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It's kind of gruesome, yeah.
Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak.
It's Sunday, May 4th, 2014.
Time for your Gitmo Nation Media Assassination Episode 614.
This is no agenda.
Running at 100.3 degrees Fahrenheit here in FEMA Region 6 in the Travis Heights.
I'm Austin, Texas.
Good morning, everybody.
I'm Adam Curry.
And from northern Silicon Valley where I'm cuddling up with a copy of 1956 February Radio Electronics Highlighting Portable Scintillation Counter.
I'm John C. Dvorak.
It's Crackpot and Buzzkill.
In the morning.
35 cents.
Yeah, there you go.
Oh, man.
I am sick as a dog.
Now what?
Well, no, it's what I had on Thursday.
Yeah.
Yeah, so I've been in bed since the end of the show Thursday.
I've been in bed.
Huh.
You've been in bed, literally in bed.
In bed.
In bed.
What, you can't stand up?
No.
Are you dizzy?
Yes.
So I have a combination.
I have a bronchial congestion.
Okay.
I have, um...
Well, of course the mold is still super high.
Love the mold.
So that makes me dizzy.
So I gotta take these quercetin things every, I guess, to an hour.
Which does help.
I had an ionizer on in the studio all morning, which really works, by the way.
This removes all the mold stuff, and I slept well last night.
Have you had a HEPA filter before?
Well, that's what this is.
It's a HEPA filter and an ionizer all in one.
Oh, nice.
Yeah.
We have three of them, actually.
That should suck out most stuff.
That should make the air beautiful.
Yeah, except in the studio, it's literally the corner of the house with all windows underneath the oak tree.
It couldn't be any worse for collecting stuff.
Well, that device will take care of it.
It probably recirculates the entire room full of air every hour.
Yes, except I can't have it on during the show, because then it sounds like you get this hiss on the microphone.
So then you'll be doing the show, we'll get into it, we'll finish the show, probably at an earlier time, I hope.
And then you'll be near dead, and you'll crawl on your hands and knees over to the ionizer.
Hold your hand out very slowly.
Just flick the switch on to save your own life.
Just barely.
If I could only reach my utility belt, Batman.
So here I am, I'm thinking like, what do I have?
This is crazy.
And of course, I'm also trying to work.
I had to figure out why the new setup was crashing, which I think I figured out, fingers crossed.
Are you talking about the one hour thing?
Yeah.
Every hour it dies.
We'll know in an hour from now.
Yep.
So I tried to figure that out.
Of course, there was still prep to do.
And I'm like, what is going on?
Because I had this really, really deep cough.
I'm not noticing that, but yeah.
Well, I haven't done it yet.
You want to hear it?
No, no, no.
That's called a productive cough.
Now, here's what it is.
A first case of the potentially fatal MERS virus, which has killed more than 100 people in Saudi Arabia, has been detected in the United States.
The male health worker had flown from Riyadh via London to Chicago before traveling on to Indiana.
It's raised new concerns about the spread of the respiratory disease which emerged in the Middle East.
It's similar to the SARS virus that killed some 800 people over a decade ago.
There you go.
That's obvious what it is.
I've got MERS. Middle Eastern respiratory disease.
It's possible.
You know, and so while...
You're always going to these events with all these international personalities.
There's probably some guy there from Saudi Arabia.
I shouldn't have tongue-kissed the guy from Saudi Arabia with the...
There you have it, right there.
Or the burqa babe.
We shouldn't have done that.
Oh, how stupid.
The burqa babe is always dangerous.
And then I'm thinking about...
Because, of course, there's no vaccine available for this MERS disease.
And I had a thought, because there was another report that came across the wire now in Gitmo Nation Lowlands.
It's very similar to everywhere now.
If your kid hasn't had its vaccinations, then the kid's not allowed to school.
Very similar.
There's a lot of hospitals, certainly, but lots of places now where if you have not had your vaccinations, you're not allowed to participate.
And I have a question for you.
Me?
Yeah, since I'm dying of MERS. Well, you're not dying.
You just have it.
I don't know how many people...
I think it has a death rate that's a little more than SARS, which is one out of three.
33%.
There you go.
Hey, 33!
The magic number!
Okay, so we're going to...
So every kid these days, certainly in America, by the time they're three, has had 24 different vaccinations.
Okay.
It's a lot.
Yeah, it's a lot.
It's a lot more than it used to be.
Yeah, it used to be a couple.
Yeah, then it was polio, and I think we got, I don't know, what did we get back in the day?
Polio?
No, polio wasn't even a shot, it was a sugar cube.
Yeah, it was a little oral.
You got the combination, it was diphtheria, tetanus, and something else.
Tetanus, tetanus, right, the rusty nail thing.
Yeah, tetanus, diphtheria.
And maybe measles.
I think I might have gotten a measles shot, but I'm not sure.
In my day, there was no measles.
Okay.
So I just definitely did not get mumps or rubella.
But in my day, we had smallpox.
Right.
Okay, so...
And they stopped giving that out, which I just, you know, I don't know.
So here's the question.
We're going to assume that these vaccinations, these 24 vaccinations, work.
Right?
That would be the theory, yes.
We're just going to assume that they all work.
Even though they could all be crap because drug companies don't care because they can't be sued.
Well, no, but let's just say they work.
All right, they work.
Why, if a kid doesn't have its vaccinations and it goes to school anyway, what's the danger?
If all the other kids are vaccinated...
And the kid has mumps or rubella or measles.
That would be the logic of a homeschooler.
Who cares?
Yeah, no, that's one of the theories about not taking the flu shot.
But that's my question.
So flu shots are the great example.
Why can't the kid go to school if he or she hasn't had a flu shot?
If the flu shot works, or does it?
Now you're delirious.
No, but seriously.
That's the way you said that.
That's when I came up with this stuff.
I'm thinking, hey, wait a minute.
It could all not work.
It's in all a giant scam.
Yes, I was thinking big scams.
They're shooting water into these kids.
Who would know?
H2O. But seriously, whenever someone says that, that's the answer.
Like, well...
You know, if your vaccine works, who cares if I show up and I'm sick?
You're not going to get it.
I'll get sick and I'll have to go home.
Bad on me.
Yeah, well, that's kind of what happened with JC's wife who had measles.
Right.
Because she got a measles shot and she ended up with the measles.
Right.
And she's in the, you know, dark room for about two or three days.
Oh, boy.
And I... Didn't get it.
But that's just your hobby space at the house.
Yeah.
It's one of the archives.
Right.
And you didn't get it.
No, I didn't get it, and I didn't worry about it because I had the measles.
I didn't get a shot, though.
You can't say it because I had a shot.
It's because I had the measles, and apparently that's a pretty good way to not get it.
You know, it's funny.
Buzzkill Jr.
had chicken pox when he was a little kid.
And it was weird because he had the chicken pox and it was confirmed, but he only had like three pox.
Yeah, no, you told us this.
Yeah, it still baffles us.
One on his leg.
Just staying on this for just a minute.
So there was a German study that concluded that stress...
And it's not such a stretch, really, when you think about it.
The German scientists have found that stress is contagious and can rub off on both strangers and your partner, and it can even be transmitted through television shows.
Stress?
Yes.
So, observing another person in a stressful situation can be enough to make our own bodies release the stress hormone cortisol.
And this is the Max Planck Institute for Cognitive and Brain Scientists in Leipzig.
And the Technical University in Dresden.
And so there's a couple things about this.
First of all, that doesn't surprise me that television can stress you out.
But of course, now they've actually measured that you release the stress hormone.
Well, this is one of the reasons our show is so good for people.
Yes, yes, exactly.
So I was thinking that, but also, do you know what we're doing to kids with this climate change bullcrap?
We're stressing them out.
Yeah!
There was another...
You gotta die, kid!
You're gonna die and you're gonna get floods!
Let me see, where is it?
I'm on the water.
I haven't seen anything going on.
Youth anxiety...
Who did this?
What story was this?
It's from the Globe and Mail, but okay.
Let's see.
Youth anxiety on the rise due to climate change reporting.
Nice!
I knew it was good for something.
But no one really talks about that.
And when you think about these young kids who are coming home six years old and they've been taught at school that the Earth is dying.
Didn't we get an email from one of our knights the other day?
Yeah.
And the kids are all freaked out and mad.
It's like, what is going on with all this?
Yeah.
The Earth's dying, kid.
Yeah.
This is your evil parents.
Yeah.
No, these things are not very good.
No, we actually...
Yeah.
No, especially in public schools.
You know, there's good public schools, but most of them, they scare the kids, they give them bad information.
It's a horrible experience.
Surprised any of these kids get out alive.
At all.
Ever.
No, seriously.
When I was a kid, it was different.
You have the window open again?
No, I don't have anything open.
Are you hearing noise?
Yeah, a little bit.
And, you know, it's the new system.
Now I can hear everything.
We used to have that second-rate, you know, grade B audio stuff, and now all of a sudden I'm hearing things.
Oh, okay.
Well, it could be delusional, too.
Yes.
Well, this is fact.
Fact?
Yeah, I have 100.3.
I'm tripping.
Right now, you're at 100.3.
Yes.
That's terrible.
Yeah.
I'm not very good at being ill, either.
Oh, you're one of those.
Well, I want the windows closed, leave me alone, go away.
And the sad thing is, Mickey's niece is here.
She's with us for two weeks.
She's a 16-year-old.
Oh!
Actually, that's kind of great, because I'm following the Dvorak school of child-rearing.
Hey, kid, get me some coffee.
What are you good for?
Yeah, she's fantastic.
Give me some coffee.
Yeah, hey, give me some coffee.
I'm going to show you how this thing works.
And now it's sad because I can't participate in everything.
I've just been laying in bed.
She's probably got stuff she could tell you, too.
That would be interesting.
Oh, no, I've learned a lot.
Just observing the kid on the iPad.
Oh, my God.
I got to learn something the other day.
Apparently, there's a resurgence of...
Grimy, sleazy, kind of perverted burlesque amongst the hipsters.
In Austin, burlesque is quite a revival here.
Now I'm irked even more, because I get this information at the dinner table, and then I talk to Mimi later in the day.
I say, you know about this burlesque thing going on in Oakland?
She says, yeah, oh yeah!
Yeah, yeah.
She explained it as, she apparently knows, because she's connected to the comedy community, because she used to produce.
Yeah.
And she says that it's just kind of some of the worst, lamest, crappy burlesque with the homeliest women.
And there's some word term for these women called...
Fats.
It's called sex without guilt or some crazy term for people showing their really misshapen bodies off in public.
Oh.
And it's like a major trend.
Now you're telling me that somehow I can't believe that this is shot right over my head.
Yeah, we know a number of people here who are in the burlesque scene.
So one of our friends, we talked about on the show, one of our friends, she almost died.
She caught some respiratory disease, funny enough.
And then she was in the hospital for three months.
It's probably what you got.
God, I hope not.
They actually induced coma.
Anyway, she came out of it, and she was a burlesque dancer.
And I had never actually seen her perform, but then they did a benefit, because, of course, she had no health insurance.
So we went to go see this.
Oh, right.
We talked about this.
Yeah, and then we went to the benefit, and it was like, okay.
Yeah, great.
And if anything, it's, I don't know, it's not particularly great in my book.
That's what Mimi said.
Yeah.
But the hipsters are all over it.
Oh, the hipsters are all over everything.
These hipsters.
Ah, anyway.
They're controlling the culture right now.
No, they're not.
Oh, yeah.
No, they're not.
Benghazi, Benghazi, Benghazi.
So there's so many fun things going on right now.
Wait, let's stop a second and reevaluate our six-week cycle, which seems to be...
We still have a couple days left for something to happen.
Well, we had a number of things that I think fit within the system.
Well, do you think that kid trying to blow up to school and kill his parents...
Well, no, no, no, I'm thinking about the guy who wanted, who had the fake explosive, up in Seattle, who had the explosives for the Space Needle, for Walmart, he was going to blow up gas stations, the feds, and it was FBI's involved.
Oh, okay, that one is, yeah, that's a possibility.
Yeah, so the feds were prompting him along, and then he...
See, it doesn't get much, the media attention is what's missing.
Well, this is like the last time, when we had the guy who...
Idiot.
...up in Wichita...
Right.
They don't really need that much media.
It's good if they get it, but all they have to do is just check the boxes on the report and say, oh, well, here's what we did.
Oh, and by the way, the guy died.
Oh, sorry about that.
The guy died in custody.
Yeah, maybe that's what it was.
But I was expecting something a little more interesting.
Yeah, but the problem is we have people burning alive in Ukraine.
We have the ferry.
We've got all this stuff happening.
You've got too many bodies in other places, which is beyond the FBI's control.
Remember, the six-week cycle...
It has to adhere to a number of things.
First, it has to be a patsy being set up by the FBI specifically for weeks or months in advance.
Now, this all works.
Typically, the guy would have a middle name.
Now, that didn't hit it on this one.
It was Larry Gillette.
There was no middle name.
So I didn't like that.
But then, you know, the guy, they have to thwart the plot by giving him a phony, you know, cell phone.
Hey, if you press this, it'll blow up.
And also, this wasn't really, there was no radicalization angle to it, but he, you know, that he had been in touch with somebody in Syria or any of that.
So it was weak.
A pure lone wolf.
Yeah, it was weak at best.
So maybe this wasn't it.
Maybe this was just...
If nothing happens in the next five or by Thursday, I will put that down on the list as the event and we'll have to wait another six weeks.
It qualifies pretty much on the main points.
Right.
It has the boxes checked.
Which is really all I need.
Didn't work out and all the rest.
Yeah, another foiled plot.
Okay.
I can live with that.
What was I going to say?
I don't know.
Why are we doing that?
We can talk about the correspondence dinner.
You were actually off on some tangent that you wanted to finish, that you began with your sickness.
I don't know.
I don't know.
Before we go into correspondence dinner...
We need to look at the presidential proclamations.
For some reason, May...
Now, we already had all the...
It's National Seniors Month.
We now pretty much both qualify.
I almost qualify.
You are overqualified.
I'm overqualified for a lot of things.
That's why I can't get work.
That's why you're...
Welcome to the podcast.
On Friday, it was World Press Freedom Day.
That's a United Nations, I know, funny, isn't it?
That's a United Nations celebration.
But listen to this.
We have this week, it is National Charter Schools Week, by presidential proclamation.
As the president says, at the heart of who we are as Americans, a simple but profound idea, no matter who you are, what you look like, or where you're from, or who you love, you can get a world-class education.
In a charter school run by Bill Gates.
That's right.
It is...
Let's see.
Is this today?
Or is this...
May 1st was National Law Day.
Who needs a day for law?
I don't know.
We've got enough laws.
Let's see.
This Law Day pays special tribute to the right to vote, the cornerstone of democracy.
Okay.
Then we have, well, the month is being shared now along with Asian American and Pacific Islander Heritage Month.
Do you think that what happens is that, you know, someone sees all these things going on and then some lobbying group calls up and says, hey, wait a minute!
We need some attention!
Or do you think it's they have bills running around in Congress or someone has some agenda and they just call up and say, hey, add this to the list?
No, I think your former commentary was exactly what happens.
Or they get a hold of their senator, usually, or even a congressman, and then they say, hey, and they bitch to them.
And then when they have that open speech part of the day where guys just come out, they get five minutes to say whatever they want.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Oh, yeah, yeah, right.
They thank the postmaster, or they talk about the roads in their town being fixed, and it's a great town to live in.
And then they say, and they put into the record that there's to do something for the Pan-American...
You know, residual award winners of the Pan American Games of the 1930s or whatever.
And then it becomes a day or something.
I mean, something like that.
I'm sure that's what it is.
They don't just have a suggestion box.
May 1st was Loyalty Day 2014.
If you're wondering what that is, of course.
Yeah, what is it?
Over 150 years ago, as a civil war threatened to dissolve our union, President Abraham Lincoln delivered the Gettysburg Address, defining the American experiment as conceived in liberty and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal.
Yeah.
He resolved that our nation shall not perish from the earth.
