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	Hey, I got an idea.
	Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak.
	It's January 31st, 2010.
	Time for your Gitmo Nation Media Assassination Episode 170.
	This is no agenda.
	Slowly running out of time on the extended stay in the minimum security containment cell and coming to you live from the Crackpot Command Center here in Gitmo Nation, West San Francisco, California.
	In the morning, I'm Adam Curry.
	Episode 170, where has all the time gone?
	I'm John C. Dvorak.
	It's Craig Vaughn and Buzzkill.
	In the morning.
	Mimimim.
	Mimimum.
	Mimimum.
	In the morning, John.
	Yeah, in the morning.
	So, we're coming up on episode 200.
	You know, I used to do that until I hit like 800 or something and I got really tired of celebrating episodes.
	No, but we can celebrate to get people to donate for the special episode.
	I have a better idea for donations, which we'll talk about in the donation segment.
	Coming up later.
	Lock in the time.
	It's coming up.
	I know you can't wait for it.
	The donation segment.
	We do have three executive producers.
	Three.
	Nice.
	Okay.
	We want three.
	Yeah.
	So our executive executive producer, the top dog, is our old buddy, Steven Pelsmockers.
	Wow.
	He is actually now contributing today to a second knighthood layaway program for his friend and colleague, who is known as The Separator.
	Should I put him...
	I guess he's a wrestler.
	Should I? A Mexican wrestler.
	A Mexican wrestler with a mask.
	Should I put that in the show notes on behalf of the separator?
	Yeah, you might as well.
	Okay, hold on a second.
	In parentheses, right?
	On behalf of the separator?
	Because he doesn't think he wants to...
	He doesn't want two to the head, so use the pseudonym.
	Okay.
	Well, Stephen, thank you very much.
	I mean, Stephen is way past...
	Stephen is carrying the show.
	If this were a charity, he is carrying the show.
	He's carrying the show.
	This is kind of like with the SAG Awards, when there's always one moment in the show where the president of the SAG Awards, you know, gets up and gets to say something for like five minutes.
	I mean, that's kind of where Stephen's headed, right?
	Yeah, no, he's going to have to stand up and say something for five minutes.
	And see how easy it is.
	Yeah.
	No, Stephen, thank you very much.
	Stephen, of course, is...
	See how easy it is.
	Where's he from again?
	He's from...
	Vandermark.
	Vanderdam.
	He's from...
	Vanderdam?
	He's from Vanderdam, Netherlands.
	Vanderdam.
	Okay.
	It's a lovely town.
	You should visit it once.
	Vanderdam.
	Stephen, thank you.
	Highly appreciated.
	And I'll tell you what that's worth to you in a moment after we do our Associate Executive Podcast.
	And then we've got Associate Executive Producer David Bailey, who wants to be mentioned at www.davidbailey.com.
	And curiously enough, he gave us 275, by the way, which we're very thankful for.
	He is in Flower Mound, Texas, transplanted from Menlo Park, California.
	Curiously...
	I've been to both Menlo Park, California, and I have been to Flower Mound, Texas.
	What is in Flower Mound, and where does that name stand?
	With flowers?
	You know, Texas is a little on the flat side unless you're in Austin, and Flower Mound is somewhere around Dallas, and it's a big mound.
	I think there's a bunch of dead Indians in there, so I don't know.
	A bunch of dead Indians or something.
	I don't know.
	I don't remember.
	Maybe it's dead flowers.
	I'm not sure.
	But it's a big lump of land and it's like a mound.
	It's big.
	Yeah.
	It's their idea of a mountain.
	Okay.
	And then finally, with David Bailey, B-A-I-L-E-Y. And then $256 was donated by...
	Now, his name is Elan Seamus.
	This is part of the money received as donations for his website, which is Seamus, S-H-E-M-E-S dot com.
	So he passed it on to us.
	He's in Permarend, Netherlands.
	Oh, Permarend.
	Can you tell me, how do you spell Elan?
	I-I-L-A-N. I-I... No, no, I-L-A-N, sorry.
	I-I-L-A-N? Yeah.
	Elon Seamus?
	That's a G-M-E-S. Yeah, that's not a very Dutch name, but Permarant, of course, is where they have a fine writing stable.
	Well, maybe he's a horseman.
	Let me read the way he says it.
	He says, phonetically pronounced as Elan.
	Then he has Seamus.
	S-H-A-M dash A-S. Seamus.
	Seamus.
	Dash A-S? A-S. I'm sorry.
	A-S. That's what he says.
	Wow.
	But then he has in parentheses one S only.
	So how does that work?
	Oh, yeah.
	No, one S at the end, so it's not Seamus.
	Oh, shame ass.
	Yeah, that's the mistake I just made.
	Shame ass.
	You know, you can always tell when you're on the A9 highway.
	I think it's the A1 in Holland.
	When you're right near Permanent, because there's this huge billboard on a building, which is actually the indoor riding stable.
	And it's one of those, you know, it's probably like 50 yards long or something.
	And they usually have the Marlboro Man on it.
	Big billboard.
	Huh.
	There's a lot of big billboards in Holland.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	It's a big billboard place.
	So I was driving around...
	Well, hold on.
	Let me just finish up by saying thank you very much to our executive producers.
	Stephen Pelsmacher is, of course, at the top of the list with David Bailey and Elon Seamus.
	You know that you can put this on your resume.
	It has been known to get people work without even handing in your CV. So, but it's a real credit, and of course you can always attach an mp3 file when you send off your resume with proof that you were one of the executive producers or associate executive producers of this program, No Agenda, episode 170, and of course it's a real credit because without your executive producer-ness, this show would not be a reality at all, and we're already on shaky ground.
	Yeah, we've...
	Yeah.
	We are.
	John was over at the minimum security containment cell yesterday.
	We were bitching about that.
	We did something good yesterday for our listeners slash producers.
	Yeah, we had...
	Somebody donated a couple of t-shirts from...
	Somebody in Norway, and they haven't...
	Written back or mentioned it again.
	I can't find their email.
	Now you're blaming them.
	They haven't written back, but yet you lost their email.
	You're such a douchebag.
	Well, they're Norwegian.
	They can afford to be blamed.
	Those guys are living the life of Riley over there.
	They didn't join the EU, and they've got nothing but money coming in left and right because they've got all that oil.
	They're like the Saudi Arabia of the Nordic countries.
	Deisters show up and take advantage of people's goodwill and generosity.
	So I don't have a lot of...
	I admire the fact that they stumbled onto a gold mine.
	You know, they always say that all the Scandinavian Nordic countries say that the prettiest girls are in Norway.
	Yeah, the Swedes tell you this, by the way.
	Oh yeah, our girls are great looking, but Norway, oh!
	Really?
	Yeah, a lot of other people have confirmed this.
	And curiously, I've been to every country in Scandinavia, I've been to Finland, I've been to Iceland, I've been everywhere but Norway.
	Well, there's probably a good reason for that.
	There's no nothing to do with Norway, I guess.
	And I always hear that the Swedes and the Norwegians don't like the Danes.
	No, nobody likes the Danes.
	What do you mean nobody likes the Danes?
	I like the Danes, but I'm not over there.
	Don't say it like that.
	So anyway, so we have these...
	How many Danes have helped us out here on this show?
	They don't listen to us.
	No, that's true.
	No, is that true?
	Wait a minute.
	I don't know.
	So anyway, so back to the two t-shirts.
	Yeah, we got a couple of t-shirts.
	Really good looking t-shirts using one of the better artworks that we received from Paul T. And the one showing us is a couple of communists.
	So we had Adam's...
	Fiance roommate.
	Roommate.
	Vicky.
	Who doesn't really like the show.
	In fact, she's been known to hate the show from time to time.
	But she was happy enough to model the shirt, so we'll have some pictures of that for you guys.
	And I'm telling you, these are good shots, man.
	I'm talking like no pants.
	Pants on the ground.
	Pants on the ground.
	True or false?
	They're good picks.
	We have the stunners.
	These are really awesome.
	So what are we going to do?
	Are we going to use this for our t-shirt promotion?
	I don't know.
	We'll probably just use it for promoting the show.
	If we can get that t-shirt, I think that's the same one.
	We could probably have that one done by Cafe Press because it's a stick-on and not a silkscreen.
	It's nice, though.
	Yeah, but I don't want crap quality.
	Cafe Press has improved over the years.
	I mean, okay, we'll find somebody else.
	Maybe we'll get another t-shirt guy out there.
	We had one before.
	I have to look him up.
	But he does on the silkscreen.
	So we had quite a crew over.
	It was a full-blown photo shoot with hair and styling and makeup.
	And John had said, oh, I'll just use the Nikon and I'll make the picture.
	So I got like a real professional photographer.
	Well, he happened to be there.
	You didn't get him.
	Yeah.
	Oh yeah.
	I called in some of the...
	I called in a favor.
	I called in a pro.
	Yeah, exactly.
	And so it was a lot of work doing this one t-shirt picture.
	Well, you had all the lighting that you need.
	Yeah, it was cool.
	So John and I went out and got sushi for the whole crew.
	Yeah.
	Which was appreciated.
	That sushi was paid for by, let's see, David Bailey.
	Yes, exactly.
	Just about.
	Without the tip.
	But this morning, after my roommate made my no agenda in the morning pancakes, she's like, who put wasabi fingers all over my keyboard?
	That wasn't me.
	What do you mean?
	You were the only one at that keyboard yesterday.
	What do you mean wasabi fingers?
	Why would I have wasabi on my hands?
	Well, because you were eating sushi.
	Huh.
	Well, I was poking the keyboard with some rice balls.
	I know that.
	Tell her to take it and sponge it off.
	Yeah, I know.
	It's okay.
	She didn't want me to mention it, but I said I had to give you crap about it.
	Uh-huh.
	So, I was saying before the show, there's a couple of you, because you were bragging about the fact that you're going to make a video about how to make coffee or something like that.
	No, pancakes.
	Pancakes.
	And first you open the jar, and then you pull out a spoon.
	You know, so this is...
	No, hold on a second.
	What I said on the pre-stream, which you might want to check out, because we usually, you know, play some music and stuff half an hour before the show starts, when we do it live...
	I said, everyone wants Mickey's recipe for the No Agenda Pancake, so I'm thinking, why don't I do an iPhone app with some video in there on how to make it?
	Yeah, I think that's great.
	And that brought to mind my kind of litany about how to spot people who can't cook.
	And I'm going to give everybody this tip.
	This is the way you can spot people who can't cook.
	They tell you that they can cook, eh?
	And they tell you that they're particularly good at cooking either lasagna or spaghetti.
	Oh, how about omelets?
	No, no, no.
	This is the classic.
	The omelets, you know, that people can do or not do, but when they tell you this, you don't know whether they can cook or not if they tell you they can do a good omelet.
	But if somebody tells you that they cook the world's greatest lasagna or spaghetti, I can assure you they cannot cook.
	However, lasagna, to do a real good lasagna is not trivial, so I wonder why people would take that as the blatant lie.
	Because they can't cook, and so they go and they buy that box of golden grain lasagna noodles, and it's got a recipe on the back, which is pretty good, and they follow it, and it actually is edible.
	That's actually what I used to do with Thanksgiving with my family up at Mead Road, Uncle Don's place.
	You know, it's like that big family Thanksgiving and people coming in from all over the country and all over the world and bringing in their famous this and their famous that and there's a cousin Vinny's this and cousin Allison's that and I'm like, I feel like such a douche.
	So I'd always bring in my famous stuffing stuff.
	Which was basically stovetop in the Tupperware box.
	And they all loved it.
	Oh, how did you make this?
	You must give me the recipe.
	Uh, sure.
	Anyway, let's get this show underway, John.
	I'm sorry.
	And now, back to real news.
	Why don't we just do all real news someday?
	Well, it's not hard to fill up the show with all real news.
	I think the one that is real news yet at the same time is just very disturbing is the new censorship rules in Australia.
	This is really, I mean, this is some of the weirdest stuff.
	What is wrong with that country?
	This is the stupidest thing I have ever seen in my life, and this is just a continuation of the crap the Australians have had to put up with with this government of theirs.
	I thought they were tough down there.
	As you know, I don't think they're paying attention.
	They're all out there in the outback back in the utes, which means revving up the engines on their utility cars, which is like a flatbed Toyota.
	Back in the ute.
	Yeah, so it's not law yet as far as I know, but it's proposed...
