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	Ahmet, swallow the key.
	Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak.
	It's Sunday, August 3rd, 2014.
	It's time for your Gitmo Nation media assassination episode 640.
	This is no agenda.
	Narrowly avoiding quarantine here at the South Austin Safe House in FEMA Region 6 in the capital of the drone star state.
	In the morning, everybody.
	I'm Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley, where it's also in the morning, I'm John C. Dvorak.
	It's Crackpot and Buzzkill.
	In the morning.
	Well, well, well.
	Well, that's about it.
	Yep.
	It would be funny just to make a one-minute show.
	We could do it.
	I don't know how good it would be.
	Probably not very good.
	It'd be as good as any one-minute show ever.
	I've had all kinds of humming problems today.
	Oh, is it Mickey?
	No.
	No, there's something going on with...
	Just walking around humming?
	No, no.
	I don't know.
	My microphone all of a sudden started picking up...
	Oh, that's the NSA. That's about the only answer I have for it.
	If I point the microphone in a different direction, it picks up different frequencies.
	Do you want to hear it?
	Well, first, my microphone does the same thing.
	I don't move it too much.
	Let me move it for you just a little bit.
	Alright, alright.
	If you're not going to be serious about it, then it's fine.
	Okay, I'm sorry.
	I'm sorry.
	Go on.
	No, never mind.
	Never mind.
	We'll just deal with it.
	No, I want to hear the humming mic.
	No, it's fine.
	We'll deal with it.
	Adam and his humming mic.
	We'll deal with it.
	I've heard about this.
	Nah.
	It's what we would call weird.
	Which is another one of those words I believe has been overused in popular culture.
	Have you noticed?
	Oh, you'll notice it now.
	The one I'm getting annoyed by is amazeballs.
	Okay, so we have amazing, we have...
	What's the other one people like to use?
	Amazing.
	Awesome.
	And then amazeballs.
	But be on the lookout for weird.
	Weird.
	And whenever something is not amazing or awesome or amazeballs, it almost by definition is going to be weird.
	And weird is, you know, if you really look at the definition of weird, it would mean unearthly, uncanny, bizarre...
	Odd.
	Odd?
	Odd is actually, if you catch yourself using the word weird a lot, please use odd instead.
	Odd is much better.
	Much shorter.
	And shorter, yes.
	Just another one of those words I'm paying attention.
	It's like share.
	People, newcomers to the show, have to realize that we worry ourselves sick.
	About the vocabulary.
	About using these meme-like words that people just use, drop in routinely.
	And it catches on to us, too.
	We get infected.
	I think this, that, and the other is a good example.
	You have to say this, that, and the other thing.
	I never do that, but I did it once.
	I got nailed, and then I got, of course, the fact of the matter.
	Which has morphed.
	It has morphed.
	Fact of the matter has now become the truth of the matter.
	Yes, Obama's saying that.
	I'm hearing a lot of people saying that.
	Yeah, the truth of the matter.
	The truth of the matter.
	Yeah, but it's the same bullcrap.
	I read an interesting essay on the word share.
	And how that has changed significantly, particularly in our digital culture, where to share, of course, mainly had to do with distribution.
	So I'm going to share either distribution of...
	File sharing.
	Well, yes, file sharing.
	That already changed some of it, where sharing used to be, I would have something, I will share half of it with you.
	So that's dividing something and giving a piece to other people.
	Then we had file sharing as the same entity giving you a copy of it.
	And then share, of course, now means communicate.
	So share, as in share it through social media.
	I'd like to share something with you, Adam.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, but the word has changed significantly in its meaning.
	And if you look at, and this is a good one, if you look at terms and services of any of these bullcrap Silicon Valley companies and they'll say, we will not share your information with everybody, they're not lying.
	Because sharing is not the same as selling.
	Right.
	It's not.
	And these words matter.
	Well, talking about words that matter, I've got a couple here.
	Clips for the Evergreen collection.
	Oh, wait a minute.
	Did we pick a couple of the same truth?
	Yeah, we did.
	You got the truther guy?
	Yeah, of course.
	Eigenwald from Newsweek?
	Oh, no, no.
	You got a different guy?
	That guy, yeah, he's horrible.
	No, this is from him.
	This is the blah, blah, blah, blah clip.
	Yeah, okay, let's set this up.
	This was on C-SPAN. We both saw this.
	This is the writer, Kurt Eichenwald, I want to say his name.
	Maybe Dan, I don't know.
	Well, see, I got it written down here on the back of an envelope.
	Hold on.
	I just have Eichenwalde.
	Yes, me too.
	And he wrote an article in Newsweek how conspiracy theories are killing the nation.
	They're ruining the place.
	And it's horrible for America.
	It's just the worst possible thing.
	And I watched this with my mouth agape.
	My mouth was agape.
	I have the setup clip, which is the anti-conspiracy theory guy intro.
	Doesn't it happen often that we really come up with the exact same clips?
	This is a strange occurrence.
	Eichenwald is the author of a recent Newsweek cover story, The Plots to Destroy America, about conspiracy theorists and theories that they believe in.
	He joins us now to talk about that story.
	And Mr.
	Eichenwald, why should those who don't believe in conspiracy theorists worry about those that do?
	Well, because it's harming the country.
	I mean, we've gotten into a point that is very different from what we've experienced in the past, where you have actually politicians who are repeating conspiracy theories, who are advocating conspiracy theories.
	I mean, just the other day, you had a member of Congress who was saying that, you know, the Obama administration wanted the, you know, children of refugees from Latin America to come into the United States so we could perform medical experimentation on them.
	Now, this was interesting to me.
	I thought that was very funny, but I looked it up.
	I went, who said this?
	I wanted to know who said this and in what context was it said.
	Do you have any idea?
	No, I didn't go as far as you went, but I want to say one thing.
	This guy obviously doesn't pay much attention to Congress because they're saying whacked out crap and always have been.
	We've listened to enough of these guys.
	Yeah, this is crazy shit.
	I mean, give me a break.
	Well, this is, of course, it being Newsweek, it being a particular slant of media, this was a swipe at Michelle Bachman, the crazy nutjob Republican.
	Oh, yeah.
	That would make sense.
	But I wanted to find out, what had she said?
	Actually, let me get this clip back again.
	Because he's framed it in a very certain way.
	Where is it now?
	Why can't I find it?
	Intro, right?
	Let me just listen to this again.
	He frames it in such a way that if you were to repeat what you think he said, it was...
	Well, let's forget it.
	Let's just listen to what he says.
	And theories that they believe in.
	He joins us now to talk about that story.
	And Mr.
	Eichenwald, why should those who don't believe in conspiracy theorists worry about those that do?
	Well, because it's harming the country.
	I mean, we've gotten into a point that is very different from what we've experienced in the past, where you have actually politicians who are repeating conspiracy theories.
	Okay, politicians who are repeating conspiracy theories.
	Who are advocating conspiracy theories.
	I mean, just the other day you had a member of Congress who was saying that the Obama administration wanted the children refugees from Latin America to come into the United States so we could perform medical experimentation on them.
	Okay.
	So what we are looking for is some proof that a member of Congress has said that the Obama administration wants children coming in from South American countries, refugees, so we can perform medical experiments on them.
	Like, I don't know, it's kind of like a Nazi Jew thing, if you really, you know, it's like, yeah, yeah, make lampshades out of their skin.
	Okay, so I went looking for this because I had not heard this before.
	And I'm pretty much in tune with all the conspiracy theories.
	And this is something that was wide.
	The headline pretty much universally says, Bachman, wingnut, crazy, batshit, crazy kook.
	It says Obama wants to experiment on children.
	And it all is derived from this one interview on some talk radio show.
	And bear in mind, Michelle Bachman is a foster parent to like 20 children.
	She and her husband have been foster parents for a long time.
	So she does know a little bit about the Child Protective Services program.
	A foster child, by definition, is a ward of the state.
	We have 400,000 foster children in this country and now President Obama is trying to bring all of the foreign nationals, the illegal aliens, to the country and he has said that he will put them in the foster care system.
	Well, I will tell you from personal experience, we don't have enough foster parents now in the country for the kids in America.
	We certainly don't have enough foster parents for all of the illegal aliens that the President is trying to bring in right now, but again, that's more kids That you can see how...
	We can't imagine doing this, but if you have a hospital and they are going to get millions of dollars in government grants if they can conduct medical research on somebody, an award of the state can't say no.
	A little kid can't say no if they're a ward of the state.
	So here you could have this institution getting millions of dollars from our government to do medical experimentation, and a kid can't even say no at sick.
	Follow the money.
	I would say it's a little different than the way Mr.
	Eichenwald portrayed it.
	Yeah, that's very disappointing.
	What, that some member of the media is full of crap?
	No, that I didn't catch that.
	I just assumed he was full of crap in some other way or just something minor, but I actually have the proof, which you have.
	Oh, yeah, of course.
	Ten points for this.
	Of course.
	I'll give you one point.
	That's all right.
	I'll take 0.5.
	But to actually bring this out is a disgusting...
	Piece of evidence.
	It's just disgusting that he would do the way he did it.
	The whole thing that he did was this way.
	And also...
	Well, you have your set of his clips.
	Well, I just want to say that...
	No, we have the same clips.
	Trust me.
	But I just want to say that if in the show notes you'll find a link to this interview, you need to look at this a-hole smug face.
	With his big head, and he's laughing and sneering and scowling.
	Republicans are crazy.
	That's pretty much what his article really is saying, as far as I'm concerned.
	Yeah, well, there's that.
	Alright, you do your clips.
	We have the same ones, believe me.
	Okay, well, he goes on, and he does a roundabout way of bringing things into the conversation, but let's play his...
	This is the...
	Anti-conspiracy guy on Agenda 21.
	This is the opener.
	Here's what he opens with.
	Yeah, and this is why I was grabbing these clips.
	I'm like, oh, John, he'll love this.
	But of course, we both saw the same thing.
	And what are some of the conspiracy theories that you think are causing some of the most harm in this country right now?
	Well, one of the worst is the conspiracy theory about Agenda 21.
	The minute I heard this, I'm like, okay.
	We have read the Agenda 21 documents.
	Which, if you printed it out, it would make me nine feet tall.
	Oh, it is so...
	I actually wrote...
	I told this before, but I've written to the United Nations to get a printout of it.
	Yeah.
	Because I couldn't buy enough paper.
	To print out Agenda 21.
	And they won't send me one.
	Before we play the rest of this, we've both analyzed Agenda 21.
	It is a United Nations charter which essentially sets out how the earth is more important than the people on it and how we need to protect the earth under all circumstances.
	A big paraphrase because it's such a huge document.
	But it has been the guiding light.
	And it's not some kind of agreement, or, you know, it's not a...
	It's guidelines.
	It's guidelines, but from the guidelines, thousands of non-governmental organizations and governmental organizations have received billions of dollars to study, research, create reports, and to create this vision.
	Is that a fair assessment of what Agenda 21 is?
	I think that's as good as anything.
	And, you know, I can tell you right now, I said those words, and there are people all over the country reaching for their phones.
	No.
	I didn't.
	Did you reach for my phone?
	I didn't reach for my phone.
	No, I didn't reach.
	Because what that one is, is a belief...
	There is...
	Agenda 21...
	You can't even start explaining what Agenda 21 is, but okay.
	10 to 21 is a non-binding agreement that was signed during the original George Bush administration back in the early 1990s.
	Yeah, the New World Order guy.
	They try to make it sound as though it's innocuous because the original George Bush was in on it.
	Yeah, but he was the guy who...
	He was the New World Order guy.
	And by the way, ladies and gentlemen, you're listening to John C. Dvorak say this, okay?
	This is not your crackpot curry.
	We all know this.
	1990s.
	you know, in the UN saying that the countries would make, you know, we're making a commitment to basically to care for the environment, basically to act in ways that preserved the environment, allowed for, you know, things basically to act in ways that preserved the environment, allowed for, you know, things in terms of planning, in terms of urban development, blah, Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
	Oh, wait.
	Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
	Okay, you spruced it up there.
	I didn't realize that.
	Things in terms of planning, in terms of urban development, blah, blah, blah, blah.
	Yeah, when I heard that, I was like, I'm going to get a clip of the day, but of course now I can't because you have the same clips.
	Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
	So he's now taking a document, which is too big to print on a home printer without running out of ink, and he's saying, it's just blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
	It's just blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
	What a dick.
	Yeah.
	Give me the, uh...
	Douchebag!
	Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
	Finish it off, because I have the punchline.
	It's built into...
	And I'll shut up.
	I'll shut up.
	Um...
	Nothing big.
	It's a non-binding commitment.
	This has become a belief in an overarching conspiracy of a new world order that is trying to seize private property in the United States to grant trees the rights of humans.
	There are actually people saying they're going to shuffle us off all into train cars and send us to work camps.
	I mean, it's crazy stuff.
	Again with the Nazi stuff.
	What is he talking about?
	Again with the Nazis and the Jews.
	What is he talking about that people are...
	Oh, yeah, somebody brought up Agenda 21 because they want to give rights to trees.
	This is nonsense.
	It is very, very poor...
	Journalism?
	Well, I'm not going to say that's good or bad journalism, because it's not journalism at all.
	Well, if you read the article, which essentially...
	But the rights to trees, I'm hearing the guy say that the people against Agenda 21 think that the world government, the evil world government that's coming our way is going to give rights to trees.
	I have never heard that, and I listen to all the right-wing stuff and the left-wing stuff.
	And you hang out with me from time to time.
	Hang out with you?
	I have never heard.
	This guy is making it up.
	I haven't heard the rights of trees.
	So they've got the right to vote?
	Is that what he's implying?
	Hey, man, my pine tree votes no.
	I found it to be really interesting that, first of all, why this was even...
	I mean, how can this...
	Well, Newsweek, I guess.
	Maybe that says no.
	Newsweek is not what Newsweek used to be.
	It's back on the stands is weird.
	And I... What?!
	Did you say weird?
	Is that uncanny, or is it unearthly, or is it odd?
	It's very strange that Newsweek is back on the newsstands.
	Isn't that owned by Jane Harman, the Arab that owns them now?
	I'm not sure.
	Oh, I thought she bought it.
	Okay.
	But good call on the weird.
	Mm-hmm.
	Yeah.
	Well, the reason they were playing this on C-SPAN was the counterbalance.
	The other interview they had with the 9-11, Truth or Gage, who's the architect that owns, you know, the architects and engineers.
	Before you go there, do I get to do one of my clips from Eichenwal?
	I have one of them.
	Another clip from him, but I'll let you take it.
	Take it!
	Okay, the one I wanted to grab was this one, obviously.
	The big one are the anti-vacciners.
	And I've never heard anti-vaxxers.
	I've never heard anti-vacciners.
	He doesn't even have the lingo down.
	He doesn't even know the slogans.
	These are people who believe that there is a vast conspiracy among the government and the pharmaceutical industry.
	Yeah, there is.
	And the vast conspiracy is indemnification.
	The pharmaceutical corporations can not be sued if you are in any way harmed or injured by a vaccination.
	That is a conspiracy.
	Is that not a textbook definition of a conspiracy?
	They are breathing together, conspire, breathing together to make sure that no one can sue them.
	I would question that because to me a conspiracy is something that nobody knows about.
	It's a backroom deal that's never revealed.
	If you went on the street and asked how many people knew about this...
	If you went on the street and asked people where California was here in California, they wouldn't get it.
	Okay, but the point is, it wasn't like a big press release.
	There's no reason to publicize such things.
	The public might be annoyed.
	To hide the realities of the dangers of vaccinations.
	Anything you have has a danger.
	Anything that is injected into your body has a danger.
	I love this false analogy.
	I love the false analogy.
	Explain.
	Hey, you know, when you step out on the street, you could be hit by a bus.
	You put something in your body, it could be dangerous.
	Hey, get that thing out of me!
	Stop sticking that in me.
	Could be dangerous.
	The question is, is the danger significant?
	Statistically significant?
	Or is it significant compared to not having it?
	It's only when you're not one of the 1% that it's completely not significant.
	The anti-vacciners are, again, living in a world...
	Listen to me.
	Wrong term again.
	Jenny McCarthy.
	Listen up, he's talking about you, you crazy Nazi bitch.
	Of these vast conspiracies that are hiding these vast problems that don't exist.
	Vast, vast, vast problems, vast conspiracies.
	Not vast, it's just a couple guys.
	They've been disproven over and over again.
	The problem is we now have a recurrence.
	Measles was almost completely defeated in this country until the anti-vacciners came along.
	Now, measles is on the upswing.
	So, really?
	That's also...
	That's very questionable.
	Because people aren't getting their kids vaccinated because they believe it'll cause autism or all these other conditions that there is no reputable proof that backs the idea up.
	Okay, then I had one more, and then I'll let you...
	Before you go, do you remember, we did it on the show, in fact, it's on one of the all-purpose clip shows, about three years ago, four years ago, when the measles thing was hitting a fever pitch, to the point where they're having TV shows about it, And everything was caused by measles.
