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44: Probably a Super Delegate

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	It's time once again for that transcontinental freight train express that we know as Gitmo Nation.
	Coming to you from Gitmo Nation, east in the United Kingdom, my name is Adam Curry.
	And I'm John C. DeVorek from Gitmo Nation West, also known as Silicon Valley North.
	The place that doesn't really exist.
	Doesn't.
	Yeah.
	Hey John, how you doing?
	Not bad.
	So you know the news, right?
	Biden?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, interesting.
	A very interesting choice, relevant to the European Union, actually.
	Oh, tell me why.
	He, Joe Biden, suggested, find out when, earlier this week, I think, that the U.S. send $1 billion in aid to Georgia.
	Yeah, I find that interesting because, if I'm not mistaken, at the beginning of the fiasco...
	Our friend Barack was kind of on the Russian side of the argument, which is that Georgia was...
	With a backup with a name like Brzezinski, what do you expect?
	You just stunned me with that one.
	Sorry.
	You didn't like it?
	Never mind.
	Stopped me in my tracks.
	I'm sorry.
	I'll shut up.
	We still got to get into it here.
	Okay.
	I'm looking to see what Barack said.
	So he said, you know, he was like, kind of seemed to be, and then he backed off really quick because, you know, it wasn't the national policy to take that position.
	And then this guy Biden, you know, he's totally, you know, into that Georgian president, I guess.
	I don't know.
	Maybe he wants a street named after him.
	I have no idea.
	I think you can do with a lot less.
	It doesn't take a billion to get a street or an airport named after you're in Georgia these days.
	No, probably not.
	I was looking to see what it was.
	Yeah, but he suggested a billion dollars.
	Yeah, well...
	What do you know about Biden?
	I mean, I'd love to hear your thoughts, your analysis.
	Well, curiously.
	Ah, you are an expert, of course, in Joe Bidenism.
	Yeah, well, of course, neither one of us know much of anything.
	We don't know nothing about anything.
	But we do listen to talk radio.
	Yes.
	And...
	Rush Limbaugh went after Biden last week sometime around.
	I think it was Thursday, Wednesday, Thursday, or Friday, whatever.
	And by playing some of his old advertisements for his 1988 campaign, where Biden was, you know, he keeps trying to be the president.
	But in 1988, he apparently had phonied up his academic resume recently.
	And...
	And then he got busted for it.
	And then it was like, I mean, I was rolling my eyes.
	I remember when it happened.
	You know, he said he had this degree.
	And, you know, he said he had a couple extra degrees he didn't have.
	He made stuff up.
	And so he was discredited.
	You know, it was like, what a bonehead.
	I said, well, it's the end of this guy.
	He'll never be back in politics.
	In fact, I was shocked he was re-elected.
	I mean, how do you stand there and just bowl-faced lie about your credentials and still get re-elected?
	That is pretty amazing.
	Only in America, actually.
	Well, it happens apparently a lot.
	So everybody just laughed it off, I guess.
	But what Limbaugh was doing wasn't harping on that.
	I'm harping on it.
	But he was harping on the fact that all of his ads in 88 were around the theme.
	That the office of the president is not a training ground.
	It's not the minor leagues.
	You should have a lot of experience.
	You shouldn't be some joker who just showed up yesterday.
	Right, which is why Barack Obama qualifies.
	Right.
	It's so funny.
	So I figure they're going to throw this...
	Back in his face.
	Back in his face, yeah.
	Here's some quotes.
	This is before he was announced as the candidate for VP. I left the country convinced that this is about Georgia.
	What was he doing in Georgia?
	Anyway, I left the country convinced that Russians' invasion of Georgia may be the one of the most significant events to occur in Europe since the end of communism.
	What?
	Yeah, this is a quote.
	This is on Politico.
	When Congress reconvenes, I intend to work with the administration to seek congressional approval for $1 billion in emergency assistance for Georgia, with a substantial down payment on that aid to be included in Congress' next supplemental spending bill.
	Hmm.
	Interesting.
	Well, you know, this is just going to be...
	Now, I'm guessing...
	I could be wrong...
	But I'm guessing that the left in this country, which is the big supporters of Obama, and the youth, and the bloggers, are pretty much, you know, the sides have been taken on this Georgia-Russia thing, in terms of, like, who started it, who's responsible, yeah.
	Right, whose fault is it, blah, blah, blah, back and forth.
	And I'm guessing that they are probably siding a bit with Russia.
	And they're not going to like this Biden guy.
	Really?
	Well, no, certainly not if he continues.
	Well, this was before he was announced as the candidate.
	It's kind of interesting to see across the board who's involved with whom.
	So we've got Obama has Brzezinski.
	And Hillary Clinton has Lady Baron de Rothschild, who now, by the way, is going by her maiden name, Forrester, which kind of makes sense.
	But then there was talk of David Rockefeller donated to McCain's campaign.
	Hmm.
	Which is perhaps being questioned if it was legal or not.
	But it's like they've got all the bases covered.
	Yeah, right.
	Everyone's hooked up to the wagon.
	and doesn't matter what happens now, we're good to go, everybody.
	Everybody's got some luck on somebody.
	That's right, right.
	Oh, and boy, did we nail it last week, John, with the Clinton body count.
	Yeah, now we got a couple more.
	Now we have representative Tubbs, yeah.
	Yeah, dead.
	Yes.
	But then again, we nailed the fact that this is going on, and now, of course, the election's coming up, and there's a bunch of other flimflammery, fluxum type of thing happening, including that crazy lawsuit, which we're going to talk about, I'm sure.
	Yeah.
	Now, did we talk about Tubbs?
	No, Tubbs happened after we passed the license show, right?
	No, no, she died just a few days ago.
	A few days later, yeah.
	Here's what bothered me about that.
	First of all, man, what a career.
	I'd never heard of her before, but she really was quite a powerhouse from just the record that I'm reading.
	But here's where it gets kind of weird.
	So here's the series of events.
	Hold on, let me just put my tinfoil hat on for a second.
	Here's the series of events.
	So the cops pull her over.
	This is, was it Ohio, I think?
	I don't know.
	The cops pull her over.
	Well, they see a car driving at high speed erratically.
	Wait, wait, wait.
	Before you tell the story, I think we should back people up on what we're thinking, which is that either Clinton's boys or Obama's gangsters from Chicago are killing these people.
	To try to influence the...
	The superdelegate count, because they're both superdelegates.
	Right.
	We have two dead superdelegates.
	Here's the plot.
	Two dead superdelegates.
	One killed by gunfire two weeks ago in Arkansas, leader of the Arkansas Democratic Party.
	Right, and the perpetrator shot himself.
	And he killed himself, yeah.
	Oh, by the way, and this was, oh, I forget his name, Guantri, I want to say.
	His name escapes me for a moment.
	He had recently switched from supporting Hillary Clinton to Barack Obama.
	He switched in June, I think, end of June.
	And so now we have Representative Tubbs, who also was a...
	In fact, she was a...
	I think she was a chairwoman for something for Hillary Clinton.
	Right.
	And she also switched her public superdelegate vote to support Barack Obama in July.
	Right.
	But we don't know, neither one of us know, whether or not they had...
	It somehow indicated they were going to switch back, and that may be the reason for them being killed.
	Well, we haven't actually determined that Tubbs was killed, and that's kind of what I wanted to get into.
	Okay, let's go back here.
	Where we left off in our story, you had a cop pulling her over.
	Yeah, right.
	So, well, no, it actually starts with, because the whole story is she died of an aneurysm.
	That's the long and the short of it.
	So the cops say, we saw a car driving at high speed erratically.
	They pulled up next to the car.
	The driver didn't respond to them saying, pull over.
	Which is like, wow, how long can that last?
	That can't last more than like 10 seconds before you crash into something.
	But okay, I'll take it.
	They say that they were able to move her off to the side.
	So high speed, remember.
	Now I've seen the pictures of her car moved off to the side.
	It's kind of like on a piece of grass next to the road.
	No collision damage or anything.
	And so apparently she had suffered an aneurysm and was rushed off to the hospital.
	Here's where it gets weird.
	And the reports then came out that she had passed away, and Nancy Pelosi says, she's the one that I guess passed it on to the press first, she says she received an email from whom is not known that said she was dead.
	But then after that, it was like, no, no, no, she's not dead, she's in critical condition, but she's stable in the hospital.
	I've received reports that the hospital was locked down.
	Could be...
	Maybe for a representative, that could be important too.
	But really locking it down sounded a little bit weird.
	Seems like more of a mobster thing.
	A little bit.
	But then, get this.
	This is what really kills me.
	At a little bit past midnight, they took her off life support systems and she died.
	And I'm reading that and I'm going like...
	That can't be true.
	That's not how America works.
	We had Terry Schiavo hooked up to a machine for years.
	There's just no way that someone just gets unhooked for an aneurysm.
	It sounded really off to me.
	Yeah, and nobody has questioned it at all.
	I mean, zero people have brought up the fact that...
	Actually, I myself didn't think of the Shivo situation.
	Well, I know this because I know a lot about euthanasia coming from the Netherlands that does have a policy that allows it under certain circumstances.
	And I know that the United States just isn't like that.
	Certainly not just hours later.
	But the statement actually was that she was removed from life support.
	I'm like...
	That just doesn't happen that quick.
	I mean, don't you need a court order or something in the United States for that to happen?
	Well, I mean, there is a process.
	You sign a bunch of documents.
	There's a do not, it's called a do not resuscitate or do not something thing that a next of kin can sign.
	Right.
	And I think it's a DNR or whatever it's called.
	But anyway, you sign off on this.
	And so when the person starts to, you know, something happens, they usually don't put them on life support.
	If you put on life support in the first place, you're going to be on it for a while.
	It seems to me you just don't go on it within less than 24 hours.
	You say, well, I guess this was a waste of money.
	You flip the switch.
	It wasn't 24 hours.
	It was like 4 or 5 hours.
	And I know lots of cases of aneurysms where people recover.
	I mean, it can take a while.
	But just from beginning to end, the whole story just sounds kind of weird, you know?
	I've been on the road where somebody's had some situation like this happen as they're driving.
	And I actually knew somebody once who had died from an aneurysm while driving.
	And something always weird happens.
	One guy slammed into a tree because the first thing is he stomped on the gas and it was the end of that.
	And one time I was going across the bridge and some guy obviously was having some issue.
	Because he was in his pickup truck, and then he just all of a sudden was going at full speed, slamming into one side of the bridge wall, and then coming all the way over and slamming into the other, and there were a whole bunch of us in the back, of course, hoping somehow that the car didn't spin around and start heading in the other direction.
	You all slow down and watch this go on, you know, bang, bang, bang, and then the car is sitting by the side of the road with the smoke or steam coming out of the radiator, and the guy is leaning against the wheel.
	I mean, I just don't see...
	I don't see it being calm, no collision, damage, nothing at all.
	She manages to pull over.
	Yeah, no, it's a very suspicious set of circumstances.
	Not that we're promoting the idea that something screwy is going on, but it seems to me that something screwy appears to be going on.
