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	Hey kid, your pig looks delicious.
	Adam Curry, John C. Devorak.
	It's Sunday, August 12th, 2012.
	Time for your Gitmo Nation media assassination episode 434.
	This is no agenda.
	Right in front of Dottie Mae and at the bottom of the bogus basin from Gitmo Nation, Potato, Boise, Idaho.
	In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley, where I can hear the music, but I can barely hear Adam Curry, I'm John C. Dvorak.
	Do you need more of me, John?
	Do you need more?
	I need more of you unless...
	Yeah, because the sound is drowning you out.
	How's that?
	Do you have more of me now?
	Is this better?
	Well, I didn't.
	It's relative.
	That's the problem.
	Oh, really?
	Because, you know, if you play some music and then try to talk under it, I can see if it's...
	Okay, well, hold on a second.
	Let's try this.
	Do you hear me while I'm talking over this?
	I can't hear a word you said.
	Not important, don't worry.
	Yes, John, here in Boise, Idaho.
	That is the proper pronunciation, by the way.
	Boise?
	Boise, yes.
	Can you pronounce it with an S? With an S. Boise?
	Boise.
	Oh, you mean as opposed to Boise?
	If you say Boise here, then you're a douchebag.
	Boise.
	Boise.
	I'm in Boise!
	Boise.
	We're doing theater in Boise!
	Exactly.
	Really?
	It's Boise?
	It's Boise, yeah.
	I learned this at our meetup.
	Yeah, they all were condemning you for saying it wrong.
	They were looking at me like, idiots.
	Stupid dudes.
	Not Boise.
	Yeah, but you kind of got to say it the way they talk here.
	So it's like, Boise.
	There's a lot of mumbling going.
	They mumble?
	They mumble in Boise.
	I've been reliably informed.
	In the morning to you, John C. Dvorak.
	In the morning to you, Adam Curry.
	In the morning to all ships and sea boots on the ground, subs in the water, and feet in the air.
	Yes, and people jumping from planes here in Boise.
	Actually, I'm at Caldwell Airport.
	You're at the airport?
	I'm at the airport.
	I'm right in front of the hangar.
	Our associate executive producer who has been putting us up for the past two days here is Chris Breshears, not an unknown entity to the show.
	And Chris has kindly taken us in.
	And in order to keep me as cool as possible, we have set up the sin bin in front of his brother's aircraft hangar.
	And he has a little company here called Vintage Airframes, and he restores Warbirds.
	Ooh!
	Yes, and so right behind me in the hangar is Dottie Mae.
	Dottie Mae, very famous P-47 aircraft.
	In fact, if you go to dottymay.curry.com, D-O-T-T-I-E-M-A-Y, dottymay.curry.com, you'll see a webpage there about this aircraft, which he's restoring.
	To its original flying status.
	The whole story behind this aircraft.
	It was the last one to fly over Europe, I think, on the day of liberation.
	And the pilot was doing something low over the lake and crash-landed into the lake.
	And it was at the bottom of this lake for, I don't know, 40 years or something.
	It was in the news like five or six years ago.
	Basically won that war.
	I'm sorry?
	It's amazing we won that war, goofballs.
	By the way, it should be M-A-E, but I misspelled it, so just go to M-A-Y. My mistake.
	But the cool thing is, Chris' brother Mike, he has one of these swamp coolers for the hangar.
	Yeah, we have one in the house.
	Not this one.
	This thing is six feet tall.
	Well, that's a little bigger than ours.
	Yeah, it's huge.
	You hook up a hose and then it basically blows really cool air and I've got the sides.
	Is it hot in Boise?
	It's very hot in Boise.
	It can get up to 100 plus degrees.
	And it's very smoky in Boise.
	Oh, really?
	Yeah.
	From what?
	From the fires, dude.
	What fires?
	Oh, shoot.
	Is Idaho on fire?
	Yes, Idaho is on fire and you are on helium.
	Well, you sent me to this website, and it's got a lot of animated stuff.
	Yeah, I'm sorry.
	I shouldn't have done that.
	I don't know why you keep doing that, and then I end up like this, and we have to reconnect.
	Maybe if you update your Skype or something.
	I think it's time.
	I don't want to update the Skype.
	All right, I'm going to call you back.
	I hate that stupid Skype.
	He's got to update the Skype, man.
	I'll make it so much better.
	and let's see if this works.
	Meadow?
	you Is this any good?
	Yeah, that's much better.
	Okay, yeah, you're good.
	It was breaking up.
	The ringtones was breaking up.
	Try it again.
	No, no, it's good.
	It's good, it's good.
	Don't hang up.
	Don't hang...
	He hung up.
	Don't do that.
	It takes a second, man.
	Ah...
	He's such a connoisseur of technology.
	Is this any better?
	Yeah, it's good.
	Don't hang up.
	Give it a second to adjust.
	No, no, it was not ringing right even.
	Oh, okay.
	Yeah, you're okay.
	Yeah, okay.
	Yeah, so when we drove up from...
	Where were we?
	Were you...
	We drove from...
	We drove past...
	We were in Layton.
	That's it.
	We were in Layton, just above Salt Lake City, and then we stopped halfway...
	Well, not a little more than halfway, in Twin Falls, Idaho, for a sleepover at a COA campground.
	And the entire drive, we just saw nothing but black smoke.
	I mean, the hills are alive with fire in Idaho.
	Black smoke?
	Yes, black smoke.
	What, are they burning tires?
	No, it's black smoke.
	And we could see the fires all around the hills.
	It's pretty bad, actually.
	Global warming, my friend.
	Yes, of course.
	Of course it is.
	So we stopped in Twin Falls, Idaho.
	Very famous for its one fall.
	It's one waterfall.
	It used to be two waterfalls.
	Yeah, we went there once and they had a sign by the other waterfall saying, we've shut this waterfall down.
	Yeah, they shut it down.
	There apparently is a valve someplace.
	Yes.
	They shut down one of the Twin Falls, so it should be fall, just one fall Idaho.
	But of course, they have a very famous bridge in Twin Falls, which is, I think, the highest bridge, or the only maybe bridge that you can base jump off of in America.
	So people just hop up on the bridge and jump off and base jump down.
	And of course that is only a stone's throw from an extremely famous spot, which is where Evel Knievel did his famous jump across Snake River.
	Oh.
	Yeah.
	And missed.
	He missed it.
	Yeah, he missed it.
	But it doesn't matter because we love Evel Knievel regardless.
	We're Americans.
	And so we stayed at Koha campground.
	We got to see a pretty spectacular sunset despite the smoke.
	Actually, it made it a little bit better, I think.
	And then on Friday, we continued the journey another two hours, I guess, up to Boise, which is a very interesting town.
	Have you ever been in Boise?
	Yep.
	There's a lot of survivalists in that area, you know.
	Oh, this is a very, you know, it's a very interesting state because it's, I think you would classify it if you were to do a douchebag map.
	It's a red state.
	But they have a lot of blue tendencies.
	For example...
	You'll be walking down, and I thought it was just a PR thing, but it turns out it's law.
	I was walking down the street, and I'm smoking my cigarette, and I see these signs like, children play here, don't smoke.
	I'm like, pfft, right.
	Shut up, slave!
	And then I'm walking a little further, and it's like, people meet here, don't smoke!
	Shut up, slave!
	And I said to Chris, I said, wow, who's doing this PR? He says, no, that's actually law.
	There are streets you can't smoke on in Boise.
	Huh.
	Yet everyone has guns and it's all cool.
	So it's kind of conflicted.
	Yeah, that is conflicted.
	Well, it's interesting the way some of these things, these politically correct bullcrap sneaks into the public consciousness and there's not much you can do about it.
	No.
	Even in Boise.
	Actually, I have a general observation now that we've been on the road.
	I guess we're two-thirds of the way through our Hot Pockets 2009 tour.
	Hot Pockets!
	And general observation.
	Maybe it's in The Art of War.
	I don't know.
	It's been a while since I've read it.
	But I think the most surefire way to conquer your enemy is to divide and conquer.
	Is this in The Art of War, this strategy, divide and conquer?
	I don't know.
	I haven't read that book for 30 years.
	I don't have to read it.
	It gets read to me by various venture capitalists in the Silicon Valley.
	If this is indeed a strategy, it's working.
	Because my general observation as we've gone through a lot of these different states on the trip is that people really do classify themselves as right or left, red or blue, Republican, Democrat, and the way they talk about the other side Side A and Side B equally is with disdain and fear.
	Yeah.
	And it's really, really disheartening.
	Yeah, yeah.
	It's a classic.
	In fact, this is the reason I played that clip a couple of shows ago with Gore Vidal saying since 1968, he made the observation that it's all the same party, which it is.
	Yes, thank you.
	But meanwhile, you have this divide thing.
	That way, they can do whatever they want.
	But it's literally like, oh, he's a Fox News watcher.
	Yeah.
	Or he's an MSNBC watcher, or she's this, or he's that.
	And I can see the conversation not taking place because of this.
	And the funny thing is, this is what gets me the most, is that they won't cross over and listen to the other side arguments on their show.
	Zero.
	And even worse than that, John.
	Zero.
	Zero crossover.
	As I'm listening to people.
	Oh, Rush Limbaugh's an idiot.
	Have you ever listened to Rush Limbaugh?
	He's anything but an idiot.
	It's so...
	And even what you just said.
	What you just said now.
	Someone will say, oh my god, I can't believe it.
	He's a Rush Limbaugh listener.
	He's an idiot.
	Right.
	And I can hear the talking points in people's, just in what they're saying, from both sides.
	I'm like, oh my gosh.
	People, there is one thing that is extremely important.
	You must.
	You must turn off your freaking television.
	Exactly.
	You are being mind-controlled.
	Turn off the radio, do it while you're at it.
	You are being mind-controlled.
	It is really, it's unbelievable what has happened.
	Turn off.
	It is frightening, John.
	And these are just regular people.
	They're not in the big media capitals, but they are so incredibly indoctrinated.
	And you're right, there's zero crossover.
	And we're going down this way.
	Well, it's a good strategy to control the masses.
	I mean, the Chinese use a different approach.
	They have one thought process and they make everyone obey.
	But this idea of splitting everybody into these two camps and then exaggerating it with these red and blue states and ironically giving the Republicans the red, a.k.a.
	communist color.
	That is kind of ironic, isn't it?
	I love that when they did that.
	I think it was CNN that came up with that gem.
	We should look at the history of where that came from.
	Yeah, I bet you I guarantee it's some smart guy.
	This is going to be funny.
	Watch this.
	See if anyone notices.
	Watch this.
	They'll never figure it out.
	I wish I was in that meeting.
	Yeah, it would have been a great meeting.
	And so, and then the blue states, of course, are the Democrats.
	And then everyone's either red or blue.
	And then they make a big deal out of it.
	Oh, the red blues.
	And they just play it.
	And everybody plays it this way.
	I mean, Fox plays red, blue.
	Of course, Fox is, as we surmise, probably a Democrat operation anyway.
	And CNN is the one who pushes it the most.
	And all the networks decide to go with it.
	So everyone goes with it.
	And now the public buys into it.
	It's bull crap.
	Yeah, but to such a degree that people actually will not even want to speak to each other.
	And this is the problem.
	Because you don't wake up one morning and you're blue or you're red.
	Everyone has little tendencies of blueness, redness.
	You're all over the map.
	You're bicurious.
	You're just all over the map.
	Well, maybe not you, John.
	But you can't classify yourself that way.
	Because we will never, ever figure it out.
	Ever.
	Ever.
	And it's just working.
	I mean, that is my general big observation from the tour.
	Who would have thunk it?
	Were you seeing the same thing, or you noticed it less, or did you just not notice it when you took the Hot Pockets 2008 tour?
	I think it's more.
	It's gotten much, much worse.
	It really has.
	You don't think it's just geographical?
	Possibly.
	In one year it couldn't have gotten that bad.
	I have literally heard people say, oh, I will never invite a Republican to my house.
	I have heard people say, I'm more Republican than you.
	What is this?
	What does that even mean?
	That means there's a checklist someplace.
	Somebody puts a checklist together, but who is that person?
	But it's so incredibly wrong.
	We have to stop that.
	It's not going to happen.
	No, I'm afraid you're right.
	Sometimes I feel like we're ready for civil war.
	It's the blue against the reds.
	Another nice, interesting meme that they use there.
	Yeah.
	Well, the thing is, the blues are pretty much concentrated in high population areas and the reds are pretty much concentrated in the sticks.
	But the reds probably can shoot better.
	But in the Civil War, the original Civil War in 1860, the South thought they were going to win because all the Southerners could shoot very well.
	And the Northerners didn't know how to hold a gun.
	And so they were winning actually in the very early days.
	But the sheer numbers and the manufacturing capability and some of the other stuff that the North had going finally won the day.
	And then they decided to burn down Atlanta.
	Well, I think the bottom line, as four out of five dentists will agree, is somewhere a hundred years from now, history will show that...
	How funny was it that the American population let themselves be mind-controlled by television?
	Because that's what it is, John.
	It is television.
	And maybe some radio...
	You know, but it's, really, it's just, you know, I can hear the talking points coming.
	It's just like, blah, blah, blah.
	I'm like, wow, okay, I know exactly where you heard that.
	Over and over again.
	I know, I do the same thing.
	I hear somebody giving knee-jerk quotes that they heard on either a right or a left-wing show, one of the two, and we listen to both, the two of us, and to see what they're saying.
	And then you hear the memes being pushed out there, and you go, oh my god, this is like a meme.
	And all they're doing is parroting it.
	One of the things we do on this show is complain about the fact that the media in general...
	Just parrots what public relations people tell them to parrot, and they do.
	Now the public at large is parroting some meme or other that they're being fed by one of these talk shows or something on the television.
	In fact, there was a great example of just this, and maybe it went a little bit further beyond just PR for companies, with this scandal, which of course is going pretty much...
	Lightly reported about douchebag Fareed Zakaria, who took one for the team.
	I'm very impressed at what he did.
	He was accused of plagiarizing an article by a journalist, or let's just say a writer, for The New Yorker.
	And it was his anti-gun rant.
	That might even be taken down at this point.
	But I recall reading this in Time Magazine, because I subscribed to a news feed, and the title of the article was, The Case for Gun Control.
	And it was, you know, the exact, it was, it's like I'm reading talking points, Wade Michael Page, I'm reading, you know, what are the examples of horrible atrocities, James Holmes, we have the Sikh slaughter, and then right back to Jared Lee Loeffner.
	And I'm reading through this, and then, you know, there's all these statistics.
	I'm like, wow, okay, so where do you get these statistics from?
	And so it was identical, parts of it, to this woman's article in New Yorker.
	And it's like, and he...
	Zakaria says, you're right, you know, I had no time, you know, it was really bad, I shouldn't do this.
	But this is not what happened.
	He merely...
	Was too lazy to rewrite the memo that he got.
	That's what happened.
	I was thinking that too.
	Oh no, it's so obvious.
	It's like, here's the memo, here's the examples, here's the statistics, go ahead and use that.
	And he just, you know, he was lazy and didn't rewrite it.
	And of course the woman in New Yorker didn't rewrite it either, and that's why it looks like plagiarism.
	But it's really just the same memo.
	Whoever's handing it out is irrelevant.
	That is what your media is today.
	And no one sees this.
	Yeah, well, Zakaria rewrites a lot of these memos, apparently, because his stuff is all...
	You know, all you do is do it.
	You can do this by doing a phrase search.
	And, of course, he was busted by somebody who ran one of these plagiarism programs that they use in colleges.
	Ooh.
	Because kids are always plagiarizing, or they used to.
	They do it less than us.
	No, they always do it, John.
	Come on.
	They've always done it, but I'm saying they're doing a better job of it now because these plagiarism programs are rampant, and all the professors use them, especially when you've got some kid who's like a – well, I would say Zakaria would fall into this category.
	He was some sort of a kind of an idiot.
	And all of a sudden he comes out with this really nice paper that he claims he put a lot of work in.
	He run the plagiarism program and he finally lifted it from here and there and the other place.
	Usually they take it from a number of sources.
	I don't think that's – when you're a student, I don't necessarily think it's bad to cut and paste things when you're doing a lot of deep research because you're still learning and that's kind of the idea.
	But I don't think you have to be some sort of a fantastic essayist when you're in college.
	But at the same time, there is a rule, so the rules get broken.
