebody nuked the area, the show would be done.
	So I started off this morning, and I'm so proud of my kit.
	You know, I've got it down to a science.
	I could set it up and break it down in ten minutes.
	Okay.
	A whole studio, which sounds exactly the same whether I'm...
	It is the same studio, whether I'm at home...
	Yeah.
	...or whether I'm on the road.
	You always say this, but the 10 minute thing never plays out.
	It was perfect.
	I had everything before I went to sleep last night, had it all set up, checked everything, check, check, double check.
	And now I have the final piece, which is this Netgear router so I can connect to the hotel network and then connect all my devices on my own personal network.
	So nothing should be able to go wrong.
	And this morning, and the main reason for this is my first generation iPad has to talk to the MacBook Air in order to fire off the jingle.
	So when you say something that warrants a buzzer, I need to be able to hit it, which is why I have this very tactile thing.
	No reason to play the buzzer without cause.
	Well, this is true.
	And I couldn't get it to connect.
	It looked like it was connecting to the hotel network.
	I did not understand what was going on until I figured out I had put my Macs to sleep.
	I opened them up, and they connected to my MiFi, which was still running in my pants pocket.
	Let's talk a little bit about that.
	What is that?
	The MiFi?
	Yeah.
	I got one of these Freedom Pop things.
	Yeah.
	If I'm really in a jam...
	Where did you get it?
	I've had it for a couple months.
	Where do you get them from?
	Freedompop.com.
	Freedom Pop?
	Yeah.
	I think it's $10 a month or something.
	I only use it if I really am somewhere where I might need to get network access on my iPod Touch since I don't have a smartphone.
	Yeah.
	And I used it last night.
	I showed it to you in the restaurant.
	Yeah, I know.
	I thought it was a cute little device.
	It's very pretty.
	But everything was connected to that.
	And you and I were on Skype this morning while I'm trying to figure out why I can't connect my iPad.
	My iPad was on my internal Netgear network.
	But I was talking to you over the MiFi, which was doing phenomenally well.
	Oh, that was your problem.
	Interesting little thing.
	You've got to turn things off once in a while.
	Let's go back to this device.
	So it's a little bitty thing.
	It looks like a compact for makeup.
	Smaller, I think.
	Very small.
	They're bigger than that, yeah.
	If you took a lipstick tube and smashed it, it would be about that big.
	And you keep it in your pocket, and what does it do?
	It goes and looks for, it gets you an LTE or an Edge or a 4G or a 3G? What does it do for you?
	How do you get Wi-Fi out of it?
	What is it hooking to?
	It connects to the cell phone network.
	Okay.
	And I have the cheap version because I barely need it, and it connects to 4G, not LTE, but 4G, and it creates...
	And it makes a hot spot.
	Yeah, it makes a hot spot.
	You actually lit up the whole restaurant.
	Well, it's not like I'm using radar to light up enemy aircraft, but yeah, I lit up the whole restaurant.
	It's no different than having...
	People have these all the time.
	You have, don't you?
	I thought you had one of these.
	You set up your laptop, your smartphone to do that.
	No, I just tether off my phone.
	It's the same thing.
	Yeah, but there's no phone involved.
	You're just basically buying a remote tether.
	Yeah, for whenever I need it, and then I can turn it off, shut it down, and then, you know, then I have my goal of...
	It's 10 bucks a month.
	I like to separate my data from my network.
	That's what I like to do.
	Unlimited data for 10 bucks a month.
	It's not unlimited.
	No, it's not unlimited.
	No?
	No, there's a limit.
	It's like a handy little device.
	I don't know if I'd want a Wi-Fi transmitter in my pants next to my nuts like you have.
	It was in my jacket pocket, which is why I forgot all about it.
	It wasn't next to my nuts.
	It was next to my heart, where it belongs.
	Well, that's even worse.
	Anyway.
	Okay, so you had the thing running this morning and it was confused.
	That's what confused everything, yeah.
	It was handing out a network of 192.168.1.foo, and I couldn't figure out why my iPad was connecting to 168.168.foo, but that was correct.
	That was just confusing.
	It's working now.
	It's too many devices.
	Yeah, you should do, yeah.
	It really is.
	So I'm here in San Francisco.
	Why?
	Why?
	Well, two reasons.
	One was to...
	I used the pod show 10-year reunion as an excuse to really come and see you, and I am disappointed by the whole trip.
	Why?
	Well...
	You were disappointed in me?
	I wasn't...
	No, not you specifically.
	So we did the reunion.
	It was at this bar called Dogpatch.
	Dogpatch Saloon.
	Dogpatch Saloon.
	And it was cute.
	These are people who we worked with 10 years ago when we started Podshow.
	And it was nice seeing some of the original people there.
	And I think, except for Michael Butler, everybody looks kind of old.
	Yeah, well, they're older.
	Do we look that much?
	You don't look like you've changed much in 10 years.
	I started old.
	Hey!
	Well, this is true.
	I didn't hear you.
	I did notice back of your head is getting a little thin on the head of the part.
	I gotta get back on the Rogaine for that part.
	Have you ever used the Rogaine for that?
	Oh, yeah.
	You gotta do something, otherwise you're gonna get a bald spot back there.
	It's kind of cute, though, because it's almost like a baby's head, you know, at the back, that soft kind of flasso.
	Flasso.
	Anyway, I'm sorry.
	That wasn't a disappointment.
	Oh.
	What was the disappointment?
	I'm very curious now.
	So there was, you know, what was it, 10 people?
	11.
	Yeah, 11.
	Okay, it was nice to see everybody, but it was kind of, okay.
	Well, you got to see Chris Beshears.
	No, it was great seeing everybody, but it was...
	Most people didn't show up.
	No, most people didn't show up, exactly.
	But most people didn't know about it.
	Because they don't have Facebook, true.
	Yeah.
	And then you and I went to dinner, and this is what really disappointed me.
	We had a fabulous dinner at Fringal.
	I had the salmon and you had the...
	Was it the...
	Veal shanks.
	Veal shanks.
	And we had a nice half bottle of wine.
	But we are both...
	We can no longer communicate and have a nice conversation.
	I know because I know what I was doing and you were doing the same.
	We're not really talking because we don't want to ruin the show.
	So we're kind of talking around.
	It's been going on for years.
	But it was worse.
	It was the worst ever.
	Oh yeah, because you had a real good one lined up.
	I said, what?
	Oh no, I'll save it for the show.
	Which is fine, because the way I see it, it's like, this is content.
	We do the show for our larger audience of producers and listeners and hangers-on.
	Hangers-on?
	There's hangers-on, believe me.
	And they are the ones that...
	We should be producing content for it.
	Because you know and I know that if we sit there and yak about the stuff we're going to talk about today...
	We'll never talk about it on the show.
	We'll never talk about it.
	This is the problem with pre-interviews.
	For people out there who want to do media tours, you're going to see this happen.
	It'll happen to you.
	You're going to go to some operation and they're going to do a pre-interview because they think you're stupid.
	So they do a pre-interview and they ask you all the questions they're going to ask you.
	And then when it comes to the real interview, you don't remember if they just asked you that question and you don't say anything.
	The interviews are horrible.
	I knew that guy was a dud.
	So we don't do that.
	And it's also, once it's out of your system, once we've discussed it, then it's out of the system and you don't even think about talking about these things anymore.
	So we really resorted to gossiping about other people.
	Just like, man, can you believe that guy?
	And really, it would make us very boorish if we did this on the show.
	It was completely inappropriate.
	And so I get home, and then, you know, I was like, alright.
	But also, I looked at us, you know, here's these two dudes.
	We're driving in a 1993 Lexus with a cassette tape sticking out of the cassette player, unlabeled.
	I was afraid to push it.
	Everything is dust.
	The dust is from 1993 in your car.
	No, it's not.
	And I'm thinking, I'm no better.
	I've got a Dodge Ram from 2002 and a Ford with the transmission dropping out again.
	This is the sacrifice we make for one dinner a year.
	Yes.
	And the show.
	I'm thinking to myself, well, it beats eating dog food, okay, but it's not many levels above it.
	Yeah, well, that's because some of the support we get is sketchy, like today's show.
	Sketchy at best.
	I do want to remind everybody, you are under the revocation of the Smith-Mundt Act, so everything that is going on around you in your world of media is no longer protected by the Smith-Mundt Act, which disallowed and forbade the United States government from committing propaganda against their own peoples.
	We actually should harp on this on a weekly, or daily, or show-by-show basis.
	We should say you are living under the revocation of the Smith-Mund Act, which was revoked in the National Defense Authorization Act for fiscal year 2013.
	And this is, the result is what you're seeing.
	And extended.
	And extended.
	And the result is what you're seeing.
	Yeah, propaganda from the government to control the masses.
	And it's legalized.
	Legalized.
	People don't realize it used to be illegal.
	Yeah, no, they don't.
	No, that's why the CIA used to just have to infiltrate the news media.
	So they could get their message across that way, sneaky.
	But now they don't even need to do that.
	They can just, you know...
	Just call them up.
	Straight up.
	Just send them the package.
	Here it is.
	Here's what you do.
	Yeah, run it.
	I think we have a winner, and it does tie into this, for our Name the Disease quest.
	Yeah.
	That is the one thing I believe we have some consensus on from our meeting last night.
	Yeah, the meeting.
	Involuntary social network.
	I would like to say disorder, but you might want to call it disease.
	What do you think is better?
	I think disorder.
	I think she suggested disorder.
	We have to credit her.
	Check her on the tweeters.
	I have to look her up.
	Apparently she also sent us a note on this.
	Oh, really?
	Just a simple name.
	I don't know who it really is.
	Well, you're the one who suggested there was an email about this.
	No, I saw you...
	If you just go to your tweeter, you're the one that said, yes, this is good, so hold on, I'll find it before you can find it on your own thing.
	I'm good looking now.
	You said nine points is what you...
	I remember the tweet specifically.
	Yeah, I said nine points.
	Nine points.
	The closest we've gotten to anything usable.
	That sounds right.
	And I think...
	Here we go.
	What struck me was the...
	Candace, 737...
	33, Candace has...
	Yeah, Candace in 33.
	She's obviously a fan.
	Obviously.
	She says, involuntary social network disorder.
	There you go.
	And what got me...
	I'll retweet this now so people can see it.
	...jacked up about it, was the word involuntary.
	Yes.
	Because that best describes what goes on, which is people, they automatically take out the phone, they pull it out, they pull it out, they're looking at it, and it's as if they can't stop themselves, which is involuntary.
	That was the key word.
	The rest of it, it's minor, but it's the involuntary part that made her the winner, if we're going to call her that.
	I agree.
	And...
	Yeah, we'll call it involuntary disorder.
	Did she say disorder?
	Yeah, she says disorder.
	Okay, that's what it should be.
	It should be disorder, because it's not a disease.
	You can't cough on somebody, and the next thing you know, they're pulling out their iPhone.
	So this disease has many aspects and facets to it.
	The disorder has many facets to it.
	One, you probably by now saw the JetBlue emergency landing.
	You probably saw it from many different angles and vantage points as people are sitting in the smoke-filled cockpit taking selfies as they are making an emergency landing.
	That is slightly sick.
	Yeah, and proud of it.
	It's falling down in flames.
	Let me get a selfie.
	Literally something is on fire.
	There's real flames happening.
	But there's another angle to this which I found fascinating.
	Someone sent us a very long email about it.
	That was my first introduction to Gamergate, which I believe is a part of this disorder.
	Gamergate, yeah.
	So Gamergate ties into the social justice warriors world.
	Now, I'm only finding out about this now, so I'm a little rusty on explaining the story.
	What has happened is...
	So Social Justice Warriors, which was kind of a meme, which has now flipped around to mean something else.
	We know these people.
	They go around saying, oh, there should be more female role models in video games, as an example.
	And this was being written by a number of female game journalists, gamer review journalists.
	And this is a very small industry compared to the size of the gaming industry itself.
	People reviewing games.
	And it turns out there was a very tight relationship between many so-called journalists who were writing about games who also had PR companies that were promoting the same games they were writing about on a freelance basis.
	So this is very, very sketchy journalism.
	And this turned into this whole Gamergate thing.
	But it appears that there is a real problem.
	Propagandistic movement, which I believe might be spurred by other sources, to inject this type of thinking into these communities.
	So a lot of the injustice against women and gays and racial minorities and you name it.
	And it comes along with this generation that suffers from involuntary social network disorder.
	And it is...
	I believe you have to have an extremely narcissistic nature, which is pretty much what the millennials have when you think about it.
	Most of the millennials have only been taught that they're right.
	You know, they're never wrong.
	You never lose.
	You have a trophy.
	I mean, how can you not be special?
	And it's become...
	You know what I'm talking about.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Keep going.
	And it's become this very...
	This ingrained kind of political correctness is what we used to call it.
	I have an example here.
	This is from three years ago, 2011.
	This was an Occupy Assembly.
	Not Occupy New York, but Ohio or whatever it was.
	And listen to the terminology in this short clip.
	And so this is one of these assemblies where they're, instead of clapping, they're twinkling their fingers, all that bull crap.
	So I didn't get the, you know, I want to say, I want to say, you know, mic check, mic check.
	Didn't get that.
	But listen to the language that is used by this woman, a millennial, leading this assembly, and you'll start to catch my drift, I think.
	What I have to do here, I just want some people to be aware of what's going on, is that they do things by a consensus, which means everyone gets to be heard.
	And the way people speak at their general assemblies is there are facilitators that keep us stacked, which means a list of people who would like to speak.
	In New York, they use something called a progressive stat, which means if you have their name on a list and you come from a traditionally marginalized background, race, gender, ethnicity, anything that is traditionally marginalized, you get bumped up the list.
	So this means we want to be able to hear what everyone has to say.
	Also, one of the things stressed at Occupy Wall Street is the step up, step back.
	This means people who have been privileged all their lives, mainly white men, white women even, people who have been privileged, need to realize that they need to step up and step back if they've already said what they had to say.
	Wow, that is borderline clip of the day already.
	I knew you would love this.
	It's just one step beyond the noodle boy.
	This is the noodle girl, the Occupy girl.
	So the progressive stack, as it's called, and I can't believe we missed this one.
	The progressive stack.
	This is astonishing.
	This is good stuff.
	Thank you.
	You're welcome.
	It's part of the disorder.
	It was the underpinnings of the disorder.
	And you have...
	So the progressive stack, if you are traditionally discriminated, what does he say?
	The marginalized.
	So if you're cripple, if you're black, if you're gay, then you get popped up the stack.
	You get to move ahead.
	You get privileges.
	Yeah, you get privileges.
	And if you are traditionally privileged, white male...
	White man.
	Step up, step back.
	Get out of the way, Whitey!
	Hey, Whitey!
	Shut up!
	We're in control now!
	This is where the social justice warriors come in and start to inject this thinking.
	And if you take into account that we now have the Smith-Munn Act has been revoked, we have this disease, this disorder of people...
	Completely obsessed with the social networking and the beauty of their lives.
	And really, when you look at it, the millennials in particular, but this carries over to multiple generations, but the millennials, their social networking shows and proves to them continuously that they are winners, you see.
	I have the best sunset.
	My kid is really funny.
	Look at my food.
	It's so delicious.
	Like it.
	This is the disorder, and it's now being used against people, and they're going to fall for it.
	Now, the Gamergate is interesting, as now the social justice warrior has been overturned into, okay, this is bogative, so there's some hope.
	But in general, it all fits into this model of using this fantastic network, which it really is.
	To propagandize and really adjust people to what is advantageous to the ruling class.
	Yeah.
	Well, that's always the goal.
	It works well.
	It works well.
	And they get Whitey out of the way because they're always trying to butt in and they're trying to steal their stuff.
	Whitey.
	Yeah.
	I got a fun quote here.
	Zbigniew Brzezinski, our buddy.
	Zbigniew Brzezinski.
	This is when he was head of the...
	Let me get the whole article here.
	This is from...
	Head of our National Security Council writes that, quote, with the use of computers, human behavior itself will become more determined and subject to deliberate programming, and that it, quote, will soon be possible to assert almost continuous surveillance over every citizen.
	I believe that the Nazis and the Minutemen and the Christian movement are going to get very strong and at the same time there's going to be a massive depression.
	I see large masses of people around the globe being deliberately starved every day.
	I see terrible things happening to reduce the population of this earth so that those who control the corporations don't have to provide for the needs of the poor.
	What?
	This is a big?
	This is a big new Brzezinski, yeah.
	And it comes from investigations of fascism in America.
	I'm going to say that this is a proper quote.
	I did not fact check it all the way through, but I'm pretty sure it is.
	Well, it just doesn't sound like him to me.
	It's a good quote, though.
	Yeah, the computerized part.
	Whoever wrote it.
	Yeah.
	Well, I will double-check on that, on the authenticity.
	Was that it?
	Any more?
