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	That's not gonna get you laid.
	is going to get you thrown in jail.
	Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak.
	It's Sunday, November 14, 2010.
	Time for your Gitmo Nation Media assassination episode 252.
	This is No Agenda.
	Your support at work.
	Coming to you from the brand new Hilltop Watchtower Crackpot Command Center in Gitmo Nation West and the People's Republic of Southern California.
	In the morning, I'm Adam Curry.
	And from the redesigned Buzzhill Bunker in northern Silicon Valley where everyone is rich except me.
	I'm John C. Dvorak.
	It's Crackpot and Buzzkill.
	In the morning.
	Really, the Buzzhill Bunker, huh?
	I said Buzzkill, didn't I? Oh, it sounded like Buzz Hill to me.
	Well, maybe I mumbled.
	Okay, it's the Buzz Hill bunker.
	It's a new one.
	We got the Buzz Hill bunker, everybody.
	Hey, John, in the morning to you.
	In the morning to you and in the morning to all the ships at sea.
	And all boots on the ground.
	Yeah, all boots on the ground.
	Here comes the train.
	Can you hear it?
	No, couldn't really hear it.
	Hey, my timer's not working.
	Oh, that's a bummer.
	I need to...
	Well, that's really strange.
	Hold on a second.
	Let me just get that going.
	Ah, the first bug is already in.
	Yeah, this is your new lash-up.
	Yeah.
	Oh, and also, in the morning to all the human resources in the chat room at noagendachat.net, bat signal has been initiated, and we are live all around Gitmo Nation.
	And I am indeed coming to you from the brand new Hilltop Watchtower Crackpot Command Center.
	Pictures to follow after I clean up all the crap.
	I was up until 2 this morning.
	2?
	Oh yeah.
	And then you don't have enough sleep to do the show.
	No.
	I'm actually unfit for my program duties.
	I'm not fit for service, sir.
	But if you'll have me, I'll do this one for the gipper.
	Yeah, well, I don't think there's any rules against it.
	Well, no.
	It went out yesterday at 1 o'clock.
	Went to Fry's and got all the new equipment and everything.
	And, of course, spent most of the time putting the desk together.
	Which actually said, easy and ready to assemble.
	Well, it was easy to walk out with it.
	And, you know, fuck fries.
	I'm sorry for dropping the F-bomb so early in the morning, but it irritates me.
	So, you know, you get a sales associate, which we had a great one, by the way, and then, you know, she writes everything up on her terminal.
	So she gets all the numbers and everything, which is great.
	She'll get the credit for it.
	She gets the commission.
	And then you go to the checkout.
	And then they have to go through every single item, rescan things, check off the whole list.
	And then you paid.
	It's yours.
	It is now my property.
	And then at the door, there's another douchebag, a customer, a courtesy customer representative, his badge tag said, Brian Douchebag.
	And then he's got to check off the whole list.
	I mean, I literally walked like 40 feet to the door in case you stole some candy on the way by.
	It's very, very annoying.
	Yeah, they used to do that at CompUSA, and they do that at Costco.
	But at Costco, it's kind of a long haul, and the way this place is set up, it's easy to steal stuff.
	You're reliably informed.
	Well, you can tell.
	Although, I think they have cameras all over the place.
	I'm not sure.
	I've never tried to steal anything.
	Of course they've got cameras.
	It's just like, oh, please.
	You know what's going to happen next?
	Naked body scanner.
	I think they should have them now.
	Have you seen what's going on in Germany?
	Yeah, they have mandatory naked body standards.
	Yeah, well go take a look at the blog and check out the first video that's up there.
	Oh, you mean the pirate party who is walking around naked?
	Yeah, walking around naked around the terminal.
	And you know what?
	I applaud the pirate party not only for doing this, but I applaud them for having kind of like a hot chick doing it.
	Yeah, there's a hot chick in there.
	And now they're walking around naked.
	Actually, they keep their underwear on.
	Well, they have their underwear on, yeah.
	But they're wandering around the airport.
	By the way, you can go to vork.org slash blog to see the video.
	They've got messages written all over themselves in magic marker.
	Yeah, like, hot stuff here.
	I think it's like, more good stuff here, arrow down to her panties.
	Yeah, right, that's another one.
	There's a bunch of different things.
	It reminds me of these, I think they've banned it, but if you would like to watch boxing a few years back, these boxers, for extra money, would be putting these.com websites on their bodies, scraped on with a magic marker.
	Of course, it's sweated off within two or three rounds.
	But, you know, that's what these guys should be doing.
	They might as well have a few sponsors.
	Yeah, that's a good idea.
	Hey, John, let's roll out the National Anthem for a moment.
	It's 30 seconds and everyone really loves it.
	Do you mind?
	Go ahead.
	Because it really should become a staple of the show.
	Ladies and gentlemen, please rise for your Gitmo Nation National Anthem.
	In the morning, Gitmo Nation We are all charged up to be Human resources and servants In all lands and all ships at sea From the east to west,
	down under To the lowlands and beyond We are happy and distracted slaves.
	Hear our gift for nation song.
	In the morning!
	All right, everyone in the chat room.
	Thanks, kids.
	Yeah.
	So we want to thank some of the producers who...
	We have an executive producer and a couple associates this week who helped fund the national anthem and the show.
	Yes, absolutely.
	So let's do that real quick before we get on with some of the topics.
	Gavin Warren in Torak, Victoria, Australia gave us 456.78.
	Wow.
	He's looking for both a layaway knighthood and karma.
	You want to give us some karma?
	Yeah, absolutely.
	Hold on a second.
	We have karma here.
	You've got karma.
	He has a gimmick.
	He says he's going to get a knighthood, but he's going to do the remaining 543.21, which is interesting if you take these.
	I didn't know you could put those two numbers together.
	You get 999.99.
	So we might as well throw in an extra for the niner-niner?
	Is that what you're saying?
	He wants you to throw the penny, and then we'll do that.
	Of course.
	He has a no-agenda business card printed and a t-shirt.
	He's a private investigator and the show keeps him sane, informed, and undistracted when performing surveillance duty, which is what these poor bastards do.
	Undistracted?
	Okay, he's going out with that chick.
	Let's tell the wife.
	That's Gavin Warren and it's pronounced Toorak is the name of the town.
	Gitmo Nation down under.
	So we have an Australian, an Aussie down under that's executive producer this week.
	Sean Connolly.
	Wait, also or associate?
	No, he is the executive producer.
	What is Gavin then?
	Gavin is the executive producer.
	That's who it is.
	Right, but then you say, then we have an Aussie.
	Or is that the Aussie?
	No, he is the Aussie.
	So that's it?
	Yeah, he's the executive producer, but we have two associates.
	Thank you.
	That's what I was looking for.
	See, this is what I said earlier.
	You have three monitors now, and you're looking up recipes.
	I'm not looking up recipes.
	Not paying attention.
	Actually, something very annoying has happened on my laptop, which is like what I used to run the show on, and now I have the spreadsheet on it.
	Yeah?
	It's like the screen is frozen, so it's going to be...
	The laptop is unhappy with you.
	Yeah, the laptop...
	Well, the laptop is on the outs.
	Uh-oh.
	It's going to do something bad now.
	We don't need it, except it's got the spreadsheet on it, so I just can't look at the spreadsheet, so...
	Sean Connolly.
	Sir Sean Connolly, as a matter of fact.
	Naperville, Illinois.
	$200.
	Looking for a little karma?
	Give him a karma.
	He's got the $200 in.
	Yeah, I would love to.
	You've got karma.
	He thinks the show's awesome.
	Yeah, it is.
	And the show is awesome.
	Arthur Kessler, Calgary, Alberta, Canada, $200.
	In the morning, John and Adam, I was once a douchebag, but donating to the show has made me realize that I need a de-douching.
	Well, we can handle that.
	You've been de-douched.
	He calls himself Gitmo Nation maple syrup.
	That's an interesting approach.
	Love the show and opt out slaves!
	Yeah.
	So we want to thank our executive producers for today's show.
	Yes, thank you very much.
	It's funny because the spreadsheet...
	It's good because the spreadsheet is stuck on like row 10.
	And I'm like, oh man, we got like no support.
	Row 10.
	Let's see what is row 10.
	Double nickels on the dime from Sean McGrath.
	That's from Everett.
	Okay, a couple of PR mentions.
	A lot going on today, John.
	First of all, we have from noagendarecords.com, and these links will be in the show notes, noagendashow.com, the GX2 No Agenda in the Morning Christmas album is out.
	So we'd like you to go there and grab a copy of that portion of the proceeds, if not all, actually.
	I'm not sure what that is, but certainly a portion goes to support the show.
	And a big shout-out to GX2, of course, and Mr.
	Oil, who are pioneering that effort.
	And you should see the album cover, John.
	It's great.
	Wait a minute.
	GX2 has done a Christmas album?
	Yeah.
	It's the No Agenda in the Morning Christmas album.
	That should be interesting.
	It's got all kinds of all-seeing eye and Illuminati signs.
	All your cheery Christmas messages.
	Exactly.
	All in one little package.
	It's really funny.
	NoAgendaRecords.com.
	Then we have a new initiative, which actually we've been asked to provide voice samples for.
	It's noagendaip.com.
	And of course, if you want to know your IP address, all you do is go to noagendaip.com.
	I shall demonstrate this for a moment.
	And we have to send in our voice samples, John.
	It's actually quite simple.
	We only have to each count from zero to nine.
	Hold on a second.
	In morning, here's your IP address.
	Sleep.
	Sleep.
	It literally says, here's your IP address, slave.
	And then it reads your IP address, and there's a donate button down below.
	Now, he just asked if we would just do the numbers on the show, because we'll never get it together for after the show.
	We're hopeless.
	Okay, so I'll do the number, then you do the number.
	Okay, ready?
	Zero.
	You're supposed to do the next number.
	Why don't you just do your whole nine?
	We can't coordinate that.
	Okay.
	First of all, here's your IP address.
	Slave.
	Zero.
	One.
	Two.
	Three.
	Four.
	Five.
	Six.
	Seven.
	Eight.
	Niner.
	Okay, your turn.
	Here's your IP address, slave.
	Zero, one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine.
	Wow, are we good or what?
	Yeah, I didn't make a mistake.
	It's amazing.
	We are really, really good.
	Ah!
	Didn't mean to hit that one.
	I don't know.
	It just went off.
	What's going on?
	Then we have...
	All right.
	So let's take a look.
	Wait, wait, wait.
	A couple more.
	There's a lot going on.
	I told you.
	Oh, you got more guys that are...
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Billy the Kid, Nancy Allen have put together NoAgendaMug.com.
	This is a site that offers laser engraved items with No Agenda sayings, memes, and logos.
	And a portion of the proceeds will go to the show.
	So they've started with mugs at noagendamug.com.
	Very happy about that.
	We have Sebastian from GeoNation Lowlands.
	He says, I've got an idea how to promote the show.
	I've been sharing an iTunes playlist with No Agenda Podcast on a huge network.
	You know that works, John, with iTunes.
	You can share your library and anyone else who opens up iTunes on the network will actually see that library listed.
	As available on the left-hand side.
	You don't use iTunes, so you probably don't know about that.
	Go on.
	Okay.
	So this is a very good idea.
	So he actually has his shared library name, which is noagenda.com.
	Listen to this, it says.
	And so they can stream shows right from his computer.
	He's doing it on really big networks.
	So I think that's a great idea.
	He'll soon be moving to Gitmo Nation Blood Diamond.
	We wish him lots of luck with that.
	And then finally, we have a brand new No Agenda iPhone app.
	It's No Agenda Sounds.
	This is in the App Store, and we shall put that in the show notes, noagendashow.com.
	What's cool about it, there's virtual No Agenda Coins inside the app, which you can purchase internally from $0.99 to $19.99.
	It's known as an in-app purchase.
	And it provides the buyer with an image of a No Agenda coin that can be sent to friends for a virtual challenge and has great sound bites, all kinds of good stuff.
	So we'll put that in the links that rock as well.
	And it looks like another great iPhone app that is out there.
	So thanks to Gavin Warren, executive producer for episode 252, and our associate executive producer, Sir Sean Connolly.
	And Arthur Kessler, you guys, you should know the drill by now, but this is a very real credit, and unlike Hollywood, if you want us to vouch for you, we'll be there, not a problem.
	All the rest of you out there, you've got to do something very important, which is go out and propagate our formula.
	Our formula is this.
	We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
	New.
	World.
	Order.
	Say it with me now, slave.
	Shut up, slave.
	And I might add that a lot of people are talking about getting dosimeter, no agenda, dosimeter badges that would also be sold.
	And you could then wear through the naked body scanner once.
	Peace.
	Thank you.
	And apparently a lot of people are looking at that.
	See what you get.
	Yeah.
	See what you get.
	Hey, by the way, so we got a bunch of letters saying, you know, it was a mistake to tell people to lie and get some poor bastard in trouble at the TSA. And we don't think anyone's going to do that anyway.
	But I do have an idea.
	For people who go through the system and want to stir up some stuff.
	Okay.
	Lay it on.
	First of all, get the UCSF paper on the naked body scanner, which is available.
	Which we had in the show notes.
	Go look at 251.
	We'll split it in again.
	It's linked on NPR. In Google, you can type in UCSF scanner TSA and you'll find it.
	Anyway, take that with you and hand it over to the TSA guys pull you aside because you're going to opt out.
	You will take this and show them this document and then bring some documents showing that the TSA won't allow their own employees to wear dosimeters.
	And just say to the guy, hey, do you have any idea why they won't let you wear dosimeters?
	If I was working around x-ray machines like that big box over there and this new thing, I would want one.
	I think you guys should unionize.
	Well, how cool is it?
	Isn't that the moment where you hand someone a no-agenda dosimeter?
	That would be ideal.
	Would it be cool if the TSA were wearing bucks a pop or whatever it is?
	Are they really that expensive?
	Oh, that's a bummer.
	Well, you know, the best deal I've seen is from, and people can look this up, look up Stanford.
	I think it's Stanford Dosimeter.
	I've got that listed in the show notes.
	And that is a $69 a month subscription.
	What?
	A subscription?
	What is this thing?
	Communicate with the homeland?
	No, no.
	You keep sending the thing back and forth and back and forth.
	It's like a book club.
	Oh, it doesn't just color up or something.
	You have to actually send it in and then they have to evaluate it?
	Yeah, there's a process.
	Well, that sucks.
	That's the way it is with these things.
	I guess you could bring some sort of a device with you, but that would be very expensive.
