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	Dad, do I have to?
	Oh, Dad, do I have to?
	Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak.
	It's Sunday, June 8, 2014.
	Time for your Gitmo Nation media assassination episode 624.
	This is no agenda.
	Calling CQ to actual ships at sea and coming to you from FEMA Region 6 here in the capital of the drone star state in the morning, everybody.
	I'm Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley where there is no ship at sea around these parts, I'm John C. Dvorak.
	Yeah, actually, there are ships around your parts at sea.
	This is Warship Weekend.
	No.
	Yes, Warship Weekend, boy!
	Hold on a second.
	Let me look out the window.
	There are a couple there.
	I know there are.
	I'm looking at the bay.
	There's nothing out here.
	This is the weekend when amateur radio professionals, which is, of course, a contradiction in terms, Totally.
	Call CQ and of course...
	Is it illegal to be a professional?
	If you're an amateur.
	Yeah.
	So all of the warships have tuned their radios to the amateur radio frequencies and everyone's trying to get in contact with them.
	I spoke to the USS Orlik.
	The Orlik?
	Yes.
	The Orlik?
	Orlik.
	I didn't know it existed, but I spoke with it.
	Well, what kind of a ship is it?
	It's a...
	Well, you can Google it.
	It's a pretty big one.
	It's a big, big old, big old ship.
	I think it's Orlik.org, actually.
	Yeah.
	O-R-L-E-C-K. It's a...
	It's like a...
	Naval, it's a museum, obviously.
	A destroyer.
	World War II era destroyer.
	Wow, it's a clunker.
	These are all clunkers.
	Yeah.
	I was trying to get the submarine.
	It was a gearing class destroyer.
	Jeez, I can't even say anything today.
	I'm still waking up.
	It was a gearing class destroyer in service with the United States Navy from 1945 to 1982.
	And in 1982, she was sold to Turkey.
	Oh, I didn't know that.
	It's a Turkish ship you're talking to.
	Yeah, I think that may be subversive.
	Yeah, I didn't know that.
	So this clunker from 1982, you know, taken out of commission in 82, and it's a funky looking thing.
	It is.
	It's Turkish.
	It's a Turkish navy.
	But does it fly under Turkish flag?
	Well, it was sold to Turkey.
	Maybe not.
	Do they know they own it?
	Do they know that it's old?
	Do they know that it's a clunker?
	Hey, Erdogan!
	Love that new ship!
	It was transferred to the Southeast Texas War Memorial and Heritage Foundation at Orange, Texas, where she was birthed as a museum ship.
	Mm-hmm.
	It's been moved to Lake Charles, or it's going to be moved to Lake Charles, Louisiana.
	I think it was in Louisiana.
	I think it was in Lake Charles.
	That's where they moved it.
	I'm not getting this Turkish connection.
	Me neither.
	I didn't know about that.
	After her final decommissioning, the Turkish government transferred it to the south.
	Maybe it's just a spy ship.
	I don't know what it's like.
	Anyway, so there's hams on board of all of these ships, even like the old Marconi steamship and, you know, decommissioned submarines.
	And if you do a CUSO with 15 of them, you get a badge.
	Woo!
	I got two.
	You got two badges?
	No, no, I didn't get two badges.
	I need 13 more.
	It's never going to happen.
	I'm prepping all weekend.
	If you sat the rest of the day after the show.
	It's impossible.
	No, no, no.
	You see, you have what are called pileups.
	So the guy will be there like, hey, this is the USS Orlec, and I think his call was WW2LST or something like that.
	And then you say, yeah, QRZ. So he's listening.
	And then it's like...
	8 million guys all at the same time with big kilowatt amplifiers and beam antenna.
	Yeah.
	You can't compete with that.
	No.
	I'm a QR peer.
	I like the low power stuff.
	It's your fault, Dvorak.
	You got me started on this.
	I got too many people started on it.
	We've got a lot of young people that are finally getting involved.
	But yeah, you're right.
	There's these guys out there that have really nothing else to do and they just load up with this high-powered gear.
	What do they call them?
	They call them big guns.
	That's what they call them.
	The big guns.
	Which basically means you had $5,000 to drop on crap.
	Including a tower in your yard.
	Big antenna.
	Amps and antennas.
	But I like just my little wire, you know.
	It's cool.
	That is so quaint.
	Yeah, I talked to Finland the other day and to France.
	Well, that stinks you can't get a badge because of these guys.
	Well, it kind of takes away, you know, it's kind of the joy.
	It's like, hey, man, how you doing?
	What's that sub like?
	But you got no time for that.
	And be like, all right, I got to move on.
	I got 15 other guys calling.
	Who cares?
	I want to talk for a second.
	Ah, stinks.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Contesting.
	Anyway, so I could only do, like, half an hour yesterday that I spent on it, and a little bit, little bit late last night, and I was like, I got no time for this.
	There's stuff going on in the world.
	I got stuff to look at.
	Yeah, like, one of my favorite stories is the Secret Service wants software that detects social media sarcasm.
	Yeah, this seemed like a bullcrap story to me.
	It did, didn't it?
	But I believe it's true.
	Well, I looked at the...
	It was an RFI or an RFP? RFP. Yeah.
	It looked legit.
	Okay, well, and I think that goes along with the story...
	How is that?
	It goes along with the story I've been saving that you actually responded to very negatively when someone mentioned it to you on Twitter.
	I think maybe because you didn't believe it.
	The headline is, Cynics face far higher risk of Alzheimer's.
	Oh yeah, right.
	Bullcrap.
	There you go.
	I don't remember reading that.
	I don't remember saying bullcrap even.
	Just now.
	Researchers asked 1,449 people with an average age of 71, take note John, to take two tests.
	Let's see if we can take it.
	You're not 71, but maybe you can take the test.
	Hold on.
	Okay.
	Let's see if we have a test.
	This is Dr.
	Simon Ridley from Alzheimer's Research UK said, There are likely to be many risk factors for dementia, and this study suggests that a person's outlook may also have a role to play.
	However, only a small number of the volunteer study developed dementia.
	Oh, man.
	See the...
	It's already bad stuff.
	Yeah, but I mean, they might as well say 13 reasons why cynics face far higher risk of Alzheimer's.
	I mean, that's what we need.
	Yeah.
	Why do people love lists so much?
	What is it with that?
	What is the human...
	I think it's the completion factor.
	You mean like doing three dots after a sentence?
	No, no, no.
	Direct marketers know this trick.
	It's called a completion factor and people play into it.
	You sell miniature cars, let's say, by mail order.
	Just to name something you're not collecting by any chance, right?
	Are you sure?
	Come on.
	For an artwork I'm working on.
	Anyway, so you collect these rings or coins.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Go ahead.
	Try and gloss over it.
	So you buy one.
	I've always wanted a replica of a 47 Ford pickup truck.
	And so you buy it, it's cheap.
	They're giving them away.
	There's like a buck fifty and of course you can subscribe and get more for five bucks a piece every month.
	So you buy the one truck for the steal price of a buck fifty, but it's a mail order game anyway.
	Oh, this is like the cancel anytime you want, get this free gift?
	Pretty much, but this is a little different because we're talking about the completion factor.
	So you get the one little cheap truck for $1.50 and you can cancel if you want it or not.
	Wait, but this is what I, as a kid, it was a kit, like a model kit of a model airplane or something.
	Yeah, I know that's one of the factors, but that's not what I'm talking about.
	Hmm.
	Yes, you do that, and they can put you on a subscription and get more and more of them.
	Yeah, that's not it.
	But the kicker is what they do, what the completion factor element is, is they send you the free or the cheap little truck, and then they send you a rack that holds 20 of them.
	Yeah, got it.
	And you have your one truck in the rack.
	In the rack, yeah, and it doesn't look good.
	You have a human sense of obligation to fill up this...
	They do it with coin collectors.
	You get the, you know, if my daughter had it, it happened to her.
	She started collecting the new fancier quarters with all the little states on the back and she bought one of those little binders that holds all the coins.
	From the Franklin Mint?
	She was nuts about filling it up.
	She had to fill it up.
	Okay, so how does that compare, how does that apply to the listicles?
	I think there's the same element at play.
	If there's 13 things that you will now have access to that knowledge of, you feel the obligation to read through the list until it's done, until you're at number 13.
	I believe it's the same function.
	Now, the ones that always crack me up is that this 13, 9, you always have to have a different kind of screwy number.
	It's all sales.
	And so they have all these different, you know, 13, this, 9, that, the 5 best, and all the rest.
	The ones that always cracked me up is when I think it was Glamour or Mademoiselle or some of these women's magazines came out with these 595 ways.
	To satisfy your man.
	613 new ideas to look better.
	I never did get that mechanism.
	I don't know what they were doing.
	Well, should we not try to apply this to our newsletter?
	We could.
	I could go with the 600, but I didn't have the right 600.
	No, no, don't do 600, but let's just do 15 reasons donating will change your life, your sex life.
	That would probably have a high open rate.
	Let me tell you about open rate.
	I got invited by people that listen to the show.
	They know that we expose these things.
	So we had a huge open rate on one of the newsletters recently.
	Because the research...
	I've done this before.
	It's kind of a cheap trick.
	But I do it because the open rates are just...
	Oh, wait a minute.
	I know exactly which one had the high open rate.
	Yeah.
	The one with subject line, hey.
	Yes.
	That's amazing because I saw that and I was like, oh shit, John wants to say something.
	It's going to be bad or like...
	Usually something like that would come in from you and be like, hey, don't ever do that again.
	That's never...
	Or I've noticed this.
	Yeah, that was a good one.
	Oh, it's the newsletter.
	You got me.
	I got a couple of notes from some guy.
	He said he saw this hay and he says, you know, I couldn't.
	I just had to open it.
	Nothing I could do.
	And it turns out that's been research.
	I mean, that came from research.
	That is the number one.
	For people out there who want to send out some newsletters or do something like that.
	But you can't do it every week.
	Of course you can.
	Of course not.
	I've done it twice.
	I did it once about six months ago.
	But you can do it every so often.
	And it does have a high rate of return.
	People open the newsletter.
	Most of them, it doesn't sound like anything I'm interested in.
	But the only other time I receive an email with subject line, hey, is usually followed by, I am sexy girl from India.
	I notice you are in my neighborhood.
	Let us hook up.
	Surely you've seen this one.
	It's always like, you're in my neighborhood.
	The funny thing is, when I see hay as the subject line, I tend to pop it open, too.
	Of course.
	Well, the big thing that happened this week, which is astounding to me, because I actually sat down and tracked this and looked at the response from not just people on the tweeters, but also...
	Our own audience.
	And you can always follow me on Twitter.
	The media.
	But everyone was so happy and gleeful to let us all know that the CIA had joined Twitter.
	Oh yeah.
	While the actual...
	A news story that the CIA has now requested to the Second U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals that less information or more redaction be put in place on their legal justification of droning American citizens.
	No one talked about that.
	And I'm thinking, these guys are brilliant.
	Get out there with your stupid-ass tweet.
	I'm going to say something funny to the CIA! Even WikiLeaks.
	We can't wait to report on your undisclosed CIA. But the real news is they're trying to cover up the fact that they want to redact their justification for droning American citizens.
	It's gorgeous.
	It's beyond me.
	Yeah.
	And if you're out there and you tweeted or retweeted something about the CIA, shame on you.
	I agree.
	And unfortunately, I saw a lot of our producers fall for the trap.
	Yeah, yeah, that wouldn't surprise me.
	I put it in the show.
	I'm concerned that anyone using the whole, or starts to communicate with the CIA over Twitter, they're on a hit list.
	I don't know about that.
	It's a honeypot.
	No, it's not.
	It's just as stupid as the CIA gift shop.
	Anyone can walk in there, you take the tour, you buy it.
	I got a whole bunch of challenge coins, everything.
	It's just like the gift shop.
	It's nothing more, nothing else.
	It's stupid.
	And it's completely meant to distract from the real news.
	When did the CIA join?
	Because this news came out, I think June.
	It was like last week.
	No, I think it was earlier.
	No, later.
	It was around the 5th or 6th.
	Wasn't it two days ago?
	Three days ago?
	Maybe, yeah.
	It was after the show.
	Let's take a look.
	Twitter slash CIA. Let's look at their first tweet.
	It doesn't say when they first joined.
	Yeah, they'll have their first tweet.
	Yeah, June 6th.
	Their first tweet.
	We can neither confirm nor deny that this is our first tweet.
	June 6th.
	Oh, that is so funny!
	June 6th.
	U.S. government, citing possible exceptionally grave harm to national security, told a federal appeals court that wants to give the public less information about its legal justification for using drones to kill Americans suspected of terrorism overseas.
	The Central Intelligence Agency made the request and paper submitted late Thursday...
	Yeah.
	The same day this tweet comes out.
	Hello?
	Are you people stupid?
	It's amazing, but yet I'm not amazed.
	Of course.
	Don't look over there.
	Oh boy, we haven't played that one in a while.
	Hold on a second.
	Don't look over here!
	Nothing to see here!
	Ooh, look at that!
	Anyway, I thought that was dumbfounding, ladies and gentlemen.
	Dumbfounding.
	Yeah.
	A couple of proclamations that came in.
	Of course, we had D-Day.
	My grandfather landed at Normandy, and he actually fought in Arnhem, the infamous Bridge Too Far.
	And it was kind of weird that to hear the president, I don't know, it didn't feel right when he was talking about, when he did this big emotional speech.
	Do you see any of it?
	Only a snippet.
	It just felt weird.
	I can't exactly pinpoint what was off about it.
	It was the second Obama.
	It was the other guy.
	So, anyway, he has thankfully proclaimed it D-Day, National Remembrance Day, 2014.
	But also, we start a brand new week.
	Let's see if you can guess what it is, John.
	Let's do a little echo.
	I've been practicing on my Echo.
	Over farmlands and town squares, atop skyscrapers and capital buildings, the American flag soars.
	It reminds us of our history.
	Thirteen colonies that rose up against an empire and celebrates the spirit of 50 proud states that form our union today.
	That's the hint.
	That is the hint.
	Flag Day.
	Yes, and National Flag Week.
	Flag Week.
	So we can all fly the Stars and Stripes.
	And the President directs...
	Well, I'm looking around the neighborhood here.
	I'm looking out the window, and I'm looking, I don't see anything.
	No.
	What do you expect?
	It's, you know, Berkeley area.
	The President has also announced his delegation to attend the Federative Republic of Brazil's opening of the FIFA World Cup ceremony.
	This is a gig we gotta get in on.
	This is cool, man.
	You get sent off as a member of the...
	I'm sure you get to take Air Force Two or something like that, don't you think?
	I would think you'd take some sort of a...
	Maybe just a C-140.
	With a strap-in chair, with the lawn chairs.
	Dan Pfeiffer, Senior Advisor to the President, will be leading the delegation.
	He needs to go because he's been annoying recently.
	He's been saying stupid stuff on the Sunday shows.
	The Honorable Liliana Ayald.
	She is the ambassador to Brazil.
	Michelle Akers, retired member of the United States Women's National Soccer Team.
	And, oh, Gabriella Reese.
	I don't know who any of these people are.
	Gabriella Reese, beach volleyball world champion.
	Hello.
	I don't...
	Let me see.
	Smokin' is what she is.
	She smokes?
	Smokin' hot.
	Oh.
	Smokin' hot.
	Gabriella Reese.
	R-E-E. Smokin' hot.
	C-E. Oh, there she is.
	She's very attractive.
	Yes.
	And the president also announced the designation of the presidential delegation to Kyiv, Ukraine, to attend the inauguration of His Excellency Petro Porcheshenko, president-elect of Ukraine.
	Excellency!
	And that, of course, was yesterday.
	And attending were Dr.
