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125: Breaking News: Ted Kennedy Is Dead
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Look at all these women around here.
They're all dogs.
Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak.
August 27th, 2009.
Time for your Gitmo Nation Audio Publication, Episode 125.
This is No Agenda.
Coming to you from the 17th Century Canal House Crackpot Command Center in Amsterdam, Gitmo Nation East, where the mark of the beast is official as of today.
I'm Adam Curry.
And from northern Silicon Valley, where a heat wave is afoot, I'm John C. Dvorak.
They finally made it official, John.
The chip that people will carry everywhere is now official in the Netherlands.
You can no longer use public transport without the chip card.
The chip card.
Yes, the RFID. They call it the...
I forget what they call it.
When are they going to put the chip in the people?
They're getting there.
They're actually...
There was this...
Oh, it's funny.
I was listening to this on the radio.
There was a big dance party on the beach over the weekend, and it got out of hand, and the cops were surrounded by the public, and then the cops started shooting, and...
Shooting?
Yeah, shooting, and...
The shooting?
Yes, like with their firearms.
Yeah, and so one kid died of a shot wound, and six others were wounded, of which one other seriously.
And so immediately the word came out, well, you know, it is possible that he was killed by a police bullet, i.e., you know, yeah, they're getting ready for the evidence to come out.
And so the mayor of, I think it's Rotterdam, actually, has come out and said, okay, that's it, we've got to ban all parties, no more parties ever again.
And so I was listening to the radio this morning, Mickey and I were driving the car down to the south of Holland for some business, and there was this whole discussion where the right-wing political party is saying, well, you know what we could do?
We could still do parties, but why don't we put a chip into the people who have been troublemakers in the past, and we can identify them.
I'm like, they're really seriously discussing this shit.
Put a chip in the troublemakers.
So anyway, so the managing director of this whole...
Wait, wait, wait.
You know, if you put a chip in the troublemakers, only the troublemakers will have chips.
No, I think it'd be kind of interesting because the troublemakers can then group up with each other by having a scanner and then finding other troublemakers.
Yeah, exactly.
And forming gangs of troublemakers.
We need to find each other.
It's going to be very easy.
Really?
So the managing director of this whole big system, they've had a campaign going on for a long time.
The only way you'll be able to travel with public transport is with this RFID card.
And everyone's got to use it starting August 27th.
And so this guy is, of course, the managing director.
He's the first one to use it, right?
He's like, oh, look, here it is.
And he gets stuck in the turnstile.
Is that true?
Yes.
That's a real PR nightmare if you're trying to make this thing.
You couldn't go forwards or backwards.
Sounds like the Keystone cops are running the place.
I'm telling you, man.
I'm telling you.
So what is a tourist supposed to do?
Well, I think the way it works is probably the same as the Oyster card in the UK where you buy the empty card or maybe you buy it with one or two bucks on it and then you can top it up.
But of course what they really want is they want you to buy one that is associated with you.
In fact, they also announced today that kids can buy meals at school with their RFID card.
So the process is already well underway here in Gitmo Nation East.
What is the point?
What are they afraid of?
Why are they chipping people?
It makes no sense.
What do you mean, why?
So they can track you, of course.
What do you mean, why?
What do they expect to get out of it?
It's handy.
Why are we doing this?
It's handy.
It makes you have to do less work.
It is.
It's really handy.
But think about it.
They're putting kids' lunch money onto these cards, so if you're a bad kid, no lunch for you!
Bad kid.
How many bad kids?
Well, I guess there's a bunch of drunks over there.
How many genuinely bad kids are there?
Yeah, well, there's, you know, this country is pretty, there's a fantastic book that I saw advertised and I bought it.
I love this.
Written by, I think, like a 72-year-old artist.
She's a painter, Ine Fein.
And the book is called Mort Namens de Kron, which roughly translates to murder in...
Oh, what is the word I'm looking for?
Murder...
By Order of the Crown.
And it's about Pim Fortin, the politician who was all set to win the elections in, I think, 2002 it was?
No, 2000, 2001.
Remember that everyone called him the Dutch Le Pen, and everyone was really freaking out.
Of course, the whole country was behind the guy, and he actually won.
His party won posthumously.
But he was assassinated outside of a radio studio.
And she got a hold of a report...
From the Dutch version of the FBI, the Bindelandsveiligheidsdienst.
Maybe you call it CIA. And in it, it talks of a second shooter.
And apparently there were like five bullets in his head, two of which were different caliber and from a different weapon.
So they went for a head shot because if he couldn't take a chance, he was wearing a bulletproof vest.
Yep, they went for the head shot.
Two to the head.
And so I'm very excited.
There's some of me, some crackpots here in Holland.
I love it.
Yeah, I'm sure there's more than a few.
But it wouldn't surprise me, I'll tell you that.
That guy was, he was going to sweep, the people were freaking out, he was going to sweep the elections, and he did.
Of course, the party fell apart, because without their leader, they were all screwed up.
Yeah, that's typical.
Yeah, which was a shame.
People say, oh, that's just crazy.
I say, well, it's based upon a report from the...
That's crazy talk!
That's just crazy!
So, of course, although I'm not in the United States right now, I can only surmise that the news is all about the death of Teddy Kennedy.
Over the last couple of days, yeah, it's been like, in fact, my wife was irked the other day.
CBS in particular is all over this, and for some reason you have to kind of figure out what CBS, CBS being very much in the Obama camp.
Oh, I can tell you why.
I'll tell you why in a minute.
Well, tell me why now, because it'll be a good back story.
Well, it's very convenient, of course, and unfortunate.
The guy died of brain cancer, and of course he's the last of what we call royalty, I guess, in the United States.
But very convenient for him to die on the very same day that the news comes out that the deficit will rise by $2 trillion more than expected.
Of course, a lot of that is the proposed health care reform.
Unemployment is going to blast through the double digits.
We're going to go through 10%.
All of this horrible, horrible economic news, and that is completely snowed under by Teddy Kennedy.
Yeah, he could have been dead for days for all we know.
Keep it quiet.
He's too early, damn it.
We've got to wait until we have to release the numbers.
Because you're not reading anything about the numbers, obviously.
You're not hearing anything about that.
I can just guess.
Yeah, no, it's wall-to-wall.
This is Michael Jackson 2.
Without the dancing.
Right.
But anyway, there's a new drama that we like to watch because it just has a great character called The Mentalist.
Oh, what's the premise of this?
The premise is this guy is a magician who is also good at reading people and...
And can feign reading your mind kind of thing.
He's a consultant with the police department.
The California Bureau of Investigation actually.
And he goes from case to case and kind of figures out who did it.
It's actually very entertaining.
It's very well done.
The structure is nice.
It's paced well.
So it's one of the shows where now the family is watching.
So there was a rerun.
My daughter didn't get to see, so they're showing the thing.
And right in the middle of it, unlike every other network who just had a crawler at the bottom, they interrupted the show and went on for 15 minutes.
God, are they out of their mind?
They interrupted the show?
The family was watching, darn it!
Well, that is absolutely the fact.
I mean, why are they interrupting the show?
Because this was, I mean, if it was Schwarzenegger or something local, or actually there was a Washington, but if it was something local...
But I had to tell anybody this, maybe they don't know, but Ted Kennedy was a senator from Massachusetts.
And he got handed that senatorship, didn't he?
He wasn't actually elected, I think.
His first time around, I'm not sure.
I'm pretty sure it was the handoff deal.
Well, whatever the case was, he re-elected a lot.
But anyway, it is national news at one level, but not World War III. The point is, my daughter didn't get to see the episode, darn it, because of Viacom's corruption.
Hey, Ron...
Viacom's corruption.
Does your daughter know that she'll be paying for your death squad?
Death panel.
Death panel, I'm sorry.
Death squad.
I meant death squad, actually.
Is she aware of that at least, or do you not talk about that at home?
She even listens to this show.
Ten trillion dollars.
That's what the Oversight Management Board is saying.
Ten trillion dollars.
It adds up.
It certainly does.
You know, it's like, how egotistical are we as human beings that we're willing to save our ass now and have our great-grandchildren take the rap?
You know, it's just how egotistical are we?
I mean, when will someone just stand up and say, you know what?
Fuck that shit.