	But anyway, what I would do is get the TSA. Just give them a little talking to about the fact that they're not wearing dosimeters and they should.
	Give them this paper on this stupid device.
	And then ask them, you know, why aren't they unionized?
	How can they put up with this crap?
	In other words, go in there and help them.
	There's also a brand new, well not brand new, but there's brand new to me, I have it in the show notes, a PDF document, a test performed at 12 TSA checkpoints by the CDC, your very own government, and actually it was at a whole bunch of checkpoints, but they found 12 TSA checkpoints exceeded safe limits of radiation from the CDC. Yeah.
	No, these guys are, these TSA guys are, literally, they're going to be toast if they don't do something about this and they better do it fast.
	But they have to be told.
	You know, the way I see it, they're just essentially, they're essentially getting screwed over by their own government.
	They're really funny because the CDC, you know, they do this report and then they have some recommendations.
	What TSA managers can do?
	Develop a radiation safety program in accordance with the Occupational Safe and Healthy Administration Standard.
	Yeah, good luck.
	Provide regular radiation training to baggage screeners.
	What is radiation training?
	Run!
	Provide regular training on safe work practices to baggage screeners.
	Improve equipment maintenance.
	Yeah, that would be the top of my list.
	Periodically check radiation level from machines and post these results on each surveyed machine.
	This is actually the stuff that unions are good at, right?
	This is the stuff that a union will do for you, but these poor TSA bastards are all going to wind up dead.
	Yeah, you know, I think my understanding is there's a couple of TSA areas in the country where there is some union representation.
	Generally speaking, as far as I know, it's not true across the country.
	And if it is, they've got a crappy union like the SEIU or something like that.
	The fact of the matter is the union should be all over this, and they're the only ones who can do it because apparently the employees, many of them have complained.
	We've got letters about this that they would like to wear a dosimeter.
	One of them apparently puts one in his pocket because they won't let him wear one because it's going to freak out the customers.
	Hell with them.
	In other words, the TSA guys can go to hell as long as the customers aren't freaked out by a bunch of guys wearing TSA dosimeters or radiation dosimeters because the public would be upset.
	And rightly so.
	The whole thing is a mess.
	This is all, and we always have to remember this one thing.
	You might want to mention this to the guys.
	Do you realize, you know, tell them this.
	I hope you realize that your old director, your old Homeland Security chief does turn off guys behind these things.
	Well, now, it's interesting you bring that up because there's a number of clips and actually a couple of interesting things that have taken place.
	So, Chertoff, from the Chertoff Group...
	And actually, the Washington Post actually wrote about the fact that Chertoff was hawking these things not even a year after he left as Secretary of Homeland Security.
	And immediately, the Chertoff Group was advising all these machines.
	And guess who just joined the Chertoff Group, John?
	I'm sure it's going to be hilarious.
	Yes, the former Home Secretary of the United Kingdom, John Reed.
	Oh, they're going to have a lot of machines over there.
	But the funny thing is, listen, I have a little clip here.
	So he just joined, they just sent out the press release, and he left not too long ago, but I guess he just joined in the past week.
	Ten days ago, he's on the BBC with this.
	A question we'll be addressing later on in the program.
	For the time being, David Loyne, thank you very much.
	John Reid, Lord Reid, is the former Home Secretary, was a strong proponent of beefing up security, is now Chairman of the Institute for Security and Resilience Studies at University College London, and he's on the line.
	Good morning to you.
	See, this is a little transition thing, right?
	First you've got to go to the University of London, and then you join the Chertoff Group.
	Yeah, get some credentials.
	Yeah, yeah.
	And it's like five minutes, I'm just going to play the beginning, because that's where it gets fun.
	Good morning to you.
	What do you make of yesterday's events?
	Well in itself it's obviously a very serious incident or series of incidents but I think there's a secondary consequence behind it because it's an awful terrible reminder that this threat is a continuing one and I hope that that is taken on board by everybody concerned.
	It's only a few days ago, since we were getting suggestions inside and a response in government, from suggestions outside of government, that we might review downwards our security airports.
	And I said that time, two or three days ago, that I thought this was at best misplaced and at worst dangerous.
	No one paid a lot of attention then.
	Because I actually had the memo about it happening.
	Remember that?
	He came out.
	The airline guy said, stop this bullcrap security theater in the UK. And then, boom, two days later, UK security, all kinds of problems with the toner.
	So this guy's like, oh, I told you so.
	We told you so about this.
	Each of these things, when we get an incident like this...
	Then, of course, that is highlighted again, and I think the main thing out of this is to remember that we must sustain that vigilance even when there are no such incidents because the threat continues.
	We must sustain that kind of vigilance even when there's no threat!
	We must be vigilant.
	Yeah, sell more products so I can have more money, so I can retire to a nice place out in the middle of nowhere, Britain.
	Unbelievable.
	There's actually more from the Washington Examiner.
	So this is a worldwide problem, and it doesn't just happen with...
	And by the way, these body scans, what are they, like $250,000 a pop?
	I mean, this is...
	Well, that's a good question.
	I was thinking about that the other day, and I didn't look it up.
	Well, and that's just the sale.
	Forget about the maintenance contract.
	Oh, the maintenance contracts have got to be outrageous.
	So this is from the Washington Examiner.
	Many experts and critics suspected that the full-body naked scanners are now using that meme, which is good.
	Recently deployed at U.S. airports.
	Do little to make us more secure, blah, blah, blah.
	So here are some other people.
	Now, of course, we have RapidScan.
	We have L3 Communications.
	Major contractor with the Department of Homeland Security.
	L3 deploys three different lobbying firms, including Park Strategies.
	And let's see who's there.
	Former Senator Al D'Amato from New York.
	Of course, in the George Bush 1 administration, he appointed D'Amato to the President's Commission on Aviation Security and Terrorism.
	So now he's a consultant to the lobbying firm.
	$165 million for L3. Rapascan, they have a $173 million contract.
	Their lobbyists include Susan Carr, former senior legislative aide to David Price, chairman of Homeland Security Subcommittee.
	Then we have early TSA contractor for full body scanners.
	It was American Science and Engineering Company, including their lobbying team includes Tom Blank, former deputy administrator for the TSA. Don't you remember there would be no revolving door, according to Obama?
	Ah, yeah.
	Oh, geez.
	It doesn't seem that he'd get that one right.
	This is beyond the revolving door.
	This is like basic corruption.
	In other words, they're putting the public's health at risk.
	With these guys selling equipment that shouldn't even be in these airports.
	And it's ridiculous.
	And nobody seems to care.
	I mean, that's the weird thing about it is that, you know, like they said, you know, some guy opts out.
	Opt out!
	And, you know, everybody was reporting on opting out.
	They asked these guys, well, who else is opting out?
	Nobody.
	They just walked through.
	The TSA is being irradiated.
	The public is being irradiated.
	This is an x-ray device.
	It's unbelievable.
	It's unbelievable.
	And nobody gives a crap.
	And the thing that's going on now with all these protests, Congress is out of session, so they're not going to hold a hearing or anything.
	They've got private planes.
	They don't give a crap.
	They're not going through anything.
	It's unbelievable.
	As soon as I'm telling you, my feeling is the first thing that's going to happen is when a judge's wife gets groped, that's when it begins.
	But we're going to have to wait.
	The Thanksgiving thing, there's going to be so many stories after the Thanksgiving holidays because of all the people flying around.
	Congress is going to come back and stupidly, they won't even know this is going on.
	We've already got reports that people call their congressmen and nobody even knows that people are bitching about this.
	So, of course, the way this is moving, and this is the unfortunate part, is everyone's talking about the groping, the groping, the groping, but that will actually drive people towards the naked body scanners.
	The x-ray machine.
	And just two brief clips, which I think are kind of interesting.
	By the way, I had dinner with a very intelligent woman.
	Actually, it was like, yeah, dinner at Soho House, which maybe I'll talk about later, because I had persimmon...
	Pudding bread.
	Oops.
	Did I lose you, John?
	John?
	Oh, no.
	Hello, John!
	Oh, yeah.
	You're back.
	Yeah, but I had a punchline in there.
	It was beautiful.
	Let me try it again.
	Never mind.
	You want to try the punchline again?
	I had persimmons bread.
	No, no.
	You said you had dinner with a very intelligent woman.
	I said, well, I thought you had dinner with Mickey every night.
	Mickey was there.
	You're not getting the joke.
	I got the joke.
	The point was, there's a second part to the sentence.
	A very intelligent woman, when I was talking, and she's a journalist, and she likes it when I say, Lay some more of your conspiracy theories on the edit.
	Wait a minute.
	An intelligent woman who's a journalist?
	Let me write that one down.
	Yeah, please do.
	No, she's actually pretty damn smart.
	But she loves it when I have my conspiracy theories.
	She actually tipped me off to a couple things we'll get to later.
	And then I started talking about the...
	Because she didn't know about the...
	A journalist didn't know about the enhanced pat-downs, didn't know about these naked body scanners.
	So you know these things you go through that you see yourself naked and you have to put your hands up in the air like a slave?
	She said...
	Oh yeah, I think I've been through one of those.
	What is that?
	I'm like, oh yeah, so what rock have you been under?
	So this is how it's being sold in the mainstream media.
	From x-ray body scanners that can see just about everything to enhanced pat-down procedures where almost nothing is off-limits, some passengers are saying enough is enough.
	It's embarrassing to stand in front of all those people and So now, listen very carefully, because this is what the reporting is doing.
	It's like, it's horrible.
	They're feeling me up.
	They're feeling up my three-year-old daughter.
	There's a news anchor guy who had this whole big thing.
	Yeah, I blogged it.
	Oh, I mean, it's a horrible video to see.
	But it's all about, you know, you really don't want this, so you might as well go through the scanner.
	And of course, in this report, which is from NBC, you've got all the nice slaves saying, well, you know, as long as...
	I'll go through the naked body scanner.
	General Electric's making money on this thing.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	It's like getting groped.
	Even pilots object to the humiliation and the radiation.
	The Allied Pilots Association calling on members to decline the enhanced body scanners and request a pat-down in private.
	It's the cumulative effect of all this radiation that we're taking in that we're just saying, you know, we're not going to participate in this.
	And now, a Washington man who calls himself a frequent traveler set up this website, organizing a national opt-out day, the busy day before Thanksgiving, calling on passengers to opt out of enhanced body scans.
	It's not right.
	It's like...
	Taking our privacy away.
	It's just too far.
	In a statement, TSA says the new security procedures are necessary.
	We are frequently reminded that our enemy is creative and willing to go to great lengths to evade detection.
	That was Napolitano met with tourist leaders.
	The enemy is creative.
	We have to stay a step ahead every single time.
	It utilizes the latest intelligence to inform the deployment of new technology and procedures in order to stay ahead of evolving threats.
	And many passengers say they are willing to sacrifice privacy for security.
	I'd rather be safe than sorry.
	I think they have to do whatever they need to do to assure security.
	I'm okay with that.
	I'm okay.
	Yeah, I'm okay.
	Now, the funniest one ever, and then we'll get off this topic because I think people are listening to this show.
	I have one point to make.
	Let me make it quickly.
	You make your point, please.
	Napolitano would not go through the machine in a recent...
	That's right.
	That's right.
	Oh, she sent some other slave through.
	Yeah, she knows.
	Yeah, of course.
	I get my ass X rate.
	I don't want to have nothing to do with that.
	Uh-uh.
	But then Fox News really, really, really did it for me.
	They brought it all home, baby.
	One woman has started a YouTube video, which we're not going to show you.
	We're not going to show you that because, you know, it shows you someone naked, and that's only for the TSA to see.
	...talks about the way that she's been kind of twisted by the TSA in ways that we're not going to tell you, but you get the picture without the video.
	Listen, while people are watching this show, I feel them also running to YouTube and the other website that she mentioned so they can check it out.
	You know, I'm all for safety, but see, this is yet another reason I love the Train Trace.
	Ugh!
	This is yet another reason I'm on the train, Trace.
	I'm going to take the train.
	But wait, wait, it gets better.
	She tops it.
	She tops it.
	I know you do, Shannon.
	You're a big train bus, but sometimes you get on a plane, right?
	You've got to do it.
	Maybe this is why so many of those celebrities and folks out there will only go places on their, you know, tricked-out buses.
	They don't want to fly.
	Maybe this is part of it.
	They don't want to be seen naked.
	So, that's the setup.
	It's coming soon.
	We'll have a naked celebrity picture, and then, as we predicted, someone will get fired, it'll be an isolated incident, and don't worry, we've taken care of everything.
	Go back to your homes and wait for your bracelets to be scanned.
	Everything is fine.
	I'll tell you the truth in that old report you just made, the only thing that concerns me, because I think we have beaten this to death as best we can, to no avail, that's the point.
	The fact that we have a woman, this intelligent woman that you're talking about, this journalist, who doesn't even know this is going on and she's walking through equipment...
	Being scanned naked, and she doesn't even know it, is unbelievable to me.
	I think my point is that the people who don't listen to programs like the No Agenda show, and who aren't aware of their world and their surroundings, even people who are educated, intelligent, and should know better, we've been trained.
	It's Pavlovian.
	It's like, oh, there's a line for something.
	I watch it at Oakland.
	You know, people just, I don't know.
	Shuffle through.
	What is this?
	Hands up.
	Okay, alright.
	They're not thinking.
	People are just asleep.
	They're zombies.
	They're total zombies.
	I think this friend of ours actually recognized, oh crap, I'm a freaking zombie.
	Yeah, and by the way, with that butt, you may not want to be going through the scanner.
	Hopefully she's not listening.
	Sure.
	It's not a big one, it's just she has the wrong jeans on.
	You can have the wrong jeans.
	That's what it is.
	You can have the wrong jeans on.
	This last week's 30 Rock, they had Tina Fey, and she found some great jeans that made her butt look great.
	Of course, you can see the clips wasn't her butt.
	And so at the very end of the credits, because I actually stopped the credits, slowed the credit roll down, because I knew they had to do this.
	And there it was.
	Butt double.
	Tina Fey's butt played by.
	Just one more very disturbing thing.
	I got a note from producer Chris, who works in general aviation with helicopters.
	And he had a Eurocopter 135 aircraft.
	Electronic Master Box went out.
	And these are very expensive things, like $40,000, but basically it's a metal box and has all the circuitry in it.
	So he actually flew up to Teterboro, and he's in Florida.
	This is how the general aviation industry works.
	So he flew up there and he checked the box in his check baggage, and he goes to install this box.
