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	I think it's a new use for roofies.
	Adam Curry.
	John C. Dvorak.
	It's Sunday, October 7th, 2012.
	Time for Gitmo Nation Media Assassination Episode 450.
	This is no agenda.
	Hunkered down in the city of Douche from Washington in the District of Columbia.
	In the morning, everybody.
	I'm Adam Curry.
	And back in northern Silicon Valley, I'm John C. Dvorak.
	It's Craig Vaughn and Buzzkill.
	In the morning.
	In the morning.
	Yeah, that's right.
	Bringing you, once again, the best podcast in the universe.
	In the morning to you, Citizen John.
	All of a sudden, you sound great.
	In the morning to you, Adam Curry.
	In the morning to all ships that see boots on the ground, subs in the water, and the knights who support this show so generously.
	Indeed, indeed.
	And you can hear I'm...
	The minute the show starts, here they come.
	They're out to get me.
	That's unbelievable, the amount of sirens here in Washington, D.C. Oh, really?
	And a lot of the cop cars here, some say county police, but then there are a couple that say police and it says Homeland Security.
	How does that work?
	Well, they've given themselves the police power.
	It must be.
	And they're the ones that are always with the screaming sirens.
	Oh, yeah.
	Homeland Security, step aside, son.
	They're just essentially promoted rent-a-cops.
	It must be.
	And I also must say, a big in the morning to everyone listening to this program on WBCQ. Beaming out with 50,000 watts on 7.490 megahertz.
	How's that?
	What is that?
	Yeah, one of our producers is putting us on a 50,000 watt shortwave.
	Oh, on shortwave.
	That's great.
	So we really are beaming out to all ships at sea.
	Hello, Ghana!
	Jonestown!
	CQ Jonestown!
	That's awesome!
	Let me just get the...
	So we have...
	It's 7.490 megahertz, and I think...
	Maybe it's also on 5.110 MHz.
	Do we have to do call sign every 15 minutes?
	Do we have to say WBCQ here with the No Agenda Show?
	I don't know.
	I don't know either.
	I mean, there's rules, but I don't know about rebroadcasting our show being included.
	I like it.
	He'll find out with a nasty letter from the FCC. FCC, yeah.
	I'm tickled pink.
	Well, I'm taking my test.
	I think it's third week of the month.
	I can take my technical test in Austin.
	Good.
	Yeah.
	We can test the repeaters.
	Oh, yeah.
	No, I'm looking forward to it.
	It's going to be fun.
	So I got a package in the mail.
	You'll get one when you get back to home base.
	Okay, we're leaving tomorrow, so looking forward to it.
	What is in the package?
	The new HealthySurprise.com box.
	Oh, nice!
	Is it big or is it the smaller box?
	It's the smaller box.
	Yeah, we love the HealthySurprise.com box.
	It's great.
	So there's one in here that's pretty funny.
	And they're actually quite good.
	They're called Coco Runes.
	Coco Runes?
	Are they like macaroons?
	Yes, but they're wonderfully raw.
	Made of cocoa.
	And here's the bowl crap that's on the back.
	You know, raw almond.
	It says raw almond flour.
	Oh.
	And then it has an asterisk.
	And it says...
	May contain flour.
	Yeah.
	It says our almonds are from California and by law have to be pasteurized.
	However, the oils within remain raw.
	Well, isn't pasteurization like nuked with radiation?
	No, no, it's just boiling.
	Oh.
	Interesting.
	So how does that, tell me, explain this to me.
	I just didn't ask Adam.
	How do you pasteurize half the product and the other half still remains raw?
	How does that work?
	They probably only boiled a little bit on the outside.
	It's bullcrap!
	Don't boil it too much, son.
	Everything will be good.
	I don't know.
	I don't know.
	I just want to mention that we're still in Washington, D.C. We've been here for the Emerge Art Fair.
	This, of course, has been my supporter of Ms.
	Mickey, who has been so kind to support our show, in a trailer, I might add.
	At least she put me in a...
	Well, it's kind of a hotel.
	You know, it doesn't have room.
	Let's face it.
	It's kind of a motel.
	Well, I went down this morning to have breakfast, and I was just wearing, like, my...
	You have to see what I wear when I do the show, but...
	I really don't want to see it.
	Suffice to say, the guy at the quote-unquote restaurant looked at me, and I said, yeah, I'm wearing my pajamas, okay?
	Just give me some coffee.
	Wait a minute.
	You went down and out of the room?
	Pretty much.
	Down to a restaurant in pajamas?
	Pretty much, yeah.
	Oh!
	Well, that's where we're getting here on the show, the No Agenda show, ladies and gentlemen.
	No Agenda show.
	How you doing?
	And there's people from Taiwan.
	What are you looking at?
	Pretty much.
	And there's people from Taiwan and like Denmark, and they're giving me the evil eye, stink eye.
	I'm like, what's it to you?
	My hair is all messed up and stuff.
	I don't give a crap.
	You couldn't slip on a pair of pants?
	Well, no, I had...
	But they're pajama kind of pants, with pockets.
	So...
	Anyway, so we're here, and very exciting.
	Miss Mickey's...
	And one of her pieces of art was featured in the printed version of the Washington Post yesterday.
	And, of course, she's now sold some pieces.
	So it's very, very exciting for her.
	Ah, the power of the press.
	Yes.
	And, of course, Washington Post is great.
	They never tell a lie.
	They're awesome.
	Yes, exactly.
	That's how it works.
	Power of the press.
	But man, I have some stories to tell.
	But maybe we should thank some producers first.
	Actually, let me start off by thanking Martin J.J. for doing the album art on the previous episode.
	Outstanding job.
	We always look forward to what our artists produce for us.
	And of course, you can always see all of the art that is produced for each and every single episode.
	Even though they may not be chosen, they're great to print out and make coasters of.
	You can find that at noagendaartgenerator.com.
	Would it make a great coaster set?
	Yeah, it's not a bad idea, actually.
	And it doesn't just have to be the ones that were chosen for episodes.
	I mean, you could do all of these.
	Well, some of them are lewd.
	So?
	Well, I guess.
	Alright, so I want to thank Thomas Rice for being an insta-night.
	Whoa!
	Hello.
	Came in from Brooks, Alberta.
	Where all the money is.
	Where all the money is, and I believe he just stepped outside and he said, oh, wait a minute, there's a bunch of money laying around.
	What did I find here in the corner of my pocket?
	So he grabbed it, and then he...
	We're still actually in a dispute with PayPal over this money, I might add.
	Oh, really?
	Yeah.
	How does that happen?
	For one thing, he somehow sent it to the old, original account.
	Right.
	It has very little traffic, and then this $1,000 shows up.
	So they sent him a note saying, are you sure you're sending $1,000 to these guys?
	And he said, yeah.
	And so they grilled him again.
	What?
	Yeah, and so then they grilled me.
	And I said, yeah.
	And then they grilled him, and they grilled me.
	I mean, it's ridiculous.
	You're kidding me.
	No, we may have to actually cancel the money and send it to the other account or something.
	Who are these Duchenheimers over there at PayPal?
	That sucks.
	I sent it to my...
	We have special people that supposedly help us and we'll find out on Monday when they get back to work.
	You mean people who listen to the show or people that we have on the inside of PayPal or both?
	I don't know.
	They contacted me once.
	It doesn't matter because we give them the benefit of the doubt.
	Yeah, he's an instantite.
	Michael Kearns, Sir Michael Kearns to you in Platte City, Missouri, came in with 450.
	Oh, holy moly.
	And he is the member of the 450 Club.
	The only member, and it's great to have you there, Sir Michael Kearns.
	Good choice.
	Good choice.
	Shane Castile, Baton Rouge, Louisiana, will be an associate executive producer.
	And he says, see email for further information.
	There was no email.
	Shane, you have to send it again.
	I looked in my spam box.
	I looked in mine too.
	Yeah, because it came in.
	I was like, all right, I'll look for it.
	I didn't see anything either.
	Because it's information on the knighthood and name information.
	So we want to make sure.
	Hopefully he's listening.
	I don't want to...
	Do we want to wait with his knighting, then, perhaps, in case he wants it to be a...
	No, no, no, it's fine.
	No, he's got the money in.
	No, I know, but maybe he wants to...
	You know, he doesn't want the knighthood bestowed upon someone else, perhaps?
	We want to make sure we do it right.
	Uh...
	Look, you know...
	I didn't get any indication.
	Oh, no, because he had his ring size added to his follow-up.
	All right.
	Well, you don't have to, like, groan at me.
	Like, it's, you know...
	Uh...
	Just because it complicates things.
	But when you do that...
	You forget to do it.
	You'll end up a black night sometime in 2014.
	When you make this sound...
	Could you just do that?
	When you make that sound...
	Could you follow that with one sentence?
	You make the sound and then you say...
	I'll just have an apple in my room.
	I have a what?
	An apple in my room.
	I'll just have an apple in my room.
	Okay, I'll try it.
	I'll give you the benefit of the doubt on this.
	Okay, here we go.
	I'll just have an apple in my room.
	Is that good?
	Thank you very much.
	Did I nail it?
	You nailed it.
	That's what my great-grandmother used to say.
	That sound that you made at the beginning was the same.
	And they said, I'll just have an apple in my room.
	Because the dinner wasn't right or whatever.
	You nailed it.
	Well, that's the way you pass off the lousy cooking of the host.
	Thank you for nailing that.
	That was very important.
	Kevin Fairchild, Land O'Lakes, Florida, $250.
	Going to send blankets and water, but I decided to just send cash.
	I've been a total JCD fanboy ever since the days of Silicon Spin, though I was sad when CrankyGeek sent it.
	I was able to find him active here and on Twitch.
	Stay cranky, John.
	I'd appreciate it if Adam could send me some two-to-the-head karma.
	Oh, I'd be much obliged to do that.
	You've got karma.
	There you go.
	Of course.
	Enjoy that.
	Andrew O'Fisher?
	You think that's what his name is?
	I think it's O'Fisher?
	As in...
	Hey, O'Fisher!
	Hey, O'Fisher!
	What's up, Chicago?
	I'm fine.
	I'm fine, O'Fisher.
	I had nothing to drink.
	So what's your last name?
	O'Fisher?
	Hey, what are you doing?
	Hey, you smartass!
	He's in Chicago too, which is an interesting place to be from.
	200 bucks.
	First time donor to the best podcast in the universe.
	Can I get a de-douching and some karma?
	Yeah, hell yeah.
	You got it.
	You've been de-douched.
	You've got karma.
	Greg Filer in Lauderdale, Minnesota, is our last associate executive producer for today's show, $450.
	$200 again.
	Roommate of longtime listener Sir Eric L. Bodenstab and finally started listening to more than short sound bites.
	Don't know the last time I laughed that hard.
	I guess that's good.
	I guess that's a compliment.
	He's laughing at our deconstruction.
	Or just the general Armageddon that our world is going through.
	Well, that's good.
	I want to remind people to help us, continue to help us throughout the week.
	Dvorak.org slash NA is a place to find the donation page.
	ChannelDvorak.com slash NA is a backup.
	Also, NoAgendaNation.com and NoAgendaShow.com have buttons you can hit and get to the donation page that way.
	We want to thank everybody and even the lesser donors for helping us.
	Oh, absolutely.
	Yes, absolutely.
	As we are on our way towards our fifth anniversary, which is October 23rd, and more importantly, I would say, this Thursday will be 10-11-12, which is a very special number.
	It happens once every, what, 100 years, I think?
	10-11-12, yeah.
	Which equals 33, for those of you who had not thought.
	Right, I'll put that in the next newsletter.
	That might be a thought.
	It might be a donation karma opportunity for people.
	A bonanza.
	I don't mind it, 33 would be the donation.
	That would be the level.
	Alright, for those of you who have just tuned in for the first time, you are listening to...
	The best podcast in the universe!
	Or at dot org slash NA. That's right, it's a jingle bonanza, and please help us propagate the formula.
	Our formula is this.
	We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
	New.
	World. Order.
	Shut up, Slade.
	Hey.
	Yo.
	So, I need to discuss something technical just briefly here at the top of the show, because I think there is something wrong with the Apple reality distortion field that we need to look into, and I know we have a lot of producers who listen to this program who understand these things, and I just haven't been able to get far enough, because people are like, you stupid disc jockey, what do you know?
	Shut up.
	So we moved to a single hosting solution offered to us kindly by the troika of Mr.
	Oil.
	We've got Void Zero.
	We've got Gitmo Slave.
	These guys kind of run the infrastructure.
	And the main reason is we wanted to be independent and not have to rely on someone else who we can't call, i.e.
	Mevio.
	And, you know, because we had a couple problems, so we moved everything over.
	And this actually happened during the tour, the Hot Pockets 2009 tour.
	For you new listeners, that was this past summer, not three years ago.
	And everything was running well, and then all of a sudden we started having problems.
	And here's how I boil down the problem.
	iOS 6 for the iPhone was released before the iPhone 5, and we started to see a lot of traffic coming to our MP3 files, a substantial amount of more traffic.
	Now, and this is not so strange, because I think a lot of people who listen to the program as a podcast get it on their iPhone.
	It seems to be kind of still the prevalent device out there, certainly for people who are subscribed and automatically get it when the show is released.
	But what we were seeing is these iPhones connecting, disconnecting, and then starting the download over again.
	So we kind of saw our outgoing bandwidth go up quite a bit.
	Then the iPhone 5 was released with this new iOS 6.
	And it's been out of control.
	It's almost like a denial of service attack.
	And it is directly related to the way the iOS 6 software downloads.
	And I've been able to corroborate this with other people.
	They're seeing similar behavior, but more importantly, people are running out of their AT&T or Verizon bandwidth because their iPhones are doing this.
	And what happens invariably is when we have all these iPhones kick in automatically to try and download the show the minute it's released, then we don't have a CDN. We can't afford anything as luxurious as that.
	So then it almost looks like A denial of service attack, then stuff starts to break, and then any phone or any computer will have a download issue for a while until it kind of shakes out.
	That can take one or two days.
	And this has been a really big problem.
	And I'm looking squarely at it being an iOS 6 HTTP downloader library problem.
	Not necessarily any of the apps, but how the apps access files on the internet.
	And so hopefully people can look into that and help us out because we just don't have a CDN and, you know, CDNs are much better at handling this kind of traffic in a distributed manner.
	So we just don't have that.
	So it's hurting the show.
	Apparently.
	Yeah.
	And I don't know what to do other than just say, hey, help.
	Well, you know, Apple's too busy fixing their stupid maps.
	You know, they got no time for us.
	I think it's an attack on podcasting.
	It's a war on podcasting.
	Exactly.
	Bastards.
	We need a jingle for this.
	A war on podcasting.
	Otherwise you're going to have to hear it on the shortwave.
	Which I hear is doing quite well.
	50,000 watts.
	That's a lot of watts.
	That's a pretty big state.
	I wonder how much...
	The guy must have a diesel generator.
	And with that kind of, take it off the grid, with that kind of, with the frequencies that they should be getting a lot of tropospheric bounce, so we probably can be heard in Africa.
	Hello, Africa!
	Hello, Libya!
	Well, since we're on Africa as a topic, how about playing the clip?
	Just to keep people up to date, when we started this show, we picked up on this Chinese and Africa trend right away because of some meetings we had with people.
	Really?
	I don't remember you having a meeting There was some guys from Germany that clued me into this when I was in Toronto about what was going on.
	And I brought it up on the show a number of times.
