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206: Cameras as Weapons

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	Amazing!
	Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak.
	It's 06-06.
	Time for your Gitmo Nation media assassination episode 206.
	This is no agenda.
	Remembering D-Day and coming to you from the Hilltop Watchtower Crackpot Command Center in Gitmo Nation West in the People's Republic of Southern California in the morning.
	I'm Adam Curry.
	And from Northern Silicon Valley, it is indeed 06-06, show 2-06, and soon it will be the time six.
	I'm John C. Dvorak.
	Maybe a little less ad-lib there, John.
	I kind of...
	I botched it.
	It's funny, you know, I didn't realize it was D-Day until I saw...
	I think I saw it on Facebook somewhere.
	And I was like, oh, let me go to thewhitehouse.gov and see the president, you know, say something about it.
	Not a thing.
	This is D-Day?
	Yeah, today is D-Day.
	They don't tell us about it anymore?
	They don't care?
	I guess not.
	And my paternal grandfather, on my mom's side, Albert Schoble, actually a former German, he was in the Normandy invasion.
	He was there at D-Day.
	On what side?
	On the American side.
	Yeah, he was at Arnhem, a bridge too far.
	Dude had some major...
	I mean, I wish...
	I didn't know him until I was like...
	35 or something, or 30.
	Because my grandmother got remarried two or three times.
	And he passed away, let me see, probably 10 years ago, at age, like, you know, 97, in his comfy chair.
	He just, like, went to sleep.
	Yeah.
	Guy went through D-Day and R&M. Amazing.
	Hey, John.
	So, in the morning to everybody.
	All ships at sea.
	This is the No Agenda British Bread Corporation broadcast.
	And it is later than normal for people on a live stream.
	But luckily for people down under in Gitmo Nation there, it is actually in the morning that we're doing the live show.
	Yep, it's a good thing for them if they can handle it in the morning.
	And I have to say, it happens from time to time, and I do get called out for it when we make a really big mistake, and I think I have to do a little mea culpa here.
	I made a big boo-boo, John.
	What?
	Well, you'll recall not once but twice did I say, after relating the story of a fox stealing my daughter's shoe, I said, hey, you know, the next headline will be Fox steals baby.
	I was wrong.
	It's two babies.
	You didn't say steal, you said they'd attack or eat.
	Eat.
	My email box is like filled with people saying, oh my god, do you like write the news before you make it happen?
	Yeah, we do that.
	And I'm like, wow, this is pretty amazing.
	So this happened in the United Kingdom.
	And it's funny, kind of like, as we discussed, twin girls injured in suspected fox attack.
	Although that's the BBC, the Times of London is now saying it was a fox attack.
	Um...
	Yeah, I guess the foxes are sneaking into these houses.
	Yeah, it snuck in through, because it was a really warm Saturday night in Gitmo Nation East, and so people had their windows open.
	The fox crept through the window, these two nine-month-old baby twin girls, and attacked them.
	And they have scratches on their arms, one apparently on her face.
	One has bite marks?
	No, wait a minute.
	What are these kids leaving these little girls alone with a fox for?
	Arrest those parents, I say.
	Call Child Protective Services.
	That's next.
	You watch.
	Anyway, so we were close.
	Yeah, no, I think that qualifies as a hit.
	Yeah.
	Let's go to the official score table.
	How are we doing?
	They're calling it a hit.
	Yeah, so far we have Brett Michaels winning Celebrity Apprentice.
	If only we could get some of the important stuff right.
	Well, I got another news story.
	I don't know if there's anything predictive about this.
	I mean, actually, we've predicted a lot of stuff.
	But we're not going to brag about it anymore because it's just ridiculous.
	I hate to say this, but the whole show would be nothing but us bragging.
	That's how good we are.
	John at Dvorak.org.
	So here we go.
	Okay, you got one?
	So it appears as if Stephen Hill, sword-wielding porn star...
	What?
	Dies after allegedly killing Tom Dong.
	Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute.
	Stephen Hill.
	Sounds like two stories.
	Stephen Hill, who once played Barack Obama in the porn spoof Palin Erection 2008.
	Oh, this wasn't Naylan Palin?
	No, this is a different one.
	This is Erection 2008.
	Okay, then I'm thinking of the wrong porn actor.
	I'm sorry.
	There's probably a number of Obamas in the business.
	They're going to maybe think twice about it.
	Because the way he died was kind of dubious.
	After holding authorities at bay supposedly for eight hours, I guess he must have a huge one.
	SWAT officers used a stun gun to end the standoff, said LAPD officer Bruce something.
	He jumped down off the cliff after he was tased and fell to his death.
	Oh, right.
	That sounds like a very serious case of two to the head.
	Totally.
	So that's not okay.
	I mean, you can't be tasing people who are on a cliff.
	That's just wrong.
	Yeah.
	That doesn't sound right.
	But if you were tased, how do you jump?
	When you're tased, you drop.
	You don't jump.
	I don't know.
	I haven't been tased lately.
	Maybe we've bounced off of something.
	Well, this is a very sad day for the pornography industry.
	This is bad news.
	This is a very sad day for the pornography industry.
	Yeah, they lost another Obama.
	And, uh...
	Okay.
	This is not good.
	No.
	All the good ones have to go first.
	This is horrible.
	The good die young.
	So, there's a couple things we definitely have to get into, but perhaps we can talk about.
	Do we have executive producers?
	Did anyone support us for this show?
	Yes, and let me get to them immediately.
	This is what I call immediate.
	Okay, we've got two executive producers, followed by an associate executive producer.
	Okie dokie.
	And again, the two guys are 333.33, the lucky number.
	Yeah, their lucky number, and they're loading up on their triple play for an automatic knighthood.
	One from Gloucester, Ontario, is Howard Johnson.
	And he wants to be a de-douched member of the choir, plus a down payment on knighthood.
	You've been de-douched.
	All right.
	With that one there, Howard.
	He's good to go.
	Yeah.
	Hojo.
	Hojo.
	We have Hojo.
	And then Jason Chomel.
	Chomel or Chomel.
	I think it's C-H-O-M-E-L. From San Diego, California.
	Another 33333.
	Dear, hello, Jason.
	Oh, my goodness.
	You've been deduced.
	With the affixed donation, my first step toward night, another one very similar to the other one.
	It's funny, funny.
	And then our associate executive producer, and I'm not absolutely sure this may be the first female associate.
	Well, no, and we have ladies.
	We have ladies and knights, but I don't know that they came in when we started the producer program.
	Okay.
	So Deborah Hutchinson from Mooresville, Indiana.
	216.
	Oh, this is, yeah, from Zydeco's restaurant.
	They donate 10% of Wednesday's takings.
	Or Thursday.
	If you mention no agenda.
	On any Wednesday, yeah.
	If you mention no agenda on any Wednesday or Thursday, you get 10%.
	Oh, that's it.
	10% of your check goes to no agenda, and you get a gift certificate for your next visit.
	Go to zydecos.net for menus and directions in, is that Mooresville, right?
	Yeah, Mooresville, Indiana.
	Yeah, and that's z-y-d-e-c-o-s dot net.
	I really hope we can get to Indiana one of these days, John.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, I would like to go.
	If I go to Chicago, I'm going to make a point of going down there.
	That would be so awesome.
	We have so many.
	Mickey and I were talking about you and I, and of course she'd come along because she'd be our impresario.
	She says, we've got to go to Australia.
	I said, we're crazy if we don't go.
	We're having breakfast.
	Yesterday morning, of course, I had a fantastic day because I didn't have to prep at night or anything like that.
	So we had breakfast.
	There's the Earth Cafe in L.A. It was like crazy busy with tourists and went next door.
	There's a couple of Australian people, you know, like older people with their son who apparently lived in Los Angeles.
	And I was looking at his plate and he has a really amazing cheese plate.
	And I said, excuse me, what is that on the menu?
	And so I hear he's Australian.
	And I said, oh, and of course, like my grandfather, you know, I'm getting old now.
	Hey, are you people from out of town?
	And she goes, yeah, yeah, we're visiting our son here.
	I said, oh, welcome to Los Angeles.
	I love Australia, and I told them a little bit about the documentary, and I did.
	And I just looked at these people, and I knew that if I laid out the, hey, by the way, everything's cool there except for that dickhead Kevin Rudd, and I nailed it.
	You know, the old guy's like, ah, don't get me started!
	He just went off.
	He's like, oh my gosh, there's some hate for that guy down there.
	Yeah, and there's probably the number of Americans who even knows who he is.
	That was probably surprising to them, yeah.
	Anyway, thank you very much to our executive producers, Howard Johnson, Hojo, and Jason Shomel.
	I think we should just say Shomel.
	It sounds kind of classy.
	And our associate executive producer, Deborah Hutchinson.
	And, of course, the series producer for the month of June, Andrew McKinnon.
	Thank you for the support.
	Everyone else, please go out, propagate the formula.
	Our formula is this.
	We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
	Hell yeah!
	And get ready to all say it together.
	Everyone in the chat room, refresh your radio.
	And scream at the top of your lungs.
	Shut up, sleep!
	And I want to remind anyone who wants to be an executive producer that if you go to No Agenda Show or Dvorak.org slash NA and go to the donations link, there's a special thing you can check.
	You can go in and do it that way.
	And you will get, anybody over $200 gets to be an executive producer.
	Yes.
	No knighthoods though today, correct?
	No.
	And you might as well remind them what good the executive producer title is.
	Well, it's extremely good to get you gigs.
	So you can put it on your resume, in your email signature.
	I see it come by all the time.
	It's also good for me when someone has it in there.
	They say, Executive Producer or Associate Executive Producer of No Agenda Episode.
	They give you the episode number.
	And it is recognized.
	It's a credit.
	You know, last night, Mickey has a SAG member.
	She gets special deals on stuff, besides great health care.
	There's these free screenings at the Directors Guild of America.
	I mean, if you can get into one of these, it's amazing.
	First of all, it's free.
	But it's a theater the way a theater should be.
	The screen is fantastic.
	There's not a bad seat in the house.
	The sound is just amazing.
	It's tweaked.
	Everything is the way it should be.
	Because let's face it, directors do their screenings in this theater.
	And there's a couple of rules.
	One is, you know, no food, no popcorn, no talking during the movie.
	Shut up.
	Although last night's movie, there was lots of talking and laughing, but it was okay.
	And also, you are not allowed to get up until all the credits have rolled, which I think is cool.
	And there's a real respect for the movie.
	Now, of course, last night, it was Sex and the City 2.
	Well, hold on a second.
	Yeah.
	You went to see Sex and the City, too?
	Yes, and I have a recommendation.
	Yeah, I have one, too.
	Okay, mine first.
	If you are currently in a relationship, I warn you now, guys, do not go to this movie with your wife, your girlfriend, your spouse, or even your boyfriend.
	Only discussion can come from this movie.
	It is not a good idea.
	Stay away.
	Bad.
	There's nothing but things to talk about afterwards.
	Well, I think that's good advice for people in a relationship.
	My advice for people not in a relationship is not to go to this movie.
