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	Zuck, zuck, zuck, zuck.
	Adam Couric, John C. Dvorak.
	It's Thursday, September 20th, 2012.
	Time for your Gitmo Nation Media Assassination Episode 445.
	This is No Agenda.
	No.
	Struggling with Skype, but on the air nonetheless, from Obama's backyard, Chicago, Illinois.
	In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
	And from Northern Silicon Valley, where I'm just staying put while reading the New York Times, I'm John C. Dvorak.
	Oh, it sounds so crappy today.
	They say you sound tinny on the stream.
	Yeah, well, maybe it's because I'm talking out of my butt.
	So what's new?
	Well, you know, this is not the lovely setup that I had on the road.
	No, of course not.
	This is in a suitcase.
	Your normal rig actually was on the road.
	Yeah, no, this is the internet in a suitcase.
	So basically I run everything on one single machine.
	Because, you know, the other one had multiple monitors.
	It had, what else did it have?
	You know, it had like the whole big thing.
	The whole shebang.
	Yeah, it wouldn't fit in three suitcases.
	So, this is, you know, and also when I talk, I hear a little delay.
	So, I hear my voice a millisecond later than it comes out of my pie hole.
	That's not, that's got to be annoying.
	But I've done a little bit of the filtering here, so it should work.
	Anyway, in the morning to you, John C. Dvorak.
	Well, in the morning to you, Adam Curry.
	In the morning to all ships at sea, boots on the ground, subs in the water, feet in the air, and all the knights out there who patiently wait for our words of wisdom.
	Yes, and thank you all of the human resources in the chat room at noagendastream.com, noagendachat.net, who have been helping us troubleshoot for the past half hour to get everything sounding kind of decent.
	Right now we're running.
	I'm in a hotel here, kind of near Chicago Avenue and State Street.
	Wow, you're like downtown.
	Yeah, yeah.
	And of course, the hotel Wi-Fi.
	Did you rent a car?
	No.
	No, no, no.
	We're walking.
	I did a speech yesterday.
	I'm here for the Cusp Conference.
	Yeah, somebody said, hey, Adam's on.
	He's streaming right now.
	Oh, they streamed it?
	Yeah.
	Oh, really?
	Oh, I didn't realize that.
	I missed it.
	It came in as a tweet, but I missed it.
	Oh, I didn't realize that.
	When I went to the stream, it was some people doing ice dancing.
	No, no, they were jump roping, ice dancing.
	Yeah, no, jump roping, that's right.
	Then you missed me.
	That was right after I was done.
	Oh, that's too bad.
	Yeah, jump roping to some canned music.
	It sucked.
	No, no, no.
	Let me tell you about this conference.
	You remember Chuck and Dana, who we stayed with on the first Hot Pockets tour?
	Yes, I don't.
	Yes, you don't.
	Exactly.
	Well, Chuck actually had a real harp, and we had the real harp playing in the...
	A blues harp?
	No, like a classical harp.
	Uh-huh.
	Anyway, so they were really sweet, and we stayed with them for a few days.
	And Chuck works for this company, Symbolic, or S-Embolic, which is a design company.
	And apparently they've been putting on this conference for the past five years, and it's literally like a TED, but without the stigma and the bullshit elitism.
	So it's like TED? But without the stigma and the bullshit elitism.
	Well, there's nothing like Ted.
	Yeah, exactly.
	And they literally say, you know, and the three partners of this firm, they get up on stage and say, well, hey, buddy, you know, the people we've invited to hear inspire you.
	We have no idea what they're going to say.
	They're probably going to offend somebody at some point, and it's all going to fucking suck.
	Literally, that's how they talk.
	But it's done at the Museum of Contemporary Art.
	It's really high-tech.
	They've got a great AV setup, beautiful theater, and the presenters were just outstanding.
	We were blown away.
	Mickey was supposed to go shopping at Topshop, and she stayed in her seat for six hours yesterday just watching everything.
	So what did you learn?
	I learned...
	Oh, man.
	Well, let me tell you.
	I learned three things.
	No, no, listen.
	One, the guy before me, the speaker before me, was Wendell Potter.
	I'm not even going to ask you.
	He wrote the book Deadly Spin, which I read somewhere in 2010, I think, and that was the book that led me.
	He's the former Cigna healthcare guy who turned around and wrote the book and said, hey, everyone's just screwing you in this healthcare business.
	Remember this guy?
	Yeah.
	So he was the one that inspired me to go look at all of the PowerPoint presentations of the pharmaceutical companies when we discovered that vaccines was going to be their next big push.
	So then he was speaking before me, so it was like a total perfect setup for me to talk about no agenda, because he was like, hey, you know, everyone's lying to you, and And the healthcare guys are in the sickness business.
	It's the sickness industry.
	It was fantastic.
	The guy is really cool.
	But even funnier than that, do you remember the Indian comedians that the State Department spent like $180,000 on to send them around a tour of India?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, these guys were here.
	One of them was speaking.
	Yeah.
	Do you stand up?
	Yeah, stand up.
	And what's worse is the guy's like, hey, Adam, I'm a big fan.
	I'm like, oh, shoot, man.
	After we ragged on these guys, I felt really bad.
	Maybe he knew you ragged on them, so he said that just to get your goat.
	No, I didn't.
	They had no idea.
	They had no idea.
	I did tell him, though.
	I came clean.
	I said, hey, we really ragged on that whole scam you guys pulled off.
	He said, yeah, that was pretty cool.
	Yeah, all right.
	And who else was here?
	I mean, it's very interesting.
	So I've definitely learned some cool things at the conference.
	I guess it's online then.
	Maybe there's a video of it.
	You can see it.
	But I definitely talked about our podcast, John.
	I didn't just take all the props myself like you usually expect me to do.
	So, I have to tell you something, because it's going to begin to annoy me.
	I don't know how you're working the mic, but you have a lip smack at the end of occasional sentences.
	So, you say something, and then you hear...
	Yeah, no, I believe it's the mic, or the way you're working the mic.
	Because I've never heard this before from you.
	It's my lips.
	But you keep saying something.
	No, no, that's just what you're hearing.
	That's definitely not me.
	I'll ring the bell when I hear it, and then you can decipher yourself.
	No, that wasn't it.
	I don't think I'm lip-smacking.
	Did you hear it there?
	No.
	Okay.
	So, anyway, so of course the pain in the ass of doing this is that, you know, I'm here on the show day and I'm in the hotel and it's going to be this way for the next couple of weeks because after this, well, I think Sunday is a normal show from Camp Mofo.
	Then it's Miss Mickey's turn.
	She's got her, you know, her big art show.
	So we're going to go to Los Angeles first.
	That'll be next week, Thursday and Sunday.
	That'll be a thrill.
	Well, yeah.
	Well, I mean, what, doing the shows there or doing the...
	Or going there.
	Yeah, well, it's...
	Hey, while you're at, while you're down there, you should go check in at the studios.
	I'm going to check in the studios.
	I'm also going to try and get on the Joe Rogan show.
	That's what I've been wanting to do.
	Yes, yes, get on the Joe Rogan show.
	We both need to do that.
	All right, and then after that, I'm going to go...
	We're going to D.C. for her second show, and then finally somewhere after that, you know, like, first week...
	End of the first week of October, we're back, so it's going to be a little weird...
	And it just makes it weird.
	I'm going to see if I can fix what's going on with the lip smacking.
	Well, it hasn't happened again.
	Maybe it was, I don't know.
	You know what it is?
	We're just so spoiled.
	Because we used to have crappy connections all the time back in the day.
	And it's still kind of amazing what's actually taking place.
	And we would not want to miss an episode to bring you the best podcast in the universe.
	That's why we are proudly here, bringing you episode 400.
	Yes, we go out of our way.
	I mean, we have missed shows.
	We took two days off once in five years.
	But generally speaking, we managed to get these shows produced when we're floating around the world.
	Yep.
	And the worst case scenario, of course, was we're on some island.
	That was really the absolute worst, yeah, when I was on Bonaire.
	That would have to be, yeah.
	Yeah, that's been bad.
	This is a second close, though.
	I mean, it's not far off from being pretty bad.
	Anyway, you got the lip smack?
	I don't know what it is.
	Maybe I'm lip-smacking.
	Maybe this is a new habit.
	I think it's something you ate.
	Is it strawberries?
	It's the Haldol.
	I've gotten two offers for Haldol.
	Do not take it.
	What are you, my dad now?
	I can't decide if I want to take it.
	Yes, I am.
	You said so once before.
	Well, Daddy, I want to try Haldol.
	It sounds so fun.
	I won't take it on the show.
	I just want to try it.
	Take it on the show, then.
	People will be tuning in.
	I'd just be, what is it, the drooling zombie?
	Hang it out.
	Anyway.
	So, by the way, we closed on a couple of things from the Red Book.
	Oh, yes.
	What did we do?
	How did we do?
	Well, I got two clips.
	One of them is what you call this one.
	You call Baluchistan.
	Ah, Baluchistan or Baluchistan.
	Do you know what's going on there now?
	Play the Baluchistan rundown and we'll catch up to Baluchistan.
	It is no longer a war for autonomy or self-determination.
	This is now a war of independence.
	Whether the international community recognizes it or not, this is what the Baloch people are fighting.
	And the Pakistan army, so far, it is said they have made 15,000 people disappear.
	Nationalist leaders say U.S.-supplied resources and weapons meant to combat al-Qaeda-linked Taliban on the Pakistan-Afghanistan border are being used against the Balochs.
	Pakistan is a It's using all the resources that the American government is giving Pakistan to fight the Islamic extremists and terrorists, but those resources and the monies are being spent against the Baloch people, against the Baloch national movement, and against the Baloch freedom fighter.
	Yes, it makes so much sense because these people who are in the northwestern part of Pakistan are clearly dangerous to America.
	This is why we have to kill them.
	Disappear them.
	15,000 of them.
	It's a good number, jeez.
	So this, of course, for those of you who did not hear the analysis of this in the initial Red Book entry, is because of the pipeline, the Turkmenistan-Afghanistan-Pakistan-India pipeline, also known as TAPI, which is literally going through this region, and the freedom fighters, as they're called, who are being disappeared, they just don't want no part of it.
	And either they're blowing the pipeline up or they're standing in the way or they're parking their camels there.
	I don't know what's going on, but the people are being disappeared because of this and it's purely because of the pipeline.
	Now, another show, when the Libyan thing first broke out, our initial analysis was that Duffy had decided to get tight with the Chiners.
	Right.
	And that meant the refinery, and it meant all these other things, and they had to stop.
	Right.
	We don't care if the Muslim Brotherhood takes over Libya, which they might, or one of these, or works, but these Chinese not.
	So they ran this little tidbit, which got by us, which is the clip, where is it?
	Libya, there's a Libya clip.
	I don't see a Libya clip.
	Yeah, French democracy at the bottom.
	William McKay, Spain, Spain.
	I have no agenda.
	There's no agenda.
	We can't miss China and Libya.
	All of this instability has a crippling impact on Benghazi's ambition to rebuild.
	This sprawling new town for 200,000 people was abandoned last year by its Chinese developers.
	They and other foreign investors have yet to return.
	Okay, so they show this.
	This is like one of those ghost cities in China they were building.
	Uh-huh.
	It was huge.
	And they show the whole thing, and it's kind of like just essentially framework, all cement framework that's gutted, because they never got halfway through the project.
	But it was a whole town the Chinese were building, just like they've been doing throughout Africa.
	And I guess, I think that's another nail in the coffin for the Chinese in Libya, and that's why we let this whole thing blow up.
	But it's huge.
	That was the beginning of a design of 200,000 people.
	You know what's really cool is that the minute you start to get into some interesting news, particularly about China, Skype just decides to make you sound like you're in China.
	Funny, because your sound deteriorated, too.
	Yeah.
	What do we do?
	Well, now it's back.
	Oh, really?
	Well, you're not.
	Great.
	So how do we tie this into what's happening with the Chinas and Tokyo?
	Let me play this report to you because these islands, what's going on, and these fake protests are very interesting.
	And here's the report that really throws some fuel on the fire.
	11 Chinese government ships are assembled in waters around the island.
	Smaller vessels have also been seen anchored offshore.
	Now this follows the latest in a series of anti-Japan demonstrations within China.
	Our correspondent Martin Patience sent us this update from Beijing.
	Well, the protesters have been chanting things like declare war in Japan, as well as flatten Tokyo, but despite all the anger, it's actually pretty orderly here.
	There's a heavy police presence.
	Flatten Tokyo!
	Am I supposed to believe that literally walking around calling flattened Tokyo in Beijing?
	Yeah.
	Now, I understand that part of this is, depending on what report you listen to, because I've been watching both the Chinese news and the Japanese news.
	The Japanese are very distressed by this, by the way.
	But they're both reporting on it, of course, calling the islands different things.
	And one of the things that struck me is that the Chinese, they don't mention this in most of these English reports, there's like some anniversary of the rape of Nanking.
	And this is still an issue because the Japanese have refused to apologize for what they did to the Chinese during that era pre-World War II. And I think that element is at play.
	But is this just a prelude to an attack, a prelude to war?
	I mean, it seems like an awful lot...
	It's a prelude to an apology.
	I guarantee, in fact, I put it in the book, that the Japanese are going to be forced to apologize for this Nanking situation, because I honestly believe that's what's really behind this.
	Then they'll start negotiating over about the rights to this big oil field, which is actually what this is all about.
	So when did this Nanking thing happen?
	What do you know?
	The rape of Nanking.
	This happened in the 30s.
	Oh, yeah.
	Sure.
	I remember.
	Yeah.
	I mean, this is a major part of history where the Japanese took over part of China and then they just basically killed people and raped all the women and they were just the most brutal regime in the history of China and the Chinese are still pissed off about it.
	And the Japanese have refused to apologize.
	Yeah, we've talked about this.
	Now I'm recalling we've talked about this before.
	On the show years ago, and it was from some other thing that happened, and I think it related directly to this as well.
	The Chinese have a long memory, and they want an apology.
	And the Japanese are so full of pride, they won't give it.
	Well, why don't they just come out and say it?
	Hey, apologize.
	Because they don't think it's cool.
	I don't know.
	It doesn't make sense to me either.
	But the Japanese refuse to apologize because then they would admit they were wrong.
	Right.
	And they don't want to do that.
	I have no idea.
	There's no real explanation that's valid.
	The Japanese have changed their textbooks, their history textbooks, and they don't have much about this in there.
