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	Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak.
	It's Sunday, August 7th, 2011.
	Time for your Gitmo Nation Media Assassination, Episode 328.
	This is No Agenda.
	Reporting from the front lines of Gitmo Nation from the Four Winds 5000 Crackpot Command Center in the land of Lincoln from Inverness in the great state of Illinois.
	In the morning, everybody.
	I'm Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley, where it's as miserable as usual, I'm John C. Dvorak.
	It just rained here too, actually.
	We had quite a little downpour.
	A gully washer.
	Good word.
	Good one.
	Gully washer.
	Gully washer is big rain.
	In the morning to you, John.
	In the morning to you, Adam, and in the morning to all ships at sea.
	And boots on the ground, and of course, as always, our human resources in the chat room at NoAgendaStream.com, NoAgendaChat.net.
	They're all worth about $9.2 million when they're born.
	They are quickly depreciating, but they're charged up and ready to go exactly the way their government loves them, and here to help us through the next two hours, two and a half hours of the show.
	So it looks like you beat me on this one.
	This is a case of pre-celebration.
	This is a karmic thing that happens to every football team.
	Every winning football team, you mean to say.
	No, you see this all the time.
	The team, like, is five, you know, three minutes left to go, and now there's 30 seconds left to go, and the team goes down and kicks the winning field, or looks like the winning field goal, with 20 seconds to go, and they start pre-celebrating.
	And they're all celebrating, and spiking the ball, and na-na-na-na-na-na-na.
	Yeah, and then the other team has 20 seconds left, they score a touchdown and win.
	I have seen this happen way too many times.
	Well, John, I didn't even want to start the show talking about the fact that I predicted...
	Quite accurately as it turns out, that the debt ceiling would be raised, both you and I agreed on that, but that the actual rating downgrade would take place.
	And I just want to remind you of this little ditty.
	If you guys don't do another QE3, or if you don't issue more bonds, if we don't get more debt on the books, which we then make money from, we're going to downgrade your existing bonds.
	Yeah, I suppose they could say something like that if they want to toot to the head.
	Oh, John, really?
	I had a lot of pleasure finding that clue.
	That's still in play, you know.
	Actually, even funnier was little Timmy Geithner when he was posed the exact same question several weeks ago.
	Is there a risk that the United States could lose its AAA credit rating, yes or no?
	No risk of that.
	No risk.
	If you listen carefully now, you see the leadership of the United States of America, the President, The Republican leadership in both houses and the Democrats recognizing now that this is the right thing to do for the economy.
	That we have to put in place now reforms that bring down our long-term deficits in ways that will help strengthen future growth.
	And that's incredibly important recognition by people and we'd like to put something in place As soon as we can, so we can begin that process.
	So, Standard& Poor's is wrong.
	The United States will keep its AAA credit rating.
	You know, people, absolutely.
	And people who look at the United States, I mean, it's on a signal, people.
	Hey, absolutely.
	Absolutely.
	Absolutely.
	You know what was great, though?
	You remember Christy Romer?
	She was the president's economic advisor.
	She's covering her ass.
	She's been doing this for a while.
	She'd be like, well, we told the president before he even had his inauguration that it was going to be really bad.
	He needed more money for the stimulus.
	She's covering her butt everywhere.
	And let us point out once again...
	Which must be quite a chore, I should say.
	Now, now, John.
	She's never had a real job.
	She's an academic.
	But she was on the Bill Maher show, and she let out a little word, a couple of words actually, including a few about Timmy.
	So, excuse my language, but we used to do a segment on this show called "How Fucked Are We?" I didn't expect that there, but...
	Just before we went on the air, they said our rating got downgraded.
	So, pretty darn fucked.
	Ooh.
	I've been hanging around Tim Guy here too long.
	Yeah, I wouldn't.
	Why, does he swear like a sailor?
	Oh, like a 7th grade boy.
	Okay, nice.
	By the way, A lot of people now suspect that the ratings downgrade, which came in Friday after the market closed, was actually leaked.
	Oh, on Thursday.
	That's why the Thursday crash took place.
	And now that it's public knowledge, in other words more than just a few insiders know about it, which is illegal by the way, the Monday market should be quite entertaining.
	So...
	A couple of things here.
	Now, first of all, I think that you and I both agree that the ratings agencies obviously are completely compromised.
	So they sent over this downgrade, and then somebody at Treasury goes...
	You got your numbers wrong.
	It's not right.
	You know, Obama just is like, he's like, hey, you know what?
	Adios, mofo.
	I'm going to go to Camp David for the weekend.
	I'm not going to do anything about it.
	He doesn't care.
	So, you know, this was set up, and I think it can only be one of a couple of reasons.
	One, as I surmised in my prediction, there was a billion dollar hedge out there.
	We reported that someone had bet a billion dollars that the United States would get a downgrade.
	So someone made a ton of money.
	I'm not sure how those instruments work or how it would happen, but that would make sense.
	Two, I think that there's a distinct possibility now that this is a setup for QE3, i.e.
	another quantitative easing that needs to be done by the U.S., And three, it seems, if you would think that all these guys work in collusion with each other, which, of course, just look at the show, it's obvious that it's all one big reality program, that this is probably a setup to have the Bush tax cuts expire and basically raise taxes on everybody.
	Okay.
	Is that it?
	I think that's it.
	I mean...
	Oh, I got more then.
	Oh, good.
	But I just want to hear you, just before we continue, I would just like to hear you say it.
	You're right, Adam.
	Yeah, there you go.
	Well, you're right a lot, so I'm not too concerned about that.
	So I looked into it because I had to figure out...
	Because you don't really have...
	I don't know where you got this idea to begin with.
	I mean, I think your overall analysis is accurate.
	A couple of things that should be noted.
	One, I don't think this has anything to do with QE3 because the reason you did the QE anything was to normalize the...
	The return on investment on Treasury, so the long-term bond had a really low interest rate, and the short-term bond had a really high interest rate, relatively speaking, because you don't want those numbers, you don't want the various short, medium, and long-term to be a flat line across a graph.
	You want it to be a line that goes up.
	And QE3 doesn't need to do that, because right now the market has done it.
	And the bonds are selling just fine, which is why everyone was so surprised by this downgrade.
	So, in other words, these treasury bonds are extremely popular right now in the world.
	Now, so we have to see what's really going on here, and I think there's something more to this, which I also think there's a naivete involved with this.
	Devin Sharma, who's the president of Standard& Poor's, which is owned by McGraw-Hill.
	Who is not the guy, by the way, that is out there.
	A guy named Chambers, which I thought that was the Cisco guy's name.
	John Chambers.
	Where did he come from?
	I looked for his name.
	He's not like, here's the guy who's responsible for the downgrade.
	I don't think so.
	He's not on the report.
	He's not on the board of directors.
	I don't know who this guy is.
	I don't know what you're talking about either, but Paul Coughlin is the guy at Standard& Poor's who's responsible for corporate or government ratings.
	Anyway, but the guy that's been making the most noise is this Devin Charman.
	Here's what I think's happened.
	In January of this year, Devin Sharma, president of Standard & Poor's, wrote a scathing op-ed in the Washington or in the Wall Street Journal, bitching, without really naming names or saying anything, it was just generalized, but he was bitching about government regulation of it was just generalized, but he was bitching about government regulation of the ratings agency because they were taking a hit on all those Right, right, right.
	And so he says you can't go off and just start to regulate, you know, tell us what it is.
	Essentially I think he was saying you can't regulate free speech because they're all claiming that they are just like media and that it's free speech.
	They can say whatever they want about anything.
	It was more along these lines.
	You can't tell us how to do our business.
	Okay, yeah, that's the same thing.
	So, and what he was talking about was Dodd-Frank.
	Right, yeah.
	And he was saying do not pass this Dodd-Frank.
	So Dodd-Frank, you know, gets finalized I think in June and goes through and now it's law.
	And so I started to look at Dodd-Frank because that's the only pertinent piece of legislation he could possibly be complaining about.
	Dodd-Frank, about one third of it.
	Is regulating ratings agencies to the point where they are going to have government tests if you're going to work for them.
	They're going to tell you how to do it.
	Essentially, the government is taking over the ratings agencies.
	Well, it's interesting you say that because when I looked at the websites, because that's kind of where I get my information, I looked at the websites for Moody's, I looked at the website for Fitch and for Standards and Poor's, and all of them have a special news section specifically about how the Dodd-Frank bill affects their business.
	And when you read through it, you're like, you don't get it.
	Because it's like, who understands what they're saying?
	But all of them are pissed off about it because it's top of their news pages.
	They're all pissed off about it.
	Because essentially the government is taking over.
	I mean, essentially, you read through this and tell me I'm wrong.
	Essentially the government is taking over, without taking over, they're essentially going to regulate, they're going to have testing.
	You can't work for one of these agencies.
	You have all these rules and regulations.
	You can't do any consulting.
	There's a million things that they're doing to these rating agencies.
	I believe that Evan was irked about this, and I think all the rating agencies were, but the other ones were too chicken.
	Devin Sharma is an Indian.
	He comes from one of those crazy Indian institutions.
	He's the CEO. He has the kind of...
	Indian Brahmin, and the Indians out there, the two Indians that listen to the show who don't donate, who don't send us money, they maybe don't get some of the intricacies of certain things, and so he basically has the most balls,
	and comes out and basically threatens the government, if you read between the lines on the op-ed, pulls the trigger on the downgrade, which everyone else of us has been Shaking in their boots when he did this, which is why I think he's still vulnerable to the head.
	And then, when they start attacking him with all this bogus crap about, oh, you know, you're not doing it right, he says, Warren's a further cut, front page of today's Sunday Times.
	In other words, oh, really?
	You don't like the double A rating?
	You want a single A, bitches?
	Yeah, no, I'll buy that.
	I totally buy that.
	I'm down with that.
	And honestly, my prediction was purely based on the fact that I think that everyone is all playing along with this game.
	It's all one big corrupt thing.
	And when I saw the billion dollar hedge come out, I'm like, alright, someone's on the inside.
	Someone knows about this.
	It's going to happen.
	That was really the only reason why I called that.
	But I think this...
	What you're saying, having this as a stick, is pretty good.
	And so what will be interesting to see is if...
	Because Moody's can still do a downgrade if they want, right?
	They can all do it.
	They're looking pretty stupid right now.
	Yeah, and there tends to be bandwagon jumping, and they can just point their finger at this Devin guy.
	Now, if I had read Dodd-Frank...
	And I'd read that editorial originally.
	I would have been more than happy to agree with you on this whole thing, knowing that since the day Dodd-Frank...
	When Dodd-Frank passed, it was just before Dodd-Frank finally passed is when you had all these threats, if you don't notice.
	Oh, you know, you can get downgraded, you can get downgraded, you can get downgraded.
	And the government apparently was oblivious to the fact that...
	They're trying to tell him not to pass this thing.
	They passed it, boom, they got downgraded.
	You know, what are you going to do?
	I think there's a possibility of a second downgrade if it's going to continue.
	This guy's really taking a chance.
	So what I thought was kind of interesting is there were two other theories out there.
	One from...
	which showed up on Huffington Post and was tweeted on...
	tweeters all over the place saying, oh, this is real easy.
	Terry McGraw III supports Mitt Romney.
	That's why this is happening.
	I'm like, what?
	So there are people out there, you know, techno experts, tweeting this bullcrap.
	That's a good one.
	And so I actually followed it, like, okay, let me see.
	Nowhere can this be found.
	But, you know, they're saying that there was some kind of stealth company that was created out of Bain, and McGraw has something to do with that, and they donated a million dollars to Romney, and then the company was absolved.
	It's like, wow, man.
	You know, people, the Democrats, who always talk about us being...
	The conspiracy theorists, they're really bad.
	They're disinformationists.
	And then Ron Paul, which, you know, I wish he, if what you had just said had come out of Ron Paul's mouth, I would have been really happy.
	Instead, he said this.
	When we were working on raising the debt limit, over my objection, they were kind of saying, well, if you don't raise the debt limit, we're going to downgrade you.
	So we raised the debt limit, so they downgrade.
	Which means that the spending is not under control.
	But the other thing that bothered me is, I read where S&P said that one of the reasons they downgraded was that we weren't accepting tax increases.
	So there's a lot of confused economic ideas out there, but I think we're in for a lot of trouble, which is what I've been saying for a long time.
	Okay, that part is right, of course, but...
	I'm like, no, really?
	I mean, are you really going to take this seriously?
	That was disappointing to me.
	He should have just said, this is all bogus.
	That's what he should have said.
	That's what he should have said.
	Yeah, he just said, it's all bogus.
	No, he didn't say that, unfortunately.
	What is bogus is this huge psyops campaign that is being run against certainly the American slaves, And the world at large.
	Now, on the last program, we talked about this guy who wrote this New Yorker magazine article.
	What's the name?
	Schmiddle?
	Schmiddle, Schmiddle, Schmiddle.
	What's his first name?
	Is it Schmiddle?
	I think it's Schmiddle.
	Yeah.
	And actually, it's funny because I was making fun of how he wrote this Tom Clancy kind of novel about the attack on Osama bin Laden.
	I was talking about the helicopter pilot of Helos 2, which was filmed from the ground, apparently, Nicholas Schmidl.
	He's like, oh, I had my noise-canceling headsets on.
	All I could hear was the heartbeat of my own heartbeat.
	And I got a couple of emails from airmen, Navy and Marine pilots.
	And they said, you know, we do have noise-canceling headsets, but A, those things suck, and I really wish I had my Dave Clarks back.
	Because you can hear a lot more than just the thumping of your heartbeat.
	So that was kind of funny.
	But this guy, as it turns out, he did a big interview on our National Treasure NPR.
	And even the NPR host, I don't have a clip of it because it's just too stupid, was like, you know, you did all these interviews.
	and you've got all this information and blah, blah, blah.
	They even had to post a retraction, which they only did on their website with one little blurb, saying, just to clarify, Nicholas Schmidl never, ever spoke to any of the Navy SEALs, not a single one.
	And I challenged people to find for me the background on this guy.
	No one sent me any emails, thanks for that.
	But here's what I found out.
	Nicholas Schmidl's father is Marine Corp.
	Lieutenant General Robert E. Schmidl Jr., Deputy Commander of the U.S. Cyber Command.
	What's the Cyber...
	What's the Cyber Command?
	What's the Cyber Command?
	Yeah, it's just another money-sucking scheme from...
	Well, besides that...
	Yeah, but he's always a high...
	You can answer that to any question I ask.
	Yes, that's what I do.
	No, but he's a high-ranking guy.
	This whole thing was completely bogus, obviously.
	Yeah, I think PSYOPs is the word.
	Well, I have a couple more.
	But, of course, what happens is we get this horrible report that a Chinook CH-47E, which is a really big aircraft, was shot down by Taliban, of course, the mystical, magical Taliban, and on board...
	We're the team members of Navy Team Seal 6 who did the Osama Bin Laden raid.
	I mean, could you come up with a better two-to-the-head scenario than that?
	You know, it was like, you know, we got all this stuff.
	We've got to make people believe that this really happened.
	There's something else I found.
	So there's this movie, The People Who Made the Hurt Locker.
	What are their names again?
	Let me see.
	I've got it here.
	Let me find it for you.
	You know, the Hurt Locker, right?
	Yeah, the Hurt Locker.