	Joe...
	See the Ambassador, John McCain, Ron Johnson, Chris Murphy, Marcia Marcy Capter.
	Really?
	That's pretty funny.
	The Honorable Marcia Marcy Capter.
	I've got nicknames now.
	Bayer.
	And Newland, of course.
	Now that you mention McCain...
	Yeah.
	I can segue out of this.
	Good.
	We need it.
	So the VA was having a press conference about, you know, even though nobody cares anymore.
	Well, because it's been blown off the radar.
	It's been blown off the radar.
	Meanwhile, of course, at the VA press conference where they're talking about it's not the doctor's fault and there's not enough of a workload.
	I think the common complaint was the doctors that work for the VA don't really do enough.
	They see a couple of patients when they could see five kind of thing.
	Meanwhile, McCain's up there with the rest of these guys, Coburn and the rest.
	And he just starts mouthing off about the Bergdahl deal and it becomes a kind of a heated debate.
	So this decision to bring Sergeant Bergdahl home and we applaud that he is home is ill founded.
	It is a mistake and it is putting the lives of American servicemen and women at risk.
	and that, to me, is unacceptable to the American people.
	He tries to walk off.
	Say what?
	He's now trying to get off.
	This is a VA thing.
	He wants to leave.
	Are they pushing him back on the stage?
	It's not as though they're pushing him back.
	He jumps back in.
	Taliban.
	No, they were al-Qaeda.
	Members of al-Qaeda, too.
	Yeah.
	They were associated with and part of the Taliban.
	I'm sure you are aware that in 2001, the Taliban and al-Qaeda were working together, which is the reason why we went there.
	These individuals were working with Al-Qaeda.
	These people have dedicated their lives to destroying us.
	These people have dedicated their very existence.
	Is that by presidential proclamation?
	Apparently.
	Why do you think that when the judgment was made that if they released them it would pose a great risk to the United States of America?
	The Taliban.
	They are Taliban and Al-Qaeda.
	Don't you understand that?
	Were you around?
	Like you said, you're an old man.
	You might remember that in 2001, Al-Qaeda found a haven with the Taliban.
	That's why we initially invaded Afghanistan.
	To somehow separate these people from Al-Qaeda is just damn foolishness.
	I understand your problem with giving up the five Taliban cabinet members.
	I still can't get my head around applauding that Bergdahl's home and opposing the swap.
	Should he still be in captivity under these circumstances or should he not?
	I think that the deal should not have been made, as I've said many times.
	But I would make every effort and continue to make every effort to bring him home.
	Thank you.
	This is interesting.
	I also received a couple emails, two of which I'd like to share, since, of course, we also kind of kicked off our coverage from our head mofo in charge, the sergeant, with his assessment of the situation.
	And there's multiple angles to be looked at in this case.
	This will be the last time I think we should spend any attention on...
	You know, I know what you're saying, and I would feel the same way, except I don't think we're going to get away from it because these politicos...
	I mean, when they're interrupting a VA hospital scandal press conference, I think we're going to see more of this, by the way.
	If these congressmen and congresspeople decide to start taking questions that are off topic to that extreme.
	Although that is not atypical.
	Even the president, when he's in Brussels talking about NATO, or talking about anything, they'll ambush him with questions.
	And, of course, it's not an ambush because these things are— I think McCain might have been— sounded like he went a little off script here.
	Here's one from one of our producers who grew up in Haley, Idaho.
	This is a hometown of Bo Diddley.
	Producer says, I never knew Bo directly, but obviously became aware of him after his capture.
	Haley is a small town, and Bob Bergdahl drove a UPS truck, and my house was on his route.
	From what I understand, the Bergdahl's parents are on the hippie spectrum, which I think is treatable.
	And they homeschooled their children.
	Another treatable offense.
	I wanted to direct you to a story written by Michael Hastings in 2012.
	Now, you've probably seen this as well.
	Right, we've actually discussed the elements of this.
	Yeah, so the person says, a long, very good article, but it's impossible for me to summarize.
	What I gleaned from the article was that Beau was a naive kid and tried and failed to join the French Foreign Legion.
	Anyway, our producer closed by saying, I hope you have time to read it.
	The news cycle in the last week has been pretty disgusting as a kid who's been...
	And a kid who has been POW for five years has been reduced to a bunch of sound bites for the left and right to argue about.
	Another reason I am happy to call myself an independent.
	Haley Idaho has received threats for wanting to celebrate Bo's release from the Taliban.
	Let's bomb him!
	And has subsequently canceled the scheduling celebrations.
	We're aware he's not a hero and made many bad choices, but he is the only son of one of our neighbors, and we are happy he did not end up being killed in captivity.
	So that's one.
	And then the other one...
	And very reasonable, I might add.
	This is why I feel we should read this.
	It's important.
	Adam, grateful for your and John's coverage of the Bergdahl affair and the media backlash against the lies propagated by the, quote, official channels.
	However, there are lies and myths trues on both sides of the story.
	What particularly irks me are the stories parading the loss of soldiers' lives during the search for Bergdahl.
	SSG Bowen and PFC Walker were not killed in the search for Bergdahl.
	We, and this person is saying I was in Comanche Company during all of this, were providing security in the remote town of Dila for the Afghan national elections, which were a farce in their own right.
	Village elders were allowed to cast votes for an entire village at once in a similar vein to the three-fifth rule of the slave era.
	Anyway, SSG Murphy, also of CCO, oh, that would be Charlie Company, no, Comanche Company, was killed by an IED on a convoy route security overwatch point, again, not on a mission in support of the Bergdahl Search and Rescue.
	Lieutenant Andrews, SSG Curtis, and Private Martinek, Martinek, I guess, were in other companies within the battalion, so I don't know the details of the missions that led to their destiny.
	Still, it's sickening and lends credence to your thesis on the Obama administration being set up to fail that the circumstances surrounding the deaths of at least three soldiers are being distorted to fit an agenda.
	Also very valid.
	Outstanding.
	And this came through...
	A lot of people that never listened to the show before should note that we have a network of experiments all over the world.
	And this came through...
	I believe this to be authentic.
	And again, you can always send me encrypted email.
	People like doing that.
	It gives them some idea of...
	And it comes into my own mail server, so at least I have some idea that they're protected.
	I did pick up a soundbite myself, however, from Oliver North, who, of course, he's been known to lie.
	In fact, wasn't that his whole problem?
	He was a liar and a loose cannon.
	But he has a different take on this whole affair, which I thought listen-worthy.
	The words prisoner of war keep being bandied about by this administration.
	Bo Bergdahl was not a prisoner of war.
	The Geneva Conventions, the International Committee of the Red Cross, our own laws define what a prisoner of war is.
	Bo Bergdahl was a hostage.
	Now, I've got certain experience dealing with Americans who have been held hostage.
	Every one of those kinds of events begins with some kind of negotiation about a transaction.
	I understand how it works.
	It is a terrible, terrible thing to have to sit down either directly with the bad people who've got them or with intermediaries and decide on the price that's going to be paid for an American citizen to get free.
	And someone is paid an enormous ransom, not just the five, which is bad, but worse yet, someone paid a ransom, whether the Qataris paid it or some big oil shake or somebody used our petrodollars, but there was a ransom paid in cash for each one of them.
	My guess, somewhere in the round numbers of five or six million dollars to get the dollar free.
	Wow.
	I know that the offer that was on the table before was close to a million.
	That certainly puts a different perspective on everything.
	Yeah, that's not bad.
	I give them credit for that one.
	There's something else that's kind of fishy.
	Now, this is a clip, and the clip is, if you want to cue it up, is a missed clip.
	I was doing my clips this morning, and I was just doing some archiving, and I found this.
	Some hoarding.
	Yeah, well, I've got to save a lot of these clips.
	So I found this at the beginning of it.
	I don't have the whole clip.
	I just have a piece of it.
	And as I played it, To cue up the clip I wanted to save, I said, oh, there was something in this clip that I had missed twice because I would have been in the last show.
	And this is a...
	I just found this whole...
	He's explaining what was going on preceding the Bergdahl affair in...
	And I just thought, play this clip and then we can just maybe try to dissect it.
	Hundreds of people, and they actually have been training every six months.
	They've been meeting and training for a week for the last five years.
	That means they've rehearsed this scenario, including stand-ins for the sergeant and his family, at least ten times now.
	Do we know what his daily life will look like once he gets to Texas?
	You can stop it.
	Stand-ins?
	So, for the last five years, at least once every six months...
	They've been rehearsing this exchange?
	They've been rehearsing the bringing back to town, the celebration...
	Oh, really?
	...reintroducing to his parents, all that sort of thing.
	And who was this reporting?
	Well, that was on CNN. I can't remember his name, but he's one of the big voices that was reporting to Anderson Cooper.
	And I was just listening to this.
	So this thing is like a wag the dog thing.
	And again, it reminded me of the Woody Harrelson moment in Wag the Dog, where they bring these guys like, wait a minute, this isn't what we expected, which is kind of what happened.
	But they have been working on this every six months.
	They bring hundreds of people together to do a fake reuniting with his parents, a big town celebration.
	I just found that to be extremely disturbing.
	And it's interesting you say that.
	Whenever we go in and we save somebody, there's video.
	If you'll recall, was it Jessica?
	What was her name again?
	Jessica, the captured female army girl.
	I recently was shown the entire video footage by one of the people who recorded it.
	Again, this is from our, and it was shown to me, you know, in an air gap situation, right?
	No connection to the internet.
	Right.
	It was shown to me on someone else's laptop.
	And not only that, but I saw the full capture of Saddam Hussein video.
	There's a lot of interesting stuff.
	But the whole story behind...
	What was her name, Jessica?
	What's her last name?
	I can't remember.
	Keep talking, I'll dig it up.
	What really happened there is the platoon or whatever was out in their trucks and they got spooked by something and they gunned the engine, they ran over a bunch of people, killed them, then hit the light post and that's how she wound up in the hospital.
	Just the lynch.
	And so this video is the full video of them landing with a helicopter, and it's all the night vision stuff.
	And they just walk into the hospital, and everyone's like, hey, she's over here.
	She's like, oh, okay, hey, how you doing?
	Everything's really cool and calm.
	People are like, oh, you come to get her?
	And they load her up on the gurney and they walk her out.
	In fact, there's a certain point in the video that did make it into the news footage where the guy holding the gurney walking backwards up the ramp into the helicopter, he falls, he stumbles, and almost drops her.
	And that apparently has been, like, you know, one of the most, the funniest things in the, amongst the brigade or whatever you call it.
	Like, oh, dude, you're such a douchebag.
	You almost dropped her.
	But the whole thing is, it was not like some crazy, like, they were going under fire.
	They landed, they walked right in.
	It's the American public.
	It was like they rescued her.
	Yeah.
	In fact, there were some stories that came out much later, like the Toronto Star.
	I'm looking at one here.
	It says, the real saving Private Lynch story.
	Iraqi medical staff tells a different story than U.S. military.
	We all became friends with her.
	We liked her so much.
	And this is the kind of thing that is just going on constantly.
	We don't know what they were planning for this Bergdahl character, but they were rehearsing it, I guess, for five years.
	So there's where my question was going to come from.
	How come we didn't see another one of the videos that are made?
	These videos are made.
	Whenever they do something like this, they're videoing.
	Case in point, we have all this video from previous rescues.
	Why was this video...
	From the other side.
	Why was it apparently Taliban video?
	Do we know?
	Yeah, that's what we're told.
	Well, it could be anybody's video.
	It could be rehearsal footage for all we know.
	It could be.
	Geez.
	I don't believe the word of it.
	I mean, I think this whole thing, you know, if they're rehearsing the meeting with the parents and the celebration in the little town, I mean, every six months with 100 people or more, you can't trust any of this coverage at all.
	It's just embarrassing.
	I know film directors that are jealous of that budget, boy.
	We can rehearse for five years every six months with 100 people?
	Five years of rehearsals?
	With choppers?
	Yeah.
	Wow!
	With choppers and AKs and everything?
	Yeah, well, it's very distressing.
	But that's why we do this show.
	Yeah.
	Well, I find that an interesting point there, for sure.
	But I don't think we'll ever really know.
	But it's being politicized, that's for sure.
	That is for sure.
	By all size.
	They all have their little edge.
	I mean, you get to watch...
	In fact, one of the things...
	I hate to tell you this, because we're going to go into it, because it segues.
	I ended up watching Al Sharpton.
	Wait.
	I mean, how does this guy make a million dollars or more to do this show?
	It's beyond me.
	No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
	You're not going to do that to me.
	Now, here we go.
	There's no real conflict!
	Now, he is all in on the Obama story about Bergdahl, and he thinks the Republicans are a bunch of a-holes for condemning him because we can't leave anyone behind.
	You know, the same memes that we've talked about.
	But you've got to...
	There's a couple things.
	One, this woman from Salon Magazine is at the table with him, and she references him as Rev.
	Rev?
	As in cuz?
	Yeah, Rev.
	Hey, Rev.
	Alright, Rev.
	Okay, nice.
	Now, I have...
	One, two, I have four clips of Sharpton, but the one we'll start with, which is the one in Moaning and Groaning, about the prisoner.
	I want you to listen to this clip, Sharpton, on prisoner, and when he says it's a, it's a, you'll just play it.
	And Joan, I think it's important that despite all of that, that He was still being held captive.
	I don't know what's right or wrong, true or not, but he was a captive, and when they came and got him, he cried and went home.
	So, I mean, this is not a shut-and-dry kind of situation the right wing is raising.
	And as the president said, he was ours, we had to go get him.
	Shut and dry.
	This ain't shut and dry.
	You know, there should be a whole dictionary for this guy.
	Shut and dry.
	What would the actual quote be?
	Cut and dry.
	Cut and dry, yes.
	Cut and dry would...
	I don't know what the shut comes from.
	He's obviously combined.
	It's called a mixed metaphor, of course.
	Skillets.
	Skillets.
	Here is a Sharpton's series of, and he babbles.
	He just can't even put a sentence together.
	Of course, that doesn't mean I can, but I'm not paid that kind of money.
	I'm not on MSNBC. Sharpton's series with Joan Walsh.
	That's what she calls him, Rev.
	The Rev Girl.
	Absolutely.
	And, you know, Wes is right.
	It's very moving when you think about what was done to bring him back.
	I mean, are we going to suddenly have a standard where journalists and pundits and Bill Kristol get to decide whether your character is such that we ought to go get you, Rev, if you're captured in the field of battle?
	In the field of battle with our sacred duty?
	Rev?
	Rev.
	So that's what we call him from now on, Rev.
	It's his first name, I think.
	It probably makes more sense.
	Why do you think?
	When you have another child, name him, anyone out there, name the kid Revland.
	Just Rev.
	No, just Rev.
	Oh, Rev.
	Just Rev.
	Oh, yeah, we watched a NASCAR. Yeah.
	So, it seems like, looking at a broader overview, maybe all of this was just meant to create this patriotic conversation.
	You know what I mean?
	Maybe.
	Because that's where it comes down to our sacred duty.
	All of that are patriotic type words.
	It's what they have with the sacred duty and all these sorts of things about no man left behind and all the rest.
	Why these veterans are dying in the waiting line.
	Yeah.
	The irony of using this to obfuscate the other problem is it's just too funny.
	And we got a guy in Mexico in jail.
	We've got a guy still in Cuba, I think.
	Right.
	Isn't it our sacred duty?
	Yeah, or is it sacred duty to get that guy out of Mexico?
	Isn't Guantanamo Bay, isn't that like in Cuba?
	Yes, it is.
	So why don't we just walk across the street?
	You can't get it.
	And how silly is that?
	This whole idea that Cuba is evil and special paperwork if you ever even want to consider going there and they're suppressing their people, but yet we have a base on Cuba.
