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194: Blood Trains

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	Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak.
	It's April 25th, 2010.
	Time for your Gitmo Nation media assassination episode 194.
	This is no agenda.
	Being forced to take a train instead of a plane.
	And coming to you from the Hilltop Watchtower Crackpot Command Center in Gitmo Nation West in the People's Republic of Southern California in the morning.
	I'm Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley, where no news is good news, I'm John C. Dvorak.
	It's Craig Vaughn and Boeskill in the morning.
	Guten Morgen, meine Freund.
	No news is good news.
	No news is good news.
	Now we...
	Sorry?
	I was going to say, there's a couple of things we did last week.
	I wanted to do a...
	Well, didn't we promise each other we'd do something at the beginning of every show so that people will feel comfortable with the whole in the morning vibe and so that they don't just get blown into...
	I think this is very comforting.
	No, no, no, no.
	We have to do, uh...
	I don't know what you...
	Oh, hit it.
	Goldman Sachs?
	Yeah, I don't necessarily believe that's true.
	All of a sudden...
	It's gonna be fantastic.
	And all the evidence is gone!
	When she opens her mouth, it's a goldmine.
	The party girl said it all this time.
	It's the Mimsy-Lohan moment.
	I'm a guy.
	Yes, it's time for another Lindsay Lohan moment.
	And this is Troy Rudder bringing you all the news about Lindsay Lohan that you need to know.
	Did you see those pictures of Lindsay Lohan?
	I put them in the show notes, that's how good they were.
	Wait a minute, more missing information!
	Father Michael Lohan called the cops where they busted into Lindsay's apartment checking on the welfare of Lindsay's sister, 16-year-old Allie.
	Apparently Michael doesn't think that Lindsay is a good role model.
	Do you think?
	This prompted a Twitter battle between her and her father where she says, Thank God for my mommy.
	It's the Lindsay Lohan moment.
	Excellent.
	Who did that?
	Well, that's Sir Jeff Smith doing a jingle, and that's Troy Rudder.
	He does the Lindsay Lohan moment.
	Don't you love it?
	Well, I'm glad they're taking a cue from our show.
	Well, of course.
	That's unbelievable.
	I mean, this Lindsay Lohan is just amazing.
	You know, I feel really bad.
	Wait, wait, wait.
	She got into a Twitter battle with her dad on the...
	Why don't you just give him a call?
	Hey, hold on a second.
	My daughter and I get into Twitter battles all the time.
	This is a very typical thing.
	Your daughter doesn't use Twitter, does she?
	No.
	No, she's in the generation that thinks it's stupid.
	That's right.
	She's younger, right?
	Is she 15?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	I guess that generation thinks it's dumb.
	You're right.
	They don't call each other on the phone either.
	They're just text messaging constantly.
	You can buy these phones that have text messaging but don't actually make calls.
	Have you seen that?
	No, it doesn't surprise me.
	Yeah, it's like a Blackberry rip-off and it does internet text messaging but you can't call.
	I'm like, yeah, that's a great phone.
	I love it.
	So basically, that's essentially an extended pager.
	Yeah.
	Oh, yeah.
	I want to discuss a gaffe I made last week and also want to incorporate the nature of our show with the gaffe.
	When I mentioned Joy Behar and the clip that I had, I said she was on MSNBC when she's actually on HLN. I was complaining about the fact that they had this huge crew of people and directors and people on the set.
	And she made this comment.
	I think it's worth playing the clip again.
	Yeah, go ahead.
	It was so annoying.
	And, you know, I played it for Christina, who of course grew up in Holland, and for Mickey.
	And you thought I had an adverse reaction to it.
	They were like, what?
	That's tricky.
	You've done this town a huge favor, Muhammad.
	Hold on a second!
	Stop!
	There are some extremists threatening that if we give Muhammad to the celebrities, they're gonna bomb us!
	Now, okay, the Muslim website says, quote, we have to warn Matt Stone and Trey Parker, the creators, that what they are doing is stupid and they will probably end up, listen to this, like Theo van Gogh for airing this show.
	Theo van Gogh, really.
	Is this a warning or a threat?
	Theo van Gogh is the cartoonist in Amsterdam, I believe, who was basically assassinated for doing a cartoon against Mohammed.
	I mean, I would take it as a threat because of the fact that Theo is...
	There you go.
	And of course, no one says anything and there's a whole control room and producers and directors and idiotic guests.
	Three people on the set.
	No one says, excuse me, because you know what?
	They're all idiots.
	They apparently are all idiots.
	And this is on HLN, which is owned by CNN, which is actually even more indicting because I think they have more people than MSNBC. And so when I said MSNBC was an error...
	And I want to mention to people out there that we do all our own research and we do make mistakes on this show occasionally because we don't have people shouting in our ear, although apparently it wouldn't do us much good.
	And so we don't have...
	So almost every show we make some mistake or we get caught off guard because this is a show that we do not...
	It's essentially a competition between Adam and myself to who has some of the best material.
	And so we don't like, you know...
	Wait a minute, is that what it is?
	I think so.
	And so, like last week's show, we had kind of a clip showdown that actually worked so well.
	If I had listened to that show, I would have sworn that that whole thing was rehearsed.
	Yeah, which is why I have almost no clips.
	I felt really bad.
	I'm like, people will never buy it now.
	We were too slick.
	Oh, this is your excuse for being lazy.
	Lazy?
	I didn't bring any clips today.
	I didn't bring any clips.
	I'm so sorry.
	So anyway, but the fact of the matter is I wanted to correct the error and point out that it's kind of pathetic what you get for your money with these shows.
	Just one thing about this radical Muslim threat.
	Now, I've got, in my research, a headline.
	The, quote, radical Muslim group that threatened South Park creators was founded and run by Joseph Cohen, a former Israeli radical who used to live in a settlement in the West Bank.
	Yeah.
	I questioned it right off the bat, and I said, what is this bullcrap?
	I saw this guy.
	They interviewed him on some show, and he did look a little more like a Jewish character.
	He wasn't an Arab, I can assure you.
	And also, South Park...
	In 2001, South Park was running Images of Muhammad.
	Yeah, I know.
	In the Super Best Friends episode.
	Right.
	I know nobody cared then.
	So isn't this just fear-mongering?
	Someone trying to stir up anti-Muslimism or something like that?
	I think so.
	Now, let me mention one more thing as I was taking notes.
	Did you notice that everybody who discussed this issue, except for us, And I suppose people online, where it's only because you can get good news now, from blogs, nobody, if you recall, on CNN, on HLN, on MSNBC, mentioned that that was Pedo Bear.
	Did you notice this?
	Of course no one knows that.
	The only people who know that are sickos like us.
	Everybody knows Pedo Bear.
	No!
	If you go to Joy Behar...
	I never heard of him.
	My son mentioned it to me.
	It's just an ongoing gag on the internet.
	Yeah, but Joy Behar doesn't know this.
	Well, what's she doing with a TV show?
	On CNN? Well, in the chat room there, they are correcting you yet again, John.
	You made another gaffe.
	CNN is not a news channel.
	It's entertainment.
	When will you get this straight?
	Huh?
	Huh?
	And then on this list, on this list of things, I also put, I don't know why, it's got nothing to do with the other two things, but remember we got stickers, noagendastickers.com.
	Get some stickers, print them out on your printer on some Avery sticker material and stick them around town, especially near toll booths where people have to slow down and they have to read the sticker.
	So let's talk about today's executive producer and possible associate executive.
	Do we have some?
	We have two executive producers and two three associate producers.
	We're getting the two three thing happening every so often.
	Very nice.
	And so at the top of the list is the man who goes by the name of Gear.
	Mm-hmm.
	Who wired us $700 to become a knight.
	He's now a knight.
	So we have to do a knighthood for him later today.
	Okay.
	Sir Gear.
	And he, of course, is Paul T. He's one of our primary artists' dad.
	His old man, right?
	Right.
	Yeah, and so he had to keep up with the kid.
	Let me see.
	Oh, he's not on the list because he didn't PayPal it?
	He sent it in through...
	Yeah, he sent it in through Wire Transfer.
	Oh, cool.
	Okay.
	And then we have Joseph Willis from Palm Bay, Florida.
	And he said it's $500.
	It's half of his tax return.
	Oh, that's very nice.
	I figured instead of wasting it, I would treat you guys as some hookers and blowouts.
	Yay!
	I also want to call out my...
	That's about what it costs nowadays.
	I want to call out...
	Not that I would know.
	I want to call out my brother Ryan as a douchebag who has yet to donate me.
	Douchebag!
	But he did turn me on to the show.
	He's sort of only a half douche.
	Oh.
	Douche.
	Good one.
	Yeah.
	And then our associate executive producers, we've got three.
	We've got Ryan Story in Unley, South Australia.
	Yeah, we've got lots of Australian news today.
	Important stuff.
	He has a long nose.
	He doesn't want us to mention.
	He says, do not talk about the stuff below.
	But he says, I'm a long-term douchebag.
	First-time donor.
	Don't talk about the stuff below.
	Okay.
	We'll just pay attention.
	First rule about douchebags.
	Andrew Brewer, Winston-Salem, North Carolina, $201 for the Deuce Club.
	Listener from episode one, no longer a douchebag.
	I guess this is a theme today.
	No longer a douchebag.
	Douchebag!
	And he's from my favorite state of North Carolina in the morning.
	I'm going to say it.
	It's the best state in the union.
	It is.
	It's just really a pretty place.
	And it's got a good balance of politics too, which makes it even more interesting.
	And great barbecue.
	David Koss, Euless, Texas, another good place, $200.
	Now, the Deuce Club, which is a celebration of our 200th show, which is coming up, you can donate directly to the Deuce Club by going to dvorak.org slash the number two or the word deuce.
	And we're going to send out a mailing discussing this.
	But if you want to jump in early, that's how you can do it.
	And this will be a private third show?
	Is that what we're planning on?
	We're going to do a private third show, but it's going to be a tribute to the show itself and to the ducers.
	The ducers.
	Perfect.
	What you're saying is we actually haven't figured out the promotion yet.
	Or have we?
	No, we were, yeah, no.
	We haven't had a meeting.
	I want a meeting about the deuce.
	Also, by the way, anyone with double nickels on a dime can do the same thing.
	Go to dvorak.org slash two or dvorak.org slash deuce.
	I've got a couple of budding PR associates.
	First, there's a new site.
	Now, you know, with this program, I did a long talk with Dave Matthews about this the other day.
	He's really flabbergasted with...
	Can we call this a business model?
	Or is this just a model?
	Well, it's not much of a business.
	Well, that's the flabbergasted part.
	That's not much of a business, but it is interesting.
	We don't hold copyrights on anything.
	You can copy the show.
	You can redistribute it.
	You can put it on your own stream.
	It's totally open source.
	Whatever you want.
	Open source is, I guess, one way to describe it.
	But also, set up as many domains as you can.
	Of course, we always appreciate a donation if you make any money.
	Through AdSense or any other way.
	And we have a new one, which is, I guess, a Dig clone, which is noagendanews.info.
	I don't think we had one of those yet, a Dig-like site.
	So I think that's very cool.
	Yeah, that could be fun.
	That'll help us, actually.
	That'll help the show.
	It's not a bad idea.
	Yeah, I think it will, too.
	By the way, the chat room apparently came up with the idea of calling people a deuce bag.
	Ooh!
	Okay.
	Sir Jeff Smith, I hope you're listening.
	We only need it for a while.
	I think, what, what show number is this?
	This is 194.
	So we're, what, six shows away from the two?
	So we got like six shows or three weeks.
	Three weeks, right.
	Before we have to...
	We could have one meeting every single week.
	We're not having any meetings.
	Okay, Maynard checks back in again, our friend from Down Under.
	Never missing an opportunity to get a plug-in for your show whenever I can.
	I figured the Australian skeptics would love your show, so here I am on this week's show, episode 79 of The Skeptic Zone.
	But at the same time, I'm a huge fan of a show that simply describes it.
	Basically, they go out and they hit people in the mouth, metaphorically.
	That is The No Agenda Show, with Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak.
	And what they do in the morning is basically postulate what-ifs and they've got some really crackpot ideas that I love listening to.
	For example, the Harper Ray is that part of an earthquake machine.
	All of it points to that not being the case.
