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	Who's side are these people on?
	Adam Curry.
	John C. Dvorak.
	It's November 11th, 2009.
	Time for your Gitmo Nation media assassination episode 147.
	This is no agenda.
	With the knowledge that it's always in the morning somewhere and coming to you from the very heart of Gitmo Nation.
	Home to the supreme leader.
	From Chicago, I'm Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley, where night has fallen, even though it's in the morning someplace, I'm John C. Dvorak.
	And Happy Poppy Day to you, John.
	Well, they have this thing going on in Canada, too.
	It is, first of all, Happy Veterans Day.
	You know I come from a long line of people who have served in the military and other forms of government service.
	So, Happy Veterans Day to y'all.
	Appreciate your service.
	So why were the Mevio offices open, then?
	Is it a day when...
	Well, it's not a government building yet.
	It's a government holiday.
	The postal guy wasn't working.
	The banks were closed.
	I had to go to the bank today.
	Click, click, click.
	The bank was closed.
	You're such a bonehead.
	Hey, by the way, talking about that, so I'm watching the C-SPAN like we do for our producers.
	For our entire audience, yes.
	And I'm watching C-SPAN, and they're discussing, you know, the something or other, and it wasn't interesting, but they said, for good reason, they said...
	Of course, the C-SPAN. This is like on Tuesday of this week.
	He said the Senate and the House of Representatives will be taking the rest of the day off at noon on Tuesday to celebrate tomorrow's holiday and they'll be off for the whole week.
	You're shitting me.
	No.
	They took the whole week off.
	Basically they worked Monday and a half day Tuesday and then they're off.
	That's an outrage.
	So what are they running on C-SPAN now?
	Repeats?
	No, they're running, you know, not repeats, but, you know, really vague committee meetings.
	There was one I was watching.
	I was saying, what am I watching this for?
	It was about the cemetery at Arlington and how they're going to finance it.
	It's just terrible.
	So it was pretty interesting that one of our producers pointed out that Veterans Day falls on Poppy Day.
	And, of course, it hit me like a laser beam to the forehead.
	Like, oh, of course, Poppy Day.
	This is the way they celebrate Veterans Day in the United Kingdom.
	In fact...
	It is such a national scale that you can even buy...
	They have these paper poppies.
	And everybody wears them.
	Kids, old people, young people.
	And they don't even know why, obviously.
	They're just like, hey, give me one of them poppies.
	But how ironic...
	The irony is just outrageous that we are celebrating Poppy Day, the actual plant that we are guarding in Afghanistan for the harvest, which is any day now once we get our 48,000 troops and can ship it all back stateside and get everybody high!
	How ironic.
	Yeah, it's one of those little gags they like to play.
	That's exactly what it is.
	They also have these poppies for sale up in Canada.
	I was just in Edmonton.
	And the poppies are just like for the Royal Mounted Police Fund or something.
	But they sell them everywhere.
	There's like a dollar and you stick one on them.
	How come they didn't do that in the States?
	They thought it would be really too blatant if they did that in the States?
	Like, come on, man.
	We can't do that.
	They used to have something like that, but I can't...
	When I was a kid, I remember there used to be something like that, but they...
	I just disappeared one day, and I don't remember when or how or much about it anymore.
	It's just...
	But they used to have something similar.
	By the way, we should introduce today's executive producers.
	Yes, who is our...
	Oh, yeah, that's right.
	We have more than one, correct?
	We have co-executive producers because of the amount they gave.
	Nice.
	What do we got?
	Okay, but the first one is William Arcand from Dracut, Massachusetts.
	And he actually gave us two donations, which totaled $311.10.
	Holy crap.
	Thanks, David.
	William.
	Yeah.
	Didn't I say William?
	You said David, I think.
	Oh, brother.
	Yeah.
	William, I'm sorry.
	I'm just taking two to the head myself.
	So William is one of the executive producers, and he will be mentioned, and he can use it on his resume.
	And the other one is Nelson Kunkel from Edwards, Colorado, who gave us $250.
	and I felt that they should be co-executive producers, and that's where they're going to show up as two names on the website.
	And, again, like they can put it on their resume, they financed today's show.
	Financed in its entirety pretty much, and we highly appreciate it.
	John, would you please put those two names on the Skype for me so I can put them in the show notes at noagendashow.com?
	Yeah.
	Because, of course, you have to put it on your resume.
	You don't have to, but I think it would behoove you to put this.
	It would be cool.
	Yeah, you put it on your resume.
	Hey, I produced or in...
	What's the second donor's name?
	I'm spacing today.
	Man, Nelson Kunkel.
	Nelson, right.
	So William can put on his CV, I was producer of No Agenda, episode 147.
	And of course, then there's co-producer credit, which is as good as producer credit.
	And it looks good on the resume.
	In fact, I think co-producer credit looks even maybe a little bit cooler.
	Because it means you don't have to do all the work, you just put the money in.
	Neither one of them did that much work.
	He said, well, you have to go to the site.
	I got some woman in Russia who can't get on my Dvork.org slash NA, so I'm going to have to put the link someplace else.
	We got a donation, believe it or not, we'll talk about it later, from Russia.
	But this woman is also from Russia, but she's from a different part of Russia where they obviously have my web address blocked.
	And this is happening all over the world, by the way.
	The internet is hardly what it was supposed to be.
	Yeah.
	Of course.
	Oh, yeah.
	It's happening.
	It's a scam.
	Before we get into it, two things I wanted to mention.
	One is some feedback from one of our producers.
	Hey there, Adam.
	Just wanted to drop you a line or two.
	First of all, I love the show.
	I love what you're doing.
	I try telling my friends and family about some of the stuff you discuss, and they look at me like I'm crazy.
	Yeah.
	The Lisbon Treaty, for example.
	Swine flu, another example.
	I'm even writing a paper in one of my classes based around our shared views of the swine flu conspiracy.
	However, I'm a starving college student, my only sustenance being rice cakes and peanut butter and the shitty food they provide for us at the cafeteria, which actually has laxatives in it.
	Mouth-watering, isn't it?
	I guess that's for another show.
	I would love to donate, just don't have the means.
	I'm sorry.
	I hope this email's encouragement will help you morally.
	Keep up the good work and I'm sure to donate as soon as I have the funds.
	Another thing, about a week ago I heard John say his son was in favor of the RFID chip implants and that, quote, everyone our age is.
	Hell no!
	I will never get one nor allow any of my family members to get one.
	It's the most perverted and egregious breach of civil liberties conceivable.
	The day the government makes implanted chips mandatory is the day I move into the woods of Washington State in a secluded cabin, Ted Kaczynski style, minus all the bombings and stuff.
	So I just wanted Teddy Edwards to get a shout-out there, John, and just so you know that they're not all like your communist son.
	Well, there you have it.
	Who is doing a fine job at Mevio, by the way.
	Yeah, he seems to be into the, you know, the...
	My son's an intern there, just for people who want a little background.
	He said, can you get me an internship?
	And I said, probably.
	And at first thought, I'm thinking, you know, wow.
	And we pay our interns, by the way.
	Yeah, and they pay well for interns, for sure.
	And they usually end up hiring, which I think is even more interesting.
	Oh, yeah.
	Yeah.
	But anyway, so I first immediately walked him over to the production side of things, saying, well, you know, he probably wants to learn how to use the TriCaster, and he wants to produce shows, and he wants to do this and that.
	And it was like, and I was talking to Nick about, well, I didn't probably get him a spot.
	Then it dawned on me.
	I said, what is he, why do I want to put a kid in some, no offense to you technicians out there, what really amounts to a dead-end job.
	A dead-end job.
	A no future.
	Yeah.
	And no future.
	And this kid went to college, right?
	Didn't he graduate summa cum laude something or other?
	Yeah, he graduated summa cum something.
	But anyway, so...
	Sooner cum now.
	So I said, I thought, I said, wait a minute, what about Moody?
	Because the real future for...
	And this is a recommendation for people out there who want to think about what they want to do in the future.
	SEO. You know, Software Engine Optimization.
	Once that's on your bio, you can get a job in.
	Search engine optimization.
	Yeah, search engine optimization.
	That's the gig you want right now.
	That's the big one.
	Yeah, and it's like a black art.
	Everybody does it differently, and it's much in demand, and only a few people are doing it.
	It's not hard.
	It's not hard.
	If you know how a search engine works and you keep up with some of the forums, you can figure it out.
	It's not hard at all.
	No, it's not hard, but it's a moving target.
	Well, yeah.
	That's what's beautiful about it.
	It's kind of an art.
	And what value do you put on art?
	It's what a crazy person will pay for it.
	Anyway, so when I thought, I said, what am I thinking?
	Stop!
	No, no, no.
	You could be a gaffer.
	Best boy.
	Hey, we should have a best boy on our show.
	We need a best boy.
	Yeah, we need a best boy.
	And we need a gaffer, too.
	I need a gaffer, and I need a fluffer.
	Well, you need a fluffer.
	Yes, for sure.
	One other interesting piece of feedback from Rick DeHart, I'm sure, Deckard, I'm sorry, Rick Deckard from, I'm sure, the Netherlands.
	And he caught up on, I think it was actually last week, we've talked about this before, how your brain cannot process the word not.
	It can't process a negative.
	So instead of saying, don't forget to buy the milk, you will, of course, forget it because your brain processes forget to buy the milk.
	So you need to say, remember to buy the milk.
	And he said, wow, that's really interesting when you look at the Ten Commandments.
	Thou shalt not murder.
	Thou shalt not commit adultery.
	That's funny.
	No one's ever mentioned that before.
	Thou shalt not steal.
	I mean, it's like awesome.
	This is like the code to make us do all this nasty shit.
	And like they say, only sinners go to church.
	But I be...
	I wish I had that.
	So talking about sinners, I want to just bring up something, just a subtopic, because just before we started the show, I was forcing myself to watch Hannity.
	Why do you do that?
	I mean, C-SPAN is rough enough.
	Well, because every week we talk about this, about the two different, the lefties and the righties, they have their little issue that they have that week to keep people distracted.
	And this week, the lefties...
	Is it still the Fort Hood massacre?
	Yeah, yeah.
	But now the righties have got the Fort Hood thing, but it's like all the signs that he was a Muslim crazy man.
	Dude, this is exactly what we predicted.
	The president started it with his soft, like, ooh, defending the country, blah, blah, and now it's all this Muslim shit, and it's going to be right in time for the Patriot Act to be signed again when they get back from vacation.
	Well, I got a couple of clips that kind of show you the way on some of this stuff.
	But anyway, the lefties are all concerned about the blue dog Democrats and how they didn't vote for health care as if it didn't pass.
	And they're kind of all upset about that.
	So it's interesting to watch these two sides.
