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	This is no agenda.
	It's Adam Curry.
	And George C. Devorak.
	Adam Curry.
	John C. Devorak.
	It's Sunday, April 3rd, 2011.
	Time for your Gitmo Nation Media Assassination Episode 292.
	This is no agenda.
	Free speech.
	It's a great idea.
	But we're at war here at the Hilltop Watchtower Crackpot Command Center in Gitmo Nation West, the People's Republic of Southern California, In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
	And from Gitmo Nation Glass Buildings, I'm John C. Dvorak.
	It's Crackpot and Boothkill.
	Gitmo Nation Glass Buildings.
	I've got glass buildings everywhere I look.
	On the road again, eh, my friend?
	I'll tell you, you know, I'm in New York City, which is also Gitmo Nation glass buildings, and there's a bunch of clouds flying around, and they're reflecting off the glass buildings, and it's actually quite a sight.
	You sure it's not persistent jet contrails?
	These are big old pumuluses.
	A couple of nimbuses are flying by.
	So what's the deal, man?
	Why are you in New York?
	Well, it's my daughter's spring break, and she had a choice of doing a bunch of different things.
	Let's see.
	Cancun with my friends, getting drunk and running around naked, or go to New York with my dad.
	Let me think.
	Hmm, which one should I choose?
	She is looking at colleges, and so I have to drag her around because she's visiting various places she wants to go.
	And it's just basically just seeing dollar signs flying past my...
	Oh, yeah.
	I expect it to be broke after...
	Yeah, it's the joy of parenting.
	Yeah, it's a beautiful thing.
	So she's here looking at some places, and in the process, since she's in performing arts, we have to go see a few plays.
	Ooh!
	Actually, we saw a couple so far, and we're going to try to see Spider-Man.
	Spider-Man, yeah, that's what we want the review of.
	Yeah, well, actually, the most interesting play, if I just get off of a slight tangent here, which I think helps me appreciate why people like our show, It was the opening of the preview, which was a big hit play in London called Jerusalem.
	The audience liked it, but I think there was a lot of Anglophiles, and I'm not absolutely sure.
	My wife liked it, and my daughter liked it, but...
	I think they didn't quite get it until I explained to them, based on during our moments of deconstructing Great Britain and the drunkenness, futility of life and all the rest of it, is extremely well explored in this play.
	It's a very depressing play about essentially...
	Drunken British youth.
	And that was my life for five years.
	I don't need to see the play.
	I got the t-shirt and the DVD. It's a really, it's a very, I mean, it's just like, wow.
	I mean, they have everything from the petty, small-town bureaucrats.
	They explore that element and everything in between of what...
	You know, British life has become under the Gitmo Nation auspices.
	Right.
	That it was, wow, I thought it was pretty hard-hitting.
	I mean, it was apparently a huge hit in Britain, so I guess they're paying some attention.
	But it's a nihilistic, very dark view of things.
	Well, while you're doing that, I'm here with two chicks in the house and had a nice crepe breakfast with mimosas and...
	Yeah, you're living the life in Los Angeles.
	Yeah, we have Miss Molly Wood staying for the weekend.
	Oh, what's she up to?
	Hanging out with me in the hot tub.
	Oh, really?
	Yeah.
	And I have to thank you.
	Exactly.
	I have to thank you for introducing Molly to Mickey.
	What a stroke of genius, my friend.
	I have my moments.
	Yes, you do.
	By the way, I see it.
	Tall women seem to gravitate toward each other.
	It works.
	All kinds of benefit.
	Absolutely.
	Now, you being on New York Time, did you watch any of the early morning news talk shows?
	I ended up watching, there's a bunch of screwy shows.
	New York is weird because, and you have to come here every so often to realize how isolated it is from the general American thought process.
	Yeah, unlike California.
	Actually, I believe it is unlike California.
	They don't even have the California stuff going on.
	I mean, California is maybe one step isolated, but I think New York is two.
	In fact, I wonder if we even have any donors from New York.
	I mean, they're so isolated.
	Not many.
	It's true, not many.
	Yeah, they're so isolated that, generally speaking, they don't even run a lot of syndicated stuff that California runs.
	You know, national shows and various kinds of...
	I mean, for example, they have a...
	I mean, the news in the morning is like...
	New York One is a perfect example.
	It's just basically from New York, about New York, by New Yorkers.
	This morning's talk shows the New York Times have some character who...
	To be honest, I shouldn't be on television because he needs dental work and he wears glasses with no glare proof on him, so he's blasting you with the stage lights.
	What an amateur.
	What an incredible amateur.
	It's not a matter of that.
	I mean, somebody's just got to tell him.
	But nobody bothers because you're in New York.
	So everything's just New York-oriented, so you get completely isolated here.
	So I watched, because we were up early for the show this morning, I watched Face the Nation.
	And of course, it's way too late to record any clips or anything.
	And Lindsey Graham from, was he South Carolina?
	Is he a senator from South Carolina?
	That guy is getting on my nerves.
	So they're talking about this bogus, oh, we beheaded people in Afghanistan because some douchebag burned the Koran.
	And he literally said, and I'll get a clip from it for Thursday's show, I'm sure.
	He said, you know, free speech is a great idea, but we're at war.
	I'm like, what?
	Did you really just...
	And he's running for president.
	You know, he has gotten worse over time.
	If he thinks he's even going to get any votes, he's got to be fooling himself to think he's running for president.
	The guy is, he's a total douchebag.
	He's pro-war.
	He doesn't get it.
	You know, I mean, I'm sure there's a few people out there, you know, usually they're in the army and higher up, so they don't actually have to do any fighting.
	Most people that are...
	Have any experience with war?
	Aren't pro-war?
	If you've actually been in a war, you kind of tend to be against it.
	If you've had bombs dropping on your head and see your friends getting blown to bits, you tend to have an aversion.
	So the guy's like a warmonger.
	Like you just said, he's against the Constitution, against free speech.
	He's a conservative Republican that's ridiculous.
	He's not really conservative in any real sense in terms of being a constitutionalist.
	The guy's horrible.
	Hopefully he'll figure that out when he gets no votes or when he tries to run in a primary.
	So I did a little bit of deconstruction, and it kind of started, I think it was actually right after the show.
	As promised, the Federal Reserve released all of their secret documents.
	Which turned out to be a 136 megabyte file of PDFs.
	Just unbelievable.
	And it's still all redacted.
	And this, of course, is the information that the...
	Wait a minute.
	Hold on.
	Why would you redact a banker's statement?
	Oh, because there's tons of stuff in there they just don't want us to know.
	And then what is this report?
	Well, the good news is there was enough in it to be meaty enough.
	To know that $3.3 trillion was lent from the discount window to foreign banks, I mean, like all over the world, including a bank partially owned by Libya, duh.
	And they also have the TALF in there, which is the toxic asset bailout.
	And, you know, you get, like, these huge hedge funds from Wexford, from Connecticut, which, of course, the CEO is an ex-Goldman guy.
	Duh.
	And the, like, employee hedge funds and stuff.
	It's just, it was...
	It'll never get reported properly because it's not interpretable for the common man, I think, because it's even hard to understand how the whole system works.
	But then to see the rip-off, the blatant rip-off, where all of these guys just should have gone out of business.
	Literally.
	And instead, no, no, just borrow our money.
	So that led me to, especially the Libyan bank thing, led me to a couple of other interesting points.
	The fact, well actually, Ron Paul was on the clean, no, the antiwar.com podcast.
	And someone sent me a copy of it.
	And he...
	Now, knowing that the Fed will easily lend money to anybody, including banks partially owned by Libya, and that they do it secretly, he comes up with...
	I mean, if I ever kick the bucket, John, and he's not president, make him do the show, because he'd be perfect for it.
	But listen to how he deconstructs the financing of the rebels.
	All right, now...
	Your colleague, Representative Dennis Kucinich, has gone on the record saying that this is impeachable.
	Do you agree with him about that?
	Yeah, I think it's impeachable in the sense that he disobeys the Constitution, but how many presidents have done that in the last hundred years or so?
	It's an offense that is unconstitutional.
	Congress should take it upon himself.
	I don't imagine it's likely to lead to somebody introducing a resolution to impeach him because I think it would distract from something we can do more immediate like denying all funding for the war or make the Congress vote on this one way or the other.
	Well, that certainly would be something to see the Congress at least attempt to deny funding, but Hillary Clinton made the statement yesterday or the day before that even if Congress did refuse to provide funding for it, that they would just ignore it under the plenary and inherent powers of the presidency.
	When you think about it, how secret funding can occur, you know, through the Federal Reserve system, what does it matter?
	What does it matter to Congress?
	We're totally irrelevant.
	You know, just released figures that the Federal Reserve had loaned money to banks and other governments of $3.3 trillion.
	So, you know, if you need funding and the Fed created one, you know, and they set up a central bank.
	The rebels in Libya have already set up a central bank, so maybe we've loaned them.
	So I wonder if they've come to the discount window yet.
	And I bet you that's exactly what's happening.
	I'm sure of it now.
	Yeah, just roll up to the discount window.
	Hey, hey, it's Mohammed here.
	Hey, man, give me some money.
	At a central bank.
	Yeah, yeah, with a central bank, it's amazing.
	The central bank of no agenda.
	Wow, wouldn't that be cool?
	We could borrow a couple trill?
	Yeah, we could build something.
	I got a call yesterday from a reporter, and this is a testament to the show, which I'm quite proud of.
	A reporter from the Washington Post.
	What would you think of that newspaper, John?
	Are they okay?
	Well, it's compromised, but I find it to have a lot of...
	It's well written.
	So the guy, Paul Fari or something, he says he knows you, actually.
	Does that ring a bell?
	Paul Fari?
	Sounds very familiar.
	Yeah.
	He says, Adam, I'm doing this piece on Andy Carvin.
	And I asked, you know, Andy Carvin is the senior strategist at our National Treasure NPR. And he's the guy that's collecting all the tweets and passing them through the organization as news.
	He says, so he asked Andy, you know, does anyone kind of, you know, because he's, as this reporter said, you know, Andy's like a little mini celebrity now.
	You know, he's got the social media vibe.
	He's with all the hip kids.
	Yeah, I know who this is.
	That's funny.
	And he says, so I asked Andy if there was anyone who was critical of what you're doing, and your name was top of the list.
	And I'm like, hmm, did I call him a douchebag?
	I probably did, didn't I? Well, I don't know.
	Play this jingle.
	I mean, it'll jog my memory.
	Douchebag!
	Yeah, I think so.
	And I said, well, look, I got nothing against the guy personally, but, you know, for, and I have problems with, and I had to go back and explain.
	I said, yeah, do you know what I do?
	Yeah, you're a blogger.
	You're the ex of VG. I said, no, no, I'm not.
	So I had to explain about no agenda.
	I said, yeah.
	Whoa.
	Oops.
	Looks like we just lost all contact with reality.
	Okay.
	Well, there you go.
	The minute I start talking about them, they pull the plug on me.
	It's unbelievable.
	Is that a coincidence or what?
	You play douchebag and boom, they pull the plug.
	It's like, cut him off now.
	Cut him off now.
	He's onto his stomach.
	It was pretty screwy.
	It's par for the course.
	What's the guy's name again, Andy?
	Well, do you want the stream to go down again?
	I need to spell it.
	Andy Carvin, C-A-R-V-I-N. C-A-R-V-I-N. But anyway, he's like, why do you think this is not good?
	And I said, well, besides the problem that I have with NPR, a commercial organization, they have underwriters, which they call advertisers, whatever you want to call it.
	And I went into that a little bit with him.
	I said the whole fact that these tweets are being taken from a centralized commercial organization, unvetted as news, while the Secretary of State herself has said she has techno-experts who are tweeting in Farsi, there's so much room for disinformation.
	And this is seeping into a news organization.
	I have to say that...
	And they're not discussing it.
	And don't forget that Cass Sunstream, who's in the organization, whose power is his husband, who's associated with Hillary, has been advocating this sort of...
	The indoctrination, the infiltration of all of this.
	Yeah, so I wouldn't believe one tweet that they reported on.
	And so our reporter friend was shocked by this?
	Well, I have to say, he said, you know, I never thought of it that way.
	I said, this is the problem.
	It's the whole fanboyism.
	No one's questioning this.
	You can't even vet this stuff technically because you don't know what IP address it's coming from.
	You have no idea.
	It could be coming right from the State Department, from Washington.
	He says, yeah, but it might not be true.
	I said, exactly.
	He said, you're making my point for me.
	Happy anniversary, darling.
	402 years.
	I love you so much.
	Thank you very much.
	I know it's coming up, but you don't have to get too mushy.
	I'm sorry.
	So, yeah.
	So, anyway, the funniest thing is at the end of this, and who knows what's going to wind up in print?
