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551: The Tolerance Podcast
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No agenda, no agenda, no agenda, no agenda,
no agenda, no agenda, Thank you.
Get it.
Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak.
It's Thursday, September 26, 2013.
Time for your Gitmo Nation media assassination episode 551.
This is no agenda.
Pitching a kale community in France.
From the Travis Heights hideout here in the capital of the Golden Star State, Austin Tejas.
In the morning, everybody.
I'm Adam Curry.
Northern Silicon Valley.
I'm John C. Dvorak.
In the morning.
Wow, that was so spectacularly wrong.
Everything messed up.
It did?
Yeah.
Yes, so the jingles were stuttering, and all of a sudden you were like 18 dB...
Eight dog biscuits?
Uh-oh.
Something's wrong.
Here we go.
See?
Okay, so whenever we plan to do something for whatever it is we plan, it always fails.
No, it doesn't.
It always works.
This was a total failure.
Every technical thing went wrong.
Everything failed.
It was bad.
Oh, well, anyway.
So we do have an operatic opening.
Yeah, we do.
That's exactly what we have.
So you know the story?
No, I don't know the story.
That's Sir Greg Birch's daughter.
Yeah.
Who apparently has been singing most of her life.
As an opera singer?
Yes.
And he only, like, found out about it, like, a few months ago.
Hey, who are you?
What did you do with my kid?
So, now he just, all he sees is dollar signs, uh...
And he's coming to us to kick that off, this collection of bucks?
Well, he sees the dollar signs going out because she's young.
She needs training.
Is she going to Juilliard?
Is that the next step?
Oh, that's probably one of the targets.
Wow.
Well, I like it a lot.
It's kind of cool.
And she did a whole bunch of other ones that we should pepper in from time to time.
Yeah, yeah.
They're pretty funny.
Well, she's got a sweet voice.
I think she probably could be trained into becoming a star.
We get free tickets.
Ah, yes.
Cops.
How do you get to Carnegie Hall?
Just know someone who's got a talented kid.
There you go.
That's the way to roll.
Oh, man.
How are you doing, John?
I'm doing fine.
Or is that a hello in the morning?
No, that's not a...
I'm just asking how you're doing.
I'm a little upset.
Okay.
I would have to say, kind of right off the bat.
Well, first of all, today is another Ozone Action Day here in Austin.
What?
Yes, it's an Ozone Action Day.
What does that even mean?
You can't use hairspray?
The Texas Commission on Environmental Quality.
You should know this as an air quality inspector.
I'm surprised you do not know what an ozone action day is.
It's bullcrap, I can tell you that much.
The TCEQ, that's the Texas Commission on Environmental Quality, has issued an ozone action day for the Austin area for Wednesday, September 25th, and Thursday, September 26th, 2013.
Atmospheric conditions are expected to be favorable for producing high levels of ozone air pollution in the Austin area.
And you can help prevent ozone pollution on Ozone Action Day by sharing a ride, walking or riding a bicycle, taking your lunch to work, avoiding drive-thru lanes, conserving energy, and keeping your vehicle properly tuned.
What is the...
Taking a lunch to work has to do with anything.
So you don't go out and, you know, when you order a lunch, then, you know, you're contributing to trucks driving and, you know, killing people.
You're a bad human resource.
Huh.
So that was kind of like a bummer because, you know, I can't, you know, I have to carpool to work today.
But the worst thing is Monday, and no one alerted me to this.
I only got emails after the fact.
I'm flabbergasted that I was not invited.
The White House had their bi-visibility day on Monday the 23rd.
And they had a closed-door roundtable, which is just beautiful irony for a bisexual.
So they were all closeted.
Was it a closed closet door?
Huh.
All right, sorry, bye.
I don't know what was going on.
Just all of a sudden I'm talking to the mic and then I don't hear anything anymore.
Are you sure you have a loose connection?
I could be, but I don't know.
I'm wiggling the wires here.
Slap it!
No, I'm not going to slap it.
It's a brand new mic.
I want to mention to everybody, do not blow into a microphone.
Yeah, that is one of the worst things when people do that.
When they want to test a mic.
Yes, you'll ruin the diaphragm.
Yeah, and it always shows you...
You're falling apart.
No, I can hear that.
Thank you.
Thank you for mentioning.
I'm just saying.
Hey, John, why don't you give me a little QST report there, buddy?
Hey, seven dog biscuits over ten.
I don't know.
What's a QST report?
Well, I'm going to read while Adam's fooling around with his microphone.
The report on kale.
So there's this woman in France who apparently thinks she can change French culture and get them to eat kale.
Now, I don't know about you.
Maybe it is related to the power to plug something.
You going to tell this kale story?
Go!
I'm just going to say, I don't know about you, have you ever had kale, you know, because our stealthy guy sends kale stuff.
Let me tell you something.
We got the healthysurprise.com box of kale stuff.
When was this?
No, no, this is what we received.
No, no, no, I still get my...
I don't get them anymore.
I haven't gotten one for months.
Well, maybe it's because you're, like, complaining about the contents.
And maybe not.
Uh-oh, something was very wrong here.
It's funny to listen to.
Well, while you're just futzing around your mic, let me continue.
Kale is terrible.
It is one of the most horrible tasting vegetables.
I don't even know why they bother selling it.
It's not worth cooking.
They sell it at the green grocers.
It's impossible to make taste good.
And all the people out there that, you know, the vegans and the veggies and all the rest of them, for some reason they've been sold a bill of goods to eat kale.
One, two.
I don't know.
And so they pretend to like it.
I have to say that we have had kale salad here in the house recently.
And then you're cut out for good.
Or you want to start over?
No, I don't want to start over.
I've unpaused, so we're back.
Oh, okay.
So you fixed your microphone.
No, I haven't, but we'll see how long it lasts.
You sound fine.
Yeah, no, it's not that I don't sound fine.
It's just all of a sudden it'll cut out for no reason.
Huh.
Well, I'll just put up with it.
But I guess you can't.
So I've got, I found, I'm cleaning up the office.
Yes.
I found the Oyster Bar menu from Grand Central Station from 2002.
And did it have kale on it?
Nope.
There's no kale on here.
Okay.
All right.
So what's the point of your menu?
I was just killing time here waiting for your microphone to fail again.
Okay.
No, don't worry.
Okay.
So let's start the show off with something besides you cussing at me on the Emmys.
Okay, can I just say, no one heard me cussing at you on the show.
That was not in the recording.
Okay, I'm just saying.
But when I'm doing technical stuff, and I'll just leave it at this, when I'm doing technical stuff, it does not help for you to be playing the harmonica.
And it's not even the harmonica, it's play a song.
Okay, okay.
Like you swallowed it and you're wheezing.
I am wheezing.
That wasn't the harmonica.
Alright, let's get going here.
Emmys.
Alright, Emmys.
Does this mean there's a clip I need to get?
I got a bunch of Emmys clips.
Hold on a second.
Did you watch the Emmys?
Yes, of course I watched the Emmys.
But that doesn't mean...
You don't think it's something we should talk about?
It's a worldwide audience of almost a trillion people.
In fact, they even stopped that lie.
They're now down to 30 million.
Because I heard Neil Patrick Harris say it.
He's like, we're being watched around the globe by 30 million people.
I'm like, wow, that's a step down from the billion it used to be.
That's probably what it is.
I got a clip.
I got one clip.
The only clip that matters.
Okay.
Play your clip and I'll play the clip of the day.
Okay.
The bullcrap PR clip.
Of course, we teased it on Sunday's show.
Talking about how some veteran actors only received a mention in the Weird Dead segment, whereas Cory Monteith of Glee fame got a whole special montage that ended with, by the way, done by his castmate, what's her name?
Yeah, the woman.
Yeah, the big blonde lesbian.
What's her name?
I forgot her name.
She's very funny, though.
She's great.
But, you know, that's kind of how you have to characterize her if you don't know her name.
The big blonde lesbian.
Yeah, big blonde lesbian.
And here is how the segment ended and went into commercials.
Thank you.
Thank God for you.
The women must be.
The two-part season premiere begins Thursday, September 26th on Fox.
So they blatantly used the dead kid to promote the season premiere of Glee.
That was my favorite.
That was on the internet.
I don't think that was on the show.
I don't, not so sure.
I think it was on local Fox.
You got it from the internet, didn't you?
It was sent to me by someone who says he recorded it himself.
Yeah, well, that wasn't on the show.
It was on the internet.
But isn't it true if it's on the internet?
It is absolutely true.
They did a lot of promotion on the network, but that thing was...
They did a lot of promotion, but most of it was for the network.
I think it was ABC or CBS that they were on.
I don't know.
So here's what I thought.
They had all these, oh, the best moment with a girl coming out and saying, thank you for the award, bye, I gotta go.
And, you know, a couple of these other ones.
But I think the Matt Damon, it was an insult that nobody, I don't know how many people picked up on it, but I thought it was like a huge insult.
And I'm telling you, now is not the time to be discouraged.
Now is the time to lead.
And the Emmy goes to...
Laura Linney, the big C hereafter.
Laura couldn't be here tonight.
She's such a great actress that she didn't even need to show up.
No, she's working, so we accept this on her behalf.
I thought that was one of the better ones, actually.
I like that a lot.
You didn't think it was an insult?
No, not at all.
She's such a great actress, she didn't need to show up?
Yeah.
I don't know.
No, it's just...
It's Hollywood.
Wow, I can't even believe you're bringing this to the table.
Awkward gimmick on Emmys is another one.
Where's your clip of the week?
That was it.
You didn't like it.
No, I did not.
Please welcome the Emmy winner, Melissa Leo!
Okay, wait, wait, stop.
I have to set this up.
So they had this...
You saw this.
Did you watch this at all?
Apparently you didn't.
Oh, there goes your mic.
Yeah, I watch...
Turn it on and off.
Okay, backup systems initiated.
Sorry about the rough open there, but hey, this is what happens when you're doing a live show.
So talking about doing a live show and the humor involved...
Wait!
There's more Emmys to talk about!
Well, I mean, I thought we were going to watch these Emmys.
You didn't watch them.
I watched the Emmys.
I just didn't think it was all that interesting.
I didn't think the Matt Damon slam was a Matt Damon slam.
I saw very little, you know, political things of any importance.
Oh, yeah, this really is annoying.
How come somebody didn't come out and say, stop the wars, stop the spying?
No, we're not going to do that.
It was, you know, this is about, you know, Hollywood.
We've all got to be happy and bouncy and jolly and all believe in smoking our own dope.
Well, it was annoying.
Okay, so the last, okay, I have one crummy more clip.
All right.
So this was, so the guy wins the award for writing of one of the shows, Homeland.
And all these people are kind of happy, and they're looking, and a bunch of them, they show the audience, and they're all turning around, looking over for Henry to come up to get the award.
They're looking, they're clapping, and the award goes like this.
Please welcome the Emmy winner, Melissa Leo!
What?
This is Henry Gets Emmy.
Oh, I'm sorry.
You were setting up a previous clip.
I'm so sorry.
It's the same clip?
And the Emmy goes to Henry Brommel, Homeland.
Henry, come on up.
Henry tragically died earlier this year.
His award is being accepted by his wife, Sarah Bromel.
Apparently nobody, all his buddies, all the friends you have in Hollywood.
Yeah, no one showed up.
No one knew he died.
That's even worse.
Anyway.
Okay, well you...
You didn't think any of that was good?
No.
Look, I thought it was a very interesting show.
I liked watching it.
You know, Miss Mickey and I drank two Manhattans, got completely hammered watching the show.
And that was about all.
It's a two-Manhattan show.
That's really all that it is.
Well, it wasn't very good.
The opening segment, you probably didn't see that.
John, I saw the whole thing.
I just didn't get off on it like you did.
The opening segment was terrible.
Yeah, none of it was good.
The only thing that was good is when Kevin Spacey turned around and did his little chat.
And that wasn't good?
What he did was good.
Yeah, but then it didn't have any callbacks to it.
What was not good about him is his lips were dirty.
He had all kinds of red wine smudge on his lips, and it was really close up, and it was really not a good look.
This was not...
Someone needs to work on that.
But okay, enough about that.
He needed a handler.
He was there with a man instead of his mom.
Wow.
You watched the red carpet as well, apparently?
What is wrong?
No, I did not see the red carpet.
Where's the real John C. Dvorak?
Bring him back!
Now, this does play into a clip that you played on Sunday's show about the new way the Chinese are going to be working with us.
If you could paraphrase, remember that clip we were talking about?
It was some politician?
No.
Yeah, you do.
It was your clip.
It was some politician, some Chinese politician, and it was about the new way of working between China and the United States.
You don't remember this?
No.
Wow, okay, hold on.
Let me get the clip then.
Wow.
You don't even remember your own clip?
I remember the clip.
Okay.
Okay.
It's about we're going to be working with the Chinese.
Here it is.
There's a new model.
Here it is.
Today you can rest assured that I will not say sorry again, no matter what foreign policy questions you raise.
This is a year of great significance in China-U.S. relations.
Last June, the two presidents held a successful and historic meeting in Annenberg Estate, California.
The most important outcome It's that China and the United States agreed to build a new model of major country relations.
Now, there you go.
So the new model, and we were trying to figure out what it was.
And what did I say?
I'm sure you don't remember that either.
Yeah, you said that this was a crappy clip, and you had better ones.
No!
No!
I said it was a great clip.
Wow, I'm calling back to your clip, man.
Come on, give me a little break.
Okay, okay.
Well, just tell me what you said.
Just summarize, instead of grilling me.
Well, I said this probably had something to do with Hollywood or how the message about China was going to be communicated.
Ah, right.
And lo and behold, the next day, news breaks of this Chinese group called the Wanda Group.
I'll read it from the article.
Who unwrapped an $8.2 billion investment fund for movies.
They're building this huge lot in Qingdao.
That's in northeastern China.
And they had this huge ceremony with...
And everyone was there.
Leonardo DiCaprio, Nicole Kidman, Harvey Weinstein.
They got a 10,000 square meter film studio.
19 post-production, pre-production facilities.
Travolta was there, Ewan McGregor, Kate Beckinsale.
Usual suspects.
Oh yeah, they were all there.
But having Harvey there, that's when you really gotta know that this is happening.
An $8 billion fund.
They basically just bought Hollywood.
At least for the next couple of years.
And if you think Hollywood isn't prone to dancing to the pipes...
Oh, no.
They sell out at the drop of a hat.
They sold out to the Nazis.
I was going to say, if you Google around, you can see that Hollywood did a lot of scrubbing of historical and current events to appease the Nazis who were helping to pay for a lot of Hollywood's early work.
Yeah, no, they have no, there's nothing to stop.
No shame, no shame.
No shame, that's the word.
So this guy, this Wanda outfit, he already owns something.
They already own, what do they own?
They own, I think they own some, oh, here they are.
One billion dollar investment, five star hotel in New York.
I think they bought some theater chain, didn't they?
That's really what you want.
You want the movie theaters and you want the production.
Kind of what Sony tried to do.
Yeah, well that's an old model that was busted years ago and then they were trying to sneak it back into play, which was the vertical integration where you had Fox movies, Fox theater, everything up and down.
That's about time the Chinese make the mistake.
Always the problem with this sort of thing is that what comes out is junk.
Yeah, well let's see.
They've already produced some movies.
Keanu Reeves' directorial debut, Man of Tai Chi.
Police Story 2013 with Jackie Chan.
I guess that's the same movie.
I guess that's Man of Tai Chi Police Story 2013 with Jackie Chan.
That's Keanu Reeves' directorial debut.
That should be worth watching.
And The Monkey King, Uproar in Heaven 3D. This guy's getting soaked.
Yeah, well, Hollywood's good at that, we have to admit.
Hey, man, I can get you a date with fill-in-the-blank hot actress if you fund my movie.
So anyway, so the Emmys were a bust.
Yeah, well no, I thought they were very entertaining to watch, but I didn't really think there was anything that came back that was like, wow, this is no good.
I'm in agreement with you on the basis of the failure for the Hollywood community to speak out against their leader, their ruler, you know, Herr Obama, and say something about the spying, because everybody else is bitching about it.
I have to say, even though it's kind of Weird to watch the Obama bots on Democracy Now!
have to deal with the realities of the situation.
They had Jeremy Scahill, who to me is just hilarious to watch on the show, because he just blasts Obama.
There's a good clip that I saw.
This was on yesterday's show.
Scahill came out to discuss Obama's speech before the UN, and it was funny.
This clip is Blast Obama's speech.
In a speech, Obama told the world the US is prepared to use its military to defend what he called, quote, our core interests in the Middle East, that is, US access to oil.
The United States of America is prepared to use all elements of our power, including military force, to secure our core interests in the region.
We will confront external aggression against our allies and partners, as we did in the Gulf War.
We will ensure the free flow of energy from the region to the world.
I have that whole clip, by the way, of everything you said.
It was great.
That was President Obama speaking yesterday at the UN General Assembly.
Jeremy, your response to what Obama said in his speech?
During this section of the speech, my jaw sort of hit the floor.
I mean, he basically came out and said, the United States is an imperialist nation, and we're going to do whatever we need to to conquer areas to take resources from people around the world.
I mean, it was a really naked sort of declaration of imperialism.
And I don't use that word lightly, but it really is.
I mean, he pushed back against the Russians when he came out and said, I believe America is an exceptional nation.
