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When he says folks, that would be the key word for the message.
Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak.
And Sunday, October 30th, 2011, time for your Gitmo Nation Media Assassination, Episode 352.
This is No Agenda.
Bracing for the Euroquake here at the Hilltop Watchtower Crackpot Command Center in the People's Republic of Southern California.
In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
And from Northern Silicon Valley, where over-modulation is the theme, I'm John C. Dvorak.
Am I over-modulating on you?
No, every time you know we're chatting away and we start the show and then all of a sudden it goes from...
I start to talk loud.
It pins the needle.
I gotta go...
Well, we've only been doing it for 352 episodes, so by now you should have learned.
No.
Okay.
Well, in the morning to you, John C.W. I assume everything is the same.
And in the morning to you, Adam Curry, all ships at sea and boots on the ground, feet in the air, and balloons in the sky.
And drones over Texas.
And, of course, the human resources in the chat room who have shown up for this lovely Sunday, our Halloween weekend.
Of course, all of you are depreciating rapidly.
Although with inflation, I think actually we might all be reset back to our $9.2 million value, and you can find them in the chat room, and you can join them every single Thursday, Saturday morning.
Please adjust for your time zone, noagendastream.com, noagendachat.net, which is, I guess, Gitmo Nation East adjusted their time today, which I'm sure somehow is screwing the Occupy Wall Street people.
Well, what's screwing the Occupy Wall Street people is the weird, and I guess it hasn't happened for 200, 300 years, a snowfall in October.
Yeah.
Global warming.
Well, you can call it that.
Measles.
I think not.
Or maybe just someone said, hey, turn on the machine.
Give these guys some snow.
You know weather modification is nothing new.
That's totally possible.
The Chinese made it snow during the Olympics.
They blocked the snow during the Olympics.
They made it snow somewhere else.
Why wouldn't they do that?
Why wouldn't they do that?
Because they can't.
What?
You can make it snow.
Making it snow is easy.
Make it snow in Africa, then.
Well, within reason, you can make it snow.
Okay?
Okay.
Although, it doesn't make any sense.
In fact, I think quite the opposite.
I think what we're seeing here is the Obama administration actually pushing back on all of the mayors.
That's why the mayor of Oakland had to come out and apologize.
Because Obama, or I guess Valerie Jarrett, let's just call her President Valerie, She said, this is a really good theme.
This is a really good idea.
We need to connect with the people on the street.
Barack, Barack, here, do this for your weekly YouTube address, Barack.
Say this.
Say this.
A new economic report confirmed what most Americans already believe to be true.
Over the past three decades, the middle class has lost ground, while the wealthiest few have become even wealthier.
In fact, the average income for the top 1% of Americans has risen almost 7 times faster than the income of the average middle class family.
There you go.
Taking the 1% meme and using it.
That's pretty blatant.
The president is just going to keep harping on this.
It's going to have its effect and you're going to end up with more taxes.
But the joke is, of course, there will be more taxes for everybody.
So, I've been following what the President has been doing, because there's a lot of dissent everywhere now, and it's just kind of fun to watch the, you know, it's kind of like flailing arms in the river there.
And this we can't wait thing, you know, this is a little bit out of control.
What's the rush?
Well, he's King Obama now, and he keeps saying the same thing over and over again.
Well, if Congress can't do it, I'm going to do it!
We can't wait!
We can't wait!
Somehow, though, they found time this week to debate things like whether or not we should mint coins to celebrate the Baseball Hall of Fame.
Hey, hey, hey!
That's my gig, Obama!
Stop watching C-SPAN! I was all ready to harp about that.
And he takes that from us.
When would he take that from us?
Why would we even bring it up?
Who cares?
There's always somebody arguing about what kind of coin we should make.
Well, he tied it into this.
And meanwhile, they're only scheduled to work three more weeks between now and the end of the year.
The truth is, we can no longer wait.
We can no longer wait.
We just can't wait.
Have you looked at that jobs bill?
It's 165 pages of everything except...
This is typical.
It's called the jobs bill.
I don't see the jobs part of it.
Well, no, there's only...
New FCC regulations, new slum housing rules.
High-speed rail.
People should go get this thing and read it and tell me where the jobs...
Or just go back to...
Just call it the jobs bill.
It's bull crap.
Maybe three, four, five, maybe six episodes ago, we dissected the entire thing.
And you're right, it's filled with bennies for the banks to buy foreclosed homes really cheap and rent them out.
It's filled with high-speed rail crap.
The only thing that's a jobs bill, which is...
And to his credit...
He's saying, you know, pass this bill and then we'll get people back to work.
Yeah, government people.
Because essentially it's like, let's pay the teachers, let's pay the firefighters.
But that's government money, so it's not really creating anything other than, you know, like Obama jobs.
And by the way, even though I haven't been able to find it in there, I know there's got to be.
There's a huge problem going on nobody wants to talk about.
These banks have foreclosed and own all these houses, right?
They're not paying taxes.
Where's the property taxes being paid on these houses?
The banks are paying IOUs.
They're saying, oh, we shouldn't have to pay the property taxes.
There's a huge property tax liability that the banks own, and they're going to try to slip it to the buyers or whoever they dump these properties on.
But the fact of the matter is they're in arrears on many of these properties.
And I think people should start going down to City Hall or the county offices or wherever it is and find these and insist that there be tax sales like they do with any other property.
If I own back to back taxes on my property after about two or three years, they get sick of it and they put the property up for auction.
This is already getting to the point where these properties should be auctioned for pennies on the dollar if these banks won't pay their taxes.
I didn't realize that.
Do they not have to or they're just not doing it?
They're not doing it.
Of course they have to.
Property tax is property tax.
You own property, you have to pay taxes on it.
Huh.
Well, that's not right.
Oh, of course that's another scam.
Wait a minute.
We're getting screwed.
That's not right.
Hmm.
When I see these banks start loaning money again, jack up the property tax rates and make them pay or put the properties on the auction block.
That'll loosen up some purse strings.
But nobody's doing that, are they?
No.
John, you sound a little angry about all this.
That's ridiculous.
I have to pay property taxes.
The bank takes over a house down the street.
Why aren't they paying property taxes?
We'll pay later.
It's because they're, I don't know, because they're donors.
You're a boner, they're donors.
They donate to the president and they get to do what they want to do.
Remember that douchebag Russell Simmons?
Yeah.
And he was one of the first people to come out and sit with the Occupy Wall Street people and he's like talking all those attacks.
He came out?
Yeah.
Do you know that he is actually a bankster?
Wouldn't surprise me, but no.
He has something called the Rush Card, which is one of these completely, it's almost like the Kardashian card, which never made it to market.
He has one of these debit cards, prepaid debit cards.
Which, let's see, you pay $9.95 a month, has a one-time activation fee of $3.95.
It could be up to $14.95 depending on which kind of card you choose.
A $2.50 ATM withdrawal fee after you use your two, count them, two free withdrawals per month.
And then it has all kinds of penalties.
Because, of course, you can't really overdraft a debit card.
But if you do it, so if you've got like $20 in your account and you try to charge $30, then you get a $25 penalty fee.
This guy is just one of the douchebags.
And Fortune magazine a while ago actually confronted him.
Before all of this started, before he sat down and was chanting at Occupy Wall Street, they confronted him about it.
You were talking about your financial services company and the prepaid debit card.
What's another word for financial services company?
Isn't that like bank?
Yes.
About how you react to some of the criticism that the card has received over fees.
Well, first they're uneducated.
They're uneducated.
People who criticize the cards.
They're just dumb.
And they're wrong.
They're wrong.
He sounds like Mike Tyson.
Yeah, it's fees.
Yeah, he has a Mike Tyson sound.
J.P. Morgan's report.
Oh, because we all read J.P. Morgan's report.
Says that to run my account, a Unirush account.
Unirush?
Unirush.
Cost about $200 a year.
Oh, really?
And to run a free bank account, it cost about $400.
How does a free bank account cost you $400?
I have no idea.
Look at the JP Morgan report.
This only costs $200 a year with Unirush.
A year.
It's easy for the bigger companies to want to dump on us, but they're migrating from the banks to our business.
Oh yeah, our business.
It's very inexpensive.
It builds credit.
You can transfer your money card to card.
By the way, it doesn't build credit.
A prepaid debit card does not build credit.
That is an outright lie.
Go to Western Union and spend a fortune.
You don't have to get online and check cash in place.
At first, it was for underserved communities.
60 million people who absolutely...
Then we saw the business and we said, hey, let's screw the undeserved people.
Let's go make some money.
Saved a fortune by having a rush card.
But as technology evolved and the prices went down, then we find ourselves way cheaper than the banks.
We don't have a brick and mortar.
We have technology.
We got technology.
We got technology.
So the guy's just a shill.
He's a douchebag shill.
And he should be called out.
I bet she's not going to go down to Occupy Wall Street anymore.
I would suggest that 90% of the audience doesn't even know who he is.
Russell Simmons?
Of course our audience knows who he is.
I'm skeptical.
Oh, please.
You've been in the music business all the time and you think everyone knows who Russell Simmons is.
Oh, come on!
Everyone, GX2 in the chat room is like, who is this guy?
Alright, Russell Simmons was a huge impresario.
He's like huge in the music business.
Alright, my daughter knows who he is.
He's also a tastemaker.
He's basically the one who's promoted the, you know, showing your underwear, low-riding pants, that baseball cap that's on sideways, all that stuff's from him.
I mean, people have heard of Def Jam, haven't they?
I mean, people know it.
Yeah, they've heard of Def Jam, so?
So he's Russell Simmons, the guy who started Def Jam.
Nobody pays attention to that part of it.
Speaking of which, the new book, I Want My MTV, The Unedited History of Music Television, is coming out tomorrow, I think.
And I got a copy.
And I was interviewed for the book.
And the No Agenda podcast is mentioned in the book.
Good.
Yeah.
So we should see a whopping $50 donation coming from that.
If that.
It was a fun read, though.
It was pretty good.
What's the best dirt in there?
Well, it's all good dirt.
The way they did it is, I haven't really ever seen this.
Essentially, they interviewed a lot of people.
I know they interviewed me for like five hours and recorded it all on tape.
And they transcribed it and they just put all these quotes one after another for 600 pages about different topics.
And it was pretty interesting.
It's a long read.
But they had my quotes right, so I presume they did everyone else's quotes right.
As it turns out, what I suspected, I now know for sure, that I was fired from Headbangers Ball thanks to Axl Rose and Doug Herzog.
Axl Rose got me fired.
Why?
Because his heroin buddy was Ricky Rackman.
Of course, Ricky Rackman has no talent.
They were watching me on Headbangers Ball and Axl says, Hey man, wouldn't you want to be a VJ? And he said, no, don't worry, I'll make a call.
And of course, Axl Rose calls MTV, they're all blowing him.
And like 24 hours later, I was off the show.
Hold on.
That's deplorable!
That's totally deplorable.
I fought to get Guns N' Roses played on the channel.
No one wanted to play it.
And that's my thanks.
So you...
Wait a minute.
Yeah, it's true.
You got them to play Guns N' Roses, made them so successful, at least on the channel, that they could call up and have you fired.
Yes.
That's pretty ironic.
Well, there's a difference between Guns N' Roses and Axl Rose.
Axl Rose is a maniac.
I don't think the guys in the band actually like him.
But yeah, MTV would not touch Guns N' Roses.
They're like, we can't play this.
He's got a video where he's getting electrocuted in an electric chair.
And I'm like, yeah, play.
And then they started playing him and then he got me fired.
Serves you right.
And look at where I am now.
We're doing a big for money podcast.
I got no traction this week.
No.
Oh my goodness.
What happened?
We fell into a hole.
Did our show suck so bad last week?
It must have because we have one.
We might as well get to that point and mention our one lone executive producer.
Holy moly, yeah.
Who's not even an American.
We have a huge American audience.
Not one...
Person in the United States, or Canada for that matter, or the UK, where they speak some English.
Some version of it.
To help us.
But we do have Dick Modrow of June Dallup, Western Australia, who came in with $233.11.
I might as well read his note.
Yeah, please do.
He'll be the executive producer for today's show.
Everyone else gets nothing.
Greetings once more from the land of Oz.
I suspect John had trouble reading my previous note due to my considerable lack of punctuation, a sore point of many of my teachers in the past.
So I find myself donating once more sooner than I thought as the meme propagating...
By the way, it's M-E-M-E for people who want to know how to spell that.
Yes, yes.
Propagating through the internet about my adultery is growing and I'm concerned the Secret Service will soon be on me.
Wait a minute.
This is the guy...
Well, he wrote a weird note and I said, well, so he's an adulterer and now he's trying to, I guess, recarmelize himself to get off of that.
That is bad mojo.
I apologize.
Could I... Please have a de-douche to clean my philandering.
And he wants some karma as well, right?
Should we do a double shot here?
You've been de-douched.
You've got karma.
I think I blew out everyone.
It also allows me to live a purer, more transparent lifestyle.
Just to explain my adultery, it is my wife that became suspicious first.
As every three to four nights, someone sends me a message on my iPhone, usually at midnight Australian time.
A loud in-the-morning greeting.
Adam's bat signal on his NA iPhone app.
It was easily explained to her, and I thought it was good for a laugh, but turned to a full-blown adultery by Adam.
I'm so sorry.
Oh, well, he was unclear.
I didn't understand what was going on.
Well, he's a little more clear this time.
In other words...
Well, you know what?
He's happily married.
You should be happy because of my horrible faux pas.
At least we got some money.
Yeah.
Which is part of our model.
It's part of our model.
For Halloween.
Hey, we insult our listeners so they donate again.
Maybe it isn't.
Let me get a list of all the other adulterers who listen to the show.
Just call them out.
Hey, you're an adulterer, man.
Bastard.
Donate to make...
Who even uses that word?
Well, only adulterers would know, I guess.
A man is an adulterer.
So Clinton would be one.
Yes.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Well, Hillary's an adulteress as well.
I mean, we don't know it for a fact, but we can kind of guess.
Well, that's what everyone says.
Could be wrong.
Maybe she could be chased.
Well, we do appreciate your support once again, Dirk.
Thank you so much.
And, of course, you will receive the title of executive producer.
For those who don't know, an executive producer title on The No Agenda Show is just as valid as one on...
Hawaii Five-0 or Special Victims Unit CSI. I mean, it's all the same because what you do is you get to support the episode and you get a credit for that.
The only difference between us and Hollywood is, unlike the phonies in Hollywood, we'll vouch for that credit if you call us about it.
And also, unlike Hollywood, you don't get to bang any chicks because we don't have any.
Because that's kind of the...
Well, it's true, isn't it?
I mean, when you're an executive producer in Hollywood, you get to help cast and all that stuff.
You get to do all the cool stuff.
A lot of these guys are just money guys.
I mean, they don't get that opportunity.
I think there's a lure...
Ooh, look what you might be able to do here.
