Time for your Gitmo Nation media assassination episode 641.
This is no agenda.
Tracking government glitches across Gitmo Nation from the South Austin safe house in FEMA Region 6 in the capital of the drone star state in the morning, everybody.
I'm Adam Curry.
And from northern Silicon Valley, where we can pronounce episode, I'm John C. Dvorak.
Fuck you.
It's Black Rod and Buzzkill in We could do it over.
So be cussing people.
We could do it over.
Cussing me out?
Where's the fun in that?
Well, it was fun.
I was going to say, here's what I, the first words I wanted to say after our opening was, I love you, John.
And now I just, I'm taking it all back.
I don't want to say it.
That's good for you.
You've ruined the moment.
I'm glad.
You've ruined the moment.
Who needs that aggravation?
I got enough on my plate.
Oh, man.
You want to hit it over again?
No, no, I'm keeping it.
I love it now.
It's the ugly things that are actually the best.
It's the stuff that never made it on MTV that was the best.
It should be known that we could do it over if we wanted, and we have done the beginning over a couple times.
Yeah, when you messed up.
No.
No, sometimes the deck would stop.
Oh, yeah.
Anything can happen today.
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Ooh, made another rhyme.
And this is one of those last things, like, oh yeah, we gotta do that.
Yeah, we'll do that.
And then, yeah, we gotta make sure we do that.
And then, of course, something breaks, and you're like, shit, we should have done that.
It's very typical.
I barely slept last night, I have to admit, right up front.
Okay, that's why you're grumpy.
Oh, I'm not grumpy.
No, I was, in fact...
You've cussed twice already, and the show just began.
I'm very excited because last night it was one of those moments where all the things...
Now, it's not quite like a 642 pipeline, but in fact, not at all like that, but all the things connected for me in the universe.
We're going to call that for now 642 pipeline.
It's a 642 pipeline.
No, I'm sorry.
That's not the episode number.
It wasn't, but I like the 642 pipeline.
If people go back to 642, there'll be nothing about pipelines in it.
And 642 hasn't even happened yet.
That would be Sunday's show.
What are we on, 641?
Yeah.
Oh.
Maybe it was 462.
462.
I don't know.
But before that, John, Miss Mickey and I had a little road trip that I wanted to talk about briefly to Houston.
Wow, you went to Houston?
All the way to Houston.
You need a special pass, don't you, from Austin to get into Houston?
Isn't there some legal restrictions on Austinians?
Well, interesting you mention that.
We went there specifically for a pass.
As you know, my darling wife, who is a resident alien, has a green card, is in the database...
She's a green alien?
She's a green alien.
She's in the database with a flag, and whenever she re-enters the country, she is always sent to the fish tank to secondary screening, and then depending on how arrogant they are...
Yeah, because from the looks of her, she's an obvious suicide bomber.
Terrorist, yes.
Are those boobs, man?
They're packed with C4. And they always say the same thing.
Oh, yeah, it's a flag.
We can't remove it.
The only way to remove it is to become a member of Global Entry.
Oh, oh, oh.
Oh, you went to...
Oh.
Yeah.
You know, I've signed up for it, and I just keep forgetting to go to the city to get my thing.
And then they say, yeah, you haven't come in.
Then they cancel me, and I have to start over.
And you probably have to pay your $140 all over again.
Tell me about it.
It's a scam.
They never email you telling you when your application's ready.
No, no, no.
They say specifically, keep checking back.
Hit refresh.
So I did this, and it's a very annoying process.
In fact, moreover, which is a word everyone seems to be using these days, it is the exact same information I've already entered at least five times in thousands of dollars worth of documents for her resident alien card, known as the green card, which consists of the last five addresses, the employers, not just for her, but also for me.
They're trying to trip you up.
Well, we'll get to that.
And I decided that for science and research for this show, I would also sign up for the global entry and become a part of the theater to see how this worked.
And so you have to make an appointment, and they have a calendar.
I mean, it's so ludicrous, the web-based system they have for GOES, G-O-E-S, Global Entry System.
Global Overseas Entry System, I think.
It could be.
GOES. You can do this at certain airports around the country.
Austin, actually, you can also do this interview, as they call it, In Austin, but it wasn't available until November.
And of course, we're traveling end of August, September for my birthday to the Netherlands.
So we really wanted to get this done.
And so Houston was the alternative.
Now, for all of the annoyance of the sign-up system and waiting to be conditionally approved, and then, of course, having all the right documentation.
We've also, I've been through this with the interview for Green Card.
We have to have proof of address and utility bills and a copy of the lease.
And, of course, we'd moved since I did all this entry stuff.
So I'm like, listen, we did not move.
We still live here.
Which of course makes Mickey nervous.
He's like, oh, I don't want to mess up.
She's used to the fascists in Europe.
Well, so we arrive, and it's at International Arrivals is where they have the Interrogation Center.
I think it's called Enrollment Center, but to me, I read Interrogation Center.
No, that's what it is.
Interrogation Center is what it is.
And this is where you do this interview for the global entry.
Also, and I didn't know this, you are also then approved for PreCheck.
Yeah, no, that's the reason, yeah.
That's the only reason to get it.
Trusted Traveler Program.
Yeah.
So now we're early, and we left right away on time to make sure.
And we're probably about half an hour early, and we show up, and there's three guys in a big office space.
Office is a big word.
Three desks.
You know, it's kind of like a Silicon Valley startup, really.
And there's three officers, and there's one guy in a little office, and then there's an office next to him has a hand-printed sign that says Amphitheater.
What?
Yeah, Amphitheater.
A guy holding a sign that says Amphitheater?
No, no, a printed sign stuck on this second office wall.
Oh, okay.
They said, oh, you're here for the interview?
He said, yeah, we're together, we're married.
He said, no, no, you've got to do it by time.
Okay, well, you're early, then you can watch the video first.
This was almost like at the gun range we have to watch the safety video.
And it's like...
And I swear to God.
And I'm doing this to the good Lord.
This was the stupidest video I've ever seen.
Global entry system.
And it shows you how to insert your passport into the system.
But then you still need to follow all rules and regulations.
And they show an Asian guy...
Whose suitcase is being opened by a customs border protection officer, and he brings out a plastic bag of six apples.
You must adhere to all rules!
And this is shown over and over again.
The big violation is the Asian guy with the apples, for some reason.
And it's like, okay, this is rather disturbing.
And it's ten minutes, and here's how it works.
And you type, and you type in your name, and you put your fingerprints on the scanner.
Like, are we totally morons?
Okay, we've seen the amphitheater theater movie.
And actually, these guys are all kind of nice.
They're kind of joking around.
It's like, hey, hey, and the guy in the back says, hey, you come over here.
I'll do you, and this guy will do your wife.
But they're kind of fun.
And this guy, I decided to get into it with him.
I said, do you need proof of address?
I said, no, no, no, no.
I just need your driver's license and your passport.
He's not even looking at me.
He's not evaluating me.
And he takes a picture with a Logitech webcam, you know, that drill.
Of course, all ten fingers on the plate.
And then he's like, yeah, so media technology, what do you do?
This is the interview, I guess.
What exactly is that?
I say, you listen to podcasts?
Nah, man, I still use CDs.
Okay, well, I kind of co-invented this thing called podcasting.
No kidding!
Oh man, I love listening to anything 80s music I listen to.
I said, how old are you?
40, 48.
I said, you ever watch MTV? Oh man, I did it when they played videos!
And then all of a sudden you see him looking at me, looking at the name.
I'll get this guy.
And then, you know, bingo, boom, shakalaka.
He makes the connection.
I think he's going to shit himself.
He's like, Ronnie James Dio!
Man, I love those guys!
White Snake!
Oh man, Robert Plant came through.
It's on and on and on.
He's jumping up and down.
This guy is so happy.
And it's fun.
I'm enjoying myself.
This is great!
This global entry is so easy.
We just sit here because we've done 20 years of time.
We're just happy.
We don't have to have a set schedule.
And he's basically telling me that this is theater.
But in a fun kind of way, and we're just talking about books from different rockers who have done their autobiographies.
And we're walking out, we're chatting, we're talking about stuff, and Mickey's there.
Now, Mickey, of course, because, I guess, of the flag or whatever, or because she's not a passport holder, but a resident alien green card holder, the system said, you know, you will be notified if you've been approved.
And so this one guy is saying, I'm approved.
I'm good.
And Mickey says, well, they still have to call me.
She's worried, of course, as am I. Like, oh, we're not going to get some kind of thing that pops up.
And the guy who had interviewed me is like, no, trust me.
We just got to say that.
You're approved.
You're approved.
It's good.
You're in the new database.
Don't worry about it.
And the other guy's like, well, we have to say it because sometimes it pops up.
And this guy's now my buddy for 30 years.
No, that's bullcrap.
You're approved.
The system is bogus.
I'm not kidding.
The system is spoken.
I swear.
And then five minutes later, bing, there's an email.
Mickey's approved, just like he promised.
So this whole thing is really you get moved from one database to the other, and you're good to go.
And it's not connected in any way whatsoever with immigration, which you'd think Customs Border Protection would have some of that, I don't know, immigration information in their database.
It's too much information.
It's too much work.
The big dirty secret of data processing and big data is that you can't make these things talk to each other.
There's always some follow-up.
It's impossible.
This brings me to our lunch, which we had, with our buddy from the...
We always say the consul just to make it easy, but he is from the Dutch...
The Netherlands Business Support Office.
And these are the guys who would always come to Austin with the Consul General that we hang out with and we'll have dinners and make them pay for it.
And they're yelling, you know, kraut at the German house.
Remember those guys?
Oh, yeah.
Crazy guys.
And I already knew this, but I brought it up with him.
For three weeks now, the U.S. visa immigration database, which, of course, in no way is connected to the global entry database, has had a glitch.
And there are hundreds of thousands of people who not only cannot get their visas to come into the United States, and I'm thinking students is the big one, and of course classes are starting, we have professional sports players, entire soccer teams that have not been able to travel, but worse, their passports are at the embassy, because that's how it works.
You send your passport or you hand it to them, and then they'll mail it back to you with the appropriate visa.
Hundreds of thousands of people have...
What?
Yes, and this is the most underreported news everywhere.
This is not reported at all.
Well, it is.
Well, it is on the No Agenda show.
Well, let me give you NPR's way of reporting it.
And so, again, this is the Visa Database.
And it's been essentially non-usable for three weeks.
Hundreds of thousands of people are stranded, not able to travel.
NPR. The U.S. State Department's global database for processing visas and passports is experiencing problems that could cause delays for millions of people around the world who are awaiting travel documents.
U.S. database glitch.
There it is.
Unspecified glitches in the department's consular consolidated database have resulted in significant performance issues, including outages, in the processing of applications for passports, visas, and reports of Americans born abroad since Saturday.
And this is July 24th, so this is the only report I've really seen from some serious mainstream media.
And again, I will say, it is inappropriate, and it is just not okay for journalism in 2014 to talk about these types of huge issues as glitches.
Or outages.
Do some real work, people.
This is an Oracle database.
And I think...
In three weeks, John, something horrible went wrong.
Oh, yeah.
Three weeks of a database like that down for three weeks?
Somebody did something to it.
I think it's probably half destroyed.
They're probably trying to rebuild it from archives.
I think that's the problem, you're right, is that they don't have a full snapshot.
And so they are indeed rebuilding it.
And that could take months.
Yeah, if they don't have whoever was doing the...
Well, we already know that there's backup issues in the federal government.
We had it with the email situation.
It may not be a coincidence that the Lois Lerner's email was lost, and they have to recreate it from archives instead of from backups.
Air quotes, yes.
Lost air quotes.
The real problem emerged after the Bureau of Consular Affairs updated the software for the Oracle-based Consular Consolidated database on July 20th, as has been recommended by the operating company.
Quote, we patched it to try and address the issue.
However, our database began experiencing performance issues shortly after maintenance was performed.
Oh, the old, nothing was broken, so we fixed it.
We believe the root cause of the problem was a combination of software optimization and hardware compatibility issues.
Oh, man.
We believe there was no malicious intent.
It's hardware and the software, issues that we are working on to fix, said a dude named Ben.
This is a disaster.
This sort of thing is bigger than a lot of news media.
Of course, they're a bunch of idiots.
They don't know, to be honest about it.
Tech reporting is down the tubes, so nobody can report about it from that perspective.
And regular news guys don't know anything about tech.
Well, if Oracle had a phone out, then at least they could have tied it into the new phone reporting, and then it would have been a story.
But yes, this is a huge issue, completely underreported.
People are stuck.
Imagine, your passport is also no longer in your possession.
It's at the console.
People should be warned out there if they want to get a visa to wait until this blows over.
They won't have a passport at all.
My advice is just to go to Canada and come in through one of the northern entries.
Aren't there border patrols up there, the northern entries?
Some of the smaller entries don't have a computer.
It just kind of waltz in.
Well, yeah, but you still need the...
See, I don't think ESTA is a problem.
That's probably easy, so there's the tourist stuff.
Well, maybe you should just sneak in through Mexico, it sounds to me.
Seems like that's the way to go these days.
Go to Mexico, come in through with the kids.
Yeah, with the kids.
Drop the kids off.
Drop the kids off in your merry way.
So Gerard, who is running the Netherlands Business Support Office, who we had lunch with, he said, you know, you have no idea.
Businesses that are doing business, there are entire business deals that cannot be done.
There's so much stuff, but particularly education.
It's really the, and from all over the world, we have new semesters starting, getting their stuff ready to go.
They can't start.
And of course, I was like, oh, poor universities, they're going to lose on the money.
They're not going to lose the money.
It's not their fault.
The university will probably have something.
Hey, it's not our fault you couldn't get in here.
Read the fine print.
We're keeping the money.
Read the fine print here.
And then one other lovely thing about our visit.
Girard's office, the Netherlands Business Support Office, is located in the Federal Reserve Building in Houston.
And he said, would you like a tour?
Oh.
Well...
And you would say, and the likelihood of you saying yes was quite high, I'm assuming.
I would say so.
And of course, it's total bullcrap security.
He didn't, you know, he called some guy.
Yeah, I'm bringing some people over.
I don't have to register them, do I? Nah, don't worry about it.
We're walking through doors, people buzzing us through everything.
I'm sure, you know, he's well known, maybe.
But, you know, there was no, we got a little plastic badge.
He could have had a gun to his back.
I'm taking all the money.
There's nothing in the Federal Reserve building that you think is worth anything.
It's better than that.
It's better than that.
This is such a beautiful charade, or charade, which of course has to be upheld in order for people to believe in the idea that this money is real.
And we bumped into the guy who's running something, and Gerard said, oh, do you have time for a quick little tour?
You can go to the Federal Reserve and get a tour.
But it was basically closed.
And the guy said, oh yeah, let me show you, let me show you.
So he takes us over to this viewing room.
And it's like Disney with the animatronics.
You know where you see those people going, eat, eat, with the jerky motions doing things behind the glass?
There's four people there, and there's pallets of money.
Oh, that's $45 million there.
She's cleaning the money and he's counting the money.
It's a theater.
It's a little play.
And then he says, oh, we have these GMOs, MGVVs, automatic...
Yeah, I forgot the acronym.
He had some acronym for these robot trucks that then pick up a pallet of money.
He said, well, you know, when one bank deposits it and we have to put it in the other bank's deposit, the automatic thing comes and picks it up.
So you see these little trucks going into these doors.
Of course, you can't see in the doors, but then you move down to the end of the hallway, and then they have a video screen of the vault, and you're looking in the vault.
And you have a joystick, and you can then control the camera.
Which, of course, is a complete simulation.
It's like Nintendo.
There's nothing going on there.
The charade is huge, John.
This is so well done.
So well done.
Where's the gold?
Say, I'm here on behalf of Angela Merkel.
She'd like to see her gold, please.
And the guy's like, hey, hey, hey.
Yeah, right.
Anyway, I think Mickey...
Another joker.
I think Mickey...
No, I was very calm because Gerard has been helping Mickey out getting shows, you know, art shows in Mexico, and of course she wants to do something in Houston.
And he said, oh, Mickey's got some interesting art.
Have you ever seen her In God We Trust, Crown of Thorns piece?
Yeah, yeah.
So she showed a picture of that to this guy.
He said, oh yeah, we'd love to buy that.
We'd love to have that stuff on display.
Well, the price just went up as far as I'm concerned.
The price just went up.
Yeah, this is good.
Too much enthusiasm.
He said, that's very funny because it's essentially this...
Sorry, I said the word essentially.
This art piece that Mickey made is a crown of thorns, which she did get official from Israel.
And then she wrapped, cut up dollar bills within God We Trust around the thorns.
And it's a beautiful presentation in a nice box with a mirror bottom.
And the guy loved it.
They have all kinds of...
Crazy-ass art all over.
Of dollars.
Of the money.
Of their paper.
Of their product.
In the Federal Reserve building?
Yeah.
It's a museum.
And I picked up a brochure.
Symbols on American money.
Oh, nice!
You should have picked up one for me and mailed it over.
I can share this one.
So what I wanted to know is, you know, what's the deal with the all-seeing eye?
Yeah.
And they do say something about it.
It's explained.
Everything makes sense.
Let me just tell you what it says here.
I got the booklet.
I wanted to read it to you.
They also, you know, explain how the arrows work with the eagle, and it's all very, very symbolic, of course.
What page is it on?
Magical.
Of course it's magical.
Here we go.
To solve the mystery of what these symbols mean, we go directly to the source.
Charles Thompson, who presented his written description of the Great Seal to Congress on June 20, 1782.
So that's all the arrows.
And then where's the eye thing?
The reverse of the Great Seal features an unfinished pyramid, which Thompson states signifies, quote, strength and duration.
The pyramid is comprised of 13 rows of building blocks, on the first of which are the Roman numerals representing 1776.
The Latin inscription Novus Ordem Seclorum translates to a new order of the ages.
Thompson explains that this refers to the new form of government influenced by the poetry of Virgil, He composed this motto himself, writing that signified the beginning of the new American era.
At the top of the pyramid is an eye, with rays that emanate in all directions.
Above the eye, the Latin motto, Annuit Coeptis, translates to, Providence has favored our undertakings, which Thompson explains as, Alludes to the many signal interpositions of providence in favor of the American cause.
Which I think means, Don't mess with us.
Isn't that what it means?
Yeah, yeah.
Because we've got everything going.
It alludes the many signal interpositions of providence.
That's actually not a bad message.