	The TSA had not just opened the package that contained the box, they had opened the box...
	And they had, what's the matter babe?
	Mickey's like, it's the jeans.
	It was the jeans.
	She's not listening.
	I hope she's not.
	Mickey's like, oh no you didn't.
	Are you still there, John?
	Yeah, yeah, get back to the store.
	So they opened not only the package, but also they unscrewed this electrical master box, and they closed it up, jamming the internal connector, actually breaking some of the circuitry.
	This guy, luckily he checked it, because this could have been a major catastrophe with a helicopter.
	And what is the TSA doing opening certified aircraft parts?
	They're certified for a reason.
	You can't just go messing with that.
	And so now it's a 42,000 box, it's broken, and the guy's, you know, of course he has to sue the TSA for damages, but what are they thinking?
	And they'll never win that suit.
	But isn't that crazy that they're now opening up certified airline parts?
	I mean, what, because, oh, it looked like it had a cell phone in there.
	Oh, that could be Al Qaeda on the Arabian Peninsula.
	That's an incredible story.
	Was that covered in the news media anywhere?
	No, but he didn't.
	I don't think he's making a big deal of it.
	I think he just kept it for us.
	But, you know, he may have to if the T.S. They're not going to cough up any money.
	Then he should make a big stink about it.
	But, you know, it's like private aviation people.
	Who cares?
	Some rich fucker falls out of the sky.
	Yeah, that's about it.
	General Aviation, they're always trying to screw them.
	And we do have to say, there's this big story about the guy who recorded his opt-out in San Diego.
	Did you get this story emailed to you?
	Yeah, I also blogged it.
	I may or may not have blogged it, but I did definitely retweet it so everyone has seen it.
	And it's the guy who recorded his whole situation.
	But I'm thinking, because there's a video.
	Yeah.
	And all I know is every time I've ever pulled a camera anywhere out near TSA. Well, the videos, it's more like audio because, you know, he has kind of it in his hand and you can't really see anything.
	So it's more the audio.
	Yeah, but he's got some video.
	But the whole point is, he said, look, you can't feel me up.
	I'm not going to go through the body scanner.
	They said, well, then you have to leave.
	And then he left and they said, well, you can't leave the airfield because you have implied your consent by purchasing a ticket and we're going to sue you for $10,000 in civil court.
	Which is like, what?
	What are these people talking about?
	And I will say there is a lot of this implied consent.
	I've been reading up on it, John.
	It's pretty frightening.
	Yeah, but it's bogus.
	Implied consent has some logic to it.
	You're not giving consent, implied or otherwise.
	Have you ever read the small print on a ticket that you buy?
	I'll bet you there's something in there.
	Oh, this is typical.
	This is just like those licensing agreements that you get when you buy software.
	Yeah, but I think that's what we're talking about.
	Why didn't the judges in this country crack down on this bull crap?
	I think that the Supreme Court actually ruled on implied consent.
	This is the whole point.
	Yeah, they did, but it wasn't about anything going on today.
	That's an old case.
	Yeah, that's like saying the Constitution was written for old times.
	You know?
	Implight consent.
	Yeah.
	Hey, I think we should do what the Germans are doing.
	Walk around naked.
	Yeah.
	Anyway, Melissa...
	Strip down to your underwear, everybody, and just walk through.
	Melissa from Dallas says...
	My husband loves the show.
	I wanted to let you know that our new roleplay in the bedroom is him as a TSA guy patting the passenger down.
	It's kind of nice.
	New roleplaying game.
	TSA passenger roleplaying game.
	Thanks, Melissa.
	There's your badge.
	You should be wearing a badge to make it official.
	I'm not feeling it.
	It's not real enough.
	When I read that at two this morning, I was like, I'm smiling.
	I'm like, thank you.
	I just got a visual.
	I'm like, you know, like the guy's got his earbuds in listening to No Agenda, feeling up his wife.
	I'm not going to use the back of my hand now.
	You have implied consent, bitch.
	Come on.
	Let's leave.
	Wow, wow, wow, wow, wow.
	So just kind of on the same theme, I got a couple of clips I want to drop.
	Yeah.
	Um...
	This last week, people should go watch this show because it's like, wow, this is a weird show.
	And it should still be playing for the next few days, which is the Bill Maher show.
	I try to avoid it.
	It's outrageous how nutty he's gone.
	Michael Moore was on the show.
	And talk about a guy who's outrageous.
	I mean, this guy has completely lost it.
	I want to play.
	I've got a couple of Michael Moore clips.
	These clips are incidental because I recorded the show last night because I knew about this thing.
	They went on about this trains thing.
	They had a trains good, planes bad moment, which for some reason I couldn't find, so I got a different clip.
	Should we do the jingle?
	No, no, this is not the planes thing.
	I'm just going to mention that they talked about it, and it was like Michael Moore took a train ride from New Orleans to New York.
	And it was awesome!
	It was awesome.
	It was two days even though the bed had bed bugs.
	Two days.
	Two days.
	And they're all going on and on about the bullet train.
	It's awesome.
	And they obviously don't get it.
	These guys are traveling back and forth from New York to Hollywood on an airplane, and they're thinking that someone's going to take the train.
	And they think it's because you're going to save so much time because all the hassle you have at the airport.
	And people out there, we should have a – when we do our primer, we've got to put this one in it, which is when you get into an argument with somebody out there, our listeners, about to say, look, one guy walks into one of these high-speed trains with a bomb and blows a train up, which will make the biggest mess in the world, much worse than which will make the biggest mess in the world, much worse than They're going to put the same security measures in at these train stations.
	Please, they're not even going to wait for that.
	It's going to start before that.
	You watch them.
	I agree with that.
	I agree with that.
	But I'm talking about for the sake of argument.
	Yeah.
	Because, you know, you can say that because we know it's true.
	But if you're going to be arguing the point, you're going to have to...
	Okay.
	All right.
	Good point.
	Good point.
	At the cocktail party, we have to have a good argument.
	Yeah.
	They're going to have these damn things, because the whole idea is to sell more of these machines.
	If they have to blow up one of these trains themselves, if Chertoff has to put a bomb on a train...
	I wouldn't mind a $173 million contract.
	How about you, John?
	Oh, I could use a $173 million contract.
	To do what?
	Get hookers and blow.
	To obviously just tell people to buy more of these stupid machines.
	Because it's not just the government contracts.
	Once it's accepted policy and everyone's used to it, which will be soon, then it'll be every bank, it'll be the grocery store, every movie theater, every concert venue, every sports venue.
	These guys are going to be so rich from selling these machines.
	And it'll be like, okay, yeah, I guess here we go.
	I'll walk through.
	Hold my hands up.
	Okay.
	Terrorism.
	So anyway, so there's not going to be any time savings.
	So that's bogus.
	So the whole idea that, well, you don't do the hassle of the airport will be the hassle at the train station.
	And that's the argument you can make.
	So the time saving is nil.
	And the fact is, every time I've priced it out, the train costs more and takes twice as long.
	So I don't see it.
	And nobody brings this up on the show.
	Meanwhile, Michael Moore is on here, and he has two commentaries.
	There's one of them.
	Let's play the one.
	This is the one that's interesting.
	This is the mayor, Bill Maher, I'm sorry, and Michael Moore.
	Now, this is just a little exchange they have on with this Nora Ephron, who seems to be brain dead, and some other woman.
	And they're going on with a little panel, and they essentially are advocating, because earlier in the show, Bill Maher said the American public are like dogs.
	They don't understand anything.
	It's a very insulting commentary.
	And now they're essentially, if you listen to it between the lines, this is them actually advocating for dictatorship.
	Where was the president on this issue?
	Who's the woman?
	That was, I think that's Nora Ephron whining.
	All these things he could have done, he still would have lost.
	They argue that they don't.
	They argue that they cannot.
	No, he does have the power.
	He has the power to do so many things without Congress, and he should use that power for the next two years.
	What kind of power does he have to do without Congress?
	Executive orders.
	This asshole is advocating...
	Not the fact that the presidents over the last 20 years have abused the executive order privilege to an extreme, which is ruining the country.
	This idiot...
	And he gets a huge round of applause, by the way, from the audience.
	Oh, yes.
	Well, that could be the applause track.
	I know.
	I think this was legitimate.
	It could have been.
	But whatever the case was, there's a round of applause for this.
	Essentially, let's turn the president to a dictator because that's what we need in this country.
	We're never going to have things like global warming solutions and all the rest of it.
	This guy is essentially – this is what happened in Italy when Mussolini took power.
	Right.
	Right.
	No, seriously, Italy was not...
	We have some history on this.
	We have some stuff to look at.
	This has happened before, and this is the attitude that creates it.
	You have to remember that fascism, when it began as an intellectual movement in the 20s, was a liberal intellectual movement.
	It was a big deal.
	It's the only way to go because people are so stupid that we needed some other system and the trains are now running on time and the rest of it.
	Not to mention murdering everybody.
	The showers don't work.
	The showers suck.
	We need better showers.
	That's what we need.
	So Moore goes on with this wanting a dictator and then Moore backs him up.
	You know why it's so disappointing?
	I thought when we elected a black president, I thought two years in, I would be making jokes about what a badass gangster he was.
	Instead of yet another...
	How racial is that?
	How racial is that?
	He is the worst racist in the world, this guy.
	Wow.
	They're in the long line of Democrats like Al Gore, who looks like a wimp, the new caucuses.
	I mean, it's just that we seem to never get past this type of Democrat.
	I don't understand why.
	I don't understand why Clinton got all the testosterone in the entire party.
	He and Nancy Pelosi.
	You know?
	But there's so much testosterone.
	What a dick.
	So he goes on.
	This is again, you know, well, let's just take over the place and let's run it like a dictatorship.
	By the way, I remember when I was in college at the University of California, amongst liberals, and I was one at the time, there was always this subtle notion that it would be better with a quote-unquote benevolent dictatorship.
	And I think that runs within the Liberal Democrat Party, to be honest about it.
	Now finish this off with the playing clip that says Michael Moore, and you get a little more of a taste of this kind of thinking.
	You've got to give it to the Republicans.
	They do such a good job of formulating their message, speaking clearly to people.
	And when he just...
	It sits there and lies to you about how Pepsi...
	Pepsi just, you know, made a good corporate decision and removed trans fats without the government doing anything.
	Without actually mentioning that the reason we know trans fats are bad is because our tax dollars paid for the studies that discovered why they're bad.
	That's why they did it.
	And it's just...
	They are such good liars.
	I just...
	It just, you know...
	And...
	You know what's sad, though?
	Weird.
	If you talk to people from other lands, children from other lands, and Michael Moore comes on and says, but he's really good, right?
	He's really exposed the gun problem in America.
	I'm like, what?
	Really?
	Yeah, yeah.
	That's the perception of Michael Moore.
	Yeah, no, I think you're probably right.
	No, I am right, because I speak to Children's Motherland.
	Michael Moore is a douchebag.
	Yeah, hold on a second, John.
	Good call.
	If only it worked.
	Oh, the new gear!
	Here we go.
	Go!
	Douchebag!
	Wow.
	Cool, huh?
	Yeah, the new gear rocks.
	Douchebag.
	Anyway, he's a total dick.
	He's a total dick, and he just goes on and on and on, and he just thinks he knows everything, and he wants a dictatorship.
	And he thinks, you know, we should, you know, all four executive orders and all the rest of the, every checklist cliche you can come up with, he's like on board, which reminds me of something that I thought was the most interesting thing this week, if you don't mind Mike staying on this track.
	Which was Jon Stewart went on the Rachel Maddow show for a one-hour interview, hour and a half.
	I miss that.
	It was actually quite good.
	But essentially the message was the following.
	It came about because Stewart was roundly criticized by all the Democrats for doing that crazy thing in Washington, D.C. and not really having a message or telling people to get out and march in the streets and tear down the...
	Yeah, it was like a Twitter fest.
	That's all that it was.
	It wasn't great.
	It was comedy.
	It wasn't great.
	It wasn't bad.
	It was a comedy thing.
	It was comedy.
	But everybody was all over it.
	And so they...
	I mean, if you listen to Mad Al and you listen to...
	You had an opportunity.
	You had a tremendous opportunity.
	You squandered it.
	But she actually was fawning over his final speech.
	Because I saw that before.
	She was like, wow, that was really good.
	So he came on to tell her and everybody else on the MSNBC side that they're basically all they're doing is playing the same stupid game that everybody else is playing.
	And his whole point was, why don't you talk about corruption?
	Why are you always talking about just being a Democrat?
	Democrats are great.
	And Republicans are evil and they're liars.
	The dialogue means nothing.
	This Fox vs.
	MSNBC thing is bogus.
	It's just a distraction.
	And he's trying to make that point.
	She's paying no attention to it.
	She keeps trying to bring up Bush.
	Isn't Bush a bad person?
	You know, kind of thing.
	But she visits the White House Christmas party.
	She's not going to...
	She's a phony.
	But anyway, so Stewart makes this...
	I thought the most poignant thing he said was this particular Jon Stewart clip here.
	I thought he just nails it.
	This is kind of the theme.
	Unfortunately, he wasn't direct enough with his criticism.
	He was actually being kind of nice, and he was sick.
	He had some stomach flu.
	Right.
	Here we go.
	You know what's always great?
	A great exercise?
	Look at the difference between the top story on cable news and the top story on the newspapers.
	You'd have thought Juan Williams killed people.
	Right.
	It was everywhere.
	And what it was, the reason why it was everywhere is because it fell so beautifully into the narrative of left and right, liberal, conservative.
	It fell perfectly into the only fight that they seem to feel matters.
	And all I'm saying is, that is, in many ways, a funhouse mirror of what actually really matters.
	Right.
	Yeah, well, that is kind of what his message was at the rally for...
	Was it Rally for Insanity, whatever?
	Insanity, yeah.
	Fear.
	That's kind of what...
	You know, someone...
	I read somewhere that he is...
	A descendant of the Knights Templar.
	Which I thought was hilarious.
	What am I hearing?
	Hold on a second.
	Oh, I know.
	I have the window open.
	I'm hearing the sprinklers.
	I'm like, what is that sound?
	No, so he apparently is a descendant of the Knights Templar.
	And he had a one-hour meeting with Timothy Geithner, private meeting.
	Did you know that?
	No.
	Yeah, he had a one-hour private meeting that no one knows about.
	And by the way, did Rachel Maddow question him on it by any chance?
	No.
	No, she's in awe of him.
	Yeah, I mean, he's probably the only guy she'd blow.
	That's probably true.
	I'm not kidding.
