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June 24, 2012 - No Agenda
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420: The Data Hole
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What about me?
I want to work on a cool, unmanned plane too.
Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak.
It's Sunday, June 24th, 2012.
Time for your Gitmo Nation Media Assassination Episode 420.
This is No Agenda.
Wearing my Gucci burka here at Carmovo in the capital of the drone star state, Austin, Tejas.
In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
And from northern Silicon Valley, with nothing to say, I'm John C. Dvorak.
It's Craig Vaughn and Buzzkill.
In the morning.
Yeah, so what else is new?
Yeah, well, screw you.
Nothing to say.
So the Russians are going after us.
You don't say.
The propaganda machine is starting to crank up, and it's going to be fun to watch.
Oh, tell me.
Well, I mean, I've been watching Russia Today, and I ran into that woman, Abby Martin.
Yeah, that's the one.
That's the one that I said.
The one that has everything, but the package is wrong.
Yeah, the package is wrong because she's either a...
Well, to put it mildly, she's either like some sort of a, I don't know what type, maybe a Russian-style lesbian.
Now, let me just take this back to the last episode.
We were talking about, I couldn't remember her name, Abby Martin.
Yeah, Abby Martin.
As television producers, which John and I do in our off hours as part of the Curry-Dvorak Consulting Group, It's all wrong.
I mean, she's got beautiful long legs, but she's wearing pants.
You know, she's got kind of the funky accent, but she can't read the prompter.
She needs to bleach her hair.
I mean, that's how you get ratings.
Yeah, she's a brunette.
Yeah, it's wrong.
It's all wrong for television.
Well, I think she must be Russian or something.
I don't know.
I can't tell because that accent is funky.
As an expert on lesbians, you have now concluded she's a Russian lesbian?
Is this what you're saying?
Either that or a dominatrix.
Yeah, the dominatrix angle I'll go for.
Yeah, she has a certain kind of a dominatrix style.
I can't put my finger on it.
But it's not good for ratings.
I don't care.
It's not good for ratings.
No, it's not good for ratings.
It's like, I don't feel good watching her.
No, I don't.
I don't want to watch her.
Yeah.
But she is...
At least you're right.
She's better than anything else they've done.
It's a step forward, for sure.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And...
So she went after...
It's apparent that she gets her marching orders from Moscow.
Because she was doing piece after piece after piece in the most recent edition of the show.
And I'm going to start watching it routinely now.
Just blasting the U.S. It's not blasting the U.S. They're not blasting the Americans so you can still watch it.
Blasting specifically Obama.
Yeah, okay.
Well, that makes sense, because we saw Putin's body language.
He's like, what are you, son?
No, he does not like him at all.
So, one example of this, which I thought was semi-lame, but I could see it working, just needling Obama.
There's an Obama clip I have right at the beginning here.
You can play that, and that's her bringing up this topic of, huh, it just makes you go, wow, that's interesting.
It's Friday, June 22nd, 8 p.m.
in Washington, D.C. I'm Abby Martin, and you're watching RT. And stop right there.
Delivery, four minus.
You agree with me, right?
It's flat.
Yeah, thank you.
Wait a minute.
It's no more flat than a Dutch.
Okay.
It's Friday, June 22nd, 8 p.m.
in Washington, D.C. I'm Abby Martin, and you're watching RT. What has the first black president done for the black community in America?
Nothing, according to some.
Just recently, he's been catering to a number of minority communities in the U.S. First, it was the LGBT community.
At a certain point, I've just concluded that, for me personally, It is important for me to go ahead and affirm that I think same-sex couples should be able to get married.
Then it was the immigrant community.
This is a temporary stopgap measure that lets us focus our resources wisely while giving a degree of relief and hope to talented, driven, patriotic young people.
It is the right thing to do.
But what about African Americans?
He hasn't made moves to deal with African American inequalities in this country.
In an op-ed titled, Obama's Not the First Black President, He's the First President Who is Black, Wilmer Leone describes Obama as, quote, a functionary of a government in the service of wealth and empire.
Dr.
Wilmer Leone himself joined us earlier to talk about his article.
He is so bad.
It's so, I mean, yeah, I totally get what you're saying.
And by the way, I think it's kind of an egregious report.
It's just needling him.
And they brought this guy, a black guy from, I think Howard or something, she says.
Anyway, I didn't want to clip the whole thing, I'll just summarize.
The guy comes out and he makes the point that he is the first...
President that's black, but not a black president, which is a very interesting little turn of phrase.
And what he's referring to is that he has absolutely zero interest in the black community for all intents and purposes.
And the blacks, because they'll just vote for any Democrat, especially a black one, they need to get off their asses and start moaning about the fact that he's done zero.
He's done this for the gays, he's done it for this and that.
And he hasn't done anything for the black community at all, including dealing with the...
Overpopulation of prisons, mostly black.
Well, here's the question, then.
Here's the question.
So, you know, you start off by saying it's, you know, the Russians, the war is on, and, you know, so the propaganda starts.
To what end?
I think to get Romney elected.
Wow.
Well, that's more than needling, then.
That's kind of like harshing somebody's mellow.
It's a little more than just like chiding in.
Yeah, well, they did another piece.
I just wanted to run a piece of it.
I cut this kind of short, too.
But they also went after the TSA with this guy who's been...
The guy who...
This character who's floating around likes to smuggle knives on airplanes through the scanners.
Yeah.
And they...
And she goes after that, but it's done in such a way that there's a subtext to the messaging, which is that this is an incompetent agency, and apparently the president's not going to do anything about it.
He's a bonehead.
I mean, it's the subtext.
...that far, and also to put their hands in your pants.
Is this?
This is it?
Yeah, put your hands in your pants.
So this is what's official policy.
All travelers haven't necessarily received the same pat-down just because the TSA screeners hate doing it.
So a lot of times a TSA screener will take it a little easier.
So what about the people who don't want to be groped in their genitalia, but then they also don't want to be microwaved?
I mean, it's like if you opt out of the body scanner machines, then you're subject to being molested.
Hey, I take offense to that.
I like opting out.
I have to admit, I've never been molested.
That's bullcrap.
It's just not true.
I've opted out numerous times.
It's not.
The guys are just, you know, the guys are a little bit, they don't like doing it.
No, but you're not being molested.
It's just, you know.
No, this is my point.
This is part of the cranking it up.
You know, it's interesting you bring that up because Lucy Napolitano came out with a very interesting statement earlier this week.
And I've been trying to decipher it and decode it.
She's essentially saying that, yeah, high tech is great, but you really can't beat intelligence.
Good intelligence.
A lot of operations, a lot of safety operations can spring from that.
So we actually look at safety in the aviation environment as being multi-layered.
Layered.
Good intelligence.
Like my hair.
Good targeting.
Looking at Things like travel patterns.
Like you walk funny.
Things of that sort.
Looking at particular behavioral or other indicators when somebody actually gets to an airport.
Now listen to this part.
Looking at other kinds of indicia.
Indicia?
There's a new word.
There's a new word for us.
Indicia.
It's the plural of indexes.
I mean, it's the plural of indexes.
Indicators.
I think it's the plural of indicators.
Okay, yeah, that would be it.
Indesia.
I'm just going to use that from time to time.
Indesia, I think so.
Indesia.
Yeah, I'm just going to say, you know, there's multiple indicia.
Yeah, you don't sound pretentious enough.
...that you have a passenger who is intent upon blowing up the plane.
And so for that, you don't necessarily need an AIT or a so-called body scanner.
Oh, you don't need that.
Body scanners, of course, are extraordinarily helpful for non-vitallic devices, but they are not the only thing that can help us with detection.
So, you don't need naked body scanners because we have plenty of indicia.
The only thing I could come up with here is she just wants more people.
She just wants more slavelets running around doing whatever she tells them to do.
I couldn't come up with anything else.
Well, I have to go back to the Micah testimony that we heard and played on the show, I don't know, five months ago.
More than that, more than that.
Where Micah says...
They don't work.
They don't work.
Yeah.
We get the report right here in front of me.
They tested and tested.
They don't work.
Yeah.
So I think it's just a reenactment of the fractal of the puffer machine, which doesn't work, and they took them out of service.
They're going to take these things out of service, I'll bet.
I mean, they're kind of...
Like when I said the last time I came out of Seattle, they had them all blocked off.
They weren't using them at all.
They were using nothing but metal detectors.
When I came back from Los Angeles from visiting my daughter at LAX, no naked body scanners, no microwaves, only a magnetometer.
So something's up.
At LAX, yeah.
Although something's up everywhere.
Yeah.
Because there's no coincidence that we both came through big airports and we ran into this situation.
I mean, Oakland was using them on the way out, but they still had their lines that only went through magnetometers, which is the one you get into.
Yeah.
But the other ones, they were working them, but the big airports weren't.
It's interesting.
And this seems to me to be her trying to soften the blow because there's going to be a huge...
If they pull those things offline, there's going to be squawking.
Yeah, here comes the blowback.
You're right.
That's possible.
And by the way, she needs a new necklace.
You know, those big rocks.
Oh, they're probably all grimy.
Can you imagine?
She has, like, big blue rocks on a leather thong.
This is no...
Hello, 1970 calling, Lucy.
Please, we want our rocks back.
Did you get some pearls or something?
Look what's better on her.
So I have...
The boulders around her neck.
Yeah, she's like a boulders.
A new segment, John, at the beginning of the show, which I think is really important.
We start off.
You ready for it?
I'm always ready.
I was born ready.
We suck!
Okay.
I thought the We Suck segment, just to get some stuff out of the way.
I suck a lot more than you do.
So here we go.
That may be true.
Yes.
Jerry Sandusky.
What's he got to do with the show?
Jerry.
Hey, hey, hey, hey.
Jerry Sandusky.
I thought that he would get off on the...
Oh, yeah.
I was going to give you crap about that.
Yeah.
On his...
What was it?
The...
Hmm.
The HPD... Yeah, the hyperventilating syndrome.
Yeah, personality disorder.
So, whoa, okay, I was wrong there.
Indicted on 45 of 48 counts.
So I thought he was a kingpin.
I guess not.
Out, go away.
How long do you think before he suicides himself?
Well, they're already softening the blow.
The media is softening the blow on that because they have mentioned everywhere I've turned that he's on suicide watch.
Yeah, okay.
There you go.
So it won't take long before we have the...
We have a Deadpool.
No, it's okay.
It's not fair.
It's easy.
It's easy.
So there's that one.
Boy, it gets worse for me.
Mitch Daniels...
Who I said would possibly be Romney's VP nomination, now officially named Purdue University's president.
So I guess that pulls him out.
Step up for him.
Yeah, big step up.
So that pulls him out of the running.
And it just went downhill from there.
I was so sure that Ronaldo would throw the Euro 2012 match against the Czech Republic.
And damn, if he didn't pull one off.
So the Czech Republic is out.
Portugal goes through.
You, of course, said Portugal would win, but you lost on the Germany versus Greece, which was being heralded in the United States of Europe as the battle of the bailouts.
So Germany literally just stomped on Greece.
Yeah, I think that was to make a point.
Do you think?
It was just like, hey, boom.
So we still have Spain is still in the race.
You didn't predict France.
You did say Spain.
No, no.
I'm still Germany, Italy.
And you're Germany, Italy.
I'm sticking with...
I'm moving Spain.
Well, Spain won the last competition, I think.
Well, Spain plays...
I don't know.
I mean, by the way...
We'll see.
When we get to the end, we're getting...
Close to the end and we'll make our final predictions and we'll see what happens.
You're going to stick with Germany because they could be taking them all the way to the end.
And there's a twist on this thesis that we have.
We could explain it, but people should know what we're talking about.
We think these games are rigged.
And it's always done to us.
We don't actually care about the sport.
No, we don't.
We do not give a crap about the sport.
And it's soccer, anyway.
Which is always 1-0.
I mean, come on.
No, no, no.
Germany-Greece was 4-2.
Come on.
That was a pounding.
That was a pounding.
Yeah, that was a pounding.
No, we have England against Italy today.
So, of course, in my thesis...
Italy will win that.
Italy has to win.
For you.
Now, we will get, I think, France against Portugal...
So here at Camp MoFo, Miss Mickey has gone off the reservation, and she's saying, of course, she totally buys into the riggedness of it all.
By the way, I picked England in this Italian match.
Really?
You're picking England?
Okay.
Yeah.
Because I don't think Italy is the target country.
I do.
But Miss Mickey is saying, no matter what she says, it's time.
