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Hello Taliban, this is, uh, this is, uh, hello, this is Al-Qaeda.
We want to coordinate some coordination with you.
Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak.
It's, uh, Sunday, October 17th, 2010.
Time for your Gitmo Nation Media Assassination.
Episode 244.
This is no agenda.
It is now the fourth day of rain and crap at the Hilltop Watchtower Crackpot Command Center in Gitmo Nation West in the People's Republic of Southern California.
Will it ever stop in the morning?
I'm Adam Curry.
And from northern Silicon Valley where it's not raining, which is a good thing, I'm John C. Dvorak.
And in the morning to you, John.
In the morning to you and in the morning to all the ships at sea.
And our human resources who are all charged up and ready in the chat room at noagendachat.net the way their government loves them.
And remember, it ain't over until the fat guy gets tased.
It's raining down there?
Oh man, it's been so horrible.
It's literally been like this for four days.
Huh.
Yeah.
I mean, but not just a little bit.
It's like nasty and it's cold.
It's like 65 degrees.
And you guys have amazing weather, right?
Well, we had until today.
Well, it'll probably clear up, but we woke up and it's foggy right now.
Yeah.
Which is unusual at this time of year.
Yeah, no, our weather has been outstanding the entire week.
It must be the global warming.
I don't know.
That's what it is.
We have had enormous sun flare activity recently.
Have you been following that?
I think that was predicted.
Yeah, but like the biggest in nine months or something, big flares, and if it had happened only three degrees closer to Earth or whatever, we'd have a geomagnetic storm.
Well, I know it was interfering with my DISH network satellite.
See, I thought I was going to ask you about that, because I think if it's only three degrees, then maybe there might be something going on.
So you have noticed it?
Oh, yeah.
Interesting.
I think a lot of people, I mean, it's only short-term little bursts, but there was this situation, I think it was yesterday, where I literally got error message I've never seen before from the Dish Network.
Like, pay your bill.
Well, I've seen that before.
No, I thought you still had it on a freebie for like 18 years or something.
Well, it's because I'm testing it.
Yes, you're reviewing it.
I'm reviewing it.
For review purposes only.
So anyway, so I got this error message that said...
It just said you lost it.
Whatever was up there is not there anymore.
I was looking at it going, oh my god, they've blown the satellite out of the sky.
Call Adam quick.
The satellite is gone.
And then it came back.
And then I was breaking up a lot.
I have some, you know, it was like a bad antenna, you know, kind of thing.
But it's fine.
It's okay now.
I remember in, I'm going to say 1998, Hmm, 5 or 96, we had one of those huge sun flares, and this is back in the day when people used pagers.
Remember those?
Pagers?
Yeah, vaguely.
You know, I never had one of those.
I stayed away from it myself, but it was a big thing, particularly in New York, because if you're dealing drugs, you've got to have a pager.
But everyone basically had one, and these were the days of the first Motorola, or what they called the Microtack or whatever.
Remember those first flip phones?
They weren't digital.
StarTech.
StarTech.
That's right.
They weren't digital, but they worked on...
They were analog.
It was the good old days of cellular communication.
With a police scanner, you could listen to lots of fun stuff.
You know that, but you could also hear the other person at the other end.
Exactly.
Exactly.
And we had one of those big flares and everything went out.
Pagers went out and we did have some satellite television at the time.
That also went out.
And that was like three days this stuff was knocked offline.
At least that's what we were told at the time.
Of course, I was not fully awakened and not investigating what people were just telling me.
But I think it was just a pure solar flare pager outage or a satellite outage.
That makes sense.
We used to...
One of the things that during the analog era, you could listen into other people's phone conversations if you had any kind of scanner.
Yeah.
But Radio Shack had an interesting product that they brought, which was an all...
In fact, I still have it somewhere.
It's very handy.
It's an all-channel scanner that scans everything in the spectrum, and you can set it for certain frequencies.
Yeah, you set it between, like, what was it?
I think it was 400 megahertz and 600 megahertz.
I can't remember the exact...
But you literally...
Actually, you couldn't set it, but if you looked around, there was a little thing you had.
If you took the thing apart and there was a little trace that if you soldered it, it turned on the cell phone scanning part.
You could literally hear a guy call his wife, hey honey, I'm going to be late for dinner, and then three seconds like, hey baby, I'm on my way over.
What I noticed listening casually was that most of the cell phone calls were for people, usually around noontime, everybody was lost.
Hey man, where am I going?
They're calling their secretary to get directions.
The other one was the after hours was the guys who, believe me, this is the three, the big three, and I think it's probably still true.
The second one was guys calling their mistresses, saying, I have to go home because you know what, the old ball and chain has to see me, and they're going on and on.
The conversations, they would always be like, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And the mistress would always be talking a lot.
You know what I mean?
It's like guys are very non-communicative.
Apparently you were listening in too.
Yeah, of course I was.
Why else do it?
And the third big one were drug deals.
Oh, yeah.
Well, I was making them, so...
So there was drug deals going on everywhere.
I had great reception on my end.
I was calling.
Now, that said, I should dig up a couple of tapes I made, because we used to have people over.
And some of these tapes were pretty creepy, but there's one guy...
You used to tape it?
I listened occasionally.
You taped it?
You were taping this stuff?
Oh, my God, how sad.
It was a form of entertainment at the time.
But my all-time favorite one was a guy having phone sex with somebody.
And he says, oh, hang on a second.
I'm coming to the toll booth.
I'll get right back.
One second.
Let me just cover up for a second.
I'm like, come on, this stuff is gold.
That's cool.
You have that on tape?
Well, I'm not even going to ask you to find it.
You know, these tapes, who knows where they are.
Yeah, probably.
Yeah, somewhere.
But if I can find any of these tapes, which I doubt, by the way.
Yeah, I agree.
We'll run a couple of them.
I can't even get you to do it.
The other one that I thought was interesting, the problem is when they shifted cell towers sometimes, you'd get this effect.
And this happened to me more often than once.
It goes like this.
The guy goes, yeah, I know.
There's a big deal.
The board's meeting tomorrow, and they're going to do a three-for-one split.
And the fucking thing is going to skyrocket.
You've got to get in.
Call your broker right now.
He says, oh, yeah, okay, I will.
I will.
What's the symbol again?
Shh!
Hello?
Hello?
What?
You could always hear the guy because he was still broadcasting.
You could always hear that person not connecting.
And you'd be like, fucking piece of shit.
Yeah, good times, man.
I gave up on it after a few months of entertainment.
Good times.
Hey, I want to thank everybody for emailing the term that you were looking for, John, as we wound up on Thursday's show.
You had a miniature pet peeve about the sucking in of cheekbones and smiling for pictures.
Yeah, duck face.
That's right.
I don't get the duck face thing.
It doesn't look like a duck.
Well, yeah, it does a little.
It looks like a duck's ass, kind of.
A DA. What we used to call a DA back in the day.
So you can go to anti-duckface.com if you want to see some amazing duck face pictures.
This is a very interesting phenomenon.
You're so right.
I mean, I've noticed it.
I've seen it.
I've seen my daughter do it in pictures.
Did you ever ask her why she's doing it?
Why?
Because it's unattractive.
Can you agree with me that it's unattractive?
Yeah, it's very unattractive.
And even worse, it's usually white girls and then they have to throw a gang sign with their hand.
All the pictures is like you do the duck face and you throw a gang sign.
It's like, huh?
What?
What is that all about?
It's something to do with culture, which I'm very disappointed with.
After that hip-hop awards and everything, I've just been kind of paying attention.
I'm really disappointed.
We're headed in the wrong direction, John.
It's pretty lame.
It's not just lame.
Oh, by the way, I've got the beginnings of my hip-hop track here.
Let me play this for you.
It's pretty good, right?
I'm sorry I didn't hear it.
It's awesome.
It's totally rocking.
We're getting there.
Hell yeah.
I think hell is the pejorative, yeah.
Okay.
By the way, you would have loved to have been here over the weekend.
Molly Wood came to visit.
And she stayed overnight and we went out to dinner, the three of us.
Miss Mickey, Molly, and I. Boy, Molly and I got into a big argument.
Oh, good.
Oh, dude.
You would have so loved it.
It was about the R word and the G word.
You know, about...
Oh, retarded and...
Oh, my goodness.
G? What's the G word?
Gay.
You can't say gay anymore.
Oh, gay.
Right.
You can't say gay.
You can't say gay.
Yeah, we went on a rant about that.
Oh, my goodness.
Oh, boy.
So what does she say?
Well, we have to change society from the bottom.
From the bottom?
I said, I don't know.
Hold on a second.
Let me get this straight.
Yeah, I know.
From the bottom?
But then Mickey was ganging up on me, too.
It was like...
Oh, you get two women, you're toast.
Lost.
And by the way, we had dinner at Argo's.
And I'd saved up for this one.
Ago's or Spago's?
Ago's.
Ago's, which is De Niro's restaurant.
Outstanding.
They had a special.
They had linguine with white truffle.
And so this is all going on.
And just for like 20 minutes, I just shut my mouth and just listened and ate this fantastic linguine with white truffle.
It was phenomenal.
Have you ever had that white truffle on linguine?
Oh, yeah.
It's Italian.
Wow.
Wow.
That was awesome.
So I didn't let it ruin my dinner.
But wow, I really lost on the argument.
Apparently, you got beaten down by two women.
And they're big.
They're big women, too.
Yeah, with opinions.
Yeah, it's scary.
You pig?
Did they call you a pig?
No, I didn't hear the pig word, but everything else under the sun.
But I was really like, you know, this is inciting hate.
You should have said, this is retarded.
Yeah.
Oh, believe me.
I was throwing it all out.
One after another.
And then, of course, I did the old Hitler thing in the forum.
And I said, well, why don't we just go kill people in Afghanistan?
And then Molly literally said, oh, that's like bringing up Hitler in the forum.
I said, well, yeah.
I said, if we want to change society, we can't change it from the bottom.
Why don't we stop killing brown people?
How about that for a start?
It was like, well, that's not the argument.
Okay, all right.
So what was the argument about using the word retarded?
Yeah, that Molly really believes it's a horrible thing to do.
It incites hate against mentally challenged children.
It incites?
Yes.
And it teaches young children who don't know any better that retarded is bad and therefore it's hate.
It's a...
Is bad always hate?
I don't get that.
I'm just telling...
Look, I'm...
This is why I was sitting there going like, Oh, John, could you just walk through the door right now?
Could you just walk?
I need you.
I need you.
I need my buzzkill.
I could come up with all the counterpunch crap.
Yeah, I was...
I was weak.
From my days at Berkeley, I can handle these kinds of things.
I was weak.
From any angle, by the way.
I could have taken their sides and destroyed you.
I know.
I know.
I have so much to learn from you.
I'm not ready to snatch the pebbles from your hand yet, master.
Yeah, rough go.
I can understand that.
So let's get some executive producers.
We had a really poor week.
A couple is the word here.
We had a poor week.
I want to tell people out there, dvorak.org slash any, please donate a little more than you did this week.
We need to support this show and keep it alive.
I have a theory as to why our numbers just fell through the floor.
Wait a minute, let me guess.
Is it me again?
It's usually my fault.
Whenever the numbers drop...
You shouldn't do this.
You did that.
It's like people hate you.
What was it this time?
I've never said this ever.
Should I get the emails?
Do you want me to tell you what I think it was?
George Clooney.
Wow, yeah.
People love George Clooney, right?
And we had the art and everything.
We mocked George Clooney.
Very bad idea.
Yeah.
Hmm.
Yeah, no, Clooney's on the fast track for the presidency now.
Now I see it.
Yeah, he's there, right?
He's totally there.
Yeah, and the whole Donald Trump...
We mocked George Clooney.
We said he's part of this, you know, he's either a paid informant of the CIA, he's part of the something.
There's no way he's doing all the stuff he's doing unless he's like, he's plugged into some intelligence group.
You sure it wasn't just a crappy show?
I don't think it was a crappy show.
It was just Clooney.
Don't mess with Clooney.
And then we put Clooney on the art.
Yeah, it was bad.
With a goofy look and a CIA logo behind him and three monkeys.
I mean, come on.
Yeah, you're right.
Well, we can't do that anymore then because it's hurting the revenue stream.
Yeah, Jesus.
Like big time.
I mean, we do our part.
At least we took a shot at it.
Yeah, we did.
And you know what?
In four years from now...
Thank you, darling.