	Didn't that win the Academy Award?
	Yeah, it did.
	So those two filmmakers have been given unprecedented access to the CIA and special ops by the president directly.
	And they're actually showing up in meetings.
	They're taking meetings with the CIA to make this movie about the killing of Bin Laden.
	Oh, God.
	Yeah.
	Oh, yeah.
	So, of course, this happens, and immediately the tweeters are all alive.
	Everyone's freaking out, like, oh, and, of course, I get a million emails saying, well, there you go.
	That's how you get rid of evidence.
	Yeah, and I'm in total agreement on that.
	So they roll out as many guys as they can, and you'll hear that this guy is a total nincompoop douche nozzle who knows nothing.
	He doesn't know anything.
	His only message is to say not a single one of the Navy SEAL Team 6 members was on that chopper.
	That is the only reason why he's being brought on to this news program.
	Good morning to you, Jack.
	Well, good morning.
	Okay, this is some pretty serious testimonies.
	He's a colonel, retired colonel, right?
	Jack Jacobs.
	Hey, Jack Jacobs, everybody, in the morning here to give you some PSYOPs information.
	Stand by.
	Jeff, give me an update on what we know.
	Well, we think it's probably an MH-47E. It's the kind of CH-47 twin-rotored helicopter that's frequently used in special operations.
	The report from Hamid Karzai was that it was...
	By the way, I don't believe that that's true.
	This is not an aircraft you use for special operations.
	This is like an aircraft carrier in the sky.
	It's like you want to let people know that you're coming?
	You're not going to fly a Chinook 47.
	But okay, let's continue to listen.
	A special operations helicopter.
	And it was engaged in an operation against a built-up area.
	The Taliban has claimed responsibility for shooting it down, but it's not clear whether or not it was shot down or it just crashed.
	You remember when our operation went against Osama bin Laden, one of the helicopters there, its rotor clipped the wall inside the compound.
	Oh, really?
	Well, this is new.
	So we went from Vortex Ring State, which incorrectly Nicholas Schmidl called settling with power, to one of the rotors clipped a wall and that's why they crashed.
	Yeah, but there was even a pre-story to the Vortex story.
	What was that?
	Which is the motor or something crapped out because it was a stealth device.
	Which I think is the truth.
	I think they had all this gear hanging off of it.
	This guy didn't have enough power.
	But for this guy to say this means that either A, he's really on the inside and knows something that happened.
	But I don't believe so because it's not like a toy helicopter where the rotor clipped the chair in the living room and it just falls down.
	If you clip a rotor, everything's going to disintegrate.
	This thing is just, you know, your rotor blades will fly in all directions.
	You'll have people being, I mean, that's a horrible, horrible thing when you, when a rotor blade hits, actually hits something.
	So that's not true, because the profile of the accident, what we know of it, does not show that.
	So I'm just going to call this guy bullcrap on the guy.
	It's easy to shoot these helicopters down, but they also crash with great ease.
	That's why we use them in Special Ops, because it's easy to shoot them down.
	45 will take one out.
	Yeah!
	Slingshot!
	Got it.
	Thirty-eight people killed in one crash.
	One incident is a huge number.
	Where are we getting the information about the helicopter being shot down?
	Well, that's coming straight from the Taliban.
	Yeah, the Taliban news network.
	The Taliban claims responsibility for every casualty and every helicopter, every aircraft that's lost, and every mechanical malfunction, Taliban claims responsibility for it.
	But it's Not outside the realm of possibility that, in fact, they are responsible for it.
	Helicopters are extremely...
	Alright, get to the point, Jake.
	...vulnerable, especially when they're landing and taking off.
	They're going zero miles an hour.
	Oh, let me...
	I've got to stop.
	Not true.
	So this guy actually thinks helicopters take off vertically all the time.
	Like...
	Like an elevator.
	No.
	Helicopters actually get into something called translational lift...
	Transitional lift, I'm sorry.
	And they fly with forward speed, and once they have the transition, then they pull up and then they go up.
	So they are actually probably doing 30 to 40 knots.
	So this is not true.
	The guy doesn't know what he's talking about.
	But he's there for a reason.
	They're easy to shoot down on or near the ground with small arms and automatic weapons.
	I have to with a.45.
	There you have it, John.
	He just shot it down with a.40.
	It's easy.
	With rocket-propelled grenades, which are typically used against ground stationary targets, and even with shoulder-fired anti-aircraft missiles, many of which we gave to the Taliban years ago when they were fighting the Russians.
	It remains to be seen right now whether or not it crashed or was shot down.
	Right now the word is that it crashed, but at the end of the day it doesn't really matter.
	You've lost 37 lives, 38 lives.
	Absolutely.
	I thought I had on this clip that he said...
	How come he can't get the number right?
	He's an idiot.
	Isn't that kind of weird?
	He's a total idiot.
	And then somewhere he said that it was absolutely not the Navy SEAL 6 team.
	I guess I don't have that clip here.
	Anyway, and of course the President came out with a brief statement saying we're very sorry for the lives lost, which he does not do typically.
	There are 10 people a week getting killed in Afghanistan, still getting killed in Iraq.
	He doesn't typically write a little note, a little press release.
	Maybe he has to tell the rest of the guys to shut up.
	Possibly.
	But here's what I stumbled across this morning, and now I know...
	There's got to be other people that know if the whole thing was phonied up.
	There has to be other people that are in the loop.
	Oh, lots of people.
	I think you're absolutely right.
	Shut up, or this could happen to you.
	But it hurts me to think that that actually could happen, that someone...
	It says, you know, like, well, we've got to get this story out there.
	We've got to get people believe in this Bin Laden thing.
	We've got the movie lined up.
	We've got Nicholas Schmidl.
	We've got him writing a beautiful thing that everyone's buying into.
	He's doing the rounds.
	And now, you know what, but we've still got some guys.
	We've got to shut them up.
	And someone actually had a meeting and said, well, I know what we can do.
	Let's kill them.
	It's hard for me to think that that's actually a meeting that took place, but okay.
	Well, I mean, we can assume either that it was an out-and-out accident and just a coincidence.
	It's possible.
	Coincidence?
	I think not!
	I don't think so.
	And again, they used special Blackhawks for their Bin Laden raid.
	Why all of a sudden are we using Chinook 47Es?
	It's a huge aircraft.
	There's 40 people on board.
	Yeah, that's for special ops.
	Big twin rotors.
	One of the things the size of a football field.
	Yeah, it's really big.
	So the psyops, though, really hit me this morning.
	As I'm looking at C-SPAN, I'm looking at cspan.org, and there's this woman, Catherine Herod.
	Herod or Herod?
	Let me see what her name is.
	I think it's Herod.
	And, uh, Herod.
	Sorry, Herod.
	And she has a book out, and she was on the C-SPAN call-in show, which, by the way, has also now been completely compromised, as you'll hear in these couple of clips I have.
	And she's written a book called...
	What is it?
	Why can't I find the name of this book?
	She mentions it.
	And she is the one that apparently wrote the article.
	She works for Fox News.
	And she's a hottie.
	I mean, she's kind of like Peter Pan looking.
	That's one mother.
	I liked her.
	She's got really short, cropped hair.
	What's your name?
	Catherine Herridge.
	You'll like her immediately.
	She's hot.
	But in kind of a very crazy...
	I mean, you look at her, you go like, nutball.
	If you met her in a bar, you'd walk away.
	You're like, okay, she's going to put the shiv in my back when I'm not looking.
	Oh, yeah, yeah, I've seen her before.
	Or I'll wake up and in lipstick on the mirror it says, you know, I've taken your kidneys and you're in a bathtub full of ice.
	She actually looks like she works for an agency.
	Well, she does.
	And she's written this book.
	And it's a complete psyop.
	She's the one that reported that Anwar Al-Awlaki, a.k.a.
	Adam Gadon, was at the Pentagon for a luncheon in 2002.
	So after 9-11.
	She's the one that reported on it.
	And when this came out, we were like, wow, how did this news come out?
	And how does this woman from Fox get this information?
	Well, she is an agent.
	And when you see her talk, and you can find the links in the show notes at 328.nashownotes.com, You get hypnotized by just looking at her.
	She's really, really good.
	But she rolls out a meme fest, John.
	This first clip, I guarantee you, four new domain names will be registered and point to NoAgendaShow.com when you hear this.
	Check it out.
	The name of the book is The Next Wave.
	Yes, that's it.
	On the hunt for Al-Qaeda's, or as the New York Times says, Kaida.
	Kaida.
	American recruits.
	Yeah.
	This is all about the homegrown lone wolf that we have to be afraid of now.
	and listen to her memes I went to the courtroom, I take you to Fort Hood, San Diego, parts of Virginia to investigate this new generation.
	I call it Al-Qaeda 2.0.
	There is sort of a tension in the book between who's in control, us or the terrorists, because what we see with this new generation is that they're really using our technology against us in a way that we never saw a decade ago.
	I call them the new digital jihadists.
	Ha ha ha.
	So we have digital jihadists, Al-Qaeda 2.0.
	And the person at the center of that is this American in Yemen called Anwar al-Awlaki.
	So she's pushing Anwar al-Awlaki as the number one guy.
	This is what I told you, is that we have the other dude, the old dude, but he's not being positioned as number one by our intelligence sources, which is Catherine Herridge clearly is.
	It's all about this guy, because he's also an agent.
	This is the whole setup.
	And this is someone who, whether he's emailing or he's blogging or his lectures are on YouTube, he's kind of like the Facebook friend from hell.
	God, the Facebook friend from hell!
	Oh yeah!
	Oh yeah, she's good!
	And that's how he spreads this ideology of hate.
	Yeah, she's very, very good.
	So, she has callers.
	And I think half of them are fake, and some of them get by and are real.
	But the intent is to roll out every single theory we've spoken about on a show like ours, and to debunk it without actually answering the question.
	So, here she is talking about how she broke the story of Anwar al-Awlaki attending and speaking at a luncheon at the Pentagon.
	Good morning.
	Hi.
	I would say the most insidious thing is when the media refuses to look at the actual history of things, refuses once reports that Anwar al-Awlaki is dying at the Pentagon after 9-11 and then refuses to follow it up and now is beating the drum for this homegrown terrorism, which is really where these attacks were really directed at demonizing the American people and the very idea of freedom.
	So I wish you would straighten out some of these obvious contradictions in the story about this supposed new Emanuel Goldstein character, Anwar al-Awlaki.
	We all understand around the world, anyone who's looked into it, that these have been myths perpetrated on the United States.
	9-11 was a PSYOP dedicated at reducing our ability to be sovereign individuals and sovereign nations.
	And while this is going on, she's looking straight at the camera, no emotion.
	So I think this was a set-up call.
	That guy sounds way too good.
	He hits all the points.
	And to me, he's using all the conspiracy theorist words, you know, PSYOPs operation, 9-11 PSYOPs operation.
	Which, of course, it was, but that's not the point.
	I think this guy is a shill, and here's how she answers it.
	Well, I'm glad you asked that question because...
	I'm glad you asked that question because it was in the script!
	I was the reporter who broke that story about Anwar al-Awlaki's lunch at the Pentagon.
	As you probably know because you've been following it, that was in February of 2002.
	And what I show in the book through documents that we obtained through the Freedom of Information Act That he was the guest of the Office of General Counsel and that nearly 80 people were invited to that lunch.
	What I think is important here is that it shows to me a pattern.
	At that time, Anwar al-Awlaki was sort of like an Imam around town here in Washington and was sort of fetid as a moderate Muslim.
	But what I argue in the book is that the evidence was to the contrary.
	For example, I reveal documents that show that right after 9-11, in that first eight days, he was interviewed at least four times by the FBI. So there was this sort of split view of him here in Washington at the very least.
	On the one hand, people were highly suspicious.
	Of his contacts with three of the nine hijackers on flight 77.
	And then on the other hand, he was seen as sort of a moderate and go-to guy to sort of build a bridge between that world and the United States.
	And what I would also add, and I think you'll find interesting, is that for me, writing about that lunch at the Pentagon was really upsetting on many levels.
	Because when you look at Anwar al-Awlaki's It was with three of the five hijackers on Flight 77, and that was the flight that slammed into the Pentagon.
	So when Ammar al-Awlaki was invited back there to lunch as a guest speaker on Islam and politics, to me it was like a thief returning to the scene of the crime.
	And you could imagine someone like Awlaki walking the corridors of that building and in some respects marveling at the destruction that his guys were responsible for.
	She's really building it up there, isn't she?
	Really doing a good job.
	No, I think it's great.
	So who was Emanuel Goldstein?
	Because there was a reference to that.
	The caller called him an Emanuel Goldstein character.
	Who was that?
	I don't know.
	I mean, let me look it up.
	But the only Emanuel Goldstein I know ran the 2600 operation, which was a hacker's journal.
	Well, hold on a second.
	He's fairly famous for that, but I don't think they're talking about him.
	So, who was it then?
	I don't know.
	Why don't you look that up, and I will continue with Miss Catherine Herridge, the spy from hell.
	Oh, he's a character in the George Orwell novel.
	Oh, of course.
	In 1984, he's the number one enemy of the people.
	He's the villain, right.
	Of course.
	Oh, all right.
	Okay.
	So here she is rolling out the...
	Wait a minute, hold on a second.
	Isn't that kind of an obscure, coded...
	Reference?
	Yeah, of course.
	Reference?
	Of course, this is why...
	Because this guy was a fake caller.
	I'm like, alright, throw in a 1984.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Hey, kid, research that.
	Uh, Emanuel Goldstein.
	Yeah, that'll work.
	Who is that?
	Eh, I don't know.
	Put up, throw up a wiki page, quick, so people can look him up.
	Weird, huh?
	Well...
	I don't use that word.
	Not really.
	Alright, well, listen to...
	Now, of course, because she's positioning Anwar al-Awlaki, Adam Gadon, as we've promised to call him.
	And I do believe, by the way, before we go on, I'm 100% with you that he is an agent.
	Oh, yeah.
	The same as possibly Bin Laden.
	Bin Laden, yeah, of course.
	Of course.
	And you need to get a new guy in there.
	It's got to be that guy, not the other guy, because that other guy...
	He's the real deal.
	He's canon.
	He's the real deal.
	Yeah.
	He's actually Al-Qaeda or something like that, or advertising.
	I don't know what he is.
	But it's no good because he's not on the payroll.
	He's not playing along with the game.
	So we have to set up Al-Qaeda as a huge, huge thing.
	Now how do we do that?
	We've heard this meme propagated several times.
	We have to compare it to a Fortune 500 company.
	That's how you really frighten people about this mystical Al-Qaeda thing.
	That's a good question.
	One of the things I lay out in the book is really where the war on terror is going next.
	And I think if you want to understand where it's going and probably what it's going to take to win it, this would be a book you want to get.
	I love that, by the way.
	Hey, this is the book you want to get.
	This is a great book.
	I wrote it.
	It's good!
	What we know is that terrorism in many respects is like water.
	It takes the path of least resistance.
	And we're dealing with the thinking enemies.
	So you move one way and it moves another.
	And what we've seen since 9-11 is that Al-Qaeda, which was traditionally in Pakistan, we now see these franchise operations which have popped up in Yemen, which is where it has been American, and also in Somalia.
	And then you have this homegrown component.
