Time for your Gitmo Nation media assassination episode 423.
This is no agenda.
Clearly suffering from severe IED here at Camp MoFo in the capital of the drone star states, Austin Tejas.
In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
And from northern Silicon Valley, where we still celebrate Americans' independence, I'm John C. Dvorak.
Happy 5th of July!
Yes, indeed.
What'd you do yesterday?
Cooked, watched fireworks.
Was it just you or did you have any of the kids there?
Everybody's around.
Oh, really?
That's nice.
Is it better to do 4th of July in the San Francisco area than it is up in the Washington area?
It depends on the year.
Generally speaking, I think it's actually better up there.
This year Mimi was up there and I was down here.
So she was going to go to bed.
Right, so not everyone was down there.
But a block away, apparently, in the backyard or the backfield of some school, it appeared as if somebody, because fireworks are legal there, someone had bought like $200 million worth of Indian fireworks.
We finally deconstructed the possibility that there was a surplus that the Indian tribes didn't sell.
Yeah, okay.
And it went on at least, it was apparently, and I was listening to it, it was like 10 times better than the Berkeley and San Francisco and Oakland fireworks displays combined with 20, 30 shells going off constantly all at once for two hours.
We had very little here, actually.
That surprises me.
Well, I'm surprised that they allowed fireworks at all, you know, it being kind of dry and stuff.
Yeah, it's a problem in general.
It's kind of raining in Washington, so...
Well, in general, I was thinking...
How weird is it that we don't have a nationwide ban on fireworks?
I mean, this is, of course, what an opportunity for terrorists to blow us up, you know?
It's like, it makes no sense.
Yeah, make the suggestion now that it's for sure next year.
It makes no sense that they let us do that.
I just didn't understand it at all.
Oh, man.
Well, in the morning to you, John C. Dvorak.
In the morning to you, Adam Curry.
In the morning to all ships at sea.
Boots.
I wonder if our ships at sea are still listening.
Of course.
Boots on the ground, subs in the water.
And all of our human resources in the chat room.
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Thank you all for joining us on this day after Independence Day and being all charged up and ready to go in that chat room.
Keeping us honest, as always.
Speaking of keeping him honest, I mean, wow.
I'm upset now.
Why?
Well, for a number of reasons, but, you know, I can't call Anderson Cooper Anderson Pooper anymore.
It's not funny now.
You know, this is weird when he did this, because I thought he already had done this.
Mm-mm.
And I thought you were calling him Anderson Pooper because it was funny.
Well, it was funny, but now it's not funny because now it's official that he's gay and now it's so slur.
It was still funny to me because I always thought it was official.
Yeah, but you're anti-homo.
No, I'm not.
I thought he came out of the closet years ago.
Where did I go wrong on this?
Well, the thing that's disturbing about it is, and this is the main report...
That went around.
Of course, if you don't know, Anderson Cooper is a journalist.
He's a Vanderbilt, actually.
When he walks anywhere, if you just look at the videos, he's got four security guys.
He's not a very tall man.
I'm not sure how tall he is because, of course, Wikipedia doesn't provide that information.
But he's not very tall.
Yeah, he looks like he's about 5'8".
He's always standing really...
No, I think he's shorter than 5'8".
You think?
Yeah, I think so.
I mean, look at this.
He's got a big head.
He's perfect for TV. And so I guess the daily, you know, he was kind of coerced.
To me, it seemed like this whole thing was rather orchestrated.
And here's the key line.
It's like distraction of the week, if you ask me.
Well, yeah.
And no, here's the key line from what comes from the press release.
And this was what was propagated.
So he came out in a letter to Andrew Sullivan.
What was it?
Daily Beast?
Yeah.
Sullivan, who is gay and is a longtime friend of Cooper's, had asked the CNN anchor for his reaction to a recent Entertainment Weekly story.
Here it comes.
The Art of Coming Out, which was, in part, about the importance of gay celebrities coming out of the closet to combat America's bullying epidemic.
Apparently there's an epidemic, John.
What is the definition of an epidemic, by the way?
I don't know, but it has nothing to do with bullying, I can tell you that.
It's an epidemic.
It is rampant.
Bullying is, and of course it's, go away, of course it's anti-gay bullying, no doubt.
Epidemic now in a widespread occurrence of an infectious disease in a community at a particular time.
So bullying is apparently a disease that is infectious, according to Entertainment Weekly.
So anyway, which is kind of important because as of July 1st, new law on the books in California, AB 1156, the anti-bullying bill from the California Assembly,
This bill, as of July 1st, 2012, would require that a pupil who has been determined by personnel of either the school district or residence or the school district or proposed enrollment to have been the victim of an act of bullying as defined, which I'll get to, committed by a pupil of the school district in the residence, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Of course, you will be expelled from school and you will go to jail.
Or actually, it'll be a state-run training facility, as it's stated here.
What is the definition of bullying?
Amongst others, at the very end of the clause, causing a reasonable pupil to experience substantial interference with his or her academic performance, or causing a reasonable pupil to experience substantial interference with his or her ability to participate in or benefit from the services, activities, or privileges provided by a school.
This is crazy, ladies and gentlemen.
This is completely nuts.
Because all you have to do is, I can't do my homework.
He's interfering with me.
This is just the beginning of the restriction of the First Amendment, your right to free speech.
We've said it so many times, but now it's gotten to a whole new level with this law, and this will be propagated across all 50 states in one form or the other, I'm sure.
But this definition of bullying, which, by the way, is a virus, according to Entertainment Weekly, is nuts.
John C. Dvorak, you are a constitutional scholar.
Your thoughts on this?
I think, yeah, I think you're correct in your assumptions.
I don't have any thoughts on it.
I think we've already nailed this in the beginning.
It's an attack on free speech and an abnegation of the old sticks and stones will never hurt me concept, which apparently has gone by the wayside.
Well, sticks and stones do hurt you.
Because most of this bullying we're talking about is verbal.
Right.
And so they're cranking it up a notch.
And both you and I received this story from one of our producers.
This is from North Texas.
And there's a lot in this story.
It's a very short blurb, but wow, it was like very, man, a lot of messages here.
A 15-year-old boy from North Texas who was shot in the forehead at close range had been bullied by another teenager accused in his killing.
Okay.
The suspect was 14 when he and another 14-year-old were arrested and charged in the March death of Nahum Martinez in Wiley, about 30 miles north of Dallas.
Prosecutors say Martinez, a freshman and a member of the cross-country team, was shot in the accused teen's bedroom, then wrapped in a comforter, dropped out of a second-story window.
I'm sorry I'm laughing, but this is crazy.
Um...
But the whole thing here was he had sent a note saying, well, you know, I was just kidding.
And according to the story, they were, quote, buddies, whatever that means.
So I guess what they're trying to propagate with this story is, yeah, you can stand up to bullies, but you really shouldn't because it could get out of hand.
You could kill someone.
This story is so artificial.
I mean, we don't even know the truth of any of it.
I mean, for one thing, what's he doing in the bully's bedroom, A? Yeah, well, they were buddies, so there's a little gay thing there, I think, that they're trying to say.
And there was the gay angle, and then there was just tossing him out the window seems rather sketchy.
Yeah.
And shooting him is another thing.
What did he expect?
You know, his death had to make a mess.
And it could have been an accidental shooting.
The kid apparently was seen around town with a gun, and he's an idiot.
He didn't know how to use it.
Yeah.
And then the bullying thing was questionable and the guy apologized.
I think they're trying to make something out of the story.
Yeah, don't stand up to bullies.
That's what I'm reading.
Well, it's a possibility.
Because you could mess up.
It could have all been a joke and guns are bad.
There's a whole bunch of stuff in this story.
It's totally fabricated.
It's a lot of mixed messages.
I don't think the story works as a propaganda tool.
No, it's too confusing.
They put too many messages in.
It's too confusing.
There's too many messages.
Fire that guy.
People, keep it simple.
Yeah, really.
Even we can't deconstruct your conflicting messages.
It's a mess.
And congratulations, John.
Oh, thank you very much.
I do have a clip.
You might as well play it and then we can talk about it.
Okay.
I haven't looked at your clips yet, but I know what it is.
Are you sure?
Oh, here it is.
Yes.
Yeah, that's the clip I was hoping you'd have.
Flags were flying as Madrid woke up to the morning after a night of glory.
And the previous evening's proceedings dominated the headlines, ranging from never been done before to Spain take third crown in a row.
The people are euphoric.
It's good for us.
I have faith in this country.
We were nervous about whether our team would do it again, so of course we were delighted.
Yeah, the slaves are happy.
There's no problem, no economic issues.
We're just partying.
And wow, what, I mean, four to zero.
Could it have been even any more rigged than that?
That was ridiculous.
I mean, the Italian goalie was just, like, in the wrong place all the time.
Like, did they dope him up or what?
All you need to do is get the goalie on board and you can win these games if the other goalie's not on board, especially.
So, of course...
I had called Italy.
You had called Spain from the get-go.
And I think that in the last week there, a lot of events shifted with the whole Euro banking breakthrough, and it really did shift right back onto Spain.
So you called it correctly, and I give you props for that.
Good job.
Good job.
Can't wait two years.
We have the World Cup.
We'll do it again.
Yeah, and I always say that the one thing that I want to kind of credit you for the basic theory of this corruption.
What a bro-fest here.
This is nice.
And so I... You used your theory to pick the right team.
You, I think, personally, was misinterpreting the activities that needed Spain to win and the activities that needed Italy to win.
Yes.
And I still think when you first picked Italy, I thought you were off the mark.
Well, the reason why is because I know that the...
The big piece of the puzzle in Euroland is Italy.
It's the seventh largest economy.
And there was a lot of noise about the Italian banks and the Italian economy.
And I thought that they would catch up with that in time for the finals.
And of course, Spain was in the middle of the news.
So I was just...
I mean, Italy's all going to happen.
I was just ahead of it.
I used the same formula.
I was just too ahead of myself.
And at the end of the day, we both picked the final guy, so that wasn't too bad.
No, it was pretty good.
And people are still wondering.
We've tried to explain this.
A lot of people just think it's weird that we've picked these things event after event, and we'll do it again.
Oh, yeah.
We'll keep doing it for sure.
And I'm not telling people to go wager.
No, because if we do that, then you know we'll lose.
That'll break the magic.
I don't think that'll work.
I want to give it in the morning to producers Mike and Jane, who stopped by yesterday.
They organized the meetup when we had the Hot Pockets 2008 tour.
And we bumped into them on Saturday at the farmer's market, so they came over.
And I just got to say, Jane made a homemade potato salad, which was off the hook.
And Mike makes bread himself.
No bread makers.
And he puts agave in there.
What an outstanding taste.
Really phenomenal.
And it's nice to have young kids around.
How old are these people?
28, 29.
I look at that like I'm almost 20 years older.
Hey, kids!
Come on!
You want to jump in the pool?
Exactly.
Come on, you kids!
You kids making bread, that's cute.
I think that's exactly the way I wanted to sound.
I couldn't quite pull it off.
I couldn't quite pull it off.
But it was nice because I can see that listening to the show is keeping them healthy.
You know, they're not making themselves sick with all the bull crap that's being poured into them.
Oh, yeah.
No, I think listening to the show is going to be beneficial for anybody.
Yeah.
Unless they hate it.
I mean, there are people that cannot listen to the show.
Yeah.
They're so plugged into the bull crap.
Yeah.
And they essentially have soaked it up to the point where listening to the show would blow up their personalities, I guess.
I don't know.
Yeah, it's impossible.
It would make them depressed.
I have no idea.
I mean, I've always been skeptical enough.
Even when I was at Cal Berkeley, there used to be, I think, an ironic bumper sticker that was very popular that said, question authority.
And this is what I've always thought you should do.
And then, curiously, though, when Obama gets in, all these same people that used to have that bumper sticker are all lockstep with Obama.
Oh, whatever, President.
Well, Mike said, actually, he said something very astute.
He said, you know, I really, and he's a Ron Paul guy.
I mean, he's got the Ron Paul hat, the bumper sticker, the, you know, everything.
And he says, I really hope Romney wins, because then at least, you know, the left will start protesting again.
We need that.
That's a good point.
Yeah, I thought that was actually a pretty...
Yeah, that was a good point.
Yeah, we need people to get in action again.
Because it's the same guy.
Now, officially, I think I saw the numbers, more people, more Americans killed in Afghanistan, not even to speak of how many Afghani civilians or still Iraqis, more killed during the Obama presidency than during the Bush presidency.
Yeah, it'll add up.
Yeah, it adds up, yeah.
Oh, speaking of which, killlist.curry.com, everybody.
Let's take a look.
We had our Tuesday meeting, the Kill List meeting, and what did we do?
We picked off five suspects in Yemen with a drone, and We're good to go.
Crazy how that happens.
Waziristan again, John.
Right there where that pipeline's coming through.
Coincidence.
Drone missile struck a house in the Shawau Valley where militants were reported to be hiding in the North Waziristan tribal region near the Afghan border.
Well, we got you, didn't we?
So we put those on killlist.curry.com.
I'm now dating it, each entry, every single time I add to the kill list.
And so far, every single show, I've been able to add a new entry to the kill list.
So we're doing quite good.
That's great.
Pretty soon we'll have killed everyone.
You know, there's so many things, so many places to go.
I think I should probably...
Hit you.
You know, you were kind of poo-pooing the LIBOR rate-fixing scandal, which is now taking place.
Yeah, I was poo-pooing.
And I think you're wrong.
I did listen to the British parliaments.
Yeah, I watched that whole thing.
Three hours.
Yeah, I watched it, too.
I almost got a clip out of it.
No, there was no clip in there.
You got a clip?
No, not from that particularly, because it was boring.
I have a good clip, though, from that meeting.
Which I thought was, at least got my attention.
Serious discussion about leaving the EU and what it would take for Britain to do it was being bantered back and forth between the Prime Minister and both sides of the aisle.
And the clip's a little long, but it's kind of fascinating because they're so matter-of-fact about, well, we could stay in.
It's very advantageous to stay in, but we don't want to do this, and we need to get some of our laws back.
We shouldn't have Brussels telling us what to do, and it's screwed up.
What would we do if we quit?
I thought it was weird.
It was so matter-of-fact.
A warm endorsement of Britain's continued presence in Europe.
Yeah.
But does he also agree with me that those who wish to take Britain out of Europe now have a duty to provide detail as to what the political and economic cost would be, rather than vague promises of the Elysian Fields?
