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Sept. 19, 2010 - No Agenda
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Why, they don't even have their name trademarked.
They don't know what they're doing.
They don't have a trademark.
They're idiots.
They're stupid.
I can't believe it.
They're throwing money away.
Yeah, they're leaving money on the table.
Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak.
It's September 19th, Sunday.
It's 2010.
Time to give my nation media assassination episode 236.
This is no agenda.
Smoking an old Holborn, rolling rice paper, because I'm still allowed to here at the Hilltop Watchtower, Crackpot Command Center, and Gitmo Nation West in the People's Republic of Southern California.
In the morning, I'm Adam Curry.
And from northern Silicon Valley, where the trains are running at low speeds, I'm John C. Dvorak.
In the morning It's Crackpot and Buzzkill.
I'm trying to hit an in the morning when you make me laugh.
Sounds like you're falling on the in the morning.
I slipped.
You're right.
I'm trying to play it off.
In the morning to you, John.
And in the morning to you and all ships at sea and to the human resources out there.
Well, not just out there.
The ones that are in the chat room at NoAgendaChat.net.
That's where the party always is.
Hope you're all nice and charged up because your government wants you that way.
Generate some electricity.
Might as well get used to it.
Yes, indeed.
Ah, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow.
So he got an interesting letter from a fan, producer.
Actually, I think a knight isn't Dardarian as a knight.
Oh yeah, he's a knight now.
That's right, he was a knight.
Yeah, sir.
Sir, yes, make no mistake, sir, Dardarian.
It was a great note, actually.
Why don't you read it, John?
I don't have it.
Oh, you douchebag!
I've got the other thing on my screen.
You are such a douchebag!
You're like, I want to do this thing.
The whole prep is like...
No, I said you read the letter and then I'm going to go into the middle of the slalom.
You call in and I'm like, here's what I want to do.
I want to do this.
I want to go there.
I want to start with this.
I want to start with that.
See, this is why we don't rehearse and even try.
And then you say, now, do you have that link?
And I go looking for the link.
Okay, I have the story.
Hi, guys.
I have to tell you a very quick story that made me proud.
This is from Sir Erdogan, Knight of the No Agenda Roundtable, also an executive producer, of course.
Last night, my family and I were driving in our car.
My wife brings up a story about Katy Perry calling out an ex-flame who, quote, happened to be sitting in the first rows at one of her concerts.
She even changed the words to the next song to incorporate his name.
My wife says, oh, what a poor guy.
My 14-year-old daughter Grace pipes up and says, Mom, seriously, you don't think that was a setup?
Then I respond, Gracie, you're thinking like a no-agenda producer.
She had a big smile on her face and said, well, you made me listen to it enough.
Something must have sunk in.
I love that.
Yep, we're doing our part of corrupting the teenagers of America.
So they're not suckered by every dumb thing that comes down the pipe.
Exactly.
We are changing the face of America.
We are helping families rear their young'uns.
And I'm quite proud of that, actually.
Although, you know, when I read that note, I immediately was thinking to myself, oh, geez, you know, all the talk about hookers and blow and all the F-bombs and everything.
Well, you're the F-bomb, Pat Meister.
No, you've been known to drop an F here or there.
I do it like once a month just for effect, for actual impact.
Oh, that's right.
And it does impact us all.
Well, you always comment.
All right, so we did that.
Now, what was next on your agenda?
Well, then the next thing on the agenda...
Your agenda.
Yes.
Did I lose you already?
Oh, blow me.
Jeez Louise.
Hold on, hold on.
John, John, John, John, John.
Hold on a second.
Hold on.
You dropped out for a second.
Okay.
What's next on your agenda?
You've got to start over.
On the agenda.
Yes, the agenda.
Your agenda.
On my agenda.
Mm-hmm.
That note reminded me of this article because somebody sent in actually breathless.
Oh, do you think that Chavez is like starting a nuke program down in Venezuela?
Yeah.
Because of this article.
And this article is a piece of propaganda that is an indictment of a couple that apparently were passing nuclear weapons data to someone they believe to be...
And it's always from Los Alamos National Laboratory.
I mean, that thing is like a sieve.
Don't we know this by now?
Well, either that or these people may have been...
They may have been moles, for all we know, and they've been pulled out.
This is the methodology.
I mean, I'm still wondering, where's that Fort Hood shooter?
What did they do with him?
Don't worry.
I haven't heard anything.
He's hanging out with Ken Lay in Paraguay.
So they structure.
Now, the Washington Times, we now have to assume, and I didn't have enough time to go into the works of Jerry Sepper, the Washington Times writer.
I'll do that while you're talking.
Do that while we're talking.
They write up this piece, which has all the disclaimers in it, but they're all deep in the article.
If you realize that most people, when they read newspaper articles, they tend to just look at the headline and maybe look at the first paragraph.
So the first paragraph on this headline, couple indicted in nuclear weapons case.
A former scientist at the Los Alamos National Laboratory in New Mexico and his wife have been indicted by a federal grand jury on charges of communicating classified nuclear weapons data to a person they believe to be a Venezuelan government official.
conspiring to participate in the development of an atomic weapon for Venezuela.
The Justice Department said on Friday.
He can't even keep his oil depots from blowing up from lightning strikes.
He's going to build no nuclear weapon.
Well, so the whole thing makes it sound...
Oh, my God!
So two things come to mind.
One is Chavez is working on a bomb.
Or, wait, you can't not associate Chavez, because we've already done it, with that idiot in Iran...
I think it even says it somewhere, doesn't it, in the article?
Like his new friend?
Maybe.
It might have been.
Whatever the case was, this is an associative article.
So you put this out there and it puts into the...
This is how people believe that Iraq somehow is involved in 9-11.
These kinds of articles.
It's funny, John, because Colin Powell was on Meet the Press this morning.
And when they roll that guy out, it's time to communicate something.
The lies are gumming again.
And of course we know Colin Powell was the liar who stood there with the yellow cake.
Liar, liar, liar.
Have you ever seen that sign in Ron Bloom's office from Colin Powell?
Have you ever read that?
No.
Because he went to some Kleiner Perkins thing and Colin Powell, who was, I think, a limited partner to Kleiner Perkins.
Yeah, he's a limited partner.
And...
And he signed it for Ron, and I can't remember it verbatim, but it's something like a quote saying, you know, you were part of the team, and even if you disagree with the mission, you still have to be a part of the team.
Something like, you know, to that matter.
I'm like, oh my god, that's exactly what he did.
He was a part of the team to go, you know, to go...
He's a team player.
He's a team player.
That's right.
Team player.
Liar.
So anyway, the article goes on.
It mentions very carefully that later in the article it says, by the way, Venezuela is just used as a stooge.
We don't know anything.
If they're doing anything at all whatsoever.
But it's buried.
Yeah.
And then it gets back into the story about how they taped these conversations.
Mr.
Mascaroni discussed his program for developing...
Mascaroni.
Mascaroni, I know.
It's...
It's what it is.
Now click on the link for the author and tell me this guy isn't the largest you've ever seen.
Look at him with his sunglasses.
This is funny.
Click on his name.
I'm clicking.
You look at this guy.
It's like...
This guy looks like he just got out of the CIA. Working in the Ecuador department.
Jerry Sieper.
I've got to put that in the chat room.
They'll get a kick out of that one.
That's funny.
Here's his articles.
Mexicans with gang ties arrested in California.
These are the people who write for the Washington Times.
Justice IG probing black pants.
He's wearing a Hawaii shirt.
Look at it.
Yeah.
Yeah, so this guy looks, you know, a couple more years, I'll look like this guy.
What do you mean, a couple more years?
Hey!
A lot of gang stuff.
Drugs, gangs, all kinds of DEA stuff.
It's Jerry's beat.
Jerry is beat.
So anyway, so it goes on and the whole thing makes it sound like something's going on.
There's nothing going on.
The whole thing's a scam.
I think the guy just had to, you know, was like, could you please fill up 700 words?
No, this thing was set up to make us be suspicious.
We're going after Chavez.
Well, of course we are.
We've been going after him.
If you read the Confessions of an Economic Hitman, Chavez is prominently mentioned as one of the guys we tried to kill and didn't.
Well, you know, I'm quite sure that this whole Netherlands Antilles turning into basically a full-on municipality of the Netherlands on 10-10-10 has something to do with it.
Because then it's going to be Gitmo Lowlands.
It's going to be the Netherlands.
No longer Netherlands Antilles.
It's just the Netherlands.
It'll be Goudaland.
And he's got his oil there.
So it's all a part of it.
They are closing in, for sure.
And he says it.
Chavez is saying it.
This is no good.
Crapola.
You know what's really good, though, is he's got that Polar beer.
He's got some awesome beer, I have to say it.
So don't blow up that factory, guys.
We like the beer.
Polar beer.
You've had it?
The way they pronounce it is Polar.
Polar, you've had it?
Yeah, oh yeah, we drank it.
Oh, you had it in the Antilles.
Yeah, in Bonaire.
Oh, it's really good beer.
It's really nice.
If you drink it right out of the bottle, it's awesome.
But it has a polar bear on it, so of course it's polar, but you pronounce it Polar.
Locally.
So anyway, this article, we'll put it in the show notes, but this article is such a crock.
I mean, it's such an obvious, planted article to get us to think bad things about Venezuela when Venezuela's not working on anything.
No.
Yeah, they're making beer!
That's all they're doing.
Well, they're trying to, and putting on TV shows with that crazy Chavez as the host.
Yeah, hello, Presidente.
But should you see Jerry Sieper anywhere, give him a douchebag from Adam and John.
You may not recognize him because of his glasses.
He's incognito.
I love that picture.
He's a douchebag.
Alright, John.
Did we see any support from our producers out there this week?
Yeah.
Oh, that doesn't sound very promising.
I clicked on Seeper's first article written for the place in like 2008 and it has to do with Clinton's vanishing papers anyway.
Yeah, we got three executive producers.
Oh, that's nice.
Including Norman McDonough.
McDonough, I think is how you pronounce it.
McDonough.
McDonough?
It could be McDonough.
Kitchener, Ontario, $350 one-time credited donation.
Paul Couture, again, from the latest...
Hello, Sir Paul.
Sir Paul, sorry.
Antioch, Tennessee, 33333.
And by the way, I did get my coins.
They're fantastic.
Aren't they just the most beautiful things in the world?
Yeah, no, they're just fantastic.
You couldn't ask for a better coin.
No.
Well, we'll talk about it in a moment.
Paul is really an artist more than anything else, and so he essentially, I mean, the design is perfect.
You couldn't do a better job.
I got a note from Paul.
He's also like, isn't he a Drupal guy or PHP guy?
Drupal.
So he presented the No Agenda Art Generator, which is at noagendaartgenerator.info, a Drupal camp in Asheville.
He says in his note, had about 78 new people being hit in the mouth, including three that mentioned they knew the formula.
125 coins left for the 10-10-10 coin, so you better hurry up if you want to get in on that one.
Go to noagendafans.com.
You know, locally they call Asheville She-ville.
And you can go to sheville.com and see the reason why.
And when you visit Asheville, you understand it.
Isn't that a tranny site?
No, Asheville, North Carolina is populated hugely by women of the women persuasion.
Oh, really?
Of the women of the female persuasion?
Do you have a problem saying lesbians or homosexuals?
I refuse.
Jeffrey Yang...
Flushing, New York, 33333, and he becomes a knight, so he'll be Sir Jeffrey after the show.
Is that how you pronounce it?
It looks like GFA. It's what it looks like, but if you look at his note...
Oh, you're right, Jeffrey.
I'm sorry.
You're right.
Really, to want to squeeze into the Sunday show, blah, blah, blah.
He's got an interview for a job on Monday.
Next time he...
I was just complaining to him that he got his thing in late.
Rick Zanotti.
And those are our executive producers.
Rick Zanotti, Camarillo, California.
Camarillo, Brillo.
$250 in the morning till you love the show.
John and Adam in the world of darkness should give light.
If you could mention a new app that we did, it would be great.
It's a fun, simple app called Your Inner Master.
Yeah, cool.
I gotta check that one out.
It's owned by the NSA. And it's fun.
What?
It's owned by the NSA? Wait a minute.
Sirius Goofy and has one no agenda line in it.
There are 105 responses, so you have to play with it.
And then he has a bit.ly link, which is impossible to read.
In a couple of weeks, we're releasing a Sirius meditation app, something Adam needs.
What is that supposed to mean?
Yeah.
He will spend more money then.
Hold on a second.
Let me check out...
If it's reviewable, I'll do it on the Big App Show, obviously.
That's what we're here for.
So I would assume it's an iPhone app.
Well, it doesn't matter because I'm doing Android apps pretty soon.
Oh, good.
End of the month, I hope.
Lucas Hokanson.
He's a familiar supporter.
Selkirk, Manitoba, Canada.
227.85.
This 227.85 will finish off my knighthood.
Hope got it in on time.
He got it in on time for the last Thursday's show.
So he's going to be our knight again.
And Rory Stone, Rapid City, South Dakota...
He's 23 years old, living between Billings, Montana, and Rapid City, South Dakota, which also is the middle of nowhere, 94537.
I listen to No Agenda to an absurd amount with sometimes 10-plus hours driving some weeks.
Whoa.
