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Does Tylenol kill snakes?
Well, in high doses, it'll kill you.
Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak.
It's Sunday, October 3rd, 2010.
Time for your Gitmo Nation Media Assassination Episode 240.
This is No Agenda.
Hiding from the 15 Chinooks, patrolling the Hilltop Watchtower, Crackpot Command Center, Gitmo Nation West, and the People's Republic of Southern California.
In the morning, I'm Adam Curry.
And from the Pacific Northwest hideout, where, by the way, we got started at 9.01.
I'm John C. Devorak.
It's Crackpot and Buzzkill.
In the morning.
You see, we've been married so long, John.
That I expected you to say, are you ready?
And I figured I'd surprise you by being ready.
I kind of miss the fat woman singing.
No, no, no.
You always say, who cares?
It's five out of nine.
Let's get started.
But if you want, I can do it.
That's exactly the way I sound.
Yes.
Again, when you're married for as long as we've been married, then you can actually emulate each other.
It's a beautiful thing.
Well, in the morning to you, John, all ships at sea and...
Human resources.
In the chat room at noagendachat.net.
Hope you're all charged up.
Our human resource officers are moderating, ready to spank you.
And it's a commemorative week.
Oh, it is?
Yes, it's the Rick Sanchez commemorative week.
I gotta tell you that this is great.
So, Rick Sanchez, for those of you who do not know, is a guy...
Actually, I bought his book and I read about half of it.
That he was hawking this...
What is it?
Inconvenient Sanity or some...
I can't remember.
Inconvenient Sanity.
I've got to look up the name of this book.
No, you are...
People should...
I want to tell everyone, please donate to the show, Dvorak.org slash NA, because anybody who's as dedicated as Adam to go out and read the Rick Sanchez book deserves support.
I wasn't going to even think...
I wasn't even going to look at it.
No, no.
Well, the thing is, I got it on iBooks.
It's called...
Here it is...
Uh...
Conventional idiocy.
There you go.
Conventional idiocy.
And I start reading this book, and I'm like, the guy really is a dick!
I mean, he's like, you know, well, what do you do?
I'm not just an anchor who reads the teleprompter.
I will read your tweets, and we really get into the L-shows.
And it wasn't until I listened to this 20 minute piece of audio, which of course we're not going to play any of.
Oh no, we have to play some because I clipped together.
Oh my god.
Hold on a second.
Oh my god.
I took pieces from the thing and I clipped them together so seamlessly.
And I want to warn people that this is edited.
Yeah, oh.
Okay, unlike mainstream news.
Before we play it, let me just say.
So what has happened here is the story is, and I have a different theory, but the story is that he got fired because he was on SiriusXM, which no one listens to, except for the Howard Stern show.
He was on SiriusXM, and he apparently said, according to the reports, Jews run the media.
Yeah.
That's kind of what he said.
That's not what he said, but okay.
Kind of what he said.
You have three minutes and 55 seconds of this douchebag?
It's so seamless.
You can play it and cut and play it and cut, but you should just at least play it so people know what we're talking about because the douchebaggery is kind of high emphasis on this.
And we both have always felt this guy was just an unwatchable...
In fact, he's such an unwatchable douchebag That you have to watch him.
You just sit there and go, oh my God.
And he's always talking about, you know, when I was growing up and my daddy, you know, he worked on the truck and we had to drive 5,000 miles and then the woman at the rich woman lady's house.
And people spit on us.
And she wouldn't let me use the bathroom.
I had to go outside and drink from the creek.
People spit on us.
Now he's a Cuban immigrant, I believe, right?
Well, that's what he says.
I never thought he was a white guy who changed his name to Sanchez to get more work.
Quite the opposite is true because apparently at CNN, they feel that if you're Hispanic, you should be a Hispanic news reporter and not an anchor who doesn't read teleprompter.
The curious thing is that the guy who was his mentor who brought him up was fired the week before.
And so now he was gone.
Oh, I didn't know that.
Who was that?
Well, it's kind of ironic because the guy's name is Jonathan Klein.
He's Jewish.
Can you just turn down your...
Turn down your speakers.
Just a little bit.
I'm not allowed to play that one anymore.
Hold on.
Turn down your speakers!
Sorry.
Just a little bit.
It's just because it's grating.
So anyway, so this guy Jonathan Klein was his mentor and his supporter.
He was the go-to guy.
And also a Cuban immigrant.
So Klein was fired the week before, and so now they're thinking, what are we going to do about this Sanchez guy?
We've got to get rid of him.
And so they're just waiting for something for him to screw up.
He should have just laid low, which he didn't do, and then they got rid of him.
That was the end of it.
You know what Mickey said?
Because she hates the guy.
Rick's List, I watch Rick's List every day.
I've got to watch Rick's List because I can't believe what's happening on television.
And when he said, yeah, we got fired for apparently saying that Jews are on the media, he said, oh, I actually gained some respect for the guy now.
It's like, okay.
All right.
Yeah, well, it'll get you fired if you're, you know, but the guy, come on, he's Jewish.
I mean, the whole thing is ludicrous.
But he didn't even say that.
It's so ridiculous.
You know why Sanchez got fired?
Because he sucked!
That's why he got fired.
The guy just sucked.
Love you, baby.
I agree.
Suck.
The guy sucks.
And he never actually said it, but he implied it to such an extreme that it was a good excuse.
And besides that, it wasn't the only thing he said.
He was just acting like a jerk.
He was whining.
He was a douchebag.
He sucks.
He sucks.
The guy just totally sucks.
I'll play a bit of the clip.
Play the clip.
I think, to a certain extent, Jon Stewart and Colbert are the same way.
I think Jon Stewart's a bigot.
I think he looks at the world through his mom, who was a school teacher, and his dad, who was a physicist or something like that.
Great!
I'm so happy that he...
Did you have your vibrator on while you recorded this?
You know, I have an unbalanced line up here and it creates a slight hum.
Turn down your dildo!
Grew up in a suburban, middle-class New Jersey home with everything that you could ever imagine.
What group is he bigoted towards?
Everybody else is not like him.
Look at his show.
I mean, what does he surround himself with?
I think John's show is essentially prejudicial.
I think that John's show...
The word prejudicial came up 18 times.
I can't even pronounce it.
Prejudicial.
You just did.
Well, I have to work on it.
Prejudicial, which means prejudiced?
It means bigoted.
Why didn't you just say bigoted?
It's so much easier.
He did, but the other guy implies that the word bigoted, if you look up right now, go look up on Webster.com, bigoted, and read the definition.
Don, you got me.
Hold on.
All right.
Bigoted.
Loading.
Bigot, even.
No, bigoted.
It's got results.
Utterly intolerant of any creed, belief, or opinion that differs from one's own.
Is that it?
Yeah.
That's all it is.
Right.
So if you have an opinion, but it doesn't have to be just all your opinions, if you have one opinion, as I was explaining to the kids last night, say you don't like butter.
You bigot!
I hate butter.
Oh, I think butter's good.
No, no, butter sucks.
I think it's terrible.
You're a butter bigot.
You're a butter bigot.
I'm a butter bigot.
So what?
You're a butter bigot.
So bigot is not really a bad word, is what you're saying.
Words matter here on the No Agenda show.
I don't think it's a bad word, but I think it's used as a bad word.
In the popular context, it implies some sort of racist thing.
Because he's, oh, the guy, that southern senator is a bigot.
There's an assumption of racism in the word use itself.
Right, but prejudicial is more like prejudgmental.
Who cares?
Against anybody who doesn't agree with his point of view, which is very much a white, liberal establishment point of view.
He can't relate to a guy like me.
He can't relate to a guy whose dad worked all his life.
He can't relate to somebody who grew up.
Here he goes.
Here he goes with it.
His dad worked.
My dad worked all his life, too.
So did mine.
Gee, I can't relate.
He can't relate to a guy.
Crazy.
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
No, I'm kidding.
I'd be careful with the word bigot.
I'll take the word bigot back.
I'll say prejudicial.
Look at what I did.
Because bigot's such a bad word.
You're uninformed.
Because Mark Twain said that you don't really become a man until you've had a child, planted a tree, and written a book.
Did Mark Twain really say that?
I have not found it.
I looked for it, too.
I was pooping before the show, and I was listening to this.
And Mark Twain said you have to have a child.
What was it?
Have a child, write a book, plant a tree.
No, write a child, plant a tree, write a book.
I'm like, okay.
And the funny thing about Sanchez here, he says, so I wrote a book.
Maybe I didn't Google it right.
I can't find it.
I can't find this...
Maybe somebody in the chat room or one of our listeners can find this quote that I believe he just made up.
He made it up, too.
He just wants to equate himself to Mark Twain.
Well, I've read your book, Inconvenient Douchebag, whatever it's called, Conventional Idiocy.
That's exactly what it is.
You're no Mark Twain.
And that stuck with me a long, long time ago, and I've always wanted to write a book.
And because I'm not...
And because you know you can sell it on your TV. Wait, let me get back to the Jon Stewart thing.
You ready?
Hold on, stop.
This is the thing that fascinates me the most about this.
The only reason I want to play this clip.
He had his two or three slams of Jon Stewart, and the interviewer was going to take him down some other path, and then we're going to keep talking mostly about his background or whatever.
And this guy latches on and insists on going back to the topic so he can slam Stewart more and then get himself into a heap of trouble.
He basically got himself fired at this very moment.
Your anger, your concerns and frustrations is what inspired me to write this book.
From you I hear what is really on the minds of ordinary Americans, what you're thinking, what you're talking about, and above all, what you're sick of.
From the bankers who recklessly gambled with our money, to the politicians who play on our worst fears and prejudices, to the media demagogues who spread ignorance for ratings.
Enough.
Here's my point.
Wait, I'm not done.
Rick Sanchez calls John Stewart a bigot.
It's going viral.
Okay, it's not bigot.
It's prejudicial.
Here's the other point about that.
Now, what the hell was I going to say?
I was going to talk.
You said you want to go back to John Stewart.
I have a lot to say.
Unfortunately, it's all uninteresting.
So Eric came up with, he says it's H.L. Mencken who made that quote.
Eric also wanted you to unplug your phone.
Hey, I sent the bat signal.
The phone is unplugged.
Did anybody receive the bat signal?
I don't think the bat signal went out for some reason.
Oh, send it again.
Let me try it again.
Anyway, I can't listen to this guy anymore.
Can we just stop?
Oh, come on.
It gets better.
It's almost done.
I've already heard it this morning.
...of my life experiences, because of what I've done in my life, because of the way I've grown up, because of my failures, because of my successes.
I am the American hero.
I am the American dream, dammit.
...of that.
And when you turn on...
A show or listen to someone's writings and they minimize it.
Listen to their writings?
An audible.com.
him he's a shill for audible crazy and treat you like you don't matter like you're just a piece of that you're just a dumb like you're a dumb jock or a dumb woman or a dumb puerto rican i love this you He goes from dumb jock, which is not anything, you know, that's just someone who does sports, to a dumb woman, and then all of a sudden you're a wedback.
It's like he took that really far.
Wait a minute, stop.
He says a woman or another dumb Mexican as though there's bunches of them.
or a dumb Puerto Rican or a dumb Cuban or another dumb Mexican, which is the way I feel whenever I watch Jon Stewart, I can't help but say, and then you just asked me why I wrote this book.
I wrote this book because I want people to know that I don't just sit there and read the teleprompter.
I am a complex human.
See, this is why he got fired.
Because that's your job.
Your job is to sit there and read the teleprompter on CNN. This is why you got canned.
That had nothing to do with anything about this interview.
It's because you suck.
And you go off script and you just suck.
The stream's dead.
No, it's not dead.
It's twitchy.
He didn't say it's dead.
It's twitchy.
Okay, go ahead.
It's a loose wire somewhere.
Support the show.
I'm not some moron to be...
But why are you being so sensitive?
Because I'm tired of him.
Because I'm tired of being bullied.
He should have pulled out the bully card on this one, I think.
