It's time for your Gitmo Nation Media Assassination, episode 620.
This is No Agenda.
Back in FEMA Region 6 in the Travis Heights, hot out and feeling the love of Gitmo Nation in the morning, everybody.
I'm Adam Curry.
And from northern Silicon Valley, where I've returned, I'm John C. Dvorak.
It's Crackbott and Moze Kill.
In the morning.
Woo!
Normally you give me a little more than that.
I ran into my column from June 26, 1987, which ended up on the desk here.
I have no idea why.
Which is called, you know the column I wrote about the mouse?
Ah, wait.
Yes?
Do you want to bring that up?
It's fine with me.
Here's one from three years later.
I should read some of this.
Now let's just, let me immediately recap this.
This is the famous quote.
In 1984, this was written.
Which, by the way, was a very valid quote, but it has been so often misquoted.
Yeah, by a bunch of fanatics and douchebags.
But, you know, it doesn't matter because sometimes you just can't change history.
Although in Europe you could probably have all of those quotes pulled off the internet.
Yeah, I think that'll happen here eventually.
Mm-hmm.
So you said there is no evidence people will want to use a mouse.
Right.
And at that time, there was no evidence.
No, there was.
Of course not.
Yeah.
Okay, so this is the famous column.
Should we reprint that?
Put it in the show notes?
I actually have printed it.
It's been on the net here and there.
But here's the one.
This was a column three years later.
And it was titled, 15 Reasons the Mac Has Been a Success.
Right.
And here, let me just read.
I received a letter from Larry Tesler, Vice President of Advanced Technology at Apple Computer.
Tesler was one of the brains behind the Macintosh, and before that, he was one of the main...
He was the man...
He was a one...
Okay, everybody.
It's all scrunched up.
It's a newspaper column.
I'm reading from this old thing.
It's yellow.
He was a one-man tornado at Xerox Palo Alto Research Center.
He writes, In close as a clipping of an article you wrote in 1984, have you ever written a follow-up evaluating your 15 reasons why the Macintosh may fail?
With the benefit of hindsight.
Yours, Larry Tesler.
So, I go on and on about, first I talk a little bit about the feedback I got on that column, but here it is again.
So it turns out that I was right on all counts.
Which is, I've proven this column.
All right, but what do you mean?
Just give me the top five so we understand.
Okay, well, gripe number one.
Well, let's go to here.
The gripe number...
Let's start with six.
Just go.
Gripe number six was no bundled software.
That's one of the reasons it may fail.
There still isn't any.
It turns out that the Mac users are so copy crazy that everyone has everything for free anyway.
So, okay, that one I was wrong on.
Gripe seven, a mouse.
Who wants these things?
Wrong, wrong.
This is great.
I've been converted.
Gripe number three.
Smallish keyboard.
That's gripe number eight.
The company's new keyboard corrected this complaint.
I agree.
That was a problem.
Gripe nine and ten.
High resolution graphics and font capacity are not discernible benefits by anyone but professional typesetters.
And this is still true, but Apple's business seminars are doing their best to educate business people.
Gripe 11.
The machine only drives a dot matrix and businesses want letter quality.
Well, Apple leapfrogged everybody and jumped from dot matrix to laser writer in one fell swoop.
It's a fabulous device, but that was a complaint that was corrected.
Are you feeling a little down about yourself that this is on your desk and...
No, no, somebody put it here.
They're speeding up the place.
Gripe Ford's too expensive, and 128K's not enough.
Yeah, both of those are right.
Anyway, I go on and on.
But except for the two mistakes, I was right on 13 of the points.
I think you should...
Can you scan that and send it to me?
Scan it and send it in.
Yeah, it's fun.
It's fun to put it in the show notes.
Yeah, I'll do that.
Anyway...
We're both back at our home bases.
I'm back in Austin, Texas.
John is back in Southern...
Southern Silicon Valley!
Yeah, there you go.
And, of course, I'm a little wacky.
Jet-lagged.
Yeah, you have to be jet-lagged.
A little bit.
We're both waking up around 3 a.m.
with nothing better to do than you-know-what.
That keeps you busy.
But I woke up specifically, so we came back, we left in the future and came back in the past.
Then we were back home Friday evening.
Oh, but yes, of course, I forgot to mention.
Returning into the United States.
Part 59.
Atlanta.
Hartfield-Jackson Airport.
Thank you.
So we boogie on out of the plane.
We boogie on out of the plane.
We go again.
We both get a little stressed because we know what's coming.
And we roll right up and we get to the counter.
And by the way, people get very confused.
It's not the TSA who are giving us hassle coming into the country.
It's Customs and Border Patrol.
It is all part of Department of Homeland Security.
Right.
And it used to be part of the State Department, which is why it's all messed up now, because the State Department is just one...
I mean, Department of Homeland Security is a huge, horrible beast created after 9-11.
Anyway, so we roll up and the guy is a little, you know, he's like, alright, are you friends traveling together?
No, we're married.
Okay.
And then he looks at my passport and like, yep.
What were you there for?
Just visiting friends.
No business.
No, just visiting friends.
Hanging out.
Uh-huh.
Did you bring anything back in?
No, no, no.
How much money did you bring in?
This is the first time I've been asked about the money.
What's money?
I guess we look like money traffickers.
Yeah, you do.
A little bit.
He said about 200 bucks.
It was about true.
And then, of course, he said, Mickey's thing, you know, swipes her green card and, you know, you've got to put your finger on the green glass and he takes the picture and he says, well, yeah, okay, you're good to go, he says to me, but, you know, You're going into the office, and I guess it's not the first time, huh?
And we both say, uh-huh.
Mickey's very happy.
Okay, let me get to it.
Hold on a second.
Let's stop right here.
Now, they have been pulling, they know, because it's on the record apparently, since they scanned the card, that she's been dragged into this office over and over again, right?
Or they wouldn't have said that.
That's exactly right.
That's proof that they know this is bullcrap, because there's nothing new they're going to discover.
Nope.
Which all of a sudden, she's, okay, okay, I'm sick of this, I'm guilty.
What are they expecting?
Well, actually, it got a little worse, and I have to say, I am disappointed in myself.
We had a very short window this time.
We had about 45 minutes to get through customs, get our gear, and then get on the flight to Austin.
And I'm disappointed in myself, but it's one thing to be sure.
You mouthed off.
I did not mouth off.
I'm disappointed in myself.
So, anyway, he says, oh, you know, so this is not the first time.
And then he says, you know, you can solve this really easily by becoming an American citizen.
And we looked at each other, and I said in Dutch to me, I said, don't respond.
Just leave it.
First of all, Uh, fuck you, Mr.
Customs Border Patrol.
I mean, what is, what, is this now, you're doing this to make, force her to become an American citizen?
Point two, you have to have a resident alien status for, I believe it's five years before you can even apply for citizenship.
So it's just not true.
And point three, as an American citizen, I was detained without reason for three years.
Right.
It was actually a skit in our show.
Yeah.
And I was like, ugh.
Let me just forget about it.
We moved on, and she went.
It was really fast.
In and out.
They know her now.
Hey, Mickey, how you doing?
The whole thing is such a scam.
Everybody knows.
Could they please just put a little thing on her...
Remove the flag on her record, whatever it is.
So she signed up for global entry.
We have to drive to Houston to do her interview.
At least we've got all that set up.
And who knows?
They may say, I'm sorry, we can't let you use global entry.
By the way, while all this is happening, the president actually was out in the field talking about his memorandum.
Establishing a national goal and developing airport-specific action plans to enhance the entry process for international travelers to the United States.
In fact, I have a clip about the whole thing going on.
And to me, I was a jaw-dropper because I don't know anybody.
I go to a trade show or something.
I run into a lot of people from overseas.
Brazil is a perfect example.
And I ask them about the experience, and they all have the same thing to say.
They say, you have a bunch of assholes at the border.
Yes.
But here, meanwhile, this tourism clip.
Here, meanwhile, is Obama going on about how, you know, this is actually a moneymaker for us.
Why are we trying to turn people away when this apparently is a profit center?
As a country, we're going to die if we don't have more tourism.
Let's go.
And if you're hoping for a holiday in the United States, well, President Barack Obama is trying to make it easier for you.
Yeah, but it's not that personal, really.
He's really just trying to help boost the American economy.
He says that by boosting tourism, he's going to try and cut those long and frustrating customs line at airports.
That could include installing automated passport controls and more staff.
The U.S. is currently the world's second biggest tourist destination after France.
That's according to the World Tourism Organization.
70 million people visited the U.S. last year.
Obama hopes to make that figure hit 100 million by the end of the decade.
He says tourism plays a vital role in the U.S. economy.
Tourism translates into jobs and it translates into economic growth.
When visitors come here, they don't just check out the hall.
They rent cars, they stay in hotels, they eat at restaurants, and that means For upstate New York, the Baseball Hall of Fame is a powerful economic engine.
Mm-hmm.
Okay, first of all, but besides, the Baseball Hall of Fame, that's where it's given the speech.
Right, right.
Who is coming in from, say, France or Belgium or Japan?
Maybe.
Maybe they'd go to...
Well, yeah, the Japanese are crazy about baseball.
But it doesn't mean they're going to go to the Baseball Hall of Fame.
They've got their own Hall of Fame.
This is...
The fact that he threw that in shows he doesn't have a clue about anything.
That's just me.
Well, he's now on some kind of trip, and it's all Ministry of Truth, and my God, the propaganda walk he did was just outrageous.
Did you see this thing that was on YouTube?
Mm-mm.
So he needed to...
Let's see.
There's a raw video, and the White House posted this.
Can't be regular.
Can't be routine.
He needed to walk over to the Department of the Interior, I think.
He needed to go there.
Instead of going by car or helicopter, for all I know, he decides to walk.
And it's like this spontaneous moment.
Which is not, and of course only the White House's own videographer is out there filming this.
The whole thing is complete propaganda, these shaking hands.
Okay, I have a story.
I'm having a meet-up in Detroit, the second one, and I got the story from a guy who works at Zingerman's, which is this big deli in Ann Arbor that everybody knows about, and they own half the town of Ann Arbor.
Obama comes to visit.
And so the front guys, the advanced team comes in and says, we've got to get security clearances on every employee.
And so they started doing all this research.
Then they set up this photo shoot with employees posing as customers.
Ha ha ha!
All with security clearances.
They pack all their employees from the various Zingerman operations.
They have a bunch of stores around that do different things.
And they put them all in the deli.
And then they had Obama coming in.
The whole thing was a fake.
It was a phony.
He's like, oh, how you doing?
Oh, how you doing?
And it's all bull crap.
It was just a complete...
Facade, malarkey, full of crap.
This is the way this country is going with this nonsense photo ops that aren't even close to being real.
And there's not a lot of talk about this, although there have been letters sent, etc.
But of course, you're not really hearing about it on the mainstream news.
Certainly, I'm not sure about the videographers, but the press corps, the photographers in the press corps are really angry that the White House...
More and more is having their own guys and it's the one guy who's been around ever since Reagan I think does most of the work his name escapes me.
They're publishing photos that they style and dress and light and they're publishing that on their own social media.
Right.
And the press corps is being excluded from these staged events.
Hey, you can do it.
Get away with it.
Why wouldn't you?
Yeah, and that is...
Because the press corps is a bunch of, you know, parrots half the time anyway, or pushovers.
And so they can just push them as far as you can before they...
They haven't done anything about it.
And there's been questions about it, and there's been some, yeah, just some, just not much.
And it's for the, the public doesn't really understand how incredibly wrong this is that it's taking place.
And he, see, there was, I was reading, there's a whole bunch of articles about this.
You can duck, duck, go it.
I'm trying to get that into my vocabulary.
You can DDG it.
where he was in a bus like a it was a he was someplace where i guess they make new buses and they had an antique bus maybe it was the one that rosa parks was on and he's he's in the bus in the rosa park seat they light it there's the whole description of how this went down um and it was passed off by the white house as you know oh he just sat there and reflected for a moment but when you really happened it was completely it was lit everything they kept people off the bus it It's nuts.
I mean, that is truly Nazi propaganda stuff.
Do we have some powder for the president for you?
Oh, please.
Do we have some powder?
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Hey, Key Light!
He's probably got gaffers and guys knocking the lights around with sticks.
My favorite.
Anyway, so we do get through and then we rush off to the...
And of course we have to go through...
It's really interesting.
You do have to go through security once again.
Yeah, I find that annoying.
But you don't have to show your ticket or anything.
And I will say that each time the Atlanta TSA has been actually quite enjoyable.
It's such a...
They're so the opposite, polar opposite of the Customs Border Patrol guys.
And we both opt out, and we got help really quickly.
And I got a super, super gay guy.
Hello!
Totally!
And he had, you know, the diamond earrings, you know, the black guy.
And he had the, you know, kind of like the ballplayers, the big diamond earring in each earlobe.
Yeah.
And I had a lot of stuff.
And he's like, what's your stuff?
But he really, and I'm not just...
When he said, what's your stuff, what was he referring to?
Well, because it's part of the service, the massage is valet service, and they pick your stuff, and you're not allowed to touch it.
Oh, I thought you were talking about some other stuff.
No, no, no.
And so he has to carry, I had like two laptops, I got the portable studio bag, a laptop bag, of course my shoes, my belt, my money clip, all this stuff.
And I'm saying, God, this is really a fantastic valet service.
I'm goading him.
Anyway, it was really nice, and it was funny.
You know how I am with gay guys.
They love me.
Yeah.
That was really nice.
Oh, by the way, leaving Japan, there's an exit process.
Don't you have to buy an exit ticket to get out?
No, no purchase.
No, no tax.
Oh, they used to be when I was there.
You had to pay us like 100 yen to get out or something like that.
Or a thousand.
No, but they do take the little thing out of your passport.
You have a little piece of tear-away cardboard, whatever.
They staple in upon entry.
Kind of like an island.
People should be aware that a lot of times you'll go in and they'll give you some sheet of paper and you better not lose it.
Put it in the passport.
They staple it into mine.
That's nice.
That's because people were losing it, I'm sure.
Of course.
I said, nice little Japanese lady there.
She said, did you enjoy your stay?
Yeah, it was great.
I had a good time.
Oh, will you come back?
She said, yeah, I think so.
I'm looking forward to it.
Okay, will you come back just to Tokyo?
No, I said, no, we don't like me.
She's actually a Japanese CIA, and she's grilling, and you don't even know.
Well, what did happen is going through the security...
I don't want to say checkpoint, because that's what...
I hate the word checkpoint.
But going through security at Narita Airport, and how many times have I gone through security with this bag, this big podcast bag, which contains...
It looks like bomb-making gear.
And not only that, but it has the Rota microphone in there, which most of the time they just want to see because they think it's a vibrator and they want to embarrass me.
There's all this stuff, and I don't think I've ever had to open it up ever, except once in Amsterdam, just to show the microphone.
And these guys said, oh, you know, we need to look at this.
I said, sure.
And, you know, kind of opened it up, yeah.
And then he starts taking everything.
I said, hold on a second, man.
Let me help you with this.
Because it's tightly packed, and I've got my...
Well, you do that in the United States.
No, no, no touching!
No touching!
Not a problem.
I said, and also the guy was really nice.
But he wanted everything out.
And I had packed this thing, and it contained the audio device, but also had my ham rig in there, NFED antenna wires, and everything's compartmentalized perfectly.
So everything has to come out, and then he sends all that through, separate from the bag.
And I said, do you even want to know what it is?
He said, no, no, no.
But then, while this is happening, a Japanese policeman comes over.
He says, may I see your passport, please?
I said, sure.
And he says, do you mind if I write this down?
I said, no.
And he has a sheet of paper.
Then he's drawing little squares on it, and he writes down my details.
And I think probably he's just...
Just his job just to write shit down or he has to hand in...
Is this as you were entering the country?
No, as I'm leaving.
As we're leaving the country.
Why do they give a shit?
I don't know.
I found it peculiar.
Just going back to your meetup briefly, did you publish or publicize these meetups?
Because a lot of people...
Yes, we talked about it on the show a number of times.
This is the problem with not being au courant on your episodes.
I talked about it on our show a couple of times.
I talked about it on Twitter.
Which has, you know, the massive audience.
Which is our PR arm.
And it's our PR arm.
I talked about it on Twitter and I told people the same thing.
And I think I even tweeted, I believe I tweeted it at least once.
I probably could have done more there.
And I was saying, just send me an email with the subject Michigan or Detroit.
I know the subject Detroit.
And so I created a mailing list.
We had about 40 people on the mailing list.
And they're going to keep the group together.
And a bunch of people, laggers, come in at the last minute and they say, I never heard of it.
Too bad.
I mean, you can still send me a message and you can get on the major mailing list that they're going to create for a group.
And then if I go back, you'll be on top of it.
Even the Japan, I'm still getting emails from people in Japan.
Oh man, I can't believe I missed it.
There you go.
You've got to keep up the speed.
One more tip.
Three months behind listening to the show, for some reason, I don't know why anyone would do that, to be honest about it.
I don't buy into the, well, there's these cute little things you say that are important later.
We usually reiterate.
You're a big fan of reiterating.
I don't do it as much as you do.
Can we brief these people on what we're talking about?
That's important.
And we do.
That's what my first boss, Lex Harding, taught me.
He said you can never reiterate too much because people are stupid.
Now, it doesn't mean our producers or listeners are stupid, but he says the more you do that, you'd be amazed.
It works so well.
So I figured a couple things out.
One, you'll recall I was talking about the glass hole who we saw at the Takeshita Street, the Japanese schoolgirl street, and then again at the Robot Restaurant.
The Robot?
The Robot Restaurant.
Oh, Robot.
Robot.
Robot Restaurant.
Turns out the guy, and I thought maybe he was doing something for Vice Magazine or whatever.
Turns out he was there, Chris Arkenberg, with a, he did a piece on Boing Boing.
A whole piece about the Robot Restaurant.
Oh, okay.
And despite the fact that he's a glasshole, it's a good piece.
It's very detailed.
So it's really nice if you want to read everything about that crazy restaurant.
And that's in the tokyo.noagendanotes.com.
Last thing about Tokyo.
Someone had given me the tip about getting the Google Translation app.
And this thing saved our ass.
I'm sure everyone's used Google Translate on the web, but they have an app.
And you can dictate into it, but it'll also speak whatever it's saying.
And I use this continuously and with great success.
And particularly the cab drivers who have no idea...
And they'll even pretend like they really know what they're doing and drive you around for 30 minutes and you'd be in completely the wrong spot.