	Well, it's actually our territory that was leased, and it's not like...
	From who?
	Let me guess.
	From the Cubans?
	But it was long before...
	It was an old deal.
	It's like Hong Kong being not part of China until 1997.
	And then they gave it away, essentially.
	Yeah, but still.
	Go get the guy.
	Isn't that our sacred duty?
	Well, it's our sacred duty.
	I don't know why they don't do something about it.
	Our sacred oath?
	All right, give me more Sharpton.
	Okay, now Sharpton, since we're on Sharpton, Sharpton decides to go after the school.
	Well, actually, play this a new clip and get that out of the way.
	And we won't end the war and leave you over there.
	I mean, if we're winding down a war, what are we saying to Bergdahl and his family?
	All right, we're winding it down, everything's over, and...
	You're on your own.
	You're on your own.
	Yeah.
	We're just going to leave you there.
	But it didn't take long, John, for some of the right to start comparing this to Benghazi.
	Benghazi.
	They always try to connect their dots on their conspiracy road and their things to criticize them.
	I mean, former Republican Governor Johnson knew no way then, and then Congressman Buck McKeon.
	Benghazi, Benghazi, Benghazi.
	Go someplace and shoot yourself!
	I got...
	Here, here's one more Sharpton clip you gotta play.
	This is on the other...
	I could play these all day long.
	Okay, Sharpton dealing with facts.
	We have different facts.
	President Bush released more detainees from Gitmo than President Obama.
	This is just a fact.
	532 detainees were released from Guantanamo under President Bush.
	87 have been released under President Obama.
	Yet the right wing is acting like there's no precedent for this, Captain.
	I mean, let's just deal with the facts and the numbers as they are.
	Facts!
	Press a tent.
	It's a press a tent for that.
	I got me a press a tent.
	Man, this guy is just unbelievable.
	What he doesn't say is that Bush let out over 500 and Obama's let out 85, but Obama's the one who promised to close the place down.
	This guy is the worst, I think, broadcaster I've ever seen in my life.
	Well, the only thing that's irksome to us is that he's making so much money doing it.
	On the other hand, I will say...
	It's not a zero-sum game, so it's not coming out of our pocket.
	What a thankless place to be.
	Here's another kind of silly one.
	This is a short clip.
	Sharpton both start with a B. Listen to this one.
	Okay.
	I mean, Benghazi, B. They both start with a B, Rav.
	I think that's what it is.
	There it is.
	I didn't figure that one out.
	Is that that woman from Salon?
	Yeah.
	That's what he needs.
	Now, if I were running MSNBC, first of all, they'd have ratings.
	Sidekick.
	Yeah.
	Yes, he needs someone, like a morning show female sidekick, and she needs to be super, super cracker white to correct him.
	Yeah, which is this woman.
	Yeah, she actually was doing a good...
	Let me just listen to that again.
	It sounded like a morning zoo show right there.
	I mean, Benghazi, B. They both start with B, Rev.
	I think that's what it is.
	Woo-hoo!
	Yeah!
	Bang on the drum all day!
	Woo-hoo!
	Morning zoo with Reverend Elf!
	No conflict!
	Well, she does have apparently a job as a political analyst.
	All she says on this show is, yeah, yeah, Rev, yeah.
	You know, that's Sesame Street level.
	You know, when someone says to you, they both start with the letter B. Yeah, no, I think they should make her a regular on the show.
	She's always smiling and she's always nodding in agreement with whatever he says.
	She must feel a little like an idiot because this guy's saying things like press it.
	But she doesn't care because she's on TV, you see.
	When you move from the salon, this is the big deal.
	People love this.
	And she does it for free, believe me.
	That also starts with a B. Oh, I'm going to be on TV. She'll be tweeting it.
	Yeah, I'm going to be on the rev show today.
	On MSNBC, all ten of you can watch.
	Now, there was one other segment that had nothing to do with Benghazi or Bergdahl or anything else that starts with a B. But there's a school lunch.
	They had a school lunch expert come on, and he did this bit to defend Michelle Obama because what she wants to do with school lunches is being rejected by the evil Republicans.
	And so they show a school lunch.
	I have to kind of explain to you what they did.
	After you play this clip, which is a little long, but they show us traditional, supposedly traditional school lunch.
	When I was a kid and we had school lunches, this is not what they fed us.
	But this is apparently they feed some people.
	How much was milk?
	What was your milk money?
	How much was that when you went to school?
	Nickel.
	Now, how can that be?
	It was four cents for me.
	It was a nickel.
	Weird.
	It was four, and I know I'm younger than you.
	Yeah.
	It was four cents, because my mom would put them in a plastic bag.
	Oh, I miss her.
	Four pennies, and it would be the little triangle of milk.
	Did you have the little triangle package?
	No, no, we had the little small cartons.
	Oh.
	Aw, how cute was that?
	She put in a little baggie for me, my milk money.
	I'm sorry.
	I'm falling apart.
	I don't want you to cheer up on us.
	I'm going to try not to.
	Let's go here to the table for a minute because I want to show something.
	The table in front of us, we have an example of these school lunches.
	And what was used and what they used to look like and how the program is trying to improve them.
	Let's look at plate one.
	This is what a typical lunch menu used to look like.
	A slice of pizza, some canned pineapples.
	Some french fries, ketchup, and a cup of chocolate milk.
	This adds up to 750 calories, 26 grams of fat, over 1200 milligrams of sodium.
	That's a lot of salt and 42 grams of sugar.
	I'll show them.
	What parent would want their kids eating this junk, Tom?
	Not me.
	I have a couple kids.
	I have three children.
	Wait, who's this?
	This is some expert.
	He's an expert because he has a couple of kids?
	Yeah, that's the reason.
	This junk at all.
	You have a much healthier plate here.
	Now let's look at here where you're talking.
	This is what we would get with the first ladies.
	This is after the implementation.
	Slice of whole wheat pizza, some baked sweet potato fries, great tomatoes, with low-fat ranch dip, apple sauce, and some low...
	Man, you know what super day for us at the school lunch was Sloppy Joe Day.
	That was the day.
	We had that too.
	Yeah, Sloppy...
	We had lasagna, we had spaghetti.
	Lasagna, spaghetti, which also starts with a B. Now...
	Well, there's more to this clip.
	Should we just continue?
	Yeah, play the rest of the clip, but I want to explain what we're actually seeing here.
	What, do you want to do that now, or are we playing it?
	Well, actually, we could do it now.
	We have the two plates.
	Now, the president's, Michelle's plate consists of the same pizza, only made with whole wheat dough.
	Okay, maybe that's still pizza.
	But instead of having french fries and ketchup, which is what the other plate had, and the ketchup was there...
	As for the french fries, obviously, for kids that dip the fries in the ketchup, although Sharpton contends it was there as a vegetable, because you remember that old...
	Yeah, tomato, ketchup as a vegetable, yeah.
	So that's replaced with deep fat fried sweet potatoes, which is a product, I'm telling you, 90% of the kids in America outside of the South will not eat.
	Really?
	Really.
	French fried sweet potatoes or French fried yams are very unacceptable.
	But they're super tasty.
	They don't have the right texture.
	They're not French fries.
	I'm telling you, nobody wants to eat those.
	You nailed it on the head right there.
	And my daughter started with this.
	I don't think I ever had this as a kid.
	But texture is such a, there's something with the programming that has gone into our kids' heads, probably through advertising.
	Texture is very, it's more important than taste, than anything else.
	Texture, size, dimensions.
	And you're right, when you look at a french fry, it's like apples, you know, you go to the, or tomatoes.
	You go to the market here, you get our heirloom tomatoes, you know, they look like they got the plague.
	There's no kids will eat those.
	And it's really weird.
	Texture.
	I don't like the texture.
	What does that mean?
	They just don't like the way it feels in their mouth.
	Mouthfeel would be kind of a gourmet way of putting it.
	Anyway, so they have these...
	Nobody's going to eat these fries.
	And then they have, instead of the canned pineapples, which is where all that sugar comes from in the other meal, you know, how about fresh pineapple?
	There's a million things to do.
	Yeah, how about pineapple?
	Just pineapple.
	Just get a pineapple, cut it up.
	It's too much work.
	And the other one has got applesauce.
	Now, I don't know about you, but eating fried yams and a pizza on a crap bread with applesauce is not a combination that has any appeal in anybody's universe.
	But okay.
	But the president, but Michelle said it was better.
	And then they have a...
	Wait, stop, stop, stop, stop.
	It's all coming back to me.
	Did you ever have Tuna a la King Day?
	No, but we had tuna.
	Tuna a la King was this gooey mixture of tuna with goop and peas.
	Actually, it's tuna, bechamel, and peas, yeah.
	Would you say bechamel?
	It's a bechamel, essentially.
	It's flour and milk.
	Yeah, it's gooey.
	And it would be on a piece of toast.
	Right.
	And we would call it S.O.S., Shit on a shingle.
	Right.
	Which traditionally is chip beef.
	Yeah, but we, younger generation, we had no chip beef.
	Right.
	And I think that was the one time we had tuna a la King Day is when we had the food fight.
	Probably on Friday.
	Someone chucked one of those and that was just all over.
	Oh, God.
	Let me continue my analysis.
	Yeah, I'm sorry.
	So there's also, of course, he says that ketchup is...
	Is a vegetable.
	Is a vegetable.
	And so you have on this other plate, the Obama plate, a small bowl of cherry tomatoes and a ranch dressing that these kids, I suppose, are supposed to grab the tomato and dip it with their pinky finger in the air into the ranch dressing.
	One moment, I'm getting my ranch dressing...
	I mean, give me a break!
	This adds up to just under 500 calories, 14 grams of fat, 1,000 milligrams of sodium, 31 grams of sugar.
	There's still pizza and fries, but it's significantly healthier than when the kids were eating previously on our first table.
	What do you say to Republicans that are going against this?
	Well, you know what?
	It's really, what Republicans are doing, it's nothing about what's on this plate at all.
	This is about $10 billion.
	Stop.
	You should play it, but he derails Sharpton here by saying it's not about the food anyway.
	It's about the guys doing the food.
	You can play the rest of it, or let me finish this one little tidbit of analysis that he's bitching about.
	First of all, where's the vegetables?
	Well, that's the catch.
	Michelle Obama's supposed to be a big time, you know, we're going to modernize the food.
	All she's done is substitute crap for crap.
	There is nothing except for the tomatoes, which kids won't eat, and you can be sure those tomatoes are tasteless, because that's the only way you can do that sort of thing.
	Can I interrupt you for a moment?
	It's funny, you just said something very telling.
	You said Michelle Obama was supposed to be or doing X, Y, and Z. Correct?
	Yeah.
	As if she is actually really doing something.
	Right.
	Well, representing a movement.
	Ah!
	This I picked up from CNN a couple weeks ago.
	I've been saving it because I didn't quite know where to fit it in.
	This is Carol, who of course is my favorite, on CNN. Carol.
	Nothing is more important than the health and well-being of our children.
	Nothing.
	And our hopes for their future should drive every single decision that we make.
	That was Mrs.
	Obama back in 2010 when she signed the Healthy Hunger-Free Kids Act into law.
	Oh, really?
	She signs bills into law.
	What a great clip!
	She signs bills into law these days.
	Holy crap.
	Yeah, but it's easy, though.
	You see how that works?
	Yeah.
	Isn't that crazy?
	I think maybe it was subliminal.
	That was in the prompter.
	She's not making this up.
	No, somebody wrote it up and she read it because she's a prompter reader and that's what she signed it in the law.
	Excuse me, honey, I'm signing this one.
	Move over!
	Move your fat ass over!
	Whoa, whoa, that was unnecessary.
	Well, I mean, she's saying that to Obama, which is, he doesn't have fat ass on it.
	It's not out of line at all.
	I thought that was...
	That's what a wife would say to a husband.
	I'm glad I got to play that because I've been saving that for weeks now.
	Well, anyway, so we have the tomatoes and the little hoity-toity dip, which kids aren't going to deal with.
	They won't even use that dip.
	And they won't eat those tomatoes because those tomatoes are going to taste like crap.
	And there's no real vegetables.
	Where's the broccoli?
	Where's the salad?
	Where's the asparagus?
	Where's carrots even?
	Where's any of this?
	It's pizza and...
	Hey, how about kale?
	Just throw some kale in there for good measure.
	Who cares?
	The other thing was that he mentions, oh, 1,200 grams of salt, milligrams of salt, he says in the first meal.
	That's way too much salt, says the old skinny, sharp, because he's lost all this weight.
	The other one has 1,000.
	The difference is like, it's 3 milligrams, or 200 milligrams.
	Anyway, to me, watching this was a farce.
	There you go with your French again.
	There I go.
	Well, with that, John, let me thank you for your courage, and I'd like to wish you a very healthy and hearty in the morning, John C. Dvorak.
	Well, in the morning to you, Mr.
	Adam Curry, also.
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	Yeah.
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	Meanwhile, Sir David Foley, after donating $899.98, as you know he's been donating club show numbers for the last year, has gotten himself to the point where he is now, by his accounting, a Grand Duke, our second one.
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	Dad, do I have to?
	Dad, do I have to?
	I'm all in on the concept of value for value, having gotten my start in the 80s, making my living for years with shareware products, such as Hyperdisk.
	Oh, there you go.
	My entire income was dependent on voluntary registrations.
	Thank you for continuing to provide the best podcast in the universe.
	And chapeau beau to you, Sir David Foley, Grand Duke.
	Yes, Grand Duke of the United States.
	He has expanded beyond Silicon Valley to the United States.
	We shall...
	I'm not sure who made the Pelsmacher jingle, but we'll make sure we get one for the Grand Duke.
	We need to replace his barony, which he has over...
	Now he will be the supervisor of the barony with somebody else in Silicon Valley.
	Wow, that's pretty damn cool.
	That was very cool.
	Meanwhile, Chris Eve out of Tokyo, Japan has sent in $400 and he sent a note with it.
	In the morning, John and Adam, I have been a long time pre-donor.
	Hi!
	The closed amount is a small expression of gratitude for the many hours of insight and entertainment that you two have brought me.
	I'm sorry to have missed Adam's visit to Tokyo as I was out of town that week.
	Sounds like he had a great time and I really enjoyed listening to his comments and reflections on Japan.
	It really is a great place to live.
	Please keep up the good work.
	The show really is the best podcast in the universe and you can take that to the bank.
	Absolutely.
	I would like to request, I should have clued you on this one, sorry.
	I'd like to request a William Haig protect their freedom and some karma.
	Oh, okay.
	No, that's all right.
	I can do that.
	No problem.
	Intelligence work takes place within a strong legal framework.
	We operate under the rule of law and are accountable for it.
	In some countries, secret intelligence is used to control their people.
	In ours, it only exists to protect their freedoms.
	Protect their freedoms.
	Protect their freedoms.
	You've got karma.
	And I'll, uh, I'll add a little haiku to that for him.
	Meniwa Aoba Yama Hototo Gisu Hatsugatsuo By the way, Sir Mark from Tokyo sent me a note.
	He says, absolutely not a single Japanese person who played that for knew what the hell the guy was saying.
	Well, that's...
	You don't know what he's saying mostly anyway.
	Anyway, Chris ends with...
	Exactly.
	Anyway, onward.
	And let's see, let me get this spreadsheet so I can read it.
	These are long notes.
	LaPan in Mesa, Arizona.
	Donated August of last year and asked for jobs karma since I had just been fired.
	No karma.
	This is a $200 donation.
	It'll be an associate executive producer for show 624.
	No karma.
	No jobs for seven months.
	I had been in a great job for the last two months and now getting caught up.
	I would like to call out John C. DeVorek and Adam Curry as douchebags.