I think my right-wing friend makes an important point, which is we need to make sure that the whole debate about our engagement in Europe is properly...
I do support our membership.
I do think the single market is vital for us and determining the rules of that market matter for us.
But I think it's important we air these facts and figures and the balance of competencies review that will be launched shortly will help, I think, all parties, all politicians, all parts of civic society in Britain to see some of the arguments and some of the facts and the figures and I think that will help inform the debate.
Mr.
David Miliband.
Thank you, Mr.
Speaker.
Further to that question, I wonder if there are any circumstances, further to his negotiations, in which the Prime Minister will recommend to the British people that they should leave the European Union?
As I said, I want to stay in the European Union because of the reasons I've given, but I will always stand up for the British national interest as I see it.
That is the job of being Prime Minister.
Mr.
Peter Lilly.
My right honourable friend will know that my opposition to excessive centralisation of power in Europe has never been in doubt.
Indeed, the only doubt which my Euroscepticism has given rise to was that which John Major cast upon my paternity.
But will he nonetheless agree with me that what we need is not a commitment to an in-out referendum, but a commitment to insisting that our partners give us back powers to govern ourselves if they want our agreement for them to subordinate themselves further to centralisation in Europe?
You know, I'm pissed now because just before the show, my entire system crashed because of all this bullcrap flash in Adobe that just seizes up your system.
And I was looking for a clip, which I had marked in my notes, from the European Parliament, where just before they did a whole bunch of votes, which we'll talk about, And Barroso stood up and said, yeah, hello to our UK contingent.
And he was waving his finger at them.
Like, I really don't like your prime minister talking about leaving the Eurozone.
This is bullcrap.
I don't want to hear that.
It was really a shut-up slave moment.
I'll have to find it for Sunday.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, I want to hear that.
He's referring to this specific incident.
Exactly.
And I'm so pissed now because I just ran out of time.
I had to reboot the machine.
But I'll mark that.
I'll make sure I get that.
I was actually...
I want to go back to this LIBOR thing.
Because, now, LIBOR is the London Interchange Bank Overnight Rate.
It really sets the interest rates for the entire world.
And, of course, this story coming out really is the scam.
This has been going on forever and ever.
It's no secret, only now we can point to a couple of banks, which is total bullcrap, because you can't do this with just a couple.
And this whole three hours that I watched, and I guess you watched it as well, It was nothing more...
It was like watching Rupert Murdoch.
You know, like, yes, there were some elements in the company.
I'm disgusted.
It makes me sick to my stomach.
You know, and it's like...
It's a show for the idiots.
So, you know, the news can pull some boring-ass clip, which we couldn't even find if something was so boring.
And they're probably all showing, oh, I'm disgusted.
It's just a single, you know, rogue traitors, rogue elements, whatever.
But on CNBC, they were talking about this.
And this is really the truth.
Oh boy, the truth on CNBC. What may be less trivial is this situation, this scandal involving LIBOR. Well, welcome to the banky industry.
I mean, come on, you know.
No, but you hear about these things.
You used to think that these were conspiracy theories, right?
You'd hear this about that people are manipulating.
Yeah, those idiots like Curry's, just conspiracy theories.
But it turns out it's true!
Five more people are manipulating the silver markets and you'd say...
And they are!
Well, it's because these markets have become so concentrated that a few players can do it.
If you had 20 or 30 clearing banks in the library, it would be harder to do it.
Do you think that they've conspired together, or they're just conspiring internally?
It's like all markets.
What are we going to hear?
We're just talking about guilds in Europe and the taxi industry.
It's the same thing.
They want to limit competition and increase their own spreads.
That's what this is all about.
But how bad is it going to get?
Is there a lot more?
You think there are many more shoes to drop?
Who knows?
It wouldn't surprise me.
I work in the city of London, so none of this surprises me.
I mean, it's the same old stuff.
Hey, what are you talking about, idiot?
We know this is going on.
Here's the problem with it, though.
Now, besides that it sets interest rates and they've been scamming, Every single derivative...
And what are derivatives now?
$600, $800 trillion?
I think President Obama actually admitted that he knew it was a $600 trillion market.
It's unbelievable.
Every single derivative...
It's based on LIBOR somewhere in the transaction.
I know.
I studied these.
I built a derivatives trading desk for Bankers Trust before they went out of business for falsifying derivatives trading.
They didn't know what they were doing.
The British guys know how to do it.
Well, it was all British guys.
And it's literally just like, I'll take this, I'll take that.
There's some faxes that exchange.
Nothing's documented.
There's no regulation.
But lawsuits are now starting to happen.
And this could unwind the entire derivatives trade.
If it turns out that more banks were involved and more people come forward, then people who have derivatives are going to say, well, hold on a second.
You were screwing me because you rigged the LIBOR rate, so I was either paying too much, too little, or whatever.
I mean, it's falsifying stuff.
And that's the danger of this, is that the derivatives market could start to unwind through lawsuits.
And I don't know if it's going to happen, but this certainly is an interesting crack.
I'll predict it's not going to happen, at least in any big way.
It'll probably happen with a couple of big players, especially after the first couple of people wind up dead.
$600 trillion?
I think there's a lot of potential here.
Yeah, for some actual two-to-the-head stuff.
Meanwhile, things still not right with the banks in Gitmo Nation East in the UK. It's interesting how, you know, this of course is the RBS NatWest software upgrade glitch.
But it's interesting how all the mistakes that are made, like people paying their mortgage twice, their car payments debited twice, no one's getting like a deposit twice.
Every single, and maybe it's because people get like, oh, I got extra money, I'm not going to say anything, but every single thing you read about this is about people getting screwed out of their money.
And now Santander has this problem.
So, you know, I'm not sure.
Is Santander part of RBS? I mean, I didn't think it was.
Who owns Santander?
Santander Bank.
I have no idea who owns it, but now they're having problems.
And they say, oh, you know, all the online systems, they're sluggish.
You know, oh, sorry, can't give you an accurate accounting.
I get...
Per day, maybe five, sometimes ten emails of people over in the UK saying, you know, I can't log on.
I'm getting, you know, account balances from three days ago.
So this is not just, you know, it's like something that's always one guy, a low-level guy who messed up the upgrade.
Please, you're so insulting to me.
It's the largest bank in the Eurozone.
Spanish banking.
Well, they got a problem.
Okay, well, there you go.
So they have a problem with their online system.
Something is happening.
I'm just thinking more and more of these banks doing whatever they can just to not have to pay anything.
It's like what you do at home.
Yeah, you don't pick up the phone.
You didn't get it?
You see the caller ID. You know, it's like, oh, it's another bill collector.
Don't answer the phone!
Don't answer that!
You know, and wait until you get your check in.
So, zombies abound there in the Eurozone.
It's not good.
It's not good.
Before we continue, how did we do?
Did we do okay for a July where no one cares about us?
Well, we just got by.
We do have an executive producer and an associate executive producer.
Hey, we have a 423 Club member.
That's nice.
Yeah, we have Bill Hertha in Thornhill, Ontario, $423.
He'll be executive producer for show 423 with 423.
Let me offer my best wishes to Adam and Mickey.
Oh, interesting.
He misspelled Mickey the same way you did in your email, John.
Thanks for that.
Did I spell it wrong?
Again.
I didn't spell it M-I-C-K-Y. After I sent you a note saying, hey, before you send this out, please change it.
The spell checker must have reset it.
You can teach it words, you know.
You can tell it to learn the spelling.
Anyway, Miss Mickey received that.
...without the E on their upcoming wedding.
I'd like to thank both of you for bi-weekly mental floss, my regular cleansing of the mental crud that is deposited by the crap I hear on the regular media.
Thank you very much.
The donation puts me over the top, and he's going to be a knighthood, and he's got some accounting there.
Yeah, Miss Mickey is on the list, you know.
She's like, does John just really hate me?
She's not saying that.
I'm telling you, Mickey, Mickey, it was a spell checker.
Sir Anonymous in Napierville, Illinois, $200.
Thanks to the best podcast in the universe.
Looking for some job karma.
And karma from Mickey, M-I-C-K-Y, and Adam, a karma double shot if that's possible.
We'll just count it twice.
Thank you so much.
You've got karma.
Yeah, we leave on Monday.
And Sir Anonymous is...
That means we've got work to do, my friend.
That means Sir Anonymous is...
What?
Associate executive producer.
I'm sorry, I'm slow today.
And that's it?
Yeah, that's it.
That's two people.
Right.
Yesterday was a holiday.
A holiday only in America.
How about the rest of the world?
Yeah, the rest of the world cares.
The rest of the world discontinues.
Spain won, you know.
So they have to drink all night.
Um...
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And even though I've stopped this initiative, I could not pass up the opportunity to thank two producers who did register some domain names for us.
And I'm okay with mentioning these.
John in Nebraska.
No.
Yeah, I think he is.
Yeah, he's at the University of Nebraska, I think.
Anyway, he registered DroneU.com, as in Drone University, and that's foreign-to-know-agenda-show.com.
And a lot of people still trying to come up with words for the autonomous drone fleet that will soon be flying over our skies, making their own internal autonomous kill decisions.
We had Guardian Angels.
We had, well, of course, Skynet.
And, um, uh, who was this?
I didn't get his name.
I'm going to have to, I'll put it in the show notes.
He registered Obama's little helpers.com, which I thought was kind of a good one.
So if you'd like to send someone to our show site, uh, just send them to Obama's little helpers.com.
It's something we all can remember.
And of course you can always go out and do something very important, which is propagating our formula.
Our formula is this.
We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
All right, little girl, tell them all about it.
Shep's Blade.
Never gets old.
But she says it so angrily.
Yeah.
Just let me just...
Shut up, slave!
You know that girl was growing up to be no good.
No, she'll be good.
Well, she'll actually be excellent.
But it's like her...
She's going to be a mean date.
Yeah, for sure.
For sure.
Well, we could stay in the Eurozone for a little bit.
That seems to be...
Boy, this was fantastic.
We had this big breakthrough, as Haiku Herman called it.
The big breakthrough for growth and stability in the Eurozone.
And the euro popped up, and what is it?
It's right back down where it was, I think.
It should be headed south.
Back down to 124.
The man, we're a big fan of Nigel Farage, of course, had to stand up in the European Parliament and say a few words.
I don't have to ask you.
I know you'll love hearing him.
Well, that's the 19th crisis summit that Mr Cameron's been to.
As the Rolling Stones might say, the 19th nervous breakdown.
And that's reflected, I think, by the funereal mood in this chamber this morning.
Yes, on that Friday morning, breakthrough was cried.
And indeed, Mr Van Rompuy parroted the word this morning, breakthrough.
Nobody believes you.
The wheels are coming off.
This European stability mechanism, your new bailout vehicle, is doomed before it starts.
We have legal challenges in Ireland and in Germany.
We have the Estonian Justice Minister saying it won't fit their constitution.
But most fun of all, the Finns and the Dutch seem to have broken the agreement that was made in the middle of the night.
Perhaps they were excluded from this.
Perhaps the little countries don't have a say in Europe at all anymore.
It's not credible.
And I think the euro crisis now looks to me to be, frankly, insoluble.
And there's also a massive crisis of leadership.
You know, it's lovely to see you, Mr Van Rompuy.
You've not been here for many months.
It's delightful to have you back.
Last time you were here, you told us we'd turn the corner.
By the way, you have to watch this video in the show notes, 423.nashownotes.com.
Van Rompuy is so uncomfortable with this.
He doesn't know what to do.
His hands are moving all over.
Calling him out for never showing up is something.
Well, you think that's bad.
Wait until you hear what he says to Barroso, which you and I could have thought up this line.
This is a great line.
That the worst of the crisis was over.
And with every one of your predictions, it goes on getting worse.
I'm sorry, sir.
You don't have the presence, the credibility or the standing for the international markets to believe that you can provide a solution.
And Mr Barroso here at the G20, when he stood up at the press conference and said, we don't need any lessons in democracy, said the unelected President of the European Commission.
I mean, he went on to say...
How funny is that?
That's a good one.
He's genius.
...problems had been caused by unorthodox practices in North America.
You've made yourselves an international laughingstock.
You don't have any credibility, but one piece of helpful advice from me.
Don't, this summer, go on any billionaire's yachts on extended holidays, because the market's guarantee we'll all be back here in August.
Thank you.
I couldn't have said it better myself.
I wonder what billionaires they've been hanging out with, because that's obviously a reference to some specific incident.
Oh, yeah.
That's alerting all of the media.
Oh, crap.
We've got to go down to the south of France.
We've got to go see who's getting on the ship.
So let me just give you a little rundown of what's happening in the Euro land zone.
So Nigel spoke about Finland and the Netherlands, as we discussed, blocking the ESM, the European Stability Mechanism, which, as you remember, was not supposed to be implemented for another year or two.
And I called this.
I said, this thing is going to be moved forward.
This is the big one.
It's a blank check.
It starts off with 700 billion euros paid for by all the slaves from your taxes.
Of course, your countries don't have the taxes.
They have to borrow the money to hand over.
It's now going directly into the bank.
So that's your tax money going directly into commercial companies, i.e. banks, to recapitalize the whole system.
Great.
Right.
And if there's a cash call, countries have seven days to ante up.
Otherwise, you go to jail or whatever.
Something bad happens to you.
And the Netherlands was like, you know, you heard Nigel Farage there say, well, you know, they don't count.
You did it in the middle of the night.
The Netherlands can't vote on stuff like this because they have a decommissioned cabinet.
They don't have elections until, you know, the cabinet fell over this very issue.
But it doesn't matter.
As it turns out, I have the...
Here I have it here.
They cannot block the emergency funds.
You'll recall, maybe if you remember...
We're going through how the voting structure works, and we basically figured out if France and Germany say yes to anything, all the other countries can just go pound sand.
So indeed, for the ESM, only 85% of the votes are necessary.
The Netherlands and Finland are too small to block the decisions, but it's all moot point anyway because the Dutch Senate approved...
The ESM Eurozone Rescue Fund just two days ago, and so now that's a shoe-in, even though by law they really can't even make decisions like this.
So that's done.
And literally your tax money or whatever you're on the hook for as a taxpayer, because your countries will borrow it, is going directly to banks, which is just ludicrous.
It's like the banks are...
So, I see you have a clip, so I'd love to hear your clip.
And this is a red herring distraction, by the way.
And I have the reasoning why.
ACTA, the super secret...
What is it called?
A copyright act that the entire world is signing on to that we've been told we could not know about in its entirety because there will be riots in the streets.