But once we got the app and we were entering the address and translating it and the kanji was right there, 99% success rate.
Huh.
Good tip for traveling.
Does it work on an iPhone?
Yes.
Yeah, they have it for Android and iPhone.
We're very, very happy with that.
That's good.
Well, we've been promised this sort of futuristic...
Real time translation.
That really works.
And also the dictation, the Google stuff, I find when it knows that there's a limited set of things you're saying, so not dictating a letter or writing some prose, nothing works for that yet.
And I doubt it ever really will in our lifetime.
Yeah, but it gets you to the train station.
Right.
Yeah.
Or ask where the toilet is.
Anyway, so we got the jet lag.
I wake up at 2 o'clock and I'm like, oh, this is great.
I'm going to go out and watch the meteor shower.
Well, that was a waste of your time.
I just want to remind everybody that this NASA media shower is predicted by the same people who bring you proof of climate change and global warming.
Hey!
Yeah, good one.
I just want you to realize that.
I think Jace Buskill Jr.
tried to, then he did some research after the fact, and he says this thing comes around every 13,000 years and nobody knows anything about it anyway.
Right.
And they're full of crap about these media showers.
And I was looking at Twitter.
You got to see absolutely nothing, right?
Nothing, nothing.
It was a dud.
Yeah.
It was a fake.
Yeah, and I'm looking at Twitter, and across the country, the hashtag meteor shower, everybody's like, pfft, you know, I saw maybe, on any given night, you can, if you look long enough, you can see a meteor fall or a shooting star.
A real meteor shower, you should be able to see one every couple seconds.
Yeah, no way, no way.
But it was total bogus.
But no one's calling them on this.
Excuse me, why should we trust anything you say if you can't even predict a little meteor storm?
Yeah, that's a good point.
Quick catch-up on a couple of emails.
One, a score is 20 or approximately 20.
You'll recall we were trying to figure out how many...
Oh, yeah, do you like 20?
That's what it is.
But the definition is 20 or approximately 20, which I find interesting.
Huh.
And a great suggestion came in from Sean Coffey.
Then he said, hey man, it really is hard to find John's email address, which is why everyone is sending you the emails.
Yeah, it's so hard.
Well, not anymore.
He had a great suggestion, and I now have set up, next to Adam at Curry.com, John at Curry.com, which forwards to your email.
Yeah?
Well, good, because my email's actually failing at the moment, so good luck getting it there.
John at Curry.com, everybody.
Okay, I'm going to create complaints at Dvorak.org, and it's all going to your email.
Fine.
How many complaints I'll get?
Zero.
No, I'm going to tell people to hit the complaint button hard.
John at Curry.com.
Okay, while we are in our au courant segment here, the President has proclaimed yet more days and weeks.
As we are now almost at the end of the month, he's still handing out presidential proclamations.
Of course, we had Memorial Day, which will be Monday, and that is, by presidential proclamation, he is calling that Prayer for Peace Memorial Day 2014.
Prayer for peace.
I'm not quite sure why he's added that.
Prayer for peace?
Yeah.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I have no idea.
Yeah.
The security that lets us live in peace, the prosperity that allows us to pursue our dreams, the freedom that we cherish, these were earned by the blood and the sacrifices of our patriots who went before.
This Memorial Day, as we end...
And today and every day, let us pray for and hold close the families of the fallen.
So he's putting a religious slant on it.
I'm not making any jokes because, as you know, I've come from a long line of servicemen and women, both in uniform and in civilian garb.
So I'd certainly recognize them on Memorial Day.
But then we have another presidential proclamation, and this is for National Hurricane Preparedness Week 2014, everybody!
Yay!
Because as you know, hurricanes can demolish towns, obliterate coastlines, and devastate families.
We cannot eliminate the threats they pose, but with careful planning we can better protect ourselves, our loved ones, and our communities.
During National Hurricane Preparedness Week, America fortifies our homes and businesses so that we are ready long before these powerful storms make landfall.
And this was, of course, coordinated as we have Brian Williams from the NBC News there talking about the named storms they expect during this hurricane season, which, of course, has failed drastically.
By all predictions.
And he says something interesting in addition to this.
Overall, they're predicting 8 to 13 so-called named storms with somewhere between 3 and 6 of them developing into hurricane strength.
One or two hurricanes they predict will be major, meaning category 3 or above.
But, as you know, it is always the case in the inexact business of any forecast beyond 5 days.
We shall see.
Oh, okay!
That's new!
Five days, 200 years, give or take, whatever.
Yeah.
Yeah, definitely.
Very, very interesting, Mr.
Brian Williams.
Most pissed off people on the planet right now have got to be Kim Kardashian and Kanye West.
Well, you've been following this?
No, but I bumped into a report.
They got married on the very day that we have shootings in Brussels, shootings in California.
And you know that these people are complete publicity whores and are pissed off because no one's talking about their spectacular wedding in Florence with a wall of flowers.
Yeah, no, they were more concerned about the shooting.
The local shooting, which they don't have a clip of, had this guy who, I don't know, do you know anything about the Santa Barbara thing?
I know a lot about this.
I was going to...
Did you get a clip of the guy yakking about, you know, he posted on YouTube that he can't get a date?
Let me just...
Well, it's worse than that.
And we have fantastic producers here.
What could be worse than that?
If you look at all the videos, which have been taken down, but...
Yes, I find that very disturbing, by the way.
Well, the gay crusader, Brian the Gay Crusader, upon my return, had saved all of the videos, all of the postings on the Bodybuilder website.
Good for him.
Everything.
I have an entire archive, which will be in the show notes, and all of these videos.
So there's two types of videos.
Videos where he's talking, which is kind...
It's almost like a podcast.
And then he has videos where he's just driving and playing songs.
Now, all of these songs, all from the 80s.
And the guy's 22.
But I realize as I'm watching, there must be, I don't know, 15 videos that we have that you can take a look at.
I really don't know.
I really don't want to play that.
I do have some analysis.
I was about to give up on it.
Let me just tell you, here are the songs that he has.
Police, Every Little Thing You Do Is Magic, Katrina and the Waves, Walking on Sunshine, Whitney Houston, How Will I Know, Steve Perry, O'Sherry, Steve Wynwood, Higher Love, George Michael, Father Figure, and Modern English, I Melt With You.
This is like a bad Top 40 radio station.
Yes, exactly.
But of all of the videos where he is talking to the camera, He starts them off the same way, and I just did a little compilation of that.
He always says, Hey, Elliot Rodger here.
Hey, Elliot Roger here.
This guy's a podcaster.
A little disturbing.
Yeah, he's got definitely an opening.
He's got his opening.
I was ready to dismiss this as...
I dismissed it as another unreported kid on some drug because of some reason or other and that caught up with him and turned him into a...
essentially made him crazy.
And that was going to be...
My concern with this wasn't whatever you're going to come up with, which sounds more interesting.
My concern is still the same concern, that the news people covering these stories never bring up the drug angle, ever.
Yes, and I was...
I was kind of where you are, and I was like, this sounds kind of unfortunate.
Then a whole lot of things started to happen.
Although we're going to cover it today, we're going to cover a lot of the event itself.
I want to cover some of the event itself.
Really, what the result is is going to be much more interesting.
As immediately we have all of the memes.
We have the war on crazy, mental illness.
We have the war on women, misogyny.
We have the war on guns.
I mean, all of these things.
And immediately, all of these started to hit, even before we knew the guy's name officially.
Which is always a little suspicious.
But all of a sudden, when this manifesto popped up, that's when I went, okay...
Now I don't like this.
This immediately pisses me off.
And this manifesto was not readily available.
It wasn't something he had posted online.
What it was is something that someone had sent the news media and they printed out and you can't download a copy anywhere except for, as far as I know, one link from one...
We have a copy on the show notes?
Well, I can't actually copy this.
I have a link on the show notes.
Why can't you copy it?
It's unscribed, and if it's not made available for...
Scribd.
Scribd does have a download PDF function.
Yes, but you can disable that if you own the upload, and it's been disabled.
In fact, the guy who posted this is this so-called independent blogger, and his name is Matthew Keys.
And he...
Now, this is an interesting guy.
He's somewhat controversial.
He was fired from Reuters after he...
I guess he was busted allowing Anonymous to gain illegal access to the LA Times.
And then he was, during the Boston bombing...
I remember that guy.
Yeah, during the Boston bombing, he was tweeting stuff coming off of the police radio, the scanner...
So he said, this guy, somehow he acquires this document and he puts it up on Scribd.
And the only way you can read it is on Scribd.
I tried everything.
I really tried every single way to do it.
And they've got that kind of locked down.
But he's handing out a special code so you can embed it on your blog.
I don't like this guy.
I don't know why, but he smells bad.
So I read this 140 pages.
and there's a lot of stuff in here and and it's it's essentially but i wouldn't define as a manifesto it's it's a description of a character apparently himself from birth all the way to current day and he remembers a lot of stuff about his youth that maybe when you're 22 you can still remember you know how you felt when you were four or five in such detail and I don't remember anything.
I know when I was 22 and I wasn't recalling the good old days falling down trying to learn how to walk.
But he definitely...
The whole thing is like a script almost.
It's like the whole thing is laid out.
Oh, by the way, the gay crusader just gave me a PDF of the manifesto, so good, I'll have that in the show notes.
Yeah, it'll be in the show notes.
Yeah, he's a good guy.
So, all of a sudden, this manifesto pops up.
I'm going to play this clip, which is...
CNN had, I think, the best coverage.
Al Jazeera was doing a pretty good job.
And then I have some other things that we just need to talk about because it's irritating.
And I don't like it.
It's a lot of, I have to say, even the gay crusader, and Brian is, you know, he wrote our white paper on the Bogut of, you know, Putin hates gays.
And, you know, you can't fool this guy.
Even he's like, hold on a second, man.
And we got all kinds of people working on this with me.
It was up until 1.30 last night.
Listen to this as they get this document.
And we have the prostitute on CNN holding a printed copy and waving it around.
It's all theater of the mind as far as I'm concerned.
And we're now learning the gunman left behind not only YouTube videos, he also left behind a 140-page written manifesto that CNN has obtained a copy of.
This manifesto was originally sent to one of our affiliates, KEYT TV.
It's titled "My Twisted World: The Story of Elliot Rodger." And he says this is a story, a dark story of sadness, anger and hatred.
Now, so right off the bat, I'm thinking, okay, who was it sent by?
Was it mailed?
Was it printed out and bound like the Unabomber?
Apparently, we're not going to find out, except for this Matthew Keyes guy has a digital copy.
It literally is just text.
There's no formatting or anything around it.
That's all it is.
I'm joined now by Tracy Lehrer, who's on the phone from our affiliate KEYT. You reportedly, your station received this manifesto from Elliot Rodger.
Tell me some of the details.
It came from an acquaintance who had something to do with bodybuilding online, and it was brought to our attention early, and we have Made printed copies, and I'm combing through it right now.
And you mentioned the title, My Twisted World.
It is a very well-written, like someone who knew punctuation and wrote it out, but it starts with every...
What does that...
I mean, whoa!
It's well-written.
Someone knew punctuation.
Well, this is breaking news for CNN, because the public is being, you know, the school system being what it is nowadays.
This is a shocker.
They should look into this, knowing punctuation.
And the fact that it's well written, and this is now called, immediately it's called the Manifesto.
We have no idea if it's actually from him.
You looked at it, right?
Yes.
Is it well written or not?
It's well written.
Okay, fine.
Yeah, it's not a rambling piece of crap, by any means.
Yeah, it's a biography.
Basically a biography.
Like a lot of kids, he's talking about puberty and masturbation, but also he starts talking about being unpopular.
And he saw his father, who was a director of commercials and movies, have some financial difficulties.
And he ended up at Cass High School in Los Angeles.
And he was very shocked by how he was treated there and ended up going to an alternative school.
He was also obsessed with video games.
And what struck me is that in between video games, he would watch a lot of movies.
Oh, yeah, there's that.
The video games meme is in there as well.
I'm playing this so that I don't have to go through this PDF with you, because this is a pretty good description of what it is.
Yeah, okay, keep playing.
And one of the movies he was watching was Alpha Dog, which is the story of David Adias, who was a UCSB student who killed four people driving down the road in 2001 on Del Playa, in the same area where these shootings took place.
And that young man, David Adias, had a Hollywood producer's father Very interesting, this throwback to 10 years, or was it now, 12, 13 years ago.
...who went to the trial.
He ended up in a mental hospital and got out.
But the reason he was obsessed with the movie is because all of the young people seemed to be having a lot of sex, and he was jealous.
And he got very upset about any time someone was doing better with girls than he was.
And his parents, even his step-parent, tried to help him through dark times, but his jealousy was deeply rooted into his teenage years.
It's really something, but I have to say, it's someone who is well-schooled.
There's also a lot of name-dropping in it.
His mother was very close to George Lucas, Steven Spielberg.
He went to many premieres, most recently The Hunger Games.
His dad was a second unit director on that.
But he got a star in London, so it's almost stranger than fiction.
And as you mentioned, that title, My Twisted World, is like he had the story and he wanted his story told, maybe knowing what the ending would be, because everything toward the end is almost verbatim what the videos that you guys have seen have been talking about, talking about how lonely he is and how he wants to lose his virginity.
It's quite shocking.
All right, so a very accurate description of this document, and it's more towards the end where he starts to come up with these plans, and it is very few talking points that he repeats consistently in these videos, and he's a very eloquent speaker.
He's not experiencing college as he thinks he should be, or as the others are.
He feels that he should be Having relationships with girls and all the other guys are.
He's all alone.
Girls don't want him.
Why not?
Because he feels that he's good looking.
He's sophisticated.
He has a beautiful car.
This is seriously what he's saying.
He never says, by the way, I got a Hollywood connection and you can hang out with me on the red carpet.
Yeah, baby, get it rolled, babe.
That shouldn't be that hard to get laid.
He claims he's a virgin.
A couple of phony baloney business cards and you're getting laid left and right.
But it's a very short list of things.
So here's what happens next in the timeline.
The BBC comes out with an interview of someone, a guy who claims to be the family lawyer.
And I have a clip of what he said.
And this is very interesting.
And we're now learning the gunman left behind not only YouTube videos.
I'm sorry.
Whoops!
How did that happen?
Oh, here it is.
Yep, my mistake.
This child was being treated by multiple professionals.
The child was diagnosed at an earlier age of being a highly functional Asperger's syndrome child.
Now, let's stop right here for a second.
As you know, I do a lot of research into the diagnosis of mental disease.
There is no such thing as high-functioning Asperger.
There is such thing as highly-functioning autism, which is Asperger syndrome.
And it's very interesting that this is repeated over and over, high-functioning Asperger, where that is just no such thing.
But the high-functioning autism, and in fact, the definition Asperger is on the autism scale at one end of the scale.
Right.
It's Bill Gates.
Bill Gates has that.
Yes, correct.
And it's typically very intelligent people.
They have problems with the relationship.
They remain very focused.
Yeah.
And they do have problems, all kinds of problems, issues.
And there is a medication for this as well, which in the so-called manifesto, he talks about being prescribed that, which is Risperdal.
Yeah, Risperdal has very interesting side effects.
You want to look that up while I continue with the screen?
I will do that.
There were recent posts on YouTube regarding suicide attacks.
Which I did not see, by the way.
I didn't see a suicide clip only about killing or taking care of girls and the guys who love them.
And the killing of people.
The parents reported weeks ago.
They reported this weeks ago.
There was an investigation by the police department.
I don't know which police department it was.
They found that there was...
After interviewing the child in the child's home, that he was a perfectly polite, kind, and wonderful human.
No history of guns for this child.
Didn't have a lot of friends.
Had trouble making friends.
And remember, this is just a new guy on the scene.
This is very early.
This is someone saying, I'm a lawyer for the family.
By the way, the family is divorced.
The father and the mother.
And it's a...
It's a tragedy that we really have to get our hands around and try to prevent these things from happening again.
Ah, very interesting.
Now he's analyzing the situation.
The position of the family is not to be selfish, but to mourn the losses of all the victims.
At the appropriate time and when he can give a meaningful, he being the father, when Peter Rogers, you know, can do it, he will do it.
Interesting that he says Peter Rogers.
Where, as far as I know, the name is Rodger, R-O-D-G-E-R. So I found this to be interesting that he says Peter Rodgers, and he's the lawyer.
By the way, Alan Shiffman is a divorce lawyer.
So somehow he has been pulled into this.
He's a divorce lawyer.
He probably did the guy's divorce.
They're devastated.
I mean, it's a tragedy of immense consequences.
Ruins a lot of people's lives.
And as I said, his mission in life will be to try to educate the world.
Oh.
Hold on a second.
The father, Peter Roger...
Rogers.
His mission in life will be to educate the world.
To see how we can prevent these things.
These things happen way too many times.
And the world's got to spend more on this mental health system because it does appear to be broke.
Interesting message from the lawyer from the family, from the father.
Now, before we get to the weird press conference, the second one, there's a parent who shows up at the time, not even identified, I don't think.
And this parent has a very clear message.
Okay.
That was our Sarah Seidner.
There's a press conference going on right now.
Let's take a listen.
He died last night.
I've written out a statement that was prepared by the family.
Okay, he's written out a statement that's been prepared by the family.
And again, I'm not condemning, I'm just trying to hand out facts here.
I'm just trying to analyze what is going on.
This is all weird, but very similar to Sandy Hook, I have to say.
Our son Christopher Martinez and six others are dead.
Our family has a message for every parent out there.
You don't think it'll happen to your child until it does.
Chris was a really great kid.
Ask anyone who knew him.
His death has left our family lost and broken.
Why did Chris die?
Chris died because of craven, irresponsible politicians and the NRA. They talk about gun rights.
What about Chris's right to live?
And he's reading this, by the way.
He keeps looking for the next line as he's reading this passionate plea.
When will this insanity stop?
When will enough people say, stop this madness!
We don't have to live like this!
Too many have died!
We should say to ourselves, not one more!
Thank you.
That's it.
So, NRA and shitty politicians.
But we've had now the lawyers say it's crazy people.
We have this father come out, apparently of one of the victims, and say, oh, it's the NRA and politicians.
Hmm.
Now we get to this second press conference with Sheriff Bill Brown.
And I look into this guy's background, and it turns out there's an election coming up on June 3rd for a sheriff.
Growing up, I learned the importance of community and family.
And when you live in a place as wonderful as we do, it takes hard work to keep it safe.
