I mean, we manipulate the media because the media's a bunch of idiots anyway.
Adam Curry, John C. DeVorex.
Sunday, April 17, 2011.
Time for your Gitmo Nation Media Assassination Episode 296.
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I think we're at 700 or 800 right now.
They're all charged up and ready to go exactly the way their government loves them and needs them to complete their valuation of $9.1 million in a lifetime.
A short couple of days there between shows, and tons and tons and tons of interesting stuff.
Really?
I found nothing.
Well, I found, right off the bat, I found it very interesting how the Ministry of Truth came out with the secretly recorded audio of Obama.
Yes, which I have a copy of.
Now, do you have the full copy where he's talking about the White House phone system being lame?
No.
Because this is now reported as...
Do you have that copy?
No.
No.
Of course not, because it's fake.
The whole thing is fake.
Oh, duh.
Duh.
Duh.
Winning.
Yeah, but it's like everywhere is like, well, you know, he didn't realize the microphone was on.
Oh, really?
It's not how he realized it.
It sounds like he was reading from a prompt.
Is the mic on?
Is the mic on?
Yeah, it is.
Okay, go, President.
It was so phony.
If he wants to call these guys out as douchebags, why doesn't he have the balls to do it?
Well, he's campaigning now.
Some genius went, I got a great idea.
We got to make him sound tough and use words like, we're not stupid.
We're not stupid.
Yeah, we'll make them sound tough.
That's it.
That's it.
Yeah, you know what we're going to do?
Get that compromised guy from CBS. Which one?
Well, choose one.
They're all compromised.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
We'll release it.
Here's the menu.
Meanwhile, this is absolutely...
It's like, I want the whole recording then.
You know, where's the whole recording?
No, it's just bits and pieces.
The funny one was...
It's around somewhere.
No, it's not.
I hate to tell you, but it's not.
No, it has to be.
Wait, are you telling me that they released this and then they edited it after?
No, that's exactly what I'm telling you.
CBS News, and that's the premier place to look because it was a CBS reporter.
That was an ABC, was it CBS? No, no, CBS. No, no, they're all compromised.
Yeah, what?
It was a CBS guy.
Okay, it was CBS. The only thing, you know, they have like two bits of it, and then there's a couple of other...
Well, so people know what we're talking about.
Let's play.
I have the clipped up version.
Duh, like I don't have a clip of it.
Well, I didn't think you probably would have figured I would have had a clip of it.
Oh, no, no.
I never take that risk.
Did you hear what President Obama said at his fundraiser?
Now, he didn't mean it for public dissemination, but he got caught by a hot mic.
He didn't mean it for public dissemination.
No, this was meant to be secret.
And it was taped.
Now, here's what he said.
Do you want to repeal health care?
Go at it.
Go ahead, bitches.
We'll have that debate.
You're not going to be able to do that by nickel and diming me in the budget.
Do you think we're stupid?
When Paul Ryan says his priority is to make sure that we're...
He's just being America's accountant and trying to be responsible.
This is the same guy who voted for two wars that were unpaid for, voted for the Bush tax cuts that were unpaid for, voted for the prescription drug bill that cost as much as my health care bill but wasn't paid for.
That's all you got?
I got more than that.
Oh, you beat me?
Yeah, that's all you got?
That's all you got?
Oh, no.
There he is.
There he is.
So, finally, after four years, you have a slide whistle.
Congratulations, child.
I'm so happy for you.
I'm a little slow on the draw.
No, the one that I really wanted.
Was this in Chicago where this took place?
Was that where this recording is from?
I'd already died somewhere.
Okay, because then this is a report.
It took place in the White House studio.
I'm sorry, what am I thinking?
That's right, in the White House green screen room.
A donor is in his hometown of Chicago.
This is the audio I want.
He says, we can't get our phones to work.
Come on, guys.
I'm the president of the United States.
Where's the fancy buttons and stuff where the big screens come up?
It doesn't happen.
I always thought I was going to have really cool phones and stuff.
That's a good one.
That's why I wanted the audio.
That's the clip we want.
That's an embarrassing clip, so they wouldn't play that.
No, of course not.
This is why you know it's not true.
He goes even further, answering questions about bottlenecks and technological innovation.
The president says, well, technology purchasing throughout the U.S. government is horrible.
It's true in the Pentagon.
It's true in the agencies.
It's true in the Department of Homeland Security.
He did, however, say that federal government workers were, on the whole, smart and dedicated.
It's like, really?
It's like, you know, what?
So, anyway, so here's the other clip of audio that I got that I liked because I saw this guy being interviewed by Wolf Blitzer.
I'm sorry, it's...
Will Blitzer, exclusive interview with the Amir of Qatar.
Or you say Cutter.
Everyone says Cutter.
And whenever you say Cutter, like I always have to think of when I was a kid, we had a neighbor whose dog was named Cutter because he was always cutting the cheese.
Doesn't sound right, Cutter.
Wouldn't it be Qatar?
Sounds better than Cutter.
They say you can pronounce it either way, but if you listen to a cuterese speak it, they say it in some really kind of a guttural way that's different than both.
Okay, so we should, like, square, we should say...
So here's Obama talking about, and this should help you with the Ministry of Truth Dissemination, dissection, talking about his meeting with the Emir of Qatar.
Of course, he had the, you know, this is before Wolf got to talk to him.
It was interesting, I had the Emir of Qatar come by the Oval Office of Quebec.
And...
They, you know, he owns Al Jazeera, basically.
I like that he says that.
He owns, basically, you know, he owns Al Jazeera.
Can we just, like, all understand this for a moment?
Yeah, well, we also have to understand that he is also owned by MI6. Duh!
Pretty influential guy.
Winning.
And, uh...
I love the slaves in the audience.
Yeah!
Yeah!
Pretty influential guy.
Yeah!
Go Al Jazeera!
He is...
A big booster, big promoter of democracy all throughout the Middle East.
Reform, reform, reform.
You're seeing it on Al Jazeera.
Now, he himself is not reforming.
Now, you erred over it, but he said something very interesting.
Listen again.
And he is a big booster, big promoter of democracy all throughout the Middle East.
Reform, reform, reform.
You're seeing it on Al Jazeera.
So he's literally saying it.
He's literally saying that the message is being pumped through Al Jazeera.
Now, he himself is not reforming significantly.
Let me rattle my diamonds.
There's no big move towards democracy in Qatar.
This is such a, hey, hey, Amir of Qatar, look out, bitch.
I got my eye on you.
That's exactly what this is.
You know, part of the reason is that The per capita income of Qatar is $145,000 a year.
Yeah, so this was the story.
So now, here's how he's going to spin this.
And this will become something he'll be talking about more.
Wait a minute, go back and play it again.
Does he say the capital income?
Yes.
Is that supposed to be?
Per capita is what he wanted to say, right?
I think he means per capita.
Let's see.
You know, part of the reason is that The per capita income?
No, he's the per capita.
But now listen to how he kind of like muffles away what that means.
Qatar is $145,000 a year.
That will dampen a lot of conflict.
If everyone was as rich as we were, why would we be pissed off slaves?
$145,000 a year.
Now, keep in mind, they have like 1.7 million people, and 75% of them...
He's starting to do the math, a genius president.
And watch how he traps himself.
...aren't even Qatari.
They're from all over the world.
You know, Filipinos and Pakistanis and...
You know, average income is $145,000 a year.
Now, granted, it's, you know, if you look at the curve...
Oh, right!
Duh!
Yeah, there's 1.7 million people, of which 100,000 are multi-billionaires, and the rest are slaves.
Yeah, then your average is $145,000.
And he tries to, like, get out of it.
I'm sure that...
Not every laborer there is...
But...
Crap!
Crap!
How could I mess that up?
Crap.
Idiot.
But he's so funny, man.
He provides so much entertainment.
It's going to get worse because he's on the road and he's campaigning now, which means he's going to be in a lot of these casual conversations where he's overconfident.
Leaked audio.
Oh, his hubris is outrageous.
I'm reminded of the hubris.
Did you hear what AMC is up to with their new reality show?
Yeah, the Department of Homeland Security reality show.
I mean, talk about hubris.
How dumb do you have to be?
I love it.
Yeah, no, I love it.
And you know what the show's going to be called?
If you see something, say something.
Doesn't that sound perfect?
We can, Jeff Smith, Sir Jeff Smith, we can sell this to Lucy Napolitano.
She will love it.
And now, ladies and gentlemen, it's time for...
If you see something, say something.
With Lucy Napolitano, starring as Lucy.
With the pat down of the six-year-old.
And the eight-year-old is a new one now.
Oh, is there?
Great.
So our president does his weekly address to everybody.
And, once again, he pulls out the H-word, and it's starting to really bother me.
Now, one plan put forward by some Republicans in the House of Representatives aims to reduce our deficit by $4 trillion over the next 10 years.
But while I think their goal is worthy, I believe their vision is wrong for America.
It's a vision that says, at a time when other nations are hustling to out-compete us for the jobs...
They're hustling, John.
Damn them.
They're hustling again.
We're not hustling hard enough.
Who's hustling?
What does that mean?
It doesn't mean anything.
He likes the word.
Yeah, he sure does.
And he finally admitted that he's an elitist bastard.
Oh, well, I'm surprised it took him this long.
Huh?
I'm surprised it took him this long.
Have a listen.
We'll reduce spending in our tax code with tax reform that's fair and simple so that the amount of taxes you pay doesn't depend on how clever an accountant you can afford.
And we should end the tax cuts for the wealthiest Americans, too.
Because people like me don't need another tax cut.
Okay.
That's a good one.
I look at that and I'm like, okay, wow.
You know who the other guy is who keeps saying that about himself?
I don't need another tax cut.
No, who's that?
Buffett.
Oh, Buffett.
He's senile.
He's running on a chip.
The guy can't actually be doing anything.
I don't trust him.
I don't like him.
I don't trust him.
Sorry I mentioned his name.
Yeah, sitting there in Omaha.
He's not in Omaha.
Yeah, he is.
Oh, he's in Seattle and San Francisco most of the time.
Yeah, but the whole outfit, the whole operation is in Omaha.
Yeah, like you said, he doesn't have anything to do with it.
He's always in Omaha.
He's like at the donut shop.
He just shows up for that one meeting.
I thought he was at the donut shop hanging out in the pedo bear central there.
So, very annoying, once again, on the last program.
We caught White House spokeswoman Jay Carney tripping over his words, substituting Syria for Libya.
And, of course, the White House press corps, that stellar group of Woodward and Bernstein's, He made a funny...
You meant Libya, not Syria.
No, he meant Syria.
And no sooner have we ended the show as what shows up.
You actually sent me a link to it.
Yeah, it was like as soon as the show was over.
I was annoyed by the fact we didn't pick it up during the show.
Yeah, right.
So if you want to know what the path to Persia is and what is happening next, there's only two guys you have to listen to.
Only two.
Because they are the frontrunners.
They are the warmongers.
And it's McCain.
George McCain.
And this guy, Lieberman.
Lieberman does it again.
And he's great at telegraphing.
I mean, can we just put a camera on Lieberman all the time?
We should have a reality show around Lieberman rather than around Lucy Napolitano.
It's Larry Lieberman, everybody.
So he gets asked about Syria.
And I don't know if he was prepared or not.
I have to presume he was.
But he basically just pulled out the...
He was asked about Syria.
I'm sorry.
He pulled out the Libya script.
What should we do about Syria?
Well, let me say first that it's very important for everybody to understand that what we're doing with the world community in Libya is what the Arab world wants us to do, what the Arab street wants us to do.
Isn't that great?
So all of a sudden now we do what the Arabs want us to do?
Okay.
So, finally, we are on the side of the massive people yearning to be free within the Arab world.
Secondly, I think the world has made a very clear statement in Libya, which is being heard by both the Arab people and the Arab dictators elsewhere in the region.
And I'd say with regard to Syria that Assad...
Now, he has a good name, right?
We've got to get used to the name Assad.
Assad.
You have to know the background here.
You had the first Assad, which was the guy who ran the place until he dropped dead and his son took over the second Assad.
But the first Assad was a real nasty person that nobody was going to mess with.
And if you even said anything about him or even wrote an op-ed in a national newspaper, you would get a death threat.
Right.
And he's the guy who's notorious for, there was some town that had a little skirmish, a protest, a couple guys holding signs.
I can't remember the name of it, but it's easy to look up.
It's in Wikipedia.
A town of 40,000 people.
Because of this one protest, he killed everybody in the town and then took bulldozers and bulldozed the town.
There's no town there.
Now, is this the guy currently or is this the previous guy?
No, that's the dad.
Oh, very good.
Nobody was saying nothing when he was in charge.
No, because you don't want to, like, get bulldozed.
And so the kid took over and, you know, he can't possibly be the horrible person his dad was, Stalin.
And so they're going to push him over.
So there's a running meme.
So it's the Assad meme.
So everyone's like, oh, Assad, yeah, oh, he's bad.
I've heard about him.
He's bad.
But this is like the third Assad in the line.
It actually might be the third, but I know for a fact it's the second.
