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	I hate Tokyo.
	And the portions are so small.
	Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak.
	And Sunday, September 1st, 2013, it's time for your Gitmo Nation Media Assassination, episode 544.
	This is no agenda.
	Sniffing signatures of sarin here in the Travis Heights Hideout in the capital of the Drone Star State.
	We're Mofo, Musoko, Austin, Texas.
	In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley, we're sniffing nothing.
	I'm John C. Dvorak.
	It's Crackpot and Buzzkill.
	In the morning.
	I've never been a sniffer, really.
	I've never done the glue thing.
	I wouldn't do glue.
	It's not good for the brain.
	No, that's why I never did it.
	Yeah, it's like people who snuff, or where they go, huff, huff.
	Huffers, huffers.
	Toluene and some of these other aromatics are not, they're not healthy.
	They're not good for those types, or especially some of them are bad for the liver.
	I do remember when I was a kid, I once, we were on vacation, and I bought, it was raining, and so I think my parents let me buy like, you know, eight model airplanes that had kind of these smaller kits, like for two bucks a kit.
	Yeah, these are the plastic ones.
	Plastic ones, yeah.
	And I built all eight of them in one afternoon with the windows closed.
	Like, Mommy, it don't feel so good, Mommy.
	They feel a little nauseous.
	I remember my parents going, oh, the kid's stoned.
	And I was like, what are you talking about?
	Can you imagine if you're like six?
	Well, especially if you're painting, because there was this type of, I think it was called, I think the brand was Testers, and it was called Dope.
	Dope?
	Yeah, no, that's exactly what it was, Dope.
	I remember.
	Yeah, it was this paint that you used on mobile games.
	Yeah, aptly made.
	Yeah, aptly made.
	And man, that stuff just smelled beautiful.
	It was good.
	It was good stuff.
	Really had a nice aroma.
	Yeah.
	I always like the aromas of the engines, of the kind of fuel they use, which is mostly alcohol.
	I always thought that was the pleasant smell.
	So you're talking about...
	The flying ones.
	Remember, did you ever have one of those airplanes that you had on like two strings and you had a handle?
	Yeah, that's what I'm talking about.
	Yeah, exactly.
	It wasn't...
	No, it wasn't alcohol.
	It wasn't as easy as it looks, by the way, the flying ones.
	And this is in novice mode, which would be like the engine all the way back at little ratchets.
	And then so essentially you had this plastic handle with a string on each side.
	And if you moved your hand up, then that would move the aerolons up.
	And so the plane would go up, and if you moved it down, then it would crash and burn and create a hole.
	Which it did commonly.
	Like instantly.
	It was like, no worries, you can snap it right back together.
	Yeah.
	Mine was broken after one go.
	Yeah, boom.
	Wow, that's interesting.
	Did you do that with your kids, or did you do this yourself?
	No, when I was a kid we used to do that.
	Okay, so that carried over to when I was a kid, interestingly enough.
	I mean, there's still 10 years difference.
	Well, nowadays I don't see so much of it.
	I think nowadays it's all remote control.
	Yeah, remote control.
	And probably less engines, because that was kind of the thing you just bought.
	You go down to the toy store, now you need a license, and I'm sure the cops come if you're flying this thing around on the street.
	Yeah.
	Well, anyway, those little engines were cool.
	Yeah, they were.
	Anyway, so what do we got today?
	Any news?
	I didn't hear anything.
	Not much going on, unfortunately.
	I'm struggling to find anything.
	So I guess we can talk about Syria.
	Do we have to?
	Let me just kick it off with...
	Did you see this press TV report?
	No.
	All right, so the press TV is, of course, from the Iranians.
	And I guess, do they broadcast, are they on anywhere, or is it just all internet that we get them on?
	I've never seen them on anywhere except the internet.
	Yeah, and they do have English hosts, English speaking hosts.
	And this was the report.
	This kind of summed it all up.
	Well, in Syria, the foreign-backed insurgents have taken responsibility for last week's chemical attack, which the U.S. and its allies are blaming on the Syrian government.
	Militants in the Damascus suburb of Ghouta admitted to Dale Gavlak, a freelance AP journalist who broke the story for Mint Press News, that they received the chemical weapons from Saudi Arabia.
	The insurgents have also said that the casualties were the result of mishandling of the chemical ordinance, which happened because they were not properly trained how to handle such material.
	A few months ago, shocking footage posted on the internet showed insurgents testing chemical weapons on laboratory rabbits and making threats to use them against Syrians.
	Mohammed, Mohammed, you and your big feet again.
	You kicked that bottle over.
	I think there's merit to this story, by the way.
	I think there is, too.
	It makes a lot of sense.
	I'm a little too annoyed by the memes that we keep getting thrown at.
	Gassing their own people.
	Massacring their own people.
	How does this make any sense in a war scenario?
	What are we going to do?
	I don't know.
	There's some of our buddies over there, some of our soldiers.
	Let's gas them.
	Just for kicks, because we're sick.
	Even though I'm going to break my own rule, I found McCain, warmonger McCain, to be almost funny on Piers Morgan.
	Curiously, by the way, I think McCain, of all these guys, even though he's always presenting himself as some tough cookie, is maybe one of the funniest guys.
	He's got to be a great guy to go have a beer with.
	Yes, him and Rick Perry together.
	What a threesome we'd have.
	We'd swap dresses, the whole deal.
	It would be great.
	So here is a warmonger McCain on the Pierce Morgan show, which I know for a fact has less people watching than listening to this podcast.
	Yes, and all you do when you bring him on this show is getting a bigger audience.
	I know, but why can't we get McCain on this show?
	Would we do a guest if McCain came on the show for once and we break format?
	No, we're never going to do a guest.
	Okay, all right, good.
	But you can go interview him and then we can put some clips on the show.
	Everything's got to be meta.
	This would turn out bad if I interviewed him.
	But he's almost...
	Listen to his voice.
	I've never heard him this excited.
	It's like he's on amphetamines or something.
	It's really interesting.
	First, he's going to lay out the whole Middle East in 45 seconds.
	Well, first of all, we have watched Syria evolve into one of the great humanitarian tragedies in recent history.
	There is 100,000 dead.
	A million now children are refugees.
	The conflict has spread to Jordan, to Lebanon.
	Iraq is now in chaos.
	We're a resurrected al-Qaeda base.
	The Iranians are there.
	5,000 Hezbollah are fighting on the side of Bashar Assad.
	Daily flights of weapons fly in Iranian and Russian aircraft into Damascus in a very unfair fight.
	And now we've had numerous instances of the use of chemical weapons, the latest being the largest.
	Man, sounds like a good vacation destination, that whole Middle East.
	Yeah, sounds like a ball.
	Here he is with his voice just going out of control.
	You know, by the way, I'm going to stop you here for a second.
	You could have played that clip...
	Without ever mentioning Pierce Morgan, because you never brought him into the clip.
	You're right.
	You could assume he's on an anonymous talk show that I'm not going to talk about.
	You're right.
	I will send the check back to Jeff Zucker.
	I'm sorry.
	I'm being paid to promote CNN. Would you ignore the stacks of dead bodies without a mark on them?
	When I heard this, I'm like, would you ignore the stacks of dead bodies without a mark on them?
	Would you ignore the stacks of dead bodies without a mark on them?
	And he's trying to make it so ridiculous that he's laughing about it, but I'm not buying it.
	I think he's genuinely garnering some pleasure from this.
	He's like...
	He's all giddy.
	Would you ignore that it's already been established that as many as 10 times, at least, and many as 30, where chemical weapons have already been used?
	There's no doubt about that.
	No doubt about it.
	Is there any doubt in your mind?
	Can you be 100% sure, though, Senator?
	Absolutely.
	No, no.
	Absolutely.
	He did it for...
	Yeah, I couldn't tell if you were Piers Morgan or you were John.
	I know.
	I sound like Piers Morgan, unfortunately.
	I'm sorry.
	So, here's the thing.
	Now, he asserts that they've already been used, and there's 30 incidences or what.
	I don't know what the hell he's talking about.
	Nobody knows what he's talking about.
	But if any of this is true, how come that wasn't the red line?
	How come that's not what he was talking about?
	Oh, John, okay.
	Look, you and I are not going to have this discussion.
	Right.
	We're not going to actually try and put any kind of logic into it, are we?
	No, please.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Quick statement.
	We're done with it.
	Of course I can.
	I like kind of that Pierce, his job is to say, how can you be 100% sure?
	That's his only job.
	And McCain forgets that Pierce is supposed to do that.
	Here's why I can, because we know he's already used him.
	So why wouldn't he use him again?
	Only in larger quantities.
	I am more playing devil's advocate, to be honest with you, than disagreeing with you personally.
	But let me just point out to you...
	No, no, John, we discussed Pierce would play devil's advocate, then you answered.
	Ease up, buddy.
	Yeah.
	I want to ask you one question, sir.
	Go ahead.
	How can you be 100% sure on the evidence that we've seen that it wasn't a rogue element of the rebels deliberately letting off chemical weapons to try and lure America into a trap?
	That is an argument some people are putting forward.
	Yeah, and pigs fly.
	I'm...
	Only at Floyd shows.
	I think pigs fly, is what he said.
	That's his answer.
	How can you know that it's 100% sure that Assad gasped people?
	Well, pigs fly.
	Put that forward.
	The rebels don't have those weapons.
	They don't have the chemical weapons.
	And there is ample evidence that it is going to be forthcoming.
	The difference between this, here's the body stacked up, okay, and the ample evidence in Iraq.
	Let me ask you a question.
	Where did you see the bodies stacked up on the social media?
	I've never seen bodies stacked up.
	They've been strewn out.
	I have not seen stacked.
	And covered, and I think that's just a B-roll shot from someone.
	That's from Iraq, yeah.
	They've used that many times.
	And then there's a bunch of kids laying in a bundle, and just laying there.
	They didn't bother closing their eyes or doing anything, which doesn't make a lot of sense when they have everybody else neatly wrapped in white.
	And then there's a guy shaking, two guys shaking.
	Yeah, but he keeps saying that, you know, how can you dispute the evidence of stacked bodies?
	I'm like, I haven't seen the stacked bodies.
	Maybe he has.
	Well, he actually, I think, maybe I misunderstood the way he said this, but I think he misspoke in this particular little clip here.
	I think it's put him into a very difficult and contradictory position because this wasn't the first time that Bashar Assad crossed the red line.
	There are some allegations that it was as many as 30 times, absolutely as many as 10.
	And there's no doubt that this is chemical weapons.
	Come on.
	Does anybody really believe that those aren't chemical weapons, those bodies of those children stacked up?
	And so that's just a facade.
	Wait a minute.
	Did he just say that's a facade?
	Yeah, he did.
	That's a good catch.
	I think he meant to say that people...
	He's just babbling away and the truth comes out.
	Yeah.
	It's like, don't give him beer before he goes on the air because he literally said, this is a facade.
	And there's no doubt that this is chemical weapons.
	Come on.
	Does anybody really believe that those aren't chemical weapons?
	Those bodies of those children stacked up?
	And so, that's just a facade.
	And the other facade It's just a facade.
	Okay.
	Then he went on The Tonight Show.
	He's pounding the drum.
	I would like, you know, there used to be a rule.
	Here's my thinking on this.
	Raytheon is at an all-time high.
	It started skyrocketing.
	Oh, you're following the money.
	Hold on a second.
	$1.4 million a missile.
	Yes.
	And so Raytheon's really screaming in the stock market.
	Also, there is, you know, they tried to computerize, which is very easy to do, computerize the documents because Congress and the aides and the congressmen can invest in anything they want to based on anything they know.
	They're not subject to any insight or anything.
	Well, there was legislation signed by the President, and they do have to submit this within 90 days of making a trade, and the only record of it is in the basement, where you can get a photocopy of the microfiche.
	Right, you have to go to...
	First they proposed putting it online, which is easy to do, but then they changed it, so you actually...
	If I wanted to find out who owns shares in Raytheon...
	And when they bought.
	And I would suspect McCain is one of them.
	I have to go to Washington, D.C. and scrounge around a file system that I'm unfamiliar with to find the record I'm looking for, and then I have to pay a buck or something to get a copy of it.
	No one's going to do this.
	I mean, even though they should be doing it at the Washington Post, there should be one person full-time in that office.
	But there's probably nobody there half the time.
	Oh, we can't go in today.
	I'm sure it's not as easy to get in there as you'd imagine.
	So Raytheon's stock is skyrocketing.
	Now, they have to shoot off...
	In fact, there was...
	Let me look at this article.
	There's an article of all places in Politico.
	And they were bitching.
	It says, reports of White House's planning attacks to punish Damascus for the use of chemical weapons sent Raytheon stock to a two-week high.
	And of reawakening grumblings, reawakening grumblings in Congress that the military doesn't buy enough tomahawks.
	There have been many of us who have been concerned for years about maintaining our missile capabilities.
	Need more rockets!
	Rob Bishop, Republican of Utah, a member of the House Armed Services Committee.
	On paper, the Pentagon buys 196, multiply that by 1.4 million, Tomahawk missiles a year.
	Okay, can I just interject for one second?
	I'm looking at the chart, because this is what you said it, and then I went and fact-checked you.
	In February of 2013, Raytheon stock, which is RTN on the New York Stock Exchange, was at, let's see, $44.00.
	Close on Friday, $75.
	It has, that's like 80%.
	It's 80 to 85%.
	Right, and if you were buying puts or calls, you'd be buying some calls on that, you'd make 10 times your money.
	And you'd be rolling in hookers and blow.
	And by the way, this is discouraging because we should have seen this coming up down Broadway.
	Hey, John, you're the guy that's supposed to say, Adam, go buy these calls in Raytheon.
	I'm like, whatever.
	Just send me a link just so I can click on it.
	Now, of course, if this doesn't happen, because they were showing, if you remember some of the early clips, oh, they got 80 missiles they're going to fire, they're going to fire 80 missiles on this ship and 40 from that.
	That's $150 million right there.
	Yeah, during the sequester, I might add.
	And let's forget what it costs to roll the ship out.
	Right, during the sequester, I might add.
	Is that just a coincidence, you think?
	What?
	It's all happening during the sequester, of course.
	Oh, they don't pay attention to the sequester when they have to punish Damascus.
	Exactly.
	Whatever the case is, this is obviously somebody.
	The payday, so I think they've already made their money.
	They can all sell, hold out, do the thing with Congress, keep talking about it, don't do anything, and then go short with the puts.
	And say, yeah, we're not going to launch any of these missiles.
	We're not going to be buying too many.
	So you're saying that now is the time to short it, to buy on the downside, that it's going to drop like a rock, possibly down to 60.
	Yeah.
	So you think that they're not going to fire them off?
	You don't think they're going to light them up?
	Well, I'm getting to think that more and more ever since the British Parliament decided to short Raytheon.
	Now, let me ask you a question, because I looked at this, and of course people know that David Cameron went to his Parliament and said, oh, okay, the representatives of the British people, should we get involved?
	And they said no, but when you look at the underlying facts, that there were ten Ten members of Parliament who were like, oh, I didn't know there was a vote going on.
	I was pooping.
	Oh, I had a conflict, a scheduling conflict.
	There's actually discussion going on right now that, because our Congress is going to take a vote, and there's discussion in various forums as who the chicken shit guys are who aren't going to vote one way or the other.
	And I think that's what happened in Parliament, because they didn't want to take sides in case things went south.
	Do you think that, or do you think it was a setup intended, either A, to embarrass Cameron, or, quite possibly, to embarrass Obama, or to short Raytheon?
	And that actually seems like the most logical.
	I like the short Raytheon, yes.
	But I think Cameron was in on this whole scam, because he was such a loud mouth.
	I would agree.
	We had plenty of clips of him.