This is what our politicians here have told us.
The Eurozone rejected ACTA in their vote.
And you have a clip here of that?
Yeah, this is a rundown on...
I had to actually cut this way back because there's a...
Because it was boring.
It was run on RT, so it had all its nastiness to it about, the Americans and the Australians signed it, but the Europeans were smart enough not to kind of angle.
And this is the story, basically.
Our top story, then a sigh of relief from Europe's internet users.
The EU Parliament rejected the notorious online piracy treaty ACTA. The anti-counterfeiting trade agreement was drafted to protect internet copyright laws, but met with widespread outrage in Europe for threatening people's web freedom.
Well, my colleague Anissa Naui but earlier spoke with the Citizens Advocacy Group founder Jeremy Zimmerman.
He believes that copyright laws must be reformed, but not at the expense of online users.
This victory must be the beginning of something else.
And through the victory on ACTA, we hope that the EU policymakers will understand that this endless spiral of repression that is being pushed for the last 15 years by the entertainment industry has to stop.
That combating our cultural practices online is not an option and would only be done at the expense of our fundamental freedoms and of the very fabric of what is a free internet.
So we have concrete proposals and they're already on the table of the EU policy makers about reforming copyright, about making our cultural practices legal, that sharing and remix of cultural goods be made legal into the law so we can end this war against sharing Certainly people are going to be arguing that ditching ACTA could be a green light for pirates and fraudsters to openly defy copyright law.
Briefly, what do you say to that argument?
Well, what I say is that it's the notion of copyright itself that should be revised.
We all have the capacity today to participate in culture, to share, to rip, to remix.
We are all participants to culture, and it is a fundamental right.
It is copyright that should be adapted to society and not the other way around.
All right.
Great words there, French guy.
However, the EU Commissioner of International Trade, that would be a Belgian guy, and he's a very interesting fellow.
His name is Karel de Gucht.
Here's his words.
And I quote, I don't have any audio or video, unfortunately, but he said the following.
Just before the vote.
If you decide for a negative vote before the European Court rules, let me tell you, the Commission will nonetheless continue to pursue the current procedure before the Court as we are entitled to.
A negative vote will not stop the proceedings before the Court of Justice.
So he's going to kick this up a notch.
If the Court questions the conformity of the agreement with the treaties, we will assess at that stage how this can be addressed.
So he goes on to say, at the end here, once we will have identified and discussed the possible clarifications, I would intend to make a second request for consent to the European Parliament, whether the Parliament will consider it under this legislature, or the subsequent one will be for you to decide.
So what he's saying is...
This is the same thing they said to the Irish.
Yeah, it's basically...
Shut up, slave!
Yeah, we're going to keep voting until you vote yes.
Yeah.
You voted no?
Okay, just do it again.
Even if it's the next parliament.
You know, it's like, well, just do it again.
We don't give a crap about it.
You know, this guy, Karel de Kucht, this guy is a total a-hole.
You should look at his wiki page.
I didn't spell it.
K-A-R-E-L. Okay, hold on a second.
Okay.
K-A-R-E-L. Space.
Uh-huh.
D-E. Uh-huh.
Space.
G-U-C-H-T. G-U-C-H-T. This guy, he was involved in insider trading.
Like here, November 2008, he was minister in the federal government.
He looks like a dick.
Exactly.
He was accused of insider trading in the case of the near bankruptcy and subsequent nationalization and sale of Fortis Bank.
On October 3rd, 2008, his wife, Mireille, And brother-in-law sold their shares in Fortis Bunk after a government crisis meeting to deal with the precarious financial situation of the bank hours before the public announcement that the Dutch arm of the bank would be nationalized.
And he says, hey man, they sold like 500,000 euros worth of Fortis shares before the news came out.
He's like, no man, I didn't tell them anything.
They were just, you know...
It got lucky.
It got lucky.
Exactly.
In a 2007 interview, he said the following about the Lisbon Treaty.
The aim of the Constitutional Treaty was to be more readable.
The aim of this treaty is to be unreadable.
The Constitution aimed to be clear, whereas this treaty had to be unclear.
It is a success.
This guy is numero uno douchebag.
Douchebag.
Well, he's obviously working for Hollywood interests.
Yeah, but just look at his history.
Yeah, he's a sleazeball.
He's a total sleazeball.
So here's what the...
Well, that was a good catch, by the way.
Well, here's the stuff that kind of threw me for a loop.
So everyone's talking about act to act to act to.
But during the same session, here's the things that the members of European Parliament did approve.
A series of reports by the Agriculture Committee on Agricultural Policy, which I'm looking into for Sunday's show.
They approved three deals to improve trade terms with Russia.
That would be oil and gas.
Adopted a report on proposals to make direct payments for farmers fairer across the EU.
Agenda 21.
Adopted a report on the mandate for trilog negotiations on the 2013 budget.
No idea what that means.
Adopted a report on the EU strategy for the protection of animals.
Yeah, and they will be more protected than humans, I'm sure.
Adopt a resolution on the establishment of an EU legal framework for the protection of stray pets and animals.
There you go.
Adopt a resolution calling for all EU citizens to have access to a basic bank account.
Of course.
We need to have your money electronic, bitches.
You can't have any cash anymore.
And then some other stuff.
So I'm going to look into the agriculture thing, the direct payments to the farmers, and this banking thing is troubling.
What was that other one you said you didn't get?
It was Trilog?
What was that referring to?
Yeah, the Trilog.
Where is it?
Trilog?
Yeah, Trilog.
I guess there's a dialogue and there's a Trilog.
Adopt a report on the mandate for the Trilog negotiations.
Well, let's take a look at the Book of Knowledge, if there's any entry for it.
Trilog.
I guess that's three parties, so who could that be?
The Trilog.
United States, Russia, and them?
I don't know.
Yeah, something like that.
And I do want to try something here by doing some French news, since we have exactly one listener in France.
Oh yeah, the French hate us.
Yeah.
And so very interesting, Sarkozy...
And apparently, you know, I'm coming to the conclusion they're cheap too.
Just like the Indians.
So Sarkozy and Carla Bruni have fled to Canada...
They have left the country.
Of course, his political immunity ended on June 16th when he was no longer the president.
And, you know, it turns out that, well, there's a couple things going on.
One, it seems that there's a $100 billion hole in the budget that wasn't clear, that they didn't know about.
That's not just popped up on the radar.
It's all over the French press.
He still is being investigated.
And they've had police officers and inspectors raid his home.
So they actually raided his home and came out with boxes.
You know, that's usually not a good look.
No, I don't think that's a good thing to see.
But here's some of the stuff that the French are getting pretty angry about.
And here's your smoking gun.
Sarkozy, during his reign of terror, ordered 264 opinion polls about himself, while president, at a cost of 6.35 billion euros.
Wow!
Wow!
I thought you were going to say 6 million.
6.35 billion euros.
And according to what I'm reading...
That sounds pretty corrupt.
Those opinion polls shouldn't cost that much.
But here's the problem.
During 2009 and 2010, all of these opinion polls came back with the same answer.
The guy more popular than you is Dominique Strauss-Kahn.
Four months later, Strauss-Kahn Arrested for humping a maid.
Right, and then further arrested, because he came back to it, once that fell apart, he came back to France to high popularity again, so they had to screw with him.
Again, again, yeah.
So they busted him, running a prostitute, and that turns out he was a pimp!
His wife finally got fed up with the whole thing and left him.
He's like, yo, Dominique, man, DSK, bro, easy on the pimping, okay?
Isn't that crazy?
Yeah, that's great.
And I'll do one more and then I'll get out of the...
That's pretty dirty.
Anyway, but Sarkozy has fled.
He's in Canada.
He's hiding out.
And this, by the way, I don't think is...
I don't think this is public knowledge yet.
Let me see.
Mr.
Oil is feeding me this one.
He who happens to be in France right now.
Boy gets around.
Yeah, apparently he left the night before the raid on the last flight out to Canada.
Before the raid.
Oh, man.
The German Secret Service, the BND, Bundesnachtrichtendienst, in 2009 received the mission to find out what would happen if the economic stimuli across the Eurozone would Would not work or what it would take to stop the inevitable.
And their report has now been leaked.
And they say that unless 10 trillion euros is invested, and I think the total amount that was invested is more like 3 in the Eurozone.
Would you say that's about right?
3.2, I think, is the number.
I actually don't remember.
It's somewhere around that number, between 3 and 4.
According to the German Secret Service, if they don't invest at least 10 trillion dollars within 3 years, that would be now, this report was done in 2009, Within three years, World War III would erupt.
That's a good one.
That's not a good one.
That's not good.
No.
Well, I mean, it's a good find.
Yeah, and we can put our heads in the sand all we want, but this is happening.
This is actually happening around us.
Banks, like, making software upgrade mistakes.
They're like, hey, you know, those guys were cheating on LIBOR, derivatives falling apart.
Come on, man.
We live in interesting times, Confucius.
So Sarkozy ran off to hang out, or to be coddled by the fourth richest Canadian, this guy De Mare.
Oh, you have the news that he's there now?
Yeah, it's actually been running in the British papers.
And so he's apparently ran off to, this guy's worth $4.5 billion, which is chicken feed by comparison to somebody.
I mean, this guy's low level.
Yeah.
But he came under fire after Sarkozy, apparently, was taking bribes from Lillian Betancourt, L'Oreal Harris.
Yeah, that's what the whole investigation is about.
Yeah, that's what the investigation is about.
And so the whole thing is falling apart for this guy.
So he's in Quebec.
I give him six months before Carla Bruni kicks him out.
Oh, she'll be out of there.
She can't put up with this.
She's going to go back to Mick Jagger or something.
Someone a little more less political.
Yeah, no, I agree with that.
In fact, we can put it in the Red Book.
Yeah, I mean, she's not going to stand for this.
You know, she was living large, first lady of France.
You know, the only downside is she had to wear her flat shoes, couldn't wear high heels.
And she's done with that now.
I can just see her.
Nicolas, I'm done.
I'm done with you.
And I'm going to put on my high heels, you little twerp.
I have a musical career to attend to.
Yeah, women like that love wearing big heels.
Yeah.
And she's beautiful.
She doesn't need this hassle.
He really doesn't need the hassle.
I'm sorry.
So the Desmarais family also maintains relationships with the French Dassault Industrial Dynasties, Peugeot and Rothschild, among others.
They're aircraft people, Dassault.
Yeah.
They're also in a nice Saint-Emilion winery, by the way.
You would know that, wouldn't you?
I've had it.
It's good wine.
Interesting.
This is going to be good.
I think this will be worth following.
Give us a little French news for a change.
Yeah, well maybe our one French listener can kick in and give us some info.
That's the best thing you can do is feed us some information.
Let us know what you're seeing on the street.
Send us a message through Minitel.
Whatever it is.
Minitel.
And while you're at it, consider supporting the show, you cheap bastards.
Yeah, that's for sure.
So...
Anyway...
Same old script.
They're doing it again.
It just can't get enough of how they're trying to attack Syria.
So, you know, we've tried everything.
We've got, you know, we did our Geneva meeting.
Man, not too much came out of it.
By the way, Lucifer Clippity Clop Clinton took our advice.
Where is she going this week?
Where is she going to be tomorrow?
Paris?
Of course, she needs to.
I mean, if you've seen what she's been looking like.
Her hair looks like crap, so you watch.
She's going to look fabulous.
Yeah, for about two or three days.
Why doesn't she have a full-time professional?
She's got the budget.
No, but the French hairdressers, they don't travel.
They're like, you come to me, Hilary.
Hilary, you come to me.
I don't feel like traveling to all your crazy destinations.
I think there'd be somebody they could send to hang out with her.
The last time I saw her, she was at this thing about slave trading, which I didn't get a clip for it, but I might for the next show.
She was wearing a ponytail.
She's gone that far off.
When women are fed up with their hair, it's ponytail time.
They just pull it back, ponytail, which is kind of a cool look, but not on her.
Not on a woman that's 70.
Please, now don't be ageist.
Isn't she?
No, she's not.
At least that woman.
No.
She's under 60.
I'm being aged.
She's 63.
Okay, well, almost 70.
So, WikiLeaks.
Oh, we have all the communications about how bad the Assad regime is.
Woo!
And all the horrible companies that are sending weapons.
What a coincidence.
Oh, and you know, this is such a setup.
And of course, it's not like they released the two million documents to us.
No, says WikiLeaks at WikiLeaks.org, which I thought didn't work anymore, but it apparently just works.
Over the next two months, groundbreaking stories derived from the files will appear in Al-Akbar in Lebanon, Al-Mazri Al-Yom in Egypt, ARD in Germany, Associated Press in the U.S., L'Espresso in Italy, ONI in France, Publico in España.
All other publications will announce themselves closer to the publishing date.
We've seen this before.
This is how the CIA does it.
And all of a sudden, Julian Assange is our hero again.
And they've released three or four documents this morning, because this is a release from today.
And the first one is an Italian company, Finmechanica.
They were supplying communications equipment to the Syrian police, the bastards.
Come on, man!
So this is just, who are we going to call out?
Who is our enemy?
Who are we going to make like a doofus?
And of course we're going to make Assad look like a total a-hole, which is being done in conjunction with my favorite institution, don't be confused by the name, Human Rights Watch.
Now, Human Rights Watch receives an annual $100 million grant from the George Soros Open Society Foundation.
And they've come out with a damning report, I tell you.
Headline!
We made them suck their own blood off the floor!
Headline!
Headline from the report.
We took their fingernails out with pliers and made them eat them.
We made them suck their own blood off the floor, grisly accounts from inside Syria's 27 torture centers.
Yes, Human Rights Watch report released as Syrian President Bashar al-Assad says he regrets the shooting down of a Turkish jet.
These people are horrible.
Detainees were beaten with batons and cables, burned with acid, sexually assaulted, and their fingernails torn out and had to suck their own blood.
So I'm like, I gotta read this report.
There's some good stuff in here.
So you want to always look at the report and what it's based on.
And this is what I do as a government legislation analyst.
This report is based on 200 interviews conducted by Human Rights Watch since the beginning of the anti-government demonstrations in Syria.
Most of these interviews were conducted by telephone and Skype.
That's their proof.
This whole report is based on 200 people they Skyped with who said, hey man, they were pulling out our fingernails and made us suck the blood.
I'm sorry.
It sounds pretty far-fetched.
This is bullcrap.
And look who's behind the report.
Come on, people.
