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126: Sell Your Kidney!

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	Hey, Ricky Ricardo, you ready for me?
	Hit it.
	Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak.
	It's August 30th, 2009.
	Time for your Gitmo Nation Audio Publication, episode number 126.
	This is no agenda.
	Coming to you from the 17th Century Canal House, Crackpot Command Center in Amsterdam, Gitmo Nation East, straight from the catwalk to your iPod, I'm Adam Curry.
	And from fogged in Silicon Valley North, I'm John C. Dvorak.
	It's Craig Vaughn and Buzzkill.
	In the morning.
	Almost not in the morning anymore.
	It's almost in the afternoon.
	No, we've got plenty of time.
	It's only 10.30.
	Yeah, sorry about that.
	I had a little bit of family biz to take care of.
	That's fine.
	People don't care.
	Most people probably aren't even up by 9 or 8.
	Well, they are on the East Coast.
	I like 8 o'clock.
	The East Coast would be 11, so they'd be watching football.
	Oh, please.
	And on Thursday, I'd like to see if we can do 8 o'clock.
	8 o'clock?
	Yeah, on Thursday.
	Yeah, Gitmo Nation West time.
	Where are you going to be?
	I will be flying...
	Well, I fly back from Chicago back to Amsterdam on Thursday morning.
	And so I got some stuff to do.
	You know, stuff.
	Okay.
	Yeah, I can do 8, probably 8.15.
	Cool.
	So anyway, I just got back from the Haute Couture fashion show where my lovely daughter, my now 19-year-old daughter, was on the catwalk.
	She didn't fall?
	She almost did slip out of the shoes.
	It's funny, when you go backstage at one of these fashion shows, these clothes are not really made for these girls.
	That's why they're all kind of like one size.
	So there's like gaffer tape and clothes pins and all kinds of stuff.
	And shoes, here's some shoes.
	What?
	They're too big?
	Stick some tissue paper in them.
	You know, so here's my 19-year-old kid, and she's on this big-ass catwalk, and all of the nation's press is watching her, and the shoe was almost like flying off her foot.
	Yeah, I mean, I saw it.
	No one else saw it.
	Then, you know, it was cool.
	Well, you know, every year, two or three models take a tumble.
	It's always...
	Oh, yeah.
	Oh, yeah.
	The best ones, even.
	Most of it's on YouTube.
	Yeah.
	And Christine and I discussed this.
	Please, don't become a YouTube clip.
	Yeah.
	No, no, I'm not going to.
	She did a great job.
	I was a very, very, very proud papa.
	So, yeah, that was great.
	So, how tall is she?
	What does she weigh?
	None of your business, you dirty old man.
	She has to be at least 5'8".
	I just want to know if she's one of the tall, tall types or the shorter, skinnier ones.
	Well, I'm not quite sure what she weighs.
	She's skinny, but not crazy skinny.
	She's got beautiful, curvaceous, feminine hips.
	Yeah, but she's 5'7", so technically she's a little too short.
	Oh, she's short.
	Yeah, but she's a celebrity model, dude.
	So she's allowed to get away with it.
	And, you know, at the end where the designer comes out and then he always takes one of the models and takes her up front in front of all the press.
	So, of course, he took my daughter all the way up front.
	It was cool.
	It was fun.
	And it was a harrowing moment for me.
	Did you wave and yell, hi, Daddy?
	Hi, Daddy!
	No, but I was there going like...
	Looking at me like, shut the fuck up, dude.
	What are you doing?
	So, anyway, so that coincided exactly with our normal kickoff time for the show.
	So, what's going on over there in Europe?
	I saw that they now have, you know, coincidentally leaked the memos that show that the Iraqi, or the, I'm sorry, the Libyan...
	Oh, in the UK, yeah, that it's all about oil.
	Yeah, and they mysteriously leaked these documents, of course, which is based on our theory.
	It's just a cover-up for the real reason they released the guy.
	And they just basically throw Gordon Brown under the bus, say, oh, it was for oil.
	We screwed up.
	And then let's forget the fact that maybe they have the real evidence that the whole scheme was something else.
	Yeah, I'm telling you.
	It's pretty blatant, almost.
	I mean, we predicted it.
	I think, actually, you predicted it.
	And it's exactly what happens.
	Oh, well, we found some memos from two years ago, and that, of course, is exactly why this was a whole oil swap.
	And now, you know, Gaddafi's son is, you know, now he's being pushed to the forefront.
	Of course, he's going to take over eventually, you know, the typical way it works in world stage politics.
	So, yeah.
	And talking about that kind of thing, I think it's going to be an interesting situation happening in Massachusetts.
	By the way, all this morning is all it was for another day.
	Another Ted Kennedy?
	Ted Kennedy and Ted Kennedy.
	I mean, it's like this guy...
	Can I just...
	Before you go on your rant...
	When Reagan died, they didn't give him this much ink.
	What?
	You're going to go on a rant, but I'd like to say something before you go on the rant.
	I'm not going to go on a rant.
	Well, I hope you are, because I've got a jingle for your rants.
	It really upsets me.
	No, nay pisses me off.
	Nay?
	Yeah, that's old English.
	N-A-H. N-A-Y. Nay.
	Yeah, N-A-Y. The I's and the nays.
	So I say a nay.
	It pisses me off that here we have to have the whole coffin with the flag draped over it, yet the American media has expressly been forbidding from showing any young servicemen or women who were killed in the line of duty in Iraq and Afghanistan.
	You're not allowed to show their coffins, but let's show the drunk.
	Let's show his coffin.
	Oh, and by the way, let's put him in Arlington Cemetery.
	I guess the barrier to entry is pretty low.
	John, we should reserve our plot there.
	We could be there now.
	So here's the deal with the American media.
	Here's what I'm seeing coming down the road.
	They've already talked about who's going to replace him, and they're trying to push Dukakis.
	Are you kidding me?
	No.
	Dukakis is like at the top of the list, but you know who they're going to...
	I think before all is said and done, they're going to try to push another Canadian, and I'm thinking that Dingbat Carroll.
	Well, didn't they try that?
	Didn't they try that in New York?
	Well, they...
	They tried to put her into Hillary's spot and then Carolyn got threatened or something, right?
	She backed out.
	She backed out of the deal.
	And I think, to be honest about it, I think that somebody came up to her and said, look, it's going to be a tough go anyway.
	You get a lot of flack.
	Let them beat the crap out of you.
	Then there'll be some sympathy because Teddy's not long for this world.
	Why don't you do it in Massachusetts?
	You can be closer to home.
	And you know they talk that way.
	And the old geezer's going to croak, man.
	Don't worry about it.
	You'll get your spot, babes.
	We talk that way.
	That's how people talk.
	I met her.
	I was introduced to her through, of all people, Tom Brokaw.
	And she's very nice.
	Oh, she seems like a very pleasant person.
	I actually wouldn't really object to this, but I don't think she's the brightest bulb in the pack.
	I also met...
	Now, who's kind of like the loser of the family?
	There's a bunch of them.
	So it's not her cousin.
	It's the guy who was actually running the Special Olympics who was doing that with Eunice.
	And of course now he's taking it over.
	Robert Kennedy Jr.
	maybe?
	No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
	God, I had dinner with him once.
	There's still a million.
	Yeah, there's a whole bunch of them running around.
	But Carolyn Kennedy, this was when she was doing the library and she was interested.
	This is in the late 90s.
	She was interested in putting the JFK library on the internets.
	And she had asked Tom Brookshaw who could help her with that.
	And I thought I was tickled pink that Tom Brookshaw said, yeah, that Adam Curry.
	You should talk to him.
	I'm like, yeah, cool.
	No business.
	No business whatsoever.
	I showed her the, you know, here's what we'll charge you.
	What, you won't do it for free for Camelot?
	I'm sure that's what they're looking for.
	Yeah, well, you know what I said there.
	No service for you!
	She was totally looking for a freebie.
	Well, anyway, I think this hasn't cropped up yet.
	I'm just kind of predicting it's a possibility.
	It's totally possible.
	But Dukakis is on the other side of that equation, and he's going to be trying to get in there.
	Dukakis, of course, has a bad rap.
	I really wasn't following politics that much at the time.
	In fact, I was pretty much enslaved to the Gitmo Nation system and bought it all with the rest of them.
	Of course, what killed his presidential run, his career, is the goofy-ass picture of him in the tank with the stupid helmet on, and no one could take the guy seriously anymore.