There you go.
I would appreciate a small plug for the RoryStone.com site, R-O-R-Y-Stone.com.
Eric East deserves another de-douching.
Mmm.
De-douching, de-douching, de-douching.
You've been de-douched.
There goes again.
But you want some complexity here that we can't accomplish.
This is due to the fact that my buddy Eric, because has been...
Rory, next time, make these sentences instead of just one series of words.
He's been accepted to the SDSMNT, South Dakota Southern Methodist and Technical School Biomedical Engineering Master's Program.
Good on you.
But he never donated, so give him a douchebag.
Shut up.
Douchebag.
I don't know what that's all about.
And by the way, Roy, it will be a night today.
Michael Hager, St. Louis, Missouri, $200.
Loves the show.
All right, that's it.
PR mentions, Mark LaKenna says, Hey, I just got my challenge coins from NoAgendaFans.com the other day.
Came up with a new idea.
My coin is number 371.
I'm going to play the Connecticut Daily Number Lottery with that number for a month.
John, this is really weird.
Where's that coming from?
What?
Oh wait, it's coming from my mic.
What the hell?
Yeah, this is weird.
Hey, what the hell?
It's because that little bug that they put in the mic is now bumping up against the diaphragm.
It's really weird.
Listen to that.
Do you hear it?
No.
Hold on a second.
How is that happening?
What sound is it making?
You don't hear that?
No.
Be quiet for a second.
You don't hear that?
No!
That is the weirdest thing, man.
Ask the chat room if they hear anything.
Well, if you pound the mic, I can hear that.
I have a feeling that maybe we're having tremors or something.
Because I have a stone floor.
Delirium tremors?
Shut up.
That is the weirdest thing.
You think the place is vibrating?
Maybe you could be sliding down the hill in a second.
Hey, I'm surfing!
I'm goofy down the hill now!
I don't know what's going on.
Don't worry about it.
If it cuts out, then you know what's going on.
Anyway, I'm going to play the Connecticut Daily Number Lottery with that number for a month.
John, this is weird.
Krull KJ. I don't know what to do about this.
This is...
Well, it's only bothering you, apparently.
No, the chat room hears it.
Oh, they do?
Well, what are they hearing?
What does it sound like?
Can you describe this?
It's like...
Oh.
Well, it's...
Maybe it's...
Yeah, no, don't even say it.
Don't even say it.
All right, well, Mark, good luck with that, as John actually replied to your email.
Yeah, good luck with that.
And then, you know, we often...
That wasn't the tone I had.
Yeah, it was pretty much the tone you had.
That's because email does not adequately give tonal indication with any accuracy.
Here, let me try this.
Ooh!
Oh, that changed something, yeah.
Hold on a second.
Maybe your mic's a piece of crap.
Well, it's a pile PR-40.
It's a pile of crap, then.
It's a PR pile of crap.
Okay, there we go.
You're on a 40?
Yeah, I'm on a PR-40.
It doesn't sound bassy enough.
It doesn't?
No, I think it...
You know what?
I don't care what you think.
You know how we often...
Think or suspect that writers in Hollywood listen to this show?
You suspect it more than I do.
Well, come on.
At the Jon Stewart show, we know at least there's one writer listening to us there.
Yeah.
Because all of a sudden, they come up with Hot Pockets.
Yeah, right.
Come on, please.
I actually know one of the writers there.
Well, maybe there's a connection.
But I think there's also a connection at the producers of SpongeBob SquarePants.
Because there's this bit...
Who sent this in to me?
Bruce Bibau.
And I guess this aired just yesterday.
So it's the brand new episode called Not Normal.
SpongeBob wants to become normal, so he watches a videotape about how to become normal.
Now, this already fits in with the entire No Agenda theme of the show.
At the end of the how-to, well, listen for yourself.
How to be normal.
Hmm.
This videotape should help.
Are you tired of being called a freak?
Do people throw you out of their homes?
Well, do they?
Yes, yes, and yes.
Then join me as I take you on a journey into normality.
The life of a normal person is relatively simple.
Here is your typical average Joe on his way to work.
See how he is dressed.
Even his hair is boring.
Notice his features, nice and smooth, without a crater or freckle to be seen.
Crater and freckles?
In his office space, Mr.
Normal, at least that's what it says on his name tag, works at a steady and monotonous pace, just as all the other normals do.
Take note of how they communicate with each other.
Hi, how are you?
At the end of the day, Mr.
Normal packs his things and goes home to merrily start the cycle again in the morning.
I don't know.
Now, of course, the chat room is saying it apparently is a really old episode.
So maybe I'm just wrong.
That's all right.
We can be wrong from time to time.
Sounded like a Spongebob.
That's what I said.
Spongebob Square.
Spongebob hasn't produced a new show for about five years before.
I think they haven't produced the show since we began.
I'm glad I brought it up.
Anyway, thank you.
Thanks to our executive producers for today's program.
Norman McDonough, Sir Paul Couture, Jeffrey Yang, associate executive producers Rick Zanotti, Lucas Hockeson, Rory Stone, and Michael Hager.
As you know, this is an official credit.
You can put it in your email, on your business card, on your resume.
Just like a Hollywood credit, it can even go into your IMDB profile.
Unlike a Hollywood credit, you can always call us up and we'll vouch for you because it works exactly the way it works in the real world.
You pay for something, you help the show, you are producer, executive or associate executive.
All the rest of you go out and propagate the formula.
Our formula is this.
We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
New!
World!
Order, fight it and say it loudly.
Shut up, slaves!
On Thursday's show, John, you had this very kind of tedious analysis of...
What was it?
What's her name?
I don't remember.
Crazy Catholic chick, Christine O'Donnell.
Yeah.
It's getting better.
Yeah, well, I figured it out, I think.
Okay.
So, Christine O'Donnell, of course, was...
She grew up in...
New Jersey, I think, right?
Yeah, yeah.
And it was...
What was I watching?
Bill Maher.
I don't know if it was a repeat or whatever.
I can't watch the guy's show.
But we passed by it last night.
And Bill Maher apparently had her on his show when it was politically incorrect.
Yeah, years ago.
1999, as a matter of fact.
And then she tells the story about her first date was actually a date with a witch.
And the date took place at a satanic altar, which is kind of weird.
The Mail Online actually has a rundown of this particular...
And she looks kind of cute as a young Jersey girl.
And she was very promiscuous.
A Catholic high school girl in trouble, essentially, is what she is.
Okay.
And I'm looking at this, I'm reading about her, and I'm like, you know, what is going on here?
And by the way, she has a huge ass.
And if you ever see her in profile, my God, the ass is like, there's like a bootay sticking out.
Not that it makes any difference.
But then all of a sudden, I'm seeing her.
I'm seeing Sarah Palin, and it hits me.
It's so obvious.
These are MKUltra.
They are MKUltra girls.
Now, if you don't know what MKUltra is, please Google...
Well, this is that second half of the show.
You keep doing this every week.
But this...
MKUltra and Project Monarch are well known.
They've been admitted by the CIA. You know, even Clinton has...
He's too young.
Even...
Who says they stopped the program?
And in fact, they have something known as the presidential model, which is, so essentially it's an MKUltra slave that is clean and can be used for sex with important people like presidents.
They call it the presidential model.
How funny is that that Sarah Palin actually ran on a presidential ticket?
She is a presidential model.
And she is.
She's clean, pristine.
And this girl, it's clear.
This is N.K. Ultra to the max.
No doubt about it.
Google that stuff.
A couple links in the show notes.
And when you put it together with the promiscuous sex, with the satanic altar on her first date, with witchcraft, she even says, oh yeah, there was a little bit of blood there.
I mean, come on.
I mean, come on.
It's so obvious.
These are mind-controlled drones that are being put into politics.
She hasn't...
No, she's never had a job in her life, by the way.
No, of course not.
Ron Paul's got to be at his wits ends.
Apparently he's been hinting around that these guys have been co-opted.
But everybody's so proud of themselves.
Rush Limbaugh and Hannity.
They're all so proud of themselves for getting this woman elected over this guy they think is a douchebag, Castle.
And the fact of the matter is, hey...
I don't give a crap who you put up, but put somebody at least that shows...
Is that the best you can do?
A person that's never worked a job in their life?
We spend all our time complaining about Obama having nobody with any business experience.
You're going to put a woman like that up?
But that's what makes it so perfect.
She's perfect for running the country.
She has no experience.
You could almost put it on monster.com.
Do you have no experience whatsoever?
Have you never held a real job in your life?
Do you like satanic sex?
Are you a dummy?
Are you a complete dummy?
Okay, you're in!
Congratulations!
Would you like $130,000 a year in salary?
All you have to do is look for anything attached to the Tea Party Express.
That's the group behind all this crap.
MKUltra.
You Tea Partiers, including a couple of our knights, are being duped by these people.
Yeah.
That's alright.
I think slowly we're getting through to people.
I think we are.
Hey, look, we're having influence on 14-year-old kids.
This is good.
That's probably our target audience.
This is good.
And there's another thing.
A couple weeks ago, we really didn't go anywhere with it because you kind of threw it at me and I wasn't prepared for it.
You had a whole bunch of links.
Maybe we didn't even discuss it in the show.
We had a whole bunch of links about the CIA and the ISI, Pakistan's CIA. Oh, the ISS. I'm sorry, the ISS. I'm thinking to myself, when you sum it all up, we've got black water all over Pakistan.
Hundreds of Pakistanis have been killed.
We've got drones flying over Pakistan, literally zapping people out of their homes.
I'm thinking this whole Afghanistan thing is just a smokescreen.
If you look at the top of...
Do this from time to time.
When you read about a country in the news, look at it on Google Earth.
The top of Pakistan borders on China.
And you know that, of course, our administrations have been very closely tied to China for decades.
Oh yeah, that's right, they're paying our rent.
Do you think that maybe part of what's happening, this prolonging of bullshit in Afghanistan, is really just a smokescreen to take away Pakistan's nukes, completely undermine the country, which I think is happening quite well.
Oh yeah, maybe use some weather modification to drown the fuckers.
And then the black gold can flow right through Pakistan, right from China, right through northern Pakistan.
I think that we've maybe even been duped a little bit.
The listeners out there have to assume that you and I are going to be duped as much as anybody, except that we're trying to maintain an awareness of being duped.
We're trying.
On a higher level, because we have to do this show.
Yeah, twice a week.
Twice a week.
So we try to de-dupe ourselves as much as we can.
But yeah, no, we could be, I mean, there could be another layer after that that we're missing.
But yeah, that's a possibility.
It makes sense to me.
And if you talk to, and we've had input to this effect, if you, the public in Pakistan all believes that the whole activity in the area, all of it has nothing to do with anything but getting the nukes.
That's what the man on the street in Pakistan believes.
That makes a lot.
Do we have any listeners in Pakistan?
They're just like the Indians.
They're cheap.
It's okay.
I hereby give a presidential no-agenda pardon to any listeners.
Even if you're in India and you have information about Pakistan and you're a cheap bastard, it's okay if you're a douchebag.
And by the way, it's the Indians who told us that they're cheap bastards.
We're not making it up.
Send us some information about what the man on the street really thinks.
We have nothing.
We got plenty of stuff from Australia.
We have one or two listeners in China, but we have literally nothing from Pakistan.
And you know that because it's an English-speaking country, along with their other languages, but Pakistan and India both have listeners.
There's a billion people there.
Somebody's got to be listening to our show that could give us some input.
It was just another political murder.
We're going to get a note from the ISI, some stooge.
What is the MQM? What is the MQM? Is that a political party?
It's ISI, not ISS, by the way.
I said ISI. You said ISS. I said ISS. MQM? Yeah, it's a party, I think.
Okay, so did you know that the leader, Dr.
Imran Farouk was murdered last week in London.
Stabbed near his home in the British capital.
The killing stunned the party as well as political circles and sent Karachi into a state of virtual lockdown.
Markets, schools, fuel stations remained closed on Friday as an air of dread prevailed in the metropolis.
But the violence has been minimal, and thankfully, no lives have been lost.
Yeah, except for Farouk.
I really believe that it's being split.
Look, the CIA and the ISI, they created the Taliban, for Christ's sakes.
Sorry for taking the Lord's name in vain.
No, it's true.
They created the Taliban.
You know, this is known, documented facts.
So I think this whole...
Although there's references to a Taliban in the turn of the century, 1900.
Really?
In the documentation, yeah.
I have a...
This is a news report from 2002...
So this is, and it's Dan Rather, before the media assassinated him and took him out, because, you know, he didn't play along with this.
I think he was just senile, didn't play along with the script.
He didn't mean any harm.
And this is about Bin Laden.
This is actually, it's good to remind people from time to time that Bin Laden was already on a dialysis machine in 2002.
Supposedly.
Supposedly in Pakistan.
Dan Rather reporting from CBS News Headquarters in New York.
Good evening.
As the United States and its allies in the war on terrorism press the hunt for Osama bin Laden, CBS News has exclusive information tonight about where bin Laden was and what he was doing in the last hours before his followers struck the United States September 11th.
I love listening to these old reports, and this is where the indoctrination was really cranking up, and it's fun to listen to it in hindsight, I think.
This is a result of hard-nosed investigative reporting by a team of CBS News journalists.
Uh, where's the telex?