He understood that what makes America most worth preserving are our founding ideals.
These ideals compelled colonists to rise up against an empire, and they have sustained generations of service members through the darkest days of war.
Ah, it's an army thing.
In the United States of America...
He never mentions the word.
Here it comes.
In the United States of America, we do not define loyalty as adherence to any single leader, party, or political platform.
Oh, no!
When we make big decisions as a country, we necessarily stir up passions and controversy.
These debates are a hallmark of democracy.
They allow us to trade ideas, question antiquated notions, and ensure our nation's Republicans shut up.
I'm sorry.
Shut up.
Do nothing Congress!
By the way, I have to remind people that you want a do nothing Congress.
Yeah, that's exactly what it's supposed to do.
Otherwise, you just write all kinds of nutty laws.
One more here.
Friday, May 2nd was National Day of Prayer.
Okay, why?
As we give thanks for our liberties, we must never forget those around the world, including Americans, who are being held or persecuted because of their convictions.
Let us remember all prisoners of conscience today, especially those in Guantanamo Bay.
I'm sorry, it doesn't say that.
It should.
Yeah, it should.
Let us continue to take every action within our power to secure their release from Guantanamo Bay.
And let us carry forward our nation's tradition of religious liberty, which protects Americans' rights to pray and to practice our faiths as we see fit.
And then finally, it is, and I think we've already had one of these months.
I think they're giving it two months a year.
It's National Mental Health Awareness Month.
That sounds familiar.
I think we already had that.
A proclamation.
Despite great strides in our understanding of mental illness and vast improvements in the dialogue surrounding it, too many still suffer in silence.
Tens of millions of Americans face mental health conditions like depression, anxiety, bipolar disorder, schizophrenia, or post-traumatic stress disorder from killing brown people in sand.
During National Mental Health Awareness Month, we reaffirm our commitment to building our understanding of mental illness, increasing access to treatment, and ensuring those who are struggling to know they are not alone.
We've got the answer in this little pill for you.
Oh, this is an Obamacare thing.
Over the course of a year, one in five adults will experience a mental illness, yet less than half will receive treatment.
Because this is unacceptable, my administration is fighting back to make mental health care more accessible than ever through the Affordable Care Act.
We are extending mental health and substance use disorder benefits and parity protections to over 60 million Americans.
Let's read that again.
Mental health and substance use disorder benefits.
Wow.
Free drugs.
Man, oh man, oh man, oh man.
I mean, you could do the same thing with some pot for them, but you'd legalize marijuana.
That's just a social experiment, John.
That's not really medicine.
That's right, that's right.
It's been defined as a social experiment.
And it's funny, they only mention Colorado fails, snubs the state of Washington.
Yeah, yeah, I thought that was interesting, too.
So last night, I got up around, I think around 6 o'clock in the afternoon, in the evening.
And someone was tweeting, oh man, you gotta check it out.
And I'd completely forgotten about the White House Correspondents' Dinner.
And the dinner is one thing where the president does his 15, 20 minutes of jokes, and they always have a comedian read a list of jokes.
By the way, maybe I'm wrong because we've been watching this thing on and off for the last five, six years.
I always thought that the president came on after.
It's funny you say that.
I thought that too.
But then when I went back, no, it turns out the president is always first and then it's the host.
And then you've checked us out with previous...
Yes, yeah, I went back and looked.
Huh.
Mm-hmm.
I don't know why I thought that.
I also had that impression.
I don't know why I thought it, except it seems more like, why would the...
You're the host.
That means you're the emcee.
Well, you're not.
You're not.
You're just the guy who reads the approved list of jokes.
Yeah, and this was the worst one for a long time, because...
Joel McHale is really more of a comedic actor.
He's not a stand-up comic.
And these were all Henny Youngman one-liners.
But I recall that's what it was last time, too.
It really has just become...
It wasn't so much when Colbert was on there, who they don't like.
They mentioned in the documentary as a guy who bombed, because he got it all wrong.
Colbert, who was the...
Well, I thought both the president and Joel McHale were bombing at times, but they both had really good moments.
But before we get to that...
What I love, and that's why I was happy that I was up at six, because that's when the C-SPAN live coverage of the red carpet started.
Who did you see?
By the way, these people have nothing to do with the White House corresponding anything.
Well, of course you see a lot of politicians and you see a lot of the...
Actually, I thought there were not that many Hollywood celebrities.
I thought it was interesting to see many...
I saw a couple of women walking around like Claire Underwood.
Yeah, I saw a lot of Claire Underwood.
It's so funny.
It's so funny.
Let's see.
I got an article here.
Because, of course, it's not just about the dinner, but it's about the parties.
This was a big Silicon Valley year.
Marissa Meyer was there.
Right, and she was with...
His name has just lost his name, but he was there, and he's got absolutely nothing to do with...
Oh, I didn't see who she was with.
I saw that...
She was with a bunch of Yahoo's.
Yeah.
Because Yahoo apparently got on the board, and they have a big table in front.
Yeah.
So there's a bunch of Yahoo's there.
Yeah, they got guys from Vice Media.
I saw Steve Case roaming around.
Yeah, I saw him too, the former AOL chairman.
Yeah, what's he got to do with it, you know?
And Valerie Jarrett, and she was at the table with her boyfriend Rashad, what's his name?
Ahmad Rashad, the former sports guy?
Yeah.
Yeah, but not sitting next to her.
Yeah, well, boy.
Nothing to see here.
Patrick Duffy, all of a sudden, from Dallas, shows up.
Yeah, David McCallum from NCIS was there talking to some woman.
Yeah, it wasn't really star-studded.
But I really like watching, because the people who are there...
They don't realize that the cameras are on.
And you see women hoisting up their bustiers.
But it's so House of Cards-like, where you see the bespectacled women who threw on some...
Too expensive dress that is ill-fitting, networking, running around, going from table to table, bumping in, looking around, who am I supposed to talk to now?
And then watching Charlie Rose eat a salad, it's stomach-churning.
And the man, he like shovels the leaves into his mouth and he's bending forward.
I was already not feeling well, and then I have to watch that.
How does he hold the fork?
Yeah, well, he holds it correctly, not like you.
We all know you hold the fork incorrectly.
Now, I will say, Michelle Obama's Marchesa gown?
Stunning.
Stunning.
I felt the same way.
I really did.
I really liked it.
I bet you did.
It was good.
It was good.
Anyways, anywho.
Oh, I get to play my jingle when I say those things.
Because I'm a hero, flexible, hero, flexible man.
So in general, these White House correspondence dinners are supposed to be self-deprecating, and I thought the president did a poor job of making fun of himself.
There was some of it there, but nah, he really went after everybody else.
Let me play a few clips that are not from the event, but about the event, that C-SPAN, which does a great job, and I don't know if you also saw the walk-in when they came in.
Yeah, so that's the red carpet, of course.
These douchebags, I'm talking, you know, there's two, they show just for hours, they show just people mingling.
Yeah.
Which is very valuable.
I think that is the best reality television on television today.
I'm totally with you on that.
Then they have these idiots coming through on the red carpet posing.
So you see Eric Holderman with his wife.
And he's smiling for the camera and he's doing the twist and he moves sideways.
And doesn't his wife look scary?
I mean, not like ugly or anything, but she looks...
She looks mean-spirited.
She looks mean-spirited, exactly.
She does.
She'll eat your head off.
And that idiot Sharpton comes in and he's...
He's running around like, who can I blackmail today?
He's pestering people.
He's pestering people.
Everyone's like, oh crap, they're Sharpton, hide.
And then there was some blonde that they kept shooting lots of pictures of.
She was kind of a wide-bottom woman, kind of attractive, but who was she?
I mean, there's a bunch of these...
Wait, wait, wait.
There was one woman on the dais...
Who had, her breasts were as big as my head.
Oh, that's the one from Urban Radio.
No, no, no.
That was the black one.
There was a white one in like a silver, in like a glitter ball dress.
You know, I say this, every single year we make the mistake, you and I should get the live stream going.
Okay, next year, if we're still alive, next year, we need to live stream commentary.
Yeah, like science fiction theater.
Yes!
We talk over.
Look at that!
Why is she dressed up?
Oh, look who it is!
Exactly.
And I'll do commentary about the outfits.
Yeah, you can do that.
We could probably...
Now I'm mad.
We should have done that, man.
Oh, we're so stupid.
We always get caught off guard.
And, you know, it's a lot of work.
No, it's not.
We just turn the stream on and watch television and talk.
It's not a lot of work at all.
It's easy.
Next time.
Next time.
We'll do it next time.
Let's play a couple of clips here.
All right.
Let's see.
Let's start with the one I... This is one of my favorite ones.
I thought this was kind of...
The term we hear is telling.
And this is the clip that's the Drinking Club clip.
This is very interesting.
CD Drinking Club.
Okay, I just got to get into your naming here.
Here we go.
And as you know, this dinner has grown exponentially in size.
About 2,600 people now.
Obviously our main celebrity is the President of the United States.
Very kind and gracious.
Has come every year since 1981.
And you're talking about just how large it's gotten.
How has the dinner changed and evolved over the years?
Well, a number of ways.
One, there's no smoking at the dinner.
I was just talking to the three or four of the most senior waiters at the Hilton who've been waiting on the head table for about 40 or 45 years.
And I asked them the same thing.
And so one of the key things is there's no smoking.
The drinking has changed.
Reporters used to drink many bottles of scotch, whiskey, at every table.
Now it's a lot less drinking, more wine, and as waiters tell me, a lot of fruit-flavored drinks.
What?
Fruit-flavored drinks?
They're not drinking anymore.
They're not drinking anymore?
No, this is bad.
This is very bad.
So I thought that was the most telling little speech.
They had these staffers.
They were interviewing staffers.
And here's another one that I thought was interesting.
This is the 2008 anomaly, which actually tells me something.
Hilton Food and Beverage Manager Gordon Marr and got his perspective.
How many years have you worked at the Hilton?
I'm on 34 years right now.
34 years.
And how many of these White House Correspondents' Dinners have you seen?
I'm pretty sure I'm on 34 this year.
Does any stand out, looking back?
I think probably the first year that President Obama was in office.
That seemed to become the Hollywood one.
Everybody seemed to be here.
Well, we've had celebrities for many, many years.
That first one was just overwhelming with the number of celebrities that decided they had to go through the kitchen because they didn't want to get...
Stop by the crowds because there's literally thousands of people here and everybody wants to meet everybody.
So we just had people walking through the kitchen all night long.
Kind of difficult to keep a team getting a meal out for that many people when they see different celebrities walking through.
Now that was interesting to me because what that tells me was that when Obama got elected, as you recall, you had all these people talking about how the world's going to change because Obama hoped and changed and all the rest of it.
None of it happened.
And so they were all in.
So the place was apparently chock full of all these Hollywood types in 2008.
And then year after year after year, more droning.
Yeah.
You know, all these things the liberals hate, and now they just kind of bailed, and I just think it's interesting how they must feel so disappointed.
Except for the Duck Dynasty guy who was there, one of them.
Yeah, the Duck Dynasty guy.
Now, the one that I also thought, this one I do want to explain a little bit after you play it, and this is the New York Times.
The New York Times does not go to this event.
Oh, really?
Yeah, and they have a good excuse, and you can play the New York Times exposition on this.
The issue some people have...
With the mixture of politicians and celebrities at this dinner, we spoke with New York Times Magazine correspondent Mark Leibovich last year and asked him about the very same question, what he thought of that whole issue, and he raised the issue of media as celebrity.
Here's some of what he had to say.
Well, I think as we found out this weekend, it's all pretty closely aligned.
I mean, I think one of the things about Washington that's somewhat unique is that really since all the president's men, I mean, journalists in D.C. have become More of a celebrity class than in other cities, which is an odd thing.
But there's a level of self-congratulation and self-celebration and so forth that can be somewhat at odds with the mood of the rest of the country and how people view the media and so forth.
It's very, very unique to this culture in some ways, but I do think that many people would think it's odd that we now have about two dozen parties to celebrate the efforts of the Washington media over a single weekend at a time when, frankly, a lot of people are not happy with the performance of Washington or the media.
Now, the New York Times does not attend the correspondence dinner anymore.
Why is that?
Well, I think the reasoning is, and Dean Baquet, who was then the Washington bureau chief, and I think this was around 2007, decided that it just felt too cozy.
It felt too, not too festive, but it did not feel like the right message to be sent to our readers to really be, you know, in such a chummy and sort of festive setting with the people we're covering.
And I think people, that's obviously a view that Some hold, but not everyone, and we don't pass judgment on those who do go.
And obviously, when I did used to go and I worked at another newspaper, I got a lot of work done, and so there's a lot of fun to be had.
But I think, I mean, that has been the paper's philosophy for a number of years now, and I don't see it changing, at least certainly not this year.
Well, I'll hand it to the New York Times for that, because that is one of the things that annoys me a lot.
Yeah, no, it annoys me too, but let's be more realistic.
The New York Times is just cheap.
It is a very expensive proposition.
I wrote for them one year.
I did a hit piece for the New York Times, and I got art, by the way.
I'll give it to you.
I'll give it to you.
You got a picture of you?
No, Art.
In other words, they do the illustrations around the piece, which is really difficult.
Oh, I'm sorry.
And it was at Comdex, and it was kind of a slam at Comdex that the Times got to run because they did not want to send anybody to Comdex.
And they didn't send anybody because they just thought it was too expensive.
The New York Times guys, you know, they get a per diem that's high.
They had to fly them out, put them up in hotels.
It's a very expensive process, and they pay for all of it.
And I think that they just bailed on this party because it's ridiculous.
And then there's the politics, which I think is even more important.
The politics of, do I get to go?
Oh, internal politics in the company, you mean?
Yeah, they have thousands of reporters, and a lot of them cover this stuff.
Why don't I get to go?
Why does he get to go?
Why does she get to go?
Why is she going?
She hasn't even been here half as long as I have.
Well, it's like when any company that I've had, people are always like, oh, we've got to go to South by.
I'm like, no.
That's ridiculous.
There's no business there.
You just want to go drink and get laid.
No one goes.
I'd never been to South By until I moved here.
I've never been to South By.
Yeah, it's...
Except virtually.
Yeah, it's a lot of fun to drink and get laid if someone else is paying the bill.
I don't notice that that many people are getting laid.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah?
Oh, there's a lot of getting laid going on.
Oh, yeah.
Well, that's a plus.
Anyway, so...
There's something we missed out on.
Yet again.
Yet again, John.
That's the way it works.
Anyway, the New York, because you see CBS, they bring in, there's people there that shouldn't be at this event, and you know that there's people irked back at the office because they do a lot of work, and they don't get to go.
Well, the whole Today Show is there, including Carson Daly.
Yeah, and then Savannah was there, yakking away, smiling.
Yeah, but it's...
And then Fat L. Roker was there.
Yeah, it just shows the collusion.
And what is...
L. Roker's a weatherman.
Why is he there?
Well, because he left his dirty underwear in the White House.
Don't you see?
Well, that's right.
He's very crapped in the White House.
I did think the...
I think there were a couple of things that were very funny.
One, they had a little video, which that smoking hot babe from A&E, she's the CEO. She's very smart.
Very, very smart lady.
She's the one that started the whole controversy with the Duck Dynasty guys.
She's one smart cookie.
So she did the whole video that they always put together.
And it included Joe Biden driving around in a yellow Corvette with Selina Meyer, played by Julia Louis-Dreyfus, in her Veep role.
And I thought that was really good for Biden.
I thought that was very funny.
Because he's such a boob.
Doofus.
Yeah, he's a doofus, that's right.
And it was great until they all started acting with Michelle Obama in the kitchen.
Then it fell apart.
The whole idea of sunglasses and we're driving in the Corvette, that was cool.
And then the whole thing just kind of fell apart.
But Biden was getting pooped on.
Even by the President, when he shows, you know, during his little stand-up, and he shows, you know, he's talking about Hillary Clinton, and he shows a picture of Joe Biden holding an Adidas gym shoe, like he had thrown the shoe at Hillary in Vegas.