	And they don't, you know, they kind of like, they blame...
	It's like none of it was their fault.
	It's just really depressing, actually.
	Right, but still it comes down to the oil and gas fields that surround these islands.
	Right, but this is just an excuse.
	But I would say that no negotiations will begin, and this is going to continue until the...
	I really do think they're related.
	I think the reason for all the protests, because there's other ways of dealing with this problem, besides protesting and shutting down all the Japanese businesses.
	The sushi shop was raided, busted up the place in downtown Beijing.
	There's a little Japan town there.
	The place all closes down.
	They're rushing these guys out of the country.
	The Japanese are closing things in China.
	It's spiraling out of control.
	So I met a guy yesterday who came up to me and he said, Hey Adam, you and John, you've been looking at the helium shortage.
	And he told me why.
	He told you why we're looking at it?
	No, he told me why there's a helium shortage.
	Okay.
	And he said he actually paid a firm money to research this.
	His company is Pioneer Balloon.
	He sells helium balloons.
	Daniel Flynn.
	And he's the chief operating officer.
	And he says the reason why is we had two plants go offline.
	Helium, of course, you trap helium when you're getting natural gas out of the ground.
	Right.
	He says the number one reason is we're just not pumping gas out anywhere really, even though there's a lot of talk and a lot of talk about fracking and really big talk.
	He says it is too expensive to get the gas out of the ground and until the price goes above $3.20 per mega BTU or whatever.
	The price right now of natural gas is so in the tank.
	Let me take a look.
	And what's even more interesting, he said that the Russians, because I said, well, how about Gazprom?
	These guys got tons of gas.
	He says the Russians have lots of helium, but they're not exporting it.
	So what are they doing?
	Just sucking on it and talking in high voices all day?
	What are they going to do with helium?
	He says, I don't know, but they're not exporting.
	And therefore, there is a huge shortage in the entire world.
	But he says it's the direct result of the price of gas being too low to actually get it out of the ground.
	So he says it needs to be $3.25.
	Right now the price of gas is $3.20.
	$3.20, he said.
	Right now it's $2.70.
	$8.80.
	So he says that it's just been depressed.
	It's never down to $2.75.
	It's really been low for a long time.
	And so what he's saying is that all this talk about natural gas, they're not even really pumping it out of the ground.
	At this price, they're just not doing it.
	That's what I thought was really interesting.
	And therefore, we have no helium.
	Okay.
	That makes nothing but sense to me.
	Yeah.
	It's all bogus.
	In other words, everything is bullcrap.
	Gee.
	Hey, there's a newsflash.
	Bullshit.
	Newsflash.
	Everything is bullcrap, John.
	But it is kind of interesting how all these commercials for America's natural gas, they've got to figure out some way to jack that price up, and I don't know how they're going to do it.
	I think they've tried just about everything and can't come up with a reasonable way to do it.
	No, they have.
	T. Boone Pickens has been out there, the tub thumping, trying to get people to liquefy it, do anything you can.
	Natural gas is really cheap.
	We can probably put a prediction in the book if we just think hard enough about how they're going to do this.
	You have to either increase demand or decrease supply.
	Isn't that the two main ways you do it?
	Yeah, well, they've tried both.
	That doesn't work.
	Or the price of oil, they figure, well, when oil gets about 80 bucks, people start switching over to natural gas, and they never have.
	It's weird.
	And the big plants, you know, we can't, well, once they put the clamps on coal, we can't use coal anymore.
	So they switch over to natural gas, and it still doesn't move the price.
	When the price moves, it's going to move.
	Oh yeah, then it may move very fast.
	Yeah, then it'll be five bucks.
	Yeah, it'll move real fast.
	You don't want to be bitching about the price of natural gas.
	Everything works like that.
	But it's been forever.
	I mean, it's unbelievably hot.
	It actually stuns the traders on Wall Street, or the commodity traders, about the price of natural gas being so low.
	It's staying there.
	Well, you'd think those guys would be able to do something, would be able to jack it up.
	That's kind of what they do.
	That's what they do.
	I know, but they can't do it.
	I don't know how much of a day, how much power they really have.
	Google's up to $724 a share.
	Let's thank our producers, John, while I can still actually hear you.
	Am I falling apart?
	It's really bad.
	It's just really, really bad.
	It's not going to make any difference.
	It's not going to make any difference.
	It's just not.
	Ever since Microsoft took over Skype, they've just started to suck balls.
	Okay.
	Well, we do have a couple of associate executive producers and one executive producer for today's show, 445, Eric Wilka in Rushaville, Indiana, which I bet it was found by Russians.
	$333.33 in the morning.
	John and Adam love the show.
	Greatly appreciate the deconstruction of PR and neuro-linguistic programming techniques.
	I recently started a new job and I can finally make a donation to complete my first knighthood.
	Could I please have some scotch and cigars with my hookers and blow?
	And since the Karma shot worked well in getting the job, which starting pay was more than I was going to originally ask for, could I please have another shot for my apartment search?
	And lastly, remind me where to send my ring size information.
	I think it's rings at No Agenda Nation.
	Yeah, correct.
	You guys do a wonderful show.
	Keep the good work.
	Uh, and he's got an accounting for his knighthood, which he'll receive later today.
	Well, hold on, hold on, hold on.
	I've got to give him a little karma shot there.
	You can't overlook the karma shot.
	Here we go.
	You've got karma.
	Hopefully you get an apartment wherever it is you are.
	Uh...
	Sir Guy or Guy?
	I think it's Guy Boazi.
	I think it is Guy too.
	And he's in Tel Aviv.
	229.74.
	Since my birthday is just around the corner, I'm sending my special yearly birthday contribution based on my date.
	Euro style.
	The value I receive from the greatest podcast in the universe is greater than this donation.
	Well, we all give what we can, or do we?
	Please send a douchebag call out to all the 99% boners.
	All right.
	Douchebag!
	Please send me a rain stick plus Tapu Tai Chin Chin Karma.
	I feel bad.
	I'm sorry.
	I didn't travel with the rain stick this time.
	Eh...
	Okay, well, you owe him a rain stick.
	Since here in Juguitmo this summer is still strong with no rain in sight, yeah, they could probably use some rain in Tel Aviv.
	It's always dry there.
	Yeah.
	Thanks again for all the hard work you do for us.
	And now I'm looking for my...
	I don't know where Tapu Tati Chin Chin is either.
	This is a mess.
	Let me get in the karma first and I'll go look for that.
	You've got karma.
	Where's my Tapu Atari Chin Chin?
	Are you asking me?
	Well, let me look for that.
	I'm going to talk about Jesse Wilson from Hobart, Indiana.
	I think he was on the last show, too.
	Because Hobart is, you know, I always think of Hobart, the mixing, you know, the industrial company.
	223.
	Karma does work on the government.
	I got paid Monday.
	With last week's donation and today's, the total was 3-3-3-4-3-4, and this gives me a total of 11-11-11-11, which is also the first date I donated.
	Interesting.
	This makes me a knight for the second time.
	Woo!
	Once as a knight, temp, or masonic, and now for no agenda.
	So he's a knight, masonic knight, and now he's a no agenda knight.
	Isn't that weird or what?
	That's awesome.
	Karma shot, please.
	Okay, karma shot for you.
	You've got karma.
	And that's all we got for our producer for today's show, 445.
	I want to remind people that can help us out by going to noagenda.com, noagendanation.com, dvorak.org slash na, and channeldvorak.com slash na as an alternative.
	And help us continue on our pursuit of the truth.
	Yes.
	Entertainment value.
	And just think about what you spend to go to one of these lousy movies or the time you waste on television, which is, you know, 20 minutes of commercials, 40 minutes of programming.
	And we give you, what, two and a half hours, five hours a week, times four hours.
	It's like 20 hours a month plus.
	Yeah, we're going to have to subtract today's show, though, because you're only getting half the program.
	You're only hearing my part and not John, so...
	And of course, you can always do something extremely important, which is, I don't know, propagate the formula?
	The formula is this.
	We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
	New World Order.
	Oh yeah, everybody, come on, say it late and proud now, Sean.
	Shut up, slave!
	Everything's a mess, John.
	The whole thing is a mess.
	Shut up, slave!
	I'm going to call you back because you've deteriorated so much, I'm almost thinking you might want to reboot your router or something.
	I don't know what it is.
	This is 4G, ladies and gentlemen, 4G. We've done 4G before and it worked fine.
	This is 4G in Chicago.
	Do you think it's worth rebooting your router?
	I can do it.
	It doesn't hurt.
	It just takes about two minutes.
	You just do that because let's at least try it.
	I'm sitting here just sweating and getting angry.
	Yeah.
	Okay, bye.
	Hope you all understand.
	Alright, I'm back.
	Okay.
	Well, it's good for now.
	I have a long...
	Right, please.
	I have a long clip that I only...
	Because I think it needs discussing.
	Okay.
	The banking issues that need discussing.
	We've talked about what's going on in Europe.
	And by the way, it looks like, well, that's some other issues, but I don't know.
	I had this clip, and I'm trying to clip pieces from it.
	I said, I don't know, maybe we should just play this clip and then discuss it, because maybe you know more about it than I do, but it seems to be that...
	All these things that the EU is going to do, they haven't done half of them, and they're going to do them, and they're not going to do them.
	Okay.
	All right, let's take a listen.
	The proposed region-wide banking system.
	Deep divisions over the Eurozone's proposed banking union dominated the meeting of EU finance ministers in Cyprus, which wrapped up on Saturday.
	Brussels wanted the first step of that union to be the European Central Bank, becoming the supervisor of all the bloc's roughly 6,000 banks.
	For the agreement to work, all 17 Eurozone countries must sign off on a single binding blueprint, which non-Euro-EU countries can join if they wish.
	But Germany and Sweden rejected the idea of the ECB being the supervisor.
	And Berlin wants only a few hundred big banks to be handled by the scheme, while Sweden's minister said his country would never accept an external supervisor.
	Even the ECB hinted that a basic legal framework might be a better idea than taking direct charge of all the bloc's banks.
	Crucially, the legal authority over all the banks is necessary because then we will have the authority at any moment to call in to a closer supervision any bank or group of banks that we see fit to call to the centre.
	And desperate for growth, the private sector watched on, believing the ECB's time would be better spent on other projects anyway.
	The ECB should now target the banks and force them to start lending to businesses.
	It was announced that the European Stability Mechanism, the new bailout fund, would have its first board meeting next month.
	But many economists believe it will take a lot more time before the fund will be operational and ready to recapitalize troubled banks.
	It's not easy to implement...
	Well, this is pretty much, I think, what we talked about when Haiku Herman essentially placed the proposal on the table saying, okay, you have to pool all your sovereignty.
	We're going to get the regulator in.
	I mean, it's just another stepping stone for...
	Towards the complete takeover of the European Union, of Europe essentially, by the pharmaceutical companies, the oil companies, all based upon patents and genetically modified crap to just keep these people completely enslaved.
	500 million people.
	It's nothing new to me.
	Well, here's what gets me.
	Even though, obviously, my voice is not good.
	Why is Germany against this idea?
	I thought this whole scheme, the whole EU scheme was to give Germany the power over everyone as a kind of the Fourth Reich.
	I don't, that may be just, well, okay, here's the way I see it.
	Germany likes, they like the controlling of the slaves.
	But they don't like anyone having anything to say over their banking system, over the German bank.
	I think that's where the rub is.
	It may just be a smokescreen, John.
	I don't know.
	The way I see it, the way this European Union has been built up since, what is it, 1956 or 1957 when they first started it, it's all been about the same thing.
	It's been about the patents on pharmaceuticals, make sure no one eats any healthy food, get them all the GMO. Remember, that was never going to happen in Europe.
	Now it's all over the place.
	Keep the oil.
	By the way, that transition from never going to happen to everyone's got it now is amazing.
	Isn't it?
	Isn't it, though?
	So, you know, it's just more of the same, and it's another stepping stone.
	And, you know, I talk to people in Europe, and they don't, they're not even, I don't know if they're just completely oblivious to it, don't care, if they're too wrapped up in their local national politics, they really don't see the big picture.
	It's astounding to me how they do not see the big picture of what is really taking place right before their very eyes.
	Well, we're having the same problem in this country, and we're not seeing it either.
	I do have one more clip, because you brought it up.
	The GMO, this is what you can expect in Europe in the years ahead.
	The agricultural update on superweeds.
	Woo!
	For every action, there's a reaction, and it is true in the world of pharmaceuticals as well.
	An increase in genetically modified crops in the United States has led to a rise in so-called superweeds.
	These pesky plants are resistant to many herbicides, forcing farmers to use up to 20 times the recommended dose of weed killer.
	Matt McGrath reports.
	The rise of resistant weeds on Jeremy Leach's farm near Humboldt, Nebraska, has threatened both his livelihood and his family.
	Last year he spent around $7,500 on chemical sprays that failed to protect his crops.
	Can you help unload corn?
	And the pungent pollen from these superweeds seriously affected his eight-year-old daughter's asthma.
	When that stuff's pollinating, when the pollen's really thick in the air, it makes it hard for her to breathe outside.
	And when you live on a farm...
	You know, the kids play outside all the time.
	One of the weeds causing the biggest problems for farmers across the United States is giant ragweed.
	And I'm in a field of it now, and you can see these plants tower over my head.
	They're six to seven feet tall.
	The scientists here at the University of Nebraska have been trying to kill these weeds using extra doses of chemical spray.
	These particular weeds were able to survive 24 times the recommended dose.
	And if the scientists can't kill them with chemicals, in three to five years, these weeds would take over this entire cornfield.
	The weed resistance has been caused by the huge success of GM in the US, which has encouraged farmers to use only one chemical.
	Now the biotech industry believes the solution to the weed problem lies in adding another herbicide that until now was too destructive to crops.
	2,4-D. This time-lapse shows the gradual killing of a common weed after spraying with 2,4-D weed killer.
	Dow AgriSciences has designed a corn that can resist 2,4-D, best known for being part of the mix that constituted Agent Orange.
	Monsanto.
	Oh, shoot.
	Monsanto.
	Yeah.
	So, wait a minute.
	Let me just understand this.
	In order to combat the super weed...
	By the way, these weeds are seven feet high.
	We're going to spray them with Agent Orange?
	Is this what I understand from the report?
	This is so awesome.
	This is just great.
	Hey, you know what, John?