They want to start World War III. Germany for the win.
She's way beyond us.
This is what I was going to say.
I can see this being a scenario.
I can see Germany winning the whole thing just to say, look, we're in charge.
No, wait a minute.
I think Mickey may be onto something.
I'm not going to argue that one.
Here's Angela Merkel after Germany wins Euro 2012.
Shaps!
That's exactly what it's going to be.
Well, you know, and of course now I have to just be, I just have to take in a different position here at the House because I, you know, I mean, I'm looking at these guys.
They're so desperate to save this Euro thing that it seems hard for me to believe that they would be willing to start, you know, the actual civil war over there in Euro land by letting Germany win.
It's premature.
It's not going to start for a while.
It's going to blow up on its own.
It's not going to be instigated by anyone.
I do have a little Merkel clip.
Did you see her, by the way, during that match?
Did you watch any of it?
No, I don't watch soccer.
It's so boring.
No offense to our European listeners.
Or South American listeners.
Every single time, Demonshaft, as I know, which is a military term, every single time they would win, she would go like, you know, those little arms would go up, and then she would rub her hands together.
It was the creepiest thing.
Exactly.
All right, what do you have from Harry Merkle?
I just want to reiterate this issue, which I think is just a little theme in here I want to talk about for one second, and then we can move along.
Oh, this is the Merkel on Europe clip?
I'm sorry.
In Europe, German Chancellor Angela Merkel has agreed on more growth measures.
On Friday, after meeting with her French, Spanish and Italian counterparts, she agreed to putting together a 130 billion euro package that would include, for example, boosting funds in the European Investment Bank so it could lend more to troubled governments.
Well, Merkel's line has always been that austerity holds the key to getting the Eurozone out of its debt crisis.
And she's also sticking to her stance that Europe needs to be more closely tied together.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's kind of the message.
Yeah, it's like, in other words, starve to death and we're the boss.
You know, Schobel came out this morning and he said, this has got to stop.
We need to have a much larger European government.
And, in fact, I have it here.
The German upper house...
This is where it gets frightening.
In order to implement the ESM, the European Stability Mechanism, they want financial concessions, i.e.
collateral, just like what Finland was asking for, for billions of euros.
So now you have the risk that what everyone was really afraid of is when these countries, and they inevitably will, default on their loans, then Germany comes in and says, hey, give me that bike.
It's crazy.
It's like, I've seen this movie before, several times.
Yeah.
Yeah.
They're just doing it differently this time.
Yeah.
So there's a proposal now.
Here's the quote translated from Angela.
More Europeans means we must give up more powers to Europe.
Now, this is written by the BBC, so I'm going to presume that the words give up are a loose translation to make people feel crappy about it.
So she's putting together something called the Future Group.
And the future group is going to come up with this proposal for how we're going to integrate Europe more.
So here's the one, two, three, the six-point plan.
One, more European power to determine the economic and tax policies of the member states.
There should be a, quote, transfer of sovereignty to the European center.
Now again, this is the BBC. So, you know, this could be complete propagandistic translation, and I have not read the original documents.
Second on the list, a strengthening of the EU's foreign office with a common European foreign and security police, also known as brown shirts.
A smaller European commission, able to make decisions faster.
It's always good.
A bigger role for the European Parliament to make, quote, stronger democratic legitimacy.
A directly elected president of Europe.
Now that's interesting because, of course, we don't have that right now.
And then here's the best one.
And this was a big one when the Lisbon Treaty came around.
Now they're saying, we need a European army.
This is exactly what everyone was afraid of.
And here it is.
We have a winner, finally.
Finally!
I have a note from one of our producers from Sintra, Portugal.
Jao Alves.
Now, of course, we've been harping on Barroso, that he's such a douchebag.
He says, Hey, in the morning, my name is Wauw Alvarez.
I'm from Sintra, Portugal.
I've been a listener for a long time.
I've donated.
Oh, I donated on 111111.
I was listening to the last show when I heard John saying that Haiku Herman is more entertaining than, I think that was me, actually, than the president of the European Commission, Barroso.
That remark concerning a countryman made me take upon myself the task of saving the Portuguese honor.
We, too, are able to provide great entertainment for all the slaves.
He says, and then he sends the age-old video of Barroso when he was the leader of the Maoist youth government in Portugal back in 1974.
And the guy was, he's a total communist.
Total communist.
It's a great video.
It's in the show notes with subtitles at 420.nashownotes.com.
He says, really, you know, no respect, but I believe the Portuguese could provide a lot more...
He said no respect.
I'm sorry, no disrespect.
I mean no disrespect, but I believe that the Portuguese can provide a lot more fun than the Belgians.
So already we have dissent amongst our own audience.
The Belgians.
The boring Belgians.
The boring Belgians.
Communist Portuguese.
We're much better.
We're much better than that.
And then just to wind it up with Europe, because you said something really interesting, we were talking about this in the last episode, about how the European ID and the certification of trade was going, tradesmanship was going to lead to licensing of journalism.
And Kosovo's Justice Minister and Deputy Prime Minister Hadjaret Kuchi resigned After Parliament passed a new penal code comprising two articles the European Union says will undermine the freedom of the press.
Two articles that is really, and really if you read into it, it's what the European Union is calling for.
And this is about the shield law.
About protecting your sources as a journalist.
So Kosovo's the first one to buckle, really, and say, well, you know, if the courts get a warrant, and the UK is the same now, if the courts get a warrant, then you have to reveal your sources.
So you're so spot on that journalism is going to die in Euroland.
It is over.
Yeah.
Well, it has to be.
Everything has to go the way of the Chinese.
You know, where the state controls the message.
Right.
Because it's not good otherwise.
It falls apart.
I mean, in a corrupt society, you can't even have the mildest form of corruption if you have a free press.
It can't be done.
Yeah, it's no good.
And then, just finally, to wrap up our We Suck segment, regarding Marinol, I received several of these emails.
I don't know if you received any.
On what?
I'm sorry?
Marinol.
I guess we were talking about synthetic drugs and...
Oh, right.
Marinol.
Right.
The THC or the THC substitute.
Right.
And you said you can't get high off of this.
No, no.
I corrected that at the end of my comment.
I read right from the book of knowledge.
It says, no, you get more high.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, because that's the message.
The problem is, people have to realize that with this show, and I've seen this happen.
We'll say something and then we'll correct ourselves five minutes later.
But they're already off writing nasty emails.
We're doing the show in real time.
Yeah.
And we're looking at all kinds of documents where windows are wide open.
This is like being in the stock market.
You're trading stocks.
And you change your mind.
You say, oh, wait a minute, I was wrong about that.
But people listen linearly and they think that nothing, you know, so they don't listen to the whole thing.
They don't listen through the show.
Yeah, so here's how it goes.
Ah!
Ah!
Ah, that jerk.
Hold on a second.
I said that off an email.
I said it right.
And then they forget to listen to the rest.
Right.
No, that was corrected on the fly.
So apparently Marinol is awesome.
The legalization of dope is done.
That's basically the...
Well, you know, this being episode 420, and I was actually expecting to see a lot of 420 donors.
Got nothing.
No, we got one.
Yeah, we got one and the two from the last show.
One 420 donor.
I'm like, I got all these cool weed clips, war on weed.
I'm like, you know, our audience is going to love this.
Now I feel stupid.
No one seems to care.
No, we do not have a big...
No, we don't have a stone...
Well, apparently they like Marinol and bath salts.
We've got enough of that.
I don't know about that either.
Anyway.
I think our audience is that wasted, generally speaking.
I do have one kind of an interesting clip.
If you want to bring some of your dope clips out, then we can get them out of the way, then we can do our donation.
Yeah, let me do two dope clips.
So one, and of course there is something afoot, and I think we kind of tripped over it on the last episode that it looks like a legal, patented, synthesized version of marijuana is going to be sold by Big Pharma.
And I guess we're being prepared for that.
And it seems like what we had to do is get rid of all the, you know, all the synthetic stuff.
So spice and K2 and, of course, the bath salts.
We've got to, you know, like good drug dealers, the good drug dealers at the pharmaceutical companies are.
We've got to get rid of the competition, and then we're going to come into the market.
But it was surprising to hear Rahm Emanuel say this.
I got comfortable with this because I think this is the right thing to do for a number of reasons.
Thank you.
It does not undermine what we're trying to do on fighting crime.
In fact, I think it more focuses us on the hardcore elements.
So he's talking about decriminalizing marijuana in Chicago so you can have a certain amount for personal use on you and not get thrown into jail.
And for him, I mean, this guy is without a doubt an a-hole.
And you wouldn't expect him to be doing this.
So that was surprising.
And then just as a, excuse me, Just as a fun clip, I found yet more of the congressional testimony of the DEA Administrator Leonard, the woman who we played the clip from on the last episode, who is just getting hammered by this panel.
And Steve Cohen, what is he?
He's from, I don't know what state he's from.
I mean, it's five minutes.
I'm not going to play it.
If you want, we can play it end of show.
Well, I was going to play it end of show clip, but let me play a little bit.
This woman from the get-go is just, you know, forget about it.
And I don't understand how DEA could send such a bonehead.
And more importantly, that all these guys are all trying to get marijuana legalized.
Thank you.
Thank you, Mr.
Hunter.
What's your budget?
Yeah.
Well, currently...
Approximately.
Two million.
Two million?
I'm sorry, two billion dollars.
She's already lost.
It's like, if you make that kind of mistake at the beginning, forget about it.
Forget about it.
For about two billion dollars.
And then we have additional, with a fee account for our diversion program.
Blah, blah, blah.
So, total budget is...
Over $2 billion.
Do you get any confiscation money?
Do you get any money from confiscation?
What?
I'm sorry?
Do you get any money from confiscation?
I'm sorry?
What?
I wasn't expecting that question.
Not in the script.
Confiscations of properties.
You're talking about asset forfeiture.
There is money that the Department of Justice gives us from the asset forfeiture.
How much money do you get from that?
I would have to...
Do you have any idea at all?
If you give me a Mona...
I'd rather not take that.
Did you see this by any chance?
No, this is brutal.
Oh yeah, it just goes on and on, but she has, in front of her, she has a binder, and you can see that it's open to a page that has pie charts.
I don't know what she was expecting to do.
She's obviously an idiot.
By the way, I thought it was funny, the difference in that she says confiscations, and she's befuddled by this, and then she realizes, or always knew that it was asset forfeiture.
Asset forfeiture.
It's a different way of looking.
It's confiscation.
Yeah, stealing is what it is.
It's stealing.
It's not asset forfeiture.
It makes it sound like, okay, you can have my Ferrari.
Well, this is, yeah, exactly.
The IRS probably calls it asset forfeiture as well.
So anyway, there's such a huge, on one hand, a war on weed, where we have now the IRS seizing bank accounts of people who rent out buildings to marijuana dispensaries in California.
But on the other hand, we've got...
All these guys in Congress saying, you know, come on, we got to, you know, this clip actually ends up with him saying, you know, can you really tell me that, you know, this is dangerous where, you know, there's like a Navy SEAL who has cancer and it helps him eat and puts a smile on his face, you know, which of course is like, what douchebag is going to say?
No, that's no good.
So, you know, we have that.
And then what was the name of the company you said?
Because I found the GW Pharma is coming out with Sativex.
And that's the synthesized liquid cannabinoid.
It was like Abbott Laboratories?
These guys were bought out by one of the big ones.
Were these guys bought out?
The GW Pharma?
Were they the ones that were bought out?
I don't know if it was GW Pharma.
No, it was something else.
It started with an S, I believe.
I have to look it up.
Right.
Well, the Sativex.
Was that it?
Sativex?
No.
Something else.
So Sativex is a synthesized liquid cannabinoid medicine.
And so it just seems to me like, I mean, I can't for a second believe these guys give a crap about medical marijuana because there's nothing in it for them.
They must be doing this to say marijuana or the cannabinoid properties or whatever is good.
And we're going to have a huge announcement one of these days.
I mean, it seems like that's in the cards and they're setting us up for it.
Yeah, something's up.
But I think it's going to go toward the big pharma companies.
That's what I'm saying.
Because Obama needs their money.
But that's what I'm saying.
We're being set up on one hand, let's get rid of the real drug dealing system, even though it's medical marijuana.
On the other hand, we're going to say...
Medical marijuana is really great, but now it's really about medical marijuana, but we have to sell our medical marijuana through our approved drug dealers known as the doctors.
That's where this has to be going.
I just don't see any other logical explanation.