	As the Australian government is set to install the largest internet filter, it's like a big net nanny that sits between the pipe that comes down to Australia and the country.
	And there's now a new reclassification made by the Australian Classification Board as to what is X-rated, and I guess therefore illegal, And so what's going to be banned,
	as seen as massive smut, is women with an A-cup or smaller breast size, so basically very small breast or flat-chested, as that could be misconstrued with child pornography.
	Do I have that right?
	Yep.
	Is that something?
	Well, it comes along with another one which we didn't talk about yesterday when you were over at the command center.
	I found another one of these crazy...
	Actually, it's the Australian Sex Party who, of course, are fighting this.
	They have a very interesting platform.
	They have a very simple formula.
	Go after anything that's anti-sex, which I like.
	Yeah, it gets the job done.
	So what is also, there's two additional things that are being reclassified.
	One is golden showers, which is the practice of urination during sex.
	So that is now going to be seen as complete smut, outlawed, and I guess therefore illegal.
	But along with that, also included is female ejaculation.
	And, um...
	That's illegal?
	That is...
	Hey, don't do that!
	Hey, ladies, stop that!
	What are you doing?
	You're gonna go to jail.
	And so, as I was reading through this, the first thing I'm thinking is, you know, how ludicrous...
	How crazy has the world become...
	And by the way, that's happening in Australia today.
	It can happen in your town tomorrow.
	How crazy is it that the simplest of bodily functions are being deemed completely outlawed, smut, illegal?
	And then I thought to myself, you know, it's amazing that in this day and age, with a female body function such as female ejaculation, most people don't even know about that.
	It's a rather rare phenomenon.
	Not on the websites I've looked at.
	Hey, get off the internet and do your real work.
	No, seriously.
	How can you ban that?
	And I don't know if it's that rare, John.
	I really don't.
	I really don't.
	And it's rare because women don't know they can act.
	I think every woman can do this.
	Maybe.
	Whatever the case is, these Australians have got to screw loose.
	But I think even more offensive is the fact that some women, and there's a lot of women out there always thinking, well, should I get implants and I'm kind of flat, but they're retractive and they're fine the way they are and they're not built for big breasts.
	And now, they're being excoriated for just being their natural selves.
	I mean, there's not bad enough for small-topped women to have to go through life worried about the fact that nobody's staring at them.
	Now you're illegal!
	Now they're illegal.
	I mean, this is insulting.
	I think the flat-chested women of Australia unite.
	I mean, come on.
	No, they've got to revolt against this.
	This is just an outrage.
	It's revolting.
	We've got to help them with some kind of slogan.
	Yes, let's come up with a slogan.
	I'm flat, not taking your crap.
	Something like that, you know?
	Yeah, nice trying to rhyme.
	Well, we don't like it, and we have a formula against it.
	Our formula is this.
	We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
	You know, what we could also do, John, is, you know, we could just start the men of Australia could start walking around without, you know, without t-shirts on, without shirts on, with little rings drawn around our nipples.
	I think it was a bad guy.
	Solidarity.
	Probably have bigger breasts than the girls.
	Yeah.
	It's crazy, though.
	It's just crazy.
	What has the world become?
	What's happened?
	I'm watching television last night.
	We're watching, what are we watching?
	FX, HD, watching some movies, and every other commercial is for lube.
	Yeah, or worse, play my commercial that I have there.
	Well, hold on.
	What did you have?
	You got a commercial?
	Yeah.
	Oh, oh, oh.
	No, I see it.
	I see it.
	What is this you sold us?
	Condoms.
	It feels like nothing's there.
	That's the whole idea.
	This is new Trojan Ecstasy, a totally new fit, plus his side, her side lubrication to feel so much pleasure.
	It changes everything that I feel about condoms.
	Is that bad?
	No.
	I guess it's...
	Awesome.
	Awesome.
	Do you take debit?
	Trojan, America's trusted number one condom brand, introduces new ecstasy.
	You can't wait to get it on.
	I'll start the car.
	Go.
	Go.
	Go to trojancondoms.com to save up to $5 and to learn more about Trojan Ecstasy condoms.
	Just get a room.
	Did you hear that inside-outside?
	Yeah.
	So if you wear it the wrong way around, then you're going to get female pleasure?
	If you screw it up, you put it on wrong?
	The whole thing is stupid.
	In this commercial, they have this couple running in to the pharmacy wondering what it was that they just did because they're too stupid to read the box.
	And then the person behind the counter, not embarrassed in the least, is explaining it to them.
	And then they're panting and looking at each other.
	And then she, as she's buying these condoms, she's telling her boyfriend, husband, whatever the hell he is, get, go, go, go.
	Start the car.
	You know, I'm going to be coming out on the run.
	I'll be jumping through the window as you drive by.
	Give me a break.
	So it's that.
	And what is the lube?
	KY. And the whole thing, just like this, it's called ecstasy because apparently we don't know how to have fun boning each other anymore.
	We've got to have special coated stuff.
	Who knows what's in there, by the way?
	What chemical is there, John?
	What chemical that you can separate for the male organ and the female organ that can heighten your pleasure?
	And is designed specifically for the man or for the woman.
	What chemical could this be?
	Caffeine.
	Really?
	No.
	I'm just saying.
	I think you're going to buy it.
	No, but seriously.
	They can't lie in these ads.
	They say that, you know, it's like, oh, you're the man.
	Oh, you're awesome.
	Oh, that was great, baby.
	We would have had no fun if it weren't for that oily crap you put on my dick.
	Goo.
	Goo?
	It wouldn't have been any good without that.
	What is wrong with people?
	Have we forgotten how to have fun having sex?
	Well, they have in Australia.
	The chat room just pointed out correctly that this is obviously a plot by...
	Monsanto.
	To show the women of Australia Monsanto boobs.
	Genetically modified.
	Monsanto doesn't make boobs.
	Not yet.
	Not yet, my friend.
	They make everything else we put in our body, so why not?
	They might as well.
	Well, it does seem like maybe a boob...
	A boob lobby was in charge of that one.
	The boob lobby.
	The boob lobby.
	Oh, man.
	All right.
	Anyway, I have spoken to Mickey about it, and she's completely down with it.
	We've got to go to Australia, man.
	And, John, you're coming, right?
	You're going to come with?
	I need to go to Australia anyway.
	So I've got another one.
	While you were watching that crap on FX. Crap?
	You can play what I was watching, which is the clip swimsuit.
	Ah!
	Damn!
	I can't believe I missed it!
	Foiled to get...
	Mickey must have known.
	That's why she put on some...
	We watched Superbad instead of the swimsuit competition.
	Is that what it is?
	Is that what I missed?
	Yeah.
	Well, this is a part of it.
	Oh, let's listen.
	I'm really happy about it.
	All right.
	Come on.
	She's got to get changed.
	She's got to get changed.
	Don't run away.
	All right.
	Hold on.
	Watch your step.
	Watch that cord there.
	All right.
	All right, Cece.
	All right, you got to rip off this dress.
	Rip off the dress and get into that bathing suit.
	And by the way, everybody, she looks amazing in a swimsuit.
	All right.
	What is this?
	Get in there.
	Get in there.
	All right, Mario, back to you.
	What is this, John?
	This is the backstage activities during the Miss America competition.
	Could it sound more like a cattle show?
	It was ridiculous.
	Some girl from, I guess, Oregon, the girls voted her in as the extra person to get to go to the swimsuit competition.
	And this guy rushed her off the stage with all this, you know, this kind of cute patter about ripping off her dress and the rest of that was kind of weird.
	I couldn't watch.
	This is the worst Miss America I've ever seen.
	Wait a minute.
	So first of all, what channel was this on?
	I think it was on TBS or something like that.
	So it was like basic cable, essentially.
	Yeah, basic cable.
	And who were the judges for this fine?
	Rush Limbaugh was one of them.
	What?
	Yeah.
	That's all he talked about all week, by the way, on his show.
	He was basically bragging about being the candy man for the Miss America pageant.
	Then he had a back-end deal.
	Hold on a second.
	Ratings.
	It's Miss America, you said?
	Yeah.
	I bet the ratings were off the hook.
	Well, that's why you knew about it, of course.
	No, I actually caught it by accident.
	And I caught it just as this scene was unfolding with this idiot rushing the girl off and telling her to rip off her dress.
	I couldn't resist recording it.
	But anyway, so I started watching the thing at the swimsuit competition.
	They already eliminated most of the women.
	I think there were like 14 or 15 left, and they were coming out in the swimsuits.
	I have never...
	I'm not...
	I mean, I don't watch these things routinely, but I've watched enough of them over the years to say that I have never seen anything like this in my life.
	And anybody who saw this will agree with me, except for the two blondes.
	There were two blondes and all the rest were brunettes with the exact same hairdo, more or less.
	And every single one of these girls, and I swear anyone in the chat room who saw this would have to agree with me, Each of these girls look like each other's twin.
	They had the same body.
	They had the same face.
	They had the same legs.
	They had the same waist.
	They had the same top.
	I mean, it was like one would come out one after the other.
	It was like, didn't I just see this girl?
	Boom, boom, boom.
	I mean, I've never seen a cookie cutter event like this.
	Whoever was in charge of it.
	Reminds me of those guys who do casting on TV shows and they just happen to like one type of woman, for example, and every actress on the show looks exactly the same and you can't tell who's who.
	Well, I don't have the overnight scene yet, but...
	In 1991, the show was bringing in 26.5 million viewers.
	In 2009, last year's show, only 3.5 million viewers.
	So the franchise has obviously eroded.
	Well, they shifted to cable.
	I think that hurt them.
	Of course that hurts, but why else bring Rush Limbaugh unless you're going to give the guy a back-end deal, pun intended?
	And have him talk about it all week.
	Who else was a judge?
	I don't remember.
	Any guy who is a judge on this show deserves two to the head.
	It is the most demeaning thing to women ever.
	Well, in this case, it was the most demeaning thing to one particular stereotype woman, because I've never seen anything like it.
	I mean, it was like a bunch of identical twins.
	It was astonishing.
	By the way, John, if they ever ask us, we're totally doing it.
	Oh, yeah, absolutely.
	In a heartbeat.
	And they always make the judges on all these things look like douches anyway, because they introduce them and they're shooting them from way above, so they're shooting down on them.
	And they're down in an audience where they're usually surrounded by a bunch of creepy people.
	It's just pretty funny.
	But anyway, I couldn't watch much of it because it was like, what's the point?
	Well, for you, coming from you, that's quite a bit.
	It is.
	No, seriously, I mean, if it was, I don't know what to tell you.
	It just was a piece of crap.
	All right, let's get into something else here.
	I'm kind of done with that.
	Oh, I got one then.
	All right.
	Play the AFL-CIO. Wait, wait, stop, stop.
	Let me set it up.
	This is Moyers interviewing the head of the AFL-CIO about current events.
	Okay, now first of all, we have to say, because there are new listeners to this program all the time.
	Bill Moyers...
	This is the mistake that these talk radio guys make.
	You feel like you're not a part of the program because you don't know who the hell these guys are talking about.
	Bill Moyers is a PBS News...
	Communist.
	He's a communist.
	There you go.
	Thank you for helping me out.
	Bill Moyers is a communist.
	And who is he talking to?
	He's talking to the head of the AFL-CIO about the Massachusetts election.
	What is the AFL-CIO? Come on, everyone knows that.
	No, not everyone.
	Labor and whatever the CIO used to mean.
	It's a labor union.
	Yeah, it's the uber labor union.
	Okay.
	The communists and the labor union.
	Okay, you ready now?
	Yeah, hit it.
	...in the Massachusetts Senate race?
	It was a wake-up call, and we were predicting that.
	We said, look, they're angry, they're frustrated, and if you're not on the side of creating jobs, jobs, jobs...
	Yo!
	Oh, wait.
	Oh, no, no, wait.
	I've got a better one than that.
	Oh, you beat me?
	Yes, from the Colbert Report.
	About one thing.
	I think it's all about jobs.
	Jobs, jobs, jobs.
	The main thing here, jobs, jobs, jobs.
	Jobs, jobs, jobs.
	Jobs, jobs, jobs.
	Jobs, jobs, jobs, jobs.
	Jobs.
	Apparently, Stephen Colbert or his writers listened to this program because they finally put together the montage of jobs, jobs, jobs.
	We've been doing this for how long, John?