Signal interpositions of providence.
What does that mean?
Interpositions of providence.
I don't know.
I don't know exactly what it means.
I can make wild guesses.
Yeah, we'll make a guess in favor of the American cause.
Interpositions of providence.
I don't know.
It's too complicated for me.
It's only been on the money for a couple hundred years.
Well, it's just all symbolism and, you know, mumbo-jumbo.
It just doesn't do anything.
It doesn't make the bills float in the air.
You can't ward off devils.
Here, look at this.
Back off, devils.
The Eye of Providence.
So, that was nice.
It's all an extension of don't tread on me.
Yeah, which of course is racist.
You can't have that flag anymore.
The snake flag.
What is that flag called?
Yeah, I forgot.
We should know as Confederates.
We should know.
We don't care.
Everyone knows.
The real people know what that is.
I don't know anything.
Okay.
So it was a nice little trip, and it was interesting to learn, A, the entire American security system is just stupid Oracle databases of which half of them don't work.
I know, I think the Customs and Border Protection database is an access database.
I think it just runs on someone's Windows laptop.
And everything else, it's not connected, and it's a huge...
Yes, it's all theater.
You're right, this is theater.
It's all theater.
But also, where was the, are you a terrorist question?
What's the point of me going...
They had to only check the blonde box, so they took care of that.
Okay.
Thank you.
Well, on the other complete opposite side of the spectrum, there was a funny story on...
France Van Cat, which is the criminal boasting story, which is a clip.
I have a clip.
Okay.
Oops, sorry.
Hold on a second.
When did that go wrong?
I have way too many clips today, I'm sorry.
No, it's okay, I have even more.
When the Anne Rundle County Police in Maryland posted a mugshot of a wanted criminal to their Facebook page, they weren't expecting the man himself to help them track him down.
But this is exactly what happened, because he thought he would taunt the police by posting a series of messages under his own mugshot on social network.
He bragged, you'll never find me.
But they did, as they were able to identify his IP address and track him down.
So, a simple story that it is, some idiot sees his mugshot on the police department's Facebook page, and being a Facebook guy, he says, you guys, cops are dumb, you'll never catch me.
Neener, neener.
Just to prove that people don't know how technology, they're completely oblivious to the methodology of the technology, the basis of the technology, that they would be that, to do something like that.
Well, I think worse, when I hear the...
So that's why glitch makes sense to people.
Yes, of course.
Keep people dumb.
But it is NPR, New York Times, Associated Press, who are using these terms.
And the same is, well, of course, Google scanning for kiddie porn, that's good!
Of course they should do that!
If you haven't read about this...
Yeah, they're all in.
Yes, this is illegal content, and it cannot be in your possession.
There are ramifications.
But it is always the way things start.
You always start by thinking of the children, of course.
Who would deny that?
Oh, won't somebody please think of the children?
But what's next?
Hate speech.
Ah, you know, and that's much easier than images, by the way.
You just scan for...
Yeah, you don't have to deal with image recognition.
Yeah, you just scan for words.
Yeah, if you say, you know, something negative about LGBTQQIAP, you know, some slur, it'll be hate speech, you'll be called out, and you may be arrested.
Could be arrested.
You definitely would have your account terminated, so there goes your free email.
Yeah.
But this is the time, this is the moment where people have to realize you're all in and you're going to get voted off the island eventually, or you opt out.
And all I'm seeing is, and hearing is people saying, of course, this is good!
They should do this.
I agree with this.
I'm okay with that.
Yeah, no, that's exactly, well, that's to be expected.
It's very well done.
Very well done.
And so hard.
Yeah, it is well done.
I have another clip.
The FBI and Facebook, they've been together for a long, long time, but the FBI and Gmail or Google, it is the boiling frog thing, I guess.
Just turn the heat up slowly and no one notices what's going on?
No, it was a gradual thing.
For one thing, you start at the schools, and that's the clip I have here just to point this out.
You start at the schools and you start indoctrinating early, and anybody who's had kids in public school, when they come home with some of these cockamamie stories from the teachers...
You know, you have to wonder, you know, what's going on in this part of a larger effort, usually, to promote big government.
And the best example of this, I have three clips.
Oh, boy.
Which is the algae bloom.
There's a big algae bloom, which apparently has made water undrinkable in Toledo.
I found this very surprising, this story.
But I'll let you run with it.
Well, let's go with the beginning one, which is it's all because of global climate change, of course.
Defiable sources of pollution, like municipal sewage treatment plants.
And the lake came back to life.
But in 2011, Lake Erie was hit by the largest algal bloom on record.
Regulators realized the problem went beyond the known polluters to thousands of individual farms and landowners with phosphorus runoff and leaky septic systems.
Climate change made it worse.
Okay, so I'm thinking, well, they got the, through the climate change in there gratuitously, this is a part of a movement that's been going on in the country to regulate out-of-business small farmers.
And we've seen it against the small, raw milk dairies, which have to be small by their nature.
They can't be big because you lose control of the cleanliness if you get too big.
So there's a maximum size that's actually been determined by small farmers.
And so small farmers are really a part of the organic produce business.
They're part of the raw milk business.
They're part of a lot of things.
But the idea is, is to push them out of business.
And the easiest way to do that is through regulation, which is always a positive thing.
And here's the LG dummy part one clip.
And I want to set this up.
This is a woman they brought on from some group, some NGO group.
And she is a millennial dummy.
He's with the Ohio Environmental Council.
Christy, talk to us a little bit about this.
I mean, it seems like there would be a great deal of regulation when we talk about this sort of runoff.
Yeah, thank you.
Thank you for inviting me.
So actually, under the Clean Water Act, only the largest of the largest farms are regulated.
And many farms in Ohio, and we're talking about livestock here particularly, many of those livestock farms fall right underneath that threshold to be regulated.
So largely there is very little regulation.
And when you think about, if you just think about livestock farms, Sewage is regulated.
Human sewage is regulated.
But manure is not.
They consider it a commodity.
So we need to level the playing field.
As we heard prior, industry is regulated.
Wastewater treatment plants are regulated.
We need to put in some regulation that says these best management practices are the ones that you need to strive for.
We know they work.
There's been a ton of research that has been done over the years.
Now, of course...
Level the playing field.
Level the playing field between human crap and cow manure.
It must be equal.
It must be equal.
So she's all in on this bull crap.
And there was another series of things that was on C-SPAN. I don't have clips for today's show.
Discussing the over-regulation of...
In fact, there's committees right now going on trying to back off on all these laws that they're creating.
Just 400 laws a year.
New federal laws...
It's causing a backup in all kinds of, in the judicial system.
And this is all EPA who have very broad powers.
Right, which has, they have to be stopped.
But to show you how stupid this woman is, this, you can play part two.
Is she good looking?
No, she's a goofy looking hipster.
She's got the big glasses.
What's her name again?
Christina something.
And she is a goofy looking hipster that talks like a hipster.
Christina something doesn't really work.
I don't have her name.
Don't worry about it.
Don't worry about it.
You know me.
I left the envelope downstairs again.
Yeah, so you make reference to manure and the absence of regulations on that, but that sort of points to the fact that it's not just Ohio.
There is farmland all over the country with farm animals, with manure crisis.
I mean, where else do we see this sort of a problem?
That's a great question.
Bullshit!
No, you got me.
That was a three-parter.
That was very good.
It was a good setup, John.
Very, very good.
Good payoff.
I liked it.
Deux de point.
Great question.
I like the manure crisis.
Manure crisis.
That slipped in there.
She's full of crap, this woman.
Yeah, well, that's the manure crisis right there.
Wow.
And this is all part of the new religion.
Please, you must believe in science.
Science.
That's what you believe in.
Oh, I believe in science.
Yeah, we received it.
Well, good, because I have a science-oriented clip.
Oh, wow.
So I'm watching the NewsHour with Woodruff, and they're talking about Ebola and all the rest of it.
Oh, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
Hold on a second.
Ebola!
Yes, they're talking about Ebola.
Yeah, they're talking about Ebola.
And Woodruff, there's a couple of things I noticed.
One is...
This is kind of an interesting clip of her talking to some guy who was one of the Ebola doctors, and he tried to say that they won't let him use experimental drugs while he was in Africa.
And she asked the question...
Who's they?
And then here's his answer, and then I'm not going to play the whole thing went on forever, but I just play the part of this is NewsHour Ebola follow-up question.
And other trials.
So, unfortunately, what I was faced with was resistance, saying you can't do experiments during an outbreak, and that didn't come to pass.
And unfortunately, some of my dear colleagues lost their battle to Ebola virus.
Where was that resistance coming from, Dr.
Gary?
Many people say that you shouldn't do research during an outbreak, but I think that this outbreak is totally different.
It's not in Central Africa.
It's not so easy to get around a small village.
Do you think that she does a follow-up and says, well, I asked you who, there must be somebody, not just people.
Does she do that?
Let me think.
No.
No, she doesn't.
It goes on and on and on.
She just ignores the fact that he didn't answer the question.
So she loses a point.
So then she loses another point on this.
This is the news hour.
She stops the presses for breaking news, essentially.
And listen to this stop the presses moment and tell me how important it really is.
They have received an experimental drug, ZMAP, that had never been tested on humans.
The drug is extremely limited in supply, and today the World Health Organization announced it is convening a medical panel next week to consider the ethics of making ZMAP more widely available.
And there is a late-breaking piece of information.
President Obama was asked this afternoon as he met with the African leaders who are here meeting at a summit in Washington, he was asked about that drug made available to the two American health care workers.
He said, quote, all the information is not in yet on the new Ebola drug.
He said we need to let the science guide us.
Okay.
Can I take it from here?
Oh, you got it.
Okay.
First, I will play a clip.
Thank you very much for the lead-in.
And, of course, you did such a phenomenal job two episodes ago of explaining the relation of Ebola to HIV and AIDS and climate change.
People, I encourage you to go back and listen to that.
That was just one of the classic no-agenda deconstructions.
So there's a doctor from the NIH, National Institute of Health, and he's showing up everywhere, and he's doing a lot of the interviews.
His name is Fauci.
And I'm just going to play pretty much his party line that he's been doing in every single news show.
With proper care, people can do well.
This is a very serious disease.
It has a mortality in some cases up to 90%.
By the way, what does that mean, up to 90%?
Is that 3%?
Well, you know, it doesn't actually make any sense if you think about it, because here's what you have.
You have a group of people that have got it, and some of them die.
That's your mortality rate.
So how does it go up to 90%?
I mean, it's either going to be...
I don't know how it can vary.
If you've got 1,000 people and 60% of them die at 60%, if 90% of them die, it's 90%.
It's not like going up and down constantly, unless the sample size is changing.
I suppose there was a group amongst us, the Cote d'Ivoire group, that there was maybe 10 people and 90% of them died.
I don't know.
I don't know what it means.
It doesn't mean anything.
It's just, it's like 97%.
That would be the point.
Yes.
And that, to me, that was kind of my tip off.
I'm like, hold on a second.
This is the guy who's speaking on behalf of the National Institute of Health, and I started to look into him, but we'll listen to the rest of what he had to say.
But when you say stuff like this, like the science is in, consensus up to 90%, words matter, people.
That is bullcrap.
If you give good care to individuals, replenish their fluids, make sure that their organ systems are functioning well, they can do well.
We're very encouraged by the fact that Dr. Brantley was able to get here.
And at this point, I'm thinking he talks kind of like a crook.
You know what I mean?
And like, yeah, at this point, Dr.
Brantley could get here.
We got it all under control.
You give the guy some fluids.
He's now apparently recuperating in the sense of having his vital signs monitored and making sure that he does get a complete recovery, which we're all hoping for.
And the fact that he was walking, doctor, does that say anything to you about how he's doing?
Yeah, like it's bogus.
That is very important.
Everyone saw that on TV, him getting out with some assistance from the ambulance.
The fact that he's able to walk into the hospital is a very, very good sign.
It seems like maybe the next turn in all of this is that you guys have a vaccine on humans that you'll start testing in the next month.
What is the latest on this vaccine?
Because so many people have heard no cure for so long.
Is this scripted?
Yes, and you're getting to my point.
Again, people need to understand the difference between treatment and a vaccine.
What I was talking about, which we have really some very favorable results on, is a vaccine to prevent infection.
And this would be very relevant to healthcare providers who put themselves at high risk in taking care of individuals.
We tested it in monkeys.
It looks really good.
It protects monkeys completely from challenge.
With Ebola, they don't...
Ebola's here for the monkeys.
Say hey with the monkeys!
And they don't die, whereas unvaccinated monkeys all do.
Screw the monkeys!
We're going to start human trials in September in normal volunteers.
And if that looks good, by January we should be able to scale up in its production.
Scale up in its production.
This sounds very vaguely familiar to me.
Sounds a lot like the swine flu virus, scaling up production, all of this stuff.
Very vague type of talk.
So looking at this guy, Anthony Fauci, F-A-U-C-I. Very important guy in the HIV, AIDS, medical circles.
And he has a...
I'm reading from the Wikipedia.
This is kind of where I got on the trail.
This part of my story is not complete.
I'll have to finish this on Sunday.
Fauci has made a number of basic scientific observations that contribute to the current understanding of the regulation of the human immune response and is recognized for delineating the mechanisms whereby immune suppressive agents adapt to the human immune response.
He has developed therapies for formerly fatal diseases such as Polyardorus nodosa, Wegener's granulomodus, whatever that is.
He made influential contributions to the understanding of how HIV destroys the body's defenses, leading to the progression to AIDS. So, very important guy in the HIV-AIDS immune deficiencies world.
And he holds a patent, and this is the thing that I'm going very deep on, and if you Google this guy and you go deep, there's a lot of people who are calling this guy a crook, it's a scam, so the patent is the IL-2 antiviral patent.
And somehow this patent, which he holds, and I guess is licensed to certain pharmaceuticals, It's kind of like an overarching patent for all immune deficiency type diseases or viruses or whatever you would call them.
I'm not a medical doctor.
Is this the patent that takes on any virus and then chops it off at the legs symbolically?
I believe so.
So it's a general antiviral.
It's an overarching patent.
And he was a big part of the...
What was the drug that everyone was actually dying from?
The cancer drug.
There's a couple of them.
Well, there was the one that was also...
Oh, man, I'm sorry.
It's okay.
It's hard to do these things, though.
Well, so I'm bringing this up because we have a lot of doctors who listen to the show and are co-producing the show.
And there are fora aplenty on the Internet about this guy and this patent, and people really despise him for it.
And he's got a huge salary at NIH. How do you spell his name again?
F-A-U-C-I. F-A-U-C-I. Very super, super elite guy, and he pops up in this conversation, and now I'm connecting what you said about HIV and AIDS and connecting that to Ebola, and then this guy, and he's working on the vaccines, it works in the monkeys.
Yeah, it seems screwy that this guy who's an HIV expert would be involved in Ebola unless there was something weird going on.
Exactly.
Exactly.
So, while I'm researching that, then all of a sudden, it all comes together.
Boom!
Actually, not boom.
Okay.
I'm all ears.
Bingo!
Boom shakalaka!
Out of the heavens.
It was a very interesting little thing going on.
A little party that happened in Washington, D.C. Did you happen to notice this?
No, I was not in a partying mood.
There was a summit organized by the State Department and kind of hosted by the President.
You're talking about the African thing?
Yes, sir.
Yes, sir.
Of course I noticed that.
That's where all the action was.
Well, where's all this Ebola taking place?
Thank you.
Africa.
Now all of a sudden we have all the presidents and royalty, which we'll laugh about in a moment, coming from Africa, all the African countries, showing up.
We're handing out billions of dollars.
We're making promises.
I'm pretty sure that there's a connection to be made with the Ebola virus because of course we're sending healthcare people and it's very important to help Africa and maybe you guys better play along and we'll send some freaking Ebola to your house.
Remember Harf said the Ebola attack?
Yeah, Ebola attack.
The coincidence of the Ebola virus at its...
We have the OJ, the ambulances, the OJ shot of the ambulances driving down the highway.
Oh, there's the doctor.
We may have a vaccine.
Hello, African presidents!
Hello!
I want you to go to, John, the following URL, itm.im slash Africa.
Itm.in.
I am.
Slash Africa.
Oh, slash Africa.
It is a forwarding link to the mail online. Itm.im slash Africa.
Do you have it?
It should go to a daily mail page.
Yeah, Daily Mail.
Okay.
So the article is about how the White House opened its doors to some of Africa's most evil dictators and homophobes, which of course is true.
You know, these people kill gays.
But I just wanted to show you the lunacy of these people, of these African leaders.
So scroll down.
First you see the Equatorial Guinea president with his wife.
Yeah.
Just look at the...
Remember, these people, you know, they're president, but they dress and act like they're queen and king.
So here's his wife...
Why are the Marines saluting these two people?
Are they part of the military, U.S. military?
No, this is all part of the theater.
So we had to have this...
Because, of course, we want to get rid of the Chinas.
We'll get to that in a moment.
But here are all these people coming to the White House...
And there's this woman in the big blue dress.
Now look at the next one.
This actually is okay.
President Blasey of...
Where are they from?
Burkina Faso.
All these people have bloody coups and they have billions of dollars.
They've got 747s custom interior.
So his wife has a yellow outfit.
But looking down next, the president of Cameroon and his wife, she's a complete pink...
Yeah, she looks like she should be on a chorus line in a Brazilian production of some sort.
That is just outrageous what she's wearing.
Yeah.
Now we scroll down.
She also powers over this midget.
And then we have Angolan President Jose Eduardo de Santos, who isn't even African.
I don't know, he's like some Chinese guy.
I don't know what his deal is.
No, he's in Japan, so this is not a picture taken at the event.
Ah, okay, thank you.
Now next, this is my favorite.
This is Gambia Yahya Jemei.
He is the president of Gambia Yahya Jemei.
Now you scroll down and he's with the President.
You see a picture of him with the President.
Now he is wearing, I think he has the sheets from the Lincoln bedroom that he took.
And if you are an African leader, you can carry sticks and beads and he's shaking hands with President Obama.
He's holding his wallet because something's about to be inserted.
But look at this stick that he's holding.
Now here's what I think.
So this guy, he's talking, he's hanging out with his buddies.
They're on the jet.
Yeah, flying to D.C. You know, they're going to go get a couple billion dollars of which they'll pill for most.
He says, hey, I got a great idea.
I'm going to throw on these sheets.
And you see this butt plug?
