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474: Mongolian Hat
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Everyone's now putting their kids in front of cameras and microphones and like getting them to say things like this.
Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak.
It's Sunday, December 30th, 2012.
Time for your Gitmo Nation media assassination episode 474.
This is No Agenda.
Living out the last days of the year in the lowlands of Gitmo Nation.
Day 24, living in exile in Amsterdam.
In the morning, everybody.
I'm Adam Curry.
And back in northern Silicon Valley, south of northern northern Silicon Valley, I'm John C. Dvorak.
Morning.
Fell over my name.
Well, come on!
All those things like, I'm John C! Like, what are you?
Like you're a basketball...
Like we're announcing you onto the basketball court?
John C! DeMora!
Please.
What is this?
You stepped all...
You didn't even wait.
You didn't even get to the duh.
No, but you went...
Because you never do a long C. Never ever.
You don't do a John C. See, this is how robotic we've become on this show.
John C. Click.
Click.
Now, I'm trying to anticipate, because we have a delay and all that stuff, you know, I'm trying to anticipate your C. So you're hitting this thing on the letter, on C. On C, yeah, yeah, exactly.
Dvorak.
John is like Will Chamberlain!
John C. We rebound to Vorak!
Yeah, it's kind of like that.
Well, it's been a weird day.
Sad day.
Sad day today, John.
As one of my friends died.
No, that's not good.
An old friend, a new friend, a young friend?
How old was he?
Adam Langebert, 63.
That's very young to die.
He was the news guy that I worked with for a couple of years, including the broadcast from Iraq in 2004.
And he was kind of like a buzzkill, actually.
He was a very, very funny guy.
Dry humor.
And I knew he had cancer like a year ago, and then he actually kicked it, and we had a little bit of contact.
But I had no idea he'd come back, and all of a sudden it's just like, oh, he died.
I was like, okay.
So I was like, 63, man.
That's not that much older than I am.
You know?
It's like 16 years older.
That's a bummer.
It's random.
Yeah, I guess so.
And not to mention that I thought you were dead the other day.
That was a shock.
And why would you think that?
I'm just going to send you a long text message, and so I wanted to see if you were awake.
So I sent you a message, are you around?
Figured you might be in bed, and I'm not going to sit there typing away to oblivion.
Hey, hold on, don't get angry.
And so I type away, so you panic.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
And you call my wife.
Can I tell the story?
No, that's not how it went.
You sent a text message.
No, that's not how it went.
You sent a text message, and it was like quarter to twelve, and I'm on my third Manhattan.
We're about to go home with some friends.
We're hanging out.
That's over my limit, by the way, as you know.
You know that that's more than I can handle.
And I get this text message.
Are you around?
That is the most uncharacteristic thing I've ever received from you.
Ever.
Ever.
Are you still there?
Yeah, I thought I lost you.
Did you just die on me?
Hello?
Hello, Jean?
Jean!
Jean, come back, Jean!
Oh my god.
Yeah, I'll restart mumble.
See, this is what I mean.
I only have to talk about it and the guy keels over.
Oh, crap.
Hold on, let's see what happened to him.
Are you there?
Yeah, I'm here.
Well, all of a sudden you were gone.
Were you still hearing me?
No, I was going to say, okay, well, here's where you said the thing, and I said, did you text me back?
Yes, I'm here.
No, you called my wife thinking...
No, I did not.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Be quiet now.
Let me finish the story.
You're just interjecting.
This is my story.
So I, in my phone, it's like, so there's, are you around?
This is nothing, this is not John C. Dvorak at all.
So I'm like, okay, something is wrong, he's going to tell me he's ill, or he doesn't want to do the show anymore, or, you know, like some family meeting.
How do you jump to these conclusions?
Because it was so uncharacteristic.
And, excuse me, I've been living in exile in a shoebox, and, you know, it's weird.
Life is a little weird right now.
And so then I'm like, I press call.
I press...
Are you quite done?
Go on.
I press call, calling the number that texted me.
And then a woman answers.
So when I receive a text message, and I call the message, the number that sent me the text message, I'm expecting to get your phone.
Okay?
Hold on a second.
So basically, this all happened because you violated the rules of texting.
What do you mean violated?
This was an emergency.
I'm like, something's wrong.
You didn't need to just say...
In fact, I texted back and said, yes, what's up?
And then you didn't call.
And so I waited for like 10 minutes, and that's when I called the number.
So what did I violate?
You're never supposed to go outside the texting world when you're texting.
You don't start calling and then texting and calling.
I never got this text that you just said.
Well, I sent it.
I sent a text message back.
I'm going to go check.
This is on Google.
No, no.
You're Mr.
Consistency with all your communications.
You've got 8 million phone numbers.
So anyway, I hit call after I get no reply to this.
And then a woman answers and I say, hello?
And she says, hello?
And she sounds young, by the way.
She sounds young.
And in my mind, I'm like, she sounds young, blonde with short hair.
I don't know why.
I'm just telling you the truth.
And then I'm like, uh, hello?
And then she says, hello?
I said, is John there?
She says, I'm going to have to take a message.
I'm like, well, this is Adam.
She says, oh, Adam, it's Mimi.
So then, you know, we get to talking and we figure out what this is all about.
But I swear to God, John, I thought there was a Russian hooker and you had had a heart attack on top of her.
This is This is the only thing I could think of.
This is what comes to your mind when I send a simple text, are you around?
Holy mackerel, you are crazy.
I've got to get out of here.
I need to get out of this country.
You're totally...
I'm telling you.
You're going nuts over there.
Yes, yes, it's true.
It's true.
Anyway, that was very funny, by the way.
Did you tell Mimi that I thought she was a Russian hooker?
I don't remember telling her that.
But whatever the case is, she'd think it was a compliment.
Anyway, so then today...
Yes, you've got to get out of there.
Yeah, then my pal dies.
It's just weird.
When you go into certain situations with people, and one of them...
The guy was on my show for like two years on the radio.
But we were in Iraq for like a week, and you really bond with all the guys.
You can't explain that.
I've also bonded with a lot of the Marines who I was with at the time.
That's a lifelong thing.
And of course, Ms.
Mickey's like, well, it's only going to be like this from now on.
You know that, don't you?
You realize it, don't you?
Oh, just more people are going to die.
I'm like, what?
Well, that's helpful.
Well, she did say first, do you want a hug?
I mean, she said that first.
Well, that's nice.
She's like, gives you a hug and then drops that bomb.
This is what it's going to be.
Everyone's going to be dropping dead.
This is what it's going to be from now on.
Get older, you die.
I don't need this.
I do not need this at all.
Anyway, people have been emailing a lot and saying, oh my gosh, the shows are so good that you're in Amsterdam.
And I'm trying to think, what is really different?
Because I'm not leaving the house.
I'm not walking the streets of Amsterdam.
I'm just getting drunk.
At night, there's nothing, you know, it's like, I don't know if it's day or night here, it's always gray.
And the only thing I can come up with is that I'm in a different time zone, so when I'm going through, you know, like the Noagen, the news network, and my RSS feeds, I'm getting different feeds because of the different time zone.
There is factually nothing different than that.
And I'm thinking, if we ever do get back, I'm going to try this as an experiment for a couple weeks.
I'll just live on the other side of the clock.
Here's a better experiment as an A-B test.
Never say you're back.
Just bitch about Amsterdam.
It sucks here.
It's cold.
Who was that that sent a picture of the one of me outside by the trash cans?
And he said, this is fake.
You're on a tropical island.
Yeah, it was funny.
Oh, man.
Oh, man.
Yeah.
Oh.
Anyway, you can cross one off of the red book.
It was only Thursday that I said, I bet you that if we wanted...
With our vast network that is the No Agenda News, the No Agenda producers and listeners, that I could get a Mongolian hat with a picture of the Mongolian dude whose head it was looking really sad.
Well, let me tell you, Dr.
Peter has done it for us.
He has the picture of the Mongolian dude looking really sad and he's ready to send the hat wherever we want to receive it.
Are we powerful or what?
Yeah, if you call that power.
Where's our Learjet?
That's about the extent of our power.
But that's it.
Yeah, we can get a Mongolian hat with a picture of some poor schlub who you stole the hat from.
That's right, ladies and gentlemen.
The best podcast ever.
Don't let anyone tell you any different...
I can't look at what a Mongolian hat looks like.
Actually, I don't think a Ford...
No, I think he copied you on the link to what the hat looks like.
Yeah.
It's one of those furry, fuzzy things.
There's a bunch of them.
There's ones with a pointy top.
There's one that's all fur with a tail.
Well, I'd have to look at it.
Oh, I know which one you're talking about.
You're talking about it's got a rim of fur and then it's leather in the middle.
Right.
Exactly.
That's the one.
That's your – That's a gorgeous hat.
It's a beautiful hat.
Yeah, you'd look like a complete – Douche.
You'd look great in Amsterdam wearing that.
Yeah.
With a big target on my back.
And by the way, it will keep you very warm.
Yeah, for sure.
I used to wear a bearskin cap hat.
And I'd wear...
No, beaver.
A beaver hat.
And I'd...
You just start sweating.
You can sit down naked.
Yeah, and you'd be sweating.
And do the podcast, you'd be sweating because so much heat comes off.
Why did you just give me the visual of you naked with a beaver hat on doing the show?
Please don't do that.
Good.
Think about that in your dreams.
Please don't do that to me again.
There has been a lot of really great response to the previous episode.
I got a lot of comments on the financial thing we were talking about, about this all-pin, no-cash, about the difference between the American magnetic stripe swipe cards and the smart cards here in Europe, except for Germany.
Did you get the picture that I sent you of the shop here that says, no-cash, all-pin?
I emailed it to you.
You got that?
Okay.
I got a note from someone, too, and I don't know if it's the same note you're going to read.
From Simon?
I don't know, Ricky.
I have to look at the note to see what it's from.
Let me find the note, and you can...
Let me tell you what.
So Simon works for...
He doesn't want me to disclose exactly, but he works for a company in the UK where, and he's of course either a sysadmin or developer, or I think he's in charge of all the technology that goes on with this particular corporation.
Okay, mine's from Mike Allen, so I'll read mine after you're done.
Okay, so he's in charge of all the processing for this company.
He says the reason why Europe has moved towards this system and why America will most definitely be moving towards it is because you choose your PIN number When you get this card, in fact, you go into a special little booth and then you choose your PIN number.
It's programmed onto the chip.
Ergo, the responsibility is entirely yours.
And if something goes wrong, if there is a purchase made with your card, it is no longer the bank's responsibility.
The bank has no liability for fraudulent charges.
And this is why it's so important.
So it either shifts it towards the...
In some cases, the merchant, if it's an online, I think it's the 3D secure card or whatever it's called.
But basically, the whole idea is to move all of the liability and responsibility onto the citizen, ultimately.
But already here in Europe, the bank says, hey, look, someone has your PIN code.
It's your job to keep that safe, not our problem.
Shut up, slave.
That's the note that I got from Simon.
What did you get?
Okay, well, let me just analyze what Simon said first.
Mine's a little bit different and longer.
But here's what's been going on.
Obviously, you can charge 18% on these cars because it's to cover the amount of fraud that goes on.
Because there's so much fraud with these cars.
It's ridiculous.
With the regular cars.
With our cars.
With the magnetic strength cars.
Yeah, right, right.
And you're only liable for the first $50, so you don't have to.
But they keep trying to sell you this insurance policy, which is another scam.
Let's buy the insurance.
Well, no one's buying the insurance who's got a brain.
So they say, okay, well, we're going to have to find some other way to screw our customers because we're the banks and the customers need to be screwed by us.
And so they decided to dream up this other scheme, which is more secure, and then now they have to push the responsibility not on their employees, Ridiculous, you know, giving away cars and throwing them in the mail and doing all this crazy stuff they do, and then make it the responsibility of the customer, and then now they can both do two things.
One, they won't have the fraud, so that 18% interest rate is great.
They get to keep it all, because they're not going to change that, because nobody puts two and two together.
And two, they get to sell the insurance, so they get to gouge you for two things.
This is a classic banker scam.
Fantastic.
I love it.
I'm getting myself back really loud now.
Did you change something?
Did you move?
No, I didn't do anything.
Put the beaver hat back on, then.
Let me take off my clothes.
No!
Adam did not give the correct picture about using American cards in Europe and perhaps causing confusion among the listeners to the best podcast in the world.
Once again, Adam is a douche.
Adam is wrong, doesn't know what he's talking about.
Okay, right.
Just want to make sure we set that up.
Okay.
Under European law, the retail is liable for any fraud where they don't check photo identity of a card user.
This is kind of beating around the same bush, but he's not doing the same thing.
There's no analysis.
Assuming the user has the EMV Euro card master.
By the way, Citibank has these cards.
Yeah, they're called World Elite, which I think is hilarious.
Yes, it's very funny.
World elite card.
I know, I saw that.
We saw the same note.
World elite.
I need that.
The liability shifts from using the bank law, leaving the retailer without risk.
Maybe Adam has come across some retailers in the Netherlands who don't understand the legal requirements.
not to take non-EMV cars, but it's the same everywhere, including Germany under European federal law.
One often sees Asians and Middle Easterners with EMV cars issued by their banks.
So the practice is spreading outside of Europe, like the GSM mobile phone.
If you want to go to the Doyen restaurant, But anyway, what else did he say?
Card fraud has greatly reduced as a result.
There we go.
That's what the whole thing is.
Well, it's not about reducing the fraud.
It's not about reducing the fraud.
It's about shifting the responsibility onto the customer.
So that it's your problem.
Because, you know, we have a great bank.
We have a mechanics bank.
And, you know, remember the last Hot Pockets tour?
Maybe the one before.
So we're in God knows where we were.
And all of a sudden we get like, you know, $400 withdrawn in Los Angeles.
And the bank goes, oh, okay.
You know, hey, no problem.
That's not you.
We'll take care of it.
You know, anything.
Anything immediately they take.
In fact, even when Mickey paid a fine, In Los Angeles, and they double-charged her card, they said, okay, we'll just credit you half the fine or one times the fine, and we'll take it up with them.
Really, really good.
But that is just kind of over here.
Here, once you've authenticated, that's it.
You're done.
It's your responsibility.
No one's going to help you get it back.
Yeah, if you get double-charged, too bad.
Too bad.
Pound it.
Pound it, baby.
We don't have time for you, slime balls.
Shut up!
No, we have one of the last real banks.
Yeah, we do.
We do.
Even though there's still a bank.
Then he has this little comment as a PS. Adam mentioned that he still has a Dutch bank account.
And he wants to know, and this is a question that doesn't ask Adam.
Why don't you use that account?
Hello?
I lost you.
Is this what it's going to be today?
Is this what it is?
Hello?
Hello?
Ah, man, that's annoying.
Particularly because I gotta reach over to get to that computer.
What is going on here?
Come on.
Hello?
Now he's really gone.
Okay.
Let's wait for him to log back in.
I'm telling you, I'm thinking...
You there?
Yeah, I just came.
I did the same.
This is crazy.
Okay, anyway, so ask Adam.
