So they've destroyed 450 tons of food in a starving area?
See, these numbers don't make any sense.
Adam Curry, John C. Devorak.
It's October 25th, 2009.
Time for your Gitmo Nation Media Assassination, Episode 142.
This is no agenda.
Under declaration of national emergency for the swine flu.
And coming to you from the minimum security containment cell in Gitmo Nation West...
It's San Francisco, California.
I'm the Crackpot, Adam Curry.
And from sunny northern Silicon Valley on the top of the hill, I'm John C. Dvorak.
It's Crackpot and Buzzkill in the morning.
It's sunny here too, John.
A little late.
What, for the sun?
No, for us to be doing the show.
We're 20 minutes behind schedule.
It's a Sunday.
The Church of No Agenda can only really commence when the high priests are ready.
What about us?
It just takes us a little while to get into it all.
Last night I went to...
Is it RN47? Is that the name of the restaurant?
Yeah.
Have you been there?
No, I've been meaning to go.
How is it?
It's not bad.
It's one of these places that...
It's in the Millennium Tower, which is a huge condo complex in San Francisco.
Yeah.
That's the Tower of Death, right?
No, no, no.
That's the Rincon Tower.
No, I thought the Tower...
Oh, okay.
No, no.
Rincon Tower is up on Harrison.
That's the Tower of Death next to the Bay Bridge.
No, this is the Millennium Towers.
So it's kind of a loft feel to it, but it's like, you know, it's one of these places where, first, it's not cheap.
So, you know, it's one of these top-of-the-range type loft-style places.
Who's it done by?
It's one of those famous dudes who put this one together.
Minna?
Minna, yeah, Minna.
And the music is just a little bit too loud.
You know, Minna lost both stars for Aqua.
They just came out.
I saw the stars that just came out.
No, I could only see...
Yeah, no, Minna lost his two stars that Aqua had undeservedly.
But, you know, I guess somebody finally figured that out.
And boom, they pulled the plug on him.
And then he lost one of his stars for the Michael Minna restaurant in the St.
Francis, which I don't think is deserving of a star either.
Because they pulled a bait-and-switch on me with a wine selection once.
It still irks me.
So this RN47 is supposed to have the great wine selection, which I did not sample at all, because, of course, I didn't have my wine bitch there to select an appropriate bottle.
You can always call.
So, the food was good, I'll have to say.
I had a pumpkin soup, which was really nice, and of course, in season.
And then I had to have this.
It was jumping out on me on the menu.
Liberty Farm Duck.
I'm like, yay!
Liberty Farm, Doc!
Yes!
Liberty Farm, Doc!
The incoming!
I was like, yeah, that's perfect.
It was really good.
But just the ambiance is just too light.
And they've built it like a train station.
And it was funny because I'm sitting there and we kind of had the Hollywood table at the very end, which was really, it's even quieter than the rest of the place.
And I kept hearing this...
I'm like, what the hell is that noise?
And I realize we're sitting underneath the schedule board, which is an old-fashioned, like in a train station, where the numbers and the letters actually flip over.
It's cool.
It's nice.
So what's on the board?
What does it say?
Does it have a menu on it?
No, it has places you're going to.
But you're not going.
We're not really going there.
Hey, this is a scam.
And it's like, if you've ever sat in a train station, this is one of the places you don't want to eat.
Ever.
So I'm not quite sure how it relates to fine dining.
But it's a theme.
Well, before we continue the show, I want to announce our executive producer for this week's show.
There's actually two people we could give kudos to, but we'll bring up the second one who's a new knight later.
But the executive producer is actually Sterling Ellsworth.
Okay.
Came in with a $77.77, and he made a note that this is the sixth time in a row he's given this money.
So one more time, right?
Then we'll never hear from him again.
Wait, wait, wait.
One more or 77 more times.
We don't know.
No.
After the next time, only 70 more times.
Right.
That's cool, though.
I mean, the guy's definitely been...
I've been donating a lot and it's highly appreciated.
So he is the executive producer of episode 142 of No Agenda.
It's almost like you can put an episode of Lost on your resume if you're the executive producer.
You know, you'll say episode like...
Yeah, that's what they do.
The Others Are Coming, that would be the episode title.
Right.
So wait until you see the show posted, then you'll know what the episode title is, and then you can put that on your resume.
Yeah, and we vouch.
Totally.
Anything you send us, we'll sign.
Unread.
Unread.
As long as it's not a blank check with my name on it.
Okay.
Where would you like to start, John?
Bank failures, swine flu, Afghanistan, drug running?
Let's start with something light.
Okay.
And I have a clip.
Nice.
So it seems as though Fox and the Obama administration have gotten into a pissing contest.
Yeah, this is kind of weird.
And, you know, I think our take is the same, John, that this is just a huge distraction, because you can't get it any better to distract the public...
From real news than having the news guys arguing with other news guys about news guys not being news guys because the president said so.
I mean, it's just my mind is like...
Yeah, I know.
It's actually quite humorous.
But meanwhile, and I don't know if they're doing this on purpose because I don't see how these people can afford these ads, but they're running on Fox, specifically on Fox, the following ad.
You can see it on there.
The Obama mention.
I think we should play it.
Change has come to America.
Our moment is now.
Yes, we can.
To commemorate the inauguration of our 44th president with a well-known American icon, introducing Ch-Ch-Ch-Chia!
Chia Obama.
This Chia Obama is a special edition and collector's item.
Just spread the seeds, water, and watch it grow.
Your Chia Obama is a symbol of liberty, opportunity, prosperity, and hope.
Chia Obama makes the statement, I'm proud to be an American.
display it on your desk in your home at your school Show pride and support with Chia Obama.
Get your collectible Chia Obama.
And with this special offer, order two Chia Obamas and shipping and handling is free.
Call toll-free.
So, you know, both Mickey and Christina, when they first saw this, because this has been running for quite a while on Fox, they both thought it was a spoof, that it was a spoof ad.
And I'm like, no, no, it's like a real ad.
But the more I hear it...
The more I'm thinking there's got to be some huge organization behind this who has actually just set this up as a spoof.
And they're actually shipping them out, obviously, because it's real.
Yeah, no, the thing has got Yes We Can carved into the side of it.
It's a stupid-looking thing.
You can get two versions, by the way.
You can get the pensive-looking Obama Chia or the Yes We Can Obama Chia.
There's two different kinds.
Anyway, they're running this ad on The O'Reilly Show, which is the most expensive of all these Fox News programs.
It's also my understanding that along with the Snuggie, this is the first or the second most successful product being sold in the United States at the moment.
Well, it's pretty unbelievable.
I went to the Seattle airport recently, and they have this cute shop, and it's called Fireworks or something like that, and they have all these trendy little things, and they have a whole bunch of Obama stuff.
They have Obama dolls, Obama action figures, and then they have this one, which is Obama.
I was going to buy them and give them to you as a gift, but they're like $7.
It just wasn't...
You're not going to spend seven bucks on me.
No, I'd spend seven bucks on you, but not for a little bitty can of mints.
But it says on the can it's Obama mints, and then on the side it says, Yes, we can D. Oh, man.
That's pretty bad.
So this brings to mind a question that I'm not quite understanding what the heck's going on here because doesn't Obama have rights to his image even if he's the President of the United States in so far as commercial products are concerned?
Shouldn't he be in touch with one of these licensing bureaus and be getting a piece of the action?
Well, yeah, you're presuming that he's not.
I am presuming that he's not.
No, I'm presuming that he is.
I'm presuming that he's not because somebody would have uncovered the deal.
I can't believe for a minute that someone hasn't written about this.
What does he get?
I get the sense that people are just doing whatever they feel like with the Obama image and they're just cranking stuff out and nobody hears from anyone.
I'm not thinking that.
I would think that as long as it's not disparaging, I bet you can get away with anything and it's highly encouraged by the administration.
I bet the moment you do a product that is...
Oh, like the Obama Chia?
Oh, that's totally cool, dude.
This is our culture.
This is the country of the pet rock.
What the fuck are you talking about?
I mean, come on.
It's all a part of the mind control.
It's good.
Think about the inherent benefits to the administration of the Obama Chia.
You're displaying it at school, which, by the way, that's huge.
To even say display it at school, whereas there was such a ruckus over the president doing a speech to the students of the country, now you want to display this thing at school?
No, I'm pretty sure that they're okay with it.
It's all a part of the cult of personality, which is what the setup is.
I'd like to find out for a fact instead of just suppositions.
Now, I think the thing that would sell to a lot of people would be Obama marionette.
I like it.
Let's do it.
Now you too can control the most powerful man in the universe.
Watch him dance.
And you can make the mouth move and have little health care, health care, health care.
