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It's a cool drone.
Let's extend it to Iran.
Let it land over there.
Act all like it's like a lost orb, a lost puppy.
And put a bunch of gear and crazy things in there that, you know, says weird stuff on, like, you know, thermal imager.
And it's got, like, some crazy circuit in there.
It's really an old, you know, Z80 computer or something.
Adam Curry, John C. Devorah.
It's Sunday, December 11th, 2011.
Time for your Gitmo Nation Media Assassination episode 364.
This is no agenda.
Observing central casting and action here in Camp Mofo in Austin, Texas, the capital of the Lone Star State.
In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
And from northern Silicon Valley, hey, a drone just landed.
I'm John C. Dvorak.
It's Craig Vaughn and Buzzkill.
In the morning.
With a stinger.
Hey, now.
Where'd that stinger come from?
Oh, you always ask me that.
I don't think I've ever asked it.
You always ask me that when you hear the stinger.
It's because it's all separate elements.
And then if you're short on your little intro, then I just hit this one.
It's Crackpot and Buzzkill in the morning.
But the music is still running, so then sometimes you get the stinger.
See, people think this is all pre-produced, like we spend an hour before the show putting it together.
Yeah, no, I understand.
Well, people must think that, but can you just play the stinger standalone?
Well, it's not a stinger.
It's this whole thing here.
Oh, I see it.
See?
I'll explain it to you, right?
I know how to explain it.
So this just runs and runs and runs.
Runs and runs and you go, I'm jumping the bug.
I'm jumping the bug.
And then, you know, a crack button buzzkill, blah, blah, blah.
Here comes the stinger.
Yeah, that.
See how it works?
Yeah, that's the one.
You don't hear that anywhere else in the world, by the way, that stinger.
That music is never used anywhere.
I like that.
I've never heard anything quite like it.
Astonishing.
It's funny.
It must have been written for us by Beethoven.
That's right.
Who was a knight, by the way.
Beethoven wrote our stinger.
And the bastard sold it to Apple and put it in the GarageBand sound loops.
So anyway.
I hate that guy.
In the morning to you, John.
In the morning to you, Adam Curry.
And in the morning to all ships at sea and boots on the ground and feats in the air.
And, of course, our human resources who, once again, have faithfully shown up and represent a quorum in the chat room.
NoagendaStream.com.
NoagendaChat.net.
That's right.
You're all charged up, ready to go the way your government loves you.
And I just want to start off today, John, because I've got some...
I'm going to go out on a limb this show.
I think I have to.
Out on a limb?
Yeah, I think I have to.
The first half of the show?
It's the whole show, man.
I mean, could you just agree with me?
No.
Now, you will agree with me.
The people who run our world are insane.
In what way?
They're insane, especially in America.
They could well be insane.
Yeah, our politicians are insane megalomaniacs.
They're just insane.
So what's your point?
I just want to make sure that we agree that they're insane.
They will do anything.
It depends on your definition of insanity, but I would agree with your overall view of things.
Okay.
Just do anything to convince the stupid slaves to go along with their program.
By the way, on today's show, I'm happy to announce that you will be witness to an actual consulting presentation from the Curry-Dvorak Consultancy Group.
As we will be presenting the strategy for the Obama administration for the next year.
You know about the meeting, don't you, John?
I didn't get the memo.
Well, you're in the meeting.
You're in the meeting.
We will be presenting to the president.
As long as I'm in the meeting, I don't care.
You're in the meeting.
Of course you're in the meeting.
You've got a very important job in the meeting.
Yeah, I'm the other half of the consultancy group.
That's part of it.
Yeah, well, you bring credibility.
You know, Professor Jean-Claude Devorak.
Do you have your little glasses, like the little professor glasses for the meeting?
Pince-nez's.
Yeah, that one.
Yeah, Pince-nez's.
We need it for the meeting.
You know, we've talked about that here at the house, about getting pince-nez's from the family.
Really?
Because it'd be so cool to have, you know, the ones that pinch your nose is what it means.
Yes, French.
The French.
Pince-nez.
And you pull the glasses, you have the, it's just like a pair of glasses with no legs on them.
It's just you pull them apart a little bit and you gently drop them on your nose and then you read through them usually in a haughty manner.
I think a monocle is better for you, actually.
Well, the monocle, the problem with the monocle is you have to hold it.
No, you can just hold it with your eyebrow, right?
You just kind of squeeze it down.
Oh, yeah, there are some that you can stick in there and then, yeah, you can grip it with your facial muscles.
Yeah, that would be, I think the monocle is good for you.
Monocles are, yeah, maybe.
I think those are pretentious.
You think?
And the pinch Nez is not?
I guess it is too.
Hey, right off the bat, and we almost got through the entire show last week without talking about Alec Baldwin.
I want to give props to our PR maven, Lois Whitman.
Did you see her YouTube video?
Yes, it's great.
Lois Whitman, who is a professional PR expert.
And by the way, I've never met Lois.
She really works very hard to try and get press for the show and is always complaining that we don't do anything.
We have no talking points.
Yeah, you guys are boring.
We don't have any theme.
She's always bitterly complaining about that we have no hooks.
You've got to pick a fight with somebody.
I said, what do you mean?
We've got no hooks.
She's awesome.
I'm calling out people for Lucifer, for evil.
No, it's not good enough for her.
No, no, no.
You've got to have a hook.
But she looks and she sounds like...
I mean, if you were to say, show me the quintessential New York PR mega mama maven, Lois Whitman is it, right?
Well, she definitely presents herself that way.
She's fantastic.
I've never met her, but I'm in love with her.
She's very likable.
I can easily understand why.
So she puts out a YouTube video which had exactly one view when I saw it.
Two now.
The PR maven.
One view.
She doesn't do very good PR for herself.
No, nor for us, but it doesn't matter.
We love her.
We're impossible clients.
There comes a letter of...
She's like, I do everything.
You guys suck.
You don't have any hooks.
You guys suck.
You got no hooks.
You're no good.
You don't give me any heads up.
You don't send me bullet points.
Clips.
Alright, here she is about the Alec Baldwin PR stunt, which is, I just love her for this.
I can't believe that there are still people out there that do not understand that this whole Alec Baldwin...
Words with Friends, American Airlines and now 30 Rock was not a staged PR strategy.
A brilliant staged PR strategy.
This did not happen by chance.
Here are the clues.
American Airlines would never upset Alec Baldwin to the point where he walked off.
It just wouldn't happen.
The captain would run out of the cabin to go get him.
A flight attendant would not want to risk her career by throwing him off.
Do you know how many times I'm on American Airlines and the flight takes off and people still have their Nooks, Kindles, iPads on?
Let's get real.
They did not pick Alan Baldwin to make their point.
This was a staged situation.
Of course, the only link that Lois failed to make is that this is about Words with Friends, which is owned by Zynga, which is going public next week.
So, of course, she's right.
And I'm a little PO that we didn't, like, call it immediately.
I think it was so obvious that we were like, you know, whatever.
Yeah, we've been getting a little lax.
Yes, we have, laxadaisal.
In fact, I remember one, we've been getting a little laxative.
I remember I said something to somebody in some email exchange and pointed out this was a...
Oh, about human rights.
Yeah, maybe it was that, maybe it was something else, but this is happening a lot.
And they say, oh, it's so obvious.
You know, what are you telling me?
Tell me something I don't know.
In other words, including ourselves, are taking a lot of these things for granted in ways that we wouldn't have done maybe three years ago.
So I took this as a call to action when I saw this from Lois.
I'm like, you know, we really have to be more on the ball because I believe...
As true media assassins, this is what people like about us, and this is why, yeah, you can call me a conspiracy theorist, whatever, but I think people like the deconstruction of the media.
And so on Thursday, we had Attorney General Holder testifying before the committee, and I have several clips, and it was dynamite.
John, we could not have written this better.
It was dynamite stuff.
Did you see any of it?
No, you knew I was going to clip it, right?
Yep.
Yeah, okay.
So we have to get into that because they're really going for this guy.
At the same time, so it's really Republicans versus Democrats.
And in fact, I will play this little clip from Ted Deutsch, who I think we're just mispronouncing his name.
I think his name is Ted Douche.
He's a Democrat.
And so, you know, everyone's about this fast and furious.
There's memos, personal emails, holders refusing to give.
It's just, ISA just accuses him of all kinds of amazing stuff.
And then, of course, it's time for, and, you know, I think they're all a-holes, left and right.
But it's very clear what this Fast and Furious program was about.
It was to get American guns out of hands of Americans.
And, you know, nothing is more obvious in these types of settings where, yeah, there are some serious questions, but most of the time the senators or the congressmen will start off with a statement, which basically is just a PR thing, right?
Right.
Generally, there is a trafficking statute.
If Congress would pass that, consider and pass that, I think that could help us as well.
Support for that regulation that deals with long guns and the sale of them over the course of five years.
What are long guns?
What's a long gun?
I have no idea.
Is that a rifle?
Is that a shotgun?
It could be a rifle or it could be a gun that travels around.
It could be a reference to something inside your car.
Yeah, yeah, good point.
I'm going to make a lot of different things.
All of these things, I think, would be helpful.
And a more protracted dialogue about what the nature of the problem is, which is a national security threat to the United States.
Oh, long guns, national security.
Long Johns are a national security threat to the United States.
You know, it's not only the executive.
According to the Shill, by the way, it's a high-powered rifle.
That is a long gun.
Branch that has ideas that I think could be.
Why didn't he call it that?
Thank God.
I don't know.
I'm sure there are great ideas in Congress as well, and to the extent that we can identify them, work on them, and do so in a way that's respectful of and consistent with the Second Amendment, I think that would be very useful.
I agree.
I also would suggest, General, that it's worth bringing the...
General, you hear that?
How he says general, not attorney general, but general?
Yeah, this is disconcerting.
It's annoying is what it is.
He's not a general, he's an attorney general.
This debate to within our own borders as well.
I think it is worth noting that 100,000 people a year in America are involved, are shot in gun violence.
How many people die in the bathroom in America, John?
What's the number?
I don't know.
You have it.
You're the professor.
You're the professor.
Well, we all know it's a lot.
How many people die in car accidents?
Oh, that's tens of thousands.
32,000 died from gun violence last year.
20,000 American children and teens are shot every year involved in gun violence.
They probably deserved it.
Every day in America, 270 people in America, 47 of them children and teens, are shot.
And every day, 87 people die from gun violence in this country.
This is a very important hearing, and this is an important discussion about This operation, the investigation that you've started, I think unfortunately the debate that we're not having often enough here is one about gun violence in this country, is one that acknowledges the fact that law enforcement officers in our country now need to carry assault weapons themselves in order to match the firepower of the criminals who carry assault weapons.
So, of course, the debate is not at all about a big cover-up going on.
It's about assault weapons.
We have to take away long guns and assault weapons.
By the way, I should mention, you mentioned Ted Deutsch.
Douche.
He is a massive anti-gun Democrat.
Oh, yeah.
Misidentifying weapons to scare the public.
Exactly.
He's out of Boca Raton.
Oh, yeah.
So, you know, almost out of our playbook, if we had the consulting contract, which we don't, we have to create some distractions to, you know, to focus everyone, particularly anyone who's watching C-SPAN and has a DVR, away from this cover-up which has been taking place.
And we'll be playing some clips later on in the show.
So two things happen.
One, which kind of blew me away when I googled the actual location, we had a very strong earthquake in Guerrero, Mexico.
A 6.7 magnitude earthquake.
Guerrero, Mexico is where all these mayors keep getting killed.
It's like one of the biggest drug gang violence towns in Mexico where, of course, most of the almost 70,000 weapons were smuggled in by the United States authorities.
Now, you can take my theories on earthquake mechanisms and machines for what they are, but I think that is an incredible coincidence.
I think not!
So that's one.
But what really slayed me was this Hollywood shooter.
Did you follow this at all?
Did you follow this at all?
Yeah, I was thinking of getting a clip of the guy up on the balcony.
Okay, so...
So there's a guy on a balcony taking a video of this guy walking down the middle of the street with a gun.
Yeah, I felt that this was some sort of an anti-gun thing, too, and it was really played up by Don Lemon.
So I have the clip of Don Lemon with this guy, the videographer.
His name is Chris Johns.
Now...
First of all, I'm just watching this, and this actually came by on TV, and the thing that I noticed immediately, this happened at the corner, or the intersection of Hollywood and Vine, somewhere between 9 and 10 a.m.
Friday morning.
And I'm looking at this, and I'm like, first I said, that can't be Hollywood and Vine.
I live not far from, my daughter lived two streets up.
I mean, it's a very famous intersection.
That place is packed with traffic between 9 and 10.
It was empty.
It was almost empty, a couple of cars going by, and we've got this crazy guy shooting, and we see it from a fourth-story window.
So the first thing, I'm like, that can't be Hollywood and Vine.
It just didn't feel right to me.
Just because of the lack of congestion.
Traffic!
I mean, come on, it's Los Angeles.
There's no traffic.
I showed it to Miss Mickey, too.
She's like, no, that's bullcrap.
And she actually thought she saw a roadblock somewhere.
Then the news comes out that people thought this was part of a movie.
Because there was a movie being shot like one or two streets over.
A Sean Penn movie, I believe.
And I thought this guy was an actor.
And that would make sense because there were a number of people to the left, as the guy panned around, that were coming toward the shooter.
And they would be the classic pedestrian, well, let's go look at them shooting a movie crowd.
And they're everywhere, those people.
So you know where I'm taking this.
I'm going to assert that this entire thing...
And I have so many data points to prove to you.
So a couple of interesting things happen here.
First of all, there's no blood.
We have the guy, he's lying on the ground, if you've seen the pictures, with a white sheet over him.
Not an official NYPD or LAPD or fire department thing.
It's like it's a white sheet.
It's an actual white sheet, like the one they use in the movies.
The guy has been shot to death, and you see the silhouette of his body, but there's no blood anywhere.
They said, well, it was an off-duty cop who was guarding the movie set, who heard the shots, arrived on the scene, shoots the guy.
But when you see the picture, shot by Associated Press, you see, like, a female cop with a shotgun hanging over the guy.
You see another, there's all cops everywhere.
It's like a total movie set.
And I'm listening to this with Don Lemon and I get really suspicious about this Chris Johns guy.
Listen to this.
I looked at the video and you said, hey, over here, look over here.
Why were you trying to get him to come?
You were asking him to shoot at you.
So my head swiveled.
I'm like, really?
So this guy's hanging out the window and he's calling for the guy to shoot at him.
Yeah, I thought that I made a calculated kind of...
He's struggling here.
