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	Fabulous!
	Adam Curry, John C. Devorak.
	It's March 4th, 2010.
	Time for your Gitmo Nation media assassination episode 179er.
	This is No Agenda.
	Exposing an international cabal of douchebags and coming to you from the 17th century Canal House Crackpot Command Center and Gitmo Nation lowlands in Amsterdam, the Netherlands, under siege of the United States of Europe.
	In the morning, I'm Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley here in the middle of northern Silicon Valley, I'm John C. Dvorak.
	It's Crackpot and Buzzkill.
	In the morning.
	Perhaps we should not do Hit It So Quickly so we can prepare our opening statements.
	You're the one that...
	The Valkyrie song is longer than that.
	No, no, but I thought you were ready.
	Look, it's already 9-0-9, 9-0-9-er in the morning.
	In the morning to you, John.
	And in the morning, I would say.
	By the way, last week's show, I was listening to it, or at least the first couple of minutes, and the delay was so bad.
	I know, it really was.
	It wouldn't be a bad thing to cut a little bit once in a while, you know what I'm saying?
	No, I don't.
	You know, it doesn't matter because we're just out of sync in that case.
	And it's amazing because now, you know, I'm at the 17th Century Canal House in Gitmo Nation Lowlands.
	You sound fantastic.
	The stream is pumping out at 64 kilobits.
	And I'll knock on wood.
	Why do you think that is?
	Especially when you're in San Francisco, which I can actually look out the window, and if I had a slingshot, I could probably poke you in the head with it.
	I don't know what it is.
	I do have Time Warner Cable, the Roadrunner Meep Meep service, and I have 12 megabits down.
	I've got one megabit up.
	So it has nothing to do with the megabittage.
	So it must be package shaping or something like that, which I don't think they're doing here.
	It's got to be something like that.
	I can't think of anything else because, you know, I have bandwidth meters.
	I've got, you know, pings going on to make sure the stuff doesn't go down.
	I mean, I'm looking at everything.
	And I'm on an Apple Airport Express modem or router here, so it's not like anything special, you know?
	I think it's cosmically you're being told to stay in Europe.
	It's better for the show, you know.
	I'm being told to shut up, slave.
	You know, I don't like your cosmic deduction.
	I don't want to stay in Europe.
	It is really bad here.
	The infrastructure is so much better!
	Besides it being colder than the proverbial witch's tit, it's unbelievable.
	Well, you know, you could go down the street and say hi to one of our new knights.
	Are we knighting someone today?
	We're knighting two people.
	I thought we were only doing that on Sundays.
	I decided to...
	Wait a minute, you made an executive decision without me?
	I decided that because we forgot to knight somebody, who was the missing knight who showed up, that we can't just keep putting him off.
	So since he was going to be knighted anyway, and we have a new knight who has a long-winded email and apparently became a knight because he was just to prove he's not a douchebag.
	And by the way, I will have to, for anybody in, and actually also Paul T, just to give Paul T some ideas for his art as we do this show, we're going to probably be talking about douchebags too much because it seems that this has become a major meme amongst our listeners.
	Well, there goes all the fun of it.
	And I guess we're going to talk about the earthquake in Taiwan.
	Yeah, you think?
	I've got a couple other things.
	I've got a few more.
	I'm going to start sending him a note beforehand so we can get some of his art, which, by the way, people out there should pay careful attention to.
	And we've lost touch with...
	Who was our other artwork producer?
	Other artists.
	Yeah, we have to reconnect with these guys.
	Yeah, we really do.
	Why don't we do the executive producers and we'll take it all the way through the night just to get it rolling.
	All right, well, one of the executive producers is obviously going to be one of the knights.
	So we have two executive producers this week.
	Knight Rene Schwertz, S-W-E-R-T-Z from Harlem.
	Harlem, yeah, not far away, right.
	So he's the one, R-E-N-E-S-W-E-R-T-Z, and I'm assuming Rene, of course, is a male name in Holland.
	Yes.
	It could be both, but I'm just going to presume he's going to be a sir and not a lady.
	Although we have more of the women listeners than a tech show would.
	Which is good news.
	Yeah, it is about time.
	We should do a show on fashion just at home.
	Hey, you know what?
	I saw this documentary called The September Issue.
	Have you ever heard of this?
	It's about Anna Wintour.
	I saw that documentary.
	It's fantastic.
	It's awesome.
	Fantastic!
	That woman runs the entire fashion industry.
	You know, and the funny thing is, you know, that Condé Nast, and that book, by the way, that September issue is like a thousand pages.
	It was four pounds.
	And they put a lot of money into it, and they have a huge budget, and a magazine with a big budget that does very well.
	It's a very well-produced product.
	One of the greatest magazines in the world.
	I agree.
	And so Condé Nast sells out to these schlockmeisters.
	Who's that?
	Who would they sell out to?
	Advance.
	Advance.
	So Advance, there's a bunch of these publishing companies that are second tier and third tier, and because of the way the economics are today, they've leveraged into buying all these expensive operations that they really can't afford to run because they're schlockmeisters.
	And I remember when Cardinal published in one of these types of businesses, A friend of mine down the street, he was the executive editor of Electronic Musician Cardinal, bought them out.
	He says, yeah, Cardinal Publishing, you know, their motto, cheap, cheap.
	Got it.
	So anyway, so Advance buys them, and immediately they start cutting the budgets, and they start cutting the budget of Wintower.
	And I just can't imagine what's going on over there, because she is not going to put up with this, and she's going to walk, the magazine's going to be screwed.
	Well, that's our Adam and John C. Dvorak fashion moment for the ladies amongst us.
	Fabulous!
	We've done very well, haven't we?
	Alright, let's move on with our second executive producer.
	Adam Miller, $333.33.
	We've allowed anyone who gives that amount of money to become executive producer no matter what.
	And if you donate it three times, we kick in the extra penny for the knighthood.
	Yep.
	And he's from Perryville, Missouri.
	Missouri.
	That's right.
	That's how you got to pronounce it.
	That's correct.
	How about associate executive producers?
	Anyone?
	Yeah, we got a couple.
	Although I'm looking at my rundown list here.
	We got Steven.
	And I have to go to the notes because they're separate.
	You know, you show up late.
	You give me some song and dance about your ink.
	The ink?
	Yeah, this is the problem.
	I can barely read this thing.
	Say fabulous again.
	Fabulous!
	Thank you.
	That's perfect.
	Yeah, I think so.
	I think that's perfect.
	I do one of the better ones.
	I live in the San Francisco Bay Area.
	I know what to say.
	Here it is.
	Okay, Stephen?
	It's Stephen.
	I have to go back to these notes because he puts his pronunciation in there because it's G-U-E-R-R-E-R-I, which you'd pronounce.
	Wait a minute.
	G-U-E-R-R-E-R-I. And it's Stephan.
	S-T-E-P-H-E-N. Oh.
	Stephan.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Which is usually pronounced Stephen here in this U.S. Gary.
	Gary, I would say.
	Gary?
	Gur-ary.
	Gur-ary.
	I would have pronounced it Gur-ary, but okay.
	So he gave us $200.
	And he has a note.
	Love the show.
	We'd like to see you guys keep it going.
	I'm also trying to earn extra money so I can quit my day job.
	Please mention my website.
	He has a thing called, which is curious because I have a column called Inside Track, but he has a product called Inside Track, and his product is And the website is nsidetrack, like inside track without the i.com.
	Okay, great.
	And it's a system to code your laptop in such a way that if it gets stolen, it could be tracked down.
	Oh, and then the headmaster can also look at the pills you're popping through the webcam.
	Yeah, cool system.
	If you're lucky.
	Let's see.
	All right.
	Steven Stephan Guerrieri.
	All right.
	Yeah, and...
	Move it along here, John.
	That's it.
	Oh, okay.
	I thought I had two, but I only have one that I can find.
	Okay, before we get to the knighthoods, then, I have a couple of PR associates, quick ones.
	Oh, good.
	Yeah, it's okay.
	You know, it's okay.
	This is Lee Brown...
	Hey Adam and John, please find attached clips of promotion I've been doing on a weekly student radio show all across Gitmo Nation, East United Kingdom.
	I was hoping to be able to do several more and sending them all at once, but due to situations out of my control, i.e.
	the government mucked up my student loan so I'll be coming homeless on Friday and won't have an internet connection, I thought I would send what I have so far.
	When I get some more, a place to live, and web access, I'll be joining you again.
	So hopefully you can still...
	He can still hear his little ditty here.
	It's kind of funny.
	Listen to it.
	Shall we say goodbye now?
	I think we'll say goodbye now.
	Yeah, it's probably best.
	Bye, Chris.
	Bye.
	Have you had fun?
	Yeah.
	Nice little quiz.
	It's nice sleeping and fun.
	Nice little chat.
	It's more fun than I have in the morning, quite frankly.
	What?
	It's more fun than I have in the morning, quite frankly.
	Or the evening.
	The morning.
	In the morning.
	Moving on.
	I missed that one.
	We just lost.
	Tumbleweed was flowing through the sky.
	I don't think everyone got what he was doing on the show there, but it's highly appreciated that at least he's doing some good.
	There's also some artwork that Paul Bousimer...
	He's a street graffiti artist in college, just moved to San Diego, and I'm going to put these in the show notes somehow.
	They are absolutely awesome.
	I have been a big fan of street art ever since, literally from the 70s, and have collected it.
	Believe it or not, I have a number of panels that were taken down and I garnered and I also had a number of graffiti artists in the late 70s do canvases, large canvases.
	I had this little house down the hill and I took the whole back fence and put these huge canvases up and had these graffiti guys come over and each one of them do a piece.
	You're such a hippie.
	You're a hippie.
	You're an undercover hippie, aren't you?
	Tech guru.
	You're really a hippie, dude.
	There's nothing really hippie about graffiti.
	Well, anyway, I will put these in the show notes.
	I've got to downsize him.
	He sent me this huge resolution with a beautiful logo he did with kind of a Masonic type of vibe there.
	And also, not that we encourage this, but he seems to have reproduced it on an L.A. Times newspaper box in front of the Ocean Beach Post Does he have the website?
	Oh yeah, it says noagendashow.com right underneath the logo.
	Okay, he's definitely on our A-list now.
	Yeah, he's a PR associate.
	And then, surprising, we have a celebrity PR associate.
	Celebrate on what I really meant and what I really thought of the thing.
	Jay, you've gone through this too, especially in these last few months.
	It's like that old saying...
	It's like the old saying where a lie can travel halfway around the world before truth even has a chance to get his pants on in the morning.
	There you go, in the morning.
	Oh, yeah.
	Okay, I have that clip, too.
	I knew you had it.
	All right, now very important, ladies and gentlemen, we would like Rene Schwartz to please kneel before the panel.
	Rene Schwartz, I hereby knight thee, Sir Rene.
	Of the Knights of the No Agenda Roundtable, please enjoy the hookers and blow.
	He chopped off his head.
	I did not.
	And I want to thank everyone else for donating.
	So, of course, Renee being our executive producer.
	Adam Miller, also a co-executive producer on the show today.
	Associate Executive Producer Stefano Steven Guerreri.
	We'll get the exact pronunciation, of course.
	And I tell you, last night at a...
	Miss Mickey is auctioning off some artwork.
	And we have another night, don't forget.
	We have another one?
	Yeah, that's what I said.
	That's what we had to have there.
	I'm so sorry.
	Can I just finish up my spiel about producers?
	Yeah, go ahead.
	And so we were at Christie's, where this will be auctioned off, and they have an evening where people can go and look at the artwork, look at it up close.
	And she introduced me to, and of course I've forgotten the guy's name, but he is one of the producers of the original Rocky movies.
	He's a Dutch guy, but he's lived half his life in...
	I think he's in his 70s now, so he doesn't do anything with production anymore.
	But this guy looked like anybody who donates to this show as an executive producer could look like.
	Successful, well-spoken, well-dressed.
	And it's his vibe because he has that executive producer status.
	And so it will really get you far in life.
	And when we get to the donations later on in the show, I will give you some actual success stories of people who have donated to the show who not even necessarily became executive producers.
	So that's good stuff on the way.
	Okay.
	So we have the guy that we lost in the shuffle, I'm sorry to say.
	But he's from Canada, so you know him.
	I'm sure they expect that.
	Don't be like that to our heads.
	And Canadians are okay in my book.
	But let me just say something to you Canadians out there.
	How do you let...
	Here's what...
	Listen, before we get to this.
	Okay, here I am.
	I'm up north and I'm watching the CBC because I think it's generally more interesting than Washington.
	Oh, you're in Washington right now?
	No, I'm not in Washington.
	I'm in California.
	Okay.
	I'm watching the end of the Olympics, and so they're having all these celebrations, and there's people in the streets, and there's people jumping up and down.
	They're talking about it on the local Vancouver version of the CBC local news.
	They're talking about this, and they're talking about that.
	And they're talking about how the Canadians won the most gold medals.
	Well, they should.
	And then they talked about the great victory in the last second in overtime of the Canadian hockey team over the...
	The evil Americans and everyone was...
	But this is the CBC, the national network, the entire all of Canada.
	They were showing zero clips.
	They showed not one clip.
	They showed just still photos of this and that because the way it was done, the deal was done, NBC has exclusive video.
	Yeah, they can't show anything in their own freaking country.
	In their own country, the Olympics are in Canada.
	This is the national network and they can't show a crappy clip?
	No.
	And they put up with this?
	No, they couldn't.
	And the news guys aren't griping about this constantly?
	No, because the National Olympic Committees are so powerful.
	This is an extremely powerful group.
