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Adam Curry.
John C. Dvorak.
It's Thursday, December 12th, 2013.
Time for your Game Boy Nation Media Assassination, episode 573.
This is no agenda.
Another one bites the dust.
So we're up early in FEMA Region 6 here in the Travis Heights hideout in Austin, Texas in the morning, everybody.
I'm Adam Curry.
And from Northern Silicon Valley, FEMA Region 9, as it would be called, in an emergency, I'm John C. Dvorak.
We don't have some delay or anything, do we?
That was just you?
It was what?
Do we have some enormous delay, or was that just you being slow on the draw?
Is there...
I don't know.
It could be a delay.
Oh, no.
That sounds okay.
We'll be all right.
Well, here's what happened.
Uh-oh.
I'm on the laptop.
Oh, which means the big machine borked?
The big machine has this common message, which I have tried to correct, but it doesn't seem to want to deal with.
I think my main hard disk went out.
Reboot and select proper boot device.
Or insert boot media in selected boot device and press the key.
Oh, wow.
Yeah, that's your boot sector.
Or something like that.
Yes.
It's all going to be in our post-apocalyptic technology book, John.
This will be one of the messages.
After the EMP strike, you get some boot sector thing, and you've got to know what to do.
Yeah, well, put up the laptop.
For those of you who don't, or those of you who are, of course, listening live to the show, we're an hour earlier than normal, and this is because we have a nuptials taking place today in the Dvorak family.
Right.
Buzzkill Jr.
getting married, which came as quite a surprise.
You only told me about this a week ago.
I think I mentioned it a year ago.
Well, no, you said he was engaged, but that doesn't mean there's no set time limit on engagement.
Well, I always thought there was.
Really?
Yes, you get engaged.
What do you just get engaged?
Open engagement?
You just stay engaged for the rest of your life?
I don't know.
I agree that you probably told me that he was engaged a year ago, but you didn't say like, oh, the wedding's in two months.
I didn't get any of that.
Just, hey, we've got to start early on Thursday.
Why?
JC's getting married.
Have you done your rehearsal dinner and everything?
Yeah, we did that last night.
Are you excited?
And Dame Tonya was their actress in Richmond.
Yeah.
Who's one of our regular supporters.
Big fan of the show, of course.
She is a waitress at this restaurant.
You're kidding me.
Well, as an actress, what else do you do when you're not working right?
Wow!
So the most important question?
Is she hot?
Yeah, of course.
She's an actress.
That's great.
So is she helping out tonight or this afternoon during the wedding?
No.
It's a family affair.
I didn't even know she worked there.
But it was funny because she introduces herself and I immediately recognize her because I've seen her picture.
Right.
And...
That's funny.
So she's all giddy about working the table.
I bet.
Did she cut the bill in half?
Instead of tipping her, I said, consider this a donation to the No Agenda show.
You cheap bastard!
No, I couldn't do that.
It's a funny idea, though.
Just to do it to people who don't even know what the No Agenda show is.
Do it that way.
Just do it for everybody, yes.
It's like, tip went to God.
Right.
Anyway, she was really thrilled to meet the shill.
Well, I'd be thrilled to meet the shill.
I've never met Eric either.
Yeah, well, she was giddy.
Anyway, she's great.
She's homeschooling her kids.
Of course she is.
Everybody's in town.
This is good.
Is everyone staying at the house?
No, everyone's scattered around.
You have them at La Quinta Inn?
Can't have them around the house.
Stay at La Quinta.
There's no La Quinta in the neighborhood.
Have you ever seen a La Quinta?
Yeah, I've driven past them.
I've never stayed at one.
Oh, I've stayed at them.
They're bad.
Are they?
Oh, that's good to know.
They all have the standard breakfast room.
Now, if we were a normal show with advertisers, we could never say that.
They have this standard breakfast room, and it's the same in every single La Quinta.
So you have your typical really bad cereal boxes and stuff, but they have a waffle iron that flips around.
What?
Yeah, on a rod.
A swivel.
A swivel, yeah.
And they have a big plastic jar of goop.
This is the breakfast, not in the room.
No, in the breakfast room.
They have a common breakfast room.
Oh, yeah.
I've seen these.
Oh, it's so disgusting.
Yeah, it's a mess because people don't know how to make a waffle.
Well, it's also in that plastic squeezy bottle, which is just like, bleh.
The goop.
The batter's in a squeezy bottle?
Yeah, it's in a big squeezy bottle, which I'm sure comes from some, you know, Amco.
Yeah, Cisco or one of those food supply operations.
Anyway, the restaurant is Cosmo.
If anybody's in Berkeley, they should go there and eat and ask for their waitress to be Tonya.
Right, Dame Tonya.
And she'll help them.
Chad has been staying with us for a couple days.
He's leaving today.
Chad from Colorado, our executive producer there.
We stayed at his house on the Hot Pockets Tour in Colorado.
Right.
You recall?
And Chad is a fireman, medic, and he's going for his lieutenants.
What do you call it?
Lieutenancy?
He's up for lieutenant.
He's up for lieutenant, so he needed some qualifications, and apparently FEMA Region 6 had the course.
So he stayed here, and he's been doing the course.
But we're having nice pancakes this morning.
Miss Mickey gave him a real no-agenda experience, even though it's a Thursday.
What?
Yeah, even though it's a Thursday.
Oh, I was thinking something else.
Anyway, go on.
And we're talking about you and your family and about the wedding and everything.
Yeah, but it's the subject of conversation in a Curry House way.
Well, we figured what we really...
You guys, you are a reality show.
There's truly something...
Yeah, without the low-budget crew around us.
No, yeah, but exactly.
But think about the possibilities.
Yeah.
Yeah, we thought about him.
I just can't have a name.
Like, you know, growing up Dvorak, you know, my life on the leash.
I'm just trying to figure out a good name for the show.
I know.
We could name it.
It would probably be quite successful.
What's that?
Living with the Kardashians.
Yeah.
Titles can't be copyrighted.
Hey, I have now official word, and you heard it here first, and anyone in Austin, Texas who is listening, I can now with certainty tell you that Robert Plant does not live in Austin.
Oh, well that's good to know.
Because I went to his house yesterday.
And there was some fat guy there.
Nope.
He has not been in Austin for several months.
He had a house here.
He still owns it.
He's trying to sell it.
And we got the call.
I guess someone's thinking, oh, Robert Plant, MTV guy.
Hey, you want to take a look at Robert Plant's house?
And of course, Mickey's like, yeah, yeah, we're very interested in buying.
Let's go take a look.
Wow.
He lives in squalor.
Imagine a bunkhouse.
A what?
A bunkhouse.
A bunkhouse?
You mean like a military bunkhouse?
Yes, very much like a...
Now, there's two houses, and this stuff hasn't been updated since 1920.
It's nasty.
Nothing is modern.
And it was definitely his...
I saw his meds were there, and I saw some of his stuff.
I'm poking my nose.
He was there.
Well, he wasn't there there, but some of his stuff is still there.
And it was just like, wow.
It's always so disappointing.
You see how the true celebrities live.
You couldn't pay me to sleep in that house as it is today.
Really?
What did he do with all his money?
He probably has a nice place in the UK, which is where he's been staying.
He doesn't live here.
Oh, okay.
This is just a crash pad.
Literally.
Yeah, I think so.
I think so.
But why would he have one in Austin?
What's his appeal?
I think his girlfriend is from Austin.
Patty?
Maybe it's his wife.
I don't know.
Maybe he married her.
Patty something?
I can't remember her last name.
She's a musician, too.
But not a famous one.
Otherwise, I would remember Patty.
Actually, she probably is well-known.
Patty LaBelle.
Yeah, that's right.
Everybody, please welcome the Honorable Robert Plant and his wife, Patty LaBelle.
That would be a combination I'd like to see.
Anyway, but I was right.
He barely lived here.
It was his crash pad, and I don't think he ever really seriously lived here.
Well, you could have bought it and said you lived in the place.
Yeah, $1.2 million, I don't think so.
That sounds kind of high for a junker.
Yeah, well, it's got an acre, and there are two buildings on it, and there's permits and stuff, but no way.
No way.
Anyway.
You have to save a lot of stuff up.
Yeah.
So there is so much happening, so much going on that I'm over-clipped, actually.
We'll have to save some stuff for Sunday.
I know it already.
Well, we can start off by discussing a little bit of the Mandela...
Yeah, I agree.
I think we have to, because the news, of course...
Especially the guy...
Yeah.
The guy doing signing is still hilarious.
It's the best story, right?
Yeah.
Are you on the DSL or are you on the cable?
I'm on the cable.
Yeah, I can tell.
Yeah, I have to complain about this some more, because the Comcast cable is not as good as a slow DSL. It's ridiculous.
And they were helping me, and then I stopped complaining, and then they stopped helping.
Right, but it's also doing that kind of cutting out thing?
Yeah, it cuts out.
Yeah.
You can't connect this to the DSL? I could, but, you know...
Yeah, why bother?
Yeah.
I also have a feeling you can't really hear me very well.
I can hear you.
Then you're just ignoring me.
What did you say that I ignored?
I'll say something and you won't hear that I'm saying it.
Oh, I'm trying to get a browser working on a little laptop so I can get...
Because I know you're going to drop the A in the morning, John, and I'm going to be...
Okay, take your time with that.
And that's why it's probably cutting out, because I'm opening windows.
Okay, all right.
Well, you take your time there.
Yeah, so the news this morning, for those who haven't heard it, of course, you're on the podcast, and by now you know that the guy signing at the Mandela ceremony...
Signing for the deaf.
Signing for the deaf, yeah.
So he's insane.
Yeah, he reminds me of the guy in the Woody Allen movie, one of the early ones, I think it was Bananas, where they come down the plane and the translator comes out and the guy's just a complete lunatic and the guys in the white jackets come out and chase him around.
You know, just a phony.
But how did they not know this?
Apparently the guy has, according to Jace, Buzzkill Jr., who's followed the story a little better, he says the guy had been busted before.
Yes.
Well, not only that, they've interviewed him now.
AP got an interview with him, and he says, well, you know, I had a schizophrenic episode.
Which apparently he has more often.
The guy is probably a pathological liar, too, apparently.
Oh, yeah.
Well, he takes medication, and he says he suffered an attack during this event, and he heard voices and started hallucinating.
He saw angels.
Now, all of this may or may not be true, but we, as no agenda producers and listeners, we know what this is.
This is a message.
We can get you anytime we want.
Yeah, it's a message that this is how close we can get.
And that was very, very close.
Yeah, he's standing right next to everybody.
He could have assassinated anyone he wanted to.
Yeah.
But now that you look back and you look at his signing, it is pretty funny.
Wow, he's just doing something.
And he's doing the same thing over and over again, with his chest out and everything.
I doubt if he was schizophrenic and nuts.
I think this is just all one big message.
I don't see it any other way.
It could be.
I'm still trying.
Now I'm trying.
I finally got the email working.
I'm trying to find the...
Of course, this is a laptop with a small screen.
So I have to...
This is going to be a bitch when we do the...
It's okay.
It's okay.
Well, then I have some more details.
The other thing that...
The other distraction from the Mandela event, which by itself...
Miss Mickey and I were in the car, so we were listening to the National Treasure...
I mean, we got bored just listening to it.
Imagine having to sit there for all those hours.
Yeah, that's why Obama was flirting with the...
What's her name?
The Danish woman.
Also, I got a couple notes from our producers about the Danish prime minister.
And if you look at the picture...
It's not Obama doing the selfie.
She's doing the selfie.
No, no, I think that's been well established.
Right.
She's got the camera.
She's the one who's looking at it during the ceremony.
But Obama puts his hand on it to make sure he's got more of him in the picture.
It's worse.
So the woman's name, I can't pronounce her last name, but they call her Gucci Hela.
What is her full name?
I have it here.
Hela, Hela, Hela.
Anyway, they call her Gucci Hela because apparently in Denmark they think she's just a moron.
She's like a flake.
Yeah, exactly.
She's married to Stephen Kinnick.
His name may ring a bell.
Son of Neil Kinnick, former laborer.
Was he ever prime minister in the UK? I don't know if he's a prime minister, but certainly top guy.
They raised their two daughters in Copenhagen.
Her husband lives in Switzerland.
I think he's a banker and he comes back time to time just to check up on everything.
But there's this video of her driving through Copenhagen and Sarah Jessica Parker is handing out autographs Maybe at a movie premiere, or maybe it was for Sex and the City.
And she stops the car, she gets out, and she walks over and says, Hi, I'm the Prime Minister.
And Jessica Parker's like, Yeah, back off, lady.
She wanted her autograph, get in line.
So instead of, I don't know, maybe inviting her to the Prime Minister's residence, she's such a groupie, and that fits in with the whole Gucci thing, that she goes over there like, Hey...
Hey, Sarah Jessica Parker, I love you in Sex and the City.
But she's a groupie.
And that's where this whole selfie thing was coming from.
Hey, Cameron, get in here.
She's smoking hot.
And of course...
Well, anyway, so she was the one taking the selfie.
Probably insisted on it.
Obama grabbed the camera, for obvious reasons.
Right.
Okay.
Now, has this done anything to promote the movie at all?
The...
The biopic?
You know, I was thinking about that because I saw the trailer finally so I could figure out what you were talking about.
Right.
I think so.
I don't know if it's going to work, but it's obvious that this is not...
I don't think it's a coincidence.
We got a mini-review from the official NOAA gender groupie, NOAA. Which I'll share with you now.
She says, I finally saw the biopic in one word, instigacious.
Instigacious.
Is that a word?
Instigacious?
It is now.
Even if it's not a real word.
Oh, okay.
Even if it's not a real word.
There you go.
Yes, it showed some glimpses of Mandela placing bombs, but that's only because they had no other choice.
Winnie's necktie or necklace, but hey, she was a radical bitch.
And then again, it's Mandela's autobiography.
She doesn't come out smelling like a rose, but it's mostly make-believe Mandela was ANC's key person and that the violence was necessary.
What bothered me most, it feels like the movie wants to instigate race riots.
I wouldn't be surprised.
I think there's a lot of instigate race riots stuff going on for some reason.
I'll finish this.
In the screening room I was in, most of the viewers were Islamic kids who jeered when white people got beaten.
Meanwhile, quote, the revolution won't be televised and fight the power is blaring loudly during these scenes.
It's worrying.
I don't know what they want to achieve with this movie, but it's not the piece Mandela preached.
Now, that makes sense.
That doesn't surprise me.
Well, I was watching Middle East news in the process of getting clips, and there was a report on what's going on in South Africa now, and all the whites, because there's a lot of action going on.
It's very similar to what happened in Mugabe's country, which is all the whites are freaking out.
Because all their employees now claim that they own the land and all the rest of it.
And they're taking their land back that Mandela promised.
And it appears as though this is going to slide into a classic African mess.
Of course, the Zuma was up and gave a speech.
He was booed, soundly booed.
Because he's extremely corrupt, and apparently so is everybody else.
So the Mandela moment...
There were some claims that Mandela actually was the only one that kept the thing from falling into chaos when they switched over to the ANC rule.
But now, with him gone and nobody to shake their finger, this is not going to go well.
Which, again, is like, well, Nelson Mandela, quote-unquote, changed the world.
Apparently not.
But we'll see.
We'll see.
These guys just could be paranoid, although it doesn't seem like it.
Meanwhile, there's a lot of fun stuff that was coming out of South Africa.
Because I think, again, that certainly in America we have a limited idea.
And if you listen to it, even if you just listen to NPR, it pretty much is all ooga-booga music.
Ooga!
Ooga!
All you can do is have a visual of just natives jumping around.
Whereas, of course, they opened up this massive...
Well, the road was already open, but they flipped on the toll switch in South Africa on the day that Mandela died.
And everyone's...
Apparently, the system is...
It's a license plate reader.
Right.
And the system is not all that secure.
And they tracked the beast...
Which is Obama's limo.
License plate 800002.
The first hour alone, he had an outstanding payment of 54 rand.
It's really cool to see.
You can go in, you can track and see where he drove, how much he owes for his tolls.
That's funny.
Yeah, they got some stuff going on.
I like that.
South Africa's got some cool...
We should pay attention to them more often.
Yeah, we'll see.
Just an idea.
In the Gitmo Nation East.