We need to change it for the better.
I'm going to sacrifice myself right now.
There you go.
I'll sacrifice myself.
I'll take no health care so that my grandchildren can have it.
Oh, Jesus.
Right in the middle of that, John gets blown out of the water.
Hey, man.
That's one.
Let me see if I can...
I already know what the cut-in is.
Well, hold on a second.
We may not have to cut in.
Maybe you're still up.
Hold on.
That's kind of weird.
Say something.
Testing one, two, three.
Yeah, you're still on.
Cool.
Yeah, if you call back, then it works, apparently.
Oh, okay.
Where did you lose me?
I was saying that we need to sacrifice ourselves for the good of our grandchildren.
Yeah, I said something along the lines of, that's the way it's always been.
I mean, this has been forever.
So, I mean, we cheat the system somehow.
I never really...
Yeah, by printing more money, and we're going to run out.
It's over.
No, we're not going to run out of paper.
That's the point.
Finland is shutting down the paper plants.
What are you talking about?
Actually, we are running out of paper.
In fact, paper may become as valuable as gold one of these days.
It is.
So, why don't we, before we get off the Kennedy thing, I want you to play the Kennedy clip that I have.
Now, what's the name of the clip?
The name of the clip is Kennedy NPR Special.
Yeah.
They did a special on the Kennedy clan.
The one of many.
It was about Joe Kennedy and the fact that he's a mobster.
Well, he made all his money during Prohibition, right?
Running bootleg liquor.
And he's well-connected.
And so the whole thing is about all these kind of crooked deals.
But the one...
And of course, you know, they...
I mean, if Ted Kennedy is lionized, you know, you don't...
I mean, he doesn't hold a candle to John Kennedy.
And then...
So there's this...
So I'm going to play...
Wait, wasn't it supposed to be Joe Kennedy?
No, what was the...
I don't know who Joe Kennedy Jr.
was going to be, but he got killed in the war.
He was supposed to be the main...
Isn't it amazing how three, nay, four kids from one family were all either slated to be president or...
I mean, how does that work?
That can only mean that there's some kind of corruption going on.
Yeah, well, here, play this clip, and this is Tip O'Neill.
By the way, this is the narrator followed by, in the middle there's Tip O'Neill laughingly, who used to be the speaker of the House, laughingly talking about how they basically bribed their way into getting Kennedy elected.
Play it.
Kennedy carried Wisconsin, but he did lose key Protestant districts, and the next contest was in an overwhelmingly Protestant state, West Virginia.
To win there, Kennedy would have to confront the religious issue at every public appearance.
Senator Kennedy, how can we stop the religious issues that keep coming up to confuse the public?
Ronjan, what were those religious issues with the Protestants at the time?
Kennedy was the first Catholic president.
The Protestants in the United States historically were skeptical of Rome and specifically the Pope.
They always felt that if a Catholic president was elected, he would just take orders from the Pope.
That's the dude in that cool car, huh?
Exactly.
I think that...
Oh, I don't mind.
I must say that we shouldn't boo because it's a...
I am running for the presidency, which is a powerful office, giving great power under the Constitution, and it is a matter of concern to a good many people, and the best way to get it answered, it seems to me, is to ask the question openly.
West Virginia was not only Protestant, it was notoriously corrupt.
Once again, the Kennedys left nothing to chance.
I tell a story about Eddie Ford.
Eddie Ford went out there, pocket full of money.
This is a tip on you?
Yeah.
You see a sheriff.
I didn't say to the Sheriff, Sheriff, I'm from Chicago.
I'm on my way south.
I love this young Kennedy boy.
He can help this nation.
My God, he's got the feeling for it, you know.
He'll do things for West Virginia.
I'll tell you what he said.
Here's 3,000.
Here's 5,000, he said.
You carry your village for him or your county for him, and I'll give you a little reward when I'm on my way back.
Wow.
FBI wiretaps would later show that underworld figures said to have old ties to Joe Kennedy were also distributing funds on behalf of the Kennedy campaign.
Kennedy won West Virginia and all of the primaries.
Yeah.
Yeah, that makes sense.
That's what Mayor Daley did for Obama.
Yeah, there's that.
There's that.
It's like, you know, but it's funny that, you know, they're just rife with, the whole system is rife with this sort of corruption.
Everybody loves Jack Kennedy.
No, what's funny is, if there's only one small discrepancy, or if there's, you know, anything goes wrong with the voting on American Idol, the country is up in arms, we are pissed off to no end, because it should have been the other dude with the hair who won.
But when it comes to...
I'm sure you've heard the voting machines.
You probably blogged it, that a couple of guys proved that it's very easy to, or relatively easy, to change the votes in the voting machines that are used in many districts in the U.S. I mean, this whole voting machine thing, it's rigged.
The whole thing is rigged.
Yeah, it makes it easier.
I think you're right.
I think a lot of this has to do with just ease.
Yeah.
Making things easier.
By the way, there was a movie, and the listeners maybe can help me here.
- Oh, those listeners who... - And this movie came out in the, I think it must have come out in the late 60s, early, mid 70s, early 70s, 70s, I don't know.
I saw it at the Pacific Film Archives, and it was, at the time I was watching, I said, "This is the most ridiculously stupid movie I have ever seen in my life." And it was a movie that was documenting the various mob families and who they'd run for president.
And like every, especially in the Democrat Party, everybody that, Lyndon Johnson was representing one part of one mob family, and Kennedy was representing another mob family.
Well, they're all gangsters, John.
Of course they are.
We know that the Clintons and Bush families have been working together for years, running drugs through, you know, Mena, Arkansas.
This is, they're all thugs and gangs.
It makes total sense.
Why do we believe otherwise?
Well, I just would like to find, you know, the thing is, this was so well documented, even though I thought it was bogus, because I was a Well, because you were not awakened by then.
I wasn't the skeptic that I've become.
Through experience, I might add.
Yes.
And through research.
Experience and research.
Research.
So there's an interesting story breaking as we speak.
Oh, what's that?
Wait, do we have a breaking news story?
No.
Sorry, we don't.
No, we have it.
Well, I want to preface it with a clip.
Well, we do.
We have a...
Breaking news!
Breaking news!
Did I blow you out?
No, that was it.
I think that horn only should be used for when we have...
Duplication.
We need a different noise, because that should be for repeating ourselves.
Yes.
Anyway, the...
Which clip do you want me to proceed the breaking news with?
Well, I want you to run the Olbermann clip.
I've got three of them.
Oh.
I got Olbermann, add one, worst person, and three, add something.
Well, there's a couple of weirdnesses going on with Olbermann.
Now, you're not going to get into the whole news network fighting news network thing again, are you?
No, no, no.
Is Olbermann relevant?
I mean, how many people watch him?
He's got big numbers.
His numbers have gotten, and he's getting a big head, which is hard to believe.
But which is very good for your television career.
It's hard to believe.
But what's interesting are the commercials they're running around his show.
Oh, let me guess.
Big Pharma?
No, that's what's interesting about it.
Really?
I think Obermann won.
Okay, let's check it out.
I have health care.
Health care is then rationed.
Also, the quality of health care with socialized medicine is greatly reduced.
You will wait months and years for treatment.
Many of the people will not get treatment at all.
You will pay for free health care for over 20 million illegal aliens.
Obama and the Democrats know that socialized medicine does not work.
They want it because it gives them more power over you.
You can stop the horrors of socialized medicine from happening to you by joining the U.S. Citizens Association.
Membership is free.
Call now.
I'm going to have my name.
Or go to initiationassistinacitism.com.
Wait a minute.
I scrambled that myself.
I was going to say, why did you scramble it?
Because you didn't want to promote it.
I'm not putting out somebody else's phone numbers.
Wait, so if I play that backwards, then I get the number and I can find the website?
I'll give you the number.
Please.
So that's an anti-Obama, and you would think, an anti-Oberman type of ad.
Yeah, that was right before, or right during one of the breaks, and I was going, wow, somebody screwed up.
But...
I'm wondering whether it's a honeypot or what it is because when I listen to that ad, it's basically everything's free, free, free.
This is a mailing list operation.
I was going to say, you know, maybe we should actually call the number because maybe it's, you know, as you say, a honeypot where you call up and then they try to convert you.
Or whatever.