	So in many respects, The threat is more complex and it's more diverse because on 9-11, Al-Qaeda was like a Fortune 500 company with Osama Bin Laden as the CEO. Yeah, It's just like that.
	He had a corner office with walnut.
	You think that's what he had?
	The CEO?
	It's just like that.
	Exactly the same.
	If you ever went into a large corporation, you'd see it was exactly the same as this.
	Bull crap.
	And now it's much more of a franchise operation.
	And I know since bin Laden's death, there are three areas.
	That's really like McDonald's.
	Yeah, it's exactly what it is.
	Billions served.
	Billions killed.
	Brought to you by Al-Qaeda Franchise.
	...that the U.S. intelligence community is looking at very hard.
	Number one, were there plots in the pipeline before his death?
	Number two, will homegrown, I'll say, or sleeper cells use his death as a justification to launch attacks as we get towards the 10th anniversary of 9-11?
	Or will these affiliates in countries like Somalia and Yemen kind of step up To fill the void.
	So, I don't think it's as simple as we pull down troops or resources from one area and then we can bring it into the United States.
	Unfortunately, the people who are making decisions on these issues right now really face some very tough challenges.
	Oh, okay.
	So...
	Wait a minute.
	You know she says...
	I mentioned McDonald's and she says supercells, which brings to mind supersize.
	Supersize.
	Yeah, supersize.
	Absolutely.
	Good one.
	Good catch.
	Just kind of a borderline mean.
	It sounds like something you're familiar with.
	Hey, could I have one Al-Qaeda McNugget to go?
	What the hell's a supercell?
	Supercell!
	That's also used in the tornado movies.
	Oh God, here comes another supercell.
	Nothing could be more deadly.
	All we're missing is they're saying, it's really hot!
	Hot Pockets!
	We got a Hot Pocket Supercell.
	What is a Supercell?
	I would have stopped her right there and asked her, what the hell is a Supercell?
	Oh, no.
	This woman who was interviewing her, she has a script.
	And you have to watch the whole thing.
	It's like 40 minutes.
	And I could have played it as an end-of-show clip and we would have just sat here laughing the whole time.
	But it's even better if you go to 328.nashownotes.com and watch the whole thing.
	Because she's interesting to look at.
	And she has this kind of, you know, this...
	Yeah, this hypnotic-type quality about her, which is just highly entertaining.
	So, two more short clips.
	Here she is.
	Of course, now we need to shift the conversation from the supercells and the former Fortune 500 company led by CEO Bin Laden to the homegrown terror, and we need some proof that this is real!
	Yes, ma'am.
	It's called Problem Reaction Solution.
	So this guy, I think, actually is a real caller.
	So he calls in and says, you know, this is Problem Reaction Solution.
	This is, you know, this is, again, it's a psyops question.
	So it could be fake, but he sounded real.
	And then, of course, he's going to thank him for this excellent question and answer it in a way that proves that we're all stupid.
	Okay, let's get a response from our guest.
	Right.
	Thank you for the question.
	One of the things I lay out in this book is documentation that the Justice Department has gathered over the last couple of years and what you see in that is that there has been a documented case of homegrown terrorism and these are cases involving American citizens with some type of tie to an international terrorist organization every two to three weeks since about January of 2009.
	So the numbers People ask me, how many people are there within the United States?
	I can't tell you that, but I can tell you what these cases are.
	And you see these cases following a couple of different patterns.
	One, these are American citizens who have traveled overseas, for example, to Pakistan or to Yemen to get training.
	Perhaps one of the most famous cases is the Times Square bomber, Faisal Shahzad.
	This was a young man who traveled to Pakistan.
	He got his training from the Taliban.
	He came back to the United States.
	He drove an SUV into Times Square, and he thought he had a viable explosive device.
	And many counterterrorism officials will say to you that they actually believe that was a successful attack against the United States.
	That was a successful...
	It was like some smoke coming out of his exhaust.
	That was a successful attack and she actually passes that off as like a fact?
	It's the truth!
	Successful attack, successful attack, successful...
	That was a successful attack?
	That was a successful attack, so...
	How many people did it kill?
	Shut up!
	What exploded?
	It was a successful attack.
	That was a bonehead.
	If he farted, it would have been more successful.
	Whoa.
	Aromatic poo.
	Throwback.
	The only thing that sort of saved us in that situation was the fact that the bomb did not detonate.
	It couldn't detonate.
	Am I crazy?
	Am I remembering this wrong?
	But he had, like, none of the ingredients.
	It was just, like, smoldering.
	Yeah, no, it was all fucked up.
	Yeah.
	Ooh.
	Ooh, John.
	Easy.
	And then there are other cases where you see people launch these attacks, but they haven't had training overseas.
	They are sort of kind of do-it-yourself operations at home.
	Yeah.
	Oh, I know.
	I'm a do-it-yourself.
	Look.
	Do-it-yourself operation at home.
	That's right.
	Hey!
	Hey, Daddy!
	I got an idea.
	Let's do something fun today.
	I got a new hobby.
	In some of these cases, we've intercepted them or disrupted them through FBI sting operations.
	Like the case last year, the young man who tried to detonate a car bomb at a Christmas tree lighting ceremony.
	It was an idiot who was set up A moron that was goaded.
	Let's get it right.
	You have Fort Hood, where, in my opinion, it's not an accident that you had this email relationship between the alleged shooter, Major Nadal Hassan, and Anwar al-Awlaki.
	In a lot of ways, Anwar al-Awlaki is like the dear Abby of the jihadist world.
	I love it.
	The dear Abby of the jihadist world.
	Because, you know, if you feel like, if you're down and out, you don't feel good.
	Hey, man.
	People have problems or questions about their faith or their motivation.
	I need some motivation.
	Dear Abby Anwar Al-Awlaki, I, lonesome squirrel in Tennessee.
	The woman slays me with all these great, great little analogies.
	It's fantastic.
	She is way, way good.
	Alright, so finally then to wrap it up and I'll get off of it.
	She talks about how she came in possession of these documents that has proof.
	It's all in the book, by the way.
	She came in possession.
	Yeah, listen how she came in possession of it.
	Go where the facts lead, and I would argue in this book that what you see is real boots-on-the-ground reporting in a way that...
	She does boots-on-the-ground reporting.
	That's how good she is.
	You haven't often seen in other ways.
	For example, in the book, I get this al-Qaeda tape from the group in Yemen, and I think people would be surprised to learn that in the process of getting that tape, first of all...
	The operative wanted $30,000 for that tape.
	We don't pay at Fox for tapes.
	But I'm just telling you that number because it gives you an idea of one of the ways they try and raise money.
	Well, let me get this straight.
	So Al-Qaeda makes tapes and then tries to finance their terrorist actions by selling that to Fox.
	Okay.
	I just want to make sure I heard it properly.
	Take that one over to Kleiner Perkins.
	Number two, when I ultimately got this message from Anwar Al-Awlaki, it was buried in a file-sharing website that was filled with pornography.
	Oh, I bet you like that, Pixie!
	So they use these sites to transmit their messages because they're under the false belief that law enforcement can't go to these sites, or government computers can't go to these sites.
	And the other thing I'd say about this tape is that...
	Maybe we just like those sites.
	Yeah, that's why we go to them.
	Okay, now here, this is the funniest thing, and then I'll shut up about her.
	She's going to be all over the place.
	You watch.
	She's going to be on every single news channel.
	You know what?
	If she goes overboard like this with way too many memes and she's a little too slick, I'm not sure that that's true.
	You know, John, it's hubris.
	It's just brazen, outlandishness.
	We've got this movie coming out.
	We've got whoever is paying Schmidl.
	It's theater.
	It's just theater.
	I understand that, but it's just like, it's a little...
	John, no one in the media is doing what we do.
	No one is calling anyone on this.
	And this woman from C-SPAN is just sitting there going like, oh yeah, oh yeah, porn, yeah.
	We had it analyzed by a forensic audio analyst, and what he said to us is that something called reverb...
	Something called reverb?
	Have you ever heard of this amazing thing, John, that this analyst discovered on the tape?
	Something called reverb?
	What?
	Yeah, something called reverb.
	Yeah, the analyst found that there was something called reverb.
	Reverb.
	And what does that mean?
	They were running through a 1970s quadraphonic sound system?
	I mean, what were they talking about?
	Well, it's fakery.
	This is how Al-Qaeda does it.
	Oh, the reverb makes it fake?
	Oh, yeah, listen.
	Did it analyze?
	Did they ever listen to a Mexican radio station?
	Or truckers on CB, for that matter.
	Right.
	I'm a realistic audio analyst, and what he said to us is that something called reverb had been added to the tape.
	So when you listen to the tape, it sounded like a locky was in this giant mosque speaking to 10,000 people, and it had this sense of grandeur to it.
	But in fact, he was probably in a closet with his computer taping this thing.
	In a closet!
	With reverb.
	Why does she have to go to a closet?
	Because she's psyops.
	This is how you do it.
	You build up this whole thing.
	It's all for imagery.
	Oh my goodness.
	Anyway, be on the lookout for this woman.
	She's very funny.
	And she's pleasant to look at in a very disturbing kind of way.
	Because you're looking like, you feel uneasy.
	Yeah, you know, they used to have a woman on CNN who took, who, they kicked Lou years and years ago in the 90s.
	Bobby Batista.
	No.
	Oh.
	Willow Bay.
	Oh, yeah, I remember her.
	Yeah, sure, Willow Bay.
	What happened to her?
	Well, she was, like, shacked up with one of the executives, supposedly.
	I mean, this is what it's alleged.
	And that's why she got this million-dollar job, and they kicked Lou Dobbs off the air.
	We put her in charge and the ratings just tanked.
	And then they took her off and she never got work again or she doesn't care or she's loaded, I don't know.
	But she was, I know some guys who met her and they thought she was that same kind of creepy way that this other woman is.
	But she just disappeared.
	I don't know how to look her up.
	She's a blonde version of the same girl.
	Right.
	So anyway...
	So it's the same pixie look, the same weird eyes.
	Yeah, the eyes would really freak me out.
	You just look at those eyes and she's telling you all this.
	I'm like, yes, I am now.
	I need to go to the closet with some reverb, with some porn, make a tape.
	What is she saying?
	Like, Al-Qaeda is in the...
	Hold on, here's why Willow Bay never heard of her again.
	I hate to change the...
	She was married to Robert Iger.
	Oh, the Disney guy.
	Or she still is.
	She's married to him now.
	I guess she's American correspondent, editor, author, former model, and wife of Walt Disney CEO Iger.
	Currently a senior editor at HuffPost.
	Oh, okay.
	So she's still continuing her little shenanigans.
	Editor at HuffPost.
	She's the exact same age as this other woman, basically, within a year.
	Well, that's what you do.
	That's the payoff you get when you're an N.K. Ultra special presidential model.
	You go work for the guy at Disney, and you pleasure him after your service.
	And then you get on the back burner, and you work for HuffPost.
	Anyway, I just thought that was incredibly amusing, and it brought a smile to my face this morning.
	I thought, you know, if they continue on this track of trying to psychologically control people into believing this whole Al-Qaeda, Taliban, lone wolf crap, we'll have material for years to come.
	Oh yeah, we'll get material for years to come anyway.
	We do need to thank some producers.
	Yes, let's thank some.
	Today's show is brought to you by...
	Actually, I should start off with one of our producers from Nashville.
	Yeah, we have one who apparently just decided to become a knight, and he came right up to you and says, Here, knight me.
	Even better than that, so this is Patrick Coble, and he came up with...
	Crimes with Scoble.
	That's right, but it's a totally different guy, believe me.
	This guy rides a Ducati 1180cc or something.
	It's like this amazing bike.
	Yeah, I get you down the street.
	Oh yeah.
	And he actually brought the decals that are now proudly displayed on the side of the Duchess.
	If you've not seen it, I tweeted a picture on the tweeters.
	And it's really nice.
	Did you see it with all the different URLs on it?
	Yeah, the URLs are places.
	It's like chemtrails.me, seanhannity.com, noagendatour.com, noagendatour, noagendashow.com, fantastic.
	And so we knighted him on the spot at the Big Bang Bar, which we'll talk about in a moment, in Nashville, with a drumstick as he knelt before me, and he became a knight.
	And I would actually just like to read...
	Did you get grease all over him?
	What kind of a drum?
	Oh, I see what you're saying.
	Yeah, right.
	I'd like to read this note.
	Adam and John, first off, thanks for the best podcast ever!
	Your podcast has changed my outlook on everything.
	I was already a self-radicalizing right-wing libertarian, but now because of you, I'm a right-wing lone wolf terrorist.
	This is not a good letter, Robert.
	I did two years in Iraq and the Marines and saw the wackness of the war firsthand and the government waste of every contract there.
	I was saving for the 333 Club, but when I heard about the Hot Pockets Tour 2008, I knew this would be my chance to become a knight.
	Now listen to this, John.
	I'm an IT nerd and I first heard your podcast at a three-letter government agency.
	I hope this donation helps you in your time of need with the tour and the crappy economy due to the government filled to the ceiling with shills.
	Now, I'm not going to tell you which three-letter agency it was because I need to protect him a little bit because he asked me not to tell you.
	But he had never heard of the show.
	He...
	This is one of the few people, I believe, who didn't come to the show through you.
	But they were actually playing no agenda at a three-letter agency in the cubicles on speakers.
	And laughing and hooting and hollering.
	And he's like, what is this?
	This is great!
	What is this?
	Who are these crazy guys?
	This is great!
	So this makes me feel so warm all over.
	This is what's happening.
	We've got our people deep inside the system.
	I love it!
	And they're all IT guys, so they one push of the button.
	I'm telling you, be very afraid of us.
	I'm going to get back in the closet now with my reverb.
	BEEP BEEP Anyway, so we'll be knighting Patrick later on, and it was great to do that on site.
	That was a lot of fun.
	So we have a second knight coming up today from Chesapeake, Virginia.
	Another Virginia.
	Another Virginia guy.
	Craig Porter.
	In the morning, Adam and John just wanted to help out the Hot Pockets 2008 tour, complete my knighthood, and get my podcast license.
	I figured if I buy one of the...
	Let me just skip that part...
	I'll contribute to the only bastion of real news in the world.
	I'd like to send some karma to my old buddies from the USS Philadelphia SSN 690.
	Which was decommissioned recently in Portsmouth, Virginia.
	Here we go.
	Let's give them some karma.
	You've got karma.
	Some of the best guys I've ever known in my life.
	Wish them the best like to say, have a great day, but I'll say, watch out for the shills.
	Thanks, Craig Porter, my other donation show, 305, which is accounting, which brings me to knighthood today.
	William Arcand and Black Knight, or Black Knight Bill Arcand, actually, Drake it.
	Is it Drake?
	I think so.
	Drake it.
	Massachusetts.
	Another place near the epicenter.
	Hi, John and Adam.
	Thanks for providing us with AAA information in a AA plus world.
	Good line.
	Like S&P made a calculation error.
	My last donation completed my double knighthood since it is my birthday tomorrow on 8-8.
	I figured what better gift to receive than the gift of the no agenda.
	Keep up the good fight, Sir William.
	Joseph Frost in Wooddale, Illinois, in your neck of the woods, a member of the 328 Club, $328.
	Hope to see Adam at the Palantine meetup.
	Can I buy you and Mickey a beer?