Alright, I've got a few clips.
So you're not hearing me?
Because I'll start saying something and then you'll just talk.
Oh, we may have a horrible, thanks to Comcast, a horrible lag.
But I'm hearing everything you say.
Well, I was going to say before you move on, a guy got arrested in Gitmo Nation East for tweeting hate speech about Mandela.
What?
Yeah, this is the new thing.
What hate speech did he tweet?
I'm going to tell you.
And who is it hurting?
Mandela's dead.
You're not allowed to do that.
Hate speech is no longer allowed in the United Kingdom.
Even if it's a dead person.
So you can't say bad things about Hitler.
Is that right?
Is that what you're telling me?
Why are you attacking me for the laws of the UK? I'm just asking.
I'm asking a question.
Yeah, you should not be allowed to.
I agree.
Did Hitler ever win a peace prize?
Well, here's a funny clip that I was sent.
Let me read you this.
This is actually quite amusing.
This is from 1939.
Headline, New York Times.
Hitler is greatest in Princeton poll.
Freshman, and apparently this is the second year in a row that the freshman of Princeton named Hitler...
The greatest living person in the annual poll conducted at the Daily Princetonian.
Hitler came in first, Einstein came in second, and Neville Chamberlain came in third.
Oh, that's funny.
Yeah.
Hitler was also Man of the Year in Time magazine.
Twice.
Yeah.
Right up there with the Pope!
They were pushing Hitler big time in the 30s, but the fact that this really, because the college students are always supposed to be the most savvy and all, they're all, you know, they're this and they're that, and they're idealists.
So their idealism at Princeton led them to pick Hitler as the greatest.
As the greatest man ever.
Yeah.
He's the greatest living person.
Somehow that part of history has been obfuscated.
I guess we're not supposed to uncover it.
No.
Unfortunately, the databases are getting loaded up with more and more stuff.
So here's the joke the guy cracked.
And for this joke that he posted on Twitter, he was arrested, held for eight hours, they confiscated his computer, and took DNA samples.
Ha ha ha ha ha.
Here it is.
My PC takes so long to shut down, I've decided to call it Nelson Mandela.
What?
Yeah.
How is that hate speech?
It's a funny joke.
Yeah.
They show up and then that's what you get arrested for.
No, this is bull crap.
This is not a true story.
Somebody made this up.
This is a hoax.
Let me see what it's in.
This is the Daily Mail.
Probably.
Let me see what the...
Yeah, you're right.
Daily Mail.
Yeah, it could be.
We'll check it out.
Well, if anything, at least it highlights the idiocy of the UK. I mean, there is some crazy stuff going on with the hate speech.
And I think he, okay, looks like a local counselor was already pissed.
So it was misused, I guess.
This guy may have been like a loudmouth troublemaker anyway.
That's what you do with troublemakers.
They step over that line and you go and check them out.
Yeah, you find some phony law and throw the book at them.
That's the problem with too many laws, and that's why I'm always wondering why the public was concerned that we have a do-nothing Congress.
I work for the government.
I'm telling you, a do-nothing Congress is the way to go.
Otherwise, you end up with laws like that stupid hate speech law.
Yeah.
All right.
Okay, so here's the further bad news for you.
Oh.
I don't have a spreadsheet program on this particular laptop.
Okay.
This means I have to double duty?
For the first time, you're going to have to double duty, and now we can see how your name reading goes.
Well, but hold on.
When it says JCD has note, will you have these?
No, the note is a handwritten note.
Well, before we get into that, I've had a back and forth with our gay crusader producer Brian.
Now, did you see his white paper that he sent?
I forwarded you a copy.
I had missed that in the hustle and bustle of my day-to-day life.
I missed the white paper.
Okay, so it's not done and it kind of sent it in for review and I sent back my comments.
You didn't respond, so I'm like, I don't know.
I didn't even copy you on the reply.
I'm like, whatever.
Well, you can tell me now.
Well, what he needs is...
It's very detailed.
But it's also...
He's written it a little...
And by the way, for those of you who don't know what this is about, this is about the bogative reporting on the Russian anti-gay law.
If you're gay, you get arrested.
All of this is not true.
And we looked at the laws.
We got translations.
And then he picked this up, and he was astounded.
And he's gay.
That everyone in the gay community refuses to order Stolignaya, vodka, and they're all propagating this bullcrap.
So he actually traced it back to where it first came in the mainstream media.
He went off a little bit on a tangent about how America is actually much less gay-friendly than Russia.
Right.
Which I thought was a problem in his white paper.
And I said, you know, man, you got to have the executive summary that the morons at the news can read and republish.
You got to give them the line.
And what's the conclusion?
Is the conclusion that the Russian law is really only there to soak the American entertainment industry at $30,000 per violation?
So anyway, so he's working on that.
But as this is all taking place, we had something very interesting happen.
For those of you who don't know, India, the Supreme Court in India said, hey, you know, gays are bad news!
This, by the way, is the State Department with Jen Psaki.
I just want to say, the Supreme Court of India, and I have not read the law, so I'm just going to think that there's probably something to this, has now criminalized homosexuality.
India.
Mm-hmm.
Secretary Kerry issued a statement on Human Rights Day and in which he mentioned LGBT.
So what is the reaction that, and especially because the Indian Foreign Secretary is in town.
Well, we, of course, are aware of the Supreme Court decision.
The United States places great importance on the protection of human rights and fundamental freedoms of all people.
And as you saw and as you referenced in the Secretary's statement yesterday, that includes lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender persons around the world.
Hello, how about heteroflexibles?
We oppose any action that criminalizes consensual same-sex conduct between adults, LGBT rights or human rights.
That's something you've heard earlier.
Secretary Kerry say, I believe Secretary Clinton say before him.
So she's struggling a little bit.
And of course, who's up there in front?
Our buddy Matt.
Now, unfortunately, Matt doesn't pull the Russia card, but he comes close.
And we call on all governments to advance equality for LGBT individuals around the world.
I know you asked me about the visit of the foreign secretary.
I'm happy to give a readout of that if that's helpful as well.
The only problem with that is that you're threatening sanctions on Ukraine or saying that they're a possibility because they're violating people's human rights and not listening to the people.
And yet, here with India, it's not even clear whether this has come up, will come up, or will ever come up with the Indian government.
And in fact, the readout that you gave of the meetings yesterday, everything with India is full speed ahead and more intense.
This case, as I understand it, the Supreme Court case was this today.
Those meetings were yesterday.
I think I expressed pretty clearly our opposition to this in terms of what steps would be taken by a government on a Supreme Court case.
That's not something I would have a comment on.
Yeah, blah-de-blah-de-blah-de-blah.
I'm a little disappointed that Matt didn't just say, oh, how about the Russian games?
How about the...
The Russians, everyone, even the lie is gay propaganda.
That's not even the truth, but at least it's about propaganda.
The Supreme Court of India has outlawed gay sex.
It's illegal.
Well, how come people aren't up in arms about that?
Exactly.
I think we should ban all curry.
Well, that would mean you.
Wait a minute.
Yeah.
So whenever someone says, we should ban the Olympic Games, the Russians, crazy, hate the gays, yeah, how about India?
Cheap bastards.
Yeah, there you have it.
And then on Ukraine, which, yes, it is Ukraine, not the Ukraine, which I tend to say incorrectly.
Victoria Nuland was in Ukraine handing out sandwiches to the protesters.
What was that all about?
Because this is clearly a U.S.-instigated operation.
Why else is Victoria Nuland, and now an assistant secretary of state, on the ground with the protesters handing out sandwiches?
Are you kidding me?
How obvious do you have to make it?
Pay no attention to me!
What are they thinking?
Well, so I tried to fit this into our model, obviously.
And...
Wow.
By the way, we should mention that all hell is breaking loose there.
Yes.
Well, we have a note from our Ukrainian producer.
And she's...
Well, actually, I should probably read that because...
Where is it here?
There's a lot to that.
This is Mila Bogushdand, producer of episode 572.
I arrived from Kiev December 3rd.
I saw how the excitement started in Ukraine and continued to monitor the situation.
Since around these events in Ukraine there are now many disputes and false information, I decided to write you a letter from the viewpoint of a Ukrainian person who has family and business in Kiev.
Thank you.
That makes sense.
She gives us a little legend.
Government equals the president of Ukraine.
The Eagles is similar to an American SWAT team.
And the opposition is all parties opposing the president.
And here's her rundown.
November 21st, the Cabinet of Ministers of Ukraine stopped the process of preparing for European integration.
Spontaneous street protests arose in defense of European integration.
An initiative in social networks played a more significant role in organizing demonstrations than the opposition did.
The protests called Euromaiden, which is from the Ukrainian word maiden, which means the area for gathering of people, I guess that's the protest, So in Kiev, a lot of buses arrived with hired provocateurs who created an alternative campus on the other side of the Independence Square in downtown Kiev.
So the two cancer protesters were, one, the students, and then the other one, the provocateurs, who were drinking, singing songs, disturbing the public.
This is how it's done, you see.
The manifestation gradually waned, people started to leave, but suddenly on the night of the 30th, the student camps, when people started to leave, the Eagles, the SWAT team, the special police troops, appeared, and they started to abuse the students, even though they weren't doing anything.
So I think what's happening, John, is we have...
The U.S. clearly wants Ukraine to integrate with Europe and not lean back towards Russia.
And if I try to fit it into our model, besides the obvious gas, a couple of interesting things popped up as I start to look at the rail.
Okay.
Okay.
It looks like the trans-Eurasian rail platform is planned.
This is the Chinese-Russian cooperative version.
It's planned to run through Ukraine.
Okay.
And the Ukraine just recently received, on December 5th, an $8 billion investment from China.
So the thing is a clusterfuck.
Wow!
You've got the Chiners trying to...
I don't exactly know what the investment was for.
It doesn't say in this Reuters article.
No, I'm sorry.
It's for trade issues such as customs clearance, Ukrainian chocolate, that's a red herring, meat, dairy products, and railways!
So if we slip it into our model, the Trans-Eurasian Railway, I guess the Chinese said, look, we'll put the money in for the actual track.
You guys make sure they don't join the EU. And our response is to send Victoria Nuland with a sandwich.
Yeah, we're great.
I think that was a mistake.
What, the sandwich?
Victoria Nuland, she shouldn't have been anywhere near the place.
Yeah, of course not.
Why don't you just give it away?
I mean, how dumb.
Well, of course, I don't think anyone's picked up on this because they don't use this model that we have for analysis.
What's the point?
Yeah.
I know.
And then we have...
I mean, it all fits in.
You know, I've never been to the Ukraine.
I want to go.
Can I go?
I can give sandwiches away.
It'll look like I'm being generous.
The State Department will look good.
Now check this out.
Russia and North Korea opened a cross-border freight railway, as it says here from Reuters, intended to speed cargo shipments between Asia and Europe.
And this is the 33-mile line...
This doesn't get any crazier than that.
We'll transport to markets right through North Korea.
So it starts to all come into play.
And as much as we've looked at pipelines and stuff, this railway thing is getting real.
Yeah, I like it.
It's a good transition because the pipeline thing, I think we've worn it out.
Yeah, we played it out.
In the show notes, one of our producers was at the demilitarized zone between, I guess, in 2007, mind you, when he was with the military.
So this is the very northern part of South Korea, the southern part of North Korea, obviously.
And he took a picture of, let me see if I have it here.
He took a picture of, you know, one of those, in the train station, one of those big signs, you know, like of the rail network.
And I put this in the show notes, and it's called the Trans-Eurasian Railway Network.
And when you see this thing, I mean, it's unbelievable.
It goes all the way to Barcelona.
Hmm.
As a part of Co-Rail.
So there's two routes.
You've got the southern one, which is just marked as the TCR, and that goes through China and then eventually goes into Kazakhstan, then goes up north, and that's where it connects with the Russian rail.
The Russians are taking over once it hits Turkey.
But then the Russians have their own railway, and it all connects there in Turkey.
It's going to be fascinating to watch.
But then to see this thing go through Poland, through Denmark, and then it goes down through France.
Of course, the French rail is already in place, the tracks, the high speed.
And then, boom, it goes down to the east coast of Spain.
I mean, it's just immense.
So it's obvious that the Ukrainian part is very important.
And I don't think Kerry has it in him.
He may talk a big game, and he may like what he's doing.
He doesn't have that, what Hillary has.
I think he's a dummy.
Yeah, he doesn't have that, what Hillary has, you know, where you're just frightened.
No, she's, yeah, she's the perfect person to run our empire.
No, she's uniquely qualified to run our empire.
She's uniquely qualified to run our empire.
Exactly.
Trying to get the hang of that one.
Yeah, no, it'll work out.
So that's in the Trans-Eurasian Network folder in the show notes.
For 372.nashownotes.com.
And, of course, I'd be very happy to thank you for your courage, John C. Dvorak, and say in the morning.
Well, and in the morning to you, Adam Curry.
In the morning to all the ships that see boots on the ground, feet in the air, subs in the water, and all the dames and knights out there.
Yes.
Including our executive producers and associate executive producers.
Adam, who are they?
First, let me thank all of our artists for helping us out.
We had a nice helping, a nice slathering of art at artgenerator.com.
And thank you to Sir Effigy.
For giving us a great piece.
It was the little China lady running in front of the train and the drones are behind the Chinese train.
It was a nice piece.
Yeah, it was very amusing.
Yeah.
So we highly appreciate that.
And oh, by the way, it is sad to learn, I guess the new podcast app, the Apple podcast app, doesn't even show the artwork.
So you have to download it and play it.
It's terrible.
Yeah, I mean, what a waste.
We always put it in the show notes, of course, in multiple places, but it's sad because it's so cool when you're playing the show to look at the new artwork.
Anyway, that's a goner.
Yeah.
Yes, well, we have a couple of executive producers and associate executive producers, starting off with $400, Paul Kraut.
I do not have a note for Paul.
Do you have anything?
Paul is from New York.
It's not going to be possible if I don't have my gear to find a note sent to me.
Okay.
So we'll just say, Paul, if you have a note, send it again.
We'll read it on Sunday.
I can take a real quick look, just see.
Hold on a second.
I don't recall anything from Paul.
Now, remember, if you send it to everybody, then someone will have it eventually.
Let me see.
Kraut.
I might get lucky.
Let me see.
Send a lot of stuff to...
It's chilling.
I have it.
Gentlemen.
Oh, okay.
Never mind.
We originally planned on producing the Sunday after Thanksgiving, but unfortunately things got away from us, so we decided December for sure.
However, when we heard Adam do the, He's a constitutional lawyer!
On Sunday's show, we knew it was time to drop everything and donate.
Ah, yes.
On a side note, my brother had his driver's license renewed in Colorado and they asked him for his fingerprints.
What the fuck kind of bullshit police state traffic tactic is that?
What?
Yeah.
He says, I guess anyone who drives a car in Colorado is now a criminal.
I don't think we had to do that in Texas.
I don't know of any state that does that.
Well, Colorado.
Anyway, Colorado is somewhat of a fascistic operation.
I hate Colorado.
It's radioactive, which is bothersome.
Yeah, it's annoying.
If you live in Colorado, you're going to get radiation poisoning at some point.
It's a horrible place.
But now this, and then when they built that Denver airport, that to me was the scam.
Yeah, well, we know about that.
And here's the great thing about the Denver airport, one of the scammiest parts of it, besides the fact it's the worst place to put an airport, it's got all kinds of crosswinds, it's a mess.
They have a...
You have to pay for parking to get to the...
to park to drop somebody off.
You have to...
There's like a toll you give...
But it's free if you can get in and get out with something like 15 minutes.
They move the gate to buy the ticket to park...
Out somewhere near the border of Denver City, you buy your ticket to park, you drive for 10 miles to get to the airport to park, and then come back.
You can't make it within the 15 minutes, so you still have to pay.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's a scam.
And then there's that whole looking like a swastika thing.
Oh, yeah.
And all the crazy art.
And the underground base and all that stuff.
That's just minor.
Yeah.
They're taking fingerprints.
Anyway, the Brothers Kraut appreciates everything you do.
Let's keep hitting people in the mouth and educating slaves everywhere.
We are $8 short of a knighthood, so next time it's going to be one.
Cheers!
The Brothers Kraut, 89th and Bluegrass.