	Well, the only other thing I wanted to say is that I'm not sure if I spoke about this on the last show, but a lot of people have certainly emailed this to me, that not only did Steve Jobs not allow his kids to have iPads, and I don't know if he didn't allow them to have iPhones, but a number of Silicon Valley CEOs and other Silicon Valley leaders specifically send their children to schools that do not utilize computers and the latest technology.
	And I was talking about this with a friend of mine, and she said to me, you want to check out Wall-E. Have you seen this movie, WALL-E? Oh yeah, of course.
	WALL-E? You haven't seen WALL-E? I had not seen WALL-E. Oh, WALL-E's a great movie.
	And it's a Pixar movie.
	It's a Steve Jobs movie.
	Yeah.
	And it's 2008, so most people were still...
	The president was still using a Blackberry in 2008.
	Right.
	Before he started really hyping his iPhone and the iPad.
	So did you see WALL-E? I saw it last night.
	I watched the whole thing.
	It's a very compelling film.
	It's not only compelling.
	To me, it's almost like a message from the grave.
	Steve Jobs saying, this is where it could leave.
	Steve Jobs didn't write this film.
	It was John Lasseter, of course.
	Right, but it's a Jobs production.
	He may have had a hand in it.
	Because if it was against what he thought, I'm sure he would have bitched to someone.
	Exactly.
	And it's a great movie.
	No dialogue.
	Or only some dialogue.
	No, there's some dialogue with the fat guys on that thing at the end, I think.
	So this is all part of the same thing, and you just see it around you.
	I'm here in Union Square, and this is selfie central right here.
	People aren't enjoying...
	What's his name?
	Justin Ward, who's playing his saxophone on the street.
	They're not sitting there just watching it.
	No, they walk up.
	They don't even give the guy...
	If they give him a buck...
	It's a miracle.
	And they take a selfie and walk on.
	Yeah.
	I gave the guy $10, sat there, listened for two songs, and he said, oh, $10, but you've got to take a CD.
	It's only $10 for the CD.
	I said, all right, I'll take a CD.
	But people aren't enjoying anything anymore.
	They're not looking at the beauty of the heart sculptures on Union Square.
	No, they're just standing in front of it taking selfies of it.
	And we saw this last night at the – you made a very astute point at the reunion.
	Now, Sarah Austin, who I'd never met because I'd kind of left the company before she came in, she took a selfie of you and I and her.
	By the way, nice rabbit ears.
	I didn't catch that at the beginning.
	And I look at the picture, and I look stupid, and you kind of look not great.
	No.
	And you made the point.
	You said, oh no, it's because she took 40 pictures.
	She chose the one that she looked good in.
	Of course!
	This is sickening.
	And you should have known that immediately.
	You're having a little bit of the effect of being in the face.
	You're thinking it's about you.
	I know, I know.
	Yes, I am also affected by the disorder.
	Yeah, we all are.
	But as soon as you said that, I said, oh, why would she do that?
	She's not taking a picture for you.
	She wants a looking picture of herself, and that's what she did.
	So it's very, very sad, and we need to...
	But no, the thing I pointed out was, we're in there, and there's all these guys taking pictures of each other.
	Yeah.
	And with phones, always with phones.
	You know, when it was Matt's birthday and they gave him a cake with ha-ha penises on the frosting.
	Yeah, San Francisco tradition.
	Oh, is that an SF thing?
	Yes, they started, there was years ago some dirty cake maker, it was a woman too, who used to make these phallic, phallicism, all these different kinds of lewd cakes.
	Hmm.
	She became very popular and then other people just kind of jumped on board with these cakes that are lewd.
	They're lewd.
	What can I say?
	They're funny.
	It's like you go to these adult parties and you run into these guys, these jokers.
	There's always the guys.
	Everything's a dirty gag.
	And so he tells dirty jokes and he's got the penis.
	That's got some legs on it, and he winds it up, and the penis walks around on the table.
	You ever seen any of these things?
	And it's just like, okay.
	The little legs, you wind it up.
	It's walking around.
	Hey, look at that.
	Yeah, it's funny.
	Well, I find it to be not funny.
	I don't see the humor in it.
	It's like, ha, ha, ha, whatever.
	Okay.
	But here's what happened.
	So the box gets put in front of Matt.
	They open the box.
	And everybody's like paparazzi.
	Jump on this thing, snapping pictures with their phones and taking video of it.
	And no one experienced Matt.
	And then Matt gets his phone and takes a picture.
	And then Matt takes out his phone and takes a picture.
	This is going too far, people.
	Well, we did have, like I said, we had a couple of nasty notes that have come in from people defending this.
	And you can tell that there's no sense of self-realization.
	Correct.
	I mean, yeah, it's great.
	When this all began before, like, proto pre-Facebook, you can probably remember some of these stories.
	And they were about how, and it was like during the LiveJournal transition to MySpace, which was, I thought MySpace was the giveaway that this was a problem.
	Hold on a second.
	The MyJournal transition to MySpace?
	LiveJournal.
	LiveJournal to MySpace.
	I didn't really recognize that transition.
	Yeah, I did.
	Oh, interesting.
	There was a transitionary period, and when the transition took place, because LiveJournal was pretty restricted, but when MySpace came along and there's all these people putting their pages together, all these animated GIFs, the best collection of animated GIFs ever were eventually People running around, sparkly things.
	It was showing a little bit of this tendency towards self-adulation.
	Well, blogging in general, I think, started that.
	Yeah, I think blogging might have, but especially the diary blogs.
	Eat a cheese sandwich, you know, who cares?
	Anyway, as it was deteriorating, it was like, I didn't know it would go this far, but there was some point I was going to make, and I kind of lost track of it.
	The transition from, you saw this.
	No, it goes back to the penis cake.
	People take the cake.
	Right.
	Well, but here's the thing.
	These pictures have no shelf life.
	None.
	You post it, you get your likes, you move on.
	I don't think many people ever go back to them.
	It's going to make a great collection for the Library of Congress if they just get the archives.
	I wonder if they're also storing the pictures.
	They may only be storing the text.
	I'm not sure if Twitter...
	No, they have to store the pictures.
	I'm not so sure about that.
	Well, the Library of Congress is getting the Twitter feed, so I'm sure they're storing the pictures.
	The Twitter feed is...
	No, I'm...
	Up until recently, most of these pictures were on TwitPic or not even on Twitter's own system.
	So I think there's a lot that...
	Look, when I tweet a picture, the picture is hosted on my server.
	I don't think they're sucking it off my server.
	Oh.
	No, no, no, no, no.
	No, you're probably right there.
	That would be...
	And most of those things will go away.
	I mean, the problem with the...
	You know, we always think that, oh, the storage is free and everything's...
	Ah, it's bullcrap.
	You lose it.
	The drive gets old.
	It doesn't boot anymore.
	You get a new OS. I have at least three drives.
	I'm pretty sure one just will no longer boot up if I connect it.
	And it has pictures on it.
	And it has the old incompatible iPhoto.
	How stupid was I? Oh yes, iPhoto, I'm all in!
	It's a giant file.
	One file and all your pictures are packed in there.
	And some secret protocol that only old iPhoto knows how to unpack.
	Stupid.
	Yeah, most of this stuff is going to be lost.
	Exactly.
	Exactly.
	Which is why we need to get your book out as soon as possible.
	Absolutely.
	In print.
	Yes, in real paperback print.
	Yeah, but this is the world we live in.
	The transition when the Gutenberg printing press came out, it took 300 years from the beginning to an industry.
	And we've witnessed, we are the generation that remembers world before internet and world after internet.
	Or with internet.
	Yeah.
	This is a very special time.
	Well, it went fast.
	Yeah, too fast.
	Yeah, and it's going to destroy civilizations.
	Yes.
	I've said this for years.
	When the thing first showed up, I used to complain about it.
	I think you're absolutely right.
	It's going to destroy civilizations.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	It seems to be happening.
	It seems to be destroying everything around me.
	Yeah.
	Everyone's a moron.
	Yeah.
	Everyone's a freaking moron.
	Nuts.
	Nuts.
	Well, let me take a selfie.
	And with that, I'd like to thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you, John.
	Well, in the morning to you, Adam Curry.
	In the morning to all the ships at sea out there, boots on the ground out there, all the subs in the water, all the dames in the nights.
	Yes.
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	Well, it's not astonishing to me that it works, but it just always makes me very happy.
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	I don't have a note.
	He's got to be moving towards...
	Yeah, he's moving towards something big.
	Yeah, he's on the move.
	Be careful.
	He's nipping at people's needles.
	Well, somebody needs to be the Grand Duke of Canada.
	Hell yeah.
	I don't have a note from him, and I can't find his...
	If he sent an email, because it comes in with his other name.
	Was this a check, or was this...
	No, no, no.
	This was not a check.
	I got very few checks.
	Do I need to look?
	I don't think he's sending me an email anymore.
	Well, I'll look later.
	If there's something, we'll get it eventually.
	Sir Zog of Elwood, Illinois.
	277-77.
	Sir Zog of Elwood here.
	Please, I'm keeping on.
	If I can get a Reverend Manning whoop him with the Constitution and a boom shakalaka, it would be great.
	I love that guy.
	Okay, I can do that, and a boom shakalaka.
	Oh, this is interesting.
	Go away.
	I'm sorry, the Mac is showing me things I don't really want to see.
	Okay, here we go.
	Get out there!
	Whooping, whooping, whooping, whooping, whooping, whooping, whooping, whooping what the Constitution!
	Down!
	Dingo, boom, shagalaka.
	There you go.
	And why don't you add karma there?
	Why not?
	You've got karma.
	Hey, hey, hey!
	Onward.
	Mm-hmm.
	Um, uh, Rosalind Furness in Turnbridge Wells, Kent.
	Ah, I've been through Turnbridge Wells many a time.
	Oh, is it pleasant?
	It sounds pleasant.
	It's a big roundabout.
	2-19-73.
	I've got a nice note here.
	Dear Adam and John, thank you both for your amazing courage and exquisite analysis, without which my life would...
	incomplete.
	Here with my donation of 21973 to support your work in exchange for which I will be hugely grateful for a birthday mention.
	We have that listed on Sunday show.
	Could I please have a triumvirate jingle of the superlative America plus English plus Italian shut up slave the one two three Yeah.
	Some general karma.
	Thank you.
	I also have another request.
	I'm trying to contact my kindred spirit and best person, Mr.
	James Dwyer of Hong Kong, who has not been responding to my emails of late.
	I know he's a regular listener to the best podcast in the universe.
	He hit me in the mouth a few months ago, so I'm hoping he might hear this message.
	And get in touch to let me know he's okay.
	Oh, okay.
	Can you tell him I'm sorry for whatever it was I feel?
	Oh, okay.
	Now we've got a new use for the producer segment.
	Is this the hookup segment, or I'm so sorry?
	I didn't mean that.
	You're going to give us some support.
	You're going to get these messages read.
	Rosaline.
	Can you tell him I'm sorry for whatever it is I said that upset him?
	I'm sure you can empathize with my consternation that his silence otherwise suggested he has purchased himself some white sneakers and a Toyota pickup truck.
	He styled himself as Jihadi Jim, gone off on a whim to join ISIL-ISIS baby, and is currently in a basement making peanut butter and jelly Ebola bombs to sneak across the U.S.-Mexican border.
	Very fine in the morning to you both, Lady Rosie of Kent.
	We still exclude Scotland.
	That's right.
	You're stuck with that for another 400 years.
	And Shoshini's the, uh...
	Yeah, I got the triumvirate for her right here.
	Shut up, slave!
	Stai zitto, schiavo!
	Shut up, slave!
	You've got karma.
	There you go.
	Thank you, Lady Rosie.
	And finally, Sir Howard in Seattle, 2-0-1-0-2.
	Sir Howard, where the electricity never goes down because the city owns its own dams up the mountains.
	And then he compliments you for, a number of people complimenting you for filling time by being a nice DJ on the fly.
	Four and a half hours I did.
	Oh, God.
	Well, the thing is, we didn't know when your power was going to come back on.
	And, you know, it's not like I'm going to say, is it on?
	Is it on?
	Is it on?
	You're going to update me.
	It's off.
	You did fine.
	And then you heard at a certain point.
	I didn't get to hear any of it, so I don't know what you were doing.
	I was playing the jams, brother!
	Yeah, all 80s stuff, I'll bet you.
	Early 80s, actually.
	12 inches.
	Ooh!
	Oh yeah.
	For my birthday, my old buddies from Decibel Radio in Amsterdam, they gave me a USB stick, which I keep in my hollow book.
	Which has everything on it.
	Everything.
	But they digitized these 12-inch import records that we had.
	So you can hear some of the crackle and the hiss.
	The Q-burn?
	You know what Q-burn is, right?
	No.
	Q-Burn is back at...
	Okay, kids.
	Sit on Uncle Adam's lap.
	Okay, kids, I got a story to tell.
	Get on Uncle Adam's lap.
	So the way we used to play records on the radio is you had the record player.
	Now, the turntable, I should say.
	There were two types.
	The very expensive ones were the quick start turntables that could start the record and be up to the full revolution, so 33 or 45, within a quarter turn.
	turntable you didn't use a slip disc well that was the cheap man's version if you didn't if you couldn't afford the very expensive um turntables use a slip mat so you put a vinyl record on the turntable put an oversized slip mat with a relay and the relay uh when um activated which you do through a switch in the fader a little micro switch you i think was 24 volts or 12 volts it would it would clamp down on the slip disc on the slip mat and it would hold it there
	and you could then cue up the record and the way you did that is you you listened to the pre you cued and cue mode so you can hear it outside of the broadcast and you would It's almost like scratching.
	In fact, that's where a lot of it came from.
	And you just do cue at the beginning.
	And then you pull it back like a quarter turn.
	And then when you open the fade, the relay opened, the slip mat caught, and then it would start playing the record.
	Sorry I mentioned it.
	I'm trying to find out what you're talking about with the cue thing.
	So the cue burn is...
	If there was a very popular record, we should...
	Everyone had queued up for three weeks.
	Because it's vinyl and you're sticking a piece of diamond in it, eventually you get this at the beginning of the record.
	Yeah.
	Because it's just overused.
	It's all ground down, yeah.
	Q-Burn.
	Oh.
	That's Q-Burn.
	Oh, Q. Q-Burn.
	Q-Burn.
	There you go.
	I don't know some guy's name.
	Oh, Q-Burn from Q-Burn.
	Hey, Q-Burn, get over here.
	We've got to use some help.
	Thank you all very much.
	These are official credits.
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	Unlike Hollywood, those phonies there, if you need some help, we will gladly vouch for you that it is a real credit.
	And I think that the names Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak stand for something.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Something.
	Cuber.
	I don't know.
	And we'll be doing another show on Thursday and we really do need your help.
	Dvorak.org slash NA. And of course, we continuously need you out there propagating our formula.
	Our formula is this.
	We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
	Order!
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	Fear is freedom!
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	Contradiction is truth!
	Those are the facts of this world!
	And you will all surrender to them!
	You pigs in human clothing!
	Stay here!
	Yeah!
	By the way, you no longer need to email us saying that in the...
	We know this.
	Thank you.
	I get the biggest kick out of people who don't listen to the show much.
	They listen once in a while and then they're not realizing that we cover pretty much 90% of everything.
	Scotland vote.
	Yeah, we should talk about that a little bit.
	Yes.
	I was surprised that they didn't even give...
	You'd expect, just like prison, you've got to let someone escape from time to time to give them the idea that you can get out.
	I've got a note here I want to read before we play any clips.
	Okay.
	And I know what you think, and I know what I think about what happened in all this, but there's a consideration that somebody brought up, Owen McGinty.
	Hmm.
	That I think we need to listen to this.
	Because it's possible that we missed the point of the whole thing.
	Because it was a win-win for Cameron no matter what happened.
	And listen, hear this out.
	And it was funny because when Cameron came out, I do have a...
	In fact, play the Cameron clip that I have so we get a little feeling for what Cameron gave up in the process.
	Our United Kingdom.
	To those in Scotland, sceptical of the constitutional promises that were made, let me say this.
	We have delivered on devolution under this government and we will do so again in the next Parliament.
	The three pro-union parties have made commitments, clear commitments, on further powers for the Scottish Parliament.
	We will ensure that those commitments are honoured in full.
	And I can announce today that Lord Smith of Kelvin, who so successfully led Glasgow's Commonwealth Games, has agreed to oversee the process to take forward these devolution commitments with powers over tax, spending and welfare, all agreed by November and draft legislation published by January.
	Just as the people of Scotland will have more power over their affairs, so it follows that the people of England, Wales, and Northern Ireland must have a bigger say over theirs.
	I just spent the last two weeks in Scotland, he writes, on holiday with my wife's family, and the whole thing was embarrassing with all the yes posters and boards everywhere imaginable.
	And anyone sticking up for the union got jumped on by the yes group like a pack of rabbit dogs.