	And it's all about commercialism.
	Oh, it's our team, it's our country.
	No way.
	It's all about money.
	That's why I boycotted.
	I didn't watch them.
	Screw it.
	How could you watch him?
	He had to tune in to crappy NBC coverage.
	That's true.
	And of course Letterman would mock it by saying, well here's a clip from the Olympics and then he shows something from the 30s.
	Great article in the Times.
	Something we hooked into when it came to the...
	The 100,000 condoms they shipped up there, the title of the article is Sex and the Olympic City, and it talks about, it's true, everyone is boning each other there in the Olympic Village, and it's a really in-depth article, and it's like, you know, go figure, you've got all these amazing looking boys and girls running around in the Olympic Village, they're all pumped up, they've got all kinds of You know, chemicals running throughout their brain that are generated naturally.
	And let's also not forget that there's plenty of them who are on steroids.
	And they're all horny.
	They're just horny as hell.
	And they're all like humping each other.
	And there's a bonus.
	Every one of them is a novelty fuck.
	Exactly.
	A notch on the belt.
	But, you know, it says here specifically, it doesn't even matter.
	You don't get laid more if you win a gold medal.
	It makes no difference.
	So you don't have to be a medalist to get laid.
	That's because they're probably all at max.
	In fact, who wrote this article?
	In the first paragraph, it says right here, I got laid several times, which may not sound like a lot in the Olympic Village, but for a 21-year-old undergraduate with crooked teeth, it was a minor miracle.
	It's like anyone can get laid as long as you're there.
	And you know what?
	I think we need to buy up some rights.
	We need to buy up some Olympic rights in 2012 in London or whatever.
	So we can get laid.
	Alright, so...
	Our second knight of the day.
	Our second knight...
	We actually should have been knighted by now.
	And we apologize, Larry.
	Larry Roik, R-O-I-K from Burlington, Ontario.
	You may knight him.
	Okay.
	Is he ready?
	Is he before us?
	Yes, he is.
	Larry Roik!
	Kneel before the Knights of the No Agenda!
	As we now knight thee, Sir Larry Roik.
	Please, come to the table and enjoy our hookers and blow.
	I think you chopped off his arms.
	And it looks like we're really going to go for the rings.
	I've done a little bit of homework, John.
	Well, let me finish Larry Roick's little story here.
	He does have a note.
	I'm sorry.
	I'm just saying.
	We can talk about the rings shortly.
	Okay, the reason I'm interrupting you here, because this is right up your alley, and I'm actually reluctant to even read it, but I will.
	Okay, so here's the crackpot idea, says Larry.
	What if aliens...
	I should have saved it for the end of the show, I suppose.
	You know, it's always a problem when the sentence begins, what if aliens...
	No, you have my attention.
	He has the aliens, of course, in quotes.
	What if aliens actually created, gave us, the general theory of relativity so that we would follow the wrong technological path and therefore never discover faster-than-light space travel or zero-time space travel or solve critical mysteries of the universe, etc., Yeah, that idea's out there.
	No, no, no, no, no.
	I like it very much for a number of reasons.
	First of all, that would be the work of the Greys.
	That's totally what those guys do when it comes to aliens.
	But ladies and gentlemen, I'm apologizing in advance for not doing this after the later watch.
	No, no, listen to me.
	And it makes so much sense because it's very...
	So much sense.
	It's very actuel, as the British Ministry of Defense has decided UFOs are no longer dangerous.
	They've shut down their UFO hotline.
	This is hot off the press.
	This is brand new news.
	And they are destroying all of the sightings.
	After 30 days, every UFO report goes into the bit bucket.
	Reported sightings, I'm quoting now, should be answered by a standard letter and on the advice of corporate memory and the National Archives should be retained for 30 days, then destroyed, largely removing any future freedom of information liability and negating the need to release future files post 30th November 2009, according to the Ministry of Defense of Gitmo Nation East.
	So it makes sense.
	I think, Larry, your knighthood is not only paid in full, but it is well-deserved.
	Now, he also has a link, which I should send you, which is a link to the first test that proves the general theory of relativity wrong.
	Okay.
	I like it.
	But, you know, I will say this one thing that people should know, that much of the reasoning for the fact that we can't travel faster than the speed of light is based on some of the mathematics of Edwin Mocker.
	Where you get Mach 1, Mach 2, Mach 3, that guy, who said you couldn't take a big object past the speed of sound and had math to prove it.
	So I've always considered it's possible to go faster than light, but I don't know how.
	If I did, I wouldn't be on this show.
	And seeing as what time you showed up this morning, I just wanted to say that briefly, I sent out a Twitter after the show, just as I was getting on the plane to come over to Gilmore Nation East, Or the lowlands, at least.
	And we have several different interpretations and translations for our ring.
	I think we should have a nice No Agenda logo.
	It's, you know, it'll be the type of ring that you can imprint into sealing wax or into someone's face.
	And we would have in the morning, in Latin, which I believe would be in mane, in mane, or in mane tempor.
	And then we hit people in the mouth, it's theramus in ore plebem, which I think would look great on a ring.
	Are you doing Google Translate?
	You could do it on the side.
	Look, we're getting much closer, and I've seen some very interesting designs, and I can't wait to hand out these rings to our knights.
	And as you know, in English, we have a very simple formula.
	Our formula is this.
	We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
	Order. Order.
	Shut up.
	Right on.
	Right on.
	Since we already did some aliens, maybe I should wait with the earthquake machine?
	I mean, do you want to hold off?
	The earthquake machine's coming up.
	Yeah, how about the...
	The distraction of the week on the world's agenda.
	So I don't know if everyone has actually heard...
	So there are two distractions.
	One was, at least what I heard over here, one was a pilot from, to me, an unknown airline who had apparently been flying...
	The way the news reporter was, oh, he's been flying for 13 years without a license!
	Well, yeah.
	Of course, he had a license that had expired, and he wasn't rated on this typical...
	Classic.
	But the guy had been doing a good job.
	He seemed to be okay.
	So that was like, whoa, it's so scary.
	And it never comes by itself, because then there's the, they're letting kids land the planes and do air traffic controlling at JFK. That is the number one destruction of the week.
	And let me tell you, So first of all, it is, of course, completely against regulations to have anybody, although technically I guess it isn't, but if you don't have a radio transmission license, then you shouldn't be transmitting on the radio.
	However, you can be a student as long as you have a licensed person who is licensed as an instructor, and I don't know if this kid's dad was an instructor or not, and I don't think there's any age limit necessarily for a controller, but Then it's okay.
	But also aviation, the radio, that is a big part of what keeps us sane when airmen are flying.
	We got to have our little jokes that you always try to slip in something.
	In fact, I can't wait to hear my first in the morning when I'm getting a crossing somewhere.
	I'm sure it's going to happen.
	And although it's always very professional, there's always little things going on.
	We have our secret frequencies we tune to.
	And it's a part of aviation.
	And I just want you to listen to the actual audio of the kid, who, by the way, does a spectacular job.
	And every single airman on the frequency immediately gets what's going on.
	They're getting the correct calls.
	You know, the kid's father is sitting right next to him.
	And they're all enjoying it.
	And particularly JFK. Which is, you know, it's a bummer.
	It's always a bummer there, no matter what you're doing.
	So it brightened up everybody's day.
	And you could even hear them all kind of laughing and saying, hey, good job.
	And, you know, it's like this is what aviation is about.
	It's about bringing people into it, making it interesting.
	And this is, you know, now it's like, oh, we have to have an inquiry.
	We have to be fired.
	Distraction of the week.
	Here it comes.
	September 171, clear for takeoff.
	Clear for takeoff, September 171.
	Let's see here, Air Mexico 403, Kennedy.
	I'm on the way through, left, position and halt.
	Position and halt, Air Mexico 403.
	This is what you get, guys, when the kids are out of school.
	Yeah, he says, this is what you get when the kids are out of school.
	So they're laughing.
	By the way, that could be deemed technically inappropriate even to talk about that on the frequency.
	I could bring my kid to work.
	See, they're having a good time.
	Now, for people who travel on United, you can tune into Channel 9 usually, sometimes Channel 13.
	Channel 9, from the flight deck, you're right.
	Generally in Channel 9.
	I think one plane's got it on some other channel.
	But anyway, for whatever reason.
	And you can listen to the whole...
	I always listen when we're coming in, especially when we're flying around, to see when they're going to actually land the plane, because you can tell.
	And they tell you all this.
	And every once in a while, you run into some situation where there's a note of humor.
	It's not that common, but it does happen.
	And I think it is appreciated.
	And I think this story, when I first heard this story, I thought it was like making, you know, this typical, the country and the world has become these, you know, these bureaucratic...
	It's political correctness, bureaucratic crap.
	...bullshit is what it is.
	Yeah.
	You know, oh my God, the kid had...
	There's more stories this last week about a kid who has a pill, or a kid who, you know, brought a pen knife, or a kid who, you know, looked cross-eyed, and so he's expelled from school.
	My God, don't tell me there was a kid who looked cross-eyed.
	Hold on, it's 30 more seconds.
	Just listen to it, because it's really...
	And you have to focus.
	It takes a little while to get into the sound and what they're saying, but just 30 more seconds.
	It's really cute.
	He's even saying adios to the Mexican pilots.
	Over to departure, JetBlue 171.
	Awesome job!
	Thank you, I'm good at you.
	Zero three, clear for takeoff.
	Four zero three, clear for takeoff.
	Thank you very much, you have a great day.
	JetBlue 195, County Tavern, with you and left, position and hold.
	Three one left, position and hold, JetBlue 195.
	Air Max four zero three, contact departure, adios.
	Contact departure, idle vehicle, forward to the three, adios.
	Ah, it's cute! it's cute!
	It's cute!
	It's actually quite funny, and of course the news media didn't play this at all to anybody.
	This is the first time I've heard it.
	Oh, really?
	Oh, no.
	Of course, all my fly buddies gave it to me.
	No, there's no analysis.
	It's just the same old zero-tolerance, fascist crap.
	You know, this kid was, like, you know, it was illegal, and it was bad, and this is an inquiry.
	We gotta stop it.
	Yeah.
	And by the way, talking about this sort of thing, there's been more than a few of these stories also regarding this distraction of the week that are more pointed and that people pay attention to why they're cropping up now.
	And there was one story in the Bay Area where some kid, I guess her parents, went to a marijuana place because they had the marijuana drug license and they...
	They had a brownie at home and the kid mistakenly ate the brownie in her lunch bag or something.
	Arrest them all!
	Arrest them all!
	Seriously, that's basically where it came out.
	There's a number of dubious aspects to the story.
	One, how did anybody at school tell that these kids were wasted in the first place after eating the brownie?
	Kids act kind of wasted anyway.
	Chitter!
	And so the whole story seemed like it was planted, and this is going to get worse, by the way.
	We're going to spot every one of these that we can.
	I think they're happening probably less around the country than they are around here.
	Anything to stop the bill that's going to legalize marijuana in California, because they know it, and nationally, they know that if it's passed in California, if this bill goes through, which it should, it's going to cause a cascade effect.
	Across the country, especially with the other half dozen or dozen, I guess it's a little over a dozen states that have this legalized marijuana law in play, it's going to go right to those guys and then it's going to go everywhere.
	And nobody wants that.
	I don't know why they don't want it.
	I mean, it seems like a tax base to me, but there's some reason they don't want it.
	Maybe it's because people start to see, you know, maybe take a couple of hits of some marijuana.
	See that that shit actually works.
	They're going to realize that everybody's lying to them.
	So this might be an opportune moment to look back to our last show.
	And, of course, I've got the show notes loaded up.
	It's nice to be over here in the lowlands.
	I've got a whole day of prep time instead of getting up at 6.30 in the morning.
	So under the heading Healthcare Wars, which would be the war you and I had on the last program, I received a lot, a lot of feedback on that.
	And my basic premise was, where are the doctors in all of this?
	And there's a couple things I'd like to mention.
	One is a website, the Physicians for a National Health Program, pnhp.org, which is interesting to look at.
	it seems like there are physicians and medical professionals who do care about, and by the way, I'm not against a national health program.
	At least this is doctors saying, hey, we've got some weird shit going on and we ain't all that good.
	We ain't doing such a great job.
	Then there was my friend Doc from Italy.
	I don't know if he's a surgeon, but he gives lectures, medical lectures.
	He sent me a lot of information about the original HPV vaccines.
	He basically poked holes in it right off the bat.
	He sent me a wonderful little piece from Plato.
	Which I thought you might like.
	This is Plato's Laws.
	Slave doctors, free doctors.
	And I guess I'll have to put this in the show notes.
	It's a one-pager.
	Athenian.
	And did you ever observe that there are two classes of patients in states, slaves and freemen, and the slave doctors run about and cure the slaves or wait for them in dispensaries?
	Practitioners of this sort never talk to their patients individually or let them talk about their own individual complaints.
	The slave doctor prescribes what mere experience suggests, as if he had exact knowledge, and then he has given his orders like a tarrant.
	He rushes off with equal assurance to some other servant who is ill and so he relieves the master of the house of the care of his invalid slaves.
	But the other doctor, who is a free man, attends the practices upon free men and he carries his inquiries far back and goes into the nature of the disorder.
	He enters into discourse with the patient and with his friends and is at once getting information from the sick man and also instructing him as far as he is able and will not prescribe for him until he has first convinced him.
	At last, when he has brought the patient more and more under his persuasive influences and set him on the road to health, he attempts to effect a cure.
	And that's Plato, you know.
	And along with that comes a clip from our national treasure.