	A classic.
	It was.
	That was the Howard Dean scream and you had the Dukakis helmet gaffe sticking out of the tank looking like, you look goofy, man.
	You just look like a douche.
	It was hilarious.
	It really was.
	And they ran that over and over and over again.
	And that's how you don't become president in the United States.
	It doesn't matter.
	You know, if you're in Italy, you can be screwing models, you can have naked people hanging out at the pool, you can have questionable romances with 18-year-olds, divorce your wife, sue the newspapers, and you're cool, man.
	You're hanging.
	No problem.
	Yeah, well, that's Italy.
	So...
	Anyway, the other thing that's going on, there's a couple of interesting things happening over here.
	I'll mention one.
	The U.S. Chamber of Commerce is going to...
	Yeah, a trial on global warming?
	Yeah, they want a trial on global warming because they just...
	But I was reading through some of these reports, especially the ones in the New York Times that are kind of...
	They have kind of a twisted...
	I got the LA Times version of the story.
	The New York Times version, and I'm sure the LA Times, they've twisted the thing just subtly so people maybe don't notice.
	Instead of discussing whether, I mean, the real issue is there's such a thing as man-made global warming.
	It's not whether there's global warming or not, but whether it's man-made.
	Right.
	Now, they're twisting this to say that this is weird.
	You have to really read between the lines to kind of pick this up.
	But what they're really trying to do is have a trial on not whether it's man-made, whether it's global warming, but whether global warming is bad.
	Yeah, right.
	I like that one, though.
	That makes sense.
	Yeah, but it's totally beside the point and twisted.
	You know, is it bad?
	I mean, they can't prove it one way or the other because obviously it's not provable.
	You know, it's like, you know, it's going to kill you in 2.6 years.
	Here's a great quote.
	You won't know until 2.6 years.
	Great quote from the LA Times.
	The Chamber of Commerce proposal, quote, brings to mind for me the Salem Witch Trials based on myth, said Brenda Eckwurzel, which sounds like a witch name, by the way, who was a climate scientist for the environmental group Union of Concerned Scientists.
	That's kind of crazy, though, when your name is Brenda Eckwurzel and you're talking about the Salem Witch Trials.
	Well, Brenda, you might want to change your name, okay?
	Because you sound like Eucalyptus!
	Yeah.
	They want the EPA to jump in on this, right?
	Yeah, the EPA, but that arrogant woman that runs it, she'll just tell them to stuff it.
	What's her name?
	I can't remember.
	I mean, I just remembered.
	I can still see her, though.
	Well, that is interesting.
	And, of course, the reason why the Chamber of Commerce is doing this is because they represent medium and small businesses.
	And those are the businesses that will get hit the hardest, of course.
	Yeah, because of all the...
	In fact, I was reading that the Netherlands, speaking of Gitmo Nation East, they...
	Let me see if I have the story here.
	They have just put out a tender for their carbon trading system since they plan to actively trade here.
	Of course, we have Euronext, the option exchange in Amsterdam.
	So I guess they're on board with the program.
	This cap and trade thing is ridiculous.
	I wanted to mention, speaking of the Netherlands, that you remember the court case we talked about, about the Dutch Royals who sued Associated Press over their photos?
	Well, the headlines read, Dutch Royals win privacy case!
	And I found that highly interesting because, first of all, I looked into the court documents and they sued the Associated Press.
	It's about four pictures.
	And these four pictures were of them while they were on vacation in Argentina.
	And they feel that they sued the AP under the European Human Rights Legislation.
	Wherein it's stated every human being has the right to privacy.
	And so the judge said, well, you know what?
	Yes, everyone has the right to privacy.
	So those four pictures had no newsworthiness.
	And they also do not contribute to the broader social discussion.
	Ergo, they are deemed private.
	And may no longer be published.
	But of course, the judge didn't say you can't take pictures of the royal family, it's just it has to be newsworthy.
	So it's not really a win.
	They got no money because they were suing for $25 million or whatever in total.
	They were?
	They were suing for $25 million?
	Yeah, like $25,000 a day that they kept each of the pictures up, and then they wanted to do it retroactively, and so that came up to some huge, huge number.
	So they got zero...
	Zero money.
	And they really didn't get a win.
	I guess it's kind of interesting because now any celebrity could essentially say, hey, this is private.
	I'm on vacation.
	Screw you.
	F off.
	Unless, of course, it's newsworthy.
	And that is the big question.
	When is it newsworthy?
	Well, according to the tabloids, anything a celebrity does is newsworthy.
	Right.
	And, of course, what was funny is everyone's showing the pictures because, of course, the whole conversation isn't newsworthy conversation, ergo, you can show the pictures.
	I mean, it's the stupidest thing in the world.
	It's like, okay.
	But I do like the headlines.
	Everyone's like, oh, Dutch Royals win!
	It's horrible for freedom of the prize!
	Screw you, they didn't win anything.
	So, here's an interesting one that's floating around.
	You've read this, I'm sure.
	You know, the WHO, which...
	This weird operation, to say the least.
	The World Health Organization.
	This is the severe warning they put out?
	Yeah.
	Now, wait, let me get this straight.
	Now, my understanding is when you categorize these various viruses, if you have an H1N1 type XYZ, let's say, and you have another H1N1 type XYZ, it's the same virus.
	Yeah.
	So how do you have a severe version of it?
	Well, let me just say exactly what they reported.
	According to Reuters, doctors are reporting a severe form of the swine flu that goes straight to the lungs, John.
	Straight to the lungs.
	Causing severe illness in otherwise healthy young people and requiring expensive, I love this, expensive hospital treatment.
	You know, it really clicked for me when I read this.
	I'm like, of course, it makes so much sense.
	No one wants to be caught with their pants down with a very expensive treatment from the straight-to-the-lungs version of the flu, so we better ram some healthcare reform through there.
	I think it kind of fits.
	If there was a global strategy, well done.
	A little bit late, but well done.
	Well, this is assuming that they haven't tweaked the virus, just to make it a little more powerful.
	They spoke about earlier.
	Do you remember that, right?
	Well, yeah, of course.
	They're even saying...
	Let's make it so it kills everybody.
	What they're doing is they're now saying, hey, this is exactly what happened with the 1918 flu pandemic, known as the Spanish flu, which, of course, is horseshit, because that was completely different.
	That happened in soldiers who were sent over in ships who had been, oh, wait a minute, vaccinated.
	And because of the vaccination, and any vaccine, particularly with an adjuvant, and, you know, hey, this week in virality, whatever the heck the name of your show is, I may be kind of paraphrasing, but from what I understand is if you have severe stress levels, it can actually activate a lot of shit, and it can make it worse, and it can wind up killing you.
	But it's not the same thing as the 1918 flu, but they're now comparing it to the 1918.
	Remember they dug that corpse up and got some DNA?
	It makes so much sense, John.
	They dug up that dead dude.
	They got some of the 1918 flu, mixed it up, tweaked it a little bit, then we're off to the races.
	So I'm looking at this document saying the Spanish influenza epidemic of 1918 was caused by vaccinations.
	I didn't know they were giving vaccinations back then for the flu.
	Yeah, but I don't think it was for the flu.
	I think it was for something else, but they vaccinated all of these soldiers.
	Oh, because they had some other stuff in there, yeah.
	Yeah, they vaccinated these soldiers that were shipped over to Spain, which is why it's called the Spanish flu.
	And because of the stress of being packed into ships, it was 1918.
	It wasn't exactly the Boeing luxury liner.
	Doctors, of course, are questioning this.
	Even ABC News has a report on that.
	All this stuff is in the show notes at noagendashow.com, by the way.
	Alright, well on the topic, I found something interesting because I was looking into this story and I ran into an old posting from Kelly Pundit back in April of 2005 discussing who the WHO's incompetence and mainly about the fact that they're trying to get baby formula out of Africa and they claim that they need it because there's not enough Breasts, I guess.
	But they ran into this...
	What?
	What?
	Say what?
	Breasts?
	There needs to be more breasts.
	You have my attention.
	So, anyways, it's just a very interesting article.
	The link, I'll send you...
	Well, it's under kellypundit.blogspot.com and it's from April 6, 2005.
	Someone's going to have to look it up.
	Anyway, but he or she...
	I guess it must be a she.
	This has got an I. Um...