Oh, yeah.
He should have pulled out the bully card.
He's an entertainer.
No, he's not.
He wouldn't pick on me if I didn't matter.
If I was just the Hispanic guy who read the news at CNN and paid attention and just read the teleprompter every day very carefully and never said anything, never had a personality, then I'd be fine.
He wouldn't pick on me.
And very few of us will say the things that I've just said.
...are actually more complex than they think we are, and we get them.
Stewart's a minority, as much as you are.
Come on.
How is he a minority?
Yeah.
Rick.
Very powerless people.
Whoa.
You're such a minority.
I mean, you know, please.
What are you kidding?
You're telling me that...
I'm telling you that everybody who runs CNN is a lot like Stewart.
A lot of people who run...
Oh, okay.
There you go.
So that's how people come up with the...
He said Jews run CNN. Yeah.
You know, this is so nuts.
All the other networks are a lot like Stewart.
And to imply that somehow they, the people in this country who are Jewish, are an oppressed minority?
Yeah.
They have a history of oppression, no?
No question about that.
Rick, I gotta go because I gotta take...
Okay, he did kind of say it there, but that's not why he got fired.
He got fired because he sucks.
No, they were way...
No, let's face it.
Once his mentor left...
He was fair game, because this happens in magazines.
It happens all the time.
They're just waiting for a reason to fire.
With me at MTV, it was my hair.
And finally, they just decided, if you don't cut your hair, you're fired.
Fine, fire me.
Seven times that happened.
There you go.
But the point is, in all broadcasting, all media, newspapers, magazines, TV, radio, when the guy who supported you brought you in, you're his guy, when he's gone, the likelihood of you sticking around is zero.
Alright, alright.
Well, and that's why, and of course CNN is a commercial entity, and that's why I'm so happy we have struck upon a completely different way of doing business here, because we don't have, the only person who could affect this show by being gone is you, or me.
No one else.
There's no Uberlords, there's nothing else.
Nothing can happen.
No maybe Paul Couture.
Oh yeah, if Paul Couture left, then we're dead.
Then we're dead.
Yeah, that's true.
Because he does check in today, doesn't he?
So we have to be careful.
Yeah, that's true.
He could be lording it over us.
Yeah, we need some more Paul Coutures because we're in a very precarious situation here with only one guy basically supporting the show entirely.
So, well, we call him a patron.
So, Paul Couture, we do have one executive producer and one, two, three associates this week, and the executive producer, again, is Paul Couture.
Sir Paul.
Sir Paul, I'm sorry.
Sir Paul, who is working on, and we got it, by the way, we have a mailing going out, or people can email us.
If you're a knight expecting your ring, we need your ring size.
Now, how does one size your finger?
Well, you're going to have to go to a jeweler and stick your finger in a hole.
It's a ring-sizing hole.
They usually have this little stick with a whole bunch of rings on it, and you put your finger into the various rings until you find your size.
We need your size, and the problem we're going to have here is the following, because I can already tell you based on the fact that people don't answer their e-mail.
We have about 100 nights right now, and each one of them, we'll send them a mailing, and we're going to make this announcement, and we're going to do it again on the Thursday show.
About a third of them will not...
Reply, under any circumstances, maybe by a direct mail.
Right.
You're going to get a size 7 ring if you don't say anything, I believe.
I think that's the most common size.
I could be wrong.
Whatever the average size is, is what you're going to get.
But we would like your ring size, and then we can get these rings made, because they have to be sized, and they're going to, you know...
You can have them sized, I think within one size, a jeweler can stretch a ring.
Right.
Or shrink it within a size.
Well, no, he can't because this is reared in steel.
It's not reared in steel.
It's unsizable.
If it was reared in steel, yes, it would be a problem.
So anyway, so we need your ring sizes, and so be on the lookout for an email.
Or send us an email at John at Dvorak.org or Adam at Mevio.com.
No, no, it's Adam at Curry.com.
Adam at Curry.com.
And how is that Curry doing, by the way?
420-420 is what Paul came up with this show, and he's the executive producer.
Scott Singer from Pewaukee, Wisconsin, is the associate producer with $250.
He says this is for the invaluable Adam Curry, John Dvorak, sucking noise.
Oh.
This is partially to correct John's pronunciation of Waukesha, Wisconsin.
Locals pronounce it Waukesha.
No E as in P. So it's pronounced Waukesha.
Many Wisconsin cities and towns are named after Native American sayings, or tribes I would assume.
If you can pronounce Pewaukee correctly, I'll give you a bonus donation.
Remember, Millewaukee is Algonquin for the good land.
I'm sure you've seen Wayne's World.
Wayne's World.
So Pewaukee is the way I think it's pronounced.
Sander, and you can pronounce his last name.
That's a beauty.
It's actually Sander Auerkerk.
Sander Auerkerk.
Sounder.
No, just don't mess with it.
Just say sounder.
That's what I'm saying.
Sounder.
No, not sounder.
Sounder.
Sounder.
Auerkerk.
Auerkerk.
There's no R there.
Whatever.
Whatever.
He's in Amsterdam.
Good man.
Yes.
Hey Adam and John, here's my first step towards knighthood.
Digging your show big time, enjoying Adam and the crew's visit to the Amsterdam crowd recently.
Yeah, there's the Dutch No Agenda meeting.
I want to say a special hello and love to all great Pakistani people that we met in our travels through Pakistan, especially in the...
It's a little small here.
Karakoram Mountain Range, bordering on China, for their hospitality in front of this, which is heartwarming.
They have links to Al-Qaeda there.
How's that possible?
It's not possible.
I felt that would be worth it.
That's according to our State Department.
No, irrespective of differences in religious beliefs, if any, I hope for the Pakistani people, the world does help out in the tragedy caused by the recent floods and earthquake machine.
Otherwise, you did enlighten me up on topics like vaccines, government bailout, wealth transfer, and the subliminal hypnotic functioning of some TV shows.
Keep it up.
Greetings from Amsterdam.
Sander Awarkerk.
Zig Management, which stands for Zion in Gut Grunt.
P.S. Adam, next time you're here, could we organize a donation-raising discussion dinner if you're up for it?
You know, I want to do that, but only if John's there.
I really didn't feel good at the meeting without having John there.
You know, John, I'm going to...
It seems like some portions of Gitmo Nation are not receiving the stream...
And other parts are.
It's probably because of the streaming mechanism.
Or parts of the net might be down.
It's really weird.
I don't know what to do here.
Yeah, there's nothing you can do when half the people are getting it and the other half aren't.
I don't know what to do.
I know what we can do.
We can mention Jared Forrester, who's from Regina, rhymes with Saskatchewan, Canada.
$211.
And he was at the Dutch No Agenda meeting there, all the way from Regina.
That's right.
I met him.
He flew in specifically for the meeting.
Really?
Yeah.
That's a dedicated guy.
Yeah.
Any excuse to go to Holland...
I think the Stuxnet has finally hit our streaming server.
That's what it is.
It could be.
Anyway, I want to thank all these producers and associates supporting the show.
Yes, executive producer Sir Paul Couture, associate executive producer Scott Singer, Sunder Awakarik, and Jared Forrester.
All of you can put this on your resume.
Paul Couture's resume is now five pages long.
Sir Paul, but of course some of the other associate executive producers, no stranger to the credits.
They are real credits.
That's why we do them, because you actually paid for the show, so you're supporting it.
So put that on your resume, in your email signature, and on your IMDB profile.
Everybody else out there, go out and propagate our formula.
It is very simple.
Our formula is this.
We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
All right.
Say it loud and proud with me now.
Shut up!
What's the name of our streaming host again?
I have to log in and I've got to kick the server.
What is it called again?
Noagendastream.com?
No, no, no.
The host.
I don't know.
You never told me.
I'm completely unaware of the host name.
Boy, oh boy.
I'm just drawing a total blank on it.
Oh, that sucks.
You should have it written down.
Well, normally I know it by heart, but it's like...
Don't you have a...
What have you been using?
Well, no, because I have a...
The place where I log in to manage it is a different place from the streaming provider.
Oh, I'm just totally blank and chat room knows what it is.
That's really dumb.
I'm sorry.
If I remember the name of our fucking streaming provider, I could log in.
That just says it's like forgetting your password because you never have to remember it because it's been working so well automatically.
Oh, Primcast.
There it is.
I got it.
Hold on.
Primcast.
What's the name of it?
Primcast.
P-R-I-M-C-A-S-T dot com.
My guess is they're having a problem at the site.
Maybe.
Let me see.
see.
Let me just sign in.
Oh, boy.
While you're doing all that, I'm going to talk about something.
Well, you know what?
I'm logging in now.
There's really one thing we need to talk about, because just as this show was going live, all of the predictions from the media, as if they didn't know, they just had an embargo on when they could actually...
Send it out.
Came true.
The United States State Department has issued a warning, a terrorist alert warning to all Americans in Europe.
Be vigilant.
Be very, very vigilant.
Because there could be a Mumbai-style attack.
Now I have some thoughts about this.
At the Ritz-Carlton.
I have some thoughts about this.
So, the State Department issue, and it came to me this morning really suddenly.
The State Department issues a warning.
You have to be vigilant.
Gitmo Nation East, the United Kingdom, subsequently raises their terror threat level.
But the message is, there could be a Mumbai-style attack.
Now, I'm thinking to myself, why do they say that?
Why do they not say there could be an attack just like July 7th in London or like the Madrid train bombing?
No, they don't say that.
They say there could be a Mumbai-style attack.
And then it hit me.
Of course, it's to call out Pakistan.
So again, it's a whole move to link Pakistan to al-Qaeda Because, you know, even though, of course, it was CIA operatives and a complete black flag, false flag operation that took place in Mumbai, we know how the CIA works with the ISI. They're just another chunk in the armor there to do something nasty to Pakistan.
A chunk in the armor or a chink in the armor?
Yeah, chink, chink, chunk, whatever.
Well, we have been talking about this because it's not hard to figure out that the Pakistanis are a target.
We have...
There's a couple things going on.
I have actually one clip, kind of...
I didn't get what I really wanted from this clip because I couldn't find it.
But the head of the, I guess he's armed forces, Levin, the guy who gave a big talk in front of the...
On C-SPAN. And he talked about, you know, what we're going to do about getting out of Afghanistan and without too much mention of Pakistan.
But he did bring up a...
I've been following the tweets of the ambassador.
I all of a sudden now follow the tweets of the ambassador from Pakistan to the U.S. And he's bitching and moaning constantly.
And who is this?
What clip are we playing?
Well, I think, unfortunately I got the spreadsheet open.
open let me see what the clips look like um well let's play the 11 clip which is the clip where he uh uh the senator is talking about how we're going to get out of uh or not get out of afghanistan General Petraeus has referred to July 2011 as a date when reductions are scheduled to begin, a word that lacks certainty.
He has said that his agreement with the date quote was based on projections of conditions in July 2011, suggested that those projections might be faulty.
General Petraeus' comments last month, raising the possibility that he may recommend against any reductions next July, got front page lead story coverage in the New York Times.
General Conway, the outgoing Marine Commandant, He said that, quote, it will be a few years before the Marines can hand over any territory to the Afghan.
And Woodward quotes General Petraeus as telling Lieutenant General Doug Lute at the White House, quote, all we have to do is begin to show progress, and that will be sufficient to add time to the clock, and we will get Now, it's true that some of these statements are, in part, attempts to reassure leaders in the region that the United States will not abandon Afghanistan starting next July.
And it's perfectly natural and understandable for military commanders to seek maximum flexibility in carrying out orders and to voice their well-known reluctance to have firm deadlines.
But these comments Also, insert ambiguity into what was designed by the President as an unambiguous signal to the Afghans that they must move urgently.
And I've tried everywhere I could to build resistance to the pressure, to turn a date certain into a goal or something based on conditions, rather than what it is.
Okay, now, so here's the deal.
This was in front of the Council on Foreign Relations, by the way.
