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	On the grounds that they actually made contact with the remains of an ancient shipwreck while on the lunar surface.
	Adam Curry, John C. Devorak.
	It's Sunday, July 1st, 2012.
	Time for your Gitmo Nation Media Assassination Episode 422.
	This is No Agenda.
	Still tracking the Stargates here at Camp MoFo in the capital of the Drone Star State.
	Austin Tejas in the morning, everybody.
	I'm Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley, where we're sending a happy 145th birthday out to Canada.
	I'm John C. Dvorak.
	It's Craig Vaughn and Buzzkill.
	In the morning.
	I mean, that could have gone in the birthday segment.
	We didn't have to do it at the top of the show.
	I mean, that's a little over the top.
	Hey, Canada's our second biggest contributor to this show.
	Really?
	I thought it was Australia.
	Oh, you're right.
	Canada's way down there.
	Exactly.
	If those Canadians will rack it up a little bit, then I'm okay with this.
	But this is like a...
	I can't take you back.
	You want to start the show over?
	No.
	Cut them out.
	They're on the cutting room floor, I tell you.
	Damn Canadians.
	So I was at the Mevio offices about a week ago, and I was talking about they're shooting this Bravo show, and I said, well, you know what, the way you guys are going, you're going to end up on the cutting room floor.
	Yeah.
	And nobody knew what that meant.
	You're kidding me.
	No, this is one of those many little phrases that the millennials don't know.
	Right, because it doesn't exist anymore.
	Yes, you sound like a broken record.
	What?
	You mean like my DMV records?
	You can't break them.
	Well, if you can really get into stuff like that, I mean, look at iconography.
	I mean, does anyone still really understand the association between pasting and a clipboard, a little picture of a clipboard?
	Probably not.
	No.
	Exactly.
	So I had to explain what the cutting room floor was.
	And these were all the editors I was talking to.
	The ones that were editing videos.
	Oh, really?
	That's hilarious.
	And they have no idea what a cutting room floor is because they're non-linear editors.
	I just found it fascinating.
	I find it really interesting.
	All these old phrases are dying out if we don't keep using them.
	Well, there is a thing called...
	What is it?
	Oh, yeah.
	Progress, John?
	Ever hear of it?
	No.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	Hey, let's just kick it off because we got a new jingle.
	So we like kicking off the show with our favorite segment here.
	Let me just hit it.
	We suck, wah, wah, wah.
	Is that booing at the end?
	I think so.
	That's Sir Jeff Smith.
	He's come back into our lives.
	It's about time.
	And even though we don't really suck, I have to say, I felt like we sucked.
	How long have we been doing this show?
	Five years plus, right?
	I don't know.
	No, we're coming up on our 5th anniversary in October.
	Oh, that'll be our 5th.
	That'll be our 6th.
	Okay.
	So we're coming up on the 5th anniversary.
	Which is a big one.
	We gotta start rounding up some...
	Yeah, $5 donations.
	Yeah.
	I was very disappointed in the amount of tweets, emails, posting to the No Agenda News Network.
	I know exactly where you're going.
	Yeah, you go ahead and say it.
	33.
	Ugh.
	The Tom Cruise thing.
	I mean, yeah, 33 is a very important number.
	But did you have to spam me with that?
	You got spammed.
	I got spammed.
	And that's a big deal.
	It's like, oh, it's a big discovery.
	First of all, Katie Holmes is divorcing him, so he didn't pick the 33 out of the blue.
	Now, somebody did send me something this morning showing that 33 is a reference to some deep, you know, one of those crazy Scientology documents that's been uncovered by Anonymous.
	People have to understand there's a difference between random number theory, which is things that will happen again and again and again, and any sort of meaningful numerological situation or something like this 33 thing.
	I keep sending notes back.
	Tell me what this is.
	Yeah.
	You know, if you're so convinced.
	I mean, 33 is a code that we believe is a code being used in political and military-industrial complex circles.
	But this is not code.
	This is just, you know...
	Tom Cruise is gay.
	That's the code.
	That's your code right there.
	Yeah, really.
	Come on.
	And so what?
	So what?
	It's real news.
	Give me a break.
	Yeah.
	I'm a fan of Tom Cruise.
	I like his stuff.
	I've always liked Tom Cruise as an actor.
	Yeah.
	I don't know.
	I think as a person, he's kind of a weirdo, but as an actor, he jumps up and down on couches.
	He's really intense.
	I don't think you'd like to go and have a drink with him.
	That's just because you've never been in love.
	That's the only reason why you don't do that.
	Yeah.
	Would you like to go have a drink with this guy?
	Yes.
	Of course I would.
	Yeah.
	Only because you think you can do a deal.
	Well, duh.
	Hey, Tom, I got a script.
	I'm talking about just a buddy having a drink.
	I think it would be fun to have a drink with.
	I think it would be a little weird, you know, because I think he has a height complex.
	That might be a problem.
	I think he does have a problem with that, seriously.
	Like a real problem.
	Yeah, he's only 5'2".
	Yeah.
	Yeah, that would be a problem.
	Although we don't know for sure because they don't put these things in the Wikipedia.
	Yeah, they don't put that in the Wikipedia.
	I know, bastards.
	Bastards.
	In the morning to you, John C. Dvorak.
	In the morning to you, Adam Curry.
	In the morning to all ships at sea.
	Boots on the ground, subs in the water, and feet washing ashore on the west coast.
	And in the morning, to all of our human resources in our chat room, noagendastream.com, noagendachat.net.
	It's always fun when they're 30 seconds behind.
	They're still telling me I should slip Tom Cruise a roofie when I go drinking with him.
	Okay.
	Good to see everybody all charged up and ready to go exactly the way your government loves you.
	We have a lot of things to discuss today.
	I've been doing my government legislation analysis for you.
	There is good stuff, and maybe we should just start it off and say that we've done it yet again.
	I think, was it four or five weeks ago?
	We started off our conversation, and this is always...
	It harkens back to our conviction that all professional sports are rigged.
	Now, we may have picked two sides of the same coin.
	John was convinced that Spain would be winning the Euro 2012 foosball competition.
	And I said, Italy.
	Well, the show wins regardless, John.
	Today, the big final, Spain versus Italy.
	Yeah.
	I think we're brilliant.
	I'm highly amused by that.
	The final decision may not have even been made yet.
	No, no.
	They don't start the game until...
	No, I'm saying right now they could be discussing...
	Exactly.
	Exactly.
	Because there's so much...
	I mean, we had this happen over the past few days where all of a sudden everyone's going crazy.
	It seems like we have a deal and this is fantastic.
	The euro is...
	We're saved and markets are skyrocketing.
	Euro is up based upon...
	Two pages of bull crap, as far as I can tell.
	I have a clip.
	Sure.
	Which is the one...
	I don't have my clip list in front of me.
	Let me get it.
	I can probably guess what it is.
	Missiles in London?
	No, WTF banks in the Eurozone scam.
	Yeah, okay, here's the clip.
	Now, this is a...
	I'm telling you, I have listened to...
	This is...
	I forgot.
	This may either be from Euronews or Russia Today.
	I'm not sure where this one came from.
	But...
	I listen to this and then listen to, and I've got the clip of at least a piece of, what's his name, haiku talking.
	I don't know what they're talking about.
	I do, actually.
	Well, play the clip and let me get confused and then you straighten me out.
	More flexible approach to tackling its crippling debt crisis.
	The bloc's future permanent bailout fund, the ESM, for instance, will be able to inject aid directly into banks from next year without increasing a country's budget deficit.
	Last night we agreed that under certain circumstances and under certain conditions, the ESM could recapitalize banks directly.
	The biggest and most important condition is setting up a single supervisory mechanism for banks.
	And the Eurozone leaders have asked the Council to work in a very speedy way so that we can have results by the end of the year.
	It is a major breakthrough, I said it, this night.
	It is a first step also to break the vicious circle between banks and sovereigns.
	Leaders also agree to bend the rules to bring down borrowing costs for troubled member states.
	The deal's widely seen as a victory for embattled Italy and Spain over Germany's Angela Merkel.
	All right, so I basically had a similar clip, except I just had the 37 seconds of Haiku Herman talking there.
	So let me explain to you why the markets went crazy, because I... I've been so...
	And by the way, this is a once again proof that we never talk about anything but U.S. news, okay?
	I just want to say to everyone on the LinkedIn group, blow me.
	We do all kinds of stuff.
	Crazy.
	I think most of the stuff, like my clips today...
	I don't think there's one U.S. news item in there.
	I got 14 clips.
	Oh, no, I got one.
	One lone clip about foie gras in California.
	Okay, so here is what's going on and why the markets went crazy about this.
	And then I'll tell you what the Germans think, because that's kind of funny, looking at all the German newspapers this morning.
	So this is a two-page document, the Euro Area Summit Statement.
	And what everyone is talking about is that the EFSF, which will be replaced by the ESM, which has not been ratified, and we know that Finland is saying, yeah, right, show me some collateral, that this fund, which is basically taxpayer money from every single slave in the United States of Europe, We'll go directly into the banks.
	I mean, this is a genius move.
	Like, here's a commercial bank.
	They suck.
	Give me your money, slaves, and I'll give it to them.
	Okay.
	So the banks, of course, love that.
	But most importantly, this is the clause.
	And I'm telling you, it's two pages, four points.
	We urge the rapid conclusion of the Memorandum of Understanding attached to the financial support to Spain for recapitalizing of its banking sector.
	We reaffirm that the financial assistance will be provided by the EFSF until the ESM becomes available.
	And here it comes.
	That it will be transferred to the ESM without gaining seniority status.
	This was the big deal.
	Because the EFSF... It has bondholders, and they were afraid they were going to be subordinated.
	This is the word you've got to look for.
	So they thought that their bonds were going to be subordinated to the ESM, which means shut up slaves who bought the bonds on that bailout.
	This one gets paid back first.
	So it's not subordinated, and that's why the whole bond market is like, yeah, we're not getting screwed.
	Only the slaves get screwed.
	So...
	When the slave money goes into the banks, you're still below the bondholders.
	That's what this is about.
	Does that make sense to you?
	Yeah, and that would boost things too because, as you say, this is tax money that's just taken from the slaves of the Eurozone or I guess the European Union.
	And since they've stolen money, it doesn't ever have to get paid back.
	And that's why, I guess, what Haiku Herro or these guys were talking about.
	Exactly.
	It wasn't, so Spain would get money into their banks without going further into debt.
	So they didn't owe anything.
	So this is basically free money.
	Free money.
	It's such a giant tax.
	But here's all the papers, front page of Die Welt in Germany.
	I'm translating it.
	It's not hard to understand.
	Europe is coming for our money!
	The Germans are furious about this because they know now.
	And immediately, Greece is saying, hey, can we have some of that free money?
	So the new government is applying.
	It says, hey, we should have this for Greece as well.
	And Cyprus, who, by the way, congratulations, Cyprus, the next broke continent.
	It's not important when it comes to population, but of course Cyprus is in the catbird seat of the Leviathan oil fields.
	They take over the presidency of the EU as of today for the next six months, so that's going to be interesting.
	They'll be pushing stuff for their own agenda.
	But it seems like I think we've bought at least, well...
	Seven, eight days until the next bullcrap crisis?
	This is kind of a theme when I do the show with Horowitz, is that these guys, this whole, I would say, organized crime syndicate called the EU... It just manages to just put off paying, catching up to what they really owe.
	I mean, now they're just gouging their own people, and I guess Germany is going to get gouged the worst.
	Yeah, but the German people are P.O.ed.
	Yeah, but they're the only ones who know what's going on, it seems.
	So the only...
	Here's the real...
	It's like three...
	Well, four ways this can go.
	But really, I think the only solution to all of this, John, and you're much more versed in this because, you know, you do a podcast about it.
	It makes you an expert.
	That's how you do it.
	That's how you become an expert.
	You do a podcast.
	You do a podcast.
	They have to devalue the euro.
	They've got to bring it down to parity one-to-one with the dollar.
	That's the only way.
	You get a little bit of inflation.
	It's cheaper to pay back all these loans.
	Don't you think that's the only solution?
	Well, I think it is definitely a solution.
	I think going EU bankrupt country by country, one after another, like Domino's, I think is another solution, but they're not going to do that.
	There's too much pride involved.
	But it's like, I mean, we're starting to see some of our people thinking in those terms.
	Stockton, for example, just...
	Yeah, just went...
	Now, Chapter 9 is different from...
	I didn't look it up, but Stockton, California, which is...
	That's a big city, right?
	That's substantial.
	It's over a million.
	I think it's bigger than that.
	Well, let's consult the book of knowledge.
	Consult the book of knowledge!
	So I type in the words into Google.
	Stockton, California population.
	And I hit the button.
	Oh, it's only got 291,000.
	No!
	Yeah.
	Oh yeah, 291.
	San Joaquin Valley, fourth largest city in the Central Valley.
	Who gives a crap then?
	Yeah, it's small.
	Yeah.
	Well, anyway, so they're bankrupt.
	What is the difference between...
	I know Chapter 11 means you can come out...
	Chapter 9, Bankruptcy.
	Why don't you know these things?
	I used to know this, by the way.
	I used to know 7, 9, and 11.
	7 is like kaput.
	11 is you get a chance to come back.
	9 is somewhere in the middle, I guess, then?
	I think 9 is you get to...
	You get to reorg and you don't have to pay back all the money or something like that.
	All I know is this stems, it must be something like that, because this stems from the creditors apparently playing hardball.
	Well, sure.
	And Stockton's saying...
	Well, you can't afford this.
	We're going to go broke.
	We're going to have to declare bankruptcy.
	So, no, you better pay this much or else.
	It's okay.
	Screw you.
	And they filed bankruptcy and screwed all the creditors.
	Right.
	Which, by the way, is a shot across the bow for all the cities.
	Yeah, all of California.
	There's all these banks that think that they're going to pull this crap and gouge the cities under these circumstances when they're sitting pretty with all this free money they got from the Fed.
	That's not going to cut it.
	And this may be...
	If one more...
	City does this, pulls this, everyone's going to be panicked, and it's going to be, no, no, no, no, no, we'll stretch out the payments, no problem.
	By the way, I just got a link from one of our Spanish producers.
	Let me just take a look here.
	This is a Spain...
	Okay, here it is.
	You're doing that.
	Chapter 7 is liquidation.
	That means you're done.
	Chapter 9 is reorganization for municipalities specifically.
	It's only available to municipalities.
	11, 12, and 13 are reorgs.
	Okay.
	All right.
	This is...
	Where is this?
	Wow.
	This is Spain.
	Nice shot.
	This is on the highway.
	The cops are shooting...
	There's cars burning.
	What?
	Yeah.