Or what is it?
Not even that.
Yeah, he'll probably be six years.
He'll run in the 2000, what, 16?
Well, it depends on who wins this next time.
Yeah.
Then we'll have to say, well, we told you so.
You know, you guys didn't support us.
Yeah, we told you...
Who are you anyway telling us so?
We told you so.
So we have two 10-10-10 special executive producers.
Yeah, we have them cited singularly, which is Ernie Ernst and Zachary Giesemann, which is pronounced some other way.
Giesemann.
Giesemann.
Giesemann, right.
He told us how to pronounce it and we already forgot.
Zachary, we're sorry.
Zachary Giesemann.
Then we have our contributor for this week is Janice Kang, who gave us $420.10, which is 42 times 10 plus 10 cents.
Yeah, I have a note.
As a note.
I have a note here.
She has a note.
Yeah, she says, Hi Adam and John, this is in regards to the 42 times 10 plus 0.10 contribution for 101010.
As a woman, I'm uncomfortable asking for a DD. A DD. I guess she means a D-douche.
Yeah.
Really?
Is that uncomfortable for women to ask for?
I haven't seen too many.
No, I mean, a couple of the younger women, I don't think, I would guess that this woman is probably in her 30s because I think that's where the cutoff is.
And the young, you know, we haven't done it.
It's been done.
So she instead would like to have a bit of karma.
So we can hand her that.
You've got karma.
The second request is for measurements.
I'd like to get the circumference of your heads.
And then she actually stipulates, knowing us, the ones on your shoulders.
This is the woman who doesn't want to be deduced.
It's for a project I have in mind which might turn into a bit of money for No Agenda.
Thanks for shedding light on issues that haven't seen the light of day and ages.
I don't know, how do you measure your head size?
You get one of those little...
You put it up your ass and see if it fits?
Is that essentially it?
You get a fabric tape and you wrap it across your forehead and around the back.
Okay, so we'll have to do that.
It's like measuring waists or bust lines.
I love the way you say measure.
It's just so proper.
That's how you say it, I think.
Gosh.
Okay, so that was it.
So we hope that we have a better turnout.
Wait, but that was it?
That was it?
Yeah, we don't even have an associate executive producer this week.
No knighthoods, nothing?
Oh, no, we do have a knighthood coming up, but that's a make good.
It was from last week.
It was a make good knighthood.
Oh, man.
Wow.
Okay.
Dvorak.org slash NA. We need to pay bills, people.
And everyone else out there, you've got to go out and propagate the formula.
At least do that for us.
Our formula is this.
We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
New.
Word.
Order.
Stay with me now, please.
Shut up.
Leave.
And Janice, of course, as an executive producer of the No Agenda program, episode 244, you have received an official credit.
That can go on your resume.
And as always, unlike Hollywood, we will vouch for you.
Anytime someone brings that into question and says, what is this?
What is this executive producer credit?
What is this show?
What is this?
You say, excuse me, I shall call my show creators right now, the showrunners, as they're known in Hollywood, and they will verify it.
Exactly.
Yes.
Well, the only thing I've really been focused on, I mean, I have a lot of different stuff, besides the fact that gold closed at $1,372, and that was actually down five, so it hit $1,380.
Yeah, it hit $14.
It might even hit $15.
It's going to hit, remember I predicted $15 by the end of the year?
Before it craps out.
Yeah, you keep saying that.
Keep going, Johnny Boy.
You've been saying this since 850.
I'm not saying anything.
You'll start crapping out after the election.
You watch.
I don't know, man.
This foreclosure crisis, which is the other thing I really focus my intention on, there's something going on here which is not being mentioned.
Or at least, let's say, I noticed you had a couple of clips on it, too.
I think that things are being covered up.
The true nature of the problem is not being addressed.
Okay, well, let's hear what your true nature of the problem is.
Well, this is the beginning of the unraveling of derivatives.
And people cavalierly say, oh, you know, it's the swaps and stuff was bonded up.
But they're glossing over what that really means.
And I happen to understand a little bit about derivatives and swaps.
And the reason why they can't find any of this...
So for those of you who are not indoctrinated by American news, on the heels of the financial crisis, now there's, of course, they have to foreclose in all these homes that people aren't paying for anymore.
But no one seems to know where the ownership papers are.
It's like, where's that deed?
Who owns that place?
So the courts have been ramrodding foreclosure documents through and just, you know, they call it what, robo-signings, I think is what the term is.
And in the process of that, there's all kinds of distractions, like people's homes are foreclosed on who own their home outright or have been paying their mortgages, etc.
So it's a big clusterfuck, essentially.
But the real problem is the way derivatives work, not a regulated entity, and I have witnessed this, I'll just have to say it again, I built a derivatives trading system with my company in 1995 for Bankers Trust, who has long since gone.
This shit just happened on papers, faxes, and stuffed in some guy's draw.
And if you know how a swap works, do you know how a swap works, John?
Yeah, kind of.
But, I mean, I can't design one if that's what you want.
Well, yeah, actually you can.
It's very simple.
All you need is a party and a counterparty.
But it's interesting to understand what happens here and then you see the problem.
So let's say I'm in London and I have to buy a machine in New York.
And you're in New York and you have to buy some materials or you have to lease an office space in London.
So in order to hedge your risk of a very basic swap, as it's known, in order to hedge your risk on currency changes, which of course could really change your bottom line, you come together, you sign an agreement, a private agreement, which is fax back and forth, and you say, okay, I'm going to borrow a million pounds from you, and you're going to borrow $2 million from me, and we'll have it at this set rate, and then it's a wash, basically.
So we're swapped, we're out even.
So that works.
So now I've hedged my risk and you've hedged your risk.
If the dollar and the pound changes significantly, you're basically going to be at the same rate that you locked it in with this other private party.
The problem is...
Is then I can go take my $2 million guarantee from you and I can start to swap that out with somebody else.
Say, well, look, I got $2 million over here and that guarantees me 3% interest a year at a fixed rate.
So I can do something with the spread there of 3%.
So I can mess around with 3%.
And then that goes on and on.
The next guy does the same thing.
And all of this was never really documented.
In fact, the trading system that I built, you'll love this, they wanted a web-based derivatives trading system.
So what happened was the guy would enter in a form, essentially like a CGI script.
We had no idea what we were doing in the bank.
So we built like a CGI script.
It would take the form data.
It would then hand it off to an Excel spreadsheet, which would run it through their Black Shoals model to see if the risk was appropriate.
And then it would drop a file onto a server, and then a process would run every 15 minutes, see if anything new was there, and then it would stick it into Lotus Notes.
So you know that shit's gone forever.
If it's in Notes.
Because Notes databases are like, pfft, no one knows how they work.
And that's the problem.
And so when you do this with mortgages, which is no difference whether you're doing it with a mortgage or whether you're doing it with currency, the same thing happened.
And it's all just, it's the Lotus Notes databases, it's on faxes, it's guys who just had shit laying around.
It was never really properly documented.
And that's why they can't figure it out.
And so I think this is the beginning of the unraveling of the true derivatives crisis.
And everyone's freaking out.
And look at the banks, all their stocks are down.
They want to regulate these things is the problem.
Good luck!
Well, that's the thing.
It's like if you say, for example, at least in this form, because there's no real, there's not one model for these things.
No, because it's just a private agreement.
No, it's because it's a bunch of deals.
Like, I say, hey, Adam, can you loan me 50 bucks?
Yeah, and I say, yeah, sure.
Yeah, here's your 50 bucks.
Give me a piece of paper that says you're going to pay me back.
I say, okay, here's the piece of paper, and you take the piece of paper and say, hey, Dvorak's going to pay this eventually.
I don't know when.
I'll sell it to you for 40 bucks.
Yeah, 40, but give me 40 cash.
And you give it to some guy, your neighbor.
Yeah, exactly.
So he's holding the paper now, and you've got the $40.
And he starts calling you up, and you're like, who are you, douchebag?
I don't know you.
And it's like, how do you regulate?
This is just a bunch of bull crap going on in the background.
It has to resolve itself.
I mean, this is the whole thing.
I mean, this is why...
Yeah, but we know that this is a $600 trillion problem.
The president said so himself.
And this is now starting to unravel because it's not just the mortgages.
It's everything.
And it's not just like it's only mortgages tied up in this.
I'm sure it was like, here's a mortgage and here's like some shit I borrowed that I'll throw into the mix.
You know, it's all in there.
Well, here's what they should...
They should just ignore the whole thing.
Exactly.
Yeah.
No, they should.
Let it resolve itself.
You know, if somebody owes somebody some money under some circumstance, good.
Go knock yourself out.
You're in an unregulated deal.
Maybe you've got to bring a guy with a baseball bat to collect.
I don't know.
So they've got the shills out everywhere trying to say exactly what you just said.
Let me give you a quick example from Bloomberg Television.
Okay, well, meanwhile, the politics of the foreclosures are heating up.
My next guest says the delay will impact the nation's economic recovery.
Alex Sanchez is the CEO of the Florida Bankers Association up here in New York for a change.
Alex, nice to see you.
Great to see you, Betty.
How are you?
Good, good.
And I saw your head nod when I was saying, look, this is going to delay, essentially, the clearing out of these foreclosures.
Right.
And, Betty, look, if someone has been wrong here in this process, let's make them whole.
I love it when people say that.
Let's make them whole, man.
Let's just make them whole.
Let's make them whole.
What kind of horse crap is that?
Make them whole.
That means we'll make you whole, man.
What are you, in this eighth grade?
Look, if you've got a problem, hey Dvorak, if you've got a problem...
Self-esteem course in the eighth grade?
Yeah, we're just going to make you whole, man.
Shut up.
We'll make you whole in the back end.
Don't worry about it, brother.
But let's not hold up the hundreds of thousands of homes that really need to be cleared and sold.
That I love.
We need to clear this shit and sell it.
Let's clear this crap out.
Let's clear this crap out and sell that shit.
We're getting hungry over here.
So our economic recovery can continue.
Now, I will tell you, before a banker even files a foreclosure lawsuit, that's a very painful decision.
Something that the banker has tried to work out for months and months.
This is the funniest thing ever.
You've got to listen to what he says.
This guy's a...
This guy's a stooge.
He's a douche.
Yeah, he's the shill.
He's a douche.
He's a douche.
You can't be a douche.
I'm using that from now on.
It's a new word, douchebag.
Hey, douche.
Hey, douche.
But he is the president of the Bankers Association.
He's like, hey, you know, it's a really tough decision.
Like, you know, we struggle in agony thinking about should we foreclose?
All right, let me finish a little bit.
We work out for months and months and months with the mortgage holder, and when it's not successful, and then when everything has been exhausted, then they file the foreclosure.
But it sounds like some of these processes have gone awry, though.
I mean, judges approving cases in 30 seconds, lawyers not showing up, the buyers themselves not showing up, or the sellers.
Well, the problem is what they call it is the rocket docket.
I mean, you know, there's thousands of these kids.
I got a rocket docket here for you.
I got your rocket docket.
Dooch.
I got your rocket docket right here.
Many of them are flippers.
Many of them are not the homesick.
They're all assholes.
They're flippers.
They're just flippers.
No one gives a crap.
These guys are no good.
They're no good, these people who are holding the mortgages.
It's very painful.
It's very painful we got to, like, you know, like, foreclose on them.
It takes months of agony.
Agony.
They're just flippers.
Many of them are flippers.
Many of them are not the homesteaded property.
And having this moratorium is just going to slow up our economic process.
We can't recover.
We can't recover.
It's just slowing everything down.
Reports have shown that we're never going to get to the bottom and start going up if we can't get these homes resold in the marketplace.
Right.
You can't clear out that inventory.
You cannot.
And when you buy a home, what happens, Betty?
You buy refrigerators.
You put new floors down.
You buy furniture.
So it's really going to hurt our economic recovery.
Yes, that's right.
It's going to hurt the economic recovery.
The douchebag goes on forever.
But he's out there shilling.
And this Betty...
Yeah, hi.
It's great to see you.
Oh, Bloomberg has the worst.
Yeah, that's right.
I saw you nodding.
Listen to how they ended up.
Like, they're going to go bone each other in the restroom after the interview.
I mean, it's disgusting the way these journalists work.
I'm working with folks in Washington and folks like you to get the word out.
And I think it's very important that...
Folks like you to get the word out.
There it is.
Hey, folks like you to get the word out.
Hey, come on, Bloomberg.
