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	Come on down!
	All right, are you ready?
	Give it a good spin.
	Adam Curry, John C. Devorak.
	It's Sunday, June 2nd, 2013.
	Time for your Gitmo Nation Media Assassination Episode 518.
	This is no agenda.
	Thumbing through my favorite magazine here in Travis Heights, hot out in Austin, Texas.
	In the morning, everybody.
	I'm Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley, where I'm reading the New York Times, I'm John C. Dvorak.
	It's crackball and buzzkill.
	In the morning.
	Shut up!
	Wow, I had time to turn a 747 around in the hole you left there.
	Yeah, apparently.
	Did you do it?
	Did you turn around to 747?
	Yeah, I sure did.
	Yeah.
	It's a figure of speech, amigo.
	So it's out!
	It's out!
	It's out!
	I'm so excited!
	What?
	What do you mean, what?
	What's out?
	You're kidding me, right?
	You're not doing that again just because Mickey's gone.
	No, not that.
	Not that.
	By the way, what are you talking about?
	Actually, I don't want to know.
	No, it's Inspire Magazine.
	The new edition is out.
	I'm so excited.
	Have you not been thumbing through your copy?
	It's propaganda written by one of the agencies.
	No.
	Special Ops.
	Well, I figured it would be interesting today to kick off the show by showing people that this is indeed exactly that, a special up.
	And it goes all the way back to two weeks ago.
	We could have known this thing was coming.
	And it has actually turned my head into...
	I focus more on some things that will give us information days, if not weeks ahead of time.
	Oh, you think it's like a book of codes or something?
	No, it's not even...
	If you want to hide something, you do it in plain sight.
	It's much easier than that.
	I'm all ears now, now that you've got my attention.
	Well, first, of course, whenever something breaks, we know you've got to go to Brolf and Babs.
	This is the latest version of Inspire, the magazine published by Al-Qaeda.
	Hold on a second.
	Yes?
	She has a job in broadcasting?
	No, this is Barbara, whatever her name.
	This is the...
	Who do you think it is?
	I don't know.
	Somebody is with a...
	She's just got a...
	She sounds like an Elmer Fudd.
	Who is she?
	That's the Pentagon correspondent for CNN. Barbara.
	Barbara, whatever her name is.
	You know, horse face.
	And she talks like this on network?
	We've played her before.
	Do I always bitch about it?
	Never.
	Huh.
	So she's at the Pentagon in the Pentagon studio.
	They have a little closet there.
	And so that's where, you know, they just sit there.
	The reporter's waiting and someone comes along.
	Hey, Barbara.
	Here it is.
	Here's what you talk about now.
	Oh, it's the new Inspire magazine.
	Oh, the ink is still wet.
	All right, here we go.
	Arabian Peninsula.
	And much of it, including this article titled The Inevitable...
	I love this report!
	Hold on a second.
	Does the magazine have explosives built into it?
	This is a good report.
	This is well done.
	And I have to say, the new guy, Zecker, he's doing a good job because this is done live.
	This timing of the explosion and the video that goes along with it was timed perfectly on cue.
	Because this is not a prepackaged report.
	This is Barbara live getting tossed to from Brawlf.
	And it's very good.
	...is cruelly devoted to the Boston Marathon bombing.
	What it tells you is this group, Al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula...
	Now, this is where I got my first clue.
	All of a sudden, this magazine comes out and this douchebag starts showing up everywhere.
	This guy, this British guy...
	...is opportunistically trying to take advantage of this attack.
	The magazine calls the Tsarnaev brothers, quote, brilliant in carrying out the attacks which Al-Qaeda says were, quote, an absolute success.
	The magazine mentions Copley Square, Fenway Park, and Boston University.
	It says these heroic bombings have exposed many hidden shortcomings of the American security and intelligence system.
	Okay, so she goes on for a little bit there talking about this fantastic article that was written in Inspire Magazine.
	Now, what bothered me is all of a sudden new people appear on the scene.
	Guys you never see or you might remember them, but whenever a dude with a British accent shows up, danger.
	This is when your bullcrap-o-meter should be flying off the scale.
	This guy's name is Paul Krukschak.
	And you write that C-R-U-I-C-K-S-H-A-N-K, Crookshank, I guess.
	Crookshank.
	And he has his own...
	This guy...
	Educated Georgetown University, by the way, is a member of the Center for Strategic and International Studies CIA Think Tank.
	So then he appears on Jake Tapper, and this is where he...
	I mean, it's almost like...
	Now, of course, people who are listening to the No Agenda podcast know how to listen to these things.
	He is not just discussing this magazine.
	He is promoting it.
	He is emphasizing every single word that needs emphasizing, particularly the title, but all the great things this magazine has to offer.
	He is, in effect, reaching out to you and asking you to go find this magazine.
	Well, Jake, they're trying to capitalize on this to inspire more attacks, they're saying.
	See, already it's like, to inspire more attacks.
	He's already using the title in his vernacular.
	We inspire this.
	Our magazine inspired this.
	These two brothers downloaded bomb-making instructions from our magazine, and they then carried out this attack.
	This can show our followers in the West what they can be capable of, these type of lone wolf attacks.
	So they're trying to inspire more of this kind of terrorism.
	Can you say...
	By the way, how can two guys be a lone wolf?
	Can you explain that to me?
	I know.
	That's fantastic.
	And they also talk about, in this magazine, the machete attack in the UK. That's a pretty quick turnaround.
	This is where I was like, that's funny.
	Yeah, these guys got a great operation.
	They got a whole staff.
	This is awesome.
	To put that out.
	Explain that, why that propaganda...
	Explain how you do that there at headquarters.
	I mean, how Inspire does that?
	...and to value so important to talk about all these different events and current events.
	Well, that's a very quick turnaround.
	That was just about a week ago.
	God damn, it took us such a long...
	It was really hard to get it done on time.
	They put that out very quickly.
	They feel this is another victory for them.
	This is going to inspire more of these sorts of attacks.
	They also refer to...
	Can you use the word inspire one more time, do you think, John?
	Is it possible that he does it yet again?
	No, it's not.
	Impossible.
	An attack against a French soldier in Paris on Saturday.
	So very recent events mentioned in this Inspire magazine.
	This is propaganda to encourage more lone wolf style terrorism.
	At this point I'm like...
	In the West.
	They recognize this is very hard to protect against.
	So you've got just two or three people launching these attacks and they don't have connections to overseas terrorist groups.
	They're saying...
	Okay, so this is kind of the payoff where he's saying it's like, you know, this is impossible to protect against.
	Come and join us.
	Don't come and train with us.
	Stay home and we'll give you the instructions you need to carry out these attacks.
	Okay, perfect.
	So then Jake has two other shills on.
	And again, these are totally new guys!
	So I think that the CIA just opened up the door to the department, and this is the entire editorial staff of Inspire Magazine on CNN. It's just like, hey...
	Guys, go ahead and promote it.
	We got the new issue.
	It's on stands now.
	Go!
	I want you to stay here for a minute while we take a look at another developing part of this story.
	New evidence today that the Boston bombing is already becoming a key recruiting tool for al-Qaeda.
	The terror plot is front and center in the latest issue of al-Qaeda's English language magazine.
	It's English language.
	Do you hear that?
	English language.
	Oh, that means I can go get it and read it in English.
	I thought it was in Arabic, so I didn't bother before.
	But now that I know it's in English, I'll get a copy.
	The magazine praises the Tsarnaev brothers as heroes and encourages readers in the United States to follow their example.
	As it says on page 17...
	Oh, hold on a second.
	Let's go to page 17.
	Are you there?
	Follow along at home, kids.
	Quote, the Boston bombings have uncovered the capabilities of the Muslim youth.
	They have revealed the power of a lone jihad operation, unquote.
	The magazine also highlights the attack in London, another recent lone wolf-type terror incident.
	So, Tim, I want to bring you back here.
	Today, the State Department submitted this report on terrorism to the U.S. Congress.
	The key line in the first paragraph of Chapter 1, The AQ Corps' ability to direct the activities and attacks of its affiliates has diminished as its leaders focus increasingly on survival.
	This would seem to speak directly to what we're seeing in this latest issue of Inspire the Threat.
	Al-Qaeda is now pushing is these lone wolf homegrown attacks.
	Is this, in your view, the real future of Al-Qaeda terrorism?
	I believe it's been the past and the future of Al-Qaeda.
	Al-Qaeda has never been about regimented attacks.
	Anybody pronounce it the same way.
	Impossible.
	Although they have planned long-term planning for attacks like September 11th, that's not the norm for them.
	The norm for them is radicalizing individuals.
	Who are these guys?
	These are not experts.
	These are CIA agents.
	Did you take a look at Paul Krushank's bio?
	Yeah, I looked at it.
	He's got a web page.
	Yeah.
	And it's all about Al-Qaeda this.
	I wrote the book on Al-Qaeda.
	I did this.
	Al-Qaeda, Al-Qaeda, Al-Qaeda.
	I'm super Al-Qaeda.
	This guy, I think he is Al-Qaeda.
	Now...
	He looks like...
	He does look like a...
	He looks like MI6. Oh, come on.
	He was born to do this.
	His entire page is all about him and Al-Qaeda.
	So...
	Then I'm like, you know, I... It's a very weird page.
	It's just a bunch of bull crap.
	But anyway, go on.
	So then I, and I've done this a couple times in the past few weeks, and we need to really pay better attention to what the president says.
	Remember the 3D printer thing?
	It was mentioned in the State of the Union.
	We completely missed it.
	Boom, there's a 3D printer thing.
	Well, boom, it took a couple months.
	But the speech he did that was interrupted by the Code Pink Lady, even we were distracted and focused on the Code Pink Lady more than anything, particularly what the President was actually saying at the time.
	Now, we did catch the Shield Law thing, but did you catch everything he said up until the Shield Law thing?
	Well, I'm assuming by the fact that you're asking the question in such a way that I don't know what I'm doing.
	I have foiled you again!
	Yeah.
	Well, it's called a setup, John.
	It's a setup.
	And now that you've given me the setup, I would have to say, no, Adam, I don't know what he said before then because I was so distracted.
	Exactly.
	Effective partnerships, diplomatic engagement, and assistance.
	There's a couple things in here that we're going to find.
	Through such a comprehensive strategy, we can significantly reduce the chances of large-scale attacks on the homeland and mitigate threats to Americans overseas.
	First of all, I just want to pause.
	You know, it's become normalcy now, but calling America the homeland is still a very weird thing in my mind.
	I did not grow up calling it our homeland.
	Nobody called it the Homeland.
	Until we had Homeland Security, of course.
	Right, Homeland Security started calling it the Homeland.
	But again, we were talking about this for the last month.
	If you're in the middle of the Nazi regime in the 30s, the fatherland.
	Yes, that's right.
	I don't believe that the Germans used that term.
	I don't know, but I'd have to do a little research.
	But it sounds to me, because it seemed to have just showed up.
	And then it was the fatherland.
	Now we're the homeland.
	Okay, same thing.
	We're right on the parallels.
	As long as you stick to these parallels.
	And I have been reading my Beast book, by the way.
	Oh, my God.
	It's amazing, isn't it?
	No, no.
	Yeah, it is.
	You shouldn't read it alone at night in bed, essentially, which is what I did.
	It was a big mistake.
	All right, let's continue.
	But as we guard against dangers from abroad, we cannot neglect the dawning challenge of terrorism from within our borders.
	There we go.
	Now, remember, this is a week and a half ago or a week ago?
	A little over, just a week ago.
	This is before Inspire Magazine came out.
	As I said earlier, this threat is not new.
	But technology and the internet increase its frequency.
	And, in some cases, it's lethality.
	Lethality?
	Is that a word?
	Lethality?
	I think it is a word, but I don't know why anyone would use it.
	Lethality!
	I tell you, lethality, everybody.
	Today, a person can consume hateful propaganda.
	Commit themselves to a violent agenda and learn how to kill without leaving their home.
	Is this a great country or what?
	I mean, this was always possible.
	You could always do this.
	You get a book.
	You read a book.
	Someone hands you a book.
	It comes to your door and says, here's a book.
	You read the book.
	There's a bunch of books that were written that have all this stuff.
	But there are key words here.
	I remember in the 60s there were such books.
	But there are very key words here like hateful propaganda.
	Hateful propaganda is not illegal, okay?
	There's lots of hateful propaganda.
	In fact, our government does it all the time.
	This speech is partly hateful propaganda about threats from abroad, and well, let's listen on.
	To address this threat, two years ago, my administration did a comprehensive review and engaged with law enforcement.
	And we read the document.
	And the best way to prevent violent extremism inspired by violent jihadists is to work with the Muslim American community, which has consistently rejected terrorism, to identify signs of radicalization and partner with law enforcement when an individual is drifting towards violence.
	So, what does that mean exactly if you're drifting towards violence?
	Like, I'm standing over here and like...
	Hey, look at him.
	He's drifting.
	Where's he drifting to, Bill?
	He's drifting toward violence.
	Get law enforcement!
	That's called pre-crime.
	If you're drifting towards...
	That's pre-crime, right?
	Yeah, you're drifting toward violence.
	How does that even work?
	How do you...
	Identify somebody drifting toward violence because you drew a picture of a gun like a little kid would do.
	Little kids are drifting toward violence.
	They're drawing guns.
	They're playing cowboys and Indians.
	You're not on course.
	That means you're not on course on the path.
	Or now, all of a sudden, you've joined a rifle range.
	Oh, you're drifting.
	You're drifting towards violence.
	And you're practicing shooting a.22 or maybe a.30-06 and then maybe a shotgun.
	We get the point.
	We get the point.
	Drifting is not a state.
	Drifting, in fact, is what leaders do.
	You drift off the path to find new and exciting things.
	It's how our minds come up with new creative visions that have never been invented before.
	If we all stay on the path, stay on course, we're all going to be boring slaves and come up with nothing new and cool.
	You've got to find the boundaries.
	And these partnerships can only work when we recognize that Muslims are a fundamental part of the American family.
	I don't know, this whole Muslim thing, I'm not quite sure why this was necessary, but he felt it was.
	In fact, the success of American Muslims and our determination to guard against any encroachments on their civil liberties is the ultimate rebuke to those who say that we're at war with Islam.
	Okay, I know why he's doing it.
	Catch him off guard.
	He's going after the Muslims.
	That's what I thought.
	That was the first thought I had.
	I'd be like, oh crap, if you're Muslim, look out.
	Here he comes.
	He's coming for you.
	These pregnant pauses.
	Oh, man.
	You know, when I clip him, I have to clip out those things because I can't stand them.
	He just stopped.
	What does he think?
	He's Jack Benny?
	He's up there.
	He stops talking and he looks left and looks right and looks left.
	You presume that anyone listening to the show, including me, has seen Jack Benny.
	Sorry.
	I do make that assumption.
	Yeah, that's wrong.
	Thwarting homegrown plots presents particular challenges in part because of our proud commitment to civil liberties for all who call America home.
	Okay, so that's the setup.
	All right?
	Civil liberties, homegrown attacks.
	Here's the setup.
	That's why in the years to come, we will have to keep working hard to strike the appropriate balance between our need for security and preserving those freedoms that make us who we are.
	Oh, okay.
	We need to strike a balance.
	This is very serious what he's saying now, because he's talking about giving up your freedom and liberties for security.
	That means reviewing the authorities of law enforcement.
	Ooh!
	Do you think they'll get less?
	Yeah, they're going to pull the rug out from under law enforcement.
	I think they're going to get less authorities.
	So we can intercept new types of communication.
	Oh!
	Whoa, there it is!
	So, if I understood the President correctly, he just said we need to review the authorities of law enforcement so they can intercept new kinds of communication.
	Would that be ham radio?
	Probably not.
	That's the joke of it.
	I'm thinking, no, exactly.
	I'm thinking this is wiretapping on a grand scale that he is now proposing, but it gets better.
	But also build in privacy protections to prevent abuse.
	Okay, so to prevent abuse.
	Alright, so what do you suggest?
	Wait, hold on a second.
	There's a little subtext here that I don't think he even knows he did.
	The subtext is that if you do any of this, it's assumed that abuse will evolve right out of it.
	Yeah.
	And it will.
	That's very interesting.
	Hold on a second.
	That is, you know, you're so right.
	He shouldn't even bring it up.
	No, he shouldn't bring it up because you should make the assumption there's not going to be any abuse.
	No, everything would be great.
	By saying just to mitigate abuse assumes there's going to be abuse.
	Lovely.
	...to prevent abuse.
	That means that even after Boston, we do not deport someone or throw somebody in prison in the absence of evidence.
	Now...
	What exactly does this mean?
	What does this have to do with Boston?
	Did we throw someone in jail?
	Did we deport someone?
	Other than...
	Wasn't there some Saudi that we deported?
	Is he referring to that?
	The thing that Glenn Beck keeps harping on?
	Yeah.
	I'm not sure what that meant.
	I don't either.
	It was on his mind.