	But the question that we still have is who would be behind it?
	Would it be the Clintons, which I think you subscribe to because of these body count sites and the I mean, how many more dead people have to show up on the list?
	I mean, for real, man.
	How many people, friends, and or associates do you know that are dead?
	I know a couple, and maybe really, really distant, but not like people that I worked with, people that were my friends.
	Their count is up to like 38 or something.
	It's unbelievable.
	Yeah, people that I've known that are...
	Dead.
	And I'm older than Hillary.
	Well, maybe not.
	You're cuter than Hillary, that's for sure.
	Thank you.
	So, I don't have five.
	I mean, some people have died of old age.
	There's been a couple here and there.
	But yeah, no, there's too many.
	They're too suspicious.
	And by the way, it's all violence.
	It's all either through self-inflicted gunshot.
	Or gunshot from somebody else.
	I mean, every single person.
	I think one person was caught hanged.
	Well, the one thing we might want to take into account is that there's a lot of violence and a lot of suicides.
	But then again, these are all Democrats.
	And these two being superdelegates who had recently changed their affiliation for Hillary Clinton to Barack Obama.
	That would make anybody depressed.
	Yeah, for sure.
	Well, anyway, we're going to find out if that is the ploy, if it worked.
	We'll find out next week or this coming week, what, Wednesday?
	Yeah, it starts up.
	And the thing that, of course, which brings us to the second story, which is the one that...
	Is the lineup of speaking and the vote count?
	No, it's that lawsuit, the complaint against Barack Obama by another Hillary supporter.
	That guy, by the way, was one of the big promoters of Hillary.
	Why don't you explain what we got?
	Because I got this PDF file, and I have heard of this before.
	I blogged it.
	You blogged it?
	Okay.
	So it's on the blog.
	But I linked to a...
	Unfortunately, I linked to...
	Instead of just posting the PDF file you sent, I went on the internet to find somebody else who has it already posted, and I just linked to that.
	But it turned out to be on the Free Republic.
	And I got a bunch of flack from the blog readers.
	Ah, Free Republic, they're a bunch of nut balls.
	Right, right, right.
	Well, so the idea is this is a, was it a motion?
	No.
	What is the filing called?
	It's a complaint.
	It's a complaint.
	A complaint saying that, and I've heard this one before, and I've seen it debunked in different ways, that Barack Obama cannot, is not, his background is not valid for him to become United States President because there's these rules that were set up in the, I think, Fourth Amendment?
	You have to be at least 35 years of age, but you have to be either a natural born citizen.
	It's actually in the Constitution, not in an amendment.
	I'm sorry, in the Constitution.
	And there's also some laws about what constitutes natural born.
	It's certainly an irritating roadblock.
	Well, there's more to it with this thing.
	It's a long filing.
	This guy, Philip J. Berg, who did this, is a Hillary supporter.
	I mean, I'm thinking the Republicans are going, do we really have to even do any work here to screw up the election for these guys?
	I mean, Karl Rove must be sitting back there saying, geez, I'm losing money on this deal.
	That should be me doing this, damn it!
	Although it does have kind of the imprint of a Rove trick.
	A Rove-esque move, yeah, sure.
	I mean, it does.
	You look at it, and here's what the kicker is.
	By the way, Philip J. Berg is a 9-11 truther.
	And he's also a former state deputy attorney general of some state, I forget, Pennsylvania or some place.
	It's been filed in Pennsylvania, if that makes sense.
	He's not a complete lunatic, but if you go on YouTube, you'll find a bunch of, you know, where he's talking about the, you know, 9-11 stuff.
	And you look and you go, he's not a complete lunatic, but he's probably just, you know, one of our normal nut jobs.
	And he's got that kind of air about him of one of these, you know, well, no, you know, I don't see how they can find out that blah, blah, blah.
	He's got that kind of engineer's like pace and patter of a, you know, know-it-all engineer.
	Anyway, so he's made this claim that, you know, Barack wasn't even born here, that the whole thing is a scam.
	He was born in Kenya, and then he never was a U.S. citizen.
	I think he was born in Hawaii, wasn't he?
	But, go ahead.
	Well, anyway, let me tell my take on it.
	If they go to the Dvorak.org blog, they'll find this under Philip J. Berg versus Barack Hussein Obama.
	I think that the whole reason for this filing was to introduce all these aliases.
	into the public consciousness it's interesting you say that because that's the first thing that I saw in that complaint I'm like it was like Barack Hussein Obama aka what are all the names John do you have it there in front of you?
	well my favorite one which I use on the blog and I'm gonna start I think I'm gonna use unfortunately even I get suckered into this let me give you the it's a civil action which hasn't he hasn't got a official number so this thing may you know I guess and jury trial demanded he says which is bullshit It's Barack Hussein Obama, a.k.a.
	Barry Soetoro, a.k.a.
	Barry Obama, a.k.a.
	Barack Dunham, a.k.a.
	Barry Dunham, a.k.a.
	And then the Democratic National Committee.
	But anyway, so you have these names, Barry Dunham and Barry Soetoro.
	Isn't the Dunham, that's the Kenya...
	The Kenya gang that he supposedly represents.
	Is it Dunham?
	I don't know.
	I don't think so.
	Yeah, I heard about some...
	It's obvious that this whole thing is a publicity stunt to put Obama's weird names into the public consciousness to make people doubt that he's anything but a phony.
	But meanwhile, of course, just within the time that this thing started to blow up, that's when he threw out Biden's name to take the media away from this, convinced of it, and distract them back to something else that the media can deal with.
	Like, who's Joe Biden?
	Pull out the B-roll on Biden, boys!
	Because the timing is too screwy.
	There was no reason.
	And it was almost like a panic thing with the Biden thing, because they were planning to, like, Twitter.
	Yeah, and send text messages.
	Text messages to all these people who wanted to, you know, and they were supposed to find out first, but the media got it first, and then the website got it, and I don't know if the text messages were ever sent out.
	No, I think they gave it to CNN first, which, of course, pissed everybody off, particularly the Twitterers.
	And they had announced that they would be sending out the text message like it makes any difference on Saturday morning.
	So this morning, I guess your time.
	So I think...
	Because the text message was going to be a huge, massive...
	I guess Barack couldn't just do it himself on his BlackBerry.
	I think they had to...
	It wasn't something they could work out really quick.
	It took a little bit of...
	They probably had to find the company, import the numbers or something like that.
	I think you're right.
	They needed more time to get that mass text message set up.
	Right.
	So what was the hurry?
	What was the rush?
	Why did they have to do this so quickly?
	They could have done it Monday.
	Good point.
	Unless it was something to do with this Philip J. Berg thing to distract everybody, because this thing was starting to get ahead of steam amongst the right-wingers.
	And now it's going to be interesting to see if it even...
	If it gets any traction.
	Right.
	Yeah.
	So again, if the Hillary camp is behind this Philip J. Berg thing, as opposed to...
	Karl Rove, which I don't believe is, even though it's got...
	And I think possibly the timing of it may prove that.
	Then Hillary, again, has been skunked.
	I mean, she has been beaten left and right every time she tries to do anything, or her camp, anything.
	Even these, you know, kind of what you'd call a chicken shit action.
	She gets beat by the Barack group, which seems to be better managed.
	Oh, well, no doubt their organization is slick, but that's also just a matter of money.
	I mean, look how much money they have.
	I think his airplane is actually made out of $20 bills.
	Could be.
	Yeah.
	Did anyone ever talk about that, about his emergency landing, the emergency he had on his airplane?
	Did we talk about that?
	You know, I don't think we might have, but again, maybe it's possible that both these camps are just trying to kill each other.
	It certainly is feasible.
	Well, you know, Bill Clinton, more than anyone, knows the value of that job.
	Yeah, it doesn't pay but $400,000 a year, but the guy goes from being just a piss-poor dirt-kicker to like a guy with $100 million because he was president for eight years.
	I mean, there's something to be said for the leverage that you have in terms of your personal finances, so it's a job you'd want to have, and I think...
	It's definitely up there on the list of cool things to do.
	Let me see.
	Be president.
	All the free blow you can get.
	So, I don't know.
	I thought that emergency landing thing was a little peculiar.
	Yeah, for those of you...
	I think everyone who listens to this show probably knows, but Obama's plane had an emergency in-flight.
	I've heard the FAA tapes.
	I played them on the Daily Source Code.
	And they called for an emergency.
	They called for crash fire rescue, everything, and they had a problem with pitch control.
	And here's what I don't like, and I do have some questions out to somebody of mine.
	What was explained as the problem was that an emergency raft inflated in the tail cone And when that took place, it apparently rubbed up against the control wires of...
	The tail.
	Yes.
	Which is a high wing.
	A high wing tail.
	But then for some reason, once they lost altitude...
	What plane was this?
	What kind of plane?
	I think it was a 757.
	It was a big plane.
	757 doesn't have a high wing.
	757 has...
	Then what has a high wing?
	The high wing would be the MD-80s.
	No, it wasn't MD-80s.
	Well, we can find out pretty quick.
	Yeah, okay.
	Obama plane.
	Come on, Google.
	Show me what you're made of.
	Yeah, here it is.
	FAA acknowledges.
	First, the FAA said there was never an emergency called, but the tapes actually showed.
	ABC News broke that, actually.
	The tapes, clearly, you can hear them calling for that emergency.
	But back to the reason, it was supposed to be because of some, which, by the way, FAA never releases, or the NTSB never releases a report that quickly.
	Oh, we know what it is.
	It always takes weeks before you get any of that.
	Or months or years sometimes.
	You know, so apparently with this inflated emergency slide at 27 or 32,000 feet, they had a pitch control problem, but they came down to, I guess, about 8,000 feet and it recovered.
	What kind of...
	Well, that's a peculiar event in and of itself, the way it's described.
	But the other thing is, what...
	This plane, except an old 727 or some junker from God knows when, has a thing in the tail section.
	I mean, there's no exit there.
	There's a couple doors back there, yeah.
	Okay, here it is.
	But those doors...
	Go ahead.
	Go ahead.
	I'm just saying, I'm imagining what the plane's like inside.
	There's a couple, there's one door that, I mean, there's usually a galley back there in most of these planes, and there could be a door, which would be an emergency exit in the back, which leads to the left or the right-hand side of the plane, port starboard.
	And if one of those things went off within the door structure, it would either shoot out the I'm not getting it.
	I'm not seeing how it could get into the tail section.
	This is from ABC News, and I just love reading the mainstream reports because that's where you get the official words.
	So by the way, Barack's plane, his own plane, was out for maintenance.
	This was a plane that, oh, it gets so much better.
	The Clinton campaign had actually used a week or so earlier.
	So here we have, oh yeah, Mark Rosenker of the NTSB, the National Transportation Safety Board.
	Again, with any incident, any incident, never, ever have I seen them come out this quick.
	Even with private aviation, it takes days, weeks, and it doesn't have to be a crash, anything.
	So he says...
	An inflatable slide in the tail cone of the plane had deployed, making control of the plane tough.