	Oh, nothing.
	I thought it was going to wind up in print.
	Nothing.
	He says, so what do I call you?
	I said, well, I'm a media assassin.
	He says, yeah, but I need something that, you know, we're a stodgy old newspaper.
	I said, what, you have such disdain for your readers, they won't understand that?
	He says, no, actually, I'm talking about my editors.
	I said, okay, how about media deconstructionist?
	He says, yeah, but can't I just say blogger, media critic?
	I said, no.
	Andy Carvin's title is Senior Strategist at NPR. Are you going to print that as his title?
	Yeah.
	Well, what's the difference?
	If he's a senior strategist, I can be a media deconstructionist.
	And I just did that for you on this call.
	Anyway.
	But it was funny because I think this guy...
	No wonder you never get quoted.
	I'm not with the pro...
	And I'm just trying to promote no agenda.
	I'm just trying to promote no agenda, you know?
	What was your title?
	Producer, no agenda.
	Yeah, I know.
	I'm a douchebag.
	I'm so stupid.
	I don't know how to do it anymore.
	I got too much of a chip on my shoulder.
	Yeah, you do.
	Oh well, it's okay.
	Maybe you'll get another listener.
	The one person who reads the Washington Post who has internet.
	I got web.
	I got AOL here.
	I got Facebook.
	What is RSS? What is a podcast?
	A podcast.
	Well, anyway, did we have any support?
	Yeah, we did.
	After my meltdown, I want to thank everybody for all the lovely messages you sent me.
	That was very kind.
	Yeah, well, you know, Adam seems to, of course, some people misunderstood what you were up to, thinking you were criticizing the audience when you were actually depressed about the Constitution.
	The fact, in fact, we actually made it worse by playing the Ron Paul thing, because apparently, I mean, what he says is that, well, nobody in the Constitution Yeah, I know.
	But I'm over it now.
	I've been able to lift myself over that hump, but it was a wall that I hit so hard during the show.
	I'm like, it's just all over.
	And now at least I've come to terms with it.
	And now that I hear a future presidential candidate saying, you know, free speech is a great idea.
	Who needs it?
	We might as well just run this puppy all the way into the ground, John.
	We're going as far as we can take it.
	Yeah, no, in fact, I think people have to realize that this show is not long for this world, but we're going to keep doing it as long as we keep getting support.
	So, and as long as, you know, they leave us alone.
	Then they probably will as long as we keep our listenership, you know, from actually having, well, I don't know what to tell you.
	And Ixnay on the Andy K. Arvinay.
	Steven Vanderhoff in Bellhaven, North Carolina is our...
	We're going to have two executive producers and...
	One, two, actually these old people have to be there.
	We have two executive producers and one, two, now you have to excuse me because I'm scrolling back and forth and left and right on this laptop.
	One, two, three, four, five, four co-executive producers and two associates.
	So we have a good group.
	Good list.
	Steven Vanderhaaf of Belhaven, North Carolina gave us a very generous five, I don't know, it scrolls over too far.
	560, 560.
	$560, $560, which is $464.60 for his knighthood, $111 for You Know Why.
	Hello, John and Adam.
	Looks like your meme boots on the ground is spreading like wildfire throughout the media.
	That's true.
	Everyone's talking about it.
	Wouldn't it be funny, John, if actually everyone's listening to this show?
	They're all walking through the Pentagon and through Capitol Hill like, oh man, did you hear them?
	Did you hear them talking about boots on the ground?
	If there's a guy in the Pentagon listening to this show, I would like to just send me an anonymous note saying, yeah, of course not anyone can do it.
	Never mind, that doesn't count.
	So anyway, so he's going to be a knight, which is a good thing.
	David Dolson, Houston, Texas, 33333.
	John and Adam, long-time listener and couple-time donor, heard Thursday's show and felt a little bad.
	Adam got burned about the negativity in the chat room.
	It was more than that.
	So to bring the spirits up further and my goal of knighthood, please send some karma to Adam.
	Give yourself some karma.
	Oh, well, that's very nice.
	Thank you so much.
	You've got karma.
	Yay!
	For his dream about RVing across the U.S., I've watched C-SPAN, and anyone who hasn't has no idea what you guys go through.
	No kidding.
	I went through another two and a half hours of testimony about Libya, and my head was exploding.
	It was literally like gunk coming out of my ears.
	And then we have a bunch of 300 Club new 300 Club members, Sir Adam Burkpile in Arlington, Washington.
	Oh, he's from the Pocket No Agenda app.
	Exactly.
	He's donating to get Adam out of the pissy mood he was in on Thursday.
	So maybe you should get moody more often.
	I should try that, yeah.
	I'd like to mention the new version of the Pocket No Agenda, which is a great app, by the way, with Game Center support that scores who listens to the stream the most.
	Wow.
	Hey, Game Center, that's like a whole social thing with a Game Center thing.
	I've got to get that now.
	That's cool.
	I like that.
	This guy's good.
	Who listens to the stream the most earns achievements for listening to the stream and has multiple show push notification support.
	So if you ask people to turn on the optional ads, that would be great.
	Awesome.
	That's awesome.
	Bill Hertha, Thornhill, Ontario, $300.
	Dwayne Melikon, Sir Dwayne Melikon, let's get that straight.
	Also a member of the 300 Club, ITM guy, Sir Dwayne here, just a few episodes behind and just listening to episode 288.
	That's more than a few.
	I wanted to donate because that was the kind of show that got me hooked on No Agenda when I first discovered the show.
	I don't remember 288.
	I don't remember either.
	It's probably just like 287.
	Probably more like $2.89.
	Also, I sent my ring size but didn't get a reply, so I'm not sure you got it.
	I think so, probably.
	I'm not sure.
	But it's $12.5 for Eric the Shill if he doesn't have it on his list.
	And then Dwayne Mellicon, Sir Dwayne Mellicon.
	We just did Dwayne.
	I'm sorry.
	I'm going to scroll down.
	You're on the laptop.
	We'll let you slide.
	Sean McGrath, Jersey City, Jersey, another member of the 300 Club.
	Jersey!
	Rabbit.
	No.
	Squirrel!
	Oh, I thought it was rabbit.
	Uh-huh.
	Need some karma for the new MAC address book extractor from GroovyTree.com.
	Oh, well, let me hand that out for them, then.
	You've got karma.
	I'm available in the Mac App Store.
	Use it to export your Mac address book to a file so the NSA can't find it.
	Excellent.
	It also allows you to import into Gmail, which is the NSA. Yeah, really.
	What kind of round robin are you doing?
	Hotmail and Outlook and Yahoo.
	I would take a little aside here.
	So I'm at the airport.
	We're flying to New York.
	Family, right?
	And who's standing there with his wife?
	Bill Gates.
	No, Eric Schmidt.
	Oh, really?
	Huh.
	Yeah.
	So I went over and chatted with him.
	But I thought he has his own plane and everything.
	Well, apparently, that was his last day at Google.
	Oh, because he's no longer at Google, so all the perks go away.
	He's working for the government.
	It's already in?
	He could have taken the jet if he wanted to, I'm sure of it.
	But wait a minute, does he already have the gig?
	No, but he seems confident.
	In fact, he's flying to New York to go back and forth from New York to Washington and New York to Washington and New York to Washington for some reason.
	Yeah, for some NSA-related reason.
	I threw that at him because I wrote a column suggesting that Schmidt would be the best choice for, you know, head of security, NSA, CIA, something like that, and he thought I was an idiot.
	Did he say, did he look at you and go, you're an idiot?
	He never said I was an idiot, but he looked at me as though I wasn't.
	And did you say, hey, cool, man, that you tried to hide your Google results for your donation.
	That was awesome.
	Come on, John.
	I gave him a No Agenda Show card because he's never heard the show.
	Right.
	Oh, well, hold on a second.
	Hey there!
	In the morning!
	How you doing, Eric?
	He might be listening.
	He might, he might.
	And another aside, we're mentioning the show card, which I have a bunch, I give them to cops now.
	And so I'm sitting at a little cafe, a Dean and DeLuca cafe here in Manhattan where my wife's getting a cappuccino.
	Luckily she was at the time.
	And this very attractive 20-something girl comes up and she's kind of sheepishly walks up and she stands there and she says, are you John C. Dvorak?
	Really?
	And I said, yeah.
	She She says, in the morning.
	No, really?
	And she was hot.
	My daughter was there.
	She can testify absolutely.
	And she was hot?
	She was very, yeah, she was hot.
	Oh, what was her name?
	I don't know.
	I didn't get it.
	I was stunned.
	Like, near a heart attack.
	Like, oh my God.
	So I gave her my show agenda cards.
	Yeah, look what the show was doing for me.
	And she'd say, hey, come on my lap and let me tell you a story.
	I was just stunned that someone would, instead of saying hi, it was like in the morning.
	That's great.
	Fantastic.
	That's my ribald tales of the day.
	Okay, Dale Thornton in Sydney, Australia is in for $292.
	He's a co-exec?
	Oh, he's a 292 club member, right on.
	Yeah, and associate executive producer.
	Oh, wow.
	Hi, John and Adam.
	Today I joined the 292 Club to make my first down payment on the knighthood with a 292 donation.
	You guys are down.
	You're my number one source of news and help me see through the lies.
	The lies, I say.
	Dished up by the lamestream media.
	We'd greatly appreciate it if you could mention my iPhone app, Rogue Agent.
	It gives you a renegade spy's view of the world, allowing you to overlay explosions, rifle scopes, and night vision goggles over at the top of your everyday happy snaps.
	I actually got it.
	It's hilarious.
	I got to show it on the Big App Show.
	It's exactly, hey, your happy snap, as seen through a sniper scope.
	It's really, here's your baby, as seen through night vision goggles.
	It's funny.
	Yeah, it is.
	Anyway, he's got some crackpot image overlays, too, which allow Adam to see UFOs in the sky.
	And he's also donating because he thought you were in a funk and he needed to do something about it.
	RogueAgentApp.com.
	That's R-O-G-U-E AgentApp.com.
	And that's anybody who's got a sick sense of humor will enjoy something like that.
	And finally, Philip...
	Fotenhauer.
	Fotenhauer.
	Gotta be Fotenhauer in Tampa.
	Tampa, Florida.
	John and Adam have been listening to this show for two weeks.
	Only two weeks, but had to donate.
	Best show on the net.
	You guys are hilarious.
	Please accept the payment of 220-222 toward my future knighthood and hit me with a de-douche.
	Absolutely, my friend.
	You've been de-douched.
	Right on.
	And that's it.
	And that will wrap up our executive and associate executive producers for this show.
	I want to thank everybody who contributed, especially the executive producers today.
	And as you know, these are official, real credits.
	It's no more or less.
	Actually, it's a little bit more, I think, than the Hollywood credits you see on TV shows or here on our national treasures.
	You can put them on your business cards, in your email signatures, on your IMDB, and unlike those phonies in Hollywood, we will absolutely vouch for you.
	Remember, one place to help us out...
	Just a couple of PR mentions.
	The Bullshit Filter now has a new Safari extension, thanks to Computer Matt, Matt S., Computer Matt in the chat room.
	Links in the show notes, noagendershow.com or seanhannity.com.
	Crackpotcommand.com slash bullshitfilter.
	That essentially turns all your browsing pleasure into no-agenda delight.
	Just as an example, Janet Napolitano's name will show up as Lucy Napolitano.
	It just tickles you all the time.
	Because we actually give them the names they really should be having.
	They should have these names.
	Because they come out of our mouth, obviously that's what you should have.
	Yeah, they're fitting.
	They're very fitting.
	Fitting, that's the word.
	And evolvingthreats.com now also forwarded to noagendashow.com.
	And I want to ask people to start thinking about forwarding domain names to our No Agenda News Network.
	Noagendanewsnetwork.com.
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	That's why I always cut it off there.
	Oh, yeah.
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	But he says that WTC7 is a personal pet peeve of his.
	Yeah, well, and rightly so.
	I'm down with you, my brother.
	Hell yeah, we're coming up on the 10th anniversary.
	Okay.
	10th anniversary.
	Yes, onward indeed.
	So, bad news.
	You've got no clips.
	Yeah, my clip machine fell apart and I didn't get any clips, so I'm out of clips.
	I don't have any clips.
	I wish I was one of these hotels, which is really distressing, because you'll see a clip go by, but they haven't put DVRs in the rooms yet, right?
	Right, right.
	Because you've got to stop it and go back and clip it.
	Well, luckily...
	Luckily, I have some longer clips, and some of them I think will be quite interesting to listen to.
	This first one that I actually wanted to roll out, let's just stick with, what is the news of the day again?
	Oh yes, Charlie Sheen's concert tour sucks.
	Yeah, that's the main news.
	Huh.
	Yeah, oh yeah, people are booing him for his concerts.