And we highly appreciate that.
They're our own little Koch brothers.
We just call them the Krauts.
I'm very happy with that.
So thank you so much for your executive producership.
Then we have James...
Where are those cheap bastard Koch brothers for our show, by the way?
James Pyers from Escondido, California.
John Adam, thank you for your courage.
Please accept my donation of $333.33 plus.01 to complete my knighthood.
And we'll gladly drop that penny in there.
I would like to be knighted as Sir Wire of the Hidden Jewel, Escondido.
Is it the hidden jewel?
I don't know.
Escondido?
I saw that note myself, and I don't know that Escondido means the hidden jewel.
There we go.
I would have completed my knighthood earlier, but I have a beef with Adam's ongoing Santa Clausification of John.
Yeah, I have a beef with that, too.
What are you talking about?
Uh-huh.
Yeah, yeah, play dumb.
Like he's an old friendly man with a sack full of presents?
I've never accused you of that.
Though John does sort of have pointy ears and is often bearing a bag of electronic gifts, this sort of thing is clearly not called for.
Otherwise, I will continue to propagate the formula and continue to provide value for value in the holiday spiritification.
Clearly you have created the best podcast in the universification.
Please dole out some karma to EJ, Ed, and Sinclair.
And though you unceremoniously annulled the Make It Rain jingle, I am kindly requesting one last time for Chris.
He's a dude.
And mostly because John is so hilarious and spot on.
Both of you keep doing what you do.
Make the insane saying.
Kindest regards.
Merry Christmas.
Happy New Year to both of you and your families.
Sir Wire of the Hidden Jewel.
And we will most definitely...
What was I going to do?
Chris the dude.
Are you going to do the make it rain?
I'm going to.
Here's the new policy.
Yeah.
The new policy is on Sunday...
I will do them all consolidated on Sunday.
I'll do Chris the Dude and put him on stage.
And I'll have the whole thing set up.
So whatever comes in today for this gimmick will be done this coming Sunday.
And people who donate for the Sunday show, that will be added.
So it'll be a long segment.
It'll be at the club.
Superstorm.
We'll be at the club.
Everyone can join us at the club for the Make It Rain.
Chris, the dude, will be made to reign.
And I do want to point out that John is doing this on his son's wedding day.
You're working on your son's...
Aren't you supposed to be holding his hand and, like, telling him to leave now while he's ahead?
Aren't you supposed to be doing that fatherly kind of stuff?
Alright, well, here's the karma for James, as requested.
You've got karma.
Sir Wire of the Hidden Jewel shall be knighted later on.
John Cox comes in as an associate executive producer from Adkins, Texas.
$250.
Thank you for all you do.
I just wish I could give more.
And for those who don't give, you're a pud knocker.
Yeah, thanks.
Barron Sir Dr.
Sharkey to a slew of twos from Jackson, Tennessee.
Sid and Nancy, I'm honored you have chosen my birthday, 1212, to do one of what surely will go down in history as the best podcast in the universe.
I only wish I could do a selfie at Mandela's funeral to commemorate the occasion more solemnly, like our illustrious president.
Please send me some birthday shut-up slave mac and cheese Adam's Choice karma.
Also, some general karma to my brother and sister, who both, yet separately in the process of gestating future human resources, know they aren't married.
They are married to different people, not to each other.
Since my donation amounts to double Make It Rain, I'd like you to call to the stage either of the following pairs of girls, either Mimi and Miss Mickey or Hillary Clinton and Angela Merkel.
I think Hillary and Angela would be better.
We can do a funnier bit.
We're putting it on the list for Sunday.
Yeah.
Whichever combo you think will make my birthday sexier.
Yeah, your birthday's going to be great.
With Hillary and Angela.
I think they can do a lesbian thing together.
Don't you think they can do a girl-on-girl show?
Under the lesbian stage.
It's the girl-on-girl.
The girl-on-girl act.
Alright, let me just...
That's bad.
Let me...
You wanted some...
What do you want here?
Karma and little girl, shut up, slave.
Okay, we can do that.
You've got karma.
Shut up, slaves!
You slaves can get used to mac and cheese.
Mac and cheese.
Mac and cheese.
That's for Baron Sir Dr.
Sharkey.
I'll be on the list as well, of course, for the birthday.
Kyle Kinzel from Green Bay, Wisconsin, 20202.
JCD has note.
And this would be a written note, I presume.
Yeah, you know, this is hilarious because I put the note...
I went over to the thing where you're...
There it is.
You don't have to do much, you know?
It's not like it's like...
No, no, I've got paper everywhere and I have to...
Is this a new note?
Next week...
Kyle's in Green Bay, Wisconsin.
Growing Up Dvorak.
John...
I'm telling you, Kardashians.
John and Adam.
And this is handwritten.
It's kind of half script and half whatever.
This donation should put me over the limit.
Not the limit.
It's over the top.
For knighthood, accounting, so-and-so.
Could I please get a one-time offering of cannabis and Cabernet for being seated at the round table?
Yeah.
Put that on the list and throw it.
Cannabis and Cabernet.
Yeah.
A train's good, plane's bad karma would be great for all the flying I'll be doing.
Okay.
Keep up the fantastic work.
That's it.
All aboard, trains good, planes bad.
You've got karma.
There you go.
He does mention that he's been loving the recent shows the most.
Thank you.
That's nice.
Well, we're working hard.
So we got one guy who wrote us in.
He wrote in a note.
He says, I don't see why it was 571 was so hot.
It seemed disorganized.
Hey, wait a minute.
I know that guy.
It sucks!
Are you still there?
Wow.
Did I lose you?
No.
You got real soft all of a sudden.
Oh, that's probably it.
Let me change this Skype.
Because I was yelling.
Yeah.
I hate it when you go flaccid.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So does Mickey.
Heyo.
Heyo.
I have the box checked.
Okay.
No, it's not checked, so I can yell.
Okay, good.
Heyo.
Heyo.
All right.
And if 570 had anything else, or was that it?
571.
Sucked.
Okay.
It happens.
Let's see.
Michael Hager from St.
Louis, Missouri.
Best podcast in the universe, and yet it's so much more, he says.
And finally, Sir Sean Connolly, Naperville, Illinois.
I'd like to thank you both for your courage.
If I can get a Hillary, we came.
He died.
Don't draft combo.
It would be appreciated, says Sir Sean.
And, of course, the problem when I'm reading the notes is that I... Can't be searching for stuff at the same time.
And John's not very helpful.
Here we go.
I can't search for it.
I mean, that is the land of unconfirmed.
We came, we saw, he died.
Yeah, that's the attitude she's going to have as president.
Yeah, that's exactly, yeah, that's the attitude.
And that's it for our executive producers, associate executive producers.
These are actual credits.
We, of course, really appreciate the familiar names, but also the newer names coming in.
And Paul, we got Paul, right?
The Kraut brothers.
We got all that.
We got everyone's note.
We've done everything.
We'll have a thank you segment for everyone $50 and over, including the Make It Rains, which will be duly noted for a big club session.
On Sunday, and of course, you were all invited.
From the PR files, I just wanted to highlight the No Agenda Player one more time.
That's a project that started a few weeks ago, and it's still ongoing.
It's really, really good.
Noagendaplayer.com.
Where, so for instance, it has 572, but I'm going to go to 571, and let's just see, we'll talk about, it has all the topics here.
I'm going to give you the topics, and you tell me when to stop.
Martin Bashir, forced to quit MSNBC, Duncan Hunter on C-SPAN, Dinner with the Obots, Better Than Cash, Dutch Tulip Mania, Bad News for Bitcoin, Sandy Hook 911 Call, Six Week Cycle, say stop whenever you want, Dianne Feinstein, Mike Rogers...
I'm listening to this list of fantastic topics and wondering what that guy was complaining about.
Monetization of Edward Snowden and...
Dianne Feinstein.
Dianne Feinstein.
I click on the link for Dianne Feinstein.
It goes straight into the show, into the player, and...
Fabulous.
Wait a minute.
It's at the right spot.
It's not playing.
Or maybe I'm not hearing it.
Am I... Wow.
It worked so well earlier.
Oh, press the space bar.
Oh, okay.
Space bar?
And there you have it.
Fantastic.
Please go check that out.
Can't beat it.
What happened?
This is the problem.
In the lab, it worked great.
What's cool is it now also has direct links to the spot.
You can tweet, you can share on Facebook, all this stuff.
It could also just be my browser freaking out.
I don't know.
Ah, crap.
Sorry about that.
It works really well.
It is a good product.
It's very possible that my setup is screwed somehow.
So that's the only PR mention I have, and we would love for you to help us out for our Sunday show.
Remember, big make it rain in the club.
So come on by, y'all!
And of course, we always highly appreciate those of you going out to propagate our formula.
Our formula is this.
We go out...
We hit people in the mouth.
New.
World. Order.
Don't drop us.
Shut up, slave!
Shut up, slave!
Ah, yes!
A lot of good stuff out there.
I have a clip I want to play.
Okay.
Because this will get us in the right mood.
And I think this summarizes almost everything we really want to talk about today.
All right.
Which is the Jesse Jackson clip.
This is Jesse Jackson telling it like it is.
He spoke gracefully.
He's about to govern the nation.
You can't govern a nation now if you're going to engage in terror and going to engage in pollution.
He was on the step now about to govern.
I was there sitting and it was just such a joy to hear and to watch people respond.
Because many of whites were relieved of their fears.
Many of blacks had a sense of celebration.
But all had reason to feel that they were winners.
He's talking about Mandela?
I don't know.
I have no clue.
It's hard.
I heard blacks and whites in the celebration.
How long has this man been in this country that he hasn't learned English?
He's American.
What?
Jesse Jackson's an American.
He thought he was from...
Some foreign country or maybe the planet Neptune.
I've never understood a word he says.
This is what I'm always telling Mickey.
She gets frustrated about her English.
Your English is better than 99% of Americans who speak it.
You just played the Jesse Jackson clip.
Yeah.
It's unbelievable.
Hey, you're in aviation.
Yes.
I want you to kind of explain this situation to me since I'm just doing a couple light clips right here.
I want you to play the man locked in the plane and tell me what you think.
Okay.
A commuter airline can't explain how a man got left on an empty, locked up plane during a layover in Houston.
Here he is.
Tom Wagner says he took a nap on an express jet flight from Louisiana to California and woke up all alone in the plane's dark cabin Friday night.
He says at first he thought he was dreaming.
He was sitting toward the back of the plane in a window seat.
I called my girlfriend, and she thought I was crazy.
I said, Debbie, I'm locked on a plane.
She said, Tommy, stop.
I said, I'm telling you, too, you better call somebody and get me off this plane.
Well, his girlfriend called the airline, and workers opened up the plane.
About a half hour later, Express Jet officials say flight attendants had done a walkthrough.
They gave Wagner a $250 voucher, along with a motel room and an apology, and they say they're investigating how this happened.
Well, he's lucky it wasn't much longer than half an hour.
All right.
What kind of tag was that?
I don't know.
Hey, thanks for that non-sequitur, you dit.
This can happen.
That has nothing to do with aviation.
I think it goes like this, having worked for a living.
Yeah.
Hey, what about this guy sleeping in the back?
You want to wake him up?
Fuck him.
Let's lock him in the plane.
See what happens.
This will be great.
I think it's worse.
Well, what happens if we...
Don't worry about it.
Nothing bad's going to happen.
And so they locked him in the plane.
The guy's probably snoring.
They don't really check.
It all depends what airline, but there's a lot of non-checking.
People are tired.
You fly four or five legs on these airplanes.
You finally get back to base.
Good night, everybody.
Because you don't have to check it because you don't have a new crew or new passengers coming on.
Screw it.
If anything's there, the cleaning crew will get it.
I think sometimes they do a walkthrough to see if anyone left anything of any value.
Yeah, so they can take it.
Of course.
Of course.
Aviation is a hard, hard business.
We should have a lot more appreciation for the men and women in aviation around the world, but in the United States in general.
It keeps our country moving.
And it's a shit job.
You get shit money.
And everyone's annoying.
Pretty much everyone's annoying.
Oh, the public, yeah.
And you've got to stand there and do that stupid seatbelt thing because of regulations.
One time I was sitting next to some guy...
Who was a first-time flyer.
Some kid.
He was like 17 or something.
And he was so excited.
He just actually volunteered the information.
He was a first-time flyer.
So he spent the entire flight buzzing the stewardess.
The call button.
Yeah, the call button.
Bing, bing.
They finally told him to stop.
Did they come over and said, hello, 1980 wants your air service back?
This is not happening.
I remember when I was flying, first of all, we could smoke in the back of the plane.
Those days.
And I have to say, now that I think about it, that's ludicrous that we did that.
I agree.
Little shitty ashtrays on your armrest.
And here's what always would happen, like, ah, okay, now we can smoke in the back of the plane.
And then it'd be, oh, time to take off, and you'd want to put your cigarette out, and so I want to put gum in there.
And the gum would start burning, and it would get all gooey from the smoke.
Bad news, bad news.
You could press your attendant call button, I think.
Flight attendant call button.
And then they would show up and say, oh, can I have some water, please?
Sure, darling, I'll be right up.
No more.
You push that button more than twice and they're going to take some gaffer's tape and glue you to the seat.
I think we need to discuss the snow job a little bit.
I see you have a clip as well.
I think yours may be more interesting.
Tech firms now bitch about snooping?
I pretty much have the same clip, I guess.
It's a pretty short clip.
It's just a summary.
Eight of the world's leading technology firms, including Google, Apple, and Twitter, have formed an alliance calling for changes to U.S. government surveillance.
In the letter to Washington, the companies argue that current surveillance practice undermines the freedom of the people.
It follows recent leaks about the extent of government snooping.
Yeah, let me play my clip.
And some of America's top tech companies, they are now urging the U.S. government to curtail its spying program.
Which, by the way, is not true.
If you've read the letter, they're not urging to curtail the spy program.
In fact, this guy's going to read a piece of the letter, which is key.
And who decided it's tech?
This is getting on my nerves.
This word tech.
You know what I mean, John?
Does that bother you at all?
It doesn't bother me, but there was a big stink recently, and I think it showed up in Gawker, too, where somebody said, I don't like being called tech.
We should be called nerds or geeks or makers.
Or coders.
Makers.
No, it's just the ubiquitous...
He said makers.
It's the ubiquitous tech.
I don't know.
It doesn't work for me anymore.
It doesn't bother me.
Obama and Congress saying there's an urgent need to curtail the spying, which the companies say is actually hurting their bottom line.
Yeah, a lot of people say those companies collect a lot of information on you, but they say the government's doing worse.
The National Security Agency's massive snooping program, of course, came to light when documents leaked by that man there, the former NSA contractor, Edward Snowden, revealed the interactions between tech companies and the NSA. And let's just take this back for a second, because nothing was really revealed.
Snowden certainly didn't reveal anything.
Glenn Greenwald published a couple slides from a deck...
With no real verification, and we still are trying to figure out what a lot of it means, like GFE, does that really mean government furnished equipment or not?
Because that's what this is about specifically.
But we don't really know that.
Okay.
The NSA can poke in the back door.
Oh, poke in the back door?
Well, Michael, that's what's worrying executives of some of the biggest tech companies in the United States.
Facebook, Apple, Twitter, Google, and Microsoft.
They're all asking the government to help pull back some of the NSA surveillance programs.
The challenge for these companies is that they are required by law to help the NSA do surveillance.
Now, what Edward Snowden has exposed over the last few months are several programs that allow the NSA to...
Again, I just have to say, Edward Snowden has not exposed everything.
I think it's important...
To continue to remind people how this works, and as we go through this segment, we'll get back to that, but Edward Snowden did not reveal to the world.
It was newspapers.
...vast amounts of private information.
The NSA says it is to prevent terrorism, but often that data is being collected on people who don't have any connection to terrorism.
And that's the reason why you see this company asking the government to change the law, so the companies can in fact protect their customers' privacy.
Now, here's what they had to say in their letter that they sent out today.
The balance in many countries has tipped too far in favor of the state and away from the rights of the individual, rights that are enshrined in our Constitution.
This undermines the freedoms we all cherish.
It's time for change.
Now, there's something, there's a little, little gotcha in this letter.
Which I will read again.
