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	Tasty new weed.
	Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak.
	It's Sunday, April 21st, 2013.
	Time for your Gitmo Nation Media Assassination, episode 506.
	This is no agenda.
	Deconstructing mainstream media bullcrap since 2007.
	From the Travis Heights Hideout, where SoCo meets MoFo in Austin, Texas.
	In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley, where it's sunny again, and there are no SWAT teams.
	I'm John C. Dvorak.
	I'm Adam Curry.
	Yeah, good try.
	Good try.
	You're still kind of...
	Like you do.
	Give me a little level, will you?
	Okay.
	Give me some level.
	Talk for a moment.
	Let me pull this...
	Just talking to the microphone, that would help.
	I'm talking...
	What do you think I'm talking?
	You're going like...
	What do you mean?
	I don't know what you're talking about.
	Tell me you're on the Shays Lounge again.
	I'm on the Shays Lounge.
	And you're...
	Puma and Anthony for the 20th time.
	It's a fascinating tale.
	What, in the New York Times?
	Yeah.
	Again?
	No, it's just sitting on its desk.
	Oh, okay.
	All right.
	Well, in the morning to you, John C. Dvorak.
	Good morning to you, Adam Curry.
	In the morning, all ships and sea, boots on the ground, feet in the air, shoves in the water, and all the dames and knights out there.
	And in the morning to the chat room, who are standing by, as always, human resources there, depleting their $9.2 million value at noagendastream.com, noagendachat.net.
	Was it someone who wrote us a note that they were in a meeting at their office and someone said, boots on the ground, and he instinctively, like in a Pavlovian manner, said, feet in the air!
	Yeah, he did.
	And everyone went, uh, dude?
	What is your problem?
	Are you okay?
	I like that.
	What do you mean?
	What do you mean, feet in the air, man?
	Yeah, what does that mean?
	What's up with that?
	What's up with that?
	Well...
	So what happened this week, anything?
	Yeah, I'm so...
	Keystone cops at work.
	Oh my God, if I... I swear to God...
	One thousand cops take down kids.
	Right here in my notes, I have keystone cops.
	I literally have keystone cops in my notes.
	You know, I have spent...
	Ever since we got off the air on Thursday, I have been emailing, talking, actually had in my home people who understand how these things work, three-letter agencies, trying to piece together this complete nonsensical story that is being bullcrapped throughout the ether.
	And I think I have some reasonable theories on what happened here.
	And I'm just wondering if I should...
	Well, before, I've got the perfect clip to set this up.
	Oh, thank you.
	Good, good, good, good.
	Which is the rundown clip, which was...
	I couldn't believe this clip.
	Obviously somebody produced it, and I think they passed it around to a lot of local stations.
	But it was the complete rundown.
	Of all the activity, once they figure out who it was in their escape attempt, right to the finish.
	And it's loaded with all kinds of embellishments and sound.
	Sound effects?
	Sound effects?
	Yes!
	It's great!
	I take it this is the blow-by-blow report.
	Exactly.
	Back to you.
	Alright, Vanita, thank you.
	Well, the manhunt ended about 27 hours after the FBI released the suspect's photos.
	Here's a closer look at how it all went down.
	Closer?
	The chaos began late last night.
	Police called to a shooting on the MIT campus.
	University police officer Sean Collier was ambushed in his patrol car and killed.
	At 11.30 Boston time, police say the brothers carjacked a man a few blocks away in Cambridge.
	They told the driver they were the marathon bombers.
	Whoa!
	Hey, let me show you my calling card here.
	It's a marathon bomber.
	Oh, cool.
	All right, where do you want to go?
	Which is so in line with what, you know, they just killed all these people.
	I was like, but we're letting you go.
	Don't worry about it, bro.
	The camera captured this image of Jokar.
	Police caught up to the stolen car around 1 a.m.
	Then, a running gun battle.
	Explosives thrown from the car.
	They have explosives, some type of grenades.
	They're in between the houses down here.
	Then, it got worse.
	Police say Tamerlan approached them with a pressure cooker bomb, but it malfunctioned.
	Loud explosion, loud explosion, loud explosion.
	Charge by, charge by.
	Wow.
	Wow!
	More than 200 rounds of ammunition were exchanged.
	Officer Richard Donahue was shot and critically wounded.
	Tamerlan Sunaev, dead.
	Wow!
	So, of course, the officer, I'm sure, was shot by these 200 rounds that were flying.
	He was shot by friendly fire.
	Oh, my goodness.
	Oh, my goodness.
	This is...
	That's a great clip.
	And it's just...
	Yeah, I mean, we could have produced that, too, by the way.
	That's pretty good.
	Is there any more to it?
	No, that's it.
	It ended.
	It seems like there should be more, but...
	There was, actually.
	It ended with...
	It's funny, because I must have misclipped it, which I've done.
	It ends with more sound effects, and then the cheering crowds.
	Oh, wait a minute.
	How can this be?
	Let me just double-check and make sure that I didn't somehow cut it off.
	Well, okay.
	I'm looking for that.
	First of all...
	I mean, so I've heard at least four times this young kid's name be mispronounced, or maybe correctly pronounced as Jokar.
	Joker?
	Yes, Joker.
	Joker.
	Naturalized citizen on September 11, 2012.
	Explosion at 666 Boylston Street in Boston.
	Please, you're insulting me now.
	666.
	I missed that one.
	You're really insulting me with all of this stuff.
	Now...
	Of course I have some clips because regardless of what happened here, everyone's taking advantage of it.
	What is no longer working is the idea that it appears a lot of people are very disappointed in the media that it was not like a white dude with a cowboy hat with a confederate flag You know, good old boy in a pickup truck, you know, waiting to blow up some people because, you know, we've got a black man in the White House.
	And I hate taxes.
	I hate taxes.
	We're missing that meme.
	So that didn't pan out.
	That obviously, a lot of people were very disappointed about that.
	But, of course, we have no motive.
	This is the big hole.
	And I knew that it was all messed up.
	And it was kind of after we had finished the show on Thursday...
	Where the FBI says, okay, we've got pictures.
	They pull the...
	I found it really funny, by the way.
	I don't know if you saw the press conference.
	So the FBI does a press conference.
	Everyone's waiting.
	It's supposed to be at 5, and it's like 5.05, 10 past 5.
	And there's two easels.
	And on the easels, of course, they have a picture of suspect Bomber 1 and Bomber 2.
	Bomber 1 and Bomber 2.
	And I'm blown away that there's all this media sitting there seeing clearly the draped easels.
	I mean, if you're like a real journalist, you go up there, you pull off the frickin' thing and take a look at what's behind the easel.
	Everyone's like, no, we'll just wait.
	We'll wait.
	It's ten more minutes.
	We'll wait patiently.
	We'll wait patiently.
	We'll wait so they can spoon feed us whatever it is they're going to spoon feed us.
	And so when they release these pictures...
	What was blatantly missing from a real manhunt description is approximate height, what kind of creed or race these actors appear to have or to be.
	None of that.
	It's like, watch this video.
	Oh, yeah.
	And then for hours after that, everyone on television is like, It's like, well, look at this.
	Oh, he looks like he has a limp.
	Oh, he's bow-legged.
	Yeah.
	Everyone's like, Dick Tracy now.
	I'm sorry, NCIS. But clearly, they knew who this was.
	And when you lock down a city, which, you know, this is not, the governor or the mayor doesn't, like, just lock down the city.
	This has to come from the feds.
	Yeah, the FBI. Yeah, that pretty much only happens when you know exactly who you're going after, and you pretty much know what this guy's going to do or where he's going to be.
	I mean, a lockdown of a city, that's a huge deal, which I love...
	Apparently, according to Richard...
	Or as our seemingly inebriated friend revealed some monetary amount.
	You might want to play this clip.
	Because we're watching that podium awaiting the president.
	A sentence from you, Dick Clark, after that press conference.
	Well, I'm so happy that it turned out this way.
	But we do have to admit that two individuals, just two individuals, did terrorize a great metropolitan area and horrified a lot of people who were pinned down in their houses today and did cause an enormous amount of damage and financial damage as well.
	One estimate of $350 million lost today because Boston was pinned down.
	The purpose of terrorism, Lenin said, was to terrorize.
	They certainly did that.
	It's funny because I saw reports, 333 million.
	Oh, you think if anyone was going to drop the meme out, that would be him?
	Yeah.
	You knew who this was, right?
	You know, this guy.
	Yeah, Dick Clark, sure.
	Yeah, Dick Clark.
	Dick.
	But I read 333 million.
	That's what the headline was.
	I thought he was going to say 333, but he said 350, huh?
	Whatever the case is, whether it was a code or...
	We already got the code 33 all over the place.
	But it was some great amount of money because you can't shut down a city like this.
	So it essentially gets one kid.
	And by the way, while we're on the topic, talking about terrorists, what about the Mexican mafia?
	That M5 group and all these gangs that are all over the place.
	During this episode where they're tracking down this one kid, two...
	dead in Richmond.
	They didn't shut down Richmond.
	They're probably not even going to try to catch this guy.
	I mean, this whole thing is so weird because it's like theater of the highest order while people are actually being terrorized by the Mexican gangs in California and elsewhere and the meth lab people and all the rest of it.
	Nobody says anything about that.
	But you got these two boneheads, you know, that were...
	The whole thing is just lame.
	And then they shut down Boston.
	They shut down Newtown.
	It was for two guys that were easily caught, apparently.
	One shot in the car.
	Let me give you my theory.
	And then we can kind of back into that.
	And there is a part of the theory that I mentioned before that I'm just going to hold on to, which is a placeholder.
	But it appears to me, and I've discussed this with several producers of the show who also are having trouble piecing a lot of this together.
	I don't have anyone saying, oh, this is exactly what happened.
	It seems like we had two operations cross each other by really weird coincidence.
	And just bear with me, John, on the first part of this.
	So I think that based upon the timing, it was six weeks.
	We already called that.
	The FBI needed to do something, and it was time again for them to show their relevance, and what a great opportunity to do this at the Boston Marathon.
	And so that's why they had all kinds of...
	Bomb sniffer dogs.
	They had the drill.
	You always want to have a drill to show that you're prepared, right, whenever something happens.
	And literally, this was not supposed...
	There was no explosives were supposed to go off.
	And it is my belief that...
	That the actors that were brought into this were probably working for yet a third party, if you look at FBI, CIA, and a third party.
	Just indulge me and go along with my theory that maybe this was from the administration.
	What was in the news just before this happened?
	It was North Korea, North Korea, North Korea, North Korea, North Korea, which apparently is no longer a threat, by the way.
	No matter what's happening, North Korea is gone.
	And I said, initially I said, I think you're going to find out that these were North Koreans.
	It was like a North Korean setup.
	They were supposed to blow something up, but it wasn't going to happen.
	The FBI was going to thwart that.
	So it wasn't going to be the thin southern white dude with the Confederate flag, but it would be North Koreans.
	FBI was going to say, oh, we caught them.
	And that was going to be the impetus to obviously do something more interesting with North Korea and maybe do something with gunpowder.
	But what happened is these operatives actually...
	And it was supposed to happen at 5 o'clock.
	This I heard from multiple sources.
	The explosion was supposed to go off at 5 in time for the 6 o'clock news cycle instead.
	And Wall Street knew something.
	Whenever like 9-11, Wall Street always knows.
	And it's all kinds of...
	Crazy short selling.
	Everything is dropping.
	The market's crashing.
	They know something's going to happen.
	That's what the markets do when they're aware of something.
	And that just becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy.
	These guys turn.
	And that's why I'm saying North Korea.
	They want to go back to North Korea as heroes.
	So they actually light these things off.
	Which is why they were so pansy.
	Because, yeah, there were supposed to be pressure cookers.
	There was some actual explosive gunpowder material inside.
	But they really were very poor bombs if you really want to have some mayhem and mass destruction.
	And also, why set them off at the finish line?
	Why not do it at the starting line when there's lots of people and celebrities and all kinds of media is really aware at that time.
	So that was not supposed to happen.
	But at the same time, the CIA... It has these two brothers, and I think that these brothers were working in conjunction with, let's just call it the CIA to make it easy,
	to destabilize Russia, and this is what Chechnya is, you know, there's this long-term feud, and there are absolute militants trying to destabilize Russia, which has agreed to a lot of CIA help, and they were doing an exchange of I think what happened is,
	in crowded places, these kids were bringing gunpowder and bomb-making materials, dropping it in a trash bag, and then taking another backpack out, which would be a completed bomb, and then shipping that off to Chechnya.
	So it was just like cross-signals.
	They were dropping something in a trash can, which you'll recall was the initial report as the trash can exploded.
	And so they're taking something back.
	They're unaware of anything that's going on.
	Bombs go off.
	They think, oh my God, that's our bombs that we were supposed to be shipping off or we're supposed to be picking up.
	And they freak out.
	Of course, all of their contacts go silent.
	So they think that everyone's after them, that it's their bombs that exploded and not some other patsy crap that was set up by the FBI. And that's where all the confusion ensued.
	So then they're just off and running, and I don't think it turns out the whole 7-Eleven thing was not them, not true.
	But they basically just got silenced, just completely obliterated, and they're being blamed for this, which is the big cover-up of the whole debacle that took place.
	Well, a couple of problems with this theory.
	One, I think, is something of a stretch that we have to, that somebody's going to be shipping bombs from the U.S. to Chechnya when they can build their own bombs locally, or they can get them from the Middle East, or they can pick up some, you know, they can get somebody from Iraq to do it.
	I mean, that makes zero sense to me, that they would be doing it, especially a dead drop in a garbage can where that was, which were all these people around.
	So I think that's nuts.
	Um.
	As for the North Korea thing, I think that you've been projecting this idea for a while, but there's a little tidbit.
	I think I've got it here on the clip list.
	A little tidbit that you may or may not be aware of, but the North Korea thing went silent.
	But we did a little interesting kind of a, apparently a...
	A warning of sorts that I think got the North Koreans all jittery and then they just shut up.
	Play the interesting North Korean situation and tell me if there's something in here you've never heard of.
	Thousands of people would die.
	There was no question about who would prevail in this conflict and there's no question today.
	I think we're even more capable than we were back then.
	But that was the image to me.
	As a way of sending a very blunt message to the North Koreans about what US options were, I thought perhaps it was a helpful thing to have said at the time.
	And I think the B-52 and B-2 flyovers the other day sent a very similar message.
	The flyovers, you mean?
	Do you know about the B-2 flyovers?
	Well, I knew that they were flying B-52s, but I didn't know they did flyovers over North Korea.
	I know that they were flying around South Korea, but I didn't know they flew over North Korea.
	They did.
	It's obvious.
	And the Koreans started to change everything when they did this.
	I mean, you can get a B-2.
	They say, if you do enough research, yeah, they supposedly were flying over South Korea.
	But the B-2 can get in and out of anywhere because it's stealth.
	You fly it over Pyongyang and then blast out of there and say, this is what you're going to be dealing with if you keep saber rattling.
	And then the whole thing very slowly quieted down.
	Well, no, that's not true because maybe the actual situation quieted down.
	But not the media.
	It was full tilt, full on North Korea until this happened.
	It was North Korea and the gun vote.
	And those were the only two things dominating the U.S. mainstream media.
	And we were even laughing about it continued.
	They got the somersaulting North Korea guy.