	So Plato wrote that back in the day?
	Yeah.
	And it still applies?
	Yes.
	Well, Plato had a couple, I think he said a couple other interesting things.
	Huh, I got to look into that guy.
	Yeah.
	Someone's got to give that guy a promotion.
	So there's a very good This American Life episode.
	Episode 391.
	Which, by the way, if you go to iTunes and you go to the podcast section, these bastards are national treasure.
	They only give you the most recent episode.
	If you want a back episode, you have to buy it.
	Which pissed me off.
	I'm sorry?
	Yeah, you have to buy back episodes on iTunes of This American Life.
	It's not like a podcast where you can go get the back episodes.
	So this is an older episode from before the healthcare debate was raging.
	And they go through three issues.
	One is the problem with the insurance companies.
	Two is the problem with the big pharma.
	Or three is it with the doctors.
	And there's this little story that I just wanted to let the doctor speak for a second.
	It's a pretty good clip.
	It's a whole hour.
	You should listen to the whole thing.
	And what happens is a girl is brought in, she had a minor car accident, and he basically does the five-point test and says, look, you have no broken back, you're a little banged up, but you're going to be okay, you don't even need an x-ray, you don't need a CAT scan or anything like that, you're fine, and the mother's there, and she says, okay, great, but then this happens.
	But a couple of minutes later, the dad showed up.
	Dr.
	Hoffman.
	And the dad was a very tall, very powerful figure who was very upset and spoke very loudly.
	And he also happened to mention that he was a lawyer and that there would be consequences for anger that we made.
	And he said that he wanted to get not just an x-ray, but a CAT scan of her neck.
	A CAT scan, which is not only more expensive than an x-ray, but uses much more radiation.
	So I tried to explain to him that A, she didn't really need the x-ray or the CAT scan, and B, that there was some harm with it.
	In fact, if you do a thousand CAT scans to a young woman like this, there's a pretty good chance that some small number, one, two, something like that, may have harm from it.
	And the harm is not trivial harm, it's important harm.
	She could get a cancer of her thyroid that in 15, 20 years might actually be fatal.
	So, while I can't say with 100% certainty that her neck was fine, I was pretty sure, 99.9%, at least, in my judgment, it would be more harmful than beneficial to her to do the test for her.
	So I tried to explain this to the dad, and I tried to be really nice and patient, but he was having none of it.
	He said things like, you will do a CAT scan.
	And then I said to him something that actually I had long known, but it never crystallized for me exactly in this way until that moment.
	I said to him, you know, for me, it really is the right thing to do the CAT scan.
	I said, you know, if I don't do the CAT scan, you're probably going to lodge a complaint about me.
	If I do the CAT scan, you're going to be really happy with me.
	I said, in addition, I'm almost certain that your daughter is fine.
	But there's maybe one in a million chance that she isn't.
	That there really is a hidden factor and I'm missing it.
	And if that's the case, the CAT scan will save my butt.
	And on the other hand, if I do the CAT scan and your daughter gets a cancer 20 years from now, no one will blame me.
	And in addition, I'm spending a lot of time talking to you here that I need to You know, I could do it in a second.
	It would be done with.
	It would be easy.
	And I said, finally, the really strange thing is that I'll get paid more if I do the CAT scan.
	Because the way that bills are made, you get paid more for more complex patients.
	And the insurance companies of the world think that it proves that the patient was more complex and more difficult if you had to do a CAT scan.
	So everything about this Alright.
	Did I lose you?
	Well, I almost fell asleep, but...
	It was worth it, because I want you to hear...
	No, I get it, I get it.
	But in fact, a CAT scan delivers something like 30 years' worth of background radiation per visit.
	Right, but the whole point is, for him, it was almost like he couldn't lose by doing it, because in addition to there being no risk for him of any lawsuit, in fact, less of a risk, He would get paid more because of the fee-for-service model, which is the one thing that is never discussed in this whole healthcare debate, is how doctors are compensated.
	And again, I'll refer to the book about the medical insider.
	I'll put it in the show notes, NoGendaShow.com, the insider from Eli Lilly.
	It's hard, man.
	It's hard when you've got money and gifts and all kinds of beautiful things dangled in front of you.
	It's hard to not check yourself and say, wait a minute, I'm just prescribing stuff.
	And this is exactly what Plato wrote about.
	These are the slave doctors.
	And you've got slave doctors and free doctors.
	So we've got both, but it's never discussed.
	Well, anyway, the point is that if they would do some tort reform, it wouldn't hurt.
	You wouldn't have these asshole lawyers.
	Yeah.
	It has a lot to do with it.
	Less lawyers.
	Whatever happened to Doc Holloway?
	Sorry.
	You know, from Gunsmoke.
	Doc Holliday?
	Yeah, that's what it was.
	Doc Holloway.
	He's still acting in Hollywood, Doc Holloway.
	You know what I mean.
	Doc Holloway, that's good.
	All right.
	Moving along.
	Well, let's talk about the, what do you want to talk about next?
	You know, I have a couple clips.
	Yeah, let's do some clips.
	Alright, so I want to talk about a new meme cropping up that is kind of amusing.
	Wait a minute, wait a minute.
	We can't do that until we've discussed vajazzling one more time.
	Oh, okay, let's just talk about it.
	I don't mind bumping my commentary for vajazzling.
	Just for a moment.
	There's a Twitterer named vajazzling.
	It gets better.
	It gets better.
	Dear Adam and John, says James, I want to thank you for a tip I heard on No Agenda 178.
	You and John were talking about Vajazzling.
	So I did a quick search and I got the domain name.
	The domain is now bringing 100 plus uniques an hour.
	And they have the potential to bring in huge amounts of moolah if I play my cards right.
	Vajazzling.com.
	And he's selling all kinds of stuff.
	And he says, I'll be donating money.
	You guys will get a cut.
	Good man.
	Yes, and so we have helped start a new business, John.
	Well, good.
	I mean, we would have done, you know, since we think in these kind of...
	I'm kicking myself.
	I'm like, what an idiot.
	I should have immediately grabbed the jazzling.com.
	How stupid am I? Yeah, no, that's what I was thinking, too.
	But the fact of the matter is, we would have grabbed it, and that would have been it.
	We would have parked it, just sat on it, squatted.
	At least this guy's doing something, and he's going to give us some compensation.
	That's great.
	We love that.
	And there's a couple of links to some vajazzling...
	Examples, of course, you'll see this all.
	This is just to continue on the meme from last week or the last show.
	Now you'll see all of these local, not the news anchor, but it'll probably be the weather girl.
	And I got a couple of examples.
	Oh, there's this new thing.
	It's called Vajazzling.
	I'm going to go see what it's like.
	We spotted this one right off the bat.
	We only missed it by 30 days.
	Props to you on that.
	If you want to see some jazzling in action, there's a couple of YouTube clips, which you can also see at NoAgendaTV.com, where all of our videos are proudly displayed in chronological order as they appear in the show notes.
	Alright, a new meme.
	Is it as good as the jazzling?
	I think it's lame.
	But here, I want you to play...
	I've got a couple of clips.
	They ran back-to-back shows on special victim units on NBC because they have nothing to put on at 10 o'clock because Leno's gone.
	He went...
	Leno moved his show, and by the way, I want to talk a little bit about that, even though it's real news, later.
	So they played these two back-to-back Dick Wolf shows, and one of them seemed to be a...
	We might as well do both of them right now.
	One of them is just a standard anti-Christian nutball rant, but this one equates to Christian.
	This tries to do its best job of doing a point-by-point Christian nutballs are just as bad, if not worse, because they go after hookers, than Islamists.
	You can just see what this was all about.
	And the classic Christian Nutball scene, which was all throughout this episode, it was just a crazy show that had...
	It wasn't even good.
	I mean, it was just a bad show.
	But I just love this crazy acting.
	You might as well play Christian Nutball.
	Witness, I honor that commandment.
	Are you okay?
	He's crazy!
	I'm trying to win!
	I'm trying to save her soul after you locked her in.
	Well then what happened?
	I'm trying to save her soul.
	She asked if I wanted to meet my father, so I cut him.
	Did I not tell you?
	She attacked me.
	She cuts you up because you caged her in your car.
	It was the only way to get her to sit still long enough to hear the message.
	The message?
	Guys like you, you always got a message, don't you?
	It's not mine.
	It's God's.
	There is a better life waiting for girls like her in heaven.
	Is that your job?
	You're God's little messenger boy?
	Do you know what kind of sordid lives these girls are living in?
	Actually, I do.
	Especially because of freaks like you.
	God put me on this earth to fight Satan's grip on these girls' souls.
	Did God tell you to put your death grip on these girls' necks?
	Sometimes dying is better than living.
	Now, did you just admit to me that you murdered these two girls?
	No.
	I never harmed a soul.
	But whoever did this...
	It's a murder.
	Lord, bless those who watch over the weak.
	And Lord...
	You know, I'd like to say something about this, John.
	This is rather interesting because, you know, right now in Gitmo Nation lowlands, they're in the middle of an election cycle.
	As you know, the cabinet fell, tripped over its own shoelaces.
	And so they had the regional elections yesterday, and even though Geert Wilder's party, the PVV, It was only eligible in two regions.
	They, of course, won by a landslide, which is a setup for the national elections come end of May, beginning of June.
	But all over the news, there is a meme of other religions doing weird shit.
	Now, Geert Wilders, the PVV party, is the party that wants to stop immigration of...
	Of Muslims into the Netherlands, he wants to impose a quote, rag tax.
	So it's okay if you want to wear, they call it the rag tax.
	It's okay if you want to wear a headscarf, but you have to pay a thousand euros as an extra tax.
	But immediately there's all these...
	What if it's cold out?
	Yeah, yeah.
	There's all these really weird stories about, you know, and by the way, that's a whole other topic I have later in the show, about these Roman Catholic priests in this one church, in this one province,
	where they were, of course, fiddling around with the kids for years, and so now that's all come out, and you You can literally hear the debate being like, well, you know, we've got bad on this side and bad on that side, but they've got their churches, so the mosque should be allowed.
	And it really seems like they're trying to even it out and make it okay, because, hey, look, you know, Muslims are bad, or Islamists, or people who believe in Islam, but, you know, so are Roman Catholics, and Christians apparently are also nutballs, so they're all crazy, so they all should have equal rights, I guess.
	I love the logic.
	Yeah, well that's really the way it's coming across.
	It's nutty.
	Alright, so the second one.
	Now I understand the link you gave me that I did put in the show notes.
	Now I understand why you gave it to me.
	Now I'm looking at the title of the clip.
	Alright, there's a meme that's kind of buried in here that you're going to have to listen to, but I'm going to set this whole thing up.
	This is about a guy who runs a print shop, and he's irked by all the lesbians moving into the neighborhood.
	Stop right there.
	That's wrong.
	I mean, as Knights of the No Agenda Roundtable know, there's nothing ever to be irked about lesbians moving into the neighborhood.
	Anyway, this guy's irked about it.
	And so he's decided to rape and kill them.
	Yeah, of course.
	One by one to convert them to something or other.
	It's hard to say.
	But he acts like a real weenie.
	And so the woman, Maria Hargiste, or whatever her name is, the actress, who's another typical actress on any of these shows, she decides to pretend to be a lesbian and confront this guy in the interrogation.
	Is she hot?
	Is she hot?
	Yeah, she's a good-looking woman, although it's funny, when you see her on the red carpet or anything, any of these shows where she's actually herself rather than this cop character she plays, she's like a valley girl.
	It's hilarious.
	Love it.
	So anyway, so she's giving this guy the, you know, she's going after him.
	And then he, you know, is acting like, oh, I am that guy.
	And then he gets tough.
	And then she busts him and then she leaves.
	And so he proves himself guilty by yelling at her.
	So then they go into the next scene where Kathy, what's her name, the actress, the D-list actress, C-list, whatever.
	Oh, Kathy...
	Griffin?
	Kathy Griffin?
	She comes in.
	She plays the lesbian.
	Of course, she now turns out to be bisexual, and she has to go through this rigmarole, and she feels real good about the fact that she's now bisexual for some reason.
	But there's a meme that's kind of buried in here that I'm going to discuss, and I wonder if you can find it.
	This is called Find the Meme.
	Oh, an opportunity for a new jingle.
	Find the Meme, Adam.
	All us lesbians are a mistake.
	Except the good news is, you know how to correct us.
	You're wrong.
	But you want to make me right, don't you, Ronnie?
	Correct a bitch like me.
	Grab me off of my feet.
	Throw me onto that table and bend me all the way over because you've got everything you need to make me a real woman.
	Right between your legs.
	And you'd love it.
	Just like those other two did.
	Every moment of it.
	Goodbye, Ronnie.
	Goodbye.
	Oh, you bitch!
	You bitch!
	You got him.
	She got him.
	He had a hell of a performance, I think.
	Well, thank you.
	From all of us.
	So, are you still speaking for the community?
	Really?
	About a tenth of them?
	But Lesby Strong will be back.
	I'm opening the membership to include everyone, making it a real LGBTQIA organization.
	Well, A is for allies so you can count us in.
	Larry's not an ally.
	Apparently getting shot kind of soured him on me.
	Bullet in the ass will do that.
	Okay, I heard a couple things.
	First of all, I got like a semi at the beginning there.
	And don't...
	Wait, wait.
	And don't Google anything.
	No.
	How about Let's Be Strong?
	I thought that was...
	Okay, that was the name of her organization that she...
	Okay.
	LGBTQIA... Was that what she said?
	Yeah.
	What exactly is that?
	Yeah.
	That's what I said.
	Did you Google it?