Get the word out.
The policy makers listen to you, Betty.
Betty, they listen to you, Betty.
Betty, look into my eyes.
Look deep into my eyes.
The policy makers listen to you.
And it's the truth, unfortunately.
The policy makers sit there watching.
They're watching MSNBC and CNBC and Bloomberg, and then Betty is actually helping them make policy decisions.
Policymakers, listen to you, Betty, because this is a very important part for our economy.
Well, I mean, the press is certainly covering this development.
Okay, Alex, thank you so much.
Great to see you.
Thank you for stopping by.
Thank you.
Great to see you.
Thanks for stopping by.
I'm totally moist.
That's so great.
Hey, Alex, great, man.
I'll see you at dinner, okay?
Thanks, Betty.
Thanks for helping make policy.
Betty Boop.
So, these pricks in the banks, they take all this government money, and of course now it's been, you know, almost admitted by Obama that, you know, just to protect the bonuses of the bankers, because heaven forbid...
Yeah, what if they left for Asia?
I mean, oh my God.
If they didn't get their bonus, they'd be living in Singapore.
Yeah.
You get the bonuses there.
By the way, the way I see it, it's good riddance, but that's another story.
So they have all this money, government, billions of dollars is thrown at the banks.
Trillions.
And so they go through this foreclosure process.
Now, I have a clip from KPIX locally here that's kind of a little investigative piece on foreclosure employees.
Who did they hire?
And what kind of salaries?
Not so much the money they're getting, but they got...
Now, these are the people who actually...
Who weren't filling out the forms, who weren't doing their jobs, that were trying to rush these foreclosures into the market illegally, I might add.
And this douche that you just talked to, or just played, that guy is defending this practice.
This play foreclosure employees in its entirety, and tell me you're not sickened by this story.
The lender foreclosed, repossessed, and resold Thomas' home in three months.
His attorneys believe it's another case in a growing stack of foreclosures pushed through by so-called robo-signers.
The lawyers interviewed 150, among them out-of-work beauticians, Walmart clerks, and fast food workers, given impressive titles but with little or no experience, hired to sign paperwork as fast as they could.
The inexperienced young workers were called Burger King kids at JPMorgan Chase.
The New York Times says frazzled workers at Citigroup and GMAC sometimes tossed the papers into the trash.
They're signing false affidavits.
They're signing affidavits that would say things like every allegation in the complaint is true.
And they never saw the complaint.
Some of them had no idea what a complaint was.
In one deposition, Wells Fargo employee Z. Ma said she would sign 300 to 500 documents a day, which stated that she had examined all books, records, and documents in each foreclosure and had personal knowledge of the money owed.
When questioned, Ma admitted the only thing she examined was her own name and title, Vice President of Loan Documentation.
Ma's a college dropout who worked for a home decor company and had two weeks of training at Wells Fargo.
Wells Fargo told CBS News its foreclosure affidavits are accurate, and it will take corrective action with employees who do not follow procedure.
In San Francisco, Don Knapp, CBS 5.
Follow procedure, slave?
Unbelievable.
That's mint.
These are the same people who took the census.
It's the same people.
Not even.
Not even.
Some bonehead.
Just sign this.
Just sign as many as you can.
We'll take further action on their irregularities.
I mean, Wells Fargo has got to be the sleazebag.
What kind of an organism?
Who would do business with them, ladies and gentlemen out there?
If you have an account with these people.
Close it.
Close it.
If they're going to pull this kind of stuff and they're going to make some bogus excuse, they're obviously going to end up screwing you over somewhere along the line.
Well, and what became painfully aware to me once again, listening to all this, and actually we had a very nice note come in from one of our human resources.
Cash is gone.
Money is gone.
It's meaningless.
It's just shit in a database, stuff written on paper.
We're in this weird society where our belief system is that there's still value on things, and it's these little digits that are attached to it, but it's completely meaningless, and the people who are propagating it really don't give a crap, as long as they have lots of numbers, as long as they've got the digits.
And it's killing everything and everybody.
Everything.
Well, anyway.
This human resource tried to get $11,000 in cash from a Citibank.
I'm sorry, Bank of America.
Oh, another bank that I hate.
They didn't have it.
No, no, no.
They only have $5,000 in cash at each bank.
If you want more than $5,000, then you have to submit a written request.
These aren't banks anymore.
This is bull crap.
These are just computer centers.
And then later he got a note.
They don't even need that big safe anymore.
No, of course.
In fact, the guy even said, where's your safe?
And then the manager came over and started to give him crap about it.
What do you need it for?
What do you need cash for?
Hey, what do you need cash for?
You've got to sign this so we can...
I got a note.
Dear Mr.
X, hope all is well with you.
We need your assistance in addressing some questions that have come up on your account.
Because he, of course, took the money out eventually.
In particular, two cash deposits on September 22, 2010, the amount of $15,000.
And on October 8, 2010, $8,000.
In order to assist our compliance department to better understand the activity...
Please provide an explanation for the cash-in source of funds, the purpose for these transactions, and is the activity anticipated to continue in the future?
What?
It's a bank.
You can't take your money to the bank.
You can't get it out of the bank.
And what's eight grand?
They're doing money laundering, drug businesses.
You're just financing terrorism.
Yeah.
But he literally could...
Not if you're depositing it in the bank, unless the bank's financing terrorism.
No, no, he put money in the bank, he took it out of the Bank of America, and he put it into the bank, and the compliance department needs to know where that money came from.
Hey, hey, hey, how'd you get that money?
That's crazy.
Well, it's just like the cops that have been pulling people over throughout the United States, and then if they find more than a few thousand dollars on them, they confiscate it, saying it's drug money.
Or a TSA. Yeah, TSA's been looking askance at everything that comes through, even though they're not supposed to.
So this is why I get really negative about what's happening.
This is so not good.
What are we going to do?
We can't do anything but bitch.
But bitch about it.
Bitch about the bitches.
That's all we do is complain.
What is this other foreclosure clip you have?
Let's see, where was it?
We did focus on foreclosure first.
Oh, well, this is ancillary, but similar.
This is the Sharon Engel, Harry Reid debate.
This is apparently a very close race in Nevada.
Yeah, and Sharon Engel is kind of an idiot, but she means well.
And Reid is just a total douche.
Yeah.
I mean, the guy's a sleazeball, slow-talking, won't answer questions.
He's just a stooge.
And so, you know, Angle can win because, you know, this guy won't.
So they actually had a pretty good debate with a guy from, of all places, PBS, a local PBS station, who asked pretty hard questions.
And he was asking, Reed, this question about focusing on foreclosure instead of focusing on health care.
And Reed wouldn't answer the question, and the guy came back at him, which I thought was interesting.
So I have the clip where the guy asks Reed to explain himself, and Reed, then I speed up the tape because I can't stand listening to this guy.
So we race through this bogus answer, and then the guy reiterates, hey, you didn't answer the question.
Very good, very good.
You hardly ever hear that.
They give you a non-answer, and the guy didn't.
Oh, very good.
Let's listen.
In light of the expensive mandates on small business and the intense voter backlash, why didn't you and President Obama focus on jobs and the foreclosure crisis first, knowing how Nevada has suffered more than any other state?
For a long time in this country, insurance companies have dominated the healthcare delivery system.
You pay your premiums, you get sick or hurt, they walk away from you.
We passed health insurance reform because we had no chance.
I didn't worry about that question.
The facts are all wrong.
We, according to the Congressional Budget Office, have been told that we will reduce the debt by $1.3 trillion.
People who have children who have pre-existing disabilities like diabetes can no longer be denied insurance by those folks.
There is something that we had to do, including extend the loss of Medicare for 12 years.
The facts that you gave me are simply wrong.
We had to do health insurance reform.
Funny thing is, he actually makes sense.
It creates jobs.
Thousands and thousands of jobs.
Senator Reid, I'm going to ask you that again.
Why didn't you and President Obama focus on jobs and the foreclosure crisis first, knowing how Nevada has suffered more than any other state?
We did focus on foreclosure first.
What a dooch!
How can I resist?
Hey, how do you spell dooch?
D-O-O-T-C-H. It could also be D-E-W-T-C-H. That'd be Deutsch, it seems to me.
Dooch, double that.
So the guy goes on and says the insurance companies have dominated, blah, blah, blah.
Now they're dominating even more.
I mean, the whole healthcare thing gives the insurance companies really a free reign and a guaranteed customers.
What an asshole.
Hey, now.
Now, I did get a...
I did get a clip from this thing that was, I don't know if you knew this or when she said it, Sharon Engel said something kind of interesting.
And as soon as she said it, I said, that's interesting because I don't know that I knew this because it didn't come out in any of the mainstream stuff and I didn't read it anywhere.
Maybe you have and you knew about it, but I didn't.
Can you play the Sharon Engel clip?
Yeah.
What we have here is an illegal alien problem and the solution is simple.
Secure the borders, enforce the laws.
I think every state should have a sheriff like Joe Arpaio.
And we should be supporting Arizona instead of suing Arizona like Senator Reid and President Obama have.
When they sued Arizona, they also allowed 11 foreign countries to join in that suit.
Senator Reid, you've allowed 11 foreign countries to dictate our immigration law.
That's just nuts.
Really?
I didn't know that.
I didn't know that.
How does that work?
Wait a minute, let me get this straight.
How does that work?
Our government, our federal government, which brings up the 10th Amendment issue again, by the way, our federal government has sued Arizona and then let 11 other countries join our government in suing one of our states?
Yeah, and which ones?
How many governments border on Arizona?
Well, there's only one.
I know, that's what I mean.
What are those other 11 doing?
Well, probably Guatemala, where some of these big gangs come from.
They're probably in on this.
I don't know.
We have to look it up.
Maybe somebody in the chat room can give us their 11 countries.
That's crazy.
Yeah, she's right.
It is just crazy.
You know, this is a chain...
I think this is an old one, an old chain...
And typically I throw them out and get angry at chain mail.
But this is one of those funny ones.
Whether it's true or not, it at least gives you some sentiment about how stupid politicians are.
Have you seen this one?
It has to do with travel, with a ticketing agent who gets all these stupid calls from congressional staffers, but also from ranking politicians.
Oh, there's one of those comedy chain mails.
Yeah, but I... Go ahead, read a couple of them.
Okay, let's see.
This is Carol Shea Porter.
Asked for an aisle seat so her hair wouldn't get messed up being near the window.
That's what I think is good.
Let's see.
There's a couple of good ones.
I want to get the good ones here.
Senior Vermont Congressman Bernie Sanders called furious about a Florida vacation package.
It doesn't say a Florida package we did.
I asked what was wrong with a vacation in Orlando.
He said he was expecting an ocean view room.
The agent tried to explain that that's not possible since Orlando is in the middle of the state.
It's not actually on the ocean.
He replied, don't lie to me!
I look at the map.
Florida is a very thin state.
I don't believe that one.
I don't either.
An aide for Janet Napolitano once called and asked if he could rent a car in Dallas.
I pulled up the reservation, noticed he had only a one-hour layover in Dallas.
When I asked him why he wanted to rent a car, he said, well, I heard Dallas has a big airport.
We need a car to drive between gates to save time.
I could believe that one.
Dallas is a big airport, and you could drive between gates and save time, but I don't believe it.
I think it's bogus.
And here's my favorite.
An aide to Senator John Kerry, her name is Lindsay Ross, called to inquire about a package to Hawaii after going over all the costs.
She said, would it be cheaper to fly to California and then take the train to Hawaii?
No, this is bull.
This chain letter is a pack of lies.
Okay.
It made me smile in the morning.
Well, that's a good thing.
It certainly did.
It made me smile.
Anti-UN protests going on in Haiti right now, which I'm sure you've seen that all over the news, John.
I didn't know there was anything going on in Haiti except death.
Isn't it all over the news?
Protesters carrying banners saying, down with the occupation, which seems like a pretty poor slogan to me.
We're forced back by United Nations soldiers.
Security personnel traded blows with demonstrators and troops started firing in the air with helicopters hovering above.
I'd say that's newsworthy.
I would think it's newsworthy.
Of course, the question remains, why wasn't it covered?
Which, well, we know why, but we're still asking.
Because it's supposed to be a friendly island, because that's where we're going to have our hotels.
I didn't know there were UN troops with the blue helmets over there.
No.
Really?
You didn't know that?
What are you talking about?
I know they're setting up shop there.
No, there were like 30,000 UN guys there before the earthquake even hit.