	Throw away line.
	Throw away line.
	That means putting careful constraints on the tools the government uses to protect sensitive information.
	Oh, okay.
	Now we're getting to the meat and potatoes of it.
	Oh, yeah, you're right.
	Everything's got to be a top secret.
	This is all, to me, at least so far, all I'm thinking about is Julian Assange.
	Wait for it.
	That means putting careful constraints on the tools the government uses to protect sensitive information.
	Sensitive.
	Such as the State Secrets Doctrine.
	Now, the State Secrets Doctrine, are you familiar with this?
	I've heard of it.
	Okay, I was hoping you would be like, well, yes, let me tell you all about it, because I didn't research it.
	You didn't look it up either, okay?
	No, I didn't.
	I'll look it up in the Book of Knowledge.
	All right, well, pay attention to this next bit.
	And that means finally having a strong privacy and civil liberties board.
	A strong privacy and civil liberties board?
	What?
	Uh-huh.
	Yeah.
	To review those issues where our counterterrorism efforts and our values may come into tension.
	That's what's coming.
	You see, this is why we've got to listen to him very, very closely.
	Because he is essentially the telegraph of the New World Order.
	And he does it very well because he reads it verbatim.
	And so we're going to have, let me just get the words right.
	We have a liberties board.
	Hold on, roll back a little bit.
	Wait, hold on a second.
	So he's...
	This is good, by the way.
	I'm glad you did this.
	So he...
	And this is all pre the heckler?
	This is all pre-The Heckler, and this is pre-Inspire Magazine, of course.
	This is like, watch the other hand.
	This guy's like a magician.
	Yes, this is what I'm saying.
	Very good.
	Yes, but we keep forgetting this.
	I would have picked up on that little commentary about the Civil Liberties Board.
	Let's listen to what it's called again.
	Information, such as the State Secrets Doctor.
	And that means finally having a strong Privacy and Civil Liberties Board.
	Privacy and Civil Liberties Board?
	What is it like a board?
	Oh my god.
	Apparently there already is one.
	When did this happen?
	This has been around forever.
	Oh, okay.
	So this is something that was put in place three years ago.
	By Obama.
	Yes.
	Yeah, he snuck one in on us.
	Yeah, it's our job to catch these things, not three years after the fact.
	This is no good.
	David Medin is the chairman of the Privacy and Civil Liberties Oversight Board, which may be different, led by Senator Charles Grassley.
	Oh, no.
	No, no.
	They oppose.
	I'm sorry.
	What is this?
	Civil Liberties Oversight Board.
	This is a new independent agency.
	Oh, man.
	It's within the executive branch.
	I can't believe we didn't see this.
	This is lame.
	Role and operations.
	The purpose of the board is twofold.
	To analyze and review actions the executive branch takes to protect the nation from terrorism.
	Ensuring the need for such actions is...
	Here's what he said.
	To ensure that the need for such actions is balanced with the need to protect privacy and civil liberties...
	And to ensure that liberty concerns are appropriately considered in the development and implementation of law, regulations, and policies related to the efforts to protect the nation against terrorism.
	Yeah, exactly.
	So it was there all the time.
	So then what's he talking about?
	Oh, this is interesting.
	This was recommended by the 9-11 Commission Report in 2004.
	Oh, yeah.
	Believe me, this is not just Obama himself.
	But it is very interesting that this is what the Privacy and Civil Liberties Board or Oversight Board is going to be doing.
	Let's listen to it one more time.
	...of information, such as the State Secrets Doctor.
	And that means finally having a strong Privacy and Civil Liberties Board...
	To review those issues where our counterterrorism efforts and our values may come into tension.
	Okay, so it's just another independent body or body that is not independent, another body that is going to be making decisions.
	Another one of these things you can point the finger at and they can point the finger at someone else and then they point.
	This is ridiculous.
	This is what's going on with this Benghazi thing.
	You know, that time Rand Paul was grilling Hillary.
	Oh, you have to ask someone else.
	I got nothing to do with that.
	You got to ask another agency.
	Yeah, exactly.
	Talk to those guys over there.
	Yeah, over there.
	Yeah, no, you got to talk to the...
	No, no, no.
	You're talking to the right people to begin with.
	You should go back and talk to them again.
	I mean, this is a scam.
	That's funny you say that.
	I had something about that.
	Let me see if I have it here.
	No, maybe not.
	Well, anywho.
	I can't believe I just said that.
	You said that.
	You said anywho.
	Shoot myself.
	That was horrible.
	And I call people out on saying that.
	Mickey's been gone for a week.
	I'm a mess.
	But it's interesting.
	Do you know that dudes basically only need one room?
	Isn't that interesting?
	Are you laughing because you agree?
	It's true.
	Dudes basically need one room, and it would be great if my bed fit in this room, and it would be great if I had a little stove and a cooker.
	One of those little miniature refrigerators that only guys own.
	No, actually, a sterno.
	It's a sterno thing, a mini fridge, and I'd be set.
	I mean, I'd have this whole house.
	And I'm just in this one room in my command center.
	And you become so complacent.
	In the end, we're all 12-year-olds.
	Sure, I'm in my underwear in my command center.
	Who gives a crap?
	That's me.
	You have to have no girls written on the door with the R backwards.
	Exactly.
	So I really start listening to the things the president is saying, or I'm sorry, things that are written for him.
	And we got several notes from producers, including Harry Pilgrim, who sent a very detailed note, about something the president said in that same week, actually, on his Memorial Day reality show, his Heil Everybody show, to review here is the pertinent 30 seconds that we actually questioned.
	And on Monday, we celebrate Memorial Day.
	Unofficially, it's the start of summer, a chance for us to spend some extra time with family and friends at barbecues or on the beach, getting a little fun and relaxation in before heading back to work.
	It's also a day on which we set aside some time on our own or with our families to honor and remember all the men and women who have given their lives in service to this country we love.
	They are heroes, each and every one.
	They gave America the most precious thing they had, the last full measure of devotion.
	So the last full measure of devotion.
	We both said, hey, what is that about?
	And shame on us, by the way, for not recognizing an obvious plagiarized line from President Abraham Lincoln's Gettysburg Address.
	And we had to...
	Nice catch.
	Well, and I feel stupid...
	Harry Pilgrim, you know, one of our producers there in the D.C. area, the Virginia area.
	Oh, one of those guys in Virginia.
	Yeah, yeah, challenge coin guys.
	Name in a gentleman's life.
	Challenge coin guys.
	He said, you know, we used to have to memorize the Gettysburg Address back when he was a kid.
	I guess that's no longer required.
	I certainly didn't have to.
	They can barely memorize anything.
	Right.
	Um, so here, uh, so that is, now I tried to find the Gettysburg address from the movie Lincoln and Steven Spielberg did.
	I don't know if the, if that part of the address is actually in the movie or not.
	I saw the movie.
	I can't remember.
	I think it's at the beginning where he does that.
	I did, however, find a whole bunch of interesting references to this last full measure and what this actual speech was about.
	This is from the movie Saving Lincoln.
	Observe the voiceover and tell me if this fits President Lincoln and maybe President Abraham Obama.
	Resistance to the war was growing.
	Thank you.
	Mr.
	Lincoln needed to reinvigorate the people, to explain to them, and perhaps himself, why this endless plague of war must continue.
	So, maybe that's why he used the words.
	Maybe that's why he's being compared to Lincoln, so that he can convince the American people that this endless war must continue.
	And then I found on C-SPAN the director, Steven Spielberg, of the movie Lincoln, featuring Daniel Day-Lewis, who starts his speech off with these exact words.
	He contends that they gave the last full measure of devotion to defend a proposition about government, about how we choose to live together, starting with liberty and moving to equality, and whether the contract we make with one another based on liberty and equality is practical.
	Whether it will work, mechanically work, whether this idea of government can function on the earth we inhabit.
	And that's one reason why I think he keeps saying, here, in his address.
	So, when I heard this, we've got Steven Spielberg, we've got the movie, we've got the writers in the administration copying the words, and we already know that this thing was a setup, but now it seems on such a grander scheme, check this out, as I'm researching, And I need help here from our enlisted men and women.
	We look at the epaulets.
	We've been laughing about the uniforms and the crazy stuff generals have on them, etc., for a while now.
	And I don't know if it's just me or...
	You know how the epaulets, they no longer go from the neck to the end of the shoulder, but they go kind of over the shoulder?
	That's like one of the new styles, yeah.
	Okay, go look at the Lincoln era.
	This is exactly the same style they used in the Lincoln presidency.
	Now, I don't know if this has changed a lot over the years.
	It was hard to find any good research on this.
	Well, you know, the generals get to design their own uniforms.
	Yeah, but this is not just generals.
	Yeah.
	It looks to me like this is also lower ranks than general, but all of the epaulettes...
	So if a colonel has...
	A colonel outfit would be...
	So let me look at colonel, the uniform of a colonel.
	But you also have to take a look at pictures from the Civil War era.
	They have the exact same epaulettes as they do now.
	So now I'm like, wow.
	Who is the producer of this thing?
	Well, here is a picture of Alan West, who's as much of a militarist as anybody we've ever had in Congress, and he appears to be a colonel, and it's exactly what you say.
	It's over from front to back instead of across.
	Right.
	Okay.
	He stumbled onto something, and I think it's just slightly symbolic.
	Slightly?
	Well, we've become a militarized country.
	What are you talking about?
	We became this.
	We've always been this.
	Well, we've always been, but not to the point where they're shoving it in our face.
	Where you can't get work.
	I had a clip last week, I should have moved it over to this week, where they're talking about, it's on The Five with Dana Perino and Legs, what's her name?
	And by the way, people, I'm just making observations.
	I said I need help from people.
	If you're in the chat room and you're going, then pound it, okay?
	You're getting kicked.
	I hate that.
	Sorry.
	Actually, I kind of like the epilets from the American Revolution.
	Those are pretty cool.
	Yeah, you're right.
	The Civil War one's exactly the same.
	It's the exact same over-the-top thing.
	It's funny.
	I'm telling you, this is...
	So we're all trying to...
	We're just trying to create imagery to make...
	Well...
	It summarizes this.
	We're doing this imagery stuff that's happening every which way, and it's all to make Obama look like Lincoln.
	And the real question is...
	How real is the story about Lincoln?
	Who knows what they were doing then?
	Which we've now, of course, revised with, or we've set in stone with Spielberg's movie.
	Right.
	You know, where all he did was, a great man freed the slaves.
	Don't look at the fact that he was a Republican.
	Yeah, ignore that, please.
	Don't watch the Democrats who are racist who started the KKK. Democrats.
	See what someone said to me the other day?
	Because I said this conversation came up.
	And I don't give a crap.
	I'm not a Republican or Democrat either way.
	I do have to preface that so I stop the hate mail.
	You know, it was the Democrats who...
	The stewards for the Republican Party to curry.
	That's right.
	See, the Democrats were the racists.
	And the Democrats started the KKK. And then a very smart person said, yeah, but then they flipped.
	They flip-flopped, you see.
	You see, the Democrats started calling themselves Republicans.
	I'm like, really?
	That's your story?
	That's your excuse.
	That's your story?
	Okay.
	Good.
	That's all good.
	Dana Perina.
	Okay, so Dana Perina is going on about, oh, you know, these poor veterans, they're getting screwed by the...
	Which, by the way, this is another standard thesis in the history of the country.
	The veterans get screwed.
	Yes.
	And she goes on, and then one person says, well, I wonder if that's hurting recruitment.
	You know, the knowledge about the screw job.
	Recruitment?
	There are no other jobs except Army.
	That is exactly right.
	That's exactly my point.
	And somebody says, no, it's up.
	And the first thing I said to myself, of course, nobody on this panel said this because there are a bunch of, you know, bots of some sort.
	Wusses, yeah.
	They go, oh no, it's up.
	And the first thing I said to myself was, yeah, because you can't get any other kind of job.
	So that guy that I had all these clips from that was on Democracy Now!, which I'm going to get this clip again and play because it's very funny.
	He says that the Pentagon long since decided that we're going to divide the New World Order, puts manufacturing in China, puts banking in Switzerland or banking in England.
	It moves everything around.
	And we are the military.
	Yes, we are the...
	He puts people through the system, and then he goes on, I've got to get this clip, but I'll summarize.
	Then he goes on and says, somebody says, you've got to go to JCPenney's or Sears, he says, which is, he says, the middle class, I think it was Sears, the middle class's real, you know, department store.
	Right, it's all made in China.
	And see what they're selling to the kids, and he goes over there, and all the kids, in the whole child boys section, it was all camouflage.
	Right.
	Camos, yeah, of course.
	Yeah, all these kids are wearing camo.
	Now, you can't play cowboys and Indians.
	You can't draw a gun.
	You can't say anything bad, but you can wear camo as if you're in the army.
	Do they still sell green army men?
	Can you still get those?
	I'm sure you can, right?
	I think you've got to get them from Amazon.
	They don't make them anymore?
	Are you kidding me?
	I don't see them.
	They don't sell anybody anything.
	But they want you to dress like a slave.
	John, seriously, have you seen our vehicles?
	Have you looked at the cars Americans drive?
	Now, I'm not talking about the pansy-ass battery car, stupid, you know, just jip.
	I'm talking about the SUVs.
	And even those are hybrid, okay, or flex or whatever.
	The Flex.
	The Flex, I don't think it's hybrid.
	Just take a look at these things.
	These are militaristic vehicles.
	Yeah.
	They're very militaristic.
	If you also want to see what's really going on with the American public, go to a parking lot and leave your gray car in the parking lot and then try to find it.
	I mean, you have to have apps now to find your gray car in a sea of gray cars.
	Yes, be gray, slave.
	Hold on a second, John.
	I think it's time for a little PSA. When important moments happen, both big and small, we're the first informers to history.
	We are the pioneers, the innovators, reaching more people, touching more lives.
	By Ayn Rand.
	Come on.
	Come on.
	You got me off guard.
	You got it.
	You got it.
	One point.
	Hey, in the morning to you, John C. Dvorak.
	Well, in the morning to you, Adam Curry.
	In the morning, all the boots on the ground out there, ships in the water, subs in the sea, the people out screwing in the bed, and all the knights and dames.
	Yes, in the morning to all of our artists.
	Thank you very much.
	Sir Paul Couture, who checked in with the album art for episode 517.
	In the morning, to all of our human resources in the chat room at noagendastream.com, noagendachat.net.
	And indeed, I would like to say, in the morning, to all the ships at sea this weekend.
	Is the Museum Weekend event, Museum Ships Weekend 2013.
	If I can reach 15 different ships subs on the ham radio, I get a certificate.
	So I've been talking to Submariners.
	How many have you got so far?
	Three.
	Which is pretty good.
	You've got a lot of work to do.
	It's impossible.
	Because you can reach them on CW Morse code, which is very hard because it's like a million.
	I'm like...
	And those guys are like...
	Okay.
	So then I'm on the sideband, and it's cool because you get these real radio guys, and they're sitting on the ship, and they're like, yeah, I'm over here, and we're 20 miles off the coast.
	We've just surfaced.
	And I, okay, and I call out, well, there's like some, they call him a big gun.
	Some big gun, which means basically a guy with more money than you, who has, you know, a 200-foot tower and 1,000 kilowatts, and he's like, fuck you!
	So, you know, you've got to get lucky.
	But anyway, so I actually have been saying, CQ ships at sea!
	Yeah!
	I'm so proud of myself.
	You got three.
	I got three so far.
	Well, the weekend's not over.
	Okay.
	At least I'm trying.
	At least I'm trying.
	Maybe if...
	Well, they won't be listening to the stream, so by the time...
	You're going to start getting email, like, after the contest.
	Or, hey, you should have said...
	I should have known...
	Yeah, yeah.
	You should have said something on the last show, or on last Sunday.
	You probably would have been set up to get a 15-point shot easy.
	Well, I tweeted something, but I didn't know about it.
	I didn't find out...
	Look, I... Oh, I see.
	You were kept out of the loop.
	I work.
	I have a show to do, and sometimes I catch stuff.
	I'm like, oh, yeah, I should do something with that.
	There you go.
	Anyway...
	You always make your own certificate.
	Yes.
	Gee, that's not quite the same, John.
	But thanks.
	Thanks for the tip.
	Alright, let's thank some producers.
	I'm glad that people checked in to help us balance out a little bit, because Thursday was abominable.
	It was a bomb.
	Abominable.
	And of course, it's always the knights and the barons and the dukes and the earls who come in to help.
	I wish we had more, like, common folk.
	Well, you know, somebody shows up once in a while and they apologize for being boners and becoming donors.
	Remember, a boner is just a pre-donor.
	Trevor Chapman leads the pack with $518.
	They should put me in the category of a knight now, so please knight me as Sir Rataniff.
	All right.
	I don't know if that's on the list as such, is it?
	I'm going to check.
	Sir Rataniff?
	Yeah.
	Let me see.
	Where is it, sir?
	I'll double-check.