	But I like enjoying entertaining the idea that there might be an earthquake machine and what political ramifications would there be if there were.
	I love the guy.
	I expect that not to be the case.
	I like that.
	It sounds more British than Australian.
	I expect that not to be the case.
	However, it entertains me.
	I do like it very much.
	The understated style.
	And Todd McGreevey gave us two shout-outs on his show on republicbroadcasting.org at the 8 minute and 15 second mark and the 55 minute and 35 second mark.
	And we highly appreciate it.
	So thanks again to our executive producers, Geer and Joseph Willis, and our associate executive producers, Ryan Story, Andrew Brewer, and David Koss.
	You can put it on your resume.
	We'll vouch for you.
	And it'll get you hookers and blow chicks and maybe a job.
	Our formula is this.
	We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
	Get ready, everybody.
	Say it with me now.
	You know what to say.
	Shut up.
	All right.
	Cool.
	We eat for another two days.
	Yep.
	So what's hot on your list?
	I would have to say trains, not planes is really hot on the list.
	There's two things going on.
	We have been getting a lot of notes that claim that we've stumbled onto this.
	This is the meme to get the train thing cranked back up.
	So, of course, we have Ashma...
	So there's two things that kind of flow into each other.
	Ashmageddon is one, and now there's anger.
	Anger in the European Union.
	Anger!
	We need to coordinate all a single European skies so we can shut it down longer and easier.
	This is, I mean, there's unified skies is what we need now in Europe.
	So now they're really pulling the cloak around everything.
	So will it be mirages that go after the little private planes or will it be Harriers?
	I mean, who's going to be the Air Force?
	Well, the European Army, of course.
	Yeah, they're going to do a European, I would say within the next five years we're going to have a European Army.
	Oh yeah.
	The best came from our national treasure, actually, John.
	Now remember, never let a good crisis go to waste.
	So, of course, when the air travel is unavailable, And Richard Branson even coming out now saying this was total bullcrap.
	We lost $75 million and now he's going to the government saying pay me.
	Good for him.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	Our National Treasurer ran an interesting story.
	And by the way, it's always fun to click on these from the website to find out who is sponsoring them this week.
	So let's have a listen as I fire up the NPR media player.
	Support for NPR comes from Siemens, with over 60,000 employees in all 50 states committed to answering America's toughest questions at Siemens.com slash answers.
	I just showed a light bulb.
	It's Morning Edition from NPR News.
	I'm Steve Inskeep.
	When Europe's planes stopped flying, trains took over.
	Many stranded Europeans were able to get home by train.
	Thousands of British travelers made their way to the main station in Paris for the Eurostar train to London.
	Eleanor Beardsley sends this report.
	Okay.
	British tourist Jane and Clive Tomlinson are making their way up from the subway station into Paris' Gare du Nord train terminal.
	It's nearly the last leg of what has been a long journey...
	Who is this woman?
	I can't tell if she's Southern.
	Jane and Jane, Tomlinson, and...
	I can't tell if she's Southern or if she's French.
	She sounds like a...
	Well, I won't say.
	Home from their vacation in Rome.
	Rome.
	Alright, well, so we don't have to play the whole report.
	Yeah, we know what they're up to.
	Siemens sponsors the show, so boom, we're talking about, you know, how great trains are.
	Hey, by the way, it's really interesting, and I think it's fantastic to finally find out that they have trains in Europe.
	That is good to do.
	In France, high-speed rail Dove Air Links.
	What kind of language is that?
	It meant Dover.
	It says, in France, high-speed rail dove air links between most major cities out of business.
	Oh, drove.
	They misspelled it.
	Oh, this is interesting.
	So, this is the subtitle on their player.
	In France, high-speed rail drove air links between most major cities out of business long ago.
	What?
	What?
	Yeah, that's literally what it says.
	That's bogus.
	Yeah.
	Rail service benefits from flight cancellations.
	This is our national treasure.
	Wait, wait, wait, wait.
	If it drove them out of business, then what was the problem?
	I don't know.
	This is like a disconnect in logic.
	I'm just saying.
	It says it right here.
	And they've misspelled drove.
	It's dove.
	I wonder if we refresh.
	Will we get a new commercial?
	Oh, I'm sorry.
	Underwriting?
	Oops.
	Did I mess that up?
	I didn't mean to say commercial.
	Support for NPR comes from Starbucks.
	Yay!
	Featuring eight different bold coffees for the next eight weeks.
	Learn more at starbucks.com slash bold or a local Starbucks.
	Yay!
	Cool!
	But call it whatever you want.
	Yeah.
	Bastards.
	Okay.
	So instead of giving your money to them, give your money to us.
	Anyway, go on.
	Okay, so also, this is actually quite interesting, although it doesn't have anything to do with trains per se, but just as a side note, only two days ago, Iceland finally closed its airport.
	These guys, their airport was just open.
	They're next to the damn thing.
	Yeah, but the airport is nowhere near that volcano, and the wind was going the other way, so they didn't care.
	Okay.
	Well, so now it's closed.
	Yeah, the wind shifted.
	Yeah.
	But then I found a couple of interesting links, and only on aviation websites.
	So if, you know, we know we've tracked this from the beginning of the $8 billion being invested in Florida, I think another $6 billion in California for high-speed rail.
	Joe Biden, who of course is Mr.
	Amtrak, keeps talking about it.
	We need to do a pool.
	In other words, whatever they do for the California Rail, we take the number and then we guess what it's really going to be.
	Because it's not going to be $6 billion, I can assure you.
	No, it's going to be a lot more than that.
	It's going to be like $600 billion by the time they're done.
	They're boneheads.
	This state is corrupt.
	Well, Florida, apparently not much better.
	But anyway, this is just like...
	When we built the original railroads, it's like, you know, this is going to be the new economy.
	I'm not necessarily against it, but I like air travel.
	I think it's efficient.
	I think it's fast.
	I think it's cheap.
	The problem, of course, is they're making it incredibly difficult and dissatisfying to fly as you go through the humiliation tunnel known as the TSA checkpoint.
	But now a couple of other interesting things are cropping up.
	Besides the fact that you can't fly when there's no volcano...
	And even as Richard Branson says, we fly over volcanoes all the time, every single day.
	But oh no!
	Oh no, it's way too dangerous and we had to shut them down because the computer model said so.
	Two things happened that got no media attention.
	Of course, I saw them because I'm an aviator.
	There's this new landing system called WAAS, W-A-A-S, Wide Area Augmentation System.
	Which is intended to replace or enhance for airports who don't have an instrument landing system, which is a very expensive system to put in place and to maintain.
	It made millions of dollars.
	This Waze is supposed to be broadcast through the GPS system.
	There's a number of ground stations and it basically synchronizes the accuracy of GPS so that you can use it to land in bad weather conditions.
	Or if you just want to get an automatic landing or a glide slope.
	And this thing has been highly anticipated.
	Airports all over the country have been setting up their facilities.
	And what happens all of a sudden?
	They lost control of the satellite.
	What?
	Yes.
	On April 3rd, Intelsat, the company that provides the satellite service to the FAAs, two satellites who will be managing this Waze system, lost control...
	The satellite will now drift out of orbit over the next two to four weeks, according to the FAA. And so, of course, immediately Alaska can't use Waze and until they shoot another satellite up into space, the whole thing is dead.
	It ain't gonna work.
	And this was one of the huge promises of the new FAA. And then I get another report, this one probably more disturbing, The new computers, critical to modernizing the U.S. air traffic control system, have run into serious problems and may not be fully operational by the end of this year when the current system is supposed to be replaced.
	This is a multi-billion dollar computer system and they apparently can't get it to work.
	It's the next-gen program that they've also been hyping and trumping.
	So I think that they're just purposely making it all go away.
	Make it impossible.
	No innovation.
	Sorry, the computer's got a bug.
	We can't make it work.
	Well, take the train!
	Interesting.
	You know, maybe they're trying to get us so, I mean, you can control a population a lot better if it's all done on trains, because you don't have to worry about people flying out of the country.
	Yeah, and it's much easier to stop in between stations, and then the Gestapo gets on and asks you for your Ausweis.
	Your papers!
	Your papers!
	Your papers, please!
	Papers!
	So that was the main story, and I'm just tracking that, and I think that they're really trying to put commercial aviation out of business and make it unattractive.
	And the meme has already said it's in everybody's head.
	Hold on a second.
	There was something, and it was a year or two ago, and I remember reading about this.
	There was some spokesman for general aviation complaining about how they're trying to push general aviation out of business, for starters, to get people out of these private planes, because it's hard to control a population that has private planes.
	Well, they were doing that until they discovered that it would also affect them and their private jets.
	And they're like, oh, crap.
	Well, let's have none of that.
	That's why that'll never really happen.
	Unless they split up smaller category aircraft, like single-engine pistons, and they split those off from business jets.
	But I don't see that happening very quickly.
	Because these business jets, they rely on that infrastructure of smaller airports, so they want to keep those open and available to them without too much hassle.
	So I think that's going to be okay.
	But it's very, very clear that aviation is being made incredibly unattractive.
	Hey, there's terrorists on them things!
	They could blow up.
	They could fall out of the sky.
	I mean, it's like, you know, and everyone said, hey, I'd much rather have a train crash than an airplane crash.
	You ever seen a train crash?
	Uh-huh, uh-huh.
	So let's say you're in a high-speed train doing 300 miles an hour, let's say, or 250 in the American high-speed train.
	We can't seem to really get the speed up there.
	And, uh...
	And the thing slams into something and you're standing in the aisle.
	Now, the train has stopped and you're doing, personally, 250 miles an hour, like as if you were on a skateboard doing 250 miles an hour.
	And you're going to start flying towards something, and I don't think it's going to be an open space.
	You're going to become a no-agenda pancake.
	Yes, definitely.
	And if you're doing 250 miles an hour and you are in the aisle and you jump up...
	Will you actually move?
	Will the train move underneath you?
	You know, I think it would by some nanometer, perhaps, because I think while you're up in the air, there will be a change in momentum.
	Maybe, maybe not.
	I mean, I think physicists would say, no, what I'm describing is bogus.
	But I also believe that there is a...
	For example, the old thing about gravity, if you drop a feather and a bowling ball in a vacuum, they'll both fall at the exact same speed.
	How does that jive with the fact that every item and object itself has a gravity?
	So the bowling ball would have more gravity because it's bigger than the feather, and so it should arrive within some really minuscule amount of time quicker to the bottom, it seems to me.
	It would be immeasurable.
	Shoot, man.
	I don't know.
	I don't know either.
	Here's one other thing, and then I'll let you grab it, because this is something that we laid into quite heavily about what Dick Morris told Hannity.
	About Janet Reno and President Clinton.
	And I'll just read you the quote.
	In a meeting right before the inauguration, Clinton was told by Janet Reno, according to Dick Morris, if you don't appoint me, I'm going to tell the truth about Waco, and that forced Clinton's hand in reappointing her.
	I know that he told me, Clinton told me, that I could not reappoint Reno because she would have turned on me over Waco.
	And then our friend goes on Fox and Friends and he tells a different story, John.
	Who, Morris?
	Yeah!
	Oh yeah, Morris is full of crap.
	Bill Clinton has been implying that movements like the Tea Party are responsible for motivating violence like what happened down in Oklahoma City 15 years ago with the bombing there.
	But Dick Morris said that Bill Clinton had his own hand in that and revealed that the other night on Hannity.
	All right, so do you mind?
	We'll just listen to the clip again.
	...McVeigh's motivation.
	God knows what's going on in that crazy head of his, but there is some speculation that he himself had said that it was the reaction to the Waco takeover.
	And Bill Clinton orchestrated that takeover, and in fact was so ashamed about what he did in Waco that he was not going to appoint Janet Reno to a second four-year term.
	And she told him in a meeting right before the inauguration day for his new term that if you don't appoint me, I'm going to tell the truth about Waco.
	And that forced Clinton's hand in reappointing her.
	Okay.
	Wow, that's a bombshell.
	So did Janet Reno...
	By the way, I love her sitting there.
	That's a bombshell as I'm looking into her snatch.
	Literally.
	She did force Bill Clinton into a reappointment to the Attorney General Post.
	Let's ask Fox News contributor again, Dick Morris.
