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John, how come you're not wearing your hazmat suit?
I'm dead.
Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak.
It's Sunday, March 11, 2012.
Time to get Monation Media Assassination, Episode 390.
This is No Agenda.
I'm not letting go of my stolen hour here at Camp MoFo in the capital of the drone star state, Austin, Texas.
In the morning, everybody.
I'm Adam Curry.
And from northern Silicon Valley, where we ask the question, what's with this weather?
I'm John C. Dvorak.
What kind of weather do you have?
Looks like it's going to rain.
Oh, man.
You know, South by Southwest started, and we had had a beautiful week, and the minute everyone came into town, thunder, lightning, nonstop rain.
It brought it with them.
Nonstop rain, I tell you.
And actually, I feel kind of sad.
You feel sad for the South by Southwest crowd that can afford to essentially gallivant over to Austin to party?
No.
I feel sad because I know that rain means less money for the city of Austin.
Yeah, and so yesterday we went to...
Sure, it doesn't mean more money because they have to go to the bars and drink more?
I don't think so.
I think that when...
Because they're in the bar.
Everything happens in the bar.
Everyone, every company has a deal with the bar.
And like the bar Maggie Mays.
I mean, they've got like five parties.
So they've split it up, and they have CNET two days, and they got the Dutch, it'll be the Dutch house.
And so, you know, they're really, really smart.
And by the way, you just walk in, and they're like, hey, how you doing?
You here for, yeah, I'm here for, yeah, that's it, yeah.
Just sign in.
So just sign in, like, I am Dan from dildosrus.com.
Just sign with some fictitious name.
And it's free drinks.
I was signing as D-Duck.
D-Uck.
And it's free drinks.
You know, it's great.
Everything's paid for.
It's really fantastic.
It's the American way.
Socialism for the rich, free enterprise for the poor.
So we went to the Austin Market on 4th.
Which was very small, A, because whenever it rains, when it's really bad weather, then less guys come in.
Some people drive 100 miles to sell their stuff there.
And of course, there was a lot less parking because some of these parking lots have been rented out for, you know, I know companies like GE with their GE imagination stuff.
Who cares?
It's all money for the city.
I'm happy.
And I park and normally the parking system here is you park your car and then there's a cabinet on a stick and it has slots.
And you look at the number you're parked in, and then you literally fold up dollar bills in the amount of six and shove them into the slot.
And so each dollar bill, you push the previous bill into the slot, and at the end, you've got your last dollar in there.
There's a little thing hanging on a cord, and it's like a piece of metal, like a shiv.
And you push the last dollar in.
That's how we pay for our parking here.
And it's six bucks for a whole day.
Now, all of a sudden, there's a dude there charging 20.
I'm like, what is this?
You're like, South by Southwest, brother!
I'm like, okay.
And then you go sit at Halsey and, you know, have a nice cup of coffee.
And I was like, hey, would you like some free coconut milk?
No.
No, please keep on walking.
Hey, man, you know, sign up to Bellycard.
Here, I got my iPad right here.
Sign up.
It's just like you get accosted continuously.
I wanted a sticker that says I live here.
Leave me alone.
That I could probably sell, yeah.
I live here.
I live here.
Just leave me alone.
But we recognize each other.
So did you go to any of the events?
It sounds like you went to at least a couple.
No, not really.
Well, Miss Molly Wood is here, as you know, and she came by.
And so yesterday we went to see her.
She was at, what was the bar?
The Thirsty Nickel, I think.
The Thirsty Nickel?
Yeah, the Thirsty Nickel.
Wow.
Yeah, on 6th Street, which is Clean 6.
See, Dirty 6 is where I'd normally hang out.
That's the other side of 6th Street, like way other side.
And, yeah, just a whole bunch of dudes.
And it's funny how people wear their cowboy boots because they're coming to Texas.
Yeah.
We don't actually wear that a lot in Austin, just so you know.
You're not like blending in.
Blending in with cowboy boots.
With your alligator cowboy boots.
That's for Fort Worth, you people!
I guess the bar had been paid for by Second Market.
Are you familiar with this company?
You should be.
If you named 25 of the companies that are doing stuff, I wouldn't know 22 of them.
You'd know these guys.
Three of them I'd only kind of heard of.
And then if you went back next year and named the same 25, I'd have heard of them all because they would all be out of business.
Well, Second Market is the company that buys or trades...
Restricted stock of private companies and they became well known because they are the guys that started trading in the Facebook stock.
Forcing them to go public or else.
Yeah, and it was kind of weird, you know, because then the CEO gets up, and he has a flower point on the wall, and he's like, hey, are we all excited?
I'm like, huh, what?
Yeah, free drinks, yeah, we like that.
And he starts going through his whole spiel, and he was dropping an F-bomb every other sentence.
Ah, he's a cusser.
Yeah, which, you know, in our show, we drop them from time to time when appropriate.
But this is not appropriate.
It's like, it's...
Yeah, he's a guy who's selling stocks.
He's trying to sound like a truck driver or a gangster or a mobster.
It doesn't make me have any confidence in his company.
I think he was trying to sound hip.
And then he's...
There's nothing hip about cussing.
No.
Well, he's trying to make a point, and he's saying, does anyone here know what high-frequency trading is?
And his point is going to be that the stock market doesn't care about you if you go public, and that your stock is basically, 60% of all stock is traded by computers.
And so he's like, hey, does anyone know?
So he has to get into this whole thing of telling you why it's great to work with them.
And I'm standing way at the back.
And he's like, did anyone know what high frequency trading is?
And it's like crickets.
Really?
Nobody in the audience knew what it was?
Well, then I yelled out from the back.
Or they didn't bother to raise their hands.
I yelled out from the back, it's a scam!
Were you talking about high frequency trading or second market?
Yes.
And he said, yes, well, let's look at a more technical explanation.
I'm like, okay, whatever.
So anyway, so tonight there's...
So you're just there to kibitz and heckle.
Yes, heckle.
That's what I'm here for.
Exactly.
And then, I guess tonight, we're actually going to...
Because, you know, this thing doesn't stop, right?
I think after...
It lasts for about two and a half months.
Exactly.
I think after Tuesday, that's when the music part is...
And I'm kind of interested in that, so, you know, it is kind of cool.
There's lots of...
There's lots of local musicians who are playing for free all over the place.
That night, we wound up at some party thrown by a Russian girl.
But this is like real Austin.
A Russian girl?
Yeah, there's a huge Russian and Polish contingent in Austin.
And they're interesting.
It's like a guy comes up to me.
Like a little mousy guy with like a 70s zoot suit on.
He's like, hello.
Hey, hey, you.
I like your hair.
My name is Johnny Feelgood.
I'm an artist and I make movies.
Like, yes!
I'm in the right town, Johnny Feelgood.
Look at his website, jfeelgood.com.
Is that actually there?
Yeah, yeah.
I'm Johnny Feelgood.
He's cool.
These are the real dudes.
Anyway, so tonight I think we are going to hook up with Molly.
We're going to check out the CNET party because we've been invited.
And I've also been invited to the Rackspace party, which is right across the street.
We're not partiers.
The fine art of Johnny Feelgood.
Johnny Feelgood kicks it, man.
He makes interesting art, actually.
I like what he does.
Yeah.
Buy some, then.
Maybe.
Anyway, in the morning to you, John C. Dvorak.
In the morning to you, Adam Curry and all the ships at sea and boots on the ground and feet in the air from doors in Silicon Valley.
Yes, and in the morning to all of our live stream listeners, human resources they are, all of them, every single one of them, and they're in this chat room at noagendachat.net, noagendastream.com.
Good to see you guys there, all charged up and ready to go.
And, of course, this morning I awoke with the feeling that the apocalypse had descended upon us as it was dark.
I'm like, okay, that's it.
The sun will not rise today.
And, of course, this is because we lost an hour for no apparent good reason.
And we discuss this twice a year, at least every year.
And it still makes me mad.
What's interesting to me is that...
Hold on a second.
Oh, I changed it.
My XP machine that I do the show on refused...
It apparently never got the right update or something.
It refused to jump ahead.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
What operating system are you running?
The Vista machine, which I ride on, which is a different computer, it jumped ahead no problem.
So I was disconcerned by that.
But what operating system are you running on the Bogative machine?
The Boeing machine is XP. But what operating system?
Windows XP. Okay.
Sorry.
You'd think it'd be more an operating system thing than a...
Yeah, it would be the operating system.
Yeah.
That's what it is.
Somehow XP didn't get the word.
Because they changed it, you know, last year, if you remember.
Yeah, I know.
They change it all the time.
And why, John?
Why?
Let's move the date up a week.
Yeah, let's just do that.
Why?
Really, why?
Why?
Because we can.
Because we can.
So I remain of the opinion that this is only good for one thing and one thing only, is just to get us all to do something together.
It's a training exercise.
Look at that.
Look at what I can make him do now.
Stupid idiots.
I'll make them change their clocks.
Who is this person that you're supposed to be?
This is a cross between Kissinger and Brzezinski.
Kissinger was on Fareed Zakari.
He sounds more like Hillary.
Kissinger, he's really...
He's really...
He's really good.
Farid, it is very good to be here on your show as always.
Is that possible?
Yes, yes.
Iranians are no good.
That was his message.
That's highly entertaining to everybody listening in.
Yeah, exactly.
I am very happy though, John.
I feel that we appropriately and properly equipped...
Our listeners, as you know, we call them all producers, but they still are listeners.
I think we equipped them properly for the onslaught of coney, phony coney that pretty much commenced right after we wrapped up the show on Sunday.
It was unbelievable.
CNN was taking this bogative...
Message to such heights that every hour the view count would increase by 10 million.
It was literally 50 million, 60 million, 70 million!
That view count seemed a little odd to me.
I think it had been botted.
Well, you know, who even says that the view count is not bogative by definition?
No, it could be.
I mean, it's possible, but I think it could have been botted.
Let me just make a call.
I like to...
That's my new term, by the way, botted.
Botted.
Okay.
So let me...
But they did light up...
Well, actually, I have three little clips.
Uh...
So let me play the CNN clip where they bring in Barbara.
Now, Barbara is the horse face who is the Pentagon shill.
She has her own little studio there at the Pentagon, and she just sits around twiddling her thumbs until someone says, Hey, say this.
Oh, okay.
But she's old, so she looks kind of authoritative.
And she spilled the beans, I have to say, on what this whole Kony thing is about in the following flash news report from the Pentagon.
Barbara, to talk about that, because, Barbara, as we know, the president sent about 100 military advisors to Uganda just back in October to help the local forces hunt down Kony.
Are they making any progress?
Well, they are on the ground now in a number of locations, Suzanne.
Some very remote areas.
Uganda, as David pointed out, the Central African Republic, South Sudan.
About 100 troops working as trainers and advisors.
But the areas sometimes are quite unsettled.
So they're combat equipped, but their mission is to help these African military forces go after Kone.
This is a result of some congressional protests.
Laws being passed, some action in Washington to try and pressure some progress to get this man.
Now listen to the word she's using here.
Some congressional laws, some things, you know, to get some action.
That's basically hiding the truth.
That's something.
You don't need to know about that.
Just focus on Coney.
Is responsible for some of the worst atrocities on the African continent.
I would just very quickly point out, though, there is a broader U.S. military strategy at work in Africa.
They worry that these...
Yeah, she blew it there.
What?
Be quiet, you stupid...
I'm a stupid idiot!
Don't say this!
...kinds of groups are very destabilizing from Somalia across North Africa all the way into Nigeria in the West.
There are Al-Qaeda groups, Al-Qaeda affiliates, and some of these thugs and terrorist groups.
Thugs and terrorists and Al-Qaeda and thugs and terrorists!
Like Joseph Kony, it leads to destabilization, it leads to terrorists being able to move into these areas and take advantage.
That's kind of the broader mission that the U.S. military is on.
Train and advise the African militaries.
And then move in and establish AFRICOM, which is exactly what we said.
So she's kind of spilling the beans, which I was surprised.
She almost gave us some fair reporting there.
The Guardian...
The Guardian actually received an email from the State Department.
I guess the Guardian pretended to ask a real question.
Their real question was how long the U.S. will continue to operate militarily in Central Africa.
It came back, quote, we cannot say specifically how long advisors will remain deployed, but this is not an open-ended commitment.
No, we're regularly reviewing the advisory efforts to assess whether it is having the intended impact and whether we should continue the deployment.
The State Department added, over the last several years, hundreds of thousands of people around the world, especially young people, have mobilized and expressed concern for the communities in Central Africa placed under siege by the LRA. We greatly appreciate their commitment to draw attention to the LRA's atrocities and help those affected communities.
So, we know that nothing has really happened for the past six years.
And I was happy to see that this girl who grew up in Uganda, has family in Uganda, posted her own little YouTube clip, and I want to play an excerpt from that.
Very nice.
She's probably about 17, 18 years old, and someone sent me the link to her YouTube webcam video.
And...
I always talk to my brother, who's never left Uganda, and my grandmother, one of my grandmothers.
Both of them still live in Uganda as well.
And every single time that I have been there, and I usually stay there for months at a time, not once do they ever mention Kony.
So, why are they making it seem like Uganda is one big hellhole because of Kony?
Isn't she good?
Because it's not!
It's not!
So this video isn't really giving you the correct information.
So before you go out and you're like, stop Kony 2012 and change your Facebook profile picture and make all these tweets about Kony, you should probably educate yourself.
Thank you.
It gives me hope for the world when I see this.
Well, I do have a note here from my economic hitman who writes in every so often.
Oh, okay.
Who claims he was with USAID for years and now he's with, I don't know, someone else.
Wait a minute.
This is crazy.
Usually I get all this stuff.
I have a personal economic hit, man.
Very nice.
Like you have your personal producers that keep sending you cool stuff that they never send to me.
Good.
I'm glad you got some cool stuff to share.
I appreciate your take on the Kony viral video, having lived and worked in Uganda.
The thing is that what I saw him live in the street of terror during the Kony administration while working there.
He's not at rest, as was suggested, and continues to hold sway over the region.
I also agree that Mo7ne...
The president of Uganda is a dictator that the USA supports through aid programs, but the USA has been doing that long before any oil was discovered there.
The USA has been working to reduce the prevalence of AIDS, blah, blah, blah.
They've also been working on education and economic development for 30 years, so Adam believes that oil is the driving force, and I totally disagree.
For the longest time, I've been hoping that the USA would take pity on Uganda and send troops to help Ugandan forces and find a rest and kill Coney.
I've decried the fact that Africa never mattered enough to previous presidents to do anything.
I was opposed to the war in Iraq and slight supportive of our incursion into Afghanistan.
And he goes on with his anti-war rant.
Are you kidding me?
I'm just telling you what he wrote.
But he says, Kony, like the former taxi driver who became the dictator in Liberia, needs to be hunted down and sent to trial.
Then he says, but this is the thing that's kind of interesting.
I was thinking about you three weeks ago when I was in Malawi, where the Chiners have taken over in exchange for oil drilling rights in Lake Malawi.
They're out of control building government buildings, and the president has come out against the USA and is now trying to get rid of the USAID and DFID, which is the British version of USAID, so they do it too.
He's created artificial shortages and has run out of hard currency.
They are trading butter for petrol with neighboring countries.
Anyway, this is always correct, and this time he was a little off, says the economic hitman.
So, economic hitman.
First of all, John, you need new friends, because now the psyops is all over you.
The CIA has been in Uganda since 1967.
I just read it.
And that is a fact, and I have personal knowledge of that.
The CIA has been in Uganda since 1967.
The British, of course, took over Uganda early.
And it has not always been about oil.
It has been about an incredible wealth and minerals and other great God-given gifts to this earth that have been extracted from Uganda.
But, of course, this is also about Sudan.
The CIA has been very close with Sudan for decades.
In fact, in 2005...
The CIA tightened their ties with the Sudanese intelligence, and that is most definitely about oil.