	And, you know, this guy, these guys, everyone has to be aware of these programs that are out there to catch you doing this crap.
	And let me just say, from a writer's perspective, it's not that hard to write something.
	The length of his stuff is in the 600-700 word range generally.
	Right.
	That's 45 minutes.
	I mean, what is he doing with this time?
	Is he hanging around holding a glass of Chardonnay at a cocktail party showing off?
	If he is, he could be writing instead.
	Right.
	Somehow I think you're right.
	By the way, here's his exact quote, which is very interesting.
	He issued a statement Friday saying, quote, Media reporters have pointed out that paragraphs in my time column this week bear close similarities to paragraphs in Jill Lepore's essay in the April 23rd issue of The New Yorker.
	They are right.
	I made a terrible mistake.
	It is a serious lapse and one that is entirely my fault.
	I apologize unreservedly to my editors at Time and to my readers.
	He does not say he copied it.
	He made the mistake of not rewriting the memo.
	He's not actually saying I copied it.
	Funny, huh?
	That's a good catch.
	Yeah, it's funny.
	But he's a douchebag, that guy.
	I never liked him.
	Man, me neither.
	Douchebag!
	Give him a little douchebag there.
	So, back to the trip.
	Yes.
	By the way, since we're discussing, since you're talking about television, I might as well give you, I ran into a new meme, by the way.
	Oh, good.
	What do we have?
	The meme is the new normal.
	Oh, yes.
	Well, we know the new normal.
	You've been on that.
	The new normal is a meme going on, but now there's a show.
	Uh-oh.
	On NBC coming out called The New Normal.
	And apparently The New Normal is a gay world.
	Seriously, you might as well play this.
	This has got so many...
	Here's what the message is.
	All men are gay.
	All women are whores.
	Although this one woman sells a baby for $35,000.
	And that's The New Normal.
	So all men are gay.
	All women are whores.
	That's what NBC is pushing for.
	I am...
	This fall, the creator of Glee brings you the portrait of a family where different is the new normal.
	That home of a rock.
	Like what Simon and Garbungo would refer to as an island.
	Are those the doctors you work with?
	Oh my god!
	This is a nightmare.
	No!
	This ain't a nightmare.
	Last time I checked, it was 2012.
	Now why don't you take your racist mind back to the past?
	I feel like I just ain't a black and gay stew.
	Wow.
	The New Normal.
	Tuesdays this fall, here on NBC. Oh, interesting.
	And in The New Normal, all men are gay, women are whores, and black people talk like this!
	They talk like a stereotype of a black woman.
	Amazing!
	How do they get away with this?
	You tell me.
	This is NBC, you know, the biggest supporters of the Obama administration because of the government contracts available to General Electric, obviously.
	Yes.
	And I watched this thing with my jaw down.
	They've got, you know, the woman, the mom's a bigot, the daughter's got some daughter, another daughter, she's a grandma, I guess, Ellen Barkin, who plays this.
	Oh, yeah, interesting, yeah.
	It's a really, really bad movie.
	It's a messaging show and it's got memes and creepy messages.
	It's astonishing that this would get on there.
	Is that something else we have to watch this fall?
	I doubt it's going to catch on.
	The Glee guys are on a roll because they're singing and dancing.
	I think your theory is correct.
	You're the one that brought this up.
	I like the singing and dancing shows.
	Glee?
	It's a hit because it's essentially a musical, so it's singing and dancing and it's gay, but this is just gay.
	Hold on, singing and dancing is not necessarily gay?
	No, I said it's singing and dancing and it's gay, the show.
	Okay.
	Well, as a bi-curious male, I'm very excited about this new normal.
	Where do I fit in on the spectrum of normal?
	Almost normal?
	Abnormal.
	So we had a meet-up in Idaho, in the Basque neighborhood.
	Apparently there's a lot of Basques in Boise.
	Yes, Basques.
	In Boise, there's Basques?
	There's Basques in Boise.
	And this is because of the...
	Of course, in Boise, you can get five acres for next to nothing.
	And so they kind of migrated here, and the Basques, I guess, like to have livestock.
	That must mean there's some good eating around there.
	We had a fantastic dinner at the meet-up at...
	What's the name of it?
	Lucaona.
	Luket Ona, I think it was.
	And I had tripe for the first time in my life.
	And I really liked it until one of our producers who was at the table explained to me what tripe is.
	Which is essentially the stomach or the stuff that keeps the guts of the cow together.
	Usually the intestines.
	Yeah.
	Well, it's like a honeycomb kind of texture.
	Yeah, it's intestinal.
	Yeah.
	Only the French...
	I went out of my way to upstage this story.
	But I went out of my way.
	I went years.
	I said, you know, people eat tripe and like it.
	Yeah.
	Why?
	So I went and spent, I don't know...
	Years, literally.
	Every once in a while, I'd go to some place, like in San Francisco, I remember having tripe soup in an Italian restaurant.
	Couldn't swallow it.
	I went on, and I said, this is crazy.
	This stuff's terrible.
	And so then I finally, one year, I was in Paris, and I went to this one-star restaurant that specialized in a dish called Androuillette.
	And that is essentially tripe stuffed with tripe and deep fat fried.
	Oh, interesting.
	After being treated or something.
	And two things I realized.
	One, it was really good.
	Yeah.
	And two, it tasted like a hot dog.
	Okay.
	I don't care what these sausage guys say.
	No, we don't have any tripe in our hot dogs.
	Bull crap.
	I had more like a tripe stew.
	With some, it had, I think it had okra in there for some reason.
	Okra.
	That's more disgusting than tripe.
	But it was really good.
	The taste was outstanding of the tripe.
	The texture is just not really appealing when you're chewing on it.
	It's kind of like a chewing on a condom, kind of.
	You know what I mean?
	Yeah, that's not the case with Andoyette.
	They're almost crunchy.
	Oh, no, no.
	This was far from crunchy.
	So I was okay until it was like, oh, it's just guts.
	I'm like, ah, thanks.
	I didn't like the bowl of guts, we betcha, kid.
	Hey, dude, thanks, man.
	So we had, actually, this was a big knight and dame fest.
	We had, I think, three knights and a dame at this meetup in Boise.
	And here's a name for you, Sir A.J. Reistat.
	Oh, yeah.
	Yeah, he was there.
	And Sir Russell Williams, I don't know if Miss Mickey has put the picture up yet, he brought me a knighting sword.
	But I mean, I kid you not, a four-foot sword.
	So you're driving around the...
	With a sword and you're carrying an unregistered sword.
	Yes, and it's sharp and it has a sheath.
	The thing must weigh five pounds.
	It's the most beautiful sword.
	And, of course, I had to re-knight everybody with the sword.
	Can you re-knight us, please?
	With a real sword?
	It was great!
	It was really, really funny.
	I don't think the Queen re-knights people, but okay.
	Well, it's just for prosperity.
	Just so you have the picture.
	For prosperity or for prosperity?
	Yeah, those.
	You have the picture.
	So you have a picture of the knight.
	And it's weird when a dude kneels down before you.
	The Queen must have a hard time with that.
	I don't think the Queen has a hard time with that at all.
	Oh, well.
	For me, it was like, whoa.
	So we will, of course, thank our Boise producers later on during the donation segment.
	But it was really great.
	I learned a couple things, John.
	I learned, number one, I learned it is very hard to get an Idaho potato in Idaho.
	Well, that's weird because when I was in Idaho, we went to a roadside stand that had Idaho potatoes.
	And the thing that was noteworthy to me was that the potatoes were so enormous that I have never seen potatoes this big.
	And I realized that probably these monster potatoes in Idaho stay in Idaho.
	Well, no.
	Exactly the opposite.
	Because they make so much more money exporting the Idaho potato...
	That they don't even...
	Restaurants have to go out of state to buy Idaho potatoes.
	Well, this has changed since I was in Idaho.
	Yeah.
	And onions as well.
	Which is about ten years ago.
	Right.
	Well, okay, so it may have changed since then, but that is the general consensus.
	Oh, no, you can't get an Idaho potato.
	But some restaurants will say, oh, yes, it's an Idaho potato, but they go out of state to buy it.
	Huh.
	How nuts is that?
	And I have to say, it is very beautiful here.
	The mountains, when you can see them, when the smoke isn't obscuring the view, which has pretty much been constant, it is extremely beautiful here.
	It's a very small city.
	It's only 250,000 people, I think, that live in Boise.
	And the vibe during the day is very quiet, laid back.
	Then at night, of course, this is a college town.
	Everyone's hammered.
	They're hammered.
	They're falling out of bars.
	There's trannies roaming the streets.
	It's pretty interesting for a red state.
	Very interesting.
	So anyway, so we do have Chris Beshears as our associate executive producer.
	His lovely wife, of course, has also put up with us.
	Lori is really taking good care of us.
	Chris, it's great to stay with Chris.
	He has a huge guest bedroom with a really big bed, which is nice.
	He also has, I think, six or seven pinball machines that he's restored.
	Oh, nice.
	Yeah.
	And of course, you know, no money in the machine.
	Just hit the red button.
	And it's been great.
	And he has them cranked up really loud, so the ones that are supposed to vibrate and send subsonic tones really do it.
	You're a pinball guy, right?
	You've been to the Pinball Museum, I think, in Vegas?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, of course.
	Of course, as one does.
	I love pinball machines.
	Yeah, so it's been great.
	It's kind of like a...
	It feels a little bit like it could be kind of Austin-y, if you will.
	A little like Austin, a little like Seattle.
	You know, these three...
	Yeah, I'm sure this...
	Yeah.
	There's some crossover there.
	Well, what's the capital of Idaho?
	Is it Boise?
	It is Boise, yes.
	So it is a capital city.
	Yes.
	And it's got to call you...
	Boise State, I guess, is the big school there.
	Yes, they have the Boise Broncos, of course, who are...
	Right, one of the great football teams.
	Well, apparently no one gave a crap about them until they started to get good.
	Then everyone's like, Yeah, man!
	Yeah, that's typical.
	That's typical.
	That's the American way.
	Yeah, that's right.
	Nothing wrong with that.
	You suck, man.
	I think that's the way to go, by the way.
	You suck, and then when you start winning, oh, I've always been a fan.
	I've always been a fan.
	I've always been a big supporter.
	I'm a huge idealist as a fair-weather fan.
	I think it's the way to go.
	Why would you root?
	I've said this before.
	I'll say it again.
	Why would you root for a bunch of losers?
	And the second thing is that they've done studies, and if you root for a team...
	And you're really into it and they lose and the team has an emotional letdown.
	The fans have the exact same emotional letdown.
	And when they win, they get a boost of adrenaline.
	The fans get the same boost of adrenaline.
	So why are you rooting for a losing cause?
	Find the winning team and just root for them.
	It's good for the health.
	It's part of your healthy news diet.
	Very good.
	So we might as well mention our one lone executive producer.
	This was a very grim week.
	Yeah, and I don't get it because you sent out a great newsletter with some really good analysis.
	It was classic John C. Dvorak, stuff that normally would go into a publication.
	Well, there's that, but the newsletter that went on Wednesday, the normal newsletter, got no interest.
	Yeah.
	Now, this is, of course, August.
	And, of course, the French are completely gone.
	Our one French listener is gone.
	I'm thinking that August may be our vacation month, even though we don't talk much about it.
	So I think everyone's just...
	I don't know if anyone's even listening to the show.
	Well, I think Chris and his brother are in the hangar.
	But they might not eat.
	They may be cutting metal.
	Like, ah, screw that curry.
	It's a stupid...
	What do you say?
	I don't know.
	It gives a crap, yeah.
	Those Republicans.
	So let's, uh...
	Let's, uh...
	Thank our one executive producer, Sir Scott Hankel.
	Oh, very nice.
	He came in.
	Sunland, California, who gave us 434.
	Oh, so he's also a 434 club member.
	We haven't had that in a while.
	Yeah, that's great.
	I'd like to get some good luck karma.
	Shout out to my wife and I in hopes of finally closing escrow on a home purchase.
	Also, keep up the good work on the best podcast in the universe.
	You've got karma.
	I would also like to thank Theis Brauers for the art on the previous episode, 433.
	Just because we're talking about the newsletter, I wanted to say something nice about you, which I found out here in Boise.
	And people should know this about JCD. Probably false information, but go ahead.
	Could be.
	So you sent out a newsletter a couple weeks ago where after a lot of back and forth, you still misspelled Miss Mickey's name.
	And you spelled it with an E instead of M-I-C-K-Y. And you said, oh no, I'm an idiot, my fault, my fault.
	Well, as it turns out, ladies and gentlemen, your buzzkill was actually protecting someone.
	Okie dokie.
	You're aware of this, John?
	No.
	So, Shana...
	Who corrects the newsletters.
	Oh yes, Shana.
	Shares around my head on a stick apparently.
	She's here in Boise and she said, you know, please stop writing John so hard because I actually messed up the change in the newsletter and it's my fault but he's been protecting me.
	And I was like...
	I'm a chivalrous guy.
	You are, John.
	I can't pronounce it, but I can say it.
	Yeah, you are.
	You're a very nice guy.
	You know, unlike what four out of five dentists think, you're actually a nice guy.
	I was like, wow, so that's pretty cool.
	So I'll give you a little in the morning for that.
	In the morning!
	That was very nice of you.
	I know it's hard.
	It's hard, isn't it, to accept something nice about you?
	Yeah, I appreciate the idea.
	All right, so clearly we do need a little more support, particularly because your donations are literally keeping the show on the road as Hot Pockets still has at least 10 days left to roll, I think.
	What are we today?
	What is the 12th?
	Nine days.
	Nine more days.
	We're going to go after Boise.
	We are going down to Salt Lake City.
	There's a huge meetup taking place in Salt Lake City.
	Did you already go through Salt Lake City?
	No, we passed by it.
	We stayed at Leighton.
	So we're up to Boise.
	And now we're going to swing around.
	And we're going to be doing a meetup on Monday, 6 p.m.
	at Justin Peck's home.
	Apparently he has some land there in Salt Lake City.
	And so it's going to be on his homestead, and you can find that at itm.im slash tour09.
	There's plenty of ways to find it.
	Also, follow Ms.
	Mickey's tweeter thing, and you'll find out about that.
	And then from there, we're going to go rushing back down, I guess, somehow to New Mexico, and then across to Austin.
	So your support for our Value for Value program is highly appreciated.
	I just want to make sure that's programmed into your brain.
	So next time you're looking at your PayPal account thinking, hey, isn't that funny?
	My subscription ended.
	Which we don't remind people about enough.
	I'm looking at the old, you know, we cut off the old, we moved all our PayPal accounts to the No Agenda Show account, even though it started in my personal account, or not a personal, but a business account I had, and I couldn't sustain it there.
	So it's two years out of date now, the old ones, right?
	So the PayPal...
	Subscriptions.
	The subscriptions that were going in there are just slowly fading because of the, you know, the people, everyone gets a new credit card every couple of years and they never renew the subscription and PayPal just kills it, the account.
	So we're down to like, we're making a net account.
	I might as well just close it.
	It's doing like $150 a month.
	I wouldn't close it for that.
	In two years, that's dropped from like a good, you know, a thousand or two things.
	Whatever it is, it's almost dead.
	Within two years, everything dies.
	It's amazing.
	So that's why we, by the way, people say, well, you're always asking for money, asking for help, asking for donations and contributions.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, it's how we live.
	There will be nothing coming in within no time at all.
	Yeah.
	And the summer's not much fun.
	No, the summer is definitely not helping.
	But okay, with the Hot Pockets Tour continues to roll, I will say that despite the donations, it is extremely satisfying to meet everybody.
	And I still miss you very, very much out here on the road.
	Well, you got my head on a stick.
	You might want to play.
	Here's a clip.
	Wait, let me just give the slaves a couple of pointers here.
	One, human resources.
	We appreciate your donations.
	For those of you who have a credit, it's an official one.
	I know Chris Beshears has an IMDB. He's going to put his associate executive producership.
	Into his IMDB. Unlike the phonies in Hollywood, we will of course vouch for you if someone ever questions you being a producer in some form of the best podcast in the universe.
	And of course, you can always do something very important, which is go out and propagate our formula.
	Our formula is this.
	We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
	New.
	World. Order.
	Chef, Blaine.
	Somebody try something new.
	I'm going to do a teaser for a story that will show up later in the show.
	You're going mainstream on me.
	Machete Redux.
