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	Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak.
	It's Thursday, June 12th, 2014.
	It's time for your Gitmo Nation media assassination.
	This is episode 625.
	This is No Agenda.
	Counting down the days to six weeks and coming to you from FEMA Region 6 here in the Travis Heights Hideout in the capital of the Drone Star State.
	In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley, where it's always nice, I'm John C. Dvorak.
	Yeah, it's always nice.
	No, it's not.
	Yeah.
	You get gloomy days, you get gloomy days and crappy stuff.
	Can I ask you a question?
	I wish you would.
	And this is, it's just, I don't want to come across as, I'm not trying to embarrass you, I'm just trying to understand something.
	Yeah?
	Do you type blindly on the keyboard?
	I'm sure you do, right?
	You know, I'm looking at the list of clips and I knew that was the question.
	The question stands, do you type blindly?
	How does this work?
	Because clearly, as we know, the C stands for caps lock, and it was locked.
	So you're typing shift, and all of your clips start with a lowercase, and the rest is all uppercase.
	It's a little weird.
	Yeah, yeah.
	I noticed this after the fact.
	I wasn't about to go back and fix it.
	Because they're just names of clips.
	I know what they are.
	I'm just trying to understand your process.
	I record...
	You can see where it happened here.
	It's under the...
	No, I know where it happened.
	Somewhere I hit caps lock and from there on all the clips.
	But your process is different from mine.
	So apparently you have...
	You record all these clips and they have different names and you go back and you change all the names one after another.
	That's not how it works at all.
	Oh, how does your process work?
	Okay, so I use an H2N, and I have this little recorder, and I hook it to the dish network audio out, and then I save clips on the DVR, and then I... Put them into the recorder.
	So he's just going to move them from here to there.
	Right.
	And then when there's something on the computer that I want to pull down from the interwebs, I hook this up to the sound system and I just pull them down.
	So I end up with a bunch of clips that are just...
	All on the Zoom.
	The Zoom.
	Yeah, and they all say Zoom 1, 2, 3, blah, blah, blah.
	Okay, I got it.
	And most of these clips, some of them are combos.
	I mean, there may be two or three clips within one of the recordings.
	Ah.
	Then I pull the...
	Then in the morning, because I have to do these in the morning, and the reason...
	I'd done it at night before, but then I have to be extremely careful about what I name the clips, because you can't...
	There's so many clips, you can't...
	What was this one?
	For example, there's a couple here that if I had not just recorded it...
	Canter wiped out.
	I mean, I might forget what that's about.
	And so then I make the clips in the morning, and then I title them something that would just be something simple that you can find when I'm talking about it, and at the same time something I can't remember what it was.
	So again, when you're titling, you just...
	How does that work?
	How can it be that you don't see that your caps is locked?
	I don't understand.
	Or you see it, I mean, it's strange.
	Well, in this case, I was typing away, and when you do it, you just, you got your clip, and then you export it, and then you give it a name, and hit the turnkey.
	And it's out of there.
	And I was just doing these things, you know, one after another before I actually looked down and saw what I was typing.
	Your process is so...
	There's so many typos in there, too.
	Yeah, no, your process is so much...
	But first of all, that's a lot of work.
	People don't realize...
	And that's not true.
	From time to time, someone will say, hey, you know, I clipped this for you.
	Holy crap, it took me half a day to do one clip.
	How do you guys do it?
	Because my process is different.
	Of course, I have a dedicated studio and everything's kind of set up all the time, and I also use the DVR. So if I see something, I'll rewind, and then I use, what is it, Audio Hijack Pro.
	So I title it as I'm recording, so I don't have that intermediary step.
	And I recorded direct to MP3 onto...
	Oh, see, the difference between you and me in that regard, because I can't...
	I mean, if I did that, it would just be...
	That would actually add an additional step, because many times, like, say I had a clip from Democracy Now!
	that has Amy going on about two or three things.
	Right.
	I can't title that clip, because it's really not a finished clip.
	Right.
	Right.
	I'm not doing finished clips at the beginning.
	I'm taking pieces of things.
	Then I'm listening to them more carefully and then clipping out.
	I'm editing.
	I'm doing more posts.
	I just record and I'll record maybe five minutes.
	I have it already titled on my drive and then I'll edit If there's three clips in it, I'll edit it out and I'll title it one, two, or three.
	It's interesting that more than six years and I have no idea how you do your stuff on your end.
	It's the first time we've actually talked about it.
	Yeah, well, you know, everybody did that.
	That's the thing about...
	I noticed this some years back when I was...
	I had my big telecom book on the 80s, and they got put on...
	Tell us about which big telecom book?
	I had this big giant telecom book, Dvork on Telecommunications.
	It was like a thousand pages.
	And it was a big deal at McGraw-Hill, and they had put me on a...
	I gotta interrupt you.
	I think you're on Comcast.
	I don't think you're on SonicNet.
	I can tell the difference.
	How crazy is that?
	How crazy is it that I can tell what network you're connected to?
	No, I'm actually on Sonic.
	Oh, really?
	That's what it says.
	Is it breaking up?
	Yeah, it's doing real Comcast-y like stuff.
	It's okay.
	Maybe it'll shake out.
	So I'm sorry.
	Back to the telecom book.
	So they put me on a radio tour.
	A media tour.
	Radio and television around the country.
	And did you have a...
	Because, of course, this is back in the day.
	Did you have a limo?
	I was always offered a limo and I always refused.
	And did you have a PR girl?
	I don't like limos.
	I don't understand why people use them.
	I think town cars are great.
	I hate limos.
	They're uncomfortable.
	I don't want town cars.
	I don't want somebody driving me around.
	You want to drive yourself?
	I see stuff that I want to go take a photo of or something.
	You can't do that with a driver.
	He thinks you're an idiot.
	Did you have a PR girl who traveled with you?
	No, I had a PR girl that was coordinating everything, but she wasn't traveling with me, which is another thing I don't really like.
	Well, I've had it both ways, and I have to say, I kind of like it when you've got someone who's like, can I get you something to drink?
	No, I see.
	I'm not for any of that.
	I doubt that elitist crap is just happening.
	Yeah, but I also had someone to quaff my hair.
	Yeah, okay.
	That was different.
	But most of this was radio anyway.
	And what I noticed was, actually, my only takeaway from the whole experience, besides the fact that this is a huge waste of time and money, although it probably does sell a few books, but it's still a waste of time.
	Not really.
	I don't believe.
	I think one or two books are sold.
	Yeah, one or two.
	Yeah.
	I noticed the one thing I took away was that every single radio station I visited was so alien to every other radio station in the way they were set up, in the way they operated, in the way the control rooms were, in the way the guys worked.
	Some guys, you know, there are guys working standing up.
	Tom Likas and you, you work standing up.
	I work standing up, yeah.
	Some guys are in their own booth.
	You know, you have these guys who only want to be near you.
	There's a whole series...
	And all the controls are all...
	It's amazing.
	The difference from place to place is so outrageous that it's like there's no standardization whatsoever.
	And I think that's the way in this whole audio game, which is why I do what...
	The way I do it isn't alien probably to the way everyone else does.
	And you do the same thing with your gear, which is all customized.
	Well...
	But Top 40 stations are always the same.
	They're always kind of like stand-up, you know, kind of the same setup, aren't they?
	No.
	Huh.
	I worked at a couple of these places on and off, and I mean, there's a similarity that you could say is from place to place, but like the big giant stations in the Bay Area, I've worked at KGO and KF, I forgot the other one, the other big one, KSFO, and they're just alien to each other.
	Everything is different.
	Sometimes it's not that different, but I mean, it's always different, though.
	It's not like the French nuclear power plants.
	Do you remember the old Top 40 stations where they had the board with the big, so they didn't have faders, but they had the big knobs?
	Yeah, the big pots.
	Yeah, and pre-fader listening, you turn the knob all the way to the left and go click, and then on the left speaker, you could pre-listen to whatever record you were queuing up.
	Yeah, they had a little indent that you could pop it to that, and yeah, we had one of those when I went to Foothill Junior College, and our radio station had those, and Leo has a Gates at the Twit Studios.
	Oh yeah, those are nice.
	That has been rebuilt and is in mint condition, and that's the exact model you're talking about.
	I love it.
	You know what's so funny is, if I say, I don't know, someone's mentioned something about the sound, and actually it sounds the same to me as normal.
	I get emails, yeah, no, I noticed it's different.
	You'll understand that you can't just, that's not a qualifying statement.
	It doesn't work like that.
	Anyway, it's about the content, people.
	You just broke up.
	It's kind of funny.
	Okay, how did we get on this?
	I don't remember why we...
	You were asking me why I can't type.
	And somehow we got to your thousand-page book and you doing book tours.
	I'm not sure exactly what happened there.
	It was a roundabout way, explaining why I can't type.
	So what do you got?
	Well, I got a lot.
	I'm just...
	Now I'm really annoyed.
	Hey, by the way.
	Yeah.
	Did you know that...
	This is astonishing.
	I don't know why this isn't front-page news.
	Okay.
	But Bergdahl...
	Bo.
	Bo Diddley.
	Was it Bob's dad?
	Bo.
	Bo Bergdahl.
	Yeah.
	Apparently, when he was over in Afghanistan, had his head cut off.
	And I guess they somehow...
	Managed to put it back on, and that's why I think he's probably resting and recuperating in Germany.
	New details have emerged of freed U.S. soldier Beau Bergdahl's time in Taliban captivity.
	Bergdahl has told military doctors he was beaten, tortured, and locked in a metal cage for weeks and possibly months at a time as a punishment for trying to escape.
	He is reportedly now in good enough physical condition to fly home to the United States, but will remain at an American military hospital in Germany until mentally ready.
	The Obama administration faces continued Republican criticism for winning Bergdahl's freedom in return for five Taliban prisoners held at Guantanamo Bay.
	Speaking to CNN, Republican Senator John McCain claimed Obama has released, quote, hardcore military jihadists who are responsible for 9-11.
	Speaking to CNN, Secretary of State John Kerry defended the prisoner exchange.
	It would have been offensive and incomprehensible to consciously leave an American behind, no matter what, to leave an American behind.
	In the hands of people who would torture him, cut off his head, any number of things.
	And we would consciously choose to do that.
	That's the other side of this equation.
	Wait a minute.
	Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute.
	Now, are you just trying to mess with me?
	Or are you just trying to go straight for the jugular?
	I mean, there is, without a doubt, today, right off the bat, you get it.
	I mean, no doubt about it.
	Are you kidding me?
	What is wrong with this man?
	When I heard that, he says, you know, you can't even come over there to torture him and then cut off his head.
	And then it was more stuff after cut off his head, which makes it even funnier.
	What do you do?
	Anyway, the reason I thought that clip was hilarious, and when you really listen to it, it actually says that he had his head cut off.
	It's not like he's going to have his head cut off.
	When I heard it, the first thing I thought was you and your anecdotes about your first...
	Every once in a while, you brought up to one of the locals there in Texas that carries an idiot, and they'd always get irked at you.
	He's not an idiot.
	He's a genius.
	No, if I say he's stupid, no, it was different.
	I say he's stupid.
	You can't get into that position as Secretary of State if you're stupid.
	And then I turned around and said, well, that's funny because you always tell me that George Bush was an idiot and he was president.
	And that's the line.
	That's the line.
	It's a setup.
	Yeah, it's a setup.
	T-ball, T-ball.
	So, Hegel...
	Who is our new Secretary of Defense.
	By the way, chat room, I've lowered the bit rate, whatever.
	I just want to make sure, I know it sounds crappy just for you.
	People are like, you sound like sand.
	What kind of report is that, people?
	You sound like sand.
	Last time I heard sand, it sounded like Adam.
	Now, Hagel, I want to remind everybody, our Secretary of Defense is a boob.
	This is the guy who fumbled and bumbled and they still said, oh, well, shucks, whatever.
	We'll let you in.
	We'll confirm you.
	But he did a lot of things wrong and he had to go back and restate his answers during his confirmation hearings.
	The guy was not really on the ball.
	And he looks exactly like Droopy Dog with those big bags under his eyes.
	And here he is...
	He's under fire now in a congressional hearing because Bo Diddley is still in Germany.
	He is not even home yet.
	This is a little confusing.
	People haven't really talked about it.
	So we haven't really gotten...
	Any intel from him?
	And it got a little heated there up on the hill.
	Mr.
	Secretary, you keep saying we can't get the facts from Sergeant Bergdahl until he returns home.
	Have you ever thought about going to Lon Stuhl and talking to him there?
	What a concept.
	Well, I don't know how much medical training you had, Congressman.
	I haven't had much.
	And what we are doing is we are allowing...
	I'll tell you what, Mr.
	Secretary.
	No, Mr.
	Secretary, wait a minute.
	Wait a minute.
	By the way, I love how he just shuts up when the guy says, wait a minute.
	That's not something...
	Any of the other secretaries would do that.
	No, not at all.
	Why hasn't he been returned to the United States?
	We have seriously wounded soldiers that are returned to the United States almost immediately after they are stabilized.
	How long did Jessica Lynch wait before she was returned to the United States?
	You're trying to tell me that he's being held at Landstuhl, Germany because of his medical condition?
	Congressman, I hope you're not implying anything other than that.
	Doofus.
	Of course he is.
	Did you ask me a question, Mr.
	Secretary?
	I'm going to give you an answer, too, and I don't like the implication of the question.
	Answer it.
	Answer it.
	He's being held there because our medical professionals don't believe he's ready until they believe he is ready.
	I'm a way to buy it.
	What?
	To take the next step.
	They don't believe he's ready and not ready.
	Is he ready, Freddie?
	Have you ever seen a traumatically injured service member brought to the United States immediately?
	With his head cut off.
	Upon being stabilized at Launstool?
	We do it all the time.
	This isn't just about a physical situation, Congressman.
	This guy was held for almost five years.
	In God knows what kind of conditions.
	We do know some of the conditions.
	You can hear his brain going.
	What comes out of his mouth is, in God knows what kind of conditions.
	Oh, crap.
	I mean, we do know some of the conditions.
	You can hear his brain trying to correct his mouth, which is just foaming with moronity.
	This guy was hell for almost five years.
	In God knows what kind of conditions, we do know some of the conditions from our intelligence community, not from, by the way, Bergdahl.
	This is not just about can he get on his feet and walk and get to a plane.
	So you're telling me he cannot be questioned because of his condition?
	I'm telling you is that the medical professionals who rely on their judgment for his health, which I assume everybody respects, have made the determination And we'll make the determination that when he is ready to move and move to the next step, which will most likely be in San Antonio, then we can proceed.
	Well, obviously there's a nightmare situation.
	Yes.
	There's reports already that Bergdahl has renounced his parents and he's all in with the captors, his Stockholm Syndrome, or he was what he was, he was a turncoat.
	And...
	They're trying to talk him out of giving that testimony.
	This is exactly like Wag the Dog and the Woody Harrelson character, who was a rapist, they were bringing back after this phony baloney rescue, and he couldn't get his act together straight because he was a psycho that needed to take a bunch of pills.
	I think the same thing's going on with this guy.
	Well, you recall that they basically put band camp girl Marie Harf Like, here, you talk to the press.
	Yeah, but now, they've really thrown this poor girl to the wolves.
	They're making her go on shows!
	I know, she was on a show.
	Did you see her go on with Andrea Mitchell?
	No, I didn't see it, but I saw some clips of it.
	Oh, my.
	I feel bad for this girl.
	I have just a piece of it, which was...
	I mean, they're really...
	They have no mercy on her.
	Bandcamp girl.
	Hey, bandcamp girl.
	Hey, welcome to the big leagues, kid.
	I know, and she's so stupid, and she doesn't know how to field these questions properly.
	And I don't think they care.
	They're just, ah, screw it, it's her fault.
	She's not stupid, but she reminds me of...
	Many...
	Okay, she reminds me of your typical mid-sized company human resources girl.
	Do you know what I mean?
	Yeah, no, she has that element.
	She thinks she's towing the company line, and she's not.
	And she's the one that has to call, Adam, can you do your timesheet?
	That's what I envision her as.
	Like a human resources girl.
	I just don't see her as a brainiac.
	Well, she's not a sharp PR wolf is what you have to be.
	Here she is with Andrea Mitchell, who is essentially eating her for lunch.
	Let me question you about that because the Bin Laden raid was completely briefed for 11 months and in fact in the 48 hours prior to the raid was briefed to the top leaders.
	It was not actually.
	It was not.
	The Bin Laden raid was the only other time we haven't briefed Congress actually in an operation.
	In fact, that was claimed initially by Sorry, Marie, Marie, Marie.
	Tom Donilon, in fact, in a conference with me a week ago.
	But since that time, Mike Morrell says that it was completely briefed.
	He was acting CIA director.
	And in contemporaneous time frame, I talked to a Senate chairman.
	Wait, wait, stop.
	Did Marie say what?
	It gets worse.
	She's about to make the worst mistake.
	The day after the raid, and he said, I'm so sorry I couldn't talk to you that Sunday.
	We were together.
	It was briefed.
	Well, I was the spokesperson then, if you remember.
	I know.
	And I think it's the same.
	She just put her foot in the poop right there.
	I was the spokesperson, don't you remember?
	Yeah.
	Talking about with Bergdahl is somewhat the same as bin Laden.
	The architecture of what this might look like, including in the Bergdahl case, was briefed to Congress.
	So this is how she's been told to spin this, that the architecture...
	Was well known.
	Yeah, but she was sent away with that message and nothing else.
	And hey, Bandcamp girl, good luck.
	I thought it was kind of mean.