	It's really bad.
	Just let the women go to it by themselves.
	Try to keep them from going.
	Tell them it's better on DVD. The thing is, it's two hours and 15 minutes, and it's like...
	That's too long for a 90-minute movie.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	And it's like three stories in one.
	It was just like, what?
	And it's an insulting movie.
	Anyway, don't get me started.
	Why is it insulting?
	Go on, give us the spoiler.
	That'll do it.
	No, I don't want to talk about it.
	Okay, that's enough.
	It's insulting on so many levels.
	Intelligence at the top.
	I didn't see the first movie.
	I mean, I watched Sex and the City's Casing once in a while, and I thought the whole thing was...
	Well, they tried to put a storyline into it, and they tried to, you know...
	It's okay if it's just all gay stuff and fashion stuff, and I can handle that.
	Then don't put relationship stories in and stuff that's going to just beget conversation later.
	Anyway, so the big news coming out of the global government is a report from the Council of Europe Parliamentary Assembly, better known as PACE, Would you believe it, John, that after how many years have we been harping on swine flu?
	How many years have we been?
	Actually, we started harping on swine flu.
	I started harping on it first, I think.
	Yeah, on the same show, but I jumped right on.
	I was only a millisecond behind you.
	Yes, not much behind you.
	It's not like I took a show off.
	I have, but I didn't do it that day.
	You caught it right at the beginning, and you did, and you made a point of saying you're calling it as bullshit.
	As soon as the first story hit about the pig farm in Mexico...
	Yeah.
	So, the report that came out says, well, as it turns out, the scientists at the World Health Organization who are responsible for identifying, raising the threat level to pandemic level after changing the definition of a pandemic...
	Turns out they had rather close ties to manufacturers of vaccines and antiviral medicines such as Tamiflu, which they did not publicly disclose.
	Wow.
	What a stunner.
	And then Margaret Chan.
	And we have to mention, by the way, we also talked about the fact that we were getting reports from people pointing out the fact that these pharmacies were getting kind of semi, not quite, but almost expired Tamiflu during the panic.
	So they could dump it up, you know, get it out of there.
	Get rid of it.
	Get rid of it.
	Get it out of inventory.
	So this woman who you really dislike, Margaret Chan.
	Yeah, Miss Swan.
	Yes.
	Said, well, you know, yes, we have, of course, everyone, we always ask for disclosures, always ask for disclosures.
	However, however, the committee members...
	They couldn't disclose it, and the reason why is to, quote, protect the integrity and independence of the members while doing this critical work, but also to ensure transparency by publicly providing the names of the members as well as the information about any interest declared by them at the appropriate time.
	She says, I do not...
	I think...
	Their decisions were driven by the existing and evolving conditions at that time, and what the best scientific information was telling us.
	It's very easy to look back through a 2020 lens and essentially be an armchair quarterback.
	Dude, we were calling the game from our armchair as it unfolded.
	We weren't looking back.
	Wait, was that a quote from Chan?
	Chan, yeah.
	Chan, whatever her name is.
	She said the word armchair quarterback?
	Oh yes, oh yes.
	She doesn't even know what football is.
	It's their PR company.
	It's probably Hill and Knowlton.
	It's bogus, yes.
	Probably one of these guys because she's from Hong Kong.
	What does she know about the term armchair quarterback?
	What a crock.
	Well, we have a jingle for that.
	Bullshit!
	Addressing the possibility of industry influence.
	Actually a stinger.
	Yeah, a stinger.
	Addressing the possibility of industry influence on the World Health Organization's decisions, the spokesman said, so this is the spokesman, unidentified, the World Health Organization based its decisions on strong public health considerations.
	I don't think there was any indication from our perspective that their decisions were influenced by industry in any way.
	Shut up, slave!
	I'm the spokesman.
	I'm a spokeshole.
	A spokeshole.
	We've got to start using that.
	It's a new one.
	You like it?
	Spokeshole?
	Yeah.
	It gives you kind of a visual.
	So now, of course, we really need to call a couple of things into question, such as, why did everyone jump on board?
	Why didn't we have our fabulous scientists in the United States and around the world question this?
	And these are the same people who are bringing you the war against salt, the war against alcohol.
	Maybe those reports and studies aren't so good either, or maybe they have some ties to people that they should be disclosing, which they're not.
	Yeah.
	But no one, of course, does that.
	And then, of course, the new scientist just today, you know that guy, that idiot who did the denialist book?
	Oh, yeah.
	He's like, I don't know, he's got these other guys picking up on this concept, and they're writing, there's a scientific explanation for denialism.
	The science is in!
	And this article, I just found it, I just saw it this morning.
	It's just like, it's the same lockstep fascist crap, you know, where nobody can question the phony baloney information that's out there.
	And if you're on the site, everybody's in total agreement.
	And that kind of thing.
	Science is annoying.
	No, it's very annoying.
	And now you have to question all those people who stood in line and were frightened into taking a shot.
	Were they just guinea pigs?
	Do we know?
	Will we ever know?
	No.
	It could be guinea pigs.
	But, I mean, you have to question everything now.
	Of course, I've got a couple of links under swine flu in the show notes at noagendershow.com.
	If you see, like, the ABC News with George Stephanopoulos, I didn't see it today.
	I didn't see it today.
	It's from yesterday.
	It's douchebaggery.
	First of all, George Stephanopoulos, who died and made him Anchorman?
	And he's on Good Morning America now, too.
	It's just weird.
	So they do this whole story, and the only thing they're saying is, well, you know, it's down.
	Flu-like symptoms, which is the same as jobs saved or created, flu-like symptoms are down.
	So they couldn't even get enough flu symptoms.
	It had to be like flu-like symptoms.
	It's too late in the season, so it's summer upon us.
	Yeah, but they don't even mention it.
	I'm sorry, but what bothers me is if somebody actually was on one of these network shows and said, this is bogus, this is crap, this is bunk.
	They'd be fired.
	Oh, yeah.
	You're off the air.
	I mean, you're off the air for just asking whether Michael Jackson was murdered.
	I'm still waiting for him to call back and say, hey.
	Hey, thank you for giving us the tip.
	You got nothing.
	The planetary premiere of the news.
	No, that's all right.
	It's okay because now they're working on some new medication, John.
	It's not actually in the form of a vaccine.
	But of course, there's a pill now to help banish painful memories.
	Didn't we talk about this a couple weeks ago?
	I don't know if we did.
	I think we forgot.
	Yeah, I think it was on the list.
	So they've figured out that there's a protein called BDNF. You'll love this.
	Brain-derived neurotrophic factor.
	That can help you relearn painful association from stressful situations.
	Yeah, dehumanize you.
	Right.
	But, you know, they say, oh, this will be great for soldiers.
	Of course, we're going to be at war for decades.
	Keep them robotic.
	Yeah, exactly.
	Who knows what after effects, you know, after getting shot up with this stuff two or three times, what it'll do to you.
	Who knows?
	Yeah, you might go mental or something.
	Yeah, well.
	But everyone's like, oh, this is good.
	This is really awesome.
	Science is in on this one.
	Well, I was going to head in a different direction.
	Okay.
	So I've got a bunch of news stories that are cropping up one after another.
	Let me just read this one.
	January 12, 2010.
	This is like one of about ten incidents.
	A lot of these aren't getting played up enough.
	A lawyer was walking down Tremont Street in Boston when he saw these three police officers struggling to extract a plastic bag from a teenager's mouth, thinking that their force seemed excessive.
	For a drug arrest, he pulled out his cell phone and was immediately arrested.
	Oh, yes.
	This is the cameras as weapons meme.
	Yeah, and there's one that came in interesting.
	There's a bunch of them.
	There's that guy.
	Everybody in Maryland, if you take a picture, you're subject to arrest, even though the lawyers said they're enforcing a law that doesn't exist.
	So everybody's full of crap.
	But this is already law under Section 44 of the Terrorism Act in the United Kingdom.
	It's already law.
	You are not allowed to photograph a police officer.
	It's law.
	Section 44.
	And they can take you in without even having any reason to other than suspicion.
	This is where we're headed.
	Yeah, I know, I know.
	Nobody's doing anything.
	The public is not objecting to this.
	This is what's bothersome.
	Anthony Graber, a Maryland man who was arrested, there's another story, was arrested for posting a video of a traffic cop to YouTube.
	By the way, here's the deal.
	Get an account at YouTube that's anonymous.
	Go through a proxy server.
	By the way, we have noagendaproxy.com.
	Yep.
	Use that.
	It's a good proxy.
	Noagendaproxy.com is good for listening to the show in companies that can't.
	They get it blocked or in countries that have it blocked.
	Who knows?
	Anyway, Noagendaproxy.com.
	I think there's another one we have, too.
	We have it in their notes.
	Yeah, I got it.
	Anyway, Graber was pulled over on his motorcycle by a Maryland state trooper, Ulmer.
	Ulmer draws his gun during the stop for no apparent reason.
	Graber was wearing a helmet cam.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Graber thought Ilner's actions were excessive, and he posted the video to the Internet.
	Days later, police called the home of his parents.
	He was arrested, booked, and jailed.
	He was charged with violating Marilyn's wiretapping statute.
	In an interview he gave to one of the bloggers, he said that he told them that the judge, quote, the judge released me after he looked at the paperwork and said that it is seemingly violation of the wiretapping law.
	And then it turns out the judge did release him, dropped the case as a matter of fact, but that wasn't what happened.
	Graber's due in court next week.
	He faces up to five years in prisons because the state's attorney, Joseph Casilli, a douchebag...
	Yo!
	Whoa, whoa, whoa!
	Douchebag.
	He's also charged Graeber with possession of, but by the way, it's probably illegal in Maryland to call somebody a douchebag.
	Oh, yeah, we're still going to Gitmo, baby.
	Well, I'm not going to go to Maryland.
	He also charged Graeber with possession of an interception device.
	This is the new one.
	An interception device.
	Oh, wow.
	Do detail what that is.
	The device would be Graeber's otherwise perfectly legal video camera.
	Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha.
	Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha.
	This is great.
	Well, of course, the news is not going to report on this because they love it.
	It's like, yeah, get rid of those citizen journalists.
	Get rid of them.
	Yeah, we're the only ones who know how to do journalism.
	Get rid of them.
	We don't want that.
	Yeah, of course, the next thing you know, those guys will get clubbed by the same cops.
	But the cameras are a lot more expensive.
	Well, this actually came from Eric the Shill.
	The Federal Trade Commission, this is right along the same lines, although more anti-internet, is seeking ways to, quote, reinvent journalism.
	According to a draft proposal dated May 24th, the agency thinks government should be at the center of a media overhaul.
	The idea is...
	To save the industry, the industry, the news organizations...
	Oh, you mean the ones that couldn't see their own demise coming down Broadway?
	Exactly.
	With an arts band, they didn't figure it out?
	Give me a break.
	They need to agree on a mechanism to require news aggregators and others, the quote, and others, and we're basically news aggregators, to pay for the use of online content, perhaps through the use of copyright licenses.