	I'm not kidding.
	Yeah, no, I'd actually buy into that.
	I might actually do a Jon Stewart.
	And Jon Stewart would love me.
	Why not?
	I'm going to go straight.
	I can do it.
	That's your Larry King, by the way.
	Yeah, pretty good, huh?
	So anyway, the point is that these guys are just, you know, all they're doing is talking...
	They're just at the edges talking about each other.
	They're not discussing the bull crap that's going on and the real lies, which isn't, you know, it was Huckabee going on about how great PepsiCo is or whatever.
	And they're just preoccupied with each other.
	It's almost like watching...
	You know what it reminds me of?
	Star Trek people who were familiar with the old original show.
	Yes.
	There was one episode...
	We have a lot of them.
	There was one episode with Frank Gorshin where Frank Gorshin and this other guy are trying to kill each other because they hate each other because they're so different from each other.
	They have to kill each other until they're all dead.
	And the difference is one of them had the right side of his face painted black and the left side painted white.
	And the other guy had the left side painted black and the right side painted white.
	And all the people in the story...
	What are you guys fighting with?
	You guys are the same...
	No, no.
	Don't you notice?
	He's got the left side white and I've got the left side black.
	Yeah, that's always the difference.
	It was actually a very interesting show and that's what's going on and we're watching it.
	Yeah, we're watching it take place live in Technicolor, baby.
	Just on a brief side note, this is kind of funny from Gitmo Nation East.
	You were talking about PepsiCo.
	The Department of Health is now putting McDonald's and Kentucky Fried Chicken, along with PepsiCo, Kellogg's, Unilever, Mars, and Diageo, the drink people, on the panel to write government policy on obesity, alcohol, and diet-related diseases.
	I love that.
	I know.
	I have that same piece.
	That's great.
	Yeah, that's the guys you want taking care of our health.
	It's what we recommend.
	We recommend you eat more wood chips.
	Yeah, and you just throw some MSG on that wood chip.
	It'll taste wonderful.
	Not a problem.
	You'll like it.
	You will totally like it.
	Yeah, it's groovy.
	So a book I gotta get is George Bush's book, Decision Points.
	Did you see him on Larry King?
	Was he on Larry King as well?
	John?
	I'm sorry, I just got a note from Eric who says that Larry Leibowitz, John Stewart's brother, is the head of NASDAQ. Yeah, I know.
	I'm telling you.
	You knew that?
	Yes.
	These guys are like Knights Templar.
	I'm not kidding you.
	He's a descendant of the Knights Templar, and he probably went to Geithner to go talk to him about all the gold that they have that they want to bail out the world economy with.
	I'm not buying this.
	I don't think he's the head of NASDAQ. I think he's the head of the New York Stock Exchange, actually.
	I don't think it's NASDAQ. I'll look into it.
	I have it here.
	Hold on a second.
	Lebowitz is his name.
	You didn't know that?
	No.
	I know Stewart's last name is Lebowitz, but I didn't know he had a brother that was that deeply involved in financial trading.
	Well, why do you think he gets to talk with Geithner?
	Well, I'm not saying he couldn't.
	If he wanted to talk with me, I'd talk to him.
	Right.
	But, you know, Timothy Geithner, little Timmy, is supposed to be pretty freaking busy ruining us.
	Well, you don't know that he had Geithner on his show once as a guest, I believe.
	Oh, yeah.
	He probably asked him if he wanted to go out to have some lunch or something.
	So Geithner said, sure, I got nothing else to do.
	Sure.
	Let me see.
	Hold on, man.
	I got to go buy $8 billion worth of our own debt.
	Hold on a second.
	Make it 1230.
	I'm really, really busy.
	Yeah.
	Did you hear that they wanted this?
	This is amazing.
	So they're going to go buy treasury bonds, right?
	Now, isn't supply and demand, doesn't that kind of determine price?
	It should.
	But they're buying it through Goldman Sachs, so they get screwed anyway, but, you know, Sunday.
	But there was a technical glitch.
	So they were supposed to start.
	They were supposed to start the buying.
	And I actually saw, I got a CNBC alert on my iPhone that said, you know, the Treasury is supposed to buy $8 billion in bonds today.
	And there's a technical glitch.
	So you know someone made a shitload of money somewhere on some glitch on something.
	They set something up or whatever.
	You know, it's just like, wow.
	Wow.
	Just, uh, okay.
	Yeah, Larry Leibowitz is the chief operating officer at the New York Stock Exchange.
	Yeah, that's what I said.
	New York Stock Exchange, right.
	Yeah, he had an extraordinary...
	This is from Bloomberg.
	Bloomberg reports.
	Geithner.
	Geithner visited...
	Oh, visited Jon Stewart.
	It was the other way around.
	Uh...
	I think he went to the Treasury and had another meeting.
	I'll have to look that one up.
	I didn't quite come prepared, but since you brought up Jon Stewart.
	Anyway.
	Let's see.
	Now, the President is propagating the lie.
	Surprise, surprise.
	Ministry of Truth time.
	Are you with me?
	Yeah, I'm listening.
	Yeah, it's hard to tell if you're there or not.
	Everything's so quiet.
	I've got too many monitors up.
	Yeah, I know it's quiet.
	I guess I should...
	Yeah, could you breathe a little?
	Hello, John?
	Is he breathing?
	Yeah.
	So, um...
	Okay, so we've kind of beat this horse to death, but I think we should just bring it back one more time.
	This meme, and of course now it's getting pretty close to the crunch, on January 1st, or maybe it's December 31st, the so-called Bush tax cut expire.
	And this has been politicized as the Bush tax cuts for the rich.
	Which is, I learned...
	Which still irks you.
	Yes.
	Yeah, it did, because I totally bought into that.
	And it turns out that is a lie.
	Everyone got a tax cut.
	Everybody.
	But they've politicized it by saying, well, we actually want to remove the portion of the tax cuts for the rich and keep them for the middle class and lower class.
	And therefore, we're now just calling it Bush's tax cuts for the rich.
	Did I kind of categorize that correctly?
	Pretty much.
	OK, so the president comes out and just listen how I mean, he although he tells the truth, he propagates the meme.
	And it just blew me away.
	And it's funny because Mickey was listening to this in the kitchen.
	said, wow, I'm hearing this guy talk.
	He's lost all his power.
	And it's really true.
	Listen to his whole demeanor, his energy, everything is way, way down.
	With respect to the Bush tax cuts, what I've said is that I'm going to meet with Both the Republican and Democratic leaders late next week.
	And we're going to sit down and discuss how we move forward.
	My number one priority is making sure that we make the middle class tax cuts permanent.
	That we give certainty to the 98% of Americans who are affected by those tax breaks.
	So he's actually telling the truth here, which is kind of nice, right?
	Except he's already splitting it up.
	By saying, we want to keep the tax breaks for the 98% of Americans who got the tax break and are not super rich.
	Which I guess is $250,000 and below.
	So that's kind of good.
	He's telling the truth.
	No one thinks about it.
	But here we go.
	I don't want to see their income taxes spike up.
	Not only because they need relief after having gone through a horrendous recession, but also because it would be bad for the economy.
	I continue to believe that extending permanently the upper income tax cuts.
	See, this is what irks me.
	It's like...
	Were there two sets of tax cuts, John?
	No, there wasn't two sets.
	Did we have an upper tax cut and a lower tax cut?
	It's like, alright, slave A, you slave, go through door A, you slave, go through door B. It's like, it was the same tax cuts for everybody, just percentages were different.
	The problem is, of course, I want to mention something while you're discussing this, which is anyone, the $250, yeah, it sounds like a lot of money, but that includes people who, mostly small businesses.
	I don't make it, okay?
	I don't make $250.
	Most small businesses like dry cleaners and people like that, that is all part of, you know, their small business is part of their personal income tax, and essentially you're screwing the small business guy.
	I'd like to make $249,000 from this show.
	Not a penny more.
	It's possible.
	We've got a ways to go.
	Would be a mistake.
	And that we can't afford it.
	And...
	My hope is that somewhere in between there we can find some sort of solution.
	But I'm not going to negotiate here in Seoul.
	My job is for the G20, of course.
	I'm not going to negotiate here in Seoul.
	fools negotiate back in Washington with Republican He's at the G20 conference.
	It's posturing.
	I want to make sure that taxes don't go up for middle class families starting on January 1st.
	That's my number one priority.
	For those families and for our economy.
	I also believe that it would be fiscally irresponsible for us to permanently extend the high-income tax cuts.
	I think that would be a mistake, particularly when we've got our Republican friends saying that their number one priority is making sure that we deal with our debt and our deficit.
	So there he is, completely splitting up the same tax cut between rich people and not rich people.
	And, of course, the argument I always get from someone on email is, Oh yeah?
	We're capital gains, man!
	Capital gains only for rich people!
	So not if you have a 401k.
	Not if you own a home.
	Yeah.
	Or have kids.
	You know, babies.
	No, capital gains has got nothing to do with having babies.
	No, but that's part of the expiration of the tax cut would include tax breaks for kids, for having kids.
	Yeah, no, it's true.
	The expiration of the tax cut isn't just about this and that.
	It's a whole slew of things.
	It would generally add about five grand to most people's tax bill.
	Mm-hmm.
	Yeah, it includes different kinds of...
	But most people who make $250,000 or above, and I met a number of them most recently in San Francisco.
	No, we're one child family.
	Because, you know, it's good for the environment.
	It's good for biodiversity.
	It's good for the environment.
	Yeah, I hear that in Los Angeles all the time.
	No, we're just going to have one kid.
	You know, it's much greener that way.
	I swear to God.
	I always get a kick out of people that come up with this crap.
	And then they regret it when they're like 50.
	Yeah, like, damn.
	What are you talking about you regret it?
	I don't want another one of those.
	So, well, I guess they would.
	You're right.
	Most of those people wouldn't regret it.
	They didn't want to have one kid.
	They'd just rather just go off and spend the money and dial bone.
	Hookers and blow.
	Hookers and blow.
	Ah, well, speaking of hookers and blow, John.
	I'm going to show myself the mood by donating to No Agenda.
	Imagine all the people who could do that.
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	What?
	You think I'm dropping dead every once in a while?
	Yeah, you are dropping dead every once in a while.
	Let me sniff out of it.
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	So to help any bandwidth constrain you, wasn't this guy on last week?
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	Joshua Dietrich, Cary, North Carolina, $59.95.
	Good, solid show on Thursday covering the naked body scanners and biodiversity.
	Can't find this kind of programming anywhere.
	Yeah, we dropped out again.
	It drives my girlfriend crazy sometimes.
	Did I break up again?
	Yeah, we're back.
	It's alright.
	Alright, let me start over with his little comment.
	Okay, please do.
	He says he can't find this kind of programming anywhere else, period.
	Yeah.
	Do you think that's true?
	I think it's totally true.
	I think the balance that we bring to this program...
	And you know what?
	Somehow, John, I think we're at a tipping point.
	I think it's weird that we're the only people doing this.
	Well, because we're good at it.
	I don't know if you're that good at it.
	We're good at it, but it's not rocket science.
	No, but what's happening is other people are taking a cue from us, and it just can't be coincidence.
	We're so far ahead sometimes.
	Sometimes we're a little bit too far ahead.
	We've got to pace ourselves.
	But I see our memes, our ideas showing up in other media.
	It goes on.
	It goes like the Drudge Report.
	I see him picking up on a lot of stuff we do.
	And, of course, all of Washington reads Drudge Report.
	But I also hear from people, you know, like...
	No, I spoke to my brother-in-law, and it turns out he listens to the show, too.
	You know, so we're getting there.
	Our non-support ratio is still way out of whack.
	Yeah, it sucks.
	Okay, let me finish what Joshua had to say, which is now he actually questions things I hear in the media.
	He drives his girlfriend crazy, which he has to do, by the way, or otherwise they're going to drive you crazy.
	Yeah, that's true.
	He doesn't chew gum anymore.
	He used to have headaches every other week or so.
	Since I stopped chewing gum, I can't recall the last time I've had a headache.
	It's the aspartame.
	Absolutely.
	You know that Christina stopped chewing gum altogether and she feels great?
	Yeah.
	She had a pack a day, maybe two pack a day habit.
	I said, you know, you're hooked on this stuff.
	It is addictive, and it's really messing with you.
	And she just completely stopped, and she said there's a whole bunch of things.
	She just feels so much better.
	And it's hard, though.
	It's hard for a 20-year-old to stop.
	It's like heroin.
	It's really hard.
	Well, maybe not that hard.
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	That's harsh, man.
	She's listened to every show, but it's never donated.
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	He also agrees to the conclusion that if only 5% of what you say is true, we are definitely screwed.
	Or, you know, we could do something about it, perhaps.
	By the way, 5% is not the number.
	We're about 90%.
	Much higher, yeah.
	Easy.
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	We're looking into the, you know, into the...
	We're just going one step or two steps behind the story.
	It's not rocket science.
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	He's been listening for a while and felt like a douchebag, so he's sending some beer money in the hopes that we can stop to push the ban alcohol.
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	I love your show.
	I figured it was about time for a donation because I've started listening without offering up some cash.
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	Chris Slowinski.
	He actually wanted a de-douching.
	Did he?
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	Oh, de-douching.
	You've been de-douched.
	He wants some double karma too, but we'll do that when we have more time.
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	It's our good boys.
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	Supporting the show.
	Do we have a girl in there?
	I don't think so.
	Well, we have the listener who plays TSA and Passenger with her husband.
	They don't have to donate.
	They just gave me that visual.
	That was enough.
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	Widen your stance.
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	You know, that'd be kind of like the thing, you know, it's like when you're feeling kind of frisky, you just say, I'm going to try to make him like, hey baby, opt out, opt out, opt out, come on, opt out.
	You want to opt out?
	I think you want to opt out on me now, don't you?
	I'm going to search her tonight.
	Yeah, there will be a film at 11.
	Okay, um, hey, John, very interesting.
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	I hate it when we forget that part.
	It's so dumb of us.
	I know, it's stupid.
	Okay, so I'm not going to play, although I do recommend you go take a look at it, at the video.
	It's a pretty good compilation of Jon Stewart mocking the media over the Los Angeles mystery missile.
	Did you see that clip, actually, John?
	No, I missed that one.
	Maybe I should just play it for you, then.
	No, no, this is the one.
	Remember last show, I played that clip of all the compendium?
	That was all about the missile.
	Right, but this was Jon Stewart who keeps coming back in, and he winds up saying, you guys...
	That was the Jon Stewart clip.