	No, I got the whole thing.
	So I'm listening.
	I had to actually rewind the tape a couple of times because, look, I live in the Bay Area.
	I know about all this stuff that's going on, and I do watch...
	You've fixed a diker too, haven't you, John?
	I've seen a few.
	Yeah.
	And I know about the LBGT, because this became a meme some years ago, lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender is what that means.
	So then I hear this new meme, LBGTQIA, which I'm thinking, look, this is a little long.
	I mean, what's the deal?
	Okay, so this seems to, the best research I can do on it, and I'm sure somebody out there knows more, but I did enough work.
	It seems to have stemmed from the University of California system, either San Diego or Santa Barbara or Santa Cruz, one of them.
	And because they, I guess they had a big meeting and it wasn't inclusive enough.
	So they decided to add some new shit to it.
	And I think it all...
	So I think, and I think, I tried to deconstruct it to figure out why it's so damn long, and they didn't want to, it could be LGB, it really should be LGBTI. I mean, that would take care of it.
	And the I, I'm going to ask you what you think these letters stand for.
	Guess Q. Question?
	Queer?
	Queer.
	Yeah, I got queer.
	Okay.
	Okay, now wait a minute.
	What does that mean?
	What is queer?
	Queer.
	Well, you're as queer as a $2 bill.
	$3 bill.
	Whoops.
	That's how queer I am.
	Well, queer is a derogatory term for gay.
	It's a derogatory term for LGBT, right?
	Yes, correct.
	So isn't it redundant?
	Yeah, damn them.
	And pointless?
	Damn them.
	Isn't it pointless?
	What's the A for?
	Allies.
	Allies.
	Ooh.
	Okay.
	So now I'm looking at this link you sent me, which is in the show notes.
	No, don't look at it.
	Don't look at it.
	Well, you could...
	No, because no.
	What do you mean no?
	Okay, I won't.
	I. I. Intersex.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, I looked at it.
	I saw that one.
	I'll stop.
	You know what that means?
	No.
	Yeah.
	See, that's the problem with this.
	It means hermaphrodite.
	Oh really?
	Oh, here it is.
	Intersex.
	A, the biological sex of a person born with ambiguous genitalia, or B, one whose external genitalia at birth do not match the standards for male or female, e.g. enlarged clitoris or tiny penis.
	Well, that's Bill and Hillary Clinton right there.
	I mean, you got them both in one go.
	Well, there you have it.
	So anyway, the point is that now they've added this new meme, and it's California that's put, apparently, although you can find it, the link I sent you is from Lehigh University, you can find there's various clubs now thinking of changing their...
	Their moniker from LGBT, which is enough of a long acronym to LGBTQIA. That's crazy.
	When I heard that, I said, what is Dick Wolf trying to do now?
	That's crazy.
	It's totally crazy, and I guarantee it's going to catch on as kind of a debatable, and they've got a new logo with all the background colors and little bubbles, and there's a bunch of websites, and the whole thing is like trying to, it's a co-option.
	And the fact that they've got the word queer stuck in there, which is, you know, it's weird, and then Allies is bad.
	You know, so what?
	I mean, why does that have to be in the name?
	It's like the Democrat Party and its friends.
	I mean, it doesn't make sense.
	And then the whole thing, the I, they just won't have I. So it essentially seems to me, here's what I'm thinking, it seems to me that the gay community, and when I say gay, I mean male-female gays, I know I don't differentiate, which I think is something that needs discussion amongst them.
	I think it's to marginalize the hated hermaphrodites, which I think apparently the LGBT people don't like, so they surrounded the I with a Q and an A, which has nothing to do with anything.
	I mean, they don't even need to be on the list.
	They won't go LGBTI. They won't do it, because I don't think the gay community in this regard, and I think this proves it, likes to deal with hermaphrodites.
	John C. Devorak's pet peeve of a day.
	And there you have it.
	How about WHPITMITM? What is that?
	We hit people in the mouth in the morning.
	There you go.
	Now, if you look on the link that I sent, which is the Lehigh University glossary of all these different kinds of terms, you know, and it's actually very educational for people out there.
	It is interesting, yeah.
	But here's the one that gets me.
	What's the difference between...
	I'm not mocking anybody.
	What's the difference...
	Maybe I am.
	What's the difference between a gay and an MSM? An MSM. That's mainstream media.
	Mainstream media.
	Mainstream media also means men who have sex with men.
	Oh, I thought it was M4M. No, that's just the Craigslist ads.
	I'm sorry.
	I'm reliably informed.
	Uh-oh.
	Breaking news, John.
	It looks like someone tripped over the earthquake machine trigger.
	Luckily, it wasn't aimed at a landmass.
	Barcelona, Spain, Dateline, two hours 35 minutes ago, monstrous waves smashed into a Mediterranean cruise ship, flooded people's cabins, broke windows in a restaurant, and sent terrified travelers screaming for doctors.
	Doctor!
	A lot of water came in.
	Many cabins were flooded.
	You know, they've really got to quit this shit on the earthquake machines.
	This is really getting out of control.
	Yeah, especially when you're harassing old women.
	So we know that a 6.4 magnitude quake hit southern Taiwan, another target for the Chinese.
	And the Chinese, I think they're the ones that are messing it up.
	I don't think their array is strong enough, or they have a bad standing wave ratio.
	I was supposed to save this for the second half of the show.
	No, I've got to do it now.
	They have a bad standing wave ratio, so too much energy is reflecting back, or they need to adjust their dipole or whatever.
	Dipole?
	Hey, where are you adjusting that dipole?
	What?
	Meanwhile, the Harper Ray is just fantastic.
	Not only did we blow Chile into Chile.
	Into oblivion there with our 8.8, but we actually slowed down the earth.
	I'm sorry, sped it up, which is just fantastic.
	Of all the earthquakes we've heard of...
	I need more time, not less.
	Yeah, of all the earthquakes we've heard of, and the way I understand this, this is very much like when a skater does a pirouette, and the skater, the ice skater, we just saw this at the Olympics.
	At least, not if you weren't watching.
	If you were watching CBC, you didn't see it.
	But if you were watching NBC, then you would see an ice skater twist around, and when the skater pulls their arms in, they start to spin faster.
	So apparently, this beam was so powerful that it contracted the earth like pulling in a piece of the land, and now we're spinning faster.
	Well, yeah, by a nanosecond or something.
	Yeah, but if that doesn't have harp written all over it, what does?
	Apparently this goes on constantly.
	Until we're spinning north to south, I'm not paying attention to any of these theories.
	And I'm just waiting for someone to say...
	That would be cool.
	Now tell me that wouldn't be cool.
	Yeah, well, we might get dizzy.
	But, you know, I'm just waiting for some dipshit to come out and say, oh, by the way, this is really going to make global warming even worse.
	You watch.
	Oh, no, there's definitely a dipshit on its way.
	And then I don't know if this is the one that I read before, but someone sent me this, just so you have it, from defense.gov, a transcript.
	This is from 1997.
	I think we did 1977.
	And this is...
	William S. Cohen.
	Maybe we did do this one before, but I just want you to know that I'm not joking about the earthquake machines.
	Department of Defense news briefing, Secretary of Defense William S. Cohen, and he talks about all kinds of terrorism, threat of Ebola virus, could be a very dangerous phenomenon.
	This is an exact transcript on the defense.gov website, link in the show notes at noagendashow.com.
	Quoting the last bit of this paragraph, Some sort of engineering, some sort of insects that can destroy specific crops.
	Others are engaging even in an eco-type of terrorism where they can alter the climate, set off earthquakes, volcanoes remotely through the use of electromagnetic waves.
	So there are plenty of ingenious minds out there that are at work finding ways in which they can wreak terror upon other nations.
	It's real, and that's the reason why we have to intensify our efforts.
	That's why it's so important.
	Hey, where did you get this prison planet?
	This is www.defense.gov slash transcript slash transcript dot ASPX question mark transcript ID equals 67.
	Yes, here it is.
	Don't give me that prison planet bull.
	You're always like...
	Look, you know...
	And by the way, Alex Jones ain't that crazy either.
	He just yells a bit much.
	He's a conniver.
	There's your link.
	It's in Skype right now.
	Defense.gov.
	Okay?
	News transcript.
	U.S. Department of Defense.
	Let me just read that last line again because you talked over me.
	So, this is the...
	This is Cohen, Secretary of Defense William S. Cohen.
	So, there are plenty of ingenious minds out there that are at work finding ways in which they can wreak terror upon other nations.
	It's real, and that's the reason why we have to intensify our efforts, and that's why this is so important.
	Okay, I mean, you make your case, and that's the way it goes.
	People complain bitterly about this, and I say, well, you know, there's this documentation that keeps cropping up, and Adam keeps glomming onto it.
	What am I supposed to say to him?
	And of course, this is the type of reporting that we bring to you.
	Please allow me to bring you the type of reporting that CNN brings to you when it comes to earthquakes and tsunamis.
	No, don't!
	Yes, because several people sent me the clip, and of course, we just have to play it now that we actually have it.
	Let me see if there's...
	This is Rick Sanchez.
	He's explaining a tsunami.
	Those.
	This is when we were all waiting for the tsunami to arrive.
	How large a tsunami, how big the waves are, etc., etc.
	We just got one of those readings.
	And we want to share it with you because we think it's important and will help you understand.
	You know, I was trying to find out what was happening at that exact moment.
	There must have been something else going on because there's no other reason for them to do all this crazy waiting for the tsunami delay crap.
	Look at all the guys we have over here.
	Don't look over here.
	They're putting this information together.
	And one of them just stood up a while ago and he said, we've got a reading, we've got a reading.
	Then we called our producers and that's why we're putting this stuff on the air now.
	So Jackie, let us know.
	Okay, so Jackie, now Jackie's going to explain what's happening, and then comes the money shot.
	These are active.
	These are the ones that we're going to be watching, and there's Hawaii right from there, about 140 miles away from the Hawaiian island.
	We've got a buoy out there, and this is what it's showing here.
	There you can see the line, and notice this big drop.
	Down here, we have this big drop.
	This is about a 9-meter drop.
	9-meter drop.
	9-meter.
	What does that mean?
	Well, it means that the ocean waves are doing something.
	We're seeing some changes.
	It's been going down, and look at this.
	Nine meters, nine meters.
	What's a meter?
	Our expert in here.
	Here comes our expert to explain nine meters.
	Dr.
	Kurt Frankel and Dr.
	Frankel, tell us a little bit.
	You know, we talk about how the tsunami will come in or the water will pull back before we start to see.
	Is this a sign of that?
	I think that's a sign of that.
	I don't think you can translate that nine meters into necessarily any specific wave height that will hit Hawaii, so we need to be careful about that.
	You know, it doesn't necessarily mean there's been nine meters of run-up in Hawaii, but it's just showing that the tsunami, in fact, didn't.
	By the way, 9 meters in English is?
	About 27 feet.
	27 feet, yeah.
	Oh, it was Sanchez who said that.
	Yes, it was.
	I thought it was one of the women.
	That's what I was told.
	Well, I'm sure he wasn't the only one saying that.
	But Sanchez, what a deuce tool.
	What is the word Chinese?
	What is 9 meters?
	What is that in English?
	I'm really rolling here.
	This is a crisis situation.
	You've got to explain 9 meters in English to me, you bastard!
	Oh, man.
	No wonder people send us money.
	Thank you.
	You have a choice.
	You can either listen to our actual reporting upon government documents that you can go look at yourself, which is in plain English.
	What is an earthquake generated by remote in English?
	Well, it's exactly that.
	It's what they say it is.
	But when you want to know what nine meters in English is, hey, go zone out for three hours waiting for the tsunami, okay?
	Jeez, that's terrible.
	So luckily, people are supporting this program, and we need it because it takes a lot of time to figure out what nine meters is in English.
	Oh, just, yeah, all day, apparently.
	So you want to go over the donations this week and all the douchebag call-outs that seem to be pretty thematic?
	Yeah, let's do that, sure.
	I got plenty more fun stuff on the way.
	I'm going to tell everybody out there in advance.
	I got way too many notes.
	Good.
	Wait, they were too long.
	I'm going to read as many as I can, and I'm going to discuss a couple of things and call out some people for one reason or another because their friends, or so-called friends, think they should be called out.
	You know, before...
	Before you do that, I just need to mention one quick little funny story.
	I don't want to come back to earthquakes after this.
	Yes, please.
	Earthquakes, Haiti.
	Of course, we've been laughing about the Bush and Clinton Foundation.
	I just want you to send cash to them.
	Show up and take advantage of people's goodwill and generosity.
	Search and rescue team.
	We just need cash.
	I know a lot of people want to send blankets or water.
	Just send your cash.
	I can't get enough of that clip.
	Bob Geldof in the Times today.
	Link in the show notes.
	He's angry because a CIA report claims that about $63 million of the money raised from LiveAid actually went to rebels to buy guns to go and overthrow the government.
	And he's like, no, that's not true, man.
	And there's a report.
	They have a report about all of this money.
	The CIA made a report saying that his money went to rebels overthrow what government, Haiti?
	No, this was Ethiopia.
	Live Aid was for Ethiopia.
	Oh, Live Aid.
	This is from the old show, not the more recent thing.
	Yeah, no, but this is just to show you that, of course, the report comes out.
	I mean, this is like 25 years ago.
	So this is just to show you that this money, it never goes to the people it's intended for.
	The people who participate in these shows, they do it for their own ego.
	Eh, they may have some, you know, like, oh, I do want to help, but they're just idiots, because there's better ways of helping, like donating to Doctors Without Frontiers, or a real legitimate group.