	In other words, according to the Washington Times, government policy would encourage attacks on websites like the Drudge Report, and like it or hate it, the Drudge Report is definitely a source of news.
	It's an aggregator of headlines.
	It doesn't do anything more than that.
	And the other fact of the matter is headlines, which can't even be copyrighted as far as I know, like book titles.
	I could be wrong about the headlines, but typically speaking, book titles are not copyrightable.
	And I would assume headlines wouldn't be either because you can't, you know, most headlines are either redundant or they're used over and over again over the years.
	And most of these websites that are aggregators just have the headline.
	And then a link to the original site.
	What's wrong with that?
	Who cares?
	I mean, what's the big deal?
	I don't get it.
	The tax would hit other news aggregators such as DIG, FARC, and Reddit, which not only gather links but provide a forum.
	This is how stupid these people are.
	They're trying to tax themselves out of business.
	These operations, Reddit and DIG and all those other things, anyone who's ever had something linked to DIG knows this, gives you thousands and thousands and thousands of readers that you wouldn't have otherwise had under any circumstances whatsoever.
	So you want to tax them out of business.
	So your fading model, your fading business model, which is in the toilet already, is going to worsen because you're a fucking idiot.
	John C. DeVore acts at P.B. Day.
	Nice one.
	Well-timed.
	You know...
	This show would be a lot shorter if we could only do headlines, though.
	It would be a lot easier for us.
	We'd just be like...
	We'd be like, in the morning, John.
	Report.
	WHO overstated H1N1 threat.
	In the morning.
	Hope appeal to banish bad memories.
	In the morning.
	A couple of douchebags in there would help.
	So most of this is fair use that they're trying to tax.
	It's horse manure.
	Yeah.
	Well, but it's interesting because that's a draft proposal from the FTC. They've had a number of weird things, but it's just more internet bad.
	Get rid of the internet.
	Well, you know, here's my little prediction.
	This will crop up.
	It's already cropped up once or twice.
	It'll crop up over and over.
	They're going to try to license journalists.
	Oh yeah, because then you'll be official.
	Do you remember there was a time when you had an official international press card and you could not get in anywhere unless you had one?
	And I think that this was handed out by, I want to say like United Nations or the, wasn't it like a United Nations of press corps at one point?
	I don't know.
	It was like a red hardcover, almost like a passport size thing and that was your official press card.
	If you didn't have that, you weren't a journalist.
	Clearly you never had one.
	The problem is we have what's called a constitution and we have a bill of rights and in there it says there's a right to freedom of the press and it's not defined in such a way that it doesn't include blogs and everything else.
	Anyone can be a member of the press if they just want to report.
	Well...
	That's all it is.
	And I think that this freedom...
	I think that somebody should take on this camera thing as a freedom of the press issue.
	Because all the guy's doing is reporting on his situation.
	He's recording a cop standing there pulling his gun, waving it around like a big shot.
	And he's got it on tape.
	He puts it on YouTube.
	It's a news report.
	Well, how is this not a news report?
	So the report also...
	This, again, Washington Times.
	So I take this, you know, with...
	With some authority, the report also discusses the possibility of offering tax exemptions to news organizations, establishing an AmeriCorps for reporters, and creating a national fund for local news organizations.
	The money for those benefits would come from a new suite of taxes.
	A 5% tax on consumer electronic devices such as iPads, Kindles, and laptops that let consumers read the news, allow the slaves to read the news, And this could be used to encourage people to keep reading the Dead Tree version of the news.
	Well, this is the Washington Times.
	Other taxes might be levied on radio and television spectrum, advertising, and on cell phones.
	You know, we just got to keep our eye on this, man.
	This is the kind of stuff that, you know, you wake up one day and you're thinking about Lindsay Lohan and then before you...
	It's like, hey, wait a minute.
	I need a license for this all of a sudden.
	Well, you know, a license is like the British.
	Americans always forget that in England you have to have a license for a television set in your home.
	Yes, it's like 350 pounds a year.
	And that's for at least one television set.
	You can get one only for radio.
	For the wireless.
	Do you have two TVs?
	Do you have to pay for two of them?
	No, no.
	Just one.
	My poor daughter, though.
	This is how kids think.
	She has a big flat screen TV that was part of the household that got divided.
	So that's in her flat.
	And the aerial broke or something because she has that free view.
	So you can basically stick a wire in the air and you can get digital TV. But I guess the aerial broke or maybe something went wrong, no reception.
	And she got convinced that it's because she didn't pay her television license tax.
	And I'm like, baby, this is...
	Has she ever taken one science course in her life?
	Well, give the kid a break, but here's the worst thing.
	So then she goes, and she's like, okay, and she goes to pay for the tax, which is 350 pounds.
	She comes up like 20 pounds short.
	And so her card gets declined.
	I only found this out yesterday, because I keep telling her, do not waste your money.
	They don't know where you are.
	Who gives a crap?
	But because she did that and it got declined, she's receiving very threatening letters.
	We know where you are.
	Literally, you're in the database.
	We know where you are.
	You must pay now.
	So now she has to pay for it.
	So you were thinking that she could get away with not paying because she was in a block of places that they couldn't identify?
	Yeah, they have these trucks that roam around and identify.
	I know.
	I just wanted to save the kid a couple hundred pounds.
	Me, essentially.
	Now I've got to pay for it.
	Now you've got her in trouble.
	And if you don't pay for it, it's like a thousand pound fine or something.
	But that money does go to fund the BBC, in all honesty.
	That's what it's for.
	The British Bread Corporation.
	The British Bread Corporation.
	So I've been watching, now you were out, and I don't think you were watching, you were on some college drunken stupor weekend, whatever.
	I don't think you were watching a lot of C-SPAN, let's put it that way.
	No, but I do have a C-SPAN, coincidentally I have a C-SPAN clip that's kind of unique.
	Oh, can I do mine first?
	I don't, I'm not in a hurry.
	Okay.
	So, the President, you know, even his, as you know, I'm a big fan of the weekly address from our President, and he's in Louisiana, and he's doing it from a shrimping boat.
	And so the, yeah, I'm not kidding.
	Yeah, really.
	It wasn't a green screen?
	So the President...
	Was he throwing water in his face?
	No.
	Well, this is what's interesting.
	So the president's down there.
	The wind machine on.
	Let me finish.
	The wind machine.
	So the president's down there.
	He's down there for the past week.
	And, you know, it's all about shrimping and fishery and tourism and shrimping and fishery.
	And he's having some shrimp with the shrimping company.
	And, of course, it's horrible because of this oil spill.
	Yeah.
	There's no shrimping going on.
	And I don't know if they can't shrimp or they're not allowed to shrimp.
	It doesn't matter.
	The shrimping industry is completely destroyed.
	But what interests me is this little ditty.
	Now, it's about two minutes.
	I do want to play the whole thing.
	This is Representative Melankin.
	And he represents a parish.
	In Louisiana.
	And he sat down.
	It was on C-SPAN. It was really interesting.
	It was almost like a flip video cam.
	There was only one camera shot in a council meeting room or something.
	It was really kind of an unprofessional thing.
	So again, the scene all week long is the president's down there where the shrimpers are screwed, the seafood industry is screwed.
	And this guy actually tells it like it is.
	When you realize that the petroleum industry started in 1947 in Louisiana, that the drilling ban that has been called out, an immediate drilling ban, is actually going to, well, there's another representative here who says he's going to kill people.
	And that's probably the plan, he says.
	First, let's listen to this representative as he is talking about the atrocity of the drilling ban.
	And it's interesting to listen to that.
	Are you pleased with the federal government's response now?
	This is the C-SPAN reporter.
	Kim has suggested that we're tripling our assets.
	The thing, and this is me, and this is not for Congressman Melisand, but what's going to hurt terrible in Paris, the worst right now, is the moratorium and the ban on drilling.
	Please understand that Terrebonne has worked with the all-field and the seafood industry for years.
	A lot of people go from seafood to all-field, all-field to seafood.
	And right now, the economic impact on the fishing industry is survivable.
	BP has been coming in and making claims.
	We believe that the response is getting to be better, that we think that There's, at least if they can cap it, that there may be some hope for the future for our fishing industry.
	Our biggest problem right now is the all-field ban where they've discontinued drilling.
	Like 500 feet?
	500 feet is the maximum that they're letting.
	And we had somebody that was at 1,000 feet drilling in 1,000 feet of water.
	The other day, they only had 2,000 feet left to go, and they were told to cease and desist.
	All these rigs are very expensive.
	The Horizon was $500,000 a day.
	There's no way that it's going to be sitting around for six months, and what's going to happen, they're going to actually go to other countries.
	Once they're there, they're not going to move back at the end of six months.
	It's going to be a horrendous impact in our area.
	But right now, easily, we're going to have many, many thousands of people that will be impacted.
	And I'd be willing to bet that at least 60% of my parish, and I have 120,000 people, are directly or indirectly affected by the oil field.
	60%?
	60.
	That's what I would think.
	I would guess I would guess.
	Meaning employed?
	Or directly or indirectly.
	Understand they have all field people that work on the rigs, they have boat companies, they have catering companies, they have machine shops, fabrication yards that build the rigs.
	All of this is going to come to a screeching halt.
	And this is the critical thing.
	With BP or the spill, they have a resource to go to.
	On this moratorium, it's not compensable by anybody.
	So this is a loss that we're going to have.
	And this, the outfield drilling, is without question...
	Such a significant problem that it will affect my community and my parish more at this time than the hospital will.
	So then we have the St.
	Bernard Parish President, Craig Tafaro.
	I don't have audio from him, unfortunately.
	He says, quote, I would be betting the plan is to let us die.
	I think that's the plan.
	Yeah, and the guy comes right out and says it.
	He says, you know, they just want to kill us.
	I mean, so I don't understand.
	Economically speaking, what I'm hearing is, and of course it's just a couple guys, but they're parish presidents, saying, you know, yes, it's survivable.
	The seafood industry will get over it, but a lot of people, certainly in seasons...
	You know, the big money, and if you fly over, you know, this Louisiana coastline, I mean, it's all petroleum.
	I mean, that's what the industry is there.
	But why is everyone being focused on this?
	I mean, sure, it sucks what's happening, but you can't just, like, shut it all down for a number of reasons.
	One of them being people are going to starve.
	Yeah.
	I guess it's Obama's idea of a jobs program.
	Hey.
	So, I don't know.
	It's just a sorry situation.
	You know, one of the things...
	I don't know, it's just so poorly handled on every level.
	Everybody's an alarmist, you know, especially the people in Congress.
	Oh, and all the news media, they're running around like chickens with their heads cut off, like all hell's going to break loose.
	We had someone in the office the other day ask me the question.
	I won't say who it is.
	At our office?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Ask me the question, do you think they're going to be able to stop it?
	And if they don't stop it, will all the oceans just be filled with oil?
	Yeah.
	Oh, gee.
	I love Jersey Joe, but man.
	No, that wasn't Jersey Joe.
	That must have been Eddie then.
	No, no.
	That would be something Eddie might think, but no.
	It's a good guess.