Health care insurance reform.
That's cool.
Why don't we just make the commercial?
Maybe somebody out there would be glad to make it.
Oh, I'm sure someone would make it.
It's the Obama marionette.
Now you two can own a piece of history.
Now you two can be Rahm Emanuel pulling the strings from above.
Yes, we can.
Yes, we can.
I like it.
The Obama marionette.
Why don't we write the copy for it?
Think about all the cool things you could say.
Now this ancient art form comes to your living room.
Right.
Loved in China.
Now this ancient art form practiced in China for many years with all of our presidents.
I like it.
Then you have to have some little kid saying stuff, you know.
Make a note and eat it, please, so that we actually do that.
That is too funny.
That's a good point.
What else?
Well, I mean, there's a lot.
Well, the thing, I guess the top of the news in terms of using the public is one of our last-ditch efforts to get people to start taking the swine flu thing.
The national emergency.
Somehow it's become a national emergency.
And by the way, the death count is 1,000, and I think that's worldwide.
Which is about a good nine, you know, normally in the U.S. alone we have 36,000 from seasonal flu.
So this is not performing well.
Well, so there's a couple of very specific things about this national emergency, and I think we have different types of national emergencies.
This is actually the kind that, the exact same form of emergency that was signed just before Katrina hit.
It's usually used for hurricanes and that type of natural disasters.
And what it enables the health secretary to do, our friend Ms. Sebelius, is to do a couple of special things, such as set up other triage units outside of hospitals to treat patients and also get federal funding such as set up other triage units outside of hospitals to treat So I think the rule is if you – so let's say you don't want all these people who are puking and moaning and groaning.
You don't want them in the hospital.
So you can set up tents on the lawn and as long – and without this emergency proclamation, you can have tents within 250 feet of the hospital itself and federal funds can still be appropriated towards it.
Now with this, they can move it as far as they want.
And of course, I'm thinking FEMA camps.
That's the place to put the fuckers.
And the other part is the hospitals won't have to go through the rigorous forms that you have to fill out.
They can basically just say, what's your name?
And then they can treat you.
That's what I understand this to be about.
Oh, well, it could be.
But I was thinking this...
Yeah, go ahead.
I just don't see them lined up, you know, all these sick people lined up.
People go home, you know, they get the sniffles, they go home.
It's a short-lived flu.
A good flu lasts five days.
But this is also the thing.
If you watch television, which I desperately try to avoid...
You kind of get the idea that even the flu.gov is reporting widespread swine flu and it's 46 of all 50 states.
By the way, which ones aren't so I can go move there?
And you get the feeling that all these people are dying, and I'm just not seeing it in my vicinity.
I'm just not seeing it around me.
So we probably have, on any given day, four or five people out of...
So maybe...
7% of our workforce at Mevio is ill.
You know, okay, that's...
With any type of flu season, you can expect that.
I'm not seeing the whole company.
Yeah, and you have to wonder, though, how many people, you know, are either...
Are just staying home.
They're like, oh, I don't feel good.
I'm going to stay.
And you get the email.
I think so.
I think I've got the slide flow.
I love those emails.
Hey, I woke up not feeling too good.
Working from home today.
I hate those.
If you're sick, just be sick and shut up about it.
Sick is sick.
Don't give me this working from home.
Don't work.
If you're sick, don't work.
Please, please get better.
Don't work.
So yeah, I'm not seeing it either.
Although, you know, I've had this ongoing conversation and she finally blogged about it and actually undertook action.
Our friend Molly Wood over there at CNET, she actually Twittered.
She said, yeah, hell yes, I got my son vaccinated.
Sorry, Adam.
Like, you had to do that.
Sorry, Adam.
Like, you're the one guy who was telling her not to do it.
And she wrote this huge blog post.
And, you know, of course, everything that is, you know, like, oh, all these cynical people and we're all going to die, she points to everythingprisonplanet.com.
Oh, God, that works.
Yeah.
But everything is like, well, it's clearly not true.
And then she points to facts.com.
Factcheck.org.
I'm like, you know, anyone who uses factcheck.org as their absolute truth should be on the board of Wikipedia.
So, anyway.
So, did Molly get a shot, too?
No, even better.
And I have high respect, and I love Molly to death.
I don't think there's any reason we can't slam her.
I'm not going to slam her, but she's an excellent specimen of the mind control that has been exerted upon the populace.
Because she actually wrote, you know, I'm not getting my swine flu shot just yet because we don't have enough, so I'm going to wait until other children and pregnant mothers have had theirs and then I'll go get mine.
You should read it.
I'm above it all for now!
Oh, man.
I was just like, oh, boy.
Alrighty, then.
Did you know, by the way, and one of our producers sent this to me, there is an excise tax on the swine flu vaccine?
We were talking about excise taxes.
There is?
Yes.
What a scam that is.
We're supposed to be making the public healthy, not finding another excuse to tax them.
Well, check it out.
So this is, the title of this document is like, and this was released in, it's Form 720, which was revised in April of 2009.
And this tax is on weird shit, right?
I think we probably knew this, like aeroshafts, certain types of aeroshafts.
There's excise tax.
So the vaccine tax, very interesting.
So this is IRS number 97.
A tax is imposed on the sale or use of a vaccine manufactured, produced, or entered into the United States at 75 cents per dose if...
It contains, and then it has a whole bunch of, like, diphtheria, toxoid, tetanus, so basically every single vaccine that is out there, if it's against measles, mumps, rubella, hepatitis A, the rotavirus, gastroenteritis, or the human papamalavir virus, so the HPV, So essentially, the scam is so incredibly clear.
It's like, okay, healthcare industry, bio, big pharma, we're going to help you push this agenda through for giving boys anti-cervical cancer vaccines.
Boys.
And then we're going to charge you, and it also says right here, if it is a trivalent vaccine against influenza.
And then, here's how they do it, though.
And this is kind of cool.
If any taxable vaccine is combined with one or more additional taxable vaccines, then the tax is imposed on each vaccine included in the combination.
Example, MMR contains three taxable vaccines, measles, mumps, and rubella.
So the tax per dose on MMR is three times 75 cents is $2.25.
So, you know, there's like a huge tax on this vaccine thing.
So when they produce the 100 million doses, that amounts to about...
$70 million.
Or more.
Yeah.
A little more.
Yeah, $75 million.
Not bad.
No, not bad for a walk in the park.
There's also something called a lust tax, which I don't quite understand what that is.
Lust?
L-U-S-T. Lust tax.
Oh, on inland waterways fuel use.
So it must be some kind of fuel thing.
You know, if people really realize how much we are actually taxed.
Oh, dude, I'm telling you.
Personal income tax, 10% sales tax, 10% state income tax, 10% sales tax, 20-30% federal income tax, gasoline tax, excise tax here, excise tax.
Taxed there.
If you go to a hotel, you spend as much in taxes as you do for the room.
If you go to the airport, you're being taxed, taxed, taxed.
There's a million taxes.
The $49 ticket comes out to be about $65, which means $20 or so in taxes.
We must be doing...
Oh, we have low taxes in the United States.
Bullshit.
That's bull.
So the air transportation taxes...
They even have taxes for charter flights, and they've raised them, of course.
These have all gone up.
And they charge it per flight segment.
Here's an example.
They even provide examples, handy examples.
In January 2009, Frank Jones pays $265.20 to a commercial airline for a flight in January from Washington to Chicago with an intermediate stop in Cleveland.
The flight comprises two segments.
The price includes the $240 fare and the $25.20 excise tax.
Which is 10%.
Over 10%.
7.5%.
No, 7.5%.
It's 240 times 7.5%.
Plus 2 times $3.60 for which Frank is liable.
The airline collects the tax from Frank and pays it over to the government.
So the airlines are basically an extended arm of the IRS. Right.
Yeah, and also they're tax collectors, and aren't the airlines already paying tax on their fuel?
And if they make any profit, income tax?
Yeah, so they're paying taxes on their fuel, they're paying taxes on their profits, and then they're collecting bogus taxes from us, and that's all, if you count that as additional, because it's being passed to you.
I mean, the taxes that they're paying to the government for profits is just added into the fare, so you're paying that too.
I mean, I can't imagine why.
I mean, I wish somebody out there would actually, because I heard a guy go through a bunch of these taxes once in some talk show.
Didn't we have a producer who was working on that, trying to get us the true taxable tax rate for American citizens based upon all this stuff?
And he kind of went away.
He went off the radar, I think.
Anyway, use of international air facilities.
There's a $16.10 per person tax for flights that begin or end in the United States.
There's also attacks on communication and air transportation for use of local and teletype writer service.
I mean, it's crazy.
It's crazy.