I'm going to put it on a stick and I'm going to hold it right next to the president.
And he'll be laughing.
Look at that thing.
It's a butt plug on a stick.
It's impossible.
What does this signify?
Is this the talking stick?
This is outrageous.
This is outrageous theater.
Then if you scroll down, you'll see the president.
And his part of the theater is to hold up his glass there in a toast with the golden eagle in front of him.
Well, you know, I got all the toasting, but when you get down to the Rwandan president of all the places you think are crude, they look like they just stepped out of a show in Paris.
They look terrific.
Now, this guy, he doesn't look great.
He looks pretty crappy, but his wife.
So this guy, he's got the 747.
He's got the billions of dollars.
He's got a supermodel.
Give me one of those Iman things.
Yeah, yeah, that's the one.
He's got a supermodel.
Believe me, this guy would never get her in a million years.
Now scroll down.
Here's Good Luck Jonathan.
Good Luck Jonathan, right?
Now look at the picture of the President, the First Lady, and Good Luck Jonathan.
Good Luck Jonathan has gold braids on his dress with that stupid hat, and he's pinned a medal on himself.
I got a medal.
You got a medal.
Now let's just look at the composition of this picture, because I really spent some time deconstructing this event.
This is not the President's event.
This is...
State Department's event, and these two, the President and First Lady, were just brought in to do some photos.
So look at his suit.
Did he sleep in that thing?
That is the worst suit.
It is ill-fitting.
Yeah, look at his suit.
You've got to put a link to the show notes to this.
Yeah, of course.
No, I haven't.
Yeah, very good observation about the suit.
And look at Michelle.
She looks horrendous.
She's got her slave bangle armbands on.
Really inappropriate.
But who came up with this setting?
And this is where they took all the pictures.
With the flowers and the door in the background?
Who is running this show?
The State Department.
Carrie.
And they're making him look as bad as possible.
And he took pictures with everybody there.
If you scroll down, you'll see more of that.
Okay.
Now let's play his little clip.
Yeah, and in fact, there's another picture with this guy from Kenya, and you're right, Obama looks like, this does not look like the slick Obama we're used to seeing.
Not being run by...
It looks like he rolled out of bed, you're right, he looks like he's taking a nap.
And he was just rolled out to shake hands, he did a four minute speech, very, you know, toast, which I took...
And what was George Bush doing there?
Well, he owns Africa.
Are you kidding me?
The Bushes?
Please.
They own so much.
So then they did the big group picture.
All very uncomfortable.
Everyone's waving.
Okay, great.
And this is going to lead to what we all know.
It's a beautiful...
The timing is beautiful.
We've got Russia.
We're squeezing Russia.
By squeezing Russia, we're pushing China back.
Bingo!
Boom!
We bring in everybody from Africa.
We threaten them with the Ebola, and we're going to give you some money and play along nicely.
Again, this is a neocon move.
This has very little to do with the Obama administration.
Here is his speech as he tries to yuck it up with everybody and make everybody feel comfortable and show the significance of this event.
On behalf of Michelle and myself, welcome to the White House.
This city, this House, has welcomed foreign envoys and leaders for more than two centuries.
But never before have we hosted a dinner at the White House like this, with so many presidents, so many prime ministers all at once.
So we are grateful for all the leaders who are in attendance.
We are grateful to the spouses.
I think the men will agree that the women outshine us tonight in the beautiful colors of Africa.
I have two words for you.
Predator drones.
You will never see it coming.
Also with us are the words of a song.
He just slipped that in there.
New Africa.
Very funny.
That inspired so many across the continent and that Michelle and I first heard last year in Senegal.
Come together, New Africa.
Work together.
Which, by the way, is Yasu Ndur, who did that song.
I have that in the show notes as well.
When you bring Yasu Ndur in to do a song, then this thing is set up good.
That's not Shakira.
This is the elitist Shakira.
Keep on working for Africa.
Work for it!
So I propose a toast.
Drink!
To the new Africa.
New Africa!
The Africa that is rising and so full of promise.
Uh-huh.
And to our shared task to keep on working for the peace and prosperity and justice that all our people seek and that all our people so richly deserve.
Cheers.
Drink, you fools!
Enjoy your dinner, everybody.
Enjoy your dinner, everybody.
Okay.
Um...
So this is a big to-do, and it's run by the State Department.
Oh, Biden, by the way, gets to talk.
He always puts his foot in his mouth.
He's such a douche.
Yeah, he did a typical Joe move.
You have this?
Of course.
The sky is the limit.
I mean, it is limitless.
There's no reason the nation of Africa cannot and should not join the ranks of the world's most prosperous nations in the near term, in the decades ahead.
This is one country for Joe.
The nation of Africa.
This is on the level of the dumbest thing that George Bush ever said, or beyond, or what's the other guy that used to be in there?
Dukakis?
No, no, the kid who became the blood czar.
The blood czar?
Yeah, the vice president of the United States who owns all the blood banks or whatever.
You discovered all this.
I did?
I did?
Yeah.
Now you're freaking me out.
I don't know what you're talking about.
Oh my God.
The blood bank president.
The blood guy, yeah.
Okay.
Cheney?
He was vice president.
Who was before Cheney?
The vice president before Cheney was Clinton Gore.
Before Gore.
Bush Sr.
No, no, Bush Jr.
Who's Bush Jr.'s vice president?
Cheney.
No, I mean Bush Sr.
Sr.
Well, that's a good question.
Oh...
Wow, I don't know, man.
Quail.
Quail.
There you go, Quail.
Quail, the blood guy.
Quail.
You don't remember developing his blood back?
You know, he owns all these blood operations.
Yeah, but he's the CEO of Siberius.
People thought he was dumb, but boy, he's not.
No, actually, I knew somebody who knew him and said he wasn't dumb at all.
No.
Apparently he was a gaff master.
You don't become the CEO of...
But he says some of the dumbest crap, and this would be one of them.
The nation of Africa.
Yeah.
So, very good.
Did anyone in the mainstream media pick up on this?
I didn't notice.
Yeah, of course not.
Sure, every time Quail said anything like, you know, adding an E to the word tomato, which you would do in plural, and it actually turns out, or potato, one of the, I was potato.
Potato, potato, yeah.
Yeah, but then, you know, this was before our time, but I looked into it at the time, and apparently in some parts of the Midwest it's quite acceptable to add the E. Yeah, but it was funny to make fun of him.
Oh yeah, oh, dummy, Republican.
Yeah.
So, Joe, he speaks of the nation of Africa, which makes total sense.
It's alright.
I mean, he should say continent or the nations of Africa.
Nations would be work.
Before I get to the clips that are going to just blow it all out of proportion, we have a couple of news stories, all of these in the show notes.
So we have U.S. to help establish Africa peacekeeping force.
This is all coming out of this summit.
President Barack Obama said the U.S. will help establish a peacekeeping force in Africa, which they're always armed, by the way, the peacekeepers.
And this is, of course, because an experimental Ebola drug is being tested in the U.S., And remains unready yet to be distributed in affected West African nations.
But when they do, then of course they'll need peacekeepers to billy club people down who want to jump the line.
The peacekeepers will be there.
And by the way, the real test is going to be on these people.
That's for sure.
Then we have the president came out with a memorandum, establishing a comprehensive approach to expanding sub-Saharan Africa's capacity for trade and investment.
This is part of the $7 billion that just appeared out of nowhere, although it's accounted for, unlike other pieces of money.
Fact sheet, also released by the White House, U.S. engagement on climate change and resilience in Africa.
So you see kind of how we're managing the story is climate change, Cap and trade.
We have Ebola.
We're going to help you.
Peacekeeping.
Executive order for the President's Advisory Council on doing business in Africa.
And the World Bank, which I think we pretty much run, don't we?
Let's hope so.
Has pledged $200 million to contain Ebola in Africa.
Meanwhile, we have to be very afraid.
We have to keep the citizens scared in America.
As disease experts warn, terrorists could make dirty bomb containing Ebola.
Ah!
Let me write that one down.
I really love that.
But then, the following happens.
And this is where I just love this so much.
Carrie does a sit-down interview with Hard Talk, BBC News.
And the woman is interviewing him in his office or wherever it is during the summit.
Because of course he flew back for the summit because this is his show.
This is the neocons.
This is the Yalies.
This is the Kagans.
This is part of the whole game.
As I said earlier, push Russia and China off to the side.
We've got to get them all out of Africa.
This is classic economic hitman stuff.
If you have not read the book, this is something that our entire show is kind of based on in its genesis.
The book Confessions of an Economic Hitman by John Perkins, who since then we think has kind of flipped to the other side.
He just doesn't want to get shot.
He would too if you had a gun to your head.
And what I like about the BBC methodology, they don't ask the questions as if they have an opinion.
They will always find a quote from someone who asked or said something, and then they'll ask a question.
So an example would be, Professor Numambulu said that the United States really do not have Africa's best interests at heart.
What is your response to this?
Which is a roundabout way of asking a pretty rude question.
But it could also be, you know, crackpot and buzzkill.
I think the size and shape of your head resembles out of a watermelon.
Your response, Secretary of State.
So I didn't play all of those questions, but this is why I think this style of interviewing gets to the heart of a lot of the questions that otherwise cannot be asked.
And I encourage United States mainstream media to do this same kind, to apply this technique.
It actually requires reading.
Well, this woman, I don't know who it is from Hard Talk.
She's good.
I appreciate it very much.
Hard Talk has had its moments.
It's a good show.
Yeah.
Okay, the Deputy National Security Advisor in the White House, Ben Rhodes, has said, as far as this Africa-US summit is concerned, the US brings something unique to the table.
What is it that the United States can offer in terms of African policy that other nations cannot?
Well, what do you think the answer would be, John?
What do we bring to the table that other nations cannot?
Security.
Yes, a good one.
I like the security angle.
Our dollars, our money as a base for all transactions.
Very good.
Yeah, I like that.
Our good looks, our good looks, our whiteness.
Yes.
Look at our honky self, man.
We're not like those yellow people.
Well, first of all, I think there is no country that is as entrepreneurial and that combines science and technology and innovation in the way that we do.
Our companies, I believe, are really unique in that regard, and we have many of them already involved in Africa.
I mean, we have a company like General Electric.
For years, it's been doing business in Africa.
We have Dow Chemical.
For years, it's been doing it.
I mean, they have a huge number of projects.
Do you dispute these facts?
No, he was just bringing out these big...
First he goes on in innovation and all the rest, and he brings out these big, giant corporations who are essentially exploitative at this point in their histories.
They are a true entrepreneur.
GE, bringing entrepreneurialism...
The first thing I think of is entrepreneurialism.
Bringing entrepreneurialism to light.
So we have experience, and we don't come into a place, as some countries do...
With a simple deal and simple finance and bring our workers in or something else.
Which country is that you think you're in particular?
You can play with all of that.
Is that China in brackets?
What I'm saying is we can...
We're not going to answer.
Is that China in brackets?
He's not going to answer that.
But he basically...
Why wouldn't he answer that?
What a chicken shit thing to say.
Well, this is...
He described the Chinese technique, which was to come in with simple deals that make sense and then bring your own people in.
And that's what the Chinese do.
And that's what he described.
Why didn't he say Chinese?
This kind of thing is annoying.
Well, wait until you hear the rest.
You're going to point the finger.
Well, he is a chicken shit.
And this is classic economic hitman stuff.
And he just doesn't want the word.
He does bring up China later.
He says the word.
But he just wants to keep it away and explain all the good things we're doing.
And of course, there's a meme coming up.
There's a word.
But of course, we know this is only about oil and minerals.
That is what Africa is.
That's why everyone is in there.
Is that China in practice?
China!
What I'm saying is we come in, I think, with a willingness to work in ways that train employees, build something, and increasingly...
People are looking at the downstream investment impacts for the long term here.
I mean, look, these things evolve.
Nothing happens overnight.
But over the course of time, I think the U.S. brings a remarkable set of disciplines and of capacity and technology for transfer that is critical to Africa at this point.
Okay, so he basically said nothing other than we don't bring in our own workers like the Chinas do.
And we have complex financial deals.
We don't do anything simple where you just sign your X on the bottom line, Mr.
Wearing a sheet with your dildo on a stick.
No, we make it complicated, but we'll pay you off.
Here comes the meme, the word, that is very important because...
We need to give these African leaders of the nation of Africa a story.
They need to go back and say, hey, we're going to get health care, education, security, and we're going to bring in democracy.
Yes, I'll get more money in my own private bank accounts.
And it's not at all about oil or anything.
Please, please, the word, the word is coming up.
We'll use this word many times in the future.
You say that the United States, unlike other countries, does not rely on natural resources like oil and so on.
No, we also do that.
Of course we build.
No, we do that, but we're not only...
So what's the difference?
No, no, no, no, we're looking much beyond that.
Of course we do.
We also have extractive, and much...
Extractive!
We have extractive.
Have you ever heard this term?
I think he was trying to say something else.
No, it is a term.
It'll come up later in another clip.
This is the term they use.
Extractive.
But in what was the context?
We have extractive?
Yeah.
Extractive as in a whole industry, I guess.
Extractive.
Instead of saying...
Wait, wait, wait.
Let's back it up.
Play the clip.
Back the clip up 5-10 seconds and play it.
5-10 seconds.
By your command.
Here we go.
Of course we do.
We also have extractive.
And much...
I'll back up a little more for you.
No, that's fine.
I want to hear what he says after that.
Well, you'll hear it come back.
This is their turn.
...on natural resources like oil and so on...
No, we also do that.
Of course we build.
No, we do that, but we're not only...
And make no mistake, we also take oil, yeah?
No, no, no, no.
We're looking much beyond that.
Of course we do.
We also have extractive.
And much of the relationship until recently was defined by that.
Our desire is to move it well beyond that.
And what are the reasons for that, Secretary of State?
Because we've listened to people in Africa.
Is that the reason why we're listening?
We listened to them.
We heard them.
We hear from people in Africa that they want more than just that.
They don't want a relationship in which they're simply exporting oil or gas or minerals of one kind or another.
They want to build their countries.
They are rare earth minerals of one kind or another.
They don't want that.
They want more from us like money in their Swiss bank account.
And we respect that and understand that because it is critical to building civil society, to respecting human rights, to developing democracy, and ultimately to being able to provide stability.
Oh yes, of course.
With all these jabronis wearing hats and carrying sticks, who hate gays, kill them.
Disgusting.
But of course, it's maybe better than the Chinas.
Here he goes, our economic hitman, watermelon head Kerry, and I think he does bring up China here.
There are other global competitors, and of course, China, for instance, just take one statistic, has 150 commercial attaches across sub-Saharan Africa.
You know how many the United States has?
Eight.
Ooh!
Snap!
Snap!
I think there's a difference in the approaches between China and the United States.
About 135 or more.
I love how he wheels his way out of this.
Approaches between China and the United States.
He said China.
He actually said China.
This is huge because he had to.
The United States has eight.
I think there's a difference in the approaches between China and the United States.
We're still the biggest investor in Africa.
And I am convinced that out of this conference will come even more significant investment.
We had a dinner last night with four heads of government presidents of various countries, all of whom were extremely excited by what they heard about the kind of partnership that is offered by the United States.
Look at this check!
Where it is not just extractive and selling one particular kind of deal, but it is really structured and built around the needs of a particular country and has much greater ability to be able to train workers, provide workers with ongoing skills, and a longer-term employment capacity, which is very different from what other countries and other companies do.
By the way...
According to France 24, the Europeans, which is mostly the French, have three times more investments in Africa than the United States.
He's very specific about this.
There's a difference between investment and companies.
I don't know if I have that in the clip.
And the Chinese have three times more than the United States.
So he's obviously got some definition that is not right.
But okay, whatever.
But we have something very specific that these other nations don't have.
And we have the cure.
You notice there's no other scientists anywhere in the world working on this.
There's no news about...
Seriously, you're going to tell me that no other scientists are going, let's solve this huge crisis and let's get a vaccine for Ebola.
None of that.
No, it's the Americans.
And we're bringing our guys back.
See, we can save people and they're alive.
John, I'm telling you, this Ebola thing, which you called very early on, you said, watch out for it.
It's not like people haven't been dying for years of Ebola.
Of course they have.
But I have the feeling that something we may have a little hand in this, if not just a media story, which is also bad.
Maybe there's something else to it.
Why have this summit at the height of the hype?
It's all beautiful.
Here is Carrie.
I only have two more clips here.
Showing us the true globalist nature of his ways.
He doesn't really care about America.
He really cares about just being part of the ruling set.
And even that, I think he just cares about what movie he's going to watch and if he's going to get popcorn.
But he's pretty slick.
You do invest in Africa.
Let me just tell you what Ali Khan Satu, Chief Executive of Rich Management Nairobi, that's been approved by the Nairobi Securities Exchange as an advisory service.
He says, look at Kenya.
America is already heavily invested.
We issued a euro bond in Kenya where we borrowed $2 billion.
66% of that was bought by North America.
And just in that you see that North America is putting the capital down, as you say, that Africa is then using to build infrastructure.
The irony is that most of this stuff is being built by Chinese contractors and not the Americans.
You're putting the investment in, but somebody else perhaps is benefiting.
Well, that's life.
I bet it is.
That's his answer?
That's life.
Yeah.
He expands, but notice her quote is, she didn't say the United States, she said North America.
That includes Scandinavia.
Canada's a big investor.
And they've got a big relationship with the Chinas, which we, of course, are losing out on without the pipeline deal.
You know, it also shows that we're not in it just to have our own contractors come over.
We are doing this because we think it's the right thing for Africa.
Oh, yeah.
Fail.
Epic fail.
Save the poor black children in Africa.
Epic fail.
And indeed, other countries and other companies will benefit.
More power to them.
Oh yeah.
Ultimately...
As long as I got stock.
More power to them.
This is good for Africa and it's good for these countries to have the stability and the capacity as they build.
We will all benefit from that on a global basis.
There will be less Boko Haram's.
Less al-Shabaabs.
There will be less cause for people to have their minds filled with extremist ideology rather than to engage in the broader benefits of society.
And we're interested in that, and I'm glad we are as a country.
So I hear him in reverse.
I hear him saying, do you like the al-Shabaabs?
Then go ahead, don't do business with us.
I hear it as a veiled threat.
How can he say because we're going to do a deal with Nigeria that there will be less Boko Haram?
How can he say that?
Only one way.
Either we control them or we bring in more drones and troops and we'll control them that way.