	You know, they arrested some woman who didn't get a shot on law and order.
	And then they nailed her for a homicide because her kid got the measles and gave it to a mom or something like that.
	This is a, you know, beating this dead horse.
	And I don't notice that measles is going berserk.
	Now we have an epidemic!
	No, this guy and his anti-vaccinationers, or whatever it's called.
	Anti-vacciners.
	Anti-vacciners.
	He doesn't even get it right.
	It's just a bad sign.
	Now, he used to be an investigative reporter for the New York Times, and now he's working for really a very...
	Low-grade.
	Low-grade.
	Low-grade operation.
	Newsweek used to be a famous high-grade operation.
	Why would you quit the New York Times to work for this?
	I don't know.
	Well, and then he got into my favorite topic, which I like very much.
	And, of course, perfect opportunity for so many producers to call in and at least give them an in the morning, which did not happen, as always.
	Here's the one I like the most.
	Take the 9-11 truthers.
	These are the people who believe that the Bush administration actually knocked down the World Trade Center and actually set this all up so we could have wars.
	Yeah, you know, and I'm listening to that and I'm thinking, well, yeah, that's disputable if you want, but what is not disputable is how the Bush administration actually went about ensuring that we could have wars by invading Iraq.
	And I went back to some United Nations testimony, which of course is complete conspiracy theory that I am bringing this up.
	And this is a recording of the Bush administration's own conspiracy theory, which now we know to be a lie.
	But, of course, we can joke about it.
	There were no weapons of mass destruction to be found.
	And President Bush even joked about how stupid that was.
	But it really came down to Colin Powell.
	Having these weapons in 1995, the quantities were vast.
	Vast!
	Vast!
	Less than a teaspoon of dry anthrax.
	A little bit...
	About this amount.
	Remember, he's holding up the vial of anthrax right there.
	Right there.
	He's got a prop, which I'm sure it was baking soda, but okay, it's anthrax.
	This is just about the amount of a teaspoon.
	Less than a teaspoonful of dry anthrax in an envelope shut down the United States Senate.
	And he goes on and on.
	So that is exactly what happened.
	Of course, you can argue about the Twin Towers and how or what, but there is no denying that the Bush administration lied to the American public and used props, baking soda in a little vial, to go to war with Iraq!
	You know, what you end up with is not, well, here is my evidence that leads me to these conclusions.
	It's, let me tear down the official story.
	Yeah.
	Why do you think this was published at all?
	It's a little annoying that we have Cass Sunstein, who of course is married to the Power Woman, Powers Woman, who was our UN ambassador, Samantha Powers.
	He wrote the book on conspiracy theories.
	He writes continuous articles about how to infiltrate the conspiracy chat rooms on the internet and co-op them.
	What are they worried about?
	If we're just a bunch of tinfoil hat-wearing crazy truthers and anti-vacciners, why are they worried about us?
	Aren't we just fringe enough?
	I know what's going on.
	They're worried sick about the 28-page report.
	There's a word out.
	We've got to do something to muddy the water.
	So let's bring this guy in.
	Because one of the things they did on C-SPAN to hopefully muddy the waters is bring on Gage, the architect.
	I have some three clips from him.
	I thought he was very weak, actually.
	I did not like his appearance.
	Well, he's not a good speaker.
	No.
	They need a dynamic person, but then you can't, you know, you need some...
	I think their thinking is you need some dry guy.
	Well, let's set this up for a moment for people who do not know.
	I don't want you to think we're just some crazy anti-vacciners here.
	Vacciners.
	Anti-vacciners.
	There are two groups, which I personally have respect for, who have evaluated the events of 9-11.
	One is architects and engineers.
	Thousands of architects and engineers...
	Who say the official story does not make sense according to our schooling and our expertise.
	And then there's pilots for 9-11 Truth, which I am a member of, who say the data, even the officially published data, such as these aircraft flying at 350 miles an hour at 2,000 feet, it's just not possible.
	Oh, it is if you want to fly without wings because they've been ripped off and you're burning in flight.
	So the official data is, at best, wrong.
	And you might say it was manipulated, i.e.
	there may be some lying going on.
	And these are the two groups which I think have the most validity with their argument.
	Well, the...
	The argument is essentially, to boil it down, that these buildings were rigged with high explosives to be brought down in a demolition fashion, straight down, and all the buildings showed signs that there were elements within the finally collapsed structure, that this was controlled demolition, he says, done by a criminal element, which could have been anybody, including the building's owner.
	Which seems more likely than George Bush.
	But they keep pointing to WTC7, which has a number of interesting issues with it, and you can play the WTC7 thing, or not play it at all, where he goes on and on with the details, and you can play it as much as you want, want, which is Truth around WTC7.
	And this is, uh, the guy is, uh, what is his name?
	Richard Gage, who is the head of this, uh, architects and engineers for 9-11 truth.
	On the NIST report, some people have said that a failure at one column should not have produced a symmetrical fall like this one.
	What is NIST's answer to those assertions?
	World Trade Center 7's collapse, NIST says, viewed from the exterior, most videos were taken from the north, did appear to fall almost uniformly as a single unit.
	This occurred because the interior failures that took place did not cause the exterior framing to fail until the final stages of the building collapse.
	The interior floor framing and columns collapsed downward and pulled away from the exterior frame.
	There were clues that internal damage was taking place prior to the downward movement of the exterior frame.
	Here's another one of NIST's cute Answers to an extremely difficult question.
	You cannot have the interior of a 47 story, 40,000 ton structural steel frame fail without pulling in the side of the building and causing massive warpage on the exterior perimeter structural steel system.
	It can't happen.
	They're talking once again in their computer models, which betrays their own theory, that we have 400 structural steel connections that have to fail in their computer models in order to get that interior to fail and then the exterior.
	We don't even have massive window breakage on the exterior.
	It can't happen.
	In fact, what does happen is the penthouse drops, the main penthouse, a half a second prior to the overall.
	So just half a second prior, the penthouse drops, then the overall building drops again.
	How fast?
	Free fall acceleration.
	That fast.
	Seven seconds.
	Total structural shattering of the entire structural steel system, beam from column almost.
	So this can't happen unless all of those are compromised.
	When you have a pile driver that's driving the rest of the building down, it's doing work.
	In this case, it's falling at free fall, meaning all of its energy is transferred to kinetic energy or motion.
	There's no energy left to do any work, such as driving the rest of the building down to the ground.
	That work has to have come from another force.
	Yes.
	Yes, thank you.
	That is correct.
	Of course, both are wrong.
	Gage is wrong, and the 9-11 report is wrong, and NIST is wrong.
	We all know, obviously, that these buildings were brought down by directed energy weapons from space.
	WTC-7 won't come away.
	It's okay.
	He had another little segment.
	This is a short little tidbit thing that he has that he mentions.
	And I want to bring this up because it brings up a commentary opportunity.
	But play this little clip.
	Most of them, and I think there's about 80,000 in the American Institute of Architects, Most every one of them, first of all, are unfamiliar with the evidence, particularly World Trade Center Building 7.
	This is the third worst structural failure in modern history, and yet architects and engineers are not familiar with it.
	So, when we travel, we get them in our audiences, and just like lay people in the audience...
	They end up agreeing with us by an overwhelming majority, I mean like 90 to 100% of them, when they see this building coming down, which, by the way, they can see also on our website, ae911truth.org.
	Anyway, the point is that you'd think this being the third worst.
	And the other ones, I think, are like that bridge that was over the Straits that just fell apart.
	And the Tacoma-Washington Bridge, I think, is one of them.
	But there's a bunch of these, and they're all terrible.
	In fact, there's a list here of bad engineering examples.
	There's like ten.
	There's the Cleveland East Ohio gas explosion, the Hyatt Regency Hotel walkway collapse.
	It's just a walkway, not a building.
	The Chernobyl thing, I think, ranks number one or number two.
	Anyway, there's a bunch of these.
	It would seem unlikely, because this design was not experimental in any way, and it wasn't even damaged, hardly, that the collapse of this thing would be the number one thing you'd be studying in architecture school with all the details.
	Yeah, you'd kind of not want to have that happen again.
	Right.
	If it was just collapsed, this thing just out of the blue collapses.
	And so, you know, the WTC7 thing has still not been explained.
	What I always find interesting is...
	The Hindenburg, I think, is another one.
	There are cars around, vehicles around the area that only...
	Like, the car is perfectly intact, but the engine is disintegrated, completely melted away.
	A car sitting on the street.
	But the seats are fine.
	The seats haven't burned up or anything.
	The door handles have melted away.
	That's what I find more interesting than looking at the rubble, which of course is what is happening around that.
	And when you see some of those pictures...
	Of specific pieces of mainly aluminum completely just melted into goo into a river of molten nothing, but it's not like jet fuel fell on that or there was a beam, a burning beam that fell on it.
	Those are the things that I question.
	Yeah, well, you can question them.
	Yeah, I do.
	But ultimately, you're right.
	This is clearly about the 28 pages.
	Just to get some noise out there.
	They're softening the blow.
	It's crazy, people.
	Who needs to think about 28 pages?
	Just as a conspiracy...
	But the 28 pages, which we've talked about in the last show, and I think before that...
	28pages.org is now a website for this phenomenon.
	It's going to happen.
	They're the only reason they keep talking about this in the mainstream media and keeps being brought up here and there and all this other stuff.
	This truther guy, I've never seen him on television.
	Ever.
	I don't think he was treated with much respect, by the way.
	Oh, the gauge guy.
	No, of course not.
	Please.
	He's crazy.
	But they had him on.
	They had him on.
	Well, John, I came across some very fortuitous information, which I'm very, very proud to present to you right now.
	And this is in our quest to understand the claim that 97% of climate scientists...
	No, 97% of all scientists.
	I'm pretty sure it's climate scientists.
	Okay.
	Well, let's just give them the benefit of the doubt.
	That would be even better.
	We're narrowing it down in their favor.
	97% of all climate scientists agree with the consensus...
	The consensus position that global warming is caused by humans.
	This would be what would...
	The actual message changes from time to time.
	Sometimes someone will say, oh, 97% of scientists agree.
	But in general, I believe the statement is 97% of all climate scientists agree with the consensus that global warming is caused by humans.
	AGW, anthropogenic global warming.
	And we have, I questioned, what is the whole number?
	And where is this research coming from?
	And since it's being thrown in our faces all the time, I would like to understand the numbers.
	And everybody uses the 97% meme.
	Everybody.
	John Kerry makes it 98-99.
	He's an idiot.
	That's the global warming going on in his watermelon head.
	That's why he ups the ante by two spots.
	And I found it.
	Multiple pieces of feedback from our audience, which is just, of course, this is why we call them producers, not listeners, pointed me to a report, which is the report...
	That proves this 97% number.
	And there's a video to go with it, so I'm going to play a little bit of the audio, and then I will give you the abstract of the report.
	And it is titled, Quantifying the Consensus on Anthropogenic Global Warming in the Scientific Literature.
	And this is where even our president gets this number from.
	Hi, I'm John Cook, lead author of the paper, Quantifying the Consensus on Anthropogenic Global Warming in the Scientific Literature.
	Our paper measures the level of agreement that humans are causing global warming in climate papers published between 1991 and 2011.
	Now there have been several studies measuring the level of agreement on human-caused global warming in the scientific community.
	Both papers found that among climate scientists actively publishing climate research, 97% agree that humans are causing global warming.
	But scientists have to back up their opinions with evidence that survives the scrutiny of experts in their field.
	In other words, peer-reviewed research.
	The first analysis of this type was by Naomi Oreskes, Now this goes on for two minutes, but he's already kind of glossed over the fact that the numbers are really a lie.
	And I'm going to read from this guy's paper, from his very own abstract.
	And you'll see what I mean.
	Abstract of quantifying the consensus on anthropogenic global warming in the scientific literature.
	We analyze the evolution of the scientific consensus on anthropogenic global warming in the peer-reviewed scientific literature, examining 11,944 climate abstracts from 1991 to 2011, matching the topics global climate change or global warming.
	And here it comes, John.
	We find that 66.4% of abstracts expressed no position on anthropogenic global warming.
	32.6% endorsed AGW, 0.7% rejected AGW, and 0.3% were uncertain about the cause of global warming.
	Among abstracts expressing a position on AGW, 97.1 endorsed the consensus position that humans are causing global warming.
	But what he's omitting to say is that only 32% of all scientists even had an opinion on...
	So he says 97% of the 30% who had an opinion.
	Yes.
	So it's 97% of 30%, which is about 29% total.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	That's all you need to know.
	I should be writing this up as a column or something.
	That's a great little tidbit.
	Remember...
	They say 32.6% of all 100 endorsed anthropogenic global warming.
	That's only 32%.
	And the other 66.4% expressed no position on human or man-made global warming.
	Which you can't say means they're against it, but certainly doesn't mean they were for it.
	So really, only 32.6% of all peer-reviewed research says, yes, this is man-made.
	That's a minority.
	Yeah, a significant minority.
	And they put all of them to agree, and they only got 97% of them.
	Yeah, so they took the 32.6% and then said, hey, do you endorse the consensus?
	Oh, yeah, I'll raise my hand.
	Does that mean more money for me?
	Mean more money?
	Yeah.
	Well, the people that we should have make sure Ramsey clips that little bit right there.
	It's very good.
	They're on a roll today.
	You got two things.
	They're a little minor, but they're very important.
	There's one...
	Did you see this report?
	Which is the stupidest thing I've ever seen any political organization or, I'm sorry, I should say politicians themselves do in these United States.
	This is the United States Senate Committee on Environment and Public Works, the Minority Staff Report.
	The Chain of Environmental Command.
	And this is a report from the Senate.
	The Senate Committee on Environment and Public Works, the Minority Staff Report.
	So the Senate, I believe, is controlled by Democrats.
	Right, so the minority report would be coming from Tom Cruise.
	Tom Cruise and Tom and Penelope Cruz.
	And here is, this is from July 30th, and here is the subtext of this report.
	It says right on the front page, How a Club of Billionaires and Their Foundations Control the Environmental Movement and Obama's EPA. Now, what they are trying to do is...
	And, of course, they set it out quite well by saying the EPA and President Obama have billionaires funding this green movement.
	Oh!
	Oh!
	Let's call it Agenda 21 or whatever you want to call it.
	And this is from the Senate.
	This is a serious document.
	These statements are remarkable.
	In reality, an elite group of left-wing millionaires and billionaires, which this report refers to as the Billionaires Club, who direct and control the far-left environmental movement, which in turn controls major policy decisions and lobbies on behalf of the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency.
	Yeah, we have, by the way, these types of people right here in the San Francisco Bay Area.
	They're all in Silicon Valley.
	Yes.
	And if you take a look at some of the funding, especially Kleiner Perkins, when they started funding like crazy, every green idea they could come up with damn near broke the company.
	But they're all Democrats, and many of them are billionaires.
	A dominant organization in this movement is Sea Change Foundation, a private California foundation which relies on funding from a foreign company with undisclosed donors.
	In turn, SeeChange funnels tens of millions of dollars to other large but discreet foundations and prominent environmental activists who strive to control both policy and politics.
	And what this is, obviously, is they're trying to strike back against the Koch brothers!
	But they're idiots!
	You are stupid, stupid, stupid people.
	And why is this, Adam?
	If you're going to do this, you create a report with facts, and you let the media call it the club of billionaires.
	You don't go out with it like that.
	You don't put it on the front page, you stupid, stupid, stupid morons.
	You little, tweeny, twerpy, dick-headed, small-penis dumbshits.
	Can you get back to the point?
	Yeah, they need help.
	If someone wants to communicate something to the public, you don't release a report on July 30th, a Thursday, in the middle of summer, before everyone's about to go where the world is melting down with all kinds of crap going on, and then say, oh, it's a club of billionaires, so you can be ridiculed.
	So you're assuming that they wanted this to go out the right way?
	No, this is what they think is the right way.
	Are you assuming that they think this is the right way, or is just the opposite true?
	No, I'm assuming they believe this is the right way to communicate this.
	And I think they're stupid.
	Well, you've made that point.
	Yeah, the way you do it is like...
	Coke Brothers!
	If you want the public to get behind you, you need to help people visualize who it is you're talking about.
	You need to put not some foundation and foreign stuff.
	You've got to put a name on it.
	Even though no one could pick out the Coke Brothers from a crowd, everybody knows about them.
	So you're thinking the public relations agencies that are working on the side of this...
	Should be burned at the stake.
	Don't you think there may be some...
	Don't you think that the complexity of public relations in this day and age, for example, they're all owned by two companies?
	Yeah.
	With the exception of a few independents.
	But the big boys that work out of Washington, D.C., I can assure you, almost any one of them is working for WPP and Omnicon or whatever.
	Yeah, that's the two.
	And so they all work within this group, and they tend to be left-wing oriented in general.
	You're saying they sabotaged it?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	I hadn't thought of it that way.
	Well, it doesn't matter.