Particularly if you're using a teletype writer.
You shouldn't be flying.
What are they doing with all this money?
They're just giving it to bankers.
I mean, I can't believe that this is going on.
Here's the thing that kills me, because this happens because I do all these shows like Cranky Geeks and things before that.
We'll be in a discussion, and invariably, one person, somewhere, well, I think they're going to have to raise taxes.
I don't think it's a bad thing, because we can afford it.
We have no taxes anyway.
There's people that actually advocate, as far as I'm concerned, if the word tax is in the conversation, I'm against it.
Because I realize that we're already taxed to death, and so why would you want to add to the burden?
I wish somebody would give us the number.
It's got to be 70% plus.
Close to it.
Last night, dinner was 9.5% state tax, and then another 2.5% tourist tax.
Dude, I live here.
I'm not a freaking tourist.
I've got to pay a tourist tax.
Oh, I never knew that.
In San Francisco, there's now another 2%.
So in other words, you're paying 12% tax on top of an 18% tip?
No, I gave 10.
I don't give 18.
It's like, I'm sorry, I can't afford your tip because of the taxes.
Let me just get back to the marketing of the...
Of the vaccine.
I'd like you to take a look at this link that I'm sending you, John, from MLB. That's Major League Baseball.
Major League Baseball.
You can join the I've Got the Flu Vaccine Sweepstakes!
Yay!
And get your free tickets to Game 4!
Look at the link.
Yeah, I see it.
And then our friend...
I've Got the Flu Vaccine Sweepstakes?
Yeah!
No purchase necessary, because it's free!
I guess you get a shot and then you get registered for Game 4 or something like that.
Yeah, your odds of winning are extremely lousy.
Yeah, if everyone gets it.
So Sebelius was pushing this thing on school kids, and they have a beautifully animated cartoon with a little song that goes along with it.
Now, seeing the animation is really...
And this is on the White House website, whitehouse.gov.
And the animation is just fantastic, but I want you to listen to the lyrics of this song because it is just freaky.
Hey kids, we're ready to roll.
Stopping that virus, that's our goal.
So come on everybody, we're getting the shot.
It might hurt a little bit.
Just a little bit.
But it's gonna help a whole lot.
Let's get the shot, Johnny!
Vaccination is a great opportunity Yes it is, yes it is To do something for yourself and your community Yes it is, yes it is The virus won't spread if we don't let it So roll up your sleeves and come and get it!
If I don't get the virus, I won't give it to you.
If you don't give it to me, I won't give it to her.
If I don't get it from her, I won't give it to them.
That's true!
If I don't get the virus, I won't give it to you.
Hey kids, we're ready to roll.
So the end is actually worth it, it's coming up.
So come on everybody, we're getting the shot.
It might hurt a little bit.
Just a little bit.
But it's gonna help a whole lot.
Hey kids, I'm ready to I'm ready for my show!
Now you see they're actually administering shots into these kids' arms.
So, isn't that the most sickening thing you've ever heard?
One of the things, by the way, as someone who knows how to administer a shot, it doesn't actually hurt at all.
No, you don't feel it.
A little pinch, maybe.
No, I've had people that you wouldn't even know this.
What?
Done?
Yeah.
You know, experts.
But, of course, you know, they're having pharmacists do these.
That's disgusting.
It really is.
Let me just read from the blog post.
On Thursday, October 21st, students, parents, and educators from the Washington, D.C. area joined Department of Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius for a screening of an episode of the animated series Sid the Science Kid.
So, of course, now they're also making it science, you know, just like Al Gore did with global warming.
You know, the science is in.
There's no disputing the science.
So this was hosted at the Department of Education.
They watched Sid and his classroom friends as they learned about the flu and visited the school nurse to get vaccinated for influenza.
And I'm thinking, you know, how come we haven't had this type of a drive for other vaccinations?
You know, for stuff, you know, like MMR as an example.
I mean, the push is so hard.
And to me, if I just look at the grand scale, and on the last episode of No Agenda, we looked at the pipeline for the four big pharmaceutical companies, in particular GlaxoSmithKline.
And the pipeline, it's all about vaccines.
It appears to be the future of big pharma is in vaccines.
They've got an AIDS vaccine, which of course probably doesn't work.
Probably.
You know, they've been pushing the HPV vaccine, which unbelievably, this anti-cervical cancer vaccine, now also being approved for boys who don't have a cervix, as far as I know.
If you haven't noticed, although...
Yeah, you never know.
It's just like, wow, this is it.
And people say, oh, you're an anti-vaxxer.
No, I'm not.
You're an anti-vaxxer.
I'm not an anti-vaxxer, but I do think that the idea...
The idea that kids get 20 to 30 vaccines before they can walk just seems wrong.
There's just too much going on here.
And I guess this is the future of healthcare.
Don't worry, it may hurt a little bit, but it'll help a lot.
Go ahead, bend over, bitch, and take the shot.
And that's going to save us all from everything.
But it's...
I don't know.
It's going to provide a lot of tax benefits.
Yeah, the tax benefits are clearly there.
Horowitz just sent me a note that says, supposedly massive orders for body bags on the Hush in the Northeast.
Oh, really?
I mean, there's always the body bags and the plastic coffins and all that stuff.
I think that's just a...
It's probably not that much on the Hush if he knows about it.
He lives in Florida.
Yeah.
And let's face it, it's Horowitz.
What does that mean he's thinking to himself?
He's listening on the iPhone, by the way.
I didn't know we can get the stream on the iPhone.
Yeah, we have this like three iPhone apps that you can get from the iTunes store.
We need to do an official one.
But anyway, I think this is a form of mind control that goes just beyond anything I would have expected out of our government.
It goes way too far.
It's gone way too far, but I don't think it's that...
I mean, it's kind of effective.
I mean, it obviously affected Molly Wood, who actually went through the work.
I mean, if normally, if somebody, like, for example, listening to you go on and on about something, and with some critique of the system and the way it works, normally people, I think, and I think the average...
Not the average listener to this show, but the average American.
We're either going to go, yeah, I'll get one or I won't get one.
They're not going to go into the kind of detail that requires them to start doing research on the Internet.
Well, the thing is, you get to the research on the Internet, and if you go to flu.gov, they've got these big things, big FAQs and big reality check stickers and logos and refuting everything that we've brought to light.
And the crazy thing is, if you read...
And this is such a red flag.
Let me go to flu.gov.
If you go to flu.gov and you go to the FAQs, and right at the top there is one of our main...
Oh, shit.
Hold on a second.
It was about the adjuvants.
How come they changed the site every single freaking day?
You know, so there's a question about adjuvants.
Hold on, I really want to get this.
I'm sorry.
Crap, they make this stuff so difficult to understand.
Oh, myths and facts.
Here it is.
Straight talk about the flu and you.
Can you believe the latest?
So here it is.
Here's the question.
The H1N1 vaccine includes adjuvants such as squalene.
And then here's the answer.
None of the H1N1 vaccines currently distributed by the U.S. government contains adjuvants.
So the word currently is important here.
That's the key word, yeah.
That's the bullshit.
So, and then all H1N1 vaccines used in the United States are licensed by the FDA are made in the very same way as seasonal influenza vaccines are made.
That's the meme.
Currently, seasonal flu vaccines in the United States are also made without adjuvants.
Then right underneath it, if needed...
Hello?
If needed, an adjuvant is a component that can be incorporated into a vaccine to help to generate a stronger immune response to the vaccine and help prevent disease.
Bullshit.
Squalene is a compound found in many natural sources, such as olive oil, that can act as an adjuvant and is used as an adjuvant in vaccines in many countries.
So, you know, they're setting you up right there.
They're saying, yeah, right now there's no adjuvants, but it's coming.
The evaluation of any vaccine by the Food and Drug Administration considers the safety, effectiveness, and the immune responses and includes consideration of all components of the vaccine.
So, essentially, they're saying it's not in there right now, but if needed...
So, what does that tell you?
If needed.
They don't say why it might be needed.
I know, it's just a vague kind of thing.
And I just don't understand all the...
The CDC releases their VIS statements, their vaccine information statement, and they say no one under two should get this, yet on flu.gov they're saying, hey, if your kid is six, no problem.
And you hear pregnant women shouldn't get it, and then, oh, pregnant women should get it.
Bad shit is going to happen, and it's already happening in Sweden.
There's tons of people getting sick, at least it's being reported, from the vaccine.
Have you been tracking this, John?
Not at all.
Nope.
Let me just find it here.
Yeah, it was like 100 people already taken ill.
I think a couple people died.
Here it goes.
People are dying of the vaccine in Sweden.
Of course, a lot of these reports are unfortunately in Swedish.