Dear Mr.
President, members of CARD, this is from reformgovernmentsurveillance.com.
Now, if you can actually spell reformgovernmentsurveillance.com, then you win a prize.
Who came up with this for these guys?
Reformgovernmentsurveillance.com?
That's the best they could do?
Yes.
That's the Global Government Surveillance Reform Coalition.
Which includes America Online, Apple, Facebook, Google, LinkedIn, Microsoft, Twitter, and Yahoo.
Also known as tech.
And here's the level.
Here's the letter.
Here's your word again.
We understand that governments, plural, have a duty to protect their citizens.
But this summer's revelations highlighted the urgent need to reform government surveillance practices worldwide.
The balance in many countries has tipped too far in favor of the state and away from the rights of the individual.
You mean like every place?
I think these guys are talking about...
They're not even talking about America.
They're worried about China and places where they can go make money.
If you think these companies give a rat's ass about you, they're...
In fact, here it is.
For our part, we are focused on keeping users' data secure.
I've always had taken issue with being called a user.
I've never liked that.
I'm a customer.
I'm a paying customer of many of these companies.
I don't like being called a user.
Again, maybe that's just me and maybe I'm just being overly sensitive.
So they're pretending that they...
I can see where you think it's demeaning.
It is demeaning.
I'm not a user.
It's the user, Curry.
Yeah.
I mean, it's like I'm not paying for it some way.
I am.
I pay Apple.
I actually pay Microsoft.
I don't pay Twitter.
Maybe I don't.
Screw them.
I don't use half of these services.
So there's a lot of things that happen simultaneously while the kings of Silicon Valley make their plea, which is really for their own pocketbook.
I think they're just a little freaked out that, oh, don't let these people figure out that they don't really need us.
Oh, my gosh.
The only company in this whole line that we need is maybe Apple for some hardware.
We don't need Microsoft.
We don't need AOL or Facebook or Google.
The Google search is still kind of handy, but we'll get past that eventually.
We don't need Yahoo.
We don't really need all these companies.
You don't need it.
So the big revelation, as this went hand in hand, is reported as if the NSA is on your Xbox Live playing with you as we speak.
Did you notice how this reporting was skewed, John?
With the headlines?
Yeah.
And I went to go see the two pages that were published by the New York Post.
And this is complete and utter crap.
If these guys had written this and they worked for the Curry-Dvorak Consulting Company, we would have fired them.
All it is is a pitch.
To go and try and infiltrate some gaming networks.
They're not even saying they're doing it in these two documents that were published.
Did you see the two pages that were published?
No, I didn't.
It's so bad.
And this is top secret.
This is for the five eyes.
USA, Australia, Scandinavia, Great Britain, New Zealand.
Topic, exploiting terrorist use of games in virtual environments.
And then it says, we know that terrorists use many feature-rich internet communications for operational purposes.
And it goes in this whole...
So essentially what they're saying is, hey, you know, maybe these guys use the VoIP...
Maybe terrorists use the VoIP features of online games to communicate with each other.
And then they come up with the genius idea to go hunt around on Xbox Live, Second Life.
Like, yeah.
What is the NSA sitting on a big sex ball with a huge penis and wings?
I mean, please...
World of Warcraft.
I think it's these guys are just...
I think there's a...
If I was...
What would you be doing?
There's nothing going on terrorism-wise in the U.S. It's just bullcrap.
And everybody knows it's just bullcrap.
It's just to keep the public kind of intimidated.
So you're one of the...
I know I have an idea, boss.
I think...
I'll bet you that the terrorists could be...
Well, I don't think they'd be using Second Life.
Do you, Bill...
Well, it's a possibility.
Well, you can't.
Better to be safe than sorry.
Okay, Jim, you go in there and you create an account and roam around.
This will be your job for the next year.
Hey, and you got to blend in with everybody.
Here, dress up like a chick.
So, I mean, this is just a way...
You've got nothing better to do than Kill Time.
Now they're playing World of Warcraft.
But the funny thing is, the actual online game that we know the intelligence services use themselves is EVE, and that's not on the list.
It's not even mentioned in these two pages.
Remember the guy who got killed in Benghazi?
He was playing EVE. Yeah.
The spooks are on it all the time themselves, but here's what galled me.
As a part of this fabulous analysis, which doesn't say they're doing it, but says, oh, you know, we should really, all avenues should be taken to develop PES and CNA exploits as GVEs are found on target computers.
But this is not, they're not doing it, as the headlines scream.
This is a recommendation.
And as a part of this recommendation, these games offer realistic weapons training.
What weapon to use against what target, what ranges can be achieved, even aiming and firing?
Military operations and tactics, photorealistic land navigation and terrain familiarization and leadership skills.
While complete military training is best achieved in person, perfection is not always required to accomplish the mission.
Some of the 9-11 pilots had never flown a real plane.
They had only trained using Microsoft Flight Simulator.
Really?
I can't.
That galls me.
What can I say?
Yeah.
Well, what you can say is that I think they've reached the bottom of the barrel.
This was from the Washington Post, and whatever Glenn Greenwald gave them, they gave them crap because they're really scraping at the insides now.
They're now publishing things, making it seem like it's already happening, but when you really, really read it, it's dumb.
This is like second year, maybe first year rookie analysis, and it's just a recommendation.
Yeah, duh.
I'm amazed to be able to write two pages full of this crap.
Yeah, we should go watch out for terrorists on online games.
Duh.
Yeah, sure.
That's a good idea.
Yeah, well, you know, they're blowing stuff up left and right, Adam.
Something has to be done.
Exactly.
Then we have a feud going on, which really I love this, between Siebel Edmonds, Glenn Griewald, and Pierre Omnicar.
And it's a good one.
Now we know who Siebel Edmonds is.
You remember her name?
Yeah, I do remember her.
I don't know about this feud, though.
Farsi translator, whistleblower.
Oh, right, right, right, right.
And they threw her in jail, really shut her up with gag orders, and she now does analysis.
Under Boiling Frogs Post.
She does a podcast as well and some stuff.
And she doesn't really have all that much, but I like what she's doing, and she's poking these guys in the eye.
She wrote this article, U.S. Government, an implicated billionaire, fortune-seeking journalist, and a public in the dark.
It's a great title.
You have to read this.
So what she's saying is the billionaire owner of PayPal Corporation has entered into a $250 million business partnership with two journalists, Glenn Greenwald and Laura Poitras, a journalist duo who possessed the entire cache of evidence provided by Edward Snowden despite earlier pledges by the journalists in question.
Only 1% of Snowden's documents have been released.
She's got sources to all of this.
And what she's saying is that PayPal is in cahoots with the NSA. And she has documentation and quotes to back it up.
And...
Thus, you'd have Omadar co-opting Greenwald.
Correct.
Yeah.
Duh.
Yeah.
Duh.
But she did it.
And again, it's like this lovely pastime to just watch these guys try and combat the incoming fire.
And they do it completely wrong.
And now they're resorting to calling her names and calling her an idiot.
Oh, please!
They're doing it all wrong.
I predict this venture will never get off the ground.
They're never going to open.
It will not happen.
It's too hot of a potato.
Yeah, I can put that in a red book.
I wouldn't disagree with the theory that it's just smoke and mirrors never going to happen.
For one thing, there's nobody there that does.
Who amongst this group?
Jay Rosen, Glenn Green, any of them.
There's not an Andrew Sullivan in the group that even knows how to blog.
No.
Let alone open a website.
I mean, yeah, Omidar knows about the, you know, he had engineers design the PayPal website, but there's no content management guru in this group, is there?
Not that I know of, no.
Well, we'll see what happens, but I think this, and we looked at, I think right after the show the other day, we looked at Pierre Omidar, who was responding to Pando Daily, Guys, you've got to be above all this if you're serious about it.
They got into a pissing contest with a car character back and forth and back and forth on Twitter.
Like, why are you doing this to yourself?
You're just making yourself miserable.
This is dumb.
It's almost unbelievable.
We'll see.
We'll see what else.
Yeah, and now Greenwald has...
He sold another article to the Swedes.
I wonder what they charge.
It's probably a grand.
It's probably not as much as you think, but more than you'd expect.
Or the other way around.
I think the NRC that Greenwald did that piece for, which was...
It wasn't a great revelation.
It was like, oh, the NSA may not have stopped spying after 1948.
And it was all in English, so they didn't even pay for a translator.
I think what I understood from people in the Netherlands is that they paid them $1,500.
But that sounds about right, I think.
$1,500 for a small country.
But in Sweden, I don't know.
And there's also now an hour-long interview kind of documentary about Glenn, of course.
Yeah, well, he's doing okay for himself publicity-wise.
Yeah.
But in terms of effectiveness, I'm not seeing it.
No, I agree.
All right, well, let me go back to my list here and see if there's anything really interesting going on.
There was an incident in the San Francisco Bay Area about rents.
Is this the faker guy that was screaming at you?
Yeah, some guy, some phony, some actor.
And they got all over the net.
Look at this, these Google douchebags.
How high they will go.
Think you pay a lot for your apartment?
Meet Raymond Wang.
I live in 150 square feet of space for $700.
Wow.
A Harvard study shows 35% of Americans are now renters, the highest in a decade.
Jack Gonzalez moved to San Francisco last year and is still suffering rent sticker shock.
But it's San Francisco and you have to be here.
What's worse, the study shows 31% are paying at least half their income in rent, considered a heavy financial burden.
Only half?
Doing well?
What is that all about?
I'm paying more than half of my income for my rent.
Are you?
Yeah!
Are you kidding me?
Well, yeah, but we work from home.
We need studio space.
What else am I going to do?
Well, in your case, I don't know.
Make more money.
Mickey says, what should we do?
I said, make more money.
That's always my idea.
That would work.
Let's try and make some more money.
Okay.
Well, you'd be spending all your money if you were in San Francisco.
Yeah, I know that.
And another 10% to state taxes.
No, that would not work out at all.
No, it's terrible.
At all.
So anyway, so they had a bunch of protesters gathered around a Google bus, which was coming into San Francisco to pick up Googlers.
And so they blocked the bus, and some guy went on to a rant that showed up on...
Everywhere.
I saw it everywhere.
It showed up everywhere, and it was a hoax.
And everybody, they took it hook, line, and sinker.
But it was a good actor, I have to say.
It was very convincing.
The guy was a douchebag who was bitching and moaning about how you people should get out of the city if you can't afford to live here.
It was great.
But I understand he was a union guy or something?
Yeah, he was one of the union guys.
What's the angle there with the union stuff?
The angle was try to make the Googlers look like the douchebags.
In other words, here's the way I would see it.
Does the union have a dispute with Google that I'm unaware of?
No, I think this had to do with the bus drivers, or it could have been anything.
The guy just happened to be a union...
I think he was probably a union actor.
We don't know.
The details of this character are still a little vague.
But it was like they were making the...
I hate to say this, but the guys that were...
The guy pretending to be a douchebag is a real person in terms of that type of person is all over the place.
The kind of the arrogant...
Tech worker that is in San Francisco.
But, you know, whatever it is, it is.
I just thought it was funny that everybody bought into the act until the very end.
Well, again, it's that little tech community, that little piece of the world that seems to be so important.
Well, it is in the area that's got...
Now the traffic is ruined and everything else is bad, too.
I'm sorry.
You got a piece for...
I got a thing for you here.
Try this.
Tell me what you think of this one.
This one actually caught me off guard and I picked up on a very obscure news show.
Canada moves on the North Pole.
Okay.
Canada is to lay claim to the North Pole as part of a bid to assert control over a large part of the resource-rich Arctic.
Foreign Minister John Byrd said the paperwork had gone in to a UN commission which is currently collecting competing claims.
Denmark and Russia won't be pleased as the region lies on a continental shelf they control.
Don't you think it was time for Canada to put a stake in the ground up there?
Yeah.
Apparently the whole area, you know, I mean the Russians went to North Pole, apparently the Danes went to North Pole.
Canada actually is pretty close to the North Pole.
Yeah, I was reading Shell.
Let me see, I have it here, it's in Dutch.
Shell will be starting with the production of oil and gas in the North Pole 2025.
They say they're starting their test drilling in 2014-2015.
It's going to get busy up there.
It's going to be a lot of people jockeying for position.
Shell, of course.
There's going to be a lot of good stuff up there.
I think that's why they're melting it.
Dynamite.
Well, now that kind of brings me to a great conversation I heard.
This was on CNN, which, of course, no one really watches CNN. And while they're in this transition to, you know, getting celebrity chefs and travel shows and anything but news, they gave Don Lemon a show.
It's called, I don't know, it's like...
The Don Lemon Show.
No, it's not quite that bad.
It's like 11 Live or something.
It's dumb.
Yeah.
Lemon.
Lemon Live.
Let's call it Lemon.
The Lemon Show.
Hey, that would be good.
The Lemon Show.
So Don is on, and he has on with him a guy from the Sierra Club.
Now, the Sierra Club are pretty much all in on climate change, global warming, and what have you.
And then they bring in, and simultaneously, it's a tri-box, and one guy who didn't talk at all.
He was some, I don't know, consultant.
He didn't get a word in edgewise.
And the other guy is a guy from the Climate Depot.
You know, climatedepot.org, I think it is.
Who was all against the climate change meme.
And it was really, it was a good conversation.
The Climate Depot guy just went off so eloquently.
So I have three clips here.
First we get the Climate Depot guy with a setup from Lemon, which is beautiful.
And then the Sierra Club guy, and then we go back, and the Sierra Club guy, or the Climate Depot guy, just rails on the Sierra Club guy.
It was an interesting exchange with some facts and some calling out of the other guy, and I thought it was just good because it brings in our basic...
Thesis that we're headed towards global cooling, and they're telling us to buy bathing suits in which we're all going to freeze to death.
Look at what we're experiencing now.
We're experiencing below zero temperatures in Chicago earlier than any time in the last two decades.
A record snowfall for today in New York.
Tomorrow morning, 90% of the country will face below normal temperatures.
If this isn't climate change, then what is it?
By the way, I love how Don Lemon is all in on freezing temperatures being climate change.
That's where we're headed.
Isn't that great?
How smart were they to change it from global warming to climate change?
So smart.
Well, that was a smart move.
Genius.
Within this trio of clips, Slip Mine In, which is another one that kind of backs this up, which is Snow in the Middle East.
Okay, will do.
I'll do it right after this first piece.
So record coal is now evidence of man-made global warming.
What evidence would disprove climate change?
It seems like no matter the weather, everything that happens proves it.
The bottom line is in 2013, we're having one of the least extreme weather years on record.
This report came out about a month ago.
And if you look at the longer term trend, there's actually a declining or no trend in U.S. droughts or global droughts.
There's no trend in floods going back, I think, up to 127 years.
One study was a journal Nature on the droughts.
Tornadoes, big tornadoes, F3 and larger, have been on decline since the 1950s.
Hurricanes.
The U.S. has gone almost eight years now, over eight years, without a major Category 3 or larger hurricane hitting the longest period since before 1900.
So on every measure of extreme weather, it ain't there.
Global weirding.
There's nothing more than a pseudo...
I think that's a mistake.
He blew it by saying that.
There's no reason.
He had all the facts.
He's lined up.
He's doing great.
And then he has to call it global weirding.
Dumb.
Yeah, you know, that's what the right wing does.
Dumb.
They change everything, you know.
Dumb, dumb, dumb.
They change these names.
Well, we do that.
We change names.
Yeah, but we're not right wing.
True.
But it was just dumb.
Science expression.
And in the 1970s, the global cooling scare, as popularized in the media and as many scientists, they blamed extreme weather, in fact, specifically Newsweek, the 1974 tornado outbreaks, on global cooling.
They had their own 1970s version of global warming.
We get your point.
You don't think it's real.
Well, the scientific journals don't think it's real.
Michael, obviously, you think he's wrong, don't you?
I do.
You know, all of what Mark said would be very compelling if it were true.
You're lying.
It wasn't in time.
We didn't see that.
Lies!
This is something that has been settled.
The science is settled, right?
The science is settled.
The science is settled.
You've got to settle.
Now, the top climate scientists in the world, thousands of them.
The top.
This is so bad.
Thousands of them.
Are now as confident that climate change is real as they are that cigarettes make people sick.
And this was not in the IPCC report, I would like to point out.