	What?
	For his being seven months without jobs karma with a prompt de-douching for the both of you.
	Douchebag!
	Do we get to de-douche now?
	Yeah.
	I feel dirty.
	You've been de-douched.
	Thank you.
	I would like to shout out to my mentor who turned me on to no agenda, Sean McDougal.
	Sean McDougal.
	I hope I make him proud.
	Anyway, thanks for keeping me informed.
	Hey, we gotta do our shout out.
	Sean McDougal!
	Yeah.
	Let's do it again.
	Okay, one, two, three.
	Sean McDougal!
	Ed Laboutier.
	Laboutier.
	Okay.
	In Hesperia, California.
	Nuts.
	200 bucks.
	Name is Laboutier.
	Laboutier?
	Laboutier.
	He's got it right there.
	Pivoting away from the compromised media to the no agenda show.
	I like the pivoting.
	Pivot away, yeah.
	Sir Todd Simons.
	$200 from Tambourine, Australia, where the tambourines are all made.
	In the morning, I asked for my house-buying karma.
	Wait a minute, wait a minute.
	Is that true?
	No.
	Oh.
	It's not spelled the same either.
	I asked for the house-buying karma.
	It's a funny idea, though.
	You could probably take, you know, the town could take credit for that.
	No one would know.
	I asked for a house-buying karma score of weeks back for Dame Melissa, Sir Alec, the breast milk and pablum kid, and myself, The banks had all said an outright no to us.
	It wasn't looking good.
	Two days after the show aired, Karma kicked in.
	The bank found a form that had been filled out incorrectly within their office, cleared the error, and instantly offered us the home loan with great terms to match.
	Needing an irrigation, we all began drilling today.
	This sounds sexy.
	Irrigation well.
	Oh, sorry.
	I thought I said we.
	Needing an irrigation well, we began drilling today, and drilling stopped at 33 meters deep.
	33, that's the magic number.
	We hid more water than you could ever want to use.
	And then some.
	It's time to donate, I thought.
	Karma works in so many ways.
	Just try it, people!
	Thanks, guys.
	Sir Todd.
	Have you ever...
	You know, you don't actually dig a well.
	I think you...
	You drill.
	It's not really drilling.
	It's done with water.
	Well, not around these parts.
	Oh, we did a well in Belgium.
	They actually call it spouting a well.
	And so you do have a drill bit, but it's continuously pumping water in.
	Maybe that's just Belgium, so I don't know.
	What do I know?
	Here's the karma.
	I should just shut up.
	You've got karma.
	33 meters, though.
	Pretty damn cool.
	Pretty cool.
	That's what I say.
	Hey, we want to thank these executive and associate executive producers for show 624.
	Very nice to have the big donations come in like that.
	We want to remind people we do have another show coming up on Thursday to go to dvorak.org slash NA, channeldvorak.com slash NA, or if you go to the noagendashow.com or noagendanation.com websites for whatever reason, including listening to the show or buying something, you click on the donate button and get an alternate site.
	And congratulations to D.H. Slammer.
	He just passed his technician test.
	So he is now officially a ham.
	I think we're going to start congratulating people when they pass their test.
	Okay.
	And we'll get you call letters out when they get their call letters.
	Exactly.
	And I wanted to send out a big thank you to ComicStripBlogger.
	He's done something really cool.
	He created a JavaScript thingamajob.
	And it's now in the show notes.
	In fact, can you just go to 623.noagendanotes.com for a second, John, just to check this out?
	You'll really like this.
	This is way cool.
	623.noagendanotes.com.
	Yeah.
	You got it?
	Yeah, hold on.
	Yeah.
	Okay, now you go to show notes.
	The tab there at the top, you see show notes?
	Mm-hmm.
	All right.
	Now, do you see it says on-page search?
	Mm-hmm.
	I'm looking.
	No, I don't see it on page search.
	At the top there.
	How can you not see it?
	There's a big box.
	I thought it was on the list.
	Yeah, but it's at the top there.
	So just type in anything you want.
	Like Obama is one you could type in.
	Boom!
	Oh, this is his thing?
	Yeah, so this is going through this entire list of show notes.
	And then these are all the stories that...
	Oh, nice.
	And then you click on Show and Outline, and then it shows you...
	It's kind of like the Kindle app, which highlights all the...
	Oh, nice.
	Isn't that cool?
	Right, right.
	Then it pops it out.
	Yeah.
	So, we just installed that.
	This would be very handy for all you researchers out there who have wisely, especially the students that listen to the show, who have wisely used the show notes, which have been, I would say, aren't the easiest thing to use because we have a lot of them.
	Yes.
	So, to find stuff is non-trivial, but now it's trivial.
	Yeah.
	So if you're looking for something we discussed in the show, you just type it right in there under the show notes tab and it will pop it up for you.
	So that's cool.
	So we thank him for that.
	And of course, as we thank all of our executive producers and associate executive producers for their courage and their support of the program.
	Of course, we'll have a knighting of our fresh baron later on in the program.
	And we'll thank the rest of the producers who came in at the above $50 level.
	And, of course, these credits are good wherever credits are accepted.
	And unlike the douchebags in Hollywood, we will, of course, vouch for you.
	Go to...
	And please, if you feel so compelled, go out and propagate the formula.
	Our formula is this.
	We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
	Water! Order!
	Shut up, slay!
	Shut up, slay!
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Of course, this being the best podcast in the universe, we try to expose the many ways in which the mainstream, even our national treasures, seem to be compromised by their model of advertising.
	And make no mistake, when someone says the program is underwritten by Chuck E. Cheese, it's just another form of advertising.
	The only thing they're not allowed to do is provide a call to action.
	But it's still advertising, and it's sold as advertising.
	And the wheels are coming off, although you won't hear a lot about it, but it was very interesting to see NPR, National Treasure No.
	1, blowing the whistle on PBS, our public broadcast system.
	Which, as you may have noticed, also has commercials every 15 minutes.
	They actually interrupt shows sometimes.
	Yeah, they do.
	Commercials are the beginning and the end, but now they're in the middle.
	What we know is that when you have someone spending a lot of money on sponsorship, they just might have some control.
	And of course, what you'll always hear from the public broadcasters is...
	No!
	That doesn't work that way!
	No!
	So let's have a listen to this little story as collected on NPR about PBS and our favorites, big sponsors of the PBS... Koch Brothers!
	Koch Brothers!
	The issue of money came into play for you and this film.
	It was to be backed by a group that makes documentaries very often for public television.
	David Koch turned out to be affiliated with some of those public television groups and your money ended up being pulled.
	What happened there?
	Well, we didn't know when we got greenlit by this public television entity that David Coe is a major donor to PBS, and he's also on the board of trustees both of WGBH in Boston and of WNET in New York, our flagship stations for the public broadcast network.
	And so when they – our funders, the Independent Television Service, saw that we – We're making this film.
	They supported it.
	They commissioned it.
	They gave us $150,000 in funding and a broadcast slot.
	By the way, $150,000 for a documentary?
	Nice.
	But then they pulled all that when they saw that we decided to name the film Citizen Coke.
	And we wouldn't change the name.
	Of course.
	What do you expect?
	This is not a good story, by the way.
	This has been floating around for a little bit.
	Oh, I hadn't heard it.
	They're being reprised.
	They're reprising it because they're after the Koch brothers.
	Of course.
	Koch brothers!
	Okay, let's say, okay, Adam, I'm a big shot donor.
	Yes, Charles Dvorak.
	Big shot donor.
	And so I can bestow upon you $150,000 so you can finish your documentary.
	Yeah.
	Yes, thank you very much for that, Charles.
	That's lovely.
	I'm going to call my documentary JCD Le Douche Bug.
	What?
	You're done!
	Oak Brothers!
	What did they expect?
	But it's great.
	It's great.
	She brings it in a little...
	She doesn't actually say that the Koch brothers pulled it.
	Oh, no.
	It was just coincidence.
	The content related to the Kochs.
	Oh, it's the Kochs.
	It was really deeply troubling, especially when we connected the dots and we realized that they were trying to protect, essentially they were trying to protect the high dollar donors to public television.
	This group by PBS said it was about editorial differences.
	Well, that's just not true.
	They didn't tell us that.
	What they told us is that the title of the film would render it unbroadcastable, given the environment.
	What does that mean?
	There's a lot of interest in the Koch brothers.
	Well, what Jane Mayer found out, because she did some investigating for The New Yorker, and what she found out was that the head of WNET in New York was expecting, was anticipating a seven-figure...
	Stop, stop, stop, stop.
	Back it up a little bit.
	But at the beginning of this, I noticed this.
	They went out of their way not to mention, well, we can't really say which.
	They made a big deal out of not mentioning the specific station that it was going through.
	Yeah.
	Now they drop it.
	WNET. For the New Yorker.
	And what she found out was that the head of WNET in New York was expecting, was anticipating a seven-figure donation from David Koch at that time that we had changed the title of our film.
	And that the head of the station in New York called this independent funding agency and threatened them and threatened to pull out of this documentary series Independent Lens if they continued to blindside him.
	You know, he didn't want to anger this trustee and major donor.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	I wouldn't either.
	If I'm in that business and I'm getting seven figures from the Koch brothers, and that's not on a forever basis.
	That's every year, year after year, and you're going to slam the guy, and I'm going to broadcast that?
	I'm not broadcasting it.
	I'm not an idiot.
	Do these people making these documentaries, are they that dumb?
	No.
	Well, I doubt that this was set up specifically to make the Koch brothers look stupid, as is often done by these jabronis, but it does just prove...
	Well, wait, but before you go on that, let me just...
	a quick thought.
	I believe amongst the community of public broadcasting folks, everybody knows the Koch brothers are huge donors to public broadcasting.
	And if you're not aware of this, this is my kind of thought on this.
	If you're not aware of that, what are you doing insofar?
	I don't trust your documentary.
	You're obviously a moron.
	So this documentary's got to be slanted if you don't know these basic facts.
	Because you don't know what the hell's going on, apparently.
	So by the same token, we could presume, and this is the only point I'll make about it, that if the Monsanto Corporation provides a grant every year, year in, year out, while they're waiting for the next grant, maybe they won't do a whole piece on Monsanto.
	Monsanto!
	That would be my guess.
	Or the Boeing Corporation.
	Or Archer Daniel Midlands.
	Or the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation.
	Or the Warren Buffett thing.
	Right.
	Yeah, no, you're not going to do anything on any of those things.
	And that list is bigger and bigger.
	It's almost like an extortion racket.
	You know, if you're not on our list here, you know, we might be doing this.
	We've got nothing else to work on because all these other guys are all in with us.
	You're right.
	I noticed you're not on the list this month.
	Yeah, I think maybe we might do a little work on that.
	Yeah, it sounds like an extortion racket.
	That's the problem with all these commercial operations.
	Yep.
	Which is the beauty of our model.
	Now, of course, we're not getting any seven-figure donations, but we're getting by.
	We're getting by.
	And I think it's a...
	Hey, every single day I wake up, John, I don't know about you, but I wake up and I'm like, I'm almost 50.
	I get to work from home.
	I work a lot, but I get to do what the people ask me to do.
	I'm very happy.
	Yeah, you're not beholding.
	No.
	That's the part.
	What was it?
	Well, you've been in commercial broadcasting.
	I mean, I've been in and out of it, but I've always been a writer.
	But at the same time, when you're a writer, you also have these obligations, even though nobody talks about it.
	But you don't write certain things that it's going to offend the hell out of somebody.
	Ever.
	Ever.
	But when you're not beholding to advertising, that's why people really have to understand why it's important.
	Maybe it's time to talk about my Michael Jackson story.
	We haven't done that in a while.
	Yeah, I think there's a lot of new listeners that don't know about this.
	Okay.
	And by the way, I'd like to report that today, now we know that thanks, of course, in no small part to Justin Timberlake, who was also picking off the corpse, that Michael Jackson, who reportedly, and I always said this was bullcrap, was a half billion dollars in debt before he was killed.
	Make no mistake, he was killed.
	His doctor was convicted of involuntary manslaughter, so he was killed.
	Fact.
	Fact.
	Fact pattern.
	But I'm pretty sure that there were a lot more people involved and he was worth more dead than alive.
	And lo and behold, looks like there's about a billion and a half being made on his new work.
	His back catalog.
	And there's no annoying artist in the middle.
	We got Justin Timberlake to do it with a hologram.
	It's fantastic.
	Justin will do anything.
	He's a good boy, Justin.
	He knows how to play ball.
	He knows how to play the game.
	I was sad kind of when I saw this Justin Timberlake.
	I like Justin Timberlake.
	I don't like him anymore.
	He's off the list.
	He's voted off the island.
	So when I was at MTV and we would...
	None of this was...
	Rarely was anything live.
	We would tape segments, and on Thursday we would tape for the weekend.
	That would be called a 48.
	So we'd tape our segments, which is essentially the lead-ins, the intros and the outros of the videos without the videos, and that would be put together later by the tape jockeys up on Long Island.
	They'd literally start a U-matic with my segment and then start the second U-matic with the video.
	And this was the, we had made a deal.
	This is how it went.
	Made a deal.
	We would give Michael Jackson the planetary, we would receive the planetary premiere of, I can't remember which video it was.
	And this became competitive because we had not purchased BET at the time.
	And BET, you know, they would, they would, you know, whoever could dedicate more airtime.
	You know, it's a commercial deal.
	Commercial deals.
	And then we threw in like a video music award appearance, all this stuff.
	And so it was Michael Jackson weekend for the planetary premiere of whatever video.
	And, you know, so you work a full day from 9 in the morning till, you know, 5 at night.
	And you're doing segments throughout the day.
	There's a lot of coordination.
	There's changes.
	I mean, yeah, my life was really hard being a VJ. But it was, you know, actual work.
	And then Friday, we would typically only do a 24, which would be for Monday's air.
	And Thursday evening, we all got a call, oh my god, you have to come back early.
	We've got to do three days worth of programming on Friday.
	So not just the 48, we've got to do the Monday as well.
	We've got to redo the whole weekend.
	Because contractually, we had promised every single time we said Michael Jackson to follow it by the King of Pop.
	And of course, that had not made it down to the studio, so we had to go back and re-tape every single segment saying, and now it's time for the planetary premiere of Michael Jackson, the King of Pop, with his new video.
	And that's how it works.
	That's how he completely controlled.
	The King of Pop.
	The King of Pop.
	That's cute.
	Let's get this out of the way.
	What was with the hair that you had there?
	Where did that idea come from?
	My ex-wife.
	Oh, okay.
	And it made me famous.
	Yeah, the hair...
	You see, because...
	Luckily, you had the kind of hair that could do what that hair did.
	Well, when you have enough Aquanet...
	Which is what we had in the day.
	Anybody could make that hair.
	You just have to grow it long enough, blow dry it, and tease it.
	Did you go into makeup every day in the morning?
	My ex-wife would do that every single morning before I left the house.
	I was incapable of doing my hair myself.
	It made me a slave to her and to the hair.
	I'm not kidding.
	I was afraid to go anywhere without her because I couldn't do my hair.
	This is no joke, by the way.
	That's funny.
	That's sad is what it is.
	It's sad.
	However, according to the Merv Griffin theory of celebrities, people with big heads are successful on television.
	And he would know.
	Look at the people he's hired.
	And look at people who are successful on television.
	If they've got a big head, and that usually goes with a small body, then you are going to be successful.
	Al Sharpton.
	There you go.
	It's like a head on a dwarf.
	So I have a normal size, nice size head, but the hair made my whole head aura look big and therefore successful.
	Well, it was definitely a sight, like, whoa.
	Thanks.
	You know what?
	I still have my hair.
	Yeah, I know you do.
	I think that you should be happy.
	Yes, every day.