They were just waiting.
They were ready.
Are you kidding me?
They were already over there.
During the earthquake, you never saw any blue helmets.
Yes, you did.
Yes, you did.
I'm sorry.
You're incorrect on that.
I forgot.
Demonstrators also burned the flag of Brazil, the nation that has contributed the largest contingent to the international peacekeeping force.
I love it.
Peacekeeping force.
Firing their guns in the air.
Haitians feel that the presence of the UN security personnel doesn't offer much in terms of ordinary Haitians living in camps.
Yeah, no shit.
Yeah, congratulations.
It's supposed to be a friendly island, so that's why you're not going to see anything.
And then further, an investigation by the Associated Press News Agency has determined that none of the $1.5 billion, or $1.15 billion, this is the money that they promised after the money they promised didn't come.
None of the $1.15 billion in rebuilding funding promised by the U.S. has arrived yet!
It's only been a year.
But there have been reports of a rise in drug trafficking and criminal gang activities.
And this, of course, spurred me on to go take a look at the Clinton Foundation once again, clintonfoundation.org, who literally you sent your money to.
And I'm still looking for the...
The form is IRS Form 990, I think it is.
Hold on, let me check.
I just want to make sure I'm saying it right.
Yeah, 990 for a 501c corporation.
And he has still not filed his for 2009.
And I looked up the IRS publications.
And this, by the way, is a document that is open for public record.
It states it so right there on the form that this is open for public scrutiny because, of course, they're not paying taxes.
It is required to file this on the first day of the fourth month preceding the year of which taxes are due.
You can get a three-month extension, which is not automatic.
You have to request it.
I'm sorry, it's the 15th day of the fourth month.
And you can...
I would say the Form 9-T has to be filed on the 15th day of the fifth month at the end of the tax year.
You get the three-month extension, and for some reason you can also get a second three-month extension.
I didn't know you could do that.
Yeah.
But apparently you can on a form of 990.
But that means October 15th.
It has to be filed now.
So it would be now, right?
Yeah.
Okay.
We just filed our taxes on October 15th.
Right.
Which I now believe may be the reason a lot of people didn't give us any donations this day.
I think our group is probably in the same kind of a category.
Put it off, put it off, and then pay.
It was way too much money we had to pay.
It was outrageous.
Did you have it all saved up?
Yeah, well, I don't have anything now.
I'm broke.
Literally.
Yeah, no, I hear you.
I hear you, my brother.
I mean, I'm saving everything.
That's why the economy is so screwed.
Because John and Adam aren't spending.
It's completely buggered.
Well, I'm sorry to hear that.
You're sorry.
Yeah.
I paid my taxes on time this year.
First time in a long time.
And, yeah, that sucked.
And then again, I didn't want to go into it.
It sucks.
It fucking sucks.
And it sucks the most when I know what it's going to.
It's going to these assholes.
And they're buying shit.
Giving it to bankers who then hire idiots to screw people out of their homes.
Douchebags, yeah.
And it's to go kill brown people in foreign lands.
Did you see this Hillary Clinton thing at the Commonwealth Club?
Yep.
I haven't taken any clips from it yet.
I was working on it.
Yeah, I did.
It's hard to listen to.
She's so boring.
Well, what I like about her is she at least, well, she doesn't, so unlike the president when it's about Pakistan, and actually I have an appropriate clip, it's about taxes.
This is kind of cool.
Unlike our president who just says, well, you know, right?
Just douches something out there.
What?
What did he say?
Clinton actually sits there and will talk for 20 minutes and lie her fat ass off.
Oh yeah, she's a non-stop chatterbox and she's a liar.
And one of our producers sent us a little note with actually some time codes.
Whenever she goes into lies, she touches her face.
You can watch her.
She's a real telegrapher on this one.
Yeah, you know, O'Reilly has a woman come on who does body language stuff.
Yes, yes.
And she's actually very...
I mean, I don't know how accurate any of this stuff is, but she's really interesting.
She's also hot, which is kind of cool.
She's kind of cute, yeah.
Yeah, she's hot.
But anyways, she comes on, and she caught...
They did a thing with Clinton, and the classic was...
And she explained it, and then you watch it, and you go, oh my God, she's right.
Clinton was saying...
She was saying something in a positive way while shaking her head back and forth.
Saying no.
I'm lying.
And then she'd say something.
No, I'm not going to do that while nodding her head.
I'm not going to do that.
It's crazy.
She really needs some training or she needs her MK Ultra chip adjusted because she's giving a lot away when she does that.
Yeah, no, listening to this woman dissect Clinton's body language is like, oh my god, Clinton, she just gives it everything, she gives it all away.
She's terrible.
She should just keep her head straight.
You know, she shouldn't move, wiggle, or do anything except talk.
And she should look straight ahead.
She gets too comfortable, right?
Because she's in a room of elites and all of her little ass-sucker friends.
And she's like Queen Bee and her nipples are all hard and stuff.
You know it.
You just know that she's totally getting off on this.
So here she is talking about Pakistan.
And this is total economic hitman stuff.
Total economic hitman stuff, where she is essentially saying, we've got a crackdown in Pakistan because they need to raise taxes to pay us for helping them.
I mean, is that not the definition of how economic hitman stuff works?
It's one of the models.
And she's touching her face the entire time.
It's just amazing.
In Pakistan as well as outside of Pakistan.
The United States cannot and should not be expected to help Pakistan with its development needs.
Development needs.
Notice that.
It needs some development.
Like, yeah, our presence there so we can own the region.
Unless Pakistanis do more to help themselves.
And that includes reforming a tax system that does not tax the elite and the landed property class.
Pakistan has one of the lowest tax per GDP percentages at 9% in the world.
This is amazing to me.
How many donations have we received from Pakistan?
None.
None.
This is a tax haven.
And they speak English there largely.
You guys got a ton of money over it.
9% tax.
They're not listening to our show.
That's the problem.
No kidding.
They got no problems.
They're like, hey, all they got are some drones.
Yeah, I'm paying 9% taxes.
Well, the drones are kind of a pain in the ass.
They got 9% tax rate, which is beautiful.
Awesome.
And it should, but, you know, and by some theories, I mean, there are low tax rates around the world in different countries.
9%.
Ours being extremely high.
Yeah.
Especially for corporations.
Yeah.
And, um...
So she's telling them how to run their country.
Yeah, interesting.
I like that.
And so we are working with them on reforming their tax system because some of the richest people in Pakistan pay less than $100 in all taxes.
Yeah, awesome.
Let's move to Pakistan.
Mickey, pack the bags!
We're going to Pakistan.
Wow.
Bring your boots.
Bring your rubber boots.
This is bullcrap, too.
Of course it's bullcrap.
But we are helping.
We are helping them reform their...
What are we doing?
Who are we?
Who does she represent?
Who does she think she is?
Who does she think she is?
My goodness.
When I was in London...
No, where was I? Brussels yesterday...
You hear everyone laugh, like, oh, that's so funny.
She's so busy.
She's so incredibly cool.
She doesn't even know where she is.
What day is this?
It's Tuesday.
Well, it must be Kalamazoo.
Like, she's a rock star.
And who was she hanging out with?
With that evil, elitist, baroness bitch.
I was with Kathy Ashton, who's the newly appointed high representative of the European Union.
I'll bet she's high.
I bet they're both sitting there.
Yeah, I'm hot.
Dude, I'm so baked.
How about you, Kathy?
I'm baked.
...press conference about aid for Pakistan, and I said, and she certainly echoed our expectation that the elite of Pakistan do more to help their own country if they expect us to help them.
Amazing talk.
Very interesting.
We're targeting them.
These guys are toast in some way, shape, or form.
We're going to take their country, their resources, we're going to take the pipeline, we're going to take their money, we're going to make them tax them and take it, and they're going to be wondering what happened.
They're going to be fighting us left and right, but it's going to be all those terrorists fighting us.
It sounds good.
Well, of course, there's only one real reason for us helping them, John.
You know why we're helping them, don't you?
Well, you tell me.
Al-Qaeda, of course.
I'm sorry.
No, no, no.
I'm sorry.
It's the Taliban.
I'm sorry.
New name.
Rebranded.
Rebranded.
Just really testing the waters on this.
And it is very challenging because many of the leaders live not in Afghanistan, but in Pakistan.
Oh, there you go.
They're in Pakistan.
I didn't know that.
That's funny.
Oh wait, that's all we've been talking about for the last 2, 3, 4, 5 years.
Then why are we even in Afghanistan?
And many of the sanctuaries for the Taliban in Pakistan is where the plan...
Sanctuary.
Do you have the same idea as sanctuary where there's palm trees and topless chicks walking around with mojitos?
Obama brought this whole meme into play before he got elected, and we should not be surprised by any of it.
What, the sanctuary?
Sanctuary?
Yeah, I mean, before he was elected, he may have to go bomb Pakistan because that's where all these guys are.
They're sanctuaries.
But don't you just get the idea that it's like a luxury sanctuary and they're all just hanging out and like plotting against them?
Actually, when I think of a sanctuary, that's the way your mind works.
When I think of a sanctuary, I think of like a kind of a calm Buddhist monastery surrounded by people chanting.
Yeah.
And the organization and the direction and the coordination with Al-Qaeda continues.
Sorry, we always got to bring him back in.
The coordination with Al-Qaeda.
Hey, Al-Qaeda, this is Taliban speaking.
We want to coordinate some coordinates with you.
Hello, Taliban.
Hello, this is Al-Qaeda.
We want to coordinate some coordination with you.
Success.
What does that mean?
So we have also, as part of the review that the President ordered back in January 2009, we have engaged much more intensely with the Pakistani leadership, both the civilian government and the military leadership, and have made it very clear to them that we want a different relationship, but we expect...
I really want a more open relationship.
It's just not working for me anymore.
I think we need to see other countries.
How are you feeling about it, John?
Their assistance in going after not just the Pakistani Taliban who threatened them, but the Afghan Taliban, the Haqqani Network, and Al Qaeda.
The what?
The Haqqani Network.
Haqqani Network?
Who are those guys?
This is new to me.
Who are the Haqqanis?
Haqqani Network.
Broadcast and live.
This is the Haqqani Network.
Hello, this is the Haqqani Network.
We want to coordinate with Taliban and with Okada.
He leads to the corner.
Oh, can I come and coordinate with you on sanctuary?
It's like a movie.
It's like a total.
And I, I cut the applause off of that clip, It's like a George Clooney movie.
Oh, yes.
Oh, yes, Hillary.
Clinton Clooney for 2012.
Clinton Clooney.
What a ticket.
What a ticket.
Hakani.
How do you spell Hakani?
I don't know.
I never heard it before, this speech.
Here, H-A-Q-Q-U-A-N-I? Hold on a second.
Maybe.
H-A-Q-Q-U-A-N-I. Hakani.
Oh, here it is.
Hakani Network.
There's also Hakani Soul.
It's a new type.
It's the new music sweeping the nation.
Here, Hakani Network.
Wikipedia has a whole article on it.
Oh, here we go.
The Haqqani Network is an independent insurgent group in Afghanistan.
Oh, independent.
They're coordinating.
No, no, no, no.
Well, wait a minute.
They're closely allied with the Taliban.
They're allied.
Aha.
Alright.
The network is thought to present...
I guess I meant represent.
Present one of the biggest threats to NATO and the United States forces in Afghanistan.
Following WikiLeaks July 2010 publication...
Oh, okay.
Oh, there we go.
There we go.
Okay, so this is a new name.
I'm sure it means something like doots bag.
If you just translate Haqqani...
Can Google translate Pakistani?
You can put it in a...
Somebody in the chat room probably speaks Pakistani.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And we don't have people who donate.
How do you figure we got someone in the chat room who speaks Pakistani?
Well, I think...
I don't know.
Maybe the Pakistanis are cheaper than the Indians.
How is that?
Let me just see.
Pakistani.
What do they speak there?
They don't speak Pakistani.
It's not what they speak.
English.
What do they speak in Pakistan?
It's a language.
Yeah, but it's not...
The Google Translate has...
It's not Hindu.
Persian, Polish, Portuguese.
Yeah, they speak Polish.
Let me see what happens if I translate Haqqani from Polish into English.
Let's see.
Hey, it's Haqqani without the U. There you go.
I think they speak mostly Urdu.
Urdu?
Yeah, U-R-D-U, Urdu.
No, Google doesn't translate that.
Why not?
