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	If I was an onerous, tyrannical government, I'd do it.
	Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak.
	It's Sunday, December 9th, 2012.
	Time for your Gitmo Nation media assassination episode 468.
	This is No Agenda.
	Coming to you from the soccer-killing fields of Gitmo Nation lowlands in Amsterdam in the morning, everybody.
	I'm Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley, where I wait and wait to do the show, and here I am.
	I'm John C. Dvorak.
	I hate it.
	I just hate it.
	I really hate it, okay?
	I really hate, hate, hate it!
	How you doing there in Europe?
	Yeah, I'm really...
	I hate it.
	I hate it.
	I cannot stand when whatever happens, I'm on this crappy-ass mobile setup.
	It sounds like poop in my head.
	It's just horrible.
	I'm not well today.
	I'm very, very annoyed.
	You sure it's the sound?
	No, it could just be poop in my head.
	But it's just like, you know, I'm...
	We spent at least 20 minutes before the show trying to make it so that John couldn't hear himself feeding back.
	When I'm talking now, I sound so distorted in my headphones.
	I don't know if we're even recording properly.
	And on top of that, because of the way this little miniature desk is set up, It is too far away for me to see without my glasses, but too close for me to see with my glasses, so I can't actually read anything.
	Sounds comedic.
	It's not comedic.
	So where are you?
	The same place?
	No, no, no, no, no.
	Okay, update.
	Update.
	Wait a minute.
	We've got an update!
	Here's the update.
	So we're in our own place now.
	And I have to say, producers, human resources, all extremely, extremely nice.
	Very, very helpful.
	I've really done a great job.
	You know what?
	I've got to turn this down.
	This can't be right.
	This has got to be...
	You know, I'm going to listen to...
	Damn!
	Sorry.
	I just get so frustrated.
	And can someone on the stream just tell me if my voice is distorted or not?
	Because all I hear is...
	Here, I'll tell you.
	Here's what it sounds like in my headphone, John.
	That sounds like a loose connection.
	That's actually a pretty good imitation of a loose connection.
	Yeah, well, that's what it sounds like in my headphones right now.
	That was good.
	See, you sound really good, but I sound like...
	Oh, that sounds...
	I think that's just fine.
	That's fantastic.
	Okay, so, no.
	Everyone has been really nice, been very, very kind.
	Everyone's offered us varying from you can sleep in my car to you can sleep...
	Don't they have to, in Holland, don't they have to do that just by law?
	What?
	To be nice?
	To be nice.
	Yeah, I think it's a prerequisite.
	People have offered, you know, their sped bedrooms.
	A lot of people very saddened by the fact that I was so harsh on Rotterdam.
	Apparently, we have a lot of listeners in the Rotterdam area who are like, okay, well, you probably don't want to hang out with us.
	You know, when I took my grand tour of Holland with Jan Ailman of Servoy, who took me all over the place, and we went to a couple of Rotterdam restaurants and hung out there for a day, I thought it was a fine town.
	Well, yeah, it is, but it's not Amsterdam.
	If you're from Amsterdam, then, you know, I know my way around here.
	Anyway, so, we're in our own place.
	We've rented a place, and it's very, very small for two tall people.
	Low ceilings?
	Yeah, yes.
	It has low ceilings, very narrow doorways.
	It's not home.
	It sounds like it's from the 1600s.
	Yes, 1690, I'm sure.
	You know, it's like, it's not home.
	Everything is just a little...
	We're getting used to stuff.
	On top of that, Mickey is now at the emergency room with some kind of infection, some bladder infection or some crap.
	It's like, this is not good.
	It's not been a good week.
	No wonder you're so uptight.
	You know, if you have a bladder infection and you don't know it, you know what happens?
	You get really, really sick.
	Yeah, you throw up.
	A lot.
	Yeah.
	I had a bladder infection about 25 years ago.
	I mean, get him too.
	Or his urinary tract or something.
	I don't know.
	And you get sick as a dog.
	Your stomach hurts and you throw on up and you can't figure out what it is.
	You go to the doctor and then they, you know...
	Exactly.
	Mickey's like...
	And then they give you a pill and you're good.
	Yeah, I know.
	So Mickey's like...
	I don't feel so good.
	I'm like, wait a minute.
	I show up and now you don't feel good?
	She's been so sick and we can't figure it out.
	And then she texts me before the show starts and says, oh yeah, I have a bladder infection.
	Don't you know where the bladder infection normally is?
	Isn't it a burning sensation?
	Well, apparently it doesn't have to be that way.
	No, that's the irony.
	Yeah.
	So the poor girl has been deathly ill.
	I've been schlepping her around.
	Anyway, so we'll be much better by tomorrow.
	I hope.
	And then on top of that, you know, it's like, it's really weird to be in the Netherlands for a number of reasons.
	One of which is, I can't get used to the paparazzi thing.
	It's like, I'm not interested.
	They're still going on?
	I should have tipped them off early when you went over there and I maybe picked up some coin for the show.
	Well, you should have picked up some coin.
	This is what I can't believe.
	You didn't even think of that.
	We did, but then we just didn't have it.
	I don't have the wherewith.
	Look at you paparazzi out there.
	Hey.
	I'll tip you off on where this guy is.
	Give me some contact information on what you'll pay.
	Seriously.
	John at Dvorak.org.
	The thing is, they don't pay crap.
	They don't pay anything.
	I'll tell you, a hundred bucks is good to go.
	You can probably get a hundred.
	That's for sure.
	Wait, let me get this straight.
	So you step outside to go to the store?
	No.
	Is some douchebag with a camera taking your picture?
	Well, worse.
	It's like I'm bringing my wife, who is not feeling well.
	She looks like death warmed over.
	So she looks like crap, yeah.
	Yeah.
	It's just, and women don't like their picture taken when they're not looking good.
	This whole thing has been very, very stressful.
	Very stressful.
	And of course, there's also like a million people like, you know, now everyone knows we're here.
	It's like, my family's like, well, thanks for not calling.
	It's like, ugh.
	Oh yeah, yeah, I just put you in there.
	You should have, you should have picked up Mickey immediately and gone right straight to Vienna.
	I got some places, by the way.
	I really appreciate that, but she's been ill.
	She actually just texted me.
	She's getting whatever medication.
	She'll be coming home.
	I couldn't even take her to the emergency room myself because of the show.
	Anyway, the paparazzi thing is kind of annoying, but there are a couple of things I've noticed here in the Netherlands that are disturbing.
	The number one thing, you know what, even if you're in New York City, and you're walking down the street, it's a busy street, and someone bumps into you, what's going to happen?
	Well, generally they say sorry or something.
	Right, exactly.
	Here, nothing.
	Half the people are zombified.
	People just bumping into each other, not saying anything?
	They're zombified.
	They bump in, so someone like really bumped into me, and they just kept walking.
	And I was like, oh, I'm sorry.
	And these people...
	Now, it's not everybody, but it's a large amount of people who are walking on the street here are zombies.
	Certified!
	I'm just like, wow!
	They don't care.
	They're just walking through people.
	They have this thousand-yard stare on them.
	It's really frightening.
	Then you've got the other half of the people who apparently have no job.
	They're just sitting in the cafes all day.
	The cafes are filled!
	On Friday!
	Like, do these people have no job?
	No.
	All day?
	Yeah, they're just sitting in the cafes, drinking.
	I mean, coffee, you know, coffee, tea, having a tea, having a beer.
	They've got nothing to do.
	It's disturbing.
	It sounds hilarious.
	It's very, very, it's surreal is what it is.
	It really is.
	And I don't know if I've ever seen it like this.
	It's just there's something going.
	And now there is a lot of, of course, they're in the middle of austerity here.
	And the TV news, besides everyone talking about a lack of respect in general in society, as they say.
	Well, if they're bumping into you, you're not saying, excuse me, or sorry, or something.
	This is what's interesting, because the big topic of the day is respect, because these three, or now maybe four, 15, 16-year-old little soccer players kicked this referee to death.
	Everyone's like, there's just no respect in society.
	Like, yeah, no kidding!
	And then you get this zombification on the street thing.
	It's like, wow, this is very, very intense.
	I don't know if it's just the lowlands or if it's other places in Europe.
	Hopefully we can travel around a bit and find out.
	But in the middle of the austerity stuff, people are...
	You know, it's funny to see how the government is just telling them that they're slaves and shut up and pay more taxes and everyone's health insurance is going up.
	Oh, by the way, not like our health insurance is covering Mickey going to the emergency room.
	That was funny.
	It's like, okay, honey, I've learned one thing.
	We've got to call the insurance before you go.
	Okay.
	And everywhere, on the card, on the website, call 1-800-FRICKIN'-FRICKIN' BLUE. You can't call an 800 number from overseas.
	No, they should have the alternative number on that.
	Nope.
	Do not have it.
	Do not have it.
	That's a good one.
	And then you call and it's like, well, we're just the weekend guys.
	We don't have your dossier.
	In fact, no one you call will actually have your dossier for your own privacy, of course.
	So what you're going to have to do is you're going to have to pay for everything and then we're going to send you a claim form and, well, if you're lucky, if you're lucky, then you might get something reimbursed.
	What is this, Obamacare?
	Well, doesn't she have a Dutch passport?
	Yeah, but it doesn't give you insurance.
	There's no national insurance here.
	Oh, I thought there was.
	No, no, no, no.
	Oh, so it's the same scam they're pulling on us.
	Oh, yeah.
	Oh, yeah.
	Oh, it's worse.
	In fact, what's happening here is exactly what's going to happen in the States.
	You know, first it's all groovy and all good, and you think it's righteous, and now everyone's getting screwed.
	Now you have to pay more according to how much you make.
	I mean, it's not okay here.
	You know, talking about that, so this week in San Francisco, the Board of Supervisors decided...
	Or I guess it was Muni in San Francisco.
	They decided, you know, we think that it's unfair that seniors get a discount and students get a discount.
	It should be done on the basis of income.
	Yeah, well, there you go.
	So you should have cheaper fares for low income.
	Yeah.
	And higher fares for people who are really loaded, who normally wouldn't be taking the idiotic bus.
	So essentially, anyone who can afford not to take the bus will now not be able to afford to take the bus.
	So when you get on the bus, there's going to be a bunch of, literally, poor people going around on the bus because it's damn near free, and they'll be just living in the bus.
	Instead of being homeless, they'll be in the bus.
	Well...
	And they think this is a good idea?
	Yeah.
	The world is...
	I really have to sit down and calm myself sometimes because in all my 48 years, I don't think I've ever felt about the world...
	Maybe it's because of December 21st.
	In fact, I'd prefer the whole thing just end on the 21st.
	December 21st.
	Just put us out of our misery, please.
	This is horrible.
	There's no way to live.
	December 21st.
	Yeah, you know when the Mayan calendar ends.
	You know what I'm talking about.
	Well, I think it's part of just the depression cycle, the 40-year cycle where we have a depression, which began, of course, in 2008, a little early, six months early, but it's still 2008, 2009.
	And I've always, you know, what causes the depression, you know, the economic depression?
	I think it's an actual, I think the depression is a good word because I think during these cycles people literally get depressed.
	Yeah.
	They don't feel like buying anything.
	Maybe they celebrate the holidays, and then they get depressed after the holidays, and then another year's gone by, and they haven't cleaned their office.
	Another year's gone by, they haven't finished the cycle book.
	Another year's gone by, they haven't...
	Wait a minute!
	Hey, wait a minute!
	I haven't finished the cycle book!
	Oh, no!
	Well, I'll tell you...
	Yesterday, I will say, it was beautiful.
	It was one of those beautiful, cold, crisp Dutch days.
	You have them once every 18 years, where the sun is shining, but it's nice and crispy cold, and the market was there, and everything was kind of really idyllic.
	Have you ever seen the Dutch street organ?
	Have you ever been here when the street organ goes by?
	No.
	So it's kind of hard.
	Maybe if you Google it, you'll see a picture of a Dutch street organ, and they used to literally have the big, almost like the piano rolls that you'd put through.
	And it also controls little figurines on the outside.
	And then a figurine pops out of a door and then hits a bell.
	And it's a very, very picturesque...
	These big, giant ones.
	You know, I may have seen one of these things.
	They're the size of a trailer.
	Yeah, and they're narrow, but they are about the size of a trailer.
	And so these things have a very typical sound.
	And so we're walking through...
	No, no.
	Well, that's a little more typical Dutch.
	And so we're walking through the market, which is, I mean, the Dutch market is really nice, and you've got this cold, crisp day, and you've got the really, you know, the fantastic sunshine.
	But the thing is playing Havre Nagila.
	I'm like, this makes no sense!
	I'm not kidding!
	And then it played, like, some Turkish thing, and it's like, what?
	Where am I? Having a gila from a Dutch organ?
	This is not right.
	It's supposed to be...
	You know, not like...
	I don't know where I am.
	I don't know what's going on.
	That's hilarious.
	And today it was just rain and dark.
	Why don't you go up to the guy and say, can you program me in Stairway to Heaven?
	Freebird, man.
	Play some Freebird.
	Freebird.
	Driving me nuts.
	Crazy.
	Anyway, good news.
	We were completely wrong about the coffee shops.
	You know, I thought the weed pass and everything, that that was a national thing.
	Apparently, that was only in the south of the country.
	On Rotterdam.
	No, below Rotterdam.
	And coffee shops are still wide open for business.
	Even if you're just coming over from the UK or whatever, there's no problem.
	You can still grab your weed.
	Everything's all good.
	Oh, man, I'm hearing myself slapping back through your speakers like no one else's business.
	Don't worry.
	Don't change anything.
	We'll just have to deal with it.
	Position the mic.
	But it's funny because I've mentioned this to a couple of people.
	They're like, yeah, we heard about that.
	We heard that in America people think that you can't buy weed anymore.
	I said, yeah.