	How about buying me a tank of gas?
	May I have 2X karma for myself and a co-worker in hopes of getting out of our American dream jobs and to better prospects for ourselves?
	Yeah, so the way we're going to do karma is I hit the karma and John, you hit the bell to double it up.
	You've got karma.
	Does that work?
	Mm-hmm.
	Um...
	And then to have Associate Executive Producer Brian Barrow, Wooten Bassett, Wiltshire, UK. Hi, John and Adam.
	Here's some money for fuel.
	Keep up the excellent work.
	Lovely.
	Lovely, lovely, lovely.
	Then a couple of PR mentions.
	By the way, of course, we want to thank our executive producers and associate executive producers for contributing to the show.
	You've got to reprogram that in your brain, obviously.
	Here we go.
	This is actually quite interesting.
	This is from James, who runs Vajazzling.com.
	Remember the bejazzling vibe?
	Yeah, the vibe that never really took off.
	I'm writing to request for some karma, also to announce my latest PR effort for No Agenda.
	So here's what's going on.
	A site that I spent over two years developing, which I would rather not mention.
	I think it's one of these sites that has dubious content that people like to look at if you're hiding jihadist documents.
	Had its content stolen and posted on some other blog spot, Google-owned blog spot websites, the content thief has been traced to somewhere in China and has posted at least 20 or more similar sites, all with my content.
	or more similar sites, all with my content.
	This has caused my Google rankings to tank.
	This has caused my Google rankings to tank.
	As a result, my income has dropped about 90%.
	As a result, my income has dropped about 90%.
	I spent about two months filling out crappy forms and trying to get Google to shut these sites down, but Google will not help, and it's impossible to get a hold of a real human being.
	So we'd like some karma for that.
	I'd like to do that first of all, and then give you the PR.
	You've got karma.
	So what I've done, since this idiot in China is pulling the images directly from my server, I've decided to change the image to No Agenda Show Art.
	And he sent some links to all of these stolen websites.
	And it's like, it's all No Agenda.
	It's great.
	Good idea, by the way.
	Really good idea.
	Love that.
	So thank you, James.
	Hope the karma helps.
	Another couple of domain names that are forwarding to NoAgendaShow.com.
	Al-QaedaIPO.com.
	Yes, it couldn't get any more.
	Okurant.
	So alqaedaipo.com now pointing to noagendashow.com.
	Then we have the No Agenda Donation guy who's always been there to help us out.
	Please go to noagendadonation.com.
	He has buttons, clear buttons, no text, all money is directed to our PayPal links.
	And this is a great banner.
	You can go and get it from there and you can stick it on one of your Chinese stolen websites as well.
	Appreciate that.
	I'm still getting over the head cold.
	And then finally, this is beautiful.
	And I don't know how...
	It's one thing to be in Wikipedia.
	It's another thing to be in the Urban Dictionary.
	And, of course, we're already in the Urban Dictionary, although not mentioned by name, with In the Morning.
	There's another new entry.
	The entry is for Adios Mofo.
	In the Urban Dictionary, a popular sign-off when closing for television interviews or podcasts.
	The phrase originally became an internet sensation after Texas Governor Rick Perry used the phrase as a sign-off, closing goodbye to a television reporter.
	During the hype for Perry's speculation of running for U.S. President in 2012, it was used by a popular podcast, No Agenda, with Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak.
	The phrase generally means goodbye, mother...
	This phrase is the exact opposite of in the morning.
	Adios, mofo.
	I think that's awesome to be in the Urban Dictionary.
	And that's good.
	We need more of our memes in there.
	Yeah.
	I mean, is it that easy to submit?
	Is no one watching what's going on over there?
	We got one for the Dvorak Uncensored blog called Embiggin.
	Oh, Embiggin is how you make the picture bigger, right?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, that's cool.
	I like that.
	They got in.
	All right, so we thank our producers.
	Of course, we have more Hot Pockets producers to thank in a little bit.
	And also thanks to Patrick Coble, to William Arcand, our executive producers, Joseph Frost, 328, and executive producer Brian Barrow, who is an associate executive producer.
	Again, we highly appreciate all of your support for the program.
	And everyone else out there who just wants to help, as you're getting by, you can do one thing with our formula.
	Our formula is this.
	We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
	New world order.
	Say it like you mean it, everybody.
	Shut up, please.
	We go out, please.
	you you you Thank you.
	So, Johnny Boy, I'm still in the RV. Yeah?
	And we're still on the road with this Hot Pockets 2008 tour.
	I've said it before and I'll say it again.
	I don't think this is the best publicity we've ever had for this show.
	You should just stay on the road.
	You don't like it in L.A. anyway.
	You know, if the donations don't move up, it's going to be about all I can afford is an RV. Well, that's good.
	Yeah, that's a start.
	Have you ever seen the Lucy show, the Ricky Ricardo, Lucy O'Ball, the long, long trailer?
	Have you ever seen that?
	I think I put it in the show notes.
	It's an episode about an hour and a half and they buy a mobile home and it's hilarious because it is Adam and Mickey in the mobile home.
	It is us.
	In fact, I'm even going, that's ridiculous!
	It's a good episode.
	I vaguely remember that.
	It's a very, very funny episode.
	Everything that happens in that show has pretty much...
	We park on the hill and stuff is...
	It's like a bump in my head.
	Everything is in it.
	It's really good.
	So anyway, last time we spoke, John, I was in the thousand degree heat of Nashville, Tennessee.
	And after the show, we had our Nashville meetup.
	And this was in the Big Bang Bar where Jeff Smith performs every single, I think almost every single night, which is great.
	We had a fantastic time.
	People came in from Memphis.
	And you know, Lone Squirrel, who does these fantastic remixes of every No Agenda episode, he came in from Paducah.
	Paducah, Kentucky!
	So he brought me a bag with Paducah on it, and you know what was in the bag?
	Paducah.
	In the bag he had blankets and water.
	And I have to say, that meetup was the most original meetup we've done to date.
	Dave Selden, and I think it's Dave and his lovely wife Deb, they had made like 20 tinfoil hats, but like really good ones with like little antennas on it and shit.
	Oops, sorry, didn't mean to say that.
	And so we were all wearing our tinfoil hats.
	They had brownies, Rice Krispie treats, all with little Hot Pockets No Agenda trivia questions on little baggies.
	And it was just absolutely outstanding.
	And I think we had probably 28, 29 people there.
	Jeff Smith, the Jeff Smith, Sir Jeff, created a brand new song, which I think on the pre-show you heard just the tail end of it, Living the American Dream.
	Did you hear any of that or not?
	Yeah, yeah, no, it's great.
	It's a beautiful song.
	I heard him do it.
	It's on YouTube, too.
	You should have a link to it.
	Yeah, I have it linked in my blog post and also on the HotPockets2008.com website.
	Really, really good.
	It was just a beautiful evening.
	We had tons of fun talking.
	I think our one black listener showed up, and of course I promptly forgot his name.
	So it was nice, and he's like, yeah, man, you guys are the best.
	You're right on it.
	I'm representing my community.
	Yeah.
	And it was just, it was awesome.
	It was a really, really, really good meetup.
	And as I said, extremely creative.
	Vicki Poole was there, who has been a supporter, a $5 supporter for years.
	It was just fantastic.
	We'll have a couple of Hot Pockets producers to thank later on.
	And then the next day, Miss Mickey had decided that in order to stay on schedule, we were to drive nine hours to Illinois.
	Nine hours of driving.
	This was quite a haul, I can tell you.
	Not an easy trip.
	Particularly because, no offense to Kentucky, but the minute you get out of Tennessee and you hit Kentucky, the road changes right there.
	Into this horrible, gray, yellow-looking slabs of concrete.
	Every five seconds is...
	And then we hit Illinois, which is a pretty big state.
	So what you're saying is that Kentucky roads are crap?
	Yeah, Kentucky roads, crap.
	It's like going to California roads, you're saying.
	Oh, yeah.
	California roads...
	The Alabama roads are unbelievably nice.
	Yeah, we've had some nice...
	We only went through Alabama briefly on a previous leg.
	And then we hit Illinois, and in Illinois you go through...
	Have you seen Food, Inc.?
	Have you seen that documentary?
	Yeah.
	It must have been filmed there.
	Because all it is, it's all GM corn, and it's just miles and miles of it.
	And every...
	I don't know, I'd say every 200 feet there's a sign.
	It's like, Agri-Go!
	Miracle Corn!
	Beck's Super Stuff!
	It's unbelievable.
	They put signage up as though it's a winery?
	Yeah, exactly.
	You can select which genetically modified corn you want.
	Wow.
	And then that'll be separated by one of those chicken coops, those really long, low buildings that have no windows where the chickens are just shot up with crap.
	And it was depressing.
	Mickey took some pictures.
	I think she might have put them up on the Facebook and MickeySees.com.
	But yeah, every single couple hundred yards is like another sign.
	Like, here's an Agri-Gro.
	Miracle stuff.
	Great tasting.
	You should Google some of that.
	It's like, wow, okay.
	Wow.
	Yeah, just like a winery.
	And then we got in around 8.30.
	Super producers, I have to say, Chuck and Dana, the lovely two boys, Charlie and Carson.
	That was the funniest thing.
	So they were out on the street with the car, with the headlights flashing, and he had two flashlights, like we're in 747.
	And you're bringing in for a landing.
	At the terminal?
	At the terminal, exactly.
	So we rolled in here.
	Parked in the driveway, hooked up, and it's been so fantastic.
	They had a great guest room for us, our own bathroom, and they've been such wonderful hosts.
	They have the harp of karma here.
	Their boys are just fantastic.
	They're like two brothers that get along.
	Really, really sweet boys.
	And without a leash, I might add.
	It's really good.
	Last night they broke out the Techniques turntables and we had a dance party and something I hadn't done in 20 years.
	I was mixing songs.
	Vinyl.
	Chuck's got all the vinyl here.
	Tonight we have our meetup here in Inverness, Illinois.
	We're expecting another good crowd to stop by.
	Unfortunately, we couldn't go to Wisconsin.
	It just didn't work out anymore in the travel schedule.
	I believe there are a couple of people driving from Wisconsin.
	And we're only 30 miles from Chicago.
	Yeah, actually a drive from Wisconsin is not unusual.
	No, it's not that bad.
	So some folks are coming from Wisconsin, others from Illinois, and of course Chicago, the epicenter of evil.
	And that's what's taking place here.
	And then tomorrow we drive to Cleveland.
	To where?
	Cleveland?
	Cleveland.
	Cleveland, Ohio.
	Cleveland Rocks.
	Yeah, Cleveland Rocks, home of the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.
	And we'll actually be setting up camp there for a couple of days as I have to...
	A corrupt institution, by the way.
	Oh, of course.
	I am on board with the fact that why isn't cat scratch fever Ted Nugent in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame?
	No, it's totally corrupt.
	It used to be cool.
	Before there was a building, when they had the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame dinners at the Waldorf.
	That was always cool, but then it got...
	Like, everything gets commercialized and it's crap.
	No good.
	But ABBA's in.
	Yeah.
	ABBA. Yeah, that's some rock and roll for you.
	Does your mother know?
	Do-do-do-do-do.
	Do-do-do-do-do-do.
	So, we're still rolling it.
	And then after that, I think we're going to, after Cleveland, we go to Boston, then we go to New York, and then we are back in the D.C. area.
	Are you coming out, John?
	Everybody wants to know if you're going to make the wrap party.
	I'm still researching it.
	I'm trying to make it.
	Shall I just tell you one thing?
	Whenever I get emotional on the show, you don't want to hear about it, but if you actually met some of the producers who are out here and see what this show is achieving, you would cry.
	I've cried many times in my sleep, but also privately, just at the beauty of all these people who are awake, see what's happening, and actually, without them even really realizing, probably, are all in positions to change things dramatically in this world with one command line.
	One execution on the command line.
	So, it's really nice, John, and I miss you dearly, particularly on these meetups.
	You never see me anyway!
	That's what I mean.
	I'd never want you near the RV or anywhere near me in general, but on these meetups, it feels bad.
	It doesn't feel right to be the only one that's witnessing how cool this is and what we're doing and how...
	We are making a difference, one lone wolf at a time.
	It's very nice to see.
	And you would really...
	We know that you have a really big heart, secretly.
	And then the knock on the door.
	Yeah, and then there's that.
	Just a quick throwback to our last...
	Callback.
	You keep saying throwback.
	You should be saying callback.
	I want throwback.
	Okay, callback.
	Sorry.
	And so much for the emotional heartwarming part of the show.
	We're back to regular business as usual.
	Call back to the previous program.
	The show is not about heartwarming.
	Call back to the previous program.
	Congress did indeed authorize a version of the FAA reauthorization bill.
	I guess...
	They figured that Ray LaHood hadn't done his job, that the reporters were on to it, and here's what happened.
	So they basically kicked this can down the road until September 17th, and then we'll see.
	Basically, all television shows are on hiatus, and someone said, look, why are we doing this now?
	No one's watching TV. No one cares.
	They're all on vacations.
	It's the wrong time to roll out these episodes.
	Let's do it in September when the fall season starts.
	So the Senate agreed to a House-passed version of a temporary extension of the FAA reauthorization bill, which included, here it is, a rider provision that would cut government subsidies to the 13 rural airports.
	However, Ray LaHood can issue waivers to those airports, allowing the subsidies to continue.
	So they did exactly what the reporters were hounding LaHood about.
	The President said, okay...
	You know, get your waivers so we can put these people back to work and we'll fight about the union thing another time.
	September.
	So, it'll be a mid-season replacement.
	Temporarily on hold, this crisis reality show, Your Government in Crisis Part 2.
	And maybe we had something to do with it.
	Maybe it was like, oh man, Curry and Dvorak are talking about us again.
	Let's have a meeting.
	What are we going to do?
	You wish.
	Yeah, I do.
	So, well, I got a couple clips so I can change the pace.
	Nice.
	I got one clip that was kind of interesting.
	I was channel surfing and I ran into this religious guy who's bug-eyed and crazy.
	And as soon as I heard him, I had to make this little clip.
	There's only one clip for people out there who have followed the tech scene and are very familiar with Steve Ballmer's onstage antics.
	Developers, developers, developers!
	I found a guy who he got it from.
	Just tell me this isn't Steve Ballmer.
	Nada!
	It was over!
	It was done with!
	It was finished!
	He wasn't going out to another church to preach another message!
	He was in jail for the rest of his life!
	Ballmer's like, hey, that's a good rap.
	I should try that.
	That's good.
	It sounds like him.
	He looks like...
	It doesn't look like him because he has hair.
	But he...
	That's good.
	Which is wow.
	That is good.
	I like it.
	So did you know that, you know, the way one of my pet peeves is the fact that they're throwing people who pee in the park in what they're saying with child rapists?
	Yeah, sex offenders, yeah.
	Well, did you know that now that annoying a minor in California is a sex offense?
	What?!
	Just play this clip.
	Wait a minute, wait a minute.
	I annoy my daughter all the time.
	Well, you're going to be on a list, boy.
	The well-publicized trial in the South Bay is now over.
	The Los Gatos mother, accused of having sex with a 16-year-old boy, has been found not guilty.
	But she still could go to jail.
	A jury found Sarah Cole not guilty of two felony counts of unlawful sex with one of her son's good friends.