	We got the missiles.
	We got the marching in the street.
	That continued.
	That was not stopping.
	That was not stopping.
	And maybe my theory is...
	It's obviously not complete, and it's obviously just a theory, but it really feels to me, just looking at the explosion, at the minimal damage, quote-unquote, that it did, and how these kids were doing something else.
	They were mixed up with a different...
	They were there, you know, wrong time, wrong place, and they were complicit in something.
	But the FBI, with their warnings, their drill, the new, like, mass casualty FEMA app was being tested.
	The Boston police said we're going to do a controlled detonation across from the library at 1 o'clock in the afternoon, which was two hours before this happened.
	And if you look at the public library, not the JFK library, which I think was thrown in there for distraction, the public library is literally across the street from explosion number two.
	So they were planning some kind of something which went wrong.
	For some reason, it went off.
	And they had to cover that up.
	And I think these two kids were clearly used to cover it up.
	Well, I'm not saying that this wasn't a...
	I mean, I'm in agreement that this was something fishy about the whole thing.
	I'm just not absolutely convinced about your seeing it so complicated as to have bombs cross-border exportation of shitty bombs.
	These things weren't even very good.
	They were firecrackers.
	They were firecrackers.
	They were huge firecrackers.
	Right.
	They were made with the...
	Well, let me just...
	It's not really much of a bomb.
	No, not at all.
	Let me...
	By the way, just as an aside, did you see this head of the state police, Colonel something or other?
	He's always a colonel.
	He actually has the birds on his shoulder, and he's got this droopy hat.
	No, I didn't see him.
	Oh, my God!
	No.
	I stay away from all that.
	I mean, the only thing I... He's a colonel.
	He's a colonel.
	And he's always got his mouth open.
	He looks like the dumbest guy in history.
	He's got a regular cop's hat, but on top of the cop's hat...
	Oh, yes, I have seen him.
	...that is flopping down on top of the hat.
	Yeah, I have seen it.
	It's the dumbest looking thing I've ever seen.
	Well, it's Boston.
	It's Boston.
	They're a little different up there.
	So taking this into account, I have a couple clips.
	So taking into account that it feels like two ops got mixed up, or something crossed wires, and clearly the FBI, we rock, we took care of everything, we saved the day, didn't pan out the way it was supposed to.
	So here's...
	I like the CIA guy that's on the Pierce Moron show, the Bob Bear.
	I like him because he's so out of the loop, but he does have an analytical mind.
	He looks out of the loop.
	He looks like a mean guy.
	But Pierce, I'd like to go back and say that I don't like the smell of this thing, these guys staying around.
	I've trained so many people in situations, not bombings, but like this.
	Yeah, you have.
	You've trained people to do pressure cooker bombs.
	You told them so yourself.
	Something always goes wrong.
	You know, Jimmy, he knows how to make these things, but if you take amateurs and you have them put a bomb together, they make mistakes, especially when they revolve the remote control.
	So what does that tell you, Bob?
	It tells me that somebody had some practice here, and somebody cased the area.
	I mean, I wouldn't send somebody in a backpack into a police-controlled area not sending in somebody first to call out and say they're not checking backpacks.
	They probably stuck around to pick up the backpack if it didn't go off.
	These were cool customers.
	And, you know, the question is, are there more of them out there, whether it's domestic or foreign?
	And, you know, I just don't know.
	But the more I hear about this, the less I like it.
	These guys didn't just get lucky.
	So he's uninformed, but he does realize that, you know, maybe there was an exchange, a drop-off, something else is going on.
	I kind of like that, that he's saying that.
	But clearly, the FBI is getting all the blame, particularly from ABC.
	As we know, ABC is the direct spokes tube from the White House.
	And, of course, the way that they've played it, the way this has been presented, the FBI, Robert Mueller should resign immediately because they failed.
	If you believe in the entire security state of the United States of Gitmo, the FBI really messed up.
	And, boy, are they getting the full blast from ABC.
	And now to the suspects.
	There are some new details tonight about who they are.
	Also some new questions about what exactly the older brother was doing on a six-month trip to Russia and why the FBI investigated him two years ago and then cleared him.
	ABC's senior justice correspondent Pierre Thomas has been on that angle all day.
	Pierre, good evening to you.
	Good evening, Dan.
	With the manhunt now over, the FBI is looking for a motive behind the bombings.
	Yes.
	Was anyone else involved?
	Where did they get that training?
	Immigrants from the Russian caucuses, the brothers came with their parents to the U.S.'s children seeking refugee status.
	They thrived attending top Boston schools.
	Older brother Tamerlan, 26, star athlete, golden glove boxer, pianist.
	I love the pianist part.
	Sounds like your typical guy is going to blow up some people.
	Younger brother Johar, 19, had just become a U.S. citizen, ironically, on September 11th of last year.
	Once a lifeguard, he was an all-state wrestler and college student.
	I certainly can't put it together that he was a person firing a weapon and potentially killing people.
	Last night, the FBI acknowledged it interviewed Tamerlan in 2011 based on a tip from the Russians.
	The Russians said he was a radical Islamist, preparing to leave the U.S., possibly for a trip to the Caucasus.
	After looking into Tamerlan's phone records, websites he visited, and associates, the FBI found no ties to terrorists.
	By law, FBI officials said, monitoring had to stop, barring new negative information.
	Too many people in this country just like him that are touching extremist websites, that are espousing things that aren't particularly kind to Americans, but that's not against the law here.
	Tamerlan's father said his sons couldn't have planned the attack because they knew the FBI was watching them.
	But they apparently were not and never knew that a dark side of the two brothers had begun to emerge.
	So all fingers are clearly pointing towards the FBI having messed this up.
	So they're going to have to deal with that one way or the other.
	I think they're going to have to kill Joker.
	Oh no, the guy, he's a goner.
	He's dead.
	Oh no, I'm sorry.
	This kid is dead.
	Forget about it.
	You know, it's like, he has a throat injury, therefore they can't, you know, he can't talk.
	So they can't question him.
	Here's a, this is...
	He can't talk.
	I swear to God.
	I swear to God.
	So this is Brolf.
	This is like the funniest clip, taking into account that it's not really funny when people get blown up, but this is Brolf sitting with the chief of police and the mayor, and I think it's chief of police, and he's asking the stupidest, stupidest questions ever.
	Even if you don't know what a flashbang is, just the way he asked the questions, Rolf Blitzer should be dragged behind a motorcycle through the streets of Boston.
	This guy is an idiot.
	I'm sure that everybody was safe in the neighborhood, and eventually we had to use some flashbangs to render the subject.
	Tell our viewers what a flashbang is.
	It's just a loud compression.
	That would stun somebody for a short period of time.
	And then we began negotiations, and slowly, over a 15-20 minute period, we were able to get him to stand up and show us that he didn't have a device on him.
	So he's lying in this boat.
	He's been there for several hours.
	He's wounded, clearly, right?
	He's bleeding.
	Right.
	He's obviously weak.
	You come over there, and what do you say to him?
	You have a bullhorn, and you start saying, come up with your hands up?
	No, that's in the westerns, Brolf.
	Come up with your hands up!
	Well, we have a negotiator who was actually on the second floor of the house looking down at the boat.
	You could see him.
	No, we couldn't see him.
	There was a plastic top over them, but we could have...
	No, no, okay, so you could see him.
	And Broth knows exactly what's going on, but he treats this like the viewers are complete idiots.
	We had the state police helicopter that could tell us when there was movement in the boat by the heat sensor.
	So we could tell he was alive and moving, and we began the negotiations that way.
	And over a long period of time, we were able to finally get him to surrender.
	Reporters on the scene heard a volley of gunshots going off, maybe two dozen or so.
	Who was firing those gunshots?
	It was back and forth.
	Was he firing?
	In my understanding, yes.
	I'm pretty sure it was.
	He was firing.
	From the boat?
	Right.
	Right.
	And it was through the plastic.
	They saw him poking.
	Oh, he's poking.
	He's poking something out.
	Through the plastic, if you will, of the boat.
	And then gunfire.
	Hold on a second.
	So these cops probably ruined this guy's boat.
	Oh, it's completely obliterated.
	There's already people trying to raise money for the hero who found him in the boat to buy him a new boat.
	Oh yeah, it's crazy.
	And you say they had sophisticated vision equipment from a helicopter.
	Oh yeah, sophisticated vision equipment called a camera.
	To see through the boat cover.
	X-ray vision we've got!
	Or if you will, to see what there was movement underneath.
	Right.
	We knew there was a body in that boat through the state police helicopter.
	That could have been a bomb sleeping there, but we decided just to obliterate him no matter what.
	It's heat sinking, so he has a higher body temperature than the boat would, so we could tell.
	And every time he moved, we could see that on the uplink.
	So, of course, this kid is dying.
	And they really just want him to bleed out because they just want to find him dead.
	And one of the CNN experts taught me a new word.
	My concern is whether or not this young man, the 19-year-old, took maybe a couple of rounds.
	There's a lot of bullets went into that car and into his brother.
	I don't see how he escaped with having none.
	And I just wonder if he's going to nest someplace and exsanguinate it.
	That would be a concern of mine.
	I have to say...
	Exsanguinate.
	That's actually, if you watch some of it, that's been used a lot on the television shows.
	I've never heard this word before.
	Exsanguinate.
	Which just shows you how insane these guys are.
	Totally.
	You know what it means?
	Bleed out.
	Bleed out.
	Yeah, it literally means to bleed out, but I guess it's a pretty word for bleeding out.
	Exsanguinate.
	So, taking advantage of this is, of course, Peter King, who we played on Thursday, where he's like, this is actually a good thing.
	It's good because we can get more money for the police state.
	So, he's on CNN, and of course we had this mother call in.
	And this mother calls in and says, this is impossible, there's no way this could happen.
	Mr.
	Oil, actually, who speaks fluent Russian...
	He said that he listened to her tell her story on Russian television in Russia and he said it was uncanny, it was word for word, exactly the same story she's been spouting on CNN and other news outlets, meaning that she's reading from a script.
	Right.
	He says, Adam, I could have played him side by side, word for word, the exact same sentence structures, everything the same.
	And it's two different languages.
	But Peter King, he really, this guy really, really, really takes the prize when it comes to politicizing anything like this.
	On right now with the surviving suspect in the Boston Marathon terrorist attacks.
	Now we're hearing for the first time from his mother.
	It's impossible, impossible for them, for both of them to do such things.
	So I am really, really, really, really telling that this is a set up.
	My son, you tell me, my son never would keep it in secret.
	So I would know, whoever would be, you know, knowing, if there is anyone who would know, it would be me.
	He would never, he would never hide it from me.
	He would tell me that, but never, never ever even a word.
	I love how they open the mic on Peter King and anticipating his coming.
	And when you listen to the audio of these things, it's pretty cool to hear how shitty they are at production at CNN. My youngest one was raised, actually like raised from eight years.
	He was raised in America.
	And my oldest son, he is like really, really properly raised in our house.
	Nobody talked about the terrorism.
	And my son, Tamerlan, really got involved in the religion, you know, like religious politics five years ago.
	So he started following his own religious aspects, and he never, he never told me that he would be, like, on the side of jihad.
	He was controlled by FBI, like, for five, three, five years.
	They knew what my son was doing.
	They knew what actions and what the size on the Internet he was going.
	How could this happen?
	How could they?
	They were controlling everything.
	I'm sorry, this is longer than I thought it was.
	I just want to get to Peter King.
	That's the mother of the suspects in the Boston Marathon terrorist attacks, Jahar Narzaev and Tamerlan Zarnaev.
	She was pleading that she did not believe the charges against us.
	We have also confirmed that the suspect's father was questioned by Russian security forces, but he has been released.
	I want to bring back Congressman Peter King for his reaction.
	Congressman King, obviously parents like to believe the best about their children.
	Is there anything that the mother said that surprises you?
	Well, I don't find any of it to be true, and I think it would be better.
	It's impossible.
	This can't be true.
	It must be traumatic for the mother and the father.
	But again, to be saying the FBI set them up and the FBI control them is just absolutely wrong, and it's really offensive.
	I mean, here's a country that gave them sanctuary, gave them asylum, the United States, and to...
	We gave you asylum.
	We gave you a country.
	How can you say this about our FBI who set up patsies every six weeks?
	Who turn against the country like this.
	It's bad enough what their sons did, but for the parents to attack the country, to me, is wrong.
	I also wonder about his father, who went back to Russia.
	He said, or Chechnya, for medical condition.
	I don't know why anyone would leave Boston, which has the best hospitals in the world.
	Because you can't afford it, maybe?
	I don't know.
	Why would you want to leave Boston?
	I mean, that sounds like nuts.
	It makes no sense.
	Two of them.
	To be lashing out at the United States.
	Listen, I don't blame them for saying good things about their sons, even though they're murderers.
	But at least that would be your parents' compassion.
	Hey, thanks for pointing that out there, Peter.
	Also, without trial.
	Yeah.
	Oh yeah, of course.
	What the United States did for them and the opportunities that the United States gave to their sons is really going...
	Check this guy up.
	He's almost done.
	He's almost done.
	This is the guy, though.
	You've got to watch him.
	Much, much too far.
	And I just find it really wrong.
	Congressman King, the mother seemed to be suggesting that the FBI knew about her sons before this week.
	Do you know anything about what she's talking about?
	Were they on the radar of law enforcement in any way?
	No, I'm not aware of that at all.
	I have not heard that.
	I mean, it's always possible that somebody could be on a list somewhere, but I'm not aware of that.
	And I can assure you that there was absolutely no issue of control, no issue of...
	So right now he's admitting that they were under FBI surveillance.
	In any way, the FBI knowing this was going to happen or happened.
	No.
	So even, again, I see no basis at all in what she's saying.
	None of what's right.
	Yeah, I'll shoo him there.
	He's just a blowhard, that guy.
	What do you think about this?
	There's something going on, because this is a botch, and I actually would be inclined, if somebody had some evidence, I would be inclined to believe that both these guys, especially the older brother, were actually...
	Recruited by the FBI. Or CIA, possibly.
	One of the two.
	Or anybody.
	God knows what's out there.
	And that was why the one brother was turning to the religion so much, because that would be what you want him to do.
	You want him to get in.
	You want him to be an insider.
	Yes.
	They were managing his YouTube account.
	And so the whole thing was, because the FBI has done this over and over again, and then of course they have two approaches.
	One, they either use them as an informant inside an organization, if the guy's smart, and both these kids were, you know, one was at Dartmouth, they weren't stupid.
	One played the piano.
	And so they would normally use these guys as inside informants, especially if they can get them into a good mosque.
	Yeah.
	Or if the guys are idiots, which happens most of the time, they have them, you know, push your dial phone number and pretend to blow up the Bank of America and nothing happens and they throw them in jail.
	So that's your choices.
	So you go up to one of these kids and say, here's what's going to happen.
	You're going to work for us and here's what you're going to do.
	You're either going to do this or we're going to set you up and we're going to throw you in jail.
	And we'll kill your mother.
	Yeah, we'll kill your mother.
	So I would suspect that would be more likely.
	But now, they have to kill these kids.
	So they killed the one.
	The other one can't talk.
	He's going to die.
	He's a goner, and it's going to be a sad day.
	It's terrible, but we captured him alive.
	We just couldn't survive all the bullet holes that were in him.