	I just pulled Jon Stewart out of it.
	Oh, well, I think that was the most interesting part.
	What are you doing protecting Jon Stewart with Knights Templar?
	What are you doing protecting him?
	The whole thing I liked about that clip is that Jon Stewart is completely saying, oh yeah, it's an airplane, it's a contrail.
	And by the way, it's very interesting that in the busiest airspace, one of the busiest airspaces in the United States, perhaps in the world, there's only one massive contrail and not a single other contrail.
	You would think that the other planes might be throwing contrails as well.
	Yeah, I think it would beat us to death on Thursday, but continue.
	Okay.
	So I do have to get back to the missile.
	Because now, of course, the passengers have come aboard!
	Come ashore, I mean.
	Oh, right.
	The passengers.
	The passengers.
	Yeah.
	And, um, so my, I had a couple of theories, but one of them was that because of our quantitative easing, by the way, QE2, nice ship meme in there, that's another thing that just kind of hit me, um, that perhaps, uh, the Chinese did some saber rattling and popped off an electromagnetic pulse weapon and disabled this ship, and that's why, uh, you know, the confusion, the president was probably, you know, asleep or whatever, like, woke him up, what should we do?
	Fine.
	Hit the button.
	Yeah, well, time difference.
	You could have been in bed.
	And so someone hit the button and let's just send one over there and just screw with them.
	But there's a lot of fishiness going on around this ship.
	A lot of it.
	And I have a couple of clips.
	And the first one I'd like to play...
	Is about this, and this is quite amazing that journalists, actual journalists, aren't really questioning this flameless fire, which everyone speaks of, because there was a flameless fire on board.
	Now, you would think if there was an electromagnetic pulse weapon, which I know nothing about, maybe that would fry stuff?
	Is that possible, John?
	You mean like an egg?
	Well, you know, if the components don't work because of this EMP, does it go...
	Does stuff fizzle and pop and just...
	You know, when you see representations of EMP, yeah.
	You see little, like, auras around things and some crackling, perhaps.
	Well, yeah, and it stinks.
	And if you've ever smelled...
	Is it condenser?
	Oh yeah, no, definitely all the insulation would stink.
	You're right.
	So I'm thinking maybe there's something to it.
	Two clips.
	The first one is the passengers who didn't even know there was a fire.
	Now remember, these people were brought to San Diego.
	And I have proof that they were debriefed, and you will actually hear some amazing messages literally coming from these people who have been programmed by the psychological ops managers in San Diego.
	Just now they actually told us there was a fire on the boat.
	You did not know that there was a fire on the boat until...
	No, I did not know there was no fire on the boat.
	So what did they tell you why that the boat suddenly stopped on your excursion?
	They never told us what the issue was.
	All they told us was that there was smoke.
	There was lots of smoke.
	It was absolutely deplorable.
	My expectations...
	Where it completely fell through the floor.
	I expected a really nice time, and it was like Gilligan's Island or something.
	I felt like maroon on a prison ship.
	I don't know if you can call it that.
	I should have clipped this part out, actually.
	Backed up toilets, and it was just bad.
	It was really bad all the way around.
	Now, this girl who is singing this, a poor version of Gilligan's Island, she is singing this song with her eyes closed, like she is remembering the lyrics that she just wrote, but they're really hard to remember.
	But then when she's answering the questions...
	She keeps closing her eyes and literally, like she's hypnotized.
	You have to watch the video.
	It's astounding to watch.
	But you kind of hear it in her voice where she is just droning whatever she was told to say.
	Smoke fire.
	The toilets did not work.
	Our food was vegetables and fruit on the two-day return.
	The carnival was wonderful.
	The crew and everybody on it were just friendly and encouraging and big smiles and helpful all the time.
	They were great.
	They did keep us informed of how long it was going to take us to get us back to shore.
	We were surprised today when we heard that it was a fire.
	Didn't know it was a fire.
	We were quite surprised.
	No fire, just electricity went out.
	Tech telling us it was just...
	Blameless smoke.
	Blameless smoke.
	To keep us calm.
	I mean, I understand now why they were saying that, just to keep everybody calm.
	I understand now why they were saying that, just to keep everybody calm, because she was just told what to say.
	I'm telling you, these people are programmed.
	Just to keep everybody calm.
	I think they handled the situation really well, but it is a shock to kind of learn that there was a big fire.
	It was an adventure, I'll tell you that.
	Alright, now...
	Hold on a second, hold on a second.
	Before we start forgetting what these people just said...
	They're all saying the same thing, and I'm going to really bring it home to you.
	Give me 45 seconds more.
	From everything from the military, to cold water showers, to...
	To Spam, to salads every day.
	But, I mean, Carnival did a great job, you know, with just the resources they had.
	Human resources.
	I can't say enough.
	You know, the crew was great.
	A lot of things went wrong, but it was really fun.
	We went to the kids' camp.
	I met a couple of friends.
	It was just really fun.
	We took a shower.
	It's so exciting to see the land.
	Okay.
	Say what you have to say and then I'm really going to freak out.
	Well, you know, what happened to, you know, this woman goes on with fruits and salad.
	We had to eat fruits and salad.
	Oh, horrible.
	And this other guy talks about spam and said, what happened to the Hot Pockets?
	My understanding was a helicopter, you know, what are we going to feed these people?
	Hot Pockets!
	And they dropped off a bunch of hot, greasy Hot Pockets.
	And so the question remains of that.
	You remember the Hot Pockets part of this, right?
	Yeah.
	Hot Pockets.
	With the microwaves and the stoves and everything off, how do you eat Hot Pockets?
	I wish...
	You know, that is such a good question.
	So the same journalist we had dinner with the other night, I'm laying my EMP wrap on her, right?
	I'm ready for her to stand up and walk away, but again, she kind of likes it.
	She kind of likes it when I do this.
	She says, you know, because I said, you know, if they just brought everyone to San Diego to debrief them, and she said, I was listening to NPR, and of course I interject, you mean the Ministry of Truth, and I took her a second...
	And I heard this woman, she said, African-American woman, who was some spokesperson for some council something rather, who was on the cruise ship.
	And she said it was really interesting that you bring this up because you know how if you learn a word or something happens to you that you sometimes can get confused and you'll say that word instead of the word you actually meant?
	If you've really been hammered at, particularly after you've been eating salads and mayonnaise.
	So this woman is on NPR, and listen to what she says.
	Perry, once again, the Los Angeles Times, San Diego bureau chief, on the dock as the passengers came down the ramp.
	One of those who was on the ship while all this took place was Fahiza Alim.
	She is communications director for State Senator Curran Price of Inglewood, and again, a passenger on the Carnival Splendor.
	Good to have you on our program.
	Thank you for having me.
	You ever going to do this again?
	I don't know.
	I've got to debrief, decompress before I can...
	Oh!
	I've got to be debriefed.
	What's the word?
	Oh, I got decompressed.
	What?
	Debriefed.
	Debriefed.
	She was debriefed.
	I'll play this clip until you're bored of it, but it just doesn't stop.
	This again?
	I don't know.
	I've got to de...
	What's the word?
	I love that.
	What's the word they used when they were telling me what to say?
	Oh yeah, debrief.
	Debrief, decompress before I had considered going out on the restless seas again.
	Do you eat any Spam?
	No, certainly.
	Do you think anybody else did?
	Yeah, we call those sandwiches the mystery meat.
	The mystery meat sandwiches.
	Doesn't she sound like Maggie?
	A little bit?
	A little bit.
	Didn't know what you would get in between those two pieces of bread.
	Well, tell us what it was like at first.
	Tony said there was some kind of shudder to the ship?
	Yeah.
	Earthquake-like.
	In the wee hours of the morning.
	We had stated...
	Earthquake-like.
	A shudder of the entire ship.
	Hmm.
	Sounds like a flameless smoke to me.
	Pretty late.
	In the casino.
	So we were in a deep, deep sleep.
	My roommate and I, Janice, are here.
	When I felt something, you know, something...
	It was a shake.
	I don't know if I got on the tail end of it.
	Some people said it was 10-15 minutes.
	I didn't feel anything that long.
	She got debriefed, but she's very confused.
	I think she's letting things out she's not supposed to say.
	But then I heard this voice.
	You know, groggy state of mind.
	I hear this voice.
	It seemed like he was talking Arabic.
	I'm listening to, you know, too much TV. Speaking Arabic?
	That's interesting, isn't it?
	She heard her voice and she thought it was speaking Arabic.
	I mean, what were they telling her in the debriefing?
	But he wasn't...
	It didn't sound English.
	And I said, oh, terrorists have gotten it.
	That's my first waking thought.
	Isn't that crazy?
	Well, I don't know if it's crazy or not.
	So after that, then he said something like, oh, I don't know, maybe...
	First alert, something that indicated that this was serious.
	I really can't remember the words.
	I've been trying to remember them, what he said, but it was like stage one.
	That's what it was, stage one.
	Stage one EMP attack in progress.
	I think she was receiving through her fillings.
	She was receiving radio transmissions.
	Now, here's the amazing coincidence.
	As I read in USA Today...
	Not five days before this event.
	USA Today headline, one EMP burst and the world goes dark.
	Now USA Today, of course, truly the ministry of truth.
	Modern societies rely on technologies vulnerable to electromagnetic pulse effects that, if strong enough, can induce currents that burn out, burn out wires and circuits.
	And then we have some worst case scenarios.
	But I'm reading here that there's actually a bill in Congress called the Grid Act, which would protect us with all kinds of smart grid technology from an EMP attack.
	Yeah, you know, curiously, this is kind of an aside, but some studies have been done on our grid, and apparently our grid is so disconnected and screwy and screwed up and non-standard and doesn't link to each other very well and the rest of it, that we're almost immune to an EMP attack.
	Because it's so messed up that it'll fry out, you know, like South Central.
	It'll fry out a chunk.
	But that's it.
	Yeah.
	So we actually have a great grid is what you're saying.
	Well, I mean, we have a great, you know, this is again essentially a fractal of the American system, which is you have a federal government which does certain things and then you have state governments which do the rest, including most of the lawmaking.
	Which is the way it's supposed to be, even though you have to go to the Tenth Amendment crowd now to get it to go back to that sort of system.
	That's kind of the way the electrical system is set up.
	Same thing.
	You don't have one government running the whole thing.
	Because I can assure you that if the entire grid, which does sound good on paper, is all one centralized thing and everything, you just blow out that one thing.
	You blow out the whole country.
	Right now it's almost impossible to do that.
	So what's interesting, in this USA Today article, in the USA Today article, which of course, you know, someone received a press release probably about this bill, two historic incidents often figure into the discussion, and I'm amazed that they bring up Starfish Prime.
	Which, you know, many people say, oh, that's conspiracy theory.
	But now USA Today prints July 9, 1962, the Atomic Energy Commission and the Defense Atomic Support Agency detonated the Starfish Prime, a 1.4 megaton H-bomb test, at an altitude of 250 miles, some 900 miles southwest of Hawaii over the Pacific Ocean.
	The pulse shortened out streetlights in Oahu.
	Second one, and this is, we've talked about this on the show, March 9, 1989, the sun spat.
	A million mile wide blast of high temperature charged solar gas straight at the earth.
	The coronal mass ejection struck the planet three days later triggering a geomagnetic storm that made the northern lights visible in Texas.
	The storm also induced currents in Quebec's power grid that knocked out power for six million people and Canada and the USA for at least nine hours.
	That was the whole eastern seaboard that was knocked out.
	At the time.
	I remember that because it's like, oh, May East went down.
	They have no power.
	That's all that counts.
	Yeah, that's May East.
	So, they're really pushing this to the forefront and maybe it was coincidental, maybe it was at the wrong moment, but how...
	It just boggles my mind and I'm just saying, you know, it's like...
	Coincidence?
	I think not!
	When you have this article in USA Today, six days before a flameless smoke...
	And if you're frying all the wires, that's...
	And, you know, if you're in the cabin, but everyone's smelling smoke, but it was only in one engine room way down...
	This is not like a...
	This is not the minnow.
	This is a real...
	This is a huge ship.
	It's huge.
	This is huge.
	So if there's an engine fire, you're not necessarily going to smell...
	And if you're smelling smoke, you're really in trouble if it's from the engine room.
	And you never saw any video of smoke?
	There's no blackened windows anywhere?
	Nope.
	This is very, very, very suspicious.
	Yeah, where's the smoke damage?
	And the fact that they towed it into San Diego, which is not one of their ports of call by any means.
	Nope.
	Yeah, no, I think you're right.
	These people were debriefed.
	They were brought on into one after another.
	Look, here's the deal.
	We think we may have a terrorist situation here.
	We're not sure, but you have to say the following.
	You cannot say anything to anyone, and they'll make them sign something.
	So if you do one of those crazy documents, this has been documented before, people that come along, and CIA guys and the rest of them, they come along, they make you sign something that you can be arrested and And thrown in jail.
	If you discuss...
	And these contracts are around.
	We had a situation...
	I forget what that one we were talking about before, but these guys have come around and they make you sign this stuff because it's a national security issue.
	It's a national security issue.
	So you sign and you shut up and then you have a couple of people that are just kind of dingy like this woman and she's like, well, the debriefing and well...
	What's that word?
	Debriefing?
	Yeah.
	In the document, you can't talk about signing a document.
	The first rule of Fight Club.
	It's a Fight Club thing.
	Seriously, these do exist.
	They do happen all the time.
	And there's nothing you can do about it.
	The courts won't back you up.
	Nobody's going to help because it's completely out of control.
	So we're just giving a bunch of song and dance bull crap from all these people who feel they're doing the country a favor.
	Yes, yes.
	Are you a patriot?
	Are you a patriot, ma'am?
	Are you a patriot?
	You're a patriot, right?
	You are a patriot.
	We understand.
	Listen, we're going to debrief you, okay?
	Now, the first rule about debriefing is you don't talk about the debriefing.
	But you're a patriot, right, ma'am?
	You're a patriot?
	Are you a patriot?
	Yes, you're a patriot.
	Okay.
	Wow.
	So they sign off on this, and then one of the things, of course, is that people ask, you know, the crew was fantastic because they've all cooperated.
	And just make, you know, we don't want to, you know, the carnival people shouldn't have been involved in this, and so make sure that they sign, you know, say complimentary things and just be quiet about the rest of it.
	You know, read this over before you sign it, and you're okay, you're happy with this, you can do this, you can sign it.
	You know, if you don't sign it, of course, you'll be put in a jail, or you may be detained for a week.
	As we question you, but you want to sign it?