	My wife is a Scot, and she kept showing me the Facebook drivel that was going on and the slagging off they were doing against each other, which is another thing that relates to our issues.
	Mm-hmm.
	It will take a while for some of the wounds to heal on this one.
	Anyway, the big thing to come out of this was as soon as the no vote came through, Cameron came up with a gem of an idea to stop Scottish ministers from voting on English-only issues after they promised more powers to the Scottish Parliament after a no vote.
	At the moment, MPSs from all four parts of the Union...
	Can draft laws affecting the UK and England.
	However, with the devolution, Scotland, Northern Ireland, and Wales have their own parliaments and assemblies that set their own rules, which the English have no say on.
	This means that it will make it harder for the Labour Party to get a majority of the English MPSs, as they have loads of Scots, all the Scots are Labour, Scottish MPSs with the Conservatives only have one in Scotland.
	So it appears that the whole thing has been one big scam to get the Conservatives more permanent control over England.
	They knew all along that a no vote was likely as the Scots in general are pretty well off bunch and the majority are very happy.
	But if they did vote yes, they would get the same result for the Conservatives.
	So his thesis is that this was just a scam for the Conservatives in England to wrest control of the Parliament overseeing the English themselves.
	This whole thing, no matter what happened in Scotland, because it seems peculiar if you look at it, that they would have this election at all.
	And Cameron makes a big deal about, well, we did it because there was some popular demand for it.
	If the whole thing was a circumvention, an attempt to lock control of England and essentially the UK. Unfortunately, you did use the word essentially in that, which is sad because your rant is good.
	I have a substitute word I've discovered.
	Fundamentally.
	Wow.
	Fundamentally, they have done an end run on the labor movement and all the everybody except the conservatives.
	That's a fantastic maneuver.
	This should go down as one of the best political plays in a long time.
	Do you think it was really set up this way?
	I believe that.
	Now, thinking back on it, if you look at the timeline, it has to be.
	They had a meeting.
	Over dinner.
	And they decided that, you know, what can we do to fuck these other guys?
	And this is it.
	They did it.
	And it was a no-lose situation for the Conservative Party in England.
	Because if the Scots ran off and the other two boneheads would do the same thing, Wales would want their own thing.
	Northern Ireland would want their own thing, so they could split them off if they wanted to.
	Then all the Labour Party ministers that are in the House of Lords, not the House of Lords, but the Parliament.
	They're all...
	All the labor side is all from these other places.
	They're not from South England.
	And the only thing they have to worry about now is UKIP. And I think those guys could probably...
	They're going to have to kill Farage because he is UKIP. Yeah, well, they tried already, you know.
	Yeah, a couple times, but certainly the plane, they tried to kill him in the plane.
	Yeah.
	And I think he also had a car accident, I believe.
	He should stay out of hot tubs, that's for sure.
	This is not a good place for him.
	But even my buddy Michelle, you know, the gangster from the UK, who came to my wedding and was at my birthday party, he also says, I'm voting UKIP. This is, and I hear more and more people, they're going to be in a coalition, regardless, they're in.
	They're going to be in a coalition, so they will be part of it, and the only way is to kill him.
	It's almost like Pim Fortin in the Netherlands.
	Once they killed him, which a week before parliamentary elections, it's a sniper on the roof, a crazy animal rights activist who, by the way, has served his time and is now out and a free man.
	How crazy is the Netherlands?
	Yeah, it's pretty bad.
	That's the first time in my lifetime that I knew someone who was murdered, and the murderer served his time.
	And I mentioned this to someone in the Netherlands.
	Rightfully so.
	He's a free man.
	He served his time.
	That was so hard for me to parse.
	Oh, no.
	It's so hard for me to parse that.
	Anyway, so when this note comes in and I read it and I go, that's the only explanation.
	With this in mind, everything makes sense.
	I think that's a very astute observation.
	Yeah.
	So we're all scammed.
	Even you and I. Yeah.
	Well, we were only scammed so long.
	We're not living in a scam.
	Yeah.
	And I also think that the vote bites.
	So I was reading something that there was a 10% margin of error on the initial count, which is pretty much exactly the margin of the win.
	And of course, by now I would presume people have seen the video.
	If not, it's in the show notes.
	654.noagendanotes.com Where you see yes votes on the no vote pile.
	You see people who are counting the votes.
	in the no pile.
	And this is pretty well documented.
	Now, that's not enough to show a 10% difference, but...
	Yeah, it could be rigged.
	Aren't all elections ultimately rigged?
	I don't trust any elections.
	I don't think that...
	I would be of the opinion...
	We do have a...
	There was an analyst that came on.
	I do have a clip of this.
	This guy...
	Yeah, I said, this is an over.
	He's at Oxford.
	He's at one of the King's College.
	I'm from Christchurch.
	I'm not sure.
	He's at one of those colleges at Oxford.
	And he had an analysis of...
	He's reasonable...
	He made a bunch of reasonable assumptions.
	You can play that.
	This is the summary?
	Yeah.
	Support Scottish independence have shown how committed some of them are to the cause over this campaign.
	And the idea that they're simply going to completely give up on their principles because of one rather narrow defeat is clearly not going to happen.
	There's not going to be another referendum tomorrow.
	There's not going to be another referendum next year.
	But there could well be another referendum at some point in the future.
	And if you consider where we were, say, six months ago, what the polls were looking like six months ago, they've made very spectacular progress.
	And added to that, the fact that a referendum has happened at all is remarkable, which is why so many people around the world are fascinated by it.
	Mmm.
	So That it happened at all.
	Yeah.
	There was another election that took place that did not receive a lot of coverage.
	I did watch part of the ramp up to this, and I have a little clip here.
	This was a very, to me, disturbing event to watch.
	I didn't watch all of it.
	This was in New Zealand.
	It was Kim.com, the Mega Man.
	And he had a conference which they called Moment of Truth.
	And on this moment of truth, they brought in two people via Skype or Hangout.
	I think they used Google Hangout because, let's be honest.
	And one was Julian Assange, and the other was, of course, Edward Snowden.
	And it was so uncomfortable to watch as they bring in...
	Assange has been on for a while, and he's, of course, still locked up in the embassy, I guess.
	Who knows where he is.
	He makes appearances.
	I think he looks pretty good now.
	He has a much better look with a little...
	He's eating better food, probably.
	Ecuadorian.
	And they bring Snowden in, and it's a standing ovation, and everyone's blowing him, and it's just...
	And then he's, of course, now he is Mr.
	Policy.
	Which he's not.
	He's very poor.
	His wording and his articles are very poorly chosen.
	I find him not to be...
	He's telling us what democracy is, and he's a little off base if you read the article that he wrote in Intercept.
	That's the $250 million WordPress blog run by...
	Umadar.
	So let's just listen to this for one moment, and I'll tell you the political side to this, which had interesting results.
	And where am I? Oh, here.
	Welcome Edward Snowden.
	Woo!
	I got the chance!
	Snowden!
	Snowden!
	Woo!
	I got a hoodie!
	Woo!
	Fuck yeah!
	Yeah!
	Hello, New Zealand!
	Hello, Cleveland!
	I'm telling you, this is like U2 status here.
	Hello, New Zealand!
	And of course, with the glasses with the broken nose pad.
	And they have some on the screen.
	You see Snowden going, yeah, he's laughing.
	And Assange next to him.
	Just cower.
	Sorry.
	On another screen.
	Split screen, yeah.
	Okay.
	And he's just, because of course.
	Because he didn't get the big ovation.
	No, he doesn't get any of that.
	And he feels gypped.
	I would too.
	He's sitting there.
	Especially with me up there, like a schmuck.
	My picture up there where they're applauding the guy next to me.
	I'm not used to this kind of welcome.
	I'm so humbled.
	Ed, I've got to tell you that we're in the Auckland Town Hall at the Democratic Centre of the biggest city in New Zealand.
	We have a packed hall.
	There are 800 people who have not been able to get in tonight.
	They wanted to hear you.
	We owe you our gratitude.
	Thank you.
	We've got to get this accent.
	It's very hard.
	This accent is great.
	Yeah.
	We have 800 people who are saying...
	I can't do that.
	It's got a certain screechiness to it that is very, very distinctive.
	Thank you.
	And now I think your old mate Glenn has a few questions to ask.
	Your old mate Glenn.
	So Glenn Greenwald, who was at the event, paid...
	It came.com, flew him in, and.com spent a couple million bucks, and we'll talk about what he spent it on in a moment.
	So he's on the dais there.
	I do, I do.
	The journalist in me will never die.
	And when I see Edward Snowden, I eat his grass.
	Me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me.
	He sounds like Beaker on the old Muppet show.
	But when he says, the old journalist in me will never die, did he stop being a journalist?
	Is he back to being a lawyer?
	Is he an author now?
	Is he a movie writer?
	Is he no longer a journalist?
	Is that what he's telling us?
	Well, he's subtly telling us.
	I think your old mate, Glenn, has a few questions to ask.
	Glenn!
	Glenn!
	I do, I do.
	The journalist in me will never die.
	The journalist in me, okay.
	Will never die.
	I see Edward Snowden.
	I need to start asking questions.
	If I could actually get one thing in there, I just want to point out, it was interesting that you said the town hall event is taking place in Auckland, because we're talking about mass surveillance, we're talking about everything that's going on, and the fact that the prime minister has denied that there is no mass surveillance in New Zealand, that these are only cyber protection programs, and even though they were contemplating them, they never went forward.
	He heroically put a stop to this at the 11th hour, and none of us know what's going on.
	But, you know, there are actually NSA facilities in New Zealand that the GCSV is aware of, and that means the Prime Minister is aware of.
	And one of them is in Auckland.
	Another one is in the north of the country.
	Yeah, Ed, we'll do the jokes, okay?
	Because it's not funny, whatever you were laughing at.
	I'll leave it there.
	Glenn, please go ahead.
	Yeah, so...
	Wow!
	Awesome!
	Awesome!
	It is fucking awesome!
	Isn't New Zealand part of Five Eyes?
	Of course!
	Okay, so the whole idea here was the slogan to shut one of the five eyes.
	We're going to knock one of the five eyes closed.
	And Kim.com, who as we know is fighting extradition to the United States, and who has become a super celebrity hero...
	Of the stupid as far as I'm concerned.
	I know guys like this.
	I know guys like this.
	I'm just providing a locker service.
	They got money and the hookers and the planes and the selfies and the I'm God on your license plate.
	I'm sorry.
	People like this are douchebags.
	He's just a douchebag.
	Come on, he's a fucking douchebag.
	I'm sorry.
	You're telling me he's a douchebag?
	Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
	And you're telling me that if he said, hey, Adam and John, will you fly your boat?
	I would not go.
	Really?
	Well, you're a douchebag suck-up.
	No, I wouldn't.
	No.
	Okay.
	I don't like these people.
	Okay.
	I've been around rich people like this, and it's dumb.
	He does this for huge deficiencies in his personality.
	I know this kind of personality.
	Yeah, okay.
	Well, go on with your thesis.
	He had put several million...
	What was he running for?
	Ah, okay.
	Maybe we should start with the beginning.
	Yes, well, there was an election in New Zealand, and he teamed up with the Maori Mana Party, who had a seat in Parliament.
	The Maori, the native population?
	Yes, the Maori, yes.
	The Mana Party.
	They had one or two seats, I think just one.
	Probably just one.
	And he came in with a couple million shekels.
	What do they use in New Zealand?
	Shekels.
	Shekels.
	Wampum.
	Came in with a couple million wampum, set this whole thing up.
	This was part of a big rally.
	And not only did they...
	The Mana Party lost the only seat they had.
	What?
	Yes!
	Now they have no seat, thanks!
	And now came DotCom saying, yeah, well, yeah, looks like I was poisoned after all.
	Yeah!
	Because normal people don't like blowhards like that.
	It's okay, you can be a Donald Trump kind of person, or what's that other guy who I kind of like in Australia...
	Who's the big blowhard.
	Kerry Packer?
	Who got a seat as well in the last election.
	I don't know.
	People don't like people like this.
	This is not the kind of politician you want.
	No, it's not the kind you're going to vote in office, that's for sure.
	Clive Palmer.
	You're not necessarily going to vote anything he wants you to do because it always has something to do with them.
	So Key voted in still with a huge majority because the people, what's happening is Snowden and all the people in Berlin, if they're not spies, you're in a circle, jerk people.
	There is fatigue.
	No one cares anymore.
	I'm sorry, if anyone sees Edward Snowden, all they want to do is pop a selfie.
	That's my new turn.
	It should be popping a selfie.
	I think that's the proper verbiage.
	Pop a selfie.
	They want to pop a selfie.
	So John Key led the National Party to an overwhelming victory, and the Mana Party lost the only seat they had.
	Thanks!
	Now the indigenous people have no vote.
	Good work, Kim!
	Good work, Snowden!
	Good work, Glenn!
	Maybe that was the idea.
	I can hardly believe that.
	But there is a faction of people.
	We saw some of them yesterday at the pod show reunion.
	The New Zealanders are fairly, I think, farmers and down-to-earth in a certain kind of way, at least the majority of the people, not the intellectual class, that find the arrogance of people like Glenn Greenwald and even Snowden, not to mention.com, extremely offensive.
	Yes.
	This is not how you run...
	There's no humility amongst any of those people.
	There's absolutely zero humility.
	It's a part of the ISND. These people, who are arguably millennials, think they can do no wrong.
	It's a circle jerk of 800 people, all clapping, they really love Ed Snowden!
	Stupid!
	If you want to change something, you've got to assassinate some people.
	This is not going to help.
	This is not how revolution works.
	It's just a thought.
	I'm not actually telling it.
	I'm just saying how it works, typically.
	Well, there's a lot of ways it works that it's not working because they've got the wrong people, the wrong ideas, and they're just out to make more money for themselves.
	And there is absolute 100% fatigue.
	No one cares anymore.
	They just don't care about what's happening.
	It's a punchline.
	It's just become a punchline.
	Speaking of punching, the only punch we care about is the NFL people punching their wives.
	Well, you had a theory about that.
	Last night you said you had a theory about it.
	There's something going on.
	The theory's not complete.
	But I did get this curious BART story, which you can queue up, but let me set it up.
	When I heard this, I'm thinking to myself...
	Self?
	Because this NFL... It was kind of an overnight sensation, and it was non-stop.
	And now, the way I see it, football players, and I don't want to offend anybody, ex-football players out there, but you guys know.
	Sorry, we just offended Snowden, Glenn Greenwald, Kim Dotcom, everyone who loves them.
	Those guys aren't going to come over and punch me.
	They're not listening.
	But the football players, even when you're in high school, they were always abusive people.
	They abused their teammates.
	They abused their students that weren't on the football team.
	They were very abusive.
	Bullies, I tell you.
	They were all bullies, and they were all very bully-ish to win.
	And they always treated the cutest cheerleaders like crap.
	Yeah.
	And we always thought that we could go, hey, baby, I'm a real man.
	And that never worked.
	No, no.
	The cheerleaders seemed to like it.
	One time, one time, I had a cheerleader girlfriend.
	Brief.
	You did now.
	Yeah.
	And I was 15, she was 16.
	That was a big difference in those days.
	Yeah.
	Creepy.
	So...
	She's dead now, by the way.
	Well, that's not...
	Why are you putting a buzzkill on my story here?
	She said she died of cancer and I always feel like...
	That was terrible.
	I was lucky.
	I feel very privileged that I made out with her.
	Boy.
	Stop coming to San Francisco.
	It's affecting you negatively.
	No kidding.
	Bad vibes.
	Anyway, these guys were all...
	You always assumed for years that half of them are wife beaters.
	So now all of a sudden it becomes a big deal and it snowballs and all the rest of it.
	So I think there's something else going on when I hear this story, which is this BART story.
	Governor Brown has until the end of the month to sign a bill extending a pilot program that keeps problem riders off the system.
	BART started the prohibition order program last May in an effort to curb violence against employees and other riders at stations and in parking lots.
	But after police took a look at the numbers, they were surprised to learn that it was domestic violence that led to the most orders being issued.
	One of the court orders for the custody exchanges is that BART's a neutral site and usually they will use BART as a drop off for exchanges. - It is.
	KTVU found that in 2013 from May to December there were a total of 146 arrests Huh.
	Not to mention the fact that now the BART police...
	BART police is like the mall cop.
	BART police is now going to be able to sign court orders.
	But they have guns already, don't they?
	Oh, they've had guns.
	Yeah, they have guns and tasers.
	All along.
	Yeah, because that way they can shoot the poor kid.
	I didn't know it was my gun, I thought it was my taser.
	That's what happened a couple years ago.
	But the domestic violence thing comes in, so I'm thinking there's a...
	There is really an effort being made.
	I think it's going to be big.
	I think there's enough women that have finally gotten fed up because there's situations that have happened where you can argue that there are some women that...
	My wife always likes to say this.
	Some women need to be hit.
	She would say something like that.