The one before him, the dad, was the kick-ass guy.
I mean, this guy was just nasty.
And he was also responsible, as we believe, for most terror operations, all of them, including the Lockerbie thing.
Yeah.
Oh, he was involved in that too?
He was involved in everything.
And his whole way, as I was explaining to me once, by an Arab as a matter of fact.
The Hama Massacre is what it was.
Hama.
Yeah, that's it.
And he was involved in just about everything because there's one of the few countries that doesn't have a real big supply of oil, if any.
Ah, they have something though.
I know what they have.
They have something now?
No, they've got something.
It's not oil.
Let's listen to Larry Lieberman's show again.
By the way, if you're new to the show, yes, we know his name is Joe, but for purposes of his reality program, management has decided Larry sounds better.
Dictator there.
Dictator.
And probably is getting a very clear message.
If he turns his weapons on his people and begins to slaughter them as Gaddafi did...
No, no, we stopped...
But is this the same script?
Yes, we stopped Qaddafi from slaughtering, dude.
What are you talking about?
You can't have it both ways.
Oh, he said Qaddafi did.
Yeah, he said, as Qaddafi did, as Qaddafi did.
If he turns his weapons on his people and begins to slaughter them, as Qaddafi did, he's going to run the risk of having the world community come in and impose a no-fly zone and protect civilian population just as we're doing.
Can't they come up with a new plan?
No, because it works so well.
And all of the slaves go, okay, okay.
In Libya.
And therefore, Assad has one choice, and that is to negotiate with the freedom fighters in Syria.
Oh, they've got freedom fighters there too, all of a sudden.
The freedom fighters, yeah.
It's not protest, by the way, anymore.
It's freedom fighters.
John, freedom fighters.
Hey, how can you oppose a freedom fighter?
You can't.
You can't.
To create an entirely different government there.
Let me just interrupt very briefly, Senator Lieberman.
We're running out of time, but are you suggesting that you would support some kind of international coalition to go in and do in Syria what we're doing now in Libya?
What kind of question is that, you idiot?
Duh!
If Assad does what Qaddafi was doing, which is to threaten the house and kill anybody who's not on his side, there's a precedent.
Was Qaddafi doing that, John?
House to house?
House to house!
Hello, open up!
Assad does what Gaddafi was doing, which is to threaten to go house to house and kill anybody who's not on his side.
There's a precedent now that the world community has set in Libya, and it's the right one.
We're not going to stand by and allow this Assad to slaughter his people like his father did years ago.
And in doing so, we're being consistent with our American values, and we're also on the side of the Arab people.
Let me see.
Go Arabs!
I'm so confused.
9-11 is a bad Arab.
Now it's like, good Arab.
I don't know what to do anymore.
So you asked the question, John.
That's the end of the clip?
Yeah, that's the end of the clip.
Yeah, I know.
So you asked the question.
I like that clip.
Well, I got a better one for you.
Yeah, I'm shooting my wad early in the show.
So, now we know why Libya was important, and it's too simple to say, ooh, it's blah, ooh.
Simple but true.
That's a little too simple because it was about the Chinese.
Well, the Chinese and oil.
Well, yeah, but you laid it out quite clearly, and we know that there's a lot of people from companies who were evacuated out of Libya, but by far the most were the 30,000 Chinese oil workers who were evacuated.
And I give you full credit for this.
You said, look, hear me now.
Believe me later.
Listen.
The Chinese were, you know, Libya was doing a deal with the Chinese and then Britain and France and the United States went, excuse me, we'll have none of that.
And whatever the reasons were, we have our suspicions, but that was really the impetus for going in and kicking the Chinese out and trying to take it over.
Right?
You with me on that?
Yeah, since this is my theory.
Yes.
So, Syria.
Now, why Syria?
Why Syria?
Ah, you've dug something up.
Yes, I have.
Well, let me say, it's the Chinese again.
I don't know.
No, it's not the Chinese.
No.
Wait, wait, let me guess.
George Clooney.
No!
It's got something to do with George Clooney.
If only.
If only.
So I have a clip here from Russia today.
And they still are not taking our advice.
In fact, they are doing exactly the opposite.
Instead of putting hot babes in there with doctorates and blonde hair named Natasha with a Russian accent, they have like an American chick.
And she's not winning.
They don't get it.
No, they don't get it, and until they get it, they'll never make it.
They won't have impact.
Have you watched Tom Hartman on that thing?
Oh, God, please.
Did he have an operation or something?
For one thing, he's lost a lot of weight, and apparently he can't read from a prompter because when he does, his eyes bug out.
Have you watched him?
Yeah, I know, and he tries to hide it behind the glasses, but it's not fooling me.
Yeah, his eyes get really big, and they bug out when he's trying to read from a prompter.
This is what I call a bad habit.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So, this woman from Russia Today has Paul Craig Roberts on the show.
Very long interview, of which I've only clipped a two-minute piece, but it's exactly the piece I wanted.
Came at the very end.
Paul Craig Roberts was a senior, I think he was an advisor in the Reagan administration.
You know what he did?
No, I don't remember him.
I mean, I'm sure he's part of the elite, but I think he's kind of old now, and he's kind of on the sidelines, so he takes money from Russia today.
But he calls it.
He not only calls Syria, he calls the reason why, and then how and when we're going to do it, basically.
Mediterranean, one issue I want to bring up.
You've written a little bit about Syria, where there is some protests going on now.
Do you think that the United States, Syria, is much closer to a Libya than...
As far as its relation to the United States than Egypt or other countries where we've seen protests, Bahrain, Yemen.
Do you think that Washington would get involved in Syria?
I think that's the intention.
You see, Syria provides the Russian naval base in the Mediterranean.
There it is!
They have the Russian naval base in the Mediterranean.
And of course, for people who don't know, these northern African countries are kind of like southern Mediterranean.
So now we're going to have the whole area, and we can't have a couple of Ruskies floating their boats there.
That's a little too close.
Now the Russians are going to put up with this one.
Well, that's the question, of course, as our fine interviewer asks.
How would it ever fly, though?
Because Russia has a base in Syria.
Russia would never get past the UN Security Council, I don't think.
Well, they won't necessarily go to the UN Security Council.
Who cares?
Let's just go kick their ass.
They got freedom fighters.
They got freedom fighters.
We have to arm them.
I think they do.
They will just act.
They will say, oh, these terrible things are happening.
We've got to save the Syrian people.
You know, who knows what they'll do.
They'll do what they think they can get away with.
And I can't predict that, but all I can observe is that in the case of Syria and Libya, there are these differences.
If they can overthrow those countries, they can get...
Russia out of the Mediterranean, and they can get China out of the Mediterranean, and that is probably a goal of the people in Washington.
So you have three big players, Russia, China, the United States, that kind of could all be pitted against each other in these two countries.
Do you think that this will escalate to a much larger issue between these three world powers?
You hear how horrible she is?
She's terrible.
Terrible, and she interrupts him at the wrong time?
She's a very poor interviewer.
Get rid of her.
Well, I'd like to, but I want to hear Paul Craig Roberts a little more.
It could.
I mean, they should fire her.
I understand.
Not you.
Poor teacher to act.
There's a risk.
I think the Americans are being too aggressive, given the nature of the risk for miscalculation.
There is a risk.
Just really quickly, what do you think it would take for there to be a tipping point?
What would the U.S. do that would make that tipping point?
They push too hard.
What pushes you hard?
Shut up!
You know, I don't know how China and Russia will view their national interest or what they would think is threatening.
I can't predict that because I'm not inside their minds.
But somewhere along the line there has to be a trip point where you push too far.
And the Americans are full of hubris, arrogance, And they don't mind using military power to extend their reach.
That's right.
I'm going to kick your ass.
Take your stuff.
I'm coming into your sandbox next.
Okay, well here's my...
I'm going to give you my prediction.
This is good.
Okay.
So...
Here's what I'm thinking.
Now, I know that the road to Iran is through Syria, and it was listed as one of the places that's going to be a problem.
It's called the path to Persia.
Yeah, that's it.
When I say the road to Iran, that's a Bob Hope movie I'm thinking of.
Is it really a Bob Hope movie?
The road to Iran?
No.
So anyway, no.
So there is something we want from Russia.
Yeah, better hosts on TV. That's all I want from Russia.
There's something going on.
There's a quid pro quo in the background.
Many years later, it took us the great Kennedy showdown in Cuba.
It took, I think, 20 years or 30 years before it was revealed that Kennedy's showdown almost brought us into World War III was a quid pro quo that was not discussed, which was they took...
They took their missiles out.
The Russians took their missiles out of Cuba, but we took out missiles, a bunch of missiles we had in Poland.
Turkey.
Turkey, I think, was.
Turkey.
I think this was Poland.
I think Turkey as well.
Well, there were some missiles that we released.
Whatever.
Some hardware.
And that was the deal.
And I think there's something going on here.
We have to just kind of do a little more deconstructing and figure out what it is, because there's no way...
The Russians are going to put up with this.
The Chinese were interlopers, and they know it.
They kind of snuck into Libya.
They started doing deals, and the next thing you know, we rousted them.
The Russians aren't interlopers.
They've been in the area forever.
Well, the Russians and the Chinese are doing business together now in oil in their own currency.
They don't trust each other.
They're not really good business partners.
Well, then what could it be?
What could it be that we want from Russia?
I don't know.
More hot spies, better TV hosts.
I don't know.
I tell you what, we'll figure it out within the next week or so.
It'll be obvious, because now that we're sniffing around, there'll be some little news article that'll crop up.
Oh, that's it.
Okay.
All right.
So this is what we do on this little program of ours.
This is why I get up at 5.30 in the morning on show days.
And I love it.
And you notice we weren't interrupted by a commercial during that.
And we didn't run out of time.
John, I'm sorry.
We've got to run out of time.
I can't finish this excellent piece of journalism.
Adam, we've got to take a break right now.
We'll be right back to this topic.
In fact, we're going to move on with another topic right after this break.
Squirrel!
Do we have any producers helping us out for this show?
Yeah, we got three executive producers, members of the 300 Club, and a couple of associates that we want to mention.
Let's begin with one of these other people that help us produce the show, along with all the other donors and producers.
Joseph Leeper, Peckin, Illinois.
He's Cordilla in the chat room and on Twitter.
Cordilla.
And he's been listening since early 2010 and has decided to finally stop being a boner and become a donor.
Hey, hey.
Hoping this gets me into 300 Club?
Well, it's the idea.
And it's the first of my three knighthood payments, so he's made it $330,333, which means you, Adam, have to kick in the extra penny.
That's right.
I'd also like to request some karma to help me get off my rear end and find work.
This is my brain.
You've got karma.
Yeah, if you're going to go to the knighthood, it might be handy.
Edward Beer Toysen.
Almost.
Try it again.
Edward Beer Toysen.
Beer Toysen.
Beer Toysen.
Edward Beer Toysen.
Guys, you're still doing a great job.
Thank you.
Please continue to do so for the next 300 episodes.
Okay.
I could use a bit of karma as I'm currently starting my own company.
Oh, alright.
It's always good to start your own company.
You've got karma.
Good luck there.
That's another $300 donor, executive producer Jesse Cruz in Highland Park, Illinois.
In the morning, John and Adam like to become a member of the 300 Club.
If you could please mention the gym I've been going to for the last couple of years, the newbreedchicago.com.
Jim, it's fun and ego-free.
It's a place to learn Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu, Muay Thai, MMA, and strength and conditioning.
We're going to need this guy somewhere down the line.
I hope he goes for the knighthood because you're right.
We're going to need some protection.
We need some protection.
This will be the guy.
We're like, hey, Jesse, Jesse, Jesse, Jesse.
You know, I got some problems over here.
There's a guy over here.
There's a guy who's like harassing me.
Good.
Some global warming guy.
So Hans-Jörg Schultz, 281.90.
Oh, he's back.
He's back.
Hans Jorg?
Yeah, he was in last week.
Well, this I think is different.
281.95.
Armin Breuer in Vienna.
$200.
Hi, John and Adam.
My slow-weighted nighthood.
I thought it might be a good idea to leap forward for once instead of taking a baby step.
So here's some cash.
And while we're at it, please send me some karma.
Absolutely.
Thank you so much for your help.
You've got karma.
And he says it works all the time.
All the time.
So that's our group of executive producers for show two...
Nine or six?
No, we only got four shows left and we're going to be at show 300, people.
That's right.
That's the biggie.
Do you know that we have been doing this show since 2007?
Yeah, you keep saying that.
The number seems to be baffling to you.
Yeah, it is baffling to me.
Because time flies.
When you're having fun, apparently.
A couple of quick PR mentions...
Got a registration for couriercrossamerica.com, which is nice, considering our upcoming trip, the second week of July.
Still trying to figure out how to get the wheels for it.
I've got some nice offers on the email, and really nice offers.
The one that came closest, but I really just can't take him up on it.
One of our listeners has a 35-foot RV, and he's got a video of it.
The thing is beautiful.
He's an ex-cop, ex-marine.
He's retired now.
And I'm like, wow!
