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I can't, with authority, answer that question.
Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak.
It's Sunday, February 2nd, 2014.
Time for your Gitmo Nation Media Assassination, episode 588.
This is No Agenda.
Predicting large sporting events since 1906.
From FEMA Region 6 here in the Travis Heights hideout in Austin, Texas, in the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
And from northern Silicon Valley, where it's finally raining and it's actually raining, I'm John C. Devorak.
It's Crackpot and Buzzkill.
In the morning.
You know, I have received so many emails about the rain stick.
I Let's do it again.
But the drawback is it's raining in Austin now, too.
What?
It hadn't rained for months in California.
We shake these damn rain sticks.
You know, I had a question about that.
How many people, because this kind of goes along with karma as well, a large amount of people, maybe just people who, when they request karma where it doesn't work, they just don't tell us about it.
They tell us.
Not often.
I can count on one hand the amount of times someone has requested karma and it didn't work out.
Yeah, well, it does happen, though.
But this rain stick thing is a little scary.
And the question is, how many people...
This is the weird thing about our show.
By the way, do you know who sent us these rain sticks?
Yes, the producer from Utah.
Sherry.
Do you think she's actually in Utah?
I received them from her when we were in Utah.
You sure that was her?
Well, who knows?
Utah can be weird.
Anyway, go on.
So, of course, because we don't have advertisements, so we don't have to have some kind of rating or a GRP or a QM or a share.
We don't need to prove to any advertisers.
Screw Arbitron!
Yeah.
Yeah.
Which is, by the way, is now folded into Nielsen.
So we don't need to say, oh, we have X amount of people listening.
And last night, Miss Mickey and I were at a benefit thing here in Austin.
And, you know, and of course, it was, oh, what do you do?
And then, you know, Mickey's an artist.
And I say, what do you do?
And I, you know, I'm like, uh...
I'm so tired of telling.
If they don't know who I am, because they're too young, usually, then I make something up.
But when they finally find out about the podcast, I say, well, how many people listen to the podcast?
I really don't know.
And it's not a good answer for most people.
Ten million people!
It makes it sound like, man, this hot woman has got some weird guy sitting in the closet with a microphone.
Does she know what she's married to?
But do we have any idea how many people...
Can you guesstimate?
Because somehow the collective thought, I believe...
When you pray to God, I don't think that really works that well because you're throwing your thing into the air.
Into the mix.
Yes, there's a lot of messages going up there.
I'll get to it tomorrow!
I'm busy right now.
I got Syria to deal with.
But when it's the podcast, I think that somehow electronically it comes into your head and then maybe you're thinking about it and maybe somehow that has some effect.
But what do you think?
Is it 10,000?
20,000?
No, it's way beyond that.
It is beyond that.
It's based on the kind of numbers we get in responses and the people that actually sign up for the mailing list, which is always going to be about, the mailing list will be, I'm guessing around 10%, 5% to 10% of the total.
Because that's all, you know, nobody else just listens.
They don't donate.
They don't do anything.
Yeah.
You basically gave me no answer other than...
It's about 100,000.
I'm guessing about 100,000 to 150,000.
Really?
That's it?
That's a moderate number.
And that's also based on the number of people out of the blue that say in the morning to you on the streets of any city.
Yeah, but that's not really fair.
I mean, in Austin, it's just continuous.
I think a guy, like, almost fell off his bike the other day.
In the morning.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Hmm, $100,000, $150,000.
That's probably about right.
That's my guess.
And I think it's about a valid number based on the kind of...
I mean, if you take all the variables, that's about what it sounds like.
I'd like to be bigger.
That's what she said.
We are.
I mean, it's possible we have.
But that means that if we're bigger than that, that means that people are not contributing very much.
Right.
It would actually be bad if we had more.
It would be bad.
It means that the number of people that actually contribute to the show, support the show, and produce the show are really just super minorities.
Boners.
Yeah.
Hmm.
Okay.
Well, for some reason, this rain stick thing seems to work.
You have to admit that's kind of freaky.
Don't do too much.
Then you'll have too much water.
Can you abuse the rain stick?
I think so.
Did you not?
Pushed away.
You took the course.
You know we're licensed.
Licensed rain stick.
Operators.
Hold on a second.
We have not tweeted.
This is what happens when you're having too much fun.
Rain stick operators.
We are rain stick.
That's what we are.
We're rain stick.
We are licensed rain stick anymore.
What?
People generally don't think of it.
I mean, they do the dance and pray for rain and all the rest of it, but a rain stick is an old, proven way.
And what's funny is kids today still make rain sticks at school, well, if they have any arts and music, and it's made as a musical instrument and not as an instrument of weather modification, which is the way it should be taught.
Yeah.
It's like the water witching.
You know, people make a lot of fun about it, but those guys that actually do that use that technique and find water all the time.
Well, I think there's something to it.
And regardless of whether you want to believe it or not, and I think you're kind of on board, it's working.
How many months?
It didn't rain for months.
And then for two shows in a row, we'd shake the rain stick and it's raining in California and in Austin.
Yeah.
Come on.
We need the rain here.
And the weird thing about this particular storm, which was not predicted, Until last night, when it all of a sudden showed up on the radar as almost like a cloud buster phenomenon from Wilhelm Reich.
Yep.
Just showed up off the coast over by Eureka and then came down here and blasted us.
It was a nice rainstorm last night.
It's still raining as we speak.
Good!
But that's only Northern California, and I think Southern California still needs help.
They don't have a rain sticker.
Yeah.
They're bad.
They're a loss.
Today, of course, in the United States, for those of you listening on the podcast, you probably already know the outcome, and so now you just want to hear what are they going to predict with many large sporting events, which we're pretty convinced most of the big ones are rigged.
Certainly World Cup soccer, all of soccer seems to be rigged these days if you look at the FIFA lawsuits.
Basketball seems to be pretty rigged.
Baseball, we've never really done anything with baseball, have we?
I don't know how easy it is.
Baseball has been rigged in the past.
It's harder.
It's a hard game to rig because it's pretty...
It's just a complex game to rig.
Yeah.
Unless you have some...
I mean, I remember during a World Series when the umpire was calling strikes and balls against...
Yeah, you've got to rig the umpire, though.
That's a little harder.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So the Super Bowl, and of course, football, American football, it's a beautiful game.
It's really been tailored for television.
It suits the television system perfectly.
It is some of the best produced television ever, which is why it is the game that I watch.
And it's, you know, oh, I watch for the commercial.
I really watch for the game.
I am sometimes blown away.
By the production values, particularly in HD. It's just incredibly beautiful.
Everything's beautiful.
The uniforms are beautiful.
The men's butts are tight.
Everything's great.
The cheerleaders are pretty.
Cheerleaders are rocking.
Just everything is good.
It's tight.
And today we have Bruno Mars performing the halftime.
They got some opera singer doing the national anthem.
Yeah, I think that's new.
It's a tribute to the No Agenda show.
So we have been pretty good, I think, dead on just about every single time with predicting the winner based upon socioeconomic issues in the team's place of origin.
Am I saying that correctly?
That's pretty close, yeah.
And I've had this lurking feeling that we have the Denver Broncos and the Seattle Seahawks playing.
And I've had this feeling deep in the pit of my stomach for two days, two weeks now, that everything points to the Broncos because, oh man, where do we start?
With the flooding in Colorado, with the shootings in Colorado, of course.
The weed thing is interesting.
And so I've been looking for a way to fit Seattle winning into our model for a while.
It's called shoehorning.
Yeah, maybe.
Maybe.
So the fact that this is the weed bowl, or what are they calling it?
The butt bowl.
The roach bowl.
I don't know.
This was the path I was on first, and then I got steered into a different direction.
Listen to this.
People will call it the stoner bowl.
The stoner bowl.
There you go.
And my personal favorite, the super newbie bowl.
Ha!
Super doobie bull.
What is this, Fox?
No, this is CNN with the cute girl.
Oh, what's her name?
I think she's a doctor or something.
She's very cute.
Very, very, very funny segment.
This Super Bowl Sunday, the pot punning will be in full effect as teams from the first two states to legalize recreational marijuana, Washington and Colorado, face off against each other.
On Sunday, it is the Seattle Seahawks versus the Denver Broncos, and the average Super Bowl party could get a lot more interesting.
Think about it.
Bigger laughs, better appetites, and also more conversations about trying to sync the halftime show with the dark side of the moon.
Well, marijuana dispensaries are selling blue and orange Bronco-themed bongs and marijuana strains, including Orange Crush.
Don't you love American ingenuity?
The American entrepreneur is unparalleled anywhere in the world, ladies and gentlemen.
And in Washington, even though pot is not technically legal yet...
Now, this is where I was thinking, is that true?
Is that not technically legal in Washington?
No.
I thought it was legal.
It's not true at all.
It's been legalized.
Why?
Is recreational pot not legalized?
No, recreational pot has been legalized.
Why would she say that?
I think she's mistaken the fact that the state itself has not...
Put into play any rules or regulations about it, so de facto it's not legal, but you can't really buy it legally?
Okay.
So I was thinking, well, what we could...
After this, she actually brought on a former tight end for the Broncos, and he went into this whole rap about how so many football players, and of course he was referring to the Broncos, use marijuana for pain relief.
And I'm like, well, okay.
So this would be a way to say, you know, the Broncos lost because they were too stoned.
And because, you know, they have the legal stuff.
Man, you really got something on here today.
Talk about stoned.
Now, people are trying to help me out with these theories.
For one thing, the Broncos players aren't a bunch of stoners themselves, so they won't be too stoned to win.
The second thing is a lot of players across the league, apparently this has been documented quite a bit in some of these sports shows, Especially Brian Gumbel's Real Sports.
He's the one who really rolled out a special on it.
They're all using it because these other guys are taking these addictive, horrible morphine derivatives and they find that they're smoking dope.
Is better.
Is better.
So that was kind of the point of that item.
So producers around the world are trying to help me figure out if somehow my hunch is right.
And see, I got an email from John Tucker.
He says, of course, on the 31st of January, we have the Chinese New Year started with the Year of the Horse.
I was listening to Van Cat, and according to the French, and I never heard this before around here, and we have a huge Chinese population, they call it the year of the wooden horse.
Huh.
I found that peculiar.
I don't know if I have a clip of it.
But the woman says that the Chinese New Year, the Year of the Wooden Horse.
I don't see it on your list.
That's probably not.
I probably didn't clip it.
Well, of course, if it's a horse, then you'd have to think Broncos would be the way to go, obviously.
Oh.
Right?
Duh.
But, producer...
Another nail in your coffin, but don't worry.
Producer Ricky Lee...
Came in, I think, with a very good fit for the model.
So, of course, we have one huge...
For anti-model, you mean?
No, to put Seattle into the model for the win.
Of course, we have a huge company in Seattle, which is Boeing.
And Boeing is very, very important to the United States in general.
But there was at a certain point there was even talk of Boeing leaving Seattle.
It's actually in Everett with the headquarters in Chicago.
Yeah, I know, I know, I know.
And that's pointed out.
But the work is done in Seattle.
And they had a huge contract dispute with the machinists.
And they barely, I think it was like a 50.5 or 51% of the vote, they passed this contract, but the machinists are still all pissed.
And there's just all kinds of anger roaming around.
And I'm thinking, in order to smooth that over, so we can continue to make, you know, kick-ass war planes, because it's not really about, you know, just commercial planes...
That that would be a reason to distract everybody.
We can't have Seattle getting more depressed, that's for sure.
Because it's tens of thousands of jobs.
And that feels better than any other thing from Denver, quite honestly.
It's a real socioeconomic issue.
This has never been in play for the last seven years we've been doing the show.
This model that you create, this labor dispute.
What do you mean?
Let's make them feel better.
Yeah, this is what it's always been about.
What are you talking about?
It's always been about making people feel better.
It's always about making people feel better, not because they're in a union.
They've been beat up or the country's in desperate straits or something like that.
No, no.
Okay, just stick with this idea, and we'll see what happens.
We'll know later today.
And also, they have the 12th Man 747.
Have you seen it?
It's Paul Allen, you know.
I know.
When you've got money, isn't it beautiful, the things you can do?
Yeah.
Hey, let me rent one of those planes.
I'll paint it.
It costs millions of dollars to paint a plane that big.
And also, I think just because it's Paul Allen...
Just make Paul Allen a happy guy.
He's been depressed.
The elites also just need to show everybody who's boss.
That would change the model, but I think you might be onto something with that.
Just watch what I can do.
Watch!
I can paint a 747 and fly it around with nobody in it but me.
And, screw you, peons!
Yes, we're going to win this game by some form of corruption you'll never understand.
Power outage, my favorite.
Power outage.
I got a report from the Super Bowl, which I thought was kind of...
I thought it actually kind of...
I wouldn't go to the game after hearing this report.
I think I have a similar report.
Olympics in Sochi.
I know security's always been a top concern.
That was my business.
That was your business.
It is your business.
What is this, the guy from Blackwater?
Who is this?
No, this guy.
That's Giuliani.
Oh, God.
Yeah, the guy from Blackwater.
Exactly.
Is the danger lessened after 9-11?
The danger is worse.
It's always going to be there, right?
The danger is worse, and it's the unexpected.
What is wrong with his speech?
What's happening if he's talking like this arson?
Something's weird with his...
He's always talked about it.
No, no, no, no, no.
Something's weird with his...
Something's going on with his mouth.
The one-off, it's the one you don't think of like the Boston Marathon.
Look, nobody can give 100% guarantee.
This is pretty close to it.
This and in New Jersey, the combination.
The security, they've been working on this for three, four, five years.
Kelly, now Bratton, all the people in New Jersey, Chris Christie.
You see, they have snipers in the stadium.
In the studio.
In the studio.
See that dot on your head, Giuliani?
A lot of them.
Believe me, I know.
You know more than I did.
We had a number of them, right?
Nah.
I got a better security report than that.
Wait a minute.
Hold on before you cut mine off.
It's over.
They said the place is crawling with snipers.
Would you go to a football game with a lot, and the word was a lot of them?
Yeah.
It makes you feel good.
So the stadium is crawling with snipers.
You just don't think that's even interesting?
Yeah, no, it's very interesting.
Don't make a sudden move.
I think it's dangerous.
I think you need to have...
What are the snipers going to do?
Hold on a second.
Let's say you set off a bomb.
Yeah.