	This is coming through now?
	Yeah.
	This is from, yeah.
	Oh, they're trying to make sure the decision goes their way for the soccer game.
	They clearly need to win Euro 2012.
	It's only got 908.
	Oh, this is cool.
	The guy's got like a homemade bazooka with like rocket.
	What is he shooting?
	He's shooting like...
	This is crazy.
	What are you watching?
	I'm watching a YouTube video of Spanish citizens with like PVC tube shooting firecrackers, homemade jack stuff.
	It's like a revolution.
	Here, listen to this.
	Here's one of his firecrackers.
	Here it goes.
	He's got a tube.
	He's shooting firecrackers from a shoulder-mounted tube.
	I think they're going to win.
	I think that this is clear.
	This is very clear.
	Italy doesn't know it yet.
	Italy hasn't gotten that far down yet.
	Maybe I'll have to switch my vote here and go for...
	It doesn't matter.
	We win no matter what.
	We were right.
	We do this every time there's a big international event like this.
	We always call it.
	We've not missed.
	I don't think so.
	Well, this time, we were evaluating all the way along, but pretty much, I think I said Italy from the get-go, and you said Spain from the get-go.
	That was it, right?
	Yeah.
	No, you mentioned Greece.
	Oh, I did have Greece in there as a possibility, but Spain was actually my number one pick.
	Yeah.
	You talked me out of Greece, and you had a good rationale for it.
	Beyond repair.
	In the semifinals, I had picked Germany over Italy, but earlier in the show, and this was the last show, I had said that I agreed with you about Merkel not wanting to go to...
	Yeah, right, right.
	That's right.
	She couldn't go to the Ukraine.
	So I was remiss when I called the German.
	I should have...
	Yeah, no, you were right.
	You said, oh, no, they can't win now because Merkel can't go to the finals because it's in the wrong spot.
	No, you're right.
	You're right.
	You're right.
	And so I'm in on both these calls.
	Hey, look, we're not betting on it, okay?
	We're not on ESPN. But I think we're better than ESPN, that's for sure.
	The No Agenda Show.
	Better than ESPN. Something like that.
	Or sports.
	Yeah.
	But corrupt sports.
	Every time I run into somebody and they say, oh yeah, you're following the European soccer tournament.
	I said, ah, soccer's rigged.
	They always give me a funny look.
	So we had the washing...
	Right after the Thursday show, the washing machine repair guys had showed up.
	And I had to...
	We always had a little chat after the show.
	And I said, I gotta go because the guys are coming.
	And we hung up and the guys came.
	And it was one black guy and one...
	I think he was...
	He might have been Mexican.
	I don't know.
	He could have been Italian for all I know, but I had the game on, and he's like looking at it.
	I'm like, hey, hey, go do your work.
	He says, who is winning?
	I said, Italy.
	He said, oh, yeah.
	I said, and they're going to win the whole thing because, you know, they need it the most because they're in the most, you know, they got the economic problems.
	And he was like, yeah, absolutely.
	This guy was right on board with me.
	Wow.
	Wow.
	A real fan.
	Yeah, exactly.
	And it was 2-0 before they left.
	Crazy.
	Absolutely crazy.
	In the morning to all of our East Coast, particularly all of our human resources there in Virginia, who listen to the program religiously and are always sending us cool information about their jobs.
	We have a number of producers without power since Friday.
	Which is disturbing since they also have pretty warm out there right now.
	What happened?
	Yeah.
	Are you being facetious with me?
	No, I don't know.
	Well, there's like two million people without power since Friday.
	From what?
	From the storms.
	Oh, the storms.
	Yeah, the storms.
	I knew that.
	And yeah, I think Instagram and all...
	For some reason, the storms are so...
	You know, we're out here in California where it's just the same weather we've always had.
	And it's like fogging up just in time for the July 4th holiday.
	So you can't see the fireworks.
	Classic.
	Yeah, classic.
	It's like...
	For some reason, we have paid very little attention to the miserable storms they've had back there.
	Well, I don't see how you can miss it.
	I mean, well, of course, luckily we watch different programming, but this is all that CNN is doing.
	And they keep running...
	I don't even...
	I rarely check in with CNN anymore.
	Well, I have to, especially since the Supreme Court decision...
	CNN is just fascinating to me.
	Yeah, it is.
	First of all, no one watches.
	You know that the people that are watching are only elites who think it's still important because they get lots of airtime.
	They keep hiring really high-end personnel.
	Yeah, no, they got the chops.
	They just don't seem to have the wherewithal.
	I think it has to do something with just the attitude of the editors.
	The editors there are just not that good, apparently.
	Or they're knee-jerk liberals.
	I don't know what the problem is.
	Well, no, I think that they're completely compromised.
	And the more I think about it, the more I look at the Supreme Court ruling, and, of course, I looked at the document.
	It's like 190 pages, and I went through it all.
	And I really don't understand how any news organization could get this wrong.
	Because it's so incredibly clear.
	It's like one sentence explains exactly the decision that was made.
	And I believe this to be not only one of the most genius political moves ever, I think CNN was probably complicit in the deal, and maybe this cock-up they made wasn't all that accidental.
	I have a clip of them fouling up, interspersed with Fox fouling up, which is an interesting irony.
	And Ben, is it worth listening to?
	I mean, it's a couple days too old, but if you listen to it, you'll hear Megan Kelly.
	Megan Kelly.
	Yeah, the pretty blonde, who obviously got the right word, and she's panicked trying to get it turned around, including telling him to fix the lower third, and she's clearly annoyed at Fox's screw-up, but you can kind of hear this.
	The individual mandate has been ruled unconstitutional.
	Justices have just gutted, well, the centerpiece provision of the Obama health care law.
	Yeah, if in fact that's the final word on the individual mandate, it could be a little bit more complicated.
	We're getting conflicting information.
	We're getting conflicting information.
	As I say, there's some confusion out there, conflicting reports coming in from inside the Supreme Court.
	So let's hold off on drawing any final conclusions.
	We're still trying to figure this out.
	Be cautious with us.
	We're trying to do the best we can right now as we sort through it.
	And we need to update our lower third, which may not be correct right now.
	As we're reading through this again...
	So really the post-mortem on this, on this whole thing is, your news is not news!
	It's terrible.
	Your news are jabronis who don't know what they're doing.
	These people are just boneheads.
	You know, which is interesting because it contrasts nicely with this bullcrap new Aaron Sorkin show.
	Yeah, of course, Newsroom.
	Of course I've seen Newsroom.
	Yeah, Newsroom.
	Which is...
	Actually, Newsroom is interesting because I heard of Rush Limbaugh deconstruction, and he's actually pretty good at spotting some of these things that are kind of sneaky, especially with guys like Sorkin, who are knee-jerk liberals.
	He says that the idea behind this show is to rewrite history.
	Oh, I totally agree, particularly when it comes to, what was the storyline they had?
	It was about the Gulf of...
	The BP disaster.
	Yeah, the oil rig.
	We had more information than the news networks had.
	They were horrible.
	And you're right.
	Rewriting history, how it really came down.
	Oh, the whole thing.
	I totally agree with that.
	Yeah, they're trying to make themselves look good in hindsight.
	And this is supposed to be CNN. But, you know, it's like...
	Okay, I found it a very tedious show that I will not watch.
	Oh, no, I will watch it because there's no other, because, you know, I'm waiting for Smash to come back on.
	This is the only show we DVR, because, you know, Girls is now done, and Veep is done.
	Hey, I've got to have some schlock to watch, the Offset C-Span, thank you very much.
	But the thing that bothers me is you never hear anyone say the ratings are up or down.
	You never hear anyone say the advertisers are pissed off.
	You don't hear any of that.
	And by the way, if news producers were that cute, I'd still be working in television.
	You know what I'm saying?
	I don't have to tell you.
	Anyway, so I can tell you how all of this happened because, of course, we have only one person to thank for the judgment, the ruling, the passing, the certification of the American Affordable Health Care Act, which, of course, has nothing to do with health care.
	It's got nothing to do with health care.
	It's all about insurance companies.
	Yeah, it's insurance companies.
	And by the way, what is this $700 number I keep reading?
	Everyone's saying, yeah, it's like your insurance for a family of four will be $700.
	I'm like, yeah, what, a month?
	I mean, is this a year?
	Yeah, but then they don't say that, just $700.
	But is that a month?
	It has to be, because most people I know that are paying for their own insurance are paying at least $1,000 a month.
	I think I'm paying $700, $800 now.
	Yeah, a month.
	And I've got three people?
	Yeah, a month.
	I've got myself, Ms.
	Mickey, and Christina.
	Yeah, that's about right.
	Yeah.
	Anyway.
	I think Horowitz mentioned on the show that he's paying $1,100 a month.
	Well, of course, he's krunk and kopf, so he has a precondition.
	Nice try.
	So Nancy Pelosi explained exactly who we have to thank for this.
	Can you think?
	Well, Obama.
	No.
	Wrong, wrong, wrong.
	I want to say a word about Senator Kennedy.
	I spoke to Vicki Kennedy this morning.
	Now listen, listen, listen.
	...to Patrick Kennedy before coming here, thanking them for the important role that he played, a lifetime of commitment to making health care a right, not a privilege, in our country.
	He called it the great unfinished business of our country, of our society.
	Hold on!
	When Lyndon Johnson tried to push the health care...
	You're stepping on the best parts.
	...and they just slammed it?
	That guy?
	Shut up, slave!
	I knew that when he left us, he would go to heaven and help pass the bill.
	and now I knew he was busily at work until this decision came down He was working the whole time.
	Clip of the day.
	Oh, I wasn't ready for it.
	Yes.
	Clip of the day.
	This is why you gotta watch C-SPAN. Because you don't get this stuff on the news.
	I heard that.
	I'm like, you've got to be kidding me.
	That's what you did.
	Ted Kennedy went to heaven and worked the whole time.
	Ted Kennedy went to heaven and passed a health care bill.
	Fantastic.
	Let's just listen to that again.
	The whole thing is 15 seconds.
	Would go to heaven and help pass the bill.
	And now I knew he was busily at work until this decision came down, inspiring one way or another.
	And now he can rest in peace.
	You're done.
	This woman is unbelievable.
	The Democrat Party should be ashamed of themselves for keeping her around.
	I still get jollies.
	How awesome is that?
	Yeah, pretty awesome.
	Let's thank some producers here who are dragging us through.
	We're a little light overall, but we do have some good producers.
	We've got two executives and two associates.
	What do we got?
	We've got someone.
	Todd Cochran.
	Hey!
	Hey, Todd!
	He was at the meet-up on there.
	He was at the meet-up.
	John and Adam, thank you for the hard work you put into the show.
	I look forward to being connected to the fellow podcasters out there.
	Pay it forward and donate to No Agenda.
	For the tech geeks out there, feel free to check out my personal show, Geek News Central.
	Guys looking for a little karma for a big business deal.
	I'm very close to closing.
	Need all the help I can get.
	Adam, it was great meeting up with you and Mrs.
	Mickey and Austin on Friday at the meetup.
	I wish you both the best and congratulations on your upcoming vetting.
	Well, that's very kind that he didn't have to do that.
	He actually paid for dinner and it was cool hanging out with him.
	He runs the Blue Brewery Network up there and he's in Hawaii.
	Nice.
	So the big business deal, I don't know if it's for podcasting, but we definitely send you some karma there, Todd.
	Thank you.
	You've got karma.
	That's kind of him.
	Anthony, 7, Westfield, Indiana, 3030303030303030303.
	Towards his 12-12-12 knighthood, I have no karma request at this time because I'm one lucky slave.
	I've been very blessed with good people and things in my life instead.
	Please wish all the slaves in the USA a happy Independence Day.
	Independent thinking and best wishes for you and for increased support.
	Anthony, 7, in Indianapolis is actually where he is.
	Very kind.
	A couple of three executive, associate executive producers, Scott in Dawsonville, Georgia, 22207.
	Sir Scott, to you, I just checked my spam email folder and realized I could have 20 million in offshore accounts, 40 hot Russian brides, and an island in the Antilles.
	I just need to respond.
	Screw that.
	I'd rather donate to the guys that keep me entertained and educated.
	Keep it up.
	Best podcast in the universe.
	Boners, step up and be donors.
	All he's really requesting is a little slide whistle.
	Timo Zaudema of Amstelvine.
	Amstelveen.
	Amstelveen.
	You know, eventually I'll be able to pronounce some of this stuff.
	No, no, you can get laid in Holland already.
	You're already that good.
	Trust me.
	I'm still vain.
	Thanks.
	Hey, baby, come over here and pull out my amsel vain.
	Keeping your listeners sane or at least paying attention to all the bull crap the media is spewing, I'd like to request a dedouching and some unlabeled karma.
	Could use some.
	Absolutely.
	You've been de-douched.
	You've got karma.
	That's all you've got to say.
	You go over there and say, hey baby, you want to see my Amstel vein?
	Danny Baker in Morristown, Tennessee, 200 even.
	Congratulations to Adam and Mickey on their wedding, and they should decide if Adam takes time off or not.
	A special episode with Mickey would be nice, I think.
	John, are you getting edged out?
	Emphasis on the I think.
	Are you getting edged out?
	Thanks.
	I bet you that would be very interesting.
	Thanks for the best podcast in the universe.
	I was at the market in Austin yesterday.
	Actually, it was kind of cool.
	You're following up on the Oryx, I hope.
	Yeah, we're all good to go.
	We're all good to go when we come back from our wedding trip.
	And so there's one guy, Tim, producer Tim, he goes to school, UT, studying astronomy.
	And he came up and said hi.
	And I was like standing at Farmer Chris's egg stand and I hear behind me, no agenda with Adam Curry and Webster Griffith Tarpley.
	I'm like, you've got to be kidding me.
	Nah, nah, they got it.
	It won't work.
	It won't work.
	See, it doesn't even sound right.
	Really?
	It does sound funny.
	Yeah.
	And Webster Tarpley.
	No, you've got to say Webster Griffin.
	That is indeed his real name.
	Yeah, Webster Griffin Tarpley, you've got to say.
	Yeah, Webster Griffin Tarpley.
	Anyway.
	Well, guys, thank you so much.
	And I say guys because it's all guys, as far as we know.
	Yeah, I want to make sure that people know to go to NoAgendaShow.com, NoAgendaNation.com, Dvorak.org, slash NA, and ChannelDvorak.com, slash NA, to keep us...
	Keep us on the air.
	And thank you to Martin J.J. for the artwork on episode 421.
	Beautiful.
	Of course, you can always see all of the submissions at noagendaartgenerator.info.
	You can find all of our...
	Actually,.com, I think.info is now.
	Oh,.com, I'm sorry, you're right.