And they bring in the starlets.
And, you know, I don't think every executive producer that works on Law& Order and there's like dozens and dozens of them are screwing the help.
I have spoken like a man who has not lived in Hollywood.
Dude, after two years.
I agree, but it just doesn't make sense to me that there would be that much action.
I think it would be more photos.
You have no idea.
Everyone's got these phones now.
You'd think you'd have a shot of a deep wolf with some girl.
Yeah, it's out there.
It's out there.
It's a bang fest in Hollywood and you're moving to Austin, Texas.
Hell yeah!
I can't get nothing here.
I've got to get me some Texas girls and boys being bi-curious.
You know, I read an interesting theory about Hawaii Five-0, which of course is a horrific show.
I mean, it's horrible.
You were all over it in the beginning, and it's still on.
Yeah, it's astonishing.
Well, the theory was that because all of Hawaii...
All of the elites there and government, this is just not my theory, but I read it and I really liked it, because they've all participated in the cover-up of Barack Obama's birth, his non-birth in Hawaii, that this was payback by not only putting Hawaii Five-0 on the air and making them look so awesome, but by keeping it on the air where it doesn't deserve to be on the air at all.
And I thought it was a pretty good theory.
I kind of liked it.
Like, well, it could be.
Right?
Yeah.
Hey, we have a couple of PR initiatives.
People always check in.
By the way, I want to mention to people that they help.
We need some more help than we got this week.
And I would appreciate the people, especially with the truckers driving 24-7 and listening to our show all the time.
Dvorak.org slash NA. Please go and continue...
Or bring up the numbers a little bit.
Geez.
Well, also, something we didn't mention, and I'm hoping that people are just saving up, Friday in a week is 11-11-11.
Tomorrow...
Yeah, and Tuesday is 11-1-11, which is 1-1-1-1-1.
Right.
So we have a number of 11-11-11 campaigns at Dvorak.org slash NA where you can help support the show.
What we have noticed in the past is that the numerology is interesting.
People like it.
And there is a belief that karma comes to you from surrounding yourself with these numbers.
I'm not saying that.
That's not a selling point.
In fact, it's quite a weak one.
But we'd appreciate it if you consider that to help us out.
Let me program your mind for a second.
Certainly those of your kids who are listening, because I know they're singing it all day.
Also, there's some evidence, I don't want to bring this up again and again, and this will be the last time I bring it up, about this error in judgment we made by giving the USC football team karma so they could beat Notre Dame.
That karma continued to last, and they were beating the...
No!
It continued to last.
And they were at the point of beating Stanford and then the karma ran out.
It looks like it lasts about a week.
Oh really?
Is that it?
And about three hours because they were winning the game and all of a sudden the tide turned and the karma disappeared and they fumbled their way to a loss.
And I'm thinking, well that's interesting.
So the karma has a short term duration.
Okay, so a week and three hours.
Something like that, yeah.
Alright, well good.
That's good intel, John.
Thanks.
The PR initiatives today are, in some cases, domain names that are forwarding to noagendashow.com.
We have newamericanspring.com forwarding to the show.
Another drone domain, stonesdrones.com.
Here's one, americatheenslaved.com.
These aren't really all that easy...
To remember, but the whole idea is you have a domain name, and when you're talking to someone and you want to remind them, like you say, noagendershow.com.
Most people forget that, but if you say something like, yougotkarma.com, which is now also for the show.
Yeah, or one, two, three, you suck.
That would be a good one.
Or, here's one for you, John, whoreprestitute.com.
At least I think that's registered because of your outburst.
What did I say?
Oh, I called somebody a whore.
Yes, a whore prestitute.
A whore.
A whore.
Hey, we have something really cool, though, and I want to thank our producer, Alex, who went through a lot of trouble to create a No Agenda Roku channel, and he didn't just create, because you can create a channel that you can point people to on a website, and there's a code and all that, but now we're actually in the channel store under News and Special Interests.
It's actually quite cool.
The minute you and I started tweeting about it, I think it got like 40 immediately.
Now it's up to 100 installs.
So it has all the back catalog, all of the episodes with the art, and also the live stream.
So you can just flip on the live stream on your television on your Roku, which is great.
I think it's beautiful.
And I guess it's a free channel.
I would hope.
Yeah.
So that's very cool.
Thank you very much, Alex.
And then I just wanted to mention yesterday I sent out a bat signal to all no-agenda sysadmins, but specifically open-source developers.
I'd like to get a Linux port.
Of the current system that I'm using for all of our infrastructure.
And I wrote a blog post about it.
So go to curry.com and read about that and help out if you can.
That'd be great.
I think we could probably...
We have so many awesome people, we could probably get this done in a week.
So, that'd be cool.
Everyone else, if you're just sitting around pulling your pud, there's something you can do.
You could, for instance, go out and propagate our formula.
Our formula is this.
We go out.
We hit people in the mouth.
New.
World.
Order.
We are all a member.
Say it now.
Shut up, slave.
All right.
So that was disappointing.
Yeah.
But I have, for our donation segment, I've got a great clip which will help remind people why they need to support our show.
So remind me to remind them.
I'll remind you.
Hold on, let me write it down.
Remind Adam.
Yes.
For something.
Hey, um...
Remind me to look in the book to find that reminder.
Okay, I'll try it.
Also, you might want to take into consideration that there's new legislation that is coming down the pipeline, and it's not really being widely reported on, although there is some major propaganda going on to program people into thinking that's a great idea to limit the Internet.
This, of course, is the Protect IP Act, and what is the other one?
The E... The E-screw them.
I like all these things to give themselves away by the name.
In other words, you're not protecting anything.
No.
But the whole idea is, if the government doesn't like what you're doing, for instance, if I sing a song, and by the way, John, you always wonder why on the pre-stream I sing along to the Ride of the Valkyries and I sing Cinco de Mayo, that is so that we can't get pulled off.
The internet, because these days if you actually sing a song and upload it to YouTube, you can get...
The Valkyrie song is a public domain.
You can do whatever you want with it.
Probably that version, of course, is copyrighted.
Well, performance copyright.
Performance, sure.
So I guess the idea is, if the government doesn't like what you do, and they can say, well, hey, they're playing Valkyries, take them off.
Yeah, take them off.
These guys are annoying us.
But the way they'll do it is, they'll control DNS, they'll control routing, actual routing, and they can force all ISPs to block you.
This is getting a little bit out of control.
And they have now...
Oh, poor Beeb.
They have co-opted the Beeb to help propagate this meme.
But in a backwards way, which is really, really, really disgusting.
Listen to these prostitutes.
This is on Fox.
And by the way, there's three of the hot chicks.
Everyone has a view show now.
Oh yeah.
So they've got, and then they have like two...
They're called the Five.
Is that always the Five?
Right.
And they usually take one of the two girls that are on the Five, they rotate through a bunch of them.
Right.
And they try to get Guilfoyle, who's one of the rare brunettes on Fox, who has some of the best legs on Netflix.
Oh man, oh man.
So they put her on the end.
Yeah, so you can see the legs.
Facing sideways with her legs just lit up.
They got a special light beamed on those legs, and then she's using clouds in one of them.
Yeah, her legs are lit.
Her legs are lit up, and that's the show.
Thank you very much, ladies and gentlemen.
We'll be back again tomorrow.
So you have to be very careful because the way this works is you're looking at the legs, which are lit up, and while you're looking at the legs, of course, you're thinking...
No!
That's one mother I'd like to...
Stop it!
And your mind, of course, is wide open, and that's when the information is put in.
So they misuse the Beeb, and it's very clever the way they've done this.
Listen to this misuse of the Beeb first.
Well, just listen, and we can discuss.
I promise, teen sensation Justin Bieber lashing out at Minnesota Senator Amy Klobuchar.
He says that she should be...
Now, this is the woman who has introduced this legislation.
He locked up and put away in cuffs for her bill to toughen copyright infringement laws.
Now, we know that Bieber said no such thing.
Justin Bieber, great kid and everything, but you know that this kid is not...
He didn't say that, and that's why they don't have videotape of him saying...
Yeah, he's not political.
I think she should be...
What's her name?
She should be locked up and thrown into...
He didn't say that at all.
They're misusing...
We know that.
We know that.
Yeah, right.
We know that.
So listen how they misuse this.
So now...
I'm looking at her legs.
I'm like...
Now I'm like...
Bieber?
It's passed.
The law could punish anyone who sings a popular song and then uploads it to YouTube.
So we will begin with Kimberly Guilfoyle, who I understand is a big Bieber fan.
fan yes president of the local iheartbieber.com apparently i'll be thrown in jail when i lip sync in my room you know to justin bieber no but So first they make it sound like it's ridiculous, but then...
He's saying this is ridiculous.
They're taking it too far.
That's what creative musicians, young people starting out like Justin Bieber, were singing songs, uploaded on YouTube.
He was discovered by Usher.
Wow, I do know a lot about him.
Now, this is really well written, John.
Really well done.
First, I'm saying this is ridiculous.
This is how young people learn.
How you build on prior art.
Which, of course, is true.
Now, let's look at the legend.
You're listening to Guilfoyle, by the way.
You always have to remember you're listening to a very slick district attorney.
Hot, hot!
Now, so you're like, huh?
He was able to try and get discovered that way.
So he's saying it's preposterous the extent to which she's trying to toughen these laws.
I think Bieber, I don't think his brain is yet formed.
Ah, now discredit the Bieber.
The young little boy.
You are going to get hate mail.
You're going to get comments on Twitter for that.
But if he had any common sense and he actually looked at what this bill is, it's protecting the artist.
Oh!
It's protecting the artist.
If he had any sense, if his brain was fully grown, he would know.
Because, you know, you think in this, look at the legs, you're dumb.
There's so much counterfeit and violation of their property.
Counterfeit!
He must be getting gypped by illegal downloads.
Gypped!
People are stealing his insurance and he's not getting paid for it.
If he were smart, he'd support a lot of these anti-piracy pills.
Absolutely.
I agree with Andrea.
And also, I have a question.
Where is Justin Bieber's mother?
If anybody should be taken away and handcuffed, it should be Justin Bieber.
I mean, how...
Oh, my God.
In a span of a minute and a half, we go from...
We go from bad to worse.
We go from...
So all of a sudden it's like, of course, no, not of course.
Look at the legs.
No, you're so wrong.
Your brain is out of control.
You need Ritalin, boy.
And then her mom should be thrown in.
His mom should be thrown in jail.
I mean, wow.
Wow.
That is a fine piece of propaganda if I ever heard it, which of course is teaching the slaves.
Yeah, that was good.
I'll give you points for that one.
That was very good.
They did a great job of turning this thing just into a...
Propaganda piece for the big corporations, News Corp being one of them, it owns Fox, that for, you know, protecting copyright.
By the way, we should mention the people out there, and I'm, if anybody, as a content creator, I'm one of them, and our show is one of them.
The fact of the matter is we've made the show a good source.
Easy does it on the fact of the matter.
You know, I caught myself on the Leo show saying it, but I caught it.
Yeah, sorry.
I was buzzing at home.
Anyway, the point is that we create a lot of copyrighted written material, but when you're working for a lot of these companies, these big publishers, they make you sign your copyright away.
Immediately.
This doesn't protect the artist.
The artists even get work 90% of the time, and I'm talking about a lot of writers and most of these magazines.
I've never done this, by the way.
They have to sign away the rights to their own material.
This is one of those situations where John Fogarty had to pay royalties on his own songs due to the fact that the Fantasy Records had his copyrights under lock and key.
And this doesn't protect any art.
Where's the artist being protected here?
When people bring up this, oh, the artists are being protected, I've yet to see that.
It's interesting in this I Want My MTV book, the one thing that was astonishing even to me is the amount of brokenness of the superstars of the day.
Do you know that Duran Duran is broke?
It would surprise me that any of these guys are broke.
There's only a few smart money performers out there that have locked down their rights and managed to do well.
But I always really thought that Duran Duran had it together.
Simon LeBron seemed like they all had it together.
It's like John Taylor's living in a one-bedroom in Santa Monica.
These guys broke and you think they made any money for somebody?
Wow.
Oh yeah.
All these guys.
I think if these guys were sincere about all this copyright bull crap, they would pass legislation saying that an artist has to own his own copyright for the rest of his life.
Make it so you can't sign off your copy.
You can't give them away.
You can't sell them.
You own them.
And of course, I can see where, well, it's a restrained trade because someone has a bunch of copyrighted material they want to sell because they're only going to make money.
Well, wait a minute.
Wait a minute.
We let everyone do whatever they want with our stuff.
Yeah.
Well, and you can see, but I will say this.
We make one-third as much money as anyone doing a similar show that uses advertising.
So we're actually, the system discourages what we do.
We are discouraged from this donation model.
Just by the numbers.
I mean, I can assure you that we'd be making three times as much money if we had advertisers and did the old-fashioned thing and bored people stiff with a bunch of bogus ads right in the middle of the show.
Well, I'd have more money.
It's up to the listeners to deal with this.
So anyway, no, this was terrible.
It's shameful.
And Fox is one of the worst networks for pulling this crap.
Guilfoyle, when she was on...
Oh, Riley once, and she's sitting there, and he's asking about, this was in the early days of the total nude body scanners, and she, oh, I don't see what the problem is.
I don't mind if they have pictures of me naked.
Yeah, me neither.
Yeah, that's how it works.
Yeah, that's you.
Yeah, perfect.
So do I get a clip of the day for that one?
Unless you beat it.
Yeah, I'll give you a clip of the day.
Clip of the day.
By the way, that's a violation in copyright, too.
Is it?
Yeah, it's King of the Road.
Oh, King of the Road.
Clip of the Day.
Oh, we could be off the air any minute now.
It's coming because, you know, Justin Bieber tried to protect me, but oh no!
The Biebs' brain is broken.
He's an idiot.
Yeah.
And his mom should be in jail.
And his mom should be in jail.
His mom should be in jail and he should be scolded.
I wonder if there's some...
Spanked by Guilfoyle.
Ooh, there's a title.
I wonder if there's some subliminal message to her saying his brain isn't fully grown yet.
Is that a metaphor for penis, do you think?
Is there something in there?
I wasn't thinking along those lines, but I figured you would be.
I don't know, maybe.
There might be a subtlety in there.
All right.
You know, the funny thing was about Guilfoyle wanting to have her picture naked.
Really, this last week, there was a great congressional hearing with Napolitano, Janet.
Oh, I know!
It was beautiful!
It was beautiful!
I'm so happy you clipped that, because I was on C-SPAN 3.
The one clip I didn't take, which I will bring up, and I'm really disappointed that the congressmen didn't jump on this, because they were really concentrating on the Fast and Furious scandal.
Yeah, that's where I was.
I got Fast and Furious clips.
They're not really making much traction, but at least they're trying.
But there was a moment where some guy came in and berated her for their racial profiling of Sikhs, which are an Indian religion that wears these big turbans.
