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I'm Heather Mullins, guest hosting for Mike today.
And, you know, I was just thinking as I was watching that intro video, just how much do we love Mike Lindell?
I mean, honestly, I just, I like, I feel like I haven't spoken to him in a little bit, but I'm such, so honored to be able to host this show for him because he truly is one of America's greatest patriots.
So make sure you go to that link down there, mypillowtrial.com, and check out everything that Mike Lindell has to offer at his website because he truly is a remarkable person.
Moving on, though, someone who also appreciates Mike Lindell as much as I do is joining me on the show today.
Please welcome Neil Johnson, the host of Lumberjack Logic and one of the top pillow salesmen in America.
That's right.
Buy your pillows.
Mike's not on here anymore to promote his pillows.
So why don't you do it for him?
Let's take a quick minute, Neil, to tell our viewers how amazing the My Pillow products really are.
You know, my favorite product is the Giza Sheets.
I go on about them all the time.
I know it's Trump's favorite product too, but just if you don't have Giza Sheets, go get some.
You're missing out if you don't have them.
Yeah.
You know what?
You know what I actually really like now?
And it's dog and cat approved are the pet beds that they have.
So I got one of the dog beds and I'm actually going to be putting together a little promo package for you guys because there's a ton of us over here at Lindell TV that we have these pet products and all of our pets used them.
So I'm having everybody send me pictures of their pets with the products.
But I got this dog bed for my dog.
And I swear to God, Neil, every day my cat is on it.
And so like I walk into my living room and there on the cat or on the dog bed is the cat.
So I'm like, so apparently is it a cat bed?
Is it a dog bed?
I don't know, but it's approved by both and they really are great.
So go check out mypillow.com and check out the pet products.
So and the Giza sheets, which Neil loves.
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So we want to support Mike while we're while we're filling in for Mike.
I don't want to forget to promote those incredible products over there on the website, but that's not why we're here today, Neil.
We're here because we got some big news.
We're going to start with Minnesota because that's where you're based out of alongside Mike.
We're going to play a quick clip here from Tom Holman on some recent changes made to the ICE operations there.
Take a listen.
Given this increase in unprecedented collaboration and as a result of the need for less law enforcement officers to do this work in a safer environment, I have announced effective immediately we will draw down 700 people affected today.
700 law enforcement personnel.
During our efforts to identify and implement improvements of how operations are planned, conducted, and managed, we identified a gap in regard to the use of body-worn cameras.
This was actually raised by the workforce when I started walking around talking to people here.
Some officers and agents had them, some didn't.
That inconsistency was unacceptable.
So we moved immediately to prioritize full body camp deployment in the city.
I discussed this with Secretary Noam a couple days ago, and she made the decision to deploy them.
The plan is to deploy them nationwide, but it's a priority for the city right now.
Again, this is smarter enforcement, not less enforcement.
For those who are not a national security threat or public safety risk, you are not exempt from immigration enforcement actions.
If you're in the country legally, you are not off the table.
And let me be clear, President Trump fully intends to achieve mass deportations during this administration, and immigration enforcement actions will continue every day throughout this country.
And there you have it.
So, Neil, explain that for us.
Because before you joined me on the show today, we were talking and you said that, you know, because there are some people freaking out, like, why pull those 700 people, you know, out of there?
But he pointed out there's some collaboration going on.
So can you explain what the collaboration is a little better?
Well, so we had the policy in Minneapolis, well, in many counties of Minnesota, where they were not cooperating with ICE on detainers, were not turning over the criminals to ICE when they arrested them.
And now they're getting cooperation never seen before out of Minnesota jails.
So that's a big thing.
And, you know, you're not going to need as many enforcement officers.
You think about it takes one person to go in a jail or two people to go into the jail, take somebody out of a secure facility that's already cuffed and ready for you, as opposed to 20 agents going in on a very volatile and dangerous mission to get an illegal alien out of a house.
So it's actually very good news.
And those resources can be deployed elsewhere.
Don't forget, too, I think it's we're up to somewhere around 10,000 arrests in Minnesota already.
So they've done a lot of heavy lifting.
So, you know, it's probably just time to reallocate resources.
I mean, I don't see this as some big setback, honestly.
I mean, I just don't see it that way.
Yeah, I mean, there are some people, though, that think that, you know, when we look at the numbers that we were told came into this country, I mean, I was down there at the border under the Biden administration where I saw probably 400 come across in less than an hour, right?
You have that going on, not just for the four years under Biden, but you had it going on under the Obama administration as well.
So, you know, we have so many people that we that are here in this country illegally that I think that some people are just concerned, like why, like that's what they want their resources to go to, you know, is to rounding up these people.
I mean, the collaboration, I guess, at the state level is good.
We want law enforcement.
Do you think that has like we want local law enforcement to work with federal law enforcement?