	I'm just going to interrupt us one more time, and I'm going to try and switch to the hotel network, see if we have any luck with that, because it's just not worth it.
	Okay.
	All right, so let me just try that.
	So the stream will probably be interrupted temporarily.
	Let's see what happens and how we do.
	All kinds of crazy things could happen here.
	Let's see.
	Okay, we're switching networks.
	Hello?
	Hello?
	Hello.
	Eh, maybe better, I don't know.
	We'll see.
	Alright.
	We'll just try this for a little while.
	Okay.
	Man, this is going to be an edit job for sure.
	Sorry to hear that.
	I know how much you hate that.
	Yes, I do.
	But this has not gone unnoticed in our House of Representatives in the United States of America.
	Dennis Kucinich actually stood up in front of the House and he gave a little speech about Monsanto.
	Did you happen to catch this?
	No, I know, but I'm sure I will now.
	One minute.
	Thank you.
	In 1992, the Food and Drug Administration decided that genetically modified organisms were the functional equivalent of conventional foods.
	They arrived at this decision without testing GMOs for allergenicity, toxicity, antibiotic resistance, and functional characteristics.
	As a result, hundreds of millions of acres of GMO crops were planted in America Without the knowledge or consent of the American people, no safety testing, no long-term health studies.
	The FDA has received over a million comments from citizens demanding labeling of GMOs.
	Ninety percent of Americans agree.
	So why no labeling?
	I'll give you one reason.
	The influence and the corruption of the political process by Monsanto.
	Monsanto's been a prime mover in GMO technology, a multi-million dollar GMO lobby here, and a major political contributor.
	There is a chance that Monsanto's grip will be broken in California, where a GMO labeling initiative is on the ballot.
	And here in Congress, my legislation, H.R. 3553, will provide for a national labeling bill.
	Americans have a right to know if their food is genetically engineered.
	It's time for labeling.
	It's time for people to know how their food is being produced.
	I'd say it's pretty good they got him out of Congress, don't you?
	Oh yeah, I'm glad they rousted him.
	Good work, boys.
	Yeah, get rid of that guy.
	And by the way, when he gets out, when he's in the street, beat him up.
	Yeah, throw him in the mud.
	Do something like that.
	This is unbelievable.
	It's great.
	I mean, it's great that he's introducing a bill, which will go nowhere.
	And he's just laying it out there.
	I mean, this is what they should be showing on the news instead of Kate Middleton's boobs.
	And they never do show her boobs.
	So what's the point?
	Yeah, well...
	Speaking of Europe, that pretty much proved to me that Europe is just a totalitarian state.
	How in the world can you forbid a news or any type of publication from taking pictures of someone out in public on a boat and publicizing them?
	Of course, if you're a royal, it's not done.
	But if you're any other person, then screw you.
	And yet this has now been forbidden.
	I find it amazing that people put up with this.
	They not only put up with it, they are in agreement.
	Yeah, that's even worse.
	Here's a couple of clips from Kate, William and Kate, I thought were funny.
	First of all, let's play clip two first because there's the irony clip, but then I have a point to make.
	The gifting clip, is that the one you want?
	Yes, yeah, try that.
	Far away from the courtroom of Nanterre, the royal couple were concentrating on their continuing tour of the Solomon Islands.
	I saw this.
	The Duke and Duchess were each presented with a gift from a group of topless ceremonial dancers.
	In light of recent events, perhaps an awkward moment.
	Oh, somewhat awkward.
	You know, they walk...
	I saw the video.
	They walk right by, like, don't look at the boobies, don't look at the boobies, don't look at the boobies.
	But yet this is okay.
	The elites can go look at the black people's boobies, but ooh, let's not look at your white ones!
	So here's the thing, here's the two clips I want to play.
	One is the other, William and Kate.
	It has a little stinger at the end, which I thought was interesting, because it's like, wait a minute, we don't have, even we are free press, the United States free press, would never say what they're going to say in this clip.
	As yet, no name.
	The royals don't know the identity of the photographer that intruded on their privacy.
	The magazine is unlikely to tell them and the court won't force them to do so.
	In France, the protection of sources is taken very seriously.
	Oh, the protection of sources, eh?
	They're taken seriously in France.
	And so then, I'm thinking, well, that's nice for the French.
	Of course, the French will be part of the Civil War when it finally happens.
	Because they actually do value their freedom.
	And the French don't listen to our show because they know everything's crap anyway.
	Because they say, yeah, this is not news to them.
	So, French cartoons cause stir.
	This is the thing that's going to be interesting over the next week.
	It hasn't been played much in the U.S., but this is like the French, how they deal with this Muslim fiasco over the movie.
	A French satirical magazine published cartoons today that risk igniting new outrage in the Muslim world.
	They featured vulgar images of the Prophet Muhammad and satirized the violent reaction to an American-made film that insults Islam.
	Muslim leaders in France called the cartoons a disgraceful provocation, but the magazine's publishing director insisted it's about free speech.
	Muhammad is sacred for the Muslims, and I can understand that, but for Muslims only.
	I am atheist.
	Muhammad is not sacred for me.
	I understand perfectly that the Muslims don't violate the law of blasphemy, and I don't blame Muslims for not laughing at our drawings.
	But they shouldn't tell me under which law I should live.
	I live under French law, and I don't live under Quranic law.
	Yeah, this is interesting.
	A, because I've not been able to actually find any of these cartoons, drawings, pictures, illustrations, etc.
	And it seems like even the BBC couldn't find any of these.
	Let's see, I had, let me see, have you seen anything?
	Have you seen any of these?
	No, I haven't, but I just assume they've been censored.
	I think if you went to google.fr, it might be a route.
	I don't know.
	Well, here's a report that was on the BBC regarding this.
	And it may not be on the internet.
	I mean, not everything that they do in France.
	Just about everything makes it on one way or the other.
	Well, listen to this for a second.
	Well, I've been talking about all this before we came on air.
	First of all with Agnes Poirier, a French political commentator and film critic.
	She was on the line from Paris.
	And Oussama Hassan, senior researcher at the counter-terrorism think tank Quilliam.
	I began by asking Agnes Poirier whether she'd seen the cartoons.
	Well, I have seen some of the cartoons because from, you know, this morning, very early this morning, it was impossible to get a copy of Charlie Hebdo.
	I went to ten different newsagents in Paris.
	She's in Paris.
	And just couldn't find it.
	So I had to do with what some friends sent me.
	So I haven't got the full pictures.
	So she hasn't got the full pictures, yet she has an opinion.
	What's your response to what you've seen?
	Look, it's a question of taste, I guess, and sense of humor and sensitivity.
	Personally, I'm not a regular reader of Charlie Hebdo.
	Charlie Hebdo is in the trade of provocation, also of thought-provoking cartoons.
	It's news weekly.
	It must be said, I think it's important, covering the week's news in cartoons.
	And it's got a very irreverent...
	That's its trademark.
	Now, you know, you will always find people finding offensive.
	I have in the past.
	I'm asking what your impression was.
	Did you find it to be witty, biting satire, or was it?
	So, let me just remind you.
	This is on the BBC. She says, I have not seen it.
	I could not get the magazine.
	Some people have sent me some stuff.
	I've seen partial pictures, yet here she has a complete opinion.
	Well, wait a minute.
	Hold on a second.
	She's very clearly not saying that she...
	She's very clear about what she has and has not said.
	And this guy is goading her.
	Yeah, and then she has an answer.
	Opinion.
	Yeah, but he's hounding her, this British guy.
	Well, she's the correspondent.
	She's being paid to give a report.
	Well, I know, but at the same time, she just gave it.
	She said, look, I haven't seen the thing.
	And then she gave a background on the publication.
	What's she supposed to do?
	Well, she's supposed to lie.
	Here it comes.
	Some funny.
	I found some others not funny at all.
	Some vulgar.
	Some offensive.
	And some boring.
	She's just following the script.
	She didn't see anything.
	Well, that is the BBC script, of course.
	Oh, there you go.
	Of course it's the BBC script.
	Yeah, no, she is following the script.
	But it's the BBC script.
	The French are different.
	And, you know, with all this action over the Danish cartoons, you'd think these things would be picked up and spread all over the place, but they know it's not going to have any effect on the French.
	Well, I think what we really need to realize, if you look at the news, at least here in Gitmo Nation, United States proper...
	Is that there are no more protests.
	Everything is over.
	All is well.
	We are not interested in talking about the innocence of Muslim video because we now have the Mitt Romney video.
	So we're completely done.
	All is well.
	We're not even looking at Egypt or Libya or any of the 30 places we were looking at four days ago.
	It's just done.
	Have you noticed this?
	It's just over.
	No, because it's more important that Romney, talking to a group of, I guess, contributors, says, you know, 47% of the Americans are idiots that won't vote for me.
	And this is like, oh, why is this even talked about?
	What do you expect him to say?
	I think they had this ready to go.
	No, it's already been known.
	This was out over, somebody said three months ago, in March is when he made this speech.
	And it was apparently a Twitter sensation for a little while that died.
	It's just been revitalized for the purposes of the election.
	Everyone's all upset about it.
	I can't get upset about it.
	Whether I was for or against Romney, I don't see what the big deal is.
	What is the big deal?
	Explain it to me.
	The big deal is just because news media have been told, the ones who are running the commercials, who actually make the money from this entire tight race, this campaign, this presidential race, they've been told to make a big deal of it.
	It doesn't matter.
	It's like, if it's not Middleton's boobs, then it's this.
	We just need to make a big deal out of something.
	And I think it was well played.
	I mean, it's perfectly played because we had this foreign policy argument.
	And this is what really got me about this.
	Not only is this about...
	Spinning this into, oh, Romney's a...
	You know, he doesn't give a crap about half of America.
	But listen to Soledad O'Brien.
	And here's how she's taken this.
	To our starting point this morning, Mitt Romney calling President Obama supporters those people.
	Inferring racial.
	Those people.
	Inferring that, I don't know what, that they're black?
	I don't remember him saying those people that way.
	No, he didn't.
	That's the whole point.
	It's unbelievable how this is being spun.
	It's being turned into a complete racial thing, which is freaking me out.
	Well, this is in the Red Book.
	We've talked about they've been trying to turn this into a racial issue since the get-go to bring everything straight.
	They haven't been able to pull off the race riots.
	Ugh.
	Which they tried, but that didn't work out.
	What's his name?
	Hold on, I actually tweeted this.
	What's his name from...
	Who's that guy?
	I think it's...
	Isn't it...
	Yeah, from here.
	This was in the...
	The Daily Beast.
	Hold on a second.
	And he actually says, here's why Mitt's 100% wrong on the 47%.
	That's the whole article.
	But then at the bottom, he literally takes it to a racial point.
	So everyone's like dissecting what is the 47% and...
	Oh, crap.
	I wish I had it right handy here.
	Here we go.
	When you ask white Americans to estimate the black population of the United States, the answer averages out at nearly 30%.
	Ask them to estimate the Hispanic population, and the answer averages 22%.
	So this is how they come up with approximately 50%.
	So when a politician or a broadcaster talks about 47% independency, the image that swims into many white voters' minds is not their mother in Florida.
	Her social security, untaxed, receiving Medicare benefits, blah, blah, blah.
	It is basically black people and Hispanic people.
	And for this to be written like this, it's quite a stretch.
	I was like, wow.
	Wow, what is a guy, a mind repeater?
	Yeah, apparently.
	There's no evidence for this.
	This is not evidence-based reporting.
	This is just bull crap.
	Yeah, but it's inciting race, and we predicted this would happen, and here it is.
	Yeah, well, they're not getting as far as they'd like to.
	And here's my favorite clip.
	This is the BBC, of course, jumping on board.
	And the way they preface the whole Romney deal, and this is essentially just the preface, it just cracked me up because they take it to another extreme.
	Play the BBC report on Romney.
	Mitt Romney doesn't need headlines like this just 49 days before America votes.
	His latest problem, the left-leaning magazine Mother Jones, has published a secret video of a dinner with rich financial supporters.
	The Republican candidate suggests almost half of all Americans are scroungers who'd be bound to support Obama.
	Half of America and there's scroungers.
	That's great.
	I love the scrounger vibe.
	That's cool.
	Scroungers.
	Are you scroungers?
	Scroungers, I tell you.
	Scoundreling scroungers.
	Oh, wow.
	That's pretty good.
	That's pretty good.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	Well, Richard Branson was...
	I mean, we're kind of done on the Romney thing, right?
	I mean, it's...
	Let me look.
	I don't see...
	Yes, I hope so.
	Yeah.
	I got nothing else.
	That was just...
	And by the way, do you not get the idea that it's also possible that in light of our general thinking that no one wants to run the country for the next four years, that maybe...
	The Republican Party just put this video out just to throw in the towel and just like, alright, go ahead, you take it.
	We got Jeb Bush waiting for 2016.
	Go ahead and run this sucker for the next four years.
	This is what we've always said.
	Right.
	I think it's two years ago we called this.
	Yeah.
	And I think Obama's side, pretty much at least the smart money over there wants to do the same thing, but they can't quite back out as easy.
	Right.
	I mean, he's going to have to be caught with a 12-year-old or something just before the election to lose at this point.
	Well, who?
	Romney or Obama?
	Obama.
	No, Romney's lost.
	Romney is not even in the game anymore.
	He's done.
	I mean, this is just the icing on the cake.
	He was already done.
	But, well, wait a minute.
	Now, John, we still have, what, 45 days?
	I mean, this is just from a, you know, the Curry Dvorak Consulting Group, from a pure production standpoint, from a story arc standpoint, we cannot...
	We will lose out on viewership if we don't have more controversy in the next six weeks.
	We have to have something.
	So this cannot end now.
	It is too soon.
	We know what's going to happen because we've kind of deconstructed it early on and we have to assume the script is going to stay put.
	That doesn't mean that the powers that be that are actually some...
	There are still people in the Republican Party that would like Romney to win.
	They're not necessarily on board with this idea that he shouldn't win.
	And the same thing happens on the Obama side.
	I mean, let's face it, the Hillary camp does not want Obama to win because it's going to weaken her chances in 2016.
	So this activity is taking place on both sides of the election, pro and con on both sides.
	Yeah, there has to be a lot of good stuff.
	In fact, some of it will be pretty interesting.
	Yeah, we have to have something really, really awesome, though.
	We've got to have like a...
	Well, it's going to have...
	It's desperation time, so you have to assume they're going to be throwing Hail Marys left and right.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, cool.
	I'm looking forward to it.