	That's terrible.
	Duh.
	You're returning the money?
	Duh.
	Yeah, duh.
	But Russia today is really on a rampage.
	They are so out to discredit everybody and everything about this war.
	Of course, Russia and China, both on the Security Council of the United Nations, are uberlords, who we are now the bitches of.
	They abstain from voting on this whole Libya business.
	And, you know, the propaganda war is on.
	But very interesting, this reporter Susan Lindauer, she reports, she's in Washington, but I guess up until 2003, she was actually, Libya was her beat.
	Well, can we stop for a second?
	I want to just give everybody a little piece of background, which is that if you recall when this Libya thing was first breaking, in fact, even the Egypt, all the stuff breaking in the Middle East, the Russia Today and the blogs and the Russians that are in the Middle East, we were reporting on this, on this show.
	They were saying there was nothing going on.
	Yeah.
	No, of course.
	I mean, all of it's propaganda.
	All of it.
	The only thing that kind of might have some validity is here.
	Just a little bit.
	Who knows?
	We get duped all the time.
	But this woman comes out and so she followed Libya.
	It was her beat.
	And I think she might...
	Once in a while she slips into a kind of an accent.
	It sounds like she's even a Russian spy.
	But she lays into the whole reason behind this and completely pulls out the Lockerbie thing, which I thought was fantastic.
	And she has a lot of details that I think we should listen to.
	Without having thought it through, as you say...
	That was sincere, right?
	She's like, you've got to be nuts.
	Let me tell you the real story, douche.
	It's very badly done.
	I will tell you that because of my knowledge of the Lockerbie issue, last summer we began to hear some very interesting gossip about Gaddafi.
	I love how they keep throwing guns in all these reports.
	Whenever we're talking about Libya, you just have guns rattling in the background.
	It's getting a little annoying.
	Yeah, it's very annoying.
	It's a distraction of some sort.
	It's obviously trying to trigger a, you know, when you're listening to something and watching or hearing gunfire, it's going to change the way your brain works.
	Yeah, you think?
	Just a little?
	But it really comes apparent when you don't watch the video.
	Alright, so let's continue.
	...that Gaddafi was pressuring U.S. and possibly British oil companies, and it may also extend to French and Italian oil companies, alright?
	And Gaddafi was pressuring U.S. oil companies to reimburse Libya for the payments to the families of Panem 103.
	You see, there is this very important detail that Libya had nothing to do with Lockerbie.
	Hello, important detail.
	Just a little detail.
	They had nothing to do with it.
	How many years have we been talking about that possibility?
	Since the beginning of the show.
	And the whole McGrawy thing and everything.
	It makes a lot of sense what she's saying if you think back in time where this guy had to let him free.
	Oh yeah, it's because he has cancer or whatever.
	The guy's still jumping around on his pogo stick.
	Who knows what's going on with him?
	He's not dead as far as we know.
	And listen to the details she has about how much money Libya had to pay to the victims of Lockerbie, or the families of the victims of Lockerbie.
	And the United Nations had imposed sanctions on Libya and forced Libya to pay damages to the families, $2.7 billion.
	And they had wrecked Libya's economy with sanctions.
	And now, last summer, we began to hear that Gaddafi was pushing the oil companies for reimbursements of the costs to the Libyans.
	So you're saying that's what triggers this now, are you?
	Yeah.
	Yes.
	By the way, this guy starts cutting her off like she's getting too cracked.
	She's off the reservation.
	Off the reservation, yeah.
	Yes, I do believe that.
	It's very significant, I believe, that in October...
	Do you hear that?
	It sounds like a Russian.
	I believe.
	She sounded like a Russian earlier.
	Chevron and Occidental Petroleum pulled out of Libya.
	Okay?
	Now, Italy, France, Britain, and China, Germany, all those countries are still in Libya.
	Okay, those countries are still there.
	But the United States pulled out.
	And I believe that at that point, the United States began to think that they needed to do something to remove Gaddafi because he was going to continue to demand behind the scenes, he was going to demand that Libya receive compensation for the sanctions that they suffered wrongfully for 12 years.
	So the way I see this, and of course we've looked at a lot of these angles, so our belief from the evidence that we have or the documentation is that it was a CIA flight, there was drugs on board, a CIA team.
	A Lockerbie.
	Yeah, Lockerbie.
	And they had to cover this up, and there's more going on in Lockerbie.
	There's all kinds of pedo-bear stuff involved with this as well, but I'll just put that to the side.
	Okay.
	The CIA had to cover this up, so they blame Libya, blame Gaddafi and his henchmen, and of course the whole world goes crazy about it.
	Oh, this is nuts, so he's got to pay this money back, and this is not sitting pretty with Gaddafi, and so maybe this is just a Gaddafi-CIA war, which makes sense now that we have CIA boots on the ground.
	Well, obviously, if we're going to stick with that theory, which I think is the right one, and anyone who wants to verify or look at this in more detail, go back into newspaper archives.
	For all the papers in the UK from the crash itself for about a year and a half, those papers explored this situation and came up with most of the real facts that were covered up, and then they explored the cover-up, and then the whole thing became a joke.
	And the way I see it, they blamed it on Gaddafi because he was already involved with terrorism and they wanted to get him off the terrorist track anyway.
	And he was the guy like, you know, he's not going to be kicked out of power or anything for this.
	And it was just, I think the whole thing was just a, okay, here's what we're going to do.
	And they set up a scenario saying, we're going to blame you, but don't worry about it.
	You're going to be protected from it, you know, after, you know, whatever.
	It's exactly what they said to Milosevic.
	Don't worry, man.
	We got your back.
	Don't worry about it.
	Well, anyway, yeah.
	And then, meanwhile, they probably packaged up the real evidence, which is what they were going to present when this guy was going to get a retrial in Scotland, because they were going to retry him, and then they were going to bring all this information, and it was going to blow the lid off the thing.
	They said, no, no, no, he's got cancer, let's get him out of here, and we won't have a trial.
	Right.
	I mean, the fact that they rushed him out of there...
	Out of the blue.
	And he obviously didn't have cancer because he's still alive, at least life-threatening.
	And so the whole thing is just this fishy from the get-go.
	And if people don't see it that way, I think this woman...
	Let's face it, there's a lot of people that know what really happened.
	And we don't.
	We just deconstructed it.
	It's very sketchy.
	It's very fishy.
	But what I do like is that, even based upon what some would call far-fetched theories, which I think there's enough that we're playing and showing and reading that we can point to, it gives me hope that there are actual good people around and that not everyone is always on board with all the program.
	It really isn't like the Bilderberg Club has all sat down and said, let's do this, yo.
	You know, because clearly the UN got duped into all of this, where it was essentially a CIA operation that had gone wrong.
	And it seems like there's a lot of confusion.
	Like, not everyone's on board with the same program.
	You know what I mean?
	Yeah, and then more recently, I still think it's because Libya, and I'll stick with this, has gotten in bed with the Chinese and the Russians for oil.
	China mainly.
	We built a refinery which was somehow attacked for some unknown reason during this so-called skirmish.
	I'm sorry, the Chinese refinery blew up.
	So, I mean, the whole thing is this is a setup.
	But, you know, it is what it is.
	I mean, we've kind of bailed out.
	I don't understand the conservative mentality about this, by the way.
	Oh, we have to take the leadership role.
	Because if anybody else does anything in the world and we're not the leaders, then we're diminished in the eyes of the world community and it's going to be bad.
	People are going to think Obama's a weenie and we're going to get bombed.
	Yeah.
	I mean, they're going to get nuked from the fact that we – I would look at it from a more positive perspective saying, look, we got this thing where we want it.
	We sucker the NATO people and a Canadian to take it over and we get out of it because we've got enough troubles of our own.
	Is that not a good thing?
	I don't get where we have to – oh, we have to be the – I think you're missing – I think you're missing one critical point, is that the military-industrial complex is kicked into gear, and they're like, hell yeah!
	Yeah, buy some of my shite!
	And I think that's the big problem, is they're just seeing more money, more money, more money.
	And they've got so many of Congress in there.
	Yeah, well of course, it's their bread and butter.
	So they love that.
	We need more terror.
	We need more wars.
	What does it cost now?
	Like $500 million a week?
	$300 million a week.
	The Libya conflict.
	The last I heard.
	So there was more funny stuff in the media, and this was amazing.
	On CNN, they try to do the Fox thing where they get the hot women, but they get the really, really, really dumb brunettes.
	I mean, seriously.
	And you have to see the video of these two.
	And I don't want to sound...
	I'm not unfriendly towards women at all.
	But in fact, this is so...
	Feminists should be outraged that women are being abused in this manner as symbols just to distract you to not hear what's actually happening.
	But they all pertain to be incredibly intelligent.
	And this one girl, there's two, and they're co-hosting this interview with a former CIA guy.
	I'm going to skip the whole first half.
	He starts off with the program, and it's all about boots on the ground.
	And then he turns on them.
	And he turns big time.
	And they don't know what to do.
	And one of them has this really yellow...
	Summery, frocky shirt on, sleeveless, you know, with frilly laces and everything.
	And the smoke is coming out of their ears because they can't figure it out.
	And listen to how they try and shut the guy up.
	I'll give you a little bit of his as he goes.
	He also went off the rails.
	And this is happening more and more.
	Of course, they had all of their top anchors in Japan.
	So we don't know where to put the people who can actually put a sentence together.
	So it's fun watching television because everyone's an idiot.
	There was a U.N. resolution and that didn't work.
	Aerial bombing has continued and has impact, but it hasn't defeated him.
	Now we're at the stage where we're going to apparently try to train and arm the resistance.
	That takes a long time.
	I don't know if we have that time against Gaddafi.
	What we're seeing is the President putting himself into a corner where his only option is ground troops.
	But that's something that no one says they want to do in this administration.
	I mean, they simply don't want to do that.
	Well, the choice may come down to admitting that it was a mistake and being defeated, in the sense that Qaddafi survives, or putting ground troops in.
	Nations are a lot like people.
	They don't like admitting to mistakes.
	And maybe they don't want to put them in, but when it comes down to looking defeat in the face, I wonder.
	You know, you led CCA's unit at the Tract of Osama bin Laden in 1996 to 1999, and you believe that much like that situation, America's involvement in Libya could prove to be a recruiting tool for extremists.
	Why?
	Oh, it's absolutely a recruiting tool.
	It's the American-led West attacking a Muslim country that has oil.
	But they've been very careful to say it's not the American-led West, that NATO has now fully taken over the operations.
	Yes, our firepower was used in the beginning, but that this is a coalition that includes Arabs.
	I love how she's read the report.
	She's really reading from a script.
	There's a guy who can barely type as fast as he has to so she can read it.
	That may fool some Americans.
	It's not going to fool the people who sympathize with Bin Laden and other Islamists.
	This is really a U.S.-led operation.
	And you talk about the Arab states that are involved.
	The Arab states are tyrannies that are hated by their own people.
	This is a piece of theater set up by Mrs.
	Clinton and Mr.
	McCain and the bipartisan...
	Whoops!
	Whoops!
	Oh, my God!
	What?
	Theater?
	What?
	You can't say that about Lucifer Clinton!
	No, no, no!
	...group that loves to intervene abroad.
	In the Muslim world, this is Americans killing Muslims again, and it looks like it's for oil.
	I just want to ask, are you trying to have it both ways in saying that, okay, these are tyrannies that hate their own people?
	Well, that's why we're helping, because in Libya, it was the people that wanted Gaddafi out, that they were tired of it.
	So weren't we then supporting Islamic democracy, I guess you could say, in these countries where they're tired of totalitarian rule?
	If we were supporting Islamic democracy, that would be one thing.
	But if you listen to Mrs.
	Clinton, and especially the rather crazed Ms.
	Rice at the UN, this is all about democracy in a world where democracy is not going to take hold.
	Wait, I can just hear the guy in the IFB. Get him off!
	Get him off!
	Shut up!
	Shut up!
	I think it's very clear, Michael Scheuer, that you are no fan of this policy and this administration.
	I think calling Ambassador Rice crazed is certainly a significant charge.
	I don't know, I've just listened to it.
	A charge?
	A charge?
	A charge, really?
	It's not a charge.
	It's just a valid observation.
	That's only my impression.
	And I have to say, this is not a Democratic problem.
	This is a Republican problem, too.
	Both parties love to intervene in other people's business where there are no U.S. interests at stake and where we spend enormous amounts of money at a time when we're nearly bankrupt.
	That doesn't seem to me to be a wise practice of American statesmanship.
	And that's a whole other story.
	To call the United States bankrupt, the United States is running humongous deficits, yes, but the economy and this mission in Libya are two separate issues.
	They're not separate issues, ma'am.
	You're just carrying the water for Mr.
	Obama.