	But Cole was convicted of a misdemeanor for annoying or molesting a minor.
	That means she'll have to register as a sex offender for life and could serve time.
	So let me get this straight.
	If you yell at some kid, hey, get off my lawn!
	The kid can yell back, oh yeah, old man, stop annoying me!
	You'll have to register!
	Just a little tidbit from the local news.
	And by the way, I think it's kind of cool if your mom is so hot that your friends are having sex with her.
	It's a mom with benefits.
	Yeah.
	Dot com.
	Exactly.
	Wow.
	Yeah.
	No, there you go.
	That's Gitmo for you.
	Yeah, it's totally Gitmo.
	Gitmo Nation.
	Unbelievable.
	It's pretty crazy.
	So, I have, there's a new, this is going to go nowhere, but I'm listening to Thom Hartman, and he comes up with, he's got some guys, there's some guy that was apparently in some progressive movement criticizing the Muslims, which is against the rules, and so Hartman goes after him, and then he makes a comment at the very end, he has a new wordage, and you tell me if you have any idea what this means.
	Besides claiming that pretty much everything under the sun, from President Obama to David Petraeus to even CPAC, has been subverted by the Muslim Brotherhood, Gaffney now thinks that Brevik himself was an agent of the Muslim Brotherhood.
	Speaking to ThinkProgress, Gaffney had this observation about Brevik's manifesto.
	It cries out for a thorough investigation as to whether it was in fact an authentic A piece of his own creation, whether it was a false flag operation, whether it actually was meant to do anything other than contribute to Sharia's efforts to suppress criticism and awareness of its agenda.
	Right.
	At a time when our nation should be learning from the violent consequences of Muslim fear-mongering, Gaffney spews more Muslim fear-mongering.
	It's a time to call Gaffney out for what he really is, and that's a stochastic terrorist, which is very, very ugly.
	Stochastic?
	Yeah, a stochastic terrorist.
	What does that mean?
	Well, I'll read you the definition from the wiki.
	Stochastic refers to systems whose behavior is intrinsically non-deterministic.
	A lone wolf, you mean?
	It's kind of like a lone wolf thing, isn't it?
	Well, but non-deterministic means he's just...
	I think what he's trying to say means he makes it up as he goes along.
	Or just trying to be a terrorist just because he can't.
	I'm not sure.
	The fact of the matter is this new term, this stochastic terrorist, is some bull crap that this idiot on Russia Today would come up with that means nothing to anybody, but it sounds kind of intellectual.
	I was just shaking my heads over that one.
	The guy's show is almost unwatchable now.
	Speaking of the Breivik Oslo shooting, talk about your timing.
	It's like, how can we monopolize on this?
	Let's have a meeting.
	Capitalize.
	Capitalize.
	The gun he used was a Ruger LC9 with gunsight scout rifle from Ruger.
	And once again, just a couple days after this happened, and I'm reading from the press release, the industry has once again recognized Ruger for the high-quality, innovative product designs that we have produced in direct response to our Voice of the Customer program, said President and CEO Mike Pfeiffer, as they received Gun of the Year award for the Ruger that shot these kids!
	So it was a Ruger LC9, it's a pocket pistol.
	Yeah, but I guess it had the...
	He had a pistol, he had a pistol, he had a rifle.
	But I think it has the snap-on bits.
	It's a really small gun.
	Yeah, handgun of the year.
	For a record-setting seven times total.
	Demonstrating our transition to the leading American handgun manufacturer.
	Good job!
	How about a lesson in timing?
	That was pretty crazy.
	I thought Ruger was a German gun.
	I thought so too, but apparently it's an American gun.
	There were some riots in East London yesterday.
	I don't know if you caught that.
	No, they don't play any of that stuff.
	I was watching the BBC stuff and they were just basically talking about Libya.
	Oh, really?
	In fact, it happened in Tottenham.
	Home of the Tottenham Spurs.
	And I think it was an Indian or Pakistani or, you know, a brown person.
	A 29-year-old kid, basically, got killed by police officers on Thursday.
	And I guess it's kind of new to me, all this information.
	But the police had not anticipated any extreme violence.
	And there were, like, lighting cars on fire, Molotov cocktails.
	And the media is literally just like, oh, you know, it's not that big a deal.
	People are a little upset.
	But the slaves are revolting, big time.
	And of course this will all be blamed on austerity measures eventually.
	But no coverage.
	You'll be blamed on the Tea Party.
	Yeah, the Tea Party.
	That's pretty funny.
	I watch people I respect writing about the Tea Party and like, you know, they're evil, they're horrible, they're soulless.
	It's just amazing to me.
	And they're all from Texas!
	The Tea Party is hardly anybody from Texas, A. I think there's 11 from Texas.
	Whatever the case is, there's some Tea Partiers everywhere.
	But they just associate with a smaller government movement.
	And it's like, all these attributions are given to them.
	Racist, and they're this and that.
	Oh yeah, they hate Obama because he's black.
	Yeah, they hate Obama because he's black.
	You know, it's funny, but entire months go by, I don't think about that.
	Seriously.
	Like, what?
	Are you kidding me?
	They're succeeding.
	The left-right paradigm, that's one thing that I think is real.
	It's really working.
	There's something else.
	This is something that the producers here in Inverness told me about.
	And I've been trying to look this up.
	Have you heard of No Excuses University?
	Nope.
	So No Excuses University, and if you go look at their website, it's unclear where their funding is coming from, but they are handing out $250,000 grants to schools, etc.
	How it works is a school, and we're talking third graders, Third graders.
	And the whole idea is a guy comes in and he talks to the human resources about going to college.
	No excuses.
	You should be going to college.
	But the way it's done is, and of course this material I don't have, although I'm waiting on a videotape, which I can't wait to post, because someone filmed one of these in secret, is the guy then shows a PowerPoint presentation to third graders.
	How old is a third grader, John?
	I don't know.
	Like nine?
	Eight?
	Nine, maybe.
	Something like that?
	Eight.
	Nine.
	Yeah, eight or nine.
	Eight.
	Yeah, advertising.
	And on it, it says, if you go to college, here's the car you can have.
	If you don't go to college, and they show like a beat-up Toyota Supra, this is the car you'll have.
	And they get these kids into this whole chanting thing, and...
	Chanting?
	Yeah, let me play an example.
	It's from their own website.
	"I am the doctor!" "Dargo!" "We're the Harlem, Harlem, Red!" "Representing Georgia Tech!" "Yellow Jackets on the ground!" "That's why we are so loud!" "G-C-A-D-D-I!" This is literally, and they all have the same shirts on, and they're all doing these chants about the university they want to go to.
	This is what they're being taught by this No Excuses University.
	Yeah!
	Texas Aggies beat the refs!
	King of Aggies!
	Ra, ra, Carolina, Carolina, ra, ra, Carolina, Carolina, ra, Carolina, go U and Z!
	We want We want!
	To learn!
	To learn!
	And do!
	And do!
	Our best!
	Our best!
	Each day!
	Each day!
	Let's go!
	Let's go!
	Malgris!
	A nice little band music in the background on this clip they put on their own website.
	So I'm like, okay, I've got to look into this organization.
	And of course there's zero information about where they're from, but this really, from what I understand, all this comes from Chicago, does come from this area, it's all around the country.
	Yeah, it looks like a Chicago-based operation.
	This is what I'm digging as you speak.
	So, they have this character training.
	I'm sorry, first we have the No Excuses Code of Conduct.
	This is what these kids are taught by outside consultants coming into the schools, which the administrations willfully let in.
	There are no excuses, and no matter what, we'll get the kids where they need to go.
	The No Excuses program also has a code of conduct.
	Students are rewarded for being safe, responsible, and respectful.
	So, it's all in good fun when it comes to a friendly, in-state rivalry.
	IU versus Butler.
	Who's better?
	IU. Butler.
	IU. IU. Butler.
	I am.
	I am.
	Teachers say it doesn't matter who they're rooting for as long as it gets them one step closer to a diploma.
	Laura Kirtley.
	Alright.
	Now here's the one that kind of frightened me.
	This is the character training.
	They get character training and of course it's not just the little human resources who at this point are still worth about nine million dollars.
	Over their lifetime.
	It's what the teachers are being taught as to how to manipulate these human resources to be good little slaves.
	Check this out.
	Happens to be the word of the month this month.
	It's like somebody drops something, then you can pick it up for them.
	It's all part of character education, which teachers say improves learning.
	Oh my gosh, I think it makes such a difference in children, in their security, in their comfort level.
	I think it gives them confidence.
	They become better leaders, and then their academics improve.
	The coordinator says character is embedded in everything students do, from their character garden to their commitment to go to a university, based in part on a book outlining seven habits of highly effective people.
	Oh yeah, they got books.
	They hand out books.
	What is a character garden, by the way?
	Really?
	Character garden?
	Here's some carrots, a good character.
	I guess you'd look for a carrot that's shaped like a human body.
	Listen to what's coming.
	Be proactive.
	To be responsible and to listen to people.
	Begin with the end in mind.
	You have to plan ahead and set goals.
	Put first things first.
	I always do my homework first and then I play.
	Think win-win.
	It puts call things into other people's emotional bank accounts.
	Seek first to understand, then to be understood.
	To assumption.
	Sharpen the saw.
	It means to exercise and it means to stay healthy so then you won't be lazy and then you can't do work.
	This is great.
	It's cute.
	It gets better.
	And finally...
	Synergize means to work together with other people...
	It's that synergy that students, teachers, and parents feel gave them a win-win.
	We pull together...
	Now listen, listen to this.
	Listen, listen.
	We're like a family, okay?
	That's a kind act, too.
	What else could be kind?
	People here care.
	What else, Nathaniel?
	Another example of how character is instilled, instead of detention, students have a character violation for which they write a rethinking letter.
	Oh!
	Character violation!
	Write your rethinking letter!
	No!
	Character violation!
	Mrs. Appleby, he committed a character violation on me.
	Thank you.
	Ah!
	Rethinking letter!
	This cannot be good.
	Okay, so this guy started a turnaround school.
	He's named Damon Lopez.
	Yeah, that's the guy.
	And he's also apparently involved in some Project Moore and some other things.
	Everything works around this six exceptional system.
	Which is basically very cult-like.
	You think?
	So I'm assuming that there's some sort of training, and people who are old enough to know this, you know, there's a whole slew of these things, starting with Est, of course, but these, Scientology actually kind of went in this direction, but they went off in a religious way.
	They went off into a religious direction and didn't stay with these things like Est used to have, which is the Earhart Sensitivity Training, all based on these kind of long meetings and these rules and these crazy ideas that were propagated mostly in the 70s and 80s.
	But they're still very effective methods of brainwashing people.
	Thank you.
	That's the word I was looking for.
	Yeah, it's not good, and it's all coming from Chicago.
	You know there's that woman who wrote The Dumbing Down of America?
	We've got to revisit that.
	Actually, super producer Chuck has her book.
	This thing is huge!
	You know, there's like a PDF floating around that she put out?
	Yeah.
	And you read that, and you're like, oh, that's pretty cool.
	But the book that she wrote is, John, I mean, we should read this book.
	It's like Atlas Shrugged, that's how big it is.
	But she has every single detail of how this is being done.
	And you know this, because you were a, weren't you like a book distributor, or who was it?
	Tell that story again about someone who said that they're creating these textbooks to make our kids stupid on purpose.
	Yeah.
	I never said that.
	Yes, you did.
	Oh, well, I may have said it, but no, I've never been a...
	No.
	You're thinking of somebody else.
	No, no.
	You once told me that you would talk to a guy, and the guy said, yeah, these textbooks are all...
	It's all meant to purposely dumb down the kids.
	Well, whatever it was, whatever I said...
	It's true.
	I've been since taken aside, given two zaps, a couple electrical jolts, and I've long since forgotten the exact story.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	Well, anyway.
	Caught me off guard.
	Sorry.
	But yeah, well, duh.
	Okay, well, we have to follow this.
	There's something fishy about this.
	Yeah, no, it's disturbing.
	Very, very disturbing.
	They like to get into the schools, these organizations, so they can somehow gouge the public.
	But you look at the teachers and they're all into it and like, yeah, this is great.
	Let's have the kids chant and write character letters and whatever.
	Ugh!
	Hey, you test drove a couple of those battery cars, didn't you?
	Yeah.
	Do you know how many...
	The car will be coming out shortly for 99 cents.
	Well...
	Add this to your report.
	The July sales numbers are out for the Chevy Volt.
	How many do you think General Motors sold of this great car that is turning around this company?
	Well, they actually don't make that many of them, so these numbers are elusive, but it's about 4,000, something like that.
	125.
	Oh, and I thought it was 3,500.
	No.
	No, no, no.
	They produced in total...
	5,000.
	But they sold 125 in July.
	In March, 281.
	That thing's a total dog.
	No one's buying this.
	That's funny.
	And I saw Rahm Emanuel introducing the president at his birthday party in Chicago, the $38,500 birthday party, to see, what is it, the go-to-go band?
	Remember those guys who were on the treadmills?
	They had that cool video?
	Yeah.
	That was the entertainment.
	38 grand.
	I see these douchebags on treadmills, really?
	And so Emmanuel's there saying, this president did all the hard stuff, and he actually, you know, he turned around the car industry, and they paid back all their loans!
	Yeah, by taking out new loans with lower interest rates.
	All they did was kick the can down the, what was it again?
	Kick the can down the road.
	Kick the can down the block, what do they keep saying, which is the meme?
	Kick the can.
	ugh Ugh.
	And, uh, meanwhile we've got, uh, Monsanto.
	Now announcing they will be selling genetically modified sweet corn for human consumption later this year.
	Mmm, yum.
	Yum.
	I used to make corn on the cob.
	I'm not such a big fan of it anymore, if you don't mind.
	How did you make, you mean you cooked corn on the cob?
	Yeah, it gets so technical on my butt.
	Oh, by the way, little food, uh, foodie alert.
	When we drove from Nashville to Inverness in a place called Effingham, which is...
	Effingham.
	Effingham, yes.
	Effingham is at the crossroads between Interstate 24 and Interstate 57.
	There's actually a big cross, a huge cross, which is apparently some kind of monument.
	You can find it at crossusa.org.
	And Effingham is known as the Crossroads of Opportunity.
	And it's basically a huge truck stop.
	There's nothing but, you know, pilot, truck stop, BP, Exxon, and then if you drive, and this was a tip from one of our producers, if you drive off the beaten path about five minutes, you get to a place called the Firefly Grill, which is an outstanding restaurant.
	With grass-fed beef.
	They've got just killer...
	I mean, the food was outrageous.
	It's a gem.
	If you ever find yourself at the crossroads of opportunity, go to the Firefly Grill.
	We had such a lovely lunch there.
	It was really...
	That's the beauty of driving with some version of internet connectivity.
	And people are tweeting you all kinds of things to look at and stop off at.
	It was cool.
	It was really nice.
	They have their own website, ffgrill.com.
	Yep.
	That's right.
	So should we thank some producers?
	No, it's not quite time.
	Just about time.
	I think maybe I can just bring you up to date on what Lucifer is doing.
	As Lucifer had a press conference, for those of you who are new to the program, Lucifer is our pet name for Hillary Clinton.
	She did one of those press conferences when she comes out laughing.
	He-he-he-he-he.