	It's voluntary.
	It's voluntary, but, you know, we might have to kill you if you don't sign it.
	Oh, wow.
	Yeah, you might be onto something.
	I mean, all the evidence in the case is something fishy about that.
	It's not being covered very well.
	It's being swept under the rug, and now I think you've got it.
	They've got their people out there making their comments.
	Oh, we were stuck with it.
	We couldn't flush the toilet, and we had to eat Spam, and the Hot Pockets thing has gone by the wayside because it doesn't make any sense.
	Hot Pockets!
	Because you can't cook them.
	And so that's been dropped from the narrative.
	And they got the narrative down.
	And now hopefully it just goes under the rug and we forget about the whole thing.
	Except for our show, of course.
	But we can say it all we want.
	They already know if anybody even listens to the show that's higher up.
	Nobody cares.
	But you know what?
	The 400,000 people who listen to the show, they care.
	And they're saved.
	You're saved, my children!
	Put your hands on your iPod and feel how you're saved.
	Well, they're saved.
	They're kind of saved.
	Now they have to argue at the cocktail party.
	That's right.
	You've got to be so careful.
	You have to be so careful.
	Please email someone to noagendashot, noagendashots.com.
	That really helps because the guy who's running that, he pulls out good quotes, good little snippets.
	It's not all the crazy stuff.
	Or what would be deemed crazy, obviously.
	That's a good way to start.
	But whatever you do, don't attack someone.
	Oh yeah, that's not true, man!
	It was an EMP! Look, that is not a way to get laid.
	It doesn't work.
	That's not going to get you laid.
	It's going to get you thrown in jail.
	It will.
	Hey, Adam and John, my name is Alex.
	I'm an 8th grader in Gitmo Nation, Great White North.
	We've got new English textbooks last year.
	It was full of environmental memes.
	This year, I haven't noticed any major global warming biodiversity memes in our books.
	With regards to genetically modified foods, this year my class had a project where we had to find three news articles to evaluate them.
	My group chose GM foods.
	I made sure to turn the project into an anti-GM food piece.
	Good way to get an F, by the way, Alex.
	Anyways, I found out that Monsanto was one of the companies that made Agent Orange, the chemical that effed everyone up in Vietnam for the U.S. military.
	Kind of freaked me out.
	From what I've noticed, the Canadian school system isn't completely indoctrinated us.
	I got a good mark on the project, by the way, and most of my classmates see through the BS anyways.
	Thanks for the great work on the show.
	And I'm very happy to hear that people are safe and sound and our young human resources are charged up and awake.
	Now, unfortunately, here in Gitmo Nation proper, I received, and these two pictures will be in the show notes, from one of our producers who went into the bookstore.
	Is this...
	I'm sorry, it's...
	No, it's a bookstore slash toy store.
	I'm not quite sure where it was.
	And there's a rack of 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 different kits.
	Now, when I was a kid, we had, at Radio Shack, I had the 101 Projects in One.
	Where you had all these components and you connected them with a red wire or a blue wire or a yellow wire or a white wire.
	When I was a kid, we actually had true, honest-to-God chemistry sets.
	Well, yeah.
	So it's very much like a chemistry set, John.
	I'm glad you bring that up.
	So here we have...
	These are all experiment kits.
	We have the solar powerhouse, we have the fuel cell X7, we have the hydropower, wind power kit, the earth lab, the genetics and DNA lab, and the global warming lab!
	It's the global warming experiment kit!
	Experiment with a model atmosphere.
	Earth's climate and climate change.
	And these are all made by Thames and Cosmos.
	And these people should be ashamed of themselves.
	And the people who display this stuff blatantly, it's such propaganda, it just blows my mind when you see it.
	Oh, the propaganda.
	I have a clip.
	The propaganda begins early.
	I want to play a...
	A clip, Rags Dumbing Down Kids.
	This is for pre-kindergarteners.
	It's a show that's on called Rags.
	It's a bunch of giant dogs.
	Just giant dogs is all I can describe it.
	They're teaching kids to make sure to use the right language.
	If they have a problem with things, they can go out and play.
	Problem.
	How big?
	Really, really big.
	And it's caused by something really, really small.
	If you've got a big problem, then let's have a big talk.
	My big problem is...
	I'm tired of my fleas.
	Fleas?
	Trilby said fleas.
	Everybody scratch!
	That's it!
	My big problem is my little friends.
	Don't see that word.
	We'll call them my little friends.
	I don't understand it.
	My little friends are so tiny.
	How can such a tiny thing cause such a huge itch?
	I know what will take your mind off it.
	Let's play!
	Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
	Let's vote for jobs!
	It's the same one.
	Yeah, it sounds like the same kids.
	I found that disturbing.
	Do tell.
	I mean, they're telling kids, like, you know, use the right language.
	Don't say anything.
	Fleas is not a good word.
	You want to use this other word.
	So everyone agrees to that.
	So they call them little friends, which is nicer.
	Right.
	And then when it becomes a serious issue, just ignore it.
	Go out and play.
	Shut up.
	Let's go play.
	This show is unbelievable.
	Yeah.
	I don't know.
	I was upset by...
	No, no.
	I hear you.
	I was upset by...
	I read this on...
	What was it?
	CBS News.
	Talk about being a slave.
	And by the way, the science is in on this.
	Science!
	Science!
	A wandering mind makes you sad.
	A new study, it's always a new study, suggests a wandering mind makes you sad.
	Unlike animals' minds, the human brain seems hardwired to wander, according to the study.
	I need to look up the study from sciencemag.org.
	Found that people spend 47% of their waking hours thinking about something other than what they're doing.
	Yeah, like porn.
	As far as our emotional state is concerned, that's not a good thing.
	You need to be focused on what you're doing, slave.
	A human mind is a wandering mind, and the wandering mind is an unhappy mind, concluded Matthew A. Killingsworth and Daniel T. Gilbert, authors of the study published in the November 12th issue of Science.
	Hold on.
	Science?
	Do we have some science?
	The science is in!
	The ability to think about what is not happening is a cognitive achievement that comes at an emotional cost.
	And this is, Killingsworth is a doctoral student in psychology at Harvard, and Gilbert is the psychology professor there.
	Just what sort of places does the mind wander, John?
	Well, I'm glad you asked.
	Reminiscing and rueing past events, looking forward to or fearing things that might happen in the future.
	This is amazing to me.
	It's like, don't think of fond memories, and don't be afraid.
	Don't be worried about what's happening in the future.
	Just get to work and concentrate on the job at hand.
	Just tighten that bolt, will you?
	Shut up, slave.
	That's all you need to do.
	Outrageous.
	You'll be happier just tightening the bolt.
	Just tighten the bolt.
	Maybe you need some Soma.
	Here, this will help you.
	Great bit of science there.
	Totally loved it.
	Well, I'm sure everyone's in on that one.
	I got some real news if you get bored.
	Sure, I'm never bored.
	I'm wandering.
	And now, back to real news.
	I'm sorry, John.
	I was ruing on the past.
	I was wandering in the past.
	So there's a bunch, there's a couple, the Asian Games are going on in Asia, in China, and of course the Chinese are winning everything, but there's a bunch of interesting things, including some sports I've never heard of that are huge in China, and let's play the one, the top one, Asian Games, there's a thing called sport dancing that's got to hit it here eventually, or in the Olympics.
	Silver, third place, went to Hong Kong.
	Sport dancers Liang Yujie and Xun Hong set a milestone for China.
	They won gold in the tango competition on Saturday.
	This was China's 1,000th gold medal since the country debuted at the Asian Games in 1974.
	The pair also took the standard waltz title at Guangzhou.
	Janet, what is this?
	Now, China's men's football team is making a nice comeback.
	Hey, you know what?
	Finally, an Olympic sport I can participate in.
	Who won the Boogaloo?
	That's what I like to know.
	This is great.
	Who thought that Bristol Palin could be an athlete at the Asian Games?
	This is fantastic.
	I love it.
	They have ice dancing.
	They call it sport dancing.
	Can you dance?
	I can dance.
	It's tiring.
	By the way, I want to mention this.
	I don't dance much, but when I was a kid, when I was in the olden days, when schools actually taught people stuff, one of the things you learned in the second, third, and fourth grade, they made you learn how to do different dances.
	You had to know how to do the tango and the mambo and the rumba and square dancing and everything in between.
	It was just part of it.
	Do you remember when I was a kid, John?
	Oh, we shouldn't be ruing on the past because it'll make us unhappy.
	I'm already sad.
	I'm not worried about it.
	But I will say, we used to have typing class.
	Yeah, we did too.
	Yeah, and then you could become a Kelly girl.
	Well, that's true, but the point is, it was practical.
	But there's a lot of stuff they don't even bother with.
	They just put the kids in the room, the yak about, you know, Obamacare and how great it is, and a bunch of political crap.
	I mean, my kids, when they were going to these local schools, were being told that Christopher Columbus is only over here to do slave trading.
	That's right.
	Good guy.
	I mean, that's the kind of stuff you get in Berkeley.
	And that's why you homeschooled him.
	Thank goodness.
	There's another couple of interesting clips from the same...
	Asian games?
	Asian games.
	Play wushu action.
	That sounds hot, actually.
	I think I'm going to get me some wushu action right after the show.
	The stands of the wushu venue, packed with Chinese, excited to see the finest practitioners of the art in action.
	Wushu originated in China, and I like it very much.
	I think no other country can exceed China in terms of Wushu.
	Well, seeing as we don't know what the F it is, how are you going to beat me at Wushu?
	Wushu is a sport, apparently a famous Chinese sport, that is essentially a combination of karate exercises combined with the floor dance they do in gymnastics where they tumble, tumbling.
	You know the tumbling?
	Yeah, that's what we call horsing around.
	So they're jumping around, but the weirdest thing about wushu, which makes it kind of funny to watch, is they're doing the karate moves, and then they're tumbling and kicking while they're tumbling, and then they scream.
	Yeah, exactly.
	Like the Bruce Lee movie.
	Really?
	Yeah, it's the funniest sport to watch.
	I mean, there's another little clip here about it, I think the wushu clip.
	Yeah, wushu action.
	STF is wushu.
	I bet you Equinox Gym teaches this.
	Could be.
	That's typically something that those rich Hollywood women would love.
	Let's check out some...
	Hey, baby, I'm going to get me some wushu action.
	Now, moving on to wushu action at the Asian Games.
	The first day of competition in Guangzhou is in the books.
	It's a chance for the continent to profile many of its unique sports that a lot of Western audiences don't get a chance to look at.
	The Chinese art of wushu is one of the most famous Asian sports at the games.
	As Jonas Gilbert finds out, the rest of Asia has a lot of catching up to do.
	Game, stop it.
	I didn't hear any wushu action.
	So anyway, so these guys are jumping around and screaming, which is the sport.
	But the funny thing, I'm just putting this out there for people who care about any of this crap, which is...
	So I'm watching another show.
	I'm going through the channels.
	And by the way, the National Geographic channel has become the spokesperson for this.
	Ministry of Truth, completely.
	When did that happen?
	Oh, it happened a while ago when they had that big three-hour documentary-slash-type drama.
	That was about, you know, it was the diary.
	It's 2017 and the earth is melted down.
	That's really when I noticed that they had completely on board and then they wind up this documentary.
	What the hell was the name of that thing?
	Someone in the chat room will know.
	They have, you know, all of the carbon credit shills in there.
	Everyone was in there, including...
	Well, they've been taken over somehow.
	I don't know who.
	Maybe Discovery owns them.
	I think they're part of it.
	But anyway, so I'm watching this, and Brazil, if anyone follows martial arts, has a version of karate that they've developed.
	It's been developed for years, and they apparently like to do this dance exercise, which is exactly wushu.
	But I don't think they know it, and they're not competing on the wushu level.
	They're not competing with the Chinese.
	But I was watching this, and it's the same thing, by the way.
	This includes jumping way up in the air, flipping over, and then landing in the splits, and then doing a karate move and screaming.
	Yeah, well, the screaming is when you land in a split.
	Yeah, wushu!
	Wushu probably means, fuck, my balls hurt in Chinese or something.
	So the Brazilians should get their act together and go compete with these.
	All right.
	My final thing for this real news segment is we haven't done this for a while and I think maybe our donations are down because I haven't done this.
	Wait, Hawaii Five-0 clip?
	Yeah, just a little bad acting.
	Natalie, what are you doing?
	She's one of them, Dad!
	No, no, no!
	Shut up!
	That sounds like my episode of Swamp Thing.
	No, no, no, no!
	Now he's one of them!
	See, your father has not been very cooperative, but now when you're here, maybe you can talk some sense into him, eh?
	Tell him to do what you want.
	All right, all right, all right, all right!
	You win.
	I'll do what you want.
	Just please don't hurt my son!
	Dad!
	Leave him alone!
	Shut up!
	Sit down!
	Yeah, that's awesome.
	It's like, what?
	Can you guys maybe try to do a storyline here or something that's got something besides a bunch of guys going yes, no, and dad?
	Along those lines, a survey study shows something just came out.
	The science is in!
	There's a breakdown of...
	And by the way, I have to keep explaining to our foreign listeners.
	The United States of Gitmo Nation does not exist of people who are only red or blue, or Republican or Democrat, them, they, and us, and you, and we...
	But they broke it down.
	Popular Republican shows versus popular Democrat shows.
	Yeah, this is part of that narrative Jon Stewart was talking about we mentioned earlier in the show.
	And I don't believe this for a second, by the way.
	So, Glenn Beck is the number one most popular Republican show.
	I don't think so.
	I don't think he gets...
	I mean, his ratings are good.
	His ratings are outstanding, but how many people total are actually watching him?
	It's a certain kind of Republican and Libertarians, and some Democrats.
	It's bullcrap.
	Right.
	But it says the poll was released...
	It examines television viewing habits broken down by political affiliation.
	So this must be only registered voters.
	Number one for Democrat shows, too bad it got cancelled.
	Countdown with Keith Olbermann.
	That's the number one Democrat show.
	It didn't get cancelled.
	No, he got cancelled temporarily.
	No, he's back.
	I know, just temporarily.
	But interesting, for Republican shows...
	But NCIS at number 11 doesn't show up at all on the Democrats.
	The Democrats actually watched Law& Order Special Victims Unit, also at number 11, which I thought was kind of interesting.
	Mad Men, number two for Democrats, The Amazing Race, number two.
	What is The Amazing Race?
	What is that?
	It's a reality TV show where these people have to go from place to place to place, and they're timed.