	.com.
	Which is better anyway, noagendaartgenerator.com, which is a mouthful, but once you've typed it in a few times, don't worry, Firefox will remember it.
	And also want to thank, this is interesting, although we don't really need them anymore, Robert Hulsey.
	He says, I know this initiative is over, but I did a drunk URL purchase and got you googledrones.com, which is now forwarding to the show.
	I have to say, that's...
	Worth mentioning.
	Googledrones.com.
	I think that's good.
	You know, they'll have them.
	Oh, yeah.
	And I have some...
	They have their own army of drones.
	I have some drone stuff to discuss later on.
	Also, Joe Esposito, who I think is Joe the Dish Lave.
	Am I correct?
	Is that Joe Esposito?
	It sounds familiar.
	Yeah, so I've got to put a link in here under the PR. He's very excited about our Hot Pockets 2009 tour.
	Hot Pockets!
	Although we still need a trailer, and there will be a No Agenda Producer update after this program today.
	Ms.
	Mickey will be on the show giving an update about our upcoming trip.
	And he's so excited about Montana, he has made No Agenda Hot Pockets Montana t-shirts, which will become instant collector's items, I'm sure.
	I think it's kind of cool.
	Yeah, it's good.
	So that is it.
	Thank you all so much.
	Thanks to our executive producers and associate executive producers.
	These are actual credits.
	You can put them on your IMDB, on your curriculum, your resume, and unlike the phonies in Hollywood, we will actually vouch for you if someone brings into question the validity of these as actual media credits because they are...
	And of course, if you're too poor, just go out and help us by propagating the formula.
	My formula is this.
	We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
	Come on, little kid, yell it now.
	So I love that kid.
	It's very funny.
	That kid is just the best.
	She has a huge show business.
	You can imagine a world where you would end up hearing that from some little mean little kid who has their contingent of slaves.
	Oh yeah.
	I get emails from time to time.
	Rome.
	The days of Rome are back.
	I get emails from producers who say, hey, I got my kid to say in the morning.
	And I say, yeah, it's cute, but shut up slave is better.
	And they're like...
	Well, yeah, I'm kind of afraid to do that because, you know, the kid's going to say this to his mom one of these days.
	Like, you're probably right.
	So we had the...
	There's so much going on.
	We had the big Geneva meetup.
	Lucifer, Kofi, all those dudes.
	And I have a clip of that that might be good.
	Yeah, go ahead.
	Because my clips are better.
	So go ahead.
	You might be, because you may have more Hillary.
	I only have a little bit of Hillary.
	No, no, I have zero Hillary, so if you have some Clippity Club...
	Oh, I got some Hillary in mine.
	Yeah, give me some Hillary, man.
	This is Syria Redux with a Hillary stinger.
	Okay, hold on a second.
	First, we've got to do...
	It's Clippity Club.
	The message is clear.
	Just Clippity Club.
	I would have put...
	I'm going to put that at the end since she's very deep into the clip, but okay.
	Well, but she's coming, right?
	It's a heads up.
	It's a heads up.
	It's so that, you know, everyone knows it's coming.
	...is a somber judge.
	It will judge us all harshly.
	Kofi Annan warned ministers gathered in Geneva.
	Time was running out to stop the bloodshed in Syria and stop this crisis from spilling over.
	Stop the clip right there.
	How does Kofi Annan even stay into the game?
	Well, he's corrupt.
	I mean, we know that the oil for food program, his son is corrupt.
	You know, the whole Kofi Annan dynasty is one big corruption.
	So it's just like you go to central casting.
	We need some guy with like some U.N. kind of credibility, who talks kind of funny.
	Who you got?
	Who you got?
	We got Kofi Annan.
	He's like, works cheap now.
	Is he SAG? Uh, no.
	Not yet.
	Is he SAG eligible?
	Screen Extras Guild.
	Screen Extras.
	Is he SAG eligible?
	That's how they choose these douches.
	It's obvious.
	Go ahead and Google Kofi Annan oil for food program.
	Big crook.
	Under this pressure, the conference ended with an agreement.
	The power's presence said Syria needed a political transition led by a unity government.
	But it came with one key caveat.
	The final deal says that government could include members of the current regime.
	A consensus, but with concessions.
	While international powers agreed on a political transition for Syria, there was one key bone of contention.
	The transitional governing body could include members of the present government and the opposition and other groups should be formed on a basis of a mutual consent.
	A victory for Russian diplomacy.
	The longtime Syrian ally had refused to back a provision that would call for Syrian President Bashar al-Assad to step aside.
	We consider it to be of key importance that there is no attempt in the document to impose any kind of transitional process upon the Syrian side.
	So when they're talking, they show this Russian guy yakking away about whatever.
	Hillary is livid.
	And she looked harsh.
	She was pissed off about this.
	Yeah.
	Because they have their scheme, and then when she comes on in a couple of seconds, you'll hear, you know, she kind of downplays the whole thing.
	But she was just, steam was coming out of her ears when this Russian guy, you know, gets the credit for fixing the problem.
	You sure it wasn't because her hair looked like crap?
	Her hair didn't look good, but I've seen her hair worse.
	Did you see her face?
	She's got big puffy bags under her eyes.
	She's looking bad.
	She needs to go to Paris.
	Yes, this was not a good appearance.
	Maybe she can hit Paris on the way back.
	They'll be done by the Syrians themselves.
	But while the U.S. agreed to the plan, it remained clear on one central point.
	Assad will still have to go.
	He will never pass the mutual consent test.
	Do not pass go.
	Do not collect $200.
	Given the blood on his hands.
	I do not believe that anyone in the Assad regime ever thought we could come out with a unified statement today expressing not only the concerns, but a path forward that would include Russia and China.
	And he needs to hear loudly and clearly that his days are numbered.
	It's clippity-clop.
	The message is clear.
	Just clippity-clop.
	Okay, so let me give you some analysis on this, because I've done some.
	So first of all, this whole thing, the Wesley Clark, the Wesley Clark Five, seven I should say, all the countries we're going to invade, this goes back to a strategy known as the redirection.
	And this was, of course, a Bush strategy.
	And the whole idea is to make a lot of noise there and essentially help our buddies out, the Saudi Arabians, which I'm going to get to in a second.
	They're doing so, you know, we have all the I mean, actually, I have I have the little Kofi clip, which is very short.
	We should probably just play it because, you know, it's 27 seconds.
	The guy's saying nothing.
	We are determined to work together urgently and intensively to bring about an end to the violence and human rights abuses.
	And the launch of a Syrian-led political process lead into a transition that meets the legitimate aspirations of the Syrian people and enables them independently and democratically to determine their own future.
	So, who gives a crap, Kofi?
	You just wasted 27 seconds of my life.
	You said nothing.
	But I figured out what they're doing here.
	The way to get around the United Nations Security Council is something known as R2P. Have you heard of R2P? No, I had to pee the other day, but...
	Right.
	R2P is a United Nations, and we've all signed on to it, rule of law, and it stands for Responsibility to Protect.
	This Responsibility to Protect principle, often referred to as R2P, and the prevention of atrocities.
	So this is the legal form that they're going to use.
	And you will see this when we do exactly what John McCain is about to tell us we're going to do.
	So R2P represents an important commitment by the international community to protect populations from egregious crimes.
	This is the senior lawyer.
	How long has R2P been in play?
	It's not last week.
	It's been years, right?
	Yeah, this is just something that's been on the books.
	Well, how come they didn't do crap about two million killed in Rwanda?
	Because it's the United Nations, dude.
	I don't give a...
	Duh.
	There's a reason for this.
	And if you want to know what's really going on, then who do you have to listen to?
	John McCain, the biggest shill in the universe.
	Because this guy, and now Warren Bork, I don't even know if he's a war hero anymore.
	This guy is such an a-hole.
	He works for the military-industrial complex.
	And, you know, we joke about how we're lucky we didn't get him as president.
	We would have been to the finish line much quicker because he reveals his plans just so easily.
	Like, oh, this is what it's about.
	Here's what we're going to do.
	He's speaking, so he's on the circuit.
	He's got to go to all the think tanks, get everybody all lined up.
	And this a-hole literally tells us what the strategy is and why.
	And I'm happy for it, of course, but it's brazen.
	Here's his speech this week at the Middle Eastern Institute.
	The true mission.
	The reason why Syria must go.
	And I left a little extra in because he's so sincere.
	Told us that killing and rape and torture is what they were instructed to do.
	Go rape these slaves!
	Go rape them!
	Rape them!
	as a tool of terror and rape and torture and intimidation.
	So if I get a little emotional when I talk about Syria, that's why.
	Because of the rape.
	script.
	The situation in Syria cries out for U.S. leadership.
	Yeah.
	Not just to save Syrian lives, but to support our ally, Turkey, when they need our support the most.
	Oh, oh!
	This is new information.
	It's not just to save Syrian lives.
	No, it's to support our ally, Turkey, when they need our support the most.
	Do tell me more, John McCain.
	The conflict in Syria is becoming a strategic threat to Turkey.
	Woo!
	Woo-hoo!
	The country is already facing massive flows of refugees, and it is welcoming them by the thousands.
	Turkish pilots are now shot down over international waters, according to Turkish leaders.
	And the longer this conflict grinds on, the worse it gets.
	The more sectarian divisions harden, the more Al-Qaeda It gains influence.
	The more the Syrian state disintegrates, and the more Turkey is faced with violent chaos on its border.
	Now, so, there's a little more to go here, but I want you to understand what he's saying.
	He's saying, this isn't about Syrian people getting killed.
	This is about Turkey.
	Poor Turkey, and they're great, and they're our buddies.
	I wonder why.
	I have to look into this.
	The United States needs to devote a fuller measure of its power to help end the conflict in Syria as soon as possible.
	Not just because it's the right thing to do.
	Not because it's the right thing to do, you silly slaves!
	Is that what you think this is about?
	And not just because it will be a strategic defeat for Iran, but because it can help to consolidate a new kind of relationship with Turkey.
	It can show the Turkish people and government that America is willing to take risks for the sake of their security and invest in their success.
	And that we are not an unreliable partner or a declining power, as some in Turkey allege.
	So this, of course, can only be about one thing, and it's not hookers.
	It's about oil and gas and pipelines.
	And wouldn't you know it, that on Tuesday, Turkey and Azerbaijan, remember, Azerbaijan, when we had the Eurovision Song Contest, we had the big Boku International Oil, Gas, and Pipeline Conference that Hillary Lucifer Clippity Klopp attended.
	They signed an intergovernmental agreement A $7 billion trans-Anatolian natural gas pipeline, TNAP, designed to carry Azeri natural gas across Turkey to Europe.
	Who does that screw?
	The Russians.
	In fact, Gazprom sent a warning to Turkey saying, hey, you better not do that because you are going to back our South Stream.
	You guys are Indian givers.
	This is not okay.
	Lucifer in Boku, John McCain saying we're your bestest buddies is all about their relationship with the energy companies.
	The whole Syria is just bull crap.
	And...
	This is getting interesting.
	Let me add...
	Of course, you know, and it is such bull crap because the Turks have gone Islamist.
	They've set up a new...
	By the way, I think the model that we're seeing, the script for Egypt, is similar to what we saw in Turkey, where the first Islamist gets in.
	Let me give you one more data point.
	One more data point.
	There was a Q&A, and...
	I think there's an Egyptian guy who stands up, and I'll ask the question, I'll reiterate his question because it's a little hard to hear, but listen to what he says.
	Do you know that the opposition forces in Syria is Muslim Brotherhood, and they have a very good relation with the Turkish, or the Saudi who's supporting the Salafists in Syria?
	So this guy says, you know...
	That the opposition is Muslim Brotherhood, and that it's all basically sponsored by the Saudis.
	And then he says...
	What is the American interest?
	What is the American interest in this?
	I mean, we could listen to John McCain stutter and stammer for 57 seconds, but he doesn't answer the question.
	And he's like...
	Play it!
	Play it!
	Thank you.
	If I understand the question...
	You understood the question, a-hole.
	Correctly.
	He should have said, that's a great question.
	I think that the Saudis are very concerned about events in Syria, obviously, as is Qatar, as is UAE, as even Libya is, about events and the unfairness of the conflict.
	And the longer this drags out, obviously, the more likely or possibility that it could become a proxy war between Iran and Saudi Arabia.
	And not to mention, the longer it drags out, the more likely foreign fighters come in and there's a greater influence of al-Qaeda and other extremist organizations.
	All I can say is that the Syrian resistance needs help.
	So, before you jump in, Saudi Arabia...
	Signed a memorandum of understanding with the state oil company of Azerbaijan, Sokar.
	This happened two weeks ago.
	So the Saudis, Azerbaijan, Turkey, all working together.
	Makes total sense.
	On the other hand, we have Gazprom.
	You know, we had...
	What's-his-face from Russia was visiting Israel.
	And they're going to launch an Israeli subsidiary that will help develop Israel's offshore gas reserves.
	And, all future international tenders issued by Israel in the gas sector would be open to Gazprom and other Russian companies.
	So, there's all your pieces on the chessboard.
	Well, this brings to mind a couple of things.
	First of all, let's take a look at Turkey, which was taken over with a fair election by an Islamist who was the first one that got anywhere close to that office president of Turkey.
	Without being ousted by the military, which is very similar to the situation that was in Egypt, where the military actually holds so much power that if you were violating, in the case of Turkey, the edict that you could not be...
	An Islamist and even discuss it in public without getting arrested.
	The EU had forced Turkey to stop doing this because it was a human rights violation.
	But when Ataturk first created modern Turkey, he knew that this was the only way to keep these Muslim nutcases, the worst case scenario guys, the Salafists, who were specifically mentioned by that guy asking the question, I might say.
	Yes.
	And they stone by curious people like me.
	They would, definitely.
	You'd be stoned for sure, in more ways than one.
	So anyway, so the model is you get in and then you slowly, and they arrested a bunch of the generals who were plotting against the president, and it was a very slow process to take over, but they haven't completely implemented everything yet.
	Excuse me, the same exact script is going to be implemented in Egypt, which also has a strong military that is actually trained by us.
	Now, to call back to what you said about Hillary maybe being in bed with the Muslim extremists.
	Literally, with Huma Abedin.
	With Uma, or whoever her name is.
	Uma Abedin, yes.
	This looks to me as though we have jumped in bed with the worst people in the world, at least from our own perspective, because they've never liked us, and they never will under any circumstance.
	We're the great Satan.
	Yes.
	It's crazy.
	And the Russians must be beside themselves watching this go on because none of these people will turn on us in a minute.
	Now, that said, it's possible that we would love to just screw things up in certain areas because that's one of the things we do.