	Yes, sir Rataniff says it right here.
	And I would like a shout-out of karma for my 16-year-old son and his mental health issues.
	Yeah, which probably means he's going to be a genius.
	Would he?
	Yeah.
	You've got karma.
	Either that or a podcaster.
	I'm going to try to drug him out of it.
	Podcaster.
	Sir Gene Baron de Marriott.
	Ah, yes, the Sheriff of Texas.
	The Sheriff of Texas, 35695, and I don't have a note from him.
	So Sir Gene took me out to dinner after Thursday's show, knowing that Miss Mickey is out of town and he came down from Dallas.
	So I have no idea what he's doing.
	No.
	He took me out, and at dinner he said, oh, here you go, and he gave me 275 euros in cash.
	Ooh.
	So that translated to 356.95.
	So that's how we get the interest.
	Well, you've got some money to spend when you go to Europe in July.
	Dwayne Melanson, Sir Dwayne Melanson, Sir Melanson, Earl of Tea.
	He's the Earl of Oregon, isn't he?
	I thought so.
	Yeah, I think so.
	The spreadsheet, I've got to stretch it.
	Eric DeShiel, who has now taken over, is great.
	I don't know, for some reason his spreadsheet skills are different.
	Yeah, I know.
	Why is that?
	I don't know.
	Is he using a different version of something?
	Got me.
	Everything is a mystery.
	It's Microsoft's world.
	ITM, gentlemen, just finished reading Michael Crichton's State of Fear at your recommendation.
	Crichton nailed it in terms of the compromised nature of the climate change and other similar scams.
	State of Fear is a must-read.
	Keep up the great work and get the black smoke pots ready to go in case the cameras show up at your house.
	Oh, yeah, so you can say that you were attacked.
	Yeah, you can show the smoke.
	This is our new thing.
	Alright, thank you.
	I think it's Sir James Spitzer.
	I'm pretty sure it is, yeah.
	We're going to have to deal with the missing sirs.
	Jamaica Plain, Massachusetts, 3-3-3-3-3-3.
	For the BPCIT University, Melanson was 3-3-3-3-3-2.
	Also, Joe Wagner of Emory, Sir Joe of Emeryville, 3-3-3-3-3.
	I'm donating because last night I had a dream that John was co-hosting The Price is Right...
	And having the time of his life, he was also wearing a suit with giant football-like shoulder pads underneath and looked like he had just got back from Hawaii.
	Follow your dreams, John.
	I'm following my own by leaving my well-paying job to look for something new and fulfilling.
	That's Sir Joe the Dish Slave.
	Yeah.
	That'll be the last donation from him.
	Thank you, Sir Joe the Dish Slave.
	We've got karma.
	Follow your dreams, John.
	You would be good, by the way.
	I think you could do it.
	Come on down!
	Right, and then say this.
	All right, are you ready?
	Give it a good spin.
	All right, are you ready?
	Give it a good spin.
	No, no, we've got to work on that.
	I don't have a lot of fake enthusiasm.
	No.
	Joel Singleton in Henderson, Nevada, 33333.
	He sent a note in saying, I figured out the PayPal thing.
	Who has patience for snail mail these days?
	Combine that with your random P.O. box extraction and it would have lost it.
	Finally made it from boner to donor.
	Short-circuited back in 2008 and finally woke up.
	Now I find myself anxiously awaiting the show twice a week and I've completely stopped listening to all the other podcast distractions I used to rely on.
	Thank you both for telling it straight.
	Oh.
	And he's Tim from Lost Wages.
	I, um...
	Scott Henderson on his PayPal account, but he's from Lost Wages, I guess.
	Okay.
	You what?
	Well, I was going to say I did an experiment because something triggered in me.
	He said, yeah, I can't wait for the show to show up.
	I tried an experiment over the weekend with BitTorrent Sync.
	Have you ever heard of this?
	No.
	Oh, this needs a column.
	No.
	BitTorrent Sync.
	Okay, think Dropbox, but it's BitTorrent, no central server.
	And so I tried it, and so I've set it up, and I have a public folder, and I'll put that in the show notes.
	JC will know this.
	And so basically you need a hash number, and you enter that number, and people are getting the show in like 15 seconds.
	Really?
	It's unbelievable.
	It's just like...
	It's peer-to-peer, so you're grabbing it from all these different peers simultaneously.
	Sometimes it can take a little while for the show to download, but what's cool about it is you just have a folder, and that folder says no agenda, and then it's 2013, then it has the month, so today, 06 will appear as a folder, and in that folder, just the show will appear.
	It's very much like...
	You know, a subscription, except without all the bull crap of iTunes and all this crap that doesn't work.
	Now, of course, it's not for your phone yet, but they're working on it, and I don't think it's open source yet.
	I don't know if it will be, but I was just astounded by how well it worked.
	So, in addition to our RSS feed, of course, and we already do a feed of BitTorrents, now we're going to try BitTorrentsync.
	I'm very impressed.
	Okay, well, And you should look at this because...
	If you're impressed, I'm impressed.
	Thank you.
	Enough said.
	James Mann in Ringo, Louisiana.
	3-15-13.
	Facing a job crisis.
	Then again, who isn't?
	And decided to support a little more than I usually do while I'm still earning.
	Besides another guy we're not going to hear from anymore.
	Thanks for your work.
	That's all we're getting is good John letters.
	Good knowing you.
	See you around.
	Here's some money.
	Bye.
	It's like a divorce.
	WJB raps 242, and he's the associate executive producer along with James B. Mann.
	Still liking the show.
	Trying to get to nighthood this year.
	Everything's great, but what I still miss is a transcription of the whole show.
	Right.
	Yeah, so do we.
	The best way we try...
	The best way would be to hold transcription so we can look things up via Command F, but otherwise perhaps someone has an idea to implement a change of topics in a webpage.
	You know, if you remember, within the first couple of years of the show, Bubba Martin used to post the show on the Dvorak Cage Match site and the Dvorak Uncensored.
	And he would do a blow-by-blow of the show.
	It wasn't notes.
	It was notes.
	It was notes, not a transcript.
	And we took it for granted.
	He kept saying, do you think I should just keep doing this?
	And then I don't know if it was me or he just stopped doing it.
	I said, eh, I don't think anybody cares.
	What happened to Bubba?
	Bubba died.
	Oh, crap.
	You didn't know that?
	I thought you knew.
	No, I know that he had like a leg thing and he was in and out of the hospital.
	He died?
	Yeah, he died about a year and a half, two years ago.
	No, I didn't know that.
	Does he have family?
	Yeah, he does, but it was just a strange thing.
	I never did find out what he had.
	Something happened to him at some point because he was on the ropes and he came back and he was on the ropes again.
	You don't think it was the transcribing of the show, was it?
	No, he stopped doing that for at least a year.
	Ah, there you go.
	He should have never stopped.
	I'm sorry to hear that.
	Bubba was kind of interesting.
	He would send notes that were borderline annoying.
	Yeah, no, totally.
	They were borderline.
	He was great.
	That's sad.
	We need people like that.
	He's the one who says, he's the one who claimed to have flown through that hole in that building in Dallas.
	Some mania, there's a building in Dallas that's got this big, at the top there's a big, like a giant hole.
	And some maniac in a private plane had flown to him.
	It was a big scandal.
	And he said it was him?
	Yeah, he said it was him.
	He wouldn't admit that it was him, but he hinted that it was him, but he couldn't say it was him because he'd get in trouble.
	What building are we speaking of here?
	I don't know.
	It's just a private plane.
	Is that the Chase Tower?
	I don't know what it is.
	Yeah, it probably is.
	Let me finish this note here from WJB Reps.
	Are you sure it wasn't Austin, the IRS building?
	Is he sure he wasn't confused?
	I'm pretty sure it was that building in Dallas.
	There's a building with a hole in it.
	Oh, you mean you crashed into the building?
	Just saying.
	All right, move on.
	We're almost done here.
	I'm glad you amuse yourself.
	Yes.
	Now, I'm taking notes on my phone while driving.
	Can't remember some crucial details all the time, which are important when I try to explain a no-agenda theory to a non-believer.
	Stop.
	Don't even try that.
	It's not worth it.
	No, it's crazy.
	We keep telling you, just talk to the converted.
	They can pick up most of it already.
	They have the memes.
	It has to be right for the first time anyway.
	For instance, Gene Steve Gibson from Twit lets his partner transcribe the whole podcast and it's available in Word, MP3, HTML. Well, now you're talking, partner.
	Keep up the good work, my insights.
	Yeah, you're right.
	We should get Steve Gibson's partner to transcribe this show.
	Is Steve Gibson gay?
	Not that I know of.
	No, I think he is.
	Oh, it could be.
	Yeah, why wouldn't he?
	I don't think so.
	This puts a whole new slant on Steve Gibson.
	Steve.
	I don't know.
	Because he has a partner?
	Maybe his partner's a woman.
	No, no, no.
	That's not how you...
	Believe me.
	Because I think it was Steve Gibson who also thinks, yeah, I remember this.
	I think he also said that AIDS, the whole idea that AIDS being this virus that you can catch this way, that he says this really needs to be looked at differently.
	He's kind of on my side of the fence when it comes to AIDS. I think that was Steve Gibson.
	Maybe I'm wrong.
	I don't know.
	I can't talk about other podcasters.
	By the way, you're not allowed to play any more podcast alternatives.
	I've ended this segment.
	No, no.
	I've got to play this one for sure.
	No, no, no, no.
	No, not going to happen.
	First of all, anything that gets said on this show that anyone's offended by, even if it comes out of your mouth, I get blamed for it.
	Okay, I'll tell you this.
	I'll make a deal with you.
	If you play this next one and you don't like it, then the segment's dead.
	No, the segment is already dead, because here's what's happening.
	We play these things, and then all these other podcasts are saying, those guys are a-holes!
	They're trying to start controversy.
	It's the only way we can get any publicity.
	No, but they want publicity for themselves, and now I get all this hate.
	People are like, I can't believe that, man.
	You already had the best podcast in the universe.
	Now you've got to put the man down.
	You've got to put the boy down.
	You've got to put him down.
	What are you?
	You've got to put him down?
	That was my Eddie Murphy.
	What did you think of that?
	It was pretty good, right?
	No, it wasn't very good.
	Oh, man.
	But that's exactly what I get.
	Like, I didn't expect that from you.
	You mock others who are just trying.
	And I'm like, John's segment is not me.
	In fact, those two guys we mocked the last time I was in conversation with, and they wanted some tips, and I gave a bunch of writers.
	Oh, no.
	Here's what happens with this.
	Now, other podcasts...
	Are talking about this feud that's going on.
	I'm like, I have no feud.
	But the way they literally say, Curry decided to go spout off at them that they sucked.
	I'm like, no, that's not what happened.
	It's like someone sent a note and said, this is the way you should be doing it, like these guys.
	Yet, it turns into this whole, no, it's over, it's done.
	I got other things to do with my life.
	I had no idea this was affecting you negatively.
	Yes, I don't like it when there's negativity.
	We have to have people being positive about our show and not thinking we're a bunch of a-holes and we're slamming other dudes, which we're not.
	I'm not.
	You are.
	Let's put it that way.
	But I get blamed for it.
	It's okay.
	I'll tell you what.
	Take that clip.
	Are you on Twit today?
	Oh, I hope you're on Twit.
	Please say yes.
	No, I'm going to go to the airport.
	You're banned.
	You've been banned.
	No, I was invited.
	I have to go to the airport.
	What's at the airport?
	I've got to pick up my daughter.
	Oh, that's nice.
	That's cool.
	Just in time for Father's Day.
	What?
	Just in time for Father's Day.
	I think she was here for Father's Day.
	Really?
	That's interesting.
	It's nothing that I... You know, on Father's Day, these other bogus holidays are things that I try to...
	When is Father's Day, according to you?
	Did I miss it?
	Did you get it and I missed it?
	Yeah, what?
	Did I miss Father's Day?
	Because I didn't get a call.
	From who?
	From my daughter.
	Oh, yeah, you should have gotten a call.
	I don't think it's been yet.
	Well, I see.
	This is how lame we are.
	We don't even know when Father's Day is.
	We don't care.
	We're lousy fathers.
	I'm just going to call.
	Hey, you didn't call me.
	Where's my Father's Day call?
	Father's Day is not even for a month.
	16th of June.
	It's on the 16th of June.
	Well, you're the one that said she was there for Father's Day.
	Yeah, last year.
	Last year.
	All right, everybody.
	Thank you very much for your support of the best podcast in the universe.
	Dvorak.org slash NA. Rest assured, we will be working very, very hard to bring you more analysis.
	And some of this is quite painful, actually.
	And going back and finding information.
	Re-listening to speeches you've heard ten times.
	And I'm going to be really all over this now.
	I mean, we've got to dissect word for word everything this president says.
	And maybe it's been this way with most presidents.
	But this is the first one where it's been so scripted and we're missing out on valuable information.
	Yeah, it would make a job a lot easier just to listen to what he says.
	Wow, what a concept.
	But, you know, everyone gets distracted by the woman in the back shouting.
	Which makes me believe it's set up.
	I think that now that you mention this, it reminds me of my Led Zeppelin story.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Mm-hmm.
	I know, but I completely agree.
	And then he can always come back and say, oh, no.
	Remember during the debates with Romney?
	Right, and Romney got suckered into asking the question the wrong way, and Obama says, just listen.
	And then, of course, what bothered me about this, by the way, which I think the Republicans are still annoyed about, what bothered me about this is that when Obama came with his zinger...
	No, I never said it that way.
	What I said was, and then everybody, like Candy Crowley and everybody in the questioning booth, they said, oh yeah, that's exactly what he said.
	They had all been pretty briefed on what was going to happen, and they jumped in to just pound Romney.
	I think we lost the election right there.
	It's a big reality show.
	Anywho, there we go again.
	You said it again.
	I know.
	There's a problem with me.
	I don't know what's going on.
	Help us propagate the formula, quick!
	Our formula is this.
	We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
	I'm just trying something new.
	And Um, okay, let's see.
	Oh, by the way, John, Euroland is burning.
	Well, you know, I think, yeah, okay.
	It's been burning.
	What else is new?
	Well, but, you know, over the weekend, we got a couple things really cranking up, and I think part of it is to obfuscate what's going on in the Middle East, but here's a one-minute report from the BBC, which I was surprised, although they brought in, like, an intern to host the segment, but at least she got the information across.
	It has seen widespread demonstrations by people from all corners of society, angry at the growing economic hardships they face.
	They all blame the troika of international lenders.
	That's the IMF, the European Union, and the European Central Bank.
	Now, of course, the United Kingdom is against, in general, I would say, is against the European Union.
	And so this report is interesting because, of course, people are angry about what's happening, but now the slaves are...
	Are starting to riot against the IMF, against the central bankers.
	This is, I would say, a very, very good thing.
	I have some boots on the ground in some of these countries.
	These protests are much larger than you are being shown.
	Responsible for rescuing struggling states, but in return for countries having to make severe spending cuts.
	Now, this was the scene in the Spanish capital, Madrid, where thousands took to the streets.
	Here, six million people are out of work, and economists forecast unemployment to rise further.
	With no one hiring and no one spending, it's making the economy contract, plunging families deep into debt.
	Now in Lisbon and Portugal, more than 10,000 people gathered outside the International Monetary Fund's headquarters.
	Two years ago, Portugal pledged to cut its debt in return for a 78 billion euro bailout.
	That's about 101 billion US dollars.
	Locals say it's made the financial crisis worse, and many are calling for the government's resignation.
	Meanwhile, in Germany there was a tense standoff near the European Central Bank's headquarters in Frankfurt.
	Thousands turned out to demonstrate at the ECC's role in pushing spending cuts on struggling European countries.
	Police used pepper spray and batons to stop protesters from breaking through police lines.
	Batons.
	So the Germans, the Spanish, the Portuguese, the Greek.
	This is very good.
	I'm very, very proud.
	This makes me feel good.
	Although we're getting hit with batons.
	Batons.
	Where are you going with that baton?
	And what are we doing here?
	Nothing.
	No, we're not doing anything here.
	The thing that's really breaking out right now is Turkey.
	Oh man, do you have the same feeling that I have about this?
	You think the American intelligence is behind it?
	Yes, of course.
	This is so obvious that the CIA is now trying to break Turkey apart into two states.
	Well, the guy who runs Turkey is an Islamist who has managed to, in the olden days, a little background here, once Ataturk took over Turkey in the 1900s or so.
	Now wait, this is at the end of the Ottoman Empire?
	Yeah.
	There's this guy named Ataturk who took over the place, and he made it illegal to infuse the government with any religion, knowing that the Muslim religion has all these crazies.
	So if you were an Islamist, specifically, in Turkey, you'd get arrested and beaten and thrown in a jail and forgotten about.
	Kind of like the way our government does it.
	And every time that some guy snuck into the office as a prime minister or anything else, the military would overthrow the country with a coup, throw the guy out, have another election, and then retreat and let the civilians run the place again.