	Correct.
	I consider that a meeting.
	It was over a beer and a bar.
	Oh, that's a meeting.
	Yes.
	Okay.
	It is a meeting.
	A beer and a bar is a meeting.
	And it's a good meeting.
	So I thought we'd update everything and play the...
	We got a couple of clips here.
	China's in Africa update.
	This is from China.
	Okay.
	...looking so well and enjoying the stage experience.
	Well, in the final instalment of China Invest, we go to Africa.
	China, being Africa's biggest trading partner, has inspired praise, envy and criticism.
	Much of the criticism comes from the US, most of the praise from Africa.
	At least one survey taken in 10 African countries shows that Chinese trade and investment is viewed overwhelmingly favourable.
	Our correspondent Rochelle Okufo, a citizen of Ghana, has this report.
	The shortest route to downtown Nairobi, the capital of Kenya, is now this smooth ribbon of asphalt built by the Chinese.
	Many here also see it as the shortest route to prosperity in East Africa.
	In a country where the average per capita income is just $1,800 a year, Nairobi's legendary traffic jams cost the Kenyan economy an estimated half million dollars a day in extra fuel and lost man hours.
	But it will do more than save Kenya money.
	It will make money too.
	When completed, this 50-kilometer stretch of highway not only will complete a ring road around the city, it will be a link to neighboring Ethiopia, supporting an expansion of trade to a market with some 80 million people.
	It will ease traffic pressure, create job opportunities, training and skills for locals on this project.
	95% of staff are locals.
	China is already Africa's single largest trading partner, and there's more investment capital on the way.
	Hey, how come we can't get some money from them Chinas for the show?
	Well, as things progress, I think it's possible.
	Come on, man!
	I do have...
	They're investing in the U.S. I have an end-of-show clip that talks about that a little bit, because it's pretty peculiar what they're investing in.
	But then meanwhile, of course, the Chinese report...
	By the way, I want to say I've noticed this, both with RTV, the Russian propaganda outlet, And CCTV, they are being a little more aggressive at being critical.
	You know, they set up shop here in the U.S. to have their little stations.
	And they have been pretty reticent to go after the government because they don't know.
	And so now, more recently, they're just giving it to us.
	And I think clip two has got a little zinger that's quite funny.
	This is CCTV? Is that what this is?
	Yeah, Central China Television.
	Where are they headquartered?
	Where are their studios?
	Are they in Washington, maybe?
	Their studios are in China.
	Oh, okay.
	I thought they had, like, RT has local studios in Hoboken or whatever.
	As far as I know, the Chinese have no studios here.
	Okay.
	All right.
	At the China Africa Forum in Beijing this year, Chinese President Hu Jintao pledged a $20 billion line of credit just for the next three years.
	With this expansion have come charges of exploitation, mainly from those competing for African business.
	On trips to Africa, U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton warned of a new colonialism threatening the continent.
	The majority of Africans see things differently, preferring China's influence over America's by a wide margin.
	Hillary's complaining that China's in her game?
	Is that what I'm hearing?
	Yeah.
	That's funny.
	One U.S. survey conducted in 10 African countries found respondents overwhelmingly in favor of a Chinese connection.
	In Kenya, 91% of respondents said China's presence was positive, versus 74% who felt that way about America's.
	The spread was bigger in Senegal, narrower in Ghana.
	In Tanzania, a majority, 52%, thought American influence was a bad thing.
	Without a doubt, China has had a huge correlation with the increase in African GDP. And let me quickly tell you why.
	What happened was Chinese demand increased the demand for African commodities, lifted the price structure, so we effectively got a much better price for the things that we were selling.
	Although Chinese investment in more than 50 African countries has grown exponentially in the past decade, one country has done more trade with China and received more Chinese direct investment than all the African countries combined.
	The United States.
	Rochelle Akufo, CCTV, Washington.
	Yeah, see, I think we should be talking to them.
	I mean, first of all, their reports are really dry and boring.
	If they want some kind of...
	Oh, you think?
	If they want some kind of news going on, you know, the Curry-Devorak Consulting Group can certainly do a better job than that.
	Oh, yeah.
	I mean, please.
	Please, you're killing me.
	Yeah, they're dreadful.
	Killing me with this.
	Wow.
	But anyway, I didn't realize that they were the number one trading partner with China.
	Oh, that doesn't surprise me at all, actually.
	No, it doesn't surprise me, but I didn't know it.
	Yeah.
	Apparently we've just been screwing the Africans over the years.
	We give them some food and give us stuff free.
	It's been interesting here in D.C. because there's a lot of Africans here.
	The cab drivers, the guys in the restaurant, the guys sweeping the 7-Eleven.
	And you know me, I'm like, hey man, where are you from?
	I hear someone with an accent.
	By the way, they're not all black.
	This is a crazy thing.
	And I said, where are you from?
	They're like brown, all kinds of colors.
	Where are you from?
	Oh, Nairobi.
	Oh, where are you from?
	What was the other one?
	No, not Nairobi.
	Nigeria.
	I said, oh, I got an email from your brother.
	The guy didn't get that one.
	But you can say to every single one of these people, I think I've mentioned it before, just say, oh, a lot of Chinese there.
	And their eyes light up.
	And then they're like, yeah!
	Yeah!
	Yeah!
	They just love it when you say that, because no one here in America knows anything about it.
	They're like, I'm from Nairobi or wherever.
	They have no idea where that is.
	Americans are too stupid.
	So they feel kind of left alone and isolated, except in their own little community.
	And so if you just come into their life, into their path, and say something like that, they love it.
	And even if you don't know where the hell the country is, just say, oh, China.
	China's in there.
	And they'll tell you all kinds of things.
	They won't stop talking.
	It's great.
	Well, except for the won't stop talking.
	Well, it's nice, you know, in the cab, you know, it's like you're driving around.
	The guys are, it's nice.
	I like it.
	I like it.
	We had a different cab driver here that I could hear in an accent.
	He said, where are you from?
	Jerusalem, Palestine.
	Oh, you're Palestinian.
	He says, that's right.
	In 1948, there wasn't no Israel.
	Like, oh god, hold a grudge.
	No grudge whatsoever there.
	Yeah, it's an interesting melting pot here in D.C., that's for sure.
	I got, this is the just-in-time for Cybersecurity Awareness Month.
	You know, of course, we have to, we've scared the congressmen and the senators.
	That's what Janet Napolitano said, quite literally.
	You know, I really hope I I scared the bejesus out of them so that they can pass all these stupid laws.
	And, of course, we have to bring this home now.
	Obviously, we're going to scare all of you individuals, how your children aren't being safe.
	But just in case you have a small business, we want to scare you into accepting legislation after the executive order comes out.
	Oops.
	And, of course, I would have to hit the right button.
	It's like a digital form of kidnapping.
	Computer data held for ransom by hackers using a sophisticated new scam known as ransomware.
	Silicon Valley correspondent Dan Simon is...
	Wait a minute.
	Wait a minute.
	Hold on a second.
	Yeah.
	This is an old story.
	It's back, baby.
	It's back.
	Okay, play it.
	But, do you know this Silicon Valley correspondent they speak of?
	Dan Simon?
	I didn't hear his name.
	What is it?
	I think it's Dan Simon.
	Let's check again.
	Held for ransom by hackers using a sophisticated new scam known as ransomware.
	CNN's Silicon Valley correspondent Dan Simon is looking into it for us.
	Now, do you know Dan Simon?
	Is he a regular there on the Silicon Valley circuit?
	I never heard of him.
	Exactly.
	Steve Merrifield owns a high-end sporting goods shop.
	After 27 years in business, he'd been preparing to sell it.
	All the records for potential buyers stored on his computer server.
	So Merrifield was more than concerned when he realized all of his data had been frozen.
	The last words I remember is, this is not good.
	This is not good.
	It turned out hackers had taken control of his machine and flashed a message.
	For $3,000, Merrifield could have his data back.
	But it didn't stop there.
	He'd have to fork over an additional $1,000 for each week he didn't comply.
	You have to understand that this may be two or three months old, but this, John, is Cybersecurity Awareness Month.
	Oh, exactly.
	So this is why...
	It's just so blatantly obvious how they do this.
	This is an old story.
	I think I first heard of this about, I think, almost a year ago.
	Yeah.
	Oh, yeah.
	That's how old it is.
	And you can go online and you can get all the ways to get out of it.
	It's not like this is unescapable.
	You can always reinstall the operating system if you wanted to, and that would make a difference.
	Yeah, there's a lot of ways of getting out of it.
	Exactly.
	Exactly.
	You just boot up from something else, and then it's good to go.
	But I was just like, wow.
	I mean, there's so many things.
	Of course, we have the huge...
	Wait, hold on a second.
	Yeah.
	They mentioned all those options, I'm sure, in the story.
	No.
	No.
	I'm sorry?
	No.
	I must have not heard you.
	You said no?
	No.
	No.
	They recommend getting the most recent antiviral software from your trusted provider.
	Yeah.
	Like these McAfee people.
	When will someone really catch on that it's these guys that put the viruses out there?
	I mean, come on.
	This is such an obvious scam.
	Big government contracts.
	Jeez Louise.
	This is like the ratings agencies.
	Why would anyone trust them?
	So there's been a lot of really interesting legislation and all kinds of things happening because, oh yeah, we've been distracted by some bull crap.
	For those of you who are not in the know, I'm glad that we have our senior financial analyst with us here, economist and Nobel Prize winning economist John C. Dvorak, to explain the latest surprising jobs numbers to us.
	Yeah.
	The jobs numbers actually are a new, I think it was 118,000 in the plus side of the column, which is about 32,000 low from what is needed every month, which is 150,000.
	Now somehow, I don't know how they jiggered it around, but they somehow managed to make it sound like there was 800,000 when there wasn't, and then the unemployment's dropped to 7.8% because they needed to get underneath that magic number.
	And it's like nobody's buying into this.
	It's just like a joke except for the MSNBC. Well, it's not just MSNBC. And I'm actually very angry because it's like, hello, only one person can actually legitimately call himself the crackpot.
	And now they're calling Jack Welch a crackpot.
	They're calling all these other people crackpots.
	It's like, get out of my business, will you?
	Come on, move away.
	Yes, Jack Welch, for people who don't know, tweeted.
	Yeah, that's the funny thing.
	I can imagine him tweeting.
	That's the funny thing.
	Hey, honey, how do you turn this thing on?
	Well, his wife is pretty smart.
	I want to tweet.
	Yeah.
	So, um...
	Okay, so...
	I tweeted that this is bogus.
	Okay, so can we...
	Now, because you are the one that has always been explaining, re-explaining the U6 numbers, how we, you know, the bum factor, where the labor participation, people just fall off, you know, fall off the edge of the chart and are living on the street, and therefore are no longer counted, and that helps the number change.
	I mean, is this truly bogative?
	Well, let me see.
	What do you mean?
	You haven't looked at this yet?
	I haven't looked at it, but I've decided I'm going to look at something I find more interesting, which is John Williams' Shadow Government Statistics.
	Ah, yes, this is the one that we have.
	ShadowStats.com.
	We have discussed this previously.
	This is a good site to go to.
	Okay, ShadowStats.com.
	My problem is...
	My problem is, is that around, and it's getting worse, but around, it looks like, right after Obama got in, the government number started to trend down, and this, for the first time, by the way, there's three numbers.
	He's got the U3, which is the one that's official, it's 7.8 now.
	The U6, which is the old calculation.
	And shadow stats, the SGS number, which is based on the way it would have been calculated during the Depression.
	Yeah, and that's the blue line.
	That's the blue line.
	Right.
	And the lines are always parallel.
	They were just off by, you know, each one was off by about 2.5%.
	The U3 was always 2.5% less, or up to 5% less than the old U6, which they don't talk about anymore.
	And that was about 4% less than the SGS number.
	And they've always been in a parallel.
	It's like those chalk things that you use.
	You put the chalk in a little holder and then you can make a straight three lines that are together and you can move them up and down.
	Yes, I remember those from my chalk days.
	Nobody knows what I'm talking about.
	Anyway, when Obama got in, for the first time that I've ever seen, the SGS numbers were going one way while the government numbers were going the other, causing a huge gap.
	Right now, the true unemployment rate, which I believe is the SGS number, shadow government stats, is just around 24%.
	Yeah.
	That's how many people are unemployed.
	And people, you go out and hang around, about a quarter of the public is unemployed.
	So that's, what, 80 million people?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	So, okay, that's what the numbers are.
	So that's what your entire theory is based on?
	Is it on a website?
	You crackpot?
	Yeah, apparently.
	Well, that is what we have been following.
	And so where does this guy, John Williams, is he a Nobel laureate?
	Oh, he's just some statistical nut.
	Okay.
	He's a guy in his way to me.
	I know that I never met him.
	He has no cred.
	I should go out of my way to meet him because I believe he's in San Francisco.
	I think I'll do that.
	But whatever the case is, I just imagine him to have one of those visors that's kind of a clear green.
	After I meet him, I was finding he's different, but I imagine him to be sitting around going, that's not right!
	He probably wears a Polo and drives a Corvette.
	He could be.
	With a Rolex.
	One of the two.
	It's one of the two.
	Anyway, mind the gap, John C. Dvorak says.
	Be careful of that gap.
	It is pretty amazing when you see the chart.
	I mean, you can look at it, shadowstats.com, right on the homepage, you click on that chart, the red, gray, and blue chart in Biggins, and you look at it, it's like, wow, alright.
	And you can actually change...
	I think you can download his data, right?
	And you can do stuff with it.
	It's a really great website, and the newsletter is even better if some people want to subscribe to it.
	Anyway, so of course, but this is obviously the October surprise.
	Some surprise!
	And this is the, well, it's been quite amazing.
	I think this is the exact same number that was Bush's worst, right?
	George W., I think the 7.8 or 7.9, it was somewhere around that region.
	But it's perfect.
	So now this is down.
	And I would call it some...
	I would definitely call it a...
	Well, don't worry.
	Why don't they talk about the gasoline prices?
	When Obama got in, it was $1.86.
	Well, so this, of course, I believe, is the counterpunch.
	Should we get the, all right, so you sucked at the debate.
	Oh, yeah?
	Watch this.
	Watch the job numbers.
	Oh, yeah?
	Watch the gas prices.
	While AAA reports the statewide average is a record high 461, it's well above that in many metropolitan areas, and at some stations, far above that.
	I got gas yesterday at 469, and today I saw this at 569, and I said, no, I'm not going to get it.
	In San Francisco, the average is 469 a gallon.
	The lack of buyers at a station charging 509 shows drivers do have their limits.
	The fast-rising prices are linked to a string of supply disruptions, beginning with a huge fire at a San Francisco-area Chevron refinery in August.
	On Monday, a power failure shut down an Exxon Mobil refinery in Southern California, and a crude oil pipeline in the state is also out of service.
	California pollution rules require a gasoline blend that isn't readily available from refineries outside the state.
	There's nothing else I can say.
	So there's a couple other things going on in the oil business, but maybe we just stick with California for a moment, and then I can talk.
	Because it seems like the new thing is, we need to get prices up, so let's start a fire.
	We've got a fire at TNKBP in Russia's Saratov oil.
	We've got a broken stuff and a fire in Texas.
	It's just like, hey, we need prices to go up.
	Light the fire.
	Light the fire, break something, break the pump.
	And this is, is this just very typical for California?
	Or is this possibly a reverse October surprise where the oil cabal jumps in?