	But...
	But the thing that caught my attention was Hannity's going on and kind of dismissing as crazy and stupid and all these other things regarding the AMA who came out saying that, hey, this marijuana stuff, maybe we should rethink it.
	Maybe it is something that could be good in a medicinal setting and blah, blah, blah.
	And just as soon as I saw that, I'm thinking to myself, wait a minute.
	Again, are these supposed to be conservatives that want government out of your life and want personal responsibility, but are really for all these drug laws?
	I mean, I'm not quite...
	Getting the connection between saying that you want personal responsibility and saying you want government out of our lives, but acting as though there is no personal responsibility, thus we need all these drug laws, and B, we want the government to have the DEA and all the rest of it and the war on drugs and all this other stuff.
	What am I missing here?
	Because it's all the same people running it.
	We call them Democrats.
	They're running all parts of the media.
	It's just a big game.
	It's just to keep you occupied.
	In fact, you fell into the trap.
	You're like, must watch Hannity, me too, switch to Fox.
	It's 250 on the Dish Network.
	No, 205, I think.
	What is it?
	250.
	I mean, it's horrible.
	I know the number.
	Must watch Hannity.
	Well, I work from 215, or 211 is what I work from.
	I always hit 211, and that takes me to C-SPAN. C-SPAN. And then you have 212.
	And then I can scroll down, and I start going through all the crazy stuff.
	I know exactly what you're talking about.
	We are so pathetic.
	However, pathetic or not, we do have a formula.
	Our formula is this.
	We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
	And I gotta say, John, it's a formula that is effective.
	And I feel like hitting a few people in the mouth today.
	Well, you're in Chicago.
	Well, that must bring out the worst in me.
	How is Chicago, by the way?
	I haven't been there for a year.
	As we say, it's colder than a witch's tit.
	Is it cold?
	Oh, it was freezing when I arrived.
	Actual ice on the cars.
	Yeah, it's very cold.
	Very, very cold.
	But there's business to be done that warms my heart, Johnny Boy.
	So, did you go out to dinner, have some good times?
	There's a lot of good restaurants.
	Chicago has actually become very much of a mecca for foodies.
	Let me think.
	Well, last night, no.
	I basically had...
	I bought five extra inches on my United flight.
	I'm sorry?
	Yeah, it's actually billed as get about an extra five extra inches for $49.
	Oh, that's that stupid couple rows they have with an extra five inches.
	It's well worth it, I tell you.
	It is well worth it, the extra five inches.
	So I had the classic box.
	It's like, could you poison me anymore?
	I mean, I'm already in...
	It's just a bunch of starches and salt.
	It's not even...
	It can't even be qualified as food.
	It's a box with, like, chemicals.
	And, you know, I'm like, might as well have a ginger ale with it.
	Well, there's nothing else.
	There's nothing else to eat.
	You have tomato juice.
	That tends to fill you up and you can get to the flight.
	Yeah, but I got into the hotel at 1.30.
	I'm going to wait for room service until 2.
	Stop at the bar.
	The bars are open until 2.
	So I'm at the Bleep Hotel.
	That's one of these boutique hotels.
	It's a cool hotel, by the way.
	Yeah, well, thanks for telling us what it is.
	The Saks Hotel.
	I've never heard of it.
	Which is right next to the House of Blues.
	And so it's an old building that they redid.
	It's now a boutique hotel.
	And so you walk in at 1.30 in the morning and the lounge, the bar is open.
	And so you're checking in.
	It's like...
	There's no one in the bar.
	But there's a DJ... And there's a DJ playing.
	There's no one there.
	Not a single, solitary soul.
	If there were some chicks, I would have gone in.
	There was nothing.
	So I had breakfast.
	Yeah, well, those things are passe.
	And I had macadamia nuts when I got back.
	I haven't even had dinner yet.
	And here it is.
	It's 9.04 in Chicago.
	Doing the show.
	Doing it early.
	The way we like to roll.
	Yeah.
	We don't like to go late.
	Yeah, getting it done, but if we have to do it at a different time, we prefer to do it early.
	That way, people who are expecting the stream...
	In the morning!
	They can at least listen to the show in the morning, even though it's not live.
	Yeah, well, the show is also in the morning somewhere.
	So, let's go to some clips since we're kind of stalling here on I Don't Know What.
	I just wanted to talk some shit.
	I mean, I've got plenty of...
	Let's not forget...
	Let's remember to talk about V. But we can do that after your clips.
	Oh, V. We can do that after your clips.
	That's right.
	I made you a dub of V. So you could watch it.
	By the way, when you make me a dub, would you mind just burning it as a real DVD and not like an AVI on a DVD disc?
	My son did it.
	Oh.
	Well, that sucked.
	And we tried doing it the other way.
	We tried burning it as a DVD. Yeah.
	Because we had the AVI, and it turned out that it wasn't working right on a Mac or something.
	He's a Mac user.
	He's a Mac.
	Well, so Mickey and I wound up sitting on the couch with a chair in front of the couch with the laptop, you know, like, leaning over, watching the whole show.
	It's not very cool, especially when you have a huge flat screen with surround sound.
	Oh, you know, it played on my DVD fine.
	This is the setup that you recommended I buy, so...
	I didn't have anything to do with what DVD you purchased.
	Yes, you do, because it was built into the sound bar that you thought was cool.
	Oh, well, that was a blunder then.
	I have a DVD writer on my TV set, and I recommend that to everybody.
	DVD writer?
	Because the thing is that often you want a clip or you want something, you want to record a show or your DVR is filled, or you want to make something for a friend and say, hey, did you see the show?
	And a DVD writer is great.
	And the DVD writer also seems to like a lot more formats, which is probably why I played an AVI native and yours doesn't.
	Oh, by the way, before we get started with the clips, I have some very sad news, John.
	Yeah, I'm not joking around.
	So we have our two pigeons, Fred and Ginger, who have, of course, laid eggs, or as John would say, eggs, in the windowsill.
	We're on kind of the second floor with the containment cell there right off the deck, and I've been feeding them.
	And, of course, we hatched two pidgeettes.
	We still don't know what...
	Chick pigeons are called.
	And so we named them Oatmeal and Granola, for what I fed them every single day.
	And so unfortunately, Mickey called me with the news.
	We've been waiting for them to fly, and of course they're on the ledge two stories up.
	And I guess today was Flight Day, and Oatmeal didn't make it.
	She's down at the bottom, dead?
	Yeah.
	And Granola was down.
	What about the other one?
	Granola's okay?
	Granola's okay.
	Granola flew down with, we think, ginger.
	It's kind of hard to tell them apart.
	And they were, you know, sitting around going, ooh, ooh, ooh.
	That was sad.
	So, I guess that's why nature makes two of them.
	I guess.
	Yeah, it sucks, though.
	Well, at least it wasn't eaten by a crow.
	No, no, no.
	Mickey picked it up and she was like ready to call the...
	Did she bury it?
	I haven't asked what she did with it.
	Yeah, she probably picked it up and buried it.
	This just proves the two of you are kind of nutty.
	No, we're not nutty.
	It's a pigeon.
	I went down and rushed down and she would have eaten it.
	Exactly.
	No.
	That's mean, John.
	The bones are still soft when it's young.
	And she said if it was breathing, she would have taken it to the animal hospital.
	They would have said, what are you thinking?
	It's a pigeon.
	I know, but we love them.
	Anyway, so we'll have to see how granola does.
	But oatmeal was also the smaller of the two, so I think it was just like fly day and it just wasn't ready or something like that.
	Yeah, it was a runt.
	Yeah.
	Well, I'm sure everybody listening in is fascinated by this story.
	Well, no, the people appreciate that.
	We've got our vegan in residence who always wants to hear about the pigeons, and he'll be sad.
	I guess vegans are sad at the drop of a hat.
	This is true.
	All right, clip time.
	So I don't remember what the clips are.
	No.
	Oh, I got a Christina clip.
	You gave us a story about Christina being harassed.
	My daughter, yes, being harassed on the train.
	Yeah, well, here's a local version of the same story.
	Do we need to set it up with Christina's story?
	Nah, it's just a news story from the newspaper.
	You'll know what it's about immediately.
	An immunity station agent could face battery charges following a fight with a couple of passengers.
	Happened this evening at the Embarcadero station.
	The agent apparently asked a young woman for identification because she had bought a juvenile ticket.
	The woman said she was 17 but failed to produce any ID. The agent wouldn't let her and a friend board the train.
	Police say that's when the fight broke out.
	Investigators right now say it appears the agent was the aggressor in that case.
	Both the young woman and the agent were taken to the hospital with minor injuries.
	Oh yeah.
	Oh yeah, totally.
	These days, we're so programmed, and this of course is all, it's mass mind control.
	We're so programmed, the minute you get a uniform, then all of a sudden you've got like some magical power.
	Like you're wearing Superman's cape.
	Yes.
	I am the boss.
	Yeah.
	Absolutely.
	You will obey me.
	It's my train, and you'll do what I tell you, damn it.
	Yeah, it's out of control.
	That's totally out of control.
	And we worry about political correctness.
	She punched the other person out.
	Nah, you don't have any ID. I'm going to kick your butt.
	Yeah, it's my train.
	No ID. No service.
	No ID. Get off my train.
	I mean, somebody comes in with a youth fair, and unless she's an old woman who probably has another kind of fair they could do, there's no reason to be even questioning them.
	Just let them go on.
	What are they saving, a nickel?
	50 cents?
	And by the way, that train is so high class.
	It's so worth it.
	it's so clean and so so pristine and lovely and what are the rest of the muni crap in san francisco by the way ladies and gentlemen out there listening to this if you happen to have the unfortunate uh...
	belief that san francisco some great tourist time which it is if you like being hit by bombs every every couple blocks and and the grime in the street in fact that the parking is twenty five cents for five minutes literally yeah and and that's a fact They have probably the worst public transportation system in the world.
	These things are dirty.
	People are getting beat up constantly.
	There's one, you know, assault after another.
	Do not take public transportation if you come to San Francisco ever.
	And the cabbies, by the way, will rip you off.
	Rent a car.
	And on top of that, they're building the world's biggest bus terminal on my doorstep.
	Yeah, for what reason?
	Yeah.
	It's an amazing construction.
	I tell you that.
	Just an amazing construction.
	Anyway, so avoid San Francisco.
	Hell yeah.
	If you want to go to some...
	You know, Seattle's a pleasant place.
	Or, you know...
	Go to Paris.
	Or Australia.
	Go to South America.
	There's all kinds of cool things to do down there.
	Yeah, you should really not be hanging out here.
	Why did I even consider coming back?
	I question.
	I don't know.
	It's a mystery to me.
	John, before you forget, we, my friend, you and I, This very program.