	Yes.
	Oh, we know we've got to do this, we've got to do that.
	They need to be punished.
	And he went on and on, knowing that the British public wouldn't go along with it, but it makes him look good.
	And Obama said, well, I tried.
	I tried.
	What can I do?
	I really did, but I can't fuck Parliament.
	Yeah.
	I don't think it makes them look bad at all.
	It's just, you know, because it throws right back to the parliament and they decided.
	Now they left, you know, all we have left is this idiot.
	Hold on.
	Listen to what McCain had to say when he was on The Tonight Show.
	Did you see him on The Tonight Show?
	No, I missed that.
	All right.
	This is a short clip, and he talks about...
	Funny that you caught it.
	You know, we actually, the other night, we said, hey, why don't we just watch it tonight?
	We wound up watching David Letterman because it was his, like, 20th anniversary on CBS or whatever.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, it was a pretty lame anniversary show.
	Yeah, but there you go.
	So yeah, sometimes I slip.
	I'll admit to it.
	Why would the U.N. not say?
	You know, Senator, I'm the front man for the New World Order.
	Why don't you come on my show and we'll tell the people, all two million of them who are watching.
	That's a good idea.
	Why don't we go bomb the runway?
	Let's go bomb the runway.
	This is how it's propagated to the American people.
	We're only going to bomb the runway.
	No problem.
	We're going to bomb the runway.
	No soldiers involved.
	Nobody's being killed.
	You're just blowing up land.
	No one's going to be killed.
	We're just blowing up land, Jay.
	Why doesn't the U.N. go for this?
	The U.N. has turned into an organization that...
	In my estimation, in many ways, it is a waste of taxpayers' dollars.
	Right now, the UN is in there ascertaining whether this was a chemical attack, and I think it's fairly obvious, since you see these bodies stacked up with not a mark on them.
	I still haven't seen the stacks!
	And the head of the United Nations has said, but we won't apportion blame.
	What?
	What?
	They're not going to say who is responsible for it?
	That's your tax dollars at work.
	Why won't they say that?
	Because they want to be neutral.
	They want to be neutral about everything.
	And I feel badly about the British.
	They're our dear friends, but they're no longer a world power.
	He must be leveraged up the butt with Raytheon.
	It's funny.
	Talk about your taxpayer dollars at work.
	That's you, McCain.
	Of course, I was, like you, I'm sure, really like, wow, this is an interesting move when the president came out and said, hey, I've decided that we need to take military action.
	However, I'm going to take it to a vote.
	And then, you know, actually, for those who haven't heard, I mean, I have the clips.
	Do you want to play any of that of the president talking about that?
	Well, maybe some people.
	You know, a lot of people listen to our show to get the news.
	All right, I have it in sequence.
	Okay, so here's...
	Give them a little news.
	Yeah, and these are short, so this is good.
	This is how the president started off, his Rose Garden speech.
	Several hundred of them were children.
	Young girls and boys gassed to death by their own government.
	Woo-hoo!
	To what end?
	To what end?
	Oh yeah, it makes so much sense.
	...is an assault on human dignity.
	It also presents a serious danger to our national security.
	It risks making a mockery of the global prohibition on the use of chemical weapons.
	The global prohibition?
	This is a new term, John.
	The global prohibition.
	It endangers our friends and our partners along Syria's borders, including Israel, Jordan, Turkey, Lebanon, and Iraq.
	It could lead to escalating use of chemical weapons.
	Yeah.
	Or their proliferation to terrorist groups who would do our people harm.
	So just, I mean, to me, the...
	What was that term again?
	I was just writing it down.
	I lost it.
	Prohibition.
	Global prohibition.
	Global prohibition.
	You know, when the president comes out and says this, and any person who has not been mesmerized and hypnotized by the scan lines of your telescreen You know, you have to say, well, why would a guy do that?
	Is it just because he's like an evil dictator sitting there, stroking his white pussy, laughing?
	And there's a problem.
	The real problem is asthma.
	Asma Al-Assad is his wife.
	She's the problem in all of this because she was, in 2012, featured in Vogue magazine.
	She's born in the UK, educated in the UK, has been a fashion icon.
	And Angelina Jolie and Brad Pitt hung out with them.
	They were dining.
	And Angelina Jolie, who I think is the ambassador for all children and all things dying at the United Nations.
	And where is she denouncing her friend Asma Al-Assad?
	So now we have to go on this campaign to make sure we've got all the bases covered.
	This is USA Today, who do video, apparently.
	It's in today's cover story, another side to the conflict in Syria.
	The British-born wife of the Syrian president.
	Today's Erica Hill has her story.
	Erica, good morning.
	Okay, Erica, good morning.
	Could you please slander her?
	Good morning.
	Mac, good morning to you.
	Asma al-Assad is standing by her man, smiling by his side in his recent photos, and she's also inspiring some new comparisons to other famous wives.
	What would that other famous wife be, John?
	Could you figure the meme out?
	Michelle Obama.
	Not the kind most people would want.
	No.
	In pictures, Asma al-Assad.
	Ava Brown.
	No, Marie Antoinette.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Appears to be the ultimate first lady.
	Active in charity work.
	Perfectly styled.
	Well educated.
	But she's really evil underneath.
	Evil.
	Evil.
	A 2011 Vogue piece called her glamorous, young, and very chic.
	And kind of sexy.
	I'd like to point that out.
	The freshest and most magnetic of first ladies.
	Magnetic.
	Very much into fashion.
	Always looking her best.
	Liked to travel.
	She's also very well educated.
	Born in London in 1975 to Syrian parents, Asma al-Assad was raised and educated in England.
	She worked in banking before quitting in late 2000 to move to Syria and marry President Bashir al-Assad.
	Sounds evil to me, John.
	I think she's a baddie.
	Did she say tyranny work?
	I think she said tyranny work.
	She was always seen as the more reasonable, the kinder, gentler face of a brutal regime.
	I'm not going to play the whole thing because it just goes on and on.
	But it ends up with her being compared to Marie Antoinette.
	Of course, let them eat cake while my husband slaughters them.
	Slaughters our own people.
	Yes, because...
	If you're going to slaughter somebody, don't slaughter the rebels.
	I'll slaughter the people trying to take your country away.
	Slaughter your own people.
	Yes.
	Because that makes so much sense.
	It's a great meme.
	I love how they always talk about Assad and his military and his forces and And I caught our president kind of doing the same thing yesterday.
	Now, I have not made a final decision about various actions that might be taken to help enforce that norm.
	But as I've already said, I have had my military and our team.
	My military!
	Really?
	I would say that's a little flub.
	My military.
	Your military, that's right.
	So, yes, yes.
	Okay, so he's decided to take military action.
	After careful deliberation, I have decided that the United States should take military action against Syrian regime targets.
	This would not be an open-ended intervention.
	We would not put boots on the ground.
	Instead, our action would be designed to be limited in duration and scope.
	But I'm confident we can hold the Assad regime accountable for their use of chemical weapons, deter this kind of behavior, and degrade their capacity to carry it out.
	Our military has positioned assets in the region.
	The chairman of the Joint Chiefs has informed me that we are prepared to strike whenever we choose.
	And then he goes on to say the incredible thing that...
	But, having made my decision as Commander-in-Chief based on what I am convinced is our national security interests, I'm also mindful that I'm the president of the world's oldest constitutional democracy.
	I've long believed that our power is...
	I know he's adjusted that.
	That's funny.
	What?
	He used to say that he used to say the oldest democracy.
	Yeah, it's now the world's oldest constitutional.
	No, the world's oldest constitution, which is different, because the world's oldest democracy is in Iceland.
	Right.
	This is constitutional democracy.
	Good point.
	...rooted not just in our military might, but in our example, as a government of the people, by the people, and for the people.
	And that's why I've made a second decision.
	Sitting on the face of the people.
	I will seek authorization for the use of force from the American people's representatives in Congress Whoa!
	They're right I looked into this quite deeply, because you know, as a constitutional professor myself, I'm always interested when he brings this kind of stuff up, and what exactly is he seeking?
	I think that there's a lot of confusion.
	First of all, what he's doing is he's addressing the War Powers Resolution, Which I'd like to point out is not called the War Powers Act.
	This is a big mistake I hear constantly on the mainstream news.
	It's a resolution.
	And the War Powers Resolution doesn't really give anything.
	It was really meant as a clarification on the presidential powers in the Constitution.
	Did you know what was in here?
	Did you know how this worked?
	How this war powers resolution thing fits together?
	Most presidents actually don't like the war powers resolution.
	They think that they should be total dictators and do whatever they want.
	But the President sent a letter to Congress, and in that letter he's specifically asking for a...
	It's a very simple...
	Have you seen this?
	It's a very, very simple note.
	He says he wants authorization, and he actually wrote the document.
	The only thing Congress has to do is come back and go, yay or nay.
	So, A, authorization.
	The President is authorized to use the armed forces of the United States as he determines to be necessary and appropriate in connection with the use of chemical weapons or other weapons of mass destruction in the conflict in Syria in order to, one...
	Prevent or deter the use or proliferation, including the transfer to terrorist groups or other state or non-state actors, within, to or from Syria, of any weapons of mass destruction, including chemical or biological weapons, or components of or materials used in such weapons, or protect the United States and its allies and partners against the threat posed by such weapons.
	And why don't we just say, put the crown on his head.
	You're king.
	Go ahead.
	Do whatever you want.
	Specific statutory authorization.
	Consistent with Section 8A1 of the War Powers Resolution, Congress declares that this section is intended to constitute specific...
	This is very important.
	This is constitutionally very important what's written here.
	I'm reading it again.
	He's saying that this will be a vote, and this vote will say...
	That consistent with Section A1 of the War Powers Resolution, Congress declares this section of the War Powers Resolution is intended to constitute specific statutory authorization within the meaning of 5B of the War Powers Resolution.
	And what he is saying is essentially what he said.
	Yet while I believe I have the authority to carry out this military action without specific congressional authorization, I know that the country will be stronger if we take this course and our actions will be even more effective.
	So he's basically saying, I believe I can do whatever I want because he's not declaring war.
	This is all this sneaky stuff that they're trying to...
	It's all about the words.
	In the 18th century, declaring war meant something different.
	Unless someone writes it up on paper with a quill and ink, it's not really the same.
	Wink, wink, nudge, nudge.
	So what is happening here is not just whether we go or not, it will forever, I would say, ratify the power of the president and what he can do with our military at his beck and call, essentially.
	Yeah, and it will be for all the presidents to come.
	Yes.
	Most presidents, by the way, have always said they found the War Powers Resolution to be, you know, unconstitutional and doesn't adhere to them.
	They've all said, screw it, when I'm listening to that.
	Well, that won't last for long.
	Well, so here's the question.
	What do you think Hillary's going to do?
	She's going to laugh when we kill him.
	That's her script.
	When we killed who?
	What do you mean when we killed who?
	Do you remember when we killed Gaddafi?
	I mean, that is the land of unconfirmed.
	Yes, we came, we saw, he died.
	I mean, when they kill Assad, she'd be laughing.
	Yeah, she's going to be laughing.
	Yeah, party, party time.
	Exactly, that's what she does.
	Oh, we killed him.
	What an idiot.
	And I took her dresses.
	Ha, ha, ha.
	Something like that.
	So I got a few clips here where we're going to be stuck on this topic for a while today.
	But I did kind of ask you a question.
	Yeah?
	And I'll ask it again.
	Do you think that the American people, whether something happens or not, will cause enough ruckus to have their representatives in Congress say, no, we are not going to do this?
	Well, I think they already have.
	These congressmen all went home for the vacation, and they all, everyone I've heard from that has come, that's talking from either home or they're already headed back.
	They've already gotten an earful.
	And I think that's the reason that the president wanted to get them back home earlier.
	Because, you know, they're supposed to be back on the 9th of September, but they're trying to get them home this weekend so they can discuss this problem.
	And I think the real reason is because these guys are just hearing it from the public, going, what is this waste of money?
	And I'm sure they bring up stuff like the sequester and these missiles and what they...
	Really?
	Do you think there's anyone who's just going?
	The people that go to town hall meetings, yes.
	Do you think anyone just says, hey, I have an idea.
	Hello?
	Can we stop killing people?
	I'm just not all for that right now.
	No one does that?
	They all talk about the money and the sequester?
	Yeah, you're probably right.
	How sad is that?
	Well, I'm sure there's some, especially, you know, old-fashioned Democrats who are, you know, the ones that are completely out of power that are kind of progressive and they don't like the idea of killing anybody.
	They're pacifists.
	Yeah, I'm sure they bitch and moan.
	But, you know, they probably have long hair and they're throwbacks.
	And they wear dresses.
	And they wear dresses and kilts.
	Hey, why are you tweeting during the show?
	That's not okay.
	I just tweeted once.
	You're answering a guy during the show.
	I'm not doing another one.
	I just happened to have, because you had me go retweet, I had the thing open and this guy annoyed me.
	I should have just said blocked.
	Blocked and report as spam.
	Blocked and report as spam.
	I do want to just take us back quickly and then I want to hear what you found for us.
	I want to take us back to March 21st, 2011.
	It is U.S. policy that Gaddafi needs to go.
	But...
	Let me emphasize that we anticipate this transition to take place in a matter of days and not a matter of weeks.
	Just wanted to remind you of the days, not weeks, last time that we did this.
	And we're still there.
	And how's Libya, by the way?
	Now that we've gotten rid of the evil dictator who was not only responsible for killing Americans in Pan Am Flight 103, but also for killing his own people.
	They seem really happy, don't they?
	I see nothing but...
	Disco balls and unicorns and rainbows and, yes, general joy.
	That's okay.
	You're trying to interrupt me.
	That's why you do it.
	I want to mention to people out there that we're the only produced broadcast of anyone that keeps pointing this out.
	This is Days Not Weeks.
	Everyone else is there.
	You play it once and then they, well, whatever.
	I'm just making the point there.
	That's because we host and produce at the same time.
	Yes, and also we are only supported by the public.
	Yes.
	In fact, if I brought my mail up right now, would it be a good time to thank our executive producers?
	Only if I can say in the morning to you, John C. Dvorak.
	Well, in the morning to you, Adam Curry, in the morning to all ships that see boots on the ground, feet in the air, subs in the water, and also all the dames and knights out there.
	Yes, and in the morning to our human resources who have been in the chat room waiting diligently for the show to start, noagendastream.com, noagendachat.net.
	We played 12 minutes of Jimi Hendrix while you were getting your computer gear together, and we enjoyed that together.
	Thank you to our artist.
	Joshua Predigrew comes in again with the artwork from noagendaartgenerator.com.
	So he did 542 and 543.
	And it was just good.
	He had the missile going, and he had the little funny slogan with the font that was large enough.
	Yeah.
	You know, he said, hey, Syria, here's a freedom coming.
	You know, I think these artists are interesting because they all run in bursts.
	They do.
	Yeah, they do.
	You're right.
	They get on a roll, and they hit, hit, hit, hit, hit, and then they...
	Well, it's hard.
	It's hard.
	It's very hard.
	It's like being a musician.
	You can't have hits all the time.
	Well, it's also like being us, John.
	I mean, we're twice a week.
	We try to have the best podcast in the universe.
	A couple years ago, we had a bad show.
	Yeah.
	Gee, I remember it well.
	Yes.
	Wait a minute.
	Where's my harp sound?
	I can't find it.
	All right, let's thank a few of the executive producers, including Roy Pierce from Fort Pierce.
	Wait, I'm just recalling.
	Yes.
	Yes, it was around episode 200.
	Okay.
	It was 202, as a matter of fact.
	Roy Pierce, $1111.00.
	What?!
	Yeah.
	Wow.
	He came in as an instantite.
	Yeah, I'll say.
