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	I don't want to build a raspberry pie.
	Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak.
	It's Sunday, October 6th, 2013.
	Time for your Gitmo Nation media assassination episode 554.
	This is no agenda.
	Sporting my ACL RFID slave bracelet in the Travis Heights hideout.
	Capital of the Drone Star State, Austin Tejas.
	In the morning, everybody.
	I'm Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley, where a wet bird doesn't fly at night, I'm John C. Dvorak.
	Okay, so your Russian counterparts have heard the code?
	Exactly.
	The wet bird does not fly at night.
	What is that?
	It's a Shecky Green reference from the old-timers out there.
	Wow.
	I don't think I've ever heard Shecky Green.
	Yeah, Shucky Green, yeah.
	He was one of the guys that was, I think the mob had gotten, something happened, he was doing some material.
	This is guys from the 50s, 60s, 70s.
	And he, I guess he insulted some mob boss.
	And that was the end of him?
	No, it didn't kill him, but it didn't help his career much.
	I want to say, John, right at the top of the show here, and I've been saying this since our last broadcast, Thank you for your courage.
	Oh yeah, thank you for your courage.
	This has become quite the meme, by the way.
	You caught it again?
	Well, no, people keep emailing me like, hey, Adam, thank you for your courage.
	And we have a new month.
	I kind of skipped over it on Thursday's show.
	But we have a lot of, this is not just a special month.
	It's a special week.
	We've got special days.
	Most of these by presidential proclamation, I thought I would run down the list.
	We're missing out.
	Back on the stick.
	So first of all, apparently in Finland they also proclaim days and months.
	Today is National Day of Older Persons Day in Finland.
	So we want to say hey-o to all the old folks listening to the show in Helsinki.
	And it's also Speech Pathology Week in Finland.
	And I was surprised.
	I thought only the American president could proclaim days and months.
	Well, we could do it too.
	Apparently.
	So, by presidential proclamation, today is German-American Day.
	That's good to know.
	And do you know that there's a lot of Germans in Texas?
	It wouldn't surprise me.
	No, but we have entire communities.
	We have towns called like Pflugerville and...
	Pflugers.
	Yeah.
	And we have a very famous amusement park not too far.
	I think between Austin and San Antone called Schlitterbahn.
	It's like this big water park.
	There's tons of Germans.
	There's like a whole settlement of Germans in Texas.
	I wonder what the deal is.
	They moved here in the 1800s, and they still speak German, some of them, or kind of a Texarkana German thing.
	It's very strange to be driving to San Antonio to see all these German names of towns pop up.
	It's a very weird thing.
	But we will move on.
	There's actually, before you go on, there's actually something called a German Texan.
	It's in the Wikipedia.
	German Texans are an ethnic category belonging to residents of the state of Texas who acknowledge German ancestry and self-identify with the term.
	From the first immigration to Texas in the 1830s, the Germans tended to cluster in ethnic enclaves.
	The majority settled in broad, fragmented belt across the south part of the state.
	I told you.
	In 1890, about three million Texans considered themselves to be at least part German.
	Yeah.
	Well, one of our friends is German-Mexican, which is even crazier.
	We went to his house, and he's got beer steins from his family, and he's cooking tacos.
	It's weird.
	The whole thing, it's a mind-meld.
	Fleet Admiral Chester W. Nimitz Whose grandfather had joined the Adelswerin that settled Fredericksburg.
	Yeah, there you go.
	Fredericksburg, another German name.
	Yeah, named after King Frederick.
	Yeah.
	And his buddy Berg.
	Or Chancellor Frederick.
	Frederick the Elder.
	Frederick the Minor.
	I don't know.
	He was a baseball player, actually.
	I'm sorry, go on.
	That's alright.
	Child Health Day, John.
	We just missed that just a couple days ago, a presidential proclamation.
	Also, it is fire prevention week.
	Oh, that must have been when they were celebrating shooting at that mom.
	Hey, we saved the kid, didn't we?
	And the kid didn't get shot, even though...
	We'll talk about that.
	Yeah, we'll talk about...
	I've got to get through this list.
	But yes, obviously, in observance of Child Health Day, we didn't shoot the kid.
	So I would say, well done.
	It is also Fire Prevention Week.
	Smokey the Bear says only you can prevent forest fires.
	National Disability Employment Awareness Month.
	Which is kind of a weird one.
	National Disability Employment Awareness Month.
	I guess you're supposed to be like, hey, if you're invalid, then you can't get a job, and I'm well aware of it.
	I'm not sure what I'm supposed to be thinking of that.
	Sorry?
	I don't know.
	This makes sense to me.
	How many things can this month be?
	National Arts and Humanities Month.
	National Domestic Violence Awareness Month.
	Oh.
	Yeah, month, yeah.
	That was National Domestic Violence Month.
	It is.
	National Domestic Violence Awareness Month.
	Awareness is different.
	So you can beat up your wife, just as long as you're aware you're doing it.
	National Substance Abuse Prevention Month.
	Well, hello, Silk Road.
	There you go.
	We could have seen that coming.
	National Energy Action Month.
	You think someone's paying for this?
	In that case, yes.
	Let me see.
	To meet the challenges of the 21st century, you must work to ensure a clean, safe, and sustainable energy future.
	The National Energy Action Month, we can build on the progress we have made by recommitting to increasing our energy security, strengthening our economy, combating climate change, and improving the environment.
	Okay.
	It is also National Breast Cancer Awareness Month.
	And finally, my favorite, which means something is bound to happen in October, National Cybersecurity Awareness Month.
	Huh?
	If I were a part of that, I'd say this would be the great month to have something happen.
	Ooh!
	And I almost forgot.
	National Bullying Prevention Month.
	Yeah, no, I noticed that when I tweeted about it.
	I said this National Bullying Prevention Month, go beat up a bully.
	Is that what you're supposed to do?
	I think so.
	That'll prevent bullying.
	So it's a big goings-on here in Austin, John.
	We have our annual ACL, Austin City Limits, big festival, music festival here in Austin.
	I thought that was a weekly show on PBS. Yes, it is a weekly show on PBS, but the Austin City Limits is an annual concert.
	It's two weekends, so it's started on Friday, and then it'll kind of lull down a little bit, and it'll kick up again on Friday, and all the big names are in town.
	Miss Mickey and I actually went out to the event, and we're not really festival-goers.
	But the thing that's a little annoying is you're tagged, essentially.
	You're tagged like a cow?
	Yeah.
	You get this three-day pass, and they're very specific about what you can do.
	You have to put it on so that it can't come off.
	It's an RFID tag.
	And it has, you know, you can't cut off the excess ribbon, which is really, it's kind of dangerous because, you know...
	Antenna.
	Of course it's the antenna.
	It's obvious.
	So you're like, oh, you can't cut that off.
	We'll invalidate your badge.
	And literally, you're walking into the fairgrounds in Zilker Park.
	Why does anybody put up with this crap?
	Yeah, I don't know.
	I mean, I'm putting up with it just because I wanted to go, but it's quite annoying.
	The way it works, you have to register your pass.
	And so you have to register it to your name for some reason.
	I guess if they want to check that it's really yours or whatever.
	And then they immediately give you an option to link to Facebook, which of course I did not do.
	But all weekend I've been watching, and I'm seeing people, you know, automatic tweets go out say, Hey, you want some VIP treatment?
	I'm over here at the Samsung tent at ACL. So these things are being detected by individual tents, and then they're...
	Putting out Facebook status messages.
	They're pulling a four square on you.
	Yes, but with the RFID tag on your wrist.
	It's a slave bracelet.
	Unbelievable.
	That's a good reason.
	Another good reason not to use Facebook.
	No, and I asked him, did you tweet this?
	Did you put that on Facebook?
	No.
	Did you realize?
	Yeah, and I actually was able to track one guy, and I guess the way Facebook works, it made it look like he was online even.
	So he was just going from tent to tent, and he kept posting messages to where he was.
	This is not good, man.
	I think you should take that thing and attach it to a dog.
	Well, the thing that's not good is this guy's a drug dealer.
	I'm like, man, you really don't want this.
	You should take that thing off when you're in the fairground.
	And then I wanted to share one thing with everybody.
	This guy's a drug dealer.
	Yeah, both.
	Thank you.
	Holy crap.
	There go one, two, three, four.
	There's about 100 motorcycles going down the freeway.
	Yeah.
	Are they rice burners or are they Harley's?
	I can't tell.
	Too far away.
	And I just wanted to share one thing with everybody.
	We were invited by Eric, the lawyer who's going to go to the Supreme Court.
	Yeah.
	He and his wife, I guess they built the Zack Theater here in Austin.
	I don't know.
	Their name is on the steps.
	Let's put it that way.
	And so they invited us to the opening of Les Miserables.
	Oh, but it's real.
	I've always wanted to see Les Miserables in Austin, Texas.
	So it is the Broadway production, I will point out.
	Yeah.
	And I couldn't even sit through the movie at home.
	At home, I was like, I can't watch this anymore.
	So I was like, oh, okay.
	But, you know, I want to go to the Supreme Court, you know, so I don't want to, like, be a downer on the guy and his whole, like, Les Mis thing.
	So, you know, we had a couple drinks.
	We head off.
	I got to tell you, I thoroughly enjoyed myself.
	Yeah, you were plastered.
	Well, not totally, but it was really...
	It doesn't take much for you.
	That's true.
	But I really enjoyed the show.
	We're like third row center, so it's almost like the actors are literally singing to you, so it couldn't have been much better.
	The only problem is, and we've been discussing this, is how you get songs stuck in your head.
	Oh, you got a song stuck in your head?
	Oh.
	Master of the house, doling out the charm, ready with a handshake and an open palm.
	I want everyone to have that.
	That's horrible, horrible.
	No, you won't get that stuck in anyone's head.
	Yes, yes.
	It doesn't have enough of a tune.
	Oh, it's Master of the house, doling out the charm, ready with a handshake and an open palm.
	Oh, man.
	And it's like, and I'll be, and now Mickey is now like reminding me of the song every five minutes.
	Just when I'd gotten rid of it.
	It's a horrible song.
	Well, you're the master of the house.
	Yes.
	Doling out the charm.
	And we'll see a little of that.
	But that's another story.
	Anyway, so that's a brief update here from the Travis Heights hideout.
	I have my slave bracelet on, displaying it proudly.
	And I shall slap it on a dog before we leave tonight.
	After the show, we're going to go back.
	Yeah, well, I went to the Oakland A's playoff game.
	Oh, really?
	And it was a great game.
	It was a pitching duel.
	Some kid named Sonny Gray, who's just a terror, and Verlander, the great pitcher from Detroit, they just pitched a duel, 0-0 for nine innings.
	And then at the bottom of the ninth, the A's won.
	But here's the thing that got me.
	A pitching duel, which is where it's just getting everybody out, and there's no scores, right?
	Uh-huh.
	I remember when I was a kid, I would go see an A's game with Catfish Hunter, who actually was one of the world's greatest pitchers.
	And the game, not a lot of times, but many times, the game would be, the whole game, with scores, under two hours.
	This game was a pitcher's duel, which means there wasn't a lot of, you know, it was just getting people up and out.
	Lots of outs, lots of strikeouts.
	Three and a half hours.
	That seems a little excessive.
	It seems more than a little excessive.
	And here's the problem.
	Because it was broadcast on TBS, one side would be out and the other picture would come out, and you'd wait five minutes.
	Ah, commercial break.
	Of course.
	Yes, yes, yes.
	Now, this has ruined live football for me.
	People invite me.
	They say, hey, would you like to come to the game?
	I've got a box with hookers.
	No, I won't go.
	No.
	It's a professional football game.
	The guy punts the ball, boom, five minute commercial break.
	The guys, you know, they're going to punt the ball, they take a timeout.
	I've always wondered how they coordinate that between the...
	So who really calls those shots?
	How do they call down to the field and say, okay, you've got to hold on for a second because we're in a commercial break or we're going to commercial break.
	Do they all have IFBs in so they're running like, oh, hold on a second?
	I think it's the head referee in a football game and he will call timeout when they...
	The ball's exchange, the team's exchange possession, and then they've stopped the clock on the change of possession, and he just calls a timeout, and it's a commercial timeout, and they just stay on.
	So you're sitting in the stands, and you're just watching these guys.
	There could be something going on.
	It could have been a game that was pretty well-paced, and now they stop, and you wait.
	One minute, two minutes, three minutes.
	You're waiting minutes and minutes, four minutes.
	And then they go, then they hike the ball.
	And then if something, like the guy fumbles, they'll stop it again and they'll play a bunch of commercials.
	This is ruining the games.
	These games are being ruined by this crap.
	And I didn't ever expect to see it in baseball to this extreme.
	There was no commercial timeouts during La Miserable.
	Yeah, well, maybe people start going to the theater against these television games, these televised games.
	Anyway, so I was a little annoyed, but it was an outstanding performance by the teams.
	So we both had a little bit of relief from the onslaught of mainstream bull crap that was coming through all the tubes and the pipes.
	Actually, right after we were still doing our Thursday show, when we had this, I'm just calling it Capital Shield exercise, because there was a drill, as you know, John, called Capital Shield, where everyone in the nation's capital was on heightened alert.
	And, of course, we have this incident, which is, the details, no one really has any details.
	No, I've got the longest, probably best report, which says vest report on the clip list because I don't do any...
	Vest?
	From NBC. I don't even have that.
	It says drugged woman vest report on NBC. These are the drugged woman reports.
	Right, but just when you say it says vest report, I'm looking at the V, but it's not.
	It says drugged, so I have to look at the D. Yeah, drugged woman.
	So let's play that and this will give us the background to bounce some stuff off of.
	Good evening.
	Brian, good evening.
	Investigators say that Miriam Carey went downhill after having her baby, suffered postpartum depression, and then began having delusions and was hospitalized at one point.
	They say she believed that the federal government had her under surveillance and that President Obama was communicating with her.
	Before we move on with this, I just want to point out that we predicted this was going to happen.
	Is this not part of the war on crazy, John?
	It is part of the war on crazy.
	I consider it part of the war on whatever drugs they had around that she stopped using.
	Obviously.
	Let's continue.
	After searching Miriam Carey's condo in Stamford, Connecticut and talking with relatives, investigators say she had been diagnosed with depression and psychosis, but had recently stopped taking her medications.
	They say travel records show she drove directly from there to Washington.
	Oh, stop, stop.
	Travel records?
	She's in the car.
	Stop.
	Travel records?
	What is this?
	Toll roads?
	Yeah, it would be toll roads.
	License plate scanners?
	Yeah, it would be that too.
	Cell phone records?
	Yeah.
	Can you go back and start that part over because there's a very interesting little grammatical thing in there that I found interesting.
	And then began having delusions and was hospitalized at one point.
	They say she believed that the federal government had her under surveillance and that President Obama was communicating with her.
	After searching Miriam Carey's condo in Stamford, Connecticut and talking with relatives, investigators say she had been diagnosed with depression and psychosis but had recently stopped taking her medications.
	Instead of saying Ann had stopped taking her medications, they say but...
	Ah, yes.
	So she was diagnosed...
	Bad, bad slave.
	If you listen to the way this is presented, it's that she was diagnosed with depression and psychosis, but had stopped taking her medications.
	So all was well.
	So her diagnosis was with her on the medications.
	It sounds like to me, right?
	Yeah, she was psychotic because of the med she was taking.
	Good.
	I like that.
	She had stopped it.
	Not and she had stopped taking.
	She didn't use the word and.
	But!
	It was but!
	Which means, it sounds to me that they had her drugged.
	She went in, she had a baby, and she said, oh, you know, I don't feel good.
	Oh, you've got postpartum depression.
	Start taking whatever they start doping her with, which made her crazy.
	And then she stopped taking them and went even crazier because she said, wait a minute, I've been drugged all this time.
	It's got to be something to do with, I don't know, Obamacare.
	I don't know.
	Well, no, not Obamacare.
	I have some thoughts about this.
	Okay, well, let's play the rest of this because it really tells a pretty good story.
	But do you remember in the good old days when people just got psychotic from Shantix?
	That was easy.
	Yeah, we don't get enough Shantix stories anymore.
	Yeah, you just stop the Shantix and you start smoking again and everything went away.
	And now this stuff is with you forever.
	Travel records show she drove directly from there to Washington yesterday.
	The chaotic events begin here at one of the security checkpoints on the perimeter of the White House grounds.
	Investigators say at 2.12 in the afternoon, Miriam Carey's car turned into this driveway, hit some temporary fencing, and then started backing up, striking a Secret Service officer, causing minor injuries.
	No shots were fired here.
	From there, she speeds up Pennsylvania Avenue toward the U.S. Capitol, going 80 at one point.
	Police thought it was all over when she got to the foot of Capitol Hill, just below the U.S. Capitol, when they managed to get her stopped.
	But that's when it escalated.
	As they approached her car, she jammed it into reverse, striking one of the patrol cars and took off again.
	This time, police and Secret Service officers fired, trying to stop her.
	Nine shots, police say.
	But she kept driving, looping around traffic circles, and then on up past the Capitol building with bullet holes in her car visible.
	It ended on the other side of the Capitol from the White House.
	Police say Miriam Carey was coming up Constitution Avenue near the Senate office building when police again opened fire.
	They say she saw that these barriers that pop in the street had been raised, so she shifted into reverse to try to turn around, and police say in the course of that, she backed into this police guard booth.
	Seventeen shots at that location, police say.
	Only afterward did they discover that her one-year-old child was in the car unharmed.
	Chuck Wexler runs the Police Executive Research Forum.