	And when we win, we will of course thank all of our producers by name.
	It'll be an entire show where it'll just be the acceptance speech award.
	We've been nominated for two podcast awards.
	And I'm quite proud of this because I was nominated for the very first podcast awards, which I think was five, six years ago.
	And I won Best Produced.
	And this year, no agenda is nominated for the, quote, the general category, which, I mean, can you imagine Academy Awards where it's like, and the Academy Award for the Best General Movie goes to, what the hell is that?
	How dumb.
	Best General.
	But of course, I'm proud of the People's Choice Award.
	We're nominated in that category.
	Yeah.
	Well, I think we should win both.
	Hell yeah.
	We didn't get anything for best produced with all these jingles and things we do?
	I mean, we definitely should be getting some of that.
	Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
	Let's vote for jobs!
	Yay!
	All bets, all bets, all bets.
	We need to get the ball cancer thing in there.
	I'm going to work on that one.
	Yeah, could you cut me?
	With the applause.
	Could you cut me?
	Could you cut the ball cancer?
	Yay!
	It's not funny, man.
	It's not funny.
	Well...
	It's not funny, as a matter of fact, but...
	Before we get to...
	Sometimes it's better to make light of things.
	Just make light of horrible...
	You know, I am like that.
	Whenever someone's dying, I can't help but crack jokes.
	Whenever there's something really messed up, I go into...
	I know it's a way of dealing with emotion, but I'm the guy that goes into joke-making mode.
	I just can't help myself.
	And sometimes it cheers people up.
	I doubt it.
	No, it does.
	It does.
	Here comes Curry again with some more one-liners about, you know...
	About my gallbladder.
	My mom used to do that.
	I'd be like, when she was dying of lung cancer, I'd say, hey mom, how you doing?
	She said, oh, I'm doing great, except for the fucking lung cancer that's killing me.
	I loved her for that.
	That was funny.
	Come on, it's funny.
	Old women can do that.
	She wasn't old, dude.
	That was the problem.
	She wasn't old.
	What other clips you got?
	I see your black face seems interesting.
	Oh yeah, this is...
	Yeah, yeah.
	This one is interesting.
	This is a story right there from your neck of the woods, Chicago.
	Chicago!
	Over WGN. Apparently at Northwestern University there was some sort of a Halloween thing and some guys put on blackface and it became a huge scandal in Chicago.
	But the thing that's interesting is the commentary by the reporter I thought was fascinating.
	Okay, and this is from WGN? Yeah.
	WGN, is this the loop?
	No, this is the world's greatest newspaper, WGN. It's a newspaper?
	No, it was owned by the Chicago Tribune for years, and they owned this TV station, and WGN stands for world's greatest newspaper.
	You watch that?
	I have it.
	It comes on the Dish Network.
	Oh, and dude, you know, we are so underpaid for the amount of work you do personally, John.
	This is a fact.
	Well, pictures of white students in blackface at a Halloween party sparking anger and debate among those in the Northwestern University community.
	WGN's Julie Unruh is live on the Evanston campus.
	I just gotta stop.
	I love the way she pukes it.
	You know what I mean?
	She's like, well, white students and black faces, anger and controversy and lots of discussion over the university.
	Let's go to...
	Tonight, as we're hundreds gathered to discuss it tonight.
	Oh, to discuss.
	Hi, Julie.
	Hi, you, Micah.
	There was a huge turnout here at Northwest.
	Hi, you?
	No, I think her name is Hi, you, Micah.
	Hi, you, Micah.
	I think she said, hi, you.
	You know, some people say, hey, how you doing?
	Hi, hi, you.
	Really?
	Isn't her name you, Micah?
	I thought she said, hi, you Micah.
	Because, you know, all these news chicks, they're like all Katie Chungs.
	Hi, you Micah?
	Hi, you Micah.
	Hi, you Micah.
	Or maybe...
	Yo, sister!
	Tonight.
	Hi, Julie.
	Hi, you Micah.
	There was a huge turnout here at Northwestern to talk about exactly what happened on Halloween night.
	To be specific, sounds like two students dressed as blackface, a racially insensitive character, really a throwback to the 1800s.
	Whoa.
	Whoa, hold on a second.
	Let me get that sentence again.
	Oh, it gets better.
	So, dressed in blackface, really racially offensive, throwback to the 1800s.
	Wasn't this vaudeville still taking place in Sammy Davis Jr.'s day in 1930s?
	Okay, I'm sorry.
	Students dressed as blackface, a racially insensitive character, really throwback to the 1800s, when white slave owners would mock their slaves.
	Okay, this is not true!
	What?
	This is bullshit!
	What are you talking about, you dumb woman reporter?
	Julie!
	Julie, you ignorant slut!
	I mean, give me a break.
	It came out of the minstrel tradition is where it came from.
	But let's just take the remote possibility that white slave owners would go into blackface to mock the slaves.
	I mean, are you kidding me?
	Hey, let's go mock the slaves and maybe they'll kill us in our sleep.
	Here's some coal.
	I got an idea.
	I have a thought.
	Let's mock them.
	We have not humiliated, whipped them, or beaten them enough.
	We need to mock them.
	I was watching C-SPAN the other day.
	They had a documentary on Sammy Davis Jr.
	And you saw him in blackface.
	And he was born in the late 30s, I think.
	Blackface only ended probably around 1960s.
	Yeah.
	It's a throwback to the 1800s.
	Queen Elizabeth was in blackface.
	Do these people just make it up as they go along on these news shows?
	And of course there's no question.
	Nobody says anything.
	And the woman, I believe the woman who's the anchor is actually black.
	No.
	She could have said something, but she doesn't care either.
	Her name is Wayumi.
	That's impossible.
	Oh, hi, why you me?
	Hi, why you me?
	Hi, why you me?
	How'd you get to hi, you me?
	I don't know.
	Let's listen to that.
	That was a beautiful, a beautiful piece of prose.
	This is, and by the way, the same woman will report on actual news coming up.
	Racially insensitive character, really a throwback to the 1800s when white slave owners would mock their slaves.
	Wait a minute.
	Let's look at Wikipedia.
	Maybe that's in Wikipedia.
	Oh, it could be.
	Let's see.
	That's where they get most of the news background stuff.
	Exactly.
	If anybody hasn't noticed, by the way, Wikipedia is the source of today's mystery.
	Let's see.
	Oh!
	Blackface is theatrical makeup used by white people to play black people.
	In the United States, where the practice became popular during the 19th century, so that's the 1800s, it became associated with certain archetypes of American racism, such as the happy-go-lucky darky on the plantation, or the dandified coon.
	Here it is.
	Blackface was an important tradition in the American theater for roughly a hundred years beginning around 1830.
	Yeah, it was because they couldn't use blacks for the minstrel shows, even though there was actually one black troupe.
	I saw there was a special on PBS about the minstrels, and there was actually a black troupe that did go around, but for the most part it was white entertainers that, you know, stole the material.
	By the way, and the blacks always complain about this for good reason, you guys are stealing our material!
	Yeah, it's true!
	What are you going to do about it?
	What are you going to do about it?
	So anyway, but it's not to mock them.
	It was white slave owners.
	And it wasn't theatrical, folks.
	It was white slave owners.
	I mean, who comes up with this?
	Does she just dream this up out of the blue?
	Does it get better?
	No, it's the end of it.
	No, no, there's more.
	There seems to be 29 seconds left.
	Oh, it's just a bunch of crap.
	Oh, yeah, play the rest of it.
	The day after Halloween, back here in Evanston, images like the one we're about to show you...
	I'm amazed she didn't say Halloween, which of course is a pagan festival which dates back to the 1700s when plantation owners used to mock pumpkins.
	Or news about it was spreading like wildfire across the campus.
	At least one of the two students is reportedly an athlete here at Northwestern.
	Oh no!
	Oh, which means he's a good guy.
	You shouldn't be doing that.
	He's reportedly an athlete.
	Can't you find out if he is one or not?
	You're doing the story.
	He's reportedly an athlete with flu-like symptoms.
	Encouraging tonight's forum on the subject.
	What was that?
	There was a little piece left over from last night.
	Tonight's forum on the subject says the students, using very poor judgment, did not break any rules.
	Excuse me, for now...
	Sorry, I'm losing my voice here.
	For now, it doesn't appear there'll be any...
	Honey, you're losing your mind.
	You're not just losing your voice.
	And you should be losing your job.
	That's a good one, John.
	That's cool.
	WGN stands for World's Greatest Newspaper.
	So how did they hire this bonehead?
	I'd like to know where she got this impression.
	You know, I get the sense there's a lot of people out there that actually, you know, they picked this stuff up in high school, or somebody said something.
	The liberal, not to complain about today's school or educational system that Obama's supposed to do something about, he's done nothing.
	But, you know, most of the schools are extremely liberal.
	I mean, my kids, I had to put them in private schools and homeschool.
	Because it was out of control, right?
	Yeah, because they'd come home and it would be, what are you talking about?
	All of them?
	Yeah!
	It was like Columbus was a horrible person, a slave trader.
	Yeah, a horrible man.
	You know, Martin Luther King is the one who freed the slaves.
	I mean, the misinformation, crazy ideas.
	And by any chance, were they taught the Constitution in school, John?
	No, why bother?
	It's just an old piece of...
	The Constitution, which reportedly dates back to the 1600s, is known as a piece of paper with a bunch of signatures on it.
	Used to mock the King of England.
	So I assume that this woman probably heard about this thing about blackface from some teacher who just threw it out there and she remembered it because I don't think she just dreamed it up.
	She must have heard it.
	But she uses it as part of her reportage, which is like, what are you talking about?
	This is like the thing we pointed out recently where the woman went on and on about how the Chinese and Mexicans built the railways back in the 80s.
	This is why we call it a media assassination, because the only way we know to wake our fellow citizens of Gitmo Nation up is to expose what is going on before you that you let seep into your brain every single evening for hours on end.
	You let that shit take place.
	You have to stop it.
	Stay off the TV. Turn off your TV. Absolutely.
	So we're going to go with some media assassination.
	I got one here that's kind of interesting.
	It's actually, I think it's...
	We got two more clips.
	You want to do some other stories before you blow through all the clips?
	Well, since we're on a media assassination thing, I think this is going to take us to the shooting at Fort Hood.
	This is my favorite Fox guy, Shepard Smith.
	And by the way, I have to say this because I think this guy is an out-and-out douche.
	Hey, that's a very hip word for you to use, John.
	And I have to say, though, that there's a lot of people that don't like me, personally.
	They don't like my style of writing.
	They don't like the way I talk.
	It's just because they don't know you.
	And there's people that don't like you.
	Because I'm a douche.
	Some of them do know you, by the way.