	Cool.
	It's going to be great.
	I love this.
	This was weak.
	This was weak.
	And the fact that people like Soledad would get on it as some sort of an important thing, or anybody for that matter.
	And Fox are all over this.
	It's like they're trying to defend the guy.
	This is weak.
	It's weak.
	Who cares?
	Well, what I find funny is you see MSNBC, you literally see the hosts with glee.
	You know, like it's Christmas.
	They're so happy.
	And Al Sharpton, they're so happy.
	Even they must realize they can't be this happy for the next five, six weeks.
	We've got to have more.
	Otherwise, their show is over.
	We're all going to be watching something else.
	So I'm just waiting with bated breath, anticipating the next grooviness that will come along in this grand show.
	Yeah, no, I agree.
	There will be some good stuff, and every show we do will have something cool in it.
	Meanwhile, there is some real information slipping out.
	I think this was even on CNN. Now let's move to Cairo, where life is getting back to normal after days of anti-American protests.
	It's getting back to normal because we have a Romney video, so no worries, there's no protests here.
	It turns out not all of those protesters were there because of their anger with the U.S. and that anti-Muslim YouTube video.
	Many, it turns out, were being paid to protest.
	That news comes from Egypt's Prime Minister.
	Paying people to protest is fairly common in Egypt.
	Oh, really?
	Gee, CNN? That's news?
	It's fairly common, just so you know.
	This is very, very, very common, this.
	My goodness.
	You told me something new there.
	Yeah, exactly.
	So, let's see.
	I have the clip of the week, by the way, but I'm not going to play it yet.
	Well, alright.
	But I do have the idiotic clip of the...
	If we want to change subjects, I've got a good segue clip.
	Okay, alright.
	Which is the idiotic clip of the day.
	Are you ready?
	Yeah.
	What kind of message does that send to our child?
	I don't want our kid to feel that.
	To see him or her get hurt like that, that would just kill me.
	As a parent, you're supposed to protect your child.
	You tell them not to play in the street and don't do drugs and wear a thick shea butter moisturizer at night.
	But how are we supposed to protect our baby from hate?
	Wait a minute.
	Shea butter moisturizer?
	Who slipped that in?
	That's from the new normal you wanted me to watch.
	Oh, please, no.
	I'm going to show my support by donating to No Agenda.
	Imagine all the people who could do that.
	Oh, yeah, that'd be fab.
	Yeah, on No Agenda.
	It's the new normal!
	Well, the new norm was a little low for us, I might add.
	Yeah, I noticed that too.
	James Penn, Jameson Penn in Brambleton, Virginia, though, came in with $106 value for value.
	Why?
	Because around episode 339, I got sick of the bull crap and walked away from my lucrative federal consulting gig.
	Whoa.
	My family's barely been getting by.
	You should have stayed there.
	Yeah.
	And then reported in.
	My family's been barely getting by since.
	Well, I have waited tables, hoping to find a job that isn't evil and pays the mortgage.
	Finally, I did.
	And you're getting a cut.
	Dollar for every episode of my underemployment, $106.
	106 episodes, really?
	If you can't, trains good, planes bad, see something, say something, karma for my brother Gary.
	All aboard trains good, planes bad.
	If you see something, say something.
	You've got karma.
	All right, Brother Gary.
	There you go.
	You nailed it.
	I didn't think you'd have any of those clips.
	Those are so old.
	Those are so old.
	I don't know where Caputati Ching Ching went.
	It's a mystery.
	Tertius Carstens in South Africa, $100.
	Oh, here's a...
	Yeah, right.
	He met me at the Twit Brickhouse.
	In fact, there were two...
	Curiously, and they didn't travel together, there were two South Africans.
	Oh.
	At the show, and one of them gave me a 100 Insta donation, which is nutritious, and the other one gave me a bottle of an unusual wine from South Africa, which I'm letting sit and settle in, so I'll probably drink it in about a week or two.
	You have wines when they travel.
	I actually saw that.
	He gave you a Rothschild from South Africa, and you were like, wow, I didn't know they opened in South.
	I saw this whole conversation take place.
	Oh, okay.
	Well, yeah, I was actually stunned because I didn't know the Barron.
	This is the Lafitte side of the family.
	I had no idea that they had done a joint venture in South Africa to make wine.
	Hmm.
	And so I'm going to be very interested to see how this comes out.
	I mean, these deals are all over Chile, Argentina, Australia, South Africa, I suppose now, and the French are also in California, and they make all these deals, and some of the wines are good, some of them are just like, they try too hard.
	Anyway, tell us what the real pronunciation of this name is, if it was Dutch.
	That would be...
	Tertius Karstens.
	Tertius.
	Tertius Karstens.
	And what does he want in here?
	He wants to...
	I should just print it.
	In the ochtend.
	I'm looking for a dedouching Chinese-Japanese in the morning that an Afrikaans won from Adam in the ochtend.
	Lone wolf, my puppy, no karma, please.
	No karma, this one's a bunch of sound effects.
	Yeah, alright, here we go.
	You've been de-douche.
	In the ochtend!
	And Lone Wolf first place.
	We'll do that for a $100 donation.
	Anyways, so it was weird that there were two South Africans there.
	And I guess, you know, it's probably cheaper to be here.
	I don't know.
	As far as I know, the Rand is not trading at a good rate.
	Amy Pettigrew in Huntsville, Alabama, $100.
	Need a happy birthday shout-out to my birthday karma for my wonderful and birthday karma for my wonderful husband, Michael, on his 26.
	He doesn't care much for gifts, but we all know that a No Agenda show donation is the gift that keeps on giving.
	Also, I'd like to shut up slave karma for my brother Matt as he serves his time in the re-education camp known as undergrad.
	Lastly, can I get some science karma for my lab mate Kirby?
	Hey, wait a minute.
	How many things do we want here?
	Well, she gets the one karma for everybody.
	All right.
	And then a shut up slave and a science?
	Is that what we're looking for?
	I don't see the science.
	Yeah, science.
	Science karma.
	All right.
	Shut up slave.
	Science!
	You've got karma.
	There you go.
	She's probably getting the formula, and she's Amy.
	We need all the women viewers or listeners we can get.
	And especially in Huntsville, Alabama.
	That must be very interesting to listen to the show there.
	Jesse Mansfield.
	When did they go to the University of Alabama?
	Jesse Mansfield, Austin, Texas.
	Ah!
	Hello!
	Been a fan since day one.
	Followed Dvorak from Twit when I was 16.
	I've been dreaming of the day I could donate.
	Please mention our podcast, Texganic.
	We're a couple of douchebags trying to start a business in Austin, and y'all's show has been a big influence on what we're doing.
	I actually listen to their show.
	They sent me a note.
	Texganic.podbean.com?
	Yeah.
	What is it?
	It's kind of like a little mini Adam and John.
	No, 77.77.
	Yeah, it's very nice, actually.
	Very nice.
	Yeah, well, that's good.
	We are influential.
	Yes.
	Chris Ball, 7126, in the morning doing my fair share in an effort to keep the show from just getting by.
	Last couple of episodes have been awesome!
	Thanks for all the hard work and great clips.
	And he says he used the PayPal mobile app, which worked.
	Yeah.
	All right, here we go.
	Ready?
	Ready?
	Oh, yeah.
	Hold on a second.
	No, I wasn't ready.
	You're never ready.
	Well, you know, listen, normally I have five screens.
	I've got all kinds of...
	No, no, no, I know, but I mean, with this, you're looking at the numbers and you know it.
	Actually, I'm not looking at the number.
	I'm looking at the jingles.
	I'm trying to figure out what stupid combos people want.
	Yeah, I'm doing other things here.
	All right.
	Carrie...
	Really?
	C-H-H-I-M? Uh, Chim?
	I guess so.
	Yeah, Kerry Chim.
	Or Kerry Ch-Ch-Chim.
	Ch-Ch-Chim.
	Hamilton, Ohio.
	69-69.
	Just want some karma.
	Alright, we got some of that for you right here.
	You've got karma.
	But that's not it.
	Sloan Kelly in Niagara Falls, Ontario.
	6969.
	Been listening to the show for about a month and it's really one of the best podcasts.
	It is the best podcasts in the universe.
	I love listening to No Agenda during my commute in the morning.
	Can I get two shots to the head and a shut up slave for not contributing sooner?
	Please keep up the awesome work.
	Shut up slave!
	Yeah.
	You didn't want a karma shot?
	I did not hear the request.
	I just heard two shots to the head and a shut-up slave.
	Okay, so what do you got?
	A major loser.
	Major loser.
	Major loser with a U. So it's major loser.
	Yeah, major loser.
	Tinley Park, Illinois, 69-69.
	Jeez.
	Well, at least we didn't fall off.
	I thought we were going to not get a 69 this time.
	It would be ending the streak.
	Like a de-douching in a karma shot.
	Oh, sorry.
	Sorry, you didn't hear that.
	You've been de-douched.
	You've got karma.
	Axe-douche.
	Axe-douche.
	Roll SK in Saskatoon, the Paris of Canada, Saskatchewan.
	69-69.
	In the morning, John and Adam, it's me, Roll SK, from the chat, donating once again.
	John, you are three for ten on pronouncing my name correctly.
	Mike Nikolachuk.
	I'm not even getting involved anymore.
	Okay.
	You had a good run of two in a row, then you ruined it by mispronouncing it in my last donation.
	I sent you that very donation as a reward for the correct pronunciation, but you screwed it up.
	Fear not, all is forgiven.
	John, please enjoy the uranium ore, I said.
	Is it radioactive?
	Did you get it?
	Did you receive it?
	Adam sends his sexy, fun-time karma for future adventures in such matters.
	Keep up the good work, guys.
	I'm going to get his name down, so it's the next time I get a donation.
	It's Nikolai Chuck.
	Nikolai Chuck.
	There you go.
	You've got karma.
	Nikolai Chuck.
	It's not that hard.
	Christian A... Soldner in Holzhausen.
	69-69.
	Geez.
	Adam and I, John and Adam, first donation supporting the greatest podcast in the universe.
	I'm asking for job karma for my hot milf Catherine.
	You didn't send your line.
	Send pictures.
	Yeah.
	Send pictures.
	You even paused for me.
	I realize.
	Send pictures.
	Yes.
	See, I applied for a new job and we are awaiting an answer.
	Please keep up the good show.
	Let's see how you butcher my name.
	Greetings from Munich, Deutschland.
	Chris.
	And that closes our 69...
	Well, hold on, hold on, hold on.
	First we've got to give him some karma.
	Oh, whatever.
	You've got karma.
	And then we can close it out.
	69!
	69, dudes!
	Yeah!
	Oh, there you go.
	Closed.
	And by the way, that's one, two, three, four, six.
	Six of them.
	Oh, five.
	Sorry, five.
	I think the most we've ever had is seven.
	Jeff Lorig in Creighton, Nebraska, 6611.
	Another donation to get John to pronounce my name correctly.
	I've donated twice now, and both times John has pronounced my name as Long, but it's actually Lorig.
	What?
	Oh, that's because on the spreadsheet, and I'm a mile away from it, it looked like long.
	And I think that wasn't me mispronouncing it, it was me misreading it.
	No worries, you're still the best podcasting universe.
	Got to get a John blowing his nose loudly with a side of rain stick from my drought-stricken state of Nebraska.
	We can't do either one of those.
	I wish I had the rain stick, but I promise you, we'll be flying home tomorrow.
	I will do a double six on the sticks for you and roll out the rain stick.
	You know, I've been doing this rain stick thing on the show.
	It's been raining in Austin for a week.
	I think the rain stick has to be in the proximity where you want it to rain.
	It doesn't seem...
	Yeah.
	It's really raining there?
	Oh, yeah.
	It's been raining for a week.
	No kidding.
	We're going to give some karma to Jeff here in lieu of the rain stick, and hopefully that'll help.
	You've got karma.
	Royce Kukami in Aiea.
	Aiea.
	Aiea.
	Hawaii.
	Hawaii.
	6464.
	Appreciate a douchebag call out to Cody.
	Oh, Cody!
	Douchebag!
	For his unprofessionalism and a shout at karma to Palom, Kelly F., Chris, Jason, Andrew, and the Mega64 crew.
	Deeply appreciate the fine work you fellas do, you put out, and take care.
	Royce.
	You've got karma.
	John Bulsiewicz.
	Bulsiewicz.
	B-U-L-S-Z-E-W-I-E-Z in Warren, Michigan.
	60.
	Used to pay for another podcast, but it had some changes, and now it sucks.
	I wonder which one that was.
	Unlike No Agenda, which in my opinion is the best podcast in the universe, I'm giving the money I would have given to them and giving it to No Agenda.
	Can I please have some karma for a loan modification for my mortgage and karma for a relationship?
	I'm tired of the America Just Getting By scheme.
	Thank you.
	You've got karma.
	Well that is how it's supposed to work.
	I mean that is the basic concept is value for value and if you don't see the value somewhere else and you bring it here and you know as long as we don't suck although today's program I think is so far below par on the quality.
	Because of the audio quality.
	Yeah the quality.
	No I mean the content is always the best podcast in the universe.
	Oh yeah that goes without saying.
	In fact I have proof.
	You do?
	Yeah.
	Somewhere.
	Timing!
	Yeah, keep going.
	Joe the Dish Slaves, Joe Esposito in Stockton, California.
	Home of the repossessed homes.
	60.
	Hey guys, I had to donate toward my wife's damehood after I mentioned Monsanto at work and no one had heard of it.
	What?
	Can't put a price on being informed.
	Oh my goodness.
	The best podcast in the universe!
	Which is also what Greg Steerly in Santa Monica, California at 5555 says.
	Best podcast in the universe.
	Anonymous in Livermore, California.
	Double nickels on the dime.
	Hey John and Adam, I'd like to keep my name anonymous.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	So I'm not resigned to a fate similar to that of Gary Webb.
	I researched at a four-letter government agency around the corner from John and Moffat Field, which would be NASA, working on Adam's favorite project, NextGen.
	I'm donating because I would like a Hey Citizen Karma for my PhD qualifying exams in applied math and statistics that are coming up this week.
	If everything goes well, you guys should look forward to a nice stream of future donations from Dr.
	Anonymous.
	If everything doesn't go well, I would recommend Adam keeping his eyes peeled as my area of expertise is in the control of SWAT. This is quite frightening because what he's referring to here is drone swarms.
	Luckily he's up there near you, Moffat Field, which is conveniently located to Google, I believe.