	All right, Dick, you released a bombshell by saying that actually President Clinton made this legal decision.
	She didn't have a big vocabulary.
	No, bombshell, bombshell, bombshell.
	But you can't help it.
	She's got her legs crossed, but she's like, Dick Morris, I don't care.
	I'm looking at her.
	Yeah, well, that's what they do on Fox.
	And using the word bombshell is like, you know, I'm looking at you.
	Now you should mention it.
	I'm looking at you.
	Bombshell, hello.
	Hello, bombshell.
	Janet Reno?
	Well, let me, yes, I believe he did.
	Why did he go weasel all of a sudden?
	Because they said, dude, I got a little present here for you.
	You better take that back, Nicky boy.
	Wish the facts from my conjecture based on the facts.
	Oh, the facts based upon the conjecture of my facts that I didn't have the facts.
	Well, you know, it does explain why Janet Reno got reappointed in the first place.
	And so I believe his original story, he probably just threw it off because he thought it was, you know, something, a tale to tell.
	And then you're right.
	Somebody called him and said, look, buddy, you better pull that thing or you're going to be in trouble.
	No.
	Let's just listen to one more second here.
	That the Timothy McVeigh attack took place on the anniversary of Waco.
	And when President Clinton was contemplating his second term cabinet, he appointed the whole cabinet but left Attorney General vacant.
	And he and I were in extensive discussions about who he might appoint to become the new Attorney General.
	In fact, we had focused on the idea that Bill Weld, the governor of Massachusetts, might do that.
	Hillary and Bill had asked me to check Bill out.
	Bill Weld out, he's a client of mine.
	And we had extensive discussions.
	Alright, whatever.
	He's full of crap.
	But yeah, that's exactly what happened.
	And I think Dick Morris actually meant well on Hannity by saying, pay attention everybody, there's bad stuff that could happen here.
	And Clinton's out doing interviews.
	I think I have it somewhere.
	Saying, well, you know, this president could get killed.
	He could get assassinated.
	You know, and it'll be one of these radicals.
	One of these crazy people.
	One of these crazy T-backers.
	Yeah, you know, I think that Obama is aware of this kind of threat from people like it was.
	Not directly a threat from Clinton, although I think it is.
	And that's why I think he's on the road constantly.
	He's never in Washington.
	Well, which one are you talking about?
	Obama 1 or Obama 2?
	I think it was Obama 1.
	I think that's the main one.
	I think Obama 2 could maybe float around a little more.
	You want to hear what Clinton is saying?
	How can he otherwise move?
	The one that's got the most gray hair.
	Listen to what...
	What Clinton is saying, I think this is...
	Bullshit.
	Fucking pre-roll.
	This is CNN. And by the way, he looks a lot better than that.
	They do clean him up when he has to do these in-studio interviews.
	Oh yeah, makeup.
	Makeup department.
	CNN has a...
	Oh yeah.
	Huge.
	Yeah, they got that spray paint makeup these days.
	So, but listen to the seriousness of what he's saying, and he's really, he's laying it on pretty heavy, and I think it's a setup for some kind of, you know...
	The Situation Room with Wolf Blitzer.
	Yeah, Wolf Blitzer.
	Wolf, you rock.
	Other difference.
	Yes, the Internet has exploded over these 15 years.
	There's a Democratic president now.
	You were a Democrat.
	By the way, pay attention to the mean because we'll be talking about this a lot.
	But the other big difference is there's an African-American president.
	Yes, and an African-American president whose father was from Kenya, whose mother's second husband was a Muslim.
	Let's remind everyone.
	Hey, he's a black guy and he's a Muslim.
	Thanks, Bill.
	Attacks from the birthers and others.
	Just a reminder.
	Whose side are you on, Bill?
	I'll give you one guess.
	I do think, and he's had a lot of threats, and also the members of Congress have had a lot of threats against them.
	We had a lot of threats.
	I remember when that guy came from Colorado and opened fire on the White House with an assault weapon and sprayed the pressure on him.
	You remember that?
	Some of the bullets got under pressure on the North Lawn of the White House.
	Yeah, that was really...
	I remember that, the North Lawn of the White House.
	Yes, I remember, Bill.
	Yeah, Wolf, do you remember?
	Yeah, man, that was really devastating, you know.
	It's like, wow.
	They were so angry at me.
	And they were madder at me.
	I was sort of an apostate, and he's an outsider.
	A prostate?
	What was he?
	He's an apostate.
	What's that?
	That's a non-believer or someone who was once a Muslim and then he gave up the faith.
	That is, the white Southern Protestants, of which I am one, were the heart and soul of the then right-wing movement in America, of the right-wing of the Conservative Party.
	And also were a lot of the people who were most...
	There is no Conservative Party.
	Yeah, but let Bill talk.
	He's got a yellow tie on.
	Pay attention.
	So they figured, you know, what was the matter of me?
	I was a traitor to my class, sort of.
	Ooh, his class.
	The elite class, perhaps?
	President Obama is different and symbolizes the increasing diversity of America.
	And both of them...
	What?
	The increasing what?
	Diversity.
	Oh.
	For him, it's like a symbol of...
	He symbolizes the loss of control, of predictability, of certainty, of clarity that a lot of people need for their psychic well-being.
	And I worry about it.
	Look, he's well protected by the Secret Service.
	They're terrific.
	And a president, I can tell you I've never met a president.
	And look, George W. Bush had some threats against him, but people who strongly disagree with his policy.
	Some Eric Kanner got a threat here.
	Who's Eric Kanner?
	kiss I should know that.
	He's like Assistant Secretary of State or something.
	Why does he bring him up?
	I don't know.
	That's kind of weird.
	Is he in Georgia, maybe?
	Is it a guy in Georgia?
	Eric Cantor.
	Well, why don't you play it and I'll look it up.
	The governor of New Jersey has been at least jokingly threatened by some of the interest groups in New Jersey, the Republican governor of New Jersey.
	But by and large, in the last 50 years...
	Ooh, by and large.
	Well, at least since the early 70s, When we still had some left-wing problems, by and large, these have been systematically coming out of the far right.
	Okay, here it comes.
	Stand by.
	Again, I think that all those folks have a place in our political debate.
	We just have to know where to draw the line.
	And we have enough threats against the president, enough threats against the Congress.
	That we should be sensitive to it.
	The 15th anniversary of Oklahoma City, I'm not trying to draw total parallels, I'm just saying we should be aware...
	By the way, you are making a total parallel.
	Hold on a second.
	Douchebag!
	Don't do that.
	This is a vast echo chamber.
	Okay, oh, I played over it.
	Listen to what he says here, John.
	Oklahoma City, I'm not trying to draw total parallels, I'm just saying we should be aware of this.
	This is a vast echo chamber, this internet.
	Oh!
	Oh, the internet.
	The internet.
	It's a vast echo chamber.
	It's always the internet.
	It's a vast echo chamber.
	So Eric Cantor is the Republican whip in the Congress from Virginia.
	Huh.
	I know I heard of him, but why is he brought up in a conversation?
	He's not even, he's not, okay, whatever.
	If I were him, I'd be on the lookout.
	That's like, that could be a little message from Bill to Eric.
	All right, let's just finish this up, 20 seconds.
	I'm just saying we should be aware of this.
	This is a vast echo chamber, this internet.
	And there's lots of folks listening.
	And as I said, some are serious, some are delirious.
	Some are connected, some are unhinged.
	Wow!
	He's doing prose.
	Some are serious, some are delirious.
	He's doing a rap.
	Some be serious, some be delirious.
	Some are unhinged.
	Damn, we've got to make that into a rap.
	As I said, some are serious, some are delirious.
	Some are connected, some are unhinged.
	And all of us who have any responsibility...
	We have to exercise that responsibility so that we're intellectually honest about our political positions.
	But we're also intellectually honest about what certain words might do to people who are less stable.
	He keeps on going with his certain words about people who are less stable.
	This is...
	Well, there's a couple elements at work here.
	And this Eric Cantor thing now has me completely buffaloed.
	But this is kind of a sub-Rosa attack on the Tea Party, of course, because that seems to be the major concern of everybody, especially...
	You know, the Democrats.
	I mean, if you watched last week's Bill Maher, all he talked about was teabaggers, teabaggers, teabaggers.
	And then, of course, nobody says to him, what's a teabag?
	You got something against the gays?
	I mean, what, you know, the teabagger, teabagger.
	So he won't even acknowledge the proper name instead of using basically an epithet.
	And he's like freaked about it.
	And of course, I believe, if anyone's listened to this show more than once or twice, I believe that the things have already been infiltrated with agents provocateurs who will hold up the crazy signs or yell out weird stuff.
	But this is what I'm saying.
	This is where it gets kind of creepy because Clinton is basically saying...
	And here's the way I take this, if you go into total crackpot mode, which is, let's face it, that's what I do.
	He's saying, these crazies are going to go out and kill somebody, and Eric from Virginia, you're next!
	Seriously?
	Didn't you catch it that way?
	Yeah, and he's Jewish, so I guess...
	Oh, okay.
	Oh, perfect.
	It would make sense that some air maniac or...
	I don't know.
	I can't see him getting a tea party person to do it, but...
	No, of course.
	It'll be CIA or someone.
	Well, I mean, that's who it will really be.
	Yeah, of course.
	But we're just saying, who are they going to blame it on?
	On the pedo bear.
	The pedo bear.
	The pedo bear will have done it, dammit.
	I'm telling you.
	Well, while we're on that topic, let's see what I have here for clips.
	I have a clip that kind of applies to this a little bit.
	He is a she?
	No, no.
	Well, actually, he is a she is a funny story, but we'll save that for later.
	Okay.
	Social Security marriage and whole ownership slam.
	Well, there's actually, this story is kind of interesting, because the thing that's also breaking news, and it's kind of in the same high end, is this Arizona issue.
	Oh, with the Ausweis beta, show me your papers, please.
	Yeah, why don't you play my Arizona clip, and then we'll...
	We'll jam on it.
	And this is a nation of immigrants, so it's going to be difficult for a lot of folks, I think, who have been here, who were born here, raised here, to have to suddenly start thinking about documentation, right?
	Well, remember, this is only in Arizona, but there's no doubt about it, that this whole thing is going to set a new paradigm, at least there, and at least until this thing gets settled down the road.
	So, you know, critics say that illegal immigrants come to this country and they take jobs that should be going to Americans, and I think that that's a valid argument in many cases, but...
	So this goes on and on.
	And what's weird about it to me is that, and I think this is happening everywhere, is they're not really discussing the issue or why Arizona did this in the first place.
	Arizona has a crime wave.
	It's got nothing to do with jobs being taken away from Americans.
	It has to do with the fact that there's a crime wave that is unbelievable in Arizona.
	And then the most recent thing where some poor rancher was murdered in his house by some drug dealers coming across the border.
	So this report goes on, which is on a local news station.
	This report goes on for a good 10 minutes with this analyst and the newsreader.
	And they never once bring this topic up.
	It's, well, I don't know, Jobs for Americans.
	Jobs for Americans are taking our jobs.
	They change the focus of the conversation, so we're not really addressing the issue.
	Or the real reasons that Arizona got to this point, because they weren't going to do this when it was just a jobs thing.
	And I find it very distressing that the real...
	Kind of the real points are just completely being ignored.
	I mean, they're just being glossed over.
	Well, it seems more like it's being hijacked as an excuse for the government not being able to create the jobs promised by the administration.
	You know, well, it's them damn foreign...
	the Mexicans!
	Them foreigners taking your jobs!
	Yeah, we gotta...
	let's get them!
	Get the papers!
	I don't know.
	I just find it something screwy.
	I find it kind of fun that in the ID3 tag for this Arizona clip, the genre is blues.
	It's what?
	Blues.
	Oh, every genre is blues.
	Because it's the one that shows up at the top and I'm not going to put ID3 tags that are, you know, I'm not going to sit there dicking around looking for the right tag.
	I forgot to play two important clips for you regarding trains.
	I'm so sorry.
	From Gitmo Nation East.
	I just want to lay them on you real quick.
	You know, they're doing the American-style election debates.
	Yeah, in England.
	Yeah, oh yeah, it's crazy.
	And I have the video now.
	Alex, one of our producers, has been so nice to send me MP4 versions because it's really hard to get a copy of it because it's way too long to fit onto YouTube, etc.