	Look, I'm a disc jockey.
	You're a columnist.
	Even we can see that this is stupid.
	How can our representatives in the government...
	Is there no one who says, this may not be such a good idea, boss?
	Is there no one who sees that?
	No, you're right.
	Not at all.
	I'm surprised you got so worked up about it, to be honest about it.
	Worked up is just...
	The stupidity is beyond me.
	It's beyond me.
	No, it's not.
	You've seen it before.
	This is not a shock to you.
	You're feigning.
	It's a good report.
	That's the problem.
	They did the work.
	Yeah, they did the work.
	All the names in here, all the companies, all the foundations.
	Name some companies.
	Okay.
	Hold on a second.
	It's all marked up if you wanted.
	So yeah, we have the...
	It's mainly the SeaChange Foundation.
	Yeah, if you go to cchange.org, it's like a page you can't go any further.
	I find that a little annoying.
	Kline Limited, overseas company contributing tens of millions to organizations dedicated to abolishing the use of affordable fossil fuels through a U.S. private foundation.
	The problem is you can't...
	These are 501c3s and 4s, and you can't find out who...
	You can't follow a paper trail back, but they've done some of that work to find out what foreign organizations are contributing.
	Okay, I'll look at it later.
	It's 99 pages.
	It's a pretty in-depth report.
	But here are some names.
	Okay, here's the $6 billion from David and Lucille Packard Foundation.
	There you go.
	Silicon Valley.
	$5.6 billion from Gordon and Betty Moore Foundation.
	Silicon Valley.
	$117 million from the Heinz Family Foundation.
	John Kerry.
	$51 million from the Marisla Foundation.
	I don't know what that is.
	I never heard that.
	$366 million from the Park Foundation.
	Yeah.
	$800 million from the Rockefeller Brothers.
	$46 million from the Smith Family Foundation.
	That's Eric and Wendy.
	$124 million from the Sea Change Foundation.
	My favorite has got to be $2 billion from the Walton Family Foundation.
	And then here's your other Silicon Valleyers.
	$8 billion from the William and Flora Hewlett Foundation.
	Part of the Hewlett-Packard cabal.
	Yeah, that sounds about right.
	Well, I mean, there's a vested interest here, too.
	I mean, if they could get semiconductors to be the source of energy, then screw the petroleum business.
	So the money goes into Climate Works Foundation, the Energy Foundation, and here's the one that is disturbing, the Pew Charitable Trusts.
	These are the guys that do the research.
	Right, so they came out with the reports that can screw with you.
	Yeah.
	And they, of course, you know, it's the pew.
	I mean, how can you ever question them?
	Well, the same way I question NPR and PBS. American Lung Association Benefits, Blue-Green Alliance Foundation, Center for American Progress, of course.
	Well, I question NPR and PBS, too.
	Yeah.
	Well, why is it always me?
	No, I mean, like Pew.
	People will say to you...
	No, you said you questioned them as though I... Oh, no, I'm sorry.
	No, I did not mean...
	Of course, you're with me on this.
	No, I did not mean it to come out that way.
	Okay, I'm just saying.
	It was weird.
	Odd, perhaps.
	Weird, unlikely.
	Anyway, go on.
	So...
	Okay, you got a little...
	Okay, well...
	The beat goes on, that's all I can tell you.
	Yeah, the beat goes on.
	Sonny and Cher.
	Well, you were getting that stuff.
	I was paying more attention to some of the cool stuff on the YouTubes, and I got a ham radio report here you might want to listen to.
	Oh, yeah.
	Ham radio?
	Are you kidding me?
	I'm all in.
	Okay, this is a Henry amplifier.
	This used to be a, I believe, a Henry 2K classic.
	What is this, John?
	What are you doing to me?
	80 through 10 meters, but it has been modified with a pair of 8877s.
	Are you trying to mock me?
	Is this your idea of humor?
	You know, yeah.
	Some guy looking at tubes.
	This is a tube, and it gets nice and hot on the 80-meter band.
	This is where all the racist right-wing a-holes hang out on 80 meters, yes.
	Is that a fact?
	Well, it's a generalization.
	If you really want to hear some crazy crap, go to 14.313.
	14, I'm writing it down.
	That's the 20 meter band.
	You don't have a radio for that, so you don't need to write anything down.
	You don't have a 20 meter band.
	I have a receiver.
	Okay.
	14.313 megahertz USB. Alright, onward.
	Yeah, thanks.
	I'm not going to play any more of that report.
	Unfair.
	Missed the point where he gets to the Transformer.
	It's pretty interesting.
	Right.
	I got a lot of feedback from people on the U.S. media policies.
	They were talking about what CNN is showing on, you know, the death and destruction and how you get fined if you show a nipple.
	I got some interesting observations.
	One is, hey, you know, we weren't allowed to see, even in evidence, one speck of blood from Newtown.
	We weren't allowed to see.
	We still have not seen the video of the Sarnoff brothers dropping a backpack into a trash can which killed people and exploded and maimed others.
	Because it would be too horrific for us to see.
	However, it's okay.
	I guess if you're brown and you live in the sand, I guess it's okay for us to watch.
	Then we can see your dead children.
	Because, you know, it's in the Middle East.
	It's not here.
	Kiss a breast?
	Rating X. Hack the tit off?
	Rating R. Yeah, I think this is a good point.
	A number of people have brought this up, and that we have a situation where, and the public doesn't seem to notice, it seems to me, that the Sarnoff Brothers video, nobody except us, I think, has ever talked about it.
	About the missing video that somebody has seen, but nobody that we've...
	Well, there is a...
	I think it was 60 Minutes.
	Yeah, there is a recreation.
	Yeah, that little flashing...
	Why don't you explain it again?
	I'm sure there's newcomers to the show that don't know this.
	Yes, this is the smoking gun, if you will, of the Sarniff brothers putting the actual...
	Backpack with the super explosive rice cooker, pressure cooker, into the trash can.
	And even the, let me see, what is the, was it the governor?
	Yeah, the governor.
	The governor of Massachusetts has not seen this.
	Now, I should have been a little more prepared for this, but I think I can probably find the clip where he says he has not even seen it.
	And...
	We keep getting promised that it'll show up in court or it's going to be seen, but it's really so horrific that they've only done recreations of it.
	What would I have titled that?
	I would have titled that Governor?
	Probably Sarnoff Brothers or Bomb.
	Try Bomb.
	Let me try Bomb.
	Yeah, bomb.
	That won't return too many search results, will it?
	Bomb video.
	Let's see.
	Well, you never know.
	Bomb video.
	Bomb video.
	Boston bombing.
	Should cameras be anywhere, everywhere?
	That could be it.
	I'm looking specifically for...
	You know, I think there is a video, but it shows the Sarnoff brothers putting the bomb in and an FBI guy adjusting it.
	The one I want is of the governor saying, you know, I haven't seen it.
	We hear there's a video.
	They tell me there's one.
	Exactly.
	Governor video.
	I haven't seen it yet.
	He hasn't seen it ever.
	What's the governor's name of Massachusetts?
	I think you're killing too much time on this.
	Let's go on.
	Okay.
	But anyway, like the Newtown, we weren't even allowed to hear the 911 tapes, which turned out to be pretty mild in retrospect.
	We played them.
	Yes, we played them.
	The few outlets that played the 911 tapes, and they were so bland.
	Yeah, one woman was...
	Oh, we can't play them because it's going to be terrible.
	Too shocking.
	Nobody would play them.
	And you play them, it's, yes, too shocking that nothing was going on.
	That was terrible.
	Yeah.
	So for some reason...
	Yeah, so the FBI, this is 60 minutes of this thing, FBI scanned 13,000 videos, 120,000 photos, and apparently they did find the magical, you know, money shot.
	However, we still have just not been allowed to see that, and the most telling part is that the governor of Massachusetts says, yeah, no, I haven't seen it.
	I'm told it's there.
	I know it's there.
	I mean, I trust them.
	Of course, they got them.
	Yeah.
	And so that is too rough for us to handle because it would shock us.
	Like those 911 tapes.
	Yeah.
	Yet CNN keeps repeating this footage where the journalist is killed.
	You see blood and people bleeding and yelling and screaming and crying and And they just repeat that over and over and over again.
	That can only be a form of...
	Well, it's a violation of human rights.
	You are being terrorized.
	Anyway.
	Another little section of the news that's not getting reported much, at least by the mainstream.
	It's getting reported overseas.
	And I'm the only one, actually, even on this show, that wants to keep up with it a little bit, since it's such a disaster, which is Libya.
	And, I mean, this country is about to complete...
	I'm sorry, did you just say you're the only one on this show who keeps up on that?
	Yeah.
	You don't, you let me do it.
	Oh, do you ever look at the show notes?
	Do you ever see any of the articles that I collect?
	It's alright.
	No, you're right.
	I never do anything on Libya.
	Fine.
	Anyway, this is the only show you're going to hear anything about Libya.
	And it will all be in the show notes.
	By the way, somebody called me out for not complimenting the show notes enough.
	That was you, wasn't it?
	Instead you tell me I don't care about Libya.
	It's like...
	He's got a number of, I know these are anonymous accounts, and they write me scathing notes.
	It's me.
	You do not compliment Adam for his show notes.
	I do.
	I'm constantly saying how great the show notes are.
	Pot of Yahoo.com says you don't compliment Adam on the show notes.
	You're not complimenting Adam.
	Alright, what do you want to do here?
	Which one do you want to play?
	I just want to keep people up on this.
	So let's play the two clips.
	I got one from Russia Today and then a follow-up clip from France 24 with the two separate reports.
	I think...
	This is one of our escapades to get rid of Gaddafi because he was going to start his own reserve currency, which is the basis of our thinking.
	The gold dinar.
	The gold dinar.
	And so we wipe the guy.
	And then we just say, screw it.
	We don't care because we're out of here.
	But deliver us from evil.
	Elsewhere, the UK has evacuated its citizens from Libya and closed its embassy in the capital, Tripoli.
	As violence rages between different militias, several countries, including Russia and the United States, have already shipped their workers out.
	Thousands of foreigners are fleeing Libya, many of them Egyptians.
	More than 200 people have been killed and fighting in the last two weeks.
	It's getting really bad, actually.
	Listen to this next report from France 24.
	Okay, hold on a second.
	I was just grabbing something.
	France 24.
	Now in Libya, heavy fighting continues to send thousands fleeing to neighboring countries.
	Our correspondents witnessed high-running tensions on the Tunisian border.
	They were able to produce the following report even after they were detained for five hours.
	Marine Cazales, Hamdi Tlili, and Sivan Silk have more.
	Confusion and panic at the Rajadir border crossing on Friday as a crowd tried to force its way out of Libya into Tunisia.
	Among them were Libyan nationals, but most were foreign workers, especially Egyptian.
	As frustration boiled over, gunshots sounded out from the Libyan side of the border.
	Tunisian security forces responded with warning shots of their own.
	Armed with buttons or guns, Tunisian soldiers, police and some civilians worked to push the crowd back.
	Tensions had been building at the border since the day before.
	Tunisia is desperate to avoid a repeat of the situation during the Libyan civil war of 2011 when tens of thousands of Libyan refugees streamed into the country.
	The violence that's gripping Libya and especially the city of Tripoli is sending both Libyans and migrant workers fleeing.
	On Friday evening, the Tunisian government called on all Tunisian nationals in Libya, who number between 50,000 and 80,000, to leave the country as soon as possible.
	At the same time, the foreign ministry warned it may be forced to close the border entirely.
	This report is very important for a number of reasons.
	One, it reminds me that we need to have more military gun sounds in the background.
	Yes, I think they're overdoing it.
	You need to have a little AK-47 action to remind people that you are reporting on a war.
	But also it's important for us to look back to 2011.
	I was living in Los Angeles at the time.
	This was a one-two punch of United Nations resolutions.
	The 1973 resolution was the one in particular that we...
	Because I never do anything on Libya on this show.
	No.
	You used to.
	We completely extracted the entire executive order.
	And I recall that it had a whole bunch of crap in there.
	And at the end of the resolution, it essentially said...
	But in the case of anything else, we reserve the right to do whatever we want to do, which is exactly what we did.
	We went in, we shot Hellfire missiles, we blew everybody up, we got this guy, Qaddafi, we got him, where did we get him?
	In a sewer.
	We said a sewer.
	As long as Iraq.
	Let me remind you of Hillary Clinton when she was delivered this great news.
	Now, everybody was hanging out with Gaddafi in the tent.
	Bush, Blair.
	Trump had him over.
	Trump had him with the tent in his backyard.
	Clint, everyone was hanging out with him.
	She hears about the news, and here we go.
	Unconfirmed.
	Yes, we came, we saw, he died.
	Oh yeah, fuck it, we killed him.
	Here is what President Obama said back in the day.
	I have these clips.
	I keep this stuff.
	I keep this stuff.
	There's not...
	These people are not to be trusted.
	No.
	Of course, there is no question that Libya and the world would be better off with Gaddafi out of power.
	How's that working out, Libya?
	How's that idea working out?
	I, along with many other world leaders, like Hillary, have embraced that goal.
	And will actively pursue it through non-military means.
	But broadening our military mission to include regime change would be a mistake.
	Yes, well, look how it is now, President Obama.
	It's a frickin' mess.
	It's so bad you are taking people out of the...
	The Germans are taking their people out of the embassy.
	Yeah, no, everyone's leaving.
	Yeah, the place is melting down.
	If the goal was to rebelize...
	Well, then they did.
	Yeah, well, then it was good.
	If that...
	Rebelize and start over.
	A lot of good jobs for American contractors when things calm down.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Rebuild, rebuild.
	It's a lot of money.
	Rebelize the place.
	That's it.
	That is the entire strategy in a nutshell.
	The strategy?
	Rubblize the place.
	Yeah, rubblize it.
	Well, good work.
	Fine, fine job.
	Well, it's not done yet, but they're getting there.
	Anyway, John, I'd like to thank you very much for your courage and say in the morning to you, John C. Dvorak.
	Are you going to say...
	You're actually saying in the morning to me?
	I am saying...
	Is there any other languages you can say that in?
	Coke Brothers!
	Are you ready yet?
	Do you have the spreadsheet open?
	Can you go in?
	I will tell!
	No, everything's ready to go.
	I was just wondering.
	Okay.
	So I want to say in the morning to you, Adam Curry, in the morning to all ships at sea, boots on the ground, subs in the water, and all the dames and knights out there, and the feet in the air, by the way.
	Yes, and in the morning to everyone in the shot room, noagendastream.com.
	We have a new URL for the stream.
	Which, if you have an app or something, you might want to incorporate that.
	Listen.noagendastream.com.
	That takes you directly to the stream.
	And it's one stream fits all, one size eats all.
	You get whatever you need and necessary.
	Listen.noagendastream.com.
	In the morning to our artists, thank you very much, 20 Watt Bulb, for coming in with a great piece of art for episode 639er.
	We're on show 640.
	Yeah.
	And I want to thank a few producers, executive producers.
	We came in very strong because we did have a poor showing in the morning and then everyone kind of came in later, which was good.
	Jim Lavin, Louisville, Texas, 750 bucks.
	I wanted to say that the mac and cheese karma worked for him.
	Oh, nice.
	After receiving some on show 590, a major tech publisher reached out to me and offered me a book deal six months later.
	And after several grueling edits, it'll be out on shelves at the end of August.
	I'm using some of the money from my advance to finish my knighthood.
	Oh, nice!
	Please knight me Sir Otaku of the Wooden Mash Paddle.
	We don't ask questions.
	If you're ever in the DFW area, let me know and I'll bring you some homebrew and barbecue.
	Please send me some more mac and cheese karma since I'm working on a second book deal.
	John, you're my idol.
	Oh wait, do that with your echo, man.
	John, you're my idol.
	And hopefully in the near future, my name might be as well known as yours when it comes to tech books.
	Well, you have to have an instant bestseller then.
	Jim Lavin, KF5SVR in Louisville, Texas.
	Jim, we'll catch you on 33 Charlie then, hopefully.
	Living the mac and cheese life.
	Mac and cheese by Ayn Rand.
	You've got Carmen.
	There you go, Jim.
	Thank you so much.
	Now, you did something new, John.
	I saw this in the newsletter.
	You came out with the big beast and the little beast.
	The big beast and the little beast.
	Explain.
	The mark of the beast is the key.
	The mark of the beast is the key.
	Yeah.
	And so we have some people that came with $666 and one got carried away at $0.66.
	So Sir Gerald Gionnet from Parts Unknown, it seems.
	Oh, no, he's in Canada, Canada.
	666.66.
	Thanks for all the hard work and time spent on producing the best podcast in the universe.
	It only gets better with this donation.
	I will be claiming the Baronet C of Southwestern Ontario, accounting under separate massage.
	All I ask is a simple noodle boy and karma to the No Agenda community.
	Now, a simple noodle boy, I think we only have one noodle boy.
	That's the noodle boy clip.