It's U-R-D-U. Oh, here it is.
No, you're right.
I'm sorry.
You got it.
It means alpha.
Oh, interesting.
Oh, great.
They're the alpha males.
So the top dogs, the first, the number one, the leaders of the pack.
We're number one.
So it's just a code name.
Yeah, I want to think, you know, I think what we need is a...
What's a Hakadi?
Is that the name?
Yeah, Hakani.
Hakani.
Hakani.
We need one of those big, giant foam fingers.
Yeah.
Number one!
That says number one on it and put the logo on it.
We're alpha, baby.
We should make those No Agenda Haqqani number one foam fingers.
Perfect.
It's a new premium.
Alright, speaking of premiums, since it'll be a very short list, let's thank some people.
Yeah, we also have a night, a black night, and a one birthday.
Who's the black night?
We got nothing this week, ladies and gentlemen.
Ray Mingual, Jersey City, New Jersey, sent us a double nickels on the dime.
No comment.
Lori Carpe is still on her knighthood layaway, and that is common.
Chris Lewinsky, Sherwood Park, Alberta, Canada, $50.
that's it.
I also only see one birthday, John, unless I'm mistaken.
I've got Kelly.
I've made another, but I don't see it either.
I only see one.
Kelly Spears wants to wish her amazing husband, Aaron Spears, a very happy 33rd birthday today.
And who's our black knight?
Our black knight is Dennis Cruz, who has been contributing and has documented his...
Ah, okay.
Hold on a second.
Dennis...
That's right.
Dennis Cruz.
Right.
We had to do the math, but we'd like Dennis Cruz to step forward, please.
Dennis, come on over here for a second.
First of all, our apologies as...
Your donations were so supportive over a long period of time, we had to really search through the archives to figure it all out.
But thank God you did your own accounting.
So let's just draw swords here for a second.
John, your sword.
There you go.
Dennis Cruz, we're here by Night V. Sir, Dennis Cruz, Knight of the No Agenda Roundtable.
For you, sir, bountiful hookers and blows.
So Cruz will be the last guy installed into the 10-10-10 knighthood, the order of the 10-10-10s, the triple 10s.
Right.
And that's it.
Okay.
Well, that means dry bread and water this week.
Crap.
Yeah, I think the tax thing is that and Clooney caused this downturn in donations.
We have to pick it up.
And I don't want to hound people with emails constantly.
So, you know, I'd just rather they listen to us beg for money and their own karma on the show.
And you can go to Dvorak.org slash NA, channeldvorak.com slash NA or thenoagendashow.com and link to the donations.
All of the deals are there for you to take advantage of.
Yeah, and...
Maybe we just don't restate it often enough that we've chosen for a model that just doesn't work the way typical media does.
It kind of works for us, but not well enough.
It's never worked well enough, but I feel it's the right way to go because we can literally sit here and we can say anything we need to or we feel necessary, and we get tons of people who appreciate what we're doing.
Right, we need more listeners, which would help.
And by the way, we would make twice as much money the way I figured, or more, maybe three times as much if we had advertising, but we cannot sustain advertising on this show.
I mean, Adam Curry cannot talk about...
The Secretary of State having hard nipples, I mean, you listened earlier, and no advertiser will put up with that, because, oh, you can't say that, it's rude!
I'm amazed you put up with it, John.
It's amazing I put up with it, but I find it like it's an eye roller sometimes, and sometimes it's amusing, and sometimes the image is just something you don't want to think about, so I blank it out.
I even got an eye roll for Mickey on that one.
She went like, what?
You know what we're missing?
We're missing, we need telephones ringing.
That's the problem, John.
Yeah, we've got to have our telephones ringing when we're asking for money at demarc.org slash NA. Hey, we've got the callback standing by.
And by the way, in October, we are having a couple extra shows because of the weird month that it is, which has been nothing but bad luck this month.
And that's shit.
Which I think is some of the...
So once we're out of this month, hopefully things will improve.
But we're providing, I guess this month, maybe 20 hours of rock-solid...
You know, programming for people who are mostly commuters.
We will admit that most of our listeners are commuters stuck in their car.
And, you know, you're getting something for it.
And it's good conversation starters at a cocktail party.
And you could probably develop a lot of love-hate relationships using some of the material we develop.
Yeah.
You know, at least you will be entertained.
You may break up, you may get fired, but your co-workers may shun you forever.
No, but in all seriousness, most people that listen to this show are very appreciative of it because they actually live in more harmony...
Knowing, at least, when you know that you're being lied to and bullshitted at, then at least you can sit and go, okay, I know.
At least I'm okay.
It's like a shield.
It's like the Harry Potter...
The bullshit filter.
The Harry Potter shield of something.
Yeah, what is that thing called?
The cape of...
The cape of something.
Hey, how come we don't know that?
Because we're not watching that bullshit.
That's why we don't know that.
We're spending too much time watching C-SPAN. Whoa.
So we want to thank people who do donate.
By the way, we could use some more subscribers.
Yeah, the five-monthers.
If you don't feel like you can send us $50 to $200, you want to just subscribe, $5 a month.
We've got $30 a month subscriptions, the lucky $30 a month subscription, also $33.33, and $42 a month.
There's these options.
And you can do that, and that helps.
It brings the bottom line up a little bit.
And anyone who gives us less, you know, we appreciate that.
That's a shitty way.
We don't appreciate, by the way, the people who send in 10 cents.
Oh, really?
We get that?
We don't really get any money out of that.
PayPal takes the whole 10 cents.
And the only reason they're doing it is to either be on the mailing list or as a joke or to complicate our bookkeeping or whatever.
Yeah, that helps.
You know, find somebody else to pester.
The cape of gayness.
I'm looking at the chat room help us.
The Cape of Gayness.
Yeah, no, that's not what it is.
That's disgusting.
That is totally wrong.
Douchebag!
That is so wrong.
Give him a douchebag, that guy.
Dvorak.org slash NA or channeldvorak.com slash NA. So this was a late-breaking story that came in about implants that may help heroin addiction.
Totally loving this.
Now that we've indoctrinated everyone with our cheap heroin coming from Afghanistan, which of course is one of the true reasons we're there, is to import that shit.
Did you see this story, John?
Nope.
People addicted to heroin or prescription opiates might have a hands-free device.
This is great.
This is from Wired.
These guys write well, though.
Hands-free for getting through the rigors of drug withdrawal.
I like the rigors.
John, you know...
Rigors.
When I was kicking off of heroin, it was a real rigmarole.
It was just rigors.
That's a rigmarole.
I just had rigors of...
Okay.
The medication buprenorphine.
I suck at this.
Buprenorphine.
Buprenorphine?
I don't know.
Just give me the spelling.
B-U-P-R-E-N-O-R-P-H-I-N-E. Buprenorphine.
B-U-P-R-E-N-O-R-P-H-I-N-E. Buprenorphine.
So anyway, if you have this stuff implanted under the skin and released over a 24-week period, it can ease drug cravings and it actually helps some patients stay clean, according to a report in the Journal of American Medical Association.
So this is the real deal here.
Buropronef and John, before you look it up, is a semi-synthetic opioid compound prescribed for pain relief and for addiction withdrawal.
Is this the shot thing that these guys were hawking earlier?
I have no idea.
It works something like methadone, which of course they still hand it out in Gitmo Nation Lowlands to heroin abusers.
And so apparently now you can have this just implanted in your body and you'll feel good.
And you have like a double high.
When you can't get your fix, then you're on this shit.
How do you make this stuff?
That's the question.
Is it made from the real deal?
I mean, is it a byproduct of opium?
Do you keep the opium poppy fields in business?
Yeah, I think it does.
It's semi-synthetic, so that means part of it is the real deal, right?
I don't know.
I'm talking it up here, and you should be Googling that stuff, man.
I'm Googling now, but I'm Googling something...
You can't spell it?
No, I'm looking at something else.
You're looking at porn!
Stop that!
Stop Googling porn here.
Here it is.
Wikipedia.
The Ministry of Truth Speaks.
Semi-synthetic opioid...
Jesus, Wired copied the fucking Wikipedia entry.
Oh, oh, oh, oh, here it is.
It is a Bentley derivative opioid.
John, it's the Rolls Royce of drugs.
It's a Bentley derivative.
What does that mean?
It says here, a Bentley derivative opioid of the Phanatherine class with extremely high binding affinity and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Whatever.
Uh, hmm.
Oh, Wreck-It distributes this.
Those are the guys who do soap powder.
Who?
Wreck-It.
Wreck-It.
Wreck-It?
Yeah.
Wreck-It?
Yes, Wreck-It, yeah.
Like Wreck-It?
Hey, get into Wreck-It.
Let's Wreck-It.
No, R-E-C-K-I-T-T. They do like the dishwashing powder and stuff.
They're a huge chemical company.
They sell ads on Mevio all the time.
So I think for our book club, and the reason what I was looking at, because I for some reason couldn't remember William Burroughs' name, there is a novel by William Burroughs called Junkie.
Uh-huh.
And he talks about getting off of heroin addiction using something called apomorphine, which again would be...
And apparently what apomorphine does is you switch over to it, and then any time you're confronted with heroin, you start puking your guts up to such an extreme that you just can't...
You have second thoughts.
Yes, second thoughts.
Hmm, let me see.
And so...
And he was always, in his novel, he was baffled by the fact that the powers that be would not generally adopt this technology, this technique for getting people off of heroin, instead making them addicted to something else.
Duh.
Duh.
So you've just spoiled the book.
I'm just saying, he was just baffled supposedly by this.
Why do we even have to read the book now?
Now that we know that this is spoiled.
Spoiler.
Hey, John, how much of a slave are you?
Let me give you this one.
I'm sure people emailed this to you, just guffawing.
TSA rolls out body scanners at SeaTac Airport, your favorite.
Don't you fly to SeaTac from time to time?
I fly out of SeaTac quite a bit.
Yeah.
Security screeners will start asking people flying out of SeaTac Airport to submit to full-body scans in about a week's time.
14 backscatter x-ray machines will be installed at the airport.
Planning to have 450 machines operating at 33 airports, including SeaTac, by the end of the year.
Another 500 next year.
Yeah, Johnny boy.
Well, you know what?
It's kind of cool.
Because we know your 12 insurers are going to be like, Dude, here's that dude again!
Come on, bring him through, man!
Here he comes!
You can't believe this guy!
You should just be doing it just to piss him off.
So what are you going to do?
Are you going to decline?
Are you going to opt out?
Yeah, I'll just let him, you know, grope me.
Opt out!
Opt out!
Stand by!
We have an opt-outer!
Why are you opting out, boy?
You got a problem with that?
I'm telling you, when you go through...
I want to tell everyone out there to do this.
When you go through the blind...
Why are you opting out?
Because those things have radiation and they cause cataracts.
And when you guys are working around them are going to be blind in a couple of years.
Cataracts.
Just say that to every TSA guy.
It's not against the law.
No.
It's probably true.
Close enough.
Tell them Adam and John sent you.
Say, hey, who told you that?
John C. Dvorak, who comes through here at least once a month.
You know, the guy with the 12-incher.
Oh, that guy.
Is that his name?
Is that his name?
Oh, now we know what the C stands for.
And I forgot to say, happy White Cane Safety Day, John.
And while I'm at it, happy National Character Counts Week.
Character Counts?
Yes.
Starting this week, America's strength, even in its most challenging of times, is founded in the spirit and character of our people.
During National Character Counts Week, we reflect upon the values of equality, fairness, and compassion that lie at the heart of our country.
I wonder if there's a National Self-Esteem Week.
It's probably coming up, but this is...
I went on whitehouse.gov, as I do every single Sunday morning, to look at our president's YouTube address, which is all about Democrats good, Republicans bad.
But then you look at the proclamations, and it is National Character Counts Week.
Character Counts Week.
And then I like White Cane Safety Day.
The white cane, in addition to being a practical mobility tool...
Who writes this shit?
The president puts his signature...
Doesn't he sit there and go, what am I signing, man?
The white cane, in addition to being a practical mobility tool, serves as a symbol of dignity, freedom, and independence for individuals who are blind or visually impaired.
On White Cane Safety Day, our nation celebrates the immeasurable contributions the Americans who use canes have made as valued members of...
I can't even say this!
So we can't...
Here's what's coming.
You can't say blind people.
You have to say Americans who use canes.
A lot of people use canes.
Now the thing is, why don't they emphasize what the real purpose of these kinds of days are with the white canes.