	Doctors Without Borders, I think.
	Oh, the French is sans frontières, so yeah, Without Borders.
	Um...
	And these things are primarily scams.
	Just to make it even funnier, if you go to iTunes and you go to buy the concert for Haiti...
	It says SOS, Help for Haiti.
	The subtitle for SOS, what does that stand for, John?
	Well, it means Save Our Souls.
	It literally stands for, it says it right here, I've got the screenshot, Saving Ourselves.
	What?
	Oh, that's interesting.
	So at least they're up front about it.
	Saving ourselves.
	We just want to save ourselves.
	That's all we're going to say.
	Just say we've got to save ourselves.
	We just need cash.
	I know a lot of people want to send blankets or water.
	Just send your cash.
	You can take that to the bank.
	Shysters show up and take advantage of people's goodwill and generosity.
	There you go.
	Well, I'm glad to hear that the CIA finally released a study showing that $62 million of live aid went to Ethiopian rebels.
	Well, I guess it's a form of aid.
	Yeah, isn't that cool?
	Unbelievable.
	Unbelievable!
	Not really.
	If you listen to this show, you believe it.
	No, but it still makes you irked.
	Somewhat.
	All right, donations.
	We got a plenty.
	Okay, we got a bunch of notes I'm going to read separately because they're detached.
	John Kelly, 5445, Charlotte, North Carolina, getsilverandgold.com, 6466.
	There's a long note with that.
	And by the way, getsilverandgold.com seems like a pretty good operation if you want silver and gold.
	John Schweitzer, Evansville, Illinois, 99.99, which is good.
	And then you flip it upside down and you got Lance Coviello from Rhinebeck, New York with 66.66.
	Oh, interesting.
	Isn't that interesting?
	One came in right after the other, which I thought was typically weird.
	Cool.
	Phillips Shane, Brooklyn, $62.
	Thomas Schultz in Stuttgart, $51.
	I love Stuttgart.
	Why are you talking like a Nazi?
	Why do you have to do that?
	Tom Bushey, 5510, who has another hidden cabin we can hide in.
	You know, it doesn't have internet because we're going to need that.
	And he says it's, uh, but 5510 is actually double nickels on the dime.
	Hell yeah!
	Fo-shizzle.
	I thought that was great.
	By the way, any white guy that says fo-shizzle, automatic.
	Douchebag!
	Yeah, absolutely.
	I agree with that.
	Also, if you throw gang signs in pictures and you're white, same thing.
	Gang signs.
	Douchebag!
	Totally.
	But I like the double nickels on the dime.
	So anybody who wants to contribute that amount, they'll get a double nickels on the dime.
	That's another song Jeff Smith can do.
	I love it.
	He could.
	James Lowry, 101, from Parts Unknown.
	He wants to make sure that he lets everybody know that his friend, or supposed friend, Chris, is a douchebag.
	Oh, no.
	Douchebag!
	Yeah, Chris.
	People are going to start using that as ringtones.
	Chris is a douchebag, and then you hit the douchebag.
	It's going to be perfect.
	It could be good.
	Then we got a bunch of notes with a bunch of call-outs for douchebags.
	None of them came in from our founding producers.
	Whoops.
	We have a founding producer program that we're closing, by the way, like today.
	Yeah, today is the last day, or tomorrow, whatever.
	And a lot of people gave us a lot of money for that, which is good because we're going to need it.
	And we got some...
	Jason Carney writes...
	He wants to snag some new listeners.
	I'm just going to quote from him.
	Glenn, the devious Chinaman Chang...
	Mufasa Lul, Bacon Hater, Bari, Mike Double Wide Loftus, Juan Not-A-Mexican, Zaldumbida, I guess, Albert Loscorlum.
	We all work in federal finance.
	You wouldn't believe the inefficiency and waste we've seen here in Washington, D.C. Love the show.
	Keep up the good work.
	So are those guys douchebags?
	Yeah, I guess so.
	Douchebags!
	But only, I think, because they're not listeners.
	He got Joseph Petridis wanting to donate to see if he got a raise after my year in review went well.
	Yeah, he actually said he got a huge raise the day after he donated.
	Petridis?
	Yeah.
	He sent me this whole letter.
	He goes on and on and he says he's looking for Java and Oracle guys out of Reston, Virginia.
	Wink, wink.
	Yeah.
	I sent him an email, and he put it in, so I'm going to give it to you if you guys want a code for this guy.
	Joe.Patridis, P-E-T-R-I-D-E-S, at Hotmail.com.
	And he gets $3,000.
	This is the good news.
	He gets $3,000 for any referral who stays longer than 180 days, and $500 goes with the No Agenda coffers.
	If something works out.
	Thank you.
	That would be highly appreciated.
	He also wants to call out the former owner of a 40-acre security company who lives in San Francisco and probably doesn't want his name mentioned.
	You know who you are.
	And I have one word to describe you since you haven't donated yet.
	Douchebag.
	Douchebag.
	Unbelievable.
	Jenny Maywood sent us an email.
	Adam and John, I want to share a bit of my good luck after donating to No Agenda.
	I signed up for a $5 a month donation the weekend of 2-23.
	The next week, a lady that I see in the gym often asks me if I lost an earring.
	Turns out she found an earring of mine that I'd lost over a month, maybe two months ago.
	These earrings are fake diamonds, but meant a lot to me because my mom had recently given them to me for my birthday.
	It was like finding a needle in a million haystacks.
	I had no idea where I lost the earring until it was found.
	I blame my good luck on donating to the show.
	There you have it.
	I'm actually buying into this.
	All right.
	Steven Guerrero, who donated, loves the show, blah, blah, blah.
	He's the one with the InsideTrack.com.
	InsideTrack, without an I, dot com.
	It has this little interesting product for your laptop.
	If you use the coupon code NOAGENDA to save 25% on the premium version, which I assume will be.
	Oh, nice.
	You know, someone should do the premium code douchebag.
	We also have somebody plugging, we're going to put it in the show notes, the Android app.
	He's giving us 100% of the proceeds from the Android app that plays the show.
	Wait a minute, is this one I have in the, well, make sure you give me the link later.
	Or give it to me now if you can.
	It's a bit.ly link, so it's real easy.
	It's bit.ly slash NAS. Maybe I already have that.
	It's an Android app?
	I think it's either slash NAS underlying Android, which could be it too.
	Yeah, that's what it is.
	NAS underlying Android.
	Yeah, and he sent his entire proceeds for the sales.
	So bit.ly slash NAS underscore Android?
	Yeah.
	Like that?
	Yeah.
	Okay, good.
	I'll put it in the show notes later.
	So he sent us the entire amount.
	That's cool.
	What does it cost?
	You're supposed to ask me, how much was it?
	I just said, what does it cost?
	No, I don't know what the app costs.
	I'm just saying he sent all his money to us.
	Oh, how much was it?
	That's a lead-in for you to say, well, how much was that?
	Well, John.
	John.
	Douchebag.
	How much was that?
	Five bucks.
	Cool.
	All right.
	So I guess nobody on the Android platform listens to Noah Champ.
	Yeah, but you know what?
	There's no amount too big or too small.
	It has its potential.
	We appreciate it all.
	We appreciate it all.
	I have donated several times, writes Michael Cosme, because the show is seriously one of the greatest sources of information in my week, and I send tweets and buzzes and emails encouraging friends and others to listen.
	and never before have I felt compelled to do a DB call-out before.
	And as a network engineer, you know how much we love you admins and network engineers, you will save the world eventually, and part-time app developer for Apple, and now Android, I request that you call Apple Inc. a total douchebag for this nonsensical patent lawsuit against HTC Google. I request that you call Apple Inc. a total douchebag Yeah.
	I told them we weren't going to do that.
	Oh, really?
	That's okay.
	We need to have a meeting.
	We don't need meetings.
	We should have a pre-show meeting.
	That's what we're not going to do.
	We need a meeting.
	Yes, let's do meetings.
	John, good idea.
	We need meetings.
	One thing is screwed.
	We need meetings, dude, for sure.
	This is awesome.
	This is awesome.
	Philip Shane, a former ABC News producer, working with Peter Jennings until his untimely death donated some money.
	He had a bunch of interesting commentary, a very long note, but he did have to say this.
	Besides all his compliments, he says, P.S. Adam may be interested in an excellent ABC documentary I edited with Peter Jennings called UFOs, Seeing is Believing.
	Jennings died shortly after we aired the program, I'm just saying.
	I know.
	Fantastic.
	I'm going to probably interview him.
	It'll be one of our first stream interviews because I think everyone has been doing a great job at supporting us.
	We're nowhere near anywhere we need to be for self-support and really quitting other things.
	But I feel the love, so I'm just going to step it up.
	We're already doing the equivalent of three shows with our two times two hours a week But I feel that I can just step it up one more notch, and I want to get those, particularly because of all the founding producers for the stream, I'm going to start doing that, and also daily source code.
	I just had to get the move over and everything, and it would be nice if I could sell the fucking plane.
	That would help.
	No, that would be all I'd need.
	That would be it.
	That would guarantee me a year of concentrating only on this.
	Okay, we got a note from James Delnort, the GetSilverandGold.com.
	It's G-E-T-Silver-A-N-D-Gold.com, all one word.
	He gave us an odd donation that was 32.33 times 2.32.
	It's the...
	Two degrees of the hidden 33 degrees of masonry and the enigmatic 23 reversed.
	See Robert Anton Wilson in the Illuminatis trilogy for more on the number 23.
	Blah, blah, blah.
	It went on and on with this calculation.
	Whatever the case is, if anybody...
	If anybody buys anything from him, mention the No Agenda show or something, and I think we'll get some more crazy Masonic numbers.
	I bet you a Bucky's a Mason.
	Tradewindsaviation.com for those of you who are looking for it.
	It's the November 277 Delta Sierra.
	People are asking about the plane.
	It's been up for a couple weeks.
	James Lowry writes, I hope you receive your donation of 1-0-1-0-1 for hookers and blow money.
	I'm still not great with the PayPal as I've set up an account for the sole purpose of donating to Noah Jenner.
	That's nice.
	I hope this is enough to buy a douchebag of the week, although we haven't done that.
	A shout out from my friend Chris Costin.
	That's who it was.
	He's in Australia.
	Well, I think it buys one.
	Douchebag!
	I think that covers most of the important notes.
	There's one or two for some executive producer.
	A guy named Render Tank is broke and he sent us his last couple of dollars hoping to find work.
	We've got a bunch of people that says they've got jobs after they sent us money.
	Executive founder and producer Clancy Childs for the stream wanted to make a note.
	He says, get Marshall Stark a job.
	And he's a douchebag.
	Don't know why.
	Douchebag!
	But he apparently is a douchebag.
	So we appreciate all of these donations, no matter what size they are.
	And if you give a larger donation, please consider joining one of our programs, like the $30 a month or the $5 a month.
	It's that base.
	And actually, your son Eric has been doing a lot of analysis for us, helping us understand where the growth is.
	I haven't really had enough time to parse it all, but...
	It seems to be an important thing to join up to an ongoing program.
	Yeah.
	I just had the one last call out.
	Founding producer Corey Kaler wants us to plug PlanetCorey.com.
	That's P-L-A-N-E-T-C-O-R-E-Y.com.
	He has a song, which is free.
	You can download on how to save the world.
	And you might want to go over there and see what he's up to.
	I think that's it.
	Okay.
	Good news, John.
	Well, first of all, let's say NoAgendaShow.com to donate Dvorak.org slash NA or ChannelDvorak.com slash NA. And I think we're holding up our end of the bargain here.
	So don't be a douchebag.
	Donate.
	Because before you know it, your neighbor's going to call you out and it ain't pretty.
	Douchebag.
	I don't know.
	I still say I have mixed feelings about the douchebag.
	We need a better jingle.
	We need more jingles because we've got so many douchebags in the world.
	We need to liven it up a bit.
	Oh, and by the way, I do have a note from our new knight, which I'll read next week because it's buried in my email.
	Rene, there in Harlem.
	Sir Rene.
	Sir Rene, who was called out as a douchebag and he decided to become a knight.
	He's also got a bunch of complaints about being called a douchebag in the first place.
	And we'll get back to him because he's now at the top of our discussion list.
	Hey, there's very good...
	A lot of knights from the Netherlands.
	I think they respond to this more positively.
	Well, the Netherlands, you know, people are waking up over here.
	They're waking up and they're going, wait a minute, all these frickers in The Hague, they're all...
	Douchebags!
	This is wrong!
	And you should see the news over here.
	It's just funny.
	And people are just so asleep here.
	Well, you know, you're over there and you have not brought up any European news at all.
	Yeah, I brought up, well, there's a couple of things regarding the European Union, the United States of Europe I want to talk about, but first, there is fantastic news.
	We will only have to wait one more week, John, because in one week, the proof will be provided to us that President Obama is actually a CIA operative gone rogue.
	And here is the proof.
	You're right, this is crazier than the earthquake machine.
	I am James David Manning, senior pastor of the Atla World Missionary Church in Harlem, New York.
	I'm also the originator of the Columbia-Obama trial scheduled for the 14th of May.
	I'm sorry, I thought it was March.
	It's May.
	We have to wait a little bit longer.
	But we're on the leading edge tip because he is going to expose all.
	The year 2010.
	Due to the growing threatening circumstances surrounding this trial, I must now release the full transcript we wish to present, document, and prove at the Columbia-Obama trial later this year.
	Obama was recruited in 1980 by the CIA while a student at Occidental College in Los Angeles, California.