Adam has a Dutch bank account, yes.
Yes, there are no bank charges in the Eurozone for payments to other Eurozone bank accounts, other than, say, a 20-cent debit fee.
Nothing if you have free banking.
At your end, you wouldn't have to pay the 5%, and the donor would just go to their PC and put in Adam's IBAN amount and approve the transaction, and the job is done.
There is space for messages to the beneficiary, too.
I can't use PayPal because PayPal won't accept my platinum Visa card, but I would have no problem with a bank payment.
Adam could see the incoming payments if he signed up for e-banking.
Even while his wife is in captivity in her own country.
More I-bands.
More on iBands, there's a Wikipedia article called International Bank.
If we start sending all these transactions back to the U.S., then this account is going to get closed because I've been using it as an American citizen.
They have to report that.
My account is over.
Any day now, they're going to be like, hey, man, we don't want to do all this paperwork, so we're going to close your account.
That's exactly what they say.
That's how they sound when they say it, too.
So we did something else that...
I'm just going to get off my chest here.
There's a very, very small movie theater right around the corner.
They have four screens, and it's literally like someone's extra bedroom.
So maybe each theater has...
I'm just going to guess...
Maybe 50 seats.
And maybe 70, 75.
And so we go to see Argo.
And of course, when this whole Benghazi thing came down, which we knew was a complete con job, it was guys hired in Tunisia to go and kidnap the ambassador, and then it went wrong, and a couple guys died, including the ambassador, and that screwed everything over.
So we knew that Argo came out at the same time, which has a very similar theme.
It was, in fact, the whole idea was to make President Obama look like a hero, very much like what eventually happened with Reagan when he got all the hostages back.
There was a little thing called Iran-Contra involved, and there were some other shenanigans going on.
So I'm kind of expecting this movie, if you've not seen it with Ben Affleck, to be kind of in line.
And so I'm watching this thing, and it's based on a true story.
And it ends, and I'm like, okay, well, gee, that was a nice CIA movie.
Have you seen the movie, John Argo?
No, I wasn't planning to see it.
Oh, you might want to see it now because...
So I'm the guy that sits there and I always want to see the credits because I want to see, you know, who's really...
I want to see the producers, I want to see who paid for it, and it's all on the credits.
You can't really...
I guess you could probably get it off of IMDB maybe, but to see it in the theater is important.
So the lights are even on at this point because no one sits around for the credits apparently in Holland.
And Ms.
Mickey and I are staying there.
And we're just waiting and we're waiting.
And then the first thing that comes by is Central Intelligence Agency did not approve the use of their logo or anything.
I'm like, wow, okay, so the CIA clearly wasn't involved.
Then all of a sudden, a voiceover comes on, which is Carter.
And whether it's him or it sounds like him, and so I don't know if it was a voice artist or if it really was him, And it's basically Carter taking credit for getting these six hostages back.
And of course we know that what really happened is, yeah, Canada got the credit, but these six hostages came back with the real Ben Affleck from the story.
But then, you know, a couple guys died.
They tried to go and get the rest of the hostages.
That all became a fiasco.
Then, of course, Reagan won the presidency, and then he brings them all back, and he's the super-duper hero.
But the way it was played, it was like, oh, my God, they're giving Carter credit for bringing back the hostages, kind of rubbing over the whole, you know, don't worry about the other ones and all that.
There's no mention of all the stuff that went wrong.
And then it says special thanks to the first name on the list.
Who do you think that is?
If you think State Department, you think they made this movie, they did it in concert, you know, to kind of mind control people into getting ready for the whole Chris Stevens kidnapping and the president would look great when he, you know, we had like a Ben Affleck go in, which of course would be Obama, you know, because, you know, Navy SEALs didn't kill Osama Bin Laden, Obama did.
Well, kind of fake killed, whatever.
So if you think State Department, if you think this movie is completely set up to be a part of this whole ruse, who would the first name be on the special thanks to?
Well, I mean...
It's a trick question, obviously.
Well, it wouldn't be Hillary.
Or would it?
Huma Abedin.
Oh.
That is a trick question.
She's listed?
She's the first one!
Special thanks!
Like, okay.
So this was...
Yeah, this is...
Yeah, go ahead.
That's amazing.
That's a good catch, by the way.
Good for you.
So the whole movie is...
It really is true.
It was a whole State Department movie, and it was really set up to be a part of this whole psychological operation.
So no wonder Hillary was incensed when it went wrong.
She's like, wait a minute.
I financed this movie!
I got it all set up, and then the Tunisian guys screw it up.
And you guys screw it up.
Screw it up.
Screw it up, literally.
So I just thought that was...
She was so mad.
It was amazing.
That was the giveaway that the thing was a scam.
Yeah, yeah.
She was very pissed off.
Very pissed off.
Not only that, but she ended up getting a guy killed.
Yeah.
Then there's that, yeah.
Minor detail.
Minor detail.
Well, you know, collateral damage, my friend.
Collateral damage.
Can you just turn your mic like three degrees or something?
It's just, for some reason, it's just like slapping back.
Now I'm booming.
Yeah, you're booming?
Yeah, this is better now.
Am I okay now?
Yeah, you're fine.
Now you don't hear me at all?
No, I hear you.
Unfortunately.
Is this better?
It's not about you.
It's about me hearing myself.
I don't want to hear myself coming through your microphone.
Oh, it was fine a minute ago.
I can move the mic.
Whatever you did just a second ago was fine.
Now it's sucking again.
Okay, hold on.
Let me move it back.
Is that better?
Let me see.
What?
Sorry.
What was that?
You know, I don't know if it's a good practice, but everyone's now putting their kids in front of cameras and microphones and getting them to say things like this.
Doofbag!
That's a good practice.
I don't know if this is really good.
We could.
You're going to have to be a whole generation.
A whole generation of kids who talk about douchebags and don't eat me Hillary Clinton.
It's just not going to be good.
I should have played that by the way.
Don't eat me Hillary Clinton!
A classic.
Oh my goodness.
Anyway, in the morning to you, Shittison Dvorak.
I think we're going to be seen as a corrupting influence.
In the morning to you, Adam Curry.
In the morning to all ships at sea, although our ship at sea seems to have been moved.
Also in the morning to boots on the ground and feet in the air, subs in the water, and all the dames and knights out there.
Yes, and also our artists who are always contributing to the art generator, noagendaartgenerator.com.
Thank you, Creepy Uncle, for the art that we used on episode 473.
Today is 474.
Show Notes at 474.nashownotes.com.
And in the morning to all the human resources there in the chat room, noagendachat.net, noagendastream.com.
Always nice to see you all charged up and ready to go, depleting your $9.1 million worth of value.
It's funny, I've gotten like four people in the past week who have asked me for a link about that.
It's actually the EPA who values a life, an American citizen is worth $9.1 million worth.
And four people asked me about that this week alone.
I don't know what's going on.
Is that really true?
Well, yeah.
We can't keep track of this stuff ourselves.
I don't know.
It is true.
Well, it's kind of cool.
You can just use the search.nashownotes.com and it usually shows up.
It's actually kind of cool that way.
So one of the things, we maybe should thank a few executive producers before we start actually doing anything important.
Okay.
Of course, you know, it's funny because I say that, and just as I close...
Just as you close the spreadsheet?
Very good.
Yeah, but you know, the funny thing is, the great thing about computers is that things can reopen rather quickly, especially if you're running a fast machine.
Okay.
All right, so here's what we got.
We have a bunch of people that came in, because we only have one day left before we stop giving away rings.
Right.
For the knighthoods, and everyone gets a pin, which I think is better, to be honest about it, than the rings.
Well, but a lot of people also have been saving up, wanted to just repeat it.
There are a bunch of people that are on a layaway plan that we're putting the rings aside for.
And other people have requested a...
To do a put aside because they're on their way.
And so we've done that.
Right.
But we're going to be running out of sizes shortly.
Doug Owens comes in from...
He's overseas in the Army, I guess.
It's kind of interesting.
Wow.
With $1,230.12 the instant night.
And he says, if I can get this whole note open.
He's a ships at sea?
No.
He's a ships at sea guy.
Not at sea, but in the sand.
Read the note.
Read the whole note.
I have in the morning and end of the year to you, Doug here from St.
Petersburg, Florida in Afghanistan by way of Naples, Italy.
Now Sir Doug the sailor to you, not at sea but in the sand.
So I guess he's a marine then.
I'm just guessing.
But he's in Afghanistan.
He wouldn't call himself a sailor if he was a marine.
If he has humor.
Of course he does.
Maybe.
Of course he does.
I loved hearing that.
Wait a minute, John.
You're telling me the guys in the Navy say, I'm a sailor, man.
Really?
Does anyone in the armed forces use that term, sailor, for themselves?
I don't know.
No, of course not.
All the hookers say, hey, sailor.
Hey, sailor.
He says he loved hearing that he shouldn't listen to No Agenda in Afghanistan, as I sat listening in Afghanistan.
Now, I don't know who told him this.
I didn't say that.
No, I think somebody over there did.
He says, I've almost been listening for a year and would have donated earlier, but Ron Paul was calling, not only for my vote, but for my money.
He got both for me, and all I got was this shitty deployment.
Alright.
It also gave me a chance to vote for Gary Johnson.
That didn't work either.
Isn't democracy great?
De-douche me if you must, but I don't know if it will help with the smell.
I like the $1 an hour formula.
It makes me good for a long enough time to scale my way back after falling over this cliff.
I would like to call out Richie.
Garrido and the neocon statist popper as douchebag.
Not only for not giving money, but also for not listening.
I'm tired of hitting them in the mouth.
There's blood on my hands.
Maybe it's from Adabambo.
The most liberty-minded black guy I know.
Okay.
I don't know who that is.
Adam, if I weren't in AFG, I'd offer you to stay at my house in Bella Napoli.
Napoli.
Really?
Bella Napoli, you're right.
Really?
To help you save a few dollars, but my wife didn't sound very thrilled when I mentioned it.
We do need a house sitter starting at the end of January if you care to watch my dog.
This can be for as long as you need, since your belongings sound like they may be on the curb pretty soon.
Here's your chance to find your way down to Southern Europe to get some of your tax dollars back.
This could work towards the wife's damehood.
No.
She needs a hit in the mouth, too, since I haven't been there to do it.
I have no idea what my ring size is, so please wait patiently.
Okay, well, as long as it's not nine and a half.
Anyway, so he needs a...
Don't eat me, Hillary.
Shut up, slave in Italian.
Followed with two shots of the head, karma.
Wow.
Okay.
So, shut up, slave.
No, it's shut up.
Italian?
Okay, don't eat me.
I got it.
Don't eat me, Hillary Clinton!
Shut up, slave!
You've got karma.
Alright, alright.
I got it.
I got you, man.
And yeah, let's keep our options open for the end of January.
A house sitting in Bella, Napoli.
Or Napoli, as John would call it.
Napoli.
Napoli.
It's Napoleon.
Right.
Thomas Ward in Millions Point, Sydney, New South Wales, 1,000 instantite.
Gentlemen, only been listening for a few months.
Loved the show.
Realized just how much I loved it when a month ago, while listening to John on one of his justified rants after a pretty poor round of contributions, I blame the listeners.
Not only do you have a model, a different revenue model, but you rightfully give your listeners a hard time, and we still pay up.
I love it.
Listening to YouTube has been fantastic.
It makes me feel a hell of a lot better about being myself comparatively, about being myself comparatively that is, and while people's opinions and my opinions have not exactly improved, at least they now just blame my rants on YouTube.
Oh, wait a minute.
So wait a minute.
So when he says something weird in brackets, in quotes, in parens, then they just say, oh...
That's that Korean Dvorak talking again.
Exactly.
Okay.
Well, I mean, I do this.
I think everybody does it.
I do it with a friend of mine who just obviously listens to Michael Savage all the time.
And he just mouths it.
This is Michael Savage talking, not you.
So we've gotten to that level, apparently.
Unfortunately, we haven't gotten to his salary level, but otherwise...
No, we haven't gotten to the millions of dollars those guys make.
The Rush Limbaugh, $400 million.
I've always been a contrarian, Ward goes on.
But as I say now, at least as my arguments are so peppered with your thoughts, they just blame you.
I really love propagating the formula.
I'm not sure if this is typical, but I tend to get two responses after they listen to you.
They either love it or they hate it.
So far, 10 to 1.
Well, that is ten love, one hate.
Ten love, one hate?
Really?
Wow.
I don't think so.
I think he's confused.
I think it's really...
The numbers I've been getting are mostly half and half.
No, I get to pretty much hate it.
Well, that's just you.
Yeah.
I am contemplating using this as a method of determining whether I continue to socialize with them.
Aha!
I always say just preach to the choir.
This is a different decision as some of the haters are very pretty.
How can this be?
These poor women are robots.
Pretty haters?
Pretty haters.
I'm so pretty, but I hate the way they're free thinkers.
They actually think for themselves.
Conspiracy theorists.
I'm just, you know, as I say, I've loved listening to the two of you.
I've always believed I had a healthy skepticism for most things.
And listening to you just cultivates the skepticism.
And we'll be glad to hear that skepticism is also towards you, too, I guess.
So, Tom.
Could have summarized better.
Let me just say to Tom, who will be Sir Thomas later today, thank you very much, first of all, for that.
I love what he says here.
And this is a continuing theme, that it is good for your soul.
So if you found this program, this is what you're feeling.
You found this program.
You know that you're being bullcrapped one way or the other.
You feel kind of weird about things that are going on, about the zombie-like way in which most people react.
And then now all of a sudden you find this community, which is not just us two.
You know, there's art, there's music, there's all kinds of things underneath these layers of this community.
And it turns out there's a lot of people like you.
And I should mention, in many ways we're just a conduit.
Yeah.
Whatever that means, yeah.
No, people send us stories that, oh, then we put two and two together.
Oh, yeah.
Well, that's why we have producers.
That's why listeners are producers.
Absolutely.
Yeah, yeah.
If it wasn't for the listeners, this show would suck.
Well, yeah.
But it doesn't suck because we have great listeners.
Producers.
Producers.
Yeah, we have great listeners and producers, but producers mostly, the ones who actually get involved.
Patrick Vaughn in Traverse City, Michigan, 834.7, recently passed my Red Hat Certified Engineer exam with a score of 583 out of 600 and decided to congratulate myself by donating to the No Agenda show, so I cashed in some vacation time.
Hopefully this helps make Amsterdam bearable for Adam and Mickey and should finish out my knighthood.
And he needs karma.
Wow.
Yeah, I'm happy to give you that karma.
Thank you.
Congratulations, by the way.
You've got karma.
With your official certification, and you shall be an official sir later on.
We have a really long list of knights, which is great.
Yeah, this is the end of the year.
Yes, end of the year.
This is it.
Massive knighthood.
We're done after this, yeah.
We're done with the 2012 knights, absolutely.
Donald Filipchuk in Calgary, Alberta.
Where all the money comes from?
8-19-66.
Enclosed, please find my donation, nighthood donation.
Here's the best podcast in the universe.
Give me a Hey Citizen, an original you will obey, a douchebag karma.