He made a calculated...
I think this guy was the director.
This is my immediate thought.
I'm like, oh, this guy was directing this whole scene.
Comparison.
I thought if people down there at point-blank range to the shooter were going to get shot...
You know, they really had, they were kind of helpless to avoid being killed.
You know, me, I'm four stories up.
If I could take any of his attention and divert it towards me, you know, any gunshots that he would, you know, that he would shoot at me, I would have an opportunity to, uh, to get out of the way.
So I thought, you know...
I don't know.
I just made a calculation and I thought it was a good one that any attention I could take away from the people in the street, you know, put it on me, I could probably save my own life and save other people's in the process.
Now wait for it.
It's unbelievable that nobody died in this, Chris.
Not really, if it's a fake scene, Don.
You know, there were people who were injured.
He was shooting point-blank at cars, and he was holding the gun.
Explain to the viewers how he was holding the gun, sort of hiding it until the cars got right upon him.
Why is this detail even asked?
I was baffled by it when he asked it the first time.
Explain how he's holding the gun?
Yep.
And when you see the red car drive by, he shoots at the red car.
The windshield explodes outward.
And they interview this guy, Don Reed, who was a retired sound engineer, and they're interviewing him in the car, and he still has a headset on.
Like an honest-to-God headphones.
I'm like, that's weird.
I mean, you drive around with your headphones on in the car?
We're just giant headphones.
Yeah, he had headphones on.
And he's a sound engineer.
I'm like, okay.
All right, let's go.
And he's holding the gun, kind of methodically and mechanically, kind of grazing around, looking for kind of, it looked like anything that was moving.
You know, you can see the red car goes by, pop, he shoots it.
And I'm screaming out anything I can.
You know, I told him that he was an angel sent from God to kill me.
And I said that was what his...
Why would you say that?
Now I'm like, this guy is really weird, so let me investigate him.
But there's one more little tidbit that Don Lemon brings up.
I would stop at nothing to kind of get his attention and get it towards me.
Luckily, nobody died.
I don't know if I could have done anything more, but I wasn't at any moment afraid of somehow being shot or killed or wounded.
I was worried about the people on the street, and I had a much better opportunity to avoid death from my vantage point.
He actually did engage you in conversation, even asking you for ammunition.
And did he ask you for another gun?
And you can hear the guy say it.
He says, you got any ammo?
Because if you're out of ammo in the scene, of course you want to ask the director if you're out of ammo.
So I go looking for this guy, Chris Johns.
And I find him.
He is a self-proclaimed multi-millionaire film director.
He is on IMDB. This, of course, is never brought up in any of these little ditties that he's on.
He just moved to Los Angeles two months ago from Michigan, and also the purported shooter...
Also, you know, just started his Facebook, just started his Twitter.
He did like three tweets, you know, all from December 6th, just started.
Apparently, this Chris Johns is a producer of the 2012 release movie.
He's way more famous than you.
He's an executive producer in this, and this is IMDB, in the cast, Ben Stiller, Jesse Eisenberg.
Okay, so this is a huge movie.
I'm like, oh, this is a very interesting fellow.
Let me look a little bit further into him.
And then I find his YouTube video channel and listen to this.
Over 70% of Americans who make over $250,000 a year in surveys have said, you know, they don't mind paying an extra 3% or 4% in taxes.
I have some great ideas and I want you to take a look at it at wedontmind.org.
So wedontmind.org is essentially propagating the message of a democratic message, certainly, but without a doubt the Obama administration message.
And this guy, now listen to his practice run, because he also uploaded that video to his YouTube channel.
There are over 4 million households in America that earn over $250,000 a year.
In surveys of people with these incomes, 65-70% of people state they don't mind paying a little extra.
We believe that we can target those 65-70% and the other 30-35% that do mind to work together to promote economic growth.
We are calling on the top 3% of Americans to get involved.
Now listen.
It's going to take a lot.
This is not the one that makes it me exciting.
It is the call to action.
Oh yeah.
So he's a marketing professional.
He's talking about the call to action.
What's the name of the site again?
WeDon'tMind.org.
So I look into this guy.
WeDon'tMind.org, which was also just registered on the 29th of October, 2011, registered to Chris Johns in the Bientel building in Michigan.
And it turns out he has a couple other domains, such as bidetforless.com, which sells a hose you attach, I guess, to spray your private area after pooping or whatever.
I guess that's one of his side businesses.
And he has phildate.com, foxtrotindialimadate.com, the free Filipina dating site.
And then you go look at the purported shooter, this guy who now has three names, Tyler Douglas Brehm, and his mother is a Filipino.
I'm just saying these are small coincidences.
Yeah, I like the way you're putting this together, especially after you start off with the...
Earthquake machine.
No, with Lois' thing, which is showing a PR stunt.
Mm-hmm.
And then there's the lack of...
The listener up for the fact that there's a lot of bogus crap going on, bogative.
Yep.
And now you've developed this.
I'm not seeing any holes in it.
You're probably right.
I'm going to bring it home.
Something fishy.
I'm going to bring it home.
All right.
So apparently there's one guy was parked...
On Vine or Hollywood, I think it's Vine, in his Mercedes, in a high-end Mercedes, and he was shot in, well some say the neck, some say the jaw.
He is being treated, he's surrounded by his family, police are not releasing his name, and he's being guarded.
Why?
Why?
Why are we not allowed to know his name?
Why is he being guarded?
Why is he being guarded?
Thank you.
Then...
Keep the media from talking to him.
KTLA goes and interviews a whole bunch of what I think are actors at the scene.
Listen very closely to what the Asian guy says.
It'll be a little tough to...
A Filipino?
It could be a Filipino, it could be Korean, I can't tell, but I immediately thought, oh, there's the Filipino connection again.
Listen, so first there's this crazy kooky guy with a beard and like crazy, you know, he's like, he looks kind of like the guy from Scooby-Doo.
He looks like that guy.
Here we go.
Bam!
Bam!
He was picking people out with his...
By the way, you can hear the news guys saying, can you say that again?
Can you say that again?
Say that again, man, because I wasn't rolling.
Say that again.
Bam!
Bam!
He was picking people out with his pistol walking up the street.
Random people at will and he was just bam!
Bam!
At Sunset and Vine, paramedics worked desperately to save a man shot in the neck by a gunman who lays dead in the street nearby.
Witnesses say LAPD officers shot the man who was firing the handgun after he refused to surrender.
So I dropped below the Mercedes so he couldn't shoot me, and the cops ran up from the back and told him to drop whatever he had.
Several times.
Several times.
Several times from different offices.
Which is absolutely not true, because you can watch the video.
Yeah, we watched the video.
The guy's out in the middle of the street.
They take a couple shots at him from long distance.
And he's nowhere near anybody else.
And he stumbles.
And he gets hit winged or something.
Yeah, he stumbles.
And then on the CNN, they cut it off.
Yeah, and then you see the Associated Press picture with the female cop with the shotgun hanging over him.
And he's still alive on the ground.
Now, here comes the Asian, the Filipino guy.
Which as well...
And then they shot him.
About 10.30 this morning, the yet unidentified gunman began walking north on Vine towards sunset, apparently at first firing in the air, then targeting pedestrians and drivers, like Don Rydell, who was narrowly missed as he drove by the ship.
This is the guy with the headphones on.
So you drive by.
And this is what happens.
So I don't know how close that came to me, but pretty close.
So God was looking.
You can hear the news reporter prompting him.
Yeah, close to you.
It's close to you, right?
Close to you.
Because, you know, the guy's a little old, so he needs his lines.
King down on me today.
The critically injured innocent bystander shot by the gunman was rushed to a hospital as stunned witnesses described the rampage, the shooter shouting and firing all around him.
Now, did you hear that?
I could barely understand.
I'm talking about someone with a deep accent.
Listen again.
Listen again what he says the guy was saying.
And he's shouting and running, Allahu Akbar, he said.
Allahu Akbar.
He says he's shouting, Allah Akbar, Allah Akbar.
He says...
I was getting ludicrous.
Are you kidding me?
The guy was not running around shouting Allah Akbar, so they pulled this extra in to say that.
And if you Google it, there's news story after news story now, of course, because this guy was obviously, obviously a lone wolf terrorist and with guns.
We've got to get him off the street.
Whatever you do, whatever you do, please don't take a look at what's going on in Congress.
Please, it's very, very important.
You don't see anything.
No, no, no.
Nothing to see.
That's what's happening.
Total acting.
And I guarantee you, in 72 hours, we'll never hear another thing about this at all.
We're never going to find out about the guy who was shot.
Unless there's a reason, I guess, for them to pull it all out.
But it's just not going to happen.
It's not going to happen.
Sounds like you've stumbled onto one.
Alright, now do you want to hear the Holder stuff?
Yeah, Holder is a classic.
So, remember at the very beginning we talked about this?
Oh, actually, I'll tell you what, before we do the Holder stuff, let's thank our executive.
Okay, good idea.
I'm sorry.
Yes, we have a couple, don't we?
Yeah, we do.
We have one that came over the transom.
There's actually a couple.
There's another one, two of them.
Let me get my sheets, because we had some checks come in.
And we also had a couple of late donations, which will not be included.
Okay.
Oh, that's too bad.
Let's start with...
On the birthday list, you're going to have to add another birthday.
Oh, okay.
So remind me when we get to that segment.
First of all, we have a new night, and the executive producer for today's show is Richard Scott Bagwell of Boiling Spring, South Carolina, who gave us 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6...
Woot!
Woot.
Hey, we pay bills.
He says...
In a letter, I humbly submit my petition to become knight of the Noagenda Roundtable to listening for more than three years.
It is past time for me to do my part.
De-douche me, please.
Absolutely, my friend.
You've been de-douched.
Along with the knighthood, I'm requesting karma for my current work situation.
It's a long story, so I don't want to bore you with the details.
And I'll probably need it to last longer than a week, please.
Well, I'm not sure we can do that, but here is your karma.
You've got karma.
He's actually in Spartanburg, South Carolina.
It goes without saying, and I'll say it anyway, you provide the best podcast in the universe, and it is much appreciated.
Well, your support of the best podcast in the universe is appreciated, my friend.
That's awesome.
And he has a couple other notes at the bottom.
He doesn't want us to read, but he wants me to send in one of the bumpers.
I guess when you're driving in his car, we're sitting there talking with someone.
Just play the bumper.
Which one does he want?
Let's see what he says.
Can you please send me an old bumper you used to play occasionally?
It's the phone rings twice, kettle, this is the pot calling.
It's an old classic.
I haven't heard it for a while either.
Hello, kettle, this is the pot calling.
There you go.
By your command, sir.
Yeah, if you put it on the link to it, you can just download it.
Yeah, I'll make sure it's in the show notes, absolutely.
Okay, then we have a bunch of associate executive producers.
We have one, two, three, four, five of them.
Under Tari North, New South Wales.
Merry Christmas from Dread in Tari.
You bailed out there.
Kenneth Alexander in Tari, New South Wales.
Merry Christmas from Dread in Tari.
I will drink several pints to your health this Christmas.
And that's when you need to donate, my friend.
Yes, and then you need notes after you've had these pints.
He needs some karma for his home brewing.
Oh, very good.
You've got karma.
Good deal.
So he's in for $250.
Noel Malinowski in Winnemucca.
Winnemucca.
Nevada.
Nevada at $250.
I'm not sure.
This is a lot, but I wanted to ask anyway.
I was hoping you'd give this producership to the memory of my cat Snuffles.
Of course.
Okay, so Snuffles gets listed as an associate executive producer.
He died on 12-8-11.
I was wondering if I was able to purchase a knighthood in his name, or if it was only allowed for humans, we'd have to have a meeting.
Well, I'm okay.
I don't know, why not?
It's a posthumous knight, so it doesn't really...
It's not.
He's okay.
I also get a knighthood for myself and name him a squire.
Thanks for considering my odd request.
I just figured it would be a good way to preserve his memory for all attorneys.
It's a good idea.
Thanks for producing the best podcast in the universe.
And I wish all of you and yours a very safe and happy holiday season.
So it's Shire Snuffles who will be a producer?
Yeah.
Okay.
All right.
Sure.
Frederick Gagnon in Wasaga Beach, Ontario.
2222. Sending in a note.
This is a check that came in.
I've been a boner for far too long.
Please accept this donation to help you through the holiday period.
I only ask that you give me some karma to help me find a new tenant.
Oh, absolutely.
You've got karma.
There are no gendered listeners looking to rent a one-bedroom apartment in Wasaga Beach.
You can look for my ad in the Barry section of Craigslist and Kajiji is the one with ITM in the title.
Okay, that makes sense.
Well, we're going to need that kind of stuff.
A sustainable network of places to stay.
Yeah, we need our safe houses.
Safe houses.
Sooner on the run.
Safe house network, exactly.
Telling the truth.
Then we had another intro over the transom for 262 from Carrie Schoen in Deutschland.
She's the woman who runs these marathons and then gives us some money.
Oh yeah, right, cool.
She went through Austria, dipped into Switzerland in a new marathon, ended in, no, ran another marathon, which started in Germany, went through Austria, dipped into Switzerland, and ended in Austria again.
Once again, I'm sending 10 bucks per mile, and so it's 26 miles, obviously.
And I have NA in my ears throughout much of my training.
This is what helps her get through these marathons.
I want to mention this to people who like to run.
I don't want to call up my husband as a douchebag yet, but Okay.
For not having donated in a while, but I've got no problem threatening with a decrease in...
Oh, in what?
BJ's?
Tent pitching, but it originally says tit pinching crossed out.
Oh, tent pitching.
Until he steps up.
Hey, you know what?
I can imagine if you're running a marathon and you're listening to the show, you're just trying to run away.
I've got to run faster.
Gary wants you to do the Hot Pockets Euroland Tour.
Yeah.
I'll wait until after the apocalypse, if you don't mind.
All right.
And finally, our last associate executive producer is David Yeagley in Pleasanton, California, 20202.
John and Adam, here's a little bit of getting by money for the holidays.
You guys say donations are typically low around this time of year, but I think if you start bullying your audience, it's still somewhat legal.
It might actually help boost donations.
By the way, listening to the show makes my bogative commute painless.
Hey now!
Enjoy this haiku and keep up the good work.
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I was up until 1 this morning doing all that.
I was like, oh my goodness.
You get on one of these.
I do it once in a while.
You hit that.
That's the home run right there.
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Another part of the service we deliver to you now in the new outline format, which is pretty nifty.
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You can put them on your IMDB and maybe you too will be asked to shoot a phony Hollywood media.
To shoot someone out of there.