He then, you know, defended the Gulf War and basically said that the motivation behind it was about oil and said we're going to continue to take such actions in pursuit of securing natural resources for ourselves and our allies.
It's very interesting, and I'm glad this actually transitions very nicely, John, into the two clips I have from the President's United Nations speech.
And it's very typical of democracy now, I think, even in this context, to only play like a very, very short clip.
Because there was so much more egregious talk coming out of the man's pie hole.
It was stunning.
Did you see the whole thing?
It was horrible.
Oh my gosh.
I have two clips.
I just had to break it up into two pieces.
And by the way, Scahill does mention this.
I don't have it on this clip, but he does mention that just before Obama came out, it was the president of Brazil, the woman who just excoriated the U.S. for spying on her.
She canceled the meeting.
It wasn't just a meeting.
It was one of those massive state dinners where they put the big dinner where they put the tents out.
Oh, and where Stevie Wonder performs?
Well, that kind of thing.
Yes, exactly.
Big, giant gala, and she says no.
She bails from it.
They have to cancel it.
And this was also the first, I think, female visit of this stature, of this size, wasn't it?
Maybe.
I think so.
Although, Merkel must have been given this treatment already.
Well, Merkel's a different topic on today's program.
So anyway, by the way, this has always bothered me.
This background, this U.S. U.N. podium, the black granite tiles, it looks like a bathroom.
In a really dodgy, like, 80s hip-hop house.
It looks crappy, is what you're saying.
Yeah, I don't understand why they use that.
So here is the president...
I think they should paint a green screen behind him.
Yeah, that would make it a lot nicer.
Here's our president throwing out a middle finger, an F you to Russia.
Now, agreement on chemical weapons should energize a larger diplomatic effort to reach a political settlement within Syria.
I do not believe that military action, by those within Syria or by external powers, can achieve a lasting peace.
Nor do I believe that America or any nation should determine who will lead Syria.
That is for the Syrian people to decide.
Nevertheless, a leader who slaughtered his citizens and gassed children to death cannot regain the legitimacy to lead a badly fractured country.
I just got to stop here for one moment because this is not proven.
The UN report did not say that he gassed children in their sleep.
There's been no empirical evidence of slaughter.
I thought this was a little bit out there on the lying tip for our president to be saying this, but okay.
Well, you know, you should also mention there are some clips now showing how they launched these things, and it looks like the rebels, with some really crude systems, We're the ones behind this.
This is looking more and more like that.
We don't know.
We have no clue.
Well, what we do know is that the United Nations report, which we analyzed and marked up, and it's in the show notes, you can find it, search.nashownotes.com, that it did not put the blame on anyone.
And a couple of things it didn't do is it did no testing for sarin on victims, only on survivors.
Why is beyond me.
And they took very, very small samples, and they presume that the BM-14 missile was launched from a system that I guess the Assad regime has kept around for 45 years.
Because that's how old that system is.
Okay, regardless, let's just say he gassed children in their sleep.
The notion that Syria can somehow return to a pre-war status quo is a fantasy.
It's time for Russia and Iran to realize that insisting on Assad's rule will lead directly to the outcome that they fear.
I like that, though.
Let's put Russia in with Iran.
That's good.
That's rocking it.
An increasingly violent space for extremists to operate.
By the way, the word slaughter, John...
The definition is, I think the real definition is butchering for food, is it not?
I don't know that.
Yeah, let me see.
Well, the second definition is killing of great numbers of human beings.
Of course, define great.
But the first definition is specifically the butchering of livestock for market.
So, I don't think he was eating his people when he slaughtered them.
In turn, those of us who continue to support the moderate opposition...
Must persuade them that the Syrian people cannot afford a collapse of state institutions.
Okay, so of course then I went to look up all the news about the president and our support of the Syrian opposition.
We now have fact sheets delivered to us.
Yes?
Just to interrupt you for a second, the definition of slaughter, actually the number one definition is the killing of people, the brutal killing of a person, or large numbers.
Oh.
That is the number one?
It is in this dictionary.
Facts, facts, facts.
On the best podcast in the universe.
Here's the facts.
U.S. humanitarian assistance in response to the Syrian crisis.
The president just announced an additional $339 million in humanitarian aid to the rebels for the ongoing crisis in Syria, bringing our total to John.
Do you have any idea?
50.
50 what?
50.
50 dead.
No, how much money we've sent to sear it to the rebels.
How much money?
Oh, how much money?
Let me guess.
2.5 billion.
No, not quite that.
But 1.4 billion dollars.
Too much.
But I remember, like, less than half a year ago, it was like, I think, before Hillary resigned, oh, I regret the day.
Before Hillary resigned, it was like, you know, we're sending $35 million.
It's just a little bit we're sending over.
How did it get to that?
I know!
How did it get to $1.4 billion?
That's because we're sending them weapons.
Well, I'll tell you.
Well, not just that, but the relief doesn't...
This is a bonanza, by the way.
It doesn't just go to Syria.
No, no.
So, inside Syria, $161 million.
But then we've given $74 million to Lebanon, $48 million to Jordan, $24 million to Iraq, $25 million to Turkey, $6 million to Egypt.
Apparently, they're helping out.
It's for refugee assistance.
This is an incredible bonanza that all these NGOs, which I really am starting to loathe, anytime someone says they work for an NGO, I just want to walk away.
It's soaking up public resources for bullcrap.
And then here's the provision of defense articles and services to vetted members of the Syrian opposition for use in Syria to prevent the use or proliferation of chemical weapons and related materials.
This is from the Federal Register.
This is stuff you never see about on the news.
So I guess they have a vetting process.
And they go in, and this is the president by authority vested in me.
I determined that the transaction encompassing the provision of defense articles and defense services to vetted members of the Syrian opposition, organizations implementing U.S. Department of State or USAID programs inside or related to Syria.
Vetted.
Yeah, but...
Do they vet them like they vet the Navy Yard shooter?
Is that how they vet the Syrian opposition?
Yeah, are you schizophrenic?
Okay, good, you did the job.
Before we get off too far away from what you started this conversation about, which is the gassing, I think we should play this clip, because Obama went into it, blamed the Russians and all the rest of it, and made a scene.
I think we should at least get a little background for ourselves.
Play the interesting gassing Iranian story.
You're getting your PhD now here in New York at New York University, and you've been looking at chemical weapons.
Of course, a big issue is Iran's support of Syria.
In a recent headline, we reported that newly disclosed CIA files show the United States provided critical intelligence to help Iraq's Saddam Hussein launch chemical weapons, a chemical attack on Iran.
In the waning days of the Iran-Iraq war, the United States provided Saddam Hussein with satellite imagery Showing Iran was poised to exploit a hole in Iraq's military positioning.
The U.S. gave Iraq the location of Iranian troops despite knowing Saddam Hussein would use nerve gas.
The attacks killed anywhere from hundreds to thousands of Iranians.
You're doing a film on the effects of the chemical attacks on Iranians.
How much of that is understood?
For example, these released CIA... Who is she talking to?
Is she going to get the question in?
She likes to talk.
Wow!
Who's going to answer?
Tell me.
This woman is a filmmaker from Iran, and she actually, before this came up, I could have clipped a lot of her, she had an analysis of them trying to get closer to the U.S. and make friends, because she says that, and she believes there's some sincerity here that we have to take seriously, because it's getting to the point in Iran...
And she's from there.
She says that there's a chance of a riot, you know, or even an overthrow of the government.
Because people now, the prices for drugs in particular, of all things, pharmaceuticals, has just gone through the roof.
So just to get an aspirin, it costs you a fortune.
Oh, but I'm sure that's just being gouged.
You know, that's the humanitarian aid we're sending and someone inside Syria is jacking up the price, I'm sure.
This is in Iran.
Oh, Iran.
I'm sorry.
Iran.
Iran.
Yeah, she says it's completely out of control because apparently we've finally put an embargo thing together that works.
Yeah.
And it's causing problems, and so they want to bail out, and they want to, and then they talked about Rachmanijid, that other guy, Rachmanijid, the previous guy.
Ahmadinejid?
Ahmadinejid.
I never get that.
Documents of the U.S. role in this, and how do Iranians feel about this?
You know, it's very interesting because the first sort of known attack that's known in Iran where chemical weapons was used was 1981.
In 1984, Ayatollah Khomeini at the time and the Iranian leadership appealed to the United Nations and said that we need investigations to happen in Iran because we believe that there have been chemical weapons used here.
Three official investigations took place in the mid-1980s, and although there was significant evidence found and reported to the United Nations that chemical weapons had been used by the Iraqis in the war, all three investigations were ignored by the international body.
This is very well recorded in Iran, and then also post-2003, after the US invaded Iraq, Many more documents came to the surface at that time as well since Saddam Hussein had left power.
All right.
She goes on and she talks about the Kurds and everything.
So this is bullcrap.
We are like as much responsible for these sorts of things as anyone.
And meanwhile, we're talking a big game.
Oh, yeah.
Okay.
So let me go back to...
Hold on a second.
Go back to the speech.
Yeah, hold on a second.
I'm just trying to get my levels up here a little bit.
I don't know what's going on.
It's just a little on the fly.
I'm trying to get an engineer to do this for me while I'm on the show so I don't have to do all that.
So back to the United Nations speech.
Here's the piece that Jeremy Scahill was talking about that they just played a very, very short clip of.
And I actually, when I heard this, and Miss Mickey was in the kitchen, she's like, oh my god, what is he saying?
And that's when I had to introduce her into Team America, the movie, which she has not seen yet.
And I just played it, found a couple of YouTube clips.
I said, this is really what this is.
This is Team America.
And whenever someone says, we're not trying to be this, we don't want to be that, we're not doing that, you better well believe that's exactly what he is doing.
Let me take this opportunity to outline what has been U.S. policy towards the Middle East and North Africa.
Let's talk about the policy.
Everyone get their notebooks out.
And what will be my policy during the remainder of my presidents.
Okay.
The United States of America is prepared to use all elements of our power, including military force, to secure our core interests in the region.
What are the core interests?
We will confront external aggression against our allies and partners, as we did in the Gulf War.
We will ensure the free flow of energy from the region to the world.
This, by the way, I think is beautiful, because he kind of dropped that whole free flow of energy thing.
And now it's back, and he actually expands on it.
Yeah, yeah, he finds these all useful.
America's steadily reducing our own dependence on imported oil.
The world still depends on the region's energy supply.
Oh, okay.
Severe disruption could destabilize the entire global economy.
Oh, okay.
Well, that makes sense.
Hello, Team America.
We can't have the entire global economy disrupted because of some crazy guy who's gassing children in their sleep, now can we?
We will dismantle terrorist networks that threaten our people.
Wherever possible, we will build the capacity of our partners, respect the sovereignty of nations, and work to address the root causes of terror.
But when it's necessary to defend the United States against terrorist attacks...
We will come in and kick your sorry ass.
We will take direct action.
That's what I said.
And finally, we will not tolerate the development or use of weapons of mass destruction.
Which, as we know, is defined as pretty much a pressure cooker.
Just as we consider the use of chemical weapons in Syria to be a threat to our own national security, we reject the development of nuclear weapons that could trigger a nuclear arms race in the region and undermine the global nonproliferation regime.
So this is the piece that really is just kind of saying right there, we are the police.
You need to shut up and do as we say.
You cannot defend yourself.
You cannot have any type of...
I mean, there's no...
Yeah, there is a global kind of proliferation treaty, but nothing that says that we're supposed to be stopping that or am I nuts?
Did I miss some kind of agreement somewhere, John?
Yeah, you're nuts.
They agreed on this numerous times.
The world gave us control of everything.
And what document is that?
Can I find this?
I think that's the Behind Closed Doors document.
The one they had at the Bi-Visualization Day.
Okay, good.
Got it.
This is New World Order at work here is what this is.
And by the way...
George H.W. Bush started this whole time.
Yes.
And by the way, the pauses our president takes in these speeches...
It's one beat too long.
No, I cut him out.
Oh no, I didn't cut him out.
I do.
I cut him out because I play these things and I go, oh my god, this is horrible.
The guy pauses.
It sounds like you've gone off the air.
It's dead air.
But it's important for the context that we...
20 more seconds.
I don't think the pauses work.
I don't think they do him any good.
It's as though he's just a slow talker.
No, it doesn't do him any good, but I like playing him in full context so you can hear that it's not working.
It's not working.
Now, to say that these are America's core interests is not to say that they are our only interests.
Okay.
What else is there?
We deeply believe it is in our interests to see a Middle East and North Africa that is peaceful and prosperous.
Rubble.
We continue to promote democracy and human rights and open markets because we believe these practices achieve peace and prosperity.
There you go.
I thought it was a very aggressive stance.
I did not appreciate the president speaking that way, that we are going to basically just be the boss and mess you up, and we're the foundations of terrorism.
That was like, hello, be on notice.
We are here, we've got the biggest army in the world, and we are out for blood.
You know what's annoying?
I'm What?
It's probably more annoying to me than it is to you.
When I was a kid in school, the Russians were going to bomb us any minute, and you had to go under your desk and do all these things.
It's very similar to what's going on today.
Duck and cover.
Duck and cover.
The same thing.
You scare the public.
It was almost drummed into us that the reason we had to be so aggressive, especially with the Russians, is because if those guys actually got hold of power, they would become big, world-class bullies.
And then when you listen to the Russians talk, they said the same thing about us.
They said, oh, the only reason we're here is because the Americans will be these horrible bullies because they can't control themselves because they never used to be in military until World War II, really that militaristic, and then they got full of themselves, which we did.
And the Russians are right.
I mean, there's no evidence.
The Russians always said, no, we aren't going to do that.
There's no evidence.
We don't know.
They probably would be the same a-holes that we've become.
I mean, it seems.
But you don't know.
But we know now, for a fact, that we've become this world-class, we're just a bunch of big bullies.
And that's why I think bullies, by the way, is on the agenda for things to, like...
Completely, you know, bitch and moan about because it's a fractal of our giant persona.
Well, since you bring that up, and before we go into thanking anybody, there's two documents that I have in our bullying folder under clips and stuff in the show notes, 551.nashownotes.com.
Two things.
One, and by the way, when I was marking these, so I was marking up a whole bunch of PDFs like the day before yesterday, and I'm sitting in my office, I'm like, I got legal documents from the EU, and this is a bullying, harassment, or intimidation reporting form from Rockville, Maryland County Public Schools.
And I'm like, you know, if anyone ever finds this and they see all this...
I'm like the Unabomber, man.
I'm like a Ted Kaczynski disciple.
You know, sticking notes and, you know, marking this stuff up so people can get it from our show notes and read it.
You know, I gotta watch it.
He was such a quiet man.
He really kept to himself in the neighborhood.
Alright, this is a form you can fill out, or you as a parent can fill out, if your kid has been bullied.
And I just wanted to read some of this.
One of our...
Parenting producer sent this to us.
Just so you know exactly what it is and what is being discussed here.
Directions for this form.
It's a form.
It's a two-page form that you can fill out with the person reporting the incident, the names of alleged offenders and witnesses.
Bullying, harassment, or intimidation are serious and will not be tolerated.
This is a form to report alleged bullying, harassment, or intimidation that occurred on school property at a school-sponsored activity or event off school property on a school bus or on the way to and or from school in the current school year.
If you are a student victim, the parent guardian of a student victim, close relative, school staff member, you can report this anonymously, of course.
Although they ask you to put your name in.
Bullying, harassment, or intimidation means intentional conduct.
This is important so we understand what it is.
Including verbal, physical, or written conduct, or an intentional electronic communication that creates a hostile educational environment by substantially interfering with the student's educational benefits, opportunities, or performance, or with the student's physical or psychological well-being, and is...
motivated by an actual or perceived personal characteristic, including race, national origin, marital sex, sexual orientation, gender identity, religion, ancestry, physical attributes, socioeconomic status, familial status, or physical or mental ability or disability, or...
Threatening or serious intimidation.
When you read this list, socioeconomic status.
Essentially, Eddie Murphy should be arrested post his gig.
He's not dead.
No, I was going to say posthumously, but who knows?
The funniest bit from Eddie Murphy's stand-up, Raw, I think it was, It's when the kids are teasing, like, you know, I've got an ice cream, you don't have an ice cream because you are under welfare.
Come on, man, that's funny!
No, no, but now you can't make any jokes about anything.
I wonder how funny that is.
Oh, come on, it's a great bit.
You've seen the bit, haven't you?
No.
Alright, so, um, then you have to describe the, there's multiple choice.
Place an X next to the statement that best describes what happened.
Choose all that apply.
So this is where they really break it down.
Teasing, name-calling, making critical remarks, or...
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
Yeah, thank you.
What?
That's bullying.
Teasing, name-calling, making critical remarks.
How about demeaning and making...
Making critical remarks?
Wow.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Well, I find that haircut of yours to be deplorable.
I'm going to report you for bullying.
Then we have demeaning and making the victim of jokes.
So now you can be...
It used to be you were the brunt of the joke.
Now you're the victim of the joke.
Because the joke is a killer.
Victim of jokes.
Or, John, bullying.
Here's another checkbox.
Excluding or rejecting the student.
So now you can't reject...
Yeah.
They wouldn't let me play ball.
This is horrible.
Yes.
This is going on right now.
We have this in the show notes?
Yes.
Yes, marked up with my Ted Kaczynski disciple arrows.
Spreading harmful rumors or gossip.
Gossip?
I don't know how harmful rumors or gossip.
When is it harmful?