Do you think that has something to do with the fraud scandal that came out there that now we're seeing Governor Tim Walz or other officials maybe having conversations behind the scenes?
I mean, I don't want to say it, but are they cutting some deals?
Like, okay, we'll work with you on this if we like, like, why now are they deciding to work with the Trump administration?
You know, I honestly do believe that they could not allow what was going on to continue to go on.
So as much as the press tried to paint this as bad for the Trump administration, and certainly, I mean, you know, if you're going to be realistic about this, we have seen polling numbers out for ICE that are less than what they were before, although the majority of Americans still want ICE around.
Oh, we're back on here.
So, yeah, I don't know.
I cut out there, but yeah, so I think I don't, I don't fully know what the situation is, but I will say that, you know, if I had to choose, right, if I was forced to choose between, okay, we're going to get a criminal illegal who has raped a, you know, 15-year-old girl out of the country or the cook down at the, you know, Tia Locos or whatever, I'm going to choose the former, right?
And ultimately, I think we want that to be the highest priority, although we want to deport all the people who are here illegally.
The first and foremost is to get those criminal illegals out of here, the ones that have created that committed the heinous acts.
All right.
Well, sorry about that.
I think I had a quick tech issue, but yeah, let's see, what do we got here?
Sorry, I had a quick tech issue.
Well, so as far as ICE operations go in Minneapolis, Neil, do you anticipate that going forward, like some of the, you know, riots and that organized sort of network of people that were, you know, stalking?
I mean, like some government officials were implicated in that, if I, if I'm not mistaking.
Like when that journalist had infiltrated the, was it was it signal that they were using like signal chats or something like that?
There were some government officials implicated in that.
So what is the status update as far as accountability for that?
I mean, like, was that legal for a state government to sort of create this organized infrastructure to stalk and harass not just ICE agents, but innocent citizens of Minnesota that were just happening to be driving, you know, a truck that they thought looked suspicious.
They were, you know, tailing people.
They were making people get out of their car.
They were asking them to show identification as if they were law enforcement.
And these are just random people that are being dispatched like rogue cops.
And some government officials in Minnesota were a part of that organization.
So do you anticipate any sort of charges or investigation into that whole scandal?
Well, there definitely should be.
Heather, what's really interesting is it's got even more brazen.
So in Minnesota, we had these quote unquote secret signal chat groups, right?
And we had government officials.
I mean, city councilmen, apparently the lieutenant governor of Minnesota and various others that were involved in all of this.
But now I want you to look out to New York where Kathy Hochle is actually setting up a database of tracking for the state.
Go to Virginia where they're going full tilt on non-cooperation with ICE.
So the Democrats have not become less brazen, less emboldened.
They've actually become more so.
And until we see people held accountable for these actions, that's what we will continue to see.
Because it is clearly, I mean, you don't have to go far to read the U.S. code and see that it is criminally, you are criminally liable for harboring illegal aliens.
And that's exactly what they're doing.
Not only are they harboring to impede with law enforcement for their removal is also a crime.
These are serious federal crimes actually punishable by years in jail.
Yeah.
No, and you know, one thing that I was just thinking about as you were talking is that, like, I know for me personally, it's like, I want to see people held accountable.
I want to see arrests happen so that it, you know, serves as a deterrent for this kind of behavior in the future.
But at the same time, I'm reminded that President Trump walked into like a mountain of corruption, right?
And he only has so many days, so many, so many hours, so much time.
And so what dawned on me is with that recent FBI raid down there in Fulton County, the election warehouse there, and with, you know, the chairman there, Rob Pitts, was saying he had a source tell him arrests are coming.
It makes me think that for President Trump's administration, one of the biggest priorities that they're going after is the election integrity, right?
Which would make sense because if you can solve in the short term the issue of election fraud and stolen elections, then even if at some point your reign ends down there at the White House, you've now given Americans back the ability to choose who we put in next.
And so it really is from a priority standpoint, it gives me hope that he is prioritizing the election integrity above everything.
I mean, if that's the only arrests we end up seeing in the first two years, I'll take it, right?
Like, I do want to just make that point because I know as we do see all this other stuff happening, to your point, there are only so much resources that we have.
And there's also only so much time that we have, right?
Like the clock is ticking, and we may only have the House and Senate for another what year if we lose it in the midterms.
And then that'll be, you know, a problem in the second half of the Trump term.
So if he's prioritizing elections now, I think that's a good sign, Neil.
What do you think?
Well, obviously, I mean, you know, I got into this whole podcasting business just because of election fraud.
And that's what got me in in November of 2020.
So obviously, I think it is the most crucial issue because every other issue that we hold near and dear to our hearts, and I don't care whether that's abortion, whether it's criminal legal aliens, whatever that issue is, you can't get anywhere if you can't even vote and have your vote count the way it's supposed to count.
And now we're seeing down in Fulton County that even CNN is forced to cover what's going on.