And what did you record this with?
Your telephone?
So that one had the same buzz on it, but I filtered the buzz, which also was a notch filter, so you end up with that kind of thing.
Good job, yeah.
Yeah, I'm an expert.
So anyway, don't forget, he's the head of the Armed Services Committee.
He is on the side of actually getting out.
But he's pointing out in this little speech he's giving that they're sending mixed messages because a lot of people don't want to get out.
And the one thing he left out is the fact that Gates said, we'll never leave.
Which we, I think, discussed last show.
Yeah, a couple shows ago.
Yeah.
And so the situation is, it seems to me, and you can go on with, you finish what you were doing, but I just want to throw this at my kind of take on what's kind of happening.
We already talked about Pakistan being somehow, you know, a target.
I'm still seeing the battle between staying on behalf of the CIA to permanently establish the drug routes, which we have talked about, Or getting the hell out of there and letting the CIA either stay on their own without our people there to help them or whatever.
I'm not sure, but there seems to be a divide here.
They're beating around the bush about it, but Levin kind of hints about it.
One side wants to get out and one side wants to stay, but he doesn't really make it as clear as he could.
Sounds to me like it's contract renegotiation time for a lot of these guys.
And for the companies that are there and all the contractors.
It seems like...
When was this recorded?
This was recorded...
This last week.
Because, you know, they just passed that bill, which was done kind of in the middle of the night, where they all agreed to continue to run the government even though we have no budget.
Yeah.
So, it sounds like it's a money thing.
Like, everyone's like, well, you know, we should get out.
Otherwise, you know, hey, dude, you're not going to pay my bills.
We're going to get out.
Seriously, it has nothing to do with terrorism.
Let's be fair about that.
Well, anyway.
I'm not going to disagree with that.
So what are you seeing?
Well, okay.
So here's what I'm seeing.
For the slaves out there, first of all, another Bin Laden tape.
No link.
No recording.
No nothing.
Oh, my...
I thought it was two tapes.
It was three.
No, it was three.
It was three tapes.
So now we have the...
It's now available on audible.com.
But seriously, you cannot...
Every single...
Every single report about it...
Does not actually contain a link to where this was found or any recording.
You watch television.
I'm like, okay, why don't you just play me a little clip?
They play a clip of everything else, no matter what language it is.
No, we can't receive this, apparently.
New York Times, the true ministry of truth, writes Bin Laden resurfaces in recordings, and he says, quote, We are in need of a big change in the method of relief work because the number of victims is great due to climate change in modern times.
So clearly he's on Gore's payroll.
I'm very skeptical about Ben Lodd discussing climate change.
Anyway, here's the alert, and they actually take this to a whole new level, and now they're bringing Afghanistan back in.
So maybe we can connect all these House resolutions, which is basically, yeah, we continue.
Yeah, we're going to continue.
We've got no budgets.
Okay, we continue.
After the election, we'll take care of this.
The money will be okay.
We're good for it.
We're the United States.
Anthony Weiner, by the way, presiding over these...
It was his turn at the gavel.
But now of course we're going to link these Mumbai style attacks to Afghanistan.
What do you know about this heightened concern about possible terrorist threats?
Where is this coming from?
Well, it's not clear exactly where it's coming from, but what we do know is that a young Afghan German named Ahmed Siddiqui, who attended this mosque here behind me, that's now been closed by German federal authorities, is in U.S. captivity in Kabul.
He was captured in the summer, and he's been telling his U.S. captors about the possibility of a Mumbai-style attack in various European cities.
So possibly this could be the linkage.
We've talked to counter-terrorism sources here in this city.
Love how they do this.
For people who listen to this show, this is the stuff that we need to point out.
When a reporter on CNN says, we talked to security officials, anti-terrorism officials, but they don't mention them by name, it's because it's bullshit.
They got issued talking points, a press release, whatever.
You never ever hear, we spoke to this guy, his name is, his rank is, and this is what he's responsible for.
No, no, because we're in Afghanistan and we've got our sources over there.
This is how bullshit works.
Hold on a second, let me take it a little further in an explanatory manner.
First of all, A journalist covering stuff like this would normally hide the source if it was some sort of thing that would get the person in trouble.
But the fact of the matter is, how would this get anybody in trouble if you cited them?
Unless it was total bullshit.
Right.
Exactly.
We digress.
...counterterrorism sources here in this city, and they say that as far as they know, Siddiqui is telling his American characters what they say is new information every day.
Every day he's providing new information.
They think it could be because he wants to try and be released into German custody, that he wants to come back home.
But from what they understand, they say, as far as they know, there is no imminent threat here in Germany at this particular time.
How concerned should people be about this information, about possible threats coming out, and what should they be doing?
Okay, here's the message.
Be afraid, you slaves!
Well, we talked to Ahmed Siddiqui's family today, to his sister in particular, and they say the only information they're learning about him is through the media and that they're shocked about it.
But what she did say was that when they talked to him in the summer, shortly before he was captured in the early summer, he said he was looking forward to coming home, that he was coming home soon.
Now, authorities may well be concerned about some of the other men that traveled from this mosque So anyway, so if you look at the news, now we also have in Germany, in the Netherlands, in the United Kingdom, they're all talking about homegrown terrorism.
This is a coordinated effort to keep you, the slave, afraid.
Nothing has to happen.
They don't have to do a single thing except all of this mumbo-mumbai-jumbo and conjure up images of armed gunmen shooting up the Ritz in a Mumbai-style attack.
Right, and don't forget the Mumbai-style attack includes going room to room saying, Are you an American?
Yeah.
Yeah, that's right.
Good point.
Yeah, good point.
Very good point.
I'd forgotten about that one.
So it's just like, wow, man, I just can't believe.
They don't have to actually do anything.
They just have to say it.
It's not actually a travel advisory.
It's just a stern warning.
And Gitmo Nation East immediately warned their British subjects about traveling to France and Germany.
And I think there's been a problem with those three for a number of years.
Well, you know, one of the things going on, which is maybe a parallel thing, I'm not sure it has anything to do with this overall scheme just to scare people, but I think it relates to the trains, good, planes, bad.
Really?
Which is the fact is there's all this anti-travel, do not go anywhere message that underlies all this.
Because I think that the messaging is not complete enough on a worldwide basis.
Because people will go to Europe and they'll come back, like you go to Holland, and it's like a whole different world.
The news is different.
The stories are different.
The messaging is different.
So it's like, please don't go there and don't get educated.
Yeah, don't learn anything.
Stay home.
It's funny because Mickey said that.
She said, you know, it sounds like they just want to keep the American slaves in Gitmo.
I said, yeah, that's actually, that's a pretty decent theory there.
Don't learn anything.
And Planes Bad, of course, makes it impossible.
Let's just take a boat.
Might as well play the jingle while we're at it, right?
Yeah, it's a beauty.
Wow.
Yeah, no, I think there's definitely something to be said for that.
But it's all mind control, regardless.
It's just total mind control that's going, or psyops, I guess is what they'd call it.
Okay.
So I want to get off just a little bit.
Okay.
And talk about something that's going...
Is this showing up on Netflix as a featured movie?
I watched it again recently and I'm just shaking my head.
I've seen this movie two or three times.
But ever since...
I haven't seen it for the last maybe decade.
And I watched it and it is incredibly...
Is this the movie you made me watch?
Yeah.
Oh.
Oh my god.
That was pretty rough, man.
What is it?
Zardoz.
Zardoz with Sean Connery.
Yeah.
Sean Connery with a sock in his crotch.
The first half hour of that movie, I'm like, oh my god, this is such big cheese ball.
But it is kind of the elites versus the slaves.
That's kind of the whole story there.
Yeah, and of course, it's got a bloodbath in it, which I forgot all about.
It's a good one.
Bloodbath, it's got psychedelic, I'm absolutely convinced, I don't remember that era for good obvious reasons, but I think on LSD the movie would be much more enjoyable.
But it's obviously an LSD movie.
It's got a lot of hot naked chicks.
A lot of tits.
Lots of big bush.
Tons.
The whole movie.
And not fake ones.
The real ones.
It was the end of the Depression.
It came out in 1979.
This was before Reagan got in office.
This was the Carter years.
This is when the hostage crisis was going on.
This is when everyone was stoned on either some psychedelic or cocaine was beginning to be popular.
It was the end of an era movie.
Of those crazy movies from the 1970s, there was a lot of them.
They had begun with Easy Rider and ended with Zardo's.
Whatever the case, it's featured on Netflix.
It's a timeless classic, I tell you.
It's a total piece of crap that is compelling, but it's just amazing.
Anyway, that's our movie pick for our movie.
That would be John C. Dvorak's movie pick.
I, however, remain with the zombies.
Actually, speaking of such, I forgot two things under the PR heading for today.
Nick says, we need a No Agenda drink.
And he proposes the two shots to the head.
You can ask for it in your local pub.
Here's how you make it.
Pour a beer with a good head like a Guinness.
Use a large spoon to remove the head from the beer.
Place it in a glass.
Add two shots of world power vodka.
Consume using left hand only.
I think that's kind of nice, the NA suicide drink.
And then Section 8 from Gitmo Nation Middle Earth, a.k.a.
New Zealand, says I play an online game called Zombie Slayer.
I've changed my name to NoAgendaShow.com and founded Team No Agenda Militia.
Part of the game involves punching other players, so I've been doing my bit by hitting people in the mouth on a daily basis.
Admittedly, a modest effort as far as PR goes, but hopefully an idea that can spread to other games, and I totally agree with that.
Our Ministry of Truth at whitehouse.gov has a new feature, John.
A brand new feature.
It's a new segment.
They are their own little news network there.
They've got the West Wing Week, and of course they've got the President's YouTube Speech of the Week.
And now we have the new guy who came in, the Goolsby?
Yeah, John Gruden.
No, Goolsby.
Oh yeah, I'm sorry, Goolsby.
Goolsby, yeah, he came in as the, he replaced Christy Romer.
Who lied to us about no more than 8% unemployment.
Right, the woman you hate.
With a passion.
So Goolsbee also has no real experience in running an actual company.
However, he is now drawing on the White House whiteboard.
Yes, with big red circles which are evil for what the Republicans are doing, and little blue circles which are good for what Obama is doing.
Notice, by the way, it's Obama is going to...
Well, you'll hear it in the clip.
Obama is good.
Thank you.
Republicans bad.
He's not saying Democrats, Republicans.
Obama wants to do good for you.
Republicans want to do bad for you.
Here he is at the whiteboard, and of course you can see the actual video at noagendashow.com in the show notes.
You may have been following.
We've got a big back and forth going about the tax cuts.
Yeah, you may have been following.
What I wanted to do today is just break it down real simple.
For all you stupid slaves, stupid idiot slaves, we're going to put it on the whiteboard because you're too dumb to understand it.
You can understand exactly what the debate is about.
President George Bush passed tax cuts that will expire at the end of this year.
And what I've done here is we got a ruler and measured out the size of the tax cut, is how big the circle is, by your income, which is listed at the top, from low incomes up to people who make more than a million dollars a year.
Isn't this amazing?
Do you just hear what he's saying?
Do you just hear how he's talking to you, John?
Yeah, I'm an idiot.
Stupid, stupid, idiot.
Slave.
Obama would preserve a couple thousand dollars a year tax cuts for virtually all Americans, and even for people who make a lot.
They get to keep the tax cut on the first $250,000 of their income.
Under the Republican plan, however, people making more than a million dollars a year, they're going to be getting a tax cut of more than one hundred thousand dollars.
A million dollars a year!
One hundred thousand!
When you don't watch it and you listen to it and how he's really punctuating this, because of course we're all kindergartners and we have to understand how crazy this is.
If you have a million dollars, you get a hundred thousand dollar tax cut.
That's expensive.
Giving these big red eggs to the very high income people would cost $700 billion.
Giving these big red eggs...
...that we would have to borrow to give it.
If you ask objective economists and analysts around...
...who, by the way, will not mention because there are none...