	Because the prices literally went up 50 cents in a week per gallon in California, which of course is President Obama's big hometown.
	Well, first of all, no one is going to set a fire at a refinery as some sort of a ruse.
	Well, why do you say that?
	Those things are extremely dangerous, those refineries.
	The possibility of it getting out of control and blowing the thing to sky high.
	Hey man, we're talking about the presidency of America.
	I don't put anything past people like that.
	Well, why would the president want the gas prices to go up?
	No, no, no, no, no, no.
	I'm talking about the Republicans wanting the gas prices to go up.
	The Republicans are incompetent.
	So anyway, let's just go with it.
	They got matches.
	I mean, I don't know.
	The distributors have set the prices.
	I'm not absolutely sure of it, but I don't think the California blend is that different than any other blend in the U.S. I think that's a bullcrap argument.
	The air pollution blends of petroleum products, gasoline in particular, have been normalized, I think, throughout the country.
	There's no reason to...
	In other words, what you're putting in your car in Connecticut is junk?
	I don't think so.
	So I think that's bull crap.
	I think this is just...
	I don't know.
	I think it's just rigged.
	It's just rigged.
	There's no reason to...
	And they blame it on everybody.
	Oh, pipeline pump went down.
	Oh, gas has got to go up 10 cents.
	Okay, so then...
	But it's the same thing.
	So whatever's going on, they blame it on that.
	And maybe...
	Who knows about the fire?
	I haven't looked at the fire.
	Maybe it's just like some wood burning over there.
	You know, it looks like a lot of smoke.
	You know what?
	Like a real fire.
	But you're saying the same thing.
	You're saying it's bullcrap, it's set up, and they're just raising the prices because they can, and I'm saying they're raising the prices because they can, only I'm saying maybe they lit the fire so they could say they could raise the prices.
	It's the same thing.
	Well, yes, your premise is questionable.
	Oh, well, okay.
	Well, they've got to blame it on something.
	They're blaming it on the fire.
	Well, the joke is that when the fire took place around here...
	Two months ago.
	Yeah, months and months ago.
	And by the way, I can see the refinery from the hilltop.
	So, I mean, it's right there.
	I take pictures of it once in a while.
	There's a refinery.
	Is it still burning?
	And it wasn't that bad.
	The thing wasn't burning to the ground, let's put it that way.
	But they immediately jacked up prices the next day by 15 cents.
	Good!
	That's what you get for living there.
	Well, it's a big scam.
	Well, maybe this has something to do with it, because there's a whole bunch of things going on at the same time.
	And California, and Los Angeles in particular, is of course...
	A very strange place for people to live.
	They truck their own water.
	Don't they pump the water over a hill, over a mountain that's pumped up 2,000 feet?
	Yeah, they drained Owens Valley and turned it into a desert.
	It used to be one of the great agricultural growing areas because they have all this natural water.
	Right.
	They sucked all the water out of the Owens Valley.
	This is a movie in Chinatown that discusses some of this.
	And they gave it all to L.A.
	So the Owens Valley is like a vast wasteland.
	It's actually depressing when you fly over it.
	Right.
	But if something happened to that infrastructure, to the pumps and the pipeline, then L.A. would essentially run out of water.
	Yeah, quite quick.
	Right.
	So you see how quick they apparently ran out of gas because whether it's just prices or not, I mean, there are pumps that are closed because they can't afford the gas.
	They can't afford to sell the gas, right?
	So maybe this ties right into this bill that, let me just bring this up for a second here.
	House Resolution 6566, introduced September 28, 2012.
	This is meant to amend the Homeland Security Act of 2002.
	To require the administrator of the Federal Emergency Management Agency, we know that as FEMA, to provide guidance and coordination for mass fatality planning and for other purposes.
	Very short bill, John, but I think we should just read through this so people know what is being amended and then we can question why.
	Okay.
	Okay, here we go.
	Yeah.
	Findings.
	Congress finds the following.
	Emergency preparedness often plans for how to prepare and provide for survivors of a natural disaster, act of terrorism, or other man-made disaster, but fails to plan for how to prepare for and respond to mass fatalities that result from such an incident.
	I mean, you know, when I'm sitting at home, I'm thinking we need to know, if I'm in Congress, like, you know, I think we should have a bill about what happens when all the people die, all the dead people, from terrorism, natural disaster, or other man-made disaster.
	So, Section 3 of this bill calls for preparedness for mass fatalities resulting from a natural disaster, active terrorism, or other man-made disaster.
	The administrator shall provide guidance to coordinate with appropriate individuals, including representatives from different communities, private sector businesses, non-profit organizations, and religious organizations to prepare for and respond to a natural disaster, active terrorism, or the man-made disaster that results in mass fatalities.
	Yippee-yayay!
	Time to celebrate!
	Come on!
	What is this about?
	Yeah, yeah, I know.
	A bunch of people sent us that.
	Did you read it?
	I don't know.
	Did you read it?
	Yeah, I did.
	I just said, this is weird.
	I mean, it came in as the, oh, it's FEMA camps, you know, that bullshit.
	No, no, no, no, no, no.
	This is not about FEMA camps.
	I don't think it's FEMA camps.
	It's just we need to prepare for the mass fatalities.
	I'm like, well, where's that coming?
	I don't know.
	Sounds like somebody knows something we don't know.
	Exactly.
	So did you see this thing that came talking about that crazy stuff?
	Did you see the thing?
	Oh, let me dig this up.
	Did you see the thing about...
	No.
	Oh, never mind.
	I can't find it.
	This is great.
	No, I didn't.
	Yeah, I know.
	This is a great show we do here.
	What are you talking about?
	About the book that's coming out that documents Obama as being gay?
	No, I have not heard about this book.
	And that it was an arranged marriage between him and Michelle.
	It was put together by Reverend Wright.
	This is not news.
	This is like old conspiracy theory.
	Yeah, and that Michelle Obama actually spent most of her time living at the Jesse Jackson house.
	Yeah, she was supposed to marry Jesse Jackson Jr., but because he's insane, in fact he's in the psycho ward right now, he couldn't become the next president.
	Because that's what the book claims is that was the plan.
	Yeah, that book?
	Oh.
	You don't actually give that any credence, do you?
	No, I just think it's hilarious.
	Yeah.
	Well, you know, just Google the name Larry Sinclair.
	That's the only guy you need to hear from.
	You've never consulted a book of knowledge about Larry Sinclair?
	I think a long time ago when we first started talking about him.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Just Google that.
	It doesn't really matter.
	It doesn't really matter.
	I don't think that book will really see the light of day.
	Unlike, however, this is quite interesting, in the ongoing scampaign for the...
	Most important spot in our government, the new Bin Laden movie.
	Now, of course, we had the one that the Pentagon essentially helped produce, and by the same people who did the Hurt Locker, and they said, oh, well, you know, we don't want to be confused with the, you know, to be seen as trying to do anything to help the president get elected.
	We're not going to show that movie until after the election.
	But now Harvey Weinstein is out and helping the president.
	Now this movie is called Seal Team 6, the raid on Osama Bin Laden.
	It's what the Nat Geo Network calls the first fact-based film.
	First of all, Nat Geo is, I guess, CNN code for National Geographic.
	And apparently it's the first fact-based film.
	Nat Geo.
	Yeah, that's how you got to say it.
	Nat Geo, everybody.
	Nat Geo.
	I guess saying National Geographic takes up too many words and you can't put in enough commercials.
	So Nat Geo.
	But it's the first fact-based film they're going to put on the air.
	It is ever aired.
	Ever.
	Ever.
	The first facts ever on Nat Geo.
	Like you alluded to, what has everyone paying attention to this is that it's a movie distributed by the Weinstein Company, and Harvey Weinstein is a well-known President Obama fundraiser and supporter here in Hollywood.
	Now, this is only airing on television on Sunday, November 4th, but that's just 48 hours before Election Day.
	Now, there is a similar movie, Randy, that dramatizes the Bin Laden raid, and that movie is Zero Dark Thirty.
	This has been in production for several months, This movie has been criticized in some circles as being what people are calling propaganda for the Obama administration.
	I love how she said propaganda.
	That's not true.
	Propaganda.
	Ridiculous.
	That movie decided, here's what we're going to do.
	We're going to move the release of this movie until after the election.
	But Randy, you know, this movie on the Nat Geo network seems to have come out of nowhere and landed a TV slot.
	And you know, with the Weinstein backing, they had to figure that this was going to raise a lot of questions, especially right before the election.
	So, you know, a lot of people look at this, though, and they think, well, this could be just one really long campaign ad.
	Really?
	Really, Randy?
	Yeah, you know, and that's what I'm sure the Romney campaign and the Republicans are saying we don't like this because it could.
	It very well could.
	But here's the thing.
	It is on the...
	This isn't a news station.
	Well, I'm sure that's what them Republicans and Romney campaign will say.
	It could, it could, but.
	Nat Geo Network.
	So it's not like it's a theatrical release.
	It's not like it's on a major network.
	It is on a cable channel, a little cable channel.
	A little cable channel.
	With Harvey Weinstein's backing, you can bet that it is going to get a lot of publicity.
	Yeah.
	Like we're doing right here.
	I mean, the incestuousness of this blows me away.
	It's like, no one's going to watch it because, you know, it's just a little itty bitty cable channel, Nat Geo.
	But of course, if we talk about it enough, people might go and watch it.
	And, oh yeah, I mean, that might be a political campaign.
	Them Republicans might say that.
	But this brings me to something that happened to us here in Washington, D.C. that warrants some conversation.
	We were propagandized, and it was good, I have to say.
	Hold on a second.
	What was?
	Hold on.
	Mickey, what are you doing?
	Somehow, Ms.
	Mickey is in bed.
	She's not feeling well, and then all of a sudden she just turned on the stream.
	So this, of course, is propaganda, obviously.
	Chewing up more bandwidth at the house.
	I know.
	Try to tell her.
	It's not the house.
	It's the hotel room.
	So, yes, so this Nat Geo documentary by Harvey Weinstein is, of course, propaganda.
	Now, here's what happened.
	We are in D.C., and remember I told you about Wendell Potter, who I met in Chicago when I was speaking at the Cusp Conference?
	He's the whistleblower who used to be the head of communications for Cigna, and he wrote the book Deadly Spin, which is a big inspiration for a lot of the pharmaceutical or big pharma research work that I've done that we've discussed on the show.
	You remember the guy?
	Yep.
	Okay.
	So he's in town.
	And he says, hey, let me take you guys out to lunch.
	And, yeah, very nice.
	And Wendell's, I think he just turned 61.
	He used to be a reporter in D.C. a long time ago, and then he became the...
	Head of corporate communications, then he blew the whistle on Cigna, wrote this book about, basically, he calls it the sickness industry instead of the health industry, and they just want to make you, keep you coming back for treatment and be sick and not actually cure you.
	You don't have to read the book.
	It's all done.
	Now you can talk about it at cocktail parties.
	So he takes us out to lunch, and then he takes us to the press club, which is kind of a treat because he's still a member of the press club.
	You ever know the press club?
	Yes, I know the National Press Club.
	You're talking about the one in Washington, D.C. Have you ever been there?
	No.
	Oh, so it's kind of cool.
	So, you know, he takes us up to the bar, and it kind of oozes of all the old drunk douchebags who were hanging out there.
	And there's one or two, you know, like, asleep in the corner snoring.
	But it is literally that, you know, the brown leather chairs, the bar, and the...
	It's a club.
	It's a club, yeah.
	And, hey, and Mickey had her camera, and, like, three people said, You can't take pictures here!
	I'm just holding on to my camera, man.
	I'm not, like, doing...
	Just so you know, you can't take pictures.
	Photography forbidden up here at the press club.
	Whatever.
	Yeah, that would be right.
	Yeah.
	Because they're all drunk.
	And then he says, you know, hey, I'm here in D.C. because they're screening a movie that I was interviewed for, and would you like to come tonight?
	And the movie is called Escape Fire.
	Have you heard of this?
	Because it just came out this week.
	Okay.
	So Escape Fire is...
	It turns out...
	So we go to this so-called independent movie theater...
	And it's the West End Theater.
	And the flyer's right there.
	It's called Escape Fire, a film by Matthew Heinemann and Susan Fromkey.
	A must-see, says Andy Kaufman of the Village Voice.
	And this is the first thing that tipped me off.
	An inconvenient truth for the health care debate.
	I'm like, oh, okay.
	So then we're in this movie theater.
	It's like maybe 80 seats.
	And we're sitting there, and it's literally a digital projector with a screen on the wall.
	But it's a property that's blacked it off, and there's air conditioning.
	But you probably have a bigger projection screen at home.
	And they start off with some trailers, and then coming soon to this theater is Arbitrage.
	That's the Richard Gere movie.
	I'm like, what?
	This is an independent theater.
	How come they're running that?
	So I had to put this all together later on once we got home, because it took me quite a while to figure it all out.
	So you'll find out that Roadside Attractions, which is distributing this Escape Fire movie, which is supposed to be this small, independent movie, this documentary...
	It's being distributed by Roadside Attractions, who also distribute the new Richard Gere movie, Arbitrage, which is a Weinstein company.
	So, just to put that into your head.
	So, this movie is really good.
	There's a whole bunch of storylines in it, and it's showing you how the healthcare industry is really just trying to keep you sick, get you on pharmaceuticals.
	There's a soldier in there.
	Sergeant Yates, which is...
	I have not been able to track this guy down, interestingly enough.
	And, you know, somehow the documentary crew gets on a C-130.
	This guy is coming back from Afghanistan.
	He had a platoon of 23.
	Only 8 cam came back down off the mountain.
	The guy's on, you know, like 100 different psychotropic drugs.
	And he goes to the Cleveland Clinic, and he eventually learns how to wean himself off all of the drugs through a combination of yoga, meditation, and some acupuncture.
	Now, what's interesting is I have not seen this Sergeant Yates interviewed anywhere.
	Can't find him.
	Sergeant Yates is also a very funny character on Family Guy, which always makes me suspicious when they choose a name like that.
	So there's just a lot of good things.
	But the movie doesn't really go anywhere.
	It felt like it was mis-edited.
	And the whole idea of the title Escape Fire, as it starts off and says, when forest fires, when they first discover you could create an escape fire by lighting a fire to protect yourself so you can get away, that was a revolution in firefighting.
	We need the same thing in healthcare.
	We need to light some fires to change the healthcare industry.
	And, you know, they actually even showed Obama sitting there with some of the insurance companies.
	By the way, I'm going to interrupt.
	Yeah.
	Sergeant Yates is not on Family Guy.
	He's on South Park.
	Oh, I'm sorry, South Park.
	Thank you.
	Even better.
	Even funnier.
	So I can't find an interview with this guy, and he would be prime, of course, to interview.
	I've seen interviews with the filmmakers.
	And I'm sitting next to these two women, and I already feel an air of something.
	I don't know what it is.
	But then the movie ends, and then they do a Q&A. They do a Q&A with a couple people in the audience, and Wendell is one of them.
	And by the way, they didn't do Wendell any justice.
	He talked about what he had done, but they really didn't...
	And I know his shtick by now.
	He has a whole bunch of solutions that he thinks is a way to fix this.
	That doesn't come out.
	And there's no real clear explanation as to what the escape fire for our healthcare industry is, which is obviously based on volume, not based on curing people.
	So the more patients you can run through the system, that's how everyone makes more money instead of making more money for people being cured.
	And then they hand out a sheet.