What the fuck are the snipers going to do?
Shoot you?
Well, I mean, no.
The bomb is just blowed up and you're not even in the stadium by now.
You really don't understand how it works, do you?
I mean, well...
What?
We're just snipers everywhere?
All right, I'm going to jump around.
I wasn't going to use this clip right now, but you...
Oh, I got the sniper clip.
I'm going to have to pull it out.
Stand back.
As we have the Prime Minister of the United Kingdom, who had to come before some congressional session, parliament thingy, where they all sit in like the school desks.
Those guys don't know how to do theater.
So they sit in a little semicircle and they question the Prime Minister.
And here he is explaining exactly why you at least need to have the thought of having snipers or something around.
But I'm absolutely convinced that proper rules for communications data Is essential.
And I don't think we've got across to people yet the absolute basics of this, which is, you know, in most of the serious crimes and sort of child abductions, comms data, who called who and when, and where was the telephone at the time, not the content of the call, the communications data is absolutely vital.
and I think we need the police chiefs, the investigators and others and the politicians explaining what this is about.
I love watching, as I probably should stop telling people, crime dramas on the television.
There's hardly a crime drama where a crime is solved without using the data of a mobile communications device and that's not about the content.
He knows how it works.
People see stuff on television and they think that that's how it really works.
Well, apparently he's one of them.
Yes!
But that's the whole point.
Of course snipers are ridiculous.
Because, you know, you're not going to say, well, maybe if you see the guy and he's carrying a bag that says bomb on it, you know the one.
Hey, hey, June, you got my bags ready to go?
Yes, where's the bomb?
He's got bomb written on it, you idiot.
Okay, I gotta.
Perhaps he's carrying a picture like the one Netanyahu, Prime Minister of Israel, showed at the United Nations with the actual drawing of the bomb with the fuse lit.
Yeah, if you're walking around the stadium, MetLife Stadium with that, yeah, you might get sniped.
I'm happy with my clip.
The clip was fine, John.
I'm happy that mine put a rating on it.
And a massive security operation is underway this morning in and around New York City.
Tens of thousands of police and other officials are working to protect Super Bowl XLVIII. By the way, they're just protecting this franchise.
They're not protecting you, you stupid shittison.
That's actually, that's true.
They're protecting the franchise, okay?
We can't ruin the franchise.
48, the Department of Homeland Security is declaring Sunday's game in New Jersey a level one national security event.
Woohoo!
Woohoo!
Yay!
We are number one!
We made it to level one!
Now, I wonder, is Level 1 the top you can get?
Is that like the highest rating you can get?
Yes, it has to be.
Or is that just...
Let's take a look and let's check the book.
Or is that a starter rating?
I got 20 more seconds on the clip.
You check the book of knowledge.
Level 1 security what?
It's a Level 1 national security event.
Level 1.
A million people are expected to take part in Super Bowl-related activities.
Unsung.
Yeah, like hookers!
4,000 security officers will be at MetLife Stadium.
Military fighter jets are ready to respond to any attack.
Helicopters will patrol the sky above the city.
And an extra 200 surveillance cameras are watching Times Square, where there are plenty of Super Bowl events.
USA! USA! USA! USA! You figured it out?
I think they're just making it up.
I've never even heard of this.
I'm telling you, I think you might be right.
It is a level one national security event.
I don't know what that...
I'm not finding it as in the literature as it should show up.
I see it quoted.
I see people saying it.
But I don't see any evidence that it's an actual true designation.
Here's the CBS New York report.
There's a lot of interesting stuff when you really look into the Super Bowl.
A lot of people may not know that all of professional football, the league, it's all non-profit.
It's all a charity.
They don't pay any taxes.
You know this, right, John?
No, I don't.
Whatever you're going to say, I don't know.
Oh, you didn't know this?
Oh, as a 501c...
Sounds like a hoax.
No, uh-uh.
Go to Snopes, bitch.
As a 501c6 corporation...
It's dude, not bitch.
Dude?
Well, you must not have watched a lot of Breaking Bad.
Otherwise, you would know better.
It is...
Yeah, all professional football is tax-exempt.
I can't believe you didn't know this.
I'm fine with it.
Go on with your story.
Really?
You're fine with it?
No, I'm fine with not knowing this.
Just talk.
I'm waiting for...
Really?
I was hoping you would respond.
I'm responding by listening.
That's the statement.
It's tax-exempt.
While we are cutting farm subsidies in the manner of $6 billion for food stamps, there's guys making $29 million a year in a tax-exempt charity known as The Franchise.
This doesn't sound right.
I'm going to have to look into this.
By the way, I was still looking for this level one bull crap.
I'm not seeing a level one national security event anywhere in the government databases.
They just made this up.
The last time the NFL paid taxes was 1966.
Where are you reading this from?
An article, let me see.
The Onion?
This is, I don't know, Credo.
It doesn't really matter.
I've known this, I just never, it wasn't Super Bowl time, so now I've figured to bring it up.
Let's see.
1966, when lobbyists convinced Congress to pass an obscure provision that expanded the definition of 501c6 not-for-profit organizations in the Internal Revenue Code to include professional football leagues.
Yeah.
It's pretty outrageous.
It's outrageous!
But what I find even more outrageous is we spend, of course you're seeing the stories everywhere, countless millions, maybe tens or hundreds of millions of dollars with the Department of Homeland Security and the Customs and Border Protection dudes for counterfeit NFL merchandise.
So not only do they not pay into the government any of the billions of dollars that are made, but we actually take our resources to go and hunt down fake t-shirts.
So the taxpayer is getting shafted twice.
That's what you're saying.
You're saying these douchebags, these elites, creeps that own these teams, aren't paying anything into the coffers that help pave the roads and do the things that are necessary.
Because, for example, you need to pave the roads to the stadiums.
And the taxpayers, by the way, build most of the stadiums.
These guys take the money and then demand that we go even further and become a police force to protect their trademarks, which shouldn't even be – it should be public domain it seems to me.
Thank you.
Well, I'm appalled.
Now, on the other hand, I can see what the Super Bowl does.
I can see all the commerce.
I can see there's a lot of money that flows around, and there's all good that comes from it.
But I think at this point in time, with all the money that's being made, it wouldn't be a huge issue for them to kick in some extra dough.
Especially when we're talking about...
Wait, let me give you the right phrase.
To pay their fair share.
Oh, yes.
Well, this is all about income inequality, John.
So while we're at it, Mr.
President, Mr.
and Mrs.
Congress, while we're talking about income inequality, why don't we start with the football leagues kicking in some dough?
They've got to be doing a billion each.
Can I mention something here that would kind of resolve this instantly?
Wealth tax.
Here it comes.
How did you guess?
Drink, everybody.
You must be psychic.
Drink.
Because the football franchises have a net value because they're traded like stocks.
People will buy a franchise and sell it to somebody else.
They have a net value and they tend to be owned by a group of shareholders or sometimes one individual, as in the case of the Dallas Cowboys, I believe.
Yeah.
It would all be resolved by a wealth tax.
A wealth tax would just, boom, there's your tax and it's in.
And by the way, while we're at it, I'm pretty sure we can do exactly the same for the IOC and all the regional Olympic committees.
I'm pretty sure those douchebags are tax exempt as well.
Oh yeah.
Are you kidding?
Yeah.
They probably perfected the idea.
But no, instead, slaves like us, well not like us, but will pay hundreds if not thousands of dollars for a ticket.
We're not doing that.
We're not quite in that league.
I'm surprised.
I did go to a Super Bowl once and the ticket was $100 and it was high.
I'm surprised you didn't know that though, John.
No, well, you can be surprised all you want.
I'm going to break something to the listeners right now.
I don't know if we're ready for it.
I know everything.
I really don't.
You think about football.
I try to pretend I do, but I don't.
And you get away with it, which is why it's so surprising.
Yes, exactly.
I'm shocked myself.
All right, here we go.
Apparently, this is a FEMA rating.
Thank you very much, Freedom Northwest, who emailed this.
Here are the designators.
Incident complexity.
So type 1...
So this is as type, not level, so Marty's suspicious, but let's just say someone messed up and it's type 1 instead of level 1.
Everyone said level.
This type of incident is the most complex...
This is from FEMA. Requiring national resources for safe and effective management and operation, all command and general staff positions are filled!
What does that mean?
Operations personnel often exceed 500 per operational period, and total personnel usually exceed 1,000.
Yeah, we're on board with that.
Branches need to be established, definitely.
A written incident plan, action plan is required.
I'm sure we have that.
The agency administrator will have briefings.
Yeah, okay.
Let me see what five is, if that's tougher.
No, the incident can be handled with one or two single resources with up to six personnel.
So one is the top.
We are.
We're number one.
Jersey.
If somebody was really correct, they'd make it level zero.
Ooh, it could still happen.
No, somebody put this, this is like probably taken from the FEMA idea.
It's taken from the, remember the old yellow, red alert, green?
Yeah, oh yeah.
Orange, orange, orange, security level orange.
The threat level warnings, of course.
Threat levels.
Yeah, same thing.
Yeah, it's from the same playbook is what you're saying.
It's a play.
It's somebody.
Yeah, but somebody just threw it in there.
I would like to find some documentation that this specific thing, level one national security event.
Yeah, that is what we have not found.
And we won't because it's bull crap.
Makes for a good story.
Yeah.
Anyway.
All right.
We can drop the Super Bowl.
The game is going to be played later today.
People can watch and watch the ads.
And we can watch the deconstruction of the ads over the next two or three days.
Oh, the Budweiser has been the most successful.
Wait.
Wait.
Because we're going to, of course, thank our executive producers for the show, which is how we do it.
Now, when you have other models in broadcasting, such as the public broadcast system, which is public television, this is where Sesame Street came from, and this is where we have the PBS News Hour and the McLare stuff, and then Gwen Ifill, and everyone's all proper.
They have commercials every 15 minutes.
Then we have our National Treasure, NPR, National Public Radio.
And they, of course, need to get some of that native advertising in.
Because it's what all the advertisers want these days, native advertising, and they know how to do it.
Making a turn here, despite all the controversy around football right now, it is still the most-watched sport in the U.S., which means you might be...
That, by the way, is not true.
NASCAR is the most-watched sport, but I decide.
...one of the millions of people who plan to catch a playoff game this weekend, but if you live on the East Coast and are hoping to dig into some chili con queso or maybe some mac and cheese, you might run into a problem.
There's a Velveeta shortage.
How can this be, you ask?
And what does this mean?
Well, here to tell us more about what Velveeta means to us is Adrian Miller.
He's author of Soul Food, the surprising story of an American cuisine, one plate at a time.
Now, I've got to give you a little bit of a backstory to this, because this so-called Velveeta shortage, this started in advertiser week.
This is where the story was launched three weeks ago.
It didn't really get the play, but I guess the buy wasn't in yet or whatever.
They hadn't quite done the deal.
And listen to how serious they're really talking about.
Yeah, maybe tongue-in-cheek, because, of course, if you're a serious journalist, you want your colleagues to know that you kind of know what's going on.
But for the casual listener, it's a story.
Thanks so much for joining us once again.
Thank you for having me on the show to discuss this extremely important topic.
Are you in mourning?
That's the giveaway.
Are you very upset?
Well, you're on the West Coast, so this might not be affecting you.
Yeah, no, so far I checked his grocery stores.
We're stocked with Velveeta, so much like we did in the 70s.
Okay, so right now, so he's saying, we got Velveeta out here, but she's going to give us the journalistic source that is the nucleus of this story on your national public radio, which some people actually send their money to for this kind of quality reporting.
As a public service, we're willing to provide, you know, we provided Coors beer back then, so, you know, we can provide some Velveeta.
You're willing to share the Velveeta.
Well, Kraft, which makes Velveeta, does confirm on its Tumblr page that there actually is a shortage.
So, the source for this story is the actual manufacturer, i.e.
advertiser, who confirmed on their Tumblr page.
Okay.
I know it's early in the game, and there's probably some great stuff coming up.
And you haven't gotten this for a while.
I think it's bizarre, though.
But that is clippity.
Clip of the day.
You slaves can get used to mac and cheese.
Mac and cheese.
Living the mac and cheese life.
Mac and cheese by Ayn Rand.
There you go.
Isn't it unbelievable the level they were stooped to?
We've confirmed the story.
I can't believe it.
From the advertiser themselves.
We've confirmed these people.
Turn in your license.
What do you think that's worth, to do a native ad story like that for Velveeta?
This has got to be worth some dough.
If it was on NPR National, it's probably worth, let's see, the advertising rate would be for...
This was a four-minute story, John.
I would say $50,000 to $150,000.
It was a four-minute story.
Oh, it was a four-minute story.
Yeah, I'd say at least $100,000.
Yeah, yeah.
Well, anyway.
That's why, you know, a good PR agency, if they can pull off something like that, which obviously came from a PR agency, whoever's running Kraft's agency, one of the big boys.
That's got to be BBDO or one of those guys.
Well, they're all part of the same three groups.
Two now.
It's only two groups.
No, there's Publicis.
No, no, they merge with Omnicom.
I thought Publicis was independent.
No, WPP is still independent.
Well, WPP is the competitor with Omnicon.
Yeah, so it's...
Yeah, but...
But I thought Publicis was...
There's a little group out of Europe I think is still independent.
And there's still a lot of little independent agencies that are trying to build up so they get bought out by one of the two big guys.
Publicis was merged into Omnicom last year.
Okay.
Now, you're absolutely correct because there is, of course, the Curry-Dvorak Consulting Group.
We haven't been bought.
No, that's what I mean.
Who is still independent and available.
Yeah.
And if you look at the...
Let's see.
Where is it?
There is a...
You know Real Sex?
The HBO series?
Yeah.
Episode number 33.
The title of the episode?
Stocks Down Sex Up.
I mean, come on, man.
We're good.
Well, in the morning to you, John C. Dvorak.
In the morning to you, Mr.
Adam Curry and Mr.
Adam Curry and all the ships at sea and all the boots on the ground, feet in the air, subs in the water, and all the dames and knights out there.
And in the morning to all of our human resources in the chatroom, noagendastream.com, noagendachat.net.
Thank you very much to our artists.
As usual, great work.
From Mr.
Martin J.J. returning into the fold, noagendaartgenerator.com.
That's where you can upload your submissions.
We need to remind our artists of a few things.
Oh, that's right.
We keep forgetting to remind them.