	There's no simple Noodle Boy, but I'll tell you what we can do.
	Let's give him a karma for the No Agenda community that he wishes upon us, and then do a Noodle Boy sometime during the show when it's appropriate.
	He wants to hear the Noodle Boy clip, I'm sure.
	Well, I have it here.
	If you want to hear it, we can play it right now.
	You want to play the whole thing now?
	Well, he's...
	He's a noodle boy.
	Well, like I described earlier, there are two fundamental classes that are just a plain fact in society.
	You either work for someone else, or you work for yourself.
	And most people work for someone else in a way that they aren't free.
	You don't really get to decide your work.
	For example, I work at Noodles, a restaurant, and basically it's a dictatorship there.
	We're told exactly what we're going to cook, how we're going to cook it, what time we're going to get there.
	And basically, if they don't like what they're doing, they try to tell us what to do if we don't listen to get rid of us.
	And so we're not able to actually cooperate in a way that we make decisions together.
	I try to convince my fellow employees that we should have a union at Google as a source of power to start with.
	And then I think in terms of the bigger picture, when you look at revolutions, the way that you actually get rid of any sort of dictatorship is by having workers take control Of the place where they work.
	Would your plan, your vision for noodles, would it include the owner?
	What capacity would he be granted?
	If the owner wanted to cooperate with us as an equal and provide his skills that he had, we would definitely cooperate with him.
	We would have to advocate his position as being an owner and controller of us and he would have to recognize that We run noodles together, and basically, if he doesn't want to collaborate with us, he's against us.
	You've got karma.
	I'm a rule follower, so if the rule is that we have to do it, then I'll do it.
	You know, I forgot, you know, we haven't played the Noodle Boy clip for a while, and every time I hear it, it always sounds like a slightly different clip.
	It's fascinating.
	I like what he says, if the owner of Noodles doesn't want to be with us, he's against us.
	That's my favorite part at the end there.
	Yeah, that's one of them.
	My favorite part is the cooperate and being told what to do is bad.
	He says we have to show up on time.
	Yeah, he says we have to show up on time.
	What a dictator.
	What is that all about?
	What a dictator.
	Unbelievable.
	I don't know, that clip is disturbing.
	Anonymous comes in from somewhere.
	It looks like he's in the army.
	666, no names please, just a little help from Distilla.
	Distilla.
	Some karma and a boom shakalaka would be nice.
	Oh, Distilla, yeah, okay.
	The most requested jingle of the day.
	Bingo, boom shakalaka!
	You've got karma.
	Thank you very much, the stilla.
	The stilla is the undercover one.
	He who was undercover in the Dutch language.
	Ah, Matthew Stevens in Fort Worth, Texas 666, the big beast.
	And he'll be a double.
	By the way, anyone contributing 666 becomes a double producer.
	I was going to say, does this go for some 6666ers as well?
	How does this work?
	No, no, just these guys.
	Oh, the triple, the 5-6, the true big mark of the big beast.
	Yes, true mark of the big beast.
	And what will their double credit say?
	What will that be?
	Yeah.
	You know, executive producer, and then executive producer for show 666.
	Ah, got it.
	Got it, got it, got it.
	You know, we've done this before.
	We do this once a year.
	Big, big.
	It's a special deal.
	Got it.
	So Matthew Stevens...
	And he will be knighted Sir Gadget Virtuoso today.
	Yeah, knight me Sir Gadget Virtuoso.
	Keep up the great reporting on the best podcasts in the universe.
	Sir...
	Gadget.
	Sir Andrew Largeman in Taipei City, 34567, one of my favorites.
	ITM is Sir Andrew Largeman from Taiwan, a.k.a.
	Gitmo Nation Bubble Tea.
	Bubble tea, if I'm not mistaken, is tea that's got these little things inside it, like bubbles.
	The latest donation is my attempt to match the ever-increasing entertainment value you guys provide twice a week.
	And also to request some karma for the southern city of Kaushon, where a series of gas explosions last Thursday shattered the city.
	The explosions were caused by propylene leaks in the underground pipes, ripping up propylene.
	That's interesting.
	Ripping apart the streets in a major business district.
	There's pictures of this mess.
	And causing two dozen deaths and hundreds of injuries.
	Is there a YouTube video I can point to?
	Well, you can find some good footage there.
	Also, please play my new favorite jingle, We Believe in Science, by Pocahontas.
	And an old favorite, Come On Up Kids, by Michelle Obama.
	I don't know if you can get that.
	Yeah, yeah.
	But what if I had both of them at my beck and call?
	We believe in science.
	Yes, here's a little one.
	You come on up.
	You've got karma.
	Nailed it!
	Yeah.
	Uh...
	I always thought that Terry Gu was Malaysian Chinese and he corrects me saying he's Taiwanese.
	I actually got the clip of that.
	Did you see the video of that explosion?
	Yeah.
	Insane.
	Yeah.
	How does that work?
	It ripped up.
	There were cars on the roof.
	It's a nasty explosion.
	But the entire street just ripped open like it was a big long stream of firecrackers went...
	There must have been a leak must have been going on for a while and accumulating it with the right oxygen ratio and it's things just...
	It's a real day wrecker.
	Sir Brian Ferguson in Foothill Ranch, California, 33333.
	I did an accounting.
	This donation makes me once, twice, three times a night.
	Did you ever sort out if a baronet was a little knight?
	No, the baronet is a little baron.
	So the baron superior...
	We got into a beef about that, and I was convinced for some reason.
	I don't know why I was thinking that the baronet was the next step, but it's the least is below baron.
	I know you always say Foothill Ranch as my location.
	That is my mailing address.
	If I'm a baron, I want to be the baron of Costa Mesa.
	This is where I spend most of my time.
	Give me a bad Sharpton and a boom shakalaka karma.
	There's no real conflict!
	Bingo!
	Boom boom shakalaka!
	Boom boom boom shakalaka!
	You've got karma.
	There you go.
	I never remember the Costa Mesa thing, but...
	Can you change anything on PayPal?
	It doesn't seem like it.
	Dale Thornton in Glenfield, New South Wales, Australia, $333.
	In the morning, John and Adam, it's been too long between donations.
	I can feel myself slowly slipping into douchebaggery.
	My last associate executive producer was back in show 292.
	Woo!
	When I pimp my rogue agent iPhone app, you may remember it.
	My VC pitch would be, it's like Instagram for media assassins with filter overlays of rifle scopes, UFOs, and explosions.
	Sounds good to me.
	Sounds on the money.
	This week I tried hitting my mate James in the mouth.
	He has a cool product on Kickstarter that I think is perfect for No Agenda producers.
	Having never heard of No Agenda before, it was a big ask for James to go from zero to hero and become an executive producer straight out of the bat.
	So to prove the power of the No Agenda producers, I would like to dedicate my 333 donation to James Douchebag.
	Yes.
	I don't think he gets the jingle, but he has a...
	The product is called Kickstarter Douchebag.
	He has a bag that says douche on it.
	Oh, okay, so he doesn't get a douchebag called it.
	So you carry the bag and people look at it and say, oh, that's a douchebag.
	Cute.
	Simply Google the term Kickstarter douche to find it.
	The douche bag is a rugged canvas duffel that converts it to a backpack with the word douche written down the sides in an elegant script.
	Wasn't this my idea instead of the 33 grocery bag?
	I said we should just have a bag with the word douche on it.
	Maybe.
	And you'd nixed it.
	Some guy's gonna become a millionaire on Kickstarter.
	That is my fault you didn't get it, Rich.
	I had the idea.
	Please help me hit my mate in the mouth and pledge to the douchebag on a kickstart.
	I'm sure a spike in sales would do the job.
	In turn, you can walk the streets sporting your new douchebag.
	And nod your head as you pass fellow douchebag carriers with a handy in the morning.
	Keep up the amazing work, Media Assassination.
	Love you guys.
	Oh my god, that is amazing!
	Perry Emsburger in New York City, 23333.
	Gentlemen, hello.
	This donation is in honor of my boyfriend Ryan's 30th birthday, which was on July 28th at 333 a.m.
	Hello.
	Hey.
	So this is another partner, female partner.
	Or any partner, for that matter.
	Eh, we don't know.
	Anyway, Ryan's been a long-time listener, so loyal, in fact, that getting him to leave the house on Sunday is close to impossible.
	You know you can record the show and listen in the car.
	As a podcast, as a concept.
	Yeah, it's a concept.
	Something to think about.
	At first I resisted listening along, happy to bury my head in the sand and walked blindly among the sheeple.
	Yeah.
	But now my eyes are wide open and it's all because of him.
	He's pretty much the best.
	And so are you guys.
	Please pay him a boom shakalaka laka and chemtrails for the big 3-0 and send him some job karma for his killer startup that's about to take off.
	A lot of startup people today.
	Yeah.
	And if you see him in the chat room, be sure to ask him about my spectacular ass.
	Lots of love and good vibes from Hoboken.
	Send pictures!
	Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
	Let's vote for jobs!
	My guess is that they're living in Hoboken is they're hipsters.
	Uh-huh.
	That's just a guess.
	Hot-ass hipsters from Hoboken.
	Hot-ass hipsters from Hoboken.
	Let's go to Carter.
	Hey, bunch of old dudes here!
	Carter Pelham, 20890.
	20890 in Huntsville, Alabama.
	Nice place.
	And now, of course, this thing here is like it's so long that I cannot read the first part of it.
	Long time boner, first time donor, donation of 20890 in celebration by sexy girlfriend Kirby Wallace's 24th birthday.
	Yes?
	Her birth date is...
	Okay, I got it.
	2nd of August?
	20890 or in European format because I'm a cheap bastard.
	Hope you can forgive me.
	Picture is attached for your viewing pleasure.
	I don't remember seeing it.
	I do agree she's way out of my league in several areas, notably that she is one who introduced me to the show in the first place.
	All right!
	Eric sent you the picture with the spreadsheet today.
	I'm remiss.
	I'll open it after we're done.
	Thanks for bringing together the best podcast in the universe.
	Incredible job deconstruction.
	Really complex issues that are either given nearly no airtime on the lamestream media or just pure propaganda.
	I think these are the kids who have sent me all kinds of common core research from the East Coast.
	Carter and his girlfriend, Kirby.
	That's what I think, yeah.
	He wants an air de-douching for himself, as well as a call-out for his friend Michael Kagan, not part of the Klan, unfortunately, for his ever-growing bonerism.
	So I guess he wants a douchebag for Michael.
	A douchebag!
	For Kirby, a remixed bingo boom shakalaka, JCD mac and cheese, and some much-needed birthday and school karma as she starts her Ph.D. program.
	Thanks, Carter.
	Now, he does have some extra notes we won't read on the air, but they all were...
	Well received and appreciated, as always.
	So, Bingo Boom Shakalaka Remix, a JCD Mac and Cheese, and Birthday and School Karma, and a de-douching all coming your way right now!
	You've been de-douched.
	You slaves can get used to mac and cheese.
	Mac and cheese.
	Cheap macaroni and cheap cheddar melted together.
	Mac and cheese. Mac and cheese. Mac and cheese.
	You've got karma. .
	And that is the executive producer segment for show 640.
	I want to thank these people profusely for helping us out on this show and also the people getting double producerships.
	That's cool.
	And I want to remind you that we do have another show coming up on Thursday and that you should go to Dvorak.org slash NA to continue the support.
	And will we have any more of this Mark of the Beast stuff or is that a one-time shot deal, one-time for this time only kind of thing?
	Oh, you're talking about the mini-beast?
	Yeah, the mini-beast?
	Mini-beast!
	I think the mini-beast thing, we're probably going to...
	The thing that we played was a little game to see who would get in first.
	I got you.
	I understand.
	And it got people to, you know, think about...
	Because a lot of people that get the newsletter, they go...
	And they say, I'll look at it again later.
	That's exactly how I... Well, that's...
	Yeah, but that is always the way...
	But when you see a cute kitten in a cardboard tank shooting Ebola viruses, I mean, how can you go wrong, really?
	I mean, that is the essence of the show right there.
	It's close to it.
	Because we're cute kittens, and we have a cardboard shotgun, so the effectiveness of all this is questionable.
	To keep people knowledgeable, I think, is the key to success in their own lives.
	These are actual credits.
	They are just as valid as the ones you might be, well, you probably would never, but that people get from Hollywood.
	No, but the only way they do is because they produced, executive produced or associate executive produced the product, which means pretty much financial support.
	So you can put these anywhere.
	Credits are accepted.
	And we highly appreciate that.
	We'll be thanking other people in our regular donation segment coming up in a little bit.
	And as John said, we have another show on Thursday.
	Please think of supporting us.
	And of course, we always need you to go out there and do the very important work of propagating our formula.
	Our formula is this.
	We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
	Fear is freedom.
	Subjugation is liberation.
	Contradiction is truth.
	Those are the facts of this world.
	And you will all surrender to them.
	You pigs in human clothing!
	Order! Order!
	Shut up, slave!
	Shut up, slave!
	Someone said I should put the marching guys under it.
	I, you know...
	I liked it.
	I liked it a lot.
	I think it really adds something to it.
	Well, maybe it should be part...
	Well, let's run it as a beta.
	I think this...
	Alpha or beta?
	It's a private beta.
	It's a beta.
	It's a real beta.
	And we'll do it for a few weeks and see what we think.
	See what we think.
	Like, we have anything to say.
	See what the feedback is.
	Exactly.
	I came across a very interesting little report on our national treasure, the NPR, which I'd like to play this report in its entirety because not only is it a big WTF moment when you hear this, but the way it's voiced, it's almost like this is a covert report.
	You won't believe what you...
	And this is NPR. This is what the elites of the world listen to.
	They do.
	Yeah, they do.
	And if you're sick of it, you let me know.
	And this is about, well, you'll hear what it's about.
	And it was just mind-boggling to me that this is reported this way, when you hear the people who have the facts in this case.
	And the whole piece was just very, very disturbing.
	Some might call it weird.
	For months now, U.S. officials have said that leaks from former NSA contractor Edward Snowden changed the way terrorists communicate.
	But they've stopped short of providing details.
	Now, a technology company in Cambridge, Massachusetts, says it's found tangible evidence that terrorist groups are using sophisticated encryption programs.
	And here's Deena Temple-Raston reporting.
	Okay, now just imagine now, we have terrorists who are using Skype.
	What was that other video program that no one had ever heard of?
	Yeah, right.
	When the first list came out?
	I can't remember.
	It was just a little chat or something.
	No one had ever heard of it.
	Yeah, it was weird.
	So, what?
	Odd, perhaps.
	Damn it.
	Mm-hmm.
	Okay, right there.
	The CEO of Big Data Company.
	Hold on a second.
	Recorded Futures?
	Hold on a second.
	Let me just grab this.
	I want to be known as a Big Data Company.
	Can we just be known as the big data company, no agenda?
	Yeah.
	I mean, what determines if you're a big data company, other than your own marketing?
	Massachusetts says it's found tangible evidence that terrorist groups are using sophisticated encryption programs.
	And Pearsena Temple-Raston reports.
	Here comes.
	The CEO of Big Data Company Recorded Future is a man named Christopher Albert.
	Do you hear how she's saying?
	Kind of like that.
	And she's talking like this.
	Kind of, yeah, because it's very secretive.
	He had heard the Obama administration say that terrorists had changed the way they behave because of the Snowden leaks.
	He wanted to see if it was really true.
	Yes, I wanted to get some air time.
	So we dove into that, sort of diving into forums and product platform releases and the like.
	They were banging into forums and product platform releases and the like.
	The company trolled the internet for Al-Qaeda mentions of Snowden.
	They trolled the internet for Al-Qaeda mentions of Snowden.
	Okay.
	This is reporting?
	They trolled the internet.
	Hey, hey, hey, let's troll it.
	It downloaded versions of Al-Qaeda's encryption software.
	Ooh!
	And it discovered signs that Al-Qaeda had changed.
	Specifically, it upgraded its encryption system.
	For years, Al-Qaeda had used an encryption program written by its own coders.
	We don't want that.
	The Al-Qaeda's own coders?
	No, that can't be any good.
	Have you seen these dudes that shoot in the air with their AK-47s?
	They can't be any good at encryption.
	The coders.
	They called it Mujahideen Secrets.
	Mujahideen Secrets.
	Am I supposed to believe this report?
	I don't know.
	It's Mujahideen secrets.
	And most Al-Qaeda affiliates used it to scramble their communication.
	I'm going to scramble my communication.
	Stand by for more Mujahideen secrets.
	Since its introduction in 2007, there had been some minor updates.
	Then, in late 2013, after the Snowden leaks, the program got a major overhaul.
	It's like the iPhone 6.
	Three different groups with links to Al Qaeda introduced three new encryption products.
	It was like jumping from Windows 2.0 to Windows XP. Whoa!
	I didn't know she was a tech expert.
	Hold on a second.
	Was there ever a Windows 2.0?
	I think it was the Windows 3.0 or Windows NT. No, there was a Windows 2.0.