	And this time is with Minister of Foreign Affairs Baird from Canada.
	And they both had some choice words.
	I'll probably have to boost this audio.
	Hold on a second.
	Let me just add a little boost.
	They both had some very choice words to say about our favorite country, which we're going to get to next, which is Syria.
	Well, first, as to the follow-up on Syria, I think I've said all I can say that we are working around the clock to try to gather up as much international support for strong actions against the Syrian regime as possible.
	Hmm, strong actions as possible.
	What could that mean, John?
	What do you think?
	Should we go in there and kick some ass?
	Yeah, kick some ass!
	I come from the school that actions speak louder than words.
	In the morning!
	Actions speak louder than words.
	We're coming to kick your ass aside.
	Now here's Baird.
	Obviously, the United Nations Security Council passed a resolution in 1973, which gave a significant amount of leeway for allies to come together and to tackle the challenge that we saw on the ground.
	We're there very actively protecting civilian lives.
	The situation in Syria, the actions of the Assad regime are obviously abhorrent.
	Abhorrent!
	The way they've acted in recent weeks and months, even in the last 48 hours in Hama, is absolutely disgraceful.
	Regrettably, we don't have the same amount of international support at the UN for this, so I think in the absence of that, what we've got to continue to do is to work with like-minded allies.
	There's no country, I think, who can single-handedly tackle this challenge.
	We've got to work aggressively with others, I think, recently.
	What is wrong with this guy?
	He's dead.
	He's brain dead.
	But he's getting the talking points out, which is, regrettably, we don't have a resolution like 1973, which we had in Libya to go in and shoot hellfire at brown people.
	Regrettably.
	Oh, so regrettable.
	Oh, I wish we could go kill some people.
	Regrettably, we can't do that.
	But we're going to get all our international partners together.
	We're going to get it done.
	So that's some obvious saber-rattling going on there.
	Well, before we go to the donors, I might as well play the competition's pitch.
	PBS has...
	Oh, boy.
	I watched this woman.
	They try to palm off these weekend little donation pledge moments where they take one of the guys who's got some syndicated show, and they try to palm it off as though it's local, and they're not even trying anymore to make it.
	They just say, your local station.
	They don't even have the other guy come in and go, you're cool, cool, cool.
	They don't even bother.
	What clip is this?
	Ji Gong on PBS. This is the latest thing.
	They got some guy, some buff-looking character who does essentially a version of Tai Chi on PBS and talks about the chi and all this mystical bullcrap which is beaten to death on PBS where they, instead of having anything that's based on science or even traditional religion, they come up with these crazy notions and they promote them to these dummies who watch this stuff.
	Well, it's my pleasure to welcome back to our studios, Lee Holden.
	Yeah, thanks for having me back.
	Such a pleasure.
	This is your fourth show.
	It's my fourth show, and it's an honor to be here.
	I love public television and what it does for our community.
	I kind of think of Qigong as something healthy for our bodies, and public television is something really healthy for the community.
	Healthy for our minds and spirits.
	It's all together.
	It's all together for mind and spirit.
	It actually makes you a better person.
	You know who else loves public media?
	Harry Reid.
	We turn now to the Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, a Democrat of Nevada.
	Mr.
	Reid, thank you very much for making time for us.
	It's really my pleasure.
	Love NPR. Love NPR. I love NPR. What a stooge.
	Yeah, really.
	I'm going to show myself the mood by donating to no agenda.
	Imagine all the people who could do that.
	Oh yeah, that'd be crap.
	Yeah, on no agenda in the morning.
	There you go.
	Mark Fusco in San Antonio, Texas.
	I want to thank him for contributing $133.70 to the cause.
	Hey, John and Adam, another contribution to the cause.
	Yay!
	It was great to see Adam and Mickey in Austin.
	When you move here, you'll need to make a trip down to San Antonio to see all the great human resources here.
	Needing some karma for my mother...
	You've got karma.
	She's having her third bout with treatable cancer, but not curable this time, so we're in need of some karma.
	You just got it.
	And that is...
	Hey, you know, I just want to say again.
	How come no world leaders ever have third bouts with cancer?
	They got some fixed somewhere.
	Bastards.
	Chavez?
	Yeah, well, no, Chavez is on the hit list.
	Of course.
	Yeah.
	So he's got 1337wine.com.
	Hope those 1337 wine stickers are on some toll booths.
	Yes, we've been posting them.
	Gotta put some more stickers on toll booths.
	Yeah, we have been posting them.
	We only hit two toll roads so far on the trip.
	I put it on the toll booth collector's forehead.
	Hey!
	And I rolled up at the toll road when you get up here in Inverness, and it's like cash, and you have to go off on a separate exit.
	And it's like, car is $1.
	So I rolled down the window, and the woman goes, you're not a car!
	It's $1.50!
	I'm like, oh, I was trying to sneak it by you.
	Idiot.
	John Johnson Jr., Troy, New York, $111.11 in the morning.
	John and Adam had a strange dream last night where the Duchess pulled up alongside me while I was waiting to line up to use the ATM at my bank.
	I'm on the $5 per month plan, but if there's ever a sign I need to make an extra donation, this was it.
	Congratulations on successfully burrowing into my subconscious mind.
	Oh yeah, you know how we do that, don't you?
	Dvorak.org slash N-A Adam Duke, Colby, Isle of Man, $108 in the morning, John and Adam, which is, I think, Isle of Man is in the UK. So he really donated two pounds.
	In the morning, Adam and John, I've been listening to the show for a couple of years now, and with today being my 30th birthday, I think it's time...
	To become an official part of the No Agenda family, I know you're both avid numerologists, so I've given you a sacred number to keep that karma bell ringing loud in the feds away from Adam's door.
	Well, let me ring the bell then, just to make sure.
	I've got to figure out the number.
	You've got karma.
	108.
	Yeah, how can 108 be?
	Is that a sacred number?
	I don't know.
	Many thanks to your special brand of analysis, humor, and insight.
	It is the only dynamic duo can deliver.
	I appreciate a thorough de-douching and a spot of karma.
	Give them a double.
	You've been de-douched.
	You've got karma.
	Brian Rogers, New York.
	New York, $77.77.
	Value for value, he says.
	Mike Potter in Lake St.
	Louis, Missouri.
	A karma request for his new tugboat named Paver.
	Tug away!
	You've got karma.
	Nothing like some tug karma.
	Good old Dame Tanya of New York.
	Hot Pockets 2008 Gas Fund.
	Hope this helps a bit with the second leg of the tour and karma for Yellow Jacket.
	Yeah, he needs some.
	You've got karma.
	David Rudolph Baker in Groningen.
	Bucker.
	Is it Bucker?
	Yeah, in Groningen.
	In Groningen.
	Kroningen.
	Kroningen.
	Ah, close.
	NoagendaPadStand.com.
	iPadStand.
	iPadStand.
	We've sold zero so far.
	Oh, this is no good.
	NoagendaPadStand.com.
	You've got karma.
	It's because he got the wrong domain name.
	Okay.
	Good.
	Did he get the right one now?
	I don't know.
	I guess so.
	$66.66 all for the same amount from Robert Messick in Santa Cruz, California.
	And then the No Agenda Group in Amsterdam has a note for us, a $65 level.
	Yeah, hold on a second.
	I'm sorry.
	I have it right here.
	Did you just fart?
	Okay, this is to restore my eyesight.
	Last Sunday, NA Groupie says, she got into a freak accident with her bike.
	Now, this is something you may have seen in Gitmo Nation Lowlands.
	They have something called a snellbinder or bike spider.
	Which is basically a really thick elastic band which goes over the baggage carrier.
	It's a bungee cord.
	Yeah, you have bungee cords, you have rubber, there's different kinds.
	So it was stretched to the max.
	One side got loosed, whipped...
	The left side of her face hurting her eye.
	Ow!
	Yeah, she had no eyesight at the time, but it has now improved to 65%, hence the $65 donation.
	Two, I'm also looking for a job.
	Got a temp job at a hospital until mid-September.
	Three, she says, I need an apartment.
	I'm still living like a student or like Anne Frank.
	Oh, God.
	In a studio apartment of 25 square meters, which is about 75 square feet in an attic in Amsterdam.
	So yes, NA Groupie will give you some mega karma, my dear.
	You've got karma.
	And appreciate the support of the show and hope everything works out.
	And be careful for those spiders.
	Also, Daniel Hutner in Murphys, California.
	Sir Daniel, actually.
	Danny Meadows and Joshua Brickner from Stockbridge, Georgia in Loveland, Colorado.
	$50 each.
	And I want to mention that we have, at the No Agenda Nation, we do have 333 commemorative coins that are now being minted by Eric the Shill.
	Oh, really?
	Really.
	And he will be...
	I don't know.
	I should go look at what they're selling for.
	I think they're $35 or something like that.
	Wait a minute.
	Wait a minute.
	It's a 333 coin for $35?
	I don't know.
	Maybe it's $40, $50.
	I don't know.
	It should be $33.
	Well, maybe it's more.
	Maybe you could talk them into lowering.
	Whatever the case is, these will be, for all you collectors of the No Agenda coins, this will be the third or fourth coin I think that's been floating around, and it's probably very collectible like the rest of them.
	I have a whole bunch of knickknacks that I've been collecting on my mantle.
	It's actually quite interesting what we've managed to produce.
	Oh, yeah.
	It's $44.44.
	Okay, well that's good.
	That also commemorates 4444.
	Anyway, the NoAgendaNation.com is also where you can go to the donation page besides Dvorak.org slash NA and ChannelDvorak.com slash NA and the NoAgendaShow.com.
	I'm looking at it.
	It looks kind of nice.
	In Ora Alinem Isera.
	Hit him in the mouth in Latin on the back.
	It has a velvet display box.
	And, yeah, nice.
	August 21st, 2011, which will be episode 333.
	It looks nice.
	And Eric always overdoes it with, you know, the display box will probably be pretty good, I'm sure.
	Yeah.
	And you have to, people out there, if you wanted to thank him for getting your original coins, you would have never gotten.
	And otherwise, you might want to pick up another one.
	And we have a couple of Hot Pockets producers who I'd like to thank personally, who showed up to the meetups.
	Of course, Patrick Coble, who became a knight.
	We'll be knighting him momentarily, $1,000.
	Dave Selden, who was kind enough to drive us back.
	Sir Jeff Smith picked us up and took us down to the Big Bang Bar in Nashville.
	And Dave and his wife drove us back.
	It was great.
	$190.
	Appreciate that.
	We have Tori Hunter in the morning.
	John and Adam, please...
	Yes, for the You Will Obey jingle, which I don't have on...
	I don't have that on the Duchess.
	I'll have to get that.
	I can do it.
	I can fake it.
	You will...
	Please do that so the human resources will become donors instead of boners.
	Thank you for sharing time with your fans.
	May the rest of the journey be a blessing.
	Thank you so much.
	He gave us $100.
	Lone Squirrel, thank you for showing up with the water and blankets.
	Hilarious.
	The blankets will come in handy, I'm sure.
	Did you get the message?
	What's that?
	Don't send your water.
	I think that was part of the joke.
	Philip Welch gave us $20 and I feel like a total douchebag.
	Our black listener from Nashville.
	It was funny.
	I took a picture.
	One guy came by and he had a horrible stutter.
	And then we had the black guy, and then me, and I was like, look at it, it's the Tourette's guy, it's the stutter, and the black guy.
	We were the perfect mix.
	We were like the triage.
	Sounds like something you'd more likely run into in Memphis.
	Oh, please.
	It was a beautiful picture.
	It's up on the Facebook.
	I'm like, look at us, we're great.
	Look at us degenerates.
	We're perfect.
	So, guys, thank you so much.
	Guys and gals, it was great, and we look forward to the meetup this afternoon.
	It kicks off at 5 o'clock in Inverness.
	You can find that on the Facebook page.
	And, of course, that is being organized by super producers Chuck and Dana.
	Really, really cool what they're doing.
	And as John said, we need the support to keep us rolling.
	Please don't listen to John about keeping us on the road.
	That would be horrible.
	In fact, get us off the road.
	Theboract.org slash NA.
	It's a better thing, bad thing.
	I'm no one champion.
	So we've got Black Knight, Sir Bill Arcand.
	He wants to congratulate himself, his birthday tomorrow on 8-8, the magical wacky number day, according to the Chinas.
	So happy birthday, Sir Black Knight Bill Arcand.
	And Adam Duke, he turns 30 today.
	Happy birthday on behalf of all your buddies here at the No Agenda Show.
	Happy birthday!
	And then we've got to do two of these, John.
	I got my blade out here in the Duchess.
	If you could...
	Hello?
	Do you have yours?
	Yeah.
	There you go.
	Okay.
	Perfect.
	Craig Porter and Patrick Coble, please step forward and extend your ring fingers as you get down on one knee.
	Both of you have supported the No Agenda podcast, the best podcast in the world.
	With up to $1,000 of support for the show, it is our value-for-value model, and therefore we proudly pronounce thee as Knights of the No Agenda Roundtable.
	Sir Craig Porter and Sir Patrick Coble, Knights of the No Agenda Roundtable.
	Come on over, boys.
	Your hookers and blowers are ready for you, or if you prefer, your renvoys and chardonnay.
	This is what we appreciate.
	You, my friends.
	And of course, this comes with responsibilities, as you are now a knight, and you've got to do all kinds of stuff when called upon.
	Particularly if you work at agencies with three letters, which is cool.
	Extremely cool.
	I also want to say happy birthday to Larry in Waterbury, Connecticut, from his buddy Bill.
	Oh, nice.
	I'm sorry, was that something I was supposed to do?
	Did I miss that somehow?
	Well, if you opened your email, you would have.
	Yeah.
	It's okay.
	Oh, yeah.
	This is a little ditty I picked up.
	This was actually on Democracy Now!, And the piece I'm going to play for you was not the piece where Democracy Now!
	used this to slam the Koch brothers, K-O-C-H, which is what they normally do.
	Yeah, that's what they always do.
	But it was very interesting.
	It's about this thing called ALEC. Are you familiar with ALEC? Not really.
	Well, you should be.
	You're the one that really turned me on to it.
	Alec is...
	Let me see if I can get the exact definition of Alec here.
	Hold on, I should probably do the following.
	Consult the book of knowledge!
	Here, look for Alec.
	Alec what?
	Alec, A-L-E-C. Eh, it's the...
	Scottish form of Alex.
	No.
	The American Legislative Exchange Council.
	No.
	It is the...
	You know what?
	The clip explains what it is.
	In 1980, there were only half a million people incarcerated in this country.
	Now that number has quadrupled to nearly 2.4 million.
	One out of every 100 American adults is in prison.
	The majority of them for non-violent drug offenses.
	You know, the United States has 4% of the world's population, but yet we have 25% of the world's prisoners in this country.
	And a big part of the reason for that is ALEC. Starting in the 1980s, ALEC, with the sponsorship of, you know, the Corrections Court's Veration of America...
	And let me just remind people, ALEC is the American Legislative Exchange Council.
	Yeah.
	Alec, the American Legislative Exchange Council, started passing bills in individual states to privatize prisons.
	So now, there's prison companies that could make money by keeping people in prisons.
	So then, Alec, what they did after that was they got states to pass tougher drug laws, tougher laws that would put prisoners away for a long time.
	In fact, one of the first bills...