And he says, the only caveat is, I have to come along, I have to drive, I'll be great, I'll do production work, etc.
And I really, really, it's a lovely offer, but I don't think that, you know, I don't get a picture, really, of me, Mickey, and the Marine.
I do.
This guy is amazing.
He left the Marines and then he became a cop when he was 49 and he had to retire because at a traffic stop he was hit 8 times by AK-47 fire.
These are the kind of guys that listen to our show and I love those guys.
And he survived.
Good.
Yeah.
But, I mean, we really need to just kind of, it just has to be kind of the two of us, otherwise I think it'll be a very different type of vibe.
It'll be a group.
It's a group dynamics change.
Yeah, it does.
But it's very lovely and I really appreciate the offer.
And we're just looking for, you know, we'll insure the thing.
35 foot's a big one, if I'm not mistaken.
Yeah, it was amazing.
Really beautiful.
It doesn't even have to be that big.
No, that's pretty big.
Anyway, so we're still looking for someone to hook us up with an RV. You want the Marine now all of a sudden?
Oh, you want the...
That way she figures that you'll end up on the side of the road.
Oh, she's 30 seconds behind.
Yeah, exactly.
I'll be like, hey, wait a minute.
Where's Mickey and the Marine?
Where'd they go?
I'll be like, John?
John, I'm on the cell phone for the show today.
Yeah.
Nice forward to noagendershow.com.
Baronessashton.com.
That's up there with seanhannity.com as far as I'm concerned.
Oh, that's a good one, yeah.
Baronessashton.com.
So if you're looking for the elitist Baroness, you're coming to us.
This one I couldn't believe was available, particularly seeing the state of the industry.
Bestpodcastintheworld.com.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
That's pretty awesome, right?
Yeah.
Oh, we have to put that one on our wiki page.
And bestpodcastintheworld.com slash donate forwards to Dvorak.org slash NA. So this is kind of the new thing.
Everyone's doing their custom domain name slash donate and it goes to the, uh, goes to, uh, Dvorak.org slash NA. Our friends south of the border don't want to be left out in celebration of the lack of good education in both Mexico and the USA. I got two misspelled domains.
This is funny, Victor.
D-douche without an E dot me and D-douche without an E dot us.
Two of my friends introduced me to the show a month back and now I'm a fan.
I would like to get them D-douched.
I might as well do this while I'm at it.
Their names are Julio Romero and Jenny Mendez.
You've been D-douched.
We listened from Tijuana, Mexico while we're waiting in line at the border to come to work at San Diego.
I guess you could get a whole show in.
Or two, maybe.
They're the guys that want a third show a week.
Yeah, I can imagine why.
Politicalsockpuppets.com, also forwarding to noagendashow.com.
By the way, I want to say ddouche.me is genius.
Yeah, especially if it's the misspelled version for our Mexican friends.
And then I just want to reiterate that the Pocket No Agenda app has been upgraded.
It now has Game Center support and all kinds of stuff, so you can, like, interact with other people while you're listening.
The soundboard has been expanded, and now it has one for the DSC. I'm not quite sure how to work it yet, but now we have individual show alerts, bat signals for the stream, noagendastream.com.
Did another daily source code yesterday.
As part of our full service package to human resources.
And there's also the No Agenda radio app, which I'd also like you to take a look at, show in the PR section of the show notes, which also has some interesting features.
So that's some PR mentions, and of course we thank our...
Executive producers and 300 Club members, Joseph Lieper, Edward Beardhausen, Jesse Cruz, and our other two executive producers, Hans-Jörg Schultz and Armin Breuer, for supporting the show.
These are real credits, people, just like Hollywood, but unlike those phonies here, we'll actually vouch for you if anyone questions your credit for the show.
And what else?
Propagate the formula!
Our formula is this.
We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
World's.
Order!
Save my pride with me, everybody, now!
Shut up!
Sleep!
Squirt!
It'll get old.
Oh, yeah.
It'll get old.
But it's a beauty.
For now, it's great.
It's a big, giant, steel, it's like tin-plated or something, I don't know.
Hey, I think the Congo may be off the map, by the way, for the pipeline.
Why?
We know we got Ashley Judd in there to be the celebrity ambassador.
Well, then it sounds like it's online to me.
No, no, no.
Did she quit?
No, it looks like Uganda is going to play a part anyway.
Uganda invites bid for oil pipeline.
And they've also blocked Facebook, Twitter, etc.
It could also be that they're just trying it.
Like, hey man, everyone's in on this groovy deal.
Like, we've got to be a part...
Hey, turn off Facebook!
I want some of that!
And they've got no freedom fighters.
That's what I'm waiting for.
But the Uganda government is firing on protesters, so they understand how to get the attention.
Everybody is.
Who isn't?
Yeah.
Hey, we want some no-fly zone over here.
Fire on some people.
Just fire on them.
It's literally unbelievable what's happening in the world.
I love it.
I love it because what we do here for you on this show is at least you understand it and then you don't feel so bad.
I have a couple of clips curiously about the Uganda debate.
Oh, it's not curious and it's not coincidence.
Well, I would play the buonacom.
That's one of the secret taping of the negotiations with Uganda.
Now, who's negotiating with who about what?
Well, you'll hear when you hear it.
Buonacom.
Bamba!
Keep your nerve, everybody.
Tell them on the sea, chief.
Yumbo.
This is Tarzan.
Stay where you are and don't let them see that you're nervous.
Okay.
I'm trying to be a sinner.
Wanna come.
Wanna come.
That's Tarzan, douche-mally.
Now, we have the breakdowns of the debates.
One or two.
This is really, really, really the worst thing you've ever done on this show.
Tell the chief I've got the great white ape.
Wanna go, Jenga.
I'm going to go, I'm going to take it.
Chief said, Wanna no got white ape.
And that's the pipeline negotiation.
One-on-one juju.
That was really, really, really bad, John.
So I was watching this thing.
This was from the movie Tarzan Escapes.
And I realized that, you know, I was thinking Bill Cosby is going out of his way to find all the original copies and destroy anything to do with Amos and Andy.
Why?
Oh, because it's racist.
The brutes of American racism are in these Tarzan movies.
Is that what Bill Cosby is actually spending his time doing?
Yeah, it's one of his main projects.
Yeah, digging up all the old radio shows.
I mean, it's...
We have to destroy...
I mean, is he insane, this man?
Is he insane?
I mean, if you want to actually have something to point to, then you want to show this as like, this is how bad it was.
Is this man insane?
I'm answering my own question.
It's one of the things he's doing.
Jeez, Louise.
That's unbelievable.
The guy's insane.
I got some other really fascinating clips.
I have Joy Behar making a thing.
Dude, you cannot go from two Tarzans to a Joy Behar.
That's just not okay.
She says she likes Obama, huh?
I'm stunned by this, by the way.
Really?
Stunned, I tell you.
That she likes Obama?
Yeah, she likes Obama.
Obama did it.
The left was yelling at him, the right's yelling at him.
Meanwhile, he got plenty of things done.
He's a very good president.
Don't you like him?
I think he could be a better president.
I don't dislike him, and I don't think she'd run down the president like in a time of war, and we're always in a war.
Ugh.
Roseanne.
Oh, I'm glad you picked up on that.
Ugh, Roseanne.
All right, so...
Can you imagine Joy Behar and Roseanne Barr in the same...
I mean, this is like...
Scissoring?
I'm surprised the thing didn't blow up.
Hmm.
Critical mass of...
So I was watching C-SPAN. It's what we do, so you don't have to.
Hey, I was watching C-SPAN, too.
Well, I was watching C-SPAN, and this very interesting program was announced.
And this is, you know, what do you think our Treasury is doing right now during this economic, financial Armageddon of a crisis with, of course, the reality show known as Will They Raise the Debt Ceiling?
Looming.
What do you think our Treasury is doing right now, John?
Raising the debt ceiling.
Sure.
But first, this week on American Artifacts, C-SPAN visits the Treasury Building to learn about a $240 million restoration project and to visit several historic rooms, including the Gilded West Dome, the Cash Room, the Office of the Secretary of the Treasury.
The Gilded Dome, John!
The Cash Room!
The Cash Room!
The Gilded Dome!
We got $240 million to blow on this show piece.
It's a quarter of a billion dollars, people.
A quarter of a billion dollars for the cash, for the cash room.
Look at the cash room.
We got the cash room.
We just need cash.
I know a lot of people want to send blankets and water.
Just send your cash.
So I think, I think that Goldman Sachs is going down, Johnny Boy.
Oh, bullcrap.
Yes, I do.
And I have a theory about this.
I'm all ears on this one.
Okay, so, obviously, we have had just too many awakened human resources going, hey, wait a minute.
Something's wrong here.
Something's fishy.
Now, how come no one went to jail?
Do you see this all?
I know, it's a meme of the day.
It's a meme, right.
So the reason I pick up on it is like, okay, hold on a second.
It started at the Academy Awards, by the way.
It did.
It started with the guy who made Inside Job.
And he yelled that out, and everyone was like, what is he talking about?
But then people went home, and went like, ah.
And then, of course, the Ministry of Truth cranked up, and they started saying, hey, well, hmm, okay.
So now it's everywhere.
Everywhere you look, they're talking about, oh, no one went to jail, the only guy was Bertie Madoff, and oh, blah, blah, blah.
So now this report came out.
This report is the Levin report.
And the Levin report, in that it basically says, everyone lied, screwed, cheated, messed around, and no one's going to jail.
So now we have this propagating throughout the media.
And just a couple of side notes.
Just a couple of headlines.
Goldman Sachs chief blank fine could face criminal prosecution for role in financial crisis.
Clooney producing Wall Street bailout pick.
Hello?
Does that tell you anything?
So there's a hit job coming.
Tell the Department of Justice, investigate Goldman Sachs.
Goldman, furious at being left out of Glencore IPO. This is where I went, oh, okay.
Then we have on...
That's the real punishment.
Well, that's part of it, but someone has to go to jail, and I think it's going to be blank fine.
And proof is in the pudding as...
So this isn't the same as Goldman going down.
It's because they're going to isolate one or two guys and throw them in jail.
Of course.
Of course.
Into some ritzy jail, I might add.
Of course.
But this is the meme is Goldman has to go down.
By the way, I think it's probably Citibank who's going, yeah, yeah, yeah.
How can we help?
How can we help?
Because, you know, those guys are all competitors.
Then we have Elliot Spitzer, who was in the movie, in the Inside Job movie, show up on the Anderson Vanderbilt Cooper show.
So now you know something's supposed to be communicated, because Anderson Vanderbilt Cooper is talking about it, along with Matt Taibbi, the Rolling Stone reporter, who, as we know, is on the inside.
We'll remember the whole McChrystal story.
Yeah, no, he has to be.
He's on the inside.
He gets to do good work, and for some reason, he must have blown somebody somewhere, and sometimes you've got to have a guy who just is really clean as a whistle.
And he's a great reporter, and he does not get thrown in the hot tub with the cover on, so...
Right, and he's entertaining.
He's very entertaining.
They show up together to talk about this, and again, another eight-minute interview, but at the end, finally, paydirt.
One of the articles you wrote, Matt, and I don't want to quote it word for word because it was quite...
Oh, because I might have to say the F word, and I'm Anderson Vanderbilt Cooper, and I don't F. Well, descriptive, but it was somebody saying that basically if one of these guys was sent to prison, That would stop these shenanigans from happening again.
That's really all it would take.
If somebody was held accountable, it would have a cooling effect.
Yeah, absolutely.
I talked to one guy who was a former SEC investigator, and he said, basically, if you start sending Lloyd Blankfein or one of those guys...
Blanky baby!
You better have a heart attack.
As in a real maximum security prison for six months, this whole thing would be over very quickly.
The whole situation would be cleared up.
But the problem is there's no incentive for these guys to change their behaviors because they never, ever get punished.
Not only do they not get punished, they get a bailout.
And has there been any change in regulation?
I mean, is the regulation better now?
Is the oversight better?
Look, Dodd-Frank made some improvements, and it was better to have it than not have it.
But it doesn't change the simple fact that all you need is common law fraud on the books or there as a theory.
Shut up and get me some hookers, Elliot.
I don't care about what you're saying.
So there it is.
I think Blankfein goes to jail.
It's viewed as Goldman going down.
Goldman gets bought.
Goldman will get bought by someone.
No.
Yeah, I think it will.
And then it'll just go on its merry way.
Nothing's going to change.
But there's an acute awareness amongst the elite that they have to scapegoat somebody.
They thought Bernie would be good enough, but he's too wacky now.
Right?
And he stole from the rich.
So that was his mistake.
We need someone to go down, go down hard, and they're making this...
I think Blank Fine is the guy.
And why wouldn't they just...
Goldman Sachs is tainted.
I think they would assimilate it into something else.
There's too many guys out there.
Why not?
Why not?
It's because they're the ones who do that.
They're the top dog.
They're the ones who call the shots on this.
They're the ones who are going to give up blank fine.
They're going to give him up?
Okay.
Well, that makes sense.
But blank fine, if someone's going to jail, it's going to be one guy.