	Yeah, that's real aviation speak, buddy.
	It made control of the plane tough.
	There are hydraulic lines back there, Rosenker says.
	This is funny.
	There are control cables that deal with the elevators and other areas of control surfaces for the aircraft and could potentially make it extremely difficult, if not impossible, to fly the aircraft.
	There you go.
	Thanks, Mr.
	Rosenker.
	I'm buying it.
	That says nothing.
	And why would it be different at higher altitude versus a lower pressure altitude where there's actually air?
	No one's asking these questions, by the way, which is the most idiotic thing.
	No, of course not.
	Why would they?
	Because nobody else, besides the two of us and a few of our listeners, would even consider the fact that anything this sleazy, at least by our thesis, would be occurring right under their noses.
	Before our very eyes, exactly.
	I'm trying to find out what plane it was.
	I just recall...
	Well, you're right, it was an MD-80.
	Fuck, you're right, man.
	You are so right.
	Interesting, MD-80, the exact type of aircraft that...
	That crashed in Madrid.
	That's also a weird one.
	This is another fantastic example.
	There's absolutely zero news, no speculation, nothing about what happened.
	Although I do know one thing.
	If you have an engine failure on takeoff on an MD-80, because I asked about it, even if your engine's on fire, you can still take off.
	So there must have been something else wrong.
	Hmm.
	I wonder if there's any superdelegates aboard.
	Oh, that's horrible, John.
	That's horrible.
	A lot of innocent people and children died in that, man.
	That's fucked up.
	Yeah, I know.
	But if you're going to be killing people, at what point do you say, well, let's be a little circumspect with this one.
	And by the way, it is the CIA's favorite method of killing people.
	That I know.
	Just go read Legacy of Ashes.
	Man, they like to kill people in planes.
	Particularly small private aircraft.
	That's what the guy in the Confessions of an Economic Hitman says.
	Same thing.
	Exact same thing.
	It's the easiest way to do it.
	Especially these little planes.
	They go up and they can shoot it out of the sky for all that anyone cares.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	Thanks, I'm flying tomorrow.
	And, of course, your wife is concerned and all that.
	No, no, no.
	But I did send my buddy, Captain Dan, who flies with me.
	He was going on holiday to France with his family, and we'd agreed a couple months ago.
	He said, could I have the plane and could I fly it down?
	I'm like, sure, Dan, no problem.
	I'm like, this is cool, because if they're after me, then Dan can check it out, see if it works.
	And he returns.
	Well, I don't know.
	The only people to be after you wouldn't probably have operatives there because we'd have to assume a number of factors here based on the fact that you sound like you're wearing a tinfoil hat.
	One is that it would have to be either the Clintons or the Obama campaign, whoever's behind these things, assuming that this theory is correct, as opposed to one of the...
	Intelligence agencies, which probably, I would guess, really like us to discuss this.
	We've talked about this, and that's why, if anything, I'm more vocal about anything that I see coming up or thinking about it.
	I'm not trying to hold anything back, because that's the easiest way to discredit me, is if I really hit on something, they just say I'm a nutcase.
	And some people would hear me and believe me, but the majority wouldn't.
	So I think I'm pretty harmless.
	And you're right.
	What would you say?
	If you can't cover it up, turn it up.
	Right.
	But anyways, I didn't know that the Obama plane was previously used by the Clintons, and then he borrowed it.
	That is just...
	So I'm leaning, because I'm still thinking, well, you know, Barack's from Chicago politics, and there's a bunch, you know, they still have a history of mobsterism and that kind of thing.
	But I'm kind of leaning now on your side with the Clintons possibly having something to do with this.
	I'm sorry, I didn't quite understand.
	You're leaning what?
	I'm leaning on your side.
	You believe the Clintons are the bad actors.
	I just wanted to hear you say it, John.
	That's all.
	Oh, you wanted me to repeat myself so you could groat.
	Yes, I'm feeling so good.
	Well, I could switch.
	I can change my mind.
	Yeah, of course.
	So can I. It's totally allowed.
	Could it be the following?
	This whole thing with the Obama plane was all a ruse that was set up by the Obama people to make it look as if the Clintons maybe had some connection.
	That, I think, is highly likely, although that still doesn't explain the NTSB guy coming out saying this totally unsubstantiated shit.
	He's an Obama man.
	He must be.
	He's an Obama's pop.
	Is he really?
	Let's see.
	I don't know.
	He's a super delegate.
	Yeah, this is what happens.
	You get all these ideas like, Google this, Google that, and then it's like, hon, dinner is now cold.
	Well, the funny thing about that is that we got onto this crazy line of thinking because you and I went to lunch, and the guy that was executed in Arkansas, or assassinated, we were sitting at lunch.
	It was in Fringal in San Francisco, and you had your phone with a browser on it.
	And right there, if the guy was a superdelegate, you think?
	And then you immediately looked it up on Google, and bingo!
	Super delegate.
	Super delegate.
	Dead.
	And so then you went kind of into the, you know, that's when you started digging up later.
	The whole Clinton body count.
	For anybody out there who wants to know the genesis, that's how it started.
	That's really the genesis, yeah.
	And then, you know, just, wow, man, it's like blown away.
	Let's switch off of this.
	I'm tired of the Clintons.
	Here's one for you.
	I'm sure you've seen this about Intel demonstrating wireless power.
	Yeah.
	I love that.
	How are they doing that?
	Well, you know, Tesla had done that 150 years ago or whatever.
	That's the whole story of his tower, that he was going to beam electricity to people wirelessly, and it never emerged because he ran out of money, or his money supply was cut off because, of course, the Rockefellers who had copper.
	I remember back in, I think it was the 70s or 80s, Where there was a plan to beam wireless power from satellites via microwaves.
	I love it.
	And, you know, people didn't like the idea of being cooked on Earth while the power...
	Hey, we got light bulbs lit, but I'm feeling really kind of dizzy.
	How do they do it, though?
	What's the science behind it?
	Is that the ether they're using, or what people are calling the ether?
	You know, you can put a high-energy...
	Wave out in the form of radio or whatever, and it can target it, and it can be absorbed.
	I mean, that's how a passive antenna works anyway.
	I mean, when you receive your network broadcast signal, that is power.
	Sure, but to make a 60-watt light bulb glow, that's pretty cool.
	Yeah, that's a lot of juice.
	Yeah, they did it.
	They say, well, retaining 75% of the energy they started with.
	So I guess they started with like 90 watts of power.
	I mean, I've been on ships and on pirate radio ships where you could hold up a fluorescent light tube on the deck and it would just light up because of the AM transmitter.
	Right, right.
	Same thing.
	FM transmitters, same thing.
	But still, you're talking about to make even a small 6-volt bulb glow, ah, man, we'd have to put it close up to an antenna that was pumping at least 250 watts.
	Yeah, I'm surprised your arm didn't fall off.
	Well, you can't say I'm normal now, can you?
	Now I understand it all.
	It's clear now.
	There's some lasting effects.
	And the one conspiracy theory of this week that I just love is this Michael Phelps 7th Metal Omega Scandal.
	Oh, were the guy, were there still some question whether he was first?
	Yeah.
	In that one race, I think it was a butterfly, something like that?
	Yeah, exactly, exactly.
	Well, that's not really what's going on.
	I mean, that's a minor scandal.
	I think that's another cover for what's really going on.
	It's the scandal within the boxing community.
	Oh, really?
	Over what appears to be rigged matches, poor officiating, incompetence, according to the American commentators, who have watched Obama's 300 fights, and they were on last night moaning about this, and they showed examples.
	Of one guy, like, getting pounded and getting no points, and another guy getting love-tapped and getting points, and another guy losing points for what the other guy was doing.
	It was...
	You know, John, I've got to tell you, I'm looking at it right now, Judging Scandal rocks Olympic boxing competition, but it's...
	It's more of the same thing.
	I think the whole Olympics is just one complete political corrupt money-grubbing scheme.
	I thought it before all of this.
	I think they're separate.
	Now we've got the Chinese athletes who apparently some of them were like three, 14, and falsified passports.
	It makes total sense that all of this shit is just one big corrupt ball of crap.
	Well, I'll tell you this, there was one instance where there was this thing where you jump over the horse, you know, that the girls were doing, and the Chinese woman, who was the big favorite, who, by the way, I see the Chinese, and I don't want to make a generalization, but I think they're chokers.
	Chokers?
	They do well when there's no pressure, but when they're under a little pressure, I think it's because they're always worried about their family being taken out and shot.
	Right, like the track and field guy who pulled his hamstring.
	He was the huge celebrity, right?
	He already had all the coke endorsements and all the big deals and he couldn't even do the hurdles because he pulled his hamstring right out of the gate.
	Right.
	So anyway, this one girl comes and she does the jump.
	You know, you jump over this horse and spin and land.
	And she fell.
	And she still got the bronze over an American who did a really good job.
	It's ludicrous.
	Well, hold on a second.
	The landing doesn't count for everything.
	You don't know how the judging process works.
	Yeah, I know how it works.
	You fall, you can't get bronze, damn it.
	That's just wrong.
	So anyway, the...
	But the thing about Phelps that I liked is that Omega's doing the timing.
	Omega's been sponsoring him for five years.
	You know, Omega talks about they have this...
	Did you see that site?
	100thofasecond.com?
	Mm-mm.
	Oh, they've got all the links there.
	Here's the one you've got to hear about.
	Hold on.
	You know, this wouldn't have happened, I might add.
	If it was a tie and they both got the gold, he would have still gotten his gold and there would have been no grousing.
	Yeah, true.
	You know, I looked at that thing a million times and it looked like a tie to me.
	I mean, this camera underwater is like, you know, just, I don't see that.
	Well, you have to hit it with both hands.
	That's the official F-I-N-A rules.
	No, you don't.
	You just touch it with the one hand.
	No, I think the rules actually state that in the butterfly.
	Well, I have the rules here.
	Look at this site, 100thofasecond.com.
	I mean, they're pointing to something that looks like rules.
	Here, FINA official swimming rules for butterfly races state the requirement of both hands simultaneously touching the pad, and that's from FINA.org.
	So that's in the butterfly, I guess, only.
	Yes, which they were doing at the time.
	Yes, I understand that much.
	Okay, now let me find for you the black box quote, which is just too funny.
	Is this FINA.org?
	Yeah.
	What do you get?
	Water is our world, 100 years.
	I don't know.
	I'm looking at the splash page.
	Yeah, fina.org here.
	I've got...
	This site's really good, this hundredthofasecond.com.
	Here, I'll send it to you through Skype.
	What they did is they took screenshots of all of these sites.
	Okay, so here's...
	This is the one that I like.
	This is from their own literature.
	Oh, shit.
	I lost it already.
	How do I get to it?
	Are you looking at that thing?
	Yeah, I am.
	See what it says?
	Did you underline that yourself?
	No, I did not.
	I'm just saying it looks like some kid, you know, with a mouse.
	It's done with Microsoft Paint.
	It's done with paint.
	Can't you tell?
	Yeah.
	Here it is.
	This is from OmegaWatches.com.