So I don't understand why he's saying all of that, but the one thing I will agree with is this, to a large degree, and I have some other examples of that, is about getting the Chiners out.
We are still in a big proxy kerfuffle.
With the Chinas.
We're just trying to block them wherever we go.
Wherever we go.
For example, I just figured this one out because a note came over the transom about...
Well, here's the headline.
Keep pipeline safe despite Myanmar fighting, says China.
I'm like, huh?
Really?
Turns out the Chinas started building a pipeline the end of 2010...
The, uh, but there's a group there, which I'm sure is soon to be deemed, uh, what should we call them?
Al-Qaeda?
Al-Qaeda in the Myanmar province or something?
Myanmar, we'll call them Al-Qaeda.
A-Q, uh, A-Q, Burma.
A-I-M, Aquim.
Yeah, Aquim, there we go.
Give them a cool little name.
The Aquim.
And this, of course, explains why clippity-clop Lucifer Clinton all of a sudden shows up in Myanmar, because he wants to block that pipeline.
And this is how she does it.
She goes up there, hey, you know, that pipeline, I don't think it's such a good idea.
We're going to have to get the Karachi Independence Army, Kachin Independence Army, all fired up, and we just might have to blow up that pipeline.
You watch.
You watch.
This is going to happen.
This is a big deal, this pipeline for the Chiners.
Because they don't have any direct routes, and it's just wherever we can block them, but hopefully at the same time turn around and sell them our oil and gas, or the ones that we control through the pipeline, such as the Turkmenistan-Afghanistan-Pakistan-India pipeline, we'll do it.
I mean...
I don't know.
Why would we be selling the Chinese oil at all?
They have the third or fourth biggest oil company in the world.
Petro-China is huge.
Yeah, but they don't have oil, do they?
They import it.
Yeah, they got lots of oil.
They got as much coal as we do.
Then why do they need the pipeline?
I don't know why they need the pipeline.
You better figure that out.
Yeah.
Anyway, it doesn't matter because all of this is irrelevant because we don't need to watch the news.
All we have to do is listen to the wise words.
Who is the wisest woman in America, John?
When she says something, everyone stops dead in their tracks because she said it, therefore it's so.
Who could that be?
Erin Burnett.
Very close, very close.
But I'm talking on a global scale.
This woman is so fit.
Oprah Winfrey.
Oh, no, it's prettier.
Hotter.
Hotter?
Come on.
And actually has influence?
Oh, she's very influential.
Oh, Angelina Jolie.
I don't think I know anybody that doesn't hate Joseph Coney.
And anybody who works in the international field has been aware.
And I've been to Uganda and Congo and been to the International Criminal Court myself and spoken with the chief prosecutor about the case.
And he's the one that we all want to see in jail.
The group who made the video, Invisible Children, have come under fire from skeptics who say it twists the story and suffers from factual inaccuracies.
But Angelina says the bottom line is that Kony is a terrible person, and the more people know it, the better.
He's an extraordinarily horrible human being.
His time has come, and it's lovely to see the young people are raising up as well.
He's a horrible person.
Nobody, I don't know, anybody doesn't want him dead.
That's literally what she's saying.
So can you imagine, she says, I've been to Uganda.
Really?
She like lands at the airport and goes roaming around and gets a cab and stops at the store.
I doubt it.
That's right.
And I got a radio spot, I'm sorry, a television commercial, sent to me from one of our producers in South Africa.
As China's everywhere.
Remember, we've got big oil strikes off the coast there.
We've got from Djibouti all the way down to South Africa.
And, of course, we're everywhere.
And he says this is how the slaves are being programmed in South Africa.
This commercial, this audio, was played during a rugby game on television.
This commercial, this commercial, this commercial, this commercial, this commercial, this commercial, this commercial, this commercial, this commercial, this commercial.
Many have said that we have since deviated from it.
What they do not realize is that we are forging a new one.
A new world order is on the rise.
129 years in the making.
A new world order is on the rise.
They're being programmed down there, dude.
Well, let's take a look at the, what is this 129 years reference?
I don't know.
That I don't know.
129.
That's the first thing that caught my attention.
I'm twice so specific.
It wasn't like 100 years, 130 years.
129.
So that puts it at what year?
Let's just put that into the book of knowledge and see what pops up.
129 years of American labor.
Civil War.
Where's Civil War?
No.
Denver's Mount Vincent.
Home for children.
129 years.
Knights of Columbus.
Maybe you have to...
Maybe that's it.
The Knights of Columbus are taking over the world.
Let me just type in...
Oh, okay.
Darwin died 129 years ago.
George Marshall was born 129 years ago.
The Marshall Plan.
Scott John Ross, who was African hero to be honored 129 years after his death.
That could be.
Who was that?
Who was Scott John Ross?
129 years ago, the Battle of Rourke's Drift was fought.
Ah, you found it.
South Africa.
Yeah.
Small number of British soldiers successfully fought off an attack.
Oh, he achieved hero status when the settlers at Port Natal were struck down with sickness and lacked supplies and medicines to survive.
That doesn't sound like it, does it?
Well, it's a mystery.
But I'm sure...
129 years ago to this day, Rourke's drifted up and the British soldiers fell off an attack by between 3,500 and 4,000 Zulus.
Yeah, exactly.
Those spear chuckers, I tell ya!
Popular myths surrounding games are that they mostly Welsh, but only 11% were.
Most of the soldiers were in the first and second.
I don't believe...
This can't be it.
When were the Boer Wars?
Gives a crap.
When were the Boer Wars?
That wasn't 129 years ago.
I don't think so either.
That doesn't sound like...
It sounded more like 60 years ago.
So I've seen...
That was...
The Boer Wars was...
Well, hold on a second.
1880.
Maybe it has something to do with that.
Yeah, 1880 to 1881.
I think we've struck it, John.
It was the Boer Wars.
Why has that got to do with the New World Order?
Shut up, accept it, and watch the Rugby Slave.
What's your problem?
Don't be questioning things.
Just take the mental programming.
But that seems like it would be it.
If you take 2012 and subtract...
In 1881, you get 131.
So, yeah, I guess the Boer Wars, that could be it.
I found it.
Ah.
On a crackpot site.
Napoleon was born in 1760.
Hitler was born in 1889.
The difference?
129 years.
Napoleon came to power in 1804.
Wait a minute.
Wait a minute.
1833.
The difference?
129 years.
Wait a minute.
So let's go back to this spot for a second.
So they're saying what started 129 years ago is finally becoming the new world order.
So they're basically saying...
With our great leader, Adolphus Hitlis, the New World Order was born?
Is that your theory?
Because I'm liking it.
William entered Vienna in 1812.
Hitler entered Vienna in 1941.
The difference?
129 years.
I think we have a new donation amount.
129-er.
It is a very magical number.
Let's listen to the spot one more time.
In 1883, our pioneers from the North gave the world a blueprint for success.
Okay, in 1883.
Yeah, we missed that.
Yeah.
Many have said that we have since deviated.
But from the North.
Germany is to the North.
So it's, uh, yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Of course.
Is that we are forging a new one.
A new world order is on the rise.
129 years in the making.
The Six Nations.
Exclusive to Supersport.
Proudly brought to you by Sassan Bank.
A partner.
I see what they're really talking about.
In January, in 1883, the Ontario Rugby Football Union became...
Okay.
I got it.
There you go.
That's it.
Some rugby or something like that.
I think it's a mystical, magical number, though.
I think it's very important.
We need to keep that one...
All decoded, yes.
Keep it alive.
Very nice.
So, anyway, very good.
Stay on it.
At a certain point, I actually almost got mad, man.
Don Lemon was bringing in kids with their faces cut off live.
I was like...
Yeah, well, you could, okay.
It was just like, anyway.
On that note, we should probably thank some executive producers.
Yeah, but it is all about AFRICOM, and you'll see more of this word popping up in the vernacular of the media and how important it is, because, of course, it's just like Al-Qaeda.
It's just like Al-Qaeda.
There's thugs and terrorists and all kinds of horrible people there.
Horrible, horrible, horrible people.
It has nothing to do with the Chinas.
Nothing to do with, don't look over here.
So, we got a couple of good donations this week as executive producers, including one anonymous one for 2012.
Now, we have a knighthood for that, don't we?
Is this the first 2012 knight?
Yeah, it is.
But he doesn't want to be talked about and he's got nothing to say.
And it's not about the Dave Matthews challenge.
Yeah, because you asked him specifically.
I specifically asked him about that because I don't want to throw away a good anecdote.
And I have to say...
I'm actually surprised nobody called you on it.
I'm very happy because what this means to me, John, is that there are people, I mean, hundreds of millions of dollars are thrown away at worthless, compromised initiatives like public television, public radio.
Seriously, worthless and compromised and just completely bogative.
And these same people who I'm sure contribute to outfits like that are waking up and are being exposed to our No Agenda program.
And they're saying, you know what?
I should put my money where my mouth is.
And I think this is the first example I've seen.
Is this not the biggest donation we've ever received in one shot?
Not a one shot basis, I believe so.
And he wants to stay anonymous, which means he doesn't want to get his head blown off for doing it.
So this is good.
I would assume by his wife personally, but I didn't ask.
Does it matter?
We get more guys who write, you know, don't say anything, my wife will kill me.
Yeah, that's not understandable to me because I think women grok this stuff quick.
I think we have a higher number of women than we actually would like to think we have.
Yeah.
Because most of these shows, most of this stuff, I know a lot of women just don't get into podcasts generally, but some do.
Anyway, onward.
Alan Thompson from New Carrollton, Maryland.
Came in with 3333, looking for some karma for his new project, just finished a new award year release, Hard and Difficult, new release, and he never says quite what it is.
But anyway, he wants some karma to assure a smoother release, and since there's so many donations for his show 333, he thought he wasn't properly de-douched during that show where we had all those donors.
And so he needs a de-douche and karma combo.
You've been de-douched.
You've got karma.
There you go.
A proper de-douched.
In the chat room, you can congratulate him.
He's East Coast boner.
It's nice to meet you.
We apparently ran into you in the Hot Pockets kickoff event.
By the way, how's it coming for the Hot Pockets 2008-2 tour?
Yeah, I'll get back to you on that.
Ryan Showalter in Fresno, California, 325-67.
32567.
No agenda karma works, he says.
My girlfriend put on a donation.
It put a donation on my name for last Sunday's show on behalf of our anniversary.
And two days later, I received a surprise $500 bonus on my paycheck.
I was absolutely floored.
Isn't it lovely when it works?
To keep the karma flowing, it's pretty weird if you ask me, but it seems to have, we got all these stories.
We should accumulate them into one giant website.
Here's a sizable chunk of my bonus, which is a good chunk, I might add.
Thank you for all the extremely hard work you guys put into every show.
Look forward to every episode, and he needs a Hot Pockets Karma, if you can give him one.
Yeah, of course I can.
Hot Pockets.
You've got karma.
That's very kind.
And that is sharing the love and boomeranging the karma back.
I love it.
Philip Flick in Albuquerque, New Mexico, which you drove right past.
$300.
Brewer Phil here wanted to let you know the last dozen shows or so have been great!
I want to update you that the karma worked.
Another karma worked.
This is karma worked week.
Public television, you get a freaking tote bag, okay?
Here, you get bonus checks, you get laid.
Here's what he got.
He now got engaged.
No!
His lovely fiancee, Brittany.
Is that karma?
That's good.
I would like to ask for two things.
We hear a lot about John's wine and whiskey picks, but he never talks about beer.
Lagunitas IPA. I would want to know what beer John enjoys.
Lagunitas IPA. Also, could I get a Huntsman de-douching karma so I can find a new job that pays the bills?
I'm looking forward to beer and wenches at the knighthood finish line.
Beer and wenches.
Okay.
If you don't mind, I'll do a...
So he wants a what?
He wants a huntsman dedouching.
I'll do dedouching huntsman karma because that will kind of sound better, I think.
All right, here we go.
You've been dedouched.
You've got karma.
A new combo.
And we'll talk about the Huntsman thing in a minute.
Really?
Nick Kosterman's in Oakville, Ontario, Canada.
$200.
He's our associate executive producer.
Hey, John and Adam, second donations toward my knighthood be...
I can't imagine how I never thought to look beyond all the bogative messages in the media.
I found that the critical analysis of pipelines and political motivations invaluable to me.
I'm almost done university.
Ha, ha, ha.
What are you laughing for?
I'm almost done university.
Must be a state college.
I'm almost done university and currently I'm taking a globalization and technology course where I use info from the show to blow the minds of all the mindless media consumers in the course.
I bet you do.
Can you imagine?
I'd like a Huntsman karma combo for my ITM 800 group to get our project done on time so we can graduate.
I'd like to call out the Canadian Conservative Party as a bunch of douchebags for their wasteful new legislation for the war on drugs.
Eat a dick, Stephen Harper.
You're a shill.
That's a t-shirt.
That's a t-shirt right there.
You've got karma.
Yeah, I was saying, for some reason I wind up saying that a lot during the day.
Well, so we got a note from someone.
Uh-huh.
You got the note, didn't you?
Oh, the haputari ching ching note?
Yes, I did.
It says, you can't even come close to it, and the thing is bogus, and he's been in China for a long time, and I don't know, I told him that we got notes from people in China, but he's in China too, that say it's fine.
So now I don't know, I'm completely befuddled.
I don't know either.
Maybe I'll have to ask the economic hitman and he can give me the link.
I'm not trusting your economic hitman that much.
You know, I'm looking at these things as messaging.
I think the whole thing was about getting the note out about Malawi.
I'm down with that.
I'm down with that.
So it was an encoded message.
You've seen those.
Oh yeah.
We've discussed them off air.
Indeed we have.
We get these messages.
You know, it says one thing, but the real message is something else.
And usually we don't act on them.
We just sit at home where it's safe.
Well, whatever.
We, of course, highly appreciate the support from our executive producers, Anonymous, Alan Thompson, Philip Flick, Ryan Showalter, and our associate executive producer, Nick Kosterman.
This is fantastic.
It is beautiful to know that you appreciate the work, and it's changing your life.
We had a couple of karma success stories in there, which is great.
We would like you to continue to think of us and to support the program by going to...
Dvorak.org Slash N A You can also go to channeldvorak.com slash nanoagendashow.com and noagendanation.com where also we should mention Eric's put up a...
Yeah, it's a new project, mayancoin.com.
Mayancoin.com, which I have to say, I hope he advertises it to send it out to the general public because...
The whole thing's in Mayan, but on the backside, unbeknownst to a normal public, it actually says Crackpot and Buzzkill in some sort of...
In Mayan.
In Mayan, with two jerks on there.
It's actually quite funny.
It's a beautiful coin.
I do not have one in my possession, so I can only go by what I'm seeing.
Yeah, I think it's been manufacturing right now, but it's the best design he's done.
I would say, and if you use the code MAYNCOIN, shipping's free.
Oh, really?
It's like $44.44.
And I got a note from a military guy.
He said, you know, all our wives here at the base, they're always whipping out their coins.
I need a challenge coin for no agenda.
I guess he's a newer listener.
So you can go to MayanCoin.com.
People will be floored when they see this thing.
Like, holy crap, what theater did you get that from?
What battleground?
Yeah, can you imagine?
I got my challenge coin.
What?
And by the way, it expires at the end of this year along with you.
It's our last chance to dance challenge coin.
We also got a couple of cool domain name forwards, which I always appreciate.
You can find those in the show notes at 390.nashownotes.com.
Coney2012bullshit.com.
Which might be a good one to tweet out to your friends.
That's a good one.
We should use it.
Yeah.
Well, also, one of our producers, and I tweeted this link, he did like a 14-minute video, a YouTube video, and this guy, Arsenomics is his YouTube name, I like what he does.
He takes the audio from the show, and then while we're talking, he actually surfs through the web and all the stuff we're talking about, and he gets in the show notes, and he clicks on the links.
It's kind of like a multimedia presentation.
It's so hip that way.