	So here's Gordon Brown first.
	Gordon Brown, what should we do about the economy?
	What are we going to do?
	I don't think I've been on any more than one plane during this election campaign.
	I've been going round by train.
	And I think, actually, our high-speed rail network will allow people to get off the roads and also to get off domestic air flights, and I think that's incredibly important.
	Yes, very important.
	How about you, David Cameron?
	What do you think about it?
	But I would say in the last six months, the biggest change, or the last year, the biggest change that I've been able to make is actually coming out very strongly against the third runway at Heathrow.
	I think it is wrong to do that.
	I think we should be going for high-speed rail instead.
	We should be having a high-speed rail hub at Heathrow.
	And trying to make sure that all those flights that people take where you could take a train, it's possible to do that.
	I think it would be a really big step forward.
	Alright, now at this point, I have to say, this reeks of a public relations campaign.
	You think?
	But I want to find out, you know, it won't take much work, by the way.
	I would look into Siemens, for starters, to find out what agency it is.
	But it's got to be one of the monsters.
	It's got to be Hill and Nolten.
	They're one of these huge international agencies that can really change public policy.
	You have to pay them a lot of money, but they can do it.
	Hey, doesn't Siemens make trains?
	Yeah.
	Siemens Transportation.
	These are the guys that sponsored the NPR report.
	I thought that's why you played it.
	I didn't!
	They showed me a light bulb!
	I was confused!
	Apparently.
	SiemensTransportation.co.uk.
	Here it is.
	These guys make trains!
	They're sponsoring our national treasure to do a report about, uh, trains!
	Yeah.
	Hello?
	Jesus.
	Oh, my God.
	Sorry, I didn't mean to take the Lord's name in vain.
	Alright.
	Let's go.
	Alright, let's get off the topic.
	Off the trains, because it's driving me crazy.
	Let's dig into that.
	Let's find out who's managing the campaign.
	We can find out who's behind it, and we can deconstruct it in such a way that you'll be totally disgusted when we're done.
	Yes, I will be retching.
	So Jason Matiras, who is the guy who wrote a book called Obama's Zombies, And he's the guy, we played a clip about him recently, he's the guy who ambushed Franken.
	Oh, that's the guy who...
	Oh, okay.
	We called him kind of a minor...
	Douchebag!
	We called him a douchebag.
	But I have to say, here he is on C-SPAN slamming McCain.
	I mean, he's basically slamming the Obama zombies, but at the same time, he brings up some interesting points about how incompetent the GOP is when it comes to getting the youth vote.
	And I just found this very interesting exposition of what's to come and how, and one of the reasons I believe that Obama will have no problem getting reelected.
	But yet they still provide his biggest base of support.
	And it's unfortunate, but why I wrote Obama Zombies is to really show a behind-the-scenes look at how Team Obama went outreaching to young people, because I think there's a lot of good things they did.
	And also to point out how the GOP has had an awful youth outreach program for many years.
	You're critical of John McCain in this book.
	What didn't you like about his campaign?
	Where do I start?
	Number one, he wasn't a conservative.
	He banked his whole presidency on reaching across the aisle and playing nicey-nice with the left.
	We can't have that anymore.
	But more importantly, when it came to younger voters, he didn't have bases on college campuses.
	Barack Obama had more than 1,000 students for Obama chapters.
	He was always giving campaign rallies on college campuses.
	He always had young people behind him.
	His internet outreach was absolutely amazing.
	John McCain's internet outreach, Bill, I mean, there's no joke now.
	His internet outreach was a game called Pork Invaders.
	Where you had to dodge incoming projectiles from pigs.
	You dodged them successfully and then earmarks would appear on the screen to let you know how the number of Obama voted for.
	And the graphics weren't even that good.
	It looked like Pac-Man circa 1980.
	That was John McCain's internet outreach to young people.
	Pork invaders.
	Barack Obama hires the co-creator of Facebook to run his new media operation.
	He hires Emmy award-winning producers from CNN to upload videos to YouTube.
	It was a complete domination, a digital domination.
	I think there's a lot that GOP can learn from how Team Obama reached out to young people.
	Jason Matera with us until about 9.55 Eastern Republicans.
	Your number is 200.
	Right.
	Yeah, okay.
	I just thought, just a little reminder to people out there that there's like a level of incompetence on the Republican side that...
	That echo chamber, man.
	You've got to watch out for that internet echo chamber.
	Yeah, that echo chamber.
	Of course, you know, Clinton and some of the Democrats are attacking.
	You know, the thing they're concerned about is that there's a lot of right-wing blogs.
	They'd love to get rid of those.
	But the fact of the matter is the internet's benefited the Democrats much more so than it has the Republicans.
	Well, but they want the cleanternet, John.
	Yeah, the Cleanternet.
	You've heard about this, right?
	I've heard the word, but I don't know the basis.
	Yeah, the Cleanternet is...
	There's this Minister of European Parliament.
	Her name is...
	Hold on a second.
	European Commissioner Cecilia Maulström.
	And she has a plan to introduce a website blocking system Europe-wide.
	Europe-wide, mind you.
	And so people are up in arms about this.
	There's actually a pretty funny YouTube video about the Cleanternet, which I'll put in the show notes.
	You can also see it at noagendatv.com.
	It doesn't quite work just listening to the audio.
	But of course it's all like, well, we have to get rid of child pornography and people who oppose me!
	Stuff like that.
	So it's being called the Cleanternet.
	And we will all love it.
	We'll love the Cleanternet.
	There's not an echo chamber anymore.
	That's funny.
	Yeah.
	So, do we have time for some real news before we get to our thank yous?
	Wow, was it going that fast already?
	Yeah, of course.
	And now, back to real news.
	So I got the biggest kick out of this story that was on Nightline.
	Apparently, Charles Taylor, the former head of Liberia, I think, yeah.
	He was involved with the Blood Diamonds and arms trade with Sierra Leone during a coup d'etat or something, some war going on down there where there's just a lot of people getting killed.
	Mm-hmm.
	And supposedly, in the late 97 or so, he apparently went to Sierra Leone and they gave him a whole bunch of diamonds, including some huge rock, uncut, but just a monster.
	And he was on the blue train with Mandela.
	There's that train again.
	Sorry?
	There's that train again.
	That's true.
	And they showed the train.
	Anyway, he was on the train with...
	It's funny.
	That's probably part of the meme.
	I didn't even think about it.
	But anyway, they showed him.
	He was with Mandela and a bunch of celebrities, including Mia Farrow and that black Naomi Campbell.
	The woman who throws her cell phone at everyone's head?
	Yeah, she's crazy.
	So apparently, Taylor met her, and of course, back in 97, she was gorgeous.
	And I guess he had a crush on her, so he gave her this huge stone.
	And why not?
	As one does.
	Yeah, play the clip, and it gets pretty explanatory.
	If I were not here...
	And behind it all, say prosecutors was this man, Charles Taylor.
	Charles Taylor.
	Once the president of Liberia, accused of using the blood diamonds to ferment the violence.
	The diamonds made possible a continuation of the conflict, but they also...
	Wait a minute.
	Liberia, and this guy's like American?
	No.
	He sounds American.
	No, when he talks, you'll see he sounds American.
	That's not him.
	Now on trial in The Hague for crimes against humanity.
	So most definitely, I'm not guilty.
	Taylor has angrily denied any...
	What?
	Nothing.
	I'm sorry, I thought you said something.
	A wrongdoing or knowledge of blood diamonds.
	Never happened.
	Never.
	Supposedly given to him in a mayonnaise jar.
	I'm supposed to be such a scumbag that people bringing me diamonds in nothing else but a mayonnaise jar.
	How much more can you demonize me?
	But in a bizarre twist, prosecutors have alleged that the fashion model Naomi Campbell can directly tie Taylor to the blood diamonds, based on what one of Campbell's famous friends has told them.
	You don't forget when a girlfriend tells you that she was given a huge diamond in the middle of the night.
	In her first interview on the subject, actress Mia Farrell told ABC News that Campbell revealed to her she had been sent a diamond by Taylor.
	It was 1997 in South Africa.
	Farrow and some of her children, Ann Campbell, were the guests of Nelson Mandela for a trip on the country's famed blue train.
	Among those present at Mandela's home that evening was the then Liberian President Charles Taylor.
	Wait a minute.
	You know, I've always had my doubts about that Mandela dude.
	Yeah, I don't think it had anything to do with this, though.
	But there is a little anomaly in this whole story, which I find interesting, and it'll be revealed.
	I'll reveal it.
	No, well, let's listen for the reveal.
	It's the big reveal.
	It'll be in there.
	Scene here between Mandela and Campbell.
	Farrell says she heard about the diamond the following morning at breakfast.
	Naomi Campbell came down and she said during the night some men had knocked at her door and it was representatives of President Charles Taylor and that they had given her a huge diamond.
	They were like, oh my gosh.
	Prosecutors say Taylor was in South Africa at the time to buy weapons for the Sierra Leone rebels with blood diamonds, and that Mia Farrow's information about Campbell helps tie him to the purchase.
	That is totally incorrect.
	And indeed, Mr.
	Taylor, your men awakened her and presented her with a large, rough diamond.
	Isn't that correct?
	That is totally, totally incorrect.
	And Mr.
	Taylor, that diamond that you sent to Mia to...
	Naomi Campbell was one of the diamonds that you had been given by the Junta in Sierra Leone, isn't that correct?
	Junta no sense.
	Prosecutors had hoped that Naomi Campbell would help them and confirm or deny the allegation about Taylor and the Blood Diamond.
	But they say she refused to cooperate with them.
	This is a great report.
	Why did they put Donna Summer in there all of a sudden?
	Because now they're showing Naomi going up and down the walk.
	The catwalk.
	And she's crooked from the huge rock in her pocket.
	In a recent appearance in New York to raise money for Haiti during Fashion Week, Campbell had another one of her famed outbursts when ABC News producer Anna Schechter asked her about the blood diamond allegation.
	Because you received a diamond from Charles.
	You received a diamond and I'm not going to speak about that, thank you very much.
	And I'm not here for that.
	Did you have dinner though with Charles Taylor?
	I had dinner with Nelson Mandela, thank you very much.
	Did men bring you a diamond?
	You know, a diamond in the rough, sort of a large diamond?
	No, we're not answering these questions.
	Shut up, slave!
	We've been told that you didn't help the prosecution sort of in this very important case.
	Thank you so much.
	Goodbye.
	How do celebrities get away with that?
	I'm not going to answer and then just thank you so much.
	And why do these reporters go, uh, okay.
	You know what's weird in this particular report?
	Naomi all of a sudden looks over at her publicist and gives her the evil eye and the publicist has to jump in and then Naomi gets up and then she also slams the camera which is coming up next.
	She then took a swing at one of our cameras.
	Told of Campbell's denial, Mia Farrow said she stands by her version of events.
	That's what happened.
	That's what happened, and there's no doubt in my mind.
	And she said she was going to give it to Nelson Mandela's children's charities.
	What?
	Whoa.
	Okay.
	And I thought no more about it.
	The director of donor relations for the Nelson Mandela Children's Fund told ABC News there was no record Naomi Campbell gave the charity a diamond.
	She did make cash contributions of $50,000 that year and the year after, according to their records.
	The scars of what happened in Sierra Leone have not healed.
	All right, that's good.
	You know, Naomi Campbell must have a golden Galapagos.
	So now, so here's the two issues that come, two things that come to mind.
	Naomi Campbell obviously doesn't want to deal with this at all, but she doesn't actually deny it.
	But the thing that caught my attention is the following.
	So Mia Farrow...
	First of all, what kind of a woman or even a curious person is Mia Farrow when Naomi Campbell says, I got this huge diamond last night in the middle of the night.
	And she said, show it to me.
	Exactly.
	Show it to me, Biot.
	Show me that rock.
	What do you have to do?
	What do you have to do?
	You would want to see it.
	I want to touch it, I want to smell it, I want to fondle it, and I want to know what she had to do for it.
	And Mia makes no indication that she ever saw it.
	She just tells the story, this third-party story.
	Interesting that there was also, at least not reported or not edited in, a question from the journalist.
	Did you see it?
	Did you ask to see it?
	Yeah, there's another good one.
	Where is the journalist asking that simple question?