And it's an uncomfortable truth that they're having to deal with the fact that these ballots were counted twice and people are coming on their show.
And now we know more and the whole set of facts surrounding Georgia is actually laid out more clearly.
So we're able to look at this now and point these things out.
And you're seeing people on CNN talking about this.
And now the liberals are getting a kind of a wake-up call to what's really going on.
One of the things that I think happens in news cycles is that we can tend to lose sight of the facts and then it can all get kind of muddled, right?
So, and you think about this, if you're just an average consumer of news, okay, I mean, let's take the Epstein files, for instance, right?
Whoopee Goldberg has just been implicated actually asking to fly on the jet to utilize Epstein's jet to get to a fundraiser hosted by John Lennon.
And John Lennon was supposed to pay for the jet.
This is all in the tranche of Epstein stuff.
Well, so we now have a point, a thing where you've got the left are going, oh, well, you know, Whoopee's good.
And then, you know, the right will be saying, you know, this person's good and so on, whatever.
And what's lost in it is the actual accountability for the victims.
And that's the same thing that happens with election fraud because as we muddy the waters and as we go on and try and make it a right-left issue, which it isn't.
This is an America issue.
I mean, if we don't have free elections, I don't care if you're on the right or the left.
Neither, none of our voices count.
So, you know, we can't lose the actual reality of how much this means to us.
Yeah, 100%.
I couldn't have said it better.
And I'm glad you brought up the Epstein files because I did want to bring up this tweet.
There's so many people recently that have been implicated in some of these files.
You get to sift through them.
And I do want to remind everyone, like, just because a file says something doesn't necessarily make what is being said in that file true.
These files are part of an investigation.
But, you know, obviously there are people that could have said things, could have emailed things that, you know, like, I guess somebody had mentioned to me that at one point it reached where like anyone could send in emails to be a part of this.
So like they could have gotten information that may or may not have been like accurate.
Right.
So just to point that out, but there is this tweet that TMZ founder Harvey Levin is named in the Epstein files, described as a good friend who could help run a global PR effort to defend convicted pedophile Jeffrey Epstein and smear his victors and accusers.
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Apparently, TMZ has stayed quiet on all of this, but you have, you know, celebrities being named in the files, Jay-Z to be one of them.
He's, you know, been accused and implicated in some very serious things.
So I just wanted to kind of get your take on sort of the Hollywood tie-in to the Epstein files, because a lot of big names coming out and then the Hollywood entertainment media landscape sort of staying quiet here, Neil.
Well, the only thing I can tell you is I actually have some contacts in the music industry and have had conversations with them.
And we hear about this, you know, creating like a trap with underage, or it might just be like some sort of thirst trap and then getting that on film, right?
And then that being used as leverage to blackmail those people.
We hear about this kind of loosely in society.
And from the people I've talked to in the entertainment industry, that's real.
I mean, that's the only thing I know.
I mean, from the people I've talked to, they actually do this.
And I, you know, it's interesting.
I was and people are so, I don't know, almost complex and bizarre.
I won't name names here, but my friend was videoing for a big name rapper, okay, a big name rapper.
And of course, they've always got the women in bikinis shaking their booties and everything like that.
And there's all kinds of raunchy stuff going on.
Well, it turns out somebody on the set insulted Jesus and the rapper freaked out on him and got into a fistfight with him over Jesus while he's having the booty shaking women and the sex parties afterwards.
I don't know.
I mean, people are weird.
Yeah.
Well, it's hard to understand because it's almost like they made a deal with the devil in order to have their fame and their fortune, right?
Like, cause I think that's what we're kind of see where I've long said Hollywood is a cult, right?
It's like demonic, like you go in, like these kids go in young and they're so innocent and sweet and talented and they come out as they grow up in Hollywood.
They end up on stage in the lingerie worshiping Satan.
It's just what Hollywood does to people is so disgusting.
And I want to put this tweet from Nikki Minaj, right?
That's sort of like hearing it out of her mouth really sort of vindicates everything I've thought and felt based on what I've seen and like the little nuggets of information of like the people in Hollywood that were trying to get the truth out.
Let's just put this tweet up because there's no other way to explain this.
I'll just let read it out loud here.
Nikki said, Your favorite artist has been practicing rituals in a satanic cult where they take babies from other countries, mutilate, and kill them as a form of blood sacrifice to their God.
You see, when your master is Satan, you must constantly shed blood.
However, the jig is up.
Now, this is straight out of the mouth kneel of one of Hollywood's biggest A-list celebrities.
And so, for her to say that, when a lot of people were like a lot of us, like myself, oh, you're a conspiracy theorist if you say Hollywood's run by elite pedophiles.
But now, hearing it from somebody who lived through that, it's like, okay, glad we're all on the same page because we need to end this.
We need to get back to winning the culture war and getting rid of the demonic, disgusting, it's truly satanic.
I mean, like, what's she saying that they're mutilating kids?