Well, if you...
I don't know.
I could see it.
Oh, please.
Yeah, I mean, in some situation.
All right.
And then making rude and or threatening gestures so I can't throw anyone the finger anymore?
No.
You're a bully.
Cyberbullying, okay.
Cyberbullying is such bull.
Yeah, it is bullying.
And then anything related to the student's perceived sexual orientations.
Hey, you fag!
You can't say that.
It would be bullying.
So, you know, it's fine if we all want our kids to grow up like this, but as we will discuss later in the show, this is well underway, actually, as part of Common Core.
And I want to leave that until a little bit later, because there's quite a lot to discuss.
Did you do anything on that?
Did you look at that email?
I'm sorry, I couldn't hear you.
Okay, good.
What ties into this, though, is new legislation that came in from the United States of Europe.
And this is mind-boggling.
This is the European Framework National Statute for the Promotion of Tolerance.
This document is submitted with a view to being enacted by the legislatures of European states.
So this is the way the European Union works.
You get a whole bunch of consultants, and they all get together, and then they write some law, and then you have the commission who can introduce a law, and then the law can be passed on a European level, but the whole thing is it has to be enacted by the states, and they typically do.
So this document is, if you are living in Euroland, you should be frightened by this document.
And they start off with a number of assumptions, as do all good European Union documents.
Whereas, respect for human dignity is based on recognition of human diversity and the inherent right of every person to be different.
Do you already feel where this is going, John?
Well, one way it's going, I'm going to tell you, which I don't think you've contemplated, is the kind of lawsuits that keep cropping up in California where somebody is, like, for example, is looking for a job as a frontman cashier or a maitre d' and their face is covered with tattoos and piercings.
Right.
And they sue because they didn't get the job because of their looks.
Right.
And this, fantastic, it kind of plays into this.
Because this is where we are headed.
And I think the EU is...
By the way, this also harkens back to the guy, the dipshit guy who sued Hooters.
Yeah.
Because they wouldn't hire him.
Well, not only that...
As a big-titted waitress.
Yeah, but the waitresses no longer have big boobs because the whole concept was ruined because of the same things.
There was a flat-chested woman who wanted to work at Hooters and she sued.
And now go into a Hooters.
What do you see?
Man!
I've not been in a while, honestly.
You can't do themes anymore.
Theme restaurants are out.
Alright, be it therefore enacted as follows.
We have a couple of definitions.
First, a group.
Because this is what it's all about.
You cannot be disparaging groups.
A group is, of course, a number of people joined by racial, cultural, or cultural roots, ethnic origin, descent, religious affiliation, linguistic links, gender identity, so I could be a group, I could call myself bi-curious, sexual orientation, or any other characteristics of a similar nature.
So right there, you could have a group of tattooed face people, And they could be a group.
And you cannot group libel these people.
Group libel means this is law that's going to be enacted by all these European countries.
Defamatory comments made in public and aimed against a group as defined in paragraph A, that is the group we just talked about, so tattoo face guys, or members thereof, with a view to slandering the group, or holding it to ridicule or subjecting it to false charges.
Explanatory notes.
This is good news for Fox.
Why?
Because the Democrats are always slandering Fox and Rush Limbaugh, and they're part of a group.
Interestingly, this is not the examples they give here.
Well, it's an example.
The definition covers blood libels and anti-Semitic slurs, as well as allegations, i.e.
illegal would be gypsies or thieves.
Or, Muslims are terrorists!
This will now be illegal to say in Europe, in public.
So it's illegal in Europe?
It will be.
When this is enacted.
It will be, okay.
And I have some of the penal stuff as well.
What are you going to do about it?
I'll tell you in a moment.
I'll tell you in a moment for sure.
It must be understood that the group libel may appear to be aimed at members of the group in a different time or place.
So even if you go back in time and say something about disparaging about this group that happened 100 years ago, it can still be seen as group libel which will be outlawed.
Oh, that means that the Armenians can no longer bitch and moan about the Turks.
Again, again.
Can't say anything bad about Pol Pot.
Funny.
That gets, what's his name off the hook?
It's funny.
Again, not an example used here.
But I will get to some good examples.
Tolerance.
This is what this is all about.
This is the tolerance legislation.
Hold on a second.
Hold on a second.
What about the Nazis?
Well, we're going to get to that in a moment.
Tolerance.
This is about tolerance, John.
We have to understand, learn, and we have to express tolerance.
Tolerance means respect for and acceptance of the expression, preservation, and development of the distinct identity of a group as defined in paragraph A. This definition is without prejudice the principle of coexistence of diverse groups within a single society.
Um, explanatory note, coexistence of diverse groups within a single society requires, inter alia, across the board, some knowledge of local language as a means of communication with authorities and social environment.
This is not to be overlooked.
So if you want to be seen as a group, you do have to integrate somewhat and at least be able to speak the local language or have some knowledge of local language.
Otherwise, then all bets are off.
The purpose of the statute is to promote tolerance within society without weakening the common bonds tying together a single society.
We want to foster tolerance between different societies, eliminate hate crimes, condemn all manifestations of intolerance based on bias, bigotry and prejudice which is pretty much a removal of freedom of speech.
It doesn't say that.
I'm paraphrasing.
No, it totally is.
And to take concrete action to combat intolerance, in particular with a view to eliminating racism, color bias, ethnic discrimination, religious intolerance, totalitarian ideologies, xenophobia, anti-Semitism, anti-feminism, and homophobia.
Explanatory notes.
Ethnic discrimination is understood to cover anti-Roma activities.
Anti-Semitism is listed as a separate subset since it crosses the lines of various subsets.
It is certainly not confined to religious intolerance, as in conversion did not save Jews from extermination under the Nazis.
You know where this is leading to.
I'm just going to skip ahead here.
You will no longer be allowed to deny the Holocaust in public.
It says it here, literally.
Okay.
There's a small problem with that.
You start with that, and then what is it next?
You can't deny climate change?
Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
That would be in there.
But since we're dealing mostly with people and personalities, it sounds to me as though you can't criticize anything at all.
Well, even better than that, a national...
Can you criticize a play that stinks?
It's a group of people.
No, it's actors.
No, you cannot.
They're in a cast.
They're all part of a subset, which would be defined in this law.
So if the play that you paid money to see stinks, you can't say it stinks?
The way I read it, the way I understand it, it's against the law to do that.
I think you can absolutely...
Define it that way.
There's a couple more explanatory notes in here, and actually there's, interestingly enough, for some reason they list the human rights as determined by the European Union again in this document, and I'm always wary of that, because it can also be seen as, you know, later on it's like, well, in this document we redefined the human rights in Europe.
And so here it does say you have freedom of expression, freedom of religion and belief, freedom of association with other members of the group with a view to promoting its special culture, which is interesting.
So you can associate with other members of a group as long as it's to promote your special culture, way of life, religion or language, not if you like doing anything else.
Freedom of movement, right to privacy, and then interestingly new, I think, right to housing, right to work, and right to medical care and social insurance.
These are all human rights now in the EU. It's nice to see them defined this way.
Good news for the squatters.
Yes.
It must be understood that you do have the right to demonstrate.
However, this need not be tolerated when these demonstrations are likely to degenerate into riots or infringe on the rights of others.
And I don't know what likely means other than...
It means every one of them is likely.
Thank you, John.
Another example is that given the need to fight crime, persons may not be allowed to cover their faces in public.
I love that one.
Oh, that's a gem.
That's a little, little, little, little gemmy there.
They kind of just slipped that one in.
Who's going to police all this?
It will be the National Tolerance Monitoring Commission.
An independent body composed of eminent persons.
You know, just getting on this EU gravy train and all these various commissions and sub-commissions.
It's beautiful.
It's beautiful.
What we should do is we should pack up, move to Brussels, and live in luxury for the rest of our lives.
Consulting.
Just consulting.
I bet you the restaurants in...
I haven't been to Brussels for a number of years, but I'll bet you over time the restaurant scene in Brussels has gone through the roof.
Yes, of course.
It's fantastic.
I'm sure there's wine and food and shady ladies.
Russian hookers galore.
Mickey used to live there.
And she can show us everything.
She knows the rope.
She speaks the language, I think.
Well, you speak some French.
Anyway, so this body will be composed of eminent persons.
What does eminent persons mean?
That would be us.
Seriously, what is eminent?
We're not eminent persons, I'm sure.
What is eminent?
Well-known, famous.
Celebrities.
You're eminent.
You're tops in your field.
Celebrities.
He's top, but he has to be tops in your field.
Celebrities.
I love it.
Okay.
Vested with the authority to promote tolerance, the commission will be empowered to issue general guidelines, specific recommendations, express views, disseminate guidelines, foster international cooperation.
Okay, then we go to, and I'm almost done, penal sanctions.
The following acts will be regarded as criminal offenses, punishable as aggravated crimes.
So now it will be a crime.
Here they are.
Hate crimes, as defined in Section 1 we discussed.
Incitement to violence against a group, as defined in Section 1.
If I can just say, hey, you know, we should cream those actors.
That could be incitement to violence.
Group libel.
Overt approval of a totalitarian ideology.
Well, that would be basically saying, go Obama.
Go EU! And here it is.
Public approval or denial of the Holocaust.
That is in the list of top six.
Public approval or denial of any other act of genocide, the existence of which has been determined by an international criminal court or tribunal.
So that's interesting.
Not that I want to go around saying the Holocaust didn't happen, but it will become against the law.
And that is where it gets a little tricky, I think.
And by the way, free legal aid will be offered to victims of crimes, irrespective of qualifications.
So if you feel that you have been hate, if someone has hate-speeched you, you can get free legal aid to go and sue that guy and get him thrown in jail.
This is beautiful!
Alright, so how are we going to...
That's coming here.
This whole thing is coming here.
Oh, yes.
The EU is just a testing ground.
It's beta.
It's the New World Order in beta.
Or as they would say there, beta.
Beta, yes.
Okay, we're going to...
The government shall ensure that schools, from primary levels upwards, will introduce courses encouraging students to accept diversity and promoting a climate of tolerance as regards the qualities and cultures of others.
Yeah, this has really worked out well, this multicultural thing.
We've seen it in Scandinavia.
I've witnessed it myself in the Netherlands.
And teaching materials for tolerance awareness courses.
This is where the money comes in, John.
Will be developed by departments of education to meet the needs.
Oh, man, we can make so much money with our tolerance podcast.
We need a tolerance podcast.
Instructors will be trained so we can train podcasters in a manner qualifying them to train others.
So you get trainers of trainers to train the ultimate people.
The old pyramid scheme.
We can have four levels, John.
Four levels of this shit.
Great.
The production of books, plays, newspaper reports, magazine articles, films, and television programs promoting a climate of tolerance will be encouraged and, where necessary, subsidized by the government.
Hello, Bonanza!
We need to go make movies and TV shows in Europe!
I'm liking this.
The government shall ensure that public broadcasting stations will devote a prescribed percentage of their program to promoting a climate of tolerance.
This is just great.
Now, the government shall encourage all mass media, public as well as private, to adopt an ethical code of conduct.
Which will prevent the spreading of intolerance and will be supervised by a mass media complaints commission.
Alright, I get to play it now.
By Ayn Rand.
This whole document is about 12 pages.
You can find it in your show notes at 551.nashownotes.com.
Happy to bring this to you as a part of our show notes.
The Mass Media Complaint Commission.
That's right.
This will be great.
And that includes the internet, by the way.
It will include the internet.
That is mass media.
The Mass Media Complaint Commission.
And this is how it's going to go.
This is your bullying.
This is your...
You're not allowed to say anything mean.
You cannot be a meanie.
Anymore.
Which pretty much puts you out of travel to the EU, John C. Dvorak.
You're just not allowed to go.
Hello, everyone!
Anyway, I'd like to give you a big...
In the morning, John C. Dvorak.
Yeah, well, that's depressing.
But I'll say in the morning to you, Adam Curry.
Also in the morning to all the ships and sea boots on the ground, feet in the air, subs in the water, and all the dames and knights out there.
Yes, and also in the morning to our producers who have been very, very patient with us today, going through some technical issues in the beginning, because if you're listening to the podcast, you only heard a little bit of it, and they stuck in there for half an hour.
They're at noagendastream.com, noagendachat.net.
Also, thank you to our artists.
I messed up, and I forgot to thank Rob Little, who did the artwork for us on episode 549er.
Thorin did 550, and we highly appreciate all the work that our artists do.
Rob was really crushed, even though he got the credits in the show notes.
He was crushed?
Yeah, he was like, finally, something got accepted, and I listened, and I didn't hear anyone thank me.
Well, this is big.
Well, that's what happens when you start thanking people.
Yeah, that's true.
You set a bad precedent.
It's very bad.
But we do appreciate it.
Knowartgenerator.com is where you can find all of our submissions.
Please go over there and send something in for the show.
It's a fun kind of competition, and it can bring you...
Well, we do have a few executive producers to thank for show 551, including, it got left off.
I looked back at the email I sent Eric, and it came in with the checks, but the Duke of Mystery, Sir Dwayne Melanson, from Tigard, Oregon, It came in with $399.96.
Oh, nice.
Which is 66.66 times six.
Sack of sixes times the sack.
Six, six, sack sixes.
So you got a bunch of sixes in there.
The thing was, and he does have a note here I'll read.
I just wanted to drop you a note to say maybe a couple of interesting things here.
First of all, Adam may be an Ambien porn producer.
Yeah.
I read that.
He may be producing porn without knowing it, which I believe may be happening too.
Someone's getting cornholed today.
Sounds like a recipe for success to me.
Yes.
You sound kind of asleep.
I think the guy sounds like O'Biden, he says.
Which I don't see.
I don't get that.
I don't get it at all.
Anyway, so he sent a package with $399 bills.
Uh-oh.
Okay.
Strung together, which I now have to take to the bank and send it through the counting machine.
And then 96 cents taped to a piece of cardboard.
Ah, I love the creativeness.
Very nice.
I now look like a drug dealer with these wads of ones.
Well, then you'd be a sorry crack dealer.
I was thinking, no, I'm not.
It looks more like a guy ready to really hit it big at the strip club.
I can make it rain there by throwing one of these things up in the air.
Anyway.
But I will put it in the bank instead.
Interesting you know the make it rain vernacular of the strip club.
Don't you know that?
No.
I've not heard this.
I'll tell you the truth.
Here's a little anecdote.
This is from the Mevio days.
So I didn't know what Make It Rain meant.
Okay.
Because Jim Rome would always talk about it on his sports show, about how these athletes would always go to these strip clubs and make it rain.
Make it rain, yeah.
I never knew what that quite meant.
So one day, the group in production decided to go to the Gold Club or whatever it's called in San Francisco, which has a cheap lunch.
Uh, actually a fairly good lunch for like five bucks and you can sit there and watch strippers.
And, uh, and there was this guy who, uh, around the strippers that was throwing all this money in the air and it would come dribbling down and then, and somebody said, God, make it rain, make it rain.
And I said, Oh, that's what that means.
You can thank Michael Butler, uh, From my finding out the meaning of the story, because I actually got to witness it.
For your introduction to the Make It Rain Club.
We should have a donation level that's Make It Rain.
Make It Rain.
Which is essentially, it's like, you know, I don't know, it's like...
50 bucks.
50 bucks.
Yeah, it should be different.
But Make It Rain is this, it's a set amount they just throw into the air.
And it should be like, there should be like...
$60, but we lost seven of them because they got slipped underneath the chair.
So there's only like...
I think it's in...
I don't know.
All right.
We'll work on it.
I want to thank the Duke of Mystery for his humorous donation.
Indeed.
Brian Kissel in Albany, New York, $333.
Please send some karma for my new auto repair business in Albany.
I feel like a sub in hostile waters, an anarchist dealing with the state bureaucracy.
Schoolhouseauto.com.
Much love to you and yours.
Absolutely, man.
We'd love to have you.
Some karma coming at you.
You've got karma.
Nice.
And then an associate executive producer is Josh Hastings, 22222.
I was listening to a very talented high school class cover the song 46 and 2 by Tool.
I began to notice some deeper meaning to these lyrics.
I looked up in the Book of Knowledge and found some very interesting stuff about the human shadow and the 46 plus 2 theory.
This led me to Carl Jung, which in turn led me to his Red Book, How Very Clever of You, with this realization I had no other choice but to throw you a bag of deuces.
For all the douchebags out there, I'd like to call out one in particular, Tony Boom.
Douchebags!
He turned me on to the show, and I've got two donations.
Well, he sets back with zero.
I find this unacceptable.
From FEMA Region 5, Josh Hastings.
All right, Josh.
Howdy from FEMA Region 6 here.
From Nine.
Rock Harvey.
219.98.
Prince Rupert in BC. Glad to know I hit someone hard enough in the mouth that it stuck.
This is the last show where he was called out as a douchebag.
Yes, he was.
But they beat me to an associate producer credit, which I probably needed to correct.
When I heard you guys call my name a porn star name...
Rock Harvey.
I laughed so hard I almost ran off the road.
Love all you do.
Here's some value for value, which is 66 times 3.3 to 1998.
I work at the Coast Guard as a radio operator and vessel.
Vessel.
Vessel.
And a vessel.
And also a vessel traffic regulator, if you can throw me some Morse code karma.
You've got karma.
You got it.
Yeah, but I remain.
Rock Harvey.
Rock hard Harvey.
Harvey so hard as a rock.
You should use that voice when you do your audition.