	Yeah.
	It's all just a big coincidence that those are all so near to each other and all linked.
	And send me some information, dude, about your next gen and we'll keep you on the QT. And here's your karma as requested.
	You've got karma.
	Keep up the good work exposing the media for the joke that it is.
	Thank you.
	Preston Taylor in Sonoma, 5130.
	One word comment?
	Drunk.
	Greg Stone in Rapid City, South Dakota, 5130.
	5130 is our number that celebrates our fifth anniversary.
	Best podcast in the universe.
	Also, a little comment from my still-stolen bike.
	No need to read.
	If I hear jingling bike, I'll know.
	Keeping the donation segment pithy.
	Bike!
	You've got karma.
	Bike!
	Mark Borghese in Las Vegas, Lost Wages, Nevada, 5130.
	For my smoking hot wife, can I get a MILF in the morning?
	MILF! That's one mother I'd like to.
	In the morning!
	Hey, I like that connection.
	I'm sorry?
	I'd like that little combo there.
	That's one more that I'd like to be-do-be-do in the morning.
	I like that.
	Oh, yeah.
	That's good.
	Yeah, it's good.
	It works.
	Good catch, Mark.
	Jonathan Plan in McKeesport, Pennsylvania, 5130 without comment.
	Robert Goschko.
	Sir Robert Goschko to you.
	Also 5130 in Sherwood Park, Alberta, the home of the money.
	I've been a listener since episode one, and I can support the value for, well, since you're a knight, I'm sure, you know, it's not like we haven't heard...
	I like to support the value for value model.
	Keep hitting them in the mouth.
	Can I get a one hot MILF karma shot?
	Mm-hmm.
	That's one hot MILF, baby.
	You've got karma.
	Sir Jason Schrader, Greensboro, North Carolina, 5130.
	Without comment, Kyle Bauer, or Bauer, it's got to be Bauer, or Worcester, Ohio, 50.
	And finally, Jason Fortune in Geneva, Illinois, 50.
	And that closes out our donation segment.
	Hold on, I do...
	I do have a couple things we still have to mention before we close it out completely, John.
	I got a note from Christine Norman.
	You remember she donated on Sunday.
	Actually, she says, I donated last Thursday asking for Visa Karma, and six work days later, it worked.
	My H-1B was approved.
	Karma really does work.
	I love it.
	Interesting.
	Well, we also need...
	One of our knights has requested some offbeat karma.
	Sir Andrew Gardner.
	Yeah, he's not just our knight.
	He's the No Agenda Racing Team.
	Yes.
	And did you see his crash?
	No, I didn't.
	Yeah, he has a camera on his bike, and he wiped out, and so I think he does have one more race to run, so we're going to give him a little extra special karma there, if my system would...
	Oh, Jesus Christ.
	He wants a no agenda racing karma and two to the head.
	No agenda racing karma and two to the head.
	You've got karma.
	And we had Rick, Sir Rick Fowler, who sent us, was he the 12-12 Knight?
	And he had no note, and subsequently he wanted to be known from this day forth as Sir Beer Geek, and he would like a...
	It was just like a little girl's shut-up slave, I think, is what he was asking for, which I have somewhere here.
	Is there something else he wanted, John, or was that it?
	Well, I think it was a karma on top of that, wasn't it?
	Well, we'll give him that just to make sure.
	Shut up, slave!
	You've got karma.
	And...
	Yeah, I think...
	Was that it?
	Yeah, I think that's it.
	We have...
	Just wanted to thank our artist, which I forgot to do at the top of the show, for the last episode's artwork.
	That was equals sign D equals sign.
	Ha!
	You can always check out all of the artwork at No Agenda.
	I don't know who that is.
	I like to get a mailing list of our artists, but they're all like these anonymous characters.
	Equal sign D equal sign.
	I actually like that piece a lot.
	And that was in Evergreen, wasn't it, that we chose?
	Yeah, it was in the Evergreen back.
	By the way, people can drive.
	If you have something that's not really about today's show and you want to just drop it in the Evergreen pile, we do go through it.
	That was on page four for the digging.
	Yeah.
	No, it's important.
	Because sometimes, even though the art is pretty much always great, it just doesn't really fit with the show, or maybe it's just...
	And we're fickle.
	Yeah, we are.
	Well, we are the best podcast in the universe.
	Our directors are the same way.
	Yeah, we can't be messing around.
	This is a professional outfit we're running here.
	And thank you, Peter Muir, for...
	Re-registering thebestpodcastintheuniverse.com and keeping that pointing to noagendashow.com.
	He actually sent me an email and said, hey man, do you want this?
	I said, you know, I think we should keep that one.
	It's kind of like our award, right?
	Thebestpodcastintheuniverse.com.
	It can only point.
	Can you imagine someone else registering that and pointing it to their site?
	Can you imagine the drama?
	It would be a catastrophe.
	Yeah.
	so keep supporting us please so we can continue to do stuff on the road to borac.org slash na it's your birthday birthday birthday Happy birthday, Guy Boazi, our buddy there in Israel.
	He congratulates himself.
	He will be celebrating on Saturday, the 22nd.
	And Amy Pettigrew says happy birthday to her husband with a gift that keeps on giving.
	He turns 22.
	Happy birthday from all your buddies here at the No Agenda Show!
	Happy birthday, yeah!
	Okay, and then we have, wow, we have one, two, three, actually it's, now is Carrie, let me make sure Carrie is female, correct?
	Is she going to be a date?
	Or is it Carrie, go back to your spreadsheet, John, do you still have it open?
	I do.
	Check out Carrie.
	I just want to make sure that I'm knighting Carrie appropriately.
	Is Carrie...
	See, it doesn't say.
	I don't know if Kerry's K-E-R-R-Y. Wouldn't that be a Dane?
	That's generally a...
	K-E-R-R-Y is generally a male name.
	Really?
	Yeah, K-E-R-Y, K-A-R-I, K-E-R-I... Okay, so I guess it's three nights.
	Eric, Jesse, and Kerry.
	If that's a problem, then we will make the correction later, but I'm guessing it's a...
	Yeah, it's a guy.
	I would bet money on it.
	Alright, well, you can grab your money and your sword, please.
	You got it?
	I can't do both.
	Alright, Eric Wilka, Jesse Wilson, and Carrie Chim, please step forward as you all three have donated to the best podcast in the universe.
	The amount of $1,000 or more, we could not be more proud to invite you into our very exclusive club.
	It is the Knights of the Noagent Roundtable, so I hereby pronounce the...
	Sir Eric, Sir Jesse, and Sir Kerry, come on, you hookers and boos, your wenches and beer, your rent boys and chardonnay, and wasn't it cigars and scotch, I think I remember?
	That's all here for you at the round table, and thank you again for supporting us.
	It is highly appreciated.
	It's what keeps us motivated to keep doing this stuff from the craziest places on earth, which is what we do.
	So you've been rolling out lots of the clips today, John.
	I have a couple of my own that I think might be interesting to run through.
	Let me see what I've got here.
	First of all, something that's kind of gone a little bit, you know, been snowed under by all the really important news of Kate's boobs and Romney's secret video is the Inspector General of the Department of Justice in the United States came back with their report on Fast and Furious.
	And you've barely seen any news on this as far as I know.
	I caught one report on CNN. Wolf, it's the closest thing so far, I would say, to a definitive account of the investigation that everybody agrees was a terrible idea, allowing firearms to slip south of the border to try to catch the cartels that were doing the gunrunning in Mexico.
	The Justice Department's Inspector General said Operation Fast and Furious involved a series of misguided strategies, tactics, Errors in judgment and management failures that permeated ATF headquarters all the way to the Justice Department and a near total disregard for public safety.
	congressional investigators had suggested there'd been a cover-up in the justice department but the report said federal officials actually ignored red flags, failed to ask questions, failed to send information up the chain of command.
	The report referred 14 people for possible disciplinary action but it did not recommend anyone for criminal prosecution and almost within the hour that the report was released two of the highest ranking individuals whose names came up in the report were out.
	I love this by the way.
	This is such a great way to do it.
	It's like, if you're responsible for the death of hundreds of Mexican citizens and at least one United States Border Patrol agent, just resign.
	Or retire.
	There's no distance.
	You're not going to get in any trouble if you work in the government.
	You get to retire with full benefits.
	Yeah, just retire and you're all good to go.
	Former Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms Director Kenneth Nelson announced his retirement and Jason Weinstein, who was the Deputy Assistant Attorney General in the Criminal Division, turned in his resignation.
	It was accepted by Attorney General Eric Holder.
	Now listen to what Holder did.
	Listen to Holder's statement.
	Holder also put out a statement of his own, saying in part, Unfortunate that some were so quick to make baseless accusations before they possessed the facts about these operations, accusations that turned out to be without foundation and have caused a great deal of unnecessary harm and confusion.
	He says he hopes today's report acts as a reminder of the dangers of adopting as fact unsubstantiated conclusions.
	So one guy retires, one guy quits, and then Holder says, nothing happened here.
	Nothing was true.
	Nothing to see here.
	Yeah, I think we have that jingle somewhere.
	But I was just like, wow!
	I mean, how does he even come up with that?
	What gall?
	It's amazing, isn't it?
	In the morning.
	Look over here.
	Nothing to see here.
	Look.
	And so, of course, I guess nothing else is going to happen.
	That's it.
	It's done.
	The report is in, and I don't even see what they could do.
	I know, and Holder's still being held in contempt, but they're not going to do crap about that either.
	This group is the worst.
	This is like a joke.
	I have to say that the CBC up there in Canada, they're doing a great job on reporting.
	Quick report here on the...
	The 18-year-old kid who was charged with trying to set off a weapon of mass destruction, which we used to call a bomb.
	Now it's a weapon of mass destruction.
	Associative.
	I love how the CBC reports on how stupid we are down here.
	Turning to the United States now, where authorities have charged an 18-year-old from Chicago with attempting to use a weapon of mass destruction.
	They say he wrote about jihad and killing Americans, and that he planned to detonate a car bomb.
	Neil McDonald joins us now from Washington with what we know about the operation to nab the team.
	Neil.
	Well, what we know, Wendy, now is that this was all concocted by the FBI. It's not the first time this has happened.
	They find someone on the Internet, in this case this man, Adel Daoud, talking about being a jihadist.
	They contact him with what they call operational terrorists, that is to say FBI agents.
	They provide him, they dream up a plot.
	They provide him with the means to do it.
	They offer to get him involved in detonating a device.
	They even gave him a fake bomb.
	And then when he went to detonate it, of course, they arrested him.
	As I say, this has happened before on several occasions.
	Interestingly enough, on the attacks, the real attacks, the underwear bomber, for example, on Christmas Day a few years ago, and the Times Square bomber, those were detected by alert citizens and not the authorities.
	But the authorities remain vigilant.
	And if you talk about doing it down here and you talk the talk, then they'll walk your walk.
	I'm impressed.
	I'm really impressed by this reporting.
	Good for them.
	I'm glad somebody in the world is noting that...
	Yeah, literally just comes out and says, the FBI just makes it up, and they take some stoner kid, and then...
	Some idiot.
	Is this guy stupid enough to fall for this bill?
	Yeah, I think he is.
	Well, then let's do it.
	We got nothing else to do.
	Wait a minute.
	Let's go to lunch first, and then we'll run the scheme on him this afternoon.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	Well, this is...
	End of the Dvorak playhouse.
	Yeah.
	Very good.
	Very good, John.
	Liked it very much.
	Now, I was talking to one of our producers who will have to go unnamed, and he was telling me that now for every 100 FBI agents, they have a lawyer.
	And the lawyer's job is basically to make sure that these operational terrorists, as you just heard them called, that they're following all the right rules to set these kids up.
	And this is really all that they can do.
	They can't do any more regular investigating.
	Because there's too much paperwork, and apparently the bigger the FBI gets, that's the irony, is that there's just more bureaucracy, and so if they want to go and do any real investigation...
	And find a real terrorist.
	Yeah, if they want to go do some real investigative work, there's too much paperwork, so it's easier for them just to find a guy and build the case around him.
	And that's the irony of a bigger government, is that the actual criminals get away with stuff.
	Which is, I don't know, it's perverse, but there you go.
	Yeah, well, welcome to the 21st century.
	A couple of memes that we've been tracking.
	You know, we've been tracking this whole fact-check thing, and everything is fact-checked, and this is not just a meme in America.
	It's going on around the world, and I see it in Dutch politics, and we have fact-check, fact-check, fact-check.
	It was a fact, this is a fact, this is a fact, we're checking the facts!
	And Soledad...
	Well, I think CNN should promote her.
	I think she's the only person on CNN who, whether she's right or wrong, is irrelevant.
	She's putting on an interesting show.
	And I was pretty much done with CNN, but now she has this morning show.
	Have you seen this show in the morning where she's...
	I think I saw it when it first started.
	I haven't been watching, but I should mention Soledad's an interesting person.
	Yeah, we both know her.
	We know Soledad.
	We both work with her.
	She began at NBC, actually MSNBC before it turned into what it is today.
	MSNBC was kind of a variety network, and then it became the 24-7 Princess Diana's network.
	Remember those good old days?
	And then they changed to...
	And then they...
	Olbermann and these guys came aboard.
	But Soledad was put on the fast track.
	She was an anchor host on MSNBC early on.
	She was put on the fast track to become one of the head people on NBC network, along with Brian Williams, who was also in that same track.
	And somewhere along the line, somebody didn't like her or somebody tested better because she was part of the multi-culti look, which broadcasters are just looking for, like nobody's business.
	Right.
	Which is a certain kind of...
	Is she Italian?
	Is she black?
	Mexican?
	I don't know.
	I think she is black, though, isn't she?
	No, I don't think so.
	No, she thinks she's Italian?
	Really?
	I think she's Hispanic, I think.
	Really?
	But again, that's the look.
	It is the perfect look.
	It is the look.
	I totally agree.
	Natalie Del Conte, who is now Natalie Morris.
	Morris.
	She has an incredible...
	I mean, you have no idea.
	I mean, she said so herself.
	She says she can go anywhere in the world and they think she's a local.
	Yeah, well, you know, I would like to remind people that John was the one who scouted her, and I then recruited her for Mevio, and we taught her.
	We taught her how to talk.
	We taught her how to walk.
	We taught her how to dress, and then she took all that, and then she screwed us, and then quit.
	That's pretty much it.
	That's our...
	That is show business in a nutshell.