	I love Eddie.
	Okay.
	It doesn't really matter.
	Yeah, people don't understand.
	The public is freaked out.
	I mean, the amount, how much it affects...
	And then, like, hurricane season has...
	Zero.
	You said something really good on Dvorak Horowitz on Plugged, where...
	And it's funny to hear Horowitz.
	He makes me laugh because he'd be like, well, you know, hurricane season is coming.
	And you went like, it's not like football season.
	It's not like on day one, all of a sudden, a football game starts.
	And then Horowitz immediately turns.
	He's like, your pussy.
	He's like, yeah, you're right.
	Yeah, well, yes, of course it's not.
	I was like laughing.
	You should listen to that bit again.
	It's genius.
	It's genius.
	But anyway, yeah, no, that is the point.
	Hurricane season, yeah, it starts when we're going to see a hurricane in the next 10 years for all.
	We know we can see a thousand of them.
	I mean, it doesn't mean anything.
	It's meaningless.
	So what you're saying is that, no, the oceans will not be ruined by this oil.
	No, you can't do the math to make them ruined.
	Somebody's got to do some calculations here.
	I mean, it's going to be a mess in that area, and if a hurricane does come through, nobody knows what's going to happen.
	It may actually just distribute the droplets of crap all over this, you know, everywhere from all of Louisiana throughout the Mississippi, Alabama, for all we know.
	One drop or two, like bee droppings.
	Who knows?
	It could make a worse mess.
	It may clean it up.
	I mean, nobody has a clue.
	So I did hear a very crazy story about how this all went down.
	A total nut job conspiracy.
	And I actually have it linked.
	We can put it on noagendatv.com because it's a YouTube video.
	Here's the story, how it went down.
	That BP, which in this story claims is actually owned by Shell, and I'm not quite sure how that works, and I didn't do any of the research.
	Doesn't sound right.
	Doesn't sound right to me either, which is why my hairs went like, hmm, okay.
	But, you know, Queen Beatrix of the Netherlands, she's a very wealthy woman, and she's, of course, a Bilderberger and a global elitist, and just don't like her.
	And...
	So what the story is is that the Transocean was there drilling so deep they were drilling down into the vein that actually is a part of the oil in Bolivia.
	And that that is a Halliburton well in Bolivia.
	And that Halliburton got all pissed off that they were basically tapping out their oil at that depth that then they sent Blackwater over to go blow up the Transocean.
	That's a beauty.
	I thought so too.
	I'm like, well, you don't know, man.
	If you're at like 30,000 feet, who knows?
	You could be drilling into Australian oil for all I know.
	Wow.
	But I do know that where they were, the vein, I think I mentioned this before, is like on some...
	It would be longitudinal or latitudinal.
	Parallel that the pyramids are on and there's all kinds of geographic stuff.
	But I thought that was kind of interesting that this is actually the oil cabal fighting it out amongst themselves.
	You never know.
	So that guy who owns Transocean, and there's a clip of him on the blog, dvorak.org slash blog, Dancing with a bunch of Hindi, you know, Bollywood actresses on the stage of, I guess, his board meeting or his shareholders meeting or something.
	Oh, really?
	Stephen Newman?
	Yeah, did you see it there?
	Hold on a second.
	That looks pretty good, actually.
	Performs a Bollywood dance.
	I'll tell you, the girls are gorgeous, but this guy's an idiot.
	Okay, hold on a second.
	Why does the CEO do this?
	Okay.
	Because he's going to endear himself to somebody so he can go out there and look like a fool?
	Okay.
	Well, I'm waiting for it to play.
	TransOcean President and CEO Stephen Newman performs a Bollywood dance after the company's Indian Division achieved top safety warning targets.
	Oh, totally.
	Come on!
	All right.
	Oh, yeah, the girls are hot.
	Holy moly.
	This is like...
	This would be like Steve Ballmer doing this.
	Why do white guys do this?
	Ballmer has a track record for doing stupid stuff.
	Why do white guys do this?
	I don't know.
	I mean, I think it makes you look foolish.
	And what's the point?
	Does making yourself look foolish and endearing to anybody?
	Oh, what a character.
	Oh, he's so cool.
	It's just one of the...
	Probably all of his Russian friends in the audience.
	Eh.
	Eh.
	But I'll take number two, the girl on the left.
	Which one do you want, Vladimir?
	I'll get the one on the other side.
	Meanwhile, Russian President Dmitry Medvedev Saturday called for a global fund to fight ecological catastrophes.
	Yeah, that's what we want.
	More global stuff, man.
	He said the global fund was needed to insure and re-insure against the risk of such disasters.
	In some cases, the richest companies and even the big countries would not have sufficient funds to fight their consequences.
	This is like, he's just pile jumping now, eh?
	And by the way, this issue will be raised at the G20 Summit in Canada later this month, where they're spending, what, a billion dollars in security?
	What a waste of the taxpayers' money.
	Yeah, it's...
	Hey, guys, you know, if you went to Iceland, to Vestman Island, for example, and had your meeting there, you wouldn't have a lot of protesters.
	I think you've got to be careful, man.
	These Icelanders are pretty pissed off still, so...
	Well, you'd have some Iceland protesters, but, you know, they'd rather drink at the bar on Friday nights.
	No, I disagree.
	I think the...
	Okay, well, let's think of some other places.
	There's places you can go in the world that you won't have to have this sort of security.
	Yeah, like Catalonia.
	You can go to Sigges in Spain.
	Oh, I'm sorry.
	The place is already booked by the Bilderbergs.
	Well, they don't stay there for that long.
	And the Bilderbergers have some outrageous amount of security.
	Money's being spent, too.
	It's ridiculous.
	Yeah.
	Can these guys maybe develop some secret meeting or something?
	I mean, they'd have to advertise the thing.
	From what I understood, Bill Gates is attending this year, but he...
	With the Bilderberger?
	Yeah.
	Why?
	Why?
	It's a drinking club, John.
	He likes to drink.
	Why?
	Because he's the chief eugenicist.
	His idea is to kill everybody.
	This Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation is no good.
	Until we get into the educational report I've got coming up.
	But he went to...
	Yeah, right.
	Along with your book.
	So he went to a...
	These things get done.
	He flew in.
	He said, yeah, I'm going to a medical conference.
	And there was no medical conference.
	He said, well, no, I'm actually here for the Bilderberg meeting.
	It like faked.
	It faked it was going to a meeting because no one wants to show up.
	The elites are now afraid because people are standing around and yelling at them and taking video and they don't want to...
	No, that's what they should do.
	Have the thing in Maryland.
	You can't take video.
	You can't stand around.
	Yeah.
	Well, why do you think they're making these cameras illegal?
	Yeah.
	Oh, there's a cop next to him.
	Oh, you can't videotape him.
	No, that would be illegal because it's a weapon.
	I see the cop's beating the crap out of that guy.
	Now he's kicking him.
	Oh, you can't.
	No video of that.
	No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
	So the only thing, and I do just want to touch on Bilderberg for a minute because this is the first time that I can remember that we're really seeing some real reporting, more in Gitmo Nation East Press.
	I mean, it's not like you're seeing this on the nightly news.
	I mean, they could just say...
	Hey, you know, the Bilderberg meeting is going on and all these luminaries showed up.
	You know, that would be a fair report.
	You know, they don't have to say anything.
	They don't even do that because, you know, the first rule of Bilderberg is you don't talk about Bilderberg.
	But the thing that galls me is that you have these top guys from like Time Warner, NBC, you know, lots of media companies, and they go there, but there's no reporting.
	You know, that's lame.
	That's like signing a non-disclosure agreement.
	Yeah, we'll come to your meeting, we'll talk about whatever, but we promise not to report on it.
	I mean, that's bogus.
	That's just bogus.
	I think it's unconscionable for a journalist to sign a nondisclosure under any circumstances.
	Well, so I'm sure that this is...
	I mean, the nondisclosure here is like, listen, you will not talk about it or else...
	You catch my drift?
	Well, that would be...
	I would sign that, yeah.
	Yeah.
	Alright, how about your C-SPAN clip?
	How do you like my microphone, by the way?
	I don't know, but your volume dropped to like nothing.
	Oh, really?
	I want to thank the producers of this program because I totally purchased this microphone with your funds.
	And I shall purchase pantyhose to go with it next.
	I use the pop filters that are made out of a mesh that has an angle to it.
	I'm trying to figure out how this stuff works.
	I think the pantyhose works pretty good, but these mesh ones are better because I think more sound comes through.
	It doesn't muffle it.
	But what it does is it takes the angle of the puffing.
	Where you're popping your piece.
	Oh, and it deflects it.
	It pushes it down.
	That's where they have to actually be about four inches away from the mic.
	Yeah.
	Well, I have the...
	Because I had it up too close and it was popping the piece.
	How's this thing popping the piece?
	It's because it wasn't far enough back to push the air down.
	Right.
	No, I have just the old school.
	It has a swan neck on it, and I just can't find it.
	It's somewhere in one of my boxes.
	It's what we do, so you don't have to.
	C-Span.
	C-Span.
	What was the point of playing that?
	That's your cue for your C-SPAN clip.
	Oh.
	Okay, well I got the guy, his name is, what's it say on there?
	Wizak?
	Wizak?
	Wizak.
	Wizak.
	I just spelled it wrong.
	Wizak is the Department of Agriculture guy, and besides the fact that he keeps using the word opportunity, listen to him.
	Isn't this the guy from Monsanto?
	Well, he's the guy from Iowa, and I think he may have been...
	Look him up while you were playing this clip.
	He has got the...
	Essentially, this is the beginning of an interview with him on C-SPAN, but I found it interesting because when he kind of introduced himself off of a very lame question, he listed all the talking points that we can expect over the next year or two, which include taxing the farmer to death, But not calling it that, calling it an opportunity, because we're going to have, you know, cap and trade, energy taxes, all these other things.
	We're going to have bigger farms, and then he twists his words around on the way, what a big farm is, and how we should get to know our producers.
	It's just a crazy, twisted, opportunity-ridden bunch of talking points that just, I just don't see any hope with this administration or this clown.
	Where you're leading this effort and why.
	Sure.
	The summit was an opportunity for us to first and foremost educate America about the important role that rural America plays for all of us.
	It is the supply of inexpensive, affordable, quality food.
	It's the supply of water that we drink and rely on.
	It helps to make us energy independent and at the same time it's a substantial percentage of our military comes from these small towns.
	So it's important That there be a vibrant economy in rural America to support families.
	Sadly, for the last several decades we've seen a decline in rural America, an aging population, persistent poverty, a fairly significant distinction between per capita income.
	And so the Obama administration has decided to put a new framework in place to sort of revitalize the rural economy.
	And it's based on a couple of fundamental principles.
	One is that production agriculture is important to the country and it's important to rural America, so we have to continue to expand markets both domestically and foreign.
	That's why our Know Your Farmer, Know Your Food effort is trying to link people with local production and local consumers.
	Does he work for Whole Foods?
	Well, the one thing he says when he talks about production agriculture, he's talking about the big farm.