	Why didn't you ask to see it?
	She could have said, well, I did ask to see it and she didn't want to show it because she was told not to.
	There could have been an excuse, but I never heard anything and I doubt it.
	I think this whole thing is just sketchy.
	But very poorly reported because of that one most important aspect left completely out.
	It's just somebody's hearsay.
	It's hearsay.
	It's useless.
	By the way, the official No Agenda porn star, Bobby Eaton, just showed up in the chat room.
	No one's listening to us.
	It's an echo chamber.
	Yeah, who cares?
	The rock diamond?
	I don't care.
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	And he's very entertaining.
	But the Crawford guy, the shop class, the soul class, to me was the most interesting.
	He's like a guy who's a motorcycle repair guy who's an addict.
	Oh, Jesse James.
	Well, he's an advocate.
	This guy seems a little smarter.
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	I'd like to just switch to Australia for a moment, get more nation down under.
	Dire straits there, John.
	Bad shit coming down.
	What now?
	Well, of course, they forced the swine flu vaccine on everyone down there.
	And, you know, of course, it was really important.
	You've got to give it to kids under five.
	You need to protect them.
	And kids are dying.
	They stopped all the vaccinations immediately.
	Kids are going into convulsions.
	They're getting, you know, severely ill.
	I think at least one died.
	And this particular vaccine is made by CLS. And I can't, for the life of me, find a proper website.
	It's like clspharma.com.
	I want to know if they've got squalene in their vaccines.
	They might.
	Yeah, there's a good number of links that I've put into the show notes at noagendashow.com.
	And, of course, we hate this because we've been saying that this is bad stuff.
	You don't want to be dealing with particularly the vaccines with squalene.
	And now they actually have stopped inoculating kids under five.
	Big Bruja.
	Thank goodness.
	And by the way, isn't this swine flu over?
	How many times can they be labored?
	It never happened.
	I heard a report that this was actually the mildest flu season on record.
	Yeah, because people got...
	It was really...
	Oops.
	Yeah.
	But it's okay, John.
	It's okay, because now we have the fungus flu.
	Oh yeah, the fungus.
	This fungus thing is...
	But they don't know what to do about this fungus.
	They got nothing.
	Oh, John.
	Oh, ye.
	This is so easy.
	Let me predict it.
	So first, let's talk about this potentially deadly strain of fungus spreading amongst animals and people in the northwestern United States and the Canadian province of British Columbia.
	Yeah.
	It's the Cryptococcus gadi, which I just love that name.
	Cryptococcus gadi flu.
	Usually only infects and transplants amongst AIDS patients and people with otherwise compromised immune systems.
	But this new strain is genetically different, researchers say.
	Does that sound familiar at all to you?
	Huh.
	So how much you want to bet we're going to have a vaccine, we're going to have to rush and we've got to create this vaccine because the fungus, it's an outbreak and it's expanding from Washington to Oregon.
	John, you're up there from time to time.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Well, that's exactly what the symptoms are.
	A cough that could last for weeks, sharp chest pains, shortness of breath, headache, fever, nighttime sweats, weight loss, and the urge to hit people in the mouth.
	Well, at least one thing is good.
	So, I would say be on the lookout for an immediate call from the World Health Organization to create a vaccine for the Cryptococcus.
	I don't think that's doable.
	Well, John, they have a vaccine for smoking.
	Well, here it is.
	It's back.
	Here it is.
	It's CNN reports.
	A vaccine.
	I repeat, a vaccine.
	Hey, by the way, talking about CNN reports, there's one floating around.
	They finally got feet on the ground or where that Tupelov Polish thing landed.
	Yeah, I have that report.
	I have that.
	Yeah, we don't need to do it.
	But the thing that cracks me up is they find pieces of the plane way before the trees.
	There's bits and pieces everywhere.
	Yeah, like an explosion took place.
	But nobody mentions it.
	And then this guy does the report at the end.
	He says, they're looking into the possibility of pilot error, mechanical failure.
	He has a laundry list of things they're looking into, but he never says, I'll play.
	No, of course not.
	The Russian soldiers are right there.
	They got him in his sights.
	He's like, you will say what we want you to say.
	You will say everything but that.
	They're not Germans.
	Right.
	A vaccine that could help people stop smoking is showing promise in early clinical trials.
	Researchers announced this week at a national meeting of addiction specialists.
	Boy, there's a meeting I should be at.
	Hey dude.
	I'm a specialist.
	I think the tech hippie needs to be there.
	Yeah.
	The vaccine is designed to stimulate the immune system, to generate antibodies that would latch onto nicotine in a smoker's body and prevent it from ever entering the brain.
	Isn't this exactly what Shantix does?
	Sounds like Shantix in a needle.
	Yeah, exactly.
	It's called Nikvax.
	Oh, you know this is bad.
	Nikvax.
	Oh my god.
	Oh, here it is.
	16% were able to stop smoking and not start again compared with 6% in the placebo group.
	They are considered statistically significant results and superior or comparable to the testing results of Zyban and Shantix.
	Yeah.
	Someone sent me a note.
	I haven't found it yet.
	Apparently there's a commercial now for a class action lawsuit against the Shantix.
	Who is that?
	AstraZeneca, I think, makes that.
	Yeah.
	No.
	I can't remember.
	It's Pfizer.
	I think it's Pfizer.
	Pfizer, yeah.
	But anyway, the whole point, of course, is that it can't be a vaccine.
	It's not the correct terminology.
	Yeah.
	It's not a vaccine.
	Smoking is not a virus.
	It's just not.
	But it's coming.
	Nick Vax.
	This is all part of the changing the words, changing the meanings of words.
	Nudity is porn.
	And just so you know, in the new health care bill, every single vaccine has no co-payment.
	It's all paid for.
	100%.
	So it's just a huge money maker for the farms.
	That was the deal.
	That was the behind closed door deal that was made.
	Hell yeah.
	And Stevia is really...
	You remember we were tracking the prices of sugar before and we were like, okay, where is it?
	It's going to happen.
	Where's the new sugar?
	It's got to be on the radar pretty soon.
	So Stevia, or Truvia, as the brand name goes, which is not pure Stevia, of course.
	They put some other stuff in there.
	Very hard to find the actual ingredients of Truvia, which is what I think Coca-Cola company is going to be using.
	The problem with Stevia, which I've used, is it's bitter.
	It's not going to work.
	Well, I'm just seeing the PR campaign.
	Yeah, if it's going to flop, it's going to be like clear coke.
	Did you see what Time did?
	Time wrote an article saying that, you know, and this of course is a complete pure Stevia article, saying that, oh, you know, by the way, sweet and low can make you fat!
	Heh heh.
	So all these, uh...
	Here comes the PR people.
	Yeah, all the sugar substitutes.
	They can make you fat!
	So you need stevia.
	It's a plant.
	With some other stuff added for your benefit.
	So, uh...
	Nothing on salt, though, today.
	We're still waiting for the next salt product.
	It's so obvious.
	You know?
	It's just so obvious how this works.
	And the media just jumps on board with all this crap and reads the press release.
	Ooh!
	Well, here's a press release I must have just read.
	Play the dog bones clip.
	Okay.
	Well, the FDA has a bone to pick with some of you dog owners out.
	Right, it's the same guy who writes Entertainment Tonight is writing this news report.
	It's a really funny little line.
	He didn't write any news report.
	This was handed to him, obviously.
	But this is really funny because he got a bone to pick.
	Rough, rough, rough.
	Well, the FDA has a bone to pick with some of you dog owners out there.
	The food safety watchdogs say that you really should not feed your dog any bones.
	You know, animal bones.
	They say even large bones, like those from a ham or a roast, can cause serious injuries, even death, believe it or not.
	Bones can chip or break your dog's teeth, cut tongues, or even worse, bone fragments have been known to puncture the stomach and the intestines from the splinter.
	What a crock of crap!
	And that can be life-threatening.
	Oh, I've had dogs all my life.
	I have had...
	We've got tons of dogs.
	You know, this is...
	What is the point?
	And why is the FDA suddenly involved in pet care?
	Is this really an FDA report?
	Did you look at this?
	No.
	Is there an FDA dog bones?
	No, you're kidding me.
	No.
	Why is the FDA involved in pet care?
	Dog owner advice.
	Here it is.
	FDA issues warning about dogs and dog bones.
	Oh my God.
	Well, maybe they're in charge of it.
	Maybe the FDA is in charge of animals.
	I think they want to be.
	It's just a more government takeover, just everything, every aspect of our lives.
	Don't feed your dog bones, says the U.S. federal government.
	All right, so then we might as well talk about the business plot part two.
	Because that's what I see happening here, John.
	The business plot, of course, was, was that Roosevelt?
	When that took place?
	Yeah.
	The business plot.
	What business plot?
	The infamous business plot to overthrow the American government.
	Oh yeah, that was part of the Democrats trying to push Roosevelt aside and replace him with Smedley.
	Right, but it was mainly financed, of course, by bankers.
	Yeah, it was big guys.
	DuPont, there's a whole bunch of big boys.
	Yeah, J.P. Morgan, DuPont, all the big boys.
	They wanted to essentially overthrow...
	The government.
	The government, and then put Schmegley, Schmegma, what's his name?
	Schmedley?
	Schmedley Butler.
	Schmedley.
	But he blew the whistle, right?
	Schmedley.
	Yeah, he's a good guy.
	Yeah.
	So Schmedley blew the whistle.
	And I think this, of course, happened in, was it, 33, 34?
	I think it was 34.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	I think that they just went back again and just been planning for the past 70 years, and they're just doing it.
	They're like, okay, now's our chance.
	Because if you look, because now, of course, the president, his new health care bill, the next part that has to be taken over is, of course, the financial industry.
	But it's not really the government regulating the financial industry.
	It's the financial industry regulating the government and taking over.
	And I just want to remind you of the people who are brought into President Obama's cabinet.
	The people who are already in there.
	And that will maybe shed some light on this Goldman Sachs thing, which I think we should talk about just briefly.
	Do you have any clips or anything to talk about?
	No, I'm totally off the Sachs thing today.
	Really?
	You don't like it?
	You're not into it?
	Because it's pretty big.
	Yeah, I just don't have a handle on it yet.
	Well, here's the way I see it.
	By the way, and I think they're going to get off scot-free, and I know exactly what the mechanism is.
	Okay.
	Well, we'll get to that in one moment.
	Just briefly, if you look at Larry Summers, Director of the National Economic Council, Obama's top economic advisor, last year, $5 million he got as Managing Director of D.E. Shaw, big hedge fund, $2.7 million from speeches delivered to Wall Street.
	Including those that receive bailout money, $45,000 from Citigroup, $67,500 from JPMorgan Chase.
	John, we're in the wrong business.
	We need to hit the road.
	Yeah, the problem is I do public speaking and I get like a normal fee.
	Most of these fees, you know, Sarah Palin probably makes legitimate money floating around giving speeches, but when these guys are getting $2 million a year and you've never really heard of them and they shouldn't, those are not really speakers' fees, those are bribes.
	Yeah, so from Goldman Sachs, Larry Summers got $135,000 for a speech.
	Nice work if you can get it.
	Michael Froman, Deputy National Security Advisor for International Economic Affairs.
	His business card is five feet long.
	Worked for Citigroup.
	And got more than $7.4 million from the bank in January of 2008, and then, of course, he entered the Obama administration.
	This included a $2.25 million year-end bonus.
	David Axelrod, Obama's campaign strategist, now senior advisor to the president, was paid $1.55 million in 2008 from two consulting firms he controls, agreed to the buyouts that will get him another $3 million over the next five years.
	So that's a nice little payoff there.
	Obama's Deputy National Security Advisor, Thomas E. Danilin, paid $3.9 million by a Washington law firm whose clients include Citigroup, Goldman Sachs, and private equity firm Apollo Management, another good company to look into.
	Louis Caldera, director of the White House Military Office, a quarter million dollars a year from IndyMac.
	And even Rahm Emanuel was tied up in a multi-million dollar deal on which he advised along with Goldman Sachs.
	I think he made eight million dollars from that.
	So those are just some of the puppets who are hanging out in the administration.
	And there's this awesome article, which I think you should just read it, and then we'll move into John's theory on Goldman, in TheAtlantic.com.