The turbans, yeah, the turbans.
And the reason that inside the turban is their hair.
And their weapons of mass destruction.
Well, the hair's never cut, and it's really long, and so they have to take the turban off, which is a pain in the ass, and they have, you know, hairs down to the floor.
And it smells.
I bet it smells.
And it probably could be other, yeah.
Whatever the case, and they said when she went into this excuse-making, well, we had to take the seeks and take them aside and then take them to special rooms and all this other stuff.
Why didn't somebody say, wait a minute, you've got those great X-ray machines.
Body scanners, yeah.
They're supposed to find weapons and guns and whatever because she was concerned about the turban.
Why doesn't it work on a turban?
Huh?
I don't know.
Maybe they just want to humiliate the Sikhs.
Maybe the thing doesn't work at all, like was brought out in one of the other congressional hearings, because everyone knows that the thing is a fraud.
That was Micah, by the way, I think.
There's no clippage of it, but it appears that he's going to get that memo, the one that he wasn't allowed to talk about, that shows that there's such a huge failure rate of the naked body scanners, and they're trying to keep that quiet, because that was what you pulled out.
Apparently he's getting that report public somehow.
I'll believe it when I see it, but he's working on it.
So which clip do you want to play of our Lucy Napolitano, the big sister of Homeland Security?
Well, I have a long, long clip from Chavitz, who is that, I think, a very entertaining congressman.
But I want to save that for the end of the show.
Oh, wow, that is a long clip, yeah.
It's too long.
Yeah, yeah.
But it's very entertaining.
Now, there's a couple of...
There's a lot of new information that came out during these hearings.
And let's go...
Let me go over one of the situations that occurred with this Texas Congressman Gohmert, who is the guy who came before Congress.
And he was the guy, if you remember, maybe a year or so ago, who called it the Crap and Trade Bill, that guy?
Yeah, I remember that, yeah.
Well, he's a character.
So he came up and...
And started talking about the idea that there's some guy on the Homeland Security Advisory Council who's a member of the Muslim Brotherhood, huge fan of the Iranian Zayatollah Khomeini.
What?
Yeah, and then he tapped into, because everyone on this committee gets a secret clearance, so he goes into this state and local intelligence community database and starts pulling shit out and bringing them to the media saying, look at this, this Rick Perry guy is like, he's a...
Islamophobic.
And so Gohmert's trying to get Napolitano to say something about it.
He brings this up, and then they go through a bunch of testimony.
And then somebody late in the testimony asks her about, is she going to do what Gohmert asked her to do, which is get some information from him.
And she says, I don't know.
I don't remember what he said.
He didn't give a crap.
And so one of the guys has to turn over his questioning back to Gohmert.
To re-ask her, and this is the...
I think this will be the right clip.
Let me see.
I think it's Gohmert jumps Napolitano 2, I believe.
Let's see if that's it.
Time of the gentlelady is expired.
Mr.
King?
Mr.
Chairman, I'd like to yield to the gentleman from Texas, Mr.
Gohmert.
Thank you, Mr.
Thank you.
That's my homeboy from Texas.
Secretary, since you seemed a little fuzzy about...
El-R-B-R-E. Let me make sure you leave here understanding.
What is this L-R-B-E? What did he say?
El-B-R-E is this guy.
Oh, El-B-R-E. Okay.
It was apparently a Muslim Brotherhood guy who's on the Homeland Security Advisory Committee.
Perfect.
And she doesn't remember anything Gohmert says, so now he's saying, look.
Let me remind you, Lucy.
Remember when you pulled the football?
He was a featured speaker at the tribute to the great Islamic visionary Ayatollah Khomeini on December 11, 2004.
You had him on your Countering Violent Extremism Working Group.
You promoted him from your own website.
Secretary Napolitano swears in Homeland Security Advising Council members.
You swore him in, and according to your testimony here today, that's where he got the security clearance.
He has written glowingly, He doesn't sound like a good guy, John, to have on our advisory committee, does he?
No, it doesn't seem so.
He has still remained in this Homeland Security Advisory Council, and now he has accessed a week ago the state and local intelligence community database, He took documents that said for official use only and shopped them with national media.
It appears not only is our security being compromised, a secure system, but he's using it to help his friend politically, the president.
I've got one question.
And it's not a gotcha question.
There's nothing confusing about it.
Before you came in here today, were you given information about Elibiari using the state and local intelligence community database and taking information he downloaded and shopping it to the media?
No.
If anyone from Homeland Security, your staff, advised anyone else that you were briefed last night, they would be wrong.
Is that correct?
Yes.
Thank you.
Thank you, Mr.
King.
Okay, now, when he's obviously had somebody must have told him.
Oh, yeah, he knows.
He knows.
That last question.
And she was looking up, parsing his question so she could go into denial and have a reason to be in denial.
I think somebody obviously did brief her, and then they told him because she either said, you know, get out of here or whatever.
This is very interesting, John.
Something is going on because Hillary Clinton, Lucifer, was also hijacked in a very similar manner.
Did you see that?
No.
Can I interject your Neapolitan?
Okay, so Hillary is in front of Congress for an unrelated matter.
Yes, go.
Then we have Congressman Mack, Republican, of course, and he traps her in such an awesome, awesome way.
And she is pissed off about it.
And by the way, she's sitting there.
She's looking ragged.
She didn't want to be there.
Well, listen to how he starts it off.
He asks a really easy question.
She answers with the party line, and then he traps her.
I'm going to switch gears a little bit as well.
As you know, I serve as the chair of the Western Hemisphere Subcommittee, so there's a lot to talk about.
But I wanted to talk a little bit about Fast and Furious.
And you can see you're now like, what?
How come nobody briefed me on this?
And specifically, at what point did the State Department learn of Operation Fast and Furious?
Now, of course, she has a stock answer for this, which is the same as the Attorney General.
Congressman, I don't know the exact time.
I can tell you that based on our information from the part of the State Department that would deal with this kind of issue, we have no record of any request for coordination.
We have no record of any kind of notice or heads up.
Heads up.
It's an official term.
A heads up.
Heads up.
My recollection is that I learned about it from the press.
That's my recollection.
Oh, okay.
I was reading the newspaper.
I don't have any intelligence in the State Department.
I was just reading the paper.
So this is where she slips.
He comes in with the setup.
It's a beauty.
So I think then I know the answer to this question, but I'll ask it anyways.
Did the State Department issue the Justice Department a license or a written waiver In order to allow for the transfer of thousands of weapons across the U.S.-Mexico border.
So, beautiful tactic.
He gets her on the defensive like he's attacking her.
He asks a question.
This is great, by the way.
Ask the question, which she is now, she's in a mindset of being attacked, so I have to say, no, I know nothing about this.
I don't know anything about this.
Congressman, you know, this is the first time I've been asked this, and I can tell you that based on the record of any activity by the Bureau that would have been responsible, we see no evidence, but let me do a thorough request to make sure that what I'm telling you reflects everything we know.
By the way, let me remind you, Hillary Rodham Lucifer Clinton is a lawyer.
That's why she's speaking like this.
So he got her in her lawyer mode.
She responds like a lawyer.
Now he does a beautiful thing, throws in a little joke to put her off.
This guy is brilliant.
Thank you.
That would be greatly appreciated.
And I wrote a letter to you yesterday.
I'm sure you got it and you've read it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I thought it was for my birthday.
Yeah, well, happy birthday.
Happy birthday.
Okay, beautiful!
Now, Naylor!
Under the Arms Export Control Act, the Justice Department was required to receive a written waiver from the State Department to account for their...
Intent to cause arms to be exported to drug cartels in Mexico.
If no such waiver was received, Justice Department officials have violated the law.
And you would agree with that, correct?
I cannot offer an opinion.
I don't know.
No one told me he was going to do this!
Damn it!
First time I'm being asked.
I've no...
I'm not asking.
First time I'm being asked because she's used to this all being theater.
That's why she said...
Hey, hey, no one told me this question was coming.
In the pre-interview?
If there was such a written...
But if they hadn't asked and hadn't received by law, the Justice Department would be violating U.S. law.
I cannot...
I don't offer you any opinion on that.
I don't have the information or any analysis.
I can only tell you the facts as we know them in the State Department.
Okay, well, I will submit then and say that if the law says that they have to get a written, if the State Department is required to give a written waiver for the cause of arms to be exported to drug cartels in Mexico, and if they didn't do that and that didn't happen, then they are in violation of the law.
So, I believe the Obama administration is under complete attack from all sides.
They're attacking every single bit of it, and Hillary just threw the Attorney General under the bus.
She said, no, of course not.
We don't have any of that.
And then he says, well, do you know that that's basically breaking the law?
You can't export weapons under any circumstances?
He set her up beautifully.
First, he got her to admit that she didn't know anything.
Yeah.
before the process even began, before Fast and Furious was even executed from day one, you'd have to have this document.
And if you didn't know anything, then obviously there was no document, so they're in violation of the law.
It's fantastic.
So the tell is, of course, that she says, this is the first time I'm being asked this question – That's the tell that shows you that normally all of this C-SPAN stuff is theater.
We know that because we enjoy watching it, so it's our version of entertainment.
That it's theater, and she got nailed.
So I think that there's people inside the administration who are now leaking out stuff.
They're helping the attackers, and it's over.
And she just really screwed it up.
And this is not her.
And heads are rolling as we speak.
There's people with ball gags in their mouth being whipped.
You know, she's like in her leather outfit, clippity-clop, with her big clogs on.
Tell me, slave, who did it?
Let me play one of these Texas congressmen berating.
This is a short clip.
These guys are so irked by these people.
Listen to the Texas congressman berates Napolitano.
Based on your experience, do you think 34% is a high number of foreign nationals in anybody's jail?
Well, I mean, either you do or you don't.
Listen.
I am listening.
You listen.
Answer the question.
You're a lawyer.
You know to answer the question and not just ramble so that the time expires.
Counselor!
She's a lawyer, too?
I didn't realize Janet was a lawyer.
Yeah, she was.
They're all lawyers.
I was always waiting for one of these guys because people were saying, look, look, listen, listen.
And so he didn't put up with it.
I thought that was great.
No, you listen.
This is so entertaining.
I just love this.
This is so awesome.
Let's go back to some of these things.
Let's go to the Title III Napolitano cross-examination.
Oh, okay.
Let's see where that leads.
Wait a minute.
Don't tell me, but wait, there's more?
Oh, my goodness.
...zone from using the same investigatory and prosecutorial tools that we use in every other district.
Not that I know of.
So there's no reason that this, quote, gun trafficking case could not have been handled like it is handled in all the other states?
I'm not commenting to this one.
I'm not second guessing Fast and Furious that's under investigation now.
Everyone else has second guessed it.
The Attorney General has said there were problems.
The President has said there were problems.
So I'm not asking you to say anything they haven't already said.
Do you agree there were problems with Fast and Furious?
I thought you were asking a much more specific question.
But what I would say is, obviously, there were problems with Fast and Furious.
What were those problems?
Well, obviously, you don't want to let guns with the kind of firepower that we now know were involved to get out of your control.
Is firepower the only reason you don't allow guns?
Well, there's a number of them, but...
But if you want to cross-examine me about...
I'm not cross-examining you, Madam Secretary.
I'm asking you about Fast and Furious.
I'm asking you when you knew about it.
What I'm explaining to you is that the case itself and the matter in which it was handled is under the jurisdiction of the Inspector General.
But obviously, from a what-we-know perspective, yeah, there were problems.
Absolutely.
When you were the United States Attorney in the District of Arizona, did you ever have Title III cases?
T3s?
Yes.
And those applications were approved by whom?
What's a T3? I have to look it up again.
He explained it.
Terminator 3?
But I thought it was interesting that he said Title III, and she then used the jargon T3, which was to make it, you know, to trivialize it.
You can look up Title III. It has something to do with movement across the border.
Yeah.
I was concerned that she kept using the word obviously.
She used it three times in that little, just in a very short period of time, meaning, which is throwing back at the questioner, well, obviously, you're an idiot for asking because it's obvious.
Right.
And so she liked to pull that off.
But the mistake she made was she said, well, with guns with this kind of firepower, we should let go across.
Oh, but the other kind you can't.
Oh, yeah.
It's like, yeah, what is okay?
You know, it's like, is a.22 okay?
Is that better?
Wait a minute.
USA Patriot Act Title III. Is this part of the Patriot Act?
Could be.
International Money Laundering Abatement and Financial Anti-Terrorism Act.
Yeah, that's what it is.
So it's just, is that like a secret word for Patriot Act?
Yeah, Title III. The Patriot Act doesn't allow this kind of activity, essentially.
By citizens, apparently the government does it.
But that goes on and on to a long Title III thing, which I thought was just a little too much to leave in there.
I like it, though.
If you want to cross-examine me, then get my...
She's very glib.
She's not as bad as Jackson.
Oh, wait.
Basically, it's nothing but disdain.
You'll have to ball-gag me, bitch, if you want to cross-examine me.
But there's a couple other things that came out in her testimony besides the Fast and Furious stuff.
There was this, the guy in the border jails, if you want to play, this is kind of interesting, the Texas border jails, apparently there's so many foreign nationals in our jails it's costing us a fortune, but the Iranians are going, I didn't know anything about this, you know the Iranians are bringing in explosives?
Nobody said that they weren't.
What?
Into the jail?
Yeah.
Yeah, Texas border jails and Iranians.
Put down at the border.
It's a very different border than it was even three or four years ago.
I agree.
It's worse.
The Iranians apparently think our border is less secure than we do.
Otherwise, they wouldn't have gone to Mexico to work with supposedly the Zetas to smuggle in explosives into the United States.
What do the Iranians know about the cross-border traffic of the Zetas or other drug cartels that we're missing?
In my opinion, the Zetas, other drug cartels, they have access to the United States, they have access back to Mexico.
So it seems like the Iranians obviously know something about the lax border than we do.
The Bureau of Prisons says that 27% of the people in the federal penitentiary, 27%, are foreign criminal aliens.
That means they are illegally in the United States when they commit a felony.
All of those 27%, a fourth of the population in the federal penitentiaries got here some way.
And they got here illegally according to the statistics of the Bureau of Prisons.
And if the border is so secure, let me give you some insight as to the Texas border, where I have been numerous times in areas that aren't exactly as safe as you claim.
The sheriffs, on any given day, we will call the sheriffs in the border jails and say, how many people are in your jail that are foreign nationals, not criminal aliens, foreign nationals?
The most recent one is, have the border counties, and the average is about 34.5% of the people in Texas border jails are from foreign countries.
This just gets crazier. here.
It gets crazier and crazier.
None of this stuff is covered by the mainstream media.
It's very interesting.
I only have one more clip I think is important, which was another item I've never heard of.
Which is the...
There's also a funny clip about insinuation where she's just giving some guy crap.
It's too long to play.
Here's the one.
Let's see.
Play this one.