But these headlines, it's just too much.
Oh yeah, no, this guy's toast.
And this was fantastic.
I think this was CNN. You're going to love this.
So CNN, I think it's CNN. We'll know in a second.
There's a journalist who escaped, a Syrian journalist, from that television station that got blowed up, the state television station.
Right.
No, it actually wasn't.
It was an independent television station that was promoting state issues.
Right.
Correct.
Correct.
So you're going to hear this journalist explain to you how horribly corrupt the media is in Syria.
Now the fun exercise here is whenever he says Syria just think America.
Whenever he says Assad think CIA or Bush or Obama or fill in the blank or Tony Blair or Cameron.
This is how it works.
He's actually explaining how it works but of course we're led to believe this only happened in Syria.
Great little opening music.
Syria's Al-Akbaria network portrays a reasonably straightforward world.
I think maybe it's a BBC report, actually.
A brave government leads the fight against foreign-led terrorists.
Every day, the channel broadcasts the same message.
Atan Sleiba reveals how it's done.
He used to be one of the network's reporters.
And last week, he defected and escaped.
He defected.
Great word, by the way.
Defected.
To Turkey.
To Turkey.
We talk to people before we interview them.
Ooh, we did a pre-interview!
Syrian citizens don't know anything.
They don't know what to say.
So we tell them what to say on TV to get the best report that we need.
As a journalist, my success is in getting the report to the channel.
I do the reporting and I present it to the citizens, to the nation.
For example, we tell the interviewees to say to us that they support Bashar al-Assad and that they will always support him.
And they accept this and they say whatever I tell them.
We do this to please the authorities who watch us.
Does this sound familiar at all?
This is exactly what we do.
At the channel, who gives the instructions about what you can say and what you can't say?
The Bath Party sometimes appoints a representative to give orders on their behalf.
That's a PR company.
They generally contact us using a PR agency.
We have the PR person with the CEO even, depending on what part of the media you're with.
Exactly.
And they won't let the guy say anything other than what they allow him to say.
Exactly.
Through an information office where our orders come from.
Hello, Sebastian.
The committee tells us to go and film this particular event, to take pictures of the martyred and so on.
Right.
Yes?
Did you broadcast anything that you knew was false?
We produce the news according to what the channel's managers want.
If I produce a report that echoes their opinion, then I get a bonus.
But if it's based on my opinion, without representing their view, it won't get on air.
For example, Syria's energy minister says there is plenty of petrol available.
But in reality, there aren't enough supplies in the country.
We journalists are liars to the nation.
People can't trust us.
And this situation is frustrating.
The guy who is the BBC, I'm sorry.
The guy who's doing this interview must be thinking, crap, man.
Sounds familiar.
We're liars to the nation.
Hey, clip of the day.
Oh, my goodness.
Oh, you're so kind.
Well, hold on a second.
That's, well, I'll take it.
Clip of the day.
We are liars to the nation.
How awesome is that?
How awesome?
There's like 26 seconds.
Oh, play it.
Play the whole thing again.
I mean, it's fantastic.
Your allies, Qatar and Saudi Arabia, are really financially pouring arms into Syria.
If you stand so, you know, so principally against the influx of arms into Syria, can't you lean on your allies to stop doing so?
Saeed, we've talked about this many, many times here today.
We've made our decision, other countries...
Sorry, I'm completely in the wrong clip.
They have gone out just in time.
On the same day that he arrived in Turkey, gunmen raided one of the channel's offices near Damascus.
They destroyed its studios and killed seven staff members.
Because they were made to lie.
Talking about misleading the public, it was a known fact, because it was taken credit for, that that TV station was raided and blowed up by the rebels.
Yeah.
So now they're trying to imply that it was the government that did because of this guy defecting?
Give me a break.
No, I just thought it was hilarious how he's actually telling us how the news works.
Oh, no, that's the best part, because that's exactly the way it works everywhere.
Except on this show, by the way.
We've been in the media, so this morning I didn't have a chance to clip it.
I saw on CNN, who's our friend who used to be on the tech TV, CNET, what's her name?
On CNN? The black girl.
Come on, come on, come on.
Soledad.
Soledad O'Brien.
Oh, Soledad.
No, she was never, she was on MSNBC. She was never on tech TV. No, but she did techie stuff, didn't she?
Mm-mm.
Didn't she do this?
She ran something called The Sight, but it wasn't, it was kind of, she was just a kind of a host.
I know.
I've worked with her.
I've worked with her.
I've met her.
I've talked to her.
I've chatted with her for, I didn't work with her except maybe two or three times, but I've had enough conversations.
She's one of the sweetest people I've ever met.
She's very sweet.
She's super cute.
And she's really trying to make her mark during the summer weeks on CNN because she gets to fill in for Anderson and She was put on the fast track to become an NBC heavy duty national.
Something went wrong.
They were training her on MSNBC when it was more of a tech channel.
And then somewhere along the line, she got bumped by some other, you know, multi-culti looking woman who then disappeared.
And she got fed up and left.
So this morning, just before the top of the hour, they come back from a break and there's four people at the table.
And this is a news show.
And she says, well, we've got to interesting news.
Taco Bell is now doing healthy food.
Gourmet food at Taco Bell.
And they've all got a plate of healthy Taco Bell food in front of them.
And literally, they're like, wow, this is really good.
Yeah, and it's healthy, too.
And it's like, I mean, at least give me the pleasure of putting a little bug in the bottom saying this is an ad.
Yeah.
It was a complete advertisement, and even the desk lit up with the new SLOGO, the Cantina Bell menu, whatever it is, with Chef Lorena Garcia.
It was so unbelievable.
Yeah, that's been a funny clip.
It's on CNN, right?
Yeah, it'll show up somewhere.
It's so corrupt.
I was just like, wow, how can you do that?
So anyway, the clip that I misfired here was, so we had two State Department press conferences, July 2nd and July 3rd, which were posted very late, and I got them this morning and missed all of my Adobe Flash blow-up.
And just hilarious how open it is now.
We're trying to follow Syria and give you some real insight and some real information.
And so what's happening now is the Saudis, Saudi Arabia, they are sending weapons and guns and probably troops and al-Qaeda or whatever into Syria.
And of course Turkey's going to get all the blame for it, but the Saudis are doing it.
And so this is just being discussed immediately.
Completely openly in the State Department press briefings as if it's the most normal thing in the world and everybody knows it.
Your allies, Qatar and Saudi Arabia, are really financing and pouring arms into Syria.
If you stand so principally against the influx of arms into Syria, can't you lean on your allies to stop doing so?
Said, we've talked about this many, many times here today.
We've made our decision.
Other countries are making other decisions.
Our goal now is to try to stay coordinated on all of these issues having to do with the opposition.
Yeah.
So we all know it.
We all know Saudi Arabia is sending weapons and money and everything.
That's their business.
It's not like they do whatever we tell them to do.
It's not like we have any relationship with the Saudis or anything.
And she's like, you know, hey, that's what they do.
We do this, you know, this most normal thing in the world.
We do this, they do that, and that's that.
Yeah, whatever, you know, it's all good.
So the Friends of Syria...
It's all good.
The Friends of Syria are meeting in Paris, chosen by Lucifer Hillary Clinton, so that she can get her hair done.
And I've been trying to figure out who's at the table there.
And one of the parties is GTZ. And the GTZ is the Deutsche Gesellschaft für Internationale Zusammenarbeit.
This is the...
When East and West Germany...
Or when East Germany...
We had the reunification?
Right.
This is a mega, mega corporation, which was many companies rolled into one.
They have a huge, huge building, I think, in Berlin.
And if you watch the movie, which I've mentioned before, Katastroika, you'll see that these guys as a whole, like, 15 minutes on them.
These guys are at the table.
They're in the working group.
In America, we call them the GTZ is their acronym.
And they are already divvying up all of the assets of Syria.
That's what the meeting is about.
And I got this huge article, which I can't even get through, but you can look at it in the show notes, 423.nashownotes.com.
These guys are already...
I mean, the whole meeting is not about what are we going to do.
It's like, who gets what?
That's what this whole working group is about.
Yeah.
Obviously.
This is the kind of thing that started World War I. Well there you go.
I mean, they like to do these meetings.
They do this certain elite layer.
They put these meetings together, and that's exactly what they do.
They divvy things up.
It's just like Iraq.
When they started drawing, actually, I think Africa and the Middle East, when they started drawing boundary lines, that this country will end here and the other country will start there, it's all done like this.
Where's the border between one African country and another?
It's determined by one of these meetings by these Europeans.
At least we're in the meeting.
We're definitely in the meeting.
I'm sure that they resent that, by the way.
What?
Yeah, we're in the meeting.
Europeans.
Who resents it?
The Europeans, they don't like us being in these meetings.
I mean, Hillary's pushed herself into the top of the heap, and it's like, God has to annoy these guys.
Well, there's so much happening.
There's so much jockeying for position.
Donald Rumsfeld was in Georgia last week.
Why?
Well, because we need to bring the gas pipelines through Georgia.
Remember Lucifer was there like two or three weeks ago?
No, he's a pitchman now.
He's a pitchman for whatever pipeline or security for the pipelines, whatever it is.
And who else shows up?
Haiku Herman shows up in Georgia.
They're all going to Georgia to, you know, ensure that the guy's on board.
Because, you know, the guy is insane.
He eats his thighs.
He's clinically insane, Sakasvili.
So they've got to keep their eye on him and make sure that everything's okay.
Because, you know, he's not a member of NATO yet, and that's what he wants.
So they keep dangling the carrot in front of him.
But they need to bring that pipeline through so then, you know, we can screw the Russians up.
And that's why we're still there.
We've got to bypass all the Russians and get it straight from Turkmenistan.
I'm sorry, Azerbaijan.
So Boku, Azerbaijan, right through Georgia, and then across the water there, and then pipe it through Turkey.
I mean, just look at the players.
Just look at the players.
And then, you know, Russia is still like, oh man, we're losing our Syria deal.
You know, they're trying to work it out with Israel so they can go through Cyprus.
It's a big race.
The big race is on.
Yeah, there's some arms deals involved in this too.
Oh yeah.
Oh yeah.
And guess what?
We're not involved in any of them.
No, in fact, it's not even being reported to the public, this whole thing with the Rumsfeld in Georgia.
I mean, I've been noticing less and less weird stuff is being reported to the public.
I got this...
Hold on a second, John.
You're telling me that it's not valuable to know that Taco Bell is now serving gourmet food?
I'm going to see if I can find a clip of that.
I guess that Doritos thing is crapping out.
I'm going to see if I can find the clip of that.
You definitely have to get that clip.
Chat room, help me out here.
Hook a brother up.
I mean, there's a number of things that Americans never find out about.
One, and somebody pointed, I think it was Jace Buzzkill Jr.
that pointed out that there's like an edict about...
About Jew, anything about Israel, internal or anything about Israel is not to be reported by anybody for whatever reason.
But of course other media outlets, international ones, have no problem.
The biggest scandal going on right now is they want to...
There's a group of, when you go to Israel, you see these people all over the place.
They're ultra-Orthodox Jews.
Right, they've got all the strings hanging down.
They've got the hat, and they're wearing black, and they've got a crazy hat.
No, I like the hat.
The hat, I think, is badass.
The hat is weird.
You could refold that to a pimp hat.
I like those hats.
And by the way, a lot of Jewish people don't like the Orthodox Jews.
No, most of them don't, and the Israelis really don't like them.
Many of them come from a couple of Brooklyn cults.
And they're all over Israel.
And the thing about them is they're kind of warmongers, but they refuse to take part in the military because it's beneath them.
And I have a report that you'll never hear in American news that's right here.
The army, we are hurting this principle of separation.
The problem is that the ultra-Orthodox Jewish community has grown over the decades from just a handful.
Now tens of thousands are exempt from what should be compulsory military service in Israel.
Many Israelis are resentful of the fact that ultra-Orthodox Jews live off government stipends.
Full-time religious studies mean few are employed in the standard labor market.
There is a growing narrative here about how the rest of the country is footing the bill for this one community.
I think that every Israeli citizen should have individual rights and individual responsibilities, and they should be drafted as individuals, and they should serve, and they should serve honorably.
There's no doubt that the ultra-Orthodox should serve in the army.
There's no reason why my 18-year-old friend should be protecting them at checkpoints, whilst they're just sitting at home.
It's become the top political issue, more so than others because criticism of the ultra-Orthodox community is part of a perpetual debate about the character of Israel, how secular it should be, or how Jewish.
Any decision by the government to put these men into the military would disrupt their personal quest, they say, for spiritual growth and reflection.
Have you heard about this?
No, of course not.
The number one topic?
No.
Say what?
Okay, whatever.
No, no, no.
Do you have something to say about this?
No, I knew this was going to come to a head someday, because they keep flocking over there, and it's just like, it just bugs, because I know Israelis, and they just hate these people, and they moan about it.
I was taken through one of their communities by one of these ultra-Orthodox haters, and he says, these people live like, they live like pigs.
He says...
He takes me to this neighborhood.
Yeah, all the garbage is outside.
There's dogs barking and everything.
It's really like being in the worst kind of slum in, you know, like a favela in Brazil.
It's terrible.
Wow.
Now, while you were wasting your time trying to find some actual news, here's what the chat room found.
Fundamentally, what do you think people are going to be looking for in what you're offering versus what they can get to?
To me, listen, I'm putting my name, I'm putting my face, I'm putting my reputation on the line for this menu, so I'm bringing that choice, I'm bringing that difference, I'm bringing the focus that you're going to be able to have the first bite and you're going to be able to go for more.
So specifically what?
So instead of what I have here, which looks like...
You know, I was raised on my rice bowl, you know?
I love cilantro, everybody knows that.
So I wanted to have that as a common thread throughout my menu.
I bring the black beans that I was raised on, black beans and rice.
You're going to be able to have this wonderful grilled chicken that is made with this wonderful marinade.
They're all my recipes.
You have the grilled corn.
This is CNN promoting the gourmet menu.
Here it is.
This is from Starting Point.
That's the name of the show.
I like the wonderful marinade.
She uses an adjective to describe everything.
Well, let's listen to some more, because Taco Bell goes...
This is Chef Lorena Garcia.
I brought some vegetables in the sweetness of the corn.
They got a sauce.
I have a cilantro sauce that is delicious.
It's coming on top.
Yeah, I got that heavy on the cilantro.
I'm very visual, so you're going to be able to see it.
I like to see my food.
And this isn't the report that I even saw this morning.