	He says police are trained not to shoot at fleeing cars, but around the White House and the Capitol, he says, there's a constant worry about car bombs.
	You have improvised device, you have terrorism.
	Policing in Washington, D.C. is a lot more complicated.
	They have to protect the U.S. Capitol and the White House.
	They're concerned about terrorism.
	Well, one thing people often ask is, why not just shoot out the tires?
	These things happen very quickly.
	You had a situation where one police officer was already hurt.
	They tried to get into the White House.
	Now they're trying to get into the U.S. Capitol.
	These things happen almost instantaneously.
	Police will conduct an investigation to see if the use of deadly force was justified, a standard practice in an incident like this.
	Alright, now before you say anything about this, and I don't think you have this in your clips, what we have in basic information, we know that a woman with a child in the car was killed by Capitol Police, just shot to death in or outside her car.
	That's a little unclear.
	An unarmed woman.
	Or a mom with a one-year-old.
	This is what took place in the house not long after that.
	And the whole thing is five minutes.
	I only got a minute and a half or so of it just to give you an idea of how insane Washington, D.C. is.
	Mr.
	Speaker, I ask you to have his consent to speak out of order for one minute.
	The gentleman is recognized for one minute.
	Thank you, Mr.
	Speaker.
	At the outset, I know that I joined the majority leader in expressing our gratitude to the Capitol Police.
	Yes!
	This is a standing ovation!
	You killed a mom!
	Killed a bitch!
	Shot that bitch dead!
	Save the baby!
	Good work!
	Excellent!
	Oh, I never thanked him, yeah.
	Excellent!
	Wait, but it's not done yet!
	Yeah!
	Standing up as you killed a bomb!
	Kill her!
	Good work!
	This is not edited.
	This is the true length.
	Woo!
	Mr.
	Speaker, all too often we take for granted the folks who are prepared to put their own lives and safety at risk to save from harm's way, not only those of us who work on Capitol Hill, but those who visit their Capitol.
	We're protected!
	So I know that that...
	The round of applause was heartfelt and deeply meant.
	Thank you for your courage.
	We thank them, and I'll yield to the Majority Leader before I ask them the question on the schedule, but I yield to the Majority Leader.
	Yes, yes, thank you for your courage, sir.
	Mr.
	Speaker, I want to thank the gentleman for yielding and concur with his thanks to the Capitol Police.
	But I'm going to throw one on top.
	And as well, each and every day, all of us benefit from their dedication and commitment to our safety, the people who visit this Capitol and its surroundings.
	To their safety, and I know all of us want to extend that thanks, and just to let them know, we really appreciate it.
	Really, really appreciate it.
	Now, he yields back, but now this is, he's got to throw one on top.
	We go at more heroes we have who shot this unarmed mom.
	More heroes!
	I also, Mr.
	Speaker, I know, again, the Majority Leader, Mr.
	Sanford Bishop, who himself gave such a tribute at the beginning of the last bill to the Capitol Police, but also we want to thank the Sergeant at Arms, Paul Irving, and all of those who worked.
	Sergeant at Arms!
	Kill the mom!
	Save us!
	Save us, your leaders!
	Protect us!
	Protect us from the unarmed moms on psychotropic drugs!
	The zombies are at the gates!
	Thank you!
	Okay, I think you made your point.
	And there's three more minutes of that.
	It's disgusting.
	It's disgusting.
	They never said God bless them.
	And they never said anything about God bless the baby.
	Did you hear that...
	And by the way, before we go on about that...
	So the woman comes up to the Capitol steps.
	We have plenty of film of this, and she's surrounded by about six, seven, eight, nine.
	They couldn't block her in because they're incompetent.
	Let's start right there.
	They could have blocked her, but no, she backs up, and then she goes zooming off again.
	But they could have blocked her, and they didn't.
	And they're standing around holding guns on her, and she doesn't...
	They're close enough to see there's a baby in the car, but apparently nobody saw the baby.
	Let me ask you this.
	This is what I don't understand.
	This woman was shot dead with multiple gunshots, yet O.J. Simpson gets to just kind of cruise down the road going 35 miles an hour for hours on end?
	You know, it's like this makes no sense other than...
	And I think I have a note here from one of our producers who's in the D.C. area, which I'd just like to share with you.
	That will kind of explain, unfortunately, what we already thought.
	Hello, I read the newsletter John just put out for this upcoming show.
	I was happy to see that you guys will be discussing the incident on Capitol Hill.
	I live in the suburbs just outside D.C., so I'm very familiar with all the activity that goes on around here.
	I like to do volunteer work at my high school.
	It just so happens that one of the Capitol Police officers was on the scene of this incident also as a second job at my high school.
	I've known him for about two months now.
	The day after the shooting, I was at work and saw that he was there as well.
	A small group of us went over to greet him, and I said, wow, yesterday must have been very chaotic.
	We were around the police chase.
	He said that, in fact, he was on the scene.
	Then he took out his phone and showed us a picture.
	It was a picture of himself in uniform holding his AR-15 while he was yelling at someone.
	There was some sort of crashed vehicle or maybe the back end of an ambulance in the picture.
	For the whole day, everyone was treating him like a celebrity.
	While the group of us were dispersing, he said, I was trying so hard to shoot the bitch, but I just didn't have a shot.
	He said that, according to our guy?
	And our guy, I was very disappointed that he was such a trigger-happy cop, like the newsletter said.
	I have often had good encounters with the police around the city, but hearing him say that makes me think that they're extremely undertrained, and that is scary.
	I'd say not that.
	I'd say they're roided out.
	These guys are hyped up on all kinds of...
	They're on medication, too, you know.
	Not all of them, but I think a lot of these guys are on the road.
	They're shooting left.
	They can't hit the side of a barn, apparently.
	But this is the I was trying hard to shoot the bitch, but I didn't have a shot.
	If that is the attitude, woe is me.
	Yeah, that's bad.
	And did you know that this, I thought this was kind of funny, the cops were telling the, as congressmen and women were inside the building, I think somewhere also outside, the cops were telling them to take off their pins?
	Yeah, because there'd be targets.
	I had to actually have that clip.
	Oh, you do?
	Oh, I wonder, which one is it?
	Which one is it?
	I love that.
	That was, I was like, oh my God.
	Take off your pin!
	You'll be a target!
	Well, you can...
	I don't have a lot of this specifically, but the other clip I have.
	Drugged woman.
	This is the Nightline report.
	This may have that in it.
	Personnel carrier that came in about...
	Oh, yeah.
	Hold on.
	Hold on.
	We didn't get much of the reports of this.
	A personnel carrier came in.
	This is, like, unbelievable.
	This is Keystone Cops.
	A personnel carrier?
	Like one of those armored...
	Yeah.
	With dudes hanging off the side with those tall helmets?
	for a personnel carrier that came in about five minutes later.
	So heavy-duty stuff was there.
	Very heavy.
	Heavy-duty stuff.
	They were clearing the scene, and what added to the feel of it was the smell of gunpowder.
	I love the smell of gunpowder in D.C.
	Walking around the Capitol, we're told to hide their identities.
	Then very excitedly, a police officer comes running towards me.
	He saw my pin and he goes, are you a member of Congress?
	And I said, yeah, I am.
	He goes, let me see your identification.
	So I pulled out my identification.
	And he says, well, take your pin off.
	We wear these little pins around.
	And so he told me to take the pin off.
	He goes, could you be a target?
	And on the floor of the Senate, all proceedings are ordered to stop.
	We thought we heard shots, saw a lot of police cars, then we heard shots, and then the police told us to go back.
	We were simply walking back to our office.
	We heard pops that sounded like shots.
	The suspect was shot and taken to a nearby hospital where she died.
	A Capitol Police officer, injured when his car hit a Capitol barricade, was also hospitalized.
	Did you see that?
	I have the video of when that car hit the barricade.
	Yeah, that video's great.
	Oh my god, because all of D.C. apparently has these just barricades that pop out of the road.
	Yeah.
	Some cop going 80 miles an hour hits that thing as it's coming out and he was hurt.
	That car was destroyed.
	He was one of the cops that was injured.
	He wasn't anywhere near the action.
	By our own stupid security crap.
	Yeah, no.
	I'm surprised some cops didn't get shot by the other cops.
	Who knows?
	This is what's going to happen.
	We don't know anything.
	So here's what I got with one last thing about this.
	I want you to, and this is a little annoying, this is my annoyance of the day.
	Go to Google and type in Metropolitan, actually I did this on Bing.
	So you may have to do it on Bing to get the exact right page.
	But Metropolitan Police, type in Metropolitan Police DC, Kathy Lanier, C-A-T-H-Y-L-A-N-I-E-R, and go to her page, which is on the District of Columbia, One City, One Future, and it's got a picture of her.
	Now, she is the Chief of Police, and she came out with a statement.
	Yeah, this is the one that I thought was so interesting, the Navy Yard shooter.
	I have the clip of her on this one, and I thought it was pretty cold-blooded, but I'm going to ask you a question.
	This is almost an Ask Adam.
	Do you see her picture there?
	Yeah, I see her picture, yeah.
	Why has she got four stars like she's a general in the army and a bunch of those little badges?
	Yeah, she's got all kinds of cool stuff, doesn't she?
	She looks like Petraeus.
	I'm asking you, why?
	What is all these badges for?
	Let me look at images.
	Let me see what she's got.
	See if I can get a good close-up shot.
	She's got...
	Well, first of all, in a police state, this is kind of what you do.
	You need to have all...
	Wow.
	So on her...
	On her shirt, she's got the stars, but her jacket, I think they almost look like Star Trek insignias.
	Look at those things, man.
	I haven't gone to the...
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Now, I think she's very cute in a kind of a...
	When you see her in action, she's not cute at all.
	Yeah, but cop groupies.
	No, no, no.
	She's not even cop cute.
	She's got a fruit salad there, man.
	She's got all kinds of medals.
	She's a hero.
	Yeah, she's obviously a hero.
	She's the chief of police.
	She must be out there shooting it up with people.
	What is she, a fast draw artist?
	I mean, what's the deal?
	I mean, she's the chief of police.
	It's supposed to be a person behind a desk managing the police department.
	Did you consult the Book of Knowledge on her?
	Aha!
	Aha!
	See?
	You can't do that.
	Let's see.
	Let's see.
	Certainly there must be something about her valor, her medals.
	All the metal she has.
	Let's see.
	As a desk jockey.
	Well, let's see.
	She has a big giant thing on the one hand, which is the stylized bag.
	It's the Iron Cross is what she has.
	She has the Iron Cross, yes.
	She has the Iron Cross.
	I don't think she's ever had any other job but this.
	She dropped out of junior high school, ninth grade, became mother at the age of 15.
	Wow.
	Wow.
	Lanier came under fire in 2009 after claiming that motorists who use GPS and iPhone technology to avoid traffic cameras were employing a cowardly tactic.
	Ah, that's what she got the three ribbons on the left for, for that statement.
	Yeah.
	Well, anyway, here she is, which I thought would...
	This is the D.C. lady, chief of police clip, and I just thought she was just cold-blooded about the death of this unarmed mother.
	Different points.
	As of right now, we do know that there were shots fired in at least two locations during this pursuit.
	The pursuit was from 15th and E down to 100 block of Maryland Avenue.
	So the pursuit went several blocks, involved both United States Secret Service and United States Capitol Police.
	Right now the suspect in the vehicle we do know was struck by gunfire and at this point has been pronounced.
	So the suspect has been pronounced at this point.
	The child is approximately a year old and is in good condition and in protective custody.
	What kind of thing is this?
	She's been pronounced.
	Pronounced man and wife?
	Pronounced black?
	What's pronounced?
	Is she pronounced dead?
	Or has she died?
	Why don't they just say, she died.
	She died.
	D-I-E-D. Four letters.
	She's been pronounced.
	That's four letters with been and then pronounced.
	What kind of language is this?
	She's been pronounced.
	I think it's cavalier and sickening, to be honest.
	Is this not like NCIS talk?
	Isn't this kind of how they talk on television?
	They use this whack job code?
	This is a little beyond...
	No, I think...
	I don't watch those shows.
	Maybe those are all viewing medals.
	She's actually watched the entire series of NCIS. Here's a medal!
	And she gets a medal.
	And if she can recite at least five episodes, the plot and some of the lines, that's where she gets the Iron Cross from.
	And the guest song.
	They're viewing medals.
	Well, there were some cool things that happened as a part of this.
	One, of course, was the activation of the giant voice system in D.C....shelter in place.
	Close, lock, and move away from doors and windows.
	If you are outside of an office building, free cover away from the area.
	Additional information will follow.
	So this shelter in place...
	I don't know if you could hear that through the Skype thing, but...
	Yes, you can.
	Yeah, shelter in place has really become a meme that everyone just buys into immediately, which, of course, is now also being...
	You're being activated at airports when the TSA will all of a sudden tell you to stop and freeze and shelter in place and cower in the corner and all this nutty stuff.
	And this was the first time the giant voice system was activated on Twitter.
	Did you hear about this?
	Was it?
	Yeah, Twitter has an alert system.
	I didn't know this.
	I'll read from the reports here.
	Police closing...
	Oh, that's a caption.
	Okay.
	As people turned to Twitter to get updates on the shots fight at the Capitol, the office of the Senate Sergeant-at-Arms took advantage of a new Twitter tool that allows certain accounts, such as government offices, to send push notifications or text messages directly to the phones of followers who sign up to receive emergency alerts.
	And this service apparently started just September 24th.
	Oh, just in time.
	Yes.
	Just in time to be tested.
	So I'm looking at this.
	I'm like, I want this.
	And so I've looked it up.
	The alerts, Twitter said, are meant for crisis, disaster, and emergency communications.
	And those enrolled in the program that want to send to Twitter followers.
	So essentially, if you have Twitter on your phone and we are a member of the program...
	Then we can tweet something very much like a bat signal.
	In fact, it is the no agenda bat signal they've stolen here, some kind of feature.
	Because when I send out a tweet, and anyone who is following, well, it's not through Twitter, it's through our No Agenda app, you get a notification, like your phone comes to life and tells you, you know, the bat signal that something's going on.
	But this is now a part of Twitter, and I want to apply, and it says, organizations must apply for participation in the program.
	Twitter said, once approved, they must increase the security on their Twitter accounts.
	Presumably to discourage hackers from being able to spam the user's phones.
	But I think we should get this.
	Twitter Alerts program is available to local, national, and international institutions that provide critical information to the public.
	That's us.
	I think so, too.
	The following have priority access to this feature.
	I don't think we get priority access.
	No, no.
	We're never going to get priority anything.
	Not even priority tickets on the plane.
	Priority access includes law enforcement, public safety agencies, emergency management agencies, city and municipal governments, county and regional agencies, select state, federal, and national agencies, and NGOs.
	We could always become an NGO, or we are kind of an NGO, just not non-profit.
	Before gaining access to Twitter alerts, organizations will be required to increase security of their Twitter account.
	Well, anyway, I think we should try and apply for this.
	Or at least have someone, one of our producers...
	Might as well.
	Yeah, why don't we have one of our producers apply for it?
	Someone who has...
	There's got to be someone out there who has an NGO that they can use.
	Yeah, I'm sure there's somebody.
	Yeah, let's go for it.
	You know what we need?
	We need pictures of us.
	In this type of outfit.
	With all the badges.
	With all the badges.
	All the viewing medals.
	You know, by the way, I'm looking at this.
	I'm looking at that picture.
	Then I see Chief Lanier dropped out of junior high school after the ninth grade and became a mother at age 15.
	That's what I just said, yeah.
	I missed that somehow.
	Yeah.
	No, you were looking at the motorcycles.
	No, no.
	Whatever the case, the motorcycles was way early in the show.
	So I didn't realize she was white trash, which explains her.
	Wait, just because you dropped out of school doesn't mean you're white trash.
	And had a kid at 15 and then talked like she does?
	Pronounced, pronounced?
	Sorry.
	I may be bigoted.
	I shouldn't say that.
	Yeah, I think you are somewhat bigoted.
	That is the American dream.
	This is the whole point.
	As a woman, remember she's also a woman, you can drop out of school, be a teenage mom, watch a lot of TV, and become chief of police.
	Well, you know you're right.
	You got me.
	It is the American dream much more so than just getting by.
	She didn't do that.
	So she's got something on the ball.
	And she worked in D.C. as a foot patrolman.
	Since she was promoted to sergeant.
	No, she worked her way up.
	Yeah, she worked her way up.
	In the oil refining business, it used to be called a stallion.
	It started at the bottom.
	She was an officer, then a sergeant, then a lieutenant, then a captain, then an inspector, then a commander, and then chief of police.
	In 2007, she's been doing that since.
	And she did go on to get all kinds of degrees.
	She's no slouch.
	She worked hard.
	I agree.
	I think the medals are a little bit much, but if they're viewing medals, then I'm okay with that.
	Yeah, she's viewing TV shows.
	Does she have the Kardashian badge of honor somewhere?
	I think that's in the third row.
	Wow.
	And there's two different versions of that.
	One, if you think that the girls have big butts, it's kind of a gold color.
	And then it has a blue stripe in it if you don't think they're really that big.
	So the meme went out pretty quickly, and something coming this quickly after the occurrence means that this is pretty much the talking points that are put out there.
	Here's Jake Tapper.
	So what could have made this woman seemingly snap?
	Investigators who searched for Stanford, Connecticut homes say they found medication to treat schizophrenia and bipolar disorder, and her boyfriend reportedly told police that she appeared to be, quote, delusional.
	Okay, then we have CNN who take it a step further.