	It's called The Quiet Coup.
	The crash has laid bare many unpleasant truths about the United States.
	One of the most alarming, says a former chief economist of the IMF, is that the finance industry has effectively captured our government, a state of affairs that more typically describes emerging markets and is at the center of many emerging market crises.
	If the IMF staff could speak freely about the U.S., it would tell us what it tells all countries in this situation.
	Recovery will fail unless we break the financial oligarchy that is blocking essential reform.
	And it must be like an eight-page article that's really worth reading.
	And when I look at the information that is available about this financial reform, which is just another word.
	I think maybe we should just call it what it is.
	The next bailout.
	Financial reform.
	This is like the dagger going right into the jugular.
	And I believe that this is pretty much...
	All they need is...
	I think they already have the guy.
	They did it differently this time.
	Instead of trying to kick a guy out, they put the guy in.
	Yeah, this is part of the reason that this is going to come to any sort of fruition.
	It's not going to be a big deal.
	The thing that's going to happen is that Goldman may lose a few clients overseas.
	But their rationale, in the end of the day, even though there's some emails now floating around that are pretty condemning, but you can always, you know, the way we've done, we already have the meme out there that these emails are taken out of context.
	Oh, yes.
	So, you know, there's a couple of things going on.
	I mean, the global warming people have gotten most of these techniques down to a T, and you just copy that.
	But Goldman can rationalize, look, yeah, we were selling these mortgage-backed securities, and sure, we made a ton of money on the other side of the trade because we also were buying...
	We insured them cheap through AIG. Yeah.
	So, what's wrong with that?
	You have to balance...
	I mean, you do have to...
	It's not illegal.
	It's just not...
	It's not illegal, and it's like you have to do it to protect your investments if you know what you're doing.
	The thing is that they're one of the few people that actually got in on a seminar given by John Paulson, who was the guy who found out about the credit default obligations and credit default swaps at a little broker or a little...
	He was a...
	Brown shoe.
	No, it was a management company.
	It was a little trading company.
	He wasn't a consultant.
	He was like a broker.
	But this is not related to the other Paulson.
	And...
	Anyway, he had him and his pal, another book that needs to be in the library, which is the world's, I think it's called The World's Greatest Trade, or The World's Biggest Trade, or The Biggest Trade, something like that.
	Anyway, I listened to this guy give a lecture, and apparently Paulson had figured out that this thing was a big bubble, and it was going to be a mess, and so he started giving seminars about it in New York.
	Unfortunately, we didn't attend.
	And the CEO of Goldman Sachs went to one of them and says, Hey!
	Hey, good idea!
	He says, I think you got something here.
	But apparently nobody else in any of the other firms, including Lehman and everyone else, they thought this was crazy.
	It was just a waste of money.
	And the Goldman guy said, No, I think this is probably a good thing.
	And they did.
	And they ended up coming out smelling like a rose.
	I think they're going to have a lot of trouble proving any wrongdoing by the Goldman folks.
	And...
	Well, so here's what happens.
	So immediately, of course, the SEC investigates Goldman, which is bogus, because I think you're right, John, and we said this on Thursday, they didn't do anything illegal, unscrupulous.
	Yeah, they're bankers.
	What do you expect?
	They didn't do anything illegal, and this wasn't like little mom and pops investing.
	These are like huge whales investing.
	Do you have an account with Goldman Sachs?
	Do you have a broker over there, John?
	I don't.
	Any Goldman guys out there listening to the show?
	Yeah, I don't know.
	How about donating?
	Yeah, really.
	So what is the Goldman spin machine?
	And now I understand why Obama immediately comes out and says, the SEC didn't tell me.
	They didn't tell me.
	I didn't know anything about that.
	They're doing this all on their own initiative.
	And of course, the big news this week tells us why he divorced himself from the SEC's action.
	Oh, and ABC News exclusive about what goes on behind the scenes of a powerful federal agency supposed to be policing the financial system.
	Is it possible a lot of the time some of them were watching porn?
	Here's Jonathan Karl.
	Some high-level Securities and Exchange Commission officials have spent more time viewing pornography than investigating Ponzi schemes.
	A new report obtained by ABC News reveals a staggering obsession with pornography, viewed for hours at a time on SEC computers.
	Sites like Naughty.com, Skankwire, YouPorn, and others with names you can't say on TV. Skankwire, write it down!
	The specifics are stunning.
	One senior attorney at SEC headquarters in Washington spent up to eight hours a day accessing internet porn.
	An SEC accountant attempted to access porn websites 1,800 times in a two week period.
	She had 600 pornographic images.
	Okay, let's stop right there.
	These numbers don't add up.
	I know.
	I heard the numbers and I thought they were pretty bogus.
	So first of all, if there was a woman out there, and maybe if Bobby Eden is still in the chat room, do you know any woman, Bobby being of course a porn star, any woman who watches 600 hours of porn?
	I want to marry this woman!
	Where is she?
	Where is she?
	This does not exist.
	These women do not exist.
	And then 8,000 hours?
	What is it, watching like two clips a minute?
	It doesn't make any sense.
	The 8,000 hours doesn't make any sense.
	The whole thing is nothing to see here, by the way.
	I'm surprised you didn't play that.
	You know, okay.
	Don't look over here!
	Nothing to see here!
	Ooh, look at that.
	It's a whole nothing to see here thing.
	I don't know what the point of it is.
	There's some other, something else going on, and they're trying to distract us, and they're doing a pretty good job of it.
	This story cropped up everywhere.
	It's always like a big deal.
	I got more email about this story, which, by the way, when I get a lot of email about one story like this, that is kind of weird.
	We never talk about it.
	I generally don't talk about it because there's obviously a nothing-to-see-hear thing and people are being suckered into paying attention to it.
	And it makes so little sense.
	It's probably like, if it was true, it's probably like some spyware or something that's just hitting these sites and doing banner clicks or something like that.
	You're right, the numbers don't end up.
	One of the things is somebody was hitting a thousand sites a day.
	Why?
	Why?
	I mean, was every site boring?
	Oh, here's one.
	Nope.
	Let me go another one.
	Boring.
	Boring.
	Let's follow the path, John.
	Let's follow the path.
	The financial crisis could have been averted if the SEC had not been watching porn, so we need to shut down the internet!
	And Clinton talked about it, and you talked about the cleaner net, which is the word clean.
	Yes, this is part of a strategy of kind of demonizing the net as a horrible place and a time waster for people in government agencies hurting the public by going on these sites.
	This is so much BS, it's almost hard to believe.
	Yeah, and a report obtained by ABC News!
	And who are these people?
	Let's bring them out and talk to them in front of a congressional hearing.
	I want to hear their story.
	Yeah, me too.
	And let's put them on a sex affair list.
	Where are they?
	Who are they?
	Names, names, names, I tell ya!
	I think we need to play both of them at the same time.
	I played two at the same time.
	So, um...
	No, I want to see who these people are.
	This is a bogus situation.
	You know what?
	We need to demand that.
	We need to demand to see these people.
	I want them in front of Congress.
	I want them to explain to myself.
	I want to see that woman who watched 600 hours of porn.
	I want to see her.
	I want to know the profile of this person.
	I'd like to see what she looks like.
	Yeah!
	She wears glasses?
	Is she fat?
	Is she thin?
	Is she skinny?
	Is she anorexic?
	We need to know.
	We need to know.
	This is important.
	On her government computer hard drive.
	Let's listen.
	This just slays me.
	I'm in a two-week period.
	Wait a minute.
	In a two-week period?
	Hold on.
	Today, accessing internet porn.
	An SEC accountant attempted to access porn websites 1,800 times in a two-week period.
	She had 600 pornographic images on her government computer hard drive.
	What?
	Now, I love porn.
	I wish I had a collection like that.
	You should spend more time on porn sites, then.
	A senior enforcement officer had a thumb drive connected to his SEC computer with five videos depicting hardcore pornography.
	What is that?
	What is hardcore?
	We don't know.
	They won't tell us.
	Yeah, because it's so secretive.
	The investigation, which was conducted by the SEC internal watchdog at the request of Senator Chuck Grassley, found 31 serious offenders over the past two and a half years.
	17 of them...
	This is bull!
	Who is this Grassley guy?
	I'm going to find out.
	What's his first name?
	I'm going to listen again.
	Poor pornography.
	The investigation, which was conducted by the SEC internal watchdog at the request of Senator Chuck Grassley, found 31 serious offenders over the past two and a half years.
	Hold on.
	officers with salaries ranging from one hundred thousand to two hundred and twenty two thousand dollars a year nice money the SEC would not comment on specific cases but says it takes inappropriate use of government resources seriously and this there's sex offenders with abuses on a case-by-case basis Most of this began happening in 2008, just as the financial system was collapsing.
	And it's considered that the most recent case is from just four weeks ago.
	Many of the offenders are still on the job.
	Jonathan Karl, ABC News, Capitol Hill.
	So tell me about Chuck Grassley.
	Grassley, you've seen this guy a million times.
	He's all over the place.
	He's a senior senator from Iowa.
	I don't have anything bad to say about him offhand.
	He's got a newsletter blog.
	This is funny, the Grassley blog.
	Ask Chuck.
	Hey Chuck, can we see the chick who had 600 porn movies on her hard drive?
	That's my question for Chuck.
	Go to, what's the website?
	Everyone should be asking that on his website.
	grassley.senate.gov G-R-A-S-S-L-E-Y Can you comment on his blog?
	I'm looking, right now it's just hanging up.
	Of course.
	All the no agenda militia are surfing to it as we speak.
	Yeah, we'll go to Chuck Grassley's site and demand to see these people.
	He voted for TARP, of course.
	He voted for the Patriot Act.
	If these guys are doing this, there's no reason that they have to...
	They're not juveniles.
	They're not 14-year-olds that have to be hidden from the public view.
	So let's bring them out into the open.
	I want to see who these people are.
	There is nobody.
	That's why they won't do it.
	Wasn't the president going to name and shame?
	Wasn't that the whole thing here?
	Name and shame.
	Whatever happened to that?
	Name and shame.
	Name and shame.
	We want to see it.
	It's a bogus story.
	I got a good story for you.
	UK drivers better stay under the speed limit, reports, I think the Times, or the Telegraph.
	An American company called Pips Technology, P-I-P-S, has developed a system that uses two cameras on the ground and one satellite in orbit to catch speeders.
	The system is called Speed Spike.
	And it figures out your average speed between two points, captures an image of your license plate, and reports if you're going faster than the law allows.
	And if you're hoping Great Britain's notoriously gray weather will save you, you're out of luck.
	The system works even when it's cloudy or dark.
	Speed Spike will be tested in two places.
	The London Borough of Southwark and along the A374 between Torpoint and Anthony in Cornwall.
	What do you think?
	Do you think that's real?
	I think it's doable.
	I don't know if they're doing it.
	It could be a bluff.
	Pips Technology.
	Have a look into it.
	That's pretty wild.
	Let's play a clip or two that I wanted to get to today.
	First of all, I would like to finish the show late with a fairly long clip from Jack Cashill, a Popes and Bankers guy.
	But he does have an interesting little, smaller little comment that's called Signed with an X that I thought was interesting.
	He's kind of a guy who likes to laugh and makes night remarks.
	Is he a good guy or a bad guy?
	I think he's a good guy.
	We want to listen to this?
	Yeah, sign with X. Would-be homeowners, get a house.
	Get a house.
	Get it quick.
	Get it no matter how you can get it.
	I found this 1992 article from the New York Times in which they're talking about ACORN, which at that time struck them as just this wonderful new rejuvenating organization bringing equity to the housing market.
	In 1991, they had a two-day takeover of the House Banking Committee, and the newspapers celebrated it.
	Isn't that cool?
	Isn't that neat?
	Protest!
	Remember when dissent was patriotic?
	You know, what was that?
	It was just like a year ago, wasn't it?
	And now it's dissent.
	Dissent is racist today, but a year and a half ago it was patriotic.
	In 1991, it was wonderful.
	You and your buddies come in, you take over the House Banking Committee for two years, you throw everything around, and you get on the front page of the New York Times, it's good guys!
	Because you're liberating the housing market from the entrenched racist classes.
	Now, so New York Times is writing about this.
	And here's what they say.
	This is 1992.