	This is a cycle.
	Well, this last guy got in, this Erudan, or whatever is how you pronounce it.
	He is an Islamist, and he, before they could pull this old stunt because they were kind of hampered by their membership application in the EU, knowing that if they took over the place again and threw this guy out, they'd never get in the EU. So they kind of dilly-dallyed.
	And while they were dilly-dallying, he arrested them all.
	Hey, stop dilly-dallying.
	I'm throwing you an iron.
	And so the country has been slowly slipping to radical Islam.
	Very slowly, but happening.
	And this is irking the public at large because there's all kinds of restrictions.
	The media has been totally co-opted.
	And so they decided to have this little protest.
	And by the way, any protest movement is smashed.
	But they had a protest against rebuilding a, taking a park out of the downtown area and leveling it and putting it in a shopping mall.
	Right, right, which is how it started, but that's almost nothing.
	It's gone on.
	I've got three reports on this, and the BBC one is kind of lame, so we're going to skip that.
	But first, let's play the Al Jazeera, which I think has the best grip on this, and then we'll follow that up with a classic CNN version of the same story.
	Yes.
	But there were fresh clashes near the offices of the Turkish Prime Minister.
	The Interior Minister says nearly a thousand arrests have been made and more than 90 demonstrations across the country.
	Rawia Rage is in Istanbul and sent this report.
	After days of trying to break through the police siege, protesters take over Taksim Square.
	Thousands pack the popular area, describing this as a victory.
	The man who said he won't back down, just back down.
	But this needs to go on.
	We believe there is going to be a victory.
	We are looking after our urban zones.
	The AKP has no right over our urban space.
	We will protect our city and our rights.
	It came after one of the most aggressive advances by the police since the protests began.
	But ultimately, the police pulled out from the square after hundreds of injuries and arrests.
	Earlier in the day, scenes like these of crowds marching across the bridges over the Bosphorus gave an indication of just how big the protests had grown.
	For them, what began as a protest over a park has now taken on a deeper importance.
	Now they're demanding the fall of the government.
	Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan says he has no plans to back down.
	He did acknowledge what protesters and rights groups have criticized as a heavy-handed approach.
	It's true that the police forces made a mistake in using tear gas.
	I have ordered the Interior Ministry to investigate this.
	Using the gas was excessive.
	I'm just going to pause for a second.
	So I got this same report, just so you know.
	Of course, we were both thinking the same thing.
	Did you also watch this report and think, my God, you're so boring!
	Oh, air it again?
	The whole thing, this report, the whole report is boring.
	Oh yeah, it's not as boring as the BBC version, but the CNN one...
	You should finish this up because there's some details.
	But the CNN one is...
	I've got to set it up before you play it.
	We'll finish Al Jazeera first.
	But there are concerns the government has restricted Turkish media from reporting on the protests.
	Many protesters chanted against the local media, describing them as sellouts.
	Protests spread to many places across the country, including the capital Ankara.
	This is what happened near the Turkish parliament.
	There are people of all kinds of ideology here together, from all religious sects.
	But the attitude of the police never changes.
	I even think it is probably the undercover police that have caused so much debris on the street.
	The international community has expressed concern at the approach the police are taking.
	As Kalm returned to the square, the government may have gotten the message.
	Protesters are telling us they now have three specific demands.
	The government must stop the urban development project in Taksim Square.
	They're insisting on an apology from the police for the way they behave here.
	And they're insisting that Prime Minister Erdogan and his government must step down.
	Now, I get a kick out of these three demands.
	This is like...
	Let's list them again.
	I would like you to serve some ice cream.
	I would like to get a new pair of shoes.
	Yes.
	And you must kill yourself and all your friends.
	Now!
	Yes.
	Very nice.
	It's just pretty funny.
	Now, the CNN guy, now you remember, I don't know if you remember back in the day of the first Iraq war where...
	Peter Arnett.
	They had a guy on the roof and he's ducking and jiving.
	He's just like, every time something goes off, he's ducking.
	That was Peter Arnett.
	Wasn't that Peter Arnett?
	Yeah, it was Arnett.
	No, it was this other guy.
	They called him Rockets Charlie or something.
	No, there's another guy.
	It wasn't Arnett.
	Arnett wasn't the guy that was jumpy.
	But anyway, so we got this new guy, he's in Istanbul, on the scene, coughing.
	Okay.
	The riots have been going on in downtown Istanbul.
	Okay, yeah.
	I think it was the...
	I know exactly who you're talking about.
	The guy who would, like, in a heartbeat would go to Russia and put on his gas mask?
	Yeah.
	That guy?
	Yeah, well, he was also in the shot with Peter Arnett when they were downstairs in front of the green screen, goofing off.
	Oh, that's funny.
	Yeah, okay, okay.
	So I already know what's coming.
	This is great.
	The riots have been going on in downtown Istanbul all day on Friday.
	You can see the riot police here in the central Taksim Square squaring off events.
	Demonstrators were starting to set up burning barricades.
	They're holding rocks and bottles.
	It's very overwhelming.
	And this is the commercial heart of Turkey's largest city.
	This started as a protest movement against plans to pull those That park over there.
	And replace it with a shopping mall.
	We don't want this place to turn into a shopping mall, and this has turned into something else.
	Let me ask you a question.
	Was it tear gas, or was he just coughing for no reason?
	I think he's burning tire smoke.
	I don't know.
	Because he's outside, supposedly.
	We don't know.
	It's not in front of a green screen.
	And he's coughing.
	Cough.
	Get out of here!
	It's mad!
	This report is so lame!
	Is more coming?
	More coughing?
	I think he coughs again.
	This is controlling the media, the police, and we have no control about what gets out in terms of news from Turkey.
	This isn't about a shopping mall anymore, is it?
	Not anymore.
	I think it's going towards something political, and suppression has come to a certain level where people are fed up with this, so we're going to try to change this.
	Tonight's going to be a bigger gathering, so we'll see what happens.
	All right.
	Honestly, it's really hard to breathe right now without a gas mask.
	These crowds of stone-throwing protesters have gotten worse as the day has progressed.
	Oh!
	Guy's screaming, quick, stop the report!
	He could be dangerous!
	A lot of people very angry that the use of tear gas and this police force is being used almost on a weekly basis in Turkey against any public demonstration of dissent.
	The irony here is that just earlier this week, Istanbul was making its bid to host the 2020 Olympics.
	Now, It's become the scene of a full day of riots.
	All right.
	Who do you want to be?
	Do you want to be the reporter?
	Do you want to be the guy I'm interviewing?
	What do you want to do?
	Or do you want to toss to me?
	I'll be the guy you're interviewing.
	Okay.
	Let's see if we can do this.
	Do you got enough sound effects?
	So, um...
	It's, uh...
	So, this is not about a shopping mall, is it?
	No, no.
	We're sick of all these horrible people running the government must go.
	Okay.
	Boy, it's hard to even talk with you without a gas mask on.
	It's just really bad.
	You're getting used to it because we have this happening every week on a weekly basis.
	They're throwing the gas at us.
	Are you angry?
	We are going to take action.
	What kind of action are you going to take?
	Big meeting tonight.
	Big meeting.
	Big meeting.
	That was good, actually.
	That was one of our better ones.
	That was one of our better ones.
	Big meeting tonight.
	What big meeting?
	Okay, so I'm pretty convinced.
	This has got to be...
	Look, we've got the CIA in the south.
	There's basically a whole weapons depot as we're flowing weapons, troops, everything into Syria from the north of Syria, the south of Turkey.
	We've got...
	Turkey's way too friendly with Russia.
	All the Russian pipelines to Europe run through Turkey.
	This is obvious.
	I think Erdogan got set up.
	He's a total idiot.
	He got suckered in like a real boob.
	And Hillary and now John F. Kerry, he even had him like, oh, go hang out.
	Oh, we're friends of Syria and whatever.
	Meanwhile, it's all just to make this happen.
	So we had this huge ruckus, and it's going to be unfriendly for Russian gas.
	You watch.
	Put it in the red book, gas pipelines explosions.
	Put it in the red book.
	I guarantee you that's what's coming next.
	Big explosions.
	They may not even say it was a pipeline, but we'll look at the map.
	And by the way, like I was right about Waziristan, you never heard of that name before.
	And you heard it on the best podcast in the universe.
	And now that's where everyone's getting droned every day is in Waziristan.
	Because that's where the pipeline runs.
	So that's what's going to happen.
	We've got, you know, the Mediterranean gas.
	We've got, you know, with Israel.
	We've got stuff coming in from Baku way up north.
	This is disruption of the Russian business.
	That's the way I see it.
	Yeah, that would make sense.
	And also, I thought that CNN guy, by the way, he got the same report basically out with a little more drama.
	I actually admire that because of course the boring Al Jazeera report.
	But he did mention that one thing about these Olympic game deals are a big deal.
	And nobody else reported on that.
	But I would suspect that there's some angle there to a minor one.
	But you might as well bump them from the Olympic games while we're at it.
	Oh, of course.
	Well, the whole European thing.
	That was just the little, what do you call it, the little carrot and the stick.
	Yeah, don't you want to be a member of the Europe?
	Do you want to be a member?
	And by the way...
	It's very beneficial.
	We have a big meeting.
	All right.
	So I follow a couple of shows that kind of went back to back, which I thought were fascinating.
	Mm-hmm.
	And Nova, which is the science show, had Manhunt, Austin Bomber.
	Now you remember that I watched this whole thing and we talked about it on the previous show, right?
	Yeah, but I didn't have clips.
	I had a clip.
	Yeah, but what was your clip?
	My clip was that they had no video of the guys doing it.
	Oh yeah, no, no, this is different.
	So what you did very good is you went and you basically got the crux of the story, which is facial recognition, it's great, it's coming, it's here, it's in your living room, it's how we're going to live from now on.
	Yeah, and it's bullshit, too, by the way.
	Now, that was backed up by a front line, which was really interesting.
	And people, I don't care about the Nova show.
	Nobody has to watch it.
	But the front line, which followed it, called Top Secret America, is a must-watch for every listener of No Agenda.
	It's really good, and actually it finally concluded that the two shows kind of concluded about the capture.
	The front line concluded with a slightly different conclusion about the same event.
	But there was a couple things that, like you went over the Obama thing, and I went over this Nova thing and listened to it, because I didn't hear it the first time.
	Okay, no, no, this is very good.
	And now we have a couple of interesting things that showed up.
	I just want to make sure that you had done it and didn't have Alzheimer's or something.
	No, no.
	Okay, good.
	We didn't discuss it in any detail.
	No, no, we didn't.
	The one thing I want to start with, though, is this.
	It's a long clip, the longest of the group.
	But it's another contradictory description of the capture or of the shootout.
	Remember the shootout where the one brother comes out blazing guns and there's a million shots and they're throwing bombs?
	Yeah, he had a pressure cooker bomb.
	He had two Glocks.
	He's firing like Neo in The Matrix.
	And they gunned him down and the other brother took off.
	And he drove over him.
	We drove over somehow.
	Now, if you listen to this description, which is the same basic thing with more description, it just doesn't make any sense.
	We are running back and forth.
	If there is any doubt that the carjackers and the bombers are the same men, it quickly evaporates when the suspects begin throwing explosives at the police.
	They have explosives, some type of grenades.
	They're in between the houses now.
	I forgot.
	We forgot about the proof of the radio voice.
	And by the way, they're in between the houses now?
	They have explosives!
	They're in between the houses now.
	Okay, you actually should interrupt it every so often because there's so much bull crap in this report.
	They have explosives!
	The residents in this densely packed neighborhood are petrified.
	They're still shooting.
	Oh my god.
	My guess would be 300 rounds went off.
	It was scary.
	It was terrifying.
	300 rounds?
	We're shaking.
	Two more blasts went off.
	It's not a explosion!
	It's not a explosion!
	The last one being the largest really lit up the neighborhood with an orange glow.
	There was white smoke.
	What?
	That explosion was another pressure cooker bomb.
	But they also hurled smaller, yet still very lethal explosives.
	Wait a minute.
	Wait a minute.
	I'm sorry.
	That was another pressure cooker bomb.
	There's no evidence of another pressure cooker bomb going off.
	This gets worse.
	They need to be pipe bombs.
	Pipe bombs?
	In this device, the pipe itself acts as shrapnel, and the tightly packed gunpowder leads to a powerful explosion.
	We might have to evacuate.
	Eventually, the suspects run out of firepower.
	And suddenly, the first suspect starts running out towards the police, cuts across the street, was taken to the ground.
	The police had their foot over him, and that's when I heard one officer who was pointing the gun at him say, you f*ing move, I'll f*ing blow your head off.
	That's when the Mercedes took off.
	He gunned it.
	He saw the bump when he ran over the guy.
	Who's this talking?
	I don't even remember this in the show.
	No, no, this is another guy that was just like the final analysis.
	Now, first of all, let's get this straight.
	The one brother's on the ground with a guy with his foot on his head.
	Yes.
	And he says, if you fucking move, I'm going to blow your head off.
	And then he says, all right, I'm getting in the car.
	No, no, he stays on the ground.
	His brother gets in the car.
	And then runs over him without obviously running over the guy's foot.
	No, of course not.
	And the guy has a gun and without the guy even shooting at the car running over the guy on the ground after shooting 300 rounds randomly in the air, they can't shoot at this guy who's apparently now two feet from the officer as in the car driving over his brother.
	Does this make any sense to you in the remotest of Jupiterian kinds of logic?
	Jupiterian, eh?
	I'm sorry.
	I like that.
	That's almost as bad as any who.
	But the point is that it was...
	The story, again, let's just go over this.
	The guy's got his foot on the guy's head, telling him not to move.
	The brother jumps in the car, and I guess they're paying no attention to him.
	So somebody moved.
	And the car must be, well, he's not talking to that brother.
	No, I know, but still, I mean, he was right there, apparently.
	Yeah, he was right there, but they didn't care about him.
	He jumps in the car, then runs over his brother, which means he's one foot away from the cop who has his foot on the guy's head.
	How come there's not tons of video of these huge explosions and how come we don't have blast sites to look at?
	Post-production has been taking a little longer than they'd hoped.
	Well, you know, the whole post-production industry is just tits up.
	There's no more money.
	Anyway, so this is the stupidest thing I've ever heard.
	But Nova, I don't know what happened to this show.
	They just bought everything hook, line, and sinker.
	It's Jenny Jardin's boyfriend.
	Right, that's right.
	You mentioned that last show.
	Okay, here's the other one that got me.
	All these are eye rollers, but this one here really got me.
	This is the guy in the boat clip, and this is where first they spot the guy with some bullcrap infrared device hanging from a helicopter that they're flying all over the place.
	Which is forward-looking infrared, which is like, you know, this has been around for two decades.
	This is nothing new.
	Yeah, it's old and it's useless.
	Yeah.
	But they apparently, if you know exactly what to look.
	So meanwhile, we get this discrepant report and they have to explain it away because it won't go through a canvas.
	So that boat was covered with a canvas.
	It wouldn't have really spotted the guy in there like it did.
	So they've changed the story.
	And listen to this play.
	Odd in the backyard.
	I just got a 911 call from a lady basically stating that she has a boat stored out in her backyard and there was some blood on the canvas.
	You really don't have your hopes up.
	You know, I wasn't really expecting too much, but as soon as we got on scene, we came up over the neighborhood and Eric saw the boat sitting in the backyard and I just swung the flare over to it.
	Flare?
	And it was covered with a shrink wrap, not a canvas.
	Shrink wrap?
	The thin plastic shrink wrap was not enough to obscure an infrared image beneath.
	I got a perfect picture.
	I got incredible detail.
	I knew right away, you know, that it was definitely somebody in the boat.
	They were actually looking at us as we flew over.
	We detected a little bit of movement.
	His body, his head is towards the back of the boat.
	He's lying on the side of that fence.
	Acknowledge it.
	Yeah, John, I got a perfect view of him here.
	It was just fantastic.
	I mean, the floor is sorted over to the left.
	I lit him up with the midnight sun.
	I said, that's that bitch.
	He's hiding there right behind.
	That transparent is like a saran wrap that he's got around him.
	We had him all there, John.
	This is just, we are weak.
	We are the kings.
	We rock.
	You can't hide, bitch.
	We will have you!
	Okay, so we saw pictures of the thing.
	It was white something or other.
	It wasn't clear whatever this guy said.
	Looking up at us.
	I can see the lights in his eyes!
	So then they go on with this other interesting little thing.
	And I didn't realize until I clipped this.
	Let me get this straight.
	Play the facial recognition bullcrap story.
	About how this one guy who I think, and the guy just sounds like he's full of crap, when you hear at the very end, we say, oh, no, we've got this down to a science.
	They got one image of the one brother, the younger one, and it's just a bunch of pixels and, you know, the kind of thing that enhance on CSI they would do, right?
	All right, turn the floor around, all right, zoom in, rotate, enhance.