	Ever since we got this one.
	Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
	Let's vote for jobs!
	Yeah!
	It's crazy.
	Yeah, I don't think anybody can predate us on this one.
	No, no way.
	Absolutely not.
	Because Pelosi, when she did that, on the next day, boom, we got it.
	Immediately we had it, yep.
	And the next one, of course, without a doubt, will be this.
	Ah, crap.
	I hate it when that blows up.
	Shysters show up and take advantage of people's goodwill and generosity.
	Shysters show up.
	Nice.
	Yeah.
	I like it.
	Well, on the job tip, if you want to do a little bit longer clip...
	It's very obvious to me it all fell into place when I was watching the Vice President speak in Tampa, Florida, and actually he's the opening act now for Obama, but really like a comedian who warms up the audience.
	And it's kind of a long clip, but it may be worth...
	Joe Biden?
	Joe Biden, yes.
	It may be worth listening to it, because essentially what is taking place is there is a...
	It's not even a switch, because we know that this has been planned for a long, long time, and now all of the airport security and everything makes so much sense.
	It looks like we are going...
	There's a throwback to the days of, I guess it's FDR and the Interstate Highway Program...
	Is this presidency will be the presidency of the high-speed rail.
	And there's all kinds of tie-ins and connections that are just like when you hear it, you go, oh, of course.
	And I just wanted to play a little bit of O'Biden in Tampa as the warming up act for President Obama.
	New platform!
	By the way, I think they were all pretty much pro-O'Biden in the room.
	They must have vetted them.
	New platform!
	New platform!
	To build this economy on that will serve not just our immediate needs, but future generations.
	Ideas like wind power, solar energy, the smart grid, broadband, and high speed rail.
	And that's what we're here today.
	I wonder how much GE's got to do with this high-speed rail.
	Well, that is...
	Hold on a second.
	Something's messed up.
	Ah, my system is crap.
	I can't...
	It won't stop.
	Let's play out.
	Having made over 7,900 round trips, literally, on Amtrak, 250 miles.
	So right there.
	Oh, now I know why O'Biden was on the train all the time.
	He was setting up to do the high-speed rail thing.
	So he's the authority on trains.
	Yeah, because he's been in one.
	Ever been on a real train?
	Today, I am very familiar with rail.
	See?
	And today, you have no idea how pleased I am to talk about the announcement that we made yesterday, a warning in total.
	Nationwide, nearly $8 billion from the Recovery Act.
	So, how much do you want to bet that the work that had just stopped in front of the minimum security containment cell, because they're waiting for money to continue building this bus stop, which they have said will be...
	A bus stop?
	This is the world's biggest bus stop.
	They have said that it will contain a stop for the high-speed rail from Los Angeles.
	Yep.
	So you watch the work crank up in a second because the $8 billion has been approved.
	By the way, I didn't hear any announcement of that.
	This has not been on the news.
	I had to pull this off of C-SPAN. So, let's just listen.
	Funding to move us in the direction of developing a high-speed rail service in 13 travel corridors covering 31 states all across this country.
	Hello?
	31 states, 13 travel corridors?
	That's a massive undertaking.
	I mean, like, massive!
	Woo!
	You know what this leads to?
	Ladies and gentlemen, these investments have several goals.
	First, to improve existing rail lines to make train service faster and more liable.
	More liable?
	He said more liable.
	Is he drunk?
	I think he said re-liable.
	Let's listen to it again.
	To improve existing rail lines to make train service faster and more liable.
	Liable.
	Liable.
	It's liable.
	It's going to be faster and reliable.
	He's been drinking!
	Two, to pull cars off the road, reducing congestion, cutting pollution, and increasing productivity.
	What he doesn't mention, of course, is to make air travel less convenient, which, of course, they're doing a fine job by making it...
	No one wants to fly anymore.
	It sucks.
	Well, here we go with General Electric again.
	General Electric is bidding.
	Wait!
	Wait for it.
	You're Googling ahead of me.
	And in three, to begin to develop new corridors for high-speed trains that will go from 169 to 230 miles an hour.
	French trains could be 300.
	Which is pretty slow for high-speed rail.
	Ladies and gentlemen, like a corridor, right here from Tampa to Orlando.
	Why?
	So the Disney characters can get a ride to work.
	I guess.
	The hookers from Tampa.
	So you'll be able to get on a train here in Orlando in less than an hour without battling traffic and congestion.
	Arrive at your destination.
	Ladies and gentlemen, this single investment...
	It's not going to solve all our transportation issues overnight.
	Instead, with more than $55 billion of proposals from 50 states all across the country, we're providing $8 billion in seed money.
	And today's awards provide only the initial funding for the rail system.
	Like Tampa to Orlando route, more funding is going to come in the future as progress is made.
	We have committed to another $5 billion In funding over the next five years, it's a down payment on a truly national program that's going to reshape the way we travel.
	It will change the way which we go from place to place, change the ways we work and live, and it will connect communities to each other in a way that in the past was impossible.
	Just like the interstate highway structure did back in the mid-50s.
	It will have far-reaching consequences.
	Let me ask you a question.
	How can we, the leading nation in the world, be in a position for China, Spain, France, and name all the other countries?
	I love that.
	Name all those other places.
	You know, them like places, those foreigners.
	...who have rail systems that are far superior to ours.
	Ladies and gentlemen, it's about time we move.
	But this time, but this time, we're not only going to be providing better ways to do it.
	We've got to wait for it.
	We're going to be taking cars off of congested highways.
	It's like, if you've got a car, it's like, isn't the auto...
	How much money did we put into General Motors?
	Why the hell did we give them, what was it, $60 billion if we're just going to rip the car?
	We're running and we own them.
	Yeah, if we're going to rip those off the road now, that was good.
	That's just admitting defeat right there.
	Admitting defeat!
	Oh, and by the way, if you're in the automobile industry, screw you!
	Reducing carbon emissions and saving billions of dollars in human productivity laws just sitting in traffic jams, as studies point out.
	This is bullcrap.
	I contradict that.
	I'm sitting in traffic jams from here to San Francisco.
	I'm not going to take a high-speed rail.
	There isn't one.
	Bart is slower than sitting in traffic.
	This is...
	This is incredibly dumb.
	You know, this country is not really designed for rail travel.
	I mean, as soon as the airline showed up, everyone just jumped on that.
	Yeah, I was like, yay, finally we can get somewhere.
	Yeah, GE is bidding to supply new passenger locomotives for Amtrak and in November announced a joint venture in China that would make high-speed rail locomotives that may add 200 U.S. jobs.
	Yep.
	Oh!
	Jobs!
	Lovely.
	A couple of things we should know.
	One, let's take Brazil.
	Big, you know, one of the new up-and-coming countries supposedly.
	They have no trains.
	Zero.
	They got like one train that chugs along on the coast somewhere that moves logs.
	There's no trains in Brazil.
	Okay, so let's start there.
	They never adopted them.
	They never wanted them to use these huge, unbelievably large buses.
	China's got no trains.
	Do you want to go around China?
	I've been to China enough times because I said, well, I think it'd be cool to take a train from Beijing to Xiamen.
	And then you look, there's no trains.
	You have to fly one of the many multitude of little carriers that they have split off from China Air.
	And that's the way they get around in China.
	The only place that has these high-speed trains, I mean, they don't have them in Canada.
	They don't have them anywhere in South America.
	They haven't got them in Russia.
	Russia doesn't have a lot of trains.
	Where do they have them?
	They have them in Western Europe, period.
	Yeah, and it's mainly the French trains.
	And Japan.
	Yeah, that's it.
	But go name all those other countries.
	They have some crappy trains in India.
	We've got people hanging out the floor.
	They should actually turn up the heat on those.
	They should speed those up a little bit.
	That's cool.
	Watch people go flying off.
	But that's it.
	I mean, this is old technology.
	I mean, I think there's a couple of places, some corridors, and they already have high-speed trains on them, even though they're not the good ones.
	Running from Philadelphia to Boston to Washington, D.C. to New York.
	I mean, that's the only place in the country where it's practical.
	Well, but this is where the whole fix is in, John.
	I mean, air travel is being made as uncomfortable as possible.
	You have to go through the naked scanner.
	You can't bring anything to drink.
	You gotta shut up and sit down.
	Don't touch your luggage.
	Be quiet, you stupid slave.
	You're viewed as a terrorist before you can even...
	You're just viewed as a terrorist no matter what.
	Take off your shoes.
	Put your shit on the belt.
	Shut up, slave.
	Don't drink.
	Don't eat.
	Don't bring anything.
	No breast milk, which you know I need a lot of.
	And they're scaring you to death.
	It's like, oh, the guy put a box on his head and said a prayer.
	Oh, he could be dying.
	Turn the plane around.
	It's just nuts.
	So they're making that as unattractive as possible.
	By the way, who's hyping that up?
	The news media.
	Which would include NBC, which is owned by...
	Who are they owned by again?
	General Electric!
	Right, General Electric, who's going to be selling these high-speed trains who just apparently got a sweetheart billion-dollar deal.
	If you read the transportation lobby website, which I... Which I have linked in the show notes at noagendashow.com.
	You really must read this, the most recent entry.
	Washington's newest gravy train, high-speed rail.
	Stimulus funds create lobbying frenzy.
	So there you go.
	The Taggart Express is coming your way.
	This is a fiasco.
	That, by the way, is a fine reference, which you didn't get.
	I got it.
	By Ayn Rand.
	We have to have that Ayn Rand plug in it.
	I kind of like that at the end.
	Just listen to O'Biden crank it up for the man who will bring you these jobs, because that, of course, this is a part of the jobs bill.
	This is where the money's going, to build high-speed rail.
	In the future, we're making our communities more livable, all in the process.
	And ladies and gentlemen, it's now my pleasure to introduce the man who's leading us into this new area of intervention, the President of the United States of America.
	And the guy comes in like the Beatles.
	Brother.
	There's like three minutes of applause.
	Everyone's going nuts.
	The man who's bringing it to you, ladies and gentlemen, the Rolling Stones!
	He's awesome.
	Biden's a great opening act.
	So that makes so much sense.
	It really does.
	Everyone's in.
	The whole scam is set up.
	This is going to be a huge money loser.
	Yeah, it's going to take forever.
	I mean, all the rails have been pouring out.
	Some of the right-of-ways still exist.
	But they go through cities.
	High-speed rail needs its own dedicated track that doesn't have any crossings.
	Usually the ones in France are buried.
	It's one of the worst rides.
	I mean, it's a nice, fast ride, but you get on the thing, and the thing goes into a ditch.
	And then cranks the speed up to 300 miles an hour, whatever it hits, and then it's just, you're just flying along.
	But you look out the window, there's nothing but dirt, because you're in this ditch, so a cow doesn't wander onto the track.
	And then you finally get where you're going.
	It's one of the boring rides you can take, especially in Europe.
	Yeah.
	So, meanwhile, I was doing some research on this, because we have one of our contributors, producers, in Cologne.
	Cologne.
	As in Cologne.
	And so I read about the Thales, which is the high-speed train that runs the...
	Yes, that's the French outfit.
	The French outfit is partly owned by the TGV folks.
	And I read that 1.2 billion passengers have...
	By the way, this is going to come up in the conversation.
	I guarantee it.
	And it's going to be the safety because there's this.
	1.2 billion passengers, 1.2 billion, have traveled on the TGV and there has been no casualty to date.
	Now, this is interesting, though, because they had a couple of wrecks.
	And let me read you this one I think you'd be interested in.
	Really?
	Yeah, there's been a couple.
	And this one, here's the one that's most fascinating.
	Because on 11th October 2008, Athali's PBA set bound for Amsterdam collided with a local ICM train set at the Gouda station.
	Oh, I remember this actually, yeah.
	The Gouda station, I think that somebody got really cheesed off about this.
	And it was probably a right-of-way violation.
	Ugh.
	Okay.
	You know, you could actually do the Tonight Show with material like that.
	You'd be great.
	By the way, it's chowda.
	It's chowda?
	Chowda.
	Say it with me now.
	Come on, chowda.
	It'll sound good when you order your cheese.
	I'd like some chowda, please.
	I'd like some chowda.
	They're very good.
	So, we were talking about pronunciations the other day.
	Well, let's go back to the train thing.
	Yeah, we'll get back to pronunciations later.