	Yeah, let's just say that.
	Because you told them that.
	No, that was...
	Come on.
	That's the reporting that even I, just from what I read and what I understood...
	Yeah, it's the bogus reporting that we get in this country.
	Hello?
	But the bogus reporting was coming from the Dutch media themselves?
	Okay, so I'm going to have to go out and buy a mixer and a preamp and all kinds of stuff.
	I cannot live with the sound that I... I mean, I live to make this the best podcast in the universe.
	I live to make it sound right, and this is just so way below any quality.
	Ugh.
	I hate my life.
	Well, with that in mind...
	What?
	So what's new besides the kick death of the referee?
	Okay, what is new is as of...
	Well, first it was as of the first of the year.
	Now they've moved it to April.
	But most people...
	So the housing market here has pretty much collapsed.
	And most people here...
	There was a real boom, a real bubble.
	Because it's very normal in the Netherlands, or it was very normal, to get an interest-only mortgage.
	Which is, I think, kind of atypical in the world.
	So everybody here is only paying interest, which means they've got nice houses way above their means.
	But now the government, as part of the austerity program that has been brought to you by Brussels, has said, well, you're not going to be able to deduct that anymore.
	And we're going to start that January 1st.
	So people are freaking out.
	Now they all have to convert to mortgages where you are paying for some interest but also some of the principal.
	And of course it's not like all the deduction is going away.
	But it is changing.
	And so people are freaking out.
	And no one is changing the...
	The whole housing market is just in irons.
	It's just not moving.
	And that's really hurting people because a lot of people would use the value in their homes to live and to take vacations and do all kinds of extra stuff.
	It becomes a growing asset.
	Yeah, it's a real problem.
	And you can really tell that people are just messed up over it.
	Well, just to bring it back again, the alternative minimum tax, which is going to go into effect for 2012 as of January 1st, because of these idiots that want to take us over the fiscal cliff, and I have a couple of clips of some of the idiots.
	If you're one of the 30 million Americans who will be stuck with this, you will not be able to take off your interest from your mortgage.
	Let me ask you a question about this fiscal cliff, because I did a little bit of research today, and The reason for the fiscal cliff, so that we have these taxes, these tax cuts which are going to expire, the whole thing about having more taxes in general, and it's not just taxes but a trillion dollars in cuts, and just basically...
	Is this to repay some of the $16 trillion that the United States owes?
	Is that why we're doing this?
	I just need to understand.
	No, no.
	Originally done as a...
	We don't want to do it.
	It was originally done as a...
	Okay, we've got these financial problems that we have to fix.
	We have a debt ceiling issue that hasn't been fully resolved, which should be just eliminated, in my opinion.
	The Republicans are against that because they're afraid the Democrats are going to spend us into oblivion, which may or may not be true.
	Anyway, they had all these unresolved issues.
	Okay, here's what we're going to do.
	We have to resolve all this.
	This was in 2011, by the way.
	We have to resolve all this, and what is going to be the impetus to resolve it?
	Well...
	But hold on, but I'm asking a different question.
	Why do we have to resolve all this?
	As it turns out, of the $16 trillion that we owe, or that, you know, only like a trillion three is owed to China, the rest is all owed to, you know, entitlement...
	People who think they're going to get some money when they retire.
	Some Medicare crap.
	Who cares about sick people?
	I don't see really why we're trying to do anything for them.
	And the rest is to the Federal Reserve, i.e.
	the private banks.
	We owe it to ourselves.
	I always thought we owed all this money to other countries, but it's not.
	From what I can understand, it's just going to us.
	We're repaying banks and bull crap.
	Most of our debt is to ourselves.
	That's true.
	Well, then screw it.
	Why don't we just borrow some more from ourselves?
	What do we care?
	Hey, you're talking to the guy who thinks we should be printing more money.
	What are you doing here?
	Yeah.
	Well, I'm waking up into it.
	I'm like, this is crazy.
	I mean, obviously...
	Is it just the banks who are just like, hey, let's screw these human resources.
	Blow these slaves.
	Let's just take all their money now.
	There's a bunch of bookkeepers involved that feel that this is not...
	The word is it's not sustainable.
	It has to be resolved sooner than later.
	And I don't know.
	I mean, I'm just telling you what the genesis of the thing is.
	I'm not saying it's good or bad.
	Right.
	All I can tell you is this.
	If you listen to these a-holes who don't care about anybody but themselves, but play the Sean Hannity clip.
	Just play the Sean Hannity clip.
	Here's one of the many foxholes who wants to push us over the cliff.
	He thinks it's a great idea.
	It's time that Republicans have the courage of their convictions.
	It is simply immoral to continue to steal from future generations with out-of-control deficits and now record debt.
	Now, going over this cliff to prevent the country from going bankrupt would be, under these circumstances, I argue, a very noble endeavor.
	A noble goal.
	See, very noble.
	Very noble.
	I can't believe you watch...
	That's the one thing.
	I'm really happy I don't have to watch any of that crap.
	There's no lame-ass CNN here.
	They got CNN International.
	And CNN International, all they have is Avon commercials.
	I'm sorry.
	It's disguised as a profile about Avon in South Africa.
	But it's essentially a half-hour commercial.
	There's no Fox News.
	There's Comedy Central...
	Which has, you know, reasonably recent episodes of American comedic series and Jon Stewart.
	And it's just, there's no, there is no news.
	You can get out there and get the pulse of the nation.
	Talking about Comedy Central, just as a segue, so the Democracy Now!
	woman is in Doha at the climate change thing, and she made this funny observation, which we're talking to a couple of...
	I think there is the logo of this conference is a C within another C for climate change.
	If they just turn the C around, it looks very much like Comedy Central, the actual logo.
	And that's painful given the seriousness of this issue.
	Wow, that's some stellar, stellar journalistic reporting right there, ladies and gentlemen.
	Yeah, well, this is probably the funniest thing she's ever said.
	Yeah.
	But I think I could be wrong, but I'm always suspicious that somebody didn't do this on purpose.
	No, that wouldn't surprise me.
	It really wouldn't.
	Oh, shit, yeah.
	There hasn't been.
	The only thing I saw on the news here about that was things aren't going well.
	You know, there's no progress in Doha.
	Don't they understand that the whole point, and by the way, that was the woman from Siemens.
	I wish I had a clip of that.
	I don't have any of my equipment here to clip stuff off of TV. The woman from Siemens who's like, yeah, we got all kinds of great stuff that we can implement.
	This is another big, huge bonanza.
	For whatever bull crap they're going to come up with, whatever legislation of stuff that has to be implemented.
	It's a gouge.
	Oh, my goodness.
	It really is.
	Alright, well that'll end it for today's show.
	And we'll be back again on...
	Good night everybody!
	Good seeing you!
	No, I did...
	Let's see.
	I have kind of figured out the Syria thing though.
	Something has changed.
	Something very dramatic has changed.
	Do you think it has to do with Putin's injury?
	No.
	Well, it has to do with Putin, but he's not injured, or at least he's not showing it, because he is showing up in some important places.
	Let me just run through for one second here.
	What do I have?
	I have, yeah, this was on, since we're talking about PBS, here's some analysts on PBS. Joking about the Russians, because it seems like there's been a little turn, where now, of course, we have this fake chemical weapons scare, and even the Russians are saying, oh, well, okay, well, then might as well go in there and put some boots on the ground.
	Where are they?
	Secretary Clinton met with the foreign minister of Russia a couple days ago.
	Obviously Russia has backed another loser, which is its propensity in these things.
	I love how on Democracy, this is PBS, like, ha ha, that's very funny.
	Russia, they backed another loser.
	And I think they even see that now, and probably the best case scenario is that there's some sort of a soft landing where Assad is offered an exile deal, gets out of the picture, and there's not a power vacuum created with him falling and being strung up on a lamppost, and then you start the retribution massacres, and it could really devolve into something extremely ugly.
	I love how it's like you start the retribution massacres, This is very easy with the language about who's starting one and who's doing who.
	And by the way, apparently there are now 400 million people in Syria who have been killed.
	That number changes every single second.
	Even after Assad goes.
	So the hope is Russia will finally get on board and be constructive here.
	The foreign minister said some kind of good things, but we'll see what Russia does.
	What does an intervention look like?
	Well, if they're chemical weapons used, I think intervention looks a lot like the air strikes that we used in Libya and in some other places.
	Which makes no sense to me at all.
	You're going to have an intervention, you're going to bomb the chemical weapon sites?
	Does this seem like a good idea to you, John?
	This seems very unsmart to me.
	I mean, seriously.
	Well, it gets better.
	To destroy some of those major stockpiles of chemical weapons.
	Yeah, we're going to destroy the stockpiles of chemical weapons.
	Hey, I know.
	Let's just blow up that stockpile of chemical weapons.
	What could possibly go wrong?
	If they start to lose control of them and lose fear that Hezbollah might get their hands on a terrorist group, I think he might...
	I like the new use of the word intervention.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Oh, man.
	It's so loud coming back.
	Um...
	Well, anyway, here's the big thing that changed.
	And this is what Putin was doing.
	And this is why I think the Russians are now backing off and going, you know what?
	You guys put the Al-Qaeda's in there.
	You guys armed all the rebels in there.
	Congratulations.
	Enjoy your time with that now because we're backing off because we don't need Syria anymore because we've got South Stream.
	Russian President Vladimir Putin was on hand to mark the start of construction of the South Stream gas pipeline, linking Russia with Europe.
	Gazprom, the state-run gas monopoly, will lay pipes under the Black Sea and via the Balkans.
	Bulgaria will act as a hub to access southern Europe, neatly avoiding problematic transit countries.
	We are now about to finalize a huge infrastructure project.
	In parallel with Nord Stream, through the Baltic Sea, South Stream, using the same system, will guarantee a sure way of delivering Russian gas to our key consumers in Europe.
	And this is Putin talking, obviously, with the translation.
	Disagreements on gas pricing with the Ukraine and Belarus has sometimes led to gas being cut off to certain regions in Europe.
	Now the hope is that Southern Europe will have a more dependable gas supply.
	So here's the big change.
	So they have now finally figured out how they're going to run the South Stream pipeline, which is the number one competitor to Nabucco.
	And if you look at the maps, and you see...
	Now we understand why Hillary Clinton was in the Balkans with...
	What's No Chin's name?
	What's her name again?
	Rumpoy?
	No, no, no.
	The woman.
	Rumpoy.
	Ashton.
	So what they were trying to do is try to block anything Russian.
	They don't want any Russian pipelines coming through.
	Now, of course, we have the gas coming from right above Georgia, which obviously explains the commander of NATO saying this.
	NATO, for its part, is committed to close relations with Georgia.
	We support Georgia's territorial integrity and sovereignty within its internationally recognized borders.
	Which includes, of course, their economic zone of water there in the Caspian Sea, where the pipelines are going to go right near.
	And it also kind of explains what happened just last week in Brussels.
	Serbia's ambassador to NATO has died after falling from a high-rise car park in Brussels airport.
	The Serbian government's statement, said the envoy, Branislav Milinkovic, who's 52, died instantly on Tuesday night.
	He was in Belgium for meetings of NATO foreign ministers.
	Reports suggest he may have jumped 30 feet or 10 meters or so from the parking level.
	Yeah, of course he jumped.
	He's like, hey, I'm just going to jump here.
	So they're killing off people who were in the way.
	We've got Hillary trying to ward them off at every single pass.
	Syria has traditionally, historically, always been very, very important for the entire region when it comes to energy.
	And so now we have who is going to supply the gas to Europe.
	So we already have Russia supplying most of that.
	But we've got the gas coming out of Egypt going up through Syria, which now we have to secure, of course, which then goes from Syria through Turkey.
	We have Nabucco, which is going through Turkey.
	Everything is now going through Turkey.
	That is the stuff that Hillary Clinton has been working on, and that's why Syria has been so important.
	And I think that Putin got his whole deal.
	Whatever deal he struck, he's got his South Stream.
	It'll start delivering gas by 2015.
	And he's like, you know what?
	Screw it.
	We're not going to deal with Syria anymore.
	You deal with it.
	Congratulations.
	As it were, stuck holding the bag.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	You've got to turn your speakers down, John.
	It's so fucking annoying.
	I'm sorry.
	I know you can barely...
	You're swearing at me.
	I'm not swearing at you.
	I'm sweating and I'm angry because...
	I'm turning it down as much as I can.
	This is no way to do a show.
	I can't hear myself.
	You're going to have to turn up the...
	Why don't you do the...
	Can you do dynamically turn up the clips?
	No, I wish I could.
	If I turn up the clips, then my voice gets louder, then it starts...
	No, no, I mean, in other words, play the clip without interrupting it.
	Yeah, but I can't change the volume.
	That's not the problem.
	Okay, well, whatever.
	No, I just have to buy a whole set of gear here.
	I can't do a month of shows like this.
	I'm going to kill myself.
	You think we're going to...
	We're not going to be home before the new year.
	This is not going to happen.
	All right.
	I'm sorry.
	Alright.
	So anyway, so that's where I think that is.
	And in the New York Times, there was a very interesting article.
	Let me just grab this for a second.
	The New York Times is where the Obama administration...
	I wish I could find...
	Why can't I find this article right off the bat?
	I'll find it in a minute.
	The Obama administration is now blaming the delivery of weapons to Syrian opposition on Qatar.
	What?
	Yeah.
	Which, of course, is bullcrap because we know that the weapons essentially were in Libya and that's the whole reason why everything went bad in Benghazi.
	And so they're saying, well, you know, we approved, this is where I want to find this article, we approved that Qatar gave those weapons to the opposition in Syria, because of course we could never do that.
	And so now, you know, we have all these groups in Syria.
	We don't really know who they are.
	And they've got all these weapons.
	And maybe they actually do have access to the chemical weapons.
	And now it's going to be a huge mess.