	But the big jump was Windows 95.
	Right.
	Not Windows 2.0 to Windows XP. And excuse me, Microsoft...
	You're trying to make a point, Adam.
	You're just not getting it.
	It's like going from, you know, Mavericks to Yosemite.
	Oh, fuck.
	Hold on.
	I'm sorry.
	I went back way too far.
	My mistake.
	Yeah.
	I'm sorry.
	Scramble their eggs.
	Since its introduction in 2007, there had been some minor updates.
	Then, in late 2013, after the Snowden leaks, the program got a major overhaul.
	Three different groups with links to Al-Qaeda introduced three new encryption products.
	It was like jumping from Windows 2.0 to Windows XP. Allberg says that wasn't a coincidence.
	Three major product releases coming out of three different organizations under Al-Qaeda and associated organizations fairly quickly after the Snowden disclosures.
	Really?
	Hey, did you get a copy?
	Were you a beta tester, John?
	Any chance?
	Did you get a beta?
	You know, I'm now irked about this because I didn't get a copy.
	Alberg believed this amounted to good circumstantial evidence that Snowden had had an impact, but he wanted to see how much, so he called in a cyber expert.
	Ah!
	Cyber expert.
	My name is Mario Vuxen and I'm the CEO and the founder of Reversing Labs.
	Yes, I'm also Charmin.
	Reversing Labs is a cyber analysis company.
	Oh!
	How can you not make fun of this stupid woman?
	Cyber analysis company.
	And Voxun took the new Al-Qaeda encryption program apart to see what it was made of.
	Hold on.
	Can I have a screwdriver?
	I'm trying to take it apart to see what it's made of.
	This is for a company that professes to practice journalism.
	The way this is being reported on is not acceptable.
	It is 2014.
	There are people who, you don't have to go to cyber access.
	It is unacceptable the way you are.
	They took it apart in the garage.
	Oh, this is NPR. It's good.
	We put it up on the jacks.
	We looked underneath.
	We took the oil pan off.
	As a general matter, he says, encryption is fairly straightforward.
	So simple.
	So multiple mathematical algorithms have been developed to scramble this content into sort of random set of letters and numbers.
	Oh, really?
	I think he's not German, he's Russian.
	This random set of numbers, it is just like a code.
	So that only the target receiver would be able to...
	Wait a minute, what do you mean target receiver?
	What are we, target or receiver?
	Read it.
	In other words, someone might type a message in Arabic, then the encryption program turns it into random numbers and letters.
	Gobbledygook!
	Wow.
	That is not...
	Have you ever seen encryption?
	It does not turn into random words and letters.
	It turns it into a block of characters.
	Could be anything.
	There's lots of ways of doing it.
	You could use steganography, which is a photograph.
	You could use a simple replacement cipher.
	There's lots of ways to do it.
	She's generalizing.
	The recipient, on the other side, can unscramble the message with a key.
	We have now revealed the secret way Al-Qaeda uses encryption with a key.
	Vuxlan said the new version of Mujahideen's secrets is much better.
	The old program was built on code that Al-Qaeda created for itself.
	Stupid, stupid Al-Qaeda!
	The new version incorporates more sophisticated, open-source code, which means it's probably harder to break.
	Oh, please!
	Alright, I gotta shoot myself now.
	This is just unbelievable!
	The Mujahideen secret based on open source code, which means it's harder to break.
	This is not the work of some...
	Yeah, that's what she said.
	She's crazy!
	That's exactly what she said.
	It's harder to break.
	You know, listen to it, what she says here.
	...was built on code that Al-Qaeda created for itself.
	The new version incorporates more sophisticated, open source code, which means it's probably harder to break.
	Because open source?
	This is not the work of somebody who has learned the programming yesterday and is now trying to do their first, you know, Hello World application.
	Hello World, it's not some stupid, like, script kiddie who's just doing a Hello World application.
	This is like they've got a key.
	Ahmed, swallow the key!
	I cannot imagine that this is being developed in some cave in Afghanistan.
	Not in a fucking cave in Afghanistan!
	No, man, this is some real Silicon Valley shit!
	Where did you get this clip again?
	NPR. This is NPR, your national treasure.
	Allberg says wherever it was developed, the complexity and timing of the software upgrade is important.
	Okay, so this is not going to be used in Congress somewhere.
	Some douche knuckle is going to get up and say, well, we know that the Mujahideen secrets encryption code, which...
	No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
	It's Mike Rogers.
	It's got Mike Rogers written all over it.
	It's not just some douche knuckle.
	Mike douche knuckle Rogers.
	Yeah, Mike Rogers will come up with this one.
	Shaking a piece of paper.
	But the metaphors of...
	He, of course, invented the jihadi Disneyland.
	So he'll be like, we've got Mujahideen secrets being developed by coders in the jihadi Disneyland that is like going from Windows 2.0 to XP, thanks to Snowden.
	It's all Snowden's fault.
	I think they actually bring in Bruce Schneier at the end to legitimize this otherwise incredibly weak and pathetic and incomprehensible and just unjustifiable shoddy journalistic report.
	Well, let's face reality with this report.
	This report is planted.
	For the sole purpose of making it look as though something's changed when the NSA can crack whatever this code is.
	Mujahideen secrets.
	It may be their code.
	It's open source code.
	It's hard to crack.
	Yeah.
	You see that Kaiser Alexander has filed for...
	He's making a million dollars a month.
	But he's filed for nine patents with his new company.
	He's filed for nine patents?
	Yes.
	What was his background?
	A Star Trek groupie?
	Well, besides that, Keith Alexander, is he an inventor?
	Alexander insists that cybersecurity technology he's inventing now is distinct enough from his work at the NSA that he can file for new patents and reap all the benefits.
	He's stealing this stuff from the government.
	He probably developed these things while he was working there.
	But what's his...
	He's 62.
	Of course he developed it.
	Went to West Point, Boston University, U.S. Army Command.
	Naval Postgraduate School.
	You know what this is, don't you?
	This is very easy.
	This is his buyout.
	This is his way out.
	This is what he gets.
	This is just like Greenwald getting $250,000 over at the Freedom of the Press Foundation.
	Yeah, just shut up.
	Shut up.
	Go away, Kaiser.
	There's a lot of money.
	Just shut up and stay shut up.
	But I find his...
	By the way, the million dollar figure has apparently dropped to about 600,000.
	I don't believe any of it.
	There's no fact.
	There's no proof of these numbers.
	Yeah, it's just a big...
	And they've tried to do FOIA requests and the NSA and Kaiser Alexander all refuse to disclose anything.
	He's the Cyber King.
	Why has he got a Joint Chiefs of Staff identification badge when he was in the...
	He's not in the joint.
	That gets you into the executive washroom, I believe.
	Okay, that could be.
	Yeah.
	These medals and ribbons on these guys are just too gratuitous.
	I got a note about your story of Buzzkill Jr.'s phone drain when the president was in town.
	Yeah.
	Buskill Jr., I think that's who it was, was the proud victim of the unconstitutional use of an IMSI catcher, better known as a stingray.
	Oh, right, that thing.
	The Secret Service or whoever was working with them, local or state police departments, was gathering IMSI, ESN, and IMEI data of every user's phone in the effective range of the device.
	They were probably also tied into the telco databases so that they could see who owned every single phone.
	One of the first things the device does is force the phone into full power mode in order to gather the best signal from them.
	Everyone in the office should contact the EFF, especially Chris Shagoyan, He and a former federal judge by the name of Brian Owsley are going to legislatures all over the country and notifying them of law enforcement's use of these devices without warrants.
	Just like with GPS use, these devices should need probable cause warrants.
	The Supreme Court needs to rule on these things.
	They conduct a search within the private spaces of citizens.
	Remember the thermal imaging devices that got restricted?
	Same thing.
	This is from JSOC Dave.
	He's one of our true military industrial complex insiders.
	He knows all about this.
	That sounds right.
	Sounds right to me.
	And it would go like, hey JC, I've got this guy I talked about.
	You should talk to EFF about your thing being powered up like that because they're spying on you.
	So contact the EFF. And what will he say?
	Yeah, right.
	I'm a rule follower, so if the rule is that we have to do it, then I'll do it.
	You tell me he's not going to make a problem?
	He's not going to make waves?
	Probably not.
	Most of the millennials have given up.
	Yeah, this is unfortunately true.
	Yes, it's a fact.
	They just decided to become hipsters.
	They figured their own subculture will take care of itself when it gets old enough.
	That's...
	I don't know what else to tell you.
	Apparently the judges...
	And we have names here.
	James Zagel, FISA court member since 2008.
	And...
	I'm looking for the other name here.
	A couple of these.
	Judge Wright.
	Judge Roger Vinson.
	These are all FISA court judges.
	Have been purchasing stock in Verizon.
	And they do this at opportune moments when they come out with certain rulings and or approvals.
	You know, it's funny.
	I was doing the Horowitz show.
	I came into a bunch of inside trading going on at AT&T. So these guys are buying up their own stock, too.
	There's something up with the telecoms.
	Would make total sense.
	But what?
	Well, first of all, the fact that there's insider trading.
	Everyone who's on the inside is doing it.
	This is just based on what news will come out regarding...
	Well, I think this probably more has to do with the USA Freedom Act of 2014, which will compensate each telco for every single request that is now codified.
	It hasn't been passed yet.
	There's been tens of thousands of requests.
	Yeah, there's money.
	And so this is just going to be free money for these guys.
	Again, to shut up.
	It's hush money.
	That would seem like a pretty good deal.
	It has to be pretty substantial.
	You wouldn't be buying the stock for some nickel and dime stuff.
	No, you've got to have good stock.
	Well, one of the talk show guys was going on and on about the border issue thing going on with the southern states.
	Blah, blah, blah.
	And he mentioned that these correctional companies, GEO, Wackenhut.
	Wackenhut?
	Wackenhut.
	That sounds like a porn video company.
	Yeah.
	Have you ever heard of Wacken Hut?
	I thought I had, but if it's correctional facilities, no.
	No, there used to be a real estate investment trust that started buying a correctional facility.
	They're getting all this money from the government to house these kids.
	And the whole thing is just this, you know, a scam to keep these private prisons filled to capacity.
	Do you have a report on this?
	No, I got nothing.
	A lot of people say, hey, you haven't been talking about the border issue!
	Not much you're talking about.
	No, there isn't.
	I mean, I even question how bad it really is.
	It seems so opportune that all of a sudden this crisis erupted when President Obama...
	Threatened to sign his own immigration bill into law with his pen and his phone.
	I'm not even sure it's a big crisis or that it's changed any since a year ago.
	You're in Texas.
	You're down by the border.
	You're damn near in Mexico.
	Andale!
	I don't understand.
	To me, it's all propaganda.
	I really don't see...
	Everything's propaganda.
	I think we've come to that conclusion.
	Now, of course, we had the RDI report come out.
	Which was very disappointing to me.
	I thought that this was going to be some...
	Everyone was like, oh!
	In fact, that's exactly what it sounded like.
	And RDI, of course, stands for the Rendition, Detention, and Interrogation Network.
	And the Inspector General needed to...
	Also the torture report.
	Well, that's really what it was, the torture report.
	But what we found out in the...
	Well, we really don't have anything.
	There's an unclassified version, which is one page.
	This is what the shittisons get.
	Summary of report.
	Agency personnel improperly accessed Senate Select Committee on Intelligence Staff Files, that's SSCI, and records on the CIA-operated and maintained Rendition, Detention, and Interrogation Network, also known as RDI-NET, Potential violations include the Wiretap Act.
	I'll look these up for you.
	Computer Fraud and Abuse Act.
	And here it is.
	Five agency employees, two attorneys, and three information technology IT staff members named Ben improperly accessed or caused access to the SSCI majority staff shared drives on the RDI net.
	So that is the violation of And then there's agency crimes report.
	The agency filed a crimes report with the Department of Justice as required by Executive Order 12-333.
	This is the big one.
	That allows the agencies to actually spy on you and subjugates all these other...
	Yeah, no, it's a great rate.
	We've broken it down into pieces.
	Let's do whatever they want, essentially.
	Yeah, however, the factual basis for the referral was not supported.
	Lack of candor.
	This pissed me off.
	It's like there's just no respect whatsoever.
	So who are we going to blame?
	If you had to blame somebody, who would you blame?
	For the torture?
	No, for spying, for the clear violation of improperly accessing drives.
	Who are you going to accuse?
	Oh, but you have to accuse...
	What's his name?
	The head of the whole operation.
	No, no, no, no.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Is that Brennan or the other guy?
	Dude named Ben.
	Dude named Ben.
	The three IT staff members demonstrated a lack of candor about their activities.
	Yeah, dude named Ben.
	Dude named Ben.
	So, of course, it's the IT guys who are going to get burned on this one.
	No, there'll be some IT guy fired.
	Here is...
	Well, so here, of course, is the president's remark yesterday, which a lot of people really were surprised by his word usage.
	With respect to the larger point of the RDI report itself, even before I came into office, I was very clear that in the immediate aftermath of 9-11, we did some things that were wrong.
	We did a whole lot of things that were right, but we tortured some folks.
	Okay, so we tortured some folks, and I think on the show we have stumbled over, we have drawn attention to his use of the word folks before.
	From this very same news conference, he referred to folks a couple other times.
	So I'm trying to figure out, if we tortured some folks, who were these folks?
	Let's see, what other folks did we talk about during this same news conference?
	President, like that ceasefire, you've called for diplomatic solutions, not only in Israel and Gaza, but also in Ukraine, in Iraq, to very little effect so far.
	Has the United States of America lost its influence in the world?
	Have you lost yours?
	Yeah.
	Look, this is a common theme that folks bring up.
	Folks as reporters, maybe.
	Oh, maybe they're tortured.
	Well, if you go to these press conferences, you're genuinely torturing the reporters.
	There's no doubt about it.
	There is another folks that he, another example.
	I've got to play a torture clip.
	This is an example of him torturing.
	Play the Obama stammer.
	This is what he does constantly.
	This is indeed torturing reporters.
	I will, I will, hold on, guys.
	Come on.
	There's just...
	Who else is a folk?
	A student loan bill that would help...
	Folks who have...
	Students!
	Yeah, we tortured students.
	Well, they do torture students with these ridiculous student loans.
	Those students, when they graduate, they're deeply in debt.
	That's torture.
	So if this wasn't bad enough for him to say, we tortured some folks, which is where most soundbites stopped, if you even saw or heard it at all, I think he dug the hole much deeper after that.
	We did a whole lot of things that were right, but we tortured some folks.
	We did some things that were contrary to our values.
	Yeah?
	I understand why it happened.
	See, this is not okay.
	As a president, as the commander-in-chief, you cannot say, oh, I understand why it happened.
	Because what he is about to say now is setting the law enforcement agencies, every single civil servant up for doing things wrong because the president ultimately will understand why.
	I think it's important to...
	When we look back to recall how afraid people were.
	So if we're afraid, then we can torture people.
	After the Twin Towers fell and the Pentagon had been hit and the plane in Pennsylvania had fallen and people didn't...
	The plane in Pennsylvania had fallen.
	This is a new one to me.
	I've heard shot down.
	I've heard crash by terror.
	It just fell.
	And if the plane falls, you can torture folks.
	No.
	Whether more attacks were imminent.
	And there was enormous pressure.
	Pressure?
	Oh, we're under so much pressure.
	Time to torture some folks.
	On our law enforcement and our national security teams.
	Oh, and it's not just national security.
	Law enforcement can torture folks if they're under pressure.
	To try to deal with this.
	Oh, I can't deal with it.
	And, you know, it's important for us not to feel too sanctimonious.
	Sanctimonious.
	I like that word.
	It's one of my favorites.
	I don't use it enough myself.
	He is sanctimonious.
	Definition of sanctimonious.
	Making a show of being morally superior to other people.
	So we should not pretend to be better than Al-Qaeda, I guess, or folks who we tortured.
	Is that what I'm understanding, John?
	Is that essentially what he's saying?
	Well, go back.
	I've got to put it back in context because I'm not sure that's what he means.
	Hold on, let me just move back a couple more seconds here.
	This is very disturbing.
	It's important for us not to feel too sanctimonious in retrospect about the tough job that those folks had.
	Okay.
	The job was so tough that they had to torture people, but we should not make a show of being morally superior, because...
	Well, wait a minute.
	This is what his whole little spiel is about.
	When he said at the beginning, he says, well, you know, we torture some folks.
	This is not our values.
	And then he goes on and on.
	That was being sanctimonious right there, right?
	You would think.
	He's being sanctimonious with this speech.
	And now he's saying you shouldn't be.
	You shouldn't be.
	You know, I can't listen to this guy.
	As far as I'm concerned, the stammering clip is the clip.
	That, by the way, should be clip of the day, I might say.
	And I'm very annoyed that I didn't get it.
	But no, it's okay.
	You can be mean to me if you want.
	No, because I feel that I had a better clip of the day.
	Yeah, you know, I know.