Makes it rough.
Makes it a little rough to actually check the truth in the summer.
I sound like the crackpot here.
But you'd think that at some point in history, like 10 years ago, we would have had the kind of tools and massive computing power that could actually do reasonably good machine translations.
But that's never happened.
And every time a good translation program or some superstar comes up with a good translation program or a guy, I've met some of these guys, to actually understand how to do it right, they all get bought up by some conglomerate and then the product just disappears off the face of the earth.
I can't tell you how many translation products have disappeared.
So I'm not sure what type of vaccine they are using in the kingdom of Sweden, but I do have a couple of links here to Swedish articles with the translations for you in English, and you'll find that in the show notes at noagendashow.com.
So, suspect death because of vaccine.
These are crude translations, obviously.
Suspicious deaths of vaccine medicine's agency is now investigating a death in which a A Hjartstuk patient fell ill with chest pains and died one day after vaccination against the swine flu.
Here, two people die soon after vaccination.
Two seriously ill people have died after being vaccinated against swine flu, so I don't know if they were already ill, but this was a 55-year-old.
Stronger side effects than other vaccines, another Swedish report.
So, you know, Sweden is definitely reporting something.
There seems to be something else.
We're reporting nothing.
Everything's great!
Yeah.
Or, as we like to say, don't look over here.
Nothing to see here.
Look at that!
There's one other theory that I really liked about the swine flu.
I've been looking for the bank holiday when, of course, everything closes and the banks are shut and that's when the dollar collapses, which is kind of the way it happened in the Great Depression.
We need that.
And all the conspiracy theorists and fellow crackpots are all looking for the bank holiday when it's all going to happen.
And then it kind of dawned on me, there's two things that could take place.
First of all, the banks could shut down because they are petri dishes!
Just petri dishes of swine flu, I tell you!
Shut all the banks!
That would not be outside the realm of possibility.
Yeah, you have to shut down sporting events first, and they're never going to do that.
Well, no, there's too much money.
But, you know, that would be like putting TSA on trains and subways.
I mean, that would be too crazy.
Terrorists don't actually attack those except in England and Spain.
But wouldn't it be interesting if we had to get rid of paper money because...
Well, that's a good one.
I like that.
Yeah, I get it.
Because paper money is covered with germs!
So, I think we all should go to plastic money.
No more paper money for you.
You need to use your debit and Visa card.
Well, actually, now that you mention it, you have to take it one step further, which is, if you remember, they've already preconditioned us for these new credit cards that don't need to be swiped.
They've got an RFID chip in them, and you just have to hold them near the device.
And sucks up the numbers.
Which would also be a beautiful way to kind of fix a lot of our monetary base problem.
Just get all the money in circulation out of circulation.
Keep it all on the computer where it's all completely manipulable.
Yeah, well, let's put it this way.
Thank God for the Chinese and the mob.
Why?
The Chinese are cash-oriented, and they're not going to put up with this crap.
And the mob is, hey, it's a cash business.
Yeah.
Well, take a look at this picture, John, which I'm going to send you a link to right now.
This came out yesterday as an official state portrait of the Obamas.
And I'm looking at this and I'm saying, what a piece of crap!
Who decided to take this picture?
There's doors open in the background.
Now, the Obama family looks beautiful.
They look fantastic there in the foreground.
But, you know, it's like it's in the green room or whatever.
And it's like there's no flags.
There's no nothing.
It's just like three chairs.
They threw them down.
You know, this was done by the famous photographer, Annie Leibovitz.
That's what blew me away.
This is an Annie Leibovitz picture?
Like, no way!
This is crap!
And you know what's funny about that?
There was some...
I was watching CNN or one of the channels and when this picture first came out and they went, It's an Annie Leib.
It was Annie Leib.
It was Annie Leib.
What a beautiful picture!
I've never seen anything like it!
It's the most beautiful picture ever made!
It's a piece of crap!
And the Obamas look great, but there's no lighting.
For Annie Leibovitz, I know she's hit on some hard times, but man, that she has to stoop to this to make this crappy piece of shit.
I'm embarrassed for my country for this to be the state portrait of the first family.
I'm truly embarrassed.
It's horrible.
I think you've made your point.
By the way, we're over with the swine flu discussion.
Hit the theme.
Yeah, okay.
You know, I got bored with it.
You caught me off guard.
I was fuming about Annie Leibovitz.
And she took it on the Canon EOS One.
Yeah, great.
You know, that's like, what happened to, you know, she'd be using like one of those, what are those, what's that big expensive camera called?
The Hasselblad.
Hasselblad, yeah, with a digital back.
That's what she should be using.
No, instead of that, she's using a Canon E. I don't, something's very wrong with that.
Maybe she had to sell her Hasselblad to pay taxes.
My favorite new congressman has got to be Alan Grayson.
Oh, that idiot from Florida?
I'm liking this guy more and more.
I really am.
Did you see him grill the attorney for the Federal Reserve?
No, I didn't.
I missed that one.
Did you tape it?
Yeah, hold on a second.
It's funny.
Federal Reserve ever tried to manipulate the U.S. stock market.
So there's almost no one there, by the way, in whatever committee this was.
And he's asking, and this lawyer, I mean, I've had lawyers.
This would not be my lawyer.
I'd be like, okay, you're a wimp.
Get the fuck out.
You're not representing me.
So this is supposed to be the head counsel for the Federal Reserve, and Grayson is grilling him.
It's a Grayson grilling on if the Federal Reserve has ever manipulated the stock market.
Now, of course, we all know the answer, but listen to this weasel guy who just can't seem to get out of it.
And Grayson, I have to say, is really grilling him, and I like it.
No, sir.
Not that I'm aware of.
Not that you're aware of, but you're the attorney, right?
That's right.
So you might not even know, right?
I would expect to know if there were something like that being done.
I'm not aware of that at all.
And if you did know, you'd be bound by attorney-client privilege and you wouldn't be able to tell us, right?
Sir, if there were something the Federal Reserve were doing outside its legal authority, I would have an obligation to say something about that.
All right, so we agree that any participation by the Federal Reserve in the stock market or the futures market is outside the Federal Reserve's legal authority, right?
The Federal Reserve has some authority to regulate various aspects of markets and participate in markets in certain ways, so I think your question is too categorical.
I think not, actually.
Why don't you answer it?
I don't know.
Your question is so overbroad, I don't know where to begin to answer that.
I don't think it's that overbroad.
I just like the guy's demeanor is funny.
You've got to admit.
Oh yeah, no, the guy's a laugh riot.
Anyway, so it's like a five and a half minute clip, but the two main things that come out of it is, hey, can we audit the gold?
Is all the gold on the Fed's balance sheet actually in the Federal Reserve?
And the guy says, yeah, so can we audit that?
The guy says, yeah, I guess you could.
But the big thing is he's saying, okay, so how does the Federal Reserve participate in the markets?
And then he goes into, yeah, well, for interest rates and jobs and all this shit.
And, you know, it's about the front running.
And, of course, finally, the attorney has to admit that JPMorgan Chase is actually executing trades for the Federal Reserve Bank of New York, which, of course, is a major part of the Federal Reserves.
So it's interesting, though.
I'm liking this Grayson guy.
He's a Democrat.
He's just kind of kooky, and he dresses kooky, and he smiles in that evil kind of way.
And he's new, right?
He's new to the game, I think.
Yeah, and they're trying to shut him up.
The Democrats hate this guy.
Well, maybe that's why I like him.
That could be.
He's cool.
Yeah.
He's cool.
I mean, he's amusing.
I find him amusing, but he's also full of shit.
I've heard him do stuff that's just like, what are you, crazy?
I don't take him too seriously, let's put it that way.
So my prophecy is coming true, although not entirely my own.
Of course, we know about the Trilateral Commission and the entire concept of having a European Union, an American Union, and an Asian Union, and then bringing those three together into a one-world government.
with one huge central bank and one central world government and we're getting pretty close to the North American Union with Canada and Mexico and the United States and in Thailand just yesterday Asian leaders pledged to overcome their differences and push towards the formation of an EU style community as they wrap up their annual summit in Thailand on actually today So there you go.
They're going to build the Association of Southeast Nations, which already exists, of course, and they're going to make that into its own political and economic community by 2015.
So there you will have your trilateral.
Yeah.
What about the poor saps in South America?
Don't they get a piece of the action?
Or Africa?
Yes, not.
No, the African Union already exists.
But they just need to shut up and sit down and just give us your minerals.
South America is going to have to form some giant country.
Like they're not giant enough already?
Well, I'm just saying.
I mean, the way it's working, you know, you still have Chile is by itself, it's very small.
And Peru is by itself, it's not that big.