Nowhere in the report do they say, we're so confident this is real, it's just that we climate guys know that cigarettes kill you.
This is the stupidest argument.
This is a guy peddling on talking points.
The only folks who are arguing this are the occasional climate skeptic or the people who are paid for by the fossil fuel industry.
That would be us, John, paid for by the fossil fuel industry.
Hey, where's our money?
We know that the extreme weather events that we're seeing, the record wildfires, the record droughts, the extreme storms that we're seeing, the hurricane that we saw with a thousand mile diameter that hit the eastern seaboard late October last year, are precisely what scientists have said would be the cause of global warming and climate change.
It was predicted.
It was in the red book.
It is time now for a check of the weather.
People in Istanbul, Turkey are trudging through heavy snow.
My Shoji shows us what it looks like there and elsewhere in world weather.
Yes, Katherine, much of Turkey is experiencing a winter wonderland after two days of snowfall.
Cold out there, too.
Now, pulling you back here, you can see a very big high-pressure system that's covering much of the central regions, and that pushed the jet stream all the way down towards northern Egypt.
That's why we're looking at these kind of temperatures, well below the average range, and the snow is likely to continue in Istanbul into Friday.
Damascus, you're likely to see snowfall on your Friday and into Saturday.
Jerusalem's actually looking at snow as of now, and it will be turning into sleep finally by Saturday, so it looks like we're going to be looking.
I got a call from Taxi Eric.
He's my buddy.
He drives the cab in Amsterdam.
He says, dude, Antarctica, new record, 93.2 below zero centigrade.
That's like 135.
Yeah, it's pretty cold.
Minus 100.
That's extremely cold.
Now, let's go back to this Sierra guy.
He says something which is so ludicrous because I live here.
Well, we do have records that go back hundreds or even thousands of years that can show how the Earth's temperatures have increased dramatically in the last 150 years.
Okay, we have records that go back thousands of years, and we can show the last 150 years.
And the concentration of global warming gases in the atmosphere are at levels that we haven't seen in millions of years.
Millions?
And we know that this is because of the burning of fossil fuels.
But if you put all of that aside, the thing that we need to embrace right now is...
Put all of it aside.
We know.
What's he talking about?
He's trying to scare you.
This is completely like the book.
Which I can never remember the title.
Yeah, we'll play out.
These extreme weather events that we're seeing, that we're beginning to experience right now, are causing a serious deterioration of the quality of our lives across the country.
I've talked to ranchers in Nebraska who have lost their cattle because of the severe drought that they're experiencing.
I've talked to families in Texas, the massive wildfire outside of Austin, Texas.
Hold on a second.
The massive wildfire.
That was four years ago.
And yeah, but the fires are started for different reasons.
And anything can burn at any point.
And by the way, we are pretty much above average for rain this year.
And he's bringing that into the conversation as climate change.
Fire is not climate change.
It's just not true.
Destroyed 1,200 homes.
Steiner Ranch didn't matter.
...period of less than 24 hours.
My own family's house was flooded in New Jersey because of Superstorm Sandy.
Oh, gosh.
I lived in New Jersey.
It flooded all the time.
The whole state's a flood zone.
With or without Superstorm Sandy.
It flooded all the time.
Just one big rainstorm.
Trees would get washed away.
It happened all the time.
And around the country, if you haven't experienced an extreme weather event in the last couple years, give it a little bit of time, because over the next couple decades, almost all of us are going to have some relationship to these extreme weather events.
We have to start creating our own weather event on this show, John.
Do we have any weather?
We need some sound effects.
I'll load a bunch of sound effects that make it sound like it's stormy.
You had that one.
Well, I remember doing it before.
I don't know if we...
Yeah, a couple years ago you had this one where you'd be out in the storm.
Yeah, we'll load some storm stuff up.
And we've got to create our own because we have to prepare everybody for the inevitable.
It's going to happen.
You can't get away from it.
All right, so now let's wind this up with a guy from Climate Depot.
Schooling the Sierra Club guy on where his money comes from.
The bottom line is the Arctic ice was started monitoring in 1979 at a high point of the 1970s global cooling scare.
We lost ice.
This year, by the way, we rebounded, depending on what date you want to pick, almost a third or more of the ice.
And global sea ice currently is at highest in 25 years.
Antarctic sea ice is at on air record, which no one wants to talk about Antarctic sea ice because it's inconvenient to the narrative.
But the idea that we're having extreme weather, listening to Michael talk there, it's mind-boggling.
I mean, the Earth is geologically billions of years old, and we're sitting around here scratching our heads saying, wow, we had a hurricane last year, which was barely a Category 1 when it hit.
And then, by the way, It's not me, and he's mentioning funding, by the way, which I think is funny.
The Sierra Club took 26 million from natural gas, and Michael has the audacity to try to imply that skeptics are fossil fuel funded.
The bottom line is these are in scientific peer-reviewed journals.
The studies I just cited on the journal Nature on drought and floods was in a hydrological journal.
I mean, there's no trend.
You can't find the trends.
Professor Roger Pilkey Jr.
of the University of Colorado is testifying in Congress tomorrow on these very points.
You can't find the memo.
Yes, you can make a lot of interesting stories out of it.
Sierra Club can raise money.
It's akin to saying many bad things will happen.
Therefore, when a bad thing happens, you say, hey, see, I told you so.
It's consistent with our theory.
Hey, we should use that.
We should do that.
We should just predict bad stuff all the time.
Yeah, maybe I bring up the donations.
Yeah, to 26 million apparently.
Or maybe the natural gas folks will give us some money.
So check this out.
I get an email from one of our producers.
He says, we've got this group up here in Seattle, Washington, Physicians for Social Responsibility, and they want to shut down the Richland nuclear power plant.
Which has been around for 16, 17 years.
It's very profitable.
You know, it's working well.
But of course, you know, it's nuclear.
So we have to shut it down.
And he sends me a note and he says, man, what is going on?
This has been such a profitable region.
Everybody's making, you know, the whole economy of Richmond runs around, you know, evolves around this plant.
People working there, bringing stuff in, whatever they have to do.
Making sandwiches.
I don't know.
It works.
And the reports show that the increase, if they shut down the plant, would be about $2.5 billion over a 20-year period if they go natural gas, which is what this physicians for social responsibility want to do.
I'm like, okay, let me go take a look.
So these people are literally being used as suckers by T. Boone Pickens.
Well, that's what I thought.
But when I went into their Form 990...
They're just a bunch of liars.
It's the name that bugs me.
Physicians for Social Responsibility.
On their Form 990, this is the tax return which you have to give to the IRS, Form 990-2012.
You have to describe the organization's mission.
It's on the first page of the form.
Physicians for Social Responsibility works with its affiliated U.S. chapters to educate the health community and the public about the need for policies to abolish nuclear weapons, increase use of diplomacy, reverse climate change without nuclear power, and reduce toxic threats.
The Reduce Climate Change Without Nuclear Power, it's in their mission from a bunch of so-called doctors.
This is a front organization.
It's only like a million bucks or something, a million seven, small, small enough to not be too obvious, but on the radar nonetheless.
And they're all about the gas.
This is all about bringing in natural gas.
Now, Which means fracking.
Yep.
Be that what it may, I mean, it's just, you know...
And it means T. Boone Pickens and fracking.
So they're for fracking.
Yes.
You know, it's a double-edged sword to take this approach.
In which way?
Well, the fracking is not a positive thing for the environment.
No.
It's not a positive thing for anything.
It's a dangerous process.
It's a way I've always believed, even though this is just a crackpot.
I do have a crackpot element.
I've always believed that the whole fracking thing is a scam, and these secret chemicals that they...
What's in the stuff that you're pumping down there?
It's a secret.
Yeah, you can't.
I can't tell you.
I can't tell you because it's a secret.
What secret is it?
They're taking...
Waste products that no dump will take anymore and there's no incineration facility.
There's no way of getting rid of this crap.
And they're injecting it into the fracking process to get rid of it.
I'm telling you, I'm totally convinced of this.
This is interesting because you...
Because of the secret.
Oh, it's such a secret.
Wait a minute.
Fracking is a known process.
It works a certain way.
What is the secret liquid that they keep pumping down there?
That's a very good point.
This is the exact same conspiracy theory about the fluoride in the water.
Fluoride is a byproduct of industry.
And in order to get rid of it, the best way is just to flush it so it shows up in water.
And then we say it's good for your teeth.
I'm on board with what you're saying.
And you're right.
This has come up multiple times.
What are they calling it?
Like a trade secret?
That's why they can't?
The trade secret, what we're using.
I don't know what you're using.
You're using crap.
Old toluene, benzene bottoms, leftovers, crap from the refinery they can't seem to get rid of and it won't burn.
I mean, who knows what's in that stuff, but it's a secret.
And one of these stupid companies has a secret.
And they're shooting it into the earth.
Oh, boy.
Pay no attention to that.
It's way below the water table.
Don't worry.
I think I'm with you on that.
It's a thought.
Before we get into...
It bothers me in an old process like this.
It's got secret ingredients.
Yeah.
Like new Coke.
And old Coke.
It's finally happened, John.
I think they're on to us.
Blog post that had gone viral about our show.
Right.
Have you seen this?
No, I'm completely oblivious to this.
This is from the Moral Volcano blog.
Oh, that has a huge readership.
It does now.
The US government is the biggest manufacturer of conspiracy theories and US mainstream media and news agencies are the biggest disseminators of these official conspiracy theories.
A significant section of the American public is aware of this propaganda and they actively seek alternative sources of news and information.
To bring the lost flock back into the reality distortion field, the U.S. government has hired many conspiracy theorists outside the mainstream media.
U.S. government agencies, including the defense and state departments, have a propaganda budget running into hundreds of billions of dollars.
Thousands of government workers are employed solely on propaganda purposes meant to influence the public and lawmakers.
These government sponsored conspiracy theorists work with varying levels of sophistication.
The aim is to feed disinformation to skeptics so that the latter will be laughed out if they ever choose to spread these theories outside their charmed circle of friends and family.
Adam Curry regularly solicits insider information, particularly from sysadmins.
Anyone sending privileged information to the show can be traced back.
Does he say the name of the show?
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
The whole thing is about the No Agenda show.
Oh, so we work for the government.
Well, it's about me and then separately about you.
Anyone sending privileged information to the show, capital S, can be traced back, put under surveillance, and or subject to harassment by the government.
If you absolutely need to send the show some secret information, send it anonymously.
Curry claims that he hosts his email server in his own home and can handle PGP mail.
For novice, this may sound as if any email to his server is protected.
In reality, any connection to his email server can be traced back to the computer from which the mail originated.
I was about to put some ads in local newspapers for the show when I decided to do some due diligence.
I started an email conversation with Adam Curry where I got him worked up so much, he strongly asserted he will not stop talking about TSA x-ray machines until they were gone.
But when I suggested he raise the question why passengers in private aircraft were not being checked, there was silence.
So it looked like he did not want the Rockefellers and the Rothschilds of the world groped at private airfields.
In many of his podcasts, you will find Curry promoting U.S. Congress member Ron Paul.
Ron Paul and his family are associated with secret societies.
How old is this thing?
You haven't said anything about Ron Paul for over a year and a half?
It's brand new, this thing.
It's brand new.
This guy's got a hard-on for you.
Well...
Let's see.
Many of the conspiracy theories Adam Curry promotes are originally taken off disinfopedia.com.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'm subscribing to disinfopedia.com.
Despite the giveaway name, some people are so dumb they believe all that junk.
This guy is actually saying that I steal from him.
Some of the jokes that Curry and Dvorak make about donors slash producers seem to be inside jokes based on profiles built by security agencies.
Oh yeah.
I'm still investigating Dvorak.
And exactly when Dvorak became a Rockefeller Standard Oil media asset.
Not much of an asset considering he predicted Apple would never make much out of its entry into the phone business and certainly not beat Nokia.
He has also been to University of California, Berkeley, which he himself claims is Spook Central.
And here comes.
Dvorak writes in a fashion very similar to Gail Omvett, an economic hitman or hitwoman from the University of Berkeley.
We've never seen them in the same picture at the same time, have we?
This is just a joke.
It's not a joke.
This guy is serious.
It's a hard attack.
No, no.
He's just a put-on.
Okay.
Okay.
Either that or it's insane.
Well, that's likely.
It's all over.
Noagendashow.gov.
Is Adam Curry a Freemason?
This is from yesterday.
I'm a Freemason.
And a Rockefeller shill.
And, you know, he said, hey, they use the...
What?
Like the Rockefeller shill thing.
Where's our money?
Yeah, I'd be okay with it if we got dough.
Rockefeller shill.
What year is this?
This is 1970.
This is December 8th, 2013.
Geez.
Noagendashow.gov.
Is Adam Curry a Freemason?
Well, I can kind of see that because he's showing, you know that little logo I have that I built for the Big App Show and still use with the top hat and the brush and the pencil?
Yeah.
That kind of looks like a Freemason compass.
I have to agree.
And he's showing our donation page.
They even use knights as levels of...
It's a Masonic thing, John.
And you and I apparently are high-level operatives at Mevio.
Okay.
Anyway, I just thought I'd share that with you.
Yeah.
Well, at least you get some publicity.
At least we're getting some notoriety.
It's the first time we've gotten an actual blog post about us being disinfo.
I think that's a tipping point.
Yeah, I wonder who could be...
Who is this guy?
He says he got into a conversation with you.
This I can't remember.
I don't remember ever talking about TSA, not at private airports, and that I was...
I don't know.
I have no idea.
No, we have talked about this.
This was a long time ago, though.
I mean, this guy's obviously been dogging you for a while.
He's always been mad for a while, that's for sure.
No, it's like, but I guess he was a fan and then he woke up...
And he knows now he's figured it out.
No, he might be one of those guys who we forgot to mention in a birthday call-out or something.
Really, we have some sensitive listeners.
Yeah, I think you're right about that.
Let's see if we can do it better this time.
I'm going to show my support by donating to No Agenda.
Imagine all the people who could do that.
Oh yeah, that'd be fab.
Yeah, on No Agenda.
Alright, so I've got to do this by myself since John...
I blew up.
Yeah, you blew up.
Sir Robert Montoya from Pleasant Hill, California.
Montoya.
1-21-20.
Hello, I'm John.
Today's my birthday, 12-12-13.
Hey, is he on the list?
Can I please go to Nelson Mandela, Chemtrails, Japanese Minister of Transportation, Don Raff.
The Black Knight of Pleasant Hill, Robert Montoya.
Let me just double check because I don't see him highlighted.
See?
The whole Dvorak family has become dysfunctional because of this wedding.
Hold on a second.
Let me put Sir Robert Montoya on the list.
There we go.
Does he have an age?
What did we say here?
12, 12, 13.
Okay.
Yes, so we will, of course, play some karma for you and I don't know about the whole...
Well, I guess we could do a chemtrails and...
I gotta up the volume on the Don't Raff guy.
It's not working too well.
Patrick Turner, sorry, Sir Scott Olson, with a Make It Rain donation, 1-11-11, San Diego, California.
San Diego Night, checking in for my birthday, 12-12, and Scott is indeed on the list.
And also for making it rain karma, please call Kimberly to the stage.
Also emailed Adam a clip to support John's thesis.
The NSA mass collection of all the data is useless because it's too much to comb through.
It's from a recent interview with the NSA whistleblower William Binney, just in case.
Yeah, we got that.
It's interesting, but not really playable on the show.
But I always appreciate the clippage when it comes in.
Yeah, Binney has a lot.
He's bitter.
Yeah, it just wasn't really exciting.
Yeah, okay.
It's nothing new.
There's no new revelations, let's put it that way.
Patrick Turner, another Make It Rain donation.
Patrick's in Austin, Texas.
No girl to call on stage or boy.
So, Patrick, you have until Sunday to get your...
To get your dancer in for the big club expose.
Sir Baker from Oakland, California.
Also making it rain for his lovely lady.
Soon to be dame who enjoys the rain equally.
We'd love to see Amber on stage.
Cheers, says Sir Baker.
P.S. Your opening on Sunday about Mandela was spot on.
Santa Clausification indeed.
And the final make it rain donation, Sir Ralph Nailison from Apachin?
Apachin?
Aachen.
There we go.
I can't even read.