Or just get your name on a mailing list.
What's the website?
What's the website that they gave out?
Come on, John.
It's the name of the group.org.
I think something like that.
Thanks.
I can go get...
I'd have to play the real clip without the unedited clip to figure it out.
But let's go...
Anyway, that's an example of the ads they're running on that show, which I thought was weird.
Surprising.
Surprising.
Now, the more surprising one, because I've never heard an ad for this ever, is...
I think it's the third clip for Olbermann.
You...
I'm not your name.
You're not your job.
You're not the clothes you wear or the neighborhood you live in.
You're not your fears, your failures, or your past.
You are hope.
Stop it.
Stop it.
Now you gotta guess what you think it's gonna be.
Um...
I think this is...
Wow.
Is this targeted at college kids?
I don't know.
Hit it.
You are imagination.
You are the power to change, to create, and to grow.
You are all that you can be?
A spirit that will never die.
And no matter how beaten down, you will rise again.
Scientology.
Know yourself.
Whoa!
Wait a minute.
These guys must be hard up for money, man.
So they're taking Scientology dough and they're taking anti-Obama ad money?
That's what it sounds like.
And this, by the way, went right into a Rachel Maddow house ad.
Hmm.
You are scientific.
Have you ever read Dianetics by Ron L. Hubbard?
Yeah, I'm familiar with it.
Have you actually read it?
I couldn't get through it.
It was just too much for me.
I read it.
You know, I read it one vacation.
You read Atlas Shrugged.
Yeah.
Oh, I did it.
I mentioned it.
Don't let me do it again.
Whoa!
I have not seen the...
I've got to put up the link, the Amazon.com link.
I'm going to start promoting all these wacky books.
So yes, you did it again.
But Dianetics, it's not a bad book.
It's not.
I like just...
My advice, people can read it.
It doesn't seem as freaky as the people who try and get you clear who are stopping on the street with that voltometer or whatever it is.
E-meter.
E-meter.
The predecessor to the iPod.
It had some pretty logical stuff in there.
A lot of the book is about what a fetus actually feels while it's inside the womb and what it hears and the whole idea of not disturbing it.
Well, if you thought you were getting an interesting commentary from the Ayn Rand book, You know, I haven't.
The only thing I've gotten, let me tell you, dude.
The only thing I've gotten is good.
You can honk the horn when you say dude from now on.
No, I will not.
I've gotten good feedback.
People are like, hey man, thanks for pointing that out.
That's a pretty interesting book.
I don't know if they've actually gotten through it all.
Have you started yet, John?
Mr.
Criticaster?
Yeah, I have.
I've started.
It's sitting over on the toilet, so when I'm taking a dump, I read a couple pages.
Yeah.
It really helps.
I'm telling you, you get out of the bathroom a lot faster.
I read gossip magazines, primarily ones that have me in it when I'm taking a dump.
I get out real fast.
I'm being raked over the coals again.
I was walking down the street and I had one of my roll-ups in my mouth.
Oh yeah, there's Adam Curry smoking dope.
Oh yeah, totally.
It's all over the news.
Hey, he's on dope again.
He's stoned again.
I'm like, dude, it's just a fucking tobacco.
So, alright, so here's some actual interesting political news.
And this requires playing one more clip.
Wow, we're all over the clips.
This one will be the clip number two, which is the long clip.
The worst person?
Yeah, Olbermann does this thing called the worst person in the world!
And so he cites some poor schlub who happens to be a PR guy defending his congressmen for apparently being politically incorrect and allowing somebody to use the word terrorist in a joking manner.
And I've noticed this with Olbermann, which is a show worth watching occasionally if you can put up with Olbermann, who has got no sense of humor.
And a big head.
And he's got this huge head that just fills the screen, and he's really serious, and he stares, and he purses his lips, and he's really serious.
What did he do before this?
Was he like a comedian?
No, no.
He got his reputation by being fired by ESPN. Yeah, right.
He was a sports guy.
I thought it was something like that.
Yeah, sports commentator.
And he dreamed up the show some time ago, and it was a huge flop until the election came around, and he decided to go overboard with being an Obama bot.
I mean, really over the time.
And he started getting a following, and then he picked up some better writers, and the show is actually pretty full of material.
But a lot of it is just really sketchy, and this particular piece, if you listen to it, it leads me right into a news story that I found interesting.
Okay.
But our winner tonight, Matt Lavoie, the spokesman for yesterday's worst, Congressman Wally Herger of Chico, California.
After a constituent, now identified as Bert Stead of Redding, California, stood up at a Herger town hall and identified himself as a, quote, proud right-wing terrorist.
Congressman Herger responded not with any rebuke, but by saying, Amen, God bless you, there is a great American.
His spokesman, Mr.
Lavoie, now says the congressman has no intention of apologizing for praising a self-described terrorist.
He says, quote, the comment was in jest.
The man was using satire to make his point, which does not have a damn thing to do with it.
As I said last night, even if he was being allegorical or hyperbolic, this is not language to bandy about.
Not when people on both sides are showing up with submachine guns or guns in town hall.
Not when members of right-wing militias are showing up at town halls.
When faced with this crap on the eve of last year's election, even Senator McCain's conscience got the better of him, and he reprimanded a woman spouting hate speech against McCain's rival.
Congressman Herger and his spokesman need to do the same, and until they do, they are contributing to this climate of paranoia and violence enveloping our political system.
Until they say something, Congressman Herger and this spokesman are not defending the Constitution.
They are threatening it.
Matt LaVoy, the spokesman for Congressman Wally Herger, 2nd District, California.
Today's worst person in the world.
Yeah.
Okay.
So this guy, so he brings up the violence thing.
First of all, I love the Phantom of the Opera music that goes along with that.
That's pretty dramatic.
Yeah.
So, the story breaks this morning that some punk who had apparently busted up, this is the violence part, by the way, busted up the Democratic headquarters in, I think, Denver and defaced a bunch of Obama signs and, you know, busted a window.
Inside the actual offices?
No, they threw rocks through the window.
They just busted up the place to some extreme.
And it was blamed on pissed-off Republicans who were...
Who were funded by the insurance companies.
So they...
But by coincidence, these kids, I guess, went around here and there.
Kids, one of them's 24.
I guess they're both in their mid-20s.
And some cop, by coincidence, caught him.
And the guy's a Democrat operative.
Ha!
Really?
Yeah, he's a Democrat.
He's been a paid canvasser.
He got $500 for canvassing for some...
It's on my blog, Dvorak.org.
You should check it out.
And I'm beginning to now think that...
Okay, so the idea is...
And of course, the Denver Post is very supportive of Obama.
It says, no, he's not a Democrat.
He's an anarchist.
And I'm thinking, yeah, sure.
He also apparently was arrested in Minnesota trying to disrupt the Republican convention.
This guy's just one of these guys.
He's just a troublemaker.
He should be chipped.
He's a paid troublemaker, but it's like, now it's turned out that there's a whole bunch of listings on Craigslist to get, you know, with the title, summer jobs that make a difference, where they pay you $350 to $500 to go work.
Oh yeah, that's been going on for weeks.
Right, to go in.
Craigslist stuff, yeah.
And there's no reason for them, you know, the idea here is just to make the Republicans look bad.
And I was thinking about this because I've been watching a lot of these town hall meetings and there's this really sketchy stuff that comes up and, you know, from the supposed radical Republicans, these Republican terrorists that, you know, can barely get away from the television set, let alone go protest.
My commentary is simple.
What Republicans do you know that go drive around on bicycles and throwing rocks at places like these two kids were doing?
The Republicans, unless a church organizes a protest and buses the people out there, they generally don't do that much.
You know they're going to show up in their Ford F-150s with their semi-automatic rifles.
They're not going to waste time on bicycles with rocks.
So the point is, well they generally stay home.
But the point is...
They do, and so I'm watching one of the town hall meetings, which I'd taken a clip from earlier, and this guy gets up, who's moaning vociferously about the bad health care bill, and first he says, I pay $700 a month for my health care insurance, and I think I get the best, and I'm an American, and I get the best health care in the world, and he rips off of two or three Republican, the corniest, the worst of the Republican talking points, as if he's mocking them.
But he makes it very clear he's paying $700 a month for this great health care.