This is all news to me.
Apparently, China in particular, and there's other countries, we arrest some guy for doing something terrible.
There's one story that's told here by this congresswoman that Some heinous crime, and we try to deport him, and the Chinese say, screw you, we don't want that idiot!
And they just let him go!
Back into the community.
Play this back into the community clip.
Will not accept them that you release them back into the communities?
Based on a ruling?
Yeah, there's a Supreme Court case called Zabidas, which is a due process case, which if the home country cannot accept or will not accept, It gives us about a six-month detention period.
And in fact, some of these people have come back into the communities and committed heinous crimes, truly heinous, like Wang Chen, who killed a young woman, I believe, after China had refused to Repatriatize him, is that true?
And if I remember reading this correctly, they still have not located her heart and lungs.
Oh, God.
So, I mean, and another one who killed a police...
This is better than the special victims unit.
Her heart and lungs, the zombies ate him, don't you realize?
This officer in Fort Myers.
After being released back into the community because their home country would not take them.
You know, Section 243D of the Immigration Nationality Act requires the government to sanction countries that refuse to repatriate by suspending issuance of immigrant or nonimmigrant visas or both to nationals of the country until it takes the aliens back.
I love this.
But although I'm more interested in where her heart and lungs are.
Sold the heart to someone and the lungs, I guess.
But the idea was, she goes on about how it's a specific law that if they won't take the people back, they're supposed to, we have to take action, in this case against the Chinese, and revoke everybody's visa.
Well, from China.
Well, oh my god.
And Napolitano is going, well, I don't know.
I'm not absolutely sure the way we see it.
And she just won't say anything.
It's just amazing.
So, advantage is being taken of this situation.
Coincidentally, which of course doesn't exist, with the Department of Homeland Security, that would be Janet Napolitano's department, handing out $300,000 grants to places such as Houston, Texas, to...
Create drones flying around in the air.
And I'm sure you received a link or two about this, but I have the local, now that I'm about to become a Texan, I've got the local news report, which is always better than anything else you can imagine.
And normally I only play the videotape portion of the report.
In this case, I actually have some of the banter of the newscasters because they actually are quite funny.
From a laptop computer, deputies can fly this 50-pound Shadowhawk unmanned helicopter.
A powerful camera on the front is controlled with this game-like console, and the manufacturer says this one's even designed to carry weapons.
A stun baton where you can actually engage somebody at altitude with the aircraft.
A stun baton would essentially disable a suspect.
Montgomery County Sheriff Tommy Gage says he has no plans for weapons just yet, but he does have FDA approval to fly for SWAT team standoffs and searching for criminals on the run.
To be in on the ground floor with you is pretty exciting for us here in Montgomery County.
Yeah, it's pretty exciting right here.
Oh, boys, we're going to go zap you from the air.
In 2007, Local 2 investigates uncovered a secret Houston police test of a different type of drone.
But so many people complained of police spying on them after our story went worldwide.
Mayor Parker scrapped the idea when she took office.
But Montgomery County is ready to go.
Big brother watching situation.
Certainly it's not going to be used for that.
It's going to be used if somebody's a criminal and we're looking for them.
That's what we're going to...
Use the vehicle.
I love it how the old guy catches himself saying, it's like a Big Brothers situation.
It's so simple in its design and the objectives of it.
Beautiful.
You just wonder why anyone would choose not to.
Yeah, why don't we have them everywhere?
It's fantastic.
It's beautiful.
Flights here at the Montgomery County Sheriff's Office could begin within a month, according to the sheriff.
Now, this drone that arrived here today could be outfitted with a taser to actually zap a suspect from above or fire up the...
Yeah, a taser to zap a suspect from above.
Wait, there's more.
How does that work?
A stun gun.
Or beanbags.
Beanbags.
To incapacitate a suspect.
They're throwing beanbags out of these things.
Hey, hey, hey, have a beanbag.
Woo!
Zap the suspect from the air.
What the hell is that?
It just hit me.
What is this?
This is not just a...
I mean, you have to have contacts.
Either they've got some high-tech weaponry with a laser to zap you.
Trump says it's all about keeping his officers safe in very volatile situations.
He says he will keep privacy concerns in mind.
He says it will be done right.
And here comes the kicker.
Check it out.
Let's get to the payment part.
The Montgomery County Sheriff says that $300,000 in federal Homeland Security grant money paid for its drone.
That includes training for the two deputies who will fly it on police message.
So the important things of this meme fest are the FAA has given them permission to fly.
Now, I'm going to presume they have to be below 500 feet with this thing, just for general aviation practices, which typically will not allow you to fly under 500 feet above...
500?
500 feet above ground level.
That's the...
For general aviation, in some places, well, over cities it differs, but in general, 500 feet, sometimes 1,000, that's the lowest altitude.
So these things are going to have to be below it, otherwise, you know, it's crazy.
I mean, you can't have, you know, people tooling around in their Cessna, all of a sudden this...
Well, these aren't the same as they were using in Afghanistan.
They're at 20,000 feet.
No, no, this is like a remote control.
These are as little pieces of crap.
Right.
Oh, these things are going to be brought down.
Oh, I am shooting this thing.
If I see one of these things flying over my house in Austin, I am blowing it out of the sky.
In fact, I think it's a game.
You don't even have to say pole.
You just hear this thing flying by, like...
It's going to be fun.
Now, the other part is, zapping people from the sky?
Really?
And throwing beanbags?
A beanbag drone?
It's a beanbag drone.
Are you freaking kidding me?
Now, this is nuts.
But it is based upon a $300,000 grant.
Yeah, this is a bribe.
Totally.
Here's a bunch of money for you guys.
You can chain a couple guys, keep an extra couple officers on the payroll, and buy one of these pieces of crap, whatever it is.
I mean, there's probably a brand involved.
There's some little, one of these little mini drones, the kind that can fly up to your window and peer in.
Yeah.
And, yeah, that was disgusting.
The video that you can see in the show notes.
You know, why would a Texas...
Anybody in Texas, you know, an independent-minded group of people, say, hey, that's a great idea.
Let's let the federal government run harder lives.
Well, first of all, we don't all talk like that in Texas.
But since you're doing it, I will blow that son of a bitch out of the sky, boy.
You know I will.
Of course not.
I'm from Alabama.
So anyway.
Whatever.
The good old boys will have none of that.
The good old boys will have none of that.
We're not going to have any of that.
May I please give you some props for a moment here?
Oh, thank you.
You were so spot on about Anwar al-Awlaki, about that being an extraction.
Why did he show up in L.A.? Yeah, he was at the premiere of...
No, but there's a little twist to it.
What happened here, this is a fight between the FBI and CIA. And as demonstrated in this clip, now here, this is the douchebag who used to be, what's his name, who used to be the head of the Bin Laden unit, the guy who, you know.
Oh, that guy.
That idiot who's always on Fox.
He's always on the air.
He's just, and he's a phony blowhard, and I think he's disinformation specialist.
He's the only reason he's on.
on anything.
Well, the thing I like about what he's about to say here is he essentially asserts that the droning of Anwar Al-Awlaki, and of course this leads right into his son, who was, as you correctly pointed out, was a loose end, was actually because the FBI was looking bad because this guy worked for the FBI was actually because the FBI was looking bad because this guy worked for the FBI And they had to get rid of him.
We've heard for years that there was a link, a direct link, that Alaki had contact with some of the 9-11 hijackers.
Why now, after he's been killed, is this becoming an issue?
Well, I think several reasons.
They're very concerned about the growth of domestic militancy in the United States.
Clearly, al-Waqi is just one of a number of people who are here trying to incite young Muslim males to attack their country.
Second, I think you have to put some responsibility onto your own Catherine Herridge's very good book on the FBI's mishandling of al-Waqi.
They apparently were running him as an agent, at least they thought, And they facilitated his removal from the country before anybody could talk to them.
So I think there's a lot of stuff going on here that really wasn't covered by the 9-11 Commission, sir.
So if in fact there is this link and we prove it and this investigation turns up all the evidence, what does it change?
Well, it changes how we think about domestic security.
You know, the FBI and other Department of Justice have always argued that there are no sleeper cells or terrorist cells in the United States because we haven't found them.
Well, there's a lot of times in life you look for something and don't find it, but it's out there somewhere.
For example, Osama bin Laden and his mentor, if you will, a Palestinian sheikh named Abdullah Azzam, had more than 50 offices and representatives in the United States during the Afghan war against the Soviets in the 1980s.
They had already established infrastructure.
The desire of the 9-11 Commission, it seemed to me, and I'm very biased on this, was to blame the CIA for the failure and drop it at that.
Now we're finding out that other people had opportunities, other people knew about activities that were going on in our country, and the 9-11 Commission ignored them.
So might this either strengthen the case for al-Awlaki's assassination, or might it strengthen the calls for those who said, hey, it might have been better had we detained this guy, questioned him, and found out the things that he was involved in?
I think it was better to kill him, sir.
I think a dead al-Awlaki is better than an al-Awlaki to talk to.
A dead al-Awlaki is better than an al-Awlaki to talk to.
How does that work?
Yeah, well, so this is...
So he used the meme, blame the CIA. Yep.
So he's obviously still, you know, has some connection.
Of course.
He's a shill, obviously.
And he's a shill.
And he, uh...
He's blaming the FBI on...
He wants to throw some blame on the FBI, and he may be actually announcing the fact that, hey, we've got a lucky now.
You guys better shut up about a couple of things.
Exactly.
So this is the ongoing war inside our own country, and then the end of it is that some poor kid gets droned because he's a loose end, because he's going to say, yeah, my dad was the FBI. Right, something like that.
Although I still think they extracted him, too.
Although, if you believe, what's the guy's name?
Dickie?
Of Newsweek?
Douchebag Dickie is what I'll call him.
Who's Douchebag Dickie?
He works for, like, Newsweek.
I forget his first name.
And when you hear him, this short clip.
Drones are okay.
Killing people is not a problem.
The thing that eroded our moral status in the world was invading Iraq and occupying the countries.
Iraq?
Occupying Iraq, Afghanistan for the last 10 years.
I mean, that is what erodes moral authority.
Frankly, I don't think the Americans, and most of the rest of the world, care about drone attacks here, there, and everywhere if you're attacking a handful of bad guys.
I don't care.
Here, there, everywhere.
Yeah, as long as it's bad guys, I don't care about drone attacks.
No.
John, you're American people.
Do you care?
I think it's great.
Yeah, I don't care.
It's awesome.
There's one over at the house now.
Here, there are drones here, there, everywhere.
Who cares?
No one gives a crap.
No one cares.
No one cares about drones.
It's okay.
It's good.
It's good.
It's for bad guys.
Beanbag the bad guys.
Woo-hoo!
You know what, people?
I hope you're the first to get beanbagged by a drone.
We're on that topic.
There was a thing on book TV over the weekend that I thought was kind of interesting.
It was a discussion of various non-fiction and fiction books by lawyers about lawyers and the questioning became kind of interesting.
And this is entertaining to you?
Yeah, it was actually.
And what it relates exactly to what you were just talking about, let's play the clip, which the guy asked a question, and the clip is a little long, called The End of Due Process.
And I'm just wondering, you know, I was thinking, you know, they've got some process and not process.
But in our larger legal issues, it seems like due process is being taken away from us when you say arbitration.
But the due process, for instance, the drones killing people overseas, American citizens, without due process.
I just wonder if we could talk a little bit about that.
Wow.
That's a fundamental issue to the integrity, I think, of our justice system is due process.
I don't know that we can...
We are in a very complex...
I don't want to fight for civil society in this world.
I don't know that you can make it all whittle down to due process.
So I don't want to try to do that with the drones and the like.
But let me take your point and expand on it just this much.
I think you hit a nerve when you say we may be putting due process in jeopardy.
Because if you don't have that, then all of the other pillars in the structure of the justice system fall.
Wow.
Yeah, they go on and they bring up a bunch of these points.
It was actually interesting on kind of a high level of these lawyers.
And another one that was there, this confab, was this guy Dees, who's the Southern Poverty Law Center guy, who's a very famous lawyer, who also discusses something he believes that the entire court system is done for.
Because everything now is based on contracts and arbitration.
And drones.
This drone.
And the drones will be just part of this whole system.
And he mentions in particular, you can play this clip, it's D's and the end of courts, but he mentions this interesting thing.
He says, you know the movie Philadelphia, you know where the AIDS, Tom Hanks won the Academy Award, the AIDS guy sues his own law firm because they got rid of him.
Right.
He says, today, this wouldn't happen in a million years.
He says, when you sign up with any law firm in any way, shape, or form...
Oh, you sign away your right to sue them.
Yeah, you sign an arbitration clause immediately.
He says, this whole movie is bogus.
First of all, there's a move to close the courthouse door.
And when I go to speak to the law students at Alabama, Ken locks them all in and can't get out during freshman orientation, so I get to indoctrinate them a little bit.
I've done this for many, many years, and I always tell them, now, y'all walk down the hall to the moot courtroom, because that's probably going to be one of the only courtrooms you're going to get to see.
And when you get out of law school, you're going to put on your best preparation, you're going to get everything ready, and you're going to stand in front of the...
And you're going to make your opening statement, and you're going to say...
And may it please the arbitrator.
And unfortunately, that's the case.
That's really the case.
But I do think that we've got to really fight to keep the courtroom door open.
And there's a conspiracy on this country, especially in civil courts, to shut the courtroom door because corporate America does not trust the jury.
And, you know, I gave a talk once, you don't need to go to law school to learn to practice law, just watch the movies.
And so I did that one year at the end.
I just said, let's take, what are your favorite movies?
The Office of Killed Mockingbird.
Let me get to the Philadelphia story.
I said, how do you like that?
First of all, how many of y'all came to law school to learn to go in a courtroom and represent people's rights?
All the hands go up.
I said, what do you think about the Philadelphia story?
They said, well, that's a great story.
I said, well...
There'd be no trial on that today.
You know why?
Nobody knows why.
Because when that lawyer signed up for that law firm, he would have signed a binding arbitration agreement.
He would have never had a trial.
So I think it's important that these law books emphasize that theme and keep the idea that That we need to have a jury system.
I ask law students all the time, do you know what the Sixth Amendment is?
Well, everybody knows that.
It's a right to jury trial.
And I say, what about the Seventh Amendment?
Most of you, some of you may know what it means.
I'm sure you know what it means.
But it's the right to a jury trial in a civil case for any matter of $25 or more.
That's just lost on those people up here in Washington, D.C. Small plans.
Thank you.
You know, I'm going to predict the future, John.
And you and I will be a part of it, if we can stay alive and on the air.
We will have a segment on the show, and it will go something like this.
Win, lose, or drop!
That's right, Gina and John have been married for five years, and now they want to split up, but they're not going to go to court, there's no divorce, oh no!
Let's see who's going to play and win!
Win, lose, or drop!
That's right!
Let's see who can escape the drone!