	Found this interesting quote from a 1992 book called Malaria Capers, printed by Norton and Company, not a slouch.
	She says, Read here to find out how radical activists have kept the safe life-saving insecticide DDT out of use.
	That is paramount to mass murder.
	Oh, I'm sorry.
	That's population control.
	Go read it yourself.
	I'm not kidding.
	And then here's the quote.
	From the book.
	Population control advocates blame DDT for increasing third world population.
	In the 1960s, the World Health Organization authorities believed there was no alternative to the overpopulation problem but to assure...
	To assure then, up to 40% of the children in poor nations would die of malaria.
	As the official Agency for International Development stated, quote, rather dead than alive and notoriously reproducing.
	But John, are you now coming over to the dark side or you finally believe me that there's actually a group of people who do believe in population control who are trying to kill us?
	And I would look at the Bilderberg group.
	That's kind of the guys that I'm thinking of.
	Yeah, that's what you do.
	So people should go to the Wikipedia and look up Margaret Chan.
	This is that Ms.
	Swan type person who's running the WHO. Oh, Chan, yeah.
	Oh, yeah, she's freaky.
	She is freaky.
	She was initially trained as a home economist teacher in the North Coat College of Education in Hong Kong.
	Then she earned her bachelor's degree in home economics and finally got an M.D. in the University of Western Ontario in 73 and 77, respectively.
	Oh, actually, she got her home economics degree in 73 and then got an M.D., And blah, blah, blah.
	So there's two docs I wanted to bring up.
	She's another lightweight that somehow got bumped into this position.
	She's a mind control freak.
	She does whatever.
	She could be Kim Jong-il's illegitimate sister.
	Look at her.
	A white paper published by our favorites, the RAND Corporation, in March of this year, sponsored by Sanofi Pasteur, of course, one of the makers of the H1N1 vaccine, identifies parental consent laws, medical homes, and lack of access to medical records as main barriers for immunizing low-income adolescents.
	But they have a solution.
	Listen to this from the white paper.
	It would appear at first blush that vaccinating teens in a school setting would be a practical way to address the barriers posed by the lack of a medical home.
	Schools are the only place where the vast majority of adolescents are found consistently and predictably.
	Many of the barriers we identified, while seemingly distinct, were tied to current consent laws.
	We found that the requirement that parental consent for vaccination be provided in real time clearly limits the vaccination of adolescents in such venues as schools, where parents and adolescents are not likely to be together.
	So separate them, get the kids in schools, and two to the arm.
	That's nice.
	That's a really nice Rand Corporation.
	Meanwhile, in Gitmo Nation East, in the United Kingdom, remember those swine flu call centers they set up?
	Where you could call in if you had symptoms, so they could take you through the SkipLogic, as our friend Vivek would call it.
	SkipLogic.
	You did two to the arm.
	SkipLogic, and then you could get a swine flu buddy to go get some Tamiflu for you.
	Well...
	But there's nothing going on.
	There's no calls coming in.
	In fact, the managers of these call centers are allowing the people manning the phones to play Trivial Pursuit and Monopoly while on the job.
	Well, at least you're doing something valuable with your time.
	So the ministers are the health secretary, Andy Burnham of the UK, who, of course, they put 100,000 people on the phones.
	It's a 40 million pound operation.
	And these folks are basically being paid to play Monopoly and probably Solitaire on their PCs.
	Way to go, dudes.
	Way to go.
	Hey, by the way, if you people out there are going to play Solitaire on the PC, play Spider.
	With a full deck.
	With all the suits.
	That'll keep you busy.
	Once you learn how to play the game right, you win about 3% of the time.
	About 3 games out of 100.
	That's a very good time-consuming game.
	Another John C. Dvorak.
	No job having tip.
	Yes.
	So, you know, for those of you listening to us or maybe you're new to the show and you're thinking, what are these two jabronis talking about?
	You know, vaccination is, you know, I just want to say on this very program about a year ago, I certainly was telling you, anyone who had daughters, please do not let them get vaccinated with this Gardasil crap.
	This is the HPV vaccine.
	Anticervical cancer drug, which was poorly tested, was known to only maybe protect a child against, or a female, against seven of the twelve possible types of cervical cancer.
	And by the way, you have to have sex to actually be infected with cervical, in this case, with this type of cervical cancer.
	There are so many stories coming out, and this is one from examiner.com, which will be in the show notes.
	Just to show you that we are not entirely nuts, There are stories here on this one page that are just gut-wrenching when you read about girls that died, that became paralyzed, and were healthy, 16, 17, 18-year-old girls, and they took the first shot, they had to come back for the second shot.
	By the way, these shots were like $300 a pop.
	Third shot, boom, they died.
	And it's just tons and tons of stories from all over the world, all related to this horrible so-called vaccine, which of course was, as far as I can tell, probably not a part of the out-to-kill-us scheme, but more like a way to make up for the Vioxx that of course was taken off the market.
	They had to come up with another money-making scheme.
	It's all about the money.
	And to kill us.
	So do we have some clips there from me?
	I got some clips from you and I got some clips from me.
	You want to play one of my clips?
	Yeah, sure.
	So we're talking about the medical system.
	I got a kick out of this one.
	This woman, this is kind of a long clip because she's too chatty and I couldn't really cut it down that much, but you can interrupt it as you normally do.
	As I'm known to do.
	This woman, Sally Sattel, and she just finished a book.
	She was on C-SPAN. She just finished a book and book talk.
	She just finished a book called When Altruism Isn't Enough.
	And it discusses essentially the idea...
	Explain the word altruism, John.
	I don't think everyone knows.
	It's like doing something for nothing.
	In fact, what she's talking about specifically is people who give away a kidney to save somebody else's life.
	Which would be an altruistic thing to do.
	And she points out that everybody in the process, from the kidney bank to the doctors to the nurses to everybody and their sister in the hospitals, they're all making money on this transaction, except the person who actually gave their kidney.
	There's big money in them as spare parts.
	And so she makes the argument that there should be a market for certain things.
	In other words, if you feel like selling your kidney for $50,000 because you could use the money and you're healthy, why not?
	You should be able to do that, yeah.
	Well, this is what these guys in New Jersey were doing, right?
	The rabbis, they were all involved with organ trade.
	I mean, it's a billion dollar business.
	But the idea is it should be legalized, she thinks, and, you know, even though I know what the counter-argument is.
	Well, if that's true, then everybody in China will be giving up their kidneys because, you know, it's going to be a human, you know, disastrous human, this and that, and the other thing.
	So she goes on and on.
	She discusses part of this.
	And then at the very end, that's why you have to listen to the whole thing.
	You all of a sudden realize, oh wait a minute, there is a vested interest in here, in this whole scheme of things, to actually keep kidneys off the market.
	I wonder what group could that be?
	Sensible, saves money, and saves lives.
	Thank you for bringing up the public.
	In the book, in fact, one of the appendices is...
	Well, that's funny.
	I love how she slips in, appendices.
	No pun intended, by the way.
	...covers the literature on polling data, and there have been surveys and polls done.
	The great preponderance of these surveys have found that the majority of people are very receptive to this concept.
	And surprisingly so, even because they've often been, in these questionnaires, have often set up a market system.
	You know, these are your choices.
	We pay, or we do this, or we do that.
	But cash is one of the...
	And still people will say, this is something we should think about.
	So that's...
	I think you're right.
	I'm liking this.
	I'm thinking we need to set up a trading system, John.
	This could be a complete computerized market.
	Huh, like cap and trade.
	Or, you know, like pork bellies.
	In the case, I think, the public is way out ahead of the experts.
	As I alluded to before, you asked about where the resistance is coming from.
	One major obstacle is the National Kidney Foundation.
	They're cheapening the gift, that logic that I find kind of inscrutable.
	What's especially surprising about the National Kidney Foundation is that they were once very much in favor of doing pilot studies on incentives.
	Up until the early 90s, late, wait a minute, through the 90s, excuse me, they kind of changed their tune in 2000.
	I have theories, although frankly I'm not exactly sure why.
	I think it had to do with a change in membership of their board.
	There's someone on it who is a very outspoken opponent.
	So the National Kidney Foundation is not much of a help to us here.
	And unfortunately, they are considered a grassroots organization.
	They're not a grassroots organization.
	They're an organization of professionals.
	They have close ties with the dialysis industry, which is fine.
	You want the dialysis industry to have the best...