	He asked listeners to watch the movie President's Analyst.
	It was thought to be satire 45 years ago, but turned out to be mostly true.
	Wow.
	President?
	Who was in this movie?
	Hold on.
	I vaguely remember.
	I think this was with the guy who used to play Armand Flint.
	I'm guessing.
	Take a look.
	I'm taking a look right now.
	The President's Analyst, 1967, satirical...
	This is from the Book of Knowledge.
	Satirical comedy written by Theodore Flicker, James Coburn.
	Yeah, Coburn.
	Yeah, that's a real actor.
	Let's see.
	The film's elements of political satire, science fiction, resembles many of the spy spoofs that proliferated in the mid-60s in the wake of the James Bond phenomenon.
	Yeah, our man Flint.
	Wow, John.
	Yeah, that's right.
	Okay, the film's themes include modern ethics and privacy concerns, specifically regarding the intrusion of the telecom system, working with the U.S. government into the private lives of the country's citizens.
	Oh my God, this is so on my list.
	Yeah, you have to watch it.
	I've seen it recently.
	And it's funny.
	It's a funny movie.
	Although Colburn gets on your nerves because he plays this character.
	I don't know.
	Well, it's also the acting from the 60s.
	From the era.
	Yeah, that's a little...
	It's also the sets are really bright and all the rest.
	Okay, cool.
	Anyway, that's our tip of the day for everybody out there.
	Thank you very much.
	Sir Roy will be knighting you.
	And does he have a specific name he wants for his knighthood?
	Is he on the list there?
	Oh, he's on the list.
	Sir Roy of Ancona is what he wants to be known as.
	Oh, that sounds reasonable.
	Yeah, totally.
	Donald Silva in Iwa Beach, Hawaii.
	You know, the guy's...
	I'm not going to do that joke.
	$350.
	I have a note from him.
	He mailed this check-in.
	He should be on the night's list because he had sent a bunch of checks.
	Yes.
	He is on the list.
	He sent in two checks in 2011, one in 2012, and three this year.
	So he's...
	Getting up in the world.
	Today's donation of $3.50.
	My total will exceed $1,000.
	My ring size is $11.
	Please send me some good karma for better health.
	I've been in the hospital three times last month for high blood pressure.
	Oh, wow.
	What do you have to go to the hospital for?
	What are they going to do?
	If it's really high, before your head explodes.
	Thank you for producing the best podcast in the universe.
	No one is as entertaining and insightful about politics and the media as you two are.
	My eyes have been opened.
	Good.
	He needs a karma first.
	Yeah, some health karma coming your way right now, amigo.
	You've got karma.
	And go to noagendanation.com slash rings for your ring, and we'll be knighting you later in the ceremony.
	Thank you for your contribution.
	Onward, Ryan Beck, 33333 from Rancho Cucamonga.
	Anaheim, Azusa, and Cucamonga.
	Greetings from Rancho Cucamonga.
	As a six-year listener, I may very well be the king of the douchebags because I have never donated to the best podcast in the universe.
	After six years.
	How come Rancho Cucamonga sounds so familiar, though?
	Rancho Cucamonga.
	I think we have another listener in Rancho Cucamonga.
	Okay.
	I'm doing so today to plug my friend Ron Boyd's awesome new app, the No Agenda Karma Generator, available on Apple's App Store.
	Yeah, I put it in the show notes on the last episode.
	It's pretty funny.
	It's a cool app.
	Adam mentioned in a last Sunday show when my friend Ron came in as an associate executive producer, but I strongly feel Ron's app deserves a second plug.
	All of the No Agenda listeners need to go right now and download it.
	Ron's app is outstanding as most of the jingles, blah, blah, blah.
	Sorry to be such a cheap-ass bastard.
	I may never be able to give at the level of Baron Von Pelsmockers, but I do hope to eventually become a knight.
	And by the way, he's the Grand Duke.
	Thank you for all the informative and entertaining shows.
	Please give me a de-douching and a Pelosi jobs, jobs, jobs.
	Absolutely.
	And again, it is the no agenda karma generator in the iTunes app store.
	You've been de-douched.
	Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
	Let's vote for jobs!
	There you go.
	I threw a karma in there as a little extra bonus.
	Thomas Ballard, 33333 from Wingo, Kentucky.
	Hell of a job with the show, Jansen.
	Now that I'm an executive producer, it's time to network.
	I've been writing movie scripts for a couple of years, and I can't get the things read.
	You're in Kentucky.
	John, easy now.
	But wait a minute.
	Now that if he puts his executive producer credit on his LinkedIn profile, people might be a little more interested all of a sudden.
	If any No Agenda brothers or sisters know anyone with Hollywood connections, I would deeply appreciate the help.
	I would even donate 5% of my Bring Home from any project coming from this to No Agenda.
	Don't you know that movies never make money?
	No, whatever you get at the beginning is what you're going to get.
	Right.
	Contact me at ThomasBallard, ThomasUnderlineBallard at Yahoo.com.
	Also, if you need any more second half of the show type clips.
	No, he says we need, we need more.
	Oh.
	Yeah.
	Well, the problem is the first half is all-consuming.
	Yeah, the problem is when we have some situation like this.
	Well, no, but not even that.
	And stock is involved.
	All you have to do is just listen to John McCain.
	I mean, he could fit in the second half as easy.
	He's talking about kids, pigs flying.
	I mean, please, what more do you want?
	No, I guess this is Ione Emrich.
	Ione, I-O-A-N. In Brook Park, Ohio, another three.
	I would say I-N. Could be.
	Small stimulus for two dudes for their mediocre news reporting.
	Had a long drive on Friday and listened to four shows.
	Had to slow down a few times I was laughing so bad I couldn't keep the wheels straight.
	Please send me some karma with a C. Oh, okay.
	That's this one.
	Let me push the other button.
	You've got karma.
	You know, of all the things that people say about the show, when they say that they laughed, that makes me the happiest.
	It does.
	I'm always wondering what they're laughing at.
	Well, it's...
	I mean, our jokes are, you know, we have some funny lines that they're just throwing in because we're lighthearted about the news.
	No, no.
	Strangely enough, it's the stuff that we don't even know is funny.
	It's just you and me, like, being us, and then people are like, you guys are hilarious!
	Kevin Anderson, $250 from Milford, Michigan.
	We're just getting by some homeschooling our kids, by the way, which is a great way to bring your kids up, homeschool them.
	On a small farm while I work 80 to 90 hours a week as a salaried corporate slave.
	Why does the government fear individualism?
	Because they have nothing to offer us, so they can't control us?
	Adam, keep hitting them in the mouth, especially if they try to play the harmonica or kazoo.
	Those noises on no agenda are like diarrhea and a filet mignon.
	Please give me some family karma because my work schedule has put a strain on all of us.
	I think he's looking at you, John.
	Let me get out a harmonica there.
	Please.
	You've got karma.
	Jeff Yerke in Concord, $202.
	And he says, in the morning, Napoleon and Ilya, thanks for my wife, Laura's karma shot.
	She is on the road to a full recovery.
	Wow.
	We need to do more to promote the value-for-value model of the no-agenda healthcare model.
	All right.
	She apparently was...
	Lori.
	Lori was...
	Diagnosed with something, and they found that she's cancer-free or something.
	Yeah, no, it came back completely negative.
	There was nothing in there.
	You know, this is, and I don't know, you know Jeff, but I do, but it sounds to me like one of those calls that you get from these a-holes, like, oh, you're precancerous, you know.
	Oh, yeah, yeah.
	And they freak you out for a week, and then you've got to go do your biopsy, and that's not fun.
	Yeah, no, the whole thing is terrible.
	But anyway, Jeff's okay now.
	And this is Laurie, who is more important.
	Yes.
	I like Jeff.
	Indeed.
	We're working on this project to digitize all the Red Fox material from the 60s.
	Hi, John and Adam.
	This is Chuck Kohler, $201.33 Mountain Terrace, Washington.
	I was riding my bike into downtown Seattle over the Fremont Bridge.
	They have a daily counter of how many bikes cross, and it was 3-3-3.
	Yeah.
	33.
	That's a magic number.
	Yeah, it must have been an omen.
	Yeah, so he gave us some contributions, and we're in business.
	He says...
	He says, fucking long handwriting.
	He had some bitches and moans.
	He printed this note.
	All right.
	Misty Tolman.
	$201.
	That sounds like a porn name if I ever heard one, by the way.
	It's a great name, yeah.
	Misty Tolman.
	Hey.
	$200.01 Colorado Springs.
	This donation is my husband's request for his birthday gift.
	You would really appreciate it if you gave him a shout-out.
	Did you get the other birthday thing I sent you in the email?
	Yes, I did.
	We forgot Wendy in Chicago?
	Yeah, I got Wendy.
	The reason we did miss Wendy in Chicago is because Wendy, who gives some money later, it came in the mail and I didn't pick up last Wednesday's mail.
	The place was closed.
	Oh.
	This donation is my husband's request for his birthday gift.
	He would really appreciate it if you gave him a shout-out for his birthday, which we do, which is today.
	Now, why do you think she gave us 201 penny?
	I mean, I'll happily drop it in there.
	I'm just curious why one penny, if there's anything in the notes.
	It never says.
	Her husband is Joel Tallman.
	Tallman.
	Misty.
	Misty.
	Well, let me tell you that.
	Okay.
	She does three ways.
	She's Misty Tillman.
	Yeah, I think that sounds good.
	Yeah, that goes to our next donation right there.
	No, you don't understand.
	Damn Astrid Klein, our buddy in Tokyo.
	Oh, yes.
	We got an email from her this morning.
	200.
	I didn't get the email.
	No, no.
	It was to Ms.
	Mickey.
	She wants to recommend The Curtain by Patrick Ord.
	This won't be new to No Agenda listeners who know that data mining is used for marketing strategies to brainwash consumers.
	A bit heavy on the do-good side.
	And sorry, Adam, no sex here, but it's a good primer for N.A. freshers.
	Why bother reading it then?
	Daymaster, the Viscountess of Tokyo.
	You know, Ms.
	Mickey...
	She's got a show in Tokyo and we're going in March and we're going to be staying with...
	I think Dame Astrid has kindly offered her one of her many vestibules.
	A vestibule?
	Isn't that what it's called?
	A vestibule?
	For us to stay in as long as we like.
	And she wants to organize a no agenda meetup in Tokyo.
	Oh, great.
	That's sushi.
	You don't sound very, like, happy.
	Well, I mean, we have, like, three Tokyo listeners.
	She said she looked at the map.
	She said there was a lot more than you think it is.
	Well, maybe.
	I haven't looked at the map recently.
	Well, it sounds like a lot of fun.
	I think you should take advantage of it.
	Do I sense some jealousy?
	Yeah.
	I'm totally perked I wasn't invited.
	Who said you can't come?
	I hate Tokyo.
	I really hate Tokyo.
	You have no idea.
	Let me just write this down.
	And the portions are so small.
	I hate those twigs!
	I can't eat with them.
	Thank you, Viscountess of Tokyo, Dame Astrid.
	Lovely donation and suggestion there.
	Again, that is the...
	The Curtain by Patrick Ord.
	I've got to put that in the show notes as well.
	Interesting.
	I want to thank these and all of our producers for contributing to show 544.
	And you remember to go to dvorak.org slash na, channeldvorak.com slash na, or you can go to the No Agenda Nation website.
	Or the Know Jim the Show website and click on the donate button.
	You'll find another page there, places where you can help us out.
	But the funny thing is, whenever you close your eyes before you go to bed, you know that moment when you're just starting to fall into that sleep and you're just starting to drift away?
	Dvorak.org slash NA. You're going to wake up and you're going to have to go donate.
	A couple of PR mentions, John.
	We have a Samsung TV and Blu-ray app.
	Did you know this?
	No, I'm glad to hear it.
	Yeah, do you have a Samsung TV? No.
	Okay.
	I guess the guys who make the Twit app did this.
	What's interesting is the description of the show.
	On the app itself, but there's a link in the show notes.
	I'm not even going to read that to you.
	John won't like it.
	It's a free app, no agenda show, and you can use it on your TV, your Samsung TV, or your Blu-ray.
	And you can use that to get the live as well as the archived episodes of the show.
	I want to thank Sir Paul Couture of noagendaartgenerator.com, a link in the show notes as well, to his Gmail how-to, which he did a really good job with screenshots and arrows and circles and stuff.
	So if you are still not receiving the, or if you're confused as how to get your emails out of the Gmail promotion tab, specifically the Noagenda newsletter, that's a good little how-to that will help you.
	If you can go to blog.curry.com for a moment there, John.
	Sir Dallas Spongberg, once a year his son Dallas does something very special for the show.
	What is it?
	Blog.curry.com?
	Yeah, yeah.
	Blog.curry.com.
	And you'll see their demo derby, and you have to click on the link to reveal the pictures.
	Oh, yes.
	His son, Dallas, participated in the Demolition Derby once again with the No Agenda 33 mobile.
	Magic number.
	Shut up, Slade.
	It's a beauty.
	It's a beaut.
	Unfortunately, I think he got a really hard hit, and the battery flew out, and he was out of the race.
	Yeah, it doesn't take much.
	Yeah.
	He's got all the memes on there.
	Shut up, slave.
	No agenda.
	Hit him in the mouth.
	Get a life.
	That might have happened after the crash.
	Get a life.
	What is he, loser?
	I love it, though.
	That's fantastic that he does that.
	I just wish our car would hang in.
	You know, we should probably sponsor a few Demo Derby cars.
	Well, what is there to sponsor?
	You have to buy him a tire, usually, or something like that.
	I had a perfectly good Range Rover we could have thrown into one of these things.
	Oh, that would have been a great car for a Demo Derby.
	Yeah.
	I've always wanted to drive in a Demo Derby.
	I know the techniques.
	You have to drive backwards.
	Yeah, you have to drive the reverse direction of your engine, essentially.
	Right.
	So you're always ramming people from the backside, which I think the best car for that would be, I believe, a 77 Lincoln.
	I think it would be a perfect car for that.
	Well, the problem is, people always go for the axles, because people think it's the engine you have to disable, but it's really the axle.
	Once you can make this thing break an axle, then you're out as well.
	Yeah.
	And I think the 77 Lincoln may be prone to axle breakage.
	That's assuming somebody hits you.
	Got a big 460 engine, you'd be driving around like a maniac.
	True, true.
	It takes some effort.
	Also, the Freedom Controller is now open.
	It's all good.
	Yeah, what I'm going to do is before, so only for people who are listening to the podcast live, you'll be able to sign up.
	Go to cart.curry.com, C-A-R-T, cart.curry.com, and you'll need the secret word.
	That's the one I'm going to change after the show.
	So if you're listening to the podcast, you're not going to be able to sign up for our beta, only if you're listening live right now.
	And the secret word, of course, is in the morning.
	It's not a word.
	Yeah, it's all one word.
	No spaces in the morning.
	So that technically is a phrase, but it's all one word.
	Isn't that how you say it?
	All one word?
	All lowercase?
	No spaces?
	Yeah, that's what you do.
	Alright, well let's take us out of this segment.
	Okay, I shall do that.
	Please, do this one thing for us.
	It's the formula.
	Propagate it.
	Our formula is this.
	We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
	Water! Order!
	Shut up, slave!
	Shut up, slave!
	Now, the Freedom Controller, by the way, is, you know, there's no money in it.
	It's just a way to get off Facebook and off G+. That's all I'm trying to do.
	What?
	I think it's a great idea.
	I wish everyone would just get off Facebook and G +, without needing any coaxing.
	Yeah, well, good luck with that.
	That's not going to happen.
	They need free trinkets.
	Oh, look, it's free.
	By the way, John.
	Like, like, like.
	I need to...