Hard-nosed investigative reporting.
Yeah, sources say.
The CIA handed you the script here.
They put it right up.
They have a direct line into your teleprompter, Dan, rather.
And by one of the best foreign correspondents in the business, CBS's Barry Peterson.
Who's Barry Peterson?
I don't know.
He seems to have disappeared.
Barry Peterson is not hosting the news at six, so I don't know if he's the best.
Here is Peterson's exclusive report.
Everyone remembers what happened on September 11th.
Here's the story.
Perfect how they do that.
You see the towers fall down.
It's like, remember, remember, remember, remember, remember, remember, shut up, slaves.
What may have happened the night before...
It is a tale as twisted as the hunt for Osama bin Laden.
CBS News has been told that the night before the September 11th terrorist attack, Osama bin Laden was in Pakistan.
He was getting medical treatment with the support of the very military that days later pledged its backing for the U.S. war on terror in Afghanistan.
This is good, right?
This is actually good stuff, but it's programming you.
Oh yeah, it's great.
It's awesome.
Sources tell CBS News that Bin Laden was spirited into this military hospital in Rawapendi for kidney dialysis treatment.
On that night, says this medical worker who wanted her identity protected, they moved out all the regular staff in the urology department and sent in a secret team to replace them.
She says it was treatment for a very special person.
The special team was obviously up to no good.
This report is great.
It's so fantastic.
It's like, sources, hard-nosed reporting, unidentified people.
It's like, what?
Up to no good.
Secret team.
...employee who also wanted his identity masked.
And I saw the mysterious patient helped out of a car.
Since that time, he says, I have seen many pictures of the man.
He is the man we know as Osama bin Laden.
I also heard two army officers talking to each other.
They were saying that Osama bin Laden had to be watched carefully and looked after.
Those who know bin Laden say he suffers from numerous ailments.
Those who know bin Laden...
Why doesn't...
Never!
Who?
Who knows bin Laden?
Yeah, those.
I spoke to those.
I spoke to those people.
Them over there, these people.
And stomach problems.
Ahmed Rashid, who has written extensively in the Taliban, says the military was often there to help before 9-11.
There were reports that Pakistani intelligence had helped the Taliban by dialysis machines.
And the rumor was that these were wanted for Osama bin Laden.
Alright, so anyway, so you can go watch that in the show notes.
Here's a couple interesting things.
One, of course, he has stomach problems, which I think is probably true because he always looks like he has heartburn.
And he only uses his right arm.
His left arm might be paralyzed.
He never raises his left arm.
And he, but of course, you know, I think it's, we, at least I assume, I think you might be on board with me on this, that Bin Laden's always been a CIA operator.
From day one...
Yeah, and he still is, and that's why they don't capture him.
I don't think he's alive.
But it's okay, but by now we've long forgotten that.
We've long forgotten that.
But they still can't catch him, if you know what I mean.
You know, I think it was really a blunder.
You know, Bush probably got read the riot act after he went out, so we're going to get him dead or alive.
And so he's like, hey, hey, hey!
Shut up!
Stop talking about Ben Laden, will ya?
Shh!
Anyway, so I think we need to keep our eyes.
It's very hard to get true.
What the hell do we know about Pakistan?
Nothing.
Nothing.
We know nothing about it.
There's never any reporting on it, except for the hard-nosed journalism from CBS in 2002.
But what do you know about Pakistan?
Oh, there's a really good newspaper called, I think it's the Friday Report or something like that.
People should read that.
Pakistan is, you know, I don't know that much about it.
I've never been there.
They scare you to not go.
So I'm not going to obviously casually visit.
I don't think you really know a country until you visit it.
Exactly.
So we don't know anything.
I mean, it's like the first time I went to China, I was stunned.
Yeah.
Because it was like, you know, you were given all this bull crap and you go over there and it's like totally different.
Well, that's like Iran.
You know, it's beautiful.
Some parts of Iran are just astoundingly beautiful.
I was getting my hair cut yesterday.
I call him the barber.
Some people call him the hairdresser.
And he's from Iran.
And his family still lives there, but he moved over here like 25 years ago, whatever.
His kids, the whole family, everything.
And his sister's here as well.
And he's like, they're not going to bomb Iran.
We all know that.
It's all bull crap.
It's total bull crap.
It's just not true.
And I'm like, can I go visit?
He says, yeah, sure, if you can get in.
You can go stay with his family.
It's beautiful.
So I think we should go.
We should totally go.
I can get in.
I think they still allow journalists to go there.
What, you have journalists in your passport?
You can't be sneaking in.
Do you have journalists stamped in your passport?
No, but I can get that.
I don't think that's the way they do it.
It's done through a permit process.
I mean, I know I can go to Cuba.
But the problem is, how am I going to get to Cuba?
You have to go to Canada to get to Cuba.
It's not like a flight from Miami to Cuba.
We can go to Jamaica and then get on InnerTube.
You know where I'd like to go?
Where?
North Korea to drink Bordeaux to Kim Jong-il, but it seems that nobody can get the word to the guy.
No, I told you.
We had this discussion already.
Anyway, keep your eye on Pakistan.
If there's any Pakistanis listening to this show, please let us know what's happening.
John, I want to corroborate, I think it was pretty much your thesis that started it, and we started paying attention to how, well, it started kind of with Obama bashing, and now Hillary is starting to ramp up, and I think you and I both agree that it looks like Hillary is going to give up the State Department And she will run in 2012.
Obama will probably say, you know, I did my job.
I want to spend more time with my family.
So there's this website called newsflavor.com.
I have no idea who's behind it.
But it is going somewhat viral.
This piece that's like a multi-article piece started September 7th.
White House insider on Obama.
The president is losing it.
A long-time Washington, D.C. insider and former advisor to the Obama election campaign and transition team speaks out on administration in crisis and a president increasingly withdrawn from the job of the president.
And the whole article is essentially this insider, of course, who goes unnamed.
Saying, you know, he doesn't care.
He only wants to be out.
He loves being out on the road.
He loves campaigning.
But he throws hissy fits.
He's like a spoiled kid.
He only wants to watch sports.
He wants to play golf.
It's like so obvious that they're throwing out these hit pieces now to show that, you know, the guy doesn't even want to be there.
And by the way, I believe he doesn't want to be there.
Obama is scared to death of Hillary.
He doesn't trust her.
Obsesses over her almost as much as he obsesses over Fox News.
He respects her, though, which might be why he fears her so much as well.
He talks the game, but when it comes down to it, she has played the game on a far tougher level than he has, and Obama knows that.
Let me see if I can find the losing it quote.
Just kind of funny.
Is this the article that's got that pastel?
Yes, yes, that's the one.
Okay, like I said, it's been a while since I was last at the White House.
This insider apparently left about a month ago.
But I don't have a problem saying the president is losing it.
I don't mean he's, like, losing his mind, although thank you for that headline.
That's the meme that propagates.
I mean to say that he's losing whatever spark he had during the campaign.
When you take away the crowds, Obama gets noticeably smaller.
He shrinks up inside himself.
He just doesn't seem to have the confidence to do the job of president and is getting worse and worse.
Case in point, just a few days before I left, I saw firsthand the president of the United States yelling at a member of his staff.
He was yelling like a spoiled child, and then he pouted for several moments after.
I wish I was kidding or exaggerating, but I am not.
The President of the United States threw a temper tantrum.
Now, this is interesting.
I've never gotten this story reconfirmed, but I heard it.
And it came from Jason Calacanis.
The Ministry of Truth himself.
Well, of course, he's a name dropper, so you never know what the situation really is.
This was a couple of years before he even ran for president.
Apparently, he was in some situation where they were at the same dinner party or something where the Obamas were.
Of course, because Jason's always sucking off VCs, so it was probably a venture capital fundraising thing.
Or something.
Yeah.
And apparently Obama and...
I like Jason by the way.
I think for the sleazy kind of persona he is, I like the guy.
Just saying.
So, the point is that apparently both him and Michelle were extremely rude to the waitstaff.
Oh, really?
He found that it was so, he said it was so bad.
Really?
Really?
That he just has no respect for the guy because of that.
Oh my gosh.
I'm a Scientologist, so I think Michelle Obama's a big old bitch-ass femme Nazi dyke.
I don't know where that came from.
Was that Calacanis?
Yeah, that's Jason.
That's from thisweekin.com.
So...
So, anyway, but, you know, I believe that...
I don't see why you'd make a story like that up, so...
Well, I mean, I get the sense that he's kind of haughty and arrogant.
Yes.
Oh, yeah, totally.
And Michelle, apparently, there's a lot of stories coming out about her now, which is all part of this propagandistic push to get rid of them, both of them, about how she hates the...
Yeah, we talked about it yesterday.
The Daily Mail reported that she hates being the First Lady.
And according to this article, they have their issues.
They have their issues as a couple.
Well, our couples have their issues.
Oh, yeah.
Well, except for you.
Not anymore.
I have no issues.
I'm issueless.
Everything's great.
So anyway, this is a concerted effort to get him.
I don't know why.
I mean, as far as I can tell, I don't see how anyone could be doing a better job than he is doing, except for the fact that he's a stooge.
Yeah.
What's Hillary going to do?
She's going to pass the same legislation and the same...
God help us if she becomes president.
God help us.
God help us.
I'd rather have Christine O'Donnell.
Yeah, because at least you know she's loose.
You know who she looks like?
And why they ran her, I'm convinced of it.
She looks...
Think about this, people out there.
She looks like Rachel Ray.
With a big ass.
Well, Rachel, have you seen her recently?
Rachel Ray is exactly what she looks like.
Interesting.
America's sweetheart.
I'm telling you, MKUltra.
Just flip that switch over here, baby.
Throw that bitch in my hot tub.
I'm ready for her.
Anyway, John, on to the Ministry of Truth.
Since we're talking about women, I'd like to speak up on behalf of women, since I usually sound so chauvinistically piggish.
Unbelievable article coming from the Times of India.
Uh, millions of women now could be freed from the monthly misery of premenstrual syndrome.
John, we found the miracle cure!
Do you know what it is?
The cure for the curse.
The cure for the curse.
That should have been the title.
Do you know what it is, John?
It's very simple.
I can't believe you and I didn't think of it.
Go out and hit people in the mouth.
No, all you have to do is give them a low dose of Prozac.
Yeah!
For the first time, neuroscientists have found an organic cause Talk
about abhorrent.
You can just wait for the commercial.
Are you feeling a little depressed?
Are you feeling irritable?
Have some Prozac once in a month.
If the Prozac doesn't work, then you can go one step further and add to the prescription with Ambien.
So I've got two commercials, since we're talking about drugs, in a row.
One for Ambien and one for some other crazy thing.
And I want to play them back-to-back.
We can make a little commentary in the middle.
Oh, this is the drug survey?
I had that clip, too.
No, not the drug survey.
I want to play the Ambien commercial.
I only have...
Abilify, I'm sorry.
Abilify, yes.
Abilify.
And then?
This is the new Abilify commercial.
It's $1.15.
It's $1.15.
And then a one-minute and 30-second commercial I want to follow with called Seroquel XR, which is a drug for bipolar.
Ooh!
So we play them back-to-back without interruption, John.
It's a double shot.
It's a double shot of drug commercials for you, everybody.
Okay, then we're going to do that.
Let's do it.
Back-to-back without interruption.
But here's what I want you to listen for.
Listen for the contraindications, the things that can happen to you.
This has got to be the exact same drug.
Okay, this is a comparison study.
Correct?
Yep.
Okay, here we go.
Learn about a free trial offer from Abilify.
If you're taking an antidepressant and still feel depressed, one option your doctor may consider is adding Abilify.
Abilify treats depression in adults when added to an antidepressant.
Some people had symptom improvement in as early as one to two weeks after adding Abilify.
Now with the Abilify Me Plus program, your first two weeks of Abilify can be free.
Abilify is not for everyone.
Call your doctor if your depression worsens or you have unusual changes in behavior or thoughts of suicide.
Antidepressants can increase these in children, teens, and young adults.
Elderly dementia patients taking Abilify have an increased risk of death or stroke.
Call your doctor if you have high fever, stiff muscles, and confusion to address a possible life-threatening condition.
Confusion.
Or if you have uncontrollable muscle movements, as these could become permanent.
We're reported with Abilify in medicines like it.
In some cases, extreme high blood sugar can lead to coma or death.
Other risks include decreases in white blood cells, which can be serious, dizziness upon standing, seizures, trouble swallowing, and impaired judgment or motor skills.
Adding Abilify has made a difference for me.
Visit AbilifyOffer.com for your free trial offer and ask your doctor about the risks and benefits of adding Abilify.
When you're living with bipolar depression, it's easy to feel like you're fading into the background.
That's because bipolar depression doesn't just affect you, it can consume you.
Seroquel XR is one option proven effective to treat bipolar depression.
For many, it's one pill once a day.
Here's some important safety information you should be aware of.
Call your doctor if you have unusual changes in mood, behavior, or thoughts of suicide.
Antidepressants can increase these in children, teens, and young adults.
Elderly dementia patients taking Seroquel XR have an increased risk of death.
Call your doctor if you have fever, stiff muscles, and confusion, as these may be signs of a life-threatening reaction, or if you have uncontrollable muscle movements, as these could become permanent.