	So I have one final clip, which is kind of MSNBC wrapping it all up.
	And this is their executive director of, like, he's the top dog in the news organization.
	He's so happy.
	He's got a big smile on his face because they put him on 30 Rock.
	Before you do that, before we wrap, I do want to get a couple of Sharpton was on MSNBC. Oh, lovely, lovely.
	And I just want to make sure that we recognize the fact that this guy is actually working for MSNBC. He's an NBC employee.
	And if you play Sharpton Reports 1, you get a feeling for the high quality that goes into these news organizations.
	This is a Sharpton Reports 1?
	Yeah.
	All right.
	Authorities say the surviving suspect may be armed with explosives or even a suicide vest.
	He may also be injured.
	Some reports say police tracked him during the manhunt by his blood trail.
	His uncle spoke out today.
	I say, Jahar, if you're alive, turn yourself in.
	And ask for forgiveness.
	There's no real conflict.
	So the main thing is this guy, this uncle, I had the clip and then I accidentally erased it, which was where he goes, they're losers.
	They're losers, they're losers.
	But the other one I want to get out of the way, then I won't have to worry about letting these things hang out to dry.
	Linger.
	So we had, and you'll be able to wrap this up, but I just wanted another aside.
	We had a situation on all the morning shows where they were shaking up the groups, you know, Lowers, like, under attack.
	Over on the CBS show, which is always the third-rate one, they fired one of their anchors, Erica Hill.
	Now, I worked with Erica because she was over at Tech TV and I know her.
	And, you know, she was a fine morning anchor making, I don't know how many millions she was making, but she quit CBS and went to work for NBC. And then I guess they just marginalized a poor woman.
	And, you know, kind of the pecking order.
	During this episode of this trackdown of these two guys, they made her a stand-up.
	Wait a minute.
	They said they brought her back as a freelance to be on the street?
	Yes.
	After they fired her?
	No, no.
	She went to work for NBC and she was going to end up doing the Today Show on the weekends.
	Oh, right, right, right.
	But meanwhile, they gave her a job as a stand-up.
	So here she is.
	And then to make it even more insulting to the woman, she's on the Sharpton show.
	Oh, God.
	So he introduced her.
	She's out in the street and the cops are yelling and screaming in the background.
	They don't even have her miked.
	You can tell she moves around.
	She's on the shotgun.
	Oh my gosh.
	Let's go to NBC's Erica Hill, who's now live in Watertown, Massachusetts.
	Erica, we understand there's some commotion going on?
	Yeah, definitely a little bit of commotion.
	What we saw here in just the past couple of minutes, you can hear it behind me.
	They are getting people to clear the roads so that more vehicles can come through.
	We saw what appeared to be three SWAT vehicles, which have been at this road that's just off my right shoulder.
	For some period of time, right after we finished that press conference not long ago, which I know you were looking at, You know your career is not going well when this happens to you.
	The number of officers went down.
	There is increased traffic, as you can see now, coming through.
	Right there, she almost gets hit by a car.
	Wow.
	Cars and some people.
	I saw Erin Burnett, who I think at some point was drunk, but I think it makes no sense to play the audio, but I think someone walked by and pinched her butt because she does one of those...
	And she looks really angry and annoyed because she was talking while this was taking place.
	I think someone goosed her.
	It was very, very funny.
	And a lot of these, because this was, again, it was not a controlled situation.
	This is not your typical script, your typical setup.
	So they were really, they had to fly by the seat of their pants.
	You know, this is not the way it's, you know, normally it's all orchestrated and there's a place for the press to stand.
	Well, that's because I think you were correct.
	The bombs weren't meant to go off.
	Yeah.
	So, here's MSNBC wrapping it up.
	Their executive news director, again, he's really, he's like, he's jizzing all over himself because last night, 30 Rock asked him to be on to explain.
	You know, so he's moved up.
	That's from cable to network.
	You know, this is a big deal, so he's really excited.
	But the things coming out of his mouth about the celebratory jihadist websites, What show?
	This was on the...
	30 Rock is not the name of the show.
	No, no.
	The Brian Williams show?
	The Brian Williams show.
	But this is him on MSNBC, but he's really glib because he's been the guy to go on network.
	Because he's the expert now.
	So he's received some briefing.
	But listen to him describe...
	How people are talking, the jihadists, okay?
	So he apparently has access to, he knows where to look, and he's got access to jihadist chat rooms, which you have to have special code.
	No, he knows.
	Special code.
	I swear to God.
	He's got a password.
	Yeah, he's got a password.
	It sounds like he's talking about our chat room.
	I swear to God.
	Listen.
	Let's get more on the suspects' international links.
	To do that, I'm joined here in studio by NBC News Chief Foreign Correspondent Richard Engel with a big welcome to you, Richard.
	We're glad you're here.
	You know him, Engel?
	We've talked about him before.
	He is their number one.
	Yeah, he's pretty funny.
	He dramatizes stuff.
	Rock Center.
	He was on Rock Center.
	That's what it is.
	Rock Center.
	Here we go.
	I loved what you said on Rock Center last night.
	Fascinating about how...
	This is what you do when you're in cable, right?
	When you're down low on the rung, you're like, man, you were so great.
	I love your work, man.
	It was so great last night.
	Just hoping, this woman is saying this to him, just hoping that she'll be in his good graces because he's clearly rising when he moves up to network that she can be sucked along in his wake.
	Am I right?
	I think you're generally right.
	Engel's been around for a while, so I don't know that he's rising.
	Suspects, international links.
	To do that, I'm joined here in studio by NBC News Chief Foreign Correspondent Richard Engel with a big welcome to you, Richard.
	We're glad you're here.
	Thank you.
	I loved what you said on Rock Center last night.
	Fascinating about how this has all sparked so much on terrorists, jihadist websites.
	Talk about that.
	Okay, talk about that.
	Now, let's listen.
	Well, all day yesterday, while the city of Boston was surrounded, was covered with police and they were sweeping house to house, there are jihadi chat forms.
	These are chat rooms.
	Sometimes they're password protected.
	Other times you just need to know where they are.
	Because I'm so cool.
	I'm Engel.
	And there are a lot of al-Qaeda sympathizers, people who believe in the cause, believe the United States is on a crusade against Islam.
	And they were very much celebrating what was going on in Boston because they were filled with statements like, look at what the United States government is spending, all the millions of dollars on security that are being wasted.
	Look at the people who are being locked into their homes and are cowering in fear.
	This is our chat room, John.
	This is not jihadist websites.
	This is our chat room that says these things.
	And the general consensus was that these two brothers were more or less lone wolves.
	That they weren't part of.
	...of a major organization, that there was not a group in Chechnya that deployed them and sent them as a sleeper cell and then pushed a button to activate them.
	They were people who were self-inspired by the cause.
	And these jihadi chat rooms thought that was great.
	And they were encouraging other people to do the same, follow their example.
	and and then on rock center i thought what i mentioned to brian last night is brian i just say brian and i first ride brian hey brian let me tell you this what was really important uh was when this was all finished yeah it was a spontaneous applause and the people came out of This, by the way, was fantastic.
	Somehow, everybody who was locked in their doors went out to Kmart and bought flags because they knew they would come in handy when they were there to wave the heroes, the SWAT teams, and give them a standing ovation, waving their little flags.
	Did you see some of those?
	They had...
	These guys rolling in and armored cars and Humvees and the whole thing.
	Oh, yeah.
	And my favorite one was this, which got me the Keystone Cop meme, was this one big, giant, square, boxy-looking thing with guys hanging off of it all around.
	That's the length of it.
	It looked like a jitney from Indonesia filled with a bunch of peasants hanging on for dear life off a Smokey Joe.
	It's a...
	And they're all in military garb with all kinds of...
	Oh, yeah.
	That's your police.
	Remember when I was growing up, my mom always said, you know, if you get lost or if there's something wrong, you can always go to a police officer and ask them for help.
	And that's what the police officer's for.
	But, you know, that guy is now, you know, dressed in full combat fatigues with a fully automatic assault weapon.
	Camo?
	Camo.
	Camo.
	And he's driving a tank.
	A tank, I tell you.
	Our police...
	This is what this country's come to.
	It's just a ridiculous...
	Police state.
	Then there's the other group, the guys that are sitting ducks because they're wearing this day-glow green.
	Like, if there was a sniper around, you could pick these guys off like ducks.
	Hey, and whose Blackhawk was that?
	Is that the police?
	Do they have those two?
	Or is that the military?
	I mean, who's flying the Blackhawk?
	Sad.
	What?
	They never said who it was.
	But it's just like, oh, there's a Blackhawk landing.
	Yeah.
	It's a fucking Blackhawk.
	Boston Police, Newtown Police, State Police, and the Sheriff.
	I like that MS Small Biz says, camouflage works really well in the city.
	That's a great point.
	Urban camo.
	Well, it's not urban camo.
	It's friggin' desert camo.
	That's what they were wearing.
	No, actually, they weren't wearing desert camo.
	They were wearing the...
	Jungle camo?
	Most of them.
	I'm sorry, you cut out.
	What were you saying?
	They were wearing urban camo, most of them.
	It looked like jungle camo.
	It's that computerized looking thing.
	It doesn't do anything.
	It makes you look like a weirdo.
	But that's what they were wearing.
	Let me finish up this wonderful 20 seconds left on Angle.
	And they weren't terrorized.
	And they looked very relaxed.
	Boston strong!
	And there were a lot of statements like, we're not accepting to be terrorized.
	We were told to go inside because we were told, and now we're going to applaud the police.
	Right.
	And that's a mess.
	We were told.
	We did what we were told.
	Yes.
	And we waved our flags!
	...that I'm sure they didn't intend to send, but that was directly in contrast to what these forums were saying all day, that the people were, you know, effectively broken down and emotionally kaput.
	Kaput!
	And instead, they were out celebrating.
	Emotionally kaput!
	But that's what Dick Clark said.
	He said they were terrorized.
	These two kids terrorized.
	If you got terrorized, you can't be standing strong.
	I mean, these messages are mixed.
	It's terrible.
	This is the worst thing they've ever done.
	And here's the irony to the whole thing.
	This is going to encourage, because of all the ridiculous attention these two guys got, it's going to encourage copycats.
	Exactly.
	Oh, hold on a second.
	Hello?
	Boston?
	This is Jersey calling?
	We want our strong back?
	The hell is that?
	Since when did this become proper English?
	It's never been proper English.
	Boston Strong.
	So we're going to have an outbreak.
	How about this for an off-the-wall concept?
	Maybe this was done for the sole purposes, the overreaction and the rest of it, to get more people to do this.
	Because we're not getting any action when it comes to terrorism.
	We need more action.
	There you go.
	There's been shit going on ever since 9-11.
	It's been over 12 years, and nothing's really happened.
	You know, oh, we need more Homeland Security.
	Why?
	There is no action.
	There's nothing going on.
	No Muslims move over here, and they just open a restaurant.
	Here we go.
	Oh, oh, oh.
	Mr.
	D.C. Vorak.
	Open up the door.
	We had one made for you.
	So yeah, thanks.
	I appreciate that, actually.
	So I think, is it possible that this thing was actually, wasn't a botched plan, but exactly what we wanted to do, overreact and make a big stink to draw some people out?
	Because we can't, they can't draw anybody out to do anything.
	They can only find a few dummies.
	Because people come here like, yeah, I'm going to blow the crap.
	Hey, this is not so bad here.
	Hold on.
	This is a great spot for a restaurant.
	Are you nuts?
	I'm not going to blow this up.
	Well, unfortunately, this is, of course, going to be misused.
	And I'm already hearing, you know...
	Oh, boy.
	I'm already hearing people say, oh, you know, this is the problem.
	We need more.
	We need, you know, obviously, you know, the FBI needs more money because, you know, they don't have the right resources.
	I mean, this is the sad, sad state of affairs.
	Well, that's the, you know.
	You know, I know that No Agenda listeners...
	Who've listened to the show more than three or four times, that is.
	They must have watched this with shaking their head the whole time because it's so obvious.
	But the average member of the public, which is the 99 percent...
	They're all in?
	All in?
	They're all in.
	Oh my God, it could happen here.
	You know, let's get more security at BART. No, but what's really sad is you get like this Engel guy is saying, it's like, you know, we're Boston strong, American strong, we won't be terrorized.
	No, you're being terrorized by your own police force.
	They're terrorizing you, forcing you to stay in your home.
	Just call martial law then, you know.
	And by the way, they were rousing.
	This was...
	Did you see the group of cops, the SWAT team, a whole group of them?
	They'd pound on some door in Newtown, which is similar to the other place.
	Watertown, you mean?
	Waterton.
	In fact, Erica Hill said Newton.
	Oh, really?
	Well, there is a Newton in Massachusetts.
	But anyway, so the cops got everybody out of the house, and then they went in with their guns, you know, and then they searched the place.
	And this is King George III.
	Yeah, exactly.
	And this is Boston where the whole revolution, revolution began.
	Ah, now you're making some sense.
	Because yes, of course, this is symbolic.
	Very symbolic to do this in Boston, where the revolution began.
	Absolutely.
	And, you know, there is a Fourth Amendment.
	You know, the cops don't just have the right to come in and just, like, you know, roust you.
	No matter what the situation is.
	But, you know, who's going to say no?
	You've got a tank and a Black Hawk.
	What am I going to do?
	And all these guys in camel and armor and automatic weapons.
	Yeah.
	Hmm.
	Inside edition.
	I had a great report.
	So you hear what we're doing here on the No Agenda Show, often referred to as the best podcast in the universe.
	And it's true because we have a jingle.
	The best podcast in the universe!
	When you have a jingle, that accentuates the fact.
	And so you're right.
	People who listen to No Agenda, that means more than once, you know, a couple times.
	And so they have this thinking, and we don't have all the answers.
	Of course not.
	You know, things may appear over time.
	We have healthy skepticism.
	And we have analysis.
	Analysis not interrupted or thwarted by commercial messages.
	However, the general citizenry of the United States, this is the type of reporting they get.
	But first, the ricin scare.
	Believe it or not, the man accused of sending poison-laced letters to President Obama and other politicians is also an Elvis impersonator.
	Jim Murray unearthed incredible video.
	This is fantastic.
	The FBI says he's caught the man responsible for sending letters laced with the deadly poison ricin to President Obama and two other officials.
	And he is, of all things, an Elvis impersonator.
	Paul Kevin Curtis was arrested at his apartment in Corinth, Mississippi, around 6 o'clock Wednesday night.
	The 45-year-old not only does a spot-on Elvis impersonation...
	Oh, yeah.
	He's great.
	We can hear that.
	He also does Jon Bon Jovi.
	Listen to this.
	Man, that is so spot on Bon Jovi.
	I mean, it's like, I can see...
	I had to wipe my eyes.
	It's like Richie Sambora is just walking into my living room now.
	He's got a five-star rating on his impersonator website.
	Oh, five-star rating.
	Well, there you go.
	With pages full of glowing reviews.
	Kevin, you delivered a truly spectacular performance for my parents' 50th wedding anniversary.
	Now, The whole nation wants to know what in the world could have made this Elvis impersonator snap and mailed deadly poison to the president and to others.
	It's something the FBI is looking into.
	Oh, yes, they're looking into it.
	I mean, and this is people...
	Oh, man.
	Wow, man.
	I mean, this is the perfect story for the real, true American citizenry.