Ecuador.
A lot of these countries hate each other, though.
It's kind of a problem.
Which is also a problem, by the way, in the EU, which is going to result in a civil war.
That's my prediction.
Yeah, I think you might be spot on about that.
And it'll be kind of par for the course, right?
Yeah, no, it's just another version of the French hating the Germans.
So why don't you play...
The guy that, this British guy who wrote the book.
Oh, I saw this.
Obamaland?
Yeah, I had to edit this way down because I didn't realize until I listened to this interview that Beck is one of the world's worst interviewers.
Well, because the questions can't be scripted.
He actually has to think when he goes to ask a question, so he's got like bullet points or something, some version of that on the project?
Yeah, well, the guy's jumping in, jumping in, and Beck is goofing around, making jokes, you know, and the guy's got a lot of good things to say.
I got...
I cut most of the Beck stuff out of the interview because it was like I got about three minutes out of this interview, and the thing went for at least 12 minutes.
It's mostly Beck goofing around.
I mean, he's talking about, you know, he's making jokes and puns.
Well, at the same time, he's sympathetic with this guy's point of view, but I thought the guy had a few really interesting things to say about England.
It's so funny you say that, because I watched this interview, and I didn't know about the book, and I have ordered it, although I've lived the book, and you probably have it in there about the trash bins.
Yeah, that's at the end.
I have that, too.
I won't give that one away, but this does completely come back to my assertion that Europe, and actually in particular the United Kingdom, is the beta test for what we're about to go into here in the United States.
Which is what this guy's thesis is.
Yeah.
I guess.
But for how long?
Here's James Dellingpole, author of Welcome to Obamaland.
I've seen your future and it doesn't really work.
James, welcome to the program, sir.
Hey, Glenn.
Thanks for having me.
And by the way, the guy looks so freaking goofy.
Yeah, he's great.
He looks like he should be on The Daily Show.
For a moment there, you were watching a guy like, is this a joke?
Is this like part of the, we're going to see the Obama Chia Pet ad next?
Or what is this guy?
But he's serious.
Sure.
Do you watch this program over in England at all?
By the way...
That is...
I mean, like, he doesn't know that Fox News is available on Sky.
You know, owned by the owner of Sky.
I mean, Glenn Beck, you're a disc jockey, man.
Stop it.
Yeah, we're quite big fans of...
We're bigger fans of Fox over here than President Obama is, I think.
Yeah, okay.
Yeah, quite cult viewing.
I didn't know if you knew what you were getting into here over here.
I know you're a wild and dangerous guy, Glenn.
Yes, I know.
It's crazy.
Okay, what I wanted to You say you've lived the Obama plan.
You've seen our future.
Tell me a little bit about the future.
Yeah, I am like your Nostradamus, because what you're experiencing now in America, we've been living for the last 12 years, first under the Obama prototype, the grinning monkey Tony Blair, and secondly, under the aging Politburo chief Gordon Brown.
I like that comment.
The Politburo chief.
That was good.
That was really good.
And we've experienced socialism, and this is what's going to happen to you, I'm afraid.
By the way, the fact that he's calling it socialism kind of bummed me out, because it's a different form.
It's corporatism.
It's not really socialism.
Yeah, which is fascism, as a matter of fact.
Yes, it is.
And I wish that people would get that straight, that it's fascism, maybe corporatism is a little softer word to use, but it's not really socialism.
We're having problems because they're now saying...
There were these two women that were like, I'm going to drop my son or daughter over to your house, and then they'll get on the bus at your house, etc., etc.
And the state came in and said, you can't do that.
That's a daycare.
You have rules for carpools if you're going to take a bunch of kids to...
To school, right?
Yeah, we have kind of a pedophile czar over here now, more or less, where there are 11 million adults in this country who have to get checks done on them.
They have to pay 70 pounds, I think it is.
They have to submit to this six-month bureaucratic process.
Scoutmasters, anyone who works with kids, anyone who takes them around in a bus, they have to be checked.
Yeah, this was reported on no agenda.
We talked about this, if you'll recall, John, that this was the new rule that was set into place.
If you are going to be involved with more than two kids, not your own, then you have to go through this check to make sure you're not a pedophile.
So if you've got to drive the kids to the football match, you have to go through a check.
Indeed.
They're allowed near a child in case they molest them.
70 pounds, what is that?
Is that about $4,000?
That's our joke.
Yeah, really.
He's totally taken.
Everyone's taken our punchline.
Yeah, exactly.
It's about $100.
All right.
Fox hunting, they're taking away your right to fox hunting.
I can't believe you left that one in.
I should have taken it out.
Yeah, who cares?
I'll tell you one thing about fox hunting, though.
Since they banned that, the fox hunting, dude, there were foxes everywhere, on the street, during the day these foxes are walking around.
They're vermin.
They're no good.
They're evil, dirty, and disgusting, and dangerous.
Yeah, they are dangerous.
Really, there's foxes all over the place?
Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
Well, that's probably why they instituted fox hunting as a hobby in the first place.
Of course.
It was probably culturally necessary.
Of course.
Oh, the poor foxes!
We can't kill the foxes!
Red for danger, amber for kind of worrying, green for...
This is about the supermarkets.
...and nice and healthy.
Get to the bins.
Germany, they had similar health warnings, you know, like Coca-Cola was considered unsuitable for the Kinder in Germany.
It's the same over here now.
And I think you should all be very, very afraid of the cap and trade bill.
The porculous package was a rehearsal.
The Cairo surrender monkey speech was a rehearsal.
The Obamacare was a rehearsal.
The really bad thing, the thing that's going to ruin your lives in America is cap and trade.
Over in Europe, it's done.
Yeah, because the EU loves the idea of cap-and-trade because it's a way of imposing supranational controls over sovereign nations.
You know, you have unelected officials declaring how much carbon business is allowed to produce.
So, you know, you have no control over these unelected officials.
They increase your taxes, they increase regulations.
You know, we have...
We now have sort of spy devices in our dustbins, in our trash cans as you call them, in order to monitor how much waste we dispose of.
This all comes from the European Union.
Right.
And that is absolutely true.
They have little devices and they determine the weight.
And they've actually started out first by giving people smaller, they call them wheelie bins, smaller trash cans.
So they reduced the size.
And you can't just put a trash bag out on the street.
It has to be in a bin.
And you can't have more than, I think, two bins per house.
Put your shoes in a bin.
Yeah.
Yeah, exactly.
And it was in combination with this, which I think aired, was it maybe Friday show, I think, or Thursday or Friday show?
And I don't see it every single day, but I did catch this.
In combination with, and I know how you're going to respond, John, but I actually took the time to watch it all two and a half hours of the new Alex Jones documentary, The Fall of the Republic.
And I would encourage anyone listening to No Agenda to actually, if you can sit through it, because two and a half hours is too long for anything.
That's the mistake that Alex Jones made, is this thing is just too damn long.
I forced Mickey to watch it.
And actually, I didn't have to force her at all, because after 10 minutes, she was like, huh?
Huh?
And essentially, every single clip you've heard played from C-SPAN on this very program, he has amassed into two and a half hours, interspersed with some interviews, of which the best, I think, is still Max Keiser, and there's a couple other, you know, Gerald Salente, which is, you know, the kind of kooky people...
It's sprinkled throughout this documentary, but what's cool about it is you'll literally see President Obama then as candidate Obama saying, you know, there will be no signature signing statements on any bills that come through Congress, and then boom, you get a report of his first signing statement.
Transparency, boom, no transparency.
Bills will be online, boom, bills are not online.
All this stuff, we're going to do away with this, and then he actually ups the ante.
Because it's C-SPAN, and if you don't know what C-SPAN is, you kind of don't even know what the hell you're looking at.
But the point of the Jones documentary is indeed the global warming or climate change as it had to be renamed because of course it's actually cooling and not warming.
That is, I have to agree, is probably the worst thing that is coming down the pike here.
And that is where we will be totally enslaved for essentially breathing.
Yeah, well I'm not going to get any argument from me.
And it's upsetting when you think about it.
Although there are some good reports that less and less people believe that...
This, by the way, I think it was Pew or one of these guys that came up with the fact that the numbers of people that are buying into climate change has really decreased by a lot.
I think it's going so fast.
I think it's best to put somebody in a panic mode to just ramrod some stuff through before they can't get anyone to agree to it.
So I think we're going to see real action.
Yeah.
Well, it's kind of scary, though, because when you look at some of this video of Al Gore and how he gets into people's face, of course, you're not just someone who doesn't believe that climate change is really what they say it is.
You are a denier, of course, equating you to a Holocaust denier.
Yeah, well that denier thing kind of backfired.
Well, it was a little scary.