	You'll love this.
	A 1995 Omega combined timekeeping with information technology, introducing ARES, the Automatic Recording Evaluation System, combining a black box chronograph unit that captures and prints times from sensors in the pool with a computer that can process the data and make it available to the outside world without compromising the security of the black box.
	Who's their marketing guy?
	I don't know.
	It sounds like he was in the CIA or the KGB. Well, anyway, the guy is still half-fish.
	It doesn't matter.
	No, the guy's amazing.
	Yeah.
	Even though I think he looks to me, because he's got this funny smile and a big goofy smile, he looks like a character in a Nick Parks Wallace and Gromit movie.
	I mean, think about him as a Wallace and Gromit puppet, a clay character, and you can't not laugh.
	Yeah, yeah.
	But meanwhile, of course, the real news is the guy, these Jamaicans who all of a sudden, how did this happen?
	Dude, they've been running.
	Now they're the powerhouse runners.
	You tell me there's not some kind of something going on there?
	It seems a little fishy.
	Now, Jamaica's, you know, well, we know about the bobsled team, but they've had a lot of runners.
	I mean, maybe it's just their time, you know?
	Well, I guess it is.
	There's a lot of crap going on in Jamaica.
	Maybe they have to run faster, run away from trouble.
	It could be.
	So I guess, but nothing else, at least the Americans, it looks like, it'll be tomorrow.
	We're doing this recording on Saturday, so it'll be Sunday.
	The American basketball team at least is fun to watch.
	My girls won the Dutch female hockey team.
	The field hockey?
	Yeah.
	I've been following them for years.
	mainly because they are extremely hot have you noticed that by the way that almost every hot athlete in the olympics across the board and i've seen in sweden germany the netherlands i'd probably not the u.s but they're all showing up in uh bikinis well bikinis or semi-nude you know they're an fhm uh you know they're they're all showing up naked i mean when i first saw this was at some games uh I think it was last year.
	In fact, I was going to blog it.
	I have some pictures.
	Because I'm watching some girl do the pole vault.
	And this woman had almost nothing on.
	She had like a thong and a skimpy top.
	And she's jumping over the, you know, she's doing a pole vault, and I'm thinking, what the, how did they allow this?
	I mean, the men aren't going out like that.
	Yeah, we already talked about this last week.
	Yeah, we talk about it all the time.
	Yeah, well, it's because it's the greatest show on earth, man.
	It's the greatest, yeah, well, it's the greatest show on earth, and it's rigged, and it's all about the show.
	Done, I'm done with it.
	It won't be around next week, thank God.
	Yeah, well, I have enjoyed watching it, except the corrupt part of it, the poor judging and that part.
	I mean, they can manage to get, you know, one thing about the boxing, they made the assertion that we've got the best people from around the world to do the judging and the best people from around the world to be the referees, and they don't have the best people.
	They have some of the best athletes that come to this thing to make a big party out of it.
	But when it comes to the officiating, they're slouches.
	They're obviously not paying enough.
	Or it's like, well, you have to, you know, it's good for your, you know, one of those things where you want to get people to come to something because it's good for your bio.
	You know, this will be good for your bio, your resume, you know, so we're not going to pay you a crap.
	That's cheap.
	Exactly.
	Think of all the goodwill you'll create.
	You know, you can use it as leverage, but this is what happens, by the way, in a lot of trade shows.
	How can we not speaking at, people say to me always, how can we not speaking at CES? I never speak at CES because they don't pay a nickel.
	Here's an operation.
	Seriously.
	The way it works is you're supposed to pay them.
	That's how it works.
	You pay them, you get the speaking slot.
	Isn't that the whole system?
	No, actually, you have to speak for free, but the point is that it's a profit-making operation.
	They're making millions and millions of dollars, and they're doing it off the backs of volunteers who don't get a nickel.
	And what really irked me about the last time I was invited, I said, well, you pay anything?
	No.
	Well, can you get me?
	I'd have to come in a day early to do this.
	Can you put me up in a room somewhere?
	I know you've got a bunch of rooms, you know, for the place.
	No.
	Can't give you a free room.
	I'm thinking, well, what am I supposed to do?
	Screw you.
	That's exactly what happened with it.
	Actually, I did a whole thing on the source code about the New Media Expo, which was held last weekend in Vegas.
	The organizer, Tim Bork, when he's...
	It sounds like he wants to quit.
	He says, you know, I guess he can't really make it work for him.
	He can't make money out of it.
	But he does go into quite some depth about the whole pay-to-play issue, where it's really reversed.
	If for some reason I wanted to do a keynote, I'm not saying this is how it works with the New Media Expo, but with most conferences, you either buy a booth or you become a sponsor, and then you get a speaking slot.
	So it works from a corporation, but that's why you don't see many interesting solo speakers for the reasons you just mentioned.
	You know, they either don't have the money, don't want to spend the money, but it's also just not kind of how it works anymore.
	No, I've heard about this before.
	In fact, you've talked about it.
	These are smaller conferences.
	I don't think anybody's buying the keynote at CES. I think that's an invitation-only thing.
	You know what I mean.
	Having the big keynote, and you hear this John Chambers or Bill Gates or something, he draws a big crowd, and you get to promote their products.
	But guys like me who are writers, I mean, I don't have a book out.
	There's nothing for me to promote.
	I would be there as an objective speaker or someone hitting a panel or on a panel.
	And so there's no benefit to me to do this for free.
	It's a waste of my time.
	There's only 50 to 150 people in a typical small audience.
	I'm not getting the big room.
	You get no business out of it, I'm sure.
	I get no business out of it.
	It's a complete joke.
	And then they're all uppity about the fact that I won't do it for free.
	Yeah, now I get the same thing with all these new media conferences.
	Hey, come and speak.
	They'll put me up, right?
	I'm like, well, I'll see what the benefit is, you know?
	And then we'll have your guys spend another $10,000 on sponsoring the event.
	It's like, uh-uh.
	Uh-uh-uh.
	Yeah, well, anyway, but that's kind of what I'm thinking with the Olympics.
	They must be pulling that cheap-ass stunt of saying, well, no, it's good for your bio.
	And they always have this excuse, but no, it'll look good on your resume.
	You can say you spoke here.
	I'm saying, yeah, I can say I spoke there anyway because no one's going to know one way or the other.
	I can just put it on the resume.
	Be like Joe Biden.
	That's right.
	You can become vice president with that tactic.
	The UK economy shuttered to a halt, writes the Financial Times.
	Shuttered to a halt.
	That's happening, Johnny boy.
	Well, what's happening is we're seeing the teeter-totter effect of the price of oil falling, never going to hit $200, as some people have predicted.
	No, no, I've adjusted that.
	I've said it's going back down to $60 or $50.
	Right, so it's going that way, and the dollar's going and sneaking up on the same kind of, like, let's move our money this way.
	Well, you're a little bit behind, John, because that's not entirely true.
	You know, oil had a real seesaw.
	It dropped $6.
	No, I agree, but now it took another big dip.
	So I'm in San Francisco.
	Down $6.
	Right.
	I was in San Francisco roaming around yesterday with my son, and we went to H&M, which he couldn't find in San Francisco.
	It's kind of from some weird point.
	It's off Union Square, isn't it?
	Yeah, but you can't really see it from any place that you'd normally...
	Like, if you were at Macy's and looked for the H&M, you wouldn't be...
	Actually, you can't see it.
	You can't see it from there.
	It's weird.
	I know where it is just by chance, but yeah.
	Yeah, it's on Powell.
	Anyway, so, but there you go, and the place is crawling with the Europeans.
	And then I was at, you know, looking for some shoes, because I need shoes, and I'm in the place, and I went to the Cole Haan store and checked out some stuff, which is like, now it's like the shoes aren't quite as expensive as they used to be, but they have these Nike soles, and so if you, they basically, now you can't get them rehealed.
	Yeah, because they're glued soles, right?
	Yeah, they're glued, you know, I'm sure, and they're comfortable, but they're plastic glued.
	I don't know what they're thinking.
	Do people still, I mean, I get my shoes rehealed, resold all the time.
	Do people still do that, or am I just really old-fashioned that way?
	No, no, we have two places in Berkeley.
	That'll do it.
	And there used to be one in Albany which closed.
	No, I do it all.
	I still do it.
	I mean, if you have, like, good...
	Some good-ass shoes, you want to keep them comfortable.
	If you have a good pair of, like, some Gucci's or something like that, and they're usually, especially the Italian shoes, they have a very thin sole.
	And so you don't get that much mileage out of them before you get a, you know, the sole gets a little hole in it.
	You got to have the whole bottom replaced.
	It costs...
	It's not cheap, but the shoes are pretty expensive.
	Yeah.
	But they last forever if you keep them up.
	Yeah, take care of them.
	Anyway, so I asked the guy, he says, because I'm in there and there's a German couple roaming around looking at these expensive bags that are, I don't know, $1,000.
	Yeah, like $2,000 bags, I know.
	It drives me nuts.
	And they're just buying them because to them, everything's half price because of the dollar to euro ratio.
	So these people come over here and they see an expensive...
	It's $500, let's say.
	And to them, it's $250, which they can't get in their own country for less than $600.
	And so they're buying left and right.
	They're doing all kinds of purchasing.
	They're going crazy, actually.
	But that's just the exchange, John.
	That's just the exchange.
	And, of course, that makes sense for tourism.
	By the way, for the euro, it's not one to two.
	It's one and a half is what it is now.
	Well, to me, it's one to two, and I'll tell you why.
	Because one time when I was in Europe a few years ago when the euro was 80 cents.
	Yeah.
	And so now it's almost $1.60.
	So to me, it's doubled.
	Okay, I got you.
	But the real problem is the financial system is falling apart.
	This is no bottom we've seen, John.
	Oh, yeah, bottom.
	No, this shit is going down.
	Everything is going down even more.
	Including the dollar, including oil.
	I think we're almost officially at hyperinflation in the U.S. I'm telling you.
	You watch.
	It's about to happen.
	I'm predicting it here.
	Don't laugh at me.
	Don't laugh at me.
	I'm planning on opening up some real weird whoop-ass on you later on.
	Don't laugh at me about this.
	This is nothing.
	Well, it's not happening the way you described it.
	We're at the bottom.
	The thing is bouncing.
	It's like dragging its ass along the rocks.
	So you're saying the dollar is at bottom now.
	This is where it's going to stay.
	It's not going to go down any lower.
	It's going to go up.
	Okay.
	We'll see.
	Oil's going down.
	Dollar's going up.
	We're going to be having, as soon as the next president gets elected, there's going to be a boom.
	Massive boom.
	Everyone is going to be all jacked up.
	They're going to be going crazy.
	And then you'll have the real crash and then you'll wonder what happened.
	Okay, so it's imminent.
	We're just going to have an interim bump of all kinds of craziness, which is...
	Have you heard of this thing called the Plunge Protection Team?
	No.
	This is interesting.
	I like the name of it.
	Yeah, this is...
	I read this...
	It has a different name, but it's known as the...
	Let me see.