	Hold on a second.
	All right.
	Machete Redux it is.
	Where do you even get a machete?
	At UCW Jensen, where do you get a machete?
	That's the tease?
	That's the tease?
	Well, I mean, it's going to take me a while to get the production value.
	Is that that comedian?
	That's a comedian, isn't it?
	That's Nancy Grace.
	Yeah, that comedian.
	Yeah, Nancy Grace who talks through her nose because apparently she's got some obstruction in her nasal passage.
	The comedian Nancy Grace.
	Exactly.
	Fantastic.
	All right.
	Let me just...
	I had a little time to do some digging.
	And first of all, of course, you even put this in the newsletter.
	Another no agenda, red book prediction comes true.
	It is now painfully obvious that neither the Democratic or the Republican Party, both the same guys, of course...
	Actually want to win the presidency and run the country during the next four years of Armageddon that we are facing.
	And can I explain a little bit of the reason?
	Yes, please do.
	And I think people should, when they read that newsletter we sent out, or the second essay, which talks about Rubio, I think that was pretty interesting.
	But anyway, there will be, I mean, this cycle that I talk about constantly, I harp on it.
	Of course, I haven't produced my little essay or book.
	It's actually going to be a book, a monograph.
	Stop promising.
	Okay, okay.
	Whatever the case is, there's going to be a huge dislocation of the economy right after this election, no matter who's in.
	And so either side really wants to be in.
	Obama will be in.
	He'll take the hit.
	He'll take one for the team.
	But then the Democrats are going to have...
	It's going to take them forever to get back in, because what's going to happen is you have an upcycle around the 2016-2017 era, and then you have a reset of the entire economy in 2020, plus possibly a war.
	Wait, a civil war?
	No, well, maybe.
	Yeah, a civil war in Europe.
	Yeah, well, obviously.
	But, I mean, here...
	I doubt it.
	So anyway, you're going to have this dislocation, and so the Republicans will get in in time for the mini-boom that takes place, and then they'll get re-elected, hopefully, because it's pretty hard to apparently unseat anybody, and then they'll go into the next reset of the economy, and then...
	It'll be so good for everyone that the Republicans won't be able to get out.
	I mean, they'll keep voting them in until we have another situation with a George Bush showing up.
	But whatever the case, I think they're trying to throw the election.
	Yeah, and so the Paul Ryan choice as vice presidential nominee candidate is to throw the election.
	He's a dud.
	I mean, he's one of these guys.
	I mean, he's a dud.
	He's a nameless, faceless, yeah, he's the guy that did the Senate budget.
	Well, hold on.
	Let me remind you of Paul Ryan for all you Republicans out there.
	Here's Paul Ryan begging.
	I want to thank our distinguished ranking member of the Finance and Services Committee for all his work he's done this week.
	A lot of us have lost a lot of sleep.
	A lot of us have looked at this situation.
	When Secretary Paulson came to us about a week ago, he gave us a three-page bill.
	By the way, he's trying to do a Kennedy here.
	Secretary Paulson came here.
	He gave us a three-page bill.
	That said, give me a blank checkbook and put $700 billion in it.
	I was offended at that time.
	And so what happened since then?
	We added 107 pages of taxpayer protection to that bill.
	Protection?
	Yeah, protection.
	This is him begging for tarp.
	But listen to the bull crap that he's spouting versus what actually happened.
	We understand the gravity of this situation.
	And we worked with our colleagues on the other side to make this bill a better bill.
	We made sure that there's upside for the taxpayers so that when this happens, when profits come to these companies, we get their stock warrants so the first person in line to get those profits is the American taxpayers so they can get their money back.
	Have you gotten your check yet, John?
	Have you seen your check?
	No, I understand they're going to raise taxes.
	We made sure that there's an insurance program that makes sure that Wall Street shares in the cost of this recovery plan.
	Wow!
	Did you hear that?
	Yeah, oh yeah.
	Did I hear the flub?
	Oh yeah.
	Yeah, Washington.
	I mean Wall Street.
	I mean Washington.
	I don't know what I'm saying.
	And we also made sure that the executives of these companies that made these bad bets don't profit from this rescue recovery plan.
	How'd that work out with all those bonuses?
	You mean like the bankers?
	Yeah, those guys.
	They cleaned up and gave themselves huge bonuses?
	Thanks, Paul Ryan.
	We cut the initial cost in half of this bill.
	Congress will have to approve the second half of this next year.
	Why do we do all of this?
	Because we're on the take and corrupt?
	Because this Wall Street crisis is quickly becoming a Main Street crisis.
	Talking point.
	It's quickly becoming a banking crisis.
	Yes.
	What does that mean?
	What does it mean, John?
	That means bankers make out like crazy, unemployment stays high, The municipal bond market is falling apart, which is the real problem, by the way.
	But back in the day, Paul Ryan, the genius who will be vice president, said this.
	Why does that matter to us?
	Why does that matter to Janesville, Wisconsin?
	If it goes the way it could go, that means credit shuts down.
	Yeah, that's pretty much happened.
	Businesses can't get money to pay their payroll, to pay their employees.
	That has pretty much happened.
	Students can't get student loans for next semester.
	I would say that's right on the money.
	People can't get car loans.
	Yes.
	Seniors may not have access to their savings.
	And we don't need them anyway.
	Are we standing at the edge of this abyss?
	No, we're in it.
	Dude, good job, Paul Ryan.
	Good job begging for tarp money, which literally went to the banker bonuses.
	And it went to their bonuses in their pockets.
	If they would have given that money to the public to pay off the bank loans, the bankers would have still gotten the money in a legitimate way and everybody would be happy.
	Real estate would be booming and everything would be working out.
	Although you can't do that because if you do something like that, it's okay.
	Welfare for the rich and free enterprise for the poor.
	So you can give the money to the bankers.
	That's okay.
	Just give them the money.
	Let them put it in their pocket.
	But you can't give it to the public because that's socialism.
	So, I think Paul Ryan, if anyone knows him from back in the...
	I bet you he was in school, he had a big key ring with a whole bunch of keys jingling, walking around like, I'm Paul.
	Well, if he was in the newer generation, he'd probably be one of those guys who has a chain on his wallet.
	They chain their wallet to their pants.
	So, here's LeBishFat Candy Crowley, our Rubenesque reporter.
	For some reason, I just really do like her.
	And she sets the meme for the next, let me see, one, two, three, four months that we're going to have to hear.
	All they have to do at Obama re-elect is open up the files, because this debate has already happened.
	They just bring it back.
	It goes.
	It is what they talk about.
	But I think the other thing that's worth pointing out is not every Republican has signed on to this kind of...
	I mean, they will publicly, but there is some trepidation.
	They're afraid.
	That this might be, looks a little bit like some sort of Ticket Death Wish.
	Oh, yes.
	Listen to No Agenda Much?
	She's on the same meme we are.
	Listen to No Agenda Much?
	Ticket Death Wish.
	Ticket Death Wish, everybody.
	So, there was one funny thing that, of course, will be played over and over and over again.
	I haven't been watching much television, but, of course, here is Mitt Romney announcing Paul Ryan with the classic mistake.
	Joe.
	In welcoming the next president of the United States, Paul Ryan.
	What an idiot!
	What an idiot!
	But then I go back and listen to President Obama.
	So let me introduce to you the next president, the next vice president of the United States of America.
	Joe Biden!
	So he corrected himself in the same sentence, but isn't it interesting that they both make the same mistake?
	Is this like an actor's block or something?
	I have no idea.
	Isn't that interesting?
	That's the clip of the day right there.
	Really?
	Yeah.
	Oh, well, that's so kind of you.
	Hold on a second.
	Let me give myself that award.
	Oops.
	Well, it kind of sucks when I can't find the clip of the day.
	It should be at the ready.
	The big red button.
	Clip of the day.
	No, backing that up with the Obama botch is perfect.
	Yeah, that's weird.
	So I think it's because, and of course these guys are all actors, I think it's because it is such a staple line to say, Ladies and gentlemen, I present you the next president of the United States of America!
	That they just confuse that line.
	You know, they've been practicing it in acting school.
	And that was amazing to me.
	It's like, wow, that's pretty interesting that they both make the same flow.
	Now, Romney came back and corrected it later.
	And Obama did it in the same sentence.
	But it's, I don't know.
	It's just like, wow.
	Yeah, no, that's very strange.
	Who knows what these guys are doing?
	And he's not even the official nominee yet.
	I know, you know, the convention can reject him.
	They won't because they're a bunch of lapdogs.
	The fact that we don't even have a convention anymore is idiotic.
	It's just a waste of time.
	In fact, you watch, the networks are going to start, they're not even going to show it.
	They're going to just push it off to one of their kids.
	What's the great thing about, if you're NBC, you have a cable company, MSNBC, put it there.
	You know, that's all news on MSNBC or CNBC. Put it there, we'll put it there.
	We're not going to run it against, you know, instead we're going to run the new normal.
	You don't want to bump that.
	Right.
	But of course, this is well-timed, this announcement.
	This is a media announcement, obviously.
	We've got the dog days of summer.
	We've got nothing to talk about.
	It's like we're kind of done with terror.
	Please do an announcement so we can not talk about anything else at all, whatsoever.
	Well, the Olympics, you talk about that.
	Yeah.
	That's what they're talking about.
	They're making a big set.
	NBC, Olympics, Olympics, Olympics.
	You watch the Brian Williams.
	Half this broadcast is about the Olympics.
	BBC, half the broadcast is about the Olympics because the Brits have won more gold medals than they have for a while because it's in their backyard.
	Yeah.
	And, you know, the games are rigged.
	You're always going to have your home country win a lot of medals.
	I don't have audio of it, but the...
	Remember the word, the meme that you found at the London Olympics, what they were all saying?
	No.
	It's fabulous!
	Oh, it's fabulous.
	It's fabulous.
	So the IOC chief, Jacques Rocha, who's a Belgian, I guess the closing ceremony is tonight, and he said, the games in London have been absolutely fabulous!
	And they refreshed the Olympic movement.
	Is that what he says?
	Yeah.
	Refresh?
	Refresh the Olympic movement.
	It's not a movement.
	Yeah, it is.
	It's a movement, John.
	It's a big movement.
	It's a movement, alright.
	A bowel movement.
	And the UK will continue to surf the wave and invest in sport.
	Right.
	Right.
	Yeah.
	Short picture of that.
	No, but there is some really big news.
	And it turns out there was a lawsuit filed in May against Lucy Napolitano.
	Have you heard about this lawsuit?
	Sexual harassment.
	A bunch of lesbian supervisors are making men's lives miserable in the Homeland Security Department, or TSA, whoever it is, whatever group.
	Yeah, Department of Homeland Security.
	And I guess it's one of Lucy's...
	One of her girlfriends.
	It was like somebody who's, you know...
	That's the insinuation.
	And if you look at the pictures of her...
	More than insinuation.
	Yeah, if you look at the pictures of these two, you're kind of like...
	Well, anyway, so I got a copy of the lawsuit, and I thought we'd just run through a couple things just to have a little chuckle.
	So the plaintiff is James T. Hayes, Jr.
	And this was no slouch in Department of Homeland Security.
	In fact, in 2008, he oversaw a $1 billion budget with 7,000 people.
	Then he moved up and his budget grew to $2.5 billion.
	So I'd say that this is a pretty serious guy.
	The allegations are that in February 2009, Lucy Napolitano brought in Dora Schriro and Suzanne Barr.
	And they started working at ICE headquarters in Washington, and essentially they started...
	It's a very classic move, by the way.
	You have to start copying them on memos, then they're attending the meetings, and then all of a sudden you're not on the memo list.
	You're out and they're out.
	Exactly.
	So, just a couple points from...
	These are allegations, of course, because this is a pending lawsuit.
	Yeah, it's definitely not anything that we know is true.
	No, we don't know it's true.
	But we suspect it is.
	Yeah, and I like...
	Look, I'm just reading from the court documents.
	Point 32.
	Schreiro was not qualified for the position plaintiff had because of her lack of federal law enforcement experience.
	Schreiro did have experience, however, working with Secretary Napolitano.
	Ha!
	It's a nice snide way of saying it, isn't it?
	Point 34.
	Schwiro enjoyed a long-standing relationship with the secretary.
	So essentially she is hiring her buddy.
	This is unbelievable.
	Well, wait until you hear the rest.
	Point 35.
	Plaintiff believed he was being replaced in his duties because of this relationship and because he was not female.
	Which, of course, is an egregious breach of all types of rules.
	Point 43, in around April and May 2009, Barr moved the entire contents of the offices of three male employees, including nameplates, computers, and telephones, to the men's bathroom at ICE headquarters.
	I love it.
	Which is followed up here.
	No sexual code violations with that move.
	Well, here it is.
	Barr also created a frat house type atmosphere that is targeted to humiliate and intimidate male employees.
	Barr humiliated another male employee by calling that male employee in his hotel room and screaming at him that she wanted, quote, his cock in the back of her throat.
	This is in the lawsuit.
	I mean, you can't make this up.
	Then Barr covertly took an ice BlackBerry device assigned to a male special agent in charge and sent a BlackBerry messenger message to his female supervisor indicating that the male employee had a crush on the female supervisor and fantasized about her.
	So basically sending false messages.
	Like, oh, I'm hot for you, baby.
	And I presume to get him kicked out on some kind of sexual harassment.
	Right, setting him up.
	Further, Barr promoted otherwise rewarded those male employees who would play along with their sexually charged games, including the three male employees whose offices were relocated to the men's bathroom at ICE headquarters.
	So, this is just, if this is true, this is crazy.
	I mean, that's really quite wrong.
	There was something that involved some horrible lesbian in Oakland who wanted to get rid of...
	And by the way, not all lesbians are horrible.
	Let's just be very clear.
	No, I know.
	I'm specifically saying a horrible lesbian, not a nice lesbian.
	But there was some horrible lesbian in Oakland who had tried to get rid of some men in some department.
	What she did was plan a bunch of child porn on the computers.
	Oh, wow.
	It became a big scandal.
	I guess they found some date codes or something to get the guy off the hook, but this guy was going to do a hard time.
	I mean, some of these women, like the Napolitano types, they're ruthless.
	It sounds like this trio of horrible lesbians, let's say, as opposed to...
	Nice lesbians.
	I don't know how Obama can put up with it, but if you think about it, Obama may be a lesbian.
	He's supposedly the first gay president.
	He's surrounded by women.
	He's got daughters.
	He's got his wife.
	And he's got his mother-in-law living in the White House.
	And Valerie Jarrett telling him what to do.
	I don't know if he has any male influences whatsoever.
	So Janet Napolitano, she probably tells him what to do too.
	Who knows?
	I don't know.
	It just seems unhealthy, the whole environment.
	I could be wrong.
	So the guy's actually not asking for much, though.
	That's what I find surprising and suspicious.
	He's basically asking for a quick payoff.
	Plaintiff seeks the following relief.
	$200,000 in compensatory damages for the losses he suffered due to the discriminatory directed reassignment without the compensation given to other similarly situated employees.
	Compensatory damages in the amount of $135,000 as a result of lost wages due to the discriminatory behavior.
	Equitable relief in the form of a directed retirement with front pay to compensate him for loss of reputation he suffered.
	And that could be open-ended, I guess.
	That could be a lot of money.
	And an order directing defendants to pay reasonable attorney fees and costs of this litigation and e. such other and further relief as the court may deem just.
	So, yeah, that could be open-ended, but he's not really saying, you know, hey...
	Yeah, well, it could also be the lawyer saying, look, these cases with men complaining about women harassing them will really never go anywhere because it's just not what the court expects to hear.
	So we don't want to ask for too much because it's going to look like a little...
	Who knows?
	I mean, the lawyer could be the problem.
	We don't know.
	I will say, though, it is extremely important because if you just replace...
	Men for women in this context, it would be a huge scandal.
	It would be all over the news.
	It would be discussed incessantly.
	And it would be battered down to the last fact in all kinds of congressional and senatorial hearings.
	And now the shoe's on the other foot, so to speak.
	I don't know if it's going to be, if they're going to make such a big deal out of it, but I feel...
	Which is what the lawyer probably told him, you know, you're not going to get a lot of sympathy for this.
	Because, you know, when guys are discriminated against, it's the same thing with, you know, there is a lot of domestic violence where guys get beat up.
	You don't hear about it, but it really does happen.