	Got him!
	It's him!
	It's our knife!
	It's a cool car!
	So they go through this process where they say artificial intelligence is the same as machine learning, and they make a bunch of botches.
	Tell me if you can find a million flaws in this Carnegie Mellon operation.
	I bet this is a boing, boing level of technology analysis, right?
	Back at Carnegie Mellon, Mario Savitas continues his facial recognition experiment, which is totally dependent on big data.
	Oh, big data!
	As Zohar Sarnaev identified and high-resolution photos now widely available, Savitas decides to test his facial reconstruction of suspect number two.
	It is based on this extremely blurry shot and is generated using the artificial intelligence technique called machine learning.
	And through some skip logic that we reverse-translucerized, we all of a sudden had a very clear image.
	He compares it to a database of a million faces.
	I have!
	I've seen a million faces in my database!
	Including this high-res picture of the younger Tsarnaev.
	Okay, stop there.
	So, this is the picture that's been going around of the guy.
	It's a picture of, it's a high res picture of him against a white background.
	We've seen this picture.
	I've never figured out or heard where this picture came from to begin with.
	I thought it was an after the fact.
	It came from human resources.
	Why does this picture exist?
	But anyway, so they put this picture into the giant database of a million faces and play it out.
	After factoring out women.
	Why?
	He had long hair.
	He could have been in there.
	Non-whites.
	Uh-huh.
	Facial hair.
	Uh-huh.
	And people over 25.
	It's Al Sharpton!
	He gets this result.
	The real photo of Johar ranks number 20 in the list of possible matches.
	I'll work on it at an infancy, but we're still blown away on how it works.
	This wasn't a random face.
	This actually fit the Boston suspect.
	So that was huge.
	Bull crap!
	Total bull crap.
	The thing that I found interesting is the picture that we've really seen is the one where he's walking away from the explosion wearing a backpack, which has never been explained to me.
	No, nothing's been explained to me.
	I have a little clip to interject real quickly.
	Okay.
	I can only have one more on the Nova thing, which you'll be amazing.
	Let's play your last one, then I'll transition you.
	This is the end of the show where they captured him.
	But this is another just hilarious thing.
	They think he's got a bunch of weapons.
	Some guy fires randomly.
	And then they let go of the barrage at this poor boat.
	And they're just peppering this thing.
	They still can't kill him.
	And all I can think of, every time I hear these reports about how they had fired 300 rounds and the guy runs over his brother right in front of a cop, apparently holding his head down on the ground, and all this, all I can think about is the Keystone Cops.
	Now, but this, by the way, in the Frontline Report handles this a lot differently.
	Why are you such a non-believer, John?
	What is wrong with you?
	Because I've seen the Keystone Cops movies.
	Is that Buster Keaton?
	No, no, that's the same studio, though.
	Max Senate.
	All right.
	Fittingly, they are led by Boston Police Superintendent Bill Evans.
	He has little doubt who is inside the boat.
	Oh!
	Wait a minute.
	There's no doubt at all.
	There's no doubt, and why is it fittingly?
	Why is it fitting?
	Fittingly?
	What's fitting about it?
	The man with the white cap.
	He also assumes he is heavily armed.
	He could see the whites of his eyes.
	Couldn't he see if he was armed or not?
	The helicopter guys could see him looking up and they could see if there's anything in there.
	Yeah, they could see everything.
	They could see him smiling.
	The man with the white cap.
	He also assumes he is heavily armed.
	Previously he had pipe bombs, he had guns.
	Our biggest concern was, given the weaponry he had, we didn't want to move in until it was safe to do so.
	Then someone fires a shot, which quickly leads to a barrage of gunfire.
	I don't know what triggered the shot, but this was a dangerous guy in there.
	No one knew what he had.
	I was screaming for everyone to hold their fire.
	Okay, hold on a second.
	Stop.
	So here's the question I have.
	What were they shooting at?
	You got a bunch of cops.
	You got a thousand cops around in this boat.
	And one guy fires a shot for some stupid reason because they can't control their people.
	And they all open fire.
	On what?
	What are they shooting at?
	Do they have a body?
	Is a guy standing there?
	Who cares?
	What are they shooting at?
	Just anything.
	Just in that general direction.
	They're just shooting like maniacs.
	This is horrible.
	Yes.
	And you know what?
	This is what I find amazing.
	There must have been a hundred rounds at least, probably more.
	Just not a single bullet hole in any other person's house, window, anything.
	Was it even live ammo in this script?
	I'm wondering because it seems to me that they would have torn up the place.
	The only I've seen...
	The cops aren't shooting.22s.
	The only report I've seen of someone who had...
	I've only seen one, and that was where the brother drove over the brother over there with the explosion and the huge pipe bombs and everything's going off.
	There was one report of one person who showed one bullet hole that went through his window into his chair.
	That's it.
	You've just got to wonder.
	300 rounds, there's got to be a lot of damage.
	No, no.
	It's certainly not reported on.
	Let's put it that way.
	There's been no report.
	And I think it would be a very interesting report.
	Maybe the Boston police are only outfitted with blanks.
	Yeah, maybe they don't know.
	They apparently can't control themselves.
	Standoff that lasts nearly three hours.
	the 19-year-old emergency is unarmed.
	He's unarmed.
	The SWAT team rushes in.
	Suspect in custody.
	Nobody is coming to the perimeter.
	It's still a hot scene.
	The manhunt is over.
	Did you hear what he said?
	Okay, this is proof now.
	Alright, I'm gonna roll that back.
	Okay.
	Now listen very, very closely, because I've heard this, and I'll tell you where I've heard it before.
	Okay, did you hear what he said?
	I'll repeat it.
	Nobody's to come within the perimeter.
	It's still a hot scene.
	It's a hot scene.
	Hot scene 5, take 22.
	It's a fucking movie, John.
	It's a hot scene.
	Don't come within the perimeter.
	Come on, man!
	The swat town rushes in.
	Suspect in custody.
	Nobody's to come in the perimeter.
	It's still a hot scene.
	The manhunt is over.
	Good evening.
	The tweet just came from the Boston police, and it reads in all caps, CAPTURED. The hunt is over.
	Suspect in custody.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	All right, so here's a funny little clip.
	Now remember, two of the guys in the FBI who were part of this capture fell out of a helicopter.
	They were repelling, and something went wrong, but they were dead when they hit the water.
	It's kind of the way, you know...
	Why were they repelling into the water in the first place?
	It's exercise.
	Are they Navy SEALs?
	They're FBI. It doesn't make sense.
	No, these are elite.
	Elite.
	If someone ever gives you the title elite law enforcement, you've got a target on your head.
	It's like the SEALs.
	The SEALs, you know, they go and they kill Bin Laden and then they die.
	This is how it goes.
	So, I don't know if this is one of the two guys who's dead.
	But this is, and this came to me, someone showed this to me.
	I could not believe it.
	This is Anderson Pooper, who had a number of the elite FBI agents, and one of them...
	Really says something wrong.
	Now, what is your understanding about Johar and his throat that he couldn't talk?
	What was your understanding about that?
	I heard several different stories.
	I heard one.
	Well, the one I remember now, I mean, he probably got shot in the throat while these guys were shooting at that boat like maniacs.
	There's two stories.
	One was he was injured in the battle where he jumped in the car and ran over his brother, which was still, again, that whole scene makes zero sense.
	And the other one was that he tried to kill himself.
	By doing what?
	By shooting himself in the throat.
	There's a report that he was shot in the throat.
	Unclear whether that was self-inflicted or at what point.
	Could you tell that?
	I did see a throat injury.
	To me it looks more like a knife wound.
	It wasn't a puncture hole, it was a slice where it was spread open.
	Oh!
	Gee, don't get in a helicopter after telling everybody that.
	This is one of the guys who was there.
	It wasn't a gunshot wound, it was sliced.
	Huh.
	Uh-huh.
	And he's dead?
	Well, I don't know if he's one of the two that's dead, but...
	Well, they don't give us a lot of details.
	No.
	But just that one piece of video, this is the only video I could find of it, by the way.
	So this whole thing, this whole show, and I'll take you out.
	I'm going to transition you into Frontline, okay?
	Go.
	But it's taking a little sidestep with a little bit of fun.
	This report came out of Florida.
	The intention was to give parents an added level of security.
	Instead, a new program rolled out by Polk County Schools triggered questions and outrage.
	Yeah, she came home from school and said that they were doing eye scans on the bus.
	I thought that was a little unusual since nobody notified us.
	So...
	There's these kids who are like, yeah, we have like a retinal scanner coming on the bus!
	This is all a part of it.
	That's why I wanted to transition you into this.
	It's called the eye swipe.
	This video on the company.
	I think it's so funny.
	I mean, why don't we just call it asswipe?
	No, we call it eye swipe.
	...website shows how the biometric screening system works.
	The district decided to try it out on a trial basis on about 17 buses at a few schools in the Haines City area.
	Parents would get text alerts when their child gets on and off a bus.
	The problem?
	No one explained it to parents like Dennis Delaney.
	No note, no letter, nothing.
	The district planned to send out this letter that explains how it works and gives the option for parents to opt out.
	Okay, so I'll stop the report there.
	You can listen to the whole report in the show notes, 518.nashownotes.com.
	The point is...
	This report does not talk about the insanity of doing retinal scans on your children.
	So they took tweets if they got on and off the bus, which I guess is just to make you more afraid and make the children afraid and just make you enslaved and get ready because that's what work is going to be like.
	Oh, let me get the boss here.
	Oh, I didn't get a tweet that you came into work.
	It's slave training.
	But what I wanted to point out here is that the wonderful TED conference...
	Ted.
	You know, the elitist Ted.
	They actually had the chief strategist for iLock, that's the name of this company, speak at Ted.
	Because Ted is one big commercial circle jerk.
	How is this possible?
	Simply said, the eye is an incredibly complex organ.
	Oh, and I'd like to point out, he's doing a commercial for eye lock.
	The black dot that's in the center of our eye is called the pupil.
	The colored area around the edges is called the iris.
	Oh, and all these people don't know that.
	Do you want to hear his pitch?
	How he actually pitches that this is so necessary?
	I'm flabbergasted that he's...
	Is he talking to fourth graders?
	Oh, but he's a marketing guy.
	So, yeah, he's talking to fourth graders.
	He's a marketing guy.
	You've got to hear his pitch.
	Now, if you needed to pitch the fact that we have to have retinal scans, what in your wildest dreams could you come up with that would make a TED audience give you an ovation because you're so awesome that you presented this commercial?
	No, just play it.
	I can't imagine it.
	So at the beginning, I have to set it up with a little bit.
	At the beginning, he says that cyber crime and theft, because of passwords being stolen, equals $210 billion.
	That's his whole setup, and he has like $210 billion.
	So now he's going to pitch retinal scans to the TED audience.
	The magic of our eye is that every single one of us and every single one of our eyes is a unique combination of lines, dots, and colors.
	Here comes the edit.
	Here we go.
	Utopian or dystopian outcomes rest squarely with our ability to balance the needs for security with those of convenience and civil liberties and privacy and control.
	Uh-huh.
	This is an important discussion that must take place.
	Dialogue is incredibly important because the stakes are so high.
	Here we go.
	Back to imagining that $210 billion of losses that took place last year in the globe based on identity-related crimes.
	$210 billion is a really tough number to get your head around.
	But to put it in a little bit more simple terms, that's like feeding 35 million families for a year.
	As you're walking around over the next few days, imagine this.
	That 35 million families is, in essence, one of every eight people that you see over the next course of the days you could feed for a year on $210 billion.
	If we contributed just 1% of this amount to the Gates Foundation, we could eradicate polio from the planet forever.
	Let me just make sure I got it.
	Do retinal scans eradicate polio from the planet?
	Even I couldn't come up with that.
	The Dvorak Consulting Group pales in comparison.
	No, no, we couldn't come up with that because it's crap.
	Gus, less than $25 billion to land a man on the moon.
	Oh, we could do a retinal scan, land a man on the moon.
	This is the challenge for our generation.
	Let's make it happen and identity crimes and step it up.
	End identity crimes and step it up and save people from polio.
	And this was TED! TED! This must have been a TEDx.
	Of course.
	But it sounds better if I just vilify the whole TED brand.
	They shouldn't put up...
	This was just a commercial.
	Yeah.
	Who goes to these things?
	I mean, it costs $8,500 to go to one of the TED things.
	Well, not the TEDx.
	The TEDx is free, I think.
	No, I think you still have to pay to get in.
	It's moronic, is what it is.
	Moronic, I tell you.
	Just moronic.
	It's crazy.
	It is crazy.
	Okay.
	So now, should we take a break and then go to the front line?
	What do you think?
	Yeah, we should go to the front line.
	Front line, this one is about, it's interesting, it's called Top Secret America, and it talks about how we've turned the country into a secret government.
	Well, we have three million people.
	One of the best outlines of it I've ever seen.
	I'm telling you, everyone out there has to watch this whole show.
	Wait a minute.
	Stop.
	Let's do something professional.
	Let's tease it, and we'll do it right after the break.
	Yeah.
	Right?
	Next!
	Sorry.
	Do it again.
	Next on No Agenda.
	I'm going to show my school by donating to No Agenda.
	Imagine all the people who could do that.
	Oh, yeah, that'd be fun.
	Yeah, I don't know what you love in the morning.
	You didn't let me finish my cheese.
	Raymond Rojo, I want to thank a bunch of people who helped us produce this show for 518.
	Raymond Rojo in Winnipeg, Manitoba, 140.
	Call me Raymond Rojo.
	All right, Raymond Rojo.
	517 is my brother's birthday.
	Check the list.
	So 517, you said you are blowing your nose, and I was.
	Hold on a second.
	Yeah, Rojo, yes.
	He was blowing his nose.
	Yeah, there you have it.
	Proof.
	Fuck.
	It was creepy.
	Like Adam could hear what I was doing.
	Maybe he can.
	He reminds me when there's an unemployed slave in Canada when Christian talked about the lazy people on unemployment insurance sitting with their feet up drinking beer.
	It made me spit out my beer because I thought the guy could see through the TV. Yeah.
	Okay.
	Anyway, okay.
	Carl Barron, $124.07.
	He's in Cambodia, where he's located the outfit that faked the moon landings.
	Oh, send pictures.
	And he's now a baronet, he claims.
	Okay.
	So we'll give him that.
	Alan Cavado III in Richmond, Virginia.
	Nice little town, by the way.
	Nice museum.
	1, 2, 3, 4, 5.
	He wants us to read.
	Do not read this on the air.
	Paleo Bessa, $100.
	She's the Chilean guy.
	Chilean.
	Chilean.
	It's a commemorative birth of his new human resource on the 31st.
	I need some Hello Citizen Karma LGY if you can do that.
	Yes.
	I'm just thinking, now that Eric Bishill has taken over, does this mean that all the notes I forwarded to Buzzkill Jr.
	didn't make it?
	Buzzkill Jr.
	says he forwarded them to Eric.
	Okay.
	All right.
	So what does he want?
	Hey, Citizen Karma LGY? Was that what it was?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Hey, Citizen.
	You've got karma.
	Yay!
	All right, now everyone else will get a karma at the end.
	Robert Montoya, Pleasant Hill, California, $100.
	Stephen Arnold in Louisville, Kentucky, $100.
	Brian Rogers in Newton, New Jersey, $700.
	What's the number we haven't seen too much?
	And now we go to John Haller.
	69!
	69, dudes!
	John Haller in Missoula, Montana, 6969.
	And all these rest are going to be 6969 from Robert Frost in Wooddale, Illinois.
	Kent O'Rourke in Frostburg, Maryland.
	P. Bo.
	Pim from Maastricht.
	Very good.
	He says to screw you, Adam, for overusing the rain stick.
	It rained last night again here in Austin.
	That thing is just crazy.
	You know what?
	I'm actually going to get it.
	Okay, anyway, that's the end of the segment.
	Hello?
	Oh, hello!
	69!
	69!
	Rainstick!
	Rainstick!
	Here you go.
	Joaquin Fornalas.
	Fornalas.
	6666.
	Michael Sabres in Danville, Pennsylvania.
	6167.
	Hey, I don't think he...
	He's not on the list here, I don't think.
	There's a birthday thing here.
	Yeah, it said, happy birthday to Mike Sabres from his girls.
	Hey, hey, hey, hey.
	Okay, we'll put them on the list.
	Yeah, okay.
	I will.
	Kwong Lu, Santa Ana, California, 60.
	Raleigh Rakama, parts unknown, 59-59.
	Tangney in Randolph, Massachusetts, 55-10.
	PayPal?
	PayPal said it's $55.
	Woo!
	Win!
	Jeffrey Fitch, Windermere, Florida, $51.50.
	David McClain, Cuba, Missouri, $50.01.
	David Trotsky, Romeoville, Illinois, $50.00.
	Greg Brunsel, Kenosha, Wisconsin, $50.00.