High blood sugar has been reported with Seroquel XR and medicines like it, and in extreme cases can lead to coma or death.
Your doctor should check for cataracts.
Other risks include decreases in white blood cells, which can be fatal.
Seizures, increased cholesterol, weight gain, dizziness on standing, drowsiness, impaired judgment, and trouble swallowing.
Use caution before driving or operating machinery.
Learn more about bipolar depression and questions to ask your doctor at SeroquelXR.com.
Bipolar depression doesn't have to consume you.
Take this step today and ask your doctor whether SeroquelXR is right for you.
If you can't afford your medication, AstraZeneca may be able to help.
You know, I think I'm going to give up the DMT and start taking this crap.
This sounds a lot better.
I can die from this.
This is the, I'm telling you, the contraindications are identical.
With the exception of cataracts.
That's the only exception, and that could also be the case with the other drug, for all we know.
So in other words, what they're doing to people who take Prozac and Zoloft and all the rest of them, they're trying to get a new version of squalene in it.
It just amplifies.
It's like an amplifier.
It makes the drug work better.
Well, the way I'm seeing it, that's not even what they're doing.
What they're doing is giving people a drug for bipolar disorder.
You have mild depression, the next thing you know, they put you on what's essentially a drug for bipolar people.
This can't be good.
This is fantastic!
This is why all these zombie movies, it's all a metaphor for where we're headed.
And we might as well roll out that Kids with Depression survey while we're at it, because we both saw this and went, oh, brother, this is just outrageous.
And actually, I went to the survey.
Listen to this for a second.
Childhood depression is often in hiding.
If your child is between the ages of 7 and 11 and experiences frequent sadness, social isolation, or an increase in anger or difficulty in school, then your child may be struggling with depression and eligible to participate in a clinical research study evaluating an investigational medication for children with depression.
All study-related medications will be provided at no cost.
Call 866-754-6244 or visit kidswithdepression.com.
So I go to kidswithdepression.com.
Childhood and teenage depression is often in hiding.
So they go through this whole thing.
If your child has been displaying one or more of these signs of...
By the way, these are signs of depression.
It says it right here.
For at least two weeks...
And they are interfering with his or her ability to function, then he or she may be depressed and eligible to take part in this survey.
Here we go.
Frequent sadness or crying.
Kids depressed.
Decreased interest in activity.
Depressed kid.
Persistent boredom.
Jesus Christ.
I'm sorry.
I did it again.
Mom, I'm bored.
You're depressed.
I have never run into a kid who is bored.
Social isolation.
Low self-esteem and guilt.
Extreme sensitivity to rejection or failure.
Hello!
Increased irritability, anger, or hostility.
Frequent absences from school or poor performance in school.
Let me go right back to my hairdresser.
He sends his kids to a private kindergarten in the Valley.
$25,000 a year.
And they called him up.
They said, yeah, we really need to have a meeting about your son.
On Friday, right?
I saw him yesterday.
Who called him?
Lundberg?
No, that's exactly what it sounds like.
We have to have a meeting.
And so he's like, okay, well, you know, I'm really busy, but, you know, I can do Monday or Tuesday.
And then he hangs up.
And then he's like, well, what the crap?
And he calls back.
He says, hey, you know, wait a minute.
First of all, I'm paying you guys $25,000 a year.
What's going on?
I mean, why do we have to have a meeting?
What's happened?
Well, he's constantly drawing pictures of Star Wars, and we have some concerns.
I'm like, what?
I'm like, Sean, dude, they're going to try and put your kid on Ritalin or some crap like that.
They're going to have Child Protective Services come to your house, man.
Pull the kid out of that school immediately.
This is messed up.
You have to have a meeting about your kid drawing Star Wars.
Yeah, it's a little violent.
Anyway, so this is horrible, horrible, horrible.
Does your kid have poor concentration?
Crikey!
A major change in eating and or sleeping patterns.
Talk of or efforts to run away from home.
Dude, I ran away from home at least ten times!
Okay, so anyway, does this study look right for your child?
Click yes to continue.
Okay, I'm clicking yes.
And we go to the next page here.
Thank you for your interest.
Would you like to continue?
Okay, blah, blah, blah.
Yes, now here comes the part I like the most.
How did you hear about the study?
Media type.
So we have doctor, family friend, internet, newspaper, other, or TV. So I'm going to select TV, and then I get another drop-down menu.
Oh, my goodness.
These guys are advertising.
4 p.m.
News, 5.30 News, 5 p.m.
News, ABC Family, Access Hollywood, AM Northwest, Animal Planet, Atreve Asonar, Bonnie Hunt.
Hey, do your own market research, boneheads.
CBS Early Show, Corazones, Court Rotation, Days of Our Lives, Daytime Rotation, Dr.
Oz, Dr.
Phil, Early Show, Ellen, Extra, Family Feud, Fox News, Fox Wake Up, FX, GMA, Good Company, Good Day Extra, Good Day Philadelphia, Good Morning America, Gossip Queen, Hallmark, Inside Edition, Insider, Jeopardy, Jerry Springer, Judge Alex, Judge Hatchet, Judge Joe, Judge Joe Brown, Judge Judy, Judge Matisse, Judge Pirro, L.A. I mean, it just goes on and on.
These are where they're advertising.
Because this is the pharmaceutical industry.
Yeah, and look at these shows.
All those stupid judge shows.
All this lame material.
Jerry Springer.
I wonder if it has NPR or PBS on here.
That would be pretty funny, wouldn't it?
I should have looked at that.
Do we know...
Let me see.
What other...
If we select newspaper...
Oh, they didn't do a lot of newspaper advertising.
Internets.
Let's see.
Oh, nothing.
Just internet is nothing.
Family friend.
Doctor.
No.
Okay, so I don't see any PBS sponsorships here.
But look at that list, man.
That's just amazing, isn't it?
Oprah.
Perry Mason.
Jeez.
TNT. Today Show.
Today Show Florida.
Tormenta en el Paraiso.
Wendy Williams, Young and the Restless.
I mean, this is the pharmaceutical industry telling you your kid needs drugs.
And it's rampant.
And this thing that scares me is like Sean with his kid in the kindergarten.
And they're like, oh, we have to have a meeting because he's really showing some troubling...
You know, we took the survey.
And he's showing some really troublesome behavior.
Drawing Star Wars.
He seems to be very barred.
So I think, you know, we have a program we can put them on.
It's really good.
All the other kids are on it.
Just making them into moron, moronic zombies.
Yeah, but that way they're controllable in the classroom, and it's like a run around.
I mean, when I was a kid, they made you take a nap.
No, John, you put your kids on a leash, let's be honest.
They were so whacked out, but you made a better choice than putting them on drugs.
I mean, I agree.
It was only on a leash in an airport.
Anyway, so the point is, when I was a kid, they gave us a pint of milk.
Which is notorious for having, you know, things drop.
Yeah, and a smack around the ears.
Shut up, kids!
You get a tiny milk and you had to take a nap.
That's right.
Or you had to go sit in the corner or you needed some quiet time.
And I think that nap actually continued until about the third grade.
They don't take naps anymore?
I don't think they take naps at all.
We always had quiet time.
They always try to get the kids on some drug, Ritalin, so they sit there like zombies, and so you can collect the money from the state, and then you can send them home on their way where the parents go, wow, these well-behaved now.
Yeah.
Oh, they'll be a nice, good little slave.
It's like Soma.
You can tell I read Brave New World by now.
Finally.
Yeah, Soma.
S-O-M-A. Soma.
That's what it is.
All these antidepressants, it's all Soma.
Aldous Huxley.
Read that one.
I find the whole thing distressing.
Yes, it's extremely distressing.
I'm glad you straightened out your hairdresser.
Well, he was already kind of there, and I said, dude, are you out of your mind?
He says, you know, you're so right.
I'm paying these people, and they're supposed to be like being part of the education, and now they're going to like...
Not only that, but they should exploit the kid and make him draw more and more and more.
Yeah, it could be the next George Lucas.
What's your problem?
The kid's six years old.
We have to have a meeting.
It's really problematic.
He's showing some very passive-aggressive tendencies.
Well, I'm calling him on Tuesday.
I want to find out how that meeting went.
But I told him, I said, be very careful because the next thing you know, they're going to say, do you have guns in the house?
You watch.
You watch.
They're going to ask these questions.
It's nuts.
They ask this when your kid is born in the hospital.
They have a whole list of questions.
And you're like, you just had a kid.
So you're like, whatever, I'll answer any question.
But that's on the list of questions I have been told.
Do you have guns in the house?
Hey, John, why don't we take a look at the list of people who have been so nice to support this program since...
Actually, I had a couple things before we get to the donations.
I had one more ad that we could run, too, just to...
Oh, let's do one more ad, and then we'll get to the supports.
This is kind of an ad that I've seen it a couple times and I always forget what it's about until they get to the end.
But I think it brings up a new meme.
You know how we talk about big pharma and big, you know, big organic, which would be Whole Earth Foods.
And so now you just drop the word big in front of something and that makes it evil.
Play the Black Widow ad.
The Black Widow spider's severe bite can cause coma and even death.
The African black mamba can kill a man with one bite.
But there's an even deadlier predator.
Cigarettes produced by Big Tobacco, which take a life every 6.5 seconds.
Don't be Big Tobacco's next victim.
That means you.
Yeah, who produced this?
Is it the Ad Council?
You know, I'm trying to think who it was.
It had a little mention at the bottom.
It's a terrible ad.
Well, there's a couple of things that come out along with Big Tobacco Meme.
So New York City is going to ban smoking outdoors, and it gets better.
They're now testing the, or I guess throwing up trial balloons, according to the New York Times.
They want fellow citizens to report you.
And this is all fine, okay?
And thank you for bringing this up, because that's why I said I'm still allowed to smoke here in the Hilltop Watchtower Crackpot Command Center.
But they are going to ban smoking.
New York City, which is, like, yeah, the air in New York City is great.
Like, the smoking on the street is going to hurt you any.
But now they're going to have your fellow citizens, your fellow slaves, report on you.
And this is all fine and dandy, and you can all say, oh, that's great, you stupid smokers.
You're killing yourself.
You're killing me.
Your alcohol is next, and your vitamins are next, and everything, they're going to take it all away from you, you stupid slave.
But what are you going to be taking?
You're going to be taking Abilify.
You're going to be taking Seroquel, and all this groovy stuff.
That's where it's going to be shoved down your throat, and it starts with your kids at six years old.
So go ahead and laugh, and like, Oh, good, we're taking away your smoke, you stupid smokers.
You're killing yourself, killing everybody else.
But they're coming for you next.
And there'll be no one left to defend you.
Stupid slaves.
I got the biggest kick watching a talk show a few months ago with Jessica Simpson.
Yeah.
She came on and she says she was never a smoker, but somebody turned her on to these nicotine patches.
Yeah, without even being a smoker.
Yeah, and she says it's great.
It's wasted on these patches.
And meanwhile, you've got the e-cigarette, which there's like six manufacturers now banned by the FDA. You know, because it's dispensing nicotine.
It's a drug.
We gotta regulate that.
You can't have that, slave.
You gotta smoke.
We're going crazy.
Next thing you know, it's boxcars to Auschwitz.
Yeah.
Yeah, and I'm not even laughing about that because we're really getting there.
But it's okay.
Go ahead and laugh and just make your jokes about people smoking cigarettes because they're coming for you.
Whatever it is you like, except for the aspartame gum.
Chew on that.
Have lots of aspartame gum.
That's really good for you.
With aspartame seeping down your esophagus into the pit of your stomach, burning away, giving you cancer.
Through the week, there was lots of anti-alcohol memes all over the news.
And in fact, it even shows up in that drug survey, which we'll talk about after we go through the...
I had something about the demon drink.
Yeah, we'll do it after.
Yeah, it's too long.
Okay, so I did want to say, before we get into it, we have this 10-10-10 donation drive.
That we're on.
And, of course, 10-10-10 is binary for 42.
And according to the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Universe, 42 is the answer to the ultimate question of life, the universe, and everything.
What shows up in the Daily Mail?
And this really blew me...
I'm sorry, the Independent.
Yes, the answer to the universe really is 42.
I was like, oh, okay.
Cambridge astronomers have found that 42 is the value of an essential scientific constant, one which determines the age of the universe.
And there's this whole article about how they're really corroborating something that Douglas Adams made up.
So he says, we can't check it with him anymore.
He may have been given the information by someone.
But the scientists are now actually saying, yes, 42 really is...
It's an important number in the universe.
Yeah, well, there we go.
That's why we're getting a $42 donation.
For super karma, absolutely.
Okay, who do we need to thank?
John Reynolds in the Soviet Republic of Berkeley, California.
94.42.
He's going to give a...
We have a birthday call out and...
And he needs a de-douching, John does.
Okay.
You've been de-douched.
Good to go.
And by the way, people, when you see me on the street, please don't ask me for a de-douching in person.
I just can't do that.
I can't be doing that for you.
Sorry, just on a side note.
Okay, next.
Now we've got Keith Johnson, and of course I closed my...
Your spreadsheet?
Because he's got a note that he sent me.
So let me get back to that.
Who was it?
Keith?
Yeah, but the note is sent to me from D-R-A-L dot K-J. Hi, John and Adam.