	Oh yeah, it happens a lot with women, they'll roll the battle axe with a rolling pin, beating the crap out of her husband.
	It's not uncommon.
	But it's like, you know, as well as the weaker sex, you know, and if she can beat some guy up, that's good for her.
	I mean, it's really, the stereotypes are horrible.
	By the way, I want to mention something, since you dropped a bomb in a couple of them, actually, a couple of filthy remarks.
	I did?
	Yeah, you cussed there somewhere, so it's a couple times.
	Oh, sorry.
	But I want to bring something up.
	Jason Price, one of our Canadian producers, came up with this idea.
	He says that he has a suggestion from a comment you read a few weeks ago.
	To those who do not like the colorful metaphors, the show is open source.
	So suggest on the next show that someone with enough time and interest...
	Like one of our people that can't let the seven-year-old listen to the show.
	Take it and bleep it out.
	There you go.
	Just require a request that if a full cut is needed, that any credits or information is re-read back into it by whomever is editing it.
	That's never going to happen.
	It's just going to be a couple of bleeps here and there.
	And you can have the clean No Agenda show.
	There are people that cannot listen to the show because once in a while we drop an F-bomb or do something that's lewd.
	It's just part of our casual conversation since there's two of us just chatting to each other.
	It is how people talk normally, by the way.
	Well, they don't necessarily...
	If you listen to the early shows, I don't know that many people that were cussing as much as you did.
	Well, I have Tourette's.
	I have an excuse.
	That's true.
	And so it's absolutely true.
	And yes, it is an open source show.
	As long as you don't take the donation, you don't edit the show.
	I mean, that's what we ask.
	I mean, you could, but we don't.
	Preferably not.
	Somebody could take the show and bleep it out, put it on their own server as the bleeped version.
	And then, you know, all the people that don't like the way, you know, they can't or they want their kids to hear a bad word or whatever.
	There you go.
	I think this is a great idea.
	I told Price that.
	I said, this is a great idea.
	The bleeped version.
	But you know what?
	It's kind of like...
	Here's how the...
	So we have now done 434 shows.
	And if you calculate how many hours that is, it's probably quite a lot.
	And that's just the broadcast time, not the preparatory time.
	Yeah, it's a lot.
	So we have these great initiatives like readnoagenda.com, where people are going to transcribe.
	And I promote it every single week, and the show notes has a link.
	When's the last one that was fully transcribed?
	20 episodes ago?
	Yeah, not going to happen.
	That's work, though.
	You're listening to the show, and you're recording it while you're listening, and you bleep, bleep, bleep, bleep.
	I mean, you're going to listen to the show anyway, if you're that into the show.
	And you could bleep it.
	I don't think there would be as much work to bleep the show, two hours total work, or two and a half, as it would to transcribe two and a half hours.
	That's a lot of transcribing, and nobody wants to do that.
	Well, there you go.
	How successful are we?
	Anyway, just a suggestion.
	Like I said, maybe you're right.
	Maybe nobody will pick up the ball on this.
	But again, if that's the case, they're the ones complaining.
	It's not that hard to fix, but we're not fixing it.
	So, well, while we're on lewd and lascivious, finally, and again, something that was pretty much predicted on the show, turns out the federal officials have launched an investigation into a possible pedo-bear ring involving disgraced former Penn State defensive coordinator and convicted child molester Jerry Sandusky Yeah, you called that a mile away.
	Right?
	Right from the get-go you said there was a ring up there.
	But here's the interesting thing.
	This news story broke.
	There has to be a ring or this wouldn't have happened the way it did.
	Radar Online broke this.
	This is an entertainment website.
	So now I'm really convinced something's going on.
	Because, you know, these guys at the entertainment gossip websites, they have way deeper connections into Hollywood and behavior that may be associated with that.
	So according to Radar Online, both the FBI and a criminal investigative division of the Postal Service...
	Which is, I think, also interesting because they are trying to take the Postal Service down.
	And why would the Postal Service be involved other than mail fraud or a RICO case or committing some crime through the mail?
	Through the mail, which they'd like to get rid of so the criminals could not have to deal with these laws.
	Yep.
	So I found it very interesting that the USPS is involved in this.
	They are investigating allegations Sandursky shared boys with other men connected to Penn State as part of a child sex ring, which also, of course, included the Second Mile Foundation.
	Exactly what we said.
	Exactly what we said.
	It's a fractal.
	It has to be that.
	It makes me sick.
	It's a fractal.
	A fractal of what?
	A fractal of perversion.
	I don't know.
	It's just a fractal.
	It's a fractal of what was going on in Holland that you got your radio station burnt to the ground for.
	Thank you very much.
	There's a website now for that guy.
	That's the highest legal government official.
	His name is Joris Demink.
	There's now a website, an English website, which I'm happy that someone's finally done that.
	It's called ArrestDemmink.com.
	So ArrestDemmink.com.
	I'm not going to type it.
	It'll stop the connection.
	Yeah, don't do it.
	Because there's lots of video.
	ArrestDemmink.com.
	And when I touched on that case, just to remind everybody...
	Not only did I get thrown off the radio in Holland, but the whole station was financing pulled, license pulled.
	Burnt to the ground.
	They shut him down.
	They burnt it to the ground.
	Nothing but ashes.
	Good work.
	Yeah.
	So, of course, they can't burn us to the ground.
	No, we just moved to a different house.
	Yeah.
	Hey, citizen.
	Stop talking about the Pinot Bear.
	Anyway, that's my...
	So you can bleep that out of the show if you don't want your children to be vigilant for crazy people.
	So apparently, to change gears here, the only people reporting on this is a Kennedy French VanCat.
	Yeah.
	About the Syrian war.
	Which you now spell V-A-N-C-A-T. Yeah.
	Great.
	It's like it may be turning in the wrong direction from the way Hillary wants it to go.
	Oh, really?
	Shall we listen to that?
	Yeah, listen to this.
	Today, the Free Syrian Army pulled out of the front-line Salahdin neighbourhood, calling it a tactical retreat.
	Fighting's been raging in Syria's economic hub for more than two weeks now.
	Several hundred people have been killed there.
	Armed with Kalashnikovs and other light weapons, the rebels' fight to keep control of Salahuddin was always going to be a struggle in the face of the full might of the Syrian army.
	The video uploaded on Thursday seems to show artillery shells exploding near rebel positions.
	They've also come under attack from aircraft.
	Despite their disadvantages, the rebels held out for several weeks, but now commanders are saying they've withdrawn from the Salah Hadin neighborhood.
	The Free Syrian Army still claims to hold on to other areas, including Saif al-Dawla and Sukhari, but the Guardian's Martin Chilov in Aleppo told Frantz van Katt the withdrawal will inevitably be seen as a setback.
	Well, the rebels are claiming that the withdrawal from Salah Adin is tactical.
	I would dispute that.
	It was a stronghold.
	It was very, very important to them.
	They'd almost defined it as their Alamo in many ways.
	So being forced to leave is something which wouldn't sit easily with them, I would imagine.
	The government is also launching raids outside the city.
	In Talrafat, a village some 40 kilometers north of Aleppo, a school and homes were targeted by the Syrian Air Force, killing at least six people from the same family.
	Despite the recent show of force by the government, many Syrian refugees in Turkey hope the rebels can still fight back.
	The Free Syrian Army has withdrawn just for a while, but then they will carry on.
	They're waiting for the regime forces to press forward.
	And then they'll attack again.
	While the rebels may remain optimistic, they have already largely been forced out of Damascus.
	If they also have to withdraw from Syria's second city, their prospects of overthrowing the government of Bashar al-Assad may begin to dwindle.
	This is very interesting, John, because this to me means that Total Oil, France, has no dog in this hunt.
	No, obviously.
	Because they're actually reporting honestly about what's going on.
	Yeah.
	And the American media is not telling this story.
	Have you heard this on American media?
	No.
	Well, even worse, quite the opposite.
	Quite the opposite.
	Because, of course, Lucifer clippity-clop Hillary Clinton was in Istanbul.
	Just the other day.
	And I have a few clips of what she was saying and what the...
	Well, actually, let's make sure we play her jingle.
	So here's Canadians, the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation, who bring in the UK, because, of course, BP has got to have a stake in this.
	Otherwise, why would the UK be in it?
	So we have some new memes here, and of course we have to go towards the seventh of our seven countries, as predicted by General Wesley Clark, we still need to shore up Lebanon.
	So here's the meme starting to turn.
	Britain, too, stressed the importance of humanitarian aid, committing more than $7 million for medical supplies, communication tools, and body armor for those not directly involved in the fighting.
	Body armor, very interesting.
	The risk of doing nothing is we see more butchery in Aleppo.
	Butchery!
	John, I hear butchery!
	Butchery!
	Butchery!
	Are they butchering people now?
	Is that...
	They're using a machete.
	They're hanging them up.
	Oh, tees.
	More butchery in Damascus.
	Butchery!
	Butchery!
	That is what is happening.
	In Washington, more sanctions against the regime and its allies, including Hezbollah.
	The U.S. says the Lebanon-based militant group has provided training, logistical support, and advice to the Assad regime.
	We are committed.
	To take every step we can to isolate the regime, starve it of resources to finance its brutal crackdown on the Syrian people.
	All the sanctions.
	That's spokeshole Carney.
	Pretty strong words, huh?
	Starving it.
	...talk and promises of aid haven't stopped the bloodshed in Syria, but politicians continue to try. The U.S. Secretary of State, Hillary Clinton, will be in Turkey tomorrow meeting with members of the Syrian opposition. And Canada's foreign affairs minister will travel to a refugee camp in Jordan. Okay, so we've got those guys on board, and Lucifer has to roll out the next part of the script.
	So now, we're already setting up Lebanon.
	Hold on a second.
	Hello, citizens of Lebanon.
	Be prepared.
	You are next.
	So that's coming.
	But first we have to show everyone where the line is.
	What's the line going to be?
	What line has to be crossed?
	What will happen?
	What will really make it all happen?
	Regarding the...
	The planning, what the...
	The planning.
	She's so brazen.
	We're planning this.
	We're just getting planning.
	The minister and I agreed to today was to have very intensive operational planning.
	We have been closely coordinating over the course of this conflict.
	But now we need to get into the real details of...
	Of how we kill people.
	...such operational planning.
	And it needs to be across both of our governments.
	Certainly our two ministries are coordinating much of it, but our intelligence services, our military have very important responsibilities and roles to play.
	If anyone comes to you and says there's a working group, run away.
	And both the minister and I saw eye to eye on the many tasks that are ahead of us and the kinds of contingencies that we have to plan for, including the one you mentioned in the horrible event that chemical weapons were used and everyone has made it clear to the Syrian regime that's a red line for the world.
	What would that mean in terms of Which would be a no-fly zone, obviously.
	So there you go.
	The world would recognize a red line if chemical weapons are used.
	And of course, we already...
	By the way, you can hear that I am now under attack.
	You hear the airplanes?
	Yeah.
	Smiled.
	Well, I have one last clip on this, which is the British foreign minister comes out, or one of their representatives from the British government comes out.
	And who is the British foreign minister?
	I don't have his name.
	Whatever the case, it's just another British blowhard that's, you know, from the Cameron regime.
	And this is again – this is on the BBC and this is another mention of the $7 million, which seems like a paltry amount of money.
	And a reiteration that they're not going to give them any guns, which is – I don't know what the – if they want these rebels to win.
	I think they're on the fence about whether or not they think they can actually pull it off and I think they're just kind of pulling back – Listen to this.
	Britain is dismayed by the endless conflict in Syria and wants to help the outgunned rebels to win without actually arming them.
	So the opposition group most on the front line, the Free Syrian Army, will get the lion's share of extra British help, including satellite phones, power generators, field dressings, possibly even body armour, but not guns.
	I think it's very important for us to help prepare for the day after Assad.
	And so part of our job is to work with people who might be in a position of authority in Syria in the future, because we want that future Syria to be a plural democratic society.
	One that is very favourable to our oil and gas industries, William Haig, Foreign Minister for Gidmore Nation Near East.
	Yeah, that's who it is.
	So here's my prediction.
	This thing is not working out the way they'd hoped.
	In fact, if you listen to enough of the reports, they're talking about it could go on for two or three years.
	In other words, quagmire, as it were.
	And so the British aren't giving guns, and we haven't done the no-flies, and we don't know how to pull it off.
	Because the Russians and the Chinese keep making us think about it.
	So I think they're going to drone Assad.
	You mean a surgical strike?
	I think they're going to find some way to kill him.
	And then, dah, dah, you can do whatever you need.
	Now, here's the question.
	Would it be a strike, a drone strike, that we claim victory for?
	Or will it be some kind of suicide attempt to some hero who will go in and kill him?
	What do you think?
	I think it's going to be, as much as it will hurt Lucifer for not being able to take credit, I think it will have to be the latter.
	It will have to be, you know, there was a terrorist explosion, he was killed, he was toppled.
	Yeah, some guy with some suicide bomber.
	Yeah.
	And, uh, but they, but then, but they will have to have it ready because that is, you know, because then, you know, who's gonna, who's gonna, what puppet is gonna jump in place, right?
	Right.
	Yeah, it has to all be set up in advance.
	So who could that be?
	It seems to me the way they're back, the way they're handling this so far is they can't really arm these other idiots.
	And they, uh...
	You mean the terrorists?
	The Free Syrian Army terrorists, we don't know who they are.
	Well, we do.
	The United Nations has actually, I have a report here.
	Oh, I'm sure they have it nailed.
	They have designated the Free Syrian Army as an affiliate of Al-Qaeda.
	Oh, okay.
	Well, that's good to know.
	That's probably why we can't arm them.
	Someone at the website over there at UN.org is not on board with the program.
	Apparently not.
	You published too soon.
	Yeah, you can't do that.
	So now we can't give them guns because if they're affiliated...
	Here's a thought, John.
	Here's a thought.
	So they're just going to have to kill Assad directly.
	This is going to be within the next few months.
	I got a thought.
	So the PKK is also being brought into this.
	Let's listen to what Hillary has to say about the PKK, because maybe we can find a solution there.
	It's one thing to talk about all kinds of potential actions, but you cannot make reasoned decisions without doing intense analysis and operational planning.
	We worry about terrorists, PKK, Al-Qaeda, and others taking advantage of the legitimate fight of the Syrian people for their freedom to use Syria to promote their own agendas.
	So maybe it's a PKK terrorist attempt.
	That would be better.
	Right?
	Because then they could immediately go and say, oh, we can't have PKK running the show because, of course, Turkey hates the PKK. And then they would have legitimate reason to go in and drone the PKK and take over and then put in some kind of dude.
	Turkey would agree to that.
	The PKK is the Kurdistanis, and they're trying to create a nation called Kurdistan, which nobody seems to want to do, but which would be part of, I think, Iraq and Turkey, and there's a big chunk of land where they all are, and they have their own oil.
	Ah, that's a problem.
	Problematic people with their own oil.
	But they're really tight with us.
	The PKK? Generally speaking, they were.
	I thought that they were because we're really tight with the Kurds.
	Well, not according to what I just heard.
	Well, no, it sounds like they're not.
	You're right.
	Let me, uh...
	It's the Communist Party of Kurdistan.
	See what we got.
	It's the Kurdistan Workers' Party.
	Yeah, it's the Communist Party.
	Okay, they're not...
	We're in with the Kurds, but not with these particular Kurds.
	No, they're listed as a terrorist organization by the United States, the European Union, and NATO, as well as Turkey, of course.
	Marxist, Leninist, communist, Kurdish nationalism.
	Drug trafficking.
	Oh, well, they've got our drug business, too.
	We've got to take that.
	We've got to take that back.
	Oh, yeah, that's no good.
	Okay, so they're bad guys by our standards.
	They've got a lot of nice flags, though.
	Nice flag.
	It'll be such a shame when the flags are all gone.
	Following up on the Sikh shooting, as of course more and more information now is being propagated, this is where the lies start.
	Remember, we had an eyewitness right there on Reuters or Associated Press, which of course is where all the lies start, but even they mess up, saying there were four shooters, four, count them, four, But we may never be able to actually verify that for something, for a very interesting reason.
	Here is a report from our National Treasure, NPR. There are some new developments in the case of the Wisconsin man who opened fire on a Sikh temple last Sunday.
	What's his name again?
	That's a good question.
	The man at the center of the attack is a 40-year-old Army veteran named Wade Michael Page.