If you see somebody with a white cane, hit the brakes for God's sakes.
You know, if they're in the street or something, or if you see somebody confused at a corner, I do this all the time.
We have a...
Because we have a blind...
You know, I did that once in New York and I got yelled at.
By the person?
Yes.
I was with Chris.
Ah, that's okay.
No, listen, I was with Chris Jacob, and the guy's trying to cross the street, but he trapped him.
There was like trash cans and shit, and the light post, and he's like trapped, and he's like, you know, like one of those robot vacuum cleaners.
He's like bouncing off all this stuff.
Yeah, yeah, he's trapped in the corner.
I'm like, hey, excuse me, sir, can I help you out?
He got pissed.
Oh, shit, man.
I'm sorry.
Well, he was having a bad day.
I know, but I was like, wow, fuck.
I'm sorry.
I just wanted to help.
I have helped.
A number of people have said, yo, hold on a second.
You're going the wrong way or something.
Just because, you know, they're in a situation where they're hearing a beep beep.
Beep, beep, but it doesn't tell you which way to go.
Beep, beep, beep, beep, beep.
Because there's a lot of these lights around here in the Bay Area are triggered with these little sounds.
I'll tell you, if anyone is actually serious about helping Americans with canes, then fix your freaking website and make it accessible.
All right?
That is the number one complaint ever.
Americans with canes, because we can't say blind people anymore.
You can either say, you might be able to say visually impaired, but you have to say Americans with canes.
Yeah, and you can't make a website using Ajax.
Or Flash.
If you really want to help, if you really, really want to help, then go and fix your website.
We're the biggest offenders of that, I'm sure.
I'm sure our sites are not at all, what is it, accessible.
No, I think our sites are very accessible.
I don't know.
Except for the graphics.
I don't know.
When you get tables and stuff like that, it really messes up the screen readers.
No, that's true.
Your sites are indeed great looking.
But it's true, though.
That's really true.
Anyway, I'm just seeing this coming.
I'm seeing this Americans with canes thing.
It's like you can't say blind anymore because it's hateful or whatever.
You know, we probably have quite a few blind listeners because they like to listen to podcasts.
Yes.
In fact, I know of several.
And I'm amazed sometimes.
I have people who are blind who use the big app show.
Which is pretty cool.
Well, they must just like your voice.
Yeah, well, they understand what I'm talking about.
I don't know if these phones have screen readers and how they get through it, but...
Anyway, if we can do anything to help Americans with canes, let us know.
Besides these bogus...
Whatever.
Whatever that was.
The West Wing Week, which is the reality show the President has...
This, it's...
Oh, my God.
This guy does nothing.
Just listen to it.
Welcome to the West Wing Week, your guide to everything that's happening at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.
This week, the president focused on infrastructure education in the economy, including several meetings with students of all ages.
That's October 8th to the 14th, or I Spy.
I spy.
What is that?
What?
I spy?
What is this?
This is the reality show.
Why are we wasting the taxpayers' money with this bull crap?
Every single week, there's a reality show called West Wing Week with this great voiceover.
They probably did auditions for this guy.
And he talks about the president's incredibly busy week.
And I want you to listen because it's a great show, John.
It's a great show.
I spy.
In fact, someone's probably making 50 grand an episode for this piece of crap.
On Monday, October 11th, President Obama held a meeting on the economic impact of infrastructure investment on our states and local communities in the state dining room.
After the meeting, the president made a statement in the Rose Garden where he emphasized...
I wish you could see this video.
This guy sounds like the Leave it to Bieber character.
I wish you could see this video.
And actually, you have to watch it.
Everyone has to watch this week's West Wing Week.
Because they have this economic thing in the Rose Garden.
And this is behind the scenes footage, so it is kind of cool to watch.
I mean, it's all masked by this horrible voiceover and the crappy editing and everything.
But Obama is so rude.
And so he manhandles everyone.
He comes up behind little Timmy Geithner.
And he pushes him forward.
Legit grabs him by both shoulders from behind, like, Hey, Sean, come on, little Timmy.
He's the Secretary of Finance.
Of the Treasury, whatever the hell he is.
And he grabs him like he's a little kid, and the president says, whatever you do, don't trip!
Fixing our aging roads, rails, and runways won't just make the economy...
Here he is, he's grabbing Timmy from behind, pushing him.
Move, Timmy, move!
Don't trip, Timmy!
Whatever you do, don't trip, Timmy!
By investing in these projects, we've already created hundreds of thousands of jobs.
Yeah, blah, blah, blah.
Yeah, we've probably, probably, hey, John, I think we've probably done that.
Probably.
Wow.
You know, we just are so stupid.
We're so stupid we buy all this crap.
But you really have to see that video.
It really shows you what's going on there.
This is like one big power trip that's happening.
Yeah, no, I'm going to watch it now religiously.
The acting is not much worse than on CSI or NCIS or any of that stuff, you know.
Couldn't be.
So I was watching the C-SPAN over the last week.
I didn't get a lot.
I got two interesting stories out of the whole thing.
Well, excuse me.
When you do something like that, we have to remind people of something very important.
It's what we do, so you don't have to.
C-spin.
So now I'm convinced that they're grooming, I think that's just a backup plan, they're grooming Condi Rice for a presidential run.
Really?
Wow, wait a minute.
This is new information.
Yeah, this is interesting.
And the reason I suggest that is...
She's being groomed.
C-SPAN gave a talk in front of the press club about her new book, which obviously she's going to have this book, and I guarantee it will be another book within the next year.
Well, that's what you do.
You write a book, and then you become president.
She has to have at least two books to counter Obama's two books.
And she has to have one book about her father, and this book is about family, which includes her father, who is apparently a preacher, a Republican preacher, a black Republican preacher, which had to be hilarious, who liked to hang out with guys like Stokely Carmichael and the rest of them.
It must be a fascinating story.
I'll read it, by the way.
What's the name of the book?
I'm going to get it right now.
I'll read this.
I read Sarah Palin's book.
I'll read Condi Rice's book.
Go look it up while I'm talking.
It's not the world's greatest title.
It's Dreams from My Mother?
Is that what it is?
It could be.
It's something like that, but it's mostly about her dad.
And so they're trying to change her style.
She's actually quite funny.
She's very pleasant.
She gave a really good speech.
Then she got serious.
And, you know, she's got furrowed eyebrows, you know.
Cap tooth.
Cap tooth.
And she drops a couple of bombs.
And I always say, why would you, why do you, like, when I'm talking to, say I go to some little, I'm talking to some local show, I say, yeah, no, I'm doing a podcast with my really good friend and confidant, Adam Curry, instead of, I'm doing a podcast with Adam Curry.
Why would I say, why would I add all this embellishment, especially if I have a bunch of different people I'm talking about, to one person?
Let me ask you something.
When someone says that, do you never say with my good friend Adam Curry?
Never.
Why would I? I'm crushed.
stunned.
So, uh, sorry, I don't, you know, I'm doing the show with you.
I don't have to, What difference does it make to anybody, whether we're friends or not, in the sense of things?
I mean, in the broader spectrum, it doesn't make any sense at all.
Tell me you don't follow it up by saying, you know, the guy who used to be on MTV or something douchey like that.
I don't do that.
I think that's rude.
Thank you very much.
That's very nice.
I also don't say, you know, he's a lot older than I am.
I never say that.
He's an asshole.
He's a douche.
He's a doots.
So play a Condi Rice who gives her two bits about gays in the military.
What this has to do with her biography, I don't know.
In light of the recent debate in the Senate and court rulings, what are your thoughts on Don't Ask, Don't Tell?
Do you favor repeal?
Well, first of all, I think it will be repealed.
I leave this in the hands of my good friend Bob Gates and the Joint Chiefs of Staff.
It's absolutely the case that military effectiveness and military efficiency has to be the first concern of the Secretary of Defense and of the military leadership.
I believe that if given time to work through this particular issue, they will be able to achieve the repeal without damage to military effectiveness and military efficiency.
But again, this is something that I have very strong faith in the people, because I know them, who are charged with trying to get this done.
And let's give them the time to get it done.
Wow.
She says, uh...
That's funny.
They got to correct that.
That was another...
You're telling me Robert Gates...
Look at Robert Gates, that guy, the CIA guy.
You mean Bob Gates.
Bob Gates, good friend.
My Bob Gates.
It's like when you...
Instead of saying Robert De Niro, the whole world knows him as Robert De Niro.
But if you're George Clooney, you get to say Bob.
Or Bobby.
Bobby.
Oh, no, that's if you're Leonardo DiCaprio.
Then you get to say Bobby.
So Condi Rice, you know, Bob Gates.
No one calls the guy Bob Gates.
It's like calling the President Barry.
Does she say that?
Yeah, my good friend the President Barry.
Hey, Barry.
Hey, Barry.
So she's trying to get it together.
So they ask her point blank about running for office and she gives a bogus answer.
Hillary Clinton had the same answer when she was running for senator about she's never going to run for president.
And Rice goes on about she doesn't feel like she's ever going to run for anything, but she's still going to do some work for the country.
Play the rice running for office in the world today.
You state in your book that you don't have the fire in the belly to seek elective office.
Is there any circumstance under which that could change?
Not that I can see.
I really, you know, pretty soon if you're asked a thousand times, will you run for this, will you run for that, and you keep saying the time isn't right, pretty soon you realize maybe the time just is never going to be right.
And so I'll find my ways to do public service.
I think you can tell I'm very committed to K-12 education reform.
That for me is probably our greatest national security priority right now.
Hold on a second.
K-12 education reform is the biggest contribution to our national security?
Did I misunderstand what she said?
That's exactly what she said.
So wait a minute, so K-12 education reform is the single most...
Let's hear it again, let's hear it again.
...right now, because if we don't do that, we're not...
Hold on a second, let me just...
No, back it.
Yeah, back that up, hold on.
Probably our greatest...
A little bit further, sorry about that, here we go.
That for me is probably our greatest national security priority right now.
K-12 education reform is our greatest national security priority.
Let's get this quote right.
Hold on.
And so I'll find my ways to do public service.
I think you can tell I'm very committed to K-12 education reform.
That for me is probably our greatest national security priority right now.
Wait a second.
Let me just Google that.
We have to re-educate the populace.
K-12 education reform.
Do you think it'll actually say this is our biggest...
It might say that right there on the Ministry of Truth website.
National security priority.
We have to make sure everyone's on the same page.
This is crazy.
Why does she say that?
Because this is all part of some scheme that we have no idea what the basis is.
All we're doing is pulling things out of thin air that don't make sense or they're being dropped as bombs.
By the way, in this little clip, she doesn't say, uh, uh, uh.
Yeah, no, because this is the script.
This is rehearsed.
This is the script.
If we don't do that, we're not going to be a strong and confident country and we'll turn in and we'll protect...
So there are lots of ways...
Oh, there's the answer.
Oh, we should have listened.
She gives us the answer because we're going to turn to a bunch of wimps.
No, no, we're going to...
No, no.
Isolationists.
Is that what she said?
We're going to be a strong and confident country and we'll turn in and we'll protect.
So there are lots of ways to do...
Turn in and protect.
Turn in and protect.
Those are the two key words.
We're going to turn in and protect.
In other words, we're going to become isolationists.
We're not going to be...
We're not going to keep moving toward the great one world government.
Oh.
Which brings me to the old John Bolton clip, which I just coincidentally have on here.
Let's play it as a reminder.
Herman Van Rompuy, the former Prime Minister of Belgium, said in his inaugural address, which I'm sure you've all read, right?
In his inaugural address, in November of last year, he described 2009, and I'm quoting, as the first year of global governance with the establishment of the G20 in the middle of the financial crisis.
The climate conference in Copenhagen is another step toward the global management of our planet.
Close quote.
So this is the attitude, the approach of many people who favor moving toward global governance.
And so I think we're entitled to ask, one year into the Obama administration, what is the president's view of American sovereignty?
How does he view...
These issues.
And I think we can see already that the President has, President Obama, has a very different view of American sovereignty than the long line of presidents, certainly since Franklin Roosevelt.
In some respects, he harks back to Woodrow Wilson in his devotion to multilateralism as a process and as an outcome.
But I think it goes beyond that as well.
President Obama, for example, said in September of last year to the General Assembly, It is my deeply held belief that in the year 2009, more than at any point in human history, the interests of nations and peoples are shared.