This is a whole different report.
So they're doing it over and over again.
Oh, you didn't have the Mexican chef?
No, is she Mexican?
Yeah, I guess so, Garcia.
I hope so.
Now she's got one of the better fake accents.
She's known for having a very economic menu.
A dollar, two dollars.
Yours are going to cost a little bit more.
But one thing that people don't know, many people don't know, is that in Taco Bell you can actually get your money back if you're unsatisfied.
They have a money back guarantee, but wait, there's more!
That's what your news is doing, ladies and gentlemen.
Thanks, Thorne, in the chat room for finding that one.
I wish you could find the other one.
They're doing it over and over.
This is product placement, plain and simple.
You think?
And host endorsement.
Yeah, the whole panel is there.
Yeah, they're all endorsing it.
This is a disgusting episode in the history of broadcasting.
Well, the good news is no one saw it.
Yeah, I guess that's true.
Interesting news out of Chicago.
Now, of course, run by Rahm Emanuel, the bathhouse buddy of our president.
The Chicago chapter of the Council on American Islamic Relations, we've spoken about this before, CARE, issued a press release announcing that Chicago Mayor Rahm Emanuel, President Obama's former chief of staff, has announced an office of New Americans Advisory has announced an office of New Americans Advisory Committee that includes the executive director of CARE in Chicago, Ahmed Rehab.
Yeah.
That took a lot of guts.
Now, CARE, for those of you who don't know, is noted as one of the, quote, unindicted defendants of the Holy Land Foundation trial, which pretty much puts CARE as a front for terrorism.
Yeah, it is.
It's totally a front.
And this, of course, is the Muslim Brotherhood.
And here it is.
The committee's goal, that he is now going to be an advisor to, is to generate recommendations, develop strategies, and present an overall vision to promote the city's economic vitality and ensure global competitiveness by becoming the most immigrant-friendly city in the world.
Hmm.
All you terrorists out there, Chicago welcomes you.
But being Chicago, I mean, what can we tie into this?
How am I supposed to train?
I mean, my brain is hurting from this.
I don't know.
This has to be followed.
Something else is going on.
We know the Obama administration loves the Muslim Brotherhood.
But, you know, to put them in charge of reshaping the city of Chicago, a little brazen.
Yeah, you think someone might notice.
No, apparently not.
Apparently the media hasn't picked it up.
And by the way, you know, this Saturday, I don't have a clip about this, but this Saturday are the Libyan elections.
Oh, yeah, that'll be great.
And so they expect, because they have the same slate of thousands of candidates, but they...
It's debatable whether or not they're going to slip in some Muslim Brotherhood style, some Islamists, some Salafists or something.
Of course they will.
Of course.
That's the whole idea.
We got Egypt.
We're going to have Libya.
And eventually, we're going to have that in Syria.
Yeah, that's the whole idea here.
Mentioning elections, you know, we had a big election south of the border, and we have a new perhaps president-elect in Mexico, although that's being disputed.
There's all kinds of voting fraud going on.
But very quickly, the United States came out and said, Congratulations!
The president's like, Hey, congratulations!
A good-looking man, by the way.
Yeah, he's a handsome fellow.
This came up in the July 2nd State Department briefing.
The question was, how come you're so quick to congratulate this guy when it's not really...
Been proven yet that he's, you know, there's a little investigation going on.
You know, he's not really the president-elect yet officially.
The answer is just too beautiful to be true.
Tangentially related to Mexico, which is just...
Why are you so quick to congratulate the president-elect on partial results when you refuse to do that for...
Do you hear what he said?
You refuse to do that for someone.
For Putin.
For Putin.
Oh, for Putin.
Which is a great question.
Come on, that's a great question.
That's that same guy who answers all these poignant, or asks all the poignant questions.
That's Matt, yeah.
That's Matt, yeah.
Matt kicks ass.
Here we go.
Well, we have good confidence in these preliminary results and in the integrity.
As I said, we have good confidence.
Well, you know, as you often point out, Matt, we're not always consistent.
Hold on, hold on.
That was good she admitted that.
We're not always consistent.
No, we're not always consistent.
That's our government at work.
Not always consistent.
And it also tells us that Obama does not like Putin.
And Putin does not...
And we saw it.
We know that, yeah.
If you see any picture of the two of them together and Putin is leaning...
Yeah.
He's going to fall out of his chair leaning away from Obama.
Yeah, it's a little obvious.
He really does not like Obama at all.
No.
It's quite obvious what's going on there.
And he got along fine with Bush.
They used to hang out at the ranch, shoot things.
Yeah, there's some good pictures of them.
Hey, George, let's go shoot some things.
We're talking about news again before we get into our donation segment, which is going to be short.
Yeah.
Do you know about the mystery disease sweeping Cambodia?
Mystery disease sweeping Cambodia?
See, this is another example.
See, I've changed all my news-watching habits.
You have changed your diet.
This is another unreported story, by the way.
When it crops up, when it finally shows up in this U.S. of A., it's going to be, you know, there'll be some vaccine.
There'll be some scam involved, but right now there's no scam involved, so it's just a story, and listen to it.
And now, word of a deadly illness has only increased the daily lines of those seeking medical help.
Outside this hospital in Phnom Penh, thousands wait to see a doctor.
I'm so worried about this mysterious sickness.
I only want my child to get better.
Just what is killing Cambodia's children remains unknown.
Doctors have recorded the same pathosyntoms.
First a fever, often swelling in the brain, and then the sudden destruction of a child's lungs.
All these cases were hospitalized here.
Now, totally 66 cases and 64 cases have died.
Wow.
Again, unreported.
Again, our news media is not of interest.
It's just that apparently kids, and they're between the ages of one and three, they're little kids, are catching this thing left and right, and nobody can identify it.
They have not been able to find out what it is that's causing it.
There's just complete mystery to everyone so far.
High acceptance and uptake of Gardasil preventative vaccine in Phnom Penh, Cambodia.
That's where I'm looking.
Well, it's possible.
That's where I go.
But these are young kids, right?
Yeah, they're one to two-year-olds, basically.
So let's do UN... This is how we do the research.
Vaccinations, Cambodia.
Let's just see what they're shooting them up with.
What are we shooting them up with there?
H1N1 vaccines.
Probably testing something.
Probably testing some vaccine.
That's what I'd say.
I'd say they're testing a vaccine.
It's a possibility.
I'm not going to argue that it's not possible because we've seen this kind of thing before.
It's like, who gives a shit?
The population's too high in these areas anyway.
We ran out of African kids.
No, we ran out of African kids to kill.
Yeah, they've gotten a clue they won't take the vaccines anymore.
I'm going to show myself the world by donating to no agenda.
Imagine all the people who could do that.
Oh yeah, that'd be fab.
Yeah, on your agenda.
It's time for the vaccines.
In the morning.
I want to thank a few people for helping us out on show 423.
And we have 424 coming up, which is a palindrome.
Oh, that's right.
It's the same forwards as backwards.
Yeah, 424.
423 is not bad.
It's got two, a three, and a four.
It doesn't have a one.
But we do have a $100 from Sir John Smith in St.
Petersburg, Florida, staying in my cabin in North Carolina prepping for the zombie apocalypse.
I think the reason people love zombie apocalypse shows isn't the zombies, but the freedom derived from the end of the world.
We'd rather deal with the zombies than the government.
Both want their pound of flesh, but we can kill zombies.
Well, yeah.
A little off the wall, but okay.
Thanks, Sir John.
Brian Rogers in Newton, New Jersey, 7777.
Joseph Gaz in Wilmington, Delaware, $76.
Joe and Gitmo Nation cheesesteak.
I'm betting donations are down.
iTunes sent the show late.
I'm going to send out a note to everybody who's on the mailing list this week or the beginning of next week to explain what we're doing and why it happened and where the dangers are and how you can help.
Fourth of July holiday in the U.S. and it's summer.
Show number one would be an interesting return since you first talked about Ron Paul.
Karma shout out to Be Positive Foundation, providing financial and emotional support to families of children with cancer and raising money for childhood cancer research.
In fact, only 4% of all federal cancer research funding is dedicated to pediatric cancer research.
Really?
So give them Karma.
Karma, sure.
You thought karma.
Yeah, didn't know that.
Typical.
Dave Ritterer, Evergreen, Colorado.
Ah!
6969.
Greetings from beautiful Colorado and congratulations to Adam and Mickey.
Enjoy your...
Misspelled.
Enjoy your honeymoon.
Have you ever thought about the greatest speech ever made as an end of show clip?
This is a speech by Charlie Chaplin from The Great Dictator.
It's true today as it was in 1940.
I don't need any karma, but I can get a Hey, Citizen, MILF and an In the Morning followed by a Huntsman for my beautiful wife, Claire.
Well, that's a little more complicated.
Hey, Citizen, MILF and then Huntsman.
Hey, Citizen, MILF, in the morning?
Jeez.
You got four.
Hey, Citizen, MILF, in the morning, and then Huntsman.
Okay.
Hey, Citizen.
MILF. That's one mother I'd like to.
In the morning.
Tough sequence.
That was good.
That was one of your best.
Adam Redenauer in Kettering, Ohio, 6969.
Congratulations to Adam, Mickey, and you take a shot at karma.
You've got karma.
And continuing the trend, Karsten O. Schwartzen something.
I get my spreadsheets cut some off.
Karsten O. Schwartz Nielsen.
O. Schwartz Nielsen in somewhere.
I don't know what that is.
Default.
Yeah, Lange.
It says default.
Default.
From default.
Anyway, he's 6969 too.
As I get older, I truly enjoy and exercise the right to be a dirty old man.
So I gotta keep you on a roll with the 69-69.
Keep up this, your eternal struggle to expose the phony media and keep shaking the foundations of the boners guild so we can get them out of the closet.
Slide whistle's great, but don't forget the Dutch lessons.
They're still hilarious.
And thanks for giving me enlightenment and a smile on my face.
If I can get it, I'd like an In the Morning Citizen from Adam on the megaphone followed by some holiday karma.
In the morning, citizen!
Here's some holiday karma.
Don't be afraid.
You're not.
Karma.
Paul Simon in Toronto, Ontario, 6907.
Sirs, it's Canada Day and I'm getting drunk listening to my eighth episode of Warming Up to the Idea of Donating when Buzzkill starts to show off with a well-timed shout-out to Gizmo Poutine.
Excuse me, I think we need a drunk Canadian for this?
Hey.
Hey.
Hey, it's Ganata today.
I'm getting drunk.
Listening to my eighth episode of Warming Up to the Idea of Donating When Buzzkill Starts to Show Off with a well-timed shout-out, eh?
To Gitmo Poutine.
No wonder that I reached for my loony bin when you two clowns blaming us for inventing geese and ripping us hosers for being douchebags.
Well...
We don't stand for it.
We are hosers, not douchebags.
Here's a protest donation.
True saying, it's not too soon because here I know all the jingles, but you give me no choice.
Here's 69 bucks so I can get some fireworks tonight and seven more cents to the side whistle homage.
I'll take a huntsman karma because it's starting to annoy you guys a bit.
And hopefully it'll get me a new gig so I tell off the only real douchebag up here, my boss.
Now let this be a lesson that you don't mess with Gitmo North or next time we'll put the Biebs on your prime time.
Oh wait, we already did that.
You've got karma.
It could be used a little work, but it was entertaining nonetheless.
If I get into my Canadian sound, I get better.
David Atima in Hinton, Iowa, $58.
My fiancé and I are donating on behalf of my father for his birthday July 5th.
My brother introduced him to the show months ago and never donated, so would like to call Jonathan Atima a douchebag.
You sure it's not Atima?
Could be Atima, could be Atima.
I would like to dedouche Bernie Atima, or Atima, and although he has never donated, he does propagate the formula every chance he gets.
Give him 58 for his 58th birthday.
I would like to give him obey, shut up, slave, two to the head.
God, man, really.
Obey, shut up, slave, two to the head.
And that's it?
No karma?
No, it was.
You know, he didn't want karma.
He wants this.
Give it to him.
Okay.
You will obey.
Shut up, slay.
Anyway, they're in the process of starting a business, and it'll all be done professionally.
Probably become more regular donors.
Happy birthday, Dad, from David and Rose.
Here's a two to the head.
Happy birthday, Dad.
Nice.
Somebody got two to the head.
Anonymous in Texas, somewhere around you, I suppose.
I'm a Ron Paul supporter that is active in the Republican Party, and this could be used against me by the rhinos.
I heard about this show from Twit and started listening in November.
I'm a new donor and need two shows per week.
Sorry it took so long to donate, 5777.
My wife is diagnosed with breast cancer in December, like a de-douching and a milf for her, Amy.
I keep the slide whistle.
I saw a No Agenda shirt at the Texas State Convention.
Yay!
Keep up the great work and do not change a thing.
Donodronelist.com.
Donodronelist.com.
Donodronelist.
I wish you could put that as the title of the show.
Donodronelist.
Donodronelist with you.
This is our new code word in the morning.
Donodronelist.
Donodronelist will eventually point to no agenda.
You can sell subscriptions.
The douching in MILF. And is there a karma in there?
Donna Drontalist.
Alright, de-douching in MILF. Here we go.
You've been de-douched.
MILF. That's one more I'd like to.
I'm gonna give her some fuck cancer karma.
Just...
You've got karma.
Okay, here we go.
Anonymous Drunk gives us 55.55.
Hello, Johnny and Adam.
Please keep me anonymous because I'm donating drunk.
I started listening to the best podcast in the universe after Adam's appearance on Twitter, and this is my first donation, so I need a de-doaching.
I'm a German living in Portugal and it makes total sense to me that Portugal did not win the European Championship.
Portuguese people never really complain about anything.
As long as a coffee in a bar is cheaper than 70 cents and you can have a small beer for under a dollar 20 euros.
That is why it makes more sense to let the Spanish win as they tend to start occupying public places when they are unsatisfied.
As I have to return to Germany soon, I request getting laid karma to make the departure a little easier and distract me from the fact that as soon as I have to return to being a human resource working for Das Merkle, please keep up the good work.
You've got karma.
It's a great place to hang out.
Yeah.
Actually, he needed a de-douching, too.
I'm sorry.
You've been de-douched.
Seth Ralston in Worthington, Ohio, 5510.
I've been a douchebag, spelled weirdly, for far too long.
Two people I've hit in the mouth have donated.
Now it's my turn.
If it's your will, bestow on me some house refinance karma.
Good luck with that.