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These are a couple of domain names forwarding to noagendershow.com.
Two new ones here from Yop in Gitmo Nation Lowlands.
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Which is great.
I'm thinking of actually building that domain out because we can do individual pages.
Oh yeah, that would actually be interesting.
It would be kind of like the smoking gun site.
Yeah, deadwhistleblowers.com.
He also registered bravenwo.com.
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Very nice.
Then we have...
Sad news from our friend Ramsey, who was running nasocial.net, which is kind of the No Agenda social network.
He says, Adam, the spammers got the best of me.
A spam bot was able to create enough blog posts on nasocial.net, 29,000 pages in one day, that I was no longer able to delete the user because GoDaddy wouldn't increase my PHP execution time limit.
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The whole story here, the whole thing is bogative.
He actually says, I had intended to send a message out to all the good slaves who had signed up.
It would be bogative not to, but I couldn't even get into the site when the time came to send the mass email.
So long story short, I'm forwarding nasocial.net to noagendashow.com if anyone wants to contact me.
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And we will take you inside an actual pitch meeting later on in this show.
So, Attorney General Holder, that's general, apparently, to other douchebags on the hill.
So he's testifying about Fast and Furious, and so they're trying to get him on gotchas.
You know, by the way, I think they're using that.
Since I don't recall hearing it much in the past, I assume that the militarization of the country is kind of confirmed by now calling the Attorney General General.
Yeah.
He's not General Holder.
No.
He's the Attorney General.
Because Attorney General doesn't mean that you're like, it's not a rank.
It's a position.
It's a job.
Yeah, it's not a rank.
You don't move up the ladder.
I mean, it's an assignment.
How about Attorney Colonel?
What's next?
This is a five-star Attorney General?
I mean, the Public Health Service is militarized, and it's all based on military conventions, but the Office of the Attorney General is not.
No.
Well, a lot of calling him general, particularly from the Democratic side.
So remember on Thursday, we were talking about the question whether he had to be sworn in under oath or not.
And the chair of the committee said, no, no, no, it's, because ISA asked this, said, no, no, if you're testifying to Congress, then it's the same as being under oath.
But later on, and I watched the whole thing, and I really, and we really did the work this week for you, peeps.
Watching C-SPAN, so you don't have to.
This question came up later on before another salvo, and here's a little clip of how this was answered.
I just want to clarify your understanding of your being here today, because there was some confusion, I think, at the beginning.
Is it your understanding that you're here under oath?
That you're under penalties of perjury as to your testimony?
I'm here to tell the truth, sir.
Okay.
So you believe that you're here under oath.
Is that your understanding?
I'm not sure I'm technically under oath, but I have an obligation to tell the truth.
I'm here to tell the truth.
Thank you.
I hope so.
Thank you.
So he wouldn't answer that.
No, he didn't answer that.
Technically, no, but I'm here to tell the truth.
Really?
So, of course, this whole thing is bogus.
The whole thing is bogus.
He's lying.
He's just sitting there lying.
So then we have Sandy Adams, who is, she's actually former law enforcement, I believe she's a senator, and her husband was killed, and several of her colleagues were killed, and so she's pissed.
She's really, really, really angry, and she's even more angry.
She'd have to be a congresswoman, not a senator, a representative, in that hearing.
Oh, I'm sorry.
Okay, I'm confused.
Well, she's a representative then, yes.
Do you have any remorse for...
I'm sorry, that's not the right one.
Here she is.
Here we go.
Somewhere along the lines, somebody has to know something because this is an operation that's not just within our borders, it's crossing international borders.
So what rises to the level that the Attorney General of our United States needs to know?
What is it that you need to know about that rises to that level that you have an operation crossing international borders?
You now say that you didn't find out about it until after the fact.
And after inquiries happen, after Mr.
Terry, Officer Terry's death, What is it that would rise to the level that you would have to sign off on?
I love this question because it makes so much sense.
If you're doing an operation, you can't just be moving stuff into another country without them knowing about it.
And Holder is saying that he knew nothing about any of this.
So this is brilliant questioning in my mind.
This is a key question.
Since going across international borders isn't one of them, could you tell me what would be?
Well, first off, you are referring to these as memos.
They were weekly reports.
Well, any operation.
Is there an operation that would rise to the level that would need your sign-off?
Well, sure, there are things that I have to sign-off.
But not this one, the one that crossed international borders?
No.
Would the gentlelady yield briefly?
Whenever he's in trouble, then they always try to interrupt.
Can I answer the question first?
What one has to understand is, and I would urge you, if you have not done this, to look at these weekly reports.
Now he's saying the reports suck.
And to look at exactly what it was.
Mr.
Holder, I understand you had weekly reports, and I've got a couple more questions.
I want to make sure I get them in.
But I'm asking you, and I ask you, what would rise to the level for you to have to sign off on it?
Because this apparently did not.
You said you had weekly reports that you didn't review, and your chief didn't review.
So...
That's the question I asked, and you said there is, so I'm waiting to hear.
But while I wait for that answer, let me ask you another question.
This is good.
Because one of my colleagues asked you about your emails, and you went straight to your work email.
Hardly anybody has that.
I'm going to ask you a very direct question.
You have a personal email account.
Did you, at any time, at any time, Email on your personal account with Larry Brewer or Lanny Brewer and Gary Grindler in regards to Fast and Furious ever.
Yes or no.
The gentleman is recognized for an additional minute so the Attorney General can respond to her questions.
I don't know.
See, there's the house.
If that was a Democrat-run house, she's done.
She's done.
I agree.
I can tell you that I didn't know anything.
Would you check and get back with us?
If you need some help, I'm sure that your agency personnel can get into those computers.
Now, he has a guy behind him who looks like one of those three criminals that are always after Scrooge McDuck's money.
Like the Beagle Boys.
Yeah, the Beagle Boys.
He has that chiseled face, and he keeps whispering in Holder's ear.
Now he's whispering like, man, you don't have to do anything about your emails, man.
You don't have to do that, man.
No, no, no.
Just no, no, no, no, no.
Well, with regard to provision of emails, I thought I'd made it clear that after February the 4th, it is not our intention to provide email information consistent with the way in which the Justice Department has always conducted itself.
The exception that I made...
So what he's saying is that anything after the memo, February 4th, he's not going to provide any information in the most transparent government in the universe.
Yeah, that's so transparent.
Unbelievable.
In the hope that the Justice Department would be seen as transparent, was to go against that tradition and to make available...
Tradition!
The tradition.
He went against the tradition.
The tradition of life.
Deliberative material around the February 4th letter.
So again, as in when you were here before and I asked you about a totally different issue, you were saying that you refused to provide that information.
Is that correct?
I didn't hear the whole...
You were talking at the same time I was talking.
And please, you need to have more time.
I don't want to cut off your time.
I just didn't hear the question.
Oh, sorry.
How about that?
So the guy...
He says this because he needs one of the Beagle brothers to whisper more in his ears.
I didn't hear the question because the Beagle brother was talking to me.
Previously in another committee, when you were here earlier, I asked you another question.
You said you would not answer that question.
Now you're saying that you won't provide those emails because that's not consistent with whatever policy was previous.
I'm asking you, if there is clean hands here, will you provide those emails?
What does that mean, clean hands, exactly?
Well, I think it refers to, it could be some jargon that I'm unfamiliar with, but it seems, in other words, he's got nothing to hide.
Okay, because it comes back several times.
Not that I have it on clip, but that was mentioned several times.
They talk about clean hands.
To this committee.
As I said, I'm going to act in a way that's consistent with all attorneys general before me.
That's not my question, Attorney General.
You know, with due respect, that was not my question.
I ask you, with clean hands, would you supply those emails, whether it's work-related or personal emails, as they apply to anything that had to do with Fast and Furious?
To this committee.
Yes or no?
As I said, with regard to the Justice Department as a whole...
I yield back.
Mr.
Chair, I'm not going to get the answer.
As I said, with regard to the Justice Department as a whole, and I'm certainly a member of the Justice Department, we will not provide memos after February the 4th.
And that is a way in which we are...
With regards to e-mails, I didn't ask memos, I said e-mails.
E-mails, memos, consistent with the way in which the Department of Justice has always conducted itself in its interaction...
What about prior to February?
The answer was no.
Is that correct, Mr.
Attorney General?
No, but consistent with the way in which the Justice Department has always conducted itself.
This is not something that I am making up in terms of new policy.
I know, but you used the word not.
I took not to be no.
Oh, I said no.
I'm saying no, but again, consistent with DOJ policy.
Okay, hold on a second.
You have the clean hands?
I have the clean hands doctrine.
Good, good, good.
From the search of the legal research website.
A rule of law that a person coming to court with a lawsuit or petition for a court order must be free from unfair conduct, have quote-unquote clean hands, or have not done anything wrong in regard to the subject matter of him...
Or his or her claim, his or her activities not involved in the legal action, can be abominable because they are considered irrelevant.
As an affirmative defense positive response, the defendant might claim the plaintiff has a lack of clean hands.
So what does this mean in this context?
I'm trying to parse it myself, but it seems as though, I don't know, I'm not absolutely sure.
Okay.
I could read this definition over and over again and not quite get it, but I think this has something to do with whether he's a liar.
He's a liar.
He's a liar.
That's what it is.
You're a liar, but would you mind not lying for a second?
I think what she's referring to in this regard, looking at this definition, that they get the documents without somebody mucking with them.
Ah, okay.
Without it being redacted.
Yeah.
Okay.
Clean hands, I guess.
Two more short clips.
So this one is just the hubris one, and then we have the final knifing by Issa.
So, of course, we kind of already knew that there have been several, you know, lots of people have died because of these 64,000, and it is, it came out in the testimony, 64,000 guns walked.
This is not just a little operation.
64,000 guns.
You know how many...
Guns, that is?
It's a lot of guns.
It's a lot of guns.
And they're good guns, too.
They're not cheap junk.
They're long guns.
This is good stuff.
Come on.
But, of course, they always bring it back to the human element, and they're all pandering for the cameras, obviously.
Holder has never apologized to Agent Terry's family.
Yes, that was brought up in the last testimony.
Well, they did it again.
Do you have any remorse for what happened with Agent Terry?
Of course I do.
You've spoken to their family.
Have you apologized to their family?
I've had contact with the family that I'm not going to go into.
The nature of my interaction with them is between me and them.
Why?
Why won't you just say yes or no?
You know, I'm not going to go into the nature of my contact with them.
How they want to, if they want to reveal that, people on my staff, in addition to me, are in constant touch with the Terry family.
But you've not apologized to them, as I understand it.
I will say that I have expressed my feelings to them, and I'm going to leave.
You're the number one law enforcement officer in this country.
And a law enforcement officer has died as a result of a batched operation.
It's botched, by the way, not batched.
If it's batched, that means there was a whole bunch of them, which could be true, too.
I don't know.
Don't you feel some sense of remorse that you ought to apologize to the family?
I feel great remorse, great regret, and I have expressed this to the Terry family.
I'm not going to reveal to you in this setting the nature of the interaction that I've had with the Terry family.
I'm not going to do this in front of the media.
I'm not going to do it in front of a congregation.
That's all I wanted to establish.
What?
He's filibustered.
Oh, yeah.
He's lying.
Because the time clock is running on these guys.
So now we have the last one, and then I'm done.
By the way, do you ever think maybe that Agent Terry was assassinated now?
Oh, please.
That's why his staff is in constant contact with the family, threatening them to shut up.
Absolutely.
So, like, he stumbled upon this operation.
This is no good.
Oh, yeah.
He's sending tens of thousands of guns to Mexico.
Oh, yeah.
He was going to blow the whistle.
Of course.
It's so obvious.
So Issa, who was, of course, the guy who has been employed by the evil forces from outside to remove Holder, he plants a meme.
I had to consult the Book of Knowledge, but when I saw it, I was like, wow, I'm sure that you've been around long enough, you'll recognize it when you hear it.
We are not going to be turning over materials after February.
Are you aware that you are, in fact, by doing so, in the fact that we already issued from the Oversight Committee a subpoena, you are standing in contempt of Congress unless you have a valid reason that you express it, that you provide logs which you refuse to provide for the other information.
Otherwise, you will leave the committee no choice but to seek contempt for your failure to deliver or to cite A constitutional exemption.
So this is about the email.
So this is good.
The holder is setting...
ISA is setting him up to impeach him, essentially.
The Chairman's time has expired.
The Attorney General will be allowed to respond.
We will respond in a way that is consistent with the way in which the Justice Department...
Now all of a sudden it's we.
Whenever you're lying, that's when you use the we word.
You know, like we, not me.
We.
The Department has always responded to those kinds of...
That's not the question, Mr.
Attorney General.
Can I... Regular order, Mr.
Chairman.
Please proceed, Mr.
Attorney General.
We'll respond in a way that other attorneys general have other justice.
John Mitchell responded that way, too.
Regular order.
Did you catch it?
Yeah.
John Mitchell responded that way.
Hold on.
There are 40 more seconds.
It comes back, and then we'll discuss John Mitchell.
Mr.
Chairman.
Was that called for?
I mean, Mr.
Chairman, was that called for?
You're bullying me!
South Carolina has the time, but I'm going to allow the Attorney General.
Do you have any further response to that question, Mr.
Chairman?
To the question, Mr.
Chairman, about whether or not he understood that it was, in fact, an act of contempt unless they recited a constitutional exemption and still had a responsibility to provide us logs, both of which they are refusing to do in testimony here today.
The Chairman from South Carolina, his time has again expired.
Do you have a final response, Mr.
Attorney General?
Ms.
Adams asked me about, Congresswoman Adams asked me about political points.
The reference to John Mitchell.
Let's think about that.
Think about that.
At some point, as they said in the McCarthy hearings, at some point, have you no shame?
No!
What a douchebag!
Give him the douchebag!
We now go to our historian.
Have you no shame?
I've been put upon by the horrible McCarthy hearings.
Oh my goodness.
We now go to our historian in residence, John C. Dvorak.
How come this wasn't on the nightly news?
Because we had to have a phony Hollywood shooting to distract from the gun discussion.
Who was John N. Mitchell, our historian John C. Dvorak?
Well, Mitchell was the Attorney General under the Nixon administration and was part of the Watergate cover-up.
Yeah, and he went to jail for it.
And he did the same exact thing we're hearing from Holder, almost to a T, which is why ISA brought it up.
And they threw him in the slammer.
Yeah!
He was found guilty in February 1975 of conspiracy, obstruction of justice, and perjury and sentenced to two and a half to eight years in prison for his role in the Watergate break-in and cover-up, which he actually called the White House Horrors.