	No one who gets a mortgage ever has to go beyond the Philadelphia Acorn office.
	It's about Philadelphia.
	Like, this is a good thing.
	The Times then highlights acorn-assisted borrowers who did not speak English, had no credit history, or, this one I like best, had to sign X for their name, right?
	They're celebrating this.
	This is in 1992.
	These are the same people who, 10, 15 years later, were going to be criticizing Wall Street for getting involved in his business.
	Of course, because it's a takeover.
	It was all planned this way.
	Planned.
	Planned demolition.
	Well, it works.
	Just like 9-11.
	So, I've got the...
	Meanwhile, he has a long exposition, which I like to play at the end of the show, if you can remember.
	What is the...
	I'll just cue that up.
	Marriage and home ownership.
	Okay, I'll cue that one up for him.
	He has a theory about marriage and home ownership that I thought was interesting.
	I'm not sure if it's actually 100% valid, but I've never heard it before.
	Okay, we'll play that after we're done.
	Yeah.
	And now, if we still want to place more stuff...
	Let me just do a quick Magic Numbers update, because you know we believe in them.
	Because they work.
	They do work.
	They work for people who donate Magic Numbers, and of course the Magic Numbers 3.
	Tim Tillman...
	Who was a knight?
	By the way, FDR was big into magic numbers.
	When he set the price of gold at 21 cents...
	Oh, really?
	...is three times seven, two magic numbers multiplied.
	Listening to No Agenda with Sigourney Weaver, you guys missed a meme in her special little speech.
	Here it is.
	The oceans are 30% more acidic now than before the Industrial Revolution.
	If we don't act, they will be 30% more acidic in 90 years.
	Plankton shells are 30% less strong.
	So we missed all those numbers.
	But the best one...
	Oh, that's interesting.
	I didn't catch the numbers at all.
	How did we miss that?
	The best one is the Sony PlayStation 3...
	Update 3.30 with firmware 3.30 will bring you 3D. I mean, does it get any better?
	These guys are like, hey man, let's really clean up.
	You watch this be the most successful game console ever with this release.
	The PS3 3.30 firmware upgrade for 3D games.
	I mean, they have really layered it on, haven't they?
	That's pretty funny.
	You gotta love it.
	You gotta love it.
	The X-37B military space plane that launched from Cape Canaveral, which of course, I don't think anyone's really covering that.
	Yeah, no, I've seen a lot of stories about it.
	It's not very in-depth, but there's plenty of stuff.
	Well, yeah, there's stuff online, but I haven't seen any launch video or anything like that.
	And this is all really secretive.
	They make a big deal about the secretiveness.
	Well, yeah, it can stay up in the air for 270 days, unmanned.
	U.S. defense officials would not say how much the project had cost...
	Thursday's launch was more about testing the craft, but now according to Times Online, of course we have to get our national news from Gitmo Nation East, they say that there may be a secret weapon in the payload bay.
	Well, here it is.
	An earthquake machine in the sky.
	Well, listen to this.
	Remember we talked about the...
	Here, with all the focus...
	Oh, this is a nothing to see here moment.
	Don't look over here!
	Nothing to see here!
	Ooh, look at that!
	With all the focus on the launch of the secret X-37B, another space launch by a Minotaur 4 rocket from Vandenberg Air Force Base in California received less attention.
	It was carrying the prototype of a new weapon that can hit any target around the world in less than an hour.
	Huh.
	Well, that is a nothing-to-see-her moment, then.
	So they slipped a Doomsday weapon up there.
	Oh, okay.
	So the X-37...
	What does it mean, hit any target?
	Is it pinpoint accurate?
	It literally says, and I'm just reading from the Times online, the prompt global strike, I guess that's what this secret weapon is called, is designed as the conventional weapon of the future.
	Oh, here it is.
	It could hit Osama bin Laden's cave...
	The mysterious cave.
	An Iranian nuclear site or a North Korean missile with a huge conventional warhead.
	It's amazing!
	Well, we can get out of Afghanistan now.
	We're going to zap Osama Bin Laden.
	Yeah, in his cave.
	In his cave.
	Let me look at this.
	Yeah, new Minotaur rocket launches April 23rd.
	Wow, that was a total distraction, John.
	Here it is, the Minotaur 4 booster flying in a downsized 360.
	You just discovered this now on the air live?
	Yes.
	I hate to say it.
	So they launched that thing at the same time they launched the X-37B. Wow.
	I wish I'd known that we're launching something.
	Vandenberg is off in the rocket supply over Northern California.
	And it's actually quite a sight to see one of these things in the air, especially when the booster goes off or the second stage goes off.
	You can see it's quite entertaining.
	It's a DARPA project.
	I wonder what it is.
	Well, it's a space weapon.
	That's a big spray gun in space.
	How many times do I have to tell you that this space war is going on?
	It's flashes in the middle of the night, which you call meteors.
	I can't see the thing being accurate from that distance.
	Dude, they can read your license plate.
	Then they can Zappos.
	They're saying it right there.
	We can Zapposama Bin Laden.
	Let me Google this.
	What do they call it again?
	They have the name here.
	Someone must have sent out a press release.
	What was it called?
	Well, you know, if the Times Online out in London has this story, how come we didn't hear about any of this at all in the U.S. that I know of?
	I don't know.
	Should have been on CNN. Should have been Wolf Blitzer.
	Or Joy Behar.
	The prompt global strike.
	Let's just Google this.
	Popular Mechanics.
	Oh, those are the PR guys, right?
	Here it is.
	Popular Mechanics is in magazine.
	No, Popular Mechanics is the PR guys for the government.
	It's all their secret shit.
	Yeah, here it is.
	A whispered warning of a North Korean nuclear launch or of a shipment of biotoxins bound for a Hezbollah stronghold in Lebanon.
	This is great.
	These guys are creative.
	Word races through the American Intelligence Network until it reaches U.S. Strategic Command Headquarters, the Pentagon, and eventually the White House.
	In the Pacific, a nuclear-powered Ohio-class submarine surface is ready for the President's command to launch.
	When the order comes, the sub shoots a 65-ton Trident II ballistic missile into the sky.
	That's just a setup.
	Yeah, what's that got to do with the thing in the space vehicle?
	The military is convinced that in the coming years it will need to act with this kind of speed against threats.
	Terrorist leaders smuggled nuclear or chemical arms.
	We know how to strike precisely.
	We know how to strike at long distances, says Kaler, whose office is in charge of the Defense Department's global strike mission.
	What's different now is the sense of time.
	And then they're showing all these diagrams how this thing works.
	This thing up in the sky.
	Amazing.
	Yeah, Popular Mechanics.
	They're the guys that...
	Is Popular Science or Popular Mechanics?
	Popular Mechanics.
	Oh, they said Popular Science.
	No, Popular Mechanics.
	Okay.
	Yeah, Popular Mechanics are the guys who are like, oh, yes, steel can melt from jet fuel.
	Look, we have proof.
	That's these guys.
	That's why you've got to read them.
	They're the PR agency for the government.
	Nice.
	Alright, so I have a clip that we should play now, which will change the pace.
	Okay.
	Gay irony.
	Should we go straight into it, or does it require a setup?
	Yeah, just play it.
	Three members of a team from San Francisco's Gay Softball League say organizers of the Gay Softball World Series harassed them for not being gay enough.
	Three members of the team happen to be not exclusively gay.
	And that was enough for organizers of the tournament in Seattle to march them into a room and cross-examine them about their sexual habits and preferences.
	The team was then disqualified for having too many non-gay members.
	Let's hook you up to the gaydar and make sure you're gay enough.
	Does anybody find this highly ironic?
	I think if you want to play softball at all, you want to be on the gay softball team, you're gay enough.
	You know, the thing is that this is the team that won, so they were immediately under suspicion.
	Really?
	You're kidding me.
	Like, you're not gay.
	They're not gays on your team.
	You gotta be kidding me.
	This is ridiculous.
	Totally.
	What was that, CNN? No, that was our local news.
	It's a San Francisco thing.
	Oh, my God.
	Stop.
	That's crazy.
	They got disqualified for not being gay enough.
	Oh, please.
	Oh, geez.
	The president is lying this weekend.
	He was lying last show.
	He's really lying about his...
	By the way, his performance on his weekly address, really poor performance, dude.
	Oh, really?
	I thought he was getting better.
	Oh, my God.
	If you hear, he's like stumbling.
	There's four edits in this one because he had to do pickups because he clearly sucked.
	He looks really shaky.
	He looks like...
	They're probably drugging him like they did Bush.
	You know, I'm telling you...
	It might be something like that because he's really not...
	I mean, it's not good.
	He looks like he's over-caffeinated and...
	Just listen to him about the...
	Well, let's listen to his...
	Let's view it as media people.
	I think that would be even more interesting.
	How poorly he is performing on your weekly address for April 24th.
	It was a little more than one year ago that our country faced a potentially devastating crisis in our auto industry.
	Over the course of 2008...
	By the way, who does this set?
	They've got like a bush that they've planted on a desk.
	There's a little studio that somebody furnishes.
	Well, it's shit.
	It's really crap.
	Somebody did a study on it.
	I don't know.
	This is the dark-haired Obama.
	This is not the gray-haired Obama.
	Okay.
	The industry shed 400,000 jobs in the midst of a financial crisis and deep recession.
	Actually, let me just skip ahead to the bad part.
	He goes through all these edits.
	In addition, Chrysler Financial has already fully repaid with interest the loans it received to serve 45,000 jobs, the strongest growth in a decade.
	And Chrysler announced an operating profit in the first three months of this year.
	This is the first time Chrysler has reported a profit since the beginning of the economic crisis.
	What's more, GM announced that it paid back its loans to taxpayers with interest fully five years ahead of schedule.
	It won't be too long before the stock the Treasury is holding and GM can...
	Do you hear how the stock the Treasury is holding?
	Because it's on the next line of the prompter.
	The guy didn't even read this script to prepare.
	Helping to reimburse the American people for their investment.
	That was a bad read.
	In addition, Chrysler Financial has already fully repaid with interest the loans it received to support auto financing.
	And we're closing the books on the temporary program that helped parts suppliers weather this storm.
	Returning this investment to the Treasury in full, with interest as well.
	Finally, we're bringing to an end many of the emergency programs designed to stabilize the financial sector and restart lending so folks could finance cars and trucks, as well as homes and small business.
	As well as homes and small business?
	On Friday, in fact, the Treasury Department informed Congress that this financial rescue, which was absolutely necessary to prevent an even worse economic disaster...
	How unconvincing is he?
	I mean, even at MTV, we'd be like, yeah, let's burn that.
	That was a pretty shitty read, Obama.
	Yeah, he's faxing it in.
	Yeah.
	We'll end up costing taxpayers a fraction of what was originally feared.
	This is a direct result of the careful management of the investments made by the American people so that we could recoup as many tax dollars as possible and as quickly as possible.
	These steps, as well as others we've taken, have meant that millions of people are working today who might otherwise have lost their jobs.
	But these steps were never meant to be permanent.
	As I've said many times, I did not run for president to get into the auto business or the banking business.
	As essential as it was that we got in, I'm glad to see that we're getting out.
	At the same time, even as we've come a long way, we still...
	These steps were never meant to be permanent.
	As I've said many times, I did not run for president to get into the auto business or the banking business.
	As essential as it was that we got in, I'm glad to see that we're getting out.
	At the same time, even as we've come a long way, we still have a ways to go.
	The auto industry is more stable today, and the economy is on a better footing.
	But people are still hurting.
	I hear from them just about every day, in letters I read, and in the towns and cities that I visit.
	I don't know why you get such a kick out of this.
	I just find it just to be boring.
	Well, I just...
	Because he's like...
	Why...
	If this president...
	If he could actually stand there and if he said something from his heart that he meant, it would be great.
	But now it's really showing.
	And the lie is that GM paid back their loans.
	He's lying.
	Because GM paid back their loans with an escrow account with the treasury.
	With TARP money.
	So basically they repaid TARP money with TARP money.
	Did you know this?
	No.
	Yeah.
	I thought the whole thing was fishy, though, when they first said it.
	How did that happen?
	Let me read to you.
	They haven't been making tons of money.
	I mean, what was the point of repaying back the loan?
	So the president can go read something.
	He needs some copy for the prompter.