We were expecting to close on Thursday, but due to some paperwork issues, it's not looking good.
It's because it's a scam.
He thinks they want a blood sample.
All right.
Well, here's some refi karma.
We hope it works for you.
Let us know if that actually worked.
Yeah, because it doesn't seem to want to.
Because there's no refinancing really available.
Robert Gould in Toronto, Ontario, 5510.
Double legal's on a dime and a church karma shout-out to Christina Fabiani for transferring her $110.43 worth of donations to my Almost a Nightclub fund.
With her help and today's donation, I'm close to topping off many years' worth of donations and I'll be a night before the iPhone 5 comes out.
It's just Christina.
Yeah.
You've got karma.
Well, she came in on Robert's account.
Right, right.
Got it.
Yeah, Christina, get us something cool.
Keith Miller, Canton, Ohio.
Double nickels on the dime.
I'm not drunk, but JCD's drunk voice always makes me laugh.
I'm donating on behalf of my little brother Kyle Miller's 28th birthday on July 5th.
I got him listening years ago, and he probably loves the best podcast in the universe more than I do.
We both have painfully long commutes and would be lost without the show.
Thanks for all the news and entertainment.
My brother would love a birthday shot.
I would have got him on the list.
Yeah, Richard Terry, Houston, Texas.
Down in old Houston.
$5,268 is my last amount of employment.
Please give me some karma for the new job and a new place to live.
You've got karma.
Hans Petterfeld in Oslo.
$50.
Greetings from Oslo, Norway.
Have a good marriage.
Yeah.
I love you guys.
Thanks for the show.
Shout out to the Hackery.
All right.
What's the Hackery?
It's probably some restaurants.
Forget the Hackery.
What's up with us getting married?
News to me.
Confusing.
Eon Larson, Auckland, 50 bucks.
First, I don't drink and don't do bath salts or weed, so I can't get John to do a funny voice, which is value in itself.
I know you get a lot of emails and probably won't have time to deal with this one on the show, but I've listened faithfully to the show since episode 183 and was an executive producer of show 333.
I'm planning to contribute next month as a birthday present for myself and a wedding celebration for Adam and Ms.
Mickey.
But in line with my policy of only offering production input with production contribution, I offer the following along with the $50 contribution.
Please remember that the EU monetary crisis is not being kind to the exchange rates for the Gitmo Nation Kiwi, so it cost me near on $64.
Recently, I felt quite strongly about two things Adam has mentioned and wanted to get them off my chest.
One, Adam's recent concerns about the use of the word homophobic raised the question.
There is really no such word in relation to irrational fear of homosexuality.
Using the definition below, the word homophobic would refer to an irrational fear of things that are the same.
In other words, homogenous.
Okay.
He says it should be gay-phobic.
Yeah, okay.
Well, you're splitting hairs.
Well, you're splitting.
It's a commonality usage.
It's really more idiomatic than it is accurate.
Oh, thank you.
I love it when you...
It's sexy when you talk like that.
Idiomatic.
Just say that to me.
Idiomatic.
It's idiomatic.
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Number one...
So we're leaving on Monday.
We come back.
We have exactly one week before the kickoff of the Hot Pockets 2009 tour, which is in peril right now.
I do not have a trailer.
No one has come forward.
I mean, in all of the state of Texas, all the people that listen to the show, there's no trailer.
So, I mean, we're planning to go on this trip.
We've got producers ready and everything.
There's no trailer.
I can't even rent a trailer because these donations, you know, we're in July.
Everything sucks in July.
We're about to take two shows off after Sunday.
Well, no, they're going to be a show.
I explained in the email.
But no donation segments.
We won't be able to remind people.
Oh, well, yeah.
Then there's that.
Then there's the drop-off.
This is serious crap.
Yeah, and I want people to listen to those two upcoming shows because the show 200.6 should be quite entertaining.
I do want to mention Kyle Kinzel, who is a monthly donor.
I'd like some border-crossing karma for my family and I as we head back to the U.S. from our fishing trip up in Canada.
Would be greatly appreciated.
Yeah, you're going to need it.
No kidding.
You've got karma.
Well, anyway, so light, and if you could help us out, a trailer or a lot more on the donations on the upper end, we'd have to rent one.
I mean, I don't know.
Otherwise, what are we going to do?
We're just going to throw everything in the pickup truck and just dry it, and we're going to sleep.
Hotels.
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Hotels?
Motels.
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Hey, we had that New Zealand donor.
Have you seen what.com is up to?
The last I read is that they're blaming Joe Biden for this?
Yeah,.com has a bunch of pictures of Joe Biden, I guess, doing lip kisses to people from the MPAA and RIAA, and I guess he documented a massive meeting that took place with the White House and the Hollywood interests the day before they said it.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
And he says that Obama, he believes that this whole incident that took place, which completely turns out to be illegal in New Zealand, the whole thing was a quid pro quo to Hollywood by the Obama administration to get them to donate more.
Well, this is a good strategy that we should be using.
If you don't donate, we're going to arrest you.
I like it.
Well, those guys are smart.
Yeah, they run the ball.
Obama's guys, if nothing else, they know how to run a campaign.
So let me think.
Do you think that the Hollywood media will report a lot on this story?
Or do you think that they'll decide nothing?
Well, it hasn't been reported on by anybody, except us.
Where did you read it?
I read it somewhere.
It's on his blog.
Oh, right, okay.
Well, it's clear, John, you and I are obviously suffering from IED. Which is Improvised Electronic Disability?
I don't know.
No.
IED, of course, we know.
Improvised Explosive Device.
Yes, carefully chosen for the same acronym as an Improvised Explosive Device, but no.
A big study came out.
Big study.
Big, big study.
5% of all kids suffer from IED. An even larger percentage of adolescents suffer from IED. Can I guess what it means?
Yeah.
Improvised explosive diarrhea.
You're not far off the mark.
Intermittent explosive disorder.
Yes, this is a part of DSM, the bible for mental illness.
Does this have anything to do with spontaneous human combustion?
No, I know you've been tracking that, but no.
Oh yeah.
That's my only crackpot item.
Around the age of 12 or earlier, many kids, over 5% of all adolescents between the ages of 13 and 17, according to a new study, report they have suffered attacks of anger or are destructive, frightening, and wildly out of proportion to any provocation.
This is known as IED, Intermittent Explosive Disorder.
Wow.
So if you get mad now...
No, no.
Well, John, we have to make sure.
Let's just see.
Have you or any member of your family suffered from the following symptoms?
It's a very short quiz, and the way this is diagnosed is your doctor will sit down and speak with you and ask you these questions.
If you can answer yes to any of them, then you can be diagnosed with intermittent explosive disorder.
Question number one.
Have you had several discrete episodes of failure to resist aggressive impulses that result in serious assaultive acts or destruction of property?
Yes, of course.
Oh, sorry.
I'm sorry.
Shoot me.
You already have it.
Two.
Have you ever experienced the degree of aggressiveness expressed during these episodes to be grossly out of proportion to any precipitating psychological stressors?
And C. The aggressive episodes, are they...
Not better accounted for by a different mental disorder.
Well, that we don't know.
That's a hard question to answer.
It's okay, because there's good news.
You can be treated for this.
Oh!
Yes, treatments.
According to the Mayo Clinic...
That's a shocker.
Now, there is no one single treatment that's best for everyone with intermittent explosive disorder.
Treatment generally includes medication...
An individual or group therapy.
Many different types of drugs are used to help control intermittent explosive disorder.
I knew it.
Let's see.
We have antidepressants such as fluoxetine, which would be Prozac, and paroxetine, which is Paxil, so you can take those, or anticonvulsants.
Anti-convulsants?
It's like it stops you from going into convulsions?
Which would be Tegretol, or Dilanitin, or Neurotonin, or Lamacitol.
Wow, I've never heard of these.
These sound great.
How about warm milk?
Well, no.
You can also try anti-anxiety agents from the benzodiazepine family, such as Valium.
Ooh!
Ativan, more Xanax, and you could also try, John, mood regulators such as lithium.
Ah, yes.
So we're good to go.
I think we should get diagnosed on this and get us some cool-ass drugs.
So meanwhile, of course, you mentioned Paxil and some of these other drugs.
Oh, Dr.
Drew?
We might as well be aware of the fact, and you have the clip, a drug company was busted for a few bucks.
Oh, really?
Hold on a second.
Where's your clip?
Oh, here it is.
Yes.
This was an interesting one.
Pharmaceutical giant GlaxoSmithKline is to pay the equivalent of 2.3 billion euros in the largest healthcare fraud settlement in US history.
Pending court approval, the agreement should resolve allegations that the British drugmaker broke US laws in the marketing and development of three of its major drugs.
Washington claims the size of the settlement is unprecedented.
Healthcare fraud is an epidemic that touches every aspect of our lives.
And yet, for far too long, we've heard that the pharmaceutical industry views these settlements as merely the cost of doing business.
That's why this administration is committed to using every available tool to defeat healthcare fraud.
The company has already admitted promoting two drugs for unapproved usage, while in the case of a third, its diabetes drug, Avandia, it failed to reveal health risks.
Anywhere between 50 and 100,000 diabetics had unnecessary, unneeded heart attacks or death due to the drug of Andia.
This drug hurt a lot of people.
GSK is also to be monitored for five years after being found guilty of paying kickbacks to doctors.
The company's current CEO said the misconduct originated in a different era and would not be tolerated today.
Oh, yeah, right.
It wasn't my fault.
That wasn't on my watch.
Well, the best part of the news, of course, about this case is that it turns out that Dr.
Drew, who I have called out as a shill for the pharmaceutical industry.
We caught it early.
Oh, we caught him on so many occasions.
Was paid $275,000 for two days of work.
To deliver, quote, messages about Wellbutrin SR in settings where it did not appear that Dr.
Pinsky was speaking for GlaxoSmithKline.
That's what his contract states.
Wait a minute.
Didn't the CEO just say this is a bygone era, this sort of corruption?
Didn't he just say that?
I heard that.
I heard that.
I think Dr.
Drew should be fired from CNN. Yeah.
Yeah.
For being a shill.
And the funny thing is, the situation in which he brought this up was apparently one of the side effects of, what was the drug he was pimping?
Well, whatever it is.
Yeah, well, well, well, butrin is, uh, well, butrin.
And I looked for the clip.
I couldn't find it.
Uh, apparently one of his patients was, you know, on the show talking about how she had 60 orgasms in a row.
That's one of the side effects.
And he's like, yeah, that's actually quite, uh, that's, uh, some people enjoy that.
Can you imagine having 60 orgasms in a row of this thing?
Oh my god.
I'd be so tired.
I can't do the show, man.
During the 15-minute segment, Dr.
Pinsky communicated key campaign messages.
The spot is almost a textbook for the way drug companies have used speakers to promote medicines.
Everything Pinsky says is reasonable.
Anecdotally, Welbutrin does seem to have few sexual side effects, but Pinsky's comments had the effect of giving airtime to a use of a medicine that Glaxo was not supposed to promote.
Wasn't it that exactly what they said in this lawsuit that they were doing and then they were corrupting doctors?
And didn't the CEO come out and say that was a bygone era?
We don't tolerate that anymore and here it is right now in front of us?
Dr.
Drew wasn't...
Am I missing something?
Dr.
Drew wasn't alone.
He was one of a long list of experts listed in the complaint that the government says were paid by Glaxo as part of its promotional efforts.
Requests for commitment were sent to a manager for Pinsky, a publicist who had represented him, and through his HLN website, but were not immediately returned.
Dr.
Drew should be fired.
He should be disbarred or disemboweled.
They should take his medical license away from him.
He should never be allowed to show up as an expert anymore.
And Sanjay Gupta, here.
Yo, bitch, I got my eyes on you.
You're next.
You will show up next.
Because it doesn't matter.
These people, whether they'll promote Taco Bell, they'll promote Glaxo.
And they'll cover it as news and whatever.
Great stuff.
Yeah, and people watch this crap.
Let me see if...
Graxo hired Dr.
Pinsky, blah, blah, blah.
There's some other things.
He had paid Dr.
Pinsky $100,000 in March, $175,000 in April.
God, what a gig.
Yeah, it's sure better than our gig.
Wow.
Of course, we at least can sleep at night, although I'm sure he can sleep at night, too.
He's got plenty of pills he can take.
Yeah, Dr.
Pinsky noted that the drug could explain a woman suddenly having 60 orgasms in one night.
Yeah, this is bullcrap, of course.
The only reason you would say that on the air is to get people to buy it.
Yeah, because some women who probably have trouble having orgasms think, well, maybe I should try this.
This sounds pretty cool.
Hey, women, if you're having trouble with orgasms, try a different guy.
That's my suggestion.
Jeez.
Anyway, we called him on that.
So, I've got to take a really unpopular stance on something here, but it's really been annoying me.
I've been keeping...
I knew that this clip, which is 29 seconds from the BBC, I knew that it would come back and there was a reason for it.
And this is how I track things.
I've got a pretty good system of archives, and it's like, I'll stick that away because I know it's going to come up.
Here's a clip from a few weeks ago as aired on the BBC. There are around 34 million people in the world who are infected with HIV AIDS. Of those, around a million will die this year as a result of the illness.
Those fortunate enough to be given or to be able to afford treatment usually take a cocktail of antiretroviral drugs.
Lots of pills, in other words.
However, a new single pill drug for HIV treatment has been developed after extensive clinical trials in the US. It's called QUAD. So Quad is a new pill that has had extensive clinical trials, and the recommendation actually is you might even just want to take Quad, just even if you're going to have sex.
And you may have noticed, and I didn't pull a clip because it made me so angry, I couldn't even listen to it, but the FDA approved the first over-the-counter self-administered HIV home test kit to detect the presence of antibodies to HIV type 1 and type 2.
And you do this by swabbing your cheek.
Now what's interesting about the story is, and we know that we've learned from Gardasil, that the testing guys and the guys who have the fix are always in bed together.
So the new systems that test for HPV, for a human papillomavirus, they are set to deliver a high set of false positives so that the shot can be sold to you.
And here we have a home testing kit for HIV, not for AIDS, but HIV type 1, type 2.
And I've done a lot of research into this, and it's time for me to just take my stand and say it because I'm angry about this.
This home testing kit...
It has a 5% false positive when you don't have it and a 1% false positive if you do have it and it wouldn't register.
So in 99% of the cases, if you have HIV antibodies, type 1, type 2, in your system...
Excuse me.
Only 1% of the times it will not correctly identify it.