	Holla Walker, parts unknown, and Matthew Parker, parts unknown, $50.00 each.
	Thomas of Cheyenne, Wyoming, $50.00.
	That'll conclude our list of donors for show 518.
	Wow, it goes by quick these days.
	Yeah, well...
	Oh, hey, nice.
	I was not expecting it to rain last night.
	It was nutso.
	It's June.
	I think, you know, that's a land where...
	I remember when I was a kid, there were parts of the country where it would get really hot, and then it would rain and all the windshields would crack.
	Yeah, that can happen.
	Yeah.
	Here we have the dreaded golf ball size hail.
	Oh yeah, I've never seen golf.
	I've heard of it.
	I've seen big hail, but I've never seen.
	And I've heard of softball size hail.
	And what are you supposed to do when it starts to hail like that?
	You go outside and soak it up.
	Yes, with a blanket to put on your car.
	Oh, is that the idea?
	If you don't, yeah, if you don't put a blanket on your car, you're going to have a very sad-looking car.
	It gets all dented up?
	Oh, yeah.
	Oh, yeah.
	It's really bad.
	And we don't have a garage.
	Most people in the Travis Heights area don't have a garage.
	It's not a very common thing here, unfortunately.
	That's weird.
	Well, it's old homes.
	They had horses.
	When this was built, in 1917.
	Okay, well then put your car in the horse barn.
	That's the neighbor's.
	The horse barn is now the neighbor's house.
	Oh, okay.
	It doesn't work that way anymore.
	Okay, well, if you appreciate the work that has been done here and the work that continues to be done, we call it our value for value model.
	Okay.
	I'd like to give everyone who donated, including our regular subscribers.
	If you don't have a subscription, this is something that you should consider doing, is getting one of the 1111, 1212, 1313s, the 20s, the 33s.
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	And we really appreciate everything that everyone has done.
	All right, I think I got the list here.
	It's not that long.
	Raymond Royo, congratulations to his brother.
	He celebrates on the 17th.
	Guess we're a little slow on that one.
	And happy birthday to Mike Sabres from his girls and from your buddies here at the Best Podcast in the Universe.
	It's your birthday, yeah!
	And then we have...
	Oh, this is interesting.
	What happened to our niner night?
	Did that not come through, or...?
	I don't know.
	We have a Niner Night.
	Did you see the second spreadsheet?
	The second one came in.
	This is the second one, I think.
	Maybe he's got it in another note.
	But he wasn't on the list.
	He wasn't in the spreadsheet either.
	That's my point.
	Oh, he's the one who sent something into the post office box.
	Oh, okay.
	And he says it showed up.
	I went to get the, I always get the mail on Saturdays.
	Right.
	And there was no, all the donations were machine generated.
	Okay, so then we'll do them on Thursday.
	Okay.
	Yeah, we'll do them on Thursday.
	Yeah, he asked if there was such a thing as a niner night, and I said, I don't know.
	I don't think so.
	But of course, it turns out there was.
	I don't know.
	But if you do 9-9-9, niner, niner, niner, 9-9-9, yeah, I'll kick in the buck for sure.
	You still like kicking a penny, but now you're kicking in a buck?
	Well, it's depression time, John.
	It's crisis, my friend.
	We've got to take whatever we can get.
	Don't you think?
	Yeah, it's depression time, I agree.
	Okay.
	We do have one knighting here.
	We also have a baronetting.
	No, you're right.
	Knighting, baronet, you just mentioned.
	Right.
	Listen, Mr.
	Secretary of Peerage, when are you going to get your crap together on this and tell me what to do?
	Well, do what you're doing.
	You're fine.
	You're doing good.
	Okay.
	Ow, ow, ow.
	I'm going to hurt yourself.
	Trevor Chapman, step forward, my friend.
	And thank you so much for your very generous support of the best podcast in the universe.
	As you are not only the exclusive member of the 518 Club, you are also...
	The executive producer, and today we are very proud to welcome you to the roundtable.
	We hereby pronounce thee, Trevor Chapman, Sir Ratnef, Knight of the No Agenda Roundtable.
	For you, sir, we have quite an illustrious set of hookers and blow-ramp boys and chardonnay, hot pants and booze, long-haired heavy metal guys and scotch, wenches and beer, Rubenes, women and rosé, geishas and sake, vodka and vanilla, bong hits and bourbon, sparkling cider and escorts, mutton and mead, and breast milk and pablum.
	I think I should take breast milk and pablum off the list.
	What do you think?
	It's a little weird.
	Well, it's only if you get another young knight.
	It's a little weird.
	Like a baby.
	Yeah, okay.
	We'll take that off the list.
	You've admitted it.
	Yeah, no, I'm admitting it.
	Of course.
	I can't.
	You always say, oh, no, I just keep it in my head.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, that's right.
	All in my head.
	That's what I thought.
	All in my head.
	I do it all along.
	Are you certain of your sensory?
	Definitely a space vessel of some type.
	Origin?
	I'm known.
	Could hardly be an Earth ship.
	There have been no flights into this sector for years.
	I'm picking up a signal, sir.
	Captain, that's the old Morse code call signal.
	Thank you.
	CQ? CQ? We're reading it, Lieutenant.
	I thought you said it couldn't possibly be an Earth vessel.
	I understand why it always gives you pleasure to see me proven home.
	An emotional Earth weakness of mine.
	I just love hearing CQCQ on Star Trek.
	All right, second half of the show.
	Before we get into your front line serious business.
	Yeah, isn't that cool?
	Thank you.
	Citizen X, I think, sent me that.
	Bill Clinton, according to the Hollywood Street King, This is Jackie Jasper, the Hollywood Street King.
	He's one of my sources.
	Bill Clinton fathered a love child with a hooker.
	Hillary?
	No, Bill.
	And his name is Danny Lee Williams, and he now wants to meet Bill.
	He says, I hear he's not doing so well.
	He's got like, here he's got suffering from Parkinson's disease and heart disease.
	So I'd like to say hi, Dad.
	Danny is?
	No, no.
	He says, Billy.
	Yeah.
	He says, so Danny says, I'd like to say hi, Dad, before he dies.
	I'd also like to have a relationship with Chelsea.
	She's my half-sister.
	Yeah, good luck with that.
	So do you think it would wind up dead in the next weeks or the months?
	It won't take long.
	It's not going to take long.
	Car accident?
	I think car accident.
	And then I wanted to send out, and I'm kind of torn about this, but I think in a way I should send out a douchebag to Jimmy Iovine.
	Hey you, out of the street, don't you realize you're douchebagging?
	Jimmy Iovine, known from Interscope Records, and also, didn't he buy Beats?
	I'm going to do a little Noagina Tech news here.
	Didn't he do Beats?
	Didn't he buy the headphones with Dre?
	I think he did.
	I don't know what you're talking about.
	You don't know about Beats?
	You don't know about Beats?
	Those overpriced headsets?
	Yes.
	Yeah, I know about them, but it's like, why would I give a shit?
	Well, because it's a huge business.
	I think it's phenomenal if you can take a pair of headsets, overprice them, and sell them, and everyone wants them.
	Yeah, I think that's pretty interesting.
	It's called a con game.
	But you can call it a business if you want to.
	So, he is now coming out with this thing called Daisy.
	And he says, Daisy is what we're missing, what DJs used to do.
	Radio disc jockeys.
	He says there's an ocean of music out there and there's absolutely no curation for it.
	But he says that with algorithms, with these secret algorithms that...
	Skip logic.
	Yes, that Daisy can program your iPod better than any disc jockey ever could.
	So, uh, this of course makes me immediately want to go do another Daily Source Code because, like, that is a lost art.
	You should do another Dvorak interlude.
	Yeah, that's illegal.
	Well, there's that.
	Does that mean we stop?
	I'm not risking the show, the No Agenda show, uh, bottom line to just on a lark.
	So I shouldn't do it either?
	Right.
	Really?
	Really?
	Well, you can play pod save stuff.
	Most of it sucks.
	Yes, but you can find good stuff in there.
	That would be kind of a benefit to people.
	I do have an idea for a new show, though.
	It finally came to me yesterday as I was handing $5 to the dude with the bucket of harmonicas at the market.
	He had a bucket of harmonicas?
	Yeah, that's the dude who plays the steel guitar and the harmonicas.
	Yeah.
	I keep telling him, hey, man, you should meet this buddy of mine.
	He's a wizard.
	On the mouth harp.
	And I'm thinking, maybe I do a show with street musicians.
	And, right?
	And then, so, you know, I bring them in, and then we basically take donations, and I split it with each musician.
	And, you know, we'll do a couple songs, we'll record it, I'll talk about their life.
	Because, just talking for like three seconds, it was interesting.
	You're like, hey man, thanks for, you're always supporting me.
	I've got a thought.
	Okay.
	This would be ideal for one of our stall...
	We're going to miss two shows, maybe four.
	Why four?
	Because there's two weeks that you're on vacation in Europe.
	I'm not going to miss four.
	I'm only going to miss two.
	What are you talking about four?
	Well, I'd say it's possible that if we can put together something like this and use them as filler for the missing show...
	You mean like Hamburger Helper?
	No, there's no helper.
	This is all good stuff.
	Filler.
	Well, it's not the show.
	Hold on a second.
	How come all of a sudden we decided that I was going to make the filler?
	No, I'm going to do one too.
	What are you going to do?
	I don't know yet.
	I'm going to do interviews.
	I'm going to interview a bunch of people.
	I'm on some weird mailing list that is from some PR company.
	And apparently every book that comes out, I have the opportunity to interview the person who wrote it.
	And we're talking about I get maybe 10 of these solicitations a day.
	So I can do a bunch of short little things over Skype.
	Of course, here's the funny irony of all this.
	Americans in general...
	Except for the tech community, they don't even know what Skype is.
	Yeah.
	It's astonishing to me, let alone something like Google Voice.
	So this guy, let me tell you why I think this will be an interesting show.
	So he hands me a CD which he burned himself.
	And it was kind of cool.
	He did like a little...
	He burned himself?
	Yeah, so it's not like a produced CD. Oh, I thought you meant he burned himself.
	No, it's a home burner.
	And his music is very interesting, but just talking to him for five seconds, he was like...
	I was like, so you're from Austin?
	No, man.
	I was just driving through and my bike broke down.
	I'm like, oh God, this is great.
	My bike broke down, but then I met this girl and she's a keeper, so here I am.
	And I'm playing this song for you.
	I wrote a song about it.
	But he's kind of like...
	Sounds like a surfer.
	So I want to try him.
	And then also there's the fiddle girl.
	I think she'd be really cool.
	The girl who plays the fiddle.
	And she's just...
	Also, she's cute.
	And then maybe I get producer Mike Malaro, who's always doing amazing songs.
	But I just have a little...
	Amazing!
	Amazing.
	So you think it's a good idea?
	Yeah.
	But now all of a sudden...
	We should test market it on the No Agenda show.
	Okay.
	I was going to say, all of a sudden my new show turned into filler.
	Thanks.
	My brilliant idea turns into filler.
	It's a test market.
	People go, wow, this is great.
	We want more of this.
	Then you can roll it out.
	Okay, good.
	So here's an example of why I get mad.
	So, I get an email from Robert Pinder, and of course it's addressed to me, primarily, I can't stand to hear you propagate this bullshit any longer.
	John!
	John!
	Wait, is this the Adam Reads His Email segment?
	Well, it's...
	Come on, play the jingle and let's read some email.
	It's fresh off of the email, so...
	Oh, okay.
	Adam's gonna read his email.
	Adam's gonna read his email.
	Adam's gonna read his email On the No Agenda Show I wasn't even planning on it, but since you asked I can't stand to hear you propagate this bullshit any longer John, again, it's Adam's email, but John, you once correctly stated that the Surgeon General designed his own ridiculous uniform.
	At some point over the past year, you started saying that generals design their own uniforms.
	This is not true!
	It is actually difficult to get the powers that be to give a shit about approving or changing the uniform to stay current.
	My father was career army, then spent a second career in the civil service supporting the army.
	One of the many things he did in the civil service is shop around uniforms.
	And changes, and he was instrumental in improving the first computer design uniform.
	Anyway, the generals, like all U.S. military service personnel, followed the uniform regulations.
	Some choose to influence the uniform design, but for the most part, they have better things to do.
	And people like my dad determine what the uniform will be.
	Usually, performance is more important than appearance.
	Stop spreading bullshit!
	You know, we had another guy that threw this ass a couple years ago, and then I dug up the regulations.
	It's not bullcrap in the least.
	It's absolutely true that you can read the regulations on what your uniform has to look like, and it says it with the exception of generals.
	Generals can wear whatever they want.
	In fact, the Navy's got the same thing, and that's why the current Navy four-star guy that's on the Chief of Staff wears this blazer.
	By the way, the Navy guy's got the best out.
	He's really sharp.
	And Eisenhower had his, he invented the Eisenhower uniform, which a lot of people just copied, because it's true, a lot of these guys don't want to design anything, they don't care, and so they'll wear something that Petraeus wears, or whatever.
	This guy is, people who write in with this information, I don't have to go dig this up again.
	Why do they send it to me?
	Make me sick!
	Why do they send it to me?
	Because they...
	I have no idea.
	I don't know what...
	There was another guy who kept giving us stuff.
	He said, that's bullcrap.
	They don't get the design.
	They do if they want to.
	And most and many do want to.
	And look at the new guy, that bald guy that headed the army.
	That guy, nobody wears that uniform.
	It's a silly looking thing.
	Yeah.
	Alright, a quick couple more emails.
	From Richard, producer Richard.
	Hey Adam, I was at Walmart today and found some cap gun rolls.
	Are we in the Twilight Zone or something?
	The price was $3.33.
	Oh, wow.
	And he sent a picture to prove it.
	Thought you'd get a kick out of that.
	Yes, we certainly did.
	No Agenda Book Club.
	This is from one of our producers, Adam.
	I've written a couple emails to you already, but never anything important.
	Just want to say hello again.
	Listening to the show about a year or so.
	This is one of our friends who works for NATO in Brussels, which is why I can't mention his name.
	And he says, the book you want to read is by Howard Zinn, and it's called The People's History of the United States.
	Please, please, please read this book if you can.
	It is the most scary thing you will ever read.
	It's a piece of propaganda.
	Howard Zinn is the worst left-wing communist that we've ever had in this country writing history books.
	And this thing is so slanted.
	It's enjoyable, yeah.
	It's got a lot of great anecdotes.
	It's like writing the history of Florida.
	We're using the news stories that we get today about the crazy Florida people.
	It's off the list.
	We're no longer reading this book.
	You can read it.
	My whole family's read it.
	I've read it.
	But it's very propagandistic.
	The writing is propagandistic.
	The whole thing is slanted, and it makes you itch a little bit.
	Here's one from another producer who I cannot name by name, referring to the operation...
	And by the way, it just kind of galls me that some people cannot see propaganda for what it is when they see it, and then enjoy the product, but to fall all over yourselves because you've read something that is written in a propagandistic style is really not good.
	No.
	Go back to college.
	Well, he's a friend of the show, and he's hurt now.
	Yeah, I know.
	There's a lot of guys that are friends of the show, and they pull this every once in a while, and it just irks me in some way, because it's like, geez, this is what we're trying to teach him not to do.
	Well, also, this is good.
	This is Get It All Out.
	Now, remember we talked about the Jordanian war game involving 18 countries?
	I think it's called Eager Lion 2013?
	Right.
	So, I got an email from one of our producers, a listener.
	It was an infantryman in the Army in 2002.
	I was stationed at Fort Campbell, Kentucky, with the 101st Airborne Division.
	My company was picked as one of the best infantry companies in division, tasked with a special assignment.
	We were to accompany elements of the 5th Special Operations Group to the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan to provide securite for training exercises.
	As far as I know, none of this is classified information, as I was a private first class, slightly less important than dog poop at the time, so I wasn't exactly privy to operational planning.
	However, I was very observant.
	My company and I spent the majority of our time guarding the camps we lived in and guarding the supplies.
	There seemed to be an awful lot of supplies all contained in connexes that I never really saw opened.
	It's a very long email, but he basically comes up with the term Operation Early Victor, which was the name of the war game that was taking place at the time.
	So if I forward down to, we were laying the groundwork for the Iraq invasion.
	They launched many sorties in the shock and awe campaign from the exact same base as we were in in Jordan a couple months earlier.
	So essentially, he's saying that Eager Lion is the follow-up to early Victor and that without doubt, the invasion of Syria will be launched either right after Jordan.
	during, or somewhere in the vicinity of the Eager Lion 2013 war games from Jordan.
	And if you try and Google Operation Early Victor, good luck.
	There's nothing known about it.
	There's only one guy who received a Medal of Honor for being a part of it, but there's no wiki page, no nothing.
	This is why we're the best podcast in the universe.
	Hey Adam, just want to add a suggestion.
	If John resurrects cranky geeks, then your show should be called Grumpy Hams.
	However, I have a real idea.