Here, number of Americans who believe in climate change drops, survey shows.
Only 57% of Americans feel the planet's atmosphere is warming.
That is a fall from 77% two years ago.
And that's from the Pew study that you referenced there, John.
So it's still 57%.
But, you know, there's...
It's so hard when people are so hypnotized by the media.
And by the way, 16% of all news coverage in the past week was about Balloon Boy.
Seriously, 16% of all news coverage was about Balloon Boy.
Doesn't that just tell you right there that something is incredibly wrong?
So you've got a lot of people out there who are trying to spread some kind of alternative message, and we do a lot of work on that.
Here's John cutting down, I mean, first of all, the pain of having to sit through Glenn Beck's show.
John, I'm humbled in your presence of not only doing that, but then going to edit it.
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Worse!
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He gave us a pseudonym to use?
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He's a spammer, that guy.
Yeah.
Here's the message.
Self-described crackpot Adam Curry rips into my OCD over swine flu on no agenda minute 78.
Some fair points.
He's a sport.
I've got to give him that.
Well, if he gets anybody to listen to the show, he can afford it.
I mean, that guy's loaded.
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What kind of regard do you have for The Examiner?
Which one?
Well, Examiner.com.
The Examiner.com, I believe, is an actual online outlet of some newspaper back east.
Yes.
Do you hold that in any regard, as in...
I don't find it to be a tool of propagandists any more than any other journalistic endeavor.
Okay, then you won't mind me paraphrasing a bit from an article.
When I read it, I was like, huh, this is kind of what I wanted to talk about on the show on Sunday.
And here it is in more or less a national public, well certainly it's on the internet, international.
And this is kind of a throwback to the bombing of the moon bases, which we got a lot of response to.
Yeah.
An official announcement by the Obama administration disclosing the reality of extraterrestrial life is imminent.
Oh, boy!
Wait a minute, there's that one, and wait, the other one to follow up to this, by the way, is the announcement of the anti-gravity device.
What?
You keep saying that, but when I start flying over your house, you'll shut up, alright?
Oh yeah.
I'll remain mum.
For several months, senior administration officials have been quietly deliberating behind closed doors how much to disclose to the world about extraterrestrial life.
Dissatisfaction amongst powerful institutions such as the U.S. Navy over the decades-long secrecy policy has given a boost to efforts to disclose the reality of extraterrestrial life and technology.
And then the article, it's interesting because I think probably what the guy did, and this was written by...
Michael Salia, Ph.D., I might add.
I travel in certain crackpot-ish circles, and all of this stuff is pretty much what I've been reading as well.
So here we go.
Over the period February 12th to 14th, 2008, the United Nations held closed-doors discussion where approximately 30 nations secretly agreed upon a new openness policy on UFOs and extraterrestrial life in 2009.
The openness policy was implemented but never publicly announced to do threats against UN diplomats.
And there's all links here to different sources that would explain where these assertions come from.
And, of course, a lot of references to Coast to Coast AM, which you may or may not listen to that.
You may or may not believe in it.
However, this is what I've also been hearing, that the plan is...
Either the end of 2009 or early 2010, official disclosure will most likely emerge in either one of two scenarios.
One is President Obama will announce the existence of extraterrestrial visitors and describe one or more of these to the world.
Or, or, shut up, an announcement will be made concerning the discovery of artificial structures at the moon's south pole as revealed by the LCROSS mission.
Because, of course, what happened was, the reason why we didn't see any debris is they tried to bomb this moon base, but they bombed one of the bigger buildings, and it went right into it, and so there was really no big dust cloud or anything.
And so, you know, Obama being, you know, heading up the Security Council of the UN goes right along with this because, of course, you know, we have to not be afraid of the extraterrestrials.
And even in the spiritual circles, there's talk of this happening very soon.
And if you look around at the reports, and they're always laughed and scoffed at, there's enhanced activity in UFO sightings around the world.
That is undeniable whether the sightings are real or not.
It does seem to be a lot more reporting in alternative news, and of course not, well, unless you want to count Balloon Boy.
And, of course, we can thank ABC and Disney for all this promotion because V is coming out shortly, within a few weeks, and we want to bring our awareness up.
And the movie 2012 is hitting theater, so, you know, it's obvious we've got to be prepared for it.
But if it happens, John, wouldn't that be wicked?
Why would it be wicked?
But wouldn't you just have to eat some crow?
Yeah, sure.
I've got a lot of crows around here, by the way.
I wouldn't mind shooting one and eating them.
I come into the house the other day, and I walk up the back steps, and this huge red-tailed hawk takes off from the deck.
He was sitting there.
He ate a seagull.
Oh, no!
Yeah, I mean, he ate the whole bird whole, I guess.
He attacked it?
He killed it and ate it.
Jeez.
And you saw this?
No, I didn't.
I only got to the end of it, and the entire deck is covered with seagull fur and feathers.
Oh, I'm saying it's time again for John C. Dvorak's famous pulled pork.
All right, let me give you a couple of real quick ones.
And then we should do another one of your clips.
In the continuing amazement about what is actually going on in Afghanistan, and you'll have to go to the show notes at noagendashow.com, the Boston Globe, I guess, at boston.com?
I think that's the Globe, yeah.
they have pictures of our servicemen and women in Afghanistan.
So for this beautiful high-res pictures, you don't see a lot of that actually from Afghanistan.
So first you see a C-17 dropping military supplies, and then these military supplies drop into a poppy field.
And then the next picture is, you know, so a whole bunch of pissed off Afghan farmers saying, yo, dude, like you dropped your shit on my poppy field.
And the caption here literally says the Marines are promising to pay him for his damaged poppy crop in compensation for the accident.
Wow!
Yeah, it says it right there.
It says it right there.
And the Marines are just kind of standing there.
It's like, I don't understand.
Aren't we supposed to be eradicating the poppy fields?
Isn't that a huge problem?
And of course, John, you and I know that that's actually not true, is that we're there to protect the poppy fields.
But when you see this picture, it's like, literally, oh, dude, I'm sorry, man.
We didn't mean to mush your crop.
Classic.
Yeah, and then NPR has...
Of course, nobody picks up on this, right?
No.
Well, the Boston Globe just reports it, but it's not even like, uh-huh, excuse me, what's going on?
And then here's a report from NPR that it looks like in Kandahar and other provinces, they're really upping the cannabis production.
Yeah, here, let me read you something from a report that came out.
This is one of these government reports.
Or this is a report on the report.
In the first half of 2009, according to the report, military operations destroyed more than 90 tons of chemicals used in the production of illicit drugs, 450 tons of opium poppy seeds, which, by the way, I wanted to talk about, 50 tons of opium, 7 tons of morphine, 1.5 tons of heroin, and 19 tons of hashish. 1.5 tons of heroin, and 19 tons of hashish.
And 27 laboratories, which are shacks mainly.
So when are they...
We didn't even know about the hashish.
And hashish is nothing more than the oil that you pull off of the cannabis plant.
Yes, it's kind of just a concentrated...
It's a goo.
Yeah, it's...
What do you call it?
Yeah, goo.
It's hashish is what it is.
It's hashish.
It's not like a hashish plant.
You know, it comes from the same plant.
It's dope.
Yeah.
Now, wait a minute.
Here's the thing that's interesting to me.
They destroyed more than 450 tons of opium poppy seeds.
Now, why would they do that?
Opium poppy is 450 tons, by the way, of seeds.
And you know what a poppy seed weighs?
Yeah, I mean, the 450 tons, you could fill up Giant Stadium 20 times with that before it weighs 450 tons.
You could, but the thing is, it's a nutrient, and it's used in...
You know, if you have a poppy seed bagel, those are the poppy seeds that are used.
And this is actually food.
So they've essentially...
It's food.
It's food.
You're right, you're right.
So they've destroyed 450 tons of food in the starving area.
See, these numbers don't make any sense.
Yeah, and where's that report from?
Well, this came out of...
This is actually from last week, so I probably lost the beginning of it.
This was a...
An article that was, I think, run by Reuters.
But it was about a government report.
It was just a report of a report.
Well, you're right.
The numbers don't add up, and I think we should just stick to our assertion that the military surge is all about protecting the poppies for the harvest, which is coming up.
And by the way, NATO has now decided that it's a good idea to send more troops.
So, of course, that's just backing up McChrystal's, Lithium Crystal's plan there to send in more troops for the harvest.
And someone else sent us a map of where all these camps are.
And again, these camps are surrounding the poppy fields.
And they're just not destroying them.
Look at the pictures in the Boston Globe.
Just look at the pictures.
They're not destroying them.