Huh, the phone.
So, and somebody comes and berates him afterwards, saying that...
Well, hold on a second.
Shit.
Oh, hello.
Hello.
John C. Devorak Escort Service.
Yeah, some opinion poll, some opinion poll.
So anyway, and I was thinking...
We should really have a way to patch your phone in when an opinion pollster calls.
We should be like both on the phone and we should really mess with our heads.
It would be great.
Anyways, but the thing is when I picked it up, I already hung it up because I'm obviously on a dialer.
The company is Opinion One.
Anyway, the phone's off the hook now.
So I'm thinking, and somebody else comes up, some other Republican, a real Republican, kind of flabbergasted about how this guy's bragging about paying $700 a month as though this is a good thing.
And she had this look on her face, and now I think back on it.
Why was it just a Democrat plant in a form of irony saying, I pay $700 a month for the greatest health care in the world, and I want to keep it that way?
Which is essentially what he said.
So I'm thinking half of this stuff is staged in one way or another, and it's not staged by the Republicans.
But we need to set something straight here, because the $700 a month or whatever it is, you probably pay $400.
I think that's what I pay somewhere in that region.
That's actually not paying for health care.
You're paying for insurance.
And the whole idea of these insurance companies sitting in between, whether they're public or private, whether it's government owned or not, the whole idea of it being like a layaway program is just wrong.
Health care in general should be somewhat affordable and there should be reasonable parameters around what a doctor can charge you, which is the way it always worked in a lot of these Gitmo nation states, which actually worked pretty well.
But now it's become this, this is what I pay for health care.
No, that's what you pay for insurance for your health care.
No, I agree with that.
Now, there's a secondary meme that has shown up.
And this is not something that's new.
But all of a sudden, I'm noticing this.
If I watch any of these town hall meetings or I listen to the news and they're clipping from them, this meme started to show up.
And I'm not sure who's behind this one.
But I get the sense that it's these organizers that aren't Republicans or Democrats, but it's the people that keep promoting health savings accounts.
Now, health savings accounts became legal.
It's like a form of an IRA. Yeah, it's tax-deductible, right?
Yes, tax-deductible.
And now I'm hearing on right-wing talk radio, left-wing talk radio, town hall meetings, out of the blue.
And this wasn't, I'd say, two weeks ago, I would have not heard this at all.
Zero.
Now I'm hearing it constantly.
References to health savings accounts over and over and over, as if somebody has pulled the...
It's a perfect way to put more money into the banks.
That could be part of it.
Yeah, it's a great financial instrument.
And, of course, when we have that money in the banks, then we can create derivatives and trade on it.
Yay!
Yay, yay, yay!
Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
Let's vote for jobs!
Yay!
Yeah, that's probably exactly it.
I'm sure that there's a derivative guy right now saying, how can we just take health savings accounts and sell a package to the Germans?
Yeah, well, but, you know, really what happened in the United States, you know, we're entrepreneurs, we like to create businesses, you know, doctors everywhere setting up these specialist clinics and, you know, all kinds of expensive equipment and, you know, the system is just, we need more than reform, you know, we just need to rethink what we're doing.
We're not there.
It is all these memes that I pay for health care.
No, it's insurance for health care.
It's in case you really, really get toasted.
It's in case you get hit by a truck.
It's in case you get cancer.
You know, in case you get a heart attack.
It's for, you know, like insurance for your home, insurance for your car.
You know, you don't call, I pay for auto service.
No, it's insurance for your automobile.
That's where it's all gone wrong.
People just don't quite understand the mechanics of it.
They've been led astray.
They've been hypnotized.
People watching three, four, five hours of television a day, completely...
I was at home alone in San Francisco for a week, and of course, what am I doing, right?
It's like, well, might as well turn on the porn.
And of course, I stop on any other low-number channel, and I'm just like, it's amazing the kind of shit that's being fed into your head.
And now we have the president who has...
And it's quite interesting how this goes.
In even the Financial Times, in the same article, I'll see, well, he has nominated Ben Bernanke to be the Federal Reserve Chairman for a second term.
And in the same article, he has reappointed him.
I'm like, well, hold on a second.
That's not how it works.
You know, you can't just reappoint him as the president.
He has to go through a whole, which of course is going to be just the, I mean, you thought Sotomayor was funny.
Now they're going to have to do another Senate approval process for Ben Bernanke.
I mean, watch that twist and turning go.
And Chris Dodd, you know, who of course is a total shill.
Oh yeah, well, you know, we're really going to grill him this time.
Bullshit, Chris or Todd Dodd.
Bullshit.
Yeah, I call it bullshit.
I mean, this is like giving the doctor who has been convicted of malpractice, like giving him a medal of honor, you know?
It's like George Bush giving all those freedom medals to the guys who screwed up Iraq.
When I was in Spain, the people in the house next to us, the guy, we had dinner with him one night and had three kids and the kids were running around.
It was kind of a laid-back family dinner.
I said, what do you do, John?
He says, well, I'm a managing director of a security company.
I'm like, oh, really?
And he's British.
He said, yeah, but not like people who protect your office building, like a security company.
I said, oh, you mean like...
A consultancy?
And he's like, he was a 20-year commanding officer in the British Army.
And, you know, and he has like a, basically he runs a Blackwater.
I was like, whoa.
That's why I was in the house next to you.
Did you figure that out?
Oh, shit.
I should have thought.
He was looking at me, wasn't he?
Yeah.
We'll make sure that there's nothing weird going on with this guy.
Hey, just some...
Hold on a second.
I should probably play this.
And now, back to real news.
Severely underreported, but interesting nonetheless.
In 1969, the then, I guess, Prime Minister of the Netherlands, Willem Drees, was given by the then Ambassador to the United States in the Netherlands a piece of moon rock.
And this, of course, was put into the Rijksmuseum, which is probably the most famous museum in the Netherlands.
It's got a lot of fantastic art.
And the Free University of Amsterdam got a hold of the Moon Rock, and they said, you know, this is really interesting.
Of course, we like talking a lot about space and what's going on above our heads, the Naval Space Command, and Of course, my opinion that, yes, although we not only have been on the moon, we probably have moon bases.
Shut up.
The actual 1969 moon landing, I believe, was done in a studio.
So the Free University of Amsterdam examines this moon rock, and after 30 minutes they say, hey, nice, it's a piece of petrified wood.
It's not an actual moon rock.
Yeah.
Well, that's interesting.
My understanding is there's only one moon rock that was ever given away to anybody.
And I can't off the top of my head, maybe somebody in the chat room would know who it is.
And I think it's an American.
And it wasn't...
I never heard of a second moon rock ever being handed to anybody.
So I think the thing never was a moon rock.
No, it wasn't.
No, it's petrified wood.
It's petrified wood.
Yeah, we got a moon rock for you, buddy.
You know what?
We should hand out No Agenda Moon Rocks.
This is another fine premium, John.
We're just banging them out.
Did we get any ringtone requests?
Um...
That doesn't sound very promising.
No.
Really?
Not a single one?
Yeah, we got a few donations.
We didn't really...
I don't think we made it clear, and I think we botched the ringtones that we had.
And near the end of the show, when we get to...
My point where I'm going to have to ask people to pony up a little bit here.
We'll set up a mechanism.
And one of the buttons isn't working for some unknown reason.
It got changed.
Yeah, I got a lot of messages about that.
So I'm going to fix that today.
But the point is that, no, we didn't get any at all.
Zip, zero.
So that idea didn't pan out.
Well, it doesn't mean...
It should.
It really should.
I think so, too.
But I think the problem is we don't have a real mechanism in place where people can get, you know, because I don't think anybody can...
You can only donate...
You can't put a message in?
When you use PayPal, you can add a message, can't you?
Yes, you can.
I don't know if people aren't seeing that box or what it is, but I haven't seen any messages so far.
We might need to set up a customized donation button.
Yeah, I'm going to set something up today.
By tonight, this is Thursday, August 27th.
On August 28th, Or tonight, sometime.
It'll be set up differently and you can go to dvorak.org slash NA or No Agenda Show, which does not even be fixed, by the way.
Is that hosed as well?
Is that hosed?
No, it's not completely hosed, but two of the buttons don't work.
But anyway, dvorak.org slash NA will be working for sure tonight.