...about what is effective, you will find that everyone agrees that these giants...
Everyone agrees!
The science is in!
Everybody agrees!
Everybody knows it!
Science!
Very high-income people are the least effective thing that we can do to get the economy growing.
And so what's happening in Congress is that the people that want this are saying nobody here can get any of these tax cuts unless we agree to give this big red goose egg to the...
Tom and Dick want to spit up goose eggs.
This one is the big red bad goose egg.
You don't want to eat that one.
People make it more than a million dollars a year.
It doesn't make any sense, it costs too much money, and we know it doesn't work.
That's right.
The science is in!
How do we know it doesn't work or works or whatever?
Because everyone agrees.
Oh, everyone?
Wait a minute, Adam.
Is it everyone who agrees?
Everyone agrees!
Okay.
Well, if everyone agrees, what can I say?
All right, let me just show you how evil these people are.
And I'm going to call out the president right now.
Because I have to do this because this was so blatant, so easy.
And just a couple of Google searches, I'm like, oh my gosh, this is unbelievable.
Un-frickin-believable.
So this is the, of course, it's only 30 seconds, this clip.
President Obama, in his weekly YouTube clip, is talking about...
Creating 1,000 jobs at this amazing solar power company, amazing in California, I'll have you know, that will power 140,000 homes.
And I'm thinking, wow, let's just listen to him call it out.
So this is his statement to the nation, to the world, and he chooses to highlight this company.
For example, I want to share with you one new development made possible by the clean energy incentives that we've launched.
This month, in Mojave Desert, a company called Bright Source plans to break ground on a revolutionary new type of solar power plant.
It's going to put about 1,000 people to work, building a state-of-the-art facility.
And when it's complete, it will turn sunlight into the energy that will power up to 140,000 homes.
The largest such plant in the world.
Okay.
So, it's kind of like him calling out this little shop, right?
You're like, wow, okay.
That's cool.
This is something good.
Sounds good.
I like it.
So, you should go look at BrightSource Energy.
And I'm hunting around, looking at BrightSource Energy, and the first thing I see is their investors.
And they have an interesting bunch of investors.
All people who are completely tied into the White House.
We know from full disclosure records that J.P. Morgan handles some of the President's money.
He doesn't actually call the shots.
So who's invested in this company?
Well, Morgan Stanley is invested in this company.
BP is invested in this company.
It's right on their website.
Google invested in this company.
But here's the kicker, John.
According to VentureBeat, Bright Source Energy quietly moves toward IPO in early 2011.
So, the way I'm seeing this is this company, which wasn't supposed to go public for three years, all of a sudden, it raises $330 million, some, by the way, from Vantage Point Venture Partners, who just invested in the last two weeks Two weeks, I think they put in $100 million.
There's arguably some of the President's money in there.
BP's money is in there.
And we know how the President was or maybe still is invested through Vantage.
Not Vantage.
Morgan Stanley.
Well, Morgan Stanley.
But there's another one.
Well, there's DBL investors.
I've never heard of them.
But now all of a sudden, they're going to go public.
And there's something called a quiet period, right?
Which I'm sure we're not in the quiet period yet.
But for the president to offhandedly mention this company that, without a doubt, people who funded his campaign are invested in and is now all of a sudden speeding up their IPO is an absolute atrocity.
It is.
That's ridiculous.
There's no reason for him to be plugging these guys.
What have they done?
The SEC should block this IPO because the president, he just made it attractive all of a sudden.
And they've got guaranteed government money.
I hate this.
That really pisses me off.
That is just enriching.
Just enriching yourself blatantly in front of the public.
And the president is in on the game.
And he's smiling.
Links in the show notes at noagendashow.com.
So, what's so special about these guys?
Nothing!
They've got a bunch of mirrors.
It's just a solar complex using mirrors to focus the power of the sun on solar receivers.
Yeah, they've got some mirrors out there in the desert.
So what?
This is old technology.
Hey, John...
Just correct me if I'm wrong.
Did Hillary Clinton not say in her campaign, and I think not just Hillary Clinton, but a number of people have said, Blackwater would no longer receive government money?
I thought Blackwater was cut off, yeah.
Yeah, well, turns out they just received a nice chunk.
Well, no, no, Blackwater doesn't exist anymore.
No, it's KZ. Yeah, well, they're different.
Well, no, it's not KZ either.
It is a small subsidiary.
International Development Solutions.
I've received a nice little chunk of a $10 billion contract from the State Department.
Thanks, Hill.
Good job.
Liars.
So, you know, if you dig deep enough, there's a couple other partners that are mentioned deeper into the site on this bright energy, whatever it is, this bright source.
Bright source energy, yeah.
Yeah, which includes PG&E and Bechtel, of course.
But then we have the government, apparently.
Oh, yeah.
Received a conditional commitment for $1.3 billion in loan guarantees in the Department of Energy.
And Siemens, our old buddy.
Oh, really?
Oh, nice.
Yeah.
And they're going to go public.
Oh, let's accelerate that.
Everyone get in.
Come on.
Everybody get in.
Google in.
Chevron.
Everyone's in.
This is their Christmas present.
That's what this is.
Hey, let's just all go give ourselves a nice big bonus.
Hey, Eric Schmidt.
You advise Barack?
Call him over there.
Yeah, tell him to put that in his weekly thing.
It's good.
It's good.
That'll really make the investors happy.
It's just unbelievable.
You know, this is basically an Israeli company.
That's the joke of it.
Oh yeah, there's lots of Israeli guys in there.
On the board, in the management.
Uh-huh.
I know.
In fact, the entire team is all Israeli.
Yeah.
Did you see Katherine Heigl?
Who's sketchy?
Did you see Katherine Heigl on Letterman?
No, I didn't.
Oh, well, first of all, she's awesome.
And she's a smoker.
But she stopped smoking, and I'm not quite sure how to interpret this, but...
She winds up pulling out her e-cigarette and actually Letterman takes a hit off of it, which is kind of funny.
But listen to what she has to say about one of our favorite products.
Oh, it's really, it's disgusting.
Well, and now when you started, it was just like one or two a day, or did you go, whoa?
Yes, that's exactly it.
It starts to start once a week, maybe with a cocktail with friends at a bar or whatever, and then you buy your first pack during a really stressful breakup.
And then it's downhill from there.
So I've tried everything.
I did the patch.
I did the gum.
I did the Shantax twice.
It went bananas.
No, no.
The Shantax is a prescription drug.
Is that what that is?
It is.
And it does really help.
I have to say it did really help.
I just woke up one day and forgot I ever wanted to have a cigarette, which is awesome.
That's why you had to try it twice.
Right.
So I'm not quite sure what the message is there, other than she went out of her mind on Shantix, which is...
Yeah, she says she went bananas.
Bananas, yeah.
But she did it twice, which I found peculiar.
Yeah, very odd.
And I'm not quite sure what happened there.
And then she brings out the e-cigarette, which is kind of funny.
But what...
This is crazy.
But now I do this.
Now I do the electronic cigarette.
I've never heard of this, never seen this, don't know what that is.
It's got a bejeweled bottom.
Uh-huh.
Hey, wait a minute!
What was it?
She's actually blowing out the vapor now.
Like, he's never seen this, right?
Never, ever.
Bet I'm freaking y'all out right now.
I'm not going to get arrested by the PC police!
Wait a minute, what was that?
It's water.
Uh-oh.
Uh-oh.
You still there?
That was interesting.
In the space.
Yeah.
But there's nicotine in there?
There is.
It's a battery.
This part is a battery that screws into an outlet.
And then this is the filter.
And this has liquid nicotine in it so that it heats it up.
And you feel like you're smoking.
You get the habit of this.
You blow out water vapor so you're not harming anyone around you.
And you're not harming yourself.
Will it make you dizzy when you take your head of the nicotine?
Yeah, try it.
Because I haven't had a...
I thought at first it was a dog whistle.
I just take a regular...
No, I'm not going to take a big one.
Okay.
That's what she said.
By the way, that was the best line and he just walked right over it.
That was a great line.
So that's kind of weird.
So it's Shantix and that didn't work and she tried it twice and then she's promoting the e-cigarette.
It's weird, which of course is under huge scrutiny right now.
And the FDA is in on this saying, oh, you can't have that.
That's evil.
You cannot smoke that.
There's something else here that concerns me.
Essentially, the amount of grief I have received from you for watching Letterman and deriving clips from the show.
Well, let me just point out...
I'm going to explain what happened here.
But yet, we get this you watching Letterman in a show I didn't even see, and I believe you must have some crush on this woman, and you have been stalking her.
She looks like Mickey, by the way.
Yes, in fact, Mickey is often confused for her in public.
You probably should get a few dinner reservations using Catherine Heigl as the name.
I just told her, when someone says, hey, Catherine, you say, yeah?
Just say, yeah.
I don't watch Letterman.
This clip was sent to me by one of our producers.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So, there you go.
Out of the blue, they did this.
Okay.
Yeah, yeah.
It's, you know, you just...
All right, well, anyway, so what have you concluded?
Well, I think Shantik's bad, e-cigarette good.
Maybe.
And I'm not quite sure who's in the running to actually come up with the legal version of the e-cigarette, which makes total sense.
And I've tried it before.
It doesn't quite give you the same experience, but it's okay.
I just think the companies that are making Shantix, Shantix is bad, e-cigarettes are good.
And they're going to get FDA approval, and that's why the FDA is involved, because you can't just be bringing this stuff in from China.
You know how it works with the FDA, you've got to sign a million dollar check.
We know this from previous testimony we've had on this show.
At least a million dollar check for them to do the clinical trials, etc., etc.
That can only be a big company.
So I think Shantix out, e-cigarette in.
That is the prediction.
Write that one down in the big prediction book.
Noagendapredictions.com, whoever is running that, you've got to step it up.
Yeah, you've got to step up.
We make the least two predictions a show.
So, did you hear about what happened in California?
Are you talking about the 15 Chinooks that flew by?
No, that's not California.
That's your house.
That's just my pad.
No, what happened in California?
They've decriminalized pot.
What, this is done?
Done deal?
Schwarzenegger wrote up a document saying, hey, this is bullcrap.
We're spending too much money enforcing these laws.
Now it's not even a misdemeanor if you get caught.
Really?
Yeah.
Happened about two days ago.
Now, do we have any documentation on this?
This is what's so funny.
Yeah, it's not all over the news.
Schwarzenegger marijuana, you'll find two or three stories.
This has not been picked up by the national media.
It's, like, been suppressed.
This is really weird.
And the fact that you don't know about it in LA, where the local news you'd think would be doing nothing but chatting about it, but no.
Uh-uh.
Nothing.
Quiet, quiet, quiet.
Don't let anyone know.
Wow.
No, I didn't know that.
So is this now a...
If you're roaming around and be a nuisance smoking dope on the street, the cops can give you a ticket.
No, no.
They write you up like it was a parking ticket and say, here, and you have to pay like $25 to $100 fine.
But if you smoke a cigarette, then they tase you.
Right.
It's like, hey, you're smoking a cigarette, I'm going to tase you, slave.
This is no good.
Shut up.
Yeah, this is the most underreported news story of the week.
It just astonishes me.
Do you have a link for me so I can put it in the show notes?
Well, just type in Schwarzenegger marijuana and you'll find it.
Go to Google News and there's a number of links, but they're just little bitty stories here and there.
Nobody paid much attention to it.
And I find the whole thing interesting that nobody paid any attention to it because there's a big battle going on.
And by the way, we'll have a special report on Thursday.
There's a book that came out that the book club should make note of called Nullification, How to Avoid Tyranny in the 21st Century, Federal Tyranny.
Oh, really?
So what meeting did I not get invited to?
To what?
That we have a special report on Thursday.
No, I have a special report.
Oh, please.
Here it is.
It'll come right after my education.
No, the education one I'm still working on.
I've got the link right here.
Senate Committee on Public Safety.
Senator Mark Leno.
He must be related to Jay.