	And we're going to be either in the air or on the ground, boots on the ground, whatever it's going to be.
	Now we're stuck with it.
	We are literally stuck with this crap.
	And it's our own damn fault.
	Looking through the times now.
	I don't understand.
	I have the article here.
	I just can't find it.
	Maybe it's under Benghazi.
	Here it is.
	U.S. approved weapons transfer ended up with Libyan jihadis.
	And then it went on to Syria.
	I'll put it in the show notes.
	It's something to be seen.
	It's something to be read.
	It's just unbelievable.
	The Obama administration did not initially raise objections when Qatar began shipping arms to opposition groups in Syria, even if it did not offer encouragement, according to current and former administration officials.
	Of course, no one ever goes named in these articles.
	But they said the United States has growing concerns that, just as in Libya, the Qataris are equipping some of the wrong militants.
	So this is all a hedge, you know, because they know that this is a tinderbox and it's going to blow.
	Oh, Russia makes out again.
	Yeah, I really think they do.
	And so this video of Putin, which you'll find in the show notes, 468.nashownotes.com, he's looking pretty healthy.
	And he's literally standing there.
	You don't know if he's the prime minister, the president, or if he's the CEO of Gazprom.
	And actually, he's all three, of course.
	And you just see him like, hey, we're rocking it.
	We're going to deliver gas to our customers.
	2015, it'll be flowing right into Europe.
	It'll be the third different pipeline they've got into Europe.
	And they've completely gone around the Balkans.
	And they're just like, screw it.
	We don't care what you're doing.
	I'm surprised they haven't gone up the gut like that before.
	I guess they're still in trouble with Georgia.
	The Ukrainians hate them.
	If you look at the map for the South Stream, it goes right above Georgia into the Caspian Sea.
	Now, that's not to say that it's a slam dunk, that there may still not be some trouble up that way, but I think that they're done with Syria.
	I really do.
	And we will have to see, but the Nabucco pipeline, which is, as I said, the competitor, there's no plans.
	They're not doing it right.
	And all this, you know, it's just...
	Yeah, it's Russia.
	It's always been about Russia.
	it has nothing to do with the Syrians at all.
	Are you still alive?
	Looking at the map.
	Oh.
	You see it?
	Yeah, it's...
	And they also just announced something with the Chinas.
	It's a better way to go.
	It must be harder to build a pipeline through the Balkans.
	Well, the Nabucco idea, which is the European Union and I guess the Texas companies...
	You get your stuff from Azerbaijan, which of course is why we had the Eurovision Song Contest there.
	You get your gas from Azerbaijan, you bring it through Iraq, through Syria, and then you bring it up through Turkey, or you take it straight through to Turkey, from Iraq to Turkey.
	It all goes through Turkey, who, by the way, are going to become real royal pains in the ass.
	The Turks eventually are going to say, hey, we're kind of rocking it here, so we just want to...
	It's probably already started.
	Hey, why don't you bring us some Patriot missiles?
	Okay.
	Which are coming from the Netherlands, I might add.
	They're just going to become...
	They had a commentary about Patriot missiles recently.
	Hmm?
	There's a story that was interesting, because it was Putin being quoted about the Patriot missiles, and then they pulled the story.
	I think it was either in USA Today or New York Times.
	One of these national publications had the story.
	I think it was USA Today.
	And then all the Putin stuff was pulled out for some reason.
	Oh, really?
	He was just essentially saying, the Patriot missile's a piece of shit.
	It doesn't work.
	Well, the Turks like it.
	I already knew that.
	Gazprom talks with China about natural gas pipeline in East Asia.
	So that's blowing it the other way.
	Where it would be the Altai pipeline into China.
	And meanwhile, the price of gas is so messed up that American companies can't even make enough money to get it out of the ground.
	That's funny.
	So I would say, prediction-wise, all we have to do now is just sit back and watch as the Russians continue to build the pipelines, and we are now stuck with this huge pain in the ass that is Syria.
	With no upside.
	Just none.
	And, and even worse, I think that the chemical weapons might actually be used, but not by Assad.
	Just all these a-holes that we've given weapons and funded and put in there, and they're just running amok.
	Yeah, and they don't know how anything, you know, I mean, they're nuts.
	Yeah.
	Don't eat me, Hillary Clinton!
	Anything else you've been learning?
	You didn't hear the jingle, did you?
	Hold on.
	See if you can hear it.
	Don't eat me, Hillary Clinton!
	Can you hear that?
	I got a little girl.
	We should talk about this.
	About Lizzy?
	Little Lizzy.
	Well, here's the problem with Lizzy stuff, is that as I was trying to transfer this, I need to do some production work on this because the audio, there's not enough dynamics in it, so it really doesn't have the sound that we want.
	But we can talk about it.
	I have them here.
	I have them ready.
	We can talk about it.
	But you'll hear the dynamics are just not good enough to really use yet.
	Well, the thing is that...
	Yeah, I know.
	She's not Mike.
	She's actually being done by a camcorder.
	Yeah.
	She's hilarious.
	So, Lizzie is...
	You know her from...
	Shut up, slave!
	So, that's Lizzie, who is...
	How old is she now?
	Is Lizzie like five?
	Was she six?
	No, she might be six.
	So her dad decides it's a great idea to do a whole bunch of Lizzie clips that people can then request for donations, which I think is a great idea.
	So we have these videos, and it's a video of her sitting on the couch, and he's filming her.
	And actually, so here's the intro.
	Merry Christmas, Adam and John.
	Here's some clips for your donation segment.
	And she has a little beret, and she's really cute.
	And then, you know, so we have all these, like, really awesome things like...
	The Humbug Slave!
	And what else do we have?
	We have this one.
	Merry Christmas, Slave!
	It doesn't have the dynamics yet.
	I want to work on it.
	So for Thursday's show, people will be able to request these.
	A special donation biddy.
	Christmas is about spending human resource.
	Yeah, you just can't quite hear it.
	Yeah, you know what's funny about little kids doing these clips?
	For one thing, it's hard to get them to do them.
	Yeah.
	I could never get my kids to do it.
	They wouldn't put up with it.
	Once in a while, I can catch them where they put up with it a little bit.
	But it's also funny because there's this one clip of they have her saying...
	I forgot what something...
	It wasn't douchebag.
	She does very well, by the way.
	Yeah, this one.
	Check this.
	This one, maybe.
	Donate now if you're a Christmas de-douchey.
	Oh, that was the de-douching.
	I don't think I have the douchebag one.
	Oh, the douchebag one's hilarious.
	But she was doing something and she kept saying it over and over and over again.
	When she finally got it where it was actually hilarious to hear it, the dad laughed at her because it was so funny.
	And then she got all embarrassed.
	I know, she goes like, what?
	I mean, because little kids don't know that they're supposed to...
	No, no, no.
	It's really hard to work with children.
	He was making her say WTF. I think that's what it was.
	And she was like, WTF! No, no, it wasn't that.
	It was a long sentence.
	But whatever the case is, working with children and animals is like the hardest thing to do.
	It really is.
	But this one still slays me.
	Don't eat me, Hillary Clinton!
	Don't eat me!
	Don't eat me Hillary Clinton.
	I love that one.
	That one's genius.
	Don't eat me Hillary Clinton.
	I think she just ad-libbed.
	I didn't request that.
	I didn't request that one, no.
	We're evil men, John.
	We are very evil.
	Explaining the youth of America.
	Meanwhile, Miss Mickey is back.
	Are you going to live?
	Yeah?
	So John immediately called it.
	He said, oh, she must have been puking her guts out.
	Yeah.
	You could have gone blind.
	Yeah, you can.
	What?
	Impotent?
	Oh man, I better get checked.
	Get to work.
	What?
	What did you just say?
	What?
	I don't know.
	What?
	What?
	That was obviously a joke.
	What?
	Obviously.
	I don't even want to...
	You know what?
	I'm so pissed off at the world, I don't even want to talk about it.
	Okay, well, you can be pissed off, but I think we better thank a few executive producers, because we did get a good showing.
	Oh, that's nice.
	I can use that good news.
	What do we have?
	So we've got some executive producers to thank, and one associate executive producer, starting with Sir Ernie.
	Oh, Sir Ernie, he did the 12-12...
	He's already been a night, so he's an instant second night.
	Yeah, he did the super karma coins.
	Right, yeah.
	12-12-12.
	Hey now.
	Hey.
	Thanks for plugging the 12-12 Tom Super Karma coins once more.
	There's still some left and waiting for your producers at NoAgendaSuperKarma.com.
	I never got one of these coins.
	No, me neither.
	You got one?
	No, I did not.
	I've gotten the Super Karma coins before, but not the 12-12-12, which do look pretty stellar.
	You can go to No Agenda...
	I mean, the other...
	Yeah, the 12-12-12 is the...
	No, that's not the main end of the world.
	This is the other end of the world.
	Well, it's NoAgendaSuperKarma.com.
	12-12-12 is right.
	It's not the end of the world.
	It's the 12-12-12.
	Coming up in a couple of days, I might add.
	Yeah, well, it's on, what is it, Sunday?
	Yeah.
	Okay, Sunday.
	I mean, Wednesday.
	It's dark out here.
	I don't know what time it is.
	It's 10 past 7 in the evening here.
	I don't even know where I'm living.
	It's probably pitch black.
	Yeah, it is.
	I'm looking right outside.
	It's very dark.
	Anyway, I want to thank Sir Ernie for this, and also Sir Robert Brock in Anchorage.
	Did I get a note from him?
	12-09-12, which is essentially today.
	No, it is not essentially today.
	It is today.
	You sure you didn't get a note from him?
	Hello?
	Yeah, can you hear me?
	Yeah, I said, are you sure you didn't get a note from him?
	I'm looking.
	There it is.
	No, I got no note from him.
	How can that be?
	Robert Joseph.
	Wait, this might be.
	It just says Robert.
	No note.
	No.
	Wow.
	I asked him.
	I sent him an email saying, where's your note?
	He says, no note.
	The donation is the corresponding show date.
	That is...
	In month, date, year.
	Awesome.
	Very awesome.
	Thank you.
	Also, our baron, the wonderful Stephen Pelzmacher.
	Who has offered us the world, by the way.
	He has offered us the barony of Belgium on a silver platter.
	He said, come on down.
	I'll take care of you.
	Not a problem.
	Anyway, he's in with 999.99.
	I guess the DHS is hitting Miss Mickey and Adam in the mouth.
	Douchebags.
	Give him a douchebags.
	Douchebag!
	So a Forrest Hot Pockets Europe tour is in the work something for which I can hardly be sad.
	Ha ha ha!
	But with that comes expenses, so please accept the 999.99 extra large donation to help defray the cost.
	Get some of the paperwork settled, karma and little girl yay.
	Just getting by might be easier again.
	Due to my personal situation, it's unfortunately currently difficult to offer, but come next spring, he offers you his house.
	Yes.
	I think it's the castle that he's offering.
	Yeah, he says he'll try to fund some teepees in the meantime.
	Alright, so we've got a 999 little girl yay, and I guess there's some karma that is attached to that.
	Let me just make sure we've got all that.
	Yay!
	9999999!
	And a penny.
	You've got karma.
	Thank you, Baron.
	Thank you so much.
	That is so incredibly kind of you.
	From Anonymous comes $500, and his message is, fuck you both.
	Nice.
	Thanks.
	Don't tell me it's too late to celebrate the fifth year of no agenda.
	I'll do what I damned well please.
	Close your eyes, Adam, and poke the soundboard for three random jingles, and no, I'm not drunk, shpags.
	Okay, I'm going to poke just three random ones.
	Here's one.
	That's one, mother.
	I'd like to fuck.
	And the next one at random.
	I'm just hitting something, but nothing's happening.
	And the third one at random.
	I literally did that with closed eyes, just so you know.
	Thank you so much, Mr.
	Anonymous.
	Black Knight McTank in La Jolla.
	He wants karma for you guys, the Vagabonds.
	Oh, that would be us indeed.
	You've got karma.
	That was $450.
	Loke Wonderhelm.
	Is that right?
	Yeah.
	Luke.
	Luke.
	37356.
	This, by the way, was a wire transfer.
	Oh, wow.
	Which I was wondering about.
	I was first planning to ask for two to the head, little girl, yay, for John's home PC helium configuration.
	But that problem got solved by one of the knights.
	Thank God.
	Give him one of the two to the head, little girl, yay, anyway.
	Okay, hold on.
	I don't have enough...
	I don't have enough hands, I guess.
	There we go.
	And I'm just amazed at how loud you are coming back yourself now through the microphone.
	I don't understand it.
	I'm just...
	Found it later.
	Wiley Harp in Salt Lake City, $312.12, and he'll be the associate executive producer.
	He says it's...
	He figures it's time to step up.
	It's been over a year since my last donation.
	Right.
	This is a birthday present to myself, which is December 12th, requesting nothing to see here, Karma, with a slide whistle stinger.
	Thank you for the best podcast in the universe and the only meta news podcast in the multiverse.
	Alright, you got your slide whistle ready to go?
	Hang on.
	Ready?
	I'm going whether you're ready or not.
	Don't look over here.
	Nothing to see here.
	You've got karma.
	Okay.
	Good?
	Yeah.
	Thank you.
	That's the Candyman, actually.
	Before I forget.
	Luke Wonderheld.
	This, of course, is wildly horrible.
	I know, I know.
	I'm just catching up.
	Okay, so we want to thank them and all the other, we'll get to our regular donors later in the show.
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	But noagenda, or I'm sorry, devork.org slash na is where you really want to go.
	And of course, these are official credits, particularly the 12-12-12, as executive producers, but also the associate executive producers.
	We will vouch for you, unlike those phonies in Hollywood.
	And of course, if you have nothing to give, you can always propagate our formula.
	Our formula is this.
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	Shut up, Slate.