	Plus me.
	We need to...
	I'll plush you.
	This is a very important month.
	The president has proclaimed...
	Let me see.
	1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9 proclamations for the month of September.
	Starting off, of course, with Labor Day.
	Of course, Labor Day will be Monday, which is when all working Americans get one day off.
	Guaranteed.
	By presidential proclamation, September is National Ovarian Cancer Awareness Month.
	It is also, by presidential proclamation, National Alcohol and Drug Addiction Recovery Month.
	By Presidential Proclamation, National Childhood Obesity Awareness Month.
	By Presidential Proclamation, the month of September is National Wilderness Month.
	Oh, this is a good one.
	By Presidential Proclamation, National Childhood Cancer Awareness Month.
	Yay!
	This is a great month to be born.
	Oh, wait!
	By Presidential Proclamation, National Prostate Cancer Awareness Month.
	Feel your prostate, John.
	How we feeling?
	And then finally, this has got to be my favorite.
	I'll read this one.
	Time and again, America faces crises that test our readiness and challenge our resolve.
	From natural disasters like hurricanes, tornadoes, and floods, to shootings, cyber incidents, and even acts of terrorism.
	While my administration is working tirelessly to avert national tragedies, it is every American's responsibility to be prepared by planning for emergencies.
	Individuals can protect themselves and their families while also contributing to their community's resilience.
	During National Preparedness Month, we refocus our efforts on readying ourselves, our families, our neighbors, and our nation for any crisis we may face.
	I like the way they slipped the cyber thing in there.
	Isn't that great?
	Shootings.
	I like the shootings.
	And by the way, shootings.
	From floods to shootings.
	What's that?
	There's another shooting, man.
	Don't worry about it.
	It's a shooting.
	Of course, be prepared is the motto of the Boy Scouts.
	That is the Boy Scouts' marching song.
	So there you have it.
	Who now have a huge lawsuit, the pedo-bearer lawsuit against the Boy Scouts.
	Well...
	So anyway, and it is also, of course, the month in which I was born in 1964.
	I will be celebrating on Tuesday.
	This coming Tuesday?
	This coming Tuesday.
	Are you going to put your name on the list?
	No, I'm not going to congratulate myself.
	I demand it.
	Okay, I'll put myself...
	Adam, 40...
	Thanks to John.
	No, John wishes...
	I wish you a happy birthday.
	Okay.
	You're going to be 50.
	No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
	No, you're going to be 50.
	Next year?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	You're going to be 60.
	That's wishful thinking, but okay.
	You'll make it.
	John's like, crap, if he doesn't make 60, what am I going to do?
	What's my income going to be?
	I can cruise for a month or something, but without Curry, what are we going to do?
	Believe me, I worry about you too.
	Let's play a couple clips.
	Please.
	Let's get the British Parliament nose vote out of the way so we can hear them yelling and screaming.
	The eyes to the right, 272.
	the nose to the left, 285.
	Thank you. - Let's go!
	Go now!
	Why can't we have that in Congress?
	That is cool.
	Can you just imagine, like, Boehner going...
	He's actually saying order.
	No, he's not.
	He's going...
	He is.
	If you play along, you can actually hear the word, but he's saying order!
	Order!
	Well, it doesn't really matter what he's saying.
	It's hilarious.
	An exploded volcano.
	I've got an exploding volcano here.
	It's erupted.
	Calm yourself, man.
	The eyes to the right, 272.
	The nose to the left, 285.
	So the nose have it.
	The nose have it.
	Unlock!
	Unlock?
	Unlock?
	I don't know what the unlock means.
	Someone's going to have to explain it.
	Unlock!
	There's somebody standing there, and then when he says unlock, they leave.
	They're not allowed out until the vote?
	Is that it?
	I don't know what the deal is.
	I guess maybe they lock them into place.
	The doorkeeper, oh no, it says right here, unlock.
	The doorkeepers then unlock the door to the division lobbies.
	Yeah, so I guess they're kept in until the vote is counted.
	Yeah.
	I like that.
	We should do that at school.
	We should do it at school.
	Unlock!
	Alright, now you can leave.
	So I've got...
	I've teased this in the newsletter, and I'm going to...
	I think it's a good time to play it, because we're still talking about Syria a little bit.
	I do have a couple of things about Syria I want to mention, but we might as well do...
	I've decided that if I'm going to play any John Kerry clips...
	I'm sorry, you mean John F. Kerry.
	John F. Kerry clips.
	I am going to sweeten them.
	Yeah.
	And so I've decided that, well, what would be the absolute best thing?
	Because the guy's a slow talker and there's some issues.
	I want to speed him up.
	I don't want to get into that debate.
	Have you noticed the lizard tongue on that dude?
	Oh yeah, he sticks it out a lot.
	And it's a little bitty pointy thing.
	It's kind of creepy.
	I have learned from the agency professionals that when you're evaluating someone talking, whenever they stick their tongue out, that's usually right after the lie.
	And if you really look at when he's talking, and that tongue, and it's freaky.
	Could you imagine, like, tonguing that guy?
	That's a really horrible thought.
	Thanks for bringing it up.
	My pleasure.
	So, yeah, yeah, that's interesting because I was...
	It's like a tell.
	It's like a tell.
	It's an interesting tell.
	Well, we should pay more attention to it.
	But so I decided, well, what would be the only thing that would make sense in a way to sweeten His little speech.
	So here's a little two minutes of Kerry delivering his commentary about the crisis in Syria.
	President Obama has spent many days now consulting with Congress and talking with leaders around the world about the situation in Syria.
	The President asked all of us on his national security team to consult with the leaders of Congress as well, including the leadership of the Congressional and National Security Committees.
	And he asked us to consult about what we know regarding the horrific chemical weapons attack in the Damascus suburbs last week.
	I will tell you that as someone who spent nearly three decades in the United States Congress, I know that that consultation is the right way for a president to approach a decision of when and how and if to use military force.
	It's important to ask the tough questions and get the tough answers before taking action, not just afterwards.
	And I believe, as President Obama does, that it is also important to discuss this directly with the American people.
	That's our responsibility.
	To talk to the citizens who have entrusted all of us The administration and the Congress were the responsibility for their security.
	That's why this morning's release of our government's unclassified estimate of what took place in Syria is so important.
	Its findings are as clear as they are to cover.
	I'm not asking you to take my word for it.
	Read for yourself, everyone, those listening, all of you.
	Read for yourselves the evidence from thousands of sources, evidence that is already publicly available.
	And read for yourselves the verdict reached by our intelligence community about the chemical weapons attack the Assad regime inflicted on the opposition and on opposition-controlled or contested neighborhoods in the Damascus suburbs on the early morning of August 21st.
	So, what part did you actually sweeten, John?
	Couldn't quite figure out the...
	That's pretty good.
	Could have been 40 seconds shorter, probably.
	Yeah, probably.
	I got something kind of similar that our producer Drew did.
	And you just tell me when you think it's enough, but I thought he did a very good job.
	Something similar, but of course not with the finesse.
	I mean, doing a laugh track in the right spot, that takes some expertise.
	Twelve channels on that, baby.
	As a father, I can't get the image out of my head of a man who held up his dead child, wailing while chaos swirled around him.
	The images of entire families dead in their beds without a drop of blood or even a visible wound.
	Bodies torting and spasms.
	Human suffering that we can never ignore.
	This is so sick.
	Today's drone campaign in Pakistan has killed dozens of civilians who've gone to rescue victims who were attending funerals.
	Anybody who could claim that an attack of this staggering scale could be contrived or fabricated needs to check their conscience and their own moral compass.
	Between 282 and 535 civilians have been reported as killed, including more than 60 children.
	Everything these images...
	I'll play it as an end-of-show clip.
	I like it.
	It's good.
	Yeah, but it goes on for like three more minutes.
	I'll play it the end-of-show clip.
	It's just a long clip.
	Yeah, what I love what he did, though, is he overlaid the talking points of...
	I like that.
	...of the dingbat and carry.
	Yeah, no, and the banjo, that kind of does it for me.
	Ding-a-ling, ding-a-ling, stacks of dead children.
	Ding-a-ling, ding-a-ling, ding-a-ling, ding.
	Of course you can always have the moron down under, Kevin Rudd.
	Someone finally got the clip for me.
	I said at the outset that our intention is that Australia would be represented by the foreign minister, but I would continue to be in consultation with global leaders on this question.
	We are in uncertain times.
	That's just the truth of it.
	It would be quite wrong of me to pretend to interview that these are normal times.
	It is not normal for a government in the world to take weapons of mass destruction.
	Can you believe that he actually slipped on that one?
	Wow.
	What an idiot.
	What an idiot.
	Well, the quality is rough.
	It's rough getting stuff from...
	I don't know what's going on.
	I mean, I'm trying to follow the election there.
	Usually you can get your stuff from ABC, the Australian Broadcasting Corporation.
	They have a website that I've gotten clips from.
	Yeah, but this one was unfindable for some reason.
	So there's these two guys on our nation's treasure PBS NewsHour.
	Sowa.
	Sowa.
	And Shields and Brooks.
	Brooks is the guy from the New York Times.
	And he represents the Republicans.
	And Shields is the Obama bot.
	Or the O-bot.
	And we'll talk about it, I'm sure, later in the show.
	Yes.
	So...
	It's okay.
	Actually, it's not okay.
	It's just not okay.
	It's okay to be self-aware, but it's very embarrassing for quite a while.
	It doesn't stop.
	We've got Brooks.
	Here's what I've seen.
	I've never seen him do this.
	He looked extremely nervous.
	He wasn't in the studio.
	He couldn't be in the studio because Shields would be looking at him.
	And he was playing the role of an obot, even though he's a Republican.
	But it wasn't just that.
	He was delivering the talking points of one of the intelligence agencies.
	I realized watching this, he was so nervous about it and doing it so poorly because I don't think they called on him much because he's not like Woodward who does all these books.
	And he just seemed upset but I guess the call comes in and you're working for these guys and they said, look, here's what you have to do.
	You have to These are the talking points.
	You've got to get them across.
	You're gassing their own people, massacre.
	We've got to get these missiles launched because of this Raytheon stock.
	The stock is too high.
	We've got to blow some cork.
	Well, I don't know if as awful as that regime is, I'm not sure we necessarily want to topple it.
	The second thing is they're decision makers.
	So you're trying to change their calculus.
	If you raise the cost of doing what they're doing, there's a chance they won't do it again.
	That does happen, and it has happened many times in world history.
	They raise the cost, they don't do it again.
	Now there is a chance that they will do it again.
	And then we'll have to make another call.
	Do we want to escalate?
	And that's clearly a danger.
	But I do think the idea, if the U.S. says something about weapons of mass destruction, about whether it's in Iran or in Syria, and we do nothing, then the entire nonproliferation regime, which the U.S. has basically been leading for the past 70 or 80 years, that begins to fray badly, and the costs down the road are much worse.
	So raise the cost for Assad, and then see what happens.
	Wow!
	Wow!
	And you're right, he's doing it very poorly because he didn't even get Iraq in there.
	He's very nervous.
	I've never seen him so nervous.
	He's like, oh God, I have to do this.
	And again, why would you say, well, we're not trying to do regime change.
	We're just going to throw a few missiles there.
	It's only going to blow up land.
	It's just a runway.
	No one's going to die.
	So Shields, who's beside himself listening to this guy, because this is the arguments he should be using, took the other side saying, well, you know, it's an upside down world now.
	At one point he says, I think you're completely wrong, and it was a very strange debate, but play the second clip, and we hear a shields comes back.
	This thing went on for a long time, so I have it pretty short, shortened it up quite a bit.
	What about that, Mark?
	Well, I mean, I'm just not sure, Judy, how the costs are being raised.
	I mean, by simply hitting him with missiles one time, twice, what's been emphasized over and over again is how short this is going to be.
	It's not open-ended.
	It's very brief.
	We've gone through this.
	What the President is fighting is exactly what Prime Minister Cameron is fighting.
	And that is, it's the legacy, the poisoning of the well from Iraq.
	And it's only 11 years ago, this very week, that the Vice President of the United States said, I can assure you they have weapons of mass destruction, that Saddam Hussein is going to use them against us, against our allies, and against our friends.
	What I find interesting is that there's no Libya talk here.
	No, I want to say, you know, it's all, of course, you know, about Colin Powell and Condoleezza Rice and the Project for a New American Century and Bush, etc.
	But we're talking 2011, only two years ago.
	We went through this in Libya, and so far the result is weapons everywhere, dead ambassador, it's a mess.
	It's a fucking mess is what it is.
	And no one brings that up.
	I don't understand.
	Well, no, I do, of course.
	But, you know, obviously.
	You feign.
	I feign.
	Lack of understanding.
	I feign it.
	We feign these things, just to make a point.
	Yeah, exactly.
	So he goes on.
	So I'm thinking, there's more and more of this, and I'm watching the guy say, this is not sounding like the same guy.
	And then when he does clip three, and he drops this little bomb in there, I go, oh my God.
	I would say also that if we are in a period of permanent withdrawal from the Middle East, we'll have what has happened over the last, really, year in the Middle East, which is a devolution from the Arab Spring to the Arab Winter.
	In retrospect, and I was not a big champion at this at the time, but John McCain and Lindsey Graham had a point early on in this program, or in the progress of the Civil War, that if we'd been a little more interventionist back when the opposition was a little more moderate, a little bit more controllable, that would have been a good time to act.
	Wow.
	So he jumps on the Lindsey Graham, John McCain bandwagon?
	Nice.
	Yeah, that's the way to do it.
	And so finally we have the last clip of Brooks where he's already sold himself down the river.
	He's not even in the studios at Yale.
	And he just has to finish, I guess, with this.
	But what about Mark's point about having more of a coalition, having more countries?
	I mean, Great Britain is now...
	Not going to be on board.
	A number of other countries have said they won't join in.
	How much does it matter that there aren't going to be many allies?
	And certainly there won't be, at least apparently there won't be a UN signing off on this.
	Militarily, it doesn't matter at all.
	You can find some British and French sailors and stick them on the thing, but they don't really add much.
	These are American forces that only have the capacity to do this.
	John, this weekend, I'm going to go find me some French sailors and stick them on a thing.
	It doesn't matter.
	Normally, if it was actually Brooks talking, he would bring up the simple fact that it is illegal by international law that we've signed on to to do this.
	It is totally illegal.
	And the funny thing is we're scolding Syria because they're illegal weapons of gas.
	We're ourselves violating the international law.
	Nobody touches that.
	I got two words for you.
	Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
	That's one of the words I got for you.
	But there's nothing, nothing compared to the danger of grabbing a couple of French soldiers and sticking them on a thing.
	And I'll tell you, I'm glad I'm wearing my dress.
	As for international legitimacy, listen, guessing your own people is not a close call as far as I'm concerned.
	That demands a response.
	I thought that was pretty much settled since World War I. Wasn't it the Brits actually who used gas in World War I? Mustard gas.
	Yeah, it was the Brits, right?
	I think so.
	I think so, too.
	Countries don't want to sign on, and by the way, a lot do want to sign on, do support the idea.
	That doesn't seem morally problematic when you've got the atrocity and the case this clear.
	To me, the tough call, and I agree with Mark on this, the tough call is not whether some gross violation of international law was done.
	The tough call is whether what we do, lobbying a few cruise missiles, will do any good.
	And I'm perfectly persuadable that it will no good and lead to harm.
	That's not the right talking point.
	These are pinpoint accuracy.
	The idea that we should do nothing, that international law has not been grossly violated, that to me is a debate that's pretty clear.
	Oh, man.
	I mean, I'd be throwing stuff at the TV at this point.
	There's some meta things that I'm seeing going on here that I want to point out, John, and maybe that'll help us hone in a little bit.