	So these people get up on stage, three of them are not in the movie, or have nothing to do with the movie, and it's a woman from the NAACP, who is not in the movie at all.
	There is a representative, congresswoman from the District of Columbia, I didn't even know they were allowed to have one, but apparently the District of Columbia does have representation, only she can't vote.
	I didn't know this.
	Puerto Rico does, too.
	In fact, it's exactly the same rights as Puerto Rico.
	Eleanor Holmes Norton.
	Right, she's a blowhard.
	Oh, let me tell you.
	Wendell's up there, and then two doctors.
	And they hand out this sheet, Doctors for America.
	And I'm like, looking at this, and it's at drsforamerica.org.
	You can go to the website.
	It's located at 1333 H Street, Northwest, 10th floor, in Washington, D.C. I'll do the work for you, John, because I've learned this from you.
	You Google that.
	That also happens to be the same floor where the Center for American Progress is located.
	There it is.
	Yep.
	And this whole sheet is about the ACA. Are you familiar with the term ACA? No.
	It is the shorthand version.
	It stands for Affordable Care Act, i.e.
	the Affordable Health Care Act.
	And now I'm like, wait a minute.
	And then, you know, people are asking really good questions and they're answering it all the same way.
	Well, the Republicans are doing the wrong thing and we can't elect Romney.
	They even had a shill in the audience.
	A woman stood up who had been sitting next to this Horton woman, Norton.
	What's her name?
	Norton.
	Holmes.
	Holmes Norton.
	She'd been sitting next to her during the whole movie.
	She stands up.
	Whoa, whoa, whoa!
	Did you think that on the debate that Governor Romney was insane?
	And she asked the question to Wendell.
	And I could see Wendell go like, I don't think I should answer that because I don't want to politicize anything here.
	And so the whole movie has been hijacked into a propaganda campaign.
	To essentially saying, hey, the Affordable Care Act ain't great, but we cannot have the Republicans win and Romney win.
	It blew my mind that that was happening.
	And then I see Ebert tweeting about how great the movie is and all these douchebags.
	Like, oh, this is a great movie.
	It's not a great movie!
	I would love to speak to the maker of the movie.
	I believe they even edited the movie, because there is some good stuff in it.
	The true outcome is not in there.
	Just so you know these douchebags and who we're talking about, I did some research on Eleanor Holmes Norton, and I tried to find the original audio.
	I couldn't.
	I found an NPR report, the beginning of an NPR report, from March 30th this year.
	Just listen to what a douchebag this is.
	From WBEZ Chicago, it's This American Life, distributed by Public Radio International, and today we have a big, big story of money and politics that begins with a humble voicemail.
	This is Eleanor Norton, Congressman Eleanor Holmes Norton.
	I noticed that you have given to other colleagues on the Transportation and Infrastructure Committee.
	I am a senior member, a 20-year veteran, This is a voicemail that Eleanor Holmes Norton, the Democratic congressman from Washington, D.C., left for a lobbyist in the fall of 2010.
	We don't know who the lobbyist is, but from the voicemail we can infer that he represents a contractor who's working on the new Homeland Security complex being built in Washington, D.C., a complex that Eleanor Holmes Norton at the time had a lot of power over.
	And I'm handling the largest economic development project in the United States now, the homeland security compound of three buildings being built on the old St.
	Elizabeth's Hospital site.
	After pointing out that she is in charge of the project that he cares about, she gets to the point.
	I was, frankly, surprised to see that we don't have a record, as far as I can tell, of your having given to me, despite my long and deep work, essentially, in your sector.
	I'm simply candidly calling to ask for a contribution.
	I'm asking you to give the citizens to Eleanor Holmes Norton, P.O. Block 706.
	Yeah, so she's calling the lobbyists.
	She's like, you know, I'm really important.
	I'm in charge of all this crap.
	And I just, it's amazing.
	I've been looking at the list.
	I don't understand.
	Where's your name?
	What?
	That's what she said.
	Where's your name?
	I don't see it.
	Maybe you're using a different name.
	Where's my money?
	I haven't seen you send me money.
	That's literally what she says.
	So this douchebag is up there misusing this movie, and I'm sure this is happening everywhere, with DoctorsForAmerica.org, and what's this other one they got?
	PatientsOverPolitics.org.
	No, no, I'm not surprised if that's your question.
	You're stunned by this corruption.
	What I'm stunned by is that it took me until that evening, and we had dinner with Wendell, and we were reviewing, and I'm like, this went nowhere.
	He says, yeah, that was kind of weird.
	I could see him piecing it together, too.
	We were just kind of like, it took us a while to figure it out, and I'm like, who flew you in, Wendell?
	He said, what documentary can just fly people in to D.C. and put them up for a couple days?
	Who flew him in?
	What?
	Who flew him in?
	Oh, the...
	What's it called?
	The Center for American Progress.
	I didn't know this until after I'd done all the research and I asked.
	I'm like, oh, okay.
	Well, duh.
	Wow.
	And this whole movie, which I think was probably really a good documentary, although now that I can't find this Sergeant Yates anywhere, and when you see...
	I mean, how would the military ever allow a documentary crew to get on a C-130 that's flying wounded guys and guys with PTSD from Afghanistan to Germany?
	That's the first stop.
	And allow them free, unfettered access to these kids which are just completely messed up.
	I question that now.
	And now that this guy just seems to, you know, it's a great story, but how come we're not interviewing him?
	How come he's not out in the forefront talking about it?
	And I see the interview with the guy who made the documentary.
	What's his name?
	Matthew Heinemann.
	He looks remorseful.
	And just all these...
	Oh, yeah.
	Oh, yeah.
	He just looks remorseful.
	Because his movie got hijacked.
	Co-opted.
	No, not co-opted.
	This is a hijack.
	So anyway, go see the movie and tell me if there's flyers or anything else that's being handed out when you see it.
	That's what I'd like to know.
	Because it has big distribution.
	This is not an independent little documentary.
	This is distributed by Weinstein.
	Goebbels is smiling.
	Sounds good.
	Yeah.
	Anyway, so that was my...
	Kudos to them!
	Yeah!
	In the morning!
	Good job!
	Good job, Eleanor Holmes Norton, you douchebag!
	Douchebag!
	I like her.
	It is funny.
	It's totally illegal.
	I think they should rouse her.
	They should give her...
	She's horrible, that woman.
	I've heard her talk way too often on C-SPAN. It's just like, oh, she's just a horrible person.
	Yeah, she also...
	Well, you know what?
	So I think Breitbart...
	Remember him, the guy who got killed?
	Or mysteriously died, I'm sorry, after drinking a glass of wine?
	So he was the one that got this voicemail.
	And so I was just reading through some of the historical stuff, because this only happened in March, and all the news reports are like, he's going after a black woman!
	It's like, oh, really?
	Really?
	He's going after a black woman.
	And she does have quite, you know, she has a history in the civil rights movement and everything, so she's got all that, but, you know, let's just overlook the fact that she hadn't filed taxes for seven years and then had to pay an $80 fine and penalty when she got nailed for it, and then this thing.
	I just, we should try that, John.
	We should be like...
	You know, hi.
	Yeah, we're going to be in leg irons.
	Hi, this is Adam and John.
	Cleaning some crap by the side of the road.
	No, no, no, no.
	For the newsletter.
	This is the newsletter.
	Hi, this is the No Agenda Show.
	You know, we are just looking at our list, and we just, you know, it's funny.
	Your name's not on it.
	Maybe you just used a different PayPal name or something.
	We can't seem to find...
	You should just...
	Have you sent us any...
	We can actually legally do that, but when you're a member of Congress, you can't do that.
	Well, apparently she did it.
	You can't extort a lobbyist like that.
	Apparently, everyone does this, and that's why it's not reported on.
	And she did it from a campaign cell phone, so it's okay.
	Oh, that's not right.
	Duh!
	But did you hear about this story?
	No.
	Oh.
	No.
	And I'm surprised.
	So that's the only part of the NPR story.
	Then they kind of gloss over it and they go into all this, you know, people saying, oh yeah, you know, Congress is blah, blah, blah, blah.
	Instead of this woman being, you know, thrown, yeah, thrown in irons, essentially.
	And I knew it!
	I could feel it!
	My bullshit-o-meter was tingling, my spidey sense was just going off.
	I'm like, there's something in this room that's wrong, Parker.
	Huh.
	Yeah.
	So...
	So I've got a couple of clips that are worth listening to that are reflective of the distraction of the week.
	Which is the...
	Over-analysis of Obama not giving a crap about the debates and tanking.
	Yeah.
	One is, I thought, the most creative excuse for Obama.
	Oh, Al Gore.
	Did you hear that one?
	Let's play it, because I have something to say.
	I had that clip, too.
	I have something to say about it.
	Obama arrived in Denver at 2 p.m.
	today, just a few hours before the debate started.
	Romney did his debate prep in Denver.
	When you go to 5,000 feet, and you only have a few hours to adjust, I don't know, maybe...
	Can I say the first one?
	To me, just one real quick thing here.
	I just came from L.A. the same day.
	You know what I did?
	I drank two cups of coffee before coming out here.
	It's really different.
	The first time I ever did stand-up in Denver, I had the same exact effect.
	I flew in that day, and when your lungs aren't acclimated to that kind of air, yeah, it makes you drawn, it makes you off.
	The president had an off night.
	Can I say something about this?
	Yeah, I have something to say about it too, but go on.
	Well, first of all, when you are flying in your Air Force One, the actual cabin pressure is set at about 8,000 feet.
	So during your flight, and did he fly from Washington?
	I don't know if he flew from the East.
	He is.
	Who knows?
	He's wasting the taxpayers' money is all I know.
	So this is not like all of a sudden he's up there at the mile-high city.
	It's like, we did a show from Denver.
	Did I suck any more than usual?
	No!
	You know, I've been to Denver a lot, and I've been there in the spur of the moment.
	I've never had any of these effects.
	I played tennis once on the same day I arrived with somebody, and I didn't even notice that it was...
	I didn't even think about it, and it didn't bother me.
	Now, if you're at 11,000 or 12,000 feet, which I've been at, like Telluride, I think is 11,000 or 12,000 feet, you get a little winded.
	But even there, you don't get pooped.
	I mean, I've played croquet at 5,000 feet and had no issues at all.
	Well, maybe he's still smoking.
	Ha!
	Ah!
	Right?
	That may be it.
	Yeah.
	Maybe that's what was...
	That actually may be it, but they won't bring that up.
	No, but maybe that's what that thing...
	Did you see the video?
	One of our producers ISO'd the video of the battery pack?
	No, I did not see it.
	I wasn't sent a copy.
	Maybe I was.
	No, I tweeted it.
	I tweeted a screen capture of it.
	Maybe it was just a pack of smokes.
	Yeah, you said that was the joke you used last time.
	I know, but it's true now.
	It's the altitude of Washington, D.C., it's got your dinghy.
	Maybe it's just true.
	Okay.
	All right.
	So, anyway, I just thought that that was the lamest possible thing to dream about.
	Al Gore, of course, no one saw it, but a few people, because he did that on court.
	I saw it, and that Chunk guy, what a sellout.
	Oh, Chunk?
	Oh, yeah.
	Sellout.
	So, just something off the wall.
	Here's the clip.
	What I think should be the clip of the day.
	Yeah.
	Which is Al Sharpton won.
	With all the arrests behind it?
	Okay.
	As we've been saying last night, Romney did a real job on the truth.
	But then he got really low.
	He went after Big Bird.
	That is the Al Sharpton show in a nutshell.
	Yeah.
	I'll give it to you.
	Clip of the day.
	Wow, I really wasn't expecting it.
	No, you deserve it.
	I bet you you got a follow-up for it.
	Anyway, I just have the other Al Sharpton clip.
	Just for people who want to hear something, this is what passes for a show on MSNBC. If you can understand the word he says, the clip is just simple.
	It's Al Sharpton is an idiot.
	Finally tonight, a criminal investigation is underway in Florida.
	The Florida Department of Law Enforcement is probing a Republican voter registration firm that was hired by the Republican National Committee.
	We reported about Strategic Allied Consulting.
	The firm's accused of registering dead people as GOP voters, of submitting registrations with fake addresses, and of having similar-looking signatures on voter forms.
	The firm's run by Nathan Spruill.
	In the past, he's been investigated for tricking Democrats into registering as Republicans, secretly re-registering Democrats as Republicans, and shredding Democratic registration forms.
	He's never been charged or convicted.
	But knowing this, the RNC still hired him to run voter registration.
	So this is a typical case of when a writer and a host are separated by a concrete wall.
	And this happens on television.
	When someone who is writing is not writing for the person who is reading.
	And Sharpton, he has no idea what he is saying.
	He literally has no idea.
	There's no real conflict!
	Except for that.
	They got you right.
	Ugh!
	So he goes on and he says, he's accused of this and accused of that.
	He's never been found guilty of anything, but despite that, the Republicans keep him on.
	What?
	What does that mean?
	The guy is innocent of wrongdoing, apparently, because I guess he's never been found guilty.
	But despite the fact that he's innocent, they keep him on?
	Is that what he's saying?
	That's what he's saying.
	It's awesome, isn't it?
	Guy is an idiot, and the fact that MSNBC keeps him on the show is astonishing.
	What pictures does he have?
	You got to talk about that!
	Who knows?
	Unbelievable.
	Unbelievable.
	Yeah.
	Well, the more I think about it, I mean, the whole Big Bird, the whole...
	By the way, how come no one is talking with this comment about the funding for PBS? Does anyone ever watch PBS? Does anyone notice that they have, I don't know, commercials every 15 minutes?
	They don't need Congress's funding.
	It's a commercial outfit.
	Right, it's a commercial outfit, and even so, they'll tell you themselves that the Corporation for Public Broadcasting, I think the government provides less than 10% of their funding.
	It's a small number.
	So to pull that out and let more of Arthur Davis vining and Bill Melinda Gates and all these other people pony up more, what's wrong with that?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Let the Burlington Northern people give more money so they don't talk about trains.
	So, some interesting things happening in Europe.
	Angola...
	Wait, wait, wait.
	Before you go there, I do have to do one more clip about this.
	Because I want you to tell me if you catch the gaffe.
	It's kind of a gaffe.
	About, again, this is another rant about Obama's screwing up.
	This is from Carvel.
	James Carvel is a mush mouth.
	You can't understand a word he says, but see if you can catch this a little bit in here.
	He's from Louisiana.
	You know, I had one overwhelming impression.
	I did everything I could not to reach it, but I had to reach it.
	And it looked like Romney wanted to be there and President Obama didn't want to be there.
	He seemed like he was happy to be there debating.
	President Obama gave me the impression that just the whole thing was kind of a lot of trouble.
	I don't know.
	You cannot, you know, go ahead.
	Now, I do not know.
	What we don't know is, again, we've got to do like we said.
	We've got to think of what the judges think.
	The judges?
	Yeah!
	What is this, American Idol?
	Alright, I'm sorry.
	I take it back.
	This is the clip of the day.
	Oh, man.
	Hold on.
	Let me get the jingle for it.
	I just rescinded.
	Oh, my God.
	We've got to see what the judges think.
	Judges, what do you think?
	We have Britney Spears and, well, I didn't like it when you did my song.
	Oh, my goodness.
	That's funny.
	Wow.
	Oh, man.
	What a douche.
	The judges.
	You know his wife sits on his head.
	What's her name?
	Yeah, Marilee Matlin.