	But anyway, so there was a wreck there, and then there was a wreck in 1998 when a truck was hit by Thales, and the driver was killed, but that was it.
	I think it's Talis, I think is how it's pronounced, actually.
	Yeah, it could be Talis.
	Talis.
	I have not been on Talis.
	I know lots of people who have.
	Yeah, that's why I was bringing up Cologne, because I took the Talis from Cologne to Paris, and it's a nice ride.
	No, but you're right.
	It's going to be so much better.
	Security's going to be better for you.
	But, I mean, is it really better, John?
	Is it really better than air travel?
	I don't think so.
	I mean, it depends.
	I mean, for example...
	in Europe that wants to get across the country and you want to see stuff, - Yeah, that's nice. - Yeah, the train's a lot more interesting.
	And if you're a European, for example, in Hamburg going to Hanover, which is the flight and the hassle to get in and out of the airport, even without the hassle, would be about the same amount of time as the ICE train, which is a one hour straight shot, And so you could actually commute from Hamburg to Hanover, which is not close.
	And so in Europe, we have all these kind of metro centers all over the place, like in Germany.
	The train is much more convenient.
	There's one every 15 minutes.
	And the infrastructure is set up for it.
	The people are set up for it.
	The environment is set up for it.
	It is set up for it.
	It is optimized for trains.
	We are not.
	No, we're not.
	No, I don't understand how they're going to get the rail, a high-speed rail, no less, from Los Angeles to San Francisco.
	I just don't see it.
	You've got to go over the grapevine.
	It's a huge mountain.
	They've always known this is the big problem.
	There's a huge mountain range between San Francisco and Los Angeles, down in L.A., and it snows up there.
	But you know what, John?
	All we need is some Reardon metal, and it'll all work.
	Yeah.
	That could be a part of the whole thing, man.
	They got Atlas Shrugged, they're plugging that again.
	Yeah, geez.
	Anyway, so this trip to LA, how many trains are they going to run a day?
	One of the great things about the European trains is that you can catch a train constantly.
	Yeah, like every 30 minutes there's one to Paris.
	And some of the stations are loaded up with trains.
	I mean, you go from here to there and jump from one to another.
	I mean, it's an amazing situation.
	We're going to have the one crappy train to L.A., by the way, which isn't going to go from San Francisco to L.A. down the peninsula.
	That train you're going to catch in San Francisco is going to loop over to Modesto or Stockton to the guts of the state, the flatlands.
	And so it's going to take you forever to get to the real main line, and then it's going to shoot down to L.A. somehow and probably drop you off in the middle of nowhere.
	This is idiotic.
	Well, Richard Branson should be really happy with his new airline.
	Extremely expensive.
	That's the other thing I wanted to say.
	In Gitmo Nation East, in the United Kingdom, so the public transportation system, a lot of people rely on it very heavily.
	They discourage all of the cars coming into London with the congestion tax.
	Amazing.
	Which is, I don't know what it is now, but it's probably close to $20 if you were to translate it into dollars.
	Mm-hmm.
	I think it's probably $18 or $19.
	But then you want to take the train.
	It's unaffordable.
	It's unaffordable.
	And they've taken all the toilets out for safety.
	Security reasons.
	What?
	Yeah.
	On the short haul stuff, they took all the toilets out.
	Why?
	It was like a huge brouhaha.
	We talked about it.
	Pregnant women were freaking out.
	And of course, nothing happens.
	You're like, okay, freak out whatever you want.
	Just don't take the train then.
	They took the toilets out because, you know, people were abusing the privilege.
	What, peeing?
	I don't know.
	I don't remember anymore.
	I just know they took them out.
	It's crazy.
	But the thing is, it's unaffordable.
	My daughter used to take the train to Guilford from London, and of course, she has to go during the, you have a peak hour price and an off-peak price.
	Yeah, Long Island Railway does the same thing.
	And you know, it was like 20 pounds a day.
	So that's, what, 100 pounds for your work week?
	That's 400 pounds a month?
	People can't afford that.
	That's like 650 bucks.
	Yeah, and this is a pass.
	Just to get to and from work.
	Yeah, and this is a pass.
	And of course, well, then you travel on non-peak hours, which means, you know, you'll be late.
	Right, you'll be late.
	And you have to stay, yeah, no, you have to, peak hours is there for a reason.
	And the service never runs on time.
	Ugh.
	No, this is not good.
	You know, the more I think about it, the more I'm liking that whole population control idea.
	I think those guys are on to something.
	Yeah, well, these guys are on to controlling our wallets.
	I mean, they're just going to break us.
	Who would you say, John?
	I'm liking GE less and less as time goes by.
	Really?
	Really?
	Who would you say in American history is probably deemed the dumbest vice president?
	Or you can even put a president in there if you want, because it's going to be close.
	But I'm looking for a vice presidential name.
	You mean somebody recently, you're not talking about Millard Fillmore?
	No.
	Let me think.
	Dan Quayle?
	Yes, that would be exactly the one I'm thinking of.
	He, John, is the...
	Chairman of Global Investments for Sibiris Capital Management, which is one of the most successful financial firms to date.
	And they are doing amazing work.
	And I'm reading about this company, and I'm like, oh my God, how can this dork...
	Actually be in one of the most successful financial companies there is.
	I mean, we're talking like, you know, bigger than, even bigger than what Tyco was back in the day, in the 90s.
	You know, this is like huge.
	And they recently did a very interesting investment.
	They bought, and this is why it caught my eye.
	They bought this company called, I think it's Talacris.
	Talacris.
	For $82 million.
	And this was like six years ago.
	And they just sold it for almost $2 billion.
	Would you say that's a pretty good investment?
	I would think.
	So what does this company do?
	And it's unfortunate you can't see the video for the commercial because it's even funnier.
	But just imagine a lot of African-American citizens sitting in chairs with tubes hooked up to their arms.
	Earn over $200 this month while saving lives.
	Earning money and saving lives is easy when you donate plasma at Telechrist Plasma Resources.
	We're looking for healthy people to become plasma donors.
	Your donations are needed to ensure our life-saving and life-enhancing therapies are available to the patients who need them.
	Your safety and comfort are our top priorities.
	And our talented staff is trained and has the expertise to make your donation as comfortable and convenient as possible.
	And you will be compensated for your time for doing the right thing.
	By donating plasma, you can help save lives while earning over $200 this month.
	Telechrist Plasma Resources, where we're saving lives one donor at a time.
	So this is a plasma donation firm that literally sucks plasma out of poor people, and they have a shot of an ATM with money pooping out of it.
	So like, hey, you know, this is a great idea.
	No wonder they call the Republicans bloodsuckers.
	I can get me some, I can just give up some of my plasma.
	It's only 95% water.
	And you give up your plasma, and of course plasma is then used for rich people who can buy it who need it.
	It's unbelievable.
	These literally are bloodsuckers.
	Literally.
	That's a good one.
	Dan Quayle.
	Dan effin' Quayle, the guy who couldn't spell potato.
	Yeah, well...
	I wonder if he can spell plasma.
	Maybe.
	I was just blown away.
	And there's a couple of links in the show notes that you definitely want to check out regarding this fine company.
	I think there was someone else on the board of directors.
	I'm always going to these websites, and the first thing I do is I go to invest.
	This is what you really have to get into the habit of.
	Go to the website.
	Go to the investor resources.
	Skip past all the marketing material and look at the board of directors.
	Look at the board of advisors.
	And you'll see how it all fits together.
	It's just a bunch of rich people bopping stuff back and forth amongst themselves.
	Plasma.
	Sucking plasma.
	Here's $200.
	Yay!
	Well, you know...
	Good work if you can find it.
	I guess you can't make plasma, huh?
	There is an artificial plasma.
	Oh, there is.
	Nothing like the real thing, though.
	No, no.
	Of course not.
	So, there's one other thing that's going on, which is kind of interesting.
	And I don't know.
	This is not being promoted in a big national way, because I think there's a large fear.
	But it appears as though in this next ballot, We will have an initiative on the ballot to legalize pot.
	Right.
	And it's going to be interesting to see how the public reacts to that, because I don't know where the money's going to fall in terms of advertising, but as far as I'm concerned, they should legalize pot, but I think the whole country is freaked out about the idea, because what are we going to do for our prison labor?
	You've got to arrest people.
	Yeah, if we can't arrest people for pot, well, we're going to arrest them for what?
	Yeah, they've got to come up with something different, maybe for having flat chests.
	There you go.
	But anyway, why don't you play the...
	I got a good clip here.
	It's a little long because it talks about the legalization process, but it also talks about something very funny happening in Oakland.
	A measure to legalize pot for recreational use will likely appear on the November ballot.
	Backers say that they've turned in 700,000 signatures for their initiative today.
	And that is nearly twice what they need to get it on the ballot.
	The measure would allow adults in California to have a small amount of pot and to grow a limited amount on their property.
	Local governments could then decide individually whether to legalize and tax it.
	If marijuana users need supplies, they can go to Oakland.
	That's where a mega warehouse, dubbed the Walmart of weed...
	The Walmart of weed?
	Yeah.
	I like it.
	Open for business tonight.
	Robert Lyles on the high hopes for the growing venture.
	Robert?
	Dana Mega is right.
	Behind me is 15,000 square feet of everything you need to grow marijuana.
	And that's because the iGrow warehouse store cannot sell marijuana.
	But you wouldn't be able to tell that from the line our cameras captured just a short time ago.
	And as you're about to see, because of some big store tactics being used inside, that just may lead to some mom-and-pop drug dealers.
	Wait a minute.
	Is this a place where you can go and grow your weed?
	Is that the whole idea?
	No, no, you buy the supplies.
	Oh, supplies.
	You know, they've had these places, like there's one in Berkeley.
	They're all over the place.
	Of course, cops watch them.
	And they're hydroponic places.
	They can pick up hydroponic supplies.
	And this all looks to not, because they don't talk about growing weed.
	But you go in there, and everybody in there is like Steve, the tech hippie.
	Oh, right.
	Hey, man.
	He's a beatnik, by the way.
	Yeah, I heard that.
	So anyway...
	But these places have all been small.
	This apparently place is huge.
	It's like a Costco.
	Do they sell seeds as well?
	No, I don't think so.
	Maybe.
	You know what's next, though?
	I mean, I can already hear the commercial.
	Buy your pot seeds from...
	That's a possibility.
	Yeah, this could be a whole setup.
	All right.
	From the moment the ribbon was cut, people streamed through the eight-foot-tall gates of iGrow, wide-eyed, and ready to buy.
	On credit, no less.
	I saw on the news where they do have finance lines, so I said, wow, I better come down here and see what the new business model's about.
	The new business model.
	Here's how it works.
	You put the seed in the earth, you put some water on it, you grow the shit, you sell it, and then you start it from step one again.
	Oh, this is great.
	I grow is trying to do for marijuana growers what Home Depot did for homeowners.
	So instead of trying to be in the closet about it, we want to talk to you about it.
	Owner Darman says he's offering do-it-yourself courses on the right hydroponic pans, lights, and bottled nutrients for the optimal THB. There it is, the bottled nutrients.
	Ah, you watch it.
	You watch Monsanto's gonna get in on this game.
	Gonna put the drug dealers out of business.
	And apparently turned NASCAR dads into their own growers.
	Shoppers with medicinal marijuana cards admit growing in the basement could lead to selling their crops to dispensaries.
	Dispensary owners tried to downplay that fact.
	You should only grow a little bit in your own house.
	But obviously not everyone's going to heed that.
	I mean, a lot of money can be made selling it to dispensaries or selling it in other ways.
	This is great, John.
	The future of America is basically we all grow weed, we all settle to each other, we get completely hammered, and then get on a train.
	Exactly, because we all want to get to the airport.
	Too much work.
	Too much work to go to the airport.
	Dude, I'm taking the train, man.
	And you know, the train has to go really fast, because when you're stoned, everything seems so super slow, so it'll seem like normal.
	Yeah, exactly.
	That's a normal speed.
	This is working good.
	And a warehouse like this seems to make that very possible.
	Well, it's already possible.
	There's lots of hydroponic stores, but this is more taxes and jobs for Oakland.
	But this place is like no other.
	There's a dock in the box.
	Yes, an MD is on staff, ready to recommend a cannabis card.
	That's actually the first step to cultivate.
	The reality is that our economy needs to be made up of a wide variety of different types of businesses.