Please credit me as...
There you go.
Okay.
You got it?
No, wait a minute.
That's the next person.
No, I don't.
I don't have the note.
But don't say the next name because it's supposed to be credited to someone else.
Read the note for the next one.
All right, next name.
Vienna.
Vienna, Austria.
Hi, John and Adam.
Please credit me as Raphael Schlagerl.
Schagerl.
Yeah, that's what I said.
It says, nobody calls me Ulrich anymore.
This Haiku donation, 575.
He gives us 5750.
I would like to get my father, Paul Shawgirl, a birthday shout.
I would do that in a minute.
Well, how come that's not on the list?
Eric.
Eric missed it.
He's turning 64 on September 19th.
I would be forever grateful if the No Agenda listeners could leave him a couple of nice birthday wishes in the comments on his blog at thequakewatcher.com.
Hey!
The Quake Watcher?
This is something you should be following.
He's a colleague.
He's a Quake guy.
You guys rock.
Quakewatcher.com.
Okay, nice.
I will do the birthday thing in a second.
Ricky Pierce, Sydney, New South Wales, $50 a nighthood thing.
Larry Corpy, still hanging in there from Helsinki.
Jeffrey Smith, Alpena, Michigan, $50.
No agenda and proof of good karma.
John and Adam, I recently donated $42 for 10-10-10.
Thanks for the birthday mention on the show.
I'll be 35 and then signed up for the $5 a month plan a couple of days later.
I had done some computer work for a friend who thanked me by paying me extra.
There's the karma.
There's the karma at work.
Extra cash to keep up the good karma flowing.
Alan Ritchie, Moreno Valley, California, $50 one-time donation.
Scott Ritchie, sorry for the small amount, but I am poor.
And let me remind people out there, you're not poor.
Poor is the state of mind.
Broke is the situation.
You're broke, not poor ever.
Thanks.
That's some wise words.
Yeah, from George Hamilton III. Oh, really?
Yeah, that's where I got that.
All right, John Reynolds says happy birthday to his brother Henry J.
Joanne Thompson is making a happy birthday and a call out to her son, John Thompson.
Well, we encourage calling members of your family, particularly your spawn, douchebags.
And Raphael Shegirl...
Who no one calls Uruk anymore.
Wants to say happy birthday to his dad.
Paul Shegirl.
A birthday shout out from your friends here at Noah Gemma.
And did we do Chris?
Did we do Chris?
We have to do Chris.
You didn't do Chris, did ya?
No, do Chris.
Okay, so Chris, this is a make good.
He gave $55.10 a few shows ago, but his PayPal message got dropped.
I want to let you know about my site, supportnoagenda.com, where you can get to a bunch of ways to support the show.
Great.
Also, Steve in Detroit is still a douchebag.
Douchebag!
Yeah, I've heard about Steve in Detroit.
Total douche.
Yeah, I have too.
So here's the note from our friend Keith Johnson.
Hi, John and Adam.
After my fiancée Elizabeth Solieri, a friend of Mozart's, made a donation last week, I had to make one myself.
I can't let her marry a douchebag, as I have never donated.
So here's my donation to de-douche me.
You've been de-douched.
Also to say that as a man, I'm normally wrong with the other, fairer sex, but today I get to be correct.
Sorry, baby.
The wedding is in the morning on December 23rd, 2012, not 2011.
In the morning!
Yeah, baby.
And also, if we get the end-of-the-world discount for the wedding, John and Adam, in honor of the No Agenda Love Connection, you will both be getting a check in the mail to rebuild after the mothership comes back to repopulate.
We also have that plan out there for people out there, $33.33.
Okay.
Oh, John, thanks for getting me in trouble.
I didn't even pronounce Liz's name right.
I guess he misspelled it or something.
$50 donation at $10.10 for the good karma, blah, blah, blah.
Keith Johnson, Poughkepsy.
Yes, I love you, sweetheart.
You make me a happy buzzkill.
So I guess that's to you, Adam.
Hey, man, did Eric have any Ritalin when he was a kid?
No.
Eric the Shill?
No, no, no.
We never gave him any drugs whatsoever.
You should have.
He's so testy, man.
When I say that he missed something...
Well, he's big.
He's a big guy.
He's like 6'4", and he's big.
He's a big guy.
He could sit on my head.
Genetically, he's in that same bigness.
He looks like a Viking.
He's a Bigfoot.
Because he was raised during that era where we were pumping in so much...
He's a Sasquatch.
...growth hormone into the beef...
And he loved eating beef.
He's a beef eater.
That's why I think there's so many tall women in his age group.
He's so testy, man.
He's like, sue me!
Sue me!
Breathe my secondhand smoke.
Hey, John, it's time to draw him out.
You got yours?
Yep, here it is.
Alright, let's see.
We have...
Lucas Hawkinson, step forward please.
Lucas, it's taking you a couple weeks, a couple months actually, but you've made it, which means soon a beautiful hit-em-in-the-mouth-in-the-morning ring will be dawning your finger.
But first you need to kneel as we hereby knight thee, Sir Lucas Hawkinson, Knight of the No Agenda Roundtable.
And we've got a couple more, John.
This is really good.
Yeah, it's a big three.
It surely is great.
Jeffrey Yang, step forward, please.
John, I need your sword.
There you go.
Jeffrey, your support of at least $1,000 to the No Agenda show is highly appreciated.
It's not just appreciated, but it puts you in a very exclusive club, which is forever growing and can be found at noagendanation.com, the map that shows all the donations.
Your location now marked by a knight's helmet, because we pronounce the Sir Jeffrey Yang, Knight of the No Agenda Roundtable!
Please!
Enjoy our hookers and blow.
And then, finally, he's been tweeting about it.
He's very, very excited.
I know he is.
And even if the ring didn't even exist, which it hasn't until Sir Paul Couture arrived on the scene.
Our hero.
Our hero, Lord of the Rings.
Your hero, because this was your responsibility.
You've outsourced it.
Well, it worked.
You've outsourced it.
Rory Stone, step forward!
Rory!
Ah, looking good, Rory.
In fact, I'm going to pull out the really big sword for you today, my friend.
Rory Stone, you've been very excited about this, and we've done all the work.
Eric actually tried to block your knighthood today, but I jumped in and saved you.
And we tally it all up, and it does indeed equal $1,000.
You are here by knighted Sir Rory Stone, knight of the No Agenda Roundtable!
An extra hooker and blow for you!
So, we do not take any money, any commercials, no commercial form of support whatsoever for this program.
Quite frankly, we wouldn't have made it past episode two if we had done that.
Because, you know, how can you talk about the things that we talk about?
And it's not just...
The financial support, it is also the production support, because everyone who's a listener is a producer.
That's why we always have our execs and associate executive producers.
And we need all the help we can get.
We use your money, your support to pay bills.
I'm unemployed.
John, I believe as of next week, you're unemployed.
Is that right?
That's what you heard?
What did you hear?
What did you hear, man?
What?
You heard what?
What did you hear, man?
I don't know.
I heard your show was off the air.
Oh, Cranky Gakes is dead.
Yeah, you want to say why?
Well, it's because these two companies couldn't come to any agreements.
And, you know, the funny thing from the beginning, I talk about this on the show running Wednesday.
The final Cranky Geeks runs on Wednesday.
You can listen to it.
It's going to be streamed live, too, although it's already in the can.
But it's already pre-taped, right?
But we talk about some of these issues, but the thing is that until we get to a real IPTV situation where a half-hour show is viable and gets picked up by national advertisers, all these companies won, and I include Mevio and Ziff and all the rest of them, all of them, All they really, really want to deal with are the five-minute, two-minute, three-minute commercials where they can have a pre-roll at the beginning of the show.
I saw this coming years ago because I listened to all these ad tech lectures and all these advertising agencies.
It's beyond them to do any work whatsoever.
They just want to line up a bunch of little pre-roll opportunities and then run pre-roll, pre-roll, pre-roll, pre-roll, two minutes, pre-roll, two minutes, pre-roll, two minutes, pre-roll.
So they can run all these millions of little ads, these 15-second pre-rolls, and they don't want to deal with a half-hour show.
We don't know if anyone's watching more than one minute of this show.
We can't assume people even watch this show.
All we know is a pre-roll.
We know they see that.
That's what they say.
You know, I've met a lot of ad executives in my life, sucked a lot of them off.
That is exactly the voice they have.
Yeah.
Do it again.
That's really good.
I'll be an exec.
Hey, we've got this really great show called Cranky Geeks.
And hold on.
How long is it?
We'd like to sell you some sponsorship.
It's a half hour.
It's got great pundits on it.
There's no way of monetizing a show like that.
There's no metrics for anything past the minute.
We can't tell if somebody's watching it.
Downloads don't count.
Downloads don't count.
We can't prove anybody's even watching.
They download and don't watch.
That's what we think.
Can I write you up for an order?
For some pre-rolls?
So anyway, so that's basically the problem.
You know I was blowing you during that whole pitch, right?
It worked.
I got the order.
I'm the advertising guy.
My dick is numb from all the blowjobs I get.
That's the start of the show, everybody.
Let me just mark the moment that that occurred.
That is perfect, yes.
Anyway.
We don't have to deal with these clowns because we don't have to deal with these clowns because we use the public as, you know, the public pays for the show.
The show goes on as long as the public...
Yeah, and if the show sucks, we don't get paid.
I like the system.
It really works.
Well, and then we have a lot of supporters.
We have a lot of really good supporters.
We have patrons.
We have people who have given, you know, thousands and thousands.
I mean, there's about ten people that have given us plenty of, you know, a lot of money.
They're patrons, essentially.
It's a Same way that PBS used to be.
Used to be.
Yes, used to be.
They figured out that they can scam everybody.
I don't know.
Yeah, so Dvorak.org slash NA, which is a really catchy website.
That URL is really catchy because you remember it.
Dvorak.org.
You can't even spell it.
Most people are like, what?
Dvorak.org slash NA. You can also go to the noagendashow.com and link from there.
Yeah, that's another way to do it.
Or you go to channeldvorak.com slash NA and you can get to our new and improved donations page.
Yes, and don't forget we have the $42 Super Karma, but you might also want to check out NoAgendaFans.com.
There's only $125 less, so you've got to hurry if you want that.
Although I hear...
Paul would consider...
Well, I don't even want to say.
I just don't want to mess with a guy's program.
It's great, because that's how we do it.
You want to copy the show?
Copy the show.
You want to broadcast it on your local FM radio?
Go ahead.
You want to put it on Sirius Satellite?
Sirius?
Go ahead.
Go ahead.
Put it on Sirius.
We won't charge your thing.
You have pirate radio?
We have a couple pirate stations that broadcast the show.
Go ahead.
Broadcast it.
Put it on your shortwave.
Put it on your ham radio.
It's open source.
Please.
Please.
You want to create a website?
Do it.
You want to sell stuff?
I had somebody the other day saying, well, that's a good name.
No agenda.
I like it.
It's kind of nihilistic.
It has all kinds of secondary means.
You have it trademarked.
Yeah, trademarked.
I said, no, we're open source.
If somebody wants to steal the name, good luck.
Yeah.
Go and do a Google search for No Agenda.
You'll see all of the great websites that our producers have made with varying success.
And people pass on some cash to us.
And the great thing is, it's great because we don't have to do anything because we're lazy and we're useless.
All we do is we watch C-SPAN. All we do is, yeah, we watch C-SPAN and then we do the show.
I'm going to show myself old by donating to No Agenda.
Imagine all the people who could do that.
Oh yeah, that'd be fab.
Yeah, on No Agenda.
In the morning.
Hey, even the Beatles are doing it.
It's not even a matter of being lazy.
It's a matter of that we can leverage...
Incompetent.
Incompetent.
Well, maybe that.
Think of the rings.
But we can leverage much better by just being open source.
I mean, this is one of the...
No one has done this, by the way.
We're the originators of this concept.
That's right.
Completely open source the show so you can use the name, you can steal the show, you can put it on your own blog, you can run it on a pirate station.
It's public domain.
Essentially everything we do is public domain.
Just leave the pitch for the donations in there.
That's all.
We'd like that because that gives us the opportunity to keep the show going.
And one day PBS and NPR are going to wake up and they go, what?
How do those guys do that?
How are those two idiots?
Those guys are stupid.
They're stupid.
Why, they don't even have their name trademarked.
They don't know what they're doing.
They don't have a trademark.
They're idiots.
They're stupid.
I can't believe it.
That's like money away.
Yeah, they're leaving money on the table.
And by the way, feel free to make money off of us, too.
That's great.
I love it.
Anyway, John, so, you know, we've had all these UFO sightings recently.
A lot of them, actually.
Of course, the most famous one is the UFO that shut down the Thailand airport.
Which is just great.
Because, obviously, they're around us.
There's no way that the extraterrestrials aren't in the hood, as it were.
But I think that they're ramping up for something.
As we now have a retired NORAD officer...
Who has released a new book, and this is from...
So you know what NORAD is?
That's the...
North American whatever.
Yeah, early warning defense radar thing.
It's called Challenges of Change, and this book reports that there will be an initial interaction in a process leading to mankind's acceptance of the alien reality and technologies for the removal of poisonous gases from the Earth's atmosphere in 2015, if not sooner.