	Usually they're going all over the world, and then when they get to their spot where they finally...
	Oh, yeah, I've seen that.
	It's like a car rally, only just worldwide.
	But the real problem, if we were to take this to heart, and if we actually believed in it, which of course we don't, The real problem is, at number four for popular Democrat shows, Kourtney and Khloe take Miami.
	What?
	Yes, the Kardashians.
	So, let me just say that the Kardashians are ruining our country.
	You wouldn't be the only one thinking that, by the way.
	They are ruining our country.
	Now, the sad thing is, after I finally watch an episode...
	After you said, oh, my hairdresser.
	Hairdresser.
	My hairdresser.
	My barber.
	And you and many other people said, you've got to watch Rubicon.
	This is a great show.
	Canceled.
	Oh, yeah.
	Canceled!
	Well, that was a foregone conclusion after the show began.
	It was too...
	Too close to home.
	Too close to home.
	It was.
	If you want to ever watch it, I'm sure it'll be out on DVD and people can watch it then without the interruptions.
	But I thought it was bringing up too much inside stuff that was not healthy.
	Yeah, it was not according to the Ministry of Truth guidelines.
	It was not very smart.
	Interesting article in the Mail Online, which I think kind of corroborates our theory that WikiLeaks is pretty much a mouthpiece and connected to the CIA. Billionaire newspaper magnate Alexander Lebedev could have been targeted in a raid by Secret Service agents as a warning against cooperating with WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange to expose Russian corruption.
	So I think what the CIA are doing now is setting up WikiLeaks to expose them as a Russian infiltrated KGB outfit.
	I think that's what this is about.
	So you think they're doing a little reverse psychology with this bust?
	Yeah.
	Makes sense.
	It could be.
	A lot of the time, I want to mention to people that listen to the show a lot, when we look at disinformation campaigns, typically they're being done by professionals that are actually many times smarter than we are.
	And that's not hard.
	It's not beyond the realm of possibility that we can be fooled, even though I think we're pretty good at avoiding it.
	But at least we notice it, that possibility, like I'm doing right now.
	Well, here's one that I found amazing.
	Do you know which company, which huge publishing empire is in bankruptcy?
	Well, who?
	The publisher of National Enquirer.
	They're in bankruptcy?
	How can that be?
	They're in bankruptcy.
	So they publish the National Enquirer and star a billion dollars in debt.
	Wow.
	A billion dollars in debt.
	So I think they must have messed something up.
	Either they outed the wrong person or they weren't playing along because this is so well known that the CIA and the National Enquirer are connected.
	This is not something we're just making up.
	John and Adam here, you know, rueing on the past.
	They do continue to publish, by the way.
	This is American Media.
	They also publish Shape and a couple other magazines.
	And they're trying to restructure their debt, but they're filing, I think they've already filed, this is November 1st, so I think by now they've filed Chapter 11 bankruptcy.
	Pretty amazing, right?
	Yeah, it's odd.
	Well, I also will say that when it comes to smut and gossip...
	Not smut, but actually insider dope.
	Well, yeah.
	They got some smut.
	You know what?
	Maybe...
	Didn't they do the whole Obama gay thing?
	Didn't they do that?
	It may have been in there.
	There was another...
	That would do it.
	That would finish him off.
	Yeah, it was a funny article about our president.
	And it's in CNN. It's titled, No Need for iPad, Obama Has Human Apps.
	It's the new version of human resources.
	It's the human app.
	And because he was in Korea...
	And, uh, let's see, uh, the Thai Prime Minister Abhisit Vijajiva, We had a little talk there, and a reporter overheard Obama saying, So, Abisit, do you like your iPad?
	The Thai leader nodded and asked Obama if he had one.
	His response?
	Well, these days I mostly have someone carrying my books, so that's my iPad, Obama said, referring to personal aide Reggie Love.
	And this is the guy that people say is his gay lover.
	Reggie Love?
	Yeah, Reggie Love.
	Huh.
	Yeah.
	I think we talked about it on the show.
	You know who...
	I don't remember the name.
	I mean, I would have remembered the name Reggie Love.
	No, we did, because it was like some big Chicago connection we were talking about, and Reggie Love came up.
	And you know who...
	You can only guess who's been talking about this.
	The aware of the sealed records...
	It's our Mac Daddy!
	Just to lighten the show up, I think we should play some Reverend Manning, who...
	Listen to this.
	His birth certificate, of course, allegedly in a vault in Honolulu.
	A ton of other records from Columbia College, Occidental College, and even...
	This is really funny.
	...that he was alleged to have...
	In fact, the Reverend Manning agrees with one of your assertions, John, which I think you will enjoy immensely.
	...in the president of the Harvard Law Review...
	Yet, any articles that he would have had to write in order to attain that position have all been sealed.
	So, we don't know an awful lot about the man, but let me tell you what we do know.
	We do know this, that he is a chain smoker, that he constantly smokes cigarettes, and that he has not been able to kick that habit.
	During the campaign, the primary in the general election, he tried to hide it, but recognized that it just could not be done, being a chain-smoke.
	This is actually, I'm almost thinking an end-of-show clip, because the whole thing is so funny.
	Why don't you save it for the end of the show?
	We can do that.
	You're right.
	I'm going to save this for the end of the show, but anyway, he gets into the whole Reggie Love thing, and he does it in a way that is so, I have to say, logical.
	And it's hilarious.
	So that'll be end of show clip.
	So what is it that he agrees with that I've said?
	Oh, that it's amazing that not a single woman has ever come forward and said, yeah, I'd tap that ass.
	And not a single one.
	And he's right.
	I mean, Obama's a stunningly beautiful man.
	And by the way...
	There's a book deal in it.
	For who?
	Oh yeah, for anyone who did it.
	That's right.
	Come on out.
	Yeah, there's a book deal in it.
	Yeah, a huge book deal.
	I tapped that ass.
	I'm going to write this book.
	Yeah, I tapped that ass.
	That's a great book.
	And I think I shall do that.
	Yeah, I tapped that ass.
	I'm liking it.
	So, okay.
	Anyway, you said it enough.
	Can I say I tapped that ass one more time?
	I think you've said it 20 times already.
	I don't know why.
	Because I like saying, tap that ass.
	Apparently, yes.
	So, anything else you want to talk about?
	I got a couple of little off-the-wall clips.
	Let me just scan real quick.
	Do we need to talk about the pedophile manual for sale on Amazon?
	Yeah, you know, that's a nothing-to-see-here moment as far as I'm concerned.
	I agree.
	I agree.
	It's embarrassing to Amazon, and they didn't handle it poorly.
	Why did it show up?
	I mean, who's this guy?
	The whole thing seems like a planted story.
	Yeah, there's a couple of links for Trains Good, Planes Bad, but I don't think it's worth...
	Oh, there is one...
	You know what?
	It is worth...
	Yeah, this actually is kind of worth playing the jingle.
	Hold on a second, and I will bring this story up for you.
	What did you just do?
	All aboard!
	Trains good!
	Planes bad!
	Woo-hoo!
	So, the French have to...
	Everyone's got to get in on the action on all this money that's being spent on high-speed rail.
	Right.
	And the French, of course, have t'es-je-va, John.
	You know, t'es-je-va.
	This is how Chris Matthews pronounces it.
	It's Tajava.
	They have Tajava.
	They're really smart.
	They have Tajava.
	But, of course, you ain't going to get no contract because, you know, the French, you know, it's like the French real network.
	They're not on board with something.
	Well, they deported 76,000 Jews during the Second World War, so the French have finally come out and said, hey, we're sorry about that.
	Now can we have a contract?
	Yeah, since you're doing a deal with the Germans who we exported them to?
	Yeah, he says this is the president of SNCF, which of course is an acronym for something.
	The French National Railway, actually.
	Yeah, Saint-Jean-France.
	National Conference expressed its profound sorrow and regret for the consequences of its actions of transporting people to their deaths.
	And can we have the contract now?
	Hey, can we have that contract?
	I just thought that was hilarious.
	They would do the better job if this was actually about passenger transportation.
	Yes.
	Well it will be about that kind of passenger transportation.
	They absolutely will be transporting us to the camps.
	And there's no doubt in my mind about that.
	But in general, it'll be about transporting goods and stuff from China right to your door.
	Stuff from China.
	Yeah.
	So, I think...
	Let me just...
	I would love to wind up with a couple of your clips.
	Let's see.
	It looks like Z got a $300 million contract in Kyrgyzstan, which is known as Gitmo Nation Kyrgyzstan, because we have no idea what they do there.
	Gitmo Nation lowlands, apparently the most...
	I'm interested in their human resources of all nations globally for a tiny country of only, well they have now, actually they're moving up there.
	They've got like 17 million people in a country the size of Rhode Island.
	But apparently they do like 3 million phone taps a year.
	What's going on there?
	Al-Qaeda's probably had it.
	Al-Qaeda of the lowland peninsula.
	3 million phone taps a year.
	Wow.
	Wow.
	Gitmo Nation Kiwi.
	Little notice bill, a threat to freedoms.
	A big shout-out to our 4.2 million New Zealanders.
	As they stand to lose some hard-won freedoms under a bill moving largely under the radar through Parliament, the Search and Surveillance Bill...
	We'll remove an important civil liberty and expand state liberties for authorities ranging from the police to the Department of Internal Affairs.
	See, this stuff is always great when you have an earthquake and they've had 80 earthquakes.
	You know, when people are all, like, shaking around.
	They had one this morning, to be honest about it.
	Yeah, yeah.
	They're just shaking around.
	It's like, ooh, let's just rush this thing in.
	The right to remain silent will fall to a new coercive power, the examination order, forcing people alleged to have knowledge of fraud or organized crime.
	You must talk to police.
	Another innovation, the production order, allows police to demand that innocent individuals or organizations hand over materials that might or might not relate to an offense carrying penalties of five or seven years minimum jail.
	Let's go fishing!
	Exactly.
	Failure to comply would automatically attract, this is well written, Attract a penalty of up to $40,000 or imprisonment.
	And the bill gives authorities an invitation to force the news media to reveal confidential sources threatening the public.
	What is going on down there?
	Why do they need this kind of fascism?
	It's 4 million people and 20 million sheep!
	I mean, I love our Gitmo Nation Kiwi producers, but you guys need to riot over this, man.
	This is outrageous.
	The news media has to reveal confidential sources threatening the public airing of some of the country's most important and uncomfortable news stories.
	Now, of course, the Law Society and Human Rights and Civil Liberties advocates are up in arms about it, but it's already been revised after two rounds of select committee consultation, yet its shifts of rights from the citizen to investigation authorities remains.
	Gitmo Nation Kiwi people, start sending some stories about this because I'm annoyed, obviously, but flabbergasted that this is taking place in such a nice, fun-loving, small...
	It's a community!
	Not much of one, apparently.
	Give One Nation Kiwi is like a city to us.
	They've been taken over by whoever's behind this.
	It's a takeover.
	This is a coup.
	It really is.
	It's a coup d'etat.
	It really, really is.
	Do you want to do your George Bush clip about his mom?
	Well, the George Bush clip is kind of interesting because this was actually introduced on the Rachel Maddow show where she says Bush was deceitful and he was lying and he was mean and all this.
	And I'm listening to the clip.
	This is the Today Show.
	He's a meanie.
	He's a mean prick.
	He was a douchebag, no doubt.
	Well, that's true.
	But so they put the clip on it.
	I'm thinking the guy is a laugh riot.
	He's actually quite funny in this clip.
	And what is she?
	I don't understand where she's coming from.
	This woman needs to go get some therapy.
	But this is Bush.
	Bush is on a book tour in this country because it's a $7 million advance he got.
	Part of the deal is you sign off and when they get an advance like that, they can run you ragged from show to show to show to show.
	So he's just pushing his book and he will disappear from the public view as soon as his book tour is over, which will probably be in about a month after he does all the local radio shows.
	I think he only had to do like 14 days and he can do all phoners on the radio shows.
	He probably will do phoners mostly, but he's been doing, he was Don O'Reilly.
	Hey, John and Adam, I listened to that No Agenda show.
	Nice try.
	Yeah.
	Okay, that's your imitation of Jon Stewart doing Bush.
	You wanted to be a uniter.
	Along came 9-11, and you did something that a lot of people thought was a real effort to unite.
	You reached out to the Muslim world, and you visited a mosque, and you said the following, quote, the face of terror is not the true face of Islam, and you said, quote, in our anger and emotion, our fellow Americans must treat each other with respect.
	You know there is a major controversy brewing here in New York City downtown where there's a proposed Islamic community center sited for just two blocks from ground zero.
	If I look at your words there, it makes it seem to me as if you're saying that the rights of Muslims should not be denied for the sake of the sorrow of others.
	Is that fair?
	If I listen to what you're trying to rope me into, you're trying to get me to talk about this mosque issue...
	Which is fair.
	Again.
	I know, I tried the other day, too, didn't I? Why wouldn't you speak out?
	Because there's a lot of rhetoric.
	There's a lot of events and a lot of opportunities for me to speak out over the next years, and I have chosen not to.
	And the reason I've chosen not to is I don't want to intrude upon my successor's ability to get the job done.
	Inevitably, if you were able to get me to answer this question, they will then compare that answer to what President Obama or other...
	Well then, without saying whether they should build the community center or not, are you disappointed by the increase in anti-Muslim rhetoric in this country that we've seen?
	I think most Americans welcome freedom of religion and honor religions.
	I truly do.
	The problem with the arena today is a few loud voices can dominate the discussion, and I don't intend to be one of the voices in the discussion.
	You know where Matt Lauer started?
	No.
	VH1. Oh, really?
	Yeah.
	He was a VJ, like you?
	Yeah.
	He makes about $10 million a year.
	Yeah.
	Well, he's lost all his hair.
	So, you know, just like you get some, you lose some.
	Yeah, you know what?
	You got a choice?
	I'll keep the hair.
	I mean, he's basically not doing anything with all that money.
	He just sits and works all day.
	He gets up at four in the morning so he can get to the studio.
	Power to him.
	But I remember Matt Lauer.
	He started at VH1 along with Tim the Birdman.
	Yeah.
	That's a funny guy.
	Some DJ. Hey everybody, good morning and welcome to VH1. It's Tim the Birdman.
	Hey Birdman, how you doing?
	And Matt Lauer's on VH1. He wasn't on VH1 very long, and then he got some gig over at NBC, but he was doing like color commentary, and now he's like a journalist.
	Yeah, kind of.
	I mean, his interviewing skills are fair.
	They're not great, because in fact, he had Bush at an hour special.