	But there's situations...
	Hold on a second.
	That was Mimi Dvorak.
	Mimi Dvorak says that.
	Some women need to be hit in the face or just in the arm?
	No, she just finds a lot of women annoying.
	Wow!
	Go Mimi!
	No wonder you live somewhere else.
	Yeah, well, I didn't get killed.
	But the point is that this kind of thing has been getting worse, and there's...
	A lot of women that can, you know, I don't know if they deal with it or how they handle it, but it's just created a situation that's completely out of control.
	And I think it's being reined in with a concerted effort, and I think this is going to be a...
	Any domestic violence...
	You're going to see TV shows and sitcoms about this.
	It's going to be everywhere.
	And they're going to put...
	If you hit a woman, and it's always a bad idea, if you hit a woman, no matter what she's coming...
	And at you with a baseball bat.
	And by the way, there's plenty of domestic abuse cases where women attack the men.
	They get some little wimpy guy and the women eat the crap out of him.
	That is very underreported and under-discussed.
	Underreported, but well-known.
	But I think it's going to...
	This is all coming to a head.
	We're not going to have any more of this.
	We're not putting up with this.
	Okay.
	So, yes, my thinking on this dovetails into what your thinking is.
	I saw a distinct coordination Yeah, that guy.
	The gay guy who's running TMZ who hangs out with his coffee cup and is talking to his editors.
	This is where the NBA scandal came from.
	This is where this comes from.
	So you give him the tape.
	Because TMZ, that's of huge reach.
	Huge, huge reach this thing has.
	Amongst the ISND sufferers.
	Because that's what a lot of people see on their smartphones.
	Now this tape was not new.
	This tape was months old.
	The tape was around.
	Why did it hit right now?
	It hit on the anniversary of this.
	Also today, the president signed a reauthorization of the Violence Against Women Act, first passed back in 1994, but recently held up because of budget fighting, of all things.
	The law makes it easier to prosecute domestic violence crimes in federal court.
	It provides funding for services, including battered women's shelters and hotlines.
	During today's ceremony, the president said, quote, all women have the right to live free from fear.
	I believe it's political.
	I think it was poorly executed because they didn't have a Republican to point at immediately.
	But if you look around, you'll see MSNBC, you see a number of Washington Times, you see a number of articles talking about the poor record of Republicans on violence against women.
	Yes, this is what I think.
	I think they executed poorly or maybe the ISIS-ISIL thing got in the way.
	Because it was tied perfectly with lots of articles about how great the president was on the anniversary of his reauthorizing the act one year ago to date when this came out.
	So I think yes, you are right.
	And here is the meme I'm looking for.
	Republicans are wife beaters.
	This is what we're going to see.
	I think that's what's in play.
	They didn't work it out properly.
	Something wasn't set up right or something interfered.
	Well, this is part of the long-term, long arc of getting all women in the United States to vote Democrat.
	Right.
	Yeah, and it's working very well.
	Oh my God, you're going to get killed.
	You're going to get killed in your own house and all that sort of thing.
	And it's...
	I don't know if it's working as well as they'd like.
	I mean, it's working.
	You can tell when there's an election that women tend to vote Democrat now.
	And I don't think...
	I don't think nine out of ten of them can give you a reason why.
	Except, well, you know, there's always, it's just some vague liberal notions that there's a reason they voted there.
	I think it's a better person.
	I don't know.
	I mean, this is a horrible thing.
	And the Republicans have no countermeasures.
	None.
	Except women who are gun-toting women.
	You know, it's not necessarily a charming group.
	I got one of them.
	Gun-toting women.
	Who was I talking to?
	Erin, the database lesbian, at the reunion yesterday, who I really like.
	We've always had a good relationship.
	And she's like, I don't like Texas!
	I said, why?
	I said, I don't like Texas!
	I said, why?
	I said, what?
	They don't like dykes.
	Austin is pretty dyke friendly.
	We have a gay nude beach for old ugly gay dudes.
	But the gay guys don't like the dykes.
	I said, ugh, okay.
	And then I said, but I like it.
	So she's basically living her life based on stereotypes that have been fed her by the media.
	Yes.
	And then I love to say things like, well, I really enjoy it.
	And everyone's very polite.
	And I always take a beat and say, because we're all armed.
	You know, and say, hey, please, you go first.
	No, after you.
	And they say, but you're not carrying a gun, are you?
	I said, no, I don't really see a need for a concealed carry, but yeah, I have one in the car.
	My wife, you know, a socialist, banned the bomb commie from Holland.
	She carries a gun in her car and she likes it.
	That just fries people's brains.
	Keep that sound effect.
	That sounds exactly like somebody's brain frying.
	Yeah, no, it does.
	It's, you know...
	Women like to shoot.
	They're good, too.
	No, Mickey has that laser sight.
	But she doesn't like her gun.
	She wants a bigger one.
	She finds the Sig Sauer.380 to be too puny.
	It's too small for my hands.
	She wants a Glock.
	She wants a Glock.
	Yeah, that'd be a good gun for her.
	Anyway.
	I don't know.
	I'm a little worried, you know.
	Well, it sums up with this, and I think it's just going to build to a crescendo.
	But again, it's all about getting women to vote Democrat.
	Totally.
	It's going to be very interesting.
	The problem is when all is said and done...
	It's the economy.
	Is that the equivalent of at the end of the day?
	Yes, I'm working on that too.
	I like this one.
	I like it.
	I like when all is said and done.
	I like that.
	It's a good one.
	Okay, here's my substitutions.
	Essentially becomes fundamentally.
	Okay.
	I don't need the word.
	Weird becomes strange balls.
	Strange balls.
	No, no.
	Strange balls is for Bowton.
	No, no.
	Strange balls.
	I'm using it as a transition because I can break the habit of saying that easier.
	Why not just say unusual?
	Unusual is really the word you're looking to use.
	Strange balls.
	No, no, no, no.
	Strange balls.
	I'm not going to use it.
	Strange balls.
	Okay.
	And what are the substitutions?
	At the end of the day, of course.
	I don't say at the end of the day.
	I said it once, I think, ever.
	No, but we discussed last night.
	So I'm watching Chuck Todd.
	It's being recorded as we're doing the show.
	Who I saw announced on...
	He joined another NBC... I wish I'd recorded another NBC program.
	And maybe, I don't know, whatever the douche is of the nightly news.
	He says, here with us is the new moderator of Meet the Press.
	And you could see Chuck Todd go...
	Because you want to be the host, the star.
	You don't want to be the moderator.
	So I think they're giving him this moderator.
	He's making a lot of...
	They're already after him.
	If you work in...
	People out there who don't work have ever done anything in television or anything like television or radio, even to the lesser extent.
	But in television, the crew, if they take a dislike to you...
	Oh, you're dead.
	You might as well give up.
	So I'm watching the show this morning before the show as you're fixing your stuff.
	Mm-hmm.
	And I've recorded a couple of things, including Mike Mullen, the ex-head, you know, he was before Dempsey, he was the head of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.
	Yes, yes, yes, sure.
	I got this tape.
	I have this recorded.
	I'll put it on the Thursday show.
	You'll just crack up.
	Chuck is going back and forth, and Mullen is looking him up and down in a very peculiar way.
	I thought it was extremely offensive.
	He's just up and down, up and down constantly when he's talking to him, like he's talking to an idiot.
	And at the end, Mullen says, or he says, thanks, Admiral.
	He's an admiral.
	Thanks, Admiral.
	Admiral for being here says, you're welcome, John.
	Oh, no.
	So I actually went back to look to see Chuck Todd's full name, which is Charles David, just to make sure he didn't have a nickname, John.
	His real name is John, and they call him Chuck.
	Because John Charles could be called...
	I can see that.
	Right, right, right, right.
	No, there's no John anywhere.
	His dad's not John either.
	So, thanks, John.
	That's funny.
	It's a Brolf moment.
	That's really...
	Well, hold on a second.
	Then we might as well play the Brolf if we're going to talk about it.
	Dr.
	Fauci, thanks so much, as always, for joining us.
	Good to be here, Brolf.
	I don't know why that is one of the funniest clips.
	That's great.
	Thanks, bro.
	So, now I'm looking at the show a little differently because I was reading when I was looking up John Todd.
	They did redesign the show, and here's the way it's done.
	There's two big glass tables.
	There's one in the foreground, and that's where Chuck John goes to talk to somebody and do a mini-interview, and then he gets up and goes to the other table where there are four people seated.
	And by the way, when he's talking to Mullen in the foreground, those four people are in the background, visible.
	And not even focus polled?
	You really see them clearly?
	No depth of field.
	Right.
	Actually, there's plenty of depth of field.
	And anyway, so he gets up and he goes over there and sits down and then they talk about what they talked about.
	I mean, the guy was right there.
	Why don't they have everybody talking to him?
	Oh, stupid.
	It's Todd talking to him.
	Then Todd goes and talks to the journalists who ask Todd questions.
	It's like, what?
	Yeah.
	No, I can't watch this.
	And so it's unwatchable.
	And so there's a moment.
	This is a change of format then.
	Yeah, they changed the format.
	It was stupid.
	It was stupid format.
	So now Chuck is sitting in the middle.
	It's also old-fashioned.
	One guy in the middle, two flankers.
	That's a throwback to the original Meet the Press.
	I guess.
	Whatever the case is, it doesn't work in today's world.
	He's waving his pen in front of somebody's face because he's got a clip.
	That he wants to play.
	He says, well, that brings us back to 2002 when the Republicans were running these ads.
	It was related to the conversation.
	Meanwhile, the shot is a pen in his hand in front of somebody's face.
	Because the shot's at an angle and he's like waving his pen trying to get somebody's attention.
	So he says, and then there was these ads from 2002.
	And then he, there's nothing.
	Oh, it didn't fire?
	No!
	They didn't fire.
	And then he waits and waits and waits.
	And so he goes back and he starts talking again as though nothing happened.
	Oh, gosh.
	But this is recorded.
	They could have fixed that in post.
	And I think it's live to tape and they're not going to fix anything in post.
	And they go, at the end, when he goes to the break, he says, well, you know, it's only the third week of this.
	And sorry about it.
	He apologized for the never rolling.
	They never...
	Never rolled it.
	Never rolling this clip.
	Two clips he had.
	They never rolled either one of them.
	Then he said something about the control room.
	Something nasty.
	I'll have it for the next show.
	Something nasty about the control room.
	And then when they cut away to the commercial, they leave the camera on him.
	And in the process, you get to see him make this grimace and this mean look over to the right.
	Yeah, I bet.
	I'll bet.
	Because he left that live.
	That's funny.
	So this is going to be a real funny situation.
	I love it.
	I love it.
	We'll keep our eye on that.
	Okay, let's talk about...
	Climate change, Agenda 21.
	First, a callback to Thursday's show.
	We had Naomi Klein, who you think I adore.
	You do.
	She has something about her look I like.
	It's true.
	There's something about her.
	Yeah.
	But she's annoying.
	And here is...
	Yes, indeed.
	We picked up on this little ditty here.
	The fact is, if we're going to respond to this crisis, we need to break a whole bunch of the free market rules that these guys hold very dear.
	We need to regulate.
	We need to get in the way of the fossil fuel companies who have made it clear that they are willing to dig up five times more carbon than our atmosphere can absorb and still stay below catastrophic warming.
	So this is...
	Five times.
	Yeah, this is what I... A couple of people figured this one out.
	This is all from the 350.org...
	Right.
	Operation.
	And this is the climate maths that they have come up with.
	And there is a very specific math that they have, which of course is really not provable one way or the other, about the climate, the carbon bubble.
	I'll give you the exact numbers here.
	I have it.
	And this is what she's basing it on.
	There's a reason that all of this is happening at this very moment.
	This comes from the Carbon Tracker.
	The number is...
	Okay.
	This award-winning analysis by Carbon Tracker.
	And this is a subset of the 350.org people.
	In 2011, the world has used over a third of its 50-year carbon budget...
	Oh yeah, it gets better.
	And who did this budget?
	Did they have a meeting?
	They got an award for it.
	Was there a budget meeting?
	Yep, they got an award for it.
	The budget is to keep the warm...
	This is all about keeping the warming of the Earth under the 2 degrees centigrade.
	And here, all of the proven reserves owned by public and private companies and governments are equivalent to 2,795 gigatons of carbon dioxide.
	Now, how they calculate this, I don't know, but they won an award, so why question it?
	They won an award from who?
	Well, let me see.
	The City of London Sustainability Awards, of course.
	Oh, who does those awards?
	I'm sure Goldman Sachs.
	No, I doubt it.
	Fossil fuel reserves owned by the top 100 listed coal and top 100 listed oil and gas companies represent total emissions of 745 gigatons of carbon dioxide.
	So the way they boil this down is that the important number is that 2795 gigatons and that is five times the budget of The budget that would keep the Earth's warming within 2 degrees centigrade.
	Now, of course, this is bunk because the Earth has been stable in its warming for the past 15, 16 years, even though we have surpassed the 350 parts per million, which all of this 350.org is based on.
	But this is all coming out with very specific reason.
	Naomi Klein's book.
	Also, this is the director of the OMB, the Office of Management and Budget.
	In the government, OMB? Or Oversight?
	Oversight?
	I think it's Oversight.
	This is an independent organization, independent from government, that's what they're supposed to be, who determine the cost or benefit of policy.
	Here's the director speaking at the Center for American Progress, which is pretty much the mecca of democratic, liberal, progressive policy.
	And I found what he had to say to be so broad, particularly coming from the director of OMB, that it really borders on a fireable, a sackable offense.
	Climate action is a must-do.
	Climate inaction is a can't-do.
	Hello, romper room!
	Let's make sure we all understand, doobies!
	And climate denial scores.
	And...
	I don't mean scores like the average person would think scoring points on a board.
	I mean that it scores in the budget.
	Climate denial will cost us billions and billions of dollars.
	This is the sackable offense.
	As a director of OMB, you cannot just make a blanket statement about billions and billions of dollars.
	Is that $2 billion?
	Is it $200 billion?
	Do you have a calculation of this?
	I find that to be highly offensive.
	The failure to invest in climate solutions and climate preparedness.
	Write these words down.
	Climate preparedness?
	Yes.
	Oh yes.
	And climate solutions.
	Doesn't get you membership in a fiscal conservatives caucus.
	It makes you a member of the Flat Earth Society.
	Very funny play on words.
	Can you play that again?
	The whole thing?
	No, just that last part where he's talking about one thing and then it goes to flat earth.
	I've got to get that transition.
	Ready?
	Climate solutions and climate preparedness doesn't get you membership in a fiscal conservatives caucus.
	Back it, back it, back it, back it, back it, back, back, back, back further.
	Okay.
	I mean that it scores in the budget.
	Climate denial will cost us billions and billions of dollars.
	The failure to invest in climate solutions and climate preparedness doesn't get you membership in a fiscal conservatives caucus.
	It makes you a member of the Flat Earth Society.
	Climate denial doesn't just fly in the face of the overwhelming judgment of science.
	It is fiscally foolish.
	And while we cannot say with certainty that any individual event is caused by climate change, it's clearly increasing the frequency and intensity of many different kinds of severe weather events.
	Obviously, he's now a meteorologist and a climatologist.
	The costs of climate change add up, and ignoring the problem only makes it worse.
	Abhorrent.
	From him.
	I can hear this from lots of people.
	So now we're saying that, let's see, failure to invest makes you flat-earth.
	Yes.
	So if you vote against policies of investing in preparedness and solutions, yeah, you're a flat-earther.
	Yeah, okay.
	That's logical.
	Which means you're anti-science, you see.
	The science is in!
	Well, if anybody's anti-science, it's these people.
	So today, we have the People's Climate March.
	Yes, this is what you wanted to do.
	You told me.
	You teased this.
	I did.
	On the last show.
	Oh, no.
	I'm sorry.
	You teased it at dinner.
	I did.
	And then I reminded you for the newsletter.
	If you go to peoplesclimate.org, this is very interesting to see.
	And I don't know if anyone's in New York.
	This is supposed to be, and it's all timed with the 23rd.
	The 23rd is Bunky Moon's failing, flailing, I should say, climate conference, where, as we discussed on Thursday, many of the world leaders are not coming from Canada, Scandinavia, from But we have Leonardo DiCaprio.
	So that's good.
	We've got Ritardo DiCaprio.
	And he'll be leading the march.
	I have no idea...
	Is he a climatologist?
	I've never heard of him.
	Famous climatologist?
	He is a Wall Street banker.
	He flies big airplanes.
	He drowns off of big boats.
	Does he fly big airplanes?
	Yes, he does.
	Aren't those like carbon footprint issues?
	No.
	Right.
	Go to peoplesclimate.org.
	I'm here.
	Okay.
	Now, nowhere can you really see who this is.
	This is what's very interesting about this.
	About 100-plus world leaders gathered in New York City.
	And they have little boxes here.