	City Councilmember Rebecca Kaplan did not co-sign backyard sales, but curiously did not reveal this.
	Councilmember Rebecca Kaplan has been working on drafting ordinance to allow more dispensaries in Oakland.
	Now, why is that important?
	Well, Oakland places limits on the number of dispensaries that operate within the city limits.
	It is maxed out at four, and right now, all four are open and operating in the city.
	So if the councilwoman's ordinance goes through, meaning they would expand the limits here, that means this place stands to benefit.
	They already have plans of opening the dispensary right here in the parking lot.
	Dana?
	I can see they're going to open a lot.
	We've got to figure this out, because I'm a little confused.
	So it seems counterintuitive to, as you point out, the prison system, which they're all kind of all still jacked up about.
	Was it like 70 or 80% of all people in prison is weed-related?
	It's high.
	It's high.
	The rest of the country is higher than it is in California.
	Mainly because...
	California has, in a de facto sense, I want to tell everybody out there listening to this show, that California, for some years now, has become the Amsterdam of the United States.
	If you are a weed or dope smoker, I would recommend to move to California.
	You can get a card, like they mentioned on the show, a card.
	I mean, there's doctors here in California that now...
	No, they've got the doc in the box, the doctors on premises.
	Yeah, the doc in the box.
	The doctor will look at you and say, oh man, you need some medical marijuana.
	You need some weed, dude.
	So he signs this card, and that's it.
	The courts have said, okay, whatever.
	It's like a prescription.
	And you got this card.
	Now you can buy as much weed as you need from these dispensaries, which are all over the place, especially in San Francisco and Oakland.
	And, of course, the feds are kind of a little upset about this, but Obama promised to stop busting them, so they have to let it keep going.
	So this trend is not backing up.
	You know, this is going to move forward, and it's going to be complete legalization, unless I'm surprised by the vote.
	So that means people everywhere across the United States, and there's a lot of potheads out there, move to California.
	Please, we need to jack up our real estate prices.
	We need people to move to California.
	Yeah, Oaksterdam is how Oakland now will be known.
	Well, you know what?
	This just proves, because, you know, this show, this very show, was on the leading tip of stonedness.
	I was hammered for the first year and a half of doing this show.
	Until I gave it up.
	So once again, we're on the leading tip.
	Now everyone's doing it.
	Yeah.
	And we've already moved on.
	We've been dope there.
	You know what?
	It's cool for a little while, but after 12...
	Because these people want to smoke it.
	I mean, there's people that are potheads.
	They can't not be stoned all the time.
	I'll tell you, I was stoned for 12 years.
	It was pretty nice.
	Yeah, well, I mean, that's fine for you.
	I mean, other people, you know, don't tolerate it or they don't like it or whatever, but it's beside the point.
	But if people want to smoke or they want to have a glass of cognac, I think it's up to them.
	And California, I'm telling everybody out there right now, we need to get our property prices back up and we need you, stoners, to move to California and buy houses.
	I mean, buy weed.
	And weed too, yes.
	Don't forget that there's weed.
	I think this is just a stepping stone.
	This is a multi-year project because the next step is to legalize heroin.
	It's got to be something like that.
	It makes no sense.
	They're cutting into their own drugs.
	Well, something's up.
	But we'll see what happens with the election.
	This is the test market.
	We're in California.
	It happens to be the test market for this.
	And, you know, I don't know what would be next.
	I mean, I know that they tried to legalize prostitution in San Francisco in the last election cycle, and the citizenry said no.
	And so it's possible that the state will vote down the legalized marijuana thing and it will just maintain.
	But still, the medical marijuana thing is always going to be here and there's all these doctors that will sign off on anyone.
	So you can still get it, but it's not going to be the same as picking up a pack of smokes at the local Walgreens.
	Well, we're always keeping our eye out for future trends here on No Agenda, and the trend is buy weed and buy houses.
	Yeah, the houses are cheap.
	Speaking of which, I'd like to be able to pay for mine, and we could certainly use your help.
	I don't know how you're doing, John, on your mortgage payments, but there's not a lot coming from our audience.
	No, except for our executive producers, and I want to mention some of our contributors and producers this week.
	I'll reiterate, Stephen Pelzmacher, David Bailey, and Elon Seamus are executive producers.
	But the other donations are pretty scarce this week.
	We got 5555 from somebody named Anonymous who wants us to read the book Stones Into Schools by Greg Mortenson.
	Hold on, Stone Into Schools?
	Stones Into Schools.
	It's about the Pakistan or Afghanistan situation.
	He's concerned that we're caving into the Taliban who are horrible people.
	No, we're not caving into them.
	We're settling with them.
	We're paying them off.
	The UN is having all these secret meetings.
	It's like the war is over.
	The war is over!
	Yeah, well, read the book.
	I know you will.
	Also, Mark Honeyman in Victoria, Australia, who actually happens to be one of my editors on the blog, says, I need to be mentioning the blog more, Dvorak.org slash blog.
	He says, mention Dvorak.org slash blog more.
	So I have to do that.
	He gave us 50.
	Brian...
	It's either junk or yunk, J-U-N-C-K. I don't think it's junk.
	Junk.
	Hey, man, how's your junk?
	Hey, Coatesville, Pennsylvania.
	Gave a 60.
	Matthew Bickert, Nazareth, Pennsylvania, interestingly enough, gave a 62.
	What a coincidence.
	Proof of the random numbers there.
	We got two people from Pennsylvania.
	Never before we get anyone from Pennsylvania.
	Both give a 62 dollars.
	Interesting.
	60 even.
	Oh, 60.
	Yeah.
	Oliver Kiesler, K-I-E-S-S-L-E-R in Köln, Germany, Deutschland.
	He gave us $50.01.
	Which is a one-way ticket on the high-speed rail.
	I don't know how far you can get for $50 on that thing.
	Jonathan D. Norris, LeGrand, Oregon, sent us $108.
	And that's it.
	That's all we got.
	That's it?
	Yeah, that's it.
	Normally, it's like a four-minute segment.
	That's it?
	Yeah, it's a short segment.
	Obviously, I do want to thank everyone who's contributed, and especially our executive production team.
	But you can tell that consistently in 2010, and maybe it's just the economy, maybe it's the fact that more and more people are losing their jobs, I don't know, but we're about to lose ours.
	Yeah, 2010 has not been profitable.
	Luckily, we're getting enough $5 people who subscribe, which I would recommend to everyone.
	No matter what you're donating, please sign up for the $5 a month plan, because in about 20 years, that will actually be a sustainable amount for us to continue.
	Because what is it now, John?
	20 years.
	If I count all the $5 donations per month, what are we at?
	Like $900?
	I'm going to have to run the database and figure out how many people are subscribed.
	I can't be far off.
	I can't be far off.
	We need, the way I see it, 5,000 people, 5,000 subscribers, which is not a lot, by the way, for a subscription thing.
	I mean, a magazine picks up millions.
	We need 5,000 subscribers at $5.
	To sustain doing this show as long as you want to listen to it.
	I mean, we could go on forever because that would be a baseline that would sustain us.
	All right.
	Let me mention two things.
	First of all, I'm very upset.
	And again, this is because all we do is this show.
	I mean, it's just the two of us.
	We have other jobs, so there's just not enough hours in the day to do everything.
	And I missed an email from Bryden.
	No Agenda listener from Perth, Western Australia, who's also an optics researcher from UWA. He was in town for the Photonics West Conference at the Moscone Center, a stone's throw away.
	And he said, I figured I'd take the opportunity to say hello and if you had time to buy you a beer and give you a cash, no agenda donation.
	He says his lab has done a small amount of work on the terahertz imaging systems, which of course I'm highly interested in, going back to our conversation about Reif.
	Royal Raymond Reif.
	And I missed him.
	He was in town Friday.
	And I didn't get the email until I'm prepping it last night.
	And I just, I overlooked the email.
	If we had like an intern at least, I wouldn't have missed that opportunity.
	Oh yeah, I got a ton.
	I don't have a secretary either.
	I hate that.
	And there's a ton of stuff that comes through that I miss and I find out about it later or I do a search on my inbox and I say, oh, well you sent me this a month ago.
	I know.
	It really upsets me.
	Lots of people offer to do work like that, but you can't do that with someone who's remote.
	You've got to have someone in the office, in at least a couple times a week, who's really going through the mail and doing all the follow-up on stuff.
	There's a lot of work.
	And by the way, I wouldn't mind someone else pulling some of these clips from C-SPAN. Yesterday, we sat through...
	An MSNBC interview following up on a lead that Bill Gates, CNBC actually, that Bill Gates had apparently talked about population control in relation to vaccines.
	So we watched through what?
	Like an hour?
	An hour of Maria Bartiromo with Bill Gates?
	It was the worst interview ever.
	And it was like nothing.
	We could pull nothing from that interview.
	An hour.
	An hour we'll never get back.
	Ever.
	It's gone.
	Wasted.
	So, yeah.
	So, Ryan, I'm going to say it's Breedlove.
	Could be Braidlove, but Breedlove.
	Had a very interesting idea.
	He really wants to see us get to a third show a week.
	And he had an idea which I think is, I'd like to entertain it with you, John, before we announce we're going for it.
	So everyone else just pretend you're not hearing this.
	So he's saying, look, if there would be a way to get you enough funds to do a third show for the rest of the year, then maybe we can set up something with an ongoing program that would work.
	And he did some very simple math, and it's based all on the magical number three.
	And this is why I like it.
	So, of course, we're talking about the third show, The Drive for Three.
	I'm going to cite from his email.
	In recent weeks, the power of three has been talked about.
	I have a suggestion to build off of that.
	Start a pledge drive to get the third show going.
	Ask for donations of $33.33 or any multiple of that with a goal of reaching 3,333 donations of $33.33 each on a deadline of March the 3rd, which of course is the third day of the third month.
	And that would be enough to get a third show a week going.
	Hopefully enough for you to afford enough hookers and blow for that third show a week.
	And I thought to myself, it's interesting if we could actually...
	Considering the size of the audience, if for a month, so essentially up until the third of the third, we just pitched the idea of $33.33, a one-time donation...
	If we cannot get 3,333 listeners to do that, then we might as well pack it up.
	And if we do, then we continue the drive, John, except we set a goal of every three months.
	Every three months, we have to get 3,333 donations of $33.33 each.
	And that would be enough for us to continue this show three days a week.
	Yeah, it sounds complicated.
	Hey, thanks.
	I like the idea.
	It has a symbolic aspect to it.
	You don't like it, do you?
	But, you know, another reason is because we went through all this rigmarole over the $30, you know, and it's...
	But it's the magical power of three.
	It would prove the theory.
	It would disprove it, I think, but...
	Well, I mean, we'll chat about it.
	Maybe we'll bring it up on Thursday.
	You hate it.
	You hate it.
	I can hear it all.
	You hate it.
	Okay, you hate it.
	I got it.
	It's not like I hate it.
	No, I got it.
	I got it.
	Well, what's your plan, big boy?
	Going well.
	Hey, hit that website again, everybody.
	Donate.
	Noagendashow.com.
	Dvorak.org slash NA. Channeldvorak.com slash NA. Yeah, John, your system's working real good.
	So if people would go to it, I think it would.
	And you also go to channeldvorak.com slash NA. I hit that.
	I hit that.
	I hit that.
	Okay, you don't like it.
	I got it.
	No, I'm just saying.
	I got it.
	I got it.
	I think it's ambitious.
	There's a...
	Alright, moving right along.
	NoagendaShow.com, Dvorak.org slash NA, and ChannelDvorak.com slash NA. Please donate freely as much as you can, and when you do, consider to sign up for a $5 a month plan, so there's an ongoing annuity, as it's known in the financial world.
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	Hey, you know, just a quick throwback to the flat-chested women in Australia.
	By the way, all flat-chested women of Australia, we love you.
	We welcome you on this show.
	You are not outlawed by our standards.
	You know, this whole idea that that constitutes child pornography, which, you know, is such bull crap.
	It's really pissing me off the more I think about it.
	Do you know how many women are just flat chested?
	You know, we have this fake sense of womanhood has to be big breasts.
	It's crazy.
	And you know my theory that people who talk about this and talk about child pornography usually are the child molesters themselves who are rampant throughout government.
	One of our producers sent me a very interesting list, which is the worldwide ages of consent list.
	So it lists by age how old you have to be to legally have sex in countries around the world.