I mean, people need to go to jail for that.
It's much bigger than just the culture war.
It's like these are crimes being committed behind the scenes.
And now the Epstein files sort of implicating all these Hollywood celebrities.
It's just like, it really makes you wonder, you know?
Well, yeah, I remember when I interviewed Tim Ballard out at the RNC and talked at length with him.
And I mean, you just don't even want to believe this stuff is true.
But we are America, it's sad to say, we are the largest consumer of sex trafficking in the world.
And that's something that we should all be ashamed of as a nation and want to see fixed because it's quite alarming.
I mean, to think that we're the largest consumers of that.
It gives me no great joy to say that.
And I don't know.
The whole at first, when I started hearing about this, I just didn't want to believe it because it seems so bizarre to me that I can't even fathom it.
I mean, I really can't.
I'm like, what?
They're doing what?
With like kids that are eight or kids that are four?
And you're just like, what the hell is going on?
And it's a level of sickness and depravity that's tough to really comprehend.
It's very dark.
It's dark stuff, but I feel like, you know, the truth is the light and the best disinfectant.
So kudos to Nikki Minaj for coming forward and shedding light on this.
I think courage is contagious.
I'm hoping more people caught up in that come out and speak up.
I have a clip too of Kanye.
I just want to show there's a lot of people in the industry, you know, that they're pegged as crazy or they're losing their minds or they end up on drugs and in these rehabs.
And I think a lot of it has to do with just the toxic, cult-like, satanic environment that they're trying to get out of or that they had been a part of.
So take a listen to Kanye West.
They can't control you.
They can't.
They try to suppress you, but that's how they try to categorize.
They can't control me.
You get what I'm saying?
They can control Shaq.
They could control Charles Barkley.
They could control LeBron James.
They can control Jay-Z and Beyonce.
Not on you, man.
But they can't control me.
You see, it ain't no name I won't name.
It's up.
And on you.
You know what I'm saying?
And just for Minister Faircon, I love you.
But the way you read that, I took that as a slight.
You know what I'm saying?
I don't take no disrespect from nobody.
So let's get on the phone.
Let's talk that out.
I don't care who you are.
I ain't taking no slice from nobody, right?
I ain't taking no slice from nobody.
It's God.
That's the only person that I serve.
My mama ain't here.
My mama was sacrificed.
Me too.
You understand?
Yeah.
Michael Jordan.
What about him?
His daddy, right?
Bill Cosby, his son, right?
Dr. Dre, his son.
You know, out in Hollywood, a lot of people come up missing.
Feels like it might be a lot of that in order to control, traumatize.
They want to monetize and traumatize.
And God love me.
You understand?
They hit me.
Gap, Adidas, all that away.
Steal Forbes, who hate me, right?
Had to write net worth 400 million.
Jesus is king.
God love me.
That's more than 40 life.
That's the thing.
You know what I'm saying?
And this truth is going to be heard.
I can't send none of y'all meat males, y'all puppies, y'all little boozies, none of these names.
None of these people that have to listen to y'all because they're dealing with, they have legal.
I never killed nobody, right?
I'm the pussy that never killed nobody.
I never killed anybody.
I mean, like, when you listen to all this stuff and you see, it's not just Kanye.
It's not just Nikki.
We have a tweet we can put up from Kevin Sorbo, right?
This was a tweet that he made originally in 2024.
He said, I didn't get blacklisted from Hollywood.
I left because they're all pedos.
And then he reposted it recently after these Epstein file drops.
And he said, I feel like now is a good time to bring this back.
So, you know, a lot of people involved in Hollywood are really coming out with some demonic, evil, evil stuff.
So, you know, hopefully we see some arrests.
But we did see one arrest, Neil, and that was in New Hampshire, where Jelene Maxwell was arrested.
So we're going to pivot now over to discussing New Hampshire.
And we have joining us Tom Murray, our dear friend.
Oh, he's not on yet.
Actually, give Tom a second.
He will be joining us here shortly.
But Jelene Maxwell arrested in New Hampshire.
And I remember at the beginning of Trump's second term, there were attorneys for the Department of Justice that had gone out, met with her.
They were re-interviewing her.
And now fast forward to today, it's like we had that little kind of Epstein binder gate kind of typical.
You remember that?
But then we finally got these files that are out.
But we actually do have Tom now.
So let's just bring Tom right in here.
Apologies there.
Where do you believe the timing of my webcam going?
So I'm on my phone.
It's so funny.
My laptop had an issue for the first time ever doing this show earlier.
But we just kind of pivoted.
I don't know how much you heard of us talking.
We were kind of cracking open the Epstein stuff.
And then we, you know, brought up how Jelene Maxwell arrested right there in New Hampshire, where we're both from, Tom.
I mean, if that doesn't hit close to home, it makes you wonder why did she pick New Hampshire?
Interesting.