	I'm just a douche.
	Wait a minute.
	Wait a minute.
	There are people who actually know me that you know who don't like me?
	No, not really.
	Everybody's in love with you.
	No, no, no.
	Come on, tell me.
	Who is it?
	I don't know.
	Well, Leo.
	How can you say he doesn't like me?
	You don't know that for a fact.
	I just think he doesn't like you.
	I mean, he's always saying nasty things behind your back.
	Oh.
	Well, that does it.
	Anyway, it's beside the point.
	I shall put on some black lace and mock him.
	The point is that there are people who don't like me, people who don't like you, for whatever reason.
	There's just like some personality quirk, or you just don't like the person.
	You don't have to like everybody in the world, and I don't care if a bunch of people don't like me.
	No, I don't want everybody to like me.
	Absolutely.
	No, and maybe some people aren't going to like you.
	I mean, some people don't like me, and that's just the way it is.
	I don't like Shepard Smith.
	Hello, kettle?
	I don't like Shepard Smith and it could be just some sort of prejudice I have because he looks like a Southern Baptist preacher and talks like one and he's full of crap.
	Right on.
	So I have a couple of clips.
	They come in different order.
	I probably have them in reverse order, but it's about the shooting.
	You might as well play the one that says to play first, and we'll go over it.
	This is a long clip that you're going to have to interrupt a lot.
	It's him getting a rundown of the shooting.
	Shepard Smith is the Ryan Seacrest of Fox.
	That's essentially what it is.
	That's what he is.
	But I kind of like Ryan Seacrest.
	I do, too, in a way.
	There's these kind of no-talent guys.
	And Ryan Seacrest is very successful.
	He's got a huge radio show in Los Angeles.
	He produces half the shows on E! And the guy on The Soup always takes the piss out of him, which I like.
	And he takes it, you know, because he's...
	Yeah, no, I think he's got a good personality.
	He's got a good sense of humor.
	He takes all that shit about his height.
	And he's making dough.
	The guy's loaded.
	Yeah, yeah.
	But Shepard Smith is kind of, I don't know exactly what he does, but he reminds me of Ryan Seacrest.
	So it is the Ryan Seacrest of Fox.
	Let's hear what he has to say about the Fort Hood shooting.
	Supervisors once met to discuss concerns about his behavior.
	A military source tells the Associated Press that doctors were worried about how Major Hassan was acting in the...
	So this of course is the meme that's being spread.
	And in a way I like it, but of course it's horrible and not true, is that it was due to political correctness.
	Well, we didn't want to seem like we were profiling the Muslim guy.
	That's the meme.
	Because we thought he was kind of weird, but we didn't want to upset the Muslim community.
	...months before the attack at Fort Hood.
	Catherine Herridge with that part of the investigation live in Washington tonight.
	Catherine, what's that all about?
	Well, thanks, Jeff.
	The Associated Press is citing an unnamed military official who says that...
	Lovely.
	That's reporting right there.
	An unnamed, citing an unnamed military official.
	Could that be like, bullshit!
	The PR guy for the army.
	Bullshit!
	Bullshit!
	Words matter, ladies and gentlemen.
	Listen to the words.
	...was belligerent, defensive, and argumentative when he discussed his Muslim faith with others.
	Claim first reported by NPR here in Washington also states...
	That, by the way, doesn't sound very Muslim at all.
	That's not how Muslims talk about their faith.
	True Muslims don't talk in a belligerent, irritated manner.
	They don't.
	It's all about love.
	The doctors overseeing his training at Walter Reed discussed their concerns about Hassan's behavior.
	NPR is also reporting further action was blocked, according to the doctors they interviewed, largely due to bureaucracy.
	According to the doctors they interviewed, let's not tell you which ones either.
	It's apparently difficult and a lengthy process to expel doctors in the military.
	You know, there was a lot of talk today, Catherine, about who was at fault here or there regarding any missed warning signs.
	Oh, this is great.
	This is fantastic, John.
	So now we're going to get the warning sign so we can spy on our Muslim neighbors.
	Yep.
	But not only that, but there's a kicker in here that...
	Don't blow me away, right?
	There's one of these kickers that goes, Oh, brother, this is a good one.
	Listen to their lame excuse.
	Go on.
	Well, that's correct.
	Multiple investigators familiar with the FBI's review.
	Again, multiple investigators familiar.
	I mean, could you just tell me who?
	Give me some names.
	...of the Hassan emails sent to that radical imam say there was not enough in those messages to launch a full investigation.
	One government counterterrorism investigator tells me, have we launched...
	Another counterterrorist investigator.
	She knows a lot of people, John.
	I'd love to have her Rolodex.
	It's all Mr.
	Smith.
	A lot of S's.
	It's bullshit.
	Had we launched an investigation of Hassan, we'd have been crucified, because the mail suggested he was looking for spiritual and religious guidance.
	We couldn't launch because of First Amendment privileges.
	Well, there it is.
	No, stop!
	There's no First Amendment privilege when it comes to that.
	Wait, let's stop and analyze what she said.
	Let's listen to it again to make sure we get it right.
	Back it up.
	An investigator tells me, had we launched an investigation of Hassan, we'd have been crucified, because the mail suggested he was looking for spiritual and religious guidance.
	We couldn't launch because of First Amendment privileges.
	They're already reading the guy's email.
	Yeah.
	They're reading the guy's email!
	Don't you have, like, some protection under the Constitution for that?
	Yeah, apparently not if you're in the army, but it's beside the point.
	Just listen to the structure of this whole argument.
	First of all, they say...
	First of all...
	We have something called the Patriot Act.
	You can pretty much do anything you want, investigate it in an investigation, or you can investigate anybody you want.
	You can arrest anybody you want, at any moment.
	You can do anything you want.
	So this is bull.
	This is just an out-and-out lie.
	I don't even know if she's making it up or not.
	And then they throw in this little needle about, well, the First Amendment, the First Amendment.
	And, of course, Shepard Smith says nothing about this, like, don't you think we should be protecting the First Amendment?
	Well, apparently not, because if the First Amendment can go by the wayside, then we won't have these incidents anymore.
	Whose side are these people on?
	John C. DeVore, ex-petive of day.
	This source adds that Hassan's emails were vetted and shared, quote, within the appropriate chains, but they would not explain who it defends and at what level, Shep.
	Shep.
	Hey, Shep.
	Oh, do you hear the sirens, John?
	They're coming to get me.
	Good.
	Hey, Shep.
	Hey, Shep.
	Well, that's it, Shep.
	I have all these sources who I can't name and...
	Your source told you more about the real...
	Your source?
	She doesn't have a source.
	She has a makeup woman.
	Hair and makeup people.
	She doesn't have sources.
	Substance of these emails, right?
	Well, correct.
	The emails are characterized to me this way.
	He, Hassan, appeared to be at a moral impasse, facing a moral dilemma, who was reaching out for advice from that radical imam.
	This sounds like I'm listening to Law& Order.
	These are actors.
	They're reading a script.
	They're reading from the script.
	It's completely made up.
	There's just no sources.
	There's no information.
	No one read the emails to her.
	And apparently there's no constitution.
	And this government counter-terrorism investigator also suggests that Hassan may have had other suspicious contacts telling me no one missed anything or connections.
	Links to Al-Qaeda!
	To nefarious individuals and all...
	Nefarious.
	Well, then why do they have an investigation?
	Well?
	All of this presumably will come out in the review both at the FBI and within the military shop.
	There's a lot of presumably, allegedly unknown sources.
	This show stinks.
	But it gets worse.
	You know what?
	I'm about ready to go take a flu shot.
	Ready for it.
	I don't want to be on the same earth with this woman.
	So all the Wall Street bankers are getting flu shots.
	I think that's just desserts.
	That's good.
	That rocks.
	So now it gets even funnier.
	So we go from this bogus report, which wants to get rid of the First Amendment because it seems to be what's in the way of everything.
	This is no good.
	The First Amendment.
	We could have stopped the senseless killing.
	So, yeah, and the way they did that subtle First Amendment thing, just that's really, I mean, I turned red when I heard that.
	I'm thinking, this is Fox, the Democrats, you know, this phony baloney network.
	I love your Freudian slip, Fox, the Democrats.
	Your Freudian slip is great.
	It wasn't Freudian.
	So anyway, I buy into the theory.
	So let's go to the next Shepard Smith clip.
	Now this one here, you have to actually watch it.
	It is hilarious.
	But you're going to listen to the whole thing and at the end...
	So I'm not allowed to interrupt?
	No, you can interrupt, but I'll tell you when to let it go to the end.
	What's interesting at the end is Shepard Smith is handed a softball to ask a question about.
	A huge...
	Absolutely.
	I never heard this on any other network.
	It's just like, here is something very interesting.
	Let's follow up on it.
	What does he do?
	He doesn't even notice it.
	It's like a Nerf ball in slow motion is what you're saying.
	It was like, yeah, exactly.
	Now, the setup for this is they apparently somehow got into this guy's, this shooter's apartment.
	And they looked around and they saw all these things like a thumbtack and a chair.
	Oh no!
	Sources say a very suspicious chair with a thumbtack upside down.
	Play the clip.
	In the living room we saw a heavy-duty paper shredder.
	Oh no!
	Clearly to destroy evidence.
	...was left open.
	Any trace of paper had already been removed.
	Next to the shredder we saw prayer mats.
	On the kitchen table, we saw foreign currency, coins from...
	Were they in my apartment?
	It's not a prayer mat.
	It's a yoga mat, okay?
	Something I've got to mention is that these prayer mats are like two scarves.
	I mean, a Muslim prayer mat is usually a pretty nice little rug.
	It's a beautiful rug, yeah.
	These look like two scarves.
	They've got prayer mats.
	Oh my God.
	I'm telling you, this is my apartment.
	Foreign coins, paper shredder.
	I got yoga mats, so they look like prayer mats.
	It could be.
	I mean, we don't know what you really do.
	Exactly.
	And I've got a sex swing.
	Kitchen table, we saw foreign currency.
	Coins from Jordan and Israel.
	And a book entitled Dreams.
	I've got foreign currency from Zimbabwe.
	I am dangerous.
	And interpretations.
	Also in the kitchen, a stack of papers that were turned upside down.
	Oh no!
	Oh!
	Oh no!
	It's a stack of papers turned upside down.
	What a report.
	I'm sure people are sitting there going, like, shit, honey.
	Honey, he had foreign coins.
	An upside down paper stack.
	Yeah, that must mean something.
	I'm sorry for it to be Southern when I do that, but that's just the stereotype.
	I'm a slave owner mocking...
	I'm a Northerner mocking the Southerners from the 1800s.
	I'm sorry.
	I apologize.
	And a green lockbox was left in the kitchen sink.