Thanks, Sir Donald, to you.
Okay, so Hey Citizen, original obey, and then a what?
Douchebag karma.
Really?
Okay.
Hey Citizen.
Douchebags.
Odd.
Karma.
Very odd.
Odd.
Very odd.
But he's from Calgary, what do you expect?
Yeah, the stampede.
Home of the Stampede.
Go check the Stampede.
I want to go.
Scott William in Ann Arbor, Michigan, 790-92.
Dear Jeb and Alan, I'm so glad the path to no agenda nighthood doesn't involve dressing up in dark cloaks, laying in a coffin, confessing my secret, my secret sexy woes to some long, dong, silver mofo, only to emerge as my new self into a wanton orgy of elites while watching them munch on the sweetbreads of some newborn baby.
Oh, he must be talking about the...
What's that?
Bones Club or whatever the hell they call it?
Skull and Bones.
Yeah, Skull and Bones.
Instead, it involves giving with joy and that equals loving.
For 33 years, I've been depleting my human resource value of $9.2 million, and even though I'm just an ordinary folk getting by on an hourly wage job, I've managed to save up $790.92 this year, so I'm giving it all to you for the completion of a knighthood.
And like any good shittison living out the American dream, I happen to be a penny short.
May I humbly request a persistent Jet Contraille Science 2 to the head karma with the penny.
Okay, I'll do the penny again if I can fit it all in here.
Hold on a second.
Science 2 to the head karma.
Okay.
Contraille Science!
You've got karma.
Hey, hey, hey, hey.
Pretty good.
Pretty good, I say.
So, by the way, he uses the word folks.
I have a clip.
I have a clip, too.
But let's get through this first, and then we'll talk about folks.
Oh, that's interesting.
You have the same clip, I bet.
Tim in Calgary.
Another Calgaryen.
In Alberta, Calgarian, 73711.
No name, please, just Tim.
He gets his knighthood.
De-douching karma would be great.
And then he's got some other stuff.
Thank you, Tim.
You've been de-douched.
You've got...
And you shall be knighted today, Tim.
Lovely, thank you.
A lot of long notes.
Tim, thanks for the short note.
Okay.
Do you get the beginning of this one, or does it just start suggested?
I have, Dear Alan and Jeb, my wife Christina suggested the douchebag button.
Too bad that never took off, or else my Christmas list would have been easily taken care of.
The other day I discovered that 176 children have been killed by drones in Pakistan alone since 2004, and he has a source listed, which we'll put in the show notes.
If my math is right, that's one Sandy Hook per year for the past eight years, and no one cared.
Granted, I'm looking at a compromise.
Hold on, hold on, hold on a second.
I think we cared.
I think we actually have killlist.curry.com.
I think we've been tracking it.
Yes, and we do care.
It's ridiculous.
The one question, especially with the crocodile tears of Obama, the one question, let me be clear, I would not have sought out this information if not for the best podcast in the universe, so I thought it was time to complete my knighthood accounting at the end.
I commute to Gitmo Nation Hot Dog, New York City Nuts, every day, and potentially, you can imagine somebody listening to this show and figuring out what the hell are these types of New York City Nuts?
What are these guys as maniacs?
We're going to lose a lot of newbies.
I'm potentially subject to the search by the Port Authority Police and the armed National Guard on every trip.
Yeah, that's right.
What?
Yeah, that's when you take the PATH train into New York City.
They have the National Guard.
We've talked about this.
This has been going on for years.
They have the National Guard standing there to pull you aside and frisk you.
Oh, yeah, it's Gitmo Nation hot dog.
Brother.
New York City nuts.
In the meantime, please send karma to my wife Christina, Alan, Jeb, Mary, and all the No Agenda producers everywhere.
If you can throw in a yay, that would be great.
Oh, hold on a second.
I'm sorry.
I'll get that going.
I'll find a yay.
You've got karma.
And that was a $600 winner.
Yay!
I.J. Herka in Bargo, New South Wales.
Herka is phonetically pronounced Her-car.
My location is actually Sydney, despite whatever PayPal tells you.
Donating to get me closer to the night who had decided at the end of the year and because no agendas kept me sane during the long commutes during the holiday season, I'd love a karma shot for the new year.
Absolutely.
It's those commuters.
You've got karma.
Which is pretty much 90% of the audience.
Yeah, pretty much.
It's a good show for them.
Thomas Badrick, Nutley, New Jersey, 38286.
I couldn't think of a better way to spend my crappy holiday bonus than to give a hefty chunk to the best podcast in the universe and at the same time complete my knighthood.
In celebration, I'd like to hear the fiscal cliff followed by the little girl, yay.
Here's to being broke together in the new year.
Does he want a karma with that or is it just fiscal cliff?
I would think so.
You've got karma.
Yay!
Cloud Sigma AG in Zurich, 33333.
Christmas greetings from Cloud Sigma to all the cizadmins and IT slaves of the world.
Hey, now.
Bernie.
Who run the world, by the way, and are the only saviors?
Thank you.
Bernie Adama.
Atima.
Hinton, Iowa, 333.
In the morning, John and Adam, my donation at 333 completes the knighthood.
Plus $100 adds $33 to the new pin and shipping, so he's on for the pin.
Perfect.
Now we've got to keep track of that.
Wait a minute.
Let me just hear how you did that.
Wait a minute.
Let me just hear how you did that.
So wait a minute.
People love us so much.
They're like, hey man, here's the money for the shipping of the pin.
And what's John's response?
Nice.
Nice.
It's part of the format.
Here's what the problem is.
It's part of the format.
I think it's great that this idea works, but It's like I just know there's going to be a bunch.
I sent 33 in and I never heard from you.
We won't be reading these.
We're going to have to do something on the database to make sure we pull these out and don't miss anybody.
We're going to list all the nice and then we're going to have a checklist.
That's what I'll do.
I'll make a big print of all the nice.
There's lots of them.
Okay, I'll deal with it.
Did you give a shout-out to us?
Wait a minute.
I just want this codified.
John Jeb C. Dvorak just said, I'll deal with it.
Perfect.
Yeah.
Got it.
I'll deal with it.
Got it.
You can't deal with it where you are.
That's 50 bucks to ship a pin.
I can't deal with anything right now.
I'm at the edge of my rope.
He needs a shout-out.
John and David.
Hey!
David's wife, Rose.
My girlfriend, Janet.
And to Daylight Donuts in Sioux City.
Hope Adam and Mickey return home soon.
God's blessing to you and all the listeners of the best podcasts in the universe.
And maybe an Atlas Shrugged, if you have time.
Atlas Shrugged.
By Ayn Rand.
Steven Sorrell in Amarillo, Texas.
Q05. Right down the road.
Jennifer and...
From Jennifer and Steven.
My name is for now Stephan.
Can I get a Don't Eat Me Hillary Clinton karma for our growing human resource?
Thanks for the show.
You guys are great.
Good luck getting back to the U.S. and don't get droned over there.
Don't eat me Hillary Clinton!
There you go.
Do you think the human resource is growing internally or is already in the world?
I don't know.
It doesn't make it clear.
Oh, okay.
Well, either way.
I got a note from Severo here, and he has a different name, actually, than this one here, which I can't pronounce anyway, and I'll get to it at the break.
But he gave us $200 from Sao Paulo, and he's donating for the first time.
There's listeners that haven't.
That can't have enough John and Adam.
I strongly recommend that you listen to old episodes.
It's amazingly entertaining to understand how the show evolved and find out how so many expressions were created.
You have to listen for a long time.
We're almost at 500 shows and they're two hours average each.
No agenda.
That's a thousand hours of programming that we've done for the public.
No Agenda really is the best information and entertainment product I have access to.
Thank you guys for doing this, even during the holidays.
We're counting on you two times a week.
This donation is celebrating the arrival of my first human resource, Gabrielle.
Please de-douche me and give me a little girl a hot MILF karma for the brand new mom, Christina.
I don't think we have a little girl hot milf.
Yeah.
Oh, no, it's a little guy.
She sounds like kind of, you know, the voice.
Oh, I get what he's saying.
Okay, hold on a second.
Oh, shoot.
It's one hot milf, baby.
I think what you just did was better, actually.
So it's a de-douche me.
Okay.
You've been de-douched.
That's one hot milf, baby.
You've got karma.
All right.
This took me a little work.
Matthew DeBile or DeBeal.
DeBeal.
DeBeal.
I don't know.
Can you pronounce it?
Well, DeBeal, I think it would be.
DeBeal.
It's French.
Napperville, Illinois.
Yeah, French town.
Illinois.
He's probably not French, but he's got a French name.
Yeah.
It's probably not French, or he wouldn't be donating.
Naperville, Illinois, $200.
Some I missed a chance to include a note into the note.
Give Adam a douchebag for not responding to my email below.
Oh, yeah.
I remember this one.
Yeah, sure.
Yeah, it's right.
I don't receive any emails.
I will say that Am's always responding to my emails.
So he's not really a douchebag.
I'm just joking.
He's general manager at AM Daytime Radio Station Chicago.
And since we streamed 24-7, he actually puts this on the stream.
And if we clean up, he says, our show a little bit so there's no cussing in it so the FCC won't get mad at us.
Right.
The thing I did earlier in this donation segment has to be bleeped out.
Right.
He'll put it on the air in the morning.
Oh.
In the morning.
Oh, really?
In the morning.
In the morning.
Yeah, in the morning.
Like two in the morning.
So, wait a minute.
Is he going to preempt somebody?
No, no, they have apparently free airtime, you know, stuff that they sell to advertorial or advertisements.
Yeah, they've got time and he believes, I went back and forth with Matthew, he believes that we actually qualify as a public service public affairs show.
I know, I get a kick out of that too.
It's like my mom would be so proud.
Mommy, what do you guys do?
We do public affairs programming.
Yeah.
Uh-huh.
Sure.
Wink, wink, nudge, nudge.
Anyway, she's in for $200 and give him a gratuitous karma.
Absolutely.
Looking forward to dinner, too.
You've got karma.
Matthew says...
We'll be talking.
He suggests that maybe some users could pull out some of this stuff, but...
We can minimize, but the problem is we have to have a notebook and whatever.
I want to thank all these people.
We really don't have the time, seriously.
Just post-producing the show, there's another two and a half hours that I'm working after each show.
By the time the show's done, I'm actually tired.
It's as weird as it sounds.
And quite honestly, I don't want to hear myself or you anymore at all.
So then, just the thought of having to go and listen to that crap we just did.
I believe it's doable.
Yeah.
To be a real public affairs program.
But I may have to be doing it.
We're going to do this.
I mean, we have so many listeners.
Wouldn't someone want to do that?
No.
You're right.
What am I thinking?
No, no, but people do a lot of work for us, but they don't want to kill themselves.
People always get really excited, and here's a learning moment.
No matter what the initiative is, we've had so many great initiatives.
They always start off, and people are enthusiastic, and then after like three, four weeks, it's like, eh, eh, really?
Exactly.
There's more work involved with this stuff than people realize.
It all sounds good on paper.
Yeah, and we just make it look easy.
That's our mistake.
People are like, you know, just make it easy what you do.
So I want to thank all these executive producers and associate executive producers to remind people we do have a new year coming up, and we would like...
To start off with a bang for the next show, which will be the New Year's show, and heading towards show 500, go to Dvorak.org slash NA to continue your support.
We really appreciate it.
And, Adam?
Well, I was going to mind-control you for a moment.
Dvorak.org slash NA. What?
Definitely.
Continue your support.
Actually, when we get to the segment later on, our model, our value-for-value model, is actually quite astounding to the mainstream, and I have an interesting clip about that.
In the meantime, there's always something you can do, and that is always propagate our formula.
Our formula is this.
We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
Woo!
Real. World. Order. Vol. Nation is a...
Shut up, Slade. - Hey, hey, hey, hey.
And we appreciate the propagation of said formula regardless of any monetary consideration you give the program because just trying to get people to listen is actually helping humanity, especially if it's your friends and family and you see that they're convincible, that they just need a little push just to get them over the edge because they're already kind of thinking in the right way.
And it's the strangest people.
Like I was telling you on Thursday...
When I was at Miss Mickey's extended family and there's her kind of brother and we're just talking and it turns out the guy, he's in the oil business, oil storage business.
I didn't know he's an expat, lives in Singapore.
And then all of a sudden we have a connection for life.
You'd be amazed who it is.
You would really be amazed.
And when you make that kind of connection...
It's good for the soul.
It really is nice.
So let me...
Well, we're going to talk about folks.
Something funny happened.
I think what you're referring to is the president came back from his vacation in Hawaii, which I don't think hurt him a lot because it's been crappy weather in Hawaii.
So he's like, whatever.
And he did a speech...
And which to me was the most unnecessary thing I've ever seen him do.
You know, he flies back just to say, hey, nothing new.
Well, I'm working on it.
And this is where he...
Should I just play my clip and you tell me?
It's going to be the same one.
Yeah, you should play yours.
But before you do it, let me just say a couple of things.
One, we've determined through deconstruction that the word folks, as used by Obama, is diminutive.
It's designed to...
And it's been going on for years.
We just haven't really...
We've been talking about it for a long time.
We've been talking about him saying it, but we never thought about the meaning, the larger meaning, which is the proletariat or the...
Common people.
It's literally the common people, the plebs.
The little people.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So now, for the first time that I can recall, I could be wrong, I mean, because we didn't go back and redo all his speeches, but he's now referring to Congress in the exact same way as the little people beneath him.
He's the king.
They still want to vote no and let tax hikes hit the middle class?
Where did you record this?
This is a total crap recording.
Well, then play yours.
I'm going to.
Hold on.
Seems to be a repeat pattern over and over again.
Ordinary folks, they do their jobs.
Ordinary folks!
So now you have folks in Congress, and then you have ordinary folks.
Yeah, they're the ones that aren't in Congress, but they're still low-level people.
So something funny happened with this.
So on cspan.org, or cspanvideo.org actually, you can clip a piece of a video and then it'll republish as a video.
So I do that and then I post it on my new favorite place to hang out on Google+.
Thank you very much Mike Elgin for turning me into a horrible Google Plus person.
So Google Plus is fantastic, and I'll tell you why.
So what happens is...
No, no, listen to this.
No, no, no.
You've got to understand.
I don't know how it works exactly, but everything's public, and people are following me.
Not everyone who's following me, in fact, only a minority, is in the No Agenda community.
So I post this thing, and I'm like, really, ordinary folks, really?
And this starts off a thread.
And people are commenting.
And then people come in.
If you come in and you post something kind of as a zombie, and you post that within the No Agenda community, it's kind of like kicking over a hornet's nest.
And they attack you.
And they just jump on top of you.
And so there's this guy, Wes Hirsch.
And he's like, you know, he's like, oh, you know, this is a bit bullcrap.
And, you know, the president, you know, he's, of course, he immediately, you know, he deduces that I'm a Republican.
You know, I love it when people do that.
And you say, like, hey, man, what is this president with his ordinary folks business?
Oh, well, at least he's back.
The Republicans aren't.
I'll wait for you to tell me they are.
You know, all this, like, bull crap.