In an era where our destiny is shared, power is no longer a zero-sum game.
Yeah.
You know, we have to...
One of the things we do on this show, which is discuss this move toward losing U.S. sovereignty and global governance, we have to remind the listeners every so often about this, and this is the kind of thing...
Condi Rice is obviously on board with this whole, you know, letting somebody else tell us what to do.
And there's a fractal aspect to this, which is kind of interesting, and I think it reflects this Tenth Amendment concern that a lot of people have...
Prankful.
And, you know, by the way, Mandelbrot just died.
He just died.
I know.
I was going to bring that up.
And, you know, I was thinking that's a fractal that means everybody's going to die.
Thanks.
You needed me to ask the question to set you up.
It would have been better if it was a setup.
It would have been much better.
So anyway, so the idea is that, you know, that government comes from the top and we don't really run...
The United States is supposed to be a federal government.
Again, we talk about the book Nullification.
And the thing that's brought this...
And brought these clips to mind, and what brought the whole topic to mind with me was this last week, Eric Holder coming out and...
Yeah, and saying, we're going to come in there and kick California's ass!
We have 10% of our listeners in California, apparently.
And I want to tell everybody, whether you think that Proposition 19 should or should not be voted for, you should vote yes on this thing just to see what happens.
Because the federal government has told California, point blank, that we don't care what you do.
We're going to enforce the federal law, which of course is essentially unconstitutional.
And I just ask the question, people say, well, so what?
Federal law, Trump, state law?
No, it doesn't.
And I keep getting emails with people that are having this whole thing mistaken.
They're buying into this argument that the New York Times put out there, that the federal law is already there.
You can't change it with a state law, which is not true.
And ask yourself the following.
Why was the Prohibition Act, the Volstead Act passed?
Why was there amendment passed in the first place?
And why are amendments passed at all if it's just a federal law can be written?
Just ask yourself if somebody argues about this.
So then why do we have constitutional amendments when apparently any old federal law will do the trick?
What's the point of a constitutional amendment?
Just make a federal law.
A federal law trumps everything.
That's bogus.
That's the reason you have to have constitutional amendments, and that's the reason California can pass this, and they should put people on the border, keep the feds out if they're going to come in, and essentially kidnap.
By the way, this is what happened during the Wisconsin situation, back before the Civil War, where they wouldn't let these Southerners come down and steal blacks from the North that were supposedly fugitive slaves, because they couldn't prove they were.
And so they said, no, this is kidnapping.
And the fact of the matter is, you know, unlawful detention, kidnapping is what the feds would be doing if they came in and started busting people for smoke and dope in California if we passed Proposition 19.
It's going to be a huge issue.
It's going to be worth watching.
But it's going to show you exactly where the federal government comes down.
And the liars, like Obama, who said they were going to stop cracking down on medical marijuana places, I mean, he basically just lied about it because they still do it.
So I'm starting to, I've always kind of been on the sideline of this debate.
And I really haven't debated you on it.
I believe it's going to pass, and I have a little different take on it.
I've got some information that people have been sending me.
This whole Proposition 19 is really being propagated by an outfit called the DPA. Are you familiar with them?
The DPA? I might be, but I'm not.
The Drug Policy Alliance.
You can find it at drugpolicy.org.
And they were formed in July 2000 when the Linda Smith Center, an activist drug policy think tank established in 1994, merged with the Drug Policy Foundation, a membership and grant-making organization established in 1987 to create the world's leading drug policy reform organization of people who believe the war on drugs is doing more harm than good.
So I start looking into this organization, which has a very interesting...
Board of Directors.
I'd like to mention a few of them to you.
How about Paul Volcker?
Paul Volcker, John.
How about George Soros?
These people are on the board of the DPA. These are special executive board members.
And I'm thinking...
There is some specific mention in Proposition 19 about not just marijuana, but about hemp.
And hemp, the derivative of the marijuana plant, outside of the really good stuff that bakes you, Actually, there's a lot of hemp plants that have almost no THC in them.
Correct.
Correct.
And I believe it's going to pass and there will be a federal or centralized regulation of hemp, which is an industry that is worth trillions of dollars.
Do you know that hemp burns hotter than coal?
You know you can use it as fuel?
I mean, this is a magical, magical thing.
And I think all of this is a red herring just so that the government can get control and regulate hemp.
It's not about the marijuana part.
It's not about the smoke.
Who cares?
I don't think anyone gives a crap about who's smoking it or why, although the medicinal properties, I think, are very valuable.
But hemp by itself is an incredibly valuable product.
It is a trillion-dollar industry.
And that, I think, is what this debate is actually about, is who's going to control the regulation of hemp?
Not of marijuana, but of hemp.
Monsanto is the answer, by the way.
Monsanto is the answer.
Monsanto.
You're probably right, but I like the idea.
The offshoot of this is still going to be a Tenth Amendment showdown, which is fine with me if they want to go off on this hemp thing.
Hemp also makes paper, by the way, paper products.
Sure, paper, clothing, all kinds of stuff.
And by the way, who's going to own the patent on the genetically modified hemp?
You know it's Monsanto.
But the thing is, you're going to bring in Soros and these other guys, fine.
I mean, just because somebody's attached their name to something doesn't mean we should say, oh, well, let's vote no.
No, no, no, I'm not saying that.
I'm just saying that I think we should vote yes, obviously.
I mean, I'm a pot smoker.
I was, you know, so yeah.
Here's the thing that gets me about what you just brought up, and I'm looking at their website right now.
Mm-hmm.
Why aren't they putting some fucking money into promoting the yes side of it?
I don't see any ads.
I mean, Soros has got nothing but dough.
Why are they holding back on throwing out some...
Maybe it's going to be at the last minute, which probably is the most effective way to advertise, but I haven't seen one pro or con ad on Proposition 19 by anybody.
Let me see what's under events.
Let me see if they're doing anything.
College, college, Prague.
No, your question is valid.
Well, Russell Simmons is also on the board.
And here's the other thing.
They've got a Donate Now button.
And by the way, don't donate to these guys.
Donate to Dvorak.org.
Hey, they've got podcasts, dude.
They've got podcasts.
Cool.
Well, who listens to any of this stuff?
This is very poorly done.
Well, let's have a listen to the pot podcast.
Let's see.
Wow.
Well, they need some production help.
Hey, everybody.
Welcome to the...
This is a broadcast of the Drug Policy Alliance, the nation's leading organization working to end the war on drugs.
To join our movement or learn more about drug policy reform, please visit our website at www.drugpolicy.com.
Oh, these guys are good.
I'm Jeanette Irwin, and today is Monday, March 2nd, 2009.
Jesus Christ, 2009.
That's their podcast.
This is the new podcast.
Yeah, that's great.
Come on, there's got to be a newer one than this.
No, I'm looking at it right here.
That's the most recent one.
Audio Archive.
That's it, man.
Oh, this is lame.
These guys aren't very sincere in their work.
Well, no.
I think they're just in there to help with the regulation.
They don't care.
They don't really care.
It's not about pot smokers.
It's about the hemp.
Yeah, no, I'm getting that.
But let's go on.
Let's listen to another minute of this.
Really?
Well, here's the...
It's got that dead NPR sound, you know, that dead room.
We are a nation of cowards.
Oh, I get a 404 error.
These guys suck.
They suck.
This is the leading organization.
Maybe they're all stoned.
Russell Simmons is on the board.
Hey, Soros, go look at this website and tell me what you're doing with your money.
Really, dude?
Well, Soros, they have a...
Volker.
Volker's an old fart.
Let's face it, this is a reflection of that.
Yeah.
I'm just saying.
I'm just saying that I think there's something very big going on here.
It's a bit poorly.
No, this website is poor.
Website, the podcast sucks.
What are they doing with their donations?
That's what I'd like to know.
They're giving themselves salaries.
I already looked at that.
By the way, their last Form 990 is from 2007.
They don't even have 2008 up, let alone 2009.
How does that happen?
How do these people get away with it?
John, we're stupid.
We have to start a 501C and just not file anything.
You don't have to file anything.
You just take the money, don't pay taxes, and don't file it and just come up with a stupid website and throw up a podcast from 2009 and get a bunch of jabroni doutzes on the board.
We're dumb.
We're really dumb.
We're going about this the wrong way.
Apparently.
We're asking people to help us.
Help us pay bills.
So, anyway, the 10th Amendment showdown is going to happen, and this is going to cause it.
Of course, California leads the way with this.
It would be so ironic that all these people from all over the place are moaning and groaning about the 10th Amendment, and then a dope legalized drug thing takes place, and next thing you know, the feds will back off.
I think they will, too.
They don't want a 10th Amendment showdown.
Nobody does.
Nobody in the federal government wants a 10th Amendment showdown.
Yeah, so when I brought this up in my conversation with those who will not go named during my dinner at Bobby's restaurant...
Molly and...
Don't do that!
You know, I got the...
Yeah, but, you know, this is the way it is.
The Tenth Amendment says the states are, you know, we make our own shit up.
You know, the federal government can't come in and tell us what to do.
Yeah, but that's, you know, outdated.
This is...
It's outdated?
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's accepted the way we do it now.
It's accepted that we have the leader of the free world running our ass.
It's accepted.
This is how we do things here.
This is how we do things in America.
And by the way, some of the people at the table were not Democrats.
Not.
Not Democrats.
This is just misguided.
It hurts me.
It upsets me.
Yes, since you're right there, you can do direct propaganda.
And you can't get any headway.
It's terrible.
That's because this is so entrenched.
It's not just, you know, these folks and others.
It's just that we get emails, you do and I do both, we get emails with somebody who comes up, they see something, and it's so obviously wrong the way they're seeing it because you can see that they're still, to get people untwisted...
From these models that have been drummed into them, which really want us to be run by a national government, for example, and to just ignore the way the Constitution was set up or the way the country was set up because it's outdated.
It's just so entrenched.
The schools pounded into you for years.
We're talking about decades of education that pound this nonsense into people, and to undo all that damage is almost impossible with most people.
When I was reading Nullification, which is a great book, by the way.
I think it's still at the No Agenda Book Club, noagendabooks.com.
Make sure you get this book.
And please, as much as I love you guys, please don't send me a million audiobook versions.
My email box is getting full.
I have to call this thing now.
But do send me stories when you think you're the hundredth person to send it.
Don't stop there, but be careful what you attach.
That's kind of a pain.
So I'm reading this, I'm thinking, can't we start our own state?
I mean, what's the rule on that?
How does that work?
Can we start our own state?
How do you become a state?
Well, actually, there is a way to become a state.
I mean, I know California could be split into three if it wanted to, which I think would be a smart idea.
Do you have to own the land, actually, to become a state?
I think everyone has to agree.
I think there has to be some sort of a...
I don't know.
I don't know.
You can become...
For one thing, the federal system requires that everybody agree that, okay, I think all the other states would have to agree that you could be a state.
I don't know.
Look into how Hawaii became a state.
We'll figure it out.
Yeah, I mean, we should find some place.
We can just become a state and go...
I mean, Alaska was a state under apparently kind of sketchy circumstances.
Alaska may not actually really qualify...
It may not even be a state, actually.
We don't really know.
The Alaskan separatists, which exist, Sarah Palin is actually one of them, and her husband for sure, they have this argument that the whole thing was a scam.
And Alaska didn't really vote for statehood.
They were scammed into it.
They didn't count the Indians.
Yeah, I've heard that too.
Yeah, I've heard that too.
Well, that could be.
That makes sense.
That makes total sense.
Absolutely.
So I wanted to bring up, and I have a specific reason for doing so, a great article in the Telegraph in the Gitmo Nation East.
Actually, it's from their blogs, so it's not really...
I probably never got printed in the newspaper, but it says, Global Warming Fraud, colon, the tide begins to turn.
And this is...
This comes on the heels of the Royal Society...
Being called out for making basic math errors on their global warming.
Huge math errors.
Here it comes.
That's not opinion.
That's science.
And science is one cold-hearted bitch with a 14-inch strap on.
What?
I've been waiting to play that.
Was this on a blog?
No, this is...
One of our producers sent that to me.
I think it...
Because, you know, of course we have the...
The science is in the field!
Science is in!
Science!
That's not opinion.
That's science.
And science is one cold-hearted bitch with a 14-inch strap on.
So don't be a denier.
Because she's got a 14-incher.
Yeah.
But it's a great...
We won't edit anything.
But there's a huge amount of great quotes from scientists who are all just saying, U.S. physics...