	And I think you and I are pretty much in agreement.
	We know that this is, as the president misspoke at the beginning of the week, this is really about the free flow of energy in the region.
	Now, we know that that's really what it's about.
	We know that Israel has now become a net positive supplier with the Leviathan field up through Cyprus.
	It's competing with the Russians.
	We know that our fracking is supposed to compete with the Russians, with the Russian gas.
	Of course, our fracking isn't working out too well.
	It's a geopolitical struggle, which has nothing to do with so-called gassing of a couple of kids.
	Here's some meta information from the Federal Register.
	Arms Sale Notification.
	And this is end of July.
	Dear Mr.
	Speaker, pursuant to the reporting requirements, Section 36B1 of the Arms Export Control Act, as amended, we are forwarding here with Transmittal No.
	13.38 concerning Department of the Air Force's proposed letters of offer and acceptance to the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia for defense articles and services estimated to cost $1.2 billion.
	So we had a nice little sale.
	And this, of course, they always have to write down the specifications.
	Major defense equipment, zero billion.
	Other, 1.2 billion.
	Total, 1.2 billion.
	So we sent some other over there.
	I always love the other.
	Now, the thing that is...
	Oh, by the way, and this also kind of happened while we weren't paying attention, we're not doing buybacks, okay?
	Once you buy our crap, you're taking our crap.
	And this was slipped into a little ditty that Joe O'Biden came out with where part of this executive action, which is not an order, that's another interesting term the administration has come up with, executive action, Where you can no longer register certain types of firearms to a corporation or a non-profit.
	It has to be an individual who can be background checked.
	But who gives a crap about that?
	This is what blew me away.
	The second action we're taking is to prevent military-grade firearms from being re-imported back to the United States.
	Listen carefully.
	As all of you know...
	We sell military-grade firearms.
	And by the way, we're quite proud of it.
	We're very happy to sell crap to other people that kill people.
	Military firearms to our allies.
	That's right, to kill our enemies.
	To our around the world.
	And those firearms are not able to be imported back into the United States without U.S. government approval.
	So we've basically, we've said, all sales are final.
	You can't send them back.
	No, I think there's actually, I heard this and I was thinking, it always harkens back to my, I had a clip about four years ago, you'll remember it, where the Mexicans are confiscating all the guns from these guys and then grinding them up.
	And at the same time, and this is a point I've made a couple of times on this show, they grind up all these weapons that they confiscate, these submachine guns and everything else, and then they bitch and moan that they don't have any weapons to fight the cartels.
	Well, you just ground up a bunch of weapons you could have used to fight the cartels.
	So I always thought that was...
	This is about one thing and one thing only.
	More sales.
	More sales, especially domestically.
	You don't want people, you don't want to, this is what I think a lot of this gun act, besides trying to get Republican women to vote Democrat.
	More sales.
	You don't want, they can't do it yet, but they want to make it so it's illegal for me to sell you my gun.
	Yeah, exactly.
	That means that you have to go buy another gun that's brand new.
	Yes, it's more sales.
	More sales, this is a scam.
	Yeah, I love how Joe does it though.
	He comes across so funny.
	Now, here is the thing regarding Syria that I found rather interesting.
	This is reported in the Telegraph of the United Kingdom's Gitmo Nation East, that Prince Bandar is now on the scene.
	So, Prince Bandar bin Sultan, also known as Bandar Bush in the annals of history, he was the Saudi Arabian ambassador, and he essentially has been kind of the go-to messenger guy whenever we were doing our nasty business in the region.
	And there was even rumors that he was dead.
	He's made a resurgence.
	We haven't really heard from him since 2008.
	All of a sudden, he's back, and the message in the press is that he offered a deal to Russia that he said to Putin, he said, look, if you'll just let Saudi Arabia go, I mean, if you let Syria go, then we'll cut a deal with you, and we'll work with you on your global gas pricing, and we'll give you whatever you want.
	And I find this to be very interesting.
	I've not heard anyone in the press here talk about this, that Bondar is back.
	What have you seen regarding this, John?
	Nothing.
	Hmm.
	So here, I'll read from...
	I'm so stunned, stunned, I say, that Mukhtar Mukhtar is still floating around.
	I think I was shot.
	Makes no sense.
	So, and this is being reported in Middle Eastern press...
	So here is the quote.
	Let us examine how to put together a unified Russian-Saudi strategy on the subject of oil.
	The aim is to agree on the price of oil and production quantities to keep the price stable in global oil markets, is what Prince Bandar reportedly said to Putin.
	Now it is important to Putin, I think more for gas than for oil, but to keep that price up there because Russia still needs a lot of money in the process that they're in and they're rebooting essentially.
	And it looks like Putin turned it down, like he turned down any deal.
	And I have here some quotes from Putin, although it's too bad the guy doesn't speak English.
	This is kind of a downer because we always get the translated stuff.
	Right.
	I think Putin would be hilarious if he spoke English.
	Yeah, well, the translations are always kind of good.
	I would like to address Obama as a Nobel Peace Prize laureate.
	Before using force in Syria, it would be good to think about future casualties, Putin told Russian news agencies in Vladivostok during a tour of his country's flood-stricken Far East.
	Russia is urging you to think twice before making a decision on an operation in Syria.
	Let's see, what else did he say here?
	He says the Obama administration claims that proof exists but it is classified and cannot be presented to anybody.
	This is below criticism.
	This is plain disrespect for the partners, Vladimir said.
	We know of course that this is a war by proxy.
	with Russia.
	And, you know, if...
	Now, I'm going to say I have a feeling, John, that the president is going to get his permission from Congress.
	I think it's going to happen.
	Well, with guys like Peter King and these other apologists.
	No, it's not that.
	It is the apathy.
	The apathy of the American people.
	I don't know.
	I don't think so.
	I think it's going to be a tough go.
	No, no.
	Well, I'll tell you why.
	I'll put myself down for no.
	I'll tell you why.
	I saw it at our dinner.
	Oh, here we go.
	Now, I wanted to preface by saying that the friends we have over for dinner are our true friends.
	They know that I speak about our dinners on the show, and they know that I categorize them as Obama bots.
	Yeah, which we can actually shorten to Obots.
	I really like that.
	Well, I had to do Obots because I was running out of Twitter characters, so I just said Obots.
	You saw the tweet of the picture at the table?
	Uh-uh.
	No, Mickey did a great job.
	I'll go check that out.
	Yeah, so...
	So we're going to go into that before we go into any more Syrian stuff?
	We're going to talk about this?
	No, let's...
	Do you want to do it now?
	Just to break it up a little?
	Yeah, no, I think it's a good time to take a break and go into the...
	Obot stuff.
	Okay, Obot.
	Bring up my notes.
	So first of all, I tried a couple times during the course of the evening to spark up the Syrian conversation.
	Could not do it, John.
	Could not do it.
	What's your theory on this?
	Well, this is why I started as a complete apathy, tired of protesting, did my protesting when I was 20.
	I'm just repeating things I've heard.
	And, like, trying to distract the conversation to things like, hey, how about the administration not going after Washington and Colorado for weed, huh?
	I kid you not.
	I kid you not.
	I could not get a conversation about Syria started.
	It's called the Tenth Amendment.
	And I did bring that up.
	I saw this happen on the West Coast.
	Oh, that's great.
	It's great that they're not going to bust the chops of Washington and Colorado over marijuana.
	They don't have any right to in the first place.
	Except the holder actually said quite the opposite.
	Oh, yeah.
	Well, of course.
	What do you think he's going to say?
	I marked up the statement from the Justice Department in the show notes.
	You can take a look at it.
	But essentially it says, this memorandum is not intended to, does not, and may not be relied upon to create any right substantive or procedural enforceable by law, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada.
	Essentially it says, yeah, no, if you can't keep your people under control, we're going to come in and bust some chops.
	That's literally what this document says.
	If you've got people selling to minors, we're going to come in and we're going to occupy your state.
	Because heaven forbid, we know that nobody in Oregon wants to get any of that dope from those people in Washington.
	It's nuts.
	Especially around the Portland area.
	So, as the evening progressed...
	Oh, by the way, as a quick aside, I did bring up with our friend, the brain professor here at UT. You know, the thing we talked about on the show with the stunning new revelation where they were able to control one guy's brain, control this finger across the internet.
	Remember this?
	We talked about it on Thursday.
	Yeah.
	Here's what the professor said.
	Parlor trick.
	I like that.
	Yeah, so I thought that was good.
	Yeah, imagine.
	No, he says parlor trick.
	Whatever.
	He says parlor trick.
	Big deal.
	Yeah, same thing.
	So the feeling that I got is that the obots are drawing inward and they're only going to be concerned with themselves.
	They're locking out.
	It's kind of like sticking your fingers and you're going, not, not, not, not, not, not, not happening, not happening.
	That is the, a witness, the conversation about 23andMe came up.
	Are you familiar with 23andMe?
	Everybody's a big fan of this.
	Right.
	So, you know, now I know that, you know, our friends are...
	Well, I found out that my great-uncle's grandfather's father's father was a Visigoth, and he's subject to toenail fungus.
	So I've got to really be careful I don't get toenail fungus.
	Right.
	From my genes.
	My genes.
	Okay, so this is almost, almost exactly what was said.
	Except it was, you know, I shared my DNA. It's a social network you see.
	So I've shared my DNA. I found out I'm black.
	So anyway, so this goes on for a while.
	And I'm like, okay.
	And it's like, well, if you find out that you had BRCA, and we all know that's the Angelina Jolie breast cancer gene patented.
	You know, well, of course I'd have a mastectomy.
	I'm like, okay, you've got to stop now.
	You know, it's like, what I'm missing from your social network is, you know, where is the, you know, like, I'm going to live a happy, fulfilled life.
	No, there's none of that.
	It's all exactly what you said.
	Don't get the toenail fungus.
	They don't eat oysters.
	You know, I'm not kidding, John.
	Literally.
	Yeah, I know.
	It's horrible.
	It's like they're making worse than all the personality disorders you possibly have.
	This has got to be worse.
	Way beyond anything you could naturally develop.
	All right, so I'm pushing against this, right?
	And Mickey's pushing against it from her own...
	You know, Mickey is much more spiritually inclined than I am.
	And she believes in unicorns and rainbows, and I put it in the red book, and I promise we'll get it to her.
	However...
	At a certain point, it's like, you know, you're going to be doing this.
	You're going to have your D and Adam, right?
	You're going to do this because medicine, it's going to be tailored for you.
	They're going to make medication and it's going, you know, so, you know, I'm like, what, I'm going to live forever?
	And then here's the quote from the professor.
	It's just math.
	What?
	Yeah.
	So everything in the universe, every way you're related, everything that you have, everything that you might have, every way to fix you, it's just math, right?
	And I'm like, well, no!
	Show me the calculation!
	No, no, no.
	And we got into a heated argument.
	Like, no, it's just math.
	We haven't been able to do all the calculations yet, but you will live forever.
	It's just math.
	I don't know where this Live Forever thing has gotten so far.
	There's a billboard off of Highway 880 going south through Oakland that says, the first person to live to be 150 is alive today, indicating that there's somebody...
	This is not good.
	This is not a good development.
	Have you ever seen a person who was 110?
	You don't want to tongue him.
	You seem to be on this tongue theory.
	It's the dress.
	Anyway, so what I noticed is that this is kind of the direction it's headed.
	It's the quantified self, the transhumanist agenda.
	But also sticking your fingers in here, like, look, I protested against all this.
	I'm done.
	It's not my turn.
	I didn't do it.
	I'm going to check my DNA. And by the way, I got it'sjustmath.org.
	I had to get that one.
	I'll find a reason for this website eventually.
	And I think that this is, the apathy is just, it's there.
	Is just math.org available?
	Yeah, not.com, but.org was available.
	Well, still.
	It's pretty good.
	But that is the new thing.
	We've had, it's science.
	Well, okay, let's take a look at this objectively.
	First of all, we have these obots who are out there by the droves, and they all voted this guy in for all kinds of reasons.
	None of them were fulfilled, just a lot of promises and no.
	Apparently they're related.
	We're all African Americans now.
	Yeah, well, that's a good thing.
	Actually, technically, I think there's some truth to that.
	So whatever the case, it's beside the point.
	They have given up, literally given up hope.
	I mean, I can just see, this is again, I think of the book, The Beast in the Garden, about Nazi Germany in the 30s.
	You mean in the Garden of the Beast?
	In the Garden of the Beast, sorry.
	Don't eat your seed corn.
	It's that period where people were just, like, putting up with this encroachment and then giving up.
	These people just gave up.
	That is what I saw.
	Yeah, they gave up.
	They gave up.
	I'm done.
	I've had it.
	And, you know, they want to live to be, what, 150, but they just as soon, you know, die in a totalitarian system.
	Well, the thing is, you know, where was the...
	Some of the same people who had all the fire for the Texas abortion clinic legislation, the abortion legislation, who were all in and jumping around.
	But now when it comes to this...
	I think it's because they don't, you know, they don't have the information or it's too confusing.
	I think, you know, because even if you say, you know, so do you understand you got the Sunnis, you got the Shias, then you got, you know, the crazy Salafis who were thrown in by Saudi Arabia.
	This goes back to the Ottoman Empire.
	You know, this started in 700 and then...
	It doesn't, they can't process it for some reason.
	It doesn't take much to process arming ourselves to the hilt and then waltzing over to the Mediterranean and launching $1.4 million missiles by the dozens at some, essentially a country that can't defend itself, to punish them.
	You don't need to know about the Ottoman Empire to realize that this is insane.
	So, then I would say what is happening is that people of high intellect can't live with their inner self revolting.
	Against itself.
	Somebody at that party, who you've mentioned this before, who once said, I would never have dinner with a Republican.
	That wasn't one of these people, but yes, that person was not here, and it was, I could never have dinner with a Republican.
	Right, and so if you have that sort of mentality now having to deal with this Obama...
	And by the way, I believe...
	I think it shorts him out.
	Yeah, it is.
	I still think our O-Bot friends think we're secretly Republicans.
	Because they can't even...
	They can't even parse that I'm agnostic to it.
	That I'm not joining any club with stickers.
	Right.
	These Republicans are worse.
	Yeah, but you know what I'm saying?
	It's like, they can't even think that I'm just a free-thinking dude.
	No, it can't be done.
	You have to be part of a party.
	And by the way, when Mickey does this, it's sexy.
	Because, you know, here's this 6'1 Amazon, and she's got her heels on.
	She's 7 feet tall.
	And she's just, like, not having any of it.
	And that is the worst, because, you know, Republicans generally are ugly.
	So it's like they think we're Republicans, they know we're not, but then they see this and it's a mind, it messes with their brain.
	It really, really does.
	And I think for the first time it got a little ugly.
	Between you and the doctor?
	No, no, no, no.
	Just in general.
	Oh, because you think, well, maybe you shouldn't have even gone anywhere.
	You should have just let them talk about their...
	No, no, but...
	By the way, you know that 23andMe, or whatever it's called?
	Yeah, that's Sergei's ex-wife.
	Yeah, Sergei...
	That's how the conversation started.
	He dumped her?
	Yeah.
	For some young bimbo.
	Yeah, hello.
	Have you seen her?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	So anyway, that is what I have observed.
	I have observed that the obots cannot handle the obvious atrocity, will not rise in opposition because of whatever social pressures they feel.
	However, they identify very much with the technology of the age and the science and the math, and we're all related.
	We're all going to live forever.
	It's like magic.
	It's like alchemy.
	And as long as I can have some gadget that I can wear that will beep and tell me I'm doing okay, it's like they're falling for illusions.
	Does that make sense?
	It's weird.
	How was the meal?
	The meal was actually pretty good.
	So here's what we had.
	I decided to do something which John scoffed at.