	Which I have not played yet.
	Which I have not played yet.
	Oh, no.
	You had a really good clip at the beginning.
	I was borderline going to give you this clip of the day.
	The president's stammering.
	I was so stunned by it.
	Do you want a clip every single day?
	Every single show?
	You just play some stammering?
	Just playing some stammering?
	Are you kidding me?
	Okay.
	No, no, no.
	So what else does he say after sanctimonious?
	Well, don't be sanctimonious because apparently it's okay and it's understandable if you're under pressure and the plane falls from the sky to torture some folks.
	Yeah, it's against our values.
	We are taught this on television.
	Yes, it's understandable.
	It's on television.
	If you watch 24 or any of these cop shows, everything's short of doing some of the...
	There's a book people should get a hold of.
	It was written in the 30s.
	I can't remember the name of the author, but I read it.
	I took criminology when they used to have criminology at the University of California.
	And this is one of the books that was recommended.
	It's called The Third Degree.
	And it's about the torture techniques that were used by the New York Police Department.
	And it's very interesting.
	It's very educational.
	One of the top things I like to do is bring a dentist in and grind down a molar.
	Hey, you know, you grind it down, grind it down.
	Grind it down!
	But you know, when planes fall from the sky and there's a lot of pressure, we can't be sanctimonious about, you know, grinding down molars.
	What is your problem?
	Don't you understand?
	Sanctimonious in retrospect.
	Retrospect.
	About the tough job that those folks had.
	Yes.
	Now, who is the folks who were tortured had a tough job?
	I guess they're the folks.
	Maybe it's the students now.
	I don't know.
	And a lot of those folks were working hard under enormous pressure.
	I work hard under enormous pressure.
	The guy at the gas station works hard under enormous pressure.
	The woman at HEB at the checkout works hard under enormous pressure of being able to get home on time for the kids.
	But yet, she doesn't go around waterboarding her colleagues.
	Oh, I'm sorry.
	If you're a patriot, then it's okay.
	Fuck yeah.
	We did some things that were wrong.
	Oh, yeah.
	It's just wrong.
	And that's what that report reflects.
	Yeah.
	And that's the reason why after I took office, one of the first things I did was to ban some of the extraordinary interrogation techniques that are the subject of that report.
	Is that true?
	Did he do that?
	Yeah.
	In fact, this is what Hayden and his buddy, the head of counterintelligence, the threesome, the lawyer, Hayden, the head of the NSA and CIA during that era, and this other guy, this hard-ass kind of, I don't know what you'd call him, an operative.
	They...
	Bitched about this in that hearing.
	I remember.
	You're right.
	You're right.
	They bitched about Obama coming in and saying you can't do that.
	And then they bitched about the fact that they're going to be indicted.
	But the indictment seems to be slow in coming.
	Well, all of this, of course, is big cover for the real issue, which was the CIA spying on members of the Senate Intelligence Committee.
	Oh!
	I thought that you guys were going to ask me how I was going to spend my birthday.
	That's hilarious, Obama.
	That's really funny.
	Hold on, guys.
	Come on.
	There's just...
	On Brennan and the CIA, the RDI report has been transmitted.
	Transmitted.
	Transmitted.
	Do-do-do-do.
	Coming down on 40 meters.
	It's transmitting the RDI report, which we do not have an unclassified version of, of course.
	Declassified version that will be released.
	At the pleasure of the Senate committee.
	At the pleasure of the Senate committee, no less.
	I have full confidence in John Brennan.
	I think he has acknowledged and directly apologized to Senator Feinstein.
	Yeah, and this was kind of what she didn't get previously.
	She went on the House floor for 45 minutes, and I'll just play the first 30 seconds of her complaint.
	And the violations that were made under, violations of the Constitution...
	There was actually some legal violations.
	They could have thrown somebody in jail.
	I have grave concerns that the CIA's search may well have violated the separation of powers principles embodied in the United States Constitution, including the Speech and Debate Clause.
	It may have undermined the constitutional framework essential to effective congressional oversight of intelligence activities or any other government function.
	Now, when Mr.
	Brennenheimer...
	Was asked about this by Andrea Mitchell, wife of Goldfinger.
	Goldfarb.
	Goldfarb at the Council on Foreign Relations, the drinking club.
	Here's what he said about this very issue, which he was being accused of spying and violating the Constitution and, of course, possibly jailable offenses.
	As far as the allegations of CIA hacking into Senate computers, nothing could be further from the truth.
	We wouldn't do that.
	We wouldn't do that.
	Wouldn't happen at all, ever!
	I mean, that's just beyond the scope of reason.
	That would be sanctimonious, beyond the scope of reason!
	She says that there are potentially illegal and unconstitutional breaches by the CIA. Well, they're appropriate authorities right now, both inside of CIA as well as outside of CIA, are looking at what CIA officers and...
	Oh, this is crazy!
	And I will play one, I'm going to stop this here, but he just keeps on going saying, it's crazy!
	We don't do that kind of thing with the CIA! We don't do this!
	Don't sanctimonious talk!
	He started this, before the Q&A of this very speech at the Council on Foreign Relations, he started with this statement.
	Now, just over a year ago, I had the privilege of placing my hand on the very first printed copy of the Constitution.
	A draft edited and annotated personally by George Washington himself that is one of the most treasured items held in the National Archives.
	He's adding acidity and smudge to the document.
	He shouldn't have even touched that thing.
	With my hand on that document, Vice President Biden swore me in as the director of the Central Intelligence Agency.
	I chose to take my oath on that precious piece of history as a clear affirmation of what the Constitution means to all of us at the agency.
	Which is like toilet paper.
	We have no higher duty than to uphold and defend the rule of law as we strive every day to protect our fellow citizens.
	Like so many things involving CIA though, people read nefarious intentions into my decision to take my oath on an early draft of the Constitution that did not contain the Bill of Rights.
	Yeah, like, yeah, with the Fourth Amendment and all that stuff in there.
	Constitution's first ten amendments.
	So at the risk of disappointing any conspiracy theorists who might be here today, let me assure all of you that I, along with my CIA colleagues, firmly believe in and honor not only the Constitution, but also the Bill of Rights, as well as all subsequent amendments to our Constitution.
	You lying sack of crap.
	You do not, because you violated them.
	You violated specific elements of the Constitution.
	And you make a joke about it that you put your hand on a copy of the Constitution which did not include these elements.
	And you tell me I'm a conspiracy theorist.
	It's incredible.
	It's just really incredible.
	It's pretty funny.
	I find it highly amusing.
	Well, of course.
	I mean, obviously it's entertaining.
	It's very entertaining.
	Come on.
	And I just want at some point to say, well, of course, you know, we drone some folks.
	Because he's the guy.
	He's the guy that pulls the trigger.
	And Obama on their Tuesday death squad meetings...
	They determine who they're going to drone.
	Even I stopped counting.
	And it's pretty illegal from a lot of different perspectives.
	Yeah, but if you didn't put your hand on the Constitution, which had all that stuff in there, that annoying stuff.
	That's because he couldn't take a chance on it.
	He'd probably be religious.
	He used the Bible.
	Annoying, sanctimonious stuff.
	We can't have any of that, John.
	We can't have any of that.
	Alright, so let's change some gears here, and I used the word so, I shouldn't have used.
	I want to, we teased the, and I let you have it, I didn't care, you know, you can take it because you're the expert at this, and I will say that I didn't look at it, but you have an executive order that Obama apparently signed at the last minute before everybody went on vacation.
	Friday, yeah.
	Friday, you know, what time is it?
	It's five minutes to five, okay, let me do it at one minute to five.
	Hey, did those douchebags put out that billionaire report yet?
	I got one better.
	And so then they sign something that had to do with Ebola.
	You are now given the floor to explain.
	Oh, well, thank you.
	I thought maybe you would have a few more things on Ebola.
	I actually wanted to do it after our little break.
	No, I don't have anything new on Ebola.
	I think I pretty much cover what I think is going on.
	And I think that they're bringing...
	If you want to bring conspiracy stuff, the only reason I think that they're bringing...
	And by the way, everyone's talking about it going out of control.
	If it was going out of control, we'd have some exponential action.
	Oh, yeah.
	728 was the last number I saw.
	And they said, well, there may be another thousand cases here or there.
	It's not getting out of control.
	So they get the two people infected, the two Americans.
	They bring them for the first time.
	Well, not the first time.
	It was like an O.J. Simpson.
	They're following the ambulance down the highway.
	So they bring these two guys into Atlanta so they can draw their blood.
	Did you see the guy get out of the ambulance himself?
	Yeah.
	He just stepped out.
	Oh, give me a hand.
	Here's Sanjay Gupta.
	Of course, whenever there's an aircraft airliner disaster, you bring in Richard Quest, the aviation expert with certainly no pilot's license, but known to be most famously for being arrested in Washington Square Park with a dildo in his boot, with meth in his pocket, and a rope around his neck tied to his genitals.
	Which, by the way, I think is expertise in something.
	Yeah, but I guess it's some form of flying.
	So they bring in Sanjay Gupta.
	I like Sanjay.
	I think he's got a good wrap.
	I think he's got a clean face.
	He looks good.
	He looks the part.
	He looks serious.
	He's presentable.
	He has puppy dog eyes.
	He can do that.
	And also, he will don the suit.
	He'll put on the hazmat suit to go into the Ebola contaminated area.
	So he has some Geraldo aspects to him.
	He's a good guy.
	But when he's doing an OJ play-by-play, it kind of falls apart.
	Two people coming out of the ambulance in those suits.
	It is believed that one of those is Dr.
	Kent Brantley.
	What does that tell you, Sanjay?
	That is a good sign, medically, no question.
	A bit of a surprising one, Poppy, I'll tell you.
	We had heard some days ago that his condition had deteriorated, and then we heard that he may have stabilized but was still in serious condition, walking off the ambulance the way that he is, obviously, requiring a little bit of assistance from a medical standpoint.
	From a medical standpoint, he does not seem to be dying at this moment.
	It bodes very well for him.
	It bodes well for him that he's not dead.
	And frankly, it's a little surprising based on, I think, what...
	Based on what my producer told me to expect.
	Certainly, we were expecting what we had been told and how he had been described.
	We also just confirmed a little bit ago that even before he left Liberia, he was able to stand up and shower on his own.
	What?
	Where's my dead guy?
	I can just see the producer.
	Get me Liberia on the phone!
	You promised me a guy with Ebola.
	What are you sending me?
	Get casting!
	Shower and shower on his own.
	So perhaps he improved quite a bit before his flight actually here to the United States.
	Regardless, he is now here at Emory University Hospital.
	He is in an isolation ward.
	His condition was still being described as stable but serious.
	Stable but serious, but yet he just stepped out of the back of the ambulance.
	There's another discrepancy piece of information which needs to be mentioned.
	There was some talk, of course, this is these stories, there was some talk that they had some secret serum that they were going to, some sort of a cure, and they offered it to this guy, this guy here, and he says, no, no, give it to my assistant.
	But there's only one vial left, doctor, there's only one vial left.
	Give it to her, give it to her.
	Don't you remember this?
	No, I didn't hear this.
	This is great.
	Oh, yeah.
	Oh, brother.
	Wow.
	With everything, when we have a Hollywood moment like this, and I had Hollywood producers email me saying, I would have rejected this script.
	There's no way.
	Who came up with this?
	Who allowed this to pass?
	And if anything, Gupta needs to fire his agent.
	This is a shitty gig for Sanjay.
	And looking at these images, maybe he has improved even since that time.
	He is going to be in this isolation ward for some time.
	They're going to start replacing fluids, giving whatever treatments is necessary.
	The guy's puttering around in the open air?
	Well, he had a suit on.
	He had a bunny suit on.
	But he's getting...
	yeah did you see the pictures it's too funny so the ambulance stops in front of the ward and there's one guy in a hazmat suit standing at the back the rear entrance this is one of those box ambulances like the big box like a truck like a meatpacking truck well it's like a van yeah and the door opens and the guy jumps down but he and the the guy who's assisting just gives him a hand and he hops down off the back of the truck yeah This is not a guy dying.
	You mentioned Poppy, already en route to pick up one of his colleagues, also from Samaritan's Plus, and bring her back to the United States and Atlanta as well.
	You know, Poppy, I'll just tell you real quick, I know you've heard this, but what you're seeing here has never happened before.
	We've never had a paycheck.
	A guy jumped off a truck.
	...patient with Ebola in Atlanta, in the United States, in the Western Hemisphere of the world.
	So this is, from a medical standpoint, a scientific standpoint, certainly a first.
	And this is how it transpired, intentionally through a medical evacuation program.
	Yeah, I do have something on the vaccine here for you if you want to hear that.
	And again, non-essential travelers no longer go to West Africa.
	They talked about several different things, including a question that comes up quite a bit with regard to vaccines, some sort of treatment for patients with Ebola.
	And Dr.
	Frieden, who's the head of the CDC, said, look, he believes that's still a year away before something like that's approved.
	It doesn't mean things like that won't get used in an experimental, more compassionate use standpoint.
	Compassionate?
	Experimental compassionate.
	But the idea about having a vaccine available for sort of mass vaccinations, that's just not going to be available, he thinks, for at least a year or so, probably not during this particular outbreak.
	So there are lots of different considerations.
	They're sending more personnel on the ground.
	The CDC is 50 more personnel, they say, at least to try and stem the tide.
	And they reminded people that every outbreak in the past has ultimately been controlled.
	But this one's been really challenging.
	Yes, very, very challenging.
	And of course, the news media and the entertainment industrial complex loves jumping all over it for a number of reasons, which of course I have evidence of.
	NBC... With their fine news program, they really cut to the chase.
	If you want to view this Ebola, which you could say global warming, Ebola, AIDS, whatever it is, essentially all these things are going to be used as excuses to vote people off the island.
	The island being the good ship Mother Earth, and those of you who are too much will just have to go.
	The Centers for Disease Control now has people at about 20 places around the country where flights can come in.
	There's certainly no manifest of people coming out of dangerous areas.
	And people on the ground have been told to look out for certain symptoms.
	High fever, headache, sore throat weaknesses.
	People in the early stages look sick.
	And airlines are on the alert to call the herd.
	And if that's the case, not allow people to have international travel.
	Let's call the herd.
	Just say it.
	Just say it.
	We're culling the herd right now.
	And of course, this all really is to promote the TNT television program, which kicked off in June, which I guess is just not doing too well.
	Have you seen The Last Ship?
	Yeah, I saw the first episode, and then I didn't like it, but I just watched a little bit of the second episode, and then I stopped watching it completely.
	It's a piece of crap.
	I have the trailer, but since you think it's a piece of crap, we shouldn't play it.
	Oh, it's a total piece of crap.
	But I think we already ran...
	I don't remember playing...
	Yeah, I had a clip of the woman going on and on about, oh, you know, we got the virus and we got...
	It's me, they're after me, the Russians are after them.
	Yeah, you remember.
	So essentially there's a ship and the only people alive on Earth are on the ship and they're trying to get the vaccine to save everybody and it's about an outbreak and the president is dead.
	Everyone's dead.
	Except the ship.
	And the Russians that are after them.
	Of course.
	Why are the Russians after him, I don't know.
	We have all kinds of people who produce this program, all walks of life.
	John and I are pretty much jack-of-all-trades, expert in nothing.
	That's not true.
	Well, we're expert in a few things, but not necessarily in...
	You know all about the insert hole.
	Yeah.
	In a mixer.
	I do.
	I am very skilled in the insert hole in the mixer.
	But I don't think we are necessarily qualified in virology.
	We both are ham radio operators.
	We do have our tickets.
	You have to pass a test.
	You have to take a test.
	Actually, I used to have a third class phone.
	In the olden days of radio, when you had...
	I had an FCC license for radio broadcasting.
	Although I found it always disappointing that you essentially...
	I'm sorry, I used the word essentially.
	You filled out a...
	You're catching everything.
	Yes.
	Well, yes.
	I'm dropping the ball.
	You filled out a form, and you printed your own name on it, and then they sent that back with a stamp on it.
	But if I'd known, I would have printed it neater.
	Oh, that wasn't the case with my third-class phone.
	I passed the test and they sent a very nice certificate.
	If I could dig it up, I'd frame it.
	Very pretty, very official looking.
	Well, the point I'm getting to is that we have doctors, medical doctors.
	We also have doctors of dental medicine, veterinary medicine.
	We have all kinds of physicians.
	We have a lot of listeners and many of them are highly skilled.
	They are very, very skilled.
	And so we had this executive order come out.
	On Friday, and let me see, actually they called it something else, because the president no longer numbers his executive orders.
	Or was this a memorandum, perhaps?
	No, it is an executive order, but they don't give it numbers anymore, for some reason.
	Yeah, they stopped doing that, because the numbers are getting too ridiculous.
	Executive order, and this came out, actually it came out Friday morning, written on Thursday evening.
	Revised list of quarantinable communicable diseases.
	And the beginning here, by the authority vested in me as President, by the Constitution, the laws of the United States of America...