	2,808 solidarity events in 166 countries.
	I don't know if this is really the big super people's march that they intended it to be, but I do want to tell you who's behind this.
	Rising tide, rising rants.
	I'm reading from the signage.
	Now, the people behind this, very interesting.
	We have 350.org and Avaaz, A-V-A-A-Z.org.
	And together, they have co-founded Purpose.
	It's crazy.
	Purpose.com.
	And so Avaaz and Australia's GetUp, which is a subset of 350.org, created this Purpose, which is a commercial for-profit company where they do consulting.
	Oh, yeah.
	This is really good.
	Meanwhile, they walk around and name and shame everybody as...
	This is like a rainbow coalition.
	Totally.
	That's a very good analogy.
	Very good.
	So it's a...
	What do you call it when you tell someone you're going to beat them up if they don't give you money?
	What's that called?
	Gangster?
	Well, there's that, yeah.
	I'll come up with it.
	Never mind.
	I'm looking at the avaz.org site, and the first thing that comes up, of course, is that stupid photo of this polar bear.
	Yeah, I know.
	Everybody knows that polar bears, really, they're doing okay.
	The World Wildlife Foundation has canceled contracts with people we know to fly resources because the polar bears, they have to start shooting them.
	There's too many of them.
	You gotta get rid of this.
	Nobody wants to talk about that.
	And nobody wants to talk about the guys who saw that polar bear, who actually did that.
	It's not a fake.
	Some guy on the ship, he talked about this.
	That photo's been debunked because apparently polar bears are extremely curious.
	It's They're always trying to get near something going on, see what's going on.
	And there was a chunk of ice, and the bear got up to see what was going on at the boat in the area.
	And, okay, so it's not a big deal.
	It's not really that this is the last piece of ice in the world that the polar bear is on, which is what it implies.
	Exactly.
	Anyway.
	Um...
	So, when you look at all of the companies that, or organizations, and if you go back to peoplesclimate.org and hit the partners button.
	I think extortion racket.
	Extortion, that would be the word, yes.
	Extortion racket.
	If you look at the USA partners, and you can see just how deep this really goes.
	No, no, go back to peoplesclimate.org, and I'll get back.
	I just want you to look at all of, they say, all the partnering organizations that Okay, I'm looking at it.
	It's mind-boggling.
	And this is where all your money, this is where all the so-called, you know, the Koch brothers, this is what the Koch brothers are up against, I guess.
	Now, while you're looking at that, I'll tell you about it.
	I'm not finding it.
	Where's the link?
	You got peoplesclimate.org.
	Just do peoplesclimate.org slash partners slash.
	You'll find it that way.
	Okay, that'll make it easier.
	The navigation is a little fruity.
	While you're looking at that, I'll tell you a little bit about Abaz, or actually the front man of purpose, which is the commercial arm of this...
	Wow!
	I knew that was coming.
	You like all these corporations that are involved?
	Holy mackerel!
	This is the biggest list I've ever seen.
	Well, they must be going from place to place.
	You know, you're either with us or against us.
	It's exactly what it is.
	It's exactly what it is.
	So we have Rick and Patel...
	And this guy, Hymans, who really was a high-finance darling in the corporate world.
	In 2011, Jeremy Hymans received the Ford Foundation 75th Anniversary Visionaries Award.
	The World Economic Forum at Davo named him a young global leader, of course.
	The World E-Government Forum named Jeremy and Purpose co-founder David Madden among the top ten people who are changing the world of Internet and politics.
	You see, what happens is, and this goes back to the beginning of this program, you get these foundations, they go into...
	A major not-for-profit, typically a 501c4 nonprofit where you don't have to really explain anything or tell who your donors are or even really classify where you're sending your money to.
	And it funnels down into things like the net neutrality, but certainly with this climate change, And it spawns out into all these hundreds of organizations.
	We're all getting a million bucks at least.
	So, on the Rockefeller Foundation website, there's an article, How to Scale Up the Impact.
	So this is what these people do.
	Hyman, the co-founder of Purpose, is identified as panelist for Scaling Community Conservation Solutions at the World Wildlife Fund's annual Catherine Fuller Symposium.
	And then we look at this Purpose organization.
	Purpose is a for-profit B Corp.
	Quote, uses an innovative model to pool some of the world's leading experts and practitioners in order to fund, launch, and accelerate the growth of new social movement organizations.
	Then you have Purpose Action.
	That's the non-profit 501c4 advocacy agency, quote, focused on changing policy.
	So these people make a reasonable salary, $190,000 through the non-profit, but then they get hired to consult through the B Corp.
	And then they have the Purpose Campaign, which develops social and consumer movements.
	And this is how...
	These things work and how you can really trace a lot of this all the way back to big money, big corporate interest.
	And interestingly enough, one of these outfits, let me see which one it was.
	Is it Purpose?
	No, let me just see which one.
	Hold on.
	They're located in Zug.
	No, you're kidding.
	No, I'm not kidding.
	Jeez, that's like a giveaway.
	For anyone out there who's new to the show, Zug is a town in Switzerland where all these...
	It just is a town of douchebags, essentially.
	We have no donors from Zug.
	No, it's where all the oil corporations are.
	It's where Mark Rich lived and died.
	Right, Mark Rich's hometown.
	So he died.
	Along with this comes, releasing today, the movie Disruption.
	This is a very, very coordinated approach.
	And the movie Disruption, I'm looking at the poster right here, a movie to recruit for the People's Climate March on September 21st, presented by The New School and 350.org.
	Oh yeah, New School.
	We've discussed them before.
	They show up a lot.
	But listen, this movie is...
	Of course, a big premiere tonight in New York.
	A panel discussion will follow.
	Panelists include Rick Patel, John, we are stupid!
	We are stupid morons!
	We're driving old, beat-up, dusty cars!
	We could do this!
	We could do this, brother!
	We could have some sustainability, burn old people.
	We'd make about twice as much money, or ten times more, I'm sure.
	Ten times, easily.
	These people are rolling in dough.
	The film features Avaz's Patel, and Kia Chatterjee, and the 350.org board member Van Jones.
	This is very tricky.
	Van Jones is in this, up to his neck.
	In fact, on the...
	On the Climate Change March or whatever that website was, one of the slides that comes up is Van Jones.
	This guy's not a giveaway.
	But he is also, if you listen to Van Jones, he's always talking about social justice.
	He really blurs the lines between racism, social justice, polar bears for life, climate change, all of this stuff.
	All of that.
	Social justice is the leverage term that they're going to use all the time.
	And I think the clip you play at the beginning of the show shows you where this is headed, with the dingbat girl talking about people that are excluded.
	Whitey.
	Whitey.
	Whitey man.
	Whitey man!
	This is so well...
	First of all, there's so much money.
	There's hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of millions just in this march alone.
	And everybody is there.
	Look at these.
	We didn't even talk about that.
	But, I mean, what is Meatless Monday?
	MeatlessMonday.org.
	Let's just go take a look.
	MeatlessMonday.org.
	The Movement.
	The Global Movement.
	Bloggers on Board.
	Brand Partners.
	Let's see who's a brand partner of MeatlessMonday.org.
	Okay.
	Dole.
	Garden Inn.
	Morningstar.
	Ronzoni.
	Sweet Sunshine.
	This is a Beyond Meat.
	Birdseye.
	This is so big, people.
	This is a marketing opportunity for every big corporation.
	They just have to find a little, you know, you go basically, I'm sorry, fundamentally, you go up to, yeah, I'll buzz myself for that one.
	You go up to one of these big corporations and you say, hey, I got an idea.
	Let me talk to your marketing department.
	Yeah, we've started a non-profit called Meatless Monday, and we think you'd be a great partner for us, so we could really help people to understand that in the progressive stock, people who don't eat meat are really helping to save the earth, and you could benefit your brand image.
	One of the interesting things about that bit is that besides the fact that it does occur, Is the way that corporations are so easily leveraged when you use social media?
	as the fulcrum because they all know that social media is important none of them have a clue about it they talk to maybe a few agencies but they figure an old PR agency that's a problem that they have by the way the old PR agencies they have to start new PR agencies under their under their banners that look like they specialize in this sort of thing it's a con yeah The social media thing is the biggest con I've ever seen.
	How much money do you need?
	We're going to have a social media website and we're going to have a big presence on Twitter.
	By the way, you look at some of these social media experts and they're all over Twitter.
	Social media expert.
	You see it on Twitter all the time.
	I saw in some article a social media expert and consultant had her Facebook blocked This is a problem.
	I'm a social media expert.
	I need to be able to communicate with my clients.
	You look at these people on Twitter, social media expert, and they have like 2,500 followers.
	Or they have 800 followers.
	They can't even get 10,000 followers.
	But yes, they're somehow social media.
	If you're a social media expert, I want to look at your followers.
	1, 2, 3, 10 million, or you're full of crap.
	Another organization which we easily could have.
	We could have come up with this scam.
	Grayisgreen.org.
	Gray with an E or an A? A. Learn more.
	Grayisgreen is the leading environmental education advocacy and action organization for older adults.
	America's greenest generations are calling for cleaner, healthier living.
	Affiliations?
	Well, G. AARP, who of course pay them.
	Pan North America, Green Faith, Center for Humans and Nature.
	Calculate your household's carbon footprint and get tips on reducing carbon pollution.
	Calculate your household's carbon footprint.
	Yeah.
	Hey, The Poop Project.
	What is this?
	The Poop Project.
	I haven't seen it.
	The Poop Project?
	No, it's not.
	Thepoopproject.org.
	The Poop Project is a grassroots organization pushing for change from the bottom up.
	We create art, social media, and educational experiences that heal the cultural shame-keeping potty talk taboo.
	Our work promotes critical conversations about sustainable sanitation for the person, planet, and world community.
	The Poop Project is a fiscally sponsored...
	This is a parody.
	No.
	Onion.
	No.
	The Poop Project is a fiscally sponsored non-profit through Fractured Atlas.
	This is a real organization that is on the Climate March website, John.
	The Poop Project is dedicated to...
	Oh, I already read that part.
	Why talk about poop?
	For our bodies, rather than accepting a world that makes us feel guilt for doing something everybody does, we could be creating a world that is hospitable to the reality of having a body and all of its needs.
	Don't poop!
	The problem?
	We have become disconnected from our...
	The problem is we poop!
	Don't poop, ladies!
	Stop pooping!
	There's no reason to poop.
	If you leave it in there long enough, it'll finally digest itself.
	It's been a while, but finally I feel I can play this jingle again.
	Detective Dookie.
	Detective Dookie.
	Poop Police.
	SPU. Special Poopers Unit.
	This is real, people.
	This is real money that is going to this.
	Real money.
	Real money.
	This is like comedy.
	This list.
	Comedy.
	So I looked at one of the names on the list.
	The worldpopulationconnect.org.
	And it's a population connection.
	Everyone should look at this list and just start clicking away.
	Because there's...
	I don't know.
	What do you think?
	There's a...
	I was in organizations listed, and they're all going to be marching.
	I'm looking at populationconnect.org now.
	Yeah, and you look at the map, and they have a map of where people are growing too many people.
	Africa.
	Exactly, right where the Ebola is.
	It's zeroed in.
	Perfect.
	Too many people.
	Sorry.
	Greater, there's total fertility rate, and they have a map of the world, and you have less than two, which is like most of the world.
	Oh, look over to the right, John.
	They have a little banner there.
	World of 7 billion, a project of population education.
	And you click on that.
	World of 7 billion.
	This is, it's worldof7billion.org.
	Oh my goodness.
	These people want to kill Africans.
	Yeah, that's what I'm...
	We've been saying on this show.
	But I just found this.
	So you link out.
	I could do a whole show about it.
	I'm not saying the world of 7 billion.
	On the right hand side.
	Then you click on that and then you have to go to worldof7billion.org.
	And the world of 7 billion contest is a project of population education program provider of K-12 classroom resource.
	They're teaching children to kill other children.
	Hey, this is a contest.
	Should we take a look?
	An honorable mention on population education's World of Seven Billions student video.
	There's a student video we've got to get a hold of.
	I have it right here.
	Oh, play.
	Climate change and how to slow it.
	This is the first place winner.
	Might as well have a little listen.
	One minute, 15 seconds.
	Climate change, how to slow it down.
	First place climate change category, World of Seven Billions student video contest, May of 2014.
	Here we go.
	That's a cow farting.
	Green gas.
	No, that was you.
	No, no.
	I'm telling you, start this video, there's a cow farting, and the fart turns into a cloud.
	Of methane.
	Yes.
	I'll read what it says.
	I'm not kidding you.
	Here.
	Did you hear the cow farts?
	Listen.
	Yeah, let's start it again.
	Here we go.
	It farts, and the cloud says greenhouse gas, methane.
	Oh, let's get rid of cows.
	What's the next cloud?
	What happened?
	There's a Volkswagen Beetle, greenhouse gas, carbon dioxide, and there's brown smoke, black smoke coming out of the back of a red Beetle.
	And then there's a factory with a huge big black smokestack.
	And then the number of people in the world is rapidly increasing.
	Ominous music.
	We see buildings growing.
	So we need more food.
	Lots of cows.
	Lots of cows.
	More industry.
	Lots of smokestacks.
	More clouds.
	This means more greenhouse gases, which trap heat inside the atmosphere.
	We're seeing the thermometer rising.
	We're seeing sheets of ice breaking off.
	The sky is falling.
	New Orleans underwater.
	Extra, extra.
	Ten million dead already.
	We can prevent that.
	I'm reading this right off the screen.
	Drive less.
	Now the person is on a bike.
	Recycle.
	There's bins with plastic bins.
	And the factories are falling down.
	Choose renewable energy.
	And the windmills pop up instead of the factories.
	Plant a tree!
	And that's how it ends.
	Wow.
	Wow, wow, wow.
	Are you still there?
	I unfortunately have the thing playing on my machine now.
	Okay.
	All right.
	This is actually, this is all, there's no narrative.
	It's just a bunch of...
	I think I narrated it perfectly, thank you very much.
	Yeah, no, you wouldn't have been a good...
	Actually, you should have over-dubbed your narration.
	Well, we haven't.
	We can just...
	Someone can add that to the video.
	All music.
	Recycle.
	Do all these things.
	Plant a tree.
	That's the message.
	Screw it.
	And that was number one.
	This is all...
	I'm afraid to look at the rest.
	...sword of propaganda to keep everyone enslaved.
	Don't poop.
	Don't poop.
	Don't eat meat.
	Meatless Monday, don't eat meat.
	We haven't got enough meat to go around.
	We want to make sure only the rich people can eat the meat.
	Here's an idea.
	In their mansions.
	Here's an idea.
	John, look.
	Look.
	Look.
	I know we're lazy.
	I know we get nothing done.
	I know the only thing we really...
	You're not done on the show.
	No, yes.
	But in general, outside of the show, we're lazy.
	And it's not just lazy.
	We're trained to be lazy.
	Well, the problem is everything I do, everything I see, I always relate it to the show, and I'm looking for how can I use this in the show.
	I'm never thinking how can I make a billion dollars.
	Those days are over.
	I don't think about that.
	Well, When I look at this list, I believe it is possible for us to at least manage, which means we'll talk about it on the show.
	We can do it.
	We can have our meetings on the show.
	We do it anyway.
	And we'll get one or two people to run some outfit that we come up with.
	We'll come up with a name.
	We'll come up with a strategy.
	We can do that.
	It would actually be very easy.
	Right.
	From the looks of some of these incompetents.
	And then we'll have...
	These guys are rolling in dough and they're complete morons.
	And we can...
	I mean, they're really good at manipulating their dumb followers.
	What's Mimi doing?
	Right now, he's probably sleeping.
	I mean, how about Eric?
	Eric would be good for...
	Eric is busy.
	Who do we know that could just do this for us?
	We just tell them what to do.
	It's like, here's the name, go register, make it a non-profit.
	There's this young kid in England that I use for some web work once in a while.
	He's really talented.
	I don't know.
	We'll have to think about that.
	Identify.
	We should just put the word out.
	Let somebody self-identify.
	But I also want to make money off of this.
	Oh, yeah.
	Well, we give ourselves executors.
	And consultants.
	We're consultants.
	No, I think the other scam is better.
	You got the 501c4, and then you're making a very small amount of money there, like 100 grand.
	And then you have the other one, the B Corporation.
	I think that was genius.
	And then they hire you at a very high rate.
	So you're making 100 here and 500 at the other operation.
	Yes.
	And now you're talking.
	And then you have two or three of those Bs.
	These guys, this is an intertangled web.
	We've done this before.
	We look at these different companies, these different organizations, nonprofits, NGOs.
	We look at these different NGOs and you see the same names cropping up all over the place and they're all paying each other money that they scam from these big companies that are glad to give it to them because the big companies don't know social.
	And I can pitch Whole Foods and all that.
	I can go along on some pitches.
	I don't mind doing that if it's in Austin.
	It's easy.