	I'd love for them to be out of business, but not because they're a bad industry.
	I just wish people didn't need dialysis.
	Yeah, there you go.
	Expensive dialysis.
	Dialysis, of course.
	That makes so much sense.
	I have to say, of course, I think the strongest argument against free trade in organs is that the worry would then be that people with no money wouldn't be able to afford the spare parts.
	But are you allowed to donate your own kidney to your own child or parent or friend or anybody you want to?
	You're allowed to do that, right?
	Yeah.
	In fact, there was a hilarious 30 Raka episode this last season where this guy finally finds his dad and then the first thing that dad wants is his kidney because he's got a bad kidney.
	Anyway.
	But of course, that was the expensive dialysis business.
	Yeah, of course.
	That's why we keep it illegal.
	It is illegal, I presume, right?
	Oh, yes.
	Yeah.
	You can't go around selling your kidney to the highest bidder.
	But you can give it away if you want.
	Yeah, that's okay.
	And that's what she mentioned, this cheapens the gift quote, which is apparently one of the arguments that the Kidney Foundation uses.
	No, no, you can't sell it because then it cheapens the gift.
	You don't want a cheap gift.
	I mean, you know, selling it is just cheapening the gift, the gift, the gift.
	I'm looking because I saw a story about the...
	Let me see if I can find this.
	Actually, I skipped the story, but now you brought this up.
	It kind of fits right in.
	I maybe won't be able to find it, but it was exactly about this, and it is a billion-dollar industry, the illegal trade of organs.
	It's huge.
	And honestly, here it is.
	42.9 euros per arm.
	Let me see.
	Per arm?
	Yeah.
	Let me see.
	How come this thing is...
	You can see the problem here, but at the same time, it's regulated.
	That, by the way, is...
	I can cut off my arm.
	That's a current market price.
	German company...
	Is it okay if I go one-armed?
	Listen to this.
	I haven't read this.
	The German company Tutogen's business in body parts is as secretive as it is lucrative.
	It extracts bones from corpses in the Ukraine to manufacture medical products as part of a global market worth billions that is centered in the United States.
	Huh.
	Go figure.
	You can read through that.
	I'll put that in the show notes for sure.
	Yeah, but that's...
	Hmm.
	Well...
	I'll tell you though, if a loved one of mine needed an organ and we were on a waiting list, you can better believe I'd be scouring Craigslist.
	I'd be looking for some organs.
	I don't think you can stop that.
	Craigslist.
	Isn't that where they usually show up on Craigslist?
	Yeah, right.
	This is with the hookers.
	Yeah.
	So I've noticed, by the way, talking about hookers...
	Yes, I have a Timothy Geithner clip ready.
	Or are we talking about something else?
	Play the Geithner clip.
	Geithner was interviewed on something by the Fine Murdoch publication known as the Wall Street Journal.
	And I didn't know this existed.
	It's actually very cool.
	It's the dig dialogue with Double G. So there's like dig questions and then the questions that get the most digs are then asked.
	And this is...
	Dude, Alan, whatever his name is, he actually starts off, well, you know, I'm just kind of the facilitator here, so in other words, all these questions that are really creepy that you're about to get, you know, they're not really my questions, but they're questions from real people.
	And of course, these stories, and they're good questions, only have like 500 digs, so there's not a lot of people that actually care.
	Yeah, we actually posted this video on the blog at devorek.org slash blog for anyone interested.
	Yeah, so a couple of clips from that.
	And, of course, the questions we really want to know are, you know, hey, you've got all these, like, Goldman dudes running around.
	You know, is that okay?
	And so I have a part of the question and then Geithner's answer, which is just exceptional.
	That's a serious question that lies behind this.
	There's another question here.
	It's the fifth question from KeyTHB with 579 days.
	579 digs.
	It's like no one gives a shit.
	Exactly.
	No one cares.
	By the way, Britney Spears, no underwear stepping out of a car?
	10,000 digs.
	I feel about the revolving door between high job positions in the Treasury Department and Goldman Sachs.
	You worked for Bob Rubin, who ran Goldman Sachs before he was Treasury Secretary.
	I worked for him as a civil servant.
	I love how he's saying, I'm not a part of Goldman Sachs.
	I'm not part of those guys.
	I have nothing to do with them.
	I just worked for them as a civil servant.
	...at the Treasury...
	But while he was Treasury Secretary.
	And while he was Treasury Secretary, not at Goldman Sachs.
	He wasn't at Goldman.
	That had nothing to do with Goldman.
	Nothing at all.
	Not at Goldman Sachs, right?
	Not at Goldman Sachs.
	You, Hank Paulson.
	Timmy Geithner.
	Timmy Geithner.
	Do you think that kid was, like, pestered at school with that big head of his?
	Like...
	Timmy is a dork, and he can't get laid.
	...was your predecessor as Secretary of the Treasury.
	He ran Goldman Sachs.
	Steve Friedman, who was co-head of Goldman Sachs, was the chairman of your board.
	At my request.
	At your request?
	At my request, but it had nothing to do with Goldman Sachs.
	It was my request.
	At my request.
	Duh.
	Yeah.
	...the New York Federal Reserve Board.
	I think you have some Goldman Sachs.
	Your chief of staff was a lobbyist for Goldman Sachs.
	Oh, I thought we wouldn't have any lobbyists.
	No, that can't be true.
	Am I mistaken?
	That cannot be happening.
	There's no lobbyists here.
	I think what you really meant to say was you're going to have only lobbyists.
	Oh, okay.
	I misunderstood.
	Clearly, this makes some people nervous.
	Let me just say, these are deeply honorable men.
	Okay, that's where I lost it.
	These are deeply honorable men.
	Oh, yes.
	These are men who are deeply honorable.
	Great public statesmen.
	They're deeply honorable.
	You've got to keep that clip.
	Great public statesmen, okay?
	Willing to come serve their country.
	Dude, if you ask me to be in the Treasury, I'd show up.
	I'd be there in a heartbeat.
	No problemo, buddy.
	I'd be deeply, deeply dedicated and exceptional.
	In very challenging times.
	Give them a medal, Timmy.
	They did exceptionally good things for the country.
	It's very important to recognize that.
	I wish he could tell us which exceptionally good things they did for the country, but he kind of skips over there.
	Well, we have to recognize it besides the point.
	Yeah, recognize it no matter.
	We have to recognize it.
	You shall recognize.
	Recognize exactly what they did, you fools.
	don't you understand?
	You will obey Spain.
	A position where this government was forced to do exceptional things to save the economy from the brink of catastrophe.
	Which, of course, hasn't worked, because we're still on the brink...
	What would we be saying?
	You said save us from the brink?
	Shouldn't we be saving us from the catastrophe?
	No, just the brink.
	The brink's no big deal.
	No, just the brink.
	Just the brink.
	And the people of this country need to make sure we have people in these jobs here with experience and markets.
	So that as we negotiate with these...
	Experience in manipulating markets.
	Firms.
	To protect the taxpayer, make sure we're getting our money back, that we have people that understand these markets, can actually understand them.
	So we will always be, as the Treasury has always done, we will always be looking to people with experience in the financial community, in business community, come in these jobs because that is important for the American people.
	So there was no one else.
	Of all the financial wizards in the world, they all had to come from Goldman Sachs because they're exceptional men who are dedicated to their country.
	It's impossible to find them anywhere else.
	Goldman is the Valhalla of finance.
	Wouldn't you agree, John?
	Must be.
	Just one important fact.
	We're making some progress in...
	Bankrupting the country.
	...ready in walking back some of the broad investment.
	Walking back some of the broad...
	I love not seeing the video.
	I love just listening to it because the words have so much more importance when he says, we're having some success walking back some of the...
	What does that mean, walking it back?
	I don't know.
	Is it like you put it in a little sexual?
	This is the guy's worse than Vivek Kundra.
	Is it like a fanny pack full of money or something, walking back?
	Oh, hey, Timmy, here's your money.
	...the government had to make in the industry, and we're doing a relatively good job at earning a good return for the taxpayer.
	Just to give you one example, the average return we've had on the $80 billion of capital of investments the government made that we've now had repaid, the average return for us is roughly 16% annual rate.
	16% annual rate.
	So that doesn't mean they actually...
	Pay the money back that's just they're paying 16% interest?
	I don't know.
	It's vague to me.
	It's very vague.