Ha ha ha.
You should?
No, they'll never take me.
Yeah, I know, but they'll never...
They're always like, we don't want an announcer guy.
I'm going to go, here you go, Toyota.
It's a great car.
I love it.
You know what people say they want and what they want?
I know, but it's like you try to follow instructions, directions, whatever.
Yeah, they always say the same thing.
Please, please, we don't want it to sound like an announcer.
Must be 30, young, hip, with it, relatable.
It's always the same words, and then I'm going to do that?
Yeah!
What was it?
Was it here?
No, it was Kellogg's.
I got it here.
I got the thing right here.
Here it is.
So the instructions literally read, Specs, we are looking for a man roughly around 30 years old who want a very natural, laid-back read.
This talent should not sound like an announcer, and you're telling me to do this.
Every morning, in every corner of the world, the golden sun cracks the horizon, unleashing a brand new day.
And as each of us stirs from our slumber, somewhere between half asleep and half awake, lies the question, what will the day ahead bring?
Will it be brimming with promise and optimism?
That's why Kellogg's is there every morning we rise, with a bowl of delicious, sunshine-filled possibilities, the goodness of grains.
That's what you suggest?
Yeah.
Okay.
I'll try it next time.
All right.
Okay.
Well, you didn't get the job, so you wouldn't have heard.
Richard Horazenek in Easton, Pennsylvania.
He's written in before.
He sent a note and came in with a check, mailed in.
I was listening to an interview with an author named Ellen Brown, who wrote a book defending former governor of New York, Elliot Spitzer, which we talked about him being set up by the banks, of course.
Right.
She was talking about how powerful the banks are and then mentioned the Wesley Clark Seven.
Her theory was that those seven countries had independent central banks and therefore were declared rogue nations that had to be toppled.
Did you see the Luke Rakowski-West Clark interview?
Yeah.
I got a clip if you want it.
Yeah, we'll play it.
Now?
No, let's play it after we're done here.
Oh, we're done.
No, I'm not done yet.
I'm still reading from his note.
Sorry.
Oh, hey.
Jeez.
How many times do I have to tell you?
I can't do all this stuff just on the fly?
Hold on a second.
What is it?
Roundtable Rewards.
What is it?
Airline what?
Van Winkle Bourbon.
Say the whole thing.
Well, he says Pappy Van Winkle Bourbon.
Recommended by JCD. Served by Oktoberfest Frauleins.
Served by Oktoberfest Frauleins.
Would you mind emailing me that before the show next time?
No.
Okay.
It's a letter that he wrote.
I'm not going to deal with it.
Okay, so that's our producers and executive producers, associated executive producers for Show 551.
Remind people to go to Dvorak.org slash NA. ChannelDvorak.com slash NA. NoAgendaShow.com and NoAgendaNation.com.
You'll find a button there to punch with your mouse arrow to go to a donation page.
Quick PR updates.
Our peerage map has been updated.
Sir AJ Reistad takes care of that.
ITM.AM slash peers.
Itm.im slash peers.
He is taking it upon himself to find out who has protectorates, who owns what.
So if you're ever in a bind and you need to know which knight, dame, duke, baron, grand duke, whoever's taking care of a place, you can get in touch with them and I'm sure they'll hook you up.
Take them out.
Take them out, right.
And then a shout to Ramsey.
No, what is this again?
It's atm.im?
No, itm.im.
Oh, itm.
Dot im.
You know, we have a URL shortener, itm.im slash peers.
Shout out to Ramsey Kane.
Okay, go on.
Okay.
IndiaTangoMike.
I got it, I got it.
It came up.
You're lying.
That's nice.
I like it.
You got it.
NoagendaCD.com.
That's what I've been trying to get out for the past minute here.
He has...
I guess you sent out the newsletter.
Yes.
And a lot...
Yeah.
It had a lot of...
It had a pitch in there for helping distribute our show.
And if you go to noagendaCD.com, Ramsey will help.
And, you know, it's crazy.
Ramsey, his boss makes him do this as his job.
Yeah, I think his boss is...
Yeah, it's his job.
It's a prince's.
And so he got over 15 volunteers in the first few hours and just wanted to highlight two of them.
One is a social studies teacher.
He wants 150 pipeline discs for his students.
That makes me proud.
And let's see.
Ramsey is a No Agenda listener, long-haul trucker.
I feel I'm perfect for this opportunity to spread the message of No Agenda Nation.
I'm out four to six weeks at a time.
Cover the lower 48 Gitmo Nation proper as well as Gitmo Nation Great White North.
And this is Anthony, the BlackBerry super abuser.
It makes total sense to have a trucker.
I think all the truckers should be listening to Nogin.
I've been in conversation with him and others.
And the feedback I get is truckers, apparently, especially at the big truck stops, like to talk a big game about politics.
But everything they get to talk about is derived from listening to Rush Limbaugh or Fox News.
That's about it.
You can't get much else when you're really trucking across the country.
Right, well, if you have XM, a lot of them will bring in the satellite, but then, again, it's the same people, there's just more of them, and they don't get this twist on the news that we have, which is that we read, for example, today, you had a very good report on this human...
Tolerance.
The tolerance diversity thing that everyone did.
These truckers need to know this.
It's great for conversation.
People, you go to the truck stop, you know this stuff, and you throw it out.
How did you find that out?
You say, well, I listened to the No Agenda show, and you slap a disc down.
Or if the trucker knows the people that own the truck stop, they can ask him, can we put a bunch of discs here over here by the cashier?
Is that possible?
Yeah, you can put them down.
I listen to that show.
I think we're going to have a group of very important people, Teamsters, listening to the show.
Get in on it, people.
You can also, and thank you, Blaze L from BL Domains.
He is forwarding noagenda.cd to noagendacd.com.
So this seems like a new thing.
This is working.
I like it a lot.
This is very good because we know that there's only a small percentage of our listeners support the show financially.
A large percentage can't.
It's just so broke.
When you're eating 69-cent mac and cheese, I get it.
So we know that by increasing the force, increasing the audience, that'll help somehow down the line, won't it?
Oh, absolutely.
Not only that, but it gives us the opportunity to call on the Teamsters if we get in trouble.
Yes, that's exactly right.
Our formula is this.
We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
Order!
Order!
Shut up, slaves!
Shut up, slaves!
Sorry about that.
A little slippage there on the old jingle machine.
Everything seems to be holding out, though, today, John.
You said Comcast came to check out your system?
They did a good job.
No, they didn't.
No?
No.
Oh, you've sounded great so far.
Do I sound great?
Yeah, you really sound great.
Yeah, yes, because I swapped out the Comcast connection for DSL during the break when you were fixing your mic.
Really?
Yeah.
This is the best it's ever been in a month.
That's because it's DSL, and here's the joke of it.
The Comcast is running at...
And they did look around.
They said, oh, it's probably because...
The packet loss is because of these loose connections.
So they fixed it all.
And so then I'm...
And I got my bandwidth went up again to 50.
So it's 50 up.
No, 10 up and 50 down.
You'd think that would be good enough.
Right.
So I'm watching this thing as we're talking...
Because I have to report back and say whether this worked or not.
And so we're yakking away your...
Moaning and groaning about your mic, which I still don't quite understand what you fixed.
I can tell you later.
So anyway, I said, I've been looking at the packet thing, and I said, there's a 3.1% packet loss popping up, popping up, popping up.
Every so often, I said, this is bull crap.
So I decided I'd just go straight into the DSL connection.
I got it from sonic.net.
It's only going to be used for this, by the way, although I use their phone service, which is fantastic, because now I don't pay anything to AT&T, and I get a phone with long distance and everything else included part of the deal.
But the joke is, and I went to Annex M, which allows me to get bigger upstream, and it kills my downstream input.
Here's the joke of it.
I'm not very close to the...
Exchange.
The exchange.
So now you're telling me I got a really good connection here.
You sound good.
I sound good going out.
The Comcast is 50 down and 10 up.
This is 1.5 up, 1.5 down.
And it sounds better than anything's ever sounded.
Yes.
Now what does that tell you?
I'm pretty sure that the infrastructure of Comcast, there's something loose.
And the only serious replies we got from people was, you know, the coax could be expanding in the heat, there's corrosion, they'd have to check like all these transformers down the line.
And now you're not going to notice this too much on just surfing web pages and downloading porn.
But it's really when you're doing the show and you need to get the packets out, what's happening?
Skype will drop packets.
All the other protocols that we've tried will start to store it up, and that's when we get like a second latency.
Because it's reassembling packets not to give you a bad experience, but therefore you do build up latency.
Well, I have had zero packet losses in this entire thing since I reconnected.
Zero.
Yeah, that's great.
And it's running at 1.5.
You know, Skype only needs 50 kilobits.
I know.
It doesn't need much at all.
So it doesn't need much at all.
So why can't Comcast or these cable companies, Comcast in this case.
It's not about the bandwidth.
It's about literally your connection was breaking.
Your connection is just, it's intermittent.
It's like rattling keys on your motherboard.
You just, you know, that's not going to work at a certain point.
It's not about just the bandwidth.
It's the intermittentness of it.
So that's the issue.
So I guess we're just on the DSL from now on because Comcast can't...
They don't care.
At these high speeds...
Comcast doesn't care.
They don't care.
Comcast doesn't care.
I was sent up to executive extradition or some crazy...
Executive rendition.
It was some crazy, high-performance, top-of-the-list people that were supposed to help me.
The guy comes right out, you know, and they fix all his stuff.
But I'm going to call him back and say, I had to pull it.
I can't do the podcast if your 50-megabit connection can't hold up.
In fact, we ban Comcast from this program.
We did?
Yeah, right now.
I've banned them officially.
Now, you're on cable modem.
It seems to be a better connection.
Yeah, I'm on Time Warner.
I have no idea why.
Well, you know, Austin has great connectivity in general.
I think we're one of the best connected cities because of just what we've got here.
Yeah.
So, that's why.
So anyway, so the Sonic.net thing is cheap, and I recommend it to anybody in California to use it, if you can get it.
And it's cheap, but what's cool is they give you the internet at whatever speed you can get from where you are, and a phone, so I move my AT&T phone line to this, and the phone has free long distance, and it's a POTS line.
It's not a digital bullcrap.
No, it's a real line.
It's a real line.
Yeah.
Nice.
Well, why don't you call me after the show?
Why?
Just so we can use our POTS lines.
Just a thought.
POTS lines.
Anyway, so that's the deal.
So now it's all resolved, and I'm going to just...
Oh, good.
Well, thank you.
Thank you very much for doing that.
I hate to say that I always knew it was on your end, but there you go.
So where were we?
Well, the IPCC report, the fifth version, I believe, is coming out tomorrow.
Oh, great.
And I want to remind people that just as important on Saturday night, Miss World.
So I'll be giving a report on the Sunday show.
Now, the problem with the IPCC report, there's a couple things going on with this.
And it was brought to my attention, of course.
We have in, I believe, New York City now, the Clinton Global Initiative is underway.
We have boots on the ground in the hotel reporting back.
Here is, at a certain point, and this apparently Charlie Rose...
It made it possible that Al Gore and Bill Clinton were on the same stage for the first time in ten years.
In ten years, I tell you.
And here's Gore giving his little extra pitch to all the elites at the Clinton Global Initiative and to the world as broadcast on CBS television.
When people feel and understand these extreme weather events, they're way more common and way more severe than they used to be.
Oh, really?
Really?
Well, okay.
Where's the hurricane season?
Where's the hit?
Bullshit!
Stand by.
And even people who don't want to get into a discussion about global warming are looking and noticing and saying, hey, we've got to do something about this.
No, no, no.
Have you been saying that to yourself, John?
I've never said that.
Oh, by the way.
Tell me tonight.
The science is in.
Science!
So this report is coming out and already they've leaked some details.
One of the most important details to note is that now 95% of all scientists are almost certain...
That humans play an active role in global warming.
I'm not making this up.
95% are almost certain, and most of them are more certain.
And this is according to the Pachari, the chief of this whole incredible scam.
But of course, things aren't really working out too well with that pesky climate and the weather.
One of the great puzzles in climate science is why over the past 15 years global warming has paused.
Now, one theory is that there's less output, less energy reaching us from the sun.
Another is that industrial pollution is reflecting some of that energy back out into space.
But perhaps the most plausible answer in the view of many scientists lies in the oceans.
If the air isn't warming up, maybe this vast body of water is.
It's quite a job trying to work out what's happening.
Are you trying to wake people up again?
That's a very good service, John.
That's a very good service.
The thing that really is a problem, of course, in this report is that, and just so you understand, the climate report, IPCC report, is based on computer models.
And these models, these are projections of what is going to happen, and they just haven't panned out.
So at a certain point, someone's going to say, this is bullshit, and your models are wrong, so what is really your report all about?
And, of course, a lot of scientists started to say this.
It turns out, in addition to the 95% being almost certain, is that 65% of the scientists are new on this report, John.
We found new scientists.
Well, you've got to keep swapping these other guys out.
So they got the new guys in.
This is really phenomenal.
And here is something that I think we pretty much predicted.
It came sooner than I expected.
It came within the six years we've been doing this podcast.
Weather modification will now be generally accepted as a way to combat climate change and storms.
And this is now being broadcast.
This is my favorite scientist.
Anything to trigger that damned ice age to kill the public.
Michu Kaku.
That's the crazy Asian guy who's always letting too much slip out.
And this report was just...
And what's the hot girl who's on CBS this morning with Charlie?
Savannah?
Yeah, Savannah.
Savannah Guthrie.
You know, she's for a brunette, right?
Which is hard on television.
I think brunettes are hard...
She's been a blonde and a brunette.
She does what they tell her.
She's good.
She does what she's told, Adam.
That's right, and she's got killer legs.
You know, they were talking about climate change yesterday.
She, by the way, says climate change, which is kind of an interesting little Freudian slip there.
You know, they were talking about climate change yesterday.
And now we're learning that scientists and researchers are looking at how to change the weather on purpose.
That's right.
Lasers now could one day manipulate rain and lightning.
CBS This Morning contributor Michio Kaku is a physics professor at City College of New York.
Professor, nice to see you.
Extraordinary seeing Al Gore and Bill Clinton there together with Charlie, wasn't it?
That's right, yeah.
They did not get into this discussion, though.
Because, you know, that would give away their plan.
But it is fascinating.
I mean, lasers?
Really?
To change the weather?
They're going to bring so much into this report, but it gets really good when we talk about the United States, as we have discussed, being actively engaged in weather modification.
That's right.
Well, as Mark Twain once famously said, everyone complains about the weather, but no one ever does anything about it.
Well, instead of doing a rain dance, we physicists are firing trillion-watt lasers into the sky to actually precipitate rain clouds and actually bring down lightning bolts.
This is potentially a game changer.
But this is experimental.
It's experimental.
However, in the laboratory so far it works.
When you have water vapor and you have dust particles or ice crystals, you can precipitate rain.
It condenses around the seeds.
These seeds can also be created by laser beams.
By firing trillion watt lasers, you rip apart the electrons, creating what are called ions, and these ions act like seeds, like dust particles, bringing down rain and even lightning.
Judy, go ahead.
Well, this fascinates me.
Isn't he describing the way you can make ozone in the atmosphere?
Isn't that an ozone phenomenon?
Where you just rip apart the atoms?
No, this is actually more like Tesla stuff.
Because this is the stuff that Tesla was into.
Let's see, the laser beam goes up and it's going to be ripping apart a bunch of...
I hate to be a private plane.
It's only a trillion watts.
All right, now, this is where it gets funny.
Yes, too, I remember reading the stories that China had used this during the Olympics, that the USSR had used this after Chernobyl to create rain clouds.
I mean, did those really work then?
We have some of these capabilities now?
Inconclusive.
Even in the 60s, the CIA used this to bring down monsoons during the Vietnam War to wash out the Viet Cong.
Governments have been...
All right, so what's going on now in the control room...
Oh, shit!
No, he didn't.
No.
No, no.
That's classified.
We can't talk about that.
Alleged to.
Alleged to.
Alleged to, right.
Thanks, Savannah.
Good work.
Good work, Savannah.
We realize that for decades now.
Right.
She got this bug in her ear.
Yeah.
And he's like, no, no.
Say allege.
Say allege.
Being down rain and even lightning.
Let's hear it again.
I'm sorry.
I'm backing it up here.
I want to hear her say the way she drops a legend, because you're right.
They're panicking in the control room and somebody, or because there's an agent in there.
Yes, the agent.
What?
No, no.
The script said alleged, alleged, alleged.
Savannah, Savannah, Savannah, Savannah.
...the stories that China had used this during the Olympics, that the USSR had used this after Chernobyl to create rain clouds.
I mean, did those really work then?
We have some of these capabilities now.
Inconclusive.
Even in the 60s, the CIA used this to bring down monsoons during the Vietnam War to wash out the Viet Cong.
Governments have been playing with this thing.
Alleged to.
Alleged to, right.
You know that that came into the earpiece.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
There's no reason she would have said that in a million years.
Alleged to.
I am repeating what I hear in my ear.
Now, we realize that for decades...
Hold on a second.
This is too good not to discuss further.
Well, don't you want to hear the rest and then we can discuss?
Yeah, we will hear the rest.
But I'm telling you right now, I want to know why...
Okay, play the rest of it, and then I'll think about this some more.
Governments have been alleged to have experimented with this.
Now he's back.
Now he's back on the train.
He's awake now.