Let's remind them now.
I'm reminding you to remind them.
We have a number of issues with some art you have to be aware of.
One, do not put the show number on the art because that means we can never use that again in the future if we pass on it one week and want to use it the next.
So that doesn't work.
But more importantly is the size of the type.
It has to be big enough.
So if you go look at noagendashow.com, And look at Adam.
Adam shrinks his art for the...
50%.
I shrink it down 50%.
If you cannot read the type at that size, we're not going to use the art.
It's just never going to happen.
And the art, by the way, is mainly used, and it's getting harder and harder to actually make it show up, in the podcast catchers and the players.
So that when you're playing the episode, you have the brand new art, which, as we know, actually creates more donations to the show when we have good art, and it shows up.
So we have, which is, of course, yeah.
And, yes, it's the album art.
Yeah.
So it needs to be readable, and it doesn't mean you have to have huge...
It just has to be readable, like white on black would be useful, you know, things that...
Red on black is frowned upon.
Not red on yellow.
Frowned upon.
Yeah.
And we do not use our pictures.
We went the first year to two years of Elven Bar with just the two of us.
People had variations on the two goofballs.
And we were in all the art.
And the end result is there's this one picture of the two of us 100 years after our death.
Stuck.
That's what we will look like.
That'll be us.
It's stuck.
See, like Rembrandt, that's him.
Even though he probably looked completely different.
Yeah, stuck.
Stuck.
So we don't use any of that under any circumstances because there's at least 100 or 200 pieces of it already.
And when somebody, I think along the way, when we were picking the art and somebody decided to just drop the two of us and it was funnier.
Much better, yeah.
That's it.
And that moment, I can't remember which artist it was, but we just switched off the old model and we went with the new standalone art that has more to do with the show and less to do with us.
And also, we want original art.
Now, you can modify things, particularly if it's done in jest, if you're making fun of something, i.e.
a parody.
But in general, we'd like to have some kind of new stuff.
Yeah, and that's why people who are actual, there are, we do have some graphic artists, professionals out there that occasionally come in with a piece of cool art.
We usually gobble that up because it's pretty, it's always different.
Yeah, I agree.
Now, that being the big wind-up, we're back in our yo-yo formation.
Yes, we have another Sunday with not much interest in support or contributions.
I think it was lack of kittens in your newsletter, personally.
I don't run my personal letter on Saturday to have to promote kittens.
Kittens only show up on the major newsletter.
But I want to say...
Out of kittens, by the way.
There's a shortage of kittens.
The newsletter you put together, it is a piece of art.
I have to say, because you always send me the text and I'll comment or maybe it'll be a spelling correction.
It's not much.
I mean, usually it's always good to go.
But when it comes in, I'm always happy to look at it because the art you put in is fabulous.
It really, really...
It's fabulous!
Awesome sauce!
It really makes it nice.
And I'm a big fan of email newsletters, which Gmail thinks is promotion.
Not that I use Gmail, but as a point of reference, like the Spin Place.
They do a Sunday newsletter, and it's really creative.
It's pretty.
I think they use Constant Contact, which is a competitor to what we use, MailChimp.
But it's nice.
I like it.
I enjoy it.
It's like a beautiful little novelette, like an email giblet coming in.
And I like reading it.
And I love the newsletter.
Even though I've read the text, I still like looking at what pictures you select.
And it's funny.
Kudos to you, my friend.
Good work.
Thank you very much.
And I do my best to find art that matches somehow...
And I try to find public domain art whenever I can, of course, that matches best what I'm talking about or what we're talking about in the case of the weekly newsletter.
And it came to mind some weeks back that I should put a kitten on the...
And I thought it was actually pertinent with the cute little running kitten through the grass.
I think one of the greatest pictures ever.
Best.
Best ever.
That is the highest quality of modern art.
And so then I decided to get another kitten and I got a third kitten.
Now I'm really in trouble because this next newsletter, which will be coming out on Tuesday night or Wednesday, needs a kitten.
And I'm looking, looking.
Now I'm thinking of moving to puppy's.
Oh, okay.
Well, it can be done.
Puppies are cute.
Yeah, puppies are cute.
I don't know if that'll help the contribution level.
Well, let this be a study.
It's possible that people are burning out on that show, and then when it comes to helping the Sunday show...
Can we do an A-B test?
Puppies versus kittens?
You know, I could do it.
They won't...
Let's see.
MailChimp does let you do A-B tests, but they only let you do it on certain variables.
They don't have a puppies versus kitten...
The model that you can actually make work.
In other words, you have two separate newsletters.
One with the puppy and one with the kittens.
Wow.
The level we sink to, John.
Hey, let's thank some people.
We do what we have to do.
Let's thank some people who, despite the lack of kittens.
We have two executive producers and two lone associate executive producers here for show 588, which is a nice number.
Yeah.
And let's start with the special goodness from Canyon Lake, California, 33333.
Nice number.
Thank you.
Greetings from Gitmo Brosef here in the IE of SoCal.
I'm not sure what the IE means.
The Inland Empire.
Oh, the Inland Empire.
Duh.
I know Adam will be back when he tires of Tejas messing with him.
Yeah.
Yeah, I'm packed.
I'm ready to go.
The show has really hit its stride, and for the record, GC as a spy is my favorite, regardless of the toe-tappiness of Call Clooney.
Of course, the question is...
That's not the one he likes.
No, I know, I know, I know.
That's what I'm saying.
The question is, should we...
He's the top guy here in the list along with Dennis.
Yeah, something happened, though.
I don't know where it is.
Well, you lost GC as a spy.
So here's my...
This is Carl Clooney.
I'm alphabetical.
By the way, he says to give us the show a karma so we can hopefully do well.
Hold on, hold on.
I'm trying to find this now.
You've got karma.
This is very weird.
George Clooney is a spy is gone.
Oh, isn't that interesting?
And it's my favorite, actually.
Hey, this is weird.
Some guy snuck in.
I would check my ass.
Found it.
George Clooney.
George.
There's a spine.
Yeah!
The Special Goodness is actually a famous musician, and he, I think, was making light of my toe-tapping commentary.
Oh, is this our Weezer man?
Yeah, this is our drummer.
Oh!
He's coming to Austin in March.
We're going to have a drink.
Yeah, good.
Yeah, find out what he's up to.
Well, here's his answer.
Drummond?
I'm drumming.
I need some drumming lessons.
When he's up here in the Bay Area, I'm going to...
Oh, God.
Okay.
Is this a brush-up?
Yeah, it's a brush-up.
Dennis Nutting here in Hilo, Hawaii, which is a great little place.
I wonder, you know, I should ask him whether the old airport is still in...
The old Hilo Airport was one of the most quaint places in the world.
I'm sure it's been modernized and wrecked.
The closest thing to it, I'd say, is Long Beach, if you've ever been to that airport.
Of course I've been to Long Beach.
Great airport.
Hello again, John and Adam.
It closes my second installment of 33333.
I think now I may deserve a de-douching.
Absolutely.
I am still behind in the value-for-value deal, but I'm catching up.
I have nothing witty to say, except I would like to hear Lizzie But now he mentions the clip that I don't believe is Lizzie, it's the other girl.
I lived in Italy for nine years, so hearing her speak in Italian is a pleasure.
So, Adam, pick one of her clips, please.
You know that one where she...
Yeah, no, that's actually my niece.
That's his niece, that's not Lizzie.
Sabi.
So, dedouching in a sabi, is that what he wants?
Yeah.
Sorry.
Sorry.
Thank you again for enduring courage, for your enduring courage and your hard work keeping us out of the fog of the news.
Okay.
Exactly.
You've been deduced.
Shut up, slave!
There you go.
You know, she's almost married now, and we're still playing this clip.
How old is she when she did that?
I think she was five or six.
She's almost married.
We haven't been doing the show that long.
She is beautiful, by the way.
Oh, my God.
She's a beautiful little girl.
She'll lead a nice, easy life.
Oh, yeah.
Particularly in Italy.
She can do a TV show on Saturday night.
Adrian Vernouge.
Vernouge.
Vernouge.
Adrian Verneuil in Hasselt.
Adrian.
Adrian.
Verneuil.
Verneuil.
In Hasselt.
In Hasselt.
Okay.
Good work.
235.
Finishing my knighthood, a request to shout at karma for my brother, Benjamin.
Benjamin.
Benjamin.
There you go.
Yeah, looking forward to it, Adrian.
You've got karma.
You know the Dutch...
Really only donate just to hear you pronounce their name.
Whatever works.
But I do have one of the systems that Eric gave me for Christmas two Christmases ago, and I just haven't cracked it.
Maybe I should learn to get a little closer.
What, like a Rosetta Stone thing?
I don't know if it's Rosetta Stone or the other guys.
Finally, Anonymous from Brooklyn, New York, $212.
Please mention it's anonymous, blah, blah, blah.
Please read as much as you can.
Hopefully this gets me an EP credit.
Yes, it does.
A-E-P. As I listen to the show 587, I had to instantly log on to PayPal and cancel my monthly 11-11 subscription and change it to 3333.
I'm also sending this separate $212 donation.
I've been listening to No Agenda for three years and today I realize what was missing from the recent shows.
I haven't heard a decent argument between you two for a while.
We had one last week when Adam was going on and on defending the elites, specifically Tom Perkins.
Read his note.
Don't editorialize.
Just read his note.
Okay, I'm just saying.
I just was correcting him.
Both of you providing your facts and analysis on the Perkins letter and arguing over them was amazing.
Yes, amazing.
I realize that you make us listeners understand the facts even better via the...
Obviously, I don't rehearse these reads.
I would have noticed that.
Even better via the debate.
Here is your value for value.
More is coming through my monthly subscription and hopefully I will be a full night soon requesting karma only since I already took up a lot of your valuable time.
Ah, yes.
Thank you very much.
I think you nailed it.
Unfortunately, it didn't seem to work for everybody else.
No, apparently not.
What's that?
It's in Brooklyn.
They're arguing all the time.
Yeah, it's like, hey, we're in Brooklyn.
Yeah, exactly.
All right, so that's our four people for show, 588, hopefully next Sunday.
Sunday, Sunday, we can do better.
But the news marches on.
I want to thank them and remind everyone to go to Dvorak.org slash NA, channeldvorak.com slash NA. Also, the NoAgendaShow.com and NoAgendaNation.com both have donate buttons you can push.
And welcome to all the new listeners from the Who's Coming to Dinner benefit last night, who I'm sure are all tuning into this program going, what?
What are these two boneheads talking about?
That's what that MTV guy's doing?
Oh, man.
He's really sunk low, hasn't he?
No wonder.
That guy used to be famous.
No wonder he's in South Austin.
South Austin, like the low rent?
No, our neighborhood is what we call spotty, John.
Spotty.
Hey, some PR mentions.
Scott McKenzie, author, of course, of One Day in Gitmo Nation and a Gitmo Nation Christmas Carol, is back with a new Amazon giblet.
These are these little e-books, which we like to call giblets.
And his new one is called Death by Autopen.
And it's another no-agenda short story.
We have the synopsis here.
For many years, the White House has used a device called an autopen to automate the president's signature on all types of documentation.
But behind closed doors, the autopen is used by presidential aides to create fake letters.
It's all fun and games until Washington journalist Andy McKenzie falls out with his White House staffer landlord who has just been put in charge of the kill list.
Death by Autopen is the latest short story in the Gitmo Nation series.
It's based on topics discussed on the No Agenda show, hosted by Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak.
How cool is that?
It's extremely cool.
And he sent us a copy.
I haven't read it yet.
But I really enjoyed the previous one, One Day in Gitmo Nation.
It was a good read.
I really liked it.
Let's see.
What happened to our comic book?
I don't know.
I didn't know we had one.
Well, it was a couple of years, about two and a half years ago.
Well, I can talk about a lot of great initiatives, John, that have fallen by.
People always find out it's really hard to keep up with us.
Yeah.
In the morning, John Adams.
We're not doing anything.
Yeah, I want to let you know and the listeners know about No Agenda Droid 2.0, which is now available on the Google and Amazon app stores.
You can listen to episodes, read show notes, listen to clips, and new, new, new, new, new, new, new in 2.0 is a No Agenda livestream page complete with schedule of upcoming shows.
Wow, Thursday, Sunday, Thursday, Sunday, Thursday, Sunday.
As well as a jingle board with over 50 of your favorite N.A. ditties.
The app is $1.69 and I pledge to donate 33 cents from each purchase back to the show.
And he has a donation coming up later on for the 155 downloads he's received so far.
Link in the show notes, but you can also find this, of course, this one in the Play and Amazon app stores.
And we thank Rick very much for that.
And then finally, we don't promote a lot of the URL forwards, but Jim Boznik, Bonzek, Really nailed one for us.
And he says, gentlemen, we need to get ahead of the curve on this one.
It's so obvious that this is going to be the meme for 2014.
Go to climateinequality.com.
And that forwards to noagendershow.com.
That is a great one.
That is a great one because you can just see, because they're using every gimmick they can to soak the rich countries, these little countries.
Yeah.
And they say, we're suffering the debilitating effects of climate change, you owe us money.
Yeah, we're climate victims, exactly.
Climate victims.
Climateinequality.com, which is great.
What were you doing before the climate was changing?
Nothing.
Nothing.
Those are all great initiatives.
Thank you very much.
And of course, to our executive and associate executive producers, even though the list is short, we highly appreciate what you're doing.
And of course, these credits are valid credits.
We will vouch for them.
Have someone call us up.
We'll tell them exactly this is a real producer credit.
And they are good wherever credits are accepted.
For instance, your IMDB or your LinkedIn page.
And please consider going out there and propagating our formula.
Our formula is this.
We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
Water!
Water!
Shut up, slave!
Shut up, slave!
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
While we're on the topic of the rich versus poor debate that was going on, I think Tom Hartman, this is a good little interlude, Tom Hartman may have figured out the whole model For the problems that we face in this country, it's kind of a form of co-opting.
And so I have this clip.
It may give away what I think about it.
It's called The Screwball Logic of Tom Hartman.
And please note, Tom is spelled Thom.
Thom.
Put them in the 401k plan, and that's why all these companies are doing away with their pension plans and all going to 401k.
Reagan started that trend.
Yeah.
And the whole idea was if we can get average working people into the stock market, you know, because most of the stock market is, you know, really, really rich people.