So we're waiting for that meme to come back.
Thank you, darling.
The White House Horrors.
So this guy is a total a-hole.
He's lying.
Lying through his teeth.
Lying.
You know, if he had any, which is typical of the, many of the Obama administration personnel had enough, I don't know, self-respect to quit.
You know, there is actually one more clip.
A holder, right when this thing broke, should have said, this is a huge screw-up by the department.
I quit.
I resign.
Yeah.
No, no, no, no.
No one's even been fired over this.
Not a single person.
No, well, they're going to find this is not going to turn out well if they keep this up.
And unless the Democrats get the House back, this is not ending.
So Shafet, who I think is Mexican himself, he certainly looks Hispanic, he's the one that has been enlisted in this whole scheme to discredit the president, which I thought was pretty good.
Isn't it a reasonable assumption to suggest that it may have been guns from Fast and Furious that caused that death?
Given the fact that there are, over the course of the last five years, 64,000 weapons that have gone from the United States to Mexico.
I have a hard time believing, Mr.
Attorney General, with all due respect, my time is short.
Twice the President of the United States has gone before the American people and said that you had nothing to do with this, you weren't involved in it, you weren't engaged in it, yet you said you've never spoken to the President.
How is it that he would know that you weren't involved in this and he could make such a claim if you've never even spoken to him?
Yeah, how does that work, actually?
It's magic!
It's not magic.
It's here's how it works.
If you were ever wondering how government works, here's how it works.
The President gets information from the Justice Department in a variety of ways.
We interact with the White House Counsel's Office very frequently.
I don't know exactly what the flow of information is within the White House, but he can find out about my state of involvement in matters connected to the Justice Department.
Let me move on to a...
You have access to, obviously, the emails of Dennis Burke.
On Wednesday, November 24, 2010, he sent an email.
It said, quote, Some of the weapons bought by these clowns in Arizona have been directly traced to murders of elected officials in Mexico by the cartels.
So, Katie, bar the door when we unveil this baby.
Bar the door when we unveil this baby!
Oh my goodness.
This is such a morass.
But it's not on the news.
It just gets better.
It's not on the news.
You don't see a single piece of this.
A single piece.
I can't find it.
And I'm watching...
It's not in the New York Times.
No, of course, man.
I got the Saturday Times.
I got the Sunday Times right here.
I don't see...
No, of course not.
If there's a story, it's buried somewhere.
I haven't seen it.
The Ministry of Truth.
The Sunday Times is so massive, it takes hours to get through it.
So it could be in there.
I have a little side theory on this.
Remember...
On the front page, that's for sure.
Reggie Love was kicked out of the White House?
Oh, yeah.
Buddy.
Buddy, Buddy Love.
Yeah.
Reggie, Buddy Love.
So I think that Daley kicked Reggie Love out so that he would not have executive privilege when it comes to being subpoenaed by the committee.
Because Reggie Love knows.
He knows that Holder talked to Obama about this.
He knows of these discussions.
Why would Daley do this?
Because Daley wants Obama out too.
They all want him out.
His chief of staff?
Yes, of course!
They all want him out.
That's why he's withdrawing now.
He's done his job.
Oh yeah.
Everybody wants...
All sides want Obama out.
Because his contract is up.
He's no good.
He's lost his nerve.
He can't act anymore.
He's no good.
He's no good.
This is our president.
In his weekly address...
Right, which I always watch.
I was listening to it.
I just said, I can't find anything to clip here.
Oh, come on.
Did you watch it until the end?
Because at the very end, again, it's like, Republicans suck, Republicans blow, they're going to...
Got to pass the tax cuts.
Oh, let me see.
I'm anticipating what you're going to do.
Go on.
Now's the time to do what's right for the American people.
No one should go home for the holidays until we get this done.
So tell your members of Congress, don't be a Grinch.
Are you the President of the United States?
Don't be a Grinch.
Seriously?
Oh my goodness.
Anyway, so I thought you were going to bring up a clip that Buzzkill Jr.
was predicting you'd do.
The fair share thing?
No, where he says, well, the Republicans say I'm not tough, but you have to realize that I've taken...
Yeah, I've blown up all the Al-Qaeda people with my drones, yeah.
No, he says he took them off the field.
Off the field, right.
Do you have that clip?
Off the field, what does that mean?
Do you have that clip?
He didn't say he killed them, he said he took them off the field.
Do you have that clip?
No, I don't.
We were all predicting you were going to have the clip.
I never could find the clip.
JC was telling me about it.
No, I didn't know.
I mean, there's only so many clips we can play.
Yeah, it's true.
Too many already.
Are you kidding me?
I mean, this Holder stuff is long, but it's important.
I haven't even gotten to the crummy debates, and I've got a lot of clips from there.
I tell you, I miss the entire debate.
This is how the show works.
John and I never talk, ever.
We just don't talk.
Maybe one email about something, whatever.
And the minute we email about it, of course, then we never talk about it on the show, which is why it's dumb to do it.
Right.
What was the thing I sent?
You sent me about the drone.
We'll do a drone segment.
I talked to my insiders in Virginia.
So I was doing this holder thing, which took hours, and then I was like, oh my God, the debates are on.
I'm like, I don't have to worry about it.
I know John's got us covered.
Yeah, well, probably got you two covered.
So, but let's take a break from this serious news.
Oh, no!
Hold on a second!
You can't tell me that it's time!
And now, back to real news.
I do want to mention that I did see the 3D version of Hugo, and I recommend it to everybody in 3D. It's probably one of the greatest movies I've ever seen, considering it's rated G. Yep, that's what you emailed us.
You told us to go watch that movie.
Yeah, did you go see it?
No, no, no, no.
I've been clipping!
Okay, so here's the one that you did see, which is an old movie that Buzzkill Jr.
turned me on to called They Live, an old dog of a John Carpenter movie.
John Carpenter, yes.
With Roddy Piper, the wrestler, playing the lead actor.
We watched this entire movie.
It is the worst movie in the world.
But it's got everything going for it.
No, it's got everything going for it.
However...
It's like...
Because Roddy Piper is a wrestler, so there's a fight scene which is like 15 minutes.
It just doesn't stop, a fight scene.
But the premise is great.
The premise is the government is using...
It has mind-control signals through television, which is just fantastic.
And if you have a pair of these special sunglasses, you put them on, then you basically see...
Every billboard says buy, consume, you will obey.
Literally, you will obey.
But then you can also see the evil elites because they show up as like robot faces, like Terminator faces through these glasses.
And it's on Netflix.
It's horrible.
It's a piece of crap movie.
But it's worth watching if you can get through it.
I had to watch it.
You can't stop.
We watched it all the way through, especially the final scene.
I mean, really.
Yeah.
And Mickey and I look at each other like, okay.
I thought the final scene was funny.
It's funny, yeah, it's funny.
But I did get a clip.
Oh, no!
I thought that the basic meme of the clip was what's happened is the aliens have taken over the world, but you can't see them because of this crazy device.
And so they're hanging around, they're just being regular people.
And then the elites...
As we would call them on this show, have sold out to the aliens.
And they'll do whatever they want.
Whatever the aliens want, they'll do it.
And so at one scene, Piper and his buddy corner some guy at a big meeting of all the elites that are being lectured to by the alien guys.
And the guy says, let me show you what's going on.
And he starts to show them about...
The back room and everything.
The back room.
The whole operation.
And in the process, they're still against all this, and they're going to end up shooting him at some point.
But he decides, you know, when they turn on him, he decides to give the spiel as to why the elites are in on this with the aliens, because, you know, this is just the way you have to be, and here's the clip.
Holly works in there.
If she made it, maybe we can find her.
Then we can go to the roof and break that signal, man.
Wait, boys, wait.
You're making a big mistake.
You made the mistake.
No.
No, you gotta listen to me.
I thought you boys understood.
It's business.
That's all it is.
You still don't get it, do you boys?
There ain't no countries anymore.
No more good guys.
They're running the whole show.
They own everything.
The whole goddamn planet.
They can do whatever they want.
What's wrong with having it good for a change?
And they're gonna let us have it good if we just help them.
They're gonna leave us alone.
Let us make some money.
You can have a little taste of that good life, too.
Now, I know you want it.
Hell, everybody does.
You do it to your own kind.
What's the threat?
We all sell out every day.
Might as well be on the winning team.
See ya, boys.
Of course, the movie is entirely based on truth, which is the best thing about it.
Yeah, according to Ike.
Fantastic.
So, it's hilarious.
To me, that scene there was about the New World Order, the international governments, the EU, and all the rest of it.
And they got drones flying around and stuff.
And they had drones flying around, exactly.
You couldn't see them without the sunglasses, but they're all over the place.
And this movie was like 1983, 1984?
1988.
Oh, 88.
No, it was later than I thought.
Oh, here's the Obama clip, if you want, about taking the players off the field.
We should probably listen to that.
Buzzkill Jr.
just sent me that in the back room here.
This was his...
...candidates have taken aim at your approach to foreign policy, particularly the Middle East and Israel, and accused you of appeasement.
I wanted to get your reaction to that.
Ask Osama bin Laden and the...
22 out of 30 top Al-Qaeda leaders who have been taken off the field, whether I engage in appeasement.
Or whoever's left out there.
Ask them about that.
22 out of 30 ain't bad.
And he took him off the field.
Off the field, yeah.
What does that mean exactly?
Off the field, yeah.
Did he kill him?
No, he took him off the field.
Okay, we're calling Yan.
This is falling apart.
This is no good.
It's no good.
We're going to bring Yan.
Come back, come back, come back.
Yeah.
This is why I started the show off by saying the people who run our world are insane.
Holder's insane.
Obama's insane.
Holder's really asking.
The Democrats, they're all insane.
And the fact that they challenge the Congress the way they do and think they can get away with it.
I mean, I think the Mitchell comment was correct.
Oh, totally!
Well, you know what it is, actually.
It's...
How come I... Sometimes these things pop up too fast and I can't...
There you go.
I have one more insane comment.
Lucifer was in Gitmo Nation Lowlands.
You know, the cloven one?
Yeah, I know that.
She's clopping around there.
What was she doing?
I didn't follow it.
Clippity-clopping.
Well, it's easy.
If you're on your way to Paris to get some new wardrobe and your hair done.
Oh, that's right.
She's got to get some hair.
She really needs it because she's just like tying it back in a ponytail because it's dirty.
Someone should just have the guts.
I think Huma is probably about to give birth.
Huma Abedin, who, of course, I assert...
She may have been doing her hair, for all we know.
No, no, no.
I think she's at home, ready to pop, and so she doesn't have someone looking out for her.
You know, like, yeah.
Well, maybe Huma normally was doing her hair, you mean.
That's what I'm thinking.
Okay.
So she did...
You know, the two of them, you can see them getting together, braiding each other's hair, and preening over each other, and braiding it, and then unbraiding and getting a little...
Look how nice it looks, and...
The crazy thing is, I can actually see that.
I can actually, you know, where you sit behind the other one.
And combing her hair with a brush.
And Hillary cocking her head to the side as her hair is being combed back.
It's so pretty.
It's so nice.
Oh, Huma, I love your youthful appearance.
So she's there at the National Security Conference in The Hague, Gitmo Nation Lowlands.
By the way, because I watched the whole, it's like almost an hour.
It was actually the candy man who allured me to that, and I appreciated it.
And it took a while for the video to show up.
We finally got it, so I had to watch that, too.
And this whole thing, I mean, if you just, whenever she said other countries, some regimes, if you just filled in America, It would make sense, because it's all about, you know, oh, the Internet, and human rights of the Internet, and everything that is being taken away from us, bit by bit, is what she was saying other people do.
But she starts the conference off, and talk about words matter.
This blew me away.
Well, good evening, and it's wonderful to be back in The Hague.
I want to thank my...
Colleague and friend, Foreign Minister Rosenthal, a longtime friend and co-conspirator from time to time, Eric Schmidt.
What?
Long-time friend and sometimes co-conspirator, Eric Schmidt from Google.
Oh, man.
Watch your words, lady.
Really?
What are you conspiring in?
Are you a conspiracy theorist, or are you just putting a conspiracy together?
That's amazing.
That's a great catch.
That's astonishing.
It blew me away.
Why is she glad to be back in The Hague?
Does she go to miniature land or miniature world?
Maduro Dumb.
Yeah, that.
Maduro Dumb.
I don't know.
Maybe she likes...
That way she can stand over the little towns and cities and feel that she's like King Kong.
Oh, you know what she can do?
Hold on.
Where is it?
It's one of my classics.
I can't believe...
Here it is.
She goes to Maduro...
If you don't know what it is, consult the Book of Knowledge.
Maduro Dumb is basically a little miniature Holland.
And you can stand over the houses there and go...
I mean, that is the land...
You can stand over them and look at them...
We saw, he died.
Yeah, exactly.
She's so evil.
Well, she may be the next president.
That's the end of our show.
She did admit to supporting techno experts again, if you're interested.
Yeah, well, she brags about it.
The second item...
I'm sorry, but if people can read between the lines, they would figure out what's going on, but everyone says, oh, that's cool.
What I want to highlight is a practical effort to do more to support cyber activists and bloggers who are threatened by their repressive governments.
Like America.
Ah!
The Committee to Protect Journalists recently reported that of all the writers, editors, and photojournalists now imprisoned around the world, nearly half are online journalists.
The threat is very real.
Now, several of us already provide support, including financial support to activists and bloggers.
And I was pleased...
Hey, why don't you support this show, Lady McDeth?
Why don't you support the...
We're online journalists.
Support us a little bit.
She'll have none of it.
Just another little piece of proof that they are insane.
Well, they're definitely arrogant to be commenting like that.
Doesn't care.
And all these cheeseheads.
And for good reason, because nobody is paying attention.
And the people in the audience, which was half empty, by the way, the auditorium, which was weird...
And they had really long shots of people.
And I'm sorry, these were cheeseheads.
These were just drones sitting there like, Lucifer, we will do what you say.
Support my blogging.
I will do what you want me to blog.
Disgusting.
Alright.
Debates.
Let's talk about the debates.
The only thing I saw was the bet that they made, which I thought was like, oh wow.
We've got one, two.
The Gingrich Zinger is, I think, the best moment was the Gingrich Zinger.
And we'll do that one, then we'll do the bet.
And the Gingrich, this was a good debate.
And the curious thing was, it was an ABC debate with the same douchebags who would never call on Ron Paul.
Or I could be wrong.
It was maybe some other douchebags that wouldn't call him.
So Ron Paul got plenty of time to talk.
Oh, good.
That's good.