	As you can imagine, some of them are actually quite low.
	14 years old in...
	In places like India, Honduras, even Germany apparently.
	I think France is like 14.
	Let me see what France says.
	15.
	15.
	But the one that really got me, because it is its own official little country, is the Vatican State.
	They have women?
	The Vatican...
	This is not about male or female.
	This is just, what's the age of consent?
	Yeah.
	Vatican State, in order to legally have sex, the age is 12.
	12.
	So, yeah.
	You know, now it's starting to make sense all of a sudden.
	12.
	I'm not kidding.
	It's right on this list.
	You have to be 12.
	12.
	We're friggin' pedophiles.
	Twelve.
	Yeah.
	Well, you know, I think it used to be something like twelve.
	I think somebody can correct us in the chat room who happens to be from New Mexico.
	I think it used to be twelve or thirteen or something like that in New Mexico, the state of New Mexico, until recently.
	I have the states here as well.
	Hold on.
	New Mexico, seventeen.
	Actually, it's older than most states.
	Most states in the U.S. is sixteen.
	Yeah, I said the states on the west coast is 18 because they don't want anybody having sex out here.
	Yeah, certainly not without your Trojans and without your KY. Because, you know, sex without your KY is just no good.
	If you don't have some kind of caffeine-induced lube on your member, it ain't gonna work.
	Something our producer Alex, who is a financial wizard working in the United States of Gitmo East, UK, has been tracking for me.
	We've been back and forth on email and haven't really been wanting to talk about it just yet, but there is a crisis in the sugar markets.
	Have you been following this with our friend Horowitz?
	No.
	So a lot of the crop yields have essentially floundered.
	Particularly disappointing monsoon season in India.
	too much rain in Brazil.
	And there's been a whole bunch of, and we'll see if I can put some of it in the show notes.
	He's really analyzed this because I think he is a commodities trader.
	And there's been a lot of really interesting acquisitions and all kinds of moves.
	And what he said to me two weeks ago is, you watch Monsanto's coming out.
	It's going to be some kind of amazing new sugar substitute product.
	But sugar, natural sugar, is going away because it's unaffordable.
	It's a huge crisis.
	Well, this is no good.
	No.
	The information starts to come out every once in a while, and then it gets squashed again by various PR firms, which is that high-fructose corn syrup, and there's plenty of documentation for this, is not digested properly, and it makes you fat, and it gives you diabetes, and it does all these other things.
	And, oh, God, here comes the letters.
	Here comes the letters.
	No, no, that's not true.
	The research shows otherwise.
	Otherwise, all it is is fructose and glucose and, you know, or sucrose.
	And the whole thing is completely out of control.
	I was at the store the other day, and I want to tell people out there, and this is one of the reasons just to be reminded to do this is why you should be donating to the show.
	Look at the labels of the food you buy.
	Look at every single label and look very carefully.
	If you see that it's got high fructose corn syrup in the – Put it back.
	But ask yourself, what is it doing in there?
	I was looking at some liquid smoke.
	And by the way, the best liquid smoke out there, if you're going to buy liquid smoke.
	I produce that every morning.
	Liquid smoke.
	What the hell is that?
	The best liquid smoke is cold gins.
	What do you use liquid smoke for?
	You use it as a flavoring ingredient or to fake barbecue.
	Why don't you just smoke something?
	Sometimes it's raining out or you want to just fake it and put it in the oven and make it taste like it was smoked.
	You use liquid smoke.
	Or if you want to add a few shakes of liquid smoke to some baked beans, it's unbelievably tasty.
	Or liquid smoke to tomato paste.
	If you're going to make pizza, it tastes fantastic.
	Why not make real smoke?
	I don't get it.
	You're not going to smoke a tomato.
	Give me a break.
	I've smoked cockroaches.
	I've smoked a lot of things, John.
	So anyway, the best brand is Colgian.
	So I'm looking at it.
	They don't have it in the West Coast.
	They import it.
	It's from Texas, I think.
	But anyway, so I'm using Wrights, which is taste more instead of an ashtray flavor that's not appealing.
	But I'm looking at the label of the stuff right next to it.
	Stubbs.
	And there's no...
	I'm looking at where it's to smoke in this stuff.
	It's good.
	And by the way, in ingredients on most labels in the United States are done in the order Of the amount.
	So the first thing listed is the most that's in there.
	Okay.
	There's more of that than the second thing listed, which is less than the first and on the way to the end.
	So the first thing listed on Stubbs liquid smoke is soy sauce.
	What is that liquid smoke?
	And then there was some sort of corn syrup.
	I mean, where's the smoke?
	The rights at least is just smoke.
	I mean, that's what you want to be buying.
	And the soy sauce, of course, is based on Monsanto soybeans.
	Yeah, I'm sure.
	So anyway, so the whole thing, so I'm looking at all these different products in the condiment section, and everything's got high-fructose corn syrup in it, with rare exceptions.
	But you look, and it's like high-fructose corn syrup.
	I've run into, like, tuna cans, you know, good quality.
	You think tuna, and you read, and this has got tuna, and then soy...
	It's got soy products or something in there.
	What is soy products doing in my tuna?
	It's another Monsanto product.
	What's it doing in my tuna?
	Why can't they just give me tuna?
	I don't want all this other crap.
	Because we're trying to genetically modify you.
	It's unbelievable.
	I mean, everybody out there should look at these labels.
	I think I went to this, and this is a high-end store with a lot of organic stuff.
	Oh, not Whole Foods.
	Whole Foods has got as much of this or more.
	I know, I know.
	I'm not happy with my Whole Foods experience.
	I think these guys are full of crap.
	Michael Pollan, the writer who talks about this stuff, calls it Big Organic.
	Just like big business.
	They're not interested in your health.
	And so they're pushing canola, they're pushing soy, which is another thing I don't like.
	But anyway, this high fructose corn syrup thing is completely out of control.
	Rarely, every once in a while I run into something that says sugar.
	I go, holy crap!
	Real sugar!
	This has sugar in it?
	In fact, Pepsi has made it, you know, and they brought out a Pepsi throwback or whatever, which uses sugar.
	I'm sure it's selling out.
	Real sugar, yeah.
	Well, it's going to get real expensive now with the sugar crisis.
	Well, this crisis could be artificially created.
	I mean, the whole thing, it seems like, anything that has to do with sugar, that for the last 10 years has been, there's a scam involved pushing this high-fructose corn syrup garbage, which is made in a refinery, by the way.
	I'm going to forward you the email thread from Alexis, or Alexis as I call him, and you'll see.
	Yes, it is a scam.
	It's an artificially created crisis.
	They're buying up stuff.
	They're closing plants down after they buy them up.
	All kinds of weird stuff.
	I would recommend people look on those labels, look on every label.
	If you see high fructose corn syrup, reject the product.
	You know, I've run into like tomato sauce or tomato paste.
	Some of them, you look at the label and it says, high fructose.
	You look at one label and it says, contents, tomatoes.
	That's what you want to buy.
	That would make sense if I'm going for tomato paste.
	But you look at the other one, it's got all kinds of crap in it.
	It's like, why am I buying tomato paste that's got anything but tomato?
	I don't want all this other junk.
	I can put junk in the food as I cook it.
	It's ridiculous.
	Wow.
	You can push the pet peeve.
	Yeah, that's what I thought.
	Well, John, speaking of artificially created, I know that, and we put this on the stream whenever there's a new episode once a week, the Dvorak Horowitz Unplugged, which is a show about, you know, you two guys basically talking about the stock market and how stuff is going.
	It's interesting, though, because, well, first of all, you totally become the crackpot on that show, which is, you know, you're ripping me off, but that's okay.
	I like it, kind of.
	It makes me feel proud.
	Yeah.
	You have no peers, sir.
	Well, listen, you're no Jack Kennedy either, okay?
	So, I think I've found out what you guys should have hit upon.
	And it makes so much sense now that I understand it.
	So the market has been going down.
	I mean, it's tanking, right?
	Seven days in a row or something, consistently down market, down market.
	We're almost at 10,000 now, which is a significant drop from just a few weeks ago.
	It's adjusting.
	Well, let me tell you what's going on.
	And it took me a while to figure it out.
	So what we see now is we have Timmy Geithner, who is essentially being, I still think, thrown under a bus.
	Like, screw this guy.
	We've got to get rid of him anyway.
	He's a weak pussy.
	Who, of course, is affiliated with the Federal Reserve through his work at the New York Federal Reserve and his hundreds of phone calls to Hank Paulson.
	Of course, Hank Paulson, all part of the Goldman Sachs cabal, which includes, what's his face, Bernanke.
	All these guys were all Goldman Sachs.
	So, the President announced his new banking reform, which is known as the Volcker Plan.
	Now, Paul Volcker was, and even Ron Paul kind of likes Paul Volcker, if you read his book, End the Fed.
	And that's, of course, why I'm like, oh, all right, so this guy might be better than we thought he was.
	He's not just another one of these asshole bankers.
	He was the head of the Federal Reserve before Greenspan, so that was the days of Carter, I'm going to say.
	Back in the 20s, it seems like.
	He's been around for a while.
	So he comes out with the Volcker Plan, which essentially could lead to Glass-Steagall being brought in.
	You'll recall that during this whole emergency bailout and the world was going to come falling down on our heads and there would be rioting in the streets, all of a sudden Goldman Sachs became a bank.
	Instead of just an investment firm so they could actually borrow money from the Federal Reserve.
	And these are really high concepts, but it's worth it trying to figure some of this stuff out because, hey, after all, it's our money and we're getting screwed with it.
	Volker is not a Goldman guy.
	He is, in fact, a JPMorgan Chase guy from way back in the day.
	He's always been affiliated with Chase Manhattan, which now, of course, is JPMorgan Chase.
	And I believe what is going on right now, and of course we are the victim in the middle if you have a 401k for sure, is that there is an all-out war going on between two fractions, JPMorgan Chase and the Goldman Group.
	Probably the ex-Lehman guys too.
	Yeah, well, Lehman guys are right on board, of course, because they got brought down.
	They were the first ones to get screwed by Goldman, i.e.
	Hank Paulson.
	And if you look at it, we literally have these two groups, and I think if you look at the markets, because we know that 70% of the market activity up until just recently, I guess, is created by this high-volume trading that Goldman Sachs is doing.
	Flash trading.
	Flash trading, yeah.
	Everyone's kind of like, well, they're doing it, whatever.
	Yeah, obviously, they have, I think...
	And I don't want to sound like the crackpot here, but I'll do it anyway.
	Please.
	I think that they have found some computer programmers.
	They're plugged right in to the system, so they get to buy and sell stuff on the fly on the computer.
	They've somehow deconstructed the way the trading models work in such a way that they can flash trade and move stocks in any direction they want.
	So if the market goes up, it's like turning a knob.
	Let's run the market out.
	They can't do it to an extreme, but they can do it just enough.
	That's why it goes up, up, up, up, up, day after day after day after day, and then they say, ah, turn it down.
	And they go down, down, down, down with this flash trading model that they have.
	I think there's something corrupt about it.
	That's why I think people have been killed.
	And people have stolen the code and all the rest of it.
	Yes, so here's what's happening.
	The J.P. Morgan guys don't have these programmers.
	It takes a while to get all this stuff together and make it all work.
	They're tired of this crap.
	They're tired of Goldman.
	They're tired of Lloyd Blankfein going, oh, we're doing God's work.
	And so now they've got Volcker in there, and they're like, you know what, we're going to screw these guys.
	They're going to start outlawing all of this stuff.
	There's going to be regulations against it.
	And, of course, the market is completely...
	It's completely manipulated.
	There's no real fundamental basis to it.
	That's why it's coming down right now.
	It's a war between the Goldmans and the Chases.
	And of course, the JPMorgan Chase have always been friends with the Rothschilds.
	Make no mistake, there's competition between banks.
	They may all go sit around the White House table, but there's real competition.
	They really hate each other.
	And if you're in the market, get out.
	Get out.
	Goldman had the naked shorts, front-running the market, Ponzi schemes, essentially, this flash trading.
	I'm telling you that there is an all-in-all-out war going on.
	And if you're in the market, you need to get out as soon as possible.
	And that's my story.
	Hey, I have a follow-up.
	I think it's a bear trap, personally, but go ahead.
	A what?
	A bear trap?
	No, no, no.
	No, I believe in these wars.
	Why is Volker in there all of a sudden?