	Remember, it's Wade Michael Page, Army veteran.
	Paige killed six people.
	Not a deranged lunatic.
	No, no.
	Army veteran, just so you know.
	Army veteran.
	Please be aware of all Army veterans.
	...let the temple and wounded three others, including a police officer.
	Paige himself died at the scene.
	One reason why the FBI and local police are having to piece together clues to his motive...
	They think it may have had something to do with Wade Page's ties to the white power movement.
	The FBI held a press conference this hour to clarify what they do and do not know.
	NPR's Dina Temple Rastin is here with the latest.
	Good morning.
	Good morning.
	And what did the FBI have to say this morning?
	Well, Teresa Carlson is the special agent in charge of the FBI in the Milwaukee field office.
	And she said that they'd already conducted hundreds of interviews since Sunday.
	And just to give you the scope of this, they've issued almost 200 federal subpoenas and 101 leads are pending as of this morning.
	So this is a really big investigation.
	And they have not clearly defined a motive at this point.
	There was no video in the temple itself.
	Apparently their surveillance camera wasn't on.
	No!
	But did you hear how she said it?
	Did you hear the voice or intonation, how it went up?
	So this whole report is like, yes, I'm very serious here, I'm NPR, I'm talking about 200 subpoenas, 101 people, but apparently the video surveillance cameras weren't on?
	To find a motive at this point.
	There was no video in the temple itself, apparently their surveillance camera wasn't on?
	Apparently, what is that?
	I don't know.
	Apparently the video surveillance camera wasn't on?
	I don't know.
	Maybe she's flabbergasted.
	I have no idea.
	And we understand for the first time...
	And she goes right back.
	...that Paige was not shot to death by a police officer, but died as a result of a self-inflicted wound.
	He shot himself in the head.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Here's what...
	You know, I'm imagining because of the four guys, supposedly, that came in.
	I think there was an assassination of somebody.
	Oh, true.
	I think this was...
	But I don't know who.
	I mean, I think that one guy, the lead, or there's somebody there that they had to kill.
	We'll never know because...
	They brought Paige in with them.
	He's like tied up.
	This is kind of my imaginary scene.
	These three guys come and find the guy they're going to kill.
	They got a cop with him.
	And they say, okay, oh, there he is.
	And they shoot the guy, the guy they have to kill.
	And then they...
	Cut, page loses, and then the cop drills him, bang, bang, bang, and he says, you didn't kill the guy, and another one of the three shoots the guy in the head, so I think he's done, and then they leave.
	I mean, this is just, I think, as a scenario in a movie.
	That's the way I can imagine something like that happening, if it was an assassination.
	Well, apparently...
	Meanwhile, Paige, like they said in the clip that we had before, that he's a patsy.
	For some reason, they had to, you know, he wasn't...
	I don't know what the deal is.
	Who knows?
	We don't know the story.
	We have no clue, and we're not getting any clues.
	And we'll never know.
	It's done.
	And we'll never know, because apparently the video surveillance cameras weren't on?
	Yeah, the whole thing is just, you know, the person went on.
	Because the guys did their homework and cut the cable, and whatever happened, happened.
	We have no idea.
	We'll never know.
	Let's go move on.
	Nothing to see here.
	All we know is that he was an Army veteran and his white power is all over the military.
	You better get rid of those guys.
	Drones are better.
	You can't have guys flying planes because they could be white power.
	So I got a note from one of our producers who says, I have to remain anonymous, but there's something you need to look into, which I looked into and, of course, could not find really anything other than the fact that James Holm, who for some reason they called him the Joker, which of course is an insult to the Joker whose hair is green.
	But where did James Holm, this is the Aurora shooter, where did he work and what color was his hair?
	He worked at McDonald's.
	And his hair was very similar to that of Ronald McDonald.
	And according to this producer, there's something hiding there.
	Maybe it was a Ronald McDonald.
	Yeah, but why do they immediately call him a Joker and not a Ronald McDonald?
	Well...
	That meme was changed very, very quickly.
	Well, obviously, because they don't want to...
	McDonald's pays a lot of money to media outlets.
	And they don't want to be associated with this.
	And somebody made a phone call.
	Hey, what are you doing?
	I heard there's...
	You're going to mention...
	No, no, no, no.
	You're not mentioning us ever.
	So here is a piece of audio from a YouTube video of James Holm presenting what he is studying, what he's about to go study in college.
	Have you seen this video?
	It's very, very entertaining.
	Hit it.
	All right, our next speaker is James Holm.
	By the way, it's Holm, not Holmes, but Holm.
	What school did you graduate from?
	Westview High School?
	He just graduated from Westview High School and will be attending the University of California, Riverside.
	He will be majoring in neuroscience.
	His goals are to become a researcher and to make scientific discoveries.
	That's a good start.
	In personal life, he enjoys playing soccer and strategy games, and his dream is to own a Slurpee machine.
	These kids have been fun to work with this summer.
	Now, listen to what he's into.
	Well, the lab I work in is the Computational Neurobiology Lab, or CNL for short.
	CNL is very computer-oriented.
	Basically, everybody who works in CNL does programming of some sort.
	One division of the lab, called M-Cell, does mathematical models of the cell, such as that picture there.
	There's also computer simulations of hippocampal functions and neural network firings.
	And the knowledge that's gained is then made available to the public and the scientific community through the web.
	My mentor, John Jacobson, who works in CNL, is a philosophical type of guy.
	He's interested in how we perceive reality, specifically graphene perception.
	And graphemes are basically just letters of the alphabet.
	And he wants to know how graphemes are mediated in spatial frequency channels.
	He also studies subjective experience, which is what takes place inside the mind as opposed to the external world.
	So, that's interesting.
	How reality is perceived, how your neural network in your brain fires.
	The guy was into some pretty deep crap there.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Well, the theory is that he went bipolar or schizophrenic, which is about the age it happens.
	It usually happens in your early 20s.
	And that explains the whole thing, and we're done.
	Okay, so you just go nuts and that's it?
	I'm just saying.
	That's what they're trying to sell us.
	Well, I haven't heard this anywhere.
	I haven't heard anyone try and sell us this.
	I've heard it.
	Where?
	Well, now that you mention, I thought everyone heard this, that he was schizophrenic, and he flipped.
	I have not heard this at all.
	I've only heard, you know, he's just insane.
	I haven't heard anything about what he was studying.
	Oh, no, I never heard that.
	Oh, yeah, actually, I heard that, too.
	I didn't hear all the details in the way he had described it, but I heard most of that.
	It's not new.
	I'm going to look in this professor of his and see what's going on with him.
	This sounds like a DARPA MKUltra project to me.
	There you go.
	Meanwhile, of course, we all have to be very, very afraid.
	Another gun scare at a showing of the new Batman movie.
	Boo!
	In New Haven, Connecticut, police say a man brought a loaded gun to watch the Dark Knight Rises.
	The suspect, who's a lawyer, says he did nothing wrong and brought the gun for protection.
	He has a state permit to carry a weapon.
	Movie goers alerted police after seeing the gun in a holster.
	The man was charged for breach of peace and interfering with police.
	What did he do?
	He didn't do anything.
	Breach of peace.
	Smoking on the street.
	Don't bring your gun in for protection, slave.
	Please.
	Shut, slave.
	Yeah.
	Scared.
	We're all afraid.
	Oh, somebody's got a gun.
	Come on, man.
	Roll out the machete now.
	I'm ready for it.
	Can we do the machete?
	Here's the story, which is, yes, the other machete.
	It says, where do you get a machete is the clip.
	Now, you don't like guns?
	Well, let's have this for a crime.
	This happened just in the Bay Area recently.
	Police say a California man hacked up his live-in girlfriend of 10 years with a 2 1⁄2 foot long machete.
	When officers arrived at the suspect's house, they found a 52-year-old woman dead on the kitchen floor.
	Cops found the body of his girlfriend face down in their kitchen.
	Cover the weapon near the neighbor's home, a couple doors down.
	Crime tape and homicide investigators are an unusual sight in this quiet city.
	So severe that Evangeline's skull had been fractured by multiple hacking wounds to her brain.
	They knew each other, they'd been together for a period of time, and this tragic, this is just, they had a fight, and it ended like this.
	Torturing his girlfriend.
	We're pretty confident to murder.
	We're also confident that we have the suspect who recovered the weapon near the neighbor's home a couple doors down.
	This is definitely a case of they knew each other.
	They've been together for a period of time.
	And this tragedy, they had a fight and it ended like this.
	He swears that he is innocent.
	But if not him, then who?
	According to police, the victim in this case, a mother, Evangeline DeVera, was hacked to death with a two-and-a-half-foot machete.
	Where do you even get a machete?
	At UCW Jensen, where do you get a machete?
	I love the sound effects in this.
	And this, by the way...
	Yeah, it's the hacking sound.
	Wait a minute.
	Nancy Grace, is she not on HLN? Is that not a CNN network?
	She's on Headline News, right?
	It's a CNN network.
	I mean, the whole time it's like...
	Yes, well, this is...
	Where do you even get a machete?
	And by the way...
	Face down!
	Killed her!
	Killed her!
	What?
	I know.
	Did she ever get out of the house?
	You can buy a machete.
	Within walking distance at any hardware store.
	I've got a sword.
	Yeah, and you've got a sword.
	I'm telling you.
	But this is where, you know, no guns?
	We're a violent country.
	No guns?
	We'll just hack you to death with a machete.
	I think the guns are a little, you know, more efficient.
	It doesn't make such a mess.
	Apparently hacked her arms off and then hacked her hands off and hacked her in the brain.
	This guy's like 54.
	Yeah.
	It's an old man, you know, hacking away on his girlfriend.
	Very nice.
	Very nice.
	I'm going to show my salute by donating to No Agenda.
	Imagine all the people who could do that.
	Oh yeah, that'd be fab.
	Yeah, on No Agenda.
	Where do you get a machete?
	In the morning.
	Well, there's no machetes in Fort Lauderdale, Florida, where Michael Tannis sent us $139.38 in the morning from Fort Lauderdale.
	I'd like to be deduced by making a double $69.69 donation to keep the $69.69.
	I'm going to talk about that in a minute.
	Okay.
	Because Sir Snakes...
	Pea Snakes.
	Pea Snakes in our Holland night...
	Actually got a 6969 donation in before the last show.
	Oh, please.
	I'm not buying this.
	You're just trying to save your lucky 69.
	What's on the streak?
	I'm telling you.
	Really?
	So the streak is not broken?
	Is that what you're telling me?
	I'm saying it's not broken.
	All right.
	Let's continue with...
	So that's one donation to the show.
	I support you guys, blah, blah, blah.
	Right, to buy as many clips as we want.
	I don't want you guys to give me the other 69, 69 as an extra clip, whatever.
	I'd like to de-douche my friend, Dr.
	C.W. Daly, who introduced myself and Dr.
	H. Diosarin, Diosarin, I don't know, to this show over three years ago.
	Wow.
	I would also like a Huntsman ITM kid saying, shut up, slave combo, so that I can use it as a ringtone.
	Well, let's do that right now.
	Huntsman, in the morning, shut up, slave?
	Is that what he wants?
	Yeah.
	Okay, be quiet then.
	So here comes your ringtone.
	Shut up, slave!
	In the morning!
	Tight.
	Yeah, I think you wanted the other way.
	That's fine.
	I think that's a good ringtone right there.
	Oh, and by the way, my sister just came back from a trip to Haiti, and she says that it is being brought back like nobody's business.
	No, no, no.
	That's not what she says.
	Bought up.
	Oh, bought up.
	Oh.
	Oh.
	That's what she says.
	It's bought up.
	Okay.
	Being bought up.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	Adam and John, keep up the good work with the tour.
	In the music and book selling business, it is known that you want to gain millions of fans.
	Touring is the best way.
	So the Hot Pockets Tour is a great idea.
	If you want to have a rotten back, indigestion, and a headache, touring is the best way is what I'd say.
	I'll give them a little de-douching.
	You've been de-douched.
	There you go.
	Toby Knott's in Kenilworth, Illinois.
	1, 2, 3, 4, 5.
	And Kenilworth is, I think, where Jesse Jackson lives.
	It's a very nice neighborhood in north of Chicago.
	Andrew Holcomb, Ann Arbor, Michigan.
	$111.11.
	Thanks for all you do.
	I have soaked up countless hours of research, insight, and entertainment as I drive around my Midwest territory peddling printed books to independent bookstores.
	I used to listen to our National Treasure, but now I only tune into those douchebags for the traffic and weather.
	You know, I shudder to think that I would have gotten the whole family lined up for swine flu shots, Gardasil, and shingles vaccinations had it not been for analysis and information provided on the No Agenda show.
	Please put my contribution in the 3B fund, bullets, beans, and books.
	May I please have a shot of health karma for my eldest human resource?
	She's a great kid suffering a painful wrist injury.
	We're hoping for simple and reasonable price recovery.
	Absolutely.
	Here's some health karma.
	You've got karma.
	Yeah, that was $111.11.
	Oracle Broadcasting, Round Rock, Texas, in your neck of the woods.
	$100 is for gas, money, and karma for Mustang Sally.
	Thank you very much.
	He's actually a Dolphins truck.
	You've got karma.
	By the way, confirm pre-ignition issues.
	And I think we're going to have producer Rick in Twin Falls look at it this evening.
	He says he's got a strobe.
	Yeah, you're using cheap gas.
	I think if you moved to 89 octane, you'd fix the problem.
	You don't have to go to 91.
	I'm using 91.
	It seems to be better.
	It would be.
	But it may be a tune-up problem.
	Do you know if that engine is a V8? Maybe it requires better octane than you're putting in it.
	And by the way, I've been notified that this is not a big block.
	It's the biggest of the small blocks, which is a 360.
	It's a small block V8, 360.
	What's the horsepower?
	Four.
	Four horsepower?
	That's what it feels like.
	Not much more.
	I kid because I love her.
	Nicholas Oman in Thief River, Minnesota.
	7777.
	Just finished listening to the last show and realized that even though I gave money a few shows ago, I need to give again.
	This time, though, is a call to action for those in Minnesota that listen to the show.
	We need to help Ron Paul and Republican endorse U.S. Senate candidate Kurt Bills get elected.
	Huh?
	Nothing else.
	We need to get Amy Klobuchar out of office.
	If you don't recognize her name, you remember last year when she proposed a law that would make streaming copyrighted videos of felony.
	Felony.
	Yeah, she should go.
	Yeah.
	You can give her a douchebag for that.
	If it wasn't enough, now she's refusing to even have a real debate.
	Kurt Bills challenged her to 10 town hall debates to allow for at least one in every congressional district in the state.
	Instead, she turned it down, saying she would only take part in two, and he goes on complaining about her.
	I hope this spurs people into action.
	Vote for Kurt Bills.
	Kurt Bills, is a guy who's going to be a legislator?
	His name's Bills?
	Brandon Crisham.
	Wait, hold on, hold on.
	He wants, don't miss it.
	Give him some karma as well.
	That would be great.
	Oh yeah, karma.
	That's what he wanted.
	Okay.
	Sorry.
	You've got karma.
	Yeah, Amy Klobuchar is horrible.
	Brandon Chisholm, Los Crucios, New Mexico.
	We'll be seeing Brandon on our way down, I'm sure.
	You will.
	7171, enjoying the Hot Pockets Tour coverage, as well as John Ryan's pick analysis.
	After some thought, I think 7171 would be a good getting laid amount.
	CXKCD487. Okay.
	I'd like to get some Huntsman karma for his wife.
	Huntsman karma.
	You've got karma.
	I am googling XKCD47, and here it is, numerical sex positions.
	What's the 77?
	71, 71.
	Oh.
	Is it in there?
	Yeah, it's bent over the desk.
	Oh, well...
	It's pretty common in Washington.
	In the morning!
	Prince Whitten in Huntersville, North Carolina, 6969.
	Hopefully discover some beef jerky in Big Dubs while on the road.
	Last time I donated, I asked for a you've got to talk about that karma, but you didn't know what it was.
	It was a hilarious Reverend Manning clip that I've heard Anna play a couple of times.
	If you don't have it, I'll take a chemtrails karma for me and my family.
	I'll do a chemtrails karma.
	That's probably better.
	Chemtrails.
	You've got karma.
	Michael V. Rochester, New York.
	Hold on.
	Hold on, John.
	You got to talk about that!