And I don't know the answer to that, but did you see the recent that they have out there that John Snoodu, who's currently running for the New Hampshire senator, apparently is in the Epstein files.
And that's the latest and greatest hitting social media right now.
I just happen to read it, you know.
So it is interesting.
And I think it was a quote in there.
He has good stories.
I don't know what that really infers or means, but I think there was some response from the campaign saying that it's fabricated.
But interesting that you see that name in the Epstein files themselves.
Yeah, well, let me play a quick clip from New Hampshire Governor Kelly Aya, who gave her speech today, Tom.
And then maybe we can get your camera figured out because you're in a three box and we see about half your face right now.
Okay, very strange if I could turn it around.
There he is.
But let's play this.
Oh, there you go.
That's much better.
But let's take a listen to Governor Kelly Ayat, who pretty much, you know, she summarizes that New Hampshire is great and wonderful, sunshine, and rainbows.
We'll take a listen, but then I'll get your thoughts on the other side, Tom.
Absolutely.
I stand before you today, convinced that the state of the state is strong, that our shared prospects for tomorrow are bright, and proud that our work is making New Hampshire even stronger, even safer, and more prosperous than ever before.
I mean, it sounds like it's a New Hampshire utopia.
What do you think, Tom?
I'm not sure if I would agree with that.
This is, you know, it's interesting.
There's a lot of polish in the speech.
You know, Kelly did, you know, a good job in the state of the state.
And there were parts that were sincere.
There were parts that were polished, but there was a lot of them that deserve real discussion.
And, you know, those are some of the major omissions.
And in New Hampshire, you know, what gets left unsaid is often more important than what's said out loud.
And there were quite a few things that weren't talked about.
There were some discussions about a lot of the education was a big one.
We had, you know, law enforcement, obviously, you know, the state police being given significant raises was another one.
Property taxes is a really big one here in New Hampshire.
Where the, unfortunately, our only tax base is local property tax and property taxes are through the roof.
So while she made statements that said that the state budget had not gone up, which is true, that doesn't mean that local property tax didn't go through the roof.
And as it related to education, she did mention that, you know, there were some serious problems with, she brought up the point that her husband was a math teacher and there were problems with the test scores.
But she didn't reveal what those test scores really meant.
And what's really going on and should be alarming and put everyone in, stop everyone in their tracks, all the lawmakers, is that 50% of the kids in New Hampshire can't read at grade level.
And the same is going on for math.
So while there were discussions within her state of the state, there's not a lot of details, you know, with all that stuff that's going on kind of behind the scenes as well.
Yeah, it just feels like oftentimes a lot of these state of the state speeches are really just, you know, their highlight reels.
You're never going to get them to say, oh, we need to fix this.
We need to fix this.
We need to fix this.
It's always like, everything's great.
We're doing such a great job.
The people are amazing.
Basically, like, it's a campaign speech for the next time they run, essentially.
That's what it is.
Yeah, you know, that's exactly what it is.
Like, I'll give you a case, a couple cases in point.
You know, one, she spoke about Marisol Fuentes.
Marisol Fuentes was the individuals who was murdered by her estranged husband, and it was all due to bail reform.
But here's the part that's left out: the bail reform that here's what goes on in New Hampshire.
You make a complaint about a justice, and there were multiple complaints that were made by this woman.
And I know that Executive Counselor John Stevens wanted this judge fired.
And kudos to John Stevens for stepping up and trying to make that happen.
The unfortunate part is, you have a judiciary that runs the judiciary.
They make the rules for themselves.
Now, this wasn't always the case here in New Hampshire until a couple of decades ago.
We added in our Constitution, we amended it to include Article 72A.
And this is where the legislature was stripping of their oversight role of the judiciary.
You know, it kind of reminds me of Patrick Henry.
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Patrick Henry, he said that, you know, I see the checks and balances on the legislative branch.
I see him on the executive branch.
Where are they on the judiciary?
Because my fear is that one day we will find ourselves all living under judicial tyranny.
And in New Hampshire, that's a real concern.
That is a real concern.
And you had a woman that unfortunately lost her life because of that.
To switch over to another example, you know, of like, you know, the polish of a speech, you know, we have extremely high electric rates in New Hampshire.
And the solution was to talk about nuclear power, which is all well and good.
And I think that's a great start.
But unfortunately, you know, that's not going to help your electric bill immediately.
You know, and just to give you guys an example, I live in New Hampshire, southern New Hampshire, and I have a modest house.
I mean, it's a nice house for the area that I live in, but my electric bill was $2,100 a month last month.
I mean, it's more than my mortgage.
I mean, now, I mean, people are paying enormous amounts in utility rates.
And unfortunately, I don't see there's any real like relief in the near future.
I mean, nuclear is decades out.
So, you know, sounds great, but practically, I don't think it solves solutions immediately.
Well, so here's the other thing I want to add to the energy discussion, right?