Exactly right.
And I'll have a separate button for the...
donation with a ringtone.
It being the 27th of August, I do just want to say that it was 19 years ago today that my daughter came into the world, and that was to the soundtrack of the Beatles in my life in Livingston Hospital.
Well, congratulations to you and her.
Chris is her name.
Christina.
Yes.
Christina.
Yes.
So I want to congratulate Alex Berenson.
New York Times, who wrote a fabulous piece forwarded to me by one of our listener producers, Tim Brophy.
And I think you got it as well, John.
It's about the software that was stolen, quote, stolen from Goldman Sachs by this guy Ali Nikoff, who was working at Goldman Sachs.
And it really goes into what this software does.
In fact, and this of course is why Goldman Sachs is making billions of dollars in profit, this high-frequency trading actually is a complete market manipulation.
He explains it in pretty simple language.
You'll find the link to the article in the show notes at NoAgendaShow.com or at Curry.com or Dvorak.org slash blog.
And, in fact, he left Goldman Sachs because he was only making $750,000 a year as a software programmer.
Geeks pay attention.
He left because he was offered a $1.2 million a year job at Teza Technologies.
And what it does is, this software, which is probably written in some really low-level machine code or something.
COBOL, probably.
LAUGHTER Binary Cobalt.
Binary Cobalt.
And so it bundles up trades before they actually hit the open market.
And so they're making pennies, exactly what we talked about many weeks ago on the show, and they're able to make pennies on these trades even before it hits the open market systems.
And, of course, the travesty of all of this is that Goldman Sachs, through the TARP, or maybe it's the TELF, I think it's the TARP, is actually able to borrow hundreds of millions of dollars a day for free, for free, mind you, from us, from the Treasury, in fact, to then go and make these trades.
So they have no risk, no risk at all, and they're making billions of dollars through market manipulation, and it's right here in black and white in the New York Times.
That's amazing.
I've always thought that the market, once the computerized trading thing took place, and especially with computerized systems like NASDAQ, that there had to be a way to deconstruct the mechanism, reverse engineer it in such a way that you could manipulate it.
With another computer program, if you had enough money to do it, and that's what Goldman Sachs had when they gave, you know, essentially they've always had, because they're one of the biggest.
But you have to be pretty big to do this.
Well, you've got to have some major, major hardware.
In fact, I know one of these guys, and I remember he was kind of a, not really a buddy, because he was kind of weird, but we met at the Ben Cohen's shawarma restaurant one night, and we got to talking.
You know, his spare time, he was like a, His hobby was pole vaulting and he was this bald head, which of course works perfectly with Goldman Sachs type guys because they seem to be kind of balding.
It's like a club.
And what he would do literally is work on these incredibly sophisticated yet very simplistic, very fast programs and all it was was just how fast can we execute trades?
If you're really good at your binary COBOL, then there's quite a lot of dough for you to be made out there.
And which brings me right back to the assassination of that software programmer who worked at the Gates Law Firm.
I'm telling you.
I'm telling you.
These guys are on to it.
They don't want the story to come out.
The FBI... I mean, if someone steals something from your company, I'm reading this book, The Informant.
I'm almost done with it.
And the FBI takes months, months, sometimes years before they go and arrest anybody.
No, when it comes to Goldman Sachs and someone took their market manipulation code, they arrest the guy within one day.
One day the FBI is like, oh, stop!
We've got to arrest you.
Yeah.
This is not just some crackpot theory.
This is a proof of a crime.
Yeah, except the crime was he took the code.
Yeah, but how did they know?
Because Goldman Sachs picks up the red phone.
No, I'm just saying.
Yeah, exactly.
How did they investigate it?
They just assumed he took the code.
Yeah, they didn't have any time to investigate anything.
They just picked up the red phone.
Did he have a copy of a printout of the code, or was it in his head, or was it on a thumb drive?
No, he uploaded it to some open server somewhere.
Probably.
In Europe, yeah.
Probably...
I mean, it could be just having access to the backup stuff after you quit the company is stealing the code.
And meanwhile, we're led to believe that Bernie Madoff was duping his clients with a copy of Windows 95 and a dot matrix printer.
By the way, New York Post reporting that he has cancer and is dying.
Uh-huh.
I feel bad for people with cancer.
My mom died of lung cancer.
But all of a sudden, oh yeah, he's taking 20 pills a day.
He talks about it all the time.
Of course, it's not the heart attack we thought, John.
It'll be cancer.
That's what he's going to die of.
Well, there are ways of...
Of injecting people with certain chemicals that make them look dead, and then you wheel them out.
I mean, you see it in the movies, and it's probably over-dramatized, and it's probably more dangerous than you'd think.
But, you know, I mean, you think this guy had to have a...
Look, this guy walked off with over $60 billion.
You know, more money than Bill Gates.
Which we haven't found, by the way.
Which they haven't found.
He had to have an escape plan.
Oh, yeah.
I mean, because he obviously walked right into the whole thing, turned himself in.
I mean, you'd think that if he maybe would disappear to, you know, some island someplace where there was extradition proof, moved to Paraguay, I think you can get this.
Yes, Paraguay, with the Bush family.
I think that's extradition proof.
And there's a bunch of things you could do, and you could live a good life there.
I mean, you're going to live a better life in Paraguay.
It's definitely going to eat better than you're going to in the prison in North Carolina.
Yeah.
So he'll die of cancer very soon.
Something's going to happen.
It'll be very, very sad, and they'll bring the box out, and he'll slip out the back, Jack.
That's my guess.
Because otherwise it makes no sense.
A guy like that, who dreamed of this scheme and can carry it to such an extreme, has to have an exit strategy.
And I think the $60 billion is just the tip of the iceberg.
I think it was involved in a lot more.
He set up NASDAQ. He was the founding dude of NASDAQ. So he was involved in all kinds of trickery.
Oh yeah, no, no.
It was a dot matrix printer with Windows 95, and he went and made up these accounts.
Right.
How stupid do they think we are?
Apparently.
Yeah, quite stupid.
Very.
The Dutch prince, you remember that the royal Dutch prince had sued the Associated Press, said, you can no longer make pictures available of my family?
Yeah.
So I don't believe there's been any verdict yet in that case, but this was clearly a case of...
Don't look over here.
Nothing to see here.
The prince has been building a house in Mozambique, which is kind of the new Paraguay.
It's the Paraguay for royals.
And he pulled a fast one, which has been all over the news here.
He no longer owns the house.
He put the house into a new structure of a foundation.
And of course, he was kind of smart to do that because this development has been nothing but one big wasp's nest of bribery.
Someone's been killed on the premises.
There's all this amazing shit going on.
And he's like, maybe I should put the house into a foundation.
No, no, we're going to help poor people with this house.
The gall.
If you're wondering why our economy has gotten a little bit better, because, you know, of course, even though the long-term prospects are horrible and that news has been snowed under by the death of Ted Kennedy, And I'm actually deducing this from reading about what happened in Germany.
The German economy, we were quite amazed that it actually grew.
And I kind of figured it out, a number of reasons, but the one that makes the most sense, why the U.S. economy has not...
That deteriorated as quickly, it's still declining, mind you, but not as quickly as expected, is of course the Cash for Clunkers program, John.
Because so much money now, I think $3 billion has been pumped into the economy directly with real cold, hard paper.
It's like a paper play.
And up next, Cash for Refrigerators.
Yeah, I know.
I saw that one.
In fact, Horowitz and I talked about it.
Oh, really?
Cash for appliances.
He thinks that maybe they'll be going for cash for sofas.
How about cash for hair extensions?
Cash for shrubbery.
I mean, it's like, okay, fine.
They're going to do like half a billion dollars, I think?
Yeah.
Cash for refrigerator?
Is this coming from our original?
I think you're missing the point.
This is all for the environment.
Oh, right.
We're going to get some of these old appliances off the grid.
Yeah, how stupid am I? It's about being green.
So the news, of course, in the United Kingdom has been non-stop about...
And it was kind of fun to pick up a Financial Times at Schiphol Airport.
I flew over to London to hang out with Christina for a bit.
Actually, I took your advice, John.
I took the Heathrow Express into town instead of taking a cab, which was fabulous.
I got a first-class ticket.
It's great.