And he is predicting there will be a worldwide UFO display on October 13, 2010.
You know that I will be looking towards...
Is this going to be like that mothership that was going to land in Brazil a year and a half ago?
No, it wasn't in Brazil.
Actually, it was in Brazil.
So you know me.
I will be out on the deck here at the Hilltop Watchtower, Crackpot Command Center, tracing the skies.
It'll be hard to see through all the cameras.
So this is coming up soon.
These guys are risking a lot.
You know, I recommend to people who are going to dream crap like this up that they push it out a little bit.
That way they can get a book out at least and get some money.
So this guy's got a book out.
That's what I just said.
This is a 352-page book by retired Air Force officer Stanley A. Fulham predicts October 13th as the date for a massive UFO display over the world's principal cities.
Does he name the cities?
Let me see.
Principal cities.
New York, LA, Hong Kong, London.
You know, kind of like Independence Day.
Except these will be the good kind.
But before you say it, because what do we normally say when this type of activity heats up?
I don't know.
What do we normally say?
What do you normally say?
It says bullcrap.
That's what I say.
After you say bullcrap, usually there's a movie associated with this type of activity.
There's always a movie.
I'm waiting for the movie about the bed bugs.
Well, listen to this one.
You'll like this new movie called Skyline.
I didn't have time to pull a clip, so I'm actually running it off of the YouTubes.
Here we go.
This preview, by the way, has been approved for appropriate audiences by the MPA. It's not going to make it.
It hasn't loaded enough, I don't think.
It says, on August 20, 2009, NASA sent a message into space farther than we ever thought possible.
In an effort to reach extraterrestrial life.
I'm stalling a little bit because the YouTube videos are really loading slowly.
Well, it's because people are demanding to see it.
Yeah.
Oh I love the drama of it.
Stephen Hawking, astrophysicist and arguably one of the smartest people on the planet.
I love this.
So what they've done, as I try to fill up some more space while it loads, is they've taken all of the real-life stuff.
Because, of course, Stephen Hawkins has just come out.
Coincidentally, you don't think he's involved in it.
And he said, God couldn't have created the Earth.
Are you nuts?
God could not have created the Earth.
Are you crazy?
That is impossible.
There must be aliens.
And then look who pops up on the radar.
It's our old friend.
The hard-nosed journalist warned us about the possibility of aliens from outer space.
Hawking says that if extraterrestrials visit us, the outcome might be similar to when Columbus landed in America.
That's Dan Rather.
Dan Rather's in the movie.
He's such a hard-nosed reporter.
He has no qualms whatsoever about going into this movie with his bull crap.
Hey, he needs the money.
In other words, it didn't turn out too well for Native Americans.
This is probably slated for Thanksgiving, isn't it?
No, release date November 2nd.
It'll probably be the big Thanksgiving Day weekend, which is...
And they're shooting on us.
Maybe we should have listened, it says.
Oh no!
They're blowing up New York!
Oh no!
Where's Bruce Willis?
It's just Armageddon.
Anyway, you can watch the entire trailer.
NoagendaShowNotes.com.
NoagendaShow.com, I'm sorry.
Sounds like a piece of crap.
So, regardless, I remain faithful, and I would just make a small suggestion, just a very small one.
We have our $33.33 a month boarding pass to the mothership.
I'm just saying, October 13th, the mothership could show up.
We only have 1,000 seats.
Many of those are already taken.
It's up to you.
I'm not forcing you.
But I'm on board.
So if they're taking people away, I'm waving to you, Johnny Boy.
I'm staying behind.
See ya.
Wouldn't want to be you.
They're just going to take you up there and eviscerate you.
That's the word of the day.
A couple of eviscerate.
Yes, that is the word of the day.
No agenda word of the day.
There's a website for that, too.
So a couple of things that we haven't really touched on in the show, which I think we do need to mention.
First of all, it's all Ministry of Truth stuff.
We know that Aspartame changed or is in the process of rebranding.
Because whenever it gets too hot around these type of products and people are catching on to the evilness of what these products do, they just rebrand.
And they call in their friends Hill and Knowlton.
So the high-fructose corn syrup, now known as corn sugar, Yeah, which is a two-step process, by the way.
What they're going to do is they're going to first rename high fructose corn syrup as corn sugar, and then they're going to change.
I've seen this happen so many times.
Then the corn industry is going to go up and say, why do we have to put corn sugar when the guys who make cane sugar don't have to put cane sugar?
They just put sugar.
And they're both the same thing.
Why can't we just put sugar?
And then the FDA or whoever is going to say, okay.
It'll all say sugar now.
That's what it's going to end up being.
It's going to be corn, sugar for about a year, then it's going to be just sugar.
And then the cane sugar guys are going to put cane sugar.
Could you put that down in the prediction book?
You have it there?
The little book of John's...
This is the book we need to publish, John.
Prediction book.
It's not a prediction book.
What is the prediction book?
I can't remember the prediction book.
While you're looking for the prediction book, we have another rebranding.
First, it was global warming.
Then, it was climate change.
And, of course, neither of those have worked very well because we scoff at their bull crap and their lies and their scientific fudging.
So now, it's going to be called global climate disruption, which I think is actually the correct term, since you know I'm a strong believer in the use of weather modification systems.
And I think that is the only correct term, and they should have started that from starting out of the gate.
It's global climate disruption.
This is the White House science advisor John Holdren urged people to start using the phrase during a speech last week in Oslo, echoing a plea he made a couple years earlier.
He said, Doesn't this guy, this White House science advisor, John Holdren, look like a douchebag?
Yeah, he does.
It looks like it.
Yeah, I agree.
He should write for the Washington Times.
And look at that mouth.
You're looking at the Fox News article?
Yeah.
He has his mouth all puckered up.
I'm ready for you.
You can slide it in now, scientist.
He urged people to start using the phrase, global climate disruption.
That's too much of a mouthful.
They can call it GCD. Oh, that'll be good.
We can do that.
I like it.
Yeah.
Science!
So, right on the heels of the big exercise they had, now it's propagating through the mainstream media in Gitmo Nation East.
Quake Britain!
UK overdue for a massive tremor that could kill scores of people at any moment!
I think we did this on the last show.
No, this is new though.
So first they had the exercise, now they're coming out with the articles.
You see?
So now they're saying, now they're going in depth.
Dr.
Roger Mewson of the British Geological Survey believes a fracture in the Earth's crust beneath the English Channel could slip at any time, John, sending a tremor rippling across the southeast.
That's right.
You could all die.
The BBC. Now the BBC. The Beeb.
Auntie.
The BBC. Reporting.
Quakes are an issue for London.
That's right.
And, just so you don't feel left out, Seattle Times.
That's up where your loved ones live.
West Coast remains ill-prepared for tsunami.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
That's bullcrap, by the way.
You drive along the Olympic Peninsula, along any one of those roads, and you'll see signs all over the place.
Tsunami route, this way.
They've never had a tsunami in recent memory, but there are signs everywhere about where to go if there's a tsunami, and everybody talks about nothing.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
This is a scientific report, John.
Oregon State University civil engineering professor, Harry Yeh.
Yeah.
Y-E-H. Yeah.
Served on the review committee, and that's not true, John.
You were not prepared for a tsunami.
Shut up, slave!
You're not prepared!
That's the science.
So don't tell me that you think there's signs and everything.
You're not prepared up there.
You're going to die.
And by the way, that's all anyone talks about.
What?
Yeah, if it comes down this way, and it's going to go take a right turn in Port Townsend, and it's going to take out the paper mill, and it's going to take out the...
Jones' farm!
Basically, that's what they talk about constantly.
Yeah, I don't know what's going to happen.
You're going to get a good enough warning to get the kids up the hill.
I'm so happy I'm up here in the Hollywood Hills, 832 feet.
Yeah, it's great up here, man.
A thousand foot tsunami to take you out.
That's right.
It ain't gonna happen.
I'll be up here laughing away.
You're also way deep inland.
You can't even see the water from there, can you?
No, there's too much secondhand cigarette smoke.
I can't see it from here.
Oh my goodness.
And I have a question for you.
I read this and I wrote it down.
And I hope the translation...
It was very confusing to me.
While we were in Gitmo Nation Lowlands, I saw a small article in the Ministry of Truth newspaper, the Telegraph, About, you know, the whole salt meme.
Like, oh, salt is killing people.
And, oh, we should reduce our diet.
Less salt in your diet.
And for some reason, they said the good salt is what you should be eating.
And I'm like, whoa, ding, ding, ding.
Hello, the good salt.
And they mentioned calium.
What?
Calium salt.
Have you ever heard of calium?
C-A-L-I-U-M? Calium?
Calium?
Well, for one thing, you have to note that when we had our deli, we had like all these selections of salt.
I still use some of them.
The best salt, by the way, for people out there interested in the gourmet part of our show, is something called, I can't remember.
So anyway.
What a great setup.
Hold on a second.
In the morning.
Hey, wouldn't you remember?
Send everyone an email, will you?
Flore de Selle is the best salt you can get, which is from France typically, but there's a smoked version called Fumé de Selle from France.
Not the smoked salts from the U.S., but the smoked salt from France is extremely delicious.
But there's all kinds of salts, and there's also a black salt that I grind up with a mortar and pestle once in a while.
Hey, you grind up in your witch's brew.
So, calcium...
Calium.
Calium, which is a...
I can't even find it online.
I get calcium.
No, no.
You have to specify calium because Google actually steers you away from calium and gives you calcium results, which blew me away.
Because that's exactly what I went through.
I Google for calium and normally it says, were you searching for calcium?
In this particular instance, you can try this at home.
It automatically gives you the results for calcium.
Yeah, I'm looking at the calium stuff now.
Calium side effects.
But what is it?
Calium is a salt, apparently.
Calium salt.
What is it?
I don't know, but this is why I was like, whoa, hold on a second.
We've been waiting for the aspartame of salt to show up, and now it's calium salt.
And just like an offhanded little box on the bottom of the page 5 of the newspaper.
Calium chloride.
Well, don't say it.
No F-bombing.
I didn't.
Calium.
Yeah.
Calium chloride.
Classificating device, solid and liquid, calium...
Where's my Merck?
Oh, God, I have my Merck index would have it in there, and I don't have it handy.
I made a big deal by getting one.
Yeah, thanks for that.
Okay, well, you caught me off guard here.
We don't have agendas.
Let's see.
Rose Maritha is one leading of herbs, raw material.
Indonesia, export of herbs and spices.
On the Google page, I get Calium Salt manufacturers, buyers, and suppliers.
Let's see.
This is...
Here we go.
Category.
This is not helping me either.
Eric sent me calcium.
No, it's not calcium.
It's calium.
No, it's not.
It's calium.
And there is calium listed.
Here's calium salt.
Here they have it as magnesium chloride.
This could be...
Apparently, this is a natural occurrence in apples.
Magnesium chloride.
See, when you do calium salt, Google says showing results for calcium salt.
Why does Google do that?
I don't like that.
Let's see.
Maybe because they don't have enough entries.
Well, I'm getting entries.
Calium slowly rising.
What is this?
Here we go.
I've got a link here on the second page.
This is real-time, folks.
And what do I get?
The reef tank.
And I get like...
Oh, jeez.
Hey guys, I did what everyone said, which is to get the bionic two-part stuff that's working.
What?
Here it is.
2-methyl-2-oxovaleric acid calcium, ketolucine calcium salt.
This is like made by good material and subtle technology and enjoys a high reputation amongst our customers.
This is some chemical witch's brew.
Yeah, well, that's what aspartame is.
This is my entire point.
How is this anything good for you?
Oh, according to Mr.
Oil, it's potassium.
He has the Merck right here.
So he has the Merck entry.
Mr.
Oil, I'm going to send this to you.
Hold on a second.
So potassium, if they're talking about potassium chloride, this stuff is actually deadly.
Well, then it would make sense, wouldn't it?
I mean, you need a little potassium in your system.
Here, check this.
This is from the Merck.
And there are already salts that are like half sodium chloride, half potassium chloride, but the fact of the matter is...
U.S. brand names.
K-Tab.
Oh, I like that.
Hey, man, pass the K-Tab.
Micro-K. Chlor-Con.
Hmm.
Hmm.
I see Eric sent me a thing.
This stuff is being made in China.
Yeah, of course.
Yeah, it says some of that toothpaste over, too, and let's kill our kids.
Anyway, so be on the lookout.
Producers, this is an APB, All Producers Bulletin.
Be on the lookout for a meme of calium salts.
Be on the lookout.
We've been waiting for this to show up, and this may be the early beginnings.
This is better than looking out for UFOs.
Because this stuff is real.
This is real.
This is absolutely real.
This is so off the wall.
It's ridiculous.
Now, wait a minute.
Let's go back to the original article.
Who wrote this article dropping this bomb?
It was in the Dutch newspaper in the Telegraaf.
Maybe I can still Google it and find it.
Hold on a second.
If I do...
What do I do?
Sight problem?
Like you said, the Dutch are the early warning system for this stuff.
Yes!
Yeah, absolutely.
And I'm going to do Callion.
Here's the Merck entry that you sent me.
Yeah, that's from Mr.
Oil.
The news behind the news.
Hmm.
Oh, here it is.
Here it is.
I got it.