	Well, he's the hard hitter now, right?
	Because he asked the tough questions.
	Yeah, but they're not tough enough, and he's not good enough to trick Bush into actually giving the answer that he was looking for, which is some answer about the victory mosque.
	Bush is no dummy.
	But I have to read this book, because I'm reading about how his mom, Barbara Bush...
	This is horrible.
	Had a miscarriage, put the fetus in a mason jar, and showed it to him.
	Yeah, that's what I heard.
	That's weird.
	It's weird.
	It's like not okay.
	No, I don't think so.
	No, that book probably should be read, and it would fit in nicely with the, what was the other Bush book that we read?
	Family Secrets?
	Family of Secrets about some of the screwy stuff.
	Yeah, I think I'm going to read it.
	Which has been suppressed, by the way, that book.
	Listeners to our show, go read that book.
	Yeah, No Agenda Book Club, please take note.
	Although they already know that.
	And I wonder if in the book he talks about his grandfather, George Prescott Bush, who financed the Nazis.
	That would be cool if he said, hey, you know, my grandpa helped exterminate him.
	That's good, huh?
	That's good.
	George Prescott Bush financed the Nazis.
	Well known.
	That's a fact.
	He was one of the financiers.
	He's not the only one.
	No, of course he wasn't the only one.
	There was a lot of pro-fascist people.
	Many of them, again, like I said, it was an intellectual movement when it began.
	And it had a lot of intellectuals, a lot of smart money.
	And, you know, that's what you see.
	You got what you wanted, which is what Michael Moore wants, which is a dictatorship that just runs rampant over you.
	Because once you set it up, you're screwed.
	You can't get rid of it.
	I have one important clip that I neglected to play, which is very, very important.
	And I'm sorry, this goes back to the indoctrination of our children.
	A very important move.
	This past Monday, as the Chancellor of the New York City Schools, Joel Klein, resigned.
	Okay, now this is the guy who's in charge of the schools, in charge of the Ministry of Truth that is teaching your children in New York City.
	And Mayor Bloomberg brought in a new shill.
	Do you know who he brought in?
	You've met her.
	Yeah, this is a good one.
	You've met her?
	No.
	I thought you met her.
	I thought you had met her once.
	Well, what's her name?
	Catherine Black.
	Oh, Catherine Black from the Hearst Corporate.
	Yes!
	Publisher of USA Today, chairwoman of Hearst Magazine.
	So, first of all, Joel, this is amazing, okay?
	You've got to think, now these people determine, or at least they approve, but let's just say they determine the curriculum for your children.
	What they are going to be taught and what they are learning in school.
	So Joel Klein...
	Go ahead.
	She was the head of all Hearst Magazine, which is, you know, good housekeeping.
	Glamour, you name it.
	Yeah, a million of them.
	Yeah.
	But Joel Klein has accepted a position at News Corp.
	So it's like a revolving door.
	And your kids are just getting the...
	It's the Ministry of Propaganda.
	I do have a small piece...
	You know, it's that Michael Savage that brought this up years ago with this.
	He said the military-industrial complex holds a backseat to the publishing government complex or the government-media complex.
	The mainstream media complex.
	Yeah, this is bullcrap.
	This is the reason, by the way, for people out there still listening to the show since we're running a little late here.
	Yeah.
	It's Dvorak.org slash NA. Keep us doing this broadcast because we have nothing but good information here for you.
	And I just want to say thank you so much for your support of the show.
	I have taken a leap of faith.
	I have hired an intern, a paid intern.
	So I'm actually going to pay him some money.
	Kevin the Blade, the Canuck.
	From Canada.
	He's moving down from Toronto.
	He's going to live with his girlfriend at USC. I think she's going to film school.
	He's going to live with her and work here so that I can free up some time to spend more time on the show so that your support is incredibly welcome.
	Now, I'm taking a leap of faith because it's basically money that I would use to pay bills so we can do more and do better on the show.
	Let's just create another bill.
	Yeah.
	Anyway, let's listen to this quick clip, and then we'll wrap it all up.
	Interesting case of musical chairs being played out in New York City today.
	The city's schools chief, Joel Klein, is stepping down to go to work for the world's biggest media company, Rupert Murdoch's News Corporation, of course.
	Klein is going to be replaced by a media type, Kathleen Black, the head of Hearst Magazines and the former publisher of...
	Interesting it says Kathleen.
	I think it's Catherine, isn't it?
	Everyone calls her Kathy Black, I think.
	I thought it was Catherine.
	Okay, Kathy.
	I don't know.
	I can't say it today.
	Marketplace's Sarah Gardner has more.
	News Corp declined to give details of Joel Klein's new job description, only that he'd be helping the media giant develop business strategies for the emerging educational marketplace.
	Oh, isn't that convenient?
	So he leaves his school chancellor, and it's kind of secret, but he'll be developing, let me see, books for children!
	Yeah, this is like Chertoff helping develop this bank.
	This is corruption at its core.
	Nice.
	So what?
	A new chamber for Murdoch Charter Schools?
	A person close to the company says no, Murdoch is not interested in managing school systems, but providing seed money for small startups.
	And media analyst Claire Enders speculates that may include online education products for the iPad and other internet tablets.
	Textbooks, learning tools, testing tools, exam tools.
	Probably the single biggest growth area in education is completely digital.
	Biggest gross area.
	Did she not say gross area as in gross profits?
	She said growth.
	Oh, growth.
	Well, same thing.
	Growth.
	Commercial, making money off of indoctrinating your kids with the right message.
	Well, if a school leader like Joel Klein can help a media titan like Murdoch make money off education, what can a media exec like Kathleen Black bring to the New York schools?
	Well, nothing good.
	Media analyst Gary Arlin believes it's more than just budgeting skills and fundraising connections.
	The public sector is recognizing the value of media as part of the culture and the way people learn and bringing in people who understand how to communicate, especially to young students.
	It's, I think, a very, very forward-looking idea.
	New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg thinks so.
	He said Black's business savvy makes her the perfect schools leader.
	The mayor may need to persuade a few folks of that notion.
	The New York Daily News today described Black as a Park Avenue exec who sent her kids to a fancy boarding school.
	Yeah, you know.
	You know it.
	It's just outrageous.
	It is outrageous.
	That really, really angers me.
	Yeah, she probably doesn't even know what a public school looks like.
	And no one sees this.
	You know, what's going to happen next?
	We couldn't get somebody who actually had qualifications?
	You know what's going to happen next?
	The kids are going to be forced to listen to NPR in school.
	Oh, yeah.
	Oh, yeah, you watch American Public Media.
	You know, big, taking commercials from Monsanto, good...
	It just blows me away.
	Let's do another hour.
	Another hour?
	Yeah, we could.
	Easily.
	You want to do one more clip and then we'll leave and we'll do our end of film?
	No, I'm going to save these clips for the next show.
	Okay.
	And the only one I had a carryover, which is the Bush clip, which I thought was amusing.
	And we got some stuff on the Doomsday Plane, the E4B, which I thought was interesting, again, on the National Geographic show, so it was official.
	It was approved by the government.
	The Doomsday Plane?
	Yeah, the Doomsday Plane.
	And we'll talk about that on Thursday.
	Ooh, that sounds nice.
	Well, I think...
	Oh, by the way, we're talking about the Doomsday Plane.
	Yeah.
	We're talking about EMF and some of these things that can go on.
	I think we must have some listeners out there that are woodworkers or people like that.
	You know, to create a little...
	Probably bigger than little, but a little box, which is actually a Faraday cage.
	It would be wooden with a liner, like a copper liner.
	That would be like a Faraday cage.
	And then maybe with some access holes...
	So you put your phone in there and close it up, and you can maybe put the charge cord in there somehow.
	Well, I've got the answer.
	This is what the freeholobooks.com guy should be doing.
	That would work.
	It would be perfect.
	You need a Faraday cage, and so if an EMF pulse bangs into your house and shakes you for 15 minutes, I didn't know they did that, but could be.
	Could be, yeah.
	Your cell phone will still be working, although the towers will probably all be down.
	Well, maybe we should just get walkie-talkies and put them in there.
	Well, I'm getting my technician license next Friday, or at least I'm going to pass it.
	No, no, you're not really, are you?
	Yeah, then I'm going to, I'm getting the general, first I'm going to get the technicians.
	You're actually following through on this?
	Yeah, and I got the test aced.
	You rock, man.
	I've taken every variation.
	Oh, you rock.
	So now I'm just going to have, I'm going to try to pass the general test to, so I can do two of them, but if I don't, I'll do the general in a couple of weeks after that.
	You rock, dude.
	No, I'm going to have to do it too.
	I can't be lagging behind.
	No.
	Everyone should go out and get a technician license.
	If you know anything about computers, you already know half the answers.
	Well, everybody, certainly a fun show.
	Remember, we have the Mac Daddy, Reverend Manning, coming up with a post-show clip.
	The Obama We Know is the title of the clip.
	Link in the show notes at NoAgendaShow.com.
	And coming to you from the brand new Hilltop Watchtower Crackpot Command Center Studios with special thanks to Miss Mickey for giving up her gym.
	I love you, baby.
	And I love you, John.
	I'm Adam Curry.
	And from the Buzzkill Bunker in northern Silicon Valley where everyone is rich except me.
	I'm John C. DeVore.
	We'll talk to you again on Thursday for early morning service right here on No Agenda.
	All of us are acutely aware of the sealed records of Obama.
	Everything from his baptismal certificate, marriage license, why he was disbarred by the Illinois bar.
	His birth certificate, of course, allegedly in a vault in Honolulu.
	A ton of other records from Columbia College, Occidental College, and even that he was alleged to have been the president of the Harvard Law Review.
	Yet, any articles that he would have had to write in order to attain that position have all been sealed.
	So we don't know an awful lot about the man, but let me tell you what we do know.
	We do know this, that he is a chain smoker, that he constantly smokes cigarettes, and that he has not been able to kick that habit.
	During the campaign, the primary and the general election, he tried to hide it but recognized that it just could not be done, being a chain smoker on long flights from one campaign stop to another.
	So he singled out Anderson Cooper of CNN after the election was taking place and the inauguration.
	Recognizing now that he's got to smoke in the White House.
	He cannot go outside on the White House grounds where people can visibly see him or up on the roof and smoke, that he's actually got to smoke in the White House.
	Everybody now knows, since the Anderson Cooper interview, that he is a smoker.
	What they are not aware of is that a special room has been conducted, one of the bathrooms, have been now orchestrated or conducted to be a smoking room for the alleged President of the United States.
	That's number one.
	Number two of things that we know about Obama is this, is that we know that he is legally, lawfully married to what, who was Michelle Robinson, I now refer to as Michelle, the fist bumper Obama.
	But what we don't know is any other woman on planet Earth that has had anything to do in a romantic, dating way with what is a 6'2", strapping, relatively handsome, well-spoken, very aggressive and forward-thinking and intellectual black man.
	Yet there's only one woman on the planet entirely that we are aware of that has ever dated him.
	Only one woman.
	I had an interview with a radio station host who happened to be female, and we were discussing the Columbia University missing years, and she said to me, I don't care how many students were at Columbia University, if were I there and Obama walked past me, I would remember him as tall and handsome and well-spoken and strapping and striking as he is.
	Don't you American people find it strange that there's not another woman on this planet that knows what Obama's kiss is like?
	I mean, even growing up in high school?
	Or at Occidental College?
	Or his wandering years?
	No other woman?
	You mean Obama was a virgin?
	It appears from the record, planetary-wise, that Obama was a virgin when he met Michelle.
	Oh, I'm sorry.
	I forgot.
	There are men who have come forward One of them being Donald Young and the other being Larry Sinclair.
	Oh, now I get the picture.
	No women but two men that have come forward and have stated Obama's sexual dating practices and drug practices, by the way.
	Now, he admitted in his book, Dreams from My Father, that he was a drug user.
	Well, let me ask you a question.
	If he's unable and had to admit that he's unable to kick nicotine, is he still addicted to cocaine?
	I've got another question about the Obama that we know.
	Reggie Love, a handsome, well-spoken, polite black man, Who has been brought into the Obama administration and he accompanies Obama everywhere he goes.
	Everywhere.
	If Obama is going to Paris, Reggie Love goes.
	If Obama's going to China, Reggie Love goes.
	If Obama's going to the bathroom, Reggie Love goes.
	If Obama's going to the gym, only Obama and Reggie Love go to the gym to work out, shoot some hoops, And then hit the shower.
	Only Obama and Reggie Love.
	He's a black man.
	You've seen him.
	You don't know that you've seen him, but you've seen him in the background with Obama everywhere he goes.
	So now what's going on with Reggie Love and Obama?
	And I'm simply saying that it is unusual for a man to get to the place in life where Obama's at and only have experience with just one woman.
	So the matter of the birth certificate that is now being pressed and released.
	Obama has leaked the information.
	The Kenyan parliamentarian, the young man who's a member of the Kenyan parliament, who stated that Obama was born in Kenya, was simply a leaking of information.
	Obama wants you to know that.
	Obama has given the authority for that information.
	Parliamentarian to make that statement because he recognizes that the CIA, Columbia, Obama sedition and treason trial were proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that Obama was indeed an illegal alien and he's not a natural born citizen and that he was born in Kenya.
	So he is leaking the information.
	Obama gambled and so did many others in the Zigniew Brzezinski trilateral if you will grouping of mobsters that are respected in global politics and global banking.
	They gambled that if Obama could make it through the primary and the general and the election and the installation without the birth certificate hindering him, the only person, the only other people on the planet that could make the birth certificate issue a matter of concern for the American people would be the American media.
	And when they finally reeled in Fox News by investing heavily literally billions of dollars into the Fox News operation they reeled in Rupert Murdoch they reeled in Bill O'Reilly and then in January of this year they gave Glenn Beck Last year, they gave Glenn Beck a job with Fox News, and that was the end of story.
	So the gamble was, and the plan was, if you can shut down the media from talking about the birth certificate, and everybody knows that the media has been shut down, then the birth certificate issue was not going to go anywhere, and it was never going to haunt Obama, and he could never be tried for treason and for sedition and fraud.
	Because he is not a natural born citizen.
	They thought it was going away.
	But it didn't.
	What we are demonstrating, and I come up close, America, I want you to listen to me.
	What we are demonstrating in the trial in the days leading up to the trial is that we now have the power to circumvent, to go around the dung head or the mainstream or the lame stream or the drive-by media.
	We have the power to go around them because the birth certificate has not died, but it has enlivened.

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