	So, there is a piece of interesting news.
	Okay.
	And I think it was hilarious that it was just glossed over.
	And this is the kind of the glossing over you'd hear on any of these networks, including MSNBC, where I believe this came from.
	I think this was MSNBC. Play the clip Books Cooked for the Election.
	Okay.
	Jared, I have a question for you here.
	But first, I do want to mention a little detail from this report.
	We actually found out that the job creation numbers for September and October were actually revised downward.
	So the obvious conclusion there is, yes, the books were cooked by Chicago politics, guys.
	And, you know, Jared, if you want to offer an apology to Jack Welter, I'll certainly allow you to do that.
	No, I decidedly do not.
	Okay.
	So apparently, you know, remember Jack Welch got fired because he came out and said these numbers are bullcrap.
	Well, he didn't get fired.
	Just before the election.
	Yeah, but people are yelling at him about the so-called cooked unemployment numbers.
	Right.
	Yeah, he says they were cooked.
	Yeah.
	Well, now that they've come up with revised numbers.
	Turns out they were.
	Well, we knew this was going to happen.
	By the way, I believe that we have in our red book that we believe they were cooked.
	Yeah, I think if you look at the red book, you'll probably see it says that after the election, it'll come out, there'll be a revision.
	And I think our model for this was George Bush going situation red, you know, alert at all the airports.
	We're going to be attacked any minute by some terrorist just before his re-election.
	Exactly.
	Exactly.
	So the model was already set.
	And so the Obama administration, nobody cares.
	Nobody covered it.
	Nobody.
	Jack Welch is, you know, nobody went back and said, geez, you're right, Jack.
	It's unbelievable to me.
	It's not that unbelievable to me.
	It is unbelievable to me.
	Right.
	But when we left, everyone was talking about a football player who killed his girlfriend and then killed himself.
	Meanwhile, we've had four, five, six more young boys, and I think some women, killed in Iraq, Afghanistan, blown to pieces.
	No one talks about that.
	The world has gone nuts.
	It's just crazy.
	Everything we talk about, everything that is on the news is the wrong thing.
	It is completely the wrong thing.
	Or good news.
	Yeah.
	This is also covered the same way that we can expect.
	Black boxes and cars.
	Play that clip.
	It's funny because I have this.
	It may not be the exact same clip, but I have a clip as well.
	So we'll see if it's different and we'll play them back to back.
	Forget about black boxes and airplanes.
	What about black boxes under the hood of your car?
	The government accelerating plans, forcing automakers to put black box recorders in every new car.
	It's designed to be a safety measure, Gary Vee, you say, just to actually lead to a mileage tax?
	How's that?
	Absolutely, Brendan.
	You know, these things always start out as safety measures.
	I'm sure that's the intent right now.
	But you know the government is like this big monolith that just needs revenues as fuel.
	And it's growing and growing.
	The easiest way to get revenues is via data.
	So, you know, people think, oh, that'll never happen.
	They just want it for safety.
	Look, the whole reason Obamacare might be successful is because the IRS has the data.
	That's going to allow them to collect all that Obamacare revenue.
	That's interesting.
	How do they get from the black boxes to Obamacare?
	I don't quite understand the bridge.
	Hello?
	I'm sorry.
	I was trying...
	Hello?
	Hello?
	Is this thing on?
	I couldn't hear your clip.
	I couldn't hear your clip, so I was dicking around.
	You couldn't hear your own clip, seriously?
	I could hear my clip, and then it was so low, and you were starting to play your clip that I... No, I didn't even play my clip, so I don't know what you're talking about.
	Oh, that's what I was thinking.
	I was wondering, I can't hear this clip.
	No, so my question is, how do they get from the black box, which is...
	It's an invasion of privacy and, of course, started with the insurance companies.
	You get a lower rate, which is how they're going to get all these black boxes all over our lives.
	But in this clip, I don't quite understand the move from the black box in your car to Obamacare.
	I didn't understand that.
	Oh, this is just bull crap.
	The guy just threw it in saying that, you know, you buy one thing and you get something else.
	And he's trying to make an analogy.
	My thinking is, but you can play your clip now.
	No, no, it's okay.
	It's the same thing, essentially.
	Oh, okay.
	My thinking is, and this is in the book.
	I mean, I think we've talked about this before.
	The black box is for one reason and one reason only.
	It's a revenue generator.
	Especially like in California, you have to go every year, every two years or every year, you have to go get your smog.
	It's a complete scam.
	You go in and you have to pay $50 or whatever to get your smog.
	Mm-hmm.
	And the guy has to buy a bunch of gears, and then they send it to the state as a system.
	Well, in the future, when you have your smog checked, or there's going to be like a yearly check, and they're going to check your black box for speeding violations.
	Right.
	If you went 50 miles an hour in a 35-mile-an-hour zone, it's against the law.
	You don't need to have a cop catch you.
	You can catch yourself.
	Right.
	Right.
	And so you're going to get a big bill at the end when you have to re-register your car, and it's going to include all these tickets where you violate, because they have a GPS, they know what street you're on, and if you're going past the speed limit, it'll be flagged and you'll be getting like thousands of dollars worth of tickets.
	They can make it so you can't go one mile an hour over the speed limit.
	But we already have these data recorders in most American-made cars, or most cars that are sold in America already have this.
	But what I don't understand is, where was this legislation?
	Where did this just come in?
	Did we miss something that was slipped in?
	This is now mandatory?
	I mean, when did this happen?
	This is not explained in your clip nor in my clip.
	I have no idea where this is coming from out of the blue.
	It's obviously a writer.
	Put in some transportation bill.
	Oh, man.
	Well, I didn't see it.
	I didn't see it either, and I think as much legislation as we plow through, you're going to have to get a hold of that Federal Register friend of yours in Denver and ask him if he's seen it, because it's obvious they're going to do this.
	I mean, I don't see why...
	If I was an onerous, tyrannical government, I'd do it.
	It's crazy not to.
	Yeah.
	Ah, it's for the day.
	It's not quite a pet peeve.
	Not good enough for that.
	No, I didn't quite get the pet.
	Well, it's because it's lukewarm.
	It's warmed over.
	We've done it before.
	We've talked about it before.
	It's just now it's getting a little closer to reality.
	Right.
	And what I'm thinking is they have to standardize it.
	That's the key here.
	It's not that cars don't already have these black boxes, but they don't have them set up in a very easy way with a special series of data points that anyone can extract and then give you tickets.
	Right.
	Right.
	So they'll standardize something that makes it so every one of these cars will be essentially spying on you.
	Let me see if there was something different in my clip.
	Let's just listen to it.
	Beginning in September of 2014, every new vehicle sold in the U.S. will be required to have a so-called black box.
	The boxes record the last few seconds before a crash, providing such clues as vehicle speed, steering, whether the brakes were applied, and if the driver was wearing a seatbelt.
	If you are guilty of something, it's going to hurt you.
	If you're innocent of something, it could be a real defense for you.
	That's one of the guys from Car Talk on NPR. The insurance industry supports the move, even though most drivers are unaware that 96% of cars sold today already have data recorders installed.
	People are dying on the freeways, and these people are trying to make it so that doesn't happen.
	That's a good thing.
	But privacy advocates say the government and automakers are traveling toward a slippery slope by spreading an intrusive technology without the policy in place to prevent the misuse of information.
	You know, that's nothing.
	That's nothing, man.
	The big conversation over here is the electronic patient dossier, the EPD for healthcare here.
	So, when you go to the doctor...
	Let's just say you are depressed, which happens a lot in these dark days.
	The doctor will prescribe you some kind of psychotropic drug and will put depression on your sheet.
	sheet, it immediately goes electronically right to the insurance company.
	That's odd.
	The United States...
	Really?
	You think that's odd?
	I think it's...
	It's meant for the insurance industry.
	That surprised me.
	But this is what's coming for everybody.
	And a lot of people are like, yeah, I think this EPD, this electronic patient dossier is really good, so they can't mess up my drugs or anything, but it's going to the insurance company, directly to the insurance companies.
	Yeah, and they'll mess up your drugs anyway.
	Yeah.
	But how crazy is that?
	Well, I've always believed, I hate to say it because I'm now sounding a little too much like you, I've always believed those Safeway club cards, you join the Safeway club, I think that information is designed to go to insurance companies.
	Yeah.
	So this guy eats a lot of ham.
	Yeah.
	Well, we were at the market.
	So, literally, on Saturdays, right around the corner from where we're renting this place, there's a market.
	And this is an old, old, old-school market, you know, the one with the Havana Gila organs.
	And literally, they have signs everywhere, no cash, we prefer that you would PIN. And PIN is kind of the debit card system here.
	So at the market, where you're supposed to be using just cash, they're doing the same thing now.
	It's all cashless, everything's electronic, everything's going through databases.
	I mean, it is truly Gitmo Nation, man.
	Man.
	This is a really...
	Yeah, man.
	These things are...
	Are you telling me at a farmer's market?
	Yes!
	A farmer's market!
	Yes!
	I mean, the guy is actually grabbing your ground beef with his bare hands, which is like a very Dutch kind of butcher thing to do.
	You know, they don't wear gloves or anything.
	Of course, they don't have to because they're not touching any money.
	But the whole thing is you've got this very old school, you know, kind of, you know, a true farmer's market where the butcher is, you know, he's almost like slaughtering the cow in the back, but then he wants electronic money.
	It's just mind-boggling.
	Did you talk to anybody about this, any of these farmers, and ask if they think this is a good idea?
	Well, it's funny because I said, do you really want me to give you plastic instead of money?
	He said, well, no, it's up to you.
	But it was obvious.
	No, you can't talk to these guys.
	No, you can't talk sense into them.
	No, this is zombification, man.
	Forget about it.
	Hey, I saw a great commercial on television.
	I'm going to play you the news story, and then before we get to the payoff, I want you to tell me what the promotion is for.
	Okay?
	You think you can do it?
	Uh, yeah.
	We're learning about a new investigation of the United States Secret Service for what's being called an immense and embarrassing security breach.
	Do you know what it is yet?
	Security breach.
	No, it's a commercial.
	It's a promotion for something.
	Sensitive information about employees and investigations lost in a very public place.
	You've got to turn down the speakers.
	I have to have it up to my ear or I cannot hear the clip.
	Well, I'm just going to stop doing the show.
	We can't do a show like this.
	Has been looking into this and has the details.
	This is all of us asking, how could this happen?
	How could it happen?
	And I think they're still asking that question.
	Kate Wolf, this data was on computer tapes that were misplaced.
	It is potentially damaging information that one expert says could put Secret Service agents' lives at risk or the lives of their families.
	And it's been unaccounted for for almost five years.
	Do you know what it is yet or not?
	Yeah, they're trying to sell floppy disks to replace computer tapes.
	No.
	Yeah, that's got to be it, because I know that all these agencies that use computer tapes, I have to move to floppy disks.
	You've got to get away from that part of the story.
	You've got to get more into the concept of it.
	Just tell me what it is.
	It just sounds like a wolf going on and on.
	Law enforcement and congressional sources tell CNN the U.S. Secret Service is being investigated for a potentially damaging loss of information.
	The data was on two backup computer tapes, which contained very sensitive personnel and investigative information, according to our sources.
	You lost the drive containing the identity of every agent.
	It might remind you of the new James Bond movie, Skyfall.
	Ah, there, the James Bond movie.
	And so they bring up this story about some tapes that have been lost for five years or whatever, and it's only a promotion for the James Bond movie.
	It's so blatantly obvious.
	Computer tapes are so important.
	Computer tapes.
	So blatantly obvious.
	You know, we missed one a couple weeks ago.
	I had a clip.
	I was going to discuss this.
	There's a bunch of new diseases breaking out all over the world.
	Oh.
	Oh, yes.
	There's a new Ebola that's in the air.
	You're going to get that.
	And then, apparently, there's the re-emergence of the Marfan's virus, which is going to be an outbreak.
	What is that?
	Well...
	If you can see what movie came out right during this bull crap, Marfan's is what Abraham Lincoln had that made him so tall and gangly.
	It's a syndrome.
	And, yeah, look at that, Marfans.
	So they're bringing up Marfans just in time.
	I swear to God, it came out, the little, I just forgot to talk about it.
	It came out exactly when the Abraham Lincoln movie was released.
	Exactly.
	Wow.
	I didn't even know that the guy had some kind of weird disease.
	Marfans?
	Yeah, Marfans.
	Really?
	Maybe I have that.
	Could be.
	Marfans.
	It makes your face look like Abraham Lincoln, so I don't think you do.
	Wait a minute.
	I wish I could figure out how we can fix this sound.
	I can turn the threshold up.
	Maybe.
	I just don't understand.
	I want to cry.
	I just want to make a good show.
	This is going to be great about...
	Yeah, about ten minutes before we're done.
	About two or three weeks from now.
	Oh yeah.
	What?
	Adam Curry found dead in a ditch.
	Why?
	I mean, I just can't stand the echo.
	It's just fucking killing me.
	Getting an echo now?
	Yeah.
	Really?
	Because I got the...
	If I turn the threshold down anymore...
	No, you have to understand.
	Even when you're talking, I'm hearing an echo.
	I mean, that makes no sense.
	Huh.
	Right, onward.
	Onward, exactly.
	Okay.
	So...
	I have a funny clip.
	Oh, okay.
	Okay.
	This is a guy named Kevin Hassett, who is a former Federal Reserve senior economist, testifying before Congress about the whole fiscal cliff, the economy falling apart.
	And this New Mexico senator who apparently has been in the Senate for 30 years, and I've never heard of him before, I never saw him before, Jeff Bingaman.
	He seems to be a complete idiot.
	So he's got this Hassett.
	Now you have to just hear this.
	Hassett has already went on and on about how we can do this and how we can do that, but at no point did he ever think that we should either go over the cliff or we should do anything nasty.