	Ron Ball was talking about it.
	The Plunge Protection Team is apparently...
	It's a group of...
	Here we go.
	Wikipedia.
	I'll just read it.
	Well, Washington Post.
	Hold on.
	Let me get it from Washington Post.
	It makes me feel better.
	Did they actually list it here?
	Plunge Protection Team...
	Well, okay, so the idea is that there's a group of individuals who are brought in and when the markets are about to plunge, because you can manipulate markets as long as you have enough money and you can keep liquidity going quick enough.
	You can keep trading stuff back and forth.
	It's all about the volume and the activity and liquidity of whatever it is you're trading.
	That's really how markets work.
	And so the president can call in, here it is, the Working Group on Financial Matters, otherwise known as the Plunge Protection Team.
	It includes the Secretary of the Treasury, Chairman of the Fed, Securities and Exchange Commission, Commodity Futures Trading Commission.
	And they will then start to place and execute orders of huge magnitude, of billions, which is intended to stop the plunge.
	I can't believe you've never heard of this.
	Well, I haven't.
	Okay.
	It sounds like a fiasco waiting to happen.
	Well, of course it is.
	It always ends in tears when you do stuff like that, but it sounds to me like they've, I've heard from, you know, read in different reports that this has actually been, the plunge protection team has been called in, and they're already working their stuff.
	Hmm.
	Now I have to look into this for further discussion.
	Okay.
	Please do, because I value your analysis on that.
	No, you don't.
	Yes, I do.
	I look forward to this chat every Saturday.
	It's okay that sometimes I'm talking and you're just tapping away, writing your next fucking novel on your computer, not listening to what I have to say, but I enjoy it.
	What was that again?
	Never mind.
	I get lots of complaints.
	I get complaints that when I'm talking, you're doing your admin.
	I'm not on that machine.
	I'm not on the writing machine.
	If you hear me tapping, it's because I'm looking something up for the purposes of debate.
	Anyway, I thought that was interesting.
	Yeah, that is interesting.
	The plunge protection.
	What a plunge.
	What kind of a term is that?
	You know, plunge usually refers to a public swimming pool in a small town.
	I've been watching throughout the week, every evening around 8 o'clock, I'll watch, no, even later than that, I guess, The Closing Bell on CNBC, you know, watch a little bit of Fox News.
	And the CNBC stuff is just, every analyst, every guy, they're all saying the same thing.
	Well, it's hard to tell.
	Can't quite see where we're at right now.
	Well, there's a thing, and if we have it on the blog again, Jim Cramer.
	No, I saw that.
	No, I saw that live.
	That was on CNBC. I saw him sitting there saying, everyone just get out of the market.
	You shouldn't trade Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac.
	It's a rip-off.
	He says it's rigged.
	Yeah, he almost literally said it's an inside job.
	He says you've got to be crazy.
	And it's funny, because Patricia's sitting there, because she's never seen Jim Cramer.
	And she's sitting there going like, is this guy for real?
	Yeah, unfortunately, he's actually quite for real, and he really means what he...
	He talks like an idiot.
	Yeah, that's kind of his whole...
	You should see his show.
	Well, no, you know, he...
	I think the...
	You know why she thinks he talks like an idiot?
	It's because at various moments when he gets emotional, he actually...
	It exudes the Mickey Mouse voice.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	I mean, it's high-pitched.
	He does, he does.
	Hi, I know she's fucking goofy.
	Yeah, you're right.
	You're right.
	So, and it's because there was a moment within the thing, man, he sounds just like Mickey Mouse with his high, he needs to get some testosterone supplements or something to get his voice down a little bit.
	It's too high-pitched.
	I'm surprised.
	I mean, I think dogs, you know, miles away are turning their heads.
	Please, John.
	Okay, no reason to get mean on Mr.
	Kramer.
	Yeah, he's a good entertainer.
	I mean, there's a couple guys who track his predictions, you know, do buy this, sell that, buy this, sell that.
	And he's just right in the middle.
	He's no better than anybody else.
	Yeah, he's actually no better than us.
	If we were in the middle of all of that action, we'd have a similar type show.
	Yeah, and it would be the same, you know, series of good picks and bad.
	Yeah.
	But of course, the big news, I'm so happy that our government has shown us once and for all, and have solved for us the mystery of World Trade Center 7 collapsing.
	That was pretty amazing.
	Yeah, I'm surprised that they just didn't let the thing fester.
	I mean, they came out with the statement that it was the fire.
	The place was on fire.
	And so then, out of the blue, it collapses like it was...
	Oh, hold on a second.
	No, no, it didn't collapse in free fall.
	It was only at 47% of free fall.
	Is that what they said?
	Yeah.
	Listen, let me tell you how this went down, okay?
	So I'll just tell you once and for all that we can be done with this.
	First of all, the whole reason why is because of the Enron documents contained in that building.
	Secret Service, SEC, there was a lot of shit that had to go away.
	It had to be burned.
	It had to be disintegrated.
	That's why.
	And there's lots more reasons behind that.
	Now, there was no time.
	I've got to tell you, both for all three towers now, I'm going to tell you that there wasn't even time for them to put explosives in, even though Larry Silverstein, owner of the building, said we should pull the building.
	This was clearly, clearly a pulse energy weapon.
	Oh!
	Yes.
	Clearly, in all three cases, obviously a combination of whatever it was, there was some pulverizing force of some weapon that we have not been exposed to.
	There's just no other explanation for all of this.
	Well, there is actually, I think.
	We're going to take the side of the truthers, which I love that term, by the way, because it just sounds nutty.
	I'm a truther.
	Yeah, it's good.
	It's good.
	So there was one video that was done early on when the truther started to emerge.
	Actually, we blogged this too.
	It's on there somewhere.
	The problem is with my blog, it's got so many posts now, it's been going for four years that you can't find anything.
	The search is almost ineffective.
	The search doesn't work.
	But anyway, some guys said that they had closed these buildings, including the big ones, For some sort of retrofitting.
	Oh yeah, I've heard all this.
	They loaded them up with the crap to blow them up.
	And it was a Bin Laden company that did that, by the way.
	It was what?
	A Bin Laden company?
	A Bin Laden construction company that did all that, yeah.
	Well, I didn't get that part of it.
	But whatever the case was, it seems to me that somebody at some point would spill the beans on this because it's not one guy doing it, obviously.
	It's a whole team of people.
	And that they would come out of the woodwork unless they've been assassinated or they're in some other country or they're hiding out.
	I mean, if it was me that had...
	Been involved with rigging that Building 7 to blow up.
	I would be scared.
	Of course.
	Of course.
	Particularly if you're a superdelegate.
	Exactly.
	Don't be a superdelegate.
	But that's why I'm telling you, pulse energy weapon, John.
	Pulse energy weapon.
	Somebody would have been knocked on their ass.
	I've seen recent truther videos, and they're getting better.
	The quality is getting better.
	I love watching it.
	Those truther videos are great.
	By the way, for people out there, you'll see these truthers.
	They're all over the place with these signs.
	They like to talk, and many of them have copies of the discs.
	They freely distribute.
	They don't cost anything.
	You ask them if they have a DVD, and they want you to copy it and give it to your friends.
	And I have a couple, or two or three, I think.
	And some of them are better than others, but they're just...
	It's a very weird underground...
	Well, it's not that...
	First of all, it's not that underground...
	Just let me state that for me it doesn't matter because that was so long ago That, you know, there's a lot more shit that I'm interested in, what's happening, you know, that we've got to be on the lookout for.
	But that, for me, was the awakening, like, okay, this stinks, you know, no matter what happened.
	But I'm seeing videos, and I love these.
	Bill Giltner is a guy who posts a lot of stuff on drop.io slash daily source code and puts stuff into comments.
	Also on No Agenda, I think he puts some comments.
	And they're showing proof how the video of the towers was manipulated.
	And, you know, you see, like, you know how you see a Photoshop where you'll see, you know, the smoke copy and pasted three times?
	If you just have any random Photoshop job?
	So he's showing how this was done in video.
	And, you know, I'm just saying, it's very interesting to watch.
	And then there's the whole thing that the BBC, you know, announced that the Building 7 had collapsed, you know, like 40 minutes before it actually collapsed.
	That's just misreporting.
	Pulse energy weapon.
	The same thing they used in Oklahoma City.
	Pulse energy weapon.
	Yeah, well, that's an interesting theory.
	That's about as crazy as anything you've brought up ever.
	No, no, no.
	I think my meeting with the Pleiadian tomorrow, that's going to be even bigger, even nuttier.
	Your what?
	My meeting with the extraterrestrial tomorrow.
	Oh, right.
	I'm coming out, I'm telling you.
	You finally, you've exposed your, okay, now you have to tell the public what you're talking about.
	Alright, so I've been working on this for a couple months.
	I've been in touch with a group in the Netherlands.
	They have a pretty cool website, niburu.nl, N-I-B-U-R-U dot N-L. It's in Dutch, but basically they're an alternative news service.
	But the guy who started this in 2002, he started as the UFO, what do you call it?
	I know the Dutch word.
	The main UFO reporting place in the Netherlands.
	And he was really more into aviation and UFOs and stuff like that, but then he got wrapped up in a whole bunch of other stuff anyway.
	And I could talk to you for hours about the theories, or they don't consider them theories, what they actually believe is taking place.
	And so I had him on the radio show, the Dutch radio show.
	An interesting guy is 58.
	He's had several different careers and he's been doing this for the past six or seven.
	Doesn't make much money off of it.
	But at a certain point I said, this is really interesting.
	I'm open to all kinds of theories.
	I'll listen to everything and anything.
	And there's a lot of...
	A lot of things that go into, you know, these 2012, you know, the UFOs, you know, water crystals, you name it.
	All that stuff is...
	I'm interested in all of it.
	There's a lot of it that sounds...
	Water crystal?
	What is water crystals?
	It's the guy who's been doing experiments for a long time where you can analyze the crystallization of water and it responds differently to different inputs.
	So one of the experiments they do is they just hang a sign.
	They take two identical bottles of water, same water source, hang a sign on one that says love and then hang a sign on the other one that will say car or something else, something irrelevant.
	And you'll see that when they look at the crystallization of that water, it's very...
	Actually, the one with kind of the bogus label will have a very unstructured crystal formation, but the one that had the label Love on it has a very structured, very beautiful crystal.
	Ha ha ha!
	Ha ha ha!
	You know what?
	Bubba Martin will find the link for that, and he'll put that into the show notes at noagenda.mevio.com.
	So anyway, so I said, you know, so I want to meet one of these Pleiadians, I think is how you pronounce it.
	We're assuming that these UFO people, they've categorized these aliens as these Pleiadians as one, and then there's the grays, right?
	Yeah, there's like 57 different varieties.
	Yeah.
	And the only question I am going to ask when I meet this Pleiadian...
	Well, let's back up.
	You're going to get to meet somebody who claims to be one of these guys?
	Yes.
	Tomorrow.
	Okay.
	Tomorrow.
	Yeah.
	And, you know, look, I said, look, you know, You guys have this whole story.