	She's funny because their politics are just the opposite.
	Well, that's their shtick.
	Yeah, who knows what they're...
	They're just money makers.
	Yeah, yeah.
	And by the way, they do a fine job at that.
	You know, you don't see us sitting there raking in the dough, talking about judges.
	Judges.
	Let me just hit Europe for a second here.
	Yes.
	A couple things.
	So we had, first of all, Athens is crazy what's going on in Greece.
	We have Angela Merkel.
	She's visiting.
	She will be visiting.
	They're going to bring out 7,000 additional police agents for her visit.
	Yeah.
	I don't even know why she...
	7,000?
	Yes.
	I don't know why she's going.
	She must be insane to want to go there.
	She's nuts.
	That's crazy.
	They literally put pictures of her in a Nazi uniform in the newspaper.
	Now, I can't believe that she's going there.
	But yeah, she's going.
	She's going to go say hi.
	Go check it out.
	See how it's going on down there in the lower portion of her empire.
	But there's this thing called...
	uh...
	lagarde's list now this is very poorly reported if at all here in uh...
	uh...
	just in general and so here's what i understand that christine lagarde when she was still finance minister to france received a list of about two thousand politicians mainly greek but also german politicians Who had received kickbacks and had put an aggregate of 1.5 billion euros into Swiss accounts in an HSBC
	branch in Geneva.
	To be exact, 1,991 public and political figures were on this list.
	And she had given this list to the Prime Minister of Greece.
	And so everyone's freaking out because, you know, where's the list?
	And apparently the list was, you know, it was on a CD and then it was stolen.
	And so the whole country is freaking out, but not just Greece, but in Germany as well.
	So it's kind of like some big blackmail scandal about Lagarde's list.
	And this is supposed to have names from political media circles, and everyone's just kind of waiting for something to start leaking out.
	There's some huge scandal going on.
	And it's very hard to understand exactly what is happening.
	But there's Lagarde's list, and I'm waiting to see what names will be on this, because it doesn't just have to be Greek politicians.
	So, amongst all this, Angela is going to visit with her 7,000 troops, her Sturmbannführer troops, and we shall see how this correlates.
	This is crazy.
	I'm thinking this is not unrelated.
	I'm thinking she's going down to get herself a copy of the list, or something like that.
	7,000!
	We thought Obama's trips were expensive.
	No, no, no.
	She's out of control.
	Meanwhile, Spain very upset.
	Very, very upset with Mitt Romney.
	You'll recall that he said Spain spends 42% of their total economy on government.
	We're now spending 42% of our economy on government.
	I don't want to go down the path of Spain!
	Yeah.
	So he's not welcome in Marbella anymore.
	Yeah, that's bad.
	But the best one, and I think you received this email, and then I saw the video, and of course you can watch the video, there's no usable audio for the show, but it looks, and we got this from our producer Nelson Ferreira, it looks like Portugal has given up.
	They are a country in distress.
	In fact, I think Maybe I do have the report.
	This might actually be pretty funny.
	Let me see.
	Euroland.
	Don't I have a Euroland clip somewhere?
	Hmm.
	I guess I don't.
	So they had the, October 5th was their National Republic Day, which is a holiday, and there were a couple things different this year.
	First of all, they announced that the holiday will be abolished next year.
	Remember, this is their national holiday.
	So on the holiday, they said, we're not going to do it next year.
	The Prime Minister was not at the ceremony.
	The ceremony was closed to the public for the first time ever.
	And, and here's the best part, and I wish I had that, I thought I had a video of that.
	They hoisted the flag upside down, which of course is the international signal for distress.
	Oh right, that's right, when you put the flag upside down.
	Yeah, that means you're in distress.
	And so they hoisted the flag upside down.
	And it's like, this is not a mistake, people.
	This is a real signal.
	We have to go into Portugal and help our brothers and sisters.
	They're in trouble.
	Well, we got a report, which I'm going to put most of it in the next newsletter, from Garcia in Spain.
	Okay, good.
	And he had a couple of corrections he wanted to make sure he knew about.
	First of all, he explains the demonstrations and how they relate to the public.
	But he did make one thing.
	He started with this one thing.
	He says, the BBC report that we ran on the railway workers on strike...
	Yeah?
	Let me just read the sentence here.
	This will be in the newsletter.
	The protests against the privatization of the railways are something barely talked about here.
	Heard it first on the clip you played.
	And he lives in Spain.
	In Madrid.
	So wait a minute, so what's the angle then?
	So the BBC's full of crap, it was a distraction, it was a distraction story to keep us from getting to the point.
	Well, could it be a distraction?
	Or is it related to their own train problems?
	Because they've had all kinds of shit with their trains.
	That could be, yeah, it can't be as bad as it is here.
	Yeah, that's what I'm thinking it was.
	That makes sense.
	Yeah, and he goes on with some other very interesting deconstructions, which I'll put in next week's newsletter.
	Oh, great.
	That'll be very interesting.
	It's a lot of good stuff.
	Well, I have my own little deconstruction.
	Not hard to do, but of course...
	By the way, I'll sign him off, though.
	What's going on around here?
	Mainly chaos and protests.
	Yeah, there you go.
	And...
	No service for you!
	In Spain.
	I understand that in Spain and in Portugal, if you go there on vacation, that you don't want to show up with a credit card in the restaurant.
	They want cash.
	Don't send your blankets or your money or your water.
	We just want cash.
	Exactly.
	We just need cash.
	I know a lot of people want to send blankets or water.
	Just send your cash.
	So we were wondering, of course, what is going on with these seats on American Airlines?
	We obviously know that there's a union dispute going on, but no, no, no, American Airlines has come up with the answer.
	I'm sure you were sent many copies of this, John, one of the most emailed stories of the week.
	It is because of soda and other gunk that has fallen on the floor and has loosened the actual bolting of the chair.
	It's eating through the fuselage!
	So, I think Coca-Cola should now be on the banned list of terrorist substances because, you know, you can bring a whole plane down and it starts coming apart.
	You may be missing the real point of that story.
	Okay.
	Another excuse not to serve anything by the cheap bastards that run American Airlines.
	No, no.
	Well, that was going to be my follow-up.
	Oh, I beat you to it.
	I stepped on it.
	That's okay.
	That's all right.
	Welcome to my world.
	Yeah, but that's exactly it.
	I'm sorry.
	We can't serve you any fizzy drinks anymore.
	Would you like a cup of water?
	Why does anybody fly on those?
	Actually, them and...
	What?
	It's really...
	It's just terrible.
	Well, flying is just bogative.
	Who the hell wants to fly anymore?
	So I have a theory.
	All right.
	So I came out of Seattle to come back here, and...
	Tell me, how was your experience?
	Did you opt out?
	Well, I generally opt out.
	Uh-oh.
	But I found that the...
	I think it's called the northern terminal.
	The first terminal, if you look at the whole operation from a distance, on the very, very far right end in the corner, there is a...
	A TSA thing, and you can get to every gate by going through that one.
	There's some ones you can't get to all the gates from.
	But this one you can't because it links you to the underground subway that goes around the airport that takes you to all the different gates.
	And it's way over, and it was dead empty.
	Because it's so far away from everything else that it's ridiculous.
	So the furthest left...
	Entrance does not have a scanner.
	It just has a magnetometer.
	Now, I'm beginning to wonder, because Oakland has a...
	If you go into the Southwest Terminal 2, the middle of all the X-ray machines, the middle aisle, as it were, if you wanted to call it that, none of the X-ray machines just has a magnetometer.
	Right.
	So I'm wondering if there's one spot in every airport for the insiders.
	Oh.
	That are going to do nothing but create problems anyway.
	It's like a wink, wink, nudge, nudge.
	Look, we know you're going to come through this airport.
	We know you're going to ask for an opt-out.
	We know that you're going to do that because you're a troublemaker.
	And we're just going to take you up our time.
	We've got to find some guy to feel you up, and we don't like doing that.
	So if you pay some attention, idiot, you'll find there's one row you can go down.
	It doesn't have the x-ray machine, and you can just go through the magnetometer, and that's that.
	Right.
	Well, this is not the case at Austin, and this is not the case...
	You check every single entrance?
	There's only two.
	There's only two.
	You sure?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, I'm very sure.
	Maybe it's only a California thing.
	I don't know.
	Not in Los Angeles.
	Not in Los Angeles.
	There's no way you checked all the entrances to LAX. There's too many of them.
	The ones that I fly on.
	I mean, so I have to fly a different airline.
	Once you're inside the...
	Inside the bubble, you can go into any one of those things generally.
	I'll bet you there's one at LAX somewhere.
	Okay.
	All right.
	I'm with you.
	I'm with you.
	I'm just guessing.
	I could be wrong.
	Maybe other people that listen to the show, if they have their airport with one entrance that has no x-ray machine, send us a note and then we'll make a little database for our no agenda listeners and then they'll know what, you know, they don't have to deal with it.
	Although, you know, it's always nice to opt out.
	Well, I think the idea of having a no-agenda database of these types of things is great anyway.
	And I'm going to think about it.
	Maybe it's just a wiki.
	Here we go.
	For the first time in my life, I'll agree with you.
	This is probably a good thing for a wiki.
	So it's called the Premier Service, no, what do we call it?
	Premier Service and Premier Valet Service database.
	So you tell every single airport where you can go through the Premier line with your coach class ticket and then where you don't have to opt out or where they have friendly TSA agents who fill you up and carry your stuff nicely.
	Yeah, we should set that up.
	What we should do is look at our list of URLs that we have a ton of and find one that would be appropriate and get a hold of the guy who has it and have it transferred to us, put a wiki on it, and just let it go.
	Just cut it loose.
	Hey, that's great.
	Alright, guess what?
	I'm not going to do it.
	Are you?
	Yeah, I'm going to put the Seattle and Oakland information in there.
	Oh no, but I mean follow through on setting it up.
	Oh, well, there's that.
	There's that.
	So basically, you just told me to go through the list, find a URL, contact the person, and set up the wiki.
	Is that what I just understood?
	I want to make sure.
	Yeah, I was hoping you'd pick up the cudgel.
	And then you'll enter Oakland and Seattle.
	Great.
	Now we got a deal.
	I'm going to show my school by donating to No Agenda.
	Imagine all the people who could do that.
	Oh yeah, that'd be fab.
	Yeah, on No Agenda.
	Setting up a wiki.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, wiki.
	Okay, let's thank a few people for helping us out on this show, 450.
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	Hello, gents.
	$55.55 for the fifth anniversary show and $50 for my usual monthly amount for the great shows.
	Thank you very much.
	And here we go.
	Oh, no.
	$69, dude!
	Wow, wow, wow.
	But it's low.
	Yeah, we had, by the way, I did a count last show was 12, which was below our 14 and 22, and this is getting real slow here.
	On the way out.
	On the way out, yeah.
	For those of you who...
	I think this will be the last time we ever hear of it.
	Yeah, for those of you who...
	Podcast for Peace in Alamo, California, 6969.
	Why?
	Because.
	For those of you who listen to the show, you know, listen to older episodes, by the time you're hearing this, it's already over.
	Gregory Davis in Lotton, Oklahoma, 6969.
	It's the Australian lost in Oklahoma.
	I was happy to hear my 6969 and Hey Shittison's clips get used on your show.
	Thank you.
	So he's the one who did the 6969.
	I think he might have done the other one.
	Oh, okay.
	Thank you so much.
	Well, he says he heard it.
	Well, I know which one it is.
	It's this one.
	6969.
	That's his jingle, I think.
	By the way, when Netanyahu held up that bogative and meaningless diagram with the United Nations, the first thing that popped into my head was the scene where some days you can't get rid of a bomb from the 1960s Batman movie.
	Yeah, I remember that.
	Wow.
	Anyway, I appreciate the work you guys do.
	Keep kicking ass, and I hope you can use the jingle clip by email to play when some good old chat room is misbehaving.
	Yeah.
	I would appreciate some karma.
	Yeah.
	I'm not going to play his chatroom misbehaving jingle, but I will give you the karma.
	Thank you so much.
	You've got karma.
	Because they're behaving.
	And finally, Anonymous Shitizen from Waterloo, Ontario, Canada.
	And it reminded me to tell them, I got the Canadian HD TV coming into the house up there in North.
	And so we watched The National and all the good stuff you get from Canada.
	The National, by the way, is the premier network news show with this guy Mansbridge.
	Yeah, it's a great show.
	It's a great show.
	I don't see it in the U.S. anywhere.
	I don't know why.
	I get on the interwebs.
	We got to watch the craze.
	There's a ton of government commercials going on in Canada right now, including the one, and it always says, brought to you by the government of Canada.
	And it's all just self-promotional stuff.
	And my favorite one was, starts like this, it goes, we spell Canada with a can, not with a can't.
	Oh, wow.
	Hold on.
	Oh, wow.
	They're paying the big bucks for that one.
	They need the Canadian Curry Dvorak Consulting Group to go help them out up there.
	That's what happened.
	That's what they need.
	You can, not a can't.
	Anonymous Citizen in Waterloo, Ontario, 6969.
	Please call me Anonymous Citizen from Canada.
	Done.
	Great advice.
	Observation that Obama's weak debate performance was a fundraising ploy.
	Keep up the addictive and insightful analysis.
	Give him a hey-shitizen karma.
	By the way, $181 million.
	Apparently what he raised on that.
	Wow.
	Yeah, yeah.
	So we give that one to you, John.
	You are absolutely right.
	Hey-shitizen.
	You've got karma.
	And that wraps it up!
	69!
	69, dudes!
	Last time you'll hear that.
	Well, probably.
	Unless some troublemakers get involved.
	Royce Kokami in Aie, Hawaii, 6464.
	In the morning, fellas, I appreciate who they had.
	Douchebag, yay for Cody being a lying and backstabbing asshole.
	Do we have a clip?
	I don't have a yay for Cody, but I can do all the rest.
	What was it?
	Douchebag to the head?
	Okay.
	Oh, that one.
	That's what I got.
	Yay, right.
	Yay.
	That's a good one.
	I like that one.
	Yeah, that's good.
	Oh, good old Dame Tanya came in from New York.
	Hey, Dame Tanya.
	Tanya Wayman.
	New York, New York, New York.
	5555 double shot donation for my birthday on October 5th.
	Missed donating for the Thursday show.
	Dough.
	On a big happy 5th anniversary of the best podcast in the universe.
	It's October 6th is her birthday.
	6th.
	Yeah.
	P. Bo in somewhere, Parts Unknown, 5555.
	Kurt Kubal in Mound, Minnesota, 5555.
	Hi guys, enjoyed the deconstructions.
	I'd like to wish my wife a happy new year of her personal chronological earth calendar on 10-7, or as some people call it, a birthday.
	Yeah.
	She needs to be on the list.
	Is she not on the list?
	I don't think so.
	Hold on a second.
	Let me just check.
	What's her name?
	Kurt Kubal's wife.
	Yeah, yeah.
	She's on the list.
	She's on the list.
	On the list.
	Didn't put the loco on here.
	You're on the list.
	Christian Collins, San Carlos, California, 5555.
	Last time I donated, I asked for a job, Carmen.
	Now I am pleased to say I got the job.
	So I'm donating because of the good karma that you guys gave me.
	I laughed super hard when Dvorak told the chat room to screw themselves.
	Too funny.
	Anyway, Adam, if you have jobs, jobs, jobs, I'll take that and give you guys the karma.
	Take care.
	All right.
	Yes, I do.