	I found it.
	Oh, I remember that.
	I forgot about it.
	It's funny.
	Michael V in Rochester, New York, 6969.
	I heard the last show and thought I'd be a rebel and test you guys regarding refunds on the 6969 donation.
	If you want a refund, let us know.
	If for some reason this makes it through, I want a getting laid karma.
	Why?
	Because?
	Please credit me as Mike V in Rochester and don't say my last name.
	Okay?
	Thanks for being the best podcast in the universe.
	The best podcast in the universe.
	You've got karma.
	So, we can't refund because according to your calculations, we did not break the streak and Peter Snakes got in on time.
	That's what you're saying?
	He did.
	That's what I'm claiming, yes.
	Okay.
	Because it did come in.
	I can show you the time stamp.
	I believe you.
	We kill the donation segment at midnight, generally speaking.
	But if there's something like this going on, because this happened before.
	We had a guy that came in after midnight, but it was part of the streak, so I put it in there.
	It was the one thing that kept the streak going.
	This was like three months ago.
	So I think that since I did it before, there's no reason I can't do it again, and I did.
	I think you're weak.
	I'm weak.
	I'm a weak-willed person.
	That is me.
	So here's Paige Shakespeare.
	Opening of the show.
	Thank you.
	Perfect.
	69-69.
	In the morning, John and Adam, enjoying the best podcast in the universe for almost five years.
	Wow.
	Please give me a BioDiversité Sois-en-Neuf karma for my birthday the 11th.
	Okay, we don't have anything for Sois-en-Neuf.
	BioDiversité You've got karma.
	Michael Shoemaker in Rancho Cucamonga, Anaheim Azusa and Cucamonga.
	In the morning, John Adams, since you won't accept my favorite donation amount of $69.69, here's the next best thing, $69.68.
	You're trying to force your money on us.
	We won't have it.
	I'm giving him credit for 6969.
	John Bollard in Byron, New York, 690.
	Happy birthday to John and Polly Bolland.
	We need to put that on the list.
	I don't see it on there.
	No, I don't see it on there either.
	Nor do I see...
	Hold on a second.
	Let me just see.
	Well, Sir Pate, of course.
	Okay, so it's...
	Hold on.
	Polly Bolland?
	Okay.
	John and Polly.
	Mm-hmm.
	Need some super fertile baby making hot MILF karma.
	We're in Jamaica for our anniversary trying to make another human resource for the no agenda fiefdom.
	Good.
	MILF? That's one mother.
	I like MILF. You've got karma.
	Sanitize for your protection.
	Another 6900 donation, because apparently they were refusing to listen to Adam's, you know, being a stiff regarding the streak.
	Mark, you know, being a bureaucrat regarding the streak.
	Mark Krugeth in Antwerp.
	Hold on a second, John.
	Mark Cruyff.
	Mark Cruyff.
	Very famous soccer player.
	Johan Cruyff.
	Is he a...
	Mark is a famous soccer player?
	No, but the Cruyff name is very, very famous.
	Cruyff.
	Cruyff.
	In Antwerp.
	Or some would say Cruyff.
	Cruyff.
	Hey, Cruyff.
	69.
	69.
	Greetings from a Dutch diehard listener living in Belgium and donating from Luxembourg.
	I like that.
	I haven't had a commute to and from work since the start of DSC and No Agenda where I have not been listening to your podcast.
	Empty iPod batteries while being in a car are a nightmare.
	Get one of the things that plugs into the car thing.
	The lighter.
	I just got mine the other day for my Android phone.
	If you put it on GPS and you start going, spending more than an hour driving around...
	The thing goes dead.
	Let me explain something because I have experience with this.
	Yes.
	So we have a little converter, a DC to AC converter.
	So you plug in the phone, you plug the charger in, that gives it enough juice.
	But you're absolutely right.
	And the problem is the screen.
	The screen is draining faster than the USB charge will charge the battery.
	So the way you do this is when you get like...
	When we're on the road where it says...
	Follow the route for 174 miles.
	Then you just turn off the screen, but you leave the navigator on, and it will charge.
	But you cannot have the screen on, plugged into USB power through the cigarette lighter and have it charge.
	It will deplete, and you'll be severely disappointed.
	So Mark says, quote from my children, Daddy, are you listening to those boring men again?
	Oh, well, it's no Disney Channel.
	I highly recommend the best podcast in the universe, Never Stop.
	I guess some kids don't like the show.
	Well, they'll amount to nothing.
	Byrar.com, B-U-I-R-A-R, Watertown, Wisconsin, 68.
	My last donation of 69, 69 was a complete success, and my friend has a new human resource on the way.
	Who done it?
	You know, doing 69, I don't know.
	I don't see how that can be a success for a human resource.
	I'm not seeing how that works, but okay.
	Alrighty then.
	I intended to donate another 69 to 69, but since that streak ended, no, it did not.
	I decided to maybe start a new streak, and the $68 donation is you do me and I owe you one.
	Hey baby, let's do a soixante wheat.
	And I owe you one.
	As this is my second donation, I could use a de-douching.
	I didn't ask for it the first time I donated, and I don't feel that a single donation should convey that honor.
	You've been de-douched.
	Kevin Reeves in Lake Ann, Michigan.
	5555.
	Hey guys, there's double nickels on the dime from sales of the...
	This is not double nickels on the dime.
	This is double nickels on the double nickels.
	Yeah.
	Just a reminder to everyone to go to freefalleffect.com and grab it for five bucks.
	Those are the guys who like all the no agenda lyrics, the kind of heavy metal stuff, the five or six tracks on the EP. It's good, actually.
	Oh, okay.
	You'll like it.
	Unless you're into, you know, like John into...
	What is your favorite band again?
	Debussy.
	Debussy.
	Charles Debussy.
	My favorite band would be, I don't know.
	Maroon 5.
	Cleveland Symphony is good.
	Maroon 5.
	London Symphony is good.
	And here's our buddies.
	He says the best podcast in the universe, Kevin does.
	Bruns Clothing in Watertown, South Dakota.
	And latest proceeds from the Doge and a jacket sales.
	And by the way, these jackets are astonishing.
	Yeah, they're really nice.
	Especially if you live in the northern part of the country, you need one of these jackets.
	And you can get it with a concealed carry pocket.
	Yeah, you can.
	B-R-U-N-S. Just look it up on Google.
	Daniel Torriello.
	It was $52.
	Daniel Torriello, Charleston, South Carolina.
	Beautiful city.
	$50.
	Thanks for getting my name correct with my previous donation.
	The newsletter analysis of why Rubio wasn't tapped for VP is why value for value works, especially Marco Rubio, as una ducha vaginal douchebag and has no idea what it means to speak being Hispanic in America.
	Just because you speak the language doesn't mean you represent a people.
	Always great show and give Adam and Miss Mickey karma for safe rest of the Hot Pockets 2009 tour.
	If you can't read this out loud on the show because it's too opinionated, I understand.
	He doesn't like me.
	No.
	Clearly.
	Which is fine.
	You've got karma.
	Well, we, you know, so there's someone who could know, apparently.
	You know, Toriello.
	We had some guy, another nasty letter came in.
	A couple of them, actually.
	And one of the guys, you know, he just hates us.
	Yeah, I think he hates you.
	I think he hates you, in particular.
	Well, he could hate me.
	He sent me a separate email saying, your partner is such a dick.
	The guy who bitched about or complaining about the other guy who was never a producer and he says, we're condemning all producers?
	That guy?
	Yeah, people do this all the time.
	They'll send something to you and I both and then either one of us will respond or both respond but then they split it up.
	It's like what kids do with mommy and daddy.
	Daddy said he could do this and then he was like, I love no agenda but you should get a different partner.
	Yeah, I love that.
	Yeah, sure.
	Yeah, right.
	That's going to work.
	Yeah, that'll be great.
	Yeah.
	Okay, onward to the last one.
	This was actually a short list today, unfortunately.
	That is short.
	Rick's in Murray, Utah.
	You drove right by his house.
	I missed him.
	Hey, John and Adam, he's coming.
	By the way, Patrick, he's coming back to Salt Lake City.
	Yeah, see us there.
	See us there.
	Oh, he's actually looking.
	Yeah, he's in Salt Lake City.
	Long-time boner, first-time donor.
	Could use a de-douching and a little karma for my Kickstart project.
	I'm making homemade Southern-style barbecue sauces.
	Love to send you both a couple of bottles and see what you think.
	I'll be glad to take a couple.
	Yeah, I'll take a bottle.
	I'll send you an email with my address.
	Sure, yeah.
	Check out my website, patricksbbq.com, and let me know where I can send the sauce.
	If you can mention my Kickstarter on the show, I'll kick back 10% of any donates from anyone who mentions No Agenda.
	Thanks for making my work days bearable, and I'm looking forward to donating again.
	Patrick from Salt Lake City.
	I don't think you can technically do that with a Kickstarter, where you take some of the money and kick it back to someone.
	And I don't want it.
	I'd love to try your sauce, though, and we'll give you an honest opinion.
	I don't know if you can put no agenda even in the Kickstarter thing.
	No, I don't think it's a good idea.
	Anyway, no, it's probably not a good idea.
	I have a few...
	No, if you're selling sauce.
	But we'll take some sauce.
	We'll take some sauce.
	Eh, send us some sauce.
	See how it is.
	Let me tell you about the Boise meet-up here.
	So, again, we have our associate executive producer, Chris Brashears, his lovely wife, Lori.
	Then at the meet-up, we receive $100 from Ray Adaki.
	Ray, a very interesting guy, by the way, he was able to tell me a lot about how the telecommunication systems work, and he said the biggest scam with the cell phones is that the government requires the power of individual cells to be very, very low.
	Why?
	Because?
	They receive license fees for every single cell.
	So they want more cells, therefore lower output per cell.
	Oh, I like that.
	No, I don't.
	It's like a rip-off.
	No, I mean, I like the creativity.
	It's very creative, so I'll deduce you later.
	You've been deduced.
	And he wants a little bit of job karma.
	You've got karma.
	Sincere thanks to Sir Russell Williams who was there.
	He donated the sword, which you will be seeing plenty of pictures of.
	He also paid for dinner, so we highly appreciate that.
	Sir A.J. Reistat, $100 a day's rental for the sin bin.
	And he actually was so cool, he gave us a yellow note from Sir A.J. Reistat, one day's rental of the sin bin.
	Thanks for visiting and have a...
	Oh, have a safe trip back to Camp Mofo.
	And this yellow note, he closed it and sealed it with his No Agenda sealing wax and night ring.
	Yeah, we actually get a lot of, occasionally when a check gets sent in, people seal it with it.
	And it's cool.
	Looks great.
	It does.
	Chad Nelson gave us a whole stack of No Agenda stickers.
	Which he's been printing up.
	In the morning, noagendashow.com.
	And these are white letters on transparent background.
	So, yeah, they're really, really pretty.
	So they go well on a laptop.
	They go well on a laptop.
	Well, here's the custom signs.
	It's vinylrocket.com.
	Make sure the surface you're applying the decal to is dry and clean.
	Remove paper backing.
	Apply it.
	You're good to go.
	Okay, so we highly appreciate that.
	And so that was Chad Nelson.
	And there was one other, one of our dames was there, and she actually, I think she worked for or currently works at Merce.
	Are you familiar with Merce?
	M-E-R-S? You know, it sure rings a bell, but I can't tell you what it is.
	Well, I will look into this.
	This is the Mortgage Electronic Registration Systems.
	And she says this is the most effed up, so that's why I'm not mentioning her name, this is the most effed up company in the world.
	She works there.
	What these guys do is when you have a house mortgaged and your mortgage is repackaged and split up and sold, which of course is still happening, these guys register it.
	But it's all hand input.
	So the title is not actually re-registered anywhere.
	These guys are the de facto database where this has all changed.
	She says it's a mess.
	And people get foreclosed on because their information is wrong in the MERS database.
	And so half of your mortgage payment is supposed to go to Citibank, the other half to Bank of America, but your unit number six has been confused with unit number seven, and then you get foreclosed on without even receiving notice, and it's all because of this database.
	So we have to look into this, mersinc.org, M-E-R-S-I-N-C.org.
	Very interesting, what she was telling me.
	Yeah.
	That's very interesting.
	In fact, I'm sure it's part of the problem.
	Well, she says it is the problem.
	It is the problem.
	Okay, well, I guess that she would know.
	Yeah, she would.
	She's also, she's actually a former, she was on a nuclear aircraft carrier when she started listening to the show.
	She says, you got me through all those dark days sitting on the nukes.
	So thank you all very much for your support of our value-for-value proposition here.
	A little light today, to say the least.
	But the Hot Pockets Tour continues to roll, and we will be in Salt Lake City, Utah, for our meet-up there on Monday, 6 p.m.
	at Justin Peck's home.
	Make sure you catch it.
	Dvorak.org slash N-A-N. It's your birthday birthday on No Agenda!
	Sir Pate, who apparently has stopped the streak from breaking the Soissons Neuf, he congratulates himself, celebrating yesterday on the 11th.
	John says happy birthday to Polly Ballin, and that will do it.
	So happy birthday from all your buddies here at the No Agenda Show.
	And we have no knights.
	No knights.
	No knights.
	So we can just swoosh our swords around as much as we want, but it's not going to do anybody any good.
	Nothing at all.
	So, let me see.
	There were some things.
	Well, they're rousting the gypsies out of France.
	Despite the promises of Hollande.
	Well, it's about time.
	A socialist, and apparently they always gave the right-wingers crap.
	Oh, you can't do that.
	So Hollande comes in, he says, eh.
	After promising he won't, he's just doing it.
	I've got two clips that at least give us.
	Bring us up to speed on this.
	And by the way, they're not called gypsies.
	Heaven forbid, by the French.
	They're called travelers or...
	Travelers or Romas.
	Either one of the two is fine.
	But gypsies, no.
	Can't say that.
	I don't know why.
	It was a move that sparked accusations of a witch hunt under France's Conservative government.
	Now the new Socialist Administration is also sending illegal immigrants home.
	A makeshift Roma Campney, the northern city of Lille, was broken up on Thursday.
	Some 200 immigrants will be expelled.
	Forced out against their will, with no idea where they're headed.
	On Thursday morning, this Roma camp was dismantled in Lille.
	The eviction had been planned for a while, but many don't know where they'll be sleeping from now on.
	I just went to ask them what was happening, where they'll go today.
	They don't know.
	They're asking us.
	And we're not doing anything either.
	So we confiscated the few things they have, their caravans, and that's it.
	They've got nothing.
	You know, I'm a gypsy right now.
	Do I qualify?
	No, you're not staying put anywhere for too long.
	Maybe not.
	You have to actually kind of move into the place.
	Hey, we played part two, and then I would say we'll make a comment.
	A few days earlier, some 200 Roma were living here on a piece of abandoned land.
	Some of them had been there for two years, a situation that had caused some friction with their neighbors.
	For the last two years, we've been woken up at night, regularly, sometimes two or three times a night.
	Loud music day and night, even at the weekend.
	You can even hear it with the windows shut.
	There are physical attacks, verbal attacks.
	The socialists have broken their promises.
	Yet for the charities, it's a worrying turn of events.
	They underline François Hollande's campaign promise not to evict travellers without an alternative.
	So much for the socialist campaign promises.
	But, you know, I don't want to say anything bad about the travelers or the Romas or whatever, but they're a plague wherever they are.
	They're a bunch of pickpockets.
	Now, what kind of generalization is that, John?
	You go to Paris, or I haven't been there for a while because of the euro, so I can't afford it.
	We keep getting low donations.
	I'm not going to get back there.
	But you go there, and you step outside, and a bunch of kids come around to harass you, and then one of them bumps you, and the next thing you know, your wallet's gone.
	I mean, they don't do anything about it.
	They really need to be rousted.
	Not sympathetic, in other words.
	Wow!
	Okay.
	I was pickpocketed by a gypsy in Madrid.
	Well, then why don't...
	Yeah, that's true.
	Well, why don't we just lock them up, then?
	No, just get, you know...
	Just send them to a different country?
	Yeah, lock them up or you can catch them doing anything.
	Just send them to a different country?
	Is that your solution here?
	Well, that's a solution.
	They can send them back to Romania, where it's actually where many of them came from.
	Well, the Italians also have a problem with the Romas.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	But that's not, you know, talking about arresting people for being crazy, this is another thing that hasn't been played up yet, even though I think it's a great human interest story.