	And when people are over and analyzing what we're up to, sometimes miss what we're really up to, which may be to create a...
	The situation, especially in Europe, it just essentially breaks their back by creating some sort of friction between these two gas and oil companies.
	I don't know.
	I can't say for sure, but this is not a good thing.
	It's fascinating to me.
	And it's bullcrap.
	Everything McCain says is bullcrap.
	The guy is a liar.
	Yeah.
	I love this Megyn Kelly Fox report.
	Of course, now we have Mercy, who is now the first democratically elected president of Egypt.
	Let me tell you, I think they were doing fine.
	You've got to find the picture that's on the front page.
	Everybody out there should find the front page of the New York Times Saturday, where there's a picture of this guy showing that he has no protection, and he's surrounded by a bunch of goons with sunglasses on that.
	It's just the funniest photo I have seen for years.
	Yeah.
	Here's a little sound bite from Fox that someone sent me that I thought was just hilarious because I have no words for it.
	Here we go.
	This guy Morsi, he was educated here in the West, in the United States, and yet when you look at his list of highlights, the one that jumps out at me is he wants the United States to hold a scientific conference so we can determine The real culprits behind the 9-11 attacks, because he doesn't believe it was Al-Qaeda.
	That doesn't sound good.
	That doesn't sound good, does it?
	It doesn't sound good.
	She nailed that.
	The first thing he demanded, I think, was to get that sheik, the blind sheik.
	Yes, the blind sheik.
	That's right.
	To get him released.
	I have the clip.
	I have the clip.
	Hold on.
	I have the clip.
	I have the clip.
	...an image from Egypt today and words that have ignited anger back here at home.
	Mohamed Morsi took the oath of office as Egypt's first freely elected president, but remarks he made in the last 24 hours causing alarm here in the U.S. Morsi pledged to work for the release of a blind sheikh who is serving a life sentence in the U.S. for plotting the first attack on the World Trade Center.
	Oh yeah, this is going to be very interesting.
	He's already playing tit for tat.
	You give me this, I give you that.
	Hey, how about my $3 billion?
	Okay, and maybe I'll throw the sheik under the bus.
	And wait until he turns his sights on Israel, because once they completely take over Egypt, which will be soon, I mean, they took over...
	That Tahrir Square thing was wild.
	I mean, it was all Salafists, and they're all wearing their hoods and their crazy outfits and screaming everything short of death to America.
	What do you mean by crazy outfits, John?
	What are you talking about?
	The burkas, you know, the women are all covered up already.
	That's sexy, man.
	I love the burkas.
	Yeah, well, a lot of them, they don't even show their eyeballs.
	It's a complete black.
	Yeah.
	But anyway, this is beside the point.
	The point is they're going to turn their sights on Israel, and I'm convinced, and I'm just stunned that, you know, it's obvious that Israel is a target to be just...
	You know, to be messed with and used as a pawn.
	It's used as a pawn for the Iranian missile or bomb they're not really building.
	And it's going to be used as a pawn with Egypt.
	I mean, they're just essentially...
	A ball being kicked around.
	And this is amazing to me that all the American, you know, the Jewish contingent is so democratic.
	But we have the Russians now with the Israelis.
	And they, of course, are going to go straight up through Cyprus into Greece.
	Gazprom is going to own all the Greek assets.
	And they're going to shoot it all up from the south.
	Well, you know, Turkey is still going to build this thing from Azerbaijan.
	And so I think the Israelis and the Russians, they're like having, you know, I think both of them are in cahoots.
	And we're still, which we've been doing since the 70s, we're still dicking around with the Saudis.
	You know, I think when these pipelines go in, shooting in every which way, we're going to get a lot of stories, and we're going to be discussing it on this show, of these things being bombed left and right.
	Blown up, absolutely.
	Oh, yeah.
	We're going to have drone strikes here.
	Lots of drones.
	Yeah, lots of drones.
	Maybe I should get into my drone story here.
	This is a good transition.
	For, I think, John C. Dvorak, we have been submitted to a very effective PSYOP. We have been PsyOpt for years.
	You and I as well.
	If it's any good, it has to do work.
	Yes, and in fact, I should probably...
	We suck!
	Wah, wah, wah, wah!
	I will point out before Wired and Danger Room and everybody else, we were talking about drones.
	We've been talking about drones for years.
	We've been predicting drones over U.S. skies.
	And it happened kind of so forcefully and so massively that we didn't even really have a chance to say, yeah, we kind of told you that was going to happen.
	Right?
	It was amazing.
	Now let me lay down a couple of...
	This latest news story, which came out of Texas, which we talked about on Thursday, this was bothering me.
	It was really bothering me, and I figured out what's going on.
	It's a big psychological warfare, and we can get out the red book because we're going to put this one down, and we need to keep our eye on this.
	So first of all...
	We had the drones.
	We had the stories of tired, overworked personnel.
	They have, you know, stress, 12 hours.
	It's so weird.
	We had the unencrypted data links, right?
	It was, oh, my, you know, like, oh, people can see the video.
	Maybe someone could hijack the drone.
	Remember all those stories?
	Then we actually had a drone hijacked, a Ron...
	Got one of our drones.
	Of course, we have continuous stories about signature strikes.
	This is all code, signature strikes.
	But yeah, we laugh.
	Like, if you're doing a jumping jack, then you have the signature.
	But of course, even Facebook has facial recognition.
	Google has facial recognition for their new tablet.
	I mean, this is all...
	And we have the Gorgon Stair and the Argus IR. These are all things that have been in the show notes before, where we have real high-resolution, real-time data over 600-700 kilometers.
	I mean, this is really, really, really highly visible stuff.
	Then, and I was just talking about this actually with, I won't say who, but one of the people who was at the meetup, because of course we've got to protect some of what these guys are doing or have done.
	The biggest problem, and there's lots of new stories about this, is we're running out of satellite bandwidth.
	Both for the video feeds, which can be 20 gigabits a second, but also for controlling the drones.
	They can't fly all the drones simultaneously because they don't have the satellite link, so we can't get satellites up fast enough.
	And then we have the big story, which is the GPS hijack.
	And what bothered me about this is that the Department of Homeland Security invited...
	Todd E. Humphreys, he is the scholar at University of Texas, invited them to demonstrate if they were capable of successfully spoofing the GPS system to take over the drone.
	Now, if you invite someone from the University of Texas to To come and do that.
	And they're successful.
	Do you send out press releases?
	Do you have all this big hoopla?
	Whoa!
	It's completely viral next to the Tom Cruise 33 story.
	I wonder if people listen to the show because it's not like we haven't talked about this.
	They're sending me the story.
	Oh, the spoofing drones!
	Which, of course, we also said would happen.
	So I'm like, this is PR. And I tried to figure out what it was.
	And I think the...
	You know, having a new secure GPS, non-spoofable GPS system is too simple an answer.
	And here's why.
	I look into this Todd Humphreys guy.
	Now, he currently works, Todd E. Humphreys, he currently works at University of Texas.
	Previously, he was at Cornell, PhD in aerospace.
	And Cornell University is very specific to And by the way, these are not just courses that they have at the university.
	These are commercial entities.
	They have high-tech incubators.
	You know, these universities where technology is made and then sold to defense-related companies.
	They have something called CU Air, Q Air, CU Air, which is Cornell University Unmanned Air Systems.
	And before I tell you exactly what their focus is, let me...
	I'll give you the list of their sponsors.
	You can find it at qair.engineering.cornell.edu.
	So these are the platinum sponsors who sponsor this research at Cornell University, where this Todd E. Humphreys came from.
	We have Electronic Warfare Associates, Lockheed Martin, Intel, Space Systems, Laurel.
	We have, what is it, CloudCap Technology.
	These are big sponsors.
	Especially Lockheed and Laurel.
	These are big defense contractors.
	So they're sponsoring all this so-called research.
	And what do they specialize in?
	They specialize, actually our goal, I'm quoting from their website, is to design, build, and test an unmanned autonomous aircraft.
	Aha!
	Autonomous drones.
	That's where this is headed, John.
	And Google is complicit in this by making us all feel so incredibly great about the autonomous car.
	It can drive itself.
	It doesn't need any help.
	The IEEE... Another organization that Todd E. Humphries is a member of.
	They have their Plans 2012 conference.
	And let me give you one of their fine little topics.
	Vision Integrated Navigation for Vehicular and Robotic Applications.
	Projects, concepts, systems, advanced algorithms related to emerging vision-based navigation applications in vehicular and robotic applications, including autonomous air and ground vehicles.
	This is about making the drones autonomous with their own kill decision, their own idea of this signature fits, and they're unhijackable.
	And Toddy Humphries, just to make it crazier, is a Mormon.
	He's really big in the Mormon community.
	What do the Mormons have, John?
	They've got the biggest freaking database of every human being in the world.
	And you can probably think they're going to have pictures associated with that.
	So is Toddy Humphries?
	Toddy Humphries, this is a bad guy.
	I'll give you why this is so important.
	In warfare...
	The first war machine we really had, well, let's put it in the Middle Ages, were knights.
	You could put a knight in some armor, give him a sword, put him on a horse, and he was indestructible.
	He would chop heads off of peasants, he would kill people left and right.
	You could chuck a spear at him, some rocks, throw fire.
	It wasn't going to stop the knight.
	Then we had gunpowder.
	And gunpowder was great because you didn't need to train some dude to ride a horse with metal on.
	You just give this stick to these idiots and say, point in that direction, pull the trigger, boom!
	But of course, in order to win wars and to be powerful, you had to have a lot of human resources carrying these guns.
	And this is obviously, the government is most afraid here in the United States of the civilian population because I don't care what kind of weaponry you're coming with, when the entire population is armed or has access to guns, you're generally, you know, the odds are stacked against you.
	So what is the ultimate is to remove the human element from warfare and just program these drones.
	They can fly in swarms.
	We've seen the videos.
	We've been so propagandized and made so used to it that I guarantee you we're going to see huge money.
	We'll have bills in Congress.
	We'll have defense guys saying, we need this.
	It's really important for autonomous drones.
	And that...
	That will be the destruction of the world because all you need is money.
	And when you have money, you can build a drone, you can build it in China, you can copy them, you can do whatever you want, and every freaking country in the world is going to have them.
	And when they're autonomous, get in the basement.
	Well, that's a pretty picture.
	By the way, added to the kill list today, killlist.curry.com, eight more suspected militants in Pakistan killed by a drone.
	You can keep track of it.
	Of course, this happens every week after the Tuesday kill list meeting where they look at the baseball cards and the PowerPoints and the president says, yeah, that guy.
	But pretty soon...
	No meetings.
	The president can just sit in his office and watch the video, which is known as Kill TV, by the way, by the drone people, and just watch the video.
	And the drones will do all the business in itself.
	And this all came together to me, John.
	People have been trying to tell me this, and I didn't quite understand it, but we have people who are in this business listening to our show.
	Yeah, we do.
	And they've been trying to tell me in not-so-subtle ways, and all of a sudden it all clicked for me when I saw this UT thing.
	We are being set up and made ready to accept the idea of autonomous drones.
	Flying around, making decisions based upon rules, and killing us.
	Yeah, well, there you have it.
	Welcome to the 21st century.
	That's enlightening.
	There we go.
	Donations down to the dumpster.
	People should be buying guns.
	It's not going to do you much good.
	You have to shoot at these things because they should come by.
	Probably those guys with those tubes in Spain will have a better shot at it.
	Well, I still believe the populations have, you know, a voice, and we can at least try and say, no, we don't think that's a good idea.
	Yeah, that's going to work.
	Denmark is even getting drones.
	Denmark Defense Minister Nick Hookerup wants Denmark to follow other countries, have its own drones to take over some of the monitoring and battle tasks currently handled by the country's F-16s.
	I can see a list of tasks that would be obvious to let drones carry out instead of fighter aircraft, Hookerup tells information sources, adding that surveillance of Arctic regions would be one area.
	Sure, that's where all the oil is.
	Drones are a relevant alternative, particularly in times of austerity, when they can supplement aircraft.
	But they can also see benefit of using them as weaponry.
	Yeah, exactly.
	It's beautiful.
	So that's it.
	And how good is all that?
	I mean, it frightens me that the government thinks they can build some artificial intelligence probably based on their investment in Facebook.
	I mean, this is essentially, not that we've sunk this low, but this is essentially RoboCop 1, the movie.
	Yeah, Skynet.
	Well, no, Skynet is not from RoboCop.
	What was Skynet?
	That was from Terminator.
	Terminator, right.
	Well, it's a combination, kind of.
	It's a combination.
	Well, actually, RoboCop 1, where you had these autonomous machines that were going to police Detroit.
	Right.
	It's essentially this.
	And why would you not have, you know, you come down to a lower level, you have autonomous, you could have an autonomous police force using the Google technology, floating around, pulling you over, giving you tickets, or just taking your number and sending you the bill.
	But see, that's all hard.
	The flying part is relatively easy.
	You know, because getting these things up there and flying around, it's relatively easy.
	You don't have to deal with traffic, or not a lot of traffic.
	Yeah, no, that's true, but the driverless cars.
	But we've been duped.
	We've been duped into thinking this is great.
	Well, we never thought it was great.
	Well, no, it was autonomy.
	Specifically by Google with their car.
	They're a part of the setup.
	This is the psychological warfare.
	They're a part of it.
	Why does Google have to make a freaking self-driving car?
	Make search.
	Give me Gmail.
	All right, do your Google+.
	What's with the car?
	Seriously, what is the business reason for Google and the car?
	Yeah.
	Seriously, you can't answer it because the only reason is it's an NSA project.
	Well, the car's coming.
	Of course, of course.
	And so are the drones.
	Of course.
	But they're going to be loaded, cocked, and pointed in your direction.
	And when one goes off accidentally and kills a bunch of people like that incident, as you recall, where the Chinese embassy was blown to smithereens during the Clinton administration by accident, we already are set up for the accidents.
	I mean, nobody bitched about that.
	So here's the only things we can do.
	There's nothing we can do.
	We're doomed.
	No, we're not doomed.
	Now, I have more hope than that.
	I can just see Miss Mickey smiling.
	She's like, yes, yes, I've programmed him.
	Very good.
	Boris and Natasha.
	Stop using Google.
	Just stop using Google.
	Stop using Google and do what?
	Just pull on your Amstel vein.
	But stop using Google.
	Just stop using Google.
	If you're in the University of Texas, drop out now.
	Just drop out.
	Drop out.
	You are supporting the destruction of the universe.
	And what else can we do?
	Oh, if you see this Toddy Humphreys, stomp on his feet.
	Kick him in the shins.
	That's what my mom used to say.
	I'll kick him in the shins.
	Where did that come from?
	It came from movies.