I find that very offensive as a member.
That's no agenda style interpretation.
The BBC woman is not going to even consider.
But as a member of the African nation, I'm highly insulted.
Final clip, because of course he has to...
It depends on whether they pick up on that.
It probably is communicated differently to them.
Okay, go on.
Remember, these are the guys wearing sheets and carrying sticks.
It's a huge scam, this.
Okay, of course Kerry has to make his boss look good or his so-called boss because he's there taking all the pictures in his bad suit and we talk a bit about his legacy.
I just love the legacy that is being created by the neocons for the president.
This Africa summit with the US gives Obama an opportunity at the end of his term for people to see a clearly defined legacy.
What will that be?
Well, I think, look, the legacy clearly will be this remarkable growth and development that takes place in Africa and that begins to benefit the world and begins to bring people together and offers an alternative.
This is the legacy of President Obama?
All of a sudden he saved Africa?
Is that his legacy?
To some of the poverty and extremism that fills the vacuum.
That is one thing.
But beyond that, the president's legacy is not going to be defined by one specific initiative abroad or elsewhere.
This is the president's past health care for all Americans, the president who saved the economy at a time that it was in crisis.
He put on his cape, he flew around and saved the economy.
Does he hear these words coming out of his pie hole?
Who has created...
I mean, there are a whole series of things in counter-terrorism and other things.
Counter-terrorism!
Not defined by one thing, but I think it will add to that, sure.
It's a powerful edition.
Powerful edition.
So there you have it.
It is, in a nutshell, very, very simple.
We've got hundreds of millions of dollars from the World Bank.
We have $7 billion appropriated to go to building a democracy, etc., in Africa.
And then I think the Trump card, which...
And by the way, the Chinese are leaving places in droves.
My theory has always been, thank you very much, Chinese, for building the road, the schools, the operations.
Now get out.
If you don't get out, we will have Boko Haram, Al-Shabaab, Al-Qaeda and the Maghreb.
What all these names will have someone go in and kill you.
And this is what happened in Libya.
Everybody out.
Oil is flowing.
This is what's happening all over Africa.
Yeah, we have to remind our listeners what happened in Libya because the Chinese were actually building cities there.
Yeah.
And now they're just shells.
There's no Chinese left.
The first 30,000 people to evacuate were all Chinese.
Right.
All Chinese.
And then we rebelized the place for letting the Chinese in in the first place.
Teach them a little lesson.
Yeah, well, there's a lesson.
We can rebelize Africa.
Maybe that's what's in the cards.
Well, I believe they've...
I truly believe they want to do it in a less rubblized way.
I don't see why.
Well, they're trying this...
I think they're trying the Ebola trick.
See if that works.
These guys are all corrupt.
It's very easy.
You go down that list of that Daily Mail article, even if you chop everything in half...
And of course, right off the bat, they are allowing known anti-homosexual...
I don't want to use the homophobe word because I don't think they have a crazy fear of homosexuality.
I think they just want to kill people.
Kill some gays.
They kill gays, they throw them in jail, they overthrow countries, they have hundreds of millions if not billions of dollars, these so-called leaders, and they got funky suits, airplanes, hot models, and they got oil.
And they have some infrastructure already built by the Chinese.
And here we have our African-American president.
Perfect story, perfect guy to bring it all together for the African coup while everyone else is preoccupied and being shoved away and everyone else being essentially the bricks.
And this is Brzezinski's grand chess game to a T, John.
To a T, John.
Well, more power to him.
That guy, Anthony Fauci, we know him.
We have heard him before on an Evergreen clip.
I've seen him before.
What clip is he on?
Dr.
Fauci, thanks so much, as always, for joining us.
Good to be here, Brolf.
Brolf.
He really cares.
He's the Brolf guy.
He's the Brolf guy, exactly.
Exactly.
Do you ever do any work?
He seems to be on shows all the time.
Fauci, that guy Fauci.
So this to me is, it can't be a coincidence.
It's summer.
You know, it's hot.
Everyone's supposed to be on vacation.
Then we have this big thing going on with the Marines saluting everybody.
A bunch of douchebags.
Known killers of people in the nation of Africa, Joe.
I mean, just look at John.
Good luck, Jonathan.
Please.
It's insulting, this guy.
That's the hat he got from George Bush, correct?
I believe it is, yeah.
He just keeps wearing it with his dress.
He's got a dress on.
Gold braids and stuff.
So, we shall see if they can really pull it off.
Because I think these guys are just sitting back and going, okay.
Let's forget Ebola for a moment.
How much money are you going to give me?
What am I getting under the table?
We have limits on that stuff.
The carries of the world say, screw you, man.
My kid's going to get the money.
Joe Biden's kid's going to get the company in Ukraine that he's running.
They have limits.
We'll just bring our extractive unit, known as the Pentagon, a Department of Defense, and we'll just kill you.
No, that's why we like to give people generous loans.
Exactly.
You can skim from the loan.
That's your business.
No out-and-out bribes by us.
The Chinese do that.
Of course.
So where has Ebola hit the worst?
I would like to just...
How about Ebola map of Africa?
I haven't actually done the work here.
I think Cote d'Ivoire is still where most of it is.
I could be wrong.
Guinea.
Maybe it was Guinea.
One of the two.
Let me just see.
Here's the CDC. Guinea, you are correct, sir.
West Africa, Guinea.
What do they have in Guinea?
So Guinea, Liberia, Sierra Leone, and Nigeria.
So Nigeria, we know, have huge oil.
Big oil and lots of Chinese.
And Boko Haram.
Which, I guess we don't care about those girls anymore.
Sierra Leone also...
What happened to the girls?
No one cares.
I don't care about that.
What's in Liberia?
A woman.
Apparently a woman from Liberia.
There's a woman in Liberia.
Who runs the place?
No, this is a reference to a song from the...
I once was a lady from Liberia.
Was that what you meant?
Liberia.
So here's the no agenda search, ladies and gentlemen.
The guys over 50 will get that gag.
I'm clearly too young.
Well, you're not going to be for long.
Liberia Oil.
And then let's do China.
This is how you search.
NoCal.com.
TLC Africa.
Ah, okay.
Liberian Oil and Gas in Liberia.
Okay, do they have a big pot?
Is there anything new?
Keep your eye on those.
I would suspect, where else do we need to be?
Let's just keep it at that for now.
Let's keep it at those and see what happens with any oil rights or anything.
Our NoAgendaNewsNetwork.com guys, Barrett and WT, they'll be all over it.
They'll be posting hundreds of articles.
They seem to find stuff all over the place.
Whatever we talk about, they're always finding it.
So that is my analysis of the situation.
The coincidence is beyond belief.
And the Ebola, having this Fauci guy in there with some kind of patent is...
It's being misused, and we are, of course, being terrorized.
This weekend, New York City, who, as you know, had, oh, some guy came in, we thought he had Ebola, locked down the airport.
This weekend, though, we've got something else coming up.
It's a 5 o'clock wake-up call they hope is never real.
The largest of its kind, NYC Health Department Drill, simulating the response to a release of anthrax.
We want New Yorkers to know that in the event of an emergency, that we have plans in place, that there's no need to panic.
Dr.
Osiris-Farbo says 30 distribution sites for antibiotics would be set up citywide in eight hours.
NYPD playing a big role.
Deputy Chief for Counterterrorism, Salvatore DePace.
From my experience in counterterrorism, bio is probably the most unknown.
If it was an explosion, boom, you know what happens?
The bio is very, very concerning.
Yeah, you get that Ebola stuff all over you.
Yeah, boom.
Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.
And with that, I say thank you for your courage.
And in the morning to you, John C. In the morning to you, Adam Curry.
In the morning, all chefs at sea, boots on the ground, subs in the water, all the feet in the air, and all the dames and knights out there.
And in the morning to our artistes, we'd like to thank...
Oh, Nick the Rat was back.
The Rat is back.
With the album art...
The album art for episode 640.
And in the morning...
Oh, by the way, find all of the album art at noagendaartgenerator.com.
In the morning, to all of our human resources in the chat room, noagendastream.com and noagendachat.net are down.
So we're going to work on that after the show to get that back up.
In the meantime, I think these are kind of...
I like these two pages.
We have...
We have chat.noagendahosting.com and stream.noagendahosting.com.
Then we'll also have the integrated page.
The new stream is really kick-ass.
Everything's working well, except, of course, that little snafu with the page beyond our control, so we'll work on that.
And this is a program.
That is supported by the producers.
Many, many people email and help us out from all walks of life.
And I have some emails to read to you later to share.
We have to mention to people that this is the only way we can do this show.
All the analysis we do on all the deconstructions and all the things require some sort of commentary that is not acceptable by the mainstream media editing process.
For instance, I don't know why, but you certainly have not heard about the visa database outage, and when you do, it's brought into the context of a glitch.
Of a glitch.
There's that and then also the moaning and groaning about the attire of the African phonies that came over here.
There's nothing that would be acceptable by anybody in mainstream media.
They just won't let you do it.
I can assure you that you'd have a guy.
No, no, no, you can't say that.
You can't say that.
You can't say they kill gays.
You can't say any of that.
You can't say it.
It's just the way it is.
You can't say it.
It's all clamped down.
It was really this morning.
And if we had advertisers, we wouldn't be able to say it because the advertisers would gone to lagoo.
They would quit and we'd have no money.
And I was doing this morning with Miss Mickey.
Once you step out and go to that page, itm.im slash Africa.
Once you step out of the realm and objectively look at these crazy getup these guys are wearing, you know, to signify some importance with big sheets and sticks and.
Yeah, it's almost as bad as Petraeus.
Yeah, it's their version of it, which we also call out as Bogative, with a million medals and your Bakelite name tag.
Yeah, medals for being punctual.
Yeah, exactly.
The lords, dames, knights, slaves, and elites, please be upstanding for another donation from the Grand Duke von Housen.
In fact, we do have some donations, some people to thank some executive producers and associate executive producers, beginning with Sir Stephen Pelzmacher from Belgium and the Grand Duke of Belgium and France, $333.33.
He says, ITM, gentlemen, sorry for the slackness in contributions.
I've had very little time to spend with the show these past few weeks and lots of demands on both my time and cash flow.
I apologize for dropping the ball.
Hey, maybe we should go squeeze some of the shittisons, man, for cash.
And LGY karma for all donors, please.
And thanks for your courage and the incredible work you continue to do.
It's appreciated by everyone.
Well, thank you very much, Grand Duke Pelsmarkers, Baron Von Pelsmarkers, Grand Duke Sir Pelsmarkers.
And very happy to see you on the list.
But also thank you for all of the great articles you always send my way.
Which is great.
He's looking at the Dutch stuff, the Belgian stuff, and of course I can read that.
He has good inside tips on what would be known as Belgistan, where he lives now.
Thank you very much, sir.
You've got karma.
Yay!
James Bonchak in Plains, Pennsylvania, 24482.
Adam and John, I'm here wearing my shirt, junkinthetrunk-bucket.s3amazonnaz.com.
What is that?
There's a photo there.
We should be looking at it.
Oh, he's wearing, okay.
And here's the donation for the Dude Named Ben t-shirts.
I decided to say screw it and donate all the proceeds.
Aww.
Just the Dude Named Ben entrepreneur.
Yeah, the Dude Named Ben t-shirts, yes.
Yes, and did not donate all the proceeds, plus a double nickels on the dime, $189.72.
Plus the rest of it, which is the official due name, Ben donation, plus 5510, double nickels on the dime, equals 24482.
Keep doing what you do.
I used my twice-weekly dose.
If you could, I'd like to get Adam's live rendition of Gren Greenwald's Don't Waff.
Live rendition?
Oh, okay.
Followed by a Dr.
Kiki shut up and finished off with an oh my god, it's so amazing.
And a karma as well?
He doesn't say so, but yes.
Alright, so this is the now official number.
The number for the dude named Ben donation is what is it now?
Does he have a number for it?
18972?
Yeah.
For some reason?
Okay, here we go.
Dude named Ben.
Ah!
Bring me out the rob!
Shut up already!
It's science!
Oh my god!
That is amazing!
You've got karma.
I just noticed something.
What?
Dr.
Kiki and the Amazing Chick could be the same person.
Play this back-to-back again.
Shut up already!
Science!
That is amazing!
It's kind of the same cadence.
It's similar.
It's got something.
Maybe.
Edward Sheets in Brewerton, New York, 22222.
I do not have a note from Edward Sheets.
Let me see if there's something in the mailbox.
Let me check, too.
Is it a check, or is it a...
No, no, that's not a check.
I got the one good check that came in.
His name is Edward?
Spelled weird.
Search.
We have a notification of donation received.
His email is edsheets at me.
Oops, sorry.
It's alright.
It could be at me.org.
No one would know.
It's actually not what it is, but let's see.
No, it's not.
I don't have anything, so I don't know what's going on.
Okay, I'm going to try one more time.
Nope, nothing.
Thanks, Ed.
We're going to get an email that's really angry.
Is this the guy who's already angry?
I know, my name is Mary, and you missed my email.
We do have an email made good I wanted to read.
Steve Chipman.
Is it Steve?
Yes.
Yeah, this is the guy who was mad.
Oh, the guy was mad, right?
The guy was mad is...
Steve?
No, that was Tim Tillman.
No, it's not Tim Tillman.
Oh, all right.
Where's my Steve email?
There's tons of mad guys.
Okay, Steve Chapman, meanwhile, sent a check in and he sent a note.
I do have it.
Sometimes all it takes is a round of sustained belly laughter to convert one from a boner to a donor.
The commentary on NPR's WTF segment about Al-Qaeda's switch to sophisticated encryption in episode 640 was priceless.
I have to say, I actually listened back to that one again.
It was, for a comedy show, pretty good.
Yeah.
Yeah, we're doing okay on the comedy.
Unrehearsed, by the way, people.
Unscripted, unrehearsed.
You are witnessing a live performance.
Yes, which is why sometimes, once in a while, it doesn't happen a lot, but it does happen, we lose stuff.
And sometimes you'll sit there, and in Dutch we say, ten krond.
Teine krommend.
Teine krommend.
Which means your toes are curling, it's that bad.
Oh, okay.
Okay, onward.
Where was I? Oh yeah, anyway, he said, it redlined my no agenda value meter.
So, I could use a short, a short, a shot of bluebird-induced karma as I had a bad mountain bike crash in April, the early recovery time of which put a dent in the landing of my new customer engagements for my CRM consulting business.
As John knows, with the spectacular cost of living in the San Francisco Bay Area...
You need to keep the ball constantly rolling to put food on the table.
On a different topic, would Adam consider revealing which UAD2 plug-in or plug-ins he's using with the Apollo Twin as well as what his Mac DAW of choice is?
Yeah, I have to document this because I really want people to see how easy it is and I'll make a giblet.
I'm watching watermelon head carry.
But I will tell you right now very quickly, I'm using the API Vision Channel Strip for both John and myself.
That is the only plug-in we use.
We use the noise gate, the compressor limiter, and a little bit of the EQ. Very important.
Then I route that all through the total signal, the end-fed signal, if you will, through the Neve 88RS, which is why if you ever open up this show in an editing program like Audacity, it's flat.
It's just one big flat line.
There's almost no waveform.
But this is part of our sound.
It's part of what we do.
It's a very famous preamp, one of the most famous in the world.
And it has a filter that's supposed to sound like that?
No, it's a compressor limiter.
I mean, a compressor limiter filter that's a plug-in?
Yeah.
You don't have a Neve.
No, but this is what Universal Audio's business, they sell you a box, and then they continuously market all these, they have licensed the sound and the overall look and the name of all these very famous studio gear.
And they'll send you an email like, Hey, remember this great box you used to hook up your guitar to and it sounded like Eric Clapton?
We've got it!
And they have a picture.
It looks just like it and it sounds like it.
It's a small company, but I like what they're doing.
And then I use the Audio Rack Suite open source.
This is all, by the way, all on the Mac.
As the DAW, if you will.
But I will be happy to send you, when I finally get around to documenting it, I will include my settings for everything.
So you can go ahead and you can just recreate the settings.
Well, it's kind of cool if you get the settings.
Yeah, it is.
Well, you do do.
The settings are everything.
Yeah.
So that you'll be good to go.
Good to go.
To go where?
Anywhere good podcasts can go.
Okay, so it was Bernie Glynn who sent in a note.
He was an associate executive producer, and his thing got cut off, and then he got irked at us because we weren't responding to his email, and I sent back to him a note.
I generally don't open email that has a subject line of R.E., Yeah.
As in, you know, like spam does.
Yeah, think about it, people.
You need to use hashtags.
Don't use hashtags with John because that goes to spam.
Yes.
Use hashtags with me and put something useful in the subject line.
Yeah, like, no agenda important.
That's what I always tell people.
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So we already know that Bernie's a little one of those guys.
He probably likes Andrew Dice Clay from the sounds of this.
Dickery dickery duck.
However, the fantastic analysis you do time and time and time and time again, the fact that you made me laugh out loud whilst I continued to commute to work on the train, and the overwhelming guilt of not paying you is making life a living hell.
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Damn you both!
So that's Bernie from Blair Mount, New South Wales.
He's an Aussie.
Thanks for the tip on Missy Jubilee.
That's pretty cool.
Yeah, Missy Jubilee.
I guess he's dating her.
Not safe for work, kids.
Not sure if he's dating her, but I would think he'd like to.
I like what she's doing.
I'm going to put that in the show notes.
Anyway, we do have a show coming up on Sunday.
Is that it?
Are we done?
That's it?
Yeah, that's all we got.
We didn't get a lot, and it was a little short.
But on Sunday, hopefully we can make it up.
Dvorak.org slash NA, you can come in.
And yeah, we only have one executive producer, which is the Grand Duke.
Which is unusual.
Huh.
Quick plug for the DEFCON No Agenda Meetup.
Ramsey Cain hosting that.
Is DEFCON, isn't that coming up?
I don't know.
I asked Ramsey for a date of the meetup.
I'll probably be in Washington.
I'm going to Washington State.
Oh?
Well, it's our anniversary.
We always get together.
It's a concept.
Really, you always get together.
What is the date of your anniversary?
Oh, it's 888, right?
888.
We had a thing.
We had a special donation.
Everyone still wants to do it.
I can put it back in the newsletter.
I can take it around to Canada.
Canada.
Let me finish.
I'm going to forget this plug if I don't do it.
Well, I want to know when the date is.
There it is.