And so maybe we can point Kony2012bullshit.com towards that.
We have another forward to noagendershow.com.
Thisisyourgovernment.com.
I'm like, wow, I didn't know that.
I wouldn't expect that to be available, actually.
I was actually surprised by Mayan coin being available.
Yeah, another good point.
How did that work?
And then probably the best or the funniest one, although completely useless in practice, forwarding to our NoAgendaShow.com website, DueProcessIsNotJudicialProcess.com Yeah, it's funny.
But of course, completely useless because people can't remember it.
It's a little long, but it's funny.
It's humorous.
It's good for one quick gag.
It is.
So we appreciate all of that.
We appreciate all of the work.
And of course, you can always do something very important.
Just go out, bring more people in, and propagate the formula.
Our formula is this.
We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
New Worlds!
Order!
Come on, you know you are one!
Shut up, slave.
And change your clock.
So did you know that Lois sent you a note about the alien probes of women that are pregnant or whatever it is?
But this was news two weeks ago.
I don't understand why.
And it's not really a noagenda topic.
Yeah, to me it was like, huh, really?
Yeah, okay.
Do you feel it's an origin of topic?
Well, it is kind of old because it came up...
Well, explain to people what it is then.
Well, wasn't it the guy in Virginia, the governor there?
That's the way it became news.
It was already done in Texas.
Yeah.
I don't know when, maybe a year ago for all I know.
They're just to dissuade people from getting abortions.
This is the Christian right.
They've instituted, well, if you're going to get an abortion, you have to first get tested with this.
Probe you.
Do an ultrasound.
Shove a probe up your vagina.
Boom, here.
Okay, you're doing a horrible job.
The fact that Texans buy into a lot of this stuff.
You're doing a horrible job.
So what it is is a law that exists in Texas, and if you want to get an abortion, then by law you first have to go to the doctor.
They probe you with an ultrasound device, which I guess, I mean, when Patricia was pregnant with Christina, it was never a vaginal probe, but okay.
So it is, apparently.
And they make you watch the ultrasound and listen to the heartbeat, then go home and think about it for 24 hours.
So neither of us are qualified to speak about this, because A, we don't have a vagina.
And I think the whole thing is abhorrent, because no government has any business in meddling with you whatsoever in this regard.
But there's nothing else I can say about it.
Republicans are into meddling with the public, it seems to me.
By the way, thank you, Citizen Robert.
Hey, Citizen.
Hey, Citizen.
From San Antone, 129years.com.
Now forwarding to NoAgendaShow.com.
That's beautiful.
Just now?
Yeah.
129years.com.
Yeah, I'm telling you, this is a good one.
We should do a special donation amount.
129-er.
It's a good deal.
I like Lois a lot, and I know she tries to help us out, but who cares?
It's idiotic.
The people running our country are completely insane.
What do you expect?
But it's not just Texas, and Austin is not Texas.
This is true.
This is like Paris is in France.
Well, and I think more typical of a story about Texans would be...
That Apple is opening up an office here.
An office or a store?
No, no, no.
They're going to hire people.
Austin is the high-tech nexus of Texas.
I was reading the release and it was like, you know, they're talking about $350 million they're going to pump into this facility here.
It sounds like a call center, quite honestly.
I'm not quite sure what they're doing, but it was like for support and stuff.
I'm like, oh, okay, call center.
But it's cool, you know.
I know.
Is your machine plugged in?
Make sure the cord is plugged in.
Hold on a second.
We have to do an assembly of the geniuses.
Hold on.
I'm sure you've seen the South Park episode.
No, I didn't.
The human sent iPad?
No, I didn't see the news.
They've done Apple a couple of times.
If you must look at, after the show with Buzzkill Jr., because he's seen it, I'm sure, you will poop yourself, literally, watching the Human Sent iPad South Park episode.
It is the best.
So I'm watching the show Preppers again.
Oh, no!
So this is my favorite one thus.
Becky, this dingbat who's living in the middle of nowhere anyway by herself.
She's not a bad looking woman.
I don't imagine anyone wants to date her.
That answers my first question.
Because she's so nutty.
But just play Becky Becomes a Sniper.
Fire!
But in a government takeover, Becky believes she will need offensive as well as defensive weapons.
So if necessary, she can preemptively eliminate a threat without being detected.
Today, with Bob's expertise, she is training with a bolt-action sniper rifle, outfitted with a telescopic lens that guarantees optimal precision from up to 1,000 yards away.
I'm taking sniper training because then I could keep people as far away from me as I needed to.
This hand goes underneath.
You support it.
Make a fist.
Pull it tight into your shoulder.
You want me to have it dead center vertically, right?
Today, Becky's bullseye is 200 yards, the equivalent of two football fields.
You did it.
Tonight?
Yes.
Sweet!
Alright, I have a take on this if you want it, or do you have something to say?
Yeah, I want to hear your take, but let me just say this.
If the government...
The government...
What do you mean, if the government takes over?
They've taken over.
Yeah, really.
They take over what?
They've taken over.
The government has...
They took over like in the 1800s.
I mean, give me a break.
So here's my take on this.
This is an elaborate setup.
Because on CNN, and I have multiple screens running during the day, what caught my eye is they rolled out a report from 2009 about Patriot groups.
And Patriot, of course, in the chyron on the screen is in quotes, Patriot, you know, Patriot.
And they have this woman on from the SPLC. Are you familiar with this outfit, John?
The SPLC? The Southern Poverty...
The Symbianese Liberation Army.
No, the Southern Poverty Law Center.
Oh yeah, the Southern Poverty Law Center.
They're the ones who set the precedent for busting up these operations by suing the leaders under some circumstance when anything bad that happens could be traced to a newsletter or writing or even a speech that they made.
It's a very interesting legal situation.
Well, this is a non-profit civil rights organization.
Yeah, they're very famous.
Yeah, they seem like a bunch of douchebags.
Yeah, there's a lot of douchery there, that's for sure.
So, I have two clips, and they have this woman on from the SPLC. And the premise here is that the Patriot groups, the membership and the creation of groups has risen dramatically.
And they have, you know, from 400 in 2008 to over 1,200 now.
1,200 patriot groups.
And then they show this package.
They have no new video.
It's from 2009.
Some of these groups that aren't patriot groups, like the old ones they used to have problems with, which are generally Christian white supremacist groups.
Some of these guys are just, you know, members of a shooting club.
Thank you.
This is exactly what I'm...
This is my point exactly.
So you got these guys, and they're like middle-aged guys that dress up in fatigues, and they're out there shooting around in the woods and stuff.
You know, it's like, okay, whatever.
And let me play these two clips.
So, what, if anything, is being done to...
I'm sorry, let me play them in reverse order.
So they're very worried about the Constitution, is basically the premise.
In fact, that's how it starts off.
But then listen how this woman twists...
Reality and lies, lies, to benefit this campaign 2012.
How many of you are worried about the Constitution right now?
Worried as in the sense that it's not being followed.
So they say, yeah, worried.
We're worried about it.
It's going away.
No one's following the Constitution.
Well, you know, I could easily see myself in one of these groups.
And, you know, by the way, we could have fun shooting some guns and drinking some beer.
Now let's go over to the woman from the Southern Poverty Law Center and get her view on this.
So, the why.
Why the explosive growth, Heidi?
Okay.
Well, there's basically two factors that have driven the anti-government groups up.
One is the bad economy.
That always adds to any kind of extremism that you have.
How so?
Extremism, by the way.
It's extremism now.
Or the election of a democratic...
So guys who go out in the woods and shoot paintball or go squirrel hunting are extremists.
Yeah, extremism.
But it gets worse.
How so?
I was going to say, the bad economy...
The bad economy tends to drive people into extreme...
By the way, you hear how professional she is?
She knows how to play into a crosstalk on the satellite.
So she knows to shut up and then start again without saying...
She's a very professional woman, this.
The bad economy tends to drive people into extremist groups.
They're unemployed, they're frustrated, they're angry.
And so they start joining them up.
But more importantly...
Oh, what could it be, John?
More importantly, what could it be?
Come on, what could it be?
Well, it would have to be hate.
It would have to have something to do with Ron Paul.
No, no, no, no.
It's more important than that.
Listen to this.
Listen to this woman.
It's really the election of Barack Obama and the swing to the left in the presidency.
Listen.
Be quiet and listen.
It happened in the 1990s with Clinton when the first militia movement occurred.
But this time it's a little different because Obama is an African American.
Ah!
Oh, he's black.
Is that what you're saying?
Can we give up on this idea of calling everyone racist?
No, listen to what she says.
It really made me angry.
And the CNN... What?
Just be quiet and listen.
Because Obama is an African American, so there are all these crazy racial theories that you hear about Obama, that he's not really a citizen.
That's racial?
He's not a citizen?
That's a racial thing?
Really?
Oh, maybe she has more.
That he's maybe a secret Muslim.
Oh, that's racial?
He's Muslim?
Is that racial, John?
Is that racial?
This woman is, by today's standards, apparently.
All of this has created an incredible amount of paranoia on the far, far right, which is expressed in this kind of anti-government activism.
Unbelievable!
Anti-government activism.
He's black, and there's all this crazy racism because he's not a citizen.
And what should we do about it, Emily?
So, what, if anything, is being done to combat some of this paranoia?
Well, probably the most important thing that needs to be done is that law enforcement has to watch out for them.
I mean, the fact of the matter is that anti-government groups have been known to be involved in a lot of domestic terrorism.
We've had militia arrests in Michigan this year, Alaska, most recently in Georgia, where a group of militiamen were going to spread ricin in big cities like Atlanta and Baltimore.
So it's a major law enforcement problem.
And luckily for us, the FBI has been on top of this, and so has the Department of Homeland Security.
And that's what needs to happen.
No.
You're just a bunch of belligerents, and they're all terrorists, and we're Al-Qaeda.
And it was very disturbing to me because this was predicted that the race card would be played big time.
Well, it's been played over and over.
Yeah, but this is really outrageous.
And I think Preppers does play into this.
Yes, of course it does.
Of course it does.
But it makes it kind of funny because we get ridiculed.
Oh, yeah.
By the way, but it's totally bogative of what she said that the militia movement began...
During the Clinton administration.
In fact, even if you just look at militia movement in the Book of Knowledge, the posse comitatus, which was part of this, was during the Reagan administration.
How do you explain that?
And then there were some examples of militias in the 70s.
I remember the Minutemen.
At Berkeley, there used to be a group called the Minutemen, which were militiamen.
And they were sending out these...
Actually, a professor that I had got one of these.
I saw it at his house.
And he was spooked by it.
But this was a huge scandal.
And this is way, this is like 50 years ago, or 40, way before she talks about this, where they sent out these little nasty notes to people with a target.
It showed a target, like a gun sight thing that you would look through.
And it said, instead of mentioning that you were, you know, seen talking to a black man or something, and they said, we got our eye on you.
So I can't remember the exact wording, but this has been going on forever.
This is nothing new.
And so...
So this is all bull crap.
Her premise is bad.
And she brings up that it gets cranked up a little bit.
Yeah, during Waco.
Because everyone got a little paranoid.
Wouldn't you think?
So I don't know.
This whole thing is that I'm really bothered by the real...
There's like no factual information.
And nobody challenges any of this stuff.
You're watching this on CNN. She can say whatever she wants.
And these idiots.
No challenge.
Oh, well, yeah.
What should we do about it then?
These racists.
They don't say anything and call these people out for being full of crap.
And so you can go on these shows and say whatever you want.
Believe me, I've gone on a lot of these shows myself.
And you just talk crap.
No one ever questions what I have to say.
You're always talking crap.
But the mouse won't work.
No one cares about a mouse.
It could be challenged.
Let's go over to FBI headquarters, John, and see if we can find any belligerents.
We've been seeing the number three all over the ship.
I actually have a belligerent clip somewhere, too.
You see three all over the ship.
I'm seeing number three all over the ship.
But it's disturbing, you know?
It's just really disturbing.
You're right.
No one challenges anything.
Nothing.
Nothing.
Brr.
Brr.
Oh, here it is.
Here it is.
Here it is.
My security scan shows it has a grade one priority, Captain.
Non-belligerency confirmed.
Non-belligerency.
Confirmed, Captain.
Non-belligerency.
So, talking about ships, there's a show on the Travel Channel.
I was going to do another one of those questions.
Guess what channel this is on?
The Travel Channel.
It's called Ghost Adventures.
Really?
And yeah.
And these guys go on a ship.
They go on the USS Hornet, which is over here in Alameda, so I could go over there and check this out.
You could be a ghost hunter.
I've got a couple of clips.
You've got to play this one.
Ghosts on the USS Hornet.
This is the kind of reporting that you get from ghost hunters nowadays.
Oh!
You know what's really weird?
Because I feel like I keep getting poked in the arm with needles.
You know, like shots.
Are you serious?
Yeah.
And then my arms start twitching.
Zach, come here.
What's wrong?
You have to experience this right now, man.
It just got really cold.
I can see my breath.
Something's in here with me.
Well, just stay because I don't want to move.
I don't want to interrupt this.
No.
Is there somebody here with me?
Can you talk to me?
Wait a minute, wait a minute, John.
We can do this.
Hold on a second.
Hold on a second.
First, we've got to sound like two surfers.
Hey, John, dude, you've got to come over here, man.
I got really cold.
My penis just shrunk.
Come on, man.
Feel it.
Feel it.
It's an innie.
It's an innie, man.
Oh, man, I don't think I want to do that.
It completely went away.
Is someone in here with me?
Oh, man, I'm going to stay over here.
In fact, I'm going to leave.
I'm out of here.
So in another episode, by the way, this is the worst show in the history of television.
No, no, no.
Swamp People has got to be worse.
So this one, I only have one more clip from this show.
Yes, thank you.
Finally, apparently, I didn't realize this, but if it wasn't for the power grid that we have, we probably wouldn't have ghosts.
Because that's what they eat.
Documentation of their deaths and no tombstones.
And then let's grab another list that's not documented.
And see-through of possibly some murders or suicides.
So with that, we have one, two, three, four, five.
Five stacks of Of darkness, dread, death, wrongdoings, and that pretty much describes the roof that's over our heads.
I think it's a hotbed of activity is what it is.
We have a power grid across the street, which I think feeds a lot of the activity.
We're close to ley lines.
You have all the dead bodies and the deaths that happened here.
So you've got a power grid.
This right here could be harboring a station for these entities and spirits to be powering themselves, you know what I mean?
Absolutely, and I really believe that that's like a food source almost, if you will.
Right, right.
Energy source.
I'm hungry.
I think I need to eat.
I've got to suck off my UPS for a moment.
Now you're supposed to say, why are you wasting time watching this crap?
I know I've given up, but I'll indulge you.
Why are you wasting our time watching this crap?
I couldn't help myself.
Oh, I know why.
Because there was a windstorm or something, and I was having trouble getting C-SPAN. Oh, really?
Yeah.
Well, there was a couple of things that were not on C-SPAM, which I had to find from other sources.
And this is one thing that I thought there was an introduction of a new bill into Congress, House Resolution 107.
Have you heard of this one?
No, but I'm sure I will.
Yes, you will.
Let me read this to you.
This was entered by...
I don't have it here.
Jones.
Congressman Jones.
House Resolution 107, expressing the sense of Congress that the use of offensive military force by a president without prior and clear authorization of an act of Congress constitutes an impeachable high crime and misdemeanor under Article 2, Section 4 of the Constitution.
That's good.
They won't pass that.
It's in committee.
Yeah.
Well, that's a start.
Walter Jones, Republican in North Carolina.
Yeah.
Look at his bills.
He gets a lot of co-sponsors on his bills.
Let's see what he's all about.
Well, I think he's probably...
He looks like one of those guys, yeah.
Troublemaker.
He got in office in 1995.
He's probably on...
Troublemaker.
I think you said it.
Troublemaker.
Troublemaker.
Yeah, don't fly in any small aircraft.