An infraction is a crime.
The purpose of this bill is to specifically define possession of not more than one ounce, Wow!
Quite a bit.
Quite a bit in today's world.
Of marijuana as an infraction, an offense that under existing law is only punishable by a fine of up to $100 and not jail time.
Wow.
Well, you know why we don't know about this?
Because the presidential slut squad distraction team has been all over the news.
And someone sent me this clip from Bones.
You ever watch Bones?
No, I don't watch Bones.
I make a point of not watching it.
There's only so much I can watch.
Neither do I. But they did have a very interesting little discussion in Bones.
Hey, uh, hi.
It's nice to meet you.
I, um, I'm, uh, Hodgins, um, Dr.
Hodgins.
Uh, I am a big fan.
I just read the piece where you stuck it to CENCOM in 2009.
Thanks?
Hey, maybe while you're here, you can find out why every time there's a big story, and I mean like an earthquake or government corruption, there's always some celebrity story that takes focus.
You know, the BP oil spill.
Lindsay Lohan goes to jail.
And the country takes their eye off the ball.
Hodgins.
Media is used to distract us all the time.
You take it seriously?
Michael Jackson's funeral is on 24 hours a day, and nobody finds out about the coup in Honduras.
A fisher to me.
I love this woman.
We were talking about wingless aphids, Dr.
Hodgins.
Interesting, right?
Yeah, I like it.
That's totally what we talk about.
Yeah, that's exactly it.
Only we do it incessantly.
They do it once a year.
Exactly.
And we don't care about Honduras either.
We don't care about Honduras.
What we do care about is the fact that there is a group of people.
This group of people is probably approaching half a million.
And I believe that twice a week we are actually enlightening them and brightening up their lives.
Although sometimes you think you just want to get depressed by the stories that we talk about.
The feedback I get, and I think the reason why people want to support this show, is because when you understand it, then it's just not that bad.
You don't have to get that angry.
You don't feel frustrated.
Because your brain is an amazing device.
It's spinning around trying to figure out what is going on.
I've got, indeed, Lindsay Lohan with a scram bracelet.
And then we've got terrorists in Europe and homegrown terrorism and Mumbai-style attacks.
But when you kind of know it, then it makes you feel better.
Do you not have this, John?
I feel terrible.
Okay, it doesn't work for everybody.
But it does work for a number of you.
And we'd like to thank some people who supported this show for this episode and for the past week.
Not quite as much as we'd like to see.
In fact, it's...
We're down about half from last week, I think, aren't we?
Yeah, it's typical when we have a good week.
This is unfortunate.
We haven't been able to figure out how to correct this, although perhaps the douchebag thing, which seems to have disappeared completely, may have something to do with it.
But let's thank a few people who did help us this week.
John Martinez out of Gilroy, California.
It's also his birthday.
We'll give him a call out in a second.
His kids love hearing the In the Morning jingle coming from his iPhone.
In the morning!
Which is apparently what Adam has programmed when he does his call.
I don't even understand how it works.
It didn't work today, the bat signal.
The bat signal's down.
It's down.
It's broken.
Yeah, well, this is weird.
Daniel Hutner in Murphys, California.
Old gold mining area, if I'm not mistaken.
Double nickels on the dime.
Nick Shube from North Hollywood in Adam's Neck of the Woods.
Double nickels on the dime.
5510.
A new listener or a new contributor, actually.
Amanda Hafner in Manchester, Missouri, depending on what part of the state you're from.
5510, John and Adam, yesterday morning I was expressing a valid concern about a police officer and my boyfriend said, Honey, you're turning into Adam Curry.
Oh boy.
I think that means my free trial period is up.
Here's some money I'm signing up for subscription.
His free trial with his wife or his free trial with his show?
Her free trial.
Oh, okay.
Oh my God.
So Amanda's free trial is up, so she's now on board.
Robert Hall, another first-time donor.
Phoenix, Arizona, 5151, which is the insane thing.
Keep up the good work in the morning, guys.
All-American cubicle dweller in exile in Arizona.
And then finally, Michael Schultz, Palm Beach, Florida.
Kind of an expensive area.
$50.
Hello, guys.
I just registered the domain name, noagendajob.com, and we'll start a site where your listeners can find a CIO full-time, part-time, or just a project manager for IT. As Adam says, we have a few sysadmins that listen, and now we can offer IT staff to fans looking for IT support.
3% of net revenue will be donated to the show.
3%?
Hello.
3%?
The website is not up yet.
What is that, like tarp money?
What's 3%?
It's not up yet.
So you can go to noagendajob.com How does he figure 3%?
I don't know.
He's probably an agent.
He's from Palm Beach.
Come on.
These guys have all the money.
He's one of those guys with the big red goose egg.
He's got the big red Ferrari.
We appreciate anything, obviously, but 3%.
No, we appreciate anything, and if you're making millions, that'll be great.
Yeah, well, 3% of millions is perfect.
I want to thank everybody who donated the $42.
We should discuss this, because next Sunday we're going to have a special 10-10-10 celebration.
Yeah, it's the huge day.
It is the day, 10-10-10.
I think all the coins are out, all the...
10, 10, 10, 42 No Agenda coins at NoAgendaFans.com.
Challenge point number two.
Yeah, NoAgendaFans.com.
I think those are all gone.
I'm not sure about the No Agenda...
What is it?
The No Agenda pins?
Yeah, the pins I've been following.
We want to thank everybody who took out a $33.33 boarding pass, a $33.33 boarding pass subscription, $42 donation, which is what 10-10-10 is binary, as Adam has pointed out.
We're going to put up a special list of everybody who donated the $42 on the website on the celebration day.
Perfect.
Which will be on next Sunday.
It's a double, triple lucky day.
It's not going to happen again until 30-10.
Well, actually, 21-10, I guess, supposedly.
We'll also get 11-11-11.
And we got 1111 coming up.
Don't give them any hints.
I don't know if 1111 has quite the impact.
No, no, no.
101010, which is binary for 42, which according to the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, is the answer to all things in the universe.
I'm paraphrasing, but that's what it is.
And 42 is just one of those magical numbers.
And Eric sent me a note saying, don't send your ring sizes to me, send them to him, because he's coordinating the mailing to the Knights, which is Eric, A-R-I-C. At Eric Mackey, A-R-I-C Mackey, M-A-C-K-E-Y dot com, all one word.
How about ringsatnoagenda.com?
I'm just saying.
Yeah, we should have something like that.
We're just going to take a week or two to get half of the ring sizes, and the other people, well, you never said anything.
Yeah.
So, um...
Anyway, you can help us out by going to NoAgendaShow.com and clicking on the donation link or Dvorak.org slash N-A or Curry, I'm sorry, ChannelDvorak.com slash N-A. Yeah, and we really do need the support.
It's the only thing that keeps this show going.
We could easily have been making a million dollars each if we took commercial money because of the demographics of the show.
The demographics are pretty astonishing.
Outstanding.
I also want to thank all the $5 a month subscribers.
It's a positive thing.
And then James from NoAgendaWall.com, a little make-do here.
He says, My slaves donated $130 to No Agenda last week, but John incorrectly credited the payment.
He said Island 7.
It was on the spreadsheet.
I saw it that way, too.
Anyway, we can get that corrected.
And a shout-out to NoAgendaWall.com.
I keep getting more orders.
I need to update the tally.
We'll be sending another donation soon.
Keep up with the great work.
And we appreciate that, James, of course.
And then this was an interesting note I received.
Hey, Adam and John.
I have an amazing follow-up on my request for karma many, many weeks ago.
If you recall, I asked for some crazy karma for my gorgeous girlfriend, Sarah Stead.
Who was unfortunately unemployed for many months this summer.
As luck would have it, exactly nine weeks to the day after donating to the Karma Club, she got a job offer to be a graphic designer for a chain of luxury hotels headquartered in the area.
She started on Thursday exactly nine weeks after you had read my note aloud on the air.
Additionally, she had received three requests on that day to interview with other companies.
The job offer she got that day was the one she'd been hoping for.
Given I'm an avid listener of no agenda, I had my eye out for anything related to the number three or derivatives thereof.
About after week six, I started to lose hope that the karma was working, but much to my surprise, it kicked in at the last possible moment.
September was the last month she was able to survive on her savings before being in serious financial trouble, nay a fiasco, she says.
So, there you go.
You've got karma.
It's a beautiful thing.
The karma actually does apparently work.
It does in many instances.
We still need to document this better.
We don't really understand it.
I like it.
Yeah, me too.
We're not complaining.
Let me see.
We've got John Martinez...
Uh, yes.
So John is the one who normally tickles his kids pink with the in the morning sound coming out of the Pocket No Agenda iPhone app, although today apparently the bat signal seems to be broken.
He's celebrating his birthday.
John, happy birthday.
And then, uh...
Matt Schauer says, I know it's partially my fault my birthday mentions didn't get said on the last show.
I donated $55 in the morning.
Sorry, about an hour before the show, so I understand you missed it.
Then John wrote my name on Thursday's show, which failed to read the birthday mentions that I had in the email.
So, please wish a happy bladed birthday to Curtis Begeman and Matt Rawlinson, both September birthdays, from your buddy Matt Schauer and from your buddies here at the No Agenda Show.
Dvorak.org slash NA. ChannelDvorak.com slash NA. Or just go to NoAgendaShow.com and click on the donation button.
John, it's happening again.
Indeed.
Bad news, bad news, bad news.
Or could it be good news?
Come on, Snooki.
Come on.
Kathy and John Cooper have been trying to solve a gruesome mystery for nearly a year.
It startles you every time.
When you see them, you're like, there's another one.
Kathy says it was just Monday when they found yet another dead cow in their pasture.
They believe someone is poisoning them, then mutilating them.
It's almost like a surgically removed, um, cut.
It's just frustration, you know, it's like somebody's robbed you.
Monday's cow was the 20th the Coopers have lost.
Each time this happens, they call the Sheriff's Office, but investigators tell me they're just as confused.
No one can determine who is doing this or why.
They are very, like us, they don't, they scratch your head and can't make a lot of sense out of it.
It's the old mutilated cows.
Whenever the aliens are in town, cows get mutilated, John.
Well, you know, one thing we kind of missed out on talking about mutilation is the ninth foot found in Vancouver.
I don't have a jingle for foots.
Yeah, apparently at the end of August, we kind of missed this about the ninth foot.
And there's another one I think just found a couple weeks ago.
No, August is the end of August, the last human foot.
So the one thing that is now speeding around the interwebs is this video which I guess we're just calling the no pressure video.
Oh, yeah.
And I'm pretty sure most of the people who listen to the show have seen this.
It doesn't really make sense to play the audio.
Yeah, Dvorak slash blog has it.
Yeah, and noagendatv.com, of course, will have it.
But essentially, it's a highly produced video, three different scenarios.
One is this class, a school.
One is the workplace.
It's British, by the way.
And one is the soccer field.
And in all cases, it's 10-10.
It's 1010global.org is the website.
And the idea is to reduce...
Everyone's on board, by the way, according to this.
Everybody agrees.
Everyone's on board.
And it's governments, it's companies, it's people.
And Microsoft is a sponsor, by the way.
Yeah, everyone's on board.
And it's...
How do you see Microsoft's sponsor?
They're a sponsor.
I ran into the list of everybody that coughed up money, and Microsoft's one of the big ones.
See, I've been looking for that.
Well, let me get to the point.
And so what happens in this video is the people who don't agree with climate change, essentially, because the science is in, they explode.
No, they don't explode.
They are exploded.
They are exploded.
I'm sorry, yes.
The teacher presses a button and then...
And it's gory and messy and it really just blows everything up.
So the website is 1010...
Is that what it is?
1010global.org.
And it's kind of a weird site.
And it looks like the whole world is into this, and I'm trying to figure out.
So I did a Who Is, which is kind of like the first thing I do, and it comes up as Franny Armstrong from SpannerFilms.net.
Have you ever heard of Franny Armstrong?