	We put all the effort in, and then she got really popular, and then she screwed us, basically.
	Just stabbed us in the back and said, hey, I've got a bit of you to go over here.
	Which is exactly the way you have to assume that happens.
	I always tell people, I'll give you a little coaching on this and then I expect you to stab me in the back.
	Welcome to the business.
	Anyway, so let me get back to Soledad for a second.
	So she has this show in the morning and she does something very interesting.
	You can just wait for it to happen.
	Every single guest...
	And it's so funny, these guests fall for it every single time.
	She's going to set them up, and then she'll whip out a paper and say, well, I have the proof right here.
	I've been reading the actual document, which is kind of what we do.
	We read the legislation, we read the documents, and say, well, this is not exactly what the document says.
	So she has Peter King on.
	And I think what a lot of these politicians think, oh, it's the breakfast show.
	You know, they've got a round table.
	It's going to be a walk in the park.
	It's going to be really easy.
	And she has Peter King on.
	I'm sure he's Republican.
	Yeah, he's a guy from New York who keeps having these hearings on Muslims in the media.
	Right, right, right.
	You know, he's kind of the foil to the...
	All the Muslims.
	He's kind of a douche.
	He's a total douche.
	And she rolls out the fact check thing on him regarding President Obama's Middle Eastern tour where, and this is very much a Republican talking point, is that he went on his apology tour.
	And I, of course, I went and read the transcript of the speech That President Obama gave in Egypt, and it is very much a mea culpa without saying it, but it's kind of like, hey, you know, he could have done better, and, you know, it's kind of, I understand where the talking point is coming from, but the way Soledad brings this, and Peter King's reaction to it, it was just television history in my book.
	It's in that speech, as you know, which I have the speech right here, so that was, he never once used the word, apology.
	Right.
	He never once said, I'm sorry.
	This, of course, is the travesty.
	Is she saying...
	He doesn't use the word, I'm sorry, in the transcript.
	Well, there's many ways to say you're sorry or apologize.
	But, okay, so she keeps hammering this out.
	The logical...
	Any logical reading of that speech, or the speech he gave in France, where he basically said that the United States can be too aggressive, talking to the French...
	That was on April 3rd in 2009.
	Right, but that's not...
	Apology.
	I do consider it.
	We're apologizing for opposition.
	We have nothing to apologize to the Muslim world at all.
	We have not sacrificed our ideals.
	He was overseas criticizing American officials and the CIA and others when he says that we lost our ideals.
	these are the people who kept us safe for eight nine years against islamic everyone keeps talking about this apology tour and apologies from the president and i'm trying to find the words i'm sorry i apologize in any of those speeches which i have the text of all those speeches in front of me none of that so i think this is pretty funny or is it she It's so childish that it's funny.
	I'm sorry.
	There's no apology in here.
	And then she pulls out the final sword.
	Those speeches are not at all.
	And if you go to factcheck.org, which we check in a lot, they'll say the same thing.
	They factcheck this, and they say this whole theory of apology.
	I don't care what factcheck is.
	Well, okay, there are...
	I don't care what fact checks in.
	I don't care what fact checks in.
	Okay, the back story on this, of course, is the Republican meme that began in 2008 where they say that Obama's constantly apologizing for the United States' policies.
	And what he does is he never says, of course he doesn't say, oh, I'm so sorry.
	No, what he does is he downplays some of the policies and says, you know, we could have done better.
	This is not the way to do it.
	I mean, there's a lot of ways to say, to apologize, and you can interpret them in different ways, too.
	But it seems that for some reason it really gets the goat of some of the liberals out there.
	And obviously, Soledad is like signed on Obamabot.
	You think?
	No.
	doubt about it yeah really she is like just hurt by this whole thing because the words that how can you be making an apology when you never say I'm sorry I mean it's not an apology and she's she's hung up on it she's got this douche bag in front of her and he's just gonna argue with her you watch this yeah and and but then the thing is the fact check is This is all, well, we check, fact check.
	You know, people, when you say the word fact...
	Why don't you say we've gone to Snopes?
	No, exactly.
	Well, this is exactly what I'm saying.
	The minute you say factcheck.org or politifact.org, then all of a sudden, in people's brains, I've watched this happen, people say, well, yeah, then it's got to be true.
	Because there's fact in the net.
	In fact, we should be called FactNoAgenda.com.
	If we call ourselves the Fact No Agenda show, people will believe us that much more.
	There is something going on with this whole fact-check meme that has people, oh, well, you know, fact-check, well, fact-check, it was fact-checked.
	Well, the word, you have to remember that, about over a year ago, in fact, Buzzkill Jr.
	pointed this out once, he says there was, amongst the millennials, there was a kind of a linguistic usage where you'd say something to somebody and then at the end of the sentence you'd say the word fact.
	Right.
	Right.
	So, you know, yeah, I went to the ballgame and the police beat up a person.
	Fact!
	Well, this is very much, and I think we've discussed this on the show before, in Silicon Valley, this is without fail, and I watched some of the Disrupt Conference, and Zuck, I'm sorry, Zuck does it.
	Zuck, Zuck, Zuck, Zuck.
	And here's how it goes.
	Well, you know, when we're doing a streaming, of course, we have a much greater share of the audience, right?
	Right.
	And it's by adding that word right at the end.
	And they all do it, right?
	And it's the question mark.
	And all I want is just for once for someone to go, no, I don't think you're right.
	I don't see how that's right.
	Or why do you think it's right?
	And that is the same thing as saying facts, right?
	Right?
	Yeah, exactly.
	And how often have you heard them say this?
	It's annoying, right?
	It's very annoying, right?
	So noagendafactright.com.
	Maybe we need that.
	All right.
	On to my favorite new meme.
	This is the green on blue attacks, which now has a new name, and we've got to track this.
	The old name wasn't working.
	No, the old name wasn't working, so we've now changed it to something else.
	Thank you, Alex.
	It is a very disturbing trend and it's been the deadliest year for insider attacks.
	51 NATO coalition members have died this year alone from these insider attacks.
	That's up from 35 in all of 2011.
	And before that, in 2007 and 2008, there was a grand total of four coalition soldiers who died from these insider attacks.
	This one today occurred in Zabul province in southern Afghanistan.
	And it seems from local officials that they may have been duped by the police.
	The police were at a security checkpoint, according to one Afghan official.
	They said that they were under attack and called for help from these American service members when they came.
	Some, at least one, turned his weapon on the American service members and killed four of them, wounding at least two others.
	According to the Taliban, of course, they're taking the claim of responsibility for the attack.
	They say it's to avenge this anti-Islamic movie that has caused outrage in the Muslim world, but they will always try to claim responsibility for any NATO coalition deaths in the country.
	We should also mention two other NATO service members were killed yesterday in Helmand province.
	They were British soldiers by the same kind of insider attack.
	Tell this woman to drink less coffee, for God's sake.
	She was trying to rush a bit there, wasn't she?
	Trying to get everything into her report.
	Yeah, the insider attacks.
	Someone on the chatroom is saying, what is the chatroom here saying?
	Green on blue attacks, Joyce Riley's line, will you ever give credit?
	What the hell does that mean?
	I don't know what that is.
	Anyway, so it's not green on blue anymore.
	It's insider attacks.
	And I'm not sure why it's been...
	Well, besides the fact that green on blue wasn't catching on.
	But insider attacks, I think it's going to be used for something else.
	There's a reason for this.
	There's a reason.
	And on CNN, they got one of these insiders, and they interviewed him.
	He has a term, green on blue.
	They use that when a supposed ally, a friend of NATO forces, for some reason kills the troops training him.
	You're about to see and hear the voice of a man who says he killed Americans.
	He says he went on patrol with U.S. troops, took his gun, and shot them.
	So they interviewed this guy.
	And they didn't turn him over to authorities?
	Really?
	Yeah.
	That's ridiculous.
	Yeah, you want to hear the reports?
	Like 40, 40 seconds.
	Yeah, I want to hear this.
	Even though I believe this is probably bull crap.
	Of course it's bull crap.
	Ask him simply why he did it.
	Why'd you do it?
	...in a Taliban-controlled village is a man who claims to be responsible for a green-on-blue attack.
	With his face covered to hide his identity, he pulls out his police uniform, something he hasn't worn since the attack on the 2nd of October 2009.
	On patrol with US forces in Wadak province in central Afghanistan, this father of two says he waited for an opportunity to launch his premeditated attack.
	The Americans went inside the nearby school for a break, he explains.
	They took off their body armor and put their weapons down.
	At that moment, I thought it was the right time, so I took my gun and shot them.
	See, I don't, I don't, first of all, I don't believe this.
	I've been in Iraq, not Afghanistan, but you are not taking your body armor off anywhere, especially not if you're not inside the camp.
	Yeah, and it's also inconvenient.
	It's not very convenient.
	I'm trying to understand.
	I think it's very obvious.
	People are like, you're in my country, get the F out.
	So I understand why this is happening, but it's weird.
	This has got to be used for something.
	They keep amping it up.
	We've got a better slogan now, Insider Attacks.
	We're going to know what this is about sooner than later, but right now it's a mystery why this continues to happen, why they allow it to happen, and why this reporting continues the way it has.
	It's in the red book.
	Yeah, good.
	I got a couple of things a little different.
	Actually, I've got some really discrepant clips here, but let's get the one here that's a little lighter.
	This one will be interesting to you.
	Play Yosemite 1.
	Oh, let me guess.
	It's about my favorite camp.
	Yosemite has become an international treasure with nearly 4 million visitors annually, 20% of them international tourists.
	We saw a black bear, but no mice.
	But this summer, mice posed the greatest risk.
	After an outbreak of rare rodent-borne disease, Hantavirus left three people dead, five sickened, and nearly 29,000 others at risk of exposure, according to the National Park Service.
	We have protected God.
	This is believed to be the site of most of the infections.
	Curry Village and its cluster of 504 tent cabins in Yosemite's Lower Valley.
	Hey, wait a minute.
	I thought it was rats and not mice.
	No, no, it's mice.
	It's mice?
	Okay.
	Curry Village!
	Curry Village!
	Yeah, I know!
	It used to be in my family until some bonehead sold it for some trinkets.
	It's not anymore.
	Apparently nobody gives a crap.
	It's mostly international tourists, and they had these Germans and all these people.
	And I just thought this was kind of interesting, Yosemite clip too.
	Warnings prominently posted throughout the park.
	Park traffic and tourism remains robust.
	Did you know that there was a virus here before you came to Yosemite?
	Yes, we did.
	We had heard quite a bit in the news and everything.
	But these German tourists here celebrating their 25th wedding anniversary are undeterred.
	They say they live through the European swine flu epidemic, and they'll certainly live through this.
	You have to be careful, yes.
	You have to wash your hands, but I think you do it anyway.
	Just do not lick the mice.
	That is very simple.
	If you lick the mice, you can get the virus.
	Is that good?
	So this to me, and we've been over this, there's multiple factions at work here.
	One of the NHK Japan, by the way.
	Thank you.
	Who make the spark plugs?
	So there's warring factions here.
	On one side, we have the Greens, and they want all tourism out, all of it just all together.
	And I've been to, of course, I've been to Camp Curry many times.
	I've had family reunions there.
	I've been to Yosemite and that entire area.
	And I feel that the, particularly for the access roads they have, the tourism is out of control.
	You've got that upscale hotel, what is it, the Walla Walla Wacawana?
	Awani.
	Awani Hotel.
	Room's $1,000 a night.
	Beautiful place.
	Yeah, but it's filled with douchebags, John.
	It's a douchebag hotel.
	It's like a W hotel in a national park.
	You couldn't get in, huh?
	No, I can't afford to get in.
	What are you talking about?
	But you've got that.
	This is the whole point.
	You've got the douchebags there.
	They're always full.
	It's $1,000 a night.
	And then you have Camp Curry where you've got the log cabins for $30.
	So it's very obvious that we also have this playing out.
	It's like, we've got to put a hotel there.
	We've got rid of the log cabins.
	Get rid of the camping ground.
	So I think it's these two factions.
	It's the Greens who want everybody out, and it's the douchebags who want to have more high-class luxury crap because they're just full.
	They need more rooms, essentially.
	That's what I think, and what's the best way?
	I think the theory is as valid as anything.
	Yeah, I mean, it sounds right to me.
	They keep propagating it.
	In fact, they claim it was the douchebag versions of the tents in the village that have the two walls where the mice were hiding out between the walls.
	It's the upscale douchebag version of the tent.
	Yeah, it was the upscale tents.
	Which I think is $40 a night.
	Whatever.
	So there's a couple of things.
	Now here's why I want you to try to tell me what's going on here.
	McCain goes in front of a bunch of people in New Hampshire and he brings with him some dipshit senator, female senator from New Hampshire.
	And they go after the Joint Chiefs of Staff.
	Oh really?
	In a big way.
	Play the McCain goes after Mullen clip.
	But most importantly, as soon as he left, he leaked to the media that that's what he's done.
	What message do the Iranians get?
	When our senior military leader says that he was in Israel, not to tell Israel that we're with them, that we will draw red lines together, that if the Iranians cross those, we will do whatever is necessary, but comes back and says, well, I tried to convince the Israelis not to attack Iran.
	What message do the Iranians get from that?
	I think it's pretty obvious.
	I've been very disappointed in our uniformed leadership and...
	It's very unfortunate because in other ways they've gotten themselves involved in areas that they shouldn't as well.
	Do you want to say that?
	Yeah, you know, so I understand what he's talking about.
	What's your question specifically about this?
	What is he trying to accomplish?
	Does he just want him to bomb Iran?
	Because he made a joke about it some time ago.
	Well, you know, his bris is scheduled for this weekend.
	So he needs to keep the pro-Israel talk going.
	The guy is paid by some influential Israeli lobby.
	All he does is talk about this the whole time.
	Play the second question and get the bigger picture.
	I would just add to what John said about the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.
	He actually came before the Senate Budget Committee, the first time he did that.
	He did this issue with Iran twice.
	And I gave him a really hard time before our committee about it.
	And I said, why did you do that?
	Why did you publicly basically say what the conversations you were having with one of our closest allies that actually would empower Iran?
	And he kind of backed off, but then he did it again recently.
	So I have to say that when I see that, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff reports to the president of the United States.
	So when he does that, he's not doing that unilaterally.
	This is obviously the policy of the administration, and that's what's most disappointing.
	Our allies need to know that we are with them and that we can have those conversations.