	A bunch of it was paid back by Goldman.
	No, no, no.
	Listen to what he says.
	It's the Goldman deal, I think, or the Goldman thing, he calls it.
	Can you talk about the Goldman Sachs investment?
	Higher than that.
	I think the Goldman thing is in the mid-20s.
	The Goldman thing.
	Okay, it's a thing, alright?
	At Goldman we have things.
	But the important thing is that you need to have people in these jobs.
	These are complicated, difficult in any times.
	They're exceptionally difficult, complicated in a crisis like this.
	And the American people need to have people here who understand and can negotiate effectively, can be on the other side of things to make sure we're protecting the financial interests of the American people.
	And I totally agree.
	It's just, it's amazing that they're only to be found at Goldman Sachs.
	Now, I have another clip, which is about all of the phone calls that went back and forth between Paulson and the CEO of Goldman Sachs.
	Of course, this is what Paulson was being interrogated about.
	Yeah, this is what Paulson didn't do email.
	I hope this is more interesting than the last clip.
	You didn't like that clip?
	No, it was kind of boring.
	Well, I think you'll find this one rather interesting because now he actually explains what all these exceptional men did.
	See, you've got to listen to these things in sequence.
	Key period last September, September 15th, Lehman Brothers is allowed to fail.
	Lehman, a major competitor of Goldman Sachs.
	Next day, AIG is bailed out.
	And of course, $8 billion of that bailout went straight to Goldman Sachs.
	By the government.
	AIG was on the other side of numerous credit default swaps that Goldman Sachs was involved in.
	During that week, we now know that Lloyd Blankfein, the head of Goldman Sachs, was on the phone a couple dozen times with Secretary Paulson.
	He says he was on the phone some with you that same week.
	Are you surprised that that gives people a sense of inappropriate contact between these institutions?
	Now, listen closely to what he says about these exceptional men, all these great guys at Goldman Sachs, all these statesmen, all these patriots, what they did.
	Alan, like the things we've been through as a country, we still face, have made the American people just deeply angry and frustrated and skeptical about the quality of justice made by this government.
	It's a completely understandable thing.
	And we have been forced to do just extraordinary things and frankly, offensive things.
	Thank you.
	Offensive things.
	So what is it?
	Extraordinary?
	Offensive?
	To help save the economy from the risk of even more catastrophic damage.
	And that requires, and required us, in part because we have so poor tools coming into this, doing things that are going to be deeply unpopular.
	But we do them not for the benefit of any institution.
	And I am completely confident that none of those decisions that you refer to had anything to do with the specific interests of any individual firm, much less Goldman Sachs.
	What does that mean, much less Goldman Sachs?
	Take it from Timmy.
	Timmy says, I am completely confident there was no gambling going on here.
	I won't play the rest of it.
	Well, I think that's pretty apparent that he's not going to say anything.
	You want to hear his answer about his own tax evasion?
	Oh, yeah.
	Yeah, that's right.
	I forgot he's a tax evader.
	Yeah.
	Like seven years worth of taxes.
	Oh, I'm sorry.
	I forgot to pay.
	So, of course, the question is, hey, is it too difficult to figure out what you're supposed to pay in taxes, Timmy?
	From Zwentkos, 690 digs.
	You failed to pay some of your federal taxes in 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004.
	Please explain.
	You've explained it before.
	They're asking you to explain.
	So he's actually saying, you've explained it before.
	Please explain it again.
	What does he do?
	He doesn't explain it.
	You know, it's an understandable thing.
	I was the President's nominee to be Secretary of the Treasury.
	You would expect my tax history to be of interest to the American people.
	It's a completely understandable thing.
	And one great strength about our system is the people who were asked to do these jobs.
	This is great.
	He's already gone off to another topic.
	He's not answering your question.
	Have to go through an exceptionally careful review of their entire financial, personal, professional history.
	That's good.
	And a great strength of our system is all that information was put in the public domain.
	Congress of the United States had the opportunity to go through.
	Ah, it makes me puke.
	We're transparent.
	That's all he's going to say.
	He doesn't answer the question.
	Just says it's really good that everyone could find out about it.
	Isn't it?
	Wasn't that really good?
	That was fabulous.
	So, of course, the reason why Timmy Geithner is interesting is he's part of this lawsuit now that is ongoing about, I think, Bloomberg.
	We talked about this months and months ago.
	Bloomberg is suing the Federal Reserve, not the Treasury necessarily, but the Treasury, of course, involved, to find out who the Federal Reserve lent $2 trillion worth of money, our money to, what banks that was.
	And of course, the Federal Reserve says, well, we can't tell you that.
	That's your money.
	You're not supposed to know.
	And then we have Dr. Ron Ron Paul, Congressman Ron Paul's bill, HR 1207, which calls for an audit of the Federal Reserve.
	And the Federal Reserve is saying, oh, well, we can't do that.
	We have to separate monetary policy from politics.
	We don't want the politicians messing around with that, do we?
	Not in our private little affairs, our little bank, our little scam that's going on here.
	But Barney Frank...
	Slips up, John, and he says that H.R. 1207, Ron Paul's bill, to audit the Federal Reserve will actually pass the House in October.
	What you said would never happen.
	No?
	You want to hear him say it?
	No, I'm not saying that he didn't say it.
	I'm just saying the Federal Reserve is not going to get audited.
	Barney Frank says it's going to happen.
	Barney Frank...
	Twinkle toes.
	Barney Frank says it's going to happen.
	Well, his actual words are...
	You'll find the YouTube video.
	It's hard to understand his actual words, isn't it?
	It sounds like he's got a mouthful of mush.
	Hold on a second.
	It's pretty easy to understand.
	Fast forward to the actual...
	I'm running a prostitution ring for my house in Washington, D.C. But that's okay because...
	Yeah, let me fast forward to the bit where it actually says it.
	...that lending power.
	We are going to put some restraints on it.
	Finally, we will subject them to a complete audit.
	I've been working with Ron Paul, who's the main sponsor of that bill.
	He agrees that we don't want to have the audit appear as if it is influencing monetary policy, because that would be inflation.
	I mean, Ron and I agree on that.
	And we also say one of these...
	Interesting.
	So the reason why, you said it would create an inflationary run.
	So I guess the whole thought behind this is, if they find out which banks were lent all this money, people would have a run on that bank and would pull their money out and that would be an inflationary run.
	Is that what would happen, Mr.
	Economist?
	Well, I'm not Mr.
	Economist by any means, but I can tell you this much.
	If I found out my bank had a whole crap load of money, I'd feel a lot more secure about the bank.
	I wouldn't go take the money out.
	No, exactly.
	Besides that, all your money is insured anyway.
	This whole thing is not going to create...
	If they're starting to talk about an inflationary run, they're trying to set up...
	Set up a bank.
	They're trying to set up a bank to fail.
	That's what they're doing.
	They're going to set up some banks to go down.
	Here, listen to Barney.
	Last 30 seconds.
	What I will show you is what the Federal Reserve buys themselves.
	And that will be made public, but not instantly.
	Because if that was made instantly, you would have a lot of people trading off of that, and it would have too much impact on the market.
	Again, Ron agrees with that.
	So we will probably have that data released after a time period of several months, enough time, so it wouldn't be market sensitive.
	That will be part of the overall federal regulation that we are adopting.
	The House will pass it probably in October.
	There you go.
	The House will pass it probably in October.
	Barney Frank said it.
	Yeah, okay.
	Well, they probably will pass it, maybe.
	Anyway, ByteLaw just sent me an interesting thing, which is Geithner's notice of resignation before he took the job.
	Not of his resignation to his other things when he took the job.
	He had to resign from a bunch of things to take the government job, right?
	Yeah, it was only public service, though, right?
	No, public service only.
	He was a public servant.
	He just told us so.
	Well, that may be true of what he said, but here's what it says on this little note that he signed.
	By the way, his signature is very strange.
	Upon confirmation, I'll also resign from my positions with the following entities.
	The Center for Global Development, board member, the Economic Club of New York, Whoa.
	Whoa.
	Whoa.
	The Bank for International Settlements, direct.
	The Peterson Institute for International Economics, director.
	And the New York State Commission to Modernize Financial Services, member.
	I'll bet you this dude was pulling down a million a year easily in board fees.
	He says, I do not hold any financial interest in these entities.
	For a period of one year after my resignation from each of these entities, I will not participate personally in What, for one year?