	Yeah, he's talking about big factories.
	Yeah, factory farms.
	And then he slips over right to the next sentence.
	He says, that's why we're pushing production agriculture.
	And then he says, that's why we're pushing know your farmer, know your producer.
	Which makes no sense.
	It's almost a non-sequitur.
	He's just throwing these things out.
	He talks about water.
	He talks about families.
	He talks about the military.
	I mean, he's throwing every buzzword he can.
	Says opportunity a few more times, as you'll see.
	And it's just like...
	Is this whole administration just a bunch of blowhards?
	They have two agendas.
	One is to screw us with cap and trade.
	And the other one is to just, you know, tax, tax, tax.
	Know Your Farmer, Know Your Food effort is trying to link people with local production and local consumers.
	We recognize that there's a 21st century infrastructure that needs to be expanded in rural America.
	That's broadband technology.
	It's important that we expand the bio...
	Broadband technology!
	That's important, John.
	We need broadband technology.
	Energy industry.
	It's necessary for us to do a better job of working with conservation to make sure that those outdoor recreational opportunities are enhanced.
	And finally, this whole notion of ecosystem markets, carbon markets, water markets, are opportunities to put new capital into rural America, all of which designed to revitalize the economy and really give a sense of opportunity where we've been struggling for several years.
	Tom Vilsack has a glowing reputation as being a shill for agribusiness biotech giants like, oh yes, Monsanto.
	Sustainable ag advocated across the country were spreading the word of Vilsack's history as he was attempting to appeal to voters in his presidential bid.
	Apparently, he is a big fan of genetically engineered pharmaceutical crops, especially...
	Oh, there's a whole bunch of links here.
	I should drop that in.
	Yeah, this is the shill.
	This is the Monsanto shill.
	Tell me what it means, outdoor recreational opportunity.
	What does that mean?
	It's that little patch of grass.
	He says we want to make sure outdoor recreational opportunities are enhanced.
	Yeah.
	You put a toilet in there?
	I mean, what does that mean?
	I think he gets it.
	I think he deserves that one.
	Well, so meanwhile, what he should be addressing, and of course they brought in two reporters who are of the new era style.
	They can't seem to ask anything that's actually interesting.
	Now we've got...
	Superweeds, threat to mega-agriculture.
	Farmers across the South find themselves in an agricultural arms race with pesticide-resistant superweeds.
	Observers like Anna LaPay are pointing out that farmers and consumers are paying the price of agribusiness power to silence those pointing out the mere basic fact of evolutionary genetics, that plants evolve resistance.
	The advent of Monsanto's Roundup Ready Seeds, genetically engineered, blah, blah, blah.
	We know all that.
	Anyways, apparently some weeds are, like, getting through, and the next thing you know, they're breeding, and you can't kill them.
	And we're also finding other farmers complaining about these genes getting into all the different plants.
	And it's just a nightmare.
	This is a nightmare.
	Yeah.
	What can I say?
	Thanks for your support.
	You know what?
	Hit the real news.
	Well, actually, let's mention some donors.
	Okay.
	Since we're taking a break and we'll talk.
	I got that real news thing.
	That would be kind of interesting.
	Yeah, we need to get out of the bummed out mode for a moment here.
	Yeah, you know, we're depressing people.
	Yeah.
	So some people that apparently aren't depressed.
	Somebody mentioned a few people that donated, contributed, became producers and everything else in between helped us out on the show.
	We need your help.
	This is a user-supported show, a listener-supported.
	Pay us, donate, contribute, help us with volunteer work and the rest of it to do the show.
	We're not like the national treasure, PBS or NPR, which take money from big corporations.
	Right, and then gouge the listener.
	That woman who we always laugh about, who talks about advertising, call it whatever you want it, she was at the D conference.
	Yeah.
	And so they only had one little clip, so I'm hoping they'll release her whole interview.
	She says they have five revenue streams.
	Five.
	And I'm like, how does that work?
	What are they?
	Well, they would have government.
	Right.
	Then they would have straight-up advertisers like Ford.
	Right, which she calls underwriting.
	Well, no, that's underwriting.
	That's a revenue stream.
	No, she calls it all underwriting.
	Remember she said call it underwriting or whatever you want, advertising, sponsorship.
	That's one revenue stream for her.
	I think maybe she's to make her, I don't know.
	I have no idea.
	We have to find the whole speech.
	Yes.
	It was not a speech.
	She was being questioned.
	She was being questioned.
	Yeah, they put it like...
	What did they even put her on for?
	Did it feel good about our digital conference and bring in some public broadcaster?
	Yeah, I think it was that they're now doing partnerships with local newspapers or some hooey like that.
	Just to control it, I presume.
	Did she throw a Carbonite ad right in the middle of it?
	Your speech.
	By the way...
	Back it up.
	One of the things we've done here at PBS, we've had trouble backing up our system.
	We need to back it up.
	If you use the code, you know, whatever.
	Okay, so we have a bunch of knighthood layaway guys that came in this week.
	Again, of course, our old friend Travis Wynn, Chris Abraham, Tristan Lennon, and Mike Westerfield.
	And then donors include Casey Boatman, who gave us $50, Dean Carson from...
	South Australia, Australia 55.
	And he said he hoped this doesn't get me a job.
	It's kind of a twisted logic.
	But apparently good luck for him is not working.
	As in not working.
	Gertz Automation.
	Chad Gertz, actually.
	Chad Gertz from Vancouver, Washington.
	Hold on a second.
	I know what to do here.
	I'm prepared for this one.
	Stay with me.
	That's your cue.
	This is Victoria Gertz's 15th birthday on June 7th with the comment, whenever we go on a road trip, Victoria always insists we listen to No Agenda or else she will not go.
	Yes!
	She is a winner.
	Yes!
	Victoria Gertz, happy birthday!
	Oh, that's so cool.
	She has nothing but success written all over her.
	That's right.
	She will go on to great things And we have, I think, another birthday.
	I don't know if it's in this list.
	But anyway, let's finish off.
	We've got David Habedank in Placerville, which is a cool little town, who...
	I just...
	There we go.
	Hey, John and Adam, I'm donating in order to out Scott Sandstead as a douchebag.
	Douchebag!
	Let me be clear, though.
	I demand that any karma resulting from this will go towards finding Scott a job.
	Also, a woman and a fuller head of hair.
	Well, the hair thing we don't have much control over.
	We can get you laid, though, if you get a credit.
	If you get an associate producer credit, that does seem to work.
	You can put it on your business card and say, hey, how are you doing, buddy?
	Definitely.
	And let's see.
	Where was I? Anyway, so that's two nickels on the dime.
	Also, Raul Torres, Indianapolis, Indiana, two nickels on the dime.
	June 6th is his 38th birthday.
	When is that...
	On June what?
	6th, today.
	Oh my God, how old is he?
	He's 38 big ones.
	Well, happy birthday, my friend, from John and Adam and all your friends at the No Agenda Show.
	So he's got an interesting little thing that we have not documented.
	By the way, he wants to de-douche himself.
	Can you do that for him, please?
	You've been de-douched.
	He's pissed at the U.S. Commonwealth of Puerto Rico for making all birth certificates invalid if they're issued prior to July 1, 2010 in order to combat identity theft.
	This is a money-making scam at $5 a pop to get new ones by merely filling out a form and mailing a photocopy of your driver's license.
	Huh.
	That sounds like a complete and total scam.
	Yeah, it is.
	Because there's a good number of people that, you know, not everybody will get one.
	I mean, all I do is keep the old one and tell them to screw themselves.
	Really?
	But anyway, that's actually all we got.
	Good luck.
	Is that along while you're filming The Officer?
	Yeah.
	We do have one more birthday, I believe.
	Oh, really?
	Well, there's something here.
	Let me get it.
	Well, hold on.
	Pretty soon we're going to start requesting birth certificates and proof.
	Bye.
	The birthday is...
	Ivan is sending a note last show to Jayco.
	Jaco, it's his 35th birthday.
	He's in Croatia.
	First time donor for one and only reason is to my buddy Jaco's 35th birthday.
	I'd like to ask you to call him out as a douchebag.
	Douchebag!
	Since he hasn't yet donated and also congratulate him on his birthday.
	The Big Softie will appreciate it.
	Cheers from Croatia.
	Also, writer for Bug Magazine.
	The best in the world.
	Which magazine?
	Bug.
	Oh, is that what you write for too?
	Yeah.
	Oh, cool.
	Hey, Ziv Davis got sold.
	Yeah.
	Ziff Davis is a great magazine anymore, so I can say that Bug is the best in the world.
	Yeah, Ziff Davis is all online.
	Yeah, it got sold to a...
	I haven't found out the details yet, but it was just sold...
	An Indian guy.
	An Indian guy at an investment firm.
	He's buying up all kinds of media properties.
	Yeah, they're trying to create an online media megalith.
	Oh, boy.
	Well, you know, only just time before they buy us, John.
	Well, the problem is our business model is not appropriate for most of these people.
	It sucks.
	Yeah, it's not appropriate because it doesn't really make enough money for them.
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	And, uh...
	Yeah, sorry.
	So I've got a couple clips I've got, uh...
	Oh, is this the Real News segment of the show?
	I think I just want to do a Real News thing.
	I just thought it was a music.
	And now, back to Real News.
	Real News.
	So this was actually, I took this from the Jimmy Kimmel show.
	They had patched this together.
	It is a series, it's one show of, I think it's The Bachelor or The Bachelorette, one of the two with the differences I make.
	Finding usage, which seems to be getting very popular, of the word amazing in just one simple, you know, one show.
	show i mean apparently these people have a vocabulary of a seven-year-old okay at the end of this i'm hoping i am standing in some amazing place that would be pretty amazing i want an amazing husband absolutely amazing i think you're an amazing woman you look amazing amazing i think that's amazing please oh that's amazing this is just amazing it's amazing that's amazing paris is amazing that's amazing this night has been amazing you're amazing
	Yeah, I hear that a lot.
	Well, you're in L.A. That's where this comes from.
	It's amazing!
	Oh, it's just amazing!
	How did amazing become the word of the day?
	Because it's simple and easy to say.
	It's amazing!
	Say it with me now, John.
	Amazing!
	Yeah, it's just amazing!
	So GX2 can do a whole mix on us now.
	It's just amazing!
	I'm so amazed!
	It's amazing!
	What is the definition of the word amazing?
	It's amazing.
	It's like a word that you can use for anything.
	It's a bogus word.
	It's useless.
	Where does it come from?
	Well, it comes from the word amaze, obviously, and it means it's something singularly, outrageously wild and...
	To affect with great wonder, astonish, to, to bewilder or perplex, to cause great wonder or astonishment.
	Amaze.
	Amaze.
	So it seems to me as though...
	These people are just astonished at the drop of a hat.
	The Brits say that a lot too, by the way.
	Astonishing.
	It's astonishing.
	Amazing.
	Just amazing.
	It's absolutely amazing.
	I mean, I think amazing should be like when you see a UFO spiral over Eastern Australia.
	Oh, wait.
	That actually happened.