They give you CNN indoctrination and free financial times.
Completely different edition.
Much more interesting because it had none of all the Lockerbie stuff in the international version.
And as you already predicted, Gordon Brown taking a lot of heat and he finally came out and said something.
He finally said, oh, I was disgusted by the hero's welcome that whatever the guy's name is, the suspected bomber received upon coming home.
But of course, they've all distilled it here and said, well, it's going to be quite embarrassing when British Petroleum announces the big deal they have with Libya, which is on its way.
Apparently, the deal has already been cut.
Oops.
Yeah, so everyone knows exactly what this was about.
And I've been receiving lots of emails about, you know, that kind of debunk this guy as being the actual guilty person, you know, the...
Apparently, it had to do with someone else who was on the plane, and the detonation device, which was found 25 miles from the crash site, was this exact same detonation device used by the CIA and some other scam they pulled off.
It doesn't make much sense to dredge up all this stuff.
Was it 25 years later?
Yeah, no, it's like the Kennedy assassination.
Yeah, it's like no one cares.
There's other things to do.
But the fact of the matter was this guy was found guilty and blamed, and so why did he only get eight years?
Well, the thing that everyone's really pissed off about is that by being let free, he withdrew his appeal.
And there was all kinds of evidence that was set to be brought into the open, which people really wanted to hear about.
Right.
And so that was pretty much squash.
Well, that would be the real conspiracy angle, not the deal for the oil.
Possible.
So let's take a look at it from this perspective.
The guy's got the goods on who really did it.
Let's say it's the CIA. So all of a sudden we've got to get this guy back out of the country and make him drop this appeal.
So what are we going to do?
I have an idea.
Let's do a deal with Libya's oil and British patrol and make it look like that's the reason they did it and then get him out nothing to see here kind of a move.
That's possible.
And then let Gordon Brown try to dig himself out of it.
Well, Brown's going to eat crap for this day, they'll say.
Yeah, but Brown wasn't going to win anyway.
So Brown is going to just, you know, give him a big pile of money and he can go golf and do something else.
Brown's already toast.
He's already toast.
There's only one flaw with that theory, is that I believe the CIA, that President Obama and his administration do not control the CIA. I think the CIA is actually out of control right now.
I think they are completely loyal to Bush, maybe even Bush-Clinton, or the whole...
You know, the whole gang over there on the Bush-Clinton side.
And I believe this is why Obama has now set up a new team, which reports only to him, outside of the CIA. Can you believe it?
How crazy does it have to get?
Now we have the CIA-A2, and they're going to be the only ones allowed to interrogate the suspected terrorists.
This stinks.
This really, really smells like poop.
It stinks.
Don't you think?
I mean, what the hell is the CIA for?
I don't see how that has anything to do with my theory.
Well, no, because your theory is that all these things by the CIA are going to be uncovered, and therefore they came up with this scam.
But I don't think that Brown slash Obama, all on the same side, all run by the same gangsters, I don't think it behooves them to protect the CIA. That's my point.
I think if they could blow open the CIA, if they could expose it...
I think it's too risky.
No.
No, it's too risky.
For one thing, you can get killed.
Oh yeah, that's right.
Two to the head.
Hey, let's talk about some spaceships.
I got one.
Here's one.
This blew me away.
11,000...
Sorry?
Are you with me?
Yeah.
11,000 United States veterans...
Who had colonoscopies at the U.S. Veterans Affairs Hospitals may have been exposed to hepatitis B, hepatitis C, and HIV. Apparently, in this Miami VA hospital, 11,000 veterans who had colonoscopies were treated or the colonoscopies were done with equipment.
That's an endoscopy?
Endoscopy?
Yeah, that device.
The tube they show up your ass.
Instead of being sterilized, it was just rinsed off.
Oh, God.
I mean, not only is that dangerous, that's just disgusting.
Hey, nurse, nurse, can you rinse this off?
She grabs it, sniffs it, rinses it, sniffs it, rinses it, sniffs it.
So there's a couple of guys who contracted AIDS. Eight so far.
Twelve have tested for hepatitis B, 37 for hepatitis C, because they only rinsed the anal probe.
Well, wait, isn't this a government health care system we're talking about?
Absolutely.
There you go.
That'll do it for you.
That link will be in the show notes.
That could kind of freak me out, man.
Yeah, well, if you were going to get one of those tests, I think it would.
So, anyway, back to the CIA. I think the jury's still out on whether they killed Kennedy.
And then killed Bobby.
Well, it didn't kill, but then they pushed what's-his-name off the bridge, and next thing you know, the Kennedys are done.
Yeah.
Now, here's a problem that I have.
Not that I'm going to take the crackpot side of things, but I have a clip that I want to play that was shown on Nova Science Now, which has this goofy guy who's the host.
Let me guess, this is the rat memory clip?
Yeah, the rat memory clip.
So they're teaching this rat.
They got a rat wired up and they have this moving platter.
And so the rat's walking around and when there's one spot on the platter, if he gets near it, he gets a jolt.
And so the platter keeps moving around and moving around.
Oh, they fuck with him.
So the spot changes?
Well, it's moving.
It's a moving platter.
So if he stands still, he's going to be pushed into this area where he gets the jolt.
So he keeps walking away from this area as the platter keeps moving around.
He learns to avoid this area, and he learns quite well.
But then they pull a fast one on the rat, but I found it very disturbing, this whole segment which you're going to play right now.
He's walking away.
So when the rat stays away from a particular area, we can imagine that he has remembered where he was shot.
Then, Fenton injects the rat's hippocampus with a chemical called Zip, known to undo the effect of PKM Zeta.
And what we observed, which was quite remarkable, was the rat acted as though it had forgotten completely where the shock zone was.
And it explored the arena as if it was in the arena for the first time.
Just got shocked.
Yet, the rat could learn once again to avoid the shock zone.
So we hadn't damaged the rat's brain.
We hadn't broken its ability to learn anything.
What we had simply done was specifically erased the memory for that shock zone.
Oh boy.
So I guess we can relate this to the swine flu vaccination, huh?
You know, there is something...
Well, they injected this directly at some spot, although I'm sure you could make a...
somewhere for something to attack this area.
But the thing that disturbed me about this was the matter-of-fact way that they did it.
And this chemical called Zip, they never really said what this stuff is.
What is that stuff?
I don't know, but it's obviously been known to exist because they said they already knew that it attacked this...
They found a chemical that had to do with short-term memory.
They found that this chemical attacks this other chemical and then erases the short-term memory of the rat, but the rat's perfectly normal except for the fact that this memory of this shock zone had disappeared and he had to relearn it.
I found this to be extremely disconcerting.
Well, the first link in Google talks about this very study, and it keeps talking about the zip.
This is from 2007, about the zip chemical, ZIP. But this also doesn't tell me what this is.
Of course, this is all part of the mind control studies the CIA has been doing for years.
What the hell is that zip stuff?
How do we get some of it?
I can use it.
After this show, I can use them myself.
It'll be interesting, though.
What is Zip?
Here, sciencemag.org.
Rapid erasure of long-term memory associations in the cortex by an inhibitor of PKM. And then it has a symbol.
PKM. Hmm.
Here we go.
Ah.
The components of the remodeled...
Synaptic machinery and how they sustain the new synaptic or cell-wide configuration over time are yet to be elucidated.
In the rat cortex, long-term associative memories vanish rapidly after local application of an inhibitor of the protein Kinas-C isoform.
I know you butchered whatever it was, but you can put it in the show notes.
Go ahead.
K-I-N-A-S-E. Canase C isoform protein canase M zeta.
So that's what this zip stuff is.
We should be able to get some of that.
I don't know what we're going to do with it.
I got some ideas.
Honey, honey, there were no hookers and blow.
It didn't happen.
Trust me.
Just take your flu shot, baby.
Not a problem.
So anyway, I found that to be distressing.
No one ever talks about this stuff.
They just kind of throw it out.
Look what happened.
He lost his memory.
Ha ha.
And it was like, I don't know what the point of the story was.
Not to prepare you.
We're getting very, very close now.
September, October is when the vaccinations are supposed to start.
The latest news here in the real Gitmo Nation is they're not going to have enough crap to do.
Gitmo Nation OG. They're going to have to...