	Introduced in 1995 by then Wisconsin State Representative Scott Walker was an ALEC bill where he cited ALEC statistics and he was an ALEC member where he drew his inspiration.
	So they put a mass amount of people in jail and then they created a situation where they could exploit that.
	And now what we're seeing is the incredible rise of prison labor where you have prisoners making as much as 20 cents an hour, making everything from the electronic components and guided missiles that are being used in Libya to bread at chicken patties that your children are eating at school.
	To, in fact, maybe even these office chairs we're sitting in now.
	We have over 100,000 prisoners employed working for private corporations.
	And before the 1990s in Alec, this did not occur in this country.
	Is this a great country or what?
	Well, you know, this all stems from an article that ran in The Nation, that actually ran a couple days ago.
	Of course, there's nothing new.
	This is the guy who wrote this article.
	Yeah, anyone can go to the wiki, the Book of Knowledge, or just Google, and type in American U.S. prison labor.
	And the irony to the whole thing to me is the fact that we're always accusing the Chinese, which have less...
	We have the most total people in prison and the most per capita.
	And that includes China.
	Slaves!
	And essentially we use that we say oh the Chinese they use slave labor don't do they're using slave cheap slave prison labor.
	We're the ones who do that and it's always nice to point the finger.
	And the Chinese by the way are nothing but irked about this because they know the facts.
	And every time we call we call them on human rights violations they're always just grinding their teeth thinking who are these people kidding to be calling us out.
	20 cents.
	As much as 20 cents an hour.
	You know, that sounds like a pretty good gig right now.
	20 cents an hour.
	There's high employment in the prisoners.
	It's funny because when we were in Smithville driving around with Rhino the Bearded, there were these guys in these green striped suits helping people at the grocery store.
	And these were prisoners.
	And they bring your groceries out to the car.
	They're baggers?
	Yeah, baggers.
	And they take the bag out to the car.
	And Mickey was like, what are those suits?
	You should have talked to one of them.
	Somehow it didn't feel like a good idea.
	She took a picture, I think one of them was on the Facebook page.
	That's funny.
	You know those, remember, was it Juicy Fruit gum?
	You know how you get the green Juicy Fruit gum and it had the white and green stripes?
	That's the kind of outfits they had on.
	No, no, no, no, no.
	Juicy Fruit has never been in a green package, ever.
	I think it might have been.
	You may be wrong.
	I mean, do you want to...
	Are you calling me out again, son?
	You want to put a nickel on it?
	Want to do another downgrade wager?
	Huh?
	Put your money where your mouth is?
	I should have bit you that dollar.
	I should have.
	I would have been rolling in the dough.
	Well, before we get to the New York Times, I have a couple of clips that are worthwhile.
	Because we're talking about propagandizing children.
	Coincidentally, I was watching Doodlebugs.
	Wait a minute.
	Is that because C-SPAN has no good programming?
	Now that everyone's on vacation?
	Congress is out, so we're going to be hard up for the material.
	So we have to go to the children's programming that's on ABC or CBS or whatever.
	And there's a lot of interesting little propagandistic messages, including the...
	First, let's start with a couple short clips.
	One is about the U.S. Mail's Never Late.
	You might as well play that and get a feeling for it.
	Just so we can get into it.
	It's that part of the show where my hands get all sweaty.
	Here we go.
	Okay.
	Still no mail?
	No, and I'm getting a bit worried.
	Mail snail's never late.
	Mail snail!
	Mail snail!
	Never late.
	This is government.
	Government's good.
	Government's great.
	Never late.
	And so then we have the classic, the propagandistic piece you might want to listen to, Doodlebug's Children's Propaganda.
	Welcome to the Doodle Man!
	Wow, I'm doodle for a day?
	Super spectacular, awesome, good news!
	Glad you're psyched.
	We need your help.
	How'd you like to be a fellow male snail?
	Sure, sound easy.
	Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
	It's not that easy.
	Especially on DoodleNet Day!
	Hooray!
	There's so many packages, presents, cards, letters.
	You should probably try it first.
	Walk in someone else's shoes.
	Come on and give it a try.
	Another person's point of view can help to open your mind.
	Just what you think.
	Options are few.
	That's a new idea that can work for you.
	Open your minds!
	Sir Jeff Smith has a new gig.
	He has potential.
	Wait a minute, let me ask you a question.
	Is this propagandizing the U.S. Postal Service who are once again saying they need more billions of dollars?
	Is this why this is happening right now?
	That's one element.
	The other one is that kids have to be more open-minded and multi-culti.
	There's a real heavy-duty multi-culti thing.
	And...
	But the reason I'm bringing it up is because when I was a kid, I don't remember watching cartoons that were...
	I mean, I know that during the World War II, that Disney and the other guys would put out these propagandistic anti-Hitler cartoons.
	Right.
	But that was the only moment I think most of the cartoons were just either generalized about just life or people bashing each other in the head or funny situations or ooga horns while some guy looked at a shapely woman.
	Or a speed racer.
	Speed Eraser, I think it started, maybe some of it started to tend toward propaganda.
	But I'm watching these cartoons and it's just blatant propaganda for these little kids.
	Oh yeah, oh, I want to put myself in somebody else's shoes, dad.
	Yeah, it's part of, it's like that no excuses thing.
	So, anyway, meanwhile, the only last clip I have, this is just a very short bit.
	I don't have much to say.
	I just thought the bit, they also solved Bigfoot, and of course they make fun of the idea of just, you know, I don't know what the point of this is, but I just thought this was kind of cute.
	I can't believe we really solved Bigfoot today!
	And wow, did he ever have big feet!
	I wonder how he buys shoes that fit!
	Yeah!
	Hey, gang!
	Oh, God.
	John, you definitely need to come to the meet-up.
	We've got to get you out of the house.
	This is not good, my friend.
	John's gonna hum the Sunday Times.
	Yeah, well, ironically...
	No, wait, don't tell me you're going to do Sunday.
	Yeah.
	Oh, hold on.
	John's gonna hum the Sunday Times.
	Just when I thought we had a jingle ready for you.
	I thought that this Saturday was going to take over, but this Sunday happens to be the paper, so I think they rotate.
	Okay.
	So here's my favorite.
	The main thing is the front page photo.
	It's hilarious because it's Governor Preaches to Thousands.
	The Response is the name of it.
	The, capital R, Response.
	Oh, this is Adios Mofo guy?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	A prayer event sponsored by Governor Rick Perry drew thousands to a stadium in Houston.
	And so they have this photo.
	I wish you could see it.
	I don't know if people are familiar with this.
	Certain evangelicals and Pentecostals in particular like to hold their arm up in kind of a Hitler salute, but then they bring their palm back so the palm should be facing skyward to receive the grace of God or the Holy Spirit or whatever.
	So you hold your arm up and then you try to bend your hand way back so it's pointing up.
	Well, apparently in Texas they're so old and arthritic that they can't manage to turn the palm up.
	So there's a picture here of all these people giving a Heil Hitler salute.
	No, no.
	No, I love it.
	Adios, mofo.
	I love it.
	That fits with him.
	It's not like it's that much.
	The photographer had to go around to find this one group that was particularly offensive.
	And I would assume that anybody in New York or around the country that's not familiar with the practice of this hand thing would look at this and go, Oh my God, Rick Perry is a friggin' Nazi.
	What is the name of the, what's the title of the article?
	Well, the name of the photograph is Governor Preaches to Thousands, and then it goes into page 12 for the actual article.
	They don't even have it on the front page.
	They just have the photo.
	And the article would be Perry Leeds Prayer Rally.
	For Nation in Crisis?
	Yeah.
	Let me see.
	Oh, yeah.
	No, they have the little picture.
	It's part of a video.
	On the website.
	That's cool.
	Zeke Heil!
	And he's on the big screen above the stage.
	Wow.
	But apparently this thing didn't sell out.
	Oh, there it is.
	Oh, my goodness.
	There's the picture.
	Hold on.
	Post that in the chat room.
	They'll love that.
	Hold on.
	It's hilarious.
	Oh, wow.
	Participants pray and sing during the response.
	A national day of prayer.
	If anybody takes this guy seriously at this point after we've already gone through one idiot from Texas, I think we're going to have serious problems.
	Because Rick Perry is like somebody, I think one of the left-wing talk show guys said, you know, when you put Rick Perry and George Bush together, George Bush is the smart one.
	I still think it's a funny line.
	Well, but, you know, I talk to a lot of people in Austin, and, you know, they want nothing to do with them.
	They really, at least our people, the smart people, just want to throw a shoe at them, or a boot, as it were.
	Because this guy is a total, total douchebag.
	And he is so corrupt.
	But unfortunately, a lot of what he's doing is working.
	You know, a lot of...
	By the way, it's kind of a hot chick in the yellow dress in that picture.
	You see what I'm saying?
	He's got nice legs.
	Yeah.
	So, um...
	Anyway, the rest of the New York Times front page has got, you know, they brought it, this is where you got the warns of further cuts from the S&P guy who's now in full battle with our own government, which will be fun to watch.
	Hey, wait a minute, John, wait a minute.
	Look at the woman in the blue with the ponytail.
	She looks like she's going to puke.
	She's sitting there like, ugh, like she has a tummy ache.
	Oh, yeah.
	You know, the New York Times, you don't think they're like leftists or anything, do you?
	Yeah.
	You don't think they're trying to portray this guy in a bad light with this Heil Hitler thing?
	Wow.
	Sorry, I didn't mean to interrupt.
	It's pretty obvious.
	So, they talked about the downing of the chopper on the front page.
	They talked about the S&P on the front page.
	The markets expected credit ruling, but risk remained.
	That's bullcrap.
	Nobody expected it that I know of.
	Except me!
	Hello!
	Hello!
	Except me!
	And then they have the last Below the Fold story is that one of the schizophrenics apparently can get through the day with moments of self-conversation.
	Exactly what?
	Learning to cope with the mind's taunting voices.
	Wait a minute.
	So when you're hearing your voices, you sit down and you have a chat.
	I have a chat with myself.
	I'm going to sit right down and write myself a letter of character.
	character.
	So that's it for today's New York Times.
	John's gonna hum the Sunday time.
	Sometimes there's just too much irony in the news, my friend.
	I love the best I say.
	The chapel was on the adventure trip of a lifetime, exploring a glacier on a Norwegian island 700 miles inside the Arctic Circle.
	The group were asleep when a polar bear attacked their camp.
	Horatio was killed and two other boys, Patrick Flinders and Scott Bennell Smith, were hurt.
	The trip was organised by the British School Exploring Society, based here, and those on the glacier had been sent there to take measurements for an ongoing scientific study into climate change.
	I mean, it's horrible to laugh about this.
	It's horrible to laugh about it, and I'm telling you, climate change is killing people.
	Yeah, it's killing people because there are so many polar bears, they're hungry.
	I mean, that's just irony.
	Yeah, it's just kind of a sick joke, you're right.
	It's a sick joke, but the irony of it is, you know, they go to investigate climate change, where, you know, part of the whole farce is that polar bears are dying off, and even the polar bears are sick and tired of this crap.
	Most of the polar bears, now it turns out half these polar bear shots are photoshopped.
	Oh yeah.
	You know, it's ridiculous.
	I've seen more than a couple of photoshopped jobs.
	What was a polar bear?
	I think Rolling Stone this month is running...
	Hold on a second.
	Rolling Stone Al Gore.
	Rolling Stone is running an old article.
	By Al Gore.
	Oh, why?
	Yeah, called Climate of Denial.
	But there was something in there.
	We're like the Prophets of Doom or something.
	People who...
	Deniers of Doom.
	I'm trying to look for the actual...
	What was the...
	Wow, I can't find it now.
	But it's kind of weird that they're running an article from June.
	They're running now as their cover article.
	That was kind of interesting.
	Anyway, while you were watching cartoons, I was scouring...
	So you don't have to.
	That's right.
	I was scouring the Federal Register and came across a brand new document, penned, of course, with the auto-pen, by our president, Barack Obama, August 4th, 2011, Presidential Study Directive on Mass Atrocities.
	And this is a...
	So I... You know, presidential directives...
	What kind of legal...
	What jurisprudence do these have, in your opinion, Professor Dvorak?
	I don't know, actually.
	You're typing.
	They're not like an executive order.
	It's like a suggestion.
	Yeah, but I think there's like...
	I remember there's a lot of people talking about PD-51.
	A presidential directive, I think, is...
	There's something to it.
	There's some legal status that we might need to look into.
	Let me read it from the Book of Knowledge.
	Oh, please.
	Better known as Presidential Decision Directives, or PDDs, are a form of an executive order issued by the President with advice and consent of the National Security Council.
	So it's spook-related.
	As a national security instrument, the PDD articulates the executive's policy, carries the full force and effect of law, so it's like an executive order, And throughout the terms of presidents have taken on various titles or intents towards national security policy.
	So what is a presidential study directive?
	I don't know.
	That means they have to do a study whether they like it or not.
	So this is a memorandum for the Vice President, the Secretary of State, Secretary of the Treasury, Secretary of Defense, Attorney General, Secretary of Homeland Security.
	Now, all the shills are there.
	It's a huge list.
	Do they get overtime is the question.
	Of course, of course they do.
	Counsel to the President, Assistant to the President for Legislative Affairs, Chairman of the Joint Se- So everybody.
	All the squirrel people.
	And let me read you a portion from this, because this, to me, basically said, or says to the rest of the world, we're coming to kick your ass.
	And here's how it works.
	Sixty-six years ago, since the Holocaust, and 17 years after Rwanda, the United States still lacks a comprehensive policy framework and a corresponding interagency mechanism for preventing and responding to mass atrocities and genocide.
	This has left us ill-prepared to engage early, proactively, and decisively to prevent threats from evolving into large-scale civilian atrocities.
	But what does this sound like to you?
	Well...
	Yet another bypass of the War Powers Act.
	At least.
	Accordingly, I, Barack Obama, hereby direct the establishment of an Interagency Atrocities Prevention Board...
	Within 120 days from the date of this presidential study directive, the primary purpose of the Atrocities Prevention Board shall be to coordinate a whole-of-government approach to preventing mass atrocities and genocide.
	side by institutionalizing the coordination of atrocity prevention we can ensure one that our national security apparatus recognizes and is responsive to early indicators of potential atrocities and two that departments and agencies develop and implement comprehensive atrocity prevention
	and response strategies in a manner that allows red flags and dissident and dissent to be raised to decision makers three that we increase the capacity and develop doctrine for our foreign service armed service development professionals and other actors to engage in the full spectrum of smart prevention activities and
	And four, that we are optimally positioned to work with our allies in order to ensure that the burdens of atrocity prevention and response are appropriately shared.
	Goodbye, rest of the world.
	This is America.
	F yeah.
	This to me is disgusting.
	Was that a chuckle?
	Did you just chuckle on me?
	Yeah, I got you a chuckle there.
	You got me chuckling.
	It's really amazing.
	First of all, he pulls the Holocaust card.
	Now basically comparing all of these Arab Spring, false flag, techno expert, Hillary Clinton trained shills to the Holocaust.
	And Rwanda.
	And saying, you know, if an atrocity occurs, and of course, what is an atrocity?
	How do you define it?
	I think the atrocity in the United States is people are starving.
	How about all the prisoners we've got?
	Yeah, slaves.