I don't believe any of these guys actually has the slaves of Gitmo Nation's best interest at heart.
You think?
Really?
Just a thought.
Anyway, in the morning to you, John C. Dvorak.
In the morning to you.
Before I get off the topic, I do want to play my dope clip.
What's your dope clip?
In the morning to you, by the way, Adam Curry and all ships and sea boots on the ground, subs in the water, and feet in the air.
Yeah, and of course, human resources who are with us once again in the chat room, noagendastream.com, noagendachat.net.
Good.
What's your dope clip?
So Meghan McCain is stumping.
Oh, God.
This book, this trip she did with this other douche.
Yeah, she and this guy, and they were on C-SPAN. Yeah, America, You Pretty Bitch, I think is the name of the book.
America, You Sexy Bitch.
Whatever.
Whatever.
You said it.
Here's why.
The first time I heard about this book, the comedian she went on tour with was on Joy Behar, and it was like 11 minutes, and I couldn't sit through it.
Yeah, well, you don't have to sit through much longer.
But they went on and on about the difference between the red and the blue states, and this guy's a Democrat, and she's a Republican.
And by the way, she's getting pretty chubby for her age, it seems to me.
No, no offense to me.
Now, is this the gay Cheney?
No, Cheney?
No, this is McCain.
Oh, this is McCain.
Oh, there you go.
So this is McCain's daughter?
Yeah, she's the one who's always...
She writes a column for the Daily Beast, and yeah, it's McCain's daughter.
Hold on.
And she's getting dingy.
I mean, I've seen her before when she was a little younger.
You're getting a lot of trouble for this.
She seemed pretty sharp, but now she seems like a dingbat.
I think she's also having something going on with her and her married partner, the married guy who's a Democrat.
Hold on.
So they went into a thing, and it was kind of boring, and she was giving him grief the other way around.
But the guy from C-SPAN asked, after they took this tour, what changed?
And I thought it was interesting, because they both denied, no, I'm still the same Democrat I was, I'm still the same Republican I was, but that's not true.
And the changes, I thought, were fascinating.
It's a little longer than I'd like this clip to be, but you have to listen to it to the end, His change is interesting and unique, and her change is even more interesting.
There's a stereotype that Republicans are more fun than Democrats.
And having spent time on the road with a lot of Republicans, I can absolutely confirm that that's true.
Republicans are a lot more fun than Democrats.
We like to have a good time in a different way than Democrats do, I'm telling you.
Any of your views change in this tour?
No.
Okay.
I got more into guns.
I had never fired a gun.
Megan's brother taught me to shoot.
I liked that a lot.
Is this your brother who served in the Marines?
Yes.
Yeah, he's here now.
He's behind you.
We had a great time shooting.
No, it wasn't really about changing minds so much as it was just trying to hear the other person's point of view without judgment and without prejudice.
And I think I changed your mind far more than you changed mine.
I think I'm a lot more persuasive and articulate.
I had my mind changed on quite a few different things.
I mean, I don't know if I'm allowed to say this.
On what?
On marijuana legalization in America.
Had you not been involved?
I had it.
When we went on the road, it was a time that we really met a lot of people.
A lot of stories.
I met a lot of people that gave really good cases for, economically, why it should be changed.
And once I started really doing research on the decriminalization of marijuana in this country and the possible financial benefits and really why we're imprisoning so many people for so many reasons, my opinion has been changed, which is sort of a scary thing to admit because, again, it goes so against the Republican orthodoxy, and I feel like it's just one more thing right-wing conservatives are going to use against me.
Yeah, William F. Buckley.
He was a big supporter of drugs.
Yes, he was.
And, you know, possibly Mario Cuomo at this point.
And the Tides really are...
Mario.
I'm sorry, yes.
Mario Cuomo, big starter.
But it's just, I don't know, it's another scary thing, but that was definitely...
Okay, so now I'm even more convinced it's a coordinated campaign because now she's coming out at the same time that all these other guys are coming out.
This is coordinated.
Yeah.
Well, I don't know how coordinated it is with her, or coincidental, but it did come out in the story, so it was brought out.
And something's up.
I'm going to repeat your pet peeve.
Something's up, but wait a minute.
Something's up, but it sure wasn't reflected in our donations.
No.
No.
Before we get to that, I just want to repeat that Wikipedia should have people's height listed.
This is one of your peeves, and I'm just looking at her Wikipedia page, and there's no height listed.
I agree with that.
Of course I agree with it, because I brought it up over and over, and so have you.
Which is a huge...
A mistake.
A mistake.
A hole.
It's a data hole.
It's a data hole.
There you go.
Alright, so we got...
Let me see.
Let me count.
We got one 420 donation.
And that's it.
We did have a couple of executive producers, which is nice.
Yeah, but nobody cares.
This is what I consider to be a failed promotion.
A failed promotion.
It's just as bad as wearing pants when you have sexy legs.
The rush of today, girl.
We've had a couple failed promotions now and again.
This was the biggest dog.
Like a nap for humanity.
Yeah, dog.
Huge failure.
Yeah, dog.
Exactly.
Dog.
Well, this is right up there.
But we do have some people we want to thank.
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Nice, nice number.
Sir David, we appreciate that.
And our 420 donor, who won't even admit to his name, he refuses to give his name his name.
Amsterdam in Middleburg.
That's his name.
In Florida.
Wow.
And he's got this comment.
Donations to support the No Agenda Show.
I wish to express my concern for the abuse of pharmaceuticals, especially among women under 30.
Many of the younger women are taking amphetamines, Adderall, benzodiazepines, muscle relaxers, Ativan and Clonopin.
This guy must be a pharmacist.
Antidepressants, Welbutrin and painkillers, Loratab and more all at the same time.
I believe they suffer from amphetamine psychosis or worse.
The emotional up and down swing they experience causes explosive personalities.
I wonder how many young women in this country are addicted to powerful medications.
You have the best podcast in the universe.
I look forward to meeting Adam on the next Hot Pocket store.
Please continue to expose the pharmaceutical abuse crisis.
So women take these all at the same time?
Well, that's what he's saying, and I wouldn't be surprised.
I think you should take them.
People don't know what they're doing when they're taking drugs.
I think it's okay if you take them as long as you wash it down with a martini.
Yeah, there you go.
A double martini.
Thank you, Amsterdam and Middleburg, for the only entry into our hotly anticipated promotion.
Well, we do have two other carryovers that we'll also get credit as executive producers.
420 Club members from last show.
I promised double producerships and this is what we got.
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And John, my first name is I from India, Eon, okay, pronounced E, and Eon, and my Roman equivalent, John, Eon, Eon.
Okay.
John.
He says, to make it easier, just call me John.
Just call me John.
Alright, thanks.
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And continuing on for the credits for show 420, associate executive producer, Daniel Stamit, Stamit, Stamit, I don't know.
Hamilton, New Jersey, 21212.
Love the podcast.
First time donor.
I'm ashamed to admit, but I used to skip through the donation segment.
But I've stopped because there's good information that we've slipped in.
Exactly.
Good thing I would have missed a great bad karma story of the guy in the woods with the toilet paper.
Yeah.
That was one of the better ones.
Yeah.
So people, don't skip the donation segment.
Can you please give that guy, that guy, another karma from me?
And can you give me a war on chicken?
I just bought four chickens.
Oh, wow.
Okay, should we do a combo then?
War on chicken karma combo?
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Sorry, I wasn't prepared for that.
Here we go.
The war on chicken.
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Thank you, Daniel.
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Been a boner for years, he says.
I've donated before.
You don't have to read all the crap the rest of this.
Read what you want in public.
Just take the opportunity to share my experience that you're thinking about going to Syria.
Me and my wife went to Gitmo Nation, Damascus, a couple years ago to attend a Christian wedding in the city of Aleppo.
Syria's second largest city not far from Turkey.
The first thing that struck us were large Stalin-like images of the president on the walls of the large buildings.
When we asked people, we knew about their opinion of the president.
Most of them told us that the positive thing about al-Assad is that he's tall.
We've been told beforehand that Syrians are well known for their hospitality, even more so than other countries in the region.
On the first day, we went looking for a local SIM card so we could be able to use our cell phones.
In the first shop we entered, we were welcomed by a guy who didn't understand any English.
But when we pointed at the logo of the state-controlled cell phone company, he called for his son.
And come on, where's my open up?
Gave him some brief instructions.
And off we went with the kid as our guide.
We reached our destination within a few minutes, a building resembling a postal office with people waiting in long lines.
The security guard apologized, that's my interpretation of his words, and escorted us past the line so we could do our business.
They did, however, take our fingerprints during the sign-up process, but that stayed policy, which of course could be very different from the attitude of the hello citizens.
Interesting.
Anyway, yeah.
But that part of the world, there is a lot of...
Turkey is fairly hospitable, too.
I think they're similar cultures.
Anyway, that will be our executive producer donation segment.
That's what we got for the show 420.
Very little interest in 420 itself.
We'll go on with some other idea and see if we can get some more enthusiasm.
We do have two other 420 Club members from a previous episode who I do want to mention.
They do get their double producership.
And that's John Pacifici and Jeroen Höttinger.
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Love that kid.
I just love the kid.
Kid.
Anyway, so even though we kind of suck in a lot of stuff, I am, well, pleased is not the word, but very interesting to see that whether it's a false flag or whatever it is, you know, of course the prediction was Turkey will have some kind of event With Syria,
and that will prompt a Chapter 7 resolution, since Turkey is a NATO member, and they're going to go and say, hey, we need some kind of help here, and one of the members has been attacked, and that means you've got to step it up.
And, well, here's the BBC report proving just that.
Syrian air defenses have destroyed a Turkish fighter jet after it violated airspace in the country's north.
Ankara, however, is now vowing decisive action in response.
Yeah, this whole thing is weird, and it's just a weak, weak debate.
I don't like it.
I have one little clip from Euronews.
Today's show, I have all my clips are from alien sources.
I think I may have one from Democracy Now!
But there's a little tidbit in this turkey mat about refugees.
I think that there's something fishy about this whole story.
Spilled over the border into Turkey since violence erupted 15 months ago.
Between Ankara and Damascus have hit an all-time low.
More than 32,000 Syrian refugees have spilled over the border into Turkey since violence erupted 15 months ago.
Ankara has called on President Assad to step down over his handling of the uprising.
This incident will further escalate tensions with his regime.
Hmm.
Now, so there's something.
I think Turkey's mad about the refugees, and so this is an excuse.
And there was another clip I didn't take or put out, but just to summarize it, it was that the Turkish say, we're always flying over there.
Low flying jets are normal?
Do I have that?
Yeah, yeah, I got it here.
Oh yeah, play that, yeah.
Now Jasper, Turkish President Abdullah Gull has said this morning that it's actually routine for jets traveling at high speeds to cross borders for a short amount of distance.
So is this shooting of the jet a sign of increasingly frayed Syrian nerves, for example?
You know, there's something else going on because this happened over Hatay province.
And this is the Hatay state.
This has always been a region of contention between Syria and Turkey.
I think at one point it was Syrian turf, then it became Turkish turf.
So there is some kind of long-standing dispute over this exact area.
Something that I found that was quite interesting...
Is Operation Orchard.
And this dates back to, wow, this is 2008.
Apparently, Israeli intelligence...
Has, and this isn't from the Book of Knowledge, so, you know, the Wikipedia, so take it with whatever grain of salt you want.
Apparently they have the technology, here there's a report in the IEEE Spectrum site of European sources claiming Syrian air defense network can be deactivated by a built-in kill switch activated by the Israelis.
Now, again, this is book of knowledge stuff.
But to me, that means that this kind of points to just a false flag.
It's like, huh?
It just happened?
I don't know if it was intentional.
With this piece of information in mind, is it possible that the...
Somebody got together with the Turks and said, look, we need to do something here to get something going.
Just fly one of your jets over there.
We'll flip the switch.
Don't worry about it.
You just fly.
Don't worry about it.
We got you covered.
We'll take care of the rest.
And this doesn't work.
It's bull crap.
Flip the switch, but somebody reprogrammed the computers three years later.
I mean, come on.
So the thing that...
Really blew me away, though.
We got a report, and this is from...
This is a Reuters report.
Let me just get you the actual date.
So this is dated yesterday.
Syrian army has shelled the eastern city of Deir-Azor...
Saturday, killing at least 28 people, according to opposition activists.
This is the big unknown, you know, opposite, whoever that is, opposition activists.
And lo and behold, I went back to two weeks ago when Victoria Nuland, who is, she is Nostradamus, I'm telling you.