Yeah.
They were giving Biden a little ribbing.
So what else do you have?
And Biden, I don't think, was at the event.
He can't be.
I don't think they're allowed to be there together.
I don't think that's true.
I think he was at the event last year.
I don't think so.
There's no reason for the two of them.
They do a lot of stuff together.
Yeah, well, let's just put it this way.
How come we have a six-week cycle?
Everything would be solved in one go.
You know what I'm saying, John?
Everything could be solved in one fell swoop.
Every douchebag in the world.
And it's in the Hilton Hotel.
It's so easy.
The Hilton Hotel.
How come Al-Qaeda doesn't see this opportunity?
Because there is, well, you know why.
Because it's all bull crap.
Okay, what else you got?
I do have one more clip from an insider talking about the celebrities over history, which is kind of interesting.
This is the why celebrities more, there's more, there's been more celebrities in the last 20 years, even though there's always been celebrities, apparently.
We've had Hollywood celebrities.
We actually have had Hollywood celebrities before.
We've had waves.
In the 40s we would have multiple entertainers including Frank Sinatra and Jimmy Durante and Bing Crosby and Animal Axe.
We still have an entertainer and we've had Hollywood guests.
Barbara Streisand came to her first dinner in 1962.
We've had more of them in the last 20 years.
We've added scholarship winners.
The association only started sponsoring a scholarship about 20 years ago.
Now it's a big part of our evening.
We use all the proceeds in the dinner to raise money for the scholarships and we award them at the dinner and the scholarship winners get to meet the president and this first lady particularly enjoys coming up to hand them out.
And it's a high point of our evening.
And so why do news organizations invite celebrities to the dinner, and what do they have to do with the dinner?
Well, you'd have to define celebrity for me.
Now, I think if you're inviting the chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, in my world, that's a celebrity.
And I'm lucky enough to sit at the head table with the President of the United States.
To me, that's the biggest celebrity in the room.
It always is.
So there are other celebrities who come.
And I assume that you're talking about Hollywood or actors and actresses.
You know, some news organizations who are members, particularly the TV networks, invite the people who work for their TV networks.
Yes, continue to arrive.
Now, there's one thing that they did mention, was that the president apparently didn't always come to this thing.
It was literally a meeting for the club.
But starting in 1981 is when they apparently every year since 1981, which is Reagan.
And Reagan, of course, being a borderline stand-up comic would come to the thing.
And then he did every year for like, I guess, seven years since he got elected in 81, essentially.
So he started coming, and then now everyone has to come.
And so now they all come.
So he actually set the table for that.
Now, I do have some jokes.
And I just want to say, before you get to the jokes, Google had a lot of parties going on on Friday and Saturday evening.
Google did something with another company, I think.
Let me just check real quick.
It's kind of like a little South by now for the high-end Silicon Valley types.
Google Netflix, actually.
Here we go.
The Google Netflix bash at the Institute of Peace.
Yeah.
There we go.
Enjoyed a strong media turnout, including Fox News' Greta Van Susteren, Chris Matthews, Peter Alexander from NBC, Shane Smith of Vice Media, Joanna Coles, she's editor of Cosmo, of course, Ronan Farrow, Uh...
Servers and bartenders sported red suspenders that stood out in the all-white decor.
Wow!
Three dangling white signs spelled out STORY, TWO, and SCREEN in capital letters.
An invisible hand sketched massive drawings across one wall that were white clean and replaced throughout the evening.
Nancy Pelosi took a picture with the cast from House of Cards, including Michael Kelly, Sebastian Arcelis, Sakina Jaffrey, and Michael Gill, whoever these are.
Oh, Gill, who played the president on Cards, said that he takes inspiration from President Barack Obama.
I've never seen a president work so hard, he told Politico.
Who else was there?
Well, how about members, cast members from Scandal, including Katie Lowe's, Guillermo Diaz, Bellamy Young.
Don't forget Uzo Adiba of Orange is the New Black.
And there's Robin Wright with Molly Parker from HOC. What's HOC? Oh, House of Cards.
I'm so not into the Hollywood lingo anymore.
It's HOC, I'm sorry.
HOC! Hello!
Alright, let's get to the jokes.
Alright, I only have three here that are good.
First of all, let's do the Obama material.
Obama did this thing about Putin.
He went off on Putin.
And then he had a picture of this.
And I thought it was gay innuendo to an extreme.
And I think it was deplorable.
Considering that the new conservative darling is none other than Vladimir Putin.
Last year, Pat Buchanan said, Putin's headed straight for the Nobel Peace Prize.
He said this.
Now, I know it sounds crazy, but to be fair, they give those to just about anybody these days.
That was funny.
So it could happen.
But it's not just Pat.
Rudy Giuliani said, Putin is what you call a leader.
Mike Huckabee and Sean Hannity keep talking about his bare chest, which is kind of weird.
There's your liberal crowd laughing at gays.
Yeah.
That's pretty funny.
Ha ha ha!
Faggots!
Look it up.
They talk about it a lot.
Yeah.
Yeah, they must be smoking that tube.
During that laugh interlude.
It was funny, though.
I thought it was funny.
It was funny, but they put a picture up, a poster, that was Vladimir Putin with his bare chest, and then they had these three guys, Puckabee and Hannity, dreamy eyes, and the whole thing was very gay.
Yeah, it was.
Yeah.
That was good.
It was gay.
Yeah, it was very gay.
Yeah, very gay.
That was funny.
Everybody loves a good gay joke, John.
You just can't do it unless you're the president.
Yeah.
I wonder whether the guys on gay news will pick up on this and say anything.
So...
When McHale came out, I took what I thought was two best lines.
I don't think everyone would agree with me, but here's what I thought was the second best joke is the way I see it.
Now over 8 million people have signed up for Obamacare, which sounds impressive, until you realize Ashley Tisdale has 12 million Twitter followers.
Yeah, that was pretty funny.
Now the top joke for me, which I thought was the most insulting joke he could have done, and it was very subtly insulting.
Well, not subtly to anyone listening, but this was, to me, was the top joke of the day.
There's a lot of celebrities here tonight.
They're the ones that don't look like ghouls.
Yeah.
Short and sweet.
Yeah.
Well, I like that he started off by saying, you know, hey, that Guantanamo Bay thing, that was funny.
Yeah.
No, the Guantanamo Bay thing was a good line.
But I think McHale bombed a lot.
He had a lot of sweaty moments there.
And the president had some visual joke that failed, which was bad.
Yeah.
But I mean, here's the only thing, the only joke that mattered to me was this one.
And speaking of conservative heroes, the Koch brothers bought a table here tonight, but, as usual, they used a shadowy right-wing organization...
Now, this is not the joke that I care about.
I want Fox News.
Listen to this.
I'm just kidding.
Let's face it, Fox, you'll miss me when I'm gone.
It will be harder to convince the American people that Hillary was born in Kenya.
Hillary!
So, that's basically saying Hillary's going to be the next president.
Yeah, I was going to clip that, too.
And I think that's exactly what it said.
I mean, that's basically...
Hey, Biden, screw you, by the way.
No, he put down Biden a couple of times, said Hillary would be...
I can't imagine that Biden is too happy with this.
No!
He was insulted?
No.
And then Hillary was already given, she's crowned, she's crowned president.
Which is, by the way, which is not going to work.
That's why I'm sticking with my Elizabeth Warren move.
Pocahontas.
Yeah, and he did the Kenyan thing a couple of times.
He did that joke twice.
And I want to mention, because I follow all these...
This is bullcrap.
Of all the networks and people that say he was born in Kenya, Fox News is not one of them.
They're not a big promoter of that concept.
It's mostly right-wing talk radio guys.
Uh, yeah.
So that's just bullcrap.
I don't even know where he's coming.
It's like, you know, just gratuitous.
Old jokes.
Yeah, well, anyway, so the thing overall was...
A B. I give it a B. B minus.
Oh, B minus, yeah.
But it's always good to see the people who are in collusion with each other hanging out and actually doing it out in the open.
Oh, and hugging.
Yeah, oh yeah.
And the one-side phony kiss, which is not even a kiss now, they just bump cheeks.
Yeah.
You notice this?
Yeah, yeah.
You go up there and bump the cheek.
Did you watch any of the awards where they hand out the scholarships?
Yeah, I watched all of them.
The first girl that came up?
Did you see the president?
Yeah.
Mickey caught this act.
She's like, oh, we rewound it.
He was like, eh, eh.
Eh, you look good.
And everyone's hugging Michelle.
Do it.
I have to say, she does that very well.
She feels like a first lady, like a mama.
You know, you want to hug her.
Everyone's like, ooh, let me hug you.
He does that well.
I like that.
As first ladies go.
Yeah, no, she's okay.
Yeah, you don't want to, like, a Nancy Reagan bag of bones, you know.
Well, I'm going to crush the woman.
Yeah, or imagine having to hug Hillary Clinton.
Well, anyway, good wrap-up there, John.
Thank you.
For your courage.
And in the morning to you, John C. Dvorak.
In the morning to you, Adam Curry.
In the morning to all ships that see, boots on the ground, feet in the air, subs in the water, and all the dames and knights out there.
And in the morning to everyone in the chatroom, noagendastream.com, noagendachat.net.
And in the morning to our artists.
Thank you very much.
Let's see.
Who did we have?
Oh my goodness.
I don't have it on the...
Oops.
This is what you get when you're deathly ill.
Let me see who did the artwork on the 613.
That was done by...
Oh, Nick the Rat, of course.
I should have known.
Oh, yes.
It was the carry with his little sphincter mouth.
And his tongue sticking out.
Yeah, this was a controversial one.
Controversial choice.
There was no real good art by our definition or what we're looking for, which is kind of thematic.
Yeah, always thematic.
Something outrageous that was done on the show or some good deconstruction turned into art, spot art.
Yeah, yeah.
And there was nothing, really.
It was like everything was kind of borderline funny, but not funny enough.
And you kind of picked that one.
I had other ideas, but I had to agree, because in fact there was the big...
Because I think it was kind of...
It's a gruesome picture.
I don't like putting art up that is...
It wasn't gruesome.
It's kind of gruesome, yeah.
That tongue is creepy.
His mouth is a little slit, and he's got this huge, long, skinny tongue.
It's called creative freedom.
It's called a gruesome.
Call it what you want.
I liked it.
I'm happy we had it.
Of course, we're always looking forward to seeing what we can put in our album art, noagendaartgenerator.com.
We do it right after the show, so it's a real challenge for our artists, but we highly appreciate the work that all of them do.
Now, having been in bed, fever, sweating, coughing, I'm almost sorry I showed up today.
Oh yeah, we have a very low turnout of contributions.
And I don't understand why.
I know last Thursday's show was hard because I was sick.
I think we still delivered.
I will tell you what I've noticed, because I'm trying to figure out why, although this is the beginning of vacation time and some people just aren't going to be following the show at all, they don't care.
Ever since we did that four-hour show, donations have been down.
And I'm thinking, you know, the old show business thing is you give them, you know, make them want more so you don't give them the full, you know, that was great, I wish there was more.
Yeah, but we did two hours and...
We gave them too much.
But we did two hours and 31 minutes on Thursday...
Which was bright on the nose.
Seemed like a lot more than that to me.
Well, it's because we had to restart a lot.
And by the way, we're coming up on our one hour.
We'll see if this thing hangs in there or not.
Yeah, this is a very funny anomaly.
But it's okay.
I think I figured it out.
No, you hate it because you've got to go do post and that's the last thing you want to do.
No, I think I figured it out.
Oh, okay.
Well, let's thank our three executive producers, associate executive producers.
We have one executive producer, the only executive producer because he came in as the highest associate, and that's your down-the-street buddy, Sir Gene Natuja.
Oh, that's our Baron de Marriott Sheriff of Texas.
That's Sheriff of Texas, $269.69, and it's $200 for Adam Feeling Better, and the rest for You Know.
Not a lot of that going on here right now.
Then we go to two associate executive producers, Arthur Gobetz.
Zandam.
He's Dutch, so it would be Hobets, I think.
Hobets.
Hobets.
Arthur Hobets.
Arthur Hobets.
Arthur Hobets in Zandam.
Zandam.
Zandam.
$210.
Dear senior citizens, as promised to Adam, I'm donating a portion of my tax return.
This is a silly amount that equals to the kilobyte size on disk of the attached photo I send of my very large hairy pussy cat.
Huge kitty.
Did you see that thing?
Did you see the picture?
Yeah.
It looked really cute and innocent when asked if he ate the two kitties from April's 30th newsletter.
Yes, John, this is what a cute kitty looks like, even if he weighs seven kilos.
Holy crap.
His name is Kenny, and I suggest that I use the rest of the tax money to install stripper poles in the spare bedroom to try to catch some of the escape girls from last Tuesday's Club 33 disaster.
Although admiring his entrepreneurship, I confronted him and explained it was a crazy idea to install two poles as sharing is a virtue and it leaves spare change to make it rain.
Greetings from the crazy institute called Gitmo Nation Lowlands.
Please give me a health karma as my brain is the only thing not hurting in my body.
All right, Arthur.
Thank you very much.
And I also want to thank everyone else who Miss Mickey tweeted something saying, Adam's not feeling well, you know, fifth day sick, he's in bed, sexy pictures help.
I didn't know Twitter actually allows that.
There was some interesting stuff that was sent through the interwebs.
Oh, I have to go back and look at your feed.
You've got karma.
There you go, Arthur.
Yeah, there was some interesting stuff.
Anything good?
Go look at my feed, brah.
Bro!
Hey!
Hey, bro!
Don Lopez in Wyoming, Michigan.
$202.
I'll be in Michigan on the 19th, 20th, and so on.
Oh, are you doing a stand-up gig there?
I'm doing a stand-up gig.
I'll be at the Yuck Yucks.
We're going to try to do a meet-up or something.
At the Broken Funny Bone?
Cool.
Dear John and Adam, I've been saving YouTube revenues to become a producer for the past few months, but it was taking too long, so I said, what the heck?
They deserve it.
After all, I've been listening while I sculpt characters since January.
I haven't even donated.
Please cleanse me of my douchiness.
Oh, he needs a de-douching.
Now or wait?
Okay, give it to him now.
You've been de-douched.
Oh, and if...
I might as well do this in the right voice.
And if each of you would describe the other as an animal, what would it be?
I'll make you both into Rapids...
Oh, he's doing sculpting.
So he's at JonathanLopez.com.
P.S. I know this is late, so I will consider this a donation for the Thursday show.
Well, you're not late.
So, if you were to describe me as an animal, what would you describe me as?
Pushy cat?
Okay, walrus.
A giant furry one.
I would describe you as a walrus.
You're a walrus.
Oh, walrus, thanks.
Well, they're cute.
Big fat thing.
You're not fat.
Okay, so anyway, that's it.
That's all we got is these three souls.
It was very surprising.
I want to let everyone know that we have a brand new BitTorrent sync secret.
That's what they call their little code in order to sync up the new No Agenda shows that we've been releasing.
Somehow it broke.
Of course, this stuff is still in beta.
So if you did not receive your...
You're probably not hearing me if you didn't get it because you couldn't get the show.
Unless you went to download it.
I love how people...
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Well, I don't know.
Old-fashioned way.
Click on the link.
I know I get that too.
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iTunes doesn't have it.
I'll never be able to hear it.
Well, you know, I have like a link on my website.
Download.
You can download the file.
There's a million ways of doing it.
I know.
Anyway, the new BitTorrent Secret, there's a link in the show notes under the PR section, so go take a look at that.
And thank you to the producers who came in today and did help us out, although we need a lot more support for what we're doing.
I know it's tough with tax and all that, but step up, people.
Come on, I'm here.
I'm from my deathbed.
He's working from his deathbed.
I am working from my deathbed.
Here's what you do.
And of course, you can always help us by going out and propagating the formula.
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All right, we're now at one hour and two minutes, and it hasn't broken yet.
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Hold on, I'm just going to take my corset in.