	Yes.
	That's amazing.
	You know, finding an amazing husband, first of all, forget about it.
	Certainly not you, lady.
	Yeah, did you see this video of the UFO spiral over Eastern Australia?
	Get Monation, man.
	They're on the map now.
	They had a spiral.
	Yeah, they had a spiral.
	Has anybody out there documented, any of our listeners ever seen one of these spirals?
	I would like to hear from them.
	Send me an email.
	Okay.
	Because these things could be all Photoshop for all I know.
	Well, yeah, could be.
	If you don't want to get to new...
	Are you going to talk about that a little more?
	We're going to do a deconstruction of a new story.
	Well, this is kind of related.
	This story...
	There's like four or five different stories in Australia about this spiral.
	A lot of people saw it, and there's YouTube videos of it.
	So I think that...
	I mean, it's a spiral.
	It's a spiral.
	And the headline, A mysterious ball of light seen across eastern Australia early yesterday may be linked to the launch of a private spacecraft.
	So we had our first private use of the Kennedy Space Center in Florida, a Falcon 9 rocket, which I don't know anything about.
	Whose was it?
	What was it carrying?
	I haven't done any research on it, honestly.
	But right after that, in Queensland, New South Wales, People started reporting a UFO spiraling, estimated at 20,000 kilometers per hour.
	I don't know who came up with that estimate.
	Going in a west to east direction.
	We're indeed consistent with a spent rocket grazing the Earth's upper atmosphere.
	But it looks a lot like, you know, a spiral.
	Yeah, well, you know, these are new, it seems to me, so there's something screwy going on, and maybe this has to do with the kind of motors they're using on these rockets.
	I don't know.
	All I know is that over the years, where I'm located, every once in a while, the Vandenberg Air Force Base, which is a missile launching place, they have some big ones.
	They launch some of the big boys.
	Yeah, secret shit, too.
	It's a lot of secret stuff.
	They shoot essentially over the Bay Area.
	I've actually seen it at least twice.
	I'd like to get a listing of it.
	And how come you didn't get video, John?
	How come you didn't grab your camera?
	Exactly.
	That's why people don't do it, because it's amazing.
	So anyway, you get to watch it, and you see it.
	It's like you talk about a con trail.
	This is a smoke trail that's like unbelievably big.
	It goes over, and you can watch the second stage go off.
	That's the cool part.
	Because it goes up, and it goes up, and it's just getting farther, farther away, and then you see a little bing, a little flash.
	And then the second stage takes off with a different kind of a plume.
	And the other thing, I don't know what happens to it, but it doesn't spiral by any means.
	It just, you know, drops down and crushes some poor guy in Gurneyville.
	So we have a 15-year-old listener from India.
	We have more than...
	We also have a 15-year-old that was a birthday.
	Yes, correct.
	But this 15-year-old is Rajdeep.
	And he says, by the way, I can't donate.
	Here's what he says.
	I love the show, want to donate soon, but I just don't have any money.
	money, plus I'm Indian.
	Which I thought was...
	Hey, you guys want to perpetuate the mini...
	Knock yourself out.
	So he says...
	I think it's a bad idea.
	He sends a couple pictures, and I asked him to send me the link to the second picture.
	Actually, it was his dad who got him listening to the show.
	And he says, my dad hasn't donated yet either, because guess what?
	He's also Indian.
	Seriously.
	And he says the Guatemala sinkhole, he says it looks exactly like these giant holes in Mars.
	And he sent some pictures, which I guess was NASA material, and I have to say it looks exactly the same.
	He's like, whatever they're shooting at Mars, they're shooting at Guatemala.
	I'm like, this kid will go far.
	This is a good little kid.
	Huh.
	Well, that sinkhole is still weird.
	So, we've got a letter from a guy.
	Unless you want to talk more about the spiral.
	No, I'm done with the spiral.
	I felt real good about this letter because we're actually teaching some people to look more carefully.
	Everybody I talk to that listens to our show, whether they like it or not, they always say, well, at least we're taking a more skeptical look at things instead of just, you know, we're not hooked like fish anymore.
	Right.
	So this guy came in with a little thing, and I wanted to go over it because I have some comments for him.
	Here's a headline.
	This is Jeff Wheeler.
	Here's a headline and subhead I saw on Reuters.
	And after learning from your show, how to identify one-sided reporting, I saw right away how biased and unfair this was.
	And he, I think rightly so, he feels that this has been slanted in the way it's told, the way the story's told, and we've talked about this before, toward a republic or toward a democratic slant.
	Here's the story, Reuters, with an eye on November elections.
	This is very short.
	There's only a sentence.
	With an eye on November elections, Republicans pounced on a weaker-than-expected jobs report on Friday to cast doubt on President Obama's economic leadership and questioned if his policies would spur enough growth.
	His interpretation, he noticed right away, says pounced like a kitten.
	It's a weak word.
	And this one I thought was really good.
	This was outstanding, this little thing.
	To cast doubt.
	The word to, with to cast doubt, implies that it was their intention and they didn't actually do it.
	Do it.
	Oh, very good.
	I thought that was his best hit.
	Words matter.
	And this, by the way, when we say words matter, this is what we're talking about.
	Spur enough growth.
	Unquote.
	The word enough here is doublespeak.
	Have you ever had enough growth?
	It's saying Republicans are so hard to please.
	So he alternatively wrote it as, with an eye on November's election, Republicans noted in a weaker-than-expected jobs report on Friday that cast doubt on President Obama's economic leadership and questioned if his policies would spur growth, which is a pretty neutral way of doing it, but I would slant it toward the Republican side just to be balanced.
	And here's what I would do.
	With an eye on November elections, Republican, instead of noted, said...
	Right.
	It's more statement-like rather than just something that's minor.
	Noted always implies, oh, they noted it.
	I noted it.
	Said a weaker-than-expected jobs report on Friday...
	Let's see, Friday...
	Yeah, it was Friday, June 4th.
	No, no, I'm trying to...
	He had the word that cast doubt.
	That would be eliminated, and I would go with a more active word in the past tense, casted doubt.
	So I'd go like, expected jobs report on Friday that...
	Friday, not that, but...
	Let me start over.
	Yeah, please.
	Republicans said in a weaker-than-expected jobs report on Friday...
	That cast a doubt on President Barack Obama's economic leadership and questioned, it should be, and questioned his policies, questioned if his policy would spur any growth.
	Now that would be the real slanted way of putting it.
	In other words, instead of if his policy would spur growth, if his policies would spur any growth.
	And then with question, you might want to take a look at using this usage, instead of Obama's economic leadership and question if his policies to, and now questioned if his policies would, and that changes it from past tense to what happened the other day to something more...
	Now it's become kind of a story because you have a past and it's moving toward the present.
	So you're creating kind of a movement.
	You're creating a drama.
	And it brings the readers in a little better.
	But this is completely slanted the way I wrote it, of course.
	So what I can't reconcile is all the financial reporting says weaker than expected jobs report.
	Yet the president is out at K. Neal International Trucks in Hyattsville, Maryland, saying, hey, it's working!
	We added 431,000 jobs!
	Applause!
	Fifth month in a row we've seen jobs gains!
	Applause!
	Jobs!
	Jobs!
	You know, it's just like, the front page of whitehouse.gov is like, what's the headline?
	It's a great headline.
	On the road to recovery, during the first month of last year, our economy lost an average 750,000 jobs each month.
	Now new job numbers show that even excluding temporary census jobs in the first five months of this year, the economy has created nearly half a million new jobs!
	But Wall Street says exactly the opposite.
	Somebody's wrong.
	Not the Ministry of Truth, John.
	Well, you know, if you lose 500,000 jobs and you create 400,000 jobs with a net loss of 100,000, you can still say you've created 400,000 jobs.
	Right.
	Anyway.
	Sliding down the hill.
	And these, of course, are census jobs.
	But first.
	Which we know...
	Yeah, and they're census jobs.
	Yeah, but they were firing people and hiring them three times over.
	Yeah, it's a scam.
	Yeah, a total scam.
	So the one thing that was disturbing this past week is I got several emails, a couple of tweets directed at you and I that we are racist, fascist assholes because of mainly your analysis of the flotilla incident.
	What flotilla incident?
	This is what it's called, the flotilla incident.
	The Israeli attack on the Turkish ship.
	Why are we racist to anything?
	Well, of course, but this is kind of the whole point.
	It's like there's this huge surge of people online and they're attacking.
	I mean, people are attacking each other quite viciously.
	It's all words, of course.
	You know, fuck the Jews, fuck the Palestinians, fuck Hamas, fuck Israel, fuck Turkey.
	It's like, we're all fighting.
	I think this is what the global elite want us to be doing.
	It's crazy.
	It's really, really crazy what's going on.
	People are getting so outraged.
	Yeah, they're balkanizing their thought process.
	You might want to play the intellectual discourse clip from Emmett Terrell, kind of the right-wing writer.
	One of the themes I didn't want to hit too hard in the book because it would just go on and on and on, is a theme of intellectual decline in this country, certainly in the culture.
	Not amongst engineers, not amongst doctors, but amongst journalists and people in the humanities.
	There's been an enormous intellectual decline, and I don't think...
	I don't think we want...
	I've given up on the culture smog, liberal media.
	I mean, you and I have been around long enough to know that there was a day when the Washington Post and the New York Times were interested in some disagreement.
	It took place in the 1970s.
	But by the 1980s, they found out they didn't have to enter into conversation with us.
	And you'll note at this table here, there's not a liberal.
	They wouldn't come.
	We couldn't invite them to engage us.
	I used to be a liberal.
	I know you are.
	You're a true neoconservative.
	But my point is, the intellectual debate in this country has become a monologue on one side or the other.
	And on their side, there's no way we're ever going to engage them.
	And I gave up on them a long time ago.
	The point I make at the end of the book is we've established our own counterculture.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, but he didn't go all the way with it.
	The fact is, it's more than just the two groups.
	Now you have the liberals and the conservatives that don't talk to each other, that are kind of like the Democrats and the Republicans generally.
	And then, because there's no peacemakers in Congress or in the culture, they just attack each other.
	And then you have these, you know, a lot of this, by the way, might stem from the Israeli-Palestinian impasse, which, when I was in college, you know, Decades ago this was going on.
	It hasn't changed a bit.
	And you would see at the University of California out there on Sproul Plaza, there would be these, commonly, there would always be, at least daily, one Israeli and one Palestinian standing across from each other.
	Yelling.
	Yelling at each other.
	It would get a little crowd, usually, and they would be talking over each other's heads.
	Neither one would be listening to the other.
	They would just be yelling.
	And that seems to have, this particular impasse just seems to be the theme for this millennium, I guess.
	I don't know.
	It's just the damnedest thing.
	But the fact that people would complain about anything we do...
	Which is to get to the bottom of certain things, especially when we make the assumption that everything is driven by PR companies and we have to kind of deconstruct it just to find out who those PR companies are and what else they're doing and how these hidden messages are placed within stories.
	The fact that we'd be criticized for...