Victoria Nuland, the spokeshole for the State Department, She said, we know I'm looking in my crystal ball and I think...
The regime may be organizing another massacre, this time in the village of Al-Hafa in Latakia province, as well as in the towns of Deir Azur, Indara, in Homs, in Hama.
She nailed it!
How awesome is she?
Organizing a massacre?
Yeah, that's how it works.
You organize the massacre.
And she calls out the town, the very town, Del Azor, where 28 people, according to opposition activists, were killed.
How would she know this?
Are our intelligence guys that good?
She is.
She is the oracle.
By the way, do you know who she's married to?
Oh, brother.
Yeah, I was kind of surprised by this myself.
She's married to...
Hold on.
I was just looking this up.
Hold on.
Newland.
This freaked me out when I saw this.
Here we go.
Wait, where is she?
Oh, here.
Robert Kagan.
Robert Kagan, born September 26, 1958 in Athens, Greece, is an American historian, author, and foreign policy commentator at the Brookings Institution, co-founder of the political organization Project for the New American Century.
Oh yeah, those guys.
So no wonder she has the inside track.
This is pillow talk.
Vicky, honey, and baby, listen, you know, why don't you just, I think you can predict a massacre.
Yeah, you want to have some fun with the media?
Yeah, predict a massacre.
Predict it and see if anybody picks up on it.
Yeah.
I'll bet you $10 they won't.
Oh, yes, they will.
No, they won't.
Yes, they will.
$10.
I'll go $50.
I'll wash the dishes and take out the trash.
I promise, baby.
So clearly, and she's reading it.
You can hear it right there.
She's reading that information from her little binder.
So you cannot say that we are not completely involved in making this happen through our unnamed opposition forces, whatever it's called.
So while all of this is taking place, though, what is kind of unreported is that Turkey has been leading bombing raids on the Kurds, the Kurdistan Workers' Party, right there on the other border.
And they're all pissed at them for whatever.
That's been going on for eons as well.
And that kind of happened under the radar, so to speak, at the same time.
So maybe it's just a huge distraction.
Well, I mean, they're bombing, the Turks are bombing Kurdish rebels inside Iraq.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Yeah, well, I thought you were implying it was that they were in Turkey.
Well, no, but it's the other border, I said.
This is like, why is this going on?
This is not being covered.
No.
It's outrageous.
And I thought the Kurds were our friends.
No, no, no, no.
Well, I guess not.
Or maybe they are, and maybe that's why we needed some kind of distraction.
Well, that doesn't make any sense.
Why would we want to distract it?
We'd want to draw attention to it to get them to stop bombing our buddies.
So the city of Der Azor is 211,000 people, according to Wikipedia.
That's why we needed a mask.
My understanding was supposedly the Syrians were bombing the shelters or the refugee compounds.
because they're evil.
That's the way we define them.
So they would find people, refugees, poor people, leave the country of Syria and then the Syrians bomb them.
I mean, this whole thing is really sketchy in terms of the scenario.
I think it's very poorly written.
And it's not following quite the script that it should be following.
There should have been no-fly zone by now and this guy should be scrambling to get out of the country.
Well, no, I mean, that's obvious.
And I actually have the Here's the script that should be followed, because, of course, the lead actor is Kofi Annan, the notoriously corrupt Kofi Annan.
And here was his statement this week.
It is time for countries of influence to raise a level of pressure.
On the parties on the ground.
I think that means screw their balls tighter.
And to persuade them that it is in their interest to stop the killing and start talking.
When I briefed the Security Council last time, actually earlier this month, I said, as we move forward, we should keep our goals firmly in view.
To stop the killing, help the suffering population, secure a political transition and ensure that the crisis does not spread to the neighbours.
The longer we wait, the darker, serious future becomes.
Now, spreading to the neighbors, of course, you caught it immediately.
Well, no, actually, I caught something else, too.
Oh, what did you catch?
The meme, sovereign population.
Ooh, let me hear that again.
Hold on.
The longer we wait, the darker, serious future becomes.
No, it's before that.
It's before that.
Even before that?
Hold on a second.
Ah, stupid Kofi.
Come on.
No?
I'm going back further.
Ah.
Who is the sovereign population of Syria?
Well, this is an interesting term because I've never heard it in this sort of context before.
They're implying that, I think, by using this new term, they're implying that Syria is a...
I think it's a serious country that is being ruled by some sort of outsiders.
Which brings me to an interesting point that is not being discussed at all.
I have a really crappy clip where somebody mentioned it.
As soon as they said it, it was from one of these foreign news sources.
I think it was Al Jazeera, actually.
They mentioned that, and I didn't, I don't know why it didn't dawn on me, but I didn't realize that Assad is a member of the Ba'ath Party.
Which is the same party that Saddam Hussein was a member of.
And I think that there was always some sort of, I think there was an agreement with that party, which apparently is very deep-rooted into certain Middle Eastern countries.
It's a Sunni party.
I think something broke down between them and some of the Western countries, including us, to where we have to take all of them out.
So Hussein would be one.
He's gone.
They killed him.
And this guy's the next target because this bath party's got to go for some reason.
Didn't think about deconstructing why or what happened or where it broke down or what bad things occurred that required their immediate extermination.
But I think there's something to that, too.
And that's why I think sovereign population is being used as a term.
So, let me see.
It's an ideology mixing Arab-nationalist, pan-Arabism, Arab-socialist, and anti-imperialist interests.
Calls for the renaissance, resurrection, and unification of the Arab world.
The whole Bashad guy is interesting, because he was educated in the U.S. Hmm.
Well, there's a lot of thoughts that I have.
And I've actually...
Remember, I was telling you about our friends in Los Angeles, and they gave me a lot of that Sharia in America, the little propaganda booklets that I was reading?
Yeah.
So they're visiting this weekend.
Did they bring some more books?
Better than that.
In fact, last night, it was like 11.30.
I at one point said...
Everything you're telling me, I just want to make sure you're not my CIA handler and you're not here to just indoctrinate me with all this stuff.
She says, no, no, no, I'm just a house frow from Los Angeles.
Ah.
Go to Austin to visit you.
Exactly.
I'm like, this can't be any good.
But we had a very long, interesting conversation about the actual plan.
And I have to say it kind of fits into some other things that we've been looking at.
And maybe it fits into the bath party as well.
But before I get to that...
I would like to play just a few snippets of an interview that was done at the State Department on the top floor there.
They have a nice little bitching auditorium going on.
Nice lighting and everything.
And this was Charlie Rose interviewing James Baker and Lucifer Clippity-Clop Hillary Clinton.
And so the topic...
I have three clips.
So the topic comes up about Iran.
And so it's very obvious that we've got to take them out.
But the language that was used and the laughter and the elitism of it all, because at the end of the day, no matter what you're doing for whatever reasons, you're going to be killing people.
And the killing people thing is what I object to.
I have some problems with that.
But listen to Baker and then Clippity Clop and just laughing about how it's going to be next year.
Containment will not work.
I agree with that.
My personal position on that is this.
We ought to try every possible avenue we can to see if we can get them to correct their desire and goal of acquiring a nuclear weapon, but we cannot let them acquire that weapon.
We are the only country in the world that can stop that.
The Israelis, in my opinion, do not have the capability of stopping it.
They can delay it.
There will also be many, many side effects, all of them adverse, from an Israeli strike.
But at the end of the day, if we don't get it done the way the administration's working on it now, which I totally agree with, then we ought to take them out.
Secretary Clinton.
Well, we're working hard.
We're working hard.
I said at the end of the day, the end of the day may be next year.
Next year!
It will be!
The message is clear.
Clippity-cloth.
Kill him!
So I was like, wow!
I want to remind everybody, this is despite all the intelligence reports having it that Iran is not working on such a device at all.
Right, so here...
We either have good intelligence or we don't.
Right.
I think we do.
So here is the...
Now I'm going to interweave this with some of the conversation that I had.
So there's two parts to this.
One part is the firm belief, firm belief that the leadership of Iran is intent, the minute they have a nuclear weapon, to drop it on Israel.
That is a firm, firm, firm belief.
Really?
And that would be wise because what?
Well, this is my point.
I'm like, that makes no sense.
It makes no sense.
But what is being given back to me is that, no, it makes no sense because these people...
Their only mission in life, according to Sharia, the law of Islam, and this does not reflect the people of Persia or Iran specifically, but the leadership is...
It doesn't refer to the sovereign population.
The sovereign population, no.
It only refers to the leadership in that their whole mission in life is to, you know, get credits with Allah and whoever...
The big dude in the sky.
And that's what it's all about.
And therefore, they are indeed crazy.
And I say, well, if that was really true, you can get a dirty bomb.
You can get all kinds of stuff.
Why haven't they been doing it already for all this time?
There's so many things they could be doing.
Why are they waiting for this to happen?
That makes no sense.
I'll get back to that in a second because I think we're actually being misled and it's about something else.
So I wanted to play a second clip here.
About this maybe a year business, because that was interesting to me.
You know, at first, Baker says maybe a year.
No, definitely next year.
I'm like, oh, really?
Well, thanks for that tip-off.
They will have a nuclear weapon, but whether they will have the capacity to quickly have a nuclear weapon.
Now, so there's a difference here.
It's the difference between having a nuclear weapon and the quick capacity to have a nuclear weapon.
Well, that is obviously the question, and that is why Jim said, you know, At the end of the day, maybe a year.
I mean, these kinds of calculations are...
Maybe more than that.
Maybe more than that.
They're difficult to make.
A lot of countries around the world have what's called breakout capacity.
They have stopped short of it.
They have not pursued it.
They have found it not to be in their interests or in the interests of regional stability.
But do you think that's what they mean and that's what they intend?
Well, that's what we're testing.
That's what every meeting with them is about, to try to really probe and see what kinds of commitments we can get out of them.
Okay, so now, again, the conversation here at Camp Mofo was like, you know, if you're tightening the noose around Iran, you know, we're forcing everybody, including China, not to purchase oil.
We've disabled their central banking.
You know, so what sense does this make?
At what point is it enough?
And there's Lucifer basically saying, well, you know, we're just waiting until we're convinced.
You know, this is what the meetings are about.
What meetings?
That's what she says.
You know, this is like when they ask questions, we're trying, we're testing this.
What meetings?
With who and when?
I never heard about these meetings.
I don't know.
We're not privy to this.
We don't have any security clearance.
But here's where the egregiousness comes in in this last bit.
But you've also suggested that the United States should do it rather than Israel.
Absolutely.
And the reason I say that is, if you look at what Martin Dempsey said not long ago, he said if Israel hits...
Chairman of the Joint Chiefs.
Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff said if Israel hits the Iranian nuclear facilities, we're going to lose a lot of American lives in the region.
Many people in the Israeli national security establishment have come out publicly now, you know, and questioned their leadership's view that maybe Israel ought to do it.
And they say, no, Israel shouldn't do it.
There are a lot of unanticipated consequences that could follow from that, not least of which is strengthening the hand of the hardliners in Iran.
I mean, you don't want to do that.
They're having troubles now.
The sanctions are not complete yet.
We want to squeeze them down more.
But they're having an effect.
And the government's having some problems.
And you don't want to lose all that.
In fact, I mean...
What Jim is saying is a really important point, because we know that there is a vigorous debate going on within the leadership decision-making group in Iran.
She can't bring herself to say it, but the decision-leadership-making red tea party over there.
There are those who say, look, you know, these sanctions are really biting.
We're not making the kind of economic progress we should be making.
We don't give up that much by saying we're not going to do a nuclear weapon and having a verifiable regime to demonstrate that.
And then, frankly, there are those who are saying the best thing that could happen to us is be attacked by somebody.
Just bring it on, because that would unify us, it would legitimize the regime.
You know, you feel sometimes when you...
So what's she saying?
Wait, wait, hold on.
She said legitimize the regime.
Yeah, yeah.
If somebody blew something and attacked us, which, by the way, just indicates false flag, it will legitimize our regime?
No, no, no, no, no, their regime.
They're saying it.
The leadership of Iran.
How's that good for us?
No, no.
She's saying that this is what they are talking about.
Like, that they are provoking that they actually want the attack.
This is...
Here, she clarifies it.
Oh, I'm sorry.
Okay, the way she explained it was...
Well, she clarifies.
They want to be attacked so they can stay in power.
Well, I think what she's saying is...
By the way, the regime has long since been legitimatized.
That's bullcrap.
What she's saying is...