Hold on, one second.
You have to take your corset off?
Yes, I'm going to take my corset off.
Hold on one second.
No, it's quercetin.
Quercetin?
Yeah.
What the heck is quercetin?
Quercetin.
Oh, quercetin is, let's see, what is the...
How do you spell it?
Q-U-E. Yeah?
Quebec Uniform Echo Romeo Charlie Echo Tango India November So quercetin is an anti-inflammatory herb or something, I don't know.
Is it a doctor prescription or is it just some crazy stuff?
No, it's voodoo stuff.
From the voodoo guy?
Yeah, from the voodoo guy.
Yeah, you've been sick a lot ever since you started going to this.
No, no, that's not true.
I've had allergies worse.
I had allergies the first year in Austin, and then I found the voodoo guy and he fixed it.
But then we moved to this new place under the oak trees, and I've gotten all these other allergies, and I'm just learning how to control it.
Huh.
So the mold I have kind of under control, but when it's really severe like this, and it's been off the chart for months, I have to take two quercetin every hour, which is my own prescription.
And then, because it shrinks your brain.
It shrinks your brain?
Yeah, my brain is swelling because of the mold, and that's why I get dizzy and fall down.
Let me read this quercetin thing.
This sounds horrible.
Somehow, ladies and gentlemen, he manages to do the show.
This is what you call a trooper.
Yes, thank you.
I deserve that.
It's a flavanol.
In other words, it's a paint pigment.
With a plant pigment, sorry.
With a molecular structure, like flavone, found in fruits, vegetables, blah, blah, blah.
Okay, occurrence, biosynthesis.
What's bad about it?
Nothing.
Antiviral, apparently it's antiviral.
Yeah.
It's good for asthma.
It's an effective bronchodilator.
Helps reduce the release of histamine.
That's nice.
So you like it, don't you?
It's anti-cancer.
It's good for eczema.
This is good stuff.
Anti-inflammatory.
Fibromyalgia.
This is something interesting.
We'll have that all over.
This is good stuff.
That's why you could take it.
It's contraindicated with some antibiotics.
It may interact with floral...
Oh, that stuff.
Yeah, I don't take that.
It competitively binds to bacterial DNA gyrase, whether this inhibits or enhances the effect of...
What are you reading?
Wikipedia.
It's actually got good stuff on drugs.
Sure.
It's not like that drug site, though.
I always forget the name of it.
Every known new drug, these guys take it.
Oh, no, I like that.
That's cool.
Then they write these long, you know, episodic things about the...
I tried injecting it.
I love those.
I tried injecting it, and then I was...
They snort it.
They snort it.
They take it anally.
They inject it.
They do everything to determine the right high.
Now, those guys are...
You know, some people admire Neil Armstrong and astronauts.
Those guys, I admire them.
Yeah.
Yeah.
The president had his little podcast going again.
We haven't heard from him for a while off the podcast.
I only have 13 seconds because his podcast is lame.
I mean, seriously.
No album art.
It's sloppily edited.
He's lost his heart.
He's a short-timer.
He's a lame duck.
And it's annoying because he does this to me a couple times a year.
When he tells me what his number one priority is as president.
Now, I know what the number one priority is as president.
It's to defend the Constitution.
Are you sure?
Well, that's what I've always understood.
Hmm.
Well, get jobs.
I don't know.
Of course it should be to defend the Constitution.
That's exactly the point, but that's never what he says.
My number one priority as president is doing whatever I can to create more jobs and opportunity for hard work.
I mean, really?
That's your number one?
The number one priority?
I think defending the country would be evil.
No wonder Al-Qaeda is trying to blow us up.
He's doing a crappy job if that's his number one priority.
I mean, really crappy.
Hey, hey, hey.
Hey, Mohammed.
Yes, what's up, Abdul?
He's trying to create jobs.
Now's our time.
Let's go.
Al-Akbar!
Well, there's nobody out there doing that.
We have big election coming up in the Eurozone, in the Euroland.
I believe this is the month.
This is the month where millions, nay, hundreds of millions of Eurolanders are going to vote.
Very interesting this time around, where we have, and you're going to start to see the propaganda flowing very, very soon.
It is already working quite well.
So we have a number of parties who are, you could collectively call them the Euroskeptics.
Yeah, they're cropping up everywhere.
Well, so in France, it's Marine Le Pen.
Right.
In Portugal, it's the FPU, I think.
No, that's Germany.
You have one in Portugal, you have in the Netherlands, you have the Party of Freedom, that's Geert Wilders.
And they're making a lot of noise about working together to turn back a lot of the political machine that is the EU. Now, the consistent message, the way I hear it from people like Nigel Farage and from Geert Wilders,
and to a certain degree from what is translated from Le Pen, is we definitely want a European Economic Partnership, But the fact that now 70-80% of most laws are created by unelected bureaucrats in Brussels, that's the main thing they want to turn back.
And if they could, they would all like to actually get rid of the euro, too, because there's some problems.
And they're doing something like four laws a minute.
Yeah, yeah, it's crazy.
And what you're seeing in the media...
In the UK, it's really rampant.
Anyone who's a Eurosceptic Is going to be called a right-wing, racist, nutjob, conspiracy theorist.
This is pretty much what they're doing with Nigel Farage.
And we have producers who listen to this show who have bought into that.
Oh, yeah.
Farage is an idiot!
Yeah.
I mean, this one guy read us the Riot Act about Farage saying this party, nobody takes it seriously, even though they're now being taken very seriously.
Yeah, this is why...
This is why the media, who of course are complicit with the incumbents, this is why they are starting to spout the racist Nazis, right-wing crazies, neo-Nazis, you'll get this.
You're going to hear this about all of these different parties, because the incumbent...
Um, Eurocrats are very, very worried that people are actually going to start voting for these parties.
And I think, I think we are seeing a change.
And Geert Wilders did an interview with, I think it might have been RT. Oh yes, RT with Sophie Shevardnadze, who was a very irritating woman.
And she makes those arrogant Russian woman faces when she's listening to someone.
So I cut her out of this.
Here's Geert Wilder's just two quick clips about this, but I thought it would be interesting for people who are interested in, I don't know, what's going on in the world, but they don't seem to get it from their traditional news sources.
So we have to root around and find it for you.
Here's Geert Wilders really laying down the truth about the European Union and the organization, not so much about Europe as a whole and how Europeans want and should be working together on an economic level, but the bureaucracy that has become the European Union.
What happened in the last decades is that our national sovereignty in the European Union collapsed.
There came a European super-state of all European elections that nobody in Holland or in Belgium or in the United Kingdom, nobody not only knows them, but nobody voted for them.
And they are in charge now of almost all the law-making process in our own country.
So we lost our identity, we lost our national sovereignty, To the European Union, an institution that really a lot of people in the West don't like so much anymore.
I have nothing against Europe, but I have a lot against the European Union as an organization.
And what we want, we want to regain control over our own borders, over our own money, over our own budget.
All rights that we have given to the bureaucrats in Brussels, and we want it back.
I mean, everybody knows that Spanish people are different than Swedish people.
My own Dutch people are not the same as Portuguese.
And it's a good thing.
There is not a European people.
It doesn't exist.
I mean, several countries exist.
So I believe we should cooperate in an economical way with the internal market and trade between one another.
Everybody can benefit from that.
But we should stop with the political project called the European Union because that's a big failure, to be honest.
Sounds like a neo-Nazi to me.
Oh, racist.
Super racist.
He said the Portuguese are different than the Swedes.
That's right, racist bastard.
Yeah, and believe me, the media, and of course, guys like this and Farage, they attract nutjobs, no doubt about it.
They do attract, you know, racists.
Our show attracts nutjobs.
Yes, thank you, thank you.
So of course it attracts nutjobs, and they say, and with Twitter, they're, and this is actually kind of fun to see how Twitter is such a great system for people to foul up.
You know, you get these nutjobs all over the place, by the way.
Every single political party.
And they just spout off and then, whoop, they gotta go.
You know, you gotta get rid of them.
But the leaders in this case, I think they're spot on.
And actually, here's Wilders giving you the rationale as to, you know, why this has to be turned back.
Which is, we always play Farage and he's a lot more entertaining.
I'll give you that.
But this Wilders guy, he's a pretty straight shooter.
It started in a good way.
And I wish it should have stayed like that, because it started with economical cooperation.
And I believe in economical cooperation.
I believe in free trade.
Everybody, every country can benefit from trading with one another.
After the 50s and the 60s, the 70s, the 80s and later, it became a political project.
Instead of an economical cooperation and free trade, it changed into a kind of European super state where politicians try to make foreign policy.
You see what happened in the Ukraine, what a mess they made about it.
They try with one coin, one currency, with the Eurozone, they try to be stronger economically.
And it It was a disaster.
The western countries, the northern part of Europe paid for the southern part of Europe and our economy did not grow in the last year.
The Netherlands had more economical growth before we entered the Eurozone than after we were part of the Eurozone.
And Europe didn't bring peace either.
Once again, the example at the Ukraine where they made a big mess of it.
But also in the former wars in Yugoslavia, look at Bosnia.
Europe did nothing.
It were the others like America that came to help.
So Europe was not good for our sovereignty, was not good for our economy, is bad for foreign policy.
So I believe we can be far better off outside the Eurozone and outside the European Union.
And more and more, not a majority today, but more and more people in any European country share this view.
So I really believe that the elections later in a month's time will be historic in our continent, Europe.
Right wing race is not job.
Oh, yeah.
No, no doubt about it.
Yeah.
Nut job.
You can just wait for it, and people will say...
Well, they'll send in the articles.
These guys will be vilified as crazy nationalists, which is...
Nationalists is bad.
Code for Nazi.
Yeah.
No, and in fact, the only country benefiting from the Eurozone, and if you want to mention the word Nazi, is Deutschland.
Germany's doing very well for itself.
In fact, they're essentially...
In some ways, outside of the...
They run...
They've essentially suppressed the EU in their favor.
And now play this clip.
This was a...
This is the China and Berlin clip.
And this is a clip that...
I listened to the McLaughlin report, and the show has gotten so poor that now they're doing...
Research packages where McLaughlin does a package that is so long, this is long, and this is only half of it, by the way, that actually does a pretty good job of giving you a briefing on what's going on.
And this has got, tell me, how is this benefiting the Eurozone?
It's not.
Close ties with China give Germany a foothold in Asia and Beijing a line of influence through Berlin.
In fact, the increase in trade between China and Germany, particularly in German exports to China, has exceeded all expectations.
Germany is China's number one trade partner in the EU. And the top foreign investment destination for German companies is China.
Based on this emerging economic symbiosis between China and Germany, A special relationship is now emerging.
China needs technology and Germany needs markets.
Structural similarities and shared economic interests are key for this emerging special relationship.
Germany's approach to China is mostly driven on the need of its exporters.
Germany's foreign policy is based on the idea that economic exchange will lead to political and societal change in China.
China sees Germany as the most useful country for its economic development.
Germany is an attractive partner because of Germany's prominent role in the EU, but also because of increased German dependence on China.
Item.
Nearly a quarter of EU imports from China go to Germany.
Item.
During 2010, Germany's trade with China grew by 34% to $181 billion.
China is now the second largest market for German exports outside the EU. Items.
Chinese demand is especially high for German machinery and cars.
China is the biggest market for the Mercedes S-Class.
Chinese officials are driven around Beijing in them.
The confluence of these factors makes Germany one of the most influential, if not the pivotal, foreign policy player on the world stage.
Angela Überahle.
Ha!
Well, you know that now everyone, after we reported on this months ago, AP and everyone's waking up and saying, hey, did you know that there's a train that goes from China to Germany?
This thing is cranking up, John.
And they got pictures and the containers are rolling out.
It's 16 days from Xinguang, in eastern China, through Russia.
Into Duisburg, into Germany, and they're bringing everything.
It's half the amount of time of the sea route, which of course includes the Strait of Malacca, which we own.
And we've got Angela hanging out with Barack Obama.
Do you really think that that charade was about, oh yeah, sanctions?
Bull crap!
Angela went there and said, listen...
You're going to stop doing...
You've got to stop this, brah.
I think she said it.
You must stop this, brah.
Well, something is definitely up in this Chinese connection, which is still outside the EU as far as I'm concerned with the so-called special relationship.
There's two...
For one thing, the Germans are naive about the Chinese.
Because at some point, the machining...
They're talking about machines like, you know, lathes and these things that help make other machines.
Mm-hmm.
They're shipping a bunch of that to China.
They're essentially going to clone the Mercedes.
I would say, and I'll put this in the red book, within the next decade...
Well, I agree with you on that.
That's a good point.
China will have a clone of any Mercedes, the S-Class, a really high-end...
Okay, it's hubris, John.
It's hubris.
And they may be right.
The Germans have always believed...
That you can do whatever you want, because honestly, you know, everyone's tried to, you know, Chrysler has tried to make, or Cadillac has tried to make, you know, emulate the Mercedes.
Everyone's, they're even doing commercials, like this is the American Mercedes.
They, and I think they're right.
I think if you look at some of the German engineering, there is no second.
So they're like, oh, go ahead, you can make off the knockoff stuff.
We sell the high end.
That's always been their business model.
They don't make a cheap BMW, John.
They don't make a cheap Mercedes.
Actually, they do make it cheap when they're using cabs in Germany.
Oh, I'm sorry.
I have one parked outside my door because they're so cheap.
Well, they don't bring the cheap ones over here.
They don't send the cheap ones to China either.
And I don't care what anybody says, the Chinese can do it.
We won't do it because we have accountants that go, wait a minute, this is not, no, we can't make this car at this price.
And we're not going to make a clone of a Mercedes, which I'm sure American technology can do, but it would cost too much.
I'd say the Tesla S is a good example of a Mercedes-like quality car, but it's $80,000 and you might be able to get a Mercedes cheaper and it may or may not have the same prestige as an S model.
But the Chinese can do it and they can do it cheap because their cost structures and the way they do their accounting is totally alien to anybody in the normal world.
Wait, you're saying it's not slave labor, it's just the accounting?
It's just a different gap standard?
As far as I'm concerned...
Explain that.
What does that mean?
How does that work?
Well, I mean, how does their whole economy work at all?
I don't know.
Slaves!
They lie about their profits.
This is a huge problem for the investors.
We don't see the Chinese as honest.
That was, again, revealed at that Edelman thing I went to, where they talked about, you know, honesty and who sees who is honest.
And the American public, the American corporations, the American government, we...
Have figured out that the Chinese as a whole are not people you want to do business with.
And we've heard these stories years ago where you'd go over there and then they'd steal your whole company essentially because they don't let you actually open a Mercedes manufacturing facility.
You have to partner with them.
And then the partnership dies and you end up leaving the facility there.
Okay, well...
The Germans are going to get screwed by the Chinese.
It's a two-way street.
Right now, the Germans are the gateway.
They're becoming the new gateway to Europe for China.
So your next iPhone is going to come to the United States through Germany.
It'll probably be released in Europe before it gets released here.
It's not an uncommon thing for these companies.
By the way, I just found this out.
Let's see, where is it?
The Chinese, they are expected to win control of the largest port in Greece.
That whole sell-off.
Oh!
Yeah!
So they've got the gateway to Europe and Greece, which saves them...
A whole bunch of hassle.
Costco.
Chinese government-owned shipping and logistics giant Costco.
That's not Costco where you shop, is it?
No, it's COSCO. Yeah.
As opposed to COST. Oh, okay.
This is Costco.
Yes.
Costco.
Yeah, so they are expected to complete the purchase of a controlling stake in the Piraeus port.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So they're very, very smart.
They're all over this.
And, you know, they're tight with the Russians.
This is the real game that is happening.
And to me, ah, man, can we do an accelerated election?
Can we get Obama out now and get Hillary in?
We need her.
And I think she's actually already positioning herself...
Now, and trying to suck the oxygen out of the room, and she's doing a pretty good job here and there, she's got to start talking policy and start making some moves and making some noise, because Kerry is too dumb.
Obama is weak.