They don't need to go to court.
Just drone the bitch.
So, uh, you just love that question.
Because I can see it happening.
When are you going to get tired of it?
Well, soon.
But I can see it happening.
I can see...
Like, you know, you don't go to court to get a divorce.
You're just a droner.
Sorry.
Well, actually, the prenup, you know, could be just a simple...
Drone.
You don't have to...
You know, a prenup doesn't have to be...
A drone-nup.
What gets people about prenups, you know, they're super rich, you know, they're used to them, but the normal people out there, they would never sign one because it's like, oh, you love me, if you love me, you wouldn't have me sign this.
Yeah.
But if the prenups devolve into really not prenups at all, you have to rename them to something else, a marriage agreement, marriage arbitration agreement would be a good name.
Yeah.
And essentially, before you get married, the two of you say, just in case, if anything happens, we go to an arbitrator.
We don't start suing each other with this expensive process where lawyers make all the money.
And that's that.
You both sign off on the marriage arbitration agreement, and you get married.
Something like that will definitely be in the cards for everybody, and no one will be moaning about it.
We keep it as till death do us part, till death by drone.
It's going to be real easy.
That's great.
Yeah, well, this is a problem.
Yeah.
It's like a real problem.
Everyone's a lawyer.
In fact, the thing about the Seventh Amendment, you know, the small claims court, anything over 25 bucks.
Yeah.
You can do a lot with, like, your phone company.
You can be suing them.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
There's a lot of...
And all you do is file, and you go in there, and they never show up, and they always have a judgment against them.
And then you can get a mechanics lien and shut the business down if you...
My entire point about this Win Loser Drone game show is not far-fetched because we have Judge Judy and Judge Jingo and Judge Jabroni, all these reality shows based upon the $25 small claims court rule.
That's why all these crazies show up in court, in the so-called television court.
So, you know, it's a logical outcome.
Oh, man, we've got to get on this.
And by the way, the way the donations are going, we might have to.
Speaking of which, no, actually, yeah, I do want to speak about donations, but then of the presidential kind, one of the guilty pleasures I have is watching that a-hole spokeshole, Carney, the guy with the Napoleon complex who speaks on behalf of the President in the White House.
And he's got his own little show.
He loves his little show.
Listen to how this dick starts his show on Friday.
Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen.
Welcome to your daily briefing in the West Wing of the White House, the People's House.
Good Friday.
The People's House to you.
Good Friday to you, everybody.
Welcome to the White House, the People's House, the West Wing.
This is my show.
I'm Joe Carney.
Dick.
The People's.
He's talking to the same reporters every day.
Welcome to the People's House.
The People's House.
So this is the fantastically transparent, this is just a great, lovable clip about how the Obama administration, the most transparent administration in history, it's a fact!
It's a fact!
You know that, don't you, John?
It's a fact!
A fact!
It's a bogus fact!
It's a fact!
The most transparent in history are so proud that they are not taking money from lobbyists.
No money from lobbyists, ever.
No money from lobbyists.
Unless, unless, there's a way around it.
This is a very, very funny clip.
I'm not sure who the journalist is, but he deserves a dedouching.
One of the things the Occupy Wall Street people were upset about is special interests having a lot of influence here in Washington and having their voices heard and not individuals being heard.
And the New York Times has a story today about this campaign pledge the President made about lobbyists not being allowed to give money to his campaign.
And yet, the story lays out in great detail, however, there are a lot of people not just giving but raising half a million dollars each, a lot of money, for the President's campaign, and they just don't register as lobbyists, but their livelihood is lobbying.
So let me just explain what's going on here.
So there's registered lobbyists on behalf of companies, but instead of saying, hey, I'm a lobbyist, here's money to lobby and take our money, which the president has said he would never take that, they are bundlers, and they're taking donations from, well, I don't know, people who might happen to work at some firms that have an interest, and then they, under personal title, are giving half a million dollars to the campaign, which the Obama administration is happily accepting.
I guess the New York Times had an article about this, so it shows that all arrows are aimed at this president.
But the way Carney addresses it and answers it is just hilarious.
How do you square those two?
First of all, you make it sound like they don't register as lobbyists and they're somehow violating the law.
The...
This president's record is unprecedented in terms of his rejection of money from PACs and lobbyists.
I mean, I think what's interesting is...
Yeah, it's unprecedented.
It's a fact.
Be quiet.
You're citing that story and not the story.
Unprecedented can go either way, you know.
It's unprecedented.
That's true.
That's a good point.
He could be like, he's gotten more than anybody.
Anybody.
You're not going after Republican.
The guy, the journalist is good.
...
that demonstrated that lobbyists are lining up to, in record numbers, to contribute to Republican campaigns, campaigns that openly and willingly accept money from lobbyists.
Well, the president in 2008 made a pledge that he would not accept.
We can go through all the other candidates, but he has kept that pledge and has been more transparent and held himself and his administration to higher standards than any administration in history.
In history!
History!
And that's a record we're very proud of.
Okay, so how then, in the story, a woman who runs Pfizer's lobbying shop, when you ask, well, they don't lobby, she runs Pfizer's lobbying shop, drug company, billions of dollars of interest around the world, they lobby the White House, they lobby Congress.
She runs her lobbying shop, and yet she's raised $500,000 for the President's campaign.
Isn't that violating the spirit?
The point is...
That's not the point.
Shut up.
The point is...
This President...
Has been the most transparent in terms of disclosure, the most ethical in terms of the money that he will accept and the money he won't accept.
There is no one who compares.
Oh, nothing compares.
Thus far.
Thus far.
We hope that there will be.
And certainly none of the Republican candidates are even, I mean, they don't even make an effort, right?
And the fact is this president's record is unparalleled in this regard.
But he's also the president right now.
They're candidates.
We don't know who's going to get the nomination.
They should be held to a high standard as well.
And he had the standard prior to when he ran for office, not just when he took office.
Comcast lobbying.
David Cohn.
Who I know, by the way, David Cohn.
Comcast lobbying.
Raised a half a million dollars.
I understand you keep saying disclosure and everything else, but how do you have somebody who's running a lobbying shop and they're raising a half a million dollars, how does that square with a man?
Right.
Again, how should I answer this?
Let me just say we're unquestionably unparalleled the most transparent.
The President's standards are unequaled in this regard.
The practice has been unprecedented in this regard.
The transparency, the disclosure, unequaled again by any other candidate.
We're very confident that his record on this is exemplary.
You know, he will be on the wrong side of history, to use the elite's own words.
One day he will be on the wrong side of history, and he will be embarrassed, and his children will be embarrassed about having a father that stood there and lied in the people's house.
Kearney, the ex-editor of Time Magazine.
We should go to D.C. and say, hey, is Spokeshole Kearney here?
We want to have lunch in the people's house.
We want to have a picnic.
Yeah, in the people's house.
In the people's house.
We want to have a little...
Yes, the people's house.
So, you don't have to remind me because I reminded myself.
Clay Shirky.
Do you know who this gentleman is?
Clay Shirky?
Yeah.
Who is Clay Shirky?
He's one of the kind of blogger turned professor.
Writes a lot of books on the internet and how it's important to society and all those kinds of things.
And he's kind of probably, of all the guys who do that sort of work, if you see him on C-Spanish, he's probably the most full of himself of all of them.
So he's also a consultant to the Ministry of Truth, the New York Times.
Is that your recollection?
I don't know that, but it's possible.
It wouldn't surprise me.
So he was speaking at the Columbia School of Journalism, which is where they train the new slaves of the Ministry of Truth.
And, of course, these are all elitist a-holes.
And, you know the guy, James O'Keefe, who goes undercover and does, like, the acorn stuff?
Oh, right, right.
So he has a website called Project Veritas, which is kind of funny by itself.
And he went undercover.
And his whole mission was kind of to expose that they're elitist and they're talking about how they support Obama and I don't give a crap about any of that.
But there are two little clips that I pulled from his undercover footage.
The first one actually shows how I believe you and I were duped About this Occupy Wall Street.
Because, of course, now we see that as we play at the start of the show, the president is now using the 1% meme, so it's not just the president.
But were we duped?
Well, listen.
We were duped in the coverage by the mainstream media.
He explains exactly...
Why the mainstream media, like the New York Times, didn't cover Occupy Wall Street in the beginning because they actually wanted to give it full-blown coverage and really make it very successful for the president and the unions.
So the problem is, if you want Occupy Wall Street to succeed, you want them not to get press coverage in the beginning.
So, in a way, although Occupy Wall Street loves to talk about the lack of press attention, the period between when they started going and when the press caught on, less than today.
And that that was actually probably good for them.
It mattered so much to Occupy Wall Street that no newspaper sent them any traffic in the beginning.
So that by the time the media stuff appeared, they had a cultural core that was solid enough to absorb that traffic.
And if the Times had thought they were doing them a favor by saying, oh, you know, 20 kids slept overnight in a park and this is going to shake the world, it would have shaken the world less than it has now.
So even if the Times were being completely tactically liberal, they still wouldn't want to rush in and front run that story.
So, this, by the way, is classic shirky bullshit.
But go on.
So what are you saying?
I'd say it's bullshit.
That the Times wasn't in on it?
They're sitting around in a meeting.
Well, here's what we got to do, boys.
We got to keep this thing undercover for a while, and then we're going to blow it out.
That way it can be a big deal.
We can push the...
They don't do that in these meetings.
They basically have a meeting.
They're not that dishonest.
They're not a bunch of criminals like he's making them out to be.
This is just one of these reverse thought things where he can come up and come up with some very creative explanation that sells more books.
That's It's what he does.
It's what his job is.
Well, he's helping us by exposing the business model of our national treasure, NPR. The other thing the NPR's got is that the whole idea of sponsorship has been made ridiculous.
NPR runs advertising.
But because of the way the tax code is written, they don't have to call it advertising.
But a radio ad plus a URL is direct marketing.
So the invention of the web has created enormous wind in NPR sales for raising money through an advertising model, but they don't pay taxes through Snapchat.
With that loophole to be closed, NPR wouldn't be as a problem.
Hey, do you pay taxes, John?
You know, we paid nothing but taxes.
I'm going to look into this because I don't think that's true.
As far as I know, the only reason to use the underwriting model is to dupe people into thinking that there is no advertising or no corporate influence.
And so the public broadcasters just use the word underwriting and it's casually used just as we have from that old clip where she says underwriting, whatever you want to call it, advertising.
And I don't know that the tax code...
It has anything to do with it.
I mean, I can look into this, but it sounds again like Shirky kind of like dreaming up something to make it sound, you know, because his stuff is compelling.
It's like one of these philosophers with crazy ideas.
It sounds kind of interesting until you realize that you've been suckered into false thinking.
I mean, he's basically a Chomsky of this sort of observational writing.
So I'm not buying that either.
I'm not buying what he said.
He's right.
It's a scam.
But I'm not buying because it's a tax code issue.
Well, I like that he said it's advertising because you have a brand name, a product, and a URL that is advertising.
Well, actually, here's how the former CEO of NPR called it.
Okay, moving on to money.
How are NPR's corporate underwriting revenues holding up in the recession?
And what about foundation grants?
Okay.
Two different stories.
Underwriting is down.
It's down for everybody.
I mean, this is the area that is most down for us, is in sponsorship, underwriting, advertising, call it whatever you want.
I'm going to show myself all by donating to No Agenda.
Imagine all the people who could do that.
Oh yeah, that'd be fab.
Yeah, on no agenda.
Huh, huh.
In the morning.
Nailed it.
Well, we have our little group of underwriters.
We do.
Or advertising.
Call it whatever you want.
And they're advertising for themselves.
Yes, they are.
Robert Rodriguez in Lomita, California.
He's advertising his town of Lomita, California.
He needs a de-douching and a shard of karma.
Give him a double.
You've been de-douched.
You've got karma.
And he gave us $120 to keep the show on the road.
Thank you.
David Murkowski in Gastonia, North Carolina, $111.11.
We forgot to mention that again, and we've got only two people donating 1111.
Matt Ash, Barry being the other one, from Wauwatosa, Wisconsin, donating $111.11 because I have a third do-or-die interview with a great company on 1111.
Oh, that's good.
So does he want some karma?
Yep.
Oh yeah, absolutely.
For your 11-11-11 interview.
You've got...
11-1-11.
Yeah, 11-1-11-11-2011-11-911.
As I am desperate to get out of the media stooge business.
What's the media stooge?
I don't know.
But it's something we'll have to resort to if we don't get our donations up.
We're going to be a media stooge.
Hi, I'm Adam Curry.
I'm your media stooge.
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Bringing back the old Niner promotion that was done some time back when Adam was heard to say Niner four times.
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Yeah.
Thanks for all the hard work you both do to make the show happen.
I should be stepping up to the round table soon, so he's working on his knighthood.
Right.
And by the way, Matt Astbury, who is a media stooge, says we have the best podcast ever.
Hell yeah.
And he would know.
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That's interesting.
I'm donating this amount today as a possible promotion.
And this has many no-agenda memes on Sundays.
M-E-M-E. Hey, wait a minute.
I don't think you can get 13 in craps, can you?
It's a joke.
Duh.
$1,011.01 is a palindrome.
So backwards is the same as it is forwards except for the dot.
And it's also a binary.
Hold on a second.
What is that?
Binary...
What is it?
It would be 101101.
Let's see what that is in binary.
Come on, Google.
Don't let me down.
What is that?
45...
Which is 4 plus 5, which is 9, which is almost like 9-11.
If you read this number or more, the names of the donors go in a hat and a name is drawn for a knight with a No Agenda craptail.
They're all going to get a knighthood if they put this sentence in.
I just asked and I'm in the first draw, just a thought.
Anyway, we'll think about it.
We'll read this again and try to figure out what he's talking about.
That's a full year's promotion, promotion, promotion.
Also, our No Agenda Nation needs a flag.
We have a lot of great artists and leave it up to the other producers.
Need karma.
Just getting by.
Love the show.
Give them a karma.
Yeah.
Everybody for just getting by.
Hell yeah.
For just getting by.
We're just getting by.
Well, we're not just getting by.
Ian Gilman in Rockford, Illinois.
Ian.
Ian.
You always say Ian.
Did I say Ian again?
Yeah, you always say, did I say Ian?
Yes, it's Ian.
I'm consistent.
Rockford, Illinois.
67.89.
My fellow slaves.
Hello.
In this great Gitmo nation of ours, I have a very good friend who is going through a really rough patch.
Although they wish to remain anonymous, I wish that bit of karma could be sent their way.
If not, then send it my way and I'll redirect it to them.
Alright, better bounce it off.
Get your shield, boy.
You've got karma.
Judith Cook in Orleans, Massachusetts.
Nuts.
$60.
So, John and Adam, you should really encourage donations for anniversary year plus years married equals 2011, at least for the next two months.
Because for couples currently married, date married plus years married always equals the current year.
That's a great, that's a variant.