That these people are nuts.
That is what she's saying.
I hear analysts and knowledgeable people talking about Iran, that they fear so much about the survival of the regime because, you know, deep down it's not a legitimate regime.
It doesn't represent the will of the people.
It's kind of morphed into a kind of a military theocracy.
And therefore...
An argument is made constantly on the hard-line side of the Iranian government that, you know, we're not going to give anything up, and in fact, we're going to provoke an attack because then we will be in power for as long as anyone can imagine.
Okay.
What do they do?
Hold on a second.
There's a number of things wrong with this.
First of all, I get the biggest kick out of her commenting what Jim is saying.
In other words, we can't understand a word of it.
Jim is drunk, by the way.
And so he says that the reason you don't want Israel to bomb Iran is because it will cost American lives.
Yeah, I don't know where that came from.
We can bomb them and it won't?
What sense does that make?
I have no idea where that came from.
I mean, Jim is, he had too many martinis before the interview.
I don't know.
I didn't understand that.
But here's what I understand.
That Clinton is saying these people are so nuts.
She talks about the theocracy, a military theocracy, i.e., this is such an unbelievable belief that we have to destroy Israel, we have to, you know, the caliphate, all these things that have to happen.
These people are nuts.
So the conversation that went on here last night turned then to the Muslim Brotherhood.
And this is where I was like, huh, this is very interesting.
I believe what is happening here is the elites of America, who run the show, feel that we are too stupid to understand perhaps the real threat that is taking place, and that is the integration of Sharia, the law of Islam into our American legal system, our culture.
And this is, of course, you can just Google it, and you'll see that this is taking place all over the world.
This is what's been happening in Europe.
And the Muslim Brotherhood, who, as far as I remember, back in the day, weren't these guys like the assholes?
And now all of a sudden they're our buddies, and we trust them.
Yeah, they're the ones who killed all the German tourists that were going to visit the pyramids.
Exactly.
And by the way, they just won the election in Egypt, and I'm sure that wasn't without our help.
So the theory here, and I'm kind of buying into this, is that very much like, I hate to say it because it makes me sound like a total whack job, but this is what Breivik put in his compendium, is that This is the third wave of attack from the Ottoman Empire, but they're going to do it without bloodshed.
They want to integrate the law of Sharia into, and of course America is the Holy Grail, because once you remove pieces of the Constitution, then you're winning.
And, of course, we're already seeing this because if you look at the United Kingdom, you can't say Islamism sucks.
You know, now it's like against the law.
And, you know, the first thing to remove would be our free speech.
Blasphemy.
Right.
It's like introducing blasphemy laws into the code.
So, you know, now I'm looking at the Muslim Brotherhood.
And I've collected a couple of interesting links in the show notes.
For instance...
There was a lawsuit, U.S. against the Holy Land Foundation in 2007.
Do you remember any of this?
Well, I might remember it when you talk about it.
Well, this was apparently an uncovering of all of these...
Non-profit organizations in the U.S. that were collecting money on behalf of the Muslim Brotherhood, but they weren't giving it to the people they were supposed to be helping out with these non-profits.
They were sending it back to Hamas or whatever, Hezbollah.
And this was a huge lawsuit.
We weren't doing the show, so we weren't really paying attention to that.
But more interestingly is something called The Project.
And the project were documents that were discovered in Switzerland back in 2001.
And this is the Muslim Brotherhood blueprint for, quote, cultural jihad.
And I've been reading through this, you know, long documents.
And it explains exactly what you see kind of happening now is the infiltration of not just cultural society but political society to propagate the so-called good parts of Sharia law.
And what I think is happening, and it's crazy because now I'm starting to agree with fucking McCain, which makes my mind bubble with just my blood is like, what?
Is that the elites think we're too stupid to see that this is actually happening and they have to distill it down to war on terror and people blowing stuff up where perhaps the real risk is Is actually this spreading of what we've discussed on the show as cultural Marxism to actually change certain things within our Constitution.
If you start looking at it, you see that absolutely the political correctness, anything that they put a phobia, Islamophobia, Islamophobia, It's a loaded term.
It's the irrational fear of Islam.
We have Sharia banking laws being integrated.
It's happening much faster in Europe.
And depending on which side you stand, this may not be a good thing, whether it's socialism, Marxism, communism, or Islamism.
That, of course, is not supposed to be what we're about here in America.
And so that is now kind of where I'm going in my head.
It's like, wow, that is actually what could be taking place.
But these elites think we're too stupid.
And therefore, the only thing we can think as Americans is, oh, we got a problem.
We got to bomb that shit.
Because we can't.
We're too stupid to understand.
Subtle changes in cultural, political correctness.
And, of course, we can't become too smart because then we'll be on to all their other games.
Because, of course, we're continuously being...
Well, we do know that the public's being dumbed down all the time.
Yes.
Which is one of the only reasons our show is on the air.
Because people would say, what?
What?
What?
But the...
I'm not completely biased.
I like the...
I like the fact that some people are out there pounding the drum.
I think that's a good thing.
Because there are threats that are problematic and a lot of them have to do with this sneakiness of some of these operators, let's say.
I have a clip that might shed a little light on how this always ends up coming.
At some point, some certain truths come out.
And in Spain right now, there's a huge scandal.
Oh.
Over an imam, and it's causing a backlash, and the Spanish are very sensitive to the Muslims because of their history.
What is that?
Explain.
Well, they were run by the Moors.
I mean, Spain was completely taken over by the Muslims, and then they were rousted.
They were run by, in fact, all of southern Spain is very Moorish in terms of its, which is Muslims, in terms of their architecture.
It's very pretty because of it.
And they incorporated some of the cultures, but they didn't like the religion.
And part of the reason is what's happening now in Spain.
And you can play the clip Spain versus the Muslims.
And I think very few people will know about this because it's not covered in the mainstream media.
Muslims have long been a part of Spanish history, In the 8th century, Muslims from North Africa, who came to be known as the Moors, conquered large parts of Spain and ruled it for centuries.
During much of this period, it is believed Muslims, Christians and Jews lived in relative harmony.
But today the situation is different.
With tensions on the rise between and within communities.
The perceptions some Muslims have of women has fueled anger in Spain, with people saying such views have no place in Spanish society.
Friday prayers, the highlight of the Muslim week.
This is where it happened.
The Imam of Tarasa gave instructions on how to beat a woman without leaving any traces.
The police recorded the sermons.
Wow.
It's bad.
There's no room for this kind of preaching here.
Every person deserves respect.
If this man doesn't like the laws in Europe, then he should go back to his own country.
He can have his own way there.
But feeding up and abusing women isn't reasonable anywhere, not where he comes from either.
A judge summoned the imam in March.
Abdeslam Naar Roussi made use of his right to silence.
He's from Morocco, like most of the members of the Muslim community of Terraza.
No one admits to hearing the controversial sermon.
The imam has since been replaced by someone else.
Yeah, so this is exactly what we're talking about.
You get in, you build your big mosque, And then you slip in like, by the way, if your bitch be acting up, here's how you hit the bitch.
I got the biggest kick out of no one in the midst of having heard this sermon.
I don't know, I didn't hear nothing.
Hey, I didn't hear nothing.
Anyway, so I am now at least alerted, and I will be paying attention.
By the way, here's a name that was pointed out to me.
Dalia Mogahed, American scholar from Egypt.
She's executive director of the Gallup Center for Muslim Studies, but she is also President Obama's advisor at the White House Office of Faith-Based and Neighborhood Partnerships.
So you get all these little things, you know, showing up in our system.
And this is also, I'm just trying to remember some of the conversation.
Anwar al-Awlaki, you know, we know that he spoke at the Pentagon, right?
And so my view certainly for a while has been, well, the guy was obviously a CIA shill.
Let's look at it from a different angle with this new data that I'm receiving.
What he was doing was desensitizing security forces, Pentagon, and look, these are just people too.
They can be...
They can be infiltrated with thoughts.
Like, no, you know, the Islamists were really kind.
This is how we are.
Don't worry about it.
You can't use, and we know this, you can't use the word, what is it, Islamist terrorist.
You can only say violent extremist, which is desensitizing.
Right.
In fact, the Obama administration policy is never to use Islam alongside the word terrorist.
Right.
And so that's probably what he was doing.
So there's a lot of...
It's effing with my mind, I have to be quite honest.
Whee!
Who needs drugs when you've got Islam?
but what makes me angry is you know so What makes me angry is that people have to fly out from Los Angeles.
Yeah.
Whoever they represent.
Yeah.
Yeah.
We have like what?
Intelligence operations, you know, large ones active and then there's thousands of little ones.
It could be anybody.
What are you saying?
That my friends are...
What are you saying?
It's what it looks like.
But even you're buying into some of it.
Oh, no.
I've always bought into this.
I've always bought into this.
I've always thought it was...
That's all part of the...
And, you know, I'm in the Berkeley area.
I mean, I see how this works.
works and you do have a bunch of addle brains usually kind of the dingbat phenomenon you run into in some of these socialist areas and they're the ones who are just like fish.
You hook them, you reel them in and they go along with it.
People are down deep, they're nice and oh you know I'm going to go do this and that.
And then one day you wake up and then you're learning how to beat your woman without leaving marks.
The problem is, and what's always overlooked in all this, is that there are a lot of radical Muslims that hate this.
Well, of course, of course.
They are westernized, they're all over the place, they run businesses, they know they're screwed.
If any of this stuff takes place, because they don't like it.
They left those countries, they're all over the place, and unfortunately they mingle with the other ones.
But if you start reading, I remember listening to these arguments, especially after 9-11, for a couple of years.
The problem, and you hear this, this is the diatribe that goes on.
The problem is that the moderate Muslims never stand up and speak out.
And they're letting this happen.
That's bullcrap.
If you go online and start looking for it, you'll find plenty of moderate Muslims that are doing nothing but speak out.
And they're moaning and groaning about it.
They get no support from the mainstream media or anybody else.
They get no credit.
And they're demonized as though they're not speaking out.
They are.
It's just that we don't hear their voices.
And that's what's really creepy.
Well, good point.
Well, it's all part of the pussification.
It's just like this bullying crap that we've been talking about for so long.
And you watch, somehow this will integrate.
Now I'm just, I got my eyes open.
It's like, okay, at what point do we connect bullying with, what was the word you used earlier?
You're bullying Islam.
Yeah, bullying Islam.
Stop bullying Islam.
It's going to be something like that.
There probably will be.
And boy, when they come up with this woman who got bullied on the bus.
Yeah, yeah.
They made hay with this, and then this woman apparently is going to walk off with about three quarters of a million dollars.
Yeah, and it's funny because I didn't see it.
I didn't see the reporting.
I saw it.
I saw it.
I watched the video.
Now, tell me about the video, because I didn't see it.
Did you actually see this bullying take place?
Yeah.
And what was the bullying like?
What were they saying to this woman?
It was that the woman was sitting by herself, and somebody started running a film on it.
And it was about three or four kids, mainly, that decided to start to harass her.
And she was just not paying any attention whatsoever.
And so they really started giving it to her to get her attention.
Hey, so what's your address?
Tell us what's your address so we can go over and pee on your door.
I want to shit on your porch.
I'm going to fuck you up.
And they would just go with these kids.
They were like mixed race kids, by the way.
And it was like they were just picking on her and picking on her.
And it went on and on and on for a really long time.
And she was in tears at one point.
And then they were chiding her.
Oh, you're a big baby.
You cry.
And look at she's crying, everybody.
And it was really pathetic.
And it was a huge indictment and overlooked in the entire story, which was this, you know, you can watch the videos around.
You can watch it.
It's not the greatest video.
You only get to see the kids for very brief periods.
But the real indictment is, this is the public school system.
This is what they're producing.
This is why that has to be overhauled, or people should homeschool.
Because that is the real indictment.
Not these kids.
These kids are completely out of control.
And their parents are obviously inept.
There should have been some big, giant kid who says, okay, stop it.
Right, yeah, exactly.
There's always an influencer in any crowd, but there were none.
They were all out of control.
It was horrifying to see how things deteriorate so easily in a modern school environment.
But the problem, of course, is instead of that being the dialogue and the discourse, it's about bullying.
Yeah.
In this case, bullying an old woman.
Right.
And then some guy in Canada starts a fund for her and it cranks up.
Wait a minute.
Wait a minute.
Hold on.
Think about it.
John, this is a new way for us to get donations.
Yeah, this would work.
We just need to get bullied.
We just need to get bullied more.
This is an excellent idea.