That's why I'm proud of the accomplishments we've made throughout my term as your sheriff.
On June 3rd, I ask for your vote again to keep Santa Barbara County the special place that it is.
On June 3rd, re-elect Sheriff Bill Brown.
No one's mentioned this, that an election is coming up in, what is it now, just a week?
Yeah.
And when you look into his position, he is, well, I have the articles right here.
He is, first of all, he is on the California State Mental Health Commission.
Then he is a staunch, well, here's an article that says, Sheriff, no fan of gun control.
On the eve of Gun Appreciation Day, Santa Barbara County Sheriff Bill Brown said gun control debates have distracted the American people from the issue most affecting mass violence, mental health.
Quote, if we look at virtually all of the mass shootings that have occurred in our country, the common denominator in them is in virtually everyone is either untreated or seriously undertreated severe mental illness.
Addressing that issue needs to be our highest priority.
It's very interesting that with a vote coming up that his platform is mental health, he is on the state board, the state mental health commission, and we have a crazy person shooting up in his very backyard.
Right, with the counterargument that it's because of the NRA from this other guy.
Yes.
Which is probably, I would say, could be representing the other side of the argument to get Brown out.
And apparently he has a beef with the district attorney of Santa Barbara County, Joyce, I have her name here somewhere.
Now there is, I have no confirmation yet, but there is, this district attorney is very much against guns.
Although I think Brown is also against guns, but his platform is the mental health.
There is a word that I've heard from people who live there that one of the three victims of the knife murder, which we'll get to in a minute, allegedly in the guy's apartment, that one of them may be the son of the district attorney.
But I don't have that confirmed yet.
That's just information that came in.
So Bill Brown does this press conference, and there's a couple of really strange things as he goes through the entire timeline.
Listen to this one.
This victim was thrown onto the hood of the suspect's vehicle and caved in the windshield of that vehicle.
The suspect's vehicle then collided with several parked cars and came to a stop.
Responding deputies immediately removed the suspect from the car and handcuffed him.
He was obviously dead with an apparent gunshot wound to the head.
Since when do we handcuff dead guys?
So let me get this straight.
He has a gunshot wound to the head, which is fairly damaging.
Yeah, and he's obviously dead.
He's obviously dead, because his head's blown off.
He's obviously dead, so they handcuff him.
Yeah.
Can you play that again?
Mm-hmm.
Several parked cars and came to a stop.
Responding deputies immediately removed the suspect from the car and handcuffed him.
He was obviously dead with an apparent gunshot wound to the head.
Just annoying to me.
Well, there's that, and then there's this, I guess the police are just slap-happy over handcuffing anyone they can.
Possibly.
Now, this kid, who was once deemed too small to get on the Peter Pan ride at Disneyland, who was 140 pounds, 5'8".
Now, of course, we really don't have an update on this yet.
Wait, hold on a second.
That's not possible, what you said.
At one point, he's not a big guy.
I'm giving this a point of reference.
He's 5'8", 140 pounds, but somehow, Ebony has 400 rounds of ammunition and three 9mm pistols, but somehow he decides to stab three men in his apartment.
Location number one.
It appears as though suspect Roger murdered three victims.
Now, why does the sheriff use the word murder here?
Murder is a technical legal term.
Yes, it is.
This is very similar to that crazy coroner at Sandy Hook.
By the way, the sheriff is also the county's coroner.
Just as a point of reference there.
So this is, you know, it's like, why do you say murder?
Why are you using this word?
I want to mention something here, too.
Santa Barbara, to anybody who lives in California, even though people that live in Santa Barbara, by the way, I think Oprah has a place there.
Yeah, she does.
Absolutely.
Big place.
Big place.
It is the creepiest area.
There's areas around California, and in most parts of the country, you'll go drive through some town or something, and it just creeps you out.
It's creepy.
It's a creepy place.
But also, this is...
This is, what is it?
Something Vista?
Yeah, it's one of the...
Isla Vista, which is the poor part of town.
Isla Vista, yeah.
Isla Vista.
Which is all these kids who have, you know, huge loans to go to USSB, UCSB. Yeah.
But it's kind of the crappy part of town, which, you know, Santa Barbara doesn't really want to know.
Santa Barbara is extremely creepy.
Yeah.
I think we talked about that when I stayed once with, you know, a friend of Mickey's and we were there.
I found it to be somewhat creepy, too.
Yeah, it's creepy.
Anyway, so he's murdered.
Three victims within his residence in the 6500 block of Seville Road prior to the shooting rampage that took place last night.
The three male victims appear to have been repeatedly stabbed.
We are still processing that crime scene, and we are still in the process of positively identifying the victims and notifying their next of kin, so I will not have their identities for you at this time.
I don't know if the news is out yet on that, but that's taking quite a while.
And for one guy to take on three guys and stab them, that warrants some investigation.
Yeah, especially for a guy 58140.
Yeah, that warrants some investigation.
And by the way, there were early reports on the police radio.
This was a drive-by shooting two people in the BMW. One of them was African American, by all reports.
And there was even, and I don't have audio, there was even a transcript that said they had both, or they had the second shooter in custody.
This is very typical.
All the stuff that happened in the beginning, you never hear about later on.
Now here's Sheriff Bill Brown making a judgment call as a sheriff and coroner, making a call now as a psychologist or psychiatrist.
The question was when did we become aware of videos that were on the web and the manifesto, the written document that apparently was written by the suspect.
Now he's calling it a manifesto.
On the web, he says, which is nowhere on the web.
It was put on the web.
We became aware of that fairly quickly in the investigation last night.
And in reading this 141-page rambling...
It's not rambling.
I've read it.
Autobiographical...
Else says well-written.
So maybe he has a different one.
Was it 140 pages?
Well, it was, yes, but he says 141 pages.
So maybe he had the one rambling page...
In reading this 141 page rambling, autobiographical, almost a combination of an autobiography and a diary, it's very apparent of the severe extent of how disturbed Mr.
Roger was and the fact that he It had been and was continuing to be seen by a variety of different healthcare professionals, but it's very, very apparent.
Now, how does he know that the kid was seen?
And where is he allowed to even talk about this, about being seen by a number of healthcare professionals?
And where's the interviews with the healthcare professionals?
Who are they?
What healthcare professionals?
We need some information on this, people.
That he was severely mentally disturbed.
Severely.
It's opinion.
When you review that document, and the videotape is...
I love videotape.
That's my favorite.
Hello, 1990 calling.
We want our videotape back.
Chilling.
There were several videotapes that he had posted.
Several videotapes.
One that was posted just prior to the attack is a particularly chilling one.
Chilling.
He basically looks at the camera and talks about what he is about to do.
Which is true, and that's part of his talking points.
Just, I got two more and then I'm done with this.
Yeah, this was saying, it all kind of fits together because we have the manifesto, we have the videos, we have victims, although we don't really know who yet.
We have three unknowns, we have One other male victim and two female victims.
So total four male victims, two female victims.
As you are aware, in the manifesto, he lays out a plan on what he intended to do.
I will, without getting into too much detail, I will say that there are three people that were murdered in the apartment.
It appears as though that happened.
Again, murdered.
It happened prior to him going on this mobile shooting rampage.
Mobile?
The three male victims were apparently stabbed repeatedly with sharp objects, and it was a pretty horrific crime scene.
Yeah.
And also, there was some great video, which we didn't get to see.
CNN continuously saying, oh, we've got some video from inside the convenience store, but it's so horrific we can't show it to you.
Okay.
And why is this video released?
Don't the police always take that and you're not allowed to release it?
Everything's coming out real quick with this.
And then the final question in this press conference.
The question is, did he shoot himself or was he shot by sheriff's deputies?
It would appear as though he took his own life.
Okay.
All right.
That would appear so.
Okay, will you stop for a second?
Let's go over this drug.
Yes, thank you.
This drug, which is...
Risperdol.
Risperdol is the brand name for Risperidol.
Risperidol, yeah.
And it is a, it's used in schizophrenia mostly, and bipolar disorder.
But it also is used as one of those, you know, it also were, you know, one of those things where they use a drug, that's like a powerful antipsychotic.
That's what this is.
Yeah.
But they can use it occasionally, I guess they use it for behavior problems in people with autism.
Mm-hmm.
So he had a behavioral problem that required the use of this extremely potent antipsychotic.
And this is in his so-called manifesto.
He mentions this being prescribed to him.
It says in autism it does not improve conversational ability or social skills, which kind of belies his podcasting, and does not appear to reduce obsessive behavior in most people with autism.
So I don't know what it does.
Risperidone provides no benefit in the treatment of eating disorders or personality disorders.
While antipsychotic medications such as risperidone have a slight benefit in people with dementia, Slight benefit.
They have been linked to higher incidences of death and stroke.
Because of this increased risk of death, treatment of dementia-related psychosis with risperidone is not approved.
It has some interesting side effects.
One rare one, which would give him, I think, would be problematic.
It's not like a really horrible list, except the same old, same old, pretty much.
We hear all the time with these ads.
But there's a rare problem that creates a Priapism.
What is it?
Priapism?
Permanent hard-on.
Ah, well, no wonder!
That's what I was thinking when I read it.
Yeah, I mean, no wonder.
Oh my god, alright, this is starting to make some sense.
Thank you.
How do you spell that drug again?
Risperdon?
R-R-ISP.
R-A-S-P-E-R-I.
Rispera.
Don.
D-O-N-E.
Yeah, no, but the brand name.
Rispera.
Oh, Rispera Dahl.
D-A-L. Rispera Dahl.
I just want to, now that I have the PDF of the document, it's almost impossible to search stuff on that.
Scripted.
Yeah.
I don't see this.
This is not.
Medication.
I just want to find the exact sentence.
Here we go.
Here we go.
Dr.
Sophie ended up giving me the same useless advice that my...
Or that every other psychiatrist, psychologist, and counselor had given me in the past.
I don't know why my parents wasted money on therapy as it will never help me in my struggle against such a cruel and unjust world.
The doctor ended up dismissing it by prescribing me a controversial medication, Risperdone.
He said, after that, I refused to take it.
After researching this medication, never saw Dr.
Sophie again.
So maybe he didn't take it.
But he was prescribed it.
That's for sure.
Something else in this manifesto, which was interesting, he talks in great detail about purchasing these weapons, where he purchased them, but he never discusses the manufacturer or the model.
That's odd.
That's very odd.
And of course...
No, I mean, most guys...
Yeah, the more interesting thing about guns...
Is what it is.
What it is.
It's such, such, such, and such.
Yeah, because it's actually somewhat fascinating.
More fascinating than where you bought one.
Huh.
Which, of course, was named in...
Here it is.
My first act of preparation was the purchase of my first handgun.
I did this quickly and hastily at a local gun shop called Goleta Gun and Supply.
I'd already done some research on handguns.
I decided to purchase a semi-automatic pistol, an efficient and highly accurate weapon.
I signed all the papers.
And this is like a script.
Well, no, and you know what it sounds like to me.
It sounds like it was written by an anti-gun nut, which knows nothing about guns.
They won't shoot one at the range.
You could invite them to come shoot at a target.
They won't do it.
They don't know the difference between a Smith and Wesson, a revolver.
They don't know anything.
They maybe know a few generic terms, but they don't know any of the brands or what's associated with what.
So they would be the type of person...
So listen to this.
So he went to the range.
Going to the shooting range while I waited for my laptop gave me the perfect opportunity to gain some initial training in shooting guns, which will be the main weapons I use as vengeance against my enemies when the day of retribution ultimately comes to pass.
I walked into the range, rented a handgun from the ugly old redneck cashier, and started to practice shooting at paper targets.
I fired my first few rounds.
I felt so sick to the stomach.
I questioned my whole life, and I looked at the gun in front of me and asked myself, what am I doing here?
This is an interesting reaction, because most people, when they first shoot a gun...
Get a hard-on.
Well, he had one anyway.
But they tend to be surprised by the experience.
It's not frightening.
I mean, when the sound is, I mean, things are noisy, but it's like, oh, that's interesting.
It's just something...
You know, it's like, oh, I'm propelling this object at very high speed.
But also he doesn't mention what kind of gun.
Just rented a handgun.
A handgun.
I mean, who says handgun?
Nobody says handgun.
I'd like to rent a handgun.
Um, okay.
This is very suspicious, you're right.
Yeah, I don't like it.
But now, my analysis and what I'm going to do with this on this show.
First of all, this will be conspiracy theory heaven for a while.
Maybe a long, long while.
But there's just not much we can do But it has a lot of the hallmarks of a setup.
We'll have to see.
What do we find out about these three male victims?
All of these things have to fit in somehow.
But what I will be following very closely is the reaction to this.
Now the first thing that really...
Southern Poverty Law Center enters this immediately.
And you know I don't like these guys at all.
And they enter immediately with a number of blog posts.
And the Southern Poverty Law Center who look at racism, then injustice, and they've got $250 million in cash from donations and God knows where from.
A couple of headlines.
Shooting suspect Elliot Rodgers misogynistic post points to motive.
Elliot Rodger, is La Vista shooting?
Suspect posted racist messages on misogynistic website.
Misogynistic video before attack.
And from this has come a hashtag, which is, yes, all women.
And how this is playing out is because women wouldn't give him sex, he went to go kill women!
Which, of course, women were in the minority of the victims here.
Yeah, why did he kill any guys at all?
Well, he said he was going to kill the guys that loved these women who wouldn't give him love and sex.
Yeah, that's pretty sketchy.
But for this immediately to be grabbed this way as the war on women...
Oh, okay.
Yep, you got it?
Yeah, yeah.
Now also, why does the press not...
Typically, it would be all over the type of weapon.
They were preoccupied with the Sandy Hook thing, even though they were always wrong about it, but they described the weapon in great detail, the pushmaster, and they had pictures of it, and it was easily available.
They would give you availability statistics about the gun.
And, yeah, they tend to be very...
They did the same thing with the guy that was in Los Angeles, the cop that was shooting cops, and then he burned him to death.
And they had all his weapons, somehow, they got through the fire without singeing.
And they had this very, you know, they made a big deal about the weapons.
The specific weapons.
Where, by the way, are the iPhone videos?
Where's everybody's iPhone video of this?
I'm looking at it.
I can't find it.
Are you kidding me?
There's got to be some video.
This guy was at ten different locations.
All right.
Yeah, and usually when he wrecked, after he was shot or shot himself and wrecked and he was handcuffed, there should be people around there.
I haven't found that.
And half of them will be shooting videos.
He's the son of a Hollywood director.
So he really has only done two movies.
One is he was the second unit director on Hunger Games.
And he also did a...
In 2011, I think, he did his own movie called Oh My God, which is a...
It's kind of a documentary-type movie where he went around the...
He interviews people about religion.
And then he's done a ton of commercials, including the...
What was that?
Remember the...
PBA... This is no good.
The one about the laughing syndrome?
No, I don't have any recollection.
Hold on.
Yeah, when I play it, you will.
Hold on a second.
Let me find it.
He has his own website.
PeterRoger.com So that's the dad.
Then he has photography and directing.
And let me go to the...
This is some pretty nice shots, by the way.
Just some nice stuff.
Commercials and film.
Arthur Daniel Mitra.
Atlantic City.
Here it is.
This is the one I'm talking about.
Don't call it depression.
Call it by its real name.
Don't call it crazy.
Call it PBA. Pseudobulber effect.
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There's a name for this, and you're not alone.
Now you remember now?
You know, I would love to have these people in an audience.
Just take them around the world.
Yeah, shills.
Okay, so we have the...
Actually, no, I still don't remember.
So we have the war on crazy.
You're crazy, so how can you walk into a gun store, the gun stores that are actually named, and go and purchase a weapon when you're crazy?
You have a background check.
We can never have...
I mean, we've got to have legislation for this.
This guy's done a lot of commercials, by the way.
Yeah, he does.
Yeah.
And, of course, this legislation will lead to, you know, you have your highly functional autism, you can't really be around kids, and, yeah, you can't really go to the pool.
That's going to lead us down a bad path.
Guns in general should be outlawed.
Bullying, I'm sure that'll crop up.
War on...
It's got everything you want!
The only thing that really bothers me is the timing of this.
Um...
It makes no sense to do this on a Memorial Day weekend because the news outfits, everything's pre-planned.
The packages are good to roll.
Everybody's off on Long Island.
They're all down on the beach.
No one wants to work.
So it couldn't have been planned.
Right, so it's not a part of the six-week site.
No, no, no, no.
It's not even close.
But I will say, when I look at this, this kid is either...
Really, really, you know, this highly functional autism is clearly a very frightening thing, which I don't believe it is, where he decides to actually go and kill.
I hate to say it, but I'm thinking mind-controlled one way or the other.
It's varying of the, and of course I'm going to give you an MKUltra analysis here, But if you continuously hammer on someone and give them three or four points, which this kid had, and you inflate his ego, and you play to that, and you keep hammering this into your brain, and no girls want you, and no one loves you, you can make somebody crazy.
So I want you to go to the Peter Rogers site.
Mm-hmm.
And then click on photography, and then open up black and white, classic black and white, and look at photos 32, 33, and 34.
Okay, 30.
Wow.
Holy crap.
Okay, 32 is what looks like a dressing room scene with either female impersonators or transvestites getting ready for a show.
33 is...
I don't know if it's the same men now dressed up, but they're in a hallway and they're in all kinds of sexual poses.
I can't explain exactly how that works.
And 34...
Yeah, these are all men.
Yeah, I know that.
Well, who is that kid that's the dress?
The last one, yeah.
Yeah, well, he also has this, if you go to photography, cheeky, it's all photos of naked women's butts.
Damn, a little more than just butts, actually.
Hello.
Echo, echo, echo.
And it's pretty, though.
I mean, it's not like porn.
It's nice shots.
Well, I'm asking you if picture 34 is actually Elliot, Roger.
It could be.
I don't know.
Are you able to blow it up bigger than I can?
If you click on it, it does give you a blow-up.
Yeah, but it needs to be bigger.
Hold on.
Let me check it again.
His hair is all...
I don't think so.
I don't know.
I'm looking at a picture of him now.
Could be.
And he's got that cocky, weird look on his face at the photos I'm looking at.
Whatever the case, it's kind of odd.
And it's so easy to come up with MKUltra.
I know.
But a lot of it points to, you know, if we can make this kid go off, then we can have all these people jump in with all this analysis, and it's perfect for whatever, and please remind yourself that this, the mental health analysis is exactly the platform the sheriff is running on for re-election in one week time.
That's one of those things, you know?