	Why don't we do No Agenda Kids?
	My kid loves your show.
	He's eight.
	We have a lot of young listeners.
	But this is a good idea.
	We could do No Agenda Kids.
	Could you imagine how cool that could be?
	And did you know your teacher is a whore?
	Hold on a second.
	That is...
	Let me just get a time stamp on that.
	John?
	Really?
	Was that necessary?
	Well, you totally ruined it.
	I'm not going to read the Cowboys and Indians email.
	I'll save that for Thursday.
	I did find out, though, someone sent me an email.
	You know, I'm not verified on Twitter.
	And you're verified, right, after you bitched and moaned and bitched and moaned?
	Yeah, that's a squeaky wheel.
	I've done the same, and they won't verify me.
	You don't bitch and moan enough.
	First time I've heard of it.
	I got an email that said, Kim.com tweeted this, actually.
	when your Twitter account is subject to an active sealed surveillance warrant, you don't get certified verified.
	Yeah, sure.
	Because your tweets are so, you know, somebody's got to be looking into those.
	Well, did you read the document?
	The Department of Homeland Security document?
	About the keywords?
	What keywords are you dropping?
	Oh, this is hilarious.
	Oh, yeah, I read this.
	This is great.
	In fact, I wanted to read it on the show.
	Definitely do it.
	Read.
	Go.
	Okay, so bringing it up now.
	I actually tweeted a whole bunch of these words yesterday and then made you look.
	So under Freedom of Information Act, the Department of Homeland Security has been forced to release the list of keywords that they use to monitor social networking sites.
	So let me tell you, you're all in this database.
	You've all been monitored because it's crazy.
	And they're using TweetDeck as their incredibly sophisticated tool.
	Let me bring it up here.
	Which category would you like?
	Domestic security, hazmat, and nuclear?
	I think domestic security is more important.
	Health concerns.
	There's a couple of categories.
	Hazmat's good.
	Infrastructure security.
	Southwest border violence.
	By the way, using Bing and Operation Early Victory, I got a hit off the globalsecurity.org site that describes the thing in great detail.
	Oh, really?
	Great.
	Send me that link because the Googles did not return that.
	Well, there you have it in a nutshell.
	Weather, disaster, emergency, terrorism.
	We just do terrorism?
	Some words that could get you flattered?
	Terrorism is good.
	Okay, terrorism, Al-Qaeda, all spellings.
	Terror, attack, Iraq, Afghanistan, Iran, Pakistan, agro, environmental...
	What?
	Agro.
	So if you use the word agro in Pakistan in a tweet...
	You're going to be on the watch list?
	I don't think you even need to do them together.
	Just one or the other is fine.
	Environmental terrorist, eco-terrorism, conventional weapon.
	Hey, hello, Mohammed!
	Do you have that conventional weapon?
	Do you have that conventional weapon of type 47?
	Target, weapons grade, dirty bomb, enriched nuclear, chemical weapon, biological weapon, ammonium nitrate.
	Improvised Explosive Device, IED, Abu Sayyaf, Hamas, FARC, IRA, ETA, Basque Separatists, Hezbollah, Tamil Tigers, ETA, ETA, yeah, that's the Spanish...
	I thought it meant estimated time of arrival.
	I use it all the time.
	Do you capitalize it?
	What's your ETA? Technically, you should capitalize it because it's an acronym.
	But you don't...
	Yeah, but the ETA is without dots, without periods, so it's just ETA. You wouldn't put the dot in there.
	You're trying to save your space on Twitter.
	That's one, two, three characters you'd be wasting.
	This is not good.
	Car bomb, jihad, Taliban, weapons cash, suicide bomber, suicide attack, suspicious substance, AQAP, AQIM, TTP, Yemen, pirates.
	How about them Pittsburgh pirates?
	Extremism, Somalia, Nigeria, radicals, al-Shabaab, homegrown, plot, nationalist, recruitment, fundamentalist, Islamist, fundamentalism.
	No wonder we spend $18 billion on these idiots.
	That's crazy.
	But this list, it goes on.
	Domestic assassination, attack, domestic security, drill, exercise, cops.
	Drill?
	Hey, I went to the hardware supply and got that new drill.
	Oh, hold on a second.
	You have been flagged?
	We have you flagged, sir?
	Disaster assistance.
	Let's see what else you might use.
	Police, hostage, deaths, evacuation, shots fired!
	Militia, initiative, maritime domain awareness.
	How many times did you tweet that?
	What?!
	Emergency management, first responder, homeland security, gangs, SWAT, standoff, threat, screening, lockdown, bomb, crash, looting, riot, emergency landing, pipe bomb, incident, facility, gas, spillover, blister agent, chemical agent, chemical, chemical burn, biological, epidemic, toxic, hazmat, nuclear, radiation, plume, cloud.
	There you go.
	Cloud.
	Cloud?
	Yes.
	How would you use cloud in a tweet?
	Yeah, you know, I really think these cloud computing initiatives...
	I could probably work in two or three of these words.
	Uh, suck.
	Mr.
	D.C. Ballerant.
	Open up the door, Jimmy Dyer!
	Now!
	There you go.
	The insanity that is the Homeland Security apparatus.
	So sad.
	Just sad.
	Sad, sad, sad.
	So anyway, so Frontline had this thing on...
	I mean, again, everyone should watch it.
	Uh...
	You ever heard of this guy, Kofor Black?
	Yeah, why does that name ring a bell?
	Well, I didn't hear of him before this.
	By the way, what kind of a name is Kofor?
	It's like Rance Priebus.
	Yeah, exactly.
	These males with these crazy names, you have to track down, you should look him up on the images so you can see what a dour character he is.
	He was, Covert Blank's a former CIA official who was appointed ambassador at large and coordinator for counter-terrorism by George Bush.
	No, no, I've seen him on like the CNNs or something.
	Yeah, he's just grim.
	He's got a downturn mouth.
	He doesn't look like a happy guy.
	He's the kind of guy you go, turn that frown upside down.
	So let's play a little bit of what this front line is about.
	It's about essentially accusing the U.S. government of going into a top secret mode where everything is a secret and decisions that were done.
	The country is over.
	Oh, okay.
	So it's uplifting is what you're saying.
	Yeah, so play the Cofer Black clip and we'll get into it.
	Now we've got about five clips we'll play, maybe four, maybe three.
	And we were gathering bit by bit.
	It's going to be vital for us to use any means at our disposal to achieve our objective.
	It really took years to figure out how big it really was, and we were shocked.
	For Priest, one of the first hints of the secret war was revealed at this congressional hearing.
	When I speak, I think the American people need to look into my face.
	And I want to look the American people in the eye.
	My name is Kofor Black.
	Kofor Black was in charge of the CIA's counter-terrorism efforts.
	This is a very highly classified area.
	All you need to know is that there was a before 9-11 and there was an after 9-11.
	After 9-11, the gloves come off.
	Beyond that, Black refused to divulge any details.
	They just wanted no information out.
	I think the reality is that they wanted to keep it secret because they were doing things that a lot of people would not approve of.
	And they wanted to do them as long as they could without being found out.
	Right on.
	So they go on and on with this thing, and now we have a clip that, which I think was a good one, the government of secrets clip, and we'll continue with this, and then we'll discuss maybe after one more.
	For the first time, the White House had approved the building of an international prison system entirely in secret.
	The amount of secrecy is phenomenal.
	The desire and the willingness of government to operate in secret and to deny the public, the media, the basic facts about what they were doing was all inclusive.
	We were falling deeper and deeper into a secretly run government.
	And the secrecy was spreading.
	At the Pentagon by 2002, Donald Rumsfeld was waging his own covert campaign inside the Defense Department.
	I love that guy's voice, by the way.
	Oh, no, he's got the world's greatest voice.
	We wouldn't be doing this show if either one of us had that voice.
	No, we'd be getting laid left and right, dude.
	Totally.
	That guy's voice, yeah.
	Hi, why don't you take off your dress right now?
	It shows where we started to see the split between CIA and the Defense Department because the CIA was doing all kinds of things.
	In fact, we'll play the Greystone versus the military clip and then one more clip after that.
	You can see that there's these fights going on between these agencies.
	Right, which we've identified many times.
	Many times.
	And this show really nails it, though, with a lot more drama than we've ever been able to put together.
	That sets in motion the largest covert action program since the height of the Cold War.
	And many people inside the agency will say it's even larger than that.
	Now, basically, in a nanosecond, we're going from where we were staked to the ground like a junkyard dog.
	You can report, but you can't do anything, to new authorities, new rules of engagement, lots of funding to support this.
	This is a whole new ballgame.
	Within two weeks in Afghanistan, the first phase of Greystone began.
	My team, there were seven officers, including myself and three aircrew, flew in on the 26th of September.
	And when I began to distribute money, $200,000 here, $250,000 for this, I think the Afghans were convinced that we were sincere.
	The action was planned to be classic.
	CIA is going to be a multi-prone threat attack where we work with locals, minimize the American footprint.
	CIA officers, of course, in Afghanistan, for the first time since World War II, are involved in battlefields and combat operations, doing things that we hadn't done in 60 years.
	So I think it's kind of a shock to the military.
	The CIA went in right off the bat, hooked up with the Northern Alliance, and it was really quite remarkable what they accomplished with so few people on the ground.
	It didn't take long for the Taliban to fall.
	The CIA had demonstrated it could fight effectively in the shadows.
	We'd like the survivors of 9-11 to know that those of us in the business consider it the CIA's finest hour.
	We went in to kick ass and we did.
	Yeah, and that was Black as well who was talking there, right?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, I've heard him.
	So I haven't seen this front line, but I've heard him with this spiel before where he said it was our finest hour.
	We went in to kick ass.
	We kicked their ass.
	It's like a competition between him and that bearded guy.
	Yeah, but then the whole idea was...
	And also Richard Clark, Dick Clark, the other one.
	So after that ass-kicking, that's when W. Bush did the whole Mission Accomplished thing.
	That's the timeline of it.
	Exactly.
	And in the show, they show how Rumsfeld was propagating the formula.
	Actually, he was sick of the CIA taking all this credit because the military needed it.
	So you can play this clip, JSOC versus CIA, which has got some interesting facts in it.
	Using conventional war authorities, they did it all with less oversight than the CIA. So in the past, covert action was done by CIA. The president had to approve covert action and notify the Congress.
	Now, a lot of what looks like the same sort of thing, covert action, is done by Jay Saka.
	Now they say, when they do it, it's not covert action.
	It's a military operation.
	So the president does not, by law, have to approve every operation.
	And the intelligence committees are not notified.
	This is...
	Can we discuss for a second?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	And by the way, I have a feeling I might have seen this.
	Was this a repeat?
	I don't know if...
	I don't think so.
	Let me look.
	I've never seen it before and I thought it was...
	It might have been a repeat.
	No, it can't be a repeat because it brings in the Boston bombing.
	Wow, because I've heard Black talk about this.
	Here's what's so crazy.
	If you just step back, and this is what we kind of like to do here at the No Agenda show.
	Step back for a second, and you look at how evil...
	The United States really is.
	And the evil things that, as a country, we are capable of doing for basically profit, for profit for natural resources, for dominance, for cockswinging, whatever it is, Yet, individually, if you look at what Americans are made up of, man, we're really, really good people.
	And we have our heart in the right place.
	But I think there's like a gene or something that has been switched off.
	It's not like it's missing, but it's been switched off.
	And I'm not quite sure how they did it.
	But, oh man, if we find out how to turn it back on, there's going to be blood on the moon, as my mom would say.
	Have you ever heard this expression?
	No.
	She said, Adam Clark Curry, if I see you do that, there'll be blood on the moon.
	Which I think meant she would bludgeon me.
	That the moon would be splattered, but I'm not quite sure.
	That would fly a long ways.
	Alright, so let's go.
	I'm opening up the round table for a discussion here.
	Yeah, well, I think you're right.
	I think there is something that's screwing.
	You get this guy like Kofor Black, and again, why do you name your kid Kofor or Rand?
	Or Rand, for that matter.
	Rand is another one.
	Why would you name your kid Rand after a think tank?
	Let me name my kid after a think tank.
	Maybe you wanted to name him Randy, and you dropped dead of a heart attack before you could get the last thing.
	I want to name him Rand.
	It's possible.
	The Kofar is not a short for anything.
	Come on, this name has got to be from something.
	Kofar.
	Isn't that like Kofi?
	Kofar or not?
	Yeah, but that's what an African name is.
	What is this guy's getting?
	Anything but African.
	There's got to be Kofar Family Crest and Name History.
	That's a last name.
	Kofar meaning...
	Oh, it's Germanic.
	Oh, here we go.
	It's from occupational, it's a spelling of the German Kofer, occupational name from Slavic Kovar, Kofer, with an umlaut.
	So he had been Kovar.
	Kovar the Magnificent!
	So he's a Nazi.
	There you go.
	That makes sense.
	Yeah.
	We figured it out.
	Good work.
	The joke is, here's the joke of it, that's his middle name.
	Oh, really?
	He's really Joseph Koffer Black.
	So why would you, as an individual, choose that as your first name when it's a lunacy?
	I am proud of my German heritage.
	That is why.
	Do not ask these questions, Jean-Claude.
	Why do you not use your French middle name of Claude?
	Because it's not my middle name.
	Yes, it is.
	You are Jean-Claude Dvorak.
	So, anyway.
	Yeah, no, I think this is true.
	But kind of the thing that was begun...
	Let me ask you a question.
	Sorry to interrupt.
	I understand how your parents came up with John.
	They had clearly no imagination.
	Yeah.
	What do you call it?
	John or something.
	Pete?
	Yeah, it's a good name.
	John, okay.
	Biblical name.
	All right, John.
	Very popular.
	Okay.
	You know what?
	Why would you name your kid Adam?
	It's like the lamest name ever.
	No, it's a great name.
	It's a good biblical name.
	You're like the first.
	You're the pod father.
	I went through hell.
	You did?
	Why would anybody give a crap?
	Adam just sounded like a name.
	It's not like a crazy name.
	This is why I'm allowed to talk.
	I was bullied.
	I was bullied severely.
	For having the name Adam?
	Yes.
	Hey Adam, where's Eve?
	That is exactly like every asshole that I ever witnessed in school.
	You just did it right there.
	Yeah.
	I can do that, guys.
	Okay, so you have to understand.
	When you move around, when you're like an quote-unquote army brat and you come into new schools all the time, You know, you can't...
	As a kid, you just want to blend in.
	Like, why can't my name be...
	What would you want?
	David?
	John?
	Gary?
	John would be fine.
	Hey, John.
	Hey, man.
	We're like, Adam.
	Wow.
	We're going to ruin our show.
	What?
	This show would suck with two Johns.
	John.
	Yeah, you're right.
	We're going to ruin the show.
	I'm used to it now, and now I'm happy.
	But as a kid, actually, I think it was character building.
	So maybe that's why.
	Maybe Cofer.
	Character building.
	Character building.
	Hey, Adam Curry!
	Where's Eve?
	Hey, man, where's Eve?
	What kind of name is that?
	Those bullies have got some dynamite material.
	And then they would sit on my head.
	Oh, I hated that.
	Mark Redmond.
	Fart on his head.
	It was worse.
	He'd be like, hey, want to come over and play?
	I'm like, I don't know, man.
	Last time you sat on my head.
	No, no, no.
	It's cool.
	Let me show you this new tape recorder I have.
	I'm like, oh, that's cool.
	Then, boom, you'd be sitting on my head.
	Yeah.
	That was the meanest thing ever.
	Sitting on my head.
	Poor guy.
	Now, it'd be like sitting on a chair.
	You have a big head.
	All right.
	You have a broadcasting head.
	I've got a head for broadcasting.
	So anyway, we'll wrap a couple more of these things off.
	Here's the final Iraq clip, which I don't remember what it is, but we'll just play it.
	And then I got the conclusion, which I thought was interesting.
	Pulled away.
	By 2002 in the springtime, it was almost taken for granted that we were going to go to war with Iraq.
	The president needed a convincing reason for war with Saddam Hussein.
	George Tenet and the CIA said they had no evidence Saddam had helped Al-Qaeda.
	But Secretary Rumsfeld did.
	A secret unit at the Pentagon claimed it had found a connection.
	They needed an office that would produce the intelligence that the CIA wouldn't produce.
	Rumsfeld said, I can solve your problem.
	And they created the Office of Special Plans.
	Which I think was off the Paramount lot, was it not?
	Bless the office of making it up.
	So they're going to do their own analysis, and they're going to show what the CIA has been missing all along about the true relationship between Saddam and Al-Qaeda.
	They worked in a vault deep inside the Pentagon.
	They had what is known as all-source clearances, total access to intelligence information.
	I went into the system, our classified system, to see what did we know about terrorist groups and their relationships.
	As well as their connection and associations with not only Al-Qaeda, but also...
	This guy is for real when he said Al-Qaeda.
	Did you hear that?
	Yeah.
	Al-Qaeda.