	But it's not in my system.
	Oh, I was also looking at tsastatus.net.
	What the hell was it called?
	Oh, crap.
	Jobs, Jobs, Jobs?
	No, no, no, that's the problem.
	I don't think it's called Jobs, Jobs, Pelosi.
	Oh, I feel like such a douchebag.
	Yeah, you found it for the last show.
	I know, but now I can't.
	Yeah, I know what it is.
	It's this one.
	Here we go.
	So she wants that with the karma?
	Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
	Let's vote for jobs!
	Yay!
	You've got karma.
	It's called Let's Vote for Jobs.
	Oh, Let's Vote for Jobs.
	That's why I can't find it.
	Okay.
	Sir James Howard in Indianapolis, 5555.
	Holy crap, the segment you just did that bullied news anchor has won you guys a disciple for life.
	Or on that, you know, the one we did.
	It was posted by a guy from Germany and in the video description he writes, No one is entitled to call her any names regarding her weight.
	Entitled means have the right.
	So obviously we are entitled to call our names.
	Please, producers from Germany, slap some sense into your countrymen.
	Give him a Hey Shitizen Best Podcast in the Universe.
	Oh, that's a very nice combination.
	Hey Shitizen.
	The best podcast in the universe.
	A little German twist to it.
	Tim Connor in Edmonton, Alberta, Senator Big Doe.
	Stand up for free speech, he says.
	And these are all the anniversary donations, the 5555s.
	Yes, there's quite a few.
	We're coming on it, and then this is going to be over.
	Sir Glenn Riccio in Charlottesville, Virginia, 5555, no comment.
	John in Pennsylvania, 5555.
	John and Adam, in the morning, congratulations on five great years.
	My wife and I are celebrating our 10-year anniversary on the 5th of October, so I thought this would be a fitting donation.
	Please wish my wife a happy anniversary for me as well.
	Oh, heck.
	And a MILF shout-out.
	We would like some travel karma for our trip to Boston in just over a week.
	Our first real trip without the children.
	Ooh!
	MILF! That's one mother.
	I like those.
	You've got karma.
	Well, you know what's going to happen on that trip.
	New children.
	Douglas Kuhlman in Shevlin, Minnesota.
	Minnesota.
	5555.
	Being donating monthly from the start, I would like to use this donation to sincerely thank you guys for your hard work, fun, and congrats on your anniversary.
	It's not an insignificant milestone.
	Who knew the show would get this good in the beginning?
	You're the best podcast in the universe.
	Minute Man Woody in the great Northwoods near Alida, Minnesota.
	It's pretty interesting how you went from Fargo to Brooklyn.
	I can't maintain some of these accents.
	They drift.
	It's called drifting.
	Accent drift.
	Yeah, we call it...
	It's incompetence.
	Electric notary in Covina, California, 5555.
	Finally, the first 42 minutes of show, 444 broke through to my wife.
	Uh-oh.
	Finally.
	Hello, wife.
	She's finally a believer in the greatest podcast in the universe.
	Check out the Koch brothers exposed on current TV networks.
	Great.
	In the morning knowledge, more validation on how it works.
	Check out the Koch brothers.
	Let's have the Koch brothers donate some dough.
	Yeah, that's what we need.
	That's what we need.
	Get those guys to send us some cash.
	Yeah, they could finance the show.
	Yes.
	Anonymous in Staten Island, New York, 5510.
	I would like to remain anonymous.
	You guys continue to be the highlight of Leo's twit.
	After my last donation, I added a weekly 1212 subscription to Trickle Charge My Karma, which has been working.
	Uh-huh.
	I decided to change this donation to get a special karma recharged because of a very important meeting on Monday.
	All right.
	Please send me some Huntsman Karma.
	Huntsman Karma.
	Top.
	Must be doing something for the Chiners.
	You've got karma.
	Good job.
	And that's double nickels on the dime, by the way.
	Trevor Stasek in Phoenixville, Pennsylvania.
	50 bucks like a John Dvorak lost on mumble John Huntsman doctor who de-douching.
	I don't know what that is, but we'll try this.
	You've been de-douched.
	You've got karma.
	Bonus karma.
	Bernie Atima in Hinton, Iowa.
	50 bucks, no comment.
	Deborah Ayers in Broomfield, Colorado.
	She needs a de-douching we suck.
	You mean she wants the We Suck jingle?
	She wants a D-douche and a We Suck, yeah.
	Oh, okay.
	Alright, here we go.
	You've been D-douched.
	We suck!
	I'm not sure why she wants that, but okay.
	Simon Alicia in Elsternwick, Victoria.
	By the way, I was noticing a lot of the Canadians say Canada.
	They pronounce it Canada.
	And they even write it Canada.
	And it's mostly Quebecers that say Canada.
	As a half-night still loving the show, I get my news from you weeks before it's in the lamestream media.
	Listeners need to remember.
	That's true.
	We're way ahead of the curve on this.
	If you agree with everything you hear on a show, your mind is not being challenged.
	I also want to call out Dan Zoltak as a boner.
	Well, give him a douchebag.
	Douchebag!
	Who needs to step up and donate after listening for a long time.
	Please give me some all-around goodness karma for my family with a WT7 stinger.
	Jinger.
	Okay.
	Good luck.
	You've got karma.
	WTC7 won't go away.
	Good luck.
	Oh, ye of little faith, Dvorak.
	Wow.
	I'm surprised you could dig it up at that spur of the moment.
	That's been in the archives.
	Mm-hmm.
	Well, it's appropriately labeled WTC7, so it was kind of easy to find.
	Oh, that's ridiculous.
	Yeah.
	Instead of, let's vote for jobs.
	Yeah.
	Black Knight, George Vanderhorst, and Cat's Hovel.
	Cat's Hovel.
	The Bouncing Hill.
	Thank you.
	I thought I mean a hole where cats live.
	Yeah, that's what it is.
	Sure.
	50 bucks.
	No comment.
	Mack Harbor, LLC. Rob in Sheboygan.
	Sheboygan, Minnesota.
	$50.
	Hey, Rob here.
	Long time boner.
	First time donor.
	Putting in 50 bucks for a month for a night layaway program.
	Also, the motel I run, the Monarch Motel in Sheboygan, Michigan.
	Has banned and continues to run its no-agenda discounts to boners, donors, and producers alike.
	All you need to do is say you're a listener of the best podcasts in the universe, and you'll get a discount.
	He also says we can get a free room.
	He also wants people to listen to his podcast, The Rob and Dan Show, on robindan.tv.
	It's a video game news and opinion show where we don't pull any punches good for you.
	I want to look at the Monarch...
	Motel.com.
	Let me take a look at this place.
	I want to also thank our new Knight Guchnicht from Guchnicht.
	Guchnicht.
	Who we actually met.
	Oh.
	And Mimi and I met him in...
	Port Townsend in a cool bar and we handed him his ring that he wanted and he handed over us some salt.
	What a good deal.
	He wants to do meetups in the Seattle area.
	He used to do this as a profession.
	One of his many previous jobs, I guess.
	So, I really like the Monarch Motel, but here's my recommendation.
	I'm going to give a free Curry Dvorak consulting tip.
	Free?
	Free.
	Well, not free.
	There'll be a memo about this.
	I think you should go to the website, John, and click on Photo Gallery.
	Okay, hold on a second.
	What's the Monarch Motel?
	Monarch Motel.
	Like, you know, like Project Monarch from, you know.
	And what's the town?
	Just do MonarchMotel.com.
	Oh, I see it.
	Okay, sorry.
	MonarchMotel.com.
	This is a free tip.
	A free tip from the Curry Dvorak Consulting Group.
	When you're posting pictures of your motel room, which looks nice, and it looks clean, it looks simple.
	I don't see the photo gallery.
	Let me catch up.
	And you see the photo titled Room 2.
	Yeah, I see it.
	When you take these photos, remove the coat hangers.
	It's not a good look in your photo.
	That's nice.
	It looks like a nice room.
	It's a great room, but you've got to go.
	It's just one bedroom.
	It looks like a one-bedroom thing.
	Yeah.
	You've got to take the coat hangers out.
	Yeah, the coat hangers, you've got to go.
	That's really not a good idea.
	I would just close that.
	It looks nice, though.
	It looks nice.
	We can get free income.
	You're in a motel now.
	It's probably not as good as this place.
	No, this place is severely full of chunkage.
	It's quite bad, actually.
	The room rates are 50 bucks a night.
	Really?
	Holy crap, that's a good deal.
	No, we're paying more.
	We're paying 150?
	150 for a motel room?
	It's not a motel.
	It's billed as a hotel.
	Yeah, well, just because they call it a hotel doesn't mean it's a hotel.
	Well, it's...
	Hey, look, man.
	This is...
	We're investing in Miss Mickey's career here.
	Okay.
	All right, well, anyway, that concludes our segment of our...
	And who did the art?
	We always thank Martin J.J. for the art, so I think that's good.
	Yeah, well, no, we're not good because we have to remind you.
	Dvorak.org slash NA. And we have our fifth anniversary on October 23rd.
	You can go to Dvorak.org slash NA. 26th?
	I thought it was 23rd.
	Oh.
	Oh, 26th.
	And, of course, we have 10, 11, 12.
	That'll be this Thursday.
	That equals 33, and John will put something up on the donation page.
	But any kind of help you can give us is always appreciated, and especially people who do the 12, 12, the 33s, the 49s, the 5.
	There's even still some 4s and some 2s.
	It's all highly appreciated.
	Thank you so much for your support.
	It's your birthday, birthday!
	On your agenda!
	Happy birthday, says Dean Tanya Wyman to herself.
	She celebrated yesterday.
	Kurt Cobai congratulates his wife.
	She will be celebrating today.
	Jake in Las Vegas.
	It's a happy birthday to his brother, Matt Milligan.
	His celebration was on the 3rd.
	And Craig Weinberg turns 33 today.
	It's the Magic Nunger, Craig.
	Congratulations to you and all of our birthday boys and girls from your buddies here at the best podcast in the universe.
	It's your birthday, yeah!
	I always feel like Captain Kangaroo when I do that.
	The birthdays.
	You do?
	Did you used to do that?
	I don't know.
	Maybe more like Mr.
	Rogers.
	Just one of these children.
	Because we're like, hey, happy birthday.
	Maybe it was Romper Room.
	I was associating the whole bit with the thing that used to be done on the Today Show by Willard.
	Oh, no.
	Hey, 100 years old and she still reads the newspaper without her glasses.
	Right, that.
	That.
	No, not that.
	And please draw your blade, sir.
	Here it comes.
	All right.
	Very good.
	Thomas Rice and Shane Castile, step forward, gentlemen.
	I am so proud to welcome both of you into the Elusive Club, which means you shall be receiving the ring that goes along with your knighthood as we bring you into the roundtable here.
	And because of your donation in the amount of $1,000 or more in total, we hereby pronounce the knight to the no-gen roundtable, Sir Thomas and Sir Shane.
	Please come on over for your hookers and blowers, your rent boys and chardonnay.
	Your shits and giggles and sake and your hot pants and booze and...
	Geishas.
	Geishas.
	That's what it was.
	Geishas and what?
	Sake.
	Sake and geishas.
	I couldn't remember the name.
	Geishas and sake, not sake and geishas.
	Huge difference.
	I got to write this down.
	The list is getting so long.
	Well, it's getting long.
	I used to be able to do it from memory.
	Yeah, because it was one thing.
	Oh, and we had visitors here, Sir Tom and a dame.
	Actually, St.
	Nicole showed up here at the hotel yesterday.
	They came to see Mickey's show and say hi.
	You know, St.
	Nicole is a nurse.
	That's why she went from a dame to becoming a saint.
	And could you just nudge the No Agenda Ring Department for me?
	Because they've apparently...
	Okay.
	She says she's going to get on it.
	Probably...
	Well, here's the deal.
	She needs a size 7.
	I heard yesterday, and this is no surprise because she was there when he said it, that they're waiting for her ring so they can get married.
	They want to exchange the night rings.
	Oh, okay.
	I'll push Mimi onto that immediately.
	I feel pretty...
	I was, like, really embarrassed about this.
	Yeah, I'm sure you were.
	That's just the way it is.
	These rings do not go out on a routine basis.
	No, I know.
	I know.
	That's why I just said nudge.
	I didn't make a big deal out of it.
	I'll push it if they're going to use the rings for something important.
	Ha!
	You mean, as opposed to hitting people in the mouth?
	Like, that's not important all of a sudden, John C. DeVore?
	I haven't seen that many people hitting the mouth.
	I mean, police!
	Police!
	And just a couple things for the vernacular, for those of you who are new to the program.
	It is hitting people in the mouth, not punching, and it is the best podcast in the universe.
	Not the greatest, because the greatest is not quite the same as the best.
	Best is better than greatest.
	Yeah, they do say greatest a lot.
	And it's just wrong.
	It's just wrong.
	My eye doesn't bother me so much.
	Oh, oh, oh!
	It all bothers you.
	Oh!
	Hi!
	Hi!
	This just in!
	Coffee drinkers might want to think about switching to decaf.
	According to a nationwide study, people who drink more than three cups of caffeinated coffee each day could increase their risk of developing glaucoma.
	Researchers say compounds in coffee might increase pressure on the eye and cause glaucoma, potentially leading to vision loss and blindness.
	Potentially.
	They say caffeine in tea, soda and chocolate does not seem to have that same effect on eyesight.
	Well, then it's not caffeine, is it?
	No.
	And it was a meta-analysis that they did.
	I couldn't get the report because you have to pay to get this great report.
	And it turns out that when they looked at the results, women, this is only amongst women, women who had glaucoma in the family seemed to have an increased risk of getting glaucoma while drinking coffee.
	Like, are you kidding me?
	So this, I guess there's a new Asanka brand or something come out.
	Have you seen anything yet?
	Is there a new decaffeinated coffee that's on the market?
	There's got to be a campaign coming up.
	Yeah, about decaf.
	I just want the producers who listen to the show.
	Why would they even put this stuff on the news?
	It's a commercial, duh!
	That's why.
	It's a commercial, so I'm looking for the commercial.
	It's not as good as this one, though.
	I like this one.
	Academic from SUNY Albany, which is a college, right?
	SUNY? SUNY! State University of New York.
	That's right.
	SUNY. Is proposing a cure for morning sickness.
	Gordon Gallup, psychologist at SUNY Albany, has a theory...
	That pregnant women who are continually exposed to the father's semen are less likely to suffer from morning sickness.
	Gallup, who specializes in human reproductive competition...
	Really?
	Competition?
	And behavior...
	Competition?
	Yeah, he says, human reproductive competition and behavior.
	What?
	Yeah!
	Go, go, go, go, go!
	Do it!
	You can do it!
	You can reproduce!
	Yeah!
	Offers a theory that expectant women become ill and vomit because their bodies are rejecting the semen's genetic material as something foreign and unfamiliar.
	The theory could feasibly quell their queasiness by ingesting the same sperm in order to allow the body to build up a tolerance.
	So this, I think, is a brilliant move by this researcher who should receive a Nobel Prize.
	If I understand this correctly, he is advocating oral sex before you get pregnant even, so you'll be used to it when you get pregnant and you won't have morning sickness.
	I think it's hilarious, but let's face it, come on!
	A round of applause for this researcher.
	I've heard a lot of ways to try and trick women into doing this, but this is the best.
	And it involves all the way, too.
	This is at least as good as the popcorn box in the lap.
	I mean, this is great.