	This evening, one clarification that we want to tell you about, we're now learning that authorities during the search of her Stanford, Connecticut department found discharge papers, and it was on those discharge papers that there were prescriptions written for two kinds of medications.
	One of the medications was to treat symptoms of bipolar disorder and schizophrenia.
	The other was Why don't they tell me what it is?
	This is what annoys me to no end.
	I think I know the answer, but I'd really like to know.
	Or an antidepressant.
	It's not clear whether there was actual medication there in the apartment, but we do know, according to a source...
	Wait a minute.
	Yeah.
	Oh, yeah.
	Yeah, the report said there was.
	Oh, yeah.
	Well, she said it's a clarification, so they're kind of doing their job.
	She called police saying that she was delusional, that she thought President Obama was surveilling her electronically, and whether this is why she decided to go down to Washington, to the White House, all of that under investigation right now.
	But again, there were certain things that were going on.
	The boyfriend said that she had been on some medications, but that she had stopped taking those medications.
	Think about it.
	She actually packed a bag, strapped her daughter in that car, and then drove hundreds of miles down to the White House, possibly to get an audience with the president.
	Okay, so this is all just spoon-fed by some agency or PR mechanism that just hands this over to people, because where is this boyfriend?
	You talk to the boyfriend, you got this information, why didn't you put him on camera?
	Who is this guy?
	What does he look like?
	What does he do?
	This is not true.
	This is almost like the Silk Road indictment.
	They got a piece of paper, everyone's copy-pasted this, and they're just repeating.
	They're just repeating.
	They have not spoken to anyone.
	This is not an actual news report.
	And I've been keeping this clip for, I don't know, three weeks now.
	You've been pulling this on every show, by the way.
	I know.
	I hate to do it.
	But this Assistant Attorney General...
	Actually, I'm glad I'm doing this.
	And I'm glad I didn't play it then.
	I'm playing it now.
	This is the Assistant Attorney General from Connecticut.
	Now, was this woman not from...
	Where was she from?
	Connecticut?
	Yep.
	Just pointing this out as a small coincidence.
	And this is about the refusal of the Connecticut officials to release the medical records on Adam Lanza, the Sandy Hook Newtown so-called school shooter.
	About what medications he was or was not on, if he was taking them or not taking them.
	Now, this is a one-minute clip.
	I'm going to play it because I want people to hear.
	It's very difficult to understand this guy.
	There's a couple of things.
	One, I believe he's blind, which is really weird when you watch the video.
	The video's in the show notes.
	But he also seems to be from the Caribbean.
	And this is the Assistant Attorney General to Connecticut.
	So you really have to get into focusing on what he's saying.
	You know how blind people sometimes have a strange cadence.
	That's why I bring that up when they speak.
	So try and listen to what he's saying about why they will not release these records.
	...of information.
	That information.
	You can't generalize just for one case.
	Even if you can conclusively establish that Adam Lanza, his...
	His murderous actions were caused by antidepressants.
	You can logically from that conclude that others would Commit the same actions as a result of taking antidepressants.
	So it's simply not legitimate.
	And not only is it not the use to which you're proposing to put the information not legitimate, it is harmful.
	Because then you can cause a lot of people to stop taking their medications, stop cooperating with their treating physicians.
	Just because of the heinousness of what Adam Lanza did.
	So what this guy is saying, in case it was too hard to understand.
	Let me see if I can get it right.
	Yes, please.
	What he's saying is that you don't want to...
	Well, here's what he's really saying.
	Let me just go right to the chase.
	What he's saying is they've come up with a combination of ingredients that if the public ever found out about this, for one thing, they'd stop taking it.
	Yeah.
	Because it makes you nuts.
	My interpretation is almost of this opinion.
	Which is that someone somewhere somehow has discovered a combination of ingredients that possibly make you suggestible and murderous.
	Is that a possibility?
	Because you'd want to keep that as secret.
	Well, I think it's binary.
	That's what I'm saying.
	You need a combination.
	Well, it's tertiary then.
	It's not just a combination of ingredients.
	Yes.
	Binary on the medication.
	Yes.
	But I think location has something to do with it.
	I have no evidence other than...
	Experiments taking place in Connecticut.
	And I think it has to do with either 4G or some kind of radio waves because you have this combination of ingredients which may by itself do nothing.
	But then something is flicked on, or intentional or not, and you can go insane.
	And it happened in Connecticut.
	Except in this case, this woman, she got in her car and drove down to D.C. and tried to ram something or whatever, and was clearly not thinking straight.
	Well, and now we take this to another step.
	We want to go in this kind of...
	Borderline crackpot.
	Here's the third one.
	And the government's not listening to you.
	The government listening is a great one.
	But we already know that's true.
	But the comment that you picked up on, and I will admit that I didn't pick up on it the first time I played the clip, Which was they had her travel records.
	So they had drugged this woman, they, whoever they are, and again, I'm just saying it's a possibility, and tracked her.
	Now, when they talk about travel records, they may have put a bug on her car or a tracking device so they can really see where she was going.
	And they knew when she started heading into D.C., that's why they had the alert.
	That's why within minutes there was a...
	that the guy mentions a personnel carrier within minutes of her showing up.
	And once the action began, the cops were on full alert, and they had to put a stop to her because they didn't know what she was going to do, and they didn't know if she was armed because they apparently didn't keep good enough, couldn't track it well enough to know that.
	And so then they probably didn't know.
	Obviously, they didn't know she had the baby.
	But there was way too much activity, and that's why I think they went to the congressman and said, you know, you could be a target.
	We don't know exactly what's going on here, but we do know we have a lunatic that the cops would never know.
	They said, somebody set off, let's say, from Connecticut.
	We'll have to keep an eye on this.
	Well, I mean, I think this is all supposition, but it's a little too weird.
	And that crappy clip you had, which was, you're right, you shouldn't have played it in the first place...
	That guy...
	The whole video is like an hour.
	Oh, it's horrible.
	I tried getting different...
	That's it.
	That's video.
	But he did say that, you know, we don't want to give out...
	That's him testifying in Connecticut, by the way.
	That's like official state...
	Video.
	Oh, that was actually a deposition?
	Deposition, yes.
	Lawyers under FOIA were trying to get these records, and this is his deposition statement where he's saying, no, we can't do that.
	This is not a legitimate request because of these reasons.
	So that was actual video.
	This is not like some guy in his living room.
	This was actually deposition footage.
	Interesting.
	Yeah.
	And when I first saw that footage, I'm like, this isn't for real.
	Who is this guy?
	It's like Stevie Wonder from Barbados.
	No, he's Assistant Attorney General to Connecticut.
	It's the real deal.
	So we're thinking now, if we also take this thesis and extrapolate it a bit.
	So the woman had a baby.
	She's been a dental hygienist for a long time, apparently.
	So she wasn't nuts then.
	And then they determine in the hospital after the baby that she's bipolar and schizophrenic and she's working on people's teeth.
	Yeah, none of that makes a lot of sense, I agree.
	But, you know, it's a year and a half, 18 months, I think.
	You know, a lot can change there, but the thing that just hit it for me, and actually with this, and I'm reading it everywhere now, this travel record show, she drove straight from Connecticut to D.C. So either they're tracking her, or there's a lot of toll roads that you can take.
	Right, and she might have a fast pass.
	Or just your license plate.
	Anyway, they shoot the license plate.
	But who does that?
	But digging up those records in five minutes is not that easy.
	Well, you don't know.
	Maybe it is.
	It could take a week.
	No.
	Who knows?
	I do.
	It's not possible.
	Why not?
	Isn't it just select star from...
	No?
	No, these machines.
	Yeah, if they were the highest tech and the greatest software, but let's face it, this is garbage.
	And where's the NSA in all this?
	They should have been able to spot this woman coming in.
	They should have seen it for miles.
	Where's the pre-crime squad?
	This is all just wasted money.
	No, they can't.
	Anyway, I think...
	That's right from, you know, CSI. Well, here's what I'd like to ask our producers, and we have some of the best producers in the universe.
	We have a lot of people who are very familiar with drugs.
	I'm not talking of the Silk Road variety, you know, administered in emergency situations, hospital situations, psychosis situations.
	We have doctors, we have emergency medical technicians, police officers.
	We have a lot of people who understand this stuff.
	What is the combination We have not been given the actual names.
	We know there was bipolar, postpartum depression.
	So what is the combination?
	Schizophrenia was mentioned.
	What is the possible combination of drugs?
	One, that's what I'd like to know.
	And then, yeah, I'll be the crackpot and say I think that there's something possibly local to Connecticut, but there's some other thing that triggers...
	Triggers this.
	Because, you know, these combinations can't be just, you know, given in Connecticut.
	They're given all over the place.
	But there may be some kind of trigger.
	They could be given all over the place, like Aurora, maybe.
	But it wouldn't have to get the black-eyed weird guy.
	Right, right.
	But let's just assume, since there's two incidents in Connecticut that involve drugs...
	That maybe there's a single doctor who's handing out a lethal combo of stuff.
	It could be a doctor, or it could be a program they're testing...
	I mean, let's face it, the CIA has been working on this problem, as they would consider it, forever.
	We know it goes back into the late 50s or 60s.
	MKUltra.
	Yeah, they were doping people up with LSD to see if they could control them.
	Guess what?
	They finally figured it out, apparently.
	It's a possibility they have, but I guess it's such a loose cannon situation that you have to...
	I don't think they've...
	I think they're still working on this problem.
	Something's up.
	If one more thing happens in Connecticut, we'll know.
	Was Aaron Alexis ever in Connecticut?
	Aaron Alexis?
	Oh, that guy?
	The black guy who looked like a maniac with those videos.
	Oh, by the way, was that the clip that we played?
	Or you may have cut it short.
	It was one of the reports.
	Yeah, I think it was that Nightline report.
	At the very end, the guy says, this is reminiscent of Aaron Alexis, and he says, who came in with a shotgun, and then there's this weird pause, and then he says, and a handgun.
	He had to slip the handgun.
	He came in with a shotgun with no ammo, as we can see in the video, and yet somehow was able to shoot off at least 50 rounds just from the shotgun.
	But they slipped this handgun thing and it was really annoying when I heard it.
	I'm trying to make a connection now between Aaron Alexis and Connecticut.
	I wonder if we can find that somehow.
	Well, why don't we just type it into the Google?
	Yeah, I'm doing that, but I haven't really come up with anything.
	Google isn't very handy because so many stories about Aaron Alexis.
	That's actually the great thing about Google if you're trying to cover this stuff up.
	Yeah.
	Once the incident happens, it's Google-bombed.
	It's like you can't...
	It's unusable.
	I've tried this, by the way, because there are date search mechanisms that you can use with Google.
	You can use Julian dates, and you can get free.
	But no, Google overflows into the date searches, too.
	It makes a mess.
	It's like Google just makes a mess once the event happens, and you can't do a lot of research on Google.
	No.
	No, that's why I'm running Yacy, but I'll have to.
	I'll work on that.
	I'm just, now I've got like a Connecticut column.
	Aaron and Alexis, same thing.
	Treated for mental illness, hearing voices.
	Yeah, what?
	I've got this report here.
	I'm hearing voices.
	Aaron and Alexis, oh, this is interesting.
	This is from WFSB Eyewitness News Channel 3, which I believe is in Connecticut.
	Yeah, same MO actually.
	She was hearing voices.
	She was being treated for similar kinds of things, supposedly.
	So this is the same MO as this guy.
	Well, this could just be a bad batch?
	Oh, nice advertising program here, there on this site.
	I got a little ad on the right.
	Amazon.com.
	I should buy the M-Audio device that I bought already.
	Do you know how many people are angry at me for mentioning the Berkey water filter?
	So, you know, you Google that thing once.
	And it follows you for months, no matter where you go.
	I still have a Berkey water filter.
	Amazon, this is just proof that all of this, oh, big data, we can do it all.
	It's not true.
	Amazon are the only guys I believe should be able to know what I want.
	And they today tried to sell me an Amazon Cloud Player for a PC. I'm sorry.
	I never use, I just don't use a PC.
	They know what I'm accessing their music service with, with the Macs and with an iPhone thing.
	They should know technically that you have a Mac because they would keep these records, but they don't.
	This whole thing, the entire business is a scam.
	It doesn't work.
	They're sending me like deals, suggestions, and it's like outfits for honey boo boo, like little kids, you know, Halloween costumes.
	Yeah, because you're looking weird stuff up for this show.
	No, I'm not looking up stuff for kids.
	Well, I don't know where you got the honey boobies stuff.
	This is what I mean.
	Baby is just looking to Mickey using him.
	But at this point, we have no kids.
	No, but you might like that show.
	Nah.
	I'm just kidding.
	Amazon really just doesn't know.
	They just really don't know.
	And if they don't know, nobody knows.
	Nobody knows.
	Which is why, you know, luckily, when people say, how many people listen to no agenda?
	I say, I really don't know.
	Do you know?
	I say, no, I don't know.
	Tracking and knowledge of numbers on the internet is also a lie.
	There's just no way.
	There's just no way you know exactly.
	I'll take that back.
	Under certain circumstances, if you're completely registered and you're logging in with passwords and there's logs, yes.
	Then you can know about stuff.
	But that's not how it works with a broadcast where we allow anyone to take the program, redistribute it.
	We've got BitTorrent Sync.
	We've got BitTorrents.
	We've got rehashes.
	You know, people upload it to you.
	There's a million different ways you can get this show.
	We have no idea how many people are listening.
	But the good news is we don't care.
	Because we don't have to take that number and go to some advertiser and say, well, if you take a look at this, a high proportion of nor-gen listeners are like...
	They're in the 18 to 24 demo.
	That's right.
	Well, first of all, they're not.
	We do have a lot of people in the demo.
	We've got people in the lower end of the demo, in fact.
	A lot of young'uns listening to the show.
	But also a lot of people who have kids in the demo, which is probably even better.
	I think we're pretty low.
	It would be nice to know, but we did have a no-agenda guy doing some stats for us.
	But it's still self-selecting, which makes it a problem.
	But it doesn't matter, because that's not our model.
	And that's what's great about it.
	So let me, with that, say...
	In the morning to you, John.
	And in the morning to you, Adam Curry.
	In the morning to all the ships at sea, boots on the ground, feeding the air, subs in the water, and all the dames and knights out there, and there are plenty of them.
	Yes, in the morning to our human resources there in the chat room, knowledgeinthestream.com, knowledgeinthechat.net.
	Thank you for your courage, and thank you to our artist, Joshua Pettigrew, who did the art for episode 553, another outstanding...
	Piece of art.
	This podcast has been seized image, which I thought was great.
	That, of course, playing into the Silk Road seized hidden site, whatever.
	Looking forward to what we'll see today, noagendaartgenerator.com.
	And as I alluded, our model here does not...
	Rely on numbers and registering people and tracking what they're doing and who's listening to the show and how long and where they're listening and how old they are.
	That's because our audience is not the product.
	Exactly.
	What you are hearing is the product.
	Our audience are the producers, co-producers of the product.
	And on every single show, we love to hand out the executive producer credits right at the top there, kind of the way you have an opening, like on NCSI. And then you get the plot, and then there's the opening credits.
	So we have our executive producers and associate executive producers.
	And unlike Thursday, we have a couple people today, which is nice.
	Yeah, we got some people, luckily.
	So let's start by thanking them, our executive producers and associate executive producers for Show 554.
	And back again is...
	Sir David Foley, the Duke of Silicon Valley and some other.
	He's got the Duke of Mystery.
	He's got a whole bunch of different titles.
	And he's also the one who sells.
	We don't have his little plug.
	Yeah, there it is.
	You can go to him at 4kspecial.com.
	He is a specialist apparently now in selling 4K TVs.
	Oh, really?
	Yeah, he's got a business and the whole thing.
	And he's got this special discount for No Agenda listeners.
	Yeah, let me read the note here.
	He became the member of the 554 Club.
	Oh, sole member today.
	Sole member.
	.66 he gave us for the celebration.
	And in the morning, John and Adam will close find my donation to 554-66, which is Club 554 plus 66 cents.
	For good measure, $100 is donations from two purchases in my Value for Value campaign at 4kspecial.com, where I will continue to donate for each product sold using the discount code NA. So people can go buy something from 4kspecial.com, use the discount code NA, the buyer gets $50 off, and then he matches that $50 in a donation to the show.
	Yeah.
	That's great.
	That's a serious donation thing he's got going there.
	And he sold two, apparently.
	Yeah, well, two people that are...
	I hope he sold more than two TVs.
	Well, no, two no-agenda.
	Yeah, two no-agenda TVs.
	We're mac and cheese people here, man.
	That's pretty good.
	Yeah, well, hopefully he's selling it.
	The 4K TVs are beautiful.
	Jonathan, and it turns out, I was looking at his site, a lot of them aren't that expensive.
	Now, Miss Mickey had a question about the 4K TVs.
	She says, will it ruin my experience when I see these people in every detail?
	Well, right now, I think most of the stuff you're going to see on a 4K TV is going to be up-converted.
	Right, but when we have actual 4K content...
	And if you can't see the nose hair on the HD signal, it's going to be upconverted.
	Still won't see the nose hair.
	It'll still just be a little nicer looking.
	Oh, okay.
	And let's get over it.
	I remember when the first analog TVs were, before pre-HD TV, they were always trying to get some other thing going on, which analog, and the equipment was too expensive.
	Right.
	And it was digital saved HD. And when you first looked at these things, you'd say, oh my God, this woman...
	Is terrible looking.
	She's wrinkly and all the rest.
	They've fixed most of that with all kinds of filters.
	Well, they also have the spray-on makeup now.
	Yeah, you have to trowel it on.
	And it works.
