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	Does it require you have to go to a seminar where you have to sit down for hours and not take a leak?
	Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak.
	It's November 8th, 2009.
	Time for your Gitmo Nation Media Assassination Episode 146.
	This is no agenda.
	We're looking over here while you're looking over there.
	And coming to you from the minimum security containment cell in Gitmo Nation West, San Francisco, California.
	In the morning, I'm Adam Curry.
	And I'm John C. Dvorak.
	It's Crackpot and Buzzkill!
	In the morning!
	Hey, thanks, John.
	I always like a little surprise.
	I thought I wanted to see if you were quick on the draw.
	Well, not bad.
	No, actually, you hit it okay, except for the fact that you made a sound.
	Yeah, that I went...
	So Taylor Swift was on Saturday Night Live apparently last night.
	We missed it.
	You know, I was going to tell you, it's actually going to be one of my first topics for this morning.
	Yesterday, or last night, I was looking at trending topics on Twitter.
	I like that a lot because it's kind of like a pulse...
	You know, the nation of the universe, what people are talking about.
	And so, of course, a couple of interesting things have happened.
	Yesterday, a monumental bill was passed in the Senate, and I look at the trending topics.
	I'm going from the top of the list down.
	Top of the list is three words after sex.
	Then there's SNL, Taylor Swift, and then healthcare reform.
	It's just like, I'm so happy we have our priorities completely set straight here.
	Yeah, I think we nailed it.
	So, yeah, I didn't see it, obviously.
	I did watch some of the debate yesterday.
	Actually, quite a lot of the debate yesterday.
	It was dreadful.
	Yeah, it's Mickey's hair.
	We went to a benefit dinner last night, and Mickey's hairdresser, Will, came in.
	And they're like, what is this boring stuff you're watching?
	Who are these old guys being so boring?
	I said, yeah, that's your government at work, dude.
	Well, I don't want to say anything bad about hairdressers.
	It was pretty boring, actually.
	Yeah, no, it was, because this debate has already taken place.
	I mean, it's just a rerun.
	There was these two guys.
	I didn't send you this clip, but these two guys.
	It was amazing.
	It was two Republicans.
	It was 10 p.m.
	Eastern time, and they had the whole house to themselves.
	And I guess some bored guy had to stay there with his gavel.
	What time did it end?
	Well, this was something else.
	I don't know what time it ended.
	I don't know.
	Did you watch any of the coverage yesterday?
	Personally, I was enthralled.
	I'm like, oh man, this is so interesting how this is happening.
	People are just saying, they're going, yes, no, did to, did not.
	And then they vote.
	I don't get it.
	It's weird.
	Yeah, well, I don't know.
	We're going to have to let it shake out.
	Go over this bill.
	They still have to, you know, it's still not the final.
	Oh, okay.
	Hold on.
	First of all, before we move another muscle, who is today's executive producer, John?
	Yes.
	Today's executive producer, and thanks for reminding me, is the inimitable James Briscoe, as he likes to put it, our one listener on Gitmo Island, Long Island, Gitmo Long Island.
	Okay.
	Long Gitmo Island, whatever you want to call it in the little town of Bayshore.
	Oh, nice.
	And he gave us 23363 with a rather long explanation, which I can read now or later.
	And I think I'll save it for the rundown of the other contributors.
	Yeah, but let's thank him very much for being this episode's executive producer.
	You can put that on your resume as executive producer of No Agenda, episode 146, starring John C. Dvorak and Adam Curry in a cast of thousands.
	It might get you work.
	He's given us money before.
	It seems to me that he doesn't need work.
	Really?
	He's a generous guy.
	But he's apparently a, he's something of, I don't want to disparage anybody, but he's something of a nerd geek.
	Because he has a, he obviously is, he has an explanation for this odd amount that...
	Well, we'll get to it later on.
	Defies all logic, but anyway.
	And I also want to thank, or maybe not just thank, but also, well, thank and inform people who have donated to this show.
	Last night I took $1,000 of no agenda donations and gave that to the Interplast Foundation.
	So they're very happy with that.
	Let's Interplast explain.
	Interplast is a very interesting organization.
	They've been around for 40 years, and what they do is mainly in third world countries.
	It's funny.
	It's an organization where plastic surgeons, who don't only just do Hollywood-wise, believe it or not.
	There are some people who actually need corrective surgery because they look pretty messed up.
	They go to third world countries and they perform surgeries on children who have cleft lips and burns, particularly in many countries in Africa.
	If you're born with a cleft lip, then everyone has the same name if they have a cleft lip, which is Ajok.
	And that means a curse by God.
	And so these kids can't go to school.
	They have no future, etc.
	And so they perform about, I think, 6,000 surgeries a year.
	And I like the organization because there's no bullshit.
	There's no...
	They do a dinner like this and it's all about raising money.
	There's no show.
	It's just, boom, here are the people who are doing the work.
	And they raised $730,000 last night.
	It's pretty outstanding, yeah.
	It was more than they raised last year, even, in this economy.
	And it was good.
	I like it.
	Mickey's Foundation actually gave a whole shitload of money.
	She had one of those giant checks.
	That's the checks you guys use anyway.
	Yeah, those really big checks.
	No, but she really had an enlarged check, which of course I had to carry around all night.
	So her foundation gave out a huge amount of money.
	It was fun.
	But anyway, I thought I'd take some of the no agenda money and put it towards that.
	Good.
	So what's, uh...
	And you didn't see Taylor Swift.
	Did you get to watch him?
	No, no.
	So unfortunately, I was out doing good, John.
	I'm sorry I missed Taylor Swift.
	Yeah, you have a VCR. A VCR. No, you have the VCR. I, however, have high cutting-edge technology.
	Yeah.
	You still have Betamax.
	I don't care!
	I don't want to watch Taylor Swift.
	I don't.
	I don't like her.
	I have to admit, the songs are kind of cute when you hear them on the radio.
	I listen to The Wolf.
	95.7 FM. It's the Wolf.
	That's the new country station in San Francisco.
	I've never heard of it.
	Oh, it's a great station.
	It's almost like 80s rock music because that's where all the rockers went is the country.
	It's the only radio that will still play kind of rock.
	That's what country has become.
	Did you see V? You mean the series?
	Yeah, it just started this week.
	Oh, is it a new series?
	It's back?
	We're taking bets on whether you actually saw it.
	I know.
	I remember V from like 15 years ago.
	I made a dub of the show.
	Who was taking bets?
	Everybody.
	Because it's about, it's essentially, it's like a metaphor for Obama.
	They come down talking about hope and healthcare.
	We're going to bring a universal healthcare.
	What is it air on?
	It's on ABC. I can't wait.
	These aliens are all lizards, by the way.
	But this is...
	I thought this had already...
	This has been on television a decade ago.
	I mean, am I wrong?
	More 20 years?
	Try 20 years ago.
	But is it the same series, or is it a new version?
	It's a new version completely built from scratch, and it's a different kind of subject.
	Well, I'm sorry, John.
	I'm watching C-SPAN trying to get some information about what's happening with the country, and you're watching V. I went out of my way to just dub a copy.
	So anyway, I have a copy for you.
	You can watch it later.
	But I'm not going to watch it.
	It sucks, okay?
	So let's start with that.
	Okay, well then why would you want me to watch it?
	Because it's a bunch of propaganda that's very interesting.
	I think you get a kick out of it.
	There's a big debate going online about whether or not this is a pro-Obama or anti-Obama series.
	Oh, okay.
	I'm sorry.
	I'm not in touch.
	I'm out there doing good for the world.
	There's lizards.
	There's David Ike, not Ikey.
	It's reptiles.
	It's not lizards.
	It's reptiles.
	They're reptilian.
	And they're hot looking.
	Oh, are they milfy?
	Milfy reptiles.
	So, there's that.
	I like it.
	I like it.
	So I win the bet.
	Anyway, so...
	How much did you win?
	$5,000.
	Hold on, let me mark that.
	That will be good for the beginning of the show.
	I just got to keep marking stuff.
	All right.
	Well, we got our main topics.
	We can do a little Iraqi freedom.
	There's a new government report.
	I just sent you a copy of it, PDF, floating around.
	Operation Iraqi Freedom, preliminary observations on DOD planning for the drawdown of U.S. forces from Iraq.
	This is from the GAO, the General Accounting Office.
	Hold on, I'm bringing it up right now.
	And this came out when?
	I love reading these reports.
	Yeah, no, these reports are good.
	They're very well done.
	This came out on November 2nd and it's all about the drawdown.
	Nobody, of course, is reporting on this.
	I mean, why would journalists actually read this?
	I mean, that seems like actual work.
	It is work, in fact.
	But the listeners will have access to it.
	One of the Twitterers, by the way, sent this in.
	And people can read it at their leisure.
	So, have you read it yet?
	By the way, this is something interesting to me.
	You know, you read these newspapers and they'll talk about this report.
	They'll never give you a link to it.
	Never a link.
	Never, ever a link.
	It's not hard to find, thanks to Google, but I totally agree.
	I was reading the New York Times this morning online because I wanted to catch up on what happened with the vote for the 3692, I think.
	Is it 3692 or 3962?
	Whatever.
	The health care bill.
	The making shit better for Americans.
	And exactly the same thing.
	There's not even a link to the actual bill.
	I have to go Googling that.
	It's like the New York Times doesn't even provide that link.
	It seems lame.
	I know where it comes from.
	I've been there and done that.
	It's these editors and the guys who run these things.
	They don't know how online works, which is, of course, why they're all going out of business.
	They say, oh, no, once they leave the site, they'll never come back!
	Do you remember when, and I'm talking 95, 96...
	At the time, the company I had then, we'd talk with the Tribune Company in Chicago and New York Times, and we were trying to tell them, like, you know, your lunch is going to be eaten.
	In fact, it's happening right in front of you, and mainly it's your classifieds, but oh yeah, maybe you'd like to get some real news stuff working online.
	And they didn't have internet access.
	They had this proprietary system with these really funky terminals.