	Yeah, yeah.
	But it also means that there's trouble.
	If they're throwing her out, they're like, please send her.
	They did this with Susan Rice that one time, remember?
	Well, yeah.
	And how'd that work out for her?
	Well, you know, it turns out that rice is not that bright either.
	I think these women are being used.
	Well, then, this, I think, is a perfect segue into something that somehow I thought you had said you were not going to do this anymore.
	No.
	I said what I'm not going to do anymore is Club 33.
	I recall...
	A conversation at one point where you were not going to follow or report on the Miss America pageants, or any pageants.
	Well, this Miss USA is slightly different, but I have to because there's political implications in these shows.
	I know.
	I've told this to Mimi, who is moaning about my, like, watching these women walking up and down over and over again.
	Why is she complaining?
	What's wrong with that?
	She just thinks I'm a horndog or something to be watching three hours.
	And by the way, you record these shows, you can't watch three hours.
	These are horrible shows.
	They're too long.
	It's just ridiculous.
	But whatever the case was, there's a lot of political implications that show up.
	For one thing, you realize that these shows are rigged.
	And, you know, we can say, everyone says, oh yeah, big deal, this is news.
	Is this a Trump outfit?
	Who produces this?
	This is the Trump one.
	This is the Trump one.
	Okay, well then of course it's rigged.
	You want me to...
	Do you go into a couple of these clips?
	Yeah, this is a very important segment.
	Miss USA showed up.
	Let me just say, the No Agenda show is not ashamed to delve into the political nature of beauty pageants.
	And I'm always amazed that no one else does this.
	So it is our USP. The only time they've actually done it, I'd say, as a group of journalists, was when that Miss...
	Which I almost was going to put that clip in there, the Miss South Carolina, Miss Teen South Carolina, who made the huge gaffe, a botch.
	This show was...
	Let's start off with just an overview.
	There's a bunch of women.
	They bring them in.
	I don't even know if they have these competitions state by state because there was one...
	Miss Washington, for example, was jobbed out of...
	She should have been in the top 20.
	She was a dead ringer for a Jenny McCarthy, only a little better looking.
	Hmm, okay.
	And she didn't even get top 20, whereas Miss Virginia, who looked horrible, she looked like a guy, she got in.
	This is just, I'm being objective.
	And let me ask you, why in this day of misogyny and yes, all women, why are there people, were there protests outside?
	Were there women yelling Trump as a douchebag?
	Were the adverts?
	That could happen any time.
	Were advertisers pulling out?
	How is this acceptable in this day and age?
	You tell me.
	I mean, this is another issue that needs to be discussed.
	Now, so they had this, but what I have to give Trump credit for, and I think he has something to do with this, when they finally get down to the final, like, six or so, You could throw a dart and it doesn't make any difference.
	They're all gorgeous.
	I would say the exception to this was, and somebody will groan and say, you have to let me finish this, Miss Louisiana.
	Miss Louisiana was not in the same universe as these other women.
	She was a, I would call her an outrageous European-style beauty queen of the order of Grace Kelly.
	She was just not even...
	She was a cut above everybody else.
	Let me take a look.
	She was out of place.
	Mm-hmm.
	Because these contests are...
	And why I think we don't compete very well in Miss Universe.
	These contests picked the hyper-cute girl.
	Okay.
	Just the cutest thing you've ever seen.
	Just cute as a bug kind of a...
	You know, whatever.
	Cutie pies.
	Let me just...
	This is the blonde?
	She's the...
	Dude, make sure it's 2014.
	Yeah, 2014.
	Uh...
	A little kind of dark brunette-y?
	I don't know.
	There's a whole bunch of pictures.
	I don't know.
	Okay.
	What's her name?
	I don't even know if you look at the right picture.
	It's hard to find the right pictures.
	But whatever the case is, when you saw her visually, you'd go, oh, yeah, she's gorgeous.
	Whatever the case, that one that won was Miss Nevada.
	Now, Miss Nevada, who was a really cute girl, also multi-culti.
	Nia Sanchez.
	Sanchez.
	Uh-huh.
	And here's the thing.
	This is what shows me that this was rigged.
	And of course, it wasn't a bad choice because all five of these or six of them that were at the end, any one of them could have won.
	It doesn't...
	They're all, in fact, two or three of them look like the same girl.
	Exactly.
	They look like sisters.
	So let's go over this couple of clips.
	This is the rigged coincidences.
	Play that clip.
	Hey!
	How are you?
	Hey!
	Nevada.
	I know everyone, you know, everyone's got their way of saying it, right?
	Is this Juliana from the E! Network?
	Who's hosting?
	It might be.
	I don't know.
	She's just a horrible host, and she gives the other guy crap, and they're scouring it, or whatever.
	They're looking at each other angrily.
	I need to know who was hosting this.
	I'll look it up.
	I'll look it up.
	Look it up.
	Now, this is the part.
	They got the finalists, and they're going from one to the other to the other for a casual conversation.
	This isn't the final question.
	This is just the casual conversation.
	Now, listen to the casual conversation with Miss Nevada.
	The Miss USA contestants are under tight security.
	As a fourth-degree black belt, do you really need it?
	I appreciate the security that we have, but I feel I can take care of myself.
	I've always felt very confident, and I think it's a great thing for a woman to have that confidence to be able to take care of herself.
	All right, so no messing with you, right?
	All right, Louisiana.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	You have a couple fans here.
	I don't know if everybody at home can tell, but you are the hometown girl here.
	So, what have you enjoyed most about welcoming others from the Miss USA contestants to everybody with the organization to your state?
	Well, it was really fun showing them our culture.
	It's so vibrant and rich.
	The hospitality here was so great.
	Our culture.
	You can stop it.
	So let's go to, like, for example, this is an example.
	Now we go to the questions.
	It is Julianne Rancic, by the way.
	She is the girl from the E! Network.
	Okay, here we go.
	Now, this is the question at the end.
	This is the typical question, and this was asked of Miss Louisiana.
	This is the USA Louisiana clip.
	Now, you have two, Miss Louisiana.
	You have USA Louisiana and Louisiana-1.
	Is that just a mistake?
	I don't know.
	Please, USA Louisiana, we'll see.
	Louisiana, please come over and join us.
	Please go ahead and select the card.
	Thank you.
	And we have judge number four, Ian Ziering.
	Your question, please.
	Oh, Ian Ziering from Sharknado?
	Yeah, hey, how come we're not judges, man?
	If the Sharknado guy can get in.
	In recent weeks, the US has released five detainees from Guantanamo in exchange for one US soldier held captive in Afghanistan.
	There you go.
	The US policy is to leave no soldier behind.
	Do you think it's fair to sacrifice or swap lives in order to uphold this policy?
	I am glad that we got our guy back.
	However, I do not feel it is right that we subject ourselves to these acts of terrorism.
	I do agree with our guy being back, but however, I do not think we should subject ourselves.
	Thank you.
	Wait a minute.
	Thank you, Louisiana.
	Did they have the producer like, yeah, clap now!
	No, she's the local girl, so they were just going nuts for her every time she showed up.
	But they went nuts for her when she said, I don't think we should, you know, what did she say?
	Give in to terrorism or something?
	Submit or subject or something.
	Subject ourselves.
	Yeah, a little weird.
	And it wasn't, I don't know what, she was just, it was an inane commentary.
	She didn't know what she, I don't know what she was trying to say.
	Meanwhile, they have these kinds of political questions, and then, if you remember the little intro at the beginning with Miss Nevada and her black belt, now we have the final question for her.
	Alright, Miss Nevada, let's see what we have here.
	Judge number five, a rumor, rumor Willis, your question please.
	Recently, Time Magazine revealed that 19% of U.S. undergraduate women are victims of sexual assault in college.
	Why has such a horrific epidemic been swept under the rug for so long, and what can colleges do to combat this?
	I believe...
	What a shit question.
	I mean, first of all, to ask why has it been swept under the rug for so long?
	Well, I don't know.
	What is that?
	What?
	All right.
	More awareness is very important so women can learn how to protect themselves.
	Myself, as a fourth-degree black belt, I learned from a young age that you need to be confident and being able to defend yourself.
	And I think that's something that we should start to really implement for a lot of women.
	Thank you.
	Okay.
	Well, you know what?
	I think she did a good job on that answer.
	Yes, she did, but it's a rigged question.
	Obviously, it was meant for her, so she could bring that black belt thing in again.
	It was just so artificial, and this entire thing, I wonder, I would like to be a judge just to see what is going on in the background.
	I'm sure you have to sign nondisclosures.
	Well, here it is.
	I'm shocked to find that gambling is going on in here.
	Uh-huh.
	Yeah, okay.
	I don't know.
	I mean, that stupid little jingle in the background sticks in your mind, unfortunately.
	It's kind of annoying.
	Oh, I know.
	Here it is.
	Straight from Reseda.
	Here she is, Raven.
	Give it up!
	You could do this.
	You could be the host.
	I could.
	Easily.
	We have one more clip if you want to play, which is...
	Actually, what's this other one?
	I don't know what the other Louisiana one is.
	I think it's the same one.
	I think it just got doubled or something.
	Yeah, North Dakota.
	This is the way it opens up.
	Actually, North Dakota was a good-looking girl, too.
	But like I said, the last six were all the same.
	All right, North Dakota.
	Hey.
	Hey, how are you guys?
	I like the green.
	I'm feeling you, girl.
	So, North Dakota, what do you think your old bullies would say to you now that you're in the top six?
	Actually, a lot of the bullies that I encountered in high school have apologized.
	I live in Fargo, North Dakota, still today, and a lot of them still live there.
	And so I think they're incredibly, I guess, big people for doing that and apologizing.
	But I think it's an example of how you can push forward and keep going no matter what you face in life.
	Yeah, thank you, North Dakota.
	Thank you.
	What?
	That was the beginning walkthrough again.
	I should have ran it earlier.
	So they bring up the bully issue, of course.
	And there's this gorgeous, she's like 5'9".
	She's just a really pretty girl.
	And she says, you know, and then they bring up bullying like she was bullied.
	She was probably, I would assume, probably more of one of the cliques.
	And, yeah, I bet people came up to her and apologized.
	Yeah.
	They apologized.
	What are you doing, Don?
	I'm sorry about what that guy said.
	What are you doing there?
	I mean, please.
	Exactly.
	Anyway, so the whole thing, which it was, I don't think it was, it didn't perform well for me as an analyst insofar as finding new memes or anything like that.
	And it's just, it didn't do much.
	I noticed something I talked to Mimi about, though.
	Okay.
	Because there's a bunch, not all of them, Miss Nevada didn't have it and a lot of these others, but there's a muscle in women that is the equivalent of the six-pack in men, but it goes up and down horizontally.
	She's explained to me, she says this comes from a, damn it, I forgot to write it down, a special exercise that's become popular recently.
	It's called a royal chair or something.
	There's this thing you sit up in.
	Maybe somebody in the chat room.
	And this is to exercise your core, I presume, or something like that?
	It's exercise.
	You use this chair to exercise all sorts of things, but if you use it for stomach exercises, you do kind of crunches or whatever while you're on this thing, you get this protruding muscle that runs from just below the breast down to just under the belly button, and it sticks out on a thin woman.
	And it looks weird when you see it.
	It's kind of creepy, to be honest about it, because it protrudes so much.
	I'm...
	And a number of these women had that.
	Probably at least half of them had this little issue from exercising.
	Well, we need to find out more about this muscle.
	Yeah, she had the name for it, too.
	It's a specific female muscle.
	Wait a minute.
	Do women have a different muscle in their six-pack?
	This apparently has something to do with protecting the uterus during pregnancy.
	It's a specific muscle for...
	For women.
	And it has a purpose.
	And that's why you see very few women, she says, I'm just relaying what she tells me, with six-pack abs because unless they take testosterone, they haven't got enough.
	They can't make those muscles.
	They can't build the muscle up, yeah.
	And so this muscle is what happens instead.
	And when it's protruding, it actually protrudes so much on some of these girls, it makes them look like they have a little pot belly.
	And I just found, during the bathing suit competition, at least half of the women We do have an official no-agenda workout for the abs.
	No agenda show, like a kick to the crotch.
	Exactly.
	There you go.
	Anyway, that was the only oddity I saw that I've never noticed before, but I don't know.
	There'll be a few more of these.
	If this continues at this pace with this light amount of information, I'm going to stop doing this.
	Okay, so there you go.
	You're threatening again.
	Anyway, some housekeeping business.
	A lot of people, and I'm kind of happy on one hand to see that it's a lot.
	On the other hand, I'm sad about it.
	But so many people have been listening to this program from very early on that even though we have had a new...
	I've been a podcast feed for, oh man, how long now?
	Almost two years, I'm going to guess?
	Longer than that.
	Longer than that.
	Yeah, I don't know if it's...
	Really?
	Longer than two years?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, because you were freaked out.
	Yeah, because I knew things were going to change.
	And you can find that on every front page that our podcast is listed, noagendashow.com, on any of the show notes.
	It says right there, podcast feed.
	You can click on it, and it'll subscribe you on iTunes, or if you use something else, it should work.
	You should be able to use that feed.
	A lot of people are still using the old Mevio feed.
	Yeah.
	And all of a sudden, I'm getting tweets.
	Let's say, like, hey, how come I need a password?
	Well...
	Yeah?
	Yeah.
	You were going to say something?
	No, I was just reminded of the year we get this.
	I got a guy who just wrote me a note.
	I'm not going to say who it is, but he says, I sent an email and I haven't gotten my ring.
	And I said, did you go to noagenonation.com slash rings?
	And I haven't heard back from him, but I mean, as many times as we tell people to do something...
	I don't know how many times you have to tell them before they all know.
	I think it's probably an infinite number of times.
	Yeah, and...
	Yeah.
	I don't think it's...
	I think it's impossible.
	A lot of people just don't know.
	They don't...
	You know, they clicked on something years ago.
	Right, and they're not living the show.
	No, but I'm...
	It's also...
	It's okay.
	You know, I'm...
	I'm just letting everybody know that I put it in the show notes again, in the actual show notes, but it's on every single page, feed.nashownotes.com slash rsx.xml.
	That does you nothing because you probably can't remember it, but it's everywhere, and if you're having an issue...
	I just wonder, if people don't receive a show, do a lot of them think, oh well, it's over?
	Or do they...
	I just wonder.
	There must be people who just...
	I'm guilty of this.
	I know that I've had something I was following for a while, and then somehow it happens on my blog.
	I used to have a couple of things on my blog that one of the guys erased or got erased somehow, and it's not on there anymore, usually in a sidebar or something.
	I was referring to something, you know, pointing somewhere or talking about something.
	And it disappeared, and it would take me months to notice it.
	Months.
	Yeah.
	But if you're, I mean, people who listen to No Agenda, I think it's kind of a habit.
	And, you know, you would be, hey, it's Thursday, I haven't gotten anything, or it's Sunday or Monday, or where is it?
	Do people give up?
	I don't know.
	Maybe.
	I don't know.
	People just give up.
	Oh, thank God.
	Rest.
	Whatever.
	So I just want to...
	That's just a little bit of housekeeping.
	Got an email here from Paul Piedemann in the Netherlands.
	And he asked me to call you out as a douchebag.
	Or if I could just hit you in the head with a rain stick.
	I told you not to do this.
	Yeah, I know why.
	He was traveling home from Denmark by train.
	He was first told in Kolding, the carriages designated for the Netherlands were not there because of the storm in Germany on Monday.
	So instead he had to travel, don't do it, to Frankfurt am Main, get up at 6 a.m. and change there.
	Since he had paid for a sleeper carriage for a reason, you know, very unpleasant.
	It gets worse.
	In Frankfurt, we were supposed to get on ice to Amsterdam, but did not go further than Cologne, Cologne, because of the storms on Tuesday night having destroyed the track and the overhead wires.
	I wanted to go to Eindhoven via Dusseldorf and Venlo, but Dusseldorf and the segment to Venlo seemed to be completely out as well.
	Huh. - Yeah.
	Fly, my friend, fly!
	The Deutsche Bahn put me in a taxi to Utrecht, so I got home with a delay of five hours.
	John is a douchebag for playing with the rain stick on Sunday!
	Well...
	You gotta be careful.
	You don't realize the power of the stick.
	The stick.
	Well, this is...
	We weren't both doing it, because that's when it really caused us trouble.
	It rained here after...
	I didn't even touch my stick, and it rained here.
	How long do you go without touching your stick?
	I can go quite...
	Alright.
	Very good.
	Hey!
	It's a comedy show, everybody.
	Congratulations, James Berthelsen, Kilo Golf 7, Mike Juliet November, brand new ham.
	I've promised that if people get their ham radio license because of the show, we're going to call them out with their new call sign.
	And we have, luckily, a presidential proclamation because, gee, we don't have enough.
	This has been a busy month.
	It just seems like a waste of time.
	Well, June 15th is very...
	Oh, boy.
	Don't take it the wrong way.
	It's the only proclamation.
	It's World Elder Abuse Awareness Day.
	Quit hitting me!
	World Elder Abuse.
	That's a good one.
	Yeah.
	Well, let's see what the president says.
	Each year, the international community renews its commitment to addressing a human rights issue that too often goes ignored.
	Elder abuse, neglect, and exploitation.
	Yeah, I'm exploiting you.
	Elder abuse damages public health and threatens millions of our parents, grandparents, and friends.
	It's a crisis that knows no borders or socioeconomic lines.
	I think there's laws.
	Yeah, I don't think you need a special day for it.
	But, okay.
	Keep it down in there, you jabbermouth!