I think I found it.
This is from 2009.
This Merck entry never mentions calium.
This is just an entry for potassium chloride.
Here it says, vegetables and fruit are rich in calium salt, like melons and oranges.
This is the good salt, calium.
Okay, well, we'll just keep your eye on it.
We'll finish this off next week.
This is bull crap.
How do you really feel about it, though, John?
How does this suddenly appear out of the blue unless somebody's got something to sell?
Yeah, nothing is suddenly out of the blue.
Ever.
Ever.
So, a couple of notes about the Gitmo Nation jewelry that we've been following.
The 3M Corporation, which I might add is not only huge, but of course also participating in killing Jews.
Correct?
Correct.
3M? Yeah.
I don't know that.
If not, then they did now.
They have acquired the Tel Aviv-based ATenti, a remote people tracking technology provider.
This is – that's an acronym.
RPT. Remote People Tracking Technology Provider.
Attenti, formerly known as DMATEC, provides solutions to track 50,000 individuals daily around the world in geriatric and judicial care segments.
This is beautiful.
That is poetry right there.
The acquisition, which follows 3M's purchase of fingerprint ID company Cognit Inc., Which they acquired on Monday, gives 3M access to RFID and GPS technology.
So, I would say...
I thought this company just made scotch tape.
Yeah, you should Google 3M. I think it's 3M Nazis.
Let's try that.
3M Nazis.
I'm pretty sure they...
I'm pretty sure...
Maybe I'm wrong.
I apologize if I'm wrong.
I thought that originally 3M had something to do...
No, I don't think so.
I think it was just a 3M bigot.
But anyway, these are interesting acquisitions in two weeks.
Remote people tracking technology for judicial and geriatric care segments.
And then, you know, a week before, fingerprint ID company, Cognit, which, by the way, for almost a billion dollars.
So now they've got RFID, GPS technology.
Currently, location-based services have gained spotlight because of Google and Facebook's launch of products and features around these technologies.
Yay!
It's all coming together very slowly.
And, so get the prediction book, Lindsay Lohan failed her drug test, John, in just a little bit of...
And now, back to real news.
So she failed her drug test.
I'm taking bets now that she will not go to jail.
She will be wearing a 3M Gitmo Nation bracelet.
Because that's where this is all headed.
Are you Googling Lindsay Lohan?
Or what are you doing?
No, I'm good.
No.
Go on.
So I just want to say, that's on the horizon.
So my son JC says that calium is a Latin word for potassium.
But that's spelled with a K. And that's why K is the chemical symbol for potassium.
But this is spelled with a C. Well, no, no, no.
Actually, this is interesting you say that.
In the Dutch report, it's spelled with a K, but in Dutch, most C words are spelled with a K. Okay, so it probably is potassium chloride then.
Which is dangerous.
Well, yeah, if you have too much, you overload your potassium.
Right, so there you go.
Case in point, this is the aspartame of salt.
Well, no, this is naturally found in natural salts, I mean like sea salts.
Right, but they're going to manufacture it and it's going to be potassium chloride and it's going to kill you.
We're going to have too much potassium in our system.
Yeah, but it's going to kill you.
Keep your eye on it.
Keep your eye on it.
Yeah, we have to watch this.
It's not good for you.
In fact, especially if you get older, too much potassium is dangerous.
Hi guys, says Tristan from Gitmo Nation Stinky Cheese.
That's France.
We have one guy in France.
This news could be of interest to you.
The socialist mayor of a small French town increased local taxes to around 3,380%.
The official reason is to force the landowner to sell to construct social buildings.
Yay!
They all moved to France.
That could happen here.
And they're selling the mosque in a box.
Did you blog that?
The mosque in a box?
No, I didn't see the mosque in a box.
This imam in Paris created a mosque in a box for the Muslims who want to pray.
It's very busy in Paris.
And it's like a fold-out mosque.
And you just unfold it and lay down your little rug and you pray.
It's beautiful.
There's a link in the show notes.
I was at the San Francisco airport recently and I got down on the basement of the parking garage and there's a guy there with his rug out and praying up and down, up and down, the whole thing.
And the thing is, I think it was pointed to...
Even the wrong way?
Anchorage or something.
I think it was in the wrong direction.
I was going to correct it.
Excuse me.
Excuse me, sir.
I have my iPhone compass here.
Hey, that's a great app, by the way.
I bet you it exists, too.
Oh, no.
I think it does.
It probably does.
Yeah, it probably does.
By the way, this whole, and I think we've deconstructed some of that with different sources from around Gitmo Nation, is this whole anti-Muslim thing.
It's bullshit.
It's just to scare everybody and to make you think that radical Islamists are going to come and kill you.
That's all that this is about, and that's all that it seems to be about on television these days.
No matter what country you're in.
Oh, don't anger the Muslims.
They're going to attack us.
They're going to kill us.
It's bull crap.
It's not going to happen.
It's just to keep you scared, you stupid slaves.
Well, what about that poor cartoonist that had to go into hiding?
Into hiding.
There you go.
It's like, you know, the FBI. Was it the FBI? Yeah, it was the FBI. Yeah, the FBI said, oh, you've got to go into hiding.
Yeah, but they published it in the newspaper.
He's going into hiding!
Please.
Please.
This is stupid.
It's a girl.
It's stupid.
It makes no sense whatsoever.
It's just to scare everybody and keep you preoccupied.
But why?
What's the point?
Well, if you keep people scared...
What information are they trying to hide from us?
What do you mean, what information?
So they can just go ahead with their business, raping us of our money, of our stuff, of our land, of our rights.
That's what it's about.
Just be afraid.
If you control people's minds that way, and you're throwing fluoride in the water, and you're doping the kids up, you've got a perfect populace.
And here's some calium.
Eat that.
This calium is getting...
I'm looking more and more calium carbonate, calium carbonate manufacturers.
If it's potassium, why aren't they using the word potassium?
What is this calium thing?
It makes no sense to me.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I can only report on what I see.
Well, now you've got me befuddled.
Have you heard of the DREAM Act?
This is another interesting one.
We should follow that.
I only heard about it this morning.
The DREAM Act, the way I understand it, is if you are a child of illegal immigrants in the United States, you can get on a conditional path to citizenship if you A, fess up, and if you serve in two years of military service.
No, we need some more soldiers.
This was done by Harry Reid out of Nevada to get the Mexican vote in the upcoming November election.
No, no, it's Orrin Hatch.
It's not Harry Reid.
It's Orrin Hatch and Dick Durbin.
I thought it was Harry Reid.
No, no.
I'm looking at it right here.
It's dreamact.info.
Bipartisan legislation.
Oh, this is the act itself.
Apparently, Harry Reid took the act and incorporated it into the defense spending bill.
This is my understanding.
Oh, that's possible.
I don't know about that.
And the reason he did that was for the benefit of his Latino voters.
Well, this is the thing now.
I heard Geraldo on Dennis Miller, and he was saying, and it was this morning, Colin Powell said the same thing.
We will be a minority nation.
And Colin Powell actually, I wish I could quote him verbatim, he said, but our minorities are dumb, so we've got to smarten him up and put him in the military.
Yeah.
This is amazing.
So take a look at that, dreamact.info.
Which, you know, it's all fine and dandy, but it's essentially, it's enslaving people.
That's the idea.
Yeah.
Just become a slave and, oh, you happen to be dark-skinned.
Well, you qualify as a slave.
Good.
You must have good moral character in order to qualify, according to dreamact.info.
And that's a link.
So let's see, what is good moral character?
Hmm, basic information.
Doesn't actually say...
Oh, here it is.
What is considered good moral character?
While the DREAM Act has not outlined specific guidelines of what, quote, good moral character should be, it can be characterized as being a law-abiding resident of the United States.
This list may or not be as comprehensive.
However, it's a good way to gauge one's moral character.
For example, some students may have committed minor crimes such as misdemeanors before they turned 18.
Those minor incidents may not hinder the application process for conditional permanent residency as much as being convicted of a felony would.
However, since there are no guidelines, we cannot be 100% positive on which crimes would impact one's application.
So, if you're an illegal immigrant and you've committed a crime, you're good.
Come on in.
That's fine.
Just serve in the military.
Go kill some other brown people in a foreign land, and you're good for us.
So, on another topic, since I'm falling asleep with this one...
Remember the time those two women got busted from the North Korea thing?
Yeah.
Ling Ling and Lu Lu.
Yeah.
You know, they had that patter of, you know, like, oh, I want to thank you for being back, and they were kind of crying and everything.
So Sarah Stone, oh, I'm sorry, Sarah Shore, the Iranian who was captured in Iran with a couple other people was let go.
And she was also hiking, or what was she doing there?
She was supposedly hiking.
She looks, I don't know, the Iranians think they're CIA guys trying to sneak into the country.
Which she probably is.
And she gave a statement.
She gave a press conference.
For people, for an amateur that doesn't, you know, I don't think anyone can just stand in front of a microphone and casually, you know, read a press release and sound like they've done it all their lives.
I just don't, I don't believe that, right?
No.
So here she is.
She's been released and she makes a statement.
And I don't know about you, but it sounds like these two women from North Korea to me.
An American woman tonight is on her way home after spending more than a year captive in Iran.
Sarah Short left Oman earlier where she was staying following her release Tuesday.
Short is one of three American hikers detained by Iran after they allegedly crossed over the border from Iraq in July of 2009.
She regrets having to leave the others behind.
I will always associate your country with the first breath of my freedom, the sweet smell of sandalwood, and the chance to stand by the ocean listening to the waves.
I thank the good hospitable people of Oman for your support and ask you to please, please extend your prayers to my fiancé Shane and my friend Josh.
Inshallah, they will soon be free.
Well, Iran agreed to release short for medical reasons.
She reportedly found a lump in her breast while she was in prison.
This is crazy.
I thought you'd get a kick out of it.
This is crazy.
Oh, we have you.
We're evil Iran.
We're holding you hostage.
Oh, you might have breast cancer.
Okay, you can go.
Please.
That is very weird.
What does she do for a living that she's such a great orator?
Yeah, I would think so.
Let me see.
Sarah Shore CIA. Let me just...
Let's see if we got the spook index comes up with her.
Wait, no, no, that's not the way we're supposed to.
We're supposed to do Sarah Shore Monsanto.
That's your other theory.
Just Sarah Shore Monsanto.
The smart money always gives somebody a name like...
Hello?
John?
Yeah.
Yeah, you dropped out.
Yeah, you dropped out.
Well, listen.
The name Sarah Shores is buried with doctors and lawyers and all kinds of things.
Yeah, well, I do have Sarah.
I do have top hits.
She's a hiker.
She's apparently a professional.
The world according to Monsanto.
Let's see.
There's a link here with her.
There's probably 25 Sarah Shores that work there.
Yeah, you're right.
Oh, by the way, before I forget, this has been emailed to me several times.
News now has come out that...
By the way, wait, stop.
It's Sarah Shourd, S-H-O-U-R-D. Ooh.
And?
Do you have a hit?
I don't know.
I just found the correction here.
But I thought they pronounced her Shourd the way they do it.
Can I just switch gears for a second?
Sure.
Since we're talking about our friends at...
Documents reveal that Blackwater has been busy expanding its corporate reach by providing intelligence services for agencies such as the Canadian military, the Netherlands police, and corporations like Monsanto.
That's right.
Blackwater was doing some black ops for people who were against the agribusiness on behalf of Monsanto.
It's a subsidiary called Total Intelligence, and they were...
That's Blackwater...
XE, XE Services, another Gitmo rebranding.
Citing the growing movement to destroy GMO crops, Monsanto was hoping to be able to quell dissent through infiltrating activist groups that take direct action.
Those guys are great.
They're just fantastic.
So, go ahead.
Well, Eric Prince was on...
That CNBC morning show.
Oh, he's an interesting guy to watch.
Should we play that as an end-of-show clip?
Because it's about five minutes.
And it was in July, so it was a couple months ago.
Okay, I've got to get back to the Sarah Short thing, because I just got a little bio.
Okay.
Now, remember those two girls, Ling Ling and the other one?
La-de-la.
What school did they come from?
Stanford.
Berkeley.
Berkeley.
Oh, sorry.
They were at the journalism school in Berkeley.
Okay, this woman, she attended UC Berkeley, where she lived after graduating until moving to Damascus.
She previously taught as part of the Iraqi Student Project, a program which gives Iraq students living in Damascus.
She's an economic hit woman.
Let me go on.
She said, reflecting her time in Syria, Ethiopia, Yemen, Mexico...
Yeah, okay.
Now she's in Damascus where she teaches English and is learning Arabic.
Yeah, just an everyday chick from Berkeley.
Yeah, a regular Berkeley chick, just roaming around, teaching people stuff.
Great.
Okay.
Well, I certainly hope that she...
Oh, thank you, Jamba Juice.
I hope she doesn't have cancer or anything.
No, of course not.
That would be horrible.
No, but it's funny to see the background.
She's like a casual hiker in the Iraqi mountains.
Yeah.
Oh, I got lost.
Yeah.
And by the way, what are you doing in Iraq?
Yeah, right.
I was just wandering around Iraq, and I stumbled into Iran, and I got put in jail, and thank you, I can now feel the ocean waves tingling my privates.
It's so nice.