But nothing conclusive.
This time we're bringing in the laws of physics, rather than simply waving our hands and uttering mumbo-jumbo.
We're actually using trillion-watt lasers now.
And in the laboratory, sure enough, they precipitate rain out of water vapor.
Sure enough, you can actually bring down electricity down the beam.
So what does it mean for drought areas that need to have rain for crops and if they don't have it?
Or like Colorado when we want to kill people and mess everybody up.
There's the consequences of famine.
Well, the bad news is if it's a clear blue sky, it's not going to do anything at all because it only takes water vapor that's already in the air and condenses it.
Oh, how do we get water vapor into the air?
I'm telling you, John, this is just the beginning.
They're going to tell us how they're going to save our life and all this geoengineering.
It's so smart.
And, you know, of course, we have experience and other countries have been doing it.
But, you know, we've only allegedly been doing it.
But now we have trillion watt lasers.
We're going to save you.
We're going to save the world.
With the chemtrails, water vapor.
Let's get one thing straight.
There's no water vapor in supposed chemtrails, and there's no contrails when there's no water vapor, so that's bullcrap.
Okay.
If there's no water vapor, like in Saudi Arabia over the Sahara Desert, they're not going to do anything that can create that unless they build a big mountain or something.
Unless it's just a reason to chemtrail.
I don't think that's it.
I don't know what they're up to.
I just don't know that we have a clue.
But if they're starting to talk like this, it's frightening.
This is not the thing that should be discussed.
You know what this is?
Because we've predicted this.
We have talked about weather modification coming into the vocabulary of the media as a common, normal thing for years.
It probably even predates the book, but still.
I hope that doesn't become a common theme.
I love it.
So I went back, and all of this, with IPCC coming out and everything happening, I went back to...
Because a lot of this is being propagated by the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation.
And I'm really, really...
Goodbye, darling.
I'm really worried about him and what he's doing.
Who?
Bill?
Gates.
Gates.
I have the feeling, clearly Melinda is his handler.
Bill Gates, I think he's a mathematician, programmer.
When did he become a biologist, a meteorologist, a climatologist, a vaccinologist?
He's not a doctor.
He dropped out of school, didn't he?
He doesn't even have a degree.
He doesn't have a degree.
No, he doesn't.
He's essentially a disc jockey with more money.
It's like, okay, but when did he become like...
And I think what happens is when you are in...
So there's this...
You become really, really wealthy somehow.
And a lot of people steal it, but you become wealthy.
And certainly in America, I think this is happening.
And then you get an invitation.
And it's like a party or like a club or something.
You go there and you walk in like, holy crap!
There's Clinton, there's Buffett, there's Bono, there's some Saudi Arabia.
It's like the richest people in the universe.
You've got the biggest bankers, Jamie Diamonds, everyone.
And they all sit around like, how can we save the world?
And they convince themselves of these things.
I don't even think they're evil.
I think they're just morons.
It's the billionaire moron club.
Phenomenal.
It's very common.
And they're like, well, if only we killed more people.
No, if you think you're the smartest guy in the room, and then it's reconfirmed by your wealth, because only smart people get rich.
You're right.
So I've got a bunch of money for whatever reason, so I must be really smart based on my net worth.
And so I'm with a bunch of other guys, and they're loaded.
So we have to be a smart, smart group so we can figure this out because we're so smart.
Exactly.
And then they come up with stuff like the Georgia Guidestones or whatever.
Who knows where it comes from?
But I think they literally pump each other up into believing that they are doing well for the universe.
And as I went back, I only clipped a minute, a little minute and 15, of the Bill Gates TED Talk where he says carbon dioxide has to go to zero.
Yeah, right.
Which means we can't breathe.
Let me see.
Do I have the...
Yeah, actually we should do this because we need to go back in time to listen to what he is actually saying.
It's a no agenda classic clip.
No agenda.
No, no, no, no, no.
Now, we put out a lot of carbon dioxide every year, over 26 billion tons.
For each American, it's about 20 tons.
For people in poor countries, it's less than one ton.
It's an average of about five tons for everyone on the planet.
And somehow we have to make changes that will bring that down to zero.
What?
You can't have zero.
You can't have zero.
And then he throws this equation up on the screen.
It's been constantly going up.
It's only various economic changes that have even flattened it at all.
So we have to go from rapidly rising to falling and falling all the way to zero.
And just as a side note, part of the problem with the IPCC reporting is that the CO2 levels have increased, but the temperature hasn't.
So now the theory is diverging on the charts.
And so this is now kind of breaking this theory apart.
This is not helping.
No.
This equation has four factors.
By the way, I want to remind people that we've discussed this on the show and we've predicted is that because the divergence has started already and started a while ago where the CO2 and the climate differentiation is not lockstep together anymore,
that's why they're panicking to get these climate things started so at least when things stop You know, when the cycle goes the other way, they can say, wow, all these things we did is what changed and what helped.
It's helping us a lot faster than we thought.
We first thought it was going to take a thousand years to turn things around, but it turns out that by taking quick action, we made a difference.
Obama saved the world.
Anyway, sorry, go on.
And so, of course, I'm not playing this without reason, because it's very possible, or there's likelihood, that these trillion watt lasers could be used to create storms.
Because that's essentially what they do is create storms.
So you're creating storms.
They're creating monsoons casually over Vietnam.
Allegedly.
Allegedly.
With hardly the kind of power and expertise we have today or the colors.
Imagine what you could do in Colorado if you really wanted to try.
You have to experiment here and there.
They may be experimenting in India.
There's a huge flooding that's not reported.
By the way, that's where I'd do it.
Because that works out with Bill Gates' theory.
Let's finish up.
So you've got a thing on the left, CO2, that you want to get to zero.
And that's going to be based on the number of people.
The services each person's using on average, the energy on average for each service, and the CO2 being put out per unit of energy.
So let's look at each one of these and see how we can get this down to zero.
Probably one of these numbers is going to have to get pretty near to zero.
Listen to everyone in the audience laughing, because they know.
They know the thing that needs to go to zero is the P. Back from high school algebra.
But let's take a look.
First we've got population.
Now listen very closely to what he says.
Very, very closely.
We haven't done this in a while.
This is a classic clip.
The world today has 6.8 billion people.
That's headed up to about 9 billion.
Now if we do a really great job on new vaccines, healthcare, reproductive health services, we could lower that by perhaps 10 or 15 percent.
Okay.
Let me just play that back and you tell me what I'm hearing.
We could lower the amount of people on Earth with vaccines and great health care.
How does that?
I don't understand.
I know what his logic, what he purports to, what his purported logic is, but if you think about it, it doesn't make any sense.
What he says, of course, is that we can do all this.
He says that if you have a family unit that is healthy and vaccined up and all the rest, you'll have less children because when you have a situation where the children are dying off constantly, you reproduce more.
But if you think about it, that doesn't make any sense at all because if all the kids are just dying all the time, how does that...
Work that you would save these kids with vaccines.
There's an ill logic built into what he has to say, and I've heard him discuss it before, and it still stinks.
It doesn't work out.
It just doesn't feel right.
Anyway, but I... The guy wants to spend...
Why does he spend money on getting rid of poverty?
One of the things that...
And he could do a fine job of that because he's got so much money, but let's take a...
I want to go back, harken back to the educational report.
Well, it's funny because I wanted to play you one...
We're on the same team.
I'm going to transition into the Bill Gates speech about education.
And then you can pick it up from there.
Okay, then I'll tell you what our writer said about this.
Yes, and I actually marked up a whole bunch of stuff.
So here is Bill Gates about, and this relates to Common Core.
You need to be looking at this.
And I hope that these early adopters...
And the work they're doing and the results they have will build the momentum and really get the reality of the Common Core Standards rolled out as quickly as possible.
This really is a critical piece to allow us to be more scientific and more data-driven in our efforts to improve schools.
Yes, data-driven, scientific approach.
You want to take it?
No, keep going.
Okay, so Common Core, this is what he's talking about.
And this is why I can tell you that not only is he in the billionaire moron club, but this, along with the Clinton Global Initiative, but really what Gates is doing...
He is in a game that is above everything else, John.
This is where the real money is being made.
When you take every single U.S. child and you're going to roll out this Common Core, this encompasses everything.
This is how the schools run, how the networking is done.
If you go to Common Core, I think it's commoncore.org, I believe.
You can start to figure out who the partners are.
And yes, of course it's going to be Microsoft.
It's going to be all of the networking guys.
It's all the educational people, the books.
I mean, they are redoing the entire education system and it will accomplish a number of things.
One, a huge bonanza in money, in services, basically repackaging everything.
There's creepy companies that are making hundreds of millions of dollars to create the interface for this thing.
You need to go to inbloom.org.
This is like seven minute video of the teacher walking around with a tablet and then she's standing behind the kid and evaluating the kid's head.
And then, you know, it's like, oh, this is an underachiever.
Let's put that kid with the overachiever.
And they move the, you know, the seating positions.
It's completely robotizing the school system.
And, of course, it will eventually force homeschooling, etc., out of the picture.
And the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation are funding a lot of this, like ablechild.org and all these other crazy organizations that all funnel through the national community.
Governor's Association.
I want to play a clip of the smartest kids in the world.
This author, Amanda Ripley, was on...
The News Hour, and she was discussing her book, and they played a clip of these kids.
Apparently some American kids have gone, and they went through other school systems in the world, and then they reported back, I want to play this clip, and I want to discuss what she said about this.
Then I want to bring in the information that was brought up in the book, The Death and Life of the Great American School System, by Diane Ravitch, which is part of the educational report that I've yet to provide.
Nineteen-year-old Eric, finishing high school in Minneapolis, decides to spend a year in school in a South Korean city where students study through much of the night, then fall asleep in class.
In Korean high school, home and school intersect constantly.
If you're at home, you're either studying, eating, or sleeping.
If you're at school, you're studying, eating, or sleeping.
Kim, a fifteen-year-old in rural Oklahoma, jumps at the chance to study a year in Finland.
The students here care more.
They understand that it's important.
They may not like a class, but they know if they don't pass it, then they don't pass their tests, and it's harder to get to university.
And Tom, 17, travels from Pennsylvania to Poland for his senior year of high school.
There's a lot more respect for the teachers.
The classroom's a much more sober environment.
There's no joking around between student and teacher like there is in America.
Three students who help provide a lens on what makes for a successful education around the world and here at home.
It's the subject of a new book titled The Smartest Kids in the World.
Journalist and author Amanda Ripley.
Yeah, this is great.
So she comes up with this thesis and one of the key elements in it, and this will be interesting to see how people deal with this.
For one thing, Finland, which was one of the worst school systems in the world, is now, according to her, one of the best, if not the best.
And it's totally unlike the South Korean model, which is where they work these kids to death and they don't get anywhere.
In fact, they don't even do as well as the Finnish kids in so far as all this is concerned because they've changed the nature of the culture of the school system and of the teaching and the mechanism and what they teach.
And one of the things they've done is gotten rid of all these electronic bull crap.
Yeah.
Kids don't have iPads, they don't have notebooks, all this sort of thing.
Yeah, we're going in exactly the opposite direction.
And we're going in exactly the opposite direction.
And when Ravitch was on C-SPAN, and she's the one who authored the book The Death and Life of the Great American School System, and she was part of the education department for a while, she thinks it's bullcrap, and when you hear her speak, she's just fantastic, and she thinks Gates is doing the most damage of anyone by promoting bullcrap charter schools, which are a fraud.
Yep.
They cherry pick and they do all the rest of it.
And she claims that if these guys were serious, the real problem in the United States when it comes to, and it's not as much of a problem obviously in Finland, is poverty.
She says, I don't care what you do with the school system.
If a kid has a toothache and he's worried about getting beat up on the way to school and he's in a ghetto and his parents can't even take very good care of him, he's not learning anything.
That's not true.
The iPad can fix that.
That's exactly what this argument is.
The iPad can't fix anything.
And so she says that if we would attack poverty, which we're doing anything but, because everyone bitches about this, you know, we got the rich, rich, rich, who are all sitting around, there are little meetings, and they won't even talk to anybody that has a net income of less than $10 million a year, and you have a net worth of $100 million, then they can talk to you.
They're sitting around dreaming all this crap.
And the poverty situation in the United States, as everybody knows, is worsening and has been worsening since probably the mid-1980s, if not before, maybe the 70s.
And that's what needs to be addressed.
And Ravitch goes on and on about this.
She says this is a fraud.
It's a complete fraud.
And now what you bring up is also a money grab.
It's a money-soaking fraud.
I looked at it, so I pulled the 990 on the National Governors Association.
What is this?
So all the governors...
This is how the money flows through the states for this kind of stuff.
Common Core is being implemented by the states.
So far, 45 states are on board.
Notably, Texas, one of them not jumping on board because we're not morons here in Texas.
Yeah, we got our problems, but we're not total morons.
And at least someone's not being bought out by this, which is strange considering it's Perry...
Because he's pretty much on board with anything he can get his hands on, but maybe he just can't do it legally.
So this NGA, which, and I have the Form 990 here, here's their mission as described by their tax filing.
To provide tailored technical assistance for challenges facing the states, identify and share best practices, and serve as an information clearinghouse on gubernatorial initiatives.
And I'm looking at these guys, they got $20 million.
They're a PR agency.
This is a legal, tax-exempt PR agency for the soaking that is taking place and the implementation of this Common Core, which includes this new thing that we should be all over, the P20 data systems.
Oh my God.
This is what you need to know.
The P20 data systems.
The only truly longitudinal data system fully realized P20 system tracks not only an individual's academic or educational achievement, but also provides a picture of their post-education or career experience.
With the billions of records we have cleansed, integrated, loaded, and analyzed, we have gained insights into both the complexity and the profound value of comprehensive data.
We've also learned a great deal about what it takes to design and implement P20 Longitudinal Data System.
This is from eScholar, just one of the many, many companies jumping on this gravy train of this...
It's basically a format...
And your kid is being tracked for everything.
Everything you do, it's all about the data.
If you're an artist, if you're an underachiever, you're going to get booted.
You're going to get thrown out like an invalid stamp.
This is the most dangerous thing I've seen.
This goes beyond NSA. This goes beyond all of that.
That parents don't understand.
You need to take your child out of the school system immediately.
Immediately.
Well, I'm looking at Achieve.org, which is a big P20 operation.
Funded by Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation.
And the chairman of the board, Craig Barrett, former CEO of Intel.
Yeah.
Of course, because they'll be...
And if you look at the InBloom presentation...
That's not an Apple, by the way.
It's not an iPad.
It's some kind of proprietary tablet running what looks like, I have to say, a Windows 8 interface with blocks.
Kind of like the...
What was the name?
I've never had one.
What was the name of that failed front end they had?
Metro?
Metro.
Windows 8, yes.
It's not failed.
They're still selling it.
I'm sorry.
Yes.
Right.
You mean the piece?
You said piece of crap.
Oh, yeah.
Piece of crap.
It's different.
It failed.
I'm sorry.
I thought it would fail.
I thought no one would.
They didn't sell the tablets.
The only thing that failed was apparently there was a trademark on Metro and somebody else owned it.
But they had like a million, a billion dollars worth of write-offs on this stuff.
No, that was because they couldn't sell the Surface Pro, or no, the Surface NT, or the Surface RT. And they just had them in the warehouse, so they wrote them all off instead of selling them to people for $200, which they could have done, or $100, and made the money back.
It's just bookkeeping.
This is terrible.
This is just another high-tech money grab.
And I give Silicon Valley plenty of credit because they always think about different ways to gouge the public.
And they've done a wonderful job of it over the decades with crap and junk.
And, you know, products nobody needs.
Let me tell you something else.
Because of the way this...
Bill Gates must be stopped, people.
I'm very serious about this.
Bill Gates must be stopped.
It's no longer acceptable to think he's a cute little geeky man trying to save the world.
The dude is out of control, out of his depth, and is being handled to do evil things.
He doesn't even know it himself, but he has to be stopped.
And we have to speak vocally about this man.
You know what I mean?
He's one of the greatest philanthropists in history.
It's unacceptable.
It is unacceptable what this man is doing.
It has to be stopped.
He's trying to stop malaria.
What's wrong with you?
Because DDT was a fine solution.
It worked fine.
We didn't need mosquito nets.
Just threw this stuff over you and you've lived forever.
It was too cheap.
No, seriously, these are the people that you forget to look at.
When I think of evil, Hillary Clinton comes to mind.
It's like Hitler comes to mind.
Boy, I don't know how I got the bone.
You did it.
Yeah, I did it.
I did it.
I'm sorry.
Yeah, I did it.
Wake everybody up.
Thank you.
That's in case you're driving.
But Bill Gates is not the guy.
And you watch him like, oh, he's kind of cute.
And everyone's like, ha ha ha.
And he was so smart.
He's not smart.
He stole an operating system and sold it.
Repackaged it.
He's not a genius in this regard.
But he's been handled into this position.
And I think this is dangerous stuff.
Unless, of course, we can get a consulting gig out of it and then I might change my mind.
That, of course, is the model here at the No Agenda Show.
I'm going to show my support by donating to No Agenda.
Imagine all the people who could do that.
Oh, yeah, that'd be fab.
And let me explain why this is so dangerous and why we can talk about this.
See, You will be watching PBS, the new news hour, which is funded by...
By the way, let me stop you.
It is deteriorating under this new model.
I can't tell you how, but it is.