Ramsey Cain.
No Agenda Meetup.
Okay, read.
Go.
If you go to noagendacd.com, there's a link in the menu for DEFCON. And that's where all the information will be posted.
And on this page, it says everything except for the date.
Yeah, I sent him a note.
What's the date?
And he says, we're making arrangements with a concierge at Encore Las Vegas for a private room that will hold about 20 comfortably.
For further details, email me at noagendacd at gmail.com.
I did.
I want to know what the date is.
The date is right here.
I think it starts today, actually.
The meetup is today?
No, the meetup is not today, but the DEFCON 22, August 7th to 10th, Rio Hotel and Casino, Lost Wages, Nevada.
Lost Wages.
So that should be probably tomorrow.
Or Saturday.
Who knows?
We don't have a date.
I don't know.
I got no idea.
Ramsey, hook us up, bro.
We want to promote it.
We think it's a great idea.
Send pictures.
Well, I'm guessing it's going to be over by Sunday.
But I guess you could go to...
Or send him an email, which I just read his email address.
NoagendaCD at...
Was that what it was?
Yeah.
NoagendaCD at gmail.com.
And if you're in the Vegas area, I would have gone if I didn't have an anniversary.
NoagendaCD at gmail.com.
So you're leaving after the show today?
I'm leaving actually tomorrow morning.
Oh.
Well, that's nice.
How many years will it be?
26.
Oh.
Is there a surface attached to that?
Yeah, paperclip.
Really?
Yes, it's a paperclip anniversary.
Who comes up with this crap?
I don't know.
All right, please support us.
We will have a show on Sunday, and of course, I'll be looking forward to giving you the Fauci analysis of this patent, which is a lot of work, and I hope some of our doctoral producers will check in.
And we do need your support for every single show, since we have no ads.
It's the only way we can make it work.
And in addition to that, we always can use some help of propagation to do formula.
Our formula is this.
We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
Order!
Order!
in the morning in the morning in the morning in the morning in the morning in the morning All right, in the morning.
You know what bothers me?
That clip that we're adding to this thing, that concept that there's this, you know, that it's all bullcrap.
You were in California during the Proposition 19 thing, weren't you?
When Proposition 19 came up to legalize marijuana in California?
I think you were in California.
Yeah, you had to be.
You had to be in San Francisco or Los Angeles.
I think Los Angeles, yeah.
I didn't really pay that much attention to it.
You don't vote.
Okay, well...
No, I vote, but...
I don't understand why it didn't pass, but it didn't pass.
Oh, of course I would say, yes.
And it was nutty.
Yeah, well, there's no promotion for it, and everyone was stoned.
That's why I always saw it.
Hey, man, I wanted to vote, but then I got hungry.
It's gonna be okay.
So nobody voted for it.
It lost, and now we, you know, California is...
By the way, it turns out that California, according to at least Uber facts, which could be bogus, California was the first people to make marijuana illegal in the whole country.
That wouldn't surprise me.
Anyway, but let's get back to this.
What bothers me the most is this kind of rewriting of history.
Now, I have this clip that some expert was on discussing marijuana in Colorado and what they're discovering and all the rest.
It was brought up about why California didn't pass Proposition 19.
And this was dropped on the host.
Nobody asked questions.
If I was the host, I would have said, I never heard this.
California is still the wild, wild west.
We are working right now with different political groups and super PACs to get our points across.
But the reason that Prop 19 failed, which is what you had referenced earlier, is because it was heavily favoring just Oakland to become the new Amsterdam of California.
And a lot of growers didn't like that.
Oh, I remember that, yeah.
I remember they had the superstore and everything.
Yeah, I remember this.
But I don't think that was in the legislation.
It wasn't in the legislation.
Oakland?
Yeah, they had that big, the Ikea of pot or whatever they called it.
But she says it didn't pass because it was favoring Oakland.
Yeah, she's full of shit.
She's totally full of shit.
Sorry, I don't mean to sound crass or anything, but yeah, and who is this woman?
Oh, it was somebody, I think it was on Fox or one of these shows.
You know, again, I get the envelopes downstairs.
I don't care.
The point is that this attempt to rewrite history is ongoing.
Let's just make it up as we go along.
Nobody in the news media is going to question any of it.
And instead of saying, like I said, if I was the guy, I'd have gone, I never heard this.
Where did you get that information?
I want to document.
I do it at the table, by the way, at dinner.
Because J.C.'s always coming up with stuff like this.
Demand documentation for dinner table discussion.
This is not good for your marriage, by the way.
It's okay with your kid, but...
No, it's fine.
We all do it.
Everybody in the family does it.
We all question the nonsense.
I love you, honey.
Happy anniversary.
Show me some documentation you love me!
Where's the paperwork?
Oh, okay.
See, there you go.
You're exaggerating.
It's just like this woman did about Prop 19.
That's not what we're talking about.
I think it's a very valid point.
How can I know for sure that you love me?
Well, that's what women do in general.
I don't think it's got anything to do with the dinner table conversation.
Wow.
Only women?
Wow.
All right.
I think men are more secure, generally speaking.
Not me.
Well, yeah.
Well, a lot of people would say that about you.
I'm totally insecure.
Yeah.
I know.
That's why you produce the show.
So that's why you're a perfectionist.
Well, I also know when to stop.
But a lot of this has to do with Tourette's, even though you won't admit it.
Interestingly enough, ever since the Secretary of Defense, which I don't mean Hegel, I mean the soccer player, our USA team soccer player who has Tourette's, hero of the Ticks, quick response to Tourette's.
I have been noticing two things that I have with my Tourette's, besides the ticks that move all over the place.
One, if a glass falls or is about to tip, I can catch that sucker so fast.
Yeah, well, I could do that.
I'm like Rain Man.
No, okay.
Well, maybe you have Tourette's.
Maybe.
But, you know, stuff that falls, I can catch it halfway to the ground.
If someone else's glass falls, it's very strange.
I have this lightning-fast reaction for that stuff.
Well, I'm thinking there's a lot of baseball players to hit up 95-mile-an-hour fastball.
You can't be normal.
Possibly.
And I noticed that a lot of you watch baseball and you watch the batters, you watch a lot of them have ticks up there.
Their outward arm is slapping, slapping, slapping down, their fingers are wiggling around, the bat, they can't keep the bat still.
Now some guys go up there and they have the bat is still, they're steady, they look like a rock.
There used to be this Garvey.
It used to be this player for the Dodgers, and he was like a robot.
They called him Mr.
Robot.
He would stand up there stoic.
But most of these guys are jerking around, their heads bobbling, their arms snapping back and forth.
And now at the plate, the robot is ready to go!
And so I was thinking, for example, the one at the Oakland A's that's the most nervous up there and seems to look like a Tourette's guy is Coco Crisp.
His fingers are wiggling.
He just can't sit still.
And it's all tick-like, though.
It's not the normal just...
It's like ticks.
It's like a lot of ticks.
So maybe you're right.
Maybe you're onto something.
Maybe the reaction time is just a little better.
Also, typically starting clips and stuff based on your cue.
I mean, there are a lot of things.
I have some kind of reactive response that I believe is a superpower.
That could be training.
No, it's a superpower.
And by the way, we could never have video on this show.
Besides the fact we think it would ruin the show.
I think it would ruin the show.
Totally.
But I tick the whole time during the show.
Sometimes it's so bad, I'm squeezing my eyes closed when I'm talking.
If I'm trying to make a point.
Now I think, wait a minute.
Let's rethink this video thing.
I can't have anyone near me.
If I know they're looking, I can't do my ticks.
It's like, go away.
It's funny that this comes up now, but it's true.
I'm just ticking away.
And not much worse than I do...
It's funny you sound as slick as it comes.
Slick.
You don't sound like you're ticking, but you're not doing anything.
No.
But talking about it, I do have a series of clips that bring up a couple of...
Can I tell you the other superpower I have that I've noticed?
Yes, please.
Numbers and data such as addresses.
You can tell me the code to a padlock or something once, or a phone number or an address.
Even if I just hear it, you're not even telling me someone is telling someone else, I can recite that correctly for sometimes months or years later.
You would have made a great spy.
Funny you say that.
But that's for another show.
Alright, here we go.
I've got a clip.
I was leading up to something, but I forgot.
Play your clip.
I'm going to run out of material if I... I was coming out of what people say and how words matter, and I received a number of emails from people about the clip we played of Obama where he talked about we tortured some folks.
And there were two things that were said in there that I think I was so happy...
To just catch him on some crazy crap he was saying that I didn't hear what he was really saying, and thank goodness we have some producers who caught it and called me on it.
We did a whole lot of things that were right, but we tortured some folks.
So that's the clip that I'm talking about.
Now listen to what he says now.
And, you know, it's important for us not to feel too sanctimonious in retrospect about the tough job that those folks had.
Okay, so we were talking about sanctimonious, but did you hear what he actually said?
Don't be too sanctimonious.
Yeah, no, he implied there could be sanctimony.
I'm wondering, as I listen to that clip, since I did make a clip of him stammering, if any of those are tells...
Of a lie?
Yeah, or a lie, or...
Yeah, it would be a lie.
What else would it be?
Yeah.
I'm just wondering if we've never made a correlation between his...
and the next comment.
Hmm, okay.
We just assume he's a guy stammering, stuttering constantly when he doesn't have his teleprompter.
Right.
When he's doing stuff on the fly.
Well, so not too sanctimonious is actually much worse than just saying don't be sanctimonious.
And sanctimonious is, you know, like, hey, you know, we're superior.
We can do that.
I read the same email.
I didn't take it quite so...
I thought it was too casual to be important as a words matter topic.
Yeah, don't be too sanctimonious.
Yeah, okay, maybe so you can be a little sanctimonious is what the implication is, which is, okay, maybe be a little sanctimonious.
So what?
So what?
We can't be sanctimonious at all about torturing people.
You can't torture people.
That's the problem.
You can't torture people.
That's not our values.
So if you can't torture, then you shouldn't be sanctimonious.
Not even a little bit.
He says, too sanctimonious.
So we can be sanctimonious, but you can't go neener, neener, neener?
Where does it end?
I just didn't think it was that important.
But the next part I thought was good.
Yeah.
And that's the reason why, after I took office, one of the first things I did was to ban some of the extraordinary interrogation techniques.
Some.
Yeah.
I missed that one.
We should have both caught that.
Some.
I didn't ban the waterboarding.
What did he ban then?
Well, some.
Who knows?
Something we don't know about.
We're not in the loop on who, some, what.
And then I did have another one more words matter just because someone said you ever see Pawn Stars?
Stupid reality show.
I don't watch reality shows.
No, me neither.
But someone sent me this clip because the word weird has come up in conversation.
I've caught myself twice.
So now I'm catching myself.
So I'm on the road to recovery.
Very good.
Once you start catching yourself, then you're on the upswing.
Yes.
And the word to substitute if you're just in a bind and you can't think of something is odd.
Odd works very well.
And here is this strange.
This came out in Pawn Stars and someone sent a clip to me.
He's a little odd today, isn't he?
Odder than normal.
I think the word you're looking for is weird.
He's odd.
Weird.
He's weird if you don't love him.
We love Chumlee.
He's like family, so he's odd.
Well, I love Chumlee, but Chumlee is weird.
Interesting.
Great clip.
That's a very highly qualified clip.
Nice, huh?
Yeah, very good.
This is when people start helping the production of the show.
It's very nice to have this.
A little F Russia stuff.
Well, I want to go on to, before we do Russia, because I want to go to Russia, I want to do a little observational analysis here.
Good.
I love it.
About the Hillary brand.
Brand Hillary.
So, Brand Hillary is actually what it's called, and there was a thing at this idiotic operation called Netroots.
Yes, I played a clip from this.
Yes, you did.
It was about a week ago.
We played Elizabeth Warren, the famous...
She was there.
We believe in science.
Right, she was there, and she's part of this group.
So they had a meeting of a bunch of the social media types.
And I've discovered a couple of interesting things.
I'm trying to get some information.
Is this YouTubers?
Is it just people who are...
Facebookers, big ones, the big boys, the Twitters, the people that run Ready for Hillary.
She was there.
The Ready for Hillary gal was there.
In fact, let's play her first.
She is ready for Hillary.
This would be the Hillary brand, ready for Hillary rep, the Facebook girl, the hearing.
Okay.
Well, I don't even know which is which, but I think it's the ready for Hillary clip.
And here's why you should support them financially.
Okay, stop, stop, stop.
It's not that one.
I want you to start over because I do have to set this up a little bit now that I think about it.
She is a very annoying blonde that talks like a valley girl.
Oh, gee.
She talks like a valley girl, and she talks in a lot of Silicon Valley speak.
And see if you can catch a few of the little bullcrap commentaries that she makes in the process of discussing.
Discussing!
Can we set this up a little bit more and explain what Ready for Hillary is?
Oh, I'm sorry that we don't know what that is.
No, some people might not.
Ready for Hillary, I know, I agree 100%.
Ready for Hillary is a pact that was set up about a political action committee.
Set up maybe six months to a year ago, and I believe that Hillary is somehow behind it, even though it's illegal if she is.
And it's been sending out emails and bumper stickers, and when you see Ready for Hillary bumper stickers is from this group, and they've been collecting names and addresses and $5 and $3 donations.
They've got tons of money, and they're essentially leveraging, as they call it, the Hillary brand.
Brand Hill.
Brand Hill.
And it's just gotten completely out of control.
They're huge.
And this is one of the women running the thing.
And here's why you should support them financially.
So we plan on mobilizing our network, not just financially, but we'll also be driving folks to engage on the ground, whether it's volunteering or turning out to kind of organize themselves in their own community.
We think it's a really great value add.
We have folks who have come up and said that they are really for Hillary.
That's awesome.
Some of these folks are specifically interested in her, so they might not be out there engaged in the 2014 process.
So here's an opportunity for us to take a group of people and really direct them into the midterm election.
So I think we are looking forward to watching our members hit the ground across the country and really...
Amplify the work that we anticipate Hillary is going to do as we head into the last 90 days or so of the election.
I'm shooting her!
So I think that that's our presentation.
Our presentation!
I'm talking...
She's an up-talker, but I started listening more carefully to the cadences in some of these.
There was this very identifiable stuff going on.
Now, this next woman, which is the clip...
Now, I have a question about you, because you mentioned this off the cuff.
So the Political Action Committee cannot have any involvement with the candidate herself.
That is illegal by the rules...
By the rules.
By the rules.
Legally.
Federal election committee.
This up-talking millennial.
If she and Hillary are friends on Facebook, would that be considered illegal?
I have no idea.
Okay.
Well, it's something to be looked at.
Because the Facebook woman was there.
Apparently some executive from Facebook, another one of these Valley Girl names.
Oh, yeah.
She's there with her jargon and all the rest of it.
And then I picked up on something she does, and then I listened to person after person.
And a lot of people at Netroots had this anomalous way of speaking that I will epitomize by the last clip.
Also, I would just add...
I think it's really interesting.
In politics and in this space, there's very few organizations that have access to this kind of brand.
This very much is a movement.
In my work, when I look at or think about trends and look at where people on Facebook are having the most success and marketers on Facebook, it's ultimately the really, really big brands that are approaching Facebook from this idea of constant brand management and how they're going to consistently add value so that at the end of the day, you can make those asks and you can continue to keep people engaged.
I think Ready for Hillary is really unique in the sense that you guys have an There is an element of consistent, on the page, reinforcement of that brand and display and promotion of that brand, as well as asking people to take actions and driving conversions around that brand, but more so than most other super packs.
I can't really think of another one that has this much of a real brand strategy that's particularly on Facebook.
Oh, man.
Okay.
Now, before you do anything else, I would love, and I can't believe I didn't clip this.
I don't know why.
We're going to play it from the YouTube.
This is the native advertising clip.
I know you saw it.
Oh yeah, I wanted to clip this too, I'm sorry.
I don't know why we didn't do this.
We can do it as a segment, because there's lots to be said.
You're talking about the New York Times woman.
Yeah, with the native accent.
Do you want to do it now, or do you want to finish up and then we'll go into it?
Well, let me finish with a little thesis here.
Good, please do.
So I'm starting to notice a certain pattern.
Now this is epitomized by the next and last clip, which is the hearing a trend clip, which actually says part two on there.
And it's the use of um.
Oh, um.
Ready?
Now, we've had um people before, and they tend to be hummers.
Um, you know what I mean?
This guy uses three things in tandem.
He uses um, uh...
And so...
No.
And you know.
Oh, you know.
Which I find is very weird, but that's a lower middle class kind of thing.
It's also found in the liberal community.
They will say you know.
But to come out and say, I find you know weird, that's messing with my brain.
You said weird.
You said weird, yeah.
I said weird.
Messing with my brain.
Hello, it's a 1970 call and we want our stop word back, you know.
Organization.
What sort of different messages are you guys using in social and fundraising?
Social.
Social.
That maybe would be different than what other people would have seen before?
I mean, one of the things that's really unique about this organization is that, you know...
I don't know.
It would be presumptuous to think that Ready for Hillary could dictate what Hillary Clinton's message is going to be.
This is not a campaign.
It's focused on building a grassroots army and building grassroots infrastructure.
For every time that Hillary goes out and gives a speech about recent things that have happened in voter suppression, we're really echoing that, making sure that our email list knows the key points that she's hit on and giving people opportunities to really join in the efforts that she's promoting.
Really just using her as a force of personality.
And so a lot of the imagery that you see on the Facebook page and on the email list and other social network channels are things that we've done a lot of testing on and seen that people really respond to because she is an inspiring figure.
You should add right.
And by the way, he says she's an inspiring figure.
What was the next thing he said?
Right?
Um.
I'm telling you.
He should have added a right in there to everything.
He never says right, or he never uses so.
It's um, ah, you know.
It's bad, it's bad, it's bad.
Astonishing to me to listen to this guy.
But I think this is a very common Hillary cadence.
The um, you know, um, um.
Especially the ums.
So if you hear people saying um a lot, because I don't hear it.
Here it is.
If people are saying um a lot, they're hanging out with her.
Somebody's hanging out with somebody.
I think it's the milieu itself.
Right.
And that's why I think that woman that was the executive editor from the New York Times who was a hummer and said, um, a lot.
I think it's all part of the same group.
It's a milieu.
So just keep an eye out for if you hear somebody saying, um, um, um, they are Hillary people.
Just a little observation.
You can take it or leave it.
No, I like it.
I like it.