Honey, for our anniversary, I'll just throw something out there.
If our date of marriage plus year's marriage equals 111, then maybe we should just give it to no agenda.
Yeah, 2011.
Yeah, whatever.
Please, some work karma for my husband, Stephen Post.
Love your show.
Absolutely.
Here you go, Stephen, from your lovely wife, Judith.
You've got karma.
Aaron Stork in Milton, Washington.
In honor of my birthday on 1030, I decided to quit being a boner and become a donor.
Please call my buddy Russ as a douchebag.
Douchebag!
On general principle.
John, make sure Adam knows how great the Seattle-Tacoma area would be as a stop on the Hot Pockets 2009 tour.
Hot Pockets!
We'd love to see both of you up here.
Let's see.
We're going to Texas with a mini Hot Pockets tour, but we're going to go via Seattle.
This makes no sense.
Next year, next summer.
Oh, yeah.
We're going to do the West Coast.
Absolutely.
Chris Paul, Chicago, Illinois.
Double nickels on the dime.
Oh, by the way, Stork was double nickels on the dime, and so is Chris here.
Last time I donated, I didn't ask for Carmen.
Since then, I've lost my job and my girlfriend.
And my dog.
The thought of losing the show would be just too much.
So I would like to request a little karma today if I could.
We cannot rely on the Baron to continually bail out all of the boner douchebags out there.
Oh, what a great note.
Yes, here you go.
Get your dog and your job and your girlfriend back.
Wow.
John Baker in Mount Sherrod in Queensland.
In the morning from Cairns, Australia, wherever you finally make the trip.
Whenever you finally make the trip to great Gitmo Nation down under, make sure you include Cairns as there is so much to see and do here.
We'll definitely make sure we hook you up with a trip to the reef.
The great barrier.
We'd love some karma for the upcoming job interview and keep fighting the good fight.
Okay, good luck there on the reef.
You've got karma.com.
Double nickels on the time for John.
Alan Bean came in from Oakland at $50.
Donations from Alan Bean, he says.
Okay.
Armin Breuer, and Alan's giving us $50 a month.
Armin Breuer in Vienna, since tonight might be an evening karma.
Even karma could come in more than handy.
Oh, okay.
Tonight it might be okay.
Since it works all the time, here's some value for values.
Thanks, John and Adam.
Keep it to go.
All right.
It always works.
Liver fails.
It always works.
Hey, you sent me a note from Sir Troy.
He's not on the list, but should we do him today?
Yeah, let's discuss that.
How come he's not on the list?
Because I sent you that note instead.
Alright.
I have the note here.
Your recent reports on Australian politics are cause for another donation, $66.66.
It appears you are both now able to understand my note of frustration.
Read on Noagenda 322.
I have that.
Do we need to play that?
Do we need to play his?
No, no, it's okay.
Yes, well, and also we are keeping an eye on Australia as now Australians, their wings have been clipped.
There's no more flying.
Qantas grounded.
Yeah, I know, that guy's a douchebag.
He gave himself, he had a board meeting, gave himself a promotion.
And a huge bonus.
He gave himself a raise, so he's making more money, and then he shut down the airline because the three unions are striking against conditions and outsourcing and all kinds of, they're trying to screw the unions again in one of these situations where there's just, you know, there's not enough money to go around, because if you're going to pay yourself even more money as the CEO, you know, you don't really have to start firing people.
But this is like, there are people, you know, stranded everywhere.
They can't get home.
Yeah, screw them.
They're just slaves.
It gives a crap.
It's cattle.
Screw you, cattle.
That guy's got to go, but if they fire him, they give him like a golden parachute, and that would be worse.
But anyway, I want to remind everybody to go to noagendashow.com, dvorak.org, slash na, channeldvorak.com, slash na, and also noagendanation.com, and please get in to the $111.11 for the upcoming 11-1-11 if you can, and then also 11-11-11.
Coming up on 11-11-11, which is going to be the...
We don't have anything like that again until 12-12-12.
700 years.
Oh, really?
12-12-12.
12-12 will work.
Yeah, that's the next year.
Then we're done, because there's no 13-13-13, I can tell you that.
No, of course not, because we'll all be dead.
We're droned.
Droned, I tell you.
Exactly.
Also make sure to pick yourself up a slave t-shirt, which is always beautiful and also supports the show in some manner.
And we can no longer ask people to vote for us at the podcast awards.
Voting is closed.
Oh, that's too bad.
The winner shall be announced Friday, November 4th.
Time TBA. We'll never win.
We never win anything.
We're not going to win that.
No, I mean, we got a bunch of guys out there that can do bots, but they just don't do them.
Hmm.
Well, it is appreciated.
Very light.
Surprisingly light, actually, for this particular episode.
But there you go.
That's what happens.
That's what happens when...
What happens?
I don't know.
When the show sucks.
I don't know what happened.
I don't know if the show sucked or if it was Halloween and everyone's busy.
Everyone's busy getting costumes.
Yeah, that's possible.
I went to a...
Wait until Thanksgiving rolls around and we get nothing.
Yeah.
And it's going to be tough because, you know, we've got the move coming and doing the show on the road and then from hotel rooms.
On next Sunday, yeah, this coming Sunday, I'm going to have to do the show from San Francisco.
It's the annual Resurge Awards that Mickey and I try and steal money from medical venture capitalists to help messed up kids.
We do that once a year.
In San Francisco?
Yeah.
Huh.
Yeah.
We try to do one or two things.
We try to do our bit.
And every year we host this.
It's good.
They raise like $700,000 or something from these douchebag venture capitalist guys.
And it helps, you know, kids who are messed up.
And they're a good organization because they basically have no money.
They put it all into sending out medical teams and stuff.
But every year it's like, oh crap, we can't do that again.
So you're going to come by the office?
No.
Hell no.
I'm crazy.
I don't want to do anything of the sort.
So yeah, so we have one of these then.
Also a very short list, just one name, Aaron Stork.
Congratulates himself as he is celebrating his birthday today.
Happy birthday on behalf of all your buddies here at the No Agenda Show.
Sometimes known as the best podcast in the universe.
It is.
Yes, we've taken a vow of poverty to bring that to you, faithfully.
Faithfully, I tell you.
Somebody's in their truck right now listening going, well, maybe when I get home.
Yeah.
The guys are cool.
But, you know.
And by the way, anyone who, you know, every little bit helps.
So if you want to just go to the donation page, if you only have a couple dollars, and close out your PayPal account, a couple bucks, it all adds up.
So pull out the Red Book and put down two weeks.
Two weeks?
The show goes under?
Nope.
Europe goes under.
Oh, yeah.
The Euro quake is coming.
So we can pool.
Yeah, we can pool this, for sure.
Well, I'll tell you what this is based on.
I think it's important to discuss, because it will affect us here in the United States of getting more nations and around the world.
Yeah, and you know, the funny thing is, I made a request for people to send us some Euros, and we got Australians coming in.
Yeah.
Although the Australian dollar is strong, too, but it's not going to collapse like the Euro.
No.
So, on the last show, we, of course, were celebrating the fact that Europe had been saved.
No sooner had the document come out and had we read it, which basically says, well, you know, the 50% debt forgiveness is voluntary and all this stuff.
It's all...
The thing is bogus.
It did nothing.
And then the German Bundestag, the parliament essentially said, well, you know, yeah, this is all good, Herr Merkel, but we're going to have to vote every single time with the full parliament for money to go out to go save the frogs and the pasta guys.
And Italy, which we thought it was going to be Spain or Portugal, but it looks like Italy is the one that's going to fall into the abyss.
In one day, the cost of them borrowing money, which is what this bond selling is all about.
I think it's important for us to talk to our producers about this.
God forbid anyone explain it in the American news media.
What's actually happening is the cost of their borrowing went up, I don't know, like a full point.
Showing that the markets, the financial markets, like, no, we don't buy this.
So I think it's two weeks.
I think, what are we today?
So let's say November 15th.
No, 11-11-11.
Let's just call it 11-11-11.
So it'll be Friday the 11th of November is when Europe will crash.
You want to weigh in?
Do you think it's going to take longer?
Yeah.
January.
Oh, really?
You think January?
I think they're going to try to do everything they can to bullshit their way through the Christmas season, try to get a little action going there, a little last-ditch profits, and then it'll collapse in January.
Nigel Farage was on with the judge, Napolitano, if you want to hear that.
It's not like one of the Farage rants in Parliament, but it's kind of...
Yeah, I'm always gaming.
I like that guy.
You want to listen to a little bit of him?
Okay.
Well, I'm pleased we're having this debate because I've been amazed over the last few weeks.
There's been a wall of silence from America.
No one's been saying anything.
I mean, with respect, I would say that your president is handling your own public finances pretty badly.
How on earth can you want to get involved with tens and tens and tens of billions of dollars more, helping not to bail out Greece and Portugal and Ireland, but to keep them imprisoned?
Inside a currency that they should never have joined in the first place.
All you guys are doing and all we guys are doing is we're pouring good money after bad.
It's going bust, if that was no doubt at all.
I wish you could make that statement to the Congress of the United States, to the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System, and to the President himself.
Nigel, what will happen?
If some miracle occurs and the US says no, and Angela Merkel says no, and David Cameron says no, and Nicolas Sarkozy says no, and these countries are permitted to collapse.
Well, I can't see the IMF saying, though, because whilst it's based in Washington, you guys have turned a blind eye to the fact that the last guy, Dominic Strauss-Kahn, was a French bureaucrat who supported the Euro.
We've now got Christine Lagarde in charge, another French bureaucrat who supports the Euro.
So the IMF in Washington has been hijacked.
Angela Merkel's in a difficult position.
Her own electorate increasingly are saying, look, we've spent 20 years paying for Eastern Germany to be reincorporated into the West after the Berlin Wall came down, but we're not signing a blank cheque for Greece.
And Cameron, well, frankly, he's got no backbone or frankly no spine at all.
So we're inching towards...
The next bailout.
But there is a danger that at some point in time the markets will just overwhelm this thing.
And it won't matter whether the bailout fund is one trillion or two trillion or three trillion.
Events will just become too big for it.
What will happen in your view if there is no bailout and if contract law and the law of supply and demand and the free market runs its natural course?
Aren't we destined for the failure of these socialist entities anyway?
Wouldn't it be better to get it over with now?
Well, I couldn't agree more.
Let's take the pain.
I mean, look, back in 2008, when these big banking crises hit, and much of it because of the stupidity of what American and European politicians did with the banks, but think about Iceland.
Iceland just simply could not muster the reserves, all the political will, to bail out the banks.
They let the banks go bankrupt.
The Icelandic currency fell by 80%.
Interest rates went to 20%.
It wasn't just the volcanic ash that year that made things look grim in Iceland.
But where's Iceland today?
Well, Iceland today is getting back to growth.
She's taken the hit, she's taken the bad news, and she's recovering.
Take Greece.
We're keeping Greece trapped inside a currency.
Her currency probably should be 65% to 70% lower than it is.
Wow.
You know, most of her banks need to go bust.
And the risk is this, that we can talk about economics until the cows come home.
But the reality is, if you strip a country of its democracy, if you take away from it the ability of your own elected government to do things, be they good or bad things, and you turn it over to three foreign bureaucrats, one from the IMF, one from the European Commission, one from the European Central Bank...
Once a fortnight, they land at Athens Airport and they tell the Prime Minister what he can and can't do.
I put it to you that if you rob people of their ability to determine their own futures, they will turn to violence.
And I believe that what will happen in Greece before too long is there will be a revolution.
That is just how serious and how stupid this whole thing is.
I'm buying that.
I think that was a very eloquent explanation of the whole issue.
Yeah, I know.
I'm in total agreement, too.
But the problem is that these guys have been good at stalling it.
The optimists on Wall Street have been buying into everything they say, and so they keep everything pumped up.
That's why I think this can go past Christmas, and it could go even further than that, but they're not going to let the economies collapse before Christmas.
Right.
That would be horrible.
Well, but they're already shooting their wad because I love how Germany all of a sudden, hey, oh, we were looking under the couch and we found 55 billion euros.
How coincidental is that?
Did you see this?
Yeah.
It's like, oh, we just found $55 billion and a rounding error, a little accounting error.
It's so fake.
Oh, this is so fake.
And meanwhile, you're not seeing Greece on television.
You can see a little bit of it on Euronews and a minute 30 clip of, you know, it might as well be Occupy Wall Street, Denver or Oakland.
It's all part of the same thing.
But yeah, I mean, those people, it's over.
That's like, it's pandemonium.
It's really...
You should go to...
People, if you have a chance, go to Greece and go stand...
By the way, bring a helmet.
It's bad news there.
It's really...
This is bad, bad, bad.
So I'm saying two weeks.
You're saying through Christmas.
I don't know.
I don't know if they can handle it.
Oh, they're pretty good.
The market's moving real fast, man.
All right, I could be wrong, but I think 11-11-11 is a perfect date.
For it all to come tumbling down.
I think it's bold of you to think things are going to happen faster than they actually happen, but we'll see.
So I have an Ask Adam.
Oh, hold on a second.
You haven't done this in such a long time.
time let me see if we can find a all right Ask Adam, everybody.
This is in response to the, you know, you always ask, out of the blue, you ask me some crazy thing I can't answer.
So I'm going to, this is just a guess who this is clip, and you have to tell me who this is and see if you can identify this person.
Oh, guess who this is clip.
Okay.
All right.
Here we go.
Don't want every story to be...
I know.
I already know.
And it's going to be on television tomorrow night.
I already have the DVR set.
This is the Hummer from the New York Times.
The 1800 words.
There is a certain lack of discipline.
Sometimes a point is repeated too many times in a story or there are three quotes making the same point where one would do and I'd like to see...
A variety of storylines.
This is a promo, right?
For Jill Abramson.
Yeah, I saw this promo.
She's going to be on C-Span.
I'm telling you, I was sitting at my computer.
I have C-Span on.
All of a sudden, I'm like, whoa!
I'm like getting the remote.
I'm like, I've got to record.
It's the Hummer.
It's the Hummer.
And there's a promo, but it's on Monday night on C-SPAN. Oh yeah, I can't wait, because she's in major hummage mode.
I'm not sure, but...
She's doing a Gregorian chant.
So an interesting piece of news cropped up over the last few days.
Google...
Released its transparency report.
Telling everybody all the data requests.
Have you seen this?
Yes, I have.
Oh, nuts, because I was going to ask you a question.
For example, these are all the governments that have requested data from Google who now says, well, you know, we just have to give it to them.
And so the question is, how many requests, just out of the blue, would people think China, for example, asked Google for?
Three.
And how many did the United States ask Google for?
When I looked at the chart, it said none.
No.
5,950.
I know.
But Brazil was second, I think.
Wasn't Brazil number two on that chart?
India.
India.
India second at 1739.
Not even close to the United States.
We kick ass.
Yeah, we are rocking.
We're number one!
We're number one!