	You've got Elvis in there.
	We've got, like, Bon Jovi.
	He also does Hank Williams Jr.
	with him.
	And he's got a five-star rating.
	And he's available for your 50th wedding anniversary.
	Man, jeez.
	People.
	Now, let's thank our two producers.
	And by the way, just back on...
	Now, let's just do it because it's short.
	I can't because I don't have the...
	Oh, I have it here.
	I'll do it.
	So, we were at the market yesterday.
	Yesterday was very funny.
	We had like a mini impromptu meetup.
	At the Austin Farmers Market, we had Jane and Mike, our local Austin producers, who actually are pretty much responsible for getting us here in the first place.
	They organized the very first original meetup during the Hot Pockets Tour.
	Then there was Sir Gene, who rolled in from Dallas.
	Sir Gene actually, I believe, thinking of moving to Austin.
	And we had two of our producers from North Carolina, Bill and Sherry, who had heard our conversations about Austin and were in town looking to relocate.
	And, you know, so I'm like jamming with Farmer Chris about the eggs and stuff, and all of a sudden you get like an in the morning, and then, you know, people just showing up at the market now.
	So we had like a nice little coffee at Halcyon, and Sir Gene handed over $350 cash to Ms.
	Mickey.
	As a cash donation.
	We'll make him the...
	I've got the spreadsheet up.
	We'll make him the executive producer along with Thomas Staniszewski from Newmarket, New Hampshire who came in with a check.
	33333 without a comment because it was a bank check that came from one of the banks.
	So we don't know what...
	And Sir Gene, you know, he's multiple night at this point.
	And I said to him, I said, you know, dude, why don't you, like, get in the peerage?
	You know, you're probably a baron by now or, you know, you can up your title.
	He's like...
	Well, he wants to know if he can be sheriff.
	You know, a sheriff's not a peerage position.
	I know.
	Or a marshal.
	Well, that's not either.
	He's in Texas.
	We can make him...
	Well, you know, he could be...
	Let's think about how to do this.
	Well, hold on.
	There's a sheriff in Robin Hood.
	There was the sheriff of Nottingham Forest.
	Yeah, but he wasn't...
	It wasn't from...
	It wasn't...
	It's not a landholder, the sheriff.
	He doesn't want to hold land.
	He doesn't...
	I don't know.
	Well, if he wants to be sheriff instead.
	Yeah, I think he does.
	Of what?
	Of Texas.
	Sheriff of Texas.
	I think he wants to be sheriff of Texas.
	All right, we'll put it in a special request, and when we put our sheet together, we'll make him whatever he is, plus honorary sheriff of Texas.
	Would that work?
	Yeah, or constable.
	No, I think it's sheriff.
	So I'm in Las Vegas.
	Mm-hmm.
	And the constable goes by.
	And so I go up to the cop, because there was an impending riot that was going to take place outside the convention center, and there was a bunch of cops around.
	And so I go up to this cop and I say, you know, what kind of, why is the police organized around here?
	The guy, by the way, this cop was from San Jose.
	He says, yeah, and he says that the police are organized better in Vegas than they are anywhere in California, where there's too many people that, you know, the sheriff department and county cops and the locals and the BART police and all the rest of them around here.
	I said, what's the constable?
	The constable drove by, and I said, what is the constable?
	What's the constable?
	I said, oh, yeah.
	He said, well, here we only have really two.
	We have one group, which is the police department and sheriff's departments combined.
	It's one group of police, and he says it's much easier to deal with.
	He says the constable only has one job, and the constable's job is to...
	Ride around, apparently.
	No, no.
	The eviction notices...
	Yeah, that's good for Sir Gene.
	Restraining orders.
	And all the really worst jobs.
	I said, that's the worst job.
	Yeah, it's horrible.
	He says, all you're doing is just telling people they can't do this and that.
	And you're the one that serves all the papers.
	Shut up, slave!
	Nobody wants to be the constable.
	Right.
	To make a long story short.
	Yeah.
	All right.
	Well, we thank Sir Gene and we thank Thomas Staniszewski for both being executive producers.
	And we have our associate executive producer, Warren Carroll, who will be knighted today based upon Warren's $200 support donation to the show.
	And these, of course, are actual credits.
	He has a note that he sent in.
	Oh, good.
	Show 505 reminded me once again of the true value I'm receiving from the No Agenda show, the best podcast in the universe.
	The least I can do is become a knight of the No Agenda Roundtable.
	Long live value for value.
	Right on.
	And he's made knighthood, so he'll be knighted today.
	You know what's kind of funny is from time to time I'll get a note from someone saying, Hey, man, this guy over here is ripping off your concept.
	They're ripping off your idea of value for value.
	And I'm like, no they're not.
	We ripped it off.
	And by the way, it's a great idea.
	Everyone should be doing this.
	The question is, are you getting real value from whatever that is?
	That's the central question.
	And apparently, we'll get to the donation segment today.
	It'll be very short because I don't know if we're just sucking on the value.
	But we're like 50% down.
	You said this would happen.
	I don't know why.
	Worn out from...
	That's because of the news cycle.
	I mean, this is not...
	It's true.
	Whenever there's a lot of news and we have to do...
	Yeah, people are just tired.
	They don't listen.
	No, they're sick of it because they're getting pounded by this terrorism.
	Oh, it's the worst.
	One of these idiots says, it's the worst terror event since 9-11.
	No, my favorite is the worst bombing since 9-11.
	I'm like, oh, really?
	I didn't know there was a bombing on 9-11.
	WTC! I keep hearing this.
	That's a good catch.
	If you have a clip of that, I'd like to hear it.
	Oh, I've heard it at least five times.
	Well, you should combine and make one of those bang, bang, bang clips.
	That's what you're good at.
	Bombing, bombing, bombing, bombing, bombing.
	You're good at the bang, bang clips.
	You're right.
	But I've been hearing worse terror events.
	No, I've heard worse bombing.
	Great threat.
	I'm scared to death over here in Berkeley because of the...
	God knows what's going to happen next.
	I'm shaking in my boots like the rest of the American public, apparently.
	Thank you, Sir Gene.
	I'm not getting what they're trying to prove here.
	Thank you, Thomas Stanisweski, and thank you, Warren Carroll.
	Everyone else who will be thanked in our donation segment, we'll be doing that in a little bit.
	And, of course, you can always support us.
	It's very simple.
	Just go to this website.
	And you can always go out and propagate our formula.
	It's very simple.
	Here it comes.
	Our formula is this.
	We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
	And also thank you to Dennis Cruz for the artwork that we use on episode 505.
	That's another thing.
	Our artwork has fallen off the ledge.
	Case in point.
	This is what we always say.
	When the artwork sucks, when the past two episodes...
	Cruz's artwork is fine.
	The art was good, but we had to dig 20 episodes back to find it.
	There was no art being done on the spot.
	No.
	No, but you know...
	These are just getting burned out.
	I don't know.
	Is it just a sign of...
	It's a sign of...
	Here we go again.
	Well, John, maybe everyone's just like buying into it and they're like, oh...
	You know, I catch people saying, you know...
	You know, so I go through my theories and I test it with people and then, you know, at a certain point I'm like, you know, this is really weird.
	I really don't know.
	And then they'll be like, well, you know, sometimes it's just crazy people do crazy things.
	I'm like, no.
	No.
	I'm sorry.
	That's not true.
	You know, it's just not like this.
	Not like this.
	Crazy people do crazy things is what's going on in Oakland.
	Or what goes on when some maniac jumps off the bridge.
	He's got no connection to anything.
	It's just some guy jumped off the bridge.
	No, this is too many police involved, too many agencies involved, too many guys in camo, too many guys in this crazy...
	Locked down, locked down.
	Well, regardless...
	You know, I was always thinking a good script would be the whole thing was just staged so they could rob the mint or something.
	You know, they locked down in Boston...
	Right.
	They go in there, steal all the money.
	It's a good storyline.
	Yeah, it is.
	And the next thing you know, they let everyone go back to work and nobody notices.
	Well, there are, of course, a couple things that are not getting attention.
	Number one is, well, actually, if I look at the Federal Register, this is quite telling.
	The Federal Register is really what the news outfit should be reading, but they don't.
	Or they do, or they just don't report on it, whatever.
	So a number of waivers came through.
	All waivers regarding Section 7031B3 of the Department of State Foreign Operations and Related Programs Appropriation Act of 2012.
	Which of course restricts what can be sold or what can be lent or financed to foreign countries as it pertains to military equipment.
	And so we have one, two, three, four, five, six waivers of restriction on assistance to certain governments, meaning that we can not only send military equipment, but we can send personnel, we can send money.
	It's all a waiver as determined by this Appropriations Act for foreign operations.
	Foreign operations is code for, I don't know, fucking other people up?
	Does that sound fair enough, John?
	In other countries?
	No.
	Eh, maybe.
	Okay, so we have a waiver of restriction on assistance to the central government of Lebanon.
	Waver on restriction of assistance to the central government of Libya.
	Waver on restriction of assistance to the central government of Egypt.
	Waver on restriction of assistance to the government of Yemen.
	Waver on restriction of assistance to the central government of Algeria.
	And...
	Hello?
	And waiver on restriction of assistance to the central government of Saudi Arabia.
	In addition to that, the President announced $130 million in additional money going to...
	Non-lethal assistance to the resistance in Syria.
	So, again, I think John Kerry and his big waterhead are going to show up in Syria with a giant check.
	Here it is, boys!
	Here's your check!
	Come and get it!
	Of course, this is not going to the rebels.
	It's going to American companies to then ship, via Turkey, night vision goggles...
	And bulletproof vests, because that's non-lethal assistance.
	And the President announced that we are...
	Well, the President didn't really announce this, but it looks like up to 20,000 troops will be positioned in Jordan, of course, bordering on Syria.
	So, I think there's something going on there.
	Yeah, I've heard that.
	And I'm a little outraged that $130 million is one thing, but 20,000 troops?
	How much does that cost per day?
	Lots.
	And meanwhile, we've got half of America.
	We're just being reported that we're putting 20,000 troops over there.
	I'm sorry?
	We've got to do something with those guys who are pulling out of Afghanistan.
	Yeah, but meanwhile, we've got like 40 million people on food stamps in America.
	Yeah.
	Are you kidding me?
	It's crazy.
	Also in the Federal Register, just while we're on it, this is great for GE. This is very weird.
	By notice, dated January 31st, published in the Federal Register, GE Healthcare made application by renewal to the DEA, Drug Enforcement Administration, to be registered as an importer of cocaine.
	This has been approved.
	The company plans to import small quantities in the form of three separate analogs of cocaine to validate production and quality control systems for a reference standard and for producing material for a future investigational new drug submission.
	So, they get to import cocaine.
	General Electric?
	Healthcare.
	GE Healthcare.
	Yeah.
	So they've got some kind of cocaine testing machine, apparently.
	That's the find of the day.
	The company plans to import small quantities in the form of three separate analogs of cocaine to validate production and quality control systems.
	Small quantities mean?
	And where are they getting it?
	Well, that doesn't say.
	But they're allowed to import it.
	Columbia, I guess.
	You're going to see a lot of activity over at GE. I think maybe we'll see the NBC News anchors a little more awake.
	They've got to give some to Diane Sawyer.
	Well, she's ABC, so she doesn't count.
	No, I know.
	That's what I'm saying.
	They're going to have to slip it over there.
	But they're also producing material for a future investigational new drug.
	I mean, that's great.
	Yeah, synthetic cocaine.
	Synthetic coke.
	Yeah, that's what everyone needs.
	Hell yeah.
	Bring it on.
	So before we get away from all these bombers, we didn't mention, re-mention the Texas thing, which has always been, Mimi was just completely beside herself, apparently spending her time on Facebook, arguing with the people saying, oh, we have to have the donate, we gotta, there's a Red Cross donation, donate to Boston, donate to Boston.
	You know, it's like, so she's beefing that, you know, they got insurance.
	The Boston is a bunch of marathon runners.
	This is not, if you want to donate to anybody, donate to the West Texas town that got obliterated.
	Yeah, and by the way, Massachusetts got, you know, state of emergency funds.
	The president signed off on it immediately.
	I have not seen that for Texas.
	No, no, you won't see it either.
	No.
	And then we have this idiot, Tom Hartman.
	Ugh.
	Who comes out, and this is kind of the follow-up report.
	He has his little panel that he tries to do that just doesn't work because he's not a good panel host.
	But play this crazy assertion that he makes here on his show.
	He feels that West Chemical and Fertilizer Company, the plant in Texas, West is actually the town, it's not the part of Texas, it's a little teeny tiny town in Texas, had not been inspected by OSHA since 1985.
	And they were sitting on enough of this ammonium nitrate, which is what Tim McVeigh used in his bomb, to blow up West Texas, which is what happened.
	And although they had, in 2006, they'd been cited for not having good risk management, paid a fine, but nobody had inspected them.
	I would submit that this is a good example of why we need big government.
	So, Adam, in your libertarian world...
	Is he as Kokesh on there, whatever his name?
	The way that you solve these problems is these people die, this thing blows up, and everybody else goes, oh, that's terrible, let's not do that.
	This is actually an example of why big government wouldn't have saved these people.
	There was already regulations on the books.
	But there was no inspection.
	The government wasn't big enough.
	No, they weren't quite big enough.
	They could have gone down there any time they wanted to and taken a look under the hood.
	But they didn't because they were paid.
	They were paid off.
	It's Laurel and Hardy.
	I'm telling you, this guy, I don't get this kind of logic.
	How much do you think he makes a year?
	You know, if you were, let's see, Brian or Lauer, Matt Lauer makes $25 million a year.
	No.
	No.
	Yes.
	No.
	Yeah.
	No.
	Yes.
	Please.
	You can't.
	No.
	Matt Lauer's salary.
	$25 million.
	The guy auditioned for VH1. Well, Wikipedia says it's $25 million, but Wikipedia also has my height as 4'1".
	No, this is not from Wikipedia.
	Yes, I'm looking at Wikipedia.
	This contract became pretty public.
	$25 million.
	You always get the feeling, you have some belief that these guys aren't making any money.
	All you have to do is the math on O'Reilly and what that show makes on a daily basis and why he makes so much money.
	You know, I'm very familiar with media salaries, and they've always been overhyped.
	I just don't believe $25 million.
	Okay.
	I mean, they may say that, but I don't think he's making it.
	Well, let's get back to the point.
	What do you think this guy's making?
	I think he probably makes about $40,000 a year.
	I'm thinking $38,000.
	Doesn't he have a radio show?
	Yeah, I'm sure that rakes it into it.
	No, I'm sad.
	He's making money on the radio show.
	No.
	Maybe.
	Yeah.
	The syndicators take most of that money.
	Do you think he's doing better than we are?
	Well, by today's numbers, he is.
	Thanks.
	That really helps.
	So I was watching some hearings, being sick of this Boston bull crap.
	And so I ran into this hearing.
	This is the worst ever.
	There's this guy, and by the way, you can play the, get your finger ready on the douchebag button.
	Okay.
	This was hearings on marijuana.
	Oh, boy.
	Wait a minute.
	Was this conveniently timed for April 20th, 420?
	Is that why this was all taking place?
	It could be.
	Whatever the case was.
	Yesterday, by the way, was 420.
	That's correct.
	Thanks for all the 420s, everybody.