	Do you remember that?
	Yeah, I can tell you the name of those things in a minute.
	You probably have one still.
	No, I never used those things.
	I always used regular computers.
	Even in the 80s, I always would find the...
	I was writing for the Examiner.
	I was also writing for a bunch of...
	Communist newspaper.
	I would always find the IT guy and say, how can I just inject my stuff right into the system?
	Yeah.
	And they always gave me a code and an access phone number.
	And I've been filing electronically since 1980.
	Oh, so you modem in?
	Yeah.
	Cool.
	You needed a bunch of screwball codes that they tell you what they were, like how you end the paragraph, you had to put these different things in.
	Of course, you had to open a terminal session, first of all, after you initiated your slip or PPP connection.
	Remember those?
	No, actually, that wasn't the way it was done.
	Do you remember when we used to have to log into the internet, you'd have to dial in...
	This is pre-internet.
	This is direct call-in.
	No, no, no.
	What you were doing, but I remember early days of internet, you had to dial in, you got a Unix shell account, and then you had to initiate the slip connection, and then you had to start your stack.
	It's gotten so much better.
	Yeah, I'd say.
	Yeah, but anyway, so they were on proprietary systems well into the late 90s.
	They didn't even have internet access at these companies, and you're absolutely right.
	Oh, don't put any links because they'll leave the site, whereas what we found out is that if you actually put links on your weblog, etc., and you send people away, that's when they actually do come back.
	They're like, hey, this is a place that will find interesting shit for me to look at.
	Duh.
	Links are the currency of the internet.
	I don't get it.
	To this day, the fact that you're still reading the New York Times, some of the online writers on the New York Times managed to get a lot of links in that link away.
	But the mainstream reporters, they don't do it.
	Why should I put a link?
	I'm going to report on it.
	I am going to say what I think of it.
	I will give the people the information.
	No one else needs to have access to the core data.
	This notion that you're a gateway to the information is ridiculous.
	When people can see these things for themselves, I'm always amused by it.
	And the reports, they quote from the report, and they do this, and then they never give you the report to look at.
	They could be taking stuff out of context, for all you know.
	And often they are.
	Or at least it's an interpretation.
	Absolutely.
	Do you remember the name of the terminal yet, just for Prosperity State?
	Well, there was one terminal.
	This isn't the main one, but there was also a thing called the Bubble Terminal, which was, I think, the remote ones that they take on the road.
	But I'm thinking of, it was a whole system.
	And it'll come to me probably before the end of the show.
	Okay.
	So, yeah, we could talk about a number of things.
	We don't have to dive straight into headlines, necessarily.
	I wanted to ask you one thing before we actually get started with real news.
	Have you heard of the GTD system, getting things done?
	Is this another book you just read?
	No, I didn't read the book.
	It does stem from a book, but it's a way of organizing time management.
	I've read all the books, the seven tips from five million highly successful people, how to organize, what color is my parachute, all that crap.
	But this one, I kept reading about GTD. In fact, I was reading about it in all these app stores for the G-Phone and the iPhone.
	I'm like, what is this GTD that people are raving about?
	If you Google GTD, which is the abbreviation for Getting Things Done...
	There's millions of links and there's all these different software programs and websites that apply this systemology.
	And I'm pretty unorganized.
	And I'd have to say...
	Are you unorganized or disorganized?
	Yes.
	Whatever it is, you're worse.
	Oh, yeah.
	I'm not denying it.
	No, no, no.
	So I guess it would be...
	Well, what is it?
	What is the difference between unorganized and disorganized?
	I don't know.
	I just threw it out there to try to humiliate you.
	Thank you.
	Well, I think I'm probably both.
	I think it disorganizes the word you want.
	Unorganized, I think it means the same thing, but I don't think anyone uses unorganized, except maybe you.
	Okay, well, let me be disorganized then for sake of conversation.
	But I've been applying this methodology, and I've got to say, it's kind of working.
	Have you ever tried any of these?
	Yeah, I've tried them and then after a while I kind of forget how they work and then it falls apart again.
	So you're recommending this to me?
	Well, I'm in day three of this and I recommend you at least give it a try.
	There's actually a million different software packages that apply to this.
	Does it require you have to go to a seminar where you have to sit down for hours and not take a leak?
	No.
	Wait a minute.
	That's another one I got to mark.
	No, no, it doesn't require that.
	The idea is reasonably simple.
	It just splits it up into four different steps.
	The first one is collecting shit, which I think you and I are both good at.
	It's, oh yeah, oh yeah, I've got to talk about this.
	Oh, I've got to do this.
	Oh, I've got to call that guy.
	So one is collecting stuff.
	Then you make decisions about not when you're going to do it, but what context you might want to attack this particular task.
	And then you basically review stuff on a periodic basis.
	I mean, I'm not going to sit here and explain the whole thing.
	I was wondering if you'd heard about it.
	No.
	It's very, very interesting.
	I'll send you, there's like a white paper.
	Just read the first paragraph.
	In fact, I'll put that in the show notes.
	Read the first paragraph and you kind of get the idea.
	But I'm using a Mac program.
	Does it involve changing your diet or hypnosis?
	No.
	No, it does not.
	No!
	It's simple, and it's good for disorganized people like you and I. I think it's pretty cool.
	I'm using OmniFocus on the Mac to apply this theory, and so far I'm pretty happy.
	But you've only been doing it for three days.
	Yeah, but I did have the milk for the pancakes this morning.
	Oh.
	So it works.
	It works.
	I bought milk.
	It works.
	I love the system.
	I actually, I put my underwear on the right way.
	Check.
	Well, you're Mr.
	List.
	I like lists.
	I always tell people when they screw up that, where's your list?
	Where's your checklist?
	So if you like lists, you'll like getting things done.
	It's based on lists, only the system kind of organizes the shit for you, and instead of like, oh...
	Because, you know, I bet you have a million lists that you haven't checked everything off.
	Yeah, I have a list of lists.
	This is good stuff, man.
	Getting things done.
	GTD. Google it.
	I could use the help.
	I'm not so stuffy that I wouldn't say maybe something like this works.
	In fact, I'm pretty amazed that you hadn't heard of it.
	I don't know a lot of things.
	I do know one thing.
	I did make a little list of things we were supposed to talk about last week and didn't talk about this week, including my experience at Canadian Customs.
	Oh yes, please do tell.
	So what a bunch of dicks those guys are.
	You think our people are bad?
	Now is this customs or TSA? Because there's a distinct difference.
	Okay.
	Custom guys were jerks, but they weren't as bad.
	The TSA in Canada is worse than ours.
	Do they wear those Mountie hats?
	No.
	No, they should.
	So I go through there and they're like, you know, they got all the wands and they're making you do this.
	The funny thing is they don't make you take your shoes off, but everything else has got to go.
	Wait a minute.
	They don't make you take your shoes off?
	Isn't that like a violation of some secret airport security code?
	I mean, you could be a shoe bomber for all I know.
	As long as the shoes don't beep, I guess.
	Well, you have those Crocs that you always wear.
	Dorks.
	Let's get it straight.
	Dorks.
	Not Crocs.
	Dorks.
	And they're not Crocs.
	They're Speedos.
	Nuff said.
	Well, I always say, yeah, I wear Speedos to work.
	I amuse myself with that line, by the way.
	Yeah.
	So anyway, so I went in there and they're like checking through this and that and then x-ray and this and that and the other thing.
	And they're, you know, they're putting the bag through two or three times and they bring out the, they brought out the, and they're slow, really slow.
	And, you know, and then somebody pre-grills you before the stuff goes into the machine.
	So they have a pre-screening process.
	Yeah, like the Israelis have, and you go to Israel, they basically ask a million questions.
	But that's only if you fly LL. Actually, I was on TWA and had that experience.
	Well, TWA at the time was owned by an Israeli, so it's kind of the same thing.
	So anyway, I'm going through, and so the thing that was funny to watch, because they saw my, you know, I had to pull out the bag full of whatever, you know.
	Don't tell us what was in the bag, John.
	You know, toothpastes and...
	Oh, your four ounces or less baggy.
	Yeah, 3.2 ounces, I believe, 100 milliliters.
	You know, that's interesting because it is 100 milliliters in Europe, but in the U.S. they say 4 ounces.
	No, no, it's 3.2 ounces.
	It's not 4 ounces.
	Are you sure?
	Yeah, which is 100 milliliters.
	It's exactly the same amount.
	I'm going to look that up.
	Look it up while I'm giving you the story.
	So I have this shave foam can that is huge!
	And so this thing goes through.
	First, I had to pull it out of my regular suitcase, even though I rarely do that, because most guys just, yeah, who cares?
	But anyway, so I pull it out and put it through the bag.
	And so this big, this thing flies through, and there's this big, and this woman, I swear to God, her eyes just bold, like she's got me.
	I've got one.
	I've got one.
	I get to reprimand somebody for bringing in a can or something, and then I get to steal the can and take it home.
	But it turns out to be a can.
	So she can shave her beard.
	So it turns out to be just a can of shape foam with a bladder in it because it's got no aerosols and so it's kind of oversized but it's very clearly I bought it in England actually and it's very clear on the side it says 75 milliliters which is way under so I so I've never seen it's like she heard she was depressed it was she just dropped she went aww aww crap aww bummer it's 3.4 ounces Okay, 3.4.
	Anyway, she was bummed.
	Damn!
	Damn, I almost had him!
	And then she takes forever to give me this stuff back, because I'm not like you yelling at me.
	Here it is.
	And then they take him around out back, and then...
	I've been waiting to play that.
	Yeah, you'll be playing it a lot, I'm sure.
	Yeah, definitely.
	Alright, so they're waiting forever to give it back to you.
	Yeah, and then they tell me I can go.
	But their attitude was actually worse than ours.
	And do you think that they have the same type of training?
	It's the same boneheads?
	It looks like they all come out of the same cookie cutter.
	There was an excellent article by a former cop, someone sent it to me a couple weeks ago, who was actually skilled in interrogation processes.