	I made a watermelon gazpacho.
	And John was like, oh God.
	What a douchebag thing.
	I thought it was just a glass of watermelon juice the way you described it.
	It was a gazpacho.
	Watermelon gazpacho.
	And I have to say, I think I really nailed it.
	We should make that one of your house specialties.
	Apparently, it's actually a tomato-based gazpacho that has chunks of watermelon in it, which sounds like it might be tasty.
	So you have to get the mix just right.
	Of course, you're going to juice some watermelon, get some chunks of watermelon.
	It's also the lime and the white balsamic vinegar and salt.
	That's really the sea salt.
	That's the mix you've got to get right.
	You have to serve it with some...
	You've got to save some watermelon for the chunks.
	And then here's what I did.
	A little cilantro on top when I served it.
	And I put a swirl of coconut milk.
	And that was the hit of the evening.
	Now, you and I discussed, you had made for me a menu.
	I went against Sir Scott's, he had a whole Moroccan thing with lamb shanks.
	And from lamb shanks, you said, why don't you just do lamb chops?
	Hard to fuck it up.
	Guess what?
	I almost did.
	Strangely enough.
	How?
	I had him going too long.
	Oh, yeah.
	No, you can't overcook lamb too much.
	Right.
	So I marinated them and I got the fresh sticks of thyme and rosemary, which, I mean, the car still smells of it just from bringing it back from the grocery store.
	So I put that in with oil and with lots of garlic and I made a sappy juice and I marinated them and then I went back late.
	And it would have been perfect for two things.
	If I hadn't Let them cook.
	So they're a little overcooked.
	I mean, not horrible, but just a tad.
	And after, as everyone's leaving, I see sitting there the frickin' mango chutney.
	I never served the mango chutney with it.
	Oh, that would have saved it.
	I'm an idiot.
	That would have saved everything, because I still had some left, and I had it last night.
	We had it again, and it was dynamite with the Indian mango chutney.
	I paid attention to what you told me.
	Dynamite.
	Served that with mashed potatoes, and I found my mojo in the mashed potatoes.
	Oh, good.
	Found my mojo, lots of butter, but I also threw in a coconut yogurt.
	Oh, really?
	Dynamite.
	You know one of those little plastic things?
	Yeah, yeah, one of those containers.
	Yeah, so it has no yogurt in it.
	It's just like, you know, it has, you know, coconut, whatever.
	It's like non-dairy something or other.
	You know these...
	Not so-gurt.
	Why?
	No, it was not so-gurt.
	Yeah.
	You said throw in cream, and I came up with coconut yogurt, threw that in, a little bit of fresh nutmeg, and I actually called you, John.
	I said, how do I keep this going?
	How long will I need to keep it fresh, whatever?
	So I wound up making it, put it in the oven for about an hour and a half just on the warm, and it was nice and warm.
	Dynamite, dynamite, dynamite.
	Miss Mickey made broccoli, which I had steamed first, as you told me.
	Didn't boil them, steamed them.
	And she mixed in, she does like a wok thing with mushrooms and onions and whatever else.
	So that was pretty good.
	But the lamb, just a little bit, a little bit on the overcooked side.
	And I forgot the mango chutney.
	Yeah, the mango chutney would have made a difference because it adds some moisture to an overcooked product.
	Yeah.
	And in fact, it was an overcooked product.
	There you go.
	That's what I served them.
	But you know what?
	They deserved it.
	After the apathy and the 23 in me, I'm like, fuck it, I'm burning your lamb.
	I'm going to dry that shit right out.
	So, anyway.
	Well, that sounds like a huge disappointment.
	I was expecting it to be the highlight of today's show.
	I'm sorry.
	I think the 23andMe is quite a highlight, but it's a sad, sad, sad highlight that I could not spark them, John.
	I just could not spark them, and I really tried.
	It's like, uh...
	And, you know, Jen, one of the girls, I protested in college!
	I've had it with the protest.
	I will point out, Mickey and I are the only parents of the bunch.
	Okay?
	So the other two couples have no kids.
	And I think there's something to that.
	I have always thought that, yes.
	That, you know, it's like, uh, hmm.
	There's a lot of people have the, yeah.
	You get it, yeah, yeah.
	You know what I'm saying?
	Yeah, no, I know totally.
	I think anyone out there with kids and versus the, and of course it's insulting to the non-child or the childless couples.
	Right.
	It irks them to know when the people say, well, you're no better than I am just because you raised that brat.
	It's usually the comeback.
	Until you've had a kid on a leash, you can't talk about that.
	You don't know what...
	I'm going to show my support by donating to No Agenda.
	Imagine all the people who could do that.
	Oh, yeah, that'd be fab.
	Short segment today, so we might as well blast through it, thanking everybody who came in with some pecunias to help us out.
	So...
	We have Jeremy Johnson, $166.69 up there in Port Angeles, Washington.
	We should have him in the meetups we always commonly have up there.
	Thank you for the show.
	Congrats on six years.
	Hot Pockets 2010.
	You know, I'm talking to a company up in that area for the ultimate podcast device.
	Oh, good.
	To do manufacturing.
	Yeah, I think it's something you can sell.
	Yeah, maybe.
	We'll find out.
	I could probably use it.
	Yeah, yeah, probably.
	Andrew Largeman in Taipei City is back with $133.33.
	Do not let your Skype problem become the distraction of the week.
	Please use these funds to fix your connection.
	Well, apparently...
	Everybody's now convinced of this.
	Hold on.
	Hold on.
	Well, how coincidental...
	So what you were going to say is that a lot of people are convinced the problem is USB driver.
	Yeah.
	Well, how coincidental is it that we start the show with a new, fresh cable, which means it was unplugged and we haven't had a problem?
	Huh.
	Yeah, because maybe it's not an hour, it's maybe an hour and 20 minutes, so we still have, you know, start breaking up later, and then just unplug it and plug it back in.
	But it could be days.
	I mean, it could be, you know, you have the thing plugged in, the computer's on for days, and then, you know, you do the show, and then all of a sudden it starts.
	Yeah, it could be all kinds of stuff.
	Yeah, I know that, yeah, Leo's pointed this out on the Twitch show.
	He's commonly, people come on, and their connection goes to crap.
	They plug and unplug, and they're back, and it's never made any sense to me.
	Right.
	Right.
	William Johnson in Smyrna, Georgia, 101.
	Hey guys, tossing 101 your way.
	Took it out of his PayPal account and the $2.01 he made by selling off his Bitcoins.
	How much did he make?
	$2.01.
	Nice.
	That's not a full Bitcoin.
	I know that.
	Then we have Sam Menor, who will be a knight.
	He came in with $100 of Victoria, Australia.
	V-V-V-V-Vello.
	That's what I got.
	Yeah, that's what I got, too.
	And Eindhoven, $99.
	Do you have a note from him?
	Well, I don't think so.
	It must be...
	Oh, it's in the email.
	Uh...
	Well, no.
	Sander Hoeksbergen in Zandam, Netherlands.
	He did some well soon.
	He has a heart problem.
	We might as well give him a karma.
	His friend Andreas needs some heart karma and a dedouching for fellow producer Arthur Gobetz.
	Okay, so we shall do the dedouching first.
	So sorry.
	You've been dedouched.
	And here is the heart karma.
	You've got karma.
	Sorry about that douchebag thing.
	And then we have a handwritten note I'll read generally.
	And this is Wendy in Chicago, who also had a birthday last Sunday.
	Wendy Packard, 8132.
	And she says, newish listener hoping to go from pre-donor to pre-dame would like a birthday shout-out.
	She's got that.
	Also used some job karma.
	She's getting laid off on August 30th.
	Oh.
	That's no good.
	That sucks.
	She also says, keeping the NSA busy with my drunk tweets.
	She actually tweeted us during the show.
	Nice picture.
	You know what I'm saying?
	No, because I haven't spent it.
	You've got karma.
	Stop going because you groused about my tweeting somebody.
	I saw it earlier.
	Let's run through a few here.
	We've got a fact.
	I think there's a theme coming up.
	Michael Kearns in Fantasy City.
	Here's our 69-69ers.
	Michael Kearns, Kansas City, Missouri.
	As opposed to Kansas City, Kansas.
	You know there's a difference.
	There is.
	Mike Nikolichuk in Saskatoon, the Paris of Canada.
	Edward Hines in Jacksonville, Florida.
	The Paris of Jacksonville.
	Charles Walter, Schaumburg, Illinois.
	Joe Jose Gonzalez in Henderson, Nevada.
	This is where the smart money lives.
	And whoops, wait a minute.
	He's beyond the 69-69, dude!
	Whoa, it was a fourfer.
	That's all we got.
	Yeah, he says, this is Jose, and I'm going to read his note.
	I'm 13 in junior high.
	This summer I bypassed the airport security line twice by saying I couldn't raise his arms above my shoulder.
	It was sweet.
	I am sending 6,868 because my mom said I couldn't send 69,69.
	Mom, really?
	Wow.
	Send us a picture of your mom.
	So anyway, now we've got a 13-year-old.
	Yeah, well, you know what?
	Probably the smartest kid.
	Thank you very much.
	Thank you.
	Exactly.
	Matthew Davis in Raymore, Missouri.
	6666.
	These are our 6666 donors who are helping us celebrate their sixth anniversary of the No Agenda show.
	And I'm going to read off the names of this show's donors that contributed 6666.
	Gary Lader in Richmond, Virginia.
	William Jamison in Tulsa, Oklahoma.
	Kent O'Rourke in Frostburg, Missouri.
	Maryland.
	Maryland.
	Frostburg, Maryland.
	Maryland.
	He says our shows have been great recently.
	Todd Brink in New Berlin, Wisconsin.
	John White in Jackson, Tennessee.
	Rod Berry in Summersworth, New Hampshire.
	William Young in Lebanon, Tennessee.
	Chris Cowan in Austin, Texas.
	Kwong Lu in Santa Ana, California.
	Mark Heimerman has got a birthday coming up.
	We have him listed.
	Appleton, Wisconsin.
	Brian Ferguson, Foothill Ranch, California.
	Eric Wells in Jefferson, Georgia.
	John Pacifici.
	Pacifici.
	Yeah, in Tampa, Florida.
	Pass the fissy, will ya?
	And Tampa, Florida, of course, is the home of the lap dancers.
	Constantine Rakuten in Toronto, Ontario.
	Emmett Stewart in Orange Park, Florida.
	Paul Webb in Twickenham.
	Tim Connor in Edmonton, Alberta, where all the money is.
	Walter C. Nicholson in Shreveport, Louisiana.
	Peter Maurus in Elmhurst, New York.
	It's a good group.
	Jochem Denboer in South Yara, Victoria.
	Jochem Denboer.
	I can make you say anything.
	Sam Lung in Toronto, Ontario.
	Arthur Gobitz in Zandam.
	Zandam.
	Zandam, which means a big dam.
	He says, can we get some health karma to Andreas Luckfield, who's hooked up to a heart monitor?
	Oh, yeah.
	We just did that for Arthur earlier on, didn't we?
	For Andreas?
	Yes.
	I don't know.
	Did we?
	Yeah, it was...
	Am I nuts here?
	Hold on a second.
	second let me go back up um Zander Hoeksbergen Zander Oh, okay.
	These guys are all in cahoots.
	Yeah, I guess.
	I want to give it anyway.
	Please.
	We want the...
	You've got karma.
	We want to help people out.
	Anything we can.
	We have David Carey in Clement, Florida.
	Claremont, Florida, who needs to be on the birthday list.
	I don't see him.
	Is he on there?
	He had a birthday yesterday.
	No.
	Put him on.
	Okay, David...
	C-A-R-E-Y. David Carey in yesterday.
	Okay.
	Christopher Tramelling in Melbourne, Victoria, Australia.
	And that's our 6666 donors for this show, which is a good group.
	And we'll have another good group, I hope, on Thursday.
	And now we have Scott Schechei in Harwick, Pennsylvania, 5555.
	Joshua Bloom, Double Nickels on the Dime in Princeton, New Jersey.
	Steven Schwartz in Schvertz, Texas.
	Whatever that place, wherever that is.
	Brian Curry.
	Brian Curry's back from Connell, British Columbia, BC. Brian's got his email forwarding.
	He's happy.
	Beth Borazin in Tucson.
	She also sent in a note which says...
	Hi, old boys.
	Saw these and thought of you.
	That's right.
	She sent us each one car freshener thing that you hang from your car fresheners.
	Is there a special one?
	Mac and cheese.
	No.
	It smells like mac and cheese?
	Yeah.
	Nice.
	I'm sending them both to you.
	Wow.
	Who would want that?
	Eric Hochul in Berlin, Deutschland.
	The fragrance of poverty.
	Mac and cheese.
	Now for your car.
	James McClain in Ocean Springs in Mississippi.
	$50.33.
	And we'll give you some karma at the end.
	He's writing a dissertation.
	Mike Matteloni in Chicago, Illinois.
	Greg Brunstall in Kenosha, Wisconsin.
	Bruce Bradley, these are all 50s.
	Lawton, Oklahoma.
	And finally, a couple, Aiden Clark.
	Aiden.
	Aiden.
	Aiden Clark in North Lakes.
	Health karma for his wife.
	We'll be sure to add that in.
	And...
	Carl Barron in Malmo, Sweden.
	Cute little town.
	Mark Tanner in Whittier.
	That would be our group of...
	Drops were way off after that.
	Our group of well-wishers and producers and contributors for show 544.
	I want to thank every one of them profusely for keeping up the pace.
	And so there were a couple of health karmas, which is always sad when I see so many people asking for that.
	Also, we skipped over Mike Nikolajchuk from Saskatoon.
	He had quite a note there.
	He wanted some F cancer karma for his friend Max, who went from being healthy to having advanced inoperable cancer in his back and his lungs in one week.
	Wow.
	Yay.
	Fuck that shit.
	Exactly.
	Here we go.
	Fuck!
	You've got karma.
	And let that be a general health karma for everybody.
	And remember to sign up to 23andMe and find out what you can't eat, so you will live forever.
	Don't eat the oysters.
	Don't eat the oysters, everybody.
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	I'm using mutt.
	I'm sorry?
	I'm using Mutt.
	What do you mean Mutt?
	Well, ever since I set up my mail server again, now you can do stuff.
	Mutt.
	You don't know Mutt, the command line email program?
	Mutt?
	No, I do not know Mutt.
	Now as you mention it, though, it rings a bell.
	Mutt.
	Mutt is the bomb.
	The bomb.
	It really is, because you can put it in a terminal window and make the window big or small and...
	You know, it's using IMAP, so it's not local.
	It's great.
	It's just that I got my colors and everything, mutt.
	I think I'm slowly...
	The more I use, like, you know, GUIs and interfaces...
	When I was a kid, we used to have these GUIs.
	The command line.
	No, it's kind of nice.
	It really is.
	It's just you get things done so much faster.
	We work with a lot of these guys who are systems guys, and most of their time is spent on the command line because they can do so much.
	Faster.
	One long command.
	Yeah, with pipes and everything.
	There is a war on sysadmins, by the way.
	This is, I'm seeing this happen.
	This is, you know, this of course goes to our snow job department, where, you know, I guess this is another maybe Glenn Greenwald, you know, of course we're not really hearing much about Snowden now that we're, you know, attacking Syria.
	So, you know, to the back burner with all this.
	But, so here's the, you know, the news is like, headline, Snowden impersonated NSA officials, sources say.
	And so what they're now trying to, I think, move into the lexicon, into the conversation, is sysadmins bad.
	Because, you know, they have super user power.
	And they can pseudo anything.
	And they can look at anything.
	And I'm not quite sure what they're going to do.
	Because I find sysadmins to be the most trustworthy people in the universe.