They got the two hosts now, and they changed the sets, and they make everyone wear red and colorful clothes, like clowns.
And they moved Anne Margaret, whatever her name is, out to sea.
She's on the road all the time down.
So is Jeffrey Brown.
He's never in the studio much.
And they've got this thing changed, and the show, for some reason, has lost something.
I don't know what it is.
I think somebody...
Behind the camera, to be honest about it, I don't know who it is.
I wish somebody, maybe we have a contact there, I'm not sure.
But I'm convinced somebody behind the camera quit.
The guy who says, no, no, no, no, that story's boring.
Well, yeah, it's called the editorial function of the program, which we know was changed because Bill and Melinda Gates said, yeah, we're thinking of pulling our $3 million donation.
What?
They pulled it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But they control so much.
And they said, unless you make these changes, and now they're still showing up again.
And it's really, you know, this is why you have things like the Bilderberg Drinking Club, because you have these powerful people, they've got their system, and it's an elixir.
You get close to these people, they have a sheen around them.
I've been near these.
I've been one of them briefly.
Yeah.
And then you have this, like, untouchable thing, and then you're part of the club, and then the media sucks up to you, and they'll go, oh yeah, no, and then opinion has changed.
But when you're down here in the mac and cheese trenches, that's when you can actually speak truth to power, John.
Well, we can't because we're supported by you, the producer-listener.
Yes.
And we can say, well, we can say, I don't think if we were on any sort of network or public broadcasting what Adam just said about Bill Gates...
You'd never...
It wouldn't happen.
No.
We'd have a meeting right after the show.
You can't say that.
Yeah.
And you said, you know, we're going to have to...
We're going to lose some of our affiliates.
Yep.
That kind of thing.
Yeah.
Advertising, local, the local Microsoft...
Local advertisers don't like that.
This guy's like...
He knows Bill.
Bill's a nice guy.
Anyway, we do have some people to thank to keep us going.
Ken McColpin in Imperial, Pennsylvania, $150.
He makes a nice little point here.
I'm sitting here writing out my cable internet bill, and it occurred to me that I owe you guys at least as much as I spend on my TV every month.
Now, I'm not sure I can keep this up every month, but I will never know unless I start trying.
Thank you very much.
Now, there you go.
That's our value-for-value model.
Thank you.
Sir Andrew Lemansany in Colorado Springs, 12345.
Helen Barbour in Willeton, Australia, 100.
And we have a birthday call out coming for her.
Jonathan Whitehead, 7979, Lincoln, Nebraska.
Jeffrey Yerke, our old buddy over here, is helping me with the Red Fox compilations, 7777 in Concord.
And his wife is great.
Apollo Jacob.
Did you just say his wife is great?
Well, she's the one that was sick and we gave him a karma.
And she's healed.
She's healed.
Thank you.
We healed her!
Paolo Jacob, 7777, in Mount Wrath, Ireland.
Oh, nice.
He says, hope to see you guys someday in Dublin.
Drinks are on me.
Well, that means a lot in Ireland.
That's right.
Rolf Lehman in Wiesenville, Switzerland.
And I think you need a jingle here.
Oh.
Last time John had butchered my name or my city.
Hold on a second.
I'm sorry.
So maybe you can pronounce it like Wadensville.
69!
69, dudes!
Yeah!
Sorry about that.
It just slipped right in there.
And boy, people have come back with a vengeance on the swazzle enough karma.
Well, at least today.
Andrew Fontenot in Lake Charles, Louisiana, 6969.
These are all 6969s.
Michael Thomas, Fort Wayne, Indiana.
Keith McColpin, Imperial, Pennsylvania.
Sir Alan of Upper Hawes Bottom in the UK, 69, 69.
Oh, the Grand Duke Stephen Tellsmacher's from...
Hold on a second.
Hold on a second.
Whatever happens, it's got to be...
The Lord's, dames, knights, slaves, and elites.
Please be upstanding for another donation from the Grand Duke, Ron Tellsmacher.
Yes.
The only guy who's got his own jingle on the show.
He has his own jingle, yes, and we must play it as a part of the new rules.
Yes.
David Carey in Claremont, Florida.
And Richard Breslin finally in Arlington.
Oh, Arlington, Richard.
Hello, Arlington.
69!
69!
Thank you.
That was enough.
Thank you very much.
Then we follow up with a slew of 66-66s.
Sack of sixes for our sixes.
Sack of sixes, which should celebrate our sixth anniversary coming up next month.
Next month is in a couple of days.
Alt-29 Design Group in Spokane, Washington.
Peter Hollett in Gander, Newfoundland.
Todd LG in Katy, Texas.
That's right up the street from you.
It sure is.
Donald Ripple in Dresden, Ohio.
Chris Collins, Parts Unknown.
David Kepler, Phoenix, Arizona.
Sir Who's Ever from Cyberspace.
And finally, Jeremy Goldsworthy from Parts Unknown.
All 6666.
Thank you very much for those sacks of sixes.
It's nice to know that our six years on the air is appreciated.
And are we going to do a big sack of sixes, thanks, specifically?
Yeah, we're going to put a page up.
Huge page.
Huge page.
Okay, good.
So there's a birthday coming out to Helen, who now goes to 11, from Todd.
Scott Olson, San Diego, California, double nickels on the dime.
We have some karma at the end.
You can suck off that.
Suck that karma.
It's good stuff.
John Carlson in Brookings, South Dakota.
Christopher McClymont, 55.
That was 5507.
That's $55 from Christopher in Lewisham, New South Wales.
Mark David Terry.
We might want to talk about Australia a little bit more, I think, by the way.
There's some good stuff going on there.
Kevin Payne, Chantilly, Virginia.
Mark David Terry, Columbia, Ohio.
Shad Rich, Seattle, Washington.
And these are all 50s.
Sang Ho G, Severn, Maryland.
Sang Ho G is a student.
He's always sending us...
He's a student in Maryland and he's sending us all the...
He sent us the first check he ever wrote.
That's right.
That's correct.
And he's out of the...
He's out of checks.
He went crazy.
Oh, by the way, let me mention something to you, Sang Ho, or G. Make sure to have somebody show you some...
He doesn't quite fill out the check properly.
Oh.
He doesn't write out the number, and he does a couple of other things that are offbeat.
Okay, all right.
But they go through.
Oh, really?
Good.
And finally, Daniel Armstrong of Schweitzingen.
And we've got Mark Fogwell from Ohio.
Mark Fogwell in Strongsville, Ohio.
We have a...
Birthday shout-out.
Birthday shout-out.
Actually, yeah, Eric.
And last but not least, Macy Stolowski.
Stolowski.
Stolowski.
I don't know.
We've got to get that pronunciation down.
I would say Macy.
I think it's Macy.
And Michael Hasenkamp of Santa Clara, which is right down the street from me.
I want to thank them and all the other producers, executive producers, and other donors that came in at lesser amounts for keeping us going with show 551.
Thanks.
And, yes, thank you for supporting our model.
It is the only way we keep the show rolling.
Last time I checked, nothing came in from the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation.
Yeah.
Wouldn't that be funny?
Would we roll over for enough money?
Would there be a certain point?
Oh, it would have to be way more than, you know, it would have to be from them?
Probably not.
I mean, I think we'd take the money, but I don't think we'd change anything.
No.
What if there were strings attached?
Hey, before we go on, they're not giving us a nickel.
A girl can dream, can't you?
A girl can dream, can't you?
We have more likelihood of getting an anonymous donation from the CIA, which we would take.
Yeah, we would take that.
We wouldn't know where it came from than we will from any of these big foundations.
All right, everybody.
Those of you who requested it, bend over.
Here it comes.
Suck off the karma pipe.
You've got karma.
And I see Eric the Shill added a little note here.
A shout-out request from Eric the Shill to Ian Garling, who is Elise Garling's brother.
That's the Limoncello babe.
The salmon-catching babe.
Oh, the salmon-catching babe.
Yeah, I haven't seen a Limoncello recently.
I really liked her Limoncello.
We haven't had her wine yet.
We've got to try that.
Anyway, he's been kidding people in the mouth.
Karma for both of them, please.
Absolutely.
So they can also suck off that karma pipe.
And a reminder, if you would like to help us out for our Sunday show, where I'm sure we'll have plenty more analysis for you and in-depth conversation about all the good stuff, go to...
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It's your birthday, birthday.
I'm no one champion.
Chris Collins, congratulations, girlfriend, Mickey Baker.
She's celebrating today.
Helen Barbour says happy birthday to her boyfriend, Bard Ingram, 33, on the 28th.
That'll be Saturday.
Paul Jacob's daughter, Finn, turned seven today.
Todd, LG's daughter's Helen, 11 years old yesterday.
Congratulations there, human resource.
And Mark Fogwell congratulates his son, Eric, who is 19 today and apparently is kicking butt in school and he's very proud.
So congratulations, happy birthday from all your buddies here at the No Agenda Show!
And then we have a title change.
Actually, we have a black knighting, as somehow we overlooked Philip Smith.
We gave him the credit, we gave him the title, but we never knighted him on the show.
Which is lame.
Well, I know there was somebody we didn't knight, and we did a make good right on the show.
Yeah, but this is a new one.
Okay, well that's fine.
And then we have Richard Hraznek.
Wait a minute, is it Richard?
Yeah, Richard is the one who wanted the Winkle bourbon.
Okay, so we got all that set up.
So let's bring these two gentlemen up.
Yes, that would do it.
And Philip Smith, step forward, gentlemen.
The two of you have become knights of the Noah General Roundtable for your contribution to the program in the amount of $1,000 or more, and we highly appreciate your value-for-value contribution.
I hereby pronounce thee, Philip Smith, sir!
Sir Philip Smith, Black Knight of the Noagent Roundtable.
And Sir Dick Hrasnick, or Richard if you wish.
Knight of the Noagent Roundtable for you gentlemen.
Pappy Van Winkle bourbon served by Oktoberfest, Fraulein's Hookers and Blows, Geisches, three Geisches and a bucket of fried chicken.
Poison Chardonnay, Hot Pants and Booze, Long-Haired Heavy Metal Guys and Scotch Winches and Beer, a whole bunch of other things including mutton and mead.
The list has become too long, I need to cull it.
I think the list needs to be called.
We should have a meeting.
Right after the show.
So the list needs to be called, yes.
It's too long.
A reminder, we also have a very important number coming up.
555 will be the episode.
It's a special number.
On 1010.
Will it be on 1010?
Yes.
Wow.
Five, five, five.
And 1010, by the way, is a major, major Chinese.
So our five Chinese listeners might be interested in this.
Major Chinese, kind of a holiday celebration, lucky 1010 day and all the rest of it.
555 is an interesting number if you look at the...
On 1010.
On 1010.
If you look at the Book of Knowledge, of course, 555 is the fictitious phone number exchange for all movies in America.
Yeah, just to make sure that you know you're watching a movie, they put that in there.
I've always hated that.
I've always thought that was so bad.
It's really bad.
In a text conversation, the number five in Thai is pronounced ha.
So three fives would be ha ha ha.
Wow, really?
That's fascinating.
No, not really.
There's also 555.com.
Where's 555 Wikipedia?
555 timer IC. It's an integrated circuit with a variety of timer pulse generators.
Yeah, okay.
We should probably stop while we're still ahead.
Yeah, 555.
It's a cool number.
I have an observation to make.
And maybe a solution.
Have you noticed this?
We were in Los Angeles, and before that we were in Marfa, so we've had dinner out a couple of times.
It seems to be, and this is a very...
I'm sorry, wait, wait, wait, stop.
You've had dinner out a couple of times?
You're talking about with some friends, not just...
You've always had dinner out a couple of times.
Well, no, no, we usually stay at home and cook.
Oh, okay.
So you don't go out much at all?
No, not really.
Oh, okay.
Well, that's fine.
But we have been out a couple of times in the past few weeks with enough people, you know, like four or six, where someone ordered meat, and there's a new question.
It used to be, how would you like that cooked?
Have you noticed, John, the new question now is, what temperature would you like that?
I've never heard this.
I heard it in four different restaurants.
But this has got to be a Texas thing.
No!
This was L.A. Were they sticking...
Oh, this is in L.A. Oh, God.
Were they sticking a thermometer in there?
But I've also heard it here in Austin.
And so I looked it up.
For medium, I guess, would be 152 degrees.
What did this happen?
I'm telling you, look it up.
This is happening.
What temperature would you like?
I'm like, what temperature?
What do you mean, what temperature?
It must be something...
I'm telling you, this is new.
This is very annoying.
Thank you.
I knew you'd think it was annoying.
I wouldn't mind bloody.
Well, I'm always...
As long as it's cooked on the outside, I mean, it's safe.
Well, they're coming back...
Except with hamburger, you have to be careful.
They expect you to answer medium or rare or medium-rare.
But when you say temperature, I'm going to give you the freaking temperature.
152 degrees.
Yeah, I want it exactly 143.
And I want a thermometer sticking out of it.
I don't want it at 142.
I want it at 143, not 144.
And then you've got to bring a little pocket thermometer with you.
Yeah.
And then pull out your pocket thermometer and say, and I'm checking it so it better be right.
Yes.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Fuck them.
That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard.
Yeah, well, get ready for it because it seems to be like the new culinary thing.
You'll be hearing more of it.
You know, I don't know if they have these in Texas.
I know they have them in Southern California.
They definitely have them in Portland.
And they have them around here.
They have some permanent places in San Francisco.
But on Wednesdays in the nearby town of El Cerrito, they have about, I think about...
25 or maybe more of these food trucks.
That gather in a, like a, they block off part of the city's streets and move these food trucks.
And they do this in Berkeley too, but not to this extreme.
This is huge.
And they surround an area with food trucks that sell all kinds of crazy stuff.
Korean barbecue, you know, besides the Mexican stuff, which is usually only one thing of that.
But there's a lot of barbecue, crazy desserts, weird French things.
They're all different.
And these trucks go from, it's like a bunch of gypsies going from place to place during the week where they sell these expensive little ditties.
And then in the middle of this huge area that they've cordoned off, there's tables with tablecloths all set along in there.
Then there's a bandstand.
Yeah, this is very, they have this in Austin kind of.
Yeah, they put up a bandstand and there's a band playing.
It's usually, but it's dinner music.
So it's like a giant restaurant.
Yeah, yeah.
And I'm looking at this thing, and it's getting bigger.
Yeah, no, we have this in Austin.
It's very popular, actually.
It's very popular.
The place is packed.
You bring your own booze, or you can go to a bar nearby.
Yeah, if there's one.
I wonder if this is taking place across the world.
I saw this first.
Actually, Mickey told me about it.
When we first moved to Austin two years ago, she went ahead because she had to work out some paint with the painters of the house we were going to move into.
And she went alone and a couple of No Agenda producers said, well, why don't we take you out to dinner?
We'll hang with you.
And then she got in and she was staying with a friend.
And then they said, okay, let's go.
We'll meet you at the food trucks.
And Mickey's like...
What?
You're taking me to a food truck for dinner?
I am Miss Mickey!
What do you think you're doing?
I shall not eat at a food truck!
And she said it was great, because we have this area here where all the food trucks are, and actually there's a couple of places that are bars where you sit outside, and so you get your drinks at the bar, and then you go and get your food from any food truck you want, and they have the facility for you to eat.
So it's a very hip thing.
So, um...
There you go.
I look at the food trucks, and of course, and this is very popular around here.
Of course, Berkeley.
Yes, of course.
Berkeley, El Cerrito's got...
San Francisco's got a spot over by Costco where they have...
And I talked to these guys that have this bunch of about maybe 10 to 15 food trucks in this little lot.
And I talked to the guys, and they rotate these food trucks.
It's run by some guy, and the food trucks, every day, it's different food trucks.
So these food trucks are itinerant.
They're all over the place.
Right.
All I think every time I see it, I know that some of these little ditties that they sell are kind of expensive, but overall it's not like going to a restaurant.
This is the depression.
Yes.
If anybody thinks food trucks are anything other than the symbol of the depression, they're nuts.
That's exactly what this is.
This is the depression.
That's the model.
Food truck equal depression.
I agree.
Okay.
I agree.
It gets people the ability to go out.
It's really pleasant.
The weather's been really good, so you can go out and sit outside.
There's not a lot of bugs, and you can have a meal cheap.
They're not cheap.
Some of these things are eight, nine bucks, but it's still cheaper than a restaurant, which is pretty expensive.
Anyway, whenever someone asks me about what temperature I'd like my meat, I'm going to give it to them in Celsius.
Which is conveniently 152 degrees Fahrenheit is 66.66 degrees Celsius.
I'd like my meat at 66 degrees Celsius.
Exactly.
Exactly.
I shall measure it when you come back.
Yeah, no, I'm going to pull that.
I'm going to bring the little, I have one of those really small meat tomometer.
Seriously.
I love that.
I'm going to put it in my jacket when I go to a restaurant.
If it ever comes up, I'm pulling out the tomometer.
You watch, it'll happen to you.
I'm sure this has got to spread to San Francisco.
This is great.
Alright, let's get a little quick update here.
Toure, who is on the MSNBCs, Toure is a music journalist.
I think he wrote some entry about some hip-hop or reggae stuff.
And now, of course, he's an expert on all things in the world, including Africa, including Kenya.
And, of course, he's going to give us, he's going to tell us a little geography refresher as to where Kenya is.
McConnell calling in on his cell phone from Nairobi, Kenya.