	But here, from the 8K filing, from GM, filing with the SEC, Of the $42.6 billion in cash and marketable securities available to General Motors as of September 30th, $17.4 billion came from an escrow account with Treasury.
	$6.7 billion of the escrow account available to GM was allocable to the repayment of loans to the Treasury.
	They're saying it right there on their filing!
	Well, they have to say it in the filing.
	That's a case.
	You have to be pretty honest.
	Yeah, but of course.
	But then the president gets up.
	Hey, they paid back their loans.
	Yeah, with another loan.
	Why?
	Big liar.
	It's not a lie, but it's basically a lie.
	It's a misdirection.
	It's the Ministry of Truth at work.
	All right.
	You got another clip?
	Something funny?
	Funny?
	The gay irony was the funniest one.
	I've been looking at he is a she.
	Come on, that's got to be funny.
	He is a she is not that funny.
	It's about that creep that claimed to have shot or killed Rene Ramsey, that little twerp, and he's now had a sex change.
	And he's hanging out in a battered women's shelter in Seattle.
	Alright, I don't need to play the clip.
	That's already funny enough.
	It's just ridiculous.
	I do want to give props to the pirate party.
	This is something that seems to be spreading.
	They now have the Piraterpartei in the Netherlands.
	And this is kind of like a new tea party.
	Only a global one.
	And they're not connected as far as I can tell.
	But they're just calling themselves the Pirate Party.
	And they're actually getting votes.
	And they're getting seats in parliaments.
	You know, one or two here or there.
	But it seems to be for real.
	Yeah.
	I've been kind of following it.
	I kind of like it.
	You know, it gives these guys something to do.
	Alright, you want to play a long clip and we can finish the show with this?
	Yeah, sure.
	This is the guy who wrote the book, Shop Class as Soul Class.
	I found the entire, he was interviewed on C-SPAN, and I found this and the other clip that I have on here, which is creepy management comments, to be extremely disturbing and, I don't know, just plain, you'll see what I'm talking about.
	...of work, and we've developed a kind of educational monoculture, I think, where just about every kid gets, you know, hustled off to college and then onto a certain track where you end up working in a cubicle.
	And I think the truth is that some people, including some who are plenty smart, would rather be learning to build things or fix things, and I think we should honor that.
	What do you think when you hear the phrase knowledge-based society or information age?
	It's partly hype, I think.
	We've had this idea that I think arose in the 90s that somehow we're going to be gliding around in a pure information economy.
	And accordingly, shop classes were pretty widely dismantled in the 90s to make room for computer classes.
	I first became aware of this issue when I realized that there was a glut of shop equipment on eBay, so milling machines, table saws, metal lathes, and I guess the reason it was disturbing to see the stuff sitting in warehouses was that the disappearance of those tools from our common education I think is the first step
	toward a wider ignorance of things, how they're made and how to repair them.
	And parallel to that, there is in fact a kind of design philosophy that's emerged where the point seems to be to hide the works.
	So for example, if you lift the hood on some cars now, there's essentially another hood under the hood.
	And I'm not sure what the thinking is.
	Maybe that the sight of an alternator would offend us somehow.
	So it's become harder to get a handle on your own stuff.
	That's very interesting.
	It gets more interesting, but since you stopped there, let me mention something.
	When I was a kid, we had shop class, we had wood class, we had metal working class, there was auto shop, there was metal shop, there was wood shop.
	And even if you were a college prep kid, you had to take one of these things.
	I took wood shop and made a cutting board or something like that and a box.
	But the point was that a lot of kids, they kind of went in that direction, and then they became mechanics or plumbers or whatever they became because they weren't interested in going to college.
	Why should everyone go to college?
	Some people don't want to go to college.
	But now they push everybody to either go to college, take some AP, get into the best school you can, and then what do you do?
	Like he said, you work in a cubicle.
	But I didn't realize it until he mentioned it, but now I think about it, they have dismantled All these shop classes, so no schools have them anymore.
	And they also, there's no, they're dropping PE, so you have a bunch of fat kids.
	Kids don't, you know, they don't have any place to...
	No music.
	And no music and no art.
	Yeah.
	And another one that disappeared first, which I think began the whole process, was home ec.
	Yeah, cooking.
	Until the 80s or 90s, home economics, which actually was a requirement for women or girls who were in high school to taste whether they liked it or not.
	Now we have an entire generation, no offense to those who were insulted by home ec, but we have an entire generation of women who can't boil an egg.
	You know, John, it's all part of the plan!
	Say it with me now!
	You can't boil an egg!
	You can't fix your car!
	You need to shut up, slave.
	So he brings it back together in a very kind of even more depressing way as he wraps up his little spiel here.
	You might as well play it from here.
	He's self-reliant because of certain changes in material culture.
	Some high-end cars now don't even have a dipstick, so you couldn't check your own oil level if you wanted to.
	And I know that I'm not the only person who's a little creeped out by this.
	I mean, with some cards, if your oil level gets low, you're sent an email from someplace.
	Now, I mean, to go down that thread a little bit, it used to be that in addition to a dipstick, you had something called an idiot light.
	And it was called an idiot light for a reason.
	We had a harsh judgment of anyone who was so uninvolved in their own car that they let it get to the point that the light is coming out.
	But there's some weird cultural logic whereby idiocy, that is a lack of involvement, gets recast as something desirable.
	It's an indication of technological progress.
	And of course, it is a kind of progress when you no longer have to mess around with dipsticks and dirty rags.
	But I also want to notice that there is a kind of moral education that is tacit in material culture.
	It can go in various directions.
	So the way things are going currently, it often feels like the modern personality is getting reformed on the basis of passivity and dependence.
	There's fewer occasions to be directly responsible for your own physical environment.
	And with that, I think, comes less expectation of responsibility.
	Yeah.
	Makes a good point.
	Yeah.
	Hey, we forgot to do our knighthood, John.
	Are we stupid slaves or what?
	Well, it's a good time to do it.
	We can do it.
	Ah, let's do it now.
	Okay.
	Because he sent his money through wire transfer.
	Gear!
	Get your ass over here!
	Hey!
	Later, Ryan.
	Please kneel before us as we unsheathe.
	John, unsheathe for a minute, will you?
	There you go.
	We now knight thee, serve gear, knight of the No Agenda Roundtable.
	Please join us and your son for some hookers and blows.
	It's a nice family thing to do.
	Father, son.
	Father, son, hooker and blow.
	It doesn't get any better than that.
	Actually, it does get better as Stephen Hawking, who I know you hold in high regard, John.
	Smarter than me.
	He says, I'm certain extraterrestrials exist.
	However, you may not want to contact them because they might just simply raid the Earth for resources and move on.
	If aliens visit us, the outcome would be much as when Columbus landed in America, he said, which didn't turn out well for Native Americans.
	Let that be a warning from the professor.
	Yeah, and a good one.
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	We'll talk to you again on Thursday, right here on No Agenda.
	And that's part of our legacy.
	Once we understand ourselves better, we can shuck this, I think, I hope.
	Come up in 1969.
	Richard Nixon's elected president in January.
	He's inaugurated in 1969.
	January 20th.
	The home ownership rate in 1969 is 65%.
	It's been steadily increasing from 1945 when it was about 45%.
	Up, up, up, up, up.
	Everyone believes, and I believe, we probably all believe, that home ownership is a good thing.
	And the presidents have been pushing it ever since...
	Ever since Hoover, really, started as the Secretary of Commerce.
	FDR did, Truman did, Eisenhower did, VA loans, FHA loans, etc.
	65% in 1969.
	Something else happens in 1969.
	And that is California passes, and some of you were there probably, for the first time, no-fault divorce.
	And Californians celebrated that by going out and...
	Getting divorced in record numbers.
	In 1970, there were more divorces in California than there were marriages in 1960.
	Now, in the middle of the country, if you get divorced, you lament it.
	In California, you celebrate it.
	It becomes part of the culture.
	Hollywood had been doing this forever.
	And they had long since lost the moral capability of telling people that marriage is good.
	They had long forgotten what Jesus had told them 2,000 years before, that let no man tear asunder, what God has joined together.
	In 1980...
	The divorce rate in California, for some reason they thought no-fault divorce would solve the divorce problem, like it would cause a decline.
	But it didn't.
	In 1980, how many people got divorced in California in one year?
	276,000 people in 1980.
	Record year.
	Well, as record years, as far as we know, because they solved the problem of divorce records by stop keeping records.
	They stopped keeping divorce records.
	They were so embarrassed by it all.
	And virtually every other state in America had also adopted the California model.
	So now no-fault divorce became a nationwide craze.
	And in the 70s and 80s, people rushed out and indulged.
	I mean, a lot of people, I know there's a lot of people who have tragedies and sometimes it's inevitable or, you know, a consequence of life, but in California it became a ritual, a rite of passage.
	So marriage became just something you sort of entered into for a while and then moved on.
	And there were so many other distractions there that it became like a national phenomenon.
	Now, this is happening and no one's paying attention to its consequences on the economy.
	I mean, it's really shocking how little attention people pay to the effect of divorce, not only divorce, but single parenthood.
	Because when a culture loses its faith in marriage, it no longer has the will or the ability to tell the underclass that marriage is good.
	And we began to see just incredible spikes in single parenthood, especially among minority cultures, especially black culture, where it went from something like 15% in 1950 to 75% by 1980.
	Just astonishing.
	So what happens in 1993?
	We jump ahead.
	Bill Clinton is inaugurated president.
	The home ownership rate in 1993, after, you know, 24 pretty prosperous years...
	Especially the Reagan years and the Bush years.
	I mean, there was a good steady growth of the economy.
	More jobs, more money, standard of living was much higher.
	In 1993, Bill Clinton's inaugurated, and the home ownership rate is lower than it was when Richard Nixon was inaugurated 24 years earlier.
	And the Clinton administration looks around and, like all presidents, they want to put people in homes.
	Clinton is a numbered cruncher from the word go.
	I mean, he wants to see the numbers.
	It's the economy stupid.
	That's how he got elected.
	He wants to put people in homes.
	He wants to create jobs.
	Those were the days, weren't they?
	But when they look at the numbers, they say, why has the homeownership rate gone down?
	And they refuse to look at the real reason.
	And that is that the family had crumbled underneath the homeownership rates.
	We didn't have, you know, Ozzie and Harriet living in houses anymore.
	You know, we had, you know, the Crips living in these houses.
	I don't know who was living in these houses.
	People were buying homes, owning homes, who had no right to belong in homes, who could not afford, who were one broken refrigerator away from defaulting.
	And these are the people who are moving into the home ownership market.
	And you look at the numbers, it's inevitable.
	A single parent...
	It makes 20% of the income of a married couple.
	A divorced mother makes 40% of the income of a married couple.
	The home ownership rate in 1993 for married couples was 85%.
	There's no problem there.
	This is just about maxed out.
	If we had been a nation of married couples, moving forward, there would have been no economic crisis.
	There would have been no subprime crisis.
	None of that would have happened.
	But instead...
	The home ownership rate for single parents was less than 50%.
	That was pulling the whole number down.
	And instead of saying, gosh, what could cause this?
	Why don't we work on fortifying marriages?
	Why don't we work on keeping couples together?
	Why don't we work on giving couples who've worked hard an opportunity to buy a home and said, no, we just want to push the numbers up.
	And they looked around and said, who can we blame?
	And the Federal Reserve did a study in 1991 that provided all the ammunition the Clinton administration needed.
	What they did is they studied rates.
	This is for, I believe, for FHA loans, the rate of approval if you were looking for a government-assisted loan.
	And for white families that came in, we're getting loans at 77%.
	For black families that came in, we're getting loans at 61%.
	So they immediately looked at the numbers and said, well, the only reason that the homeownership rate isn't growing is because of racism.
	What else could it possibly be?
	They didn't look at the credit histories that people were being accepted or rejected.
	They didn't look at the family structure that was underlying those differences, because that's where the difference really was.
	It wasn't in race.
	It was in family structure.
	And you see the headlines in places like...
	USA Today.
	Not all homeowners are created equal.
	Or even Wall Street Journal.
	It matters more what you look like when you apply for a loan than what your credit is.
	Nonsense.
	Because banks have no interest in turning people down who are going to repay the loans.
	But they have every interest in the world in turning people down.

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