If you don't have HIV type 1 and type 2 in your system, 5% it will misdiagnose that.
And of course, the availability of the home use test kit provides another option for individuals to get tested so they can seek medical care if appropriate.
Basically, you get the kit, you test it, and you should go anyway.
That's basically what they're saying.
I am one of millions of people, but really the ones who speak out about it are very, very few.
It's not a popular stance that the HIV, the human deficiency virus, does not necessarily kill you.
I believe the drugs that are then administered to you are the things that kill you.
And I've seen this over and over again.
Many people I know, friends, have died of AIDS. And there is a consensus in the scientific community as well, not just me, that if you go back to the 70s and the 80s, really, late 70s, 80s, when this was prevalent and why amongst gay men, because you have this human immune deficiency virus, which through healthy eating and vitamins you can get rid of in a matter of weeks.
But if you're doing all kinds of unhealthy things, like doing poppers, snorting coke, drinking, doing crazy stuff...
Why are you doing that?
I think you've gone down the toilet with this one.
I... This is what you used to hear.
Hold on a second.
Let me finish it.
I seriously believe that HIV, that the virus, and John, I have read at least 10 books about this.
And there are many people in the gay community saying the same thing.
So, you know, I've done more research than you have on this.
And I believe that the drug, and with this test, this now proves to me, they just want to get you on this freaking pill, and none of it is good.
Now, you're saying I'm going down the tubes on this?
This particular spiel was very popular in the 90s, and then it fell into disrepute.
Much of it was promoted by the retrovirus expert of experts at the University of California, whose name eludes me.
By the way, the HIV thing began in the 80s.
There was no 70s HIV, period.
Despite all the reading you did.
You know, I've talked to people at Genentech and other places and they've been trying, you know, because when this thing first happened, I remember reading about it when it first came out.
I think it was 83 when it first got discovered and it was becoming an epidemic really quick because nobody knew what the hell was going on.
The litany then was, well, just give it seven years.
Seven years was the rule.
Anything that we know we've identified, in seven years we can have a virus, a vaccination for it.
And then the problem was, of course, this thing was...
I would rather hear the notion that this was dreamed up at that Maryland facility...
By the U.S. government to kill off half of Africa than the spiel that these drugs are killing people.
Although, the drugs are not healthy.
And the fact that they would tell you just to take the drugs over the counter is probably not a good thing.
I agree with that.
So, you have a very poor and weak argument.
Of course, you didn't have the same amount of time to prepare as I did.
I didn't have any.
I didn't expect you to come off the wall with this.
And AIDS most definitely was detected in the 70s.
I said late 70s.
Most definitely.
Most definitely.
No.
No, not most definitely.
It was realized the term grid was misleading.
AIDS was introduced in a meeting in July 1982.
By September 1982, the CDC started using the name AIDS. Yeah, I'm talking about HIV. Not AIDS. I'm still not seeing anything in 1970.
What are you looking at, the frickin' Wikipedia?
I'm looking at stuff.
And by the way, I have a similar stance on cancer as well.
Well, fine.
Fine.
And I'm not on the, you know, it was like, I don't believe the monkey theory, like some guy had sex with a monkey.
I don't believe any of that.
And I've done a lot of research on this, and I really think that, you know, people need to evaluate what's being pushed on them here in your so-called risk group.
Yeah, well, I think that's a positive thing, but...
Okay.
So what is your...
Well, what I really despise, and I have the same...
Okay, here's your single infection, 1969, blah, blah, blah, HIV, 1978.
Okay, you got me on that.
But I remember when it came to the fore, it was in the 80s.
Yeah, that's when we decided it was a good scam.
Okay.
These cocktails.
What is it?
Adam at curry.com?
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
I'll forward them to you.
I guarantee you that a lot of people agree with me.
Well, I'm sure a lot of people agree with me.
Let's face it.
This thing has been around, now that you mentioned, since the 70s.
And my own future wife.
Apparently, the well-documented cases of HIV and the human dates back to 1959, they've done nothing about it.
And my own future wife disagrees with me on this one.
Now, I don't know if she's, I don't think she's, she's witnessed AIDS a lot more than I have, but I've, you know, I have stacks of books here, and I'd be happy to put some links in the show notes if anyone wants to read it, but I really, now with this thing where here's the test, it has false positives, oh, but here's the pill, and by the way, you can just take this pill.
This is bullcrap.
No, it's bullshit.
It really is.
And it's hurting people.
It really is.
So before you run off and get your little test and then go through the whole system, and the same thing for the freaking elites who won't have a colonoscopy to check for prostate cancer because they know that the treatment's going to kill them.
Yeah, well, it's like Janet Napolitano won't walk through the naked body scanner.
Exactly.
But, you know, certainly you have until Sunday if you want to come back and revisit this and have a different opinion.
But I don't believe it was dreamed up as some virus to kill everyone in Africa.
That's the Russian theory.
The human immune deficiency virus is an actual virus.
And it attacks your immune system.
And, you know, how do you then start to die is when you're taking all this crap that's killing your insides and your immune system can't keep up with it.
Okay, this is what people want.
They want this sort of thing in the second half of the show.
They've been complaining bitterly.
You got it.
I'm not crazy.
That's what they wanted, and you got it, ladies and gentlemen.
Live with it.
I'll give you crazy.
There's a new primetime reality show coming out.
Oh, God.
Very similar to Dancing with the Stars.
It is called, you're going to love this, Stars Earn Stripes, Celebrity Cast, where Star, and I'll read the blurb here, a fierce and emotionally charged new competition honoring America's armed forces.
The cast includes...
Citizen.
Citizen.
Sorry, where is it?
I'm confused now.
Where's my Hey Citizen?
Hey Citizen.
You're going to love this.
The cast includes four-time undefeated world boxing champion Laila Ali, actor Dean Cain, otherwise known as Superman, actor and former National Football League player Terry Crews, and multi-platinum recording artist, actor, producer, and television personality Nick Lacey.
I don't even know what this guy is.
But who do you think is hosting this show?
I'm going to find out.
Well, normally you'd say Ryan Seacrest.
That's what I was looking for that name.
General Wesley Clark.
All right!
Hey, citizen!
Talk about co-opting the guy.
Can you believe that?
It's unbelievable.
Listen, Wes, Wes, listen, man.
Look, we know you did that thing where you gave everyone all the countries we're going to invade.
You know, we could have killed you, but we're going to make you a deal.
You're going to shut up, and you're going to get your own reality show.
Surprised you didn't have Mike Huckleberry.
Yeah.
How awesome is that?
I can't wait.
It debuts Monday, August 13th, 8 to 10 p.m.
This is a massive, major ABC, I think it is.
Surprise, surprise.
I'm going to definitely be watching.
Yeah.
So I got a couple of other clips I want to get to.
All the news came in.
There's a really funny story that ran on one of the versions of Al Jazeera.
You know, Pakistan reopened.
Those trucks have been held up for eight months.
You know about this, right?
In Pakistan, yeah.
$100 million extra a month because we had to take a different route.
Right, and most of the trucks didn't take the different route.
They've been just sitting there for eight months.
Before you get into that, can I just talk about the apology, or is that in your bit?
It's in the bit.
Oh, okay, because I have a thing about that.
All right, go ahead.
So apparently, the Pakistanis had all these demands, and then it finally wrapped up with this, and you have to listen to this little, this is a shortened version of the report, but you'll see the humor when this wraps.
Anything from armored vehicles to common safety pins have been transported through Pakistan without any transit fee.
During negotiations, the Pakistani side wanted $5,000 for every container, but that demand was dropped in the end.
The government in Islamabad hailed the agreement to open the border crossing as a major breakthrough.
The opposition plans to hold nationwide protests.
Even though the Pakistanis would have wanted an apology from the U.S. President, it was the U.S. Secretary of State who called the Pakistani foreign ministers to say sorry.
And now it seems that was enough.
First of all, if you ever die, this guy is my new co-host.
Isn't he great?
This guy rocks.
It's very hard to talk with a little bit of listening in that voice.
So, yeah, this was...
Well, go ahead.
Give me your analysis.
So, apparently, you know, the Pakistanis was...
I don't know what happened behind the scenes.
Obviously, it's not being reported because no one tells us the reality.
But, you know, we want an apology for this.
It was the killing that the NATO choppers did on a bunch of Pakistani troops.
Yeah, it was a drone, man.
Wasn't it a drone?
No, no, it was a real...
It was a gunship.
Oh, okay.
Okay.
And so they kill a bunch of guys.
Yeah, like 24.
Oops.
And they demanded an apology from Obama.
And so finally Hillary, I don't know what she did behind the scenes, but she said she's sorry.
And that was good enough.
And then things come back.
It's just like the dumbest story ever.
Well, this is what's interesting about the story.
She didn't actually say she's sorry.
She didn't say she was sorry.
And there was a huge conversation in the State Department press briefing about it.
How it cannot...
I don't understand.
In the press briefing...
Victoria Nuland, married to one of the guys who wrote the project for a new American century, one of the guys who wrote the whole script that coincidentally came true with the World Trade Center, 9-11.
That's just a little side note.
The evidence is there.
She did not say...
I'm sorry.
And this doesn't make it onto the news.
No one makes it onto the news is Hillary Clinton says I'm sorry!
Everything all good.
Not true.
Can you tell us what led the secretary to decide to use that word, we are sorry for the losses?
Well, as Matt predicted, I'm going to say that the statement speaks for itself, and I'm not going to parse the words that were used.
There you go.
But, you know, as the statement makes clear, there were mistakes made on both sides that led to the tragic loss of life, and we are both sorry for those.
We are both sorry, though.
On the next page, the way it's printed out here, that sounds like we're sorry for what the terrorists did to us, right?
Again, without parsing the statement, I think the intent here is that we are both sorry for the losses suffered by both our countries in this fight against terrorists.
Is it fair to consider this an apology?
Again, the statement speaks for itself.
The words are all there, and I'm not going to improve on it here.
So the lesson learned is to come out front right away and apologize clearly without any sort of bogginess.
Saeed, that sounds like an editorial comment.
I think the statement speaks for itself, and as you know, we've been working on this Glock issue for some time.
Why did it take so long for this apology to come forward?
Again, there were a lot of issues that needed to be worked through.
You saw us do that at the technical level.
You've seen us do it at the political level, and that's brought us to where we are here.
The answer to the question really is, why did it take so long to come out and say sorry?
I mean, this isn't an Elton John song here.
Sorry isn't the hardest word to say.
It's pretty easy to say.
It's not a question about parsing a statement.
Why did it take so long?
Okay.
Well, as we've been clear about for quite these many weeks, there were a number of issues that needed to be worked through that allowed us to get us to where we are.
Okay.
Translation?
She did not say we're sorry.
She said we are both sorry for what the terrorists have done, which is very different from what the media is telling you.
Secondly, the fees remain in place.
We still have to pay the transit fees.
I didn't clip anything, but it's all over the press release on this.
And what this means is that the pipeline deal is finally done.
We've agreed to the pipeline, the TAPI pipeline, which will eventually go through Pakistan into India, and from India, it'll continue on to China.
So the deal is done.
That's what this is all about.
And she did not say, oh, sorry for killing your guys.
Like, oh, we're really sorry for what happened on both sides.
Total twisting of the actual facts.
By the way, when she says, I don't want to parse it, she continues to parse it.
That's what I thought was weird.
That's what's interesting.
Hey, breaking news.
Ha ha!
Cyprus, which is broke, they were looking for a bailout from the EU and the IMF. Right.
Headline news right now.
Cyprus says the Russians are offering us a better deal.
It can't get any funnier!
So, Russian pipeline, with the Israelis, up through Cyprus, into Greece, into Europe.
Another piece, another move on the chessboard, ladies and gentlemen.
So, what will the retaliation be from Turkey and the Saudis?
Something.
I think we should blow something up.
Well, something's going to happen.
You can count on it.
This is phenomenal.
I love these.
These chess pieces are great to watch.
And then I think somehow related to this is this Arafat story.
Oh, the poisoning?
The polonium story?
Yeah.
Here, play this clip from Van Cat.
Now you've confused me.
It says, Arafat, still dead.
I was looking for Van Cat.
Moving on now to other world news.
Yasser Arafat may have been poisoned.
Traces of polonium were found on the toothbrush and clothes of the late Palestinian president, according to a Swiss institute.
His widow, Suha Arafat, has called for his body to be exhumed for further tests.
Now, Arafat died at a hospital in Paris six years ago after a sudden illness which baffled doctors.
Many Palestinians have long suspected he was murdered.
Oh, I know.
The old toothbrush thing, I know what happened.
He didn't tip the hotel maid.
They don't have access to polonium of all things.
So how does this tie in?
How do you feel that ties in?
I wonder myself, this whole story is weird.
For one thing, it's showing up right now.
It's an obvious spy story because polonium is one of those things that some, you know, the Bulgarians would use or something.
I think there's a connection between what's going on and this thing coming to the fore.
Hmm.
I think that the tracks have been covered up by now to such an extreme that no one's going to figure it out.
But I think there's something important.
Hmm.
Hmm.
Yeah, I don't know.
This guy was as corrupt as it gets.
I mean, the story definitely came out of left field.
I hadn't quite parsed how it was going to work yet, so I really don't know.
I really don't know.
Hmm.
Well, we'll look into it.
I'm also, one of the things I'm listening to, besides these, you know, I'm listening to VanCat and all these different foreign news things, so I'm getting weird stories that you just don't hear.
But the Korean news I'm starting to listen to, which is really off the wall, because their context is generally wrong.
So when they do analysis of something, like they try to explain something, they usually, the explanation is, you know, like, well, play this one Korean news clip.
Over 350 Russian musicians have donated songs to the so-called White Album, declaring their support for the opposition against Russian President Vladimir Putin.
The title White Album comes from the color used by opposition supporters during street protests over the past six months.
Musicians from all genre have submitted their songs.
Wait a minute.
It completely overlooks the white album real genesis, right?
The Beatles.
Yeah, isn't...
Well, I'm just Googling this.
Tell me that the white album isn't coming to iTunes or something like that.
Well, Korean news is not that connected to our public relations machines.
When you watch it enough, you go, these people are just completely...
I mean, they're isolated.
Yeah, okay.
Yeah.
Anyway, the one, I don't think that album, or the real Beatles' white album might be.
I think it's already on.
I thought it could be a PR story, but no, it isn't.
I don't think so.
And then there's another news story which I didn't know about.
Did you know about the Airbus story, right?