	Yeah, we didn't get one.
	Big help.
	We don't have a lot of dope smokers, apparently, listening to the show.
	Yeah, we do.
	You should Google this woman, Michelle Leonhart, L-E-O-N-H-A-R-T, who is the director of the DEA. She's the top dog.
	She's an idiot.
	Haven't we played her before where she doesn't know nothing?
	She doesn't know nothing.
	Yeah, we've definitely...
	And she just sounds like a moron.
	So they had this Frank Wolf, and anyone in Virginia, this is a Republican, anyone in Virginia who's got Frank Wolf as their representative should vote him out.
	Besides, by the way, everybody in this hearing sounded stoned.
	And there was all this assistance in the back, you know, all the interns and everybody sitting back there.
	And they were like...
	Constantly looking at each other as though they say, oh my God, what if they catch us?
	Just to get a little taste of this, we're going to play the marijuana and the DEA part one and listen to how stupid these people sound.
	These are the people making tons of money and they're our leaders.
	There will be an amendment to legalize marijuana on the floor when this bill comes up.
	Guaranteed.
	Could you say then that in a state that legalizes marijuana, Washington State, Colorado, some of that marijuana will be supplied by Mexican drug cartels when that time comes?
	Well, a lot will depend on what the different states' law says, but let's take the states that have already passed medical marijuana.
	We see an influence of Mexican marijuana, especially out west with the dispensaries.
	It's the good shit.
	That's what you want.
	A lot of people are saying, well, let's experiment with this.
	We don't need to experiment with it.
	We know what happened with medical marijuana in these states.
	Use grew.
	Use grew overnight.
	I was a special agent in charge in Los Angeles.
	Overnight, more dispensaries than Starbucks.
	And it has gotten to the point so out of hand that cities and municipalities in Southern California are banning dispensaries coming to their areas because they saw what happened.
	They saw the influence of more crime in that area.
	Face it, do a little surveillance like we do on some of these dispensaries.
	She's doing stakeouts apparently, John.
	She's eating donuts.
	And you'll see that the primary patients of the dispensary are males from the age of 18 to 26.
	Our prime target for Adderall and other groovy stuff.
	And there's a lot of apparent sick people out there.
	So we are concerned.
	What?
	Stop.
	Oh, stop.
	I want to get to these other clips.
	Well, she's almost done.
	She's almost done.
	But you're not missing anything.
	Okay.
	So she said, two things.
	One, I didn't know that Starbucks was a metric.
	Yes, no, Starbucks is a great metric.
	It's the new McDonald's, you know.
	So Starbucks is a metric, and there's more of these dispensaries than in Los Angeles.
	We have 112 Starbucks.
	We have never droned a country that has a Starbucks.
	That's the new metric you see.
	I like it.
	And then this crime thing here.
	So today's the Huffington Post, San Francisco.
	Nine years ago, a small medical marijuana dispensary opened in San Francisco's lower Haight.
	The vapor room quickly found its place within the neighborhood and its presence had an interesting, if not counterintuitive, effect.
	It appears to have reduced crime.
	Yeah, of course it does.
	Yeah.
	I do want to say one thing, if I can just interject.
	So yesterday was 4.20, and the news reports show everyone lighting up at 4.20 in the afternoon.
	And I was a major, major user of the holy herb marijuana.
	For ten years, from wake and bake to sleepy time, and just all, if I could get up, because I almost was setting my alarm at three in the morning, I need to toke at three in the morning, just to go back to sleep.
	No!
	I like that, though, to be part of the story.
	Alright, it's hereby true.
	Put it in the wiki.
	Put it on my wiki page.
	What I saw, like in Seattle and Boulder, you look like assholes when you do that.
	Can I just say that?
	So I'm all for marijuana.
	I think it's great.
	But it's like you're sitting on the street guzzling Jack Daniels.
	You look like a dick.
	When you do that, and you do nothing for promotion of what I think is a very medicinal plant and very, very useful and tasty to smoke, although I don't do it anymore.
	You never get tasty from that, but go on.
	When's the last time you smoked it?
	I don't smoke it.
	No, but you have, right?
	You've smoked it in your lifetime.
	I was a kid.
	Right.
	So how can you even remember what it tastes like?
	There's some weed that is really tasty.
	Okay, fine.
	Go on.
	Hey, the new weed is tasty.
	Definitely.
	Tasty new weed.
	Thank you for the opening.
	That is 121.
	Got it.
	But when people sit around outside on the steps and like, Oh, it's legal.
	We're going to let up.
	The cops can't do anything.
	You make everyone who smokes weed look like a dick.
	Stop it.
	Celebrate 420.
	Fine.
	What sort of celebrate?
	It's just a date.
	It's a weed culture thing.
	That's okay.
	I'm okay with that.
	But, you know, take a trip to Jamaica and then go sit with some Rastafari and really learn about the culture of weed.
	Really learn about it.
	What this thing can do for this magical plant that burns hotter than coal.
	Anywho.
	So just stop that.
	It's not funny.
	You don't need it anymore.
	So play the clip.
	This thing got worse and worse.
	Play clip three.
	And you hear some of the crazy memes that come in.
	I'd be surprised if you can't not laugh at this particular clip.
	I'm worried about some figures from Colorado just since medical marijuana became legal there.
	We can't sell any more cancer medication because people are curing themselves.
	This is an outrage.
	Actually, marijuana was legalized, not medical marijuana.
	But that's okay.
	She doesn't know what she's talking about.
	She's an idiot.
	Car accidents and fatal car accidents.
	I've got some figures I could give you on that.
	There will be an increase in car accidents and fatal car accidents.
	Increase in car accidents is...
	By the way, stop.
	This guy cannot finish a word.
	He constantly says, fatal car accidents.
	Let me listen again.
	Hey, man!
	What's happening?
	The fact that his words are cantonated.
	It just cuts them off.
	Fatal car accidents.
	Increase in car accidents has got to be a major concern.
	In fact, a driver who has used marijuana is twice as likely to have a crash than someone that didn't.
	Oh, this is a statistic.
	It depends if he's in reverse, which is what most people on weed do.
	I can back it up all the way home.
	Watch.
	There are a lot of statistics out there because people have looked at the science and the science tells us that nobody belongs in Schedule 1 because it's high potential for abuse.
	More teens enter drug treatment for marijuana addiction than other illegal drugs and alcohol.
	Alright, so...
	Ah, you stepped on the ending!
	What?
	It was over!
	Play the very end again.
	Oh, hold on a second.
	I'm sorry.
	It was not always clear, you know, you like...
	I can't put little codes in these little things.
	Yes, because 50% of your clips you say stop before it's over.
	So I don't know.
	Hold on.
	Here we go.
	I'll get it.
	In the record?
	Be glad to give you that one.
	Let me back it up a little more.
	That has shown a study like that.
	Yes.
	Be glad to give you that one.
	I didn't get back far enough.
	Okay.
	By the time that they're, I think, in their 20s, they've been testing to show about an 8% drop in IQ. 8% drop?
	I don't know any other drug that has shown a study like that.
	Yes, be glad to give you that one.
	Okay.
	True fact.
	8% drop in IQ. Fact.
	Of course.
	Well, it's actually what they've determined if you do enough reading.
	It's not 8% anything.
	It's 8 points.
	Oh, 8 point drop.
	If you start when you're 13 and smoke it like a maniac until you're about 21.
	And can you measure IQ on the Starbucks scale?
	Well, the way it seems to work to me that you're so stoned when you're taking the IQ test when you're 21 that, yeah, you're probably going to be off a few points.
	I've never really bought into the whole number thing on IQ. What do you think my IQ is?
	I'll tell you because I had it measured.
	What is my IQ? I'm 31.
	So I went on the National IQ Test in the Netherlands several years ago.
	Wow.
	Ten years ago, probably.
	No?
	Five, six, seven, seven years ago.
	And so the National IQ Test is where you get a whole bunch of celebrities, and they go on television, and they take the test.
	And then, you know, and then the test is scored.
	And they get an event?
	Yeah, it's a reality television show.
	It's called the National IQ Test because it actually ran in the States for a season or two.
	It was pretty big.
	And, you know, because then you can play along at home.
	And so you said 131.
	Thank you.
	I appreciate that.
	You know what my actual score was?
	100.
	Crap.
	Nobody has 100.
	So what is bullcrap?
	Are the numbers bullcrap or is the test?
	I think the whole idea of a test is bullcrap.
	How can you measure IQ? That's bullshit.
	You can't measure that.
	I'm not buying into the whole thing.
	Well, if I had 100, I'd say the same thing.
	What?
	Hey, yo!
	Alright, well, you just don't want to get into an intelligent conversation with me about the bullcrap.
	What is your IQ? You've had it measured.
	It came out a couple of different numbers.
	I had 138 once and 142 a second time.
	Right.
	And who measured that?
	Mensa?
	No, I didn't.
	Mensa.
	And yeah, I know I agree.
	It's also very cultural.
	So even though it's not supposed to be.
	Let's play.
	Okay, we got some more clips left.
	I can't remember which one.
	There's the Gateway Drug clip.
	This is a good clip.
	The one I would like to have is this guy, Bonner, comes in.
	And let's see, was there a short clip here?
	Try the part five clip and see where that goes.
	Okie dokie.
	Let's see where it goes.
	I think Dr.
	Harris is right.
	I think the Attorney General is coming up next week.
	Okay, hold on a second.
	Stop.
	I'm making you stop constantly.
	Okay, at this clip, another congressman chimes in.
	This is Joe Bonner, and that's a man, by the way.
	He's from Alabama, Mobile.
	And you have to imagine him when he speaks.
	He's as though they're talking about marijuana and all the rest of it.
	And he's got this snide look on his face like he's just figured something out that's really important.
	Like, remember George Bush used to put this look on his face once in a while, like he knows something.
	He puts this look on his face to tell everyone, but has anyone noticed that the drug is illegal?
	And it's the dumbest thing you've ever heard.
	You know, you might ask him, or if you don't ask him, I'll ask him.
	I think the Attorney General is really going to have to speak out on this.
	He cannot pull a Pontius Pilate and wash his hands.
	A Pontius Pilate?
	Mr.
	Chairman.
	Yes, Mr.
	Bonner.
	Outstanding question, and I'm not trying to put words in the administrator's mouth.
	She said this is a dangerous drug, but it's also an illegal drug.
	That's correct.
	So it's a dangerous, illegal drug.
	I think this has been an insightful hearing today.
	And I will say, the Attorney General is aware of that.
	We have been able to give input on the concerns we have, and he is looking at it, he's studying it, he's...
	Looking at those legal, you know, the DEA isn't going to look at the legal implications there.
	But he is, and he has said that they're doing a very good look at it.
	Both states, what they passed, are very different.
	They're taking the time to look at it and then to figure out a way forward.
	It really may require the President of the United States to speak out.
	Yeah, or give up his weed.
	So they're going to look at it.
	They're going to look at it.
	They're going to look at it.
	Hey, relevant.
	I have a relevant clip.
	I have a relevant clip.
	Hit it.
	Every single time I saw him, he'd make sure to say hi.
	He was very calm, relaxed all the time.
	For people who knew him, there were no warning signs.
	Andrew describes an average college sophomore who played intramural soccer, enjoyed FIFA soccer video games, and smoked a lot of marijuana.
	That's our Chechnya marathon bomber.
	Smoked a lot of marijuana.
	That's right.
	Because when you're really stoned, the first thing you do is like, Hey man, I got a great idea.
	Dig this out.
	Dig this out.
	I got a really good idea.
	One of these clips...
	I'm not going to play these clips because they're tedious because this woman is so dumb.
	But one of these clips, they talk about...
	I wish I could figure out which one of the ones is either two.
	It might be two.
	It might be four.
	Try to flip four and I can tell and then we can kill it.
	Okay.
	Some of the marijuana in cases like that, whereas legalized, will be the Mexican cartels who are involved in pretty heinous crimes whereby people's lives will ultimately be involved.
	The other question that I want to ask you then, if you could just...
	So maybe it was like this.
	Hey, hey, hey, I got a great idea.
	Let's...
	Let's do this.
	Let's do this thing hammered, man.
	How funny would this be if we're all really baked when we do this whole thing about marijuana?
	Hey, you, you administrator.
	Where are we going to get this stuff?
	Oh, any of our interns.
	Who's got the red vines?
	Dvorak.
	Educate, and I see our good friends from C-SPAN is here.
	Give them a toke.
	What you would say to a mom or dad or maybe a governor or a state legislator or a member of Congress...
	What is the problem with marijuana?
	If they were to say to your administrator, there's really not a problem, they've just legalized it in color.
	There's been no recognized medical use and treatment in the U.S., and that's been determined by the FDA on research that's been done.
	And there's a lack of accepted safety protocols for use of the drug, even under medical supervision.
	Fact!
	The reason why we're worried about this with young people is there's also a connection between schizophrenia, psychosis, and it's the young marijuana user.
	They have studies now.
	We didn't have these studies 10 years ago, but they have studies.
	They looked at the science, and this is a dangerous drug.
	And the message that the kids are going to get in social media, the message that kids are going to get on television, on the radio, in their songs, with their peers, is that it's a harmless drug.
	So as parents, the parents need to say...
	Here are the facts.
	Or here's where you can go to get the facts.
	Is it a gateway?
	Oh man, bring back This is Your Brain on Drugs, the egg commercial.
	Bring that one back.
	That was great.
	Remember that?
	Yeah, oh yeah, the egg.
	Yeah, this is your brain.
	This is your brain on drugs.
	And I was going like, cool.
	Cool.
	It's a gateway drug, John.
	Anyway, this just goes on and on.
	This woman is just an idiot.
	And these Republican congressmen, who are all for, by the way, the federalized aspect of all this, when they should be supporting the 10th Amendment and states' rights regarding this sort of law, because why did you have the Volstead Act?
	Prohibition, prohibiting the drinking of alcohol, had to be a constitutional amendment.
	Hey, hey, hey.
	Does it have to be?
	Hey, stop doing twit material on no agenda.
	This doesn't have to be?
	Yeah, very funny.
	Yeah.
	I take that material everywhere.
	As far as I'm concerned, explain to me.
	Why don't you explain it?
	Can you explain to me why they had to have a constitutional amendment to make the consumption of alcohol illegal in this country?
	But you don't need a constitutional amendment with marijuana and some of these recreational drugs.
	Okay, well, let me explain.
	First of all, because the states determine what people can do in their own state, not the federal government.
	The Constitution Bill of Rights determines specifically, and Tenth Amendment, specifically what the federal government can do.
	But when it comes to marijuana and federal regulation, which, of course, are highly disputed in California, although California is, you know, they're all on board with the program, so they don't have the National Guard shooting at the feds as they invade their sovereign state.
	They should.
	Yeah, they should shoot back, but they don't do that.
	And that is because, of course, people are blithering, uneducated idiots.
	By design, our schools are setting them up to not learn anything, to learn lies and propaganda, and to turn the entire state of the United States into a climate change-fearing bunch of blithering yahoos.
	Oh, I guess that explains it.
	Yeah.
	I mean, I'm not saying that...
	Okay.
	Let me just say this for a minute.
	I should have clipped this week in tech.
	Because who was the guy who was on with you?
	The guy with the gout?
	The gout guy?
	Roger Chang.
	Roger Chang.