	I'm trying to watch C-SPAN 2!
	And that's the only proclamation we have from the president.
	You're getting old man Simpson clips for the show now?
	I had not heard that one yet.
	Someone sent it to me.
	Okay.
	I liked it because it was C-SPAN 2.
	C-SPAN 2.
	Got this off of C-SPAN 2.
	Yeah.
	But anyway, I would like to thank you for your courage, as always, John, and say, in the morning to you!
	Yeah, in the morning to you, all the morning.
	John C. Dvorak.
	And in the morning to you, Adam Curry.
	Also in the morning, all ships and sea boots on the ground, feet in the air, subs of all the dames and the knights out there.
	Well, you don't have to, like, run through it.
	It's okay.
	I might as well.
	In the morning, yeah.
	In the morning to all the human resources in our chat room, noagendastream.com, noagendachat.net.
	Also in the morning to all of our artists.
	Thank you very much, Sir Nussbaum.
	For the artwork on episode 624, and we'll look forward to the art for 625er, obviously, which we'll be choosing right after the show.
	We're going to choose it quick today because I got to run.
	Where are you going?
	I'm driving up to Plano.
	Plano?
	That's a long drive for you.
	Three and a half hours.
	Yeah.
	It's for HamCom.
	Oh, is that where it is?
	Well, you had Dayton, which I missed because we were in Tokyo.
	We were in Tokyo.
	But HamCom is, you know, it's pretty big.
	Like a Texas thing.
	It's a Texas thing, but people do fly in for it.
	And, you know, I got my 20-meter, my 40-meter antenna on the truck.
	Woo-hoo!
	So I'll be slumming it on the sideband all the way up.
	On my way.
	I'm staying two nights.
	Two nights?
	Well, it starts early.
	The flea market.
	This is bad.
	I know it's bad.
	So you have the flea market.
	Where did you get this old mic?
	Yeah, that's exactly it.
	I love this key.
	I used to use one of these mics when I was a kid.
	When I was in the military.
	The flea market starts at 8.
	Oh, you've got to go to that.
	Yeah, I want to get up early.
	And of course, I don't want to drive back the same day, so I'll stay overnight and go back Saturday.
	Sign it for your man cave.
	And Mickey is making fun of me.
	I'll bet she is.
	She's like, I'll pack you a brown paper bag lunch.
	Yeah.
	And do you have your holster for your cell phone?
	Touche, woman.
	She's very, very mean.
	But anyway, we'll be looking at noagendaartgenerator.com for your artwork after the show.
	Not a great day, support-wise.
	No, this is a terrible day.
	I want to remind people that you're giving us pause for concern here.
	We have zero...
	And I'll say that again, zero executive producers and zero associate executive producers.
	In fact, for the entire show, anyone donating over $50 amounted to 22 people out of probably a world of 100,000, at least over 10,000 people on the mailing list.
	And that's the best you could do.
	And I have a lot of thoughts on why this happened.
	Okay.
	Is it me?
	Did I mess it up again?
	No.
	Yeah, it's your fault.
	Okay.
	I would say this, that one guy in the last show, the guy who became the Insta Baron, gave more money, one single guy, than everybody combined on this show 625.
	And I think everybody has to think about this.
	Why would everyone just drop off and just...
	I mean, even the anonymous lesbian came in on this show and she can't afford it.
	People have to realize that we need to have a constant cash flow.
	I'm reminded of the day when there used to be a butcher shop that I used to go to that had venison, elk, all this stuff.
	And I went there for a while, and then I kind of forgot about the place, or I decided, I don't know what happened, I just got lazy.
	And I didn't go there, I didn't support the place.
	And let me guess, you went by and the guy was closed?
	Yeah, out of business.
	And I don't say it's just my fault.
	I'm not the only one who likes to eat elk and had a butcher shop where I could get it and didn't go there enough to keep the guy in business.
	But that's the kind of thing that can happen.
	Oh, yeah.
	And when we go to the market, to the Saturday market here in Austin, we kind of...
	I don't think we've missed really a day unless we were out of town or maybe one time we were just...
	I don't know.
	Not even weather.
	For some reason we stayed in, but maybe once.
	We were hungover.
	That's right.
	I forgot.
	But we go out in the cold, in the rain, and they're appreciative.
	They're like, oh, man, thanks for coming out.
	And of course, this always gets me the best cuts of meat later on in the year, but I'm doing it to support them.
	And, you know, like the chicken people, they really weren't getting the support they needed at the market.
	They're now gone.
	Now, they've just moved their business.
	I think they're selling more to a larger supplier.
	So they've kind of made this decision, you know, well, why don't we then just kind of work for one guy and sell a lot more, and, you know, now everyone else gets screwed.
	But they had to, because people just weren't supporting them enough.
	Right.
	And that happens.
	Yeah.
	That can happen to this show, and then everybody's going to, let's put it this way, you've got this show, you like the show, you listen to the show, you're not supporting the show, at least today, your alternative is Alex Jones.
	Right.
	That's what you're going to be listening to.
	And Rents.com.
	That's going to be your insight.
	It's all going to come from this guy.
	And Rents.
	And maybe one or two others.
	Virginia Dare or whatever.
	There's a bunch of these characters.
	And they have...
	I don't think it's the same.
	It's not the same kind of analysis that we provide in any way.
	And you just have to think about that.
	This is your alternative.
	There's very little choice in the market insofar as this sort of analysis that we provide.
	And yeah, okay, we do the Miss USA contest.
	These are only four or five of these a year.
	And I try not to belabor them if they're not interesting.
	But there's other stuff that we do, obviously, that's very important to most of the people.
	I think you need to look at it differently, John.
	I think if people want us to sell boner pills and seeds and iodine, If you want to be poisoned by the show.
	All right.
	We will have a segment of producers because, of course, a lot of people came in and did support us, just no executives or associate executive producers.
	That is, I don't recall.
	Does this happen before?
	It must have happened.
	It happened two years ago.
	Hmm.
	And it happened once before that.
	This is only, I believe, the third time this has ever happened where nobody, I don't know, it could be they're all on vacation.
	I have no idea where everybody went.
	But it's like they all disappeared.
	Just all at once.
	Well, we do appreciate the support.
	Please think of us for this coming Sunday.
	And of course, we always need more people to come in and not donate to support us.
	Our formula is this.
	We go out, we hear people in the mouth.
	I want to jump right into some Agenda 21 stuff.
	you There's, of course, an email we got from, did you get this from Brian the firefighter?
	I don't know.
	Hey, John.
	Of course, he sent it to me.
	It's for you.
	So, hey, John.
	I just heard you discussing the forest fires and the main issue being people moving deeper into the forests.
	Oh, yeah.
	No, I did get this email.
	Having worked as a forest firefighter, I believe the root cause is the logging policy.
	Now, I'm reading this email for a reason because the president is even saying, oh, you know, forest fires, it's because of climate change.
	I want to mention, I mentioned to him, and I'll mention to you, I sent him a note back, that when I did the exposition of this little hearing where Marky didn't pay any attention to anybody and just said, you know, we're all going to die, I mentioned that one of the two scientists that were testifying, who talked about the drought years showing up during a...
	Global cooling.
	Right.
	It wasn't him, but the other guy who talked about forest fires being partly...
	Yeah, who you had in the...
	He also said that the logging has really fallen off and that we don't have a good pro-logging policy, one that works, has contributed to this problem.
	He mentioned it.
	So I just didn't play that part of the clip.
	Well, our firefighter says back in 06-07, there was a bill that was rejected in the Oregon Senate that would have increased the logging on state lands to a fraction of a percent higher, even though the increase was substantially less than the regrowth rate of the forest.
	It was rejected for political reasons.
	From my understanding, the policy has been to suppress fires and prevent logging, which has resulted in the perfect storm that we're seeing now.
	And he was fighting fires in the summer of 07.
	The forests were choked with dense trees and bushes that easily caused a canopy fire.
	Yeah.
	But this is being played off as...
	Global warming!
	Yeah, global warming.
	And it's becoming...
	Well, it's a little frustrating to me how...
	Now it's just gotten to the point where I think two things are going on.
	One is people are so tired of hearing about it, they don't give a crap.
	Nothing works.
	They don't care if you believe in it or don't believe it.
	They just don't care.
	The problem is a lot of policy is being set because of it, which is going to, I believe, hurt people in other ways.
	Yeah.
	And that's why it's important.
	But you also get shouted down so easily.
	Actually, this is the Bill Maher show.
	Someone alert me to this.
	I can't watch the program.
	This is Bill Maher's Overtime.
	So it's not actually on the show.
	You can only get it on the web.
	Yeah.
	And he has with him on the show Ralph Reed.
	Who I had to look up.
	Do you know this guy, Ralph Reed?
	Yeah, Ralph Reed is interesting because he was a superstar politico with a consulting business.
	Very good looking kid.
	And then he got caught with his hand in the cookie jar.
	Some corruption.
	Oh, really?
	I didn't know about this.
	And then, funny, because he was kind of ousted.
	He was ousted as one of the great conservatives.
	He was a conservative spokesperson, kind of, for a certain kind of conservatism, a religious conservative.
	He was part of the Jack Abramoff lobbying scandal.
	Yes.
	And now, the funny thing was, when I was writing a lot of columns, I had found out that he was involved with Microsoft because one of the things he was doing was what's called astroturfing the public about some product or something.
	And I kind of blew the whistle on him.
	I got rid of him.
	So he is also...
	What am I hearing here?
	Oh, I see what people are hearing.
	Hold on a second.
	Hold on a second, John.
	Don't do that.
	Oh.
	He's off.
	He'll be back.
	She's walked in naked?
	No, I was trying to figure out.
	I hear this sound, but it's coming from outside.
	It's like an 8K tone of something that whenever I'm talking, I hear it in the background.
	What is it?
	I'm not sure.
	It's probably just one of those things they're trying to beam into your brain.
	I think it's either a weed whacker or it's a really loud locust.
	It's a locust plague!
	All right, onward.
	Have you ever been in an area where there's a locust infestation going on?
	No, but I do know that it's happening right now in Libya.
	Well, apparently, Gaddafi had this whole locust management program going on for years, and when we came in and saved everybody, I guess that...
	I have not heard this.
	Oh, well, just Google it for a second.
	Apparently, it's really bad.
	So, locust Libya...
	Yeah, of course.
	I mean, why would we tell you anything?
	Here, desert locust outbreak in Libya.
	Oh, God.
	Yeah.
	With Gaddafi gone.
	These are nasty.
	Locust plague in Libya.
	Yeah.
	Oh, look at that.
	Oh, my goodness.
	When you see the pictures, it's outrageous.
	So they had an outbreak in 2003.
	And of course, this is not just contained to Libya.
	This can spread to large portions of Africa.
	And the crazy thing about it is, the Locust Plague, isn't that one of the seven signs or something?
	Yeah, well, it happens every seven years or so.
	Right.
	Yeah, this is terrible.
	Oh my God, look at that picture.
	It's a wall of these things.
	The rapture is upon us.
	Well, I'll tell you, these things are nasty, but if you go in, they have them, you know, they crop up everywhere, and if you, there was some years back, Atlanta had a breakout, and when you go into town, they just eat everything.
	When you're wandering around, and they fall on you, every once in a while.
	Oh, it's horrible when they fall on you.
	There's a big thing that hits you in the shoulder.
	It's like cicadas.
	But they, yeah, well, there's almost the same thing.
	Difference, yeah.
	There's this buzzing sound everywhere.
	Everywhere you go is this buzzing sound.
	It's very weird.
	It's very creepy.
	That's why we're looking at a new casa, by the way, here in Austin.
	We need to have a house that is actually closed off to the environment.
	We need to have proper windows and everything.
	Get some heap of filters.
	No, it's not.
	We have the filters, but the place is open.
	I mean, you can hear everything.
	If someone walks past the house and farts, you'll hear it.
	Smell it even worse.
	Alright, back to Rex Reed.
	Right, so Rex Reed, and he seems to be preaching more evangelism, but I guess he's there to be made fun of as someone who believes in God.
	Ha ha ha!
	You crazy man.
	You crazy man.
	And the topic of global warming comes up, and Anthony Weiner is on the show, interestingly enough.
	And two other people, I don't remember who, but this is the clip of what's-his-face.
	Ralph Reed with Bill Maher.
	On the issue of climate change, I believe the climate changes.
	I believe in variations in the climate throughout history.
	And that's documented.
	Yes, that's not the controversy.
	But the facts are these.
	And this is by the National Oceanographic Agency.
	That from 1975 until about 2000, the global mean surface temperature increased by about a half a degree centigrade.
	Since 2000, it has not increased at all.
	Bullshit.
	How about that, huh?
	Meyer just says bullshit.
	Right in the middle of this.
	Yeah.
	And here comes Wiener.
	But let's assume for a moment there's no global climate change.
	Why isn't it the religious, God-fearing thing to do to protect our Earth under any circumstance?
	Thanks, Wiener.
	Please.
	What an idiot.
	So that goes on, but wow.
	That is the response you get.
	That's like with the hearings that I played the clips of, where these two guys, they have all these things to say, and then the guy concludes...
	Just says bullshit.
	He might as well say bullshit.
	Exactly the opposite.
	Yeah, and then go the opposite.
	Now, so that nobody will listen to reason on that side, and then they shout you down and say that you're a liar, or you're not, you know, this is not facts, and then they, it's astonishing to me.
	I have never seen, it's almost like mass hysteria.
	In a very funny way, I have never seen anything like it.
	It must have a name.
	It must be everybody is.
	I mean, not everybody, obviously, but but nobody doesn't.
	If people cannot see the political side of this where you have.
	Why is it that all one?
	You know, why is it a political issue?
	Why are the Democrats on one side of the issue and the Republicans on the other?
	I mean, why is that?
	And.
	And I have some thoughts on this.
	Well, first, let's listen.
	And I want to talk about that.
	I want to hear your thoughts.
	Because that is pretty much exactly the way it is now being drawn up.
	And, of course, both sides are playing it politically.
	And I can only imagine that, you know, whether you're for or against, there's money to be made both ways.
	That's the way I see it.
	But I guess we finally wrapped up that series on, I believe it was Showtime, Years of Living Dangerously.
	This is, as you recall, we played some clips.
	Thomas Friedman, who was a columnist, I believe, for the New York Times.
	Yes, Ward Winter.
	Yes, he was hosting this.
	He's the one that is probably, we talked about him before, he works for the CIA or one of the agencies.
	He doesn't say that, but it's pretty obvious.
	He comes in with the final episode, and he sits down with the president.
	And, of course, this is where we knock it out of the park, right?
	We've got a home run, so we've got to deliver.
	And I found this little dialogue to be astonishing.
	When you're dealing with a lot of those people in the House Republican caucus, climate skeptic at best, denier at worst, Every once in a while, you just want to go off on that.
	I mean, go off like a Roman candle.
	I was like, what is it with you people?
	I mean, you know, your kid is sick.
	You consult 100 doctors.
	97 of them tell you to do this.
	Three tell you to do that.
	And you want to go with the three.
	Isn't that lovely how they've now taken a percentage down to actual numbers?
	So it's gone from 97% to just three guys left.
	Yeah, and when we had the guy who did the Oregon petition of scientists, climate scientists, and everyone in between, who signed the petition saying this is bullcrap, 30,000!
	So if that's 30,000, then that represents 3%.
	You can't come up with that other number.
	Show me the other guys.
	Exactly.
	Not conservative.
	I mean, do you ever once in a while just want to...
	Yeah.
	Absolutely.
	It's frustrating when the science is in front of us.
	It's frustrating when the science is in front of us.
	And we can argue about how.
	But let's not argue about what's going on.
	The science is compelling.
	The baseline fact of climate change is not something that we can afford to deny.
	And if you profess leadership in this country at this moment in our history, then you've got to recognize that this is going to be one of the most significant long-term challenges, if not the most significant long-term challenge, that this country faces and the planet faces.
	The good news is that the public may Get out ahead of some of these politicians.
	And I think that as the public starts seeing greater frequency of extreme weather events, as they start seeing that what used to be hundred year storms seem to be happening every year or two.
	Lots of great performatives and, you know, the science is compelling, you know, seem to be some really good words he uses here.
	And you start seeing the economics of inaction.
	Then people start thinking, you know what?
	We're going to reward politicians who talk to us honestly and seriously about this problem.
	Shut up already!
	It's science!
	Don't be a denier!
	The science is in!
	Science!
	So this, I found out to be quite disturbing.
	It's very disturbing, and there's nothing you can do about it.
	I was disturbed with those clips from last show.
	And it's like there's, it's the weirdest thing, I'm telling you, it's one of the weirdest phenomenons I've ever seen.
	I mean, I think this is weirder than the Beanie Baby thing, which I've equated with Bitcoin.
	And let's be honest.
	I thought that was weird.
	I'm telling you, during that Beanie Baby phase, I was doing that show Silicon Spin, and people would come on, and we'd get into heated debates about it.
	And at that point, we also thought the Beanie Babies was the end of civilization.
	Well, there's that.
	It's a huge debate.
	Oh, no, these are valuable.
	These are going to be worth a lot of money.
	No, this is very wise to invest in these.
	No, you're nuts to think of.
	It's the same thing with Webvan.
	It's like, how are you going to make money delivering all this food like this from this one company?
	Oh, no, no, this is the new economy.
	They were all in on the new economy.
	If you remember, the new economy accounted for everything.
	The new economy, yeah.
	Collapsed in 2000 and put the country into a tailspin we've never recovered from.
	Yep, the new economy.
	It's the Y2K, another one.