No.
Well, she's quite famous.
She runs Spanner Films, and you can find that at spannerfilms.net.
And she has essentially created a number of movies.
I think it started with The Age of Stupid, MacLibel, and Drowned Out, three movies.
And she claims that this has been financed by individuals sending little bits and pieces of money.
And I just have a hard time believing it.
She has a Wikipedia entry.
British documentary film director working for her own company, Spanner Films.
Former drummer with the indie pop group The Band of Holy Joy.
Primarily known for three films, The Age of Stupid and about climate change.
McLeibel about the infamous McDonald's court case and drowned out following the fight against the Narmada Dam project.
This is a complete science as in...
Outfit.
Where did you find the Microsoft thing?
It's in the entry at Wikipedia.
Where is it?
I don't see it in Wikipedia.
Go to Wikipedia and go to 10 colon 10.
It says companies include the Royal Mail, Microsoft, Tottenham Hospital.
They have links.
These are citations with the footnotes.
Tottenham Hotspur.
Tottenham Hotspur, yeah.
The British Medical Journal.
FTSE 100 listed insurance company.
So she's out there shilling as if she's independent and that this was financed by just normal folks and people who are all for climate change and carbon emissions reduction.
But meanwhile, she's actually on the payroll of some of the biggest corporations in the world.
Well, they're donors.
How come we don't get donors like that?
Because we're not on the climate change bandwagon.
If we were, we probably would.
So, I just found it really interesting that this really high-grade film, which, by the way, they pulled down from their site with an apology.
Yeah, like, oh, well, you live and learn, they said.
And to me, it's like, this is perfect.
What better way to get publicity for your 1010 campaign?
I think they did a great job.
This is very good viral marketing.
Yeah, actually they probably got more publicity than if they'd actually run it.
Although I think it's all negative.
I think, you know, the kind of comments you get when you put it on your blog, it's amazing.
Except for the one or two guys.
Well, you have to make a point to get anyone to pay attention to climate change.
Yeah, that's right.
Because as you know...
The science is in!
Tesla Cars has recalled 400 of its battery cars.
How many has it shipped?
400.
Oh, okay.
I don't know how many there's shipped.
About 400.
400 seems like probably that's their entire...
it is it affects 439 roadsters sold under the 2.0 and 2.5 model names They've actually had a previous recall, 345 Roadsters, of their version 1.0.
Apparently a power cable in the vehicle could short out and catch fire.
Okay.
So, uh, doesn't sound too good.
No.
But they've just apparently started production with government money.
They got a huge amount of money.
Half a billion dollars.
From Obama.
Yep.
And, uh, since, you know, it's not Democrats and Republicans anymore, it's Obama.
No, it's Obama.
It's just Obama.
So Obama gave him the money, uh...
From his stash.
Sketchy operation, seems to me.
From his stash.
And, uh...
So rich people can buy a $125,000 extremely small electric car.
Yeah.
And it's a girly one at that.
A little bit.
I agree with that.
It's kind of a girly design.
So there's this...
Well, the Lotus by itself, I think, is just kind of a girly car.
So there's a tree snake.
You know, Letterman bought one and had to send it back because he couldn't get into it.
He can't fit in it now.
He's way too big for that car.
Six foot is about it.
Yeah.
It's girly.
So there's a tree snake problem in Guam.
And we have a base there, don't we, in Guam?
Don't we own that place?
Yep.
So the Navy has a rather novel way of getting rid of the tree snake problem.
How would you get rid of tree snakes, John?
I'm sure you've been an inspector for...
You shoot them.
Well, here's what they've done.
They are bombing the island with frozen mice stuffed with acetaminophen Acetaminophen.
Acetaminophen.
What is that?
This is some kind of poison, apparently.
Tylenol.
What?
Tylenol?
Yeah.
Does Tylenol kill snakes?
Well, in high doses, it'll kill you.
Wow.
Okay.
Well, why don't they just put poison in there?
They don't want the snakes to die with a headache.
Ha!
Here it is.
The frozen mice are strapped with cardboard wings and green streamers which slow their fall and catch them on tree branches.
Somehow I just really like this.
I think that's really cool.
And I'd like to see some video.
If we have any listeners in Guam, I'd like to see the frozen mice with cardboard wings falling from the sky.
I'd like to know what company got contracted to manufacture these things.
Oh, wait a minute.
Maybe I can find it from the Department of Defense Appropriations Bill here.
I might be able to find it, actually.
That's pretty funny.
I love that.
I love that kind of stuff.
That's very innovative.
That's how we are here in America.
We're very innovative.
We come up with really good stuff.
We come up with good stuff.
So there were indeed 15 Chinooks flying over the hills yesterday.
Play the emergency alert network broadcast copy.
Oh, hold on a second.
Got it here?
This is the coordinated monthly test of the emergency alert system equipment.
If this had been an actual emergency, you would have received timely emergency information.
This concludes this test of the emergency alert system.
What's the point?
Both Eric and I have noticed...
I don't know what that was.
Eric and I have both noticed this is being played a lot.
Oh, really?
But doesn't that happen at the beginning of each month?
Isn't it like the first Tuesday of each month?
Maybe it's just a coincidence.
But it's so old-fashioned, because I guess these beeps are something it's supposed to trigger.
Yeah.
I mean, I don't think it actually works anymore.
I wonder.
I mean, because the way it used to work, having worked at a 10-watt FM station in Salem, West Virginia...
Is you actually have an emergency broadcast system box, and it's monitoring another station, apparently a bigger station nearby, and when those tones are triggered, then that triggers your emergency broadcast box, and then you start to broadcast the tones.
I mean, although it happens to be broken today, but I mean, I can send an alert to iPhone apps.
I mean, what is this bullcrap?
It makes no sense.
It just makes no sense that that is actually how the emergency broadcast...
And by the way, did that go off on September 11th?
Don't worry, I have the answer for you.
No.
It failed.
Nothing went off.
Anyway, Slave Greg here in the Hollywood Hills says he just shot a little YouTube, which we'll put up on NoAgendaTV.com and the show notes, NoAgendaShow.com, of these 15 Chinooks, just so you know that I'm not crazy, these 15 Chinooks flying over the Hollywood Hills.
And he sent me a follow-up note, you know, you and John always say that the real news has more to do with movie promotions than actually being useful.
Well, I ran across an article about a movie coming out in 2011 called The Battle for Los Angeles.
No.
And look at the first photo.
Chinooks!
With UFOs around them.
So they could actually just be filming the movie, for all I know.
They probably are.
It probably is exactly that.
And Greg, you're on the ball, my friend.
That's a very, very astute bit of work there you've done.
You know, we find the movie angle on so many stories nowadays that I'm wondering that when somebody, in hindsight, a hundred years from now gets a hold of all our old shows, it turns out that everything...
Was a movie.
Was a movie.
Yeah.
We actually brought no insight to anything.
It was just all about movies.
I'm telling you, the plot involves an alien attack on Los Angeles and a platoon must fight to save the city.
According to the makers of this film, this movie is based on true events from the 1942 Battle of Los Angeles where an unidentified object appeared over the city, initiating air raid sirens and a barrage of anti-aircraft gunfire.
And here's a picture of a UFO flying through, I'm going to count them, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 10 in the picture.
Well, there could easily be five.
It's probably taken from one.
There's probably four others.
So I'm thinking that these guys, what I'm worried about, that they're flying around my house, they're doing a movie shoot.
Yeah.
It's the same colored Chinooks, by the way.
It could be.
By the way, the chat room says they've been noticing these emergency alerts on a weekly basis.
Really?
Well, it's because of Mumbai-style attacks.
That's why, John.
It could be.
Mumbai-style attacks on the way.
On the way, my friend.
Some Haiti news.
We finally got a bio for Thomas C. Adams.
This is the dude from the State Department who is now in charge of the money for Haiti.
He's the money man.
So they finally put up a biography page for him at the State Department with a crazy URL. So he has to get that from the show notes.
Haiti Special Coordinator.
Term of appointment.
September 30, 2011, to present.
So I guess it's just one year.
It's funny they do that backwards.
He's named Special Coordinator for Haiti by Secretary of State Clinton.
He is returning to the department after retiring in June of 2008 from a 35-year career in the U.S. government, much of it focused on managing foreign assistance.
Spook!
And what was he doing during his retirement?
He was...
Teaching at the Foreign Service Institute.
You know what the Foreign Service Institute is?
Yeah, it's a CIA front, isn't it?
It's where they teach spooks!
It's literally, it's spook school, where they teach you, you know, culture and language of all these countries.
Yeah, it's mostly for economic hitmen, right?
It's totally spook, yeah, hitmen, spook school.
He also served as the vice chairman of the Romanian American Foundation, a $150 million grant-making organization which supports education and other initiatives aimed at promoting a strong market economy and the rule of law in Romania.
Yeah.
So they had to bring this guy out.
There was no one else.
No one else who could figure out how to get the money to Haiti except for this.
And I've got to send this to you, John.
You just got to look at this.
Hold on.
You got to look at this guy.
Tell me that this guy, he might as well have a badge that says spook.
He just looks like one.
They do all get a look at it.
Totally.
You know, one of the problems that they do have is that there's a milieu thing that takes place.
You know, it's like if you hang around cops for a long time.
This happened to me.
When I was an air pollution inspector, I was working with this when they had also a bunch of police that were brought in to do pullover trucks and violators or smoking cars.
And so you'd hang out with all these cops.
And after a couple of years of hanging out with cops...
You'd go into a bar or something, and people would say, are you a cop?
Yeah, exactly.
Because you'd pick up these nuances that you don't even know you have.
And I had them for a while.
It was great, by the way.
And everyone thought you were a cop.
And then after I stopped working with these guys, it took about two or three years for it to go away.
I never knew what it was.
But back in the day, they didn't say cop is at Fed, didn't they?
No, I was a cop.
You look at local police.
Which is different, I guess, than the Fed.
That would be a different milieu.
But you have all these characteristics that you don't even know what they are.
And spooks are very much the same way.
There's nothing they can do about it because you're having meetings all the time with other spies.
You have to go to the office once in a while.
You're going to pick up a certain look and feel and a milieu indicator that people, if they know what they're doing, they can spot you.
I don't know how they deal with that.
You've got to go to the office.
That's funny.
I've got to go to the office once in a while.
Did you see the picture of the guy?
Did he look like a total spooker?
Yeah, he looks like he probably.
Yeah, I can't.
Yeah.
So anyway, so just...
They always have either the gray or sandy gray hair.
We have...
I've never seen a black-haired spy.
There's something on the stream today, John, which is...
Yeah, it could be our stream provider, but maybe just once again we're getting too close to the truth.
I'm always very suspicious of that.
Why now it's like some countries is not working, whatever.
But there's more Haiti news.
This is great.
This is from Reuters.
You're going to love this.
Haiti has asked an architectural planning charity founded by Britain's Prince Charles to help guide the rebuilding and makeover of the earthquake-devastated historic center of Port-au-Prince.
So it wasn't bad enough that we have that jabroni Clinton in there.
Now they're bringing in his wingman, Prince Charles.
So I'm at the store yesterday.
There's the National Enquirer.
There's another one called The Globe.
Yes.
Well, it's the same company, right?
Headline.
Big headline across the globe.
It says, Prince Charles is gay.
Oh, news alert.
That's what Mimi said when I mentioned this.
Really?
You don't say.
Prince Charles is gay.
No, really?
But it was funny.
I should have bought it except for the fact that the Globe, this is a rag, right?
It's $3.69 to buy one crowd.
You know, just for the headline, it wasn't worth it as a frameable artwork.
And we are on a budget, let's be honest.
Yes.
Well, after this week's donations.
We're on a budget.
So anyway, and this company, they've cut something called the Smart Code, which is a way they build urban areas and...
It's just more elites moving in.
Bad.
Just bad news.
I feel really, really bad.
And I think we need to talk about Stuxnet, John.
Because I've been doing a lot of study.