What we should play now is Meredith Levine, I think her name is, and there's some confusion out there about native advertising.
A lot of people think product placement is native advertising.
That is not what it is.
No, no, no, no.
And even John Oliver's otherwise pretty good piece on native advertising really put a bit too much of the product placement in there, which is just not what it is.
No.
And I believe in this clip, native advertising is explained very well, and also in how incredibly lame it is, and that this is the future of news will be stories about Products and services that advertisers deliver, and it will be all positive about them.
And there already is...
It's already done.
But I thought this was a good clip.
Also because this woman, when she's on stage at the IAB, the interactive advertising...
Bureau?
I think.
I think it's Bureau.
Bureau?
That may have been at AdTech.
I'm not sure where she was.
No, it's IAB. Okay, the Internet.
Oh, yeah, Interactive Advertising Bureau.
Right.
When she's talking and she has these high leather boots on, she keeps squatting down.
Did you notice that?
No, I didn't.
When she makes a point, she goes...
She squats a little bit.
Very disturbing.
Very disturbing.
The whole thing was not good.
Meredith, I'm so excited.
You were an early forger into the whole native world at Forbes.
A forger.
And you've now gone to the venerable institution of the New York Times to bring your trade to their nice publication.
And you know, I had the good fortune of being able to find some mock-up...
What the New York Times is going to look like.
Here it is, folks, under Meredith.
And yes, first of all, you'll notice in tabloid format, but what struck me was this fascinating Tom Friedman article on how Pepsi was going to help solve peace in the Middle East.
This was joke, obviously.
I love that question.
Terry, let me start by vigorously refuting the notion that native advertising has to erode consumer trust or compromise the wall that exists between editorial and advertising.
Let me vigorously dispute that for a moment.
Turn it up a little bit.
When you have to say that, you're already on thin ice.
I would argue that good native advertising respects the independence and the sanctity of journalism, and at the same time, really kind of puts the onus on a reader to decide, do I want to engage with a marketer's content?
Do you hear yourself, lady?
Squat woman?
And I'm going to say that in a different way, which is to say good native advertising is just not meant to be trickery.
It's meant to be public.
Yes, it is.
It's storytelling tools.
Storytelling tools.
We're sharing the storytelling tools.
And so I think the real question that you mean to be asking me is, how can a publisher who is sharing their storytelling toolset with a marketer maintain consumer trust and maybe even extend it?
Well, I'm going to ask you a question.
What is a storytelling tool?
Can I buy this at the Home Depot?
A storytelling tool technically would be the computer, the word processor.
Yeah.
Am I missing something?
Well, a storytelling tool would be the format, I think, in her parlance.
Or the process?
It would be the formula.
It would be how you present the story of the advertiser in a way that's palatable.
Or in a way that you can trick the reader into thinking it's objective, but it's not objective in the least.
So it's a propagandistic methodology.
That's a tool, yes.
Propaganda methodology.
Thank you.
The first way that they have to do that is by holding the marketers who tell stories on their platforms to the same standards that consumers hold them to.
And those trust standards, I think, are very simply based on three things.
Tell the truth, be transparent about who's telling it, and add value to the conversation.
So I want to break those three things down very quickly.
Add value to the conversation, John.
What does that mean, lady?
What does truth mean in the context of editorial?
I think simply it means getting to the consumer with the best possible information available on a topic, and ideally doing so with experts on the ground very close to the- On the ground?
Experts on the ground.
Get off the ground!
...
is a hugely read New York Times story done a couple of months ago, a year after Benghazi, That was meant to bring kind of clarity to a very complex topic that had a lot of confusion around it.
That's the way we do truth.
So what does that mean for a marketer?
How does a marketer do truth?
I am not suggesting.
John, how do you do truth?
This whole thing is the most...
To me, it's an indication that the war is lost.
Essentially, you've turned over the editorial department.
And the guy from Time Magazine was worse when he says, I don't understand what this church and state thing ever was about.
Makes no sense.
Makes no sense to me.
And if the advertisers will pay, you know, this is what's funny about the New York Times.
Let's do just a stop for a minute and discuss some of the things they've done.
The New York Times established the ethics of journalism, just on a de facto basis.
Not everybody goes along with it, but most people do, and they have all these little rules and regulations to keep journalists in line.
I need to ask questions.
Is this codified?
Yes, it is.
The New York Times has an ethics guideline.
Rule followers.
Most publications do this.
The Wall Street Journal has one.
The New York Times has one.
And they send it to the writers if you start working for them.
Can you give me an example?
Or is that too drawn?
An example of what?
One of the rules?
The rules.
You cannot take any gratuity or gift that's valued more than $25.
And that would include t-shirts.
So you could, as a New York Times reporter, you can take a free t-shirt if you're at an event, but you can't take a free hoodie if its value is $35.
You just can't take it.
It's illegal.
It's ethically bad.
Even though, to me, it's bullcrap.
I think, who cares what you take?
It's a piece of garment.
Okay.
The same things with meals.
You have to...
This is what they're worried about?
Yeah.
Now, the reason I'm discussing this at this point is because this is in light of what we're hearing from this woman.
You have to really wonder what kind of slave training we're discussing here in terms of the journalists when they are running blatant...
I'm advertising as editorial in the same publication that has all these rules.
So the rules are obviously bull crap.
The one that always gets me in, I'm always debating this rule with Times people and everybody else in between.
And it has to do with junkets.
Ah, yes, the junket, of course.
The junket has always been a bone of contention with me.
The New York Times has this policy that if you go on a junket, in other words, if Samsung, which is a typical one, wants to fly you to Korea to show off their new semiconductor plant, you have to pay for it.
You cannot let Samsung buy you an airline ticket.
You cannot let Samsung buy you a...
Hotel room?
You can't buy anything if you're a legitimate ethical journalist.
Now this rule, this sort of rule, only applies, it was established by the New York Times and really only applies to American journalists because in Europe, very few publications will pay you We're good to
go.
Journalists at the Old Grey Lady are very perturbed about this.
No, that's not what happens.
This is what the trick is, is that the journalists at the Old Grey Lady, the Old Grey Lady will pick up the tab and send the journalists there, and journalists writing for the Detroit Free Press or other important publications that are higher end, they don't have the money to do it, so the journalist stays home, the bloggers go for free.
So the only people covering the event is the New York Times and the bloggers, which means that the Detroit Free Press gets no coverage.
They can't cover it because they can't afford to send the guy.
So the whole thing is a scam to keep New York Times kind of on the scoop level of things where everybody else can't afford it.
Okay, that's an interesting take.
It's a game.
It's a gambit.
Now, the gambit's been destroyed by the bloggers because these bloggers will flock to these things.
And how come we're never invited?
And they'll write it up really well.
They're totally...
I get invited once in a while.
It's too much work.
I don't.
Anyway, well...
You could if you were on the right mailing list.
Here's the one thing I know about John.
He has been invited...
I won't mention any brand names.
He's been invited to places to drive vehicles, and he just wrote a shitty article about him.
You do that.
I like that.
You just say, oh, it's crap.
Well, I tell people, I do a thing, I tell other writers who argue on my side of this debate, that generally speaking, the dumb bloggers will go there and then they'll fall over themselves.
I'm looking at you, CeCe Chapman.
Yeah.
As a, oh, this is the greatest thing I've ever done, because they feel that they got a gift of a trip to Korea or someplace because they wouldn't have gone otherwise and probably never get to Korea in their lives.
Well, that may or may not be true, but they feel an obligation, which is what the companies want you to feel, an obligation, and then write nice things about them.
I always lecture them that you're never going to get invited back.
If you write good things, they figure, ah, our job is done.
We got him to write the good thing.
Now you put him on the C-list.
We don't need to invite him back.
Get some new guys.
So he's done.
He's never going to go back.
And if you write a bad thing, you're not going to get invited back no matter what you do.
You might as well be honest.
And live out.
Like it is.
What happened?
If you liked whatever you saw, fine.
If you didn't, you didn't.
You have to be that way.
But this idea that this scam about what the New York Times has tried to pull off has always been seen by me as a scam to keep them as an exclusive purveyor of information, which has been destroyed by the bloggers.
And now...
They've come up with this other thing.
They were adopting native advertising, which just confirms, in my opinion, confirms that this New York Times operation has always or never been on the up and up.
It's always been slightly corrupt and all these ethical things that they've come up with are just to keep these guys in tow as a bogus facade.
There is no ethics to a New York Times or any other newspaper that adopts native advertising as some sort of a good thing, a way to make money.
It just proves I was right.
Proves it.
John C. Dvorak's pet peeve of the day.
Very nice.
Very nice.
Let's get back to the last few minutes here of the squat girl.
She has leather pants on, too, by the way.
So it accentuates when she squats when she's making a point.
She's standing on stage here.
With this, that marketers should become investigative journalists, but what I am suggesting is that marketers, many of them, have deep domain expertise very close to the center of where a story is happening.
How does that work for KitKat?
What deep domain?
Can they write about cats?
Or chocolate?
Or Campbell's soup?
Or anything.
A good example of this from one of our early paid post partners.
Paid post partners.
Nice one.
Triple P. It's a 3P. Paid post partners.
You plop on the peas.
Who chose to tell their own story on The New York Times this year during CES when the big talk was wearables.
Intel basically said the real conversation here is how to fashion companies and technology companies come together.
And they did that against the backdrop.
Oh, and...
Very good.
Very excellent story.
Fashion and technology coming together.
Yes.
Well, very good.
I haven't seen it yet, but that's how truth to a marketer, I think, means authentic expertise.
The next issue is transparency.
By that, I mean something very, very simple, and that is unambiguous disclosure.
We meant to be unambiguous in naming the New York Times native platform paid post.
No room for confusion.
Also, no room for confusion in Paid for and posted by fill-in-the-blank client Dell in this case.
So we think that really matters.
We think unambiguous disclosure.
How about starting the article off by actually saying in the first opening words, this is a paid advertisement and the advertiser is Dell and they are writing this and submitting it without an editorial process to the New York Times.
I'd be impressed.
But no, paid post and little letters in the left uphand corner, whatever it is.
That's not transparency, squat woman.
Well, let me tell you another little thing here.
I love it when I get you all riled up about this.
There used to be a rule that was in all publications that you could do, you could submit, you could be Dell, and you could submit an article about your company and pay for it as an advertisement and run it as an advertisement.
And it would appear to be editorial.
The rule, generally speaking, with all publications until just recently with this change, was you could not.
You had to put the paid advertising...
I think somewhere on the page at the top, let's say it was an article, and you could not use the typefaces, the same typeface that was used in the rest of the publication.
You could not use the same headline type font.
Everything had to look different enough that no one would mistake it for the regular editorial.
That is out the window.
And that's where the corruption lies.
That is out the window.
And that's where the corruption lies in the New York Times and Forbes and all the rest of them that are doing this.
It's all corrupt.
Sorry.
So I'm reading, just as an example here, I'm reading, take the journey with Team USA. There's nice storytelling tools.
For over 30 years, United has supported Team USA athletes throughout their Olympic journey.
Now, it says very small at the top here, paid for and posted by United.
But you're not really seeing that.
You're seeing maps and things are scrolling.
It's really pretty.
And then it's a commercial.
It's a paid post by United Airlines.
And it's completely done with their storytelling tools, with the same look, the same vibe as the rest of the publication.
But yeah, it's out the window.
I've got another minute.
I like this girl.
I would buy her a beer if she would squat a little more.
It's very funny.
You should watch it again.
It's cool.
Labeling, it's also about who are the storytellers.
And we think for publishers who don't want to erode trust, what you have to do is keep your news organization entirely separate from what you do for a marketer.
So Terry, no Tom Friedman writing for Pepsi, but rather setting up a separate content organization that has the skills of your news organization.
Same skills.
Interesting.
So what we're hearing now is this is how the newspaper, the Times, will transform.
They're setting up a shadow organization with the same storytelling tools, and eventually people will just flow over to that side of the house, and then there will be very few guys left who are making no money.
And of course you can make big bank writing for them.
I'm sure...
Oh, no, you'll make a lot more money writing for Coca-Cola, bullcrap articles, as opposed to writing for the New York Times, which pays well, doesn't pay great.
But they pay well, but they can't compete with these advertisers.
These guys pay the big money.
Beautiful.
I mean, when a page of advertising costs $50,000, I mean, these guys have money to burn.
That's just beautiful.
Very nice.
And you get to work with this girl.
That's kind of a bonus.
Come up to your desk and start squatting away while she's talking to you.
It's cool.
I'm sorry, truth, not trust.
Truth, I'm sorry.
Last one of these I think is the most important, and that is value.
If a brand is going to publish on a venerable site like the Times or BuzzFeed or Forbes, any of the other brands.
If I were the publisher of the New York Times, she would be fired right now.
Did you just say BuzzFeed in the same sentence as the New York Times?
Yeah, it's a fireable offense.
Big time.
Native players out there, they really have to do something that informs the consumer, that entertains them, that tells them something that they don't know, and that's get beyond narrative, get beyond pitch.
Get beyond narrative, get beyond pitch.
What world are we living in?
Great example of this launch at the end of the week last week.
A paid post on the Times from Goldman Sachs.
That was a simple, I'm going to say kind of beautiful, really interesting visual explanation of a complex talk Topic, the capital markets, which I won't show you the whole thing, but what are the capital markets?
How big are they?
How do they touch the world?
Who are the different actors within the capital markets?
So this is taking the great New York Times infographic tool set And applying it to a place where a marketer has domain expertise.
Wait a minute.
Goldman Sachs doesn't market...
What?
So you just let Goldman Sachs explain how the world works, which is, according to Goldman Sachs, may not be the same as everybody else.
You gave them their infographic tools.
Tool set.
And you thought it was great?
Where's the objectivity in that?
No, this is gone.
It's all over.
Point well taken.
You know, people, whenever you see someone doing something that you think is actually providing value to your information mix, support them.
I support lots of people who are helping me with their value-for-value proposition.
There's not a lot of it everywhere.
It's not everywhere, but if the New York Times, this is what they're doing, It's over.
We may not get everything right, but at least we have the freedom to analyze and not have to trick you into being entertained and to engage with some kind of story of boots on the ground.
What does that even mean?
It's crazy talk.
Yeah, it's sad.
I'm going to show my support by donating to no agenda.
This is in the UK. And putting himself on the mailing list and the GCHQ watch list all in one smart move.
Wesley Clark of the Wesley Clark Five.
Now, seven.
Stanley, North Carolina version of Wesley Clark.
One, two, three, four, five.
He needs an F cancer.
He needs an F cancer.
We'll do it at the end.
We'll do it at the end.
Jobs and F cancer for everybody.
Adam Duke in Leicestershire in the UK. We have a birthday call-out for him coming up.
$108.
Brian Warden Downs, Illinois.
He's coming out of his false teeth budget.
After John Capslock Dvorak punched them all out with an Ebola stunner.
Capslock.
And he wants a job, Carmen.
We got a job card at the end.
I just want to say, I don't remember his name, but we'd gone shopping in Houston, which really means Mickey tricked me into going to buy a shirt, because I never wanted to, you know...
You needed a shirt?
I need to, you know, my H&M stuff is falling apart.
It's made, you know, it's made wherever.
There's H&M in Austin.
Yeah, but she was tricking me.
I know there's H&M and all.
She was tricking me.
We went to Express, which is kind of a level up from...
L'Express!
Whatever.
And I'm sitting there at a fountain.
Some guy says, are you Adam Curz?
In the morning!
Yay!
And of course I forgot his name.
He said, I'm a producer and I'm buying a tie at Banana Republic because I got a job interview.
So I'll give him Job Karma as well.
Of course I forgot his name.
I feel stupid.
You forgot his name, but you can remember numbers, you said.
Yes, only numbers.
Matthew Matthew Helly in Gatineau, Quebec.
$100.33.
Christine Zachman in Lost Wages, Nevada.
You skip over the fact that he felt he had to donate because of the 97% consensus extrapolation.
That was excellent, by the way.
I want to get together with you and get all those things, because I think it's article-worthy to an extreme.
I want to write it up, and I want to give you the byline.
Really?
Or a co-byline, because I'll write it.
You can take credit.
It'll actually be a co-byline, or Adam Curry contributed to this.
No, no, no.
I think that's chicken shit to do that.
It's John C. DeVorek and Adam Curry.
Wow.
The dynamic duo.
Yeah, why not?
You need some of those things.
Superpower.
Sir Mike...
I got you on that.
Hey, I got it.
I got it.
Superpower!
I have superpowers.
Super Tourette's powers.
Sir Mike Schumacher, Baronet Sir Mike.
Can we get it peer-reviewed, our paper?
In Kelsey, yeah, it'll be peer-reviewed.
Kelseyville, California, 6969.
Joseph Costello in Pittston, Pennsylvania.
I'm sorry, did you do Christine Zachman?
Because I think you might have skipped her.
Yeah, I said Christine Zachman, SACA 7.
I'm sorry, I'll shut up.
I'll shut up now.
No, you're all giddy now.
Joseph Costello in Pittston, Pennsylvania.
Adam Curry, published author.
George Vanderhorst.
Sir George, for you, 6969.
Richard Hedenberg in Salmon, Sweden, 6960.
And he's got a birthday.
Sir Tim Tillman, Baronet Tim Tillman.
And Prince George, Virginia, 6660.
And we're doing the contest again on Saturday.
The contest?
Oh, we are?
Sunday.
I'm going to shift that email out on Saturday.
So be aware of the email.
Maurice Tate in Vallejo, California, 6660.
David Hahn in Sydney, New South Wales, 6660.
These are all 6660.
There's not that many.
David Helm, Fargo, North Dakota, Station X, LLC in Little Rock, Arkansas.
Ite...
Zekeli.
Zekeli?
Zekeli.
Ite Zekeli.
From Tel Aviv.
Tel Aviv.
And finally, Colin Sloman in...
Sir Grebulon is who that is.
Sir Grebulon.
Oh, Grebulon.
Where's Grebulon?
It's Sir Grebulon.
Oh, okay.
Well, that's why we don't get it normally.
Colin Sloman in London.
London.
5510 from Eric Young in Salt Lake City and Catherine Lee in Malaysia.
Oh, Malaysia.
They don't have too many Malaysians.
Email sent to John.
I hope he gets it.
I guess you got it.
I don't know that I did, but I'll look and see if there's something that we need to read on the Sunday show.
Okay.