	Only one year?
	For a period of one year after my resignation from each of these entities, I will not participate.
	Is he saying he's only going to be in this job for a year or what?
	Well, doesn't that mean that after a year he can hop right back in?
	That's what it sounds like.
	Jeez.
	Here, put this on the show notes and let people deal with it.
	I don't think people...
	Message from John C. Morinac.
	Hey, I got a message.
	Okay.
	That's why you do it, right?
	John C. Dvorak.
	Message from John C. Dvorak.
	Shut up.
	Stop it.
	Oh, nice message.
	Thank you.
	I think I can have a...
	This is great.
	Yeah, it's quite interesting.
	Oh, this is amazing.
	Oh, wow.
	I wish someone would analyze this initial.
	He was just a guy out there doing his public service.
	Yeah, public service.
	Right.
	The Rand Corporation.
	What a lying sack of shit this guy is.
	I just got to call him on it.
	So let's go with a clip I've got here.
	I wanted to get the one thing out of the...
	One thing out of the way, because I think there's a breakthrough commercial came out that needs to be discussed a little bit since we were still on medical for a while.
	I wanted to get this out of the way, which is, you know, one of our commercials which has the disclaimers.
	Oh yes, of course, disclaimers as we know.
	Look at your pack of cigarettes.
	When it says that you will die a horrible, painful death, it actually triggers your brain to want to buy them.
	Now, this one is for some...
	I'm going to get a setup on this.
	This one's for some Balta, which is an anti-depression drug.
	And if you can listen to the beginning...
	We might have to play it over.
	At the very beginning, you hear somebody laughing.
	Ha!
	And then you hear some birds tweeting.
	Tweet, tweet, tweet.
	Oh, this is all very important.
	And then she goes into her little pitch about what depression is all about.
	And she says, do you want to meet people?
	And then there's a dog bark.
	Just down the middle of nowhere.
	It's very interesting, the subtleties behind...
	Oh, and you know they researched that shit.
	You know they've researched all of that stuff.
	Absolutely.
	You get your alert to the dog bark.
	Woof.
	Anyway, and it's all subtle.
	But then when she kicks into her, this girl who's the announcer, who's quite good, but then they obviously, they've taken the part where she has all the disc doors, and they've sped her up, and they've also clipped out a lot of the white space.
	In fact, there's one spot where she almost talks over herself.
	You know, we could do a three-hour show if we did that, if we sped it up and cut out the white spaces.
	Exactly.
	Now, I want you to play this, but the thing that's noteworthy, I'll bring up at the end.
	It's a very short, pro, and then very long.
	The disclaimer is unbelievable.
	Okay, this is the commercial for Cymbalta.
	When you're depressed, where do you want to go?
	Nowhere.
	What do you feel like seeing?
	Depression hurts in so many ways.
	Sadness, loss of interest, anxiety.
	Cymbalta can help.
	Cymbalta is a prescription medication that treats many symptoms of depression.
	Tell your doctor right away if your depression worsens.
	You have unusual changes in behavior or thoughts of suicide.
	Antidepressants can increase these in children, teens, and young adults.
	Cymbalta is not approved for children under 18.
	People taking MAOIs or thyridosine or with uncontrolled glaucoma should not take Cymbalta.
	Taking it with NSAID pain relievers, aspirin, or blood thinners may increase bleeding risk.
	Severe liver problems, some fatal, were reported.
	Signs include abdominal pain and yellowing of the skin or eyes.
	Talk with your doctor about your medicines, including those for migraine, or if you have high fever, confusion, and stiff muscles to address a possible life-threatening condition.
	Tell your doctor about alcohol use, liver disease, and before you reduce or stop taking Cymbalta.
	Dizziness or fainting may occur upon standing.
	Side effects include nausea, dry mouth, and constipation.
	Ask your doctor about Cymbalta.
	Depression hurts.
	Cymbalta can help.
	Cymbalta rocks, dude.
	This sounds like awesome stuff.
	You might get dizzy when standing.
	So here's the interesting thing about this commercial, besides the fact that I like the dog.
	You heard the dog bark, I think.
	Yeah, I heard the tweet tweet.
	I heard the dog.
	And I love the music and how it is depressing.
	It's like a Leonard Cohen vibe there.
	Here's what's interesting.
	The sales pitch at the beginning, which was very short, and it wasn't much of a sales pitch, just kind of depressing in itself.
	You know, you want to meet people, you can't.
	It was actually 20 seconds.
	The commercial had to run 1 minute and 15 seconds.
	15 seconds, yes.
	The whole commercial length is all the disclaimer of all the good stuff.
	Like you might want to kill yourself.
	In other words, this stuff is so weird that they can't even jam it into a one-minute commercial segment and they have to buy a special package because the way TV ads are sold, they're sold in 30-second and one-minute ads.
	There are some 15-second packages here and there.
	So they had to buy a...
	A special deal and get a minute and 15 to just keep yammering about what all the bad things can happen to you.
	It's unbelievable.
	But it's not bad, John.
	It's really good.
	That sounds exciting to me.
	I mean, there's all this great stuff that can happen.
	I mean, geez, and it's legal.
	I mean, why would you deal with the illegal crap?
	I'm waiting for the 1 minute and 30 second commercial, which is just laced with it.
	It couldn't even get to 30 seconds of sales pitch.
	It was 20 something, like 22.
	But what I never understand about antidepressants is, isn't it supposed to stop you from wanting to commit suicide?
	How come it actually can make you want to commit suicide?
	Because you looked at your doctor, Bill.
	Listen to that.
	You know what, you're paying for one of these pills?
	Let's listen to the actual, the pitch here is great.
	When you're depressed, where do you want to go?
	I want to go to the toilet.
	Nowhere.
	Nowhere.
	I just want to stay home and be depressed.
	Hey, this is...
	Wait, wait, I want to preface this.
	I generally don't want to leave the house and go see people either.
	John, this is for you.
	John, this is targeted directly at you.
	But I like it that way.
	Yeah.
	No.
	Roof!
	Depression hurts in so many ways.
	That's true.
	Sadness.
	Sadness.
	Loss of interest.
	No sex drive.
	Anxiety.
	Cymbalta can help.
	Cymbalta is a prescription medication that treats many symptoms of depression.
	Tell your doctor right away if your depression worsens.
	You have unusual changes in behavior or thoughts of suicide.
	Thanks, Doc.
	I now want to kill myself.
	Idiots.
	Stay away from these drugs.
	Really?
	Please.
	I mean, now I actually want to advocate weed again.
	So ByteLaw sent us another document which is Geithner's financial disclosures and in there he did not list the trilateral commission.
	Oh, missed one, Timmy.
	We'll talk about our friend Vivek.
	He's overseeing another fantastic project.
	Another $18 million website?
	Oh no, much better than that.
	You know, the TSA, the Transportation Security Administration, they have a lot of IT systems that, of course...
	If those were hacked for any reason, that could be serious business.
	They might not be able to detect your water in your bag going through the x-ray.
	So SRA International is going to help protect the information technology systems to prevent cyber attacks at the TSA. $53 million.
	Wow.
	For a firewall, essentially.
	Wow.
	Well, you know, if the public wants to get raped, that's fine.
	No one reports on this.
	Well, put it in our list of things to look into.
	Yeah, there wouldn't be any reports.
	Why would anybody bother?
	It's too complicated.
	So hit my clip just to change the pace here.
	It says hit something, hit mouth or something like that.
	Our formula is this.
	We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
	Obama, change you can believe in.
	What's the tag?
	So I want to play that every so often.
	It's a good transit.
	I think it's a good segue clip because it doesn't mean anything.
	It's actually a promotion for the San Francisco 49ers.
	Oh, good.
	But I don't think they're going to run it anymore because it's too much.
	It's got violence in the...
	Oh, yeah.
	Oh, yeah.
	That would be really bad.
	That would be really bad.
	So I find this would be a humorous clip.
	I got...
	I'm watching Clinton.
	Bill Clinton.
	He's talking to a bunch of liberal bloggers at some big meeting.
	And these people are just like...
	You look at the...
	How would these be like Daily Kos?
	Probably, but it was a huge gathering.
	It was a lot of people that were just, let's just put it this way, they're kind of looking and many are shapen.
	And we're talking about Hillary Clinton, right?
	And so Bill Clinton is giving, no, Bill Clinton is giving a speech to these people.