I got a lot of emails, but not really from any sysadmins, which makes me kind of wary.
So I got an email from someone who works in the industry but cannot be identified.
He has to be anonymous.
He is a $5 a month supporter of the show.
He says, it's been really hard listening to you and John go on about the Stuxnet virus.
I work for a Siemens competitor as a network and server infrastructure and security consultant.
We've been tracking Stuxnet for months now since it directly impacts our industry.
First of all, he says the stolen digital certificates are for signing drivers.
Apparently these stolen certificates does appear to be real.
They are valued, if you had to buy them on the black market, at $250,000 per certificate.
Then he goes into a whole bunch of things about when no one really knows what this thing is intended to do.
The primary mode of transmission is via Windows vulnerability.
It's in how icons are handled.
Viewing the icon is enough to cause an infection.
A vulnerability, quote, this good, is worth $250,000 to $500,000 on the black market.
So that doesn't sound like that's any type of state that is doing this.
They issued their report, the w32.stuxnet dossier.
It's a PDF linked in the show notes, noagendashow.com.
I have read through this entire document and found a couple of interesting things.
So how do they link this to Iran?
And actually the Mossad and Iran.
In their report...
There's a value found in one of the DLLs.
I'm paraphrasing here.
The value is equal to 19790509.
That's when apparently the threat will exit, which makes no sense when you hear the next line.
This is thought to be an infection marker or a do-not-infect marker.
Okay, so if the machine somehow has this value in it, then it will not be infected.
If this is set correctly, infection will not occur.
The value appears to be a date of May 9th, 1979.
And this is in the official report.
While on May 9th, 1979, a variety of historical events occurred, according to Wikipedia...
Habib Aikhanian was executed by a firing squad in Tehran, sending shockwaves through the closely knit Iranian Jewish community.
He was the first Jew and one of the first civilians to be executed by the new Islamic government.
This prompted the mass exodus of the once 100,000 member strong Jewish community of Iran, which continues to this day.
Symantec cautions readers on drawing any attribution conclusions attackers would have the natural desire to implicate another party.
I mean, this is crazy.
What is going on with this?
And this is an official Symantec report, and they're like, oh, this date, oh, Wikipedia that, oh, this has got to be about the Mossad.
I don't know.
You got me.
Then there's, and this is the date that I think you want to write down in the book, the date that nothing will happen.
Stuxnet reads a date from the configuration data.
If the current date is later than the date in the configuration file, then infection will also not occur and the threat will exit.
The date found in the configuration file is June 24, 2012.
That is apparently when the world demises.
June 24, 2012.
And, uh...
I don't know, man.
It's like...
I just...
I have a very, very hard time believing this is real.
I mean, it may be a real worm, but now The Week has...
The front page of their magazine cover is the worm in Iran.
According to other reports from Gitmo Nation Lowlands, this worm has already attacked a satellite and has disabled a satellite.
The satellite being...
Hmm.
Insat 4B, which knocked out 70% of all Indian satellite television, who then had to switch to a Chinese provider.
That would indicate Chinese origin of the worm.
That could be what it's all about.
Grabbing some contracts.
Well, there's only two things I can think of.
One, it's total bullshit.
Yeah, it's out there, but it's just...
Distraction or whatever or be afraid or let's get the cyber security team to lock down the internet or it's actually the demon as written by David Suarez and it's out to bring down all companies worldwide which is what I'm really hoping for.
That would be great.
Read Demon and Freedom.
I have a copy.
I'll read it.
You'll be hoping it happens.
It sounds great.
I'd love to be a part of the Darknet.
If he brings us in more donations, I'd hope.
Well, we'd get Darknet points, credits.
Okay.
You're done with that one?
Yeah.
I just had to update it because it's fascinating to me.
Yeah, no, I think you should keep following it because obviously we do not have any inside track on this thing at all.
Somebody must.
Well, here's the question I have, and this is what I can't find anywhere.
Why is it called Stuxnet?
Because nowhere do I find a reference that says it logs as Stuxnet.dll or anything like that.
Where does this name come from?
That's what I want to know.
Stuxnet.
Where did the name come from?
Why?
Why?
What does that refer to?
Because that's clearly the biggest clue, and they'll appreciate the anonymous information from a competitor to Siemens.
I want sysadmins.
I want people who have had their hands on this thing to take a look at it.
I don't see them coming up with anything, and I trust the sysadmins.
Yeah, more than anybody else.
Okay, go to www.
This is, by the way, just a stub, as it were, of an idea.
But there's something up with this particular website and a company, a couple of groups called, have you ever heard of Environment America?
No.
Staff in 29 states in Washington, D.C.? Environment America?
No.
Yeah, environmentamerica.org.
But first, before you go there, go to Go60...
They're behind Go60MPG.org.
Oh, no.
cmpg.org. Let's drive away from oil.
Ha ha ha ha.
Act now to get an average fuel efficiency of 60 miles per gallon by 2025.
What is this about?
What is the point?
I'm not sure.
That's why I said it's a stub.
But Environment America comes up in the thing, and so does the Natural Resources Defense Council.
The Sierra Club and the Union of Concerned Scientists will go along with anything.
I think they've got nothing to do with this.
But there's this Environment America thing, which is another big boy, and they're huge.
And I think they're behind this because their website is very similar.
It looks like it was designed by the exact same person.
And, uh...
I'm just wondering who these guys are.
If anybody knows, they're on 44 Winter Street in Boston in the Federal Advocacy Office.
This is an expensive operation.
You can't have a Federal Advocacy Office in downtown Washington, D.C. without spending a few bucks.
Oh, yeah.
Real estate there is a bitch, I hear.
So, they've stopped attacking our...
Our systems...
It's the Stuxnet, dude, I'm telling you.
They've stopped attacking our Skype connections directly.
They've just gone straight to the provider.
You know, I'm streaming, the stream is going out, but it's being blocked or chopped or whatever.
Well, luckily most people download the...
Yeah, but it's annoying.
Yeah, totally.
Well, it's just enough to annoy you and throw you off track.
Well, no, I just want to restart the server and now I can't find the restart button again.
Hmm.
Anyway.
Let's do some of your clips, man.
You've got a couple of good clips I don't want to miss out on.
Well, there's nothing great here, but let's play a couple of things.
I thought this was interesting.
Let's talk about this.
Play the thoughts on Rahm Emanuel.
Ooh, yes.
Who indeed left to be...
To run for mayor of Chicago.
I mean, stylistically, I think there was some dysfunction in the West Wing that had to be dealt with because of Emanuel's personality and his approach to issues.
But there was a lot that was accomplished.
The difficulty is what was accomplished isn't necessarily popular.
I think where you're going now with Rouse, with some others from the campaign coming in like a David Plouffe, what's interesting is what does it all amount to, you know?
And I think what you're seeing is more of a return to what was really effective about the architecture of the 2008 campaign.
And perhaps in Pete Rouse, where Emmanuel was not as effective, is confounding something that Peggy talks about.
How good was Obama at confounding his Republican critics?
Well, as it turned out, not very good.
And maybe they've got a cast now who might be a little better at that.
Okay, you can stop.
So they could go confounding.
Who cares?
So I was listening to this.
There's a bunch of specials about this.
There's one funny line in here, which I don't have, which is, you know, Peggy Noonan says, you know, how important is this to the average person?
Does the wife come barreling into the bedroom saying, honey, honey, Rahm is out.
Nobody cares except for the fact that these guys have become so powerful.
So I did a little research on the history of the chief of staff, which during the Roosevelt administration and before...
Roosevelt, maybe it was Truman that changed this a little bit, but Nixon definitely.
This person was always called the personal secretary to the president.
And that's what he was.
He made sure that there wasn't conflicts.
He wasn't like this guy who's a big ogre that bosses people around like Emmanuel does, or in the fact of the Nixon administration, was Haldeman, who apparently was to be feared.
And somebody analyzed this properly, saying somehow along the lines, this chief of staff, an unelected official, has essentially become America's prime minister.
Really?
Yeah, and if you think about it, it's like a new thing.
I mean, you never had this, why is this guy so powerful?
He's not an elected official.
Why is he calling the congressman and threatening people and being this horrible character while the president is isolated?
When was it okay for the president to be isolated from the public and this chief of staff character to run everything?
Yeah, and did you see the guy that they've brought in?
Yeah, Rouse, a professional.
The guy, what did the president say?
Rouse will fix it, whatever.
No, what's his name?
I don't know what his first name is.
Let me look.
Something like that.
Yeah, something like that.
Yeah, he was the chief of staff for Daschle when he was in the...
What bothered me about that whole handover, which I saw live, I mean, how could you miss it, is, first of all, Emmanuel standing there with this whole Napoleonic complex.
Yeah, Pete Rouse.
Yeah, Pete, right.
He's standing there, you know, with his hands on his hips, you know, like...
And then it's just this whole congratulatory thing, which really just brought bile up in my throat.
You know, Rahm was instrumental in bringing us back from the brink.
You know, we didn't have the depression, thanks to Rahm.
We didn't have this, thanks to Rahm, thanks to Rahm.
Is Rahm the guy running the thing now?
I mean, this is the problem we were running into, is the government is completely out of control.
And now we have these non-elected officials.
Clinton tried this a little bit with Hillary, giving her all his powers to do the health care stuff, which she screwed up, we should mention.
Uh...
But these chiefs of staff seem to be running the country.
Obama's just out giving speeches, floating around the world.
What does he do?
He didn't elect Rahm Emanuel to run the country.
Why is he running the country, or was?
Dude, you're asking me.
Anyway, I'm just pointing this out.
I think we have to keep an eye on this because this is a bad trend.
No, it's horrible.
And I think this really started with the TV show The West Wing.
Excellent.
That's exactly where it started, at least in the modern iteration.
It actually took place, I mean, the actual change took place, I think, with the Nixon administration with Haldeman.
And I think it's been, and somebody said, well, this is great.
We can just have these guys run the place.
Jim Baker ran the White House during Reagan, did very well.
And in fact, the show that I had the clip from, they were going on and on about how the different chiefs of staff did various quality work, with Jim Baker being the best ever, supposedly.
And now we have these new guys, and they seem to be running everything.
I mean, why don't we just vote for them?
Why are we voting for the president so he can pick some guy to run things?
I mean, this is kind of like Russia.
We have these unelected people that are chosen by the elected person, and they end up running everything.
It's a little bit like the city manager model in a lot of towns.
You elect a mayor, they hire a city manager, and they run the whole show.
What the hell would we elect the mayor for?
I don't know.
There you go.
I don't know how that works.
I got you buffaloed.
You totally do.
You got me totally buffaloed.
I don't know how that works.
Anyway, I'm keeping an eye on this.
I think it's a bad trend.
I think it's a bad trend in the history of the country.
Okay, I have the clips.
Yes.
Just a little aside, kind of a lightweight clip.
This is just Bernie Sanders, who is a character.
He's a troublemaker, an independent from Vermont.
And I think this is an interesting little ditty he had in a testimony.
He likes to, instead of asking questions of the people testifying, he makes these comments.
And this is him talking about a very interesting comment on the income gap.
Oh, hold on.
For some reason that misfired, sorry.
Saw a $2,000 a year decline in medium family income.
The issue I want to talk about, which I hear very little discussion about and I want your views on, is the fact that the United States today has the most unequal distribution of income and wealth of any major country on Earth.
Sometimes we talk about the economy like we're all in this together.
We clearly are not.
Now I want your judgment and tell me what you think.
In 2007, The wealthiest 1% earned 23.5% of all income in America.
In the 1970s, that number was 8%.
Top 1% in the 70s earned 8%.
Top 1% now is earning almost 24% of all income.
Do you think that that is okay?
Do you think that that is an issue that the president should focus on?
Do you think it's morally okay?
Do you think it's economically okay?
You know, I think that the distribution of income is a challenge and a problem, and it's something that we need to focus on.
I think as a matter of federal policy, it's really one of the things that drives the debate on whether or not to extend the tax cuts for people earning over $250,000 a year.