And it's going to be played up really big.
And Anderson Cooper will be...
They named the name.
I mean, when Taibbi said the guy's name, it's...
Blank fine.
So Blankfein's got a target on his back, obviously.
He obviously did not play ball in some sense.
I mean, this is all recent.
I mean, they could have targeted a half a dozen guys, but this guy's name keeps cropping up, so he's got a target on his back.
He is the target.
It's when he said, we're doing God's work.
That's when the target got painted.
He's the guy that said that.
So he's the guy that's got to go.
And then Anderson Cooper will get all the credit for keeping him honest.
I'm keeping him honest here, everybody.
Keeping him honest.
That's me.
That's me, Anderson Vanderbilt Cooper.
Keeping him honest.
Hey.
Keeping him honest, Anderson Vanderbilt Cooper.
Keeping him honest.
All right.
Yay.
I got lots more like that, but I want to give some room.
Nah, you might as well take the show over.
No, no, no, no.
Okay, well I got some more stuff.
I told you at the beginning of the show I got nothing.
More Behar.
No, I only had the one.
That's the best Behar I could come up with.
I got a good one from Ron Paul.
He was a little long-winded.
He's out on the stump running for president.
And of course, you listen to his speeches.
He was up in New Hampshire.
You listen to his speeches.
The guy makes nothing but sense.
I know, isn't that horrible?
It's horrible.
And they're all sitting there, all these people, a lot of college young people, old people, everybody's got a great range of supporters.
They're all loving him.
This guy can't win anything because he's just obviously, the media, the whole system is against him.
But he has one interesting little, he was doing a question and answer thing after one of his little talks.
And I thought to blame the Fed when he's got this idea.
We're still away from a total real collapse.
And he says, we've got to get it.
He says, the only way the Fed's ever going to be beaten, and you can play this in a second.
The only way the Fed's ever going to be beaten, he says, for one thing, it's not going to be beaten, but when things start to fall apart, it's up to the public to intellectually blame them for everything until they finally are just shamed into dissolving, essentially.
It's kind of a long shot, but it's interesting to listen to this little clip.
Thank you, Representative Paul.
I have a question about the money going to Libya via the Federal Reserve.
I was very disturbed when I read that on your Texas Straight Talk last week.
Why will no one at the Federal Reserve be held accountable for that?
Because the Federal Reserve is a government unto itself.
They're very, very powerful.
But they're also on the defensive, more so than they've ever been before.
They've been able to do everything in secret, but fortunately for the two lawsuits by Bloomberg and Fox, they did force some of the information out.
And because we had a modification of my bill last year, we're getting some more information in July.
It does fall on me with some of the responsibility in the committee to bring this to light.
And we will do our very best.
But unfortunately, it's going to be very, very difficult.
They are very powerful.
And if you think about it...
They have more economic, political clout than the whole Congress.
They spent $3.3 trillion on those bailouts, you know, and the Congress spent $850 billion, you know.
And it's all done in secret.
Yes, they should be held accountable.
And some of the stories coming out here on who's gotten these loans, they should be and hopefully they can be.
But the odds of them really being held accountable, I wish I could be more optimistic.
But the best way to hold them accountable is as this system falls apart that we intellectually blame them.
They've had a free ride.
They've always said that if the economy is doing well, the Fed has managed the money supply right and the interest rates are exactly what they should be.
And that's why we have a growing economy.
But then the economy would turn down because of the Federal Reserve.
Then the Fed would come in and say, well, what we need to do is print more money and rescue people who are in trouble.
And they generally got credit for getting us back out of the slump.
But that's not going to happen anymore.
They have to be blamed because they are responsible intellectually.
The legal responsibility is another matter.
I think we should pursue that, but I'm not very optimistic that much will happen.
Yeah, I mean, nor am I. Yeah, well, he's at the head of the committee that oversees them now, and he knows that he can't do anything.
I mean, he was like, you know, big talk, big talk, and then, oops, whoa, this is interesting.
When he made the comment that they're bigger than the Congress.
Yeah, more powerful, more powerful.
Yeah, more powerful.
Then he knows that he's up against, you know, you can't fight City Hall.
I mean, it's impossible, but he's still beating, punching at them.
Well, I read his book, End the Fed, which is a real quick read.
It's real nice.
That's something for the No Agenda Book Club, if you've never read that.
I know we've talked about it before.
I've sent it to several people, and they go like, ah, that's that kook from Texas.
I'm like, no, thanks.
People should be listening to this guy, as opposed to calling him a kook.
Yes.
And so what he's referring to is the 46 emergency loans that the Federal Reserve made to the Arab Banking Corp.
during this time of enormous crises.
Yeah, not to mention the $200 million we talked about last week in the Matt Taibbi story.
The $200 million going to the Morgan Stanley women.
Yeah, but see, now that's a distraction.
It's like, that's a distraction.
And now, the Libyan freedom fighters are now looking for a $2 billion loan from the Fed.
$2 billion.
Yeah, because they have a central bank there.
For what?
Well, I guess the money comes back to us.
For freedom.
Yeah.
Yeah, of course it comes back to us.
It's for freedom, my friend.
How dare you question freedom?
You are so un-American, you.
I can't believe that.
Now, by the way, regarding Libya, I just wanted to play one thing.
From March 21st, 2011, that is now almost four weeks ago, almost one month, a word not used in this statement.
It is U.S. policy that Gaddafi needs to go.
But let me emphasize that we...
We anticipate this transition to take place in a matter of days and not a matter of weeks.
Right.
Thank you.
And so I would expect that over the next several days we'll have more information.
Yeah, more.
And the Pentagon will be fully briefing the American people.
And the slaves.
So what's the date on that again?
March 21st, 2011.
So he said days, not weeks, but he certainly didn't mention months.
Well, it hasn't been a whole month yet.
Almost a month.
Okay, by this time next week, it will be over a month.
And so we can revisit this in a few more weeks, and then we can try to determine what his definition of days, not weeks, is.
This has already been almost four weeks.
Excuse me, Mr.
President, how many days old am I? Jerk.
So, meanwhile, ooh, something very embarrassing for the United Nations cropped up.
Little document.
Now I understand.
Remember in...
We read the two resolutions, 1970 and 1973.
In the 1970 resolution, it says, you know, we should have the International Human Rights Council do an investigation.
And when they report back, then we'll decide, you know, how bad the slaughter of the civilians is.
And the human rights guy said, okay, yeah, that's a good idea.
You know, we'll have it done in a couple of weeks, which in Obama speak means years.
We'll have it done in a couple of weeks.
And so they didn't wait for that report.
Because that was like, how long did they wait, John?
Eight days?
Hey, no report.
Okay, let's go in and bomb them.
In January of this year of our Lord, 2011, the council was just about to vote on a report that affirmed and praised Libya and Colonel Gaddafi for his human rights record.
The report states the Gaddafi government protected not only political rights, but also economic, educational, social, and cultural rights, and praised it for the nation's treatment of religious minorities and human rights training received by the security forces.
It must be a mistake.
A 2011 report linked in the show notes, noagendershow.com, right from the UN website.
How inconvenient.
Well, somebody screwed up.
They should have disappeared that report.
That's unbelievable.
lies.
All right.
A little interlude, John?
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Can I do that?
You might as well.
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And DeJazzle's three-step system always makes me feel that way.
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It's perfect for women and also for men.
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Help!
Where did you get this?
This is a commercial for Tajazzle.
We're getting into the payoff here.
...delicious.
So what's step 3?
What's step 3?
Be patient.
Tajazzle is just so much fun.
To jazzle is a three-step personal confidence system.
And step three is where you put some bling in your fling.
There you go.
So it's a vajazzling kit with fragrance and sweetness tasting.
And this is being sold on television.
Hey, I got this rhinestone stuck in my tooth.
I feel dirty after watching that.
This is the problem.
And so when I talk about...
You know, the Federal Reserve with you.
And I see this on television.
I'm like, there's no hope.
There's no hope whatsoever.
We've already discussed this.
There never was any.
There's just no hope.
The only reason that people listen to this show is because they're also in the same boat saying, boy.
Oh, boy.
Yeah, what are we going to do?
Well, at least you know.
I mean, it's kind of amusing.
As long as you're not in a room full of clones who don't seem to get it, that it's all a bunch of bull crap, but, you know, whatever.
So there was another presidential action that puzzled me.
And for some reason I never see this reported.
Although it's like, you know, the White House has RSS feeds.
It shows up.
It shows up twice in my aggregator because I subscribe to the presidential actions page and then also the White House press office.
If you were reporting on the White House, if that was your beat, John, wouldn't you like look at what they release?
I would be probably glued to that.
Yeah.
So they released a memorandum about Section 315 of Title 32 of the United States Code.
And you know I love it when I read something like that.
I'm like, oh.
This is your favorite stuff.
This is my favorite stuff.
I'll give you 10 for that.
Google, Google, Google.
What is this?
So this was something that dictator Bush put into place by presidential order.
Allowing, this is really quite crazy, Army and Air Force personnel to be deployed anywhere as National Guardsmen.
Oh, that's interesting.
I like that.
No, I don't like it that much because...
I mean, I like the fact that you discovered it because what it says is that because we have all these, you know, things you can't do in this country with our military.
Like posse commentatus.
But you can do certain things with the National Guard you can't do with the military.
So you just say, hey, it's just a matter of definition.
You, you, you Marine guy, you're now National Guard.
That's right.
And it's without disregard for his rank or for his pay scale.
Now, this was already permissible.
I didn't know this, but I think before George W. Obama came out with this memorandum, dictator Bush...
Bush came out with this idea, but now, George W. Obama has changed this Section 315, Title 32, so that it no longer is by presidential order, but at the discretion of the Secretary of Defense.
This is concerning.
Oh, this is obvious.
This is typical Obama.
This way he doesn't have to take the heat.
Well, obviously.
So he doesn't have to say, yep, it's okay, go ahead.
I called our troops down to the streets because there were freedom, I mean, rebels.
I mean, anarchists.
So he doesn't want to have to say that.
So just like, hey, Bob, Bill, Gates, whatever your name is.
By the way, it's going to be a new guy any day now.
So who's the new guy that's going to have this awesome power?
I think they should move Napolitano to that job.
Yeah, that would be a new guy for sure.
Sorry, I couldn't resist.
Yeah, you're terrible.
But that disturbed me somewhat.
Yeah, it's disturbing.
Of course, is anybody bitching and moaning about this?
Does anybody even know about it?
Does anybody complain about it but the two of us?
Let me check.
No.
No.
You'd think somebody from the mainstream media, or even the less than mainstream media, you'd think Tom Hartman even.
Tom, yeah.
He should be all over it.
Yeah, he should.
But he's too bug-eyed.
Trying to read what they tell him to read.
Now his overlords at Russia Today are telling him what to do.
His overlords.
I don't know.
He's probably freaking out saying, where's all the hot chicks at this news channel?
I got the wrong news channel.
I thought I'd go to a news channel for the girls.
I'm at the wrong news channel.
This is bad.
There's nothing here.
Just a bunch of babushkas.
I would even work at like a CNN or a Fox just for no money.
Just let me hang out with the chicks.
Oops.
I hope she did.
Here she comes around.
She banged right at the back of the head.
So, actually, CNBC's got some interesting women, too.
So, okay, let's get back to the show.
All right, so I think this was the most emailed story and clip of the week, John.
I don't see it on your list.
You probably were sure I was going to get a hold of it.
The shut-up slave moment of the week, courtesy of CNN. Hello!
If you get upset at airport security, you might want to watch how you show it.
Because behavior detection officers deployed at the nation's airports to ferret out security.
Which is BDO, by the way.
I want to be one of those guys.
I think I'm going to quit this job and become a behavior detective officer.
Well, you could get promoted immediately by...
You got a big one.
You can catch me.
Hey, that's Curry.
I know him when I see him.
I've been watching him for four years.
Four years I've been watching that guy.
On the lookout for among others.
John, if you want to search my cavity, all you have to do is ask, honey.
It's not a problem.
Anyone who displays arrogance and verbally expresses contempt for the screening process, according to information obtained by CNN. Civil Liberties...
Obtained by CNN. It's like...
Hi, this is Lucy.
I need a piece on our BDOs because, you know, I don't want to give them a raise.
I need some profile.
Sure.
What do you want us to say?
Uh, just say they're watching everybody.
Okay!
Groups say it is absurd that the exercise of free speech should be considered suspicious.
If you complain about the government, that's justification for the government doing more intensive scrutiny of your behavior.
I mean, it seems, you know, just so anti-American.
Terrorism experts also question whether it's useful.
They say terrorists usually try to blend in, keep a low profile, because they don't want to draw attention to their activities.
Challenging airport security would have precisely the opposite effect.
This idea that a terrorist would be very arrogant and express contempt for airport procedures, that doesn't make any sense to me, from a common sense point of view, and also from the record of what is known about behaviors of al-Qaeda terrorists.
But the immigration agent who stopped the so-called 20th 9-11 hijacker from entering the U.S. did use arrogant to describe Mohammed al-Qahtani.