	And she started saying, when you have to go through the puffer machine, she started saying, do I have the right to refuse?
	And the minute you do that, they freak out.
	But then they start doing searches, and she says that their search techniques are all wrong.
	They're probably not even trained in body searches.
	It's so bad.
	Oh, really?
	Yeah.
	Oh, that's interesting.
	I never thought about that.
	Yeah.
	Does that make sense?
	Because all they have is the wand.
	They go up and down and pat you here and there and tickle you.
	Well, even the pat-down is supposed to happen in a certain way, with the back of the hand, never with the palm.
	So there's all these specific ways.
	And she was just astounded at how poorly they are.
	Because people rarely request a pat-down instead of going through the machine.
	And the minute you do that, they get all flustered.
	And they're like, well, I have to call a supervisor over.
	And you do have the right to actually ask for a pat-down instead.
	There's signs everywhere, at least at U.S. airports.
	I'll send you another one.
	I've got to write this down.
	Another thing I'll put in the show notes.
	It was a very interesting story.
	I didn't think to bring it up the other day, but now that you're talking about the Canadian TSA, what are they called, actually, the TSA in Canada?
	I don't know.
	Le TSA? I have no idea.
	I didn't ask.
	I was too worked to even have a conversation.
	So you found it irritating.
	It was very annoying.
	I'm sure the Canadians feel the same way about our version of the same thing, but it's like, you know, going to Canada for God's sake.
	Well, you'll never do that again.
	No, I like Canada.
	I like going there.
	We have Canadians who give us money, and the Canadians, and I like seeing what they're up to, although I think they're getting brainwashed horribly, but I think they have to really be inundated because the Canadians are actually kind of cynical.
	Well, for those of you who are from Canada, who are brand new to No Agenda, our formula is very simple.
	It works like this.
	Our formula is this.
	We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
	Yeah, sometimes we even do it to TSA. But then in kind of like a non-literal sense.
	Yes.
	So, we also have somebody who wrote in complaining that we, or asking or requesting, not complaining, but requesting that we somewhere, or somebody, or maybe somebody should volunteer to do this, which is to post an extremely low bit rate version of the show.
	Why?
	Well, this guy apparently lives in the middle of nowhere, out back of Australia or someplace, where he has nothing but dial-up, and he says he can barely get the show as it is, even though he's got somebody, I guess somebody did it, low bit-rated it for him, so you have a small file.
	I think it's a minor audience.
	Well, I wouldn't mind serving the audience, without a doubt.
	It's just a matter of time.
	Post-show, after we're done recording, it takes forever to do all this shit.
	I think we can have somebody out there volunteer to put up a little site of low bit rate, no agenda, and just recode it for us and just post it for people like this guy.
	Yeah, although it actually would be better if we did a low bit rate from the original file, because I record the show in AIFF, so that's high, you know, uncompressed quality.
	And then it would be better to do it from that instead of from the compressed MP3, which is already, you know, what are we doing, 64 kilobits?
	That's already pretty low.
	That's really low, yeah.
	But he wants like 10 kilobits.
	This is the guy with the Betamax, right?
	Yeah, well, if someone out there would do it for us, whatever I can set up to help, I'd be happy to do it.
	I'm still trying to get the links to work right on our Squarespace site, and this is freaking me out.
	Yeah, they should be cut and pastable.
	That's what I'm doing.
	I'm cutting and pasting.
	Now I have to go create all HTML. It's something with Squarespace or maybe it's something with the Mevio.
	I don't know what it is.
	We'll resolve it eventually.
	Yes.
	It'll fix itself.
	John and I, our theory is simple.
	It'll fix itself eventually.
	Someone will make it work.
	And it always does.
	Yes, eventually it does.
	All right.
	You've got some clips, John.
	Let's do some clips.
	All right.
	Let's see.
	What do we have here?
	Let's start with our friends.
	You know, the propaganda machine called Law& Order, which, by the way, is now having two messages per show, because I think that Dick Wolf realizes NBC is close to going down the tubes because of their Jay Leno strategy.
	And, you know, the other thing that's going on with Jay Leno and his strategy is that the Jay Leno show is being boycotted by a lot of actors and actresses and directors.
	Oh, do tell.
	Why?
	Why?
	Well, because they took the 10 o'clock drama spot.
	Oh, of course.
	They took the drama off.
	Right, right.
	Away from...
	And that means people lose a lot of work.
	They get to go on the Leno show for scale, you know, 300 bucks or whatever they pay.
	So you're telling me that the actors and directors and maybe perhaps even the guilds are actually saying, we're going to punish NBC... By not even promoting the stuff that we do do?
	Because it's competing against the 10 o'clock hour on the other two networks.
	The other two networks basically said, hey...
	Uh-oh.
	John?
	Don't Leno show.
	Yeah, you dropped out for a second.
	And this is kind of just desserts because when Leno first got his gig when he managed to get Carson to quit, his manager was blackballing everybody who did anybody else's show for over a year.
	That competition was huge.
	I remember that.
	If you went on Letterman, then you forget about it.
	You wouldn't appear on Leno for two years or whatever.
	Yeah, so that was, you know, so now he's getting it back, but with actual rationale rather than just an out-and-out blackball, there's a real good reason for it.
	So meanwhile, it seems to me that Dick Wolf is, because like, I think it was last, it was during the week, maybe it was Thursday, or Tuesday, one of them, they had like back-to-back law and orders, the regular law and order, the old one, back-to-back, that were both new.
	Let's have a New Law and Order at 8.
	Let's have a New Law and Order at 9.
	And what does that air on?
	What network?
	NBC. Again, New Law and Order used to be one of the 10 o'clock dramas.
	So now it's 8 o'clock.
	It's 8 o'clock or 9 o'clock, but whatever it is, it's not when people expect it.
	And, you know, the whole network is losing out on this crazy scheme.
	Although, I looked at the numbers, you know, NBC Universal, so that's the entertainment unit of General Electric, who, of course, make all of our army shit.
	They had like $118 million in profit.
	They were the most profitable unit of General Electric, which I can only presume is because they reduced costs so drastically by cutting out all the drama shows, but they're trying to sell it.
	They're trying to get rid of that.
	I heard that.
	So anyway, so now we're seeing two messages, because I figure Wolf is just going for it, but he gets his talking points from the White House, and here we go.
	So here are the...
	But I found one of the new messages that's kind of interesting.
	Play the NYC number one clip.
	Now?
	Yeah.
	Frank says you haven't been eating since the chemo started.
	You two been talking behind my back?
	Point is I got this friend back in Burlington.
	A nurse had a cancer ward.
	She gave me something that might help.
	Tell me that's not what it looks like.
	It's medical marijuana.
	Legal in Vermont.
	And still a crime in New York.
	I raised you better than that.
	Wow.
	Okay, so they brought that out.
	This is pretty consistent with what's been happening.
	Recently, all of a sudden, it's like, oh, the feds are going to ease back and medical marijuana is going to be okay.
	I think they just harvested too much and the military transport was filled with too much weed and they had to do something.
	They've got to move the product.
	It doesn't get any better, you know?
	Hey, call Wolf, man.
	Tell him to put some shit in that show of his so people start smoking that.
	So the next scene, which is the NYC 2 clip, has her, you know, she's this path, whatever her name is, the actress that plays the chief or the head inspector or the boss.
	She has cancer, cervical cancer, by the way.
	Oh, let me guess.
	And we already had the episode where they asked, she said, well, if you'd have taken the vaccine, you would have got this.
	Which now, of course, we know the vaccine doesn't really do anything.
	So now she's having to take you in chemo, so they're trying to get her to smoke dope.
	So now I guess she's smoking it, and the chief of police comes wandering in.
	With one of the best lines, I think, but you have to, when it's at the end of the clip, one of the best lines I think I've ever heard on a law and order.
	But you can play it, because this is kind of the twist.
	This is kind of the strange turn of events, propagandistically and otherwise.
	And I'd just like to correct you, it's not weed, it's the holy herb.
	Hit it.
	Chief!
	Can you fellas give us a minute?
	Sure.
	Well, it came back to me that someone in the building smelled marijuana on you.
	Are you out of your mind?
	You have 22 years in, a pension.
	Chief, I can explain.
	Save it.
	These mints could take bark off a tree.
	They'll clear your breath.
	Okay.
	I need to get me some of them mints.
	Power and change your clothes after you smoke.
	This guy sells medicinal dope.
	He's careful and discreet.
	We clear?
	Yeah, sure.
	Chief?
	Ball cancer.
	Three years ago.
	That stuff got me through it.
	Did he say ball cancer?
	That's a good line.
	Ball cancer.
	Ball cancer.
	Three years ago.
	Do I understand the storyline properly that a cop has cancer and is smoking medical marijuana?
	Is that what I'm understanding?
	Yeah.
	That's obviously a problem because it does impair your ability to shoot.
	She's an office cop.
	Oh, okay.
	Alright.
	So she's just doing paperwork.
	Pretty much.
	Hey!
	I got some tickets here.
	Ball cancer.
	Ball cancer.
	And the way he says it, by the way, they might have said the shooter, because it's not just ball cancer, it's ball cancer.
	That's because, of course, NBC and Dick Wolf are very smart.
	They know the typical viewer of these programs don't understand what the word testicle means, so they have to use the word that people know.
	Balls.
	Oh, like a fucking thing between your legs, right?
	What's that testicle testicle thing?
	It's smart.
	Just on Law& Order, one of our producers sent me a note saying, hey, you know, you guys were talking about the abortion episode.
	Remember that one that we played clips from?
	He thought that perhaps yesterday, part of the big debate on the health care bill was actually about the abortion issue.
	And so he said, hey, maybe that was why they knew that this was coming up and this was going to be a big problem or a big part of the bill and concessions had to be made and maybe that's why they started messaging that in law and order.
	That could be.
	There's some abortion amendment I know floating around.
	Well, no, it was a huge issue.