	And we can go to Formula One and guilt them.
	We can guilt the Formula One people into paying some money.
	Yeah, you guilt them.
	How about race?
	How about...
	Listen, I have one.
	Racing for the green.
	Racing for the green.
	So I go to this Dakota, which is Circuit of the Americas, which is our circuit in Austin, and I guilt them all.
	So we have the Formula One, we have MotoGP, and I guilt them into, yes, you're spewing all of this high, flammable, complete carbon dioxide poison into the Austin air, but And we'll have a gala.
	Gala.
	We'll have a gala before the races.
	Sponsored by, yeah.
	Racing for the green.
	And we'll plant some trees from that money.
	Okay, that sounds like a good idea.
	And I think you can have a couple of gimmicks if you bring that up.
	How about this for the gimmick for Racing for the Green?
	And you can push this across all the racing circuits, including NASCAR and the rest of them.
	Do you like this name, Racing for the Green?
	I like Racing for the Green.
	But the kicker is the checkered flag at the end is now green and white.
	Yes, yes.
	Not black and white.
	Oh, yes.
	Because black indicates carbon.
	It's the color of carpet.
	No good.
	No good.
	It's horrible.
	And hold on one second.
	Five, four, three, two, one.
	And bingo, boom, shakalaka.
	Racingforthegreen.org is now ours.
	Good move.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	We can work with that.
	Okay.
	In the meantime, we pay the rent in different ways.
	This is not a bonanza for us just yet, John.
	I'm going to show my support by donating to No Agenda.
	Imagine all the people who could do that.
	Oh, yeah, that'd be fab.
	We do have a few people to thank, and probably none of them want us to turn to the dark side.
	But it's so easy to do it.
	You can see how we could do it if we wanted to.
	And let me just say this.
	It's plan B. Well, not only plan B, but in fact we could do both.
	I like it.
	I like it.
	We could do the dark side, because the audience for our show is just a limited number of intelligent people.
	And they would be interested in the inside of the...
	It would make them even better.
	It would be so meta, because we would actually talk about what we're doing on the show, and it would still work.
	Meta.
	No one will call us out because all these other people know that they're full of crap.
	I'm not going to call those guys out.
	I don't want anyone looking at my operation.
	Bill, you just be drawing attention to them.
	That's all they're looking for.
	Uh-huh.
	They just want attention.
	Don't look at that.
	Don't look over there, please.
	Audrey Symes in Richmond Heights, Missouri.
	$123.45.
	Part of the never-ending...
	This may be a string.
	We've got like three shows in a row.
	One, two, three, four, five.
	Nice.
	ITM, Bebop, and Rocksteady, first off, I want to thank you for your courage in creating such an amazing show.
	You're so much more than the best podcast in the universe.
	We're beyond the best podcast.
	And he would like to award his donation to Paige Walden.
	Okay.
	And ask for a birthday shout out for my good friend who just turned.
	Just turned.
	Well, Audrey.
	No, it's Audrey.
	It's not a him and a her.
	It's two women.
	Audrey and Paige.
	Oh, nice.
	Hello, girls.
	Anonymous in Denver.
	1, 2, 3, 4, 5.
	I have a green NGO. There you go.
	That would actually, yeah.
	So what do you do with your spare time?
	Save the earth.
	I save the earth?
	What do you do, bitch?
	I save the earth.
	Uh-huh.
	Russ in Wildwood, Missouri.
	1, 2, 3, 4, 5.
	Daniel McDonald in Halifax, Canada.
	$100.
	Now exactly why is this in green?
	I don't know.
	Somehow PayPal screwed up or something happened and this was for Thursday's show and it didn't show up on the spreadsheet.
	Was this the Kale book guy?
	Yes.
	Ah, right.
	Yes.
	And this is Daniel McDonald.
	He was very concerned that his donation, he saw it removed from his PayPal, but did not hear us talk about it.
	This happens.
	He says, hello, broadcast professionals.
	While I don't have the financial skills of No Agenda Grand Dukes, Knights, and Producers, I've created accepted artwork for shows 380, 457, 458, and 646, the Selfie Awards.
	Yes, this is true.
	I also created the first draft of the John C. Devorak Kale book.
	Please accept my financial contribution to the show.
	No jingles, please.
	Just keep no agenda running.
	Thank you, Daniel McDonald in Scandinavia.
	And we thank you, and we're glad we worked that out.
	Thank you, Daniel.
	From Halifax.
	Robert Doland in Shelby Township, Michigan, 8888.
	Oh, we haven't had that one in a while, but always love...
	And to celebrate our anniversary with the $77.77 donation, we have two people.
	Scott Waldherr in Rhinelander, Wisconsin, which I assume is a German town, and Sir Rich Leiter in Lincoln, Nebraska.
	Yeah, Rich, who is the law professor.
	And he wants some karma for his daughter, Becky.
	He will put that at the end of the list.
	Absolutely.
	What's Becky up to, anyway?
	She's starting...
	Oh, she's starting labor with her second grand human.
	Oh, my goodness.
	Grand human?
	Yeah.
	Oh, his grand human resource.
	Yeah, his grand human.
	Right, got it.
	And...
	Yeah.
	Pizza, by the way.
	Yeah, pizza.
	Ashley Burton, 7373.
	Yeah, she just gave that.
	Sir Andrew Lemesini.
	Lemesini.
	Lemesini, which I always pronounce Lemesini.
	Barron, actually, in Colorado Springs, Colorado, 6345.
	He's still napping for humanity.
	Oh, well, let's see.
	The only one left.
	For humanity.
	Kara Rogers, 6453 in Frisco, Texas.
	Uh...
	Kwong Liu in Santa Ana, California, 60.
	Joshua Borklund in Casper, Wyoming, double nickels on the dime, the one and only.
	It's Bjorklund.
	I said Bjorklund.
	Cyrus Christian, Lake Forest, California, 5150.
	He went from boner to donor.
	Please deduce me.
	Shout out to D.H. Hammer and Pocahontas while Sam is still a boner.
	All right.
	It's all code.
	Very good.
	That's definitely code.
	Not a word of that was understandable.
	But people listen to this show a lot.
	From the Racing for Green Coalition.
	Sir Craig Kuttner in Norwalk, Connecticut, 5069.
	And Sir Kevin Payne in Richmond, Virginia, 5069.
	And finally, these are all $50 donors.
	We'll get to the end pretty quickly today.
	Tamara Hill in Mansfield, Ohio.
	Sir Nick Wallace in Nashville, Tennessee.
	Eric Veit in Dublin, California.
	Jen Bissell in...
	Bandon, Oregon.
	Bandon, Oregon?
	Is that right?
	Gives them money for the dance party, I think.
	Keith Brown in Largo Vista, Texas.
	David McLean, Cuba, Missouri.
	Dennis Denise in Piscataway, New Jersey.
	Piscataway.
	Piscataway.
	Martin Van Gerlen in Benin and Lewin.
	You know, he sends in this donation just to hear you mess it up.
	It's Martijn van Galenlast.
	Yeah, Martijn.
	Van Galenlast.
	Galenlast.
	Van Galenlast.
	Galen.
	Galen.
	Benedeleeuwen.
	Yeah.
	John McGinnis in Dingley Village, Victoria, Australia, right next to John McGinnis in Ridgewood, East Victoria.
	Interesting.
	He's got two accounts with different names or different towns.
	Mark Raley in Germantown, Maryland.
	Philip Misson, Sir Philip Misson to you in Welshpool, UK. Eric Mon, Eric Mon.
	Are you on the Comcast or are you on the SonicNet today?
	I'm on Sonic.
	Am I breaking up?
	Well, it's been doing it every couple of minutes.
	It's not really breaking, but it gets stuck.
	Well, that's interesting.
	I could change the setting and make a difference.
	Yeah, why don't you change the setting?
	Well, let me finish these names off.
	There's only two.
	Okay.
	No, there's only one.
	I just did David Trotsky in Romeoville, Illinois.
	And finally, Benjamin Smith over here in Oakland.
	$50.
	And that concludes our donation list.
	We'd go to Dvorak.com.
	We should talk a little bit about why people should help us after I change the setting.
	Yeah, you change the setting and I will do the thing here.
	And give everybody the karma that they need.
	There's no real conflict!
	You've got karma.
	Are you back?
	No, I've got to change the setting.
	Oh, I thought that was usually that it happens in one second.
	Well, I'll do the birthdays.
	I'm going to have a reboot of my router.
	I'm going to be gone for 15 seconds.
	Okay, you do that and I will do the birthdays.
	I have to mention a little note here for Sir Keith Chamberlain, who will be 73 on the 24th.
	That's coming up this week.
	I don't think I've ever seen a stranger time in my life.
	Keep up the good work.
	I've enjoyed your most recent work.
	As I've said before, I enjoy it.
	And when you show Obama as the fool that he is.
	Very nice, Sir Keith.
	And let's have the other birthdays while we're out.
	So as I said, Sir Keith Chamberlain will be 73 on the 24th.
	Roslyn Furness turns 41 today.
	And Audrey Symes says happy birthday to Paige Walden.
	Happy birthday from all your friends here at the best podcast in the universe!
	It's your birthday, yeah!
	Are you back?
	I'm not...
	They changed it.
	Who changed what?
	Oh, Sonic.net.
	They had this system you could punch in on the phone and it would change your upload-download thing.
	And they changed it.
	I don't know what happened.
	But did you get to talk to other singles in your area?
	No.
	Never mind.
	You just want to leave it for what it is then?
	Yeah, I think so.
	Okay.
	Good.
	I could switch to the Comcast connection.
	Let me take a look at what the speed is.
	I always like it when you do that.
	It's not the speed.
	It's the peering.
	It's some other bull crap.
	Who knows what it is?
	It's not really bad.
	It's just minor annoyance.
	It's not horrible.
	Well, let me take a look at what it says here.
	Okay, I can change it.
	Let me do the change and we can change back because it changes.
	This particular change is very, very...
	Very quick.
	Quick.
	You do that and I will play a jingle.
	I apparently can't do this either.
	You can't do that either, John.
	We are here, hashtag America, near our hashtag target.
	Soon.
	Just leave it for what it is.
	It's fine.
	We need to talk about the caliphate, everybody.
	Well, before we do that, a couple of things I want to get out of the way.
	First of all, we had a discussion at dinner last night that now I realize that I was right all along.
	Play the Oktoberfest clip.
	This was before dinner.
	Well, finally, it's called Oktoberfest, but it's actually already begun.
	Germany's world-famous celebration of beer is underway.
	The mayor of Munich tapping the first barrel on Saturday, the first of Manny.
	Last year, more than 6 million visitors down to 6.7 million liter-sized tankards of the amber fluid.
	That's more to put it into context for you than two full Olympic-sized swimming pools of beer.
	So we're driving through San Francisco in the 1993 dusty Lexus.
	Off-white is the color these days.
	If it was washed, it's white.
	And we see some babes in lederhosen.
	Lots of babes.
	And I'm going, seek Heil out the window.
	Yeah, like a fool.
	Yeah.
	I think they're Austrian.
	What makes you say that?
	They're Austrian.
	They were probably Americans dressed up like these bar girls, whatever they're called.
	Well, they didn't understand my dialect.
	Your dialect.
	Anyway, go on.
	And you say, it's for Oktoberfest.
	I say, but it's September.
	Yeah, and I said, well, it's Oktoberfest in San Francisco.
	But you made a big argument about it's not October, so how could it be October?
	Yeah, it makes no sense.
	Apparently, yesterday, driving around, it was indeed officially Oktoberfest, or the beginning of it.
	This is very American and stupid.
	But this report was from Germany.
	Hmm.
	If you go back, if you actually listen to it...
	Ah, I didn't realize it was...
	Yeah, you're right.
	Well, how can that be?
	Well, now you were asking me last night, and I was just telling you the facts, and...
	Well, have we done the work?
	Have we...
	Octoberfest Wikipedia.
	Let me just see if there's an official start to this thing.
	This is bullcrap.
	16 day...
	Ah!
	Ah!
	Oktoberfest is the world's largest fun fair.
	Held annually in Munich, Bavaria, Germany.
	There's a 16-day festival running from late September to the first weekend in October.
	Well, there you go.
	What do I know?
	It should be Socktoberfest is what they should call it, but okay.
	Septober.
	Caliphate!
	We will follow them to the gates of hell.
	I got a lot of fun stuff to listen to.
	I've got some clips.
	Did you see Kerry?
	Yeah, of course.
	Okay.
	We're talking about Kerry at the Security Council being the president?
	It was funny.
	At first I thought, is it just a camera angle and the president of the Security Council is off to the left?
	No, it said president, one sign, and then right next to the United States, yeah!
	Yeah!
	Yeah, he always wanted to be president.
	I have a little clip here of him exuding his authority as president.
	I got it.
	I don't know if you go first.
	You go first.
	Let me play my.
	I have a couple of clips.
	First of all, just let's play this clip so we get a feeling for what this meeting was like, which was the Security Council guy number one clip.
	People of Iraq have made their right choice in their stance against ISIL, and this council should strengthen our support for their fight.
	sad music We believe that the voices heard today will bear fruit in the form of a robust international commitment to assist Iraq.
	Last but not least, we fully support SRST Mladenov and all the staff of UNAMI for their dedication to fulfill their mission.
	Thank you.
	Just to remind people that they really go out of their way to find people that are bilingual.
	To help everyone understand them when they try to speak English.
	Yeah.
	So this was the tone.
	Most of these guys, you couldn't understand a word they said.
	And so the guy from Bahrain comes up.
	He's actually a foreign minister that they invited a bunch of these guys.
	Big fat guy.
	And he's yakking away about...
	And this whole thing is so boring, I think Carrie fell asleep because...
	Did you see Power behind him, Susan Power?
	Yeah, she's shaking her head on her Blackberry.
	With her leather jacket.
	This is the guy, this is Bahrain guy, goes on and on about stuff.
	He suggests nothing.
	He just lathers on.
	Carrie, who apparently fell asleep, the guy ends and Carrie's caught off guard and he has to say something.
	So he's like, stall my guy, what should I say?
	And he just makes up some bullcrap.
	There are terrorist groups no less criminal than Daesh operating across the Middle East, from Egypt to Libya to Lebanon, Syria to Yemen to the Gulf.
	State-sponsored terrorist organizations such as Hezbollah and other proxies continue to terrorize and kill innocent people all over the region.
	It is therefore necessary to adopt a holistic approach, as many of us here have said and have heard my colleagues say, a holistic approach that identifies, confronts, and eventually defeats terrorists in an effective manner.
	Thank you very much.
	And thank you for the important list of commitments that Bahrain is prepared to make, and we all look forward to taking part in that conference.
	It's going to be a very, very important part of success.
	Hey, how are you guys doing with stoning homos?
	I now give the floor to His Excellency Dr.
	Khalid bin Mohammed Al-Atiyah, the Minister of Foreign Affairs of Qatar, and I do so.
	I thank you also for the early and defined commitments that Qatar has made already to this effort.
	Yeah, that was funny.
	This whole thing is...
	So the way it works, and this is Carrie starting off with kind of the roll call.
	These are all the people who were invited to participate in our Coalition of the Willing.
	And the Netherlands, who were very upset about not being in the...
	You'll recall I mentioned the Dutch...
	What?!
	We've got to be a part of this!
	What are you talking about?
	This is crazy!
	We have a military-industrial complex.
	We make stuff.
	We make meals.
	We've got to be a part of this.
	Our industry needs to be a part of this bonanza.
	So here's Kerry.
	He started kicking off the session.
	Talking about everybody, and this Rule 37 that he gets to, because he's the President, gets to talk about Rule 37.
	Given the press of business for everybody in this chamber, is a statement in and of itself about the importance of the matter that is under discussion.
	So, we're deeply grateful.
	Not just on behalf of our invitation, but to all the countries that have understood the responsibility and the seriousness of this moment, and we express our great gratitude to everyone.
	In accordance with Rule 37 of the Council's Provisional Rules of Procedure, I invite the representatives of Albania, Bahrain, Belgium, Canada, Denmark, Egypt, Finland, Germany, Georgia, Iraq, the Islamic Republic of Iran,
	Italy, Japan, Lebanon, the Netherlands, Norway, Oman, Poland, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Spain, Turkey, and the United Arab Emirates to participate in this meeting.
	It is so decided.
	It is so decided!
	He loves doing that.
	Let me wave my magic wand!
	It is so decided!
	I, John F. Carey, have said it is so decided.
	As predicted, you heard the name in there.
	We knew that this was going to happen.
	Iran is going to be a player in this.
	This will be very interesting to watch.
	It must be comprehensive.
	And include close collaboration across multiple lines of effort.
	It's about taking out an entire network, decimating and discrediting a militant...
	This is different than what the President said.
	The President says degrading and destroying.
	He says decimating and...
	Hold on a second.
	Discrediting.
	Well, decimating, of course, means only taking out 10%.