	There's a lot of bald guys out there.
	Yeah, and those are the ones that usually bitch about my hair.
	How are you doing?
	My hair's still here.
	It's thinning a little bit on the top.
	My hair's always, no, but my hair's always been thin.
	It's like, I got baby fine hair.
	Yeah, well, you should pray to the hair gods every day and go, oh, thank you.
	Apparently, once you get to be 55, Letterman talked about this because he has really weird hair.
	He says once you get to be 55, according to his hair expert, that's the hair you're going to have.
	The rest of your life, you don't lose it.
	Maybe it gets a little crappier looking because you don't comb it anymore.
	You don't care, but it's about it.
	You're stuck, so you have it.
	You get bald before then.
	Where were we?
	Onward to Europe.
	No, no, no.
	What?
	Here's the problem.
	Luckily, there's two of us.
	You began to segue with the Michael Jackson on CNN thing.
	You were going to talk about that, then you got sidetracked, and I took your way off the rails with the hair story.
	You were going to talk about how you, because we're talking about, or discussing, corruption in the media.
	You went on CNN. Yeah, and then I told...
	This clip, you've got to play the clip.
	And set it up.
	What?
	No!
	Oh, you mean the...
	No, I'm not gonna play that clip.
	Yeah, that's what I thought the whole segment was about.
	Do you want me to play that clip?
	No!
	No, the segment was corruption of the media where I had to go back and re-tape everything.
	You want me to play the thing?
	Michael Jackson and that clip?
	No, that clip sucks because it's really long and we're stuck.
	No, that clip is no good.
	Okay, by popular demand, anyone who donates $50 in the next show.
	But I'll have to cut it down.
	No, no, no, no.
	Onward to Europe now, as I was saying.
	Okay.
	Okay, so we have a real problem here about who...
	Now, as you know, we have our Haiku Herman, currently the president there of the United States of Europe.
	I'm paraphrasing his job.
	And we need a new one.
	And this, of course, the Europeans, the citizens don't get to vote on their president.
	Oh no!
	No, it's chosen by some secret ballot, which they think is actually good.
	They think the right way to do it is secretly.
	Strangely enough.
	Okay.
	Now we know Jean-Claude Juncker was a frontrunner.
	Juncker.
	Juncker was a frontrunner.
	It doesn't look like he is the...
	Well, the problem that cropped up is the UK doesn't want him.
	They do not want this banker, this federalist guy...
	Telling them what to do and being in charge of anything, if that position holds any power.
	And then Christine Lagarde cropped up as a likely candidate.
	This was propagated...
	Another banker.
	Well, yes, a lawyer, really, more than banker, but she's currently the head of the IMF. And she did something that was unexpected.
	Managing director of the International Monetary Fund, Christine Lagarde, has ruled herself out as a potential candidate for the job of European Commission President...
	She wants to finish her term in charge of the IMF. I'm not a candidate, and the reason I'm not a candidate is that I have a job, and which I intend to complete.
	A job.
	As my young son would have said, Mom, when you start something, you've got to finish the job.
	Jean-Claude Juncker is considered the front runner, but Britain's David Cameron has made it clear he opposes him.
	The leaders of Sweden, Hungary and Italy have also voiced doubts.
	Some analysts even expect Juncker to pull out of the race after support from Germany's Angela Merkel cooled.
	European leaders have given themselves until late June to reach a deal on the top position.
	Okay.
	Now, of course, Christine has no time for this because she is busy raping grease anally.
	They just put the Athens Riviera into the privatization agency.
	This is what they did with East Berlin when that whole thing came down, when the wall came down.
	So you have this Greek privatization agency which the IMF and the European Central Bank and the European Commission, the Troika as it's known, have forced Greece to do things like this, like taking assets including the Attica Coastline, which goes from...
	It's like from the east to the west.
	It's like the whole coastline has been transferred to the Hellenic Republic Asset Development Fund.
	Hey, hey.
	Hey, you know, those Greeks are their own problem.
	All right.
	Now, here's what you can buy.
	176 acres of land, which lies between the sports complex Agios Kosmos...
	Which is opposite of the old Athens airport.
	20 acres of land in Glyphada.
	383 acres of land in the southern part there of Sun...
	Is it Sunyan, I think?
	What is the...
	Do you have prices or you just have...
	No, they haven't set the prices yet.
	I think it goes by...
	It's like a...
	I think it's a bidding process.
	There's also a ski resort.
	The Parnassus Mountains.
	Usually if they're going to dump a bunch of property, like not just a little, but a lot all at once and doing over bids, you can get some deals.
	But essentially it's the beach.
	If you've ever been to the beach.
	It's like the California coast.
	It's just amazing.
	Completely raping them.
	Of course, this isn't even discussed in Europe anymore.
	People are so...
	We get reports, our friends in the Netherlands, people are not happy.
	What are they going to do about it?
	And the health insurance in the Netherlands, they basically went from a complete single-payer system to essentially a version of Obamacare.
	And now they've made changes once again, starting in 2016.
	Health insurance will no longer have to pay towards the cost of treatment at hospitals and providers, which they don't have a contract with.
	No, HMO model.
	Yeah, HMO model.
	So that's great.
	But I did want to just...
	It's the worst.
	Of course not.
	It's horrible.
	And the Netherlands had a great system.
	No, actually, single-payer works if it's tightly controlled.
	But the people that don't like it are the drug companies.
	Well, and the insurance companies.
	Well, the insurance companies are cut out of the deal.
	Yeah, they hate it, too.
	So anyway, we need to choose a president of Europe, and I'm thinking I have some ideas for this.
	Oh, now this is where you're good.
	You nailed the Pope.
	Out of the blue.
	People haven't listened to the show a long time.
	He actually nailed the Pope.
	By name.
	Chosen by name out of the blue months before.
	You do know I'm a time traveler.
	Yeah, you're from the future.
	And you just couch it in these entertaining ways.
	Yes, that's right.
	I just bumble around just to throw you off track.
	Now, historically speaking, we know that the president of Europe has to be a moron.
	Case in point.
	Okay, exactly.
	That's true.
	I agree with that.
	And I think they did very well with Haiku Herman.
	Just a guy who can just be silly.
	You have to look silly.
	All that's missing is a red clown nose and a bow tie that spins.
	The bow tie that spins would be the way to do it.
	So Christine Lagarde, there's no way she is right for that job because she's sharp.
	Sharp has attacked that woman.
	Too smart.
	Way overqualified for the job of moron head of state.
	But I think it needs to be a woman.
	Ah!
	And remember, I'm from the future, so I'm...
	I think you're right.
	No, I think that you're on the right track with your thought process.
	And I'm going to tell you who my number one candidate is.
	Okay.
	Hella Thorning-Schmidt.
	Hell, no, she's been, we've talked about her before.
	Prime Minister of Denmark, the selfie girl of Obama.
	The selfie, no, it's enough.
	Uh-huh, uh-huh.
	I have a number two candidate, but she's my number one.
	I think even though she's older, she's an attractive woman.
	She's dumb.
	We know she's dumb.
	Yeah, she could be dumb.
	Because she was walking up to Sarah Jessica Parker like, Hey, I run this country.
	Can I do a selfie with you?
	She's dumb.
	Okay, she's dumb.
	She qualifies there.
	We could put a spin bow tie on her.
	That's what I'm thinking.
	Well, then there's Dalia Grybowskite, the president of Lithuania.
	Well, that's interesting.
	But she looks a little too stern, and I think she might have her shit together.
	So I'm a little worried about her.
	I think Hela is perfect because she's a known figure.
	She's cute.
	I think that's a plus.
	She's not horrible looking.
	She speaks her languages.
	I don't know if she speaks French, which would be kind of a prerequisite, but she would be a perfect puppet.
	Remember, I'm from the future now, John.
	What do you think of Dahlia?
	I can't find her.
	How do you spell her last name?
	Golf, Romeo, Yankee, Bravo, Alpha, Uniform, Sierra, Kilo, Alpha, India, Tango, Echo.
	I got G-R-Y B-A-U S-K-I-A-A-I-T-E Bauskite.
	Gribauskite.
	Oh, there she is.
	Yeah, yeah.
	She looks stern.
	I would be in on this one.
	You think her?
	She just has that look.
	I don't think she looks stern.
	She has a stern look, but most of the time she just looks kind of like a little bit of Down syndrome combined with a nice haircut.
	Just a little bit.
	I'm not saying anything.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, yeah.
	You think her?
	Well, I wouldn't like to see her a lot.
	I think Hela would be great.
	Hela would be at least attractive.
	But she would do funny things.
	It would be great for the show.
	Maybe.
	Especially if she's into selfies.
	Yeah.
	Oh, man.
	Could you imagine?
	It would be so great for the show.
	Dahlia, here's the problem.
	Okay, I think you're right.
	And her husband is a super banker, I think.
	Oh, that's perfect.
	She was in Niagara in 2009.
	This is Dahlia.
	She was vice president of foreign affairs, minister of finance, and also European commissioner for financial programming.
	No, she's way too smart.
	We can't have her.
	From 2004.
	She also is referred to as the Iron Lady or the Steel Magnolia.
	We can't have that.
	We need a dipshit.
	We've already got a Merkel.
	We don't need another one of those.
	Let me take a look at Hela Thorning-Schmidt.
	I think her husband is a super banker.
	Let me see.
	Hold on.
	Hela Thorning-Schmidt.
	Wikipedia.
	And, you know, she's only marginally cute.
	I mean, you know, in a milfy kind of way.
	Let's see.
	Danish politician.
	Where's her husband?
	Where's her husband?
	He's a social democrat.
	That's good.
	That's the right thing going on there.
	Oh!
	Fluent English and French.
	Hello!
	Fluent French.
	And English.
	That'll do it.
	That will do it.
	Personal life.
	Married to Stephen Kinnock.
	Oh!
	Daughter-in-law to Neil Koenig.
	She's...
	Former leader of the Labor Party.
	Hello!
	She's perfect.
	She's royalty.
	Oh, yeah.
	No, she's good.
	She's perfect.
	I'm telling you.
	Alright, well, I mean, would she take the job?
	That's another thing.
	Oh, in a heartbeat?
	Huh!
	Are you kidding me?
	So, in other words, she's all in on the EU experiment.
	Oh, yeah.
	And her husband, they don't even live together, which is, I'm not condemning it, but it's just out of interest.
	Well, she did serve as the member of the European Parliament from Denmark from 1999 to 2004.
	She's part of the group.
	She knows the system.
	Danish Parliament in 2005.
	She elected to replace as leader of the Social Democrats, blah, blah, blah.
	Oh, yeah, yeah.
	Okay, well that's why we're pushing her now.
	I think, you know what, she's uniquely qualified to run the EU. Yes.
	All she needs is the spinning bow tie.
	The spinning bow tie would be the kicker.
	Just remember, I'm from the future.
	Okay, we'll go with this call.
	Although, you know, we never heard of this other character, the guy running it now, the Haiku Herman.
	I mean, it's possible some obscure person we've never heard of will get this position, which has been happening in the past.
	Yeah, but hold on.
	This whole structure is new.
	I mean, wasn't he the first guy?
	Wouldn't this be the second guy?
	Maybe.
	I mean, who was before him?
	I've seen the structure.
	I can't.
	Because they have councils and this and the council of that.
	It doesn't matter.
	It's just the...
	All right.
	We'll see.
	That's our European news for the day.
	Well, not entirely.
	Uh-oh.
	Well, there's this one thing I know you're not on my side of the fence on this.
	This is the SDR fence.
	Oh, yeah, you're in the SDR thing.
	Look, someone's got to follow this stuff, and there is the theory out there that there is a global cabal Working on removing the petrodollar and replacing it with the SDR. And actually it was Christine Lagarde who said just the other day, I don't have a clip of it, she said, well, you know, the way things are going, the headquarters of the IMF might have to be in Beijing.
	It's just kind of a slam for her to say that, but okay.
	And that is obviously because the BRICs are getting antsy with the IMF 2010 reforms not being ratified by the United States, so they're pushing to do their own system, whatever.
	But following the money, and this is from Reuters, As you know, the quantitative easing is being tapered in the United States, which of course will affect the market and our economy, and I guess inflation rate or something, we'll have to see.
	But what's been happening to treasuries is very interesting.
	It turns out there's this outfit in Belgium, It's called Euroclear.
	And Euroclear is a clearinghouse.
	But it is buying up...
	Let's see.
	U.S. Treasuries...
	They just bought up another $40.2 billion over the past five months.
	Belgium, because it's in Belgium.
	Belgium's net...
	Ownership of United States Treasuries has increased to $201.1 billion.
	This is a country that only has a GDP of 450.
	So the question is, who is Euroclear and who's behind them?
	We don't know.
	They're a clearinghouse.
	So it's probably the U.S. that is behind it buying our own debt.
	But this is debt that is being sold off by Russia, by the Chinese, by the Japanese, and being purchased by Belgium, of all places.
	Well, EuroClear is a Belgian-based operation.
	Yes.
	Okay.
	But they are just, in fact, they used to be, if you go back to the, I think, 90s, Euroclear was a J.P. Morgan bank or outfit.
	Well, it was founded by J.P. Morgan in 1968.
	There you go.
	So it's not new.
	Right.
	But they've been buying up a lot of U.S. Treasuries.
	Now let's keep that interest rate way down.
	It's been working.
	You know, people always moan and groan about all this, you know, printing money, quote-unquote, when it's, you know, kind of...
	It's printing virtual money, since most of this is not, like, cash being printed.
	And it is really, I think, it's one of the great...
	No disagreement there.
	That has kept us from a Great Depression.
	Right, but it can't go on.
	It's going to cave in on it.
	It seems like it can't go on.
	No, it won't, but it'll be very similar to what happened in 1857.
	And what happened in 1857?
	The first official true American Depression.
	And how bad was that?
	Well, it only lasted a couple of years.
	I mean, the Great Depression, which was during the Roosevelt administration, because a lot of it was mishandled, lasted probably close to a decade.
	Most people believe, you know, kind of a decade since the initial crash of 29.
	The Big Depression that happened in 1857, which triggered a number of things, the main thing I believe it triggered was books about it.
	LAUGHTER There were a bunch of books.
	This happened in the 70s.
	There was all kinds of books that came out.
	Oh, we're going to all die.
	And there's mostly naysaying books trying to analyze what happened.
	In 1857, when the economy collapsed, it was so bad.
	It was considered the worst depression we've ever had.
	And I think it lasted about two, three years max until about 1860.
	Things changed because we had the war.
	Yeah.
	But it generated all these books, and most of these books are still around.
	They've been scanned.
	Some of them are still available, and you can read through them, and they have all this analysis of why this happened.
	And my favorite analysis, because I've read a lot of these books, my favorite analysis, because they had a laundry list of why did this happen, was Too Much Gold.
	Really?
	Yeah, and that is the equivalent, to me at least, of the way we're printing money is this equivalent of gold because back then there was a gold rush from 1849 on and there was something like $3 trillion or $15 trillion of today's money pumped into the economy.
	People walking down the stream and essentially finding money is this equivalent and putting it into circulation, which is the same to me as printing money.
	And it was too much of it.
	There was just too much gold in the system and it just collapsed the economy.
	That's one of the theses.
	You know what you should do?
	I don't want to hear it.
	I'm not listening.
	You should write a book about the subject.
	All right.
	All right.
	Enough of that.
	Lots of links in the show notes under the heading SDR if you're inclined.
	I don't have...
	I mean, I'm just pointing the stuff out.
	I don't really have any proof of anything.
	No, we'll see.
	I mean, there's proofs in the pudding, as it were.
	You know what did happen last night?
	Friday night.
	Was it Friday?
	I think so.
	Yeah, Miss Mickey and I sat down to watch some Orange is the New Black.