Aachen in Germany.
This is good to listen to.
Yeah, but...
Now you get some appreciation.
I have appreciation, but then could you please do the jingles while I'm reading?
Because that's what I'm doing.
Well, you're double duty.
You said so yourself.
Who does he make it rain for?
Hi, Adam and John.
I should be becoming Baron by now.
Indeed.
We should be giving him that title today.
May I request NeutralMoresNet.com?
Part of Belgium nowadays, under the reign of the Grand Duke.
Yeah, I think that shouldn't be a problem.
You can have a barony under a duke, then.
Yeah, I think so, yeah.
So, Ralph, P.S., my bookkeeping isn't good as well, but I was made knight for the second time in December 2012.
He has a little more accounting there.
PPS. Neutral Morsnet has been an interesting area before World War I when it was independent.
It seems some of my ancestors lived there.
Okay, Sir Ralph.
We will make sure that you get that.
Where is that?
In Belgium.
I think it's...
It must be on the border of Belgium and France.
I never heard of it.
MoorsNet.
I'll look it up.
Yeah.
Later.
There's also...
Is it itm.im slash peers?
I think we have the peerage.
Let me just check that.
Do you have...
Did he have somebody make it rain for somebody?
Um...
Let me see.
No, he doesn't have a name there.
Okay, well, so far we've only got Chris the Dude, Hillary Angela, Kimberly and Amber.
Well, if you want to get it in, guys, to bring your dancer on stage, Sunday will be the day.
And for those of you looking at the peerages, go to itm.im slash peers, and that's where we have an up-to-date map of our knights, our barons, our dukes, grand dukes, etc.
It's a nice little map that we have going on.
Yeah, boots on the ground.
Yes.
Wherever you are in the world, you're not far from no-agenda peerage to help you out.
Onward, Paul Roberson from Upper Track, West Virginia.
$100, thank you very much.
Sir Thomas Nussbaum, checking in with $93 from Virginia Beach.
93 days tobacco nicotine-free.
Thanks for using the artwork, JCD, and newsletter.
Absolutely.
Then we have a double shot, and I guess this is okay.
From Andrew Lemesini, Colorado Springs.
I miss show 567 getting 8, 9, 10, which would have completed the trifecta.
Epic fail.
Keep the difference.
And then he does 8, 9, 10, donating 8, 9, 10 for 11, 12, 13 euro style.
This is a good idea, by the way.
Another thing we've missed.
I put it in the last newsletter.
Well, he had show 567 and then added 8910, which is 8910.
And then for yesterday being 11, 12, 13, he did another 8910 to add to the 11, 12, 13.
That's pretty genius.
I like that.
We should have him doing this.
And reading it, too.
Someone else should be doing this stuff.
We're no good at it.
Okay, let me get everything set here because I know what's coming up.
Onward, we have Frederick Leaders, Ontario, Oregon.
No, I can't afford this, but it needs to be done.
Everybody needs to chip in.
It's like Lou Rockwell says, you need to speak truth to power.
That's how these bastards will be defeated.
77-77.
Thank you very much.
Brian William with 7373 from Streamwood, Illinois.
That, of course, is a ham donation, so we understand that one.
And then, here it is.
69!
69, dude!
We do have a couple of 69ers.
Thomas from Wyoming.
Craig Porter from Jacksonville, Florida.
Stashkov Vladimir.
Maybe Vladimir Stashkov from Kamerovo.
Kamerovaskaya.
In the morning, dudes, as a rare listener from Gitmo Nation, Russia, I was hoping you'd do me the honor of playing Gitmo Nation National Anthem.
Keep up the good work, comrades.
Yes, I shall do that.
We'll do that at the end of the show.
Happy to do that for you.
And then we have Edward Hines from Jacksonville, Florida.
Also, $69.69 for the Swazilnav donation level.
And finally, David Hazen from New York with also his Swazilnav $69.69!
$69!
Peter McConnell, $66.16, no note or place of origin.
Aaron Heath from St.
Agnes, South Australia with $64.
Arthur Gobetz.
From Zandam in the Netherlands.
It's his birthday, 1212.
He decided to be like Sinterklaas.
Could you stop that, John?
That's really kind of annoying.
I thought it was kind of like a bluesy thing where I'm hitting a note after you say something.
No, it's kind of shit, actually.
TrustMyTech from Monroe, Georgia, with a new donation level, 5555.
Not that that's so new, but he says, I'd like to initiate a 5x5 donation category.
That, of course, also being radio communication phrase for the highest signal strength, five by five.
That was five dog biscuits over five.
Yeah, that's the same thing.
Please send some book sales karma for my book, If You Give a Guy a Beer, available on Amazon.
Okay, we'll do that.
Karma coming up.
Luke Ziwa, $53.94.
Luke is from Gitmo Nation, Deutschland.
That's the number of euros I have to pay the German public media every three months.
In Germany, every household has to pay this fee by law.
It's pretty steep, actually.
$53.94.
So what is that, like 40 euros?
For what?
For your German television.
No, yeah.
A month?
Yeah.
No, every three months.
It's like worse than a cable bill.
Every three months.
Every three months.
Oh.
Bronze clothing.
By the way, I think the public should be notified that they charge that just to have a television to receive something, you have to pay a tax.
Yeah, in the UK as well, and in the Netherlands, and wherever there's public media like that, yeah?
Well, we pay for it indirectly here, too, for our national treasure.
Brun's Clothing, brunsclothing.com, 5150.
Watertown, South Dakota, fantastic jackets.
William Young from Lebanon, Tennessee, 5150.
Kevin Payne, 5069 from Chantilly, Virginia.
Dennis Stewart from...
Tootle, Washington.
Am I saying that correctly, John?
Tootle?
T-O-U-T-L-E? Tootle?
I don't know.
I've never heard of it.
FEMA Region 10, retired wage slave.
Thank you very much, Dennis, with $50.
Kathleen Stokes from San Diego, California, $50 as well.
Long-time listener, long-time douche.
Usually poor this time, the reason for my douche-liness.
However, I found this $50 lurking around my bank account.
Decided to give it to you, too.
That's very nice.
Thank you.
We hope you are doing it because you feel the value you receive.
We do want to remind people that their PayPal accounts, some of them who have PayPal accounts, should note that it's just languishing in there.
You should close your PayPal account and forward it to us.
I want to thank you, says Kathleen, send a picture by the way, for getting me off my addiction to Bravo and removing myself from Andy Cohen's clutches.
Wow.
Sandy Cohen.
He's the guy who does a talk show on Bravo with, like, reality soap stars.
This is horrible.
Is there any science on what that shit does to your brain?
Why, yes, I actually have a report with some information on that, which will play right after the donation segment.
Jeremy Alexander, $50.
Paul Vela, another familiar name from Milton Keynes, Buckinghamshire, United Kingdom.
James Fortune, F-O-R-T-U-N, Geneva, Illinois, with $50.
Mike Byron from Wakefield, West Yorkshire, in Gitmo Nation East, $50.
Kristen Smith, Blyton, Lincolnshire, also in the United Kingdom.
And there's our other Russian listener.
Sukhoi of Alexander, Moscow, with $50.
Jeremy Robbins from Portville, California, $50.
And finally, Scott Soltis from Minneapolis, also with $50.
Thank you so much, everybody, for...
Supporting the best podcast in the universe.
I have some notes here.
Of course, special karma going to Buzzkill Jr.
and his fiancée Jesse there getting hitched today.
And of course, we already said hi to Dame Tanya, who was at the rehearsal dinner.
Are they doing the whole traditional thing and flower girls and up the aisle and everything?
Yeah.
And how about the parents?
Have you met the...
Yeah.
Are they nice?
Yeah.
The old man's a gold bug.
Oh, really?
I gave him a no-agenda disc.
You should sell him some Bitcoin.
I gave him a no-agenda disc.
He's a perfect customer for the show.
I love it.
My mom, not so much, probably.
She's more of an old lefty.
Oh, really?
I gave the leftover ones to Tanya.
She'll hand them out to whoever.
And if you hadn't seen the tweet, I put it in the show notes, of the Curry-Dvorak oil paintings.
Did you see that?
Yeah, I dropped a couple off.
How big are they?
Hello?
Hello?
John?
Hello?
Did I lose you for good?
John?
Yes, the sound that he's back.
Sorry about that.
It was the Windows machine froze.
That's a new one.
Well, at least it's not dead.
No.
No.
That's been one of those moments.
Okay.
Let's see.
We did our Buskill Junior stuff.
Oh, yes.
I also wanted to thank Elise Garling, Dame Elise, who I got another care package.
I don't know if you received one, John.
Oh, yes, I did.
It consisted of a bottle of vinegar and an illegal substance.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's exactly what it was.
A bottle of vinegar.
I had two bottles of illegal substance.
Oh, I got a bottle of vinegar.
Really?
Oh, that's interesting.
I got limoncello.
And I got the wine that they make in their brownstone in New York.
Yeah.
And then a jar of...
Have you tried wine?
No, no, no, not yet.
I had it last time.
It's the second bottle she sent.
It's good.
Have you tried it?
You've had the wine before?
Uh, yeah.
Well, look, I'm the one who has the picture contact with her, you know.
Like, I converse with our people.
At least I got the vinegar you didn't get.
Yeah.
People either can't find your email, which is always astounding to me.
Hey, send this to John.
I couldn't find his email.
But even then, he doesn't read his email.
I read all my email.
Yeah.
And a quick shout-out to Marcus Kazmarek, Future Knight.
He sent in $37, which was $12 plus $12 plus $13.
And he wanted a karma call out for all supporters.
So here's the karma everybody needed, those of you who supported the show today.
Thank you very much.
It is highly appreciated.
Of course, the lesser amounts as well.
And by the way, there were more than one $37.
Is this a new thing that we put up there?
Did you do that?
12 plus 12 plus 13.
Is that a donation amount on the page?
Yeah.
Oh, cool.
Well, we had one, two, three, four, four people.
Well, it really is successful.
Yeah, there you go.
Here's your karma, everybody.
Bend over.
you've got karma.
Barrett Sir Dr.
Sharky celebrating today along with Sir Robert Montoya and Sir Scott Olson and also Arthur Gobetz.
Man, it is a four-peat of birthdays here on the No Agenda Show.
Thank you for your support.
Thank you for...
Celebrating with us, the best podcast in the universe.
Happy birthday from your buddies here at the show.
It's your birthday, yeah!
And then we've got quite a list.
Let me see.
We have Sir Ralph becoming a baron.
Okay, we have that.
Let me just mark this.
Andrew Blackburn, who was supposed to be knighted on 572, so he does become an official black knight.
Edward Jacobs about to be knighted, knight of the Appalachian Piedmont.
James Pyers, as we know, Sir Wire of the Hidden Jewel.
And Kyle Kinzel.
Did we do Kyle's note, John?
Yeah, we did.
Yes, that's the note.
We did Kyle's note, so if you don't mind...
Do you have your blade there, or do you not have that either?
No, I got the blade.
Don't you have to wear that on your ceremonial uniform for the wedding?
I have a different blade for that.
Okay.
All right, Andrew Blackburn, step forward, Edward Jacobs, James Pyres, and Kyle Kinzel.
All of you have contributed to the best podcast in the university amounts of $1,000 or more, and therefore I am very proud to pronounce the Sir Black Knight, Andrew Blackburn.
Sir Edward Jacobs, Knight of the Appalachian Piedmont.
James Pyers, Sir Wire of the Hidden Jewel.
And Kyle Kinzel, Sir Kyle.
Gentlemen, please come on down for your cannabis and cabinet.
Librarians and Jagerbombs.
Hot librarians, that is.
Opium and warm orange juice, hookers and blow, geishas and a bucket of fried chicken, rent boys and chardonnay.
A bong, hits and bourbon, or maybe just sparkling cider and escorts.
Maybe some mutton and meat.
The list has gotten long.
I should publish this list.
I'll put it in the show notes for today.
Yes, you should publish the list and then just refer to the list in one second.
Go to that list to see if there's something there you like.
It's kind of like a Happy Meal menu.
And, of course, go to noagendanation.com slash rings to go pick up your well-coveted, deserved night ring along with your sealing wax.
I got a little story that I picked up from one of our producers.
Okay, read it.
What is your understanding of what happened with the Cobalt-60 in Mexico?
I have no understanding of the Cobalt-60 in Mexico.
Do you remember how it was presented, right?
It was kind of like, oh, some guy stole a truck.
Well, it was presented as...
Well, it depends on what the outlet was.
But I think the general presentation was a guy stole a truck and it accidentally...
Unknown to the guy, had a bunch of Cobalt-60 in it, and the guy had to be careful because he'd kill himself if he came in contact with the stuff.
So the truck was just laying casually around, and the guy took it because he was a truck thief.
That's all I know.
What do you have?
Here's what I have from an anonymous source.
Boots on the ground.
Boots on the ground.
Boots on the ground happens to be an EOD expert.
EOD is, these are the explosive guys who go clean stuff up when it's explosive.
And they were called, he was called to duty, you know, be at base in an hour.
And he wound up, and I can't even tell you where he was, what state, because that might compromise him.
But it turns out he was not alone.
There were 300 EOD experts gathered Within that hour.
300 is probably half, if not 70% of all the top EOD experts in the country.
This is not just a couple guys from one state.
They were then flown on 10 Chinooks down to Mexico.
And apparently, there had been a firefight.
There were dead guys around.
The reason why they needed 300 of these guys is because you could only really handle or be around, they had to clean it up, this Cobalt for five minutes, and then they have to switch out, some other guy has to take over.
And the story that I'm getting back is that this really was someone who had stolen or acquired this Cobalt-60 to place into a bomb, essentially make a dirty bomb.
And that this has been covered up, certainly for the media.
I don't know if it's a cover-up in general, but for the media it's been covered up.
And that this really was a serious attack.
And I'm surprised.
I mean, it's not within the six-week cycle.
No.
So they try to minimize things.
Hey, you guys are too early!
Stop that!
So anytime something real happens, which this may be, sounds like, at least it was taken very seriously, but it's not in the script, so you've got to just go take care of it and tell people to shut up about it, because we don't want anyone getting too freaked out.
Exactly.
So there was a firefight, which means the government or somebody, some army, people who tracked the stuff, and the stuff got thrown out of the truck?
What happened?
No, I think the guys stole it and they were on their way to their lair or whatever to create their bomb, which was apparently to be used in the United States.
And they were stopped by the authorities, whether it's Mexican or U.S., I don't know.
And there was a firefight and they killed them.
And then they had to clean up the mess.
And that was the Cobalt-60 that was left over.
Well, there's a missing piece of the puzzle.
Well, there's a lot of missing pieces.
Which one are you referring to?
The missing piece for me is the Cobalt-60 was in a container of some sort.
What happened?
Did it get scattered?
Or was the container rolling down the hill and it broke open?
I mean, what specifically...
You know, either it opened up or the container opened, whatever.
Well, maybe the container was never opened.
It's still, this stuff is so radioactive or so toxic that you can't, even when you have your hazmat suit and everything, you still can't be around it for too long, which is why they had to have so many guys rotating to clean it up.
So there was a cleanup of sorts.
I don't know.
I didn't even know what Cobalt-60 looks like.
I mean, was it powder?
I mean, I don't know.
Is it the goop like toothpaste?
I have no idea.
So I don't have all the information.
We will have to do some follow-up on this.
This is a good story.
Well, yeah.
Unfortunately, this is about all I can say because I've really been...
This is all I can say.
This is all I know, but it's also all I can say.
I don't know if we'll get any more.
No, but we can find out about Cobalt-60 a little bit.
Yeah, for sure.
What's it used for normally, and why was it being driven around in a truck?
Medical purposes.
It was supposed to be disposed of.
A radiation device or something like that for cancer.
I think that's what they use it for.
I think you're just making it up.
What?
I see you're just making it up.
You don't know what it was used for.
No, I asked specifically what it was used for, and that was the answer I got.
Medical?
Yeah.
Yeah, cobalt-60.
No, I'm pretty sure.
We can, we'll just...
Consult the book of knowledge.
Cobalt-60.
It is a...
Here we go.
Radioactive isotope.
Yes.
Applications.
Sterilization of medical equipment.
There you go.
Radiation source for medical radiotherapy.