Yeah, he's a shoo-in now.
Yeah.
Huh.
Well, there you have it.
Dynamite, no agenda analysis once again.
A lot of people to thank.
D.H. Slammer, Brian the Gay Crusader.
People stayed up very late with me working on this.
Oh, and by the way, where's Janet Napolitano in all of this?
Who happened to, you know, the woman who makes all false flags appear.
Isn't she already out?
She's out.
Doesn't she run the California system?
University of California.
Is this not a university?
I thought she runs the whole system.
She does.
This was only near the college.
It wasn't a college incident.
Good point.
So there's no reason for her to butt in.
Although two of the victims were sorority girls from the college.
The two female victims.
But still, you know, shouldn't she come out at all and say something?
No.
Okay.
The chancellor of the University of California, or the administrator of the system, very rarely speaks.
Okay.
Well, anyway, I think we're kind of done with what happened, and as people go through this and come up with analysis, if anything interesting crops up, we'll bring it to you.
Right now, I feel it's much more interesting to see what the result will be, the work towards legislation in all of these areas, because it always gets used for that.
I think your original thesis is absolutely correct.
This has got to be the most galling thing that's ever happened to Kanye West and Kim Kardashian.
And with that, I'd like to thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you, John C. Dvorak.
In the morning to you, Adam Curry.
In the morning to all ships at sea, boots on the ground, feet in the air, subs in the water, and all the dames and knights out there.
Yes, and in the morning to everyone in the chat room, knowagindastream.com, knowagindachat.net.
Thank you very much to our artist, Martin J.J., back with a vengeance for 619.
Our last show from Tokyo.
Apologies, I have to say, we both had a little bit of pre- and post-production issues with the show.
Yeah, glitches.
Yeah, during the show itself, we lost 20 minutes, which were literally lost.
No recording, no stream, no nothing.
I'm solving that now with a...
Hardware!
Yeah.
Woo!
Let me see.
Is this thing now on or not?
Yeah, it's probably not.
Yeah, right?
It's probably not on.
Is it a new Zoom?
Is it a new one with the black one?
The new one that you said one pushed?
You have to touch it twice.
This is the H4N? Yeah, that's the new one.
I've had this for two years.
It's not that new.
Well, it's newer than the old one.
Yeah, thanks.
Yeah, that's when you just tap it and it starts recording with the red light.
Yeah, and already it's failed.
It already has?
It failed?
Yeah, it was turned on.
You know what?
But we had some issues, and then I went to sleep at 4.30.
And then we were leaving at noon the next day.
Did you get some good sleep on the plane?
No, zero.
Oh.
No, no, no.
You're supposed to sleep.
I'm heading east.
No, it didn't work.
So I slept for like five hours, woke up, and then...
Did you join the Mile High Club?
Was that the reason?
Let me just finish.
Okay.
And it turns out I hadn't actually updated the podcast feed for iTunes.
My fear, by the way, which I mentioned on the show.
No, your fear was better.
You said, watch, the only thing that'll be posted is the 20 minutes that you lost.
Which I thought was, yeah, that was a genius.
But thank you, Martin, JJ, for the artwork.
And as always, you can find it all at noagendaartgenerator.com.
Looking forward to seeing what our artists come up with for today's program.
So we had some other issues with the spreadsheet.
Yeah, I did this correctly, and somehow PayPal gave me an old spreadsheet when I downloaded them.
And I didn't check them.
I checked this one.
And so the spreadsheet we read from was actually a combination of some of the meetup people who had donated.
And in meetup number one, we had two meetups.
And then a spreadsheet which was a combination apparently of 615 and 618 or something.
It was just a screwed up spreadsheet.
And so the entire spreadsheet, and I got a lot of notes, how come I wasn't mentioned?
You skipped over me on purpose.
So now we have, this is actually bad for the show because we have a lot of people to thank.
It takes up a lot of time.
We don't mind having a lot of people to thank.
But we don't like doing it for two whole shows at once.
And that's what we have to do.
So today is actually the thank yous, the real thank yous for show 619 and the thank yous for show 620.
So this is going to be doubled up.
And it's going to be long, and we're going to have a long front end and a long back end.
We'll probably add some time to the show because of it, because you can skip forward.
However, these segments are typically hilarious.
Yes, we're very funny, the two of us.
It's actually a comedy podcast that we're making here.
Yes.
By the way, I did add comedy as an iTunes category.
Oh.
I don't know if we'll show up there, but I figured, what the hell?
Yeah.
Someone could show up here, oh, I don't quite get the joke.
Well, people would say that they get a big kick out of listening to, and they laugh.
They say they, you get a lot of notes from people saying, oh, you know, I'm laughing, and I got my listening, and people think I'm crazy because I'm just laughing out of the blue for no reason.
I think, as we know, laughter is the best medicine, fact, best medicine for anything.
And I believe a lot of people laughed a lot about your quote of the show, burning towers in the snow globe.
That was definitely one of the better ones.
It's a winner.
Yeah, onward.
It's a little early.
Okay, we have a few people to thank to be executive producers and executive producers.
I'm sorry, associate executive producers.
And we're going to credit.
This is going to be executive and associate executive producers for shows 619 and 620.
You can pick one or the other if you want for your...
Credits.
Ready?
Yep.
Sir Paul out of Edmonton, Alberta.
$620.
So he's a member of the 620 Club.
And this was obviously for show 620.
He says, credit me as Sir Paul.
I need a karma shot for my sister.
Hopefully it won't need to be an F cancer one.
Well, I'm not going to do the F cancer then.
I'll just do the karma shot for her.
Here you go.
You've got karma.
Happy to bring it.
And another 620 club member.
This is one of the rare moments where we have two members of the club.
Certainly at this level of episodes, it does not happen often.
It's going to be rarefied air to be a club member of the show club number.
Sir David Foley, our buddy, is the Archduke of Silicon Valley headed to Grand Duke.
620 bucks from Los Gatos, California.
ITM John and Adam, please in close find my Club 620 donation.
Here's hoping that you both had a safe, you both had safe travels home and Sunday donations are up.
Thank you for your courage providing the best podcast in the universe from the future and the past.
Yeah, well thank you Sir David Foley.
Sometimes he's single-handedly keeping the show afloat.
Right, because he actually donated to 619 under Hyperware Technologies.
Wow.
So he's a member of that club, which we thank him for.
And it was 619.33.
He likes to slip that in.
He says, thanks for your courage, especially Adam for braving the TSA with the ultimate podcast device in hand.
Thank you very much for the last dose of No Agenda Karma.
It worked incredibly well.
Let's give him another one.
In close, find my club 619 membership and 33 cents for my net neutrality tax.
Here's your karma.
You've got karma.
You know, I'm traveling with a bunch of wires and stuff in my microphone and the DDA converter and all kinds of wires I threw in.
And I got TSA pre.
Nobody gives a crap.
Keep your shoes on.
Take your wires.
Good luck, everybody.
I just found that peculiar.
Oh, wait.
Well, this is a stonation.
Although his number is a little off, the official Stonation number, I believe, is 420.33.
Yeah.
This is okay.
I accept this.
Well, I have something.
We now have a sound effect for the Stonation segment.
Oh, hit it.
Well, you're going to read it after the sound effect, yeah?
You want me to read it as a...
Yeah, it says I'm too stoned to write out.
All right, ready?
Okay.
Wayne Parker in minute, North Dakota.
Hello?
North Dakota again.
I'm too stoned to write out the North Dakota update you asked for last time.
I need some travel karma, man.
I'm headed to Vegas for Memorial Day weekend for punk rock bowling.
Also, the last 69-69 Swazzelnuff karma game he totally worked.
Keep fighting the good fight.
Dwayne, the non-oil-working Californian in North Dakota.
Discombobulated North Dakota update.
This place sucks.
Lots of Africans and Mexicans.
The culture is non-existent and no one is actually from here.
18 months in and I can't wait to get out.
If it's too much to ask for, I could use some job karma as well.
As well.
Big promotion coming up in the next couple months.
Next step after that is fuck out of this hellhole.
Alright, some special karma for you, my friend.
You've got karma.
Sir Dallas Spongberg in Rocky Mountain House, Alberta, where all the money is, $357.
I should mention that Sir Paul is from Alberta, too, but he's in Alberta.
Hey, guys.
These last few shows have been phenomenal.
I really enjoy listening to the improv skits you have been doing.
Recently, I decided to donate because I'm on my way to college this fall to become a sysadmin, and all I ask for is a dedouching for the long absence in my donations to the best podcasts in the universe.
Anna Karma for the upcoming Alberta Diploma exams.
Keep up fighting the good fight.
You've been de-douched.
You've got karma.
Okay, onward to...
Oh, jeez, I gotta move this thing.
Hang on.
Boom.
Is this a script we have to read?
No, I have to move my spreadsheet.
No, no, I'm looking at the next donation.
Oh.
Oh, from Parker Snyder?
Yeah.
I wrote this similar to my word star scripts for reports at K-A-X-A-S back in the day, hence V-O in all caps.
Okay, so it's like a liner card.
I get it.
It's like a liner card.
I got it.
Adam voiceover.
Dear John and Adam.
Okay.
Dear John and Adam, I firstly would like to thank you both for your courage as this donation completes my official knighthood.
I can finally attempt to sleep peacefully knowing I am doing my part delivering value for value.
I've only been awake a scant 36 hours without rest, so it's my hope this message is more lucid than those I have sent in the past when I donated after incidents in which...
The best podcast in the universe!
has seen me through the toughest times and provided an excuse to pretend to be unable to hear cohorts because my headphones were simply turned up too loud listening to the show during many a crisis in the data centers.
Those who do not donate need to be made aware that without their contribution, the show will cease to be, and that regardless of puppies and kittens in newsletters, of which I also wish the aforementioned people be made aware of, would leave them deprived of information that can save would leave them deprived of information that can save lives and, moreover, ensure that they will not fall prey to the binding and stilted rhetoric that is pervasive in all our modern mainstream media and even in alternative media that must rely on a company, seeds or water filters to ensure their continued existence.
seeds I went to...
...dvorak.org slash N-A......and did the needful to help continue what is one of the last bastions of honest, unconstrained media reporting...
...which is effectively the only thing keeping real reporting news entity alive.
The producers of this show need to understand, and let me be clear...
...that it shouldn't require Adam Curry or John C. Dvorak to inform you of slacking donations to contribute...
Contribute now and you don't have to bitch about how Adam and John carp that donations are down and thus more content will come.
It kind of fell apart at the end.
Okay, no more of this.
Thank you, sir.
Thank you.
Sir Gene Natuliev, and that was 350 bucks from Texas.
Gene Natuliev, Sir Gene, and Austin, 3333333.33.33.33.33.33.
Donation in celebration of Sir Gene's birthday on Memorial Day.
To commemorate this occasion, Sir Gene, Sheriff of Texas, Baron de Marriott, Viscount of Austin with his producership, becomes the Earl of Texas.
Adam, choice of jingles.
Atlas Shrugged by Ayn Rand.
But resist, we must.
We must and we will much about that be committed.
I found it.
Good.
Sir Dr.
Sharkey in Jackson, Tennessee.
33333.
Nice.
CP and BK, please accept this donation in honor of my Human Resources 8th grade graduation today.
He got busted by his mom the other day for calling someone a douchebag pulling out in front of them at a light.
Where did you hear that, she asked.
My son replied, those grumpy guys Dad listens to.
Please give him a magic number you will obey and karma.
Also, I was thinking about adding my title to my official university business cards.
How do I record my title, Viscount Baron Baronet to Sir Dr.
Sharkey?
Just Viscount, Sir Dr.
Sharkey?
What's the proper etiquette?
What is the proper etiquette?
I would say Sir Dr.
Sharkey, Viscount.
I like it.
I like it.
That was really weird.
I couldn't figure out where that sound was coming from.
Okay, got it.
Anonymous in Denver, Colorado.
33333.
Value for value.
Keep up the good work.
Anonymous in Denver.
And then we got a Ken Chavenue in Kearney, Nebraska sent in a note.
Where did I do with the notes?
Uh-oh.
I left the notes on the other desk as usual.
Hang on.
Oh, okay.
Then I'll play something while you're doing that.
Do you agree?
Do you agree?
Lots of cool jingles coming in today.
And we'll do...
A little traveling music.
Yeah.
That's why I'm moving to Austin.
What?
That's Leo.
He's moving to Austin.
He's not moving to Austin.
That'll be the day.
That's why I'm moving to Austin.
That's a good one.
Yeah.
People, like, send stuff to me.
Yeah, they do.
All right, here we go.
Found it.
We got a lot of notes here to read from.
Yeah, I actually have a couple notes for the second segment as well.
If you read this note on the air, do not use my name for purposes of plausible deniability.
Okay, well, that's too late.
ITM, John and Adam, encloses a check for the amount of 333.
I've been a long-time boner, but in my defense, I've been trying to hit people in the mouth.
I finally connected.
J.P. Kearney of Nebraska pronounced Kearney.
Hello.
Hello.
Then proceeds to shame me by donating before I got around to it.
Oh, call out.
Uh-huh.
In turn, I have to perform a little one-upsmanship.
Unfortunately, Instant Night is out of the question because I recently abandoned the corner of happy and healthy after 13-plus years.
Damn psychopathic CEOs got fired, I guess.
I don't know.
Thank you for your courage.
I'd like to be the recipient of some karma, job karma, along with the classic shut up slave, two to the head, and little girl yay, if my meager donation allows.
Okay, so...
When I don't have it on the spreadsheet in front of me, job karma, two to the head, shut up, and little girl yay, something like that.
Let's give it a shot.
Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
Let's vote for jobs!
Yay!
Oh...
Slay!
Yay!
What's the buzzer doing here?
I don't know.
You've got karma.
The buzzer just stepped on the buzzer.
It was a little too much for me, but okay.
Sir J.D. in San Jose, California, 33330.
Trans-Pacific ITM to you, John and Adam.
Lifo greetings from the producer Sir J.D. in an undisclosed location on the central California coast where several clans have meant to launch a new couple into the universe.
I can hear the Pacific Ocean crashing in the background while I compose this message as I reflect on the celebrations of the day and the sounds of the waves from Japan coming to the California coast.
I think of how we're all connected by oceans, airwaves, and ideas we exchange in the time we spend together.
It's a little bit much.
What are you doing?
Please, I just feel like I'm in the mood for the harmonics.
Alright, no, that's good.
I'm on organ.
I'd play it.
Yeah, I'm good.
Please give jobs, jobs, jobs, little girl, yay, karma shot.
This is interesting, isn't it?
We have the same exact request.
Okay.
Jobs, jobs, jobs, little girl, yay.
And he says, and a shout out to Matt and Amy as they start their married life by the sea in the same day that my wife and I got married 17 years ago.
Keep the great work, kittens, and courage, Sir J.D. Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
Let's vote for jobs!
He wants a link to his PDF, which he's doing some donning.
Donning.
Donning.
He's donning.
He's donning anyone who is matching funds kind of thing.
Yeah.
So Nate Wilson in Charleston, South Carolina, gorgeous city, $270.91.
Thank you for your courage.
My wife and I had lunch with Dame Jennifer and her husband, anonymous name, a few weeks ago here in Charleston, and had a great no agenda discussion with more to come.
It was great to meet other like minds.
And I do want to say...
I get notes from people, and they really enjoy when they hook up with other no-agenda people.
Yes.
You should really try and do this more often.
Everyone should try and do that.
I'm telling you, guys, it's like you put together, like, I think you had 14 people in the first meetup and, like, eight in the second, and most of these people never knew each other.
Right.
And they were just instant friends.
Yeah, it's great, isn't it?
It's just something to watch.
So we're matchmakers.
Yeah.
Celebrity matchmakers is what we are.
But no, it's just fun to watch because it's like, you know, because you don't have the douchebag Obama bot in there.
You don't have these types of people that are just, you know, off kilter.
But I've also seen where you have people who come from multiple political persuasion still finding common ground.
It's not like there's no Democrats in our listening audience.
No, there's plenty of Democrats.
Yeah.
But most are independents.
We had a great no-agenda discussion with more to come.
It's great to meet other like minds.
Please accept this donation on my behalf, 27091, and the remaining amount to get me to double knighthood.
Baronette Wilson of the Lowcountry is a good ring to it.
Can you please send me a house-buying karma shot?
Yeah, absolutely.
Here it comes.
Buy the house.
The house will be bought.
You've got karma.
Dame Monica Lansing, Drayton Valley, Alberta.
Do we have a picture of Dame Monica?
I don't know, but she's got the greatest name going.
Monica Lansing.
That's right.
And here she comes.
Dame Monica Lansing.
In the morning, boys, I really enjoyed your punchy Thursday show.
You were both in fine form.
Since I haven't donated in a while, I figured it was time.
So she did.
Sir Andrew Largeman in Taipei City, who we credited in the somehow, I don't know how.
Well, there was the messed up spreadsheet.
Yeah, imagine my amusement, he says, when I first heard my name credited as executive producer her second time for the same donation.
Ha ha ha!
A freebie!
...in the past because he was reading from the spreadsheet from not one, but two shows ago.
Nevertheless, it was a kick-ass episode with both of you sharing fun stories from the road.
Please play for me.
It's what we do so you don't have to C-SPAN jingle, which we haven't played for a while.
And also send me some karma for an upcoming speech I'm giving at the university here in Taiwan.
All right, here we go.
It's what we do so you don't have to You've got karma.
Good luck there with the speech.
Onward with Black Knight Scott Spencer in Dawsonville, Georgia.
I know that Club 33 is long gone, but this double making it rain donation would love a call out for Hillary and Uma to come on stage.
Can I get a clippity-clop delicious LGY? Thanks.
Black Knight Scott.
Okay, Clippity Clop.
What do you want?
Clippity Clop.
So delicious, my friend.
Hillary Delicious.
And then LGY Karma?
Yeah.
Oh, man.
Okay.
I'm just lining it all up here.
Yeah.
It's clippity-clop.
The message is clear.
Just clippity-clop.
It's almost too delicious to believe, my friend.
Yay!
You've got karma.
Oh, the things we do.
John Grumling in Battlement, Mesa, Colorado, 201.
I think my last donation got lost in the space-time vortex.
Podcasting across temporal rifts ain't like dust and craps, I guess.
At any rate, here's another great analysis of tech reporting, unfortunately cut short.
By the way, I think I'm a knight at this point if there's no time limit on when the 1K is added up.
No, there's not.
So I'd like to be Sir Ready Kilowatt.