	I'm certainly not carrying anyone's water.
	I have a water head, but I'm not carrying anyone's water!
	I will assure you of that.
	Michael Scheuer, thank you so much for your time.
	You know, we've had a very long, exhaustive interview.
	You had plenty of time to give your point of view on that.
	We're going to be right back.
	It's 38 minutes.
	Thanks, Michael.
	Idiots.
	She's She's terrible.
	Unbelievable.
	Well, this Scheuer guy's been around for a while.
	He's baffled me.
	He first showed up.
	He's on almost every documentary done about 9-11, and he's almost on everything done about Osama.
	And he was the CIA... He was a part of some group called the Terrorists or Osama Bin Laden Division or some horse crap and supposedly retired.
	And I've always wondered whether or not he's still working for them in some way, shape or form because he tends to be...
	He's a very yes sir, no sir kind of overly, you know, with two little, you know, two complimentary people being interviewed, yes sir, no sir, he's saying.
	And he is, he's baffled me.
	He's done a couple of books, or one at least, about how we could have gotten Osama and we didn't, and all the rest of it.
	And he comes on a lot of these shows, and I guess you can figure out now what side he's on with.
	Yeah.
	Is that the CIA's position?
	I don't know.
	I did find out something that is really important when it comes to the lies.
	So what is...
	Okay, forget all the breaking the Constitution, etc.
	What is being heralded by Lucifer Clinton and by George W. Obama?
	And what's Rice's name?
	Uh...
	Well, it's funny her name is Rice, because you want to say Condoleezza II. Yeah, you do want to say Condoleezza II, but that's not correct.
	They say Condoleezza II, you could say, I don't know what to call her.
	Beelzebub Rice.
	All right.
	They call her Rice.
	Rice.
	All right, Rice.
	So they're all saying, well, you know, the Arab League, the Arab League, they came to us, they begged the Arab League, the Arab League.
	Well, let me give you some details on the Arab League.
	There's 22 full members of the Arab League.
	When they took this vote for the no-fly zone, only 11 were present, which is not even a quorum.
	And apparently, Syria and Algeria were against it, so they probably were coerced.
	But if you look at it, really only 9 members of the Arab League wanted this.
	The others weren't even there.
	They probably didn't even get the memo.
	They weren't invited.
	And that's Asia Times reporting that.
	Of course you can't get that here.
	Who were the nine that voted yes?
	Probably can't.
	Well, six of them were Gulf Corporation Council members.
	If you have a second, I can probably bring this up.
	Let's see.
	Asia Times...
	Yeah, but this is good stuff, you know?
	And where's our reporting on this?
	I have to get this from Asia Times, really?
	I'm not carrying any water for Obama.
	I'm not carrying nobody's water.
	I don't care water!
	You gotta clip that out and use it once in a while.
	It's hilarious.
	I'm not carrying Obama's water.
	I won't do that.
	I'm not even starting with that.
	Let me see if we have...
	No, I don't have the...
	It's not in this report.
	It might be, but I can't read the whole thing.
	We're going to put it on the next show.
	Because it would be interesting to know who the nine were.
	Who didn't show up.
	Those are the ones that are the...
	The whole thing is...
	Yeah, it's terrible.
	It's rigged.
	You think?
	What I also thought was really interesting, which does kind of go along with this.
	So how much money did we steal, I mean, sorry, freeze from Libya and Gaddafi?
	How much money was it, John?
	The all-time record, $33 billion.
	Which, of course, is a magic number for us.
	But now, what's so interesting is, we come up with this settlement now.
	You know, we also have a budget gap we have to close in the United States.
	And Joe Biden comes out and says, you know, I've been talking to Billy Boy Boehner.
	And, you know, we've come up with a number, $33 billion in cuts.
	I'm like, hey.
	Coincidence?
	I think not!
	You think they're just going to take that $33 billion and fill the hole?
	Why not?
	Apparently, Congress has got no control over the purse strings anymore, and it's all a game of a house of cards right now with the Federal Reserve, like you pointed out earlier.
	This is just a complete fiasco.
	The way the money's being, it's like a bunch of crooked bookkeepers running the country.
	And there's so much more fun stuff coming out.
	I noticed it, but we forgot to talk about it.
	The President's speech when he addressed the nation is very important, because everyone needs to know.
	It came on at 7.30, which is not the typical prime time slot for a presidential address to the nation.
	And CNN now reports that he actually had a conversation with the networks, because you have to negotiate that with the networks, obviously.
	And this was, ABC has Dancing with the Stars on at 8 o'clock, and so that's why the president went to 7.30.
	Oh, ABC, right, the compromised ABC network, yeah.
	The ex-White House guy working there.
	No, his sister.
	His sister is George W. Obama's personal advisor.
	So I just thought this was interesting.
	You know, that's how important it is.
	Oh, well, we have to keep the slaves entertained, happy and distracted with Dancing with the Stars, so why don't we just do it at 7.30?
	That'll be fine.
	Huh.
	Okay.
	More depressing news.
	It's not depressing.
	I'm beyond that now.
	Now I think it's just funny.
	But we're in for a long haul, that's for sure.
	This guy's not going anywhere.
	Everyone's jumping for joy.
	We're all getting some money.
	It's all beautiful.
	So, I got an interesting email from someone.
	See if I can find it.
	But it's based on a...
	He claims the bogus story running in the sun, April 3rd.
	Of all places.
	Did I send you a link to this so it could be in the show notes?
	Yes, you did.
	It wasn't under a...
	Yeah, it'll be in the show notes.
	Yeah, I have it.
	Okay, let me, I hate to do this, but just with this little machine I'm ending up with.
	What kind of machine are you using there?
	It's a little Toshiba, but it's only got like a, the screen size is only...
	10 inches?
	That's about 10 or 11.
	And the sound's not all that great either.
	I think it's probably the connection.
	John and Adam, I just wanted to say thanks for a great show.
	He lives outside Tokyo and was in central Tokyo at work during the earthquakes a few weeks back.
	And unlike some of the other foreigners, Gaijin.
	Yes, the Gaijin, which by the way are now being called the Flyjin.
	The Flyjin.
	Because they're flying away.
	He mentions that.
	This guy's a Brit.
	He says, the most obvious and insulting piece of journalism came from UK Sun newspaper.
	We're not expecting as much as it is, but it's obviously link bait, and we have a link to this article in the show notes.
	And it's quite funny, especially the big headline.
	The headline which says, it's got a picture of a frightened woman saying, starving Brit Kelly, my nightmare, trapped in city of ghosts, Tokyo.
	Right.
	It goes on, there's zombies and there's no water and she's starving to death, this woman.
	He says the whole thing's a bunch of crap.
	He says the contradictions, factual errors.
	Firstly, her name and her husband's, Fujiyama.
	Fujiyama is so stereotypical, suspicious in itself.
	Her husband is Ryu, which is, as a friend of mine pointed out, probably taken from a street fighter game.
	Right.
	I love it.
	I love it.
	any amount.
	It says it was bullshit.
	And it says for that, for the week, Rome had higher ratings than Tokyo.
	Right.
	She claims she's a scene The streets were quiet, but she's not out of panic.
	People were waiting for what would happen next.
	There's food in the shops on the next day.
	She reported this, although bottled water was getting low, but the mains watered gas and electricity were on.
	Most of Tokyo was never blacked out.
	As a friend pointed out, why didn't she order Domino's?
	They were still delivering.
	It was Sir Mark, I think, and Dame Astrid were saying, you know, the biggest problem, and by the way, not to diminish, there was a lot of, you know, absolute panic and people were confused, but in Tokyo itself, you know, he says, I think Sir Mark wrote me a note and said, you know, the biggest problem, everyone's, you know, the biggest fear is we didn't have the right change for Starbucks.
	You know, it's like, okay.
	Anyway, it goes on and on, which just indicates to me that the reporting on this thing has been, you know, which we've always suspected, has been a bit sensationalized.
	Even though it's a disaster of epic proportions, it's just no reason.
	I would ask this question, you know, what is the point of making it seem worse?
	To distract everyone from the true atrocity which is going on in Libya, amongst other places.
	Yeah, I'm guessing that's the problem.
	I mean, I have no other, no, I just don't have any other explanation.
	It seems like the easiest thing to do, you know, that's one call, right?
	Well, that's actually three calls.
	There's a call to ABC, it's a call to CNN, it's a call to Fox.
	You know, it's like, hey man, let's hype this up.
	And then it just goes down the chain.
	We've both worked at media companies.
	That's how it goes.
	We're off to Japan!
	This is what it is.
	And it all plays into each other.
	You get the anti-nuke people.
	Germany is freaking out.
	They have huge anti-nuclear demonstrations now.
	The public gets riled up.
	By the way, I want to thank Graham Briggs for the note and link.
	Yeah, no, it's ridiculous.
	There's something else very interesting happening with news now.
	And this is from Gitmo Nation Down Under.
	Jeff from Newcastle sent this in.
	Adam, I heard his report last week on ABC Radio.
	That's the Australian Broadcasting Corporation.
	World Today Current Affairs Program.
	Interview with Ali...
	I looked the guy up...
	Al-Mujahid of the Yemen Post regarding the Yemen instability.
	And he says, have a listen to this and tell...
	I'm not going to give it away, John.
	It's 35 seconds.
	So this is apparently a reporter in Yemen being interviewed by Australian radio.
	Tell me what you think of this guy.
	Ali Al-Mujahid, can Yemen's president survive now that one of his most senior generals, Ali Mossansali, has defected?
	After the announcement that the military has made, it seems very likely that the President will have to step down very, very soon.
	And I expect that to be within the next 48 hours.
	The only thing that we could say is, basically, the President right now is probably trying to figure out the best strategy for his exit.
	And that's why he sent the Minister of Foreign Affairs to Saudi Arabia Now I don't know if you can hear that on Skype, but that is not a guy.
	That is a computer voice synthesizer.
	It's possible.
	Now with that in mind, can you play it again?
	Ali Al-Mujahid, can Yemen's president survive now that one of his most senior generals, Ali Mossansali, has defected?
	After the announcement that the military has made, it seems very likely that the President will have to step down very, very soon.
	And I expect that to be within the next 48 hours.
	The only thing that we could say is, basically, the President right now is probably trying to figure out the best strategy for his exit.
	And that's why he sent the Minister of Foreign Affairs to Saudi Arabia to negotiate some kind of deal for him to be able to leave the country.
	The chat room got it right away.
	They're like, that's Doug.
	Doug is taking over.
	Doug is doing interviews.
	That's amazing.
	Especially when he says hours.
	Now, I've listened to enough of these synthesized speech things that, I mean, you just recognize it.
	I mean, the chat room saw it immediately.
	It's digital voice.
	You can make that come out of your Mac.
	Wow.
	Yeah.
	That's really bad if that's true.
	What?
	That's really bad.
	Excuse me.
	I'm dying here.
	That's really bad if that's true.
	Let me see.
	Yeah, I can do this.
	Hello, John.
	I can do it immediately.
	It's so easy.
	Yeah.
	We should take that whole speech.
	Somebody should take it.
	And run it through some speech synthesizers.
	Write it down.
	Write it down and change the wording just so it sounds right.
	And run it through various speech synthesizers and see what we come up with.
	That's very interesting.
	How is New York?
	It's not possible.
	I think it's, well, anyway.
	I think a very good observation there from Jeff.
	Hey, there was something else.
	Oh boy, this is...
	I've got to delve into this for a second.
	What do I always do on Sundays, John?
	You watch C-SPAN. No, no, no, no, no.
	I always watch our president's reality show.
	Oh, right, that stupid thing you keep watching.
	The West Wing Week, yeah, which was...
	The title of it this week was Under the Blue Whale.
	Under the Big Blue Whale.
	And there was nothing in it, nothing to get.
	But I do have a minute here from our President George W. Obama's address to the nation.
	And it's all about the Clean Energy Partnership.
	Hello, everybody.
	Hello, everybody!
	I love that.
	Hello, everybody.
	He's at UPS. Sounds like Elvis.
	He is.
	Hello, everybody.
	Hello, everybody.
	I'll be here all week here on UPS. So he's at a UPS distribution plant center.
	And he's on location with his little show.
	Hello, everybody.
	Hello, everybody.
	I'm speaking to you today from a UPS customer center in Landover, Maryland.
	Yee-haw!
	Where I came to talk about an issue that's affecting families and businesses just like this one.
	The hookers be too expensive.
	The rising price of gas.
	And what we can do as a country to reduce our dependence on foreign oil.
	Ah, there it is again.
	Now it's the dependence on foreign oil.
	So you know there's a scam coming.
	You know, you can already feel it.
	So I'm ready and waiting for it.
	This week, I released a blueprint.
	John, did you see the blueprint?
	No, I didn't.