	The only thing that triggered my response was his parroting the phrase federal law Trump state.
	Exactly.
	Thank you.
	And you heard that that I wasn't going to sit down and listen to that.
	Well, what's worse is that...
	That is a bullcrap meme that the media has propagated.
	What is worse is that...
	Here's why I'm frustrated.
	Because I'm seeing you...
	Surrounded by morons.
	And it hurts me as your friend and colleague.
	I'm like, oh my god, he's sitting there with morons.
	And I didn't even log into the chat room because I knew that the chat room would be, like, ganging up on you.
	No, no, no.
	The chat room was actually on my side for the most part.
	Oh, really?
	Oh, okay.
	Well, that's...
	That chatroom tends to be a bunch of radical libertarians.
	It was chatroom 2.
	You were in the overflow chatroom.
	You weren't in 1.
	Believe me.
	No, I know, but I watch 1.
	The layout in that place.
	I'm in 2, and then on this big screen, 1 is going on.
	That's why I kind of prefer to be in 2, because I can see the chatroom.
	The whole thing, it really made me sad, because I realized that so many people...
	Really believe this.
	And is Chang not a journalist?
	Doesn't he write for a living?
	What does he do?
	He's one of those guys at Rev3 doing shows.
	Oh, okay.
	So he's not a journalist.
	Okay.
	It's sad, John.
	It's just really, really sad when I hear that.
	And that is indoctrination and repetition and bullcrap that people get bestowed upon them by the media that they think this way.
	And it's rampant.
	And you can't stop it anymore.
	No, no.
	We've already decided you can't stop it.
	But at least you can fight your little battle.
	Right.
	How'd that work out for you?
	I didn't do it.
	I couldn't even get anyone to go look at the Tenth Amendment.
	It's like, whatever, Ed Dvorak.
	He's a crackpot.
	He's an old geezer.
	Hanging out with Curry.
	What does he know?
	Oh, yeah.
	And that ageist thing has got to stop, too.
	I mean, it's funny when you do it, because it's funny.
	But I'm not going to stand for people doing that to you anymore.
	Eric feels the same way.
	I don't think it's funny anymore.
	He's incredibly incensed, and I think with some justification, that they're always a liberal contingent.
	These liberals who have promoted this kind of, you know, don't stereotype, don't do this, don't do that, you know, politically correct, they're the most ageist people you'll ever run into.
	Oh, yeah.
	And so I didn't clip it, but Sheryl Sandberg was on the BBC. Here's the joke.
	So I'm talking about Sheryl Sandberg.
	She's got this new book.
	Sheryl Sandberg is the most powerful woman in Silicon Valley this week because she is the chief operating officer of Facebook.
	Right, that's where she's from.
	And she wrote a book called Lean In.
	And the punchline is to show your tits.
	In the morning!
	Okay.
	Buzzkill Junior wrote that.
	That kid's got a great career ahead of him.
	In the Catskills.
	It's going to be great.
	And I listen to this, and I'm listening, and Miss Mickey is listening, because my command center, which is basically in the kitchen, almost, in this house.
	And she's outraged by this bullcrap.
	She's like, you know, men and women are different.
	You can't, you just can't force it that we have to be exactly the same and, you know, just, and it's all about having babies and, you know, that's unfair.
	You know, it's, it's like one of these days we're going to.
	It's unfair that.
	Women have to have the baby.
	I'm telling you, one of these days we're going to wake up and I'm going to have to give birth through my butt.
	I'm telling you, that's going to be law.
	The way we're headed.
	Law.
	But there's this whole thing going on.
	I'm calling it the war on men, really, is what I'm...
	I like it.
	That's exactly what it is.
	Okay, so here is study fact.
	Let me just bring up the article here, because this one really made me laugh.
	From PopSci.com, which is, what is that?
	Popular Science, right?
	Popular Science Magazine?
	I guess.
	A new paper in the May issue of Journal of Experimental Social Psychology, which we need to subscribe to, suggests that even seeing images of female role models can help women speak publicly and perform as leaders.
	And so they tested this, and what picture scored the best with women to help them speak publicly and perform as leaders?
	What picture?
	Hillary Clinton.
	Fuck yeah.
	Exactly.
	Yes.
	It's obvious.
	Just seeing Hillary Clinton's face improves women's public speaking.
	So I think the next time...
	Don't you think that this is something pathetic about this?
	Totally pathetic.
	And it's like Hillary Clinton, you know, not a great person by any means, is so worshipped by a huge contingent.
	In fact, you can hear it when sometimes you get...
	These women, they just gush over Hillary and how much she's done and how important she is and what a great human being she is and all the work she's done.
	This is the woman who can't even sweat.
	She literally can't sweat.
	She's incapable of perspiration, I tell you.
	We've discussed this on the show and people have identified it.
	But guess what?
	Guess who was second?
	Who was second?
	Madeline Albright.
	No, no, no.
	Sorry.
	No, a little more Courant.
	Let me think.
	Anne Curry.
	No, so sorry.
	Angela Merkel.
	Oh my God.
	I would have never guessed that.
	Yeah.
	Third on the list?
	I don't even know she's a woman.
	I'm not sure.
	Who was third on the list?
	Who?
	Bill Clinton.
	I'm going to show my support by donating to No Agenda.
	Imagine all the people who could do that.
	Oh yeah, that'd be fab.
	Yeah, on No Agenda.
	Woohoo!
	In the morning.
	We have a few people to thank.
	Jeremy Johnson in Port Angeles, Washington, $125.69.
	The ITM, he says, in the morning.
	Good to see Miss Mickey on TV. I saw that, by the way.
	What did you think?
	I thought she's really a solid actress.
	And don't you think that she would be great for a third?
	Her line was a bit much.
	Her line.
	She had a couple of lines.
	But I thought she carried herself well.
	She was backlit, so you really couldn't even see her that well.
	But it was a good performance.
	I think it was very believable.
	She could get work.
	She should consider acting.
	Yeah, no, really.
	Seriously, it was really good.
	What I think is they should put her in season three.
	By the way, that show sucks.
	No, you know what?
	That's what I thought, too, but we really got into it.
	You're in it.
	It's like smoking dope.
	It's a gateway to Rubicon.
	Okay, I want to thank Nelda Smith in Tavares, Florida.
	$100.
	She came in as a check and she did send a note and a card, which I feel obliged to read.
	Dear John and Adam, my son had been telling me about your show and I really have enjoyed listening since January.
	Please send karma for my family and LGY. Thanks, Nelda.
	Western 6, Xavier, Jack 9.
	There you go.
	She's a ham.
	Of course she's a ham.
	You know, the hams are all over this show, man.
	Hold on a second.
	Here's some karma for her.
	You've got karma.
	And a little groyer.
	Yay!
	That is the hippest hashtag to use.
	W6XJN. $73.
	Charles Boise, Idaho.
	$100.
	Aaron Baer, Elkins Park, Pennsylvania.
	$100.
	Leonard Leonard Leonard Leonard Leonard Mooresville, Indiana.
	$73.73.
	He's also a ham.
	Kevin Nine, Kevin Jones, Netanyahu.
	Yeah, real good there, John.
	You know what?
	Can I just say one thing about this?
	I am very disappointed that American hams go through this.
	They don't just use, like, the traditional alphabet.
	So it would be Kilo Nine, Kilo Juliet November.
	They all have to come up with these stupid, like...
	Oh, yeah, yeah.
	It's annoying.
	Get on board with the program, old hams.
	Yes.
	Right.
	Steven Sevachuk.
	69!
	69!
	Sorry.
	I overshot.
	By the way, back to Hutchinson.
	He does mention he leaves a mac and cheese life.
	Thank you.
	Thank you for...
	Steven Sevachuk in West Orange, New Jersey.
	70-69.
	My old stomping grounds.
	And he said karma worked for him.
	And now, you can ring the bell.
	69!
	69, dudes!
	And I will mention, there's only one, and it came in almost at the last minute.
	Whoa!
	Because once this is over, that's it, right?
	We're not accepting him anymore.
	We're not going to ring the bell anymore.
	We'll accept them, but we're not going to make a big deal.
	There's no more 69-69.
	The streak will be over.
	So this is really pushing it.
	So maybe Schoen should come back with a donation.
	So do I ring the bell to close it out or what?
	Yeah, as soon as I say Mark Schwaben.
	I'm sorry, he lives in Mark Schwaben, which is in Deutschland, I guess.
	Steven Schoen.
	Oh, this is a happy birthday donation for the one with the cute butt, Carrie.
	Who's that?
	Some special John and Adam karma for her.
	In case John gets around, he would love to get as much talked about recipe for pulled pork.
	The smoker's ready.
	Lots of greetings from Mark Schwaben.
	Schwab in Deutschland.
	That's the one who has the, she put the no agenda on her butt for the, she's the runner, isn't she?
	Yeah, she's the runner.
	It says noagendashow.com on her butt, and she's got a pretty butt, so she gets a lot of attention, and she's wearing a tight European kind of outfit.
	Yeah, yeah.
	So anyway, she started it, and maybe it would be ironic, but it would be cool if Stefan ended it.
	Could be.
	69!
	69, dude!
	Could be.
	Could be.
	It's been about a year and a half.
	Who started it again?
	Carrie.
	Carrie started it.
	Yes.
	Oh, man.
	Time flies when you're having fun.
	Just got a visual.
	Dean Fredrickson, 6616.
	Sam Menor, Box Hill Scout Victoria, double nickels on the dime.
	Eric Veet in Dublin, 50 bucks.
	And finally, this is how short this is.
	We're short, people.
	Yeah.
	Adam Willis in Arlington, Virginia, $50.
	He canceled his $4 a week subscription because I was annoyed by all the inbox receipts and lines of donations in my bank statement.
	If you make a $16 a month donation link available, I'll be happy to resubscribe.
	Okay.
	We'll set something like that up.
	And he would like to have a little call-out which we'll give him, which unfortunately I just clicked on the wrong button.
	What do you want in science?
	Science is in.
	Science is in karma.
	The science is in!
	You've got karma.
	So that closes out our donation segment.
	Yes, bad.
	And hopefully we'll make things up by Thursday.
	The news cycle improves too, which wouldn't be a bad thing.
	Okay, we need a better news cycle, we need better art, and more contributions, more support.
	I feel a little shorted because I work really hard.
	Oh, well, whatever.
	No, whatever.
	Adam and John will be traveling to Calgary, Alberta, Canada, where all the money is at the end of the month, for a work assignment handling insurance claims for my company.
	I'll be there for at least a month.
	By the way, I got this note and I was thinking about it, and I sent him to Airbnb and I haven't heard back, so I think he's found his solution.
	Well, okay, so he was...
	Because I didn't want to turn the show into a dating site, you know.
	He needed a room for $2,000 a month or something.
	What does that have to do with dating?
	Well, it's like once we start getting people housing on the show, the next thing you know we're going to be a dating site.
	But once he went to Airbnb, I haven't heard back.
	Well, the only reason why I figured I'd pick it out of the pile is because he's a monthly producer.
	Yeah, no, that's why I was corresponding with him, and I think he's found this.
	Airbnb in Calgary and that whole area has got all kinds of good deals.
	He was going through, I don't know, Hotwire.com or something.
	Oh, no, no, no.
	It was cheap.
	So we're, this summer, and you and I have discussed this briefly in one email conversation.
	So Ms.
	Mickey and I are going to go to Europe.
	And I had requested with you specifically, I said, I'd like to take one week, one whole week off, which you immediately came back with, college fund, whatever.
	I can't remember what it was.
	It literally was like...
	The answer, bullcrap.
	It was something along those lines.
	I'll figure it out.
	No, no.
	What it was, was you're the one that makes such a big deal about always doing the show.
	Yeah, because of college fund.
	You wanted to take a week off.
	Because I have to clear my head.
	And, above all, we've been invited to stay with my friend Michel at his house in the south of France.
	And I know that that basically means we're just drunk for a week.
	So I'm like, I can't be, like, you can't do it half.
	Well, so I'm taking the new box, which, by the way, I did the test of the podcaster.
	And I think I'm going to try it on the show on Thursday.
	Once again, explain.
	You made a box.
	Yeah, so I made a box.
	It's supposed to be very small, portable, and the idea is if you have this box, you can do the No Agenda show.
	So you can do clips.
	You can do Skype.
	You can do the whole thing.
	And it will sound good, too.
	That's the whole idea.
	So phase one is getting the whole thing together, getting all the elements.
	Phase two is creating it into a mobile situation that is small enough that I can actually test it.
	Because phase four or five would be...
	To have someone build this in one single unit, now it's a whole bunch of print boards and pieces that I've put together.
	But actually, we went through stage three.
	I dropped it by accident, but from like chest height.
	That would be stage three.
	That would be the testing, the drop test.
	Yeah, drop test, and it worked.
	Stage 3.5.
	Yeah, and it still worked, so that was really cool.
	It's very light, and so I'm very excited about it.
	But right now, you know, it's like a box with a whole bunch of wires, so it doesn't really look all that fantastic.
	But it has everything you need.
	All you need to do is add a computer.
	Any computer will do.
	It doesn't have to be something specific.
	And you can do this show.
	That is the promise.
	You could also do a daily source code with it.
	But that is the promise of the podcast.
	So anyway, I want to take that to Europe.
	So what we're going to do is we're going to fly into Amsterdam.
	When are you going?
	What day?
	So the idea is July 19th, I think.
	Let me see.
	Hold on a second.
	Let me check this out.
	I'll tell you exactly what we're going to do.
	So you can drone me.
	I've got to put it in the book.
	Yes.
	Okay.
	Put it in the book.
	So July...
	Where are we?
	June.
	Here we go.
	June, July.
	Yes.
	So after the show on the 18th, we would leave on Friday the 19th, so there would be no show on the 21st.
	And so we fly to Amsterdam on the 19th.
	Then we fly down to, we're just staying overnight in Amsterdam, one night and a half.
	Then we're going to fly down to the south of France on the 21st or 22nd.
	Then we're drunk that whole week.
	And through the 27th, right?
	And then on the 27th or 28th, I can't freaking remember.
	Then we drive to my sister in Florence.
	And then we fly back on Wednesday the 31st.
	Then on Thursday the 1st of August, I do a show again from...
	Oh, I'm sorry.
	So actually, when I arrive in Amsterdam, Sunday the 21st, we do a show, then take the Thursday and Sunday off after that, and then we're back on the 1st.
	This is not what my life is, people.
	This is what it is.
	It makes me mad when we get slow donations.
	What am I doing with my life?
	Give us a rundown, because I need to know these dates.
	Okay.
	So we have a show from Amsterdam on the Sunday the 21st.
	Then no show on the 25th.
	No show on the 28th.
	We resume the show August the 1st from Amsterdam again.
	And then on the 8th, I'm back in Texas for the show.
	On the 1st, you're going to do a show on Amsterdam.
	Yes, 1st of August.
	Oh, boy.
	Wow.
	Taking a whole week off.
	That's my vacation.
	That's less than the average shittest enslaved gets.
	You're going to be gone from the 18th.
	No, I'm working.
	Back to the first.
	That's two weeks.
	I'm working on the 21st.
	Working on my so-called vacation.
	Well.
	I don't just show up for the show, John.
	There is actual work that goes into it.
	I think you might do the same.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	I know, but I'm just saying.
	It's not as though that.
	No, it gets me angry.