Upon establishing eye contact, he exceeded body language that appeared arrogant.
How did they let this guy into the country is my question.
He appeared arrogant.
You only had to appear arrogant?
Yeah, that's right.
That's all it takes.
Go ahead.
I always go through these things with kind of a blank dumb look.
You look like a zombie.
Yeah, you go through looking like a zombie.
When somebody tells you to do something stupid, you give them a zombie look.
And then you do it.
Yeah, don't be too friendly.
At the very end, by the way, I always do this.
At the very end, you get all this stuff, because you've got all these bins.
And so you got a bunch of bins coming through, so you just take your sweet time about putting your jacket on, finding your shoes, putting your, you know, do everything so you know that otherwise you'll lose something.
Yeah.
And just, you know, so what?
Oh, you mean at the end after it's all gone through?
Yeah.
Oh yeah, I do that too.
Because then I'm through and I figure, okay.
You know the thing that I hate the most, what really, really, really annoys me?
If you put your laptop, now I have a power book.
And it must have something to do with the power book and the plastic bins.
I always get static electric shock when I pick up my laptop.
Oh really?
I've never gotten that ever.
Well you don't have a Mac.
You got like plastic stuff.
Ugh.
Magnesium.
I have a magnesium device.
Does anyone else ever have this?
Because it really...
It's always...
And it's like not a small one.
It's like...
Like one of those really...
Like the spark...
You're going to ruin that laptop when you can't get static going through those things.
Yeah, it's getting...
I don't know.
I think it's the bin.
The bin has something to do with it.
The plastic bin.
Maybe it's your airport.
Yeah.
Does this happen everywhere?
I've never had that happen.
It happens so often that I've now, you know how, if it's one of those static days where you're very conscious of it and you want to go open the door and you go like, hit it really hard or really fast because you don't want to get that start.
It's startled more than shock.
I now do that every single time with my laptop because I know that I have a 90% chance I'm going to get a static charge from it.
Huh.
I'm just saying.
Anyway, this of course is not about, this is not anything other than promotion for the new show!
If you see something, say something!
If you see something, say something!
It's brought to you by Lucy Napalopano and the Department of Homeland Security.
Enjoy the show!
If you see something, say something!
Eh, maybe.
It could be.
It's going to be great.
It's going to be a great show.
So I've been digging here on the machine trying to find a reference to...
This guy wrote this book.
I was watching C-SPAN, and book TV on the weekend, of course, is quite entertaining because all these book authors who seem to do more work than reporters do, and so you get a lot of good information.
But I didn't realize this one.
I don't have the author's name or his book, sorry.
But he's a progressive.
Just to show you, I have some balance here with my clips.
We take from the right wing, the left wing, the middle, and the libertarians.
As long as they're a douchebag, we'll clip them.
But this guy has an interesting question.
This was just an interesting question somebody asked him about T-bill ownership, and I didn't realize these numbers, these percentages.
Now, what is a T-bill, John?
You have to explain the T-bill.
The Treasury bill.
This is what finances our government.
So this is what China owns.
These are things that China owns.
The Japanese buy.
We buy.
You have one somewhere.
Yeah, I'm buying T-bills.
And here, just play the who owns the T-bills, because I don't think the public generally knows this.
This guy's got a book on, I don't have the title, maybe the chat room can dig it up.
It's about, it's like the 13 economic facts you don't know, or some title like that, although I couldn't find it on Amazon.
So it's obviously titled something else, but it stands alone nicely.
What about the right-wing chicken little narrative involving who...
Is that a racial slur?
Yeah, this is when you get a group of progressives in a room, they're the mean.
I mean, you don't see this from the right winger so much, but you sure see it from the progressive, the progressive branch of the Democrat Party, the ultra-liberals.
They are mean-spirited.
They think all the Tea Party people are just racist pigs.
We have people, as you can see from our producers, from all over Gitmo Nation.
Explain Chicken Little reference.
Oh, that's a good point.
Chicken Little is a child's nursery rhyme or a story, a fable, about a little chicken that keeps running around saying that the sky is falling because a drop of a hailstone hit him or something.
And he's just worried sick about everything and he becomes a fretting lunatic in a short form.
And that's called a Chicken Little.
What about the right-wing chicken-little narrative involving who owns our T-bills?
And China, of course, being a big investor in this kind of abstraction called Treasury bills.
And this nervousness that has been enunciated that if we do something that upsets this country or that country...
We will completely go to hell in a handbasket because suddenly...
How many more of these does she pull out?
Chicken Little, hell in a handbasket.
Has she done by and large yet?
This woman is horrible.
I think this woman is scripted.
I think this whole question and answer thing...
I cut a bunch of this out, by the way.
Really?
Oh my God.
Because the guy actually says, oh, I love this audience because they're asking the exact same questions I like to answer, which is Duh!
Winning.
So anyway, so she wraps it up here and he starts to answer.
It's kind of interesting to me, the numbers he pulls out.
This will be called in.
I don't know why it is that this idea that China owns so much of our debt has become so prevalent, but the reality is they're holding 9.6% of our public debt.
9.6%.
Yeah, I actually knew this, Jar.
It's just a whole bad guy thing.
American households and institutions own 42%, more than four times the amount.
It's an odd kind of thing.
I think part of it is...
Screw the China man.
I don't know why this is so prevalent.
I'm not sure that it's an ideological thing.
It seems to be that everybody I meet, whatever their political persuasion, also seems to think China holds this huge sword over our head and we need to let...
I don't know.
Walmart, go there and do what...
We can't make China angry because, oh no!
But more than four times the amount is held.
I like him!
I like him too, but I like the oh no thing.
Oh no, I like him.
He's like, you know, with a little work, he could do the show.
You know, he needs to get on a little more.
I think he's also bi-curious, like me.
That's kind of good.
By U.S. individuals and institutions, a very big chunk of it is held in the Social Security Trust Fund.
Now, this is one of the more pernicious lies that I think in my book...
The Social Security Trust Fund is a huge pile of treasury bills.
According to the law of the United States of America, the Social Security Administration's finances cannot be used to either influence the surplus or deficit of the U.S. federal government's budget.
Wait a minute.
Let me just hear that again.
What did he say exactly?
According to the law, He says that the Social Security Administration has these T-bills, about $4 trillion worth, and it's accumulating interest.
I mean, some of the interest payments are going to that, which is one of the reasons I think.
There's something fishy going on.
If anything, if what he says is accurate, and I believe it to be, but...
He says that most of this information we're getting is bogus.
That, oh, you know, there's no money.
They're broke.
You know, it's all been folded into the budget, and that's just the way it is.
And it's all bull crap, according to him, as he plays this out.
But it's actually interesting when he actually does the math on it.
And it looks like Social Security is going to be around forever, which I've heard from other people.
And so it's like, you know, I don't know why we're hearing kind of a fake scenario about Social Security.
I think a lot of it was they figured, well, look, they have...
They have $4 trillion.
If we can just change the law, privatize Social Security, that'll throw $4 trillion into our bank account because we get to take that money now.
We get to steal the money from Social Security, which we'll tell everyone is broke.
And that'll balance the budget.
We can spend more money on hookers and blow.
And meanwhile, the publicans screw themselves because they don't know how to manage money anyway, but let them.
John, my head just exploded from what you said.
Wow!
Alright, let's just listen to this.
I'm flabbergasted.
Finances cannot be used to either influence the surplus or deficit of the US federal government's budget.
By law, they are distinct.
By law.
So you have this huge pile of cash.
2.6 trillion.
It's earning so much interest that even after we start drawing it down, you hear so much about this date, oh, we're going to start drawing it down.
Even after we draw it down, start drawing it down, the interest payments are such that it will continue to increase in size until it hits 4.2 trillion dollars with a T. And I hear people who are So brazen as to assault this incredibly secure and popular retirement program by saying these are worthless IOUs.
Which is just stunning, because I want you to just think about this.
Those worthless IOUs are $2.6 trillion in T-bills out of $14 trillion in total.
So that means that if they're worthless, so are the 9.6% held by China, and so are the 42% held in your 401ks, in pension funds, etc., etc.
They're not worthless IOUs.
What they are is they're the safest investment on planet Earth.
That's what they are.
Okay.
All right.
Let me get this straight.
So, first of all, his last name has got to be Geithner or something like that.
It's obvious the guy is a shill for the Fed.
And he's...
Wow.
This is unbelievable.
It's the most secure investment on Earth.
No.
My gold.
How little of it I have left is the securest investment on Earth.
This guy is...
He's a douchebag.
Hold on.
Douchebag.
No.
Well, I understand what his point is.
You can't say it's worthless IOUs without saying the debt to China is a worthless IOU. Or the T-bills that the American public holds.
Yeah, you'd have to say everything's a worthless IOU. Well, guess what?
It's all a worthless IOU. That's what I'm going to say.
It's all worthless.
It's a bunch of paper.
It's a bunch of hooeyes circling around like a turd in a toilet.
It's all worthless.
That's what I'll say.
Sure.
That guy's just not saying it.
He's saying, oh, it's the most secure on earth.
Please.
Well, for paper it is.
No.
Yeah, it's only a little thicker than the paper I wipe my behind with.
Yeah, well, give me a billion dollars worth of this worthless stuff then.
Really?
You're older than I am and you still care that much about money?
Ha!
I don't.
I really don't.
Yeah, okay.
I took a vow to poverty when we started this show.
And so far, so good.
Yeah, and then when we don't get to donate, when our producers don't help us out, then you're depressed for a week.
So why is that?
I wasn't depressed because of that.
So, let's go back to this guy.
The fact of the matter is, we're being led down a primrose path of bullcrap when it comes to the Social Security situation.
Right.
Well, yeah.
Absolutely.
So, what can I say?
Nothing.
I just thought that people could use the information.
I don't know what to say.
That was good because it was like, what?
Really?
Unbelievable.
Unbelievable.
We haven't done this in a while, John.
We've got some important things going on.
And now, back to real things.
Just when you thought that Lucy Napolitano with her brand new reality jokes that that was everything.
Oh no, oh no.
Condoleezza Rice will make her acting debut on 30 Rock.
Huh.
And, even better, she will be Alec Baldwin's love interest.
Those guys at NBC. How's she going to do Alec Baldwin when Alec Baldwin's obviously having this baby with this other blonde hottie?
Well, I don't know if she's playing herself or if she's acting.
She'll be playing herself.
She must be playing herself.
And he's going to get all hot and bothered for her.
These guys will stop at nothing.
NBC. That's what you do.
That's how you promote a show.
The irony, of course, is that Bolin's a left-wing lunatic, and she's like, you know, from the right.
Tina Fey, the show's star and creator, made the announcement yesterday on NPR's Leonard Lopate show.
Yeah, the hotbed of promotional activity, that there.
Really, I never even heard of this show.
Good job, Tina.
And Paris Hilton, going to star in her own new reality series, where she's going to show a different side of Paris.
The real Paris Hilton now, apparently, we're going to see.
I loves me some jokes.
And that's real news that I have.
I do have some vaccine news.
It's been getting really crazy.
I just want to reiterate for people who are new to the show that vaccines are the healthcare bonanza.
Everything's running out of patent.
Every medicine, even Viagra.
Well, especially Viagra.
Lipitor, all the stuff that has been protected for years.
And after our donation segment, I want to come back to the protectionism of patents and copyrights, because there's something going on with that as well.
But vaccines are great, because they don't have to go through rigorous testing like everything else.
This is the bonanza.
All the companies have predicted this to be their future income.
You're actually giving it to people who aren't sick, which is even better, so someone doesn't need just a shot of whatever it is.
And the companies can't get sued.
This is the greatest thing about it.
Deals were made between governments who, by the way, purchase many of these vaccines that sit idly until they go to waste and pass their due date.
Then they usually dump them on some African country so they don't completely lose their ass.
There's always an extra penny at the end here.
So now the United States has jumped into a plan, a global vaccine sharing deal.
And this is kind of like a timeshare.
So now they're so brazen, virus samples will be shared globally in exchange for vaccines produced from them under a landmark deal to improve preparedness for a flu pandemic, according to diplomats at the World Health Organization.
So if I understand, and they have a framework agreement now, The industry has pledged to, quote, donate drugs and know-how, covering half of the $58 million annual cost of boosting defenses in the poorest nations.
So essentially, we will continue to give you guys the really big contracts if you give some of that surplus crap to poor people.
And now it's official.
It's an official deal.
Well, that's fascinating.
You need to know this stuff.
GlaxoSmithKline, one of the makers of Pandemrix, this is the vaccine that has been linked to kids contracting narcolepsy.
In Finland, Finland really broke the story.
Now it's turning up everywhere.
Of course, you're not reading that in mainstream press because, well, look at the commercials.
It's the drug companies who are sponsoring all of your media, so that's why it's not really showing up.
And so this is obviously a big problem.
My gosh, it seems like the swine flu vaccine pandemic has been causing at least lots of kids Not everybody, but lots of kids.
247 cases in 47 countries.
Narcolepsy.
So what has the government agreed with GlaxoSmithKline?