Sir Kevin Payne in Richmond, Virginia, $50, $69.
These are all $50 donors, and we'll just run through them for your listening pleasure as I move the spreadsheet down a little bit.
You can always tell when you're doing that.
Paul Girdo in Barong, New South Wales.
Steve Winslow in Bristol, UK. Eric Dutro in Flint, Michigan.
A very interesting place.
Matthew Stevens, North Richland Hills, Texas.
Christopher Walker in Parts Unknown.
Sonia Mateo in Laval, Quebec.
Matthew Januszewski in Chicago, Illinois.
Jason Druzio in Chatsford, Pennsylvania.
Sir Mark Tanner in Whittier, California.
Good old Mark.
And finally, Christopher Davidson in Bella Vista, Arkansas.
I do want to say Sonia Mateo said hello.
Hello from Montreal, Canada.
My husband Dominique is a huge fan and listens to you all the time.
We celebrated our first wedding anniversary on August 3rd, and I thought a great gift would be to donate to you guys.
Thank you for such a great show.
Happy anniversary, Dom.
Love, Sonia.
Hey, Dominique, she's a keeper.
This one.
Yep.
I would say that's probably true.
She is a keeper.
Very good.
Very, very good.
Thank you, everybody.
So that concludes our producers for the show tonight, 641.
We will be doing a show on Sunday, contest included.
Mailing goes out on Saturday.
Dvorak.org slash NA for people who don't want to wait.
And will this be the same numerology or new numerology?
Well, here's the deal.
Since I can't, you know, because people could just randomly donate 6660.
Right.
You have to do it in the newsletter with a special number now.
I do.
I don't need a special number.
What I need is a special donation code from PayPal.
So when they donate with that new code, it goes into a different box.
This has failure written all over it.
No!
This is going to be in the top three.
We'll get a special mention.
Please, please, please.
Just do a number.
It's not going to end.
All right, fine.
You mean to add a penny to it or something like that?
Do whatever you want.
Okay.
How about this?
I'll take your advice.
No, I would actually like you to try it out.
I'd like to know if it works.
You're right.
It probably won't work.
It'll be too much of a mess.
I won't be able to spot the ones.
And then we get angry emails.
I have documentation that I was the first.
A quick little special mention here from Sir D.H. Slammer.
My daughter, Simona, is feeling left out of the No Agenda family experience since Dad is a Knight, Mom is on her way to Damehood, and Andrew got a Freddy the Firewall call-out.
Ah!
Maybe the Guardian's reality can impart some wisdom for a young lady.
Nine years going on 17.
Ooh.
Well, we both have daughters.
John, do we have any salient advice?
I don't know.
Do we have any salient advice for a nine-year-old?
Stay away from boys.
Don't get a tattoo.
Wait until you're 17 before you get an ear piercing.
Really?
What's wrong with the ear piercing?
I think it gets encouraging younger and younger until you end up with these babies with ear piercings.
It's kind of creepy.
You're not fully developed yet.
You don't want to put holes in yourself until you've grown up.
What is 17?
Well, 17 is an arbitrary age.
16, you can make it 16.
I don't care.
Here's what I say.
Not 9.
I'm going to give advice to dad and daughter.
Okay?
It's transportation advice.
It's a very important one.
Number one, daughter.
Do not get on any vehicle that has two wheels or less.
Stay away from it.
You say, no, I promise my dad I do not get on vehicles with two wheels or less.
Two, dad.
Tell your daughter, if you ever need a ride home for whatever reason, you're drunk, whatever, no questions asked.
Call me, promise, no questions asked.
I'll pick you up, take you home, no questions asked.
That is the deal.
So you're advising people not to get on a Segway.
Is that what you're talking about?
Absolutely.
Get off of that thing.
Don't get on a unicycle, but...
I would also say you should take your daughter to high-end restaurants at an early age.
Get them used to what's good.
Yeah, that way they won't get cheaped out by some boyfriend when they start dating later.
Good point.
Hey, what is this McDonald's crap?
Te quiero Taco Bell.
Alright, for everybody who needs some jobs, karma, regular karma, and F-cancer karma, here it comes.
Stop talking!
Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
Let's vote for jobs!
All right.
Lovely.
And we have no nightings today, sadly.
However, we do want to remind everybody, contest coming up.
Subscribe to the newsletter.
It's always in the show notes.
You can find those at 641.noagendanotes.com.
And go help us with the donations.
Dvorak.org slash N-A-M. And we have a couple of birthday call-outs.
Jacob Duhlman turns 30 today.
Adam Duke celebrates today as well.
And Richard Hedenberg turns 32 tomorrow.
Happy birthday from your friends here at the best podcast in the universe!
Happy birthday, yeah!
Hey, hey, hey, hey!
Alright, I gotta do a little F-Russia stuff.
What are we, a ton of time?
Yeah, we gotta hurry up.
We got what?
We're almost at two and a half.
Abby Martin was on the Joe Rogan experience.
Oh yeah, she was bragging about she was going to be on Joe Rogan.
It was going to be the greatest thing of her life.
She was on Twitter just going on and on about it.
Did you listen?
No.
And the Joe Rogan experience is really a perfect companion, really, if you want to, you know, if you have enough time to listen to everything.
Because he has people on, he interviews them, he really gets interesting, not always, but he can get pretty deep with people.
Yeah, he's a good interviewer.
Yeah, I agree.
I think he has...
I think the greatest interview...
I think one of the...
Larry King's a good interviewer, too, but I still think the greatest interviewer in the world is Howard Stern.
Oh, total agreement.
I mean, he gets people to say stuff they should not say.
He's a little one-sided, but I'm a huge fan, and I oftentimes find myself emulating some of the early Howard Stern.
It's in there.
I can't help it.
But Abby Martin was on Joe Rogan Experience, and I found this to be fascinating because there's two things that pop out.
Well, three, actually.
One, foul mouth.
Ooh!
You thought I was bad.
Oh, Abby Martin?
Yeah.
She's got a foul mouth?
Yeah.
Now, I'll say I've always found...
Why am I not surprised?
I find her to be a phony.
She's just a phony in my eyes.
Well, she's...
No, let me finish my thing first.
Okay, go.
Just listen.
She talks a big game.
Her show is produced by, I think, poorly written.
I don't think she writes it herself.
She's very bad at reading.
She over-dramatizes.
The whole opening leader of her in a helicopter, it's three minutes too long.
And she's breaking the set.
I hate the title.
I don't hate it, but it's dumb, breaking the set.
What are you breaking?
What does that mean?
I'm breaking anything.
And then she does these dramatic walks past the camera.
No, it's not working.
It seems over-dramatized and phony.
And she's a horrible interviewer.
Oh, the worst.
Do you want to add to something?
No, I'm in total agreement with all your observations.
I find her to be annoying.
She's not as polished as she should be, having worked as much as she has on this show, and I guess elsewhere.
And she...
She's kind of a knee-jerk liberal.
And she has a huge ego, as we're about to find out.
Oh.
And her ego problem is with what was her best friend, her homie, her BFF... Was the chickie who quit on air.
They were tight.
Liz Wall?
They were friends.
They were tight.
Now, you're going to hear some information here, which you heard in an analysis from the No Agenda show immediately, namely that Liz Wall was working with the FBI, that's the Foreign Policy Institute, that's where the Kagans are, and they were tweeting her, oh, something big's happening.
So they were all in on that.
So this is no news to us, but...
Abby's really foul-mouthed and angry and her ego is quite ugly.
If anyone's watched House of Cards, that's exactly how this shit actually operates in D.C. That's exactly how this shit operates in D.C. What do you think, John?
Just how this shit operates in D.C.? Do you hear this?
If anyone's watched House of Cards, that's exactly how this shit actually operates in D.C. Like, I made this statement, and then this girl, Liz Wall, which was my colleague and actually one of my best friends in D.C., saw all the attention that I was getting, and she was just like a newsreader, very generic, never heard her voice in any opinions.
Two days after this happened, I was getting all this international press, and then so she resigns live on air.
She stole my thunder, bitch!
What international press is she talking about?
What is she talking about?
Al Jazeera?
Well, that's the whole point.
So first she says...
What was the attention?
How many...
Okay, just play it.
Let's stop interrupting and let's listen to it and then analyze.
I'll roll it back a little bit because I love how she says, some girl, but she used to be my best friend.
Like a newsreader.
Very generic.
Never heard her voice in any opinions.
Two days after this happened, I was getting all this international press and then so she resigns live on air and is like, I can't work her.
Oh, it's all about her.
This is a horrible network, and I'm for the truth, and I'm pro-American and all this shit.
And then she got picked up and lauded all this shit, and then I found out that there was actually this think tank called the Foreign Policy Initiative.
Let's just stop here for a moment, because she's not going to come back to this.
This is really telling about this woman.
She stole my...
I was getting all the international press, but she had to trump me by quitting on air.
Stupid newsreader.
She has no opinions.
She's a newsreader.
And she took away this woman who used to be my best friend.
This woman?
Wow.
This is good.
Yeah.
It's pathetic.
Rogan must be just having fun with this.
Props to Rogan.
Good way to go to get this out of Abbey.
Great work.
This is where it gets fucking weird.
Full of neoconservatives.
It's the same people who started the Iraq War.
Bill Kristol, you know, all these motherfuckers who basically force us into Iraq.
They're like the most militant neocon faction of the entire D.C. establishment.
They've resurrected into a new think tank called the Foreign Policy Initiative.
And I found out that Liz was like essentially being used by these people.
These people probably reached out to her and they just said, like, look, we're going to like help you get this media tour behind you because their whole platform, if you look at their mission statement, they want a new Cold War with Russia.
That's what the FBI is all about.
And then you saw Liz working with these dudes.
Like, she was just this fucking idiot pawn who was basically used by all these dudes in this neocon think tank to spread their agenda.
Dudes.
Dudes!
It's not just dudes.
How about that, huh?
Wow.
She was used by all of these dudes.
Kagan!
Which would be nice if you had mentioned that, if you actually talked about some of the actual politics behind it.
But it's all about her and her not getting the press, because she had an opinion and she was a real journalist.
And she's not just some newsreader.
Wow.
That was terrible.
It was vitriolic.
That was really nasty.
Yeah, that shows you how she is.
Do not go on and be like that, people.
Anyone out there with a little media training, you just heard an example of how not to do it.
Yeah, you go on there, you just say, I'm sorry that she left.
You don't speak ill of the dead.
And you totally brought attention to her.
I couldn't even remember her name.
Yeah.
Thanks for bringing it up.
Unbelievable.
Yeah.
I knew you'd like that.
Oh, it's frightening.
And I like that Joe Rogan did this.
It gives me a reason to play something from his show.
I like it a lot.
Well, it tells you that you can't get stuff over the regular media.
Oh, no.
Adam's gonna read his email on the No Agenda show.
In the morning!
Wasn't sure how all of this connects or if it does, but I found it pretty odd.
I travel about once a month for work, and to kill time on the plane, sometimes I'll buy a video on iTunes to watch.
This time I bought Jack Ryan's Shadow Recruit.
Movie released in 2014.
In the movie, about 10 to 15 minutes in, and what sets off the plot is the explanation of the U.S. installing a Turkish pipeline that will defy Russia's dominance in Europe.
In the movie, Russia calls it an economic act of war.
This is pretty good.
There's some big stars in this movie, too.
Whenever Hollywood is connected to events, then you know it's a really big setup.
The timing is great.
Good work on that, guys.
There'll be some propaganda in there.
What was it?
Did our listener or producer tell us?
At Glance appears to be foreshadowing what is currently taking place.
There's some code in there.
We'll have to watch it, I guess, if we want to get the code.
There probably is.
Here's something I learned.
This is kind of funny.
Our king in the Netherlands, formerly known as Prince Pils, the beer prince, now king who has Queen Magzima from Argentina, smoking hot.
What a reward that guy gets.
Yeah.
So they had bought a house in Mozambique, and that was a big problem.
It was not politically correct, so they had to sell that.
So they bought a huge piece of land and a harbor.
They're building their own harbor, which is now also controversy in Greece.
Because this is where all the elites are.
And they're buying up entire what used to be public beaches, islands.
And they built this huge house.
And I don't think it's big news yet, but it will be.
His neighbor...
Any ideas?
What could be the worst neighbor?
Who's the worst neighbor?
If you're the king of the kingdom of the Netherlands, and you have this place in Greece, which is already, you know, you bought up, and that's already annoying.
The bushes?
No.
Putin!
Putin?
Putin has a house next door.
I would have thought a rum poi would be coming for you.
No, Putin!
Putin!
Putin's got a place in Greece and he's next to this guy?
Yeah.
Wow.
The neighbor.
Why not?
Go ahead.
Very good.
We're trying to make Russia look really crazy now.
I think this may be a meme.
The tank biathlon.
I don't know if it's really true, but news reports about bizarre new sport invented by Russian military.
It's just like a biathlon, but with tanks.
These guys are so crazy, man.
They play games with tanks.
Yeah, they're really, really trying to discredit a lot.
Meanwhile, there is some actual news.
Armenia, now there's fighting going on in Armenia.
It's Azerbaijan and Armenia.
If you look at the map, which everyone should do from time to time, and you'll see that Armenia, it's kind of an annoying spot for the pipelines coming from Azerbaijan, Baku, this is where all the U.S. companies are, Hillary, the Eurovision Song Contest.
And I'm pretty sure, does Russia have a big hand in Armenia?
Is that how it works?
Not that I know of.
It's possible.
I thought the Armenians, they're always pissed off about being recognized for genocide.
They were killed.
Yeah, the Turks had a genocidal moment and killed a lot of Armenians, millions, and then pushed them into their little hole where they are now.
And the Armenians have been irked about this because nobody seems to want to acknowledge that it happened.
And the Turks have never been admonished.
I thought they admitted it.
I thought they admitted it this year.
From time to time someone comes out and says something.
Yeah, we did that.
That happened.
Yeah, that happened.
What they need is they need the Kardashians to say something about it.
Them people will care.
They're Armenians.
Yeah.
So they should do that.
And then, let's see, what do we have on Russia?
I had something...
Putin did a $20 billion oil deal with Iran, which is floating under the radar as news, which of course would break all the sanctions.
So you're seeing the lines being drawn very, very clearly.
They're now discussing...
What's his name?
The Foreign Minister...
I can't even pronounce his name, which is a problem.
Sergei Glazyev.
And he went on TV, did a roundtable conversation.
I think it's the assistant forum.
He's kind of like an undersecretary of foreign affairs.
Right.
And this video is subtitled.
It's in the show notes.
And in this, he's essentially saying, look, America is controlling the puppet regime in Kiev.
They've got, you know, he says about 50,000 neo-Nazis now all over the place.
There's genocide in eastern Ukraine.
The whole idea is to bring Russia down, and we have kind of little time to move on this, particularly with the moves being made in NATO.
And Breedlove just came out and said, oh, NATO's ready for Ukrainian defense because they have the friendly agreement with the EU and by extension a little bit with NATO.
And I haven't verified independently that the translation is correct, but if you're listening, you hear a lot of the things that are in the subtitles.
It sounds like he's talking about it.
I have to get that verified.
But I have no reason to believe it's not true what he's saying.
He probably is just as crazy as the Kagan's.
But there's some pretty harsh talk about what we essentially have deconstructed as well.
This is Newland, who was married to Kagan.
The whole idea is to push Russia back, to screw them.
Now Russia wants a no-fly zone.
I love this.
Just like Libya.
So they will not allow any international flights over Russia.
It was a pretty big area to not be allowed to fly over.
And that makes a big deal.
And according to our guy at the Dutch Consulate Business Support Office there in the Netherlands, he's a complete crackpot, but he's on board with our analysis, on board with everything that's happening.
And he says, this Russia thing, that is really, really serious.
And this is not going to end.
And you know the Dutch guys, they always know that war is coming.
Remember we had an email from someone and an ambassador said, oh my god, it's going to be war with Russia.
And look at where we are now.
That was a couple months ago.
Do you remember that?
Yeah, no, they're hypersensitive to it for some reason.
So it truly is happening.
And I find it...
Yeah, thank you, Kagans.
Thank you, John Kerry.
Thank you, Obama, for doing nothing.
Well, he's just totally...
Yeah, he's doing nothing.
It's very strange how he's just going to ride this out.
It's kind of like he's like, ah, screw it.
We've got a year and a half.
We do this.
We've got the house in Palm Springs.
We've got all kinds of payoffs.
Just shut up, Michelle.
Shut up!
Brought to you by Clan Kagan.
Then Israel-Palestine.
I cannot go on the show without talking about this for a moment, because I have kind of a theory brewing.
Can I mention one thing before you do that?
Please, of course.
I was listening to some talk radio, and somebody pointed out, in fact, I have a bunch of clips for maybe Sunday, of the guy who wrote the book, From David to Goliath, how Israel has been repositioned by the world's media, how they will have these they won't show pictures of the kids in the school that were shot up oh yes
they show gaza kids gaza kids gaza kids and they show nothing from eastern ukraine where the same kind of children and women bloodbath has taken place that none there's nothing we see nothing uh so there's just all targeting israel in terms of the negative publicity There's nothing that targets, obviously, why would we, the Kiev government for being, you know, brutal bastard Nazis.
But anyway, it pointed that out.
I thought it was an interesting observation because I haven't seen anything either.
You see, once in a while on RT, you might see something.
Anyway, go on.
I am thinking that there's more to this.
The reason why it's so...
Because this could end very simply, very easily, very quickly.
There's so many...
Why does this keep going on and coming up?
And I believe it has to do with a combination of messaging we've been receiving.
Because this...
I do think it's connected.
And this is the whole...
Caliphate, ISIS, jihadi Disneyland, they're coming to America, they're going to blow us up.
But more importantly, the thousands of jihadis who are now coming home, they have European passports, and they're in Europe, in EU countries.
And we sometimes forget or just gloss over the incredible influx of immigrants into the EU who are Muslim.
And, of course, I first had experience with this in the Netherlands.
Amsterdam is no longer safe for homosexuals.
You get beat up.
You can't hold hands anymore.
It's really, really disappointing what has happened there.
But this has now been going on for 10, 15, almost 20 years.
Belgium, they call it Belgistan for a reason.
Scandinavia, also in Germany.
France, Paris, entire streets are shut down when it's time to pray five times a day.
What's the city in southern France?
Lyon?
Lyon is completely Islamified.
And with what I'm seeing here, with the continuous ongoing battle, and the way it's positioned on television, which is very interesting, knowing that so much of the...