	You know, before you go on, Mimi, coincidentally, decided to start watching Orange is the New Black.
	And I'm going to tell you this in advance, so you don't dig yourself into a horrible pit.
	I said to her, why are you going to watch that?
	I've tried to watch it.
	It sucks.
	And she said, no.
	She says, men won't like it because it's a total chick...
	And she mentioned that there's a lot of these chick-oriented shows, like Girls is one of them, she claims, written by women, produced by women, starring women for women.
	Uh-huh.
	Okay, that's the end.
	I just wanted to put that out there.
	Uh, well...
	Did you enjoy it?
	Well, as you know, John, I am not just a man.
	Cause I'm a heterosexual, heterosexual man.
	Somebody give me an appletini.
	Now I saw the first series, enjoyed it very much, particularly for the realistic portrayal of hot lesbian sex by cute chicks.
	If you have not, tune in around episode 4 of season 1, that's some better than Tumblr.
	And I know me some Tumblr.
	Now, we saw two episodes, but for the first time, interestingly enough, and we have Comcast...
	No, we have Time Warner here, I'm sorry.
	Same thing.
	Not yet.
	It will be.
	Well, no, and not when it comes to the peering arrangements.
	We had...
	It was very interesting how this worked.
	Very interesting.
	I believe it to be a total farce, bullcrap, Propaganda move on Netflix's part.
	We would start it up, and at 25%, and we use a Roku, at 25%, it would hang, loading, it would hang, and then it would dump out to a screen saying, we cannot show you this particular piece of content right now, please try again later, or play something else.
	And then I'd select something else who would play just fine.
	Oh!
	That is bullcrap!
	Thank you very much.
	And who's the guys behind the equal bits?
	It should be Netflix.
	Well, so this is Netflix throwing this up.
	Yeah.
	And now, I don't have Verizon.
	As I said, we have Time Warner.
	But Verizon was getting a different message.
	And I just want...
	You probably saw this.
	I just wanted to play this for a second.
	This is from Bloomberg.
	Not just for the story, but also for an interesting new phrase.
	...internet service provider for slowed streaming or buffering, demanding evidence substantiating Netflix's assertions within five days.
	Now, Verizon says there's no basis to solely blame it for its playback issues, but that there's a range of factors, and Netflix relies on, quote, a panoply of content distribution and other middleman networks to reach its customers, trying to lower its cost as much as possible.
	The cost-quality trade-off is one Netflix has chosen.
	Netflix responding, quote, this is about consumers not getting what they paid for from their broadband provider.
	We're trying to provide more transparency, just like we did with the ISP Speed Index, and Verizon is trying to shut down that discussion.
	Now, we don't need to have the entire conversation again about packet inequality, but I did want to point out I like the word panoply.
	panoply panoply panoply okay Do you know what this word means?
	You know, I used to.
	Panoply, it means an impressive amount of, which is, I thought was kind of cool.
	A splendid or striking array.
	A panoply of colorful flag.
	Panoply, it's a good word.
	Yeah.
	A panoply of paparazzi.
	Nobody knows what it means, but it's a good sounding word.
	It sounds very good.
	And it has a nice definition.
	Now, I wanted to point out one angle of this conversation that is not brought up enough, if at all.
	Are you on Twit today?
	No.
	Oh, good.
	Then I can go out for a walk with Mickey.
	Okay.
	So...
	Part of the problem...
	I think we have discussed it briefly, but it's not brought up enough, is streaming.
	Why does this have to be streaming?
	In fact, podcasting, the idea I had that Dave Weiner incorporated into the enclosure of RSS was download, make available.
	Yeah, download and play.
	Yes.
	Download in the background so you don't even know it and then play.
	This could, and caching, and there's a million ways this could be fixed, but because of the licensing, That is why it has to be streamed, you see.
	It can't be stored on an ISP's internal servers.
	It all has to be streamed.
	If anything, I would say Netflix is in violation of good network etiquette by constantly forcing end users to start up a new stream.
	That is purely because of their licensing model.
	There's no reason, technically, that it has to work this way.
	And just imagine.
	If you said, hey, you know what?
	It's coming out.
	The orange is the new black.
	Just download the whole series to my box the minute it comes out, or even do that in the background.
	Maybe I can't play it until Friday night at midnight, whatever it is.
	That would solve everything.
	But that's not how the Hollywood model works.
	And this is a very...
	And not an often discussed issue.
	No, it's never discussed.
	I just wanted to throw that out there.
	I agree with you, too.
	Let me ask you this, to go even further.
	Since Netflix produced...
	Which they have the license to themselves.
	They can do anything they want.
	So they could do a download and play.
	Like, okay, you get a Netflix subscription, you can download and play.
	In other words, just download the whole Orange is the New Black and play it at your leisure.
	Because it's not as though they're running commercials in it or anything else.
	You might as well have a copy.
	A good point.
	And I believe that they would have the right...
	Well, I don't know their entire ownership structure of House of Cards or Orange is the New Black or any of those series.
	But anyway, it's a real problem that is not discussed and it's just...
	It's sad.
	The whole thing is just sad.
	It's sad that that's...
	I'll pay to watch Orange is the New Black on my cable box.
	I just want to see it.
	I don't need it streaming from Netflix.
	It's good.
	I like it.
	I want to see it.
	But if they're going to do this bullcrap and start cutting it off at 25% while everything else works fine, you're full of shit, Netflix.
	No, it has to be full of crap, because they can stream anything they want, any way they want, and you'd think they'd give their own content higher priority.
	It wouldn't be a big deal to do that.
	It wouldn't be a problem.
	They could do whatever they want.
	But they've decided to choke off the one thing that is probably pretty popular, along with the House of Cards, when it first comes out, it's very popular, to make a point so they can get the message across that they don't want to be...
	And by the way, it's only going to get worse.
	Now, I'm very saddened by this, that Mozilla...
	Maybe that's why they had to get rid of the gay hater.
	Mozilla is now incorporating DRM streaming media crap into their browser.
	You know anything about this?
	No, I don't know anything about this.
	Yeah, it's part of some, I'm sure some great standard, HTML streaming DRM crap.
	And so, you know, they're going to jump onto the DRM bandwagon so you can then stream Netflix to your browser.
	The streaming thing is dumb.
	It's dumb.
	You know, it's just dumb.
	I've never understood this streaming.
	I understand for sports events, there's a whole bunch of reasons for it.
	And I'm on the fence in a way because we stream our show live and I do like having the live audience, although they're on a delay that's a little too long, so it doesn't even make sense when they say something.
	Right.
	Five minutes later.
	Yeah.
	That's not right!
	Adam doesn't read the chat room!
	No, I'm on three topics down the road.
	So, you know, of course, as a program maker, I appreciate that.
	But, you know, the evening news is not, you know, you don't need to have Brian Williams sitting there live.
	You know, he could pre-tape everything.
	All the segments are pre-taped.
	You know, it's not like, you know, it's just not live.
	You know, local news, yeah.
	You know, someone on the spot.
	And you know what?
	Not even that.
	Yeah, I'm here where the accident occurred five hours ago.
	I'm on the bridge with flashing lights.
	You're being fooled into thinking it's important.
	But then, particularly for this content, it does not have to be streamed.
	It just makes no sense.
	Technically makes no sense.
	In fact, quite the opposite.
	That would solve a lot of problems.
	A lot.
	Well, but it's counter trend to not stream because everything, as things move to the cloud and we get all the stuff off of our desk and all we have is a terminal.
	Not me, brother.
	And you move it all up to the cloud, everything has to be streamed because everything works off the cloud.
	Right.
	And it's like, well, me neither.
	I've got 8 terabytes of storage here that costs next to nothing.
	Why would I want to move it someplace where it's going to be a bandwidth issue?
	I mean, even if I had everything on the cloud, what's my connection to the cloud compared to my gigabit Ethernet in the home with a gigabit Ethernet or USB 3 connectivity?
	It's ridiculous that I would choose the sluggish cloud that I mean, what's the point of that?
	Why is it somebody trying to trick me into using the sluggish cloud?
	I don't know, man.
	It's a trick, though, that's for sure.
	The sluggish cloud.
	Yeah, sluggish.
	For those of you who will be watching Twit, I guarantee you this will be a topic of the so-called internet troll...
	That is poised to perhaps receive up to just shy of 1% of all iPhone and iPad sales.
	Who's this?
	This is actually a very interesting company.
	Let me see.
	Where is this?
	I have it here.
	The name...
	This has been a big lawsuit that's been going on.
	Vernet X. V-I-R-N-E-T-X. iPhones, iPads, and Macs infringe on actually their VPN patents.
	And it's an interesting case for two reasons.
	From a legal standpoint, interesting because Apple kind of overstepped their boundary and their bounds.
	in trying to get rid of this.
	And this company is very, this Vernet X, their lawyers, I guess, are pretty smart.
	And they figured out a way to show at least one district judge that Apple was behind this other company trying to initiate an IPR, which is a patent review in the patent process.
	And then Apple basically got busted on it.
	But what's interesting about this, and the reason why I bring it up, this Vernet X owns the patents from a company that you might have heard of called Science Applications International Corporation, SAIC.
	Are you familiar with this outfit?
	I know SAIC, yes.
	SAIC, staffed and managed historically by spooks.
	Right.
	Total spook operation, CIA. And I'm thinking...
	That there will be a miraculous settlement between Apple and Vernet X, formerly known as SAIC, and we'll never really find out the terms, but I'm thinking this is where Apple gets compromised with backdoors.
	Where the compromise really takes place.
	Because 1% of Apple's revenue of their hardware or whatever it is they're selling, that's a lot of money.
	And I think Tim Cook will buckle.
	Oh, yeah.
	Fuck it.
	Have Dr.
	Dre do the negotiations.
	That whole thing with Dr.
	Dre reminds me so much of the House of Lies with the Don Cheadle series, which I think people should watch.
	It's quite entertaining.
	It's a consulting firm.
	Yeah, it's really a good series.
	It has nice pacing.
	It's nice.
	While we're on predictions, just want you to know, Twitter, a publicly listed company, of course, is in big trouble because, I don't know, they don't know how to make money, something like that.
	Their stock price on close Friday?
	$33.33!
	Yeah.
	I think there's some information there you might want to take advantage of.
	Yeah, but is it the shorted or longed?
	It's got to be the shorted.
	I'm going to show my support by donating to No Agenda.
	Imagine all the people who could do that.
	Oh yeah, that'd be fab.
	Regardless of how you win on that news, when you win, think of us.
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	That's interesting.
	My brother hit me in the mouth a few years ago, but being a poor Native American, we have followed JCD since Silicon Spin.
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	Wow.
	Haiti, there's a lot going on with elections, in case you hadn't noticed.
	We now have, in Egypt, of course, we have CeCe now being elected, the head honcho.
	He is perfect for the job.
	IMF, Christine Lagarde has already personally told him, hey, welcome!
	We'll hook you up with whatever you need.
	And the investment community is very happy with Sisi being in there in Egypt.
	We have, of course, Assad, who has been re-elected.
	Who else do we have?
	We have some shenanigans going on in Venezuela.
	And we have problems in Haiti.
	Now, of course, Haiti, as we know, was...
	That is so weird that there would be problems in Haiti.
	You'd expect that, after all the billions of dollars that went into rebuilding the place, Yeah, and also the people that punched in 10 on their phone or whatever.
	Yeah, and the whole show, the George Clooney, the telethon.
	Every country had a telethon.
	Billions of dollars.
	I think it was 8 or 10 billion dollars that all run through, let's see, President Bush's non-profit and the Clinton Global Initiative and...
	We just need cash.
	I know a lot of people want to send blankets or water.
	Just send your cash.
	And of course then we had the first guy who wanted to become president.
	His head got too big for him.
	What was his name again?
	The guy who was on the jet hanging out and they got him out of the way before they got sweet Mickey Martelli in?
	Yeah, the other guy.
	The other musician.
	But, you know, ultimately, the population of Haiti, I think they are, to date, the only country that has gotten out of slavery.
	They were enslaved to France.
	And they said, you know what, France, why don't you stick it?
	We'll pay back the money, which, of course, they never really did.
	So you gotta be careful.
	These Haitians, they can get riled up.
	Haitians have taken to the streets of Port-au-Prince calling for the resignation of President Michel Martelly in fresh elections amid growing political anger in the Caribbean nation.
	An estimated 5,000 people marched through the center of the capital to protest against what they claim is a lack of action by authorities to alleviate hunger and tackle a cholera epidemic.
	Which the United Nations brought upon them.
	Despite starting off...
	And we should also mention the United Nations refuses, even though it's a known fact they brought it in, to take responsibility.
	Of course.
	Starting off peacefully, the protest quickly escalated, with riot police firing tear gas to disperse the crowd as protesters burned tires and blocked streets.
	Anti-government protests in Haiti have become increasingly common in recent months as discontent grows over perceived government corruption and a lack of change in the impoverished country since a catastrophic earthquake in 2010.
	President Martelly, who is midway through a six-year term, has accused his opponents of fomenting instability, discouraging foreign investments and blocking legislation that would help the country.
	Slay is revolting.
	This is crazy.
	Shoot them tear gas at them.
	Poor people.
	Hundreds of thousands still without homes.
	Money stolen.
	My assholes.
	Oh, but love that Clinton Hotel.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	We got that nice little, they're making baskets, they're weaving baskets there, right near the Clinton Hotel.
	This is definitely one of my pet peeves.
	I don't need to play the jingle, but...
	What was the jingle?
	Adam Curry's pet peeve.
	Oh, yeah.
	Yeah.
	No, it wasn't enough.
	You weren't...
	No.
	I don't think it was...
	You weren't...
	No, but this has been going on for years.
	You were riled up enough to...
	This has been going on for years, this.
	Well, I've got a little series of clips here that might be interesting.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	So I'm watching Charlie Rose interview.
	I'm doing a debriefing.
	Tell me about this sexuality.
	It's in your DNA. Uh-huh.
	And so I got a couple of clips.
	I want Charlie Rose and Carney and the percent.
	This is kind of an interesting clip.
	This is the percentage known.
	In other words, how smart is the White House staff, the press corps?
	Would you say reporters covering the White House every day whose business it is to understand and discover what's going on?
	What percentage of what's actually going on do you think they know or can know?
	I think the good ones.
	No, 15%, 20%.
	And because they're good, reasonably and carefully extrapolate a little beyond that.
	15%.
	Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait.
	This is Jay Carney, outgoing spokeshole of the White House, saying that in general, on average, the White House press corps have a clue about 15 or 20% of what's really going on?
	Yeah, that's what he said.
	And where's he going to get his next job?
	I think, I don't know.
	Maybe he's going to work for The Intercept or whatever.
	I have no idea.
	Hey, they published a new story, The Intercept.
	Oh, great.
	So it goes on, and then this was the most interesting one, because this actually refers to our show.
	And this is the revealing Kerry comment about coverage.
	I mean, if you look at the way news media cover Washington and politics, and especially the networks and TV, but everyone, more and more, everything is focused on the White House.
	They used to have reporters covering the agencies and subcommittees on Capitol Hill.
	It's all focused.
	But now it's just sort of, this is the locus of power.
	The locus of power?
	It's a locus.
	So in other words, what we do when we watch C-SPAN is way beyond what the media does nowadays.
	Of course, we've known this, but I've never heard anyone say it.
	They just cover the White House, whatever the White House is.
	So we go and listen to these obscure committee hearings and the rest of it.
	So I ran into the one.
	It's the one I was teasing on the last show.
	It's an environmental committee.
	Yeah.
	That was four people.
	It was a subcommittee of the big committee that is run by Boxer, which is essentially the global warming committee.
	Yes, I saw the Boxer one.