	I hadn't heard that expression in a while.
	Trowel it on.
	Kershlapp.
	I'm just thinking porn is going to kind of get ruined by this 4K business.
	I just didn't need to see that.
	You're making me sick.
	I didn't need to see that.
	Bobby Eden will be out of a job.
	Jonathan Rose, $350 from the time.
	Hey, Joe Rose.
	Nice.
	Joe Rose.
	John.
	Isn't it John?
	Whatever.
	Netanya in Israel.
	Give me some money for my birthday.
	Got some money for my birthday last week via PayPal.
	Thought I'd complete my knighthood.
	Would like to be known henceforth as Sir Jono, Elder of Zion.
	All right.
	That's great.
	The only show that actually has an elder of Zion listening.
	Yes, we have one of the elders of Zion as one of our knights.
	People may be thinking they've got conspiracy.
	We've got one of the elders of Zion.
	We've got one of the elders.
	We've got one of the elders right here, people.
	I'm going to give him some karma for that.
	I love that.
	Good one.
	You've got karma.
	We have been compromised by the elders of Zion.
	Liam Hemmings in Menton, France.
	Menton.
	$300.
	And I don't have a note from him.
	Do you know that I'm still receiving at least four spam messages in French every day since we were in France?
	Oh, because...
	Because I use the...
	I don't know how they do...
	I think the unique device ID is...
	I've been reading a lot about this Flurry thing.
	Have you ever heard of this Flurry application?
	No, no, tell me.
	Yeah, Flurry is like a tracking service you can put into your app, and it essentially tracks your unique device ID and some other things really across the entire spectrum.
	And so without divulging your email address directly, it can eventually find another site that can relate you to your email address or some other way of connecting to you through your unique device ID. Because I didn't sign up for anything in French while I was there.
	I might have used the Wi-Fi here or there.
	And it's fascinating.
	It's fascinating to me that A, that it happened, and B, that there's no...
	Well, I guess if they only could figure out that I'm reading the messages, but it's just the wrong message.
	Send me something I want.
	Well, again, that's probably why I get all this.
	I get a lot of stuff from Brazil.
	Yeah, you and your tranny sites.
	Oh, yeah.
	Paul Simon, you wish.
	Paul Simon in Toronto, Ontario, 250.
	And he once is requesting a Dr.
	Kiki growl.
	Shut up already!
	Science!
	Yeah, Dr.
	Kiki.
	Yeah, Dr.
	Kiki.
	And finally, Daniel Gray...
	Who may be related to Sonny Gray the Pitcher.
	223 Tempe, Arizona.
	Gentlemen, please accept this donation for I've been a boner for too long.
	I realize you guys have had some lower donation amounts these past few shows.
	But please don't give up hope on your listeners.
	I surely appreciate what you guys do and I love the show notes.
	There you have it.
	Thank you very much.
	The show notes, by the way, are...
	We work hard on them.
	Incredibly valuable.
	Please give a shot of karma to our drone knight in New York City.
	He's got...
	By the way, where happened to our guy in New York that had put those posters up?
	They got arrested.
	He's...
	So he had a lot of legal hassles, obviously.
	He's kind of...
	He's become a bit of a celebrity in his own right.
	Yeah, and rightly so.
	He's been doing more art...
	I was hoping to get a poster from him.
	Yeah, he said he kept them for us.
	But the guy was in so much crap.
	I tried to help him out, get some headliners for a musical thing that he was doing to raise money.
	Because he's got really big legal bills from this whole kerfuffle.
	Yeah.
	Because he's a huge threat to society.
	What about satirical posters?
	Well, the problem was he had a loaded.22 in the house.
	In New York, that's a problem.
	Hey, talk into the mic, dude.
	Keep talking into the mic.
	Don't fall away.
	I fell away.
	Anyway.
	Let's give him a shot.
	Wait, wait, wait.
	Our guy's got a big speech coming up, and he's in a tougher spot than a lot of us.
	Keep your head up, home slice.
	What?
	That's how you talk in New York.
	Keep your head up, home slice.
	Oh, brother.
	John and Adam, thanks for all you do.
	All right, here you go.
	Big shout out to him.
	You've got karma.
	He's going to be okay.
	He's a very talented artist, by the way.
	I've seen his portfolio, not just the drone stuff, because he was at our meetup in Jersey City.
	The guy is incredibly talented.
	And he's like one of these, personally, he's a good-looking guy.
	His name is, well, I shouldn't tell you his name.
	I don't know if he wants his first name, no.
	No, no, you have to give us permission.
	But I saw he had one of those big portfolio books.
	He actually wanted to show Mickey, because he and Mickey, he does photography and manipulated image.
	And he's also just one of the, you know, he has kind of that artist vibe, you know, where you're like, my God, this guy, he's in a whole different universe.
	You know what I mean?
	Yeah, there's people and they're artists and they're just smart.
	They do their thing.
	They're expressive.
	Annoyingly nice.
	We're expressive too, you know, in our own artistic performance art way.
	The show is a piece of performance art.
	Total performance art.
	We get the kind of money that performance artists get.
	That's right.
	Next to nothing.
	We need a hat in his feet.
	Well, we make about as much as the guy that is spray-painted gold.
	Stands like a statue.
	Could you imagine us?
	We'd probably make more that way, actually.
	Hey, talk into the mic.
	I'm like an inch away from the mic.
	All right, then turn something up, because something turned down.
	I don't know what happened.
	Really?
	Yes, really.
	Okay, well, let's give me ten counts.
	Go one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight.
	I don't see what...
	Really, I'm like right on...
	Well, I could play around with these buttons.
	Yeah.
	On this new device, nothing could possibly do.
	Turn them all a little bit to the right.
	Let's see what happens.
	Just every knob you got.
	I'm not going to do them all at once.
	Testing 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7.
	Look, all I know is that all of a sudden you just went down like 15 dog biscuits.
	Oh, man.
	No, I haven't.
	You're good.
	Now you're back.
	So it's good.
	I don't know what's going on.
	It's fine.
	It's your site.
	It's fine.
	This is great.
	Yes.
	I want to thank all these producers and executive producers, social executive producers for show 554 and remind people to go to Dvorak.org slash NA, channel Dvorak.com slash NA, especially if you're a boner.
	And go to channeldvorak.com.
	Oh, I already said that.
	What else?
	Noagendanation.com and noagendashow.com.
	And there should be a donate button, I hope.
	Yes, and as usual, as usual, I would like to program your brain for a moment here.
	Master of the house, rolling out the charm.
	Round here with the handshake and open.
	Thank you very much.
	These are real credits.
	We will vouch for you, unlike those phonies in Hollywood.
	Now about the formula.
	Our formula is this.
	We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
	We go out, we go out, we go out.
	Order!
	Shut up, slay!
	Shut up, slay!
	Give the kid a new toy.
	These things are expensive.
	It's $35.
	Yeah.
	They're pretty junky, too.
	So Japanese garbage is what it is.
	But until I get the theremin, now I'm hoping somebody out there has a theremin in their attic.
	There's a theremin kit you can buy and build.
	No, no, no, no.
	It's a nice one.
	It's a really nice one.
	Yeah, I know, but they're desktop.
	I want the big old clunker, the original one that was on the Ed Sullivan show.
	I've never seen that one.
	So here's a little interesting ditty I picked up from Auntie, from the BBC, who apparently the BBC is just basically an American broadcast propaganda arm now.
	When I'm here in Austin and I'm in the car, it's all...
	Is it BBC America, though?
	Which of the BBCs are you listening to?
	Well, no, on NPR, it's all BBC shows.
	It's all BBC people.
	It's just all Brits I hear all the time.
	Right, right, right, right, right.
	World, world, have your say.
	World, why the world would you watch your wicked good morning with BBC World?
	Hello?
	This is all BBC people.
	Anyway, here's something that I caught, which is patently untrue, but I thought it was interesting, and this is in regard to the Silk Road shutdown.
	Now, there's been a major blow for the digital currency Bitcoin.
	A major blow?
	Major blow.
	A major blow to the digital currency Bitcoin.
	Listen to how she pronounces Bitcoin, and she keeps on pronouncing Bitcoin.
	The FBI says it shut down the notorious Silk Road online marketplace and arrested its alleged founder, 29-year-old Ross William Obricht, who called himself Dread Pirate Roberts.
	Now, the site, which used Bitcoins, was known for allowing users to buy illegal drugs and engage in other criminal activities anonymously online.
	With Bitcoins!
	So this is patently untrue.
	And this is what I... And I went to go look it up, of course.
	Now, Bitcoin...
	There has been no major blow to Bitcoin.
	It is at $130, almost $136 today, the 6th of October, Sunday.
	When the takedown took place, it was hovering around $139, $140, went down to $109.
	That, of course, is where the scammers came in and then started ticking up again.
	And now it's up above the mid-130s.
	So, A, why is the BBC saying this?
	So they can buy in.
	Well, you have to wonder.
	It's like pump and dump.
	And was the Silk Road...
	There's a couple things.
	Well, did you hear the secondary analysis that after it popped back up to where it belongs, which is about 135 or so?
	Did you hear the secondary?
	This is like stock market analysis.
	You always get the biggest kick out of it.
	The market goes down.
	It's because of this.
	The market goes up.
	It's because of the same thing.
	Same thing.
	Yeah, same thing.
	Exactly.
	So this is the thing I heard.
	I didn't clip it, but...
	Oh, and Bitcoin's back to where it was.
	It appears that the shutdown of the Silk Road legitimatized Bitcoin.
	And now that it's not associated with drug and all the rest of it, apparently it's now better.
	The whole thing is...
	So still we have not...
	Sorry about that.
	My finger slipped.
	Put your elbow on the thing.
	What's the deal?
	Loose hands here.
	Sorry about that.
	So we still have not seen anything really in the news.
	It's like just a passing mention where this is supposed to have been like this, you know, what's going on here?
	Stop.
	Like this unbelievable $1.2 billion outfit.
	I'm doubting that now.
	I'm seriously doubting that they had that much money.
	I mean, there's no evidence of the $80 million in commissions.
	There's no evidence of this guy.
	All I've seen now is a courtroom drawing.
	Hello, it's 2013.
	Can we stop with the courtroom drawings already with the sketch artist?
	How is that in any way supposed to make me believe the guy was even arraigned anywhere?
	Why can't we have a photo of him?
	I don't understand what the judge said.
	Oh, no, this is a Bitcoin pirate.
	We can't have a photo of him.
	I mean, what is that?
	I know, this is a pet peeve of yours.
	That and the fact that I just don't see the type of activity you would expect from this incredible win on the war on drugs.
	No, I agree with that, too.
	Well, maybe the whole thing was just, you know, it did...
	Just a Bitcoin scam.
	It could be a Bitcoin scam.
	I mean, there could have been drugs.
	I mean, BBC had a person do it.
	You did it.
	Worked through the system.
	But that's not the same as $1.x billion, which is a big operation.
	Yeah, yeah.
	You'd think there would be some more bragging.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Anyway, that is also a pet peeve of mine.
	But then when I hear the BBC pontificating about it's been a major blow to Bitcoin, no!
	That's just not true.
	And why don't you say a major blow to the war on drugs, or to the internet freedom, or something?
	Just say something, please, but not that.
	Alright.
	So I have a little letter from our economic hitman.
	Actually, he sent me a note linking me to a story which I like to read.
	Oh, nice.
	Yeah, we always love that.
	Yeah.
	This is not reported in the Western media.
	Now, this is an actual economic hitman, very similar to the Confessions of Economic Hitman.
	He has never contacted, only John.
	Yeah, well, you have your own guy.
	Yeah, I have my own guy, but he doesn't really like me, I'm pretty convinced.
	Your guy?
	No, your guy.
	No, he's in love with you.
	He's a man crush.
	Okay.
	I don't know.
	I've known this guy for a while.
	I think this guy is trying to handle me through you.
	Oh, that could be.
	Okay.
	CCTV footage.
	This is a very funny story.
	Footage from the Westgate Mall attack confirms that some soldiers took part in the looting.
	Okay.
	Virtually all the shops in the mall were looted except the Bata shoe shop with jewelry and mobile shops emptied.
	ATMs, banks, and a casino also lost funds.
	Wait, they had a casino in the mall?
	Yeah.
	Maybe that's more like an arcade.
	No, no.
	It would be a casino.
	You keep reading.
	I'll look.
	You've seen those things in England.
	You know, they're little rinky-dink casinos.
	But this is Africa.
	They don't gamble in Africa, do they?
	Oh, no.
	Gambling?
	Gambling?
	I'm stunned.
	I have it here.
	Kenyan soldiers filmed rifling cash registers.
	Yeah.
	Amateur video shows bottles of alcohol all over Art Cafe after a drinking spree.
	Now the CCTV footage indicates that some soldiers looting started after the Army took over the Westgate operation from the police on Saturday night.
	Army who stole from...
	Okay, here's that.
	Somebody said they witnessed some of it going on.
	Three soldiers are seen walking out of the Nakumat supermarket with plastic shopping bags filled with cash.
	With his back to the camera, one is seen at 9.12 p.m. on Saturday, September 21st, emptying a cash register into the plastic Nakumat bag while another soldier holds the bag open.
	The soldier then collects another cash register, which he empties into the bag.
	The faces of the two soldiers, bareheaded and not wearing their berets, are clearly visible in the CCTV footage.
	Another KDF officer is seen walking out of the Nakumat supermarket with two big shopping bags in the direction of the basement parking.
	He returns after ten minutes and is seen walking around the supermarket looking at the shelves.
	Anyway, it goes on and on, and apparently there's only four guys that went in, and they have videos of them.
	And by the way, it's the soldiers that I saw robbing the passengers in the terminal in Nairobi.
	But wait a minute.
	Wait a minute.
	Stop.
	How can we...
	How can we now square this with our incredible American prowess as SEAL Team 6 went in and got one of these?
	We shot him in his hideout.
	We killed him.
	SEAL Team 6, it's like Team America.
	You had some terrorism there?
	We're going to come in and kill him!
	Well, you bring that up.
	Play Jesse Ventura.
	Well, I'll set you up with the report, and then I want you to go to Jesse Ventura.
	There are two major U.S. military attacks in Africa.
	U.S. Special Forces captured in an al-Qaeda operative, wanted for the 1998 bombings on the U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania.
	Abu Anas al-Libi has topped the most wanted list for quite some time now.
	He was captured in Libya's capital of Tripoli.
	How much do you want to bet this guy's alive in two months from now?
	The official says the operation was conducted with the knowledge of the Libyan government.
	The U.S. had a $5 million bounty on his head.
	Okay, quickly...
	Libya is now saying, we didn't know about that.
	If you read the news reports this morning, they are literally saying, we have a couple questions about this thing you say we knew about, and I found it also odd to hear all the news reports saying, we did it with the knowledge of the Libyan government.
	Who gives a crap about the Libyan government?
	We took over that place.
	We bombed it.
	We run the show.
	Why do you have to say that?
	There's something weird about that we haven't figured out yet.
	That's new information.
	Captured with the knowledge.
	See, he's saying it again.
	And he says it with, with a very emphasis.
	With the Libyan government.
	Al-Libby joined al-Qaeda soon after its founding and is considered a senior member of the terror group.
	Is this Don Lemon or is this Al Jazeera?
	This is Don Lemon.
	Now we go to Somalia.
	Let's go to Somalia.
	The U.S. Navy SEALs team went on a mission to nab an al-Qaeda, an al-Shabaab, excuse me, leader possibly linked to that Kenya mall attack that left 67 people dead.
	The Navy SEALs had to withdraw before they could confirm he was killed because they were under fire.
	And then we have Bali, and then we'll go to...
	It's a nightmarish bunch of bull crap.
	Oh, yeah.
	Well, here's John F. Carey.
	The F. Carey.
	It means he is royal like Kamala.
	Fake.
	It means fake.
	F-A-K-E. And he's basically propagating the meme of Team America.
	The U.S. Secretary of State, John Kerry, who has arrived in Bali to attend a meeting of Asian leaders, said that recent U.S. actions in Libya and Somalia were a warning.
	We hope that this makes clear that the United States of America will never stop in its effort to hold those accountable conduct acts of terror, that those members of Al-Qaeda and other terrorist organizations literally run dead high.
	So someone's going to get fired for this audio being so crappy.
	Because, you know, John F. Carey wants to make sure that his message is always heard.
	But what he said is...
	I agree.
	Just so you know, bitches, you can run, but you can't hide from America.
	Because no matter who you're terrorizing, you're terrorizing some poor Africans.
	We're going to come in there and kick your ass, boy!
	Son!
	This is so annoying.
	Please, I don't agree with this.
	In 2014, don't we have like a vote, midterms, John?
	Can we vote?
	Is it possible in the 2014 midterm elections to actually vote every incumbent out?
	It would be nice, but they probably won't do it.
	But it's possible, right?
	No, it's not possible.
	It's an across-the-board.
	Everyone's up for re-election, no?
	Yeah, all Congress is re-elected every two years.
	And the Senate?
	About a third of them.
	Oh, so they're not all in one go?
	No, because it's a six-year and it's staggered.
	I have no idea how it works.
	I'm American.
	We don't understand our system.
	How would you know that?
	But I'm angry about this.
	Enough, please.
	Just stop.
	Just focus on getting the deal with Europe so we can ship our gas over there, save the world economy.
	Stop blowing up crap.
	I'm tired of it.
	Stop killing people.
	And why don't you go get the soldiers who were looting?
	The whole thing was apparently a scam.
	But now you say you found the guy who was behind it, and the guy's in his seaside cottage, chilling out, smoking a dube, and then SEAL Team 6 comes in trying to blow him up?