	We have the ascension to the fifth dimension.
	We're at the dawning of the age of Aquarius.
	The earth is changing.
	Now they've bypassed our leaders who have held them away for 70 years, and now they're coming directly to us, hence the increased activity in UFO sightings.
	And so they're trying to get the word out and wake people up.
	I consider no difference really between waking people up to saying, look at what your government is doing, look at the prison you actually live in, versus here comes salvation.
	It's like religion, it's all kind of the same thing, but I'm looking for something pretty concrete before I buy into the story and help you guys...
	Promote your agenda.
	Promote the agenda, yeah.
	I think I deserve a little bit of help here because I've been open.
	I've tried to raise the frequencies of my body and chakras and I don't see no fucking ships yet.
	So let me meet this guy and I'll get a real good sense of what I think.
	Yeah, so you'll be reporting next week or you'll be reporting on Daily Source Code, I'm sure, before you talk to me.
	I haven't actually talked about this on Daily Source Code.
	I wanted to keep this kind of our thing.
	Because I think it's much better for you to be sitting there guffawing, laughing, whistling, typing on your keyboard and generally just telling me I'm an idiot.
	I've never said you're an idiot.
	No, no, no.
	Kooky, perhaps.
	Because that way there's kind of balance.
	There's a balance in the information and people can take it either way.
	You probably have your fans that think I'm some sort of a stiff.
	No, no, not at all.
	And I have my fans who think you're a kook.
	Really?
	That's funny because all my peeps, all my fans love you.
	Well, they probably only because I keep you from going off the true deep end.
	Well, I figured I've kind of made a decision.
	I might as well just go all out until 2012.
	I've got nothing to lose, right?
	I just might as well go completely nutty and see where we wind up.
	It'll be entertaining at least.
	There's nothing to lose.
	Well, you're some of your sanity.
	No, I'm not going to lose my sanity.
	Well, I don't know how many of the, I mean, but the term, by the way, I do like this British term for this type of thing, which is nutter.
	He's a nutter.
	Yeah.
	But I mean, I'm sure that there's a number of people that listen to us and they probably just think, well, at least Adams, you know, at least he's more open-minded than Dvorak.
	Well, but it's important.
	And I know that you're also playing the other side specifically because it's important.
	It's important for the story.
	But I'll tell you that people are so desperate here in the UK. And these are people who are doing okay for themselves.
	But, you know, they have restaurants or they have other places that are very dependent upon people's cash in hand in the economy.
	And they know that I'm a nutter.
	Oh, here's Adam.
	Here's that Yankee's a nutter.
	Oh, what's he got up his sleeve today?
	Fighting the reptiles, are you, Adam?
	But, you know, when I tell them these stories, they're actually like, they're so desperate for any good news that they'll listen.
	It's like, here, man, have another cappuccino.
	Tell me some more.
	Are they coming?
	I've convinced one guy that he has this parking lot.
	He has a club.
	Michelle.
	Michelle Harper.
	He's got this place called Harper's.
	It's a huge club in town.
	I mean, he tried to get a casino license for it, and he's been battling council forever.
	So he wants to get this parking lot behind his place.
	And I said, dude, here's what we do.
	We call it Harper's 2012, and we make a big fucking landing spot in this parking lot.
	And we just market that and promote it.
	And who knows?
	They might actually come.
	No, that is actually one genius marketing idea.
	And that's what he picked up on.
	He said, that's fucking great.
	He says, Curry, you're nuts, but I think he's going to do it.
	Yeah, well, most bars and restaurants are going to last until 2012, even if nothing happens in 2012, which will be the situation.
	But anyway, by the way, I finally got my copy of Legacy of Ashes, which is the book that you've been demanding I read.
	Have you started?
	Have you finished?
	Oh, God, this thing's huge.
	Yeah, I told you.
	And you've got to concentrate.
	It's not like just you read it on the plane.
	You've got to sit there and think about a lot of stuff.
	Yes, but you can also read it like you can in much non-fiction, which is you can just pick it up like a Bible and just open it up and read these hilarious anecdotes about one thing or another.
	And it's actually a very funny book.
	I knew you'd like it, man.
	I knew you'd like it.
	There's the one where they, you know, it's just, I mean, it's like, you know, somebody gets a, you know, the Russians need to put some controls into a pipeline, so they have to buy some controller from the, we won't sell it to them to keep the pipeline working, and so they go to Canada, but apparently it's a spook company that, you know, we had something to do with, and so they give them a controller that keeps the pipeline filled with oil pumping it, and then it slowly ratchets it up to pressure.
	I know.
	It blows the thing to smithereens with too much oil.
	When you read that book, you sit there, you go like, we're a bunch of infantile frickin' idiots.
	We've been playing this frickin' game with the world for 50, 60 years, and it's dumb.
	The result is always the same.
	You'll read about the fluoride, you'll read about the coke, the drug running, all the stuff that you've read in the news that you were partial to just by being exposed to some of the story.
	Remember, my uncle, who was there at almost inception when it went from OSS to CIA, he says, Adam, it's all true.
	It's all true.
	Unfortunately for him, some of the things there that he was involved with are true as well, including sending hundreds of North Vietnamese boys to their certain death without him knowing that that's what was happening.
	But it's all true.
	Yeah, well, I mean, I would assume that it sounds true.
	I mean, it reads like it's true.
	It's a really good document.
	But there's this humor...
	I mean, there's also this kind of a sadness because the conclusion of the book is the first thing my son does.
	By the way, there's a book out there everyone should read called How to Read a Book.
	And I think it's a classic.
	I think it was Fathom or somebody wrote it.
	I've heard of it.
	But anyway, the first thing he does is he goes and looks at the conclusion and reveals it, of course.
	Which is that the whole thing is ineffective.
	Spoiler alert.
	Spoiler alert.
	Yeah.
	The whole thing is what?
	Ineffective, I mean the whole mechanism.
	It's all stupid, right.
	It's completely dumb.
	It's funny.
	It's a good book.
	If you want to know what the United States is all about, that's your book.
	Well, anyway, there is a juvenile aspect to it.
	Killing people left and right is probably not necessarily a positive thing to be involved with.
	No, it's not.
	In small planes.
	So what else we got?
	What is going on over there besides you say the economy came to a halt?
	A grinding halt, they say.
	Well, it's gotten really bad, John.
	It really has.
	People are so numbed and terrorized here.
	I was watching a show last night on TV, and this is one of these very typical shows that you've seen them in the States.
	It's like a cops.
	It's a reality-based show.
	And what they do is they go on stakeout, and then they wait for guys to drive up and try to pick up hookers who are walking on the street.
	And then they bust him, right?
	This is our law enforcement at work.
	So they have a version of this show, and it's like Crime Watch or Crime Scene or something.
	You know, they've got a host in the studio.
	But just, you know, there's a difference when, you know, the cops in the States have a certain protocol that at least on television they pretend to follow, right?
	But here, these guys, you know, they immediately jump up to your car, they rip open your door, they pull the keys out, they're not uniform, they don't show any identification, and then they start to, like, lecture you and tell you that you're a horrible person.
	It was just like, and you could see these guys, you know, poor guys just trying to get a wank on a Saturday night.
	Oh, God.
	And then they go right to the girls and they're laughing and then the girls go free.
	And they just wait until someone solicits them again and they get the Johns.
	It's crazy.
	It's absolutely fucking crazy.
	But the violation of all decency, and I guess there's no Miranda laws, there's no search warrant laws, I guess there's none of that here.
	Well, that's why we left that group of people.
	They have this tendency to go crazy like this.
	Yeah, for sure, man.
	And now the council representatives, so that's like the guys who run Guilford, okay?
	It's not like huge...
	I mean, yeah, the government, but for the council, which is probably like a PTA meeting, they all got together and they've decided that they are now going to remove children and to put them into child protective services if they're obese.
	Hmm.
	Which is just, it's an outrage.
	That is an outrage.
	It's unbelievable.
	You know, and by saying, it's almost worse to be feeding your child inappropriately than not feeding them at all.
	So now they can take them away and put them into child protective services.
	Well, I've got to blog that.
	That's a beauty.
	You've got to send me a link to that one.
	Yeah, it's in the Times, man.
	I'll send it to you right now.
	And then they go on to justify all of this.
	That's the one that really got me.
	They talk about how they've had to order new ambulances because people are too fat.
	Too fat.
	And crematoriums, they have to build bigger ovens.
	Gee.
	Oh, man.
	I love it.
	I love it.
	Well, you know, the Canadians have a version, or they've had it.
	I don't know if they...
	I haven't seen it for years.
	But they had a version of COPS in Canada.
	But the Canadian version was just so boring, because it was essentially, if you watch it, it was called...
	And the name of the show was Protect and Defend.
	Mounties.
	And it was nothing but...
	I didn't.
	I mostly took place in either Vancouver or one of these, uh, you know, Western provinces.
	And the, uh, is essentially guys rousting drunks that were passed out in the alley.
	Yeah.
	Well, you know, they poke them with the baton and say, Hey, Hey, get up.
	Hey, get up.
	Hey, it's so funny.
	Remember we were talking about how...
	The psychopaths seem to be running the country.
	And I'm so convinced that these pedophile networks are rampant throughout the justice system.
	Maybe you saw a little blurb about this in the States, but it's been front page, top of the news here.
	Gary Glitter.
	Have you heard about this?
	You know who Gary Glitter is?
	I've heard his name, but now you're going to have to bring me up to speed.
	I don't know any of this.
	Gary Glitter was in the 70s.
	He was the quintessential glam rocker.
	And he had this huge hit.
	He had a number of hits, but his biggest hit worldwide was...
	Do you want to touch me?
	Or I want to touch...
	I'll get to it.
	Hold on.
	Anyway, so he was convicted...
	A couple years ago, they found inappropriate pictures on his computer, one of those deals where he took it to get it repaired, and then the repair guy finds all these pictures, which I'm always suspicious of anyway.
	So...
	He got busted for having underage porn on his computer.
	And then he left the country.
	He said he was framed for that.
	That's irrelevant.
	He said he was framed for that and he didn't want to register with a sex offender's register.
	So he said, I'm leaving.
	So he left for Vietnam.
	I think it's Vietnam, yeah.
	Or Cambodia.
	Maybe both.
	But then essentially, the news of the world, which is the huge, very, like 9 million people a week read, or per issue, which is a weekly, read the news of the world.
	It's a Murdoch thing.
	Owned by Murdoch.
	Same company that owns The Sun.
	And so they went to wherever he was staying, and they photographed him with a 14-year-old girl on the back of his motorcycle.
	So they basically got him into this huge, huge scandal over there, and then they paid off some witnesses to either talk or not talk, whatever.
	He went to jail.
	He went to jail for a significant amount of time, I think a year and a half maybe.
	And so now he's out, and he's come back to Britain.
	But just the amount of attention and the amount of scorn thrown at this guy, you know, it just, to me, it ekes everything of...