	That's an atrocity right there.
	And this means that this will be an entire security apparatus set up to go and, I don't know, kill brown people?
	So, did you listen to Obama's recent speeches?
	Yeah, of course.
	Well, he's basically saying the same thing on every speech.
	Have you noticed exactly the same?
	They downgrade the debt.
	He says the same thing.
	They do one thing or another.
	He says the same thing.
	It's really weird, I think.
	But play Obama's gall, which is the one that he's brought up the other day, which is just like, is this the best we can do?
	Is this like a pep talk?
	He looks older, by the way.
	Yeah, he does.
	But what I want the American people and our partners around the world to know is this.
	We are going to get through this.
	Things will get better.
	We're going to get there together.
	Kumbaya, my lord!
	Kumbaya!
	Yeah, there's a lot of this.
	It's almost continuously the American Dream speech.
	He just doesn't quite say it every single time, but it's like, you know, hey, it sucks.
	Eat your peas.
	We're going to get through this together.
	Here's another one.
	He's got the made in America.
	I missed the beginning of this.
	Unfortunately, I couldn't find it because he basically is still on this theme of just getting by, which he's starting to see.
	He doesn't know that he's saying.
	I don't know why anyone hasn't.
	Well, we're the only guys who seem to have spotted this, but I guarantee you that Republicans eventually will pick it up.
	Yesterday I proposed a new tax credit for companies that hire veterans who are looking for work after serving their country.
	Yeah, this is from his public address.
	Yeah.
	We've got a lot of honorable and skilled people returning from Iraq and Afghanistan and companies that could benefit from their abilities.
	Let's put them together.
	No one's hiring anybody, pal.
	We need to make sure that millions of workers who are still pounding the pavement looking for jobs are not...
	Pounding?
	Pounding the pavement.
	Hold on.
	How you doing there, Johnny Boy?
	You pounding your pavement?
	I'm pounding it.
	I'm pounding it.
	I'm pounding.
	...unemployment benefits to carry them through hard times.
	We've got to cut red tape that stops too many inventors and entrepreneurs from quickly turning new ideas into thriving business.
	What's that?
	Oh, yeah, EPA. It's his EPA....holds back our whole economy.
	It's time Congress finally passed a set of trade deals that would help displace workers looking for new jobs and that would allow our businesses to sell more products in countries in Asia and South America.
	Products stamped with three words.
	Made in America.
	Made in America.
	Hey, hey brown person, see this Hellfire missile that's about to fly up your butt?
	Made in America.
	Yee-haw!
	Raytheon.
	Made in America, boy!
	Yeah, if only Obama would keep to his promise from 2009.
	We've spent this amount of money.
	We're not seeing the results.
	We've got to change course dramatically.
	Look, I'm at the start of my administration.
	One nice thing about the situation I find myself in is that I will be held accountable.
	I've got four years.
	You're going to know quickly how people feel about what's happening.
	That's exactly right.
	And a year from now, I think people are going to see that we're starting to make some progress, but there's still going to be some pain out there.
	If I don't have this done in three years, then there's going to be a one-term proposition.
	That's exactly what you're cruising for, my friend.
	A one-term proposition.
	And you're going to quit because you want to spend time with Malika and Shaniqua.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	What are you going to do?
	Well, I got one thing if we want to get a little kind of something kind of odd in a not so amusing way.
	There was a, if you might remember, this was a few months back.
	This Iraqi fart ran down his daughter and her friend because the daughter was dating some guy that was outside the circle of things.
	It was an honor killing killed her.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	It's what you do with your kids.
	So, of course, the Arizona people, they finally found him guilty of manslaughter.
	They couldn't get him for murder, even though he was plotting, because the DA couldn't seem to get the message across about honor killings being a societal thing in certain cultures.
	Because they talked to some of the jurors afterwards, and it went, I don't know.
	Honor killing?
	So anyway, but the thing is, they released the tape in the meantime.
	This was on CNBC or one of these...
	They released a tape of them talking to the initial police call to the guy's wife, the murderer's wife, who they prefaced with.
	I don't know if I got too much of this on the tape, but apparently she was actually hired by the U.S. government.
	This woman to train people on Muslim trained troops, American troops on the Muslim culture.
	Now, I don't know about you, but if you listen to this woman and the back and forth between her and the policeman, you have to wonder how she got hired in the first place, A.
	And B, what kind of maniacs are?
	I mean, this is the nuttiest thing you'll ever hear play.
	...in U.S. troops about Arab culture before their deployment to the Middle East.
	Detective Bill Lang reached her by phone and recorded the conversation.
	It's never been broadcast before.
	And it is chilling.
	Hi, this is Detective Bill Lang of the Peoria Police Department.
	I'm calling in reference to your husband.
	Have you heard from him lately?
	I don't know anything about anything.
	What happened was Noor, she was with Amal, and they were at the Department of Economic Security.
	Salad ended up running them down with his vehicle.
	Who said my husband?
	Maybe it's not my husband.
	This woman, she's a liar because she's dirty.
	If it's not your husband, then where is he?
	I don't know.
	Your daughter is about close to dying.
	Close to dying?
	Yes, she's in clinical condition.
	Okay.
	Tell her, thank you, Emil.
	Thank you.
	That's what she needs.
	You're a sick individual.
	I'm a good person, and my husband, he's a good person, and we are a good family.
	But this family is dirty.
	I want to see my daughter!
	We're not mentioning where she's at.
	And you were just saying how what happened to them was deserved.
	We are Muslim.
	We can't kill my daughter.
	She's my heart.
	My husband, I don't care about him.
	I want to see my daughter.
	We cannot release her location at this time.
	I look at every hospital.
	I want to go everywhere.
	And I talk.
	The president is not service.
	You know that?
	You just sat there and told me that everything that happened to them was okay.
	And now all of a sudden you have concern for your daughter.
	No.
	It doesn't work that way.
	Yeah, I think these tax credits that Obama is passing is to hire people like this.
	I mean, what was this woman...
	How was she working for the government teaching troops about Middle Eastern culture?
	She sounds like a complete psycho.
	Mm-hmm.
	Wow.
	Anyway, I thought I'd just bring that out to liven up the conversation.
	Yeah, just make me feel good.
	Did you...
	No, this was a big tech story.
	By the way, are you on Twit today?
	No.
	We need to get you back on Twit to promote the show, man.
	I was just on Twit a couple weeks ago.
	You've got to go back again.
	It's good for us.
	I'll be on for their big party.
	So I'm sure you saw the story at the Black Hat Conference, which sounds like, oh, this is hackers, this is hackers.
	And this was in Gadget and all the CNET. And it was like, wow, you know, these guys, they created a drone that can go listen to your cell phone.
	These hackers are awesome.
	And this really bothered me, this story.
	Did you see this?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, you saw the video of the drone and everything.
	So it was built by this guy named Michael Tassi.
	And I'm like, so what are they trying to tell me with this story?
	In fact, I think I might have a clip.
	Let me just check.
	Yeah, I've got a clip here.
	Just listen to this for a moment.
	It's kind of interesting.
	There's a new bug flying around.
	It can sting you from 400 feet away and you wouldn't even know it.
	It's called a remote-controlled plane called WASP, or Wireless Aerial Surveillance Platform.
	CNN explains.
	It can intercept your cell phone conversations and even reroute your calls to another number.
	It can trace the location of specific people and follow them home, and steal information from a target's home network.
	International Business Times reports the six-foot-long drone can weigh up to 16 pounds.
	It can fly for 30 to 45 minutes at an altitude of 22,000 feet, though legally it can only go as far as 400 feet.
	And at just 50 feet, you won't even hear it coming.
	Sounds like quite the project, but it's not, and that's the problem.
	The two researchers who developed WASP say it's quiet, cheap, and able to be built in a garage using hand tools and open source technology at a fraction of the cost.
	But don't start ducking just yet.
	Wired tells us there's still some good that can come from the prying plane.
	They would be great for providing emergency cellular access to regions hit by a disaster.
	They could also run search and rescue missions for lost hikers.
	So this is, unfortunately, another psyops.
	And so I look up this guy, Michael Tassi, and so wired and gadget, everyone's repeating the same thing.
	If they can do it, we can do it.
	You know who this guy is?
	He's the director of IA and Cybersecurity Solutions at Engineering Systems Solutions, which is a huge government contractor for the army.
	They are promoting the fact that you should be ready for these drones to be flying around overhead protecting you because they can do it.
	They can build it in their garage.
	It's a sales job.
	That's what it sounds like.
	Yeah!
	It's PR. Yeah!
	You've got a good public relations agency.
	Give me a break.
	Yeah, well, this is a huge government contract, and everyone's like...
	What's the name of the company?
	We can figure out who the public relations agency is, and then track it to the reporter, and finally they're just doing nothing but reading from a press clip.
	Let's see, it's Engineering...
	Like everything else.
	Engineering System Solutions.
	You find it at ESSworld.net.
	Let's see if they have...
	Oh, news.
	Here we go.
	News.
	Let's see if they...
	Lincoln Labs, Defense...
	No.
	No.
	Not immediately apparent.
	But they're a huge government contractor, founder, chief executive officer, officer Jay Nathan, retired Air Force officer.
	Power of the team.
	Yeah.
	It's a total sales job to get you ready and prepared for Drone Nation.
	Well, you know, by the way, somebody out there, dronenation.com, we need it.
	Yeah.
	So, this is what we talk about.
	We've talked about it before.
	The country's going to...
	In fact, I think it was one of the kids that asked me this the other day.
	When do you...
	Or it was either you last Thursday.
	Yes, I'm a kid.
	When do you expect to see the first...
	Real drones flying around.
	Oh, they're already flying around.
	And you'll never guess who's operating them.
	You ready for this?
	The sun rises over another day of misery in Minot, North Dakota.
	Farms, businesses, and thousands of homes all underwater.
	Not even the Red Cross is safe.
	This video, shot by a drone-mounted camera, offers a unique perspective on the disaster.
	This is the Daily.
	It's called the Daily Drone.
	It's Murdoch's...
	Daily Drone.
	Yeah, it's called the Daily Drone.
	This is Murdoch's office.
	I worked at places where they used to call me.
	Yeah.
	Hold on.
	Very good.
	Nice one.
	The Daily Drone.
	This is from the Daily.
	From that iPad app.
	They've got the Daily Drone flying around.
	And by the way, great footage.
	Oh, by the way, here's a good one.
	There's ESS. There were press releases in 2009 come out of Frederick, Maryland.
	Frederick or Fredericksburg?
	No, just Frederick.
	That's one of the spook centers.
	Hilarious.
	Anyway, the FAA is probing News Corp's use of drones.
	FAA spokeswoman Laura Brown says her agency is investigating whether the Daily's use of unmanned aerial systems violates FAA regulations.
	Yeah.
	Because, you know, we can't have you guys doing that.
	We can't be, like, flying drones.
	That's our job.
	Go away.
	Here's another good one with ESS. What do you think their off-site offices are?
	Langley?
	Fort Detrick.
	It's so funny!
	Isn't that where all the flying saucers were supposedly stored?
	What do you mean?
	That's where they are stored.
	What's your problem?
	Oh, I'm sorry.
	Oops.
	Oops.
	But it's just so hilarious that, you know, these great...
	You watch this be a topic on Twit, I guarantee you.
	Yeah, man, we gotta get...
	This is scary.
	Terrorists can build drones.
	No, it's your government building the drones.
	And they're preparing you for total acceptance.
	Speaking of which, though, I put it in the show notes on the last show, 327.anyshownotes.com, and I put another link in.
	I've been getting daily at least 10 to 15 solar flare, solar storm alerts on my app.
	Really?
	Big ones.
	Yeah, like M-class.
	So normally it's C-class.
	I got an M9 the other day, and we could actually see satellite transmissions go down.
	There's now news.
	Solar flares can cause some radio blackouts.
	They cause some radio blackouts Wednesday and Thursday, cause disruptions of high-frequency communications with airplanes flying over the Atlantic and Pacific Oceans.
	Really?
	So, you know, this is perfect opportunity for something to go down.
	Another Airbus.
	Oh wait, I'm sorry, it's Boeing's turn to crash.
	So if you go to the ESS, I hate to keep harping on this.
	It's fun, isn't it?
	These guys are great.
	Hey, Wired, good job!
	If you go to the Board of Advisors and click on the link, it's pretty funny.
	Where do I find it?
	Under...
	What about us?
	Go to...
	Oh yeah, Board of Advisors.
	I got it here.
	Board of Advisors.
	Who do we have?
	I bet there's some good shills in there.
	Wait, is it empty?
	It's an empty page.
	Funny.
	Alright, as we start to wind down the show, it's very difficult to end the show without...
	Well, we need a new jingle, basically, but...
	33.
	Announcing 33.
	It should be stock tips of the week.
	MasterCard second quarter profit jumps 33%.
	Great Plains second quarter profit drops 33% on weaker electric segment.
	Here's a stock tip.
	Goldman Sachs.
	Oh, I already had this one, I think.
	Oh, yeah.
	Recession, 33% likely.
	QE3 is coming.
	GDP will only grow 2%.
	And then my favorite.
	Justin Bieber saves Paramount.
	Home Entertainment up 33%.
	So, uh...
	What was the Goldman story again?
	I'm making notes on this to try to figure out what the...
	I'm working on decoding it.
	Goldman Sachs' recession is 33% likely.
	Now, this is exactly what Larry Summers said, former economic advisor to Obama.
	So now Goldman Sachs is either parroting it or...
	I heard someone on a local radio station, as we got a little more into Tennessee, Kentucky, there were some local talk shows.
	By the way, AM band, silent.
	There's nothing going on here.
	Really?
	No.
	Nothing.
	Maybe it's the wrong antenna or something.
	I don't know.
	Maybe the FM antenna won't work on the AM on the radio in the Duchess.
	But there was a guy who said, Double dip recession?
	That's impossible.
	Because we never even got out of the first one.
	That's a good point.
	33.
	Announcing 33.
	And I think that is about all that I got, John, unless you have something else.
	No, I'm good.
	We should probably wrap this up.
	This, by the way, for those of you who ask every single time, it's the Marriott Jazz Quintet on the Seventh Day is the title of this track.
	It is Podsafe, and you can go consult the Book of Knowledge and find that somewhere.
	Well, John, our next program will be coming to you from Cleveland.
	Ooh, Cleveland rocks.
	Cleveland rocks, indeed.
	You ever been to Cleveland?
	Uh, yeah.
	No, I haven't.
	I've been to Columbus, Ohio.
	It's a hellhole.
	Yay!
	Well, someone has offered us their house.
	They're not even home.
	And yeah, House, their Mini Cooper, and their neighbor and good friends who are also fans of the show, is a weapons expert and will be taking us out shooting.
	Oh, that's going to be so much fun.
	Oh yeah.
	You know, the thought of Miss Mickey with a Glock turns me on.
	Right, I'll take that silence as agreement from your end.
	Coming to you from the land of Lincoln, the great state of Illinois, everybody.
	Thank you so much for your support.
	We'll talk to you again on the next No Agenda program.
	In the morning, I'm Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley, where the tomatoes are in season and they're delicious, I'm John C. Dvorak.
	Remember, next on the stream, the No Agenda producer update.
	We'll talk to you again on Thursday, right here on No Agenda.
	Adios, mofo.

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