	He was just saying we did not do that.
	But this guy was insisting.
	This is called Leading the Witness.
	I only have three examples.
	He does it once, twice, the third time.
	This was all he did the whole time.
	And you just have to hear it because it's so funny.
	I wish I knew what to play.
	Douchebag Senator Leading the Witness.
	Oh, okay.
	Well, I was looking for L leading the witness.
	Here we go.
	If we have the spending cuts and deficits are lower, then we might have higher economic growth in the long run because we went through that struggle last year.
	So you think your position is that we should be ready to go through that struggle again and in fact default on the national debt if necessary in order to enforce spending limits?
	That's of course not my position, Senator.
	My position is not that we should ever default on the national debt.
	My position is that the politics of deficit reduction, as you all know better than me, are very, very difficult, and I'm not a political expert.
	And if there's a mechanism out there, a thing that we have to do now and then, that helps deficit reduction occur, then I'm not so willing to stop that process for all of time.
	But you're saying that defaulting on the national debt may be one of those things we have to do now and then?
	No, it's not.
	No, sir.
	We did not default on the debt last summer.
	We did not, but the threat is there again that we might here in January or February default on the debt.
	Is it your position that we should be willing to default on the debt if that's necessary in order to force spending cuts?
	I would not be willing to default on the debt under any circumstance.
	I could add that if you look at...
	Okay.
	Well, so this is what goes on in Congress.
	I'm watching this hearing and I'm listening to this guy go on.
	You think we should default on the national debt?
	No.
	So what I'm hearing from you is that we should default on the national debt.
	No, I'm not saying that.
	He says, okay, so then we should default on the national debt instead?
	Anyway, I just found it weird.
	I guess you didn't think much of it.
	I'm distracted, John.
	I'm sorry.
	I'm angry.
	I'm tired.
	I'm upset.
	I'm hearing myself 15 times.
	You're annoyed by me mentioning it every single time.
	I just don't know what to do.
	And I'm just hearing myself like soap in my head.
	It's just, I don't know what to do.
	I don't know.
	And on top of all that, where we have our 12-12-12 celebration.
	How long have we been pushing 12-12-12 for 12-12-12 nights?
	We've been pushing this for at least a year.
	And now all of a sudden, oh, we've got to have some douchebags come in and take our date.
	Live December 12th.
	Who took our day?
	By Jovey, Eric Clapton, Dave Grohl, Billy Joel, Alicia Keys, Chris Martin, Bruce Springsteen and the E Street Band, Eddie Vedder, Roger Waters, Kanye West, The Who, Paul McCartney, and many more.
	Live from Madison Square Garden, 12-12-12.
	The concert for Sandy Relief to benefit the Robin Hood Relief Fund.
	Presented by Chase.
	Live Wednesday night, December 12th at 7.30.
	Haha!
	So, a couple of things with this.
	First of all, what a bunch of douchebags.
	So they're doing a concert now, live from Madison Square Garden, and it's for Sandy, but if you listen closely, it's to benefit the Robin Hood Foundation.
	Because that's literally what the guy said.
	Not to benefit victims of Hurricane Sandy, but to benefit the Robin Hood Foundation.
	So, I'm like, you know what, let me look at...
	Oh, by the way, presented by Chase.
	What the hell is that?
	Presented by Chase.
	So I'm like, I'm going to go take a look at this organization, who have not filed their 2011 Form 990, I might point out, which I think is incredibly bad form, seeing as it's due by October 16th, and must be published by law, which they have not done.
	This is the mother load, John.
	The mother effin' load.
	This charity, in 2010, because of course we don't have 2011, because they haven't published yet against all laws, Brought in $147,526,786.
	$147 million.
	Their net assets in 2010 were $312 million.
	This is the mother load of all charities.
	Who's on the board of directors?
	Well, of course, Jamie Dimon, obviously.
	That's why it's presented by Chase.
	I mean, what a douchebag move.
	If Chase wants to help people out, fine.
	But they have to have this presented by Chase.
	Oh, and by the way, it's also presented by Verizon and by Sprint.
	The whole thing makes me throw up in my mouth.
	So I look at this 2010 Form 990.
	Oh, my God.
	So, people are making so much money off of this.
	I beg of you, when they put this concert on, which will be televised on every network, uninterrupted, brought to you by Chase, do not give any money.
	You want to help people out?
	Go down to the affected areas at Jersey, Jersey Shore, go to Staten Island, whatever it is.
	Bring those people some actual water and blankets.
	Do not give money to these a-holes.
	Let me give you just a couple of examples of what they did in 2010.
	So they had this big show in 2010.
	And by the way, they don't give any money directly.
	They only give money to other charities.
	Let me say that again.
	So they don't give money directly to people.
	They only give money to other non-profit charities.
	And the list is endless when you look at it.
	But, you know, they're given to charter schools and all kinds of other amazing charities.
	100% of every dollar donated goes directly to help those in need, it says.
	Bullshit.
	Did you look at this board?
	Wow.
	Yeah.
	Oh, yeah.
	No, it's got everybody on there.
	So in 2010, they did another little concert to raise some money, and I happen to know one of the guys who did the production, Alex Coletti.
	Alex Coletti, I worked with him for many years at MTV, and he did all the MTV Unplugged concerts.
	So let me see.
	Alex made $315,000 off of that, but even more important, in this 2010 charity event, Stevie Wonder performed.
	And Stevie Wonder was paid $500,000 for that.
	So these artists are not doing this for free.
	Some of them may be, but certainly not all of them.
	And Stevie Wonder apparently doesn't show up for nothing.
	These guys have $116 million invested in stocks and bonds.
	Of this money that they have.
	I wonder, do you think Chase does that for them?
	They have $50 million invested in Central American and Caribbean investments, $9.5 million in North American investments, $24.5 million in European, including Iceland and Greenland.
	Oh, and by the way, the people who run this outfit, let's see, what do you think would a normal salary be for a charitable organization as the CEO, John?
	What would a normal salary be?
	For a charitable organization?
	Yeah.
	But if it was huge like this one, I would say maybe $250,000.
	How about $575,000?
	Okay.
	A little high.
	A little high?
	A little high, he says?
	Oh my god.
	We've got the number two on the list, $282,000.
	Then we have $202,000, $264,000, $261,000, $382,000, $283,000, $256,000, $224,000.
	How many people do they need?
	Well, they've got...
	Oh, the salaries in total are millions of dollars a year.
	But just people who are in executive positions, 11 of them...
	This is a bunch of rich people...
	And I guess they just put their own money into this and then turn it right around and invest it in Chase Vehicles.
	The whole thing smells.
	I think there's more than just Chase here, because you have a bunch of capital management companies that are involved with this Maverick Capital, Oxif, Starwood Capital Group.
	It doesn't actually say what this is invested in, but since we know that Chase is sponsoring the event, and they're not doing it silently, it's brought to you by Chase.
	Brought to you by Chase.
	It's just like, the whole thing is disgusting.
	And they do not, they do not give money directly to people.
	They give it to other charitable organizations.
	Like the Audubon Society.
	Well, if you listen to this sentence again, and tell me...
	I'm going to read it.
	100% of every dollar donated goes directly to help those in need.
	Ah, to help.
	Yes, correct.
	To help those in need through the...
	That's a great sentence, by the way.
	It is great.
	Well, let's listen to the commercial again.
	Maybe we can catch more from that.
	Live December 12.
	Bon Jovi, Eric Clapton, Dave Grohl, Billy Joel, Alicia Keys, Chris Martin, Bruce Brinkstein and the E Street Band, Eddie Vedder, Roger Waters, Kanye West, The Who, Paul McCartney, and many more.
	Live from Madison Square Garden, 12-12-12, the concert for Sandy Relief to benefit the Robin Hood Relief Fund, presented by Chase.
	Live, Wednesday night, December 12th at 7.30.
	I mean, literally, it says the concert for Sandy to benefit the Robin Hood Relief Foundation.
	It doesn't say to benefit the Sandy people.
	It doesn't say that.
	Presented by Chase.
	You know, you could have done that voiceover.
	It sounds like one of your voices.
	Yeah.
	Live to benefit a bunch of douchebags.
	Yeah.
	So they only give money to other charities.
	And it's just a bunch of elitist BS. I've never heard of these charities.
	So there's the SEIU Home Industry Charity.
	That's the Service Employees International Union.
	Yeah.
	What do they need money for?
	I don't know.
	They got $600,000 from them.
	This is all 2010.
	I don't have 2011 numbers.
	Advocates for Children of New York, After Hours Project, Inc., Aid for AIDS, AIDS Center of Queens, Albert Einstein College of Medicine, Andrew Glover Youth Program, Associates to Benefit Children, Aster Services for Children, Audubon Family Planning, Bank Street College of Education.
	I mean, what is this?
	And I just picked one of them out, which was the Uncommon Schools, which they gave $2 million to Uncommon Schools.
	And Uncommon Schools has, like, the guy from Audible is on the board.
	What's his name, the owner of Audible?
	Yeah.
	I have no idea his name.
	You know his name.
	You do know his name.
	Maybe.
	Again, and here's all these...
	So this is a charter school.
	And I'm just looking at the amounts of money that people are making here.
	The CEO of this non-profit, 200 grand.
	The COO, 175.
	The CFO, 150.
	This is a charitable school?
	They're getting tax-free money?
	Is the whole world just not paying taxes except us?
	Are we just stupid?
	Are we just completely stupid?
	There's 20 people here on this payroll.
	Well, we're just not on that particular merry-go-round, aren't we?
	No, we're not on that merry-go-round.
	We didn't get on.
	We didn't get on board.
	Instead, we're doing this podcast.
	And it's worse than that.
	People don't like me.
	Besides the fact that we're not on the merry-go-round, people just generally don't like me.
	Yeah, I agree with that.
	And it's not fair.
	I'm sad.
	Wow.
	Wow.
	And it will be worse, by the way, next year when you have to pay the minimum alternative.
	You think it's funny.
	No, I don't think it's funny.
	I remember, I recall that I talked about the AMT over a year ago.
	And I was even trying to explain it.
	And I still don't really understand it.
	And of course, the whole thing is effed.
	But this, you know, it's like everyone's going to feel good, everyone's going to text their money, and we're going to have another Bon Jovi fest, and these guys apparently are not doing it for free.
	I mean, can you believe Stevie Wonder charged half a million dollars for whatever he did for these guys?
	They said $100,000.
	No, $500,000, half a million.
	Oh, it's $500,000?
	Stevie Wonder received in 2010 from this fantastic $300 million charity half a million dollars, and in 2010 he did.
	I'll tell you what it is that he did.
	Because I looked it up.
	This was Robin Hood Gala gets Uma Thurman, Stevie Wonder to lure donors.
	This is what Stevie did in 2010.
	The entertainment is led by Stevie Wonder.
	Hold on, I'm loading.
	This is an article from Bloomberg.
	Robin Hood Foundation defied the recession and raised a record-setting $72.7 million at its annual spring gala last year.
	And then they say that Stevie Wonder, he took care of the entertainment.
	So you can say, yeah, we had to pay the guy some money so that we could raise $72 million.
	But A, the $72 million is not all going directly into people's pockets.
	They're investing this money, maybe for later, for a rainy day.
	But the inference is that these people show up for nothing.
	But Stevie Wonder is charging a half million bucks.
	Do you think any of these people are really doing it for free?
	I mean, we can't even know.
	Apparently only the suckers are doing it for free.
	I can't wait.
	I'm going to mark this down on my calendar, and I will make it my personal business that we're going to see who charged what, or at least who was paid what, in a year from now.
	Or probably two years, because these a-holes don't publish their information in a timely manner.
	Because they have to have it in by October 16th.
	So I don't even know what they did last year.
	But Stevie Wonder, half a million bucks?
	Please!
	Hey, I'd do it for half a million bucks.
	Well, of course you would.
	But people get duped and they think that this is all great.
	And meanwhile, it's benefiting the foundation, not the people directly.
	Read the line again.
	100% of this money goes towards...
	Say it one more time.
	100% of every dollar donated goes directly to help those in need.
	To help.
	Doesn't mean it goes to them.
	It goes to help them by giving to the SEIU. This is like the Red Cross.
	This is horrible.
	If you look, it says, goes directly to help.
	Yeah.
	What does that even mean?
	Well, it goes directly to help by giving it to someone else who's going to promise to help after they pay themselves a nice salary.
	These people are making hundreds of thousands of dollars a year of these little charities you've never heard of that are living off of this big charity run by a bunch of elitist douchebags.
	Kind of summarize the situation.
	Very nicely, I might add.
	Yeah.
	Do not give any money to these jabronis.
	If you want to help, go down and help.
	Seriously.
	These people do need water and blankets.
	For real.
	And don't change your Twitter icon either.
	Right?
	I love people that change their Twitter icon.
	There's a few of them that still have the SOPA icons floating around.
	They never changed it back.
	They just forgot to change it?
	Hey man, they never changed it back.
	Wow.
	I think there are a couple people with the blue or the green icons that they've never changed back.
	Do you think we could ever get people to do that?
	For us?
	Put a No Agenda icon?
	Yeah.
	Or just, you know, I don't know, change something?
	Could we start a movement?
	Could we start any kind of movement whatsoever?
	What do you think?
	No, no.
	No, I think you're right.
	Probably could.
	I'm going to show myself mood by donating to No Agenda.
	Imagine all the people who could do that.
	Oh yeah, that'd be fab.
	Change your icon!
	Okay, I've got to move the microphone over here so I can...
	Did I lose you?
	Did your microphone just crap out?
	No, they do...
	What, you can't hear me?
	Yeah, I got you now.
	You're okay.
	You're good.
	You're good to go.
	Alright, here we go.
	So Keith Edwards in Gilbert, Arizona came in this week with $125 asking us to keep up the great work and cheers to another years of living the American dream of just getting by.