	Because if you look at all the stuff they don't investigate, like the links I've sent you in the past that just aren't investigated, those people that are listed, and we're talking big bankers, we're talking police chiefs, justice chiefs, all kinds of people involved across Europe, which I'm convinced, Madeline McCann, same thing, ordering kids.
	Really on demand.
	And I think this is just like a huge thing to say, yo, we're really big on this kind of stuff, and we're nailing this guy to the stake.
	It just feels all wrong.
	And obviously, if the guy did it, he did it.
	If he's convicted, I guess he was guilty.
	But it just feels so wrong to me.
	It feels like there's a lot of shit going on that is...
	Smoke screen.
	Big time smoke screen.
	That's really my feeling, yeah.
	Have you Googled Gary Glitter by now?
	I'm sure you have.
	Actually, I was looking at that fat kids thing.
	Oh, isn't that just freaky?
	It's unbelievable.
	Family's guilty of neglect.
	Obviously, I think I was feeding somebody too much food neglect.
	I'm not getting that.
	Or the wrong food.
	But of course, you can't buy healthy food anymore.
	And television, there's no commercial going...
	Make some healthy food tonight.
	No, it's all, I'm loving it.
	Have another McNugget.
	Yeah, no, that's, I mean, who's, yeah, right, right.
	Who's responsible?
	Let's get to the source of the problem.
	Yeah, who's responsible for this?
	Which is that crappy food, you know, the food supply being toxic, rather than just, you know, well, you're eating too much of the toxic food.
	But John, I'm telling you, something went wrong.
	This is the Lisbon Treaty, because I've read this thing.
	In the Lisbon Treaty, one of the big problems I have about the Human Rights Convention...
	That is attached to the Lisbon Treaty, which was not ratified, or has not yet been put into effect because Ireland said no, but almost every other country, except, interestingly, I think Poland, has not ratified it.
	Yeah, but not by public vote.
	Well, no, it won't be...
	But, you know, the Pole and some other guy, I can't remember.
	Anyway, so there are a couple of countries still holding out, but it was supposed to be ratified.
	But in that human rights document, it literally says...
	That, you know, under the right to freedom, yes, you've got the right to freedom, but here are a couple of exceptions.
	By the way, if you're a hobo, if you are a drunk, a drug addict, or mentally unstable, they can incarcerate you if this gets passed and gets put into law.
	And it literally states the government will have the right to remove your children if you are not educating them properly.
	Hmm.
	And I think that they just popped this one a little too soon.
	Oh shit, the Lisbon Treaty was supposed to be enforced by now.
	But they're just acting like it is.
	How can this be?
	How can the government ever have the right just because your kid is fat?
	Obese is an illness.
	It can be a behavioral illness.
	There's a lot going on there.
	But taking the kid away, putting it into protective service doesn't sound like a solution.
	Fucking nuts.
	It's ridiculous.
	Let's just cut to the chase.
	But I think we're going to be seeing this shit happening in the States, too.
	Well, they kind of did that.
	You know, there's a controversy going on in the U.S. after they grabbed all those kids from the guy in Texas.
	It was a Mormon cult.
	By the way, the irony of this is a report that came out recently.
	I don't know if we blogged this one or not, but it turns out that being polyamorous, in other words, having multiple wives is healthier for you to live longer.
	I've been telling my wife that for years.
	She's just not buying it.
	Not buying it.
	Most of the women don't seem to go for it.
	But anyway, so they took all these kids, and then it turns out, because they were being abused, and then the courts found that they weren't being abused.
	There was nothing going on.
	There was no sex with the kids or any of this stuff.
	But then the protective services people in Texas said, no.
	We're going to keep them anyway.
	I know.
	I know.
	And then the judge says, no, you're not.
	You're giving them back.
	And then they said, no, we're not giving them back.
	I don't care what the courts say.
	And so now there's this weird battle going on between these creeps from the, you know, protective custody, these maniacs.
	What is going on?
	And the public at large is weird.
	What is going on?
	Only the right-wingers, by the way, I have to give them credit on this one, were on this.
	The regular media were, you know, including people, you know, that were, just the regular media, has not to harp on this.
	It's a bad thing.
	They think it's okay.
	There is a socialistic undercurrent within these societies, even though it's fascistic in the way, the form it takes, to really let the government do all this stuff.
	You have to be able to, we want the government to teach the kids.
	We don't want homeschooling.
	They tried to do that in California.
	And, of course, all these homeschoolers, there were already too many of them.
	Then, essentially, they had to back off on that.
	But you know what they're trying to do.
	Yeah, they're trying to make your kids dump.
	Put them in a dumb school with dumb curriculum with dumb teaching.
	Yeah, exactly.
	Keep you freaking dumb.
	And here's the history, kids.
	Here's how it works.
	He cut down the cherry tree.
	These books have to go through committees so everybody with a special interest can approve.
	Oh, no, no, that's not good.
	You can't say that about the Spanish.
	Yeah, exactly.
	And this is a girl who does some production work for me.
	She grew up in Germany.
	And I can't retell it, but she told me the way that she was taught how World War II happened.
	And how she was taught in Germany in grade school.
	A little different, I might add.
	Just a little.
	Well, apparently the Japanese have a real skewed interpretation to this day.
	So there you go.
	The thugs are all, like, educating our kids with crap.
	Or at least unbalanced.
	Yeah, it's totally unbalanced.
	We're supposed to be teaching our kids how to think.
	Let me tell you, my daughter, she was on to this.
	She was so on to this.
	She said, I want to go to public school when we moved here.
	She's been to a mix of private schools and public schools.
	She's like, I really want to go to public school when we move to the UK. And Guilford is a pretty affluent place.
	First of all, it's just a mess.
	The whole school, the schooling system is a mess.
	The headmaster has no authority, can't do anything, won't do anything.
	But then she comes home and she says, Dad, they're teaching me shit.
	It's absolute dumb.
	And that's a big problem, I think, of what we're seeing today.
	And you must be seeing it with your kids.
	I don't know if they're in private or public school, but they're just not buying it.
	Oh, you know, the skepticism level is extremely high with my kids.
	Yeah, see, good.
	That's good.
	Bless them.
	These are son children.
	In fact, my son, who's about to graduate from Evergreen, which is kind of a left-wing school, which turns out not to be developing left-wing thinkers.
	They tend to be very conservative.
	Common University.
	He's gotten into reading what he talks about as forbidden texts.
	There's a lot of older books and references that have all kinds of built-in weird biases and stuff, but there's a lot of good information in there, but they won't let anyone read this stuff because there'd be some racist kind of angle to it because it was written in 1880.
	It was so funny.
	I was talking with Patricia about this yesterday.
	I said, do you think that...
	Do you remember when the miniseries Roots came on television?
	Yeah.
	Alex Haley, is it?
	Alex Haley's Roots?
	And I was thinking, that would never air on regular broadcast television ever today, by today's politically correct standards.
	That's an interesting question.
	Because, you know, because I was giving an example of how enslaved we are, and I said, you know, what's the difference between this, my example, and Toby B. Good Nigamassa, which is exactly the language that they used in that movie.
	I remember watching it.
	On television and, you know, being shocked at the history and what was happening, but not being shocked by the language.
	And I said, you know, I bet you that that could not air on broadcast television today.
	That's how far we've come with restrictive speech when it comes to history.
	History, my God!
	Well, then there's also the other things that are kind of unique situations, and I think one example is the attempt by Bill Cosby to buy up every copy you can find of every Amos and Andy radio broadcast done in the 40s and destroy them.
	But that's so wrong.
	I mean, whether something's racist or not, you shouldn't try to destroy history that way.
	Bill, just go erase something on Wikipedia, man.
	It'll make you feel better.
	But don't try to do that.
	I'm sorry.
	Anyway, it's just a situation that's...
	It's intolerable.
	And the problem is there's not enough free thinkers out there.
	Most people won't think for themselves.
	They just assume let somebody tell them what to do and then, you know, if they happen to be on the jury when your trumped up case comes to pass and you've been framed so they can get you out of the picture and they put you up there, the jurors are going to find you guilty because this guy said you did it.
	There'll be no thought whatsoever.
	Holy crap.
	What?
	We're going to hell in a handbasket.
	There's another phrase we need to revitalize.
	That's a good one.
	What does it mean?
	Hell in a handbasket.
	I don't know.
	I have this thing.
	I have the logo for it already.
	I haven't started implementing it, but I wanted to start doing some stuff on my blog to bring back, because we've done this with the phrase, cripes.
	Right, cripes, yes, yes.
	To bring back some of these older, these things that people used to say, you know, that were epithets or they were a cover-up for, you know, they didn't want to cuss.
	And so they made these things, cripes is...
	We believe it's probably coming from the word Christ.
	But it was not offensive.
	But it's such a funny term to see in print.
	And so we've been using it as a theme phrase.
	And I'm starting to see it picked up here and there.
	It's a meme phrase.
	Going to hell in a handbasket, according to Wikipedia, or going to hell in a handcart is an English alternative phrase of unclear origin, describing something or situation.
	Then how can it be an alternative?
	Yeah, well, it's Wikipedia, dude.
	There are similar phrases going back over 400 years, such as to heaven in a wheelbarrow.
	Oh, that may be the alternative.
	So you're going to heaven in a wheelbarrow, you're going to hell in a handbasket.
	Oh, perhaps mocking a reference to the guillotine.
	That would make sense.
	You're going to hell in a handbasket.
	There you go.
	Because your head would be in the basket.
	Oh, that's good.
	I like it.
	Oh, now I'm liking it even more.
	You're going to hell in a handbasket, John.
	Your head and mine.
	And a third one for my ego.
	So anyway, there's a bunch of these phrases out there that a lot of them can't be revitalized.
	I mean, the one that we bring up once in a while is, you know, my mother used to say this all the time.
	She'd come into my room when I was a little kid and she'd go, oh, your room's a mess.
	It looks like the wreck of the Hesperus.
	Oh, that's a good one.
	And so that was around.
	I'm thinking, the wreck of the Hespers.
	Why is she even saying this?
	Was that a shipwreck or something?
	Well, it was either Wikipedia or one of these things.
	It was a few years ago.
	I'm digging around, and I go to this thing, and there's a photo.
	I guess it was this boat wrecked.
	And there was a photo of the, which I guess was in all the newspapers back in the 20s or 30s or whenever the wreck of the Hesperus took place.
	And you look at it and you go, oh my god, it is the biggest mess you can imagine.
	So and then I understood it all.
	You know, it all became clear.
	Makes sense.
	Makes sense.
	Anyway, but I'm going to start to see if we can get kind of a canonical listing of all these older kind of things people used to say.
	I'm trying to stay away from the ones from the 60s because I don't want groovy coming back or oh wow or bummer and people still say that.
	We've talked about this.
	We've talked about blood on the moon and we talked about that one?
	No.
	No, that's a big one to my family.
	Adam Curry.
	Oh yeah, maybe we did.
	Adam Clark Curry, if you do that, it's going to be blown away.
	Well, you also have the other one that your mom puts it...
	What was the one that I said one way into it?
	That's a bunch of...
	No, it was a derivative of a crock of shit.