And if we can get the average working person in the stock market, then they'll start caring about the things that rich people care about, which will be good for the rich people, which is why Reagan did it.
And, you know, it's basically screwed the working person and the rich people.
You know, they've got people who manage their money.
They know how to run the stock.
Yeah, Tom Hartman, how many million a year does he think he makes?
It's an evil scheme by the evil Ronald Reagan to make poor people think like rich people and support them.
I'm a maniac.
We have the reverse.
By the way, the stock market is not mostly people by...
The ownership of stock is not mostly...
Quite the opposite.
It's institutionals.
It's institutions.
It's giant pension funds that benefit the working man and all the rest.
So this guy's nuts.
But he's making some nut dough, boy.
Well, I don't know how much he makes.
He does have a syndicated radio show that's not even on the top 10, so I guess that's something.
That's at least $750 a year.
What's his coverage?
Does he cover the whole U.S.? I hear him a lot, so you're probably right.
He probably gets at least $750.
That's $750?
I used to be in that business.
Yeah, once you're syndicated to that extreme, there's money to be made.
Then it's just numbers.
It really is just numbers.
Right.
You say, look at my numbers.
Oh, okay.
And then there's some associative thing.
January, we missed some important things in January.
Actually, one.
But it was not by presidential proclamation, but I did want to mention January was Thyroid Awareness Month.
And I would like to say that you should have your thyroid tested.
Thyroid is a magical device.
If you think you're bipolar, you may want to have that thing tested.
But however, for February, my, my, my, my, my, the president is very busy.
Of course, we have to share our months.
So it is National Teen Dating Violence Awareness and Prevention Month.
So no more teen dating?
Only if you don't violence it.
And it is also American Heart Month.
And it is National African American History Month.
Ah, yes.
Google celebrated that with their nifty little Google logo change.
What did they change it to?
They changed it to, I don't know, something that is a little black man in there or something.
I don't know.
Some racist thing.
They should combine it all.
They should have, like, a little black man with his heart exploding being beaten while on a date.
Yeah.
Just a thought.
That would be, yeah.
Yeah, well, it's...
That would be House of Lies.
I have to recommend this TV show, by the way.
Oh, you want to be very careful recommending TV shows.
I know.
You know why?
Why?
May I read you a quick note?
Oh, no.
From Jonathan Jennings.
Yeah, read it.
Dear Mr.
Dvorak, thanks for your recommendation of the show Rubicon.
My wife and I just finished watching it, and wow, what an ending!
By that I mean, there was no ending.
A cliffhanger that will never be resolved.
It's almost as if you recommended the show just to be a dick.
Thanks a bunch.
I got ten notes that say just the opposite.
I enjoyed the show.
Yeah, it's got an open-ended ending because it was never expected to be dropped.
Yeah.
Unceremoniously by the network.
And I like the fact...
When somebody from the agency came over and says, hey, you know, it's a little too much of this.
I just love it that someone said...
It wasn't like, Adam, read this for John.
No, it's Adam at Curry.com.
Hello, Mr.
Dvorak.
You're a dick.
I mean, seriously, people, this has to stop.
I recommend you continue the practice.
All right, what are you going to recommend for us today, John?
What do you have?
The House of Lies, a Don Cheadle show.
It's in its 27th episode, and it is...
Somebody described that...
What's that DiCaprio movie that was just done with Scorsese?
Wolf of Wall Street?
Wolf of Wall Street.
It's kind of described as a similar show where every person, every single person on the show is reprehensible and a complete douche.
Everyone.
And it's extremely entertaining.
And what's it called, the show?
The House of Lies.
It's on Showtime.
I'm a fan of Cheadle.
I didn't even know about this show.
Yeah, Cheetel's good.
If you're a fan of Cheetel's, you should have been on the show already.
I have a clip.
I'm sorry.
I'm kind of busy.
Well, I'm just saying.
You say you're a fan.
Yeah.
I go up there.
I saw Jackie.
I'm in Las Vegas.
Jackie Mason's walking down the aisle.
I'm not a fan.
But okay, I get it.
I get it.
I'm not old enough.
Jackie Mason's walking down there.
I say hello.
Hi.
I'm a big fan of yours.
Yeah.
He says you're coming to my show tonight?
I said, no.
I said, what kind of a fan are you?
No, fuck you.
I can hear him saying it.
That's what he says.
I can hear him saying it.
He's right!
Big fan.
Big fan.
That's what they say in Hollywood, by the way.
When celebrities meet each other, big fan.
Really enjoy your work.
Love your work.
Appreciate the work you do.
Big fan.
Get that outside of Hollywood.
I get it around here.
Oh, hey, John DeVore.
Hey, I love your work.
I love all those columns you did in PC World.
Yeah, 100 million years ago.
Good work.
I never wrote for PC World.
Hello?
So are you retired now?
He never wrote for PC World?
That's horrible when they say that.
He always say that.
And I still write for PC Magazine.
John, would you believe that from time to time I get the, wow, what was it like to work on VH1? I kid you not.
I seriously...
It was in business when you were there.
Yeah, it started around the same time, a little later after I got there.
But I'm flabbergasted when people say that.
Here's kind of a lewd clip.
People want to put their kids in another room for this clip because the show is pretty lewd from the House of Lies.
This is the clip that says, name that TV show.
I was going to grill you on it, but I decided...
I never would have known.
No, you wouldn't.
Of course not.
It's the idea.
Let me just set this up.
There's a creepy guy who was run out of the company for being a sexual harasser of 50, making all these women screw him.
And he somehow, because the company's...
It's a sales...
By the way, the show is about a sales organization.
Everybody's a salesman.
We really have...
It's vague what they sell, but they're all...
It's sales, sales, sales.
Everyone's a sales...
It's like it really nails the sale mentality.
And Kristen Bell plays one of the protagonists.
They're all protagonists.
And she is meeting with the guy who...
She's the one who got the guy fired in the first place, is the backstory.
And so he...
Sorry, sorry.
He's back...
And this is the little dialogue they have.
I had to sell my vineyard.
Do you know that?
My lawyers tell me I can't even fire this stupid little cunt that made all this happen.
Can I just say one thing?
These friends that couldn't hang with your dehumanization of, what was the final number, 16 women?
Maybe they weren't your real friends to begin with.
You know what, don't feed me that coercion bullshit.
I didn't hold a gun to any of your heads.
You wanted to.
Oh, God, yes.
The two tight shirts, the thick, fetid breath, the snow white bush.
We all just had to have it.
I mean, what girl doesn't dream of blowing Santa Claus?
I'm a fan.
What's her name?
That's Kristen Bell.
Oh, nice.
I'll watch that.
It's a half hour drama.
It's very funny.
It's a little lewd, but funny.
Well, we have hit the hat trick, the trifecta.
It's in third.
Banker now dead.
Three is the magic number.
It is the magic number.
We have...
So it's in one week, I think.
Three bankers.
All three apparent suicides.
Although one fell off...
The roof.
One fell into a noose around his neck.
And this third one, which was a chief economist, although they say he had issues at work, apparently jumped over a four-foot fence before falling down a 50-foot embankment.
Yeah.
Supposedly jumped off the bridge to his death.
Suicide.
Yeah, exactly.
Sure.
Now, I have no idea what's up, if there's anything up, but typically you'd see banker suicides when stocks are down.
Now, there is a little bit going on with the so-called head, I'll call it another head fake, I'll just call it what it is, because Janet Yellen, our new Federal Reserve chief desk, is going to come in, I guarantee you she's just going to start, put it right back up, printing more money every month, no doubt about it.
So it's kind of weird.
She has to.
Yes, she has to.
No, there's no question.
Or she'll be number four.
You don't want to meet an unfortunate bottom of the bridge, do you, Janet?
Right?
Yeah, it could be.
I don't know.
I mean, a lot of people are making a lot out of this and it just looks like a suicide.
And I remember, oh, that means the stock market's going to crash.
I don't think so.
No.
What would it mean the stock market's going to crash?
If the stock market was going to crash and you're a banker that knew this, you wouldn't kill yourself.
You'd short the market.
Yeah, you'd be ready to make a bundle.
Exactly.
Exactly.
So something else is going on.
Who knows?
Who knows?
David Medin...
Now, he is the only full-time member, but he is also the chairman of the Privacy and Civil Liberties Oversight Board.
You'll recall the PCLOB, I think they call it, came out with a report last week which said pretty much everything the NSA is doing is unconstitutional, wrong, and should be done away with.
This is a panel that was instituted by the 9-11 Commission and is chosen by the President but approved by Senate.
And, of course, their report is shite, means nothing.
And it gets no play.
So this guy is now relegated when he wants to talk on C-SPAN 3.
He didn't even get a lectern.
They put him at a school desk at George Washington University with four yawning people in the audience.
It really is pathetic that no media news outlet...
And, by the way, hello, Pierre Omidyar, Kuka Guitar.
Pierre Airgatar, where are you with your first look media?
Glenn Greenwald and Poitras, you guys should be all over this.
They're not even talking about it, which I find suspect.
Because Glenn Greenwald is the first guy who is always ready to point to something and say, see, see, see, but he's not even pointing to this.
And I'm suspicious of that.
Anyway, so we read this report, and it's very damning, and I think the President never made a comment about it.
It's his panel, but okay.
Spokeshole Carney just came out.
I like the fact that you've given a speech to a room of guys looking for a place to snooze.
It's so sad.
It's really sad.
And of course, all he could do was reiterate...
He'll never be on a panel again!
He may not want to walk in buildings with 33 stories.
This was not a good thing.
And the guy seems really nice.
He sincerely did his job.
He did his job.
He absolutely...
And this is a federal agency, by the way.
He's basically complaining.
He's like, we can't get funding.
We can't get a desk.
We can't get offices.
How's that honest report working out for you, David?
But what he said, which is what we already concluded...
With his appointment, and I'll just remind you of the conversation we had, there was only a few days before the Snowden revelations came out, when he was finally approved and put in place, and I think we were kind of joking, like, hey, that was just in time.
Like, yeah, this thing may be scripted.
Well, holy crap.
After waiting for the Senate to act 510 days on my nomination, I was finally confirmed on May 7th, 2013.
And I took office on May 29th, four days before the first Snowden leaks were published in the newspaper.
So maybe somebody knew how to time my entrance.
But it was certainly a long wait, but I came in at a very interesting time.
Yes.
You don't say.
Even he knows it.
Yeah, well, it's kind of obvious, in fact.
Yeah, I think it's so obvious that it warrants...
Senatorial, congressional hearings.
Well, don't forget, before this stuff was published, this notice stuff, they ran it through the agencies.
They had to.
You remember this, right?
Yes, yes.
We all remember.
They already knew it.
The stuff that was printed in both the Guardian and the Washington Post, where they got this special hit guy to come in and do the piece.
And they probably had this at least a month, maybe two months before publication.
We don't know.
But whatever the case was, it was probably just in time to get this guy in so they couldn't point the finger and say, where is this guy?
Is that a question?
Is that a question?
No, I'm just saying.
It's a statement.
If this stuff's rolling around through channels...
Mm-hmm.
Somebody's going to say, where are we vulnerable?
Because you have meetings, and that's the first question you ask.
Well, one thing, we've never filled this position, which makes it look like we don't care about human rights.
Confirm him.
Quick.
500 days.
It was like a year and a half.
Yeah.
All of a sudden.
So you confirmed the guy.
And now you can't point the finger at the missing position.
But meanwhile, this guy's in there yet.
But we can push him down to George Washington University in the basement with a school desk, with a chair, with three legs.
Just like Brazil, fighting over the desk space.
So a couple other things that...
Well, first, I had a thought.
We've been talking about Germany, Germany, Germany.
And everything is Germany.
And this interview that Eric Edwin Snowden did was on German television.
I have not seen a single...
A reputable news organization.
I don't even think PBS. No one has taken a clip from it.
They're not even referencing it.
We did.
No, no, I know.
But Germany is...
We need to speak about Germany for a moment.
I want to remind...
This is why I don't understand.
We've got Laura Poitras based in Germany.
She is...
Documentary, filmmaker, spy, something or other.
Shady, don't understand her.
We've got Jacob Applebaum, the pornographic PR guy for Tor, because it turns out he's not the developer, he's a PR guy who used to do porn websites.
That's Applebaum.
Then we have Snowden's main squeeze, formerly known as Julian Assange's girlfriend.
She's in Berlin.
I'm sorry, self-imposed exile.
Self-imposed exile, yes.
We had Grant Greenwald's husband picking up documents in Berlin, coming through Britain, purposely, it appears, to us at least, to get caught.
Now, I want to remind you of the Hamburg cell.
And this is why I feel that it is very weird that no one is calling for...
And by the way, now we're all, oh, we're so sorry we tapped Angela Merkel's phone.
We won't do it anymore.
John Kerry going over there to suck up to her.
And by the way, she doesn't speak English with him.
They did a press conference together and she speaks German.
It's translated.
I know she can speak English.
That was really weird.
She's like, screw it, I'm speaking German.
I want to remind you of the Hamburg cell, which according to the 9-11 report and all post-analysis of 9-11, this is where several of the 9-11, if you believe in all that, hijackers laid their plans in Germany.
What is going on with Germany and all this spying business and why is no one really talking about this?
2009 is definitely the new Vienna.
Explain the reference to Vienna.
Well, you know, Vienna used to be, oh, the drop point for all this international intrigue between the KGB and the CIA and all the rest of it.
And it was always in Vienna, and I think it's because they enjoyed Vienna, and it was like, well, we're going to do this.
Nice art, you know, nice restaurant.
Let's do it in Vienna.
Okay, I'll go to the symphony afterwards.
And in 2009, there was a...
Actually, I pulled up a telegraph report.
Headline, terrorist cell found in Hamburg where 9-11 attacks were conceived.
German intelligence services learned that a new militant group with 10 members headed by a German of Syrian origins, interesting, had sprung up in the port city.
And so there was another cell there of terrorists.
So, you know, I'm not necessarily trying to tie anything together, but why isn't anyone saying, what's up with Germany?!
So amidst all of this kind of looking around and trying to understand the timeline of Edward E. Edwin Eric Snowden, something very interesting cropped up, and I need to give Kiwi Cameron some props for this.
I'm going to play two clips, one from the original, and by the way, if you have a chance, it's linked in the show notes, go back and watch the original, the first interview from Snowden where Graham Greenwald is asking the questions.