	You can count on that.
	Please send karma to my fellow wage slaves and all of the donors.
	You've got karma.
	Hey, Cruz in Austin.
	Whoa!
	Renee is currently robbing your house.
	Well, there's not much to rob, so go for it.
	$125 saying, in the morning, I just robbed Adam's house and I'm sending him the money.
	Just wanted to pay for one night Airbnb, stay for Adam and Mickey in the great city of Rotterdam.
	Does not say that.
	Really?
	I heard the artificial beach at Boompuscada is real nice.
	I've never even heard of it.
	Tell all the boners out there to at least pick up a small monthly donation and become part of the 1%.
	Please give me some karma for my new upcoming business.
	Thank you so much.
	I appreciate it.
	You've got karma.
	Bo in Clear Lake, Wisconsin.
	A little travel money for Mickey and Adam.
	Donating since first show.
	Started at $2 a month, which is an old defunct donor.
	You may still be on that.
	We still have a couple of $2 a monthers.
	Yeah, we do.
	Now up to $49 a month.
	Value for value.
	Push the subscriptions.
	I need a chemtrails, little girl, shut up, slave, two to the head, little girl, yay, 73 dudes.
	Jeez!
	Hold on a second.
	The only thing I don't have lined up is the little girl, yay.
	And he's got a mesh going, I guess, in Austin.
	Well, you know what this is?
	This is, well, let me do the thing first, and then we'll do the thing after the thing.
	Chemtrails!
	Yay!
	Ugh!
	You've got karma.
	No, so Austin is actually home to the HSMM-Mesh network, which is a bunch of hams who have taken Linksys routers and they've put, you know, Jack software on it, and they've actually created a mesh network, a Wi-Fi mesh network, which I'm not quite sure how far it reaches, but it's pretty big.
	It's bigger than Austin.
	And it's something I, you know, now that I'm an official ham, I can do.
	And it's, you know, they've got like big antennas.
	So imagine a Wi-Fi network that is really big with really big antennas and really powerful and is meshed.
	And it's all over the state.
	It's the kind of thing you like.
	I find it hard to believe.
	No, he has the website here, hsmm-mesh.org.
	I've looked into it.
	It's pretty amazing.
	It really is.
	How do you get on it?
	If you were just sitting around with your computer, it would show up, or they have a hidden SSID or what?
	No, no, no.
	You can't just get it with your computer.
	It's only for the mesh network.
	You'd have to have one of these routers, then you connect that to the mesh network, and then you can connect your computer or your own Wi-Fi network to the mesh network, but you won't get just the SSID out of the air.
	That's not how it works.
	There's a special router involved?
	No, you take an old Linksys router, and you've got to load some JAX software onto it.
	Okay.
	But it is truly very cool.
	I've never heard of it.
	Well, you also, you know, can't hit the repeater.
	I mean, you're not like an active man.
	We have Per Ola Gustafson Gustafson.
	Huh?
	Next donor is.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, that's what I said.
	Yeah.
	$120 is the maximum amount I can pay for gas with my debit card.
	That gets you 13 gallons in Sweden, barely a full tank.
	So they're paying $10 a gallon, which is what everybody wants us to pay.
	Wow.
	I guess I cannot donate a higher amount either.
	Merry Christmas and a happy end of the world.
	Thank you.
	Happy end of the world to you too, Pear.
	Patrick Mackham in Mount Vernon, New York, $111.11.
	Hans-Georg Schultz in Rostock.
	Some gas money for the Hot Pockets Europe Tour.
	$100.
	That's good gas money.
	That'll get you 10 gallons of gas.
	Yep.
	That'll get you 200 miles.
	Anthony Farmer lost his wages in Nevada.
	8181.
	Here's 1212 from Lost Wages and 6969 from Nevada's Nuts.
	Hopefully it's enough to help Adam and Ms.
	M grease their way out of Merkel's Euroland in time to enjoy Xmas where it's warm.
	A Dvorak you will obey followed by a huntsman and a little financial karma would be great.
	Okay, uh, hold on one second.
	You will obey. You will obey. You will obey.
	I don't understand this.
	You've got karma.
	69!
	69!
	Alright, so this nonsense continues.
	It's unbelievable.
	As we know, this was begun almost like maybe a year ago.
	Do you think it was maybe a year ago already?
	I don't know.
	I have Carrie Shun's notes.
	You have it written down, I believe.
	Anyway, she went and ran around and she gives us a donation depending on how far she goes.
	6969 and triggered this crazy thing we don't even try or solicit.
	Anyway, so did Ashley Hurst out of Seattle, Washington.
	6969, the only Sunday service worth attending, and a huntsman karma would be her request.
	You've got karma.
	STWeb in Drumbo, Ontario.
	6969.
	Huntsman Karma.
	That's interesting that two people in a row, by coincidence, would ask for Huntsman Karma, proving, once again, that random number theory is correct.
	Everything happens in bunches.
	Huntsman Karma in a new world order, please, and a big douchebag call out to Homeland Security.
	Not just for Adam, but in principle.
	Yeah, okay.
	Steve Thornton, Rumbo, Ontario.
	Hold on, hold on.
	He wanted Huntsman...
	I want to read his PS. Yeah.
	Starting PayPal, your subscription for viewing issues might be encoding related.
	Oh, yeah, it's possible.
	He's a developer for...
	Okay, I'll talk to him about this.
	But he wants a Huntsman Karma New World Order.
	You can't just gloss over these things.
	No, no, I was still reading his note.
	You read this at the end of the note.
	Alright.
	Are you done?
	Done.
	Done with the note?
	Okay.
	Yeah, yeah.
	You. Order. Order.
	Shut up, slave.
	You've got karma.
	music Lisbon, Portugal.
	Jose Abreu.
	A donation to assist paying for Adam's teepee.
	I still think you should have gone to.
	From Gitmo Nation Sardines.
	Karma and Parliament mumble small child yay for my nephew and nieces.
	Okay.
	Parliament mumble small child yay.
	I think we can possibly do some of that.
	Yay!
	Well, we got that part of it now.
	I just don't have enough hands on deck here.
	Here we go.
	Come on.
	Yay!
	And the karma.
	There we go.
	Done.
	You've got karma.
	Sir Mike Nikolaychuk in Saskatoon.
	ITM, John and Adam.
	Sir Mike, a.k.a.
	RollSK, with another donation from Paris of the Prairies, Saskatoon.
	Thanks very much for the birthday shout-out.
	Notice I didn't have to say that.
	He said it.
	It's the Paris of the Prairies.
	Yep.
	Thanks very much for the birthday shout-out and all the karma you've sent me over the years.
	I have no doubt that the karma played a big part in both my successful divorce.
	I don't know if that's what it's for.
	A.K.A. kept my house and didn't have to pay her out much.
	And also the new relationship I have with a wonderful girl.
	I'm sure the latter is directly a result of the swasselnuff karma.
	So send me more.
	Please keep up the media assassination.
	And Mickey, get home safe.
	Please send me a shut-up slave kid with a parliament yay karma.
	Okie dokie.
	Ships!
	You've got karma. - Bye.
	A lot of 6969s today, including Christian Schroeder from Coal Valley, Illinois.
	6969.
	It's pronounced Schrader, by the way, he says to me.
	Looks like Schroeder, but it's Schrader.
	Looking at my paycheck, I noticed that it ended in...
	$69.69.
	So I must donate.
	I have been a long time $5 a month boner and now it's time to upgrade to $12 a month.
	Can I get a karma shot for my birthday coming up on the 10th?
	And Adam for his Euro trip.
	Yes, indeed.
	You've got karma.
	So I'm sitting here by the window where there's this little table in this apartment.
	And I've just learned that the radiator is right underneath.
	Thank you, darling.
	So it's almost like someone lights a fire in between my legs every 15 minutes.
	Have you ever sat by the radiator on a cold day?
	And it's just like wafting up and I'm fainting.
	Yeah.
	Interesting show, apparently.
	Yeah.
	All right.
	Just so you know.
	Okay.
	Maximilian Mann in Konstanz?
	Where is that?
	Is that Austria?
	Where is that?
	I don't know.
	I don't know.
	6969.
	Donald Kuhl, Wyndham North, New Hampshire, 6969.
	Hey, fellow slaves, was introduced to the best podcast in the universe this fall on a 25-hour drive from New Hampshire to Nebraska towing my race car.
	Thanks for keeping me sane.
	Yay!
	Don Kuhl, P.S., the car took first, second, and third in two classes at the SCCA Nationals.
	Must be no agenda karma.
	Give them some more.
	You got it.
	You've got karma.
	I don't know how you get three places in two races.
	I don't know.
	And by the way...
	Or second and third in two classes.
	By the way, that wraps it up, doesn't it?
	Yeah, the 69-69 is done.
	69!
	James Shea from Brewston Mill, West Virginia, your neck of the woods, decided to go off the rails with 6868.
	Hey, shit, since I've been listening to the show for about two months now, I have to say it's good stuff.
	Shout out to my buddy, Aaron Yoho, for turning me on to the show.
	After listening to Sunday's show, I decided to stop being a boner so Adam could take care of his hot mic issues.
	Merry Christmas.
	I'm not really into reciprocating oral sex, so let's just do 68-68 and I'll owe you one.
	Aha, a joke.
	Can I get a jobs, jobs, jobs, two to the head, little girl, yay.
	Yeah, I think we can do that.
	Here we go.
	Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
	Let's vote for jobs!
	Yay!
	Eric Henry, Orlando, Florida, also off the reservation with 6776.
	Oh, I like that.
	Little palindrome.
	Donating for my birthday today, $50 for you guys, $17.76 for the year of our revolution.
	This also happens to be the refund for two douchebag buttons from No Agenda Nation.
	I think if Eric got a little more plugging, he would have made them.
	Oh.
	Remember the douchebag button?
	I didn't know.
	Oh, well, it's just scraping by.
	Living the American dream in Orlando.
	I noticed the other day there are no nights living in Orlando.
	What?
	It's what he says.
	Please call me and all my fellow Orlando-ites out as douchebags.
	Douchebags.
	Eat more Orlando-ites to be Orlando Knights.
	At this rate, with my paltry donation, I will be the first.
	Please give a special douchebag call out to Mac Farrell.
	Matt Farrell, can you get two to the head, rain stick karma?
	You didn't bring the rain stick, did you?
	No, and even if I had, this is the last place I would shake that thing.
	I don't blame you.
	Some karma for you two and the guys working on No Agenda Florida.
	Hopefully they will host a downloadable file soon.
	Okay.
	You've got karma.
	Charles Peden, Keeneville, North Carolina, 6666.
	Nice.
	I'm donating $333 for my buddy David Fox for his 33rd birthday on December 5th, and $333 for myself and my 33rd birthday on 12-12-12.
	Wow.
	David would like a 3 is the magic number with a lone wolf mixer, and I'd like an Atlas Shrug Karma as I close down my business and live the American dream of just getting by.
	All right.
	That's the magic number.
	It is.
	It's the magic number.
	Atlas Shrugged.
	By Ayn Rand.
	BANG You've got karma.
	All right.
	Nailed it.
	Dale Carpenter in Macon, Georgia, 6209.
	Greetings from Gitmo Nation pickled pig's feet, which, by the way, if done correctly, are delicious.
	I want to wish a happy first birthday to my human resource, Emmeline.
	She really enjoys listening to the show and dances to most of the jingles.
	Can I get an in the morning little girl yay karma?
	Thanks and keep it up.
	In the morning little girl yay.
	We can absolutely do that.
	In the morning.
	Wow!
	You've got karma now.
	Udger A. Reich.
	Berlin.
	55-55, after getting cease and desist letter, including a 400 AA damage to 600 blah blah blah legal fees for stealing a bad movie, I decided to start to pay for my entertainment.
	Please de-douche me and give me some karma for me and my wife Louisa.
	In addition, I request the following ringtone.
	Adam, surfer dude, hey man, your phone is ringing.
	John, grumpy voice, nah, just ignore it.
	Okay, so we'll do that and then we'll follow it up with a de-douching and a karma.
	Hey man!
	Your phone is ringing!
	Nah!
	Just ignore it!
	You've been de-douched.
	You've got karma.
	David Humphreys in Dallas.
	Tex Nuts.
	555.
	Please keep doing the show.
	Ha ha ha!
	Having your work with ICE is the worst, or having to work for ICE is the worst.
	I'm so sorry you are stuck in Holland, Ms.
	Mickey.
	I'd like a two to the head for McAfee.
	This was definitely a hit job, and karma for Adam and Ms.
	Mickey.
	Thank you so much.
	You've got karma.
	Highly appreciated.
	Robert Stokes in Middothian, Texas.
	55-55.
	Send some Stevens sisters and oil and gas karma to a good friend in Oklahoma City.
	Maybe the freeloading douchebag will get off of Santa's naughty list this year.
	Oh, I'm sorry.
	Seven sisters.
	Yeah, the seven sisters as in the seven oil sisters.
	Alright.
	Sir Stone in Rapid City, South Dakota at 55-10.
	Double nickels on the dime.
	Which is a dying donation, by the way.
	I don't think people even remember when we started Double Nickels on the Dime.
	And it was really the first donation that was a kind of...
	Gimmick.
	Yeah, out of a first numerology donation.
	So yeah, 5510, Double Nickels on the Dime.
	We have Swazilinoff.
	We have 99999.
	We have 1212s.
	We got all kinds of stuff.
	And by the way, we didn't make any of this up.
	None of this was our initiatives.
	None of it.
	What our listeners want us to do.
	Deconstruct the news and give them value for value.
	Sir Stone is giving thanks for the best podcasts in the universe.
	Really appreciate the community that helped me make money on Etsy.com or RoryStone.com.
	Giving back because I know officially...
	I am now, is what he's trying to say.