	The CIA needed Muslims who were fluent in Farsi and other Islamic customs and understandings.
	Obama was perfect as an undercover agent.
	The CIA then later enlisted Columbia University To extend his foreign student program to Barack Hussein Obama, that he might enroll in the universities around Karachi and in Pakistan, and also the Patrice Lumumba School in Moscow.
	You have got to see this whole video.
	It's about 10 minutes.
	It's our long-legged Mac Daddy, Reverend Manning.
	Is this the Mac Daddy guy?
	This is the Mac Daddy guy, yeah.
	Oh, okay.
	And he goes into great detail.
	The long-legged Mac Daddy.
	The long-legged Mac Daddy.
	The original long-legged Mac Daddy.
	And he goes into great detail about...
	Now, we do know that Obama worked for BIC, the Business International Corporation, I think it's called, which is a known CIA front.
	And so apparently on May 14th, he's going to reveal all the documents that shows that Obama is actually a CIA operative that went rogue, and they couldn't stop him anymore.
	So they decided, well, you know what?
	We'll just...
	Instead of...
	We can't kill him.
	Because now he's already too much in the public eye, but we have this blackmail of this...
	What's the guy?
	Larry Silver, some guy like...
	Oh, that gay guy?
	Yeah, who says that he had oral sex with Obama.
	Gay sex, yeah, whatever.
	He did coke with him and stuff, hookers and blow, literally.
	Yeah.
	So, I can't wait.
	I mean, the clock is literally ticking down to May 14th.
	But, you know, I love the sincerity of this guy.
	It does fill in a lot of blanks.
	Yeah.
	I mean, if you're at Occidental College, which I think, if I'm not mistaken, is right, and then you end up in Harvard Law School, it's kind of an interesting jump, but it would be expedited, of course, if you were connected.
	Yeah.
	And then you get involved in Chicago politics and you decide to quit.
	And now you've been saying on this show for over a year that there's a feud going on between the CIA and Obama.
	It totally fits, right?
	It totally fits into that schema.
	I'd be interested in listening to this, if nothing else, it's highly entertaining.
	Well, there's something else going on.
	I remember we brought this up on the show a while ago, and there's nothing on Wikipedia that I can find, but I keep reading about it, and this has to do with the CIA, the Bush and Clinton crime family, as I've described on these websites, the only websites I can find.
	I mean, I put them in the show notes under elites, under the heading elites, noagendashow.com, You have to read it, and maybe it'll...
	I just need the help with the research.
	I just don't have the time with my day job.
	And this is about the Wanta-Reagan-Mitterand Protocols.
	How do you spell it?
	Wanted.
	Whiskey Alpha November Tango Alpha.
	And you can Google it a million times.
	You're still going to come up with the same websites, Tom Hannigan's website.
	But this goes all the way up to 2010, to as recent as February 28th.
	Apparently...
	There was a fund which varies in size from $6 trillion to $25 trillion.
	This money is parked in Switzerland, in a Swiss bank, and this ambassador to some African nation, Mr.
	Wanta, was given the combination.
	So he's the only person, apparently, who knows the numbers to get the money out.
	But this money was supposed to revert back to the United States.
	And what you keep reading is, Wanta, Reagan, Mitterrand protocols blocked.
	Blocked again.
	And I'm trying to understand what the hell this thing really is.
	It's very difficult.
	But you read through it.
	It is fascinating to read these blogs.
	And what people are trying to communicate.
	And I'd never heard of the WANTA-Reagan-Mitterand protocol.
	And apparently, a lot of this fund throughout the years has been slushed away through things like the Child Defense Fund and all these hokey fronts.
	And according to all these articles, goes into the Bush-Clinton crime syndicate pockets.
	But they connect...
	Bernie Madoff to this protocol thing.
	And I'm trying to connect all of these dots and I can feel that there's something there.
	Maybe there isn't because it's so difficult to connect the dots, but there's a lot of things going on.
	Ambassador Wanta, W-A-N-T-A, please help me research this because as crazy as it sounds, my gut is saying, need to look into it, need to find out.
	And And it seems like this was some kind of agreement with France that this money was set aside and was supposed to come back.
	And by the way, if it really is the $27.5 trillion that is claimed, that would kind of solve some problems for us as the United States.
	What was the money taken out to begin with?
	It was like a rainy day fund.
	Where did it come from?
	I don't know, but, you know, gold, who knows?
	This is what I'm trying to figure out, but, you know, Goldman Sachs is...
	The gold tungsten swapperoo.
	Yeah, by the way...
	Did you read that they found some more fake gold?
	No, where did they find it this time?
	Hold on a second.
	Was that a German website that I found that on?
	It's like the most under-reported story in the world.
	Nobody wants to talk about this.
	Hold on a second.
	Where was the tungsten?
	Oh, boy.
	I'm sorry I'm not finding this real quick.
	Well, that's okay.
	I thought it would be on the financial.
	My experience with the tungsten storage is that you find them on the web.
	If you don't save page as, you'll never find them again.
	No, I have it in my show.
	Oh, here it is.
	German ProSiebenTV.com.
	Finds 500 gram tungsten bar at W.C. Harris Gold Foundry.
	Story.
	This is Dateline March 1st.
	German TV station ProSieben finds what appears to be some evocative proof of gold counterfeiting in the form of tungsten gold substitutes coming to the foundry W.C. Herais, which is the world's largest privately owned precious metals refiner and fabricator located in Hanau, Germany.
	The foundry has isolated at least one 500-gram tungsten bar due for melting, originating from a so far unnamed bank, which as the head of the foundry stated, made the unpleasant discovery not all that glitters is gold.
	And there's a clip that you can look at.
	The audio is in German, but there's English subtitles, and it does corroborate.
	And they have a picture of this fake bar that they discovered.
	So, yeah.
	Underreported?
	Yeah.
	Most certainly.
	Most certainly.
	Another interesting story came up this week.
	I just want to throw it in while you're getting your wits about you.
	Did you read a story about the cop, Adil Polanco, in New York?
	It's in the blog.
	Go check out the blog, Dvork.org slash blog, and look it up.
	He quits, saying, I'm not going to go out and arresting innocent people.
	I'm going to stop searching for people for no reason.
	I'm not going to keep writing people up for no reason.
	I'm tired of this, said this NYPD cop.
	Says, one police plaza's obsession with keeping crime rates down has gotten out of control.
	He blames precinct commanders relentlessly pressuring cops on the street to make more arrests for no reason, give out more summons, they'll show headquarters that they have a tight grip on their neighborhoods.
	So nobody's policing anything.
	They're just writing everything up that they can.
	There's a good audio with the meetings where these guys are telling the cops.
	Really?
	Yeah, it's very interesting.
	That's Gitmo, man.
	I'll tell you that David Icke came out with a great article.
	And David Icke, a lot of people call him crazy.
	He's written a lot of books and a lot of things he said have come true.
	I actually like his material.
	I think he's quite good until he gets to the end of his...
	Until he gets to the reptilian stuff.
	Well, he has latched on to the story that we started reporting on a couple weeks ago about this girl with Down syndrome who came out in Scotland who came out and said, Hey, wait a minute.
	I've been sexually abused by my dad, by my brother, by these sheriffs, by these high-ranking officials.
	And David Icke has a great article called The Fabric of the Web.
	And he goes into, well, let me just read a couple of lines from the opening of this article.
	You want me to send it to you on Skype for a second, John, so you can read ahead a little bit faster.
	But for the audience, this is huge.
	And it's taken me down a rabbit hole I don't like to venture in.
	But wow.
	I've had countless surprises and many shocks as I have lifted this stone and seen what horrors lie beneath, but few more than the scale of child abuse and Satanism.
	And that's the word scale.
	The fact that this is happening is one thing, but to realize how widespread and fundamental it is to establishment power all over the world was truly shocking.
	I've talked with people in the best part of 50 countries in my research of this subject, the abused, the insiders who know the abusers, and those who have dedicated their lives to exposing evil.
	Put it all together, the situation is as clear as can be.
	Pedophilia and Satanism are the cement that hold the establishment control structure together in every country, and these national networks connecting together to form a global network of pedophiles and Satanists all watching each other's backs while they continue to serve the control system.
	And let me tell you what he goes into.
	do.
	Do you remember the horrible massacre at Dunblane in Scotland?
	Not really.
	Where this so-called crazy guy walked into a school and shot and killed 16 kids and a teacher?
	This was 1999, I believe.
	Yeah.
	And so this is one of these cases where Tony Blair decided that the evidence and the entire case needed to be sealed for 100 years.
	Because this guy, essentially the way David Icke asserts, had to go and kill these kids because they were going to talk about the abuse that was taking place.
	And he asserts, and he's got some excellent research, that Scotland is pretty much the epicenter of these pedophile rings.
	There's Satanist rituals where they're killing children.
	And he has the same links we've talked about, about...
	Bush Sr.
	and all of his Boys Town USA trysts with Lawrence King goes into...
	So that's called the Franklin cover-up.
	The only thing they don't mention is the Netherlands, which I have mentioned several times.
	And so I've put a couple of extra links...
	I'm not afraid of saying anything on this show.
	The one thing I'm afraid of is this.
	Because this is the kind of thing where they're going to triangulate my iPhone and zap me from freaking outer space like they did with Michael Jackson.
	Because they do not want you to know that they...
	See, they're all blackmailable.
	This is the thing.
	It's like they...
	And all these people attract each other and they have gotten...
	Over the years, they have gotten into very high positions all across the globe in politics and they bring each other in and they all have...
	They're all, you know, saying, hey, you know, you better shut up or we'll tell about what you've been doing with kids or about all this weird shit you're doing.
	And if people do...
	Start to talk, then they get killed.
	And believe me, the Bushes, the Clintons, the highest levels in the justice system, in the police system, it's rampant.
	It's all over the place.
	And one day, it is going to come out.
	But I personally, I have a huge amount of respect for David Icke for really going deep into this.
	And you should take a look at this.
	It's under the heading elites in the show notes at noagendashow.com.
	So why does he go...
	I'm looking at this thing now.
	He takes this thing over somehow to the Lockerbie bombing, but he doesn't...
	Oh, that's great.
	No, that's great.
	It's a connection.
	I'm not getting it.
	Okay, the connection is that the Lockerbie bombing was actually a rogue CIA group that was smuggling...
	Drugs.
	And they were going to blow the whistle.
	And they had...
	Who's they?
	The...
	I'll tell you who they are.
	It's in this article.
	So there were like three people who were going to blow this wide open and say, you know, this is crap.
	Because apparently a rogue CIA fraction was smuggling drugs on these Pan Am flights and they're stopping off in weird places.
	And there's tons of reports of heroin being found in Lockerbie, which of course was all hushed up.
	But there were two people on the...
	It was about the people on the plane who were going to go and expose this group of rogue CIA agents who were part of this drug smuggling scam.
	And I guess that maybe they had something...
	He ties it in somehow to the child abuse.
	But it was basically the same people hushed up that...
	That hushed up the Dunblane?
	I'm looking at it.
	Listening to you and reading this is, I don't know what, it's flimsy.
	Yeah, but you've got to follow a lot of links to get into it.
	But the whole Lockerbie thing, without a doubt, was fishy to start with.
	Oh, yeah.
	No, and the reason they let the guy go is because obviously they had gotten there.
	I think that's pretty obvious that they wouldn't have ever let that guy go if he'd actually done anything.
	Yeah.
	The whole thing is extremely sketchy.
	There was a lot of early reporting on the Lockerbie thing and they really pinned it on some other terrorist group with lots of good evidence and then most of that slowly dissipated as we wanted to stick Libya with the And then they let the guy go.
	But it was the guy...
	Okay, this is the connection.
	It was one of the high-ranking officials...
	Because Lockerbie's in Scotland.
	One of the high-ranking officials who covered up the Lockerbie bombing, the truth behind it, who also covered up a lot of these pedophile rings.
	You've got to go way down to the bottom of the article.
	There's a couple more links.
	One is British Prime Minister Gordon Brown named his pedophile...
	Then there's one about Alex Salmon, leader of the Scottish Parliament, established pedophile networks, how they operate.
	That actually is about the Franklin cover-up.
	I mean, it's really fascinating, frightening stuff.
	And it makes so much sense because this is why whenever they want to shut us up and shut us down, and of course now the ACTA, the...
	The Copyright Act, which is going to be a global way of shutting down free speech on the internet, is all about saving the children, the pedophiles.
	They know exactly what they're doing because they are the ones guilty of it.
	That's why they use it, to make themselves...
	No, I think the idea of some of these new WIPO, the World Intellectual Property Organization, treaties, which we're subscribing to in the United States, and some of these other kinds of onerous censorship things that we're trying to get to, is obviously there's a reason for it other than censorship at what level and for what purpose.
	In China, you can kind of imagine it's because they...
	Chinese are freaky about managing all the huge population.
	They don't need troublemakers getting on the Internet.
	But the rationale for this in the Western countries is sketchy.
	But I don't know.
	And I think you're right.
	It's a topic that probably should be avoided.
	Yeah, because this is the absolute way to get two to the head real quick.
	With that said, how come Ike hasn't been killed?
	Well, he just started this one.
	He just started on this, and I pray for the guy.
	But, you know, the good news is...
	I mean, it always reminds me of, oh, you know, I'm going to tell you all these things about flying saucers that nobody can talk about because they're going to kill you, and he's on for a 10-year tour.
	No, the good news is, this is why I am the crackpot, because they can just say, hey, the guy's a crackpot.
	I'm a crackpot.
	You know, that's the easiest way.
	You're going to get me killed then.