	It doesn't sound right.
	No, no, it doesn't sound right at all.
	So Ventura was on Breaking the Set.
	Oh, that's Abby on the RT? Abby.
	And I have to now, after watching her trying to be melodramatic and all the rest of it, I have to say, I think you're absolutely correct.
	I kind of probably thought this originally, but I'm...
	You're always criticizing me for being kind of harsh.
	And she's an idiot.
	Yeah, this is what I've always said.
	No, I mean, she's actually, I think she's really an idiot.
	I mean, to watch her do her show, she's terrible.
	I don't know.
	I mean, her good shot, and her body language and everything sucks, by the way.
	But in the box shot, just of her face looking into the camera, gorgeous.
	She's beautiful.
	Yeah.
	In the box shot is what you call that?
	Yeah, the in the box.
	She's in the left box.
	I've never heard that.
	Oh, in the box.
	Yes, in the box.
	In the box.
	With the two-box shot.
	Yes, but she...
	So first of all, you're right.
	She has the sexy outfit, but she's probably comfortable wearing...
	Oh, no.
	She's an Oakland chick.
	She's going to wear flats and berks and stocks.
	Yeah, exactly.
	Her hair's never going to be washed.
	And you dress her up in kind of the sexy outfit, and it doesn't work.
	And by the way, we're only talking as television professionals here.
	We're not talking as...
	I'm glad you clarified that, because a lot of people say, well, these two sexes...
	Misogynist a-holes.
	No, no, no.
	Yeah, that's what we sound like, but when we go into this rant, these are TV executives...
	Suits.
	We're sounding like suits.
	But I found...
	You know who's running this RT outfit is a...
	I think she's 36 or 37.
	She's just had her first kid...
	And you look at this woman who's the exec producer of RT, and you're like, oh, no wonder.
	No wonder this is what she thinks.
	It's what the audience wants.
	Oh, this reminds me of when Christina Hefner took over Playboy.
	Oh, the lesbian, of course, and that ruined it.
	It ruined it because what's sexy to her is a lesbian.
	Yeah, and by the way, I love lesbians, but that's not the point.
	She just does not have the hormonal qualifications.
	Right.
	God.
	That's true.
	I know.
	And you're this disgusting misogynist sexist pig.
	I'm already hating myself, but this is how media talks go.
	This is how the meeting goes.
	It has to, because otherwise nothing gets done.
	And you know there was meetings about her taking over.
	And oh, and I'm sure Hugh assuaded the board of directors.
	Oh, don't worry about it.
	She's sensible.
	She knows what a hot woman looks like.
	And no.
	No, the magazine went downhill from the day she took over and it never recovered.
	So it's a men's magazine.
	Why would you put a lesbian, an out lesbian, we're not criticizing her for being a lesbian, she just is what she said she was.
	Why would you put an out lesbian in charge of a kind of a screwball men's magazine that was really kind of quasi-political about the sexual revolution?
	It makes no sense.
	So they have this spy woman running RT, and she's a first-time mom, and we know what you need.
	I mean, look at the success formula, people.
	Fox News.
	Legs.
	That's it.
	Legs.
	So they dress poor Abby up.
	We're right.
	Flats, Birkenstock, probably even Dockers with a flat butt.
	That's how she walks around all day.
	And then they dress her up, and she's wobbly on the shoes.
	She's totally wobbly.
	It's like you can tell.
	She's going to fall over.
	And she doesn't have to.
	What's the point of her being in heels that tall?
	No reason for it.
	And then she's trying to do the whole outrage about how crazy everything is, but she's reading a script, and she can't act.
	So, with that said, where are we at?
	Okay, with that said, she's got Jesse Ventura on, and she's actually thrilled.
	She's really happy to see him.
	So he came out and talked about the Kennedy.
	He's got a book about the Kennedy assassination.
	How topical!
	And so she asked him a few questions that are kind of...
	Let's play a few of these clips and we'll see.
	Play the one that is the Ventura SEAL Team 6 story.
	I got story spelled wrong, but it's a typo.
	I got it.
	It was much better in the old days where we simply wore green uniforms with jump wings and wore no other insignias at all to indicate who we were.
	And SEAL Team 6 was the highly secretive one.
	In fact, my good friend Dick Marcinko is the creator of SEAL Team 6.
	He writes all the Rogue Warrior books.
	And Dick's the one that created SEAL Team 6, the anti-terrorist unit.
	And I've had personal friends that have served in SEAL Team 6.
	They weren't even known.
	They wouldn't even acknowledge SEAL Team 6 existed.
	And now today, they're like, every day, everyone knows it, everyone wants to be one, and Hollywood wants to exploit them.
	What is it about Jesse Ventura that no longer really works for me?
	It's this cadence.
	And he's also somewhat, I think he's full of crap.
	Well, that's kind of what I'm feeling.
	First, I'm like, this guy's pretty...
	He's awesome, right?
	He brags about certain things.
	Is he?
	I don't know.
	Well, I thought he was, and I feel less so.
	So let's play this clip here.
	Ventura, the first, it should have been actually played first, because she says, this is the seal to fail.
	Fail.
	Yeah.
	This is where she calls the SEAL Team 6 an assassination unit.
	And we, by the way, deconstructed SEAL Team 6 when the Bin Laden situation took place.
	I mean, the guys who were killed afterwards in a helicopter accident?
	Well, no.
	Before that, we talked about the group being an extraction unit and an anti-terrorist group.
	They were not an assassination unit.
	So she says that in here, and he doesn't call her on it.
	I don't know if he's not paying attention, but I find it weird.
	But play that clip.
	Former Navy SEAL, do you find it weird that SEAL Team 6, a group that embodies this extrajudicial assassination, has been glorified in the mainstream?
	No, I'm upset that people even know about the SEAL Team, because back when I was in the Navy, they weren't even hardly known to the public.
	Now they've turned them into the Green Berets.
	Yeah, okay.
	Yeah, that is interesting.
	Extrajudicial assassination team.
	Well, maybe he didn't understand what she was saying.
	Oh, that's possible because she's reading that and she's blowing through it.
	In fact, let's play that again.
	Interesting you say that.
	With the knowledge that she...
	Did not have this in her head, extrajudicial...
	What did she say?
	Extrajudicial assassination.
	She's reading this off the prompter, off of the paper, and I agree, she's not enunciating properly.
	Former Navy SEAL, do you find it weird that SEAL Team 6, a group that embodies this extrajudicial assassination, has been glorified?
	Yeah, she's fumbling through it.
	She couldn't even read it.
	So I don't think he heard it, John, quite honestly.
	Yeah, it could be.
	It could have been anything.
	He's like, what?
	What?
	And meanwhile, he's looking like, Man, girl, you can't stand on those heels.
	She can't.
	So here's a couple of things.
	We'll just get these out of the way.
	Here's Ventura on Hunt.
	Yeah?
	What is this about?
	She's trying to talk about the book, and he brings up a point which is, I think, kind of interesting because it's a point I bring up every so often when we talk about radical Muslims.
	The media is always saying, or not the media, but the talking head pundits, the Buchanans and all these guys that are on the McLaughlin Report and all the rest of them are always saying stuff like, Oh, if the Muslims would only speak up.
	The Muslims themselves would only speak up about these radicals.
	Oh, right.
	They do.
	It's just no one ever puts them on the air.
	They speak up all the time.
	And there's plenty of websites that condemn this and the rest of it.
	They never put them on the air.
	And this has been Shura's belief that this was common during the Kennedy assassination.
	Jesse, a majority of Americans believe this.
	They believe that JFK was assassinated by a conspiracy.
	And also, a majority of people have questions about 9-11 also.
	Knowing this, how does it feel to go on shows like Piers Morgan and other shows on the mainstream media and to be ridiculed and painted as a lunatic for bringing up these issues?
	Wow, I'm sorry.
	What a dumb question.
	What a dumb question and the cadence with which she asks it.
	No, her cadence is, that's because she's on all the time and you'd think she learned to read from a prompter more naturally.
	Nobody talks like this.
	No, they don't.
	These issues.
	Well, because we'll show you in the book that that was the CIA's mission to anyone that questioned it.
	That's how they do.
	They try to marginalize you.
	They try to make it seem like you're a conspiracy nut.
	That's where the mainstream media comes in, because they are also culpable in this deal.
	Because, excuse me, many times you hear, well, someone would have talked.
	Many people have talked.
	It's simply mainstream media won't report that they did.
	I'll give you an example.
	I have an audio, visual, and written confession from E. Howard Hunt from Watergate, the CIA. He did a deathbed confession to his son St.
	John Hunt.
	We've got it all on tape.
	We aired it on my TV show.
	It should have been headlines across America.
	E. Howard Hunt admits he was part of JFK conspiracy to kill him.
	It didn't receive one word of mainstream media coverage, not a word that E. Howard Hunt had confessed to an outside participation.
	He even named who did it.
	Yeah.
	Well, yeah.
	Well, that does kind of slip into this.
	By the way, for people out there who want to have some fun, read the E. Howard Hunt Wikipedia entry.
	It is quite fascinating because they've got all kinds of stuff.
	Whoever put that together did a pretty good job.
	I don't know anything about E. Howard Hunt.
	He was one of the plumbers during the Nixon-Watergate break, and he was one of the guys.
	He was an old CIA hack from the early days.
	And he's the guy who was cited along with a couple of these other guys in the book, The Legacy Family.
	What's that one book?
	Family of Secrets.
	Family of Secrets.
	He was cited as one of the guys who the writer believes purposely screwed that deal up so they could get Nixon caught.
	Right, right, right.
	That's that guy.
	What I always like about that book...
	Great book.
	Everyone should read.
	The only person in the world who doesn't remember where he was on the day that JFK was killed is George H. Walker Bush.
	I can't remember where I was.
	I don't know.
	Who cares?
	I was drunk.
	I was drunk.
	This kind of rolls into a public policy polling report that came out earlier in the week about conspiracy theories.
	And actually, the press release says here, Republicans more likely to subscribe to government conspiracy theories.
	And I always love these reports and the percentages, and I just want to run through a couple of things.
	I thought some of the questions actually were very interesting, that this is what's considered government conspiracies.
	And I guess you went through all the questions, then they said, are you Republican, are you Democrat, independent, not sure, etc.?
	You mean like the Gulf of Tompkins government?
	Well, unfortunately, that wasn't one of the questions, strangely enough.
	Oh, fascinating.
	That one got busted.
	That one got outed.
	But some of the questions are great.
	Do you think the Obama administration is secretly trying to take everyone's guns away?
	Do you think there is a secret society such as Skull and Bones that produces most of America's political and financial leaders to serve the interests of the wealthy elite?
	That's a great question.
	Do you think that a government organization such as the Men in Black exists to stop people from finding out that aliens do exist and live amongst humans on Earth?
	I like the way they mix these things.
	So you have something that actually has some credibility with a piece of fiction that was shown on the movie screens.
	Do you think the US government has engaged in the assassination of entertainers who've tried to spread a counterculture message they didn't like, such as John Lennon, Kurt Cobain, Tupac Shakur, and others?
	And these are very interesting questions.
	Do you think it's easy to have a person killed and get away with it if you have enough money?
	Is that really a conspiracy question?
	How is that a conspiracy question?
	Well, 54% of Americans, according to the survey, think it is easy.
	27% no, and 18% we're not sure.
	They will be dead soon, by the way, that 18%.
	This is my favorite.
	I love this a lot.
	Do you think that major sporting events like the NBA playoffs or the Super Bowl are sometimes rigged by referees and league offices to create an outcome that will lead to better ratings and more money and publicity for the sport?
	Huh.
	32% of Americans think yes, 49% think no.
	And those 32% listen to no agenda.
	Do you think the U.S. government has a secret fleet of black helicopters that will be used in an eventual United Nations military takeover of the United States?
	This is not even...
	I mean, this is...
	This is dumb.
	But this is...
	Well, someone paid for it.
	Let's look at some of the results.
	I just highlighted a few.
	The whole thing, of course, is in the show notes.
	554.nashownotes.com marked up appropriately.
	Secret Society produce to serve the elite.
	20% of Democrats...
	Say yes.
	15% of Republicans say yes.
	Well, that doesn't make sense with the basic thesis.
	Interesting.
	Which is the Republicans are all in on this and the Democrats.
	That's why I highlighted that.
	So this is the skull and bones.
	So apparently Democrats are thinking skull and bones is there's something to it.
	Right.
	Then we have, is Obama trying to take away guns?
	This is now Hispanic and white.
	Right.
	The base 36% says yes.
	31% of Hispanics believe Obama's trying to take away guns.
	But we all know that the Hispanic community is great.
	If they could only speak English, it'd be great for no agenda.
	If you speak in Spanish, it's not going to happen.
	But they'd love our show.
	Are sports rigged even?
	31% across the board.
	Democrats, Republicans, Hispanics, whites, everyone.
	How does this fit into this thesis that Republicans are nuts?
	I'm just wondering.
	I'm not getting it.
	I like this.
	Does the government have black helicopters for the United Nations takeover?
	Whites, 6%.
	African Americans, 16%.
	Hispanic, 20%.
	Exactly.
	They know the truth, man.
	They see them.
	A lot of the things you don't put in there is questions like, do you think a lot of sports are rigged because of gambling interests?
	Yeah, or mobsters.
	I mean, I was at a horse race with a favorite horse.
	I was betting on this horse.
	I forgot, this is about four years ago, Charbonne or whatever, some famous horse that was the fastest thing on the track.
	And they put all the horses in the little thing there where you get them ready to go before you open the gate.
	And his gate opens.
	Just one gate.
	One gate out of the blue opens.
	The horse takes off and then breaks his leg.
	Whoops.
	I'm thinking, wait a minute.
	Let me just ask you a couple more questions here from this server.
	I can't believe someone paid money for this.
	Wow.
	Do you think a group of world bankers is slowly eliminating paper currency until most banking is done electronically and then will cut the power grid so that most citizens will not have access to any money and will be forced into worldwide slavery?
	Well, you got part of it right.
	I think that's what's wrong.
	They're asking too much.
	It's like, eliminating paper currency?
	Yes.
	It's obvious because that's what they're doing.
	But then they throw in the cut, the power grids.
	Well, no.
	They throw in some bull crap.
	No, you need the control is there, though.
	Only 17% of Americans believe that.
	65% say no.
	I'm surprised any of them believe it.
	Do you think Barack Obama is secretly trying to figure out a way to stay in office beyond 2017?
	Surprisingly, 25% of Americans think so.
	This is a common belief with every president that gets re-elected.
	It's the same thing with Bush.
	Oh, he's going to run for a third term.
	Oh, they're going to change the Constitution.
	And there's always one or two boneheads.
	There's one guy in particular that every year, every year, he offers a constitutional amendment to repeal the term limits on the president.
	He does it every time the session's in.
	Never passes, obviously, and it wouldn't pass the states anyway.
	But he does it all the time, and they always point to that.
	Ooh, this guy's trying to make it so the president can get a third term.
	Yeah, well, it'll be martial law.
	Right, he's going to do something.
	I'm very disappointed by it.
	These guys don't need that.
	They make so much scam money.
	Look at Clinton.
	He's become a billionaire after he left office.
	A hundred billionaires.
	Question 12 was very disappointed.
	Only 3% of Americans believe this.
	Do you think the US government has secretly allowed aliens to take over our society in exchange for help with industrial technological advances such as electric power and the microwave?
	Very, very sad.
	Only 3% of Americans believe that.
	Well, that's a good sign.
	I think they do a little better than what we've got.
	Please.
	Do you think Muslims are covertly implementing Sharia law in American court systems or not?
	I would say yes.
	But it's not Muslims.
	That's not a conspiracy.
	It's just a fact.
	No, it's not even a fact.
	I mean, you can't pose everything as a conspiracy.
	Do you think that cops hide behind trees at speed limit signs in hopes to get people speeding?
	Yeah, that's a conspiracy.
	Is that a conspiracy?
	Yes.
	So 26% of Americans believe that.
	Everything's a conspiracy, apparently.
	Yes.
	Well, you know how words are maligned.
	There you go.
	Yeah, who is the public policy polling?
	What is this outfit?
	Never heard of them.
	No, and I see them all the time.
	The PP logo, you'd notice it immediately.
	PPP's latest round of conspiracy theory-related questions finds Republicans are more likely than Democrats to believe various government-related conspiracy theories.
	Well, this is clearly meant to make people look like idiots.
	Anyway.
	All right.
	I've got a couple of...
	You know the math thing?
	I was into these people with these numbers because of the shutdown?
	Yes, yes, yes.
	I've got a couple here that I've got to...
	I want to hear...
	Play this one.
	Play this clip.
	It's called the FDA Croc of Shit.
	Ah, I noticed that clip.
	The FDA, which checks fruits and vegetables for quality and safety, has furloughed nearly half its workforce and canceled routine inspections.
	The consumer may see prices rise if things cannot be imported because inspections are not being done.
	There may be less of a choice in the grocery store.
	Fewer inspectors means higher prices.
	It puts me and my family at risk if the fruits and vegetables aren't being inspected.
	And if the price increases as well, it puts a strain on our budget.
	Let me ask you a question before you go on.
	How does laying off half of the FDA make prices go up?
	It seems to me that it would cost less to have the lesser number of inspectors.
	Many of them, I think, are paid in various subsystems that work through the food industry.
	Why would it make prices go up?
	I'm asking you.
	What's the correlation between we have less inspectors, which means you can really flood the market with stuff, it seems to me, at a cheaper price?