	I'm now officially supported by the No Agenda community.
	Douchebag, call out for any non-donors.
	Douchebag!
	John Oper in Austin, Florida.
	55.
	Greetings.
	I don't know what I'd do without the best podcast in the universe.
	I've been feeling guilty about my donations lately.
	Last time I donated was back in John's birthday.
	Now that Adam is a gypsy, I must step it up.
	Saying that I would like to call out two of my friends who talk about donating, but don't.
	The first is Chad Lastin.
	Douchebag!
	He punched me in the mouth in January of 2012.
	The second is Jeff Holland.
	Douchebag!
	I punched him in the mouth several months ago.
	Please bitch slap these two fine gentlemen with the douchebag as we did.
	As for me, please just give me two to the head.
	Shut up, slave.
	Karma, John and Adam.
	May the Schwartz be with you.
	Shut up, slave.
	You've got karma.
	Anonymous in Bilauna, BC, British Columbia.
	This donation from your friends at www.isuyu.com.
	What is this?
	We don't deal with immigration, but we support Miss Mickey and the Podfather on their quest to be coming to the USA. Love you.
	The donation dude, president of isuyu.com.
	Let me take a look at this.
	National debt chart.
	What is this isuyu.com?
	Interesting.
	Brett Farrell in Millboro, Virginia, who sends us $50 every...
	I don't know what their frequency is, but it's at least once a month.
	But without a note.
	Cameron Smith, the wangery Northland somewhere.
	Thank you for show...
	It is $50 for show for success...
	It was a classic.
	Please send some karma for my beautiful, incredible, amazing Brazilian wife, Ana Lucia, and a parliament grumble.
	So, do I have to do it in that order, or can I just roll out the parliament mumble and then do the karma?
	I think that sounds better.
	That's what I would do.
	You've got karma.
	Lisa Carter in Lakeland, Florida.
	The nation made the name of my fiancé, Carl Dietrich, for his 34th birthday.
	Okay.
	Nice.
	Daniel Kruse in Zurich says, You look like I need another drink.
	Quite sure what the point is.
	That's okay.
	It's true.
	I could use a drink right now, for sure.
	Bernie Atima finally in Hinton, Iowa.
	$50 now to conclude our donation segment for this show, number 468, after the incredible 467, the classic, as mentioned by...
	I'd like to remind people to go to Dvorak.org slash NA and help us out for this Thursday show, which will also be done on the road, and Adam won't be any happier than he is now.
	Well, the only thing that's going to be different...
	First of all, we're both going to have to reconnect.
	I can't even hear myself...
	Through the echo on this thing.
	And then I'm just going to go and spend the money we've received today on getting gear.
	Because this is not the best.
	In fact, this is the worst podcast in the universe.
	Can you reconnect with me for a second?
	Can you even hear me?
	I hear you're fine.
	Yeah.
	Reconnect, will you?
	Just see if we can get rid of this echo, because this is just like crazy.
	So, I'm just...
	There we go.
	Yeah, thank you.
	Disconnected from server.
	Let me reconnect.
	There we go.
	Reconnected.
	Let's see if...
	You there?
	Yeah.
	Say something.
	Hello.
	Yeah, and now there's no echo.
	Unbelievable.
	I love it!
	Well, groovy.
	Let me hit this.
	So we will definitely be working on some of the equipment since it's going to be for an extended period of time.
	We'll get a couple things set up here, and I will definitely move my location from the radiator.
	I'm literally falling down from heat exhaustion in front of this radiator.
	It's crazy.
	Place to place all that stuff there.
	Oh, who knew?
	Just turn off the radio.
	It doesn't have a knob on it.
	You can twist it.
	It turns it off.
	No, it's stuck behind some thing.
	Well, maybe I can turn it off, but, you know, it's like, this is a small place.
	There's only one, you know, one knob for everything.
	Don't worry about it.
	Let me congratulate a couple of people who are celebrating birthdays.
	Lisa Carter says happy birthday to her fiancé, Carl Dietrich.
	He turns 34.
	Charles Peden congratulates himself turning 33 on 12-12-12.
	Quite the date.
	We have Eric Henry.
	He is celebrating today.
	Christian Schroeder congratulates himself celebrating tomorrow.
	And Wiley Harp, congratulations again.
	12-12-12.
	Happy birthday from all your buddies here at the No Agenda Show.
	I just want to faint.
	Is it that hot?
	Well, yeah.
	It's open a window.
	No, it's minus 8 degrees outside.
	That'll blend with the heat of this thing.
	It's not going to blend at all.
	Yeah, yeah, it will.
	And what's great about it, you get to feel that two kinds of atmospheres in the same room.
	It's cool.
	Could you please just grab your sword?
	That's all we really need right now.
	I still have it.
	Wiley Harp and Stephen Bowe.
	Step forward, please.
	Both of you have reached that level.
	That level that means that you've donated a sufficient amount to the best podcasts in the universe.
	and that is part of our model that we call value for value.
	I hereby can proudly pronounce thee, Sir Wiley and Sir Stephen, Knights of the No Agenda Roundtable.
	Gentlemen, come on down for your herkers and blow, your rent boys and chardonnay, your hot pants and booze, your wenches and beer, Rubin's, women and rosé, Geishes and sake, vodka, vanilla, gerbils and ginger ale, and mutton and mead.
	We can't add much more to that list.
	Was gerbils in there?
	Did you hear that?
	Yeah, I heard you say gerbils.
	Gerbils and ginger ale.
	That's the...
	Yeah.
	Terrible.
	I've been saying it for three weeks, and now is the first time you're hearing it?
	Yeah, I've never heard it before.
	Well, you will be happy to know the press is very peeved.
	The...
	The White House has now said that not only are they going to do the inauguration of President Obama on Sunday, they're going to do it in private, and they have not invited the press to be a part of this ceremony.
	We've been going on about this for a couple weeks now, but of course it all really started when the president was inaugurated the first time around, and they did that twice.
	And according to John, that was of course because there are two Obamas.
	And they're just holding, they're just keeping the whole vibe going, but the fact that they are not going to allow the press to be a part of the inauguration is, well, suspicious to say the least.
	Maybe he does a pledge to the devil.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, he wears a black kind of a thing, and they have the pentagram.
	Beelzebub.
	And he pledges allegiance to the devil, and they don't want the press seeing that.
	Only Hillary.
	Ugh.
	Well, it's funny, because on C-SPAN, it was almost like a...
	It was like a 10-minute video about how awesome Hillary is.
	And they had all these world...
	No, seriously.
	You've got to see this.
	Did you see these numbers on Hillary?
	Apparently 57% of the electorate will vote for her tomorrow to be president.
	Oh, well, that's what it was about.
	And you have Tony Blair and Shimon Peres and just every single elitist douchebag.
	And then we have Ehud Barak, who is...
	What is his current title?
	I don't know what he has one, does he?
	I must.
	Douchebag.
	Yeah.
	Israeli douchebag.
	In this video, he says the following thing.
	Hillary was flying so much and popping up in all corners of the world almost simultaneously that we launched an investigation through our intelligence community.
	They found that surely there are two Hillary's.
	There you go.
	Two Hillary Clintons.
	Not just two Obamas, but two Hillary's.
	It's possible.
	That's why one of them doesn't sweat.
	Yeah.
	Wait, did you have any thoughts on the nurse being suiciding herself?
	That one who picked up the phone for the queen?
	Yeah, well...
	So first of all, we don't actually know that she suicided herself.
	This is the thing that bothers me, is that this is not...
	That has not been confirmed, so we don't know that.
	That is just a...
	You know, that's just what people are thinking.
	What I find unbelievable is that...
	If it is true that we have this...
	So there's a lady who lives in a palace in the middle of London, an old lady, and she is so important that when someone makes a joke about her and that someone mistakes her voice for someone else's, they get so upset by the media...
	Did they go kill themselves?
	I mean, what kind of insane world are we living in?
	And by the way, that would be the same lady whose daughter-in-law was killed by the same media.
	I mean, the whole thing is just bizarre to me.
	Bizarre.
	I think the nurse knew something.
	No, I... I, you know...
	What could it be that she would know?
	How about...
	Reptilian babies.
	Oh, there you go.
	They actually have twins.
	They have twins.
	The way it works, they got twins, and in the womb is one mammalian baby, and they have to wait for the lizard baby to eat the other one.
	Okay.
	Thanks, John.
	Using me and David Ikes.
	You've really cheered me up.
	Hey, here's what I don't understand.
	Did we have a donation from Mike Elgin?
	No, I didn't see that.
	Yes, Mike Elgin, who you called out as a douchebag, it came in after the midnight deadline.
	So he'll be thanked for it.
	He actually became an associate executive producer for the next show on Thursday.
	Okay, because I guess I signed up for Google Plus at some point.
	No, I didn't sign up for it.
	I had a Gmail account.
	I have a calendar.
	And so, you know, you get all these emails about Google +, and because he mentioned me, and, you know, so he wrote this blog post about, you know, how he got called out, so we'll talk about that.
	But then, there's all these people who posted?
	They all hate me!
	Well, this is where you got to that hate me thing.
	Yeah, but they really hate me!
	They really hate me!
	I'm like, wow!
	Oh, okay.
	Oh, you poor thing.
	Well, really...
	Meanwhile, the war on weed continues in the United States.
	Here's a little clip which kind of sets up the issue.
	Here's part of a letter he signed with 15 other members of Congress from around the country.
	We ask that your departments take no enforcement action against anyone who acts in compliance with the laws of Colorado, Washington, or any other states that choose to regulate Now, the only response we have from the feds is a statement issued yesterday by the U.S. Attorney here in Western Washington, Jenny Durkan.
	She says the department's responsibility to enforce the Controlled Substances Act remains unchanged.
	Growing, selling, or possessing any amount of marijuana remains illegal under federal law.
	This is very interesting, of course, the news media, particularly in Washington.
	I haven't seen too much news media in Colorado, strangely enough, although it's got to be out there.
	You know, it's like, are we really going to see the federal agents move in and arrest people in a state where this is now legal?
	Do you really think that's going to happen, John?
	Do you think that Obama is that stupid?
	Happened in California.
	Yeah, but it was different.
	It was medicinal marijuana, and it was kind of...
	Which is even...
	Medicinal is like...
	There's about 14 states where medicinal marijuana is legal, and they promised when Obama ran in 2008 that they were going to lay off, and then meanwhile they've been busting places left and right.
	They don't go after individuals in California.
	They go after the middlemen, the distributors, and the growers.
	So here's another thing.
	Can't you just grow it yourself?
	Do we really need to have a whole industry?
	Can't you just throw some seeds into the ground and just grow their own stuff?
	Is that also illegal?
	You can't grow it yourself?
	People do that in California.
	Right.
	But is that still illegal?
	Yeah.
	It's not illegal in California.
	I think if you have a prescription for marijuana in California, which I think anyone can get if they wanted one, which may not be a value.
	I'm almost recommending people do that because that way if some idiot's in your car and he's carrying around a bag of marijuana for some stupid reason and you get busted, you've got the prescription on you.
	Right.
	So it doesn't hurt to have one.
	And I think those people are allowed by law to grow it if they want, I think.
	Hmm.
	Okay.
	Meanwhile, this is coming to a head.
	It's going to be very interesting because this is, as you pointed out on the last show, this is really about states' rights.
	And the way I understand the Constitution is only things that are expressly laid out by the Constitution is what the federal government can be in charge of.
	Everything else is the states.
	So if you want to have gay marriage or people want to marry horses, if you want to smoke dope, I mean, that's all the states get to determine that, correct?
	That's the theory, yeah.
	That's why the Tenth Amendment is particular.
	It actually says that in the Constitution, but a couple of paranoid founding fathers pushed the Tenth Amendment to emphasize, to re-emphasize states' rights.
	And so they put this amendment, which essentially, in the Bill of Rights, which essentially reiterates what's already in the Constitution, that they...
	Which just essentially limits the federal government to the specific things that are listed.
	Yet still, there's this thinking that now if the government, you know, you get it all the time, federal, Trump, state, and that's bogus.
	I mean, it's been going that way, and so everyone just kind of accepts it, but it's nonsense, and somebody's got to put a stop to it because it's ruining the country.
	We don't have a national government.
	Why don't we just have a national government with a national police?
	Which is kind of the FBI. Well, the funny thing here is that in Europe, they're all talking about how there seems to be such an obvious push to turn Europe into a federal system like America.
	And I'm like, no, because the states in America actually have rights and they trump the federal government.
	But the belief here is, which it's kind of almost a self-fulfilling prophecy, is that the way that Europe should be is just like America, where the federal government is in charge of everything.
	But it's like, that's not the way it's supposed to work, although it seems like that is the way it's working more and more.
	Well, that is, you know, internationalists or people who want to create one world government have to push in this direction because Because if you really have it set up the way the Constitution worked and with the Tenth Amendment and all, there's no way...
	In fact, this kind of works, by the way.
	Switzerland is the perfect model for this because in Switzerland, a lot of stuff never happens because all those little provinces, these little state-like entities throughout Switzerland, essentially have veto power over the federal government.
	And so a lot of stuff never gets done in Switzerland because one little county, one little group of people says no.
	But that's kind of the way it's supposed to work here.
	And when you have that sort of a setup, it's impossible to join a one-world government.
	You know, the UN is...
	You really shouldn't be signing some of these treaties because some state may disagree.
	Say the state of Washington has a marijuana...
	Legal marijuana law.
	And they just want to keep it that way.
	And the UN takes over the world, and they say no more drugs anywhere.
	This doesn't fit into the way our system is structured.
	You can't do that.
	We can't have this sort of thing, and that's...
	So the push for the people who are internationalists and who just think it would be great to have one world government, they have their personal reasons, which I accept.
	It's rational.
	It's mostly so rich people never lose their stuff again in a war.