It's the Poitras interview where he re-explains the PRISM system.
He literally says to some very explicit detail that Apple, Google, Microsoft, Yahoo give access to the back end, to the NSA, so that they have no culpability.
And he's very, very clear about that.
That's right.
He did.
And the slides were clear about it.
Forget the slide.
He says it so clearly.
And I think people skirt around that.
And we've got all these companies like, oh, boo-hoo, man, we didn't do anything.
I think they're full of crap.
But, of course, we have to protect them.
Now, anyway, listen to what he said in interview one and what he reiterates in this second interview, only shown on German television.
For some reason, no one in America wants to show it.
Not all analysts have the ability to target everything.
But I, sitting at my desk, certainly had the authorities to wiretap anyone, from you or your accountant to a federal judge to even the president, if I had a person.
Ah...
Now at first, this just sounds like he's just saying something like, I can tap anything anywhere.
But now the second interview.
When you are on the inside, when you go into work every day, when you sit down at the desk, and you realize the power you have, you can wiretap the President of the United States.
You can wiretap the federal judge.
And if you do it carefully, no one will ever know, because the only way the NSA discovers abuses are from self-reporting.
There's your answer why Edward Eric Edwin J. Snowden will come home and will be scot-free because he's got the goods.
That's a message if I've ever heard one.
Oh, that's an interesting thing.
I like this.
I'll give you a point on this one.
How many times does he have to say, I can tap the president, no one will know about it?
I can tap the federal judge.
Which also means I may have some goods on whatever.
Yes!
I've already tapped the president.
Yes, I've got the goods.
That's exactly what he's saying.
And he probably has some set, because he's not the dumbest guy I've ever run into, that's for sure.
In fact, for a high school dropout, it's probably because he went straight to college.
Yeah, exactly.
He dropped that one because he was so brilliant, you mean.
Yeah, I'm sure.
No, I mean, he's just, obviously, he's sharp.
Yeah.
And he's not the, oh, how did this idiot high school dropout get goods on these people?
With his fake girlfriend, you know, the one that doesn't exist.
We know she doesn't exist.
Who?
His fake girlfriend.
Oh, the girlfriend.
Please.
Why is no one interviewing her?
Why is the National Enquirer not hounding her?
The whole thing is a joke, the way this is being handled, and why the American public is completely cut off from all this.
I mean, you might as well be in, you know, not today's China, but communist China.
Why doesn't she have a book deal?
Why doesn't she have a reality show?
Dude, we could produce this.
Dude, we could produce this.
I was the spy's girlfriend.
Now on Bravo.
It would be great!
She could hang out with Anna.
We could have a meeting between the hot spy Anna.
What's her name?
The Russian one that got deported.
Who's doing fashion shows.
And then we can put her with Emily.
What's her name?
Harrison.
Harrison, the hot girl in Berlin.
It could be a multi-continental show.
Could be big.
No.
She's nowhere.
We get the new girl with the beautiful little black dress she had on over there.
We get lots of stories about the formerly Russians.
Why not about her?
Because she doesn't exist.
And this guy is sitting there saying, okay, well, I could tap the president.
I actually disagree with that.
With the president?
No, she doesn't exist.
I think because I remember when they were doing interviews in Hawaii early on when this thing broke and the guy next door neighbor was talking about the two of them and the boxes that were in the weird boxes stacked high in the garage and then they both disappeared overnight.
Oh, she may be dead.
That's possible.
I've always been convinced that she was probably his boss or handler for the agency.
That's possible.
And that's why she disappeared.
All I know is that I can probably call three producers, one at MTV, one at Bravo, and probably I could call the president of A&E. And if I said, hey, I've got the Snowden's girlfriend for a reality show, boom, they give me a 13-episode deal right there.
Yeah, and I'm sure you're not the only person in the world who's thought of that, but she works for the agency.
Exactly.
Okay, there you go.
And someone is saying very clearly to the president, I have the goods on you.
Who do you think the goods are?
Gay hookers, because, first of all, that's his history.
That's what's always been rumored.
I have no proof of it, of course.
National Enquirer I picked up the other day.
I love picking up the National Enquirer at the HEB when I do the shopping.
When I do the shopping.
It's the shopping.
When I do the shopping, normally we go to Wheatsville, but this is just for the paper products and stuff.
Wheatsville?
Wheats.
W-H-E-A. Wheatsville.
We're owners.
The co-op.
And right there, it's Michelle wants a divorce.
He's hanging out with the pimp, you know, the titscomb, titsville guy.
It's not saying gay, but we know this is Larry Sinclair.
I mean, there's a hit list around Obama, and it's all young black gay men.
Killed, shot in the head.
And you're to blame.
That's what I think it is.
Because what else?
The American public would not care about anything else.
No.
They would get a kick out of the gay thing, though.
So what the Enquirer is saying is they're saying that Michelle Obama found out from the Secret Service that they had been covering up his cheating.
Right.
They don't say necessarily.
And then they show a picture of him with some actress or whatever.
Like he's looking at her.
And then the selfie with the Denmark chick.
Which is a new term for prime minister.
And he throws baseball like a girl, by the way.
That doesn't mean you're gay.
That has nothing to do with it.
No, it has nothing to do with it.
Got myself.
I'll just pretend I heard moreover.
Moreover.
So I thought that was very interesting, and to me it means that this is the message.
The message is clear.
I'm coming home because I'm tired of being here in Russia.
And by the way, I want you to bring my hottie back from Berlin, too.
How much do you...
I'm going to bet you right now that she comes back and they live together.
No, I can see it.
I'm putting it in the book.
I think it's a great prediction.
I think her name is Harrison Rebecca.
Is it Rebecca Harrison?
I don't know where her name is.
I have not seen the interview.
I got a transcript.
I guess they're holding it back, and I couldn't find anything online.
Jake Tapper, of all people, the guy who was kicked out of the White House press corps, now is getting a Vida Gudmacher, as we call it, and he was allowed to interview the president post the State of the Union.
And the quote here from the president, I think Jim Clapper himself would acknowledge and has acknowledged that he should have been more careful about how he responded.
Wow.
Talking about Clapper's perjury?
Yeah.
It's a humiliation that Congress has not done anything about it.
His concern was that he had a classified program that he couldn't talk about, and he was in an open hearing in which he was prompted, interesting, with a prompter, to disclose a program, and so he felt he was caught between a rock and a hard place.
No, Mr.
President, James Clapper is a moron.
We've seen it time and time again.
Holder did it right.
Remember, we have that clip.
Holder's asked the same thing, and he won't answer it.
He won't even answer.
He says, I can't answer that.
I have to do it in a closed session, and that's when we'll talk about it.
He didn't say no.
He didn't say yes.
No, we know what happened here is Wyden, Senator Wyden, asked the question incorrectly, not in accordance with the script which they had agreed to in the days previous to the hearing.
Well, I thought that...
No, I thought it was Clapper didn't bother to read the script.
Oh, they may have changed it.
It was something like that.
But Clapper was not following with the script of the day.
And then he perjured himself.
And now for the president to apologize for him.
Wow!
For this...
That's bad.
If I was advising the president...
But of course, you know, maybe because of whatever, maybe he has no power at this point.
But if I was advising the president, I would say, make him the fall guy.
Put it all on Clapper.
Get rid of him.
Put a new guy in place.
Tell him he's a liar.
You can always pardon him later in a couple of years.
You don't know.
Actually, that would be a great idea.
You throw him under the bus.
You tell him in advance you can do it.
Dude, I'm sorry.
So here's what's going to happen to you.
You're going to get thrown under the bus, and then you're going to take the blame for the whole thing.
Exactly.
And you know what?
And the guy is patriotic enough that he would say, okay, I'll do it.
Oh yeah, you do it in a second.
Yeah, I'd do it.
He doesn't look like the guy who would say no to that.
Or you could say no to that and end up dead.
Yeah.
With a phony suicide note saying that the whole thing was your idea and you're sorry.
So why do you think that hasn't taken place?
And one step further, why is Clapper apologizing to Tapper?
You tell me.
It's weird.
Well, I mean, Clapper's not some important person that needs to be, you know, stay in that job.
Well, as we know, according to Executive Order 12333, the Director of National Intelligence, everybody reports into him, including the CIA, or whatever they think, whatever they want to report into him, but everyone is supposed to report into him.
He's the central guy between the intelligence community and the President.
Maybe Clapper's in on the deal.
Maybe Clapper knows about the whole CIA-NSA thing.
Well, even if he does, what difference does it make?
The only thing I'm saying is, what difference does it make?
It would be nice to know!
What's going on?
He's not going to say anything, even if they threw him under the bus.
Let's agree that the term throwing them under the bus just has to be banned from this show.
It's not a good term.
Okay, okay.
Now you're up one.
I'll have to come up with one of your little favorites to get rid of it.
Maybe bitch.
You always say bitch.
Well, don't act like one, then.
It should be banned.
It should be banned.
Okay, it's banned.
Done.
It'll be much easier for me to do that.
I did see...
Wait a minute.
Are you telling me that it would be difficult for me to not use under the bus?
We shall see.
But you implied.
That's exactly what I meant.
I'm looking at this document, which I did not hear a lot about, and apparently there's an EFF.org.
I'm not quite sure how they...
I'm sure they're getting it from Poitras or God knows...
But the Electronic Frontier Foundation has an RSS feed for their, what do they call this?
It's the, any document that comes out, essentially, NSA spying.
I think if you go to eff.org slash NSA dash spying, and then you can get these documents.
And so if this is a true document, I thought this was hilarious, and I didn't hear anyone reporting on it.
And this is from 2009 from the Copenhagen COP15 Climate Change Conference.
And it's a report from SINIO. What is that?
Signal Intelligence...
I don't know all these codes they use.
Anyway, analysts here at NSA, as well as our second-party partners, will continue to provide policymakers with unique, timely, and valuable insights into key countries' preparations and goals for the conference, as well as deliberations within countries on climate change policies and negotiating strategies.
We're spying on the greenies!
Good.
It's about time we put it to good use.
That's really...
That's damning, man.
They're not terrorists.
Well, maybe they are.
Given such large participation, with all 192 UN member states invited to attend, leaders and negotiating teams from all around the world will undoubtedly be engaging in intense last-minute policy formulations.
At the same time, they will be holding frequent sidebar discussions with their counterparts, details of which are of great interest to our policymakers.
While the outcome of the Copenhagen Climate Change Conference remains uncertain, Signal's intelligence will undoubtedly play a significant role in keeping our negotiators as well-informed as possible throughout the two-week event.
Ha ha ha!
Wow!
Oh.
Wow.
We're evil.
Oh, it's all for the good of the country.
Oh, of course it is.
USA. USA. We're number one.
We are number one.
I don't know number one in what?
Spying.
That's what the CELAC finds as well.
This is the Caribbean and Latin American countries, I believe.
They have a little conference, the CELAC. And the president of Bolivia, who was in on the game, by the way, pretending that his plane was forced down in Vienna.
There's your Vienna reference.
More than 30 Latin American and Caribbean countries are declaring the region a zone of peace.
They signed the agreement during a two-day summit in Cuba.
The countries pledged to respect each other's right to choose their own political system.
That's particularly important to Cuba, who has been criticized harshly for their one-party system.
The US was not invited to the summit, but it remained a hot topic, especially for the recent surveillance operations.
If spying is needed for the international community security, I propose that we all spy on Obama and his government, and then the world will be safe.
And then the world will be safe.
Hey, don't go off script, Mr.
President of Bolivia.
Stick with the program.
Everything will be fine.
Don't be ad-libbing.
Don't be ad-libbing, okay?
Stop.
So, just as breaking news for the show, even though we do this once in a while.
Breaking news.
Breaking news.
Philip Seymour Hoffman, dead.
What?
Yeah.
Oh my gosh, that's shocking.
Yeah.
He's young.
He's his parent drug overdose, but...
Really?
I didn't come up with that.
He's pretty young.
He's not...
He's 46.
Holy crap!
Wow.
In his New York apartment.
Well, if you gotta go, might as well go in the New York apartment.
With a hooker?
Well, the hooker was not there, if there was a hooker.
Wow, that's sad.
That's a great actor.
Yeah, he played a lot of very controversial roles.
All right.
Well, thanks for bumming me out.
Sorry.
I didn't know you knew the guy, did you?
Kind of.
No, kind of.
I met him once.
Very shy.
Hmm.
Alright.
We got a couple things going on.
You know what I'm thinking?
What?
I got it, because I've been tracking this.
I'm going to guess heroin.
And there is...
I've been tracking something here.
Something is going on with the poppies.
Now, we know we're about to pull out of Afghanistan, or so-called.
And everywhere I turn, it's all about heroin.
And I'm thinking a couple of things.
First of all, if we actually do pull out away from the poppy stand fields...
Who is going to run the heroin into America is the question.
It will be very hard because we just won't have the flow.
We won't have the throughput of the planes.
We won't have the mechanism in place.
And people, if you think I'm just bullshitting you here, go watch American Gangster and seriously, go look at...
Which was a true story.
True story.
True story.
And who says it's no longer true?
And look up MENA, Arkansas.
And there's a million places you can find information about this.
And please look at where the bases are in Afghanistan.
You will see that they are conveniently located.
I think we've beaten this up on the show quite a bit.
Not everyone has been listening to the show for a long time.
And the United Nations Office of Drug Policy and Drug Tracking, year over year, and this year, no different production of heroin off the charts.
And here's what I'm seeing.
I'm seeing nothing but heroin promotion here this week.
Son of Senator Mark Udall, Democrat of Colorado, was arrested this week on drug possession and trespassing charges.
The Boulder County Sheriff's Office said Thursday, Jebediah Lee Fox Udall...
Great name, by the way.
Jebediah Lee Fox Udall was taken into custody on Wednesday after the sheriff's office received a report that a man matching his description was trying to break into cars in El Dorado Springs, Colorado.
After the authorities stopped and searched him, Mr.
Fox Udall admitted to having used heroin in the past 48 hours.
Okay, and then we have from yesterday.
State health officials say a deadly batch of heroin is hitting Maryland streets Friday.
The already potent drug is now being laced with fentanyl.
So we got heroin.
We had the...
What's it laced with what?
Fentanyl.
Do you know what this is?
Fentanyl?
No.
I think it's 80 times more powerful than morphine.
That fen-fen stuff?