The technology exists that people could power their homes with all sorts of devices where you wouldn't need to rely on energy companies for your energy, right?
I remember back in 2014, there was a thing called a Bloom Box, and it was Bloom Energy was the name of it.
And Google acquired it, Coca-Cola acquired it.
All these big companies create used these fuel cells that you could basically take methane gases from like a septic tank.
You create these little fuel cells that it converts it into energy to power a home.
Some guy that's like brilliant inventor created it.
And it was like the technology and the device was acquired by all these mega, you know, multi-million billion dollar companies, but like it's not available for the average homeowner.
And so I'm convinced now that whether it's nuclear energy, wind energy, solar energy, you name it, like we're all supposed to be on some grid being able to go through an intermediary to get our energy when the technology really exists that we could all create it on our own.
And I think that's where government needs to start getting back to is passing legislation that allows for the average American to be independent from these energy companies so that we can create our own energy as opposed to having to go through them in their outrageous prices.
Because my energy bill is lower than yours, Tom, but it's still up there, you know?
Yeah, no, no, it's it's funny that you bring up Bloom Energy.
And the reason why I say that's funny, I actually just bought stock in them probably about a month ago, and um, and it's gone through the roof, you know, um, because of exactly what you're speaking to.
It's look, people looking for alternative solutions.
I mean, look, you can only generate so much solar up here in the northeast.
There's probably four hours a day, and I have that.
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Um, you know, sorry, I had to exactly, exactly.
Are you muted, Neil?
I think he may have muted himself somehow because I see.
Oh, I'm sorry.
I think I did that.
I was going to say, Tom, you know, I don't have any electricity bills.
So, you know, there's that.
I mean, I do pay for my gas that I had to put in my generator, but otherwise, my solars just kick in.
My batteries are getting charged.
It's the beauty of being off the grid in rural Minnesota.
Yeah, I think it would probably be more cost-effective for me to run my generator than to pay the utility at this point.
It would.
It's getting pretty ridiculous.
So I feel like if you're paying $2,100, it would.
It would be.
You know, Tom, don't worry.
You're not alone.
I mean, my electricity bills may not be a problem, but our property taxes this year, my property taxes went up 50% in Minnesota, all because of the fraud going on out here.
So, you know, I mean, it's we had recently a reassessment and our property taxes here skyrocketed.
And in fact, you know, that's a real concern here in the state of New Hampshire is because you have people that have grown up here, lived here their entire lives, and they're being forced to make decisions over paying their electric bill, paying their property tax, or buying groceries.
I mean, it's a real thing.
I mean, even in Wynham, where I live, which is, you know, a more affluent community, you know, I'm meeting with a gentleman later on this week to discuss how I can, you know, help with him filing an abatement over the, you know, over the over the taxes so he can stay in his home.
You know, and this kind of goes to the education portion.
70% of your property tax bill is over education.
You have administrators, administrators in school administration units making more than the governor.
And you look at what you're, the money you put in.
It's one thing if our kids were coming home with their test scores through the roofs, but it's just the opposite.
50% can't read a grade level.
50% can't do math at grade level.
I mean, that's a serious, serious concern, but yet we're being asked to pay more than we ever have in property tax.
And situations like that, you know, it's really concerning.
Yeah.
I mean, half of the schools are loaded with teachers that are asking kids their pronouns at the start of the school year.
So it's like, why are we funding something that is literally just creating confusion in our young children?
But we have a race, big race out here in New Hampshire, Neil and Tom.
And as you mentioned earlier, Trump has come out and endorsed John Sununu.
We have a tweet from Trump we can put on there just showing you.
He said, it is my great honor to endorse America first patriot John E. Sununu, who is running to represent the beautiful state of New Hampshire in the U.S. Senate.
John is strongly supported by the most highly respected leaders in New Hampshire and many Republicans in the U.S. Senate, blah, That's enough because I can just tell you as a Trump supporter from the very beginning, as a America First Patriot from the beginning, as a New Hampshire voter, I do not support John Sununu.
How about you, Tom?
No, that's probably something that you're not going to be able to convince me on, is that to circle the oval for a Sununu.
I'm going to probably put my chips in with Mr. Brown.
I can tell you this, I am very in tight with all the Patriot groups all throughout New Hampshire.
And they are, I rate, and I think that's an understatement when I say that of the We the People group, the New Hampshire for Trump group.
I rate with that endorsement that happened.
And I think that just was just misjudgment and bad calculation.
I mean, I don't see John Sununu winning the primary here in New Hampshire.
The MAGA base is 100% against them.
You're not going to convince them, especially with what happened over that executive council meeting years ago.
I know that wasn't John himself, but there's a lot of things, you know, that John takes a beat on, you know, the fact that he worked for the World Economic Forum.
And there's other issues that he's going to have to overcome.
So he's going to have a really difficult time.