Probably not to sue GlaxoSmithKline for anything.
No, they already can't do that.
They can't be sued.
They agreed to give more drugs.
We want everybody falling asleep.
No, they've recommended changes to the product label.
May cause narcolepsy is what they're going to put on the label.
Okay.
Well, you know, I don't know about you, but I don't know anybody.
When's the last time you had a vaccine where somebody handed you the bottle and said, would you like to read the label?
Right.
No, of course not.
When's the last time you ever read a label of a vaccine bottle?
No, I don't take vaccines.
Well, I mean, if you did.
Have you ever seen anyone get a vaccine?
Have you ever noticed how the process works?
Do you ever look at the button?
No, of course not.
Do you pick it off the shelf at a drugstore, bring it to the doctor and say, this is the one I want?
I think this is more just about a legal thing.
Yeah, just put it on the label.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, done.
Could cause narcolepsy.
They should make you sign a waiver.
That's what they should do.
That's probably...
I think that happens.
I'm sure you have to sign a waiver if you get a vaccination these days.
No.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
I'm sure you do.
I'm sure you have to sign something that in a fine print says, Dude, have you ever been to the doctor recently?
The minute you sign up for a doctor...
Dude!
Dude!
The minute you sign up for the doctor, you sign everything away.
Anyway, it doesn't matter.
Vaccine exemption is likely to be more difficult soon.
A new bill.
You know, parents have been trying to get out of these mandatory vaccines for their kids, and it looks like that's not going to be possible anymore.
I think it's time to take a break.
Okay, let's do that then.
I'm going to show my support by donating to no agenda.
Imagine all the people who could do that.
Oh yeah, that'd be fab.
Yeah, on no agenda In the morning A warning, donating to No Agenda may cause narcolepsy.
Hopefully it doesn't.
We do have a few people to thank for this week's episode.
James Murray in Houston, Texas, $155.55.
Always a great show.
Would like a birthday call.
We've got that listed.
Cole has used No Agenda Topics for a couple of school essays and the teachers are not happy.
Really?
Yeah.
They should be delighted.
I would think, but the teachers, well actually I have a clip.
We might as well interrupt the thank yous and play the school stories.
It's a book.
The old lady, Phyllis Schlafly, who's actually, I find more interesting than ever, with a partner of hers, wrote a book called The Flip Side of Feminism.
And you can play the school stories thing.
I think this may be part of the problem.
If that setup was worthless, what the hell?
I don't care about who the author is sleeping with.
In order for men to be a certain way.
And now, with feminism, we are not promoting that anymore.
So now men are not growing up.
It's really very simple, but it didn't come out in the article.
Well, I would add to that the domination that women have, feminists have, in the educational system.
And it starts in the elementary grades, which are mostly run by women and now largely feminists because of the power of the teachers' union.
And your typical, not all, but your typical elementary school teacher looks upon unruly boys as just unruly girls.
And they need to be made to behave like girls.
And they need to sit still and do the work with a pen and pencil that girls can do very easily.
And unfortunately, a lot of new schools are being built without playgrounds, and recess is being canceled in a lot of schools.
Now, this is a direct attack on the boys who've got to go out and run around and beat each other up so they can come in and learn something.
And the feminists won't tolerate that because they have this insane idea that boys and girls are the same.
And I've already mentioned the whole problem of sports.
They're trying to take sports away.
So the colleges are now 60-40 female-male.
Well, nobody likes this.
The girls don't like it, but they've done it.
The feminists have done it.
Wow.
Yeah.
Just don't send your kid to school at all.
It's like prison camp.
That's what I say.
It's like a concentration camp.
Hold on.
This is unbelievable.
Just take your medslaid.
Just take your medslaid.
That's why I need some meds.
So, Cole...
Actually, there's a point to that meds thing.
The kids are running around.
Just give them Ritalin.
Yeah, give them some meds.
Don't give them recess.
Give them some meds.
I like this one.
Boys need to go run around and beat each other up.
Yeah, that's right.
That's what we do.
So, Cole needs some karma.
Yeah, he needs a lot of it, apparently.
You've got karma.
I feel really bad for Cole.
Yeah, geez.
Well, but you can keep trying.
Actually, what you should do is just write satires.
In other words, take the opposite side of what he knows to be right and write it up as though that's right and see how far he gets.
Jeff Juniper, Whitehorse.
Wait a minute.
That's your entire philosophy.
That's you.
Don't tell the kid to do what you do.
Yes, Juniper.
Whitehorse Yukon, Canada.
That's out there.
I sold some silver since it's crazy high and I thought I'd share the love.
Thank you.
Keep up the great work, guys.
It's much appreciated.
Could use some karma, too.
It's been a long winter.
You've got karma.
I hear you on the winner, Jeff.
$155.33 from Jeff Juniper.
Heather Aronson, San Francisco, San Francisco.
There she is.
I'm waving at her now.
Hi, boys.
Here's my birthday formula donation for my April 16th birthday.
Throw me some birthday karma and call Taylor out as a douchebag.
Douchebag.
In the most loving way possible.
I heart you, she says.
You've got karma.
He's been listening and not donating.
No, that's not okay.
And we got a couple of hugs and kisses from Heather.
Todd Sinclair, Jerseyville, Illinois, 67.67, current $5 a month, blah, blah, blah.
I haven't assassinated my subscription yet.
I purchased the following domains, and I think you have these on there.
No, I didn't have this one.
Okay, well he's got...
Highway80potholes.com.
Yes, Highway80potholes.com.
I'll document potholes and I'll send him the video.
No, you should do something with the domain name.
Put it on the domain.
That's good.
Yeah, maybe I should.
That's a great idea for a domain name.
Monscamto.
Monscamto.
Monscampto.
Okay, put that into the bullshit filter, guys.
Monscampto.
And he needs a shot of karma also.
Of course he does.
You've got karma.
The No Agenda BS filter is going multilingual.
He gave a 6767 because he's off of Highway 67, which is all full of potholes, too, I'm sure.
John Martinez, Gilroy, California, sharing some tax refund.
We recommend everyone who has a tax refund to help us out.
5555, Peter Dobson, Port Melbourne, Victoria, Australia.
Also 5555, Maxwell Robertson, Crown Point, Indiana.
Glad to see Gaddafi's antics have been great for the show.
We should do something crazy so we can get some better material.
I'd like to give some karma out to...
Grant Sprindman and Melissa Myers, who got married Saturday.
Congratulations.
Isn't that nice?
He wants some karma for them.
You've got karma.
Anybody else who wants to douche out David Swanson for being a douchebag by supporting trains?
Really?
He trains over planes.
I don't know why.
Who would?
Fifty of double nickels on the dime from Maxwell.
Alexander Munros.
50-11 in the morning from a college student, another college student helping us out to graduate with a theology degree.
I've been investing in silver and gold when the prices were $11 an ounce for silver and under $700 for gold.
I made good money.
Here's $50.11.
Can I get a de-douching?
And Carmine needs a double.
Oh, a double shot.
You've been de-douched.
You've got Carmine.
He needs a job.
Yes, he will need a job, yeah.
Yeah, well.
And finally, hold on a second, this thing just jumped the route.
Jason Dozier in Kansas City, Missouri, and finally, Tommy Ida.
In Trondheim, Norway.
I love the show.
There's nothing wrong with Adam singing.
Really?
I recently passed my diverse test.
Driver's test.
Says diverse test.
No, it doesn't.
Okay, driver's test, but it's all one word.
And won some cash betting on football.
That's good.
The European version of it, of course, which we call soccer.
So I decided to donate some to the fantastic show.
He's another student.
Doesn't have a job.
I would donate more if he could.
Need some karma so I can find some work for the summer.
Thanks for the show.
You can read the rest of the note.
Stay cranky, John.
You've got karma.
Trondheim, Norway.
Trondheim.
Another place we've got to visit.
We've got to go to Norway.
I still want to visit these United States of Gitmo Nation.
Yeah, you know, you need to get your...
I need an RV. I need a go-kart.
I need a go-kart.
Thank you all so much for supporting the show.
As we have mentioned ad nauseum, but we never can mention it enough.
It is the only model we adhere to.
It's completely open source.
You can take anything you want from the show, spread it anywhere.
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Well, distribute the show for us.
I mean, we distribute it, but it doesn't hurt to be on your website.
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Excellent.
So, there was another thing that...
There was a couple of things, actually, that I... Remember the New Zealand Three Strikes Your Out law that got rammed through on these poor Gitmo Nation Kiwi people who were just getting over this earthquake?
Yeah, it was pretty sneaky.
Can you remember that far back, like the whole show ago?
Not really.
I can only remember what happened yesterday afternoon.
So another clip shows up from this so-called debate they had.
And this is Claire Curran.
And she is a lawmaker there.
And I'm not quite sure how everything works in Parliament there.
They're rowdy, though.
I like it.
They're kind of like the Brits.
They go...
Someone's talking.
There's some guy.
Maybe he just doesn't know where he is.
Canadians do the same thing.
They get really nasty.
Well, it's all owned by the Queen.
So that's why.
You suck!
They like to yell.
Yeah.
I think it's just like old guys just waking up going, oh!
Where am I? And she came out with some really interesting information that pertains to the United States that I did not know and what turns out we're not supposed to know.
I refer, Mr.
Speaker, to the Trans-Pacific Partnership Agreement.
Now, have you heard of this, John?
The Trans-Pacific Partnership Agreement?
No.
No good.
A free trade agreement of sorts currently under negotiation between New Zealand and eight other countries, including the US.
It's an attack on our sovereignty and what it currently contains in relation to intellectual property issues is truly frightening.
Amen.
Leaked texts of the IP chapter reveal that if it was accepted in its present form and if New Zealand signed up, then the legislation would be chicken feed in comparison.
And this is the next battleground for intellectual property in New Zealand and we all need to unite around it.
Auckland-based IP lawyer Rick Shearer has written about this recently.
He said...
The return of Section 92A, guilt on accusation, repeat infringer, termination of internet accounts, three strikes.
The US wants us to effectively scrap the last three years of consultation around the replacement of Section 92A and the reasonably balanced but still not perfect approach we are working towards in the copyright infringing file sharing amendment bill.
Imagine you're an ISP who has had to bear the cost of gearing up for that regime All right, now she goes kind of off the rails.
She's like, ISP, who gives a crap?
So I go look at this Trans-Pacific Partnership deal, which indeed is marked confidential, and it actually says this may be emailed, but it may not be sent to press, etc.
So, of course, that means it's kind of secret.
The whole thing, John, is...
Wait, hold on.
You mean it actually says it can't be sent to the press?
Yeah, you want me to bring it up?
I think the press isn't all over this.
Are you kidding me?
With Lucy Napolitano's show coming out, we have other important things to tend to, sir.
I hope you realize that.
I can bring it up for you if you want.
I'm looking at it now.
This document contains TPP confidential information, modified handling, authorized.
Four years from entry, this document must be protected from unauthorized disclosures, but may be mailed or transmitted over unclassified email or fax discussed over unsecured phone lines and stored on unclassified computer systems.
It must be stored in a locked or secured building, room, or container.
Why?
Because if you actually knew it was in this, you would freak out.
This is all about evergreening.
This is the main thing here.
And this is why they got to do this quite...
This was obtained February 10th, 2011.
So when you talk about copyright, everyone's like, it's copyright and patents, or as they would say in the Queen's English, patents.
And, but it's kind of, everyone, the red herring is the copyright.
So let's make a lot of noise about, oh, copyright, file sharing, ISPs, blah, blah, blah.
But what it truly is about is evergreening copyrights.
So if a publisher owns the copyright to your book for a certain amount of time, regardless of whatever the hell you think you've got, Mr.
Dvorak, it's going to be evergreen forever.
So intellectual, nothing will ever go into the public domain.
It'll be owned by Hollywood forever.
That's just to get the media on board for the true purpose, which is evergreening of patents, of medicines, genetically modified organisms.
They will own stuff forever forever.
Where's the language in there that says any of this?
Okay, I didn't highlight it for the purposes of this show.
I figured you'd just take my word for it.
Wrong.
I'm not wrong, though.
Seriously.
No, I know you don't believe me.
No, it's not that I don't believe you.
I just think you may have gone overboard with your interpretation.
I don't think so.
I don't think so.
Because it's a violation of the Constitution.
That's probably why they want to keep it a secret.
The Constitution clearly outlines what can and can't be done regarding copyrights and patents.
Well, but this has already been changed before.
We've already extended the copyrights and patents.
In fact, the holders of the Viagra patent got a 293 extension on that in 1994...
These things happen all the time.
So, you know, Constitution smonstitution.
Bomb Libya.
Bomb Syria.
But now all of a sudden, now that it's about your copyright over about your books, now you're like, oh, this is no good.
This is unconstitutional.
I thought, what do you mean?
I've always said the same thing.
I'm very strict constitutionalist.
We pound people to death in the desert, and you're like, eh, get used to it.
Eh, get used to it.
Well, was I an advocate of this?
Let's kill them all.
I agree.
Patent shall be available for any new forms, uses, or methods of using a known product in a new form.