I'm like, who is this guy?
And here's what I love about Google Plus.
Because people, because, you know, Google is basically the government.
And so government employees, they all have their Gmail, you know.
And it turns out this guy works for the Geospatial Intelligence Agency in Tokyo.
So he's a spook.
And he's bitching and moaning, and you go look at his Google Plus profile, and you can see, you know, it's like, guns are bad, global warming, we're all going to die, you know, we're going over the fiscal cliff, it's all the Republicans' fault, so the guy's a total zombie.
But wait, but wait, then I go look, I'm like, I want to find out more about this guy.
And he has a LinkedIn profile.
I'm like, okay.
And on his LinkedIn profile, he calls himself the Jason Bourne of Geospatial.
And this is a Department of Defense intelligence guy.
How sick is that?
Wow.
And so I confront him with it.
I'm like, you're insane.
Everything is wrong with the department.
In fact, I had some of our human resources go to my wiki page.
And if you look now at my Wikipedia page, I am the Jason Bourne of cheese.
I just really wanted to be a Jason Bourne of something.
So it's just hilarious to see how people jump on.
Of course, at the end of the thread, 150 messages later, I'm sorry, I'm actually a racist.
That's what it is.
Oh, is this guy black?
Chinese?
No, no, no.
The guy just said, well, you know, it's very typical.
You don't like what the president says.
It's probably because he has brown skin.
I'm like, okay.
You know, this is...
Yeah, that's logical.
All we needed was just, we were still waiting for the Hitler card to be played, but I didn't get that one.
So, just very, very interesting how people respond to this.
In fact, someone there in the No Agenda group says, whenever I hear the president say, folks, I always think of this musical.
Folks are dumb where I come from.
They ain't had any learning.
Still they're happy as can be.
You know what comes next?
One more time.
So, do you know what the musical is that that comes from?
Ah, no.
If I thought about it, I could come up with it, but what?
Annie, go get your gun.
Oh, Annie, go get your gun.
How twisted is that?
That is funny.
Wow.
Folks like us.
Folks like us.
Well, anyway.
Yeah.
In his clip, which my clip, I screwed it up, but my clip points out that he says the folks you elected, the Congress, the folks in the Senate, now the folks are also these...
Apparently, idiot Congress people.
They're folks now.
This is like demeaning.
You're demeaning the President.
No, he's demeaning Congress using this term as far as we're concerned.
I don't know that he knows he's doing it, but I think he just does it naturally.
I got some other comments I got from this.
One is that in Hawaii, where the President supposedly grew up, Well, where he grew up, where he smoked a lot of weed, that apparently the term folks is overused in Hawaii.
So I'll give him that.
I'll give him that.
But then to do this ordinary folks thing is a little bit beyond that.
But then he actually said...
Something else which I was...
Well, maybe you can help me deconstruct why he used this particular phrase.
If you can get a majority in the House and you can get a majority in the Senate, then we should be able to pass a bill.
So the American people are watching what we do here.
Obviously their patience is already thin.
This is deja vu all over again.
So deja vu all over again, which of course is stupid because deja vu is something happening again.
Bless you, darling.
Deja vu all over again was originally, it's a famous quote from Yogi Berra.
Who first said that, and at the time, of course, it was funny.
This is when Mickey Mantle and Roger Maris hit back-to-back home runs in, like, the 60s.
But why would he use this?
Is he not familiar with the fact that it's a Yogi Berra quote?
Or does he think it's funny?
No, I think everybody's pretty...
Well, it was done...
Yogi Berra quotes were obviously these idiotic, naturally idiotic things that he would say.
Right.
And they were all hilarious.
Casey Stengel was the progenitor of this sort of talk.
And I don't know, because it really says that I'm an idiot.
Or I'm being funny, because by referencing this deja vu all over again...
It didn't come out, it didn't sound funny.
The whole thing, the whole conversation is not funny.
So I've just...
I mean, I really believe...
That someone wrote it for him, and he doesn't even know it.
He doesn't even know what this is referencing.
I would agree with that theory.
You know who used to say this, and it used to irk me all the time?
Ron Bloom.
He'd say it all the time in meetings.
It's like deja vu all over again.
Until I finally looked it up, I'm like, why are you saying that?
It's lame.
In pitch meetings, actually.
Interesting.
Yeah.
That's a good catch.
I didn't notice it.
It's hard to listen to that guy and not kind of zone out.
Yeah.
But folks, every time he says folks, it wakes me up.
Yeah, me too.
Me too.
And it irks me.
It really, really irks me.
Folks and look.
Wow.
He's really backed off on the look.
Did you hear that?
Did you hear that explosion?
Yeah.
Seriously?
No, you didn't hear that?
You probably didn't.
They're shooting off fireworks early here.
With what?
With fireworks.
No, why?
Because in Gitmo Nation Lowlands, the last weekend of the year...
Then you're allowed to go pick up your fireworks that you buy, and everyone has just, you know, like, they spend hundreds and hundreds of euros per person on fireworks, and then on New Year's Eve, everyone burns all the crap up.
It's the stupidest tradition ever.
I hate it.
I really hate it.
I'm not a firework guy.
I mean, I like watching pretty fireworks, but this is all big exploding bombs.
You know, all week there's pictures in the newspaper of, you know, someone threw a firecracker, like an M-80, in the canal, and the duck ate it and then blew his mouth off, and they got a picture of the duck with his beak all blown off.
It's like horrible, and all night long.
Oh, no, no, no.
It's like boom, boom.
You'll hear it a couple more times before the show is over.
Just people are blowing stuff up.
And you don't even know if it's that or we had a liquidation take place not even a kilometer from here in the city where someone was gunned down, machine gunned in his car.
Yeah.
Talk about America, everybody.
You're just getting machine gunned.
And then the guys machine gunned the cops.
Machine gun.
I mean, we're not talking assault rifle.
We're talking machine gun.
In Amsterdam.
Sorry?
Yeah.
Well, I thought that they respected no guns in Europe.
Yeah, that's right.
Because we should be more like Europeans and be that way.
How can a machine gun even appear?
Well, I'm telling you.
A machine gun.
Let me read this note that we got.
From Anonymous Spook.
I just think it's funny.
So he sent in a NSA challenge coin.
It could be he or a she.
Could be a she.
Could be a she.
In fact, it's likely.
I'm pretty sure.
It reads a little more like a male, but it could be a she.
I know who Anonymous Spook is, my friend.
And it's a female?
Mm-hmm.
Okay, well, she says in one of her most recent episodes, I heard you complain about a lack of an NSA challenge coin.
Here's a 60th anniversary limited edition challenge coin direct from the Fort.
I've been a No Agenda listener for a few years and recently started working for the federal government.
I wanted to share a tip to any No Agenda listener who may be interested in a career in the intelligence community.
Okay, don't do it.
Yeah, that's tip number one.
Don't do it.
Don't do it.
Is that really what you wrote?
John and Adam may refer to the intelligence community employees as spooks.
Oh, by the way, that doesn't come from us.
That's an old term.
It's always been used.
Don't use it in the workplace.
I turned a lot of heads my first week when I used the term because apparently spook is a derogatory term for a black person.
Yeah, in the 1950s.
Yeah, really?
Okay.
Anyway, this is not a good idea to say, shut up, slave, at work.
Shut up!
Really?
I blame myself for letting that one slip.
Anyway, she would...
I'd like to call out any govy or money-grubbing contractor who listens to the show but not donating.
She wants to make sure that they're all called out, especially the government guys, as douchebags.
Douchebags!
She wishes us a happy holiday.
Yeah, so I'm pretty sure I know who this is.
She's smoking hot, too.
It's an honor.
She, he's anonymous.
Yeah, yeah.
I have one more thing.
I have Ron Paul on the fiscal cliff if you're interested.
Love to hear it.
Because, you know, Ron Paul, pretty soon he'll just be gone, and then we won't have him anymore.
At least he won't be, you know, people won't want to interview him anymore because he won't be a congressman and, you know, just be like, whatever.
Well, before you play that clip then, I do have a bunch of retrospective clips that kind of celebrate the year we did in 2012, and I want to remind people about how Ron Paul was typically handled during the presidential election, With this reminder clip, the Ron Paul event clip.
I really don't have to introduce my wife.
I think you know my wife, Carol.
And we have a few other members of the family here.
We have a daughter-in-law, Peggy, and...
We have Lisa, Linda, Linda...
Yeah, I remember that.
Pull the plug!
Pull the plug on him!
With apologies, we have lost our signal from the Ron Paul event, and we will work very hard to get that back.
Thank you for reminding us.
You know, I have to say that sometimes I'll be like lying in bed or something, I'm thinking about what we're going to do on the show, and I just think about all the things that we've covered that no one's ever heard of, ever.
No one has never been brought up anywhere.
And this is one of them.
I mean, of course, in retrospect, you think about it, we've covered a lot of stuff.
It's pretty amazing that they did that.
Okay, so here's Ron Paul on CNBC talking about the fiscal cliff.
I kind of did a hack job to just put two pieces together just so you get all the relevant pieces of what he's saying, which is pretty much in line with what we've been saying all along.
And in the midst of this crisis of a major deficit and a national debt increase coming up, you know, nobody wants to talk about military cuts.
You think they're not going to give the farmers their due?
Because now that the milk will be doubled in price if they do that, so the farm bill will get passed.
The safety net is always available to rich and poor.
Republicans and Democrats all support this.
Now there's been a recent hurricane.
There will be no hesitation whatsoever.
To spend that money without offsetting it.
So the Republicans and Democrats, they pretend they're fighting up there.
But they really aren't.
They're arguing over power and spin and who looks good and who looks bad.
But they're all trying to preserve this system where they can spend what they want and take care of their friends and let the Fed spread the money when they need it.
But the markets are saying, and it'll get a lot worse, I think they're saying, there's a limit to this and we're reaching it.
And there is not going to be a political solution here in the next 20 days or 30 days or even 6 months.
Whatever they do here between now and the beginning of the year will just be fluff and it will not solve our problems.
Our government is spending way too much and it's way beyond our means.
And there's not a single bit of effort to cut anything.
Even when they talk about slashing the budget and these cuts, they're only talking about tinkering on the edges of proposed automatic increases.
So they're so far removed from admitting the seriousness of this crisis, and if they don't admit it, they can't solve the problem.
They're like a bunch of drug addicts that just want another fix, and that's what they're looking for.
So let me get this straight.
Everyone's just acting and they're a bunch of drug addicts.
That sounds about right.
Yeah, I think you nailed it.
And we always have to remember half of these cuts that are proposed by either side are just cuts.
They're cuts of the increases.
They're not cuts of, like you've got a program that's costing you $150 million a year, and they want to run it up to $200 million.
So they're going to cut out, let's say, we're going to have a 20% cut.
We're going to cut $40 million.
So $40 from the $200, not $40 from the $150, so it ends up going up anyway.
Exactly.
It's amazing to me that they get away with this and the media never calls them on it.
Well, Ron Paul just mentioned that on CNBC and all 12 people watching heard him.
Yeah, CNBC is a classic station that does one thing and one thing, only stock tips.
And so I guess it would make a few people think twice about it.
I don't know what's going to happen in the stock market after the first if they go over the cliff.
It's going to be interesting to watch.
So, of course, amidst all of this, and I'm not in the Gitmo Nation United States, so I have no idea, but I can kind of make an educated guess that this was not covered.
And it may be a little bit of coverage here and there sporadically, but on the day of our previous show...
There was a 10-hour session total in Congress and Senate, actually.
And the FISA, the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, originally started by Jimmy Carter, and of course, after 9-11, George W. Bush put in the amendments which allowed for warrantless wiretapping, i.e.
spying on the citizens of the United States of Gitmo Nation, Even though there were two reasonable amendments, the amendments were just destroyed and trailed, vitiated.
And the whole thing was passed for another five years, mainly driven by Dianne Feinstein of California.
and I would just like to play a little bit of the start of her monologue there in the Senate and you can just, well, Well, you'll throw up in your mouth just when you hear her talk and how she single-handedly, pretty much, along with all the other douchebags in the House and in the Senate, just have placed no value on us whatsoever on any of our rights.
And of course, because of all the gun talk and whatever show business news is going on, end of the year retrospectives.
This was just rammed through and no conversation about it whatsoever.
In fact, it also seems that most of the zombies in America don't even care anymore.
I'm from California.
Mr.
President, I'd like to make the opening statement, at least as the committee chair on the bill that's before the Senate.
This bill is a simple bill.
This is a House bill that extends and reauthorizes The Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, called the FISA Amendment, Section 702.
It reauthorizes it for five years until December 31, 2017.
That is all it does.
Without Senate action, these authorities to collect intelligence expire in four days.
That's the reason it's the House bill before us.
And that's the reason why I urge this body to vote no on all amendments.
Send this reauthorization back.
Well, it goes right to the President if we accept the House bill and get it signed.
If it goes past the first, the program comes down.
The program is interrupted.
So this is important.
It has the support of the Director of National Security, Jim Clapper.
The Attorney General Eric Holder and other national security officials who have made clear as to the importance of this.
And at this time, following my remarks, I'd like to enter letters into the record from all of the administration, essentially saying this is our highest intelligence authorization.
Right.
And, of course, after a whole bunch of back and forth, The douchebags just passed that and King Obama shall be signing that.
The man who actually campaigned against FISA and accused Bush of being a total dictator with the warrantless wiretaps.
Now it all comes into view, although not covered by the complicit mainstream media.
That King Obama is just Bush.
He's not even Bush-like.
He is Bush-double-down.
It's unbelievable.
Bush on steroids.
On steroids.
And not to mention his 333 drone strikes in 2012.
That's not my number.
That's an official number.
333 drone strikes.
So, shameful.
Shameful, I tell you.
And Feinstein, I believe, is a Democrat.
Am I correct?
Yeah, yeah, well, it doesn't make Democrat or Republican they're all for this.
It's not that the Republicans stood up and said, no!
No, of course not.
Of course not.
But Republicans always get blamed for being total a-holes and, you know, wanting to militarize everything and spy and just be horrible people.
And here it is.
Just keep it going.
Nothing to see here.
Just keep on spying on Americans.
Yep.
Yep, against the Constitution, the whole thing.
Meanwhile, we did have some interesting lighter parts of this last 2012 that I want to have a clip of, just for people who need to know this sort of thing, because you have to keep people occupied with something that's more pleasant than this political crap.
And so I would play the AVN Awards clip.
Yes.
To get people back into the mood.
Right.
Best porn star website.
Wait a minute.
Best porn star website?
That's a category now?
Wow.
Oh, yeah.
Joanna Angel.
JoannaAngel.com.
Lisa Ann.
TheLisaAnn.com.
Jessica Drake.
JessicaDrake.com.
Lupe Fuentes.
ILoveLupe.com.
JennaHayes.
JennaHayes.com.
SunnyLeone.
SunnyLeone.com.
And the winner is Joanna Angel.
Joanna Angel.
Woo, baby!
Joanna Angel.
This porn website of 2012.
It is so cool to come on stage and accept an award for yourself.
Wow.