I'm not a total dick.
Are you still there?
Yeah.
I don't know.
No, I'm listening.
I thought there was more to it.
I know.
I just didn't hear you breathing, so I didn't know.
Radiation source for food irradiation, blood irradiation, radiation source for laboratory mutagenesis use.
Now, let's see.
Safety.
And then they have, of course, that's the...
Oh, here it is.
In December 2013, a truck carrying a disused 111 TBQ Cobalt-60 teletherapy source from a hospital in Tijuana to a radioactive waste storage center was hijacked at a gas station.
There you go.
The source was found abandoned and intact in a field close by.
See, that's the part that we don't know about.
That's the bullcrap.
That's the bullcrap part.
18 and 19.
Mexico informs theft of dangerous radioactive...
Yeah, I mean, also the fact that our guys had to go in at all, you know that meant something.
I mean, what, the Mexican authorities can't find a hijacked truck?
No, you know we had something to do with it.
Or there was something about it for us.
Well, I'm surprised this story was completely suppressed.
Well, I was surprised, too.
It really makes you wonder how much of this is scripted and anything goes off script.
It's just repressed.
But that is the annoying thing.
Why can't we know that?
They want to scare us.
Why can't we?
That was a good one.
I'm like, yeah, go Chinook guys.
Go EOD guys.
Now I'm happy about what we...
Are you clipping your toenails?
No.
It was a ballpoint pen.
So I'm really happy when I hear these stories.
But why can't we know that?
And why do we have to hear the bullcrap one?
You know, like...
We found, you know, the underwear bomber.
Why do they have to make all that stuff up when the truth is so good?
It's like the fracking.
All of that.
I find it to be very peculiar.
Why can't they just tell us the truth?
I believe this guy is part of the team that went in there and then had to deal with this mess.
I don't know.
Maybe it's to keep the terrorists off.
Now, they already stole it, so they already knew something.
I don't know.
I don't want to give anybody any ideas.
I have no idea.
Alright, referring back to our donations, and besides, I forgot...
I think I forgot to remind you to help us out.
Yes, we do have a Sunday show coming up, and we need continuous support, obviously.
A new report out, which is exactly why you should be listening to the best podcast in the universe.
And this refers to the producer, Kathleen, who was...
We have saved from watching Bravo.
How is it that media coverage of trauma-related stories can cause more stress and distress So the people watching then those who actually are directly exposed to the event We don't know how it happens.
What we do know is that the more media exposure people reported engaging in in the week following the Boston Marathon bombings the more likely they were to report acute stress symptoms and We wish we knew how that happened, but it's an association that needs to be further studied, for sure.
One of the things that we do know is that we've seen studies recently that have shown that watching videos of traumatic images can actually engage fear conditioning centers in the brain as well as encourage people to develop flashbacks following these kinds of exposures.
So we don't know what that media exposure is doing in the brain and that's what needs to be, we need to find out more information about that.
What we do know is that this was media exposure from a variety of sources.
I want to make that clear.
We included social media, so Twitter, Facebook, as well as traditional forms of media like television, radio, print, etc.
So it was an accumulation of all types of media exposures in that week following the Boston Marathon bombings.
There you go.
It makes you ill.
Well, there's two things that are ancillary to this I should mention.
One was a study a few years ago that showed that people who watch network news were more depressed than the general public.
And they associated that with watching the news, which is always never good news, always bad news.
The other one is another study that showed that people who watch football I think I mentioned this on the show before.
They end up with the same hormonal changes and excitement and levels of whatever go through the system as the winning team if they're rooting for the winning team.
And they have the same negative effects on the body as the losing team if they're rooting for the losing team.
So you have a stadium full of people who are...
You know, having the same kind of elation that the players have.
Which is, by the way, and I've said this, that's why you should always pick a winning team and just root for them.
Always pick the winning team.
Yeah, it's called a fair weather fan, and it's the smart money.
It'll make you feel better.
But also, knowing that you're being bullcrapped helps.
That's why the No Agenda Show is good for your general health.
Yeah, I think so, because I think if you watch these things that these women were citing, and you have the no agenda mentality, you're skeptical, and you go, this is not...
I had an idea about this, but it may be hard.
So, Ms.
Mickey has this thyroid medication, we've talked about it before, and she gets it compounded, which has really changed her life in the past few years since we found this doctor here in the People's Pharmacy.
So, yesterday we discovered that certainly ours, but almost no insurance companies will cover compounded medication anymore.
Because, of course, why should we do that?
You need to have the pre-packaged crap from Merck or whoever makes the branded stuff.
So this sucks.
So now we have to pay for this out-of-pocket unless we want to go to the branded pre-fab, pre-level stuff, which we don't want to do.
That's the way it works.
You've got to pay out-of-pocket.
So I find out about this FSA thing, which is a...
Was it free savings account or stands for something?
And you can essentially...
It's a health savings account.
Yes.
HSA. Right.
Well, no, it's an FSA. Well...
Well, I'm just...
Look, don't argue with me.
FSA. And you can put two and a half...
Freedom.
And you can...
You can put up to $2,500 per year into the FSA pre-tax, which, you know, that saves 35% or 30%, whatever, 28%.
You know, it's still money.
And then you get a debit card.
Which you can then subsequently use to purchase.
Yeah, this is old.
This is very similar to an HSA or an ESA, which is an educational savings account where you can put money aside for college.
So I'm like, okay, we'll have to do this.
And I go look at the list of things that are eligible for FSA that you can then use this debit card to pay for with your pre-tax money.
You can even get tampons on this thing.
So I'm thinking, why don't we – shouldn't the No Agenda show be eligible for FSA payments if we're actually making you healthier?
Yeah, if we want – yeah, yeah, absolutely, Adam.
And by the way, let's also use that money to pay for some high-end accountants when the IRS comes by.
It was just the thought.
Contact lens solution.
This is the biggest scam.
You can buy anything.
And also, you can put away $5,000 pre-tax for dependent care.
I think we could do that to each other.
Yeah, we should have.
Actually, these savings accounts, these saving accounts are a great idea.
Yeah, well, I'm very upset that, once again, here's yet another piece of medication that they're just not going to pay for.
That's horrible.
Okay.
It's like $110 a month.
That sucks.
Well, you know, it's better than poking the eye with a sharp stick.
At least this stuff works.
Yeah.
And it's time to play it once again, John!
Drone or not drone?
No, it's not drone or not drone.
It's better.
And now, No Agendas, Bitcoin Bonanza.
This week, Peter Omakar.
Peter Omakar.
Taylor Swift.
Elon Musk.
And Satoshi Nakamoto.
This week on Bitcoin Bananza.
I just love the...
He does a new one every week now.
Yeah.
I like the slipping Taylor Swift.
Pierre-Akmi Umudar.
So they replaced the Persons of Interest show this week with the Victoria's Secrets crap fashion thing, which was the most overproduced piece of junk I've seen maybe for years.
Taylor was hosting that, wasn't she?
Didn't Taylor Swift host that?
She was in there hosting it, and she could pull it off because she's tall.
You don't realize how tall she is when she's up against these 5'11 models.
She's taller than 5'11"?
No, she's, I think, like 5'11".
Oh, okay.
She's very tall, or 5'10", at least.
But, you know, I was just saying, when she's standing next to him, she doesn't look like some midget.
I saw a couple pictures.
I think I saw it at the supermarket in the checkout line.
And they had pictures of that.
Or maybe it was somewhere else.
I can't remember.
I have to say, for the first time, I saw Taylor Swift kind of as a sexual object at that show.
She still looks like Donald Trump to me.
I just can't get it out of my brain.
That's right, everybody.
It's No Agenda's Bitcoin Bonanza.
Current price, $890.
Makes a lot of sense.
Yeah, and a bounce back.
You should have bought and bought hard at $500.
Exactly like we predicted.
Yeah.
Fidelity is now allowing clients to put Bitcoins into their IRAs.
This is pathetic.
They shouldn't do that.
Yeah, yeah.
But there's an ETF. There's an ETF? No, there's not an ETF, but there's a fund.
Second market, I guess?
And they have $15 million.
He's been looking into this because he thinks the whole thing's a scam.
Duh.
But he's trying to find some way in hell of being able to short Bitcoin.
Well, he shouldn't do that.
It's too early.
He should not be.
He should do it now.
He just wants to know how it can be done, and apparently it can't.
Well, I would recommend against it.
You shouldn't go shorting that stuff.
Just let it go.
I'm waiting for $10,000.
Yeah, our guy should slip that into the jingle.
So here's a new meme.
I think this is going to take off.
The one that took off already was STEM. Oh, science, technology, engineering.
They should just say science, tech, engineering, and math.
How about sci, tech, eng, and math?
I don't like STEM. No.
It just doesn't sound good.
It's missing the arts, which is an important piece of growing up.
They don't want arts.
They don't want nobody, no.
No, no.
Just slaves, engineer slaves.
Okay.
So this is a new one.
This is NEATS. And I've started hearing this now quite a bit.
NEATS? All right.
165 young people held a media conference in Tokyo.
They're often referred to as NEETS, which stands for Not in Education, Employment, or Training.
One survey suggests 630,000 Japanese fall into this category, but more and more of them are finding new ways to get a head start.
Not in education, engineering, or training?
Yeah.
That means you're a bum.
Bum, yeah.
What is that?
He's just a loser.
That could be bum.
B-U-M. You're not doing anything.
Wow.
You watched.
This is the meme of the day.
Neats.
Neats.
All right.
As we draw closer, we're not quite in the clip-a-palooza.
News from the Euroland.
The European Union, they had a long, long meeting, all the finance ministers, of course.
We know that by 2017, the S has to hit the F. This is as per the Dvorak cycle prediction.
And it looks like they're ready for 2016, and they're going to set everybody up for, well, the bank collapses.
European finance ministers have wrapped up a 16-hour marathon negotiating session here in Brussels, and we've failed to reach an agreement, though the president of the Eurogroup told me it was a success.
Why?
Because we have the basis of an agreement, and what's that going to look like?
It begins with a Cyprus-style bail-in.
Those rules are going to be brought forward it seems to 2016.
If more money is needed, then we go to national resolution funds.
And if yet still more money is needed, then we look to pool the money across different countries.
Over the course of the next five to ten years, those individual funds will become the basis of a common fund.
We will have European funds, as far as I'm concerned.
That's definitely my position.
But there will be, especially in the first years, some national responsibility.
And if that causes a problem, then we have the ESM according to the agreed rules.
So I think the outlines of how it's going to work are becoming more and more clear.
And this is the sticking point for some of these other finance ministers, the likes of France and the likes of Spain.
They want that common rescue fund to be more decided, more outlined, before we can reach an agreement here.
So we have the basis, we have the idea of scope, we can do this outside of the current EU treaties, but it still comes down to just what this common Eurozone rescue fund looks like.
So here's the way I read this.
The collapse is coming.
They know it.
And the first money that will be taken for failed banks is your money.
Of course, they'll do it Cypress style.
They've already tested that idea and it worked.
And Cypress worked very well.
Sorry, Mr.
Oil.
Then the second step will be national money, so the taxpayers of the country where it took place.
And then if all else fails, oh well, then we'll take some of the central banking money, which is the European stability mechanism, which really comes from all the other countries in the Eurozone.
They're gearing up for it, John.
It sounds like it's just on its way.
Well, it is.
Yeah, I mean, there's no surprise there, but still, unreported.
The timing's going to be interesting.
Well, Godfrey Bloom, I think he's of UKIP, I think he's, is Godfrey Bloom, is he not Nigel Farage's colleague?
Let me check here.
Is he in the European Commission?
Is he a representative from the UK? Yeah, he's a member of Parliament.
The UK Parliament.
I mean the EU Parliament.
EU Parliament, yeah.
Let me just check.
I think he's with the UK Independent Party.
Is it here?
European Parliament.
Yeah, UKIP. So I don't know where Nigel is.
We haven't seen Farage for a while.
He's been campaigning for something.
Oh, yeah.
Well, he's campaigning to win, I think.
He wants to get votes to overturn the EU. Yeah.
Yeah, well, that's not going to happen.
Well, here's his...
Not according to Godfrey.
Well, Mr.
President, I'm minded, actually, to quote the great American philosopher Murray Rothbard here, that the state is an institution of theft writ large.
Tax is just about a system where politicians and bureaucrats steal money from their citizens to squander in the most disgraceful manner.
This place is no exception.
Wait for it.
Fascinatingly, and I really don't know how you manage to keep a straight face when you're talking about tax evasion.
The whole Commission and the Commission bureaucracy avoid their taxes.
You don't pay taxes like citizens pay taxes.
You have all sorts of special deals.
Composite tax rates.
High tax thresholds.
Non-contributory pension schemes.
You are the biggest tax avoiders in Europe.
And here you sit pontificating.
Well, the message is getting home to the people of the European Union.
You're going to find that Eurosceptics are coming back in June in ever greater numbers.
In ever greater numbers.
And I can tell you worse, as the people get your number, it won't be long before they storm this chamber and they hang you and they'll be right.
Hee-hee!
I'm ready.
Wow, he's advocating hanging them.
That's fantastic.
The French Revolution.
I like it.
I think this guy's on to something.
They'll be right.
They'll be right.
Groovy.
Well, just before it happens tomorrow...
Let me ask you this.
Do you have any idea?
You lived in the UK. Why are these two UK Independent Party people the representatives here in the Parliament of the EU? Why isn't somebody from the Labour Party?
Or somebody from the Conservative Party?
Or somebody from the Tories?
I mean, why are these guys, both of them, the Independent Party, which is an offshoot?
They're a very minor party.
Whoa, that's not true.
They're the number two party.
I think they could sweep the elections.
Yeah, but they weren't the number two party when they were picked to do this job.
True.
I don't know how this works.
I really don't have an answer.
You're asking me EU questions, which I don't really have answers to.
But I also never really...
Paid that much attention to how it works in the UK. I'd like to find out.
We must have a listener that knows the answer that we can't get from the Wikipedia.
Why is Farage and this character, what's his name?
Godfrey Bloom.
Bloom.
Why is Farage and Bloom, why are these two guys there in the first place?
I mean, I think it's great because they sit there and they just ridicule everybody and make very funny speeches.
I'm pretty sure there are elections, local elections, to vote in members of European Parliament.
And it's not, you know, I think it's pretty easy to manipulate that because not a lot of people really know about it.
Or possibly this explanation.
They're the only guys who ran because nobody wants this job, although it seems like a cushy job to me.
Yeah.
I don't know.
Unfortunately, I really don't have the answer.
We'll have to look into this.
We have a lot of things to look into.
There is a lot of work to be done, for sure.
For sure.
Caught a little funny thing on CNN. Brooke Baldwin and Jake Tapper.
Now when I look at these two, I thought Jake Tapper had some pull over there.
Like he was kind of the guy.
Because he was all big ABC and kind of happening.
But they treat him like crap over there.
Brooke Baldwin, who, to me, she's like, what is she?
She's just, you know, a news model.
Listen to this cock-up on the air.
So apparently CNN's not even live anymore.
And somehow they aired the unedited tape where they picked up the segment and did it over again.
But listen to how Brooke talks to Tapper.
And Jake joins me now to talk about these presidential journeys.
So, Jake Tapper, first let's just begin with what more do you know about what happened on board Air Force One?
Well, according to Mike Duffy and Nancy Gibbs' book, The First President's Club, or rather just The President's Club, the two men, Ford and Carter, bonded a lot on that 1981 trip about a few things they had in common.
They hated fundraising, and they were still having to fundraise because they were raising money.
Hang on, hang on, Tapper.
Sorry, let me cut you off.
I'm sorry, I should have been more clear.
Let's begin with the Air Force One.
Did you see pool notes for this particular trip?
Yes, with the current.
Oh, yeah, okay.
Yeah, let's begin with that, and then I will ask you a follow, and we'll talk about Anwar Sadat's funeral.
What?
Yeah, she didn't cut that out?
That was all notes.
Yeah.
It should have been off the air.
Yeah, no, that's how it aired, and then he starts over.
Here it comes.
Okay.
Okay.
And Jay joins me now to talk about these presidential journeys.
Wow.
Isn't that great?
That is incompetence.
That's unbelievable.
It's not like that doesn't happen.
That's how it happens.
That's how television is made.