No, it really wants to impeach the president should the president decide to go and kill Assad without congressional approval, which I think it is an impeachable offense, and I agree.
Now, interestingly enough...
And this was not on C-SPAN. I had to pull this off of Shep Smith's show, of all things.
This really, really, really bugged me.
We have...
Let me just find the clip here.
This was Mueller...
Robert Mueller, who is the...
Mueller?
Yeah, Mueller.
Mueller?
Not Bueller, Mueller.
Oh, Mueller.
Who, of course, is the director of the FBI, who was reinstated after his 10-year tenure.
Yeah, after he's not supposed to be.
Well, let me just reiterate for people who have not listened to the show.
He passed a law some years ago because they didn't want another J. Edgar Hoover situation where you can't get the damn guy out of office because he knows too much.
So if you're an FBI, head of the FBI, you can only stay in for, I think, two, three-year terms or some six years.
I don't know the exact amount of time.
Ten years.
Ten years.
Oh, that's a long time.
It shouldn't even be that long, but whatever.
And so the ten years passed.
Hold on.
They say, well, let's leave him in.
I mean, come on.
And he was installed as director of the FBI three months before 9-11.
Three months before 9-11.
Let me just repeat that again for you.
And then his 10 years were up and I was like, I mean, you know, publicly they say he's doing such a great job.
You'll never change a winning team.
Screw the law.
Privately, of course, like, dude, he knows where all the bodies are, man.
No, we can't have this.
By the way.
You have to change the law and short it even more.
Mickey got J. Edgar the movie and I watched it with her.
Yeah.
That guy was an a-hole.
Hoover?
You know, that movie got zero play.
It barely made it into the theaters.
And it's done by, you know...
Did you see it?
No, I haven't seen it yet because I haven't gotten it.
Let me give you a synopsis.
They buried that movie.
Oh yeah, you better believe they did.
And first of all, it was a very complicated movie because you have to know a little bit about history.
And it was directed by Clint Eastwood.
Right, and that's an automatic winner.
No, it was completely...
Well, no, I realize now...
And Leonardo DiCaprio, he played J. Edgar, which I think he did very well.
But here's the main highlights from the movie.
So, what is insinuated is that the FBI, J. Edgar Hoover, that he actually was responsible for the kidnapping of the Lindbergh baby in order to get the FBI law passed, which made them into an official agency and allowed them to carry guns.
And there was all this lying that he did, and they had these complete ties.
It sounds like a fractal of what's going on with the TSA and Homeland Security.
Totally!
In fact, this is what you've got to look out for.
They had the G-Men.
Do you remember the G-Men?
Yeah.
Like radio plays and they had like little G-Men badges and cereal boxes.
Yeah, there's a bunch of radio shows.
And how Hoover came to power is he had all these files and everybody.
He had Touchables, I believe, began as a radio show.
Also, yeah.
And he had, you know, he had like the tape recordings of Eleanor Roosevelt, you know, having a lesbian affair with someone.
Trist.
Trist.
There you go.
It's always a lesbian Trist.
And, you know, he had tapes of Kennedy screwing the East German spy, who, by the way, was really hot.
And I can't blame the guy.
And that's how he came to power.
But what they have, the back story...
Is that he was always gay and he had huge mommy issues because his mom is in there throughout the whole movie until she passes away.
And the second in command, forget the guy's name in real life, but he was Edgar Hoover's lover.
And so they have this kind of, this weird story like the reason why he was such an insane maniac was because he was sexually repressed.
It was like a very confusing story, but fascinating.
And now I want to go read some books about this guy because he really started the whole idea of tracking everybody.
He built the first fingerprint database.
He had all the files on everybody and created, you know, events that In order to gain power.
Yeah, just outrageous.
I'm like, wow, I had no idea what an a-hole this guy was.
Anyway, so the modern day version...
He used to stand on a box, too.
Yeah, it was quite short.
The modern day...
Do you have a book you can recommend about J. Edgar Hoover?
No, nothing.
We've got to find something.
So, fascinating movie.
I recommend you watch it.
As a no-agenda listener, you will appreciate it, because most people are like, so slow, get to some action, where's the lesbian stuff?
But if you're a no-agenda listener...
I would also be a no-agenda listener.
That's true.
So, here is the modern-day J. Edgar Hoover, Robert Mueller, who was asked if it is legal to drone an American citizen in America.
It's a very short clip.
That's a good one.
You get that.
Good for you.
It's not on C-SPAN. This entire...
It's been C-SPAN washed.
It's not on C-SPAN. And somehow Shep Smith had a copy of it.
So it's only 10 seconds, but listen carefully.
Does that only apply to a U.S. citizen that's overseas, or does that apply to a U.S. citizen that's here?
I'd have to go back.
I'm not certain whether that was addressed or not.
I've got to go check on that.
Can you believe this?
I, you know, I got a good show.
Would he go off the top of your head?
No.
Well, he doesn't want to...
Well, he does go off the top of his head.
The answer is yes.
We can drone an American citizen, but let me go check on it.
Yeah, I'll get back to you.
Because I don't want to say that because it's going to get all over the place if I do.
Yeah, I don't want to look like a douchebag.
Because if it wasn't the case, he'd say no.
Yeah, of course he would say no.
He'd say no.
He'd say no.
He can't do that.
He can't do that.
I didn't pull the whole clip, but Shep Smith goes crazy on this.
I have to give him that.
And then he brings in the judge and everything.
But I was just like, wow!
I think they're poisoning him or something.
Yeah, it's not that good.
So, what I did find on C-SPAN was something...
You know, the Syria thing is driving me crazy.
I just keep looking at it from all angles.
Like, what is happening?
What is going on?
And I don't know if you've put any thought to it in between watching Preppers and Ghost Hunters...
I don't know if you've had any time in your busy schedule to think about it.
It's Ghost Adventures.
Yeah.
Ghost Hunters is a show on the sci-fi now.
I know, I know.
I don't watch any of that crap because I don't want to be programmed by the frequencies they're putting in there.
I am not programmed.
Kill all humans.
I don't think you're programmable anymore.
At a certain age, it doesn't work.
Yeah, it craps out at 40-something.
That's why they just give you the vaccine.
Don't worry.
Huh?
So, the Syria thing is driving me nuts.
I'm trying to figure out, because, you know, Bibi Netanyahu was visited with the president, and the Jewish contingent, the Jewish groups, AIPAC, etc., are outraged, because apparently in that meeting, apparently, President Obama said to Netanyahu, you cannot attack Iran until after I'm elected.
Or, maybe not that specific, but you have to delay.
You cannot attack now, which kind of plays into the theory of an October surprise.
And of course, Israel is pretty...
It also plays into my theory of no October surprise.
Possibly.
But he's been asked to delay.
And this has outraged the Jewish community.
And have you seen that?
There's like a 17-minute video.
It's just as professionally produced as Kony 2012.
It'll be in the show notes at 390.nashownotes.com.
And this whole video, which is paid for by, I believe, AIPAC, is basically saying Obama's a Muslim.
And that Obama wants to expand the Saudi Arabian power.
And so I'm taking that as well.
The caliphate.
Yeah.
So maybe that's an angle with Syria.
And I'm looking at Syria.
And Israel is very quiet.
They're not really saying anything.
You don't hear them in this debate at all, do you?
About Syria.
Nothing.
Nothing.
So if you look at the location of Syria, which is inland from Lebanon, Of course, they have some claim to Leviathan, so maybe that has something to do with it.
I'm not sure.
Of course, we have the Golan Heights, which is disputed territory between Syria and Israel.
But very important, the Israelis have promised never to attack that region because that's where their main pipeline for their oil comes in.
I'm just trying to figure all this out.
I can't see who stands where except looking at oil companies.
But then we have the State Department.
The State Department does a daily press briefing.
And I like these because, A, the international press is there, and they have funny accents, which is always cool.
And they ask crazy questions that you don't expect.
But even better, the woman who is the spokeshole...
Her name is Newland.
Victoria Newland, I think her name is.
And she is not very good.
And when she's tired, she starts to slip up and she says the stupidest things and people latch on to it and they just don't let her go.
This one, though, when you look at the video, she's reading off of her paper as she explains exactly what...
Asad is.
Now, of all the descriptions, and this is a new meme, so it's being launched because I can see her glancing down, reading it word for word off of her Flintstone teleprompter, what do you think we could describe Asad as?
Of all the things, just the crazy things, Well, why don't you, instead of grilling me, since I obviously don't know the answer to that or I jump right in, tell me.
I'd be happy to tell you.
It'll just be fun to see if you...
No, I can't come up with any of this guy with a stick up his ass.
Let's think movie plot.
Mr.
Uptight.
Let's think movie plot.
The funniest man in Syria.
You know, laugh a minute Assad.
I have no idea.
But I think you know where we have been on this subject.
That...
Under Assad, political power in Syria is exercised by a mafia-like crime family.
Ah, this is a new one.
A mafia-like crime family.
It's funny, because that's actually not a new one, and it's something we've discussed on the show over two years ago.
When I tell my anecdote about the Saudi guy that...
I mentioned some years back on a flight I was sitting next to him that traditionally the Syrians have always operated as a mafia to extort money from the other Arab countries because the Syrians had no resources.
So that doesn't really shock me.
I think what they're trying to do is introduce that, I think, to the general public, that concept.
Well, let's have a listen to our explanation and then some follow-up questions.
Not by a parliament, not by parties, not by a cabinet.
And so the only meaningful reform, the only meaningful dialogue...
Is one that transfers power ultimately from this family to the people.
That there needs to be a structure in place so that those folks who are currently governing Syria but don't have blood on their hands can get into a real conversation.
Okay.
So then we got a follow-up from one of the funnier guys in the press corps there.
Now, just for a second, a couple of very brief things.
One, the mafia-like crime family, as you said, who's the godfather here?
Do you really think that Assad is smart enough, maybe ruthless enough, is he smart enough to actually be the head of this family, or do you think that it's his...
I love this.
Is he the godfather?
If she's gonna bring it up as a model, as an analog, she's gonna have to deal with questions like this.
I personally would have said, is this anything like the monarchy in Britain?
Exactly.
No, those are royals.
You see, there's a difference.
If you are running a crime family in the Middle East, you're a dictator, you're a mob boss.
But if you're in the West, like the Netherlands or the United Kingdom, you're a royal.
And so it continues with another funny follow-up.
Well, I'm not going to dissect the insides of this family, except that he is the president of the country.
He bears full responsibility.
But do you really...
Just to follow on that one point, Matt, do you really believe that if he were to step down or be taken out of power, that the violence in Syria is going to stop?
Do you really think he's the sole person that's calling the shots here?
He is the symbol, the president of this regime that is leading this violence.
We saw this interview with him some months ago where he claimed that he wasn't issuing the orders, etc.
From our perspective, it is...
So he's saying something very interesting here.
By the way, that question's a great question.
Oh!
And then she cuts him off.
She cuts her off.
She said she brought up the symbol thing.
It's a symbol?
Yeah.
Then what difference does it make?
It's a symbol.
It's a symbol.
Yeah.
And the other one is where you think the violence will stop.
Now, this is the kind of person, whoever that woman was, who should be on CNN instead of these dingbats.
Okay, whatever.
Am I pretty?
How's my eye makeup?
Yeah, that's the problem.
She's totally the problem.
This woman should be working real media.
Yeah, she's not really camera friendly.
Oh.
Well, I mean, for me, it would be fine.
I'm just a television executive.
If you look at some of the people they have at CNN, a lot of them aren't camera friendly.
They got that pasty look.
So I thought that was fascinating.
Third thing here.
Please.
If the top of the Syrian regime is a crime family, what's the administration's view of the other institutions of government there?
My impression has been that the administration wants to keep what it can going forward.
Well, Paul, this is going to be a decision for the Syrian people to make.
We're not going to dictate the future structure or the personnel in a Syrian system that's becoming increasingly democratic.
No, we wouldn't do that.
The briefing after this meeting is, hey, the crime family analogy.
Done!
Yeah, over with that.
Don't bring that up again.
That sucked.
No, I think she knew she sucked.
Because everyone kept bringing it back.
Oh, crap.
So let me tell you what is happening, which is very interesting.
The French...
Are preparing...
Let me read from the...
Here we go.
from the press release.
The French Air Force has organized a large-scale, week-long exercise with the British Royal Air Force, which is expected to send over tornado fighters, aerial tankers, and AWACS aircraft as part of the enhanced cooperation agreed between the two countries.
That would be Turkey.
The exercise, dubbed Southern Mistral, will be held March 21st to 25th.
And you can bet that this is a setup because this is exactly...
I'm sorry.
Is that the right one?
No, that was the wrong one.
Crap, I'm sorry.
That was the Libyan one.
That was 2010.
Yeah, that was in November of 2010.
Southern Mistral.
Here's the one for 2011.
It's also called Southern Mistral.
Or mistrial.
The Turkish and U.S. air forces continue to combine their assets and share tactics in large force employments during Exercise Antolian Falcon, March 5th through the 16th.
Their specialty, SEAD. Which stands for Suppression of Enemy Air Defenses.
So I think having...
It's so much the same script that I misread it.
So we had Southern Mistral just before we went in and created the no-fly zone over Libya.
Now we have U.S. forces and Turkey getting ready.
Just happened to be practicing for this suppression of enemy air defenses, which is indeed the problem with the no-fly zone over Syria.
It's crazy.
So they are most definitely...
You mean British and French with Turkey.
You said U.S. No, it's U.S. I thought on this occasion the French and British forces will perform composite air operations specific air raid.
That was Libya.
No, I'm reading from the 21st to 25th, March 2011.
No, this is 2012, John.
Oh, I'm sorry, okay.
Oh, there was a 2010 one, too.
Yeah, I'm reading this every year.
What was in 2010?
That was a real practice.
No, this is from the Armed Forces News Service.
Oh, okay, sorry.
It's very confusing if they don't change the code names.
Yeah.
Yeah, you're right.
It is Antolian Falcon 2012.
So it's the same mission, only it's the 2012 version.
So I think...
Suppression of air defenses means...
Blowing up anti-aircraft.
Blowing up and also sending out those electronic attacks.
Oh, right.
That's what we did before we took Iraq.
We blew up all their communications infrastructure with electronic warfare.
But I think that still...
Well, anyway, so then I looked at the Syrian National Council, just to give some data points, because there's really not much more I can do.
The chairman of the Syrian National Council, which is recognized as the government, so they don't even recognize Assad anymore, because he's a mafia crime family leader.
This guy is Dr.
Burhan Galioun.
And he apparently doesn't even live in Syria.
He lives in Paris.
And he was educated in Paris.
I had a little Wikipedia page on him.
In the 70s, he published a manifesto for democracy.
And...
Oh, this is how I got to the Golan Heights.
He's the guy that got in cahoots with the Israelis and resolved the Golan Heights dispute.
And the Golan Heights, as I said, is about the Trans-Arabian pipeline, tap line they call it.
Which goes from the Gulf there, from Saudi Arabia, this is why that's interesting, all the way through the Golan Heights to Lebanon.
And its heyday was an important factor in the global trade of petroleum, helping with the economic development of Lebanon as well as American and Middle Eastern political relations.
So, I just don't understand the actors, and I don't think you have an idea either.
I know the Russians have got a lot of action going.
They're having talks all over the place and it's not being reported on at all.
And I think the model, because these things seem to me to be set in stone once they are underway, which means that Assad will be killed in a bunker or a spider hole or something at some point.
Wait a minute.
He'd be in a wine cellar and they'll gun him down.
We've already had...
Let's think about this.
We've already had the spider hole.
We had the sewer pipe.
The sewer pipe.
The sewer pipe.
Colonel Mustard in the library with the lead pipe.
I think Assad being a mafia crime fan, he has to go out in a blaze of glory.
He's got to go out and like, it's got to be a handgun fight.
Yeah, a handgun fight.
Or one of those big guns like in Scarface.
Yeah, say hello to my little friend.
Yeah, that would work.
That would be good.