	In the bedroom, we saw a new DVD burner, but no signs of a computer to operate it.
	It's probably your son, John.
	This bogus DVD burner.
	In the utility room, we saw a shoebox full of vitamins and medication, including prescription drugs that Hassan had prescribed for himself and filled at Walter Reed and another clinic at Lackland Air Force Base.
	Was it Viagra?
	And on our way out, we noticed a closet that was taped shut with a note that read, Do not open.
	Until December 25th.
	What is that?
	It's an idiotic report.
	Okay, I'm going to let it run to the end now.
	Yeah, let it run to the end.
	And Shepard, the medicine inside that shoebox included cough suppressants, medicine to fight off bronchitis, and other medication to treat HIV, Shepard.
	His lawyer was speaking to this.
	So that's the softball, obviously.
	He's not listening, John.
	He's reading HIV drugs.
	No, Shepard Smith is already reading the script for the next segment.
	He's already memorizing his lines.
	Play that a little bit at the end again, because the way he shoves it off to another topic is just hilarious.
	It's amazing.
	Machitis and other medication to treat HIV, Shepard.
	His lawyer was speaking today.
	What did he say?
	It's completely...
	This is a script.
	His lawyer is speaking today.
	What did he say?
	The guy has AIDS. Yeah.
	And this isn't brought up by anybody at Fox?
	This is kind of interesting.
	Don't you think it should be at least questioned?
	Or there should be some aspect of this?
	I mean, it just doesn't, you know, I don't know if it means anything, but it sure is interesting.
	It's more interesting than the paper stack turned upside down.
	No, I thought that was pretty good man.
	That's some real production right there.
	Yeah, this whole thing is, first of all, it is the distraction du jour.
	For the right wingers.
	Yeah, but it's not just the distraction, it is the catalyst for the renewal of the Patriot Act, and I am convinced that this is exactly what's needed to bring in another 48,000 troops into Afghanistan, which I want to talk about later as well.
	Well, you've got to do something, but those poppies are going to be rotten here pretty soon.
	So Seth, who was a former soldier and Fort Hood resident and one of our producers, sent me a transcript of a snippet from O'Reilly on Fox.
	Lieutenant Colonel Ralph Peters, who was a Fox News strategic analyst, was on the show.
	And I'll just quote, Bill, we just need to get a grip on this and put it in perspective.
	Very straightforward.
	What happened yesterday at Fort Hood was the worst terrorist attack on American soil since 9-11.
	It was committed by a Muslim fanatic who shouted, Allah is great and gunned down 44 unarmed innocent soldiers and civilians.
	So I wish I had the clip, but I think I did a pretty good job. - This is probably as good as the clip.
	So that's basically the message.
	Of course, we talked a lot about the weapon that was used, and we've got to figure...
	We have noagendaforums.com, and what I really appreciate is instead of sending John and I email, because it becomes a real problem.
	There's so many people listening to the show.
	For instance, when we said, hey...
	Can we get someone to do a lo-fi version of the show?
	Well, you can get this show now in just about every bit rate, every encoding algorithm you can imagine, except there's no way for me to gather all the information other than I will have one link in the show notes to a lo-fi, which was requested by one of our, what, Australian listeners, I think?
	Some guy in the middle of nowhere.
	But when you are a weapons expert, and I highly appreciate it, put it in noagendaforum.com.
	That's really where the information can go.
	Yeah, we can search it.
	The follow-up stuff, yeah.
	So, the weapon Hassan used, quote, used, according to sources, was the FN-57 handgun, John.
	I thought it was an AR-15.
	Well, the thing is, this is part of the problem is the reports are so messed up.
	I mean, I read an M16 was used, which is what we discussed on the last show.
	So now they've all decided it is a small handgun, the 5.7.
	It shoots 5.7 by 28 millimeter rounds.
	By the way, it's not a clip, John.
	It is a magazine.
	A handgun with a magazine?
	A handgun has a clip.
	Well, look, I'm not going to argue with our producers.
	He says technically it is incorrect.
	Technically a gun expert would call it a magazine.
	A capacity of 20 rounds...
	And, of course, the media made a big stink some time ago about the 5.7 by 28 millimeter being around capable of piercing body armor.
	So none of that type of ammunition is for sale to civilians.
	John also mentioned high-capacity magazine, well, he called them clips, were illegal for civilian purchase.
	That's no longer true since, oh, the expiration of the erroneously named assault weapon ban in 2004.
	Ah, interesting.
	So this could actually be spun to get the assault weapon ban back on track.
	Ah.
	That's a good one.
	That's a good one.
	Absolutely.
	That's why they just threw in the 5.7.
	Oh, they used this ammo.
	But still, the amount of damage, I mean, wow.
	Wow.
	For a handgun.
	Have you ever shot a handgun?
	Have you ever, I mean, just like...
	Of course you have.
	You know, that shit ain't easy to hit something.
	That's not true.
	If you're reloading and you're basically blowing down one of these guns, you can hit people easy.
	He reloaded three times.
	This is the thing that I don't get.
	If you go to the range and shoot a lot, you get pretty good at it.
	But the fact of the matter is they say that this guy didn't even like guns and he didn't shoot much, but meanwhile he's slapping magazines in and out of this thing like a pro.
	It's like somebody on CSI. By the way, why are CSI guys so good with guns?
	aren't they just supposed to be crime scene investigators?
	But anyways, beside the point.
	It just seems to me that you look like you're on, you know, you're some professional, the hit man, shooting up the place.
	I don't know.
	This whole thing stinks.
	He's a patsy and there were more people.
	It doesn't matter.
	I mean, it's horrible.
	It doesn't matter.
	It happened.
	It happened.
	The Patriot Act, we get gun, just ban all guns.
	Yeah.
	It's just, why do they have to go?
	I mean, why don't they just, well, they have to go killing people.
	They've got to go killing people to get their way.
	That's the thug way to do it.
	That's the Chicago way.
	You know what?
	I'm not getting what I want.
	Here, bitch.
	Hey, you know, the fact of the matter is, if you remember, we did this on the show about a month ago, they had this terrorist in Chicago that was going to blow something up, and then they had the phony baloney terrorist in Fort Worth that was suckered by the government agent to blow something up, and it didn't blow up, of course, because the guy was just obviously mentally retarded, and they managed to talk him into doing a bunch of stuff that proves he would have blown up the building if he could, because he was a dummy.
	And so that got no traction.
	It was just like, oh, two terrorists, blah, blah, blah, blah.
	Now let's talk about the two terrorists.
	Domestic terrorists, you know, domestic bread or whatever it means.
	They haven't labeled this guy yet as a domestic terrorist.
	That's coming next, probably.
	There's got to be some labeling going on with this guy, and there's going to be a few more things.
	Homegrown.
	Homegrown terrorist.
	Homegrown terrorist, yeah.
	Homegrown, that's right.
	So the guy is apparently awake.
	By the way, to use the word homegrown is also, you know, since homegrown also means people who grow their own weed.
	Marijuana, yeah.
	Do you want to put as much bad spin on that term that you can?
	Because if marijuana is ever legalized, homegrown is going to be bad marijuana.
	Oh, yeah.
	Of course, because it has to be the legal shit.
	Well, by the way, there's one more thing about this guy.
	When they went through his house, they said he had coinage from Jordan and Israel.
	What is he doing in Israel?
	The Muslims don't go to Israel.
	They don't like Israel.
	Well, he was obviously...
	Nobody's asking about that either, so what am I even bringing it up for?
	So apparently the guy's awake.
	He's off the breathing apparatus.
	Yeah, they're going to have to make him die or something.
	I've already played the sound effect too many times.
	Unfortunately, they couldn't talk to him because he already succumbed to his injuries or some shit like that.
	No, I can't imagine this guy getting loose.
	Joe Lieberman said Sunday he wants Congress to determine whether the shootings constitute a terrorist attack and whether warning signs that Hassan was embracing an increasingly extremist view of Islamic ideology were missed.
	There you go.
	It's in Congress.
	Thanks, Lieb.
	Thanks, Lieby.
	Good job, dude.
	I mean, it totally sucks what happened, but what's coming out of this is messed up.
	Yeah.
	Meanwhile, the whole thing stinks.
	Something really good happened.
	A bunch of people were killed in this action, and I just find the whole thing distressing.
	There was some really good television that I unfortunately missed, because I'm a big fan of this idea, and unfortunately we don't really do it right or do it enough.
	You remember John Allen Muhammad?
	He was the trunk sharpshooter.
	Oh yeah, right.
	The guy that was in the trunk in Washington, D.C. shooting through a hole in the back.
	Yeah, killing people.
	Killing people, right.
	Yeah, killing people.
	And of course, we weren't doing the show back then.
	Otherwise, I'm sure we would have come up with some conspiracy that it wasn't this guy or whatever.
	However, he was convicted and he was sentenced to death by lethal injection.
	And Larry King live, carried it live.
	They had the camera live on the scene and everything, and they waited for the guy to come out and say that he had died.
	And I keep waiting.
	Why don't they just put the camera in the execution room?
	Oh, we're one step away.
	Yeah, well, I'm telling you, it's huge for the ratings.
	Oh, I predicted this 20 years ago.
	I mean, you and I probably both have agreed on this.
	We've talked about this.
	Yeah, we've talked about it.
	This is huge.
	Why don't you just get it over with, TV people?
	Yeah, put them on.
	Realize that you're a bunch of slime balls anyway, and do this.
	Do it.
	Get it over with.
	The public will love it.
	And besides that, it might actually be a deterrent to crime.
	Yeah, when you see someone flopping around.
	They have this big argument about, you know, the death penalty is a deterrent to crime.
	It's a deterrent to crime.
	Then show it on TV. It's not a deterrent if you don't see it.
	Yeah, you've got to see.
	You've got to see that needle going in.
	You've got to see the guy flopping, struggling for air.
	And we should have a live studio audience.
	And we should have a little applause sign flashing.
	Maybe they can rate the death.
	Yeah, that's right.
	No, no.
	No, no.
	Oh, dude, even better.
	It's a reality show.
	It's Death Row, and you get voted off.
	And we get voted off.
	One guy's life is saved.
	That's right.
	Death Row.
	You're saved.
	By Mark Burnett.
	We could have Ryan Seacrest host it.
	He'd be like, I'm sorry, Muhammad, you've been voted off this week.
	Well, time to strap him in, everybody!
	Strap him in!
	Strap him in!
	It'd be perfect.
	I think it'd be better with the electric chair, though.
	That's supposed to be really gruesome to watch.
	Yeah, because your eyeballs pop out and shit.
	And brown goo comes out of your mouth and you shake a lot.