OG standing for Original...
Original Gangster.
Original Gitmo.
Pitching a gangster.
They're going to have to roll out, now they say, the adjuvant-based flu shot in a two-shot deal at the same time they have the regular seasonal flu shot, meaning there's going to be a three-shot for kids who don't like shots anyway.
You can see this becoming a fiasco.
I don't think they're going to do that.
I think they're going to just put it off until next year.
They're going to create another, you know, They're going to have to rejigger with the flu virus itself because they've already done that, according to some of these reports.
Jigger it up a little bit so it actually does kill a few people.
And then try this scam again.
Actually, we're going to reboot.
It wouldn't be a bad idea, John, because...
Of course, I believe that there's an actual plan out there to eliminate people.
But on the other hand, if you just look at the finances of it, I believe that all the pharmaceutical companies, they're going to get paid regardless.
All the shots have been ordered, so it's just going to be written off.
And you may be right.
It's like we'll have 10, 20, 30, maybe 400 people die.
By the way, according to the numbers from the CDC, Who no longer actually track cases of swine flu?
According to their numbers published, 500 people in the United States have died of swine flu.
According to their numbers.
I'm sorry, I didn't see the news report.
500 have died of swine flu in the United States.
And most of those people were sick to begin with.
But I've only heard of one!
Where did all these other, where did these 500 come from?
And now they're just doing these aggregated numbers.
It's crap.
Play a little bit of music for you, everybody, here on No Agenda.
The CDC says more than one million Americans are already infected.
Perfectly safe for children to get vaccinated.
The swine flu's coming back like a viral attack.
It's like seven to six, you gotta cover your back.
But not get the vaccine, don't give in the back.
Because those medical quacks are making money off that.
You gotta see this video, it's in the show notes.
I love when the black community gets onto this stuff.
Don't inject me, the swine flu vaccine song.
Well, yes, of course, the actual news is that swine flu may infect half of the U.S. population this year.
Yeah, it's called the flu, okay?
Sure, it happens.
It happens.
It's a Bloomberg report, by the way.
1.8 million patients in the U.S. will be hospitalized, filling intensive care units to capacity and causing severe disruptions during a fall resurgence.
Scientific advisors to the White House have warned.
Swine flu.
Swine flu.
It's going to kill you.
So you should make that into it.
Somebody should take that clip and do something with it.
What's my last clips I have?
Yeah, how are we doing on time?
We've got 15 minutes or so.
You have Alaska Town Hall and Lionfish.
Oh, the Alaskan town hall is kind of interesting.
This is a town hall meeting where some nurse who's shaken like a leaf.
Oh, not a nurse, but a doctor.
Shaken like a leaf.
And this was done by that senator from Alaska who's also a Republican and seems to be Sarah Palin's enemy and also seems to have some brains.
The female senator from Alaska.
Forget it.
So anyway, I'm not a big Sarah Palin fan anymore.
So I never was, actually.
I thought she was on paper.
She looked like a good candidate.
Neither am I, but I still feel that the way she was treated by the press was anti-feminist.
It was sexist, sexist, ageist to a certain degree, and completely just...
And by the way, those of you sitting at home listening to this, screw you too.
People who are saying, I don't care for the woman's politics.
I don't give a crap.
I do care about how you talk about women in general.
And the jokes that are made on every single news channel, from Fox News to...
Hold on one second, John.
Hold on.
Hey, so I guess I'm not the only one who gets phone calls during the show.
Well, by the way, while Adam's out talking to us on the phone, I want to mention to people that we do need your support.
NoagendaShow.com, you can donate there, or Dvorak.org.
We did very poorly, and I knew the reason why, because we didn't really push the donations last Sunday, and we usually don't on Sunday.
But I would hope that we do a little better because this is, again, a slow week.
And if you think about what we're delivering here, which is three hours a week of entertaining news and information that makes you think a little bit, three hours a week, you pay $20 to go to the theater, and you don't get as much out of it as we deliver it week and you don't get as much out of it as we deliver it week And we're trying to expand it another hour and a half or another hour with a Tuesday show, but we aren't going to do it unless we have the kind of steady income that's necessary.
And I hope that some people out there who have been listening to the show over and over and over again, as far as they're concerned, we're just another PBS operation begging for money.
And you don't want to give us anything, which is, you know, and I don't have a problem with people who are students or people who want to volunteer some help, you know, website development or pass the word along or give out copies of the show, whatever you want to do.
John, thank you so much for doing that.
That was actually my daughter who called.
She just landed and I hadn't spoken to her.
I'd left a voicemail message and I just wanted to say happy birthday to her.
So thank you for covering.
Dvorak.org slash Anna A. Alright, do we get to the...
See, do we get to the town hall or are we going to go straight into begging for money?
No, I just did the begging for money, so you don't have to.
Excellent.
Although it would help if you begged for money once in a while.
So let's go to the town hall.
And the only reason I'm playing this, and it should have been played earlier in the show, it's just some doctor who has a, just kind of a complaint about, she's a general practitioner and she's complaining about how there's a dying breed and this new bill's not going to help things.
Perfect.
Hi, my name is Dr.
Ilona Farr.
I'm a family practice doc here in town, and I'm here representing 16 family practice docs, which is 20% of the family practice docs in Anchorage.
We went from 180 down to 75 family practice doctors because of low Medicare reimbursement rates.
Our call group uniformly said that if the bill that is currently proposed are bills, we would all be out of business by 2014.
This is a very serious problem as we all enjoy seeing our patients.
Right now, for a $115 office visit, I am paid $40 by Medicare and $7 by the secondary insurance.
UnitedHealthcare takes $400 for secondary insurance a month.
They made $3 billion last year.
What we need to do is do health savings accounts and allow our seniors to take $300 that they are paying right now to the secondary insurance, put it in a health savings plan so they can pay us, so they can pay for hearing aids, so they can pay for other medical devices without a bunch of government bureaucracy.
And people should be allowed from birth to death.
Yeah.
To do health savings accounts.
Yeah, you know, John, I think that might actually be, and of course we should have played this much earlier in the show, you're right, but I think that might be an interesting option to see that, you know, revived.
It's not a bad idea to teach people how to, oh, I know it's anti-American to say this, but to save, save money.
We've fallen into this reverse savings called credit, you know, where my mom used to call it the never-never.
Never-never what?
Like you never-never pay it off if you borrow money.
I never do.
She said, hey, did you buy that car on the never-never?
And, you know, it's saving money.
Of course, it's anti-American.
It screws up our economy.
But maybe that's a good way to go through it.
I'm not quite sure what happened to the dollar if we saved our money.
You know, how...
Well, the economy is designed for cash flow.
So saving our money is not, many economists will say is a bad idea.
It was a good idea in the 20s.
It was maybe a good idea in the 1860s.
But of course, that's what's happening right now is people are saving their money.
They're keeping it in their pocket.
They don't want to save it because the future is too unsure.
That's why you get deflation, which I'm also not against.
Shit, stuff is getting cheaper.
Yay!
Yeah, well, deflation is also seen as a bad thing.
There goes my nomination for Federal Reserve Chairman.
Damn.
Who?
Me.
Mine.
You.
Yeah, I would be really good.
Back to the gold standard.
Yeah, you'd be at least a humorous.
And I look better than Ben Bernanke.
And I'll tell you, Bernanke doesn't seem like a very funny guy.
He does not.
He really doesn't.
He wears funky shirts, though.
Designer shirts.
You see that where the collar has some Yves Saint Laurent logo on it?
Tone it down, Ben.
Yeah, wear a white shirt.
Yeah, tone it down, dude.
And can we have a president and officials who wear ties again?
I just think it's proper.
Well, now you mention it.
I haven't picked up on that, but you're right.
Obama's roaming around with polo shirts on.
Well, that's okay in a certain setting, but I see Bernanke without a tie.
I see Obama without a tie next to him.
Since when did the tie become not fashionable anymore?
Silicon Valley.
Somebody said to me once, hey, you're the last guy in Silicon Valley who still wears a tie.
Yeah.
I think it was you.
Yeah.
How about the lionfish clip?
No, we'll save that for Sunday.
We'll never use it.
Oh, Sunday, by the way, I think we may have to start a little bit later because Christina is doing a fashion show.