	Yes, and you point out that they're the ones who look away when you type in your password.
	Of course, that's because they have their password already.
	You know what?
	Sysadmins are too busy doing things to care about your email and whatever.
	And, of course, the sysadmins are in the horrible position where they're the ones asked to do the dirty business.
	But I guess the idea here, I think, is we need to fire all the sysadmins, who, of course, are the only people that keep this crap running.
	This is the big mistake that's being made.
	Y'all know it's a huge mistake.
	I like it.
	It's like the Pied Piper story.
	Oh, tell me the Pied Piper story.
	You know, they get rid of the guy.
	The Pied Piper gets all these rats out of town.
	Yeah.
	Gets rid of the guy, and next thing you know, the rats come back.
	Oh, right.
	Right.
	Well, it's not the bugs.
	We'll call them bugs in this case, not rats.
	But it's a huge mistake because I think what they're going to try to do is either have, you know, it's going to be like you have to have two sysadmins and they'll both have to turn the key like nuclear codes or something.
	Which is...
	It's never going to work because there's no two sysadmins in the world that think alike.
	Right.
	It'll be like, well, I think I should turn to the right.
	I have a command line for my key.
	I don't know.
	It's like, I want to use the 128-bit encrypted key.
	Now, so, of course, that won't work, but also, you know, that means you have to find two guys at the same time, and when you need something done, you just want it done.
	This is a huge mistake, and they're probably going to try and automate a lot of this stuff.
	Well, you know, the management guys who are really close to these sysops or sysadmins and all the rest of them, they are easily sold, and I think a lot of CEOs are sold, on the idea that the new automated system will take care of this.
	This new software will take care of it.
	You won't need a sysadmin to use this software.
	Anyone can use it, you know, kind of thing.
	And this is what guys would think that computers are appliances.
	Oh, yeah.
	And, of course, what they'll want is they'll want to have, like, the CEO or the general or the Kaiser or whatever will have the keys, you know, and he's going to give him the pager.
	You know, in the middle of the night when something goes down.
	And then he's going to have to, you know, authenticate.
	It's a nightmare.
	But there is an actual war on sysadmins.
	I kid you not.
	It is taking place and it's a huge, huge mistake.
	Huge mistake.
	Yeah, just based on the one Snowden guy.
	Because of one guy?
	One guy with a conscience?
	Or it still may be a plant from the CIA into the NSA? I mean, we don't know any of this.
	No, but what you and I know is that there's so much money to be made, and all the contractors, they're looking for anything to make money.
	Cyber war?
	Okay, we're going to have cyber shields, we're going to have cyber fortifications, whatever word we can think up.
	And we can sell to the government.
	We're going to get it.
	What is Kaiser Alexander's budget?
	$18 billion?
	Yeah, he wants to create a cyber army.
	Then, of course, a note came out.
	Apparently, we've been attacking.
	We've been committing acts of war.
	Against numerous countries, commonly, through our computer systems.
	I'm surprised that nobody calls us out on it.
	But they don't.
	So, I got an odd clip back to the Syrian thing.
	You know what?
	It's time to test.
	It's time to test.
	You are now cutting out.
	Oh, okay.
	So, unplug your microphone.
	Tell me when you can tell when I... I don't know if that was intentional or not, but we did lose him.
	And let's see if he can reconnect.
	So the Skype connection remains in place, and I heard the click.
	You heard a click?
	Yeah, and you're back.
	And I'm back.
	Let's see what happens.
	All right.
	So this was about two hours.
	Of course, you had to reboot because something was wrong with your mouse before the show?
	Yeah.
	Okay, so it's about two hours.
	Dead battery.
	Oh, really?
	Yeah.
	I hate it when that happens.
	Well, it's rare.
	I mean, it's the first time I've ever changed a battery on the mouse.
	Okay, so we have...
	I found this to be peculiar.
	Now, if we're going to attack Syria, let's just say we were all in and we were just going for it.
	Whose side would we be on?
	We would be on the side of the Saudi Arabians and on the side of, crazy enough, Israel.
	Well, don't you...
	Well, let's...
	Okay, let me back up.
	You got two sides the way I see it.
	You got the Assad side and you got the rebels.
	Okay.
	Oh, you're just talking about Syria itself.
	Yes, that's correct.
	Assad and the rebels.
	Right.
	Whose side would we be on if we were bombing them?
	Side of the rebels.
	Oh, interesting.
	Then how do you make sense from this odd comment from one of the Iranian spokesholes?
	Oh, is this the woman's spokeshole?
	No, this is a man's boat, so they don't let the women speak.
	Yes, no, they just let the women speak.
	More later.
	Meanwhile, in Iran, a senior cleric said any military action by the U.S. is doomed to fail.
	If the Americans commit such a mistake of attacking Syria, they definitely won't achieve victory, and victory will belong to the resistance and the proud nation of Syria.
	Okay, hold on.
	So, who are we attacking?
	So, who are we attacking?
	Well, when I heard this, I went, this doesn't make any sense.
	Yeah.
	What's the deal?
	So something's up there.
	Okay, you know, you as a Middle Eastern expert, and I know you spent many years at the Brookings Institute, and of course your seat in the Council on Foreign Relations.
	I mean, are we not just doing Israel's bidding for them?
	Is that not what is happening here?
	Is that not just obvious?
	Am I crazy?
	Well, if you remember when this thing first...
	I guess within the first month of the...
	Conflagration, which began a couple years ago.
	And I looked at those pictures of some of the towns.
	It looked like Lebanon, which was really created, was messed up by the Syrians.
	I still think that this is a make-good, and the Middle Eastern is thinking long-term, a make-good for ruining Lebanon for all time, it looks like.
	And now their country is going to look the same.
	I think personally that's all there is to it.
	That's my opinion.
	It's just to make the landscape look the same?
	Yeah, so it's just a wreck.
	It's a mess.
	Bullet holes everywhere.
	It's like Detroit looks like crap, so we've got to make Kalamazoo look crappy too and just pull the plug on it?
	Yeah, that sort of thing.
	That makes no sense.
	How come you can't just answer my question?
	I couldn't.
	I just did.
	Do you think it's only because Lebanon is in shambles and Beirut looks like crap?
	I'm telling you, this is my oddball thesis.
	I know nobody...
	I'm just telling you what I think.
	Well, okay, fine.
	Alright, fine.
	Look, all I know...
	I think it is retaliation.
	But I think it's a different kind of retaliation.
	You can't remove Saudi Arabia from this equation.
	You can't remove Israel from it.
	You can't remove the Palestine conversation.
	I don't even know what to call that anymore.
	You can't remove any of that.
	I think, ultimately, if we follow your logic, then the end goal is to just have everything be rubble.
	Exactly!
	Okay.
	Rubble everywhere.
	All right.
	Well, good.
	Then I have nothing else to say.
	That's great.
	I do have a great new initiative, a commercial, and I would like to say right now, I would appreciate it, and you may join me in this, John.
	I would like everybody who can hear the sound of my voice to put my name up for nomination.
	For this new campaign.
	I submit my name gladly, and I hope everyone will submit my name on my behalf.
	Andrew.
	Sandy.
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	Katrina.
	Since 1954, the World Meteorological Organization has been naming hurricanes and tropical storms.
	But what did these people do to deserve having their names attached to this?
	As climate change continues to create more frequent and devastating storms, we propose a new naming system.
	One that names extreme storms after policy makers who deny climate change.
	We propose something like this.
	Senator Marco Rubio is expected to pound the eastern seaboard sometime early tonight.
	Windows are being boarded up and grocery stores are virtually empty as Marco Rubio threatens everything in his path.
	Now, Michelle Bachman is on the way, folks, and specifically the eye of Michelle Bachman will be hitting Florida in a few hours.
	Congresswoman Michelle Bachman is incredibly dangerous.
	If you value your life, please seek shelter from Michelle Bachman.
	Senator David Vitter is turning out to be one of the hugest and costliest disasters in American history.
	David Vitter is literally lifting boats out of the water and tossing them onto the land.
	In New Orleans, the levees that were built to stop Hurricane Colin Peterson have been obliterated.
	I'm here at the North Tier where Speaker John Vitter is really doing a number on this coastline.
	John Vitter is just destroying this town.
	Local animal shelters are under pressure as thousands of animals have been displaced or killed by Governor Rick Perry.
	This is the best commercial I have seen in a long time, John.
	It's great!
	And it just goes on.
	I mean, it's better when you see the videos, because they really did the whole newscaster thing.
	I would love to have a hurricane named after me.
	That would be great.
	Yeah, it would be, but...
	Clip of the week, by the way.
	Or clip of the day.
	Hit it.
	Really?
	Really?
	I've never seen this.
	It's hilarious.
	Well, that's very kind of you.
	I don't know if I deserve it, but I'll take it, of course.
	Clip of the day.
	Adam Curry's eye.
	It's genius by removing the entire conversation from weather is not climate, which is not...
	By the way, where's all the horrible...
	This is supposed to be the worst season ever?
	I'll admit Katrina, or Katrina, Sandy, which was not a hurricane, was not fun.
	But what else have we had since then?
	Isn't the season almost over now?
	It's been pretty mild, whatever's going on.
	But they've removed the conversation from...
	Oh, yeah.
	No, you can't keep the conversation consistent.
	It was funny.
	I forgot during the dinner.
	Because all of a sudden, it spiked back up.
	It's like 105 here in Austin.
	And it was really nice.
	We were down in the 80s.
	We were like, oh, my God, this is great.
	I'm running around town in my dress going like, hey, it's global cooling.
	I told you.
	And our guests come over and they look at me like, uh-huh, told you it was global warming.
	Yeah, because there's never been 105 in Austin in the entire history of mankind.
	No one's ever heard of hot temperatures in Texas.
	Oh, man.
	I do love them.
	I really, I love my friends.
	And I know they love us, too.
	I have to say that because otherwise, you know, don't...
	You're done.
	It was a good percentage of the show.
	Yeah.
	They don't donate to the show, by the way.
	Well, they're not donating any information, that's for sure.
	You've got to tell them they've moved up.
	They've got to step up their game.
	Step it up.
	Hey, no more free food for you.
	The next one is at the professor's house in November.
	It's going to be two months.
	Yeah, yeah, I've been there.
	It's a very nice house.
	Yeah, it's modest, modest.
	I got a clip.
	See if you can spot that there's a little kind of an interesting, you know, our thesis on the show is that people always tell the truth.
	You just have to listen for it.
	Yes, you just got to keep your ears open.
	And you'll hear it.
	It's always in there.
	There's a truth message in here.
	There's a Democratic congressman who's all in on punishing the Syrians.
	Yes.
	And he kind of phrases things in a funny way.
	I'm sure that somebody will say, well, you know what he meant.
	No, I know what he meant.
	Kind of like McCain's facade.
	Yeah, he meant one thing, but he said something else.
	See if you can spot it.
	Well, I don't disagree with Mack.
	I think the President has to come before the American people.
	I think what we saw Secretary Kerry do today was the start of that.
	I think the President, if he acts, and I believe he will, will explain what he's doing to the American people.
	I think this will be limited in scope.
	And it'll be done to show Assad that the gassing of his own people is not acceptable.
	This is a war crime.
	Those pictures of those children foaming at the mouth and dying, something that will live, in my mind, for the rest of my life.
	I just think there are certain things...
	Don't say anything.
	Please don't say a single thing.
	I need to listen to it again because I didn't hear it.
	So this is what happens.
	This is why we have two sets of ears, four ears on the show.
	Well, I don't disagree with Mac.
	I think the president has to come before the American people.
	I think what we saw Secretary Kerry do today was the start of that.
	I think the president, if he acts, and I believe he will, will explain what he's doing to the American people.
	I think this will be limited in scope.
	And it'll be done to show Assad that the gassing of his own people is not acceptable.
	This is a war crime.
	Those pictures of those children foaming at the mouth and dying, something that will live, in my mind, for the rest of my life.
	I just think there are certain things...
	It feels real subtle, but did he say that President Obama is doing this to the American people?
	Yeah!
	He says he's going to explain what he's doing to the American people.
	Yeah, that's what I heard, too.
	The proper phrasing is he's going to explain to the American people what he's doing about something else.
	But he said he's going to explain what he's doing to the American people.
	Yeah, yeah.
	It's a little bit there, but I heard it the first time.
	I didn't hear it the first time, but the second time, like, okay, I get it.
	Yeah.
	Well, this is the other guy.
	I mean, you can tell the difference, right?
	You're seeing it.
	Yeah, I'm looking at some aspects of the ear.
	I'm just looking at the attitude.
	That's all I need to see.
	Oh my God, the attitude is just crazy.
	Well, that could be because of drugs.
	Don't you think?
	Could be.
	I mean, these presidents that we've had, that's why they either drop dead or they turn gray.
	Oh, yeah.
	It's all the drugs.
	Yeah, they get shot up.
	They got drugged up.
	They don't get any sleep.
	Well, we know that the president has this chanting mantra crap that goes on, and he changes, and we've discussed this.
	In fact, the Democrat...
	Financier of the Democratic Convention was murdered because he saw this and told people about it.
	Remember this?
	Yeah, yeah.
	So Mickey had an interesting theory.
	You know, she studied for more than 10 years method acting, and she studied...
	You know, with one of the masters, you know, not Strasburg, he's dead, I think, but, you know, of this school, so it's Jung and it's, who's the other douche with the, you know, the Jung and, come on, the sex guy, the sex doctor.
	Masters and Johnson?
	No, no.
	No.
	Freud?
	Yeah, Freud.
	That guy.
	The sex guy.
	He's the sex guy.
	So Freud, Jung.
	Freudian.
	Jungian.
	And so she's studied for years all these sub-personalities.
	And this is her theory, and I like it.
	I mean, I like your theory much better that there's twins, and that's why the whole birth certificate is a problem.
	And one of these guys is on ice down there in the fridge at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, and this is the war guy.
	But she says you can have these, you know, this is how schizophrenia comes about, etc.
	But everybody has a sub-personality and you can get stuck in these and actors are trained to bring them out.
	This is why great actors, you know, they're so believable.
	And some of them, to follow up on that, some of them actually stay in character during the entire movie.
	And when they go home.
	Dustin Hoffman is famous for this.
	Remember when he used to win awards when he did Rain Man?
	He was still Rain Man.
	He never got out of that role when he accepted the Academy Award.
	It took him a long time.
	Stop, man.
	Chill out.
	He couldn't get out of it.
	But you can trigger these things through hypnosis, through drugs, and everyone has them.
	Everyone has the seven-year-old kid.
	Everyone has the warmonger.
	Everybody has the hope and change guy.
	And she says, this is just the same guy with a different subpersonality that is being massaged and trained by professionals.
	I'm like, okay, that's a reasonable theory.
	And I look at the guy, I'm like, my God, this isn't...
	Just go back and look at something from 2007 or 2008.
	Yeah, he looks the same, but phew.
	This is like the guy who's going to go kill people.
	And he thinks he's cool, too.
	He thinks he's okay.
	I'm in my right.
	That's the weird part.
	He's a constitutional lawyer.
	He says, okay, all right.
	It's Jill List.
	And he's supposed to get a kick out of it when he apparently watches a lot of these drone strikes and he just giggles.
	Well, you know what I'm missing?
	This is what I don't understand.
	You've got something going on and you need a distraction.
	Call Clooney.
	Where is he?
	Call Clooney.
	Where is Clooney?
	They need to bring some celebrities into this pretty soon.
	They need to bring...
	Here, this is the BBC report, which I found hilarious.
	George Clooney is a spy.
	Right.
	That's how it started.
	That sums it up.
	There's a sentence that needs a bit of qualification.
	What he does is he pays for a satellite that spies on Sudan.