Literally weak.
And I don't know, is there anyone still around him who wants to do anything, or do they all just...
They're all like, whatever.
I think they're all tired, really.
They want to drink those fruity drinks.
Fruit-flavored drinks.
Because just look at it, man.
And when you see how this train thing is going, this is a big deal.
This is really, really big.
No, the train thing is really big.
And I'm not so sure that Germany is on our side in this Ukraine kerfuffle.
In fact, Agent Orange sent me...
Why would they be?
Exactly.
Why would Germany be on our side on anything?
We're still essentially a competing party, and we play dirty, and they're just going to cozy up to China, because we've put the limit.
We do...
Like I said, we don't trust China, and we treat them that way.
The Germans are all in.
If you want to understand what kind of money is at play here, and I can speak and read German.
I try to get translated articles, and they do have English articles.
But if you look at BASF, Huge, huge chemical company.
Pharmaceuticals, everything.
Siemens, Volkswagen, Adidas, Deutsche Bank.
Deutsche Bank.
Hello?
Germany is a major, major player.
And then we think it's all cute when Obama and Angela are in the Rose Garden together.
And this is the best that President Obama can come up with.
Oh, wow.
Why is that not playing?
Hmm.
Hold on a second.
Let me try that again.
The various Russian mouthpieces that are out there.
You've also seen suggestions or implications that somehow Americans are responsible for meddling inside Ukraine.
I have to say that our only interest is for Ukraine to be able to make its own decisions.
And the last thing we want is disorder and chaos in the center of Europe.
So for the German audience who perhaps is tuning into Russian TV, I would just advise to Has this guy ever been to Germany?
When he was there at the gate, did he watch any German television?
No one's watching Russian TV. Watching Disney Channel.
What is he talking about?
Exactly.
This is completely stupid.
This is this preoccupation with RT. Yeah.
There are about 50 people that watch RT. We're two of them, and we only watch it once in a while.
When there's hot chicks on, and that's rarely.
I mean, it's like, you know, Free Speech TV, RT, the Home Shopping Network.
The Home Shopping Network channel gets more viewers than RT. Yeah.
They don't even have numbers.
They don't even have overnights.
So the Germans are not in the Obama camp on this, or in the Kerry camp.
So here's from Bilt this morning.
Thousands of CIA and FBI Advisors Are now in Kiev Thousands According to the German media Bild, that's not a shit magazine No, no, that's a very reliable source Thousands are And you know what it is when the advisors are in You know what that means Yeah, they're making trouble Making trouble and burning Did we not have in the Red Book Did I not put Odessa in the Red Book I don't remember that
I have a feeling I put Odessa in because of the drugs.
I don't remember anything about Odessa.
If you have a chance, look it up.
But there was actually a very good piece on the BBC. One of our producers caught this and sent it to me.
This is Sir Tony Brenton.
He is a former ambassador to Russia from the UK. And he actually goes against the...
I think it's on the Today program.
He goes against the narrative of, oh, yes, we're going to be killing everybody and we're going to be fighting.
Because this, of course, is not what Russia wants.
Russia has no benefit to Ukraine falling apart, which is exactly why, and I just have to say, it's not even the EU. It's not the EU. This is the United States.
This is the neocon carry camp.
And Noodleman and her husband and his brother, these a-holes, they're the ones that are...
The only one shooting is the Ukrainian army.
That's the only people who are firing anything and lighting fires and killing people.
And this is to divide this country and turn it into rubble, which is certainly not to Russia's benefit.
Listen to the ambassador.
He actually lays out quite well.
And he goes against...
You can even hear the hosts.
It might be Paxman.
I'm not sure who it is.
He's even surprised.
Like, oh, really?
Because everyone's been so brainwashed into this idea that Putin is this crazy mofo and all he wants to do is turn the clock back 30 years.
And just wants it to be the way it was when we were the USSR! What do you make of the picture as it's developing now, is it, Ernie?
Well, it's very depressing, isn't it?
I mean, yesterday was the day of the biggest violence since the whole crisis began.
The society is obviously increasingly polarized.
We're sliding very visibly towards civil war, unless the West and Russia between them can sort it out.
Well, they've tried and failed.
Well, they have tried with the Geneva Agreement.
It's failed.
It looks as if it's obviously not working very well.
Russia doesn't want to invade Ukraine.
That simply makes things much, much worse from their point of view in all sorts of ways.
Right, but just to be clear about that, it doesn't want to invade Ukraine, not because it couldn't.
It obviously has the military wherewithal to do so, but the economic price of that would be huge.
Well, I don't think it's so much the economic price, so this is a matter of...
Oh!
Oh, wait a minute, but I've been brainwashed into thinking that, oh!
...war importance in economics to the Russian government.
It would land them in a shooting war, probably, with the Ukrainian army, which is unthinkable for them, and it would land them with ultimate responsibility for a bankrupt, ungovernable eastern Ukraine, which they don't want either.
So the Russian interest is very clearly in having a Ukraine, which is neutral, as they've requested, Where the concerns of the Russian population are protected, which they've also requested, but which they don't particularly want to run.
Now that ought to be an achievable set of objectives.
Western policy, meanwhile, unfortunately, sanctions and all that, is looking just increasingly self-indulgent and irrelevant.
No Western minister or official is claiming that sanctions are going to change Russian policy in the short term, and the short term is now what it's all about.
And while talking to Mr.
Putin may look very unpalatable, not talking to him is looking increasingly disastrous.
But, irrelevant is one word to you, self-indulgent.
In what sense?
In the sense that, in America, what Mr.
Obama is having to do is look tough for a right-wing Congress.
What is going on over here in Europe is the same.
Russia's done something.
We don't like it.
We need to be seen to do something about it.
There's nothing effective we can do, so we introduce slightly more sanctions each time, which, if they do anything, they further alienate the Russians and make it more difficult to do the ultimate deal we're going to have to do.
But what else could they do?
I mean, you may be right, you're absolutely right, self-internative, relevant, all the rest of it, but what could they do, apart from sanctions?
We've done some sanctions.
They've made no difference.
You keep on talking tough, but you find channels to Russia which will begin a constructive dialogue, and you restrain the Kiev authorities from pursuing their campaign in the East, if you can.
That's very true.
I mean, I don't think the Russians have as much control as everyone is claiming over the dissidents there.
I don't think the Ukrainians and we have as much control over the Western Ukrainians as everybody is claiming.
But if you can, you restrain them from pursuing their course in East Ukraine, which is leading to greater violence.
And it's fair to say, which is making much more difficult the moment when we could begin to see a resolution of all this, which is the presidential election on the 25th of May.
As the situation continues to deteriorate, the likelihood of being able to hold a presidential election which holds any credibility at all steadily goes down.
So here is now we're down to the real nitty gritty.
This is all about this election.
Which, of course, will be a sham.
And if you look at the players, all of a sudden we're hearing all this noise about the OSCE and the OSCE inspectors who have been kidnapped.
And they shouldn't have been there, but that's okay.
First of all, the OSCE... Which, this thing was created during the last Cold War.
This OSCE outfit, it is intended to propagate Cold War.
You've never heard of this thing before, unless you're as old as John and I are.
It's always been, you and this, you and that.
No, now it's OSCE. OSCE is the most important thing.
We've never heard of this thing.
And these, by the way, were not OSCE observers.
They were active duty NATO military officers.
They were from the Geilenkirchen intelligence base.
This is all bullcrap.
Now, let's talk about the Geneva Agreement.
Because I thought it would be interesting to look up this agreement.
You know, I like legislation.
I like reading this stuff.
So I'm in bed.
I'm sweating.
I'm drinking NyQuil, DayQuil, actually, to keep me going.
And that's what I call flu medication, John, to answer your email.
That flu medication is DayQuil.
It's basically speed.
I'm drinking speed in syrup form.
And I'm expecting this huge document.
I can...
It's four paragraphs.
Would you like me to read and share with you the...
This is what Watermelon Head Carrie is making such a big...
This is what it's all about.
You're not agreeing.
Oh, we have the Geneva Agreement.
Like it's on a big scroll.
Isn't that what you imagine, the way these guys talk about it?
That's what they try to promote.
At least it's bound.
Here it is.
The Geneva meeting on the situation in Ukraine agreed on initial concrete steps to de-escalate tensions and restore security for all citizens.
This is the actual document.
It has no paragraph points.
It's a one-pager.
All sides must refrain from any violence, intimidation, or provocative actions.
The participants strongly condemned and rejected all expressions of extremism, racism, and religious intolerance, including anti-Semitism.
Okay.
You don't have to do anything there.
All illegal armed groups must be disarmed.
All illegally seized buildings must be returned to legitimate owners.
All illegally occupied streets, squares, and other public places in Ukrainian cities and towns must be vacated.
So no one's done any of that.
Amnesty will be granted to protesters and to those who have left buildings and other public places and surrendered weapons with the exception of those found guilty of capital crimes.
It was agreed that the OSCE special monitoring mission should play a leading role in assisting Ukrainian authorities and local communities in the immediate implementation of the de-escalation measures wherever they are needed most, beginning in the coming days.
The U.S., EU, and Russia commit to support this mission, including by providing monitors.
So that's our, there's your monitors.
I'm sorry, we have our thousands of monitors are now in there, FBI, CIA agents, according to the Germans.
The announced constitutional process will be inclusive, transparent and accountable.
It will include the immediate establishment of a broad national dialogue with outreach to all of Ukraine's regions and political constituencies and allow for the consideration of public comments and proposed amendments.
Haven't seen any of that.
The participants underline the importance of economic and financial stability in Ukraine and will be ready to discuss additional support as the above steps are implemented.
That's the document that everyone...
This is this thing that everyone's talking about.
This is vapor.
Yeah.
I mean, I have to agree to more when I use an Apple product.
This is crazy.
Yeah, thank you.
Now the IMF, they are completely complicit in this rubblization plan.
We now have two articles from, so we have AP and Reuters.
And both citing Lagarde, saying, Here it is.
Reuters International Monetary Fund warned on Thursday it would be forced to redesign its $17 billion bailout for Ukraine and require additional financing if the country lost territory in its restive eastern region.
So you see how this works.
Oh, this is a good one.
This is the catch of the day.
This is really nasty crap.
Yeah.
So here's how it works.
And we got all our guys there to help it happen.
So you give them a billion dollars, which went to Putin anyway.
We got all our guys in there, and we say, okay, you want the rest of the money?
You got to kick everybody out.
How do we do that?
I don't know.
Go burn some people.
Oh, okay.
Well, but it's not working too well because our army's deserting.
I don't care.
We're not going to give you the rest of the money.
The president of Ukraine, what's his name?
Yats is the prime minister.
The president, he's walking around in combat fatigues now.
This is sad.
This is so sad.
What's happening?
What is the...
Actually, they got $3.2 billion.
I think a billion they get to...
I'll bet you not a single dollar went anywhere, except maybe $2 billion to Russia, to Gazprom, and $1 billion to some American companies to help bring the advisors in.
But this is it.
I've got to find this one.
Lagarde has this beautiful term for it.
She has this term, it's like changing the...
This is all economic hit, man.
Oh yeah, oh yeah.
To the extreme.
She talks about the economic outlook is changing, or the economic outlook will have to change.
That's code for, yeah, I'm sorry, we're going to have to change the deal.
That's literally what is being said here.
The deal we just shook on, by the way.
Yeah.
Oh, well, you know, the deal included the East.
You don't have the East?
You don't have Odessa?
We're supposed to run the drugs through Odessa.
Nah, nah.
I'm sorry, if you don't have Odessa.
So this is...
The place is going to be rub-lized.
Now, the...
So at issue here...
Let's look at the map for a second, John.
Let's just take a quick look here.
I need some help.
If we look at...
So let's look at Ukraine...
And then let's look at where...
So the pipelines are one thing for the gas.
We know that that's an issue, but that's going to be fixed.
We're going to ram it through either western Iraq, which of course now we've got the ISILP guys or whatever those morons are.
They're acting up between Syria and Iraq.
We have to run a pipeline from Qatar to get gas into Turkey.
That just has to happen because Ukraine is going to fall apart.
Right, which means any lines going through there will be torched.
Oh yeah.
So, yes.
And this doesn't happen overnight, but it is happening for real.
So we've got to write off Ukraine because the whole idea is rebelize that because the whole plan is to contain Russia, contain China primarily.
I'm thinking we've got to stop this train.
Now, the train, I don't have a map of the train route.
That's what I'm looking for.
So if you do...
Hold on a second.
For some reason, Google Maps is not being very nice.
I think it goes through Kazakhstan.
China?
What is...
It might...
What is...
Train to Germany.
Yeah.
I have to look at my other map.
The logical thing for it is it goes through Moscow.
You know, it goes straight through Russia.
Here's the China to Germany freight train makes Maiden Journey.
Yeah, that's the one we talked about.
So it goes to Dausberg.
And let me see.
What country does it go to?
Google's running slow today.
Yeah.
Recently.
I have exactly the same problem.
Funny you say that.
Let's see.
So I have the train from China to Dausberg.
Here it is.
Okay, so it runs through...
It goes...
Belarus.
Belarus.
That's what, that's, okay, Belarus to Poland to Germany.
Okay, so that's, it's running south of Moscow.
Yeah.
So it runs through Kazakhstan, south of Moscow, through Belarus into Poland.
So, and from Poland into Germany.
So Poland...
So it'll probably stop in Poland to drop stuff off.
Or pick stuff up.
It'd be interesting.
And then into Germany.
So, Belarus...
Is it going to where?
What city?
Is it going to Berlin?
Is it going to Leipzig?
Dausberg.
Dausberg?
Yeah.
Okay.
Delta Uniform India Sierra.
Dausberg.
Yeah, that's where it goes.
Alright.
Um...
So, Belarus, I would say, is in play then.
Because, you know, they're not going to make a big stink.
It makes sense.
Belarus, it's north of Ukraine.
That would be the place where I would look for some...
Or, or, or, surround it.
Start some crap in Lithuania first, which is above Belarus.
It's going to be hard to do this.
Well, we just need some Al-Qaeda to show up.
I think we can rebelize Ukraine because I think they're in play and it's happening as we speak.
And there's some interesting little...
If you look at the map, there's like a natural border which consists of a bunch of lakes and rivers that would naturally create an eastern Ukraine which could happen.
And then I don't think you're going to be able to do anything.
I think that train is...
I think all that's going to be at play is going to be the pipelines.
I think the train is a separate issue.
It's got nothing to do with this event.
Well, that's already happening.
I mean, that is what Syria is about.
Syria, and then we have western Iraq, eastern Syria, and we just had a report about that today.
Hold on, I can find it for you.
Where is it here?
We have...
Yeah, thousands flee rebel clashes in Syria's east.
At least 60,000 people have fled towns in Deir Ezzor province in eastern Syria, which has been the scene of fierce clashes between rival rebel groups, fighting between Al-Qaeda affiliate, Al-Nusra Front, and the breakaway Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant.
What is this?
It's like...
It's like Morris Day and the time.
I-S-I-L. Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant.
Who are these douchebags?
I don't know.
We've got to look this up.
This is the stuff that we're made of.
Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant.
I-S-I-L. It's like Gladys Knight in the Pips.
What is this?
Is I-S-I-L? Yeah.
Active group in Iraq and Syria, established in the early years of the Iraq War, pledged allegiance to Al-Qaeda in 2004, becoming known as Al-Qaeda in Iraq.
A variety of insurgents, including its predecessor, the Mujahideen.
Oh, it's the CIA! Alright.
So the gas needs to come from Qatar.
And it needs to go up to Turkey.
It has to happen.
And the pipelines are already there.
If we want to get it going through Homs, through Aleppo, this is where the pipelines are.
So this has to happen.
And then we can cut off Ukraine, and then we can deal with the railroad.
But I think the railroad is cranking up, John.
I'm seeing it everywhere.
This is a big story now.
People are like, oh, it's the new Silk Road.
Oh, we didn't know this was happening.
And, so, a producer pointed out to me, you'll recall I was moaning about the global entry system that I'd filled out.