	Great story about Tartaristan.
	Where is Tartaristan?
	It's in the middle of Russia.
	It's one of the Russian states.
	It's where the Tartars, famous warriors.
	Is that where Tartar sauce comes from?
	As many as 27 children are being cared for by Russian social services after spending up to a decade living a hermit-like existence in an Islamic sect.
	The 70 members were kept in an underground bunker on the outskirts of the city of Kazan without heat or light.
	The Faisaramanist sect is named after an 83-year-old self-declared prophet.
	Many of the children are said to have been born underground and have never seen daylight.
	There's such an underground labyrinth with small spaces measuring 2 by 3 meters.
	More than 70 people were living there.
	Parents of several children have been arrested and charged with child abuse.
	Many of the youngsters have been taken to local hospitals for observation before being moved to orphanages.
	Commentators say the sect is one of hundreds since the fall of the Soviet Union.
	Local residents have expressed outrage.
	That's no way to live.
	Children that don't go to school, no education, no medical checkups.
	What kind of people will they grow up to be?
	Sect leader Faiz Rahman Satorov had declared his house an independent Islamic state.
	Only a few members ever left the building, located in the majority Muslim Russian Republic of Tatarstan.
	Okay.
	Well, I have something.
	Have you heard that story?
	No, but I do have an opinion on it.
	By the way, I like the idea of declaring your house an independent Islamic state.
	The independent Islamic state of no agenda.
	So, you know, you scoff at me, but the Tartars do have a history.
	They are not just some crazy sect.
	Because, why because, Tartar sauce is named after the Tartars from the Eurasian steppe who once occupied Ukraine, the Czech Republic, and Russia.
	So these are the people who created Tartar sauce.
	So they cannot, this is according to the Book of Knowledge, so they cannot just be called a sect if they created something that we use on our fish...
	Well, this group was the sect in Tartaristan.
	I'm not saying that...
	Oh, yeah?
	Oh, yeah?
	Have you done the investigative research?
	Maybe they are the fathers of the tartar sauce.
	You know, I find it hard to believe that the tartars invented tartar sauce.
	It makes a little sense because the name is exactly the same.
	So I would have to defer to the book of knowledge.
	Well, hold on.
	It could be some joker who put that in there.
	I got a good one.
	The name derives from the French sauce tartare named after the Tartars from the Eurasian steppe.
	Oh, named after but not invented by.
	Who once occupied Ukraine, the Czech Republic, and Russia.
	Beyond this, the etymology is unclear in Europe.
	Uh-huh.
	The sauce was used as a condiment to steak tartare.
	So, basically, they just, like, said, hey, I know.
	Hey, man, that's some good sauce.
	Let's call ourselves the Tartars.
	That wasn't it.
	Let's call ourselves the tartar.
	We'll name ourselves after a French sauce.
	The Islamic State of tartar.
	Oh, there's the Hollandaise branch.
	It's like tartar, now a new affiliate of Al-Qaeda.
	Okay, you're just making fun of my clip.
	Yeah, I am.
	I have some Spanish news for you.
	First of all, the Spanish protectorate of, I think it's a protectorate, of Tenerife, as they say in the United Kingdom, where Tenerife is on fire.
	Mr.
	Oil, which I did not know, has been recalled to Tenerife to fight the fire.
	Wait, hold on a second.
	Are you telling me that there's a massive, is it an oil rig fire or an oil field fire?
	No, wildfires.
	Oh, there's Wired Fire.
	Yes.
	And it's threatening oil wells?
	I don't know if it's threatening the oil wells, but people...
	There's no news of this.
	There's no news of the fire in Boise.
	Boise.
	Boise.
	Well, Boise and Tenerife apparently closely affiliated.
	But Mr.
	Oil, who I think has...
	He was born there or something?
	I'm not sure.
	But he sent Miss Mickey a note.
	He says, you know, I may not be around because I've been recalled to the island of Tenerife to fight the fires.
	Really?
	Yeah.
	Let's check this out.
	Let me look this up in the book of the Google.
	The Googles.
	No, there is...
	So there's...
	You know, I have to say, I'm pretty amazed that there's no news of the fires in Idaho.
	It is not minor.
	They don't want to talk about anything but the Olympics and the new normal.
	Maybe if it was a gay fire, it would make the news.
	So here's what's happening in Spain while you look up the Googles.
	Two Spanish trade unionists have been released after spending a night in jail over a Robin Hood-style raid on supermarkets.
	This is the new meme in Europe.
	Robin Hood!
	They face prosecution for theft and pressing one store to donate food for distribution to the needy.
	They were arrested after their union, which represents rural laborers in southern Spain, organized a raid to steal cartloads of food.
	So this has interesting connotations, because this is not just about Robin Hood, but it's about a labor union.
	Which is interesting that this is a new tactic, I think.
	The Robin Hood robbings, the Robin Hood stealings, encouraging people to steal, but the union is encouraging people to do this.
	Taking some food and giving it to families who are having a really hard time, if this is stealing, I'm guilty, he says.
	The operation was condemned by larger unions.
	An industry association said supermarkets already made donations.
	But the unionists have local backing.
	A left-wing mayor faces charges after leading the raid.
	If I end up in jail because I highlighted the crisis, it will be an honor.
	The mayor spent a night in an improvised camp to show solidarity with activists.
	Andalusia has been particularly devastated by the crisis since the property crash of four years ago, with a third of the population out of work.
	So I think this is a kind of an Occupy thing, because the unions, of course, totally co-opted the United States Occupy movement, and they're just calling it Robin Hood.
	It's a rebranding of sorts.
	We should keep our eye on this Robin Hood meme.
	By the way, Ms.
	Mickey just texted me that Mr.
	Oil was on Tenerife when he was called up, I guess, to go fight the fires.
	Well, this thing, this fire began, it's a huge fire, on this island, I guess.
	It's an island.
	Yeah, La Gorma?
	It's threatening the Garajanay National Park, which is a big deal.
	It's a UNESCO World Heritage Site.
	Yeah.
	And it started like July 12th and it's just been rampaging.
	Wow.
	Did terrorists said it?
	Al-Qaeda?
	Still not allowed to...
	No, global warming.
	Ah.
	Not allowed to return to 18 towns and villages that have been evacuated.
	Ah.
	Eight on the popular tourist island of Tenerife and ten on La Gomera.
	La Gomera, yeah.
	That's one of the islands.
	But you have to say Tenerife.
	Tenerife.
	Tenerife.
	So there's more going on in Spain.
	Model airplanes...
	You fly him?
	You're a terrorist.
	Spain's Interior Ministry has released a video it says shows a model plane packed with explosives being tested for a potential Al-Qaeda attack.
	What?
	Earlier this month, two Russians of Chechen origin and a Turkish man were arrested and charged.
	Police reportedly believe a shopping center in Gibraltar was being targeted during the Olympics.
	Okay, so this was a meme fest in 17 seconds.
	So they're talking about the three terrorists who were apparently training to fly motorized paragliders.
	These are the guys they're talking about.
	And now they show a video of a guy with a little red remote-controlled aircraft, an RC, not like a huge one, you know, taken off from a field, but apparently those are going to be packed with explosives to bomb a shopping center during the Olympics, which is not in Spain.
	Ha ha!
	What is wrong with these people?
	Are they trying to confuse me?
	I mean, this is why...
	I mean, it's not just in America, people.
	It's not just in America.
	Everywhere in the world, I command you...
	Turn off your television!
	I command you.
	This is bad for your brain, not good for your health.
	You can combat it a little bit with the No Agenda show, but we can't fight this, John.
	We cannot fight this.
	Apparently not.
	Now, have you heard of Tripwire?
	We can have fun mocking it.
	Yeah, we can.
	Have you heard of Tripwire?
	Yeah, yeah, I have.
	Okay, what have you heard about Tripwire?
	I can't tell you until you tell me.
	No, you said you've heard of it.
	Yeah, I have.
	It's all over the place, but it's not at the top of my brain right now, so I can't tell you what it is.
	Well, so, all right, so here's the deal.
	Now, so this comes from WikiLeaks, the code name Tripwire, which, of course, is immediately suspicious.
	Is this, you're talking about the latest?
	Is this the thing where, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Okay, this is good.
	I know what it is.
	Alright, then tell me.
	No, I don't know what it is.
	You said you know what it was.
	I was just talking about it last night, as a matter of fact.
	With Buzzkill Jr., by any chance?
	Yeah, he's been following it.
	Because I want to know his take on it.
	I'm very interested.
	No, he just left.
	Oh, why?
	Well, tell me what your take is, and it'll remind me what the conversation was, and I can tell you what his take is.
	But Skill Jr.
	doesn't care about the show, apparently.
	No, he had to go do something.
	Okay.
	He never listens to him.
	Does he have a girlfriend?
	Yeah, his girlfriend's with him.
	Oh, he's doing a 77.
	71-71.
	Okay.
	According to WikiLeaks, which got like...
	And I think they got this from the Stratford emails or something.
	And supposedly they got shut down.
	Well, here it is.
	The idea is, according to former senior intelligence officials, there is a detailed surveillance system...
	Oh, right, right, right, right.
	That utilizes cameras all across America.
	And these cameras have facial recognition in them.
	Right.
	But there's an extra piece to this that I just heard about today.
	And this comes from New York City.
	So the code name is Tripwire, which I like.
	You know, Tripwire is kind of covert, kind of sounds good.
	But in New York, they call it the Domain Awareness System.
	And at the end of the report comes, again, bear in mind that the idea behind Tripwire is that all these cameras around the United States are wired directly.
	They're all reporting back.
	And by the way, this may be just a surveillance camera, you know, by one of these Wi-Fi cameras.
	And you're thinking, oh, it's just for your home, but maybe it could be transmitting back to some other home base.
	So bear that in mind as you listen to this report about the domain awareness system from Democracy Now!
	The New York Police Department's launched a new citywide surveillance system that'll allow police to monitor thousands of cameras around the city and instantly call up detailed information about surveillance targets.
	The domain awareness system.
	It's connected to about 3,000 television cameras stationed around New York City, with more cameras reportedly planned, as well as several hundred license plate readers mounted on police cars and stationed on bridges, tunnels and streets.
	It centralizes information including live video feeds, maps, license plate readers, and city records, allowing police to gain instant access to information about a suspect's arrest records.
	911 calls associated with a suspect and related crimes that have occurred in a particular area.
	It also allows police to track cars associated with suspects and find out where they've been over the past several months.
	The system was developed by the NYPD and software giant Microsoft, and the city will reportedly get 30% of the revenue when the technology is sold to police forces around the country.
	So what's interesting here is that this is made by Microsoft.
	What has Microsoft been propagating throughout living rooms all across the country, all across the world?
	Yeah, no, this has been discussed, the Kinect box.
	Thank you.
	Yeah, that little thing.
	That thing is dangerous.
	And by the way, you heard in this report saying that it can detect people without saying they have facial recognition.
	That's how you detect people, obviously.
	Well, supposedly the way this operates is that they can, if they take, what's Adam Curry been doing for the last two weeks?
	And they can put it in the machine and then they find your face all over the place and then they can say, oh, he went here, he went there, he went to shopping, then he got back to the house and they went here.
	And they could follow you around after the fact because they've recorded all this stuff.
	This is bull crap.
	Let's just start right off with this thing.
	Facial recognition doesn't work for crap.
	Oh, yes it does.
	It's particularly bad with women.
	Yeah, it works fine if you stand in front of a camera and it takes a picture of you.
	By the way, to make yourself more paranoid, look at the latest version of Windows 7 where it says, would you like to sign in?
	Facial recognition.
	Or go facial recognition so they get a nice shot of your face.
	It's Windows 8, by the way.
	And it's also...
	So Windows 7, too, because I... And it's also on your smartphone.
	This is how Android is also doing your login with facial recognition.
	Not with me.
	No, but they're pushing it.
	This was at the I.O. conference, whatever that Google thing is.
	They were showing the tablet recognizing your face.
	It does work.
	Facial recognition does work.
	It works like crap.
	Yeah, if you're standing right in front of it, it works fine.
	Yeah.
	No problem.
	John, Facebook uses facial recognition to tag people automatically in pictures.
	It may not be 100% fail-safe, but it does work and it is being implemented and it's even worse that it doesn't work because then you could be implicated as a terrorist incorrectly.
	I'm not arguing that point.
	Now, so I worked with a guy, or I didn't work with a guy, but a guy gave me some information.
	One guy, a programmer, who developed most of the license plate reading software.
	He says that if you want to defeat it, just take some mud and throw it at your plate.
	So you need to have mud on your face all the time?
	Is that how we escape the New World Order?
	No, I'm just telling you about the license plate thing because that's more onerous because they'll send you tickets and bills and all kinds of things from that.
	They're not going to send you a ticket necessarily from your face.
	I would suspect that hats...
	Which, by the way...
	Painting an eyeball under your eyeball, that's one of the things that totally screws up the system.
	He has three eyes!
	Yeah.
	You have to take your hat off in many stores.
	I'm just saying, you can defeat it.
	You can defeat it, but in general, people don't go around with their faces smeared with mud or a third eyeball painted on their head.
	This is not the general practice at home in front of your connect.
	No agenda recommends painting an eyeball on your head.
	You know what the solution is?
	A burqa.
	The burkas will do the trick.
	Maybe we should go with that.
	No agenda burkas.
	Can we do that or will we get stoned if we sell no agenda burkas?
	I don't know.
	Is that illegal?
	You know, Mickey bought a burka.
	Why?
	She wants to do a photo shoot.
	I'm sure it's...
	You already told me this.
	I asked already.
	Yeah, I'm sure it's going to be something that she can be stoned for.
	It's probably not a good idea.
	Oh.
	Religious iconography.
	It depends on what tribe's burka she's wearing.
	Some of them are less sensitive.
	Ah, wow.
	I do have an interesting clip, you know, to get back to the Middle East for just a second.
	Yeah, because it's not good enough that we're being tracked at home by tripwire.
	That's not interesting enough.
	I want to see this.
	Are you on Twit today, by the way?
	Yes, I am.
	This will come up.
	Be ready, and what you just said is not the right way to promote our show.
	What you need to say is, why yes?
	At No Agenda, we've discussed this.
	Noagendashow.com.
	In great detail.
	In great detail.
	And we've come up with the burka solution.
	Yeah, that'll do the trick.
	That'll get me up.
	I guarantee you this is a topic on This Week in Tech today.
	Okay, you just guaranteed once before and it never happened.
	You watch.
	You watch.
	It's going to happen.
	Okay, I want you to play this clip.
	Because, this is interesting to me, CIA grabs Iranian.
	Can I play it?
	Yeah.
	It's a potential goldmine of information on Iran's nuclear program.
	We're following reports that the United States has convinced an Iranian scientist to defect and bring along with him secrets the Tehran government doesn't want the West or the world to know about.
	Our foreign affairs correspondent Jill Doherty is here working the story for us.
	Okay, the man's name is Shamram Amiri.
	We did report on him a few months back.
	And I think we have a picture that we can show.
	It comes from Iran's press TV. So he is a nuclear scientist.
	He was working at a university that is allied with the nuclear program of Iran.
	He goes to Saudi Arabia to the holy sites, and then he disappears.
	And at that point, Iran says he's been kidnapped by the United States.
	However, this new report that came out from ABC News says that actually he defected to the CIA and that he's been given some valuable information.
	As you might expect, there's no confirmation coming from the U.S. government, the State Department, anybody officially.
	But, you know, one of the things, it's a bit murky, Wolf, because it's unclear exactly what he knew.
	Remember when we were talking about COM, that CIA, Okay.
	So, here's the question for you.
	This actually happened in May.
	Of 2008, I think.
	2010.
	Uh-huh.
	I'm glad you looked it up.
	Did I ruin your question?
	It's an old clip.
	We actually ran this clip before.
	What has happened since this?
	It was like this report.
	It was all over the news.
	Jaram Mamiri, new twist and mysteries on The Guardian.
	July 2010, turns out he was actually kidnapped in 2009, even though this report ran in May of 2010.
	And now what?
	It was bulk.
	The whole thing was just a bunch of...
	I mean, why is this even...
	It's just so annoying to me.
	I went to back.
	I've decided to do some...
	Take really old clips, the oldest ones I can find, and see what happened since.
	Right.
	Nothing.
	Nothing.