	He's put in there because he's on...
	JPMorgan Chase are not small, okay?
	These guys are not small.
	They do all the debit cards for food stamps.
	These guys are pretty big, too.
	It's just that they don't have the flash trading stuff.
	You are not going to believe it when it comes to actual journalism in the two-to-the-head category.
	I don't think it's out yet, but the new Maxim magazine has in-depth reporting on Mike Connell.
	And this is a guy that we wondered what happened to the story.
	I think we were just talking about it the other day.
	This is the IT guru who ran the shadow email system for Bush, Karl Rove, and Cheney.
	And you recall that his single airplane, Piper Saratoga, by the way, the same model that JFK Jr.
	was flying, plunged from the sky unexpectedly on his way home.
	Yeah, it broke up in the sky.
	They know that much.
	Yeah.
	There had to be a bomb on board.
	Well, what's interesting is the NTSB has still not released an official report.
	It's all online.
	They always have all of the reports.
	You can see what happened.
	It's very important for pilots to be able to read this and learn from mistakes.
	So they've still not actually released that information.
	But his widow is livid.
	Is livid.
	Her name is Heather.
	And in this article, which is, I don't think it's out yet, Maxim Magazine, she says, quote, I have pieces of my husband's brain.
	Says, I picked them up with my hands six days after the crash.
	Chunks of his skin and internal organs.
	How can that be a proper investigation?
	How is that acceptable?
	She says his Blackberry, phone numbers, notes, files, contacts, all of it was gone, even though his backpack was found still zipped up with the matching Bluetooth earpiece inside.
	So she says, along with Mike's sister Shannon, convinced he was murdered.
	And I'm reading, I think it's the Brad blog is where I got this from.
	There's a couple of interesting little facts about this investigation.
	Hold on a second, where's...
	Can't find it.
	But essentially...
	Here it is.
	The night of the crash scene, which would normally be roped off and investigated in daylight, was lit by towers, photographed and documented by officials from the NTSB and the FAA. Ben Connell's plane was hastily removed to a secure hangar under the cover of darkness.
	By 6 a.m., the investigators had vanished, leaving behind a trail of debris and now, of course, one very angry widow.
	During his calls to the tower as he was on final approach, a Greentown Fire Department official is quoted as explaining he was told, quote, the tower was in lockdown at the time.
	No information was available.
	The guy was murdered.
	And this, of course, goes back to the 2004 rigged elections.
	And it looks like O'Connell was going to blow the whistle and had lots of information to back it up.
	Of course, the question now is, did he have some kind of shadow system or copy somewhere which would have a lot of this incriminating evidence?
	Yeah, you've got to be careful.
	You've got to be real careful.
	No kidding.
	If you've got incriminating evidence, you better have some way of making sure that if something happens, it gets out.
	Generally speaking, you've run into a situation where they're going to kill this poor guy, and they end up holding the information that he had, or maybe it was on the Blackberry or whatever.
	I don't know.
	Well, that's why I have a dead man switch.
	You don't have one?
	I don't talk about anything like that.
	Oh, I have one.
	The problem with me is I don't have anything of value in terms of information.
	Oh, no, I've got all the goods.
	Essentially, I'm just making suppositions.
	I'm on the show with you.
	I do the same research.
	I find the same data that anyone else can find if they actually spend the time on Google.
	But I haven't got the goods on anybody.
	If I was a guy like Mike Connell, what I would have done is I'd have a dead man switch, which essentially is a server somewhere that's waiting for a ping every month.
	And if it doesn't get an email from me, or if I don't Twitter a certain word or something like that, it will then automatically fire off a huge zip file filled with all my documents to a number of predetermined email addresses.
	That's what I'd do.
	I'd spam it.
	I'd just send it to everyone.
	I came across an interesting article, and it caught my eye because I've been to this place Known as the Von Helding Estate.
	Have you ever heard of this, John?
	No.
	The Von Helding Estate is, and I think it was an AIDS Project Los Angeles benefit.
	It's this guy named Ronald Eade, E-A-D-E. And he called himself, I don't know if he called himself that or what the deal was, but Baron Von Helding.
	Essentially, he was one of these Hollywood movers and shakers, and he'd always use his Von Helding estate for charities.
	It's one of these typical, beautiful, Hollywood-type places.
	Well, he suicided himself the other day after FBI officials...
	Either they caught him or they...
	No, I guess what they tried to do is they...
	He had tried to sell a picture of an underage teenage...
	A 15-year-old boy.
	No, wait a minute.
	He allegedly had offered a 15-year-old boy money if he posed nude in pictures.
	And then the FBI broke down his gate to the Von Helding estate.
	When you see the picture in the show notes at noagendashow.com, it's like this thing was rammed.
	By something big.
	Why don't they just wait for him to walk outside?
	Well, it gets worse because then they tear gas the place.
	They tear gas the place.
	Why don't they just wait for him to go to the store?
	Does this make any sense to anybody?
	This is why I'm mentioning it.
	And then after it's tear gas, they go in and, oh, he shot himself in the head.
	Twice, by the way.
	He shot himself twice in the head?
	No, he shot himself.
	It doesn't say twice.
	I'm just making that up.
	But there's something really weird.
	They do have these twice in the head, guys.
	Yeah, but it's weird.
	This is just weird.
	Something sounds fishy.
	I'm telling you, this shit going on in Hollywood, they tried to railroad Michael Jackson with this child pornography crap.
	They're always doing this to people.
	So I think this guy had some information or some goods on somebody.
	Something was going on, there was a reason for it, but the SWAT team was involved.
	The SWAT team?
	Yes.
	Wait, let me get this straight.
	The guy supposedly or allegedly offered some kid...
	I've got the story.
	I've got the story.
	On December 23rd...
	I'll read the news report.
	The boy was at Ede's home when he allegedly was shown photos of other teens.
	Ede also reportedly took four shots of the 15-year-old with his shirt off.
	The FBI monitored two phone calls, coincidentally...
	Between the teen and Eid on January 14th, where he allegedly asked the boy to pose nude for private photos.
	Eid described a photograph series that he sold to Gloria, some client of his, I guess, which depicted a different minor teenage boy posing as a cowboy and a bucking bronco type of guy.
	So, um, Eid ran inside the house when agents showed up with an arrest warrant about 2 p.m.
	on Thursday.
	The agents heard a gunshot, they say.
	But they broke down the gate!
	The FBI SWAT team and deputies entered the home at 7.45.
	They had, like, a five-hour standoff?
	And found Eid with an apparent self-inflicted gunshot wound to the head.
	No prior convictions.
	The guy was involved in all kinds of AIDS charities, HIV prevention programs.
	He was a little kooky, but call himself Baron Von Helding.
	Which of course was kind of a joke.
	But this place was used for movie shoots, parties, weddings, fundraisers, and now the guy shoots himself over some picture.
	And the gate's broken down.
	This is like a four-section gate.
	This is not like a little rickety white picket fence.
	Yeah, it sounds like they had to get to him real fast for some reason.
	He must have had something on somebody.
	I mean, otherwise, it doesn't make any sense.
	You wouldn't do that.
	You would just wait.
	Well, this is interesting.
	Why don't they find a helicopter and drop somebody off?
	Why don't they wreck the place?
	This is why I don't like it.
	FBI's Eads roommate, Damian Dmitry Kofke.
	Hmm.
	Hmm.
	Russian.
	Maybe there was some spy stuff involved.
	I'll investigate.
	I just thought that was...
	Because I've been there.
	I'm like, wow.
	That's kind of weird.
	Yeah, the story's fishy.
	Yeah, to say the least.
	That's depressing.
	That's a good way to end the show.
	No, we don't have to end the show just yet.
	I wanted to give you a little follow-up on the Vancouver false flag reports that we're following.
	Oh, yeah.
	Vancouver, if anybody hasn't been listening to the show, and they should be listening to every show we do, we suspect there's going to be a false flag...
	Well, we've kind of glommed onto this.
	A couple of our producers have been releasing information consistently.
	And so it starts off kind of with this ammonium nitrate gone missing.
	Now, the amount of ammonium nitrate is a little sketchy.
	I think it's actually 2,000 pounds that was missing.
	And out comes a report.
	That would be a ton.
	That would be a ton, right.
	Not 6,000 tons.
	But a ton, I think, you could still do some damage, don't you think?
	Yeah.
	I would hope so.
	Yeah.
	So we start reporting on this stuff, passing it along essentially, reading...
	And the Vancouver Sun says, oh, don't worry about it.
	They talk about two tons of powerl explosive ammonium nitrate that were missing Wednesday afternoon have now been found.
	Well, everything's over then.
	It was a clerical error, said the sergeant.
	Oh, no, we just miscounted something.
	So this was on the 6th.
	Which is actually after we even...
	So someone sent me this and said, oh, no, no, this is wrong.
	They found it.
	But then I go to Canada.com and on January 7th, the company determined the discrepancy was the result of a clerical error.
	Mounties have been investigating the company's assessment since then, but still have been unable to confirm the accounting discrepancy.
	So this stuff is still gone.
	It's still missing.
	So the Mounties are still on the case.
	And if you look at all the companies, all the people who were involved with the security around Vancouver, and the knowledge that the agreement now between Canada and the United States is if there is a terror attack, U.S. troops will come marching across the border to take control.
	You know that that's...
	That doesn't sound right.
	Canadians have their own forces.
	Yeah, but they've shut down the government.
	Remember, we've got that part.
	Conveniently.
	Now, I think you were doing some research on some of the officials involved here, that they have kind of a sketchy background.
	Yeah, I'm looking for the name of the guy.
	The guy who was in charge of the drill, and it was a consultancy, by the way, the drill that was taking place in the United Kingdom, in London, the day of the terror attacks on 7-7.
	Let's see if I can find this.
	I'm going to find his name and put it in the show notes.
	That guy is responsible for some of the security up there right now.
	It's like, it can't get any kookier.
	So I'm on this thing, right?
	And I'm looking at all of these.
	And maybe this is a red herring.
	It would make so much sense because, I mean, there's so many clues.
	Someone's got to be laughing at us.
	It's either that or they're just so blatantly arrogant they don't care anymore.
	It's like, we're just going to do whatever we want to do.
	Probably the latter, because nobody seems to pay much attention.
	Well, I'm trying to fire up a YouTube video here.
	Here we go.
	So the movie 2012...
	Let me just start it.
	The movie 2012...
	You know, there's all kinds of horrible things going wrong in the world.
	And listen to their reference of British Columbia in this movie about a terror attack.
	What?
	So right now there's an earthquake.
	It's expected to be well over 2 billion people.
	The devastation in Rio de Janeiro is beyond imagination.
	That's the earthquake in Rio de Janeiro.
	I haven't seen the movie, so I'm just taking this at face value.
	Now listen to the dialogue in a second as these two officials get into it.
	So they're still showing...
	There you go.
	...spread throughout the globe.
	As in London, where the 30th...
	So the world is coming down.
	The Olympic Games, this is the 2012 Olympic Games.
	There's riots on the streets.
	We're receiving reports from all across the globe.
	Millions upon millions of distraught masses are gathering in public places everywhere, converging in desperate prayer.
	Preachers of many religious denominations have taken their message of the end of the world to the streets all over the U.S. Here it comes.
	I don't think you could hear that very well.
	Could you hear it?
	I said there was something about British Columbia 2010.
	2010, right.
	Yeah, that was a crappy clip.
	Yeah, I didn't know it would sound so bad.
	But, you know, this is all these clues everywhere as to what's going to happen.
	We've got the missing ammonium nitrate.
	We've got the same company.
	I think it's Veritim.
	The same company who did the security cameras in the London buses and tubes which conveniently did not work and we don't have any videotape of any of these terrorists who did the 7-7 bombings.
	They're the ones supplying all the cameras for Vancouver.
	And the craziest thing is there's no snow.
	Yeah, I love this no snow thing.
	They've got a truck in the snow.
	Yeah.
	They make a big stink about, oh, we're going to...
	It's always...
	It's never not snowed in January, they say.
	We've got sub-zero temperatures throughout the entire world, record-breaking lows, and they've got no snow where they're going to hold the Olympics.
	What's up with that?
	Is that another joke?
	It's a cosmic joke, if anything.
	Or somebody...
	They put the wrong...
	They turned the wrong knob on the weather machine.
	Ah...