	What they're saying in the report, the way I heard it is, if we have less inspectors, less food gets approved for sale, so there's less supply.
	That's not the way it works.
	That's what they're saying.
	Look, the whole thing is bogative anyway.
	It turns out everyone gets to go back, paid vacation.
	You were right.
	Everyone's going back?
	Yeah, and it's a paid vacation.
	No, but they're going back.
	Did you read this this morning?
	Half of the furloughed workers are going back.
	Yeah.
	Because they're getting paid anyway.
	Right.
	I know.
	This whole thing's a joke.
	So here's...
	I got another moneymaker here for you.
	I got two clips.
	One is truancy, part one, and truancy, part two.
	First play, this is a horrible situation.
	Truancy.
	And by the way, this also...
	It's plain hooky, right?
	It's not showing up for school.
	It's not going to school.
	Not going to school.
	Yeah?
	Want me to play it?
	Yeah, part one, sorry.
	250,000 California kids are expected to miss a tenth of the school year, and research shows that first graders who miss more than nine days of school a year are twice as likely to drop out in high school.
	So what?
	Okay.
	First of all, that's a cause and effect that's bullcrap.
	So let's just get that out of the way.
	If somebody's missing a lot of school, it's not because they missed the school.
	They have other problems, which probably causes them to miss school and probably causes further problems up the road.
	You've got a hangover, high on weed, whatever.
	You can't always go to school.
	Now, here's the part.
	This is the part besides that being bogus.
	I want to play part two, and then this is where, again, I get into the numbers thing.
	In San Jose, Chris Sanchez, NBC Bay Area News.
	Thanks, Chris.
	And more details now.
	As Chris just mentioned, California school districts lose $1.4 billion a year because of truancy.
	It's proven that chronically truant students are likely to drop out or turn to crime.
	And the cost of incarceration, lost productivity, and dropouts cost California more than $46 billion a year.
	Yeah, okay, even I'm like, what?!
	What bullcrap!
	$46 billion a year because the kid didn't show up?
	Yeah.
	Why?
	And how do you get to $1.4 billion a year because the kid didn't show up?
	So in other words, you got your school...
	I'll tell you what the problem is.
	Someone's stealing.
	No, the one...
	The $1.4 billion is because the state is sold out to the federal government who pays on a per-head basis.
	They don't care about educating anybody.
	If the kids shows up, I think the state gets $100 or something like that.
	And so the kids don't show up, they don't get the money from the feds, and that's why they have to keep careful enrollment records.
	Billy, you here?
	Yeah, bed, Joanie.
	And they won't lie.
	I don't know why not.
	And that's why homeschoolers...
	Schooling is frowned upon because those are kids that could be making money for the state.
	So the kids have become a profit item, a profit center, by showing up.
	I see.
	If you can't keep the kid in school, you get less money.
	Right.
	Well, this is the charter school issue, right?
	This is the Department of Education at work.
	I had an interesting dinner last night, and I've been sworn to secrecy about...
	But this does eventually lead back to...
	Wait a minute!
	Yes, I can't talk about it just yet.
	I can't.
	It would put someone in danger.
	Oh, okay.
	Like legal hassle danger.
	Because these guys, we let it all hang out.
	And by the way, come and sue us.
	Good luck.
	The word is called judgment proof.
	You want my microphone?
	What do you want?
	You can only take so much.
	You can't bleed money from a stone, my friends.
	So this all comes back to common core.
	It comes back to, interestingly enough, the Gulen movement.
	Remember we talked about this guy who's holed up in Pennsylvania?
	He's financed 50 charter schools in Texas.
	Right, and they're all Sharia Muslim schools.
	Yes, and it's all crazy curriculum.
	Well, the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation are involved in this as well.
	Surprise, surprise.
	And they just financed a study.
	This is how it works, by the way.
	Oh, yeah.
	Well, Bill learned this when he was at Microsoft.
	They'd finance bogus studies and then put them – I busted them on a couple of them years ago because I tracked down who – because they would never say who paid for the study.
	It would be like, why do people love Windows?
	And so obviously what was going on.
	So I called the company.
	I badgered them until they told me that Microsoft paid for the study and directed the study.
	So it's like, oh, come on.
	So the BMGF, Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, have financed the study.
	And the outcome of the study is astounding, John.
	K-12 teachers praised the Common Core standards as the perfect way to improve students' thinking skills.
	Woohoo!
	Data for the study was provided by a national online survey conducted by the Harrison Group, wherein 20,000 public school educators were questioned.
	There were 20,000 participants.
	The study was published by Scholastic Inc.
	These are all tied into this.
	And with the backing of, there it is, I told you to look out for them, the National Governors Association.
	Remember this bunch of jabronis?
	With their $50 million in the kitty?
	Yeah.
	$50 million?
	Your kids...
	It's mind-boggling, really, is what this is.
	Your kids are about to be pulled into a robotics program.
	And you must stop it.
	If you have CCSS, Common Core Scholastic Standards, in your state...
	And Texas says they don't have it, but they do.
	It's just called something different here.
	You have to stop this.
	You have to, and you've got to homeschool your kids.
	You cannot send them.
	It's like, public tap water is really no longer safe for human consumption anywhere in the world.
	By the way, you know what's good is that Zero device.
	Not the one that you were talking about, but you get at Costco.
	The water is delicious that comes out of that.
	No, I like my Berkey.
	And by the way, on this page that I'm looking at right here, there it is again.
	And I already have one.
	They could have marketed something else to me.
	Anyway.
	Oh, you're still getting paid for this.
	Oh, yeah.
	Oh, yeah.
	This is the greatest.
	Yeah, it's genius.
	Yeah, it works so well.
	Big data.
	It works so well.
	Big data at its best.
	Three lesson plans.
	Please check out commoncorecollective.com.
	I'm on their Facebook page.
	They've got a huge Facebook page.
	Well, commoncore.org.
	It's 513 likes.
	Hey, wait a minute.
	How can you be on a Facebook page if you don't have a Facebook account?
	It's one of the open...
	There's some Facebook pages.
	Okay.
	All right.
	No, all right.
	As long as you're...
	I believe you.
	Most of them I can't get on.
	Under the CCSS, new standards of learning have been implemented with the express purpose of dumbing down the population.
	Says that?
	I say this.
	Basic knowledge of the classics without a focus on reading comprehension.
	Reinvention of writing skill to focus on keyboard and typing skills for college and career readiness.
	And I think...
	So you can't even scribble out a note to your buddy when you're imprisoned.
	You can scratch your initials on the wall.
	You can't.
	No.
	They won't even teach printing.
	No handwriting.
	None.
	None.
	We have to stop all handwriting...
	Do you think that kids will literally no longer have the ability to write?
	Yes, I do.
	Hey, you just dropped in dog business again.
	Are you moving away?
	I didn't move anywhere.
	Really?
	This is frightening, John.
	Talk into the mic.
	I'm talking.
	I'm actually too close to the mic.
	I don't have a fist distance.
	That's really weird.
	Let me see what's going on over here.
	I keep talking for a minute.
	Hey, I'm talking away.
	Did you pause the recording?
	No.
	Oh, well, okay.
	Well, hello, everybody.
	Hello.
	So yeah, no, I believe that kids will not be able to write a word with their hands.
	In fact, it'll be alien, the whole idea.
	And by the way, the next step to that is they won't be able to read.
	But they will be able to sign their credit agreements with an X. Or a design, a little design, a little smiley face with a heart.
	Well, and this is another part, learning how to speak improperly by integrating slang and other alternative modes of communication, such as emoticons.
	Does that say that?
	This is what I'm saying.
	Oh, yeah.
	Yeah, there's a list.
	Okay, I'm reading from a website.
	Well, read from the list without ad-libbing, so I can actually hear what the list says.
	Okay, but this list is from people who are against Common Core.
	Oh.
	That's why I'm telling you.
	I'm giving you the anti-Common Core.
	Oh, okay.
	Okay.
	I misunderstood that you're actually reading from some talking points from Common Core.
	No, these are talking points from anti-Common Core.
	All right, well, those are valuable.
	Learning how to speak improperly, I would get that.
	Using media as a form of learning to train students to become dependent on mainstream media for their information, while de-emphasizing personal research and independent thought.
	Replacing cursive writing with courses on keyboard and focus on improving typing skills.
	Why is cursive writing important, John?
	I don't know.
	I think there is something very valuable to it, actually.
	Yeah, well, one thing, if you can't read it, you can use it as code very effortlessly.
	Right.
	That probably has something to do with the way the brain works.
	If you can do cursive and you can make it readable, I think it...
	Affects the way the brain's structured, as opposed to printing block letters like everybody does?
	But in ways, it's very...
	You see this system all across America, and it is government-sponsored.
	I will give you a...
	I'm going to reveal a huge secret, which has been revealed on this program before.
	And it's not a reveal anymore.
	It's a re-reveal.
	It's a re-reveal.
	The test for amateur radio operators in the United States, there's three levels, technician, general, and extra.
	In all three cases, the questions and the four multiple choice answers, by law, by government regulation, are published So that you can literally, and it is the same, you will not get all the questions.
	So you get a selection of the published questions.
	So there's 300 questions.
	And answers.
	Public questions with the answers.
	With the actual, and it's not just like one of them is no, it's the actual four answers that you will see on the test.
	The only difference is the order.
	So if you can remember the question and the answer of 300 questions, you will ace this test without any knowledge whatsoever of anything.
	And that is the standard of the American system.
	If you can memorize it, and by the way, I'm not entirely against that all the time.
	In this case, I feel that you're receiving a license to learn, And I kind of like that.
	But that's not how you want.
	You want kids to understand, to comprehend, and not just be good at testing, which is what it's all about.
	And this is being prophesied by Bill and Melinda Gates, the lizard people.
	This is why Indians do so well in these environments.
	Indians from India.
	The ones who never donate to the show.
	Because they're smart, apparently.
	No, no.
	They're good at memorization.
	They're extremely good at it because this was the last culture in the world, the last major culture that had a written language.
	And they even invented it themselves.
	It was given to them.
	It was Sanskrit.
	They had to memorize.
	Right, right, right.
	Everything.
	They had to memorize how the books were kept.
	They had to memorize stories.
	All the stuff that we would normally just say, well, go read Homer's book.
	Well, does that not mean?
	They are the memorization.
	They're genetically superior.
	So does that not mean that there's a valid point?
	What's the valid point?
	As long as you can memorize, you will be great.
	You can kick ass.
	Exactly.
	No, it's true.
	You don't have to know anything.
	You just have to know...
	Right.
	So if I look at India, it doesn't look like it's working for everybody.
	No, it's a horrible place.
	So maybe it's not such a great idea after all.
	I don't know what the problem is with India.
	They just don't have any respect.
	That's why they don't donate to the show.
	They have no respect.
	No respect.
	That's it.
	No respect.
	No respect.
	I'm going to show my support by donating to no agenda.
	Imagine all the people who could do that.
	Oh yeah, that'd be fab.
	Yeah, on the agenda In the morning Yeah, first I go after the white trash, then the Indians.
	It's not a good show for me.
	No, it's a great show.
	I think you're doing fine.
	Pedro, oh, Pedro, uh, Villafane, or Villafane, Villafane, I guess.
	Villafane.
	Oh, man, El Cid Campiador!
	Oh, it's El Cid Campiador from the fifth column.
	Of course, in Sepulpa, Oklahoma.
	He wants to round a comrade to everybody.
	Might as well give it to him.
	I suggest to watch the movie Colossus, the Forbin Project.
	Yeah, it's a great, great movie.
	What is it?
	I don't know of this movie.
	Oh, that's the movie where they create this computer that's kind of...
	It's actually more...
	It's a better movie to watch now than it was before the NSA stuff.
	It kind of takes...
	The computer kind of takes...
	The computer meets with another computer.
	It's very similar.
	Next thing you know, they're running the world.
	These computers.
	And it's actually a well-done science fiction movie.
	Oh, yeah.
	We'll put it on the list and here's a round of karma to everybody.
	You've got karma.
	He also has listed on there The Last Chase.
	Network, of course, is a classic.
	Yes, of course.
	But The Last Chase, I believe, is the one where the guy's got the sports car and he's shooting to free California, which was the last bastion of democracy in the world.
	It turns out you can get across the country, which is abandoned cars, so nobody can really travel around.
	And this guy gets there somehow.
	It's a very interesting movie.
	It's fun.
	Not as good as Death Race 2000.
	Hey, my buddy did Death Race 2 and 3.
	Oh, good for him.
	Did you get a bit part?
	I can get one in four, perhaps, yeah.
	Oh, I want to get in on this.
	I should be in Death Race.
	You and I can both be in the no-agenda car.
	We will die quickly.
	Yeah, kill us off at the beginning.
	Just have somebody blow us up with a Howards.
	I'm working on it, brother.
	I'm working on it.
	Sir Nate Wilson, 99.66 in Charleston, South Carolina.
	Anonymous in frivolous spending New Jersey.
	You know who you are.
	$75.
	Josh Morris.
	Hello?
	No, I see it.
	69!
	69, dudes!
	We have a bunch of 69-69ers today.
	Josh Morris in Kearney, Missouri.
	Christopher Gray in Grand Blanc, Michigan.
	Sam Menor in Box Hill, South Victoria.
	Penton Technologies in Tonawanda, New York.
	AJ in One Tree Hill, South Australia.
	Jeffrey Maxwell in Cranberry Township, Pennsylvania.
	And that closes our 69-69ers.
	69!
	69!
	Congratulations to all of you receiving your Swazilov Karma.
	For those of you who don't know, just think of what 69 means.
	Those who donate that amount usually get it.
	If they're lucky.
	Colin Callan Nistor in Northville, Michigan.
	These are all 6666 congratulatory.
	Sack of six.
	Sack of six guys.
	When is our anniversary?
	Our sixth anniversary is coming up on the 28th, 26th, or 28th?
	23rd.
	No, no, no.
	26th or the 28th.
	It could be the 23rd.
	How come we can't remember?
	Gary Howell.
	Houston, Texas.
	Lucas Zewa, I think.
	Zewa.
	Zewa.
	In Munich, Germany.
	Deutschland.
	That's nice.
	Baroness Tanya Wyman in New York, New York.
	She's got a birthday call out.
	I think she has a sling box, but I think it died.
	I don't think it works.
	Brandon St.
	Armand in Woodstock, Ontario.
	He drives 20 hours round trip every weekend to help his brother take care of their mom.
	Who's dying of cancer.
	It's terrible.
	And the show helps the hours go by more quickly.
	With the information, the laughs I get from you guys, worth way more than I can afford to give you right now.
	If you don't mind, I'd like to...
	Yeah, no, why would I mind?
	Give me a little bit of fuck cancer karma.
	You thought karma.
	If you don't mind.
	For everybody out there.
	Michael Bowling or Bowling, depending on how you want to pronounce it, in Goleta, California.
	Nick Barnes in North Canton, Ohio.
	Pre-Night of the Living Dead in Buxton, Derbyshire.
	And he's got a birthday coming up.
	Nice.
	And that closes our 66-66 group.
	We do have 66 flat out from Kenneth Cross in Felton, Pennsylvania.
	Also 55-55 from John W. Schumann in Madison, Wisconsin.
	Israel Cazares, Parts Unknown.
	Got a birthday thing coming up, $52.
	Barron Von Gerlach in Lincoln, California, $51.49.
	Sir Kevin Payne, $50.69.
	Chantilly, Virginia.
	Sir Jake Milligan, Las Wages, Nevada.
	The birthday boy.
	Michael Metaloni in Chicago.
	These are all $50.
	Raleigh Hawk in Anna, Illinois.
	Christopher Walker.
	Parts Unknown.
	Matthew Januszewski in Chicago.
	And finally, Patrick Macomb in Mount Vernon, New York.
	Sir Brett Farrell in Oklahoma City.
	Sir Alan Bean over here in Oakland, where Abby was from.
	And Bogdan Lachendo in Irvine, Texas.
	I want to thank every one of those folks for helping us do Show 554.
	We appreciate it.
	I want to remind people to go to Dvorak.org to continue to help us out.
	We do have a show coming up on Thursday.
	Hopefully the newsletter will arrive at its final destination for a change.
	And I would also like to just add Raleigh Hawk was sending out some love to the love of his life, Robin, for a speedy recovery from her car wreck, along with his donation there.
	I just wanted to mention that one.
	Right.
	Well, okay.
	Didn't quite make up for Thursday, but thank you very much.
	We highly appreciate the support of the program.
	This is the only way we can do it.
	Go to Dvorak.org slash NA. More and more people seem to be using the PO box for checks, though.
	That seems to be working out quite well.
	Yeah, a lot of people have done the deal with the bank.
	You go to the bank and you do a time payment plan and you say you want to send the No Agenda show.
	You got the name, the address, everything's available there on the support page.
	And we get a check every month.
	A lot of people send us $50 a month.
	Oh, yeah.
	I just got a note from someone who upgraded from $11.11 to $50 a month.
	Yeah.
	And also, you know, there's no fees for us involved, right?
	And there's no fees for them, usually.
	So it's kind of a win-win-win.
	It's kind of funny when they come in because there's like apparently, from what I can tell, there are maybe five processing centers that take care of all the banks.
	Oh, that's right.
	They bundle them all and they send them all in one way.
	Well, that's the funny thing is that most of them send individual checks except for all the little credit.
	Because I check the banks.
	Chase has their own system.
	There's a bunch of crazy systems.
	I'm going to probably make a video of them because they're interesting to me.
	But there's one group, and it's usually small credit unions, small banks, and a whole bunch of others.
	They have a system that they bundle all the checks in one envelope from all the different people.