	Yeah, let's not do that, because who else is going to read the donation list?
	Yeah, no, the topic is interesting and it's whatever.
	Okay, anything else?
	Geez, thanks a lot.
	Yeah, we can read this link on your own time.
	Here's my favorite that came in earlier.
	So, of course, some European news.
	Greece is still in the middle of...
	Of a huge crisis, because they are like the California of Europe.
	They're broke, and who's going to have to bail them out?
	The other rich countries, the big ones being France and Germany.
	So according to BBC, political allies of German Chancellor Angela Merkel says, here's what Greece should do.
	They should consider selling some of their islands.
	Ha!
	There you go.
	Which I think is...
	This is how it works.
	This is exactly how it works.
	We bankrupt you, and it's well known now, and documented...
	This is the old economic hitman approach.
	This is exactly it.
	And it's documented that Goldman Sachs...
	Help them cover up their losses.
	Goldman Sachs actually is, to this day, lots of links in the show notes, is helping countries hedge bets against the euro and against other sovereign debt.
	Now these are countries who are betting in the financial markets against each other, and Goldman Sachs is facilitating all of this.
	It's Credit default swaps.
	It's funny.
	It's just funny.
	And now we have Iceland, which we've kind of stayed away from, but they're going to hold a referendum, I think it may be even tomorrow.
	Because what happened is the banks there, which were operating as private banks, they lost everything, blew out all this money.
	The Dutch and the British government paid the people their losses and then went to Iceland and said, well, now the people of Iceland are going to have to pay.
	And so Iceland is struggling.
	This poor little country is trying to get out from under this.
	This is the true economic hitman because...
	The Dutch and the British will own Iceland.
	They're just going to take over the whole country.
	Like, thank you, we own you.
	Shut up, slaves.
	And it's really happening.
	It's really, really happening.
	It's going to be a lot of puffing.
	From the...
	Oh, I get to play it, I guess.
	Recall of Nissan cars. .
	There's the other shoe dropping on Screw You Japan, shut up about our debt.
	After the Toyota recall, now Nissan's recalling.
	Or is being forced to recall.
	So it has nothing.
	And it's just crazy.
	I had dinner the other night with a PR executive for Lexus.
	And I laid it out.
	I said, you know what this is?
	I literally threw a crackpot no agenda at him.
	I said...
	This is just the U.S. government telling Japan to shut up and buy our debt and don't mess with it.
	And he said, absolutely.
	He said, flat out, you're absolutely right.
	He said, I can show you all the other accelerator issues with American cars.
	This does happen.
	This is absolutely a whole big political thing.
	Yeah, I think you're right.
	Sorry.
	The one thing you didn't mention was, you know, talking about the earthquake machine earlier, was the fact that Taiwan had an earthquake hit just after they did a deal.
	One of our producers pointed this out.
	Just after they did a deal to get arms from the U.S., and so then they get hit with a quake.
	There's a lot of quakes right in a row here.
	Yeah, or as we say...
	Coincidence?
	I think not!
	Of course not.
	I'm not buying it completely, but I like it.
	I was going to do a couple of magic numbers just as a little intermezzo.
	I'll go.
	Copper price, after the Chile earthquake, as you know, the mines had to close, and of course these mines have huge investments from the Chinese...
	Current price after the quake, $3.33 a pound.
	And another news report, which just proves our lucky numbers are always on the money.
	In what has become a familiar pattern, they even say it right off the bat, a third suicide bomber dressed as a police officer detonated his bomb in the middle of a crowded hospital ward in Iraq.
	30 casualties.
	It just doesn't get any better.
	It's unbelievable.
	Because these numbers, they stick with people and somehow they have some magical power and maybe people believe it.
	I think here, 30 casualties.
	Okay, now you're supposed to read this article and you use words 1, 5, 14.
	It's like a quarterback.
	I think it's basically, I think you see the word 30 and it means there may be something in there, some information you need as a field agent to go do something.
	Oh, that's a good point.
	Sorry, I jumped the gun on you.
	Monsanto?
	I don't think it's from the Monsanto field agents.
	No, I have something from the Monsanto files for Europe.
	I'm over in Europe, man.
	There's all kinds of cool news.
	The European Commission, that's Starfleet Command to you and I, began a new push Tuesday to allow farmers in Europe to grow more biocrops, clearing a genetically modified potato for cultivation, despite persistent public opposition to the technology.
	This potato, produced by BASF? The same people who brought you Zyklone?
	I believe.
	What the hell do you need a new potato for?
	There's thousands of varieties.
	We have to kill you!
	There's something like 10,000 varieties of potato in Peru alone, something like this.
	Some ridiculous number.
	In the first step, in more than a decade, the commission approved the Amflora potato, produced by the German company BASF, also known for their audio tapes, for cultivation inside the 27-country European Union.
	Can you believe it?
	And we could see the potatoes planted in Europe as soon as next month.
	Oh, this is not good.
	The potato is engineered to be unusually rich in a starch suitable for making glossy paper and other products as well as for feeding animals.
	Bad, bad, bad.
	Currently, the only other biotech crop grown in Europe is a type of corn approved by...
	Do I have to say it?
	Monsanto.
	No.
	What did you call the Starfleet what?
	The European Commission I call Starfleet Command.
	Oh no, it should be the Starfleet Enema Command.
	So this is, I mean, genetically modified food, illegal and outlawed in Gitmo Nation East, in Gitmo Nation Lowlands, ever since that fine Lisbon Treaty, which was rammed down your throat and extracted through your anal cavity, this is what you get.
	Hence Starfleet Enema.
	And of course we have our friend Nigel Farage who called the president of the United States of Europe a dishrag and called the nation of Belgium a non-country.
	Well, he got spanked.
	By the Queen?
	No, he got spanked by the Polish guy, the President of Starfleet Command.
	Well, here's Nigel Ferret to tell you exactly what spanked him.
	Well, today I was off to the Headmaster Study at 12 o'clock, high noon, to see the President of the European Parliament, to talk about my intervention in the debate last week with European President Herman Van Rompuy.
	We talked about free speech and I told him that I thought the limits of free speech were the incitement of violence, not the expression of a political opinion within what is supposed to be a parliament.
	He said that wasn't good enough and what I had to do was to apologise.
	I had to apologise to Herman Van Rompuy.
	I had to apologise to the European Parliament and I had to apologise to the state of Belgium.
	Well, I made it clear to him that I wasn't prepared to apologise to any of them, but I would issue a full apology to Bank Clerk worldwide, just in case I'd offended any of them.
	Well, he didn't take very long to decide what he would do, and just in the last few minutes I'd been told that I'm going to be fined, the maximum fine that they're allowed to fine us under the parliamentary rules.
	I'm being fined €2,980.
	Free speech in the European Parliament is very expensive.
	€3,000 for a damn rag.
	So that was his public YouTube statement, but something a little more interesting...
	Is what he said on a Kipo Nation East, I don't know if it was a television show, probably a television show.
	I'm going to go past a little bit of the setup, because I want you to hear, I'm just going to drop in the middle of it here, because he actually explains the real outrage is not about calling that Van Rompuy a dishrag with the appearance of a low-level bank clerk.
	What is really about Belgium, and why is what is interesting to hear him talk about?
	A referendum on the Lisbon Treaty.
	So my point yesterday was to register an objection on behalf of all of us who believe we should at least have had the chance to vote for whether that man should have the position or not.
	And you don't regret the language you used?
	Oh, look, compared with the Westminster Parliament...
	No, no, I'm asking you whether you regret saying of somebody that he has the appearance of a low-grade bank clerk.
	Certainly...
	You'll be losing the low-grade bank clerk's vote, won't you, at the next election?
	Well, I accept that, David.
	You can't please all of the people all of the time.
	But let me explain what they're really upset about and why the Prime Minister of Belgium tonight is demanding that some sort of disciplinary action is taken against me.
	Belgium, I mean, the country was an artificial construction, and we're now at a point where the phlems and the walloons are barely on speaking terms.
	For nine months of last year, there wasn't even a government in Belgium.
	Now, Belgium is a prototype for the entire European Union.
	Belgium is going to split.
	It'll do it within the next few years.
	The phlems want their own independent free state, and when you criticize Belgium, you criticize the flawed European Union model, and that's why they're really upset with me.
	You see?
	Because that's exactly what they want it to be.
	They want all of these countries to be non-countries and just shut up and listen to Brussels.
	Yeah, I agree with that.
	Yeah, dude.
	I'm right on.
	I'm right on with him.
	What an interesting guy.
	Yeah, the problem is, you know, you end up with, I mean, it sounds good.
	I mean, you know, this is, again, this world government approach to things where, you know, if you can just get everybody to kind of stop being ethnically anything and just listen to a central source of authority worldwide, hopefully, we won't have any more wars or any problems that they're going to, you know, confront.
	Which a lot of people buy into because it sounds very Kumbaya.
	A lot of people.
	Lots and lots.
	Nobody listens to this show.
	Thank you.
	Doesn't history show that that is not the way it will work out?
	No, it always ends up balkanizing.
	It ends up like Yugoslavia.
	They always end up splitting up, and you always end up with these Bosnian conflicts.
	You always end up with ethnic cleansing.
	You always end up with this sort of McCoy Hatfield hatred because of somebody's granddad, especially in Europe where they have a long memory, and they make sure they have a long memory, or even in parts of Asia where they have a long memory because they've been trained since the days where their history was passed on just by discussion.
	You end up with a bunch of people killing each other in minor civil wars.
	And then that's where I think you're going to have a nuke exchange because somebody's going to get a whole one of these bombs and they're going to be irked about something.
	And people think they're always, you know, why did one part of the country get more money than another part of the country?
	There's this jealousy and there's separation of people poor and rich.
	I mean, there's just a million things that make this not work.
	It's actually better to have...
	Countries with really strong borders and personal identities that can stand alone if they have to.
	You can't do that if you outsource everything and you make one part of the world just all the manufacturing, another part of the world is all the bankers, another part of the world grows grass, and another part of the world grows phony potatoes.
	Which, by the way, is exactly what is going to happen.
	As our dollar will probably be devalued by 30% by the end of this year, and a lot of farmers are going to go out of business in the United States, they're just going to ship it in from other places and just make more and more money.
	Well, actually, they're shipping.
	Right now, I went to Monterey Foods the other day, which is our local market that has mostly produce.
	And, I mean, almost everything was from Mexico.
	Whole Foods, by the way, sorry to interrupt, Whole Foods, half of their stuff is from Mexico.
	You look at this organic stuff.
	Yeah, right, big scam.
	You look at the bottom, it's all from Mexico.
	It's all from Mexico!
	Yeah, we don't do any double cropping here in California.
	What they've done in California to make Mexico happen so well, and it's not a conspiracy thing, but it seems to me is that the liberals who run this state have done everything they can to cut the water off from the Central Valley, and the farmers are literally dying of starvation, and meanwhile the stuff has flown in from Mexico like there's no tomorrow, and a lot of it could be grown here.
	And we lost a couple of crop seasons because of this.
	Supposedly the Delta smelt, a little bitty fish, is being protected.
	And you can't, you know, run the water like we always used to do down the valley into the farms.
	So they're letting them dry up.
	So the whole Central Valley is starting to look like the Owens Valley, which is the creepiest place in the world.
	It used to be a rich agricultural area.
	They diverted the water so Los Angelinos, like you, could have a glass of water once in a while.
	Amen.
	Hey man, don't blame me.
	And keep their lawns green.
	Don't blame me.
	And do all these waste things.
	You know, so they can...
	So anyone flying from Las Vegas to Los Angeles or even from Las Vegas to some other parts passing over the Owens Valley can look down at what's an out-and-out desert and still see outlines of where the farmers once were that are all now deserted and abandoned because of the water situation.
	I'm guilty.
	It's always been a political thing in California, and now it's being done to keep the...
	So Mexican produce comes in because you can do it cheaper down there, and you can, you know, just...
	You can make...
	You can literally grow a bell pepper.
	This means, here, you have to ask yourself about this.
	You can grow a bell pepper someplace in the middle of nowhere, Mexico, and truck it all the way, this one bell pepper, all the way to Berkeley, and put it in the store and sell it for $1.19, uh...
	It's just the stupidest thing I've ever seen.
	I'm so sorry about my swimming pool.
	Hold on, let me take care of myself.
	Well, I already played your pet peeve of the day, so I can't lay it on you.
	By the way, I'm not buying into your thinking that the dollar is going to be developed by 30%.
	I think this whole thing is a scam.
	You should listen to yesterday's Dvorak Horowitz.
	We talk about this.
	Europe is essentially bankrupt.
	The UK is down the tube.
	The Greece thing is a fake.
	The whole thing is a scam.
	And if anything is going to happen, the dollar is going to go up in value.
	So, you can listen to that at noagendastream.com.
	The new episode, episode 55, I believe, is up of Dvorak Horowitz Unplugged.
	And I have not had a chance to listen to it, but I will.
	And I'm very interested to hear about the Greek thing being a scam.
	Another scam, which luckily is now being brought to the attention of the American people, is the fact that the Department of Homeland Security für das Hinterland in America...
	Has 200,000 contractors.
	I wanted to do this story.
	Good one.
	200,000 contractors.
	But wait, Adam, how many employees do they have on top of that?
	I'm just going to guess.
	I'm just going to say they probably have half a million.
	No.
	They have 180,000 employees and more contractors than employees.
	So that's almost half a million altogether, right?
	It's almost 400,000.
	Unbelievable.
	And these contractors, here's a little something from WLS. We've outsourced our homeland security.
	Yes.
	Well, listen to what's happening in Afghanistan.