	Only 10%, yeah.
	Decimating and discrediting.
	Decimating and discrediting.
	That's different.
	I'll say!
	We're only going to chop you down by 10%.
	Well, decimating and degradation could be the same.
	10% degradation in sound quality.
	That could be 10%, but that's just a glitch.
	Decimating and discrediting.
	You've got no credits here, ISIS. You have no credits with me.
	You have no credits here.
	Decimating and discrediting.
	A militant cult.
	Masquerading as a religious movement.
	The fact is, there is a role for nearly every country in the world to play.
	Including Iran.
	Hey!
	Uh-huh, you said it.
	Okay.
	Now, of course, this is going on...
	You know, we've got Iran instead of Iran.
	He's not a player.
	He's a douche.
	He's just doing what he's told to do.
	But, oh, stop, John.
	We have to be very worried.
	Oh, well, let's get the governor of New York in here!
	The governor of New York says he is stepping up security measures in mass transit sites in New York City and its suburbs.
	Andrew Cuomo said he's doing so because of the potential for increased threats from turmoil overseas.
	As a precaution, they're stepping forward.
	Look, they're very concerned.
	A lot of terrorism experts say they have not seen this kind of chatter since pre-9-11.
	The governor says even though there are no current credible threats, that the city should be on high alert.
	No credible threats, but all the chatter.
	It's the highest amount of chatter.
	Chatter, chatter, chatter, chatter, chatter.
	Bullshit!
	But okay, fine.
	Finally, we have an answer.
	If you need to know something about the media, where do you turn, John?
	If I need to know something, I turn to Wikipedia.
	If you need answers about the media, let's just say for a moment you are an intellectual.
	You watch Rachel Maddow.
	If you were a lesbian, you'd marry her.
	Oh yeah, for sure.
	What program...
	Audio would tell you about the media and help you understand the media.
	Media matters.
	How about on the media?
	I mean on the media, that's what I meant.
	From NPR, that's right.
	It runs on Sunday.
	I listen to it when I'm driving up to do the Twitch show.
	And here is the question that is answered.
	Why?
	Is it ISIS? Is it ISIL? Is it IS? Why does the media say ISIS? And why does the administration say ISIL? This is a question that we've been asking ourselves.
	On the media, answers this question.
	Uh-huh.
	90% of Americans believe that ISIS, or ISIL, or Islamic State, poses a threat to the US. This is great news.
	According to a recent CNN poll.
	Hey, Mark, let that be the first question.
	Okay.
	Mark Lynch is Director of the Institute for Middle East Studies at George Washington University.
	So Mark, what should we be calling this entity?
	Well, I think you should be calling it ISIS, because I think that that actually better captures what the group understands about itself.
	The administration has chosen to use the phrase ISIL, Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant, which I think they see as a way of translating Asham, which is what the S stands for in ISIS. But that doesn't resonate with how anybody in the region understands it or how the group understands itself.
	I actually think that the terminology is very problematic because ultimately there is a battle to define what this group is, and that's a big part of the politics of trying to confront it.
	There you go.
	Shut up.
	It doesn't tell me anything.
	No, it tells you that the people running the media, which this group clearly does, this George Washington universe, it's all spies, it's all CIA crap, they're telling the media what to use.
	I think it's...
	Oh, you think this is part...
	Wait.
	You think this might be part of the never-ending struggle between agencies...
	Possibly.
	...and Obama and the CIA? Possibly.
	And so they decided to put a line in the sand.
	Possibly.
	Yeah, it's possible.
	Possibly.
	It is...
	It's marked...
	We noticed it, and every time I'm watching anything or even getting clips, it just stands out like a sore thumb.
	I think any media organization should be ashamed of themselves if they are not using the term the President of the United States and the administration uses.
	You are fundamentally not talking about the same thing, and that makes no sense.
	So now the media is showing we're above the President.
	We know what to do.
	We're right.
	We know what to call it.
	We know what to call it.
	Now, let's just talk for a quick moment about this coalition of the willing and what is really taking place here.
	As you may have heard, the following report.
	Earlier, France carried out its first airstrike inside Iraq, attacking IS forces in the northeast of the country.
	Hugh Schofield reports from Paris.
	So France has joined the United States in carrying the fight against Islamic State.
	The French military released these pictures after two Rafale fighters operating at the French base in Abu Dhabi hit and destroyed what was described as an IS logistics base near Mosul.
	President Hollande said it was just a beginning.
	More strikes against targets in Iraq will follow in the coming days.
	Do you know what this is?
	This is a sales pitch.
	They've been trying to sell this Raphael jet, which is made by Dassault.
	Huge, huge corporation.
	Dassault.
	Dassault.
	Made entirely in France.
	They've been trying to sell this to Arab countries for 20, 10 years at least.
	And then they show this cool video on the top.
	This is promotional video.
	This would be why we had the clip, I think we played it, with Hollande in Baghdad out of the blue.
	Yes, and this is also making up for selling the ships to Russia.
	Right.
	I think they're selling the ships to Russia.
	They get a pass on that.
	I don't think they're making up for anything.
	I think you nailed it just...
	Plain and simple.
	We have to show these planes.
	One of the problems that a lot of these countries that make these jets, I mean, Sweden makes fighter jets too, is that they go around and say, well, we haven't seen your jets in action.
	This American over here, in fact, they're bombing somebody right now, and they're making movies of it.
	Yeah.
	And so the French just said, okay, well we have to get in on this.
	And so they sent Olan to visit Baghdad, the new guy.
	So we'll take out some of these guys for you, but we had to film it.
	So we'll have a jet behind this jet, and it'll be shooting it.
	This was stock.
	This is stock footage.
	They already had this.
	This is cool flying information.
	I would shoot fresh footage if it was me.
	What does it cost?
	You have a trailer, you know, a trailing jet and it's shooting the whole thing.
	It'd be beautiful.
	There's a barrel roll.
	I mean, look at that thing go.
	It's beautiful.
	That's a very nice looking jet.
	Yeah, it is.
	So there's a new video out from the makers of the previous beheadings.
	And they're very fun to see this.
	The new video is not a beheading.
	We'll get to it in a moment.
	But the blueprint for the previous beheading videos appears to be either directly lifted from or created by a Turkish film director.
	And everyone needs to go to the following URL. Wow.
	Are you okay?
	I need to get some oil.
	WD-40.
	This is a very short clip.
	Give me the website.
	itm.im slash director.
	And this video, you'll see it at about 33 seconds in U. And this is a trailer.
	For a Turkish drama TV series.
	And at 33 seconds in, of course, could it be any better than that, you will see...
	Check it out.
	First, you see the guy hammering in.
	Now watch, it's just a couple frames.
	Here it comes.
	Five, four, three, two, one.
	And the door opens, and you're going to see some sand bunnies.
	And boom, there it is!
	Freeze frame it right there.
	A guy in an orange jumpsuit on his knees.
	A terrorist.
	Holy crap.
	Who found this?
	It's going around.
	It's going around.
	There it is.
	Pen knife in the left hand.
	The balaclava.
	The hole is exactly the same.
	Yes.
	Huh.
	Uh-huh.
	Yeah, that was the same reaction I had.
	That's unbelievable.
	Yeah, there's a guy, the same thing.
	Of course, he's not miked.
	How awesome is this?
	Yeah.
	They're on green screen.
	They're not done.
	No, no.
	You can tell.
	It's the same set, same actors.
	Well, it's a different set.
	I mean, it's a different green screen.
	Different background.
	Yeah, different background.
	Everything else is the same.
	So, this is something that...
	This guy even looks like the same guy.
	I'm telling you.
	It's the same outfit.
	It's the same costumes.
	I know.
	It's mind-boggling.
	I know.
	I know.
	Of course, we know that 94% of the American public has heard of the video, has not actually seen the video, but they believe it.
	There's another interesting aspect to this, which is the guy who's the so-called Jihad Johnny, or whatever his name is, You know, we never actually see him say anything.
	No, you just hear him, but he could be doing nothing because he's got his face covered up.
	So they could put that in post.
	Yeah.
	What message do you think we need for this guy, Bill?
	Well, we need a guy with a British accent, and we're going to have the script kiddies.
	They'll go write something up for us.
	I have an idea.
	Let's sweeten that video.
	Yeah.
	I just can't get enough of that sound effect.
	Anyway.
	So there's a new video out.
	Whoever found that deserves kudos.
	This is the YouTubes.
	A new video comes out.
	I'm looking for the new video because I want to see the new video.
	I need to know what's going on with the video.
	I bump up against a video from those heroes.
	The most watched podcast.
	The best video podcast in the world.
	In the whole universe.
	TYT. The Young Turks.
	Oh yeah, those guys.
	This is Chunk's outfit.
	Not Chunk who's talking.
	And so I'll just let it play.
	Maybe they got the video.
	And here's what they say.
	ISIS has released yet another hostage video, in this case with the British journalist John Cantley.
	For once, he is not being held, you know, on his knees with weapons to his head.
	He's behind a desk.
	We're not going to be showing you the video, but we do have a few quotations from it because we want you to understand the context and what differentiates this video.
	Now why are you not going to show me the video, TYT? Why can't you show me the video?
	Is it secret?
	Is it so horrible?
	Is it too long?
	No.
	It's three minutes long.
	And I'm going to play the audio for you because it is important what is being said here.
	I love this guy's name.
	Cantly.
	The way I saw it, before I heard anyone pronounce it, I was laughing.
	I said the guy's name is John Cantly.
	Are you kidding me?
	This is a great name.
	Cantly.
	And he is now in a hangar, darkened hangar, and he is reading his script.
	And I find it important for us all to listen because this is a teaser.
	This is not anything other than a teaser for a new television show.
	That's what this is, and I'd like us to listen to this together.
	Hello, my name is John Cantley.
	I'm a British journalist who used to work for some of the bigger newspapers and magazines in the UK, including The Sunday Times, The Sun, and The Sunday Telegraph.
	I found this interesting by itself, that a journalist needs to, I don't know, I guess he didn't write it, but this is pretty much straight off the Wikipedia page.
	And in 2012, he was kidnapped along with our other friend, the original guy, Foley.
	So why Foley's head got cut off and this guy's alive is a mystery, other than I'm thinking they're all alive and they're all having a good laugh about this.
	And oh yes, I'm an incredibly important photojournalist.
	And they were making a movie together, I might add.
	Foley and this guy were making a movie about his spectacular escape from the first time he was abducted.
	So they have movie-making skills, just pointing that out.
	In November 2012, I came to Syria, where I was subsequently captured by the Islamic State.
	Now, nearly two years later, many things have changed, including the expansion of the Islamic State to include large areas of eastern Syria and western Iraq, a landmass bigger than Britain and many other nations.
	Why this language?
	And many other nations.
	What is the point of that?
	I have no idea.
	I don't either.
	I'd like to point out again, the microphone is neatly dressed underneath his shirt.
	So they took some time to...
	He's wearing orange.
	He's wearing orange, yes.
	Now, I know what you're thinking.
	You're thinking, he's only doing this because he's a prisoner.
	He's got a gun at his head, and he's being forced to do this.
	Right?
	Right.
	No, I don't see a gun.
	Well, it's true.
	I am a prisoner.
	That I cannot deny.
	But seeing as I've been abandoned by my government and my fate now lies in the hands of the Islamic State, I have nothing to lose.
	Maybe I will live and maybe I will die.
	But I want to take this opportunity to convey some facts that you can verify.
	Facts that, if you contemplate, might help preserving lives.
	Over the next few programs, I'm going to show you the truth as the Western...
	Did you hear that?
	Yeah.
	Over the next few programs?
	Right.
	No one has mentioned this, that this is a series.
	I didn't know it until you played this clip.
	...tries to drag the public back to the abyss of another war with the Islamic State.
	After two disastrous and hugely unpopular wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, why is it that our governments appear so keen to get involved in yet another unwinnable conflict?
	I'm going to show you the truth behind these systems and motivation of the Islamic State.
	Is this an Alex Jones production or something?
	Are you going to be selling seeds?
	Keep playing.
	And how the Western media, the very organization I used to work for, can twist and manipulate that truth.
	Interesting how he calls the Western media the very organization he used to work for, as if it's one organization.
	Just pointing that out.
	Yeah, that's a good catch.
	For the public back home, there are two sides to every story.
	Think you're getting the whole picture?
	No.
	And I'll show you the truth behind what happened when many European citizens were imprisoned and later released by the Islamic State and how the British and American governments thought they could do it differently to every other European country.
	They negotiated with the Islamic State and got their people home while the British and Americans were left behind.
	It's very alarming to see where this is all headed, and it looks like history repeating itself yet again.
	There is time to change this seemingly inevitable sequence of events, but only if you, the public, act now.
	Join me for the next few programs and I think you may be surprised at what you learn.
	And that's it.
	Join me right after the break.
	You need some dramatic music behind this.
	This production is cheap.
	Yeah, it's poorly done.
	But it sounds like they're doing a series, a whole, you know, this is a pilot.
	That's what it sounds like to me.
	No one has mentioned this.
	They wouldn't play the damn clip on the Chunk Show.
	The Young Turks.
	We can't play this clip.
	Because there's actually important information.
	Important information has come to light.
	We can't give you that kind of information.
	This is no good.
	No.
	I'm sorry.
	I wasn't fast enough with it.
	I noticed.
	It's not easy when I'm on the road.
	Yeah.
	But I'll play it anyway, just to make you feel better.
	I've got information, man!
	New shit has come to light!
	So how do we respond to that in the United States, to this chilling new video?
	And be aware, you will hear the chilling video.
	The haunting words.
	Really, it's just a poorly written script to promo their series.
	But no one said, he's going to be killed.
	Oh, they're going to kill me.
	No.
	He said, there's actually a way we could turn all this back, and I'm going to show you how...
	Yeah, he's going to be the narrator for some propaganda stuff.
	It's going to be great.
	Do you think it's perhaps that in this video he's saying that the media is full of crap, that they're not playing it for us?
	Is that perhaps the reason?
	I think that message is in there, too.
	Yeah, he's got a lot...
	Well, he said...
	When he blasted the BBC or wherever it was that he generalized about, he kind of hinted that everyone's...
	Well, of course, we've known that.
	Most of our producers know that, but the public at large, no, they won't pay any attention to any of this.
	So what did we do?
	What we just did...
	Playing that clip.
	As a public service.
	No, no one's done.
	Even the Young Turks, the best podcast on video.
	And the Young Turks, and the great thing about it is that it didn't, especially the Young Turks, they would have gotten about five or ten minutes of material out of it.
	Like we're doing.
	Yeah, like we're doing.
	We can get five, ten minutes out of content here.
	This is pure, this is gold.
	How did you miss this?
	This is gold.
	You're leaving your profits on the floor.
	Because the guy from the Young Turks didn't watch the video either.
	He just, just some producer said, look, we've got to fit this into an eight-minute segment.
	We've got a little bit of conversation.
	I don't want to go over to the C-block like you guys did last time.
	You know, that operation is run just like a TV show.
	Yeah.
	It is a TV show.
	No, but yeah, well, in some ways we're a radio show, but we don't have these kinds of false limitations.
	No.
	Oh, you've got to wrap it.
	We've only got a minute left.
	If you've got a minute left, can you summarize?
	Oh, you've only got 30 seconds.
	Give me a break.
	We're in the 21st century.
	How do you only have 30 seconds?
	That's all I never needed.
	Yeah, you have 30 seconds because you've got to get to this clip.
	You might as well play OxyClean.
	Oh.
	Oh, God.
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	Why does it have to be an Australian guy yelling at us?
	Sounds more official.
	There's an Australian guy yelling at us.
	I think we respond well to that.
	Apparently.
	I do.
	This particular guy, who I've never seen before, you know, they've gone through different OxyClean guys, and they all die or something.
	I don't know what happens.
	Yeah, they do die, don't they?
	This is not a good gig.
	Turn that one down, agent.
	It's all the screaming.
	So whatever the case, this guy put...
	There's this weird, creepy smile on his face throughout the commercial.
	I would recommend people to watch this commercial.
	Watch his smile.
	It's an inappropriate smile kind of thing, you know, right?
	Anyway, yeah.
	So you got 30 seconds so we can get to this guy.
	So instead of doing that guy, I have another guy.
	A couple of clips here from a very interesting take on what we should be doing to change not just our attitudes, not just our policy, but our actual constitution to combat this threat from the sand.
	And here is Alan Dershowitz.
	Famous, famous lawyer who has written a book, Tunnels of Terror.
	Tunnels of Terror.
	No, you're not doing that right.
	Hold on.
	Yeah.
	Tunnels of Terror.
	Give me some echo.
	Yeah, hold on.
	Try it again.
	Tunnels of Terror! Tunnels of Terror!
	Tunnels of Terror!
	I don't like the whispering angle.
	I like that.
	I like that.
	It's kind of like, you could be caller number 100!
	Caller number 100!