	If you remember, there's old W.C. Fields movies.
	Like W.C. Fields or somebody would be walking up the street just by themselves and a little kid would come running out of a yard and kick him in the shins and then run off for no reason.
	I remember my mom used to say that.
	Kick him in the shins, like, how does that even, you know, what is that?
	What does that even mean?
	Don't do it anymore.
	The little kids used to do that routinely.
	It's an equalizer.
	It hurts to get your shins.
	Yeah, no, it sucks for sure.
	Anyway, so that was my big revelation.
	And let's all be on the lookout for more of this propaganda.
	And at least alert ourselves about it.
	That's about the best we can do.
	And combat it that way.
	Because you just have to be aware that you are being...
	There is psychological warfare being practiced on you right now.
	And the amount of virality of this drone hijacking is a big part of it.
	So please put that in the book.
	Mark it down on July 1st, 2012.
	This thing, I mean, the next big session we have, the next conversation about defense budgets or whatever, is going to be about autonomous drones.
	Now, the only thing is, they've got to have a different name for it.
	And I haven't quite figured out, because, you know, autonomous, that's too complicated for the slaves.
	We've got to have a, you know, a cool name.
	So I think part of the self-driving...
	Indie drone.
	What?
	Indie drone.
	Nah.
	The autonomous car is helping because people get that.
	They don't call it that.
	It's called self-driving.
	So self-flying?
	No.
	But it's all going to be like, this is safe.
	We don't want Iran hijacking another one of our drones.
	But you won't hear a lot about the Go-Go drones.
	That's a good one.
	I like that.
	Robo drone.
	No, that's too scary.
	That's too scary.
	Go-Go drones.
	Chat room is happy little drones.
	Yeah, that's nice.
	Happy little day.
	And also, by the way, maybe the word drone has to go.
	Yes, the Curry-Devorak Consulting Group is available to the Ministry, the Department of Defense, if you need some help.
	I think these things need a paint job.
	I mean, you definitely need to paint smiley faces on them.
	And they should be painted blue, a pretty blue sky blue.
	Yeah, exactly.
	That would be a gorgeous thing to see, a nice baby blue device instead of this ugly gray-looking monstrosity.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, the gray is not helping your cause here, people.
	Do you really want to do it right?
	Guardian Angels.
	Ooh, I like that one.
	Ooh, that is good.
	Guardian Angels.
	Finally something from the chat room.
	Buddy in the sky.
	Buddy in the sky.
	Buddy in the sky with diamonds.
	Roads are your friends.
	Buddy in the sky.
	I think Guardian Angel.
	That's a great project name.
	Guardian Angel.
	Yeah, well, anyway.
	Okay, well we got big news here in California.
	Oh, this must be the foie gras.
	Yeah, it's over.
	Today is the day.
	Congratulations.
	Canada's birthday.
	On Canada's birthday, we've banned foie gras because it's so important that we ban it.
	Gris, protesting in San Francisco outside a goodbye foie gras event.
	Executive chef at Bernardus Lodge, Cal Staminoff, has been part of efforts for the last two years to keep foie gras on the table.
	We use it for a lot of our background, like for some of our soups, and it gives, instead of using butter, we use duck fat.
	But anyone caught selling foie gras starting Sunday will face a $1,000 fine.
	Until then, it's on the Bernardus menu.
	Other local restaurants have sold out.
	I think it's a little bit of taking away our rights to be able to eat what we want.
	Staminoff says the delicacy is just one of the ingredients that make restaurants like his what they are.
	There is quite a few upper end restaurants that do need to supply some indulgent ingredients like caviar and foie gras and truffles.
	Now, the first fines that restaurants could see if they disobey this new ban is actually $250, and then it can grow from there.
	But restaurants and chefs really aren't entirely sure how this new ban is going to be policed.
	So that's something that they will watch going forward, but of course they're going to try to obey that to start off with.
	Alright, Brittany, thank you.
	Some restaurants tell us they've already sold out of their foie gras supplies.
	So, if you are going out for that last foie gras meal, make sure you call ahead.
	That's right.
	The foie gras police.
	The foie gras police are coming your way.
	This is all thanks to PETA. This is just the beginning of the end.
	You and I have consumed foie gras together.
	Yeah, unfortunately, you know, the thing a lot of people don't realize is that the foie gras you get in the United States, 90% of it is duck.
	Right.
	And the really good stuff is goose.
	But how come the ducks are, is it just goose foie gras you can't have?
	No, no, you can't have any foie gras.
	It was because of the duck foie gras that they banned it.
	Because they're force-feeding ducks, and ducks are so cute, and geese are mean.
	Yeah, they hiss at you.
	People got...
	I mean, talking about...
	You know, but there's some thematic stuff going on here because there's Duck News.
	Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh.
	Hold on.
	I'm sorry.
	We don't have a jingle for it, but we'll hit it.
	This farmer in a rice-growing area near Tokyo once used lots of pesticides on his crops.
	These days, he uses ducks.
	Like an advancing battalion, the hungry ducks clear the field of weeds and plant-destroying insects one bite at a time.
	It would be much easier to use pesticides, but we don't know their effect in the long run.
	We could also use humans, but that would be much more expensive.
	So we prefer to use ducks who work in a very systematic manner.
	On top of eradicating insects, ducks will help till the soil with their webbed feet.
	But there are other advantages.
	Their waste is a good fertilizer, so we don't have to use much of our own.
	Then we can eat the ducks when the season is over.
	You can eat the ducks when the season's over.
	So you've got the drone stories.
	You've got the analysis that's going to affect our day-to-day life.
	But I've got the duck stories.
	You are an awesome man, John C. Devorak.
	The web feet will help plow the field somehow.
	It's all Canada's fault.
	Because where do geese come from?
	Hello!
	Thanks, Canada.
	You've got to blame Canada, right?
	I don't know who to blame.
	I'm just saying it's just that we can't get foie gras anymore because, you know, they're telling us what to eat.
	Heaven forbid we force feed a duck.
	Meanwhile, the Japanese are going to eat these ducks that have so, you know, they've gone into their fields and eaten the insects and done what they had to do, and then they get eaten.
	I mean, I don't see the difference.
	I don't understand one thing.
	You have this duck story that you don't use your duck call.
	This is a faux pas on the foie gras.
	There you go.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	We get it.
	I'm done with it.
	I'm done with ducks.
	There's this great...
	Someone sent me this link to...
	I guess there was a short...
	Let's see if I can find it real quick.
	There was a short movie competition.
	And let me see what it's called.
	Hold on a second.
	Great Short Films.
	And...
	I'm not quite sure who put this out.
	Great short films.
	The winner, and this came out about a month ago, is an eight-minute movie, and it's linked in the show notes, 422.nashownotes.com, called The Gate.
	And it is...
	I mean, the production value on this, it's of, you know...
	Terminator quality.
	It's short, but you've got vertical takeoff landing aircraft.
	You've got soldiers with hydraulic suits.
	It's amazing.
	Beautifully shot.
	This is no small little film.
	There's some real big money behind it, although not mentioned in the credits.
	And the premise of the movie is that people start transforming into these horrible, ugly, four-footed, murderous creatures that also, you know, like, they kind of like, they look a little bit like the thing and not the thing.
	What's the Sigourney Weaver?
	Alien.
	Alien, right.
	The head looks like alien, but it's people.
	It starts off with the biblical quote, which I think is interesting.
	Yeah.
	So here is the setup in the movie.
	I've pulled two clips as to what is happening.
	Cytology research at Roslin identified part of the biological process that we now know to be responsible.
	By this stage, research efforts were focused on what role DNA might have during these episodes, and quite quickly the Roslin team determined that certain long-redundant gene sequences were becoming activated.
	It's never been clear as to what their function or purpose may have been in the past, but one theory is that they once played an important role in the evolutionary process.
	So there's something happening with these people's DNA in this movie.
	Are you watching it while we're talking?
	Yeah.
	Oh, you know what?
	You turn on your YouTubes and you got helium.
	Oh, really?
	Yeah.
	Turn off the clip.
	Turn it off.
	Your bandwidth blows.
	So I'm like, wow, there's so much money behind this thing.
	Who made it?
	That is all revealed around the eight-minute mark.
	Here is the relevant clip.
	At 8.54 p.m., Mr.
	Wiseman was found deceased in the fourth-floor lobby area.
	But most importantly, physical evidence found in Mr.
	Wiseman's office...
	was confirmation that he regularly purchased pharmaceutical products via an unregulated online retailer.
	The discovery of similar products found in the possession of the other victims led to the conclusion that they too had made purchases from the very same website.
	Forensic analysis of this evidence revealed that it contained a highly unstable synthesized property that was chemically similar to hormone that is naturally found in the process of DNA construction and repair.
	It is this similarity that has prevented earlier detection during the pathology examinations.
	In short, the prolonged usage of this unstable chemical combined with an unusual blood group eventually culminated in activating the catastrophic biological process that caused their deaths.
	So here's the idea.
	If you use unregulated medicines that you purchase on the internet, you will wind up a creature that eats people.
	Funded entirely by Big Pharma.
	Unbelievable.
	That's how they get it for all the special effects.
	And you're still watching because you're totally...
	No, no, I turned it off.
	I think once it triggers, I'm screwed.
	I'm going to sound like this for the rest of the show.
	It would be okay if it didn't cut out from time to time.
	Okay, well, let's reconnect.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Can you just do one thing for me, John, before you go?
	What?
	Can you sing the Lollipop Land song?
	I don't know it.
	Just say...
	Oh, just go Oompa Loompa.
	Go Oompa Loompa.
	Go Oompa.
	Come on, man.
	Do it.
	Say Oompa Loompa.
	Come on.
	No.
	Dick.
	Finally some humor on the show.
	Goodbye.
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	Hello?
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	Oh, you sound like crap.
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	Yeah, you're connecting.
	Oh, man.
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	Hold on.
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	It still works.
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	Whoa.
	He's screaming at the sky at drones while wearing a hopefully fashionable tinfoil hat.
	By the way, when the autonomous drones come, interestingly enough, the fallacy, the funny thing is, the only way to actually protect yourself will be by wearing a tinfoil hat.
	It's possible.
	Uh-huh.
	Yeah.
	They all laughed.
	And he says, apparently he enjoys the...
	We need a tinfoil hat that shoots chaff.
	A chaff hat?
	A chaff hat!
	Yeah, this hat on is made of tinfoil.
	And when it detects an incoming hellfire missile from the drone, it shoots chaff.
	So anyway, he thinks he's amusing that I specifically refer to Saskatoon as the Paris of Canada.
	Yeah, it's where they got all the money, right?
	Well, Saskatoon doesn't have the...
	The money is in Edmonton and Calgary.
	Oh.
	But Saskatoon's got the style, the class.
	It's like Paris in the 50s.
	Yeah.
	Anyway, give him his karma.
	He wants a whooping karma.
	No, I thought he said he wanted a no-confrict.
	Well, he says whoop him later in the thing.
	For it to get laid, Carm, I'd like a no-conflict.
	Reverend Manning, whoop him, Carm.
	Okay, you got both.
	Okay, well, I could do everything.
	There's a lot of work here.
	Really, really?
	There's no real conflict!
	Now get out there and whoop Obama's behind me!
	You've got karma.
	Well, that was a long route.
	Well, there you go.
	Trent Drake in Western Australia, 6969.
	Could have covered us.
	From Perth.
	Definitely not one of those Aussie ferret-loving freaks.
	But he wants a quick douchebag call-out for his brother, Carl Drake.
	This will be the third time I've called him out.
	That's a charm.
	Give him a second one.
	Yeah, for sure.
	Douchebag!
	There we go.
	It's five now.
	Second Mile Productions in Melbourne, Ohio.
	Oh, Brian and Susie.
	Yeah, where we stayed during the Hot Car Story.
	We asked for house hunting karma.
	Didn't work, or did it?
	After we had to pass on the first house, Adam told us to be patient.
	And I'm glad we were.
	This past week, we signed the closing papers on our dream property.
	152 acres in Maine.
	Wow.
	Thanks, Karma.
	But the week just got better.
	Yay!
	Cool!
	lady at the garage sale.
	She said she was looking for a house and we scheduled a viewing for our current house on Monday.
	So I need some house selling karma.
	The donation amount is because our new house payment and down payment both contain 666.
	Adam, you and Mickey are welcome anytime in a new place in Maine.
	It seems like I could build a house there with 152 acres.
	That is awesome.
	Well, congratulations, guys.
	I couldn't be happier for you.
	And thanks again for putting up with us last year.
	You've got karma.
	I'm very happy for them.
	You know, Susie has just an awesome garden.
	I can only imagine...
	She's going to have, like, she could be her own farmer's market with that kind of acreage.
	Good.
	Good.
	Yeah, very good.
	We're going.
	We'll visit for sure, guys.
	Not this summer, but we'll visit for sure.
	Sir Joe the Dish Slave in Stockton comes in with $60.
	$60 towards his wife's damehood.
	Appreciate a mention of his show site, ozonenightmare.com, and some post-operation recovery karma from my wife's granddad.
	Absolutely.
	You've got karma.
	From Augusta, Georgia, Jason Morella, 5555, and he's a fiver, fiver, fiver, fiver from Adam.
	Fiver, fiver, fiver, fiver!
	I'm now also a knight, so he's got his little accounting here.
	Yeah, he hit it.
	I am proud of the fact that I've achieved this honor mostly on monthly donations, but as an added token of my appreciation for what you guys do, I'm donating another palindrome amount for this Sunday's show.
	I would like to be dubbed Sir Dagojay.
	Dagojay.
	Dagojay.
	Dago J. It is the email and forum handle I've been using for over a decade.
	Okay.
	Sir Dago J. Got it.
	All right.
	Andrew Richter, Andy Richter from Wayne, Michigan, 5510, had to donate his response to the guy complaining about the newsletter.
	It looks great on the Gmail app for Android.
	Don't change a thing!
	After three donations, I'm finally ready for a de-douching.
	I could use some karma refill.
	Thanks for continuing the best podcast in the universe.
	Adam should take his wedding weekend off.
	And we'll talk about that afterwards.
	You've been de-douched.
	You've got karma.
	Benicia, California, Mark Pipkin, birthday boy.
	Thanks for all the hard work you guys do so I don't have to.
	Here's a small value for value, 5510.
	Please apply it to my smoking hot MILF, the presumptive Dame Rico's Damehood.
	Could I please get a birthday shout-out for Human Resource Kai, who turns 11 on Wednesday.
	Finally, please send us some cross-country moving karma as we're going to join the hordes of California refugees this summer, settling in parts of West Carolina.
	Yeah, I'm looking.
	I don't think...
	Oh, yeah, Kai is on the list.