	Apparently, most of yesterday's debate, when it really came down to it, was about government-funded abortions.
	Yeah, and that has been brought back or restricted.
	I don't know where to read what they actually talked about.
	Where can I find the action?
	When is the final final?
	This is not the final, John?
	I thought that it was now done.
	It's over.
	We have another round to go?
	I don't know.
	Unless this is the bill that came from the Senate and now is being approved by the House, I don't think so.
	Okay, so it goes House to the Senate to the Senate to the House?
	Put your right foot in, take your left foot out?
	Normally it goes from the House to the Senate to the President.
	Right, but then how can you say it's not...
	Well, the Senate dreamed up some bill recently.
	Okay, wait a minute.
	So you have the House bill, you've got the Senate bill, now they have to be merged and then there's another vote?
	Is that the deal?
	Generally.
	Well, I thought, but you just said, usually the House goes to the Senate.
	I don't know.
	I mean, the way they're doing this one is beyond me.
	But you're a political scientist.
	You should know these things.
	They write a bill.
	It goes to the House.
	They send it over to the Senate.
	And the Senate says, you know, we're going to change it to this, that.
	We can approve this.
	Is it okay with you guys at the House?
	They say, yeah, sure.
	And boom, it goes to the President.
	He signs it.
	The thing becomes law.
	So isn't that what's supposed to happen next?
	This is the most complicated process I've ever seen.
	I don't know what they're up to.
	I can't figure it out.
	Well, if you can't figure it out, then we're lost.
	No, we're not.
	Well, I don't get it!
	I mean, you just told me this was not the final thing.
	Now you've confused me.
	I thought it was done.
	As far as I know, it's not the final thing.
	I could be wrong.
	John, before...
	It's a slow, complicated process.
	Before we go any further.
	And then it also has to go to these finance committees to make sure that they can afford it.
	You know, it's the whole thing.
	I don't know.
	I thought that this was all taken care of.
	I mean, this is very confusing.
	They've got amendments they've got to put in, and it's got to go back and be checked for its numbers.
	Okay, so this is not the final, final, final, final.
	There will be yet another document that we can read so we actually know what it means.
	I'm guessing yes.
	Or is that going to be one of those documents that says in line 32, referencing this, you have to go back and forth between 18 million documents.
	Oh, I hate that so much.
	And now, back to Real News.
	I'm sorry, John, I have to interrupt the flow here to bring you some real news as Glamour Magazine has announced their Women of the Year for 2009.
	These are the women who have contributed to just outstanding contributions to society and the advancement of women in general.
	These are the heroes of today's woman.
	I'd like to bring you the list, as I'm sure you will agree with many of them, but not all.
	Would you like to hear that Women of the Year 2009 is voted by Glamour Magazine?
	Oh, I'm on pins and needles.
	Number one!
	Woman of the Year is none other than Rihanna!
	What?
	Yeah, do you know who she is?
	She's a singer?
	Yes.
	What makes her a Woman of the Year?
	Because her boyfriend, Chris Brown, beat her in the face.
	Then you become Woman of the Year.
	Oh, no, that's the woman who got beat up.
	Yes.
	Yeah.
	So now you're a strong woman.
	Her face looks fine now.
	So good job.
	You took a beating and you're still there, Rihanna.
	Number two is Maria Shriver, who is just a Kennedy.
	Right?
	That's enough to become Woman of the Year.
	I think that's enough.
	Yeah, no, I think all Kennedys should be women in a year.
	Even the men.
	Even the male Kennedys.
	Well, many of them.
	Then Stella McCartney, of course, she is daughter of a Beatle, which right there gives you, you know, she does have her own creds.
	She's got her clothing line, you know, which has varying reviews, as many do.
	It sucks.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Then there's Amy Poehler.
	She's from Saturday Night Live.
	Amy Poehler's a comic.
	Yes, that's correct.
	She's a woman of the year.
	How come Tina Fey isn't topping her on the list?
	Because she's no longer with Saturday Night Live.
	Now, Lorne Michaels had to make a decision, and he said, well, let Amy have it this year.
	Now, the next one is, I would like to bang her so hard, is Marissa Meyer from Google.
	Have you ever met her?
	Yes.
	Oh, yeah.
	And this is a great picture of her.
	You've got to look at it.
	She looks photogenic.
	I've never met her.
	She's in a red dress, and she's sitting on one of those red balls, like the one that Leo always sits on.
	In, you know, one of those...
	Yeah, ball.
	It's a big ball.
	Ball cancer!
	But, oh, man, she just...
	She just brings out something very animalistic in me.
	I can't help it.
	Urgh.
	Okay, then we have Serena Williams.
	Then we have Jane Aronson.
	Who the hell is Jane Aronson?
	I don't know.
	Oh, she's the guardian angel.
	This is a bunch of bull, this list, you know.
	Well, it gets better, because I'm leading up to a point.
	So then we have Susan Rice, who is, of course, communications director?
	No, no, no, not communications director.
	She's...
	U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations.
	How come Hillary Clinton's not on this list?
	Well, no, the final two, John, and these are the ones that really count...
	Yuna Lee and Laura Ling!
	Women of the Year!
	Oh, my dear cow, brother.
	Okay, here it is.
	Two crying Chinese journalists who...
	They are Women of the Year because, according to Glamour Magazine, they are extraordinary women who are brave and resourceful, reporting a story that no one else has.
	They showed remarkable courage and initiative during their ordeal.
	That's actually Al Gore.
	Wow.
	Yeah, that's bad.
	That's a bad list.
	You know how these lists are done?
	I tell people this all the time, because I've been in the editorial room many a time, and you sit around, usually over lunch, while eating.
	Is it a good lunch, or is it just kind of like a box lunch?
	It's just sandwiches, you know, just a good sandwich lunch.
	And pop, you know, with potato chips.
	And you sit there and then you start making the list up.
	Usually there's a whiteboard someplace and you start moving names around.
	Then you get into a debate with people.
	I don't think that she should be number two.
	Well, he didn't do an interview with us last year.
	I'll give you, I'll move her to number four if you let me put so-and-so to number three.
	Okay, I can do that.
	And so it's just this like phony thing and then you put it together.
	Is everybody in agreement?
	Okay, you know, it's like an hour.
	Yeah, and then you're done.
	And then you realize when you start getting the letters to the editor that you've left out...
	Tons of important people.
	Yeah, I know.
	That's great.
	I'm getting Twitters and all kinds of noise asking how can it be, John, that you were so clueless about what happened to the health care bill yesterday.
	I think if we're clueless, if John and I don't understand it, how do you think the general populace...
	I sent you the map, which you'll put in the show notes, of how a bill goes through Congress.
	And you can kind of follow it.
	And you'll see that it's like they flip...
	Look at this map.
	It's not like a single route.
	Wow.
	These things fly all over the place.
	They go from in and out of committees, and they go to the floor, and they debate, and they go to a conference.
	So let me just see, where are we in the system right now?
	So we've had introduction...
	I think we're at the bottom of this list where you have floor activity, refer to rules committee, debate and votes.
	I don't know if the Senate's voted.
	Yesterday was the Senate vote.
	What are you talking about?
	I thought it was the House vote yesterday.
	No, yesterday was the Senate vote.
	Oh, okay.
	No, wait a minute.
	I may be wrong.
	Is Kucinich a senator or a governor or a congressman?
	I think he's a congressman.
	No.
	Dennis Kucinich.
	He's a representative from Mars.
	I think he's from Neptune.
	Hey man, just because he believes in UFOs doesn't mean he's a bad guy, okay?
	I like him.
	I do.
	Stand up, Mr.
	Kucinich.
	No, no, really, stand up.
	He voted against it yesterday, by the way.
	I did check his record.
	So this was...
	Oh, man.
	Well, anyway, so...
	So that was Congress.
	No, no, Nancy Pelosi voted in this, and she's definitely a senator.
	She's a senator.
	She's Speaker of the House.
	She gets to vote.
	Oh, so she's a congresswoman, of course.
	Oh, God.
	All right, so then we still have...
	So we're nowhere yet.
	So we still have to have a Senate bill.
	I don't know.
	Maybe the Senate bill passed because they had that.
	No, I think the Senate bill passed.
	This is the House bill.
	Now it goes to conference.
	Now it goes to conference, which is where you get these guys together and say, ooh, your bill, I don't like that.
	Well, we can change that.
	And then they change the whole damn thing.
	Okay, wait a minute.
	So in this graph that I'm looking at, it says conference, dash, dash, resolving differences in parentheses if necessary, and then vote.
	So who votes?
	The House votes then?
	No, the conference.
	The conference.
	I think it's just amongst themselves.
	Who's the conference?
	Just a bunch of guys that we both sides send to this.
	You know, you guys meet with those guys and resolve it.
	How many guys?
	I don't know.
	It doesn't say.
	It probably changes.
	It's like a mob.
	It's like, hey, I'm sending some of my guys.
	Hey, you send some of your guys.
	They'll figure it out.
	Just don't carry any weapons.
	Show up unarmed and unwired or else you know what's going to happen.
	As far as I know it...
	And then it goes to the president.
	Yeah, and he just signs it, and that's the end of it.
	Or vetoes.
	He can veto.
	He's not going to veto anything.
	Hmm.
	And then it's printed and codified, and then it goes into law, and that's the end of it.
	This is a good little chart, but it shows you that it's, like, ridiculous.
	Okay, the chart will be in the show notes.
	Well, you can't say that this thing, well, I don't know, it's in some process.
	Yeah, it's on its way.
	Until the president signs something, we don't know what it's going to say.
	Because the resolution conference is going to change a lot of it.
	Yeah, that's when actually everything changes, and it'll probably grow in size.
	It's like someone's adding Viagra and extends to it at every step of the way.
	It just grows.
	Besides the point, they did pass something.
	Something.
	Okay, so that was the House vote.
	Yeah, that makes sense.
	And I think the Senate's already done.
	So we're at the point now where they're going to go to the...
	The conference.
	To fix the two bills so they work together as one.