We talked about it a couple shows ago?
No.
I think we talked about this stuff before.
No, no.
This is something different.
It's fentanyl.
And by the way, the story of the Udall kid seems more to me to be connected to the legalization of marijuana in Colorado.
As a cautionary tale, you're going to watch it come out.
Oh, well, I started by smoking marijuana, and then the next thing I know, I wanted to use heroin.
Well, that's not how the story ends.
In fact, he was picked up for heroin last year, so it's really not...
They do not...
Could be.
Udall is also a Democrat, so they're not even trying to rip any Republican guy.
But this deadly heroin...
Republicans don't use drugs.
Wow, look at this.
Heroin-fentanyl mix plaguing many states.
Oh, this is much bigger than I thought.
But it's all just really...
That's the stuff we talked about, fentanyl.
That's the stuff that they are using in Syria?
Was that it?
Yeah, I think so.
No, that was something else, John.
It's a painkiller.
Okay, now we got to go.
It's something different.
It's a painkiller.
You got the markbook?
Syria drug problem.
It was not fentanyl.
Because these guys would be falling down.
That was more like a hypo thing that they were using.
All right, we're on the stick here.
Yeah, you're on the stick?
Yeah, keep talking.
So this mix of heroin and fentanyl has a trade name, Theraflu, which is funny, because whenever I have...
I don't feel good.
I love taking Theraflu.
You take Theraflu?
Yeah.
But not this kind of Theraflu.
There's also a competing brand called Magic City.
And the fentanyl, so when you mix these two together, it's like heroin to the max.
It goes to 11.
And 39 people have died in Baltimore alone of this mix.
Yeah, fentanyl.
Syria.
Really?
State issues.
Fentanyl warning follow overdoses.
Holy crap.
Fentanyl causes overdose boom in Estonia.
John, we're on to something here.
This is...
I think this is significant.
And what happens if we find out that the actor, Philip Seymour Hoffman, if he OD'd on heroin and fentanyl mix?
I don't think it's...
At this point, based on the way things go in this show and what we come up with, yeah.
Yeah!
Wow!
Totally!
But so this is now related...
So Syria...
This is the...
Now you have a Syria...
The Afghanistan connection.
Man, we are so good.
Wow.
So we bring in the heroin from Afghanistan.
We got the separate trade route from Syria with the fentanyl.
We mix it up, and we sell up the kids for $4 a bag.
Is this a great country or what?
And Philip Hoffman is the spokeschild.
The spokesperson.
Good work.
Good work.
Oh, man.
Because you know all of it's just promo.
You know, if you're a kid, like, hey, that's fentanyl stuff.
I mean, seriously, listen to...
They got a kid in this report.
A powerful painkiller.
Right there.
I'm already interested.
You put those two together, it's like one plus one equals a million.
Hello, Common Core.
Common Core.
Wow.
I'm all over this.
Substance abuse expert Mike Gimbel says this could just be the tip of the iceberg.
Yeah, where's the rest of the iceberg?
Sounds like that's another Soledad clone.
As more of this hits the street in a battle to win over new customers, more people are going to run to it thinking they can handle it, and they can't.
We are so number one.
The office of the medical examiner says the drug has killed 37 people statewide.
Losers.
Just don't know how to do it.
Losers.
In September, most being in Baltimore City, Baltimore, Prince George's, and Anne Arundel counties.
I go lock myself in my bathroom.
This man describes to CBS... Now, this is not a man.
This is a kid, all right?
This is a teenager describing how he takes it.
I lock myself in the bathroom.
...seving news what it's like to try the lethal drug.
Within probably 20 seconds, I was out.
How the...
Yeah!
Wow!
20 seconds, I was out!
Good to go.
Where do I pick me up some H&F? Well, I was going to say, if you remember one of the things that we talk about on the show, and you like to actually harp on, is that the more that you should, and that's the reason that it increases tobacco sales, is that if you put all these horrible warnings on, this will kill you.
The more you sell.
You sell more, and that's also the basic thesis that we have based on all the commercials.
Drug disclaimers?
Drug commercials, and all the bad things that are going to happen to you if you try this drug, and people, for some reason, it turns out to be a sales pitch.
And this pitch is being pushed right now, and John, look at, if you just Google, I just Googled fentanyl.
I didn't even Google the heroin mix.
And let me go back to the...
So here it is.
Heroin-Fentanyl mix plaguing many states.
That's the top hit.
And I didn't even put heroin in there.
Just fentanyl.
Fentanyl transdermal patch.
Fentanyl drug effects of durogesic fentanyl.
So now I'm going to do heroin-fentanyl.
Killer batch of white heroin.
Responsible for at least 100 deaths.
Hey!
Hey!
Hmm.
Heroin users warned about deadly additive.
Washington Post.
But this is...
Wow.
This is June 2006.
This is interesting.
So that was their previous marketing push.
Well, this is the...
Okay, let's assume that we're still in play here with the heroin coming in.
Now the supply is going to be...
Prices are about to go up.
Yeah, so you need a filler.
And so what you're doing now is...
Hamburger Helper.
You're promoting this as more than a booster.
It's not like just that you're...
Essentially what we're talking about here, let's be honest about this.
New and improved.
This is cutting heroin.
Yes.
The old-fashioned way where you take some heroin and you cut it back and then you sell somebody some weak crap for a lot of money.
And here's the beauty.
Where's the fentanyl coming from?
Where's the hamburger helper coming from?
It's coming from Syria, which is in play.
So it's cheap.
So it's cheap.
Super cheap.
And it's being sold in the way that things are always sold to America.
One, it's really bad for you.
You might get anal leakage.
Two, it's new and improved, kids!
Look, it's all shiny.
And it has a cool name.
Like Theraflu.
Or Magic Bag.
Whatever.
Magic Bag.
And that's how we sell it.
So this is 2006.
Chicago.
The largest clue that something had changed in Chicago's vibrant heroin market.
2006 people.
Eight years ago.
Came in February.
Oh boy.
February seems to be the harvest.
When police found a dozen users sprawled unconscious in one place.
Toxicologists at the Cook County morgue discovered fentanyl, a powerful painkiller many times stronger than morphine, in the bodies of addicts who died.
A small amount of fentanyl in a dose of heroin adds a pop that many users have come to crave.
That's right.
We even use the term, kids, like pop.
Snap, crackle, and pop.
It's a new phenomenon.
It's the latest high.
That's funny.
How come they're saying it's a new phenomenon all over again eight years ago when it was a new phenomenon in 2006?
Well, you know, if it didn't sell the first time, try it again.
Just repackage it and sell it again.
Lorraine Police, November 12, 2013.
Fake heroin causing ODs is pure fentanyl.
Wow.
Interesting.
We're the only people talking about this.
We're certainly the only people connecting it with Afghanistan and Syria.
I mean, the Syria thing is just crazy.
That's just really crazy, John.
It's wild.
We're out of control on this show.
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Well, you never have to have...
He wants some job karma.
And there's a number of people that will be looking for job karma since we have a short list anyway.
Should we just do that, John?
Yeah, go ahead.
Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
Let's vote for jobs!
You've got karma.
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Now we have Sir Yoho from Woodbridge, Virginia with 1-2-3-3-3, which is interesting.
Oh, that's Executive Order 1-2-3-3-3.
I think that's one of our new donation models.
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I was my misunderstanding of your Dutch that created this no agenda meme, so thusly I would like to be known as Sir Yoho the Swazzle Knight.
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The notes are all the same.
They say nothing.
In today's world, you don't take copious notes.
You get sued.
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$100, and we'll give him some end of the fiscal year karma at the end of the list.
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And then we have a little group.
We have, starting with Ken Burchill, Ottawa, Ontario.
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He wants an F the cancer.
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He's our buddy from the NoAgendaDroid.com, the No Agenda Android app.
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He pledged to donate 33 cents from each purchase.
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Thank you, Rick.
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Hey, good work, people.
Well, coming up a little short today, which is the same as actually, looking at the spreadsheet, I did the calculations, same exact within $10 of last Sunday.
Of last Sunday, yeah.
Weird.
Let's see.
I think it's the Super Bowl.
Super Bowl fever.
Yeah, everyone's like all messed up on heroin and fentanyl.
And fentanyl.
Dude, got any Velveeta?
Dear Adam and John, I'm a knight in need of serious karma.
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If it wasn't so serious, I wouldn't even ask.
Dude, we break for nights here.
Absolutely.
It's just regular karma, right?
Okay.
Here it is, and I'm sure you can share that with a couple other people who are in need of it.
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And thank you very much, Eric Ortner.
He was on the list there with his 55-55.
He says, to celebrate the one-year anniversary of my website, I removed the money made from the site and its unofficial sponsors, which is basically a banner ad, and donated that money to the show.
That's the 50-50.
The website is sexualpredatordrone.com.
I thought there was something funny about that.
It's a funny little site there.
And there are people basically Googling.
And they're like, eh, sexual predator.
Yeah, what's the sexualpredatordrone.com?
That might be hot.
How disappointed they will be.
But we show you a banner ad and there you go.
That's our business model.
Which is truly value for value.
So if you get any value, if you thought this conversation was interesting so far, please think of us.
We had another producer who gave us his Netflix money.
He said he gets more from this show than his Netflix account.
Of course, you'll probably take another free account.
That's the way you go with Netflix.
Just change your name a little bit.
I'm sure if people really looked at what they're spending every single month on so-called informational products.
Oh, it's horrible.
Or information or entertainment products.
Or infotainment.
Which is what it really all is.
Yes.
I bet you people would be like, holy crap.
Hundreds of dollars, cables, ridiculously overpriced.
When you can get good over the air in most parts of the country.
It is, truly.
I told you I put an antenna if I got 87 channels over the air.
When are you going to get your ham stuff going, man, so we can do a QSO? Oh, man, yeah.
A QSO. No.
There you go.
Well, we have no birthdays.
Well, other than Miss Mickey's mom would have celebrated her birthday today, so we think of her today.
But no other birthdays to celebrate on the list.
We do have a nighting, so we have...
Adrian from the Netherlands, John.
Can you bring out the Dutch blade?
Very good.
Adrian Frenoy.
It could be Adrian Frenoy.
Either way, we are very happy to welcome you, sir, to the roundtable, which contains nothing but chairs for knights and dames.
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Just to stretch this segment out a little more, Kevin Grant's the one who canceled his Netflix subscription.
And Brett Mahoney's the one who he gave us a hundred bucks, but he needs I think we should give him some special job karma because he's just getting out of college.
He doesn't want to be homeless.
He's going to need a lot more than just some special job karma.
But for everybody just coming out of college listening to the program, please.
Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
Let's vote for jobs!
You've got karma.
Meanwhile, back at the ranch, I have a little story that's interesting.
This is the nude protest in San Francisco.
I think we should all pay careful attention.
San Francisco police arrested at least four people today at a rally for nudity.
About a dozen protesters were there to mark the first anniversary of the city law banning nudity.
Organizers say there's growing acceptance of what is called body freedom, and they predict the law will be overturned.
Violations, though, right now can lead to a $100 fine.
The ordinance makes exceptions for young children and the beta breakers race.
So they're raised, they're running around naked, and I guess children can go around naked for all the pedophiles out there.
Makes no sense.
This is such a weird country.
Body freedom.
Yeah.
It's like internet freedom, only no packets.
Well, it depends.
Some of these people, I've seen them, they've got plenty of packets.
This country is so weird.
Women can't breastfeed in public, although it's legal everywhere.
It's just suppressed, repressed sexual craziness.
It's no wonder we make the best porn.
We can't do it.
It's really sad.
It really, really is sad.
There's a lot of sex going on.
Yeah, but it's...
We just don't like to display it.
It's embarrassing.
I think it's just the opposite.
Why is it embarrassing to display the human body?
I think it's just the opposite because I think we're a bunch of sex-crazed maniacs.
Well, this is true.
Much more so than a lot of these other countries.
And so by showing more, I think it's just like, no, no, no, no, no, they may figure it out.
Okay, that makes sense.
So the reason why the industry is better and has more money if we don't show nipples and stuff and breasts.
Because God forbid you see a breast.
There's something like that.
The gay white paper.
I've shortened it now to just the gay white paper.
It was released, of course, on Wednesday's newsletter and Thursday.
Lots of people have been hitting people in their mouth with it.
Very interesting to see.
Some of our producers are doing some fun things with it.
Let me see if I can get his name here.
Jaap Gelhout.
Oh, we know Jaap.
He's been a sponsor of the show.
He sent a copy to the Dutch arm of Amnesty International.
Nice.
And they said, and I have the email here, it's in Dutch, so it'll be translating on the fly.
They said, well, so essentially here's what he said.
I'm very confused because you are telling people to boycott the Olympic Games not to go to Sochi because of their anti-gay laws.
But this white paper that I've received, which has been written by a very prominent activist, gay activist, seems to point to the contrary.
And Amnesty International writes back and says, well, you know, we have all the information here, and they give him the URL. He says, yeah, but have you read this white paper because it says something else?
And their reply is, look, we have so much information coming in every day, we don't have time to read white papers.
I swear to God.
That's Franz Stoffeln, Amnesty International Public Affairs.
I sent a copy of the white paper to Andy Hum of the Gay News on Free Speech TV. And, of course, he immediately called you up.
Never heard back.
And I don't expect to, and I don't expect them to change their position.
Russia sucks.
They hate gays.
Well, it's very interesting to see GLAAD... This, of course, is Gay Lesbian Alliance, Alliance and something, a defamation thing.
G-L-A-A-D. And they are, they've got a, they're really all in on this and actually have found a pretty cool website.
They're all in on what?
On making money off of hating Russia for being anti-gay.
Okay.
So they've brought in American apparel and they're making all these t-shirts and they're selling t-shirts.
Oh yeah, they don't want to have anything to do with this white paper.
No, nothing whatsoever.
Go away.
Yeah.
Shh, shh, shh.
And Human Rights Now, they are, and this is, here they sent out a letter.
Time is running out for the sponsors of the Sochi Olympics to take a clear stand in defense of Olympic values!
And, uh...
Values?
Yes, values.
So they...
Wow.
That's, uh, what's an oxymoron.
Thank you.
Human Rights Watch is telling everyone to boycott Atos, Coca-Cola, Dow Chemical, General Electric, McDonald's, Omega, Panasonic, Procter& Gamble, Samsung, and Visa.
We have to get a hold of here.