I'm trying to find that.
I mean, now you're like cotton.
This is now a theme.
This goes into the theme book as something we have to follow closely.
Especially since they're trying to cover it up.
Go ahead, say it.
Say it.
Okay, so here it is.
Overall, I'm paraphrasing, so I'm going to have to now look into it, and hopefully other people will do some of the work, because this is interesting, and of course we only have parts of the document.
The proposal for the TPP... Where's WikiLeaks when we need them?
Oh, please.
It's not important to them.
Overall, the intellectual property chapter of this TPP agreement would include a number of features that would lock in as global norm many controversial features of U.S. law such as endless copyright terms.
Create new global norms that are contrary to U.S. legal traditions, such as those proposed to damages for infringement.
This is a big one, by the way.
It's like, you go away forever.
The enforcement of patents against surgeons and other medical professionals.
Oh, you know what that's all about?
Tell me.
They have a lot of, you know, you have process patents now.
And so there's a certain, there may be a procedure that some surgeon may develop and he'll patent it.
And you can't use that procedure without paying the guy.
I'm dying.
I'm sorry.
This procedure is copyrighted.
Literally.
This is great.
Hey, we should get into the porn patenting business.
Now, see that stuff I just did?
That's patented.
You can't do that legally.
We'll come bust your door down.
Well, you know, that's where this all leads.
It all leads to crazy things happening.
You're actually right.
I think you've got a point there.
Rules concerning patents on biologic medicines.
Disclosure of information from ISPs.
This is crazy.
Undermine many proposed reforms of the patent and copyright system, such as, for example, proposed legislation to increase access to orphaned copyright works by limiting damages for infringement.
This is interesting.
Or statutory exclusions of non-industrial patents, such as those issued for business methods.
Wow.
You're right.
You're right.
It's a total takeover of everything.
But the red herring is get everyone like bitching and moaning about getting thrown in jail for copyright.
File sharing.
File sharing is bad.
I'm going to turn my icon black.
Meanwhile, when your lungs turn black and you can't get the procedure because you can't pay for the patent, the copyrighted move...
A double stitch.
Is someone feeding you lines?
That was good.
The double stitch.
Oh, I'm going to go to jail for using that.
I use their patented groovy sound.
At some point, this whole show is going to be a violation.
Well, it's interesting you bring that up.
I hope people enjoy it while they can.
Please do, because we are soon to come, ladies and gentlemen.
And John, I think you said it on Twit.
That's just Dvorak being wacky.
That's not my Leo impersonation, by the way.
That is just me.
You have said, you know, where this is all leading to is that you will have to have a license to do this show.
Just like we will have to have a license.
It's obvious.
Well, we're so close to it because now YouTube has copyright school.
Have you heard of this?
No, I want to watch it, though.
Okay, well, you'll listen to the audio and then you can watch it.
So if you've been busted for copyright infringement, what you have to do on your first strike is you have to go and watch this cartoon, which, by the way, is a blatant Rocky and Bullwinkle ripoff in itself, which is just unbelievable that no one is calling BS on YouTube for this, on Google for doing this.
It's totally Rocky and Bullwinkle, just, you know, a little different.
They ripped off those intellectual property characters.
Yeah, they got the squirrel and they got the moose, except they're called something else.
Moose and squirrel.
Squirrel!
And I said squirrel.
You're right.
I didn't comply.
So I'm going to play you three little clips from this.
You have to watch the whole thing.
So first of all, it's the setup because you're too stupid to understand copyright.
We've got to ram it down your sad, sad slave throat.
So, you didn't create that video.
You just copied someone else's content.
Uploading someone else's content without permission could get you into a lot of trouble.
It may be copyright infringement.
By the way, the squirrel's getting hit on the head with a hammer when he gets in trouble.
You get hit on the head with a hammer, apparently.
Copyright is a form of protection for original works of authorship, including literary, dramatic, musical, graphic, and audiovisual creations.
Copyright infringement occurs when a copyrighted work is reproduced, distributed, performed, or publicly displayed without the permission of the copyright holder or the legal right to do so.
Even though YouTube is a free site, you can get in serious trouble for copyright infringement.
You can be sued and found liable for monetary damages.
You could lose your booty.
Or worse, you could lose your YouTube account.
You only get a few chances.
If YouTube receives a valid notification of alleged copyright infringement from a copyright holder for one of your videos, the video will be removed in accordance with the law.
You'll be notified via email and in your account.
And you'll get a strike.
If YouTube finds you're a repeat offender, you'll get banned for life.
Here's an idea.
Why not make your own video?
Right.
So this is the...
What do they think?
We're idiots?
Yes.
Who produced this piece of garbage?
I don't know.
I don't think it had credits.
I can see why.
So then, of course, we have this little something called fair use.
So, do you think that they, how would they explain fair use if we...
Well, fair use, they probably have a whole video about that because that's actually very complicated, but at the same time, simple.
Okay, so the way they do this is the fair use, which is read almost like a disclaimer, old school, really fast and unintelligible.
Really small letters roll across the screen and you see the fair use sign is squeezing the squirrel because, oh no, you don't want to deal with it.
Fair use is complicated.
You need a lawyer.
Don't think about fair use.
Fair use, no, no, that's bad.
You don't want to use fair use.
YouTube provides tools for rights holders to control the use of their content.
I'm sorry, that's the wrong one.
Here's the fair use clip.
Did you get permission for it?
Mash-ups or remixes of content may also require permission from the original copyright owner, depending on whether or not the use is a fair use.
In the United States, copyright law allows for the fair use of copyrighted material under certain limited circumstances without required permission from the owner.
Under the law, determinations of fair use taking yourself purposefully use, the nature of the copyrighted work, the amount and substantiality of the work used in relation to the work as a whole, and the effect of the use upon the potential market for the copyrighted work.
Other jurisdictions may have similar copyright provisions protecting fair use or fair dealing.
If you're uncertain as to whether a specific use qualifies as a fair use, you should consult a qualified copyright attorney.
How horrible is that?
What?
What?
Wait a minute.
You did that.
No.
That is the way the video is.
They sped it up?
Yeah.
Yeah.
So one of the most important...
One of the most important aspects of free speech is fair use.
And so they just trivialize it, marginalize it with this bull crap at the end like that.
They should be ashamed of themselves, these people.
Who are they?
Who's the head of this operation?
Sergey Brin.
No, he's going to need...
Excuse me, excuse me.
The President of the United States is responsible for a lot of stuff.
Screw Sergey Brin.
Sergey, you're evil.
He should call a stop to this.
He of all people should call a stop to this, who use fair use of software all the time.
I got very angry when I saw this.
It not only trivializes the whole idea of fair use and completely squishes it in.
You can hear the squirrel getting blown up by the fair use clause.
It's like getting squished.
Consult a lawyer.
You don't need to consult a lawyer with fair use.
That's literally what they said.
Consult a lawyer.
You couldn't hear it because it was sped up.
I heard that part.
I heard him say, consult a lawyer.
Every time you deal with fair use, which is most use...
You know, quoting is what bloggers do.
When you take a clip from somebody's article and they drop the clip to two sentences at the beginning of an article and the headline.
It's fair use.
No one's ever been sued over it.
And you don't need to call a lawyer every time you do it.
It's ridiculous.
So, of course, and this is the final bit, if you think that your account has been closed or your video taken down unjustly, YouTube has tools available.
But, John, don't you dare misuse those tools.
YouTube provides tools for rights holders to control the use of their content.
If someone takes down your video by mistake, or as a result of a misidentification of the material to be removed, there's a counter-notification process for that.
You can send YouTube a notice that there was an error.
But be careful.
If you misuse the process, you could end up in court.
And then you would get in a lot of trouble.
That's how the law works.
That's how the law works.
Well, I'll give you.
You win today's show.
How sad is that, though, really?
That's pathetic.
It really hurts.
Well, you can go into a funk again and maybe we'll get more donations.
No, I'm not going into no funk.
Not over that.
I could go into a funk over the Belgian cleric.
Bishop Rogier van Gelwe.
Wow, I can't even pronounce that.
Nice try.
That's pretty bad.
Let me try that again.
Van Gelwe.
Yeah, it's Belgian.
He went on TV to talk about how he sexually abused two boys, but doesn't see himself as a pedophile.
He said...
What is he then?
You know, I cut it off around six.
Oh, God.
It had nothing to do with sexuality, he said.
Oh, he just likes the company.
He says, look...
He's asexual.
Of course I know this was not good.
I've confessed many times.
Oh, well, there you got it.
He describes the 13 years of sexual abuse to which he had subjected one nephew from the age of five as more than a little piece of intimacy.
And he says, as with all families, when the boys came to visit, the nephew slept with me.
Yeah, that happens with all families.
Oh, my God.
I think I'm going to puke.
It's terrible.
Most of these guys are deluded.
It began as a game with the boys.
It was never a question of rape.
Oh my God!
I don't have the impression at all that I'm a pedophile, he says.
It was really just a small relationship.
What?
I did not have the feeling that my nephew was against it.
Quite the contrary.
Oh my God.
You know, this is unbelievable.
This is just unbelievable.
You know, Ashton Kutcher and Demi Moore, they have to save the world.
And I don't know if there's an ulterior motive.
I think their heart's really in the right place.
So they're going out, and they were on Piers Morgan, and they're trying to stop sex slave trafficking.
This has been, by the way, I started spotting these sex trades, sex slave meme has been floating around.
And to be honest about it, whether they have intentions are good or bad, I've seen too much of it out of the blue to not be suspicious.
There's either a movie coming out.
Yeah, that's horrible.
There's a movie coming out or there's something else up.
Because this is just out of the blue.
Yeah.
I mean, it's not a new problem.
It didn't start up last week.
And now it's all over the place.
And of course, it's the old thing, oh, we want to make people aware of it.
Well, so what?
So they're aware of it.
It doesn't change anything.
How about change it?
Get off Piers Morgan and go do something.
I mean, this is kind of talk, talk, talk.
Oh, now they're aware of it.
I've done my job.
You haven't done anything.
So again, I... I want to like these people.
And I want to think that their heart's in the right place.
For some reason, those two in particular, I think they're just dumb.
And so they just like, they really mean well.
They're just dumb.
But I hear them talking, and I don't have any clips or anything.
I hear them talking like, you know, it's so hard to get politicians involved.
I'm like, duh, the most hookers in America are in Washington, D.C. You're not going to get anyone trying to help you out.
I mean, there's story after story of judge, of, you know, not all police officers, but in the justice system itself.
I've said this many times in Netflix, the entire justice system is one big, horrible mess of pedophilia.
In fact, you better watch out.
If you're not on board with some program, you actually could wind up in the hot tub with the cover on.
Be very, very careful.
And this is a non-starter.
I think there's a movie or something involved here, because this is coming out of the blue.
It's a short-lived phenomenon.
Nothing's going to change, and there will be some benefit.
We'll have to start doing some research, but it won't last.
No, probably not.
And then as a final thing for me, John, which does include a little clip, there was an interesting...
Let me just see if I can find it here.
Interesting note, and there was a PR company that I've started to investigate, and it really went like, wow, this is pretty amazing.
Let me just see.
Where is it here?
This is the...
Why can't I find it now?
This is peeing me off.
It's the...
I'm going to have to search for it.
Well, while you're searching for that, I can play a couple of short clips from some guy named, I think it's Mark Hertzgaard, some warmest douchebag that was on Democracy Now!
pretty much condemning everybody.
For, you know, anyone who doesn't believe in global warming.
I thought these guys had given up on it and they thought they changed the moniker, but apparently not.
You can play the warmest a-hole or warmest two.
I'll play them both.
...invaluable to science.
That's how skeptics and the media, I'm very sorry to say the mainstream media at least, calls them climate skeptics.
They are not skeptics.
Genuine skeptics are invaluable to science.
That's how science progresses is with skepticism.
But a true skeptic can be persuaded by evidence.
They cannot.
They have made up their minds for economic reasons or ideological reasons that they're not going to believe in this.
And because our country has allowed them to dominate the debate for 20 years, we're now stuck with 50 more years of rising temperatures.
We're now locked in.
My daughter, the rest of Generation Hot, are locked in to living under the hottest, most volatile climate our civilization has ever known.
I am strong!
What a douche!
Generation hot!
Generation hot, baby!
Let's play the second clip.
My daughter and her generation are going to have to live with this, and I think that's a terrible crime.
All the extreme weather in the past years, there's a lot of debate as to whether we could reasonably...
Link that to climate change, whether it's the heat wave in New York City, record heat in 2010, the floods in Pakistan, the weather problems in Europe in 2003, your sense of that, the individual events versus the general trend.
There's only debate about that in the United States of America.
And I get this all the time now where people say, well, there's all this disagreement.
There is not any disagreement unless you are watching Fox News and listening to the House Republican Party.
Look at the countries in Europe, for example.
Conservative parties are running Britain, Germany, France.
None of those conservative political parties have...
Oh my gosh!
The science is in!
Science!
Squirrel!
What an a-hole!
That's what I said!
Oh my god!
Well this actually plays right into what I was about to do.