Yeah, it goes.
Adam says, producer Ben, you mentioned the strange date format on the global entry website, year, month, day.
That happens to be the standard format in China.
I'm guessing the global entry program is pushing this format as an international standard for future IDs, passports, documents, etc.
I didn't know that.
I didn't know that either.
It's funny enough, I use that format for our files.
I happen to like it, but I didn't know that was the standard format in China.
Makes me wonder.
That would make sense.
One hour, 48 minutes.
We're still alive.
We have not crashed.
Yeah, no, I think you fixed whatever the problem was.
You know what the problem was?
Okay.
So I have everything on one computer now.
The whole show runs on one computer.
One MacBook Air.
Right.
Which is quite amazing when you think about it.
Just say it.
It's astonishing.
I don't like using the word amazing.
Okay, astonishing.
The problem was I was using remote desktop to control it from my other computer.
Okay.
And that was where the leak was?
Yeah.
So I spent hours looking through the crash logs, and it was a different application that would quit each time because it would run out of memory.
And then I started hunting around, and it turns out that when you use remote desktop on OSX, that has some kind of resource thing that it can mess with.
If you then do a write to the drive, it can crash it.
There's a million things.
It's shit product, basically.
Remote desktop.
So I'm just running it now.
The whole show right now is run on the laptop.
So you can go.
You can move.
Yeah, I'm good.
You know what?
And I'm ready for it.
You can be on the road forever.
Yeah, I'm from the law.
I'm going to show myself the Lord by donating to No Agenda.
Imagine all the people who could do that.
Oh, yeah, that'd be fab.
Yeah, on No Agenda.
Yeah.
In the morning.
Yeah, I'm running from the law regardless, my friend.
Sir Michael Allen, we want to thank a few people for our show 614's list of donors, including Sir Michael Allen from South Plainfield, New Jersey, Hyde, $150.
Greetings from the night of the railroad conductors and mover of homeless and drunks off the trains.
Ah, yes.
That's our buddy.
Yes.
I would like to say thanks for the night ring.
Finally got one.
And certificate.
Keep up the good work and see y'all on the trains.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
So I guess he works the East Coast.
We should get on that train.
If he works on a cellar, can he get us a discount for like a sleeper car so I can take one to ride down the coast?
I took the Crescent once down from Washington, D.C. to Atlanta just because it was cheap.
I'm going to a Comdex or some show in Atlanta, and I'm in New York, and it turned out to be cheaper to go to Washington, D.C., get on the overnight train, and go to Atlanta instead of spending a night in a hotel.
Yeah.
It actually saved me money.
And I slept in the car.
In the sleeper car.
It was nice.
It was a nice ride.
Yeah.
I don't know about sleeping in trains.
It's not really...
I'll never forget the time they told me, Adam, you're doing this documentary in Australia, and you're going to do something really unique.
You're going to do the Asia-Pacific line.
It's one of the classic...
All-time classic train rides.
They're right.
That's a very famous train ride.
Yes, it's 24 hours.
The most boring 24 hours in my life.
And they say it's the straightest train track, the longest stretch of straight train track in the world.
Yeah, I've seen pictures of this train.
It looks pretty boring.
You go through the nuclear testing grounds.
That's nice.
So there's no stopping or getting out.
And it's boring.
And it's slow.
Well, this ride was not boring.
It went through some nice scenery, and it was slow, too.
And they had a television and a bunch of movies you could watch, so I caught up on some movie watching.
And you can get Wi-Fi most of the time, so I could do my...
It wasn't what you describe.
It was better.
But it wasn't, you know, it wasn't fast.
Anyway, onward.
Um...
Sir Andrew Holcomb in Ann Arbor, Michigan, $144.45.
I completed my knighthood last week, but mistyped my own email in PayPal, thus screwing up the accounting.
Rather than fight, I decide to donate again.
Take that.
This is Sir Andrew, protector of the bound books.
Read something, slaves.
Yeah, there you go.
Thank you, Sir Andrew, protector of the bound books.
And I agree.
Abel Kirby, a.k.
Abel Kirby.
$120 from Broomfield, Colorado.
Please credit Abel Kirby.
It's kind of nice when you have so few donations that we can actually read the notes.
So here's the idea.
If you want your note read, don't donate.
Which makes no sense.
Yeah, I think that's the way to go.
I like it!
We got two of these 999ers.
Marjorie Popico in Hiram, Georgia.
And this is a birthday call, which we'll throw in.
Clark Pruden in La Jolla, California.
Onward, Ahmad Meehan in Calgary, Alberta, where all the money is $72.
Dean Turbin in Botany, New South Wales, $70.
David O, $66.66 in San Francisco, California.
Brian Brown, $66.33 in Orange, California.
Olaf Wolf in Munich, Deutschland, $55.55.
Olaf Wolf.
Olaf Wolf.
Wolf.
Wolf.
Sir Simon Reed in New York City.
Double nickels on the dime.
Howard Abraham.
Rochester, Minnesota.
He must be Sir Howard by now.
Hey people, when you send us a note, first of all, there is a spot...
When there's instruction to...
What is it called?
Other instructions, I think, is the field.
That's where you want to fill in your note.
Yeah.
Because sending it to me is not always a sure way to get your note in.
And also, if you're in the producer list, there's no assurance we're going to read your note.
But if you have a title, if you have peerage, put it in there.
Make sure we know.
That's important.
Yeah, definitely.
Let's see.
Did we get to...
No, I'm just lower.
Where was I? Olaf Wolf.
Okay, so Simon Reed, New York City.
I think we got him.
Howard Abraham, double nickels on the dime.
Rochester, Minnesota.
Russell Rem in Spearfish, South Dakota.
One of the great names of a city.
Second only to Gnawbone, Indiana.
Double nickels on the dime.
Mike Williams, 5150.
Rancho Santa Margarita, California.
He liked my clip of Club 33 burning to the ground.
Some people liked it, some people didn't.
It was long.
I'm going to recut it to 30 seconds.
You'll do no such thing.
Anonymous, Newcastle, Pennsylvania, 5021.
Hold on, read this one because that was an important one.
My friends Riggs and Lesbo, their husband and wife, came down with cancer within a couple of weeks of each other and are going through chemo together.
Needs an F cancer shot of karma.
Yeah, I want to give lots of people need some F cancer these days, so let me do that for you.
You've got karma.
You know, if two people get cancer within a couple of weeks of it, that would, to me, hint at environmental issues.
Yeah, but, you know, I have always, I feel that cancer, you know, it's a self-destruct mechanism, and it's very, look, my mom died of cancer, and although technically it was lung cancer, I would say broken heart.
So, I think that there's emotional issues that play into cancer, and then environmental issues can trigger it.
But who am I? I'm a disc jockey.
Dave Carey in Claremont, Florida, $50.
These are all $50 donors now.
Adam Willis in Washington, D.C., $50.
Matthew Januszewski in...
What do we got here?
Oh, sorry.
Matthew Januszewski in Chicago.
Michael Palowski in Chicago.
That's interesting.
Two in a row.
And...
Sorry, I gotta move the cursor here.
Amr Abedala, Houston, Texas.
Elias Kakesh in Hiram, Georgia.
James Butcher in Dalwinu in Western Australia.
Matthew Hamilton.
I have a note from him that I have to read.
I just turned on the ionizer for a minute here, so I'm just going to be quiet and listen to you read.
I need to clear out some of the air.
I'm dying.
I'm dying here, John.
This is a $50 donation to be matched by Sir J.D. Oh, yeah, that's the matching donation.
Yeah, Sir J.D. is still on.
To bring it to 100.
Dear John and Adam, the mother of my girlfriend of two years is a sixth grade math teacher.
She and I talk regularly about Common Core and its effect on school curriculum.
Here are some depressing tidbits.
Woo!
Quote, unquote, measures of central tendency will be renamed measures of center.
Whoa.
Range is going to be renamed to variance and more, but...
But these come to mind.
Why are we renaming standardized terms as beyond me?
More lunacy to follow in the next donation.
You know what?
This Common Core is so bad that even reading emails about Common Core is confusing.
Yeah, and that one was particularly confusing.
And now finally, our last $50 donor, our last donor, which is our anonymous broke performing artist lesbian.
Oh!
And she has a note because we find that she's a performer.
By the way, and it's a performing artist, not a performance artist.
Oh, okay, there's a difference, yeah.
There's a huge difference.
She says in the note, I'm a classical musician.
Oh, damn it.
I thought that I made art nobody cares about was a dead giveaway.
That's so not true.
You listen to classical music.
I have classical music.
I've been playing classical music.
All the time, right?
24-7, since 1972.
That's true.
It's true.
And is this from a streaming source since 1972?
It's from the local classical music station.
Only one left.
There used to be a few to choose from.
And I stream it through a very high-end receiver.
It's beautiful fidelity.
It sounds very nice.
And it goes through a set of about six speakers and a huge 15-inch subwoofer.
And it plays at low volumes in the front room.
All the time.
All the time.
It's like a doctor's office.
It doesn't sound like, no, it's not like that.
There's too much bass.
No, we listen to classical in the car all the time.
You know when you're just driving around, and by the way, it's always the classical station that has the best signal.
Hello.
They've always got the booming, rocking, you know, 18 million gigawatts.
They have a good signal at this place, too.
Anyway, she goes on.
She says, don't worry, gentlemen, although I definitely look dikey, my hetero male friends assure me that I am very, quote-unquote, doable.
Well, send a picture!
Especially if I take off my sensible shoes.
Oh, well, yeah, that's always a bummer.
And then she says, thank you for your courage.
But what does she play?
I hope it's cello.
I did a little research.
And?
Violin.
Ah, that's good too.
But cello is such a sexy instrument for a woman to play.
You know, I think most violinists could play cello if they wanted to.
You know who used to play?
Who was that?
I hung out with her once.
Who was that actress or whatever she did?
No, no.
She used to do CBS. She was the host of the morning show.
Now I'm spacing on this.
I'm spacing anyway.
My head is exploding.
Time for my quercetin.
Anyway, that's all we got for our donation segment.
I've got to say, this is not okay.
Yeah.
It's not okay.
No.
We're providing value.
I watched six hours of C-SPAN. I have a 16-year-old kid here who's only going to be here for two weeks.
He's bored out of her skull.
He's like, I'm trying to be the cool uncle.
He's like, well, it was cool until you started watching these ugly people just standing around.
Are you insane?
So I'm doing that.
I'm taking notes.
I'm looking at all the morons.
We're getting clips.
I'm doing this for my deathbed.
I think we're providing some value.
We're giving you true analysis that you cannot get anywhere else of the upcoming elections in Europe.
Go ahead.
I defy you.
You won't find any of that information.
Any information about that, or some real analysis about what's happening in Ukraine, what the real deal is between Russia, China, and the United States, and how the EU fits into it, how the Obama administration is completely powerless against the skull-and-bones, neocon, State Department, John Kerry cabal.
But okay.
Yeah, and how Berlin is duplicitous when it comes to China.
Yes, and Moscow.
And Moscow, and so we have to deal with that.
Nobody's talking about it, except an obscure...
We can get it.
I mean, it's out there, but it takes a lot of work.
Well, where you're filtered.
You do not have to...
You can happily watch anything you want, enjoy the entertainment, but all you have to do is tune in to us to get the real news.
And it's healthier for you.
As we know, stress can be transmitted via television.
And let your kids listen.
We also make you feel a lot better and give them less anxiety about we're not all going to die from climate change.
I forgot to do this on the last show, but one of our producers, he's an architect, I think, or architectural engineer.
Now, these green buildings, this is real.
The ones where you grow the food on the roof, and then you have the restaurant in the building.
Right, and my prediction on all this is rats.
Yeah.
He said, there's a whole new testing thing you have to go through to be certified for this.
It's a whole bonanza.
Yeah, more scams.
The U.S. Green Building Society.
It's crazy.
They would love to make you have a certificate, to get a permit to grow vegetables in your own backyard.
Oh, yeah.
It's hard to have chickens in most towns.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
And chickens are extremely valuable.
They eat the bugs in the backyard.
They give you eggs.
Shh, don't tell.
Mickey wants chickens, and I don't.
So, shh.
Oh, chickens are great because of the eggs.
We get eggs from Farmer Chris.
Are they got the real dark yolk?
Oh, Farmer Chris's eggs are the best.
Oh, then you don't need chickens.
And he saves the big ones for us.
We can get you off chickens if you need a lecture.
I can personally give her the lecture.
If you want me to get her not to have chickens, I got that down too.
Well, I'm already there.
The bug-eating thing.
I got anecdotes.
Anyway, long story short, you need to support the show.
If you get any kind of value, and of course we highly appreciate the people who come in every single month.
There's people who do $50 a month, $33, $33, $12, $12, $11, $11, $5, $4.
That's really appreciated.
Do whatever you can, but help us.
This is the only way that this show can continue, and it's your show, so it's up to you.
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Happy Birthday, says Marjorie Papico.
To my incredible husband, Matt, he'll be 33 on Tuesday, May 6th.
I was hoping to donate $333.33 for his 33rd birthday, but three times $333.33 is the best we can do right now.
And she did donate $99.99.
The Getting Together Karma you gave us last year for his birthday worked.
Of course, we're still living the mac and cheese life, but at least we can share the box now.
Chiropractic School for Matt and I finally found the job after six months.
Although our monthly donation isn't much, we never stopped donating when I was out of work.
That's how much we value and love the show.
Keep up the great work and here's to a magical year for Matt.
And happy birthday from all your buddies here at the best podcast in the universe.
It's your birthday, yeah!
That's a beautiful note.
That was a good note.
It's funny, we were talking about women and, did I write that down for this show?
Let me see, I think.
Let me see, I had an email about that.
Well, talking about women, there's one little news item that keeps cropping up and is bothersome.
Oh.
Which is, what is the deal with the, especially Chase Bank, cutting off all his strippers?
Right.
And porn stars from their bank accounts.
Right.
So this is, and several people have emailed me about this.
This is the clearing accounts.
So if you have a porn business, online porn, or if you're a webcam girl or something like that, You'll typically go through one guy who has an account, a credit card account, who's in good standing with a bank like Chase, and he'll take a small percentage to clear your transactions.
And Chase has been closing these accounts.
Now, this is part of...
I had this in the show notes one or two shows ago.
There was an initiative from the Obama administration that even had a name like Operation Stockholm or some crazy name like that, which is to shut down all of these go-between guys.
And, of course, the problem is if you have an online porn business, you're just not going to be able to do it anymore.
You're not going to be able to get any kind of transaction account.
And it's very possible that this will hit us one of these days.
Well, they say a lot of the private accounts have been shut down.
The stripper, or just the stripper, the porn girl.
The webcam girls.
Well, the girl Stoya, who is a high-end porn star, one of the AVN winners, as a matter of fact, she doesn't do that stuff.
She doesn't do webcams or anything else.
She's just a straight-up porn star.
That's beneath her, please.
Yes.
And she got cut off.
It's all outlined in her Twitter account.
Well, yeah, but she probably has her own website.
She probably sells stuff.
Here's the problem, the way I see it.
There's a high amount of returns on the credit card.
So here's how it goes.
Guys, you know, it's like, oh, I'm horny.
All right, let me go find some porn.
And then he's looking around.
He finds Stoya.
He's like, oh, crap.
Oh!
Oh, I don't get to see the cum shot.
Oh, let me swipe my card and I can get the extended video.
And then he gets his first bill and it's like, it doesn't even matter.
It's like 10 bucks and his wife goes, what?
He says, oh no, that's a false charge, honey.
I didn't do that.
And then they claim, they go to the credit card company and say, oh, we didn't make this charge.
And it's reversed.
And there's a high amount of this on these porn sites.
So ultimately, I would say it is the crappy customers to blame.
Well, we're going to definitely get notes because it's probably true that we have some of these people listening to our show.
I'm not sure that what you just said is the reason that this is going on.
According to at least the article that was in the Welcome to the Beta, one of the Vice Magazine's magazine, it's online.