That's the sausage right there.
That's the way it works, but that's not what you put on the air.
I know.
Well, apparently the editors at CNN don't watch CNN either.
Whatever.
Just put it out.
It's fine.
But the way she's like, hey, Tapper, I'll do this.
How do you do that?
Kind of interesting, isn't it?
I think it's the same woman that's that, and I don't have the clip with me, I'll dig it up for Sunday, who called Raul Castro the son of Fidel Castro.
No.
What a moron.
There's a report with it.
First, there's the Latino correspondent, and she's talking to him, and I think it's the same woman.
And she says, what about Raul's dad?
Oh, no.
The guy never corrects her, this Latino guy.
He doesn't say anything.
He doesn't know.
What old dad Fidel would do for Raul, the kid.
It was like, wow!
I got no idea.
They have no idea, John.
It's moronic.
Tomorrow will be December 14th.
Tomorrow will be the one-year anniversary of Sandy Hook.
Of course, Sandy Hook...
It's very interesting.
This is the Newtown Massacre.
And by the way, the theme, whenever you say Sandy Hook, you have to say, which killed 20 first graders and six educators.
That's the way you say it.
That is the official talking point.
Twenty first graders and six educators.
And a partridge in a pear tree.
Here's a couple reports.
And of course, the first thing we said when we analyzed this is, this is going to be a war on crazy.
So the war on guns is obvious.
And I have a clip from the smart gun laws, Mothers Against Guns, which is all about getting...
Women of America to never ever vote for the Republican Party ever again.
We have pretty much proven that throughout the past year on this show.
But now we're moving towards the war on crazy.
Even though we really don't have any evidence other than hearsay, we don't even know what psychotropics, if at all, but I believe he was of course taking them, Adam Lanza was taking, if he even did any of this.
We know he had blacked out windows in his room.
But the idea now is to talk about mental health care and, you know, these people are crazy and you can't have access to guns if you're crazy and where this will result.
And this will happen before this podcast is taken off the air, which eventually we will get taken off the air.
It will result in, well, you know, you have mental health issues.
You shouldn't be around children.
Yeah, you really shouldn't have a driver's license.
You watch.
This is where it's going.
Well, not only that, they also have the sexual list where the guy pees in the park.
He's on the sex offenders list.
Sex offenders, yes.
Every town will have them of all the sex offenders.
And the crazies.
And the crazies.
Yeah.
So here is CBS, and Vice President O'Biden has put a stake in the ground in this, and of course this is all centering around the December 14th date, which is tomorrow, and of course Newtown wants peace.
They're all over Washington, they're all in the news, but we don't want anyone showing up, please.
This afternoon families of some of the victims will be at the White House meeting with Vice President Biden.
This morning a White House official confirms that Biden will announce $100 million in new funding for mental health services.
By the way, this $100 million comes from the Affordable Care Act.
Interestingly enough.
And the Department of Agriculture.
I'm not quite sure where that money is from, but that's where the money is coming from.
And in Newtown, there will be no official ceremony for the 26 students and staff killed in the attack.
Local officials are taking the unusual step of asking the public and the press to please stay away.
Have we ever had this in...
This seems a little unprecedented to me, John.
Yeah, they always have a memorial.
Because 9-11, no one is saying, go away.
No, it's like, please come so we can remember, memorialize, never again.
Everywhere that I can recall, even...
How about...
What was the other big school shoot?
What about Columbine?
Yeah, don't they memorialize that every year?
They didn't tear the school down.
Yeah.
Why is that?
Did you see the pictures that were floating around the internet of supposedly the crime scene pictures from Sandy?
Those are the same pictures that we put in our show notes of the compressed PDF document, which has nothing.
It shows a blown out window at the front of the school and nothing.
Yeah.
All it shows was the blown out window.
Oh, there's a bullet hole somewhere, which I think was from the blown out window.
That's it.
That's all there was.
And then examples of doorknobs, not even the real doorknobs.
No, it's crazy.
This is so counterintuitive, and we have to buy into this all of a sudden.
So remember, we don't want the tapes played, the tapes, the recordings.
Which we played on our show.
And it turns out they're boring.
That's why.
There's nothing to it.
You don't really get freaked out by listening to it.
We don't want anyone talking.
Don't go there.
Yet everyone is in Washington talking and raising money, and we'll get into that in a second.
Elaine Cajano is with us.
Elaine, good morning.
Good morning.
Newtown's leaders say the community is still very much dealing with the aftermath of those horrific events last year.
They want the general public to give them a little breathing room in order to mourn, reflect on the past year, and remember the lives lost on that day.
One by one, victims' families spoke about how they will commemorate the anniversary.
We will be lighting a candle on behalf of Jessie McCord-Lewis.
We will be lighting a candle in honor of our beautiful girl, Grace.
We'll be lighting a candle for our beautiful daughter, Anna.
We will light a candle for my mom, Dawn Hawksprung.
The family's also unveiled a new website, mysandyhookfamily.org.
Now, this is an issue.
There are so many non-profits for Sandy Hook.
And here's yet another one.
If you go to mysandyhookfamily.org...
It promotes My Sandy Hook Family Fund, the Sandy Hook Ground Project.
None of these have a Form 990 entry anywhere, which is possible because they're only a year old.
But there's lobbying groups.
There's got to be...
There's Where Angels Play.
There's got to be a hundred different of these organizations.
What is going on with this?
I don't know, but play...
I think it's jump to the chase and play the dementia clip.
The first Group of Eight Dementia Summit will be held in London on Wednesday.
Health ministers and researchers will discuss global action to deal with the rapid increase in dementia cases.
The summit will also bring together officials from the World Health Organization and pharmaceutical companies.
British Prime Minister David Cameron requested the meeting.
Yeah, this is not good.
The war on crazy.
The war on crazy.
Here's NBC with a similar report.
When Jeremy Richman and his wife lost their daughter, Aviel, the two scientists started a foundation.
Another foundation.
This is the Aviel Foundation.
Reducing violence in our communities through brain health initiatives.
Dedicated to brain research.
For decades, critics have claimed a huge gap between the number of Americans who need mental health care and access to that care.
During the recession, state budgets were slashed by the billions.
But since last year's tragedy at Newtown, at least 37 states have increased spending on mental health programs.
Today, the federal government stepped up too, with Vice President Biden announcing $100 million.
To help community health centers across the country establish or expand behavioral health services and to improve mental health access in rural areas.
Sounds like a bonanza to me, John.
Well, they can't start manufacturing in this country anymore, so let's just start all these foundations.
It's really getting out of control.
This is a very important first step.
We still have a long way to go.
It's a drop in the ocean, but it's progress.
A report released two weeks ago concluded Newtown shooter Adam Lanza had significant mental health issues.
He refused treatment.
What contribution?
That's not true.
That is patently not true according to the report.
There was no refusal.
There was none.
The whole tragedy started with an angry thought in Adam's head.
He didn't have the tools.
Tools!
I don't know how to handle that.
So many Newtown families have told me they hope this is just the beginning.
Politically, mental health care may be easier to change than gun laws, but they'd also like to see change there, too.
Despite all the calls for change after Newtown, it's worth noting there have been 16 more school shootings since then, Brian.
Do they really think they're going to get away with this?
Yes.
What the deal is, it's so obvious, because you mentioned the gun thing at the end, is everybody's nuts.
So nobody should be buying guns.
Yeah.
That's exactly what it is.
I have a clip from this woman, Robin...
I forget her last name.
She's from the smart gun...
Law Center to Prevent Gun Violence.
I'm sorry.
And she's saying things, and this is a very interesting website, actually, if you look at it, smartgunlaws.org.
Now, this is the outfit that is doing both.
They kind of started out they really don't want, and again, no Form 990.
They've been around for many years.
Unless they're part of the Brady Center to Prevent Gun Violence, which they specifically don't say, they are not the same.
I can't find any of their financials, which is troubling because they have been around for several years according to their website.
Now, she is all over getting women to not vote Republican and also the crazy stuff.
Based on your report, do you think that some states are going to pass different legislation instead of waiting for Congress?
Again, where I point out this is stalled.
Absolutely.
I think that what you're going to see in 2014 is that similar to 2013, where our federal legislators are failing to act and to step up to protect our communities, state legislators and governors are stepping up to fill that gap.
Now be careful here, because when she says governors, now we're in the Governor's Association, which is that multi-billion dollar foundation, again, non-profit, that funded Common Core.
That's where all the money goes through, you see.
The money goes into the Governor's Association.
They're passing laws that protect communities, that make our streets safer, that make our schools safer, and they're getting support from their communities.
We know that 90% of Americans support these regulations.
Yes!
90%!
And, you know, somebody's needing to respond to that, and that's happening at the state level.
We know!
I like that.
Mark Kelly said 92% yesterday on National Treasure.
And he's building a fund, an anti-NRA lobbying fund.
This is all about these people having nothing better to do than raise money.
We've been absolutely so proud and thrilled with what's happened in the last year, and we look forward to continuing that.
A lot of people out there across this country that look at the constitutional amendment for the right to bear arms should be left up to states to have to figure out exactly what the laws mean.
John, as a constitutional lawyer, how does that work?
I have no idea.
It makes no sense.
I mean, it's pretty apparent what the Constitutional Amendment, Bill of Rights, I think is what it's called, says, which is you can't, the government, the federal government cannot pass any laws that have anything to do with this.
You're not infringe.
But he's saying it's up to states.
He's saying it's up to states?
States can do whatever they want.
Right.
So this is interesting.
So the tactic now...
But the point is that they always could.
This is not new.
Right.
Why are they making a big deal out of it?
Like some new thing?
No, I think it's because they figured out that they can get everything done through this association of governors.
And Bill Gates and Buffett and all these guys pour all the money in there.
Look, they changed education right under our noses.
With Common Core.
Yeah, pay attention to this.
For those individuals.
But we have the advocacy group Moms Demand Action for Gun Sense in America releasing a PSA in time for the...
God, I'm tired of this.
I don't want to hear about it anymore.
Crazy.
PSA. Yeah, PSA. I know.
I know.
Okay, this does come along with...
This is the craziest thing I've seen.
And I have maybe a controversial way of looking at this, but here is a mother, I think, who is completely taking advantage of her son and turning it into a career.
Mind-boggling.
This is the story of My Princess Boy...
I'm a princess boy, and I love wearing glasses, and I love the colors of pink and red.
I'm a princess in a castle.
For Little Dyson, now five, this is part of his everyday play.
But for his mom, Cheryl Killer Davis, it took some getting used to.
My initial reaction was to redirect, play with the truck, or read certain books.
When Dyson wanted to be a princess for Halloween, Cheryl initially resisted, but soon changed her mind.
My older son, Kobe, said, Mom, why can't you just let him be happy?
And at that moment, I knew that this was more my issue.
If Kobe could be a ninja, why couldn't he be a princess?
Are you understanding what's happening here?
Because you're not seeing the video, obviously.
I think this was a while ago when this person first showed up.
Yeah, it's a little boy who wants to dress.
This has been an ongoing theme.
We've talked about this before.
There were other kids that were older that were into this.
Or the kid who got lit on fire in the Bay Area because he wears a dress.
Mm-hmm.
Uh, yeah, yeah, no, there's a little boy who wants to be a princess, and that's...
Right, but what happens is...
And she's like, you're right, she's exploiting him, she's on the news.
Oh, no, she's not just on the news.
If you go to myprincessboy.com, Cheryl Kilodavis, Kilodavis, whatever, however you pronounce it, she is now a consultant...
And you can book her for speaking here.
Booking Cheryl.
Here you go.
So she wrote a book called My Princess Boy.
And I guess it's selling quite well.
Listen to the last minute of this, because there's some experts that come in.
I have a bit of an issue with what's going on here.
Since then, they've allowed their youngest son to explore his interest in all things dressy and sparkly.
He's not contagious.
He's just like any other kid.
He plays checkers.
He plays in the trees.
He just likes to do it in a dress.
Big deal.
He likes pretty things.
Pink is his favorite color.
The experience led Cheryl to self-publish a book, My Princess Boy, which he wrote as a tool to encourage acceptance of Dyson and his dresses.
A store clerk once said to me, are you really going to buy that for him?
And I said, can you just read this book for 60 seconds?
And after she read it, she apologized.
Word spread.
Their story appeared on a local TV talk show and in People magazine.
Soon, a major publisher picked up My Princess Boy, which landed in bookstores across the country just before Christmas.
I think it's fantastic, and I think that what it tells us is that these boys, their parents, and the social world is no longer the same.
There is an audience for this book, and there are people who need this kind of information and this kind of help.
Okay, a couple things I want to say.
First, on her website, myprincessboy.com, bring Cheryl to you.
Cheryl is a world-renowned speaker with a lifelong mission to foster conversations about acceptance.
She speaks at colleges and universities, school districts, conferences, child organizations, Fortune 500 companies, government agencies, libraries, etc., etc.
Cheryl speaks and facilitates workshops around the following topics.
Parenting, equality, anti-bullying, cultural diversity, LGBTQ acceptance, female empowerment, gender diversity, gender expression, biracial.
It just goes on and on and on.
And I don't know how old this kid is now.
But I think...
I know so many parents who say, hey man, what's wrong with my son?
He wants to play with Barbies and kitchen stuff and whatever.
All boys go through this.
But I think to present this and put the kid on TV in his dress and...
I don't feel...
It feels dirty what she's doing.
It doesn't feel right because she's making a career out of this.
And it's disturbing.
Am I off base?
It's not solely disturbing.
You know, it's like, I can almost see it like, okay, time to get on the dress now because we're going to go on TV on the Today Show.
What is the point?
We all need to love each other?
Is this how we have to understand it?
How it has to be explained to us?
There's something big going on.
But part of it's bullying, I'm sure.
That's why she speaks on bullying.
Because none of this can happen when there's bullies.
Bullies are like the guys who enforce the social contract.
They make everybody's life miserable.
You know, but that's what they do.
But they're now an element of society that has to be banished.
So now you can have all kinds of fun without anybody telling you.
I mean, we're not talking about just people that beat kids up because they think it's funny.
We're talking about people that berate people or people that, you know, have something negative to say.
I mean, bullying has been redefined to being a critic.
I mean, it was kind of these anti-hate laws like the one in England that we cited at the beginning of the show is essentially an anti-bullying law.
Yeah.
So there's a lot going on here, and it has mostly to do with manipulation and Killing freedom of speech so you can manipulate the public for some whatever evil purposes.
I think the whole idea is you can't talk.
It would be completely incorrect to go on mainstream media and say, hey, this is out of order, lady.
That's the thing that bothers me.
It's like, oh, if he wants to dress up, of course he can dress up if he wants in a dress, whatever, but don't force this kid to go on every single show.
I mean, their media page has 20 shows they've been on to promote this book and her career.
And every kid should, of course, be allowed to explore their sense of fashion and sexuality or whatever, but this is exploitation, and I'm calling her out on it.
It's exploitation.
There's no other way.
Well, the husband should be called out, too.
What do we know about him?
Nothing.
Yeah, besides not doing anything.
Yeah.
All right, we've got to wrap up because I've got to take a shower and get to the wedding.
So the question I had is, are you sitting there in your tuxedo ready to go, or I guess not?
I'm in a purse suit, and that's that.
Okay.
All right.
Well, would you please congratulate the lovely couple on behalf of everyone here in the Travis Heights hideout?
And wish them Mazel Tov!
You're doing a traditional Jewish wedding, I presume?
No, it's a non-denominational wedding.
Just kidding.
Yeah, we have to stomp on a glass.
Yeah, exactly.
I think that's Greek.
Yeah, there's some Greek dishes around.
And we'll be back on Sunday.
We look forward to a report of the nuptials and all the excitement.
Which you will give us, I hope?
Oh, yeah.
I'll give you a blow-by-blow.
Blow-by-blow.
All right.
And, well, hopefully we can get your rig set up again.
We'll work on it.
All right.
Just out of the blue.
And as promised, I'll play the Gitmo Nation national anthem at the end of the show here, for those of you looking forward to it.
Bring it on!
Looks like we have, for Sunday, more reports from Ukraine.
And anything else you have?
Mexico, perhaps, if you know what's going on?
France.
France.
Don't forget France.
Thinking about working on Sunday, it's a scandal.
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