We have to get a hold before the Social Olympics.
We have to get a hold of the PR people from Coca-Cola in particular.
And get them the white paper.
And get them the white paper.
They'll never do it.
They won't do it.
They don't want to be in the fight.
They just want everyone to drink Coca-Cola.
They're not going to get in the fight.
They're not going to...
No one's going to get in the fight.
No.
We're the only ones in the fight.
Yeah.
And nobody cares.
In fact, by the amount of poor donations and contributions you get for today's show, they really don't care.
You know what?
We got thrown under the bus, John.
Say what, bitch?
Yeah.
Well, let me write that down.
That's the opening of the show.
That's great.
Love that.
Thank you.
Yeah.
It's very disturbing.
How much money is just being made?
Exploitation is what it is.
Total exploitation.
And the gay community is being exploited.
The straight community, everyone's being exploited.
The guilt-ridden liberals are being exploited.
The only people that don't care one way or the other seems to be the conservative right-wingers.
And I guess all these companies that are...
Profiting, they care to profit.
Just before the show started, I had CNN on the background, and the anti-constitutional host known as Fareed Zakaria had on some Russian artist.
I don't know if he was an artist, like a painter or a musician.
Or it could be a house painter.
Could be.
And I just caught the part where he says, you know, I speak Russian and I heard the president's interview and he did not make any direct connection between gays and pedophiles.
This was completely made up.
And Zakaria comes back with, yes, but you're a personal friend of Vladimir Putin, aren't you?
Like, oh God.
Oh, please.
That guy is such a douche.
Yeah, it's really bad.
Wow.
That's actually something I would like to have heard a clip of that.
After the show, I'm going to pick up some stuff.
But for people who are listening to this program, you really, take it from me, I've tried, this is a fight you don't need to have.
You do not have to go out and fight people and say, oh man, Russia's not anti-gay, because you know what's going to happen?
It's not going to end pretty for you.
Yeah, no, just give them a copy of the white paper and walk.
Give them a copy of the white paper and say, oh, you might want to read this.
But what's good is whenever you see this or you hear this, you'll know.
You'll be like, okay, it's just commercialism.
And you'll know for the next time when you're being invited to do something that you're probably being soaked.
You're always being soaked, probably.
If you're invited to do something, you're being soaked.
That's it.
You're being soaked.
Done.
Done.
Funny.
Let's play this.
I got this clip that's just kind of out of the blue.
It's got nothing to do with anything except this kind of hypocrisy of it all, which I think we're kind of talking about.
And that is the hypocrisy of the Democrat liberal wing of the political spectrum, which has always been against the death penalty.
Ah, yes.
I have some clips of this.
Is this a Boston bomber?
Yeah.
Yeah, I pulled a couple clips.
This is good.
Set it up.
Well, apparently Holder says they should kill this kid with the death penalty.
I'm thinking, wait a minute, I thought this whole group of these people, the liberal people involved that run the government, are all against the death penalty, but this guy should be executed?
Calling for the death penalty against the sole surviving attacker in last year's Boston Marathon bombings.
20-year-old Jokhar Tsarnaev is pleading not guilty to killing three people in the April 15th attack.
Another 260 people were wounded when two pressure cooker bombs went off near the finish line of the marathon.
Tsarnaev's older brother was also involved.
He was shot dead by police in a manhunt.
Boston's mayor personally opposes the death penalty, he says, but he supports the attorney general's decision.
As you all know, as a state representative, I voted against the death penalty.
If I were to ask to vote on that today, I would vote the same way.
But this is not my vote to cast or my decision to make.
I support the judicial system, and I support the process that Holder put on today.
Now, okay, I have questions about that.
Do you mind if I have two short clips?
No, I want to hear your analysis.
Mine is just that it's, you know...
Well, I have a question for you.
I have a question.
The death penalty has been abolished in the state of Massachusetts.
Is this now all of a sudden a federal crime?
Is this now different than...
Where is he going to be tried?
I don't understand how...
Did he break a federal law, a terrorism law?
He's a terrorist.
Okay.
Well, let me...
I think the feds got involved, and so now it takes it out of the jurisdiction of the Massachusetts State Police, who are the ones who caught it, and brings it into the federal system.
So first of all, as you know, I think if we're going to kill people for the death penalty, I want it televised, I want it live.
I hope we use the drugs we used last time, where the guy's like, can't breathe, he's gasping for air for 15-20 minutes, he's jerking around.
Yeah, CNN needs something.
No, what do you mean CNN? This is our show.
Oh, you're talking about us doing a show.
Our reality show.
Yeah, I've always believed that should be television.
This is like the Romans, that's what they did with the Coliseum.
Yeah.
You know, I think we're going to kill people for that.
And I can't wait to see the actual video that they say everyone has seen, but no one has seen.
The video that is there, but no one has ever seen.
Where they are actually putting the backpacks into the garbage.
Because even the governor of the state says, I haven't seen it, but they tell me it's there.
I'm reliably informed it's there.
Here's a question for you.
Why don't they just show the video?
What's the big deal?
You know, I think it's too...
They showed all the other videos.
I think it's too frightening for us to see.
It's too frightening to watch us take a backpack with something in it and drop it into a garbage can.
This is going to scare the public?
John, national security interest.
I'm sorry, my friend.
We cannot show this to you.
National security.
Don't you understand?
We're responding to the news that the Department of Justice is going to be seeking a death penalty against Johar Zanaev if he is convicted in the Boston bombings attack.
Again, that was last April.
Three people killed, more than 260 others hurt.
This death penalty trial will be the highest profile, no doubt, since the Timothy McVeigh trial.
Oh, okay.
I thought that was an interesting little combo.
Well, how about this for a thought?
He says, we realize that this whole thing is a bunch of bull crap.
They've got him aside.
They say, okay...
Let's assume he was working for somebody, some agency, or this is part of an exercise that went astray, which I think was one of our original theories.
That was one of our original theories, yeah.
If you say anything about any of this, or even bring up, and even if your defense attorney brings up the things that we haven't got a tape of you putting the bombs in there because we know you didn't do it.
If you say anything, we're going to kill you with the death penalty.
So that's what's going to be on the table.
If you shut up and take this like a man, you'll get the death penalty, but then we're going to commute it.
The system's going to work around it.
You're not going to get the death penalty, and we'll actually get you out.
Yeah.
And while you're in, we'll have all kinds of friends for you.
I mean, that's the only reason that you use that as leverage.
Let's take it back a few steps.
Get him to shut up.
Let's take it back one step.
What has happened with everybody involved in this case so far?
We had the entire...
This was the largest manhunt in, like, U.S. history.
They had an entire...
The city of Boston was shut down.
And in the theory of this was something that went wrong, it wasn't supposed to happen this way, we cannot have these kids talking.
Their friend, shot in the back of the head by the FBI, unarmed.
Remember that?
Oh, yeah.
We can't have anybody talking.
No explanation.
I need to talk to this boy alone.
Yeah.
Okay, boss.
Shot him at the back of the top of the head because he was so dangerous.
The FBI. Oh, he attacked me.
So this clip includes that piece of the...
Was it the mayor or the governor?
I think that was the mayor.
The mayor.
But there's a little clue in here for us about the death penalty and everyone being all in, which is patently not true.
As you all know, as a state representative, I voted against the death penalty.
If I were to ask to vote on that today, I would vote the same way.
But this is not my vote to cast or my decision to make.
I support the judicial system, and I support the process that holder...
Notice he almost said secretary for some reason.
I'm not quite sure why, but...
Nine months after the attack that united the city, it could find itself divided over the Attorney General's announcement.
A newspaper poll found that 57% of Boston residents favored life imprisonment for Jacques Zanaev.
Only 33% want the death penalty.
Oh, 33.
And let me ask you something.
Why did this report mention that?
Because it was 57 versus 33.
You're missing some numbers which are not mentioned in the report.
57 plus 33 equals what?
90.
Thank you.
Where's the rest?
They don't even mention that.
It will now be up to jurors from the Boston area to decide his fate.
Yeah.
10% undecided.
Don't mention.
Only mention the 33%.
There it is.
Once again.
33.
That's the magic number.
We shall see.
But I agree with you.
Shut up, or we're going to kill you.
And there's been tons of things that...
What other...
Who recently got life in prison, but not the death penalty, at a federal level?
Some states are crazy, like Texas.
Like, hey, I don't like you, son.
You can kill you.
That's Texas.
Texas is out of control.
Kill everybody.
But this is Boston, Massachusetts, and Holder has to come out and say, we're going to kill him.
We're going to kill him.
I don't have any problem killing people.
That's right, Eric Holder.
You have no problem.
This president and this attorney general have no problem killing people.
Every Tuesday.
Let's look at the list.
Who's on the list?
Oh, well, looks like a terrorist to me.
Let's kill him.
Blow him.
Blow him up.
Where's the...
Why do I even ask every time?
Why do I even ask?
Why do I even ask where's the outrage?
Here's an example of...
I don't know what even to call this, but this is The Blaze, which is Glenn Beck's TV network that's on certain cable systems.
And they have a bunch of...
Another outfit making a lot more money than we are, by the way.
Yeah, but they're selling a lot of, they're in the seed business too.
Really?
Seeds, gold?
Oh yeah, seeds and gold and all the crap.
They haven't really got any good advertisers.
It's all a bunch of low-end stuff.
Junk.
And they have a bunch of news reporters, including a real, kind of a cute, funny-looking woman.
Blonde, who does a lot of the regular meat puppet stuff.
And then they have these panels.
But this is the kind of crap news that's very political.
The Democrats are all a-holes and crazy cities like San Francisco.
So I had to...
I looked at this one up.
This was classic.
This crack pipe story, which was used on their show just to show you how crazy and stupid the liberal San Francisco is.
Lost my time, Q, but I got a heartwarming story out of San Francisco where they are going to try to go through on a plan to hand out clean crack pipes to crack users.
It's not unlike needle exchange programs, you know, for, I guess, people who are addicted to heroin, they get clean needles.
But the whole idea behind the needle exchange program is to try to circumvent the spread of AIDS, right, and blood-transmitted diseases.
I don't understand the reasoning for passing out clean crack pipes other than making crack more enjoyable.
San Francisco's tried these kind of things.
We'll say, bring us your homeless.
We'll take in your homeless.
You get a stipend, by the way, if you're homeless.
It is the cold season, my friend.
It is the cold season, right?
Vinovirus spreads very quickly.
Right.
San Francisco has a way of encouraging a certain type of thing to flock to their city.
Well, that would explain how Nancy Pelosi keeps getting re-elected.
Nancy Pelosi joke.
This is just a great, great example of the kind of misreporting you get on these sort of alternative news stations.
And this is what's going on.
I want to explain.
There is a story there, but it's a small group of two or three people.
It's not San Francisco.
the city is a group of people that are making a big fuss about the fact that crack pipes are actually illegal in San Francisco.
They're totally illegal.
And so they're this little group of activists about, you know, just that you don't we don't can't even identify them.
It could be one guy is threatening to give away crack pipes because these crack users can't use them.
That's it.
It's not some scheme.
It's like, you know, it's because of AIDS.
They did the needle exchange.
Now they're going to do a crack pipe pipe exchange.
It's illegal.
This is like this is the worst kind of misreporting based on politics.
So you can needle the other side.
And this whole idea of one side versus the other, which you get with Bill Maher on one side and these idiots on the other, it's annoying.
It's subversive.
I think it's some of the worst kind of thing that could be on television.
I think the Blaze should be ashamed of itself for doing this sort of thing.
I know one of the head writers at the Blaze, Coach Mike, Mike Opelka.
And I know him because for many, many years he was the producer and writer of The Morning Zoo in New York.
And they have a pretty big operation.
They send out show prep every morning.
He does that.
And it goes to, of course, the Beck and the radio guys, but they have affiliates.
I don't really know the whole structure of the Blaze network, but they have affiliates.
And it's essentially, he's doing the same shtick as he's always done, except instead of, you know, hey everybody, it's the morning zoo!
It's just insert Blaze instead of zoo.
It's the same material.
Well, it's posing as something else.
I'm sorry?
And it's not on the radio.
I mean, Beck has a radio show, but The Blaze is a TV show.
No, but it's the same material.
Yeah, the same model.
Same material.
It works, but it'll work.
I admire the fact that they're making money and they're having a good time, but people should be aware and cautious when they watch these sorts of things.
Whereas if you really track the news like we do, you'd have all of these stories about 2030.
It's time for the rundown.
I need a jingle for this, actually.
It's time for the rundown.
The 2030 rundown.
Okay.
All right, here we go.
Now, wait.
Let's back up a second.
You came up with this 2030 thing out of the blue, or were you given a clue about 2030?
No, I was thinking about a donation level, really, which you still have not done anything with that.
I'll do it in the next newsletter.
Although I like 1-2-3-3-3 better.
I like 1-2-3-3-3 a lot more.
Yeah.
Five times more, to be exact.
So we came up...
I was just thinking about numbers.
Numerology is very interesting on our show.
And I thought, okay, we had Y2K, which was the big disaster, which was hundreds of millions, if not billions of dollars of money.
And there was some legitimate stuff that had to be fixed.
But it wasn't like this Armageddon.
Then we had 2012.
And people make lots of money off of these bogative numbers.
And then I looked at the numerology, and I thought...
You know, 2030, that seems like a good number.
It seemed like the right amount of years to look forward to something really bad happening.
And now, of course, just like 33, people are sending me 2030 stories.
This is the Club of Rome, which is not to be underestimated.
Club of Rome.
These are the super elites.
Limits to growth in a study about the future of our planet.
I could read the whole thing to you, but the bottom line is...
40 more years, 2030, we're all going to be dead.
This was apparently an older study.
2030, next Great Depression.
MIT study predicting global economic collapse by 2030.
Woo-hoo!
MIT. There's a couple of those.
And Times of India headline.
Humans will need two Earths by 2030.
By the way, 2030 on my cycles is the equivalent of 1990, the beginning of a huge economic boom.
That's why we've got to be all in on this.
And then someone sent me this FM 2030, which apparently Freedon, he's a Persian guy, Faridun Esfandieri had himself cryogenically frozen.
He was a transhumanist philosopher, futurist, and consultant.
There's a transhumanist movement.
I'm just reading.
A consultant.
What do you do?
People are giving you a bad time about being a podcaster in Austin.