	I mean, this guy is a genius.
	We should erect a statue for this guy.
	If you had a clip of that, that would have been a clip of the day.
	I knew you'd like it.
	I do actually have something that I'm quite pleased about and that I would like to discuss, but I kind of got to ease into it.
	You know, Jim Saville...
	Jim Saville was a very famous disc jockey, and he also hosted Top of the Pops in the United Kingdom.
	And he had another show, which was called Jim Will Fix It.
	And he would go around, and kids would have a problem, and they'd send him a letter.
	And they'd be like, oh, Jim, I need a swing set.
	Or, I got one leg, Jim.
	Need some help.
	And Jim would get on the television, he'd come over, and Jim would come and fix it.
	Oh, hold on a second.
	I got a big problem here.
	I'm in the middle of my Jim will fix it story, and Mickey just texted me that she's outside of the hotel room, and her card doesn't work.
	So you have to get up.
	Yeah, hum for a minute.
	And open the door.
	Yeah, hum for a minute.
	You should tell her to stop wrecking the show!
	So I got this book.
	I think I'll put quotes in the...
	It's okay, because we have a study that shows how you can thank me for that.
	No worries.
	Okay.
	You did that that quick?
	What, are you right next to the door?
	It's not a big hotel.
	It's a motel!
	You could have done this without saying anything.
	No, I had to...
	I'm embarrassing the poor woman.
	Okay.
	So, would you please...
	I was going to say something.
	Let me...
	So, I got this...
	You got the picture of Jim?
	It's off top.
	Never mind.
	Keep going.
	Okay.
	So, you need to Google a picture of Jim Saville.
	Jim who?
	Jim Saville.
	S-A-V-I-L-L-E. He's been in the news all over the place.
	Is it Seville?
	I think it's Saville.
	I think that's how it's pronounced.
	S-A-V-I-L-L-E. I think that's it.
	Jim Saville.
	Maybe I'm wrong on the spell.
	This guy with the cigar?
	That's the guy.
	Jim will fix it.
	Sir James Wilson Vincent Seville.
	Oh yeah.
	No, he was knighted and everything.
	So now, the guy died a couple months ago.
	And now all these stories come out about how he was abusing kids.
	The Jim Will Fix It guy.
	And if you look at the picture, John, I mean, is it, whoa, is that the president?
	The guy with the, he's wearing orange sunglasses, he's got a huge cigar, he's wearing what looks like a wrestling outfit, and he's giving a big thumbs up and he's got a pinky ring.
	Yeah, that's Jim Will Fix It.
	Yes.
	And he's a knight in the OBE. Yes, that's correct.
	So now there's this huge scandal, because it turns out that he was fiddling about with little boys.
	And all these men are now coming forward who are saying, yeah, Uncle Jim took me to the party, and there was all these other famous people, and they'd be fiddling around with me.
	And now one after the other is coming out, and of course this is after the guy's dead, all you have to do is look at the guy, and he has a show called Jim Will Fix It, for Christ's sakes.
	You gotta know, there's something up with this guy.
	I mean, just look at the guy!
	Does he look like, I mean, if you had to draw a picture of a child molester, would that be the guy?
	He's pretty close to it.
	Yeah!
	So now you've got all these people saying, yeah, I know I worked at the BBC. Because, of course, this is the big scandal, is that people were telling superiors at the BBC, hey, man, Jim is like, he's fixing kids, but not in a good way.
	And the BBC did nothing.
	So now, here's an example.
	This came out just yesterday morning.
	I have to say, in the 80s, which is when I started in radio and television, things were very different.
	And I was, I mean, not to name any names, but I was once very unpleasantly griped while I was broadcasting.
	Really?
	Really?
	By a famous individual who shall remain nameless.
	Nameless?
	Why not name him?
	So, you know, it's just a bunch of nuts.
	They're all, like, fiddling about and touching each other, and even John Peel is now implicated in this.
	Of course, they only do this with dead people.
	John Gielgud?
	Sorry?
	Who did you say is also implicated?
	John Peel.
	Oh, okay.
	Famous.
	Very famous.
	John Peel.
	Yeah, famous.
	Very famous.
	Anyway.
	So, you know, and it feels like there's some, and of course, you know, there's still all this stuff.
	We recently talked about the woman who was up there on the, you know, the Isle of Jersey, and they're getting kicked out, and they've got the orphanage there.
	And if you really get into this, and you really read about all these people, you really quickly get the feeling that there's a huge pedo bear ring, and it's filled with elites and famous people and politicians, etc., Now, what has been one of my pet peeves?
	This show actually started around the time, what happened, John?
	I don't know.
	Yeah, you do.
	When I was on the radio station in Holland.
	Oh yeah, they burned the place to the ground.
	I get emails from people saying, oh man, do you have pictures of the fire?
	They didn't actually burn it to the ground.
	But I brought up on the show that the Secretary General of the Ministry of Justice in the Netherlands, Joris Demink, said he's a pedophile.
	And there was an investigation, and they stopped it, and there was nothing to see here, and all kinds of people were being shut up, the media was shut up, and everyone was silenced.
	And I brought it up, and guess what?
	I got fired, and the station lost its license, lost its funding, and the equivalent of being burned to the ground.
	So this guy is now retiring in two weeks.
	He is 64.
	So that's pretty much the equivalent of being dead, I guess, in politics, since he's of no use to anybody anymore, and it starts coming out in mainstream media that he's being accused of pedophilia.
	And there's a couple of very courageous lawyers, and they have taken this all the way to the Helsinki Commission.
	Now, you may not be familiar with the Helsinki Commission, John.
	But it is actually, it has its seat in Washington, D.C. I'll read about the commission.
	The Commission on Security and Cooperation in Europe, known as the Helsinki Commission, is an independent U.S. government agency created in 1976 to monitor and encourage compliance with the Helsinki Final Act and other OSCE commitments.
	So this is obviously a Human Rights Commission, and a couple of senators are on the commission, and they hold hearings.
	They don't really have any power.
	They can't really do anything.
	But here is the opening two minutes from the most recent hearing on October 4th, and I'll give you the guy's name again.
	His name is Demink, although it is here pronounced as Demink.
	That leaves me speechless.
	What is going on here?
	Do the courts in the Netherlands take human trafficking seriously?
	This afternoon we're going to consider how and to what extent allegations of trafficking and abuse should be investigated.
	We'll do so in the context of a particular series of cases in which very, very serious allegations have been raised against the Secretary General at the Ministry of Justice in the Netherlands, Mr.
	Joris Demick.
	Mr.
	Demick has been accused by a witness that will present today of sexually abusing and raping the witness when the witness was being trafficked in a brothel in Amsterdam at the age of 15.
	The investigation into these accusations was suddenly and inexplicably halted, and law enforcement officials involved were allegedly sworn to secrecy.
	Mr.
	Demeck has been accused by two Turkish boys, now adults, of having raped them in Turkey between 1994 and the year 2003.
	At the time, the boys were 11 and 14.
	At least one of them was homeless and trusted the Turkish police officer who brought him to Mr.
	Demek.
	The other was allegedly locked in a hotel room with Mr.
	Demek, who assaulted him sexually.
	The allegations are shocking.
	Mr.
	Domenk has a right to be presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law, and that is a sacred right that I'm sure we all want to protect.
	At the same time, the allegations, when taken in their full context, are credible and deserve to be properly investigated so that a prosecutor can make a responsible decision whether to proceed with the case against Mr.
	Dimeck.
	That investigation has never happened.
	The investigations that have taken place have been a travesty and have done nothing to clear Mr. Dimeck's name.
	Rather, they have raised further questions.
	Yesterday, the Netherlands Minister of Security and Justice, Mr. Arnitz, Op Stelsten, wrote to the Dutch Parliament regarding this case and listing the actions taken by the Justice Department in regards to the allegations against Mr.
	De Meck.
	The letter states, and I quote,"...the nature of Mr.
	De Meck's job warrants a degree of vigilance." I could not agree more.
	The fact that Mr.
	Demeck is the Secretary General of the Ministry of Justice, the very entity responsible to investigate the charges against him, Should mean that the investigation into the allegations was one of the most thorough, transparent, and well-documented investigations ever undertaken by the Netherlands.
	Not only are those making the allegations literally taking on the Dutch justice system in person, in the person of one of its top officials, but the reputation of the Ministry of Justice itself is on the line.
	So you can watch the two and a half hours of testimony.
	Link in the show notes at 450.nashownotes.com.
	But it looks like this scum is now being thrown under the bus.
	Let's just stop for a second.
	A. Do you feel vindicated?
	I feel much better, yes.
	Despite the fact that you ruined that station?
	Do you think this guy's actually going to get, they're going to get anywhere with this?
	I feel, well, so I don't feel vindicated.
	I'm not a vindictive person, but I'm happy that this is coming to the forefront and that it has been published in mainstream newspapers and that people are realizing that, I guess the main thing is that I'm happy about is that I see people saying, oh man, I heard you talk about that.
	Six years ago, before they burnt the station down.
	So maybe the next time someone raises the flag, people will listen.
	Because, of course, it's been five, six years.
	Do you actually expect that to happen?
	To some degree, yes.
	Yeah, well, good luck.
	What else do you want to ask?
	Nothing.
	I just thought it was an interesting, it was almost like a catharsis listening to this.
	You finally got your demon, this creepy guy, whoever he is, Demenik.
	Demenik.
	Demenik.
	Is now under scrutiny.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, good.
	So I was reminded of Jeff Smith.
	Hopefully in some other manner than this guy.
	No, not our Jeff Smith, spelled with a G. Jeff Smith the cook.
	The frugal gourmet who was on PBS all those years and then was rousted as a pedophile.
	And even though he's married and the whole thing, which obviously doesn't mean that much again.
	That means crap.
	What does that have to do with it?
	I'm just saying.
	But anyway, he was rousted as a pedophile.
	While you're doing the report, I looked him up.
	The reason this came to mind is because I found one of his cookbooks at some book fair.
	I didn't buy it because his cooking was always terrible.
	He's called a frugal gourmet.
	Yeah, and it sucked.
	No, it was a frugal gourmet.
	It's funny because he died of heart disease when he was 65.
	Right, right, right.
	So he's a frugal gourmet, I don't know what frugal had to do with it, and he had this theme.
	I always pointed out, I'd turn his cooking show on once in a while, and I'd point it out to the kids.
	I'd say, look!
	Look what he cooked!
	It looks like everything else he cooked, a big brown mess!
	And so, you can ask Buzzkill Jr., you remember me doing this.
	I believe it.
	A big brown mess!
	Everything he cooked looked the same.
	A big brown mess.
	I can just imagine the kids going, yeah, Dad, okay, we got it.
	It was funny the first 50 times.
	It wasn't meant to be funny.
	So he had a bunch of books.
	The Frugal Gourmet.
	The Frugal Gourmet Cooks with Wine.
	The Frugal Gourmet Cooks American.
	The Frugal...
	And he was leveraging...
	It was on PBS, which I thought was interesting.
	And he was leveraging his little logo.
	Another hotbed of pedo-bear activity.
	Apparently.
	Yeah.
	Rife.
	I'm telling you.
	So I got vindicated.
	Because he was making crappy food?
	No, no.
	I'm talking about, you know, a prediction or something I'd said.
	Sarah Geek Girl out of Rattlehead.
	She sent me a note to mention that it was in the Telegraph they wrote about this.
	Wait a minute.
	You mean Sarah, our hot Russian spy?
	Is that Geek Girl?
	That's my Russian spy.
	Okay, well she sent me a note then.
	She's your Geek Girl?
	It says Geek Girl.
	That's her very email.
	It's GeekGirl at...
	But she's supposed to be a Russian spy.
	She probably is, and she's reading the telegraph, and she ran into this, and she says, just wanted to let you know your offbeat prediction came true.
	Oh.
	It's a prediction I made about both this show and the Twit broadcast, and everyone's going, yeah, whatever.
	The Korean, this is a quote, Korean-made Galaxy S3 smartphone hit the headlines recently when a California court ordered its maker, Samsung, to pay Apple a billion dollars for infringement of copyrights.
	Buoyed by all the free publicity, U.S. sales of the Galaxy soared briefly.
	Overtaking the iPhone, industry analysts concluded that by telling the world that the Galaxy was really just like the iPhone, only cheaper, Apple had done Samsung a billion dollar favor.
	Well, that, and I'd have to say, their commercials are really, really good.
	You know the one where all the idiots are standing in line for the iPhone?
	Right.
	That's a great commercial.
	I love it.
	It's got the connector on the bottom!
	Whoa!
	That's crazy.
	Did they just touch phones?
	I do love that commercial.
	It's very funny.
	They're smart.
	A genius.
	The Curry Dvorak Consulting Group couldn't have done a better job.
	No, I don't think so.
	That was done by some pros.
	Here's an ad for you.
	Just to get us in a little happy mood.
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	Especially germs.
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	At Walgreens and Take Care Clinics, we've got all kinds of ways to arm yourself for flu season.
	And they're all right here, at the corner of Happy and Healthy.
	At the corner of Happy and Healthy.
	Isn't that a Creedence Clearwater risk they're doing in the background?
	Yes!
	Down by the corner!
	Yeah, down by the Walgreens corner.
	That's right.
	At the corner of Happy and Healthy.
	Get your shots.
	We'll give them all to you.
	Not a problem.
	Get your shots.
	Get your shots, kiddies.
	Yeah.
	It's good for you.
	So I got a...
	There's an interesting thing that's going to be coming our way.
	It's out of China.
	I guess it's too complicated in China to use credit cards.
	Somebody came up with this new idea, and they're going to use this.
	And I think this could catch on worldwide.
	It's the fingerprint...
	And it's typical, you know, New World Order stuff.
	Oh, I actually have some information on this.
	Let me hear the clip.
	Play the clip.
	Yeah.
	Cool.
	Do you dare go shopping without carrying a wallet?
	Well, now you can by pressing your finger right here.
	The system will recognize your fingerprint and take money from your bank account without you having to do anything else.
	This is a biometric authentication system which identifies users by their fingerprints.
	And the payment setup is called fingerprint payment.
	Chen Xiaofeng, the founder of the company that developed this fingerprint payment system in Shanghai, says it will simplify everyone's life.
	Bank cards that everyone uses nowadays are actually just media that proves that you are the owner of a particular bank account.
	It is a medium of identification.
	We cannot use fingerprints to prove that you are the owner of your bank account.
	One finger is enough.
	Most major banks in Shanghai have begun offering registration for the fingerprint payment service.
	Customers can register the service at bank counters, kiosks, on hotlines or websites.
	After registering their fingerprints, customers just need to press their finger on this device to pay their bills.
	Their fingerprint information will be processed and compared to those existing in the system's database.
	And if it matches, it pays your bill. - Yeah.
	The whole process takes around 30 seconds, about 10 seconds faster than the average credit or debit card transaction.
	I've tried it.
	It is very convenient.
	I like it.
	My white-collar workers like to use fingerprint payment to pay for their coffee here.
	It's very convenient.
	The feedback is good.
	It is very fast and no signature is needed.
	They like it a lot.
	Everybody in China sounds like Doug.
	Yeah, that's obviously quite creepy.
	But no creepier than using your phone or your Apple wallet or your Google wallet.
	It's all a very, very bad idea.
	The one thing I'll say...
	Yeah, but with the fingerprint...
	Yeah, that means that someone can chop off your finger.
	Yeah, you can have your finger cut off, unfortunately.