She's on the runway, and it starts at 8.30 a.m.
Gitmo Nation West time.
So if we could start probably around 10 maybe instead of 9.00.
Yeah, that's fine.
Now, if she's going to be doing that, you're going to bring the camera and you're going to turn on the movie mode and make a movie?
I don't have to do that because this thing is going to be covered by the press like nobody else's business.
Yeah, but they always...
I know I've seen this...
You know, this reminds me, by the way, if I'm going to have my last gripe of the day.
Oh, hold on a second.
Ah, shit.
Where is...
I'm sorry, John.
I was a little...
You don't have the clip.
There you go.
So I have the notes downstairs, unfortunately, so I don't have them handy.
And that was it.
Great, John.
Thanks.
Loved it.
Maybe I'll bring it up on the Sunday show with the exact details.
But here's the deal.
So I'm watching the Miss Universe thing, the Donald Trump show.
Oh, jeez.
Did I miss it again?
Ah, crap.
It was the worst produced thing ever.
The cameras were jerky, and they were all over the place, and they were doing stuff that was from the 70s, the way they were handling the shots, and they never showed a girl's butt, by the way.
Oh, bad.
Very bad.
They would have the girl walking out in a bathing suit.
I swear to God, anyone go find a tape of this, they'll see the same thing.
The girl comes out walking out in a bathing suit.
They got a front shot of her coming out, bang, da-ding, da-ding.
Then she flips a turn around, and then they, boom, they cut to a shot of her legs.
No ass shots, huh?
And she walks back.
No, and a side shot of her legs.
A side shot of her legs.
Well, Walking back, and then they, boom, they make another cut to her flipping back around, and now it's kind of a head and shoulder shot.
So are you sure it just wasn't a really bad direction?
They just missed it every single time?
No, it was every single time, exact same sequence.
And I realize they weren't showing the girl.
So you never got to see if the girl had a big, you know, I mean, you're going to look at the caboose, right?
I mean, these girls are walking back.
You want to see if they got big flabby buns or whatever you want to look at.
Yeah, it's an essential part.
It's an essential part of the whole deal.
Of the swimsuit thing, for sure.
So you don't know, ma.
But anyway, they had the same exact phenomenon that people have to be aware of with these, which I think are rigged.
And I don't think you have to do any more rigging than the following simple act.
You have to always remember that the last thing in the series of events or any sort of series, the last thing is always given the highest ratings, the highest numbers.
It's just the way it is.
People always hold back, hold back, and then they let their numbers go up at the end.
So if you have ten girls come out, And if they were exactly the same person in some way, or proven to be the same in some, you know, you can do a double-blind study, which you can't.
The last girl will always get the highest score, one of the last two.
They'll always get the highest score, and the girls at the beginning always get the lowest score.
So in this instance, we had a beautiful girl that came, that was the number two in the sequence from Iceland.
She was gorgeous.
She was broke, but she was gorgeous.
Sorry?
She was broke.
This girl wasn't broke, I can assure you.
But I get the joke.
But anyway, as soon as I saw the first three or four, I said, these girls can't win because they're at the beginning of the sequence.
And so this is just bogus.
And this poor girl from Iceland who is really pretty.
You know, she was eliminated rather quickly.
But then near the end, the last three, I figure one of those three is going to be the winner.
And they always put Miss USA as not last, but always second to last in most of these competitions because that will keep her in.
And she was a kind of a perky, she was a good looking woman.
Yeah, of course, because the longer you watch these women, you know, the more turned on you get.
I mean, that's obvious.
So anyway, so they, right.
So Miss USA comes out second to last.
And then the last one who comes out is Miss, who I thought was one of the prettiest women in terms of just being elegant looking.
It was Miss Venezuela.
There was probably about five that were knockouts, and when they were getting to the last of them, I said, and then the last one of the 15 is, and I said, I can't believe they're not going to put Miss Venezuela up there.
Boom, Miss Venezuela, the last one.
Who do you think won the competition?
Miss Venezuela?
Absolutely.
So, John, I would like to thank you for proving my theory that we spent ten times much more time actually complaining about the Miss Universe competition than we did about rigged voting machines for the presidential elections.
I appreciate it.
I really appreciate that.
You're welcome.
I try to keep this show topical.
About Iceland, by the way, I just wanted to mention one thing.
Remember that the Icelansky Bank went belly up, and it was an internet, like an online bank that had billions of...
Euros, kroner, whatever, whatever they use, dollars, whatever they're using.
A lot of the money from the UK and the Netherlands.
And the money was from the UK, a lot of it was council money, so municipalities who would invest their money because they had some outrageous rate, like 8% or 9%, something really high.
And so the governments jumped in when the bank went belly up.
They returned a third of the money to the Dutch and UK investors.
And now they have kind of like a fait accompli that they have given Iceland saying, okay, you've got to repay this money back within, I think it's like 10 years or whatever.
If not, you won't get any support from the IMF, which of course the country desperately needs, even though it's like 300,000 people who live there.
The amount of money they have to pay back is 80% of their entire gross national product per year.
Per year?
Per year.
So there's no way.
There's no way they can ever pay it back.
It's the super never-never.
So they're getting completely squeezed.
And, of course, the 300,000 inhabitants are up in arms.
They're like, you know, shit no.
Yeah.
Why do we have to pay for it?
Why do the people have to pay for this crappy-ass bank, who, by the way, was advised through the consultancy of, amongst others, Peter Orszag, who was in charge of the government of the United States' budget?
Good work, Peter.
Yeah, way to go, dude.
Rockin'.
Well, you know, maybe there's a reason for it.
We wanted to bankrupt Iceland.
Yeah.
You know, they've got some terrific wool in Iceland.
By the way, anybody who goes to Iceland, you know, if you're taking a trip to Europe, if you can take a stop over in Reykjavik like a couple of hours, the airport wool store is probably the best in the country.
I was going to transition into saying if you want your money well taken care of, consider a donation to this program.
Because look at, you know, you might spend 50 bucks on wool.
In Iceland, which would probably cost you a lot more because you've got to get there, you've got to get a hotel to stay overnight.
Or you could just donate some money to this show and maybe get a third show a week out of it.
You know, like I'd quit my day job and just do this all the time.
I'd bring back Daily Source Code if we could actually make a living out of this.
I enjoy it so much.
You do?
I really do.
It's the highlight of my week.
Twice a week.
I love it, John.
I love you, man.
People should go to NoAgenda or NoAgendaShow.com or Dvorak.org slash NA. I'll get the buttons fixed today and I'll add some other stuff on there and we can...
And actually, it's really good for your kids.
If you want to teach your kids about economics...
Besides, of course, allowing them to listen to this show, and lots of educators are doing this now.
We get emails from professors and high school teachers all the time who are turning their kids on to this very show, and we highly appreciate it.
But teach them the magic of layaway, something that existed when I was a kid.
You wanted that bike.
You wanted the pair of jeans.
You wanted the dress.
And you went to the store and said, hey man, could I really have that?
They'd put it away on layaway for you.
And every week you'd bring your money and you'd save it up.
And then after like 10 weeks, then you'd actually, you would get the product.
And it was very exciting.
It was a fantastic reward and you felt really good about yourself.
Of course, we were like stealing money from all over the place to pay off the layaway.
But still, it teaches your kid something.
So why not teach your kid something?
How to become a No Agenda Knight through our Layaway program, which is only $50 a month.
And before you know it, your kid will have a piece of petrified wood with the label Moonrock.
Petrified.
We've got to find a source of petrified wood.
That should be easy, man.
I think there's someone in my backyard, as a matter of fact.
I think you should look between your legs.
Where's the rimshot?
Where's the rimshot when I need it?
Alright, so no agenda.
We'll start a little bit later on Sunday.
I should have some interesting stories to tell.
About what?
What's the tease?
I'll have interesting stories to tell.
That's enough tease right there, my friend.
That's it?
That's it.
We're talking about lionfish for sure.
Yes, and petrified wood.
Coming to you from the 17th Century Canal House Crackpot Command Center located in the heart of Gitmo Nation East in Amsterdam, I'm Adam Curry.
And looking at the noagendashow.com and dvorak.org slash na as you should all do later.
I'm in northern Silicon Valley.
I'm John C. Dvorak.
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