Sorry if that was hard to hear.
We're doing the best we can to get actual information from on the ground.
Tristan, stay safe.
Here's your Monday geography refresher.
Kenya is located on the northern coast of Africa, right next door to Somalia, where Al-Shabaab...
Oh, Ture.
Uh, no, I'm sorry.
It's on the east coast of Africa.
It's nowhere near the northern coast with your geography refresher, you idiot!
Didn't he have a map in front of him?
No, he's just reading the prompter like everybody else.
Oh.
Total moron.
All right, here's...
Well, we're on Africa.
Just where we're talking about that a little bit.
I'm sticking.
I'm sticking.
I got two clips.
But the first one is, I thought this was odd.
And you've heard it.
Nobody points out how kind of weird this was.
The Kenya president makes the comments about how they beat off the rebels.
Ladies and gentlemen, as I had vowed earlier, we have ashamed and defeated our attackers.
Yes, ashamed.
You have to ashamed?
Ashamed.
You have to ashamed them?
I mean, this is like, what, do you want to start trouble?
We have not only beaten them, but we have made, you know, it's like some sort of weird insult from a Monty Python skit.
We have shamed them.
They're losers.
We beat these losers up.
He actually says ashamed, doesn't he?
Yeah, he says ashamed, but I think that's just bad English.
No, I think it's actually...
Okay, he ashamed them.
Yes.
Yeah, this whole thing, if you look at the timeline, and of course, there's a lot of UK-type stuff in here, which is completely annoying.
Like two or three weeks ago, in the UK press, and there's a pretty cool timeline that one of our producers put together, He has this, let me see, I don't know if it has an easy URL, but it's some kind of system.
The whole thing doesn't work properly, but the idea is you load a whole bunch of stories, zilpod.org, whatever this is, you load a whole bunch of stories into it, and it will then put those stories in order of appearance on a timeline, and And he did that with what he found regarding Nairobi, Kenya, and then ultimately the Westgate attack.
And you see things ramping up.
You see stories about the White Widow, which now, of course, she apparently was one of the terrorists here in the mall.
The White Widow is the widow of one of the 7-7 bombers in the UK, if you can make it any crazier.
This is when the Al-Shabaab Twitter feed appears.
Because remember, the only claim that Al-Shabaab has done this has come through on Twitter.
This is what journalism has now resorted to, is when someone says, I'm Al-Shabaab on Twitter, and we did this, then all of a sudden that's fact.
It's true.
So there are a lot of stories.
Here we go.
More about the White Widow.
And that just keeps going.
And then, of course, the ICC, the International Criminal Court stuff, crops up.
And then, boom, this happens.
And then there's some SAS, Secret Service guy, who saves 100 people.
This has all the hallmarks of a strategy of tension, if anything.
And to blame it, to bring some religion into it, if you couldn't answer, if you couldn't recite the Koran, if you didn't know Muhammad's mom, Amina, if you didn't know her name, then you'd get killed.
And of course, it wasn't just a shopping center, as it's known, in Nairobi.
We have producers on the scene.
No, no, it's now called a mall.
In Nairobi, Kenya.
U.S. officials, meanwhile, can't confirm al-Shabaab's claim that three Americans actually took part in the Kenya mall attack.
The FBI is investigating.
The White House acknowledging it's been worried about al-Shabaab's efforts to recruit right here in the United States, particularly in the Minneapolis-St.
Paul area.
So this is really nice.
Now we have malls in the vernacular, in the vocabulary.
And Minneapolis being recruited here at home.
Of course, that will turn into lone wolves.
And I'm thinking Black Friday this year, which is the Friday after Thanksgiving, the biggest shopping day of the year.
I'm thinking we will have metal detectors and perhaps a few surplus body scanners at your local mall because we're now being frightened into believing that this can happen anywhere with no apparent reason.
Or strategy, or discussion, or document.
What happened to the good old-fashioned hijackings?
Where they get some people in a mall, you hijack them, you have demands.
No demands.
Release our people.
There's no demands anymore.
Think about it.
This changed after 9-11.
This changed.
Actually, Scahill had a...
I wish I would have clipped it.
Scahill went on about this because he's really got this Al-Shabaab thing down.
And he discusses how they were just a bunch of losers until the CIA came into the area.
Oh, no.
There's CIA in the area?
No.
Yeah, apparently.
And they got all these heads of all these various clans to become assassins and start shooting people left and right.
And then this Al-Shabaab group, then they fought against that, and then one thing led to another, and this Al-Shabaab group kind of lingered, and then it kind of got some attention for itself because it was still fighting.
Well, but Al-Shabaab, I mean, let's really look at it.
Al-Shabaab was much, much bigger when they first started off.
You know, they could come in, you know, they were threatening to come in and kill a thousand people.
Now they're diminished to whatever this is.
Well, he says, and nobody else said this.
I couldn't find this anyplace else.
Except the Iranian girl knew about this, too.
They have splintered into two groups.
And the one group, which was the one that attacked them all, they actually just joined al-Qaeda, supposedly, which is some sort of a criminal organization, I would have to assume.
And they're the ones who killed the American.
That one guy who was an American who was the rapper.
Yes, the rap and jihadi.
The rap and jihadi?
They just shot him.
And they apparently also killed the white widow, but now she's back.
Well, the white widow, I didn't know that she was killed, but whatever the case is.
But at the same time, they were supposed to have killed the jihadi rapper.
Well, the jihadi rapper apparently is dead, which I think is a plus.
Anyway, so there's a bunch of stuff, and he's got a pretty good story to tell about this, but it was just, you know, it was like, it would have been half the show.
This guy needs to get his little rap down so it's a little tighter.
Yeah, it's got to be tighter.
A couple of things happening here.
First of all, Sir Jeff Smith, he was in Nairobi not long ago.
He did a tour.
And by the way, he said, just like you said, John, Nairobi, Nairobi.
Everyone gets robbed the minute you walk in there.
He got robbed.
Everyone robs.
They all get robbed.
He thought it was interesting.
The Chinese presence was interesting.
And I have a couple stories there.
And, of course, he sent us an In the Morning in Swahili.
Asuburhi!
Asuburhi, everybody, in Somalia.
In Kenya.
I do have a little short beginning clip that describes the CIA involvement in Nairobi.
I'm sorry, in Kenya.
I mean in Somalia.
In Africa.
Just say Africa.
Funny Al-Shabaab origin story is worth listening to.
In the early 2000s, the Bush administration made a disastrous decision to put all of these warlords on the CIA payroll.
And they came up with this name called the Alliance for the Restoration of Peace and Counterterrorism.
And I tracked down some of these warlords when I was in Somalia and in Kenya.
And they basically had them acting as an assassination squad.
Most Somalia experts said that there were no more than a dozen al-Qaeda-connected individuals in Somalia right after 9-11.
And so the CIA hires these warlords ostensibly to go and hunt these people down.
Well, they end up murdering vast numbers of people who were imams or religious scholars.
And in some cases, I was told that they would literally chop people's heads off and then bring them to their American liaison and say, this is so-and-so, and I've killed him.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's a scene.
Hey, who is it?
He's outside.
He wants to talk to you.
Oh, okay.
Bring him in.
He brings in a box.
His head.
Pulls out his head.
For the CIA, no less.
Great.
Well, if you really want to...
I mean, this will help.
Here's a visual aid for you.
The senator of Nairobi, a guy named Mike Sonko, That's not his...
His full name is Movie Gideon Kiyoko, Mike Sonko.
Just Google Mike Sonko, S-O-N-K-O. Now, this is the senator.
The guy's got, like, hip-hop chains, he's got shades on, he's wearing earrings.
His last name, Sonko, apparently is Swahili, or Sheng for rich person.
So he's called Mike Richperson.
He walks around Nairobi with his hip-hop gear on.
Just to give you a little idea of what's going on in Nairobi or Kenya, obviously.
Here are some China links, which I think are very interesting.
First of all, the airport burned down not too long ago, and the Chinese came in, rebuilt the terminal within three weeks after the fire.
They're fast.
Yeah.
Effectively taken over it.
The Kenyan government has secured a $635 million loan From three banks, you can only guess what their origin is, to rebuild the entire airport.
And simultaneously, China has now become, with a guarantee of $3.7 billion, Kenya's largest bilateral lender.
So it's obvious what's happening here.
The Chinas are in and they have to be moved out.
This is a strategically great place.
Kenya is so high now on the list of oil producers because of oil that was found just a couple years ago.
Now they've got all the water.
But the Chinese are there.
They have to go.
They have to go.
We have to move in.
We need our consultants, our advisors.
They have to be on the ground.
So you can just watch for this to happen.
We need...
Oh, we need...
Yeah, we have to have people there to protect the poor people.
And then, of course, we'll be right near Somalia, which is one of the West Clark seven countries.
Well, that's...
Yeah, that makes nothing but sense.
And...
What did I have?
Well, I don't know if you have any more on this.
They've got the origin story.
There's a guy who didn't bring up much of this.
You can play this Atlantic Council, which is like the big TTIP operation.
They seem to be behind it in some funny way.
They have all these spokespeople.
This guy, Pham, came on the news hour, I believe.
And he's yacked about the Al-Shabaab at the mall kind of thing.
It might be interesting.
An actual political program, a goal to an attack like this.
You kill more than 50, more than 60 civilians, but to what end?
They can't topple the Canadian state, for instance.
Thank you.
No, but I think what they're hoping to do is to put their imprint.
They became an al-Qaeda affiliate a little over a year ago.
What's the franchise fee for that?
But now they've hit it big.
And this attack actually shows a much greater tactical and operational sophistication than Shabab has ever shown before.
I don't think so.
To be able to coordinate multiple armed fighters going into a shopping mall at various levels within that mall, attacking.
This required reconnaissance weeks, if not months beforehand.
It requires a support network operational in Kenya, which needs to be a concern to Kenyan authorities now.
And neighboring countries need to ask themselves whether they may be unwittingly hosting a similar network, a sleeper cell.
And all these are serious questions that now need to be addressed.
Yeah, but this guy is full of crap because he's not really answering the question.
It's to what end?
Why are they doing this?
Yeah, they never answered the question.
Because it is not ideological.
This is not blowback.
This is just strategy of tension for other douchebags to come in and boss everybody around.
So let's say we have a mall here, and we're going to put up all the metal detectors and put guards at the doors.
By the way, Minneapolis, where these al-Shabaabians are from, has the Mall of America, the largest mall in the country.
I've been to that mall.
I've been to that mall.
And here's something that's interesting.
They have a roller coaster in the mall.
Yes, they do.
What's interesting about that, there's a bigger mall I think in Edmonton, which I've been to too, but the Mall of America is, the floors are slippery.
So if you want to run, it's almost impossible.
Yeah, and if you're bleeding on it, it's easy to wipe up.
So they block off, let's say they block off four doors, because the problem with malls is that they're not like little, it's not like Paris, you know, where you go down the street and around the corner and it's curved and you can defend yourself and all the rest.
Mall, you're sitting ducks if you're in one of these big malls.
All you have to do is block the doors so you can't get out.
So you got the metal detector in front.
So the mob of guys comes in to shoot everyone.
And the metal detector guys and a couple of security guards.
So what would prevent them from just shooting these people, shooting the metal detector guy and kicking the metal detector and knocking it over?
And then just going in and shooting everybody.
Is there some reason that that can't be done?
No, it can be done, but it's not going to happen.
There will not be any attack on our malls because we are just going to be in a perpetual state of fear about it happening.
You don't actually have to do anything.
I agree with that.
But it seems stupid.
To waste a good opportunity?
It's never a stupid waste of good opportunity just to make people miserable.
Making people miserable.
Here is what you'll be dealing with for the rest of your life.
Lockdown.
Lockdown.
You're all going to be on lockdown.
Oh, I'm on lockdown.
I got a funny clip.
Actually, Amy...
On Democracy Now!
made this comment, deg beat nation, I just thought, which leads into a little Obama's pitch.
Play that.
Hold on, what am I looking at here?
Tell me she doesn't say deg.
It's the first one.
Okay.
Speaking of Missouri, after Friday's House vote, President Obama said the U.S. risks becoming a deg beat nation.
Yeah, she says it.
It's just like climate change.
She says degbeat.
Because she can't actually say the words.
I like when she tries to say million.
She can't say million.
She says million.
It's really hilarious.
Okay.
So Obama has this commentary.
I clipped the pauses out.
Obama and the degbeat nation.
This is the United States of America.
We're not some banana republic.
This is not a deadbeat nation.
We don't run out on our tab.
We're the world's bedrock investment.
The entire world looks to us to make sure the world economy is stable.
We can't just not pay our bills.
And even threatening something like that is the height of irresponsibility.
So, what I've said is, I will not negotiate over the full faith and credit of the United States.
Ah, you're saying it again.
You know what that means.
It's the trillion dollar bill.
He loves to say that.
He's going to do it.
He's going to overrule 14th Amendment stuff.
No, was it Article 2?
Article 2, I think, maybe.
Or 4.
He's going to overrule.
And, by the way, he's right.
He's right.
But we can't be a deadbeat nation?
We can't run out on our bill?
You can't run out on your bill?
We can't stiff the waiter?
No tipping.
Samuel Jackson said something very funny.
I'm trying to see if I can find it.
Here it is.
He was interviewed for Playboy magazine, which of course I read for the articles.
And is that thing still being printed?
Here's the quote.
He says, President Obama...
He says...
He's talking about...
He wants the president to be more presidential.
What does that mean?
Well, he says, President Obama and other highly educated Americans constantly dropping GS off the ends of words.
He was complaining about the president's language.
Oh, yeah.
He's always...
Which you kind of heard here.
He did that with one of the earlier clips.
Well, you kind of heard here, though, where he's like, we didn't run out on the bill.
And Jackson says, well, we know it ain't because of his blackness.
Stop trying to relate.
Be a leader.
Be effing presidential.
So he knows.
Samuel Jackson, I've got to hand it to him.
You know, he'll be doing more snake movies on a plane with that kind of talk.
You're not going to do anything good, dude.
No, he's got plenty of money.
He's not worried.
He'll be sent to the dungeon of Hollywood.
So one of the guys of the future that we have to be on the lookout for, he showed up.
We had our America's Cup race here in San Francisco.
Oh, yes, yes.
And Americans won after being down 8-1.
They ripped off a bunch of victories and beat the Kiwis.
So they had a little ceremony at the end, and they announced that the mayor is going to be there, going to come out and congratulate him, and there's also going to be some protocol woman and Gavin Newsom, the lieutenant governor.
And Gavin Newsom's the guy to keep an eye on because he is a political...
He's just the worst kind of political guy I've ever run into.
I mean, he just wants to be president of the United States, and so he can get laid.
He's the one who was...
He was actually married to, what's her name, the leggy girl on The Five for a long time.
Yeah, but he screwed around with her.
He screwed around and cheated.
Oh, yeah, that's all he does.
Yeah, cheater.
Yeah.
So instead of the mayor coming out and then maybe handing it over, you have to see this.
Newsom runs onto the state, grabs the mic, and takes over the place.
Oh, boy.
So it's all about him.
Oh, boy.
In the process, he makes this funny little stupid commentary about there's an old saying in San Francisco.
And I want you to listen to this and tell me if you've ever heard this old saying anywhere.
where I'm looking for something that says old saying It should say Gavin Newsom, which was the reason I cued it down.
No, no, no.
I don't have a Gavin Newsom.
Yeah, you do.
It's right after the Funny Al-Shabaab origin story.
I go from Funny Al-Shabaab to Henry Gets Emmy.
Henry?
That's way down the list.
You must re-sort.
No.
Hold on a second.
You don't have the Guardian Editor in NSA? No.
What is this?
Yeah, I don't know.
Let me see what's going on.
This is disturbing.
You should have Guardian Editor NSA, Guardian Editor on not outing people, and this was in Ask Adam.
Hold on.
Let me see if somehow I didn't get your clips.
I don't know what's happening.
Something bad.
I did such a nice lead-in.
Well, hold on.
Mayor of San Francisco, Mayor Ed Lee, and the Lieutenant Governor of California, Gavin Newsom, to the main stage.
Joining them, Charlotte Schultz, the Chief of Protocol for San Francisco.
What?
How you all feeling?
There's an old saying in San Francisco that you don't want to be the best of the best.
You want to be the only one that does what you do.
That's Team USA. And I love that it's Team USA. America!
What does that even mean?
And it's not an old saying in San Francisco.
I've tried to find it.
It's bullcrap.
No one talks like that.
No one says these things at all.
The guy's an idiot.
That's pretty funny, though.
I don't know.
What do you got?
I got a bunch of other things.
Well, I think we should save some stuff for Sunday.
There's a lot to go over.
Well, let's get this out of the way.
This is the Google clip.
Jets at Google.
Oh, yeah.
We've had this in the show notes for the past three episodes, but haven't discussed it.
They're the billionaires next door, and their Silicon Valley lifestyle is being fueled by private jets.
But are Google executives taking advantage of taxpayers' money?
The investigative unit has been on this story for more than a year.
Google's founders and principal owners are parking their private planes on publicly owned land at Moffett Field.
NBC's Stephen Stock first broke the story last year, and tonight has the new developments, and how much money is this costing taxpayers?
A lot of money, Raj and Jessica.
By now, just about everyone has heard of the deal between H-211, the founders of Google, and NASA Ames at Moffett Field.