	And so you open this envelope, and there's like maybe 10, 20 checks in there, maybe five.
	There's always more than one or two.
	But everybody else sends a check.
	It just seems like a money loser because they're sending a check and a check and a check as opposed to these guys who pile them into one envelope and pay one postage.
	Well, it certainly works for us, so we appreciate that.
	Anyway, it doesn't affect the contributor producer, but it just affects the banks, and you have to wonder about some of these banks.
	And, of course, thank you to Sir David Foley, Jonathan Rose, Liam Hemmings, Paul Simon, and Daniel Gray for being our executive producers and associate executive producers.
	And thank you to everyone.
	No matter what you have donated or what you have done, we appreciate it.
	It's the only way we make it work.
	But we do make it work somehow, miraculously.
	Dvorak.org slash N.A. So Jono, Jonathan Rose, he celebrated last week.
	We'll be knighting him in a moment, so we congratulate him after the fact.
	Baroness Tanya Wyman turning, well, celebrating today, I should say.
	We don't talk about ages of our Baronesses here on the show.
	The pre-Knight of the Living Dead, Morgan Blake, celebrated last Thursday.
	Israel Cazaris...
	We'll celebrate this coming Wednesday.
	Jacob Milligan says happy birthday to his brother Matt.
	He turned 29 on Thursday.
	And AJ from One True Hill celebrates on the 12th.
	Happy birthday from your friends here at the best podcast in the universe.
	Yeah, it's a little annoying.
	That was static.
	And we've got...
	Oh, actually, today, Sir Nate, that's Sir GQ, becomes a baronet.
	So he'll be on his way to barrenhood very soon.
	He's probably our most handsome patron.
	Is that right?
	Oh, he's Sir GQ. Oh.
	The guy's smoking hot.
	You can't call yourself that unless you're good looking.
	Yeah, exactly.
	Because that would be wrong.
	It would be wrong.
	That would be very wrong.
	Hey, Jonathan Rhodes!
	Step forward, sir.
	Nice to see you joining our knights here at the round table along with the dames, the barons, the dukes, the grand dukes.
	And today we are very proud to add you to the list and hereby pronounce the Sir Jono, Elder of Zion.
	Come on over for your hookers and blows.
	Thank you again for your support.
	This is actually a guy who went from not being very angry with us, if I recall.
	Yeah, no, no.
	He was one of these people tweeting, You suck!
	You don't know anything about it!
	In exactly that voice.
	That same voice that this guy has.
	It's the same guy.
	There's a lot of people with that voice.
	Yes.
	So he went from one of those to becoming Sir Jono, Elder of Zion.
	I find this to be a personal victory.
	There's still a bunch of wives out there.
	I do want to say something about that.
	It's usually guys, although there's an occasional gal that has this, but just because you've gotten it, all of a sudden, for some people, it is almost like lightning striking.
	And particularly when they've listened to our show, heard us, maybe they follow along, and they're like, nah, I don't believe everything those guys say.
	I don't agree with everything they say.
	And then all of a sudden things start to come true and turn out to be kind of questionably right.
	This is where you have to be careful with your spouse.
	Because I hear a lot of guys like, oh, I'm trying to hit my wife in the mouth, man, but she doesn't get it.
	She rolls her eyes!
	It's okay.
	You've got to go slow.
	Slow.
	It's hard.
	And no matter what your social circumstance is, you have to take it easy.
	Go very slow with people because they have no patience and they will lock you up.
	Do you know that my ex-wife at one point, I heard from my daughter, that she was looking at the definition of schizophrenia around the time we started the show?
	She was Googling that.
	I think my husband is crazy.
	He's crazy as a loon.
	That was also when I told my daughter she could only drink the rainwater I captured and not from the faucet.
	Oh, yeah.
	You were kind of...
	I don't think schizophrenic's the right word.
	What is the right word?
	This is you and the cars that go on...
	Ah, my car put water in the gas tank.
	That's not true.
	It was...
	Now, come on.
	I didn't put water in the gas tank.
	It was a hydroxy booster.
	And I still believe it worked.
	You don't have to believe it.
	Oh, it didn't.
	You just dropped down all your biscuits again.
	I haven't done anything.
	I know you haven't done anything.
	Okay, here's what we'll do.
	When it happens again, why don't you just say nothing so you don't know and then we can just pretend and go on and have no one hear you.
	Well, I don't know.
	What are we going to do about this?
	Is your Skype on automatic something?
	Is something on automatic?
	Is there some volume control on automatic?
	Because I'm not on anything automatic here.
	Yeah, well, that's always been true.
	Let me find my Skype options.
	I mean, you are literally just dropping out.
	It's like this.
	I'll give you an example.
	My speakers are on automatic.
	How about the mic?
	Oh, yeah.
	Oh, gee, was it on automatic?
	So?
	Holy shit.
	What was that?
	What just happened?
	What did you do?
	I don't know.
	Is it doing something weird?
	Now I'm hearing myself really loud.
	I'm moving the little blue dot all over the place.
	Okay.
	I'll move it back down.
	It's the little blue dial, really?
	Okay, I'm going to do a bunch of levels.
	There's a little blue dot.
	I'm moving around.
	Is this good?
	Yeah, it's great.
	You're great now.
	Okay, I'm going to leave it right there.
	Don't touch a thing.
	It's perfect.
	Hey, so there's some trouble in paradise.
	I don't know if you've noticed this, but right on the heels of us talking about the potential for this Silk Road takedown being involved in explaining that the Tor network is completely safe.
	You can use it whenever you want.
	Trouble in paradise.
	A Twitter war between former WikiLeaks employee James Ball...
	Glenn Greenwald and Jacob Applebaum.
	Did you follow any of this?
	Well, no.
	You got me on this one.
	I'm going to have to go check it out.
	I have tons of links in the show notes.
	Let me see.
	I'm actually pulling up the Twitter thread right now.
	And so here's Jacob Applebaum.
	Now, Jacob Applebaum is the guy who's a part of this $1.3 million nonprofit enterprise, financed primarily by consulting work they do.
	What was it?
	SRI? Was that the...
	Stanford.
	It used to be Stanford Research.
	Yes, Stanford Research Institute.
	It's actually...
	Now it's just called SRA. It doesn't have a name anymore.
	Right.
	By some Swedish think tank.
	So that's a think tank, some Swedish think tank.
	By the Internews Network, which is a propaganda arm of the State Department, USAID, funded $50 million plus...
	So it's really not even funded by the military anymore, who we're very quick to point out they don't fund it anymore.
	And so this came just before the latest revelations, or should I say, PowerPoints were released.
	Here's Jacob Applebaum.
	James, when are you going to release the Torah story?
	Will you comment on the redaction request from the White House and the GCHQ? And, you know, it just kind of degrades from there.
	So this James Ball guy...
	Can I point something out?
	Yeah.
	Are you on Twitter now?
	Yes.
	What is the point of Jacob Applebaum's creepy picture?
	Because the guy's a creep.
	It's a very creepy picture.
	Let me take a look at it closer.
	Yeah, well, and why does he have Arabic in his...
	Yeah, why does he have Arabic in his thing?
	So his handle is ioerror, and under his Twitter subtext there, or sub...
	Whatever you call it.
	Cast Iron Club and Amphersand Amphersand something in Arabic.
	Amphersand Amphersand ethics enthusiasts.
	The village be seeing you.
	Yeah, not creepy at all, dude.
	But if you look at it, these are all like little masturbatory boys.
	Look at this James Ball.
	Who is the data editor of The Guardian now, apparently.
	They're all in fights.
	James Ball used to be...
	Cat fight.
	Yeah, he used to be Assange's buddy.
	And here's his Twitter...
	Data editor of the Guardian, City University lecturer, leakers of wikis, former, readers of riots, secretor of offshores, filer of NSAs.
	What?
	Do these boys realize that this sounds pretty sad?
	James Ball.
	Anyway, so they come out with this report, which I guess Applebaum knew that the report was coming.
	And it's not a report.
	Did you see these PowerPoints?
	No, I haven't.
	I'm not on this.
	But I'm going to give you what the translation of the Arabic is.
	I don't know what that is.
	Love and life in a short time.
	Nice.
	So the Guardian publishes...
	Apparently NSA GCHQ PowerPoints regarding the Tor network and how NSA has been trying to compromise it with some success.
	But indeed, as Applebaum said in this Twitter fight...
	There are lots of pieces redacted, so you can't actually figure out what the NSA does or does not know.
	But it seems like they have compromised certain things.
	Certainly when it comes to the Tor bundle, we kind of knew that.
	But what I just found interesting is that all these WikiLeaks boys are all kind of fighting amongst each other.
	Yeah, that's a bad sign.
	Yeah, you know what I mean?
	Let me see.
	I think actually First Policy may have had a good story on them.
	Anyway, it just seems like the fight that we think initially was kind of between CIA, NSA, and only Lord knows where the FBI is in all of this, with their new Comey guy, the former HSBC Bank Board of Directors member.
	Glenn Greenwald is becoming more interesting to observe.
	And he was the subject of a BBC Newsnight interview, which I thought was interesting because a lot of people were yelling on Twitter, all caps, That the woman who was doing the interview, Kirstie, whatever her name is, she was a horrible journalist and how dare she ask these crazy, stupid questions.
	I thought actually a lot of her questions were quite valid.
	It's a style that they have on that show.
	They all do it.
	I did pull a couple of clips from that because some things became apparent to me about Glenn Greenwald and the Guardian and how this is taking place and what we're really witnessing unfolding before us right here.
	But first, kind of the obvious question that was asked, and I give Glenn Greenwald props for answering this in a very straightforward, no agenda manner.
	Terrorists!
	Would-be terrorists change their tactics.
	So it is very possible that you actually, by your actions, make it easier for terrorists to understand how to evade all the checks that are made on them online.
	That's completely ludicrous.
	And by the way, it's interesting, they had like a two-second satellite delay in this interview, and what's fun is she'll start to interject, but Greenwald won't respond to it until two seconds later.
	Right, because of the latency.
	Yeah, because he's kind of like yelling at himself all of a sudden.
	It's very Tourette's-like.
	The premise of your question is entirely false.
	We've shown much more than just the mere collection of metadata.
	We've shown all sorts of invasions into the content of communications between innocent people having conversations with one another online through emails, online chat, collection of their browsing history.
	The idea that terrorists didn't know that the United States and UK governments were trying to monitor their communications is laughable.
	Of course, every terrorist who's capable of tying their own shoes has long known that the UK and US governments are trying to monitor their communications.
	The only thing we've informed people of is that the spying system is aimed at them.
	I like that.
	Okay, good answer.
	Makes sense.
	Yes, obviously.
	She's following the talking points.
	He comes back with a valid answer.
	Now, this is where Glenn gave us some information that I don't think was necessarily known, but leads me to believe we may not know who we're really dealing with when it comes to Mr.
	Snowden.
	The thing is, could it possibly be on a memory stick in your pocket?
	I mean, people want to know how you think you can keep things safe.
	Well, I'll be happy to answer that.
	That was what I was about to tell you when you interrupted.
	There's only one group of people who has lost control of huge amounts of what they claim are important documents.
	And those people are called the GCHQ and the NSA. The GCHQ took documents that they claim are so very sensitive and put them onto a system at the NSA that...
	Tens of thousands of people have access to.
	We at The Guardian have protected all of our data with extremely advanced methods of encryption, and our documents have remained completely secure.
	We have not lost control of any of our material.
	That remains entirely secure.
	Two snaps, girlfriend.
	Now, that's interesting.
	So what he's saying, the way I translated that...
	Is that Edward J. Mr.
	Snowden was able to grab all of these documents because they were available to tens of thousands of people.
	I think he kind of let something out of the bag there that was heretofore unknown.
	Would you agree that's possible, that that's kind of what slipped out there?
	Well, I... I think Snowden indicated that people at his level, or that it was easy to grab this stuff.
	Again, of course, we still have no...
	This could be a piece of false data that Greenwald believes to be true, and it still might be possible that this is not true, and our basic thesis that the CIA gave Snowden the material to embarrass the agency.
	So here's what I'm thinking.
	First of all, These are PowerPoints, all right?
	You know, this is not code.
	You know, let's be very realistic for a moment.
	Is the PowerPoint saying something with a pretty diagram, not even, with bad clip art all over the place?
	I have not seen any actual code as to how it works.
	I have...
	No evidence other than what we've seen on drawings of splitting of fiber.
	We see the NSA data warehouse in Utah.
	We don't know anything other than PowerPoints is what I'm saying.
	It's an ad.
	It's possible it was a search engine.
	It did search star.ppt.
	It could be anything.
	Yeah, exactly.
	But, if it is true that tens of thousands of people have access to this marketing material, which is the way I view it, how do we know that the person who Glenn Greenwald is communicating with and Laura Poitras is communicating with, security through secure channels, how do we know it's actually Snowden?
	How do we know it's not just some operative?
	How do we know it's not a whole room full of guys?
	Because the only proof that Greenwald...
	Who knows that he initially met with the guy is explained in this story.
	It's interesting, because this is, in some ways, the elements of a spy film, because when you first met him, I understand that.
	How did you identify him when you first met him?
	Right.
	I had no idea how old he was.
	This, by the way, is a set-up question.
	They agreed in this in the pre-interview.
	Like, oh yeah, tell us about how you figured out who he was.
	You can hear her asking the pre-agreed question.
	Who he was, what he looked like before I first met him.
	And so the plan was, he had asked us to go to a part of the hotel where he was staying in at a designated time.
	And he said that he would enter that room and we would know him because he was carrying a Rubik's Cube.
	And we went at the designated time.
	He wasn't there.
	We came back at the second time that he had given us.
	He showed up a couple of minutes later carrying a Rubik's Cube, and that was how we knew that it was our source that we had been communicating.
	So, that's how you knew that it was your source at the time after they killed the real guy?
	Well, is that not possible in this spy novel, as they say it?
	No, it's very possible.
	When you're talking to him and you're communicating through your secure channels, Glenn Greenwald...
	Does a Rubik's Cube show up?
	How do you know it's him?
	How do you know it's not the CIA or some other agency who was really running the show and are pissed at the Kaiser Alexander for having a cool office looking like the Enterprise and are just rolling out whatever they feel is appropriate to you?
	There's no evidence.
	There's no evidence that any of this stuff exists.
	There's no evidence that it's coming from this guy named Snowden.
	Right, and we also know that Snowden's girlfriend disappeared, and they put their house up in Hawaii up for sale just immediately thereafter, and there's a bunch of mysterious things happening around that situation that's never been explained, like the boxes and all the rest.
	And Greenwald is still prepared to cover up and lie about basic facts that we have debunked clearly on this podcast.
	I wonder though, with Edward Snowden, whether or not his position in Russia, I mean, you know, if he tried to travel, look what happened, look what the Americans did, you know, to the presidential plane, the Bolivian presidential plane, over European territory.
	I'm sorry, the Americans did nothing to the Bolivian plane, nothing at all.
	We have proof.
	They landed.
	Under false pretense of something wrong with their fuel indicators, there was no forced landing, so that's a lie.
	Glenn, should you dispel?
	Glenn, say something!
	Does he really feel all that safe?
	The Russians have only said they'd keep him for a year.
	Well, remember, he didn't choose to be in Russia.
	He was trying to pass through Russia, and the United States government basically forced him to be there by revoking his passport and preventing other countries from letting him transit through.
	I'm sorry, another blatant lie.
	Your passport does not explode when we've read verbatim from the State Department.
	Revoking a passport means when you come back into the United States, you will be apprehended.
	There is no central passport system when you go to a country that says, oh, I'm sorry, your passport is going to melt.
	We have to cut it like a credit card.
	This does not exist.
	It's a lie, Glenn Greenwalds.
	But he certainly, given the alternative, which is a supermax prison in the United States where he's disappeared for the next 40 years, I think he's quite content to be where he is.
	So where I like Greenwald for a lot of things, it's these things that really bug me about the guy.
	Yeah, yeah, I can see that bugging you.
	And it is annoying.
	I mean, there's no reason to...
	There's no...
	Practical reason is just like a weak talking point about the forced landing and then the misunderstanding about revoking a passport that's in play in a foreign country.
	It's a lie.
	It's a lie and he knows it's a lie.
	So, there's two other things that fit into the snow job category for this week.
	One is, unfortunately, still no video or audio of, and we talked about this just before the end of the last show, but now, of course, we have the reports everywhere, that Hayden...
	Former chief of the NSA and Mike Rogers, who was the chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, were, of course, joking around, laughing that they wanted to put Snowden on the hit list.
	Yeah.
	Kill list.
	Snowden's been nominated for a European Human Rights Award, whatever that is.
	Shit, we should do our own Human Rights Award so we can get some press.
	I know we should.
	Rewards are fun.
	Yeah, and anyone can do him.
	A European.
	So his human rights are only valid in Europe.
	His award.
	He has to take the award off if he travels outside of Europe.
	I heard that.
	So they were joking about putting him on the kill list.
	At least according to some tweets.
	A lot of people.
	The Washington Post.
	Well, maybe they were.
	I don't understand why they didn't have a tape of it.
	Well, it's there.
	I mean, I immediately went to cspanvideo.org.
	That's usually where they have these things, but if it was recorded...
	I don't think they were covering that event.
	It's unfortunate.
	And the other thing...
	What was the other thing that I had here?
	Oh, yes.
	Adobe, who, of course, are...
	And by the way, what is Hayden's dog in the hunt?
	You know, his whole thing is he's borderline under indictment for promoting the torture program that was done under his jurisdiction.
	And he's been apologizing for it.