See, this is why I hate not being back home.
I mean, what station was this on?
How come I didn't get to see this?
Showtime.
Oh, man.
That's awesome.
I love it.
How come everybody was just like, so-and-so, so-and-so.com, so-and-so, so-and-so.com, so-and-so, so-and-so.
It's like dumb.
Who cares?
It's not dumb.
Did any of the porn actresses make out with each other on stage?
Yeah, come on.
Maybe.
Maybe.
I don't watch this whole thing.
It's very hard to watch.
It's actually kind of sickening.
Kind of?
Uh-huh.
I love it.
I love it.
Another thing that took place in 2012 that seems to have died out, especially with all these gun shootings, is the Doomsday Prepper show.
It started off with a bang, and I think it's kind of fallen by the wayside.
But you get this particular kind of clip that we pull from these shows.
This was back in January.
Becky becomes a sniper.
But in a government takeover, Becky believes she will need offensive as well as defensive weapons.
So if necessary, she can preemptively eliminate a threat without being detected.
Today, with Bob's expertise, she is training with a bolt-action sniper rifle, outfitted with a telescopic lens that guarantees optimal precision from up to 1,000 yards away.
I'm taking sniper training because then I could keep people as far away from me as I needed to.
This hand goes underneath.
You support it.
Make a fist.
Pull it tight into your shoulder.
You want me to have it dead center vertically, right?
Today, Becky's bullseye is 200 yards, the equivalent of two football fields.
You hit it.
Did I? Yes.
Sweet!
Yeah, yeah.
Let me guess, has the show not gotten picked up for renewal?
Is this an educated guess here?
Sweet!
It's very interesting how...
From afar, I have no idea what's really taking place, but a lot of people are comparing this to exactly the way it went down in Australia when they had a mass killing, shooting, and then all of the Australian human resources kind of gladly gave up all of their weaponry.
And the only way you can really get this, and we're seeing all these shows being canceled, movie premieres not happening, and that there really is a shaming taking place.
And, of course, the only way to get people to give up their guns is not the government telling you to, but to have people tricked, basically, into doing it and peer pressure.
And I don't know.
I mean, it seems to have kind of worked in Australia.
Do you think that that could happen in the United States, John, from where you're sitting and what you're seeing?
No, I think we've been pretty much this Second Amendment thing that doesn't exist in Australia.
And we have a couple propagandistic operations, the National Gun Association, and there's a couple other ones.
You mean National Rifle Association?
No, I'm sorry, National Rifle.
What did I say?
National Gun Association, which I like.
I like that one.
It's better.
We should start that.
NGA. We should start that.
The National Rifle.
But they've done a job on...
And we have a certain kind of a reverse logic that we've established in this country where...
Because when they ran all those...
You can go on the internet and there's an interactive map from one of the newspapers.
I guess it's in Jersey somewhere, Westchester County.
And it shows every gun permit that was ever issued.
You can click on it and see who the person is.
And again, this is what you just said, shaming them.
Oh, he has a gun.
And the counter-argument is like, oh, they're going to take...
People came in to comment on it.
They said, oh, well now we know who the robbers won't go rob.
Right.
What kind of logic appears that didn't seem to appear in Australia, which is, oh, we know where the guns are.
That means that everyone else who doesn't have a gun are the ones that are going to get burglarized.
Right, right, right.
Which would encourage the sales of more guns, obviously.
Or the thing about the schools, well, you take all the guns out of the schools so there's no guards or anything.
You're just leaving them as sitting ducks.
We assume in this country that everybody is armed and they're going to shoot somebody if they're not armed.
Yeah.
And, of course, nobody wants to bring up the Texas crime statistic.
Which is extremely low.
Yes, and why is that, do you think?
Because everyone's really nice to each other.
This is the first thing we notice when we visited Austin.
Austin, by the way, which I don't know the exact statistics, but I'm pretty sure the majority of Austinites voted for Obama, yet everyone is armed, which is why everyone's so nice.
This is what I have to keep explaining to people over here.
You know, they say, really?
That's crazy.
Yeah, maybe.
Maybe it's crazy, but it does seem to work.
Everyone's nice.
I don't have to worry about my house getting broken into.
I don't have to worry about getting carjacked.
And, you know, of course, Ms.
Mickey's passenger side door won't open anyway, but there's no, you just have to, people aren't doing that kind of thing.
And there was something else that...
In San Antonio, you know, there was...
Did you hear about this?
Actually, you didn't hear about it because some guy was pissed at his girlfriend and he went into a restaurant and I don't know if he killed her, but he shot at her and then everyone ran out into a movie theater next door and then he went in there to go and shoot people and then an off-duty cop...
With her personal gun, pulled it out and shot him and stopped him from shooting anybody.
And of course that story got zero legs in mainstream media because it kind of doesn't fit with the propaganda that's going on right now.
It's hard though.
It's hard for the rest of the world and also a lot of Americans to just really believe that it's just the way it works.
Well, I don't think that was the case some years ago.
I think it's hard nowadays.
People, because they've been, you know, we get the crap, I mean, it's like, I mentioned this on the show some, a few weeks back, about the guy was in the rifle club in high school.
You know, it was a shooting club, and they would go out and get different rifles and go shooting at targets, and they, I mean, there are still target shooting in, there's still target shooting in the Olympics, for example, and all the countries participate.
Yeah, with skis.
You ski first, and then you shoot.
Yeah, that too.
That's a different one, but they have their stationary stuff.
That's my favorite.
I like that one, where they ski and shoot.
Yeah, skiing and shooting.
But you try to put one of those in a high school in California, a gun club, and they would go crazy.
But it's beyond that, John.
It's something else.
It's the idea.
So, of course, we have balance in the world on the global stage.
Where everyone has missiles and we have nuclear warheads.
Even the Netherlands, peace-loving Netherlands.
People get machine guns in Amsterdam, but it's peace-loving Netherlands.
And they've got some Patriot missile batteries.
And like, oh, we'll just move them over to Turkey to show the power of NATO in front of Syria.
So on this country scale, it's used all the time and everyone knows about it.
And I guess you have this balance of power or whatever it's supposed to be.
At least it's accepted.
It's generally accepted.
It's deterrence.
Yeah, it's generally accepted by people.
But then when it comes down to a citizenry, people just really...
Something has happened.
It's been this way in America for 200 years.
But it really changed.
And I guess I think that you keep working on people long enough, you keep pounding it in long enough, that at some point, and it probably won't be now, but maybe 30, 40, 50 years in the future, I can see an America without guns.
I can see it happening because people are just mind-controlled into believing that this other way is better, even though on a global scale that's not how the world works.
Well, the same people would tell you, well, we need to do unilateral disarmament.
So, I mean, it's not like they're inconsistent with their thinking.
But the fact that anybody buys into it, if you look at the reality of the situation, we're not one world, one world government.
Maybe, I mean, they'd like that to happen.
I don't see it personally.
I think culturally there's too much.
I think diversity proves that you can't do it.
But, I don't know, it's just very semi-depressing to watch this deteriorate.
I think it's a deteriorating situation.
And in fact, I've got one more clip since we're on that topic.
Tell me if you remember any of this.
Play Charon near Cleveland.
This happened in, I think, January or February.
From ABC News, this is ABC World News with Diane Sawyer.
Good evening.
Tonight we add another name to that searing list that begins with Columbine and Virginia Tech.
It is the small town of Chardon, Ohio.
5,000 people who live right outside Cleveland known for their serenity and maple syrup until today.
No, I don't remember this at all.
What happened?
It was a school shooting.
No.
Yeah.
How many kids?
How soon you forget!
Well, yeah.
I mean, there must have been a sex tape that came out after that from some celebrity.
Of course, of course you forget this.
I don't remember this at all, especially not the maple syrup thing.
It's been taken out of the litany and not mentioned anymore because it only killed, I think six people were shot and three died.
It was only too small.
Oh, no, this was not good.
But it was the first school shooting of 2012.
Really?
Here it is.
Chardon High School shooting.
Ohio.
Hmm.
And we did talk about it.
I'm sure we did, but I can't remember this at all.
No, when I was going through the clips, I said, what?
I had to look it up.
Hold on a second.
Did the shooter kill himself?
I don't remember the details at all.
Let's see.
Lane.
Lane, Lane, Lane.
No, no.
They caught him.
He was running for it.
He was running into the woods or something.
They grabbed him.
So this wasn't an MKUltra mind-controlled shooter.
No, that's why he didn't kill that many.
He was also using a.22, which is problematic.
Yeah, it wasn't good enough.
It didn't get any legs because he wasn't using an assault rifle.
It wasn't good enough.
It wasn't an old AR-15 that they had to get rid of by selling him off.
Somebody mentioned they went to a gun show, and we talked about this on the last show, Eric DeShield's theory that the old-style AR-15s are being discontinued, and they've got to dump inventory, especially Bushmaster.
Right.
And the guy says he goes to a gun show, he says the Bushmasters, there's tons of them they're trying to get rid of.
Yeah.
Interesting.
I got a clip here about a gun show, and it was the end of the clip that I was like, huh?
I didn't really...
Maybe it'll be an Ask John segment.
Here, listen to this.
Gun sales are surging following the school shooting in Newtown, Connecticut two weeks ago.
That's a headline for you right there, isn't it?
Just like, yep, all going according to plan.
More sales.
We're good dumping those Bushmasters.
In Virginia this weekend, gun show organizers expected the turnout to double over the November show.
Virginia State Police say gun dealers are requesting a record number of background checks representing twice as many gun sales over last year.
In Colorado, it took the Bureau of Investigation 23 minutes to do a background check in November.
Now it's seven days.
This is weird.
So...
They're saying that because of the surge in sales, it used to take 23 minutes to do a background check.
Now it's seven days?
This doesn't make any sense to me.
That's not a background check.
That's a waiting period.
Yeah.
No, you're right.
It's not a background check.
It doesn't take seven days to do a background check.
It takes seven days to wait for a background check.
Well, no, but she literally just said...
In November, it took 23 minutes.
Now it takes seven days because of the surge in sales.
That's exactly what she said.
It takes seven days to do a background check instead of seven days to get a background check.
I mean, this is just lousy reporting.
Let me listen again.
I don't know.
Let me hear it again.
Hold on.
Investigation, 23 minutes.
Hold on.
Let me just roll it back just a little bit.
Here we go.
Background checks representing twice as many gun sales over last year.
In Colorado, it took the Bureau of Investigation 23 minutes to do a background check in November.
Now it's seven days.
That's pretty clear to me.
Clear to you what?
That it's now taking seven days instead of 23 minutes.
Yeah, well that's true, but I think you're right.
It's a waiting list.
Yeah, we'll get to it when we can.
Yeah.
I mean, how long does it actually take?
Say there's no waiting list.
How long does it take to do a background check?
23 minutes.
It's got to be it, or less.
I mean, it shouldn't even...
I mean, it's just because...
I think what she's saying is...
Yeah, you just type something in and you look at it.
Oh, this guy's okay.
Yeah, it's like, social security number, name, look at what comes back, then you're done.
That's it.
Yeah, you got any tickets, you got any tickets, you've been beating your wife, you got any straining orders.
Beating your wife.
Yeah, it looks all that stuff.
Yeah.
Are you dying on a Russian hooker?
No?
Okay, you're good to go.
Luckily, though, we were able to turn this into a movie promotion.
All the fiscal cliff wrangling, director Steven Spielberg and actor Daniel Day-Lewis showed the movie Lincoln to the entire Senate.
Blood's been spilled to afford us this moment.
Now!
The film celebrates presidential power and crafty legislative strategy.
And the president may need the wisdom of Lincoln for his latest legislative battle, gun control.
The wisdom of Lincoln, I tell you.
Was this the guy who got shot?
The wisdom of Lincoln for...
Was Lincoln such a crafty legislator?
Did I miss something?
I have no idea what they're talking about.
Oh, they're talking about Lincoln was such a...
Well, first of all...
They're trying to associate him with Obama somehow.
Yes, exactly.
Exactly.
That he was a...
Well, they're promoting a movie regardless.
That's what's going on.
Yeah, it's a movie.
Hello?
So you show it to everyone on the Hill.
Hey guys, free movie!
And meet Steven Spielberg.
Oh, does Spielberg show up?
Hello?
Of course.
Of course.
That's the extraordinary folks.
See, we're ordinary folks.
So do you think that Congress is...
Above us or below us in the folk level?
So we're ordinary.
Are they extraordinary?
I think they're subhuman at this point.
Yeah, exactly.
So before we get to our little thank you segment, there was Ira Glass, who works for the National Treasure, NPR. That's funny.
I almost had the same clip.
Oh, really?
I think so.
Because Ira Glass, yeah, go on.
So he does This American Life, which is, I'd say, a pretty popular program, even amongst the young'uns as a podcast.
And he did the commencement for, I think it was CUNY? The Community University, or what is it, New York?
CUNY. CUNY? For the journalism students.
And he brought, he basically, in a kind of tweet, not exactly our way, but it seems like, and John, you and I have been saying this, that one day, all these idiots there at the National Treasure, the so-called public service television and radio, who play commercials...
Commercials, you know, actual commercials with codes to go get your free goodies from GoDaddy or Carbonite or whatever.
And, you know, the car show as car commercials.
These are not just underwriters or, you know, just grants or anything.
These are actual commercials that one day they'll wake up and they'll go, oh, my God, these No Agenda guys, you know, they're like doing something really revolutionary and new and a real public service.
And they'll be able to just get by doing it.
So Ira Glass is waking up.
Of course, there's no mention of us.
And of course, it's not really our value for value model.
But I thought it was interesting.
I'll just play a little bit of this so you can hear how at least he is seeing that there is something changing in the media landscape.
And I think we are leading that charge.
And it was great, actually.
And this year, the buzz was all about this guy named Roman Mars.
Have you ever heard of this guy named Roman Mars and the buzz?
No, and it's kind of what buzz?
It's the buzz.
Look up, buzz.
Buzz.
A lot of buzz about this guy.
Roman had created this podcast called 99% Invisible about design.
He did it on its own.
It had an audience.
It wasn't a huge audience.
It was a good audience in the tens of thousands.
And he decided, well, let's see if this can be a business.
Like, let's see if I can make a living off of this.
And so he did a Kickstarter campaign.
And his goal was to raise $42,000.
And his listeners gave him $170,000.
I'm like, whoa!
Hello!
Should we try the Kickstarter thing, John?
Yeah, of course.
That sounds like the way to go.
And that was just very new in our corner of the media world.
Nobody had done that.
And very, very different from a couple of years ago or from the decades ago when I started This American Life, where we had to turn to foundations and write grants or get some bigger institution like a radio station or a network if you wanted to start something to be your funder.
And also, in the past, it was common to have the experience of you could do really good work and original work, And there was no clear way to make a living off of it.
Like, there was no clear way to monetize it.
And what Roman Mars showed us was that if you make something good, there's an environment now where you can invent a way to get money from it.
So, I don't know who this Roman Mars guy is.
I've never heard of his show.
And I disagree with a lot of what I'm hearing.