	You've done pre-production.
	Well, kind of.
	What's happened since?
	Nothing.
	We've heard nothing about this.
	Why don't they wheel this guy out?
	This Shahram Amiri.
	Why don't we roll him out?
	And have him say, yeah, yeah, it's all true because this is how the news is portraying the current Israeli-Iran situation.
	According to a major daily Israeli newspaper, the Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and his defense minister would like to strike Iran as early as before the U.S. presidential elections taking place in November this year.
	Now, amid escalating media reports and expert predictions that such an attack could in fact be around the corner, the paper's front page article on Friday, authored by its senior commentators and reportedly based off of conversations with Israel's defense minister, says that if it were up to Benjamin Netanyahu and his minister of defense, Israel would cause a military attack on Iran sometime within the next several months.
	Importantly, Israel's security cabinet ministers have been resisting such an option for now.
	What's important here is while Israel is weighing this option, we know of course that Iran continues to insist that its nuclear program is for peaceful purposes exclusively.
	And we have seen the Obama administration be careful in urging Israel to stick with diplomacy.
	And now, of course, the big question is whether Israel may in fact go ahead with such an attack and whether or not it will wait for a green light from Washington.
	Importantly, experts in this article are quoted to say that if such an attack were to take place before the U.S. presidential elections, this would cause a major embarrassment to Barack Obama, as well as really cast a blow to his success in these elections, because, as we know, his main rival, Republican Mitt Romney, has never excluded such an option.
	So this would be a prime time to roll this guy out.
	It would be.
	I don't think the guy exists.
	Whatever the case, I tried to find some...
	Something about him since, since July 2010 is the last time I could find him.
	But in the process, I ran into the great series of articles that took place like earlier this year that say 16 intelligence agencies say that Iran has no intent on building a nuclear weapon.
	And I'm, you know, this is not being discussed.
	The whole thing, and by the way, I do think it's possible that If Obama had anything to do with bombing Iran now, he could lose the election.
	So if he did it, I think it would be an attempt to scuttle this re-election, possibly.
	So it might be near the end here.
	I think we're going to see both sides trying to...
	Do the worst they can.
	I mean, I think Obama doing that dirty ad was just great because it's got a lot of bad publicity for him.
	Dirty ad?
	What was the dirty ad?
	Oh, the ad is like...
	Actually, Howard Stern made fun of this in a recent series of...
	You listen to Howard Stern?
	I went out with Butler to go get the pig.
	Oh, and he has SiriusXM?
	Yeah, so we listened to Stern.
	Oh, okay.
	On the way out and back.
	And Stern is really a talent.
	I mean, it's amazing.
	Yeah, if only he did some of it.
	And you know what?
	I'm glad he's doing hookers and strippers and stuff, because if he was in our neck of the woods, we'd have a real problem.
	If he was doing political stuff and news.
	Oh, yeah.
	He doesn't even know who Ron Paul is.
	Yeah, no, he's totally oblivious.
	He's just kind of a knee-jerk Republican, essentially.
	Oblivious, oblivious, yeah.
	Anyway, the ad was about Romney.
	There's a guy comes on the air.
	I actually had a clip of it, but I decided I thought it would be boring.
	But anyway, the guy comes on and says, oh, you know, my steel company was bought up by Bain Capital, and then they fired us all, and I lost my health insurance, and then my wife died of cancer.
	Oh, that one, yeah.
	And Romney killed her.
	Right.
	It's essentially the ad.
	But more importantly...
	Even though Romney wasn't even ahead of Bain Capital when this whole thing took place, but it's beside the point of it.
	It's a really nasty ad, and it's got a lot of negative publicity, even though the Obama campaign thinks, ah, this is great.
	More importantly, you bought a pig?
	Oh, yeah.
	We had a...
	Well, I've gotten...
	Yeah, we bought a pig to eat.
	I did.
	Yeah, I'd like to hear the story about the pig you bought to eat.
	You and Michael Butler bought a pig.
	We split a pig, yeah.
	You split a pig.
	So how does this process go?
	Do you go to the pig market, the pig store?
	No, no, we bought this from Future Farmers of America auction at the Alameda County Fair.
	Do they have a website?
	Do you do this online?
	No, no, you have to go to the auction.
	And you see the pig and you go like, you look tasty?
	Is that how it works?
	Well, Butler's approach was lowball every pig that came up until one got through.
	He didn't really want to buy the pig, is what you're saying.
	No, no.
	He wanted to buy the pig, but he was real strict on what he's going to pay.
	Okay.
	And even though it's like a tax write-off and there's a bunch of- What?
	Wait a minute.
	Buying a pig is a tax write-off?
	Well, if you buy a pig at an auction for Future Farmers of America or 4-H at a county fair and you pay one cent over the market price of hogs at that point, which you will because these pigs are not cheap, you get to write off that money as a charitable contribution because the money goes to the kids- Who get to, you know, it helps them to college to get to go to school.
	Wait, what kids?
	What kids?
	The kids are...
	The kids who raise the pigs.
	You took a pig from a kid?
	Yeah, and apparently the kid was in tears.
	Oh, no!
	And Martina was there, Butler's daughter, and she says that she doesn't know if she can eat the pig named Rosie.
	Butler, on the other hand, got a picture with the pig.
	And so we got this...
	By the way, the pig is delicious.
	So...
	So Butler got it, and the kid, apparently they all do this, and you have to kind of, I guess, tolerate it.
	The kid, a little 11-year-old girl, you know, she's in tears.
	It was her pet pig, and you took the pig and ate it.
	Yes.
	You're such a horrible man!
	You should go back to the kid and say, here, you want some bacon from your pet pig?
	He apologized to her, but the pig was raised to be eaten, not to be hanging around the house.
	You're a mean old man!
	I wasn't there.
	You're a horrible man.
	It was Butler who was the mean old man.
	Hey kid, your pig looks delicious.
	Butler wants a picture with the pig.
	He wants to know the name of the pig.
	So anyway, so we went to the butcher, a great butcher out in Manteca.
	Wait, can I ask you?
	I need to understand the process.
	So you had the pig and the pig is at this point alive.
	Yes.
	So the pig is like, squiddy, squiddy, squiddy, squiddy.
	So there's a kid crying over here.
	There's Butler doing Facebook pictures with the pig.
	And you're taking the pig to a great butcher.
	Oh, the butcher's fantastic.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	So anyway, it's a good, it's a Portuguese butcher and they actually make a linguiça just at the shop.
	You're going to have to go there to get it.
	So anyway, yeah.
	So we bought a pig and there was all, it's a process.
	I'm going to write a little paper on this and sell it for 99 cents so people can know how to do this.
	We also bought a cow.
	We bought a cow a month earlier or a heifer.
	From some kid again?
	No, no.
	We bought this from a farm.
	This is one of the young...
	I'm sorry.
	Look, I'm all for eating the pig.
	Yeah.
	But the little kid thing is a little disturbing.
	It's very disturbing.
	I don't like it.
	That there's some organization that helps kids raise piglets, 11 years old.
	I don't know.
	In America, outside of rural America, certainly the San Francisco Bay Area, these kids don't understand that pigs are for eating.
	They're in Future Farmers of America.
	They better learn to understand.
	This was a future farmer who was crying?
	Yeah.
	Apparently all the little girls, they raise these pigs for their college education and then they sell the pig and they're very upset about it because they know the pig is going to get butchered and eaten.
	You can tweet her a picture of your ham sandwich.
	I'm sure she'll love it.
	I'm sure she won't, but it's just the way it is.
	So anyway...
	Yeah, of course, and I'm agreeing with you, but the whole idea...
	Yeah, I know.
	The whole scene is kind of weird, especially bizarre in the Bay Area.
	But I was convinced that there's good eating down here, because we do this in Washington.
	We buy pigs and cows and lambs and have them butchered.
	And it's a more common practice in that where you are, in your neck of the woods, right now in Boise.
	Boise.
	Everybody does it.
	And so we're doing it locally, even though I have to go all the way to Manteca, which is an hour and a half damn near to get to the butcher because nobody can do this in the Bay Area because it's like too many people put signage.
	No, killing animals is bad.
	Eat vegetables.
	Did you kill the pig with the machete though?
	That's the question.
	It's part of the process.
	There used to be a guy up in Washington called the Zen Killer.
	You have these guys, the slaughter guys, the guys who kill the animal are specialists, it's not the butcher.
	And there was this guy called the Zenz brother and he apparently would sweet talk the animal.
	To death.
	He'd sweet talk the animal and then before the animal knew what was going on, boom, off him.
	So the animal was more tender.
	Well, now I will say that it is of course extremely important that the animal was not distressed before being butchered.
	The little girl argues that the animals that are the most loved by their owner that was raising them, their guardian, are tastier.
	She's totally convinced of this.
	Well, no, I agree.
	I agree, too.
	That's like the cows we saw in Utah.
	I bet you that, you know, they are really tasty because they seem so incredibly happy walking around, doing whatever they want to do, drinking from the lake, eating the grass.
	You know, they're not fenced in.
	They can walk anywhere they want.
	And you get one of these and they're going to be really, really good.
	Yeah, and they're not fed up with hormones and other stuff they can't do.
	You buy these animals directly from the growers and you find out what they feed them, how organic it is.
	The cow we bought was totally grass-fed.
	Turns out to be quite mild.
	And then you read them a haiku.
	And then boom.
	Nice.
	So we went to get a pig, and in the process we listened to Howard Stern.
	Oh, John, it's so nice to be associated with you.
	Well, I'm looking forward to the Oryx.
	Oh, yeah.
	Now, when we get back, we're going to go to Sebastian's place.
	Sebastian, the frogman, the French guy from the market in Austin, he apparently has a license for everything.
	He has a processing license, a kitchen license.
	Mickey was looking at his website.
	He says, the guy, he's got some awesome stuff.
	And he will make me go and shoot the Oryx.
	Well, that's going to cost you a lot of money if you do it that way.
	I thought you could just get that over.
	No, no.
	We're getting a couple people together.
	It's $1,000.
	And I've never shot an animal in my life.
	So I'm not, you know...
	You'll probably miss.
	No, I will not miss.
	But I think it is the right thing to do.
	In the circle of life...
	You know Mark Zuckerberg.
	Oh, please.
	I mean, everything was going so well.
	Well, he only eats what he kills.
	He's a douchebag.
	I don't give a crap about Mark Zuckerberg.
	Okay, okay, I'm just saying.
	Now I feel like I'm on level with Mark Zuckerberg.
	You wish.
	No, I don't wish, John.
	No, I don't.
	I've been rich.
	I have no desire to be rich anymore.
	All right.
	Well, you're not going to get there from here.
	Don't worry about it.
	No worries.
	Not gonna happen.
	Oh, wow.
	Okay, I think we should end it here while we're on a high note of making 11-year-old girls cry as you kill their pigs.
	Okay, well, then I want to do an after-show clip.
	Oh, what's your after-show clip?
	Two-parter drone show in Vegas.
	Okay, you know what?
	Stop.
	Stop.
	What?
	We can't just do that as an after-show clip.
	What, you want to talk about drones?
	I love talking about drones.
	Well, then hit the jingle.
	What?
	That's a different thing.
	Well, okay.
	If you want the jingle, then...
	Win, lose, or drone!
	That's right, everybody.
	We've got a drone show going on in Vegas.
	Here's the man who kills pigs that belong to 11-year-old girls, John C. Dvorak, on Win, Lose, or Drone!
	Hey, I didn't kill the pig.
	So, okay, we got a two-parter drone thing.
	You know, we missed this, by the way.
	I'm very annoyed.
	If I hadn't known about this show, I would have gone to it.
	I would have gone to it.
	I had no idea.
	You know, listen to it.
	And it's cool, because they have every kind of drone.
	Play part one.
	We are douchebags.
	I can't believe that.
	Whether it's on the battlefield or providing security at high-profile events like the Olympics, these days drones or unmanned robots have come to play an increasingly critical role.
	Well, despite drawing controversy, their capabilities have often proved essential.
	So what will the drones of the future look like?
	Well, they've been on display in Las Vegas and our correspondent Alastair Leithead went to have a look.
	They're all watching.
	Underwater, with the latest generation of robot submarines.
	In the air, flying themselves, usually with a military purpose.
	Or on land, going where humans can't, and all the time, beaming back pictures.
	Looking at the world's smallest tactical micro-robot, you pull the pin and the robot is on.
	You then throw it into your target.
	And drive it around the building.
	So what kind of things are you looking for up there at the moment?
	Well, it could be just booby traps, people.
	Drive it around the building.
	These are already being used by UK Special Forces and American troops in Afghanistan, but also by police forces and SWAT teams.
	Drones are being built with the military very firmly in mind, from those which can be sent out to kill, or sent to spy on, or fire on targets on the ground.
	A couple of things.
	One, in the report, drones flying themselves, i.e.
	autonomous drones.
	Second one, finding people through tripwire facial recognition.
	They didn't say that.
	No, but I did.
	Can't believe we missed this show.
	Yeah, I know.
	It's very irksome.
	And it's on the BBC. I didn't see any report about this.
	Well, I don't know.
	Yeah, no, I didn't either.
	It's just only on the BBC. It was just, what?
	What?
	Drone show.
	Anyway, part two.
	Okay, here we go.
	Drones are becoming more and more sophisticated all the time, whether it be the full-sized helicopters that have flown without a pilot down to the tiniest little spy drones.
	And as they move more into civilian airspace, people are worrying about Big Brother, about whether they could be under surveillance all the time.
	Some police forces operate aerial drones already and will use them more here as U.S. regulations are being relaxed.
	We're very concerned about Americans taking this as a new normal.
	The surveillance state or the police state becomes widely accepted by the general public as the new normal.
	That's not the kind of America that I think most of us want to live in.
	It's certainly not the kind of America that most of us grew up in.
	Yeah.
	Wow.
	Okay.
	You know what?
	You're going to get Clip of the Day for that.
	Thank you.
	Yeah, no, I think it was actually above and beyond my Obama clip.
	That was actually outstanding, John.
	Clip of the Day.
	Because they dropped the meme bomb, the new normal.
	Oh, citizen, it's the new normal.
	Wow.
	Okay, well, we were going to go out on a high with the pig.
	Why bother?
	We didn't get any money.
	If you enjoyed the depressing nature of this program, turn off your television.
	Read a book.
	And go eat a pig.
	My goodness.
	Alright, next show, I think...
	We'll be from New Mexico, I believe.
	I'm not sure.
	So continue to follow us on the Hot Pockets Tour.
	Remember us at Dvorak.org slash NA. Support the show, will you?
	We're on the road here.
	And throw a burka on or throw a burka over that Kinect while you're at it.
	Or mud.
	Or mud.
	Or paint a third eye on your face.
	Apparently.
	And we have a No Agenda Producer update coming up with Ms.
	Mickey.
	She'll be telling you all about what's happening from her perspective here on the Hot Pockets 2009 tour.
	That will be on NoAgendaStream.com.
	Again, thanks to Chris and Lori Brashears and Mike Brashears, Vintage Airframes, for letting us hang out in front of Dottie Mae.
	M-A-E, everybody.
	Coming to you from Gitmo Nation Potato, where you can't get an Idaho potato.
	In the morning, everybody, my name is Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley, where you can get an Idaho potato, ironically enough, I'm John C. Dvorak.
	We'll be back on Thursday right here on No Agenda.
	There's the family you're born with.
	Yeah, you're a bigot.
	I am extremely tolerant.
	When they opened that Chipotle here, I was the first of my friends to go.
	And there's the family you choose.
	Why does a seemingly sane person gestate someone else's child?
	I need a way to change my daughter's life.
	$35,000 is a huge chunk of money.
	And you have no problem with doing this for two men?
	Oh, no.
	A family is a family.
	And love is love.
	Now who's going to be the bio dad?
	I am.
	Um...
	Uh-oh.
	This fall, the creator of Glee brings you the portrait of a family where different is the new normal.
	The work of a rock and the home of a rock, like what Simon and Garbungo would refer to as an island.
	Are those the doctors you work with?
	Oh my God!
	This is a nightmare.
	No, this ain't a nightmare.
	Last time I checked, it was 2012.
	Now why don't you take your racist mind back to the past?
	I feel like I just ate a black and gay stew.
	Wow.
	The New Normal.
	Tuesdays this fall, here on NBC. The best podcast in the universe!
	Shut up, slave!

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