And the MAGA base, because of that endorsement, has been completely re-energized.
And now they're putting a full-blown campaign against Sununu for that endorsement.
So it's kind of backfired.
Yeah.
So let's just real quick play this.
Hang on, Neil, one sec.
We're going to put this headline up.
Apparently, Scott Brown is not dropping out of the race despite President Trump's endorsement of Sununu.
He's still going to be in it.
A lot of the MAGA base, although they love Trump, are getting behind Scott Brown.
Neil, what's your take on all of this?
Well, I've had the good fortune of being a temporary resident of New Hampshire many times, going out there and working with Tom, and then also covering the whole election debacle of 2020 and on and on.
I mean, multiple election debacles in Wyndham.
But that all being said, I remember covering Nikki Haley and her run.
And John Sununu was full tilt in Nikki Haley's camp and opposed to Trump.
And John Sununu has a terrible track record.
So I think one of Trump's big things is he always wants to endorse the winner because he wants these endorsements to always reflect that he endorses winners.
But I love Trump, but I sure hope he's proven wrong on this one.
I mean, John Sununu is a terrible choice.
He's not a great human being.
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There's way too much to account on it.
And I got to get ready for another show.
But I'm just so glad you had me on, Heather.
And I got to say my piece about John Sununu, not even being a New Hampshire resident.
But I mean, I get to talk to all these New Hampshire folks too because I'm in, you know, with Tom.
And then I look at the groups and they are pissed.
They are.
They are.
Yeah.
I mean, well, thank you for joining us, Neil.
We'll just end with this last tweet here from one of the New Hampshire Patriots.
His name is Cooch.
He runs that page.
He runs a whole bunch of different Trump trains and everything.
He wrote a long thing where, I mean, you guys can go and read it.
But if you look down there, he posted a screenshot of the union leader, right?
An old headline.
John E. Sununu, Donald Trump is a loser.
So it's really interesting and shocking to a lot of us that this endorsement came down the pipeline.
But thank you both for joining me today.
Thank you for having us.
Thank you.
Looks like we might have lost Neil, but we're going to take a quick break right now.
And when we come back, our guest from All Family Pharmacy joins us.
We'll be right back.
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Thank you for joining us.
Hey, thank you for having me.
Yeah, so this is my first time interviewing you.
And, you know, I'm sure you've been on with Mike many times, but I'm excited to have you on today.
So tell us a little for me particularly, I'm sort of new to the Lindel TV family, but I absolutely love what you guys are doing as far as you know, providing alternative treatments and medicines to people that, you know, were very beneficial during the COVID pandemic.
And a lot of doctors weren't trying to get people access to some of the medicines and things that you sell.
So can you give me a little backstory about like what got you into creating All Family Pharmacy?
Was it pre-COVID pandemic or was that sort of like what you know motivated you to launch it?
Yeah, so the backstrop is, you know, it's a family-owned business.
We started back in 2020, 2020, 2020.
When the pandemic hit, it kind of gave us that opportunity to have conversations with more and more patients around the United States about getting access to crucial medications during the pandemic.
And, you know, those medications were ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine, and some even as simple as just an antibiotic or an inhaler, doctors were not even prescribing.
So we listened a lot to what they wanted and what they were looking for.
And we primarily built our system and our business around what patients needed.
And that was easy access to medications as long as a doctor felt it was necessary for them.
Obviously, we do all of our screening, our health screenings and whatnot for these patients on a daily basis.
So we want to make sure it's safe and effective.
But yeah, we started off by just listening to our patients and seeing what they needed.
They needed a pharmacy that would dispense ivermectin.
They also needed a doctor that wanted to prescribe ivermectin as long as it was safe and effective.
So we actually combined both under one roof and we made it an easy, convenient way to order all of your essential medications.
Yeah, and that's extremely helpful, especially in like my state, for example.
We had a bill that was supposed to make ivermectin available over the counter.
And it passed our house, it passed our senate, and then it got V2'd by our then governor, Chris Sununu, the brother of John Sununu, who's running for Senate here.
We won't get into that.
But, You know, because they required us to have like a doctor to approve the ivermectin, then a lot of the establishment doctors were like, oh no, ivermectin won't work for COVID.
They were sort of like, you know, brainwashed by the pharmaceutical industry, really, to kind of go along to get along.
And it was doctors and people like yourself, pharmacists, etc., that gave us the conduit to still get access to that life-saving treatment.
So, just a hat tip to you on that, we have a soundbite I'd like to get your reaction to of Secretary Kennedy, you know, just sort of announcing this new hospital, this push to have hospitals publish their prices.
So, take a listen to Secretary Kennedy.
Every hospital in the country is now going to have to publish their prices clearly, legibly beforehand.
If you go to buy a car and the guy says, Well, I'm going to sell you the car, but you, I'm not going to tell you the price till after you bought it.
Would you buy it?