	This is about the horrible death of Lance Corporal Josh Birchfield.
	Who was shot to death by private security contractors hired by the U.S. government in Afghanistan.
	Listen to the circumstances.
	A U.S. Marine from northern Indiana was killed in Afghanistan.
	And tonight, the ABC7I team has learned that defense officials are investigating whether Lance Corporal Josh Birchfield was shot to death by private security contractors.
	Contractors hired by the U.S. government.
	Good evening.
	Birchfield's fellow Marines say those Afghan guards were high on opium at the time.
	There you go.
	High on opium.
	In other words, heroin.
	Opium.
	It could be opium, straight up.
	Red gold.
	Big H. Texas Tea.
	The White Pony.
	Our drug references are so bad.
	There's a couple of canonical lists of drug references.
	We should get a couple of them and just start rattling them off.
	Would you like to...
	Well, if you're going to talk about Afghanistan for a minute...
	I know we're crazy over time.
	People are getting their money's worth.
	Yeah, that's true.
	Make sure that NoAgendaShow.com and Dvorak.org slash NA. I feel a little better about it if we get some good donations this week.
	Because we are closing the No Agenda stream donations as soon as the show posts.
	All right.
	You have a whole bunch of clips left.
	Well, I wanted to play a couple of them.
	Charlie Rose had Petraeus on his show.
	For those who don't know, Charlie Rose is the intelligent talk show on PBS, another national treasure, which survives by donations of viewers and, oh, let me see, companies like Monsanto and General Electric and Archer Daniel Midland's company.
	All the rest of them.
	Yeah, all of them, right.
	And Charlie Rose, I didn't think about until I listened to these two clips.
	This is going to take a few minutes.
	But first, Petraeus talks about leaving Afghanistan, and Rose starts to guide him into what to say, as though Rose has been pre-briefed.
	And I actually think he is actually briefed on what to...
	These things are almost close to being rehearsed, and you can tell when you listen to the way the conversation goes, especially the second part of it.
	Explain who Petraeus is for those who don't know.
	Petraeus is the head honcho general that runs everything, and he's the over McChrystal, and he's the one that's in the, you know, essentially, he's the top guy right now that runs Iraq and Afghan wars.
	And I find the guy, I've never seen him speak before, and I find...
	I saw him on this show.
	I have to take some photos of the screen, some screenshots of it.
	This guy has got some problems.
	I mean, I thought McChrystal was a nutcase, but this guy, he comes on the show.
	He's got his four giant stars on a special uniform.
	Generals get to design their own uniform.
	So whatever they're wearing, you know, it's official.
	And all that stuff is very important, by the way.
	We should deconstruct uniforms one of these days because symbols have very deep, mysterious meaning that we probably don't know enough about.
	Now, the general could come on a civilian show wearing a suit, an Armani suit, and if he wanted to make an official uniform, he could have four stars embroidered on one of the collars, and he could wear maybe one or two of his pins that he thinks is extremely important.
	He could do anything he wants.
	But instead, he comes out, and I swear to God, he looks like a two-bit general in Ecuador.
	He's got a million little pins on one side.
	He's got badges and stickers, and he's got a big name tag that's made out of black plastic that is drilled out Petraeus.
	Hey, he doesn't have a no-agenda night ring, though.
	It's unbelievable.
	He is wearing so much swag.
	It's just hanging off of him.
	He's got so much crap hanging off of him.
	All I was missing was the big giant hat.
	I mean, he looked like a South American stooge.
	It was unbelievable.
	And he's given us all this talk.
	I was disgusted by his outfit, to be honest about it.
	And the military knows you don't have to come out in this situation in a civilian show on PBS dressed like, you know, this ridiculous character with all this garbage hanging off of you.
	I mean, yeah, OK.
	He's got an excuse.
	Use the word garbage because I can't believe that every one of those pins that he's wearing is for some famous battle or something.
	Can I play the clip?
	Can I play the clip, honey?
	You need to calm down.
	Here comes Afghanistan.
	Here comes the clip.
	What happened during the review that convinced the president to make the decisions that he did?
	Give us a sense, not so much inside the president's mind, but that as well, What conclusions did most people sitting at the table come to?
	Well, I think, first of all, it was a very productive process.
	Is this leaving Afghanistan?
	Sorry?
	Is this the right clip?
	Is this leaving Afghanistan or Charlie Rose guiding Petraeus?
	I'm sorry.
	Wrong one.
	No, you're right.
	Here we go.
	...put, and that is the initial operation of a 12- to 18-month campaign plan that General McChrystal and his team have sketched out together with the civil military effort, and that is the operation in Marja, actually in Central Helmand, because it's a bit larger than Marja itself, but that has become associated...
	It is.
	It is.
	So that's the initial operation of this campaign plan.
	That's the first output, if you will, and still in the very early stages.
	And this, of course, was just to go and really have all the poppy fields under their control in Marja, right?
	Well, that's probably true.
	Just a couple of weeks into it.
	And this will stretch out, as I said, over the next 18 months or so.
	And of course, at the end of that, we're looking at that date that the president announced as the point at which we begin, begin, begin, a conditions-based transition of some tasks.
	That was total NLP, by the way.
	Begin, begin, begin.
	Three times begin.
	Yep.
	That was total neuro-linguistic programming.
	Let's do it again.
	A conditions-based transition of some tasks to Afghan security forces and begin this responsible drawdown.
	Why was it necessary to set a date?
	I think the president was trying to convey two messages.
	You missed it.
	I did.
	I'm sorry.
	Back it up a little more.
	This is where I started picking up on Rose, obviously, doing presidential talking points.
	He asked him out of the blue, just specifically, why is it important to set a date, which is, of course, a counter to what the Republicans like to say, well, you set a date, and then everyone knows when you're leaving, right.
	But they don't even mention that, by the way, but it's just one of these leading questions that has just looked like it was a talking point thing to me, but the begin, begin, begin thing is quite good.
	And this will stretch out, as I said, over the next 18 months or so.
	And of course, at the end of that, we're looking at that date that the president announced as the point at which we begin, begin, begin, a conditions-based transition of some tasks to Afghanistan.
	Wait a minute, was that Rose doing the second begin?
	Yeah.
	Wow!
	Yeah, that's the way it works so well.
	Oh my God, it's amazing.
	Begin, begin, begin, begin, begin, begin.
	When will it begin?
	Begin, begin, begin.
	Shut up, slave!
	It will begin!
	The point at which we begin, begin, begin a conditions-based transition of some tasks to Afghan security forces and begin this responsible drawdown.
	Why was it necessary to set a date?
	I think the President was trying to convey two messages, and I think they were equally important.
	One is a message of substantially increased commitment.
	This is the additional forces, civilians, money, and so on.
	And then there was also a message of urgency.
	And I think that was important to send.
	That was not just a domestic political audience device.
	It was an audience in Kabul.
	This was an audience in Kabul.
	This is an audience in some other areas that we've got to get on with.
	It might be an audience in uniform, you know, that we've got to get on with it.
	Oh, man.
	So, okay, now, so we get to the second half, and this goes on forever, by the way.
	John, John, should we maybe save this for Sunday?
	Well, no, because it's too...
	Right now, you're hearing Rose, you're going to have to run it.
	We're just going to have to go overtime.
	This will be the last bit.
	Affiliates, would you hang on because we're going to be going overtime on the show?
	Yes, this is a...
	I remember that.
	This is a message to the No Agenda affiliates, those of you rebroadcasting us on streams and on low-powered transmitters and high-powered transmitters around the globe.
	Please hold off your local news.
	We'll be going overtime.
	It's critical we do this.
	And because you've got the Rose voice going, you're hearing the neuro-linguistic stuff.
	Now, Petraeus seems to drop the ball here.
	He's probably getting so tired from trying to sit up straight with all that crap on him.
	And he is going to be led by the nose by Rose.
	Rose by the nose.
	What happened during the review that convinced the President to make the decisions that he did?
	Give us a sense, not so much inside the President's mind, but that as well.
	What conclusions did most people sitting at the table come to?
	Well, I think, first of all, it was a very productive process.
	And, you know, at the time there was, oh gosh, this has taken a long time.
	I thought this was terrific, actually.
	I mean, this is a process where the president himself had, I think it was nine or ten engagements, some of which were over two hours long.
	There's one, I think, approached three hours.
	That's a huge investment of time.
	The result was, though, everyone really having a common understanding of what the objectives were after really batting around these objectives and asking, are we asking something that's beyond realization?
	Are we really trying to create Switzerland and Afghanistan, this kind of thing?
	And so there was a refinement of objectives.
	There was a common understanding of how best to achieve that.
	And I think at the end of the day, the president was convinced that the best way to achieve that was this comprehensive civil military campaign plan that was laid out, and that required those additional resources.
	Before that, he had to be convinced of two things.
	Number one, that...
	Charlie Rose was there.
	He had some inside information.
	He knew what the president needed to have.
	Whatever the goal was, it was achievable.
	And secondly, it was something that was in the American national interest.
	sufficient heroin to put American men and women at risk.
	Yeah.
	Well, let's never forget why we're there.
	And it is important to recall, and this was recalled a number of different times.
	If you will, the core objective in Afghanistan is to make sure that that country does not once again become a sanctuary or safe haven for al Qaeda or other transnational extremists.
	Realizing that those 9-11 attacks were planned in Kandahar, The initial turning of the...
	Hello?
	Land in Kandahar?
	Yeah.
	They're making it up as they go along now.
	Literally.
	They're changing the narrative.
	This is like an improv session.
	This is like actors on the stage just making shit up as they go along.
	It's unbelievable.
	Let's never forget, the 9-11 attacks were planned in Kandahar.
	Oh, my God.
	I remember when we attacked him, it was to go get bin Laden.
	Osama bin Laden, yeah.
	No, it was all planned in Kandahar.
	By the way, but Lon's not mentioned at all in the interview that I can recall.
	Hey, Mickey, I'm sorry.
	What?
	And we got one more thing to mention.
	We do have a picture of Petraeus' outfit with some of his badges.
	Let me just mention a few of them.
	Joint Meritorious Unit Award, Army Superior Unit Award, Army Meritorious Unit Commendation, Master Parachutist, Air Assault Badge.
	Is this guy insecure?
	I don't want a general like this.
	Wait, wait, wait.
	I don't want a general that's this insecure.
	He's got to put all this armor on.
	He actually has a award.
	This guy, I bet when he was a kid, when he was in high school, had a big keychain.
	He had a big keychain.
	He was a hall monitor.
	He had all kinds of Olympic pins all over himself.
	A hall monitor.
	All right, John, we got to stop this.
	Okay, now I want to say, okay, we're going to end the show.
	I won't be able to do the Leno thing today.
	We can do it on Sunday.
	I do want to play after the show's over.
	We got something that's just a little too topical not to let go, but it is the end of the show.
	After the music's played, I'm going to play Sarah Palin's Stand Up.
	Because apparently Leno interviewed her and said she wants to do stand-up.
	So he introduced her as a stand-up comic.
	She does it about four minutes.
	And it's moderately humorous, but it's an interesting thing for Southern Politico to do.
	So that's going to be it for this week.
	Sorry it took so long.
	You know, we really need to reorganize our calendars and do a third show or something, because this is out of hand.
	I haven't eaten for eight hours.
	Nobody complains.
	It's 8.30 now.
	I haven't eaten since lunch.
	This is crazy.
	This is nuts.
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	We will be back with you once again, maybe a little shorter.
	It'll happen on Sunday.
	Join us for early service right here on No Agenda.
	All right, ladies and gentlemen, I'm very excited, can we?
	We have a new comedian on the show tonight.
	Really?
	She's from Wasilla, Alaska.
	Oh, yeah.
	Making her comedy debut, please welcome Sarah Palin.
	Sarah Payland.
	Thank you!
	Thank you, I am so happy to get to be here.
	This is a thrill of a lifetime, really.
	And Alaska being so different from Los Angeles.
	Here, when people have a frozen look on their face, I find out it's Botox.
	It is so beautiful here, though.
	So warm, beautiful.
	Back home, ooh, it was freezing.
	It was five degrees below Congress's approval rating.
	But great show tonight.
	Sean White on the show.
	Oh, what an amazing athlete.
	I watched him do a double McTwist 1260.
	and the only other people to do a double McTwist 1260 was last week, the White House on health care.
	It will be, though.
	Great to be on the same show as Sean White.
	Last time I was this close to the flying tomato was when someone threw one at me at a book signing.
	And they did!
	It's true!
	Not funny, it's true!
	I watched the Winter Olympics skiing, fighting on the ice, skating, bobsledding.
	In Alaska, that's our morning commute.
	How about that amazing closing ceremony?
	It was beautiful.
	The minute I saw the giant moose, I remembered, hadn't cooked anything for the kids' dinner.
	And that's because I've been really busy.
	And I have been really busy.
	Picked up a gig in Las Vegas at the Legend Show, playing Tina Fey.
	And now...
	Next I get the headline.
	I'll be the speaker at the NRA convention.
	So be there!
	Or else.
	The truth is, though, I'm glad that I'm not vice president.
	I'm glad because I would not know what to do with all that free time.
	But Jay, thank you so much for inviting me.
	I saw where it's been a few weeks of unfair, non-stop criticism.
	People who don't know the real story.
	And I just say, Jay, welcome to my world.
	All right, Sarah Palin.
	Thank you, Sarah.
	Good to see you.
	That will be at Zany's Comedy Club.
	We'll be right back.
	We'll go a little more.
	Sean Clyde, right after this.
	Thanks, Sarah.

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