	Everyone's all in on this Y2K. Oh, the ATM machines are going to fail.
	The power grid's going to go down.
	All these horrible things are going to happen.
	It's a known fact.
	You have to be super cautious.
	You have to buy into this.
	Otherwise, you're taking a huge chance.
	You're being irresponsible by mocking it.
	My public company at the time Think New Ideas.
	We were on NASDAQ, but there was a mandate For all public companies to be Y2K compliant.
	You could not get out of it.
	And we had Windows and Macs, yet we had to have an audit.
	It might have cost us $60,000.
	Everybody paid a huge price for this bull crap, and it contributed to the economic collapse in 2000-2001.
	We had clients, Reebok, Anheuser-Busch, Johnson& Johnson.
	And they required us, of course, ultimately they paid for it, but they required us to prove and go through compliance that the code that was running for their websites, I mean, please, for Budweiser.com, okay, that it was Y2K compliant.
	A website?
	Yes, yes, yes.
	We had to hire Boston Consulting Group.
	That's when we said, we're in the wrong business.
	We've got to be Boston Consulting Group.
	This is great.
	And they turned around and just hired a whole bunch of other consultants.
	Yeah, it's a consultant's dream come true.
	Yeah, and it's just bullcrap.
	But, you know, there's a lot going on with this, and we now have...
	I've got to take Eric, the constitutional lawyer, out to dinner again, because he does a lot of these permitting in Texas for gas-powered energy plants, power plants, and he deals with this.
	So I'm going to have to ask him about the new EPA regulations, and it's really quite insane.
	The stuff that's going on with what the EPA... Now it's a power mower.
	With what the EPA has.
	What they can do.
	It's just...
	Now the whole thing is...
	Don't raise your voice.
	Don't raise the sea level.
	Raise your voice.
	Don't raise the sea level.
	This whole thing about acidification.
	Actually, there was a great article written by...
	I didn't know who this guy was.
	Eric S. Raymond?
	No.
	You don't know who that is?
	It's funny.
	He wrote...
	He's kind of like the opposite of Richard Stallman.
	I don't know him.
	Really?
	Yeah.
	Well, I didn't know him either until I saw the picture.
	I'm like, yeah, I guess he wrote...
	There's like two sides to open source.
	There's the Stallman, which is everything should be free, free, free.
	And then there's Raymond, Eric Raymond, who says it should be open source, but you should be able to make money on it.
	Yeah, I'm looking at his picture.
	I don't think I've ever seen him.
	Interesting.
	He's also part of the VI versus Emacs wars and...
	Maybe he's more like a eunuchs geek culture.
	I just don't know about him.
	I couldn't really place him.
	There's a picture of him when you go to Google and you type in Eric S. Raymond.
	And out of the blue, there's a picture of him making out with some woman.
	Good.
	You see that picture?
	He's like kissing some hottie in a tight blouse.
	So the guy's got something going on.
	He's cross-eyed.
	He's funny.
	Bald.
	Yeah.
	You know, drop out, but has done well.
	The chat room knows him, of course.
	So he wrote this article, Hoping for the Crazy, which is about the global warming scam.
	And it's short, but it's pretty good.
	I put it in the show notes.
	You should check it out.
	And...
	I guess if he doesn't engender enough hatred, that'll finish him off.
	What he specifically points out is that the article is titled Hoping for the Crazy, and what he's saying is that the alarmists, the warmists, the global warming all-in, the science is in, they are praying for El Nino.
	They desperately want El Nino to happen this year because, of course, El Nino will change the world's weather.
	It does all the time.
	Yeah, it warms everything.
	You get crazy, just crazy storms.
	And they're praying.
	That's why I said the title of the article is Hoping for the Crazy.
	It'll be interesting to see if it pops up.
	It's going to get worse.
	There was a thing on C-SPAN about six months ago.
	It was one of those little meetings at one of the think tanks.
	And it was a guy who was discussing computer simulations and computer modeling, which most of this global warming fear is based on.
	Yeah, models that don't pan out.
	models that don't pan out.
	And he discussed the danger.
	He says, this, this should, this apparently, and it was unfortunately the guy was a very boring speaker.
	I couldn't clip anything, but his thesis was, these should never be used for policy ever because they're, they're just, it's a, it's a crapshoot with these computer models.
	Of course.
	But, you know, and we've seen it with so many things, but right at the top is the models that have been adjusted, readjusted, that have been massaged.
	We had the ClimateGate emails.
	And so many people, it's for politicians, particularly now they've put this 2030 date out there, which is a date that we called on the show.
	We said, oh, just watch 2030.
	It's going to be that.
	And it's great because politicians can say anything they want, and probably most of them won't be in office by 2030.
	Some of them won't even be alive.
	So it's really easy.
	It's really easy to just say stuff like that and, you know, but big mistakes get made.
	And I'm, you know, On the other hand, this is why I want to hear your opinion about how it's completely political.
	I can also see a strategy, an overall strategy, which failed for Kleiner Perkins, by the way.
	But let's make this myth, or this...
	Not even that climate change is a myth, but let's turn this into the economy.
	I don't know if it can actually work.
	But if everyone was believing something like this, maybe we could all be working towards that and it would spin stuff up.
	And what do you think?
	I think they had their opportunity.
	I think there was an earlier in the climate change debate, I think they had more of the people's will.
	And I think as opposed to the kind of what you're observing, which is who cares, I think that was bigger than when, in fact, Kleiner Perkins went all in on green technologies.
	Clean tech and green.
	There was a consultant to help them out, and they tanked all these companies.
	It was a complete disaster.
	I mean, essentially, Kleiner Perkins isn't even in the, you know, they're not even a player, essentially, anymore.
	They're still a big name, but they haven't made any money for anybody.
	As opposed to some of the guys who stayed with tech, which is what they knew.
	Pure tech.
	Even that barely.
	And so I think that that's past.
	I think these guys are living in the past to think that any of this is going to work.
	All they're going to do is they're going to screw things up to such a point that they're going to have to eventually, and this will be probably around 2020, elect a Republican after Elizabeth Warren comes in and makes things worse.
	She's going to be the Jimmy Carter of this era.
	Oh, wow.
	She is.
	You can just see it.
	Please, please, artists, if you're thinking of making a Jimmy Carter, Elizabeth Warren art, don't.
	We're not going to use it.
	Don't.
	I'm not going to use it.
	Then when they get back into 2020, kind of the way Ronald Reagan did, they're going to have to reverse all these policies.
	I mean, a lot of these things go way out, and they just, you know, they take over the place for a little while and kick some ass and get these policies the best, you know, best they can, although a lot of this will already be sending us down the wrong road.
	But this is...
	This is terrible.
	Living in the past in this global warming thing is not going to pay off for anybody.
	It's going to hurt us, hurt the country.
	The Chinese aren't doing any of it.
	They're just going on their merry way.
	Oh, yeah.
	Well, they're Chiners.
	Something interesting happened, which I find interesting for a reason that I've not seen discussed anywhere in the mainstream, which is why I believe most people listen to this program, often known as the best podcast in the universe.
	So apparently, Eric Cantor, who was...
	Now, was he going to be the speaker?
	What was his deal?
	No, he was the majority leader.
	Majority leader, right, for the Republicans.
	And he would be the speaker if, you know, if Boehner stands down, he would have been the next speaker.
	So arguably a powerful guy within whatever the Republican Party is.
	Right, I do have a clip that kind of just sums it up.
	Very good.
	Okay, the wiped out?
	Cantor wiped out.
	Breaking tonight a stunning development on this primary election night.
	If you are just joining us, one of the most powerful Republicans in Washington has just lost his congressional bid to a Tea Party challenger who virtually no one expected to.
	Welcome to The Kelly File, everyone.
	I'm Megan Kelly.
	The news breaking just a short time ago that House Majority Leader Eric Cantor has been defeated by Dave Bratt, a little-known and little-funded political novice.
	Mr.
	Cantor was first elected to Congress in 2000 and became Majority Leader in 2011.
	His opponent accused him of turning his back on his constituents.
	Alright, I don't give too much of a crap about the whole story, except for one angle.
	And I think the narrative is being spun purposely to say, well, it was about immigration or whatever it was.
	I have no idea.
	Maybe, you know, who knows why this brat guy won.
	But one thing we know...
	Is that he did it with, I think, $200,000 in total.
	And the joke is he spent about $120,000 of the $200,000.
	Right.
	He didn't even spend it all.
	Eric Cantor had millions of dollars.
	I think he had $2 million.
	And he spent $2.2 million.
	He spent it all.
	And I looked it up on OpenSecrets.org.
	Koch brothers!
	Apparently, no matter how much money they have, they can't buy the country!
	This is not being talked about.
	No, that is the overlooked fact.
	I mean, they do mention it.
	They talk about...
	But they don't really bring up the simple point that you can't necessarily buy an election because Cantor got like 20...
	For all his money he spent, he could have just given people 10 or 20 dollar bill.
	He only picked up 25,000 votes.
	Yeah.
	Total.
	in this district, which I think has a, I don't know, it's like a quarter of a million or a half a million people in the district or more.
	And he gets 25,000 votes.
	The other guy gets 35,000, which is 10 more for less money.
	And it was, I think, either issue-based or there was a lot of talk radio there.
	The guy got a lot of free air time on talk radio.
	You know what?
	I don't care.
	All I know is he did it with a tenth of the money, and a lot of the Cantor money came from the Koch brothers.
	So everybody can now stop saying the Koch brothers run the country.
	You can say that they should stop saying it.
	Yes.
	And, of course, I don't really want them to stop saying it because, you know...
	You lose the theme.
	I mean, honestly, it's too much fun.
	It's too much fun to play that.
	Meanwhile, what no one has even discussed, really, two bills were signed into law by the president.
	Stop before you...
	I just thought...
	The funny thing is...
	The way they portray the Koch brothers is...
	Hold on, you said it.
	Koch brothers!
	When you say it, I gotta play it.
	Conservatives, crazy conservative maniacs, and this Tea Party guy, who's actually a professor at a college, a university nearby, was the conservative character that would probably epitomize, it seems to me, what the Koch brothers would be for.
	So...
	So even that generality doesn't hold in this.
	This Koch brothers thing is ludicrous.
	Yeah, but it's fun to have an evil player, right?
	It's fun to have an evil player.
	Where's their donation?
	Really?
	Really?
	The President signed two bills into law, and it was Mr.
	Obama, not Mrs.
	Obama.
	As we know, CNN thinks that she signs bills into law, but she didn't do this one.
	And the one that was of interest to me, 182 pages, H.R. 3080, known as WURDA, the Water Resources Reform and Development Act of 2014.
	This is a very, very, very bad piece of legislation.
	And I think we should be concerned.
	As this particular bill, and I've marked it, it's a very heady one.
	I've marked it up and it's in the show notes as usual.
	It includes a large loan guarantee, hundreds of millions, to cities and states to create Public and private partnerships for water management.
	Essentially privatization of public water supplies.
	Exactly.
	Now that it's signed, it requires the Army Corps of Engineers to solicit, through the Federal Register, proposals from private corporations regarding, quote, water resources development needs.
	Now, this is very troubling.
	The last thing, I think even like Paris, you know, Paris would sell out everything if they had to, but the Parisians themselves have gone into battle over privatization of their water.
	You cannot allow that to happen.
	Well, the funny thing is it's a French company that's promoting this.
	They're so good at it.
	We had a...
	This situation is up in the Pacific Northwest where this French company has moved in on the PUD and have brought in...
	You know, they meet with all these idiots that run these small cities and, you know, mostly corrupt little operations and they come in and, you know...
	Show them a good time and have a slideshow showing how much money you'd save if you use their services instead of the public services.
	And they're making inroads.
	This one company, I'll have to get the name of it for the next show.
	I'll get the name.
	They are a huge French conglomerate that does this.
	And I am really against this type of move.
	I don't care who it is.
	There are a few things that really should not be left to private companies.
	Especially French private companies.
	Exactly.
	And we saw that in California when they took over the power grid and you had these Enron guys and these other people that were controlling the flow of energy.
	And we had these rolling blackouts.
	During one of the administrations, a Democrat, Gray Davis, the governor, we were stuck because the Democrats are all in on that we're doomed.
	Oh, looks like for the rest of the world, we're going to have to get used to it.
	We have to get used to the rolling blackouts and the brownouts.
	Every day there's going to be a blackout, there's going to be a brownout.
	And then they found it was a scam.
	Huge scam.
	And that guy, of course, was voted out by a recall election, which is pretty embarrassing.
	He got voted out because he was an idiot.
	And it was a huge scam and a scandal.
	And there was no reason for these blackouts.
	It was just to jack up the prices and screw the public.
	That's what these guys will do.
	So now we have this...
	I mean, when you have public-private partnerships, it's bullshit.
	They had this in the Netherlands when I lived there, when I had money.
	And I always had the Amsterdam government, yeah, we can do a public-private partnership.
	What exactly does that mean?
	Well, that means you spend all the money and you get all the profits and we give you the licenses to do it exclusively.
	It was about a skating rink.
	Yeah, it's giving a legal monopoly.
	Yeah.
	That's the problem we're having right now.
	People are arguing about net neutrality when they should be arguing about why does Comcast own the area?
	It's funny you bring that up.
	Time Warner.
	Why does Time Warner own Texas?
	Yeah, and it's the municipalities.
	They've made deals, anti-competitive deals.
	It's funny you bring that up.
	Dave Jones, who does the whole Freedom Controller, he's in all the programming.
	I was talking, he's a systems administrator, of course.
	And he said, I wrote down what he said.
	He said, you know, bandwidth that any broadband provider has promised is very much like state pensions.
	You just keep promising and promising, and then somewhere at the end of the day, everybody wants their pension or their bandwidth, and it's really not there.
	The promise is just a promise.
	And when you look at the wireless LTE broadband, which you get 50 megabits per second on that.
	Why?
	Because there's a cap on it, and people don't want to screw up their billing, and so they're more conservative.
	And it works!
	Without any legislation that'll basically make the incumbents utilities.
	And by the way, just the fact that there are LTE broadband providers means you have alternatives.
	It's just people don't like to think of it that way because they've been lied to about some fictional flat pricing all you can eat.
	And just think about it.
	You're going to get these French guys running your water and believe me, prices will change.
	You can't leave your tap open all day.
	Drinking my Netflix water?
	You can't do that.
	Oh, it's going to suck so bad, man, when we get that.
	But if they take the fluoride out, I'll be all for it.
	That'll be a plus.
	You could drill a well.
	In some areas, it's illegal.
	You can't even drill a well on your own property.
	What do you think of these machines that take the humidity out of the air and turn it into drinking water?
	You ever looked at those?
	Yeah, dehumidifying.
	Yeah.
	Is that any good?
	I don't think you can get that with the pants.
	If you're in a high humidity area, you can probably get quite a bit of water out of it.
	But is that good drinking?
	Desalinization is the long-term solution.
	You mean just taking salt water and...
	They need a new technology to do that.
	Okay.
	Somebody always mentioned, I don't know if it tastes any good.
	If anyone gets to go on a Navy ship and they have a really good modern desalinization system on board, drink the water.
	It's absolutely fantastic tasting.
	Alright, here is the commercial that the tweeters were full of.
	Most emailed article, I don't know if If you saw the actual ad for this product.
	But I think pretty much everybody who emailed it to me provided a WTF comment of the bodyguard blanket.
	Well, I put it in a newsletter.
	Yeah, but did you see the commercial?
	No.
	Just an ordinary day.
	Parents are going to work.
	Children are finding their seats in the classroom, turning in homework, and talking to friends.
	Dedicated teachers like Amanda Brown are calling the roll, answering questions, and preparing her students for a morning math test.
	Just an ordinary day.
	That is, until now.
	Attention, attention, all teachers.
	This is not a drill.
	Shelter in place, you fool!
	Shelter in place!
	Prepare your students for a fully comprehensive...
	Over the last few years, parents, children, and school educators have been devastated by tragedies of all kinds.
	Tornadoes have destroyed schools and caused the lives of boys and girls to end before they've hardly begun.
	Families have been overwhelmed with loss and sadness.
	And crazed gunmen have entered our schools prepared to kill our children and teachers.
	When these calamities occur, our children are most often left helpless and afraid.
	They are instructed to follow standard school practices that depend merely on hope that damaging weather or those who want to do harm don't find them.
	Now, this goes on for another minute.
	This is insane.
	It's basically a bulletproof vest that is in the form of a big square blanket.
	You put over yourself.
	You put over...
	Wow, and it's a thousand bucks a pop.
	Yeah, no, this is ludicrous, because if you've seen any of these photos, which are all over the net, and if you were a guy with, say, an automatic gun or any sort of gun, you either pull off the blank and shoot the kid, or you just shoot on the floor and let it slide down and kill a bunch of them, you know, as ricochet, or whatever.
	I mean, these don't protect anybody unless somebody's firing into it.
	Completely insane.
	And you're a sitting duck.
	Yeah, with a big orange target on your back.
	Yeah, a big orange target.
	Hey, shoot me.
	Why do they make them orange?
	What's the point of that?
	I don't know.
	In case hunters are there and they don't want to think they're a deer or something?
	Just the whole thing.
	And this commercial, though, does this really sell this product?
	Not to me.
	It doesn't sell to me.
	No, but we're not the zombies.
	Well, anyway, this all, of course, comes on the heels of what, if you look at it from a little distance, and I actually did something interesting as an experiment.
	I locked myself out from all media for the entire Tuesday.
	And then, because I knew stuff was happening.
	Then I jumped back into it Wednesday.