	It is hereby ordered as follows.
	Section 1, Amendment to Executive Order 13295, and then there's a replacement text for that executive order.
	This executive order that is being replaced, amended, and otherwise changed was an executive order from President Bush.
	And there is a noticeable change.
	And Dr.
	Jones, who is one of our producers, helped me analyze exactly what has been done here.
	And he uses some terms that even you brought up, which I hadn't heard before.
	So the changes are interesting.
	So this press release of 31st July 2014 references the 2003 Executive Order 13295 from George W. Bush.
	That particular executive order from 2003 added a blurb about SARS. So SARS had not been on the list at the time, and President Bush added that to the Communicable Diseases executive order.
	Interestingly, the 2003 order already included Ebola.
	You kind of wonder, what is this executive order about?
	What is its intent?
	What I found interesting is the 2003 order states Ebola as part of a list of VHFs.
	Now, I immediately thought, oh my goodness, we've got a repeater with a D-star, but no, viral hemorrhagic fevers.
	Did you not bring up the hemorrhagic fever on the other day?
	Yes.
	Do you want to tell me about the hemorrhagic fever?
	Is there something we need to know about that?
	There is a number of them.
	They come from the same family.
	Marburg is the other most notorious.
	And they tend to...
	They're weird because they go in...
	Are they of ungodly nature?
	Uncanny?
	Are they out of this world?
	Okay, they are odd in that they go and they bust up the cells in such a way that you start to bleed internally, and often your skin breaks out with lesions, and you start bleeding there, and eventually you bleed through your eyes and your ears and your mouth.
	Nice, nice.
	The eye bleeding is the one that's the...
	That's a good one.
	Bleeding from the eyes, okay.
	Yeah, someone bleeding from their eyes is not good.
	Now, of note of that list...
	In other words, you're hemorrhaging...
	Yes, through the eyes.
	The list is open-ended and allows for quarantine of any other viral hemorrhagic fever, quote, not yet isolated or named.
	Now remember, Ebola is already on the list.
	Was the word, not yet isolated or made?
	Named.
	Named.
	Named?
	Named.
	Named.
	Given a name.
	They didn't put made in there?
	No.
	Maybe it was just a dyslexic moment, and they meant made.
	But it says named.
	Appreciate that the 2003 order added SARS, but the language of that executive order specifically exempted influenza.
	Again, this executive order is about...
	Well, I'm going to get to the money shot in a moment.
	So influenza was removed, but then in 2005...
	President Bush amended Executive Order 13295 with 13375 and added a Section C, which has not been changed.
	Our President Obama has only changed Section B.
	So Section C remains intact, which included so-called influenza viruses that cause or have the potential to cause a pandemic.
	And then, of course, a few years later, we got the H1N1 with a Level 6 pandemic, which was with changed rules of what a pandemic was.
	Just coincidence, I'm sure.
	The new Executive Order 2014 makes no reference to Section C, so that remains in place.
	Yes.
	It excises the SARS language from Section B to make application of the quarantine broader.
	So the executive order is about quarantine, apprehension, and detention.
	So the dude from Newsweek should get ready to write a whole new article because here it comes.
	So you may feel relieved that the influenza exception has been removed, as President Obama has done, but Section C from 2005 is still in effect, which means also influenza viruses that cause or have the potential to cause a pandemic remain in place.
	Which will be every new one.
	Yes.
	The purpose of that, of C, and this new order is, and I quote, specifying certain communicable diseases for regulations providing for the apprehension, detention, or conditional release of individuals to prevent the introduction, transmission, or spread of suspected communicable diseases.
	I think the...
	Obviously you think, oh, they're going to throw us in FEMA camps, apprehension, detention.
	But the release is what I think is interesting.
	And if you had a whole bunch of illegals in San Antonio, and they might have dengue fever or something else, maybe you'd want to release them under this executive order.
	That's the new word here.
	Conditional release to prevent the introduction, transmission, or spread of suspected communicable diseases.
	I gotta read this myself now.
	This doesn't sound right.
	There it is, my brother.
	Yeah, sure.
	Alright, well I'm disappointed in this analysis.
	Why?
	Because I just don't buy into the...
	You're suggesting...
	That they would take a bunch of guys like these characters coming across the border that supposedly have one thing or another.
	Let's say non-type tuberculosis, which by the way, they track these people down.
	Let's step back one second.
	Let us agree that this Ebola scare is just a media scare and it's hype and it's bullcrap.
	Do we agree on that?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	But it's not as though it's not a dry run for something potentially bigger.
	But everything is a dry run for something potentially bigger.
	Not everything.
	Of course everything is.
	Well, I'm not as pessimistic as you are.
	I think a lot of things are just accidental.
	Screw ups.
	Well, you can go and analyze whatever you want.
	Well, I'm just saying, I just don't, I'm not, I'm not, I'm disappointed.
	I don't think that that's what it was about.
	I don't know what it was about.
	It just, maybe it was just a throwaway, but I'm very suspicious the way you were, because it's such a last minute thing.
	What was the point of that?
	Well, this is the, this is the, this is the border issue.
	This is the, this is, this is the solution to that problem.
	Alright.
	Well, you're going to have to...
	Okay.
	Well...
	I'm sorry.
	I mean, you wanted me to crackpot that we're all going to FEMA camps.
	That's a given!
	We don't need executive...
	There's no FEMA camps.
	We don't need executive orders for that.
	We know where the FEMA camps are.
	We know I'm in Region 6, you're in Region 9.
	We know we're going.
	There's no camps around here.
	They're going to have too much trouble moving anyone out.
	They'll just as soon kill everyone.
	Which may be the release part of the creation.
	I did get a nice note from our...
	You got a lot of feedback, actually, on your negative population growth...
	Analysis.
	Yeah.
	These guys are still around.
	Oh, yeah.
	But I found some interesting things out.
	This is from, remember the guy who sent us the copy of the scrap paper for the Common Core test, which had a barcode on it?
	Right.
	He says, after hearing John's interesting and your discussion on the scare of population explosion, I thought you might be interested to hear about this non-profit group that contacted me not too long ago.
	As you know, I'm a 7th grade social studies teacher.
	I sent you the email about the barcode scratch paper.
	Well, in my school mail, I got a letter from a non-profit named the Negative Population Growth Foundation soliciting to me free resources to help me teach my students about the apocalyptic world they were going to be growing up in because of population growth.
	Of course, I responded right away and got every free resource they were offering.
	Yeah.
	NPG.org, John.
	This is where you want to be.
	NPG.org.
	And these guys have been around since 1972.
	1972.
	These are the original people.
	Yeah, these are the guys.
	NPG.org.
	And if you look at the resources, they have the 2014 Student Fact Sheet.
	Which is kind of fun.
	If you just click on that one, you can...
	I'm looking for resources.
	I don't see it.
	At the top of the page...
	It says home, what NPR... Oh, I see.
	You have to drop down.
	Yeah, I'm sorry.
	Yeah.
	For educators.
	Yeah.
	Introduction to students.
	Why population matters to you.
	Request a teacher's packet.
	Essentially, here, what you can do.
	Here we go.
	Who's paying for this operation?
	Well, that is not easy to find.
	I could not find...
	You never can, but you could become a member and understand.
	We'd have to really...
	I don't want to find out.
	Dig deep, but...
	I did get from...
	You're in Alexandria.
	Oh yeah, of course.
	Virginia.
	You were talking about the...
	Who was the guy, the main guy of the population bomb?
	Was that Ehrlich?
	Ehrlich.
	So who wrote a paper with Paul Ehrlich in 1974?
	I'm bringing up a scan of that paper now, which of course you can find in the show notes.
	Human population and the global environment, population growth, rising per capita, material consumption, and disruptive technologies have made civilization a global ecological force.
	The dangerous misconceptions appear to be widespread amongst decision makers and others with responsibilities related to population growth.
	We and others have dealt at length with the third misconception, which is the science and technology can make possible the long continuation of rapid growth in civilization's consumption of natural resources.
	And we've been dealing with this.
	In this paper, we argue that environmental deterioration is a much more subtle, pervasive, and dangerous phenomenon than is implied by the narrow view of pollution.
	We show further that population size and the rate of population growth in rich countries as well as in poor ones have been and continue to be important contributing factors to the generation of environmental disruption.
	Written by Paul R. Ehrlich and John P. Holdren.
	Who?
	John P. Holdren.
	John P. Holder?
	Holdren.
	Holdren?
	John P. Holdren, born March for... Holdren.
	Senior advisor to President Barack Obama on science and technology issues through his role as assistant to the president for science and technology.
	That would be clip of the day.
	Director of the White House Office of Science and Technology Policy and co-chair of the President's Council of Advisors on Science and Technology.
	Previously, he was the Teresa and John Heinz Professor at the Environmental Policy at the Kennedy School.
	Could you have more?
	Just a conspiracy theorist.
	Yes, I know.
	I'm sorry.
	I'm sorry.
	I'm trying to stitch together Watermelon Head Carey, the Kennedy School, the population explosion growth, negative population growth, eugenesis a-hole people.
	You've got to describe correctly.
	Yeah.
	Uh, it's...
	You've got to think that...
	No, I know.
	This is ridiculous.
	It's just stupid.
	These same people...
	And they're still around.
	They worm their way into these operations.
	They give themselves away if anyone wants to do some research on it.
	But the early guy...
	That guy's a big phony.
	But Aldrin wrote this paper with him in 1974.
	Yeah, and he's working for Obama, sure.
	What a coincidence.
	Yeah.
	I'm going to show my soul by donating to No Agenda.
	Imagine all the people who could do that.
	Oh yeah, that'd be fab.
	Yeah, on No Agenda.
	In the morning.
	Let the culling begin.
	Let the culling begin.
	The culling, the hulling, and the culling.
	The hulling if you're into...
	nuts.
	Let the culling begin.
	Kyle Bandy, we want to thank a few people that helped us out on show 640 and also the participants in the contest.
	Kyle Bandy, by the way, we'll start off with him, $125.92.
	He's starting law school at the Indiana University School of Law, one of the offshoots, I guess.
	And he needs karma.
	We'll put some at the end for you.
	Kyle Nicolo in Carrboro, North Carolina, $123.45.
	One, two, three, four, five.
	One of my personal favorites of donation amounts.
	Aaron Wilbers, $100.33.
	Long time listener, drunk, giving away more money since I gave you, since like the 13 bucks a long time ago, needs some fuck cancer karma, so we have to throw that in because we do that.
	Yeah, I'll put that in.
	Screw so-and-so and da-da-da.
	Anyway.
	He sounds unhappy.
	That's commentary.
	He's drunk.
	When you're drunk, you can do weird stuff.
	You're just drunk.
	To make a night and 30 years at this pace.
	The cancer crime would be at the end, too.
	We'll add it on there.
	Sir Mac Tank, La Jolla, California.
	$99.99.
	Oh, that's right.
	I should have done a niner-niner.
	I was a little off on that.
	Here we go.
	Niner!
	Well, while you're at it, Norman Pearson III in Macon, Georgia.
	Oh, no.
	999.
	Okay, well, he got it twice.
	He already got it.
	We did it.
	I put it away.
	I've packed it in.
	This is interesting.
	Three months ago, I hit my wife Tina in the mouth.
	She said no donations in her name until she would miss the show if it was gone.
	Two episodes later, she said donate.
	Huh.
	Eric Wells sent in a note.
	He's in it.
	8414.
	He's got a birthday coming up.
	Oh, spilled coffee all over his note.
	Oh, no.
	I thought you were drinking tea.
	This is not his note.
	Where's Wells' note?
	This is terrible.
	Anyway, we have to go.
	I know you hate it every time I do this.
	You have to go to the printer?
	I have to go to the desk.
	That's okay.
	Phil.
	Phil.
	Oh, okay.
	Yes, I know what I can do.
	We always have Phil.
	I wasn't preparing for the film.
	I'm really bad now.
	Here we go.
	Beta.
	all right Are you back?
	Well, I feel bad about this.
	Because I put it aside and now it seems to have been missing in action.
	I can't read the notice.
	It does have to do with his birthday that's coming up.
	And we'll give him a birthday shout-out.
	But there was something special about his birthday.
	I wanted to read.
	And was this a handwritten note that came in with a check?
	Yes.
	Okay, then I can't help.
	Wait a minute.
	This is it.
	Okay.
	This is interesting.
	Yeah.
	Super.
	The donation is 8414 on a birthday donation for myself.
	If you should subtract the amount, he's got some numerology in there.
	Okay, whatever.
	He misses cranky geeks.
	I'm sorry.
	Just give him a birthday shout out.
	Yeah, he's in Jefferson, Georgia.
	Brian Hastie.
	Hudson, Wisconsin.
	Time to finally donate.
	He's a KD9BVE. Hey, we inspired him to get his amateur radio license.
	Yeah, a lot of these guys get carried away.
	7333 there on the numbers.
	Hitting the buttons.
	Thank you very much.
	Sir Bernie Atima in Hinton, Iowa.
	6789.
	Sir Anatoly Necheyev, I believe.
	The Knight of Gorky.
	This is another drunk donation for playing a clip of Tropic Thunder.
	Favorite spoof movie, 6666.
	Also, Guillermo Prieto Alonso came in at 6666 from Madrid.
	And I sent him a note because he sent it 6666 just as I started the contest.
	Oh, really?
	Yeah, it was pretty funny.
	It was a coincidence.
	His note came in just as the contested.
	Tice Browers, obviously, in Holland, 66-66.
	In Deventer.
	People like this.
	They like the Mini-6.
	The Mini-Beast.
	Deventer.
	Well, here's the Mini-Beast.
	It's actually 66-60.
	And here are all the people that came in with that.
	Lots of them.
	And I'll go over all of them, and then I'll announce the winners of the contest.
	The first ones that come in with the 60-60.
	That's right.
	66-60.
	And that's according to the PayPal timestamp.
	Yes.
	Yes.
	Joshua Papp in Reservoir, Victoria, Australia.
	John Cruz in Lakewood, Colorado.
	John Holler in Missoula, Montana.
	Scott Waldhair in Rhinelander, Wisconsin.
	Chad Inman in Los Angeles, California.
	Richard Chow in Fullerton, California.
	Joshua Dilsiver in Springfield, Missouri.
	Francine Hardaway in Half Moon Bay, California.
	I didn't know Francine was in, Dame Francine, I didn't know she was in Half Moon Bay.
	Yeah, she's right up the road from you.
	What am I thinking?
	Jacob Duhlman in South Milwaukee, Wisconsin.
	Sam Leung in Toronto, Ontario.
	Crash EMT, Herndon, Virginia.
	Sir Hank in Kew Gardens, New York.
	Brian Leslie in Bremerton, Washington.
	Richard Henderson, New Westminster, BC.
	Keith Edwards in Gilbert, Arizona.
	A lot of people.
	Baronet Nate Wilson in Charleston, South Carolina.
	And Jason Daniels in Dallas, street from you.
	Sir John Johnson Jr.
	in Troy.
	And Mickey Keck in Wyoming.
	And then Sir D.H. Slammer.
	Sir D.H. Slammer, of course.
	So the winners...
	Turn out to be a tie!
	Explain the contest again.
	The contest was whoever came in with the first 66-60 would win a call-out, which is what we're doing now.
	And it would be just something fun to do.
	It's a summertime...
	A summertime gimmick.
	Promotion.
	But people love promotion.
	People love these contests.
	So we got two people that came in at exactly 2.30 on the money.
	Because there's no seconds timer, so I have to give them a time.
	Okay, all right.
	So one of them is Computer Systems Solutions, CSS, Computer Solutions Systems, I guess.
	They came in at 2.30.
	And then D.H. Slammer, otherwise known as Ryan Gilo, came in at 2.30.
	And then I think I told Mickey Keck that he'd won, but I may be wrong.
	I may have told Ryan, whatever the case.
	Mickey came in...
	Actually, second, but third, because there were two first-placers, nobody, and he'd be in third.
	No second places.
	And he came in at 231.
	So Mickey came in one minute after the other two guys, and then after that it was 2.37.
	There was nobody close to these three.
	So what you're saying is it pays off to, A, make sure you get the newsletter, because if it's going to spam, make sure you get the newsletter, and be on the lookout for it.
	You know what days it comes out.
	Comes out on Saturday.
	And you can win valuable prizes.
	Now, I haven't gotten to the valuable prizes yet, but it's a good test.
	I'll probably try it again next Saturday.
	I'm not going to do it on Thursday because too many people get their newsletter at work.
	Oh, right, yeah.
	And so I'm not going to, you know, push my luck on that.
	But I think the next week we'll do another one, see what happens.
	Anyway, I want to thank all the people who took part.
	Anatoly Nachaev, again, 5555.
	Anonymous in Rochester, New York, Mark Montgomery in Mississauga, Ontario.
	What about the red one?
	The red one.
	Oh, he wants to call out...
	Pedro.
	Douchebag, Hugo...