If not, it's nice to know how much further I have to go to get there.
Okay?
Yeah, he'll be knighted today.
Is that right?
So Eric did the math.
Onward with Christopher and Michelle Holman.
Yes, and they came in on an email note, which I will shift to.
Chris is at the meetup.
I don't think he was.
Was Michelle there?
I think so.
John and Adam, yeah, right, Michelle.
She's the, if this is the two, he works in IT, but she's a farmer.
John and Adam, it's a pleasure hanging out with John to meet up in Michigan.
It's rare to meet someone who is no different than he is off the air as he is on.
Yeah, hey, wait, whoa!
That's huge!
Well, I know, but I don't know if it's a compliment or not.
Yeah, well, that's okay.
Because I'm acting on this show!
Like every prestitute, just reading the prompter.
I'm reading the prompter.
Thank you for your courage and the tip never to eat at a place owned by Cambodians.
I had a lot of tips for these things.
And by the way, the tip never eats seafood before a flight.
We adhere to that.
We talk to each other.
Well, what do you want to read?
No seafood.
Not before the flight.
I think it's just a good cautionary thing to do.
Yeah, absolutely.
I mean, you know, you can get seafood anywhere.
You don't have to eat it before you take a flight.
Stupid idea.
Bad shrimp.
What was the other tip?
No seafood before a flight, and it was the second part to that tip.
Well, I think it was sushi, for sure.
But I don't like eating fruit on the road.
I eat it at home.
Because the only time I've ever really gotten sick, even when I came out of Mexico, is because of the warm fruit.
I mean, the fruit goes bad really fast.
I'd be very cautious about fruit.
And shrimp, for sure.
That's the worst.
By the way, the peaches are ripe here in Austin.
Oh, that's fantastic.
Oh!
Yeah, right peach from a peach-grown state like Austin or Georgia.
We went to the farmer's market yesterday, and everyone was really happy to see us, of course, because they're like, oh, you haven't moved away.
And the strawberry guy, we always get strawberries from him, also had peach, and he's like, here, try this.
And we're just like, oh, give me a bag.
And by the way, peaches, you want to keep them in a paper bag.
Your peaches.
That's how you want to keep your peaches.
A brown paper bag.
In the outside of the refrigerator or in the refrigerator?
If you have a cellar, the best place is in the cellar.
But in a cold, dark place, in a brown paper bag.
I'm maybe mixing up Chris Holman with another couple.
Yeah, I think I am.
Oh, right.
Chris is not the farmer's husband.
It is Dr.
Chris.
Anyway, he...
He says, accept my donation to Simple Value for Value.
No need to put my name on a brick.
He wants a creepy Charlie Rose for his beautiful wife, Michelle.
And some karma, of course.
Okay.
Creepy Charlie Rose.
Tell me about the sexuality.
It's in your DNA. You've got karma.
Creepy indeed.
Yeah, Chris was the guy on the other side of the table.
I actually did fairly well with names on this trip because I can remember everybody's face, but the names is confusing.
It's just something I'm not good at.
If I was, I'd be in sales.
Well, we can't remember half the names of half the people we talk about on the show.
What should we call them?
Watermelon Head, Lucifer, Lucy...
Right, we have better...
Nicknames.
Much better names.
I think you should have the right to be able to rename anybody.
Well, I've got a bunch of nicknames for a lot of the people we met.
There's, you know, the Beer Aficionado is one of them.
Anyway, onward with this list.
This is a big list.
Yep.
It was on David K. in Tempe, Arizona, $200.
And he says, I hope this small donation helps recoup some of the funds spent on your trips.
I actually feel bad that you guys don't get to take real vacations and instead have to continue to work on the show.
Well, that's not true.
We did get Easter off, and we appreciated that.
Yeah, we took one day off.
Yeah, we took one show day off.
In any event, I'd like to thank you both for opening my eyes to native advertising, and I have a native advertising deconstruction later in the show.
Good.
I need a ridiculous start, because I have some new rules.
I've decided that...
Yeah, we need them.
I totally agree.
I was about to say we need some new rules, because people are calling product placement native advertising.
That's not true.
Yeah.
Good.
Okay, we'll get to that.
I need a ridiculous story in the paper today about how Walmart is the greatest company ever for giving jobs to veterans.
I hopped on Google News and with a few search item terms found over a hundred similar stories all over the U.S. in the past three days.
There are people that, by the way, many of the meetup folks use this trick, which we talk about on the show, which is you take a very obscure sentence within an article, which obviously was, you know, it's just a weird thing.
You put it and you search the whole sentence on Google and you find all the copycat articles that are exactly the same.
I found over 100 similar stories all over the U.S. in the past three days.
This is no coincidence.
It's native advertising at its worst.
And listeners of this show, this is actually not native advertising.
No, it's PR. It's PR is what it is.
It's PR. Don't confuse native advertising with public relations.
This show, I will not be duped.
Thank you for...
It is a dupe, that's true, but it's not paid.
The native advertising requires...
Do you want to do it now?
Why don't you just do it now?
And people who don't listen to the donation segment will miss this excellent analysis.
That'll teach them right.
Well, I had to go to my clip list.
Let's do it.
What the hell?
I have a couple of clips here that would fall into this category, but let me open this.
This one is...
Oh, I have to set this up.
Yeah.
I spotted...
And here's a couple of rules I'm going to present.
This was an advertisement looking like a feature story.
Now, this could have been PR, but it was a little long.
Generally speaking, a video press release is very short.
They're short.
They're a minute, typically.
This was a three-minute piece.
We had the video press release part of it.
Then there was voiceover on the local level.
And then there was also a reporter in the story, which was not the same report.
This is the giveaway.
The reporter in the story was not the same as the reporter doing the voiceover.
Ah, now, dead giveaway.
And the other thing is when you're doing a story about a trend or an idea and it's product specific, you end up with what I would call native advertising.
And that's what this is.
This is for a dog.
Let's see, what am I going to call it?
It's like a...
What's that thing on the Macintosh, the iFace?
FaceTime?
FaceTime.
Video chat?
This is FaceTime for dogs.
Let me finish.
I'm sorry.
The front of it's cut off and the back of it's cut off because it's still very long.
This was about a four-minute piece.
Okay, hit it.
We've all seen the videos of dogs caught on camera when their owners aren't home.
Stealing muffins.
Tearing up the couch.
Crying during the day.
People have been doing their best to use technology to see and hear their pets.
But now, there's a way to make that a two-way street and interact with them no matter where you are.
Good girl!
My dad was Skyping with my sister and the family dog came running into the room because she recognized Molly's voice.
Braden Kroll's father, Dr.
Mark Kroll, who's a medical device inventor, got the idea for a way to alleviate that doggy guilt a few years ago.
He thought, well, what can I do about this?
But, you know, there's got to be something I can make out of this experience.
So this is what he and business partner Lisa Lavin came up with.
The Minneapolis-based company named it Pet Chats.
The device allows you to call your pet from anywhere in the world, as long as you have a phone, tablet, or computer.
I'd love the ability to be able to call her in the middle of the day, check in, give her a little bit of stimulation, maybe make her sit or do a few tricks and give her a couple of treats and, oh, by the way, I can also record it because she did this really, really cute thing and I can share it with my friends on Facebook or YouTube.
Think of it as Skyping with your dog.
You connect with the device mounted at your pet's eye level at home.
A ringtone alerts them and then you can interact with each other on screen.
And to reward your four-legged family member, you can push this button to dispense a treat.
There's just a missing link and missing peace of mind between pet parents and their pets when they're gone all day.
Pet Chats follows the basic principles of classic conditioning, or better known as Pavlov's dog.
In just three simple steps, you can train your dog how to use the new device.
And yes, even old dogs can learn new tricks.
Especially when their eyesight and hearing diminishes, the power of scent becomes particularly important.
The fan blows the scent out and it's an associative response so that your pet learns when they smell that scent.
They know that this is the fun experience.
Dogs are the most social being out there besides humans and so they love connecting.
Jodi Caro is a dog behavior consultant and this is her Shih Tzu Buddha.
Caro says it's...
Wow.
It just stopped there.
I cut it off because it was going to go on forever.
And so some of the earmarks of these things is that they're overproduced.
First of all, it's a product that is fucking stupid.
I'm sorry.
It's overproduced.
So look for stuff that's overproduced with sound effects and funny clips all cut together, which is unlikely for anyone to do in a newsroom.
They don't have time.
No time to cut in a piece, which is intro, voiceover B-roll, quote, voiceover B-roll, quote, back, done.
You don't have time to do four minute long complex pieces like this for just a regular package.
This one included, and I keep an eye out for this too, unboxing.
They actually unboxed the thing.
Right, right, right.
So look for that.
That's the indication.
And there's never anything negative.
There's very little negative.
If there's a negative thing, it's joke negative.
In other words, they make fun of some little aspect of it.
Right, right.
But they don't really have a negative thing to say.
So that's a dead giveaway.
They also mentioned the company where it's located, just in case.
And it's just a classic piece of native advertising.
I don't see it being anything else in this case.
I don't know how they placed it.
It's possible that they were suckered into playing this thing on the local station because they're hard up.
Like you said, this was a bad time to do a lot of things because everyone's on vacation.
They took off on Friday.
A lot of people aren't even listening to our show.
But that's, you know, a good example.
So let me just say, one of the rules, the way I understand it, of native advertising, is the story is not produced by the news outfit.
It is produced by the company that the story is about.
That is really the native part.
And on the web, they also have access to publish that directly onto, you know, Forbes or BuzzFeed or, you know...
New York Times.
New York Times.
And let me just say about this story.
When I was 19, and I get this fait accompli from my parents, you know, you're back in school in a month, or you're paying rent or whatever, and all of a sudden I was on national television, and I moved out immediately, got a place in Amsterdam, got my own pad.
Pad?
Pad.
Now, this is before self.
I didn't even have a phone.
I had to wait four months for them to hook up a phone in this apartment.
Really?
Yeah.
This is 1982, 83.
And, you know, they had to dig up the streets to add a new phone line.
And you could only have a gray approved PTT telephone.
And, you know, this is way before all of no cell phones, although they were coming, but really nothing at the time.
And for some reason, I got a cat.
I was lonely.
I mean...
I swear to God, I got a cat.
Dickhead was his name.
Dickhead?
Yeah, Dickie.
But I figured it would be funny to call him Dickhead, because at the time in Holland, no one knew this phrase.
Oh, so you could yell out the window, hey, Dickhead!
Exactly.
Yeah, okay.
And this cat was with me for 24 years.
That's how long this thing...
And he was, like, one when I got him.
He was in a solitary confinement cell in the...
What do you call it?
The pound...
The shelter.
Because he was attacking all the other animals.
Like, okay, he's good for me.
This is how stupid I was.
Yeah, that is great.
But he was fantastic.
Lovely animal.
He was a little weird.
But once or twice it would happen that I couldn't come home.
Either I was working.
I think one time I actually hooked up with some girl at a road show or something.
Believe me, this didn't happen often with me.
And I felt really bad about my cat because he wasn't going to get dinner until the next day.
And you couldn't just call people back in the day.
You couldn't just send him a text message.
And I had an answering machine.
One that you plugged into the wall.
And that was illegal.
You weren't allowed to plug anything into the phone network at the time.
And I would literally call.
And I had the volume turned up.
And I'd say, hey Dickie, hey Dickhead, I'll be home tomorrow morning.
And I would talk to the cat.
So it's not a crazy product idea.
No, no.
I can see people, I think a couple mistakes with the product, they could have pointed out.
If it has a little container, I guess it could drop a dog biscuit or something, a little treat, they say.
But the dog would be sniffing it out, you know, he'd be sniffing it underneath where the little drop box was, right?
This is what dogs do, they've got great noses, they'd be sniffing there, and then he'd be wondering what's in there, and he'd not This thing off the wall, and then he started pawing at it, and then maybe bashing it, grabbing it with his teeth, and throwing it somewhere to get the treat that's in there.
I think it has a...
That's a flaw.
How about this?
How about just, if you get a pet, make sure you're around to take care of it.
Or don't get a pet!
That would be my advice.
Yeah, I hate it so much, this...
Get a pet, and they're like, you know, you don't have time to walk in, what it's like.
And I can't do this with pets.
I can't have a relationship with a dog or a cat where I'm either cleaning his shitbox or picking up his shit.
I can't do it.
No more.
That's fine.
All right.
Nice intro.
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It's really interesting.
I'm just looking at CNN in the corner of my eye.
Obama went to Afghanistan for a surprise trip to visit the troops for Memorial Day, I guess.
Yeah.
Because, you know, let's draw the attention away from the veterans' healthcare, which is a debacle.
Here's something I was trying to work on.
I may or may not finish this little project, but the veterans, I was listening to one of the PBS, I believe, while driving around Detroit, and they were talking about the debacle and what a disaster it is because Obama promised in advance that he was going to do something about the V8. I think for our listeners in other countries, can you just give a two-line description of what's happening?
Yeah, what's happening here is the Veterans Administration, which takes care of the veterans, war veterans and servicemen, is apparently corrupt.
And one of the things the Arizona office was doing, there's a long waiting list to get served by this operation.
And the waiting list can be months and sometimes years.
And so what they did was, to make their numbers look better, they took all the people on the waiting list, and then when they died, they took them off the waiting list as though they never had to wait for anything, which made their numbers look better when they sent to Washington.
Well, we don't have that many people on the waiting list because they're dead.
Right.
They died during their wait.
They died during their wait.
And so this has become a huge scandal.
And this was not a matter of not enough doctors or enough money.
Where's the corruption?
They just...
How come these people weren't being helped?
Well, that's what we'd like to know.
One of the things I was interested in was a comment that one of these PBS, NPR people said, which of course they never follow up on, was the real interesting part is that they did a survey of veterans about the service of the VA and it came out very positive.
And the results of the survey was used to leverage Obamacare because, well, look, here's the government program that...
That works.
It works.
And now that I want to get a hold of that survey because that was obviously fraud.
That survey was bogus.
I'm glad you're bringing this up.
I guarantee you someone in our audience, one of the producers, will find this survey for you.
Yes, it would be nice.
We have such an outstanding...
If you're relatively new, our listeners are actually our producers.
And I've been working for a week and a half now.
I'm getting this email from one of our producer's friends, who now is also a producer.
Boots on the ground in Nigeria.
Oh, good.
And now this is encrypted stuff.
It's been going back and forth.
It's a very long email.
But if you want, I can just read some of the highlights that give a little different perspective on what's going on with Boko Haram, with the oil, with Jonathan Goodluck, and with the girls.
You want to do that now?
We've been talking a lot.
We can do a clip if you want.
No, let's do it.
Okay.
What makes this particular kidnapping so special?
For one thing, the March 2014 Boko Haram assault on Ghiwa Army barracks in Maiduguri, the capital of the Borno state, and the freeing of Boko Haram of over a thousand civilian prisoners held by the Nigerian army.
Among these prisoners, women and children, family members of Boko Haram fighters.
The site was filmed by Boko Haram on YouTube, and that link is in the show notes, Later on, the Nigerian military caught up with most of the freed prisoners and killed everyone they found.
Almost all of them were trying to give themselves up.
About 600 of these prisoners were executed.
So this was a retaliatory kidnapping.
And this, of course, you'll hear from nobody as to what this kidnapping was really about.
As you can see from the video, these guys have quite the arsenal now.
How did they go from street kids to a force with access to military hardware and training?
Well, three schools of thought.
One, the CIA via Libya.
The second, the Nigerian government military themselves.
And third, well, it's both.
How, again, are the CIA and the Nigerian government involved in this?
Oil and China.
It's not just about dialing down Nigeria's military influence over West Africa.
It's mostly about oil and China.
There are training camps in the border region to Cameroon where Boko Haram fighters are being trained by CIA and Arabs from Libya and Syria.
Recently, captured Boko Haram fighters had said they were being trained by white men in camps near the Cameroon border.
There's also significant multi-generational Lebanese community, mostly in the north of Nigeria.
At one point, one of our previous military dictator's wife in the early 90s facilitated Hezbollah arms trafficking through Nigeria into Lebanon.
Yes, over $50 billion in oil money are unaccounted for, as mentioned in your previous show, but that is not all there is to it.
China plays a massive role in Nigeria, and China has been trying to get into the oil industry, which has historically been dominated by European and American corporations and interests.
China also features prominently in the countries on Nigeria's northeastern border, Niger, Chad, and Cameroon.
Back to the hashtag, bring back our girls.
This was very interesting to me.
But then someone put a hashtag out there.
Now the whole world is involved.
The U.S. sent in 10 Marines, who apparently are hanging out in Abuja doing not much.
And by the way, wouldn't it be great if, this is just me talking, if we could figure out a way, of course Twitter can do it, who used the hashtag first?
Wouldn't that be fantastic if you could do, I mean, if we just had the Twitter fire hose, we could figure it out?
That would be such important information.
Well, if you search for the hashtag, you should be able to figure it out that way.
For the first person who used it?
I don't think so.
Yeah, they have them all.
The hashtag search will give you all the people that have used it, all of them, whether you follow them or not, and it should reveal the first one, or at least within the first one.
You can go to the first, because they have the dates, so you can at least go to that first one and ask them where they got it.
That wouldn't be hard.
But if it's been used 10,000 times, what, you scroll forever until you finally get to the first?
You can't sort it by date, can you?
I think it shows up by date.
Can you reverse it so you get the first one at the top?
No, you cannot do that.
Maybe one of our producers can figure this out.
Whatever the case is, I think we can come up with that guy.
I'm back to this email.
While the goal is to get a grip over Nigeria, drive out the Chiners, and split the country for oil, either officially like in South Sudan or unofficially like in Libya, the powers involved in this game have no clue what they're getting into.
February 2015 is when the next Nigerian presidential elections are due.
Jonathan Goodluck intends to run for a second term, but already I'm noticing Western media burning him in the Nigerian military.
The U.S. and France are going to get rid of him either peacefully or by a, quote, heinous Boko Haram terrorist attack.
I believe, he says, I don't know if it's he or she actually, there is a military coup coming.
This is a good point.
The military is splintering and eventually it's going to break.
I think the problem was not originally part of the plan as being severely underestimated.
I believe Jonathan's successor is meant to be Ms.
Ngozi Onkojo-Iwellia.
She is the current Nigerian finance minister, previously a managing director at the World Bank.
And the links to all of that in the show notes.
While Onkojo is meant to be the next president, things will not turn out that way, unfortunately.