And Google has complied with 93% of them and user-specified accounts.
11,057 accounts are specifically targeted by the government to be looked at.
If you compare that to, let's say...
France, 1,300 requests, 1,600 user accounts by a factor of five.
Netherlands, 64.
Russia, 42.
Switzerland, 36.
They don't care.
We have 5,950 requests.
And that's just what they're telling us.
Right.
It could be a lie.
It could be low.
Whatever the case is, this is Google.
So when you go to Google, and it just means that you go to your Gmail account, the government says, hey, I want to know about this guy here.
He's been given to the No Agenda show.
Well, let's look at his Gmail account.
Oh, and here's his password for PayPal, and here's his password for Facebook, and here's all this stuff.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, you get all that.
So you use Scroogle.
SC. I don't use any of that.
I have my own email server, in-house.
No, I'm talking about Scroogle for your searches.
Oh.
Because Scroogle goes and runs it through a bunch of hoops, and then you get the same Google results.
And then, you know, it may or may not be safe, but at least you'd think they're probably safer.
Whatever the case is, Google is turning over everything.
Every time it's asked, they give.
There was a survey which CNN didn't have a...
I saw it on the...
By the way, in the Austin place, I've ordered DVRs for all of the televisions.
Because, you know, I had this one TV. I have two TVs.
Oh, right.
This was a big bugaboo with you.
Yeah, I screwed that up.
Oh, no!
I'm on the wrong box.
So I wasn't able to record.
Basically, all the newspapers, everybody ran with this survey.
And I don't know if you saw this survey.
Survey.
USA Today survey.
And here's how it went.
Do you know where you pick up the most germs?
We'll have the answer right after this commercial.
And your options were gas pump handle, ATMs, the button that doesn't change the light when you want to cross it.
Interesting they didn't have your keyboard, but the crosswalk buttons and all of this other stuff.
Did you see this pop up anywhere?
Did you see this?
Yeah.
Alright.
So, and on CNN, I'm looking at it, and right underneath, you know, so number one place, the dirtiest place is 71% of gas pump handles, 68% of corner mailbox handles, or highly contaminated with germs most associated with a high risk of illness!
And right below it, and this is what killed me, I saw who did the survey.
Do you know who did the survey?
I'm guessing some company that sells a sanitizing powder or something.
Kimberly Clark.
Yeah, there you go.
They are Kimberly Clark, makers of...
All things wipes.
Wipes.
Kleenex, Kosex.
The wipes company determines that there's all kinds of germs out there out to kill you.
I mean, this was a huge commercial.
And, you know, and I'm thinking it was...
I mean, here, USA Today even stead...
The survey from Kimberly Clark Professional, a subsidiary of the tissue maker that focuses on workplace wellness, was designed with help from environmental microbiologist Charles Gerba, a professor at the University of Arizona.
This shows you, this shows you how commercial everything really is.
And it was just a commercial.
I was blown away.
Yeah, well, we've talked about this before.
We should be doing this more often.
We haven't done it at all.
But we should do these, you know, we can get some professors and some other people to kind of, you know, put their names on these things.
And we can do surveys.
And there's a lot of survey software out there and there's survey companies that would volunteer for us, I'm sure.
No, please.
No one's going to volunteer for us.
Are you kidding me?
No, I think we can get that.
I don't think so.
In exchange for some promotion.
Okay, so how about this?
We know we have a lot of educators out there.
Maybe one of the educators who has a professor title will step up and say, yes, I will underwrite a study that is entirely designed to prove that people who listen to the No Agenda podcast have better sex.
Don't you think?
Maybe the sexologist.
Yes, just any PhD.
Get that Eaton woman that you type with.
Have her do it.
Who?
Which woman?
Oh, Bobby Eaton.
Yeah, Bobby will confirm.
Well, I can guarantee you this.
Who's got the sexiest voice out there that we can get to say something like?
I love her, but it ain't Bobby.
There are women with these ridiculous voices.
Every once in a while, you run into one.
There's a PR woman occasionally.
I think guys always must get a kick out of it.
You get the answer to the phone, and this woman has just got this voice that is like, holy crap.
What I always think is, man, oh man, voice overwork.
Yeah.
You know, this like, what a voice!
I might know someone.
But yeah, we need a PhD to step forward and we can say University of Blah can step forward and basically say it has been proven that people who listen to the No Agenda podcast and people who listen to the No Agenda podcast have a better sex life and scientific proof that when you donate to the show, your penis grows.
Something like that would be great.
I don't think the news media is going to pick that up.
What do you mean?
Something that actually would be newsworthy.
Okay, genius.
I don't have anything.
If I had something, I'd be doing it as we speak.
I'm only a critic.
I'm just a critic.
I'm not an engineer.
Okay.
I figured something out for you, critic.
You have been harping on this for weeks, and I think...
I don't have the full answer yet, but I have a theory about the president saying this.
And they should stop playing politics and act on them now.
These jobs proposals are also paid for by asking folks who are making more than a million dollars a year to contribute a little more in taxes.
These are the same folks who've seen their incomes go up.
That's it.
I'm glad you fell for it.
Folks, this is code and I think I've figured it out.
Oh good, I'm glad somebody did.
This is code and he's sending messages to Folk Nation.
Folk Nation, also known as Folks, is an alliance of street gangs based in the Chicago area, which has since spread throughout the United Nations, specifically in the Midwest and the South.
And they are the rivals to the People Nation, known as People.
So when the President is talking about Folks, he is sending code.
It's like his version of throwing gang signs.
And I was not able to yet find a specific message that would really work for the folks.
But I really think Let me summarize.
So what you think is that Obama keeps saying folks because he's a gangster who is sending coded messages to his homies for them to do something else.
So what we have to do is take and deconstruct the system.
Yes.
Using cryptography, we have to figure out what the message is to prove it.
All right.
So this is why I bring it up.
Now listen to what he...
This is from his presidential YouTube address.
Let's deconstruct the gang sign he's throwing to his homies back in Chicago.
And they should stop playing politics and act on them now.
These jobs proposals are also paid for by asking folks who are making more than a million dollars a year.
Okay.
So he's saying...
Yo, drug dealers making more than a million dollars a year.
Do you think that could be it?
How about extorting people that are making more than a million dollars a year?
Oh, okay.
Alright, let's listen to the second, folks.
To contribute a little more in taxes.
Tax isn't just code for the VIG. You need protection.
He wants them to up the ante on the protection bracket in Chicago.
These are the same folks who've seen their incomes go up so much.
Hey, you're benefiting from the whole drug trade I've opened up with Mexico.
Hey, you're benefiting.
Let's get some protection.
What do you think?
I'm liking it.
You know, people are going to call me crazy for this.
Well, they call you crazy anyway, so what difference does it make?
There you go.
Now I'm going to start rethinking this whole thing with that in mind and see if we can deconstruct.
When he says folks, that would be the key word for the message.
Stay on it, man.
Stay on it.
I'm telling you.
He says it too much.
Yes, he does.
And it's always folks, folks, folks, folks, folks, folks.
I'll bet you there's something to look, which is the other thing he does a lot of.
Look.
I don't think there's a look gang.
I don't know.
It's not a little gang, but it might be some generalized message for the police or something like that.
He speaks a lot.
He gives a lot of speeches, this guy.
In fact, I got one.
I got the Obama on Halloween speech, which kind of...
See if you can find the subtext of this little clip that says Obama will not be running for re-election.
This is one of our little themes.
Wait a minute.
This is Obama on Halloween?
Yeah.
Wait, wait, stop, stop.
Let me give it a setup.
He just got off the Halloween gig that they do at the White House, not on Halloween apparently, and he's speaking to the Italian-American community just to say hello.
But now that Malia and Sasha are with their friends, they do not notice that I'm gone.
They're now getting to that age.
They don't care.
They're pleased that I didn't embarrass them too much during the brief time I was with them.
So I am honored to be here to celebrate National Italian American Heritage Month.
The whole thing is a metaphor.
The whole thing.
They didn't notice that I was gone the short time I was with them.
The brief time I was with them, I thought, was the key phrase, which is that he's not spending enough time with the kids.
Right.
Time to quit.
Hmm, interesting.
Just get it in.
People still look at me funny when I bring this up and say he's going to quit.
I will say people go, are you high?
Are you high?
Are you high?
By the way, I was a little disturbed until I followed up on it.
Right after our show on Thursday, where NATO had announced that they were going to stay in Libya, the United Nations came out and said, we're ending it!
We're ending it!
October 31st, we're ending it, it's all over!
We're ending it, we're ending it, it's all done!
And I was like, oh man, I can't believe this.
We just said that, we're just joking about them not ending it.
But luckily, I delved into the information.
So, you would agree with me that the mainstream media has said, war is over, we're done, NATO is out of Libya, right?
Yeah.
Wrong.
No, no, no.
They said it's done, so it's done.
No.
Yeah, they said it's done, but that's not true.
Huh.
United Nations Security Resolution 2016 on Libya.
You know I love reading this stuff.
What this does, it says they are recalling a number of the measures, but it is not like the whole...
So from Resolution 1970 and 1973...
But they are not recalling the whole thing.
In fact, the only thing, here it is, is they are recalling its intention to keep the measures imposed by paragraph 6 to 12 of Resolution 1973 under continuous review and to lift as appropriate and when circumstances permit these measures and to terminate
authorities given to member states in paragraph 4 of Resolution 1973 in consultation with the Libyan authorities.
So they didn't recall anything.
Everything is in place except for an exemption, a waiver if you will, that is given to three oil companies.
It is total bullcrap.
All of this is in the show notes at 352.nashownotes.com.
Complete lie.
Resolution 2016 on Libya only says that they will recall, and this is, by the way, it's mainly about the financial freezing of assets.
That's what paragraphs 6 to 12 are.
They feel like it if circumstances permit and if they agree in consultation with the Libyan authorities who are these self-imposed jabronis who are educated in Pennsylvania.
So it's total bullcrap.
Nothing has been lifted.
The whole place is still under complete security blanket.
And then we learned that there were 2,300 British Army officers and personnel in Libya.
On the ground.
Oh yeah, really?
Yeah.
How many people we got there?
Yeah, who knows?
Who knows?
This whole thing is just like, what a lie.
Big lie.
And the media just goes, hey, Ministry of Truth, shut up.
It's all true.
It's over.
And we just...
It just blew me away.
Blew me away.
Yeah.
You weren't really shocked, though, were you now?
Yeah, no.
Well, no, yes and no.
But still, I'm like, really?
You know, is that hard?
I'm a disc jockey.
All I have to do...
And I read one paragraph of this thing.
I'm like, oh, it's not true.
They're just lying to us.
Duh.
Nobody cares.
We got a note from our boys at Occupy Wall Street Los Angeles.
Yeah.
They said, I hope they send in SWAT teams.
This whole thing is bogus.
The voice of the people is dead.
No one is standing in front of City Hall voicing their opinion.
It's the Woodstock of Occupy L.A. In fact, the biggest event they had was a wedding.
They had an Occupy L.A. wedding on the steps of City Hall.
He says it's just homeless people and college kids camping.
It's not even co-opted.
There's nothing happening.
They're doing weddings.
The whole thing is completely falling apart.
No one gives a crap.
He said he hopes.
And he slept there.
He hopes that the SWAT teams come in.
How crazy is that?
Yeah, well, this is the problem that we face.
Good analysis on the...
Who did this?
This was really actually quite good.
About the Obama bailout, which we called for.
Did we ever put this in the Red Book?
I think we did.
That the next big bailout would be the student loans.
Isn't that in the book?
No, we've talked about it, but we've never put a...
Damn, we should have put that in the book.
And we talk about it constantly, which is that Obama's going to use it as a carrot to get students to vote for him if he runs again, even though we still are dubious about that.
So the way it works, and there's a pretty good deconstruction of this on, what is this, the politicalpulse.com.
So the average high-end school is $55,700 a year.
Hello?
So, if you have a full-on loan for four years plus a fifth year to go hang out and kick some tires, you come out with something like $223,000 of debt plus $9,000 for your fifth year of kicking around.
The way this is supposed to work...
And if you do the numbers, this is what's so great about it.
It just doesn't add up.
What Obama is promising, by the way, it's nothing more than a promise because he's just doing it under executive order and not going to Congress or anything.
And by the way, there are federal loan programs.
It's not just all commercial.
But the way they want to set it up is you will not be required to pay any more than 10% of your discretionary income.
So that's after you've paid rent, after you've paid for food.
I think it's those two.
If you're making $60,000 a year, which is about $45,000 after taxes, if you buy a house, so you have food, so you got your discretionary stuff, you'll never be paying more than like $400 a month.
So if you have a quarter million dollar loan, in 20 years, that's only $65,000.
So, at the end of the day, who's going to pay for the real loan?
It's going to be taxpayer money.
Yeah, they're not going to do that.
They stick these people in the nice slave situation, and the interest will be going up, and they still have these gotchas where if you miss a payment, it's like a credit card.
You go from 3% to 8%.
You miss another payment, you go to 30%.
Next thing you know, they got some guy with a baseball bat coming over to the house to break some kneecaps.
I mean, this is ridiculous.
This is a complete abomination.
It's slavery.
Say it.
Say it with me now.
It's slavery.
It's abomination.
Here's Ron Paul on the issue.
But would you admit that there are people who need federal help?
Be it in education or be it in housing or food stamps.
I mean, that kind of thing.
Food stamps!
Yeah, there's always some needs.
The market isn't perfect, but instead of having, you know, a trillion dollars worth of debt and a medical care system that's totally broke down, you would always have some needs.
But that was in existence before 1965.
But there was nobody out in the streets without medical care, nobody out in the streets that were...
There were more people under bridges now than there were back then.
And also, there were loans.
People do loan, but even if they have difficulty, you know, sometimes it takes people six years to go through college, and sometimes it takes people four years.
But back then, there were jobs available, but the whole thing was, the cost was so much lower.
So, yes, it will not be perfect, but what we have now is this catastrophic mistake, where people have a pseudo-education and no jobs and all debt.
I mean, we've indentured that.
And like slaves!
Pseudo-education and slavery.
This is great.
Yeah, it's perfect.
By the way, a repeat of the 2008 elections, I guess because Ron Paul, who of course is completely being, now they've just gone to complete, just ignore the guy, 100%, even though he won yet another poll.
He just keeps on winning polls.
They're pulling out the old hit job on him, which is that he's a racist.
And Wolf Blitzer.
I guess in 1992...
Someone put out a newsletter and said, like, the Ron Paul newsletter, and there's all this racist crap in it, which, of course, is stuff that has never come out of his mouth.
And Wolf Blitzer, I guess he got the memo, he's like, hey, we've got to knock this guy down a peg.
This Ron Paul guy is irritating because he keeps winning even though we give him no coverage.
And by the way, young kids don't watch CNN, okay?
They don't watch.
That's old people.
Look at the commercials.