Hmm.
A new promotion.
Hmm.
Bully the old guy and the bicurious one.
Yeah, there you go.
But anyway, so that's all part of the same meta-dialogue that's going on, and none of it's good.
Yeah, we're screwed.
There's nothing we can do.
This is not...
Anyway, I went back and I listened to the Wes Clark 7 just to make sure.
We don't have to play the clip, but now I have an actual node in the show notes, an actual department, which I'm calling the Wes Clark 7.
This is General Wesley Clark, who right after 9-11 said, here's what we're doing.
Here's the ruling from the top from the State Department, Department of Defense.
We're going into Iraq, Iraq.
We're going to Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, and Iran.
And what pops up on the radar today?
Sudan on the brink of revolution.
Next domino to fall in Arab Spring.
So that's the next one to look out for.
Apparently, thousands of protesters have taken to the streets, no doubt incited by techno-experts from the State Department.
But again, if we could just get our crap together and understand what our so-called alirist leaders are trying to do, then we could combat that without bloodshed, I think.
This is what pisses me off.
Well, that's not in the cards.
Spoken like a true historian, Chauncey Dvorak.
That's not in the cards.
That's not going to happen.
Nah.
Nah.
Okay.
Well, good.
I got a little side thing here.
We can go to our donation segment or we can play this.
Just as a little side note, I think we're covering some good ground here, but there's one thing that got in the news, got a lot of play, apparently John Edwards' mistress, who, by the way, I think is very standoffish.
I don't care for her personality.
She's the documentarian?
Wasn't that what her...
I don't know.
She's a book writer or journalist.
I don't know.
But here's John Edwards' mistress, and I've got a comment on this.
Danielle writes that she expects people to judge her and her relationship with Edwards, but writes at its heart, this is a love story.
What is the future for you and John Edwards now?
That's a great question.
Right now, the kids are the priority.
That is not a great question.
How is that a great question?
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It's a dumb question.
There should be a jar where you have to put a hundred bucks in when you say that on television.
That's a great question.
And you got me.
That's like Rickrolling when you do that now.
Yeah, it is, isn't it?
Yeah, it is.
I'm going to show myself a little by donating to No Agenda.
Imagine all the people who could do that.
Oh yeah, that'd be fab.
Yeah, on No Agenda.
That's a great question!
In the morning.
So, we do have a few people to thank for today's episode 420.
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Oh, yes, I've been remiss on the bad acting segment.
Yeah, you have.
I'm moving to Portland, Oregon on Monday.
Portlandia, by the way, is what it's called.
I'm looking for some dual action karma.
This is not double karma, but a single shot that should deliver two things.
New experiment in karma should not be attempted by those with a heart condition.
I'm looking to get laid.
Cool roommate karma.
If it comes from the same person, all the better.
And for all those that screw up adding a note to their donation, as I have in the past, which address is the best to email?
Adam at curry.com.
The following can be admitted from the donation if needed, and it goes on.
So this is a dual-purpose karma for a roommate that puts out.
Let's see if we can help you out, buddy.
You've got...
Remember, we don't sell this stuff.
It's up to you.
It's the universe that provides, man.
The universe does its thing.
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Double nickels on the dime.
In the morning, I'm donating because the guilt of being such a massive boner has become unbearable.
When I was a poor law student, being a boner didn't weigh much on my conscience, but I've been a poor newly minted lawyer for six months now, and I cannot enjoy another episode without donating.
Unfortunately, I'm unable to give you the full value I receive from your show, but I'm giving what I can.
Double nickels on the dime for a D-douche huntsman karma for my new law practice.
I have a feeling the karma will instantly kick in, and when it does, more donations will follow.
Oops.
Sorry.
Sorry.
Here we go.
You've been de-douched.
You've got karma.
There you go.
That should fix it.
Uh, yeah, I hope.
Brandon Crisham in Las Cruces, New Mexico, 5420.
I'd like to send a special episode 420 karma to my wife.
Well, I guess that's, that is kind of, he did 5-4-20.
Yeah.
So that's, that counts.
I'll take that as a 420 donation.
Thank you.
You've got karma.
Oh, same for Jordan.
Oh, okay.
Jordan Cata in Sudbury, Ontario, 5420.
Happy 420th episode.
I'm a first-time donor with a rock-hard boner.
Whooped!
What?
Ha, ha, ha, ha.
Can I get a de-douching some karma and slide whistle for my smoking hot girlfriend?
Alright, you do the slide whistle, I'll do this.
You've been de-douched.
You've got karma.
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Marcus Svensson in Sweden sends the $50 saying from Gitmo Nation, envy and collapsing welfare state.
Can I have some good karma to counter the bad karma I acquire while working as a defense contractor?
Wow.
For sure.
You've got karma.
And we have Mike Bernstein in Bettendorf, Iowa, and Sir Paul Vela in Tauchester, Northampton, $50 each.
Jason in Overland Park, Kansas, $50 asking us, took Adam's plea for new donors to Hart and my commute the other day was $50 to help keep going through the summer.
A shot of karma for his wife would be fun.
Just got married in April and she turned me on to the show.
Oh, wow.
See, I tell you, the girls are doing it.
Nice.
I thought karma.
Sisters.
Sisters.
Sisters of Gitmo Nation.
I have one more $50 donation which came in person yesterday.
From your handlers?
No.
Stop you.
They're listening.
I'm going to have to lock myself in the studio after the show.
I'm too busy.
Post-production.
No, you may not remember, but on the Hot Pockets tour when we were in Nashville, Dave and Debbie Seldon came by, and remember we had all the crazy tinfoil hats, and Debbie had cooked up all these amazing, like, Rice Krispie treats and all the stuff with no agenda on it, you know, cookies.
Do you remember this?
Do you remember the pictures?
Yeah, oh yeah.
So, Deb was visiting her daughter, Corianne, who lives in Austin.
And, of course, most people know that after visiting the market on Saturday, we could be found at Halcyon drinking the bottomless mimosas.
And she stopped by, and it was great to see her.
And she and her husband Dave, and of course on behalf of her daughter Corianne, gave us $50 cash value for value.
And she cooked up some beautiful No Agenda, I'll put a picture of it in the show notes, No Agenda granola.
And she has these awesome pretzel sticks with chocolate and jimmies, you know, like little jimmies on them.
What we would call Hagelslag in Holland.
And it was really beautiful.
It was really nice to see her.
And so I wanted to give a shout out to her and Dave and Corianne and thank them for their value for value donation.
Johnny on the spot was really nice.
So, that should, I guess that'll be our group for today.
We want to thank all of them and all the people that donated less to us.
People come in with $20, $30 occasionally and they subscribe.
We would like to get more 12-12 subscribers or $11.11 subscribers, which I think is a good deal for them.
Now, the alternative, of course, is I can always, you know, to make up the difference in the slow months here during the summertime, I could do, I mean, I have another audition here for Subaru.
Cool.
Who's your agent?
He must be a great guy because I would have given up on you by now.
Well, I haven't seen something in a long time.
But from time to time, I just got a new one.
This is for Monday.
Let's see.
This is for Subaru.
It's a radio spot.
A national radio spot.
That could be good money.
I've gotten zero so far.
That's my batting average.
Zero for zero.
That's okay.
It all happens at once.
Okay, so this is a male voiceover, male 35 to 40, so I already don't fit the bill, but okay.
Grounded, doesn't get stressed by much, always finds humor in the day.
Please, a conversational read, you're not selling anything, just telling an amusing story to someone, as if you were pulled off the street into a documentary and asked about life and family and cars.
I love this direction.
How can I do that?
Well, this is basically your voice, and you're just thinking it's amusing.
You're going to tell me the story.
You're talking to me.
All right.
Okay, okay.
And you're telling me a story from your grounded perspective, which is a stretch, but that's beside the point.
And you think it's funny.
So underneath, as a subtext, you have to have a kind of a chuckle in your voice, but an amusing chuckle, but not a hilarious chuckle.
But I need some motivation then.
So if you've never heard this before, this is how we try to make some money on the side, and John will direct me in my audition here.
So in order to get into character, to have the chuckle, I think you need to do like a drunk thing or something just to get...
I mean, I could go over the guy with the toilet paper.
You have to kind of think back, like the toilet paper thing, or some of the funnier moments earlier on the show.
I'm just going to launch you into it.
You sound like you're in the mood now.
Go.
I'm supposed to be at work today, but it was one of those days that remind you just how short summer is.
So I took a personal day, packed up the Subaru, gave myself a little staycation.
I mean, who could work on a day like this?
When I pulled up to the beach, the one without any direct highway access, I parked as close to the water as I could without disturbing anything, took out my cell phone, and started snapping pictures.
That way, I'll have something to look at while I'm working all winter.
How was it?
What?
That was the copy?
Did I nail it?
Well, I think you did nail it, but I think the copy's weak.
Yeah, it sucks.
Well, then there's a voiceover at the end, which I don't have to do.
So the payoff is, I'll do the voice just so you know how the commercial will be when you hear it without me on it.
There's a lot of love about summer in Subaru.
Every vehicle gives you ready-for-anything versatility with a well-balanced Subaru boxer engine.
And during the Subaru A Lot to Love event, get a great deal on any new Subaru with symmetrical all-wheel drive now through August 31st.
So that's it.
Do you think I can get the gig with my read there?
I mean, it was pretty conversational.
I thought it was clean, but it was conversational.
It sounded right.
I'm just trying to think if that's really what they're looking for with that copy at the end where the guy's babbling on about the details of the car.
It seems to me that the guy is just...
I think the problem is...
What was the read time?
What are they expecting?
Because you may have read...
30 seconds.
30 seconds, yeah.
30 seconds?
Yeah, I think that...
You can rattle that thing off in 20.
Right.
So I have to do it slower?
Yeah, do it as kind of like you're still in a humorous mood, but you're a little stoned.
I was supposed to be at work today, but it was one of those days that remind you just how short summer is.
So I took a personal day, packed up the Subaru, gave myself a little staycation.
I mean, who could work on a day like this?
When I pulled up to that beach, the one without any direct highway access, I parked as close to the water as I could without disturbing anything, took out my cell phone, started snapping pictures.
That way I'll have something to look at while I'm working all winter.
You know, I'm thinking about this.
I think you nailed...
I think you dropped a line, by the way, but I think you nailed the idea, except the very end.
I want you to do a cut-in.
Okay.
And just do the end as...
Why don't you do the end as, like, this was the exciting moment of your summer, and you're a little remorseful that all you're going to have are these pictures.
Uh-huh.
So he has to have a little humorous remorse about the pictures.
Okay.
That way, I'll have something to look at while I'm working all winter.
Like that?
No, I wasn't convinced.
I think a sigh would be good.
Okay.
Okay.
I got it, I got it, I got it.
Quiet in the booth.
I would go like this.
At least I'll have something to look at all winter.
At least I'll have something to look at while I'm working all winter.
Yeah, I think that's...
Cut that in.
I think you may have it.
Ding.
Okay, great.
Nailed it.
So, if you don't want to listen to this...
It's obvious, I think.
We need all the help that we can get.
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We only got one on the list today.
Matt Coghling congratulates himself turning 27.
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I think that was 18 years ago, but we got it figured out.
It was a while.
There's mine, if you could just pull out your Swiss Army blade there.
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Keep us going because this is value for value.
There's absolutely no other way that we could make money.
And by the way, screw the Obama campaign.
Stealing our ideas.
Did you see this?
No.
Oh, yeah.
So, to get money, here's the thing here.
Was it Obama for America?
BarackObama.com.
Instead of another gift card you'll forget to use, ask your friends and family for something that will go a little further.
A donation to Obama for America.
Register your next celebration, whether it's a birthday, bar, or bat mitzvah, wedding, or anniversary, with the Obama campaign.
So they have an event registry.
You know, so essentially you're going to a wedding and the people pick up and...
I love you.
Here's an electric toothbrush and they pull out an envelope and it says, we've given our money that was going to go to your wedding to Obama.
I'd be like, I'm throwing you out, bitch.
You crazy.
Yeah, that's not fun.
Well, whatever.
Whatever.
So there's this video that has now come out, which throws back to something that we had kind of discussed, I don't know, a couple months ago, I guess.
It's called Dreams from My Real Father.
Have you heard about this?
No.
This is fantastic.
So this guy...
It already sounds good.
Oh, yeah.
His name is Joel...
I don't know what his name is.
I have it here.
It's obamasrealfather.com is where you can find it.