The almost inevitable military coup, the wild card that is Ansaru, The eventual rise and resurgence of other ethnic and religious military groups in Nigeria will drag the country down into a second civil war, which is good.
That's what we always like.
One that will have Iraq-level body counts and eventually lead to the split of the country into at least five or six different countries and or autonomous ethnic religious regions.
Rubble eyes.
Yep.
I think the U.S. and France, in all this madness, will rapidly green zone both oil regions, the Niger Delta and the South-South, And the Chad Basin in the Northeast.
I also believe the Chinese hacking scandal is bogus and is related to the unfolding events in Nigeria and the general maligning of the Chinese image in Africa.
Keep an eye on the news relating to Chinese involvement in Africa and how the exploitation meme is suddenly cropping up.
This email is five times as long, but these are kind of the highlights I thought would be interesting.
Yeah, and we've been keeping an eye on China all along, of course.
Yeah, of course.
But I think the only people that do that, of all the news analysis out there, I don't think anybody brings up China.
But they bring up the bullcrap about the Chinese spying.
Yeah.
Yeah, they bring up the negative stuff.
The president sent a letter...
To the Senate, and he says, Dear Mr.
Speaker, Approximately 80 U.S. Armed Forces personnel have deployed to Chad as part of the U.S. efforts to locate and support the safe return of over 200 schoolgirls.
This action has been directed in furtherance of U.S. national security, and he basically says, I am providing this report as part of my efforts to keep Congress fully informed, consistent with the War Powers Resolution.
In other words, it's okay for me to send troops anywhere under the War Powers Resolution.
So, of course, we know there's no need to really declare any war or anything anymore.
No.
I don't need to do that.
But well done!
Salma Hayek had the Bring Back Our Girls hashtag on the red carpet in Cannes.
Well done.
Well done.
And of course today we finalized the European elections and we have the election in Ukraine.
Looks like I'm getting real-time updates.
The Belgian Nationalist Party...
Getting a lot of votes.
Yeah, the Dutch kind of dropped the ball.
I have the Dutch vote clip from France 24.
They were saying it was a big disappointment.
The European elections have kicked off.
Britain and the Netherlands were the first to vote on Thursday, although a wave of Euroscepticism grips the EU. A low turnout is expected, and far-right parties are likely to be the big winners of this vote.
I love the far right.
Yeah, no, France 24, like most media outlets, they can't be right or conservative.
They can't use those words.
They have to use far right.
Yeah, they barely, barely get away from neo-Nazi.
But far, far right.
Not just right.
Far, way over there in Nazi land.
However, according to a Dutch exit poll, the Nationalist Freedom Party, the PVV, didn't do as well as it had hoped.
Delano D'Souza explains.
Marshall, Marshall, Marshall.
It's a devastating blow to the Dutch far-right.
According to exit polls released Thursday, the Freedom Party led by Geert Wilders is set to finish behind pro-European rivals.
Known for its anti-Islam and anti-EU stance, the party's blaming a low turnout of 37% for its poor performance.
The Netherlands has not become more pro-Europe.
Two-thirds of the voters stayed at home.
I can only say to you that we fought like lions.
Honestly, the exit polls are a bit disappointing, but let's not be too upset over it.
So we don't have the final tally in yet.
There are a couple of things that I think Geert Wilders may have done incorrectly.
I think he got some bad advice.
Some last minute stunts, one which was immediately grabbed by the incumbents and they said, oh, the stuff he's saying, it's crazy, we have to send special delegates to Saudi Arabia, they don't want to do business with us, that could ruin 2 billion euros worth of business between Saudi Arabia and the Netherlands.
And then he did, there's a report from Euronews about something he did just before the elections.
The Dutch far-right and anti-E... Far-right again.
Euronews far-right.
EU leader Hert Wilders has been campaigning for the EU election in Brussels, just outside the European Parliament.
Cutting out a symbolic Dutch star from the EU flag, he made his feelings clear.
So he cut out a flag of the Euro...
The star.
Yeah, a star out of the flag.
Like, I'm taking that bag with me.
Because the Dutch don't...
I don't think...
Flag desecration, although who cares about this flag, is not the way to go.
I think it's a bad stunt.
Yeah, no, that's a bad stunt.
It's meaningless.
They nailed him for something else, too.
If you play Dutch Vote Part 2, you can hear there's some other thing he did that was a screw-up.
Polls indicate the Freedom Party will get around 12.2% of the vote, bringing the number of seats it has in the European Assembly.
By the way, I just need to stop this for a second.
This is a...
As I understand it, people have three days to vote.
When you have this kind of messaging out there on day two, you're really influencing the vote.
Yeah, actually the idea of having three days to vote is bad.
Very bad.
In the United States, because they don't close the polls all at the same time, they have influenced voter turnout in the West Coast, which is the last polls to close.
Don't even leave your home!
No reason!
It has in the European Assembly down from five to three.
The Christian Democrats and centrist Democrat 66, both pro-European parties, are positioned to get over 30% of the vote with four seats each.
The Freedom Party had a lead in opinion polls until a controversial remark from Wilders before voting.
He called for fewer Moroccans, a comment widely viewed as racist.
With Europe struggling to recover from economic crisis and high unemployment, parties of the far right in member states like France, the UK, and Austria are expected to see a surge in support.
By the way, Miss Mickey...
The old racist tag is a winner.
Well, that's been going on for a while.
I mean, he's just saying what Pim Fortin was saying in 2001.
By the way, Miss Mickey just walked in with a lovely peach for me.
I thought you just had a peach.
No, I had the peach yesterday at the market.
She just brought in a peach for me to eat now.
Oh, you shouldn't be eating on the air.
I'm not.
I'm eating during the clips.
You know, you...
Yeah, baby!
I didn't even get half the stuff I wanted to get today.
I got a couple of oddball clips so we can get...
Oddballs.
I found Bill Moores had some guy on.
Like a lousy version of Charlie Rose.
Was this David Suzuki?
No, I don't know who it was.
It was some guy in global warming.
Yeah, David Suzuki.
Okay, well he has this guy, and he makes the strangest comment in analysis of the people rejecting the global warming thesis by man-made global warming.
We're talking about man-made global warming thesis.
Anthropogenic.
And I found this to be like...
And I hate to use the word telling, but I think there's something about what he says at the end of this clip that is like, wow, something's wrong with these people.
And there was a Gallup poll in this country a few weeks ago that said, despite rising temperatures and all of this strange weather, we've been having the percentage of Americans who care a great deal about global warming.
Has been dropping from 41% six years ago to 34% today.
What is it about human nature that wants to believe the worst can't happen?
I don't know.
I don't know.
I have a different clip from him.
Well, let me just, let's stop here.
Yeah.
What is it about human nature that leads them to believe the worst can't happen?
I don't know.
I don't know, the other guy says.
What kind of thinking is this?
So you're supposed to go around your whole life and analyzing your situation, whatever it is, as a worst-case scenario?
Is that what this liberal operation is all about?
Just looking at everything at such a negative level that everything's worst case scenario?
Because that's what, you know...
I think they're saying something different.
No.
I think the way...
Really what they're saying is, how come our fear-mongering is not working?
That's what I think they're really saying.
That's an interesting interpretation.
That's exactly what I hear.
And of course, now we've moved to climate disruption, because it's not working.
Yeah, no, I know it's not working.
So now it's like, you know what, let's just say it's happening, we just get over the fact, whether it's happening or not, and just say, oh, it's happening, it's already happening, who cares, we don't need to stop it, we now just need to prepare for it, which is still an economic bonanza.
I think it was David Suzuki, and here's the piece I got from this Bill Moyers thing.
Our politicians should be thrown in the slammer for willful blindness.
If we are in a position of being able to act, and we see something going on, and we refuse to acknowledge the threat or act on it, we can be taken to court for willful blindness.
Is that true?
No.
Willful blindness?
Your Honor, what is...
What's the client charged with?
Willful blindness.
What?
I don't think so.
Why is he saying this?
There's a...
There are certain kinds of things that are called...
I can't remember what the term is offhand.
I know that they sentenced six meteorologists in Italy because they didn't communicate the severeness of the earthquake.
There's forms of negligence that you're charged with.
But this is not negligence.
It's not willful blindness.
It's an opinion.
I think this takes a lot of guts to throw these...
First they call them a bunch of denialists, and now they're all criminals, according to this idiot.
I think that we are being willfully blind to the consequences for our children and grandchildren.
It's an intergenerational crime.
It's an intergenerational crime.
This is an interesting little thing you say.
The problem is, if that should happen, if politicians were to be convicted of willful blindness to the fate of the earth in future generations, there would have to be mass arrests and lots more funding for new prisons.
We're not talking about a mere handful of culprits.
It's hard even to know where to start.
It's hard to know where to even listen to you.
That was really weird.
Yeah, no, this is a loss.
These guys are like, I don't know what it is, but it's like madness.
It's insanity, the way they react to this stuff.
Don't be a denier!
The science is in!
Science!
Science!
God, it's just, what was something else I had on?
Nutty Agenda 21 stuff.
Oh, yeah.
I can't play any of the video because you really need the subtitles, but you've seen this...
This video that the O'Keefe guy did, where he...
Quite a sting operation with all these Hollywoods.
it's Ed Begley Jr., Mariel Hemingway, and then the film production couple who run, what is the, I got to get, tell me you know about this.
No.
Oh, you're kidding me.
I might, because I do remember, is it in black and white?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's like talking about something.
Yeah, it's one person after another, they're all saying something.
Well, he says, okay, I represent Arab money.
And they want to fund your anti-fracking movie for $9 million.
But, of course, you can never disclose that this is coming from Middle Eastern oil interests.
And these guys are all in.
They're saying, yeah, no problem.
No, we'll keep this locked up.
We won't tell anybody the source of our money.
We know how to do this, and we know how to run it through non-profits and everything that we always talk about.
It's well worth watching.
It's about 20 minutes.
And of course, take it with a grain of salt of editing, but really, especially Ed Begley Jr., what a dick!
He's all in on everything.
Oh yeah, no, he's a true believer.
He just walks, yeah, whatever, lockstep.
But it's really the, it's the, let me get their names here.
The couple who, they're involved with the, which film festival are they with?
Sundance.
Josh and Rebecca Tickle, T-I-C-K-E-L-L, team known for their environmental movies such as 2008's Fuel, which won an award at Sundance and was later screened at the White House.
Yeah, and these people, they are shameless.
Like, we don't give a crap where the money comes from.
We just want to make a movie.
As long as there's money, we just want to make a movie.
Which really shows you how true Hollywood works.
But there's no clips.
You can't pull any clips because you really have to see it all in context.
But wow, it's great to watch.
Just more douchebags.
But Kerry, no clip of this.
He was at the Cleantech Challenge in Mexico City earlier in the week.
I'm pissed that I couldn't find a video.
He told the audience...
That temperatures in Europe and in Vietnam were unprecedented and have broken every record that's ever been seen!
Huh.
Except for the real record, which was achieved in 1926.
I just hate it when I can't get a video.
These guys are so full of crap, it's astonishing, actually.
And it just never lets up.
But people aren't buying it.
No, I think the public is just too suspicious.
Well, they're doing it wrong.
How many times do I have to say that you've got to find an angle?
You've got to be what the hip kids are doing.
It's got to be about gays.
Gays, yes!
Global warming is killing them.
Maybe killing the gay whales or something.
I don't know.
You've got to come up with some kind of gay angle.
That's what people respond to right now.
At the time being.
I find another interesting little piece of propaganda that was dropped on Charlie Rose.
David Remnick comes on the show, who is the editor-in-chief of the New Yorker magazine.
They don't mention that, but they just say he's from New York.
You don't know whether he's just a writer or not, but he's the editor.
And he's got kind of an interesting background.
He used to be a bureau chief in Moscow for one of the big news agencies and speaks Russian, which seems to be a guy who should know what the hell's going on.
And it just sounds like more of this anti-Putin.
And we've gotten some notes from people saying, you guys sound like you're pro-Putin.
In fact, I said something in Detroit said this too.
And it's like, no, we're not pro-Putin.
We're pro-reality.
In other words, if somebody's trying to set Putin up, or just trying to besmirch him, he's the one who claims it's the Americans that are causing all this trouble in Ukraine, which seems to be the case when you have Victoria Nuland handing out cookies to protesters.
What's she even doing in Ukraine?
And we don't have any famous...
No one except us will say that she's married to Robert Kagan, brother Frederick Kagan, the neocons who got us into Iraq.
No one's telling you that, but that's the answer.
Yeah, and there you have it.
So Putin has to be a straw man in this whole charade, and there's no reason.
I mean, we're not Putin fans.
It's just that we watch this unfold, and somebody's being duped.
Are you peeved that people think we're Putin fans?
I was a little irked by a couple notes we received.
And I was like, what?
Where are you getting that from?
It's because we have questioned authority here, is what we've done.
And let's play David Remnick on Charlie Rosen.
He's all anti-Putin.
So are we in a new co-war?
Well, it's a question of the nature of what the confrontation is going to be and for how long.
It is one thing to try and understand as an intellectual and strategic exercise to understand as Putin sees the world.
It's interesting to do that.
But I think it's also important to call things by their proper name.
What is happening is that Russia has tried, for strategic reasons, to destabilize a country to itself.
Because in opposition to the West, but also in opposition to the leadership of Ukraine.
Do you think the person you admire greatly, the President of the United States, is up to the challenge?
I think...
I think they were taken by surprise.
Which is a problem.
It is.
I think they were taken by surprise by the vehemence of this action.
I know for a fact from reporting, I'm trying to do a longer piece on U.S.-Russia relations and the history of just what you're describing.
There were people in the Situation Room who many months ago said, you know, it is not entirely unthinkable that Russia will take Crimea.
But I don't think Russia was high on the priority list of foreign subjects in the White House.
By any stretch of the imagination.
Not with Syria around.
Not with getting out of...
Particularly getting out of Iraq and Afghanistan.
That's what dominated things.
The so-called pivot to Asia.
And the continuing concern about terrorism wherever it was.
The primary actor in this...
In the malevolent sense, in my view, is Vladimir Putin.
Now, I am hoping I am hoping...
Now, he's taken Crimea and he's destabilized the East to a great degree.
I hope there's some backing off.
I'm hoping that Sunday's election in Ukraine goes well.
It seems to me for Russia to call Ukraine fascist is preposterous.
Fascist countries don't call democratic elections.
Oh, my God.
It doesn't happen.
And that's what's meant to happen on Sunday.
The likely victor is problematic.
This is Petroshenko, who's known as the Chocolate King.
But he's an oligarch.
Ukraine has been terribly served by its leadership since 1991.
Corrupt on the left, right and center.
I don't want to say that Ukraine is not the Czech Republic of Poland.
They have been very unlucky in their leaders and very unlucky in their politics for now a generation.
But if they're going to make it back, things are not going to be improved by the strong hand of Vladimir Putin from the North.
Tell me about the sexuality.
It's in your DNA. Now, go out and burn the New York Magazine.
What a dick.
Well, it was obviously a script, or a perspective that is essentially a script, but it's the same thing.
And the way it's almost rewriting the Maidan thing, which is what the Europeans pushed, promoted, which is the revolution that got the corrupt ruler kicked out.
Who was democratically elected.
Who was democratically elected.
And this idea that a Nazi state or a fascist state never has an election is nonsense.
Hitler was elected.
Yes, by great popular vote, I might point out.
Mussolini was elected.
So I don't know where he comes up with that one.
Now, Bloomberg had an interview with Russian Foreign Secretary Lavrov.
Who speaks very proficient English.
Yes.
And he had a couple of things to say about the parliament as it will be chosen in Ukraine.
Can somebody guarantee to us that the current coalition would not embrace neonatists like they do now?
Now, the thing, if I were to advise him, I would say, work on the pronunciation of Nazis.
Don't say neo-Nazis.
It doesn't sound right.
It doesn't have the same impact.
No.
But he means to say neo-Nazis.
Embrace neo-Nazis, like they do now.
The Swoboda Party was elected to the Ukrainian parliament in December 2012.
At that time, the European Union protested, and just like in the case of Mr.
Haider, election in Austria, they said no one in Ukraine, in Ukrainian politics, should cooperate with this Swoboda Party.
Now this gentleman and his party is a member of the coalition supported by the West.
Promoting anti-Russian, anti-Semitic statements publicly in the parliament.
And the lady from that party named Faryon, who is in charge of educational reform, applauded what happened in Odessa.
So I believe we have to start not from artificial hypothetical questions whether somebody would be invading something, but by the substance of how people are going to feel in any country on earth.
And we know that Victoria Nuland, strike that, Noodleman, and John McCain were photographed with the leader of the Sabota party, as they were, you know, and of course she mentioned it in her famous F the EU phone call.
And there's a little more to that story according to Sergei Lavrov.
Not to support fascists and neo-nazists.
And not to support the government, which has as part of it a neo-nazist party.
Yes, the other thing which I wanted to, you know, get a response from Washington was these reports about a secret visit of the right sector coordinator Art Termenko to Washington for alleged meetings with Victoria Nuland.
And we want answers to these questions because it's too serious to manipulate events in Europe across the Atlantic.
Maybe it's not a remote control game, you know.
Yeah, it is.
Exactly what it is.
Noodleman secret meetings, huh?
Noodleman.
Yeah, we missed out on that one.
Yeah, well, thank you.
Drops these little bombs expecting the media to pick it up, and of course, the Russians must be beside themselves when they say, nobody paid any attention to this.
We told him, but no, no, no.
Putin was asked an interesting question by CNBC on some panel the other day.
He said we're a room full of adults, so let's have an adult conversation.
President Obama has accused you, as you know, of untruths when it comes to supporting some of the separatist groups in the Ukraine.
Who is he to judge?
Who is he to judge?
Seriously.
If he wants to judge people, why don't he get a job in court somewhere?
Who?
Go get a job, Obama.
In a court somewhere.
If you want to judge.
But he says it with such a funny smile.
Yeah, well, I think any country that is in turmoil and in effect has a form of civil war taking place, if you have Ukrainians killing Ukrainians, you know, they might want to consider postponing a vote.
It's just not a good thing to do in general.
But okay, it's being pushed ahead.
Georgia, Moldova, and we have one more.
They're signing their key EU association pact on the 27th.
Now, it's all coming together.
And, of course, now the South Stream pipeline is cranking up to avoid gas transit via Ukraine.
I mean, it's just a big game and it's about nothing more than oil, gas, money, turf.
As usual.