	Is that at the Moscone Center, this conference?
	It should be.
	They're going to have a dinner party afterwards.
	Cocktails at six.
	Sit down at 7.30.
	I tell you one thing.
	If we actually received enough money from our listeners, and all it would take was $5 a year from everyone who listens to this show, and John and I could both quit.
	Now, of course, I love it that many people make up for the people who aren't donating, but if we could get to that point, I could actually sit at home for a day and understand the process, because I know I didn't learn it in school.
	No one taught me that in school.
	You still wouldn't get it.
	Mainly because it's an impossible thing to find.
	You can see, look at this chart.
	It's got the arrows going every which way.
	So, uh...
	This thing loops around every which way.
	It's got to go to these different, you know, every...
	I don't even know who chooses what committees they have that have to go over this.
	Except the ways and means, which is the budget.
	You know, guys, they have to make sure they can pay for this.
	And this, you know, some other committee has to make sure that they can enforce it.
	The IRS is somehow involved now because it's actually a form of a tax.
	Because it's a tax.
	Not a form of.
	It is an actual tax.
	It's a huge tax.
	It's not going to throw you in jail if you don't buy the...
	Pelosi added some little amendment to the House bill that says you're going to go to jail...
	You know, this is because Pelosi's out here in San Francisco.
	She's got a whole bunch of people listening to No Agenda, you know, to see what the real pulse of the movement is about.
	And they're hearing us talk about, hey, you know what you do?
	All you got to do is just take no insurance.
	You know, you pay your $1,500 a year.
	And then when you get sick, they can't refuse you.
	And then you get automatic coverage, so it's a lot cheaper.
	And they're like running back to little big hair there.
	Like...
	Oh, Nancy, Nancy, Nancy, here's what Adam and John have cooked up.
	We've got to stop that.
	We've got to stop it immediately.
	And then so they throw in this thing like...
	Nancy Pelosi, she doesn't even know what a podcast is.
	You'd be amazed.
	Someone who works for her does.
	Anyway, all she knows is, ah, more Nazis.
	Ah!
	They've got Nazi symbols, I'm sure.
	Oh, we must stop them.
	We'll make it a tax.
	And if you don't pay for the tax, well, then you just go to jail.
	So do we have anything else on the health care?
	I have some other...
	Oh, I got one.
	I was trying to get into just...
	Yeah, wait.
	One more Law& Order clip.
	I was telling you that there was these two messages.
	Now they have the...
	In the same show where they have the medical marijuana thing, they have this message, which is...
	What's the name of the clips on this?
	Healthcare bill, probably?
	Yeah, yeah.
	Brenda Sawyer thought otherwise, that you were selling false hope to desperate people at a thousand bucks a day, doing it by co-opting doctors with timeshares and tropical vacations, that it's a rigged game.
	Don't get self-righteous on me, Jack.
	If corporations didn't make profits, where would politicians like you be?
	Ominous music.
	There are too many office holders in the health industry's pockets.
	It's one of the reasons we can't pass a decent health care bill in this country.
	Oh, by the way.
	Right.
	Let's just be blatant.
	Yeah, I mean, really.
	They should publish show notes with Law& Order so we can click on a link and we know what they're actually referencing.
	For more information about the topics discussed in NBC's Law& Order, go to NBC.com slash Law& Order.
	Click on a link in the show notes and learn.
	So there was a bet out that you watched V, so I won that one.
	There was another bet that you have already developed the crackpot theory.
	Hold on a second.
	You're hedging against me?
	You're betting against your buddy, the crackpot?
	You're taking out put options on me?
	Only on the V, but on this one I'm betting on it.
	Why were you so sure I hadn't seen it?
	Just because I'm too busy doing real work?
	Because I have a second sense.
	A third eye.
	Here's the jingle.
	He has a second sense, a third eye, and he wears Speedos to work.
	John C. Dvorak.
	If you don't like him...
	So, where's the other shell dropping, by the way?
	No, but you can only drop one.
	I don't know, man.
	I didn't make the clip.
	Details.
	So anyway, you have a crackpot theory about the shootings at Fort Hood.
	It's not a crackpot theory.
	Wow, you want to get into that?
	I'm real ready for that one.
	So first of all...
	Everyone wants you to hear what you have to say.
	Oh, beautiful.
	So the first thing I always do when there's something important happening that will affect 300 million people in the country is I want to go hear what the President has to say about it.
	And, well, the President actually didn't talk about the health care bill during his presidential radio address.
	He talked about what happened at Fort Hood.
	And would you like to listen along for a second, just to hear a couple of the interesting things that our president had to say about Fort Hood and how he's spinning this?
	Yeah, go.
	Hold on a second.
	By the way, J.C. has sent me a little note about the...
	He doesn't think that the health care bill passed the Senate yet, and the conference report must be approved by both the House and the Senate, which they say, I guess they have to do some simple votes.
	Well, the New York Times pimped it out as being...
	Somebody won something by 220 to 215.
	Yeah, that was the House thing, but I don't...
	The Senate hasn't gone for it yet.
	Okay.
	Here's your weekly radio address as radioized on YouTube.
	I got nothing.
	You got nothing?
	I'm not hearing anything.
	Hold on.
	Oh, you're right.
	I'm not hearing anything either.
	What the hell is that?
	There's a little knob that says volume.
	Hold on.
	Maybe it's this one.
	I think this is it.
	Let's see if that works.
	...readiness processing center...
	Okay, hold on.
	...and began shooting his...
	You got it now, right?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	I'd like to speak with you for a few minutes today about the tragedy that took place at Fort Hood.
	This past Thursday on a clear Texas afternoon.
	I love that.
	The setup is beautiful, right?
	You ready for it?
	It's a clear Texas afternoon.
	It's a clear afternoon.
	And by the way, I don't want to diminish at all the value of life.
	It's horrible what happened, but clearly there's a lot of weird shit going on with this.
	First, there was three gunmen.
	CNN was all over three gunmen.
	Right, I remember that.
	There was one lone gunman.
	Even the PR major or general, whatever his name is, was saying, well, it's You know, it's really, it goes against all logical reason that one gunman can cause so much carnage.
	But okay, so the president is setting the stage for you in your mind.
	It's a clear Texas day in the world.
	An army psychiatrist walked into the Soldier Readiness Processing Center and began shooting his fellow soldiers.
	It's an act of violence that would have been heartbreaking had it occurred any place in America.
	It's a crime that would have horrified us had its victims been Americans of any background.
	But it's all the more heartbreaking and all the more despicable because of the place where it occurred and the patriots who were its victims.
	Are you with me?
	You're getting the setup, right?
	Yeah.
	You're getting prepared.
	It's happening to the patriots.
	The SRP is where our men and women in uniform go before getting deployed.
	It's where they get their teeth checked and their medical records updated and make sure everything is in order before getting shipped out.
	By the way, I found that to be really weird to say they get their teeth checked.
	What is this?
	Like their horses?
	Like their cattle?
	Yeah, that is an odd thing.
	It's a weird thing to say.
	So this was prepared.
	Yeah, but you know, they get a medical or they get a physical.
	They get their teeth checked.
	It's like, I don't know, that just felt weird to me.
	It's like, come on over here, you sheep.
	It was in this place, on a base where our soldiers ought to feel most safe, where those brave Americans who are preparing to risk their lives in defense of our nation...
	Okay, second time that he's talking about how they're not just enlisted or being called up from the National Guard.
	These are people preparing to defend our nation against these horrible 100 Al-Qaeda in Afghanistan.
	Lost their lives in a crime against our nation.
	Okay, there it is.
	Did you hear it?
	Lost their lives in a crime against our nation.
	Right.
	So this is what bugs the shit out of me.
	So you've got to make up your mind.
	Either you're going to call this a terrorist attack or not.
	And if you slip in a crime against our nation, does that not imply that it's a terrorist attack?
	I don't know.
	It was in this place, on a base where our soldiers ought to feel most safe, where those brave Americans who are preparing to risk their lives in defense of our nation lost their lives in a crime against our nation.
	Soldiers stationed in Iraq, Afghanistan, and around the world called and emailed loved ones at Fort Hood, all expressing the same stunned reaction.
	I'm supposed to be the one in harm's way, not you.
	To me, the subtle message here is these terrorists are supposed to be shooting at me, not at you.
	Am I reading this wrong?
	Am I just too crackpotty about this?
	No, not really.
	You're not too crackpotty.
	You might be extending a bit, but keep going.
	Thursday's shooting was one of the most devastating ever committed on an American military base.
	And yet, even as we saw the worst of human nature on full display, we also saw the best of America.
	We saw soldiers and civilians alike rushing to the aid of fallen comrades, tearing off bullet-riddled clothes to treat the injured.
	I mean, this is the same guy who writes Law and Order is writing this.
	Yeah, well, that's for sure.
	I mean, touring off bullet-ridden clothing.
	I mean, come on!
	Why would you tear it off?
	I guess to get to the wound.
	Anyway.
	Using blouses as tourniquets.
	Taking down the shooter, even as they bore wounds themselves.
	We saw soldiers bringing to bear on our own soil the skills they had been trained to use abroad.
	Skills that have been honed through years of determined effort for one purpose and one purpose only.
	To protect and defend the United States of America.
	I can't listen to it anymore because it's the same thing over and over again.
	It's all about basically the subtle message, the way I'm hearing it, is it was an attack on the United States.
	So, a couple things.
	First of all, this guy was a psychiatrist.
	Actually, I thought you might come up with the crackpot theory that this was somehow some horrible publicity stunt gone wrong for the new George Clooney movie, which is Men Who Stare at Goats, which is a true story about these type of psychiatric, or as they call psyops, Well documented, by the way.
	In the movie, Clooney is one of an elite team who actually can use their brain to do things like kill goats just by staring at them.
	So, you've probably heard of the program MKUltra.
	What these psychiatrists oftentimes do when they're at the Preparedness Readiness Center, or whatever it's called, is they really help reprogram soldiers' brains.