	But can I ask you a quick question and ask Adam, see if you can get it?
	An actual...
	But it's in the middle of the presidential address.
	I mean, that's...
	Well, let me just ask you then.
	Hold on a second.
	Hold on.
	All right.
	Ask Adam.
	What percentage, expressed as a fraction, do we import oil-wise?
	How much do we have local?
	How much do we pump ourselves and how much do we import?
	I would say we import 30%.
	Oh, that's interesting.
	Is that wrong?
	No, we import two-thirds.
	60%.
	Okay.
	66.66.
	Well, I was prepared to be surprised.
	All right, go.
	All right.
	For a secure energy future.
	Ooh, secure.
	It's a strategy to reduce the oil we import from around the world and to make our economy stronger at home.
	Yeah, we've got to screw those Canadians.
	Hey, Canadia, we're not taking your oil no more.
	And I'm here at UPS because it's not just the government getting in on the action.
	I love the way he says this.
	It's like, just put it in my face.
	Hey, it's not just the government getting in on the action.
	Words matter, people.
	It's believable that he'd say that.
	He's actually saying it.
	It's not just, we're getting in on the action.
	No, not just that.
	...getting in on the action.
	Companies like UPS, FedEx, AT&T, Verizon, and PepsiCo.
	Where's no agenda?
	What's PepsiCo got to do with anything?
	No, listen up!
	Firms with some of the largest fleets in the country.
	They got large fleets.
	Fleets.
	The fleets.
	That's what it's about.
	They got big fleets.
	PepsiCo has zero fleets, by the way.
	The bottlers are all local.
	So that's a lie.
	Are switching to more efficient vehicles.
	And through our Clean Fleets Partnership, driven not by government, but by business.
	Okay, now, you've got to listen to this stuff.
	Our Clean Fleets Partnership, driven not by government, but by businesses, which does not mean government's not in it, not just in it.
	It may be driven by business, which is usually not a good thing.
	More companies are going to be switching to electric and alternative vehicles, too.
	Not out of the goodness of their hearts.
	No, no.
	So, is that a clue?
	Not out of the goodness of their hearts.
	Well, do you think it's because they want to spend more on fleets?
	There must be some kind of trick.
	Because it's good for their bottom line.
	Yeah, it's good for their bottom line.
	All right, so...
	Okay.
	What?
	No, no, go on, go on.
	You're right.
	This guy's giving it all away in his speeches nowadays.
	Yeah, I mean, I don't know who's writing it, but they're idiots.
	Okay, so...
	Anyway, so I go look, Department of Energy, and so the first thing we've got to do is we've got to go look at the blueprint.
	And so I get the fact sheet, National Clean Fleets Partnership.
	Okay.
	What are the benefits?
	And then down there somewhere at the bottom, there's a little note here about the Vehicles Technology Program.
	Oh, okay.
	So let's take a look at the Vehicles Technology Program.
	Okay.
	Prepared by the National Renewable Energy Laboratory, N-R-E-L, which is a national laboratory of the U.S. Department of Energy.
	You've got to follow the stream all the way through.
	And down at the bottom of that page, it says it is operated by the Alliance for Sustainable Energy, LLC. Oh, really?
	So this is part of the non-governmental part.
	So we go to the Alliance for Sustainable Energy LLC website.
	Under the current U.S. Department of Energy contract, Alliance for Sustainable Energy LLC, known as Alliance, manages and operates the NREL. Okay, so they're operating a.gov business.
	Alliance is a limited liability company, of course, in case anyone gets sued, which is equally owned and governed by Battelle and MRI Global.
	The contract is valued at approximately $1.1 billion, subject to annual appropriations over a five-year period.
	How come we don't get in on any of these deals?
	Because we don't have a fleet.
	We need us some fleets.
	So then you've got to go look at all this stuff.
	And MRI Global?
	Oh, my God!
	I have a...
	Let me see...
	MRI Global, who just got a new CEO, by the way, in January, a guy who's been in cleanup businesses for nuclear for 28 years of his career, total shill, total setup, completely ready.
	So this is the company that is contracted.
	Now, they are a non-profit.
	Doesn't mean that they don't make profit, but it's a non-profit.
	But you look at the board, you're like, oh, brother.
	Every single douchebag is in there from all the companies.
	But listen to a bit of this MRI Global promo reel, which is on their homepage.
	Yay!
	We're saving the universe!
	We're awesome!
	Listen to my pre-canned music!
	Woo-hoo!
	Today, we celebrate.
	We celebrate our legacy, our heritage, and at the same time, we define our future.
	They just changed their name, by the way, to MRI. There's a new rebranding.
	Everything fits in properly with this announcement.
	Look around us.
	Look at our shared community.
	Oh, what do you do in your shared community?
	We're proud of the contributions of those who have gone before us, whose knowledge, experience, dedication, and commitment have created the abundant successes of our many decades of service.
	We're humbled by the character and integrity that built our core foundation and yet challenges us to live up to ideals more noble and more rewarding than just monetary gain.
	I mean, than just monetary gain.
	So, John, this must be the nicest, bestest, just awesomest organization.
	They must be nothing but planting flowers and trees and making things beautiful for the world.
	I mean, that's what it sounds like, doesn't it?
	Oh yeah.
	Okay.
	We are world-class scientists, engineers, program managers.
	We're the leading chemists, biologists, analysts, statisticians.
	All the geniuses are here!
	We are heralded as problem solvers, innovators.
	I never heard of them.
	What?
	Well, hold on.
	You have, you just don't know it.
	They were under a different name.
	Hold on.
	Customers and partners call on us to focus on and take on some of the most difficult issues facing our planet.
	We address energy challenges by delivering renewable energy from algae, biomass, wind, solar and other sources.
	We envision a bright future by preventing and treating diseases by supporting vaccine development.
	Okay, so they do renewable algae bullcrap energy.
	They do vaccines.
	What else?
	Development.
	And by analyzing the safety and toxicity of drugs to treat cancer and AIDS We protect our troops by designing technology with highly accurate detection of dangerous weapons and explosives Yeah, okay.
	And by engineering robots for defense.
	Robots for defense!
	Using humanoid robots to safeguard troops from chemical and biological weapons.
	I've got to stop it here.
	It just gets worse.
	Wait a minute.
	Where are these humanoid...
	What is this, a movie trailer?
	Yeah, exactly.
	The humanoid robots are...
	They got used to the video.
	They got humanoid robots and there's a guy standing on the sidelines and hits the robot and he doesn't fall over.
	This is billions of dollars being wasted on scientist jabronis and with a whole board filled with just former corporate shills.
	Lay out who they are.
	Do you really need to know?
	Well, let's start with this...
	David A. Brockman, who is now the chief energy advisor.
	And you can't even find this guy's bio anywhere, because he must have been doing such evil stuff.
	But 28 years in the private sector, I'm sorry, we can't actually tell you more about what he did.
	Okay.
	So we have CH2M Hill.
	This is Dan Arvizu.
	That's a huge $100 million.
	These are just the guys who are working there now.
	He comes from a $100 million company.
	We have Thomas M. Sack, who is running the Chemical Science Division for Chemical Defense.
	I mean, what is this?
	This is...
	And they don't actually do any of this work.
	They dish it out.
	We've got Thomas Fleener, who was VP of Corporate Development at Aquila and at Verizon and Arthur Anderson and Procter& Gamble.
	Then we've got this woman from Oracle.
	We've got this woman who was at U.S. Bank, Bank of America, Commerce Bank.
	She's the Vice President of Corporate Human Resources.
	She looks like a humanoid robot, by the way.
	I've seen this.
	I was just looking at CH2M Hill.
	Yeah.
	And...
	I've seen this.
	There was a thing I was going to do in the last show and I ran into the same exact label from ethosphere.com.
	And I'm just going to ask you a question, a real simple one.
	When you're putting up a website and you feel obliged to put up a big sticker, a giant sticker on the front page that says, this label says, 211 world's most ethical companies.
	Does that mean anything to you if you see something like that?
	Why you'd be so concerned that you'd put this sticker on your site?
	Yeah.
	It's like we're in trouble for some reason.
	We better put an ethical sticker on it.
	A band-aid.
	Alright, go on.
	So anyway, what this is is a huge program, billions of dollars for commercial corporate companies.
	And it's being heralded.
	And right up front, of course, it's all these guys who are going to benefit with huge tax write-offs.
	That's not in the blueprint because the blueprint is like a press release and the real blueprint isn't there yet and the Department of Energy hasn't put all the rules online yet.
	It's just more money bleeding out of our butts.
	Obama's worst and the worst Republican.
	Yeah, he is.
	He's just a pitch man.
	He's just a pitch man.
	Hey, don't worry.
	I'll sell this.
	Watch this.
	Hello, everybody.
	Hey, everybody.
	I know how to sell this, man.
	Don't worry about it.
	All I got to do is I get him from the get-go, from the very minute I'm on my show.
	Hello, everybody.
	Hey, everybody.
	How you doing?
	Hey, everybody.
	So, if you go to this CH2M Hill main site, they're showing all these different...
	They have a slideshow that goes on.
	And one of the slides on the show appears to be an oil rig right off the Houses of Parliament in the middle of the Thames.
	Really?
	Yeah.
	Are they building an oil rig in the middle of the Thames?
	These guys don't give a crap.
	I'm telling you.
	They really don't care.
	They'll do anything they have to.
	There's people with gas masks, and there's a refinery, and this switches to the oil rig in the middle of the Thames, it looks like.
	I mean, this is being half-built.
	And then they're spraying, with a bunch of people standing a million miles away, they're spraying a Qantas airliner with antifreeze, and then they got a picture of Antarctica.
	I don't know.
	I don't get it.
	Well, I do, and all of it is essentially coming out of your pocketbook.
	Money we don't have.
	Maybe part of it's coming from the $33 billion that's been stolen from Libya, but you can guarantee it's not good for you.
	I'm going to show myself gold by donating to No Agenda.
	Imagine all the people who could do that.
	Oh yeah, that'd be fab.
	Yeah, on No Agenda.
	We do have a few donors this week.
	I want to thank them all.
	And we want to thank everybody who donates any amount of money, by the way.
	Every bit helps.
	Let's start with James LaPan, Jr.
	Mesa, Arizona.
	$111.11.
	In the morning, John and Adam, here's my monthly donation during my nighthood.
	This is $111.11 per month.
	Sorry, it's been a week late.
	But my dad passed away two weeks ago.
	Therefore, I had family issues.
	On my trip to Montana, I found out my mom knew all about Monsanto.
	So I started propagating the formula and now I have my brother, brother-in-law and mom turned on to you.
	That's a plus three.
	On my iPod, I've listened to shows all the way back to 243.
	I was wondering if you could talk about the concentration camps around the country.
	You're talking about those FEMA camps.
	I know that we have one in this small town up in the mountain now referred to as a FEMA camp.
	As of now, the city of Gilbert has invited me to participate in an evacuation of anthrax drill on 4211.
	Oh, and wait, let me guess.
	He gets to go to the FEMA camp?
	I don't know.
	I didn't do it.
	Can't make it, but have a buddy ready to give me a full sit rep on the goings-on.
	He'll go and do it.
	He'll report back.
	I have a book you might be interested in for you.
	Book Club is called Arrogance by Bernard Goldberg, which is decent.
	I encourage you to read it, and if you find it, we can add that to the list.
	No Agenda Book Club.
	So thank you very much.
	Let's go down to Ruben Shad in Earlwood, New South Wales, Australia, 6333.
	Could be shade.
	Could be shade.
	Salutation, Sir Dvorak and Curry.
	Great news, I hit my sister Elkie in the mouth recently.
	Hey, hey, hey, come here!
	She's as much a fan of the show as me.
	Donating for the first time as a 22nd birthday present to her and encourage others to give gifts in this fashion.
	She was born on the 5th of April.
	Good year.
	Good day, I mean.
	Same day as John, which should count for some extra super karma.
	Keep those Dugs flying high and proud.
	Yeah, it's hidden to karma right now.
	You've got karma.
	Yeah, she's on the list.
	Double nickels on the dime from Brett Colbert from Brisbane, Australia.
	Cheer up, Adam.
	Couldn't get through the week without you, mate.
	Yeah, right on.
	Down one, hold on.
	Sir Greg Stone is next?
	Yeah, but it's like...
	No, actually, yeah, Sir Greg Stone, shameless plug, he says, for RoryStone.com, R-O-R-Y. RYstone.com.
	Squarespace from Dvorak Plugs.
	Karma always welcomed.
	No.
	Karma always available to you.
	You've got karma.
	The nights get an infinite amount.
	Michael in Beaverton, Oregon.
	John and Adam, this is my first time donating, but in lieu of a dedouching, I'd like a little help for the school marketing project.