	I don't want to talk about it anymore.
	Screw it.
	I'll do it after the show.
	I'm looking at this, I'm like, what am I doing this for?
	Take an extra week off then, for God's sake.
	What about doing some reruns or something?
	You might as well.
	Maybe somebody can make us another one of these clip shows.
	Let's just have some other hosts come in.
	That's a good idea.
	You want to kill the show, is that what you're saying?
	Yeah, I'm considering it.
	Perfect.
	After I kill myself.
	Hold on a second.
	You should never say that.
	Now that's going to be used as evidence that you killed yourself.
	I'm going to erase it from the show.
	Mr. Adam Curry.
	Hold up the door, Mr. Curry, now!
	Dvorak.org slash N-A.
	It's your birthday, birthday.
	Oh, no, I'll hurt you.
	All right, Nick the Rat has just suggested that you do the show with Leo.
	I think we have a winner!
	That's a great idea, Nick.
	Stephen Schoen, of course, says happy birthday to Carrie Cutebutt Schoen, and we appreciate you coming in with what may be the final Swazzle Knopf donation of 6969.
	Arbine Meta says congratulations to his son Avi Meta, turns one today on the 20th of April.
	Sir Ray Jacobson, congratulations to his brother Ron, turns 49 tomorrow.
	And his nephew Peter turns 18 tomorrow as well.
	Happy birthday from your friends here at the Best Podcast in the Universe!
	And then we have one nighting from our associate executive producer today.
	That is Warren Carroll, who came in with a $200 donation, making him associate executive producer of this episode, 506 of The No Agenda Show.
	And, of course, that takes him up to...
	His knighting, so Warren Carroll, step forward, please, and lean as we are very happy to welcome you to that elite group of supporters who supported the No Agenda podcast in the amount of $1,000 or more.
	So I hereby pronounce the Sir Warren Knight of the No Agenda Roundtable for you, sir.
	Thank you for supporting us.
	Thank you everybody else who supported us.
	Also our monthly donations.
	And please, if you have not donated recently or if you have never donated, here's what I don't want you to do.
	You hereby no longer have permission to email me.
	How many do you get of these, John?
	Hi!
	Love the show!
	Boner, can't donate, have no money, but...
	I'm not going to answer these anymore.
	I'm sick and tired of it.
	You answer them?
	Yeah, I try.
	I'm hopeful.
	If somebody has something good to say, I'll pay attention.
	It's complicated.
	Let's take a little bit of medical news here.
	It was very interesting.
	I think maybe they're trying to reclassify Tylenol or something.
	Have you been following this?
	No, I don't know anything about the Tylenol thing.
	Yeah, so there's articles everywhere about Tylenol basically being good for your mind.
	It makes you less anxious.
	Tylenol is not good for your liver.
	No, in fact, it's very bad for your liver.
	Many people a year die from ODing on Tylenol.
	But I guess they're trying to reclassify it as some kind of calming drug.
	Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.
	There's a big PR push.
	It's the same story everywhere.
	Research has shown that people who take Tylenol regularly, it's not addictive like narcotics, but it soothes your mind.
	I have not heard any of it.
	Let me start.
	Look it up!
	Look it up.
	Tylenol specifically.
	Not even the drug, which is, what is it?
	Acetaphetamine.
	Acetaphetamine, yes.
	Here it is.
	The more it studied, the more it seems we may be overlooking subtle cognitive effects.
	Research shows it dulls the pain of social rejection.
	Heh heh heh heh heh.
	Yes, this is very good.
	What's Tylenol doing to our minds?
	Asks James Hamblin of the Atlantic.
	Apparently this started in 2009.
	They've been pushing this apparently so poorly that I didn't even know about it until now.
	No, it started popping up.
	Started popping up.
	Sir Dr.
	Sharkey, who is our...
	Several hundred people in the U.S. will die in 2013 from liver failure after acetaminophen overdose.
	Acetaminophen, right.
	I'm sorry, go on.
	Well, I'm looking at the Atlantic article now as well.
	But I've seen it in several places, and people have been sending me this, that it's...
	Among people who took the placebo, those who wrote about existential anxiety set much higher bail than those who wrote about the dentist.
	But if they took Tylenol and wrote existentially, the sense of moral judgment seemed to be blunted.
	I'm telling you, Tylenol makes you feel good.
	You watch, you watch.
	The lead researcher is C, look this guy up, C. Nathan DeWall, D-E, capital W-A-L-L, the University of Kentucky.
	He says nobody's ever tested the idea that it alleviates the physical pain and social rejection.
	As you get, oh, I feel bad because somebody told me to get lost.
	Bullying, bullying.
	Bullying, ah!
	There you go.
	Watch it show up.
	Here, Tommy.
	Tommy, take some Tylenol with you to school just in case you get bullied.
	Yeah, you can also take a punch better.
	Let's do this.
	Hold on a second.
	Let me just...
	What's the book of knowledge?
	Tylenol bully.
	Let's see if anything shows up.
	Tylenol.
	Each evening participants answered questions on the so-called hurt-feeling scale, which measures social pain caused by, say, teasing.
	Hurt feelings and social pain decreased over time in those taking acetaminophen, while no change was observed in subjects taking the placebo.
	The participants' happiness levels didn't change much over the course of the study for either group, so they didn't get any happier.
	No, it's not happier.
	Let's buy volunteers.
	Okay.
	Well, I'm just saying, I'm just identifying it.
	I'm not a medical doctor.
	You know, some other people, I've got a clip here, some other people are identifying stuff that I would have never suspected in a million years.
	Play the puppies clip.
	What's going on with this?
	The Taliban finances much of its operations by selling opium, which is grown from poppies, which are right now being harvested.
	So, here's the question.
	Why are American troops now helping Afghan farmers grow that opium?
	What?
	Nick Chisholm reports from Afghanistan on a controversial new policy.
	Wait, you have a minute.
	In western Kandahar, poppy farmers score, kill, harvest their crop, and the Americans do nothing to stop them.
	What genius is this that we've been tracking this for five years?
	What genius news show was this on?
	It was a BBC or something.
	Really?
	But as soon as I saw it, I said, where did these guys find the memo at the bottom of the drawer?
	How is this news?
	Oh my goodness.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	And also, imports from Burma are now up as well, now that we've opened it all up.
	Well, look, we know GE is importing cocaine legally.
	I mean, God, please.
	I mean, this is not like big secrets, everybody.
	So apparently the Afghan airline, whatever, Agua, whatever it's called, we refuse to do business with them, and they're the ones that are shipping all the...
	I guess we do not have full control over the entire poppy heroin-opium distribution network, because this airline...
	And it doesn't take much research to figure this out.
	They keep flying to some town up in one of those Russian states.
	They just loaded the gills with heroin and opium, and then they go straight into Russia.
	And I guess they haven't been playing ball with us, and I think that's where the Taliban's getting their money from these guys.
	We are in the wrong business.
	We're in the wrong business.
	Oh yeah, these guys.
	And apparently this one airport just takes all the shipments.
	Nobody gives a crap.
	They just bring it in.
	I got a drunk or not drunk thing if you want to try it.
	We need a jingle for that.
	I know, I've been waiting.
	Is this Diane Sawyer?
	No!
	Okay, it's just...
	This is our friend Pat Leahy.
	Pat Leahy, and Pat is where...
	How are we acquainted with Pat?
	He's a senator, he's up there talking about gun control in front of Congress.
	Oh, okay.
	And you tell me, I don't know, I could be wrong.
	Drunk or not drunk, here we go.
	And if we agree that the background check system is worthwhile, should we not try to inform its content?
	Wait, can it be hammered stone as well, or only drunk or not drunk?
	And you, so it can be more effective?
	What responsible gun owner objects to improving the background check system?
	Stand up and be counted.
	Now, January hearing, I pointed out...
	That Wayne LaPierre, the NRA, testified in 1999 in favor of mandatory criminal background checks, whereas he put every sale at every gun show.
	He went on to emphasize NRA's support for closing loophole in the background check system by saying, in what has become an off-coded remark, no loopholes anywhere for anyone.
	What the fuck?
	What the fuck?
	It's common sense.
	Right, okay.
	Common sense.
	Just say...
	Common sense.
	Harry Reid...
	He was drunk, by the way.
	Harry Reid, who was not drunk, gave us...
	He messed it up.
	He gave us the code.
	Then he thought, oh wait, that's the wrong code.
	Oh wait, no, it's the right code.
	Family and friends.
	Of those who were injured and killed in Aurora, Colorado were there.
	We had people hear from the tragedy.
	Did he forget how to read?
	No, listen.
	33, 32, 33 people killed.
	33, 32, 33 people killed.
	Please, Harry, get it straight.
	Three, that's the magic number.
	It's all we got here.
	It's the magic number.
	Thirty-three, thirty-two, thirty-three people killed.
	All right, we got it.
	We got it.
	Glad you got it right.
	Okay, that's all good.
	He was giving the measurements of his flat girlfriend.
	Hey now.
	Anyway, let me see if I have this here.
	I was going to...
	Hey.
	Uh-oh.
	Did I lose this somehow?
	This is really bad.
	Oh, crap.
	Oh, here it is.
	Yes.
	Happy Earth Gay.
	Earth Gay?
	Yes.
	Happy Earth Gay.
	You know what tomorrow is?
	Tomorrow is the 22nd.
	Earth Gay?
	Yes.
	Happy Earth Gay.
	Well, Earth Day is in just two days, but here in Seattle, we're already getting a head start.
	Hundreds of volunteers from Out for Sustainability, a local gay advocacy group, cleaned up trails along the shores of Lake Union today for what they are dubbing Earth Gay.
	Armed with shovels and rakes, they weeded, mulched, and cleared out invasive non-native plants from the area.
	Organizers say Seattle's gay community echoes the city's view when it comes to saving the planet.
	It symbolizes the collective global care of the planet that we all share.
	And Earth Gay is a really interesting expression of that because we get to be visible both within our city but also within that movement.
	EarthGay is in its fifth year, but organizers say it is gaining in popularity.
	The event has already expanded to Tacoma, and next year the group wants to bring it to Portland.
	Austin can't be far off!
	EarthGay, everybody!
	Perfect!
	You know, if they're going to clean up the place...
	Go whatever you want.
	So gay and climate change seem to be going together very well, as reported here by Representative Whitehouse, Democrats in the U.S. Congress.
	To the extent that your question is, what can we do to make a higher profile for this issue, meetings like this and occasions like this actually answer that question.
	For quite a while, we've been timid.
	About standing up for what we know the scientific facts to be.
	I think we got knocked down by a very powerful propaganda campaign by the polluting industries.
	Polluting industries!
	As you pointed out, the weather changes that we've seen, the sea level changes have pushed back.
	It's not in line with the lies!
	...public opinion, so that the propaganda campaign is, I think, of less and less effect.
	And now I think it's our task to try to make sure that climate change lines up right behind immigration.
	And gay rights has an issue where the Republicans see that if they stick with this, they're going to run off the cliff like lemmings.
	Yeah!
	Die!
	Die!
	Die, all of you lemmings!
	So tomorrow is Earth Day, and their 350.org is launching a new movie!
	How about Coney?
	It's almost as good.
	So this is very interesting.
	350.org is run.
	I guess the head guy is Bill McKibben.
	Yeah, we've talked about him before.
	Yes, we have.
	And so I would like to play.
	This is called Do the Math.
	Yeah, so this is a bit...
	Do the math, the movie.
	This is Do the Math, the movie.
	And I would add to it, do the math, slaves.
	And listen to the trailer, because it's very interesting, the memes that are being thrown in your face in regards to how we are...
	We are basically, we're dead.
	I mean, you're not even hearing me talking, because life cannot exist.
	We're dead.
	To profit from that wreckage...
	2012 was the hottest year in the United States since scientists started keeping records.
	My guest, Bill McKibben, our nation's leading environmentalist.
	We're building the kind of political movement that will change things.
	As of tonight, we're taking on the fossil fuel industry directly.
	These companies are a rogue force.
	We're no longer at the point of trying to stop global warming too late for that.
	We're trying to keep it from becoming a complete and utter calamity.
	Carbon in the atmosphere greater than 350 parts per million is not compatible with life on Earth.
	That's strong language for scientists to use.
	Today, the atmosphere is 395 parts per million.
	We're dead!
	Oh no!
	The fossil fuel industry has five times more coal and oil than gas is safe to burn.
	They are locking us into a future that we can't survive.
	This is the biggest emergency the human family has faced since it came out of the caves.
	Since we came out of the caves!
	In America's history!
	If they carry out their business plan, planet tanks.
	Tar sands are the turning point in our fossil fuel addiction.
	I say it's criminal and I say that not like it.
	We subsidize the fossil fuel industries.
	And that is just financially and morally bankrupt.
	We have to send a message that we are going to hold them live.
	We have a moral catastrophe on our hands.
	What's at stake now is civilization itself.
	This is the only question that will matter in the long run.
	We're all gonna die.
	Die.
	So very interesting.
	You should actually re-cut that and put that voice at the end.
	We're all gonna die.
	I love it how, if they execute their business plan, it's all over.
	You have your business plan over here, Billy?
	Yeah, we're gonna kill the Earth.
	Yeah, here it is.
	I got the PowerPoint right here.
	Go to slide 8, which is the kill the Earth slide.
	That's before our P&L. Well, how's that gonna benefit us?
	Before they...
	If they execute their business plan, they will kill everybody on Earth.
	So I started reading...
	What a bad trailer.
	Well, I'll get to that in a second.
	So I looked up their most recent...
	This is pretty funny.
	This is their most recent Form 990.
	And this company, this organization, the Board of Directors, Van Jones, who was the guy who was...
	Oh, yeah.
	All the usual suspects.
	But here's what's interesting.
	So, on the Board of Directors is an actual dead person, Elizabeth Taylor, who last year, according to the report, worked three hours.
	That's great.
	Must be a different Elizabeth Taylor.
	No, no, no.
	Elizabeth Taylor.
	What are you talking about?
	A different one.
	Some woman named Elizabeth Taylor.
	No.
	Naomi Klein.
	These are all celebrities.
	Let me see if Elizabeth Taylor.
	So they dug her up from the grave and somehow she worked three hours?
	Elizabeth Taylor, 350.
	There's a joke in there somewhere.
	I'm sorry I couldn't just come up with it instantly.
	Let me just see if she's a member of this or not.
	Elizabeth Taylor.
	I mean, I don't know.
	Well, I don't know.
	Maybe it's a different Elizabeth Taylor then.
	Well, maybe just...
	Yeah, it seems...
	Well, they have her down for three hours according to their tax filing.
	She died in March 23, 2011.
	This must be the 2011 thing.
	Dude, it doesn't matter if it was 2012 or 2011.
	She was not working between January and March.
	She was in hospital, dead.
	In the hospital.
	No, in hospital is the way we say it.
	Come on.
	Don't they have the board of directors here?
	Let's see.
	Our sources...
	Well, this is crazy.
	And what would she do for three hours?
	I don't know.
	Apparently something.
	So this outfit...
	Do it as sex, perhaps?
	So they made three million.
	Three million they brought in.
	It's very interesting.
	We've talked about these guys before.
	But anyway, I agree.
	I think it's a very good trailer.
	What I think is interesting about this trailer is they are actually kind of using conspiracy theorist-type language.
	Yeah, I noticed that.