Joel Gilbert directed this, and his assertion is what we had already talked about, that Obama's real father is Frank Marshall Davis.
He looks like him.
The mom was hanging out with him before the baby.
Doing naked pictures.
Everything adds up to this guy being the real dad.
And he apparently wasn't interested in getting that credit because of, I think, whatever he was doing.
I don't know if he was married.
I can't remember.
Yeah, so I've ordered the DVD, of course, because I have to see this.
The trailer is really funny because they keep freeze-framing Obama's face and then putting Frank Marshall Davis next to him, and it's like dead ringer.
I mean, dead ringer.
It is so scary.
And, of course, what's interesting about this is that means that the entire birther issue and, you know, he's not an American is in one fell swoop, is debunked, and the cover-up, of course, is always what the problem is.
And, of course, Obama is a natural-born citizen.
He is an American, but his father is Frank Marshall Davis, who I think was pretty much a communist.
Yeah, he's a communist, and the bullcrap stories, including the Obama nonsense that he was sold and his agent had that he was born in Kenya, was all part of a scam to sell books, which he sold a lot of.
He even became president to sell more books.
He's actually, he's probably really a book writer.
Or someone is.
He must have liked writing.
It was a good scam.
But how awesome is that?
It's amazing.
I like this.
I like it too.
I think it's fantastic.
Just looking at the trailer, Frank Marshall Davis wrote for the Hawaiian newspaper, which of course also had the birth announcement.
There's all this crazy stuff in this.
This is fantastic.
I'm so excited about seeing this video.
This is a really really good one.
So when I heard that, I was like, oh my god, this is exactly what we talked about.
I don't know who this Joel Gray guy is, but props to him.
That's a good one.
Joel Gray?
Not Joel Gray.
Joel Gilbert.
I'm sorry.
Joel Gilbert.
One of our producers sent in this thing.
I'm trying to decide what to do with it.
I'm thinking maybe I can get a hold of...
Who's the company that makes the Global Hawk?
Northrop Grumman.
Maybe I can just get a box of these.
But they came out with a comic book.
Oh, really?
Yeah, it's called Global Hawk Endless Possibilities.
Wait a minute.
Global...
Global Hawk Endless...
Do you have a website for that?
No.
You have to go to Northrop Grumman.
I think you can probably get a box of these things, and maybe I'm thinking of sending them out with a mailing, or I'll scan some of it and put it in the upcoming newsletter.
I'll try to scan a couple pages so you get a kick out of it.
So what are some of the endless possibilities that we can use the Global Hawk drone for?
Well, let me go to the end of the story.
A daughter and her brother, a younger brother, who are at an air show.
And he's taking photos and she's trying to babysit him.
And then they find the Global Hawk, which is in a big pin.
The thing is huge.
And they realize that that's what their dad is working on.
He's one of the Global Hawk guys.
The dad is wearing, he's a douchebag looking guy.
He's got that little goatee-ish looking thing, douchey looking face.
And then he's got the Global Hawk patch on his arm and a Grateful Dead patch.
I thought it was bizarre.
Okay.
And, you know, Grateful Dead, ha ha.
So anyway, so the dad comes up at the show afterwards.
For some reason, he shows up.
And they start discussing it.
And they read a couple of the dialogue.
The kid says, neat.
The cool thing, the dad says, the cool thing about the Global Hawk is that it's a surveillance plane.
So it can be used for more than just combat.
Oh, my God.
Really?
That's hilarious.
That's new news.
And the California wildfires a few years ago.
The girl says, that's amazing.
Do you think it helps save people's lives?
The dad says, indeed, Amelia.
Of course.
It does help save lives in combat and during disasters.
She says, wow.
And then the kid says, ooh, check out this pamphlet.
These are the photos of, kinds of photos taken.
Look, Amelia, I can see our house from here.
Wow.
We've been goofing around you.
You know, Amelia, the program's only getting bigger.
We're expanding to NATO, Eurohawk, and BAMS for the Navy.
Wow.
You might want to give some thought to your future there.
Could be a career in this waiting for you.
Oh, yeah, of course.
You could be a drone pilot.
The little kid says, hey, why do you want her to work on the Global Hawk?
What about me?
I want to work on a cool, unmanned plane, too.
Oh, man!
Dad says, because by the time you get old enough, who knows what's going to be out there?
Yeah, it's going to be a bonanza!
And then the girl says, this is wrapping up.
Then the girl says, yeah, Tyler, if Global Hawk is what we have right now for the future, the possibilities are endless.
Oops.
Lovely.
That's great.
That is awesome.
It's a winner.
Global Hawk for the win.
My goodness.
Yeah, I'm looking at this officiere.ch.
They've got some of the pictures.
Wow.
Oh, man.
Yeah.
I'm speechless.
We need more Defense Department comic books.
Yeah, that's really good.
When I was a kid, I do remember, I wish I had it.
I remember a book that came out from General Electric, Extolling the Virtues of Nuclear Power, and I think it was done by Disney.
Sure.
And it had Mickey and everybody in there, and they were talking about the great.
And this was, I think this was like in the...
Late, the book came out, I think the comic book came out in like the 57 or something, some early, mid-50s.
And somehow I had a copy of it.
And unfortunately, I still might have the copy, but who knows?
Yeah, it's underneath your tax returns.
It's somewhere.
But that's a collectible.
But I'm starting to think that these are all very collectible.
I'll try to get a few.
Yeah, we need to get these.
We need to get these comic books.
Yeah.
Those are fantastic.
Well, you know, it's all for education of the children.
It's very good.
This is the way to...
I mean, you could...
By the way, if the Curry DeVore Consulting Group were asked, this is what we would have recommended.
You want to get the kids on board?
You got the comic book, and then you got to have the action figure, and then you got to have the video game.
I would have probably vetoed or nixed the Grateful Dead patch.
Yeah, that's a stretch.
On the dad.
That's a bit of a stretch.
So art's in the news.
Who?
Art.
You know, art, like fine art.
Oh, yeah, like the stuff that...
There's a big celebration going on in Munich that is not being covered by the American media, probably because they can't even show the pictures, but we're talking about one of these nude things.
Oh, awesome.
Naked chicks.
Finally, they're taking their clothes off and getting covered in red and gold paint, all for the sake of art.
Over a thousand people took part in a human installation created by New York artist Spencer Tunick.
Tunick was invited to create a new piece to kick off Munich's summer opera season, while the participants posed outside of Munich's opera house, recreating scenes from a Richard Wagner opera.
Oh, Ride of the Valkyries!
No, that's the other Wagner.
Richard's different.
Really?
Crap.
They showed it.
There's about a thousand or more people.
I'm looking at pictures right now.
Absolutely nude.
Some nice breasts, I might add.
Oh, wow.
A big fat butt, but you know, you get what you get.
Hey, but this is pretty freaky.
Some of them are painted, the middle layer is red?
Yeah.
Wow.
Wow.
It's something that would not be even allowed in the United States.
Oh, no.
No, you can't have that.
Meanwhile, in another anti-Muslim push...
There's dudes in there, too, by the way.
Yeah, no, there's a lot of dudes.
Like half-dudes.
Half-nude dudes.
And if you see a dude right behind somebody else and the person in the front has got their eyes bugged open, you know the reason why.
John, you're such a homophobe.
What's a homophobe about it?
So anyway, so in Tunisia, meanwhile, they had an art gallery burned to the ground.
They showed these artworks.
They were lame.
Nothing artworks.
But now they've had a fatwa and they want to kill all the artists and kill basically all artists in Tunisia.
And as the story wraps up after these women explained, they were essentially insulting the males with their lechery.
And so now they want to kill all the artists in Tunisia.
And this is another anti-Muslim push, but it's a very funny story you want to play.
Last day prayer, a religious leader at Zituna mosque called for all, all artists, to be slaughtered without exception.
It's shocking.
We met up with an imam at Zituna, one of the main mosques in Tunis.
Authorities have threatened to have him dismissed for calling for the killing of artists.
I only explain what the Quran is saying.
They should be on trial for blasphemy and offending what is sacred.
According to the Quran, those who abandon religion should be killed.
But this sentencing cannot be done by anyone.
It should be done by the country's government.
And Sheikh Labidi is not alone.
Many of his followers support his position, no matter how extreme.
I say red alert.
Pay attention to what they're saying.
By the way, Spencer Tunick with ck.com.
This guy has done this all over the world.
He's amazing.
I see Mexico City.
Oh, the nude guy?
Yeah, Mexico City.
Everywhere but USA. Yeah, of course.
Because it would be blasphemy.
But he could do it in Austin.
In Austin, we like our people naked.
Wow, this thing in Mexico where he's put a whole...
I mean, there's like thousands of people.
I guess it's not shopped.
I guess he really got all these people to do this.
They're all laying down.
It's like there's sand.
It's pretty cool.
My goodness.
Well, Miss Mickey does all the nude stuff, too.
Well, there you have it.
She'd be part of it.
Part of what?
Whatever.
Just keep an eye on her.
Make sure her eyes don't bug out.
Part of what, man?
So, let me just bump in here with a little bit of pharma crap.
So we've been following, this actually was happening in Gitmo Nation Lowlands in the Netherlands, where these scientists, you know, had the recipe, they had the secret formula on how to mutate the bird flu, to weaponize it, to create H15N3294, and they didn't want to publish this, and this can't be published because, you know, terrorists will get a hold of it and they'll kill us, they'll kill us, I tell you.
Well, they released it.
Let me just check.
Are you dead yet?
No, not yet.
I'm not dead yet either.
Here's the CNNs talking about this release, and then there's a little funny bit that goes along with it.
Now a story that could affect people all over the world.
That's you and me, John.
All over the world.
A controversial academic paper has been published and it describes how the deadly bird flu virus could easily be spread among people.
The scientific advisory board has suggested that some of the data actually be censored from this paper.
Did you hear her laughing?
But then later reversed its warning.
If it fell into the wrong hands, it could certainly turn into a deadly biological weapon.
Elizabeth Cohen joins us now live from Atlanta.
So what is going on here, and how is this going to end up?
Are we going to get the information?
Is it already out there anyway?
And I hate to say, is this all academic, but what is the story?
Oh, I made it funny.
Ashley, it's out there.
It's now in the journal Science, which is a widely disseminated journal.
You and I and everyone else can go online and basically read how you can make a super deadly version of the bird flu virus.
I mean, it's right there, and that obviously has a lot of people concerned because then it could possibly fall into the wrong hands.
Yes, of course, if it falls in the wrong hands, the instructions are there.
All you have to do is take some bird flu and some super deadly, and you've got a super deadly bird virus.
It's fantastic.
Now, of course, these two douche baguettes, and you've got to see this video because these women are dressed in gold and Gucci and the hip glasses.
They're just reading scripts.
That's all they're doing.
And she gives it away what this is all about.
But the NIH basically decided, you know what, go ahead and do the whole thing.
And there were kind of two reasons behind that.
What could the two reasons be about giving away the whole thing?
They could fall into the wrong hands, John.
What could the two reasons be?
For giving it away?
Yeah, for just putting it out there.
It could fall into the wrong hands.
Because they probably already have a vaccine and they're ready to give the vaccine out to everybody.
But here are the two big ones.
One, you want legitimate scientists to see this information because you want good scientists around the world to be on the lookout for this bug and to know what they're looking for.
Two, you want good scientists to develop a vaccine so that if this does happen, we'll have a vaccine ready to fight it.
It's the good scientists!
And they're making a vaccine!
Yeah.
Now, believe me, what do you give this, six months before we have to go to Walgreens and get our good scientist vaccine?
You know, I wonder...
I would make the prediction that this is never going to materialize.
Well, someone...
I mean, someone's going to pick it up.
I mean, right now, if you could propagate this, like, bad scientists have put this out, and wrong hand, bad scientists in the wrong hands are going to make this...
It's going to kill you.
Well, if it happens, it'll be coming out of Iran, for sure.
Of course.
Of course.
For sure.
I'm trying to...
I'm on the site right now.
Science and sciencemag.org.
And I can't find it.
I mean, they talk a lot about the paper.
No, no, no.
You've got to buy it.
It's really expensive.
Well, wait a minute.
That's not what the two douchebags said.
Well, no, but they're just reading the script.
They said anyone can just go online and figure this out.
It's a no-brainer.
No-brainer.
Just like a nuclear bomb.
Anyone can make it.
And you know, by the way, I think that the thing is a red herring for...
I think, you know, this is bull crap.
This whole story is bogus.
They didn't design anything.