	Very honest conversations and direct that aren't going to be leaked.
	So we're not empowering our enemies like Iran.
	And that's, I think, unfortunately, we've seen a repeated pattern of that.
	So we don't know who the woman is?
	Because she's very irritating.
	I'd like to know who she is.
	No, she's a Kelly.
	So just look up the Senate, the senators, U.S. senators from New Hampshire, and she's the one female one.
	Well, so it's very obvious this is the ongoing war.
	When is Iran?
	Are we declared war on Iran?
	I mean, Iran?
	I mean, is it like there are enemy, enemy, enemy, enemy?
	I mean, what?
	Yes!
	Yes!
	Have they declared war?
	Yes, of course we have.
	This is McCain, Romney.
	Yes, of course.
	You listen to this douchebag Netanyahu.
	Have they attacked us?
	I mean, give me the reasons for this.
	I'm just trying to get a background on how Iran is our enemy.
	If they haven't attacked us, have they attacked us?
	Have they declared war on us?
	They're brown and they live in the sand.
	This is enough.
	This is enough.
	Brown live in the sand and control oil.
	It's enough.
	Bomb them.
	And RT is jumping on this bandwagon.
	And listen very carefully, because this is what Netanyahu says as well, about how far Iran is from a nuclear weapon.
	Britain's one of 25 countries taking part in a 12-day exercise in the Strait of Hormuz in the largest war games ever undertaken.
	Now, this, by the way, is propaganda.
	You have to understand, RT is making it sound like the British Armada, I think they have five ships.
	What really does the UK have?
	Never!
	25 countries.
	Yeah, some guys sent, like, you know, their cigar boat.
	Some guys sent, like, their dinghy.
	You know, this is war games.
	Sure.
	In the region.
	Now, this comes as fears grow that Israel is preparing to launch a preemptive strike against Iran's alleged covert nuclear weapons program.
	Now, Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu has said that Iran's six to seven months away from having 90% of what it would need to create an atomic bomb.
	Now, the...
	Alright, help me understand this.
	Six months away to have 90% of what it would take to have an atomic bomb.
	That means they've got nothing.
	That's what it says.
	They've got nothing.
	They've got six months to be...
	So you need...
	I think in order to have the bomb, you have to have 100%.
	They have no...
	Six months from 90%.
	Why are people just going, oh boy, that sounds pretty dangerous.
	I mean, they're giving you the actual numbers.
	It means nothing.
	Yes?
	Well, I don't know.
	It's just annoying.
	I have no idea what else.
	There's something else going on that Israel really has got an itchy trigger finger about.
	And I have no idea what it is.
	But there's obviously none of this bull crap.
	You know, Netanyahu has been saying that Iran is very close to a nuclear weapon for, I think, 10 years.
	I mean, this is not new.
	It's just, you know, now with Romney in the game and his buddy Romney, I think they shared a cubicle together at Boston Consulting Group.
	I mean, these guys go way, way back.
	He's just getting more attention and more ink.
	Well, he's got to be very disappointed when his buddy Rami doesn't get elected.
	Well, you know, I still think that someone's got something up their sleeve and they've got six weeks to do it and I can't wait to see.
	Well, here's something.
	Was President Obama ever in the Boy Scouts?
	I would doubt it.
	Alright, the Boy Scouts of America is accused of covering up alleged child sex abuse cases.
	The Los Angeles Times is reviewing hundreds of documents from the 1970s and 90s.
	The paper says scout officials quietly asked volunteers suspected of abuse to resign and then reportedly covered up the tracks.
	Isn't this amazing?
	I'm just loving this report about the Boy Scouts.
	You know, and...
	Do you understand how huge this is, really, about the Boy Scout and how underreported this is going to be?
	Well, I'm sure it's going to be underreported because everybody in their system has been a Boy Scout.
	It's actually a pretty large operation.
	I'm surprised there's not more of this going on just based on the numbers.
	Well, we don't even know actually what's going on.
	But, you know, we're just getting a little tip of the reporting.
	Yeah.
	The pedo bear, man.
	This thing is just so out of control.
	You know, I was in the Boy Scouts.
	You go out and you camp in the woods.
	It's just about it.
	Did you get any merit badges?
	Yes, I did.
	Yeah, for what?
	What did you get?
	Knot tying, one thing.
	Yeah, yeah.
	What I find disappointing is that I got a merit badge for knot tying, which everybody does.
	I can't tie knots anymore.
	Oh, really?
	I think it's a skill, kind of like spreadsheets.
	No, I can do it.
	I was a Sea Scout, and I can tie...
	You were the Sea Scouts?
	Yeah.
	I was the high-end scouts.
	You're always on a boat.
	Well, the Sea Scout, in Holland you pretty much have the Sea Scouts because you're in the sea, so you might as well.
	But I can do the shank, I can do the slipknot in one and a half seconds.
	It sounds like dances.
	Yeah, he's doing the shank.
	But the slipknot I can literally do in one and a half seconds.
	Huh.
	Yeah, yeah.
	So you kept up your skills.
	Yeah, and I can do the...
	What's the one if your mast breaks and you have to have a knot in the middle and then three for the guideline?
	The broken mast knot.
	Yes, the broken mast three guidewire knot.
	I'm very good at that one.
	The sheep shank.
	There you go.
	Sheep shank.
	I can do...
	I bet you I can still do those.
	Meanwhile, Richard Branson, who I'm now more convinced than ever, is no more than a spokesman shill.
	I don't think the guy has a business bone in his body.
	He's been sent out.
	He's a banker now, a bankster.
	Who's behind that guy?
	Oh, huge money.
	I feel the same way about him.
	He's a front man.
	Yes.
	But who's the real power behind him?
	It's a bunch of hedge funds.
	So they bought Northern Rock, essentially, which now has become virgin money.
	And so he's in America, and he's on Bloomberg, talking...
	Listen to this.
	He's on Bloomberg Television, which is only meant for one audience, which is people who are in the financial sector.
	And Richard Branson is insane.
	Dead awesome.
	Looks increasingly treacherous.
	You've got investments that really span the globe, many, many different sectors.
	What's your overall feeling about what we are going through, about what Europe is going through in Asia right now?
	I'm always an optimist.
	I like to think, amidst all this pessimism that's around, that there are green shoots now.
	There's green shoots, John!
	I just sort of feel that maybe the corner's just beginning to turn.
	And with a final push, we can start climbing out of the stagnation that we've really got into over the last few years.
	So, you know, you can see lots of Potential icebergs ahead, but I'd like to think that maybe the corner's turned.
	Maybe we're finally clawing our way out.
	Potentialized folks?
	What is this guy?
	He sounds like he's a babbling idiot.
	He's insane.
	He's insane.
	Green shoots, we're crawling out of the abyss.
	The tipping point, we're just around the corner.
	Don't worry, a couple of icebergs ahead, but we're okay.
	You're insane, Richard Branson!
	Insane!
	And why is he doing this?
	I mean, he should just do what he always does and jump off a building to launch a product.
	Repel down.
	He did that well for years.
	Yeah.
	He's insane.
	And he's just...
	I don't know.
	I think they've just sent him out.
	Maybe they're so worried about...
	Well, they didn't give him a very good briefing on this meeting.
	And he's...
	I mean, apparently someone has heard the John C. Dvorak cycle theory and know that the abyss is two weeks away as we hit October when the entire economy of the globe collapses.
	And they said, hey, hey, hey, Branson boy, go out there and tell everyone about the green shoots.
	What is a green shoot?
	I don't know.
	It was something that the Obama administration used two years ago.
	They were talking about...
	Remember?
	And Timothy, little Timmy Geithner was talking about green shoots?
	And Bernanke?
	The Bernanke?
	The Ben Bernanke?
	Was talking about the green shoots?
	This was two, three years ago these people were using this.
	I don't remember it at all.
	The green shoots, yeah!
	Yes, we see green shoots in the economy.
	The guy's like living in 19...
	in 2008.
	Green shoots.
	Then he said people are potentialized or something like that.
	I don't know what he was talking about.
	That's what he said.
	The guy's insane.
	Okay, I got the clip of the day.
	You got to cue it up because when you play this clip you're going to have to say, oh, okay.
	I don't know where you got that, Dvorak, but I'll give you a clip of the day because you're demanding it and it is a pretty damn good clip.
	Hillary.
	What is it?
	Hillary?
	Hillary.
	Oh, come on.
	I have the same clip.
	Play it.
	It's almost too delicious to believe, my friend.
	Clip of the day.
	That's when she's talking to her little lover up there in Burma.
	They brought her into Washington.
	Yeah.
	And the woman came into Washington and this too delicious thing was just too much for me.
	But they brought her in here and apparently she came here to beg to pull all the sanctions that we have on Burma.
	And she was in there whining.
	She said, look, here I am.
	Can we pull these sanctions?
	They're killing us.
	Yeah.
	And Hillary's going, I don't know, it's just great that you're here.
	It's too delicious, I say.
	It's almost too delicious to believe, my friend.
	Keep that as a permit.
	Oh yeah, no, definitely.
	If you hear someone say that to you, run in the other direction.
	I don't think that's good.
	It's a very, very frightening thing to hear from her.
	I was frightening when I heard it.
	Delicious?
	It's delicious, my friend.
	Hey, I think something's heating up with Russia, as Russia has basically kicked USAID out of the country.
	Did you follow this at all?
	I've heard about it, but I don't know the background.
	Well, USAID, of course, is pretty much...
	Well, it is a part of the State Department, and this is what's in Egypt, and what's in all these countries, and that's where the techno-experts work, and it's giving you aid, but essentially...
	It's the economic hitman system.
	Yeah, it's economic hitman, it's spies, it's techno-experts, and Putin said, get out!
	October 1st.
	Get out.
	Just get out.
	We're sick of you.
	Yeah.
	Get out.
	You're causing trouble.
	You're making it.
	And I'm sure they're behind all those little marches.
	Of course they are.
	That's why they have to get out.
	Yeah.
	Get out.
	Get out.
	You should kick him out too while they're at it.
	Just get out.
	I'm sick and tired of you guys.
	I love it.
	Just get out.
	All right.
	Enough of y'all.
	But we're USAID! We're here to help!
	Yeah.
	I'm trying to see if there's anything else that's really pressing.
	I got one.
	Okay, good.
	So, I thought this was interesting.
	You know, there's a lot of protests.
	They're setting up Lebanon, because Lebanon's on the list, right?
	Yes, yes, yes.
	Lebanon is one of the Wesley Clark 7.
	Yeah, so it's a...
	Which sounds like a band from the 60s.
	Yes, Dave Clark 5, Wes Clark 7.
	Yeah.
	So, the Wesley Clark 7 includes Lebanon, but we haven't found any reason for Lebanon.
	But listen to this Lebanon Hezbollah suggests intel clip.
	To the call by the leader of the Hezbollah party, Hassan Nasrallah, in a televised speech last night.
	He called for the people of Lebanon to take to the streets.
	To show the world their anger about this film that they say is insulting to the Prophet Mohammed.
	He says that the US intelligence is behind this.
	He's really been firing up the tensions here and definitely calling for his supporters to come out.
	The protests will be held in the southern area of Beirut.
	That's a very big stronghold for the Hezbollah party.
	And as the week progresses, we're going to see more protests across Lebanon.
	So he suggests that U.S. intelligence agencies are behind the phony movie.
	I think it's possible.
	I'm wondering.
	Where did that come from, that clip?
	That was good.
	I like that.
	Where is it from?
	That came out of, I think that was CCTV China.
	Very good.
	Very good.
	And then you can play the second half, which is, I could run either as one or two, but it just shows you that Lebanon is falling prey to the scheme, it seems to me, and the next thing you know, all hell's going to break loose there.
	Making his first public appearance this year, the influential leader warned that this is only the start.
	The world should know our anger will not be a passing outburst, but the start of a serious movement that will continue at all levels of the Muslim nation to defend the prophet of God.
	Hassan Nasrallah called on his supporters to show the world how angry they were.
	He said, with your faces, your fists and your voices, show the world your rage.
	And we have certainly seen that today, as tens of thousands of supporters have taken to the streets in protest.
	She's screaming.
	So I'm now thinking that Nezrala is actually working for us.
	There's no reason to stir this stuff up like this unless you're trying to cause a problem.
	Well, there is another angle and this is an angle that CNN is highlighting and it's almost disgusting the way they bring in these experts to say the following.
	Yeah, Federico We're in uncharted territories here.
	Now we know that a couple of random individuals with an axe to grind and Islamophobic sentiments can launch the kind of wave of violence that we've seen in some parts of the Middle East.
	Now there's no stopping it.
	I mean, you think this is just the beginning.
	I mean, people now know that they can get Admiral Mike Mullen to actually give you a call and try to tell you to not...
	Upload a video on the internet.
	There are many individuals out there who are going to use this to our advantage, and we're going to have to figure out how to deal with this, how to really balance the freedom of speech with the national security interests of the United States.
	So this is very interesting.
	One, because the meme is here, we have to balance, balance, no less, freedom of speech with our national security.
	But in light of the clip you played earlier about McCain, there is clearly a movement to embarrass Admiral Mullen.
	And I think it must be the intelligence community versus the defense community.
	It seems like that war is back on again between those two, and it kind of makes sense knowing that Google has said, hey, we are not going to censor this video, because, of course, Google is the NSA. I mean, they have a relationship that's known, it's documented.
	Of course, they don't tell us exactly what's going on, and so that's why Google says, oh, we're not going to censor that, because we're the...
	We're the spies.
	Intelligence.
	You can't tell us what to do.
	Well, if they're...
	Now, Dave, is this a battle?
	Because we've talked about this...
	Yes, we have.
	...for years, a battle between the Obama administration and the CIA, and then there's the DIA, which is a huge operation, and then there's the NSA. Mm-hmm.
	But where does the CIA... I mean, we have yet to get to the bottom of this.
	What is the real beef going on here?
	Um...
	The only thing I can think of is it comes down to budget and money.
	And why is Mullen, I think it's got to do with Iran, but why is Mullen, it has to do with Iran, or otherwise you wouldn't have the Stooge McCain going after Mullen with an unbelievable disingenuous lack of respect.
	And the guy's a military guy.
	He's the boss of them.
	No, I'm talking about McCain, a military guy.
	Oh, well, yeah.
	So they say.
	He shows nothing but respect generally, but he shows zero respect for Mullen for the Joint Chiefs of Staff, and Mullen in particular was a Navy guy.