But no one's talking about it right now.
Who cares?
I mean, we've got...
They're not even talking about the Brussels shootings.
This will only be about Obama in Afghanistan, which of course is a setup to distract.
I think also...
This is the moment where we, you know, it's a weekend.
It's a lazy weekend.
Nobody wants to work.
So, you know, it all makes sense.
Except, oh yeah, us.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
Today's like a holiday for everybody but us.
Also, the mines in Turkey, the hundreds of dead miners, the collapse of the...
Yeah, how has you been following the...
Yeah, this is really...
Of course, we have a Turkish vote coming up as well, and this is really hurting Erdogan.
He's being called criminal negligence.
almost makes you wonder well yeah I think that we're behind that, too.
That guy does have to go.
It's not hard to...
Collapse of mind, really.
The stabilization.
We're outstanding at it.
And since we were busted for it so many, you know, in the 50s, especially when the CIA was doing it to these little Asian countries and even some places in South America, and they continued botching jobs and it became apparent who was behind it all.
You get good at it when you do it for so long, and pretty soon you're not even in the picture.
No one mentions the CIA. No.
No.
So somebody's doing...
I mean, they mentioned the State Department.
Yeah.
Because the Noodlemen, but that's...
On the snow job front, we have Brian Williams promoting his upcoming interview.
A lot of people would say you have badly damaged your country.
Have you performed, as you see it, a public service?
No.
You'll be able to see and hear him tell his story, including a lot we have not heard before.
And as you will see and hear, Edward Snowden has a lot more to say.
Big interview on Wednesday, so probably Tuesday night they'll be throwing out clips.
No idea what's going to happen there.
I did see a very interesting note as we've been, you know, I keep paying attention to first look media and, you know, the fact that kind of nothing's coming out there and Greg Green, well done, Raph.
He's running around America doing, as you said, speaking gigs everywhere.
Probably picking.
Do you think he's 25k a pop for him or more?
Well, you know, I find it hard to believe that he'd get more.
I mean, it's possible that he can get 50, but for the most part, I'm guessing 10 to 25.
Really?
He's a prize winner now.
Yeah, and he should be getting 50.
But generally speaking, journalists and this sort of speaker, the guys who get the big dough are the ex-politicians.
And they get big dough.
I think Clinton goes for a quarter of a million.
Oh yeah, 250 and the jet.
And the hotel.
Free jet ride.
And probably a hooker.
Or two.
These other guys are big CEOs.
They can get, you know, 25 is a good amount of money for talking for an hour.
I think Grant Griewell, he's going to be disappointed.
He really believes that this movie is getting made.
Just because someone has optioned the movie doesn't necessarily mean that it's going to get made or that you'll ever see any money from it.
The WikiLeaks movie has killed his movie.
Yeah.
Because you know how these guys are in the meetings, and they're just going to say, well, we can't do it.
Because it's until somebody shows us that this is viable as a topic.
And the government's going to tell them not to do it.
Now, here's what was interesting.
Big announcement about First Look Media on Tuesday announced it will give $550,000 to support three organizations.
The Reporters Committee for Freedom of the Press will get a $100,000 grant.
The EFF, Electronic Frontier Foundation, will get a $100,000 grant.
And the Freedom of the Press Foundation will receive a $350,000 grant, which of course is the...
The one Greenwald's in.
Yeah, the one that he started with Poitras, which actually is not even there.
I forget now who it is, but it doesn't even go to them.
They're like a subsidiary, and ultimately it winds up in Mother Jones.
It might, but I bet Greenwald gets a piece of this.
But I bet she gets a piece of this.
This is hush money.
This is shut-up money.
I'm sorry, man.
Hey, man, I'm sorry it didn't work out.
Yeah, so we'll see, you know, who knows?
And you get Mother Jones, you want to get to Mother Jones, so Mother Jones, which is a cynical operation, they write some pretty good stuff.
They're not going to write anything negative now.
Nope.
This is corruption.
Why is Mother Jones taking money from an operation like this?
From a media office.
They'll never write a negative piece about him because he just bought them off.
This is the problem with the media today, which is why we keep telling people that you have to listen to No Agenda because this is not the way we do business.
We can't.
And there's a, this is, thank you.
Exactly right.
I had one little thing, just to wrap up Snowden.
In America, we have this weird tradition, which seems to be getting more prevalent.
When we have graduation from colleges, you want to get some kind of prominent figure to do the commencement speech.
And it can be almost anybody.
Of course, you want to have a Joe Biden or you want to have Barack Obama or Steve Jobs or, you know, whatever.
But Pomona College had Valerie Jarrett, who, of course, is the real president of America.
And you would do yourself a disservice by not going to the show notes and taking a look at the entire commencement speech because it is so poor.
She didn't go to this.
This is not even her alma mater.
This is not her college.
But people get off on it because you get an honorary doctorate.
You get to wear the gown.
You get to crack jokes.
But I think it's the honorary doctor.
Someone asked me, are you going to give me a degree?
Yeah.
Hell yeah, I'll come and speak.
Yeah, they don't pay him.
No, no pay.
Jill, of course, Abramson, was at the Wake Forest giving her speech, and I have a little clip of it.
It's called Skipping Jill because I just tried to find something interesting, and so I kept hitting the fast-forward button, and here's what you get out of this speech.
I'm impressed that your achievements have attracted so much media attention.
As well they should.
Just so we know, she is the recently fired executive editor?
Yeah, executive editor of the New York Times.
By the way, I didn't notice until I saw this, she can't be over 4'10".
I have no idea.
Is it on her wiki page?
No.
Someone needs to add it.
We need the height on the wiki page.
As well they should.
With Pride 5 and others in the audience.
My sister called me today.
Something you badly want.
I got the message.
You do.
Yeah, this is remarkably similar to the way I listened to her commencement speech.
But I did actually get a clip from Valerie Jarrett.
And by the way, here's how it works.
Here's how these commencement speeches work.
Someone gives you the inside jokes.
You know, like, oh, well, if you're looking for the toilet bowl on top of the flagpole, you know, don't ask Pete.
You know, it's stuff that happened.
Right, stuff that locals all know is funny.
I think it's funny.
So she cannot deliver a line.
She cannot deliver a line.
Most people can't.
It's really, really shit the way she does this commencement speech.
If you can't deliver a line, I always tell people who do a lot of public speech, if you're not funny, don't try to be funny.
If you're not funny and you're not funny, then you're not funny.
If when you're trying to be funny and you're not funny ever, don't try to be funny because then people won't like you.
Here is the piece that I found interesting from Valerie Jarrett, advisor with her own Secret Service detail to the President and the First Lady, the true President of the United States.
But also remember that before I hire anybody, I always check out everything that they've been doing online.
And believe me, we have ways of finding out everything you've been doing online.
That was actually funnier than I intended it to be.
Yeah, hilarious.
She blows that in two ways.
One, she got her laugh...
Right at the initial initiation of the joke.
Which means you're done.
You don't have to now explain the joke because you've got to laugh, you idiot.
So she adds on to it.
Because it was written down so she figured she might as well say it, I guess.
I don't know.
And then she was so proud of herself that she meted herself.
She looked back on what she did.
All huge amateur blunders.
No.
But also, these jokes...
About spying?
It's not funny.
Not funny.
It's not funny.
It's like this one.
I have two words for you.
Predator drones.
You know, it's just not funny.
It's not funny.
When you're actually spying on people.
By the way, of course we know now that the NSA is useless.
If you've got this kid who's posting these videos, I'm going to go kill women.
I hate women.
I'm going to kill the guys that they make love to.
I'm going to kill, kill, kill.
Here's my name.
I'm going to kill.
Hello, where's the NSA saving us from the lone wolves?
This is a huge problem.
We've talked about it on the show.
The NSA has a lot of issues because they couldn't stop the Boston bombers.
And now this, when the guy is way out on it, he's like saying it all over the place and nobody's noticed.
And law enforcement went and visited him multiple times.
There you have it.
So I'm no longer worried.
They have no idea.
They're not doing anything.
No, they're for one reason and one reason only.
Advertising.
Advertising.
And blackmail.
And advertising.
Something we know nothing about.
I'm going to show my support by donating to No Agenda.
Imagine all the people who could do that.
Oh yeah, that'd be fun.
We're on No Agenda in the morning.
We got to run through this, John.
I can't.
Okay, then take your time.
But we're just going to have to go a little long today because, again, I apologize to everybody.
It was my screw-up in the last...
It's okay.
It was PayPal's problem, believe me.
So my phone's on $150 for South Plainfield, New Jersey.
Let me just say one thing, John.
Seriously.
We're a two-man team.
We have Eric helping us out for an hour a week.
It happens.
This is what we do.
And I think still, considering that we're just a performance artist, I think we do pretty good.
Yael Asowski, from Gitmo Nation, Wienerschnitzel, also known as Vienna, Austria.
He said, I had to read this.
A good day, gents.
This is a spinner donation.
When the spinning instructors dropped World Trade Center Tower 7 in the middle of his normal German warm-up diatribe, I knew I had to donate.
And he wants to call out Aaron Briggs as a douchebag for not donating.
Should have been highlighted.
Sir Frank Agenstadt in Victoria, Australia, 124.
By the way, the Osowski was 133.99 from St.
Petersburg, Florida.
Sir Frank Agenstadt 12462 in Armandale, Australia.
James Murray, one, two, three, five, six, which is odd and from Houston.
Jeff Smith, an alternative Jeff Smith.
Not the Jeff Smith.
Not the Jeff Smith, but a Jeff Smith.
And he sent in a long note, which I read, it's very, I don't even know where it is now.
Here it is.
Let me just take a look at it.
This was a mail-in donation.
Okay, that's Craig from Omaha.
We'll get to that maybe.
We should almost make it a feature of the second donation segment where we try not to really stop too much and read because we just don't have the time and we don't want to give as much content as possible.
Maybe if people start sending in checks, which saves us money, maybe that's the only stuff we should read.
I don't know.
Maybe.
Maybe not.
We ad-libbed this one.
Thanks for the meeting.
All right.
It was a meeting.
We're done.
That's the meeting.
I'll get some donuts.
That's right.
He just says a lot of things.
It's very interesting.
No, it's a little long.
But he does want to shout out to his brothers, Gene and Bill.
They're great brothers, and I wouldn't be me without them.
Since they hit me in the mouth, they deserve special mention.
And everyone else, you know who you are.
If you want your name on this show, then I challenge you to donate.
There you go.
Right on.
That was the other Jeff Smith from Sarasota.
$111.11.
Matthew Slaughter in Holland, Michigan.
$100.01.
I assume there's Dutch people there.
Yeah, I guess.
In Holland, Michigan.
Brandon Rowles in Pontiac, Michigan.
We had a lot of...
He has a douchebag call-up.
Yeah, he is a douchebag.
This is some weird programming that even I can't get this out of you.
I don't know what that is.
Ian.
Six years.
Ian.
Forget about it.
100 bucks.
Rick Olson, Ellensburg, Washington.
100 bucks.
James Butcher, Dal Walenew in Western Australia.
99.99.
Hello?
Yeah, I'm sorry.
I'm looking here.
I see the gardener.
He's outside your house?
Well, we only had the guy come once in a while, and we'd forgotten to call him before we left, and so we came home.
We were like one of those abandoned houses.
Oh, by the way, my truck got broken into.
I forgot to mention that.
I'm lying!
Completely ripped open the whole dash to get my radio.
Oh, please!
Yeah.
Of the truck.
It's just a shitty-ass radio.
Hard up to steal a radio from a beat-up truck.
But they didn't steal it.
I guess they got interrupted.
But the whole...
Everything was trashed on the inside.
The whole dash was ripped off.
Oh, that's a shame.
I hate it.
Anyway, so in the garden, Mickey said, well, can I have him come by too?
And he's always late.
I said, yeah, well, we'll be done by then.
But I'd forgotten we had the extra long donation segment.
And of course, now he's on time.
But it's okay.
I don't hear a thing.
No, he doesn't start it yet.
But if he does, then it's all right.
We'll deal.
Computer Solutions and Services, $91.30.
No big deal.
From God knows where.
But just CSS. Chardik van de Kran.
In Juppil, Nice, Belgium.
Tjardik van der Kraan.
Kraan.
Yeah.
7373.
There you go.
7373.
Mm-hmm.
73s, everybody, yeah.
James Smith, Ottawa, Ontario, 70 bucks.
Jonathan Diggle, Winnipeg, Manitoba, 6969.
So was enough.
Yep.
69, 69.
He's in Warsaw, Indiana, of all places.
Bob Wassenaar.
Very good.
In Utrecht.
Utrecht.
Utrecht.
68, 38.
Yeah, the only reason we have so many Dutch listeners is because of me.
Yeah.
Samuel, originally it was because of you, but now they think I'm hilarious.
Yeah.
Oh, look at the way he pronounces that.
He's an idiot.
That's true.
Samuel Hopkins, Calora, Maryland, 6666.
Nicholas Principe in Raleigh, North Carolina, 6190.
He's one of the few people that thanks us for doing this show on the road instead of the people who go, you know, why don't you just take some time off?
Anyway.
David Hassan in Brooklyn, New York.
Oh, I'm sorry.
You're welcome.
I'm sorry.
6190.
I forgot to hit the mute button.
Do you have a cough button?
Otherwise I'll buy you one.
No, I have one.
Oh, do you now?
Yeah.
Andre Adams in Nashville, Tennessee, 60-20.
James Moore in San Pablo, California, out of the street from me.
He has been listening since episode 500, and now he's finally decided he's giving up, and he's giving us some help.
60.
Anonymous in Albany, New York, 60.
Anonymous in Jarfala, Sweden, 50.
$59.99.
Raymond Bressler in Arlington, Washington, $59.59.
Christopher Gray, $55.55 in Abita Springs, Louisiana.
I'm sorry.
James Murray in Huntington Beach, which is a pleasant place in California.
And now we have, let's see, what did he say?
He said, turning a new mean double nickels on the 33.
It's not really...
It's like missing the point.
It's funny, though, if you think about it.
Francis Lambert.
Now, we asked for specific Double Nichols on the Dime because it was an easy donation I created.
So we have a bunch of them.
We have one through about ten.
Francis Lambert and Zabok.
Croatia.
This is nice.
We love the Croatians.
Sexy women.
I went to Dubrovnik once and stayed in some fancy hotel in an old army and I had the weirdest dreams ever.
Really?
Yeah.
It's haunted or something.
Do you care to share?
Well, it essentially was just, I was a soldier.
It was very vivid dreaming.
I was a soldier fighting God knows what or why.
I never could figure it out, but I do know I had a creepy feeling when I woke up.
But this is also kind of your roots around that area, right?
The Slavic roots of the Dvorak's?
I don't think Croatia would qualify.
Close.
It's closer than California.
Well, yeah.
That's true.
I had a creepy dream.
Oh, yeah?
What?
Miss Mickey is so awesome.
She's going to go out and tell the gardener not to mow.
I had a dream...
That it was about Sir Mark.
Then he was in a meeting, and I was like Lucille Ball trying to make the coffee machine, but the coffee machine was spouting water all over the place.
I was trying to plug the holes with all my different fingers.
It was a comedy dream?
It was a comedy dream with Sir Mark from Tokyo.
We really have comedy dreams.
Josh Harbaugh in...
I just got to tell Mickey it's okay.
Go ahead.
Josh Harbo, 5510, Liberty Township, Ohio.
These are all 5510s.
James Chesney, Brownston, Michigan.
Sir Daniel Hutner in Mountain Ranch, California.
Ben Blessing in Surrey Hills, New South Wales.
Christopher O'Brien, Brighton, Massachusetts.
Nuts.
Dame Beth Borosin in Tucson, Arizona.
Nicholas Nilsson in Gislavd, Gislavd.
Swede in double nickels on the dime.
Julie Lustig in Livonia, Michigan.
A lot of Michiganians.
Thank you, Michigan.
John Owen in Mesa, Arizona.
Another Arizonan.
Steven Yarish in Wakefield, Massachusetts.
James French in Pike Road, Alabama.
Mark Megpio in Cerritos, California.
And finally, Andy Benz in St.
Louis, Missouri.
And Charles Hickman in Oklahoma City.
Then we go on to Donald Devine in Claremont, Florida, $55.
Jay Kenyon, $5353 in Morayfield, Queensland.
I probably didn't pronounce that correctly.
I got something for him on the birthday list.
Sean DeSantis.
Yeah, he's going to be birthdayed out.
Sean DeSantis in Fort Pierce, Florida, $53.30.
And then the rest of these are $50 donors, including Donald Gauguin in Westminster, Massachusetts.
Macek Stolowski.
Always on with $50.
Always.
Always on.
He's commonly in at Calgary, Alberta, where all the money is.
James Wolgamuth in Everett, Washington.
Jason Daniels, Dallas, Texas.
T. Abel in Bergfield, Berkshire, UK. Eric Veet in Dublin, California.
Robert Ryan, Byrne, Texas.
I'm guessing that's how you pronounce it.
Roger Grigsby, Santa Cruz, California.
Martin Van Gallenlast.
Ha ha ha.
Martijn van Galenlast.
Exactly.
Benenden Lewin.
Yeah, Benenden Lewin.
I saw it even close.
Sebastian Alscher in Frankfurt, Deutschland.
Aaron and Eric Zempel in Boondocks, Michigan.
I don't know how to...
They're the ones...
That's the couple where he's working in the city.
She's out at the house outside of the town in a big farm where they grow eggs and heritage...
They grow eggs?
Yeah, they grow eggs.
Heritage.
It's cool.
Turkeys.
How do you grow eggs?
And she's got goats.
Do turkeys lay eggs?
Yeah, of course they do.
But they're turkey tasting.
I don't know what turkey eggs taste like.
I've never been offered a turkey egg.
Well...
Yeah, obviously they have to.
Must taste like poop.
Whatever the case is, there's a great couple.
And in the meetup, everyone got all jacked up about getting a heritage turkey, but she's already sold out for this year.
But next year, it's going to be a good group that forms Michigan.
Very communal.
Good old David Trotsky in Romeoville, Illinois, who had trouble when he was raised as a kid with the name Trotsky.
I don't see why.
Benjamin Smith in Oakland, California, which I can wave to him from here.
Sir Mark Tanner in Whittier, California.
And finally, Craig Dennison in Omaha, Nebraska.
And Craig sent a long note in that's handwritten.
And he says, I have to read this.
This donation comes from my very first paycheck.
So he just finally got paid in seven years.
Wow.