	It was a crock of crap, I think.
	No, that's a...
	I don't know.
	It'll come out automatically when I need to say it.
	I don't know what it is now.
	What a bunch of crock.
	That's what it is.
	What a bunch of crock.
	Bunch of crock.
	Yeah.
	It's like, what?
	Last story?
	You got one?
	Mm-hmm.
	I got a lot, man.
	I'm becoming like weirdo central.
	It's not hard.
	It's good for the business.
	You know what it is?
	It's the drop.io thing.
	By the way, let me just promote this.
	Let's see if it works with our show.
	Drop.io slash noagenda.
	That's where you want to put stuff.
	Right now, I've just been using it to kind of put some links for stuff I want to talk about with John.
	Now you can use it.
	Drop.io slash noagenda.
	Okay.
	So I saw this report on Fox News, which of course made me laugh because I'd already heard this before.
	I'm like, alright, now they're trying it out.
	But then CNET starts reporting on it.
	This is about the FBI being able to tap your cell phone even if it's off.
	You've not heard this?
	No.
	You're kidding me.
	Hence the long pause, the long silent pause of befuddlement.
	That is interesting.
	Well, I've been hearing this for months, maybe a year or so.
	And I'm always like, you know, that just sounds so completely unreasonable.
	Because either you're at the chip level in all these phones, or you're at the OS level, and you've got Windows Mobile and Symbian and whatever Apple's running on.
	I'm like...
	In the report, they expressly say, you keep hearing it, the only way to not enable the FBI to listen in to whatever has happened, and the CNET story actually goes into the legality of it, and why it's legal, and why it's been explained as legal by the Department of Justice.
	I'm sending you the link right now.
	But the only way to stop it is to actually take the battery out.
	Which, of course, for you iPhone users...
	Maybe that tells you something about Apple's relationship to the government.
	Well, how about Apple's relationship to AT&T? Right, which by the way, AT&T was busted up and then the next thing you know it was kind of reformed, almost like one of those monsters in the Terminator movie.
	Reformed, SBC bought all these other companies, but the next thing you know they changed their name to AT&T. And they take over that building in San Francisco.
	There's a building on 2nd.
	It's a huge building.
	It's near me.
	I mean, I can almost spit on it.
	I have pictures.
	Every time I go by, I always have a camera with me.
	I'm always shooting pictures of that thing.
	Imagine a huge block of cinder with no windows.
	It's a big giant cube that most of the windows are covered by metal.
	There's not even windows in it.
	I've never seen windows.
	I don't think there's windows.
	It's designed.
	It kind of looks a little gothic-y in a way.
	Not gothic.
	Well, anyway, it's architectured.
	Someone thought about it.
	But it looks like a huge cone of silence.
	And it's big.
	We're not talking about a shack.
	Yeah, it's huge.
	I think it's like 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, about 12, 13 stories high, something like that.
	Anyway...
	That's where, you know, everything, every screwball thing is always traced back to that building.
	That building supposedly is Spook Central for the West Coast and looks like it.
	And it's also, you know, the network control center for AT&T. And so it's an AT&T... Well,
	I'm on the cusp, not the cusp.
	Exactly.
	Wow.
	So the FBI, the technique is called a roving bug and was approved by top U.S. Department of Justice officials for use against the members of a New York organized crime family who were wary of conventional surveillance techniques such as tailing a suspect or wiretapping it.
	And they started doing this apparently on Nextel cell phones, which is what mobsters John Ardito and his attorney Peter Peluso were using.
	Well, this brings up another point, which is that the phones, most of the newer phones, all have speakerphone capabilities, which would be necessary to pick up the room conversation.
	Amplified mics that are adjusted for that, yep.
	Yeah.
	Which makes sense now.
	But what I don't understand is how, you know, the FISA bill, I mean, that's all about foreigners.
	Now they're listening to mobsters.
	I mean, it just, it's weird.
	The whole story's weird.
	It came out across a whole bunch, you know, there must have been a press release that I certainly didn't get.
	But you read that CNET story, it's pretty in-depth about, you know, how it works.
	I mean, you can buy cell phones these days that have that shit in there and you can call the number and it'll, I mean, the software is certainly available, but I mean, is Nokia letting that happen?
	You know, is Apple maybe, but is Microsoft letting that happen?
	And now that I think of it, yeah, fuck it.
	They're all in it together.
	Well, you know, Microsoft has little choice.
	Nokia, they don't have to do what anybody tells them.
	They're in Finland, for God's sake.
	Yeah, who knows?
	Big company.
	Yeah, but interesting.
	Interesting.
	But I like the Apple thing where you can't take the battery out.
	And now we know why.
	BBC article from 2004 reported...
	And they did a deal with Wade.
	They also did a long-term deal with AT&T. And everyone's always...
	And everybody in the community is baffled by this, by the way.
	Why?
	Because all those commies are using damn iPhones, John.
	So I think if this is actually a fact, it's got to be a fix for it.
	I mean, there's no way that some guy out there who knows how to code can't write a little piece of code that would just go in there and disable.
	Well, the first thing we need to do is write a little piece of code that actually is able to track and find out if something was activated, like a log.
	Because this could be at the chip level.
	Where is it coming from?
	I just don't see how they can do this uniformly.
	I agree with you.
	But there's another trick.
	Anyone out there who wants to code something or thinks they know the hook that's in there, here's what I would recommend.
	Since most of these things play music now, I think that you should not really disable the function.
	But you should be able to monitor it so when it is turned on for whatever reason, it plays an MP3. Namely, it's a small, small world, that Disney tune.
	Through the system and into the spooks.
	Yeah, that's funny.
	That would be a good one.
	Three more days till Halloween, Halloween, Halloween.
	Oh, you don't know the movie.
	Sorry.
	Rough reference.
	It's really bad when you start singing.
	Yeah.
	Hello?
	I'm just taking in the compliments and enjoying them for a moment, John.
	No, it's really bad.
	I mean bad in the sense that it's bad.
	It's good.
	You're not buying that, huh?
	No.
	And I think I'm pretty tapped out.
	Another bank went belly up.
	Kansas Bank just failed today.
	Yeah, if you're going to be involved with a bank failure, you want to be in early.
	It's that way you get your money.
	Yeah.
	Well, this is a very small bank.
	When the whole system goes down, then they'll cancel the insurance.
	I think that's where it's headed, man.
	The system is in meltdown.
	I know you're saying it's not going to happen that way, but...
	It's the bottom.
	It's all bottom.
	I can just feel the bouncing, bing, bing, bing, hitting the rocks.
	I mean, for the dollar, the economy, for what?
	Everything.
	Everything.
	This is the worst case scenario.
	We're going to go through it right now.
	Yeah, but it has to get even worse.
	There's just no way about it.
	Derivatives, man.
	Look, remember I told you about the auction rate securities?
	Do you remember how long ago that was?
	That's been fixed.
	It's fixed.
	That's fixed now?
	It wasn't a cheap fix.
	And so now, derivatives.
	It's something like $500,000.
	Trillion.
	No, 500,000 billion, which is 500 trillion dollars.
	There you go.
	500 trillion dollars of derivatives of which 2% is covered.
	That's next.
	People are calling for an exchange for transparency for the counterparty in all these swaps, these credit default swaps.
	This is huge, John.
	I'm telling you, this is what's next.
	That's really going to blow it all up.
	That's going to make some big boys fall.
	And look at Lehman.
	They can't sell their real estate portfolio, their coveted real estate portfolio.
	They tried to sell half the company to the Chinese who walked away at the last moment.
	They're going to need to get more money.
	Well, they get it from, you know, the boys in Washington.
	Hey, by the way, I'm looking at this.
	I'm still looking.
	Sorry, I'm preoccupied with the cell phone thing.
	Clearly, you don't give a shit about me telling you that it's all coming to a grind.
	Well, you've been saying this.
	You say this every week, so it's not like I haven't heard it before.
	And you're not the only one, by the way.
	I got two or three other people that are telling me the same thing.
	And all I'm hearing is bottom.
	This is all bottom talk.
	Okay.
	Anyway, is that this is another good reason to use burners.
	What?
	The disposable cell phone, the cheap phone, you buy it at the store for $25 and you put some minutes on it and who cares?
	Well, of course, what's the Google Android phone going to be all about?
	Is that going to be completely clear and free or is it going to be completely hyped up and ready to rock to track your every move?
	Well, the way Google is, it's probably going to track your every move whether the government's involved or not.
	Yeah, true.
	Yeah, you're right.
	God, you're right.
	Those guys do track everything, don't they?
	Well, it's all part of the sales thing.
	I turned off my search history, but you know they still got it.
	And now they're promoting the Web Accelerator?
	That's a nice proxy.
	That's a CIA thing if I've ever heard of one.
	Hey, just point your browser and all your traffic to this webaccelerator.google.com and we'll make it faster.
	Sure.
	And slurp everything out.
	I mean, what an experiment that's got to be, huh?
	Yeah.
	Well, there's got to also be...
	There's a lot of these, by the way, which, you know, to get into the technical side, there's a bunch of these...
	Most of the phone companies want you to use various proxies or special TCPIP stacks so you can get your full range of speeds if you have fiber, for example.
	And I think those need to be looked at.
	Okay, John.
	Well, we're looking forward to next week because you'll have the report.
	Yeah, and so what will make you...
	I mean, besides...
	Of course, the only question I'm going to ask is what kind of ice cream do you like?
	Because it's supposed to come back with strawberry.
	Yep.
	Right?
	Yes.
	But what would make you a believer of a true extraterrestrial encounter?
	Um...
	Probably nothing.
	But, you know, I think you're going to meet this guy and quickly determine whether or not, I mean, what level of insanity we're dealing with here.
	Because let me just say this for the record.
	You're not meeting an alien.
	You're meeting some person who says he's an alien.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Ergo, saying you do not believe in extraterrestrial life forms or UFOs or anything of the like.
	No, I do think there are UFOs, and I think there's probably some explanation for them, but I'm not buying a bunch of, you know, green men roaming around or grays or...
	No, Pleiadians are tall, I think.
	They're kind of Nordic-looking.
	Yeah, I'm sure.
	Because he's probably a Swede.
	Hello, Hans.
	Nice to meet you.
	Olaf, how are you?
	Slip in a foreign phrase and see if, you know...
	The Elskedai.
	Which is, I love you.
	Which is what I do for you, John.
	Alright.
	So, but I, regardless of the encounter, I will not speak to you about it until no agenda next week.
	Okay, and we'll, if there is a show next week.
	If not, you know what to do with me.
	Stick me in your pipe and smoke me.
	Have you seen Adam?
	No, I haven't seen him for a week.
	He just disappeared.
	I'll be buzzing your house on my ship, dude.
	Yeah, well...
	Drop off some seeds.
	Alright.
	Okay, so...
	Well, then I won't talk to you until next week.
	That's it.
	That's done.
	Alright.
	Alright.
	Coming to you from the United Kingdom, my name is Adam Curry.
	And I'm John C. Dvorak here in Northern California.
	Beautiful day.

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