This plays right into it.
So the reason why...
So of course, this all is promoted by huge PR companies.
And the way you get something in the news, John, we've said it time and time again, is you've got to have some science.
Science!
You've got to have a study.
So I read about this particular, because I read the Polish administration has hired the PR firm of Burson Marsteller to help run its EU presidency later this year.
One of the big ones.
Right.
So they're young in Rubicam.
They're a part of WPP. They're huge.
Huge.
So I'm like, why don't I just go over and take a look at the website for Burson Marsteller.
Oh my gosh.
So, the first thing I... What do you want to do?
You want to look at case studies.
Like, what have they done so far?
You know, in case we wanted to hire them to promote our show.
So, they've...
We'd be on easy street.
So, did you know that the Earth Hour campaign is one of theirs?
You know, where you turn off the lights?
You didn't think that that just, like, cropped up somewhere.
That's useful.
And everyone went, well, hey, this is a good idea.
Oh, you know, it's like, this wasn't like a...
Hey, Mary, it's dark.
Am I dying?
This wasn't like a Twitter thing.
No, this was a sophisticated PR effort.
And they were hired to...
And by the way, this Earth Hour campaign was developed by the WWF, the World Wildlife Foundation, to raise awareness of climate change.
Encourage energy efficiency and make a significant contribution towards reducing carbon footprints.
Yeah, a significant contribution.
So they were hired.
They came to the game late, but I guess they stole a piece of the business of Earth Hour.
They were supposed to help India join Earth Hour.
So how did they do this?
This is fascinating because they put it on their website.
So, in 2010, they worked with the WWF, that's our client, in the hope of expanding the reach of Earth Hour to cities beyond Delhi and Mumbai through a cost-effective, integrated PR campaign that targeted a core audience of urban youth and prominent corporations with the hope of exceeding previous targets.
So, how do we do that?
Well, we gotta get some celebrities.
So, Burson Marsteller developed a unique campaign that kicked off with a press conference featuring Bollywood superstar Abhishek Baham as the brand advocate for Earth Hour 2010.
Is it starting to come clear, people, how this works?
Hire a celebrity!
I don't know.
I don't know where the pro bono comes from one way or the other.
Pro bono.
It's beside the point.
Leveraging print, radio, and outdoor advertising to convey important campaign messages.
Oh, they got the ads for free.
Yeah, exactly.
Right.
The campaign was supported by HT's radio channel.
Fever 102 radio DJs delivered targeted messages.
Yeah, I bet they did that for free.
Then they developed a customized Earth Hour 2010 website.
There's another $100,000.
And created Facebook and Orcut communities to register participants and provide further details on the campaign.
So the whole thing, this whole Earth Hour, which you thought foolishly was like, hey, this is something good.
Hey, why don't we just all do this?
Turn off the lights.
It's like turning your Twitter icon black.
But you've been completely manipulated by the compromised media.
So now I start reading a little bit about how they do their work.
And they have two disciplines that are unique to what they call B&M, Burson-Marstel.
They're unique, unique, unique capabilities.
And one of them, and John, this blew me away, is evidence-based communications.
Ooh.
We can learn a lot from these guys.
You can learn a ton.
This is their own promotional video, and they have all their douchebags there.
Evidence-based communications, which is code for scientists being paid to come up with a study that proves your point.
Evidence-based communications is...
A fundamental part of everything we are doing moving forward at Burson-Marsteller.
Certainly it's a part of client service, meaning in our everyday work for the clients we already have, and showing them that research and empirical tools will make them better and will make us better as an agency.
Evidence-based communications is a way to say to our clients, first and foremost, you're going to make this investment, and we want to show you what you get out of it.
What could that investment be in, John?
What do you think?
Sounds to me like they're investing in a study of some kind of science.
They employ scientists.
And not just in a soft way, because often what we do in communications is less tangible.
It's a little harder to measure.
But what if we could come up with a way to actually measure it?
To show people and show our clients Here's where you are now, or here's what your reputation is now, or here is what we believe the best message can be for now, and if you do this and you make these investments, here's what we believe you can move to.
Here's how much better you can be.
I start from that framework that I found many clients were willing really to go through all of the extra steps of not wanting the answer first, but wanting to have a process of getting to the answer.
Oh, I love that!
Having a process of getting to the answer.
In other words...
Wait, wait.
In other words, more billable hours, but go ahead.
Obviously more billable hours, but it's kind of defined.
It's like, you know, okay, we're going to have all these hours that we're going to bill to you, but then you'll have a study at the end of a piece of paper that is definable.
It's empirical.
It's empirical tools.
That were supported not just with great creative and messaging, but with really hard facts that led to those conclusions.
Because the probability that they're going to be successful, Look, at the end of the day, the prospect is going to spend their hard-earned money on an agency to help them achieve some result.
And we can either make stuff up and guess at a solution and walk into the room and pitch a solution that hasn't been tested or isn't empirical.
And we can all sort of wonder, well, we like those guys and they seem smart and we'll buy that and we'll someday wonder if we were successful or not.
Or we can come into this process And say, we have empirical tools that will allow us to measure how we're doing, allow you to have confidence in us as an agency, allow us to have confidence in the recommendations that we're giving you.
And to me, that completely changes the nature of a new business conversation.
There's no other firm, I think, that can bring together the capabilities of evidence-based and infuse it into our everyday client relationships.
I think clients today are demanding more from us.
They're demanding more evidence that the money that they spend is going to be successful and is successful.
It's about applying some of the science that we have available today to really help direct both the message and evaluation of the programs that we do.
And I think it makes our work so much more valuable.
There you go.
Evidence-based communication.
It's how it works.
Yep.
Well, it's been that way for, I don't know, the last 30 or 30 years.
I know, but it's nice to put a name to it.
Oh, it's actually great that these guys...
I mean, this is how...
Talk about hubris.
We talked about this was the theme of the show.
Talk about hubris.
To actually come out and just lay it all out and not try to...
I mean, essentially, it's been long since these PR companies have long...
I know many of the people that are involved with this, and they're just...
Yeah, yeah, that's what we do.
I mean, we manipulate the media because the media is a bunch of idiots anyway.
And the public will go along with it.
The media tells them and we can tell them what to do.
And they're very straightforward about it.
I mean, they're not trying to cover it up.
They're not trying to hide anything.
It's just the fact that the public doesn't seem to, you know, make the leap to figure this out, that this is what's happening to them.
And as long as they don't, this will continue.
And they never will, by the way.
Well, there is one more thing.
And that is their discipline known as effluentials.
Because in 1998, Burs and Marsteller identified a group of online opinion makers, which they call e-fluentials, which has a little R, by the way.
It's a registered trademark.
Oh!
Who have exponential influence shaping and driving public opinion through the Internet and throughout the offline world.
Compared with the average Internet user, eFluentials are far more active in their usage of email, news groups, bulletin boards, listservs, other online vehicles when conveying their messages.
While they are extremely influential online, eFluentials also spread their opinions in the offline world as well.
Their families and peers regularly approach them for information, opinions, and advice on a wide range of subjects.
Now...
E-fluentials.
Over the past nine years, and so you said, you know, the public will never hear about it.
Think about if you know anyone like this.
Over the past nine years, we have extended our knowledge of e-fluentials with research on segment-specific influential audiences, including tech influentials, mom-fluentials, and youth-fluentials.
Each eFluential segment is nuanced in terms of how its members influence their peers and how they can be most effectively reached by organizations.
In other words, people who you are listening to on podcasts, watching in online video segments, are paid for their communication.
This is what the mommy bloggers is all about, who actually get paid to tweet about vaccines.
Who knows who else is being paid to promote something?
Because these guys, here's your hubris right here.
They actually pay people to influence your technology buying, the mom fluentials for the stuff that you buy in the supermarket, and the youth fluentials for God knows what.
Yeah, no, I know this is a fact.
Okay, now here's the interesting part of this.
Burson, Marsteller, Ogilvy, all these guys.
Ogilvy has a whole operation very similar to this called Ogilvy 360, which is about social media.
And the idea is that they want to get these bloggers.
You know who they are.
Their name crops up all the time.
I am not one of them.
I have not gotten a check from a PR agency in my life.
I have to be honest.
I have to be completely honest with you right now.
I am a member of the Milfluential Group.
Yeah, okay.
Anyway, back to seriousness.
So what they don't want to talk about...
And I'm going to...
People who listen to the whole show will get a kick out of this because a lot of people will never get to the end of the show and they probably should.
What they don't want to talk about is this doesn't work.
Oh, really?
Oh, that sucks.
The old way works better.
I mean, they still do the old way with the DJs and the hot Bollywood stars and the George Cloonies and that.
That still works.
Let me just read.
This is a report that has been suppressed.
It came out of 4C and it was out of the UK talking about the UK marketing mix.
I don't have this.
We have to do our own report or do some research to prove this in the US too.
It might be a little different.
But this was a study done on primary influences on what percent of shoppers that people would go buy something from anyone.
Buy an idea, buy a product, buy anything.
And this is the order of influence from top to bottom.
The number one influence, what makes you want to buy anything, is the familiarity with the brand.
Right.
That's 46%.
Number two, when it comes on...
Sorry.
What?
No, I just coughed.
Sorry.
Oh, number two is search engine results.
Really?
Really.
Thirteen percent.
Then promotional emails.
Ten percent.
By the way, we have mail.
Well, but e-fluentials do promotional emails, don't they?
And search results can also be results based upon e-fluentials.
But this is just a pure play.
Word of mouth.
Which is another 10%.
TV, newspaper, radio, magazine ads.
Internet ads.
Interaction on social networks comes in at 3%.
So in other words, Obama is a shoo-in for the next election because of his brand awareness.
Yeah.
Probably, right?
Shopping comparison websites, by the way, came in at 2%, which is bad news for them.
Blogs, 1%.
And product review websites, which is the sorry number, 1%.
So these things are exaggerated.
They've been hyped.
They've been pumped.
In fact, the mechanism itself that these guys produce, the PR people, they've actually promoted this concept to themselves.
They've effluenced themselves.
They've influenced themselves.
It's illegal.
I'm just saying this to anybody who runs a corporation and wants to deal with this.
Don't waste your money.
Well, anyway, this once again proves that we have the right idea.
And the idea is don't try and sell anything except for a great product and let people figure out if they want to send you some money for it.
And I quite simply, I wake up and I'm happy about it.
I'm poor, but I'm happy.
And you should be.
And I don't have to wear that douchebag suit these guys are wearing.
Now, I do have an end-of-show clip which contrasts mightily with what we've just been talking about.
I think it is the culmination of where TV is headed.
It was a clip taken with Alicia Cuthbert, the pretty blonde actress, on the Jimmy Kimmel show.
And I think this summarizes the direction in which television is headed.
And I'm not really complaining about it that much.
So we don't have to come back after that clip?
No, we're done.
That clip ends the show.
Remember everybody, Dvorak.org slash NA. So the things we're looking for for our next program, which will be on Thursday, is why did we want to kick Russia out of the Mediterranean?
What do we want from them?
That's the one thing we've got to be on the lookout for.
And the other one is we're still looking for an RV for the Gitmo Nation tour, Hot Pockets Across America.
And your help, of course, is highly appreciated in finding that.
Someone's got to have one of these things that we can borrow for a couple of weeks.
I would hope.
Yeah.
And as always, nice talking to you twice a week, John.
Good talking to you too, sir, Adam.
Breaker breaker.
Coming to you from Gitmo Nation West here in the People's Republic of Southern California at the Hilltop Watchtower Crackpot Command Center.
In the morning to you all, I'm Adam Curry.
And it's in the morning someplace, obviously.
I'm from northern Silicon Valley, or that's where I am anyway at the moment.
In the Buzzkill Bunker, I'm John C. Dvorak.
We'll talk to you again on Thursday right here on No Agenda.
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You know when you're with someone for a substantial amount of time, it's hard, especially with guys, to come up with great gifts.
Oh, and I never told you this story.
I ordered him, a friend of mine said, because we have a pool table, and he loves to play pool with the guys and whatnot.
I don't play pool, but he's great at it.
And so a girl friend of mine said, there's this website that does custom balls.
You can get them custom balls.
What's custom about them?
Custom, you can put their name in there.
In the ball?
In the ball.
They're clear, but they have a little bit of a...
That's kind of cool.
So I thought that was like, you know what, this is a clever idea.
Yeah.
This is something, this is like a novelty gift.
Something you need.
This is a definite need, not a want.
It's a need.
No, it was just a fun, unique gift.
Yeah.
So I get on the phone, I call, I order them, and then they show up finally, and I open the box, and you know what the ball said?
No.
They were supposed to say Dion Phaneuf and they said Chloe and Lamar Odom.
What?
Why?
One athlete got one guy's balls and the other athlete got the other guy's balls.
You swapped balls with the Kardashian over?
The company swapped balls.
The company swapped our balls.
So did you get...
So I got Lamar's balls and he got Dion's balls.
Oh wow.
Hollywood, you know?
That's a collective item, huh?
Hey, Chloe, can I get my guys' balls back, please?