A deal that allows them to keep up to seven private airplanes and two helicopters there under a company they called H-211.
Tonight, for the first time, we take you inside that relationship and we piece together exactly how much you are subsidizing Google's founders to travel all over the world.
Yeah, just some distraction.
Yeah, it's a distraction, but it's interesting because I found it curious that, I mean, there's millions of dollars, but this guy, this is a long story, the guy goes in and he has all the flight plans, so they're going all over the place.
It's pretty amazing.
Yeah, and they're shipping Charlie Rose around, and they're flying everybody.
Yeah, they're doing all this stuff.
This is stuff you do.
Yeah.
But the thing that...
I wonder if I was going to ask you about this.
What do you think of this?
Because you remember when these...
A lot of these guys, they get these jets, especially in the early days.
Like Hugh Hefner had a Playboy jet.
Oh, I remember it, yeah.
It was a 727.
It was painted black and it had the Bunny logo.
Yeah, yeah.
And a lot of these guys, General Electric has some jets and they have their logo on it.
The Google jets are plain Jane.
They say nothing.
They're ashamed that they own these jets or something.
And they're not leasing these.
It's not like part of a lease operation.
I can see if you are doing jet sharing with your other rich buddies.
Yeah, you don't have your logo on there necessarily.
But why don't they put the Google line...
Are they...
When I see this kind of thing, there's no Google anything on these jets.
I think it's just they're trying to put one over on the public.
So the reason why, I believe, and this is all Eric Schmidt's doing, when Eric Schmidt came in, he realized that in order to not have these Sergei and Larry dudes ruin everything, he had to manhandle them and manage them into understanding how to underplay Your wealth and your riches, because Google, particularly the founders, is phenomenally wealthy.
Just so much money.
Just making it rain.
Just going home and just throwing hundreds in the air for themselves.
But in public, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Low key downplay, no flash, no snazzy gear, no snazzy clothes, no parties, none of that.
You cannot find those types of violations of ethics like you find...
And by the way, Apple, I think, was similar.
That will change, too.
But like Facebook, you know, and like anything that Sean Parker's in.
I think this was Eric Schmidt saying, no, shut up.
It's a reasonable explanation.
And when you're parking at Moffat Field, which is very convenient for them, because I know a lot of these Silicon Valley guys, investors in some of my companies, that's worth nothing, who have private plans, and they have to drive for 45 minutes.
Yeah, either the SFO to the signature line or to San Jose.
Yeah, and they're driving 45 minutes to get to some executive airfield, and they, you know, with these Google guys, they have the helicopter pick them up at Google, and then they, you know, like three minutes.
Yeah, well, five minutes.
They're at Moffat Field into the jet, and you know what?
It's worth not having the logo on the plane.
It's worth it.
Yeah, it's fairly convenient.
I think they're kicking them out, though, because the public's getting a little irked by it.
Oh, no, of course they are.
It's tens of millions of dollars.
What happens is they get government fuel.
Subsidized fuel.
I know, I know.
And apparently, there's one story going around that there are also these guys.
I knew guys that would like this.
Years ago, when I was an air pollution inspector, there used to be a guy named Crowley who owned the Red Stack tugboat line, and he did this.
And everyone was always bitching about it.
Yeah.
They have untaxed fuel, gasoline.
They drive their cars in there, and then they put the cheap gasoline, which is a buck something, a gallon without all the taxes, and they just fill up.
Yeah, fill it up.
Fill her up.
We'll grab gasoline, and these guys, if you have access to this tax-free gas, you find some scam way to load up on it.
In Europe...
I mean, these are, we're talking billionaires.
Yeah.
No, I know.
Of course.
You know, it's expensive, though.
You're flying one of those jets around, that's $6,000, $7,000 an hour.
Yeah, they put a lot of numbers up.
In Europe, we used to drive around on red diesel.
You know red diesel?
No, I don't know red diesel.
Okay, so you have diesel that has no taxes on it or different taxation structure for farm equipment than for automobiles.
And what they do is they color the farm diesel red, So that if you are pulled over and you're checked and you're driving in your car on the road with a red diesel, you get a huge fine.
But of course, it doesn't happen often that people are pulling over.
Who checks?
Yeah, well, no.
But they normally would just check the poor farmer who puts it in his old Mercedes to drive around, to drive to church or whatever.
But I used to have it exclusively.
Come on.
It was like a quarter of the price.
The red diesel.
They still do that, the red diesel.
I would like to put an entry into the book before we go, John, if that's okay.
Yeah.
Did you bring the book?
I have the book right here, and listen, I'm going to slam it shut.
Watch.
Hear that?
In the Federal Register, this is by presidential proclamation, the authority vested in him as president by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, including the Federal Vacancies Reform Act of 1998 as amended.
The president hereby orders the order of succession...
Designation of officers of the Office of the Director of National Intelligence to act as Director of National Intelligence.
In other words, should the Director of National Intelligence, the DNI, and I believe that is James Clapper?
Indeed.
Should he become unable to perform his duty as Director of National Intelligence, there is now an order of people to assume the position.
Why?
Just in case.
But it says...
The following official of the Office of the National Director of National Intelligence shall act as and perform the functions and duties of the Director of National Intelligence during any period in which the DNI and the Principal Deputy Director of the National Intelligence have died, resigned, or otherwise become unable to perform the functions and duties of the DNI. Oh, I'm sorry, Clapper.
And then the Deputy Director of National Intelligence for Intelligence Integration takes over, which is not who you would expect it to be.
And then it's the Director of National Counterterrorism Center before the National Counterintelligence Executive, and then finally the Inspector General of the Intelligence Community.
So it's not like the Deputy Director...
Of National Intelligence.
No, it's the Deputy Director of National Intelligence for Intelligence Integration, which I think is a spot close.
That's Robert Cardillo currently, I believe.
He is a little closer, perhaps, to the regime.
He's been around for a while.
He served as Deputy Director for Analysis.
But whenever you get these things, when the President says, hey, in the case you die, here's who's going to follow you up.
I think it's worthy of a Red Book entry that Clapper is not long for this position or perhaps universe.
Well, he would quit.
Yeah.
Before he gets...
Anybody would do anything to him, I'm sure of it.
Boston Breaks?
I think they would probably...
Remember, this is the guy who...
Remember on the TV show, he didn't even know what had happened that morning?
Yeah, I love that.
That's still one of our best clips.
Was that the 7-7 bombing?
I can't even remember what it was.
Yeah, some big bombing and they brought it up...
It was the subway stuff in London.
Was it the subway stuff or was it the...
I think it was the subway stuff.
No, I think it was the liquid gang, the liquid drinks gang.
Whatever it was, it was all over the place.
Everyone knew about it, we knew about it, and he didn't.
Yeah, it was pretty...
Huh?
What happened?
It was pretty sad is what it was.
I don't know.
What?
I don't know.
We're not listening to Americans.
This guy has to go, John.
He has to go.
I think he doesn't want to go.
This is why the president's like, look, dude.
Oh, maybe this was a subtle hint.
Yes, dude, look, if you die, you know, you know, you know.
But you could resign.
Maybe all it was was a message.
It just means nothing.
It could mean messaging.
Yeah.
And with Al Jazeera America, which I still do not have on my cable system.
They don't have streaming video, but people send me clips from time to time.
It feels like now more than ever, Russia today needs our help.
Oh, they've needed our help.
No, no, no.
You think it's worsening?
Because I've been watching.
I have proof.
I have proof.
So they have this new...
They have kind of like a babushka chick.
No, they didn't put a book.
I'm talking like a television producer here.
No, she's got a real heavy Russian accent.
And she throws to this package, like a promo, about Snowden, which of course is still one of Russia's primary Cold War tactics to use, like neener, neener, Snowden's with us.
Yeah.
Which we've kind of forgotten.
So that still needs to be pushed into everyone's face, particularly Obama's face.
But the package, they got this British guy...
Someone said, hey, we can really sex it up a bit.
He tried to do this promo, but he's got Echo on it, and he's doing how on Top 40 Radio you'll hear, thousands of dollars of prizes!
Thousands of dollars of prizes!
You know that one where they do that?
Yeah, I know that one.
The nasal voice.
He's doing all that in this promo.
Listen.
And forced him to flee his homeland.
Thrown into a sea of uncertainty, Snowden has temporarily anchored himself here in Russia, which is now his place of refuge.
So this is the kind of babushka chick.
Now wait for the promo.
And also sort of a prison.
Hit it!
A stranger in Moscow.
He says he never planned to come.
Once a servant to the world's biggest power, he's now running from it after leaking some of his big secrets.
Edward Snowden.
A hero to some.
Do you hear this echo?
Edward Snowden.
This is produced in Mexico City.
Traitor to others.
A man with no passport and nowhere to return to.
Will Russia become his new home?
Or does he feel it's a prison?
Will Russia become his new home?
I cannot wait to escape.
Does he still believe his sacrifice was worth the price?
Now we're talking about Edward Snowden.
I could sit at home and do promos like that all day for these guys.
You know, it's funny because the...
When I was at CNET, when they were doing television, and they had a bunch of network guys, because Kevin Wendell was a Hollywood type and he knew all these guys.
So it was a bunch of pros.
And they would make this reference to certain kinds of production values, and the reference was simple.
It was Russian TV. Well, there you go.
That's it.
It's totally Russian.
So it's natural for them, because this is Russian TV, to do slipshod production.
And this sounds like just the worst.
But the whole doubling is like, Edward Snowden, this Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, with 30 Nitro Burning Funny Cars.
If you're going to go that route, we might as well play the Maury clip.
This is what people in America listen to.
Everyone, this is Nicky.
Welcome Nicky to the show.
Nikki says that she was madly in love with a guy named Alonzo.
No.
No, I can't.
I can't do it.
I can't.
I can't.
Don't make me do it, John.
Please.
Don't make me do it.
Please.
Let's go to Obama.
We actually have a Clinton clip, too, but we can get rid of that.
Actually, no, let's go skip to the Ask Adam segment of the show.
Oh, do you want me to do a jingle?
Yeah.
Yeah, I think I should.
Hold on a second.
I'm done after this.
Yeah, me too.
It's been a tough one.
Ask Adam.
Ask Adam.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay, this is the Guardian editor.
He's talking about the NSA and all the rest.
And now here's their talking about how they worked with the intelligence agencies about one thing or another.
And this is the Guardian editor.
You should see the clip.
It's Ask Adam, play it.
And I know that you had numerous conversations with, certainly with British intelligence subsequently, but before the first articles came out, was there any contact with American intelligence or British intelligence on your part or warned them of what was coming?
Well the first four stories were all NSA rather than GCHQ and they were all edited out of New York and we were in touch with the agencies via the White House and we warned them of what we were going to publish and we had sometimes helpful dialogue,
sometimes robust dialogue about what we were going to do but It was important for me that we gave them the chance to respond and to make plain any concerns that they had about any particular things.
And was there any effort on their part to dissuade you from publication?
Yeah, they told us why they thought we shouldn't publish some things.
There were one or two things that were helpful because we didn't want to go into this behaving irresponsibly or to put agents with danger or operations.
And so I think it was important to have those conversations.
And Edward Snowden also made that a requirement, isn't that true, that people not be exposed?
Yes, yes.
He said, look, you will have to form your own judgment, but I would like you to behave responsibly and, as you say, not expose agents or ongoing sensitive operations, for instance, in Afghanistan or Iraq.
Oh, behaving responsibly is the media, which is, I'm thinking, well...
What he said, don't expose agents.
Yeah, of the CIA who are giving this...
Is that the Ask Adam?
No, the Ask Adam is this behaving responsibly.
The Ask Adam thing is this...
When it suits the government, and I want to just point out Valerie Plam and Dick Cheney exposing an agent to the public, how come it's okay for the government to do it when it suits them, when they feel like it?
But the news media, which is protected by law, at least the American one is, it's not okay.
Why is it okay for the government to blow the covers of people, but it's not okay for us responsible journalists?
Why?
Give me an explanation how this works.
What am I thinking here?
It's okay as long as you aren't accused of kiddie porn.
Oh, okay.
Because that's where I've got to take it.
Anyway, I just found it kind of interesting.
And of course, I don't think they were going to bust the CIA with any of this information.
No.
Clearly the CIA provided it, at least according to the no agenda thinking.
Yes, to...
It's the only thing that makes sense.
Yeah, and this is...
To humiliate the NSA, which is...
The humiliation extended right down to Brazil, where the woman told Obama to shove his special event for Brazil, which is...
Which is all the more reason that it's great that we had this little Kenyan thing pop up.
Just to finalize, let me say this.
Earlier in the week, I was asked to assist someone in determining the quality of some medical marijuana.
And I am, of course, an expert in the field.
And I asserted that this was indeed valid product.
However, I got really baked, and at a certain point, I'm just thinking, my God, if you really step back and you look at what is being done with us through this collaboration of politics and particularly the news media, but it's kind of all media in general, if you looked at any of the new television series, this thing that was hyped with James Spader, Blacklist, total police state promotion bullshit.
We are being whipped around like just up and down.
We really are being oscillated almost.
It's very, very unhealthy what is happening to people.
And maybe, obviously, it was because of my testing, my laboratory and testing that I did, that I just realized how bad it really is, John.
And shows like the No Agenda show really do help people in just clearing their heads a little bit.
Yeah, no, I think so.
It helps me.
Oh yeah, it helps me too, but for that one moment I kind of slipped and I was like, oh my god, look at all this stuff that's happened just like the past year.
I mean, from Fast and Furious unresolved to...
I mean, everything is unresolved, by the way.
Everything is unresolved.
Right.
That remains unresolved forever.
It remains unresolved.
And they just bring it back.
And then, you know, these hijackings and terrorism that make no sense.
There's no hostages, no demands.
It's just people blowing stuff up.
I mean, please, this is not how normal people actually demonstrate.
This is how you are manipulated.
Right?
Into believing things.
So you were actually asked to test the marijuana or it wasn't here?
Would you like a hit?
No, no.
I was asked to test it for someone who needed to use it for pain management reasons.
And they wanted to know...
And what did they expect you to say?
Well, no.
They wanted to know if...
Couldn't they smoke it themselves and determine the quality?
No, these are a completely inexperienced user.
Like, no experience.
So the question was...
Did you help them dose it a little bit?
Yes.
Because it probably sounds like it was powerful.
Yes.
The only thing I needed to check was that it didn't make...
Today's weed, you can smoke weed and you go wacky in like one hit.
You're just like, holy crap, what happened?
Like I get hit by a truck.
That is not what someone who's using medical marijuana needs.
They need to have...
Something that you take one hit and it numbs your body and you can dose more if you want, but not one hit and I'm tripping.
And the reason I said, I'll test it for you because I know what it is.
And if I go wacky, at least I'll know what it is and I won't freak out.
Oh, well, you did a service.
No, it's absolutely a service.
But of course, then...
Did you get paid for this service?
You sound like you wasted a day.
I think 36 hours.
Yeah.
No.
I didn't get paid for the service.
I do this for friends.
But it was like, wow.
And I don't really like it anymore.
I was a pothead for a decade.
And I don't really like the high, which is not a high.
It's a low, really.
It's just not for me.
But I, particularly not the medical marijuana because it's really, it really helps people manage pain because you relax, you know, just everything relaxes unlike, you know, Vicodin or all this other crap which makes your brain think you don't have any pain.
So I'm all for the magic plant.
I'm all for it.
My defenses went down.
I think I got a little paranoid.
Maybe that's what it is.
I got a little like, oh man, what's going on?
And then I was marking up the PDFs and stuff.
I'm sure that was entertaining.
Play the clip pre-crime part one so we can just get out with something interesting.
Oh, sorry, I didn't mean to bore you.
And then high-tech crime-fighting, how South Bay Police Department plans to pinpoint crime before it happens.
Yes, and does part two go along with that?
A little bit.
It will essentially predict where the most likely occurrence will occur, and then we deploy our resources as appropriate.
The chief admits the idea will take some getting used to.
It feels strange in a certain sense, but, you know, we need to leverage technology to become better at what we're doing.
PredPol says the Santa Cruz and Los Angeles Police Department signed on and are now seeing reductions in property crimes.
The technology takes crime mapping to another level.
It analyzes crime data and then adds in other factors that lead to the prediction.
Weber says while it sounds too good to be true, he supports the effort.
No, that's enough.
This is bull crap.
Yeah, no, this is all data.
It's all the big data that's going to save us, and it's all just another way of soaking up your government money, your resources, your taxes.
To educate your kids with iPads.
The amount of money that we're squandering in a down economy is astonishing to me.
And we're in a depression because...
It's a cycle.
Food trucks.
Food trucks.
No, that's the indicator.
That's just proof.
Fact.
It's fact proof.
Food trucks equals depression.
Every down cycle has these little indicators.
The food truck thing is a ridiculous phenomenon.
It's out of control.
Fact.
All right, everybody.
Tons of stuff to talk to you about on Sunday.
As I see, I only got through half of the stuff that I had planned for today.
Gun control.
Gun control, no.
Clinton on PBS. Yes, Media Shield Law.
Trazodone.
More China stuff.
Trazodone.
What's Trazodone?
You'll have to tune in Sunday.
We'll start looking it up now.
No, do not look it up.
Coming to you from the capital of the Drone Star State in the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
And coming to you from inside the Treza Dome in northern Silicon Valley, I'm John C. Demorak.
The Treza Dome.
We'll talk to you again on Sunday, right here on No Agenda.
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