That would be the wrong thing to do at a time when we have the disparity.
This tax cut thing is really dragging me down.
I'm so happy.
They won't make their minds up.
They won't even vote on it before the elections.
It's ridiculous.
I mean, they either do it or don't do it.
I mean, they can't figure out whether it's a good thing or a bad thing, whether they should soak the rich or let it slide.
But it's not really soaking the rich.
I mean, it won't even make that big a difference, from what I understand.
It's just like a distraction, just to talk about something.
It's a huge distraction, yeah.
Just to talk about something else, you know?
It just makes no sense to me.
And what are we actually talking about?
You know, I... When I was a young boy, yeah, kid, when I was a kid, you know, people would talk about America and they'd say, you know, the one thing I really like about America, I'd say, what's that?
The one thing I like about America, this is always people who had visited America.
If you're driving a Rolls Royce in America, people look at you and congratulate you and say, good job, good on you.
I'm really proud that you made it and you made yourself rich and that's great.
And that's always what people who live in, children from foreign lands who have visited the United States will always say that they were always envious of that.
And here we are, you know, it's not even about the money, it's about fuck the rich!
That's the way I perceive it.
I ran a story on the blog about the, really a very interesting car, the Bugatti Veyron.
Oh, yeah.
Which is a V, not a V, it's a W-shaped engine with 16 cylinders and just like two million bucks new or whatever.
And it was interesting to look at the comments.
It was like, if I saw one of those, I'd T-bone it.
Yeah.
Instead of saying, wow, that's a pretty car.
It's interesting that guy can afford it.
But no, I'll T-bone it.
We're about two steps away from becoming Mexico and kidnapping people who drive a Rolls Royce or a Mercedes even.
In fact, in Mexico City, you're always told, no, nobody drives.
You drive an old, beat-up Volkswagen.
The more money you're worth, the junkier the car you drive.
Because you can't take a chance.
You're going to get kidnapped.
Yeah, it's really disconcerting.
And I don't know what to do about it.
Luckily, I don't really hear this.
Of course, I live in Los Angeles, so it doesn't count.
This is not really America.
But I'm not really hearing this meme propagating on the street.
I don't hear people going around like, Yeah, man, we've got to have the rich people pay for it.
These Bush tax cuts, man, that's an outrage.
I don't hear anyone talking about that.
Do you?
No, but you do hear a lot about it on TV from Democrats who are trying to...
And what exactly are these...
How can we take advantage of these great tax cuts?
I guess first we have to make $250,000 a year.
That would be step one.
Yeah, and then what are these...
Do we even know what the tax cuts are about?
Do we even know what the package is?
There's essentially just a lot of extra deductions for being married, for having kids, and things like that.
It's not really, I mean, it's pretty straightforward.
If they end these tax cuts, it's going to sink the economy, let's put it that way, and everybody knows it.
Really?
Yeah.
Why is that?
Well, Mimi, you have the rundown on this.
Oh, don't bring Mimi in.
No, I'm just asking her to tell me because she gave me the lecture last night.
But there's a lot of bad things that will take place.
It will just basically, everyone's going to have to pay a lot more money.
Right.
And it's going to sink the economy because you're going to have to scrimp.
Until you get used to the new numbers.
I thought it was like such a little amount of money that it really didn't matter.
Not for people I'm making under.
It's like, you know, a thousand here, a thousand there.
It probably amounts to about five to ten thousand dollars for people, you know, in the...
Really?
Yeah.
You won't like it, let's put it that way.
Wait a minute.
I don't understand it.
If the Bush tax cuts are retired, then you're telling me that it's going to cost me, who makes less than $250,000 a year, it's going to cost me $5,000.
If you make $100,000, yeah, absolutely.
It'll cost you at least $5,000.
Why?
I don't understand.
I thought it was only tax cuts for the rich.
I'm not rich.
I don't hit the $250,000 mark.
That's for everybody.
That's the problem.
It's not just for the rich.
The tax rates increase for everyone.
But, John, you mean they're lying to me?
They call it tax cuts for the rich to get political votes, but it's just tax cuts for everybody.
No, they're very clear about it.
It's tax cuts for the wealthiest Americans who make over $250,000 a year.
They're very clear about this.
They're not voting in a new tax cut for the people making under $250,000.
They're pulling the plug on the whole thing.
I don't understand.
I keep getting told that this is only for people who make over $250,000 a year.
You're telling me this is not true?
The Bush tax cuts were for everybody.
No, they were for the rich!
They call it tax cuts for the rich because the rich get a tax cut too.
Wow!
But wait a minute.
Where does the over $250,000 come from?
I'm confused.
Where does that come from?
That has to come from somewhere.
Yeah, it comes from the Democrats saying they want to pull the plug on the tax cuts for the rich.
In other words, you have the tax cuts for everybody.
So let's make an arbitrary line at $250,000 and screw them.
Their tax cuts are over, but everybody else gets to keep theirs.
Well, they haven't voted for that.
They just keep talking about it.
And now that the Republicans who don't have control of anything, but apparently the Republicans said, no, we don't want to do that.
We want to keep the tax cuts intact the way they are.
And the Democrats said, oh, the Republicans are screwing us.
They won't agree to anything unless we make it to tax cuts for everybody, for the rich, tax cuts for the rich.
And so it's all bull crap because most of these Democrats have more money than the Republicans.
They want to...
You know, reinstate the tax cuts for the rich more than the Republicans do.
The Republicans are just, you know, showboating.
They have no power.
They haven't got the votes.
What difference does it make what they think?
Wait a minute.
Hold on a second.
Let me listen.
Let's go back to the whiteboard.
Maybe I'd have to listen to this.
Now I'm very, very confused because I thought that Obama had little blue dots for everybody, which was good, and the GOP, as it says here on the whiteboard, has the big red goose egg.
Which is bad.
You may have been following.
We've got a big back and forth going about the tax cuts.
What I wanted to do today is just break it down real simple so you can understand exactly what the debate is about.
Okay, so John, this is supposed to be simple for us.
Can you please work with me on this?
Okay?
Help me.
Is Mimi listening too?
She might be able to help.
Here we go.
Doesn't George Bush pass tax cuts that will expire at the end of this year?
Okay.
He passed tax cuts that will expire at the end of this year.
Were these tax cuts for everybody or just for rich people?
No, no.
These tax cuts were for everybody.
Okay.
That's interesting because he does indeed...
Mr.
Gulag here doesn't say just for the rich.
He just says tax cuts.
Okay.
And what I've done here is we got a ruler and measured out the size of the tax cut, is how big the circle is, by your income, which is listed at the top.
Okay, so it's 10%, essentially, because he's going to say later on, people with a million dollars would have saved $100,000, and people with $100,000 would save $1,000.
That's kind of what he's saying, right?
Okay.
Or 10,000.
Sounds like...
He doesn't say 10,000.
When it comes, up to people who make more than a million dollars a year.
Obama would preserve a couple thousand dollars a year tax cuts for virtually all Americans.
Okay.
So he wants to preserve tax cuts under $250,000.
Is that what's being said?
Yeah.
Even for people who make a lot, they get to keep the tax cut on the first $250,000 of their income.
Ah, okay.
Now I understand.
Oh, boy.
Wow, that's really interesting.
Thank you for helping me through this.
So these tax cuts were not the Bush tax cuts for the rich.
They want to put legislation in place that actually turns those into tax cuts for the rich.
Uh, no.
No, wait, wait, no, no.
They want to say up to 250, no, no, it's retroactive.
So they'll say these tax cuts don't expire if you make under, that's the legislation they are proposing but they haven't voted on.
I haven't even seen the legislation.
So we'll keep them in place up to $250,000 and everyone over $250,000, those go away.
Is that what's happening?
Okay.
But they're twisting it around and saying Bush had tax cuts for the rich, but that would only be true if...
It's not true.
This is basically the problem.
No, it was tax cuts for everybody, but the Democrats like to promote the tax cuts for the rich, saying, why do these guys get a big break?
But we all get a break.
We all get a break with these tax cuts.
Everyone gets a break.
So if they retire them and they don't vote on the $250,000 or below level, then we all get screwed.
Right.
In fact, the lowest tax bracket becomes 15%.
All of the brackets rise by 3%.
And the top bracket goes from 35% to 39.6%.
So, the top bracket shows up probably at, you know, 50 grand or so.
Okay, let me just listen to the last 30 seconds of this, and then I'll know if I completely understand it.
Under the Republican plan, however, people making more than a million dollars a year, they're going to be getting a tax cut of more than $100,000.
Right, but that means that people making $100,000 are also getting a tax cut.
Yeah, under the Republican plan, under the goose egg plan.
That's expensive.
Giving these big red eggs to the very high-income people would cost $700 billion that we would have to borrow to give it.
If you ask objective economists and analysts around the country about what is effective, You will find that everyone agrees that these giant tax cuts for very high income people are the least effective thing that we can do to get the economy growing.
Okay.
Okay.
I get it.
Now I finally understand.
There's a bunch of other things.
Mimi wrote down a note here to read.
Tax rates on dividends goes up.
Child tax credit cut in half.
Personal exemption is phased out.
Marriage penalty increases.
All these things.
Increased capital gains.
So these are all...
If the tax cuts expire...
Then all of these taxes come back on everybody.
But again, what the Democrats are saying is...
I'm sorry, Obama.
Not the Democrats.
Obama.
Is they want to put legislation in that would make it only for...
People who make over $250,000.
Is there a bill anywhere?
Has there something been drawn up?
Is there something I can read?
Yeah, I think there's a couple of bills out there, but here's the deal.
They're not going to vote on this until after the elections, and I think what the showdown is is the following.
The Republicans want this to be the way it was before, and they're going to just not vote at all.
And the Democrats are going to have to either do it themselves, which they can, which they can before the elections.
They might not be able to until after – they might not be able to after the elections.
But the Democrats could just vote this crazy idea in right now, this just soak the rich and let the rest of us keep the tax benefits we had.
But they won't do it.
They're afraid to do it.
Because whatever happens, if tax rates go up, they figure that they're going to get blasted in the 2012 elections.
And you won't be able to blame the Republicans.
But after the elections, they might be able to.
I mean, the whole thing is political.
They don't care about our tax rates at all.
Wow, so I'm actually blown away by this.
So essentially what's happening here is the Ministry of Truth is propagating the message that Bush had tax cuts for rich people.
And then the worst part about it, by the way, the 250 limit, which is the reason the Republicans are probably against the idea generally, even though I think they'd rather just stall it so people get totally screwed and Obama gets voted out.
But 250 really includes small businesses, a lot of small businesses.
Middle-income people who have dry cleaners and small businesses, everything's rolled into their income tax.
And so the $250,000, they're going to get nailed.
It's going to put a lot of small businesses, which, by the way, is the big trend in this country, is to screw the small business guy and make big corporations the most important thing.
And the whole thing stinks.
Wow.
It's in.
Well, would you please thank Mimi for certainly setting me straight on that, and that's really interesting.
Now I'm going to start reading some of these proposals, because this is something that if you can explain it properly, and maybe you need a whiteboard with some big goose eggs...
Then you can really blow people away because this is a huge lie.
It's just a big lie.
I don't even think the jabronis on television understand it themselves.
They all believe that there are Bush tax cuts for the rich.
Well, the meme is in.
Once the meme guy establishes tax cuts for the rich...
I mean, they were stuck with it because the news readers, the Rick Sanchez's of the world, were using the term.
Rachel Maddow says it constantly and so does Olbermann.
What are you supposed to do?
What we're supposed to do is you and I will come up with a way to help people explain this in three sentences or less for Thursday's show so they can go out and hit people in the mouth about this.
Because this is an outrage.
I mean, it's one thing about being lied to about 9-11, but this tax cuts for the rich thing, that really has me pissed off.
Good.
Coming to you from Gitmo Nation West in the People's Republic of Southern California, I'm Adam Curry in the morning.
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