	So, if you're thinking to yourself, wow, these guys are on to something, and you'd like to hear more of these fabulous ideas, perhaps three times a week, hey, John, tell them how they can get it!
	Well, you can do it by donating to the No Agenda cause.
	And by the way, we appreciate everybody who gave us money since Sunday.
	We actually got a pretty good response this week.
	So we must have done something right.
	I think thanking people for...
	We get a lot of people still that send us small amounts.
	And a lot of people that have coughed up...
	Two people have coughed up what was left, even though it's like $3.
	But it still helps.
	What was left of their PayPal account, they just...
	Empty.
	Because the guy says, hey, I realize they had some money left in this stupid thing.
	I'd never use it for anything.
	Here, take it.
	Boom.
	Done.
	Love it.
	Thank you.
	Highly appreciated.
	So let's go over some people that contributed to some of our new producers and some of the old ones.
	Tanya Weiman, W-E-I-M-A-N from New York City, who I kept pronouncing Weiman, decided to donate another $50 so she could tell me off because I was mispronouncing her name constantly.
	And she has claimed it, so I think you should start marking it down.
	She has claimed that she is on her own personal night layaway program.
	Yes, she is.
	There's a couple of people doing that.
	But she can't be a knight.
	Doesn't she have to be like a lady?
	A knightess.
	I don't know.
	We're going to have to do some research before she gets to the $1,000 mark because I don't want to embarrass ourselves or her.
	But anyway, Tanya Wieman, and I'm sorry I mispronounced her name, but...
	I keep looking at it, and I just don't get the Weeman problem.
	Maybe I'm wrong.
	But anyway, New York City.
	Let's see, William Arcand, we mentioned, he's on his own night program, too, and he gave us $137.37, and then he followed it up with $173.73, and so he has some sort of complex about how to do things.
	Maybe next will be whatever.
	Millions.
	Then we have from kind of an anonymous donor in Phoenix.
	He just wants us to pay for $50.
	He says, anybody going to Arizona in the next week, check out podcampaz.org.
	He apparently teaches people to do podcasting, and it's podcampaz.org.
	You might learn something.
	Hopefully, he's familiar with good quality microphones.
	Yes.
	By the way, this week, in my hotel room, I am using the empty Voss water bottle as my microphone stand.
	What is the brand of that lavalier you use?
	It is the Lectro.
	So that's Lima Echo, Charlie, Tango, Romeo, Oscar.
	The Lectro voice?
	No, Lectro.
	Lectro.
	UM-110.
	I've never even heard of that, Mike.
	Yeah, well, it kicks ass.
	Well, for your voice, maybe.
	Nelson Kunkel, Edwards, Colorado, $250.
	He's one of the executive producers for this week's show, along with William R. Kand.
	Then we have Werner Bogula, B-O-G-U-L-A, $50, and he's in Hamburg, Germany.
	Guten Tag, Werner.
	Danke.
	Vielen Dank, mein Freund.
	Komm her.
	And then we had some woman who's anonymous that said that she keeps donating and she says that she's doing it for Doug Adams, the late author, who actually I knew.
	Would he have liked the show, do you think?
	He'd love the show.
	Yeah, I think he would because it's anarchistic enough for his amazing sense of humor.
	There's the 752.
	Yes, 752 is going by hauling people to Sacramento.
	James McLemore, Nashua, New Hampshire.
	$52.25, a palindrome.
	Yes.
	James Real, R-I-E-H-L. I think it's pronounced Real.
	Oh, Real.
	Oh, Real.
	Brooklyn!
	He's in Brooklyn.
	Brooklyn!
	$50.
	And then we have another anonymous person who actually gave us $150 that doesn't want to be mentioned at all, except for he wants us to...
	Fix the URLs in the RSS feed.
	Well, the problem, John, is twofold.
	Actually, the problem lies entirely with the Mevio uploader, and I'm not sure what the problem is, and I've asked Andrew Grumet to look at it.
	He's been incredibly busy with all this frickin' ad network crap, and, you know, it's like fill rates and whatever, so...
	Fill rates.
	All right, I'm just saying that's what he says, his message.
	We definitely, because I guess the problem is, That the noagendashow.com site is picking up the RSS feed and the RSS feed somehow, for some reason it adds a slash in front of every URL, so typically a browser will view that as a base URL. It's lame.
	We're lame.
	We need to hire someone to fix that.
	Or Andrew Drumitt could fix it.
	I don't know if he had the time.
	Sterling Ellsworth, our old buddy in Santa Barbara.
	Sterling, $77.77.
	He's going for the lucky numbers.
	He wants to hit 777 on the slot machine.
	And this is his eighth donation of that exact same.
	Now, here we go.
	Vladimir Frunza, F-R-U-N-Z-A, $50.
	St.
	Petersburg, Russia.
	Awesome.
	Isn't that great?
	Yeah.
	I wonder if there's like an underground network, a botnet distributing no agenda.
	Well, if they wanted, you know, I would like to have more Russian listeners because they can contribute all kinds of wacky ideas.
	Oh, yeah.
	Well, Alex, who's in Gitmo Nation East, is from Russia.
	He's always got some good stuff.
	He sends stuff over from time to time.
	Christopher Lynn Hartson from Richland, Washington gave us $84.61, which is a generous donation, and that's Obama's birthday.
	So 8461, I guess.
	Matthew Stroh, Holly Springs, North Carolina gave us $54.46, and he says that the number has something to do with Toots and the Maytals.
	What?
	That's what he said.
	Toots and the Maytals?
	Yeah, 54, 46.
	I think somebody else did that once before.
	Anyway, finally, Marco Iacono.
	I'm sure it's pronounced Iacono, I hope.
	Another New Yorker.
	New York City.
	It's like two from New York City, $50.
	Well, because it's finally hitting in New York.
	In New York, the crunch is on.
	People are out of work.
	Condos are...
	Electricity is...
	You're not going to hear this.
	You know, Shepard Smith is not going to bring you this news, but let me do it for you, okay?
	My sources have told me That condos in New York City, they're turning off electricity, water, and other essential utilities because the condo companies are broke and they can't pay the bills.
	Commercial real estate is standing empty.
	Pretty soon we're going to have homeless people breaking into offices and living there.
	If you've never seen Escape from New York, go rent the DVD, because that's what's happening.
	It's coming to New York.
	You know, squatters, that's what they do.
	Yeah.
	You go in, you find a building that's vacant, you just move in.
	Hell yeah.
	You know, you can get the gas light, the gas lamps, you know, the Aladdin lamp, the one that uses a mantle.
	The lights are on.
	Most of these empty buildings, the lights are still on at night.
	Not for long.
	You don't need that.
	But, you know, if they kill the lights, I mean, usually they're not going to cut the gas.
	Maybe they will.
	But you can bring in little stoves and stuff.
	You can get by.
	You can have other lamps.
	You can have battery-powered stuff.
	What you do is you take your laptop, you put it in the abandoned building, and you use it until the battery dies, and you go down to the New York Public Library, charge it in the library while you're surfing the lab.
	While you're reading.
	While you're reading, and then you take it back, and you've got enough juice.
	You can't be surfing Dvorak.org in the library, though.
	I think you're banned.
	No, I don't know.
	I'd have to look and check.
	I'd like somebody to tell me if you can go to the New York Public Library and if my site is blocked.
	So I have to say my heart feels good, John.
	It feels like we got a lot of donations this week.
	Yeah, we did.
	We got our amount of pretty much what we need to get, and I would encourage other people to donate in any way you want.
	I mean, you can give us what's left of your PayPal account, or you can subscribe to the $5 a month thing, or you can give us a big donation, $50 or more you get mentioned, or you can give $200 and get a, you can get essentially something for your bio.
	Go to Dvorak.org slash NA or NoAgendaShow.com and then click on one of the links to the PayPal account and I'm going to set up a Google and some of the other money collection accounts.
	Oh, please.
	Oh, stop threatening.
	Stop threatening, please.
	Because people complain that they don't like PayPal.
	I know.
	I'm a little slow on the draw.
	Have you read that white paper I sent you?
	I can't...
	It's breaking up, Adam.
	Did you read the white paper I sent you about getting things done?
	No, you didn't.
	I have it, but I didn't...
	You forgot to get to it.
	So I've been using the system now for three days.
	No, four days.
	I love it.
	You were using it four days the last time we talked about it.
	No, I was using it one day.
	And I'd already remembered to get the milk.
	Okay, then it's a week.
	I've been using it for a week.
	I love it.
	It's absolutely working for me.
	I love it.
	I love it.
	Actually, you can try...
	I think the site is called Don'tForgetTheMilk.com.
	I use that.
	Yeah?
	Don't forget the milk.com on my Google Calendar.
	Right, but maybe if you read the introduction to the white paper, that's all you need.
	You're a smart guy.
	You'll get it.
	You'll know how to apply the system.
	It's worth it.
	Right after the show is over.
	Yeah.
	Thou shalt not kill.
	I just want to mention to everybody that we really thank you for, especially the lesser donations, the bigger donations, everything in between, but just go to noagendashow.com and devorek.org slash NA and keep this going.
	And when we win our People's Choice Podcast Award, we will thank every single person who has donated to the show.
	That'll take up a couple shows.
	No, we'll just do one whole show where that's all we do.
	We can do that as an extra.
	We can do it as I put on a CD. Okay.
	I know my name's in there somewhere.
	It's in the second hour.
	There was something I was sent.
	I don't know if you blogged this.
	I don't think so, because I didn't see it anywhere.
	It was one of these esoteric CNBC shows.
	And they had...
	I'm sorry, are we done with all the donations?
	Yeah, we're done with the donations.
	I want to thank everybody again.
	Yeah, and I too thank everybody.
	Awesome.
	And on this show, let me just open it up here, and I've got to talk for a second while it downloads and crunches the Skype connection.
	This is probably one of the nighttime shows.
	Of course, no one watches CNBC at night, or maybe very early in the morning, which also very few people watch.
	And they had on the show a guy from Seattle, I guess a capital fund manager, Nine Points Capital Partners.
	Have you ever heard of them, John?
	Nope.
	Okay.
	Just listen to...
	So, of course, gold has gone through the roof.
	We're now $1,100 plus.
	And we started talking about gold when it was about $800 on this show 18 years ago.
	And he says, and this is on CNBC. Have you seen this clip, John?
	Do you know what I'm about to play?
	No, I have no idea.
	David Vickers, chief investment officer, nine points.
	Capital partner staying with us live out of Seattle, Washington.
	David, you guys are a hedge fund, and what you guys basically do is you try and catch breaks either to the up or downside.
	So first of all...
	It's like, who do you think is watching?
	Morons?
	Please explain the hedge fund.
	You guys basically try to catch the upside or the downside.
	Dude, isn't that what...