	Man, she's a dick.
	Yeah, she's a total dick.
	When she runs that committee, it's like, you got 10 seconds left.
	She's a horrible person.
	Well, the subcommittee, which consisted of the senator from Rhode Island, this guy Markey, the guy from, I think he's from Massachusetts, and then Weicker and Sessions, and they're the two Republicans.
	They brought on two experts.
	One of them talked and talked about...
	Wildfires.
	He was the wildfire expert, and the other one was a generalist, and he was more a climate science guy.
	The wildfire guy went on, and every time they asked him anything, he says, no, there's not global warming.
	We've known this before.
	We've heard these testimonies with the global warming.
	The guy says, the main problem that you've had is that people are moving into these areas, and so when a fire breaks out, all the resources have to protect these homes.
	Yeah, more stuff is destroyed because they're there.
	Right.
	By protecting the homeless, there's less resources to actually stop the fire.
	So that's one of the reasons there's so many of these fires.
	Meanwhile, because they're not listening, the two Democrats aren't listening to any of this.
	And then we had the Rhode Island senator who decides, and this is the Rhode Island senator clip, decides upon himself to go off the deep end with personal anecdotes, you know, to verify, you know, the kind of thing they've always criticized everybody else for.
	I appreciate that planting trees helps reduce carbon, but it hardly offsets the coal plant next door that's putting out tens of thousands of tons of carbon dioxide.
	The 50 worst carbon plants in the country put out more carbon than Korea.
	Big deal!
	I'm surprised.
	That's a story?
	And is it North and South, or just North, or just South, or is it just Korea?
	They put out more than Korea.
	Korea.
	Korea is the size of what?
	It's the size of Maine?
	Pretty industrialized country.
	And we are seeing these effects in New England.
	We are.
	Senator Sessions was pleased to bring up that there's actually additional rain falling in the Northeast.
	Not only is there additional rain falling in the Northeast, just as the climate projections expect, but it is falling in more powerful rain bursts.
	No.
	Hold on a second.
	You know, I thought the whole, first of carbon pollution, I'm surprised he didn't say carbon pollution, but now it's rain bursts, which are clearly, clearly climate change.
	Just as the climate experts predicted.
	Just as they predicted.
	And those more powerful rain bursts are causing repeated damaging flooding.
	We have had year after year of 100-year floods in Rhode Island.
	We've had one that hit the 500-year level in Cranston, Rhode Island, and it just keeps coming.
	Like Senator Merkley, we're in Ocean State.
	Okay, I have to say something about this.
	God, I wish my mom was alive.
	She would be peeing her pants right now.
	My mom grew up in Rhode Island.
	And she told me a lot about the tidal waves and about the water coming all the way up the basement, coming into the kitchen.
	This is not new.
	No.
	We're talking 60 years ago.
	Yes, you're an ocean state.
	Yes.
	Yes, this happens.
	Hello, there's an ocean there.
	And no one was talking about climate change back then?
	You know that this is no coincidence.
	You know that we had UNWED. UNWED? Yes, UNWED. What's UNWED? World Environment Day.
	Oh yeah, right.
	UNWED. And you know what the slogan is.
	Uh, get wed?
	No.
	Here is the blogger, the vlogger, I'm sorry, who won the United Nations competition for best video with the slogan of the UNWED, World Environment Day.
	You'll have to listen, but it gets repeated for the entire video.
	Raise your voice, not the sea level.
	Raise your voice, not the sea level.
	Alright, I can't stand it.
	Raise your voice, not the sea level.
	This is the meme, you see.
	And what is happening is you're...
	I love that one!
	Raise your voice, not the sea level.
	And of course, you get little islands that, you know, that...
	You get tectonic shifts in the plates and you get erosion.
	And what they're saying is, oh, we're drowning!
	We're drowning!
	The sea level is...
	We're drowning because the sea level is...
	Because the ice is melting!
	We're drowning!
	It's bullshit!
	Well, I'm on the bay, and I can see the horse track, and it has a parking lot.
	And I've been at this parking lot, and the parking lot is about three feet above sea level.
	Or bay level, which is sea level, because it's a part of the ocean.
	And I have never even seen that thing flooded even once.
	And you're an ocean state?
	We're an ocean state.
	Anyway, so the guy goes on and on, and this is the senator giving testimony, essentially, for Mark Lee, who is just a complete asshole.
	And this goes on, and every time one of the two guys testifying say anything, the guy's, well, you know, the way the fishes have changed, and we've got different fish that we fish now because of climate change.
	They go on and on.
	Does he have that actual voice?
	Well, that's the voice that the Rhode Island guy, only he talks really dumb.
	I like it.
	Now, so anyway, this goes on and on.
	So Weicker finally gets up and he is tired of this.
	And so this is his little comment with one of the guys trying to give testimony.
	This is Weicker on the environment.
	Thank you very much, Senator Vinner, Senator Wicker.
	Wicker.
	Thank you, Mr.
	Chairman.
	I have to say this.
	I have not today or have I ever in a committee hearing insulted the integrity of witnesses on the other side of an issue.
	And we have come perilously close to that in this committee today.
	And it's been suggested by my friend from Rhode Island That Dr.
	South and Dr.
	Lee Gates are part of a fringe and to me this is the very kind of public intimidation and insulting rhetoric That Professor Lee Gates has talked about having experience at the University of Delaware, and I take exception to it.
	Now, Dr.
	Lee Gates, you are a signatory of the Oregon petition, are you not?
	Yes, sir.
	And that Oregon petition says there's no convincing scientific evidence that human release of carbon dioxide, methane, or other greenhouse gases is causing or will in the foreseeable future cause catastrophic heating of the Earth's atmosphere and disruption of the Earth's climate.
	I assume this is some petition that you and some fringe scientists from Oregon got together and signed.
	Is that correct?
	No, I believe there's 30-some thousand people who have signed that petition.
	Thirty-some thousand people.
	Would you describe these people?
	Many of them are scientists, PhDs in other disciplines, people who are connected with climate change and doing research in various areas associated with it.
	Well, I just have to say I appreciate someone standing up and challenging the conventional wisdom.
	You know, Martin Luther did that.
	Martin Luther King did that.
	And so I appreciate some people who are willing to hold up their hand and say, wait a minute, I've got some data here that I would like to suggest...
	Is a contrary position.
	Well, I wouldn't put myself quite in that category.
	Well, but it is an important issue.
	I think it is.
	And I have to say I admire you for standing up, and Dr.
	South also, for standing up and saying you have a right to be heard and a right to be listened to and a right not to be insulted by being called a part of a lunatic fringe.
	Now, you've concluded...
	That droughts in the United States are more frequent and more intense during colder periods.
	Is that correct?
	That's what the data seem to indicate.
	When we look at droughts over the last 2,000 years, they tend to become more intense and more frequent when the temperatures have become colder.
	Obviously a Republican.
	Don't be a denier.
	The science is in.
	Go, brother!
	So this guy and the other guy, they presented all this data about all this stuff.
	You know, essentially the denialist.
	Yes, horrible, horrible lies.
	So they go on and on with this stuff, and then at the very end, Marky, Ed Marky, the moron from Massachusetts nuts, here's the way he wraps it up.
	Thank you very much to all of our witnesses.
	I appreciate you bringing your expertise to bear.
	We have heard today that climate change is having impacts on the ground right now.
	That's not an abstract theory.
	It's not about models decades or multiple decades into the future.
	Changes on the ground right now are real and measurable.
	He even said measure, like we say it.
	Livelihoods in farming, in hunting, in fishing, in forestry.
	No.
	No.
	These are real jobs and real impact on this generation.
	And the next, we've heard about bark beetle infestations.
	Locusts.
	We've heard about migrations of fish.
	Fish.
	We've heard about the impact on...
	Yeah, from the other senator.
	Yeah.
	Specifying wildfires, the impact of magnified droughts, the impact of more acidic oceans in the Pacific, their impact on oyster reproduction.
	Oh no, not the oysters!
	I just have to wonder about if baby oysters are having troubles forming a shell.
	How many other shellfish impacts are there that are going to be problematic for the food chain in our oceans and our fisheries?
	So, these things are real at this moment, and they confront us with evidence that must not be ignored.
	Certainly, this is in the context of a debate at this moment about specific measures that we might take to limit carbon dioxide, including that from coal-fired power plants, and the cost of ignoring climate change We'll continue to increase.
	The costs are real.
	Real?
	The costs are tangible.
	They will affect jobs.
	They affect our rural resources.
	Yes.
	Did this guy even listen?
	The science is in!
	No.
	No, of course not.
	I watched this whole thing.
	The testimony was exactly the opposite of his conclusions.
	He's either a shill, an idiot, or God knows what.
	But this is the kind of thing that gets, you know, of course, he's essentially grandstanding here, and you take a clip from that, as opposed to actually listening to the hearing.
	Oh, God, we're all going to die.
	I found this to be the most disgusting thing, and this is one of those obscure things that was not on C-SPAN. I actually dug this out of the archives of the Senate.
	It just astonished me.
	Well, there's a lot of this going on.
	As you know, this is the president's push to have the EPA regulate power plants to lower their carbon pollution by 30%.
	And by the way, the year that that's supposed to happen is...
	I'd like to point out that that is the year I called as an important year.
	Here is Alice Hill.
	Now, she's the person that does get recorded and quoted and used everywhere.
	She is the senior advisor to Homeland Security.
	And she's here talking about climate change.
	And as Secretary Kerry has recently noted, climate change can produce effects similar to those of weapons of mass destruction.
	Yes, just so you know.
	That's according to Kerry.
	We know that climate change will affect virtually every country on Earth.
	It is, after all, global climate warming.
	Global climate warming, and there's a reason she's saying that, which I'll get to in a moment.
	Okay.
	I'm sorry, this is out of phase for some reason, but we'll just have to live with it.
	...are also viewing this as a national security risk as to your governance piece.
	That is part of the governance piece.
	The American Security Project surveyed every country in the world and asked if climate change was included in their national security strategies, and 70% of nations said that it was.
	We know, for example, that climate change will affect water security, energy systems, and, as Susan has mentioned, the stability of our critical infrastructure.
	It could, for example, affect our military mission if our key military bases were severely damaged by extreme weather, or if they're just threatened by sea level rise so that we have to be thinking, where are we going to move them?
	We have to move the bases because of the severe sea level rise.
	Now, she said global climate warming.
	Yeah.
	There's a reason for this.
	As you know, the Yalies have for a while now had this climate change communication project, which is a part of the Yale School of Forestry and Environmental Studies.
	And a report came out.
	They studied this stuff.
	Remember, this is the climate change communication.
	And I didn't clip it, but Jon Stewart did a thing the other day.
	And he literally, I'll use that word, brings in the shills from the climate change communication division from Yale to talk about climate change.
	Not necessarily a climatologist or meteorologist, but someone from the Climate Change Communications Group, which is just astounding to me.
	It's a PR firm, essentially.
	This report studied the impact of the words "global warming" versus the word "climate change." Preface, I have the report here marked up in the show notes, 624.noagendanotes.com.
	This report is based on findings from a biannual series of nationally representative survey studies, Climate Change in the American Mind, conducted by the Yale Project on Climate Change.
	Nice!
	Yeah, this is a very interesting little report.
	It's about 33 pages, always wonderful.
	And I'll give you a little bit from the executive summary.
	This report provides results from three studies that collectively find that global warming and climate change are often not synonymous.
	They mean different things to different people and activate different sets of beliefs, feelings, and behaviors, as well as different degrees of urgency about the need to respond.
	So, the reason it was changed to climate change versus global warming is because essentially the warming has stalled or has been put on pause as is...
	For a decade.
	Yeah.
	And the models, by the way, the reason that that happened is, well, there's a lot of different explanations, but because the original models, the way they were designed, increased CO2 would always result in increased warming.
	It was a one-to-one thing, and then when it crapped out, it stopped being a one-to-one in reality, not in computer models.
	Then they all panicked.
	Everyone panicked and said, we're not getting the funding.
	I've always believed this is a desperation situation because there's a bunch of money involved.
	Well, there's a real problem.
	And here it is from this survey done by Yale, an established institution.
	We found that the term global warming is associated with greater public understanding, emotional engagement, and support for personal and national action than the term climate change.
	How much does that suck?
	For example, the term global warming is associated with greater certainty that the phenomenon is happening, especially amongst men, Generation X 31-48, and liberals.
	Greater understanding that human activities are the primary cause among independents.
	Greater understanding that there is a scientific consensus about the reality of the phenomenon among independents and liberals.
	More intense worry about the issue, especially among men, Generation Y, 18-30, Generation X, Democrats, liberals and moderates.
	A greater sense of personal threat, especially amongst women, the greatest generation, 68 +, African Americans, Hispanics, Democrats, Independents, Republicans, liberals, and moderates, and higher issue priority ratings for action by the President and Congress, especially amongst women, Democrats, liberals, and moderates.
	Our findings strongly suggest that the terms global warming and climate change are used differently and mean different things in the minds of many Americans.
	And they have all kinds of graphs, etc.
	But, bottom line, global warming works.
	Climate change, not so.
	By contrast, the use of the term climate change appears to actually reduce issue engagement by Democrats, Independents, Liberals, and Moderates, as well as a variety of subgroups within the American society, including men, women, minorities, different generations, and across political and partisan lines.
	Uh-oh!
	So I think they're going to try and move this to global climate warming thing.
	Global climate warming.
	Global warming has to be in there because people don't respond.
	In fact, it detracts.
	They gotta get the climate word out of there.
	They gotta just go back to global warming.
	But if it doesn't warm, if it's constantly cold and the lakes are frozen...
	Yes, this is a problem.
	The lack of warming.
	Yes!
	Rocking a hard place.
	Yes!
	So I think they've got to come up with something else.
	So they've tried climate disruption.
	None of that works.
	Global climate warming is too many words.
	Well, yeah, but this is very serious business.
	By the way, I give you 100 points for finding that report because that actually shows the public relations aspect to the whole thing and why it got so politicized.
	And it's actually scandalous, to be honest.
	In my opinion, that report and what they're trying to do to the American public and the world public, as a matter of fact, is scandalous.
	This is pure out...
	Out and out manipulation of the mindset of the American public.
	It's a shame.
	Oh yeah.
	Well there's a bottom line to this.
	I'll just read this last paragraph.
	Because of course they need to keep themselves in business.
	It is important to note, however, that connotative meanings are dynamic and change, sometimes rapidly.
	It is possible that with repeated use, climate change will come to acquire similar connotative meanings as global warming, that the two will eventually become synonymous for most people, or that climate change will supplant global warming as the dominant term in public discourse.
	In the meantime, however, the results of these studies strongly suggest that the two terms continue to mean different things to many Americans.
	So I think we will see a barrage of climate change, climate change, climate change, climate change, climate change, climate change.
	Maybe your original observation where the term global climate change or no global climate warming is the transitional term to go back to global warming.
	Well, it better get warm if they want to use it.
	I bet you they're banking on the following.
	For one thing, you have to have a big disaster or something.
	Yeah, that's what I'm waiting for.
	You need a big disaster or you need actually for the chart to change, even though I don't think it's going to.
	I think the way to come back on this is to find those guys from the 70s who are still all in on global cooling.
	Bring that thing about the brush fires being a result of cooling, which was ignored by this idiot, Marky, who should be voted out of office for being stupid, and then start pumping that into the public consciousness and see what happens.
	I think that would be much funnier.
	Well, there's apparently half the guys that were in in the 70s doing the global cooling thing, half of them switched over to global warming.
	The other half stuck with it, stuck with their guns and they're still on the global cooling side.
	Well, maybe if I look at what the U.S. Postal Service is doing, very disappointing, by the way.