	And he just says something out of the blue that everybody, I eventually clap for him on this, but I'm listening to, I heard it a different way.
	And I know, you can just hear, listen to it and tell me if you're thinking what I'm thinking.
	Hillary's concluding a trip to Africa now with the only female elected president on the continent in Liberia, Ellen Johnson Sirleaf.
	But a couple of days ago, she was in Goma in the Congo, the site of one of the most difficult refugee camps in the entire world.
	I don't know what you think, but I think American Secretaries of State ought to be in the places of human misery around the world.
	Keep her there is what he's saying.
	He's saying keep her there.
	Did I misinterpret what he said there?
	I'm not sure.
	I think it's right.
	Bill, right on.
	Keep her there.
	Keep her in that refugee camp.
	She's nothing but trouble.
	She dissed me.
	She dissed me big time.
	That's good.
	I like that.
	So for my last presentation...
	I think.
	So I'm listening to...
	I've decided that the Law and Order Special Victims Unit, which we've talked about on the show before, is nothing more than a propaganda tool.
	Of course, we've already connected the producer of that show to be a bestest buddy of George Bush, who of course is still in bed with...
	It's all part of the gang.
	So this episode was about teen pregnancy.
	And it was a girl, one girl, some gang leader, you know, she decided that everyone in her group should get pregnant.
	So they all got pregnant based on some story, supposedly.
	It turns out, by the way, the story was bogus.
	I think the UK had a couple of cases of that.
	Yeah, and it turns out if you really look into it, there just was some journalist's idea of a good story.
	But anyway, just play this clip because it has a couple of interesting little cultural tidbits in it that I thought were amusing.
	Bailey, why don't we talk about the father of the baby, huh?
	So what's your story?
	Excuse me?
	You have kids.
	You're pretty old.
	We're here to talk about you.
	I bet you're jealous.
	Old chicks are totally jealous of me.
	That's how kids talk, by the way.
	I have a 19-year-old.
	That's exactly how they talk, not...
	Is that it?
	Could you wait too long?
	Tick-tock.
	Fidelia, a baby is not an accessory.
	It is not a bracelet or a pair of earrings or a slamming pair of jeans.
	Yeah, just ask Angelina Jolie.
	Or Madonna.
	It's not an accessory.
	Not to have one yourself.
	You've got to go get one from Africa.
	This is a living, breathing human being that you are bringing onto this earth.
	You think I don't know that?
	If you did, you'd be petrified about your future.
	Do you know the odds of a teen mom finishing high school?
	Forget college or any other dream that you might have.
	Life as you know it is over now.
	There's no going to the mall or hanging out with your friends.
	Oh, bummer.
	Life is ending.
	I mean, you might see them, but if you do, it'll probably be in line waiting for food stamps or all of you going to the doctor trying to get an appointment at the free clinic.
	Danny, make her be quiet.
	That's enough.
	Detective.
	Do you know the health risks to babies of teen moms?
	Dyslexia, retardation, increased risks of blindness, cerebral palsy.
	Daddy!
	Don't you try to blame my daughter!
	Oh my god.
	Is she so bad, this actress, that she's stumbling over the list that she's been given to read?
	Do you know the health risks to babies of teen moms?
	What?
	When she's reading that list, she actually looks down.
	At the list?
	She's looking at the list.
	Oh yeah, cool.
	Let's listen to it again.
	Health risks to babies of teen moms?
	Dyslexia?
	That almost sounds like an edit, man.
	I wonder if the video has an edit.
	Dyslexia?
	No, it didn't look real.
	Dyslexia, retardation, increased risks of blindness, cerebral palsy.
	Don't you try to blame my daughter!
	She's looking down.
	Right after dyslexia, she looks down at something.
	And I just got the sense that it was...
	She missed the blindness one.
	She couldn't remember what it was.
	You know, whatever works.
	Something wrong with our bananas, John.
	Or not ours, but...
	Oh, no, bananas are dying.
	There's going to be no more bananas in the world.
	No more bananas for you!
	Oh, sorry.
	Wrong one.
	No service for you!
	That's what I meant.
	Yeah, from Angola to Uganda, bananas are dying.
	And bananas are...
	Bananas are very...
	I'm not even going to look at your message.
	Bananas are very important food in...
	Well, in general, but in places like Africa.
	And they're dying.
	Yeah, well, we should probably both read about this, but I've been told a little bit about it, and apparently the strain of banana is the most popular banana.
	It's been inbred so much that essentially it has a genetic endpoint, whereas two or three more generations of the same banana, and it's just not going to stop.
	Well, you know, what do you mean?
	Of course it's going to stop, John.
	You know, there's always salvation.
	You know that, don't you?
	By the way, this is not the first banana breed that has died off on us.
	There used to be one that was more popular that we don't even know.
	You and I have never had one.
	Hmm, I wonder who could help in this situation.
	Monsanto!
	Hmm, I wonder.
	So I wonder if, so is Monsanto in the story?
	Let me see.
	I'll have to look at this extra link here.
	I'm sure they are.
	They're not.
	We're telling you, we're giving you the word up in advance, Monsanto.
	Get on it.
	Let me see.
	It's a BBC story.
	Scientists from the Consultative Group on International Agricultural Research, which I think the acronym is CIGAR, used the statement saying drastic and expensive control measures were needed.
	They recommended completely excavating entire banana fields and treating them with pesticides.
	Not mentioned specifically, but yeah, you know it's on its way.
	Yeah, hopefully.
	Doing what we can.
	We need Monsanto support.
	I was reading another thing about the International Paper Company, the world's largest pulp and paper maker.
	We've been following the paper industry for some weird reason.
	They plan to remake commercial forests in the same way Monsanto Corporation revolutionized farms with genetically modified crops.
	International Paper's ArborGen, Mead West Vaco Corp.
	and New Zealand's Rubicon Limited is seeking permission from the U.S. Department of Agriculture to sell the first genetically engineered forest trees outside of China.
	We're doomed.
	It's called West Vaco, by the way.
	Yeah.
	Well, we're doomed.
	I don't know whether you just can't genetically engineer paper to come out the ground as paper.
	Well, why don't we just use the Sony e-reader with their electronic paper?
	Yeah, there you go.
	You know, just let trees grow.
	I mean, jeez.
	I mean, they've got, I don't understand, they've got plants shutting down in Finland because there's not enough need for paper, but for some reason now the U.S. Department of Agriculture sees a need to put in franken forests?
	Yeah.
	I think there's a good need for that.
	That way you can make them in a smaller area.
	So I wanted to do some business.
	Our website, for some unknown reason, the PayPal link stopped working sometime around Thursday.
	So our income was off substantially.
	And I'm not going to blame everybody for not giving us money.
	A lot of them went there.
	But now you can go back.
	We also changed a couple of things on there.
	And I want to go through some of our donors.
	This is Sunday, so we have to do Donory Day.
	Did we get anyone asking for ringtones?
	That's the interesting thing.
	No.
	Okay.
	How incredibly interesting.
	It's interesting to me.
	It's like, you know, we don't want your ringtones.
	I don't think people actually listen to the show.
	They're just like, well, click on this button.
	Hey, here's a button to click.
	Oh, it works.
	Oh, let me give these guys some money.
	They're asking for a donation.
	That would be okay, too.
	Yeah.
	But let's go over the donors this week.
	We had Ian Smith from Cleveland, UK, give us 60.
	Anyone named Ian is usually from the UK.
	Yes, typically.
	John Matthews coughed up another 200.
	He's been giving us, he's putting together his own program to become a knight, so he's getting there.
	Wait a minute, is he on the layaway program?
	Yeah, no, he's on his, anyone who wants to do one of their own layaway programs, instead of clicking, it just wants to give certain amounts when they feel like it.
	But as long as they keep their own books, as far as I'm concerned, it's the same thing.
	It's all in the database, so it's not hard to figure out.
	BC Computers or BBC Computers.
	This is BC Computers in Bloomfield, Connecticut, 50.
	Then we have one from a guy who's given us money before he gave us another 100, but he doesn't want his name mentioned.
	He wants John Hawke's name mentioned.
	That's his boss, isn't it?
	Yeah.
	Curb Appeal Concrete.
	He's in the cement business.
	I bet you they bank with the mechanics bank.
	His boss needs a plug.
	Let's give him another plug, John.
	Please.
	I think that's a good idea if he's in the cement business.