And so it was good.
And he, well, in fact, let's do a Ron Paul.
Yeah.
No, no, no.
I'm sorry.
Don't let me jump around.
All right.
Let's do the Gingrich Zinger.
I think it sets the stage and the tone for the whole debate.
I believe I can take that message to our president and to the American people, and they'll say Mitt Romney understands the economy because he's lived in it.
I understand a merit-based society.
I believe in the principles that made America the greatest nation on earth.
And Speaker Gingrich and I have a lot of places where we disagree.
We'll talk about those.
Why don't you name them?
Places where we disagree.
Let's see.
We could start with his idea to have a lunar colony that would mine minerals from the moon.
I'm not in favor of spending that kind of money to do that.
He said that he would like to eliminate, in some cases, the child labor laws so that kids could clean schools.
I don't agree with that idea.
His plan on capital gains, to remove capital gains for people at the very highest level of income is different than mine.
I'd eliminate capital gains, interest and dividends for people in middle income.
So we have differences of viewpoint on some issues, but the real difference, I believe, is our backgrounds.
I spent my life in the private sector.
I understand how the economy works.
And I believe that for Americans to say goodbye to President Obama and elect a Republican, they need to have confidence that the person they're electing knows how to make this economy work again and create jobs for the American middle class.
Your response?
No.
Just a second.
You have four allegations.
Do I get four responses?
Take your time.
Okay.
Let's start with the last one.
Let's be candid.
The only reason you didn't become a career politician is you lost to Teddy Kennedy in 1994.
Now, wait a second.
Okay.
You'll get another response.
Go ahead.
That's good.
Hey, I'm sorry to interject.
I have an emergency situation here.
The recording failed.
The recording failed?
Yes.
On the recording that we've been making?
Of this program.
I want to point out to anyone out there listening, when I say I use a hard recorder to do these things...
That can fail, too.
That can fail, too.
So I am asking the chat room...
Whoever's backing up the show.
Hopefully someone is recording the show.
If you are using Windows Media Player, I think you can, at the end of the show, you can do a save as.
Please...
Okay, right.
Do that now.
Yeah, Lone Squirrel's recording.
I know, we've got everyone on the case.
Thank you so much.
I'm sorry.
I just notice it now, like this thing failed.
This is funny, because as we talked about this over dinner yesterday, this exact same thing, so I think maybe the vibe went out.
It's only happened once or twice before.
Yeah.
Oh, crap.
I'm so sorry.
I just noticed, like, oh, it failed.
It could be user error, you know, whatever, but phew.
All right, Lone Squirrel has it.
Is it recording now?
It makes no sense to record it now.
Lone Squirrel is recording.
No, no, it's good.
It's good.
We're lucky.
We're lucky.
So anyway, so that was the zinger.
You didn't hear it, obviously.
Of course I heard it.
Of course I did.
He says, because you lost to Kennedy in 94, you douche.
That's why.
So that set the stage for a lot of back and forth I thought that was good, even though he got a lot of booze and got everybody worked up.
And so then you got to the Perry Romney bet thing, which was in the same vein, Perry Romney no bet.
Well, I'm listening to you, Mitt, and I'm hearing you say all the right things, but I read your first book, and it said in there that your mandate in Massachusetts should be the model for the country.
And I know it came out of the reprint of the book, but, you know, I'm just saying, you were for individual mandates, my friend.
You know what?
You've raised that before, Rick.
You're simply wrong.
It was true then.
It's true now.
Rick, I'll tell you what.
Ten thousand bucks?
Ten thousand dollar bet?
I'm not in the betting business, but I'll show you the book.
I've got the book.
You know, this shows that Romney is a dick.
I know.
It's like two kids.
Ten thousand dollars?
Ten thousand bucks?
You know, we've done bets, John, what, for like a dollar?
A whole dollar?
That's just unbelievable.
And to me, I think they're going to run with that and use that as, you know, he's an elitist.
That's it.
When they make bets up there on their little podium there, they do it for ten thousand dollars.
I want to bet ten thousand dollars.
What kind of child are you?
Yeah, no, I found the thing to be incredibly juvenile.
So, meanwhile, so another thing happens where they all start going out, or actually the panel goes after Gingrich by asking about personal responsibility, their relationships, essentially skirting the issue of not saying, Gingrich has been divorced twice, married three times.
Right, right.
And this new wife could kill the election if you take a look at her.
She's weird looking.
She's the one that has all the half a million dollar Tiffany bill, right?
Right, and she's got those bug eyes.
Anyway, so they bring up, how important is Morrow?
And they bring up all this kind of vague question.
And they ask everybody on the panel, one after another, what they think.
And nobody will just come out and say, well, I think this question is about Gingrich.
And, you know...
So it finally gets around to Ron Paul.
They let him talk about it, and he deflects the whole thing because he thinks it's bogus that you would be talking about this in the first place.
And in a great move, Paul takes and essentially defends Gingrich.
You can tell Gingrich was happy because he's getting beat up by everybody.
But Paul turns it into a nice talking point, which is what we've always wanted to hear.
And he did it a number of times in this debate, and this one here was a classic.
You know, I think character is obviously very important.
I don't think it should be necessary to have to talk about it.
I think it should show through in the way we live.
And I think it should show through when you have a marriage.
And I have been married for 54 years and a family person.
But I don't think we should have to talk about it But you know what probably is, everybody is important.
If your marriage trials are important, what about our oath of office?
That's what really gets to me.
That's where you're really on the line as a public figure.
And that's where I think a lot of people come up real short.
Because there's many times that I've been forced to Congress because I take my oath very seriously.
I end up sometimes, believe it or not, voting all by myself.
Thinking that, why aren't the people paying attention?
Why don't they read Article I, Section 8?
You know, if we took that oath of office seriously in Washington, we'd get rid of 80% of the government.
The budget would be balanced, we'd have sound money, and we would have prosperity, and we wouldn't be the policemen of the world, we wouldn't have a Federal Reserve System, and we wouldn't be invading the privacy of every single individual in this country with bills like the Patriot Act.
We'd have a free society and a prosperous society.
Hell yeah!
Absolutely.
Yeah.
And of course, everyone at home went like, honey, can you get me a beer?
Exactly.
We still have the people, oh, Ron Paul is nuts.
He's not a leg to bow.
He's old.
So I was looking at these guys...
Not to belabor the base, it wasn't really, that was pretty much the highlights.
So I'm looking at these guys and their altitudes, and I'm watching the way they're shooting this.
They're shooting Ron Paul at an angle, a lower angle, no, it's a higher angle with less of the desk, and the podiums, I've got this thing on tape.
So it doesn't make him look so regal and presidential.
It makes him look smaller than Gingrich, who is probably the shortest guy out there.
Not only that, but Romney and Gingrich, because you saw the set, right?
Romney and Gingrich, when they took a shot of them, and someone pointed this out to me, they had blue in the background.
Everyone else had red, which is an old trick.
I was looking at the camera angles, and one of the things, first of all, I did some research to get to people's heights.
Do you know who the tallest one there is?
Let me think.
Maybe Santorum, actually.
Yeah, it's funny.
You would just think it.
Santorum is 6'4".
Wow!
He looms over everybody else.
But you'd never know that.
No, of course not.
Of course not.
So doing some research, this is the numbers I've come up with with some provisos.
Can I just say, this is the kind of analysis that you will only get on the best podcast in the universe.
I'm not even done with it.
Wait until I do the photos and I start altering.
I've got some geometric stuff.
I can really get a good look at this.
But let me tell you some of the stuff I've uncovered.
Ron Paul's 6'1".
He's actually the same height as him.
I've never met him.
I've only spoken to him.
I had no idea.
He's as tall as you are.
Mickey to 6'1".
Wow.
Okay.
I know who the shortest is.
That I know.
Santorum is 6'4".
Wow.
Gingrich is said to be 6'0".
So he is shorter than Ron Paul, but Ron Paul is shorter than him.
I'm thinking he's 5'10".
Rick Perry says he's 6'1", but there's rumors that he wears lifts.
Yeah, 3-inch lifts.
I've seen those rumors.
I don't think you can get a 3-inch in a foot, but you can wear a thicker sole and maybe get another inch.
He's probably pushing himself about 2 inches, so he's probably 5'11".
Mitt Romney says he's 6'1", and he probably is 6'1".
Yeah, he probably is.
He might be 6'0".
Herman Cain was 6'0".
Huntsman was six foot.
So everybody...
You missed one.
You missed the shorty.
Yeah, I can't find her height.
Oh, it's 5'2".
Okay, 5'2 makes sense.
Michelle Bachman is 5'2".
And if you watch the shot, she's always standing on a box.
Yeah, they gave her a box.
Yep, yep.
She's 5'2".
Which is common in television.
They're called apple crates.
Yep.
And there's different ones.
You have a quarter crate, a half crate, a full crate.
You're learning television, ladies and gentlemen, right here.
We don't know how to record a show, but we sure do know television.
And when you're doing shooting and you're setting up a shot and somebody's way too short, you look at them and go, we need a half crate!
Yeah, half an apple crate.
And some gaffer or somebody comes out with this box, and these are essentially apple crates that are a little more beefy, and they're painted flat black.
That's right.
And then the person stands on them and then everything looks even.
And that's what you want.
You don't want something real short.
You don't want a Mutt and Jeff look.
No.
And so I'm looking at these shots and it's apparent to me that they're shooting Ron Paul short.
They're doing what they can.
They lift the camera.
Whoever it is, they're doing.
They're making Gingrich, who's standing next to him, look bigger.
And the angles are interesting.
But what I was looking at was where the podium was along the baseline of the video image.
With Ron Paul, the podium was barely showing.
It was really reduced down, which indicates to me that they had some funny angle.
And when Romney was up, the podium, you could see a good two or three inches of it.
It was up into the shot, into the frame.
And they were making Romney look a little bigger than Perry when they had the opportunity to do it.
Something else I've noticed is that we had, of course, less candidates on stage.
We already know it's a reality show, but they're really making it look like people have been eliminated now, which, of course, is the truth.
Oh, good one.
So on the 15th, which is the next debate, which is Fox, will we see yet another one off?
Does someone get voted off?
Another one off the island!
Yeah, does someone get voted off?
I'm telling you, man.
This is...
I don't know how the ratings were for ABC. I think it was a very entertaining show.
I think it should have gotten pretty decent ratings.
I will say that after the Iowa elections, there will be at least two people voted off the island.
And it will be down to probably...
I mean, I think Ron Paul is going to do well in Iowa.
I hope he does.
ABC debate, high ratings?
Really?
Just hold on a second.
Let me make sure I'm not looking at past 24 hours here.
Looks like Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer did better.
Well, of course.
People should have watched this, though, because Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer was in the guise of Gingrich.
Doesn't that say enough?
Not only are our leaders insane, but the populace is idiots.
And that's like a really old and crummy cartoon.
Yeah, it's the 1970s version.
It was really crap.
Oh my goodness, I can't believe this.
So the other big news, and it didn't creep in so much to this, actually it did creep into this debate, I didn't get any clips from it, was Gingrich making the comment.
Gingrich, I still believe, doesn't really want to run for president.
I think he just wants to collect as much money as he can.
He's in the Clinton media camp, absolutely.
Yeah, and so he is trying to get himself kicked out, trying to kick off the other side.
I know exactly what clip this is.
And so he's got this, he decides to come on some Jewish cable channel.
The Jewish News Network, yeah.
The Jewish News Network.
It's funny, I didn't get a real good clip of it, but I did get a clip of it.
Gingrich goes on, he decides to really shake the dice and go with, Palestinians are bullcrap, they don't exist, they're made up, and this whole thing is bogus, which I think a lot of people believe anyway.
But it's not like anything anyone would say, especially a politician, but just play the little clip I have.
I think that we've had an invented Palestinian people who are in fact Arabs and were historically part of the Arab community.
And they had a chance to go many places.
And for a variety of political reasons, we have sustained this war against Israel now since the 1940s.
I think it's true.
They're not real.
It's invented.
This is made up.
They're invented.
Invented.
Who invented that?
Who went into his evil shack at night and invented the Palestinians?
So he's going for broke with some of this stuff, and it just keeps getting him more traction.
He's got the worst character references.
He's got this crazy thing going on.
He's making crazy assertions about building bases on the mood and putting kids to work, which is true.
And it's like he's just getting more popular.
It's ludicrous.
This is like watching the movie The Producers.
Well, it's actually like X Factor, where they had a sing-off, Save Your Life sing-off between Marcus Canty and Sharon Crowe.
And, of course, she was much, much better.
But then they kicked her off the show, and she, of course, is going to be the biggest star as this 13-year-old girl.
This is how it works.
This is what you do.
Gingrich is going to get kicked off the island, and he's going to go on to make another $100 million.
It's all going to be great.
It's all money still on Romney.
Yeah, I do not.
Well, I'm sticking with my Romney-Perry combination, because another thing you notice, if anyone wants to watch these things, they always put Romney next to Perry, and they have these little tatties that go after each other a little bit.
And they're in the middle.
Once again, they're in the middle of the panel.
Yeah, when Romney is speaking...
Perry stands in a very interesting manner.
He turns his body and he stands as though he is the second guy.
He presents himself as a submissive character.
He's not growling or grimacing or looking away like Gingrich does, who just sits there and scowls.
Perry looks like the good supporter.
He has that, just check the way he carries himself when Romney's going on with one of his long-winded explanations about one thing or another.
Can we switch gears before we get to our thanking segment here?
Yeah, I'm done with this.
Well, thank you for watching that so I didn't have to.
That's highly appreciated.
Of course, now we have the National Defense Authorization Act, which is moving through the process.
Soon it will be landing on President Obama's desk.
It has a high likelihood of getting vetoed because there's not enough power.
Not enough dictatorial powers for them.
Not enough power for them in there.
And of course, we kind of overlook the whole fact that along with $600 billion of your tax dollars that are put in there, it also has the 1033 program, which enables the Department of Defense to give away half a billion dollars worth of leftover military gear to law enforcement.
That's how they come up with the tanks and the grenade launchers.
Because our local police department needs to be proto-militarized.
Colonel Wilkinson Will Kirsten, sorry, who was Chief of Staff for Colin Powell, was interviewed recently about the National Defense Authorization Act, in particular, Section 1031 of Senate Bill 1867, and this is about the detaining Americans on the U.S. battleground, as Gingrich calls it, because it is a battleground here.
We're at war here in America against the terrorists, and here's what he had to say.
I think it's another step on the road to tyranny.
Yoo-hoo!
I think the Patriot Act was a huge, giant step on the road to tyranny.