	As you know, we're big supporters of the USPS. They have come out with a new stamp, which is the Sea Surface Temperatures.
	So maybe they'll make global sea warming or sea surface temperature or something like that.
	Because, you know, it's scary.
	So I think there's something, there's a combo between the sea warming and raise your voice, not the sea level.
	You know, there's going to be something like that.
	Well, maybe they're going to focus on the sea.
	Yeah, the sea is always good to focus on.
	It's always kind of scary.
	We don't know what the hell's going on in the sea.
	It's the sea, man.
	We don't know what to do with the sea.
	Is Michelle Obama running for Senate?
	Why?
	That's what a lot of people are saying.
	I haven't heard this.
	Oh, really?
	Yeah, really.
	Oh, no, I hear this all over the place.
	Where is she going to run for Senate?
	What exact qualifications does she have except, well, can you say the same thing about Hillary?
	Well, she signs bills.
	We know that.
	She signs a food bill.
	These rumors are pretty strong.
	Let me see.
	Where did I pick this up?
	Like some...
	Apparently there's a guy up in...
	Kirk in Chicago is up in 2016.
	I think she might replace him.
	I think she could win.
	Did you see her at Maya Angelou's funeral?
	Yeah.
	She could win in Illinois, which is corrupt anyway.
	I mean, they can just flip a switch and she wins.
	But does she really want that job?
	I don't know.
	People are saying that she didn't.
	I don't know.
	It's just a rumor.
	Unless she wants to run for president.
	Yeah, good luck.
	I mean, that's the only reason Hillary ran for Senate.
	She never lived in New York in her life.
	Now, next thing you know, she's a senator.
	So she could run for president, which crapped out on her.
	And I think this next round is going to crap on her.
	I think she's done.
	Tomorrow night, we get the big Diane Sawyer interview.
	About the book?
	The book tour interview?
	Well, yeah, but it's the big no holds barred, any question goes, ask me whatever you want!
	Drunk again, like the sign of Donald Trump again!
	By the way, I saw a piece of this interview, and Hillary looks dynamite.
	How old is she now?
	She's 68?
	Yeah, Elizabeth Warren is 64 and she looks better.
	I mean, she's not an attractive woman.
	But she's not uniquely qualified to run the empire like Hillary is.
	I know, but she's uniquely qualified to win.
	I'm sorry, man.
	Hillary's...
	No.
	Well, it's alright.
	You know, every time, all I can see is that as you go on and on with your denialism, it's just going to come back and bite you in the ass.
	Okay.
	Alright.
	I'll be careful.
	People who go against Hillary seem to get shot in the face.
	Well, unless somebody shoots Elizabeth Warren, which can happen.
	She has no way to raise the money, John.
	Forget about it.
	The Clintons have all the money.
	She is the number one money raiser.
	You're way off on that one.
	No, she does not have...
	Showing her chops at raising money.
	Wall Street does not want her.
	There's no way.
	She cannot raise a billion dollars.
	It's going to take a billion dollars to become president.
	Here's what happens.
	That may or may not be true.
	But it's the primaries where Hillary gets wiped out by her.
	Democrats like Elizabeth Warren.
	Democrats like her message.
	Democrats are all in when it comes, and they don't like Hillary.
	Nobody likes Hillary.
	The Democrats have given an opportunity.
	The only thing Hillary's got going for her, she's a woman.
	Well, we gotta get a woman in.
	They definitely have to be a Democrat.
	The first woman president has to be a Democrat.
	We gotta vote a Democrat woman in.
	Boom!
	There's your alternative.
	Oh, God, we don't have to vote in Hillary.
	Let's vote for this woman.
	Wow, you really think that, huh?
	Yes.
	Alright, if Elizabeth Warren is the candidate for the Democrats, that'll be a shoe, and anybody with two legs, you don't have to have legs, the Republican Party will win.
	No.
	There's no way the Republicans can beat her.
	Really?
	Get used to it.
	Wow.
	Elizabeth Warren, our next president.
	Oh, man.
	That's a frightening thought.
	Well, the thing is she's just going to knuckle under to everybody else.
	Because what I'd do is I'd bring in, what's his name, the CIA guy, Petraeus.
	Petraeus may actually run.
	Yeah.
	And he would slaughter her, I'm sure.
	No.
	Hey, remember, I'm from the future, boy.
	Yeah, well, you apparently didn't pay much attention to politics when you're out there in the future.
	Okay.
	I don't think Petraeus can beat anybody.
	He's got the chops, but he's too Petraeus-y.
	You know, you've got to remember him in that uniform with all that crap.
	You know, he looks like a Generalissimo from Chile in the 60s.
	He just looks...
	He's too arrogant and full of himself, because that was the indicator to me, and the little badge.
	He'd probably still wear the badge that says, The little Bakelite badge?
	Bakelite badge.
	So no, he doesn't have people.
	He's not likable.
	Elizabeth Warren is really, you watch her go, oh yeah, she looks like my mother.
	I can tell you how Hillary can win.
	If I were her strategist, here's what I'd do.
	I would, getting close to the primary, I would come out and show my spouse, my partner, Huma Abedin.
	Oh, no.
	Bam, baby.
	Bam.
	She's loose.
	She's gay and she's a woman.
	Yeah, no.
	Winner.
	Winner.
	No, that's not a winner.
	That's a total winner.
	That's exactly the opposite because, no, here's the problem with that.
	The Democrats who would be all in on somebody being gay, it's not a problem if they were gay, not if they've been hiding the truth.
	She comes out.
	She's not trustworthy now.
	Your strategy is wrong.
	She can't.
	If Hillary actually gets nominated, I mean, beats Elizabeth Warren in the primaries, I'll be surprised.
	Now, it's not that she can't.
	She has, you know, a lot of machine.
	And her choice of people.
	How did she lose to Obama?
	I mean, is the example.
	She was a shoe-in.
	It was all set up for her, and Obama walked all over her.
	And she had a bunch of incompetents running her campaign, which is going to be the same thing, because they're all her buddies.
	It's just, I don't see it.
	And this Ready for Hillary campaign is already crapping out.
	All I know is she's uniquely qualified, and I pray to the Lord my Savior every single night that she becomes president, because that will make our show that much more interesting for at least four years.
	I think it could be with Warren.
	Hey, Kaiser Alexander went on the Christiana on a Poor show, and again, something has changed with CNN. I don't even know if Zucker's in charge anymore.
	Something has happened where they get to bust people's butts about stuff.
	And so Keith Alexander used to run the NSA, known as the Kaiser.
	And he's now been replaced by the Admiral.
	Literally the Admiral.
	Oh, there, I said it again.
	I should stop doing that.
	And here he is...
	I'm glad you're catching yourself, because I should...
	You do it, too.
	You do it, too.
	We both do it.
	Can I say literally?
	Yeah, you have said it a couple times.
	Well, then honk the horn.
	Yeah.
	And he goes on the Christiana Anumpur show and starts lying.
	Lying!
	It's almost like that global warming climate change thing you just played.
	He's lying.
	We know that the president's advisory committee said, yeah, you should stop this metadata crap, right?
	Yeah.
	Isn't that what they said?
	Remember, they put them down in the basement of some, you know, C-SPAN 4.
	Like, go over there.
	And we know that every, except for, I guess, the something in the New York Times, everything else has been, no, this is crap.
	This has to change.
	So here he is lying.
	Can you tell me honestly whether you get the reset that is needed to regain the trust of the American people and the trust of the world?
	Do you get it?
	I'm not talking about taking the programs off the table.
	I think what we've done a terrible job in is explaining what those programs do.
	You know that all the review groups that have looked at what NSA has done has found out that it's legal, it's what they're authorized, and it's effective.
	You can see what the presidential review group has done, what Judge Pauly found.
	In each case, Everyone has substantiated that this is the right approach.
	No.
	We've got the overview of Kant.
	Go ahead.
	Sorry, I understand what you're saying, but I need to ask you and interrupt you there because, you know, you have told the surveillance court that the call tracking program was vital and legal.
	But these two groups that you just now mentioned, the review group, the Privacy and Civil Liberties Oversight Board, has concluded that the program was unnecessary and should be discontinued.
	Thank you very much, Christiana Ampour.
	I have faith in you again.
	I had lost it a little bit.
	I thought she was all in and shilling.
	Now she's saying, oh, this is not true.
	But now...
	This is where Kaiser Alexander, I don't know what he's doing.
	No one has the gall to do that to me.
	Yeah, well, he should get some advice on some media training, essentially.
	He just said it.
	You know, we didn't do a good job in the media.
	Yeah, that's true.
	And on the very week...
	The very week that something happened in this regard, he uses this analogy as an answer.
	When you're trying to solve a terrorist puzzle, we're going to give our analysts some tools.
	It's like solving the Jeopardy or Wheel of Fortune.
	You get a set of letters that you can guess.
	Each of those letters are tools.
	And here is how that works in America this week on Wheel of Fortune.
	Steven!
	Surf, Clay, where do we go?
	Uh, no.
	Blossom.
	Surf, Biffy, here we come!
	Did you see that?
	Did you see that Wheel of Fortune?
	Right.
	Yeah, it was the most obvious one ever.
	And the guy gets it wrong.
	Something like that and he couldn't get it.
	And this is what Kaiser Alexander uses as an example?
	What a moron!
	Well, that poor guy's out to lunch.
	I don't think he's paid any attention to anything.
	Well, now he sets us up, and this is, I think, the last thing we need to talk about today, because this falls perfectly within the cycle that we're expecting.
	You asked some great questions, but I think the concern I have when you start to ask these questions is we've got to have a way of putting the facts out so the American people know.
	Because I do think an attack is going to come and hit us or Europe.
	And then people are going to swing this right around.
	Yeah!
	And this is the big cyber attack that everybody has been predicting.
	It's on its way, and I'm thinking perfect for the cycle, for the six weeks.
	I just don't know if the FBI can do that.
	You know what I mean?
	Because it has to be an FBI thing.
	I just don't know if they're set.
	They're having meetings as we speak.
	Yeah.
	I think it's going to have to be...
	I don't know.
	We've never predicted accurately, except for these bonehead simple ones.
	The cycle is unpredictable, in my opinion, and that's one of the beauties of it.
	But if I was going to predict something, I would say that we have a cyber attack...
	That takes down a big chunk of the grid In red states.
	It'd have to be red states.
	Because you don't want to...
	It could be just New York.
	I mean, the same old thing as Cascade.
	Takes down it and then is blamed on the Iranians who then deny it.
	And it turns out to be Stuxnet or something like that.
	And we haven't put enough money.
	I mean, we have all the other stuff.
	We're following individuals, but we haven't put enough money in cyber protection.
	And Richard Clark comes out and...
	You know, grab some of the money and some of these other guys do the same thing and then we all kind of reset how we feel about the NSA. They have to be blameless.
	You can't say, well, the NSA should have stopped.
	It has to be something outside their purviews.
	Well, that's why it makes sense for it to happen in Europe, as he just said.
	He said here or in Europe.
	And I think, why would he say just Europe?
	Why wouldn't he say China or Japan or why Europe?
	Is Europe that much more vulnerable?
	Or Seoul, Korea.
	Yeah, no, it could be China, Japan, Indonesia, Australia.
	Why Europe?
	Because I think there's something planned.
	Isn't he with some consultancy now?
	Isn't he with some kind of cyber consultancy?
	Jump right into a consultancy.
	I thought he was already there.
	I thought he was already doing something.
	I don't know that.
	Let's look him up in Wikipedia.
	You will have to do the...
	Consult the book of knowledge!
	While you're doing that, I want everyone to keep their eye on the South Stream Pipeline Project.
	This is a big problem in the European Union.
	In fact, keep your eye on the Bulgarian government.
	The South Stream is a pipeline that would bring gas into Europe from Russia.
	But as the name implies, it goes through the south, so it does not go through the typical route of Ukraine into Turkey.
	I believe this actually goes straight into Greece or into Italy.
	Serbia also says it's going to continue, and the EU is beside itself.
	They're trying to stop this in any way they can, so I'm thinking maybe a few terrorist attacks.
	Bulgaria and Serbia on deck for some terrorist attacks.
	Because we cannot, cannot allow Russia to complete the South Stream Pipeline project to bypass our gateway between the East and the West, as Mr.
	to carry would have it.
	Keith Alexander, did you know that he was made a four-star general?
	No.
	Kind of extra-militarily because he was the head of the Cyber Command?
	No, I didn't.
	Oh, maybe I did know that because they made him head of Cyber Command and then he became a four-star.
	Because if you look at his medals and ribbons, he's done nothing.
	He has the Royal Norwegian Order of Merit.
	What the hell's that?
	I don't know.
	Sounds hot.
	He was a parachutist.
	Well, there's something to be said for that.
	He has two parachutist badges.
	One is the senior parachutist badge, which is an army badge.
	And then he has the parachutist badge, a German badge.
	But does he have a consultancy?
	No.
	As far as I can tell, he's still hanging out with his wife.
	Okay.
	Not the house.
	All right.
	Well, it'll be interesting to see what happens in the next couple of days, as we will be keeping an eye on everything for you.
	You really don't need to look at anything else, or listen to anything.
	We'll bring it to you if it's worthwhile, I think.
	Yeah, no, you don't think.
	You know.
	But look for some of these words changing.
	The climate change back to global warming.
	Well, actually, as a teaser, stop the outro.
	I want to play something.
	Oh, I'm sorry.
	This is something I just want to get this out of the way.
	This was for the last show.
	And I just want to play it as a teaser for what is going to happen because they're reconvening a Benghazi inquiry.
	And this is a guy discussing...
	Lying or not giving testimony before a congressional committee what happens to you or what should happen to you and is not happening to people.
	And I think this is very important to listen to.
	This is a testimony before Congress contempt citation and where it's supposed to go.
	Now, can be punished by a fine of up to $1,000 and up to a year in jail.
	The minimum being, by the way, a one-month in jail.
	Now, under 2 U.S.C. 194, which is a statute that follows very closely after this, if a witness refuses to answer questions or to appear as a witness, such as, for example, Lois Lerner, who was recently held in contempt by the court, then what happens is the House or the Senate certify To the relevant United States Attorney that a witness has refused to answer or appear before a committee.
	Now, in the case of Congress, in the House, the relevant U.S. Attorney is the U.S. Attorney for the District of Columbia, a man named Ronald Macon.
	And under the statute, His duty shall be to bring the matter before the grand jury for its action.
	Now, note that that statute doesn't say that the U.S. Attorney may or may not bring that matter before a federal grand jury.
	It says that he shall.
	In other words, he has to do it.
	Unfortunately, the United States Attorney for the District of Columbia Has refused to follow the statute.
	For example, when the Attorney General Eric Holder was held in contempt of court under this statute, he had a legal obligation to bring that contempt citation before a federal grand jury.
	He refused to do that.
	We don't know yet whether he's going to once again refuse to follow the law with regard to the Lerner contempt citation.
	But if he does refuse to do so, then it will not be a good sign for this committee.
	Because if there are any witnesses that refuse to answer questions or appear before, and they refer this matter to the U.S. Attorney, it'll be up to him to enforce it before a grand jury.
	And unfortunately, the lawlessness that has become prevalent in this Department of Justice, shown by the refusal of the U.S. Attorney to comply with this federal statute, It is a very serious concern and one that, frankly, no matter what side of the political aisle you're on, you should be worried about.
	What did Hillary say in her book?
	I'm done with Benghazi.
	I'm not going to talk.
	Screw you.
	This is all about Hillary.
	She's not going to testify and they're not going to do a damn thing about it.
	Because the Justice Department is corrupt.
	I just thought that was a very interesting clip.
	I like it.
	I like it.
	Alright.
	We'll take it.
	Ooh, so off-key, it's not even funny.
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