And isn't it convenient that now the marijuana production It's being upped in Afghanistan, and since we've got all these planes flying the opium over anyway, might as well throw a couple of bales of weed on there.
Isn't it convenient that now in California, all of a sudden, nationwide, the feds are relaxing the rules on medical marijuana?
Isn't that convenient?
Well, they've got to do something.
I think, of course, eventually they've figured out that they can tax this stuff.
Well, yeah, and I'm all for that.
But why don't you just be honest about it, legalize it, and get our freaking troops out.
We can grow poppy here.
It would be great!
It grows everywhere.
The stuff's amazing.
And it's one of the prettiest plants you've ever seen.
And it's food!
And there's food.
It makes food.
It makes food!
Sheila Bear.
Is the chairman of the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation.
And she has a message, John.
A message of hope and a message of self-assuredness.
You do not have to be worried.
You do not need to run on your bank.
Everything is good.
Enjoy your shopping experience, please.
Here is her message.
I'm Sheila Baer, chairman of the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation.
By the way, she's wearing a red jacket.
So you know she's important in the administration.
She's in the club.
She's in the club, yeah.
As we pass the 100th bank failure of 2009...
I love it.
Hey, only 100 banks of 2009 have failed, so let's talk about that.
The FDIC has been receiving more public inquiries about deposit insurance and how it works.
And, of course, we know that they've already announced they're going to be borrowing money back from the banks in order to fulfill their obligations, but listen to how she explains it, and you tell me if these numbers add up, John.
I want to take this opportunity to reassure consumers that their insured deposits are absolutely safe.
In fact, as long as depositors are under the insurance limits, their money is fully protected no matter what happens.
This has been the case through each and every failure this year and will be the case in the future.
Throughout the FDIC's 75-year history, no insured depositor has ever lost a penny of insured deposits, and none ever will.
You got to see the smirk on her face when she says that, by the way.
200 banks in this country.
Some banks continue to face serious challenges, but the overwhelming majority will weather this economic storm.
There are many signs that our economy is recovering, and as the economy heals, so will the banking system.
Until the healing process is complete, there will be more bank failures.
You know, there's a lot of psychological shit in there when she talks about the healing process.
That's disturbing language.
The healing process.
We've been hurt, and the healing has to take place.
However, the number of failures we are experiencing is significantly lower than those the FDIC has handled during past crises.
For instance, in 1989, during the height of the so-called SNL crisis, 534 institutions were closed.
Depositors should understand that the chances of their bank failing...
She's actually mixing the numbers there because I think it was 180 banks, but the 100 banks that have failed does not count all of the branches, all of the individual offices.
If you count that, it's like 2,000.
And here she's saying with the savings and loan, it was 500, but that was including all the branches.
So she's mixing up the numbers.
...are low.
And even if their bank does fail, depositors have nothing to worry about.
The FDIC fully guarantees their insured deposits and provides them with seamless access to their money.
Okay.
For the insured depositor, a bank failure is a non-event.
People sometimes ask about our financial resources.
Hey, how about your financial resources, Ms.
Blair?
And where we get the money we need to protect depositors.
Our resources come from insurance premiums, which are paid by the banking industry.
Now, that makes sense, right?
That's the way it's supposed to work, right, John?
The banks pay insurance premiums, and that money is stored up, and that's supposed to be kept, and that's used in case there's a problem, right?
That's the way it works.
Okay, well, let's see how it actually works.
We also have substantial authority to borrow from the U.S. Treasury Department.
Which means, uh, isn't that from, like, the taxpayers?
Yeah.
Okay.
We are the government.
You have nothing to worry about.
Please enjoy your banking experience.
Insurance guarantee is backed by the full faith and credit of the United States government.
Yeah, that's rich.
It's backed by the full faith and credit of the United States government.
In short, we cannot run out of money.
Ha!
Bank failures do cost money, and those costs have recently been high.
What is the point of this?
Well, I want you to listen to how she's bullshitting about where the money's gonna come from.
I thought we already knew that.
What I'm concerned about is this big nurse style that she exhibits.
Well, of course.
It continues.
Refunded reserves have declined.
Our resources run deep.
At the end of the second quarter, our total reserves...
Why does she have to go on and on?
It's over.
What is the point of all this?
Is she giving coded messages to somebody?
This has gone on by at least 15 seconds too long already.
You don't want to hear the rest?
Well, is it any good at the end?
Because I'm already getting annoyed by the length of it.
Oh, I like the fact that you're getting annoyed.
Let me continue.
So at over $42 billion, we review the adequacy of those reserves every quarter and make adjustments as warranted.
Based on our cost projections, we have asked that the banking industry prepay three years' worth of insurance premiums, which will bring in another $45 billion by the end of the year.
So, all right, I'll stop it here.
It goes on?
Oh yeah, it goes on for another minute.
Who is she supposed to be talking to?
To the people who are concerned.
She's just confusing with a whole bunch of bullshit numbers like $42 billion, $45 billion.
I don't think $100 billion covers all the deposits up to $250,000 in all banks of the United States of America.
I don't think that covers it.
Yeah, well, she discovers all the ones that are going broke, maybe.
But whatever the case is, it sounds like a bunch of horse crap anyway.
And then she, well, she winds it up, and I'll spare you, she winds it up by saying, we have a line of credit with the Treasury for half a trillion dollars.
No, she doesn't!
That would mean we'd have to raise another half a trillion dollars in taxes.
And just, I just have to, just let me play the end for you.
I mean, it's just so, the wrap-up is beautiful.
...coverage to learn more by going to the FDIC's Electronic Deposit Insurance Estimator, or ED. It can be found at myfdicinsurance.gov.
Myfdiinsurance.gov.
You have a personal portal for your world of the FDIC. Let me say again, no insured depositor has ever lost a penny of insured deposits, and none ever will.
The FDIC was created specifically for times like these.
Our resources are strong, And your insured deposits are absolutely safe.
Thank you.
Please enjoy your banking experience.
Everything is okay.
You know, there's a bunch of new propagandistic techniques that are appearing at This soft-spoken big nurse thing is one of them, but the one that I'm starting to see more and more of, and you have the clip there, is epitomized by this Adver commercial, and I want you to run the commercial, and then I'll tell you what you'll figure it out when you listen to it.
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Six years.
I've had asthma forever.
I never knew why my asthma symptoms kept coming back.
Kept coming back.
Or that I could help prevent them in the first place.
The problem was that my controller medicine was treating only one main cause of asthma symptoms.
But there are two.
Airway constriction and inflammation.
Unlike most controllers, Advair treats both main causes.
Advair treats both main causes, and that helps prevent symptoms in the first place.
Advair contains salmeterol.
Salmeterol may increase the chance of asthma-related death, so Advair is not for asthma that's well controlled on another controller medicine.
Advair will not replace fast-acting inhalers for sudden symptoms and should not be taken more than twice a day.
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Advair.
Now you know.
Okay.
So there's this technique they're starting to use.
I find it kind of interesting where you don't have a spokesperson anymore.
You have a myriad of people from various walks of life, each one of them throwing in their two cents worth.
So there's an appeal to a broader proportion of the viewer.
In this case, you've got a black guy, a Chinese guy, a Mexican woman, a haughty black woman, an easygoing person.
Practical black woman, a cool dude, a white chick, a black...
And it just goes...
And they each have bing, bing, bing, bing, bing.
And so it sounds like it gives you the impression that, for one thing, everybody's united in this one single thought.
It's the United Colors of Benetton.
It's exactly what it is.
Yeah, so there's two things that bother me about these commercials.
At Mevio, we have Nutrisystem now as a sponsor on programs except for this one.
And the amount of legalese and legal things we have to adhere to Set out by some covenant with the FDA is unbelievable.
And the one thing you definitely can't do is you can't have someone say, hey, you know, this really changed my life, unless that person has absolutely gone through the program and it changed their life.
And the people in these commercials, to me, they're just actors.
And I don't know where the disclaimer is, but they seem to be getting away with a lot of shit that smaller companies can't.
Does that make any sense?
Yeah, there was a lot of research.
There was a whole special on how these ads for drugs became so popular because somebody tried it once and they discovered that initially you couldn't mention the drug without the disclaimer so they just started being vague about a drug without mentioning it and sales went from something like $400,000 a year to $80 million or something.
Yeah.
And just on vague assertions.
And so everybody's gotten into the act.
So they have studied this to death and they've gone over the line.
I'm totally convinced that, yeah, there's probably a bunch of requirements that these guys have gotten around.
For one thing, if you look at the technique of having all these different people speak, they're just short, vague generalities about nothing.
Yeah.
And then they have the one spokesperson come on with all the disclaimers, and then they jump back into a series of jump cuts, visual and vocal jump cuts that don't really connect to anything.