But the idea that these guys are waking up and they're realizing that they are on the wrong end and the wrong side of history kind of makes me happy.
Kind of makes me happy because we clearly have an outstanding product.
That has got to be that way.
Yeah, no.
I think there's no doubt about it.
Otherwise, you wouldn't be able to hear...
I'm going to show my school by donating to no agenda.
Or...
That's right.
That's really...
Now, show me that on your 99 podcast.
Show me the harmonica.
Show me that whistle thing.
The guy's got nothing.
Where's that...
Where's that thing?
Oh, the...
Yeah, where is that?
Yeah, that's a new thing you got.
You know, the problem I have...
I'm spending all my time smashing ants because I've got an ant attack happening while I'm doing the podcast.
Again?
I thought this was taken care of.
It's gotten worse as I start smashing them.
They've decided to turn on me.
I can't describe the horror that I'm undergoing.
No, you don't have to describe it to me because Miss Mickey and I have witnessed the horror.
We know what it is.
It's horrible.
And are you naked at this point with the beaver hat on?
Because that's really bad if you've got ants.
I would be.
I would normally be because I like to podcast that way.
But the beaver hat was stolen in New York City and I decided not to get any more beaver hats.
Because you like to podcast naked with the beaver hat.
Hey, Hondo in the chat room, blow me.
Sorry.
All right, Honda.
You're an idiot.
Do schnozzle.
Stephen Nelson.
We want to thank a few people, including Stephen Nelson, who's going to be a knight today at Wheat Ridge, Colorado, 116-13.
This will complete his knighthood.
He wants just some MILF baby karma.
Okay.
MILF baby karma.
So that's hot new MILF baby?
Is that what he means?
Yeah, it's a hot MILF baby.
Okay, I guess so.
That's one hot MILF baby.
You've got karma.
You know, I'm getting concerned now because I can't find that little siren.
I think the ants have taken it.
They do that, you know, they walk off with stuff.
Sir Jason Stevens, $111.11 from Parts Unknown.
Anonymous from Parts Unknown, $100.
Be quiet about the donation.
My wife thinks you guys are knuckleheads and does not believe you provide the best podcast in the universe.
Oh, really?
John, I'm coming back so loud now.
Do you move or do you change?
What did you do?
No, I'm just sitting in the same spot.
Impossible.
I'm just telling you.
All right.
So anyway, he says, funny how oil and water can mix if the sex is good.
She voted for Obama.
And I voted libertarian.
We totally disagree on TV as well as podcasts.
The solution is separate offices, TVs, and computers.
Sweet.
What can I do to make her see the light short of applying the formula?
I think you should just divorce her.
That's what it sounds like to me.
Well, it says...
Yeah, it's his wife.
Well, if they don't have kids...
I don't know if he's ever going to get her to be, you know, she's an Obama bot.
To me, it sounds, well, you know, it's okay.
It's all right, whatever she's voting for.
But I think you're disagreeing on television, you're disagreeing on podcasts.
I mean, basically, they just get together once in a while to have angry sex.
Is that all I'm seeing here?
I don't think this is a relationship, my friend.
Well, I would...
Get as much sex as you can and then figure out what to do.
Chris Ricketson in Ventura, California, $100.
The extra $100 for the total, $200 credited to Chris Ricketson this week.
Please put together with a jingle request from first the donation.
Sorry for it being split up.
Keep up the good work.
And then he sends another donation in.
Please credit to Chris Ricketson, the best zombie mitigation RV specialist in Gitmo proper, as payment for working on my rig.
Shut up, slave.
Two to the head.
Okay.
Shut up, slave!
You got it.
Jeffrey Fitch in Windermere, Florida.
7590.
I don't have a note, but he's a knight.
Daniel Kepler, Phoenix, Arizona.
True 69.
Uh-oh.
69!
69, dudes!
Annoyed by the missing siren.
Yeah.
Daniel Kepler, Phoenix, Arizona.
Why the same thing over again?
Boring!
Do it, then flip.
Please give a clippity-clop.
What?
What is he talking about?
Boring.
I have no idea.
Two to the head, lone wolf for Vicky and Sammy, 20 years too late.
It's clippity-clop.
The message is clear.
You've got karma.
Ladies and gentlemen, that's entertainment.
Hell yeah.
When I moved from Australia, I was anti-gun.
Since living here in the USA, Oklahoma as a matter of fact, I've become very gun-neutral.
Now thanks to Piers Morgan stating that the U.S. doesn't change its gun laws, he will deport himself.
I am now happily pro-gun!
Keep hitting them in the mouth, gentlemen.
I'd like a douchebag.
Call out for penis moron with a two to the head and then a sign of karma.
Can I just ask you, do you understand Diligaff?
I just want to make sure you...
No.
Do I look like I give a F? You've got karma.
You've got to be with the kids, man.
You've got to be with the kids.
Dillagaff.
You've got to know what's going on.
Hey, Dillagaff.
Hey, Dillagaff.
Yeah, Dillagaff.
Timothy Black Knight, Timothy Cheng in Brookline, Massachusetts.
That's 69-69.
By the way, we barely made it on the 69-69.
Donating after checking my accounting on the No Agenda Nation, realize that I'm already at 1168, 67.
I listened to you guys from day one when it was about food and other nonsense.
I like to hear you guys talk.
I listened to Adam's Daily Source Code from back in the day.
This phone is like way too loud.
Why don't you finish off the reading of this and then I'll go turn that off.
Oh, okay.
Maybe it's that Russian hooker.
Yeah, maybe.
Yeah, see, but I can't talk now because it's like I got an echo.
I used to listen to Adam Curry's Daily Source Code from back in the day.
Witnesses transformation from being the podfather pushing pod safe music to the cynical crackpot media assassin extraordinaire.
Hmm.
Someone needs to put together a clip show that would track the evolution of Adam throughout the years.
It inspired me to become the crackpot guy I am today, where family and friends shun me for my vaccine denialism.
Ron politics and cynicism of media coverage.
Alas, all is not lost as I have a fantastic girlfriend who, even though she doesn't listen to the show, thinks that everything I say is rather logical and sensible.
You must have a large penis.
I thus dedicate this donation to her.
Can I have the Spanish in the morning?
She's Spanish, followed by the 69 and 69, then it's too delicious to believe.
Loyal producer of the best podcast in the universe.
So, and normally when John's reading that stuff, I cue it all up.
No, I'm good.
Yeah, so let me see.
I've got the, here we go.
It's almost too delicious to believe, my friend.
There you go.
He's a fan.
That's the end of the 69-69.
That's weird.
Ryan Vance 3.
What was it?
3?
Yeah, that's almost it.
It's almost over.
I think we're almost done with this.
Good.
The record was 22.
Ryan Van, Tempe, Arizona, $56.
Seems the comments from my latest donation got vitiated by the donation Stargate.
Vitiated.
I blame Harry Reid.
Needless to say, I had a dry birthday.
In my sobriety, I realized the central question was that I needed to double down.
You know, that central question thing is great.
That's good.
Please accept another $56.
I'd like some celebrity moonshine to celebrate.
By the way, so we got the moonshine from our...
Well, you did.
I didn't get any moonshine yet.
It wouldn't be shipped to Holland.
It would be export laws.
Yes, I know.
Thank you for reminding me.
So it's a 180.
180 proof?
By the way, it's beautifully packaged.
It's got our logo and everything.
It just says, no agenda, show moonshine.
But it's essentially a 180 proof vodka.
But I didn't quite read the note.
And thank God I didn't drink it.
I was just going to do a classic wine test where you put it in your mouth and you spit it out.
I put it in my mouth like an idiot because I didn't read the documentation.
People, read your documentation.
You warned me not to do that.
What happened?
Well, have you ever put, like, Everclear had a shot of that or even put it in your mouth?
If you drink it, you could die.
It sucks all the moisture out of everything.
So you put it in your mouth and you go, holy shit!
And you blow it out and it just burns like hell and you've got to get a lot of water in your mouth as fast as you can.
So wait a minute.
So this is a product that has our brand name on it that is open source, of course, but it actually kills people?
Is this what you're saying?
No, I won't kill it.
No, I mean Everclear will kill you too.
What is Everclear?
Well, Everclear is almost pure alcohol.
It's sold as Everclear.
It's made by the refining process, and I think it's 180 proof, 190 proof maybe, or maybe 150.
Whatever it is, it's too high.
But you can drink this.
I mean, so you can drink it or you can't drink it.
I'm confused.
You can drink it.
It's not only that, but it's filtered five times, and it's charcoal.
Sounds awesome to me.
This sounds really good.
It's very awesome, but you have to mix it.
You can take a shot at this.
Oh, I see.
And put it in some orange juice and you're in business.
Oh, I see.
You shouldn't be drinking it straight up is what you're saying.
No, no.
Shots of 180 is not healthy.
And this is in the documentation?
He told me about it and I said, but you know, I didn't read it.
I just sold this because it was well packaged.
It's beautiful.
So hold on.
Do you have some of this right now with you?
Do you have it in there?
I have a bottle.
Okay.
So why don't you spray some on the ants, see what happens.
It'll kill them.
Yes.
This is what I'm saying.
He says it could be used as paint thinner.
It can also be used as gasoline in an alcohol-burning car.
It's very powerful.
Can I just throw it in the truck?
But he also made it from cane sugar.
This is a little tip that's interesting.
Because if he doesn't make it from grain, no matter what he does, because cane sugar will not produce methanol as one of the alcohol byproducts.
Because there's no wood in it.
That's wood alcohol.
And so it's very nicely done.
I was really surprised how well done this was.
Can you do me a favor?
Can you take a picture of the bottle and can you put it on the No Agenda community on Google Plus?
Oh, yeah.
Would you please?
I mean, I think people would really love to see you there now that we're over 1,000.
Just post a picture.
You don't have to say anything.
I'll be coming.
Okay.
You heard it here first.
He'll be coming.
Round the mountain when she comes.
All right, finish up with Ryan.
Ryan Vann.
Ryan Vann, meanwhile, is going to be Arizona.
Yeah, he says...
Oh, we just did him.
Candace Hart in West Coast.
Hold on, hold on.
No, no, no.
He says.
We didn't finish him up.
You just cut away.
I'd like to do some celebrity moonshine to celebrate the new AMT-filled tax year, which we're all going to be screwed by.
Read my column this last Friday in MarketWatch, by the way, if you want to know more.
There's come some links in there.
I put the links in there because I know the editors didn't believe this either.
To ward off taxageddon for all the shittizens of Gitmo Nation regards Ryan.
He said, I want some karma.
I've got to make sure we do the karma.
You can't just skip that.
You've got karma.
You know, it's like...
Because then you know what happens when we skip the karma, then it's another email.
It's like, you didn't give me karma, I gotta afford that to Buzzkill Jr.
Candice Hart in Westville, New Jersey, a new donor it looks like.
5555, donations a birthday present for my boyfriend Nikosi.
Been a long time boner, first time donor.
Would love for a dedouching for him on his 25th birthday.
And a double shot at karma as we head into 2013 home for new jobs and a cross-country move from Jersey to a destination yet to be named.
Stay out of California.
Go move to Texas.
Thanks so much for all you do in keeping us slaves informed, but also love a shut-up slave for me because that's my favorite one.
Shut up, slave!
You've been de-douched.
You've got karma.
And by the way, Candice, I think that being from Jersey myself, you will find Austin, Texas very amenable.
And we'll actually let you in.
Jeffrey Anderson in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, 55.
ITM, John and Adam, if those are indeed still your names.
I have to confess that money has been tight and I've been a complete douche dingler for not donating since the springtime.
I would like a re-douched and then promptly de-douched.
Now that business is done, I would like to chime in about the recently released movie Jack Reacher.
Oh, this is a Tom Cruise movie.
They took a bunch of scenes out of it because of the gun shooting.
I saw it because it was filmed here in Pittsburgh and didn't expect much.
However, the movie revolves around a mass shooting and a central plot evolves into one of John's favorite theories when it comes to mass shootings.
There are a lot of interesting memes tossed into the movie and the timing of this release is highly suspicious.
All in all, not a bad two hours, especially in light of current events.
Finally, I'd like to request a Drone Again Naturally 999 Karma to ensure a safe and healthy 2013 for myself, friends, and family, John and Adam, and their families, and all the knights and dames and producers in the Gitmoverse.
Continued success of the best podcast in the universe on the road to 500.
You've got karma.
Hey, I like that combo.
That's a very musical combo.
Very nice.
Jeffrey Anderson in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania.
I'm sorry, that was Jeffrey.
Podcast for Peace in Alamo, 5150.
Happy New Year.
Wishes us.
And finally, Daniel Smith in Christchurch, $50.12.
And that will conclude our donation segment for show 474.
Curiously, nobody took advantage of the palindrome, but I think we did fine for today.
But we're starting a new year, and let's hope it's better than last year.
What the hell was that?
And I keep kicking douche nozzle out of the chat room.
You know, we start our donation segment, which is always filled with fantastic content, right?
I mean, did we not just have an entire conversation about the moonshine?
And so douche nozzles in the chatroom like, oh, time, I'm going to go away for the bathroom.
No content for the next 30 minutes.
So I kicked him out.
Good.
Right.
And so we're keeping them out.
Can't come back until after the segment.
Stay away.
Right?
Hey!
You found it!
I love it.
Please.
This is the last show of 2012.
Make 2013 just as good so we can keep just getting by.
Dvorak.org slash NJ. Ow.
Ow.
Ow.
It's just like that, I say.
Oh, no, I can't.
Ah, kind of short list, but it's a very important one.
Our little Lizzie.
Lizzie, who you know from...
Turned seven today.
So happy birthday, Lizzie, on behalf of all your buddies here at the No Agenda Show.
And of course, your daddy, Michael Ross.
And Candace Hart says happy birthday to her boyfriend, Nicosi.
He turns 25 today.
Happy birthday, the last time in 2012.
Isn't that cool that Lizzie turned seven today?
That's good, yeah.
Hopefully she can maybe give us one more year of great clips.
Yeah, because eventually the voice will change.
She's not going to sound like this forever.
Shut up, slave!
Shut up, slave!
It just won't be as good.
I pity the boy that becomes her first boyfriend.
I really do.
It's sad.
It's just going to be really, really sad.
So let me just make sure we have...
I'm missing...
Yeah, so there were a couple of...
Actually two, a knight and a dame who we messed up on.
So we'll have a black dame, Samantha Esposito, and a black knight, Scott Morgan, today in the ceremony.
And I don't think I can actually fit everybody into the No Agenda Knight theme, but I'll give it a try.
In fact, why don't I just give you the list right now and then I'll do the knighting during the theme.
So we are going to knight Doug Owens, Thomas Ward, Patrick Vaughn, Donald...
Philip Chuck.
Philip Chuck.
Or Philip Chuck.
Philip Chuck.
Scott William.
Tim...
Thomas Battick.
So we have two Thomases.
This is going to be a tough one, but I think we'll just have to do SirThomas1, SirThomas2, or just SirThomas twice.
CloudSigmaAG.