	Remember, these boys and girls who are going over to Iraq and Afghanistan are not going for the first time.
	This is not like the early 18-year-old recruits, although some of them are still 18.
	These are people going back for the second, third, fourth, fifth tour.
	And you have no idea.
	And a tour is no longer six months.
	I think it's a year.
	And within a couple months, by the way, this will be the longest war in American history.
	So the idea is...
	And they bring in all kinds of psychiatrists and brain programmers to help remove the horrible...
	Inputs that these, basically, you know, these young children have received.
	So I don't, even looking at some of the security camera footage from this Major Hassan, who was, you know, the very, the day right before this all came down, he's in a mini-mart.
	He's, you know, laughing in the cameras, catching all this.
	Yeah, but he's wearing a dish dash.
	Well, that's the whole point.
	Of course, he's wearing some Muslim guard.
	This is reminding me of...
	Reminding me of that other situation with the guy that they pulled out of Denver.
	Who was in the beauty mall buying hydrogen peroxide.
	Right.
	It's the formula.
	It's the same formula.
	Show the guy in his Muslim garb.
	So we don't have to call him a terrorist, but we do definitely, right now, now that we have to make a decision on sending another 48,000 troops into Afghanistan, we have to really hype up the danger.
	We have to really let you know that it's really, really dangerous.
	This is just psychology being admitted on the American people.
	Right away, they found his websites with his anti-American postings.
	Oh, of course.
	We've seen that fake before.
	My son actually brought up the fact that these psychiatrists, if anybody experiments with drugs, and there's some whoppers out there, psychotropic drugs that you can get, That would make you nuts.
	If anybody, this guy's about to deploy, he may have loaded up on some damn thing and then gone nuts.
	I think there's a lot of training going on.
	There's no explanation for this.
	Who says that he actually did it?
	There were two other people.
	All of a sudden, oh no, they had nothing to do with it.
	Oh no, we'll just let them go.
	Nothing to see here.
	Oh, look at the guy with the Muslim dress on.
	There's also the belief that there was a lot of friendly fire involved because these guys start shooting.
	What is he coming in there with a 9mm?
	I don't know how many shells do you think there is in that thing.
	He apparently had a semi-automatic.
	Did he have a machine gun?
	Well, I read that it was an M16. I don't think an M16 has that many bullets.
	Well, you can get a big military clip.
	Yeah, you can get a lot in there.
	But if you kill 18 and wound 31, you got that clip.
	I mean, look, I'm not a gun expert.
	I'm sure someone in the chat room might not.
	Let's look it up.
	An M16 maximum clip.
	I know they're illegal.
	Okay, look at it.
	But I read that it was an M16. So you looked that up.
	And otherwise, it wouldn't have been an AK-47 because that's not a U.S. military weapon.
	No, an M16 would be logical.
	I know where he'd get it.
	And a semi-automatic.
	Apparently he didn't like shooting guns, so how did all of a sudden he become a gun expert?
	Okay, I have here 5.7mm 20-round semi-automatic.
	Yeah, that's the civilian version.
	Okay, so what is the...
	Anyway, I think he had to reload a new clip, which just doesn't make any sense, man.
	Especially since he doesn't like guns.
	Yes, he completely doesn't like guns.
	And even the PR official was saying it's counterintuitive, but hey, you just got to believe us.
	Yeah.
	So I'm not buying it at all.
	And I think it's, unfortunately, it was one of these desperate moves to get the American public scared again.
	There's 40 round clips you can get.
	Does it say that?
	Yeah, I'm looking at it.
	Okay, so he, well, that's pretty damn impressive.
	40 rounds and he kills 18 and wounds 31.
	So he must have had a couple of shots where he hit two people with one.
	Or there was just bullets flying every which way from, you know, the other side too.
	Yeah.
	Because the girl who brought him down, it was a woman, by the way, which I thought was somewhat symbolic, because, you know, there's nothing like...
	She's a cop, right?
	The woman cop brought him down?
	Well, it's how you're a security person.
	But anyway, she shot him, like, she got hit, she put four rounds into him.
	And, of course, if you think about the Muslim kind of symbolism here, a woman killing a Muslim male.
	Oh, yeah.
	Oh, I hadn't even thought about that.
	There's that angle, which seems a little, you know, a little rigged.
	And the whole thing is just, like, screwy.
	We're not going to find out anything.
	No, no, no.
	And the guy will never make it.
	He won't get off the breathing machine.
	Here's a 90-round to draw.
	I don't know.
	Okay, but you think that...
	Listen, John.
	The guy actually cleaned out his apartment, put everything in storage.
	He was ready to deploy.
	And you don't just do all that if you're thinking, fuck it, I'm not deploying.
	I'm going to go blow everybody away.
	And by the way, it just makes no sense.
	It makes no sense.
	But what does make sense is immediate distraction was needed for some reason because we have the health care bill that's been top of mind.
	We've got to ram this thing through.
	We have 48,000 troops who want to deploy for the opium harvest so we can get all the dope back on time.
	And then all of a sudden this happens at Fort Hood.
	Coincidence?
	I think not!
	I hate to say it, but yes, my crackpot theory would be that there are elements, I'm not necessarily saying the government, there are elements in upper echelons of society who in fact do not give a shit and don't mind if scores of people are wounded and killed just to distract attention.
	That's my theory.
	And I'm sticking to it.
	Yeah, well I'm not going to argue with him.
	Wow.
	I mean, there's something, because the whole thing just doesn't add up.
	And it's just too convenient.
	There's too many, you know, if these things were more, if they were more like, if it wasn't like so well packaged, the guy's a Muslim, they got a picture of him the day before, and his dish dash looking like some guy in, you know, Qatar.
	And then he's got the weblog postings, which you've seen this before.
	It's almost like a cookie cutter version of something we've heard about before.
	And then we got the postings and he hates the, you know, he's been expressed and he's deployed for some reason, you know, even though he hates the idea and he bitches and moans a lot, I guess.
	Maybe he doesn't.
	And then, you know, a woman kills him, you know, she saves the day, kills the mad, you know, mad Arab that is shooting up the place like a maniac.
	And it's just a little too...
	It's too well-groomed.
	And now, of course, he's on a ventilator and he's about to die.
	They're trying to question him, supposedly.
	I mean, he could be dead already.
	We don't know.
	You're right.
	He probably will be dead.
	He'll die.
	I don't think he's ever going to be seen standing up again.
	I'd be shocked if that took place.
	Yeah.
	And somewhere I have a link, which of course I can't find right now.
	It was from, I think, the Times Online.
	They were already connecting him to September 11th terrorists.
	So, you know, basically the call goes out to the UK Ministry of Truth.
	Hey, print something up about some connections to Al-Qaeda, will you?
	And, you know, it's a little too blatant to start that right here, like in the New York Times, although I'm sure that will come.
	And, you know, we have, like, right now we're running, like, this is the other question you have to ask.
	We're running a surveillance society.
	Obama keeps pushing this through.
	We've got the Patriot Act.
	You can look at anybody.
	And you've got this guy in the Army at Fort Hood writing weird stuff on a web blog, wandering around in a dish dash, bitching about the Army constantly, apparently.
	He has links to Al-Qaeda.
	He has links to Al-Qaeda.
	And now all of a sudden we're finding all this stuff.
	I mean, where's all this Patriot Act stuff?
	Where is the research?
	I might want to mention that also going on in some form of that process of the diagram we can't figure out, It's the Patriot Act.
	You know, they're right in the middle of the renewal of that.
	I mean, that has to be renewed very, very soon.
	So, you know, that's also going on at the same time.
	This is another one of those, you know, maybe the beauty shop bomber wasn't scary enough, so now, you know what, let's create some havoc.
	And by the way, immediately the first thing that is said in cable news is it's not a terrorist attack.
	Which is almost like a disclaimer on the cigarette packaging.
	It draws attention to it.
	When you say to someone, do not forget, your brain does not register the word not.
	Your brain registers the word forget.
	So when you say it is not a terrorist act, what people's brains actually register is terrorist act.
	Right.
	It's true.
	You can't use negative.
	Your brain will not take a negative.
	So, you know, so basically...
	By the way, folks out there, when you say do not forget, you never say tell someone not to forget.
	You say remember.
	Remember, exactly.
	Remember to get the milk.
	Hey, it worked!
	I can have pancakes!
	I'll put that link in the show notes for some reason.
	I can't find it right now.
	But, you know, they already figured out that this guy was, you know, his mom was buried someplace where some other guys were.
	And he's Palestinian, too, by the way.
	Oh, just to make it worse.
	He's from Jordan, but with a Palestinian connection.
	Ah.
	Oy, oy, oy.
	So, you know what?
	I guess it wasn't so much of a crackpot theory because you're not against it.
	But the real thing to look into is what kind of psychological work is going on to basically...
	You know, Mickey and I, we met a serviceman on Halloween night around the corner in the bar, this kid named Justin.
	And he was just a guy who was like an engineer.
	He welds, whatever.
	But he had gotten back.
	He had done three tours.
	Two in Iraq, one in Afghanistan.
	And you talk to this guy and all of a sudden you just see something come over him.
	It's like a door opened up.
	And it's the most saddening thing to see.
	He was talking about friendly fire and how he had seen his own buddies being shot by a U.S. Cobra helicopter.
	And he actually went silent and glass-eyed for a minute, but in a very freakish, scary kind of way.
	I mean, do not underestimate what's happening here.
	This is really, really, really nasty shit.
	In fact, it was so coincidental because just the other day we were watching...
	What's the name of that John Cusack movie where he...
	Oh, crap.
	Penny, can you look up the name of that movie?
	It was John Cusack and Hilary Duff.
	It's supposed to be a comedy, but of course it has an underlying message.
	Hold on.
	John Cusack, Hilary Duff.
	It was a fantastic movie.
	War, Inc., It was on HBO. It's probably still running.
	You must see this movie.
	It totally shows you what I believe to be an exaggerated version of the reality of what is happening in these wars run mainly, by the way, by companies like Blackwater and other consultancies and private security firms.