	Pedro Gonzalez, yeah.
	Sorry.
	Is this Pedro Conalves?
	Conalves?
	In Lisboa?
	It would be Gonzalez.
	Let's call out Hugo Pinto, a.k.a.
	Cristo.
	Gonzales.
	As a douchebag.
	A douchebag!
	Let's call it Hugo Pinto as a douchebag, a.k.a.
	Cristo.
	Sorry, I messed that up.
	Anonymous in Rochester, New York.
	Mark Montgomery in Mississauga, Ontario.
	He's got a birthday.
	We got it on there.
	Kevin Hine in Auckland.
	Double nickels on the dime.
	Stephen McConnell in Cortland, Ohio.
	Eric Hochul in Berlin, Deutschland.
	$52.
	Brian Edelan.
	In Myrtle Beach, South Carolina.
	Great place.
	Eric Bruhn in West St.
	Paul, Minnesota.
	Kirk Daniels, Hendersonville, North Carolina.
	And then these are all $50 ones including Kirk.
	Stephen Milliken in Corpus Christi.
	Sir Greg Brunsel in Kenosha.
	And Sir Brett Farrell in Oklahoma City, and that concludes our list of helpers that gave us contributions for show 640, and it includes the mini-monsters.
	Apparently, CSS is DH Slammer I just received on email.
	Does that screw up anything?
	DH Slammer and CSS are both...
	It's the same person, same...
	Well, I'm looking.
	I have to go back and look at this, and I may have to do a correction.
	But I don't...
	I think the way it came in...
	I think you need to publish the rules and regulations of your contest, so...
	You're always bugging me about this stuff.
	Let me take a look.
	Hold on a second.
	Alright, you take a look.
	I'll tell you what, we'll have this straightened out.
	The way I have it is Ryan got one, so DH Slammer and CSS are the same?
	Well, I just got an email.
	Okay, well then there's a missing person I have to add to the, we'll give them a special call out if this is true.
	On the Thursday show.
	So hang in there, listen to the Thursday show, and you'll get mentioned.
	Yes.
	I'll do an audit.
	And publish the results of the audit for transparency.
	I actually outpublish the results of the audit in the next newsletter, so that's another bonus.
	Great idea.
	Well, we will be doing a program on Thursday.
	The only way we can continue to do this type of analysis and give you the content that you like is by giving you, and the value that you like, clearly, is by you providing us the value back.
	Thank you very much.
	Of course, everyone under the $50, a lot of them for anonymity reasons and a lot on our ongoing programs.
	If you have a 3333 and you've been going for a while, you don't have a podcast license, drop me an email.
	Dvorak.org slash N-A Perry Ansberger says happy birthday to boyfriend Ryan turned 30 on July 28th.
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	And Eric Wells, did we do Eric Wells?
	I have Eric Wells, who was he congratulating?
	I'm self.
	Congratulating himself.
	And we'll join in.
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	Sir Brian Ferguson becomes a baron and claims the barony of Costa Mesa.
	A fine little barony.
	That shall be reflected on our peerage map, itn.im.
	Sir Gerald Gionette becomes a baron and claims southwestern Ontario in Scandinavia.
	This is important that these protectorates are codified, and they are codified in our peerage map, for we know that at some point an anthropologist will come across this information.
	And your great, great, great relative somewhere down the road will get a big chunk of land for free.
	Yeah.
	Because it'll be shown that this was your property.
	History books.
	Books will be written.
	Well, at one point, we do know that all of the United States was run by this guy, David Foley.
	And Belgium and France, the elites of the EU, was run by Sir Grand Duke Sir Baron von Pelsmacher.
	Grand Duke von Pelsmacher.
	And it will be fact.
	Yeah.
	We're hoping a German gets to Germany pretty soon.
	Three nightings to do today.
	People have been saving up.
	It's always nice to see that.
	You can grab your blade real quick there, John.
	I appreciate that.
	Thank you.
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	Oh, I'm sorry.
	I didn't do the karma and all that stuff.
	Oh, yeah, the karma.
	I'm so bad.
	I'm sorry, Ben.
	Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
	Let's vote for jobs.
	Yay!
	Sorry, I almost missed it.
	Got it.
	Yeah, it happens.
	So we have a couple of oddball things going on.
	This is the one that actually ruined my week.
	Oh?
	I've lost pretty much a lot of respect now.
	Although we did have that story and Van Kat had the story about the canned wine as though it was something new when it's not.
	The canned wine in France has been around for a long time.
	But this is the one that really got me.
	The clip is Respect for France and its Cuisine Part 1 or just no part number but that's the one played.
	We're in northern France in the small commune of De Vise.
	Nicolas Terrain is an organic market gardener and has great instinct.
	He recently devoted a small plot of his land to a vegetable that's proving quite the thing in Paris.
	Kale.
	A member of the cabbage family with exceptional nutritional value.
	Americans have made this leafy cabbage their must-have superfood and it's becoming increasingly well-known in France.
	It's the must-have superfood!
	I had a clip from one of the food conferences of agriculture, and they said the kale numbers are so minor, it's not even anything.
	And then when you listen to part two of the clip, it makes it sound as though this is a course of public relations out of England, I might add, have been promoting the kale as a superfood.
	As a superfood for suckers, it's a depression food.
	It's inedible.
	The French are cooking it with a bunch of other stuff to make it so you can choke it down.
	Wouldn't the trifecta, wouldn't the ultimate be mac and cheese with kale garnish?
	Oh, don't even break that out.
	The first person to find and to photograph and send us a picture of a combo meal, mac and cheese with kale, will win valuable prizes.
	So play part two and we'll get data here.
	It's different from a cabbage, which is boar-shaped and has leaves that fold over and over to form the ball.
	With kale, the leaves grow in the opposite fashion.
	And red leaves regrow after picking, so you can get sow a harvest from one plant.
	There are various varieties.
	There's green kale and also a number of purple varieties.
	Purple kale!
	This season runs from September through to March.
	Some parts of France have been growing it for some time.
	Yet French consumers aren't used to seeing it on the market stalls.
	Nicolas hadn't even heard of it two years ago.
	In fact, he discovered it by chance when he was trying out new vegetables.
	I had ordered some plants, some seeds, and I started to grow them.
	I wasn't even that sure what it would look like.
	And when I saw it, I thought, what on earth is this?
	And I was actually quite uncertain as to how I was going to sell it.
	His clients are from in and around Paris.
	He initially targeted expatriates who were familiar with kale from their home country.
	And this is how Nicolas met a certain Kristen Bedard, originally from Pittsburgh, who just started a blog called The Kale Project to promote this miraculous cabbage in France.
	She was an American lady who had been looking for it in France for some time, and she came across it on my store and began buying from me.
	She told me that it was extremely popular in the United States, that it was highly fashionable, and that they called it kale.
	Wow, John.
	I can see where this hurt you.
	It did, deeply.
	Now, the thing that's weird about this guy and his kale is that he's got the stalks.
	It's like the kale comes up out of the ground in a long tree-like thing.
	It's about three feet high.
	Oh, really?
	And then the ball is at the top, the ball of...
	The kale ball.
	Kale ball.
	And that's weird.
	And I don't know how he's getting to do that, but then he pulls leaves off of it and wraps them up and sells them for some overpriced, whatever the gyp rate is.
	Kale is the most expensive vegetable in the world.
	This is the biggest scam I've ever seen.
	And?
	We're not in it.
	That's the problem with the scam.
	I need to get you out on a high note because you're really depressed about this and I can understand.
	That's not okay.
	I get it.
	I'm very, very sad for you.
	So I would like to take us out with some fun stuff.
	First, I'll bring you down a little bit further with the president.
	Clearly with words of war, John.
	And of course, this is all about...
	Putin!
	With respect to Ukraine, I think that we have done everything that we can to support the Ukrainian government and to deter Russia from moving further into Ukraine.
	Short of going to war.
	What?
	There are going to be some constraints in terms of what we can do.
	Short of going to war?
	Yeah, I heard that clip too.
	Very sketchy thing to say.
	Short of going to war, there's some other things we can do.
	If I'm just looking at the language, that kind of means that's what we can do next.
	Which, of course, is not...
	Yeah, that's what we want.
	Well, I would say that we are at war with Russia.
	We are at an economic war.
	Just because we're not shooting or dropping bombs, we are...
	Well, sanctions are an act of war, as far as I'm concerned.
	I agree with you, and on the Matt and Marie show, my hero, Matt Lee from Associated Press...
	The Lou Grant of our age and Marie the band camp girl who is just she needs to be fired for what she says here if you have Any realistic expectation that this latest round is actually going to do what you say you want it to do?
	Well, I mean, the point here is to continue upping the pressure and increasingly squeezing them economically so that President Putin will make the right decision here.
	But if he doesn't, we will continue putting the pressure on him.
	I mean, look, the fact that even before yesterday, nearly $100 billion in capital was expected to flee Russia.
	At some point, I think the Russian citizens are going to be pretty unhappy that because of his actions in the region and other countries, their economy is tanking.
	So that's what it's designed to do.
	It's designed to tank the Russian economy, ladies and gentlemen.
	That is an actual act of war right there, squeezing the economy, as she says, tanking the economy.
	That's what it's designed to do.
	Yeah, that's what she said.
	And Matt, of course, ran with it.
	We'll keep upping the pressure.
	These are three key sectors yesterday.
	The firms in these sectors really want access to the U.S., really want access to the EU, and are going to feel the pressure.
	So does that mean the intent of these sanctions is to, using your words, tank the Russian economy?
	Yes!
	Yes.
	The purpose of these sanctions is to put enough pressure on the Russian government that eventually President Putin will change his calculation.
	But if he doesn't, he's going to face a situation where the people of his country who've worked so hard to be part of the international community won't be.
	And he can face those consequences.
	Because your sanctions have affected them.
	Have very negatively affected the Russian economy, which will affect them.
	So in fact you're saying that the goal here is to make it painful on the Russian people.
	Not at all.
	No, no, no, no, no.
	I don't want to hurt the Russian people, but fuck them.
	That is not what I said, Matt.
	The goal, I will repeat it for you yet again, is to put enough pressure on the Russian government that they change their calculation and do different things in the future.
	Part of how that happens is the people of Russia say, look, I don't want to not have access to the international financial system because...
	I just heard Boris say the other day, hey look, I want to have access to the international financial system.
	President Putin is off trying to invade other countries.
	President Putin is invading other countries and has access to the international money system.
	What other countries is he invading?
	Crimea!
	Ukraine!
	China!
	That's part of what can affect a leader's calculation, which I know you're very well about.
	Calculate calculus!
	Excuse me.
	Yes, I am.
	But is the goal right now, then, to drive the Russian economy into recession?
	Yes!
	Because a lot of people say that that's what- The goal is to pressure the Russian government to change their behavior.
	Have you come to the conclusion that getting to that point will require The president yesterday was asked if this is a new Cold War.
	He said no, this is a very specific set of circumstances.
	Can we get credentials to go in and ask questions as well?
	We might be able to in this one, because this is not the hard one to get into.
	I would love to do that.
	But they may not call on you.
	That's different.
	Well, that's true.
	This is like...
	Well, people just kind of pipe up.
	This woman, by the way, I'm now totally convinced that the Saki, the Jen Psaki woman, is just Marie Harf, who I believe worked at the CIA, if I'm not mistaken, as a spokesman.
	Psaki?
	No, this one worked for the CIA. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
	Harf.
	Harf, yeah.
	She worked for the CIA. I think she's trying to get rid of Psaki.
	She wants that job.
	She's the second in command.
	She's not the lead person.
	No, no, she's definitely not.
	She's the associate or something like that.
	And she wants Psaki out.
	That's why she's working on the Brolf thing.
	And I think Psaki wants to move up like Noodleman.
	I think Psaki's going to get kicked out of the entire State Department.
	Could be.
	Could be.
	I think she's short-term.
	I think she's going to end up in defense or some other thing where she's not going to be seen much.
	But I think this girl's out to get her.
	Well, she went on and Matt essentially went down the road of, okay, so sanctions on Iran, was that meant to tank the economy?
	He keeps bringing that back.
	It was pretty funny.
	But then, so my day was really made this morning when I saw Fareed Zakaria I don't know what he is, but he has at least codified for us A new term.
	Putinism.
	Okay, Putinism.
	We've had communism, we have socialism.
	Well, yeah, this is an associative terminology.
	This is to associate you with Stalinism and Trotskyites and Leninism.
	But Stalinism, Leninism, Marxism, they're all named after people.
	And now we have Putinism, which is going to be, you know, it's just bullcrap.
	This is terrible.
	This is insulting.
	Right.
	Let's listen to his entire...
	How about Obamaism?
	It doesn't roll off the tongue like Putinism.
	Putinism sounds good.
	Yeah, Putinism.
	Here's his...
	Gosh, I hadn't even thought about that.
	Marxism is a guy's name.
	Stalinism is a guy's name.
	Leninism.
	Leninism, yeah.
	You know, John Lennon.
	Yeah, John Lennon and McCarthyism.
	But Obamaism doesn't work.
	Isn't that interesting?
	You have to have one of these...
	Putinism.
	It's beautiful.
	You need a hard letter at the end.
	If you have children, they will grow up learning in books like we learned Marxism.
	They will learn Putinism.
	And here it is.
	Putinism.
	The crucial elements of Putinism are nationalism, religion, social conservatism, state capitalism, and government domination of the media.
	They work in tandem to sustain Putin's popularity, eroding judicial independence, limiting individual rights, and muzzling the free press.
	If you look around the world, there are others who have embraced core elements of Putinism.
	Putin's Erdogan has veered away from his reformist agenda toward one that is more socially conservative, Islamist, and highly nationalistic.
	We got our eye on you, Erdogan, you Putinism dude, you...
	He didn't bring in China.
	China is following that exact same checklist.
	That's China-ism.
	More socially conservative, Islamist, and highly nationalist.
	Woo-hoo!
	Many of Europe's far-right leaders are openly admiring of Putin and what he stands for.
	I'm looking at you, Nigel Farage, far-right.
	Putinism.
	Schirdwilder's Putinism.
	The success of Putinism, ultimately, will depend a great deal on the success of Putin and Russia under him.
	Yo!
	Putin!
	This is not going to catch on.
	It just sounds idiotic.
	I like it.
	I like it.
	I'm going to use it.
	My bet is it's not going to catch.
	It can't catch.
	It's no good.
	I'm going to use it wherever I can.
	It sounds idiotic.
	Well, you can use it.
	Putinism.
	It just sounds like dog crap or something.
	It's poopinism.
	Where's your dog doing?
	He's doing a little Putinism.
	The whole thing doesn't sound right.
	Where's your dog doing a little Putinism?
	Thank you.
	I like that.
	That's good.
	Yeah.
	Are you angry now?
	I'm still pissed about the kale.
	Hey, listen.
	It's like fighting the ocean.
	John?
	You take a bucket of water, throw it back, it just comes back at you.
	You can't stop it.
	We're doomed.
	This is, I think, more severe than anything I've ever seen in terms of public relations.
	Victory over the public itself.
	Are you de-benched today?
	Oh yeah, I'll be on the show.
	I'm going to actually go in a little early so I can do a little wine talk with the chat room.
	Wait a minute.
	So you're going on the Twit network today?
	Yeah.
	I had somebody call me out on Twitter saying I was an a-hole forever returning.
	Oh no.
	I understand what the point of that is.
	We need the publicity for this show here.
	Exactly.
	Exactly.
	Is there a new phone out?
	Are you prepared?
	You know, I had some tech news, but...
	Oh, yeah, no, the tech news I had was that ham guy talking about the transmitter.
	We had other tech news.
	We had another thing, though.
	What were we talking about?
	Oh, the upgraded...
	Here, you can do this.
	Mujahideen Secrets.
	You can talk about the upgraded...
	Oh, that's tech news, yeah.
	The upgraded Al-Qaeda encryption technology.
	Yeah, yeah, that would be very exciting.
	I'll be looking forward to it.
	Yeah, I'm sure you will.
	And by the way, you're not on, so don't worry about it.
	No, I'm not.
	Because I know you're always checking.
	I know.
	I don't think I'm on today.
	Yeah.
	I'll be looking for me, though.
	If I see you there, I don't know.
	Let me know.
	Coming to you from FEMA Region 6 here in the capital of the Drone Star State, where we will be back with you on Thursday in the morning, everybody.
	My name is Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley, where the traffic around here is just pathetic.
	Right now, going into San Francisco, and this is a Sunday morning, it's just jammed up.
	Anyway, I'm John C. Dvorak.
	We'll be back on Thursday right here on No Agenda.
	Their economy is tanking.
	So that's what it's designed to do.
	And we'll keep up getting the pressure.
	Fear is freedom.
	Subjugation is liberation.
	Contradiction is truth.
	Those are the facts of this world.
	And you will all surrender to them.
	You pigs in human clothing.
	I'm Joe Biden.
	I'm Joe Biden, and thank you for taking the time to listen.

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