	If you dial now!
	Here's Alan Dershowitz telling us that a lawyer, an officer of the court...
	That in order to combat ISIS, we have to change the Constitution.
	Let's talk about this, sir, the key question that America has been debating for 13 years now, which is safety.
	What have we been debating for 13 years?
	13 years?
	What have we been debating for 13 years?
	I don't know.
	We've been debating whether she should have a job.
	Let's talk about this sort of key question that America has been debating for 13 years now, which is safety at what cost?
	I mean, address that.
	Is there ever a clear line to be drawn between keeping the majority of people safe and individual privacy rights?
	The reason our constitution has survived longer than any constitution is it's adaptable.
	And it has to adapt to the new threats of terrorism.
	We have to make some changes.
	We can't be operating as if we're still in the 18th or 19th century.
	And so I don't think we have to compromise our rights.
	I think we have to adapt them to the new realities.
	We may have to keep people confined in detention.
	Even though we can't give them all the full due process rights, if they're bragging that they're going to go back and commit acts of terrorism, we may have to control passports a little bit more than we have in the past if people are going to go train to come back to the United States to blow up Times Square.
	Has Times Square been blowing up?
	It's just rubble.
	What major terrorism acts have we witnessed since the 9-11 incident?
	This is the only one you can really refer to.
	But he is talking about changing the Constitution so you have no due process if you brag about coming back.
	This is another attack of freedom of speech.
	Do you think?
	Big time.
	Now he's going to...
	You're like those idiots.
	Remember these guys?
	This was years ago.
	Those boneheads that were in Milwaukee or something and they're just a bunch of dumb...
	Oh, about blowing up the bridge?
	They're going to blow something up and then they were all going to meet in Florida.
	They didn't even have a gun.
	They couldn't get anything together.
	And then they arrested him, and then they couldn't prove anything against him because they were just idiots.
	You know what?
	The country's just a population.
	We got 300 million people plus.
	There's a bunch of dummies in this country, and they will say stupid stuff.
	And they will get voted off the island.
	Now, let's listen to Dershowitz, who is going to compare ISIS, ISIL, ISIL, to Hamas.
	Hamas.
	And the famous Hamas strategy.
	Do you know what that strategy is?
	To feed the poor and bomb the rich.
	You know, in my book, I mention that Justice Brennan, a long time ago, went to Israel.
	And when he came back, he said, there's only one country we could learn how to balance civil liberties against the fight against terrorism.
	Israel's been doing it for 50 years.
	Sounds like a winner to me, John.
	I think we should be just like Israel.
	They've been doing it tolerably well.
	We can learn a lot.
	Particularly ISIS is now emulating Hamas.
	And so we have to learn also how to fight that kind of terrorism without compromising our liberties.
	The prospect of using human shields, you talked about that.
	That was exactly what was happening in Gaza with Hamas.
	Talk about the difficulties of going through that and understanding where the lines are drawn there.
	Well, ISIS is going to embed its fighters among civilians because it will emulate Hamas' dead baby strategy.
	What Hamas does is it puts it...
	I love that.
	It's a dead baby strategy.
	Surely, you know, of the bishop's pawn to F5, but this is the dead baby strategy.
	This is very abhorrent to listen to this guy talk about it.
	...fighters among civilians, because it will emulate Hamas' dead baby strategy.
	What Hamas does is it puts Israel to the terrible choice.
	Either allow our rockets to kill your civilians, allow our tunnels to kill your civilians, Or respond, and you'll kill our civilians.
	We'll be ready with TV cameras to hold up the dead babies, and you will look terrible in the court of public opinion.
	ISIS is doing the same thing.
	They're hiding their soldiers among civilians in urban areas.
	And we will have to choose whether not to fire at them or to fire at them knowing there'll be some civilian casualties.
	Well, and in terms of firing, the targeted killings now, I mean, is that something of a preferred method of going about assassinations?
	I mean, If you can really target the leaders and not kill civilians instead of blanket carpet bombing, if you can isolate who the leaders are, who the terrorists are, and you can get them, targeted killing is so much better than untargeted killing.
	This guy's a lunatic!
	Targeted killing is so much better than untargeted killing.
	You still kill some people.
	And yet Israel gets condemned for doing it.
	Crazy!
	They condemn us over here with Hamas!
	United States will be condemned for doing it.
	One of the big red herrings is we killed an American citizen.
	Big deal!
	When an American citizen goes over and becomes a combatant on the other side like many did in Germany and in Japan, more in Germany than in Japan during the Second World War.
	Is that true?
	Did people defect to Germany?
	To go fight with the Germans against America?
	Probably some Germans did.
	And Japan?
	Did people go to Japan?
	No, the Japanese that were here, most of them did not do that.
	We locked them up.
	Well, we moved them to internment camps, and many of them decided to join the army, and they allowed them to fight in the European campaign.
	I think he's full of crap, this Dershowitz.
	This can't be true.
	He's crazy.
	He's completely insane.
	He's talking casually about killing people, dead babies.
	It's like, this is not thoughtful.
	And I... Lock everybody up and throw away the key is what he's saying.
	I think I messed this clip up.
	I want to play this last bit from...
	In the age of credible threats and high...
	I messed it up.
	Hold on.
	Let me just get this.
	I can shuttle it to the end.
	You've got to hear his take on torture.
	He did killings now.
	I mean, is that something of a preferred method of going about?
	We'll be condemned for doing it.
	One of the big red herrings is we killed an American citizen.
	Big deal.
	It's coming up right after this.
	You've got to listen to this.
	He goes over and becomes a combatant on the other side like many did in Germany and in Japan.
	More in Germany than in Japan during the Second World War.
	They lose their special status as American citizens.
	They're just combatants and we're entitled to go after them.
	To the point of not allowing those who go over to the Middle East to train to re-enter the country.
	What are your thoughts on that?
	We should make it a crime to go abroad to train to do harm to the United States.
	Then we can welcome them back with open arms and closed bars and put them in jail.
	But we can't just let them go, train, and come back holding their American passport or their European passport.
	They're a We have to adapt the law to the new reality.
	What law do we need to adapt?
	What law do we need to adapt to the new reality?
	You won't believe his answer.
	Do you think it is possible to approach these debates, sir, without emotions inherently becoming involved in them, attached to things like terrorism, privacy, religious beliefs and freedom?
	There's no way.
	I mean, these are highly emotional issues.
	Take the issue of torture, which I write about both in my book and in the column.
	Should we ever under any circumstances use torture?
	My My answer is no, but I think we're going to use it.
	And if we're going to use it, we better have procedures in place to make sure that no low-level CIA agent can do it without the approval of the highest authority in the United States.
	So he is, in fact, advocating for torture.
	Yeah, but it has to be approved by the President.
	Well, he approves killing.
	By the way, he goes on this thing about American was killed big deal because there are...
	Does that really explain the killing of the 16-year-old?
	Big deal.
	In a cafe?
	He's an A-reb.
	That's what I'm hearing.
	I'm hearing a very, very, very racist cocksucker.
	That's what I'm hearing.
	Yeah, I think that's what he is.
	But...
	Alright.
	What else?
	I'm done with that.
	Yeah, I'm done with it too.
	I do have a couple of crazy stories.
	Okay.
	Let's play this.
	This is the, you know, apparently the ISIS ISIL people, the ISIL. We're going to stick with ISIL. ISIL. Somebody said ISIL. Did you hear this guy?
	That's Rice.
	Rice says that.
	Susan Rice says ISIL. Somebody else said ISIL. In Congress.
	So I guess they've rousted, they went to Aleppo and they rousted a bunch of Kurds.
	And so here's the background story, which is the Syrian Kurds Part 1.
	Welcome back to the France Van Kat newsroom.
	Well, over 60,000 Syrian Kurds poured into Turkey since Friday, fleeing intense clashes in the north Syrian province of Aleppo.
	There, the Islamic State group is said to have seized some 63 villages in a lightning offensive and is trying to take control of more towns along the border.
	Local Kurdish fighters are trying to push them back, but for now the violence is just pushing more civilians to flee.
	Gallagher Fenwick is on the Turkish side of the border, All right, so there's a bunch of buses, apparently, but they're showing up in Turkey.
	The Turks don't like this, obviously.
	They had enough problems dealing with these guys.
	Now, so I was listening to part two when they do the report, the remote, and this complaint this guy has I thought was a little bit weak.
	Their face is covered in dust.
	Kurdish Syrian refugees walk around aimlessly.
	They fled to Turkey after fighters of the Organization of the Islamic State threatened their towns.
	We're refugees.
	We don't know where we're going.
	We're moving one step at a time.
	Do you know how far we've been walking?
	Maybe five or ten kilometers.
	The guy walked five miles, which I think a lot of joggers around here do on a daily basis, not to sound like Russell.
	That would be the 10 kilometers is about five miles.
	Right, yeah, actually five kilometers is about...
	Two and a half miles.
	No, about three and a half, I think.
	But this doesn't sound...
	To get to San Francisco at 17 miles, and I can see the city from here, this is not a big...
	It doesn't sound like these guys are...
	This is not walking across Africa.
	That totally sucks, dude.
	To get to some other country, this is a guy walking three miles and he's bitching?
	That blows, man.
	I don't know.
	I just found that to be very strange.
	Where were you?
	I was over there.
	And you walked all the way over here?
	Yeah.
	A whole two and a half, three miles, I think.
	I don't know what I'm going to do.
	Well, you can walk back.
	Oh, I don't want to walk.
	Hey, John, do we...
	Hold on a second.
	Hmm, where is it?
	Did you have something else?
	Oh, we can probably just do this.
	Do you want to quickly...
	This is bad.
	That's tech news.
	That's horrible, Jen.
	It's terrible.
	Yeah, we do have some tech news.
	I had a good one.
	Where's the good tech news?
	Tech news.
	We had like a whole thing with the tech grouch.
	You had it.
	I didn't have it.
	I don't know what's happened to it.
	You push a button and boom, here it comes.
	Okay, let's try this button then.
	iPhone users, you're going to...
	I don't have it.
	It's gone.
	It's just gone.
	My tech news jingles are gone.
	Oh, you'll get them back when you get back to Texas.
	All right, so Apple brought out their phones.
	This is a tech news.
	Okay, Apple brought out the phones, yes.
	Yeah, and here's a report from some guy.
	Oh, you have a report?
	Yeah, Apple waiting in line report.
	Very important.
	...in just the first 24 hours.
	That is about twice the iPhone 5 initial sales numbers.
	Still, those looking for new iPhones right now had to try and buy them the old-fashioned way, standing in line at the Apple Store.
	From coast to coast around the world, we saw Apple customers standing for hours, if not days.
	I can tell you, at the Apple Store here behind me in Palo Alto, California, the first customer actually got here on Tuesday.
	Sarah, back to you.
	They're still in line today!
	These people are nuts.
	Why are you in line, people?
	Yesterday, there was still a line outside of the Apple Store here near Union Square, and people are waiting in line to get in and get their fix.
	They're involuntary social network disorder.
	It's not okay.
	But on this tip, two things happened with Netflix I found very interesting.
	One, Netflix now under severe pressure from Hollywood to ban the use of VPNs, virtual private network.
	Why?
	Because people from unauthorized regions are watching Netflix movies through VPNs.
	Tell me it's not so.
	And of course, it's the only way to block VPN usage is at the ISP level.
	I predict this will be unlawful network traffic.
	Oh, yeah.
	Yeah, that's a good call.
	In fact, it's already unlawful network traffic, and you can play this tech news clip.
	Iranian kids.
	Hold on a second.
	Very interesting stat here.
	Okay, it doesn't really say Iranian, but I got you.
	A report conducted by Iran's Ministry of Youth and Sports polling 15,000 15-29 year olds found that of the 23 million young Iranians regularly using the internet, over 69% are also using circumvention technology to bypass government-imposed censorship.
	Figures that illustrate a strong desire for greater online freedoms, despite the authorities' repeated attempts at implementing a filtering system for online content.
	But this thirst for freedom comes with significant risks.
	As the website for Iran's cyber pleas points out, anyone found using or distributing this circumvention technology, which is banned in Iran, will be severely punished.
	That's what's going to happen here.
	Severely punished.
	We'll be stoned.
	They showed the patch.
	They actually have cyber police.
	And these guys, they have uniforms, they have this patch, and I guess they go into internet cafes and see what people are looking at.
	That's great.
	Meanwhile, because of a filing with the FCC, not the FCC, with the SEC filing, Netflix Is now being accused by...
	Who is accusing?
	Fred Campbell, director of Center for Boundless Innovation in Technology, another front group, is claiming that because of the amendment to their financial filing of August 25th,
	That read, globally, Netflix delivers its traffic without payment to 99% of terminating access networks, that Netflix purposely and knowingly slowed its video streaming service with the attention of blaming internet service providers, which I believe to be true.
	Well, that would be Comcast.
	That's what they target for this other thing, because Comcast refuses to...
	Comcast is actually the net-neutral operation.
	That's the irony of this whole argument, because Comcast was delivering the Netflix feeds the way they deliver everybody else's feeds, except for their own, of course.
	They have a movie rental service.
	But beside the point of everybody else's, it was fair for, you know, voodoo, and the same came from Netflix.
	And then Netflix, of course, has these boxes, these internet appliances that all the ISPs put in their home office, and it increases its throughput.
	So, yeah, they could do that, just to make a point.
	This guy, this Fred Campbell, who wrote this, CBIT.org, Center for Boundless Innovation and Technology, another great scam.
	Fred Campbell, director of the Center...
	Nobody works anymore.
	This guy works.
	He just collects checks.
	It's real hard work.
	I mean, nobody works at a manufacturing job.
	Mr.
	Campbell was formerly a fellow and director of the Communications Liberty and Innovation Project at the Competitive Enterprise Institute.
	My God!
	Why are we still wasting our time on a podcast?
	The president and CEO of the Wireless Communications Association International, chief of the Wireless Telecommunications Bureau at the FCC. Ah, here's some quotes.
	Fred Campbell's counsel was invaluable in helping me craft a pro-investment free market policy for the FCC. I had the privilege of working with Fred during his time at the FCC and saw firsthand how skillfully he handled some of the most challenging issues confronting the commission.
	Fred's work on complex technology issues is first-rate.
	He's smart, diligent, and effective.
	What are these LinkedIn recommendations?
	What are you reading?
	I'm reading from his website.
	Oh, he puts it on his own website.
	Oh, okay.
	This is industry people telling you that he's great to hire.
	Yeah.
	It's just gross, man.
	It's just gross how people are just making money and starting up little bullcrap NGOs and duping everybody.
	Let's save the internet!
	Save the internet!
	Save the internet.
	I have one last clip.
	Good.
	Because this is happening today.
	This is the big Afghani scam.
	They decided to take the elections and say, well, you two guys are going to have to work this out among yourselves.
	And here's what they finally decided.
	The next chief executive officer.
	Catherine Clifford explains.
	It was a record voter turnout on June 14th as 7 million Afghans went to cast their ballot.
	However, it wasn't to be a straightforward election.
	One of the two presidential candidates, Abdullah Abdullah, accused his rival Ashraf Ghani of fraud and called for vote counting to be suspended.
	In July, provisional results put Ghani in the lead with 56% of the vote, results which Abdullah immediately challenged.
	As concerns grew for a descent into the ethnic tensions that sparked civil war in the country in the 1990s, US Secretary of State John Kerry met with the two candidates and brokered a deal between them.
	With respect to national unity, both candidates have agreed to abide by the results of the audit And that the winner of the election will serve as president and will immediately form a government of national unity.
	Two months later, the audits now finished and definitive results are due to be announced this Sunday by the Electoral Commission.
	The two sides say they agree 100% on all points.
	They've just settled the final details of an agreement to share power, whatever the outcome.
	Good work, John Kerry.
	You couldn't get your guy in 100%, but I think he did a fine job.
	He's half in.
	Well, half is good enough.
	Yeah, well.
	Good work.
	Good work.
	The other guy will go along with the program, it looks like.
	I think it's just blasted good work, I say.
	Good work, people.
	Ah, okay.
	All right.
	As always, Jean-Claude, lovely speaking with you.
	You can call me Chuck.
	John?
	That's right.
	All Johns are now Chuck.
	Deal with it.
	All right, I will be returning back to FEMA Region 6.
	And it was good seeing you here.
	You're floating around.
	You look very comfortable.
	You actually like the crowded streets.
	I'm kind of amused by that.
	It was fun.
	Metropolitan, a real, kind of a real cosmopolitan metropolitan area.
	Well, it's always nice when you have a driver.
	Yeah, and an old car.
	Coming to you from downtown San Francisco, risking life and limb with two guardians of reality in the same FEMA region at the same time.
	In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
	And from not downtown San Francisco, actually northern Silicon Valley.
	I'm John C. Dvorak.
	Okay, Chuck.
	We'll be back on Thursday.
	Right here on No Agenda.
	See you then.
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