	So I got kind of an interesting view of A Tuesday-less view.
	Yeah, an aggregation of all of the commentary of the multiple shootings.
	Of course, all of these end somehow in suicide, or not, or not sure, or we're definitely not seeing anything.
	Which is irksome at best, and then, you know, it's a suicide, and then it's not a suicide, but we have video, but we can't show you video, because, you know, just like the Boston Bomber.
	This is CNN, actually.
	Let's see what Brolf's friend here is learning.
	Brolf in Las Vegas.
	Kyung, tell us about what you learned.
	What did you learn, girl?
	Well, in this news conference, there were quite a few details, and one of the most stunning was the surveillance tape that was released.
	I want to explain what you're about to see, because we're only going to play it once.
	This is interesting.
	We're only going to play this once.
	So I'm like, okay, here we go.
	I'm recording.
	I'm ready to see it.
	Don't want to be gratuitous about it.
	It's about 17 seconds long.
	Don't want to be gratuitous.
	And the video you're about to see, the two people who are identified as the gunman.
	The man is Jared Miller.
	He's further away from the video screen.
	Closer to the screen is his wife, Amanda Miller.
	They're cornered in the Walmart.
	They have debris around them that they're using to try to barricade themselves from the police.
	Jared Miller has already been shot.
	Take a look at this video.
	And what you're seeing is his wife lifts her pistol and she is holding it up to him.
	It appears that she is about to fire and shoot him, but she does not.
	Officers say, you're not looking at any weapons being discharged between these two.
	She then turns the weapon towards herself.
	The video fades to black as she shoots herself in the head.
	Now, hold on a second.
	I'm thinking, what?
	You're only going to show this once and it contains nothing.
	She points the gun kind of in his direction, then maybe she's turning around and fades to black.
	Oh, don't show it to me again because, man, I might be shocked by that video.
	We saw nothing!
	So why did police release this video?
	Yeah, why?
	Yeah, why?
	So you could play it with such drama.
	This video.
	They want people to understand that she did not shoot her husband out as they first reported in their news conference and that officers initially did think that happened because it certainly appears that way if you look at this video.
	There is a lot of video evidence officers say they don't want to release it all because it is so detailed and so violent.
	Again, why can't we see this?
	How violent is it?
	It's the same with Santa Barbara.
	No, we can't see the kid who got shot in the grocery store.
	No!
	If you go on YouTube, you can see Syrians shooting people in the head from behind.
	Every kid has seen this.
	Back in the day, we had Faces of Death.
	Remember that video, Faces of Death?
	My favorite.
	I'm reminded of the 911 calls from Sandy Hook.
	Same thing.
	We can't play these, and we got them and played them on our show.
	What was on there?
	One teacher got shot in the foot, and a custodian was running around saying, custodian, custodian.
	There were long clips and there was nothing of any concern on those tapes.
	But they painted sound as if there was.
	What was the point of that?
	And let's go back further.
	The Boston Bombers.
	Where's the tape?
	Even the governor of the state of Massachusetts has not seen the video of the Sarnoff brother putting the backpack into the trash can.
	By the way, there was a History Channel special, I think, where they showed that video.
	But it wasn't really that video, because in the left-hand corner it said, Simulation.
	It was kind of a composite they put together and made it look like it, but it was really small on the left-hand corner.
	So, whether this is true or not, we're not seeing it.
	We're only being told about it.
	Now, add to this the...
	I'll just have to call it coincidence.
	Coincidence?
	I think not!
	Of Eric Holder, two weeks ago, saying that he was enacting a domestic terrorism task force and team.
	Time Magazine, on the 5th of June, publishing an article about how Australia...
	Australia did a big gun buyback after they had this mass shooting.
	I think 28 people were killed.
	I'm going back 2006 or 2007, I think.
	And of course, Australia doesn't have a constitutional right to bear arms.
	And then all of these things just kind of start to play together.
	And we get a number of a succession of messages from MSNBC was, I mean, if they had more people watching would make a difference, I think.
	But clearly they got some memo and, you know, here we must do this.
	Some guy was filling in on the Ed show.
	I don't know who he is.
	But he just he laid it out plain and simple.
	Another neighbor said that Jared Miller spoke of overthrowing the government often.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	Jared was a very controlling man.
	Always wanted to talk about overthrowing the government, how Obama is, he's disgusting.
	This is what we call teacup television, where you hear the voiceover say, look at the teacup, and you see a teacup.
	So this guy just said, the neighbor said he wanted to overthrow the government, and then the neighbor says, he wanted to overthrow the government.
	It's just reinforcements, how reality shows are made.
	See what I mean?
	You ain't got to be a genius to figure out the correlation between the two.
	At this point, the motive of the shooting is not entirely clear to law enforcement.
	Officials did say they believe the swastika was a symbol equating law enforcement.
	This is another thing.
	So we have two cops shot dead, point-blank range, in a coffee shop, apparently.
	A flag, the Gadsden flag that don't tread on me is thrown over them with a swastika.
	Now, there's a lot of blood, there's a lot of people around, but not a single video, not a single iPhone video, nothing, nothing on YouTube, nothing!
	No flag picture, nothing.
	That's just so...
	Peculiar.
	To fascism.
	We don't necessarily believe that they are white supremacists or associated with the Nazi movement.
	This is the cops speaking.
	We believe that they equate government and law enforcement fascism and those who support it with Nazis.
	Now, this is also new that in a press conference, before any, you know, the details are barely in that we have a police chief Giving an assessment, essentially, of two suspects who are dead, who he has not questioned.
	You know, the only people who's done any questioning, I guess, is the media.
	It's very interesting that he's saying this.
	That constant drumbeat from our neighbors to the right who consider government the problem and not the solution.
	I believe he's talking about the Republicans.
	I think it's delegitimizing?
	No, legitimatizing.
	Delegitimatizing.
	It's not legitimating.
	We know that.
	That's pretty funny.
	The problem and not the solution.
	Who are constantly delegitimating and vilifying elected officials.
	Who are constantly holding those that they disagree with in the kind of most ridiculous and disrespectful light.
	This is the consequence of your behavior and your belief.
	Oh, yeah, it's your fault, Republicans.
	Reports show this shooting may have been a show of violence against the government.
	I think it's fair to call this event an act of domestic terrorism.
	Had it been a Muslim person, we would have rushed to do so.
	Because as an American citizen, we are loath to do so.
	This, my friends, is an unmistakable act of domestic terrorism.
	All right.
	Who are they terrorizing?
	The peoples.
	The peoples of the United States.
	Okay, so now a lot of people swing into action.
	Now it gets interesting.
	Ronan on MSNBC. This is the Sinatra kid.
	You're spending too much time watching this network, but go on.
	We're the only developed country on earth where this happens.
	And it happens now once a week.
	And it's a one-day story.
	There's no place else like this.
	The president is talking, of course, about gun violence.
	He was speaking yesterday at a Tumblr Q&A. Same day that a 14-year-old freshman with a semi-automatic rifle shot and killed a student and injured a T-shirt at Reynolds High School in Oregon.
	T-shirt?
	A T-shirt?
	A 26-year-old man killed one student and wounded two others with a shotgun at Seattle Pacific University.
	And a little over two weeks after the mass shooting near UC Santa Barbara left six dead, four of them by shooting.
	According to the gun control organization Everytown.org, there have been at least 74 school shootings since the 2012 mass shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School killed 20 children and six adults.
	By the way, that number 74 has been debunked everywhere.
	And while we're on the roll, let's go to Democracy Now and play the Oregon Obama clip and hear that number again.
	Got a small O. It's throwing me off, the small O. It's not the only country that has...
	No, no, no.
	That's Oregon-Obama clip.
	Oh.
	It's okay, because I have the clip.
	Okay.
	They're from Democracy Now?
	No, I have the Tumblr interview clip.
	This is different.
	I have Oregon shooting Obama expanded stutter.
	Well, I have Oregon shooting Obama stammer.
	Obama stammer?
	Yeah, play the Obama stammer.
	Obama stammer.
	It's not the only country that has...
	And then we have Expanded.
	This is the whole clip with all the stuttering.
	It's a psychosis.
	Very cute.
	All right.
	So here is, and it's funny because it's exactly the same words and pretty much the same stammer as the Tumblr interview.
	So he was doing a Tumblr interview with a bunch of youngins and the Tumblr guy, David, whoever that is, with questions that were written down.
	So no one in the audience is asking the questions.
	And it's about the student loans, which is a huge scam by itself.
	Hey, guess what?
	Instead of 10 years, you get to pay it off in 20 years, but you'll pay more money.
	It's a scam of the highest order.
	Where's Elizabeth Warren now?
	Well, she'll be all over that when you watch.
	So, of course, someone writes in with the question, coincidentally, about what do you think about these shootings, President?
	We're the only developed country on Earth where this happens.
	So, same words.
	And it happens now once a week.
	And it's a one-day story.
	There's no place else like this.
	A couple of decades ago, Australia had a mass shooting, similar to Columbine or Newtown.
	I'm sorry.
	That is bullcrap.
	It was not at a school.
	This was a very famous event known as the So Famous That I Can't Find It in My Show Notes.
	I think 38 people were killed.
	But this guy was running around for hours, going to different places.
	It was not a school.
	It was not children.
	It was people of...
	It was bad.
	But it was not like Columbine or Newtown.
	Sorry, that is just not true.
	And...
	Australia just said, well, that's it.
	We're not seeing that again.
	That's not exactly what happened.
	It's not anything.
	This is classic, classic propaganda.
	It's the Port Arthur massacre, by the way.
	1996.
	Martin Bryant killed 35 people around Port Arthur on Wounded 21 before being caught by police the next day following an overnight siege.
	Since then, there's been all kinds of crap going on, but then they did a big gun buyback.
	So it's just not the same.
	It's just not equatable.
	And the Australian people didn't just say...
	In fact, gun ownership has not really gone down, if you look at the numbers.
	It doesn't matter, because this data, if someone is contrarian to your view about weapons and guns and having them versus not having them, don't try to talk to them about it.
	It's pointless, useless, and it won't work.
	But the facts are that the only thing that diminished in Australia was suicide.
	Less people committed suicide because they didn't have a gun around handy.
	And yes, I think less kids would kill themselves with a loaded weapon that they found carelessly left about.
	But not necessarily less gun violence.
	And there are still guns in Australia.
	And basically imposed very severe, tough gun laws.
	And they haven't had a mass shooting since.
	I mean, our levels of gun violence are off the charts.
	There's no advanced developed country on earth that would put up with this.
	And this is very interesting.
	This, by the way, is exactly the same wording he used on the clip that was shown on Democracy Now with all the stuttering.
	Yeah.
	He was working, and I was trying to memorize this before with the stuttering.
	That's when you hear him doing all that blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
	In fact, it's outrageous amount of stammering in that one, the regular Obama clip.
	I also find it interesting that he says this.
	We're the only country in the world.
	We're also the only country in the world that just killed 16 people with a fucking drone yesterday in Waziristan.
	Is that okay?
	Yeah, the whole thing is his fault.
	He's the moral leader, and he's killing Americans with drones.
	He has his drone list.
	He's murdering people for all practical purposes.
	Five servicemen.
	And he's bitching about...
	The violence in the country.
	Five servicemen were killed in Afghanistan this week, apparently by friendly fire, just to make it worse.
	Not a word about that.
	Not a word.
	So, you know, let's just talk about risk and reality here and what this really means.
	This is really pushing fear into people, and of course it sucks.
	This is not good.
	I know I don't have to pull out the analogy of how many people got maimed or killed on our roads in this week.
	I think it's more people were killed in traffic incidents.
	You know, this is nuts.
	And coming from the same guy who just killed 16 people, militants, by the way, and Taliban, you know, the guys who aren't really terrorists.
	So please, please don't insult me with this bullcrap.
	Now, we have a different tradition.
	No, no, it's not a tradition.
	This made me mad.
	It's not a tradition.
	It did make you mad.
	We have a different tradition.
	We have a different setup for our country.
	It's called the Constitution.
	It's not a tradition.
	It's not like Christmas, which is also being kicked out.
	Tradition.
	We have a Second Amendment.
	We have historically...
	I think if you say that, and this is my first tradition, is my freedom of speech.
	My second tradition is my tradition to bear arms.
	Very, very stupid coming from a constitutional lawyer.
	Respected gun rights.
	I respect gun rights.
	Respect gun rights.
	It's not gun rights.
	I mean, this is blowing me away, John.
	Gun rights, traditions.
	But the idea that, for example, we couldn't even get a background check bill in to make sure that if you're going to buy a weapon, you have to actually go through a fairly rigorous process so that we know who you are.
	So you can't just walk up to a store and buy a semi-automatic weapon.
	Which, a revolver is a semi-automatic weapon.
	I mean, that's another weird thing.
	It makes no sense.
	Makes no sense.
	Now, just to piss me off even more...
	Until there is a fundamental shift in public opinion in which people say, enough.
	This is not acceptable.
	This is not normal.
	This isn't sort of the price we should be paying for our freedom.
	That we can have respect for the Second Amendment and responsible gun owners and sportsmen and hunters can have the ability to possess weapons,
	but that we are going to Put some common sense rules in place that make a dent, at least, in what's happening.
	Until that is not just the majority view, because that's already the majority view, even the majority of gun owners believe that.
	But until...
	You hear the Tumblr guy, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's right, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's right, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Even the majority of gun owners believe that.
	But until that's a view that people feel passionately about, And are willing to go after folks who don't, you know, vote reflecting those values.
	Until that happens, sadly, not that much is going to change.
	Sadly.
	Sadly.
	Okay.
	Um, so a lot of this is being driven by, um, whether it's, as Alex Jones would have you believe, a false flag!
	Because, of course, you know, one of these guys was at the Bundy Ranch and all this stuff, whatever.
	It's being politicized immediately by the Mayors Against Guns, which is a pretty well-funded operation.
	They go to work immediately.
	And my other favorite, the Southern Poverty Law Center, one of the best-funded nonprofits ever In the universe.
	They have $250 million in cash.
	We can't even get 25 people to help us do this show.
	$250 million in cash.
	And I'll kind of play this in reverse order.
	They've hired Vianovo.
	Not the Southern Poverty Law Center, but the Mayors Against Guns.
	Villanovo is a PR agency who recently hired, two years ago, Andrew Mitchell.
	Andrew Mitchell worked for the Department of Justice and was very instrumental in getting Holder confirmed, total Democrat on the inside shill.
	And he's going out...
	As some expert, not even being introduced as a PR spokeshole, just a guy who gets a lower third is Andrew Mitchell from Villanova.
	Okay.
	And Andrea Mitchell.
	I'm sorry, I said it wrong.
	It's Matthew Miller.
	I wrote it wrong here.
	Matthew Miller from Villanova.
	Back up.
	Back up.
	Yeah, so it's Matthew Miller from Villanova.
	I'm sorry.
	Okay, and Matthew Miller is the guy who got Holder done.
	Yes, and he was with DOJ for a while.
	You have Mitchell in your hands because he talked to Andrea Mitchell.
	My mistake.
	Okay.
	Yes, thank you.
	Andrea Mitchell is, who interviewed him, but without any setup of, you know, he's a spokeshole.
	No, no, no, no.
	Oftentimes, the flames are stoked by people with cynical motives who gin them up for votes, for ratings.
	And by the time law enforcement can get involved, it's really too late, either because there was no way to tell what they were going to do, or in a case like Las Vegas, it happens after there are already fatalities.
	We certainly saw this all the way back with Waco and when Bill Clinton was president, but to what extent, and this is a sensitive question, but I need to ask it, but to what extent was this Did this escalate because we have an African-American president?
	Because there are so many racist sentiments interwoven with their Nazi sentiments.
	It's a very difficult question.
	It's hard to know anyone's particular motives always, especially someone that carries out this kind of activity.
	But the Southern Poverty Law Center, you mentioned, has tracked that these types of anti-government groups have risen 800% since Obama took office.
	And if you look at some of the rhetoric on the right, it's not all motivated by race.
	Bill Clinton dealt with some of the same stuff, and he's obviously a white man from Arkansas.
	So it's not all race, but for some people it probably is a role.
	Okay, so we got the 800% in there.
	We got this is racial crime, although I don't believe anyone was African American who was killed.
	And he specifically points out that the Southern Poverty Law Center is tracking this 800% increase.
	Now, I have a pretty good memory, and I believe it was less than two months ago we had a clip from Mark Potok of the Southern Poverty Law Center, the $250 million in cash NGO non-profit thing.
	And he said something quite the opposite.
	Let's first talk about the analysis here that you've seen.
	Remember, this is two months ago on this very show.
	In this reversal after, and we've talked in the past, it seemed year after year these numbers were ticking up after the election of the first black president.
	That's true.
	They were growing based very largely on antipathy to Obama personally and to what he really represented, which was the demographic change that's going on in this country.
	The coming, over the next 30 years, loss of a white majority.
	The growth was absolutely spectacular for four years, but I think what really happened in part was...
	Remember, it dropped 19%.
	When the radical right saw Obama re-elected, after so much effort on their part, as well as other forces in the political arena, to kind of dethrone Obama, at this point their reaction was one of real deflation, of dejection.
	They had done everything they could.
	They did not expect to see Obama re-elected, and yet he was.
	And at the same time, of course, things like same-sex marriage are advancing very rapidly.
	And all of that, I think, is really dismaying to these groups.
	In your report, you identify what you say is, quote, patriot extremist groups.
	How do you describe or define those groups that are on the decline, though?
	So, remember, he had a report.
	That said that all of these patriot groups, hate groups, hate black groups, they were on the decline.