	Our project team has chosen to do a project on the beer industry and can use some hardware from the No Agenda audience with a survey about beer.
	Go to noagendabeer.com.
	I can just see the teacher going, noagendabeer.com?
	What is this all about?
	We'd like to end up with a larger than expected sample size and thought this might be a good way to do it.
	I'll forward the domain to the No Agenda site when we're done.
	You know, I think, first of all, I'm going to give you a dedouching regardless because you deserve that.
	You've been dedouched.
	Um...
	But I have a feeling that our audience, there are a lot of beer drinkers in our audience, and they know their beer, by the way.
	Particularly, we've got the guys down under.
	They know a lot about their beer.
	And so we'll get a global audience.
	That's not a bad idea at all.
	And he donated to the show.
	Well, thank you so much.
	That's great.
	I could put that on a, maybe if I, when I get back, depending on what his time frame is, I may put that on the Twitter feed.
	Oh, wow.
	That would be huge.
	That would pick up a thousand people.
	Easy.
	Tanya, or Dame Tanya, Wyman in New York, double nickels on the dime, requesting karma for a friend.
	Chris, a very smart computer tech that recently moved to the Bay Area, needs a job.
	Oh, what a great idea.
	You've got karma.
	Well, I guess if you're in engineering computer stuff, right now there's a lot of hiring going on in the Bay Area.
	That's probably a good place to get a job right now.
	Yeah, it seems so.
	Although the city of New York seems pretty active.
	Auden Dragaset?
	How do you think I should pronounce that?
	Yeah, Dragaset.
	Bergen.
	Jersey!
	Oh, sorry.
	I thought it was Bergen County.
	Bergen, Norway.
	I'm a chemistry student at the University of Bergen.
	Need a shot of karma.
	Hope to get a spot for the Masters in Organic Synthesis and Medical Chemistry.
	You've got karma.
	Good man.
	I was listening to the...
	There's a lot of people wishing you a happy birthday.
	I was listening to the No Agenda Producers Update.
	I got a podcast.
	And they were trying to figure out your age...
	And they figured you're turning 59 on the 5th.
	Is that correct?
	Could be.
	Snorre Steen.
	Snorre Steen.
	Sir Snorre actually.
	Out there in the North Pole.
	Norway.
	Good man.
	Our fearless leader sent F-16s to protect stat oils, the Norwegian oil company's investments in Libya.
	Nice.
	Nice.
	They send the F-16, you mean.
	Can we get that thing started, you think?
	Oh, I think we can if we try hard enough.
	That's your Norwegian?
	You can try starting it.
	My wife's in the back, I think.
	Worst accent ever.
	Really.
	Contact.
	Clear prop.
	Do you need the shotgun shell for this, Nora?
	Yeah, this is really not the right shotgun.
	That's funny.
	That shows both our age that we understand that one.
	Well, it's an old gag.
	You want to explain it to the non-aviators?
	No, no, no.
	Joseph Costello, Pittston, Pennsylvania.
	Well, actually, 5151, the crazy thing.
	This is a special birthday shout-out for my lovely wife, Mary.
	Her birthday is on the 4th.
	She is now as old as I am.
	How does that work?
	Oh, for the next four months.
	Please bestow the gift of karma upon her.
	And she's also on the birthday list, of course.
	You've got karma.
	Adam Schmidt and Christopher Lawton, both $50, no explanation.
	Arnold Reistat, Caldwell, Idaho.
	And he writes, John, hi John and Adam, please give a shout out for my daughter Katie's fourth birthday, which was yesterday, April 2nd, so karma would also be really appreciated.
	Yeah, she's on the list.
	And she needs some karma.
	Oh, I'm sorry.
	Here we go.
	You've got karma.
	James at FreeHallowBooks.com in Summerfield, North Carolina.
	FreeHallowBooks.com.
	Thanks, Jason Petri of Rock Springs.
	Petri.
	Petri as in Petri dish of Rock Springs, Wyoming for supporting the show by purchasing the second No Agenda Free Hollow book.
	People go to FreeHallowBooks.com.
	These things are fantastic.
	I use one to keep all kinds of things.
	Your weed.
	Yeah, right.
	Hey, man, I can't find my book.
	Where's my, honey, wink, wink, where's my book?
	The book's gone.
	The book is gone.
	Sir John Matthews, Hudnersville, North Carolina.
	Great show, guys.
	Best show in the universe.
	The absolute best show anyone does.
	I say that.
	Keep up the great work.
	Please send my wife, Becky, a shot of karma.
	And also, this is karma for freeholobooks.com as requested.
	You've got karma.
	Jordan Wyatt, Invercargill, Southland, New Zealand, which has got to be a great place to visit.
	Adam is absolutely right.
	All U.S. politicians suck except for Dennis Kucin.
	You voted in a guy who cheated on his wife, a moron twice, the black guy, and now a vegan president for 2012.
	Well, first of all, the black guy thing I take offense to, because that's very racist of you to say, but what's the vegan thing?
	I don't know.
	Who's the vegan?
	I don't know any vegan for 2012.
	But I'd like a vilf.
	We could get a vilf.
	That would be cool.
	I'm sure about the black guy.
	I don't know what he's talking about.
	The vegan is actually Dennis Kucinich.
	Oh, is he a vegan?
	Oh, he's not a vil.
	He's not going to win.
	No.
	He's not even running.
	He's running away from people trying to kill him.
	Robin Durden, Hoboken, New Jersey, United, USA, $50, no comment.
	Lee Donaghy from Great Yarmouth, Norfolk, United Kingdom.
	Donation for Adam, doing another DSC, don't leave it again for over a month, dude.
	Well, dude, you know, we've had the giving levels.
	Oops, sorry.
	You've got karma.
	That was premature karmaization.
	Be karma without asking.
	That's right.
	Okay.
	No, everyone's been supporting the show, and that's been really great.
	And I had the new mic I wanted to try, which still needs...
	I need a different stand for it, because it's rummaging around a little bit.
	Can't you just screw it into a boom?
	Yeah, but it's too heavy for the...
	It's a long story.
	We need a counterbalance boom.
	Yeah, yeah, exactly.
	That's what I need, a counterbalance boom, precisely.
	Hey, so that's our list, I guess, right?
	Yeah, and I want to thank everybody who donated in smaller amounts and everybody in between and the executive producers once again.
	And a reminder that unlike your national treasures, the NPR, PBS, or your local state-sponsored media, who probably do take commercials, I know they do in many of the Gitmo Nation Europe countries, even the government programming runs on commercials, partially.
	We don't take that.
	And that's why we can speak freely about all of the douchebaggery that's going on and bring you actual news without any type of agenda.
	And if you'd like to contribute, we would highly appreciate your giving level, whatever that is.
	And remember, you could also go to channeldvorak.com or noagendanation.com and look for that.
	That's a nice site, by the way.
	Eric's done a really nice job on that.
	That's pretty beautiful.
	Yeah, and eventually people will be able to put their businesses on there.
	And I'm still looking for someone to sponsor the RV for the No Edge in the Nation Hot Pockets Across America Tour.
	Surely someone can hook us up with an RV. It doesn't have to be with a huge one.
	I would like the one where the living room poops out of the side.
	But we'll promote whoever can hook us up with that, and it'll be great for the show, and get to meet all the producers, and we'll create a great book of this fantastic Gitmo Nation, and it'll be a lot of fun.
	So we're still looking for that.
	And let's do this for a second here, John.
	All right.
	Ruben Shade or Shada or Shad wishes his sister Elkie a very happy birthday on the same day as my companion and friend Johnson de Boric was born 5th of April.
	She'll be turning 22.
	Very close names there as well.
	Joseph Costello says happy birthday to his wife Mary.
	It's her birthday tomorrow on April 4th.
	And Arnold Reistat's daughter Katie turns...
	For on April 2nd.
	Happy birthday to all of you from your buddies here at the No Agenda Show.
	And we have a night, John.
	So, did you...
	Hang on.
	How'd you get it?
	Yeah, I did.
	I had to ship it separately.
	I was going to say, you couldn't get that past the TSA. It's impossible.
	Stephen van der Havre, or Vanderhaave, or however they pronounce it here in the Gitmo Nation United States.
	Stephen, please step forward.
	We highly appreciate your giving level as you have now completed the $1,000 required for a knighthood, which means a ring will be on its way for you.
	But, of course, we have a spot for you here at the roundtable as we now pronounce the Sir Stephen Funderhava Knight of the Noah John Roundtable.
	Have a seat, my friend.
	Hookers and Blow, Rent-Boys Cabernet, it's all here just for you.
	I love me a good nighting.
	Hello?
	What are you doing?
	You calling room service?
	That was pretty funny.
	What are you doing?
	I didn't come in so loud.
	I was moving my mic stand, which you've seen pictures of, around, and I bumped the phone and it came off the hook.
	Okay.
	I don't know why it would be so noisy.
	You know, again, I'm thinking that there must be people listening to this show, which I'm kind of liking, because all of a sudden I'm seeing the Daily Mail, I'm seeing all kinds of mainstream media picking up on this brainwave scramble thing.
	You know, we've been highlighting and been getting a lot of flack, by the way.
	We say, hey, look, these people are, you know, all of a sudden they talk backwards.
	And then, you know, it's like, oh, man, it's a medical condition.
	No, no, no.
	This is not, this is happening one after another.
	And there's something going on.
	And it turns out this happened to radio host Ian Punnett, or Punnett.
	He's on, I don't know, he's on one of these radio satellite networks.
	And he was on promoting on Coast to Coast AM. And someone sent me a clip, but the same thing happened to him.
	So we now have, this is the, including Judge Judy, which we don't have any audio or video from yet.
	Yeah, I know somebody has to have recorded that from the studio.
	Oh, it's recorded, definitely, and someone's got a copy somewhere.
	If not, they'll be spinning it off and you better be giving it to us.
	So listen to, what's the guy's name, George whatever, from Coast to Coast AM? Yeah.
	George Norrie.
	Norrie, right.
	It's funny because I think that we're not...
	George Norrie?
	No, not George Norrie.
	He has one of the hosts from the network on promoting his show.
	And what I think is we need to pay more attention to this because it's interesting.
	You actually, and I played it as the opening of last week's show, you actually did this At the end of the donation segment last week, and I didn't even hear it.
	I didn't even pick up on it.
	Of course, I was out of my mind.
	But I think a lot of people just aren't hearing how many news readers and television personalities might actually be being brain scrambled.
	Listen to this guy.
	Okay, next hour, we'll take your phone calls with Nick Redfern as we talk about one of Ian Punnett's favorite subjects, cryptozoology.
	Hey, Ian, double duty this weekend, huh?
	Exactly.
	Oh, thank you.
	Were you watching any of the soccer action?
	Yeah, I did in glimpses, but I'm more fascinated with Paul the Octopus.
	Yeah.
	He's picked Spain over the Netherlands, and he's not wrong, so, you know, off we go.
	Well, there was one of those little main surprises when we walk in the house.
	It looked like one great big room, and then you could break it up like that.
	He already talks kind of unintelligible, but this is still normal.
	Here it comes.
	Each one could have its own separate heat, and I think, wow, that's, you know, that's, it's just going to really give it a driveway, and that depends.
	Did he threaten the Hoover?
	You know, did he not put away the dishes?
	And a lot of people keep doing, keep their shirt off.
	There's no reason at all to get it off.
	Exactly.
	He's not listening.
	He's like, hey baby, yeah, tickle it over there.
	Yeah, that's nice.
	And right there, that's where I want it.
	Yeah, yeah, exactly.
	Whatever.
	Listen to the guy.
	He's like in the Hoover and the driveway.
	And I think, wow, that's...
	Is this a really good driveway?
	That depends.
	If you threaten the Hoover, you don't put away the dishes.
	And a lot of people keep doing...
	He's keeping that shirt off for any reason at all to get it off.
	Exactly.
	Ian Punnett, this Saturday and Sunday on Coast to Coast AM. What the hell did Ian just say?
	Exactly.
	Exactly.
	Wow.
	That's a beauty.
	Yeah, we missed that one, apparently.
	By the way, for people out there, it's pronounced cryptozoology.
	Yeah, not zoology.
	Remember we used to harp on that?
	We had an actual zoologist say he was a zoologist.
	No, we had a clip of somebody claiming to be a zoologist, and it was like, okay, not really.
	But, this is probably too long.
	Well, it's not that long.
	The program Nova.
	And now people are sending me tons and tons of clips about what magnetic forces do to your brain.
	I don't want to play, it's too boring.
	Oh, come on.
	Really?
	It's not.
	Nah, it's boring.
	Okay.
	But, you know, they have all these, it's always a TV host, interestingly enough.
	And they're like, well, you know, we went to see what would happen.
	And they put a magnet near the guy's head and he starts talking like that, like a babbling idiot.