If they did, they didn't put the actual details in the report.
They just wouldn't do it.
This is just to sell copies of the report.
This is bogus.
Yeah, well, I'm thinking that...
Well, we've got to pay attention.
It depends, you know.
But if they can ratchet it up enough so enough people are talking about it, then you watch, we'll have the good scientist vaccine.
Well, we'll see.
I just love the whole simplicity.
You've got the bad scientist and the good scientist.
Of course.
It's always the way it's been.
It's science.
Science!
So, um, I was following this NatWest thing in the UK. Tell me about it.
Well, let me have some douchebag tell you about it.
It's one of the most serious technical failures in high street banking.
It's affected millions of customers.
And today, it's left many of them unable to get their hands on their money.
So this was NatWest, a huge retail banking chain in Gitmo Nation East.
And they said that they had a software glitch in an upgrade.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I know this story.
Go on.
Okay, well, listen to the severity of it.
Electric, gas, food to buy, and you need your money out of the bank, and they're not willing to give it out, even though you know it's there.
By the way, there's a heart-wrenching story they bring into this.
This is really a problem for me, because I have to pay my rent, so it's not an easy thing.
Ah, your friend, who cares?
Helpful banking means...
Knowing your account balance before you got overdrawn.
The problems began after a software upgrade to the system that processes payments.
Transactions no longer were going in or out of customer accounts.
Here at this convenience store in Belfast, workers didn't get their wages today.
None of them got paid today, so we have to now try and put plans in place to make sure that they have enough money to pay their bills.
Paul Foster in Birmingham is also waiting for his wages.
He and his partner, Amy, recently lost their baby.
How bad can you make it?
They'd hoped to pay for her headstone.
I was heartbroken.
Is this horrible?
Please!
Is this horrible or what?
I wanted to look at a bank balance online and see it's staying zero because that money was something very important.
And they bring on some douchebag who says what happened.
So when I hear this report, I'm like, okay, now they've gone too far.
So they're trying to show the severity of the banking system turnoff.
So there's a couple of possibilities.
One, well, the Occam's razor, of course, is really they screwed up this upgrade and people might be able to get their money today.
So this has already been like almost four days now.
So, it's possible.
It's absolutely possible.
I doubt it highly, but okay.
It could be a drill to see how people respond and how they react for when we need to have a bank holiday or if there is some actual problem with the entire financial system.
I like this one.
That's kind of what I'm leaning towards.
And then maybe there is an actual problem.
With Nat West.
I think there's the second possibility.
I like the drill idea because that's a distinct possibility.
Well, when I heard the report, that's why I thought drill.
Because, you know, they're like, oh, this is so horrible.
A lot of people, the baby's headstone.
I mean, come on, they can wait four days.
The other possibility is that the bank has been hit and it was wiped out by some criminals.
That's, you know, and that's very, listen to the, this is one of those IT women who, by the way, throughout the whole monologue doesn't blink once and she's got these eyes bugging out.
It's kind of freaky.
We're going to be able to get this head started now for another week.
Horrible story.
It just delays the process of fucking our daughter to rest.
Right.
The company's website is flooded with complaints and after three days, this banking group still can't...
By the way, the complaints as they're rolling by, it's like, in typical Brits, it's like, I'm so disappointed.
Right.
Flooded with complaints.
Say for certain, the system's been put right.
We believe we've fixed the underlying problem, and we now are just waiting for all of the systems to update.
But clearly you'll understand that until it's absolutely perfect, we're not going to come out with a statement to say it's fixed.
We're continuing to focus on this.
We know we need to get it right as quickly as possible for our customers, and all our efforts are focused on that.
It sounds like she was just shoved out there with the script.
Well, the way normally you run these upgrades is you do parallel processing on the same database and then you just don't flip the switch out of the blue untested.
I don't know.
The story is fishy.
I'd like to talk to some bank IT guys who have upgraded their software.
Well, guaranteed we've got a ton of them listening to the show.
And they'll know.
They can write us and tell us.
Tell us why.
Here's what we're asking for.
A memo to the two of us.
Explaining to us why you think the story might be bogus.
It's an essay.
And you will be graded.
You will be graded.
We'll read the best, most believable of the...
We won't use your name if you don't want, but probably you don't want.
But put your...
Give us your bona fides so we know that you're not just ad-libbing something because you took a course in computer science.
Let me throw another thing out there.
Could this be a virus in the wild?
Could it be a Stuxnet flamer type thing?
Yeah, or flamer.
Could it be a flamer type thing?
Well, you don't know, right?
You don't know.
But I am really not buying the, sorry the upgrade failed.
I mean, when you do an upgrade, if you don't upgrade your live machines...
You know?
Smells bad.
The story stinks.
So, you know, we don't know.
But I know we have banking sysadmins in the audience.
I know they're listening.
And they may just be rolling their eyes.
But we would love to know.
We'd love to see your essay.
It will reveal the truth, or at least the possible truth, that the mainstream media won't touch.
No, of course not.
It's too technical.
It's too technical for the audience.
We don't know what's going on, really.
It's interesting.
I'm looking at today's New York Times.
Oh, no.
And I guess we touched on this before.
Now I'm going to go revisit it.
How that Good Morning America show on ABC is now dominating the morning ratings.
And so Ann Curry, one of the...
Very pleasant anchors on the Today Show is quitting, thinking she may be part of the problem.
Part of the problem is that ABC has gone to an all-entertainment gossip.
Morning show where all they do is gossip about the entertainers.
That's why it's top of the bill.
That's why it's doing so well.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So they became bottom feeders and the Today Show should just stick it out because at some point, well, I mean, you're going to lose those people anyway unless you want to just sink to that lowest common denominator.
ABC should be ashamed of itself, but they're owned by Disney.
It's a huge, you know, entertainment conglomerate company.
Yeah.
Well, I mean, so, you know, this is why we, you and I, John, are in a growth industry.
Watch us bounding forward.
Because, you know, people have to resort to podcasts to get their information.
Because you're not going to get it from this.
And I would like to point out that their original broadcast license, which of course is becoming a moot point now that everything is on cable and it's basically privately licensed.
You don't need a government license to be ABC anymore.
It's supposed to be partially for the public good.
That's why you got your licenses in the first place.
Yeah, that was all killed off by Reagan and Clinton and everybody.
Yeah.
Yeah, and of course ABC News is compromised, as we know.
But this is what CNN is trying.
They're trying the same thing.
They've got what Ms.
Mickey calls Mommy News, which is, of course, not a good...
I don't agree with the term, but...
CNN is doing it poorly.
I mean, they had Joy Behar, who had some audience because she did nothing but celebrity stuff and then political crap.
And, you know, she's taking a gig over at Current.
Really?
Yeah.
Well, everyone's on that tip, man.
Everyone's on the tip of, hey, let's more celebrity.
El Gore tit.
Tip, I said.
Not tit, tip.
Oh, and I said El Gore tit.
Yeah, the same thing.
So everyone's just trying to, you know, it's like, look, the game is about ratings at the end of the day.
And that's not our game.
Our game is about just getting by.
By the way, I'd just like to say that Mayor Bloomberg, I mean, now we've had the war on weed, the war on chicken, we've had the war on salt, the war on sugar, and now we have an actual war on hookers.
Mayor Bloomberg signed legislation which creates a fine of up to $10,000 for cab drivers who are convicted of abetting or organizing prostitution by transporting hookers.
So the law includes a requirement that all city cab drivers And livery drivers attend a training course intended to help them identify the signs of a potential sex trafficking operation, i.e.
you can't dress sexy anymore in New York, because then you won't get a cab.
New York is about hookers.
Thank you.
I know.
Do they want to ruin the economy of New York now?
Idiot.
New York's always been about hookers.
I remember when Willie Mays was on some talk show years ago, the great baseball player in San Francisco, he would say, oh, how do you like New York?
I love New York.
He says, you can always get a suit that fits.
Yeah, that's code, right?
It was.
Everyone knew it.
Yeah.
All right, I have one last thing, and then we'll wrap up for today.
And this came from Democracy Now!, which surprised me.
I don't like the outfit.
Yeah, I don't like the outfit.
And they don't like reporting on this story either, I'll tell you.
This is about the TPP. The Transatlantic...
I'm sorry, what is it called?
The Trans-Pacific Partnership, the TPP. Oh, right, right, right.
So what happened is...
Now, this is where it always gets suspicious, but I will say that particularly when they're reporting on things against the Obama administration, and they do it with such chagrin that you've got to think that this is real.
Yeah, I love watching this.
Yeah, that is real.
So June 12th, I'm just reading from the setup here, leaked copy of the investment chapter for the TPP, the Trans-Pacific Partnership, was made public.
The copy was analyzed by Public Citizens Global Trade Watch, who knows what they're all about, and has been verified as authentic.
So this is a, we know that this has been going on.
This is a secret agreement along the lines of ACTA. Now, of course, ACTA has failed because the European Union decided not to ratify it and said go away.
And it looks like this was under the covers.
And just listen to this brief report.
Just two minutes.
You can look at the video.
The whole report is like 20 minutes.
And well worth the watch, I'd have to say.
If not just to see Amy Goodman looking real sour about it.
Turn now to a controversial trade pact between the United States and eight Pacific nations that until now has remained largely secret.
It's called the Trans-Pacific Partnership, or TPP. A chapter from the draft agreement, leaked Wednesday, outlines how it would allow foreign corporations operating in the United States to appeal key regulations to an international tribunal.
The body would have the power to override U.S. law and issue penalties for failure to comply with its rulings.
The agreement is being negotiated by the U.S. Trade Representative Ron Kirk, appointed by President Obama, but the newly revealed terms contradict promises Obama made while running for president in 2008.
One campaign document read in part, quote, we will not negotiate bilateral trade agreements that stop the government from protecting the environment, food, safety, or the health of its citizens, or give greater rights to foreign investors than to U.S. investors.
Earlier leaks from the draft Trans-Pacific Partnership Agreement exposed how it included rules that could increase the cost of medication and make participating countries adopt restrictive copyright measures.
No one from the U.S. Trade Representative's office was able to join us, but in a statement to Democracy Now!
they said, quote, nothing in our TPP investment proposal could impair our government's ability to pursue legitimate, non-discriminatory public interest regulation.
For more, we're joined by Laurie Wallach, director of the Fair Trade Group, Public Citizens Global Trade Watch.
The leaked documents were posted on her organization's website early Wednesday morning.
Laurie, welcome to Democracy Now!
Explain what the documents show and what this agreement is about.
Well, it's been branded as a trade agreement, but really it is enforceable corporate global governance.
The agreement requires that every signatory country conform all of its laws, regulations, and administrative procedures to what are 26 chapters of very comprehensive rules, only two of which have anything to do with trade.
So it's the new world order.
Only two have anything to do with trade.
How beautiful is this?
I can't wait to read this.
I'm very excited because, you know, I'm a government legislation analyst.
I'm very excited about this.
This is awesome.
Yeah, this is awesome.
This is classic.
So the first round of negotiations was in Melbourne, and then San Francisco, then Brunei, and then Auckland, and then Santiago, Chile, then Singapore, then Ho Chi Minh City, also known as Saigon.
So they're in on the deal.
Chicago, Lima, Peru, Kuala Lumpur, which is a party town.
Melbourne again.
And then Dallas, your neck of the woods on May 8th.
And then July 2nd to 10th, they're going to have another 13th round, probably the last round in San Diego.
Where are the protesters?
Now, how bitching is this, man?
Well, here's what I commit.
I'll dive into all the legislation for Thursday's show.
This will be my mission, because this is big, obviously.
So, if you've got anything out there, send it to me.
By the way, for the sysadmins, and I already see emails coming in, you can use encryption with my email.
My public key is readily available so you can encrypt anything you send and you'll be kind of protected.
So what are you going to do before Thursday's show?
I am going to dig deeper into some really obscure European news shows.
I'm listening to the Van Cat thing a lot.
Yeah.
Get some French perspective.
I'm also looking at it.
There's a show called Euromax, which has the exact girl you want on Russia Today.
Awesome.
Except she's not blonde.
Well, we can bleach her.
But she's still very, very fantastic.
Bleach her.
And...
From now on, I'm not listening to our news at all anymore.
All right, everybody.
We have a No Agenda Producer update coming up on the stream right after the program.
And looking forward to bringing you all of this and more on Thursday's show.
And here in the capital of the drone star state in the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
From northern Silicon Valley, where there's not a lot going on, but the weather's nice.
I'm John C. Dvorak.
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