	19%.
	This is what him talking two months ago.
	Now he's back with Brolf with some new event and I don't think he quite remembers his own report.
	What do you make of this couple, Mark?
	Well, they're quite something.
	You know, I think that they did, or at least he did attend or was at the Bundy Ranch standoff, and very much was a part of that movement, the patriot movement, the movement that thinks the federal government is up to no good.
	This is so effed up.
	Nefariously plotting to force us into a one-world government and so on.
	Don't you dare talk about it because you're going to get arrested, son.
	You know, one thing I don't think they were was white supremacists.
	The swastika, I think, almost certainly was meant to say, the police are Nazis.
	This is exactly what the police chief said.
	So this is amazing.
	Everyone has this similar analysis on the day of.
	When you look at their writings, particularly his writings on Facebook, he is on and on and on about police being fascists, about them being Nazis, and so on.
	But aside from that, there's certainly nothing about the Jews or other kinds of white supremacist views.
	It's all about the government, about wanting to lay down his life for liberty.
	Just a day before the shooting began, his very last post, Which, of course, is proof that he wrote it.
	I mean, whenever it's on Facebook, that's proof.
	It's a fact.
	It was written by him.
	There's no doubt about it.
	Words to the effect of, a new day is dawning.
	You know, we can only hope that our sacrifices will be worth it.
	Is there some sort of pattern going on here?
	Are these just random, isolated events?
	Well, you know, it's hard to say what is isolated and what is part of a pattern.
	One thing that I think is pretty clear, Wolf, is that the Bundy standoff in which the BLM and federal law enforcement backed down at the point of weapons...
	Do you see where this is going, John?
	I'm listening, keep it going.
	It was seen as a massive victory by the patriot movement.
	I think that very large numbers of people, thousands, perhaps tens of thousands or even more people, saw what happened at the Bundy Ranch as a huge victory against the federal government and perhaps a kind of opening shot in the war that they all wish for and wait for with the government.
	Okay, apparently, let me just get this straight.
	These groups which are diminishing and which were completely demoralized and were down almost 20% because, you know, he got re-elected and we might as well give up.
	Now they've been waiting for a war with the government.
	And this is the beginning, this is the shock, the opening salvo for the war by the patriot movement, which by itself is, I mean, wow, what a way to take a word away from you, you know?
	You can't be a patriot anymore.
	If you're a patriot, you're now a domestic terrorist.
	This is very concerning.
	You've been studying these kinds of hate crimes for a long time.
	Is there a rise in this anti-government violence that we're now seeing?
	Now, wait a minute.
	We know that his report said just two months ago a decline of almost 20% across the board.
	What will his answer be?
	Yeah, I think there is.
	I'm not sure I could prove it statistically, but since Obama...
	I think there is, although I can't prove it statistically?
	How about your own report, man?
	...appeared on the scene in the fall of 2008.
	We've seen a very dramatic uptick in these kinds of things.
	Is that amazing or what?
	The guy is lying about his own numbers.
	His own numbers!
	Yeah, you know, he knows he'll get pulled back on the show again.
	He's never, you know, these guys gotta get a lot of profile to get that kind of money.
	And so he does what he's expected to do.
	This is common on these shows.
	You do what you're expected to do when you're the guest, you know, to yak about stuff.
	Yeah, but I... And that's what he did.
	He did what he's expected to do.
	So Anderson...
	Contradicts everything else.
	He said, but what?
	So what?
	Just the way it goes.
	Well, I can see the narrative being built, and what I find interesting is, I didn't pull any clips for some obvious reasons, but both MSNBC and CNN were bringing up Alex Jones as the one-world government guy.
	And it's so obvious that they're all in this game together.
	And we knew that going in.
	It's like, of course, they pull the clips of him yelling at Piers Morgan.
	It's like the perfect setup.
	Are we now supposed to be stupid that we don't understand how this is working?
	I mean, come on.
	It's borderline insulting.
	Well, it's not borderline.
	It is.
	So then the last two clips, this is a shorty, which of course brings us to another part of this.
	So we have the, we need to remove ammo.
	The president said that in his continuing clip there in the interview with Tumblr.
	Clearly, people who think there's something up with the government, they're trying to bring them into a one-world government.
	Yeah.
	Or the New World Order, I guess, as our own politicians say.
	And, of course, there's the war on crazy.
	You know, you're just nuts.
	The Van Police say he's responsible for last week's deadly shooting at SPU was charged today.
	Prosecutors will seek a life sentence for 26-year-old Aaron Ybarra.
	Ybarra told police that he had stopped taking his medication for psychosis six months before the shooting because he, quote, wanted to feel his hate.
	Okay, you better take your meds, slave!
	You gotta take him!
	Just take your medicine.
	Just take your medicine.
	Because if you don't take your meds, Anderson Pooper will show you what it's like to live with voices in your head.
	So I'm going to put these earphones in and they're going to try to do a series of tests.
	Don't.
	Okay, so I'm now hearing sort of whispers and voices in my head.
	And the first test is in some number puzzles.
	Listen.
	You suck, and they know it.
	This is a whole piece of Anderson Cooper.
	What is this?
	Anderson Cooper is going to show what it's like to live with psychosis.
	And he puts headphones on.
	This is a scientific test.
	They're talking to him.
	Yeah, they're saying that he sucks, and apparently that's what his voice is saying.
	You suck.
	And then he's asked to do some tasks, like walk around on the street and do puzzles and fold paper.
	While he's got his voice in the chat.
	And so we get a mix.
	How do people walk around listening to music on their iPads or iPod?
	Funny you say that.
	He brings this up.
	That's right.
	Okay.
	So I did this test for three minutes and I did not get a single one.
	It's very hard to concentrate when...
	If it's like music or something...
	He wears an IFB for God's sake!
	Just listen to it.
	It's very hard to...
	It's hard to concentrate when...
	If it's like music or something constant, it's easy, but...
	People talking to you is very difficult.
	Shut up!
	Listen, IFB! For people who know what IFB is, that is the little earpiece where the producer is literally talking to him while he is talking and counting them down into commercials.
	It's a skill.
	It's a skill.
	Handing questions, all kinds of stuff happens.
	And he's actually very good at this.
	Tom Brokaw is another guy.
	He is lying to the public when he says this is distracting him.
	He is trained not to be distracted by this sort of thing.
	And he's saying that he's getting nothing right.
	But also, I like what they've made up.
	The voice in your head is apparently saying, you suck.
	You're no good.
	Kill all humans.
	Kill all humans.
	Shut up!
	I want to talk back to the voices now, but it's really distracting.
	And by the way, shut up is a common thing that the producers yell in your ear.
	Yeah, exactly.
	Shut up now!
	Do not touch that.
	Stop.
	This is a brilliant piece.
	I could not make it a...
	Well, it's in the show notes, the link to the video.
	What are you looking at?
	And this is edited, believe me.
	This is easy.
	You want to touch that?
	I can't do this.
	But it's just, it's really hard to, it's hard to focus when kind of people are whispering to you and talking to you.
	He found an IFB! But now he's on the street.
	And there's a whispering.
	Just come clear.
	With echo.
	Come here to me.
	Come here for help.
	Come here, Anderson.
	Kill Brolf.
	Kill Brolf.
	Hey, do you have yesterday's paper?
	He asked for yesterday's paper to prove that he is now insane from the voices.
	Ask for yesterday's paper.
	Yesterday's New York Times?
	No.
	No?
	Okay.
	I'll just get today's.
	It's really, it's incredibly distracting on the street to have somebody talk in your head, and it makes you feel completely isolated from everyone else around you, and...
	You don't want to engage in conversation with other people.
	You kind of find yourself wanting to engage in conversation with a voice in your head, because they're constantly really negative.
	How about audiobooks?
	People must go on shooting rampages when they listen to Audible.
	That shit should be outlawed.
	Talking to you and everything they're saying relates to things that you're actually doing.
	They're criticizing things you're doing.
	It's like you have a chorus watching you.
	Your mother hates you, Anderson.
	Commenting on what you're doing and you can't help it.
	I literally find myself wanting to kind of respond to them.
	You'll always be second rate, Anderson.
	Wolf makes more money than you.
	Kind of tell them to be quiet, and it's incredibly unpleasant.
	This is a very, very unpleasant experiment.
	Eyes down.
	Back up.
	Stand up now.
	This is crazy.
	And why does it have to be this kind of Long Island woman, you know?
	And stand up.
	Back up.
	Do this now!
	I'll cut you off.
	I'll cut you off.
	20, 30, 40.
	Stand up now.
	Walk away.
	You're okay.
	Walk now.
	It's okay, Anderson.
	- On to pacify.
	On to pacify. - Wow. - And that just went on for hours and hours.
	I only clipped two minutes of it.
	Like five minutes of him walking around trying to fold paper and...
	Well, anyway, this is the same messaging.
	We're going to have to be stuck with this.
	Yeah, I'm afraid so.
	You know, there was something you mentioned in there I want to talk about for a second.
	Because there's some other messaging going on, and I couldn't figure out what it was, and I didn't do any...
	It's okay to collect things, John.
	It's okay.
	Oh, I've already known that.
	So, you mentioned the friendly fire incident.
	Yes.
	So, I have a clip from PBS. I call it a peculiar PBS, and the PBS is in the lower case, you can't miss it.
	What's the actual definition of that?
	Friendly fire means that you...
	No, no, but there's a word they use for it.
	There is?
	Yeah, I'll look it up.
	Okay, look it up.
	Anyway, I was listening to this report, and there was something very peculiar about this report, and there was somebody telling somebody something.
	I couldn't figure out what it was or why it was, but I'll explain it after we play this.
	I'm sorry, which clip is it?
	This is the one that's got the PBS. Oh, in lowercase.
	Afghan forces were carrying out a clearing operation in Zabul province, which is one of the more unsecure provinces in the country.
	And according to Afghan officials, when the troops were on their way back to the base from this operation, they came under attack by Taliban militants.
	At that point, they called in for air support, and the airstrike apparently hit the friendly forces, killing five U.S. troops and one Afghan force.
	NATO and U.S. officials have not officially confirmed that it was a friendly fire incident.
	They have indicated they're investigating that.
	However, Afghan officials said the airstrike hit the friendly forces, again killing five U.S. and one Afghan troops.
	So it's not confirmed, but it sounds like the evidence points to friendly fire.
	Is it known what type of aircraft?
	Reports are that it was a B-1 bomber, so this is not an Apache helicopter or a gunship or something like that.
	It's interesting because the reports from the Taliban, I believe, were that it was helicopter gunships.
	That's why he's dispelling that, but the...
	I don't know why there's some discrepancy there.
	Well, here's a couple of things that I thought were weird.
	One, I've never heard them ever ask a question like that.
	Right.
	What was the aircraft?
	Yeah, well, that's because...
	I've never heard that.
	Yeah, that's because of the discrepancy, yeah.
	So he responds with B-1 bomber.
	I didn't know there were B-1 bombers in that theater at all.
	Maybe there were tons of them.
	I have no idea.
	But a B-1 bomber is not normally, it seems to me, the kind of thing you'd call out.
	Because that's a big plane.
	You know, it's like bringing in a B-52 to just take out a couple of rebels.
	So that doesn't make any sense.
	I mean, if it does make more sense, it would be a helicopter.
	But what was the point of saying there was a B-1 bomber in the area?
	I don't know.
	I just thought it was out of the blue.
	It was a question I've never heard asked before.
	B-1 bomber came in out of the blue.
	I didn't know anything about that.
	There's something weird about that particular little exchange, and I just threw it out there.
	I have no idea what it is.
	Maybe somebody can help us.
	So I'm trying to...
	I know I had a story about this.
	Which included, hold on one second, which included the word that I'm also looking for, which is the friendly fire word.
	Hold on, let me look it up here.
	And I do know that there's some discrepancy That the Afghan, whoever they were fighting, was it Taliban?
	Who was it?
	That was unclear.
	Probably Taliban.
	Who else would it be?
	That they said, you know, helicopter gunships came in and, you know, killed their own guys.
	And then for some reason, you know, that's not the right answer.
	And we have to say the B-1 bomber.
	I don't know.
	I do know that...
	By coincidence, the Congress voted to retire the, I think it's called the Warthog, the A-10.
	Right.
	Which apparently is the most precise aircraft that's really, really, really good at doing this kind of stuff.
	Right.
	So maybe that is something to do with...
	Like for carpet bombing Vietnam.
	Yes.
	B-1 bomber is a...
	And it's a high-flying...
	Yeah, it doesn't seem like the kind of thing you'd engage for that.
	So maybe it has to do with the A-10.
	I think it's called the Warthog.
	No, that's a possibility.
	That actually might be it.
	Which is, wow, look at this.
	We killed our own men because we got these clunkers up here that don't have any accuracy.
	And we're in a tight fight.
	We need accuracy.
	And the B-1 bomber can't provide it.
	But, you know, the Warthog would have.
	Yeah.
	And I actually got a couple of notes from some of our military sources saying this is crazy.
	This thing is a fantastic aircraft.
	And they're retiring the whole thing.
	And maybe that's because they have to put in the B-1, although I don't know.
	The B-1's not a new plane either.
	No.
	But still, again, that would be politicizing something horrible.
	Dead boys and girls.
	It makes me nuts.
	Thank you very much.
	Here we go.
	Fratricide.
	That's the word.
	Fratricide is not the same as friendly fire.
	Fratricide means you kill your brother.
	On purpose.
	I have it in news report being used as fratricide.
	It's the wrong word.
	Fratricide implies...
	Killing your brother.
	It implies purposeful.
	It doesn't imply an accident.
	Friendly fire just generally means, oh, I didn't mean to do it.
	I mean, it was either incompetence or whatever, but you didn't go out to shoot the guy.
	It's not like fragging a guy.
	Well, hold on a second.
	Fragging a guy.
	Words matter.
	CNN. Five American service members were killed in southern Afghanistan when a coalition jet called in to help ward off a Taliban attack, mistakenly bombed them.
	I'm looking for the word.
	It said fratricide.
	Hold on.
	Friendly fire from the air.
	Here we go.
	The service members unit came in contact with enemy forces.
	That's when the casualties occurred, a U.S. military official told CNN. There is the possibility that fratricide may have been involved.
	Well, then you know what that means?
	It was on purpose.
	They killed him on purpose just to get that warthog back in service.
	I mean, based on our thesis.
	So using fratricide in that sense means that they may have been telling the truth there.
	Wow.
	Let me see.
	Wall Street Journal has the same quote.
	Tragically, there's a possibility that fratricide may have been involved.
	That's effed up.
	Let's take a look at their definition.
	Let's get this straight by pulling up our web browsers and looking up fratricide.
	Holy moly.
	This is frightening when they say this stuff.
	Maybe they're just telling the absolute truth and people are going, oh, whatever.
	Fratricide from the Latin words frater, brother, and saida, killer.
	A killing, both from the center to kill, cut down the act of a person killing his or her own brother.
	Here it is.
	Here's a better one.
	Merriam-Webster.
	The crime of murdering your own brother or sister.
	Wow.
	So fratricide essentially means...
	It's not a mistake.
	It's murder.
	Murder is...
	Killing someone is different than murdering someone.
	Murder is the actual act of...
	The violent act of taking someone else's life on purpose.
	Yeah.
	And there's no alternative definition.
	Here's the full definition in Merriam-Webster.
	One that murders or kills his own brother or sister or an individual or a countryman having a relationship like that of a brother or sister.
	The act of fratricide is number two.
	Yeah, no.
	The crime of murdering your own brother or sister.
	Okay.
	Wow.
	Yeah, there you go.
	Another one of these fine analyses that we managed to do on this show that sometimes people appreciate.
	Sometimes people appreciate it.
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	I was going to say, I look forward to the analysis we'll get from our plethora of a panoply of military servicemen and women who will weigh in on this.
	I'm sure they will.
	And I'm wondering why somebody doesn't, you know, friendly fire is one thing, fratricide is another, it seems to me.
	And it's from an unnamed source at the department.
	So that means it could be made up.
	It could be propaganda.
	You could have put it in there for a reason.
	Just for a little...
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	A quick email, just a quickie here.
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	Yeah?
	Play it.
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	From Mark in Belgium.
	Hey Adam, I've listened to No Agenda since episode one.
	And yes, I've donated several times.
	So this always gets my attention, by the way.
	I've been very interested in hearing you talk about the slight form of Tourette's that you have.
	When you describe the symptoms, I recognize a lot of that in my 10-year-old son.
	My simple question to you is, how was Tourette's diagnosed with you, and what do you recommend as a follow-up or follow-through with our son?
	We already contacted the doctor who wants to redirect us to a psychiatrist.
	Okay.
	Yeah, exactly.
	I think it's important to read this one on the air.
	Okay.
	First of all, Tourette's, which comes in many forms, and if he's just got tics and stuff like that, it's not the yelling profanities.
	It can go away.
	And even if he had the yelling profanities, there's nothing a psychiatrist can do about it.
	No.
	Do not...
	I mean, I'm not a doctor, but I do not recommend going to a psychiatrist because the only thing that I believe they will do is...
	Drug him.
	Yes, drug him.
	And that is not the solution in my case.
	My advice is to be very open about it.
	Not to hide it.
	Don't ignore it.
	Talk to him about it.
	Try and make it as open as possible.
	Like if you had a limp.
	Don't pretend the person doesn't have a limp.
	And my experience is when it's unspoken, you try to hide it, and when you try to hide it, it becomes worse because, of course, you can't hide it.
	I was, you know, there was a special, and it was on PBS or Nova or something on Tourette's.