	CNBC. Thanks, dude.
	All right.
	Thanks.
	Appreciate it.
	A stock means you have a share of ownership of a corporation.
	Thanks for the info, dude.
	Also, with gold, you've done the timing for you, right, God?
	And just as it started to oil up past 75, gold past 1,000, are you going to sit on those positions then?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, for sure.
	You can think a lot about it and you can...
	Just stay with it for a second because it gets really good.
	One day and have all these vacillations psychologically, but this is the time to play ping pong, to get involved in model making or...
	Or do something for cock to show on the internet.
	Do something.
	Whatever you do, don't invest.
	Or something ridiculous.
	I mean, this is the time where you make money, where the trend develops.
	And so there's really not a lot to do with it.
	I mean, oil looks higher, gold looks higher, currencies look weaker, all for the reasons that we talked about before.
	I mean, you've got huge wage disparities.
	I don't know how that inevitably resolves itself.
	It may resolve itself in some type of a global currency crisis.
	And then if the global currency crisis unfolds, then inevitably you get, I guess, an alignment under a global world government, a new global currency, and a new world order.
	What?
	Who is this maniac?
	I love this guy.
	He's my new hero!
	Nobody's listening.
	You're probably the only guy that actually heard him.
	This is why you donate to this show.
	To hear these gems.
	This is beautiful.
	And they're showing the U.S. dollar.
	What is the other guy doing?
	Jerking off while he's listening to this?
	Yes.
	No, they're actually...
	They've already gotten him off screen.
	They're showing the U.S. dollar index, which, as you can imagine, goes down.
	Let's just listen to that again.
	That was beautiful.
	It was like all the things I've been telling you, he does it in one, in like 30 seconds.
	Crisis unfolds, then inevitably you get, I guess, an alignment under a global world government.
	Ding.
	Wait, wait, start it over.
	I got my ding here.
	Okay, okay, okay.
	Well, the Skype connection might be kind of weird.
	Let's see if we can do it.
	See if we can time it.
	So start when...
	The first thing he says is the global currency crisis.
	I need a ding for that.
	...that we talked about before.
	I mean, you've got huge wage disparities.
	I don't know how that inevitably resolves itself.
	It may resolve itself in some type of a global currency crisis.
	...
	And then if the global currency crisis unfolds, then inevitably you get, I guess, an alignment under a global world government, a new global currency, and a new world order.
	All the boxes are checked!
	We may be moving towards that.
	Talk a little bit more about this currency.
	Listen to his response!
	Listen to his response!
	This is the best!
	You're right, he was jerking off.
	He's like, is this guy done yet?
	Listen to him.
	...and a new world order.
	So, we may be moving towards that.
	Talk to us a little bit more about this currency crisis you see erupting.
	What?
	He went to the Shepard Smith School of Broadcasting.
	He doesn't say anything about this guy's crazy comments?
	They're not crazy.
	The guy's like, yup, yup, yup.
	That's right.
	That's what I see too.
	Funny thing.
	I just put on my put here.
	Yup, that's right.
	That's what he gets.
	Let's just do it.
	Currency crisis you see erupting.
	What does that assume about what's going to happen to the dollar?
	So, the world is coming to an end.
	We have a new world order, a global currency.
	Hey, how about that dollar?
	It's like, yeah, we got the world coming in, new currency, world domination, new world order, but I got a follow-up question.
	Yeah, it's on my paper here.
	Give me a break.
	What about that dollar?
	Do real investors watch CNBC? Who is this intended for?
	Real investors watch CNBC all day.
	Yeah, because they want to be in the game.
	No, I mean, it's basically in the offices of everybody.
	Oh yeah, it's on, yeah, but the sound is off.
	But believe me, when the market closes and maybe they watch some more stuff while they're cleaning their office up, then they're home watching Law& Order and the rest of it.
	Nobody watches CNBC, like you said, after 7 o'clock.
	But the sound is off, and all they're doing is like, oh, Aaron Burnett.
	Maria Bartiromo.
	That's what they're doing.
	When the door is closed and CNBC is on, they're pulling their pods to the money honeys.
	That's what it's all about.
	Well, it assumes that the dollar will utterly get destroyed and become virtually worthless.
	You know, we have a combined...
	Well, I mean, here's what we know.
	We know that if you can produce something, that this game that we have going on...
	Yeah, he's even saying it.
	It's a game.
	He has a game, which means he doesn't know the resolution of the game.
	He's just making it up as he goes along.
	He thinks he knows.
	I love the guy.
	Well, I'm not going to play any more of it, because now you're just going to harsh my mellow, and I was really feeling good about it.
	It was pretty funny.
	And you're right.
	You're probably like you and actually the people that now...
	Actually, probably CNBC, after you played that clip, probably had more listeners now that listen to No Agenda than listen to the original.
	It's a very small audience.
	Hey, maybe I should watch on CNBC from time to time.
	You know, Jared, one of our producers, sent me a link.
	So this is nothing we can really discuss, but it's a link.
	You know joelonsoftware.com?
	I'm sure you've heard of that.
	Well, joelonsoftware.com is kind of, there's forums, and it's Joel on Software talks about programming techniques and stuff.
	And so one of our producers, Jared, was surfing around the forums, and he found all these message threads from these guys who apparently are programming, and this is from 2008, who are programming the high-speed or the high-velocity trading programs for Goldman Sachs.
	And they're talking about how to use certain type of...
	Programming, algorithms.
	I'm quoting from this.
	One guy is asking the question, this is an arbitrage system.
	Increased speed is directly correlated to increased profit.
	Another guy in the discussion points out that it's for derivatives trading.
	Atlas says more, when I calculate a price of a CDO tranche, it gets expressed as contingent PV minus coupon times premium PV dash upfront.
	All these numbers are the order of about $40 million.
	I mean, it's amazing.
	They're not even hiding this shit.
	They're just in forums talking about it.
	And by the way, there's probably just really good programmers.
	There's really good guys, and I can't blame them.
	I know one guy, at least, who does this stuff.
	And they're amazing.
	They're like mercenaries.
	So I'll put that link in the show notes at noagendashow.com.
	It'd be kind of fun to read.
	And another link came from CNN. It makes no sense to play the audio.
	It's a video from another piece of really important news.
	New York subway.
	A woman fell onto the tracks and the train stops just inches before running it over.
	Have you seen this video, John?
	We ran it on the blog.
	But did you really see what was happening in the video?
	Yeah, when I was reading the comments, people were pointing out that there seemed to be some sort of facial recognition.
	Yeah, there's all these boxes that continue to follow people.
	The footage is from the security cameras, and it looks like they've got body recognition, biometrics, not just tracking faces, it's tracking individuals.
	It's pretty interesting.
	Yeah, I guess because you could probably put, like if you had this thing through some computer and they had a box around somebody, you could probably click on the box and then you could just follow them.
	And then I did my homework, John, and I'm happy that we got so much in donations this week, or at least a good start, because it's still not enough to quit the day job, although I think we're getting closer.
	I mean, I'm willing to take a salary cut just to do this full-time.
	It would be a whopper.
	Yeah, and that's true.
	Still, I hope Mickey's not listening.
	Yeah.
	Honey, I have good news and bad news.
	Good news, I'm doing no agenda full time.
	So I get to be home all day.
	Bad news, we're living in a box.
	You might be living in a box anyway, the way things are going there.
	No shit.
	So I read the Operation Iraqi Freedom Report from the GAO. I read through the whole thing, John.
	Oh good, I'm glad somebody did.
	Oh my god, it's a mess.
	They have no idea.
	They have contractors there, and I'll give you the link in the show notes.
	You can read through it yourself.
	Actually, I'll give you my highlighted version of the PDF. That'll be worth it.
	I highlighted things I just thought were outrageous.
	Oh, that's a good idea.
	That's a public service.
	Yeah, it is.
	That's worth a donation.
	So the observations at the end are so tame and compared to what's actually in the report.
	So I'll just give you the one paragraph from the concluding observations.
	As I've stated today, much has been done in Iraq and Kuwait to facilitate the drawdown effort.
	By the way, it's only 5,000 troops who have been drawn down so far.
	However, the effective execution of the drawdown may be compromised by several complex challenges.
	Notably, identification of contractor requirements needed for the drawdown.
	Dude, they have no idea if contractors are there.
	They don't know what they're doing.
	They don't even know what the contractors are supposed to be doing.
	They have millions of dollars worth of tools that no one knows who's supposed to be using them.
	It's all in this report.
	In that report, there's a whole section about how do we get our crap back.
	And this is my favorite.
	Let me see if I can...
	Oh, they have containers.
	Containers are really important to move stuff around.
	Here it is.
	According to U.S. Army Central officials, the data system in place to track containers is inaccurate and incomplete because, among other factors, it must manually be updated every time a container arrives at or leaves a specific location.
	Reports based on the data from this system indicate the system is at best 25% accurate.
	Wow.
	Of all containers.
	Furthermore, updates to the location and status of containers may not occur routinely because of personnel shortages.
	There's like 300,000 people there.
	For example, according to officials in charge of container management, 200 containers listed as located in Iraq were in fact in Afghanistan.
	Oops!
	Oops!
	What?
	Yes!
	So, subsequent reports indicate that approximately 54,000 containers had been physically inventoried as of August 2009, which was almost 25,000 fewer than the number of containers in the system.
	And they still don't know where they are.
	Of these containers entered into the data system, location of over 7,000 could not be verified, and the serviceability of 39% remained unknown.
	Shipping containers!
	Yeah, filled with stuff.
	Stuff!
	Like, money!
	You know, drugs!
	All kinds of interesting stuff.
	And how did 200 containers wind up in Afghanistan?
	Oops!
	Please.
	It's a joke.
	It's a joke.
	We need to just leave.
	Well, they can't.
	This is about leaving.
	They're literally saying we need to bring in more contractors.
	There's already over 120,000 contractors.
	If we bail and just leave the junk there and leave the contractors there and stop paying them and just get the heck out, we'll save money.
	No, no, no.
	Because we have to retrograde.
	This is the word used throughout the entire report.
	We have to retrograde all the equipment.
	And retrograde, as I looked it up, means render useless.
	Why?
	What's the point?
	Just leave it there.
	Basically, it's a great gift for the Iraqis and the Afghanis, a bunch of trucks and jeeps and guns and cranes, and God knows what's in these things.
	You know, money and whatever, everything in between, jugs, bottles, you know, who knows?
	Well, you'll like this then.
	The complexity of issues surrounding transfer authorities has already presented obstacles.
	For example, in May 2009, MNCI, whatever the hell that is, undertook an initiative to turn over the IBM Sina Hospital located in the international zone to the government of Iraq as a fully equipped, fully operational hospital.