	And editing.
	It's like, if they complete their business plan.
	And this is exactly, you know, if the elites, if the Rothschilds complete their business plan, every man, woman, and child will be enslaved.
	Yeah.
	So I started reading State of Fear by Michael Crichton.
	Oh, my God.
	A must-read book.
	A must-read for anybody.
	And they probably killed him.
	How did you die?
	That's what I was always thinking.
	How did he die?
	With a pricker.
	What did he die of?
	Cancer?
	Cancer, I think, yeah.
	Oh, my God.
	So there's this whole...
	He actually equates the global warming, climate change, advertising, call you what you want, movement to the eugenics program of the Nazis.
	And what's the connection?
	Killing people!
	Oh, well, there could be that.
	Yeah.
	Well, they definitely want, you know, this is the same group that wants to cut the population.
	We got too many people.
	Yes.
	I mean, it's all these people stem from the same basic movements.
	There was that Club of Rome, so we had too many people.
	There was that, the zero bomb or whatever it was called, that Stanford guy wrote about, where the population growth bomb, whatever it was called, that was going to, we have too many people, we got to stop.
	And then there was also the same group that had the climate change where it was global freezing.
	We're going to have a new ice age.
	And, you know, we won't be able to sustain all these people.
	And now we can't sustain whatever because, you know, everyone's going to be dead.
	No, there's a large contingent of...
	Well, there's two.
	There's actually, the way I see it, there's two groups.
	There's the contingent that propagates these messages and memes.
	What I would like to do is I'd like to read.
	I'd like to do a reading.
	And there were the dummies.
	Can I do a reading?
	Oh, I'd love to hear a reading by you.
	Can I do a little reading, an excerpt from State of Fear?
	Yes.
	And you stop me when it's boring, okay?
	Go.
	Well, you better be careful because sometimes I don't stop you.
	Sometimes.
	Oh, yeah.
	Imagine there's a new scientific theory that warns of an impending crisis and points to a way out.
	This theory quickly draws support from leading scientists, politicians, and celebrities around the world.
	Research is funded by distinguished philanthropies and carried out at prestigious universities.
	The crisis is reported frequently in the media.
	The science is taught in college and high school classrooms.
	I don't mean global warming.
	I'm talking about another theory which rose to prominence a century ago.
	Its supporters included Theodore Roosevelt, Woodrow Wilson, and Winston Churchill.
	It was approved by the Supreme Court.
	Justices Oliver Wendell Holmes and Louis Brandeis who ruled in its favor.
	The famous names who supported it include Alexander Graham Bell, inventor of the telephone, activist Margaret Sanger, botanist Luther Burbank, Leland Stanford, founder of Stanford University, the novelist H.G. Wells, the playwright George Bernard Shaw, and hundreds of others.
	Nobel Prize winners gave support.
	Research was backed by Carnegie and Rockefeller foundations.
	The Cold Springs Harbor Institute was built to carry out this research.
	But important work was also done at Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Stanford, and John Hopkins.
	Legislation to address the crisis was passed in states from New York to California.
	These efforts had the support of the National Academy of Sciences, the American Medical Association, and the National Research Council.
	It was said that if Jesus were alive, he would have supported this effort.
	You've got to write that one down, because Jesus, that'll come back for global warming.
	All in all, the research, legislation, and molding of public opinion surrounding the theory went on for almost half a century.
	Those who opposed the theory were shouted down and called reactionary, blind to reality, or just plain ignorant.
	But in hindsight, what is surprising is that so few people objected.
	Today, we know that this famous theory that gained so much support was actually pseudoscience.
	The crisis's claim was non-existent, and the actions taken in the name of the theory were morally and criminally wrong.
	Ultimately, they led to the death of millions of people.
	The theory was eugenics, and its history is so dreadful, and to those who were caught up in it, so embarrassing, that it is now rarely discussed, but it is a story that should be well known to every citizen so that its horrors are not repeated.
	This is literally from the book.
	Yeah.
	This is good, good stuff.
	And then you read through what eugenics is.
	It was essentially not letting weak people crossbreed with strong people.
	And this is how the whole Jew thing came about.
	Because the Jews were seen as weak.
	And they had to be exterminated.
	All the science was developed by the United States.
	That's right.
	We promoted it with the same kind of propaganda.
	Oh, I'm on board.
	Oh, you're an idiot.
	The science is in.
	Everybody agrees that this is better.
	We got to the point where we were experimenting on the public.
	We were giving idiots syphilis.
	All this stuff was because we didn't give a crap.
	It was dreadful.
	It was part of this whole thing that was taking place in the 20s.
	Where they had the time motion studies and all the rest of it.
	There was a very weird time in American history.
	But yeah, everyone was on board.
	And then, well, shh, shh, shh, don't say anything.
	The Nazis actually implemented it.
	Yep, H.G. Wells spoke against ill-trained swarms of inferior citizens.
	Theodore Roosevelt said that society has no business to permit degenerates to reproduce their kind.
	Luther Burbank, stop permitting criminals and weaklings to reproduce.
	George Bernard Shaw said the only eugenics could save mankind.
	Right, this was the era of forced sterilization.
	Yeah.
	When you go to court, you'd be found guilty of misdemeanor or something or other, and then they'd force you to be sterilized.
	Oh, you've got to cut the guy's balls off.
	That'll change things.
	That'll fix it.
	You don't have to worry about his kids.
	But I just love the comparison that Crichton makes to the current, you know, you're crazy, you're shouted down.
	It's exactly the same thing.
	And what will this wind up doing?
	I think this will eventually wind up killing people.
	This whole climate change thing.
	Stop breathing.
	I'm sorry.
	You've had too many breaths today.
	You have to limit your breathing.
	Anyway.
	Yep.
	Good book.
	A reading by Adam Clark Curry.
	That was good.
	Thank you.
	We could do more readings.
	We probably should introduce that to the show.
	Or maybe I should just do an audio book.
	Oh, apparently it is just...
	Maybe you should.
	Yeah, apparently it pays nothing.
	You can do it.
	I mean, it's apparently hours and hours and hours, and then the guys stop you and say, can you reread that sentence?
	Oh, God, do I have to?
	Yeah.
	I would do it if only to have Leo have to promote me for audible.com.
	That would be enough reason.
	Actually, you'd have to do it all on this QT. I'd go on this show and then I'd say, you know what book I heard?
	Play this.
	And then he'd see your name and freak.
	Oh, when did he do that?
	So, Sir Dr.
	Sharkey, a recent Knight of the Know Agenda Roundtable, we have a number of doctors, physicians who produce the show, listen to it, and contribute.
	And so he's been following along with the war on crazy that we've been talking about.
	And I just wanted to read the email from him.
	He said, Adam, it's not just mental illness.
	With physical illness, the so-called experts keep changing their definitions.
	When I started my training, diabetes meant blood sugar higher than 200.
	Then it was 140.
	Now it's 126.
	Then several years ago, they invented pre-diabetes.
	The number to meet that definition has gradually gone down to over 100.
	The same can be said for blood pressure and cholesterol.
	Actually, my doctor pointed out the cholesterol conundrum.
	He says they keep changing the number.
	He says they max out the amount of drugs they can prescribe and then they change the number.
	Yeah, we got new customers.
	How are we going to get new customers, Bill?
	Let's change the number.
	Yeah, we need some new customers.
	Yeah.
	I love it.
	It's genius.
	Oh, and I finally figured out Max Keiser's angle on Bitcoin.
	Okay.
	Ready for it?
	I'm ready.
	Here he is with his girlfriend.
	Maybe it's his fiancée.
	Apparently he's stooping Stacey.
	Did you know that?
	Stooping who?
	Stacey.
	Stacey Herbert.
	That woman that's on the show?
	Yeah, that's his girlfriend.
	Let me see.
	I can't remember what she looks like.
	Max?
	She's good for him, I think.
	And Stacey...
	Images.
	Max Keiser and Stacey.
	You know who she is.
	She's got the short hair.
	She's always like, oh, Max, you're so funny.
	She's like Howard Stern's Robin.
	Oh, that woman!
	Yeah, yeah.
	So apparently they're lovers or whatever.
	That doesn't matter.
	Anyway, so she kind of leads him into the disclosure.
	Now, this is the...
	Or wife, someone's yelling in the chat room.
	All right.
	Winklevoss twins have invested.
	They own 1% of Bitcoin, apparently.
	And Cameron Winklevoss says, people say it's a Ponzi scheme.
	It's a bubble.
	People really don't want to take it seriously.
	At some point, that narrative will shift to virtual currencies are here to stay.
	We're in the early days.
	Now, Max, you have a patent on virtual currencies, and this is what we're going to talk about in the next episode.
	Hello.
	Yeah.
	He has a patent.
	Yeah, I think we...
	I forgot about the patent, but yeah.
	I didn't know that.
	I think we kind of mentioned this, maybe.
	Well, he has a patent, but apparently he's licensed the patent to Cantor Fitzgerald.
	Okay.
	So...
	Anyway, what is the thing that...
	Ah, there's some Silicon Valley thing that they're trying to launch.
	Goonies or boonies or...
	They tried this with beans and juice and donuts.
	There's a new one.
	We've got to laugh about it.
	What is it?
	Eric DeShield pointed this out to me.
	Zoomies, Coinies.
	Come on, what is it called?
	I don't know.
	It's the Open Coin Initiative.
	Open Coin.
	I like that.
	Hold on.
	I think that's what it is.
	Open Coin.
	Let me just check.
	I like that idea.
	I think that's a good name.
	Maybe it's not called that, but I just made up a really good one.
	I thought it was called the OpenCoin Initiative.
	OpenCoin.
	Yes, OpenCoin.
	There we go.
	I'm right.
	OpenCoin.
	Ripple.
	Ripple.
	There we go.
	It's a Ripple.
	It's a Ripple?
	Ripple.
	You mean like the cheap wine?
	Yes, Ripple.com.
	Go to Ripple.com.
	The world's first open payment network.
	It's free!
	It's open!
	Only 0.0001 per transaction.
	Say goodbye to 2 to 3% fees.
	Your money should belong to you.
	Send money in dollars, euros, yen, or bitcoin.
	No added work or fees for foreign transactions.
	Transactions are confirmed within seconds.
	No more wedding days for bank transfers.
	Well, they're hitting all my buttons.
	That's the idea.
	Yeah.
	No, it's great.
	Ripple.
	Ripple.
	Part of the OpenCoin initiative.
	Well, we'll see.
	But Bitcoin's at what today?
	125?
	Yeah, good.
	We're rolling back up again.
	We're rocking it.
	Dump it.
	I'm not.
	I'm not dumping it at all.
	One day, either we're just going to laugh about it or I'm going to build a house.
	If I'm worth a hundred million dollars, you build more than a house.
	Yeah.
	I'll build you a house, too.
	Put that in the red book.
	Thanks, okay?
	Put it in the red book.
	I get a house.
	So the, uh...
	Adam owes me a house.
	So on the 30th of April, the Dutch Queen will abdicate her throne to the Prince of Pils, the Pilsner Prince, Prince Beer, Willem Alexander, with his smoke-and-heart Argentinian Princess Maxima, who is just, every boy loves dreaming of her.
	That's the princess you want.
	Google her.
	Is she a hottie?
	Google Princess Maxima.
	Are you kidding me?
	Is she a hottie?
	She's from Argentina.
	What's she doing from that?
	What?
	That makes no sense.
	Oh, Holland and Argentina go way back.
	Way back.
	What's her last name again?
	Princess is her first name.
	What's her last name?
	Maxima.
	Maxima.
	Named after the magazine.
	That's right.
	Just Google her.
	Yeah, I'm seeing her.
	She's pretty.
	Come on, she's not pretty.
	She's smoking hot.
	She's kind of like Marissa Meyer can be hot.
	I think your Mickey is prettier.
	Yeah, hello.
	Of course Mickey's much prettier, much hotter.
	But for most royalty, you're ugly as sin.
	Well, I guess you have a point.
	Well, look at her husband.
	I mean, look at the prince.
	I mean, come on.
	The guy, unfortunately, looks like his grandmother.
	The guy is just beat-looking.
	Anyway, so they will become king and queen on the 30th of April, which of course is traditionally Queen's Day.
	And I think they'll keep the 30th of April to be King's Day and everything.
	But the celebrities of the Netherlands came together and there was this big, big brouhaha over the official song of the abdication.
	And the lyrics are, I mean, so I'm not going to go translate all the lyrics, but the lyrics are so insane.
	They're like, you know, we stand by you, King.
	We stand beside you.
	We build a dike with our bare hands for you.
	It sounds like something you'd hear in North Korea.
	It is completely North Korea.
	And now there's like petitions everywhere.
	Here's the BBC with a little report about the King Song controversy.
	The King Song controversy.
	Frig.
	That's the song.
	I don't want to play the whole song.
	It's one of the BBC report.
	I'm sorry.
	Prince Wilhelm Alexander and Princess Maxima.
	They are one of the most popular royal couples in Europe, which is possibly why this anthem has caused such a public outcry.
	What are you doing?
	It was released to celebrate the start of Wilhelm Alexander's reign, following his mother Queen Beatrix's abdication after 33 years on the throne.
	But many of their loyal subjects object to what they say are the unimaginative lyrics.
	I build a dyke with my bare hands and keep the water away.
	Through the rain and the wind, I will stay close to you.
	Others say this style isn't too Disney.
	Of course it's Disney.
	It's like North Korea.
	And then there's this unusual mix of musical genres.
	They've got a bunch of rappers in there.
	With just over a week to go until...
	I think they've gone insane.
	Yeah, but I like your meme, and we have lots of Dutch producers.
	You all should just go...
	I mean, when you read these lyrics, it literally is like, I stand by you, I stand beside you.
	Can you ever be ready for this huge job?
	I mean, all that's missing is the words, our beloved leader.
	It's really that sick.
	It's totally North Korean and Disney.
	Which is the same company.
	Disney's trying to open a shop in North Korea.
	It's the same company.
	Yeah, it's the same company.
	We know how to do this right.
	Yeah, we sure do, everybody.
	Absolutely.
	And they do.
	All righty.
	Well, we'll see what the week brings us.
	We will be...
	Ooh!
	I'm going to make an outstanding product, which I shall try on Thursday's show.
	A tip from our bacon guy at the Austin Market.
	Yeah?
	I'm going to make chocolate bacon on a stick.
	Ugh.
	This is the Texas part of the...
	This is the dark side of the UK. What's wrong with chocolate bacon on a stick?
	That's it.
	There's the dark side.
	You don't see anything wrong.
	There's nothing wrong with chocolate bacon on a stick.
	Just Google it.
	There's plenty of examples.
	Huh?
	Yeah, deep fat fried Snickers bars.
	That'll be next on your list.
	No, no.
	Chocolate bacon on a stick.
	That's what...
	Fried bologna.
	That's right.
	So we will have that outstanding product.
	We will be testing that on the show.
	And I'm sure we'll have all kinds of bull crap to deconstruct for you because that is what we do here on the best podcast in the universe.
	Please support us so we don't have to resort to begging.
	Have you tried chicken fried steak yet?
	You're in Texas.
	That's the home of chicken fried steak.
	No, I have not.
	Oh.
	It's a must.
	In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley, I'm John C. Dvorak.
	And we'll talk to you again on Thursday right here on No Agenda.
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