Meanwhile, she stuck her poor boyfriend in his body.
They're still stuck in an Iranian jail, getting it up the rear, probably.
Who needs a divorce when you've got Iran?
Hey, you got some Craigslist stuff here.
You have so much, I figured you had a whole rant that I wouldn't want to withhold from the show.
Craigslist, they had the big giant hearing.
We can play all these for just the final one.
But there was this woman from Texas, this black congresswoman.
Oh, not that crazy one?
With all the wrapped around clothing?
Well, she's definitely wearing some outrageous clothing.
Is that her name?
Sheila Jackson.
Sheila Jackson.
Yeah, she's nuts.
She is nuts, man.
I love her.
She's got all the wraps on.
And she's going after Craigslist for child trafficking.
And so is this head guy.
The guy's the head of the whole thing.
And they don't understand Craigslist.
They probably never visited it.
They don't even know what prostitution is from what I can tell.
But we can play a little clip.
I don't want to play all these clips in full cloth.
I just want to play a little bit until we get to clip four.
So you just get a flavor for the way this was going.
It was the Congress grilling a bunch of police departments.
How come you don't call the Craigslist girls and pick them up?
How come you don't do this?
How come you don't do that?
These guys are idiots.
But play clip one for a second.
I have Craig Ferguson.
Is that clip one?
No, no.
Craig Ferguson is a different...
Craig's List 1.
Craig's List 1.
Here we go.
Eyes up and accept their good citizenship and say they will not have these kind of sites on any form of public, if you will, when I say public, a commercial enterprise where people are making money off of sex crimes.
I love her.
She is awesome.
You have to see her do...
Did you see her with all, like, the scarves?
She's like Steven Tyler.
She's got these fake pearls that looks like a bunch of baseballs around her.
Baseball pearls.
She's awesome.
I think it's very difficult to shut down every site that is on the internet.
You shut down one, there'll be another one.
Before I forget, you know, I have that Twitter feed of Erotic Services, which reposts Craigslist sex ads from London.
And the other day, one came through, help, I'm being trafficked.
Someone literally put that on there as a sex ad.
It's too funny.
However, I truly agree with the chief here saying, if we're going to have these sites, let's do the investigations properly.
Again, I'm not exaggerating when I say MySpace, every pimp has a MySpace page.
That's right!
Know this, if we're giving them the information...
Printing it out, giving them the websites, how to contact them.
So let's do an investigation off of that.
Let's collect why our service providers are collecting all this information, giving it to the police.
Shouldn't they be taking a response and doing that themselves to create cases?
Okay, so this is about shutting down the internet.
That's what it is, right?
John?
I think it might be.
No, of course it is.
This is totally about shutting down the internet.
There's an angle there, that's for sure.
Well, this goes along with the, what was the article that came out that, oh shoot, where is it?
That it's smart engineers who are terrorists.
Did you see that?
No.
Missed that one.
We'll play some more of this Craigslist clip and I'll look for it.
We basically help create these cases of finding out information, collecting all the data that the police need to make sure they actually prosecute and do what they're supposed to and not hold the children on a material with you this morning.
This is a woman that's...
I don't know what...
They try to make the point to Craigslist people.
That's not one of them.
She's with the anti-child trafficking operation.
What?
They keep trying to accuse Craigslist as being some front for child trafficking, when in fact Craigslist is, you know, does the best job of reporting this stuff.
And the argument goes, it goes back and forth and back and forth.
And finally it gets, play clip three, oh no, clip two, The Chairman.
I was in the news the other day when you were with the report about you taking down the site, and they mentioned, I thought it was something about the international site that might not have been taken down, the adult services.
Can you tell me what they were talking about?
There are remaining erotic services categories in sites outside of the United States, including Canada.
I think Ms.
McDougall might be able to speak more effectively to that because it's my understanding that there are a number of issues country by country as well as legal issues for that.
I can tell you that something on the order of 97% of our viewers and use is within the United States and Canada.
Can a United States person access a foreign Craigslist site?
Yes, anyone anywhere can access any Craigslist site anywhere.
Well, that's just outrageous.
We have to shut it all down.
This has to stop.
Damn it.
New York Times Magazine.
Engineering terror.
They say they believe in freedom and share our values.
They say a few bad apples shouldn't bring down judgment on their entire kind.
Don't be fooled.
Though they walk among us with impunity, they are, in the words of Henry Farrell, a political scientist at George Washington University, a group that is notoriously associated with terrorist violence and fundamental political beliefs.
They are engineers.
There you go, sysadmins.
Happy talk like a pirate day to you.
John?
Yes?
This is a systematic approach.
So, hey, oh my gosh, we can actually access trafficked prostitutes in foreign countries?
We've really got to crack down on this internet thing.
This is really bad.
This is bad for the children.
Well, the guy's such an idiot.
He actually says to the Craigslist guy.
Yeah, can you access it?
What, should we play the rest of it?
If you can get on the Toronto site and there's hookers on there, why don't I, here in Washington, D.C., just go on the Toronto sites?
Duh!
The guy says, because nobody, it's not an international site.
If there's hookers in Toronto, they're advertising for the Toronto customers.
This guy does not get it.
No.
Now, I guess the worst thing, there's a third clip, but I'm going to go right to the last clip where Sheila Jackson doesn't get the big scheme of things when she says, well, why don't you shut down the Canadian sites?
Yeah.
And then the lawyer says, well, we were talking to the guy, we know, she was, and they said, well, just shut him down.
You shut him down here.
And so the woman finally cracked.
What she should have said was, because we didn't like shutting it down.
We think that it's better that it's up, and we have reasons for that.
And she finally defends herself.
It takes forever.
And this is the woman from Craigslist?
Yeah, the lawyer for Craigslist.
She finally comes out and defends herself, and then Sheila Jackson doesn't understand what she's talking about.
But the fact of the matter is I had to listen to this and hours and hours of this to get to this.
I think it is a business judgment that the company makes.
I think that the other side of the coin is that what you might be getting is that the government would ask you, well, why are you doing it?
And may make some kind of plea or make some kind of statement or whether it be positive or hostile, why are you taking it down?
But that has not happened.
I don't see the basis of negotiating with the government on a private entity that can take it down.
Let me.
There is actually an answer to that, and that is that not everybody, as you see in some of the materials we submitted, a lot of advocacy groups think that taking down adult services was the wrong thing to do, setting aside the issue that it gives nowhere for legitimate adult services to have a forum.
A lot of the advocacy groups feel very disappointed because it's much more difficult to find the victims now dispersed on these other sites that are non-cooperative.
So we're You know, Craigslist made the decision to do it here, but that does not mean it's a company position that this is the right move.
And that's why it has not gone ahead and done it in Canada, because Canada so far has not said that they think that that is the answer either.
Well, let me just conclude by saying that we will probably agree to disagree, but I'm not in the discussions with Canada, and I do recognize that law enforcement has said that the sites have generated an opportunity for them to press for the victims and then find the perpetrators.
The chief that we might give him other resources to find these perpetrators or enough resources to find them and not proliferate sites in other places.
I think the sites are quite destructive.
Give her the hook.
Right.
So...
Somebody up there should have said, let's legalize prostitution and put a stop to this whole thing.
Yeah, like Norway.
Or Denmark.
What is it, Norway or Denmark?
I don't know.
They're all over the place.
I'm sorry, John, but the way I see this, it's a systematic close-in.
They're saying two things.
So this whole shut-down Craigslist, whatever.
Right?
Whatever.
But what really...
How about rentboys.com?
They're not going to shut that down because 90% of all these male politicians are undercover gay people.
How come they're not calling for that?
Rentboys.com.
It's an international site.
How come they don't want to shut that down?
That's not good enough?
Yeah.
Exactly.
Exactly.
You don't have traffic men?
Anyway, the thing that worries me the most is that they're now saying that engineers, i.e.
sysadmins, are terrorists.
Yeah, I love that.
No, it's very, very disturbing.
Very disturbing.
Well, the sysadmin should be bent out of shape and find out the guys who did this thing and then go in there and terrorize them.
Yeah, exactly.
Not that we advocate terrorism or any other such activities.
On the next show, by the way, we will get to the crazy crap going on in Las Vegas.
Ooh, good.
That's a nice tease.
Yeah, basically murdering some poor guy in the Costco.
Costco.
No, but we, you know, I already emailed you.
We mentioned that story when it happened three months ago.
Yeah, we don't have all these details about them destroying the evidence against themselves and all the rest of it.
It's just too good.
Oh, okay.
I didn't know about that.
This was a follow-up.
I thought it was like, oh, this is news.
We already did the news.
No, no, this has got all kinds of stuff.
It's frightening.
Could you put that in your notes so we don't forget?
It's right here at the top of the list.
And it also brings back the meme about the, I think it's part of the, you know, the federal cops versus the local cops.
Locals are incompetent, the federals are incompetent, and that's coming back into play.
I think that's going to be a big theme for the next year.
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Joining us now first on CNBC is Eric Prince, founder and chairman of Z-Services.
And Eric, you haven't been CEO for how long now?
About a year now.
About a year now.
The night of the day today.
Blackwater, Z, it's still dealing...
I mean, you get business from the federal government even at this point.
New deals continuing to be signed.
Still heavily engaged in Afghanistan and other parts around the world.
What recent signings for what type of services?
There is some additional security work that was just awarded in the last few weeks.
In the last few weeks.
Where does everything else stand in terms of some of the issues that arose in the last three or four years?
Most of them come into resolution, but at the end of the day, after...
After three and a half years of an assault by some of the bureaucracy, kind of a proctology exam brought on by some in Congress, it's time to hang it up.
Because I think some of the Washington view politics a lot more important than performance in the field.
Public sentiment and media sentiment moves back and forth.
Where are we now in terms of the idea that a firm like Blackwater is unnecessary?
Maybe some people don't like what the firm is involved with, but are we back to where people realize this is the kind of thing, it's a dirty job that someone has to do?
There's a lot of fatigue at Afghanistan.
The conflict there is the longest one in American history now.
One of the real challenges the U.S. has is getting control of their costs and how to conduct these operations.
Afghanistan costs per soldier almost twice as much as it does in Iraq because of the limited logistics flow.
So using the private sector to find ways to do things cheaper, smarter, better, the U.S. is going to have to do that.
The total military spending in the world, the U.S. spends half of that, and that's an unsustainable number.
So you're going to have to turn to private sector efficiency initiatives if the U.S. is going to be able to project power, help its friends, whether it's hard power or soft power, doing the work overseas.
There's been so much talk about comparing the surge in Iraq to the surge in Afghanistan and the differences between insurgents in Iraq and Afghan fighters, right?
And just the physical terrain, everything.
Right.
Can a surge work as well, half as well?
Not at all?
What?
I won't comment to whether it will work or not.
I'll just comment on how difficult it is to do it logistically.
When you have to fly in a lot of your jet fuel that you're using every day, you can't even truck it in because the roads are so bad through Pakistan or coming out of Uzbekistan.
It's just hard.
I mean, all the troops for that surge are not even on the ground yet, won't even be in there until August.
So, whereas in Iraq, you could fly them in, boat them in, truck them in.
It's just that much harder.
It's a remote country with a lot more gravel roads than paved.
You know, Eric, we hear that this discovery of incredibly important minerals could be a game changer.
How do you think that could possibly change the game, and what could happen?
Well, I think Afghanistan is a beautiful country.
And it reminds me a lot of parts of it of Colorado.
There's great opportunity to extract resources from the ground, but you have to have infrastructure, you have to have roads and rule of law to do that and some kind of security.
In many parts of Afghanistan, it's safe enough to do that now.
If you ship it out to the north or to the northeast, it's possible to get those mines to get that stuff going.
But you have to have enough of a rule of law and enough security to do that.
And it sounds like that's a long way away.
Mostly in the southeast is where it's the worst.
But parts of the country, it's absolutely doable.
So you need the money that's in the ground to build the infrastructure, but you need the infrastructure to get what's in the ground out to get the money.
What comes first, the chicken or the egg?
That's the question.
It's a real problem.
Obviously, we're still talking about the news from yesterday.
Just any comments on...
Does it make it harder with General Petraeus in that McChrystal has been there and knows Karzai so well?
Are we losing anything?
General McChrystal is a great warrior, very well respected by the troops, as is General Petraeus, and politically acceptable to do the mission.
He was CENTCOM Commander, so it's not like he's been out of the loop.
So that mission will continue.
I think one of the hardest things for a guy like General McChrystal, if he was getting complaints from his troops, It was very restrictive rules of engagement, constant restraints on what they could do.
I mean, you can't drop a bomb from an airplane in Afghanistan without having a lawyer sign off on it.
We've almost allowed lawyers to become what political officers were in the Soviet Union, the guys that truly can approve and nix anything a battlefield commander can do.
And it makes it so tough in a 24-hour news cycle for a ground commander to wage war in an insurgency, Where you have all those uncertainties, all those risks, trying to protect your people, trying to do a job, and protect civilians to be constantly second-guessed by lawyers, inspector generals, and sniping critics back in Washington.
It's great having you on.
Whenever you're on, I feel like I'm getting a Tom Clancy thing going or something.
It's interesting to talk about.
Picking it up, the business is for sale, and it's early in the process, but I will be exiting the U.S. government market completely.
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