	Not apologizing for it, but rationalizing it on various...
	Which you've caught him doing on one of the clips I had some time ago.
	What is he doing right now?
	Is he a member of the Chertoff group?
	No.
	Oh yeah, he's one of those guys.
	I think he's in the Chertoff group.
	Let's look him up.
	Yes, you know what we should do is...
	Let's see.
	Is it Michael Hayden?
	I can't remember his first name.
	Yeah, Michael Hayden.
	I don't know if he's still...
	I'm pretty sure...
	Yes, currently principal at the Chertoff group.
	Yeah, of course.
	So he's out there.
	He's a sales guy.
	You watch.
	I bet you he has brown shoes.
	All sales guys have brown shoes.
	Do you think he still wears...
	Does he still wear his uniform when he's out and about?
	He doesn't do that, does he?
	No.
	He can't do that.
	I have to give him credit for that.
	Although, if you look at his weekly...
	I think he gave all his little chevrons to that woman at the police department.
	Yeah.
	So she could wear them.
	So he's a sales guy.
	So he's out there making sure everyone's really worried about stuff.
	Selling, you know, Chertoff Group services to everybody.
	Scanners and whatever else they got.
	Meanwhile, Adobe, who of course we know are truly involved in tracking people openly and are selling these services to the government.
	We have the white paper from them.
	We've put it in the show notes before.
	What is it?
	Adobe Connect?
	Is that what it was called?
	I forgot.
	Not Adobe Connect.
	I'll find it.
	Where they're literally selling to the government all the information they glean from Flash, essentially.
	From all the crap that is in Flash and all the stuff that's in their Adobe Acrobat products.
	The government uses tracking in Adobe Acrobat all over the place.
	When you fill out forms in Adobe, immigration forms, you cannot use Preview on the Mac.
	You have to use the official Adobe program, and it's sending information back about who accessed the form, who filled it out.
	And of course the Adobe, and I've always wondered how this works, how does the Adobe program get permission on my Mac to continuously ask to be updated?
	Have you ever wondered that?
	Well, I think they do it so often that you get so annoyed you never wonder.
	The Mac has the software update, and when it's time, you get your iTunes and all this other stuff.
	But the only program that bugs me individually, separately, to be upgraded without starting the program is Adobe.
	Oh, you mean out of the blue it comes in?
	Just out of the blue, yeah.
	How does it get permission to do that?
	There's obviously a piece of code that they've implanted on the machine that is calling home all the time saying, hey, do I need to tell this idiot to upgrade?
	But the fact that it can actually give me this warning without starting the program means something is running from Adobe without me having Adobe Acrobat, without me having asked to start the program.
	In fact, I'm going to do this right now.
	This is kind of driving me nuts.
	And I know some techno expert out there will help us.
	Okay, well here we go.
	You're going to look on the Windows.
	I'm going to look on the Mac.
	I've got my processes open.
	Adobe.
	And I haven't taken these out.
	And there's one right here.
	So it shows up.
	Let me stop this thing from jumping around.
	I have nothing running on this one that says Adobe.
	I have Firefox.
	I got that.
	Flash Player is running, and I got two of them.
	One's a short one, which I believe is the one that's the call-home Flash Player.
	It just says Flash Player 11.800.
	Let's see if there's anything else.
	I have...
	No, I don't have...
	I love how people in the chat go, why are you using Adobe Adnan?
	Well, because I had to do forms for immigration for my wife.
	Isn't that what I just said?
	You didn't say it for my wife.
	Okay.
	I've said this before.
	How else would I know it?
	When you fill out forms for immigration, you have to use this.
	Well, how else would I know it?
	All right, it doesn't matter.
	There you go.
	Well, that's the easiest way to keep track of you.
	Yeah.
	I mean, come on.
	I'm the government.
	You're going to be filling out some form.
	I said, ah, this guy.
	Anyway, Adobe, of course, they are right next to the NSA data center in Utah.
	Conveniently, what do you think?
	Do they share the same power?
	Is that all they're sharing?
	So if I go to services, which is really hard to edit, I see Adobe ARM and Adobe Flash in there doing something.
	One of them is running, which is the Adobe, this one here is the Acrobat thing, which I'm not using, so why is that going?
	I see it.
	The Adobe Reader Updater.
	Is running on the Mac.
	I got that here too.
	I got here, I got two of them.
	Adobe Flash, which is the Adobe Flash update service.
	And I got the Adobe Acrobat update service.
	And these are obviously running as a service, not a process.
	And they are commonly, I would assume, calling the home.
	Yeah, hold on.
	No one ever asked me if it was okay for those to be installed and running.
	So I just quit that.
	It's probably in the login item or something.
	It's probably...
	Yeah.
	Well, here's another one.
	Oh, wait a minute.
	Why is there two of them?
	That's to start up your webcam and microphone.
	Luckily, I have a piece of gaffer's tape.
	Well, anyway, Adobe says data on 2.9 million customers was compromised.
	Yeah, I know.
	I saw that.
	They said that was from the creative cloud.
	How do we interpret this?
	I would take it straight up.
	There's about that many users of the creative cloud.
	There better be more than that.
	There's a lot.
	They're making you go there, whether you like it or not.
	And they stole a bunch of credit card data and the rest of it, so they had to send embarrassing notices out.
	How does this kind of thing happen?
	All the cloud services are going to have this happen to them, by the way.
	I don't think this is part of the scheme.
	Of course it is.
	It's already happening.
	I saw this cool new thing.
	What was it called?
	The Arc OS? Which looked kind of interesting.
	It's like your own personal cloud.
	You build it on a Raspberry Pi.
	Yeah, that's what I want to do.
	Are you being facetious?
	Yeah.
	I don't want to build a Raspberry Pi.
	You don't have to build it.
	You don't have to build it.
	I don't want one.
	Well, then live in the clouds, young man.
	Enjoy your life there.
	I'm not living in the cloud.
	I'm the guy who keeps everything in a home base.
	I could turn off my internet and I'd actually have a computer that works.
	Well, your email's in the cloud.
	Yeah, that's the only thing that is.
	Yeah.
	Really?
	Yeah.
	Well, PayPal.
	Mm-hmm.
	What else?
	I'd say that's two rather important details.
	I can't do PayPal outside the cloud, but I have been trying to move people to checks.
	It's true.
	Uh...
	Yeah, those are two things.
	I can't do anything about it.
	Twitter's in the cloud.
	Keep going.
	You'd be amazed how much is in the cloud, my friend, when you really think about it.
	Well, everything's in the cloud.
	The cloud just means it's on the internet.
	I'm the one guy who's advocated shutting the internet down.
	Nobody else goes in that direction.
	Shut it down?
	Nobody, including you.
	No!
	And I love this McAfee coming out, who, by the way, is coked out.
	Now, with him, I can see it.
	Have you seen him?
	Touching his nose, wiping his nose, squeezing his nose?
	Yeah, now you're getting a clue here of what to look for.
	Well, that's easy.
	I mean, he can't stop.
	Well, that's because he's really coked out.
	Yeah.
	He was on, what was it, Cavuto?
	He was on with Cavuto.
	Cavuto is like, yes, my friend John McAfee.
	And he's like, oh, I'm going to build this box and it'll decentralize.
	And they're like, oh my God.
	This is clearly sitting around eating mushrooms.
	Hey, I got a great idea, man.
	We'll build a mesh network.
	How do I call it?
	Decentralize.
	And this guy's getting air time.
	Yeah.
	That's sad.
	It's not going to happen that way.
	Neil Cavuto, yeah.
	Yeah, McAfee's a wreck.
	Yeah, you know him?
	You ever met him?
	He still owes me dinner.
	For what?
	For my buying him a dinner.
	He was supposed to pick up and he didn't.
	It wasn't a bet or anything?
	Sorry?
	It was not a bet or anything?
	It was just his turn?
	Yeah.
	So you know him.
	So let's talk about this guy.
	Can you talk about him?
	Well, I know him before he ran out of the country.
	Yeah.
	He was the guy, he actually, to me, to my way of thinking, he's one of the greatest marketing guys you'll ever find.
	He's the one who invented the entire market.
	He made computer viruses popular.
	There were no computer viruses when he first showed up.
	He created a market for them, is what you're saying.
	Yes.
	There was a couple of little pranks that came around.
	This is the era.
	This is very early in the 80s.
	Where there was really no computer viruses.
	And to the point there was none.
	This is the irony of the whole thing.
	Peter Norton actually made a public statement that there was no such thing as a computer virus.
	You can look this up and it's very funny because he ended up doing the antivirus for Symantec.
	So McAfee had a little newsletter and he began to popularize the guys.
	He was like the Billboard Hot 100 of virus guys.
	Yeah, so he would make a stink every time one would be discovered, and he started to popularize them, and people would get publicity so that it became a subculture.
	Right, yes.
	Then he wrote out an antivirus product.
	And do you remember how the first ones worked?
	I think the first viruses, if I recall correctly, were the ones that would grab your address book in your Microsoft...
	Was it Outlook at that point?
	Maybe not.
	Maybe it was Outlook that started it all.
	And it would grab every single address in your...
	Because you'd click on an attachment.
	I remember that.
	Hey!
	To be honest about it, that is late in the game.
	I thought that was kind of the first ones.
	No, no.
	There was a bunch of these really...
	The earliest viruses were these things that were passed around in different forms, usually from floppy disk to floppy disk.
	And you'd boot the thing and it would erase your hard disk.
	But those were no fun.
	No, they weren't any fun.
	No, those were lame.
	That's the ones he started to popularize.
	And then these later ones, the one you're talking about, like the I Love You virus.
	Oh, yeah.
	Remember that?
	Well, that was good.
	McAfee, I believe, by the time those showed up, he was already out with $100 million.
	Wow.
	He had made tons of money just selling his company to one of these guys.
	I guess it was Symantec.
	And he was done, and he took his $100 million.
	And I met him and chatted with him just before.
	And clearly bought him dinner.
	Went public.
	He had a good place, too.
	Mm-hmm.
	And then I didn't hear from him again.
	He's like one of those classic guys that was in tech and then he made money left.
	And then fuck you, Dvorak.
	Who needs you?
	Well, he pretty much bailed on everyone.
	And then I heard that he was up in some mountain chalet that he'd built with some of his money and Colorado Hills.
	And then I, again, didn't hear about him for a long time.
	And then I find out he has his place in New Mexico.
	And then, boom, all of a sudden he's in Belize.
	And now he's completely...
	On drugs and he's advocating everyone should be stoned all the time and be with hookers.
	And it all went crazy.
	The guy went nuts.
	And then he went broke.
	This is an American success story.
	Yeah, I love it.
	Skyrocket to fame and then crash.
	One of the few guys who actually...
	There's a bunch of these guys who...
	I'm not so sure he's broke, by the way.
	Oh, he probably has a few mil, but I don't think he has his wealth.
	He's back in the country.
	The IRS is not going to let this guy get away with hiding money.
	Oh, is that the deal?
	He was hiding money?
	Well, we don't know.
	That's what he'd have to be doing to be rich.
	You know where the new place is?
	Where a lot of guys are going?
	In fact, one of our friends has just purchased a place there, and we will be allowed to go visit, is Panama.
	Yeah, I heard Panama's going to get hot.
	Panama seems to be really nice, too.
	They're turning into a Costa Rica-like operation.
	Right, and they've got great bandwidth and great infrastructure.
	There's a lot of banks there, and there's just a lot going on.
	But apparently a lot of dudes with money are going to Panama.
	Yeah, I've heard Panama.
	So we have an invite.
	Alright.
	But not you.
	Do a show from down there.
	Well, that was...
	I'm like immediately, is there enough bandwidth?
	I'll come.
	Yeah, we'll come down.
	We'll hang out.
	I'd love that.
	Anyway, I got some stuff left over here.
	We really only have time for one or two because we're running a little bit over.
	Well, let me just do the one thing, though.
	No, let me not do that.
	Oh, let me do...
	Yeah, let me do this one thing.
	I thought this was an interesting story since it was...
	I was actually the editor of Infoworld when this bullcrap began.
	This is how long ago it was.
	Play the electronics device on a plane story.
	The FAA is getting even closer to letting you fly with your cell phone or iPad turned on.
	They've been investigating this issue for a couple of weeks now, but their social committee has officially said that Wi-Fi won't cause the plane to malfunction.
	Your cell phone will not bring down a 747, and Alec Baldwin can still play words with friends on it.
	But make no mistake about it.
	The rule isn't on the books yet, but the study means that someday it will finally be there.
	I have an actual opinion on this, so I'd love to hear what your thoughts are.
	I don't have an opinion.
	I just thought the whole thing was nonsense from the beginning.
	Just another way for crowd control.
	I don't like the idea of people talking on cell phones, which is almost impossible to do anyway from a plane.
	But even trying it, because you're going from too many towers to towers.
	And this was always sketchy.
	And I always thought it was just a bogus idea, and I was always annoyed by the commentary, because we wrote about this and said, this is bullcrap, there's no evidence of this.
	And then people would always chime in.
	This is when I really got started.
	This is when I became a no-agenda guy.
	People would start writing in, oh, better to be safe than sorry!
	Yeah, well, let me tell you what the real facts are.
	Now, when this initially started, and I have proof because I got busted for doing this, in the early days of early, early cell phones, the radios were very different than what they were today.
	And there was absolutely, certainly with the higher output, I had a, there was an, do you remember the HP palm top?
	Remember that crazy thing?
	It was like plastic and it was kind of the size of, I don't know, like three times the size of an iPhone.
	You'd flip the lid open and it had kind of a bad LCD screen and then you had a keyboard on one side.
	And you could jam a PC card in there from the RIM network.
	Which I think, didn't the RIM network eventually become BlackBerry?
	I always thought there always were Blackberry.
	No, no, no.
	It started as the RIM network, and they had towers around the U.S., but certainly New York, and it was a one-watt card.
	It was quite powerful, and you could send email messages, and it was a very slow process, but it would work, and Ron Bloom and I, we would fly, this was during the...
	Think New Ideas days, and we'd fly coach and not always together, and we'd be like four, five, six, seven rows apart.
	But we could still use this rim communicator thing, even at 10,000, 20,000 feet, because it was one watt and there was nothing else really going on at the time.
	We're talking 94, 95 at this point.
	And we used this, and at one point, we actually, you know, the pilot actually said, we're having an issue.
	Yeah, with a what?
	Yes, we're having an issue with the navigation.
	Could everyone make sure their cell phones are turned off?
	And, you know, and we turned off our stuff, and the pilot was like, okay.
	And I'm pretty sure that was us.
	I wouldn't be surprised, but you're talking about a what?
	Yeah, of course.
	So that was crazy.
	You're the kind of guy that caused the problem.
	Yeah.
	However...
	As we move towards newer technologies and GSM, etc., the problem is, and much better radios, the problem is not interference in the navigation system.
	There's only one reason this has not been allowed, and the reason why it will be allowed will become evident.
	When these radios, either for Wi-Fi or for telephony, are trying to find a cell, you know the sound.
	You hear it on television all the time.
	Eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh.
	And that bleeds through, very often bleeds through into the cockpit, into the headsets.
	That is the only reason why it is not allowed, because it's annoying, it's distracting, it could distract from the communications.
	Once you put Wi-Fi on board...
	It's not going to be searching around.
	It finds its access point.
	Once you put a microcell on board, it also won't be searching around.
	It's going to find it.
	So that's the only reason why it's not allowed is because of the actual interference on the flight crew's headset.
	Well, I like that explanation.
	How come that was never brought for?
	Well, because the news media is too busy with great reporting on other things.
	Well, there is great stuff out there.
	That's for sure.
	Anyway, you can take that.
	That's a little tip from No Agenda.
	All right, that's all I got.
	That's all you got?
	They're going to eliminate the whole thing.
	I think you're probably right, Wi-Fi on board, because they wanted to get the $10 off you.
	It's not.
	I think it's, maybe it is $10.
	It's $10 on most of these flights.
	Yeah.
	In a long flight, I can do it.
	I'd do it from coast to coast, and I had a bunch of stuff to finish because I didn't get stuff done.
	I'd pay the $10.
	Yeah, they don't really let you do anything.
	From Seattle to Oakland, it's $10.
	Oh, yeah.
	There's no streaming.
	I've tried to use it for show prep, but you can.
	You can't really watch a YouTube video.
	Yeah, it's good for email, and that's about it.
	Yeah, that is really about it.
	Or for downloading songs like...
	There you go.
	Alright everybody, we have once again deconstructed the bullcrap for you.
	Hopefully you feel better knowing that...
	Well, knowing that you're being bullcrapped.
	Yeah, that's the idea.
	The idea is for you to feel better knowing that they're just bullcrapping you.
	Yeah, that's the only thing we accomplish.
	Yeah.
	Some people don't enjoy it.
	They don't enjoy knowing this knowledge, and they'd rather be...
	In the dark.
	In the dark.
	In the dark and dumb.
	Yeah.
	Anyway, I think we should come up with a No Agenda listener ribbon.
	You wear it with your police uniform.
	Yeah, exactly.
	It'll look great, I guarantee.
	It'll be better looking than those other chevrons.
	Let's see.
	I think there is a No Agenda Producer update coming up on the stream today, so make sure you catch that right here, noagendastream.com.
	And we will be back on Thursday, no doubt, with more information that you probably can't get anywhere else.
	Beware of the eugenicists.
	They're out there trying to kill you and your children.
	And here in Austin, Texas, wearing my slave bracelet in the morning, I'm Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley, where there's no slave bracelets, I'm John C. Dvorak.
	We'll talk to you again on Thursday right here on No Agenda.
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