Say you're a transhumanist consultant.
I need business cards.
Transhumanist consultant.
I can say it with a straight face, too.
Try it out on me.
Hey, good to meet you.
Adam Curry, yeah.
What do you do now?
Oh, after I left MTV, I became a transhumanist consultant.
Oh, that sounds interesting.
Yes, I'm cryogenically frozen.
As we speak.
FM 2030 is the game.
So I guess in 2030, that's his 100th birthday.
He's supposed to come back to life or something.
Time for the depression.
Yeah, so all of these will be entered into the registrar at the2030club.com.
Get in on it.
Start making your money.
And send us a little bit, because we're promoting it.
We are promoting the total Armageddon of 2030, which is fact.
It's just a fact.
Along with global cooling.
From the Great Lakes to the Atlantic shores and all the waterways in between, it is an effect of one of the coldest Januaries on record.
No, that's not even possible.
Ice jams.
They make for some spectacular winter scenery, but as our Kristen Dahlgren reports, they're also causing serious problems on some of the nation's most vital waterways.
I did not know that this was taking place.
Everything is so frozen that they have ice breakers out in our inter...
Like in Lake Michigan?
Lake Michigan, but also...
Lake Erie would be the place where there's a lot of commerce.
Also, yeah, and the Hudson River.
Icebreaker.
It's like the North Pole.
Dynamite.
Okay.
Dynamite.
Thank you.
And then we have Gina McCarthy.
Gina McCarthy is the new head of the EPA, which is, as you know, an agency that was created by executive order by Richard Nixon.
And they are responsible for doing a lot of things.
And she is talking to some scientists here, and she has a very, very clear message.
But scientists, you folks help us understand our world.
You help EPA to meet our mission of public health protection and environmental protection.
I need you now.
What?
Gina McCarthy?
Yes.
She sounds like one of those elitists that talk, you know, like she reads poetry on her spare time.
I think she actually has a deep, maybe Boston accent.
I've heard her, this doesn't actually sound very much like her.
She looks like Gene McCarthy, the guy who ran for president.
Alright, be quiet, then you can hear the gotcha in this little clip.
More than ever, to speak the truth.
I need you to stand up together with us and explain what the science is telling you.
To tell people that science and technology improvements will allow us to take action moving forward that meets the needs of this president as he has charged EPA. It needs to meet the needs of this president.
Shut up already.
Silence.
We need to meet the president's needs.
Wow.
Uh-huh.
That's hardcore.
That would have been clip of the day if it wasn't for the other clip of the day.
I already got it.
That's good.
You got two today.
You can't load me with too many clips of the day, man.
It's just not okay.
You don't rarely believe me.
It's not that common.
Well, here's a story breaking out here.
What?
Another dead actor?
No, this is...
No, not yet.
No, play the clip Guns on Facebook and tell me what...
There's a lot of interesting angles to this little story.
Kyiv. Kyiv. Kyiv. Kyiv. Kyiv. Kyiv. Kyiv. Kyiv.
In the United States, you can buy shotguns, revolvers, and even assault rifles on social networks.
There are all manner of ads on Facebook and Instagram, leading web users to second-hand firearms they can purchase without any background checks or having to provide a criminal history record.
It's an alarming phenomenon, something the Mums Demand Action advocacy group wants to stamp out with the help of an online campaign launched on Monday.
Social networkers can show their support under the End Facebook Gun Show's hashtag by addressing messages to the powers that be at Facebook and Instagram, urging them to stop allowing this unregulated gun trade.
Web users can also choose from a list of pre-written tweets, highlighting, for example, that if you sell firearms without background checks, they could fall into the wrong hands.
Is this the Moms Demand action group that this is about?
Yeah.
Which was bought by Bloomberg, just want to point that out, which is run by a former Monsanto spokeswoman.
This is what we're talking about?
Yeah, yeah.
Okay, good.
And I should mention, this is the second show where we've caught this new kind of model, which is pre-written tweets, because you're an idiot.
Yeah.
And 144 characters, God, you could get lost in such probes.
So you need a pre-written tweet.
Yeah.
I think they even have web pages where you just click on it, you click on the link, and then it fills everything out.
Yeah, auto-tweets.
Yeah, and it just tweets right for you, yeah.
Yeah, this is part of the whole, you know, get women to be Democrats.
That's why moms, it's always moms.
Yeah, this is Moms Demand Action.
And it was recently rolled into Bloomberg's Mayors Against Guns thing.
I forget what it's called exactly.
But it's really one woman who was a PR person for Monsanto for many years.
And then she started her own consultancy.
She changes her name and then becomes Moms Demand Action.
A very, very, very shallow money-making scheme.
And part two of it just kind of rolls out to kind of just a couple little extra gotchas in there.
Because there's a third element here, which is kind of disconcerting, that is brought up in the conversation quite a bit.
You may or may not spot it, but I'll explain after this clip.
Wow, that sounded really condescending.
No, it's because it's kind of buried.
You may not catch it, but I'll explain it later.
I'm surprised you've never heard of this law.
I'm stunned that you don't know that the NFL is a bunch of douchebags.
You can't handle that, can you?
You're really mad about that.
There's also an online petition addressed to the CEOs of Facebook and Instagram, Mark Zuckerberg and Kevin Systrom.
It's asking them to change their user policies and prohibit all sales and trades of guns on their platforms, and in particular, private sales between anonymous parties.
The campaign instigators say both platforms should take inspiration from policies adopted by other sites, like online classified ads platform Craigslist, which explicitly prohibits the buying and selling of firearms in its terms and conditions.
eBay has a similar ban, although it does allow trading of some gun accessories, but only under certain conditions.
Well, you're going to have to explain it to me.
Yeah, I know.
I said it was buried.
But this came up in the conversation a number of times when they were talking about gun legislation after one of the shootings.
I think the school one.
Whichever school.
Whatever six-week one there was.
And so it was...
Oh, they were very critical about this.
They said, oh, the gun guys are saying that Joe won't be able to sell his guns to Bill who lives next door.
That's never going to happen.
There's no way that Bill can't sell his guns to his friend.
Well, buried in this story, it said right there that they're concerned about people doing, you know, selling private sales of me selling you my gun without me getting a background check on you.
It was very clear in there.
So that's bullcrap.
That's what they're going after.
They're going after getting the women to vote Republican and making so, if you own a gun, that gun has to be completely monitored.
It's whereabouts has to be monitored.
Well, and so that, of course, is the, I guess, RFID or something.
There's going to have to be some way to do that.
I kind of like it.
I wouldn't mind.
I mean, if that were actually law, I'd be like, I would sell a gun to all of my neighbors for a dollar just to get the mental check on them.
That'd be kind of funny.
I got this check and you're nuts.
No wonder you never have your garbage out on the right day.
People forget to put their garbage out.
We got a note here from one of our producers, which I, if you don't mind, I'll just read it on the fly.
Listening to the show, I thought you guys could use some insight into what fentanyl is.
Why, yes, we could use some insight.
And remember that our producing audience of the No Agenda show is incredibly diverse and...
We have big shots.
In all areas.
In all areas.
It is a pharmaceutical painkiller that either comes in the form of a lollipop...
Or a time-released patch that lasts 72 hours.
The lollipop actually tastes like candy, but if a drug dealer tries to sell you a morphine lollipop or a morphine patch, it's actually fentanyl.
In order of strength, the list goes as follows.
One, codeine.
Two, hydrocodone, which is Vicodin.
Three, oxycodone, which is Percocet or Oxycontin.
Four, morphine.
Five, hydromorphone.
Six, oxymorphone.
Seven, iPhone.
Seven, fentanyl.
He says, what I don't quite understand is how they could cut heroin with fentanyl and keep the drug as cheap as it is.
Fentanyl is expensive.
It's an American pharmaceutical and it's expensive.
The reason that so many people overdose is that instead of wearing the patch for 72 hours, they cut it open and eat the drug inside.
Ah, to give an example of how much a person can handle it once, a lollipop comes in strength between 400 and 1200 micrograms, and the patch should be worn for 72 hours typically has about 10 milligrams.
I prefer to stay anonymous for this email.
I didn't mention his name.
Okay.
This is very funny.
So I mentioned that we have people who are experts in all fields.
Here's his credentials.
I'd prefer to stay anonymous for this email because years ago I had a problem with opiates.
I'm clean now and have been for three years.
Good on you.
I would prefer not to have this message attached to my name.
All right.
He does have a website that I won't mention either, just not connected to anything.
Well, that's interesting.
Now, it's made in Syria inexpensively.
Why is it so expensive here?
I think it's just gouging.
It must be gouging, and the cheap stuff that's flooding the streets must be coming in from Syria.
Why not?
No, it must be.
And in fact, check out this little link.
That I found might help us.
Israel's military chief has said that some of the Al-Qaeda militants going to fight in Syria have bases in neighboring Turkey.
There you go.
So why don't we take the...
Maybe...
Maybe this chemical weapons is something maybe we misunderstood.
Maybe the chemicals are something else.
Well, the chemical weapon thing is weird because the Navy, and I have the report here, that this is not being reported.
The only place you're going to report this or hear about this is on All Hands Radio, which comes right out of NAVSEC, which is the Secretary of the Navy's, the only guy who has a website.
And you are the only person in that viewing audience.
Me and another guy.
Their Nielsens are not looking good.
Navsec guy, our Secretary of the Navy probably listens to it.
But if you listen to this, this is quite interesting because this is the all-hands radio.
I have the whole thing.
You have to cut it off because I didn't clip it because I didn't have time.
But the beginning of the report talks about what they're going to do.
They're going to actually take the chemicals, put them on some crazy ships that they're going to have specially outfitted, and supposedly destroy them at sea.
Yeah.
Have you heard this?
Yes, and we're worried about Fukushima.
I find the whole thing to be peculiar.
This is All Hands Radio News.
I'm Petty Officer Tyrell Morris.
That's the gig for me, by the way.
Right there.
I'm Petty Officer Adam Curry.
This is the All Hands Radio News.
The container ship MB Cape Ray and her crew deployed this week from Portsmouth, Virginia.
Cape Ray is part of a DOD initiative to assist in the neutralization of serious chemical weapons.
SecDef said the deployment is the first of its kind, as chemical weapons have never been destroyed on a vessel at sea and international waters.
The Surface Navy is taking a page from the aviation community by standing up their own version of the highly selective Top Gun program.
Okay, that's it.
He goes from story to story.
He doesn't have any breaks.
Hey, hold on a second.
The Syria thing, I think that was methyl fentanyl.
Not fentanyl, but methylfentanyl.
I think it's essentially the same product.
It's an analog, but it's much cheaper to produce.
Why wouldn't we use that?
I think that's what we're using to cut heroin.
Well, that's what we're using in the heroin, yeah.
While 3-methylfentanyl was initially sold in the black market for only a short time between 1984 and 1985, its high potency made it an attractive target to clandestine drug producers.
10 to 15 times more potent than fentanyl.
There you go.
That's the stuff we want.
Yeah, hell with fentanyl.
That's for pussies.
That's training wheels, son.
You want your methyl fentanyl.
MF for short.
Huh.
So the whole thing is...
And, and, ho-ho, oh my goodness.
3-methylfentanyl was also reported by Russian media as the identity of the anesthesic gas, Colocol-1, used in the Moscow theater hostage crisis in 2002.
It's used as a chemical weapon.
Nice.
Whoa!
Well, maybe we don't know what those chemical weapons are.
Maybe it's just a bunch of methyl fentanyl.
And it's going to be hauled on the ship and not destroyed.
Exactly.
Taking it to the CIA to blend with heroin.
No, no.
What do you mean?
It's already unloaded on our shores.
Okay.
Yes.
Why behind?
Why did they dump it?
It's like, hey, yeah, not those.
Put that in the water.
Yeah, remember the bin Laden thing?
Wink, wink.
Wink, wink.
We're doing one of those.
Yeah, we're throwing it in the ocean.
It says right here in the Book of Knowledge, use as a chemical weapon.
Huh.
Okay, so we're being confused.
So the whole thing...
Yeah, this is a complete...
This is an information screw job.
This is great!
Chemical weapon, yeah, methyl...
Methylfentanil.
Yeah, methylfentanil.
And the Navy ship, which was a container ship, by the way, if you listen to that report.
Yeah, do they have like a crane and everything?
It's a container ship, meaning it holds a lot of stuff.
A lot, yeah.
Yeah.
Wow.
Wow.
It's the knockout gas.
Yeah.
This is very sketchy.
Wow.
It makes so much sense.
We take the stuff, we're like, man, this is good stuff.
What do we have?
I got some iPhone 3s.
Fuck, throw that shit overboard, man.
Fuck.
Throw that overboard.
Welcome to New York Harbor.
Welcome to Philadelphia.
Welcome to San Francisco.
Welcome to Vermont.
Hey, what you got?
Oh, nothing much.
Drop off this one container, cargo container.
How?
Container ship.
Wow.
Yeah, you know, if the world weren't so crazy and I hadn't seen so much nutty stuff in all my 50 years, I would literally turn this podcast off and roll my eyes and go...
Turn it off and scream.
These guys are morons.
Like, no, no, no.
Instead, we're going to leave you on this high note, so to speak.
Yay.
I want to talk about the Central African Republic on next Thursday's show because all hell's breaking loose there and nobody wants to talk about it.
Looking forward to it.
In fact, our economic hitman said we're the only place that he can find anything, anybody talking about it.
It's us.
He thinks it's a huge humanitarian problem.
We will be talking about that and, of course, celebrating the Seahawks' win from your tax dollars.
All right, John, are you watching the game at home or are you going somewhere?
No, no, it doesn't mean anything to me.
I'm going to watch it at home.
Probably slip a few of the commercials.
Probably not, actually, when I think about it.
I'm just going to cook a meal and watch the game.
Ah, nice.
I'm going to hang out with Miss Mickey.
We're going to watch the game.
It'll be fun.
We both enjoy men with tight asses.
All right, coming to you from FEMA Region 6, here in Austin, Tejas, Gitmo Nation, the drone star state.
In the morning, everybody, my name is Adam Curry.
And from northern Silicon Valley, where the rain has stopped at least for a minute or two, which is, I'd rather have it raining.
Back to the rain stick, I'm John C. Dvorak.
We are your petty officers here in Gitmo Nation, bringing you the hourly news.
We'll talk to you on Thursday right here on No Agenda.
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