So this is the global warming...
This is the one we did on Thursday.
Global warming is the greatest and most successfully pseudoscientific fraud I've seen in my long life.
And we have...
Another professor.
The money flood has become the raison d'etre.
That means the reason.
Let me present some figures below to see why flood was not an exaggeration.
The money connection.
The amount of money spent on anti-AGW, that is man-made global warming, activity by organizations is a whopping $2 million a year.
Shut up.
Go away.
Don't Skype me.
Two million?
That's not right.
Anti.
Anti.
Oh, anti.
The amount of money spent by pro-AGW organizations on research is three billion dollars a year.
That's kind of interesting.
Yeah, what side are you on?
Don't be a denier, because science is a cold-hearted bitch.
Well, see, if I was a scientist in that field of study, and there was $3 billion going in direction A and $2 million going in direction B, I'd probably sign on to direction A for the short term.
And then I could always, after collecting all the money, I could do what this other guy did, and say, okay, well, you know, the gravy train's over, this is bullshit.
Yep.
That's a lot of great quotes.
I encourage you to read that.
You can find it in the show notes at noagendashow.com.
I've not heard any feedback necessarily from people about the new layout of the show notes, so I presume it's okay and people are all right with it, that it's easier to use.
I don't know if people still look at the show notes.
I mean, are these still a good resource to publish, John?
Do people care?
Or have people become so jaded?
Why don't we have our survey, guys?
We've got different ones.
Survey the listeners as to whether or not they are using the show notes or whether they care or whether they look for one.
I had trouble finding something the other day because you categorize the show notes.
You're using a JavaScript of some sort.
Mm-hmm.
under a category, then you click on the little thing, and down it goes.
You see all the different links.
And so if I wanted to just find something I knew what to look for, I'd have to click on all of them.
So it's kind of inconvenient, I think, to do.
Really?
But, yeah, but at the same time, the old method, which had show notes that, like, scrolled down to China, was ridiculous.
So you really didn't have much of a choice.
But it's still hard to find stuff.
Well, here's what needs to be done.
Here's what needs to be done.
Because what I do every single week is I publish these in structured data format in OPML. And I know that the Pocket No Agenda app uses this.
Because the reason I do that is so it can be indexed.
And someone needs to...
Isn't there a No Agenda show notes site?
Let me see.
Noagenda.
Shownotes.com.
Let's see if they're up to speed.
Because you should be able to search this stuff.
Here, search show notes.
Okay.
Give me a topic, John.
What were you looking for?
Oh, I wish I could remember.
I'd have to think about it.
Come on.
You caught me off guard.
Well, just give me one.
Just give me anything.
Okay, how about...
Well, let's not say global warming.
Let's say 10th Amendment.
Tenth...
No, okay, Tenth Amendment.
Amendment.
Let's see what it comes up with.
We're searching, we're searching, we're searching.
There it goes.
The Great Daylight Savings Time Conspiracy on Episode 78.
Yeah, it's great.
This NoAgendaShowNotes.com is perfect.
It doesn't.
That's not the right answer.
Of course it's not the right answer.
Okay, we need a better indexing machine.
This is not good.
I publish them every single week, and the links that rock, it's the show notes and OPML format.
Let's do something with that.
Otherwise, why bother?
People don't care.
Yeah, we have to make sure people care.
They have to go look at these show notes.
And by the way...
If it's just one, because there's some gems in there.
And if you don't like it, then fix it.
Make something better.
We'll publicize it.
We're really good at that.
Please help us here.
We need some help.
Geez.
And if you want, you can just go to noagendashow.com and click on the...
Click on the little...
Yeah, that'll help.
So there's one thing I wanted to get into before we finish this show, which was...
I ran again on CNET... C-SPAN, I'm sorry.
CNET. C-SPAN... It was a four and a half hour panel.
Wow.
You watched it?
Yeah, of course you did.
On counterfeit drugs.
Oh.
And it was like, oh, counterfeit drugs.
Counterfeit drugs, I was thinking, what do you know?
Apparently, the counterfeit drug situation is so out of control.
Really?
That you don't have any idea how much counterfeit...
I mean, it's like almost half the...
It seems as though half the drug...
This one guy came out and gave a story about...
This is this guy who got counterfeit drugs.
He's an AIDS patient and a pharmacist.
And he was getting bum drugs from CVS, I might add.
Uh-huh.
And play this.
This is a sad story, and it's a little long, but it's worth listening to for the punchline.
Counterfeit drug story about Rekas, which is one of the companies.
Then I want to know who.
Who are these people, if that's the problem?
And I met some of them in a trial in Las Vegas that I... I testified, and I saw them face to face, and this was a year after, and all those feelings just came back.
I mean, here are these two guys walking, and I thought I was past it, and all these feelings came back, and all the anger.
And disbelief that there are people out there who could put medicine out there for people to take that wasn't real.
One, not the medicine that I needed.
And two, something potentially dangerous.
And they didn't care.
They just didn't care.
And there they were.
And at the end, their company was penalized, and they weren't going to be allowed to get a license to open up a company again in the state of Nevada.
But they still walked out and got in their cars and went home.
And...
It was very, very upsetting.
Their primary distributor was a group in Florida called the Walkers.
This couple, well, his name may have not been Walker, but they were this couple, and Gary, who's over there, who's a character in the book, Dangerous Doses as well.
A guy selling a book?
Is that what this is about?
No, no.
So one of the people on the panel wrote a book called Dangerous Doses, and he was just referring to that book.
Okay.
Knows the story intimately.
But the Walkers, these are bold.
Bold people.
They had a company called Rekus.
That was their licensed company name, distributorship.
Rekus.
R-E-C-K-U-S. That was their company name.
They handled the drugs that I injected.
Rekus, by the way, is sucker spelled backwards.
That was the name of their company.
These people...
Really bad, bad people.
Why do they do it?
You're going to hear more.
So, I love that.
So, hold on a second.
What exactly are counterfeit drugs?
These are drugs that are made in China mostly.
It packs just like the regular things.
We're talking about those $10 tablets of this, that, and the other thing.
Lipitor was counterfeited.
You mean the stuff you buy on the internet?
You mean that stuff?
Well, it turns out that people who go to Mexico to buy the drugs are probably getting counterfeits.
People who go to Canada or buy stuff over the internet are probably getting counterfeits.
They're all over the place.
But I just want to understand, counterfeit can mean a number of things.
No, it means it's a fake pill.
It's just sugar or something else.
Yeah, or whatever they got in the bin.
It doesn't make any difference.
Yeah, I got some stuff in the bin here.
So I was thinking, well, how much of this is going on?
This one guy moaned about his doctor's son doesn't even know that there are counterfeit drugs out there.
The public doesn't know.
Nobody's being told.
Nobody gives a crap about the whole thing.
And you have to wonder how many pills.
And what does a pill weigh?
I don't know, a couple grams.
I mean, how much counterfeit drugs can there possibly be floating around?
Well, in this one clip, there's one piece of information that we start to play counterfeit drug kickoff, and there's one interesting piece of information about counterfeit drugs that are coming from China, going to Paraguay, and then going into Brazil.
How many counterfeit drugs do you think are coming in?
Counterfeit drugs since 1992-93.
We're watching them come across the border from Mexico.
This last year, past year, we have seen many instances and showcased the problems with counterfeit drugs and how widespread it was.
Two weeks ago, I was in Brazil, and I was just shocked working with the U.S. Embassy Council of people when they told me that they have seized 400 tons.
400 tons of counterfeit drugs in the last two years come across the border from Paraguay and Bolivia.
And I wonder how many people actually are cured by this stuff.
Well, you know, remember that placebo?
Yeah, 25% are cured even though they get the placebo.
Yeah, and I think that what you're getting is amounting to placebos, except for the fact that the Chinese are such a don't-give-a-shit that a lot of these pills, for all you know, are arsenic.
I mean, they just mix in.
A lot of weird shit is put into these things.
But how does it get into CVS, which is a big drugstore chain in America?
Well, like the guy said, it was these distributors like Rekus who somehow would get an account with CVS looking like a legitimate operation.
And then they'd maybe bring in some legitimate pills from Eli Lilly.
And the next thing you know, the stuff's coming in from China.
And then they're just dumping this stuff at pure profit instead of having to pay what they have to pay.
And it's just a money-making scheme.
And then they get busted.
So what?
So somebody didn't get their pills.
Big deal.
Interesting.
Now, there is one last funny little short clip, which is apparently the head of the China FDA was executed.
Executed.
We should do this here, by the way.
Yeah, we should do more of that.
It's like, off with their heads.
But it's kind of funny because this journalist from the New York Times has been covering this, and he bitches and moans that nobody gives a crap.
Play the counterfeit drug China execution clip because there's a funny moment in here.
...to publicize this and not scare the dickens out of people, but to do the kind of work that will lead to the kind of reform that will make our drug supply chain safer.
The United States is paying much more attention to this.
I could say that China is paying more attention to it, and I do believe they are.
I mean, they did execute the head of the Chinese FDA. That wasn't my intent when I got into this story.
But it is now the standard for investigative reporters everywhere.
If there ain't an execution, don't apply for a Pulitzer Prize.
I thought it was funny.
That's great.
You write a story, the guy gets executed.
Power of the press.
Awesome.
Yeah.
Oh.
Oh.
What'd you do?
I just chopped our heads off.
You just chopped somebody.
Oh, I get it.
Anyway, so this counterfeit drug thing, which I'm not going to cover anymore, is apparently a plague worldwide, and if there's 400 tons of pills going into Brazil, I'm assuming that a lot of the drugs you get in Brazil are probably not up to par.
No, you may want to avoid those.
Wow.
Stellar.
Well, uh, gee, John, usually you end on a high note.
Sorry.
You've been able to bug me out, man.
That's awesome.
Well, if you've got nothing left to do...
I've got one thing we'll do, one last thing, and then we're done.
Okay, alright.
So we did the part where the guy from PBS actually double-questioned, what's his name, Harry Reid, and said, hey, you didn't answer the question.
So I'm starting to see a little loosening up on the news media, you know, instead of just reading stuff, actually saying, this is a bogus story.
This actually happened, although it's not an important story, but there was one of these stories on KPIX in the local area here that some couple of guys who obviously never played baseball in their life, and this has, by the way, been disproven a million times, they like to say that this is an old theory that there's no such thing as a curveball in baseball.
It's just an optical illusion.
And so these guys came up with another optical illusion that shows that the curveball doesn't curve, when in fact it's been studied to death with high-speed cameras and everything.
The ball will curve, you know, hook a little bit, like an inch or two, if it's shown by a guy who knows what he's doing.
But meanwhile, they run this story about these eggheads, or these scientists, which are called eggheads later, and as they're running the story, somebody on the crew says, yells something during the story, and then the anchor goes after the story as bogus.
Okay.
Goes left.
See it?
No.
Okay.
So the next time you see a curveball, you'll know it's all in your head.
Or mine or something.
Or yours.
Do these eggheads ever actually play baseball?
Because they break.
Yeah.
I don't care what that graphic shows you.
It's moving.
90 miles an hour.
It's breaking.
It's breaking.
Not an optical illusion.
The mystery building next to the Golden Gate Bridge.
That's next on Good Questions.
I don't understand that.
Where did it go wrong?
Well, they had this story that was a straight-up science story about how a curveball doesn't break, and then this guy comes out at the end and says, this story's bogus.
Of course, the question is, why did they run the story in the first place?
Time filler.
They needed 30 seconds before the commercial.
He spoke up.
He spoke up.
I'm just saying he spoke up.
I like to see guys speaking up once in a while.
Here's what he should have said.
That's not opinion.
That's science.
And science is one cold-hearted bitch with a 14-inch strap-on.
There goes our donations for this week.
I don't think so.
It was George Clooney.
Now it's the sexual innuendo with a...
Yeah, this is going to be your theory.
You're going to be like, hey, I can't pay bills because you had to play the strap-on clip.
Thanks.
Five times?
So?
It's funny.
It's from Dexter, by the way.
It was on television.
That was on Dexter?
I think so, yeah.
Oh, I thought it was just one of our listeners.
No, I'm pretty sure it was like on TV. You should watch it sometimes, John.
It's really entertaining.
I try not to watch anything but C-SPAN. And when I watch the Law& Order shows, everybody gets mad at me.
Well, you know what?
You should try it next week because donations are up when you watch that shit.
Yeah, that's a good point.
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