Blows out the door and then he gets shot down.
Meanwhile...
He was a belligerent.
If I don't know why these guys can't figure this out early in this game, because it's happened over and over again, and just say, look, I'm screwed.
I think they're surrounded by too many yes-men.
He doesn't have good advisors.
He should just bail, take as much money as he can and move to Switzerland.
Well, he got that offer.
The Russians actually offered him.
The foreign minister from Russia went there and said, Dude, give it up.
Come on, you can snack on all the electricity you want over here, you ghost.
Meanwhile, Israel remains under attack.
They keep getting bombs lobbed into their territory.
And they're fighting back.
They say they killed a top terrorist in the Kaizi organization.
No, the guy's name is Kaizi.
Who knows?
But this is along the Egyptian border.
And there were two words that popped up.
That Ehud Barak, I guess, is he the war minister now?
I can't keep track of it.
I can't keep track of it either.
He said, you know, well, luckily our Iron Dome is working.
They have something called the Iron Dome.
What's the Iron Dome?
Apparently it's a rocket shield.
And he goes on to say, wait until we pull out our magic wand.
Who said this?
Ehud Barak.
From Egypt?
Or from Israel?
Yeah.
So he says the Iron Dome worked, and so none of the projectiles landed.
They got blown up.
He says, but wait until...
Ehud Barak.
Barak said the classified...
Oh, the Iron Dome.
I see what it is.
It's a rocket launcher.
It sends a bunch of crap into the air and whatever comes over it gets blown up to smithereens.
It's like the Patriots shooting down the scuds.
No, it's Patriots or single missiles.
This is like an array.
I'm looking at the Iron Dome now.
It's a big array.
What's the magic wand then?
I have no idea.
I like it.
It costs $40,000 in missiles.
The system costs $50 million.
The designer is the Raphael Advanced Defense Systems.
It's Israeli?
Israeli?
Well, Raphael Advanced Defense Systems probably is Israeli.
Yep.
It's government-owned.
Yeah.
In Haifa.
Oh!
It's military.
It looks like a big box of tubes.
Yeah, a big box of tubes.
But what is the magic wand?
Because he says here...
I bet you they do the same thing.
Request the acceleration of plans to operate and deploy additional Iron Dome batteries and complete the development and deployment of the magic wand.
Sounds like a Harry Potter thing.
We're rolling out Harry Potter.
Let's find it.
Let's see who can find it first.
Chat room, can you find the magic wand?
Yeah, that's a cheap way out.
I don't know, man.
I don't know.
Because magic wand is a hard Google.
Magic Wand Israel.
Maybe that'll work.
There it is.
You got the Magic Wand?
David Sling.
It's also called David Sling.
Cool.
Oh, that's for David and Goliath?
Wow!
It's a little missile.
It's an interceptor missile used by the David Sling system.
I beat you, chat room.
Yeah.
It's an Israeli Defense Forces military system being built and developed by Israeli defense contractor Raphael.
That was the key to the search.
Oh, yeah.
And the American defense contractor Raytheon, also known as the Patriot Missile System Company.
You know what Raytheon does?
They only get to make up the name.
It's like, we'll build it.
This will intercept medium to long-range rockets and cruise missiles, such as those possessed by Hezbollah.
A million a pop for each of these things it fires off.
That's a lot more than Mickey's Sig Sauer, that's for sure.
A million a pop.
Cool!
Cool!
Fireworks.
Anyway, so...
The battle of the Scud missiles versus the Patriot missiles in Gulf War I. It was a well-known fact in Israel and then finally became a fact only years later in the United States that not one Patriot missile ever hit anything and all those Scuds that were blowing up were just breaking up on their own.
Yeah.
Because they were junk.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Anyway, the end of our defense talk for the day.
Yeah, I mean, I don't have much more to say about it.
I mean, I wish I could, but it's just like, you know, I really just don't understand it.
We'll figure it out.
It's just a matter of time.
Yeah, we will.
So it'll be a special show for people to help us.
It'll be our magic wand show.
I was very disappointed not to hear a Dvorak Horowitz Unplugged show this week.
It was a pretty slow week.
Our scheduling problems.
Yeah, hello.
Greece defaulted.
Slow week?
Yeah, but did they really?
Well, Moody's...
You don't know.
We'll do a show on Tuesday and we'll explain it all.
Well, let me just say, because I did a little bit of research, here's the actual text.
March 9th, Moody's Investor Service says that it considers Greece to have defaulted as per Moody's default definitions.
That's Moody's.
Yeah.
So they've defaulted.
By Moody's standards, but nobody else says so.
Yeah, well, Fitch said so.
Okay, well, that's just by Moody's and Fitch's standards.
Nobody else said so.
Yes, the ISDA, the International Swaps and Derivatives Association, said it's a default, so this triggers...
Well, that's Moody's and Fitch's and the ISDA, but nobody else said so.
I guess you're right.
They didn't really default.
Because Monday...
Monday, there'll be another meeting somewhere in the EU, and they're going to decide what really happens.
But March 23rd still appears to be the date, because they don't have all the payoff in.
This is just to tide them over.
It's like a bridge loan.
So did you see that video about the EU did that...
Yeah, but it's a crazy woman standing there and turning into some sort of Tarantino movie.
Yeah, I had it in the show notes a week ago, but you can't play it on the show because it doesn't make any sense if you can't see it.
No, it's just music.
Yeah, that's exactly what they want.
Euroland to be.
They want it to be a circle, keep out all the foreigners, the Chinas, the Saudis, keep them all out.
We're drawing the carts in a circle, the wagons.
Yeah, it's pretty weird.
And the Germans...
Some people should...
It's on my blog.
It's in the show notes.
Okay, go check on the show notes.
Another thing that was kind of amusing to me, CNN. Did you see these CNN reports from Fukushima?
Yeah, before you go there, one second.
Just finishing up Euroland, if I can.
Yeah.
The Germans have now once again opened up the conversation about creating an EU constitution.
This is what led to the Lisbon Treaty in the first place.
Nobody's going to approve this thing.
Everyone will approve it.
They'll approve it from the parliament.
That's what they'll do.
Of course, because they've already taken control.
First they had to get the compact, right?
So now all the control lies in Brussels.
And if you don't adhere to the control, then they send in the troika and then they basically take away your money.
This will be good for the show, because this will give you an opportunity to read something, and it'll have a whole, because you know this Constitution's not going to be like the American Constitution, you know, a small 20-page document.
It's going to be 5,000 pages.
Just a reminder for people that this show kind of started around the time of the Lisbon Treaty, when I read the Lisbon Treaty and its protocols, where it turns out, if you're in Europe and you think the death penalty is not in play, you're wrong.
Why?
Because if you run away from the police while you're being apprehended and they shoot and kill you, it is a fair kill.
You don't think you can be picked up?
You can't.
If you have a communicable disease, which can be AIDS, it could be the flu, you can be incarcerated.
This is in your Lisbon Treaty in the protocols.
So now they're just going to put it into one document, make it easier for the PowerPoint.
And, well, that's it for me, for Europe.
Okay, yes, I did.
Screw it, yeah.
Actually, I like that stuff.
Well, we've discussed this ad nauseum.
I know, but a lot of people have not heard a lot of the discussion.
I think you should go back to it.
And I asked a member of parliament in the Netherlands, Pechtold, I said, this is when I was still on the radio show before they took...
Oh, this is the radio show that they threw you off the show and then burned down the station because of some stuff you said about the government, that show?
Yeah, not just that station, but it's sister station, the jazz station, too.
They're like, hey, you know what?
Screw that station, too.
We'll take them all down.
Yeah, that show.
In other words, the stations that, because of you, you probably never work again in Holland on a radio station ever?
Correct.
Okay.
I just wanted to get that straight.
So I asked him this exact question.
I said, why is it that in the protocols it says that you can be killed fairly if you run away from the cops and if you have a communicable disease that you can be incarcerated?
And he says, you know, I don't know.
I will ask the parliament.
And he asked the question.
In parliament they have a session where you can ask questions and guess what?
It never got answered.
What?
How come they couldn't answer it?
Shut up.
And he actually said, I was talking to Adam Curry this morning on the radio, and he asked me how this can be possible.
And I'd like that question answered.
And they just don't answer it.
They just don't answer it.
I was on C-SPAN in Holland.
They just don't answer it.
They don't give a crap.
So...
This is not good.
But this was 2008.
And now the ESM has been voted on, ratified, they signed it.
Now they can just do cash calls.
Hey, we need money.
And by the way, the Netherlands is now on the hit list.
The Gitmo Nation lowlands, because their economy is tanking all of a sudden.
It's at a complete standstill.
All their mortgages are underwater, and they've now been given warning shots.
But when the troika says, you need to give us 500 billion euros, you have to comply.
Otherwise, they come in, and then they will take it from you, and they will make sure all of the austerity is put into place properly.
It's a complete outrage, and some people see it.
But, you know, when we've got ghost hunters and preppers and all this stuff is on, and swamp people, all this stuff is on worldwide, you know, people just sitting there hypnotized.
In fact, if you want to play at the end of the show, I do have a clip of Chris Dodd, the famous congressman who, Senator, became the head of the MPAA. There's a lot of clips about, I mean, there's a whole bunch of hearings on C-SPAN about SOPA and PIPA and what are we going to do?
And I think the most interesting one, I do have a couple of clips about that, I'll skip the other thing for now, is this is the big meeting of the Association of Attorney Generals, all the attorney generals of all the states.
Yeah, I saw some of this, yeah.
All they were doing was moaning about software piracy.
Oh, well this is because the cyber bill is about to be introduced.
Well, no.
That's a different series of...
That was worse.
I saw that, too.
Yeah, I have some good stuff from that.
Actually, skipping even further ahead, the idiot congresspeople that were grilling people about the cybersecurity bill were just...
It's just unbelievable.
You know, when some old Chinese woman asking about root kits, she doesn't know what she's talking about.
So you realize that I already played a few clips from this on the last show, right?
Yeah.
But you don't have my idiot clips.
Which one do we roll out first, Johnny Boy?
Well, let's see.
Should we go with idiot congressman talking about the cyber bill?
Well, let's play here.
Try to tell me what this woman actually says with idiot congress...
I have her name.
I'll give it to you after the clip.
Her name is Idiot.
Idiot congresswoman number one.
The part that's really, to me, quite frightening is that nobody knows what they don't know.
And we're looking at you and you're saying, too, that there's a lot of things you don't know, too.
And we look upon you as experts.
And I'm hoping that we can build some incentives here with a sort of a sharing of information that goes beyond...
Some of your commercial type of concerns.
Because I'm looking ahead to...
This is even getting more and more complicated.
As we develop more tablets and smartphones and whatever, that we're losing control of the cybersecurity aspect of it.
And...
The software aspect, I think you brought up, Dr.
Amoroso, is really very important, the education of that, and whether or not we're actually kind of building our own principles and standards into that, too.
So that's just a comment, and I really do...
I appreciate your being here and I think I'm learning more and more every time.
An entire minute of my life I will never have returned to me.
Now I realize listening to these two women, this was a woman, Doris Matsui out of Sacramento.
California, representing California, thank you very much.
Nickname Idiot.
I now realize why they limit the time on these people.
Because they're idiots.
She says, you know, we know what we know and we don't know what we don't know.
But she said something very important, John, which I can tell you why she said that.
Did you hear the word sharing in there?
Yeah, maybe.
We need to share information.
This has been a theme of these hearings.
I mean, you played it last Thursday, but I never saw the hearings until yesterday when they replayed the whole thing, and I got these idiots.
Allow me to read to you a few paragraphs from House Resolution, another proposed bill, 3523.
The title of this bill to provide for the sharing of certain cyber threat intelligence and cyber threat information between the intelligence community and cybersecurity entities.
Yeah.
Just a couple things.
The Director of National Intelligence shall establish procedures to allow elements of the intelligence community to share cyber threat intelligence with private sector entities and to encourage the sharing of intelligence.
This is where McAfee and your ISP start spying on you.
The Director of National Intelligence, DNI, shall issue guidelines providing that the head of an element of the intelligence community may, as the head of such element, consider as necessary to carry out this subsection.
And what can they do?
Grant a security clearance on a temporary or permanent basis to an employee or officer of a certified entity, which will be McAfee, AT&T, Comcast, Time Warner.
Grant a security clearance on a temporary basis and approval to use appropriate facilities to expedite the security clearance for these persons.
And here we go.
Notwithstanding any other provision, blah, blah, blah.
Use cybersecurity systems to identify and obtain cyber threat information to protect the rights and property of such protected entity.
So they can spy on you just to make sure that you're not doing anything bad.
And they can share such cyber threat information with any other entity designated by such protected entity, including if specifically designated the federal government.
So this is basically the brown shirts, the cyber brown shirts.
If shared with the federal government...
This information and the persons providing the information shall be exempt from disclosure under Section 552, Title 5, United States Code, so you're immune from prosecution, and shall not be used by the federal government for regulatory purposes.
Yeah, I'm sure.
This is what this is about.
Directly, anyway.
Yeah.
This is as abhorrent as the NDAA. This is where your ISP is encouraged to spy on you.
To make sure you're not doing anything.
You're not a cyber threat.
A cyber threat.
And that's why...
So this idiot congresswoman, who has no...
All she's doing is following the script, and it's her...
She has to basically propagate the sharing meme.
We have to be working together.
And Dr.
Amorejo, he's at the top of the list of spying.
Yeah, he was, I didn't get any clips from him because he was a little much.
I mean, most of these guys are just pretty much saying the same thing.
But I do want to, before we actually, let's take a break after this, before I go to the SOPA PIPA guys.
You don't want to play Idiot Congresswoman No.
2?
Yeah, let's play Idiot Congresswoman No.
2.
Now, this one here, by the way, I want to mention before you moan about losing a minute of your life, this was actually almost five minutes long.
I cut it down to like a minute.
Oh, by the way, I wasn't complaining about you, and I enjoyed the clip.
It's just the waste of space and human flesh.
Well, this one here, which is Marsha Blackburn from Tennessee, a Republican, is worse.
I think that one of the things that helps us as we work through the process is being certain that consumers are educated.
So if I could get that bit of information and then when we look at the hacker attacks that are out there, Some of the anonymous attacks, some of those, there's one in the news today, or I think there are five people that they are bringing forward on charges.
What kind of government-imposed performance requirements would help keep pace with some of the technological evolution that you're seeing in these cyber attacks?
If we were to do a government top-down sort of structure to try to deal with cyber enemies, would that be giving a signal to that cyber enemies?
Is that kind of too much information for them to be able to work around?
So with that, those are the questions that I'd love to hear from you on.
The trends, the cost, what we are doing, what we're not doing, dealing with consumers, how you're educating them, and then looking at the attacks, the cautions you would give to us there.
And with that, anyone that wants to respond.
What's her name?
I've got to make a list now.
I'm going to make my own Schindler's list, except this is reverse.
Marsha Blackburn.
Marsha Blackburn.
Get her out.
She is...
This was only part of it.
And there was a third one, which I didn't bother with because I was getting so upset.
Well, that was Susan Collins.
Oh, no, no.
I didn't hear...
You had the Susan Collins one already.
Yeah.
This other one, Donna Christensen, the Democrat from the Virgin Islands, she went on...
She was reading stuff as...
I mean, I'm surprised she could even pronounce that stuff.
Yeah, I saw her.
About rootkits and all this other stuff.
These women know none of this.
Denial of service.
I know.
Denial of service.
They know nothing.
They're complete idiots and they're just reading from a script that one of their staffers wrote.
And then if there's any...
I would love to have seen one of these guys sit there and say, Congresswoman, no offense, but I have the sense that you don't know what you're talking about.
Yeah, but instead, Dr.
Amar A-Hole sits there and belittles them and gives these...
Remember, he was like, well, my mother has a computer and it's probably attacking China right now.
Yeah.
And she needs to be in the cloud.
She needs to be in the cloud.