	Not doing much more than trying to figure out what was going on on that boat is ridiculous.
	These people should go find somebody else to pester.
	It's interesting because the same goes, we got a beautiful email, I don't think you were copied on it, from a listener in Greece, Zenografos is his codename.
	And he heard my story about Taxi Eric in the Netherlands who was all pissed off about the Greeks and they got to send the Greeks 5 billion euros from the Netherlands alone.
	And this is also just an intellectual discourse.
	Are you interested in hearing from him a little bit about the real situation and what the real problem is in Greece?
	Let's hear what he has to say.
	So he says, okay, first, educational system in this country is appalling.
	Every aspect of critical thinking has been removed from the curriculum starting...
	Let me see, I might put my USA checklist down while you're...
	Yeah, exactly.
	See if we fit the bill.
	Okay, every aspect of critical thinking has been removed from the curriculum starting from kindergarten going through to university.
	Second, Greeks have been indoctrinated to accepting the idea and practice of socialism since the end of the military dictatorship in the early 70s.
	Greeks are taught very subtly that any other system will lead to a return of the fascist dictators.
	I don't think we have that here yet.
	Third, this is interesting.
	Up until the mid-90s, more than 60% of the workforce were government employees.
	We're on our way to that.
	60% of the workforce.
	More than 80% of businesses were nationalized monopolies.
	Sound familiar, John?
	Even private companies were, and in some cases still are, very carefully regulated.
	For example, the ratio of bakeries to residents in a town is fixed.
	Even if you want to open a bakery in your hometown, you can't unless someone else closes their bakery first.
	Wow, I didn't know that.
	That's interesting.
	Yeah, that's good for competition.
	Yeah.
	Fourth, salaries suck.
	A high school math teacher of four years of university under his belt has a starting salary of 860 euros about, well, when he wrote it, $1,000 a month.
	It's a little less now.
	A newly appointed police officer makes the same.
	The government even influences the salaries in the private sector by requiring social security premiums that are about one half of the salary amount.
	Fifth, unemployment is unreal.
	35% of people over the age of 30 are unemployed, and more than 20% of those have never been legally employed.
	Sixth and the last and salient point, taxation here is out of control.
	The lowest income bracket is 26% for a family of four with 20,000 euros in income.
	That's not a lot of money.
	But how do they calculate income?
	Listen to this.
	This could be things to come, John.
	We pay income tax not only on our income...
	But on the objective value of all our property, and I mean the objective value is determined by the government.
	By property, it's not just land.
	It's anything you own.
	If you have two cars, the government says that's equal to 5,000 euros a year of income.
	And they tax you on it.
	If you have a house of 100 square meters, which is a very small house, that is equal to some arbitrary amount of income which you're taxed on.
	We also pay 20% value-added tax on every purchase, luxury tax on cigarettes, gasoline, automobiles, and a thousand other things other Europeans take for granted.
	Even electricity usage is taxed to support state-run television.
	The place is a mess!
	That doesn't sound very good.
	No.
	So I think, and he's basically saying, hey, Taxi Eric, man, you know, we got some problems here that you're not aware of.
	But yeah, it's abhorrent.
	Ah, you got it in.
	Yes, I know.
	And I think, did I see Hungary now?
	Yeah, this one snuck up on...
	All of a sudden, Hungary's in the news.
	Like, what?
	I think it's a nothing-to-see-here thing.
	Could be.
	Trying to distract us from something else.
	I don't know.
	Hungry lied.
	They lied on their application.
	It's not true.
	They lied about their money.
	I'm like, whoa.
	Okay.
	Meanwhile, back at home, While you're mentioning the European Union, I've got one little item that I should mention, because this is really always, it makes me shake my head every time I run into this is happening.
	We've talked about this before, because we thought, at least initially, that the European Union was going to be the big holdout against GM food, but the European Union is to radically overhaul its approval system for genetically modified crops from next month, opening the way to large-scale GM cultivation in Europe.
	Yeah, they had already approved it, though.
	We already had that, didn't we, a couple months ago?
	Yeah, apparently there's some news that this is for...
	They're just going to basically open the door to Monsanto, Dow, and Dow Chemical, and Syngenta.
	Time to buy some stock.
	What's Syngenta?
	That sounds ominous.
	That sounds like a good one.
	Kill all the earth.
	I'm in.
	What's the share price?
	Yeah.
	So, also coming out of the World Health Organization, since we're kind of talking global stuff here, we talked about how the demon drink, as they call in their own report, the demon drink alcohol, which of course now we can't be sure if it really is a demon drink, because who knows?
	We could have a pandemic of demon drink pretty soon.
	But it's spreading to the United States, John.
	Michael Bowling from Santa Barbara, California.
	Hey dudes, I started listening to your show a couple months ago.
	Love it.
	I've not donated yet as I am a starving college student.
	Don't worry, we'll send some tasty GM snacks your way.
	I will be needing some No Agenda Karma soon.
	I was listening on Wednesday and was very intrigued with the topics concerning alcohol consumption.
	And by the way, I've got a guy on the inside who does the monitoring at the Interlock Company.
	And he's going to send me some details.
	How cool is that?
	Good.
	That's very cool.
	I'm a graduate student attending UCSB. That would be the University of California, Santa Barbara.
	If you know anything about us...
	UCSB also stands for You Can Study Buzzed.
	Is this true, John?
	Yeah.
	When they had the riots in the 60s at Berkeley...
	They didn't show up.
	No, the riots in the 60s in Berkeley were riots, but in Santa Barbara, the riots they had there, they...
	I remember there was a scene where there was somebody through, you know, there was cops coming every which way, and there was all these cans of tear gas.
	I was on the roof of a bank.
	Protecting it or drilling a hole?
	Onto the bank roof, and I couldn't understand why they weren't throwing it through the bank window.
	In Santa Barbara, they not only threw it through the Bank of America window, but they set the bank on fire.
	Uh-huh.
	And the Bank of America burnt to the ground and it became one of the top background images for personal checking accounts in the Santa Barbara area for about 10 years.
	Cool.
	So, we take great pride in our drinking, is his point.
	But, this county board of supervisors has been trying to curtail all drinking here in the little college town next to campus, Isla Vista.
	They have now gone way too far and are taking away our right to privacy and covenant to quiet enjoyment with this new social host ordinance, which is linked in the show notes, noagendashow.com.
	Basically, it gives the police the right to enter any private residence without provocation, That has five or more people gathered for a social event.
	Now, he says, I don't know if you know that.
	What?
	Back up and read that again.
	Basically, it gives the police the right to enter any private residence without provocation that has five or more people gathered for a social event.
	This is against the Constitution.
	Hold on.
	I don't know if you know what the housing situation is like here, but the rent is so high, most houses have six or more tenants just to be able to pay the $600 per person per month, about $3,600 per month for a three-bedroom apartment that was built somewhere in 1940.
	I think the No Agenda Nation should be aware of this ordinance so they can help put a stop to it and keep it spreading to other counties.
	Protect your right to drink and get fucked up, he says.
	In the morning.
	Mike.
	We're in the morning to him.
	Yeah, so here it is.
	Here's the news.
	County passes alcohol edict.
	Four to one vote.
	The social host ordinances, indeed, is what it's called.
	Keep a couple of Dobermans in the place.
	The new measure would impose fines beginning at $500 for a first offense and require hosts to take a county-approved counseling program, no doubt with something you've got to wear, and have a monthly fee subscription.
	The law also notes that hosts should check ID cards and insist that minors leave from their parties.
	Here it is.
	The fact is five people is considered a party or a gathering.
	That's pretty nuts, man.
	That's unbelievable.
	Let me just see if...
	I haven't looked through the whole ordinance, but that's also linked.
	Let me see if it's penalties, enforcement, why the ordinance is needed.
	Two reasons.
	Here's the ordinance.
	Law enforcement has inadequate enforcement authority to respond to underage drinking on private property.
	And the damage underage drinking does to developing brains.
	There you go.
	Oh, there you go.
	Developing brains.
	We're not going to college to develop our brains, you fools.
	They're the drink.
	In California, there's no law that makes it illegal for a minor to consume alcoholic beverages or to have alcoholic beverages in a place that is not open to the public.
	Yeah, with good reason.
	Without a law or ordinance, underage drinking in private places is difficult for law enforcement to address.
	No, first they do take you off the road from driving and drinking.
	Now you can't drink at home.
	That's right.
	The proposed ordinance will fill the gap in the law by prohibiting consumption of alcohol by minors.
	So that's all about the minors whose brains have to grow.
	Oh, here's what you do.
	Proposed ordinance...
	Violations, misdemeanor offense, possible fines up to $1,000, community services of at least 24 hours, jail time up to 6 months, with cost recovery for law enforcement response to rowdy parties.
	Excuse me, it just makes me want to puke.
	Oh my God.
	Unbelievable.
	They have a whole chart.
	Alcohol use last 30 days in Imperial County compared to national averages.
	Fifth grade, 7% used alcohol in the last 30 days.
	Seventh grade, 16%.
	The adolescent brain goes through dynamic change during adolescence.
	Alcohol can seriously damage long- and short-term growth processes.
	You can say that about any age.
	Alcohol has a damaging effect on the brain in some way, shape, or form if you drink too much of it.
	Frontal lobe development and the refinement of pathways and connections continue until age 16 and a high rate of energy is used as the brain matures until age 20.
	Damage from alcohol at this time can be long-term and irreversible.
	In addition, short-term or moderate drinking impairs learning and memory far more in youth than adults.
	Adolescents need only drink half as much to suffer the same negative effects.
	Don't be a denier.
	The science is in.
	Science.
	Here we go again.
	I don't have anything fun to play at the end of the show.
	Well, we're not quite done yet.
	There's plenty of other stuff.
	I know, but I'm going to be...
	Unless you come up with something interesting, we're going to have another depressing show.
	No, you shouldn't be too depressed.
	Although, this is a very interesting thing that is spreading.
	I also got a note from one of our younger listeners in Gitmo Nation East in the United Kingdom.
	He says, the end of Doctor Who...
	There was a link right there in the credits to bbc.co.uk slash headroom.
	So this is after Doctor Who, right?
	And you go to that website and it's about the demon drink.
	Alcohol.
	Do you feel you need to cut down your drinking?
	Drugs.
	Smoking.
	Improve your well-being.
	Weird.
	So Nelson Ferraro just sent me a nasty note.
	Who?
	He's one of our contributors.
	He says his wife was the associate producer once before.
	So we don't have the first associate producer woman.
	This is what you get.
	You've got to be very, very careful.
	Nowadays everyone's picky.
	I was very pleased to see that, you know, I told you that we're going to see more and more zombie stuff.
	And you said, no, zombies are over, no, the zombies have come and gone.
	I don't think so, man.
	Okay, what?
	Exercise class in St.
	Charles, Illinois.
	Zombie fit is this exercise class.
	What?
	Zombie fit.
	Where'd you get this story?
	Wired.
	To prepare for Z-Day, which is Zombie Day.
	Students do cardio, lift weights, and practice parkour maneuvers.
	You know what parkour is?
	No.