	I don't know.
	We just haven't figured it out yet, but we're going to.
	We will figure it out.
	We're going to, for sure.
	But Mullen seems like a very sensible guy.
	Well, there you go.
	That's mistake number one.
	Don't be a sensible guy.
	That would be wrong.
	I don't know.
	There's definitely something that's got to do with either a contract or something that didn't go through or something Mullen queered a deal on.
	He may have screwed up something that was going to make big bucks for these guys and he screwed the pooch.
	I mean, who knows?
	But I think we can find out if we just dig around.
	I'm pretty sure that our producers will be able to point us in the general direction.
	But it's clear, they're out on the warpath for Mullen, and it's McCain, it's Netanyahu.
	Mullen is, I guess he's Obama's guy.
	So it's just, it's sad is what it is.
	It's just freaking sad.
	So now in Spain, all hell's breaking loose there, too, which is underreported, of course, here especially.
	Would this be because...
	Our media does not want to show, for people who aren't familiar with some of our philosophies, our media does not want to show a lot of riots around the world because it might give us...
	An idea.
	An idea.
	So better left unsaid.
	So now they want to...
	I've got this kind of double clip here.
	Spain wants to privatize the railroads.
	To rail workers.
	He protested against possible plans to privatize Spain's rail network.
	Elsewhere, things went quiet.
	Some services were cancelled as those working on the railways went on the strike.
	There's lots of people on the platform and it's complicated.
	We'll see what the return journey's like.
	I think the strike's fair.
	They want to privatise the rail sector and I don't think that's right.
	Spain has one of the best high-speed rail networks in the world.
	The unions fear the government plans to sell off the country's rail operator next year.
	And this, they believe, would mean job losses and a rise in fares.
	Over the weekend, thousands of public sector workers and others demonstrated against the Spanish government's austerity reforms.
	Oh, well, this is very obvious.
	This is how it all starts.
	By Ayn Rand.
	Taggart Rail Lines.
	I walked into that one.
	You sure did.
	That's your own fault, man.
	You did that to yourself.
	Yeah, well, anyway, so play the second clip, and this is the one that, as soon as I heard this part of the report, which is pretty long, I said, oh, now, there's something that just doesn't make any sense.
	The unions warn of an autumn of protest.
	But the government here in Madrid shows no sign that it's ready to change its agenda of deep austerity.
	In fact, towards the end of this month, the economy minister, Luis de Guindos, will announce yet more economic reforms, and they could include plans to privatise the railways.
	Privatising Spain's railways would be a crime for some, but for the government it would provide vital revenue as it tries to balance its budget, a task which is made tougher as the economy here is in recession.
	Tom Burridge, BBC News in Madrid.
	Yeah.
	Okay, well, let me just say, from an economic perspective, let's say they sell off the railroads.
	They're not going to get cash.
	No.
	They're going to get a bunch of accounts receivable for all practical purposes and promissory notes in stock, which is not going to do anything for the budget.
	It's going to maybe balance some books if you're a good bookkeeper.
	But it seems to me this is to get more revenue.
	Well, they're not going to get any revenue from the trains once they sell them to some douchebag.
	Why don't they just raise the fare?
	Yeah.
	They want revenue.
	Double the price of train tickets.
	I'll tell you why.
	Because in the UK, they already figured it out.
	You privatize, and then you raise the fare.
	That's the way to go.
	Yeah, to screw the public and raise fares and then the government gets no benefit.
	It's just totally for some corporation.
	It's a corporatism thing.
	It's just fascism at its base roots.
	Are you confusing Europe's government with an actual body that gives a crap about the people?
	Please tell me this is not true.
	I must be dizzy.
	I go back to when this program started in just before 2008.
	We're now almost in our fifth year.
	Yeah, our fifth year coming up October 26th.
	We hope people would help us out by celebrating with a $51.30 donation.
	Dvorak.org slash NA. And I had just read the Lisbon Treaty and was astounded by the fact that these sovereign nations were going to have a European Parliament with over 700 members who could sit in this Tower of Babel.
	In fact, the thing looks like the Tower of Babel.
	Yet, this body cannot bring laws to the floor.
	Only the undemocratically chosen commission can do this.
	We've always seen this as a takeover, and it's a takeover by corporations.
	In fact, I think it's the same corporations who, you know, BASF and IG Farben, this is all the same thing.
	Nothing has changed since World War II, except, you know, you guys got, you know, better television now because we're, you know, we got satellites so you can see, you know, our Kardashians.
	Right, and the production values have improved.
	Much more, much more improved.
	So it's the same thing.
	And I'm reading all the reports now coming out of Europe that really do point to your cycle theory coming to fruition in October.
	This October, in several weeks.
	What's your feeling?
	You and Horowitz look at this stuff all the time.
	Are you feeling confident it's going to happen?
	Because we have either October, March, or next October.
	Yeah, those are the three spots where something bad could happen.
	Well, my thinking currently is that they might be able to stretch it into next year because of bringing in more of this quantitative easing.
	Now, it has two effects.
	One, it definitely boosts the stock market.
	I mean, we're going to see the Dow Jones hit $14,000.
	We have no manufacturing.
	Everybody's out of work.
	It's just a mess.
	Gas prices are too high.
	I mean, there's no reason for this.
	Boom of the stock market.
	Well, yes, there is.
	So the elites can go rob us completely blind before it all crashes.
	And then we're going to go buy our stuff, grab our houses, grab everything, and then it crashes.
	Isn't that the system?
	Yeah, that's the way it kind of works.
	But whatever the case is, the market should be boosted, and it might get us through October.
	I mean, there's the possibility.
	The problem is the market is such...
	It's not, like, really controllable.
	I mean, you can do the quantitative easing thing and pump money in, but since they don't...
	And I've thought about this, too, because I actually think I may have discussed it with Horowitz on the last DH Unplugged.
	I think right during the show, I came up with this.
	I said, but the problem is, is that...
	You're trying to duplicate what happened in 1850, which should have been a down cycle in the 40- or 80-year cycle that we all like to talk about, that cyclists like to talk about.
	In 1850, nothing happened, and we didn't have a depression until 1857, which would be the equivalent of 2017 in this cycle.
	And the reason for that was gold.
	There was $30 trillion in today's money of gold pumped into the economy, and that kept the thing at bay.
	But that's because we found it.
	That was because of the gold rush, and people were digging it out of the ground, right?
	Right, and the difference is that it looks the same.
	We said, well, quantitative easing, we were just putting more money into the system, which gold was doing at the time.
	And by the way, it was blamed for it in 1857 when it was deconstructed.
	In 1857 was the first year that a whole slew of books came out on trying to analyze the Depression, which now it's very popular to do.
	Anyway, so all this money went rushing into the system, and they're trying to push it into the system now to forestall the inevitable.
	The difference is, and it just dawned on me, that the difference back then was the people who got the free money Gold from the ground was the public at large.
	Yeah, not banks and mortgage companies.
	Yeah.
	So now the money's just going into the top, into the banks, and we're just saving it.
	So that's not going to work to push off the problem.
	Unless we give everybody $30,000 or more a pop, which I've said before, just give free money away, the way it was done in 1850.
	I would elect you for president so fast.
	I mean, I'd elect you for president of the Fed.
	I mean, you would be my guy.
	I just want my 30 grand, Dvorak.
	Hand it over.
	Right.
	Exactly.
	And everybody who voted for me would get 30 grand.
	They're not going to do that.
	And hookers and blow.
	Come on.
	Roll it out.
	This is going to fail.
	Well, of course, because the quantitative easing is buying up mortgage-backed securities, which is just a bailout of the banks.
	Exactly.
	Yeah.
	It's a scam.
	Hey, wait a minute.
	We're being ripped off.
	Wow!
	So here's how you can make some money.
	You want my tip?
	You've given your analysis.
	Now here's my tip.
	Go out and buy as much silver as you can.
	I'll tell you why.
	JP Morgan has pretty much the market on silver on paper.
	If they would ever have to actually deliver, they can't deliver.
	I don't think there's enough silver in the universe for them to deliver.
	And they are now being investigated.
	And I think JPMorgan Chase is targeted.
	For whatever reason, whatever they've done, maybe it's just Jamie Dimon is an a-hole, and I think that could be enough because he's so smug and now he's kind of gotten in a little bit of trouble.
	I think they've been targeted, and I predict this is the bank that is going to go down first in the economic collapse, whether it's October, March, or next October.
	And they will not be able to deliver on all their silver futures.
	And if you hold silver, and I, of course, I would say it'd be better to hold it physically, but maybe there's some, you know, you can answer that, John, if there's stocks or mining stocks or ETFs or whatever you're supposed to have.
	I think silver could easily go to 60 from its 34 or 35 where it is today.
	What do you think?
	I'd have to look at what would happen if they were forced to deal with the silver that they have contracts for.
	I don't know.
	I'd have to think about it.
	I think your theories on precious metals have always been pretty accurate for some unknown reason.
	It's not based on expertise, that's for sure.
	A lot of people get one hair up their butt, which is then they get really good at one thing.
	There'll be somebody that really knows the auto industry and when to invest and when to sell.
	There's a couple of guys that are just Apple stock guys.
	That's all they do.
	They know when to buy and when to sell, when to buy and when to sell.
	That's all they care about.
	And they're good at it.
	So I trust your judgment after the gold run-up.
	Yeah, well gold is now, what, we're back at 1770, 1772?
	Yeah, it's back up there.
	And remember I said it was a buying moment.
	Of course I had no money to buy anything, but at least I said it.
	Yeah, I know it's good.
	Somebody did, I'm sure.
	I always love it when our producers hand over a little sliver of gold.
	It's always nice.
	I tuck it away.
	I'm like, this is great.
	I'll have it.
	We've got our shavings.
	Not savings, but shavings.
	Shavings.
	Anyway, okay, we'll keep an eye on this whole thing.
	Yeah, but the silver thing is based on two things.
	I think it was probably Max Kaiser who led me down to understanding that JPMorgan Chase...
	Has this huge exposure to silver.
	And if you just look at what's happening, everywhere in the financial press they're talking about JPMorgan Chase, big investigation, big lawsuit.
	They're setting aside money for the fines they're going to have to pay.
	And I think just combined with the fact that Jamie Dimon, he already had the big whale who blew it on some derivatives in London.
	I think the rest of the banking community just hate him.
	Because they're all evil.
	They hate him so much that they're like, we're going to take you down.
	I think that's what's going on.
	And they will.
	If you've got enough of these people, they will.
	And then that silver market will just pop and it could go to $60.
	And it's cool because you can get in relatively cheap if you have any dough.
	You know, people should watch the movie The International, I think is the name of it.
	We've talked about this, yeah.
	With BCCI? It's a good movie.
	Yeah, it's a great movie.
	Anyway, I have one last clip if you want to play it.
	It's just kind of a random clip I picked up, and I think this is going to be thematic.
	Again, this is on international news broadcasts.
	Democracy does not suit Islam.
	There's a lot of anti-Islamic stuff going on around the world, and so they're bringing in more and more of this sort of thing, so we're all skeptical.
	And it's interesting.
	An ultra-conservative Muslim group denied any involvement in the assault, but said it rejected what it saw as the imposition of democracy in Libya.
	From Benghazi, Weira Davis now reports.
	Libyans celebrating Martyrs Day as perhaps only they know best.
	With guns.
	In the city where the uprising against Muammar Gaddafi began, there are reminders everywhere of the huge sacrifices these people made to win their freedom.
	But there are some here who still refuse to lay down their weapons.
	Radical Islamist groups like Ansar al-Sharia say the fight for Libya is not over.
	Ominously, they completely reject a Western-style solution.
	We don't believe in the democratic system.
	Even those countries who pretend that they are ruled by democracy know that it's fake.
	We want to tell the whole world that the project of democracy is not for us, and it doesn't suit Islam.
	You know what I don't understand?
	I think Islam is really cool because when they celebrate something, they fire guns.
	All over the place.
	And I think that this happens to be, in case you didn't know, we have a Constitution Week.
	As proclaimed by our president, of course we had Constitution Day earlier this week and Citizenship Day.
	This is Constitution Week 2012 and I think we should go out and you know it's like, hey John, happy Constitution Week!
	Why can't we do that?
	That's so awesome.
	There's a number of people killed by random bullets like that.
	So anyway, there's a belief now, and it's the couple of philosophers, one of the most famous ones that's very popular with the kids, Zizek, who's out of Slovenia, a very influential communist, supposedly he's a communist, but he's not really.
	And he's got some enemy philosopher in France that's come out, and they're fighting with each other about They both consider that the real trend in the world right now is anti-democratic.
	And they both cite Europe as the best example.
	Well, yeah.
	They just don't want democracy at all.
	They want fascism, which, by the way, has been a trend in Europe since the 20s.
	Because in 1920, in the early 20s, when fascism became popular, it was an intellectual movement.
	Mostly from the left, but it was an intellectual movement, and everybody thought it was a great thing, and it was corporatism is what it amounted to.
	And we're starting to see that on a worldwide basis.
	We may be one of the last, except for the French.
	The French and us, and I think they probably influenced us on this more than anyone, are probably going to be the last bastions of true democracy if things keep going the way they're going.
	And we don't want to even admit or even face this possibility.
	So I think the reasons for that, the French, of course, are actually well-versed in democracy.
	The democratic system is kind of a French...
	A French guy wrote it, if you will.
	They are very well known for chopping off the heads of people who are leaders and elitists and don't want to follow the democratic system.
	And so they understand it very well.
	In America, we are, of course, completely stupid, don't understand it anymore, but a couple of guys wrote this thing into our Constitution, which we celebrate this week, about guns.
	And so there's nothing worse than having 300 million crazy people with guns.
	So that's why we're going to keep that around.
	And I will mention one thing, J.C. pointed out, Buskill Jr.
	pointed out, he says, the one thing about the French is, even though they go very democratic, they do swing the other way, and Napoleon will crop up, and it's always yearning for one of those guys.
	Because they go out and kick butt.
	So the French have a kind of a dichotomous view of the world.
	At first, they like the democracy and the freedom, like this guy who did the cartoons that we talked about earlier.
	But if they get a shot at Napoleon, they'll take it.
	Yeah, then there's that.
	Eh, swingers.
	Eh, that's French.
	That was French.
	All right, John, I think we should get out of here.
	Plenty of stuff to look into.
	Looking forward to our producers sending us as much information as possible, certainly on the things that we're investigating.
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