Well, apparently, they simulated a cyber attack on New York City's power supply in a demonstration to the Senate.
To push through this cyber bill.
And there's a number of bills, but this 3523, whatever it is, which is in the show notes, you can get the marked up PDF. That's part of it.
And here's what Douchette, Senator Susan Collins said.
The mock attack on the city during a summer heat wave was very compelling!
So, you know, now it's just gotten to the point where it's like, you know, we'll just make it all up and these people are going to get so much power.
I'm happy I'm on Linux Ubuntu now.
I mean, I can't do much about my...
You're really on Linux full-time?
Full-time.
Except in the studio.
Except in the studio, yeah, full-time.
Yeah.
Full-time, baby.
And I love it.
And I have all my cookies turned off.
I'm a prepper.
I'm going to show myself mood by donating to No Agenda.
Imagine all the people who could do that.
Oh yeah, that'd be fab.
Yeah, on No Agenda.
I'm a prepper, baby!
In the morning.
You heard it here.
First on No Agenda, Adam Curry is a preppy.
Matt Hyde, Brighton, East Sussex, $123.12.
We want to thank him for contributing to the show.
The donation is to celebrate the birth of my first new human resource on Monday by Caesarian.
I'd like a double milf for my wife mixing with some karma to help the operation to deliver a new slave go well.
I'd like a douchebag, a douchebag outing for David Cameron.
Douchebag!
Trying to destroy the NHS. Love the show.
Alright, let me hand that milf karma to you.
Milf!
That's what, mother, I like this.
You've got karma.
Carl Barron in Malmzo, I believe.
Oh, Malmo.
I think it's Malmo.
Malmo.
Hold on a second, John.
I've got to restart the jingle machine here.
We're having some delay problems.
You can keep reading as long as we did.
Anyway, 85-84.
I've been listening and donating since 2010.
It looks like my latest monthly recurring donation put me over the top for knighthood.
So I'm kicking in the extra scratch to round it off as 11-11.
Also requesting some relationship karma as my girlfriend, formerly known as getting laid karma.
So his girlfriend's parents don't approve, because they don't approve of him.
Greetings from the foot of, he's actually in Japan, in the active volcano, or near the active volcano, she's Tsukurajima.
Tsukurajima.
Tsukurajima.
Alright, here's some getting laid, Carmen, for you.
Thank you, my friend.
You've got karma.
Sweet!
7333 comes from Seth Harper in Morgantown, West Virginia.
7533.
Did I say 70 what?
You said 73.
No, 7533.
Detail.
You need some slide whistle karma for his upcoming trip to Las Vegas.
He's going to the March Madness.
Where is the slide whistle?
I was playing it earlier.
Any wins from roulette on the number 33 will be forwarded to the show.
Thanks and keep up the great work.
Wouldn't that be funny if you hit one?
No, it's possible.
Yeah, I know you can be sure.
Wait, wait.
You've got karma.
Ah, that's super 33 roulette karma.
There you go.
Lawrence McBride, Sir Lawrence McBride, to you in Moortown, Merseyside.
Uh-oh.
6969, another show in a row.
Propagating that formula.
Where someone comes in with 6969.
He wants to thank Mimi for getting a night ring to him.
Karma for a job interview on Wednesdays.
He's fine whether he gets the job or not, but let the universe decide.
Loves the show.
You've got...
Hey, hey, don't be giving away slide whistle karma if not requested.
No more free slide whistle karma.
Andrew Gardner in Avenue, Maryland.
6969, unbelievable.
It's amazing anyone can do this.
Damien Taman in Perth, our favorite place.
6969 again.
Why?
Because give and thou shalt receive.
Also need some karma.
You've got karma.
You've got karma.
How long can we go on?
Opal Coulter in Sugar Hill, Georgia.
69-69.
In the morning, gentlemen.
First-time donor here requesting a de-douching.
Recently, I ran into a bit of legal trouble and promised I'd donate to your show if I got unscathed.
So here it is.
Pre-Karma Works.
Sunday's show will be airing on my birthday, so please give me a shout-out and a MILF. We need her on the birthday.
Put her on the birthday list.
Is she not on there?
Nope.
That's Opal Kultar 2.
Hold on.
Yeah.
Go ahead.
Keep reading.
Give me a shout-out and a MILF. She needs a MILF, dedouching, and karma.
And who was that to?
She needs a shot at herself.
Herself?
Oh, it's a single mom.
Yeah.
Send pictures.
Here we go.
You've been deduced.
You've got karma.
Nice.
Well, welcome, Opel.
I hope you get out of your legal trouble.
No, she did.
No, this is pre-karma.
Oh, pre-karma.
Okay, well, whatever.
Mike...
Mike...
Mike Peters, who would also be female.
Mike Peters in Vianen...
Vianen...
Utrecht.
Vianen Utrecht.
Vianen Utrecht.
Vianen.
Vianen.
Yeah.
Fian in Utrecht.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's what I said.
Micah.
$64.
Please wish my husband, Martin, a very happy birthday today.
Martin.
Martin.
March 11th.
He's on the list.
He's on the list.
Martin.
Marcia Straub.
Or Straub to you.
Cranberry.
It's a donation for my husband Dylan's birthday.
So a birthday shout out.
We got that down.
Some job karma would also be appreciated.
He's been submitted for a position that he'd be perfect for.
Not to mention that the pay would be great.
And we really want this one to come through.
He loves your show and listens to every episode.
He brings up no agenda all constantly.
He's incredibly boring for doing...
No, I didn't say that.
He's actually listening to the show right now.
Aww.
That's love.
That's love.
He thinks you guys are all a bag of chips.
You're all that and a bag of chips.
My words.
He loves the soundboard and he applies for your jingles just to...
He applies the jingles to everything he can.
He's an all-around awesome fan and an awesome guy above all.
Well, great.
Let me hand out some karma.
That's very funny.
I like that.
You've got karma.
And Marcia, you should be listening to yourself too.
Yeah, I might learn some things.
Carl Middleton in Ocean Grove, Victoria.
Double nickels on the dime.
Long time boner.
First time donor.
Like to be de-douched and need some karma for a new job and move to the country so my daughter can grow up without Sharia law being pushed down her throat.
You've been de-douched.
You've got karma.
Oscar Sir Oscar Nadal in Tecati, California.
Double nickels on the dime.
The pre-karma call works.
I told myself that if I got an award for my scooter restoration on the high roller scooter rally...
Wait, we did this one.
We did this one.
It must have gotten through.
Uh...
Okay.
Yeah, we did that one last time.
Thanks, Oscar.
As of night, we can always...
Yeah, we can always thank our nights, of course.
Arcata, California.
Double nickels on the dime.
Fernando Yanez.
Yanez.
Yanez.
Here's my donation.
I'm going to be 28 years old today.
So I'd like a birthday shout-out and some karma for my wife and father in their job hunt.
All right.
You've got karma.
A Frenchman, Peter Luckraft.
What?
He's in France.
He's masculine in Midi Pyrenees.
It could be Spain.
No, Midi Pyrenees is France.
$55, no comment.
Hey, you know, can I just say something about a French guy?
Yeah.
So there's this French guy at the market here in Austin.
And, you know, these French guys, they don't talk.
The farmer's market or the regular market?
The farmer's market.
And they don't really talk, you know, but it was raining and everything.
And I wanted to buy some beef, and he didn't have any.
He said, I don't sell beef.
I said, what do you got?
I got some, you want red meat?
I said, yeah, have some duck.
And Mickey's, like, nose was like, hmm.
I'm like, well, what should we do?
And this guy starts talking about how to make this.
And all of a sudden, he's like, yes, I'm from Bordeaux.
And, you know, all my ducks and chickens, I have to smuggle them in from Canada because they have no GMO.
And I was really fascinated.
And he suggested that first I put some balsamic vinegar that I fried up, and then add some fig preserve.
And then he said that way the duck would just be fantastic.
Did you buy the duck?
Yeah, of course I did.
Why would Mickey turn her nose up at duck?
Duck is fantastic.
Yeah, I'm just saying.
But it was interesting that...
I guess you don't need duck in Holland.
No.
I guess what I'm saying is that the French guys are very reserved and very quiet and they don't say a lot.
But then you get them talking and you kind of get into the conversation.
Then all of a sudden he's talking about his illegal importation.
Ducks.
He's bringing in because they've got no GMOs.
He had blue, because they're heirloom chickens.
He has chickens and ducks.
And he had bluefoot.
I think it was bluefoot chickens.
Does that ring a bell?
Not to me.
I mean, Mimi might know.
She keeps up with all the chicken breeds.
Yeah, isn't she releasing her egg book?
It's coming out.
She's got two chapters left to finish.
Bluefoot chicken.
I'm going to look in the book of knowledge real quick.
Yeah.
Well, let me play the jingle, though.
Yeah, it's a Canadian breed of chicken, bred to resemble the French chicken, the poulet de breasts, the breasts on chicken, which, by the way, is the greatest chicken in the world.
I was in a place in Germany once, a guy brought one of those things.
So, yeah, no, so this guy, you should have got his card.
I don't need his card.
I know where to find him.
Mickey just sent me a text message.
She said, hey, don't talk about me like that, like I turned up my nose.
Well, she did.
I saw it.
Because I looked at her and she went like, oh, duck?
Really?
But then when the guy started talking about it, we really got into it.
So several breeders who have been relocated to California, allowing the breed to survive and flourish in the U.S. No, he said that the Gitmo cops came in and they basically just took away all these chickens.
Not his, but you can't get blue-foot chickens in North America, in the United States, only in Canada.
That's not true anymore.
In wake of the Canadian cull, it was a cull that killed them all.
All stocks remaining are now in California.
And they're GMO. And the blue, I don't know about that.
Yeah, that's what he says.
Well, that could be bull crap.
Usually people who, I tell you this, people who do heirloom breeds of anything are really not doing any GMO anything.
No, he's not.
No, nobody is.
I mean, I don't believe these blue-foot Californians are GMO'd.
I think you may be wrong.
Well, anyway.
And it's called now the California Bluefoot.
I'm happy with my French connection.
And the guy will probably be gone next week because someone listening to this show is like, Hey!
Hey, let's go down to 4th and Lamar.
We got us a frog who's got illegal birds.
Come on!
Come on, butch!
Let's go get us that frog.
Is this your version of a Texan?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Russell Smith in Huntington.
Back to our, excuse me, back to the donation list after discussing Mr.
Lovecraft.
Intermezzo.
Russell Smith in Huntington something.
He's in Cam, Cam, I don't know, it says Cam's.
53-42 Russell from Gitmo Nation East looking for a spot of 40th birthday karma on the 11th.
So that's today.
Give him the karma.
Yeah, and he's on the list, of course.
You've got karma.
I guess I was just saying, hey French guys, we don't hate you.
Not only do we appreciate any donation, but you can pony up.
We know you're listening.
Yeah, I know.
Any food tip you have is welcome.
It's appreciated, yeah.
I will check in on Thursday.
The French do like to put fruit with their meat.
Yeah, I will check in on Thursday after we've tried the recipe.
Okay.
Duck can be, by the way, you don't want to overcook a duck.
You want it red.
A little rareness in the breast.
Don't read the name here.
Read the kiss cut.
I'm just reading Tristan Kerrigan, Wilson Kerrigan, Padbury.
Yeah, okay.
Hey, firstly referred to me as kiss cut.
No, that's different.
I'm talking about Kristen Kerrigan.
Oh, okay.
The Padbury.
The Kerrigan.
The Tristans.
Oh, the Tristans.
Mine's in Wagga Wagga.
Right.
I'm sorry.
My mistake.
Yeah, Kiss Cutting.
Centurion Gouting.
I don't want my boss hearing my name as I know he listens.
It's been a while since I donated.
I was on the $5 a month blah, blah, blah.
Wait a minute.
Why wouldn't you want your boss to know if he listens too?
Isn't that cool?
You could give your boss a shout out.
I don't understand.
Work hours.
Also, call out non-donating South Africans as a cheap-ass bunch of douchebags.
I got your money's worth for 50 bucks.
He's also complaining about the, just on a side note, we do have these problems with PayPal.
We have one that's been really somewhat weird.
We got Dave Koss who had a 33-33 monthly subscription and he all of a sudden...
And PayPal tells him that we canceled it.
Yeah, that's bullcrap.
You know what?
I finally was thinking about that today because that's been going back and forth.
I think what it might be is the following.
We are not like the typical, you know, whatever you do, track them down and keep charging them, which you can actually, there's a box damn near you can check on PayPal.
If your car changes anything, and it changes every two years or every year for some people.
Yeah, it expires.
It gets killed.
Yeah.
And so they blame us because we check the box, which is the amenable box, which means we're not going to try to screw anybody by making them continue to pay forever.
Oh, so it's our fault then.
So then it's automatically our fault.
But I think it's unfair for PayPal to blame us in the way that they do.
It makes it look like we're douchebags.
It makes us look like douchebags.
It should be, you've been cancelled by rule.
Or by, yeah.
By rule.
Yeah, well, or something like because these guys don't want to screw you, you know.
Well, they're not going to do that.
Or how about a heads up, you know.
It's like, well, you know, if you'd like to continue your subscription is what it's called, then, you know, say yes.
Give them a shot at it.
Say, hey, would you like to continue with the new card?
That's what they should do.
Yeah.
But they don't.
That's what bothers me.
Yeah, it's very bothersome.
I don't like it.
Yeah, I mean, we had, not to belabor the point, I'm sure it's boring to some people, but it's not boring to us.
We had, like, when we started doing the show, we had this, you know, just a PayPal account that I had when we just, you know, started collecting on that.
And then we switched to the No Agenda account, a specific account for our show so we don't have to worry about mixing numbers and the IRS hates that kind of thing.
Right.
And once we did that, the other one just essentially just has a bunch of old subscriptions that still go into it.
And it's down to almost nothing.
Yeah, they just all went away.
Because the subscriptions have all expired because of this method that we...
Well, the upsetting thing is, of course, that it's really the monthly donations that give us a base.
It's probably about, what would you say, 20%?
I think it's on some times when we have a bad week, it's 30% and 40%.
Right.
Right.
But you just see that diminish over time.
It just goes away.
If we stopped doing the show, their money would just...
I mean, it would be...
Unless you keep hounding people and mentioning that if you go check your $5 subscription, you're going to discover that you don't have a $5 subscription.
I'd say at least half the people have lost their subscription.
Yeah, and which is bad, because people think that they're supporting the show, and actually they're not.
Right.
Anyway...
Yeah, well, on that happy note, thank you all so much.
None of them are complaining.
But no, I will say once again, thank you very much to our anonymous donor.
I will say that he's from Florida, and that was a beautiful thing, and I hope that we have more people of this ilk who contributed in this amount, because...
It makes me happy and motivates me.
I don't know about you, but I get really motivated when we have a good show this way.
And I'm happy to go and read bills and look at C-SPAN again and give up some form of a life.
Because honestly, I've noticed with the South by Southwest thing...
Like, you know, we've gone out, we've gone into town like three times this week.
It's horrible.
I spent all this time catching up.
I'm tired.
I get, I feel sick because I'm around people.
You know, I have no resistance.
And let me just say one thing about South by Southwest.
Because it just, I remembered this.
So, they have all these stupid gadgets.
Right?
And everyone's trying to find the great gadget, the great app, whatever it is.
Here's the stock answer, because all these things are like, who needs that?
Oh, there's a shopping cart that will follow you around when you're shopping.
I say, who needs that?
Oh, there's a skateboard that will, you know, you think, go forward, and it moves forward.
I say, who needs that?
Stock answer for all these gadgets you don't need?
Well, listen, if you were in a wheelchair, man, you'd really appreciate it.
That is now the stock answer at South by.
If you were in a wheelchair, you'd appreciate it.
Hey man, if you were in a wheelchair, you'd like this app, okay?
So shut up already.
Because you can't say anything.
What are you going to say?
I'm against people in wheelchairs?
That's the conversation ender.