	It's like jumping over city walls and stuff, because you've got to be able to evade the zombies.
	So the survival workout is as follows.
	One, climb.
	Zombies aren't very spry, so climbing over barriers is a key evasive maneuver.
	Practice on a wall that's a little taller than you.
	Two, free fall.
	Jumping off a roof may provide temporary respite, but break a leg on landing and you're dinner.
	Cushion the impact by extending your legs and touching down on the balls of your feet.
	It's a whole zombie workout, man.
	For when everyone turns into a zombie and you need to evade them.
	It's just the beginning.
	You watch.
	It's just the beginning.
	More and more zombie stuff.
	I guarantee it.
	What was that movie?
	Actually, Eric would probably know it.
	There was a British movie, those two comics, and they were surrounded by zombies and they didn't even realize it for a long time.
	They just kind of killed millions of them.
	It was a zombie comedy.
	I saw the Woody Harrelson zombie movie, which I liked.
	No, this is something else.
	This was a...
	Actually, Eric should know it.
	Eric, you still there?
	Maybe not.
	Anyway.
	He'll come up with it later.
	I don't know.
	This zombie thing seems it should be over.
	But it doesn't...
	It's not, apparently.
	It's going to continue.
	I guarantee you.
	Nice to see the guardian of all newspapers, Christian Volmar, who is on the train beat...
	He should be a No Agenda listener.
	Shaun of the Dead is the name of the movie.
	Shaun of the Dead, no.
	You ever see that?
	No, no.
	Hilarious.
	Shaun of the Dead is what it's called?
	Yes, Shaun, S-H-U-N. People on the No Agenda book club, please put that on the movies that you must see.
	Okay.
	So Christian Volmar of the Guardian newspaper, communist newspaper, he actually calls it out.
	He says, the train policy goes off the rails.
	He says, what the hell is going on?
	He says, the coalition's pursuit of a high-speed line is baffling.
	And so he hasn't quite figured it out yet that this is obviously some money-making scheme.
	Everybody's in with Siemens or whatever.
	But he can't figure it out.
	He says, why the hell are we trying to...
	People can't even afford the slow train, let alone that we're going to build a high-speed rail, which is true.
	It's unaffordable.
	Yeah, the high-speed trains are not cheap.
	No, but even in Gitmo, it's impossible.
	It costs you a month's salary just to take the train.
	And they took the toilets out.
	Yeah, can't have toilets.
	No.
	So, 74 Democrats signed a joint letter to the FCC supporting internet throttling by Verizon, AT&T, and Comcast.
	What does that mean exactly?
	Throttling lets carriers slow or block internet traffic.
	This is a clear attack on net neutrality, obviously.
	House Speaker Nancy Pelosi just endorsed net neutrality, but the money party is...
	Busy burying votes.
	There's a top ten list of the biggest names.
	This is theagonist.com or.org.
	Throttling is where you, you know, you got some guy, hey, this guy's using a lot of bandwidth, don't you think?
	Yeah, let's cut him back.
	This is what happens when, you know, sometimes our Skype...
	Yeah, like with us.
	I'm sure it happens all the time.
	Hey, what's going on with these two jerks?
	Well, they've been on for almost two hours.
	You're kidding.
	What are they doing?
	Two hours?
	What are they doing?
	Pull it back.
	Pull it back.
	I will say that Memorial Day weekend they did send someone out from Time Warner Cable.
	Unsolicited?
	No, not unsolicited.
	No way.
	No, last Thursday...
	Yeah, it was a piece of crap.
	No, but then on...
	Yeah.
	It wasn't a piece of, it wasn't total crap, but during the upload of the show, my whole connection dropped and it was gone.
	It was gone and Sunday was the next time they could get someone out.
	Oh, so you didn't have any connection on Saturday?
	No, man.
	It was horrible.
	I was tethered on my iPhone.
	It sucks.
	Oh, that sucks.
	Yeah, it totally blows.
	And it's still weird, but then the guy comes out and he measures everything.
	And I was, because high frequency stuff, and I was like getting red, my signal here, and not, you know, it should be maybe a little yellow, but certainly green.
	And I guess the wires outside or something was corroded or whatever.
	Squirrels.
	Yeah, squirrels.
	And so we replaced a bunch of stuff.
	And I must say, now I do get a burst of 25 megabit download.
	But still, it's wonky.
	It still craps out from time to time.
	It was pretty good today.
	It's reasonable.
	But I think they've been doing that throttling all along.
	I think there's nothing new.
	I think they just do it whenever they need to.
	Whenever they feel like it.
	Yeah.
	Probably when we're doing a show.
	You're right.
	It's like, hey, that connection there, pretty constant stream.
	Hold that back.
	So, I have noticed one thing.
	If I keep on the other computer, if I keep an IRC open...
	They do much less sticking around with the Skype.
	It's possible that you can send a shadow signal or a smoke screen signal.
	And when they're all mixed up together, the deep packet sniffing probably is much more difficult to do.
	Well, I always have IRC open, and I always have a ping open, a continuous ping, so I can kind of just like a command line, so I can just kind of see the health of the network.
	And also, that's like, you know, I know when my network's down, because then I get timeouts in that one window.
	But, no.
	We're screwed.
	I mean, I keep telling everybody, please, you've got to make that mesh network.
	We've got to do something, because the day is going to be upon us, and we'll be like, okay.
	Oops.
	Wish we had done it.
	We should have done it earlier.
	Right.
	I'm going to tell you something now, too.
	We've talked about the strange symbolisms at Denver Airport.
	Right.
	Particularly that crazy-ass horse, the one with the red eyes that light up at night.
	Yeah.
	So they've just added Anubis.
	A huge Anubis.
	You know what Anubis is?
	Yeah, well, besides being the character in one of the Stargate shows.
	Yes, well, Anubis is the Egyptian god of death.
	Yes, the Egyptian god with the head of a duck or something.
	No, not really.
	It's like a dog kind of thing.
	So they have the 30 foot tall blue Mustang, which of course has been the talk of the town ever since it was put in there.
	Now they're installing a 7 ton, 26 foot tall concrete sculpture of Anubis.
	Why?
	It's on exhibit, June 29th through January 9th, 2011.
	It actually says here, the exhibit runs June 29th through January 11th, 2011.
	The Anubis will be standing guard during that time.
	Guard over what?
	The Egyptian god of death.
	I mean, are they just messing with us?
	The Egyptian god of death.
	The standing guard.
	Do I want the Egyptian god of death at the airport?
	Yes.
	This is more of the trains bad.
	Planes bad.
	Trains good.
	All aboard.
	Trains good.
	Planes bad.
	Woo-hoo!
	The Egyptian god of death.
	It's at the airport.
	What are these people criminally insane that run this airport?
	They didn't put it at Grand Central Station, you'll note.
	No, it has to go at Denver Airport.
	The thing is huge.
	It's a 26-foot-tall sculpture.
	Who comes up with this crap?
	Yeah, it's a copy of the original, I guess.
	Seven tons.
	Right next to the main terminal to promote the upcoming King Tut exhibit.
	Oh, is that what it's for?
	To promote the King Tut exhibit?
	Yeah, the Denry Museum, Art Museum.
	By the way, they had the King Tut Museum at this local.
	It sucked.
	It was horrible.
	It totally sucks, and the line is a mile long, and now you have to buy tickets.
	It was like a facsimile of the actual exhibit in London.
	There's an interesting little kind of foreboding.
	I'm going to read it from the same article on this Anubis character.
	Danubis is not far from the sculpture of the blue horse called Mustang by Luis Jimenez.
	The artist was killed in 2006 when a large piece of the sculpture fell on him in his studio.
	Yeah, I know.
	I think we talked about that.
	I'm laughing, but I'm not really that happy.
	There's just something weird about this whole thing going on in Denver.
	Get out of Denver, people!
	Radioactive, anyway.
	Do you remember, have you ever heard of Operation Blackjack?
	No.
	Because it would go along perfectly with all of this.
	Wait a minute, when is this thing on exhibit?
	June 6th.
	When does this thing go on exhibit, this Anubis?
	I think it's there now.
	It's already there now?
	So, Operation Blackjack was supposed to happen June 22nd, 2009.
	As predicted...
	What was this predicted?
	It was like a big conspiracy meme running around.
	It was in a movie as well somewhere.
	Anyway, Operation Blackjack is when nuclear bombs are supposed to explode in...
	Let me get the list for you.
	London, Los Angeles, Mexico City...
	And I think New York.
	Probably not Denver.
	Because that's where they all hang out.
	So now this conspiracy is back.
	That 2010, June 22nd is when Operation Blackjack goes into effect and the bombs will be popping off.
	Here it is.
	London, New York, Portland, Los Angeles, Toronto, and Mexico City.
	And this is on June 2010, this coming week?
	22nd.
	No, we have 14 days.
	Yeah, this month.
	Okay.
	Well, if I were you, then I would make the list of those cities and stay out of all of them.
	Yeah.
	Do you think San Francisco will be safe?
	Yeah.
	If it's not on the list, it's got to be safe.
	Los Angeles is on the list.
	Don't you think there'll be some fallout?
	From what?
	Yeah, there'll be tons of fallout.
	Everyone in the air will be killed.
	They have a great picture on this page of, I guess, Anubis...
	This statue, this is crazy.
	They have a picture of Anubis and the Statue of Liberty in the background.
	Where the hell was this from?
	So they're tying this in somehow to this Anubis is the symbol that Operation Blackjack is now going to take place.
	Oh, well.
	Nice knowing you, John.
	It's another date that will come and go, like the giant flying saucer that was supposed to land a couple years ago in Brazil or something.
	It wasn't going to land.
	It was just going to make itself...
	It was just going to appear.
	Hover.
	It was going to hover and make itself known.
	A girl can hope, can't she?
	Okay, so we have to assume, so the blackjack thing reappeared, so that means a movie has to be coming out within the next five or six months, or maybe they'll be announcing it shortly, that has pretty much this kind of thing, right?
	Yeah, so we'll keep our eye on it.
	So can we do the show at a normal time on Thursday?
	Thursday?
	Okay, I'll tell you what.
	Let's do it in a normal time.
	But it won't be until next Thursday.
	No, but we'll do it in the morning.
	Yeah, absolutely in the morning.
	Okay.
	But hello to Australia from afar.
	And should we really plan a trip?
	I would really like to do that.
	Well, let's start working on it.
	Seriously.
	Yeah, well, we've got people that can help us.
	Well, let's do the night rings first.
	What do you think?
	I'm working on them right now.
	Yeah, okay, right.
	Alright, my friends and ships at sea, coming to you from the Hilltop Watchtower Crackpot Command Center in Gitmo Nation West in the People's Republic of Southern California.
	It's been my pleasure to be with you.
	My name is Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley, where the weather's actually quite nice, and horns honk, ducks quack, geese honk, seagulls do whatever they do.
	I'm John C. Dvorak.
	We'll talk to you again on Thursday at our regularly scheduled time, 9 a.m.
	Get Moment Nation West time in the morning, right here on No Agenda.

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