	Really?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	And they can make your...
	This would be like a fun ride at the amusement park.
	I don't know if it's good for you.
	I have a feeling it may not be that good.
	But yeah, apparently they have it all mapped out so they know exactly where different functions are in the brain.
	And on this Nova episode, link in the show notes, noagindashow.com or seanhannity.com.
	I don't think you should be using that.
	I like it.
	Until we get the cease and desist, I want to keep using it.
	Shutupslaves.com.
	There you go.
	They literally say, okay, I'm going to make your thumb twitch.
	And then the guy puts the magnet over it.
	It's a big electromagnet.
	And he puts it over a certain head of his brain.
	The guy's thumb starts to twitch.
	So this is science that they know about.
	They know how to do this stuff.
	I think it's all highly interesting.
	Now I have a couple other things.
	I have an end of show clip, which is another Russia Today.
	Beautiful.
	We're not at the end of the show yet, but it's titled MSNBC's Love Affair with Wars, which is great.
	I'm telling you, these guys are so on to hammering everybody, this Russia Today.
	So they got Tom Hartman on this thing now.
	Tom.
	Yeah, Tom's on the thing.
	And he seems to have lost weight.
	He looks like he's disturbed.
	And he bugs his eyes out now.
	It freaks you out when you see it.
	I would recommend everybody to watch.
	This is just a short one.
	We didn't even talk about this last week.
	Apparently, because there was so much flack about the radiation coming from the naked body scanners, they hired some jabroni dutz bag to basically rewrite the press release.
	And then they do the exact same thing.
	They don't actually measure the devices.
	They're saying, well, what the devices emit, as per the...
	The manufacturer doesn't even say it.
	It's just what...
	No one's actually measured the devices.
	He goes through the whole banana thing, the whole radiation thing.
	Now, we know from congressional hearing that the devices don't work.
	Don't work.
	But now we have a new term, a scientific term, for the amount of radiation that is coming off of these devices, John.
	Can you guess what it is?
	No, but I'm sure it's going to make me annoyed.
	53 minutes past the hour right now.
	We're talking about those full-body x-ray scanners in airports.
	Of course, they've been a center of controversy, but also a source of concern for a little while as the debate shifted from the privacy issues to any potential health risks.
	Well, now a new report by researchers from the University of California finds that although passengers are exposed to some radiation, they shouldn't be too concerned.
	Now, so, I actually linked to this, these researchers, and they did not do any research.
	They literally just rehash all the same BS. I mean, literally did not research the machines, but even the Wall Street Journal was printing this research.
	Oh, study shows.
	Oh, shut up, slave.
	Well, here it comes.
	Here's the technical term for the amount of radiation coming out of the naked body scanners.
	Senior medical correspondent Elizabeth Cohen joins us live from Atlanta with details.
	So we know that you're getting a dose of radiation, I guess, because they were a small, small dose.
	But do they know exactly how much is in these machines and what the effect is?
	They do.
	And so what these researchers did is they looked at what the dose of radiation you get is, and they tried to put it into terms that regular people can understand.
	And so I'm going to use a term they didn't use, but they basically say that the amount of radiation you get is teeny weeny weeny.
	There you go.
	Oh no.
	That is disgusting.
	Teeny-weeny-weeny, John.
	It's teeny-weeny-weeny.
	I'm the senior medical correspondent.
	All right?
	Here it comes.
	Teeny-weeny-weeny.
	They looked at what the dose of radiation you get is, and they tried to put it into terms that regular people can understand.
	And so I'm going to use a term they didn't use, but they basically say that the amount of radiation you get is teeny-weeny-weeny.
	This is like, how much more insulting do these people have to get before the public gets outraged?
	Forget it.
	No, no, no.
	See, that was my meltdown last week.
	No, no.
	I'm just sticking to the people who listen to the show, and I'm happy that we have them.
	That's all we need.
	So Jay, myself, and Mimi went through SFO a couple days ago to come to New York, right?
	Right.
	So we're going to be confronted with the body scanners.
	So what do you think happened?
	They weren't in use.
	No.
	Oh.
	No, even more interesting.
	Well, you opted out.
	They took them out.
	They're gone?
	They were gone.
	There wasn't any scanners there.
	SFO, they were the first ones to have them.
	This is the main part of United where everybody goes in and there was not a scanner to be seen.
	Wow.
	So it's just magnometers now?
	Yeah.
	Wow.
	So they're completely gone.
	Yeah, they weren't abandoned or they weren't on the side.
	No, they weren't there.
	Huh.
	Yeah, I found that weird, too.
	That's very weird.
	I mean, aren't we under imminent terrorist threat?
	Aren't the terrorists about to attack at any minute?
	Aren't we under complete lockdown?
	See something, say something?
	I mean, come on.
	See something, say something.
	I mean, we need to call the number.
	Yeah, I've noticed that the naked body scanners are gone.
	I need to say something about that.
	I don't need that.
	They're saying it on the show.
	They'll pick it up.
	Wow.
	I just want to congratulate SFO for having common sense.
	Yeah, right.
	Well, I'm sure that something bad is coming back.
	One of those humanoid things that MRI Global is making.
	Good news from Clifford Stanley, Defense Department spokeshole.
	Hey, don't ask, don't tell.
	Repeals should be ready by the summer.
	And I don't believe that to be true because...
	Oh, that's a good one.
	We should make a pool.
	Yeah.
	Okay, so here's how you know it can't be true.
	So they're doing this training and they have to train everybody, you know, not to say stuff like, hey, faggot!
	You know, that's basically what...
	It's like, here's your training manual.
	Well, we did some of these things.
	Like, if you see two people kissing off-duty and out of uniform, and they're of the same sex, do you A, say something, B, shut up, B, join in?
	That would be C, actually.
	So roughly 200,000 service members, or 9% of the total force, which I find interesting by itself because the Defense Department has not been able to actually say how many people they have in the armed forces.
	Have been trained on how to handle the repeal.
	So they have 91% left to go.
	And they're going to do that in two months?
	I don't think so.
	I don't think so.
	But, you know, you're right.
	Let's take the pool.
	Let's see.
	What do you think?
	You think this year, John?
	You think they'll actually do it this year?
	No.
	No, I don't think so either.
	I think we'll have to hear one of these, like, it's very difficult, you know, with everyone moving off and shipping them out, and, you know, we've got all the camps now in Libya, you know, we just can't be dealing with that right now.
	We're way too busy.
	More important things to do, like protecting your security.
	I think that's what it'll be.
	I don't see any other way.
	I was watching the McLaughlin group this morning, and I was...
	And somebody did drop the bomb, which is one of the things that we talked about on a previous show, the potential to get feet on the ground in Libya.
	They have to attack us, literally.
	And so we talked about the false flag possibility.
	Somebody dropped the bomb on the show and said, well, you know, the thing is now he's going to be mad at us.
	He's going to be mad at us and then he's going to go back to his old terrorist ways.
	He's going to bring a plane down!
	Next thing you know, we're going to be under attack.
	Yeah.
	So you've got to bring this into the public consciousness slowly.
	Well, no, it's not just slowly.
	We're already getting people a little worried again about airplanes.
	We had the huge gaping hole up here in the southwest 737.
	Yeah, gaping holes appearing in airplanes seems odd.
	Yeah, well, you know, I think it was maybe CNN was saying, oh, it could have been a meteorite.
	Yeah, right.
	Yeah.
	A meteorite.
	Literally, it's like possible meteorite strike.
	I don't know.
	I mean, I do know that if, like, that flight that got shot at in Charlotte, if you're shooting holes in the top of the plane, yeah, that's a good place for structural damage to take place.
	Maybe someone shot through it first.
	Maybe it's one of those.
	Yeah, maybe.
	This is weird.
	But that's all, you know, like, trains good, planes bad, woo-woo.
	So, good game, by the way.
	Some people might want to get a copy of this new game.
	I don't know how new it is, but it's out.
	Board game.
	I think it might be a board game, maybe a real game.
	I'm not sure.
	It's from Z-Man Games.
	Pandemic.
	No, it's a real game.
	It's on sale.
	It's on sale over there at Amazon.
	Yeah, that's just groovy.
	If you don't like the new version of Monopoly, which is pretty lame, which uses electronic money.
	The way you cheat now, the old Monopoly game, you used to have to point at something to your kids and turn around and you'd steal some of their money.
	Yeah, exactly.
	That's the old way.
	Take a house.
	The new way is you hack the computer and then you steal the electronic money.
	Oh, man.
	Yeah, there was some more vaccine news.
	Yeah, let's see.
	Pandemic, of course, is what you just mentioned there.
	Colombian scientist discovers how to prevent infectious diseases forever.
	These guys keep cropping up all the time.
	They're just trying to get it out there.
	But the one that really blew me...
	What?
	Wait a minute.
	Let's back up a couple of notches.
	How does that work?
	Colombian scientist Manuel Elkin Pataroyo.
	From Colombia?
	Yes.
	So he's gotten sick of finding different ways to synthesize cocaine?
	Whoa.
	Yeah, there you go.
	Exactly that.
	Has discovered the chemical properties which will permit the creation of synthetic vaccines to prevent virtually all the existing infectious diseases of the world.
	You're right.
	It was probably a synthetic coke guy.
	He said, eh, I know how to do that.
	Why can't I apply it to something else?
	Hmm.
	We'll see.
	So I guess the idea is whatever the infectious disease is, he can rebuild it within seconds and then make a vaccine out of it.
	Is that the idea?
	It kind of sounds like that.
	What was the drug that was against restless leg syndrome?
	Remember that when we had the commercial?
	Yeah.
	I don't remember the drug, but it was something stupid.
	Right, but apparently you don't need the drug.
	Well, that we knew from the beginning.
	No, but I mean...
	Here it is.
	RLS, as it's known, Restless Leg Syndrome.
	They have now...
	Hold on a second.
	Science!
	Apparently, masturbating makes your restless leg syndrome go away.
	No, that's funny.
	Yeah, it's on April 1st, obviously.
	But that's what New Scientist did.
	I thought it was pretty funny.
	I thought it was good.
	I read your April 1st column.
	Like, really, John?
	Facebook being bought by the Chinese and the Indians?
	Really?
	I was believable.
	No, I mean, everything except the whole idea of Facebook being bought by the Chinese and the Indians.
	I got an email asking me if I was serious.
	Was this a true story?
	Please.
	I'm just saying, you can't be as outrageous as you think.
	I mean, you can be as outrageous as you want to be if you just play it straight.
	People will believe the story.
	I've done April Fool's gags for, I don't know, 30 years.
	I've always had one every year.
	I've done one.
	This happened to be an April Fool's column right on the first.
	It was perfect, so I did it.
	And I played the thing as straight as I could.
	There's a bunch of tells in there, obviously.
	I put as many in as I can.
	Yeah, like the whole Facebook being bought by the Chinese and India thing.
	Yeah, that would be the big deal for like $700 billion.
	Right, John?
	Excellent.
	Duh.
	I'm telling you, I got emails.
	Is this right?
	Yeah.
	Do they have an AOL.com email address that these were coming from?
	Maybe.
	Maybe.
	Alright, let me go to Gitmo Nation Down Under.
	There is an excellent program, and I just want to play this because, I mean, we don't have guests on this show, but I could only imagine if we did, it would be...
	And this is actually under the heading of...
	So we've been tracking for a while now the carbon taxes that are going to be implemented in Gitmo Nation down under.
	And this, of course, has everyone up in arms, mainly because the new prime minister there, the crazy lady, what's her name?
	Gillard.
	She said, yeah, we're not going to have any carbon taxes.
	And then she gets in office like, hey, it's time for some carbon taxes.
	And apparently it's going to be like $700 billion.
	So these two guys on Melbourne radio station MTR 1377, Steve Price and Andrew Bolt, who are both deniers and have been denounced by the left as being deniers.
	So it's kind of like the Adam and John of Down Under, only we're much prettier.
	They get the government's chief climate He's a scaremonger on the phone.
	His name is Tim Flannery.
	And according to Steve Fisher, who is our producer who sent this clip to me, the guy's a complete shill, constantly refers to himself as being independent.
	But he's also the architect of Gillard's carbon tax.
	And he's, of course, his job is, you know, he's a spokeshole.
	He's supposed to convince everybody that we have to actually pay carbon taxes to save the world.
	And these guys have done something, and I just want to play the whole clip, and I will not interrupt.
	We should just shut up and listen to it.
	It is so good that this needs to be done in America.
	And anybody can do this.
	All you have to do is confront these elitist pricks who are trying to steal your money with the actual data.
	And they do it to this guy, to this Tim Flannery, and he just can't get out of it.
	And they completely make such a beautiful point.
	Have a listen to this.
	Just trying to get basic facts without worrying about the consequences of what those facts might lead people to think.