They talk to bankers about this, and the guys, the bankers are irked about this.
It's the Justice Department that's telling them to do this.
Oh, so that does go back to that Operation Stockholm thing.
Actually, there's an operational name for this.
It's called Operation Chokepoint.
That's what it is.
Chokepoint, Stockholm, same thing.
Yeah, thank you.
We had that in the show notes.
We just never got to it.
Right.
And what does it say?
What is this Operation Chokepoint?
What is it about?
Because I forgot.
It's a Justice Department deciding, supposedly, and this is all speculation on the part of Vice's writers and I think some of the women, that the Justice Department has decided that certain businesses in the United States need to be shut down.
Yeah, the payday lenders is what this is about.
And payday lenders is one of them.
So they're going to kill all the...
You've got a personal account, you happen to own a payday lending operation, you're probably going to get...
Here it is.
There's other ways of dealing with people like payday lenders.
There used to be ursery laws in this country.
In fact, there used to be lots of them, and you could not charge these ridiculous interest rates, and you couldn't create these kinds of things like payday lenders.
But if they had ursery laws today, the big losers would be the credit card companies.
You've seen how that scam works.
So they're just going to do it on their own.
You're going to force people out of business.
Well, then why are the bankers actually complaining if this is to benefit the banks?
It's not to benefit the banks.
That's the point.
Who is it benefiting, then?
It benefits the Justice Department that's been pressured to shut down certain businesses.
By whom?
By whom have they been pressured to shut this down?
This I don't know.
Okay.
Operation Showpoint is an effort born out of the Financial Fraud Enforcement Task Force.
A group created in 2009 as a kind of League of Extraordinary Gentlemen of Law Enforcement.
A drinking club of douchebags.
Including the Department of Justice, the Federal Trade Commission, Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation.
The DOJ handles the criminal aspects.
The FTC regulates business.
FDIC regulates banks.
The theory behind Operation Chokepoint is that by cutting off...
I'm reading from The Guardian, by the way.
Is that by cutting off the access that scammers and fraudsters have to banks, there would be less fraud.
To determine who the potential fraudsters are, the regulators came up with a blacklist of potential bad guys, credit card schemes, gambling, escort services, Ponzi...
This is ruining escorts?
Well, now we have a problem.
What next?
Beer?
What next?
Podcasters who say anti-government stuff.
Yeah.
No, no, that's coming for sure.
Let me turn off the ionizer.
Hold on.
No, I think people out there who listen to our...
It's funny because now I'm wishing that Bitcoin had worked out.
Well, that was never going to happen.
Did you hear how this went down with Bitcoin, by the way?
This is pretty crazy.
No.
Okay, so there's this group of investors who are buying Mt.
Gox.
And now remember, the FBI... The FBI... You know, has all these, has like the largest Bitcoin wallet.
And then Mt.
Gox went bankrupt in Japan, I believe.
And now there's this group of investors, which includes a former FBI guy, which coincidentally, and this ex-TV star kid, and they're buying up Mt.
Gox, and then magically they found a 200,000 Bitcoin wallet all of a sudden, and it looks like they're going to buy out some of the people who lost money in it.
And Brock Pierce is the kid's name.
Brock Pierce.
He was like a kid star in the Mighty Ducks.
And he was a part of DEN. Do you remember DEN? The Digital Entertainment Network?
Oh yeah, I do.
Right.
Which was a huge scam failure.
Yeah.
So these guys are all involved in it.
But this Brock kid, he was also mentioned in that recent scandal with the kid that was sodomized in Hollywood.
No, this is not ringing a bell.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I mean, of course, it's also kind of...
It probably happens a lot, but it's not ringing a bell.
Yeah, we did because Clinton's name came up in this as well.
Alright, well that's beside the point.
Anyway, so there's something really fishy going on with this.
The way Mt.
Gox went out of business, then they found 200,000 Bitcoins in a wallet somewhere in like a box.
And then these guys are buying it out.
With a whole new bunch of investors, including the Digital Entertainment Network people.
Very sketchy.
And a former FBI guy.
This thing reeks of, well, honeypot, A, and also scam.
Big, big scam.
I had that still written down, so I want to make sure we talked about it.
Yeah, okay.
Back to the war on men.
From Jennifer.
I am the wife you're referring to in show 612 trying to convince my husband of 19 years to be a Noah Jenner listener.
It was actually my very wise, quote, male-privileged, now 17-year-old son who discovered you through John via Twit.
Which is another fact, John, that Twit still gets us listeners.
So, don't piss Leo off.
You know, I've known Leo forever.
He's not that easy to...
Well, no, actually...
Never mind.
Here's what you do.
Here's how you do it.
Shut up, John.
Here's how you do it.
We never landed on the moon.
That's all you have to do.
Then you're good to go.
No, but Leo's like, you're right, Leo.
Yeah, exactly.
That's all you gotta do.
Therefore, my opinion is there's a small fraction of humans of both genders who enjoy your no agenda.
Walking upright does not guarantee intelligence.
Thank you both so much for the best podcast in the universe.
I'm sickened to know what is really going on, but glad nonetheless.
My previous reference to male privilege is the feminazi speak of my son's teacher, apparently.
It is a crime to be a male these days, especially white.
White women are so put upon.
Please, I will stop now.
Sorry for the long commentary, but you did ask the question.
Thank you, Jennifer, from...
Was it that long?
No, it wasn't at all.
Northern Mexico, she says, a.k.a.
Escondido, California.
Huh.
So, yeah.
Yeah, I'm sure that this is...
Thank you for your privilege, is what we should be saying.
Thank you for your privilege, John, for being a white man.
Well, thank you for your privilege.
It is, and I was actually noticing that during the correspondence dinner, when they had that video.
It was like, could they show more women in the video?
It was just, it was all women.
There was no dudes, and it was like, please, I want you to know we have black people and women.
Oh, the guy made a big point of it.
Yeah.
And the guy who runs the correspondence club.
Yeah.
And granted, it was, you know, granted that there were a bunch of racist a-holes, racist misogynistic dicks.
Apparently in the 30s they were.
Yeah, dicks.
So you were very right about Don Raff Grand Greenwald, as he is now on the speaking circuit.
Glenn Greenwald effectively has been castrated from reporting anything.
He will release his book, and he's prepping for that, and he's on the speaking circuit.
And he did, in Canada, Scandinavia, did the monk debate, which I'd never heard of before.
Apparently it's quite famous.
Yeah.
Have you ever heard of the Monk Debates?
I have heard of them.
I knew that this was going on, and I was thinking about listening in, and I decided against it.
Well, you would have had to pay for it.
Oh, I didn't know that.
To listen in on the internets?
For the live stream, you have to become a member.
Anyway, not anymore.
It's out there now.
Did you listen to it?
Well, I watched the whole thing last night from my deathbed.
And?
Well, it was Gren Greenrod.
This is how this show works, by the way.
One of us doesn't do anything, the other one does it.
It's amazing how that works.
It's astonishing.
I'm sorry, it's astonishing.
That's why I hope you lead a long and healthy life, John.
And you better hope the same for me, because I'm not doing too well.
Eh, you'll be fine tomorrow.
It was Gren Greenrod.
And the kid from Reddit...
So somebody wrote in, by the way, I'm going to interrupt you, saying, why does Adam keep saying Grand Green War?
And I didn't have an answer.
Because it's funnier.
Okay.
Because what we have...
Oh, you started doing this a long time ago, and I just didn't think much about it.
Well, it comes from this.
It comes from this particular bit.
Bump it up!
Why are you laughing?
Why are you laughing?
Don't, don't.
Shut up.
I know, because I... It's fine.
I like it.
You don't mind.
You don't mind.
No, I think it's enjoyable.
Thank you.
It's him and the kid from Reddit who founded Reddit.
What's his name?
Alexei?
Yeah.
Who is...
And by the way, Reddit is owned by Conde Nast.
It's not like some underdog.
I keep hearing about Reddit.
Oh, Reddit's so cool.
CondiNAS is a huge multinational that owns that.
You know, the multinationals own pieces of everything.
They own all of Reddit, as far as I know.
That's what I'd like to tell people, that mainstream media includes...
Reddit.
...Fox, Reddit, all these things.
These are all mainstream media.
We're the only, one of the very few outlets of true non-mainstream media.
So this guy seems like he's a bit like...
It's like if you wanted to draw a picture of the guy who got pulled out of college to become a CIA agent, this is him.
But he's on the Grand Greenwald team.
And he's like, drippy.
He's drippy.
And he's like, oh, I'm a nerd.
Okay, whatever.
Then we had, on the other side, we had General Michael Hayden and Alan Dershowitz.
I thought he was a divorce lawyer.
No, no, no.
Alan Dershowitz is a law instructor, and he is a notorious hyper-progressive, and he gets involved in a lot of crazy cases that are all civil rights.
But didn't he used to do divorce law?
Not that I know of.
Maybe I'm wrong.
Well, I'm sure I'm wrong.
Let me just check.
I thought Alan Dershowitz...
Divorce...
I thought he did high-profile divorce cases.
Not that I know of.
Am I thinking of somebody else?
Must be.
Probably.
You would be.
Yeah, must be.
It's the NyQuil.
It's the DayQuil.
All right.
So, it was pretty bland.
Yeah, why am I not surprised?
Yeah, I mean, and, you know, I think Gren Gringwell was...
And by the way, and Hayden is not going to be a good guy to put on a debate because he's going to be under indictment for war crimes.
He's not going to be able to say anything.
Hold on.
I only have clips from him.
Oh.
He was pretty funny.
Well, he can be funny.
I'd like to have a beer with the guy.
Here is, so I'm going to play it in reverse order.
I only have two clips.
Because really, there wasn't anything else.
Dershowitz was like, pfft, I want to listen to Dershowitz.
And that Lexi guy was just like, oh, the same technology that allows us to do selfies is being used against us.
Okay.
And, you know, Glenn Greenwald was just all over this saying, his regular thing.
So do you know what the NSA slogan is that is on all of their websites and their documentation?
I do know, but it doesn't come to mind.
Collect it all.
Oh, I didn't know that.
Collect it all.
And so Greenwald starts off...
It's like a hoarder.
These are hoarders.
The archive.
Yeah, hoarders.
Digital hoarders.
Yeah, they're hoarders.
No, you're right.
The NSA are hoarders.
Collect it all.
Which means they've got to screw loose.
Yes.
And so Greenwald threw out the...
Essentially, here's how the debate went.
Greenwald keeps bringing up this collect it all, collect it all.
Alexei keeps saying police state, police state, police state.
And Hayden and Dershowitz keep saying terrorism, terrorism, terrorism.
That is essentially the debate.
Wow.
Fascinating.
But at the end, after this whole half hour, 45 minutes of collect it all, Hayden says this.
NSA's mantra, collect it all, doesn't mean collect it all.
They drown, they can't use it.
What it means is they want the ability to cover any communications by any method at any time by those who would do you harm.
Trust me.
If what Glenn says is true, and if what Alexis fears is true were true, I'd vote for him too.
Kind of hard to hear, probably.
That was terrible.
What kind of audio did they feed you?
Yeah, that's shit.
But what he says is, collect it all doesn't mean collect it all.
Yeah, no.
Of course not.
And here's the only other thing.
Even though all the evidence in the case they were actually doing that.
Yes.
Talk about scare tactics.
I think it's out of phase.
I think something went out of phase.
I wonder if I can reverse the phase on this.
Talk about scare tactics.
We need to run the tape sometime.
And count how many times Alan and I said terrorism, and how many times Glenn and Alexis said surveillance state.
What do they really mean by surveillance state?
1.7 billion US emails a day collected?
No, that's just not true.
The surveillance state is out of control.
They're monitoring, just now, Alex, every single one of us.
We're gathering up the information on far more innocent people.
I need to know the what.
It's hard for me to counter that.
What is it you think we're doing?
I love the Snowden quote.
It covers your text messages, your web history, your searches you've ever made.
That's Google.
That's not NSA. Yeah, exactly.
Sorry, it was out of phase for some reason.
Yeah, no, you could hear it.
Yeah, it was out of phase, weirdly.
Yeah, it sounds like a waste of time.
But it was interesting how he slams Google, which of course is not the NSA, it's the CIA. Ah.
Right?
Yeah, that's the way it looks.
Now Hayden is making the rounds.
Hayden is trying to bolster his image.
Why?
Well, there's still a lot of...
Well, that paper that Feinstein said, that secret report that was supposed to be prepared by the Intelligence Committee of the Senate, that supposedly 6,000 pages cut way down, has damning evidence in there that he and his buddy Rodriguez and the other guy are essentially war criminals.
They green-lighted the torture.
Right, right, right, right.
So Hayden has got to make, you know, he's doing everything he can to make himself look good.
Well, he was on a different program.
This was in a, this was some...
Oh, by the way, book.
Right.
He was on a Think Tank chat show talking about the red line on Syria.
And I was reading, let's see, when was I reading this?
The intelligence community, but the neocons, everyone is so mad about what happened with Syria.
And of course, we know why, because the timing was perfect.
We had to rubblize the place, get the pipes connected, have the gas flowing from Qatar to Turkey.
Then we cut off Ukraine.
Everything was set, good to go.
And then Obama stopped it.
And here is Hayden talking about that.
The red line thing.
My raw emotion...
Watching it from the outside was just embarrassment.
I mean, as someone who has actually kind of played this sport, you kind of look at it and go, wow, it's like Casey Stengel and the, what was it, the 60-something Mets, you know?
Can anybody here play this game?
It just cost in so many ways.
That sounds judgmental, and it probably was, and I try not to do that being an intelligence officer.
I just don't understand.
That was a presidential speech.
I mean, it really was.
And a good one.
I mean, if you were going to go to war.
And so, we were all geared up for the Saturday morning announcement the next day, where the president would have said, reforming the American public, that two hours ago, and so on and so forth.
And he didn't.
What he said was, Dennis and I took a walk on the South Lawn last night.
And we decided, we'll toss this to Congress.
They'll decide.
I just, you know, the predict...
Sometimes the certainty of an action is far more powerful than the severity of an action.
And we've made everything uncertain, which actually makes you appear weak at some times, but also then demands that when you want to appear strong, you may have to be overly severe To overcome the uncertainty.
It's just bad all around.
There you go.
Cost us in so many ways.
Bad all around.
Weak.
That's some pretty big words.
He doesn't seem to be on board with Obama.
No.
No.
Or the public.
There's an interesting another one of these things that went on on the...
McLaughlin report about isolationism in the country, even though he tosses, this is the new isolationism clip, McLaughlin does his long package again, we only have again just part of it, and then kicks it over to Pat Buchanan, who I think misinterprets this, because I don't think Pat Buchanan knows what isolationism, modern isolationism is, which is what we are experiencing, which does affect foreign policy.
Let me try this.
A majority, 47%, say that the United States should be less active in world affairs as compared to 19%, more active.
30% believe the current level of activity is about right.
The 47% who want the U.S. to be less active is a new majority as compared to earlier years when similar questions were asked by these pollsters.
Only 14% of Americans wanted a less active role in 2001, 13 years ago, and 32% said the same in 1997, 17 years ago.
A similar poll done by the Pew Research Center last year showed a record number of Americans said that the U.S. should quote-unquote mind its own business internationally, unquote.
53%.
In 1964, 50 years ago, how many Americans said we should mind our own business internationally?
Only 20%.
Question, is America becoming isolationist, Pat Buchanan?
No, I would not say so, John.
Most Americans want to maintain diplomatic, economic ties with every country in the world.
They like the fact we're negotiating with Iran.
But what they are is they are anti-interventionist, anti-going into these unnecessary wars like Iraq and Afghanistan and Libya.
They're all fed up with that.
They don't want to fight in Ukraine.
They don't want to fight in Crimea.
So that element's at play, and Michael Hayden, of course, is old school, and he thinks that we should have bombed.
That would have been the phoniest thing to do, the Syrian bombing, that Obama wisely backed off of that.
And I don't think it's hurt him politically.