	John Hawk in curb appeal concrete.
	Yeah.
	DUIhelp.com, another $50.
	TinyEmpire.com, $51.50.
	We know what that means.
	It means we're crazy.
	Then we got an interesting one from Rodri Phillips for $100.
	From Manamanama.
	Manamanama.
	Bahrain.
	Bahrain, really?
	The name of the town is Manamanama.
	Manamanama.
	Bahrain.
	Now you can use that in your next MarketWatch column.
	Manamana, manamana?
	Manamana, manamana.
	Manamana, manamana.
	Definitely.
	Alfred Person in the Hammett 100.
	Solomon, I think we mentioned him last week from Jackson Heights.
	The people who send us money on Sunday morning, sometimes they get mentioned twice, like Trevor Faucher in Seattle.
	Now, the one we missed, a couple people.
	One we missed, Jake Kelly, who sent us some coins.
	But the one I have to read, and it's going to take a little time here, but it's not going to take too long because it's probably worth the effort.
	This is Bob...
	Oh, hold on, John.
	I'm losing you.
	Okay, Barbara Starr said at 16, she wants us to plug Friends of Crowell Hilaka, which is apparently her old Girl Scout camp, and it's F-R-I-N-D-S, Friends of C-R-O-W-E-L-L-H-I-L-A-K-A. She says that some developers perhaps have talked the Girl Scouts Council into dumping this place to build condos or something, and she's annoyed.
	Okay, and how much did she donate for that plug?
	For that plug, $60.
	Oh, nice.
	Thank you.
	So it's $50 for the show and $10 for the plug.
	It's in Summit County, Ohio.
	Anyway, but anyway, I would like to encourage people to go check out the new donation page.
	Okay, so now it's working.
	Everything is, the buttons are working on the website.
	Okay.
	Yeah, and I added a new button for a $5 a month subscription.
	Okay.
	And, yeah, dvorak.org.
	And also you can link to it from noagenda.squarespace.com.
	You click on the shield and it'll jump over to the site.
	We're going to keep everything there so I can fix it when it needs to be fixed.
	I have no idea why those links went bad.
	Makes no sense.
	I think it might have to do with a relative link or something.
	Maybe.
	Yeah, where the domain name change or something like that.
	That's usually the kind of stuff that happens.
	I don't...
	Maybe.
	I don't know.
	Just the whole thing seems...
	I didn't make any changes.
	I didn't move any of the artwork around or anything.
	It just doesn't...
	Just died a miserable death.
	Okay.
	I do have one more little kind of wacky theory if you're interested.
	Yeah.
	Reading through at least the published health care bill, which is about the length of Atlas Shrugged.
	Oh yes, I got it in.
	It's over a thousand pages.
	There is a section in there...
	C11, Section 2521, National Medical Device Registry.
	And I'd just like to read this to you, and you tell me how you take it, and then I'll tell you my thoughts on this.
	The secretary, that meaning the Secretary of Health and Human Services, shall establish a national medical device registry, in this subsection referred to as the registry, kind of like Windows, to facilitate analysis of post-market safety and outcomes data on each to facilitate analysis of post-market safety and outcomes data on each device that, A, is or has been used in or on a patient, and B, is a class 3 device or a class 2 device that is
	Okay.
	So I'm thinking, this of course is not language that I can understand, because I'm not quite sure what it means to facilitate analysis of post-market safety and outcomes data.
	And why does it say outcomes data, not outcome data?
	I think this is the mark of the beast getting set up, John.
	I think this is the chip.
	They've got the chip baked right into the healthcare.
	They're talking about heart pacemakers, what they're talking about.
	Well, that's a chip too, isn't it?
	It's not a chip.
	It's a big clunky thing.
	Yeah, but your pacemaker will definitely have to be readable.
	Yeah.
	I'm not going for this one.
	Okay.
	I don't know.
	I was right on Gardasil.
	I should be a doctor.
	Oh, God, can you imagine?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	If Timmy Geithner can be Treasury Secretary, then I should be able to be a doctor.
	Should be no problem.
	Hey, play the Hit Me in the Mouth clip one more time.
	time I just want to hear it our formula is this We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
	Alright.
	That's the formula.
	Yeah, just a couple to...
	That's our formula dish.
	The United States may refuse a visa to Hamid Karzai's running mate.
	He, of course, is the CIA plant who has been running Afghanistan.
	This dude, his running mate, is so...
	And I think there may be a rift going on.
	I think Karzai actually believes in the hat, you know, made of lamb fetus skin, and that he actually thinks that it brings him power.
	Because everyone's, like, all over this dude now.
	Of course, the elections.
	He walked out of a meeting with Holbrook, who was the special envoy.
	Whatever that means.
	The envoy.
	Because his running mate is a known heroin drug trafficker.
	Yeah, go figure.
	So there's definitely something weird going on with the U.S. and their plant.
	Remember that Karzai was literally planted there.
	Bush went over and said, Hey, dude, here's your palace.
	You just watch it.
	Take care of everything here.
	So there's something brewing.
	Something else that I think we, if not specifically discussed, alluded to the weirdness of the cargo on that freighter that was hijacked by pirates.
	Now from multiple sources are saying, hey, you know, it seems like Israel's Secret Service, i.e.
	the Mossad, was behind the hijacking of this Russian freighter because it apparently had cruise missiles that were being shipped to Iran.
	Yeah, duh.
	But it was only supposed to be timber.
	So we'll put that in the show notes.
	When they say lay the wood to them, maybe they're talking about something else.
	And, of course...
	President Obama has provided some transparency about the search of the US border and customs patrol.
	They will still be able to search your laptop and any other electronic devices to make sure you don't have any terrorist data that you're trying to bring into the country, although it should now take no more than five days to scan your hard drive and no more than 30 days for searches by immigration and customs agents.
	So more of the same stuff.
	Hmm.
	Yeah, I know.
	I saw that thing where they can apparently grab your laptop for no good reason.
	Yeah, well, I thought that was going to go away, that idiocy, but I guess it's just staying right in there.
	So, more of the same.
	Anything else?
	Yeah, the problem is, well...
	Oh, I don't know.
	Oh, right, right, right.
	You're breaking up.
	Yeah, I'm...
	You're what?
	You're what?
	I think you need to check your machine because there's something seriously wrong with it.
	The thing is, I've done two other things on this machine recently, and it came in loud and clear both ways.
	So I think there's some mismatch.
	Or maybe it's this time.
	When we do the show at 8 in the morning, we have less problems, but as we go later in the day, these things start to crop up.
	Okay, then let me ask you this finally.
	John, do you sometimes eat tortillas?
	Occasionally.
	Do you drink...
	Who doesn't?
	Do you drink...
	What is it?
	Tecate or Tecate beer?
	Tecate?
	I don't drink Tecate.
	I think it tastes like pee.
	Okay.
	It tastes like pee.
	But you might.
	I mean, if someone served it to you...
	Well, it smells like pee.
	It smells like pee.
	I don't know what pee tastes like.
	Are you known to play Spanish music sometimes?
	I have been known to play Spanish music.
	Well, John, then you qualify for the warning issued by the U.S. Forest Service, which is investigating and targeting campers who eat tortillas, drink tecate beer, and play Spanish music because you might be growing marijuana illegally, my friend.
	And what's the reason for this?
	Well, they issued...
	They issued a warning and said you've got to be on the lookout for campers in Colorado in the National Forests who are eating tortillas, drinking Tecate beer, and play Spanish music because you're probably growing marijuana illegally.
	And they're profiling people who actually do participate in these three activities.
	Senor, senor the tortillas are going to give us away!
	But the beer smells like pee.
	It does smell like pee.
	You know, when somebody said that once at Tecate, there used to be a story that the Mexicans peed in Tecate because they went to the United States with it.
	And I said, what a crock of crap.
	And then somebody at one of these stores around here, a huge pallet of Tecate fell over and busted all over the place so you'd smell it.
	And I could see where that rumor came from.
	It smells like pee.
	Coming to you from a rather noisy 17th century canal house crackpot command center where I believe the sushi is being prepared.
	Someone's hungry.
	I'm Adam Curry.
	And from the...
	I see the veil of fog lifting now in northern Silicon Valley.
	I'm John C. Dvorak.
	We will talk to you again on Thursday at 8 a.m.
	Gitmo Nation West time right here on No Agenda.

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