	On our own, if by cutting our emissions, because there's a heavy price to pay by 5% by 2020, what will the world's temperatures fall by as a consequence?
	Look, it will be a very, very tiny increment.
	Have you got a number?
	I mean, there must be some numbers.
	I just need to clarify in terms of the climate context for you.
	If we cut emissions today, global temperatures are not likely to drop for about 1,000 years.
	Right.
	But I just want to get to this very basic fact.
	I'm finding it really curious.
	Now, I'm finding it really curious that no one has got a fact.
	If I buy a car, I pay the money, I want to know how much it costs, and I want to know if it's going to do the job.
	In this case, I want to know the cost of cutting our emissions by 5% by 2020, and will it do the job?
	How much will the world's temperatures fall by if Australia cuts its emissions by this much?
	Well, as I said, it'll be a very, very small increment.
	Can you give us a rough figure?
	A rough figure.
	I'm sorry, I can't because it's a very complex system and we're dealing with probabilities here.
	Will we talk about...
	I'm just trying to get the facts in front of the public so we know what we're doing.
	Just unbiased.
	Is it about, I don't know, are you talking about a thousandth of a degree, a hundredth of a degree?
	What sort of rough figure?
	Just let me finish and say this, that If the world as a whole cut all emissions tomorrow, the average temperature of the planet is not going to drop for several hundred years, perhaps as much as a thousand years, right?
	Because the system is overburdened with CO2 that has to be absorbed, and that only happens slowly.
	That doesn't seem a good deal.
	What's that saying?
	That doesn't seem a good deal.
	If we spend trillions of dollars to cut the world's emissions, that we won't notice the difference.
	Well, our great-great-great-great-great-grandchildren won't even notice the difference.
	It'll just keep getting worse if we don't.
	That's the problem.
	But I just want to get back to the fact that someone surely must have done the sums, and I'm looking at some sums here.
	Someone surely must have done the sums that for all these billions of dollars we're spending in programs, That it's going to have a consequence in terms of cutting the world's temperatures.
	So you don't know about Australia.
	You don't know, but you wouldn't dispute that it's in about a thousandth of a degree around that magnitude, right?
	It's going to be small, as I said.
	No, no.
	Hard facts, Tim.
	Hard facts.
	But this is a hard fact.
	It's not going to drop, right, for a long time.
	So it's not going to drop and it's not going to be anything we notice.
	All right, well, look, you said it's about getting the world on board, all right?
	Let's say the world follows our lead.
	By how much, by say 2100 then, 2100, will the spending of these trillions, by how much will that cut the world's temperatures to the nearest one thousandth of a degree?
	It's not going to drop for hundreds of years.
	These guys are awesome.
	Wow, where'd you get that clip?
	I just told you, from Stephen Fisher, our producer in Melbourne.
	This is from MTR 1377.
	And then they go on and they talk about all these scientists who denounce the whole idea.
	Of CO2, global warming, climate disruption, etc.
	And the guy's like, well, I wouldn't discredit him.
	Well, him neither.
	It just goes on and on.
	These guys are great.
	Awesome.
	I can't wait to meet these guys when we go visit.
	Really good.
	And this is like the main guy.
	And they're just saying, okay, so what is it?
	Well, we won't see any change for a thousand years.
	Well, that doesn't seem like a good deal.
	For trillions of dollars, especially when the Indians aren't going to do anything.
	Yeah, it doesn't seem like a good deal.
	The Indians have already just said, no, we're not doing it.
	Whatever it is.
	Go do it yourself.
	But does that mean, conversely, John, that if we just keep on trucking the way we go, that we won't actually see anything really bad happen for another thousand years?
	Or does it not work that way?
	Well, let me take a...
	Well, the way they put it, yeah, that's exactly what would happen.
	But let me just ask you a question.
	Do you believe in peak oil?
	Me, no.
	I think abiotic oil is much more likely.
	I don't think we're running out of oil at all.
	Well, if you ask most people who are...
	This is what I told you, but okay, you're playing it back to me.
	I like it.
	Go ahead.
	I was playing it back to you on purpose.
	You were supposed to pick it up.
	Right.
	I'm sorry.
	Let me put it differently.
	Yeah, man.
	We're totally running out of oil.
	We need to figure out some way to get some other kind of energy, like from the sun or the wind or batteries or something, like double Ds, because peak oil, man, peak oil.
	In the 70s, we already ran out of the oil.
	Well, then what's to worry about?
	exactly that That's what they should have asked.
	Although we know that even our guy, our chief, our spokeshole, what's his name?
	The scientist guy?
	Is it Holdren?
	Holdren?
	Holdren?
	I don't know.
	Yeah.
	He's like, no, no, no.
	Let's not talk about Ixnay on the IKPE oil pay.
	Talk about that.
	Yeah, well, he's the only guy that has a clue.
	You've got to give a guy like that credit for picking up on stuff like that.
	Yeah, this was really good.
	So I really like these two guys.
	Who was it?
	Steve Price and Andrew Bolt.
	Okay.
	Do you have a whole clip that you can put on the show notes?
	Yeah, no, absolutely.
	I'll put it in the show notes.
	And congratulations to Gitmo Nation Brussels sprouts, as you now officially have a world record for the country left without a fully functioning government, longest period ever.
	And on Tuesday, hundreds of students gathered in squares around the country for their Révolution des Frites.
	In protest of this atrocity.
	So did the Dutch ever put a government together?
	Yeah, they got a government.
	Well, I mean, call it a government.
	Yeah, they got a government, sure.
	Well, then I have to ask the question, how would you know?
	Right.
	It's just...
	Pop-up videos.
	The whole web is being destroyed.
	Gitmo Nation Leprechaun, our friends there in Ireland.
	Of course, the IMF and the European Union and the World Bank, they've made Ireland their bitch along with Greece.
	And something new is being introduced within the coming year.
	Property tax for all homeowners.
	As if it wasn't great enough.
	Now you have to pay property tax, which I guess they didn't have previously.
	I'm sorry to hear that for you guys.
	Yeah, it totally sucks if you've never had it.
	First, you've got your sales tax, you've got your property tax, you've got your fees, you've got your income tax, you've got your state income tax, you've got your federal income tax, and you've got, now of course they want to do a value-added tax in the United States, which is just another tax.
	Duh.
	We're being taxed to death.
	And there's corporate tax on top of that which the public has to pay for because, let's face it, they tax the corporation 35%.
	Who pays that 35% in the end?
	Yeah, we do, of course.
	So everything you buy is 35% on top of everything you're paying tax on.
	So in other words, what you do is you take a corporate product.
	So it would have been a dollar and you would have paid like 5% sales tax on it, which would have been $1.05.
	But because the company has to pay 35% income tax on the product, they actually now have to sell for not a dollar but $1.35.
	So the 5% sales tax actually goes up.
	So you double dip on this deal.
	And then now they figure, well, let's just make it 10%.
	So now you're paying $0.13 instead of a nickel.
	For the same item.
	And don't forget you're paying tax on excise for gasoline.
	So you're paying tax on tax.
	I mean, we're probably paying, I'd say...
	I mean, if you really look...
	I wish somebody would dig...
	I've seen a bunch of these things showing that we're paying like 50%.
	We had someone actually try to figure out what we're paying.
	It's up to 50%.
	Yeah, I think we're paying more tax in the United States than anywhere else in the world.
	It just doesn't come in the form of the income tax per se.
	And what's annoying to me is that we saw it.
	We went to see a comedy act and some guy went on bragging about how great it was to be an American because we have the lowest taxes in the world.
	What planet is this guy from?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	You have to go to a show, I believe.
	By the way, they just walked in with the tickets.
	Okay.
	Spider-Man.
	Oh, good.
	Good.
	I hope someone falls.
	That's why you're going.
	You just want to see someone fall.
	No, no.
	In fact, this morning on New York 1, the meme in New York is that this may be the biggest bust in the history of Broadway.
	Really?
	That bad, huh?
	So it was easy to get tickets, apparently.
	Yeah, I guess.
	There's guys, I'm like, hey man, I'll give you a Spider-Man ticket for a smoke.
	You got a cigarette?
	You got a cigarette?
	I got Spider-Man tickets.
	We'll see.
	I'll let you know.
	Some people said it's great entertainment.
	Well, it's great.
	We'll get a review.
	We'll get a review and we'll look forward to that.
	Let me run through some magic numbers before you go there, John.
	Vodafone has bought out 33% of Vodafone SR for $5 billion cash.
	Times of India, 211 candidates in fray for only 33 seats.
	Of course, we had the budget deal, $33 billion in cuts.
	We have Google now with 33% of the smartphone market.
	And the stink bug academic is now in 33 states.
	And I have to say my favorite, 33 archdiocese and priests accused but not named.
	That's actually a pretty big story, which is sad once again.
	And it's funny, I tweeted a link about that and I got some emails from priests who said, hey man, it's not everyone.
	We're not all bad.
	And apparently, if you have a collar on these days, you're walking around, you get assaulted.
	People get really pissed off, and they pull knives on priests.
	Which I hadn't really considered, but I guess, yeah, well, look at your PR. You might want to do something about that.
	Maybe just a thought there.
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	And remember, we have the end-of-show clip coming up.
	MSNBC's love affair with wars, as reported by Russia today.
	Quite funny, but quite true.
	And I miss you, John.
	I miss you back at home base.
	It's kind of tough with the Skype connection sucks.
	Yeah, well, I'll be back on Thursday, and I'll have a review of Spider-Man and more.
	Yay!
	And I guess we might have some news on some shysters.
	We always have news on shysters.
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	Believed by many to be the most liberal of all cable networks, MSN.
	MSNBC. Pro-Obama.
	It is clear that it matches what he said about that issue at the very start of his presidency.
	Pro-union.
	The conservative right in this country, they say you're nothing but a bunch of preloaders.
	That's what they say.
	And also, unmistakably, pro-war.
	Blogger, filmmaker, and former journalist Danny Schechter says television makes war possible.
	We couldn't have wars in America if TV networks didn't glorify them in some way and make them exciting and give action-oriented coverage, what I call militainment.
	Iraq.
	Afghanistan.
	And now...
	Yes, the U.S. involvement in Libya.
	Let's get it done.
	Let's arm these rebels.
	Let's give them a chance to fight.
	A sentiment also supported by MSNBC's most liberal talk show hosts, Rachel Maddow and Lawrence O'Donnell.
	It seems to me there's a practical war-making tactical success that they believe they could have in this particular country.
	Exactly.
	He kept describing himself as sort of acutely aware of the risks and the costs of America doing any sort of military intervention.
	And so you're exactly right.
	I think we have to do it.
	It is a moral decision at this point.
	So you might be thinking, well, that's just because the U.S. involvement in Libya falls under a Democratic president.
	But, as it turns out, MSNBC has had a long-standing love affair with war.
	Remember Ashley Banfield?
	She became a star reporter covering the World Trade Center attacks.
	But in 2003, she made a speech at Kansas State University, just as the war in Iraq was getting started.
	She said about the coverage, what didn't you see?
	You didn't see where those bullets landed.
	You didn't see what happened when the mortar landed.
	A puff of smoke is not what a mortar looks like when it explodes, believe me.
	There are horrors that were completely left out of this war.
	MSNBC refused to let her out of her contract, but kept her off air, thus muzzling her.
	It happened, too, with former independent governor Jesse Ventura.
	CNN, MSNBC, and Fox got in a bidding war for me.
	MSNBC won.
	Then a phone call asking if it was true that he didn't support the war in Iraq.
	Well, it turned out they wouldn't put me on the air.
	They paid me for all three years, they pulled my show, and I sat and collected paychecks and I couldn't say anything because my contract said I couldn't do any cable nor any news shows for three years.
	So too did Pulitzer Prize winning journalist Peter Arnett after giving this interview on Iraqi TV. America is reappraising the battlefield.
	In rewriting the war plan, the first war plan has failed.
	Because of Iraqi resistance.
	When MSNBC was still up and coming, its highest rated show was hosted by this man, Phil Donahue, an outspoken critic of the war.
	You know, we're all now, everybody's righteous.
	What a terrible Hitler this is.
	We were mute when he was doing that.
	He was our SOB. Absolutely.
	And now we're sending our sons and daughters to war to fix that mistake.
	It doesn't seem fair to me.
	That show was canceled a few weeks before the war started.
	Phil Donahue was an anti-war voice on MSNBC, one of the cable news channels.
	And a memo that was leaked as the Donahue show was cancelled is very explicit.
	It said, we don't want this to be a face of NBC as the United States goes into war.
	Looks like to stay on board, you need to sound more like this.
	Look, I am a liberal.
	I am a progressive.
	But that means that we need to stand behind people who want freedom.
	This isn't bush talk.
	This is totally different from Iraq.

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