I know this is a horrible thing to say, and please, Anti-Defamation League and all this shit, I've gotten in trouble for saying this before...
But yeah, of course we have a lot of Jews in American media, and all I hear is complaining about how Israel is being put in a negative light.
And I'm thinking, it almost seems like it's on purpose at this point.
And the purpose, what it feels like to me, from an American-Israeli standpoint, is to cause crap in Europe.
And it's working.
Well, I'm not going to argue with that theory, because I was thinking something similar, because there's too much of it.
And again, I point out, nobody shows Ukrainian kids getting blown up, nobody shows the school kids getting blown up, but they incessantly show Gaza, they incessantly show it, and then they have the NBC guys pulled out.
And then you have all these guys carping and moaning and groaning.
And then, coincidentally, there's all these not anti-Israeli riots in Europe, anti-Jew riots.
And they point this out.
It's about, let's gas them, let's finish the job, and all the stuff that they do.
Old ladies being beat up because they have an Israeli flag.
Showing you the ugly underbelly, which may be something they wanted to expose.
Dutch Chief Rabbi Binyamin Jakob has been attacked five times, his house, in the Netherlands.
He's a Jewish community leader.
And this is the Netherlands where we hid Jews in basements during the Second World War.
And now I'm seeing articles.
ISIS spread makes Europe a tinderbox.
So imagine you've got...
To be honest about it, as if it had anything to do with ISIS. No, of course not.
This ISIS thing, I'm convinced is an American scam.
Oh, completely.
Completely.
The whole thing is bogative.
And we know ISIS. I think even Snowden, although I can't trace this back to Snowden himself, there's reports that Snowden said, here it is, Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, the so-called caliph, the head of ISIL, according to sources reputed to originate from Edward Snowden, an actor named Elliot Shimon, a Mossad-trained operative, is actually al-Baghdadi.
I love this.
They got the guy from Central Casting, which I would believe...
Simon Elliott or Elliott Shimon.
That's why he doesn't want to have his picture taken.
Let's look at that part objectively.
How many of these guys ever don't want to have their pictures taken?
They're always in front and center.
They're always front and center.
They're always, look, we did it.
These radicals are the groups that like to brag, oh, we blew the place up.
And then the guy likes to be in front of a camera.
This guy's camera shy.
Why?
Why is he camera shy?
What's he worried about?
I'll read the article.
It's the same information everywhere.
But again, I don't hear Edward Snowden saying it.
I doubt he did.
But I like the...
It's a good trick.
Elliot Shimon, a.k.a.
al-Baghdadi, was born of two Jewish parents and is a Mossad agent, which is easy to say.
We offer three translations here from the Caliph al-Baghdadi, proving that he's a full Mossad agent.
Our real name is Simon Elliott.
The so-called Elliott was recruited by the Israeli Mossad and was trained in espionage and psychological warfare against Arab and Islamic societies.
This information was attributed to Edward Snowden and published by newspapers and other websites.
I know.
It's shitty, but I do like the idea.
I like the idea.
Whether or not he's even Mossad, I'd be more inclined to think he's an American.
But they're talented.
The Mossad's talented.
They could pull this off.
So look at what you just said.
And we've been noticing this, of course.
Dead children, dead children, dead children.
Nowhere else do we see dead children in any story.
We don't see any dead Israeli soldiers.
Nothing.
This is...
Pure propaganda.
It makes no sense to not show horrible images of dead children in every other instance.
Can't even listen to the 9-11 tapes of Newtown because it's so disturbing.
They don't even disclaim dead children anymore on CNN. They don't even say, oh, this could be disturbing.
They don't even say that anymore.
So this has to be some form of propaganda meant to create strife against Israel.
And it's not happening here in the United States.
Yeah, we change our Twitter icon, whatever.
But in Europe, there are, I sent a video, had no voiceover, of Muslim youth attacking police cars in Paris.
And the cops are like, they're barely getting away with their lives.
Yeah.
So it seems like in a It's definitely working in terms of you want to create a lot of Muslim hate.
They've definitely fallen for it.
So who's radicalizing who?
People?
We'll find out at the end of the day.
But I'm in agreement.
This is something very suspicious about this because it comes up out of the blue.
We see no, it's not comparative.
There's like the dead children are only seen in one arena.
The rest of it's all cover your eyes.
You're right.
It's exactly the way they would put it.
And now we're seeing these riots in Europe, which are, you know, I would say if I'm on the side of the Israelis trying to prove a point, I think I'm being very successful at proving a point that people are not paying attention to it.
Look what's happening.
These guys are building up, and you yourself talk about this, but you noticed it.
They're building up dangerous numbers in Europe.
And watch how easy they are to set off.
This is a dangerous situation.
We're proving it.
Nobody's saying we're proving it, but they are proving it.
And now what are you going to do?
Well, what do you think the solution?
So if this is a threat to show, I don't even think it's a threat.
I think they want it to happen.
Just have crap happen in Europe.
I think it's to have crap happen in Europe to bring to the fore the problem that you identified in Holland, which is that you can't be the free country or the free city of Amsterdam.
Two gays can't even hold hands without fear of getting beat up.
Let alone three gays.
There you go.
Whatever the case, this is bringing attention to a problem.
It's bringing a light Lighting up the problem, bringing attention to the problem, and it's doing a very good job of it.
And of course, the Israelis have to eat crap for being these butchers, but in fact, you know, they have an argument, we're defending ourselves.
And which reminds me, you know, this defending themselves thing, this whole thing, I said this a long time ago, and I'm still wondering about it.
Play the clip, Iron Dome, is it bullcrap?
Yeah, yeah.
Remember we talked about Iron Dome when they said it.
Oh, I'm with you on this.
Then President Obama signs a $225 million emergency spending bill to enhance Israel's Iron Dome defense system.
But does Iron Dome actually work?
I would not spend money on an interceptor that has near zero chance of intercepting an artillery rocket.
The interceptor probably costs well in excess of $100,000 per interceptor, and it's maybe achieving a 5% rate, maybe, could be lower, against rockets that maybe cost $1,000 each or $500 each.
What's with the Dave Koss jazz music?
You know, this is democracy now trying to bring up their game.
And they're tasteless.
You can just take a look at Amy Goodman and tell.
It's a tasteless run operation, and they think there's jazz music.
Let's put a little, what's it called?
Kenny G. No, let's put...
What's it called?
A floor?
What's the term for it?
A track?
A music background.
A bed.
A bed.
Let's put a bed behind her.
And what are we going to use?
Oh, let's use some jazz instead of, you know, what you would use on ESPN that actually is attractive.
But besides that, I wonder about this myself because this whole thing may be theater.
I am so with you, John.
I'm so with you.
We've got the app that goes off, which is really just a message board where people yell, I hate Jews, I hate Muslims, you know, the Red Alert app or whatever.
So what?
The app went off.
That's proof?
No.
That's no proof.
I see, oh, Iron Dome!
A rocket goes up, you see an explosion.
But you didn't, at night, you didn't see the other thing come up.
I'm sure stuff's falling down.
I'm sure.
But I'm going to be in agreement with you.
This whole thing feels to me, my bullshit detector is going off, this is some kind of outrageous theater.
And seriously, clearly they don't give a crap.
They could just get rid of this whole problem so quickly.
It could be done quickly.
I really don't know what the truth is.
You cannot believe anything that's being said.
And also, if you have any alternative opinion, you get shouted down.
It's very annoying.
That's happening in mainstream media, too.
Ah, you man, you Israel hater!
It just feels completely off.
It's so off.
I cannot understand the messaging Israel evil and show dead Palestinian children.
That messaging just makes no sense.
Because that's the only messaging we're getting.
Yeah, I know.
It's very straight up.
And then we do get to see the riots.
Yes.
And we'll keep our eye on it.
There's a couple of stories in the show notes of different riots going on.
I think Victoria Nuland said it, and she meant it.
She meant it, man.
We don't give a shit about you.
We're going to screw you.
Yeah, we let the Israelis play this out.
We gave them 200 million bucks here.
Buy some more of these things.
Shoot them off.
$100,000 a pop?
Holy crap!
Nice, huh?
Yeah, and that's all Raytheon.
It's basically a debit card to Raytheon.
Same as a crappy Patriot from years ago.
Didn't do anything.
I have a couple of just funny clips, kind of interesting to play at the end here.
Okay.
This is...
Now we know that we had that tweet bot that was tracking and retweeting any edits made to Wikipedia that came from Congress or anywhere on Capitol Hill.
Essentially government changing Wikipedia pages.
Oh, before...
Okay.
I was just thinking maybe I should throw a clip in before we get completely off the topic.
You mean we have tech news?
Oh, well, there's tech news.
Well, hold on a second.
Do we want to do tech news?
Well, we might as well.
I do have some tech news.
Oh, good.
Is there a new phone out?
Play the clip.
iPhone users, you're going to mark this one on your calendar.
Apple reportedly planning to hold a media event on Tuesday, September 9th.
Many are expecting that is the date that the company will unveil its new iPhone 6.
The speculation is for two different sizes of iPhones.
Woo!
Big phone!
Big phone, little phone!
Mark it down!
Tuesday the 9th of September!
Phone, phone, phone!
That was on the Slave Training Today show, by the way, which I've decided that the Today show and those morning shows are all slave training.
I have documentation for this.
No, I wanted to talk about this.
I just wanted to get this out of the way since we're talking about Putin and all the bull crap that's going on.
Putin!
I have a lovely Putin shout.
Hold on.
Please wait.
This is little girl Luna, two years old.
Putin!
Yep, yeah, kids love our show.
They love the Putin thing.
Yeah, they love the Putin.
This story's been going on and on and on, and it's just the Russian hacker story.
There's nothing, there's no, there's not one concrete piece of heaven.
This is just a...
Don't look over here.
Nothing to see here.
Ooh, look at that.
Ready for it?
Hit it.
Taking a look at the headlines, it could be the biggest security breach ever.
Russian hackers reportedly have stolen 1.2 billion usernames and passwords and thefts affecting more than 400,000 websites.
The New York Times is not identifying any of the websites that were broken into.
Hackers have also collected about 500 million email addresses.
Okay, they won't identify one site?
Oh, that would be horrible because, you know, because they have no proof.
They've got no proof.
There's no story here.
This is a bogus story.
I totally agree.
And everybody's playing it up.
Well, it's time for cyber.
You know, everyone's jumping in.
By the way, Steck did a lot of work on trying to figure out Kaiser Alexander's claims of his patents and everything.
He can't find any.
He's a patenter.
It's total bullcrap.
So this IronNet cybersecurity has eight investors who own the company.
Total capital invests at $845.
There's also no confirmation of this million dollars a month.
Then really, what Kaiser Alexander is doing is, if I retired from the army as a brain surgeon, wouldn't it be okay for me to go into private practice and make money doing brain surgery?
I'm a cyber guy.
Can't I go to work and do cyber stuff?
Then his firm is developing as many as 10 patents.
This is a sales job, and he sucks at it.
Yeah, he's not like your buddy, what's his name, Cherville?
Chernobyl or Chertoff?
Chertoff.
No, he's doing a crap job.
No, Chertoff's a genius.
He's a marketing genius.
Alexander is a moron.
Apparently.
He's trying to play it like patents.
He has no patents, nothing filed, not even a provisional that we can find.
Okay.
And he's defending this.
It's just a sales job and it's sad and he's shitty at it.
Okay.
Why is it Star Trek guy?
What do you expect?
Yeah.
I have more tech news.
Oh, no.
We have a new meme.
Tech up.
Tech up?
Yes, this is the Verizon slogan.
Tech up for school with the latest, most innovative smartphones.
But now it's a verb.
Tech up.
Tech up.
Let me see.
I'm not going to play that.
I think you had something to finish the show with.
Yeah, well, I have a couple clips.
So here's the Wikipedia edits made by computers and users of these computers on Capitol Hill, Capitol Hill by Congress.
And some of these pages, because of the blatant abuse, have now been put on hold.
No edits for three weeks.
In the penalty box you go.
And Wikipedia is, man, just look at my wiki page.
And I encourage everybody to mess it up.
Adam Curry sees himself as, what does it say there?
Bicurious.
However, he's considering heteroflexibility.
Who puts that in there on the wiki page?
Some joker.
The New York Post says Wikipedia is blocking members of the House from making edits on the website.
The online encyclopedia issued a 10-day ban.
Wikipedia says disruptive editing is going too far.
This month, someone revised the biography of former Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld.
It said he was a, quote, alien lizard who eats Mexican babies.
I don't think that's true.
No, it's not.
She doesn't think it's true, but she doesn't know for sure.
I would like that on my wiki page, please.
I would like to say I eat Mexican babies.
That would be my favorite.
And this story, I love this story.
I wish there was a video of it.
I love it because this woman has annoyed me ever since she kind of came onto the scene in the Middle East.
Arwa Damon, who works for CNN, She's kind of cute, if you Google her, A-R-W-A-D-A-M-O-N. Her beat has been Iraq, and apparently something's wrong with Arwa.
Now, she was on assignment, and apparently she hadn't eaten much, but she had a few drinks, and so she became unruly.
While she became unruly, she allegedly bit two individuals who had filed the lawsuit against her.
Now, according to the lawsuit that has been filed in the New York State Supreme Court, Damon has a, quote, history of becoming intoxicated and abusive.
And just to give you a better sense of what the plaintiffs are claiming, Charles Simons and Tracy Lamar, EMTs who were working for a private contractor, alleged in a suit that they were providing assistance to an intoxicated Damon when she bit and threatened them while saying that she was, quote, a major reporter for CNN. Yeah.
I can call Brawl anytime I want.
She was biting them both pretty furiously.
She has good teeth.
Eventually, they subdued her.
I can just imagine this chick drunk.
Hey, want me to blow ya?
We need a jingle for her.
A drunk jingle.
I have to pay attention now if she's drunk on the air.
Oh, I don't think so.
I think this story...
There's something else behind this story.
I'm not sure what.
Well...
If you look her up on Google Images, they have the different little sub-things you can look at.
You know, boyfriend, husband, Vogue.
I guess she was in Vogue magazine.
And then reptilian.
She shows up as a reptilian.
Yeah, there is a theory that she's a shapeshifter.
Well, if you look at enough pictures of her, see where that comes from.
Whenever she's on camera, the video glitches a lot.
I'm using the word glitches.
Yeah, you use the word glitches.
Yeah, but a video glitch is, that's exactly what it is.
It's like a blip, a blurb, a disturbance.
Yeah, it's because that's what, yeah.
And they say that's because she's a shapeshifter.
I'm down with that.
You okay?
Yeah, me too.
I just like the idea that...
No, there's a bunch of them looking at this now.
I think I'm going to puke!
Well, that's because I think lizards can't drink.
That's the key.
There he goes.
Where did you go?
No, I'm here.
I was just contemplating.
Oh, I'm going to puke!
I know, Brolf!
Do you know who I am?
That's what Brolf means.
That's Ralph.
I just love the idea.
And then I would just say, as finalizing tech news, actually, I forgot to do that.
I have ordered a couple things from the Ebays, which I never do.
Okay.
I have ordered a 101 project kit with book and wires, and a TRS-80 Model 100 with acoustic phone coupling modem cups.
What?
Why?
Because Radio Shack is about to go out of business.
Oh, and you think it's a collectible?
It is for me.
They have 4,000 stores and only $62 million in cash left.
And the creditors won't even give them enough money to shut down more stores.
I know, they have a problem.
I don't know why somebody doesn't bail them out.
Well, for what?
I mean, they've completely ruined everything.
No, they've got real estate.
Their book value is like 75 cents and the stock is 60 cents.
I mean, come on.
This is an opportunity.
Well, the question is, with all of the downsizing of real estate, would you buy it all in one go?
Well, you'd have to.
Those are all good storefronts.
Many of those are well-located.
They're established.
Yeah, they're next to other...
It's cheap.
It's cheap.
They get the land early.
It's not like they bought the stuff during the run-up.
But this is no longer a play.
Retail outlets is...
You keep an eye on this thing.
I think it's something to watch.
Well, if...
This would be the strategy.
If someone wants to get it real cheap, just wait until they're in receivership and then grab it.
No, that can happen.
That's also a possibility.
Anyway, okay.
Anything else?
No, I'm just looking at pictures of this lizard woman.
She does have a lot of looks.
She has interesting looks.
I kind of like her.
Now that I know that she's a sauce bunny.
Yeah, finally you can find someone that you can out-drink.
Yeah.
Yeah, with my two-drink minimum, maximum, that's about it.
Two drinks and in the bag.
Yeah, it's completely...
Oh, she has a husband.
Oh, who's her husband and what is he?
I don't know.
If you click on Arwa Damon husband in the list, there's not one picture of her husband.
She's still more pictures of her.
Excuse me, but I'm an ethical journalist.
I only report the news I manufacture.
Ugh.
Ugh.
I want me to just blow you.
I'm here in Iraq.
This place sucks.
It's like a desert.
And Rolf is in Israel on the beach.
Fucker.
I can just see her being really, really funny drunk.
But not the biting stuff.
Biting.
That's not so nice.
That's part of our biting coverage.
So remind me that I have a really funny email to read about you.
About me?
Yeah.
I don't want to do it.
We're done for today.
I don't want to do it.
It's way over time.
Why did we go so long?
What are we doing?
Just because you, the producer, can't stop talking.
Well, I'm a major journalist.
Do you know who I am?
We should have a major journalist.
What was that guy's name?
His name was Major.
Oh, Major.
Major.
That guy.
What a great name.
He's just called Major.
Yeah, Major was his name.
Forget his last name.
I've got a few things to talk about on Sunday.
Remember the newsletter with the contest, everybody.
It's a-coming!
Big contest on Saturday.
We know how much you love it.
Keep an eye out for that.
And hopefully we...
And get video of Arwa sauced on the air for me, will you?
You know what?
I'm sure she's one of those teetotallers that doesn't drink except at night.
If she's a biter, she can't be on the air drunk.
It's very hard to get away with that.
Coming to you from FEMA Region 6 here in the capital of the Drone Star Stadium.
In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
And from northern Silicon Valley, where I can pronounce some word, I forgot what it was.
I'm John C. Dvorak.
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In the morning.
Satellites and other monitoring systems.
And systems.
Special secret satellite systems.
Moon bases.
Caliphate!
Thank you, Joe Biden, and thank you for taking the time to listen.