There's no real story being told in any traditional sense.
I don't know.
Here's the thing, John.
We're not learning from this.
This is the thing that's dumb.
We're not learning from these tricks, and we're not applying them to our own programming.
We need to have a United Colors of Benetton commercial for No Agenda, and it needs to go viral.
And we need to have it running right after the Chia Pet commercial.
How about the Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak Chia Pets?
I mean, we're really not playing this well.
And we need a mantra.
Just like, yes we can, yes we can.
The people of the world are...
You don't think in the morning does it?
Yeah.
In the morning, I will obey.
No, you know, it's like whenever someone, when people are watching television, they get these messages uploaded to them like we're computers and we're completely open to all of this messaging.
And we should be able to do something with that.
We should be able to use the same brains that are swallowing up all this bull crap and program them differently.
Don't you think?
Well, yeah, it would be nice.
We're not that good.
No, it's clear that reason doesn't work.
We've got to come up with some other way to do it.
We're failing.
We are totally failing.
Well, in case you didn't know, the only thing we do know how to do is apply our formula.
Our formula is this.
We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
And it doesn't seem to be working very well.
We're not hitting hard enough.
We've got to hit a lot harder.
All right, let's wrap this up, my friend.
Well, let me play one more.
I've got one more clip that would be kind of wrapping these up, because I've been trying to keep up with, and I have them all backed up.
Don't tell me.
The czar?
No, no, we'll save that one.
Okay.
This is shorter.
The show Admin, which is a very interesting show, to say the least.
If you can follow it, I don't recommend people getting into it late.
You just won't get it.
What show is this?
Admin.
Admin?
Sorry, Madmin.
Oh, Madmin.
Yeah, Madmin.
I've been watching Madmin.
So I think the one thing that makes the show interesting is this ice queen, this beautiful ice queen wife for the main character.
Yeah, that's Draper's wife.
Yeah, Betts.
Yeah.
And Draper's wife.
And I think the whole show is summarized by this quote from her that I pulled off the show from about two weeks ago, two, three weeks ago, which to me was her in a nutshell.
And I actually kind of summarized the show.
Here we go.
What's wrong?
What's wrong?
I hate this place.
I hate our friends.
I hate this town.
That's the whole show.
That's the whole show.
I hate this place.
I hate our friends.
I hate this town.
I've seen her in some other stuff, and she's kind of ice queen-y in Mad Men.
She's smoking hot when she unties her hair and she kind of looks hip.
Yeah.
Yeah.
She's a pretty good actress.
But she plays this character that is just like, wow, can you imagine being married to somebody like this?
Yeah, no wonder you had Draper screwing around.
Unbelievable.
But anyway.
So you don't want to do Ron Bloom?
I think it's funny just because his name is Ron Bloom.
Okay, well, Ron Bloom, this is an out-of-context clip.
I don't know where it came from, and I don't know what he's talking about.
Everyone's using it.
Everyone's playing this clip because it shows the guy's just a hater of capitalism, and he's our manufacturing czar.
Wasn't he in charge of GM for a moment there?
I thought that they put him in charge of GM. And then they took him off and they turned him into the manufacturing czar.
That could be.
I should have done more research on the character, but it makes you shake your head when you listen to him.
Oh, sorry.
Wrong one.
Generally speaking, we get the joke.
We know that the free market is nonsense.
We know that the whole point is to game the system, to beat the market, or at least find someone to pay you a lot of money because they're convinced that there is a free lunch.
We know this is largely about power, that it's an adults-only, no-limit game.
We kind of agree with Mao that political power comes largely from the barrel of a gun.
And we get it that if you want a friend, you should get a dog.
No, dude, I don't get paying you a lot of money so they can get a free lunch.
Free is not giving a lot of money out.
So, I mean, that's a non-sequitur, right in the middle of the whole thing.
And the whole thing is like, what is he talking about?
I have a feeling, because I've seen this YouTube clip, and you never see what comes before it.
But even when he says, you know, you could interpret the, I get the joke in a couple of different ways.
And what, you know, those words preceding what he says...
About the free market, you could actually say, you know, it could be a totally cynical thing he's saying.
It's a little too out of context for me to actually be able to deconstruct.
Yeah, I feel the same way.
It was a little difficult.
And people out there should feel the same way, too, by getting a hold of us at noagendashow.com and devorek.org slash NA, just to remind you for donations.
We did come up with a little short number of donations this last iteration.
I would like...
We have enough listeners to actually be able to make this really, really work.
If all of our listeners gave us $5 a year, we'd be set.
I could quit the day job.
You could actually eat pulled pork twice a week, and we'd be good to go.
So you and I, John, have really got to come up with some better...
Vision of how we move this show forward, because I'd really like to make some big changes in 2010.
The new year, I'd really like to have the stream up and running, have multiple shows.
I'd like to expand.
You're already doing a cool show with Andrew Horowitz, which really focuses on the markets.
I think we could build out a little mini-industry that we could at least do it full-time.
And I'd really like to work on that.
I just don't understand...
How we can motivate our growing audience to really everyone just contribute.
People say, I don't have a job.
I don't care.
Send me five bucks.
You got five bucks.
Yeah, which is basically a parking fee in San Francisco for like 20 minutes.
I mean, seriously, take a look at what you're spending this week.
Just, you know, look at anything.
You know, it's one trip to Starbucks.
One trip to Starbucks.
And we're not trying to get rich here.
And we're not rich.
In fact, if anything, we're middle class, upper middle class, and we're being targeted just like everybody else.
Yeah, for bogus taxes.
Taxes, yeah.
Taxes on everything.
Probably have a...
eventually try to put a streaming tax.
Oh, well, you know, and by the way, we kind of got to hurry up doing this because if you've been following the FCC and their net neutrality sham that they're pulling off...
Oh, brother.
Have you been following that?
This guy...
Who is this?
It's like Harry Potter is running the FCC. This little jabroni.
And he's like...
And he's just like laughing and...
And by the way, I don't think Google is our friend in this.
I'm not so sure that they're the good guys in all of this.
But whenever I hear that the few big ISPs that are around, that they will be able to manage their network traffic It's like, okay, so net neutrality, yeah, it's for real.
And by the way, where is the whole debate on net neutrality?
The minute people online can't change their icon to a different color to support net neutrality, then no one participates.
You're all too busy frickin' twittering about Balloon Boy, you bozos.
And now it's really taking place right in front of your eyes.
And there's this really nefarious, vague language...
You know, my website, DvorakUncensored at dvorak.org.
You're blocked by all kinds of ISPs.
I'm blocked in parts of Russia.
I'm blocked by most corporations in this country.
I've been unblocked because every once in a while someone says, well, yeah, you're blocked in my company.
I say, who's doing it?
And it's always some little middleman that they've hired and they just block stuff for no apparent reason.
Yeah.
Yeah, Vodafone does this in the UK. They block all kinds of stuff, and the only way you can get it unblocked is by registering.
Curry.com is blocked everywhere.
I went from a Google rank page 6 to a 4, thanks to all the blockages.
And that's not net neutrality.
And that's not being addressed or discussed anywhere.
No, that's not just, I bring it up and it goes, yeah, and then somebody explains, well, it's because of the such and such.
Then they stop talking about it.
I mean, the only guy who ever brings it up is Leo, and he only talks about it just to give me the needle.
Yeah.
And then the one other thing I want to just mention is Hulu has now announced that they're going to charge fees.
Of course, Murdoch has been the big man on campus talking about closing down the news sites.
We're not giving it away anymore.
And what I find interesting is many people are saying, oh, this is the end of...
You know, democracy, this is the end of free news, everything will be controlled.
I'm like, this is great!
The less stupid balloon boy shit people will be copying and pasting, the better.
So maybe the signal-to-noise ratio will finally straighten out a little bit.
I'm really happy.
Please, every publication, and I'm looking at you, Wall Street Journal, please, everyone, close your doors, make it for pay service, and go away!
Give us more room, give us more bandwidth slash attention value to actually bring some interesting information.
I don't need to access the Daily Post.
Balloon Boy.
Balloon Boy.
So, on Thursday we'll find out what they've made up this week to distract us from the real news once again.
And the countdown to the meeting of the extraterrestrials is on.
Our president soon to announce.
Maybe that's what District 9 is all about.
Maybe it's prawns.
Prawns?
Go for some prawns.
I'd like to eat the head off a prawn.
All right.
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And you can also do that at Dvorak.org slash NA. And coming to you from the Minimum Security Containment Cell, housing the Crackpot Command Center on Gitmo Nation West, I'm Adam Curry.
And from what looks like a sunny day in northern Silicon Valley, I'm John C. Dvorak.