	I would like to track it down because I think it was very valuable to me.
	Mm-hmm.
	To watch it.
	And I think it was long, too.
	It was like two hours.
	And they talked about all these elements of Tourette's from the most mildest to the worst.
	And I thought it was extremely valuable to watch this film.
	And it allows me to spot people that have Tourette's and not think much about it, including that poor bastard that was thrown off the airplane, which I've talked about on the show before.
	And if you can get, I think if the family sat down, if you had Tourette's and the family sat down and watched this documentary, I think you'd come out of it just, everything would be...
	Is this the one where one kid had a very severe version that I'd never heard of before, and he would actually become paralyzed and have to lay down, but then he'd hit people in the face?
	Was that the one?
	No, I don't remember that.
	I would have remembered that.
	So a psychiatrist and psychologist, two different things, but if you can talk to the kid about what's going on, it'll make him feel comfortable.
	I really have no other way to say it than keep it out in the open.
	Don't hide it.
	And also, let them know that it's interesting.
	This is the thing that I learned.
	And several people told me in my late teens...
	Early 20s.
	And it was kind of like one of these unspoken things.
	And this person said to me, no, I see that you've got twitches and tics, but I think it makes you look interesting.
	And I always took that to heart because these were good-looking women.
	And believe it or not, You're interesting when you're not like everybody else.
	And this is the same for versions of whatever they call the autism spectrum, etc.
	Don't worry about it.
	Seriously, I still to this day have...
	It's gotten much better because I've become much calmer about it.
	But I was on television with Tourette's.
	And it was crazy.
	I was able to control it.
	But man, it took so much out of me, and once I kind of let it go, I mean, you know, when Mick Jagger says to you, man, you got a weird tick, but it's kind of funny, with an English accent, that's when you're living.
	Yeah, Mick Jagger thinks I'm interesting.
	Name dropper.
	Yeah.
	All right.
	So, you know, don't sweat it, but be very careful and be very wary of medication.
	The only thing, you know, it helped me in some ways, you know, when he's older, if he wants to, you know, smoke some weed to relax, but I don't think it's necessary.
	I think there's no drugging or anesthetizing is necessary.
	Just keep it open.
	Keep talking about it.
	And this age, it very often just goes away.
	Let me do the jobs karma, John, before we forget.
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	Yowza, yowza.
	I want to bring people at least up to speed on what's going on in Iraq.
	There is a...
	Nobody's talking about this except they did bring it up on PBS and they had a very interesting person come on and describe what's going to go on.
	She is a woman called Kimberly Kagan and she heads something called the War Institute.
	Don't tell me she's not related to Robert and Frederick.
	Not that I know of.
	I couldn't find a relationship.
	Okay.
	But...
	Let's play, there's two clips I have.
	One of them is the Sunni move in Iraq, and I want to play that first and then follow up with Kimberly Kagan, who I, there was a lot of material that they played, but as far as I'm concerned, Kagan's probably got the right take on this, and this is something we have to expect to happen.
	...either in Mosul or any other city...
	But Maliki's Shiite-led government has largely failed in reconciling with Iraq's Sunni population.
	The Islamic State has taken advantage of the breach.
	The Sunni extremist group previously took over Fallujah and parts of Ramadi in western and central Iraq.
	It's also a principal combatant in Syria's civil war, but has fought against other rebel groups as fiercely as many of its units have fought against the army of President Assad.
	The group's ambitions there have led to a rupture with al-Qaeda's core organization, which sides with the Syrian rebellion.
	The attack on Mosul now threatens to draw nearby Kurdish forces into the fighting as well.
	Emergency, emergency, Dr.
	Dvorak.
	She is directly related.
	Her brother is Robert Kagan.
	Okay, there we go.
	Victoria Newland's husband, and of course, Frederick Kagan is, so she's a neocon.
	And she, being a neocon, would have a perspective on this because they're trying for this to happen, or they want this stuff to happen.
	This situation, what they call the ISIS group, or ISIL. Or ISIS. There's actually two.
	The last word is, one of them starts with an S, one of them starts with an L, and you get to pick either one.
	And they like to say ISIS, we like to say ISIL. And I think there's some symbolism to that, whatever.
	She's also a Yalie.
	Yeah, no, she is a hotshot.
	Oh, crap.
	No, she's married to Frederick Kagan.
	Fuck me.
	Okay.
	Oh, my God.
	So she's in the thick of it.
	Yeah, so to speak.
	And so she's on here.
	She's a little weird.
	She's kind of like...
	She's a little...
	She's like a giddy character.
	She's very strange.
	But she outlines what I think is going on.
	Like I said, it's not being discussed.
	There is an emirate actually forming.
	This ISIS group is not a bunch of slouches.
	They've actually formed an army.
	It's not a terrorist operation.
	They took parts of Syria.
	And they're going to take parts of Iraq as Sunnis.
	And I think what she describes here is exactly what's programmed and what's going to happen.
	And before I listen to this, the ISIL, this just came in this morning, have abducted the Turkish staff in Mosul.
	So this is an anti-Turkey outfit.
	Yeah.
	And that would make sense, because they're Sunnis, you said?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	So, Kimberly Kagan, let me start with you.
	We know these insurgents have been creating havoc for some time, launching attacks.
	How important is this particular attack taking over the city of Mosul?
	This attack that the Islamic State of Iraq and Sham, or the Levant, has launched on Mosul is incredibly important because it is the beginning of a campaign and a push beyond Mosul into the areas toward Baghdad that the Islamic State of Iraq wants to govern.
	It seeks to establish an emirate or a state and govern terrain inside of Iraq as well as governing the terrain inside of Syria in Raqqa where it has announced the beginning of its emirate.
	I believe Mosul will be its new capital.
	Mosul where they just kidnapped the Turkish embassy staff.
	Right.
	So something is up.
	Okay, so now she is from the FPIs, the Foreign Policy Institute, which is what the Kagans are in now.
	That's their new...
	Well, she is actually from something...
	At the beginning of her thing, they announced that she is actually the head of this other operation.
	She's the top dog at this research center.
	Let me take a look.
	Current position.
	Aid Battlefield Circulation.
	CENTCOM. Wow.
	She was at CENTCOM? Yeah, she's a heavy-duty little girl.
	Yeah.
	Doesn't...
	Served in Kabul.
	She was within the Crystals.
	The Institute for the Study of War.
	Look up the Institute for the Study of War.
	That's what she runs.
	Okay.
	She's part of the other things, of course.
	These guys are not...
	Holy crap.
	Okay, so let's look at this.
	This is very interesting, John.
	I'm glad...
	This is good.
	So we have...
	So what happened is that this ISIL, or whatever they call it, this is where the fighting from Syria moved over to eastern part, which is really western Iraq, and this is where this group has been hanging out and they're moving up.
	They're collaborating with the Kurds, and they're fighting with the Turks.
	I mean, what does this look like to you?
	Especially when these people are interested in it.
	I think it's the beginning of the end for the country known as Iraq, and it's going to be partitioned into a series of smaller states called Emirates.
	Right.
	Very similar to the United Arab Emirates, which is a series of states with kind of not as an important oversight governing body.
	Right.
	Because, you know, the Dubai people do not necessarily...
	Have anyone tell them what to do.
	And I think this is the first, whose idea this is, I'm not sure.
	Obviously, the Kagans would be involved, or the Neocons.
	The idea is to create this emirate and then stabilize it.
	Show that this can be done, and it's going to trigger the same thing in Kurdistan area will form, and that's why you have to have Turkey on your side, because the Turks do not want that.
	No.
	Because Kurds want part of Turkey, too.
	And so you're going to see a lot of crap going on, and this is just the beginning of it.
	It's not being well covered by any means, but it's going to...
	I mean, it's the only way it's going to stabilize Iraq.
	Eventually it should, because these little operations will be self-governing.
	I'm putting her wiki page into the show notes.
	And the thing about the element, they mentioned some city in Syria.
	Mosul.
	No, Mosul's in Iraq, isn't it?
	Oh, I'm sorry.
	What did she mention?
	At the end, there's a little city called Rock or something, like some crazy little town.
	And I wanted, we may have to play that again or something, because I wanted to know if that had anything to do with any pipelines.
	Hold on a sec.
	It was in the second clip?
	Yeah, it was in the second clip.
	Let's listen to it again.
	So, Kubelik Hagan, let me start with you.
	We've been for some time launching attacks.
	How important is this particular attack taking over the city of Mosul?
	This attack that the Islamic State of Iraq and Shamm, or the Levant, has launched on Mosul is incredibly important because it is the beginning of a campaign and a push beyond Mosul into the areas toward Baghdad that the Islamic State of Iraq wants to govern.
	It seeks to establish an emirate or a state and govern terrain inside of Iraq, as well as governing the terrain inside of Syria in Raqqa.
	Raqqa?
	Raqqa.
	Yeah, this has got to be, of course.
	Hold on.
	Raqqa?
	We think it is R-A-K-A? I don't know.
	Let's take a look.
	Is it Syria or is it...
	Syria.
	Syria.
	Yeah.
	This is going to be the Islamic...
	Yeah.
	R-O-C-C-A. Oh, I have R-A-Q-Q-A-H, which I think is probably...
	Well, it could be either way.
	Yeah, can you spell it?
	Okay, so let's do...
	Add the word pipeline.
	That's how I do it.
	That's how I do it, people.
	Yeah, there you go.
	It's the Kirkuk-Banias pipeline, crude oil pipeline from the Kirkuk oil field in Iraq to the Syrian port.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, I'd say that's pretty important.
	So the question is, yeah, this is part of the whole Pipeline-Estan war, man.
	This is it.
	This is what Qatar does not want.
	This is exactly the opposite.
	This is getting oil into the Mediterranean when really we want it to go through Turkey from Qatar or Qatar or however you want to pronounce it.
	Yeah, that's all that it's about.
	One of the things that they kind of mentioned...
	You think these guys give a crap about religion?
	Screw that!
	Oil.
	One of the things she mentioned was, well, if you're going to start an emirate, you want to have...
	Emirates are known for having a lot of oil.
	Yep.
	So if you're going to start one, you grab these pipelines and you just start making money.
	But one of the things she mentioned was that this group, ISIS or ISIL, either one.
	ISIS is easier to say than ISIL.
	One of the things that she mentioned was that they were fighting against al-Qaeda.
	They were also one of the insurgent groups or one of the groups in Syria fighting, but they were fighting against, when they ran into other rebels, they would take them on as though they were the government.
	So they were not cooperating with whatever scheme was afoot that was set up by Qatar again, and Turkey, and whoever else was supplying arms.
	They were a separate operation, and they were not putting up with any of it.
	And this is going to be a big deal.
	I don't see this falling apart.
	It doesn't...
	They've got 15,000 soldiers already.
	I'll bet 10 bucks the Russians will be helping them.
	Oh, of course.
	And...
	So this will be something that's going to blow up probably in a month or two when we finally get a clue.
	Yeah, so if you look at Araka, if you look at the pipeline, you see the pipeline goes from Araka or Raqqa west without even looking at the map.
	Just guess which town it hits next.
	I don't know.
	Hamas?
	Aleppo.
	Aleppo.
	Aleppo, right.
	Of course.
	Of course.
	Now, these are all...
	Yeah.
	This is all about...
	Well, there's an interesting article.
	This is from Al Jazeera.
	When was this published?
	So this thing begins in Kirkuk, which will be in their territory, too, because they were moving, she said, from Mosul, which is up north.
	Near the Kurdish area.
	Or in the Kurdish area.
	Mosul down to Kirkuk is halfway to Baghdad.
	And she mentioned that they were pushing forces toward Baghdad, but they probably weren't going to take over Baghdad.
	Okay, so this has everything to do...
	This is...
	Thank you for finding this.
	This is truly what it's about.
	So Turkey...
	Russia is involved in this.
	This is the $10 billion deal that was struck between Iran, Iraq, and Syria for the pipeline from east to west to get from the South Parsfields, Kirkuk, into the port.
	And then, of course, the market is Europe through the Mediterranean, either ship or whatever.
	So, of course, we start to rebelize Syria, but that's kind of failed.
	This is where I think it's interesting to see that, okay, now they're shoring up the next part of the pipeline.
	That's the way I see it.
	And you've got to wonder who is playing where, because this is really an alternative for not just Iran, but for Russia.
	Who got clinched off in Ukraine.
	Right.
	So, Russia could be more involved in this than we know.
	They could be behind it for all we know.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Of course, they're poor.
	Although, I would think that Kagan...
	With her connections, she would have said something if that was the case.
	I mean, it doesn't mean that they're not sympathizers in some way, shape, or form.
	They have something to do with it.
	But it seems to me she would have said something.
	But the question is, whose side is she on?
	I'm not so sure that the Kagans and the Neocons are on America's side.
	I don't think they give a crap.
	Yeah, you might be right.
	She would then just ignore that or ignore putting that forward.
	But how beautiful is it?
	You've got one Kagan in and covering the pipeline from the Iran-Iraq-Syria pipeline.
	You've got another Kagan, I'm sorry, Noodleman, blowing up the pipeline in Ukraine.
	The family is doing some business here.
	How crazy is that?
	Arrest these people!
	They must be stopped!
	Yeah, they should be.
	These people are horrible.
	Look at the Kagan family.
	The brothers, the spouses must be stopped.
	At all costs.
	They're on a roll.
	The Kagans.
	We need a jingle for the Kagans.
	The Koch brothers are nothing compared to these people.
	Well, the Koch brothers are just money bags.
	That's all.
	They're just, you know, financiers.
	They don't have anything to do with anything.
	They don't even keep track of what's going on or they'd be listening to our show.
	Yeah.
	I'm also putting this in the show notes.
	Well, those guys are old school.
	One day someone will wake up and be like, hey, wait a minute.
	People aren't listening to NPR anymore.
	Listen to all these other things.
	Very cool.
	Yeah, Institute for War.
	I'm looking at that.
	And what does she have on it?
	It's not the Institute for War.
	Although it should be named that.
	I'm sorry.
	It's funny.
	It's the Institute for the Study of War.
	But yeah, you might as well just call it that.
	And what does she have right up front?
	Yeah, ISIS. There you go.
	The ISIS battle plan.
	Okay, so it sounds like she's on the ISIS side.
	Like she's in that camp.
	Well, the way she sounds when you hear her is just very matter-of-fact about Mosul being the new capital of this emirate.
	And I also think it's interesting that they call it an emirate rather than a caliphate or a splinter.
	What would you call it when you take off a chunk of the country?
	It's called some partitioning or any of these other terms.
	I never heard anyone say this...
	Use the emirate word for this sort of thing, and I think it is genius.
	Dr.
	Kimberly, I'm reading from her website.
	This is, by the way, ladies and gentlemen, this is, I think, the only program in the world that can do this.
	Just throw everything off, and let's do some analysis right here.
	You're witnessing it as we go.
	Dr.
	Kimberly Kagan founded ISW, the Institute for War, as I call it, in May 2007 as U.S. forces undertook a daring new counterinsurgency strategy to reverse the grim situation on the ground in Iraq.
	Frustrated with the prevailing lack of accurate information documenting developments on the ground in Iraq and the detrimental effect of biased reporting on policy makers, Dr.
	Kagan established ISW to provide real-time, independent and open-source analysis of ongoing military operations and insurgent attacks in Iraq.
	General Jack Keane, U.S. Army retired, the chairman of ISW's board, also played a central role in developing the intellectual foundation for this change of strategy in Iraq and supported the formation of the Institute in 2007.
	So what does this tell you?
	Well, it tells you that this...
	Well, this is very much like one of those Rubicon operations, by the way.
	But they were essentially developing policy to continue the rebelization process.
	I mean, what are you reading into it?
	Well, this is what...
	So it can only be a couple of things.
	First, maybe she's on a side.
	Maybe she's on the Russian side for all I know.
	But it doesn't seem that way if you keep it in the family, where we want to rebelize and create more war.
	We've got...
	I would think that she wants to stop this pipeline.
	And that therefore she's reporting on it, trying to get some traction and get some action going.
	You know, of course, we're now, I guess, officially out of Iraq.
	Oh, that's an interesting theory.
	You know, if she wants to get this piece rubble-ized.
	Failed in Syria.
	You know, Syria, well, it's rubble-ized, but it's not like...
	Yeah, go ahead.
	Well, it's possible that these guys are, you know, we have to do a little more research into this ISIS group, and I think once we do that, it'll come to us.
	It's possible that they want to get these guys to take, if these guys take over part of Syria, because I don't think Assad wants to give up a piece of his country, and I don't think the Turks want to see the Kurds get involved in creating their little country themselves, which they'll take a chunk out of Turkey.
	They don't like this idea.
	No.
	So there's something about taking a chunk out of Syria that's the giveaway that kind of says this is not something the Russians would agree to.
	Because the Russians are all in on Syria and they'd have to be all in on not letting Syria give away a chunk of its own country.
	So it could be an attempt to stop that pipeline.
	Yeah.
	But then they're not in with Turkey, though, and Turkey's the one that would be going up their way.
	No, no, no.
	Turkey, the idea, the dispute is Turkey is supposed to get the oil from Qatar.
	That's the pipeline that goes from Qatar in the south through Syria up to Turkey.
	That's the real dispute of Syria.
	To not have the Russian-Iranian pipeline running, only to have the U.S. coalition, I guess, Qatari pipeline going up.
	And that should be replacing Gazprom coming through Ukraine into Turkey.
	So Turkey is screwed no matter what, believe me.
	Okay, here we go.
	They got a problem.
	Here's a headline.