That's the buzzkill.
It's the shut up line of the day.
Shut up line.
Anyway, thank you again.
By the way, who needs a cart following you around the store?
It's creepy.
I got into the whole conversation, man.
Then it was like, well, if you're in a wheelchair, then it's cool.
End of conversation.
Pass the bread.
Yeah, you're right.
I'm sorry.
There was another one, like, you hang this brick around your neck with a sensor in it, and you put your iPad or your iPhone in this little swivel dinghy, and then as you're walking around, presumably you need two hands free to jerk off watching your porn, then if you move around, then the iPad swivels, so you always have view of it.
I mean, and you're literally wearing a slave necklace.
But you know, if you're in a wheelchair, you'd be very happy with that.
It's just crazy.
Yeah, I know.
That's South by Southwest.
The technology portion of it.
Anyway, there is one place you can go to check on your subscription and also to donate.
And we love our 2012 nights.
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Monday day!
Matt Hyde congratulates his new human resource who will be born tomorrow.
Vice is airing on the 12th of March.
Congratulations.
Micah Peters congratulates her husband, Martha.
A little bit of special birthday karma there.
His birthday is today.
Marcia Straub says happy birthday to her husband, Dylan, also celebrating today.
And Russell Smith congratulates himself on his big 4-0 celebrating today the 11th of March.
Fernando Yanez, he turned 28 on the 8th, and we congratulate him.
And Opal Coulter, she says happy birthday to herself, and we're very happy for all of you.
And thank you for supporting the No Agenda program, the best podcast in the universe.
And then we do have a night today, which is nice, so we should probably cross swords here, John.
Very nice.
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You're more than welcome to step forward, sir.
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And Wenches and Beer.
Thank you again.
It keeps us going.
Winches and beer.
Winches and beer.
And I really, I mean, PBS is doing all that stuff now.
It's like I watch the PBS NewsHour as just part of my diet to see if they're propagating the same bull crap.
Of course they are.
And these days it's like, now we're going to take a break from NewsHour so your local station can put two douchebags on who will have a really poorly produced piece about giving you a tote bag in exchange for some money.
It's not just some money.
Some of these things are unbelievable.
$500,000.
They have one on KQED locally where they're asking you to give your entire estate to them and then they'll lease back to you so you can live in peace without having to pay any rent or anything.
Whoa!
Hold on a second.
How does that work?
We can set this up.
How does this work?
Well, you have to get an estate planner and essentially you donate your entire, everything you own to the station.
Yeah.
To the podcast, yeah.
Which is nothing.
You know, we were donating.
Every week is like, hey, the estate payments came in.
Let's see, we've got a USB thumb drive.
We've got some rope.
And we've got some hairpins.
Wait a minute, so how does that work?
So then we get an annuity from that?
Is that how that works?
No, no.
They give the estate to some estate planning.
I don't know, there's a middleman involved in it.
This is, I think, kind of like those cars for kids.
You know, and these things where you give a car to the charity, and they never really collect the car that goes to some middleman.
Anyway, you give your whole estate to them, and then they, there's like a buy-back, lease-back deal where you, like, I have my house.
So I give my house and all my property to...
The No Agenda podcast, yeah?
Well, in this case, I'll give a house to make it more sense.
We're not going to be able to do that.
I'm going to do something.
I'm going to explain it in a way that makes sense.
I have a house.
I give it to them.
They now buy the house and put me in the house for free.
And I get to live in the house until I die.
Hey, man.
It works if you're in a wheelchair.
Well, you know what?
There's enough foundations out there.
Hundreds of billions of dollars, well, hundreds of millions, and I'm sure billions of dollars are given away to bullcrap programming.
And some of these people, I think, are listening now.
I haven't looked at the numbers, which means nothing.
In fact, I can't even get stats anymore on Mevio.
The page just doesn't even work.
Yeah.
I have a feeling that we are expanding, that there are people checking in.
We have some new listeners every once in a while.
I don't think it's growing as fast as I'd like.
Is it because we're not a non-profit?
Which, by the way, we couldn't be a non-profit.
No, it would make zero difference.
It's just a bunch of paperwork and it's just a tax.
We pay taxes on this money.
We sure do.
And that's that.
And you'd have to do it anyway because it's going to come out of the non-profit.
Whatever you keep in there.
It's a lot of extra work.
If we're going to do that, then we'd do something a little more elaborate.
Like a Ponzi scheme.
Yeah, we'd do something that was crooked.
If we were smart, we would.
Like Clinton.
Yeah.
So, no, we're just doing it straight up.
Like Bill.
Yeah, we follow his lead.
I mean, there's a guy who knows what he's doing.
We're the two stooges.
We are idiots.
Binging and moaning about Clinton.
Yeah, we're dumb.
We're dumb.
We are so dumb.
Anyway, okay, well, but I'm just saying that, you know, I plan on doing this until I keel over.
It could be any minute the way you're going.
No.
What are you talking about?
I'm very healthy.
I'm eating duck.
You're hanging out at bars, smoking.
The smoking thing.
There's that.
Well, the Mickey is stopping in August.
We're quitting.
Okay, you did that before.
But one of these days it'll work.
Well, thanks for the encouragement.
So I'm looking at that blue duck.
I'm looking at pictures.
That thing's got blue foot.
It's got blue feet.
Yeah.
You know, there was some guy and he said, Hey, what shall I call this bird?
I shall call it blue foot.
You take and you strip the bird of all its feathers and you cook it and you leave the feet on it as part of the decoration and they're blue.
They're like blue.
Cool.
Eric the Shield actually sent me this clip which I thought was worth playing.
This is up in your neck of the woods at least your annex up there in Washington.
As the laws are now expanding.
And there was something I caught in this report that is the reason why I'm playing it.
Because, you know, we know that we live in a Gitmo nation.
We already have...
Yeah, when the government takes over.
Yeah.
Preppers, you stupid...
Hey, lady, read the newspaper.
Turn on a podcast.
So, apparently, you already have to have a breathalyzer if you've been convicted of a DUI. Yeah, this is a great story.
This is idiotic.
And of course, they always bring in one guy who says, yeah, I think it's great.
And then they always bring in a victim, which is very sad.
And so I don't want to make light of the fact that this family's 15-year-old girl was killed by a DUI, by a drunk driver, essentially.
And they showed actually where she was walking.
And I have to say, it was a dangerous place to be walking.
But yeah, it doesn't matter.
That sucks.
But listen to what they're doing in addition to the breathalyzer.
While legislators in Olympia haggled over how to close a budget shortfall, they agreed on at least one thing, unanimously passing a bill cracking down on people driving under the influence.
You can't always stop people from becoming impaired.
This woman, by the way, is a legislator.
She looks like every sexual repressed person you've ever seen in the world in one body.
It's just like, ugh.
There's a way to stop them from getting behind the wheel and driving.
The legislation expanded DUI laws to include huffing, the act of inhaling chemicals to get high.
It would also make it tougher to fool an ignition breathalyzer.
The new law could force offenders to pay for cameras that prove they're the ones taking the test instead of a sober friend.
So, I'll stop it here.
That's enough.
Cameras.
So now not only will you have to use a breathalyzer to start your card, but just to make sure it's you, they'll have a camera spying on you.
This is pre-crime, by the way.
It's pre-crime.
Now, the thing that caught me that I heard in this report was the term huffing.
Yeah.
Had you ever heard this term, huffing?
Yeah.
And what is huffing?
It's breathing like...
It's done in different ways.
You can spray a bunch of some weird paint into a paper bag, and then you breathe in the gas from the paper bag, or you can just find some kind of container.
It's just breathing.
It refers to breathing in fumes.
So interestingly enough, if you consult the Book of Knowledge...
There's also the Huffington Post, which apparently...
I never read it, but I guess it's all about this.
If you consult the Book of Knowledge on huffing, It turns out that, yeah, this is a big problem, but it's a problem among 12-year-olds.
Yeah, it's kids.
The older kids, they get E. A recent study has found that dangerous inhalants are the most popular drug among 12-year-olds right now.
More kids in this early age bracket than ever before are sniffing everything from glue to nail polish remover, and yes, even gasoline to get high.
And the results have been absolutely devastating for America's families.
So, I'm like...
Blow out your liver, kids.
Dumb.
I'm wondering why...
I guess they blow out their liver and then go driving.
But why did they slip in that huffing into the people who...
Because she's an idiot like these other congresswomen.
Well, no.
She just had somebody here in the term and she threw it in.
She didn't do it.
No, no, no.
She didn't do it.
It was in the news package.
Oh, well, they were idiots.
This is...
No, I think there's something going on.
I don't think so.
But it's maybe...
Here's what's going on.
They're trying to kill their reporters.
This is a good start.
CNN has sent, at least I think I've seen this twice now, but this is this one I had to record.
Yeah, I saw it.
They sent some bonehead.
They put her in a hazmat suit and sent her to Fukushima.
Toe protective gear, full facial respirators, and hazmat suits.
And then we drove up to the world's worst nuclear accident in 25 years.
This is our first look on the ground at the reactors.
This is the heart of the nuclear problem in Japan.
What you're seeing over my shoulder are the reactors.
There are four of them.
The two that you see over my right shoulder, those are two of the reactors that exploded in the early days of this disaster.
When you take a look at the reactors Hello, John.
I'm now in my hazmat suit, and I am walking into the reactor.
This is where the actual meltdown occurred, and I am, of course, a wage slave from CNN, and I won't do anything to get on television and possibly get laid.
So, this is...
John, how come you're not wearing your hazmat suit?
I'm dead.
That was a good sound effect.
I gotta...
I'm going to use this more often.
That's not bad.
Are you talking into a cup, or what are you doing?
I can't tell you.
It's a hazmat suit.
Okay, go ahead.
Go ahead.
Over and out.
John, I think we should go over here and check out the core.
Curry, can you pick up one of the rods and see if it feels hot?
See if it feels hot.
Let me just check for a second.
Yeah, yeah.
I got a hot rod in my pants.
And that ends that bit.
So anyway, they send this woman...
I don't know.
Does she understand radioactivity at this level?
You know, it's not about the dust getting on you so much.
It's about the radiation.
It's the radiation.
As you walk past the thing, it's unbelievable.
I think they've sent two people.
I think CNN has sent two dummies.
And neither one of them are brand names.
They're just some person you've never heard of.
You don't see pooper wearing his hat.
Yeah.
I'm just trying to keep him honest.
I'm Anderson Pooper for CNN. And now Sanjay Gupta.
You don't see Pooper wearing the suit.
No.
There is, you know, so this whole report which I saw, they were promoing it quite a lot.
I gotta say, you know, I know nothing about nothing and really anything.
I'm a totally uneducated douchebag.
But I think this is just more fear-mongering about nuclear...
Oh, yeah.
No, I think there's that element.
I'm not going to disagree with your basic thesis that, you know, we're doing anything we can to...
Discredit nuclear...
Devilize, you know.
And there was a report that now...
And this is actually alternative news, which, you know, could...
The EnviroReporter.com, which I, you know, question...
You know, there is now 6.7 times the radiation measured in Los Angeles than normal.
And they're saying this, of course, is Fukushima radiation that has drifted across.
You know, I've got to question this.
I'm wondering.
Yeah, I'm really not on board.
It's a ways away.
Hey, let's talk about vaccines for a second, or just some big pharma news, because I hate them as much as I hate our douchebag idiot politicians.
And I don't use the word hate lightly.
In the never-ending quest to continue...
You're not a hater.
I'm a lover, not a fighter.
I don't know about that.
In our never-ending quest, the pharmaceutical's never-ending quest to recategorize their out-of-patent chemicals...
Of course, we've seen Lipitor, which is a cholesterol drug, which has gone out of patent.
We've seen Lipitor working miracles on Alzheimer's, trying to get that reclassified.
Then we have propranolol.
Propranolol is a beta blocker, so that is a blood pressure drug.
Guess what they found now?
You're going to love this.
So this is, you know, it's out of patent, so anyone can make it.
Researchers have found that people who took proponanolol scored significantly lower on a standard test used to detect subconscious racial attitudes.
What?
And from the Telegraph in the UK, blood pressure drug reduces built-in racism.
It's an anti-racist drug.
What?
Blood pressure?
Medicine, a drug, reduces built-in racism.
No, but high blood pressure itself creates racism?
No, this drug, this drug that they're trying to reclassify into the anti-hate-blacky or hate-whitey drug, apparently, like when you take this to lower your blood pressure, it has a wonderful side effect of you becoming un-racist.
This is a gem.
This took a lot of research.
What the hell can we do?
I don't know.
What are we going to do?
We're screwed.
I got an idea.
What is the test, by the way?
They won't see this one coming.
I'd like to take the racial test.
The beta blocker drug can reduce subconscious racism.
Oxford University.
Oxford University did this test, John.
It's called the Implicit Association Test.
And if you click on that link, I get no study session stack trace java.lang.exception no study test.
That's too bad.
Their servlet broke.
Wow.
Let's Google this.
Let's take this test.
What's the name of it?
The Implicit Association Test.
Designed to test subtle and spontaneous biased behavior.
Wow.
I never heard of this.
I used to be a test administrator.
Amongst your many other talents.
I know it's weird, huh?
It was a job you did on weekends.
So I gave all these different tests, including, and I know a lot about these tests, like the Minnesota Multi-Phase Inventory, which I think is the most interesting of all the tests, which is actually illegal to give in the United States if you're an employer, but everybody gives it.
Nobody sees it.
Oh, really?
They do it even though it's illegal?
Oh, yeah.
Big time.
Go to the demonstration test from Harvard.
Harvard.
Implicit association test.
Okay.
Age.
Demonstration.
Select a test.
Hold on.
Select a test.
Do they have a racial one?
Sexuality.
Race.
Race.
I got religion, native, Asian.
What should I do?
Race.
Here.
Where?
Oh, at the bottom.
No, it's halfway through.
Mine's at the bottom.
It says race IAT. The IAT requires the ability to distinguish...
Mine's halfway full.
Okay, halfway through.
Alright, race AIT. Click here to begin.
Let's do this.
I'm liking this.
It's the same test.
Oh my goodness, I got a full page.
You have opted to complete the African American, European American IAT. Well, I wonder, you know, I bet you they're randomizing where they put it on the thing just because people randomly pick one.
Okay, which statement best describes you?
I strongly prefer European Americans to African Americans.
What is this, Taz?
I slightly prefer European...
I have like a whole thing I gotta fill out first.
Oh, really?
I don't have...
I'm straight in, baby.
Oh, you got a better link than I did.
So I don't prefer anybody.
There's no...
I don't prefer anybody to anybody.
You can only choose preferences.
This is rigged.
It's rigged.
Which statement best describes you?
I strongly prefer European Americans to African Americans.
I moderately prefer European Americans to African Americans.
I slightly prefer...
Oh, here it is.
I like European Americans and African Americans equally.
There you go.
Please rate how warm or cold you feel towards the following groups.
Zero is coldest feeling, five neutral, ten the warmest.
African Americans...
What do you mean, warm?
Neutral.
Aha!
I went back and I banged on the refresh and I got, when the race thing moved to the middle, I clicked on it and now I'm in the same.
But my questions are like, I never regret my decisions.
How about this?
I like to have friends who are unpredictable.
Yeah, well, hold on a second.
Yes.
Strongly agree.
I don't like situations that are uncertain.
Strongly disagree.
I am not a safe driver when I exceed the speed limit.
Moderately disagree.
I'm not particularly good at making other people like me.
Strongly agree.
I think of myself as someone who is depressed or blue.
Moderately disagree.
I've never dropped litter on the street.
Well, strongly disagree, I guess.
I think of myself as someone who tends to be quiet.
Disagree strongly.
I don't like to go into a situation without knowing what I can expect from it.
I'll moderately disagree.
I always obey laws, even if I'm unlikely to get caught.
Strongly disagree.
Oh, and they switched the order, by the way.
Interesting.
I never cover up my mistakes.