	I think he's just keeping him for that, I guess, for Sudan, when we're ready for that.
	I guess.
	No, no, he's a Sudan guy.
	And I think that the way that news report was presented was to make it clear to smart money that George Clooney is a spy.
	George Clooney is a spy.
	That's an evergreen.
	You've got to clip that.
	That's good, isn't it?
	Yeah.
	We should combine it somehow.
	Let me see if I can combine it.
	If you play the George Clooney's theme and then hit that, I think it would work.
	Yeah, but I think there's something else.
	Do I have another?
	What is this?
	Is this also Clooney?
	Call me sir, goddammit!
	No, that's not Clooney.
	Okay, so then we do it like...
	George Clooney is a spy.
	You get some love.
	Yeah, I gotta work on it.
	I'll work on it.
	It needs a laugh track.
	Oh yeah, it needs a laugh track.
	Maybe I do it in the outro.
	Maybe that'll work.
	Yeah, that's better.
	Yeah, I like it.
	And stepping on the bass guitar is perfect.
	No, it should be right on top of it.
	And that's how we produce the best podcast in the universe.
	This is how we do it, ladies and gentlemen.
	Revenge porn, as we wrap up our serious show.
	Revenge porn.
	This is happening in your neck of the woods, actually.
	And I had it in the show notes on Thursday.
	There is legislation that has been introduced in California that will make it illegal for you to post naked photographic or videographic material of someone without their permission.
	Oh, that would be great.
	Even if you took it with their permission.
	Okay.
	So the idea is, and this is rather interesting that this conveniently happened to be a topic on Newsroom.
	Two weeks ago or whatever, three weeks ago.
	And I've taken pictures like this.
	So you're hanging out, you have your hookup, your girlfriend, your boyfriend, your wife, your husband, whatever.
	You take some crazy-ass shots, but then you break up or you get a divorce.
	And then you're so angry, like, look at this biatch!
	And then you post the naked pictures on the internet.
	That will become an offense.
	I'm not so sure.
	I find this...
	I think it probably has more to do with media somehow, or something with politics.
	I mean, it's going to be misused for something.
	But there's this woman, Holly Jacob, and she is the spokeshole for the movement...
	Revenge porn.
	In fact, she has...
	Let me see if I can find...
	What was the name of...
	Well, she mentions it in this report.
	She has a website and everything.
	What if you go...
	Let's look at the logistics of this.
	So I got some revenge porn, and I've decided I want to blow it out and point the finger at somebody for being a douchebag.
	And so I go set up one of these free websites out of the Ukraine, which apparently when anything happens out of the Ukraine, the law enforcement authorities just throw their arms up in the air and they say, we can't do anything.
	Well, I just posted there.
	What are they going to do about it?
	I'm not going to attach my name to it.
	Well, thank you.
	Thank you.
	So there's something else going on with this.
	I think so, too.
	It sounds like somebody's got some...
	You remember the time that they had those pictures from Abu Ghraib and then...
	Wow, John, I think you fucking nailed it.
	So there's something floating out there that has to be stopped before it happens.
	Yeah.
	This makes nothing but sense.
	Wow!
	Okay, well, let's look.
	You can go again.
	Okay, bud.
	Okay, pal.
	You can release that if you want.
	Oh, look at this law we just passed.
	You're going down for doing this.
	So Holly Jacob, and I'm going to play this report.
	So, of course, you see she's sitting there with her lawyer.
	The first thing I did while watching her was Google her picture, which is pretty hot, actually.
	I mean, they need to know that this is going on.
	They need to be aware that this is happening.
	Let's listen to this report the way you just...
	This is brilliant, John.
	Thank you.
	This is why we're the best podcast in the universe.
	Listen to this report as if she is letting someone know...
	That they better not be posting whatever they've got because of this law that's now coming onto the books.
	It fits right in now.
	They need to know.
	I mean, they need to know that this is going on.
	They need to be aware that this is happening and that you can't trust anyone with this kind of material until there are laws that are put in place to, you know, to...
	Because, Holly, of what happened to you, tell our viewers what happened to you.
	Yeah.
	I was dating somebody for three years.
	We were in a long-distance relationship.
	Meaning we were sexting each other.
	We shared intimate photos back and forth.
	Meaning she's got some.
	And right when we broke up, he changed my Facebook profile to a nude photo of me.
	Six months later, he posted several of those photos up on a website, amihotornotnude.com.
	And then...
	Right.
	Amihotornotnude.com, John.
	Years later, he made my material go viral when he found out that I was dating somebody new.
	He made it go viral.
	This guy is a genius.
	We need to hire him.
	Nobody cares.
	He posted these pictures along with my full name, my email address, the school that I attended, my place of work, and it was just terrible, devastating.
	So I imagine, I mean, when this happens, and you see, first of all, it's terrible in terms of the impact it has on you.
	Terrible.
	But he's encouraging people to harass you, right?
	I mean, that's what you say he was doing.
	Absolutely.
	I was receiving all kinds of emails from people that were viewing this material, all kinds of Facebook messages.
	I mean, I had to change my email address eight times to stop these harassing emails from coming in.
	I had to just completely disconnect and take my Facebook profile down, my Twitter profile down.
	Oh, I can't live.
	I had to take my Twitter profile down.
	I was getting harassed in reference to this material.
	Now, the ex-boyfriend here is denying these charges.
	Is that correct?
	Right.
	Correct.
	What about you?
	You are taking legal action?
	Yes, I'm taking legal action with a civil suit against him.
	I'm also, I had a criminal case picked up where he's being, cyber stalking charges are being pursued against him.
	And I also created a website where I'm collecting signatures to petition to change the laws.
	And that's what you saw before, what you had up before, endrevengeporn.com.
	So I really urge people to visit that and sign my petition because what's happening is not right.
	This is a form of domestic violence.
	It needs to be stopped.
	It's not okay.
	It's domestic violence.
	That's one hot baby.
	Well, you know, first of all, it's not that hard to find her pictures.
	They're great.
	They're great pictures.
	They're not porn.
	No, she has nothing to be embarrassed about.
	And she's not doing anything to herself that's porn-ish.
	No.
	And this is another one of these, this theme that we've spotted years ago, and might as well bring it up again, which is that nudity is not pornography.
	Exactly.
	Thank you.
	That's the only way I was going to take it, but you brought in the whole someone's got something.
	Well, I think there's something else to this, because generally speaking, people don't go this far unless there's somebody backing them for some other reason.
	Right.
	She's a front man for whatever's going on that we have to be looking for.
	She's got a lawyer there and everything.
	Yeah, no, there's definitely something going on.
	But for her to then call it, what, spousal abuse?
	Is that what she said?
	Domestic violence.
	Domestic violence.
	Even worse.
	Yeah.
	And she should be proud as a hot.
	Nothing wrong with that.
	Yeah, but I think you want to be hot on your own terms.
	Oh.
	Okay.
	Well, I'm just saying.
	Just saying.
	Yep.
	All right, well, I have a clip that we don't have to play.
	Actually, let's play this clip.
	I have the dingbat.
	Oh, this would be our blonde dingbat from the Departments of State.
	Yeah, and she stumbles around here, and this is a clip called Words Do Not Matter, and she's either using the wrong – she's setting structures falling apart.
	There's something she says in here.
	Now, this is a clip that – well, just play it.
	We'll see if we can figure out what it is.
	It's an interesting fact that today, a week after this attack, he says they should be allowed in when every single step the Syrian regime has taken up until this point has been to actually stall and stymie this investigation.
	So the words speak much quieter than actions.
	I think actions here are what matters.
	Hold on a second.
	I need some revenge porn from her.
	Please.
	And every action from the Syrian regime has been that they will not cooperate with the UN investigation.
	Do you think they're trying to stall a response to...
	What you describe as the massive use of chemical weapons?
	I don't want to venture to guess why they're doing what they're doing, but I think it's clear that we will not allow them to hide behind a U.N. investigation into the use of chemical weapons to prevent any response from the United States.
	Have you received from the U.N. its assessment?
	I don't know the answer to that.
	I can look into it.
	Because if you haven't, why would you argue that they are hiding behind that?
	I mean, you yourself repeatedly called for the UN investigation.
	We did.
	Well, the Syrian regime is trying to hide behind it because they keep...
	She's no match.
	She's no match.
	By the way, in our end of show clip, which producer Drew put together, there's a lot of her in this.
	So much so, in fact, that I didn't even pull clips from some of her crazy-ass press conferences.
	The problem with her, she thinks she can handle it.
	She was like the spokeshole for the CIA. Here's the question.
	I'll be the spokeshole for the CIA. Ask me something.
	So do you think that Assad has actually gassed his own people?
	We have no comment on that.
	No, you got to do it a little differently.
	She does more like, I am not going to comment from the podium.
	All I can say is not that.
	It's classified.
	I'm not going to comment on that from the podium?
	They're always talking about the podium.
	Yeah, but I think she's actually, I think that's the first time she's actually talked.
	I would like to see her as the spokesman for the CIA and see if she ever said anything.
	Or maybe she just wrote press releases.
	I've never seen a CIA press conference where somebody's up there answering questions.
	Have you?
	Well, let's, hold on, what's her name again?
	Her name is Harf, Heath, Harf, what's her name?
	I don't know.
	Oh, come on.
	We need her name.
	I can't, like...
	Spokes...
	Person...
	Well, if you just go to video.state.gov, which is...
	My browser, believe me, knows that website.
	It autofills everything.
	Marie Harf, I think it is, isn't it?
	Yeah, something like that.
	Let me see here.
	Briefing, August 29th.
	Uh...
	Marie Harf.
	Yeah, okay.
	Marie Harf.
	Now, here's what we do.
	Here's how you do it.
	You go to c-spanvideo.org and you type in Marie Harf into the search, which will...
	The results always suck, but then you've got to hit people.
	And then there's Marie Harf, bio page, and there's her appearances.
	And we can go to oldest.
	And nope!
	Oldest on C-SPAN is July 20th.
	She came from nowhere.
	July 25th is the oldest on record, so that's the first time we've ever seen her, I guess.
	Yeah.
	Interesting.
	Let's try Marie Harf CIA video.
	I'm just trying this quick little Googles.
	You know what?
	Who knows?
	Who knows?
	No, I think you're right.
	I don't think she's ever been in the public eye.
	Yeah, no, she thinks she's a hot shot because you can tell that she doesn't realize she's being made a fool of by a couple of these guys.
	By the best podcast in the universe.
	And us, of course.
	I'm talking about the guys in that room are literally ridiculing her.
	And she doesn't have the nastiness of that other woman.
	She seems like she just thinks she's smart.
	Well, where is Jen?
	It feels to me like both Jen, Psaki, and what's his name?
	Carney.
	That they're hiding.
	They're like, I don't want to do it today.
	You go.
	I think Saki's probably working at a coroner because she likes to disassemble corpses.
	I collected five feet today.
	Because she has no soul, is that why?
	All right.
	Okay, so as we wrap it up for today, John.
	Yes.
	And do you have one more thingamabobby or are we going...
	I think I'm good.
	I got the Holand clip, which is just like, eh.
	You don't need that.
	And they're gassing their own people.
	I got another clip.
	But I still have this one clip.
	We're not going to play it on this show, but I kept it in abeyance, which is the scam of the 1990s.
	The H&K. I want you to hold on to that for Thursday's show.
	Can you do that?
	Yeah.
	And there's even more information about this that's even more discussed in the clip itself.
	Alright, so looking at Thursday's show, Thursday will be the 5th of September.
	Am I correct?
	Yeah, the 5th of September.
	Have we sent Raytheon to steal towards Syria, yay or nay?
	I'm saying nay.
	Nay.
	Have we had a vote by then, yay or nay?
	Nay.
	Nay, okay.
	September 11th, that would be a nice symbolic day to do it.
	Yeah, and a lot of people pointed that out to us.
	September 11th is coming up.
	This is a good time to bomb somebody.
	It would be a good time for someone to do something so we then could bomb.
	Right, so we are coming up on the 11th, which is the day of the six-week cycle.
	Oh!
	All kinds of action, yes.
	Okay.
	Coincidentally, it's the six-week cycle coming up.
	Don't know if there's a coincidence there.
	The stuff's going to be a-popping.
	All right.
	Well, we will be here.
	Please support us by going to Dvorak.org slash NA. You can't get this kind of analysis anywhere else.
	And hopefully we made you chuckle at least once or twice.
	If you've got any revenge porn, send it to me, adamatcurry.com.
	And we will be back on Thursday.
	Coming to you here from the Travis Heights hideout in the morning, I'm Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley, I'm John C. Dvorak.
	Final clip done by producer Drew.
	Thank him so much.
	And we will talk to you again on Thursday right here on No Agenda.
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	The images of entire families dead in their beds without a drop of blood or even a visible wound.
	Bodies contorting in spasms.
	Human suffering that we can never ignore or forget.
	The CIA's drone campaign in Pakistan has killed dozens of civilians who've gone to rescue victims who were attending funerals.
	Anyone who could claim that an attack of this staggering scale could be contrived or fabricated needs to check their conscience and their own moral compass.
	Between 282 and 535 civilians have been reported as killed, including more than 60 children.
	Everything these images are already screaming at us is real.
	And with our own eyes, we have all of us become witnesses.
	We have additional information about this attack and we will provide that information in the days ahead.
	The world doesn't need a classified U.S. intelligence assessment to see the photos and the videos.
	Our sense of basic humanity.
	is offended not only by this cowardly crime.
	At least 50 civilians were killed in follow-up strikes when they'd gone to help victims.
	More than 20 civilians have also been attacked in deliberate strikes on funerals and mourners.
	But also by the cynical attempt to cover it up.
	I want to make sure that people understand actually drones have not caused a huge number of civilian casualties.
	At every turn, the Syrian regime has failed to cooperate with the UN investigation, using it only to stall and stymie the important efforts to bring to light what happened in Damascus in the dead of night.
	Meanwhile, the American Civil Liberties Union filed a case last week to force the Obama administration to release legal and intelligence records related to the targeted killing of US citizens in drone attacks in Yemen last year.
	The lawsuit charged the Justice and Defense Departments and the CIA with illegally failing to respond to requests made in October under the Freedom of Information Act.
	Their response needed to be unrestricted and immediate access.
	Failure to permit that, I told him, would tell its own story.
	But make no mistake, President Obama believes there must be accountability for those who would use the world's most heinous weapons against the world's most vulnerable people.
	Based on the fact that they used chemical weapons in an indiscriminate manner with respect to civilians, which is a general law of war that countries have agreed to, and it is a clear violation of international law.
	Syria, to the best of your knowledge, ever agreed to that?
	I believe that it is a general law of war that governs all conflicts, and so therefore they're in violation of it.
	Again, it's a gross violation of that international law, and I'm not going to do more legal analysis than that.
	What law?
	Can you point to a specific law?
	I'm not going to do a more detailed legal analysis.
	Nobody's asking you for detailed legal analysis.
	This is a very simple and undetailed question.
	What piece of paper are you talking about when you talk about that piece of international law?
	Well, there is a general set of rules that govern conflicts.
	Do you believe that he ordered this attack?
	I don't know the answer to that.
	And again, I just actually don't know the facts.
	Let me make sure I understand.
	It does not matter whether President Assad himself gave an order to use chemical weapons.
	He is responsible for their use.
	It doesn't matter, is that correct?
	He's responsible either way, yes.
	So if some rogue officer did this, it's still his responsibility.
	That's, well, A, yes, but that's also a wildly conjectureous question that I think in no way there's evidence it's supporting right now.
	I'll stick with A.
	Was the U.S. use of nuclear weapons resulting in the mass and indiscriminate killing of civilians in both Hiroshima and Nagasaki a violation of the same international law that you're referring to?
	I'm not even going to entertain that question.
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