	Whatever the case, it's pretty funny that there's no snow up there.
	Let me see.
	So there's a commercial floating around.
	You want to change the topic?
	Can we change the topic?
	Yeah, I had a couple other things.
	Sure, go ahead.
	We'll bring it up after I'm done with this observation.
	I was going to make a clip of this, but I realize it's not that great of it.
	It's mostly visual.
	But I always think it's interesting how people, you know, you always talk about these guys who make the biggest stink about pedophilia and flat-chested women.
	They're the ones who are the weirdos.
	They are the weirdos.
	Guarantee.
	And it's like people project flat.
	Well, I think Chase Bank is one of these people about honesty.
	And there's a commercial, and everyone has probably listened to their show, if they watch enough television, they've seen this commercial at least once.
	A guy and a girl are in an expensive restaurant looking at a menu.
	And, oh, there's going to be a great experience, and this girl is raving about the food on the menu.
	He looks down at the bottom of the menu, and it says, cash only.
	Oh, right.
	She's holding the menu up.
	He freaks out and runs out of the restaurant down the street to a chase ATM machine and grabs some cash and then rushes back in and then sits down.
	She lowers her menu and says, what's wrong?
	You know, nothing.
	Now, in real life...
	If you were at a restaurant, and I've actually had this happen, and you find it's cash only and you see an ATM machine across the street, what you do is you say, oh, I see it's cash only.
	Can you hold on a second?
	I'm going to walk across the street and get some cash out of the ATM machine.
	Yeah, exactly.
	You don't run off and you don't skulk off like you're afraid to admit to anything.
	This, to me, is...
	Whoever approved this, which is bank management...
	Tells me that the bank is basically crooked or dishonest.
	Because this is a dishonest maneuver that they're actually showing as some sort of entertainment, but I see it as pure projection of the mentality of the bank itself.
	I find it abhorrent.
	Yeah, that's a good point.
	And I see more of this weird behavior, which I think is corporate culture.
	For instance, the new Burger King campaign.
	Now, can you imagine a meeting with an advertising agency where they sit down with a client, in this case Burger King, and say, okay, I've got this great idea.
	We've got these new Whoppers we've got to sell, right?
	So why don't we dress grown men up as babies and And have them do all kinds of kooky baby stuff, like milk spilling out of their bottle and throwing dirt on top of their head, dressed as a baby, grown men dressed as a baby in diapers.
	That is a sexual sick fetish.
	And have you seen the commercials?
	No, I have not seen this one.
	They're on all the time.
	It's like a whole series of them.
	And I don't even know what the payoff is, but I keep looking at this grown man dressed as a baby with a bottle of formula and he tips it upside down.
	The top comes off and all the formula splashes on his head.
	And another one he's sitting in the playground.
	Yeah, this is Burger King?
	Burger King!
	And then they cut to a fucking Whopper.
	And I'm like, what?
	I mean, how did anyone sell this?
	And you know, it's a sexual fetish.
	And there's something creepy about it.
	It's creepy.
	Yeah, the Burger King commercials have largely been creepy with that crazy-looking character.
	Yeah, you should see this one.
	There's a bunch of them where he's a voyeur.
	No, I haven't seen that one, but this is the new series.
	This was a couple years ago, that Burger King guy, that weird-looking guy.
	Oh, yeah, the king?
	There'd be somebody in their kitchen, and then he'd be peering in.
	It's creepy.
	It's creepy.
	Something's wrong with them.
	Alright, just a couple things on Haiti real quick.
	Because now, of course, the articles are coming out left and right.
	It's not like we didn't tell you.
	And you know what?
	Earthquake machine or not, it doesn't matter.
	They were ready to pounce on this poor place.
	I quote...
	Behind the smoke, rubble, and an unending drama of human tragedy in the hapless Caribbean country, a drama is in full play for control of what geophysicists believe may be one of the world's richest zones for hydrocarbons, oil, and gas outside the Middle East, possibly orders of magnitude greater than that of nearby Venezuela.
	Didn't we call this on the day of the quake, pretty much?
	Yeah.
	They have been researching this for years, John.
	They were ready for this.
	They were ready for it.
	They were just waiting.
	And of course, everything was there.
	Conveniently, the second in charge of Southern Command was there in Haiti.
	They've been waiting for this.
	Now we have 20,000 Marines there.
	No one cares about the people.
	This is all about how do we grab the land?
	How do we put our stake in there?
	They already tried this in 2005 when they shipped Aristide out.
	Notably in 2005, a year after the Bush-Cheney administration de facto deposed the democratically elected president of Haiti, Jean-Baptiste Aristide, a team of geologists from the Institute for Geophysics at the University of Texas began an ambitious and thorough two-phase mapping of all geological data of the Caribbean basins.
	The project, due to be completed in 2011, directed by Dr.
	Paul Mann, is called The Caribbean Basins, Tectonics and Hydrocarbons, all about determining as precisely as possible the relation between tectonic plates in the Caribbean and the potential for hydrocarbons, oil, and gas.
	They turned this machine on and blew it all open.
	And who is in there now?
	The multi-million dollar research, of course, which was funded by Chevron, ExxonMobil, the Anglo-Dutch Shell, and BHP Billiton.
	They were ready for this.
	Now, what do we do about the people of poor Haiti?
	Well, here's a fantastic idea.
	Let's send some of those formaldehyde trailers their way from Katrina, from AP. The trailer industry and lawmakers are pressing the government to send Haiti thousands of potentially formaldehyde-laced trailers left over from Hurricane Katrina.
	Ah!
	That's a beauty.
	Well, wait!
	There's more.
	In a January 15th letter to FEMA... Representative Benny Thompson, Democrat from Mississippi, Chairman of the House Committee on Homeland Security, said the trailers could be used as temporary shelter or emergency clinics.
	Quote, While I continue to believe that these units should not be used for human habitation, I do believe they could be used of some benefit on a short-term limited basis if the appropriate safeguards are provided.
	Go ahead, send them the formaldehyde trailers.
	This is crazy!
	It's crazy!
	That's a good pick-up.
	I never knew that was going on.
	Yeah, this is from...
	I mean, the oil doesn't surprise me in the least, obviously, but this other scam, what do we do with these damn trailers?
	I don't know.
	Hey, I got an idea!
	They got like 100,000 of them.
	And of course, people were...
	They're all contaminated.
	Yeah, people were dying.
	And this, of course, is the U.S. Agency for International Development, USAID. Yeah, USAID. That's the economic hitman, one of the armies of the economic hitman group.
	Yeah.
	So just send that shit over to him.
	That's fine.
	If you want to read the actual news reports in the show notes at noagendashow.com.
	And I think I have a couple of crotch bomber things just to...
	We'll get into that the next time.
	Now we're getting a lot of reports that it's Mossad somehow, that Indian guy at the airport, they were doing some sort of surveillance deal and the whole thing was a scam.
	Yeah, well, there was a lot of videotaping going on continuously from the minute that guy was helping him get on the plane to inside the plane.
	Of course, we've never seen said videotape anywhere.
	No, but we do have reports that it was actually taking place.
	A couple of people said that.
	We had one clip on the show immediately about some woman.
	Yeah, but we've never seen it.
	But we've never seen the videotape.
	No, of course not.
	It's something you think would be interesting.
	It's like a training tape for some intelligence organization.
	The Wall Street Journal reports the Pentagon is assigning more special forces personnel to Yemen as part of a broad push to speed the training of the country's counter-terror forces.
	Essentially, the CIA is just sending more.
	I mean, please!
	And then my favorite, and this is from the LA Times.
	So the CIA has now put Anwar al-Awlaki, who is the, I guess he's the cleric that the Fort Hood so-called shooter was corresponding with.
	Right.
	So he's an American citizen, by the way.
	They've now put him on the hit list.
	So he can be killed by a drone.
	Yeah.
	It's no joke.
	He's an American citizen?
	I didn't know that we were killing our own people.
	Yep.
	No, there's a whole process.
	No U.S. citizen has ever been on the CIA's target list, which mainly names al-Qaeda leaders, including Osama bin Laden, according to current or former U.S. officials.
	But that is expected to change as CIA analysts compile a case against the Muslim cleric who was born in New Mexico but now resides in Yemen.
	And the way they do this, we find this because it was a great line.
	You know, they don't take this lightly.
	They actually have lawyers look at it before they decide to kill somebody.
	Yeah, they have to vet the killing.
	They put lawyers on it just to make sure that it's okay.
	It's nuts.
	It's totally nuts.
	You can just kill whoever you want.
	I don't know.
	It's crazy.
	The world's crazy.
	It's a good thing that we have this show, by the way.
	I wanted to remind everybody.
	So, contribute.
	Please.
	And I just wanted to mention there is a BlackBerry app for the show, and that will be listed in the Links That Rock section of the show notes at NoAgendaShow.com.
	So now we have the trifecta, John.
	We have the iPhone, multiple apps for that.
	We have the Android, multiple apps, and now we have a BlackBerry app.
	By the way, I'd like to point out that the Pocket No Agenda was listed on What's Hot in the iTunes App Store.
	Cool.
	This past week, which means there should be a lot of sales.
	I must say that I have not seen anything come in in donations from the developer of said application, as far as I know.
	I think his name is Adam, Adam Burke.
	I don't know, I'll have to look in the list.
	Because I will say, when people say, hey, I'm going to give you a portion of the proceeds and we promote it, we do kind of expect you to follow through.
	So I'm not pointing fingers yet, but I am keeping my eye on it.
	Yeah, at some point we have to do our own.
	So, the Zune, what about the Zune?
	I don't think they have apps.
	I think they just take RSS feeds.
	Oh, okay.
	Hey, John, way to go on the tech tip, my friend.
	You know all about this stuff, don't you?
	Yeah, you're just awesome.
	You're going to have a Zune phone soon.
	Yeah, running Windows Mobile 29.
	I'm sure.
	Oh, shoot.
	I forgot to play the Miley Cyrus clip.
	What's a Miley Cyrus clip?
	Well, it was her...
	What?
	Why don't we just run it on the next show?
	You can tease it.
	No, because everyone will have seen it by then.
	Well, then stop the music and play the clip.
	Or play the clip at the end of our sign-off.
	Okay, yeah, you're right.
	Let me get back to the...
	Okay, yeah.
	It was Miley Cyrus on the Today Show.
	You know, I really want to hear your reaction to it, though.
	I want to play it now.
	Stop the music and play the clip.
	I just want you to hear it.
	This is one of these singing sensations.
	It's just so worth it.
	You have to hear how she sings live.
	And this went out on the air on the Today Show.
	I think she was doing...
	I don't know what track she was doing.
	Here it comes.
	So she's getting the announcement.
	This is outside the GE building in New York City where they do their live show.
	All right, you really got to hear this.
	If nothing, it'll lift our spirits after all that crap news.
	I'm always a complain at LAX with a dream of my cardigan.
	Welcome to the land of fame, except for it.
	Am I gonna fit in?
	I jumped in the camp, here I am for the first time.
	Look to my right, and I see the Hollywood sign.
	This is all so crazy.
	Everybody seems so famous.
	My tummy's turning, and I'm feeling kinda home sick.
	Too much pressure, and I'm nervous.
	What?
	What is this?
	Listen.
	And there's kids in the audience going like, what?
	Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	It's a party in the USA.
	It's me looking out in my taxi cab.
	Everybody's looking at me now.
	So I just...
	Her career's done, unless that's an imposter.
	No, no, no.
	It's really her.
	She's on stage with all her dancers and everything.
	If you have kids who like Miley Cyrus, show this to them so they understand that it's all fake.
	It's fake, okay?
	These kids can't sing.
	They suck.
	This is like one of the worst jokers they put on that American Idol show just to make fun of them.
	I'm telling you.
	And in fact, the pants on the ground guy is more real than this.
	This is an outrage.
	An outrage.
	It's an outrage!
	Alright.
	Okay, jeez.
	Okay, so, um...
	I bet you she gets more donations than we do.
	Oh, this is the sick, twisted nature of it.
	Well, we've brought you quite a lot of information today, that's for sure.
	Too much.
	Yeah.
	And if we had another day in the week, we could actually spread it out and go in-depth into some of this stuff.
	We just gloss over, like, false flag attacks, people being shot, gates of houses being rammed down with tanks.
	It's...
	We didn't even get to the climate gate.
	No.
	Well, let's give some people something to look forward to.
	Right.
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