	Great idea, John.
	This is what you're calling for, right?
	However, 100 of the approximately 9,800 pieces of equipment in the hospital, such as intensive care unit beds, trauma centers, and patient vital signs monitoring equipment, were ineligible for transfer because, Because, according to army officials, the army could not declare them as excess to the needs of the army.
	As a result, officials had to seek alternate means to transfer or sell the remaining pieces of equipment necessary to outfit the hospital.
	Ultimately, the hospital was transferred to the government of Iraq on schedule.
	However, it was done without those 100 remaining pieces of important equipment.
	Because, of course, someone sold them off to Abdullah there on the side of the road.
	Okay.
	Probably.
	The whole thing is a clusterfuck.
	And if you weren't pissed off that we were there killing people in the first place, your money is being mismanaged like nobody's business.
	In fact, they act like it's nobody's business.
	It's just unconscionable what is happening.
	Well, this is the reason the economy's in the tank.
	It's because there's billions of dollars being wasted.
	Literally wasted.
	And they're just going to render everything useless.
	They don't give it to the Iraqis.
	They've got to blow it up or retrograde.
	Retrograde.
	They've got to shoot.
	Yeah, you're right.
	They've got to take a bullet to it.
	Look up the word retrograde.
	I know what it means.
	Yeah, what is the definition of retrograde?
	It means to return to its original form.
	No, no, no, no, no.
	That's incorrect.
	That's incorrect.
	Retrograde.
	Hold on.
	Bitch.
	Aha!
	No, wait.
	No, I'm just trying to open up the dictionary.
	I know what a retrograde...
	Never mind.
	Retrograde.
	Retrograde.
	Reverting to an earlier and inferior condition.
	Yeah, junk.
	Yeah, you're right.
	That's what I said.
	Yeah, junk.
	You're right.
	So, on that note, I also...
	I did some more.
	And by the way, I'm also out here sucking advertiser cock in Chicago, like with my day job.
	I also reviewed the Copenhagen Treaty Convention.
	Oh, brother.
	Oh, man.
	This is going to be bad.
	We're going to have to talk about this on Sunday.
	Yeah.
	I think you're right.
	And that woman that headed the whole thing, where did they get her?
	She's like a journalist.
	Yeah, that is actually her credentials, isn't it?
	Yeah, she's like a TV reporter.
	She's a meat puppet.
	And she doesn't know anything about science from what I can tell.
	Maybe she was a science meat puppet.
	Ridiculous.
	So this is very, very difficult to read because it has all of these, basically they put in brackets multiple options of the language because they're still working on it.
	It's a draft.
	This is a fiasco.
	Actually, I think blood came out of my ear while I was on page 10.
	As I'm trying to figure out what is actually in here.
	But it's all filled with IPCC. Everything's based on the...
	It's all bull.
	And the thing is, if you look at the people that are in the committees that put this report or this thing together, this idea, this treaty, whatever they're supposed to call it, it's all Greenpeace people.
	None of them with a scientific background.
	Greenpeace, and there was some other organization that was just dominating the whole thing.
	The Concerned Scientists, which I guess there's some scientists in there, but it's like the Union of Concerned Scientists and Greenpeace guys, and they have representatives who are brain dead.
	Let me just read a couple relevant pieces that I highlighted.
	Acknowledging the findings of the fourth assessment report of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, IPCC, and more recent scientific information, by the way, not linked or mentioned in this report, that delay in reducing emissions significantly constrains opportunities to achieve low stabilization levels and increases the probability of severe climate change impacts and the consequent need for and cost of adaptation.
	Of all of this crap.
	It doesn't actually say that.
	And then here, as assessed by the IPCC in its fourth assessment report, warming of the climate system as a consequence of human activity is unequivocal.
	Global atmospheric concentrations of greenhouse gases have increased significantly because of human activities since 1750.
	Well, at least they have a date for it.
	Hey, what?
	At 1750, these two guys get together.
	Hey, what are you doing over there?
	I'm making some global warming.
	I'm like a piece of coal, and I'm just going to let it burn.
	If you live in low-lying countries, this is really cool.
	Either one or two things are going to happen.
	Here it is.
	Recognizing all developing countries, in particular low-lying and other small island countries, countries with low-lying coastal, arid, and semi-arid areas or areas liable to floods, drought, and desertification, and developing countries with fragile mountainous ecosystems are particularly vulnerable to the adverse effects of climate change.
	Hey, Holland, we are fucked!
	Ha ha ha!
	Holland's already underwater.
	What difference does it make?
	What's it going to do?
	What they're doing here is they're basically ramping up for the whole scare of tidal waves.
	They're ramping up to take our money.
	The thing that didn't work out with the timing on all this, you know, they started working on this, I mean, Gore started on this project years and years earlier, is they didn't expect the world economy to have collapsed.
	And now, it's because it's all coming to fruition right about now.
	I mean, the timing was that now is the time we're going to just steal the money from the United States and pass it off and drink, and let's all have a party.
	But, we've got no money left.
	We've got ourselves involved in a bunch of dumb wars that are bull, and they're just a complete waste, and then the economy collapsed, and we don't have any money to give these third wars.
	We're broke!
	Just take a look at the CIA fact book, and take a look at how much...
	We're like $700 trillion in the hole.
	We haven't got any money, folks.
	They should put yours.
	Get it from somebody else.
	Get it from France.
	Take it out of the EU. Hey, you know what?
	You make a good point.
	Has anyone from France ever donated...
	To our show?
	Yeah.
	I'm going to have to look in the database, but I don't recall anyone from France ever donating to the show.
	If no one from France has donated, then we're blaming them for everything on this show.
	I'll look it up.
	I know we've got a lot of Germans.
	We now have a Russian.
	We've got a lot of Brits, obviously, and a lot of Australians.
	And a lot of Dutch.
	A lot of Dutch.
	A lot of Dutch.
	Well, that's because of you.
	No, but they're switching on, thank God.
	And a lot of Dutch.
	And we have Belgium.
	We have Swiss.
	We have a lot of Italy.
	But the French.
	I don't remember hearing a French thing.
	And I'm like a Francophile, so I would have noticed.
	You've got to look out for those Frenchies, man.
	They should be paying for this global thing.
	At the same time, increased financial support and technology transfer to developing countries will help these countries in their implementation of the NAMA's, which is like the national whatever thingy.
	Let's just give them all our inventions to what we're at.
	Reducing the risk, I love this, of triggering or crossing tipping points that could result in abrupt climate change.
	Just like the movie.
	Yeah, exactly.
	Just like the movie, baby.
	Ah, shit, John.
	There's so much we didn't do.
	We didn't do any swine flu.
	Again.
	That's okay.
	The swine flu thing is that we're getting more good information so we can do swine flu on Sunday.
	You know, I think, you know, luckily we didn't do swine flu for the last couple of weeks.
	That may be the reason we got so much money.
	That's a good point.
	People saying, you know, those guys, they finally got off that swine flu thing with that jingle.
	Let's just play the jingle just so we can feel good, okay?
	It'll make us feel good.
	Because here's the problem.
	I know that people are actually taking showers in the morning and they're going...
	And they're like, holy crap, I'm singing their damn jingle.
	You have now been programmed.
	You will never be able to forget.
	It's a good jingle.
	I deprogram them at the same time.
	Did you hear me do that?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	So I don't actually want to mess with people.
	Well, we have to discuss that, but somebody mentioned to us, because we had that crazy thing where they had the two people saying, you know, or a guy saying two things at the same time.
	Yeah.
	We have to explain that in some detail.
	Somebody says, why don't you explain how that works?
	What's the deal?
	People want to know how NLP works, which is neuro-linguistic programming.
	Maybe we should leave it here.
	Words, first of all, are very, very important.
	You hear John and I listening very closely to what people are saying.
	And the beauty of this being an audio program only, or as Mickey calls it, our little radio show, is because you're not...
	She does.
	That little radio show you do.
	The radio show.
	No, she's a big fan.
	In fact, well, never mind.
	It's because you're not distracted by the visuals and hand motions, what people do.
	Eyebrows.
	Eyebrows are not just there to catch sweat off your brow.
	They're there to express the way eyebrows move up and down.
	All this is very important.
	These are ancient signals since man developed, you know, and we've just become these morons and we just sit there and soak up all this crap where all our brains are completely open in front of the television with...
	With a flicker rate, which, by the way, I think that's why they're going to ban flat-screen TVs is because we're not getting hypnotized enough.
	The flicker rate is no longer there.
	No flicker, so we've got to go back to tubes.
	I want to mention something now that you brought this whole thing up.
	One of the things, in fact, I didn't even think about it until you started bringing it up, which is the fact that when we do those clips, when we start to deconstruct TV shows like Law& Order, you point out that the acting is so terrible that you don't notice it when you're watching the show because of all these other cues you're getting and you're actually convinced that they're actually doing something.
	It's not so horribly blocky.
	Yeah.
	And you can hear how bad it is.
	And that's the advantage of doing the show this way as opposed to doing it on video.
	People say, why don't you do a video version?
	Because you would be distracted from what we're trying to make you concentrate on, which is the words and you want you to think a little deeper.
	Radio has a different effect on you than TV does.
	McLuhan would talk about this.
	One's a hot medium, one's a cool medium.
	So let's pick up on this.
	Let's make sure that on the next show we talk a little...
	We should always be telling you how the programming works because your brain is being programmed.
	And you're right, John.
	There's some really bad acting.
	You want to hear some really bad acting?
	Yeah.
	Some really bad acting?
	Hey, hey.
	That's what I'm talking about.
	Are you even paying attention?
	You need to focus.
	Your work is lackluster.
	I want you to get your spark back.
	Okay.
	Well, you're awesome, by the way.
	You are awesome.
	That's a little thing between the two.
	Well, I have to take part in the bad acting scene once in a while.
	It's highly appreciated.
	We didn't pay you for that, did we?
	No, I didn't even get scale.
	I'm telling you, the tech crotch is going to have something to say about that.
	But Nick did buy you beer and hookers.
	At least he got my credit card now.
	He took the hookers, apparently.
	I don't remember this.
	All right, and we'll also talk about V on the next episode because I did watch, and I guess the only thing I can say is, I believe!
	Yeah, we do have to talk about V. We totally got to talk about it.
	Mickey actually came up with an amazing theory, which she kept me up at night with her theory about it.
	Well, we saw the second episode yesterday.
	Well, don't tell me because I've got it DVR'd.
	Okay.
	I'm not going to watch it anymore, by the way.
	I'm sick of it.
	Oh, no.
	I'm hooked.
	Oh.
	Okay, I could be watching Shepard Smith.
	You're right.
	But I think I'll opt out one day a week.
	Hannity.
	Must watch Hannity.
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