No, but it wasn't the setup.
It wasn't the idea.
In fact, it's not isolation of the United States, it's isolationism of China and Russia.
That's what it is.
That's what we're trying to accomplish.
The problem is what these guys don't understand.
And if they hired us, the Curry Dvorak Consulting Group, they would get the proper advice.
They started off really strong, blaming, making Putin hate the gays.
That was really smart.
That was really, really good.
It worked.
But they dropped it.
And the dogs.
The dogs were cute.
The dogs were great.
It was icing on the cake.
That was really good.
But they dropped that whole thing.
You've got to kill more gays.
You have to have Putin killing Ukrainian gays.
We need a rainbow flag.
We need gays crying in the streets.
Then you want to see something happen?
Then you'll see people jump to attention.
Are they blind?
Do they not see this?
This is so obvious to me.
I don't know.
You agree, right?
I mean, that's literally all they have to do.
Well, that's a primary strategy that can be continued, which they do.
Didn't do.
It seems to me, you know, of course a lot of this I still believe has to do with Snowden.
Yeah.
But they, first of all, they did much of that early smear campaign against Putin to kind of lessen the impact of the Winter Games, the Winter Olympics.
Right, right.
And it was all done prior to that.
And then after the Games were over, then they kind of, they dropped the ball.
They didn't think of this as a continuing strategy.
So right now the only thing they do is just Nothing.
They just bitch.
And then they send in these people, you know, troublemakers into Ukraine to help rebelize it.
But it's not the same.
But the propaganda side of it's missing.
You know, they had some good propaganda going and the public was lapping it up.
But they dropped the ball.
So now the mainstream media is all over...
Benghazi, Benghazi, Benghazi.
I love this.
I think it's just at the end of the show here, John.
I think it's worth reiterating our take on this.
This was...
They've almost got it right.
They're very close to the point.
They're getting closer.
They're getting close to what really went on.
We saw this...
And some people know what went on and they try to push in that direction.
They just can't come out and say it.
Right.
Then, of course, at the time, I was told by Tony the Terrorist in San Francisco...
I was a cab driver that the Tunisians had received the call.
We need you to go into Benghazi.
We need you to kidnap the ambassador and hold on to him.
And then this will be a surefire October surprise for the president to be reelected when he negotiates his freedom.
And I'm pretty confident that Hillary was in on it.
Oh yeah.
No, she was totally in on that because we saw her with a very pissed look.
Very pissed off.
Right after, right during this happened.
And then she blew up at Congress with what difference does it make?
Right.
And all the rest of it.
She was totally in on this.
Yes.
And of course, things went awry.
And the ambassador was not just killed.
I mean, this guy, they raped him with broomsticks.
It was horrible.
None of that's been reported.
None of that's been reported.
It really, really, really went wrong.
And I want to mention that people say, well, you know, Obama won.
What was he worried about?
We have to remember that during the election, the media goes out of its way to make the election sound like an even-Steven match.
Exactly.
Oh, Romney's ahead by a point.
And they're always down by a point.
He's ahead by a point.
Because this gives them money.
They get money from both parties that feel the need to advertise more.
Which is why campaign finance will never get through, by the way, because they're trying an amendment now we can talk about in the next show.
Yeah, I watched some of that.
So Obama's camp wasn't, except for there was like one guy who had it all figured out, but nobody would believe him because he was the only one.
You had Karl Rove coming on these TV shows guaranteeing that Romney would win.
Romney believed it, trust me.
I'm sure he did.
He was given the guarantee.
So it was a scam.
And so they needed this October surprise to shut the deal down, and the whole thing is laughable.
Yeah, and of course now it's being used politically.
I think it's actually good for Hillary Clinton.
I think that everyone loves this.
I think it puts her...
Right now it's pushing a lot of stuff off onto Obama.
I don't think it's as good for Hillary as you might.
I think the Warren camp may actually be part of this.
Could be.
Let's bring this up a little bit.
Maybe we can smear Hillary.
All you need is one thing like this to smear her.
She's done.
It's the same thing that happened with Chris Christie, the guy...
No, it'll take a lot more to...
Well, I don't think so.
Alright, it's okay.
I could be wrong.
I felt the same way you do before, but the more I... I have a couple clips to just laugh about.
First, here is...
Nancy Pelosi is so annoyed with all this.
And whenever Nancy Pelosi gets annoyed, it's funny.
I haven't seen that, but what I will say is, again, diversion, subterfuge.
Benghazi, Benghazi, Benghazi.
Why aren't we talking about something else?
Yeah.
Why are we talking about something else?
Because it's pretty interesting, Nancy.
That's why.
Here is National Security Council spokeshole Tommy Victor.
And this guy, he's been around for a while.
He's young.
And he's dumb.
He has no business being on television.
And this, I thought, was the funniest thing I've heard any spokeshole say when being grilled about anything.
But, of course, Benghazi is perfect.
White House.
You add a line about the administration warning of September 10th of social media reports calling for demonstrations.
True?
I believe so.
Did you also change attacks to demonstrations in the talking points?
Maybe.
I don't really remember.
You don't remember?
Dude, this is like two years ago.
We're still talking about...
Dude!
Dude!
This is like so two years ago, dude!
Wow!
He said, dude!
Listen to that again.
Dude, this was like two years ago.
We're still talking about the most mundane process.
And Brett Baer says, dude!
He does?
He calls him?
A few years ago, we're talking about the most mundane...
It is the thing that everybody is talking about.
We're talking about the process of editing talking points.
That's what bureaucrats do all day long.
Your producers edit scripts multiple times.
The key part is attacks to demonstrations.
Did you do that?
No, what is the question?
Did I edit?
Yeah, the CIA talking points.
It was edited from attacks to demonstrations.
No, Michael Morales testified about what he changed and what was changed in those...
Dude!
Alright, here's...
For those of you who want a little background, here's...
An extra email came out.
This is why this is all...
And you gotta wonder how this happens.
And this was Ben Rhodes...
Who I thought was one of the president's closest allies.
But anyway, somehow some FISA... Not FISA. FICA. FUCA. FOIA. There we go.
I got it.
Takes me a minute.
Some FOIA request finally got honored.
Yeah, it's rare.
And this is the hidden email.
Since late March alone, we have received over 3,200 new documents...
Many of which have never been seen before by anyone outside of the administration.
Why is this, John?
Why do you think all of a sudden these new documents pop up?
Elizabeth Warren.
Hmm.
Okay, possible.
And all of which, and I repeat, all of which should have been turned over more than a year and a half ago when the committee launched its investigation.
Some of these documents, which were brought to light only days ago through a four-year request by an organization known as Judicial Watch, show a direct White House role outside I'm going to repeat this.
The documents from Judicial Watches for you, which were pursuant to our request more than a year and a half ago, show a direct White House role outside of talking points prepared by the intelligence community.
The White House produced the talking points that Ambassador Rice used, not the intelligence community.
In pushing the false narrative that a YouTube video was responsible for the deaths of four brave Americans.
It is disturbing and perhaps criminal that these documents, that documents like these, were hidden by the Obama administration from Congress and the public alike.
Criminal.
That's some pretty big words Daryl is using there.
Yeah, no, that's a...
That's not good.
Particularly after Secretary Kerry pledged cooperation and the President himself told the American people in November of 2012 that, quote, every bit of information we have on Benghazi has been provided.
And they've now subpoenaed Kerry, so that's going to piss him off.
Oh yeah, he'll be snide.
Oh yeah, with his little sphincter mouth.
He is a horrible presenter when he is being...
When he's uncomfortable.
Yeah.
He gets mean, his tongue darts in and out.
Then we have, finally, this is Lieutenant Colonel Ralph Peters.
Now this is one of the guys from the Operation Pundit.
You retire, but you don't really retire.
You just get...
Well, if you notice, when Hayden spoke, he still said he is...
He didn't say, I'm a former intelligence officer.
No, when it was just...
He said, I'm an intelligence officer.
Oh, yeah.
As an intelligence officer.
Yeah, as an intelligence officer.
So, this is retired Lieutenant Colonel Ralph Peters talking about the president in regards to what happened in Benghazi.
Right.
We failed.
The administration failed.
The president failed.
And worst of all, this is part of a pattern for President Obama.
He can't make timely decisions.
He has no courage.
Whether it's Benghazi or Syria or Iran or now Vladimir Putin, For the first time in our history, we've had great presidents, we've had terrible presidents, we've had most presidents somewhere in between, but this is the first time we've ever had a president who's an outright coward.
Vladimir.
That's the new way to pronounce it.
Vladimir.
Vladimir.
Well, then that brings me right back to the true contender.
Joe O'Biden, this is the man.
He really believes he's the man for the job, and it's always funny.
And I've saved the best for last.
The guy is deluded.
So he is speaking at Chris Dodd's MPAA, the Motion Picture Association of America.
Hollywood, essentially.
And here he comes, Joe O'Biden, who, of course, he needs to speak to Hollywood because he knows, hey, you know, Jill.
I can't become president without Hollywood.
I gotta get them pansies on board.
He really truly believes it.
Here he is.
My great friend Joe Biden, everybody.
Listen to how important he is.
Hey everybody, how are you?
Hey everybody.
You're going to love this.
Well, if there have been rumors all those years when Chris and I served in the Senate that although I was chairman, he controlled me.
And we've just...
I've given new life to those rumors because I was physically a few minutes ago in a room for an hour and a half in a room called the Oval Office with Chancellor Merkel and the President talking about a number of things.
We finally turned to trade and I had to literally stand up and say, Mr.
President, I have to go over and talk about trade with Chris Dodd and his group.
I'm so awesome.
I just...
I was in this little room called The Oval.
And I said, hey, Merkel, hey, President, I gotta go.
Because I'm Joe effing Biden, okay?
Angela Merkel looked at me like, what in the hell is he talking about?
So there is no question that you've got the right guy with the right influence.
Oh, because I can just piss in the wind against Angela Merkel.
I'm the right guy with the right influence.
Look, I'm going to skip the introductions because I'm supposed to go back and have lunch, a working lunch with Chancellor Merkel.
But...
I want you to know that it's not for lack of interest, and we wish I could stay longer.
I'm incredibly busy.
I have a working lunch with Angela Merkel.
Joe's out of his mind!
Wow.
Isn't that great?
Don't you love that?
Yeah, the guy's just name-dropping and just preening.
He's preening.
So now let's get down to the nuts and bolts of why I'm here for you people.
Today, the face of piracy in your industry is changing.
It used to be a man, not too many years ago, sitting in a movie theater with a camcorder, trying to go unnoticed inconspicuously.
And that camcorder was about the size of a golf bag.
Yeah, that was in 1932, Joe, but okay.
That's why no one's laughing.
What is Joe talking about?
Recording the movies that they were going to pirate.
Though the cameras are obviously smaller today, to a remarkable extent, this practice continues.
But now the face of piracy is also a computer server in a far-off country.
Stealing an illegal version of a Hollywood movie to send it around the world with the click of a mouse.
There you go.
Through the series of tubes.
That's all that you had to say.
It would have been perfect.
And rob you.
Rob you.
Steal from you.
Steal from you.
What is yours?
It's yours.
The technologies evolve, and so must our laws, including internationally.
To deal in a way that's tough and smart, As well as persistent.
With those who engage in large, stale, stealing of illegal, copyrighted...
Joe's losing it now.
Infringing on movies and music.
Don't infringe on my movie.
That's nasty.
Get a tissue.
The mega upload websites enabling mass theft.
Those douchebag mega upload websites.
In the same way laws are around the books to do offline on the books.
There you go.
There you go.
Joe's a copyright.
He is the copyright president.
That's who Joe is.
And then he said, this is my last clip on this, he wound it up with this gem.
The question is, how do we create a global economic order that favors creativity and innovation?
A global economic order.
I love that.
Just say new, Joe.
Just say new world order.
Come on, say it.
The question is, how do we create a global economic order that favors creativity and innovation everywhere?
That's what I want to talk to you a little bit about today.
Of course, each society is different and some are fundamentally different, but there's a certain common ingredients that make up success.
Basic liberties so citizens can think and speak freely and journalists can tell people the truth and even tell people what is not the truth.
What?
What?
What does that mean?
What is he saying?
Let's listen to that again.
Can tell people the truth and even tell people what is not the truth.
Okay.
What is up with that?
I don't know.
I think it's just more bumbling from this guy Biden.
Just want to live in a society where journalists can tell people what is not the truth.
Oh, man.
Alright.
Are you doing Twit today?
Not that I know of.
You better check.
I did.
I sent to chat a note and I haven't heard back.
Because I have another...
I'm not planning on going.
Someone sent me some thoughts.
And again, it's great when you're ill and you're in a whole different plateau.
Dayquil is something amazing.
What is in Dayquil?
Probably some ephedrine.
Let's see.
What is the ingredients?
Does it have ingredients here?
Active ingredients.
Citric acid.
No, it doesn't.
That's just a preservative.
All right.
DNC yellow number 10.
FDNC yellow number 6.
Flavor.
Flavor is an active ingredient.
High fructose corn syrup.
Polyethylene glycol.
Purified water, saccharine sodium, and sodium citrate.
Well, there's nothing in here.
That does nothing.
Well, that doesn't make it.
Well, then you're stoned on your own good looks.
It's a non-drowsy alcohol.
This is the wrong one.
Who wants the non-drowsy?
Oh, well.
And what good is it?
It sounds like it's just got a bunch of syrup.
No good.
You're just drinking the sugar.
Drinking sugar water here.
Well, it's working for you.
Maybe it's just the sugar.
Limoncello.
Regarding net neutrality.
A lot of interesting emails flowing back and forth.
People have a lot to say.
A lot of people are very thankful that we're at least bringing some sanity to the conversation.
But let me give you one more nugget.
If, and I believe there's enough morons out there who are screaming net neutrality...
Net neutrality, the only way you can bring about true net neutrality...
What does everyone say, John?
We want every packet equality?
Every packet is equal.
Yeah, packet equality.
Yeah, packet equality.
There's only one way you can get packet equality.
Deep packet inspection.
Why?
If you...
In order to make every packet equal, you have to know what every packet is doing.
There's going to be deep packet inspection on every single packet.
Well, that is going on anyway.
Not necessarily.
Now it will be legally binding.
Well, okay.
I find the debate tedious.
Yeah, but okay.
Really?
Especially if it goes on.
Yeah, well, you heard it.
You know, you had these, you had three people going on and on about, oh my god, the internet as we know it is dead and they won't have equal packets and Leo going, oh my god, I'm going to be screwed.
I'm going to get screwed somehow.
He's always going to get screwed when he never has been screwed, but he's going to get screwed.
And everybody's all in a tizzy.
And I'm thinking, well, I'm not seeing that, you know, I see a lot of...
And I like Comcast.
It really gets on everyone's nerves.
There you go.
All right, we're done.
It's Comcastic.
I've got good service from them.
You are Mr.
Comcastic.
Although I have to say, it doesn't work on Skype very well.
It doesn't work very well at all.
And that's because of something going on.
So I'm using DSL for this...
Podcast, but I have the alternatives here, so I'm not completely freaked out about it.
And I suppose if I live someplace else, it might be very problematic.
Well, here's the good news.
I can live wherever I want now, because we went through the entire show, nothing crashed, and it's all done on a single laptop.
Yeah, that's pretty astonishing.
Yeah.
Not say amazing.
No, astonishing.
That's a great word.
Well, it's...
Of course, on Thursday we'll know more about these 11 terrorists with links to Al-Qaeda and Al-Qaeda affiliates who have been arrested for the disappearance of Flight MH370. And, as I said, it's about the cargo manifest.
That's the first thing I said.
Remember I talked about the batteries and I talked about the extra stuff that was undocumented?
That is the, I will vouch for you.
Thank you very much.
We don't have to go back and listen to the tape.
It's true.
I will vouch for you.
You absolutely talked about the batteries.
We'll be back on Thursday.
Hopefully I'll be in some better health or, who knows, might be having a new co-host.
Well, as long as you can do this show from the hospital.
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