I think things like this are another step in that direction.
I find it interesting that the individual on the Hill who this week was holding a hearing about Muslims serving in the military and so forth, Representative King, himself, if this were a retroactive law, would probably be in jail now for his support of the IRA. After all, they were a terrorist group recognized as such.
I just think it's the wrong direction.
Completely the wrong direction.
Of course it's the wrong direction.
And here's the thing.
And by the way, in the show notes at 364.nashownotes.com, we have the entire list of the senators who voted for the Defense Authorization Act.
You might want to take a look at that and vote those people out of office.
So who are the seven that didn't vote for it?
That I don't have.
I only have the ones who voted.
Yeah, I could deduce it.
But here's what's very interesting.
These people need to be voted out of office.
Here's what's interesting.
This particular passage, 1031, which states that United States citizens can also be seen as supporters of Al-Qaeda.
If you're tailgating in an Al-Qaeda match where Obama takes people off the field, if you're tailgating, if you have a tailgate party, then you could be deemed a supporter and you can be detained indefinitely.
Gitmo for you!
This was initially the act said, and this is amazing because Levin is about to tell us this.
Carl Douchebag Levin.
Initially, in the bill, That passed in committee, it said this does not pertain to American citizens.
That was the initial language in the bill that passed in committee that said, look, if you're a terrorist in America, we can detain you, military panel, all of that stuff, not a civil judge.
And it said, this does not pertain to American civilians.
I'm wondering whether the senator is familiar with the fact that the language of The language which precluded the application of Section 1031 to American citizens was in the bill that we originally approved in the Armed Services Committee,
and the administration asked us to remove the language which says that U.S. citizens and lawful residents would not be subject to this section.
Is the senator familiar with the fact that we...
Can you believe that?
So is Obama.
Yes!
Wow.
And Levin says it three times, just to make his point.
That was one.
The administration that asked us to remove the very language which we had in the bill which passed the committee, and that we removed it at the request of the administration, that would have said that this determination would not apply to U.S. citizens and lawful residents. that would have said that this determination would not apply
I'm just wondering, is the senator familiar with the fact that it was the administration which asked us to remove the very language, the absence of which is now objected to by the senator from Illinois?
That was astounding to me.
Okay.
Thank you.
So Obama called up and said, hey, I've got to get me these slaves in America too, man.
I've got to get citizens.
You can't just leave that out.
Wow.
Insane, I tell you.
Insane.
I was going over that bill and Feinstein tried to put stuff in and it was rejected.
It was just a mess.
I don't even know.
I'd like to see what the final bill looks like.
It's just obviously a disaster.
But it's another abnegation of Americans' rights to just be normal.
If anyone has a chance who's listening to the show or is listening to the show this week and can catch the news night from the BBC that will, I think, be running in reruns on different educational channels, there's a very good report on the London and UK riots by some researchers trying to get to the bottom of it.
And I will have some clips for the next show about the British police.
All the people that were involved in the riots, they say they're anti-police riots.
Yeah, of course.
They're getting sick and tired of the cops pushing them around for no apparent reason.
And this was a very eye-opening...
Newsnight has its moments.
It does, it does.
It's the 60 minutes of England.
But what I understood, because this has cropped up in a couple other reports...
This is to get more money for the UK police.
So they have more gear, they need tanks, they need stuff like that.
If you see this report on the Newsnight, this is not going to be anything you're going to want to give the police more money from.
It's extremely negative.
And I mean, it sounds like the police are too many of them.
They're out of control.
They don't give a crap about anything.
And it's going to cause nothing but trouble.
And everybody predicts there's going to be four out of five of the people that were interviewed, mostly in confidence, say there's going to be more of these riots until this ends.
And you've said this for years, which is that the British public will put up with stuff a lot longer than Americans will.
But when they break, they go nuts.
They do.
And they were saying, we burnt these buildings down for a reason, and when we saw a cop car, you know, because we'd rather go after the police, and we'd love to have burnt down a police precinct building.
So it's an interesting situation evolving over there.
I'd also like to thank a couple of the military personnel who have emailed us about the repeal of sodomy.
Between humans and animals in the...
Bestiality is the word.
No, but they don't say bestiality.
They say sodomy with humans and animals.
The reason why this is being repealed in the National Defense Authorization Act is, of course, to comply with nothing to see here.
Don't ask, don't tell.
The repeal of that.
So that...
Yeah, and I guess we're all just saying, I guess, you know, so sodomy is allowed again.
That is a part of Don't Ask, Don't Tell, Repeal.
And the farm animal thing is just, I guess, a bonus.
It's just like, you know.
I'm going to show my salute by donating to No Agenda.
Imagine all the people who could donate us.
Oh yeah, that'd be fab.
Yeah, on No Agenda.
Yeah.
You know, we have to lose that laugh.
Believe me, Mickey would love nothing more.
She hates it.
Well, everybody in this family doesn't like it either.
Really?
Yeah.
Well, what do I care?
You should lose it, and Mickey's going to get hurt.
You guys are betting that we're going to leave Texas.
You have a whole, like, a dead pool.
Yeah, but it's not part of the show.
Seattle, Washington.
Communication 2020.
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Let's laugh.
$121.21.
I appreciate how you spotlight so many, many, many, many, many, many, many bits of silliness, malfeasance, and stupidity.
I suggest you develop a feature on Bank of America.
All we do is complain about them.
They're going sideways in so many ways.
I didn't write my address on a deposit slip or they won't put my money in my account at the local branch.
He's just complaining about Bank of America.
But he did transfer his Bank of America money through PayPal to us.
Nice.
And then he said, Waka, Waka.
Waka, Waka.
Keep up the good work.
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Please boost some karma out to all those great producers.
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Ernie.
You've got karma.
Hold on.
Karma.
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Oh, that's Sarah from Sarah and Michael.
Who put us up in Shikshini there on Lake Shikshini during the Hot Pockets 2008 tour.
Good friends.
Donating $111.11 is an early Christmas gift for my husband, Michael Greer.
Also, thanks to you and Miss Mickey for your help with another Christmas gift for him.
I'm sure he will love it when he sees it.
What might this be?
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Now am I? $111.11.
That's very kind, Sarah.
Thank you very much.
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Cajun Country.
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Hi, John and I. I'm a long-time boner.
First-time donor.
Sorry the holidays have been so rough for the donations, which is like a dash of karma for a web project I thought I had in the bag, but I haven't heard back from the client.
Oh, I hate it when that happens.
You've got karma.
You need to call in the CurryDevorakConsultancy.com.
Thanks for the best podcast in the universe, he says.
Hmm.
That would be us.
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Hey, JNA, I needed some karma because work was sucking, but because I was a producer, I just thought I should donate to get some.
Well, the next day I picked up a six-month Microsoft contract.
Okay, that's not so great, so I figured I better donate quick.
However, I want to remind all producers that a single one-time $50 donation doesn't last forever, and as such, I like to call it the following individuals as douchebags who are not donating for a while.
Here we go.
And we'll do a douchebag after each one.
Scott Thompson.
Douchebag!
Frank Cohen.
Douchebags!
Jeff Juniper!
Douchebags!
Richard Henderson!
Douchebags!
You're all douchebags and are ordered by me, to me, by me, him, Justin, to donate $50 immediately or your no agenda karma will expire and you'll be kicked out of the Canadian Shockers Ham Radio Club.
Oh no!
Thanks for keeping this show real mofos and remember two in the air, one over there.
Let's hand him some karma as he deserves.
You've got karma.
Cole Calistra, North Attleboro, Massachusetts.
John and Adam, thanks for the show and all your hard work listening to C-SPAN. So we don't have to.
It's been a while since I last donated.
So it was time to re-up my Minutemen status.
Please send out a big karma shot to my mother who's diagnosed with spinal cancer.
Oh my God.
Fuck the cancer.
Couple nickels on the dime.
You've got karma.
There you go, Mama.
Also, double nickels on the dime for Michael Shimkus in Webster, New York.
54.69 for Michael A. Straight in Akron, Ohio.
Christopher Gray, 54.39.
Christopher Shue in St.
Martin, Minnesota.
During the holidays, people typically tip others for the work they do, such as paperboys and mall carriers.
I thought, why am I not tipping the two people that entertain me and inform me five hours a week?
Here's my tip for the wonderful service you provide.
It's a 12-25 backwards.
Adios, mofos, PS. We'd like a birthday shout-out, and he's going to get one.
He gave us $221.
So we're getting tipped now like paper boys.
Yeah.
Thanks, mister.
Thank you.
Well, we'll make sure your paper's not wet.
That's cool, man.
I really do appreciate it.
Big double bag, the New York Times.
But I don't see that as a tip.
I see it as just purely supporting the show, which is important.
Yeah.
Joining the cause.
Chad Biderman in, or it's Biderman, in Round Lake, Illinois, $50.
Bruns, oh, our buddies at Bruns Clothing.
I finally got in touch with me.
Water down South Dakota, $50.
Here's a donation from Bruns Clothing for the first four no-agenda trim jackets.
Embroidery choices so far have been trains good, planes bad.
No Agenda Black Knight, Agent Provocateur, and No Agenda Show, which is the one I put on mine, too.
I've got a black one.
I didn't get anything on mine.
I have the concealed carry pocket, but I don't have anything on the jacket.
I got a couple pockets, but I put No Agenda Show in black on black.
Do you have the concealed carry pocket in yours?
I don't know.
I haven't gotten it yet.
BrunsClothing.com.
Yeah, BrunsClothing.com.
Made in America.
It's an American-made, handmade jacket with all kinds of options.
So if you're in a cold weather area and you put that thermal stuff inside, you will never get cold.
What was cool is I have long arms, and so he gave me an extra large, but then he put an extra two and a half or three inches on the arms.
Yeah, they can do all that stuff.
It's just like a custom operation in China.
Yeah, exactly.
They're in Watertown, South Dakota.
Anyone can do this.
And he's got the embroidery machines.
I love that.
Yeah.
You can probably have a big crest embroidered on the thing if you wanted, if you had the code.
Dustin Kekta in Gilbert, Arizona, $50.
Kieran Burke in Framingham, Massachusetts, $50.
Miroslav Kovac.
In Astoria, New York.
My husband is a huge fan.
He listens to each show.
He also attended the NYNJ Meetup.
His name is George Kovac.
I made a donation in his name.
Please send him some karma.
I'm now in Europe with our baby, so I hope it will cheer him up.
Oh, absolutely.
That's so kind.
You've got Carmen.
Oh, that's love right there, man.
That's love when you have to, like, donate to a show where you think there's two idiot paper boys just to make a...
Thank you, that guy.
I'm sorry I did that.
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Sir Tristan Lennon.
Wagga, wagga, wagga.
South, New South Wales.
Tristan Wilson-Carrigan.
Seemed to be some relationship.
In Padbury, both 50 bucks each.
And finally, Vaughn Klitschka in Salem, Oregon.
Long-time listener.
First-time dedoucher.
Please send a karma shot for my wife, Becky, who broke and fractured her wrist slipping on some ice.
I give you a show, a shout-out on our podcast, FreelanceRadio.com.
D-douching and karma double shot right here.
You've been de-douched.
You've got karma.
And we'll give her a milk.
That's one mother I'd like to.
On the ice.
Also with Christopher Gray, I should maybe mention Sandra Gray, who he seems to be related to, was on the same check that came in the mail.
Rodney Adams should be added to the birthday list.
His donation came in later to be mentioned on Thursday, but his birthday was the last...
Oh, is that Atomic Rod Adams?
Yes, Atomic Rod Adams, and he was listed, birthday was yesterday, so we'll give him a birthday shout-out, so add him.
Got it.
Add him, Adam.
You got it, Johnny.
And that'll be it for today's, the people who joined the cause with their donations and the contributions and tips.
But let's not gloss over what we have done.
You do not have to watch news.
You just don't have to watch it.
I mean, you probably waste...
How many hours do you people waste with that idiot box in front of them getting like stupid Alec Baldwin, war with friends, whatever, words with friends, PR pushing down their throats.
We actually gave you analysis that is out there that any press organization could give you.
New York Times doesn't do it.
PBS doesn't do it.
National Treasure and PR doesn't do it.
Here we are doing the work.
And by the way, It's what we do.
I have no other job.
Yeah, I do some app show stuff.
But, you know, this is what we do.
And if you like it, if you think it's of any value...
And it should be able to get you laid at cocktail parties.
I mean, come on.
People look smart when you know about this stuff.
You just got to ease into it.
Yeah, you got to be careful.
Don't go saying, hey man, that Hollywood thing that was acting.
That's not going to work.
That is not going to work.
You start off a little easier.
Don't you think it's a little peculiar that?
Yeah, exactly.
Exactly.
We need to do guidelines again, John.
We need a guideline sheet.
Let people kind of work it out for themselves as you kind of push them along the road.
I was at the Mechanics Bank setting up an account.
To hide from your wife?
Yes.
The woman who was setting me up with the account, I gave her the no agenda card because now when I meet people, I give them a no agenda card so you guys should listen to this podcast.
Me too, yeah.
And she says, oh, that's interesting.
What is the show about?
And I told her, oh, you know, it's funny because when I watch the news, I've heard it's all bogus and it's like everything's a lie.
Really?
Yeah, she went on and on like this.
And I said, holy crap, you're like a no agenda listener.
You should listen to the show.
Who was it?
Who was it at the bank?
Who was it?
It was a little...
I think she's either Vietnamese or Cambodian at the Albany branch.
Oh, because we have...
It's Dow, I think.
What's our girl?
Our girl is...
I'm blanking on it now for a second.
The big, beautiful black woman.
What's her name?
I don't know.
Oh, yeah, her.
She won't get off the phone if you call her.
Yeah.
Hi!
Oh, how's Mickey?
How's Miriam?
Because she has all the legal names.
How's Miriam doing?
Sometimes she says Mickey.
And how's your daughter?
She's lovely.
Stephanie.
Stephanie Rogers.
That's her name.
Stephanie.
She does everything.
She's awesome.
Like, it's okay.
I know you guys are good for the money.
I know you'll get more money soon.
Yeah, that's how bad it is, folks.
Alright.
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She's a life-size Barbie doll.
She wants to do some crazy pictures and stuff.
So we need a sexy one.
And obviously, channeldvorak.com slash NA. Thank you all so much.
It's your birthday, birthday, birthday.
On no agenda!
Alright, Christopher Shue congratulates himself, 39 today.
Eric congratulates Tanya Foster on her 39th, and he says she's an awesome actress.
Mike Nikolaychuk, I hope I'm pronouncing that properly.