I strongly agree.
No, that's just to see if you're reading the test.
Yeah, okay.
The problem is a lot of people when they take these tests and they switch the order, now they click on the wrong answer and it screws up the test and nobody ever says anything.
Right, I hate it when you have to scroll down five times for age.
Ethnicity, Hispanic or Latino, not Hispanic or Latino, really.
Race, what am I? White?
I guess.
How many IATs have you approved to perform?
Zero.
Political identity.
What am I? Strongly conservative?
What's the options?
Moderately conservative.
Slightly neutral.
I think neutral.
I have no agenda.
I think you go neutral.
Neutral.
Occupation.
Right.
Unemployed.
Religious affiliation.
New Age, Hindu, unaffiliated atheist, unaffiliated agnostic, I think agnostic is better, education, some college, major field of study that held your highest degree, douchebaggery, communications, country of primary citizenship, USA, we're almost done, country of residence, USA. Current postal code, hmm, I don't like doing that, but I will.
And where I've lived the longest, postal code, Jersey.
So that's, what was New Jersey again?
What's the New Jersey postal code?
You know, I'm taking this test with you, and I've got a completely different test with a bunch of things I've got to do on the screen.
I've got to move the mouse around.
Oh, really?
I've just got questions.
Let's see.
Oh, here we go.
What?!
Next test should be presented with words.
This is stupid.
You'll be here forever.
Take it later and we'll discuss the answers we got on the next show.
There's other things to do.
We certainly have other things to do.
Well, anyway, what we should do is we should try this test and then try it again.
After popping a few pills of this beta blocker and see if we...
I think having a couple of glasses of cognac.
It's crazy.
Something very interesting.
The co-author of the autism vaccine MMR paper, remember that?
Dr. Andrew Wakefield, remember that guy who everyone ridiculed and there's no science?
Right, they ran him out of town on a rail.
So his co-author of that paper, Professor John Walker Smith, won an appeal against Gitmo Nation East General Medical Council Regulatory Board that had ruled against both him and Wakefield for their roles in the 1998 MMR paper.
And they've completely overturned the entire ruling, restoring him back to full credibility.
And like that was reported in the news.
No.
No.
Of course not.
Yeah, that should be in the New York Times.
This is important stuff.
It should be in the New York Times.
Of course not.
I don't see it.
Of course not.
Whoa!
I heard a rotary phone fall.
You have a rotary phone there, don't you?
No, that was the bell that the slide whistle slid off the printer, which had the newspaper on top of it that I was trying to pull out from under.
And the slide whistle slides down the printer and hits the rotary bell.
I have never seen your office, but I'm worried that one day you will...
Pull out the wrong thing.
You'll be buried.
There's a lot of stuff in this office.
Every once in a while, my daughter cleans it up for me.
So let's play a clip or two before we...
Good idea.
Good idea.
I got one for you here.
So I'm watching this...
There's a lot of stuff in that.
We'll talk about SOPA and PIP in a minute, but there was a bunch of testimony for different kinds of anti-piracy, so they brought it forward.
This guy, Larry Conrad, the CIO of the University of North Carolina, who's made a long discussion about how they're trying to change students' habits and all the rest of it, but just play the education opportunity thing.
He doesn't really read anything from his slideshow, so I have to go back and read something for you after he's finished.
...of the hall pass program.
The basic program is to comply with the Higher Education Opportunity Act of 2008.
And you heard the three components that were involved with that.
The hall pass program is focused on number one and number two.
The number three issue, I think as Joe pointed out, there's some promising developments.
Those things go beyond things that CILs can necessarily address.
Where's your whole past slave?
Okay.
So let me just read the first and second and also the third thing.
You know what I thought?
He doesn't mention him.
He just puts it up on the screen, so I had to write it down.
The Higher Education Opportunity Act.
Oh.
Of 2008.
I think somebody, they're passing this law about trying to bust Barack Obama for creating these wars or doing these wars.
They should bust Congress for naming these bills.
Let me just read the two items.
This is the Higher Education Opportunity Act.
One, disclose the illegality of file sharing copyrighted material annually.
Ha ha ha.
This is an opportunity.
This is an opportunity.
Number two, have a plan to effectively combat illegal content sharing.
Another opportunity.
And three, offer alternatives.
What has this got to do with higher education opportunity?
I thought it was a hall pass if you have to go number one or number two.
I misunderstood what he was saying.
I got a hall pass for number one.
It's a complicated issue in itself.
Yeah.
So, we do have a clip that we could play at the end of the show, which is Chris Dodd explaining something very important.
How long is it?
It's five minutes.
Well, is it something we want to respond to?
I'm happy to listen to it.
I already have what we can respond to.
Let's talk about...
The Utah Attorney General who stood in front of all these Attorney Generals and gave this little talk, bitching and moaning about how Soap and Pippa got shot down after he'd written an editorial saying it was so great.
And he kind of discusses how it happened.
And I think this is one of the most important clips.
It's a little long that we've ever played because for the first time ever...
Apparently, a slam dunk, which is what Chris Dodd talks about, which makes the Chris Dodd clip interesting, the SOPA and PIPA bills were slam dunks.
Everybody in committee said, let's do it.
Everybody in Congress said, let's do it.
But...
They didn't do it because the internet actually got a bunch of public relations going and it shot it down.
It's the first time that I know that it's happened to such an extreme.
Listen to the Utah Attorney General bitching about being attacked over Sopa Pippa by his own kids.
Yes, General Shurtleff.
Thank you.
First of all, I'm going to let you use an acronym that I coined.
P2P is good.
Peer-to-peer sharing is good.
Sharing information.
What we're concerned about is what I call P2P3P. Peer-to-peer piracy, privacy, and pornography.
And since before Grokster's decision, which many of us who were here in 2005 obviously joined in on an amicus brief and support, but we've been looking in Utah on ways to try and better protect those whose intellectual property is being stolen.
And it's still a big problem, obviously, hence SOPA PIPA. But my view of what happened there and seeing members of my delegation who completely turned around was this extremely well-orchestrated, internet-based, false misinformation.
About what Sopa Pippa did.
We knew it wasn't perfect, but the lies that were told online is what killed it.
And then a very well-orchestrated internet campaign to label anybody in support of Sopa Pippa, whether they're legislators or attorneys general who wrote op-eds in support of Sopa Pippa, as people who were anti-free speech, who wanted to censor the internet, who wanted to cripple an innovative economy on the internet.
Even my own kids, teenagers hearing this, came down on me for being against free speech and against the Internet.
I'm looking right now by a major corporation who have representatives in this room with their end piracy, not liberty mantra, and telling people to contact Congress and stop censorship of the Internet.
I guarantee you that as AGs go forward, and I'm inclined to do so, I'll tell you right now, If you go forward with efforts to hold ISPs responsible in some ways for what's going on, that we will face the same attacks.
So anyway, so he's whining.
Yeah.
Hey, my kids called me a douchebag!
Yeah, and his kids.
He never said that he changed their minds, by the way.
Hey, you know what?
Drone those kids.
It's legal.
So he's just...
He apparently was very vested, this guy in Utah, because he's so important to...
Hollywood's so important to him.
But what got me, and he's talking about lies, lies, lies, which is bull crap, because this has been very deeply studied by the technologists as a couple of pieces of crap.
But the one, this little short clip he says right here, the second one, Utah AG SOPA, he makes this claim, and every time I hear this claim, I just cringe.
I appreciate that.
And as I've been thinking through when it became this, you know, Silicon Valley versus Hollywood and big companies and big, you know, are the literally millions of artists, young, struggling, the ones who are truly being injured on this and their voice needed to be heard.
If I could just give one plug, and he didn't put me up, this is all embarrassing, but, you know, Van Stevenson has been working with us for, well, I'm 12 years now, and he's a great...
He's not getting a pay raise.
I'm sorry, what...
If we can keep working with him, that would be great.
He does a great, great job.
Yeah, a bunch of douchebags.
The struggling artists.
Well, the struggling artists are screwed.
They have to sign their copyrights away.
Anyone who's a writer or an artist who does any of this stuff already knows this is a lie.
This is an out-and-out blatant lie by the Utah Attorney General.
The struggling artists are already screwed by the system.
It's these guys who buy up the copyrights and require it.
You want to work here?
Sign your copyrights away, kid.
This guy should be embarrassed.
Let me just weigh in on this.
There's so much to say.
There must be an understanding that the, I know the music business very, very well.
And this was always a cabal, and it was based upon distribution.
And when the distribution falls apart, everything falls apart.
That is the way a market works.
And there are a couple of things, directions that we have to look to And you are absolutely right.
There is no way, no way, unless you are an Illuminati slave, because that's the only people making money.
I'm looking at you, P. Diddy, Rihanna, Miley Cyrus, Britney Spears, these MKUltra kids, and P. Diddy is also just a sad, sad, sad little monarch child.
Who are only in existence and have money to program children that what they're doing is good and they've got all their evil, all-seeing-eye signals and their big monarch butterflies and that's complete programming.
Otherwise, there is no money to be made like it used to be.
Now, there's good news and we actually talked about this before the show started.
Because of the MP3 revolution, which is probably the worst thing ever to happen to recorded music.
Your brain spends so much time decoding what you're hearing.
It's a 10 to 1 compression ratio.
It's the equivalent of putting a cheesecloth over your ears.
You are not hearing it.
This is why when kids go to live gigs and they hear a real beautiful uncompressed recording, they're blown away.
You can still make a living by performing live.
But that's it.
It's over.
The millions forget about it.
This has only been around for 50, 60 years because of a distribution system.
So either accept your vow of poverty and enjoy life.
But please, please don't think that you can make money anymore in the music business.
Two ways to go.
You become an Illuminati slave, or you perform live and enrich people's lives, and you live on alms.
Which, by the way, I think a lot of guys who I see performing in Austin are probably doing about the same that you and I are doing, John, on the show.
And it's, you know, passersby, hand out money, you know, you do it enough, and then you build up a little reputation.
You can make a living, but it's not...
Yeah, and I play music.
I would not even drop a quarter in your hat for that.
You might if I kept playing.
Yeah.
So forget about it.
And if your kids are watching that, I hate the sound.
I know I'm sounding like my parents, but it's crap.
The P. Diddy crap.
It's crap.
It's about time you came up with that one.
Where are the love songs?
It's crap.
Somebody brought that up.
I did.
Where are the love songs?
It's crap.
A lot of people do.
All you hear is the Rain Man cometh.
That's another Illuminati sign.
Umbrella Illuminati sign.
They all got their three fingers in the air.
They're looking through their index finger and thumb.
It's all satanic bullcrap.
And they're programming your kids.
And music videos?
I'm happy MTV doesn't play music videos anymore because they're putting stuff in it that turns your kids into zombies.
And I know what I'm talking about here.
I think I have some credentials in this area.
You have cred.
I got cred.
Yeah, standing.
I also have crud.
That's a different story.
And the good news is there will be a No Agenda Producer update on the stream right after this program ends with a little pre-show before that so you can make sure you listen to all of that stuff.
We'll be winding up with our final show clip of Chris Douchebag Dodd.
I can't wait to hear that.
He actually makes logical sense.
And you can tell that they should take more long-term congresspeople that have been in there forever and know the ropes.
And they're trying to get legislation passed and make them the head of these operations.
He's a lot better than Jack Valenti, even though he's still just another white-haired douchebag.
Yeah.
What else was I going to say?
Oh, yes.
Artists.
The NoAgendaArtGenerator.com is still open.
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The problem of piracy continues to persist.
General Hood and I have been working on this for how long now?
Jim, four years at least.
And by the way, he's been a tremendous leader on this whole topic, including especially the issue of piracy on campus.
So I'm really glad you could be here for this, Jim.
But MPAA, Senator Dodd, any thoughts on where we go next with SOPA? Well, listen, I mean, is this on?
There it is.
It was a threshold event.
I mean, I think in watching events, as many of you have, not all of you, and how a bill becomes law.
I mean, normally, if you look at this process, you've had a unanimous vote out of the Senate Judiciary Committee, Democrats and Republicans agreeing with the bill that Senator Leahy and Senator Hatch originally worked on.
The House had a similar situation, not quite as unanimous, but I think any of us would be hard-pressed to name another issue.
In the last four or five years, we had that degree of unanimity around a subject matter.
And that is to try and come up with answers to deal with foreign sites.
Because all of you know, we've had domestic legislation to deal with domestic sites.
In fact, they've shut down some 300 or so in the last year or two.
But obviously, the criminals have learned very quickly that if they can get outside the shores of the United States, then they'd be on the reach of the law.
And are able to avoid the kind of efforts that were made domestically.
And again, I have great respect for Lamar Smith and for Howard Berman, who led the effort in the House.
But I think, candidly, the legislation had some issues that needed to be addressed and thought through.
But normally you do that.
You'll have a bill introduced, and then through an amendment process you get back to a point where people decide this is a workable solution to move forward.
This took on a whole new life, obviously.
Within a space of 8 or 10 days, you had between 8 and 10 million emails that came flooding in.
And a lot of it was about freedom of speech.
The terms of the debate changed.
You globalized an issue that you had been hard-pressed to find 20 people interested in the subject matter of copyright prior to that.
And then, candidly, the opportunity to respond was almost eliminated entirely.
But the issue doesn't go away, as you've heard from the panelists and others today, looking for solutions to this.
I don't believe anything will happen in the remainder of this year.
Again, election year politics are always difficult at any level.
And the idea of having another issue come up like this is probably unwise, although I leave it up to the members of Congress to decide that issue.
But my guess would be that they would not try to move forward right now.
But there are efforts underway, and we need to try and find a solution to the issue.
My hope is that we can get, and I mentioned this briefly in my remarks, That this does require a level of cooperation, obviously, between the technology community and the content community.
Both need each other.
The idea that technology can exist without content, or content will exist without technology, is sort of ludicrous on its face, it seems to me.
And particularly when you consider the value to us in this country.
We didn't talk about these numbers today in the context of this, and I realize they're not highly persuasive.
But there's a lot of misinformation about the film and television industry.
This industry employs 2.2 million people every day.
Now, some are selling popcorn and others are making a lot of money and other rand.
But an average salary is $55,000 a year.
Good pensions, good health care benefits result in the industry.
We bring back more revenues to the United States than aerospace, agriculture, or automobiles.
It's a product that the world enjoys, even those who aren't necessarily our friends around the world.
Given the choice between watching a product made by the film and television industry, anywhere else the world will choose the American product.
And so there's a lot more at stake here.
This is an industry in which you can have a high school diploma and a year or two of technical training get a very good job in this industry.
I think anyone must be hard pressed to name another industry where that kind of opportunity exists without having completed a college education or even beyond to get a good job.
Now again, those are persuasive statistics because again, as I think Rick pointed out, people see this as a victimless kind of crop.
How much harm can I really cause if I'm stealing a film or television product from what we perceive as overpaid people in this business?
And yet I think if more people are aware, how many average people, the people whose names you're never going to see on a marquee, but watch the credits at the end, the people in this room standing behind these cameras or operating the sound systems, are 98% of the employees in this business.
The two percent that we read about and hear about represent a fraction of the people affected by this industry.
And so it's an important issue.
And my hope is that over this gap, if you will, between now and next January, February or so, that people can come together around some solutions for national legislation.
Memorialize, if need be, a codify.
Ideas that will allow us to move forward in this 21st century where content and intellectual property are protected.
It is the lifeblood of any country and any ability.
In fact, the Internet itself would have been in deep trouble if you'd had this attitude about copyright 20 years ago, where the very ideas that gave birth to this remarkable industry would be at risk, in my view.
So we really need some leadership on this issue.
And my hope is in these coming weeks and months we'll get it.
And I think the idea of SOPA, whatever you're going to call this, I'm pleased by God they don't call it SOPA. Think of some new name for this, by the way, given this has become sort of a mantra almost internationally.
My security scan shows it has a grade one priority, Captain.
Non-belligerency confirmed.
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