Hearing aids, free wheelchairs, penis medicine.
When you're watching a show and they cut to a free wheelchair commercial, you've got to rethink your priorities about what you're watching.
Believe me, I do this a lot.
I'm like, why am I watching?
Who cares?
It's old people.
Of course, old people have a vote, and I don't want to be ageist.
But yeah, the kids are not watching this.
This is two minutes, but it's well worth it because Ron Paul gets in Wolf Blitzer's face and smacks him and says, hey, screw you.
And I don't have the blitzer, but he's like, they just pulled the tapes out of the closet.
Like, oh, he's racist.
You know, it's like, you know, black people are bad.
You know, they only want to kill white people.
You know, it was some horrible thing.
And he's confronting Ron Paul with it.
And Ron Paul gets pissed.
All right, let's talk about it.
How could this happen?
Because I've gone through some of these old Ron Paul newsletters, and it's got your name bannered on the top.
And some of these comments, as we just heard from Brian's piece, are pretty shocking.
Shocking.
Yeah, it is.
And, of course, it's been rehashed a long time and it's coming up now for political reasons.
But everybody knows in my district that I didn't write them and I don't speak like that.
And nobody has heard me ever say anything like that.
And I've been reelected time and time again, so everybody knows that I don't participate in that type of language.
But the point is, is when you bring this question up, You're really saying you're a racist or are you a racist?
And the answer is no, I'm not a racist.
As a matter of fact, Rosa Parks is one of my heroes.
Martin Luther King is a hero because they practice the libertarian principle of civil disobedience, non-violence.
Libertarians are incapable of being a racist because racism is a collectivist idea.
You see people in groups.
A civil libertarian like myself see everybody as an important individual.
It's not the color of their skin that is important, as Martin Luther King said.
What is important is the character of the individual.
You know what is really interesting, though, and this might be behind this, because I, as a Republican candidate, probably am getting the most number of black votes and black supporters, and now that has to be undermined.
And I do this because I attack two wars that blacks are suffering from.
One, the war overseas.
In all wars, minorities suffer the most.
So they join me in this position I have against the war in Iraq.
And what about the war on drugs?
What other candidate will stand up and frighten the camera and say, I would pardon all blacks, all whites, everybody who are convicted for nonviolent drug acts and drug crimes?
And this is where the real discrimination is.
Let me finish this.
Let me finish, you bitch!
Because I've got to get my message back because you put the other message out.
Now, if you want to look for discrimination, it's in the judicial system.
Fourteen percent of the inner-city blacks commit drug crime.
Sixty-seven percent of blacks are in prison.
That's discrimination.
That's the judicial code that I am attacking.
And that is not racism.
What I defend is the principle of libertarianism, where we never see people who belong to a group, and every individual is defended and protected because they're important in the individual.
Not because of their color of skin, but of their character.
So I am the anti-racist because I am the only candidate, Republican or Democrat, who would protect the minority against these vicious drug laws.
Fail, Wolf.
Fail!
A douchebag.
Give Wolf Blitzer a douchebag.
Hell yeah.
Douchebag.
You want to hear his comeback?
Congressman Nutter.
Crap, that wasn't in the script.
I was supposed to, like, surprise him with these shocking documents.
I'm voting for Ron Paul.
What a stooge that blitzer is.
Oh, he's such an a-hole.
I mean, what kind of meeting did they have in the back?
What are we going to do?
I got this, look what I found here on the internet.
Well, no, this is the race card that we know is being pulled by the Obama administration.
This is part of it.
This is what it's come down to.
We have a black man in the White House, and he, well, not he specifically, but I believe we're going to have more racist crap going on than ever.
This is nuts, instigated by them.
This is crazy!
Holy moly!
I'm freaking out!
Holy moly!
Holy moly!
Well, I want to remind people that we do have an end-of-show clip with Representative Chavitz grilling Napolitano in a very humorous way.
She comes out, and I want to mention something that happens at the end where she says, well, you know, it went to the Attorney General, and then you talk about Fast and Furious, and then it went to the Independent Council.
And the fact of the matter is...
Oh, man.
The fact of the matter.
Sorry, that's actually up one from last week.
Yeah, you were doing so well.
The point is, is the...
I don't think that call...
I think you can substitute the fact of the matter for the point.
Okay.
Here's...
She...
She had months and months before this happened, before her excuse is invalid, is the only thing I want to say.
So before we go, I have a question for you.
No.
What do you mean no?
Go ahead.
I had dinner with...
Remember Mickey hooked up with...
She's got some friends and we kind of hung out the extremely successful entertainment lawyer in Los Angeles who have the box at the Lakers games.
Yeah, okay.
And so we had dinner with them.
We see them once every six months or whatever.
This is kind of like, we're going to Austin, screw y'all.
And this guy, I didn't actually know he's 67, so he's older than you and I, but he is from the baby boober generation, and you're kind of on the cusp there.
And it turns out he has an FBI profile.
He went down to Mississippi.
He was on the forefront of the...
You know, he got his head bashed in.
And what was kind of interesting is he said...
Of course, a little crack pottery came up.
I didn't know the guy was a complete crazy radical back in the day.
And he says...
And all of a sudden it came out, right?
It just started gushing because he felt like he could let his guard down, like he wasn't with a bunch of...
Assholes.
Hoity-toity a-holes that he usually hangs out with.
Yeah.
But he said it doesn't make any difference.
We're screwed.
This country is screwed.
The world is screwed.
And he's given up.
And I just wonder...
He's given up?
Yeah.
Yeah.
He's saying it doesn't make any difference.
Don't listen to the show, at least.
Well, I did.
I mean, he's been too busy reviewing cases.
I don't know.
And I was like, do you think that this is...
And he agrees, by the way, with what you said, that the baby boomers failed.
He said, we had the chance.
We had the absolute chance to get it all done.
We failed.
Forget about it.
This country...
He says, Europe is dead, gone, over, kaput.
He said, this country, we give people the illusion of the American dream, but they're all going to get screwed.
They're all going to die.
And all I care about is myself and my family.
Screw y'all.
And I was wondering, do you feel that this maybe is a general consensus among the baby boomers?
That they've all said, you know what, screw it, my kids can...
I think there's a lot of that.
I don't think it's a general consensus.
I think there's still some optimists out there.
I mean, it's just like the broad range of...
I mean, he was an extremist, it sounds like to me.
Oh, yeah, oh, yeah, major.
Yeah.
He was incredibly disappointed.
I think a lot of the baby boomers, the most left-wing of them, became neocons.
I mean, all the neocons are essentially communists.
I mean, literally, back in the day.
And, you know, so it's like they've scattered.
They've gone in all kinds of different directions.
And I don't think his attitude is necessarily, his negative attitude, I might add, is necessarily a consensus attitude.
I think there's a lot of people like that.
I think that is a big problem.
You know what he did say?
He said, the good news about this and this Occupy, he said, the kids are going to get laid and they'll have great music.
And then I said, oh, and by the way, good-looking hookers.
He said, oh, yeah, that too.
Yeah, the good-looking hookers.
Yeah, we agreed on all of that.
Okay, well, I said that I still had belief for the fight.
Yeah, hope.
And I said, hey, you should donate like a million to the show.
And he looked at me and goes...
Anyway...
We certainly appreciate your help.
If you could consider going to Dvorak.org slash NA, keeping the show on the air.
And I'm just...
I am...
Here's my hope.
I'm hopeful that people are holding back for the 11-11-11 weeks that we've got coming up here with 11-1-11 and 11-11-11.
And Dvorak.org slash NA is the place where you can go to find out along with ChannelDvorak.com slash NA and NoAgendaNation.com.
And NoAgenda Producer Update is coming up.
Hopefully they'll be talking about the Linux port project that I have.
We'll see what they're talking about.
That'll be on the live stream.
And we'll be back on Thursday coming to you from the Hilltop Watchtower Crackpot Command Center while I'm just waiting for the EuroQuick.
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And from Northern Silicon Valley, where I got no punchline for today's show, I'm John C. Dvorak.
And we'll have that end of show clip first with Lucy Napolitano.
We'll be back on Thursday right here with No Agenda.
I don't believe I've ever spoken with Eric Holder about Fast and Furious.
How many...
How many agents, since you've taken office, how many of your agents have been killed in the line of duty?
Oh, too many.
Do you know?
Do you have any number?
Well, I would have to double check, but I would say at least 12.
How many guns from Fast and Furious operation were detected crossing the border?
I do not know.
How many guns from Fast and Furious were seized at the border?
I do not know.
Why is it that an operation that big and that important and that much in the news, you don't have the details of?
Well, Representative, as you know, it was an ATF operation.
In 2009, we know of two instances where ICE ceased investigating at the request of the ATF. Are there any other instances where you were asked, your department, your agency, was asked not to pursue cases that potentially had a conflict with Fast and Furious?
In the wake of your investigation of Fast and Furious, I've been made aware of those two ICE instances.
I don't think I've been made aware of any others.
Let me go to testimony that you had last week.
Last week you were with Senator Grassley.
You were asked about communication with Mr.
Burke regarding Operation Fast and Furious.
Question for Senator Grassley.
Have you had some communications?
Your response, and I'll read it very quickly.
No, not about Fast and Furious.
When Agent Terry was killed, it was December 14th.
I went to Arizona a few days thereafter to meet with FBI agents and assistant at U.S. attorneys who were actually going to look for the shooters.
At the time, nobody had done forensics on the guns, and Fast and Furious was not mentioned.
He went on to say, but I wanted to be sure that those responsible for his death were brought to justice and that every DOJ resource was brought to bear on the topic.
So I did have conversations, and it would have been December of 2009.
I think you meant December of 2010, about the murder of Agent Terry.
But at the point in time, nobody knew about Fast and Furious, so that's a different question.
And yet we have documents that show, and this is a quote, an urgent firearms trace requested by ATF agents on the scene to determine that these firearms came from Fast and Furious.
Why is it that you, as a Secretary of Homeland Security, with one of your agents dead on the scene, did not get briefed about Fast and Furious?
I do not know.
How is that acceptable?
Do you think that they withheld that information from you?
Or is it your responsibility to actually find that information?
Well, I think the focus, Representative Chaffetz, is we had a dead agent.
And a dead agent killed in a very rugged area of Arizona.
And the number one thing that was on my mind when I went out there was to make sure that the appropriate resources were being dedicated to that investigation.
But you have guns from Fast and Furious that are found on the scene.
You testify here just last week that there was no knowledge of Fast and Furious at the time.
You went out of your way to say that the forensics weren't done.
And that's not true.
That's not true.
I'm not going to comment on that.
I don't know the document to which you refer.
What I can say and what I think is fairly clear from the context is I was speaking to my knowledge at the time and I did not know about Fast and Furious.
Did you direct or was there Any direction from your department and agency to allow the guns to go across the border that were involved in Fast and Furious?
Fast and Furious was an ATF operation.
So if your agents detected weapons going south across the border, you just let them go because it was an ATF operation?
As the two incidents you refer to, the two ICE incidents, I think, reveal, is when they picked up guns and ran them or asked ATF to e-trace them, ATF came back and said, these are part of a larger operation, stand down.
After the second incident in which that occurred, that matter was taken by the ASACs to the Assistant U.S. Attorney, which is common.
That happens in the field.
And the Assistant U.S. Attorney said that the ATF operation would take precedence.
So was it the Department of Homeland Security's policy to allow guns to go south into Mexico if they were involved in Fast and Furious?
I'm looking for a yes or no.
No.
How is it that you can make a claim that the border is now more secure than ever, and yet the Obama administration purposely allows nearly 2,000 guns to be released, knowing that they're going to go to Mexico with hundreds of people killed by those weapons, two dead U.S. agents?
And yet you don't even know if we've detected even one of those guns.
In fact, on January 14th, you did detect somebody in New Mexico.
There were eight guns found.
They didn't even run a trace on them.
And you let those guns go into Mexico.
I find that absolutely stunning.
And for you to have two dead agents and have never had a conversation with Eric Holder about Fast and Furious and about this area is totally unacceptable.
Totally unacceptable.
How much time has expired?
Yeah.
Mr.
Chairman, I know Representative Chaffetz has his opinion on this matter as the tone of his question reveals, but I simply would suggest that no one takes the deaths of agents more serious than I, and also that one of the reasons that we have not directly dealt with the Attorney General on this is he very quickly and appropriately put this matter in the hands of the Inspector General.
Thank you.
Clip of the day.
I'm very excited here because I am about to meet yet a producer of the No Agenda show.
Gavin, how are you?
In the morning to you, mate.
I'm very well.
In the morning to you, too.
It's the first time I've had a public in the morning with someone I haven't met before.
And look, I didn't always expect to find a No Agenda fan at a sceptical event.
Well, I am a born-again sceptic.
I'm a former federal agent for the Australian Federal Police.
Oh, of course.
I mean, look, all the sysadmids and the dark ops people listen to the No Agenda show.
I'm definitely dark ops.
I specialise in surveillance.
And I'm waiting for my drone.
I want my drone.
Do you know if we've got any drones operating in Australia or we can't afford them yet?
Can't tell you.
Because I don't know.
And why are you here at Skeptic Camp today?
Are you doing a bit of dark ops for ASIO here today, or are you here on your own now?
I'm here to try and pick up a few tips on the cryptography, which we just listened out on, and drop a few business cards.
And by the way, I've got a business card, and it's got the No Agenda Show logo on there.
You're propagating the formula.
Yes, I like to propagate the formula as much as I can.
Hit them in the mouth.
And tell me, how did you discover the No Agenda Show?
I was listening to Twit this week in technology.
I heard John C. Dvorak mention it, and I've been listening since the early teens.
Same here.
I heard it on Twit.
I thought, well, I'll give it a go.
I hadn't heard of Adam Curry, and it's quite a combination.
It doesn't meet the standard of evidence that most sceptics would feel the show needs to meet, but in some ways, that's not important.
It's the ideas that are out there.
Absolutely correct.
And I like to break down the memes and listen, watch, and, well, that's what I've been doing since I was a young fellow in the army.
I joined the army and went to an armoured reconnaissance unit, and I only believe what I can see, which is why I'm here at Skepticamp.
A lot of sceptics get angry when I suggest that they have listened to No Agenda because they find the show long, they find it trivial, and they find it, frankly, crackpot.
And, you know, I don't mind hearing some crackpot.
You've got to balance your crackpot and your buzzkill.
So, with those two, it is just...
The dog's bollocks, it really is.
What's your favourite bit of the show?
I'm a fan of the second half of the show.
I love the bits where we talk about the opening of the Stargate with all the fish coming out.
I'm just interested in being exposed to ideas that might be considered crackpot.
I love it.
I do too.
I like to temper my logical side with a little bit of fun and crackpottery.
Because sometimes, you know, if you get too intense and sceptical, you can sort of disappear up your own beard, can't you?
Indeed you can.
Indeed you can.
In the morning to you.
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