Is congratulating douchebag Sean Moni on his Sean Moni Esquire, who turns 33 next week.
And then, of course, Atomic Rod Adams, our official atomic and nuclear expert.
He celebrated his birthday yesterday.
And all of you, of course, will receive a card in the mail courtesy of the best podcast in the universe.
Douchebag!
And then it's always nice to be able to welcome a new member to the No Agenda, the roundtable of the No Agenda Nights.
And Richard Scott Bagwell today came in and really saved the day in these slow times.
Boiling springs!
That's right.
So if you can just draw your blade out there for a second.
Thank you.
I'm Richard Scott Bagwell!
I think we should do an English accent for this one.
Thanks to your support of the No Agenda podcast and the amount of $1,000 and more, actually.
1, 2, 3, 4, dot, 5, 6.
Please extend your middle finger and kneel for I hereby proclaim the Sir Richard Scott Bagwell, Knight of the No Agenda Roundtable.
Sir Richard, please take your place here for your hookers and blow, your red boys and chardonnay, and your hot pants and booze.
Lovely.
He seems to be in Boiling Spring, Spartanburg, and Gaffney.
He's a multi-dwelling dude, he is.
All right.
I did want to mention a couple of things.
I feel bad that I didn't go see Tanya.
Tanya had a presentation at a local bookstore, so we missed that.
And I know she listens all the time.
Aww.
And I don't know whether it was pronounced Tanya.
Tanya.
I think it's Tanya.
Tanya or Tonya.
Could be Tonya.
Could be, but I think it's Tonya.
I think it's Tonya.
I have to go to, there's something happening here in Austin, where there's going to be a welcoming party on, let's see what day it is, I think it's Tuesday.
Yes.
Tuesday.
A welcoming party for Attorney General Eric Holder, who is coming in to visit at the LBJ. You won't get within a mile of the place.
At the LBJ Library.
This guy listening right now is not going to let you know.
You're going to go ahead and heckle him.
Yeah.
Mic check.
Austin's great.
We went to the farmer's market yesterday.
There's a number of them around here.
Wow.
I've been to farmer's markets, but it's a real farmer's market.
The farmers are there.
They open up their truck.
The cool thing about it is they have a portable ATM so you can get dollars because you can't pay with credit cards or anything like that.
It's on around 4th or 5th Street in downtown Austin.
And, you know, you get some eggs.
You get it in a carton that has the chicken's name on it.
Who laid the eggs?
Actually, someone sold me some sorrel.
What do you call it?
Sorrel?
Yeah, sorrel.
I'd never tasted that before.
That's amazing.
You liquefy that and you make it into a great sauce, which you poured over the chicken, which you bought, which is just outstanding.
And everything is in round numbers.
It's like two bucks.
You know, it's four dollars.
Why did you go there in August in the height of the tomato season?
Oh, yeah.
Texas grows outstanding tomatoes.
Yeah, I can't wait.
And melons.
And what was really cute, I was standing behind the chicken lady, a dad with a couple kids, and the chicken was six dollars that he bought, and he only had five.
And she said, oh, we have a special today.
We have a special, and it's only five dollars.
And so they left and I said, here you have a special on the chicken.
And she says, you know, I just, I would never want to embarrass a dad in front of his kids.
So, you know, I'd rather give it away than embarrass him that he doesn't have enough money to buy chicken.
I'm like, that was a beautiful thing.
It was beautiful.
Yeah, that's great.
It really was.
Did you buy a chicken from her?
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
Are you kidding me?
Which we had last night.
With the sorrel as sauce, it was just outstanding.
And it's great.
You know, it's like 30 bucks.
You've done all your groceries for the week.
It's just outrageous.
Prices are right.
It's fantastic.
Loving it here.
And then we went to South Congress to do...
They have real farmer's markets in most of the Deep South.
Yeah.
And Texas.
They have several.
And not just on the weekend, you know.
Not just like some BS like, let's go to the farmer's markets.
Oh, the classic farmer's market in the San Francisco Bay Area is the one at the Ferry Building in San Francisco, which is on Thursdays and Saturdays or Tuesdays and Saturdays.
I can't remember the two days.
Down by the water.
It's a joke.
Yeah.
I mean, everything is jacked up.
Jacked up prices.
Instead of paying, like, you know, you can go to any vegetable market and get a peach for, you know, $1.50 to $2 a pound, these peaches are $3.95 a pound.
They're the same peaches.
Totally jacked up.
It's all bull crap.
It's organic.
No, it's not.
It's full of crap.
It's all jacked up.
The prices are...
And it's all the women that are roaming around.
They're all from Pacific Heights.
They don't know what a farmer's market is.
With their Chanel bags.
And they're wandering around.
I'll take two tomatoes.
That'll be $6.
That'll be $19.95, please.
But you can use your credit card.
You can't do any of that.
So this is beautiful.
It was a total reaffirmation of how happy we are to be here.
Meanwhile, John, and we're about to get into our presentation.
I actually wrote a blog post about this.
As predicted, and I think it might even be in the red book, I'm not sure, that the ESM, which I've dubbed the European Screwing Mechanism, although it stands for Stability Mechanism, has now been accelerated, moved forward, and they created the big Euro Pact.
The compact, I'm sorry.
It's called a compact, and I'm going to try and understand why, which Britain has bowed out of.
I want to do a little bit of analysis.
I don't believe there was a Dvorak Horowitz unplugged this week.
I didn't see one come through.
Yes, there was.
Crap.
Damn it.
Alright.
So you guys might have talked about this.
If not, or even if you haven't, please listen to that show.
It's very entertaining.
Here is Haiku Herman explaining the new slavery that is going to be introduced into Euroland.
The 17 member states of the Eurozone and already many others are committed to a new fiscal compact.
Now, I looked up the word fiscal compact.
I can't find it anywhere.
And it's a trick.
It's obviously a trick.
Because I don't understand what compact means.
I know there's a make-up compact that women use.
It means an agreement, but it's used and it must have some secondary meaning or code.
It has a legal name, believe me.
It's a legal thing.
It means it's binding and you're screwed.
A new European fiscal rule to be transposed in national legislation.
It is about more fiscal discipline, more automatic sanctions.
Punishment if you're a sinner.
Stricter surveillance.
Stricter surveillance.
We will be surveilling you here.
An intergovernmental treaty will make disagreement binding.
In combination with secondary legislation and the firm political commitments, this will give the fiscal compact its full force.
Okay, I've got the definition here in the free dictionary, the legal dictionary.
An agreement, treaty, or contract is like a treaty.
The term compact is most often applied to agreements among states or between nations on matters in which they have a common concern.
The U.S. Constitution contains the compact clause, which prohibits one state from entering into a compact with another state without the consent of Congress.
It's a legal term because they couldn't call it a treaty, because if it was a treaty, then everyone would have to vote on it, and we'd have referendums, which means the people would have to go and vote on it.
It would take ten years, and no one wants to have that, and everything comes melting down.
Yeah, it's an agreement that they can get away with it without having to...
A little more of Haiku Herman here.
This treaty will be open to non-Eurozone countries, except for one, all are considering participation.
Then, early March, at the latest, this fiscal compact treaty will be signed.
The ESM treaty, for its part, will be finalized in the coming days.
All right.
So this is where I was like, oh boy.
All right.
So the ESM treaty, and there's a blog post that I wrote about this, and there's a video you should see which explains in three minutes.
It's in German with English subtitles.
I'll just run through this for a second, and then we have to consult.
The consulting group has to get into action here.
So, the only country that bowed out of this compact is Britain.
And that's very important, and I'll tell you why in a moment.
So, I read the fiscal compact agreement, which is also in the show notes.
You can get the PDF there.
It's marked up for your convenience.
So, this ESM, European Stability Mechanism, which forces all countries to immediately pony up 700 billion euros, which is open-ended, So this was supposed to start in 2013.
Now they're going to sign it in a few days.
So this has been moved forward, accelerated, and I believe on purpose.
A little extra line here in the compact.
In order to ensure the ESM is in a position to take the necessary decisions in all circumstances, voting rules in the ESM will be changed to include an emergency procedure.
The mutual agreement rule will be replaced by a qualified majority of 85% in the case the Commission and the ECB, the European Central Bank, conclude that an urgent decision related to financial assistance is needed when the financial aid, when the financial and economic sustainability conclude that an urgent decision related to financial assistance is needed when the financial aid, when In other words, in order to bail out the banks, now only 85% of the eurozone vote is needed.
And this is the QMV, the qualified voting majority, which was agreed to in the Treaty of Nice.
It gives everyone a weight.
So basically, France and Germany would only need one more country to have the majority.
And that could be Italy, Spain, Poland, or a combo of two smaller states like Greece and the Netherlands.
So, in other words, if they decide that the slaves in Europe have to pay more taxes to Brussels, above and beyond the initial 700 billion euros, which has still not been paid in, then they can just say, you know, the three of us say you have to do it.
Now, Britain bowed out of this, and I think there's a reason why.
The official reason, of course, is that they would not get any protections for the city of London, which is its own country unto itself.
It's not really a part of Britain.
And I believe it's because...
The United Kingdom and the United States of America are actually working in tandem to ruin the Euro.
And I think now it's time to talk to our Obama administration, John.
I think we need to do our little pitch here, how they should play things out over the next couple of months or a year.
Are you ready?
Well, yeah.
Just follow my lead.
Okay.
I mean, just put your pinched nays on.
You're just the professor.
You just have to look good.
Oh, hi, Mr.
President.
Oh, Valerie Jarrett's here.
Nice to see you.
Hey, Goolsby.
I thought you were kicked out.
Oh, you're here anyway.
Okay.
Jean-Claude Dvorak is my esteemed colleague here.
He is professor.
Hello.
He is professor in, particularly in history.
Cool crapology.
Bookrapology and bookativity.
And he also completely understands fractals and history.
So we'd like to...
Jean-Claude, could you please hit the lights?
Thank you.
Thank you.
First slide, please.
Okay.
So here on this slide, you see what normally takes place and where we believe you should go.
We believe that you should have all countries in the world go into more debt.
Okay.
And we really need to spin this debt up.
Really, really, everyone has to owe all kinds of money to the banks.
And here on the next slide, you see what the collateral will be.
Now, Jean-Claude, could you please explain typically what countries put up as collateral when they borrow money?
Well, they should put up their entire country, actually.
Yes.
The buildings, especially the resources, and also any contracts and obligations with other countries probably should be taken and put into an escrow account so we can control them.
Great.
And then...
And then there'll be a long process of repaying the debt at a very exorbitant interest rate in such a way that it actually can't be repaid.
Right, right.
So, of course, what my esteemed colleague is saying is that in history, throughout history, I think Jean-Claude is saying this.
Next slide.
You'll see it here.
Typically, when a country will have to default, who will become the owner of all these resources and buildings and, in Greece's case, even the assets of the Olympic Games?
It depends on how we structure it, but I would say probably the IMF on behalf of a bunch of big banks.
Yes, very good.
Goldman Sachs, of course.
But what will they own?
They will own all of that, right?
They'll own everything.
Basically own the place.
Right.
Let's take a little example here in the United States of Gitmo Nation.
Next slide, please.
Okay.
Here we have California.
So California, if they were to default, what would happen?
Who would own California and who would be able to tell California what to do?
Would that be the same people, Jean-Claude?
It would be a bank consortium.
Great, great.
By the way, what really makes the money here is that you push everybody out of their homes and then depress the housing prices as much as possible, even though there's a shortage of housing and there's a population growth, but the prices are down.
So you push the, collapse the market, and then take up all the properties, and make sure you put in some legislation so you can't be taxed.
The property tax doesn't really apply to the bank that now owns the building, so we just default on that, too.
And then grab all the property you can at a really low price, and then start, once it's all completely collapsed and everybody's out of their houses, you can start doling the houses back in, crank the prices up, now make them valuable, and then collect all the money that's, all the huge profits to be made in this deal.
As you can see, this is why the Curie-Devorak Consultancy is exactly the people who should be advising you through the collapse of the entire global financial and economic system.
So we believe the timing for this, the timing, we think should be around September or...
I think, let's keep it at September.
It could be August, September.
This is when we will have more downgrades, of course.
Next slide, please.
This is where we will have downgrades from the standards and pours and all your other friends in the ratings agencies, which will essentially collapse the entire market.
Jean-Claude, that is the plan, right?
That's how we decided to do that?
I like the downgrade scheme.
Okay, the downgrade scheme we think is very good.
Now, you have done a fantastic job, and oh, hello, Lucifer.
Thank you for being here.
Lucifer Clinton, you've really done a great job with demonizing Iran.
We think the...
The United Nations report, which contained nothing about nuclear weapons.
We thought it was a stroke of genius to say that you had tens of thousands of pages from other countries claiming that Iran has the bomb.
By the way, nice touch on the drone.
That is really fantastic.
We really like that.
Next slide, please.
So the IMF, of course, will then own everything.
You are in the pockets of the IMF. But then, Mr.
President, there is one minor issue, and that is your follow-on election.
We know that you wanted to quit.
We have a real issue because the bankers will need you to stay on.
And, of course, your ratings are at an all-time low.
Here at the Curry-Dvorak Consultancy Group, we think it's a brilliant strategy.
Again, I go to my esteemed colleague, historian, Professor Dvorak.
Here's his slide on the matter.
When the economy collapses, what is the best thing to do, Jean-Claude?
We have seen this I think two times in recent history.
I think that Haiku Herman, for the benefit of the success of this plan, needs to probably have a fake assassination.
And that would be the start to what we believe should be the war against Iran.
In fact, we think if you can collapse the economy with your ratings agency scam in September, what comes after September?
Here it is.
You've seen this before.
Yes, we call it the October Surprise.
And we believe that that is the moment when you should strike Iran.
Jean-Claude, will you please explain the historical significance of the October Surprise?
Well, it's been done so many times it has become a fractal.
Things always happen in October.
And that's to prepare the masses for the insiders to know that in October you always have to be on your toes.
And is it not true that in the United States of Gitmo Nation, the elections typically take place in November, which we have the slide here, which in the Western system comes after October?
And I believe, Jean-Claude will back me up as a historian, that a sitting U.S. president has never been ousted from power during a time of war.
Is that correct, Jean-Claude?
This is true, yes.
Good point.
So, final slide, please.
There you have it.
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Lights, please.
Thank you.
Well, that went ten minutes too long, but...
That would be our last passion play, I want to warn people.
Our last what?
Passion play.
Passion play?
What do you mean?
It was a play.
It was a passion play.
It was a type of play that they used to do in the Greek and Roman times.