	Okay, good.
	Yeah, here's your moving karma.
	You've got karma.
	It's nice in South Carolina.
	We start to wrap up.
	Danny, I think he could be in North Carolina.
	Both states are nice.
	Danny Wong, Livermore, California.
	Home of the radiation field.
	510.
	Also, where we're getting our beef.
	I'm back again.
	The original stoner donor.
	I meant to donate for the 420 show, but forgot.
	I asked for karma and a de-douching on the last donation, but Adam was laughing so hard at your stoner voice that he missed it.
	Additionally, I've heard you mention Marinol and other forms of synthetic THC. My mother has been in the medical industry for many years.
	She's been sending me publications from MD and nurse, only subscriber medical journals that point to several mental psychoses as a result of all forms of synthetic THC so far.
	She sent me multiple articles on the subject.
	I just thought I'd add in that I've heard of Maranol in multiple places but never discussed side effects.
	Can I get a gospel in the morning jingle to accompany my previously owed karma and de-douching?
	Thanks.
	Keep up the media assassinations and production of the best podcast in the world.
	Okay.
	My children, it's a Sunday morning service.
	Tell us just to know what gender.
	We're going to get some out of courage.
	We're going to get a little job.
	Job.
	To the world.
	Lord, help us out.
	In the morning.
	You've been de-douched.
	You've got karma.
	Another long ways.
	Podcast for Peace from Alamo, California, 5150.
	You need some prosperity karma.
	You've got karma.
	Sir Greg Brunsell in Kenosha, Wisconsin, 50.
	Rick Dolishni.
	I think I've always pronounced that right.
	No?
	No.
	Peterborough, Ontario, Canada.
	From mom and dad for earning honor roll status at his grade 8 graduation.
	That's a congratulation to his son, Bryce Dolishni, for his grade 8 graduation.
	However, dad's going to call him out as a douchebag.
	Douchebag.
	He's Great!
	Yeah, really?
	Why?
	You're not going to the dance after the ceremony when the lovely valedictorian signaled him out during her speech as the class evil genius, Bryce.
	That means she likes you!
	Yeah, dude!
	Hello!
	Hello!
	He's gonna need some karma to be more alert to these signals while at high school in the fall.
	You should have done a 69-69 karma for him.
	Yeah.
	We've got karma.
	Grice!
	Grice!
	Get with it!
	The question is, was she hot?
	Well, apparently it was lovely.
	That's a minimal.
	Hmm.
	George Vanderhorst, Black Knight George, in Katzhovel.
	Katzhovel.
	Katzhovel.
	And he's in for 50, and that will conclude our donors for this show, 422.
	We also want to thank people who donated lesser amounts, as always.
	I want to thank Sergeant Fred.
	He came by our little meet-up on Friday.
	It was weird Friday.
	There was no traffic going.
	It was like the whole city was empty.
	Oh, they shut it down for you, the NSA. Yeah.
	Hey, guys.
	Adam Curry and Miss Mickey are coming in.
	Shut it down!
	Shut it down!
	And he gave us a double nickels on the dime on the spot donation.
	And I'd like to read his note here.
	Adam, thanks for your effort and research in producing.
	The greatest podcast in the universe!
	As a prior contributing producer, I'm delivering another Double Nickels on the Dime, which he does in paper, and then he also has a nice little two nickels and a dime scotch tape together.
	Uh...
	I will be...
	I'll have to take my glasses off.
	Uh...
	Okay.
	As Douglas MacArthur once said, nobody hates war more than the soldier who has to fight it.
	Also, one last shout-out to the theme of the recently released independent film called For Greater Glory.
	Yes, America was involved via economic hitmen for petroleum in 1926.
	This is a movie with, I think, Andy Garcia.
	But the focus of the film is this.
	When a president becomes dictatorial and tries to take away rights and liberties of the people, then resistance and possible rebellion may be the obligation as well as the right of the people.
	Keep your judge, bang, bang, and keep the faith.
	I appreciate the value of the No Agenda show.
	Love those jingles.
	Tell John C. Dvorak that I like the slide whistle as well.
	Can you please shoot me a bit of karma so I can finally end this drought of unemployment since I'm right now just getting by on a fixed income?
	Sincerely, Sergeant Fred.
	He also, by the way, paid for a lot of drinks, and we didn't catch him doing that, and we'd really appreciate it, but he didn't have to do that.
	And I'd like to promote his...
	He's got a podcast, The Struggling Entrepreneur, strugglingentrepreneur.com.
	It was lovely to see Sergeant Fred again.
	We saw it at the meetup last time.
	We were in Austin about a year ago.
	Did you post any pictures of the meetup?
	This one, it was dark.
	We were outside, you know, drinking.
	Anyway, this is for Sergeant Fred, everybody.
	Think along, we give him some super karma.
	You've got karma.
	And in fact, I'm going to give him a little jingle as well.
	If you wake up with the blues, shine up through your day with news.
	There's one thing you must remember, no agenda in the morning.
	For a healthy, balanced news diet, try NoAgendaShow.com.
	Do-do-do.
	Dvorak.org slash N-A It's your birthday, birthday!
	Hey!
	On no agenda!
	And we say happy birthday to Mark Pipkin's human resource, Kai, turning 11th on Wednesday.
	That would be Independence Day.
	Black Knight, George Vanderhorst congratulates his son Joshua.
	And everybody, a big wave and shout out to Mr.
	Oil.
	He says he's turning 31.
	It's probably a lie, but we're very happy to congratulate him on his birthday today.
	Happy birthday from all your buddies here at the No Agenda Show.
	Happy birthday!
	And, uh, we have two, uh, no three knightings today, John.
	Three.
	Count them.
	One, two.
	Blade.
	Very good.
	Ah, Todd Cochran, Anonymous, and Jason Morella.
	Please step forward.
	All of you have contributed to the No Agenda Show, the best podcast in the university of out of $1,000 or more, and we highly appreciate the support.
	It's the only way we keep the show going.
	Without you, we would be nowhere.
	So I hereby present and pronounce thee, Sir Todd, Sir Anonymous.
	And Sir Dago Jay, all of you, now Knights of the Noah General Roundtable, come on over, hookers and blow, red boys and chardonnay, hot pants and booze, and some nice breast milk.
	For you, and congratulations, and thank you so much.
	Where are you getting the breast milk?
	Oh, just...
	I don't know.
	We got some chocolate goat milk at the...
	At the market.
	That's funny.
	I got some raw goat milk the other day.
	But the chocolate goat milk is off the hook.
	I could see that.
	I could see that working.
	It was just fantastic.
	Really, really loved it.
	Hey, wow, John.
	We only had one donation from Perth, but I wanted to.
	This is the second half of the show.
	And people say, oh, there's no second half of the show stuff, man.
	Well...
	Because when there's no second half of the show stuff, I'm not just going to make crap up.
	You know, I got legislation to read.
	So, a couple days ago, what people are claiming was a meteorite crashed into the ocean right off of Perth.
	And you can Google this.
	You have to see it.
	Our producer Aaron says, you know, what's weird about this...
	Is that it left a, like a vapor trail.
	First of all, it caused a sonic boom.
	So everyone heard it, you know, like in a thousand mile range.
	But it left a vapor trail that has been hanging around for 24 hours.
	Is this different than the, see on February 5th there was a bolide meteor fireball.
	This one just happened like in the last 48 hours.
	Huh.
	There's also a big one, a big Perth meteorite on November 10th, 2011.
	Yep.
	And there was another monster on December 22nd, 2000.
	Apparently, Perth gets a lot of these.
	And it's all offshore, but get this.
	Here it is.
	Meteor plunges in the ocean, lighting up Perth's sky.
	But look at the vapor trail, which, you know, not a cloud.
	Yeah, but that thing's been hanging there for like 24 hours.
	Maybe there's no wind.
	And look at the inversion layer right there.
	That is a classic.
	I'm looking at the picture.
	That's a classic inversion layer where there's no movement.
	This does not surprise me.
	This is not a non-starter.
	Camden trails from space.
	But he does say that ships, aircraft, etc.
	are not allowed anywhere in the area, which I find a little unnecessary.
	Although, I guess if you can go dig up some meteorite, that could be worth a fine penny.
	If it's a big one, it's worth millions.
	But here is the crazy one.
	Have you heard about the Stargate?
	Yeah.
	I heard about it.
	Yes, I did.
	And I was wondering if you were going to go with the story.
	Yes.
	Well, I've been watching.
	I've been following the story for a while.
	This is an unidentified, submerged object, which has...
	Let's see.
	I've got the information.
	Where was this found again?
	In the Baltic Sea?
	In the Baltic Sea.
	Exactly.
	And what's weird about this, this is the new news that has come out.
	We've seen this thing on, you know, we've seen pictures of it.
	Navy ships surround UFO Stargate in the Gulf of Aden in June 9, 2011.
	It moved, Abe.
	Somebody moved it.
	Yeah, so they moved it over to the Baltic Sea.
	And they have the Explorer X team out there trying to figure out what it is.
	And here's a piece of a report, which I think is from a Russian news report.
	In English, interestingly, about the weirdness surrounding this general area when the divers are trying to figure out what's going on here.
	We looked at our dive computer and it said minus one degree.
	That's pretty cold for a dive and it should really be impossible to have that cold water because it actually turns into ice at zero degrees.
	But that could be explained by the movement of the water.
	Also, some strange phenomenon occurred.
	A main objective of the die was to film the object, and yet the camera stopped working when they approached the object.
	Why isn't anything working, anything electrical?
	And the satellites we have as well stopped working when we were above the object.
	And when we got away for about 200 meters, it turned on again.
	And when we got back over the object, it didn't work.
	There's your proof.
	It's got some kind of electromagnetic field or something.
	The minute you're within 200 meter range above the object, video cameras don't work, the sat phones go out, you travel outside that 200 meter range.
	How convenient!
	I think there's something going on.
	We've got these things crashing.
	It could be the same thing, this crashing into the ocean there in Perth.
	Because it looks kind of like a spaceship.
	So this all stems from some company called Transception Incorporated that began its public relations campaign.
	Apparently it shows up on the PR Newswire from Austin, Texas.
	No coincidence.
	Dated April 6th, 2012.
	The technology transfer company submitted to NASA Administrator Charles Bolden a formal letter of recommendation to 14 CFR section 1221.2 that the crew of Apollo 11 be nominated for the Congressional Space Medal of Honor on the grounds that they had actually made contact with the remains of an ancient shipwreck while on the lunar surface.
	It's made available for public displays.
	11 hours of video showing five professional and two trainee-controlled remote views describing the unidentified submerged object image resting on the bottom of the Baltic Sea by the Swedish crew of the Ocean Explorer using its side-scanning sonar last June.
	I'm so happy you read all of that extremely cynical, bullcrap voice of yours while you were helium.
	Yeah.
	It'll make for a great opener of the show.
	Call me back.
	We got him, didn't we?
	So apparently John can now not even load a video, I mean a picture, on his home build Windows 95 computer.
	And she says, he's really starting to concern me a bit.
	Is he calling me or does he not understand that maybe he's still talking and doesn't even know we've disconnected.
	You there?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Worked this time.
	Yeah, you were.
	It was so funny.
	You're like that mocking voice you do when you think that I'm crazy.
	I wasn't doing a mocking voice.
	No.
	I never do a mocking voice.
	Lovely.
	Do I do a mocking voice?
	Yeah, yeah.
	You mock it when I question the universe and say, hey, wait a minute.
	You know, there's something going on here.
	I don't mean to be mocking.
	I'm remiss.
	I love you.
	Hey, by the way...
	Go back to this thing.
	So the question is, how could the Swedes get movies and pictures and get all this stuff and shots of the thing, and then now, all of a sudden, you can't get a shot off.
	Come on.
	There's a suggestion here from the chat room.
	Maybe you should pay your AOL bill.
	We have a problem with Skype.
	Oh, the chat room is so funny.
	Hey!
	Oh, come on, man.
	I love you.
	You know that.
	Everybody loves you.
	Man, I love you, man.
	Hey, Paraguay, nice little job, little hit job there, huh?
	Yeah.
	So this is where all the, if you're looking for the Kenneth Lay, the guy who died of a heart attack, if you want to see where the bushes are hanging out, go to Paraguay.
	I guess it wasn't good, and I guess they need to get rid of that president, Fernando Lugo.
	Well, he was getting sick of these expats moving in and taking over the place.
	Yeah, and they just took him out, didn't they?
	They just impeached him on some incredibly stupid things.
	It was like, go on, here's the impeachment.
	I wish we could have this in America, by the way.
	He was impeached because...
	It was really funny.
	Where was it?
	It was like something in 2009.
	Ah, crap.
	I had it listed and I can't find it.
	I feel like a douche.
	Yeah, four charges.
	He improperly allowed leftist parties to hold a political meeting in an army base in 2009.
	He allowed 3,000 squatters to illegally invade a large Brazilian-owned soybean farm.
	It's just camping.
	And his government failed to capture members of a leftist guerrilla group, the Paraguayan People's Army, and he signed an international protocol without properly submitting it to Congress for approval.
	Jeez!
	I mean, we'd have no president if we had those rules.
	Yeah, that's for sure.
	So that brings me to Fast and Furious and Eric Holder.
	So, of course, our Attorney General here in the United States was held in contempt of Congress, which we knew would mean nothing.
	In fact, the Justice Department has said, well, we're not going to prosecute him.
	Oh, okay.
	So, I guess that's it.
	But what was weird, and we have been predicting this to happen, was that the Black Caucus of the Democrats, and this is very specific here, the Black Caucus...
	Walked out of this vote.
	And for those of you who don't know, our Attorney General, Eric Holder, is black.
	He's more brown, but he's an African American.
	Not that I don't think anyone gives a crap.
	And then these guys come out on the step.
	Well, yeah, here's the little...
	This is from CNN, and what came after it was what blew me away.
	But listen to this.
	This is Cleaver, by the way.
	...that at least...
	A group of members of Congress We did not
	want to participate.
	And something that we believe has some kind of smell to it.
	Okay, so he says it has some kind of smell to it.
	Smale.
	Smale to it.
	And not just the Black Caucus, but a lot of the Democrats are saying this is political, it has a smell to it.
	And Wolf Blitzer smelled something else.
	You heard Congressman Emanuel Cleaver say, and he was, I think, using some signals, some code language, if you will, that this has some kind of smell to it.
	And I know what a lot of members of the African-American community have been implying, have been suggesting, given the fact that the Attorney General of the United States, Eric Holder, is himself African-American.
	But how do you interpret what Emanuel Cleaver has just said?
	Is this guy an asshole or what?
	Both.
	He's an asshole and or what?
	I mean, that's incredible.