	They got $1.7 million in income, this group of Ms.
	Kimberly Kagan.
	Go ahead, you talk while I'm looking at the 990.
	I'm just going to say, here's a report.
	Qatar and Saudi Arabia reportedly funding and sponsoring ISIS. There you go.
	So that is a thwarting of the Iran-Iraq-Syria pipeline.
	Stopping it, right there.
	Stopping it.
	Screw Aleppo, let's just cut it off earlier in the chunk.
	In the process.
	Fallujah, Mosul, now Tikrit is under control of ISIS.
	It's the most serious threat that Prime Minister Maliki, Maliki, Maliki, the Iraqi guy, has faced since the worst days of the Iraq war.
	The nightmare scenario for the U.S. troop pullout that would leave the government vulnerable to takeover by extremists now appears to be coming true.
	Wow.
	Iraq has turned to the U.S. for more aid, but the 20 billion Washington has already poured into training and equipping the security forces doesn't seem to have accomplished much.
	You know what the fallacy of all of this is?
	That if someone explained to the people of the world that fossil fuels such as oil and gas are the entire reason for destruction, despair, death, destruction, war, rebelization...
	People would be on wind power and solar power in a heartbeat.
	Instead of this bullcrap climate change.
	They're using climate change to sway them.
	How sad is that?
	It's a petroleum economy.
	We're so deep into it.
	I don't think it's non-trivial to get out.
	I think that's the reason.
	Because it's so...
	I mean, we're so deep.
	But the joke of it is, the same people who are saying, oh, climate change, we've got to get off...
	They're not true.
	They're not truthful.
	They're dishonest.
	It's like, hey, you go over here, you play with your little solar cell, whatever.
	Meanwhile, we know what you really need.
	You can't live without our fossil fuels, and we're going to go kill a whole bunch of brown people who live in sandy regions to make sure it's our oil and not Putin's oil.
	Yeah, Putin's making too much money.
	Yeah!
	And then they took over Gasprom.
	We can't have that.
	It's just...
	Oh, man.
	But, you know, so the people who heard this show, congratulations.
	You are now enlightened on what's really going on.
	That was great, John.
	I can't believe I missed a Kagan.
	I thought I'd gotten them all.
	Who knows?
	There may be more.
	Let me see.
	Is there more Kagans?
	No, there's probably a bunch.
	If you tracked them all down, we'd find all kinds of good stories.
	They're all Yalies, though.
	That's for sure.
	Yeah.
	That's where Kerry comes from and where Bush comes from.
	With their secret societies.
	There's also that war.
	You know, Yale versus the Harvards and the...
	There's a lot of weird stuff in the world.
	Anyway, the good news is we break it down for you.
	You feel much better.
	I just have one more topic that I've got to get into.
	I want to say at the end of the show, can you play the extended stutter clip just one more time?
	I'd be more than happy to.
	In fact, I'm going to line it up right now.
	You can play it at the end.
	Yeah, no, I will.
	Of course.
	Common Core.
	Very interesting what's happening.
	I don't know if it's going to make a dent or not, but a number of people in the media are starting to catch on to the scam that is Common Core.
	Actually, a very good piece from Pando Daily, who revealed that the Gates Foundation financed specifically PBS educational programming, which promoted the interests of Microsoft in conjunction with Common Core, which is pretty big.
	Um...
	Pearson, it is now being recognized and analyzed and written about.
	Pearson, of course, is the educational publisher of the world.
	British company, what do they have, like 80% of all educational publications, John?
	They bought every company they could, and now they kind of are essentially a monopoly.
	So the players are Pearson, and if you've listened to any reports about it, you might have caught something on NPR, probably, that all the material has to be the new material for Common Core.
	Everyone has to get new textbooks, and of course they're not really books anymore.
	They fit on your tablet.
	Which is obviously meant to be manufactured by Dell, as far as I can tell, and run on Microsoft platform.
	And this is being written about as well.
	Oklahoma has withdrawn from the Common Core standards.
	South Carolina has withdrawn from the Common Core standards.
	There's a very good rundown in the show notes under Common Core about Gene Wilhoyt, who set this up with Bill Gates, and who kind of immediately retired.
	He's actually now consulting at the University of Kentucky College of Education.
	But he and Bill Gates set all of this up, and it was actually Gene Wilhote who pitched this to Gates.
	There's a great backstory about that.
	He said, man, you've got to do this education thing.
	Now, the Washington Post...
	By the way, just to interrupt, I have seen Gates confronted about this in various kind of moments where he's being interviewed, and he is completely baffled by it, that there's a controversy.
	I have three clips from the Washington Post.
	They did a very good expose, I think, about the Common Core and the Gates Foundation's involvement.
	It's a good read.
	From that comes another article.
	It says, time for Congress to investigate the Bill Gates coup.
	So there's a little bit of noise, and I agree with you.
	As I said before, Bill Gates, he believes all this.
	I think he really believes he's doing good, that he really believes this is the way to go.
	But it is so corrupt.
	Yeah, you're right.
	I think he's baffled.
	So here is...
	Unfortunately, the Washington Post only did the answers and they put the questions kind of on a lower third, which is weird, or in mid-screen.
	Question one for Bill Gates, does he have too much influence now over the K-12, over the educational system because of his involvement and his funding, direct funding of Common Core?
	Right.
	We fund people to look into things.
	We don't fund people to say, okay, we'll pay you this if you say you like the Common Core.
	We've never done anything like that.
	We do evaluations.
	Let me just stop.
	If those things go well, which some do, some do not, then we create more options.
	But, you know, our voice is not there when the final choice of what to scale up is made.
	No, your money is.
	That's a governor, a superintendent, a school board who decides all those things.
	I don't know if he doesn't read or if he doesn't look at where his money goes.
	So he says in the beginning here, we don't...
	We fund people to look into things.
	We don't fund people to say, okay, we'll pay you this if you say you like the Common Core.
	We've never done anything like that.
	Oh, except for, let me see, the Common Core Communications Collaborative, which you pumped $6 million into.
	To communicate the common core.
	Yes, of course you fund people to promote it.
	That's a lie.
	Lie number one.
	Number two.
	What, you didn't like that?
	Mm-hmm.
	That's a...
	Yes.
	This is kind of the main question.
	Is he doing this for his own financial gain?
	Does he still own a little bit of that Microsoft company?
	I've heard that, yeah.
	He might own a little bit of that, or maybe own some stock in some other things that might benefit.
	We don't really know.
	I mean, yeah, he owns stock in the Corrections Corporation of America.
	He's willing to bet on anything.
	I hope I can make this clear.
	I believe in the Common Core because of its substance and what it will do to improve education.
	And that's the only reason I believe in the Common Core.
	And I have no, you know, this is giving money away.
	Did you hear him correct himself?
	He wanted to say, I have no financial, no gain, or whatever he was going to say.
	And he steers away from the direct lie of, I'm not going to benefit from this.
	I have no...
	The only reason, I believe in the Common Core.
	And I have no, you know, this is giving money away.
	I wonder what he was going to say, John.
	What do you think he was going to say?
	Yeah, he's going to say he's going to lie.
	It's got nothing to do with me.
	I'm not going to make any money from this deal.
	This is giving money away.
	Giving money away.
	He doesn't give money away, by the way.
	Oh?
	What does he do?
	He gives money with strings attached.
	You gotta do something.
	He's not just giving money away.
	Hey, what do you hear?
	Here, take a few bills.
	He doesn't do that.
	He's not giving money away.
	I think his total bill so far is like $250 million in the Common Core.
	That's a lot.
	That's a lot of Benjamins, boy.
	Money away.
	This is philanthropy.
	This is trying to make sure students have the kind of opportunity I had.
	Wasn't he a dropout?
	Yeah, he dropped out of Harvard.
	Yeah, great opportunity.
	What is that supposed to mean?
	Hold on, 12 more seconds.
	There is nothing, and it's so almost outrageous to say otherwise in my view.
	Yeah, in your view of the world, Bill, not a good answer.
	Not well done.
	But he is...
	You're right.
	He's baffled.
	What?
	People think I'm bad?
	What?
	Well, then...
	I'm giving...
	That's why he used the phrase, I'm giving money away.
	Yeah.
	Shut up.
	I'm giving money away.
	I'm giving money away.
	How is that bad?
	Yeah.
	Well, why don't you just throw it here?
	Just fly over and throw it down on Travis Heights.
	I'd be very happy.
	Yeah, no, he sees it.
	That's what he sees.
	He actually sees himself as this great benefactor who could do no wrong, of course.
	And he's giving money away.
	How can he be a bad person?
	He's just giving it away.
	There's no...
	He's just throwing it away.
	Why am I a bad person for doing that?
	It's philanthropy.
	He says that, too.
	He mentions philanthropy.
	Yeah.
	But then again, it's philanthropy for Common Core.
	It's not straight philanthropy where you give the money and let somebody else spend it any way they want.
	You're directing this money.
	This is direct funding.
	Have you seen the Teaching Channel?
	No.
	Which is another one of the Bill Gates-funded promotional arms of Common Core.
	Teachingchannel.org.
	This also runs on local television stations, but of course I think the web is more interesting.
	It's just filled with videos about the Common Core and about how it's supposed to work and it's for teachers.
	Somebody sent us a video of how to multiply 11 times 23.
	That was like, you can do that in your head.
	11 times anything.
	If you can't make that multiplication in your head, then you're an idiot.
	But there was like this convoluted boxes and boxes, and you're supposed to do this, and you subtract 1 from 11, so it's 10, and then you do this.
	I don't know if I have that.
	I don't think I received that, but I do have...
	Let me see.
	What is this?
	Oh, I'd have to do it on the other computer.
	Fraction manipulatives.
	What the hell is that?
	I don't know.
	I should prepare that better.
	I'll look into some of these crazy teaching channel videos.
	Yeah, find some of the real whack job ones and we'll just run those.
	A lot of money is going into that.
	A lot.
	I'm glad to see some people waking up to this.
	Well, and Washington Post is nice.
	And here's the final one, because of course, we all want to know, is like, well, are your own kids in Common Core?
	That's the question.
	It's a good question, is it not?
	I'd say it's the top question.
	Yes.
	I expect my kids to know a superset of the Common Core standards.
	Okay, so the answer is actually no.
	The school that his kids go to are private schools that do not adhere to Common Core standards.
	I have the links in the show notes.
	The answer is no.
	No.
	But he says, yes, I expect them to have a superset of the common...
	What the hell is that?
	A superset.
	Can my kids get the superset, Bill, or is that only for your kids?
	What is that about?
	Yes, I expect my kids to know a superset of the common core standards that every single grade involved.
	I expect them to have the reading skills...
	Above what the reading and writing skills are in the Common Core standards.
	So, absolutely.
	I don't see, you know, who would not want that?
	What?
	To be better than Common Core?
	Yeah.
	He just said his kids will be better than Common Core.
	Superset.
	Yeah, well, here we go.
	He's a menace.
	He's a menace to education.
	He needs to be stopped.
	He's a menace to a lot of things.
	Did you read that Washington Post article?
	Can you?
	No.
	Oh, okay.
	I will.
	Yeah, it's really quite excellent.
	I can't imagine the kind of little dinner tete-a-tete these people have, where they feel that they're above everyone else.
	I have some thoughts on this, by the way, and I'll talk about it on the next show.
	Well, can you give us a little...
	Where I believe...
	Lift it up a little bit?
	Yeah, I can play a clip, and this will be the teaser.
	And this is like, think about, I was thinking about video games, and oh, you know, people think they're teaching kids violence.
	I think video games are dangerous now.
	I've come to this conclusion.
	And I think so, not because of the violence or even the gameplay, but of the propaganda that is pushed to the public via the games.
	Major, major moments of propaganda.
	And I think that we're going to elect a female president.
	I think a lot of it will have to do with the princess's powers that Nintendo has in their new games.
	I watched the Nintendo press conference in E3. Wait, wait, wait.
	You mean kids are being indoctrinated to have a...
	Female president through Nintendo and the princess's powers?
	I'm just saying this is a world you absorb yourself into and you will play this princess clip.
	Princess Powers Nintendo Archive.
	Okie dokie.
	Wait, you want to fight too, Lady Palatina?
	I'm no stranger to fighting.
	Have you forgotten that time we fought each other?
	Well, yeah, sure.
	But that was when the Chaos Gen had you under mind control.
	Well, anything an angel can do, a goddess can do better.
	Perhaps you'd like to see some of the powers I want to use to protect you.
	Heavenly Light.
	Explosive Flames.
	Warp.
	Rocket Jump.
	Reflect.
	Auto-Reticle. Jump-Glide. Culture.
	Super Speed.
	Agile Mism.
	Celestial Fireworks. Lightweight. Black Hole.
	Mega Laser.
	You don't have to prove anything to me, Lady Palatina.
	Looks like angels only talk to you.
	Many worthy foes have gathered here.
	And I won't hold back on anyone.
	Wow.
	This is all Japanese propaganda.
	Now, the Japanese and their gameplay is very interesting.
	I think it has sociological effects on the American public.
	I think the vision we have right now with the Democrats and the Republicans is part of this.
	And it's getting worse the way they're showing that there's no agreements on anything.
	You listen to MSNBC and these guys go on and everything's the Republicans' fault.
	Even when you had Amy Goodman talking about the Bergdahl thing, she said the Republicans.
	She said, oh, the Republicans objected.
	There's a lot of people that didn't like this Bergdahl deal.
	They were Republicans and Democrats.
	But you start looking at some of the stuff that they propagandize you with.
	For example, this new game coming out.
	And I wrote this down from the subtitles of the game.
	It hasn't been released for the American public yet.
	Xenoblade Chronicles.
	It's called the duty of growth is the main term they keep using.
	This is a little dialogue that went on.
	Oh, a vessel with which...
	To, you know, with which to meet our overlord has come to me.
	So we have this structure that is being foisted upon us, this overlord, princess, princes, and all the rest of it is bull crap.
	By the way, the princess throws a black hole, which is kind of frightening.
	Yes, that would be Hillary.
	We lost the earth and we've treated, I'm sorry, and we've traveled so far to reach this planet.
	We'll wipe you out.
	That is the duty of growth.
	Wow.
	So that was a sentence that got my attention.
	We'll wipe you out.
	That is the duty of growth.
	We can never coexist with the likes of you.
	We will purge this cancer.
	That is the destiny of growth.
	I mean, this sort of thing, being pumped into all the children of the world, is a mindset that I think is dangerous.
	And what you're saying is that this can be triggered.
	Right.
	I think that this has been going on for a while, and we've always been looking at the wrong thing.
	It's a don't look over here moment.
	We look at the violence in these games, and we say, oh my God, there's all this violence.
	That's what's accounting for the shootings and all the rest of it.
	But we don't look at the messaging, and there is nothing but propagandistic royalty messaging, you versus us messaging.
	You can't agree with, you know, you have to be lockstep on one side or the other.
	You're an enemy or you're...
	You're either our friend or our enemy.
	And you're seeing this kind of magnified in politics and everything else.
	And I believe it stems from this Japanese ideology, which is being pumped through these games right into people's brains, and you're not noticing it because the violent part is helping you bring this in internally.
	I'm telling you, I'm convinced this is a huge problem.
	Well, I'm all in on that.
	The only thing is, having been to Japan recently, I'm not seeing the result of that.
	In Japan.
	Yeah.
	Because their culture and their language eats this stuff up.
	It's not even a problem.
	But once it leaves that closed society and goes into foreign areas that have a different structure, mainly because the language is so different, it doesn't work and it starts to corrupt us.
	I think we're being corrupted by Japanese games.
	I like that thesis.
	I'm working on it.
	I'll have more to say.
	Listen to this.
	I just activated the children. - Have you ever seen that movie?
	No.
	Halloween 3?
	No.
	Oh yeah, that's so cool.
	The kids, they see this commercial for Silver Shamrock and they get activated and they go nutso and kill everybody.
	Wow, I hope somebody got that one.
	I'm like the only guy who's like, yeah, that was funny.
	That was really good.
	Alright, perfect.
	I don't know if they got some of my weird material in the past.
	Well, I like the thesis, and it would make sense, although I'm not quite sure how...
	Well, so Grand Theft Auto, that's not a Japanese game.
	That's an American game, yeah?
	Yeah, but there's no propaganda.
	None of this propaganda is in Grand Theft Auto.
	It's just for violence.
	Well, the only thing that's in Grand Theft Auto is there's a lot of...
	Sometimes little no agenda-ish, but I would say more...
	Right, there's a lot of anti-government.
	Those are all American themes.
	Those are American themes that are in Grand Theft Auto, and I think that's a healthy game for that reason.
	Yeah, but...
	These theses on these games are alien to the American way of thinking.
	Interesting.
	And it's a slave mentality.
	Yeah, it's a total slave mentality.
	Surf.
	Surfdom.
	Okay, so, if your kid is ticking about, be open about it and talk.
	And don't give any Japanese games to him.
	Screw that!
	That's just not okay!
	We can't have that!
	And definitely, do not do the Anderson Pooper experiment with voices in your head.
	Audible is dangerous.
	People talking to you may want to do something horrible.
	However, the voice in your head from the No Agenda show is good.
	You're good.
	You're awesome.
	You can do it.
	You can live through the bullcrap.
	Ignore your television.
	Don't take your meds.
	And tell your children to go outside and eat some dirt.
	Alright, Jean-Claude, I am off to HamCom.
	And I shall report Sunday.
	I'll be back Saturday night.
	So Sunday I shall report from HamCom.
	If you've seen any gear with my name on it, pick it up.
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