	Is he from Israel?
	Al-Qaeda.
	I don't know.
	I can't visualize this guy.
	Probably.
	It might be.
	I think this is the official pronunciation.
	I think we should...
	Al-Qaeda.
	I think you and I should start doing that.
	Maybe.
	Al-Qaeda.
	State sponsors.
	The information was rarely vetted.
	Instead, it moved up the chain of command to the office of the vice president.
	And this became material that was then used, sort of in white paper-like fashion, to be leaked to journalists or to create links between Saddam Hussein and Al Qaeda.
	It was delivered to the American public and the world.
	Information has come to light.
	I spent time looking at that relationship between Iraq on the one hand and the Al-Qaeda organization on the other.
	Al-Qaeda!
	And there has been reporting that suggests that there have been a number of contacts over the years.
	And they began relying on a new phrase.
	Weapons of mass destruction.
	By the way, I decided we needed our music.
	There you go.
	So they, and by the way, so the CIA says, which we knew this because we followed the whole thing.
	The CIA says, look, we got nothing.
	And so they dream up a bunch of stuff.
	We'll start our own agency.
	You don't know nothing, you guys.
	You're not helping anybody.
	So they start their own bullcrap agency, make a bunch of stuff up, and then run it up the flagpole, leak it to the press, do all the rest of it.
	And then in the end, when the whole thing's a fiasco, they blame the CIA. I just thought this was rich.
	That's great.
	Meanwhile, I'm watching these two shows.
	Hold on, let me ask you something.
	You mean when the weapons of mass destruction, when that turned out not to be true, they blamed the CIA for it, right?
	Yeah, exactly.
	So it was JSOC? Yeah, Joint Special Operations Command.
	Who had all source clearances.
	Yeah, they could do whatever they wanted.
	So they've gone berserk.
	So I'm listening to these two shows.
	This is the point I'm trying to make, is that one show, the NOVA show with the bullcrap, and they also blamed intelligence failings, and it was, again, blaming the CIA for stuff.
	Ah, wait a minute.
	So you're saying NOVA equals CIA great, frontline...
	No, no, no, just the opposite.
	Equals CIA bad, frontline equals CIA great?
	Yeah.
	Oh, wow.
	So we have warring media productions?
	Yeah.
	I'm thinking that's what's going on.
	Okay, so we need to do a whole, we can do a documentary.
	When Nova learned of the travesty of the CIA, Jenny Jardin came into action and got her boyfriend to produce a documentary in Boston.
	This was not going to stand well with the frontline production team.
	So the Frontline goes off and they do their conclusion, which is just the opposite of the conclusion of the previous show, Nova, which is we're great, we got this guy.
	And here's what the Frontline conclusion is, which just sticks it to the other guys.
	And then John asked to play a clip, but Adam didn't know what the name of the clip was.
	Oh, wait.
	It was labeled Frontline Conclusion.
	One, there are police and SWAT vehicles streaming in that direction.
	The overwhelming presence of law enforcement.
	The hardware of Top Secret America rolled out in hot pursuit.
	Police have told people to stay home with the windows.
	Police are going door to door looking for the remaining bombing suspect.
	Suspect number two has been cornered in the backyard of a home.
	We heard police talking about, he's in a boat, he's in a boat channel.
	Once again, it was only after a tip from an observant citizen that police finally got their man.
	Apparently a woman called in a record of blood in a backyard leading to a boat.
	She called authorities.
	That led them to this scene.
	I'm in custody.
	Nobody has to come into the perimeter.
	It's still on scene.
	In the wake of the Boston bombing, the question remains, has Top Secret America made us any safer?
	And I will point out, John, that they used the exact same clip again.
	It's a hot scene.
	Yeah, I noticed.
	Um, this was, uh, what was the name of this episode?
	Top Secret America.
	Okay, hold on a second.
	Let's see who produced it.
	Secret...
	Because we know that Jenny Jardin's boyfriend produced the Nova...
	This guy must love being referenced that way.
	Well...
	Tough shit.
	Tough shit.
	That's how it goes.
	Tough shit, man.
	Tough shit.
	That's right.
	Find a different girlfriend.
	He's the boyfriend and that's the way it is.
	Let's see.
	Top Secret America Pulitzer Prize winning...
	Dana Priest...
	Okay, Dana Priest, who is the woman's voice in most of this, has said they had a couple of shills we see all the time on CNN, including the pretty girl that worked for the CIA. Well, but she's getting the credit, so I'd say that she produced.
	No, she did.
	And here's the deal with her.
	She is the one, if you recall, because they only brought this up once, she's the one that works for the Washington Post.
	Who blew out, and this was about a year and a half ago, that map of all the subcontractors to all these intelligence agencies across the country, turning the entire country basically blood red, With all these little operations that are being financed here and there.
	In fact, part of the show is her driving around with a real estate guy in some part of somewhere.
	And the guy says, oh yeah, there's a Defense Department DIA operation in that building.
	Right, right, right, right, right.
	It's actually quite entertaining.
	The whole show is good.
	So, whose side is she on then, just so I have it straight?
	I'm suspecting...
	That she is on the side of the old-fashioned CIA. Old school, right?
	Old school.
	Well, in February 2006, she was awarded the George Polk Award for national reporting for her November 2005 article on secret CIA detention facilities in foreign countries.
	She's the one who busted that.
	Right.
	So she's probably like Uncle Don's buddy.
	Because he's old school like that.
	Is that what you're saying?
	Yeah, that's what I'm thinking.
	Interesting.
	You know what?
	She's cute.
	Because I came away with a kind of...
	You come away because you have to not only analyze the show, but you got to see how it emotionally affected you so you can kind of analyze that and see if they're pulled it off.
	And you come away with, wow, you know, these guys are great.
	But, you know, it's all screwed up now because everything's a secret and they got these prisons and Rumsfeld's a bad guy and Cheney's a creep.
	No, that's true because Uncle Don also hates Rumsfeld.
	Yeah, that would make sense.
	She's kind of cute, too.
	Dana Priest.
	Dana Priest!
	Oh, yeah.
	She's older.
	Oh, yeah.
	I was looking at an older picture.
	Yeah.
	No, but I like that.
	She's nice.
	She's milfy.
	Well, she did a wonderful job on busting out all these little, with that map.
	It was a scandal.
	And, you know, of course it blew over like everything else because you can't do anything.
	Yeah, because Edith of Archie Bunker died today, so that'll be the news.
	Move that up a notch.
	That'll be the news.
	That's it.
	That's it, everybody.
	Above the fold.
	There's nothing else.
	Let me see.
	I do have two quick...
	1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2.
	2, 1, 2.
	Check.
	2, 1, 2.
	I got one.
	Maybe just one.
	Do you have anything else?
	I got one clip about the first...
	I always said this Florida story about this poor 18-year-old girl who got railroaded when she was 16 or 17.
	I guess she had this girlfriend in high school.
	She was 14.
	Is that the tear gas, John?
	Are you okay?
	You know, Adam, it's getting pretty bad out here.
	The tear gas.
	I need that music.
	Crowdhammer on Benghazi.
	I love the way these guys are trying to keep this story alive.
	Oh, hold on a second.
	We should talk about the Obama story, too, on top of that, because I came up with a thought about this.
	Okay, hold on.
	My whole system, ever since I started playing the serious music, my system's not working so well.
	The biggest scandal of all, the biggest question of all is, what was the president doing in those eight hours?
	Who does he call?
	About five hours in, he calls the Secretary of State.
	It looks as if the only phone call was to construct a cover story at a time when the last two Americans who died were still alive and fighting for their lives.
	There's the scandal, and that, I think, has got to be uncovered.
	Okay, so I'm glad you brought this up because my sources tell me the president was stoned off his ass and that that's why no one could get a hold of him.
	That's why it's so unclear where he was.
	It doesn't really matter that he didn't show up.
	I have thoughts on this.
	I think he was incapacitated and I will say he was stoned.
	Well, and it would be on Coke, I believe, and marijuana.
	And weed.
	And weed and Coke, yep.
	Weed and Coke, because that's what your source said.
	Yep.
	Now, here's what I'm thinking.
	Here's my thoughts on this.
	This is, of course, very speculative.
	We have no evidence whatsoever.
	Unlike the weed and Coke, which is so certain.
	Yeah, we were sure of that.
	So my thinking was, this was, again, the kidnapping was underway.
	Yep.
	And the election was now a done deal, and he was celebrating.
	Oh, interesting.
	No, I don't think so.
	I don't think the election was a done deal yet.
	I think he knew that this was going to be a great coup.
	He's got this kidnapping thing.
	He's done.
	He's got it.
	He's going to celebrate.
	Oh, okay.
	I'm sorry.
	Yes, okay.
	I see what you're saying.
	Because the kidnapping was taking place, and of course it started...
	Time to celebrate.
	Let's open the bottle cone.
	He was popping bottles in the club.
	Absolutely.
	And by the way, everybody was in on it.
	That's why all the stand-down orders came.
	Everyone knew.
	Ah, yeah, stand-down.
	Is that kidnapping thing we all talked about?
	Ixnay on the kidnapping K thing?
	Yeah, right.
	I believe that too.
	Now, here's where it gets even weirder in terms of deconstructing.
	So, five hours go by, the whole thing falls apart.
	He's wasted.
	Wait, wait, wait.
	The no agenda players.
	Dude, I'm so baked.
	I'm so baked, man.
	I've got to explain it before we can do the baked.
	Okay, I'm sorry.
	Set me up.
	There's a little angle here.
	All right, set me up, buttercup.
	I can't do it as a sketch.
	All right, set me up.
	No, here's the deal.
	The thing fell apart.
	He is wired on cocaine.
	He's the one, because he's a cocaine idea, to dream up this video bullcrap.
	I got an idea.
	I got an idea.
	Muslims take this shit.
	Yeah.
	Anyone who knows anyone who's like white line marketing, you know, the guys are, they're all over the place.
	They're strung out on coke.
	Hey, dude.
	Hey So anyway, that's my little add-on to that thesis.
	I think you're told, I think, and you know, people may think we're insane when we say this.
	I know they do.
	Well, it's entertaining, but nah, no way.
	No way.
	Too many people would know about it.
	That would leak out.
	Yeah, too many people would know about a whole ship full of them on the Gulf of Tonkin.
	There was an entire ship that knew that was not known.
	In the morning.
	Nah.
	I love it when John C. Dvorak of all people in the universe is fighting the conspiracy theory label.
	That is just so funny to me.
	I mean, to my source, I think, well, who the hell knows?
	But it's reasonably reliable.
	And if you go back, I don't think we actually played all of the clips that I had.
	Remember, it was on Bob Schieffer.
	Okay, now I'm going to see if I can find this clip.
	It would be kind of funny if I could find it.
	Man, where was the president?
	I have no idea what I named this clip.
	But they sent out, a couple weeks ago, they sent out some, not like a chief of staff, but some guy, and he was on all the talk shows, and And at certain points, like, you know, who are you and why are you here talking about all this?
	Do you remember this?
	Yeah, vaguely.
	I do remember it vaguely.
	And this is...
	Yeah, another one of these new faces.
	It's like the guy in the red uniform on the Star Trek, original Star Trek.
	It's a new guy on the set.
	Uh-oh.
	He's a goner.
	Ha, ha, ha.
	Hold on a second.
	Why are you here?
	I wish I could find this clip.
	It's not going to...
	I'm not digging up for Thursday.
	But anyway, and the guy is dodging the question.
	Like, where was the president?
	Where was the president?
	How come the president...
	Just tell me.
	Where was he?
	Was he asleep?
	Was he bowling?
	Was he having a burger?
	Was he watching TV? And the guy can't answer the question.
	Have you seen this?
	Yeah, I remember.
	This has been going on for a while.
	In fact, it shows up in these committee hearings every so often.
	This is really pissing me off.
	I want to find this.
	I have this clip.
	I have it somewhere.
	I really do.
	Meanwhile, while I'm looking for that, since this is so apropos, The First Amendment, which actually I listened to that bit we did again, and I thought it was quite good, where we remind people that the First Amendment of the United States Constitution is not a right to free speech.
	You have that right inherently as a sovereign human being.
	Oh, I said the sovereign word.
	I'm going to get arrested.
	Get black bagged.
	You have the right to free speech, you have the right to freedom of religion, and we have all agreed that the press has the right to freedom to report as they see fit.
	The First Amendment of the United States Constitution is specifically saying the government and Congress, okay, so that's the governing body of the United States government, may not make any law against this, may not make any law against this, may not.
	So it's very important to understand that subtle yet very important difference.
	And Tom Brokaw, a guy, I kind of respect him.
	He goes on and says, oh, well, you know, what's this whole thing?
	He doesn't actually say it about, oh, you know, 200 years ago, we didn't have the Internet.
	We had muskets.
	But he says something which I found equally frightening.
	A remark that journalists, on the other hand, shouldn't have what you call the glass jaw when it comes to some of these investigations citing the First Amendment and threats to the First Amendment.
	Well, the First Amendment is a critically important part of the Constitution.
	It is not unconditional, obviously.
	Any number of us over the years have been in dialogues and in conversations with senior government officials about when something can be disclosed and under what circumstances.
	And it's kind of case by case.
	It's not unconditional.
	Really now?
	It's kind of case by case?
	Are you kidding me?
	What's he talking about?
	About what you can say and what you can't say.
	I found it, by the way.
	I found the clip in my fantastic system, the Freedom Controller, designed to give you maximum freedom over Facebook, Twitter, and G+. Here we go.
	Here's the clip.
	Dan Pfeiffer is the guy's name.
	When they don't have a positive agenda, try to drag Washington into a swamp of partisan fishing expeditions, trumped-up hearings, and false allegations.
	We're not going to let that distract us and the president from actually doing the people's work and fighting for the middle class.
	You know, I don't want to compare this in any way to Watergate.
	I do not think this is Watergate by any stretch.
	However, But you weren't born then, I would guess.
	But I have to tell you, that is exactly the approach that the Nixon administration took.
	I like that, by the way, when Schieffer does that.
	We don't have time for this.
	We have to devote our time to the people's business.
	You're taking exactly the same line that they did.
	Mr.
	Pfeiffer, and I don't mean to be argumentative here, but the president is in charge of the executive branch of the government.
	It's my...
	I'll just make this as an assertion.
	When the executive branch does things right, there doesn't seem to be any...
	Hesitancy of the White House to take credit for that.
	When Osama Bin Laden was killed, the President didn't waste any time getting out there and telling people about it.
	But with all of these things, when these things happen, you seem to send out officials many times who don't even seem to know what has happened.
	And I use it as an example of that, Susan Rice, who had no connection.
	I hope this is the clip, otherwise it would be quite a shame.
	To the events that took place in Benghazi, and yet she was sent out, appeared on this broadcast and other Sunday broadcasts, five days after it happened.
	Maybe not.
	And I'm not here to get in an argument with you about who changed which word in the talking points and all that.
	The bottom line is, what she told the American people that day bore no resemblance to what had happened on the ground in an incident where four Americans were killed.
	It's a compilation clip, so here's the last one.
	But what I'm saying to you is, that was just PR. That was just a PR plan, to send out somebody who didn't know anything about what had happened.
	Why did you do that?
	Why didn't the Secretary of State come and tell us what they knew?
	And if you knew nothing, say, we don't know yet.
	Why didn't the White House Chief of Staff come out?
	I mean, I would, and I mean this is no disrespect to you, why are you here today?
	Why isn't the White House Chief of Staff here to tell us what?
	No, that's not the clip.
	Crap!
	It's a good one, though.
	Why are you here?
	Well, you can see Schaefer kept being brought into the picture because of the fuss they made over Rice's bullcrap, and mostly on his show.
	Yeah, exactly.
	He sounded irked.
	I never heard that clip before.
	That's a good one.
	Dig up the other clip for the Thursday show.
	We've got to get out of here.
	I will.
	Yeah, because it's a good clip.
	It's pretty funny that way.
	Anyway, yes, so we'll do some of that work for sure.
	Happy to bow down!
	Do some work!
	Meanwhile, I'll be broadcasting on 10.140 MHz on QRSS. So get your grabbers ready.
	Yeah, you're up to three.
	Three what?
	Chips.
	Chips?
	Chips.
	I thought you were going to go up to ships.
	Chips, yeah.
	Yeah, that's going to be hard.
	Sundays are the worst.
	Are you going to give up already?
	No, I'm going to try.
	I'm going to try.
	I just wanted to get all the subs.
	I thought talking to the subs would be cool.
	But you're right.
	So, Wayne, are you telling me there's a ham, like, in the sub?
	Oh, yeah.
	Well, they're using the original equipment.
	They're using their Army, Navy, Navy equipment, Marine equipment.
	They're using the sub's radios?
	Yeah, yeah.
	Well, they can blow all over the place with that gear.
	Yeah, but it's me blowing to them that's the problem, you see.
	I see.
	All right, everybody.
	We'll be back on Thursday.
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