	He immediately says, well, this is clearly, you know, they smell racism.
	Racism.
	Blitzer.
	This is...
	He is inciting racism.
	Yeah, well, we know that this has been going on.
	But it's not even implied.
	It's pretty lame, though.
	And, you know, half the public doesn't even know that this has gone on, this Eric Holder situation.
	The guy wouldn't cough up the documents.
	He basically told Congress to screw itself.
	They deserved to put him in contempt.
	He was in contempt.
	Well, what's funny is that ISA has submitted to the congressional record Pretty much the document that Holder is not producing.
	The affidavit describes the most controversial tactic of all abandoning surveillance of known straw purchasers, resulting in the failure to interdict arms.
	This is a letter that he put in the congressional record, and on pages 4409 through 4411, he actually has the wiretap that shows that Holder knew about all this before he said he knew about it, which shows that he was lying.
	And all of this is, you know, it's very much like Watergate in some ways.
	You know, it's being called Obama's Watergate.
	Yeah, it's a cover-up and it's a perjury.
	It's got all these things.
	And then these black Congress guys, they don't keep...
	If it was Hitler, and he was black, good to go.
	Good to go.
	Yeah.
	You know what I'm waiting for?
	Put this in the Red Book, will you?
	Red Book out.
	Open page.
	Get the stamp.
	Get the date stamp.
	I'm just waiting for, probably McCain, by the way, to say that the Colorado wildfires were started by Al-Qaeda.
	I'm surprised.
	I think they're sitting on that.
	I agree.
	I mean, we've gotten to one.
	The only thing that's come out is the Colorado wildfires are because of global warming.
	Yeah.
	I've heard that.
	Of course.
	I think they're sitting on that.
	I think they're one step away from doing that if they need to.
	Yeah.
	I'm not going to argue that because it's very...
	And now because I heard a report, oh, there's 100 of them took place simultaneously.
	It doesn't make any sense.
	Mm-hmm.
	And, of course, we know Al-Qaeda's out to get Colorado.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Colorado, big giant international threat, that state of Colorado, all those trees.
	Yeah, yeah.
	You get hit with a club.
	Well, we really hope that someone will come through with a trailer for us.
	We're just looking for...
	It could be a 20-footer.
	I mean, it doesn't have to be huge.
	Just something with a little kitchen with a twin-size bed.
	We'll fit into it somehow.
	And a bathroom.
	We don't need to shower or anything.
	Just your basic gray and black water facilities.
	We'd love to borrow that.
	We'd love to borrow it starting somewhere in the state of Texas.
	That'll be easier for us.
	And we will definitely be going to Colorado Springs.
	I mean, as long as it's not burning.
	Yeah, it'll be done by then.
	Yeah, we'll be visiting everybody.
	Well, let's talk about the fact that you are going to, what we're thinking about, doing two, not reruns, but we're...
	Let me set this up.
	Let me set this up.
	So we're leaving on Monday, July 9th.
	And we are returning on, I think it's Wednesday, would that be the 18th?
	Let me take a look.
	Let me take a look at the calendar.
	Yeah.
	Okay, July 9th, which is next Monday.
	So you can still do the Sunday show.
	Yes, Sunday show.
	Do the Sunday show.
	Which, by the way, the 8th is Ms.
	Mickey's birthday, but she insists I do the show.
	Okay, we'll wish her a birthday birthday.
	Yeah, exactly.
	Yeah, and then we return on the 18th, right?
	So on the 13th, we have the party that's throwing for us at Supper Club, which is Friday.
	So you don't want to work on the 12th and the 15th.
	Right, because Monday is when we have the actual ceremony.
	Right, so you can take the 12th and 15th off if we can fill, but we have to put something up.
	Well, hold on.
	Let me just go back.
	It's really started because donations are down during the summer.
	Yeah, and they're down today, big time.
	So it doesn't really matter if we do a show because apparently not enough people are listening to really make the value for value.
	The television networks have known this forever.
	Yeah, yeah.
	We haven't discovered anything.
	Well, no, but it sucks.
	But we can put up two good shows, and this is what my thinking is.
	We have somebody who did a clip show.
	I haven't heard it yet, but what do you think of it?
	Well, he did a pipeline clip show, and he did a compilation of episodes 381, 82, and 83, and I think even 84.
	It's like a two-hour show.
	Yeah.
	I want you to listen to it.
	I thought it was pretty good.
	It needs a different intro, obviously.
	Yeah, we re-intro it.
	Okay, well let me listen to that.
	Now the other thing I wanted to do, which is the more complicated one, is show 200.5, which was never actually released for normal.
	It was done for the Deuce Club.
	People contributed $200 to commemorate show 200.
	And it was show 200.5, which kind of explains our model of a show.
	I was thinking that we would run that show again with commentary as to what changed.
	So in other words, we'd have a new, fresh show.
	In other words, we'd run the show and then talk about the show after the show is over.
	Because it's not a long show.
	It's an hour and something.
	So we rerun 205, which was a hidden show.
	Yes.
	So now it'll be made available to everybody, which is where we deconstructed the show.
	And then we'll make...
	What, like 20, 30 minutes?
	We'll talk about how things have changed?
	Right, what have changed.
	We'll go over and take notes on the show, and then we'll say, well, here's what's different, and here's some other things we learned.
	Well, what's different?
	Well, actually, there's a lot different when you listen to it.
	We still suck.
	Yeah.
	Well, here's the other thing I was thinking, because I knew you'd say that.
	One of the elements of that show that I think is interesting that we forgot all about, and we should have probably done it on show 300.5, is we took questions from the audience specific to...
	You know, personal questions.
	Oh, right, right, right, right.
	Yes, we did.
	We asked for a bunch of questions, and we had a bunch of questions, and you would read the question, and we'd try to explain.
	Why do you guys use the...
	How do you do that?
	What kind of soundboard do you have?
	What kind of mic do you use?
	I mean, these kinds of things that we're not normally going to talk about on a regular show.
	And I think if we open up, we've got plenty of time.
	We've got a week.
	Over a week, actually.
	To open it up for...
	Open up questions.
	We can have a...
	Like, you can email myself or Adam.
	No, no, no, no, no.
	Email it to ringsatnoahgeneration.com.
	Don't do that.
	We'll never get the questions.
	Yeah.
	By the way, it's always fun because some people email you, some people will email me.
	That way we get different questions and that way we don't know what questions we have.
	It'll still be kind of like a random show like we always do because I think most people know at this point we never talk to each other except on the program.
	Now, the key to this for everyone out there listening, you can send an email to adam at curry.com or john at dvorak.org.
	And the key, so it doesn't kill us, in the subject line, show question in caps, if you can remember caps, but show question or show questions.
	Why does it have to be in caps?
	Is that so you can see it?
	I want to make it as easy as possible.
	It doesn't have to be in caps.
	Forget it.
	Put show questions.
	I'll do a search.
	With an asterisk.
	No, don't put anything.
	Just put show question.
	Hashtag.
	Don't put hashtag.
	Number sign.
	Show question in the subject line and then we can...
	Consolidate the questions.
	No, no, no.
	We're not going to consolidate the questions.
	We'll consolidate them on the show in real time.
	Yeah, there you go.
	And so we'll answer some more questions because people do have questions and it's very entertaining.
	So we'll do the show 200.5 plus the kind of a summary of what's changed and then we'll cut show 200.5 down.
	We'll take out some of the stuff that's, you know, we had a long laundry list of people who donated the show 200.
	I think, and by the way...
	Academic.
	Don't ask what operating system John is running that makes his Skype so crappy.
	That question is Bane.
	So anyway, so we'll do that, and then that'll cover us on, probably run the clip show on Tuesday.
	No, no.
	And then finish up with the 200.6, we'll call it.
	Right.
	A show on Sunday, and then we'll be good to go the next week.
	Well, and then I return on Wednesday, and then, you know, jet-lagged or not, you know, I'll be banging away on Thursday.
	Right.
	Yeah, and you'll have collected a lot of material from being in Europe.
	Oh yeah, I'll have tons of stuff.
	I mean, the work doesn't stop.
	It's just, I will say that this is a big deal for us.
	It's second rodeo.
	It's all friends and family over there.
	And, of course, there's a whole press element that makes it annoying.
	So it's stressful.
	The times are off.
	Because I'd have to start the show at 6 p.m.
	Oh, yeah.
	No, it's impossible.
	I mean, it's doable once.
	When I was over there, I did a show from Holland.
	And you can do it.
	It's not like it's impossible.
	But not in the middle of a wedding situation.
	And it's summer.
	Yeah.
	So it doesn't hurt that much.
	Do you think we'll lose audience?
	I think we'll lose some audience if we interrupt.
	I mean, that's what I'm concerned about.
	I know we'll lose donations.
	Oh, that's why I wanted to do these fillers.
	Yeah, but people aren't going to give us donations for fillers.
	Well, they might.
	I mean, they gave us donations for the clip show.
	That was like a sympathy fuck.
	That was...
	No, we'll get donations.
	I think the donations will pretty much be like they are today.
	Okay, well in that case then, let's rock and roll.
	Yeah, so we'll put a donation segment in.
	But it's not that we're not doing any work.
	No, we're doing it.
	We'll have to do a re-intro on the clip show and then we'll have to edit to 200.5 and then we'll crank something out.
	It'll be entertaining as ever.
	Well, I'll tell you one thing.
	Miss Mickey is very happy if we do this.
	Yeah, I think we should do this.
	I've always been a fan of some down time once in a while, but we do keep the show going, but in the same way that, you know, the Simpsons do clip shows where they create a show.
	Yeah, but the Simpsons is like a talented show.
	Well, yeah, but if they can do it, we can do it.
	That's the way I see it.
	Oh, by the way...
	Before I forget.
	Show questions.
	Show.
	With the first word, show.
	Hashtag, number, sign, pound, asterisk, show questions, all uppercase.
	You know, Todd Cochran, who became a knight today, he also runs the podcast awards.
	And he said, you know, next year or this year or whenever it is, he said, I'm going to make that a category.
	And I said, no, no, you can't make that a category because we'll lose and someone else will be the best podcast in the universe.
	And he said, no, no, I'm going to do a category, best podcast in the universe with only one podcast you can vote on.
	How cool would that be?
	It'd be very cool.
	Best podcast.
	You can vote.
	What's the best podcast in the universe?
	Well, there's only one box.
	We're the only ones that claim to be.
	I haven't heard anybody else claim to be the best podcast in the universe.
	We have the URL, bestpodcastinuniverse.com.
	Yeah, we got the URL. We got the whole thing.
	It's covered.
	We got the brand, baby.
	We got the brand.
	Hey, I'm real sorry there for all of our slaves in Gitmo Nation East.
	This is crazy.
	So we've been following this legislation.
	The government, of course, wants to stop porn and will somebody please think of the children.
	And now as part of the Home Office's communications data bill, here's what they're proposing.
	They're proposing that when you use Gmail, I'm going to read this directly.
	When an individual uses a webmail service such as Gmail, the entire webpage is encrypted before it's sent.
	This makes it impossible for ISPs to distinguish the content of the message because they want to get not the content, but they want to get the headers of the message.
	Under the proposal, once the Gmail is sent, the ISP has to route the data via a government-approved black box, which will decrypt the message, separate the content from the header data, and pass the latter back to the ISP for storage so you can then read it.
	Are these people insane?
	Wow!
	That's insane.
	Why don't they just put the black box in your house with a camera on it pointing at you at all times?
	Yeah.
	Well, they have that kind of, I guess.
	Well, that reminds me of the situation that took place in England with this Paul Chambers character.
	I have a couple clips.
	Paul Chambers, apparently, was trying to get out of England and it was like he couldn't.
	Who is this guy?
	Who is this guy?
	He's just some poor schmuck.
	I mean, this story has not been played much.
	Why does he want to get out of England if he's just a schmuck?
	He was going to go meet with some girl because they arrested him for twittering.
	Well, play Paul Chambers and you'll get the story.
	And try.
	Well, a British man's been convicted for sending a joke tweet about blowing up an airport.
	Oh, right.
	He's having his appeal heard again now, and the case of Paul Chambers has attracted widespread condemnation among civil liberties campaigners to fear its impact on freedom of speech.
	Lawrence Lee explains.
	This is the story of someone who uses Twitter and who had fallen in love with somebody in another country.
	He found out his local airport was snowed in.
	His visit to the special person was in doubt.
	In a moment of foolishness, he committed his thoughts to the web and wrote this.
	Crap!
	Robin Hood Airport is closed.
	You've got a week and a bit.
	Otherwise I'm blowing the airport sky high.
	His name is Paul Chambers.
	One tweet, one bad joke, led to him being arrested, prosecuted for making a menacing comment, criminalised, sacked from his job.
	It is self-evident that this was a joke.
	It was taken as a joke.
	The police said it was a joke.
	The airport said it represented no threat whatsoever.
	But Paul Chambers still ended up being prosecuted and convicted.
	In Britain, the Chamber's case has become a landmark over freedom of expression and whether the law understands the Internet.
	Wow.
	Yeah, so this is what's going to be wrong with these autonomous drones.
	You're going to send some stupid tweet that's going to locate it through your IMEI on your phone and then, you know, before you know it, you've got an incoming Hellfire missile.
	Preview.
	That's what you're going to get.
	Preview.
	Yeah.
	It's terrible.
	Some douchebag prosecutor says, well, the law is the law.
	You know these guys.
	They're soulless drones themselves.
	They don't say, this is bull crap.
	Don't do it again.
	Nobody ever thinks of actually policing the way it used to be done.
	Hey, buddy, don't do that again.
	That's done.
	It's a done deal.
	The guy won't do it again.
	That's the way to do it, yeah.
	But no, let's go through the process of wasting the taxpayers' money and imprisoning the guy.
	What?
	Ruining his life, essentially.
	He got fired?
	Yeah.
	Wow.
	Yeah, because he wasn't, I don't know, wasn't thinking, I guess.
	Even if he was thinking, it was a tweet.
	Yeah.
	He just irked.
	Well, Twitter's going down, man.
	Well, Twitter's got issues.
	I know that.
	I mean, in terms of the...
	I think I may have mentioned this on the show before.
	I'm following the whole API discussion.
	That's the big thing now.
	Well, what's going on?
	What do you think?
	Well, and this is going to happen with Facebook and all these things.
	Yeah, I mean, you know, they canceled their contract with LinkedIn because basically the only way that you can use Twitter is if you use the Twitter app or the Twitter website.
	They're cutting off all the external developers.
	And you lose your developers, and then all your favorite clients are not going to work, etc.
	There's going to be negativity.
	That stuff always spins.
	Social networks, people don't give a crap.
	Whatever is used tomorrow, they'll use that.