	And what's really going on, and of course, at the end of the day, it's all about money and drugs and mob-like practices.
	Great movie.
	Great frickin' movie.
	Okay, so I'll watch it.
	But anyway, one more thing about this guy, and there's one more little anomaly that keeps getting overlooked in the body count.
	There was a civilian that was shot and killed.
	Yeah, because there was some kind of graduation ceremony going on, wasn't there?
	Who was it?
	I don't know.
	They haven't released the names of anybody.
	They've gone out of their way to only release two names for some reason.
	And it's civilian.
	All of a sudden, a civilian's dead.
	You know, this could have been a hit for all you know.
	Yeah, that could have been too.
	Well, you know what?
	We're just not going to know.
	Certainly not right now.
	No, we're never going to find out.
	But for sure, it doesn't add up.
	I do not like the fact that there were two suspects who were let go almost immediately.
	That makes no sense.
	Right.
	Anyway, okay.
	So did you win the bet?
	Yeah.
	No, actually, there was really no bet.
	I was just joking, because we all knew you were going to come up with a crackpot theory.
	But it's not so crackpot, is it?
	Well, I was hoping for something more weird, like the guy was a moon man, he came from Venus, dropped off from a flying saucer.
	No, I'll throw in the crackpot one, which is not that crackpot-y, but do some research on MKUltra.
	Everybody knows about MKUltra, and that was in the 60s, it was so long ago.
	It's still going on.
	It says you.
	So, uh, I lost my thing here.
	Oh, here it is.
	No, I guess not.
	Do you want to talk about some donations?
	Yeah, let's talk about some donations.
	So again, I want to thank everybody for your contributions, contributing to the $1,000 donation to Interplast.
	I do give away a lot of this money, by the way.
	Websites that I visit that do a lot of research, I'll always hit them up with $50 or $100.
	If anyone's got a PayPal, which is kind of like a sub-economy, I like it.
	And by the way, anybody who has money left over in their PayPal account, you're welcome to send it to us.
	It's actually a good way to clean out the account.
	It really does help.
	I think, John, maybe the only way to get...
	The type of money that we need to actually be able to do this full-time.
	And you would give up a lot, right?
	You'd give up some of your speaking engagements and other stuff to be able to do this more full-time?
	I'd probably be able to do more speeches if we did it full-time.
	We'd be on the second, John!
	It's a nice shoehorn for more money.
	Maybe we just have to do that and then people will catch up with us.
	Maybe.
	So let's go over some people.
	Okay, $50.
	A fellow wants to just mention his website.
	He's an indie music guy.
	Check it out.
	He's got some pretty good tunes if you like what he does.
	www.deriklorin.com.
	$50.
	And then we have a $100 donation from Chasen, or Chasen Chasen, I guess, Rosdilsky, or Rosdilsky, or Rosdilsky, one of the two.
	But the interesting thing is he's from Canada, and he's from the Paris of Canada, Saskatoon, Saskatchewan.
	I've never been there, but people keep telling me it's the Paris of Canada.
	The Paris of Canada, no less.
	Yeah, apparently it's like Paris was in the 50s.
	I guess a lot of coffee places, or I don't know.
	Everyone says you've got to go.
	It's college town.
	Let's go there.
	We should go up there.
	I'd love to go to Saskatoon.
	Saskatoon!
	Alison Hamill, who calls herself a chick, by the way.
	No!
	Do we have a count of 21, then?
	I think this is 22, isn't it?
	Could be 20 or 21.
	Somebody probably stopped listening anyway.
	And she's in Brandson, Mississippi, which is interesting because we have actually two donors from Mississippi.
	Let me just jump in here with a note from Jay Won't Dart.
	He's our vegan in residence.
	And he says, I'm seriously...
	He's already donated.
	He says, I'm seriously considering becoming a knight if you guys will do one task for me.
	Are you ready, John?
	So that means $1,000 for the cause.
	Yeah.
	If we eat vegan for a week.
	We'll tell him to bring a vegan over and we'll eat him.
	That would not be vegan.
	That would be meat eating.
	Are you game?
	Are you ready to go vegan for a week?
	I can do vegan for a week.
	No problem.
	Okay, we'll decide.
	We'll push that off, but we will do it.
	No, don't push it off.
	Let's do it.
	I'm not going to do it now.
	I got meats thawing.
	Hold on a second.
	Whoa, that's the opening of the show if I ever heard it.
	I've got meats thawing.
	So Alison Hamill gave us $52.50.
	And then from Canberra, Australia, Ruben Zhang, probably pronounced Zhang, Z-H-A-N-G, $53.33.
	Todd Simmons, Queensland, Australia, almost got in as executive producer at $169.69.
	And he's in Queensland.
	Todd Simmons, $169.69.
	I think he's trying to make a point there.
	Rick Hansen in Seattle, $50.
	Oh, by the way, Pat in SoCal, send Rory his book back.
	Damn it!
	James Briscoe, we mentioned before, 233-63, and I'll get to an explanation for that shortly.
	Wes Little in McGee, Mississippi.
	This makes two people from Mississippi that...
	McGee!
	And he gave a 60, and of course Travis Wynn is still on the...
	Do you notice, John, that there's very little from the big cities in general?
	Well, Rick Hansen's in Seattle.
	Okay.
	That's a big city.
	Yeah, it's a big city.
	But still, you know, like, you know, New York.
	I don't think we've ever gotten a donation from New York.
	Los Angeles, you know.
	I don't think we've ever had a donation.
	San Francisco proper.
	And by the way, where's Berkeley in all of this?
	Oh, they're never going to listen to this show.
	Hello, Berkeley.
	They're Obama bots.
	Berkeley!
	All right, here we go.
	James Briscoe.
	I'm just going to read the note.
	Yet another donation from your sole Long Island listener in Gitmo Central.
	Since my last donation was too, quote-unquote, complicated for you to follow, here's how I arrived at my latest donation.
	Then he has a subdirectory, cd slash sata2 slash na slash casts.
	And in Perrin's, he says, contains all the shows up until 11.15 for my private No Agenda stream to listen to at work.
	Speaking of which, what's taking you guys so long to set this up?
	It took me an hour just to download the shows and a trivial amount of time to set up Shoutcast.
	And here's the calculation.
	512 sum equals cat star dot mp3 slash sha512 sum hugs.
	Dollars equals 512 sum mod 250 cents equals 512 sum mod 42 plus 24.
	That is how he got 23363.
	You know what?
	I don't care what it means.
	I'm just happy.
	And he is the executive producer of No Agenda 146, and I appreciate it.
	And you know what?
	Yes, it's not hard to set up a shoutcast server and drop some shows into a directory, but the whole point is to make it come alive.
	This is the art that John and I possess.
	A dying art, I might add, seeing as radio has been pulled to shit.
	Thanks to Clear Channel and SiriusXM and all these playlist type stations.
	That's why streaming radio has never really taken off because it's just playlists.
	You need to have the art of programming behind it and that actually takes a lot of work.
	It takes time.
	It takes looking at feedback, looking at listener behavior and always having something fresh.
	Now we have the added disadvantage of not knowing If you're in which time zone you're in.
	So it's very, very complicated to set this up properly.
	In fact, I'd love to have an East Coast feed, a Gitmo East feed, a Gitmo West feed.
	There's a whole bunch of things that come into place.
	It's not as simple.
	The technology is not the problem.
	It's the actual hours in the day.
	That you need to put in to make this worth listening to.
	Otherwise, yeah, you might just go ahead and publish your directory and people can just listen to it from there.
	I mean, that stuff is easy.
	What we're talking about is a real entertainment information experience.
	And that, ladies and gentlemen, is...
	Sorry, I was channeling you for a moment.
	Yeah, I could tell.
	Andres Kelka.
	I just want to mention one of our donators who comes in at a monthly $5 a month level.
	And he's from the Czech Republic.
	And he goes in this whole thing about when you're supposed to use the, so not with Ukraine.
	It would be Ukraine, not the Ukraine.
	But since he's in the Czech Republic, he says, you know, you spell the prime minister's name V-A-C-L-A-V. But you do not pronounce it Václav.
	You pronounce it Václav, Klaus.
	Is it Václav?
	It's Václav.
	The C apparently is pronounced as an S. So I appreciate that.
	And I'll tell you what, I have only heard it pronounced as Václav in the United States, and I hate it when people don't even get the basics of the name right.
	So thanks for that correction, Andrzej, which of course I'm murdering that too.
	Yeah, no, we botch names.
	We are actually experts at botching names.
	But we try to do it, right?
	If somebody sends me an explanation, I try to do it.
	And we appreciate your $5 donation.
	That's also appreciated.
	By the way, anybody out there who wants to subscribe to the $5 monthly thing, please welcome.
	That's really all we ask for.
	All the people out there who give $10 or $49.95 or $5 a month and all the rest of it, it all adds up and it's all good.
	But it's nice to get these executive producers.
	It's not enough.
	It's good, but it's not enough.
	And by the way, I think I'm going to, you know, when it comes to executive producers, because of the situation last show, anyone who gives over $200, in other words, if we have three people, we're going to have the hype, man, we'll get the executive producer, and the other ones will be associate executive producers, which you can again.
	And it's a fact, by the way.
	Yes.
	Use on your resume.
	Yes.
	Not only can you use it, but it looks good.
	You can get jobs with it, and you know we all need some of those.
	Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
	Let's vote for jobs!
	So, vote with your PayPal account and get it on your resume.
	And if you want, we'll vouch for you.
	All you have to do is send us the letter.
	We'll sign it and send it right back to you.
	Yeah, make sure you get the show number right.
	Actually, we'll probably post, after I do this organizational thing, whatever, GTA or whatever it is.
	GTD, GTD, getting things done, GTD. Once I run that, then I'll be able to put up some pages that actually list the executive producers for the various shows.
	And you don't even have to bother us.
	You can just point somebody to the webpage and say, look, see, I'm on executive producer.