	They promote this federal government as the king of everybody idea, and they stay with it.
	And you know that if you're going to go that way, yeah, then it's very easy to turn over sovereignty.
	Without anyone complaining.
	So that New World Order thing, there's something to it after all.
	What?
	So that New World Order thing, there's something to it after all.
	Ha!
	Yeah, there is.
	I was reading the, you know, we have the WCIT taking place right now, the World Conference on International Telecommunications.
	This is the ITU, the International Telecommunications Union, who, you know...
	They keep changing their name.
	Yeah.
	Well, it is the ITU, but it's the WCIT number 12 that is taking place right now in Dubai up until the, I think, maybe the end of this week.
	And so they have this big meeting and they're kind of leaking documents or documents are being leaked or being, you know, kind of wiki-leaked, if you will.
	And so here's one of the latest documents, the proposal for the work of the conference.
	This is from Russia, the United Arab Emirates, China, Saudi Arabia, Algeria, Sudan, and Egypt.
	And it's kind of just a couple of things that are interesting.
	So it is indeed true what they're trying to do.
	And I don't think it's going to happen at all.
	In fact, I think it's a red herring.
	I think this is just meant to distract us.
	But they are literally trying to turn the Internet into the way that telcos work.
	Well, I have a couple of highlights here.
	here.
	Hold on a second.
	Where is it?
	Where...
	Okay.
	Operating agencies shall determine by mutual agreement which international routes are to be used.
	Member states shall have sovereign right to establish and implement public policy.
	These are all very typical telecommunications rules and regulations.
	But they want member states to ensure that operating agencies inform every roaming user...
	An internet roaming user, promptly and free of charge of the number to be used for calls to the emergency services.
	You understand how ridiculous this sounds?
	They literally, they're so dumb, or it's just a copy-paste of some other document, that they're saying that if you are in another country and you're using the internet, you will be a roaming user, And you will be informed of what number to use to call for emergency services on the internet.
	This is literally in their document.
	For the internet.
	Yeah, I don't know what that even means.
	Well, it means that they don't know what they're talking about and they don't actually know how it works.
	Oh yeah, it's possible.
	That's exactly what it means.
	This is so obvious to me that these people had no idea how the internet works.
	They're just sitting there going like, okay, it's running over telco lines, so we might as well just do everything the way we've been doing telco for years and years, not understanding at all how...
	Peering arrangements work and transit, how it's purchased, or how border gateway protocol balancing is.
	They don't want to understand any of this.
	And even worse, they've defined what spam is.
	This is great.
	Because, of course, they've heard that spam is a problem, so they're like, okay, we're going to eradicate spam, and we're going to do that through legislation, and here's how we're going to do it.
	First, we're going to identify what it is.
	Listen very closely.
	They're going to tell us what is spam and what isn't spam.
	Spam, colon.
	Information transmitted in bulk over telecommunication networks as text, sound, image, tangible data used in a man-machine interface bearing indiscriminate advertising nature or having no meaningful message simultaneously or during a short period of time to a large number of particular addressees without prior consent of the addressee As in a recipient to receive this information or information of this nature.
	That is spam.
	Note, here it comes, spam should be distinguished from information of any type, advertisements, inclusive, transmitted over broadcasting networks.
	So what they're saying is, when they determine it's spam, it's spam, but when it's advertising, it's not spam.
	Well, there's more...
	No, I don't think that's what that said.
	I think it is.
	Spam should be distinguished from information of any type such as advertising transmitted over networks.
	What they're saying is that spam is not advertising.
	You said advertising transmitted over broadcast networks.
	Let me read it again.
	No, of any type, advertisements inclusive transmitted over broadcast networks.
	I think they mean the same type of networks.
	No, no, they mean television.
	Hmm, okay, I could be wrong, man.
	Well, I don't think you're completely wrong, though.
	No, I still, what I think they're saying is, if it's advertising, it can't be spam, but if it's spam, it can never be advertising.
	No, no, I don't hear that at all.
	Okay, what do you hear?
	I hear that they are trying to distinguish their crappy definition of spam with broadcasting advertising, where you turn on the television and you don't want to see this thing, this ad, for whatever reason.
	Tree manure or whatever.
	And how is that?
	In fact, that's the question.
	That's the philosophical question.
	I turn on the television.
	Is that spam or is that advertising?
	Exactly.
	Yeah, is that spam or is that advertising?
	I believe it to be...
	Spam.
	If one's spam, the other should be spam.
	Yeah.
	That's kind of the point I'm making.
	That's kind of the point you're making.
	That's not the point you're making, but now it is.
	And I think it's a good point.
	But...
	It's not a good thing.
	Maybe advertising just go by the wayside.
	People should either support something or not support it.
	Advertising is designed to get your money.
	Well, I'm not anti-advertising.
	I think there's value to advertising.
	No, there is.
	We wouldn't know about certain products and services if there wasn't advertising.
	Okay.
	I'm not against it.
	I just don't see how it's valuable for the programming that it follows up.
	I have advertising channels.
	I still think that would work, by the way.
	Yeah.
	Advertising channels?
	It's a station of nothing but ads.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	It's called MTV. Are you bored?
	Turn on K-Ad.
	K-Ad.
	You won't be bored for long.
	It just plays nothing but ads.
	All the good ads from everyone.
	Some of them gratis.
	Ow.
	Two.
	So, yeah.
	Oh, man.
	I'm just going to reconnect for a second.
	I don't know if it's me or you.
	Who knows?
	Oops, oops.
	I'm just, oops.
	I'm just wondering, I don't, hello?
	Yeah, what?
	Yeah, it's funny, because when I reconnect, then the echo goes away.
	So, sorry, I'll just do it from time to time.
	Not a big deal.
	Okay, here's, so there was another reason for the right-wing guys to, led by Rick Santorum, by the way, that UN disability thing.
	Oh, you mean the ratification of the treaty that didn't happen?
	Yeah.
	Right.
	Rick Santorum has a disabled child, and there's no reason for him not to want this unless he found something in there.
	So what they decided...
	So Chris Matthews and his douchebag buddies brings in a guy, asks him a couple questions about why he would vote against this.
	The guy has a reasonable answer.
	Then Chris Matthews changes the subject...
	With an idiotic example.
	And then the guy tries to explain more, and the other douchebag says, hey, you're changing the subject.
	And he never changed the subject.
	Chris Matthews did.
	I can't watch this guy anymore.
	Look, the more control we give...
	In the U.N., it's control we're taking or we're losing U.S. sovereignty.
	Well, how does that work?
	Explain how that works.
	No, explain in this case how that works.
	Let me give you an out in this case.
	Okay, as you said before, in the U.S., we have made great progress with people with disabilities.
	Rick Santorum has a child who is a special need child with a disability, so he took a hard look at this legislation.
	And the problem is, this isn't as Bob said.
	Bob was doing pretty good until this point, but he's wrong on this.
	This isn't where they're going to take U.S. standards and then apply it worldwide.
	This is saying that we're going to put the U.N. in control.
	Many countries...
	Name how.
	Name how.
	Stop using generalizations.
	Well, let me give you one.
	Name what's going to happen.
	The U.N. would get to, under this treaty, decide what is considered a person with a disability.
	Not the U.S. The U.N. would do that.
	So a lot of families with people with disabilities and family members with disability were very nervous that what this ultimately was going to do was let the U.N. and countries with terrible human rights records decide who is disabled and how that's going to affect us.
	Let me answer the question.
	Go ahead, Bob.
	What would they do?
	Would they go into the homes in Pennsylvania or Virginia, Rick Santorum's house, go into where he teaches his kids, and use their helicopters from somewhere out of the country?
	How would they get in our country to do this stuff?
	Here's the problem with U.N. treaties.
	America lives up to their promises and their agreements and their treaties.
	You just shifted the argument.
	You just shifted the argument.
	Chris asked you a question.
	Are they going to go into Rick Santorum's house and tell him he can't homeschool his kids?
	No.
	No.
	You know, I think we have to have a new rule.
	I think the new rule is no more Chris Matthews clips.
	This guy makes me so angry.
	It's really annoying.
	He brings somebody on to explain their position, steps all over them, talks on top of them.
	It's unbelievable.
	No, but all I'm seeing is just...
	It's MSNBC, right?
	I'm just...
	MSNBC, it's just...
	There's no reason for its existence anymore.
	There's never been a reason for its existence.
	Well, yeah, it was.
	It was to get Obama elected.
	And to incite racism.
	And to incite all kinds of hatred.
	And to polarize the entire country.
	Yeah, I think that's the job.
	I think it's going to be taken over by current TV. Yes, we need more Chunk.
	More Chunk.
	Well, I mean, Chunk is over there, and so is Granholm, and so is some other...
	Joy Behar now, she's over there.
	How does she get a show there?
	I don't know how she gets a show anywhere.
	Yeah.
	So she's over there.
	They're all over there.
	They're all moving to current, and it's the same crap.
	And the guys in MSNBC are blowing it.
	Oh, by the way, they got Touré has his own show.
	Oh, yeah.
	Oh, yeah.
	He's horrible, by the way.
	I had a clip from him that I didn't want to put on.
	Again, it was him inciting racial hatred.
	It's just that's all I hear from these people.
	So, Fox, I think, are rejiggering their entire baborama completely.
	They're bringing in brunettes.
	Good ones, good looking ones.
	Oh, okay.
	They're moving a bunch of the blondes out.
	They've gotten rid of a couple of their pundits.
	They're not using them.
	In fact, apparently, Karl Rove and Dick Morris have been put on the blacklist.
	Oh, that's just...
	No, it's because they're going to have to restructuring the whole operation.
	You watch.
	More democratic nature.
	Exactly.
	Yeah, just more.
	Just more of it.
	Well, in that regard, I'm really glad I'm gone for a little while.
	My goodness, I don't miss any of that.
	Here's a perfect example of some douchebaggery at work and how funny it is and how people don't even realize how sick the whole system is when it comes to who's going to be ambassador.
	Okay.
	Vogue will report this morning that the president could appoint Vogue's famed editor-in-chief, Anna Wintour, to be his next ambassador to England or France.
	More on what could be a very fashionable decision today.
	This is not unusual.
	Savannah, you've covered Washington.
	You know that this is part of the job.
	I think something like 30% of appointees to ambassadorships are political.
	It's a reward for people who raise a lot of money.
	Yes, and this, I mean, either France or the UK would be considered the plummiest of plum assignments.
	Yes, that's the one to have.
	She raised more than $500,000 for his campaign, so we need to get on the ball so we can get in that residence.
	Well, what the heck?
	I'd like to live in the Bahamas.
	I think they should make Anna Wintour ambassador to Libya and put her in Benghazi.
	Or Nairobi.
	Kenya.
	It really is unbelievable...
	It does actually happen.
	I mean, you become an ambassador after you raise a lot of money, and she and, what's her name, old tickletoes there, Sarah Jessica Parker, they raise a lot of money, and do you think she'll actually become the ambassador to the UK? Could be.
	It wouldn't surprise me.
	Wow.
	He doesn't like working.
	You know, Vanity Fair and the whole publishing company that owned them has been sold to Advance.
	She's Vogue.
	She's not Vanity Fair.
	She's Vogue.
	She's still a big shot.
	But the budget, it's not like it used to be.
	In the olden days, before Advance Publishing took over all these operations, they used to be just a limitless expense account.
	It's like old-fashioned publishing used to be in the 30s.
	They would give you all the money you needed to make a splash.
	Now there's a penny pinching.
	She can go get back to her unlimited budget by becoming the ambassador to England.
	Seriously, she just likes this.
	She's a party girl.
	She never smiles.
	I think she looks pretty young, but I believe, if I'm not mistaken, she's 83.
	In the morning...
	By the way, I want to mention before we wrap, as we're starting to do, I do have an end of show clip that I want to explain.
	I have Carl Levin, that same thing where he goes and he says, I'd like to amend the bill and blah, blah, blah.
	You're this boring thing that we played last show, a couple shows ago.
	Carl Levin is at the end, he said, Senate, doing the end of Senate business, sir.
	They're passing quick legislation.
	Oh, right, right, right.
	Yeah, where they do a million different things.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah, of course.
	Nurses home week and all this bullshit.
	I've decided to sweeten it.
	Because I think they could actually make it interesting if they would practice what I did.
	And that is literally just adding a few bells and whistles, not gunshots necessarily.
	There is one in there.
	And a music soundtrack.
	And I want to credit the Bohunks, who are a Holland band, that have pretty much...
	Taking everything from this famous symphony composer, Ferd Grofey, I think is how you pronounce his name, who did, if you've ever been to Disneyland in Anaheim, they have the...
	Grand Canyon Suite plays on the train ride.
	He wrote that.
	But the guy also wrote all the little jingles and ditties for Laurel and Hardy and Our Gang and those kinds of things, which the Bohunks have found the scores of, and they've actually made all these.
	They've made a bunch of clips that you can use.
	And I just want to think people should go and get Bohunks albums.
	But this is, to me, is the...
	Would improve C-SPAN a lot.
	Well, I think in general that we should consider sweetening all of this kind of stuff.
	Yeah.
	Just to make it more entertaining.
	Yeah, it doesn't hurt.
	They try to do that on CNN. Yeah.
	All right, everybody.
	We're going to get some equipment and see if we can improve some of the connectivity and whatever it was that was going on during this show.
	Apologies for some of the distortions.
	But know that we are here gallantly fighting against all evil in the world, essentially with a rubber knife.
	At least that's what it felt like to me.
	Not essentially.
	Yeah.
	A rubber knife and a compass.
	So coming to you from Gitmo Nation lowlands here in Amsterdam, nowhere near Rotterdam.
	In the morning to you, I'm Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley, which is also nowhere near Rotterdam, I'm John C. Dvorak.
	We'll be back on Thursday right here on No Agenda.
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