	Wow, wouldn't it be interesting if all the people who make Twitter clients who are now being shunned by Twitter decided to, I don't know, use RSS instead, which is pretty much the same thing.
	You know, we just need to have subscription things built into the client, and you're done.
	Well, I know that there are some issues with Twitter.
	I mean, besides the basic corruption of people who have millions of followers that don't have millions of followers, and you can buy followers, and there's all these other issues.
	All I know is when Twitter began, and I was one of the top 20 Twitterers with like 10,000 followers.
	You have like 80,000 now.
	Yeah, I know, but I never got put on one of their lists that would have pumped me up to a million.
	It's just bogus.
	I'm not even verified.
	I'm not even verified.
	I tried to get verified and they won't verify me because they don't care.
	I'm verified insane.
	This is the story.
	I had 10,000 followers.
	If I had mentioned something to these 10,000 people and I tracked it because I always use Bitly or something that tracks...
	And you want to use something to shrink your, because now they shrink them automatically, but you used to have to shrink the URL, or they'd count as characters.
	So I'd say, hey, you ought to go see this website.
	It's really cool.
	And I'd put the website there, and then I'd track it, and I'd have, out of 10,000 followers, I'd get 3,000 click-throughs.
	And I actually wrote a column about this, about how direct mail, when you start really adding things up, it was very similar to the direct mail numbers.
	But that's huge.
	That's a huge amount.
	That was a huge amount.
	That was ridiculous.
	But that's what it was, and it was consistent.
	With 80,000, which is eight times more people, supposedly...
	You get a fraction.
	I get probably, at the most, 300.
	Yeah.
	Well, it's funny because whenever I tweet...
	So eight times more gives me one-tenth.
	It doesn't make any sense.
	So I always look at my server when I tweet out the link to the show.
	The minute the tweet is sent, before it even shows up in my timeline, I get 300 hits.
	Because that's all the bots.
	That's just bots.
	Oh, a link, click, a link, click, a link, click.
	And a lot of all these millions and millions of Facebook and Twitter users, they're all government PR companies with false personas.
	That's a lot of that.
	That's a lot of what's out there.
	That's a lot of those users.
	I mean, the like thing on Facebook is such a scam.
	It's ludicrous.
	Yeah.
	And I don't know what it accomplishes.
	I don't care if somebody likes something.
	I'm like, oh, I'm going to buy it because it's got 500 likes.
	Well, I understand the mechanism.
	I understand it.
	Well, I understand it, but it doesn't affect me.
	No, it doesn't affect me.
	I don't care.
	No, I don't care either, but it makes the sad individuals who really use this all the time, you know, gives them an out, you know, so I'm too tired to say that was a cool picture of your food, but I'll just like it.
	That's all that that is.
	You know, all these things.
	Twitter, you know, if news happens, I go to Twitter to see what's going on.
	That's the value of Twitter.
	If something's going on, like power outage, you know, you can find it.
	Yeah, you can.
	That's really cool.
	Facebook, not so.
	It's just, you know, it's just people making themselves feel relevant to the consumerist society.
	Oh, look at my bag.
	It has a logo.
	It has a logo on it.
	Anyway, so Twitter's making mistakes.
	And it's easy.
	It's easy.
	People are fickle.
	People are really fickle, especially on these networks.
	You do one thing and everyone bails out.
	But especially if there's something else that you can jump to.
	Yeah.
	I've been working on something.
	What?
	What?
	On a something.
	All right.
	Well, we'll find out eventually.
	With one of our producers, Dave Jones.
	Yeah?
	And we've been building a something that will put out open source.
	And when we're ready, then I'm sure if we put this out to Mr.
	Oil and Gitmo Slave and all those guys will immediately put it in 5,000 data centers.
	Everyone can have an account.
	But it will be decentralized.
	And it'll basically be this.
	So we're working on something.
	No money in it, by the way.
	I'll look forward to it.
	Yeah, I know you will, because you'll use it.
	You'll be like, oh, this is cool.
	And there'll be no company, no central service.
	It'll just kind of work.
	At least that's the idea.
	Yeah, well, it'll get co-opted.
	They all do.
	So maybe let's catch up with Australia, their second biggest donors.
	I guess they put their carbon tax in play.
	Yeah, well, we knew that, yeah.
	Yeah, well, this is a complete rip-off, and I have two clips.
	One is just a discussion of what they've done, and they're going to charge everybody money for just a tax.
	Hold on a second.
	I've got to mention Void Zero.
	He's another one of the guys that runs the servers.
	You know, if I forget that, then, you know, he's a sysadman.
	They get all pissed off and huffy.
	Oh, yeah, no, they get very sensitive.
	You're awesome, Void Zero.
	You rock.
	Okay, sorry.
	Back to Australia.
	Let's just play this introductory clip.
	Then I want to play a douchebag who's commenting on it, and I don't even know why they ran this guy.
	Think of pollution and this is what might spring to mind.
	But Australia's carbon tax will be felt right across its economy.
	Because although fewer than 300 creators of carbon dioxide will pay the tax directly, the effects will be felt by their customers and by their customers' customers too.
	The government wants its impact to filter down, nudging producers to make goods in a greener way, nudging people towards buying greener products.
	But it's controversial.
	Opposition politicians call it a great big tax on everything.
	It's certainly ambitious.
	Although the price will eventually float, for three years it's fixed at $23 a tonne, more than...
	Whoa!
	That's exactly what the IMF, uh, what Christine Lagarde predicted, remember?
	Yep.
	Wow!
	...double the current price faced by producers in the EU. Predictably, mining companies are queued up to condemn it, while producers of clean energy, like the company producing this tidal energy equipment in Perth, stand to benefit.
	My goodness, so the IMF runs the show!
	Apparently.
	Wow!
	By the way, I'm going to just ask you, I don't want to make it ask Adam, but what do they do with this money?
	Oh, well, they give it to other countries.
	So here's our economic hitman.
	We're going to give this to, I don't know, pick a country, the Congo.
	But they don't actually give it to the Congo.
	They give it to American companies that go do the work in the Congo.
	It's an economic hitman scheme.
	Okay, so now this douchebag comes on to make comment.
	The effect on most Australian businesses, though, will be more subtle.
	This online shoe retailer will face higher energy costs at their Sydney headquarters, but they manufacture in China, unaffected by Australia's tax.
	Carbon tax is going to have a very small impact on our business, and if it encourages other economies and governments around the world to introduce a similar carbon tax, that's going to have a positive effect on reducing global warming around the world, and it's going to have a really positive impact.
	Businessman, small impact.
	Citizen, big impact.
	I think it's great.
	Hey, citizen!
	Small impact!
	So this douchebag, in other words, since he's having everything made in China, it's not going to affect him hardly.
	And so, as far as he's concerned, that's great because everyone else is going to have to pay a lot and it's going to reduce global warming and there's nothing better than that.
	I mean, there's just this guy who's just oblivious to the abhorrent Ridiculous tax that the Aussies are having to pick up now, and he makes an excuse for it.
	I couldn't believe it.
	Anyway, I was just a personal douchebag guy.
	Well, let me give him a little, uh...
	Hey, what happened?
	Whoa, whoa, whoa!
	Douchebag!
	There we go.
	That feels better.
	Whew!
	It's like a...
	Hey, so Minitel's dead.
	Yeah, yeah, I read that.
	We've talked about Minitel on the show in the past.
	Rarely, but play the Minitel clip and then we'll talk about it a little bit.
	France is scrapping its once groundbreaking Minitel service, complete with mushroom-colored boxes that blazed a trail for the World Wide Web.
	Launched in 1982, this homegrown precursor of the Internet brought online banking, travel reservations, and even sex chats to millions.
	I do think that with the Minitel we invented a lot of today's technology.
	The fact that a terminal could access a service at the other end of the world.
	I mean the internet and all online networks.
	There is still an estimated 670,000 terminals in circulation.
	In the late 1990s, France had 25 million users.
	But creator France Telecom was unable to sell the clunky system overseas.
	And with the rapid growth of the Internet making Minitel obsolete, the plug will be pulled this weekend, once and for all.
	So two things here.
	I'm very familiar with the Minitel system.
	One, it was primarily used for getting the weather and for booking hookers.
	Well, hold on a second.
	It was put into place, they never mentioned this, by the phone company to prevent them from having to produce phone books.
	It was a phone directory, online phone directory, and so they didn't have to print phone books anymore.
	That was the reason it started.
	It evolved.
	Into hookers.
	Yes.
	In fact, it got so hooker-ish that if you went and even as soon as you turned on your terminal, you got solicited by a dozen girls.
	And I would love, by the way, and I know you would as well, John, I would love to have a Minitel terminal just for my personal collection.
	Yeah, I'd love to have a Minitel.
	Yeah, I hope they don't destroy them all.
	They should auction them off.
	There were several systems out there.
	The Netherlands had...
	They had...
	Well, they have the teletext system.
	What was the other one?
	Video text.
	Where you connected a little box to your...
	They had an upstream through the phone line.
	It went on the television set, though, didn't it?
	Yeah, it received...
	Text.
	Yeah, it received the text, but it was individual to your set.
	So teletext is just, you know, everyone gets the same thing, and it's a page, and that's still used.
	People use that a lot.
	A lot.
	But the video text...
	You could actually talk back to the system and it would address your television specifically.
	And they were selling televisions.
	And this is just to prove that the whole idea of a web TV, it's not really going to work.
	It took, I think, 20 years for them to finally start selling sets that had this built-in.
	Not the teletext, but the videotext.
	And it died off.
	People stopped using it.
	It never really became hugely successful, the video tech's part of it.
	And I always have to laugh when I hear that, you know, Apple TV is going to be great.
	No, it's not.
	Roku is the only one.
	By the way, I watched this two-hour C-SPAN thing about television and video online, and they're talking about the regulations.
	And there was a guy from Roku there.
	Of course, all the cable guys were represented.
	And...
	Our government is such a bunch of douchebags.
	All they can talk about is consumption, consumption, consumers, consumption, consumers, consumption, consumers, consumers, consumption.
	Not once, nor, of course, was there any representation of people who want to send something up through the Internet.
	It's all about this great programming.
	Yes, everyone has to have all this great programming.
	It's going to be great.
	The consumers can consume great video.
	They totally don't understand.
	Well, maybe they do, but they're not...
	They're making regulations all for the downstream, nothing for the upstream.
	And by the way, this is not about net neutrality.
	That's a bullcrap trap.
	It's abhorrent.
	Not a single person, even the Roku guy was disappointing.
	You know?
	Because, you know, if you want to put video online, well, then you have to come to one of the six guys that'll be left over and they'll put it up for you.
	Bull crap.
	Get off Gmail.
	Get off Google.
	Stop using Google.
	Just stop it.
	Stop it.
	Unless you want autonomous drones.
	Guardian Angel.
	Just stop it, please.
	Please, I beg of you.
	Alright.
	I think that's about all I've got.
	I'm empty.
	Oh, I do have one beautiful thing for you.
	Just go to poppies.curry.com.
	Here we go again.
	What do you mean, here we go again?
	You and your...
	Yeah, well, it's handy.
	It's handy.
	I don't have to send you a link.
	I just say poppies.curry.com.
	Subdomains.
	Just go poppies.curry.com.
	These are June 2012 photos of our troops patrolling the poppy fields.
	Oh, yeah.
	Look at these.
	This is interesting because the poppies...
	They're beautiful.
	There's two kinds of opium poppies.
	One's with a red flower and one...
	Ooh, there's a pink flower one that is variegated.
	Oh, that's gorgeous!
	Aren't they beautiful?
	Yeah, the red flower ones are the ones you see occasionally in the United States growing.
	Yeah, the red ones are nice, they're pretty.
	But these variegated pink ones are really nice.
	It's a very decorative...
	I love the farmer.
	See the picture of the farmer yet?
	No, I'm still going down.
	I like the big old bulbs.
	The farmer's like, hey, this is awesome.
	I got these dudes protecting my crop.
	Oh yeah, look at that look on his face.
	Is this great or what?
	He knows.
	He knows.
	And they're protecting them.
	They're not burning them.
	They're not eradicating them.
	No, they're protecting them.
	Proof right there.
	And that farmer is priceless.
	For our banks.
	That farmer is like, how awesome is this dude?
	By the way, I love his outfit.
	That's a look, man.
	Yeah, well, that guy, he's definitely, well, he's in the money.
	Yeah.
	That's a good look.
	I kind of like it.
	Yeah, you'd look good that way.
	I would, with a beard and everything.
	Allah Akbar!
	All right, everybody, Allah Akbar to you.
	Hold on a second before we finish.
	There's one picture, the last one.
	What is that thing on this guy's back?
	Is it like a lightning rod or something?
	What is that?
	Huh.
	Huh.
	It's like a lightning rod.
	It looks more like a witch's broom that someone flew on too much.
	Or maybe it's like a transmitter.
	Is that the latest in U.S. government antenna technology?
	I don't know.
	It just looks weird.
	And the photo just above that, the guy's got this long antenna sticking out the back.
	It looks like it's sticking out his butt.
	Yeah, I mean, that's...
	He's actually making a call.
	Hey, Mom.
	Hey, Mom, I'm in the middle of this poppy field.
	This is a great...
	You send people to this when they say you're full of crap about the fact that we're the one...
	This whole thing's about poppies.
	That's why I made it a subdomain.
	Thank you very much.
	poppies.curry.com And you're going to keep loading it with photos?
	No, this is not me.
	This is, I don't know.
	Oh, you just bent forward to public intelligence.
	Yes, exactly.
	That's what I do, baby.
	That's what I do.
	So we are still on the lookout for a trailer for the 2009 Hot Pockets Tour.
	We have the NOAA General Producer Update coming up on the stream, which is with Ms.
	Mickey on the show today.
	She'll be giving an update with the folks there.
	I guess it's Mr.
	Oil, Gitmo Slave.
	I might just throw in Void Zero.
	I don't want to get caught with my pants down.
	And Italy!
	Italy for the win!
	John?
	Spain again.
	Spain again.
	Italy for the win.
	We shall see what happens in Euro 2012.
	And we appreciate all of you checking in and supporting us with our value-for-value model.
	Dvorak.org slash NA. 423, an anagram.
	Coming up, that will be our next episode.
	and we'd appreciate it if you would support the work that we do.
	I'm going to start folding my tinfoil hat, my chaff hat.
	Chaff hat.
	Chaff hat.
	Coming to you from the capital of the drone star state, your guardian angel rules, Austin Tejas.
	In the morning, everybody.
	My name's Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley.
	And again, happy birthday, Canada.
	I'm John C. Dvorak.
	We'll talk to you again on Thursday, right here on No Agenda.
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