	Actually, that's a very good idea, John.
	We should do this right now.
	Could you please send me our executive producer's name and I'll put that in the show notes.
	Just Skype it to me right now, will you?
	Yeah, sure.
	So I should be doing that.
	By the way, we also post the chat logs.
	So the full logs of what's going on in the chat room at noagendachat.com is online every week in the show notes.
	You can go back and see what people are talking about.
	A lot of good information there.
	And I will now put at the top of the show, this week's executive producer and anyone else over $200 gets an associate executive producer credit in the show notes.
	You are embedded there and codified for all history to see.
	James Briscoe is our executive producer for this episode.
	Yeah, that's actually a good idea.
	That way it shows up in the...
	Then we don't have to be bothered with these letters.
	No, I'll do the letters.
	I don't care about the letters.
	You're lame, man.
	You are so lame.
	By the way, your Skype connection degraded significantly in the past five minutes.
	Yeah, at least I'm not sounding like a chicken.
	But it happened a few minutes ago.
	All of a sudden, it's just crap.
	You too.
	Oh, really?
	Mm-hmm.
	Sorry.
	It's okay.
	I think this guy craps out at about an hour.
	Do you have any more people to talk about today?
	No, actually, I don't.
	I'm...
	I mean, except for this, I don't have the link up anymore, but that PDF that shows us leaving Iraq.
	Oh, no, I was talking about donations.
	Oh, no, that's it.
	That's our donation list.
	Oh, okay.
	Well, you know, Timothy Geithner is also looking for donations.
	Little Timmy Geithner, of course, is our Treasury Secretary, and he's not liking this limit on a trillion dollars.
	So while we weren't looking, while we were looking at live coverage of the Mount Hood, of the Fort Hood PR conference, Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner, before the Financial Services Committee on Wednesday, so there's a new bailout package being put together.
	It's 1,618 pages in growing, or as some are calling it, TARP on steroids.
	So this is another bailout for the financial industry because they're going to need one because, let's face it, that yacht is just not doing anymore.
	The Goldman guys, their yachts are beautiful, so we all need to have some bigger yachts.
	And the previous bailout, of course, was $787 billion, I believe.
	And in this new document, I don't know if it's a bill yet, or it's a proposal, I guess, there was a cap set on the amount of money that could be made available, and when Geithner was asked if he would accept a $1 trillion limit, which is $1,000 billion, so it's $1,000,000 million, He said, no, that's no good.
	I can't have no cap on that shit, brother!
	That's no good!
	So that's also happening while we're kind of not looking, while we're obviously distracted by other things going on, which is why you have to listen to your Church of No Agenda, your weekly media assassination.
	And may I just point out that gold briefly touched $1,100 an ounce.
	We knew that was coming.
	Yeah, you're predicting it's going to go to 2,000.
	It's going to blow through 2,000.
	Way through it.
	The website is dvorak.org slash na or noagendashow.com and you can link to the donation page from there.
	Is it possible, John, the buttons we have on noagendashow.com and dvorak.org slash blog, can people copy those and put them on their own sites or can you publish the code so people can just...
	I can publish the code.
	That would do it.
	Would you do that, please?
	Because I think that would be very handy.
	A lot of people are talking about that.
	I got list number 16.
	GTD, getting things done.
	Seriously, though.
	Just give me the code or whatever.
	Let's put that in there, man.
	Well, okay.
	It's a done deal, not...
	It's a done deal getting things done.
	It's a new variation.
	It's a done deal.
	A new time management system by John C. Dvorak.
	It's a done deal.
	Guaranteed to get you nowhere in life.
	Done deal.
	And we've got donedeal.com.
	Oh, we should get that.
	That's funny.
	I'm sure somebody does.
	So anyway, I just thought that was...
	There's a great article, by the way, in...
	What the hell is it?
	Is that...
	I think it's also...
	Yeah, it's the Times Online, which you may want to read.
	Hold on a second.
	Let me...
	Hey, turn down your Mickey.
	Yeah, my Mickey's making me some coffee.
	I think you're drinking too much.
	You know, you used to drink tea, now you're all wired on coffee.
	Yeah, yeah, I'm totally wired.
	It's a seven-page webpage interview with Lloyd Blankfein.
	He's the chairman and CEO of Goldman Sachs.
	These guys are on a PR rampage, I might add.
	And I'm still reading, it's a huge book, The Partnership, which is a pro-Goldman Sachs book, talking about how they, you know, what their culture's all about.
	And I have to say...
	Did you read that?
	You read that?
	No, I haven't...
	Dude, I haven't finished it.
	It's a big-ass...
	It's like Ayn Rand's Atlas Shrugged.
	Oh!
	He gets it in again.
	At one point in this interview, he says, Hey, I'm just a banker doing God's work.
	Which is almost as good as the ball cancer comment as far as I'm concerned.
	But fascinating to read about this company.
	And they really believe that they are doing good.
	And they really believe that it's awesome that they have all the, you know, that ex-Goldman Sachsers are in the Treasury and important advisors.
	And not just in the U.S., by the way, in the U.K. as well.
	And they think it's awesome.
	And they think that they're actually doing good.
	And I have to say, when you read through it, you know, it's...
	Well, compelling is not the right word, but if you read it from their point of view, you can see how kind of misguided they are.
	It's like, okay, I understand where you're coming from.
	They just care about money.
	That's all.
	Yeah, they don't care about the country or the people or anybody else.
	No, it's 100% about money.
	And if you believe in it, then fine.
	Yeah, it's their religion.
	So, people, I'm going to put this on the blog, and I think we'll post a link to the Lord Monkton.
	Oh, yes.
	He's been challenging Al Gore, hasn't he, now?
	Yeah, but he also has a nice, you know, apparently in the Appendix 1, page 34, something like that, it's in this crazy thing that they're going to do in Copenhagen.
	Well, yeah, this is what I've been telling you, is that they're going to sign this treaty, and if Obama signs it, then basically the sovereignty of the U.S. is gone, and with the whimsical call of the G20 or whoever...
	And this is to really, you know, cap and trade will look like peanuts compared to what's coming down with this thing.
	That's coming up December, I think, 8th through 16th or whatever.
	The Copenhagen treaties, which is all UN-based crap, is extremely frightening.
	Yeah, so take a look at this video and, you know, decide for yourself.
	This video?
	Complain.
	The video, Lord Moncton spoke on the 14th in St.
	Paul, Minnesota, and apparently went over the details of the sovereignty sign-up.
	And what are we doing instead?
	This December, weeks away, a treaty will be signed.
	Your president will sign it.
	Most of the third world countries will sign it because they think they're going to get money out of it.
	Most of the left-wing regimes around the world, like the European Union, will rubber stamp it.
	Virtually nobody won't sign it.
	I have read that treaty.
	And by the way, John, find me a copy of the treaty.
	I want to read that.
	I looked on their website.
	I couldn't find it at all.
	There's no link to any treaty.
	You don't want people looking at it.
	Well, I want to see it because this is what I love doing.
	This is why I take the money.
	They don't want you to see it.
	I want to read it.
	Please, somebody find that and email it to me.
	What it says is this, that a world government is going to be created.
	Yeah, okay, so he's just been listening to no agenda right there.
	I mean, that's no news.
	The word government actually appears as the first of three purposes of the new entity.
	The second purpose is the transfer of wealth from the countries of the West to third world countries in satisfaction of what is called coily a climate debt.
	Because we've been burning CO2 and they haven't and we've been screwing up the climate.
	We haven't been screwing up the climate, but that's the line.
	So wait a minute, John.
	This sounds like economic hitman time where they send the money over there, but they don't really send it.
	They send the money and say, well, you have this money and you can use it, but you have to use our Western companies and our Western financial system to take advantage of the finance, right?
	That would make sense.
	And the third purpose of this new entity, this government, is enforcement.
	How many of you think that the word election or democracy or vote or ballot occurs anywhere in the 200 pages of that treaty?
	Quite right, it doesn't appear...
	Okay, excellent.
	I'll put this in the show notes at noagendashow.com.
	Of course, I've seen this video.
	I have brought this up a couple times on the show, but now, of course, that it's too late for us to do anything.
	We have the video.
	Hey, film at 11.
	We have a world government.
	Stay tuned, film at 11.
	So if anyone can find this document, this Moncton dude.
	Hey, Mickey, you're really loud today, darling.
	People are now actually complaining.
	Shh.
	She is...
	Turn down your Mickey!
	You're supposed to be done by 11.
	You said you would be.
	No, she is anything but that, dude.
	No, I like doing that character.
	I don't care.
	Okay.
	Please, if you have a copy of this, send it to me, adam at mevio.com.
	And we could go on for quite a while, I guess, but I think, John, we shouldn't because I think our time is up.
	Yeah, I think our time is up.
	Yeah.
	But I want to remind people to go to dvorak.org slash na or no agenda show dot com and help us out for the next show that we do, which will be highlighting some, I don't know, what do you think is going to be happening?
	Oh, you're going to see V. I'm going to see V. And you know what we didn't do today?
	We didn't do a single story about swine flu.
	I'm very proud of us.
	Which is interesting because I have a story sitting here.
	I have like five stories.
	It'll be Swine Flu Thursday!
	It'll be Swine Flu Thursday, and we've got some good stuff, including government lies.
	Someone pointed out to me, actually it was Will the Hairdresser, he said, I love the swine flu because it actually means when pigs fly.
	I'm like, wow, that's pretty deep.
	Huh.
	Yeah.
	Isn't that funny?
	Yeah, it is funny.
	The swine flu when pigs fly.
	Yeah.
	There's something very deep in there.
	My brain is hurting from it.
	I think I need to make a new list.
	Yes.
	I'm on list 14.
	Coming to you from the Minimum Security Containment Cell, housing the Crackpot Command Center in Gitmo Nation, West San Francisco, California, I'm Adam Curry.
	And from sunny Silicon Valley north, where it rained a few days ago, but now it's sunny again, I'm John C. Dvorak.

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