That they're saying it was pilot error?
No, no, no.
I'm talking about what they're up to.
Play this.
Oh, yeah.
No, I do.
They're coming in.
Yeah, they're coming over.
The giant European planemaker Airbus has announced it's setting up its first factory in the United States, home of its greatest rival, Boeing.
Work on the half a billion euro plant in Alabama is scheduled to start next year with the production lines rolling by 2015.
And while other companies, even in America, in aerospace business, are laying off, we hide 4,000 people last year and we'll do the same again this year.
We go where the talent is.
The goal is to produce up to 50 A320s a year in the United States, the heart of the world's biggest market for that kind of medium-range aircraft.
Now, well, this is an obvious quid pro quo.
This makes so much sense.
So we have the report today.
This was nothing wrong with the aircraft.
This is the Air France flight that crashed near Brazil.
Nothing wrong with the aircraft.
This was pilot error.
And so here's how it works.
Listen, dudes, listen.
I'll tell you what.
If you tell everyone that our plane doesn't suck ass, we'll build a factory in Alabama.
Well, what's interesting to me about the story is the fact that the U.S. government...
In essence, has screwed over Boeing.
Well, yeah.
Because Boeing wanted to build some of its jet manufacturing plants in the South, and the Department of Labor told them they would be in violation of some labor laws because they have a unionized system up in Seattle.
And then Boeing had nothing but a struggle.
And meanwhile, Airbus waltzes into Alabama and drops in a plant?
I think there's something screwy going on.
Well, there's always so much money involved in this.
In aviation.
They must make drones.
Let's see.
They make drones.
They probably do.
Why not?
Let's see.
Do they make drones?
Let me see.
Most of the drone companies seem to be independent little companies owned by these big guys, and it's hard to figure out who was really making the drones.
Let me see if there's anything.
They must be making a drone.
I don't see anything offhand.
Something to look into.
But I'm...
As an airman, I reject the human element.
First of all, it just makes no sense.
It's like, well, the pitot tubes weren't working and therefore they made all the wrong decisions.
It's like...
The number one thing you...
Well, not number one.
One of the things you learn, even on a Cessna, is you have your pitot tube heating, which in the smaller aircraft you turn on manually so as not to burn out the elements by having them on all the time.
But the minute you go through clouds, you turn on your pitot tube.
So if you're flying at altitude and they were at altitude...
Typically, if the pitot tube freezes over, there's no air pressure coming into the tube, and you will get a, you know, it'll basically, the airspeed indicator will tell you you're flying very, very slowly.
And if that is, you know, the case, you know, all the things that happened, that they say happened on board of this unfortunate flight, make no sense.
You know, that he was pulling the nose up.
I mean, the whole thing is, I've got to talk to some air guys about it, but It sounds like a huge cover-up.
It really doesn't sound right at all.
Well, Airbus is notorious for this.
If you remember the old Paris Air Show where the one plane flew into the trees because it wouldn't take off.
And they blamed the pilot who said he was doing everything right.
But the computer decided that because they were doing demonstrations and the computer was confused and drove the plane into the woods and the guy lost his job.
Yeah, these are fly-by-wires, so you don't have a direct hydraulic connection to the control surfaces, and the computer is interpreting the joystick, and it all runs on Windows NT, by the way.
No joke.
It runs on Windows NT, John.
With the Airbus?
Yeah.
I'm not buying this.
Okay.
You've got to give me some documentation.
Of course, I don't know anything about aviation, so don't buy it.
But that doesn't mean you know about the software that runs the Airbus just because you can fly a plane.
Oh, yeah.
That doesn't make sense.
I do no research.
I want to hear this at the Windows NT. I mean, I know a couple of Navy ships tried using Windows NT to operate, and they gave up on it.
Okay, let's see.
What OS does...
Airbus, run on.
Airbus 380 runs Windows.
It says it right there.
First hit.
That doesn't mean it's not running Windows as the entertainment software.
I'm telling you, it runs Windows NT. I'm telling you.
This is why Windows NT had the POSIX system put in, because they couldn't get any government or aviation contracts without it being a POSIX kernel.
This is a long history of stuff.
I'll get you some documentation.
I needed documentation.
Hey, meanwhile, we had a big scare, man.
All the newspapers in the UK were saying, hey, it looks like Al-Qaeda is going to take down an airplane over the Olympics.
I'm sure you heard about this.
That's why they got the missile system up.
And CNN, man, I love it.
They're like, bring you the headline and then bring it right back down to debunking it.
It was a beautiful piece.
From my starting point, Al-Qaeda operatives may be plotting to take down a U.S. plane in the days leading up to the Summer Olympic Games in London.
This is according to the Times of London.
Al-Qaeda's Yemen-based terror cell is believed to be behind the planning of this attack.
CNN's intelligence correspondent...
Suzanne Kelly is, of course, on the security watch.
She joins me live from Washington.
Suzanne, what are your sources telling you about this?
Brooke, I'm really glad we're talking about this because there was a lot of hype and a lot of concern about this when these British papers came out with this reporting over the weekend.
And, you know, CNN has gone back and done the due diligence and spoke with both officials in the U.K. and the U.S. who are all saying there is absolutely no specific credible threat to About bringing down a U.S.-bound airliner any time around the Olympics.
Now, that being said...
Like, ixnay, ixnay on the Al-Qaeda-a-owning day of Et-J, okay?
There's no et-thray.
Keep in mind that the president did meet with his national security team last week, and they did talk about efforts to prepare for keeping the 4th of July festivities secure, of course, working with their British counterparts on the Olympics, but again, no specific threat.
So it sounds like there may be a little bit more hype here than it felt.
One thing to tell you, though, is the Department of Homeland Security has come out and said that their security posture, and I'm quoting from them here, includes a number of measures both seen and unseen.
Ah, unseen.
Secret measures.
These are the best kind.
The ones that you don't.
Unseen.
Unseen.
And we will continue to respond appropriately to protect the American people.
And what they're really asking is for people to be vigilant and pay attention.
The Director General of MI... Pay attention.
Five, however, just recently came out and publicly said Al-Qaeda does remain a very serious threat.
They're still plotting.
They're still trying to find ways to attack.
But again, according to U.S. government officials and officials in the U.K., there's no specific threat tied to the Olympics right now.
You better just stay away from all the events.
Stay away from all the events.
So she talked about MI5. So MI5, MI6 is kind of the UK, Get My Nation East equivalent of FBI, CIA. So we have a new boss at the BBC, a new director general.
One of these intelligence agencies, I bet.
Yeah, this is George Entwistle.
And he has an interesting record.
In 2001, he took over as editor of BBC Newsnight less than 24 hours before the 9-11 attack.
Interesting.
Was that the same BBC that said WTC7 had collapsed 20 minutes before it did?
You don't think that that's just a coincidence, probably?
In 1993, he joined On The Record as a producer where he won the nickname General Sir George Entwistle because of a track record of accurate items that he could bring about the military's history and he had an obsession with tanks and guns and stuff.
I like the stuffed stuff.
This is how it works.
You get the new boss, and he is a shill for the intelligence services, and just like our Syrian friend who defected, we're obviously headed towards a huge amount of propaganda in Gitmo Nation East.
This guy, he's a player.
He's a real player.
He's a goofy looking guy.
He wears the jumpers.
He wears like little sweaters that you wear over your shirt.
Twitter came out with their transparency report.
And what that means is they have compiled a list of government requests received for user information, government requests received to withhold content, and DMCA takedown notices received from copyright holders.
And I'm looking at this list, and I can't believe that there's not a single Arab Spring country on the list.
Yeah.
It's amazing.
Seriously, not a single one is on the list.
So these countries, I get no one asked for anything, no one's doing anything.
I mean, you think at least that...
Randy Corbin.
What's his name?
Carvin.
Andy Carvin.
Your buddy.
Yeah.
I guess his word is good enough, right?
We don't need to check and see if anyone's for real on that thing.
Just phenomenally awesome.
Really good.
Of course, no one's looking at that story.
Of course not.
And then I have the final...
I think we can actually play the jingle for this.
To the gate, to the gate, to the climate gate.
Ah, yes.
I was watching PBS as a part of my healthy news diet.
Because, you know, that's public television, John.
That is supposed to be fair, balanced, unbiased, all of this stuff, right?
Would you agree?
Oh, they're absolutely.
So, Kevin Trenberth was on the show, and he is a climate scientist at the U.S. National Center for Atmospheric Research, and he was discussing the correlation between extreme weather and man-made global warming.
Now, we know from all the reports when it got really cold and it was snowing, we were told that weather is not climate, right?
Right.
That's what they went on and on about.
Weather is not climate.
Climate is something different.
Right.
Okay.
So I was more than prepared to hear that again on the PBS, the extremely accurate, publicly funded...
I mean, they've got commercials, but that's just...
I don't pay no attention to that.
And I was surprised to hear the following.
And so these areas where the really hot and dry conditions leading to wildfires is moving around, we certainly don't expect them to occur every year, but we do expect more of them.
The odds are changing for these to occur with climate change, with the global warming from the human influences on climate.
That's what I wanted to ask you about.
To a scientist, what does this say is going on?
Right off the script, by the way.
Where's the scientists?
What is going on?
Well, I think it's, you know, you look out the window and you see climate change in action.
Oh!
Yeah, I saw climate change in action last night.
For the 40th year in a row, I go out to watch the fireworks in San Francisco, but a big layer of fog rolls in and blocks all the fireworks.
And I'm waiting for that to change because of global warming, but no.
I think I saw climate change drive by on a 10-speed bike.
I saw it in action.
I looked out the window like, what's that, honey?
Oh, don't worry.
That's just climate change.
This is the way it gets manifested.
There's normal weather events, there's the normal seasons.
If we have June temperatures in March, well, you know, we've experienced them before because we get them in June.
If we have a very mild winter, actually people like that because the winter isn't as cold.
But we were breaking records then.
Now we're breaking records, but we're in the peak of the heat season, and now we're going outside of the realm of conditions previously experienced.
And so that's when the damage really becomes extreme, and we get all of these wildfires, houses have been burned, tremendous damage to the environment.
And we've never had a wildfire before.
No, no, no.
Never happens.
No, only with man-made global warming does this happen.
Because you can look out the window and you can see climate change right out there.
Consequences to come with regard to things like bugs that have survived the relatively warm winter.
Ah, the bugs, John.
Stay tuned for the swarm of bugs which will be blamed on man-made global warming.
The locusts are coming.
So these are all manifestations of climate change that we expect to see more of.
Ah!
I'm sorry.
Am I misunderstanding what he's saying?
He's saying weather is man-made.
I don't know what he's saying.
The guy's an idiot.
And I just was hearing a few minutes ago that the weather service reporting more than 2,000 record temperatures matched or broken just in the last week.
Yes, well, of course, it's easy to break an individual record because a weather system just happens at that particular location.
With an unchanging climate, you expect that the number of highs and the number of low temperature records are about the same.
And that was the case in the 1950s, 60s, and 70s.
And then by the 2000s, we were breaking high temperature records at a ratio of about 2 to 1 over cold temperature records.
But this year, we've been breaking high temperature records at a rate of about Hey, hey, hey!
The science is in!
Science!
Science!
Hey, I want to remind people to send us a note or a letter or a question for the show that we're working on, which is show 200.6.
We're going to do questions and answers for, you know, if you have some question about the show or how it got started or anything like that.
We only got five questions.
Oh, no, I got a lot.
I got a lot of questions.
What do you got a question for?
You can't ask ourselves a question.
What's my favorite black color?
No.
No, no, no.
They're asking good questions.
I got some really nice questions.
Oh, you got some?
Okay.
Yeah, I got great questions.
I got questions like, who is this clippity-clop you keep speaking of?
Yeah, some newbies, I guess, don't get some of the stuff I'm referring to.
Well, that's why we're going to do this show.
That's it.
And on Sunday, by the way, I want to mention there's a long Reverend Manning clip that I had.
It was 20 minutes and I have to cut it down to like six or seven minutes where he goes on a crazy rant.
But he starts off really sedate and then he gets wild at the end.
And it's actually going to be quite funny to listen to.
I do have a teaser.
You can see where it's headed from my little intro here.
What am I playing?
God, you're terrible today.
Yeah, I suck.
You're always nailing these.
Yeah, well, I suck.
This is a Reverend Manning intro.
Oh.
You mean this clip?
I want everybody to try to understand.
I'm not a right-winger.
I'm not a left-winger.
I'm not a liberal.
I'm not a conservative.
I'm not a Democrat.
I'm not a Republican.
I'm a Christian.
I'm not even black, actually.
And I have a role to play in Christianity as a preacher, as a pastor.
Of which I have been doing for 30 years and will continue to do.
My parish, if you will, is located in the community known as Harlem, but I preach to the world God's unadulterated word.
Now, I do not see the world politically, and so therefore please understand that.
I only see things spiritually.
At present, the reason why so much of my time and energy has been spent dealing with Obama is because Obama is the son of Satan.
If he was just another politician, then I would probably be very casual at the most about him as I was with George Bush or with Bill Clinton.
But when a preacher looks up and he sees that Satan has sent one of his sons, then I spend every weekend moment of my day talking about the fact that Satan's son is here.
Yeah, and my age theory is nuts.
Hold on a second.
There's no real conflict.
Shut up, slave.
I got to start watching him again.
I'm behind on my Reverend Manning stuff.
This is the latest thing he did, so it'll catch us up.
Well, there's a lot of people who have this theory.
Son of Satan.
Son of Satan, yeah.
There's a lot of people who have this.
They had the same thing with Bush.
I think you'll find it highly educational or entertaining.
It'll be for Sunday's show.
Alright, so we would really like you to consider us in your media diet, which should be a healthy one.
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We're doing all kinds of work, as you can tell.
I think we've done more.
Look, news happens, right?
News is everywhere.
It used to be that at least people would report some of the news, and then you'd get crappy analysis.
So we started off this program by bringing you some different, and I think better analysis, but now we actually have to go and find out the news, because the news is not even being reported.
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Right?
You nailed it.
Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha.
Alright.
People are already sending me stuff I'm quite familiar with, but I'm forwarding it on to you, John.
You definitely want to take a look at the documentary, House of Numbers.
I forwarded the email to you, so you can take a look.
And I'm happy to send you some Amazon books.
Now the Dvorak household is on Kindle, unreliably informed.
Oh yeah.
Alright, thanks everybody in the chat room.
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Oh!
Yes, I should point that out.
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