Wow.
How old do you think he is?
Probably, I'm guessing he's probably in his 30s, late 30s.
So he's been unemployed for seven years?
That's what it says.
Well, it isn't much value for value that I can get from the show, but compared to what I get from the show, I've been listening from the beginning.
I hope that it shows that I appreciate the work that you do, that you guys put into the show.
I don't ask for a de-douchey, nor I wish to pressure other listeners to donate.
We all contribute in our own ways, even if it's merely bringing up a point from the show with others.
Absolutely true.
I'm giving him a de-douchey no matter what.
He deserves that.
I'm going to give him a karma as well.
You've got de-douched.
You've got karma.
Why not?
Seven years, first thing he does is contribute to the show?
Wow.
Yeah.
I'm going to keep my notes as some stuff showed up at the house here, but that'll keep for Thursday.
It's not that time-sensitive, but some really cool stuff to talk about.
I do have one.
We got Sir Mark Tanner, who you just donated, but he sent a separate note.
He said, could I possibly get an F-cancer karma for myself?
Fighting the battle in every bit helps.
These are not good notes.
I don't like hearing these things.
No, no, especially not from our regulars.
But for our knights, of course.
You've got karma.
Absolutely.
Alright.
That was very long, of course, because it was a double.
And some people, and it is kind of cute and highly appreciated, saying, oh, I got a karma, I got a credit, but it was unwarranted, so I'm donating again.
Yeah, we've seen that from the beginning.
It's always, yeah, it is very cute.
So I think that probably...
You just start thanking people randomly.
If you want an executive producership, probably Thursday will be a good show for you.
Yes, after this long segment, everyone goes, ah, these guys are rolling in dough.
Fuck them.
All right.
Yeah.
Dvorak.org slash N-A.
It's your birthday, birthday.
I don't know what you want.
And we kick it off with Sir Gene Neftulia, who celebrates on the 26th.
That'll be tomorrow, Memorial Day.
And, of course, he is now the Earl of Texas.
Anonymous says happy birthday to G-Flex from the People's Regulator and family.
And Jake Kenyon congratulates his dad, Jeff.
53 is what he turned on the 20th of May.
Happy birthday from all your buddies here at the Best Podcast in the Universe!
Then we have the titles, of course.
Sir Gene F. Tulia becomes Earl of Texas.
Sir Nate Wilson, now a baronet.
And we have two knightings to do, so I'd like to grab the swords.
You can hear the NSA gardeners here.
Yeah, okay, here we go.
I can't hear it.
Go on.
Don't worry.
John Grumling, step forward, along with John Strage.
Both of you have supported the best podcast in the universe in the amount of $1,000 or more, and therefore I probably pronounce the Knights of the Noah General Roundtable, and I crown thee Sir Reddy Kilowatt and Sir Stregalicious!
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And go to noagendanation.com slash rings and pick up your well-deserved night ring.
You sure you can?
I can hear it.
I can hear it in the background.
No.
I hear nothing.
Here's a little...
Again, thank you to everyone who donated.
Also below the $50 level.
But here's a little trick about the best podcast in the universe.
We use noise gates for both the Skype and for my microphone because neither of us really have a real studio.
And if it was just, if it was open all the time, you'd hear all this background noise, you'd hear stuff driving by, and it's very distracting.
And of course, this is a professional way to solve that.
It's with a noise gate.
But when you have a loud noise, like a leaf blower or lawnmower...
Yeah, it assumes it's real...
It kind of ruins the idea.
Yeah.
But...
But I don't hear it.
No, but he's now...
It's alright.
Miss Mickey was out there, like, giving him shit.
I said, no, don't worry about it.
Don't worry, these guys.
And also, I want to thank Armando, the mailman.
Mail carrier.
Postal carrier.
Once again, just takes care of...
The postal engineer.
Postal, yes.
Paper communications engineer.
He made sure that our mail was withheld and not...
Yeah, no, that's a good thing.
Yeah.
And I don't...
But, you know, it's like, I don't have to send, you know, call the post office.
It just happens.
It's beautiful.
And you know, the mailman knows everything that's going on in the neighborhood.
They have...
They know everything.
So I ran into this clip, and I'm wondering if you know about the McDonald's protests and all the people that are on strike.
I mean, talk about something that's been, at least I didn't see it in the local news.
I mean, maybe you did.
I happen to know about it because Miss Mickey and I were contacted by the Ronald McDonald House charity here in Austin, which has very little to do with Ronald McDonald anymore.
But the first thing was, I'm like, oh, I had to look into it, you know me.
There's very little involvement.
And then you run across all...
Yeah, I got filters set up.
And then you run across all this McDonald's stuff.
Yeah, there's stuff going on with them, for sure.
This is...
I just played this clip, but I'm going to say this is a good example of why our show is a little different than the mainstream media.
This is suppressed.
And we're going to finish off with a look at McDonald's.
Shareholders have approved a multi-million dollar pay package for Chief Executive Don Thompson.
This despite strikes and protests that forced the fast food giant to temporarily close its headquarters this week.
Workers are demanding that their minimum wage be doubled to about $15 an hour.
Thompson told investors that he respected the protesters, but he insisted that McDonald's does pay competitive wages and offers real career paths.
Those protests have been sweeping through McDonald's, not just in the United States, but around the world.
Workers at that chain clearly very frustrated at their working conditions, and I think we'll be hearing more from them.
Now, this was on France 24.
Career opportunities, John.
Yeah.
Well, what's happened, of course, is people can't get out of McDonald's.
I mean, McDonald's is always one of those stepping stone jobs, because you're out of work for a while, so you take a McDonald's job until you get something good, and then you quit and go to someplace else, and that was always the idea, and that's how fast food chains kind of developed, knowing that they could get all these cheap employees for just working for a little bit, because it's not like a job you have to be highly trained.
And that's not working out because people can't find work and so now McDonald's has got to pay a real wage so they can live without starving to death because it was just pin money essentially.
But this is not being reported on at all.
It's a scandal.
And you're surprised by this so-called scandal?
No, but it's actually a great example of it.
And McDonald's, of course, being a major multi-billion dollar advertiser.
You're never going to hear about this story.
Now, I was listening to C-SPAN, and the guy who wrote This Town, which I believe you read...
Yeah, the...
Yes.
I forget his name.
The New York Times journalist who wrote...
Right.
He had a little thing.
He apparently got to...
He was at a book fair.
You didn't read this?
Because it's a good read.
It's a fun book to read.
He says it's a how-to book if you look at it objectively.
Yeah.
Basically, open mouth, insert penis, and you can work in Washington.
So this is the history of where he got the idea to do the book.
He discusses this.
I don't know if it's discussed in the book.
But he was at the Tim Russert funeral.
Yeah, that's where the Clintons showed up.
Yeah, and here's what he has to say about it.
It's a very interesting little issue.
That's actually the opening of the book.
He gets to express it.
...in 2008, in June, at the Kennedy Center, and was just watching the thing degenerate into a cocktail party, and just watching all of the mafia families, the Clintons, the Obamas, the McCains, the Bushes, the media, the lobbyists, the Democrats, the Republicans, everyone sort of coming in to pay respects,
But ultimately watching from the aisles of the Kennedy Center, people throwing business cards around, people trying to book the Clintons on their MSNBC shows that night, people angling for the next big job.
It became a very, very self-conscious spectacle.
And at that moment, I knew that we had reached a tipping point.
We in Washington had reached a tipping point of the kind of maybe self-regard, self-celebration that has grown up here versus, you know, what was actually a very, very solemn ceremony for a beloved newsman.
And from that point on, I started taking notes and doing a bunch of interviews and scaring a lot of people.
Anyway, that's what he goes on.
I have a question.
Did you find Tim Russert to be such an awesome newsman?
No.
I didn't either.
I mean, he was okay, but not like, you know, like, oh, he was the best.
He asked the questions.
People were afraid of him.
Really?
Well, he's definitely better than Chip.
Yeah.
Or the other guy, the old man.
He's like, he's going to be ageist about it, but he's completely out of touch.
Yeah.
A lot of interesting little screwball stories.
This is a shorty here I want to play.
This is a little suburb of the Bay Area.
It's actually a big suburb.
It's a consolidation of a bunch of little towns.
And this is the future of the United States as far as I'm concerned.
This is the Fremont police state.
Struggle.
Fremont police want to go high tech to help fight crime.
Next month, the department will ask the city council to approve community-based surveillance cameras and license plate readers.
Police want as many as a dozen installed at key entry and exit points along the city's borders.
Residents can comment on the project through the city's website.
Yeah, of course it is.
That's where we're all headed.
Yeah, yeah.
License plate readers.
Are you trying to bum me out with this?
Don't do this.
Okay, well then I got a better one.
Here's Hillary.
Okay.
This is one of her first speeches after her brain damage.
You mean this is an old speech?
No, this is new.
This is a fairly new speech.
She's done a lot of speeches since the...
Yeah, I know, but this is the only one I have on camera.
But wait, you're confusing me now.
Why do you say brain damage when we know she had a facelift?
Okay, I'm just, well, brain damage is the other theory.
Whatever the case, I'm mistaken with the, I don't know what happened.
Ah!
Hillary on internships, now, she has a, this is, she's talking, this is bullshit.
This is her speech.
By the way, her public speaking really is deteriorated.
She still talks with one word at a time, but it's a little more run together, and she's lost all emotion.
I think she's on some drug or something.
In fact, you skipped this clip.
No, I want to hear it.
No.
No.
First, play the other clip, which is Hillary blabbering, and tell me what she says.
That I could go back to what I had been doing, but unfortunately, it was going back to where we had been in some respects 30, 40 years ago, rather than picking up the pace of where we had moved toward.
Yeah.
I was very struck by how difficult it was for so many children to be successful in school despite all the education reform that we have done and experimented with over a very long time now.
I need some context, but this is called Losing the Plot.
I mean, it does happen.
Sometimes you're in an interview situation.
No, this is a speech.
This is a speech?
Yes.
But resist.
We must.
We must.
And we will much.
No, this is a speech.
This is not an interview.
It's got no emotion.
You can play the other part.
I want to.
This is the other part of the speech.
It's no emotion.
She's flat as a pancake.
And in this case, you have to listen to this near the end.
Wow.
She does one of those inappropriate nervous laughs in the middle of the sentence, which I thought was creepy.
Most of the young people who complete this program go on to become full-time Gap employees.
Or consider Corning, a glass manufacturer headquartered in upstate New York, famous for supplying the scratch-resistant Gorilla Glass for the iPhone.
Corning knows that to stay on the cutting edge, they need a steady pipeline of high-skill talent.
So they've invested in internships that help students explore careers in science, technology, engineering and mathematics, the so-called STEM fields.
And they're providing on-the-job apprenticeships in their factories.
So, at the Clinton Global Initiative's annual CGI America conference in Denver next month, we're assembling a network of businesses like Gap and Corning willing to step up, expanding hiring, training, mentoring, hopefully to create a virtuous ripple throughout the economy.
Hoping to create...
She laughs right after she says hoping.
Well, you know, it happens.
Maybe she's just had a bad day.
I don't know.
This whole thing is nonsense.
The internships and all the rest of it.
When I was a kid and there was a steel mill and you wanted to work in the steel mill, they trained you.
Yeah.
They didn't expect you to come out.
I'm a steel mill expert.
So this is not a new idea.
Corning.
They're hiring people and then training.
Yeah.
Duh.
How many people know how to work in a glass manufacturing facility?
Nobody.
Anyway, I got one more clip, and then you can clip, clip, clip out.
I know you're getting tired.
I'm okay.
I mean, you know what?
First of all, I really enjoy talking to you.
Second of all, I do.
This makes my marriage work.
And my wife concurs.
And I have a feeling yours might too.
Because, you know, you're not constantly saying, ah, look at this bull crap!
I can't believe this shit!
You know, we actually have nice...
Amy does.
She's always doing that because she doesn't listen to our show anymore.
Why doesn't she listen?
She brought something up last night at dinner.
She's going on rattling off about something.
Wait a minute.
Are you up there?
Is she down there?
Everyone's down here.
Oh, okay, cool.
So she's prattling about something.
We talked about this in the show a month ago.
You should listen to the show.
We've already deconstructed the crap out of this thing you noticed.
And also, I got a really nice note from her.
She said, hey, Eric told me via John that you mentioned...
What's the stuff that I take for my...
Some crazy stuff you've taken in.
She looked it up.
I said, you should try this because it had something to do.
I was looking it up, I guess.
And it does something about arthritis and rosacea and a bunch of it.
And for some reason I've completely blanked on the name now.
She lost a bottle.
Anyway, what the hell is that stuff called?
You'll think of it later.
But anyway, she sends me a note and I'm like, wow, you should listen to the show.
Sometimes we have these gems.
There's all kinds of stuff.
The show's valuable.
But why is it, do you think?
Is she just tired of it?
You know what I really think?
I don't think she can get her iPod to work right.
She won't automatically download, and then when she tries to do it manually because iTunes is such a piece of crap, I think she just gave up on the effort.
Maybe you can just have someone install.
I mean, we have so many apps, and the app is really handy.
You can just click on the app and it's there.
It does all that stuff for you.
Yeah, but I think it's frustration with iTunes, to be honest about it.
Because when I give her discs, I'll make discs for her and she'll listen to them in the car while driving around and she's fine with that, but she can't get this thing to download, I guess.
I don't know.
Okay, well, do you mind if I intervene because I think there's an embarrassment factor here?
And I understand it.
I'm sure she's embarrassed that she can't get it to work.
Do you mind if I just reach out to her and see if I can...
Quercetin, that's what it was.
Quercetin.
Yeah, Quercetin.
Which I use for everything.
John says you can't get it.
No, no, no.
I'll play it cool.
Mimi's really...
She's into a lot of this stuff.
And she's...
She has opinions, and she used to send me notes from time to time, and all of that's gone.
I think it's iTunes.
I think we probably could be doing much better in terms of market penetration for listeners if iTunes wasn't such a piece of crap.
Yeah, let's have a meeting about that.
No.
Of course, in every show notes on the front page, you can find it at archive.noagendanotes.com or nasownotes.com or noagendashow.com is really the easiest.
All the links are there.
I've got to work on that, too.
This is part of my mission for the coming few weeks as we're not traveling.
I'm going to work a bit on just the links of stuff that's pointing to other things.
There's always a list of places you can get it.
You can get it through BitTorrent Sync, which is very popular.
It's still beta, but that is, in my opinion, the future of media distribution.
There's regular BitTorrent, which I think through BitTorrent Love or whatever still works.
Of course, there's the podcast feed.
You can direct download.
You can play right there.
I mean, there's lots of ways to get it.
But I will work a little bit on...
I think the apps are good for people like Mimi.
Because when you have...
The podcast app is not great.
When Apple got that, people were used to getting it on iTunes and then shifted the podcast app and had problems in the beginning.
You lose a lot of...
Yeah, I think that's when it began for her.
That makes sense.
You lose so many people just in that transition.
Even for me, I'm trying to load stuff up.
I have this Android tablet, which I'm still using.
I'm still impressed with it.
Certainly the battery life.
The Nexus 7, I think.
But I'm using Dog Catcher.
Wow!
What a piece of crap!
It's really complicated.
It's not very simple.
It has all kinds of buttons.
Wow!
Just make it work.
Yeah, yeah, well, those days are over.
Whereas I just use the BitTorrent Sync app on Android or on the iPod Touch, and it just synchronizes.
It just works.
You can make it download in the background, and it works.
All right, last clip.
Get me out, boy.
Well, this is a very interesting clip.
It's not an up-tempo, upbeat clip.
Oh, actually, I do have an upbeat clip.
I can push this off until Thursday, this other clip.
Give me an upbeat.
Give me a beat.
The Mission District in San Francisco has got issues with all the gentrification and all the Googlers moving in and screwing up people.
So we've got a new name.
We're going to rebuild the Mission District with some nice Spanish terms, and we're just playing Mission District in San Francisco.
...
of the mission are being celebrated by many.
24th Street, considered the heart of the Latino culture, has a new designation.
ABC 7 News reporter Leanne Melendez takes us to Calle 24.
Perhaps it's the smell of the freshly baked Mexican pastries or the colorful murals that tell you you have arrived in the mission.
The Carnaval celebration has long been a tradition here.
Just like the improvised street music.
24th Street has been the cradle of the Latino art movement in San Francisco.
But in recent years, gentrification has threatened to displace the people and the businesses that have contributed to its cultural significance.
That's why the city decided it was time to begin talking about preserving the mission.
The resolution to designate it the Calle 24 Latino Cultural District was led by Supervisor David Campos.
How do I pronounce that?
Well, you don't have to play anymore.
Play the second clip, which has got it nailed.
You just cut it out of there.
This is how you pronounce it now.
Hold on.
Pay attention, everybody.
The resolution to designate it the Calle 24 Latino Cultural District...
This is what you get when you have a native speaker.
Hell, let me try this.
I want to try this.
We should be able to do this.
The resolution to designate it the Calle 24 Latino cultural district.
Then I have to get in the cab and ask for that district?
Well, I just asked for 24th Street in the Mission.
Hell with his name.
You know...
It hasn't happened in a while.
If you actually used that name in a cab, the guy would go, what?
What?
I think you deserve it today.
Clip of the day.
You deserve it.
You deserve it.
That was good.
At that very cusp of the show, the very ending of the show.
Yeah, I barely snuck it in.
Good work.
Very funny.
Very funny.
All right.
Well, super long show.
There you go.
It happens.
But we had a lot to catch up on.
We want to make sure you get the...
The value you deserve, and of course we had the long donation segments.
Don't worry, that probably won't happen Thursday.
But we will be here once again bringing you a brand new show, and I think, is that a new month?
Yeah.
Maybe?
No.
No, not yet.
Are you doing Twit?
No.
I think they're on vacation because it's a holiday weekend.
They're not like us.
Really?
What do they do?
Run a repeat?
It just seems to me unlikely.
I don't know.
I have no idea.
Strange.
I like working.
I enjoy it.
We will see what happens, but there's tons afoot and ahead, I'm sure.
I'm coming to you from FEMA Region 6 here in the capital of the Drone Star State in awesome Texas.
In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
And from northern Silicon Valley, where I've come back to the main abode, I'm John C. Dvorak.
We will talk to you again on Thursday right here on No Agenda.
Adios, mofos.
But resist, we much.
We must and we will much about that be committed.
That's why I'm moving on.
I'm Joe Biden and thank you for taking the time to listen.