Bernie Adama, Sean McGrath, Stephan Nelson, Jeffrey Fitch, Nick Wallace, Nick A. Wallace, and then as I said, Scott Morgan will be a Black Knight and Samantha Esposito will be a Black Dame.
So if you can get it, we need extra, we need the big sword for this one, John, if you can.
Yep.
Okay, got it.
Here we go.
Here we go.
And here we go!
We hereby proudly pronounce these...
Sir Doug!
Sir Thomas!
Sir Patrick!
Sir Donald!
Sir William!
Sir Tim!
Sir Thomas!
Sir Cloud Sigla!
Sir Bernie Anima!
Sir Sean!
Sir Stefan!
Sir Jeffrey!
Sir Nick!
Sir Black Knight Scott!
And Dame Black Knight Samantha!
All Knights and Dane of the Noah General Roundtable!
Come on down for your hookers and blow, your rent boys and chardonnay, your hot pants and booze, your wenches and beer, your Rubinettes, women and rosé, your Geishas and sake, vodka and vanilla, sparkling cider and escorts, and mutton and mead.
Thank you for rounding out the year as our final night to receive rings and dame, of course, and we look forward to your continued support.
We know that there's one thing we can always count on, and that is the support of the Knights of the Noagenda Roundtable.
It is a great group.
You can go to noagendanation.com.
There you can see the map where all of the dames and knights are located.
Some of them, I think, are actually hams.
We really, really appreciate what you have done for keeping the value model alive and allowing us to continue unfettered analysis and deconstruction of the media.
Unfettered, really.
You have no idea how important that is.
Well, actually, you do because you see the result is a program twice a week with a minimum of two and a half hours.
So I want to mention that we still have a couple days left on the end of the year, so you can still donate to get the ring, and we'll let that go until the next show.
Somebody came in this morning and they were worried sick, but...
They'll get a ring, and they'll be mentioned on Thursday.
Oh, yes, I agree.
That's the 2nd of January birthday, is that it?
Yeah, pretty much.
I mean, you know, there are people that are on the no-agenda layaway plan for knighthood, and we put rings aside for them.
It'll be okay.
And Mimi says she's going to keep sending out rings, whether we like it or not, if the size is available.
We're running out of it.
A lot of them.
And Douche Nozzle can come back in now.
We had to give Douche Nozzle a little time out.
Anybody who calls themselves Douche Nozzle is an idiot.
This report came in, and I don't have really analysis, but I think we should take a look, or we should keep our eyes open for what's happening here.
Beyond the Northwest, U.S. troops have been deployed to Africa.
About 50 troops are in Chad right now to help evacuate Americans from the neighboring country, the Central African Republic.
President Obama authorized that move because of security concerns.
Rebels have seized several towns in the Central African Republic and are advancing on the capital city.
The evacuation comes three months after the attack on a U.S. consulate in Benghazi, Libya.
Three people, including the U.S. ambassador, were killed.
So I'm thinking that...
Not four people were killed.
Oh, interesting.
Good catch.
I didn't hear that one.
It was in total...
Well, I don't know what he said.
Did he say three people, including the ambassador?
No, no.
Really?
Capital C. The evacuation comes three months after the attack on a U.S. consulate in Benghazi, Libya.
Three people, including the U.S. ambassador, were killed.
No, that's incorrect.
Or who knows?
Who knows?
Yeah.
Who knows?
What I'm thinking is, if you look at the map, because, I mean, we've never really had any news reports on the Central African Republic And what kind of name is that for a country, by the way?
It's a crappy name.
But it is the name of a country in Africa.
C-A-R. We've got Sudan to the right.
Of course, Sudan is where you've got a lot of oil there.
I'm thinking this might be a pipeline thing because they'd want to move the oil to the coast on the west.
So if there is something going on, I'd say look for Cameroon to be in the news next.
And I'd like that to be put in the book, if you don't mind.
Okay, hold on a second.
Cameroon.
I think we're going to see Cameroon in the news next.
It's just a hunch.
It's just a hunch.
Who knows what...
Who really knows what's going to happen in this case?
But I have a feeling that Cameroon may be...
Something may be happening.
And we are now officially...
Now entering second half of show.
What does that say?
What did he say?
Second half of the show?
Now entering second half of show.
There's another one, too.
Yeah.
Attention all human resources.
Now entering the second half of show.
Well, at least the sound effect is right.
Second half of show.
So just before the show started, I got the craziest, craziest report and analysis about Lucifer clippity-clop Hillary Clinton.
And it plays into...
Something, there you go, plays into something, a report that came out earlier in the week that we didn't get to, which actually was sent to me by a couple of our Afghanistan buddies saying, hey, this is weird, this is weird, because this, well, I'll play the report and then I'll tell you why it's weird and then we'll find out how this ties into Hillary.
Don, very sad news this holiday weekend for U.S. Navy SEALs.
The Navy is now investigating the death in Afghanistan of one of its most senior deployed SEAL officers as an apparent suicide, a U.S. military official tells CNN. Navy Commander Joe W. Price, 42 years old, died.
You've got to turn something down because the report is coming back double.
Or turn your microphone away or do something.
No, I moved.
December 22nd, while serving as the commanding officer of SEAL Team 4, a group of more than two dozen commandos conducting combat operations in the southern region of the country.
Now, while the death remains under formal investigation, that U.S. military official, who's directly familiar with the event, He said the family has been notified of the death and has also been notified it is being investigated as an apparent suicide.
There is no indication at this time that Commander Price was involved in any military-related investigations or any controversies, the officials said.
Okay, so a couple things going on with this.
First of all, he replaced a commander in 2009, I believe, who was kicked out for no longer being able to handle his command position.
You've heard this kind of term before, like no longer fit to hold command.
So a lot of people find it very strange that this guy...
Under these circumstances, now that he commits suicide, here's the crazy report.
The report is, and I just didn't have the time to go back and make the timeline, but this suicide report came out not long after Hillary Clinton took ill, or at least she had the so-called concussion.
And the report that is now out there, and this is a little bit second half of the show stuff, is that the C-12 that Hillary was on coming back from, actually from Iraq, now she's been traveling all over the world, it included Job W. Price.
It crashed.
This is a weird one, but this is trickling in.
That it crashed.
The commander of the SEAL team was killed, but that Hillary was actually injured, and that she reportedly, you know, concussion, but she also was injured enough that she was bleeding, and that that is what is really going on with her because of some, quote, extreme turbulence.
But this C-12 crashed.
And that is why she's been out of commission, and that is why this guy is dead, which is now apparently being covered up as a suicide.
So, I don't have the timeline.
I don't have the full analysis.
It came out just before we started the show.
So, wait a minute.
So, you...
You're telling me that there was a plane wreck with Hillary and this guy on it.
Hillary was horribly injured, or not horribly, but enough so that they came up with this cock and bull story about this concussion that she slipped in the bathroom or whatever it was.
It was something dumb.
And here's the only thing that I don't like, is that can't they come up with something else besides the guy suicided?
Well, I think it's...
Wait a minute, hold on.
Is it just so they can save on their death benefits for the widow?
I don't know about that.
I think the whole reason...
Maybe she was flying somewhere where she shouldn't have been.
I don't think it's typical that she flies on a C-12.
Maybe it is.
I don't know.
They may have been on some mission that was unscheduled, that they had some kind of other covert reasoning behind it.
No, it was a C-12, not a C-17?
No, C-12, Huron.
According to this report.
A Huron, one of these little...
Yeah, that makes sense.
That'd be a jet, or not a jet, but a prop she'd be on.
Right.
It may have been one of these oil missions.
There could have been other people on who weren't supposed to be on it.
This is what I don't know.
But I did find it kind of interesting, particularly because so many people contacted me from overseas saying, wow, we don't believe this guy killed himself.
Because, you know, there's knowledge there on the ground.
We got a lot of people in sandy places who listen to the show and who, you know, question a lot of what's been going on recently, certainly with, you know, people in high places resigning, you know, going away.
By the way, nothing more on Petraeus.
That's just off the radar.
So, you know, so she probably had a real stomach problem, you know, could have been bleeding, internal bleeding, and she probably had a real concussion.
For real.
Yeah, if you're in a plane wreck.
Yeah.
Luckily, she didn't get killed.
Well, as it were.
No.
So that's a Beechcraft.
This is essentially the Super King.
Yeah, it's King Air.
The Big King Air.
Yeah, the Super King Air.
It's a turboprop, right?
Yeah.
Which is fast.
Oh, it goes very fast.
Yeah, it's a very nice airplane.
So...
Anyway...
Well, that's a good one.
That's the winner.
A winner of what?
Today's show.
No, no, no.
It's new information for everybody.
We never thought about this, and we're obviously never going to get reported.
The mystery is why this guy killed himself, or why they designated him killing himself.
If this is true, then they were doing something, or they were in some place where they shouldn't have been.
Otherwise, there's no reason to cover that up at all.
No reason whatsoever.
Yeah, no, obviously people would start looking into it and then they'd find out something screwy.
But I am going to be looking at it for sure.
Looking in to see what I can find out.
I've got information, man!
New shit has come to light!
So I think I have kind of a new segment that I'd like to do, which is a quick overview of the Federal Register.
We're going to call it the Federal Register Report.
Okay.
That's not what I wanted to call it.
I'm sorry.
I have the Federal Register, but then I have a report of new legislation.
We need a snappy name for it.
Something other than new legislation report.
Wait a minute.
Hold on a second.
What?
So you're giving us a big intro.
You got a new idea, and now you're changing it a little bit.
Yeah, I screwed it up.
Well, I'm confused here.
The idea is that I have a new feed that I found, okay?
And the new feed, there's all these bills that get introduced, and no one ever talks about them until they're kind of getting voted on, or maybe they're in committee or coming out of committee.
Well, there's a lot of things that happen in this.
A lot of legislation goes nowhere, right?
Which brings me, so I can interrupt here, brings me to a clip from early in the year, which I think fits right into this, and you might even use it as your...
As my jingle, my soundstage.
As your jingle, classic congressional vote.
Okay.
On this vote, the yeas are zero, and the nays are 414.
The amendment is not adopted.
What was that from?
Now, by the way, if you remember that clip.
I like that.
What was that from?
It was zero to four hundred something.
The amendment's now adopted.
Apparently, the guy who offered the amendment wouldn't even vote on it.
It's like, ah, screw it.
I don't want to look stupid amongst everyone else.
Like, I'm the only guy who voted for it.
Right.
Okay, so here are some new legislation that is being entered into the record, and I'm just going to track these things as they come in, and I just want you to know, because this is what your government is looking at.
So there is a new House resolution, and I've always wondered about this.
This is to establish a grant program, i.e.
money, for automated external defibrillators in schools.
And I've always wondered about this, because I see these things at airports.
I see them all over the place.
Do we know of any substantial number of people who have been saved or created by these defibrillators that are everywhere, apparently?
Or is this just some giant medical device scam that is just continuing?
I mean, does this really happen that we need to have defibrillators everywhere in public spaces?
When did this start?
I don't know.
Now that you mention it, maybe it gets used once.
It must be used once in a while.
Yeah, but there's a lot of them.
Now we need them in schools?
What, like kids are getting heart attacks?
Well, that doesn't make any sense, but a teacher could.
Yeah, but it seems like a big expense.
How many people really get like, oh!
And how many people can actually use it?
Can you imagine some teacher keeling over and then one of the kids grabbing this thing and then putting it on her head?
And then jolting her brain?
I mean, come on.
No, but when I read this, I'm thinking, why do they have these everywhere?
I've seen them at airports, and it's like I've never really heard of...
What is this, honey?
Do I have to look at this right now?
I can't.
I'm doing a show, and you want me to read your Facebook?
No, then go away.
What is this?
Are you nuts?
Another Facebook addict.
She's like putting something in front of me.
I don't care.
The show's been going on too long.
Look at my Facebook page.
Exactly.
Honey, just...
I liked something.
I clicked the like button.
All right.
Second bill.
To authorize the Secretary of Homeland Security, acting through the Administrar of the Federal Emergency Management Agency, to make grants to state and local governments to assist in preparing for and responding to mass casualty incidents.
How about that?
What are they expecting?
No, I don't know.
It's not about expecting anything.
It's about giving money.
No, it's just throwing money away.
This is why the economy is in the tank.
Exactly.
It's just throwing money.
It's like, let me tell you something.
So I got my local police department here.
Nice little town.
And there's, I go there one day, all the cop cars, all new cop cars, the big ones, the big giant cars with big giant battering rams on them and new light bars.
And they got like 12 of them.
Out of the blue.
And they make them stay there.
In the olden days, the police department, they have just a good cop car that did the job.
They don't have to go on high-speed chases or ram anything.
These are all SWAT team-like cars.
But they used to take the cars home, and then they'd get in the car and drive.
It's the way the government work should be done.
I'm a big advocate of this.
You take the car home.
It's not like an old 1920s movie where they...
And then all these cars come out of the garage.
Meow!
The black and whites.
That's not what happens anymore.
We don't do it that way.
The black and whites.
The black and whites.
Here they come.
This is just money, money, money, money.
It's unbelievable.
Well, there's more where that came from.
Here's one I thought was actually interesting.
This goes right along with the mental health issue that we clearly have in America.
And what we need more pharmaceutical drugs for.
This is H.R. 6712.
To require the disclosure to parents of information regarding mental illness treatment for their children under the age of 26.
That's clearly related to gun culture, I'm sure.
Oh yeah.
The kid, our child, has asked if he could get a.22 rifle and we're concerned that this may lead to bigger weaponry.
Alright, now here's one from the Federal Register.
And this kind of surprised me.
Did you know...
Well, no, you didn't know.
So Russia has been admitted to the World Trade Organization.
This happened in August.
Yeah, we talked about it.
So now our president has proclaimed, as reported in the Federal Register...
A proclamation.
You have not seen this on the news anywhere, I guarantee you.
The Russian Federation has been found to be in full compliance with the freedom of immigration requirements under Title IV of the Trade Act, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Therefore, pursuant to Section 102A, public blah, blah, blah, blah, should no longer apply to the Russian Federation.
Essentially, I therefore, Barack Obama, President of the United States, by virtue of the authority vested in me, blah, blah, blah, blah, proclaim that.
Non-discriminatory treatment, i.e.
normal trade relations treatment, shall be extended to the products of the Russian Federation, which shall no longer be subject to Chapter 1, Title 4 of the 1974 Act.
So we have apparently...
Without much to do, have just opened up the entire United States to all Russian products.
Oh, that's sweet.
But this is, I find this highly interesting.
Maybe this was, remember when they had that open mic thing?
When he was talking to Medvedev and he said, hey man, I'll have more flexibility after I'm elected.
Maybe this is it.
Who knows what we're going to have now?
Who knows what Russian products are going to have?
Well, I know what we should have.
What?
Russian electronic gear using tubes.
They still make tube amps, I believe, and they still make tubes.
Most of the tubes, you have an old tube set or a modern tube amplifier like Audio Research.
You load them up with Russian tubes.
Yeah.
And that concludes our tracking the bullcrap segment.
I've got information, man.
New shit has come to mind.
The yeas are zero and the nays are 414.
The amendment is not adopted.