Yes, well, we're both old enough to have moved through that.
Tend to be corny.
Yeah, well, it was corny, but I think that you can put that passion play in the Red Book.
I called the AT&T. So this is basically a long-winded prediction that the European Union is going to attack Iran, or we are, in October of this year.
No, October 2012.
Yes, after the global collapse around September.
It's a possibility.
I believe that the global collapse, they won't be able to hold it back and it's going to begin in January.
They're going to have to hold it back.
They're holding it back now, and just to get through Christmas, they're having nothing but trouble.
I had to call the AT&T guy to turn on my daughter's text messaging in Europe, because I'm like, no way, I'm not going to let you rack up another bill with your frickin' iPhone.
And then the guy was just like, I can't remember what it was, but he said, you have no idea.
There's so many people over in Europe right now, and they all want the text messaging plan.
And they're all going to, I don't know, this thing going on there.
There's something really big about the financial industry.
And I said, yeah, well, it's this whole save the Euro thing.
He said, yeah, yeah, that's right.
And I had a guy, and so the guy just starts talking to me.
And he's in Oklahoma.
He says, you know, I had a guy who works with the Federal Reserve, and he says, oh, you have no idea.
It's all going to collapse.
It's all going to come down.
The whole thing is all effed up.
It's crazy.
We're all screwed.
And this guy's like, well, I'm glad I'm in Oklahoma.
We got 10 guns for every person here.
Like, yeah, I'm a Tejas baby.
So it's everywhere.
It's everywhere.
I hope Comcast and Time Warner can stay on the air so we can have a show.
Yeah, what happens if they, well, they will.
You know, this only affects really the, they're going to be in business because the big media companies, you know, are part of the whole scheme of things.
That's true.
They may be throttling.
Yeah.
Here's some more guys on Skype, let's put the screws to them.
Excuse me.
Did you hear Bunky Moon?
He must be listening to the show.
Bunky Moon?
Yeah, Bunky Moon.
Yeah, what did he say?
Homophobic bullying of young people constitutes a grave violation of human rights.
Brother.
And people get mad when we talk about this stuff.
Oh, we had a couple people quit.
They said, you know, we are sick of your show.
You hate gays.
It was the one, it was in the last spreadsheet, it was like some guy went up, a huge rant.
He had a couple, we should probably...
No, he's like, I'm never listening to your show again because you're anti-gay.
It's like, hello, I'm bicurious, what the hell are you talking about?
This is bullcrap.
Adam is very pro-gay.
Yeah, extremely pro-gay.
It's the opposite.
Yeah.
But, you know, homophobic bullying of young people, that is not a violation of human rights.
I'm sorry, that's bullcrap.
It is just not.
It's not nice.
It's dumb.
It's ignorant.
And probably done by people who actually have gay tendencies.
That's usually the way it goes.
Yeah.
To look at the Republicans in our own government, all against gays, and then they're like, you know, tapping feet in the restroom for a quick BJ. No, no, no, no, no.
That big preacher, there was a documentary about the guy, and he was completely gay.
But this is very, very dangerous, because this will eventually remove the right to free speech.
Bullying of this kind is not restricted to a few countries, but goes on in schools and local communities in all parts of the world, Mr.
Bunky Moon said, in a message delivered by the Assistant General for Human Rights, Ivan Imonovich, to a panel discussion on ending violence and discrimination based on sexual orientation.
Well, violence, of course, is illegal.
It's illegal.
Violence is illegal.
Yeah, well, it's illegal already.
So why add the proviso?
Because it's about removing your right to say anything.
That's exactly what it is.
I'm going to read a note from someone who said, I'm going to do this once in a while, but I don't encourage it.
Okay.
Sir Jason Rosdilsky sent in a small donation, but he was drunk, so I thought this was...
He forgot a zero?
This was last week.
He says, okay, so I know this won't get aired on the show, but I think he wants some karma.
That's the reason I'm bringing this up, because I think we should probably help him out here, because if you listen to his plea, you'll see why.
Okay.
I don't know, this won't get out on the show, but I'm a college student who is drunk as a Rick Perry at a debate and a neck deep in debt, but the Coors Light is making life a lot easier.
I'm right in the middle of episode 360, the Anderson Pooper episode, and I need to redact my douche status.
You can think about giving my friend Samantha, known as Sam, karma because she's going through a bad breakup of a boyfriend of almost four years and send me some karma because I haven't had sex in 14 months.
And maybe this might increase my chances.
If this works, in other words, if you have sex with Sam, I will send you a magical 6969 to show my thanks, so I think it's worth the investment.
You've got karma.
Can you just...
Just imagine, like, you're Samantha and you hear this.
Like, what?
What?
Well, he's a knight.
He can do these.
No, he's actually, he's not really a knight.
He wants to be a knight.
We'll call him.
Right.
So anyway, that's just a little call out for somebody out there in trouble.
So normally this would be under Drone Nation, but actually I think that it's more under...
All aboard, trains good, planes bad.
Woo!
A lot of drone news popping up.
And there's a couple of irritating ones.
Here's the first one.
Popular Mechanics, which we know is a total New World Order shill publication.
They think steel buildings on fire evaporate.
They wrote their report of Air France 447.
This is the Airbus that went down in a crazy manner.
So they give the transcript and everything, and they draw the following conclusion.
Ahem.
After this accident, the million dollar question, I don't know why it's a million, because they're popular mechanics, I guess they know, but it makes sense.
The million dollar question is whether training, instrumentation, and cockpit procedures can be modified all around the world so that no one will ever make this mistake again, or whether the inclusion of the human element will always entail the possibility of a catastrophic outcome.
So they are now on board with the unmanned aerial vehicles.
Then we have the IEEE. Now this is an engineering organization.
Is that correct, John?
Yeah, they're the big ones.
IEEE as it's referred to by the insiders.
So they have a website, a magazine, Spectrum.
And here is their quote that they got from the CEO of Boeing Airlines.
In the sphere of commercial flight, too, automation has thinned the cockpit crew from five to just the pilot and the co-pilot, which is actually the first officer, whose jobs it has greatly simplified.
Do we even need those two?
Many aviation experts think not.
Where was this?
This is in the IEEE spectrum.
Oh, brother.
It's in the show notes, of course.
I missed that one.
In Portland.
Last quote, you'll see it in freighters first over water probably, landing very close to the shore.
So this entire drone thing is a setup.
We will fly on drone.
Everything's going to be a drone.
In fact, the police in, where was this, Nelson County, Washington, Armed with a search warrant, Nelson County Sheriff Kelly Janke went looking for six missing cows on the Brossard farm in the early evening of June 23rd.
Three men brandishing rifles chased him off, he said.
Janky knew the gunman could be anywhere on the 3,000-acre spread in East North Dakota.
Fearful of an armed standoff, he called in reinforcements from the State Highway Patrol, a regional SWAT team, a bomb squad, ambulances, and deputy sheriffs from three other countries.
He also called in a Predator B drone.
This were some guys who just said, get off my property.
Because six cows went missing.
So they called in a predator, not just like a little camera thing, a predator drone.
What a waste of the taxpayers' money.
It's all going to end when we're dead, broke, and bankrupt as a country.
So this...
So what you're saying or implying, I would think, about the whole Iranian thing, which we're going to have to talk about for a minute.
Yep.
And I do have a clip.
Good.
Which kind of sets up the whole thing, and it's got a couple misleading pieces of information.
It's done by Anderson Pooper.
Of course.
Uh, was that these things are so amazing, these drones, and you can imagine a pilot of this aircraft because it was parked on the tarmac with its wheels down and it apparently landed in the middle of the desert.
No problem.
Didn't get dented.
Nope.
How did that work?
The stolen drone, you mean?
Yeah.
Okay.
So first of all, it has its own tweeter address.
You realize that, right?
No, you got me on that one.
The drone is tweeting.
You sure?
It's not just a hoax if you just...
Really?
Yeah.
It's very, very funny, actually.
I forget what the...
It's a hoax.
Yeah, of course it's a hoax, but the drone is saying stuff like, boy, this lack of sleep mode deprivation is really getting to me.
Back to the story.
Okay.
So set up your clip, and then I have information from our inside.
Well, here's a clip that's a background, and for people who didn't follow this, this lost drone, this drone is apparently we have a drone, a stealth drone, that somehow, instead of going to its fail-safe, In other words, it lost contact with headquarters.
It should immediately at that point...
Return home.
Return home.
It goes right into the GPS mode, turns around and goes home and lands.
That's what they do.
That's what they're coded to do.
And that's why if you have them flying around the U.S. and you can send any sort of scrambling beam up and aim it at them, it'll just turn them off and they go away.
And then if there was something really bad with it, it would have crashed.
Or would have landed in the middle of nowhere and not necessarily given out a signal where it was.
But somehow it landed right in somebody's backyard and the Iranians picked it up and rolled it over to the – it didn't take off again or anything.
I mean this whole thing is just so weird.
Bob, here's the clip.
Do you agree with that, that this is technology that the Iranians might share with the Russians, the Chinese?
Oh, absolutely.
I mean, if the Iranians themselves can't get into this and figure out how it works, they'll invite the Chinese in from one of these peristatal companies.
They'll look at it, and this is...
Extremely damaging because this drone had, you know, thermal imaging cameras.
The resolution on the photography is very, very good.
And as we know, it's the same drone that was used to surveil bin Laden's compound before the raid.
I didn't know that.
It's bogus.
A key role in collecting intelligence, as it does against Iranian nuclear facilities.
So, Bob, are countries like China and Russia, they don't have this drone technology already?
Not this good, no.
We truly are at the best.
We've been working at it for 10 years.
It's been a key element in the war in Afghanistan and Iraq and over the tribal areas of Pakistan.
I think this is another intelligence catastrophe.
Yeah.
Well, no.
No.
So I spoke to my insider who works in Virginia.
Nuff said.
Nuff said, right?
And so I said, hey, is this...
Because obviously, you know, the drone should have flown home, so the only thing that could have happened is that someone intercepted the signal and then steered the drone away and then had it land nicely.
They would have to have all the decryption and encryption information, assuming...
It's encrypted.
Thank you.
Remember that I think we relayed it on the show that often it's so buggy that they just turn off the encryption just to be able to fly the thing.
So I contacted the Drone Insider and the Drone Insider, and I'm just going to quote verbatim about your question, I think the people running the drones are super incompetent and have too much going on when it comes to academics supporting them with intelligent solutions Then they don't even know how to manage it after they acquire it.
Sometimes they get this research software, get it almost free, and don't even update it.
Also, anything leaked to the media is always an inside job.
I can't even confirm if this stolen drone crap is true.
And I'll take that as, they don't have no drone.
They didn't get no drone.
It's all just another PR campaign.
Well, that would make more sense than what we're hearing.
This drone lands pristine condition.
We see a bunch of pictures of it, but who sent us the pictures?
Yeah, and it's just another thing to slam Iran, so we have another thing against them.
Have we heard anything?
Is there any Iranians that listen to our show?
Is this news on the Iranian media?
We can figure that out.
We'll look at that after this show.
Mm-hmm.
And then again, you know, the whole thing, it could have been a real drone that they do have that has got nothing going on.
I mean, just like, let's take this cool drone and give it to them.
This is a cool drone, man.
Hey!
It's a cool drone.
Let's send it to Iran.
Let it land over there.
Act all like it's like a lost orb, a lost puppy.
And put a bunch of gear and crazy things in there that, you know, says some weird stuff on, like, you know, thermal imager.
And it's got, like, some crazy circuit in there.
It's really an old, you know, Z80 computer or something.
And let them suffer with it.
It's a BBC spectrum.
I mean, it could be a misinformation drone.
You put that, you know, why not?
I mean, then they can also see where the channel is.
Does it end up in China?
Is there something coded so when you turn the circuit on, does it send a signal to the internet and say, okay, here I am.
Move me to China.
I'm in China.
China.
I mean, there's lots of ways of doing that.
That's what I would do, and you set it up so the whole thing is a honeypot.
Right.
Let's see if the Russians and the Chinese or the Chinese are in bed with Iran exchanging technology.
This is one way of finding out.
There is hope, though.
We were having a coffee at Joe's yesterday.
I was sitting next to a guy, and he's like, you know, this is kind of an outside thing.
We're drinking coffee.
I said, is that a Kindle fire?
He said, no, no, that's a Nook.
I thought it was a Kindle fire.
Yeah, it looked very similar.
Yeah, and then he said something about it as a pilot.
I'm like, oh, you're a pilot?
And so he's actually the FAA Czech Airman for Falcon pilots.
And so we're talking, and he's older.
He has three kids in the debate team.
He's from Dallas, so they were debating in Austin.
And, you know, whatever, it came around to some no agenda crap.
And he says, you know, my kids, they think all this drone stuff is just to get us all used to the fact that we're going to be surveilled all the time.
And I'm like, wow, that's nice.
The new generation, even though I don't give a crap.
That's the thing.
They also, yeah, yeah.
I don't give a crap.
They will give a crap eventually, just like the British kids.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah, they will.
And this nonviolence thing, that's going to end.
Two more iterations of these protests, which will happen.
At some point, that's going to be the end of it.
We're going to hear what, when I get some clips from this special report, these kids are like burning stuff down on purpose.
Last item for me, the National Institute of Standards and Technology, known as NIST, based near Washington, D.C., near would be, you know, like in Spooktown, is expected to conclude its long-awaited report this month that will state that ordinary fires caused World Trade is expected to conclude its long-awaited report this month that will state that ordinary fires caused World Trade Center 7 to collapse, which would make it the first and only steel skyscraper
WTC7 won't come away.
So, the Ministry of Truth.
Before we finish the show, a couple of things.
One, I want to remind people if they're in the mood for joining the cause, joining the show, actually, and donating.
Tomorrow is 12-12-11.
12-12.
Well, today is, if you're in Europe...
12-11-11.
Today is 11-12-11.
11-12-11, if you want to do it that way.
And tomorrow is 12-12-11?
Or 12-12-11.
Either one.
12-12-11 or 12-12-11 if you want to flip the date in the month.
Thank you for that.
Alright, so...
I want to mention a couple of things before you finish this.
One, there is no Syria in the news.
No, I know.
At all, in terms of the New York Times.
They just completely bumped it.
I looked and looked.
I couldn't find it.
Syria has been voted off the island.
But there was a very good article.
People should go check out the...
National section of the New York Times on page 6 in its Sunday paper.
And they're making the Salafis, which are a radical group of Islamists that are essentially the Wahhabists, into what sounds like a political party when they're not.
And you should read that article and I'm going to try to dissect it for the next show.
Nice.
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