	But they have it so it has a temperature sensor.
	You have to keep the finger in some warm water or something.
	In your mouth.
	You can just keep it in your mouth.
	I think it's a new use for roofies.
	For roofies?
	Yeah.
	You knock somebody, anybody out with a roofie and when your bill comes, you grab them because they're passed out.
	It looks like your buddy's passed out.
	And you grab their finger and you put it on the thing.
	Boom.
	You're out of there and you just leave the person there.
	I'm telling you, this is going to be a scandalous thing.
	You're going to have people using roofies to not pay their bill.
	I think you're just going to chop someone's finger off, keep it warm in your mouth, and then take it to the...
	Walking around like a cigarette.
	Then you've got to roll it around in your cheek.
	Yeah, that's where you keep it warm.
	I will say, I learned one thing from my friend who told me about the Flowers of War movie in China.
	He says that there is no such thing as credit For the typical Chinese.
	So everything you pay in advance.
	So there's no electric bill that you get.
	He says every apartment has a meter.
	It has a whole bunch of meters.
	It has meters for water, for electricity, for internet, for everything.
	And then you go and you take your bank card and you prepay and then you can see the meter going down as to how much you paid for your electricity.
	Huh.
	Yeah.
	So, I guess that's what they want.
	It's just like, eh, stick my finger on it.
	I want the whole country in debt.
	Yeah, but it's probably all debit card stuff with the finger.
	Yeah, no, it's direct bank cards.
	Yeah.
	But that's kind of genius because that means that the typical Chinese slave doesn't have huge credit card debt.
	Right.
	Which is actually not a good idea if you want to enslave people.
	You want to put them into great debt.
	They're learning.
	But, you know, they'll figure it out.
	They got the whole finger thing working.
	That's a good start.
	And I wonder if you can use any finger.
	Can you use your middle finger, the little finger, the big finger?
	I mean, I think you should use the middle finger.
	Just put that down every time.
	Yeah.
	What did you think?
	Yeah, great idea.
	Alright, well, let's see.
	I got something here.
	Alright, what you got?
	There's a couple things.
	There's a good report.
	A good report.
	This, I think, came out of China, too.
	A drone nightmare report talking about the drones and the Pakistanis are finally deciding to do something about it.
	Yeah, they're protesting.
	They're pissed.
	Yeah, oh, a big protest.
	Yeah, that's BBC. Yeah, that's BBC. The individual who walked up was a lot larger,
	indicating that actually it was probably a child in the middle of the road just playing.
	And so obviously at that point the engagement was totally called off.
	But it was an unsettling experience because I'd come fairly close to engaging that target, which was a child.
	At the forefront of opposition to the drones, Imran Khan, the former cricketing hero who now heads a political party.
	This weekend he hopes to lead a protest all the way to the tribal areas.
	He told us the drones are backfiring.
	Are they decreasing the number of militants?
	Are they winning the war?
	Is there less extremism?
	Everything is getting worse.
	There is more extremism in Pakistan today than ever in our history.
	Lawyer Shehzad Akbar from the legal charity Reprieve is collecting missile fragments for use in court actions by the wounded and the bereaved.
	Yes, I read this morning that they already stopped the protest.
	Ah, figures.
	Now, the question on my mind, besides the fact this guy was freaked out and obviously quit the job after almost blowing up some little kid that was just building a, you know, sandcastle.
	What was this British guy doing?
	It sounded like he was a British guy.
	What was he doing?
	Is he working for the MI6 doing this?
	I mean, that's probably all CIA operations.
	What's this British guy doing looking at videos?
	Yeah, kill him!
	Yeah, I don't know.
	It's very unclear to me.
	Well, it's like this what happened yesterday.
	Who is spying on Israel from the air?
	That's what its military is wondering after shooting down a drone in southern Israel.
	Look at this video.
	A statement from the Israel Defense Forces.
	It says, it is not clear where the drone came from, but it carried no weapons or explosives.
	Israeli soldiers are searching for clues in the area where it was brought down.
	So I was talking to our knight here who showed up yesterday with his lovely dame and saint.
	And he, let me just put it this way, he's from Virginia.
	And so he's saying, the thing about the drones...
	And he says you have no idea how many drones are being built and shipped all around the world.
	He says there's no accountability.
	And this is exactly it.
	When you hear some British guy, he could be working for a company, John.
	It doesn't have to be an army or an intelligence unit.
	You and I, if we can pony together enough money, we can build a drone.
	We can have it go fly somewhere, and if we got a competitor...
	Like, we make an iPhone?
	Like, hey, you know what?
	Screw this Apple company.
	Let's drone Foxconn.
	We can do that.
	This is the problem with the drones.
	It's no accountability.
	They don't all have the American flag painted on the side.
	In fact, even the American ones don't have the American flag painted on the side.
	Thank you!
	Thank you!
	You've seen the drones.
	They're just a big piece of gray metal.
	And so these things, anyone can, you know, look, kids are flying little mini-drones.
	Anyone can put together a drone and now there's enough parts and enough pieces all over the place.
	It's going to be used for industrial warfare.
	Well, they had that guy.
	It was a YouTube video.
	I think we discussed it when it came out about two, three, four, five months ago.
	This guy had rigged up a submachine gun.
	Yeah, it turns out that's fake.
	Oh, is the whole thing fake?
	That video was fake.
	It may be fake, but it's a doable situation.
	You can do it if you had a big enough drone.
	That's my favorite guy.
	That's the Russian guy who shoots all kinds of crazy weapons.
	Yeah.
	His YouTube channel is without a doubt one of my favorites.
	But that one with the machine gun mounted on the drone, that was fake.
	And I have that on high authority from one of our other producers also...
	Enlisted somewhere.
	I gotta start watching what I say.
	We have so many people telling us so many cool things.
	For instance, what's really going on in Syria and Turkey?
	Yeah, I have a clip about that, too.
	Hold on, hold on.
	I'll play it for you, and then we'll play yours.
	This civil war is spilling over its borders.
	Today, the Turkish village of Govece was hit by two mortar shells.
	Nobody was hurt, and it's thought the shells were lobbed into Turkey by mistake during fighting between Syrian rebels and regime forces.
	But the Turkish military returned fire for the fourth day in a row.
	Turkey has openly sided with the rebels in Syria's conflict, though so far it hasn't intervened directly.
	Now some fear that border skirmishes between the two countries could escalate into a regional war.
	On Wednesday, a mortar bomb fired from Syria killed five civilians in a Turkish border town, including a mother and her three children.
	In response, the Turkish parliament voted to approve the use of force against Syria if it's deemed necessary.
	Today, Turkey's deputy prime minister described that decision as a warning.
	We have to protect our sovereignty, our security and the lives of our people, he said.
	So I'd like to point out that some of the bombs that have been lobbed, as this report says, they were lobbed over the border.
	Maybe that's a British expression that doesn't translate well into my brain, but it's not like just someone lobbed one over the fence.
	Well, the report I have, that's a British report.
	I think mine is from China.
	And so it has a slightly different twist to it because the Chinese are more inclined to back Libya or Syria.
	What was once concern and speculation appears to be turning into reality.
	A third straight day of sporadic fire between Syria and Turkey is stoking fears of a regional conflict.
	But that's something nobody wants, including those leading Syria's opposition fighters.
	We do not want Turkey getting to the war with Syria, but we want humanitarian aid such as bread, water, food and medicine.
	Thank God Turkey has helped us a lot.
	On Wednesday, Syrian troops fired a mortar bomb into Turkey.
	It landed in a residential district of the southeastern Turkish town of Akchakale.
	A woman and four children from the same family were killed, and at least eight other people wounded.
	In retaliation, Turkey fired back at targets inside Syria.
	Syria apologized to Turkey for Wednesday's mortar attack, saying such incidents would not be repeated.
	But on Friday, another mortar landed inside Turkey from the Syrian side, and the exchanges have now continued for a third straight day.
	So here's the only problem, John, is that the mortars that have been landing in Turkey, not all of which have exploded, are NATO bombs.
	The Syrian regime does not have NATO munitions.
	No, they have Russian munitions.
	Right.
	So these bombs are clearly being lobbed over by the so-called rebels or Al-Qaeda or whatever stupid name they have to get Turkey into the game.
	Well, I think Turkey may be the one sending the bombs because they want to get in the game.
	Remember when the Turkish jet flew over Syria and it was gunned down, the Turks made a big fuss about, oh, you're attacking us.
	Well, yeah, your jet was over our airspace.
	That's why.
	And then they went back to the drawing board.
	They said, oh, this is no good.
	No one's going to back us on this one.
	So wait a minute.
	Wait a minute.
	So they are actually...
	Doing to their own people what they accuse the Assad regime of doing?
	They're blowing up their own people?
	I'm just saying they're the ones who have the NATO munitions as far as I know.
	They're part of NATO, aren't they?
	Yes.
	I mean, what would the rebels be doing with NATO gear?
	Well, it's been given to them by us.
	The more likely...
	Who wants to get into a war and take over the place?
	You have to know that a lot of these rebels who are now in Syria came from Libya.
	And Libya, they definitely got NATO munitions there.
	Well, whatever the case is, who wants to be in this war?
	I think that, and if you notice, most of the mortars have hit in the middle of nowhere.
	I think it was an accident that one of the things hit and killed a woman and their kids.
	I'll take that.
	When there was somebody in that place, you idiot!
	I'll take that.
	I'll take that.
	Yeah, I take it.
	Well, yes, we know that Turkey wants to be in it because they have a very strategic benefit from this.
	I am still not thinking that we're going to have any real no-fly zone NATO action for a while because this is just fine.
	I think, you know, Lucifer Clinton loves this.
	Just let everyone fight and maybe we can get Lebanon involved.
	Let these guys all fight amongst themselves and we don't have to do anything.
	I think so far so good on plan.
	It's a win-win.
	Yeah, I agree.
	Win-win, baby!
	Well, that's not actually what she said.
	You know what she said.
	What did she say?
	It's almost too delicious to believe, my friend.
	Come on, man.
	You walked right into that one.
	I was just expecting it.
	Oh, good, good, good.
	I knew you had that clip lined up.
	Because if it was a real good clip of something that was meaningful instead of just a joke, you would have played it on top of me instead of trying to set me up.
	Right.
	I know you're...
	You know all my tricks.
	Very important report.
	I think we have discussed the law of the children.
	This is all part of the United Nations who want to take away parents' rights.
	This will be, and this kind of comes out, you've got Agenda 21 on one hand, and we have to, and maybe this plays right into the pedo-bear rings, where whatever it is, we have to make laws for more reasons to take your children away from you.
	Delaware has become the first state to pass a controversial law that effectively outlaws the corporal discipline of children by their parents.
	Now, the bill redefines child abuse laws to include any act that causes pain.
	Delaware's attorney, General Bo Biden, son of Vice President Joe Biden, of course, he says the old law needed to be changed because it had been difficult to prosecute cases where a child was too young to speak or otherwise nonverbal.
	No spanking is what that means.
	Yeah, that's what it means.
	Yeah.
	No spankings.
	Yeah.
	And the kid can report you.
	Yeah.
	Hey, old man spanked me, so I put a gun on him and said, I'm turning you in, punk.
	That's exactly how the kid's going to talk.
	And that's Joe Biden's son.
	Do you think the kids will use this as leverage?
	Please.
	So it hasn't actually been passed yet, but I'm looking forward to that one.
	But this is a real initiative.
	This is a real United Nations.
	Remember we read the, what was it called, the Law of the Children, wasn't that what it was called?
	Yeah, we spent quite a bit of time on it, even though I can't remember what it's called.
	But it's, yeah, it's another United Nations piece of crap designed to ruin all civilization.
	Yeah, it's rights.
	Like a food crap.
	Let me just, I want to look that up.
	Rights of the children.
	You're right, it's some, yeah, something dumb.
	Rights of the Child Treaty.
	There you go.
	That's okay, by the way, if you're a Muslim country, let's say, I don't know, Pakistan, they have to put this in play, Rights of the Children, but you can beat the crap out of them as your wife or a girl.
	Well, if they deserve it.
	Yeah, well, they always do.
	You're worse than I am.
	Rights of the Child.
	Let me just see.
	Let me see.
	New World Order.
	I'm just looking at episode 410.
	410 is when we talked about it.
	And, yeah, the Rights of the Child.
	Wow.
	40 shows ago.
	40 shows.
	How early were we?
	40 shows ago.
	That's like 20 weeks early on the show, on the message.
	And now Don Lemon...
	We're so far ahead on some of these stories that it's like nobody even...
	This is always a problem if you're a good visionary.
	You get so far ahead of the curve that by the time the curve comes around and is revealed...
	No one remembers.
	We're way on this like 20 weeks ago.
	So is that a good thing?
	It's like five months ago.
	I don't think this is a good thing.
	Well, we have no choice.
	That's what we do.
	That's what we do.
	So I have an end of show clip, which I think is worth playing.
	I think we should be wrapping.
	Okay.
	Oh, is that my cue?
	Ah, there we go.
	Yes.
	China investing in the U.S. This year we heard earlier that the Chinese were needling us about that.
	Yeah, we're investing in Africa, but we're actually investing more in the United States.
	So I thought it was interesting that they're investing in certain cities, and the city they choose is like, wow, they choose what?
	And they're moving in.
	The Chinese are going to turn the United States into another colony.
	Well, regardless, we're going to have a road trip to that city to go and see if we can pick up some cash.
	From the Chiners.
	10-11-12 is coming up on Thursday.
	We look forward to seeing you there and your support of the program.
	Of course, our October 26th, 55-55, our fifth anniversary.
	Go to Dvorak.org slash NA. And I'll be back at home base, Camp MoFo, everybody.
	So looking forward to that and bringing you another stellar episode of the best podcasts in the universe.
	Coming to you from the town of Douche here in Washington in the District of Columbia.
	Hey, in the morning, everybody.
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	Local American officials try to entice 150 visiting Chinese investors with details on logistics and other incentives in their area.
	This isn't New York or Los Angeles, though.
	It's Toledo, a small industrial city of 300,000 people in the state of Ohio.
	This conference is the culmination of four visits to China by Toledo's mayor and his staff to cultivate interest in their city.
	When I went to China, there were cities that 15 or 20 years ago had 50,000 people, and now they've got 15 million.
	So if you want to learn about economic development, you go to where economic development is occurring and is occurring at an unnatural pace.
	The Great Recession devastated Toledo's economy.
	Bell has straightened out the city's once destitute finances.
	Now, he says, foreign investment, especially from China, is a key part of his strategy to create jobs.
	Chinese developers bought one of Toledo's two downtown hotels.
	That same company organized the recent conference and has set up an incubator to help Chinese companies explore the area.
	When we started the whole planning process, we never anticipated we have this much turnout.
	The hope is that connections made at conferences like these will one day blossom into concrete partnerships.
	I didn't know Toledo, Ohio before, but through the conference and experts, we now think that it's a good place for investment.
	This is my first visit.
	I need to learn more about local U.S. laws and policies, as well as investment conditions in Toledo.
	Now, last year, Toledo had already secured a major Chinese investment in real estate there.
	A group known as Dashing Pacific purchased some prime riverfront real estate right in the middle of downtown Toledo where they plan to develop a multi-use complex that will include shops, housing, and office space.
	All told, that could bring in about $300 million of investment and it could end up being one of the largest Chinese-owned real estate developments in the United States.
	Craig Morrow, CCTV, Chicago.
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