There you go.
I think we can make that a jingle.
I think we can work that out.
Oh, maybe.
I got other stuff to find.
Going back to the...
There's another story.
Looking back on these old clips.
This is the first quarter of 2012, by the way.
I ran into a lot Yes, of course I remember.
Robert F. Kennedy Jr.'s estranged wife, Mary, has been found dead at her home in New York State.
The cause of her death is unknown.
Her former husband is the nephew of President John F. Kennedy and son of Senator Robert F. Kennedy, who were both assassinated in the 1960s.
Our Washington correspondent Jonathan Blake explains what's known about the death.
Police in Bedford, New York, which is a few hours' drive north of New York City, have said that a body was found at a home belonging to Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
and his former wife Mary earlier this afternoon.
They have not confirmed reports that it was Mary Kennedy and they have not confirmed or denied reports that the body was found in Bedford.
An apparent suicide, and one news organization, ABC News here in the United States, reporting that Mary Kennedy was found hanged.
Yeah, I remember that.
Well, you know, I think what's happened here is, you know, another Kennedy, another woman killed near the Kennedys, no investigation, like, what else is new?
This happens every decade.
Another story that got my attention, which is another one.
This one, talk about something falling off the map.
It became a big meme with a bunch of bullcrap hits on YouTube that we all believe were done by robots, so the thing is never a big deal.
And then it ended in the most bizarre way, which is the Coney dude running around berserk and naked.
The man behind the popular online video calling for the arrest of Ugandan rebel leader Joseph Kony has been detained and taken to hospital in the U.S. Jason Russell and his charity Invisible Children made the film Kony 2012.
Witnesses say he was seen naked and screaming at drivers in San Diego in California.
His group says the controversy surrounding the video has taken an emotional toll on Russell.
Several residents in the neighborhood were very concerned about a male that they described as a white male in his late 20s that was acting strangely.
There were various stages of undress that were described, you know, that he was wearing underwear, that he was naked, that kind of thing, that he was running into the roadway, that he was interfering with traffic, screaming and that kind of thing.
Officers responded to the welfare check, did contact the man, and he was no problem for the police department.
However, during the evaluation with him, we did learn that we probably needed to take care of him, so the officers detained him and transported him to a local medical facility for further evaluation and treatment.
Yeah, I remember he was jerking off on the...
In the intersection.
That was fantastic.
And it does fit in with some news that came out this week.
YouTube, John, I don't know if you caught this, has essentially penalized the music business and removed hundreds of millions of hits from their YouTube videos for a lot of their artists because they were all bogative.
Hello?
I'm here?
Yeah.
I thought you were going to a clip.
No, no, no.
So I'm saying that this Coney thing, the first thing we said was, oh, that's bogus, all those hits.
And of course, what happens is the story started coming.
Remember there was like a weekend of everyone saying, oh my God, it's viral, it's a viral sensation!
Then, of course, it really started to get hits because people were like, oh, let's go check this thing out, whatever's going on.
But yeah, it was totally gamed.
And we're kind of seeing the proof now that YouTube is now going back and penalizing people for fake hits.
Oh, good.
It's about time.
Hundreds of millions of hits.
But I would love to go.
We should figure out what happened to that guy.
Well, you know, here's the thing.
At this time of year, all these news networks have all these retrospectives.
They won't bring any of this stuff up.
They're not going to talk about Mary Kennedy being hanged this year.
They're not going to talk about the Coney phenomenon this year.
They're not going to do any of this stuff.
They're especially not going to talk about that school in Cleveland or the Cleveland area.
It's just amazing to me.
And the one story, of course, that they never bring up, which is the one that was...
It gets brought up only by Democracy Now!
And the clip of it, and we bring this up constantly, but the clip that you want to play is Jim Crow Lives.
Okay.
Today there are more African Americans under correctional control, whether in prison or jail, on probation or on parole, than there were enslaved in 1850.
And more African American men are disenfranchised now because of felon disenfranchisement laws than in 1870.
A legal scholar and civil rights advocate, Michelle Alexander, has argued in her recent book that although Jim Crow laws have been eliminated, the racial caste system it's set up remains intact.
It's simply been redesigned and now racial control functions through the criminal justice system.
You know, when people are released from prison and have a criminal record, they are discriminated against for the rest of their life in employment.
For the rest of their life, they've got to check that box on employment applications, knowing that application is likely going straight to the trash.
Sometimes not even convicted if, say, you were arrested.
Yes, absolutely.
And in public housing, you can be barred from public housing just based on an arrest.
You don't even have to be convicted.
People returning home from prison want to return to their children or their families.
Their families risk eviction just by allowing their loved ones to come home to them.
Under federal law, you're deemed ineligible for food stamps for the rest of your life if you've been convicted of a drug felony.
Unfortunately, many states have now opted out of the federal ban on food stamps for drug offenders, but it's still the case that thousands of people can't even get food stamps because they were once caught with drugs.
That's right.
That's right.
No, why should we mention that?
The only people who mention that are the Chinese and Russia, who say that we are huge human rights offenders.
And then, you know, of course, everyone goes, oh, you stupid Ruskies.
Oh, you Chiners don't say that about us?
Well, the Chinese do have a point, because we call them, oh, they're running prison camps and labor camps, and the numbers don't bear it out.
We're the ones with the prison camps, and we're the ones that have federal companies, or companies with the name Federal in them, that buy prisoners to work for 10 cents an hour.
You're telling me Federal Express has prisoners?
No, maybe.
Let me do it before you, because I know you want to do a few more of these to round out the year, and I think that's a good idea.
Let me give you just a couple of reports here from Euroland, where things, of course, are not going well, as you know.
The Lagarde's List, which is also, I would say, not really covered well in the United States at all, is still on fire there in Greece.
Actually so?
Politicians from a number of parties are calling for the law that protects ministers in Greece from prosecution not to apply to former finance minister George Papa Constantinou.
The 51-year-old, who negotiated the country's bailout in 2010, is accused of removing the names of three of his relatives from the so-called Lagarde list.
How awesome was it going there?
I mean, those guys...
Oh, man!
It was like three of his family members, all called Constantinou, Propayou, whatever, and just take them off the list.
Ah, fantastic.
What's great now, though, is there is kind of like an alternative economy It's starting to crop up in Greece, as happens, you know, people are survivors, and since they can't afford heating oil anymore...
Bad news for austerity-stricken Greeks is also proving to be bad news for the environment, specifically the air quality in Athens.
Wood has soared in popularity, with many of the city's residents using it to heat their houses.
So they're just burning wood now.
People are burning wood in their houses and it's causing like this smoke over there.
What, are they just putting up a fire in the middle of the living room?
I guess they must have something, but they're cold.
They're cold over here, so they're just burning wood.
But the soccer teams have resorted to a new form of sponsorship, which is quite innovative.
The beautiful game has a colorful new backer.
In tough times, who else to turn to but the local brothel?
An unconventional sponsor, but Villa Erotica has kept the team on the pitch.
For matches, the players must tone down with neutral shirts.
The coach, though, says football is full of much shadier sponsors.
So they've got the local brothel sponsoring the...
The local soccer team.
They have to wear pink and say hookers on the back.
It says Villa Erotica.
That's very funny.
I like it.
I think that's great.
We should have that even in non-austere times.
We should have it all the time.
Why not?
They're a commercial operation.
It's legal in some parts of the world.
We're not a commercial outfit, but I wouldn't mind if we had a brothel sponsoring the show or donating.
We need some brothel donations in more ways than one, if you know what I'm saying.
Hey, wink, wink, nudge, nudge, say no more.
What do you mean?
You just got back from up north.
Now what do I do?
So I got a couple more here to round out the year.
Okay.
The one at the top, the Kidding Me one, I can't remember what it is, but it's short.
You might as well play that.
Which one is it?
The one at the top says, are you kidding me?
Oh, yes.
Okay, got it.
Also, believe it or not, there's an app for apes, an outreach group for ratings and iPads to zoos all over the country.
The primates are using them to paint and to color, and scientists hope that they'll eventually Skype with apes at other zoos.
Are you kidding me?
You know, do you ever see what an ape does with Samsonite luggage?
Yeah.
What are they going to do with these pads?
I remember this.
When this clip came out, wasn't that just a blatant promotion for the iPad?
Wasn't that what we deconstructed it to be?
It's a very old clip.
I don't think this is from 2012.
I think it's older.
No, it is from 2012.
Really?
I thought it was older.
I think it might have been January.
Oh, wow.
And then I have another one, which is kind of interesting.
This was kind of depressing.
This is Holder, our Attorney General, rationalizing at a speech in Northwestern, and this came again in the first quarter of this year, rationalizing us, the President, and his kill list.
report.
I'm Amy Goodman.
The Obama administration has offered its most expansive defense to date of its policy authorizing the assassination of U.S. citizens abroad.
In a speech at Chicago's Northwestern University, Attorney General Eric Holder outlined what the White House billed as the legal rationale for its claimed right to kill U.S. citizens who belong to Al-Qaeda or associated forces.
Holder said it's preferable to capture suspected terrorists when possible, but claimed the government also reserves the right to use lethal force.
Specifically, Holder said the U.S. can target those who play an operational role in attacks that pose an imminent threat.
We must also recognize that there are instances where our government has the clear authority, and I would argue the responsibility, to defend the United States through the appropriate and lawful use of lethal force. - This principle has long been established under both U.S. and international law.
In response to the attacks perpetrated and the continuing threat posed by al-Qaeda, the Taliban, and associated forces, Congress has authorized the President to use all necessary and appropriate force against those groups.
Because the United States is in an armed conflict, we are authorized to take action against enemy belligerents under international law.
The Constitution empowers the President to protect the nation from any imminent threat of violent attack.
And international law recognizes the inherent right of national self-defense.
None of this is changed by the fact that we are not in a conventional war.
Win, lose, or drone!
That's right.
Oh yeah, no one talks about that anymore.
No, and you don't see it in the retrospectives on the media.
They won't talk about Holder going on about this, or even the fact that we killed that guy.
And the thing is, he says the Taliban is like a direct threat?
Yes.
A direct threat to the nation?
While you're on that for just one second, just under the BBC... And I caught a bit of this.
I just want to play the opening.
They did a whole panorama.
It's a pretty good BBC show.
They did a whole thing about drone warfare in Waziristan, which, of course, we called, before you ever heard of it before in your life, we said, watch for this Waziristan, which is where the pipeline crosses Pakistan.
Yeah, you spotted that one way early.
Okay.
All you have to do is just see where they're laying the pipe.
Follow the pipeline.
So here's the BBC, but they don't ask the central question.
It's the weapon that kills its target by remote control thousands of miles away.
It's a very humane type of warfare given the ugliness and the killing that warfare entails.
America says its drones are destroying Al-Qaeda, protecting Western lives.
It's great.
There's a Taliban shooting into the air.
My favorite.
This thing is kept on a very tight leash.
But the drones are killing civilians, women and children as well.
As children lose their lives, then the battle for the hearts and minds is immediately lost.
Tonight, the secret war that angered a whole nation.
Is it making us any safer?
This is completely counterproductive.
It actually helps the militants to recruit people.
So what they don't ask, and I watch this whole thing, it's in the show notes, 474.nashownotes.com, they don't actually ask why we're droning people in Waziristan.
So you listen to No Agenda, you know why.
It's protecting the pipeline.
But there's no question whatsoever about why this is happening and how in the world this can make any difference to us here.
And by the way, it's not a declared war.
This is not even the Army.
It's the CIA doing this stuff.
Oh, I'm sorry.
That would be wrong to have that in our retrospective.
Can't have that.
And I like the use of the word humane.
How is it humane?
Well, we don't make you suffer.
We just kill you right out.
Unbelievable.
The last clip I'll play just so we don't get too boring.
These retrospectives are...
It's nice to look back.
If I had known that you were going to do this, I would have done some music.
We could have done...
We can do it like Don Lemon does.
2012 was really a fantastic year.
And then we could do all kinds...
Charlie Sheen freaked out.
Remember that?
Winning, winning, winning.
Oh yeah, we could have put Charlie Sheen in.
There's also the one, I do have a clip of it.
Lindsay Lohan did Dick and Liz and really sucked and went crazy.
The one that I think you may have forgotten is the clip, which is here, is where they go to Haiti To bring in deworming medicine for the children of Haiti.
While the Clintons are building their hotel on the north side, kids have worms like dogs.
It's been great to be able to help out Aaron Jackson in planting peace by doing some fundraisers.
I've gotten to introduce him to people and help raise money and just help his organization really get moving.
He's the amazing guy who's doing all the really hard work and, you know, give him the cash and just let him go do what he does best.
They have four or five orphanages in Haiti, and I also went out when they distributed the deworming medication out in the rural villages and towns.
You're distributing food, aid, all around the country.
So many kids can be, you know, eating their fill, but because they're so filled with worms, they're unable to digest and process that food, so it's really just kind of a waste.
You deworm a kid and the worms shoot out within usually 24 to 48 hours.
Meanwhile, this just in, the U.S. State Department, as of today, is warning against travel to Haiti because of recent reports of killings, robbery, and infectious disease.
Ottawa is also urging Canadians to exercise a, quote, high degree of caution because of high crime rates in various parts of Haiti.
Look at the gall of these people.
Look at the gall of these people.
It's amazing.
Yeah, and now, meanwhile, the hotels are open, the cruise ships are arriving.
You know, you can go to Haiti as long as it's in an organized fashion, and you stay in one of these sanctioned hotels.
This is basically saying, don't go on your own, Shittison.
No, no, no, no, no.
And finally, the last clip would be this die, die, die clip, which is a Facebook post, which again needs some, you know, I'd like to see this kind of retrospective elsewhere.
...shooter are just now emerging.
Classmates described Lane as an outcast who'd been bullied.
It's unclear why he allegedly opened fire, but in late December, he posted a poem on his Facebook page that read...
He longed for one thing, the world to bow at his feet, and ended ominously, die, all of you.
Another uplifting sub-tech story.
I think that was the kid in Cleveland.
Oh, okay.
Die!
I don't think I quite remember that one.
Oh my goodness.
Well, that's it, John.
Apparently we find things more interesting than the mainstream media as it comes to retrospective of the year past.
We have a very twisted sense of importance, apparently.
We have a sense of, it's not even twisted, it's what people really should, you know, be thinking about and analyzing and trying to figure out what is it they're trying to, what wool, what type of wool are they trying to pull over our eyes and why?
And I think from the beginning of this show, like the item you mentioned with the credit card thing being a scam so you can keep the high interest rates and they don't get stuck with the fraud charges, there's a classic example that's not discussed.
Exactly.
Well, we hope to do a lot more of the deconstruction for you in 2013.
John, do you have any New Year's resolutions since I won't speak to you until the new year?
Oh, I don't know.
Yeah, clean my office.
All right.
Well, I wish you a very safe transition, my friend.
Thank you.
Stay away from those Russian hookers.
And I hope that you're back in Austin by the end of January.
Yeah, wouldn't that be nice?
Well, we're hoping that as well, and we thank everyone for hoping along with us and supporting the best podcast in the universe.
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