If you go to a restaurant and look at the menu, the prices are there.
Healthcare is the only place where you can't see your prices.
You're pregnant in this country.
You can go nine months trying to figure out what how much it's going to cost you to have that baby, and you will not be able to do it in many, many hospital systems.
And so, now you're going to be able to do it.
We already have, I looked at the mock-up of the webpage yesterday, and it was extraordinary.
It showed, I asked the question: How much does it cost to have a baby?
And within a mile of Manhattan, there were 30 hospitals, and they all have different prices.
The lowest price was $1,300, the highest price was $22,000, and everything in between $9,000, $5,000, $7,000 is complete information pricing chaos.
How does that happen?
It happens because there's no marketplace.
So, what's your sort of reaction to that since you're sort of in the business of pricing sort of these treatments and medicines and things like that?
And explain to us, like, what is your process of keeping your prices so low?
Yeah, so I love you know, pricing transparency, right?
That's going to ultimately bring down pricing, especially in the doctors' offices, hospitals.
Transparency is always good to have for our patients.
They're going to see how much their insurance carriers are actually paying, how much the hospitals are actually billing.
Pricing transparency will keep it a competitive market because, in order for a business to compete, they have to have similar pricing, right?
So, that is one thing that we do.
We have competitors ourselves, and that keeps us in a competitive market to keep our prices down.
We have a pretty unique niche, but there are others out there.
I think we're probably one of the cheapest, and it's probably why our competitors, you know, frankly do not like us.
It's pretty unfortunate, but we do that for a reason.
We're here for the American people.
We want to try to keep continuing to lower our prices.
We need Robert Kennedy to, you know, help us with that.
If we can do more compounding, if we can, you know, get involved in the compounding of certain drugs that are commercially available, it will bring down the pricing on the market.
And that's only something that the FDA and HHS can do that'll help alleviate some of the pressure on the cost of medications.
And then they can work on the hospitals dropping their prices.
And, you know, sooner or later, hopefully that helps with insurance.
But these are the reasons why we don't work with insurance.
There's no pricing transparency.
They charge what they want.
People overpay, then they pay higher premiums every month.
You come to us, you know what you're paying.
There's no gimmicks.
There's no hidden fees.
It's all on the website.
If you want the products, you choose it.
We send you to a doctor.
If they approve it, we ship it directly to your door.
That's it.
It's simple.
It's easy.
It's convenient.
We're not hiding anything.
We put it all in front of you so that you can make an informed decision as an American with medical freedom.
That's all.
Now, do you guys able to sort of dispense in all 50 states?
We're licensed in almost 50 states.
We're working on it right now.
It gets very complicated when you do online sales.
That is where the last few states are troubling.
Again, you know, there is so much going on in the pharmacy side of business.
The regulators, they're not happy with us.
So it's a constant battle.
We literally hired one individual just to fight these battles on a daily basis for us to get us in every 50 states in all 50 states.
The pharmacy regulators are far worse than any regulator in the industry.
It's unfortunate.
They're old school.
They don't care about what's new, what's the market, how the market has changed.
They're not interested in that.
They're interested in what's going on or what happened 20 years ago and how the old school medicine should be go to a doctor, wait in the waiting room for an hour while you're sick, and then get your prescription sent to your local pharmacy, which then you use your insurance for.
You can't even negotiate or find competitive pricing.
You're forced to go to that pharmacy because of your insurance to get it.
That's what our regulator is like.
But we are shipping in currently about 44, 45 states.
Most of the states, we're working on the remaining few and should be any day now or within the next few months.
So is the with the remaining states, I mean, you said you'll eventually get through to them, but are the hang-ups mostly at the state level, or is it like, I guess, like federal level?
It's all state level.
It's the Board of Pharmacy.
Yeah, I've submitted an application, for instance, to Alabama four times.
I've paid four application fees because every time I submit an application, they're all about money.
They just want the money.
And they find an error.
We have to submit a new application with a new fee.
I've changed my pharmacist.
My pharmacist is licensed in Alabama.
We're hoping to be any day now.
And that state, it's just, it's a state-level thing.
They have old school technology.
This is not new school.
They're so far behind.
It's not even funny.
And it's as if they don't want us to provide this service in their state, to be honest.
I mean, it very well could be because we've seen sort of how the old school pharmaceutical industry, a lot of people call it the medical mafia, the medical cartel, because they just make so much money between the insurance companies and government, you know, tax dollars and stuff like that, that they just have this hold on a market.
And I think when organizations and companies like All Family Pharmacy come in and you're providing these like cheap treatments that work to cure so many different things and make you healthier, it takes money out of their pocket.
And so a lot of the times I feel like some of these hang-ups that you're facing are just because there's people that are getting a little piece of that pie from the old infrastructure, you know, and we're trying to have to, I guess, remodel our medical landscape, which is it needs an overhaul, to be quite frank.
Big time.
It definitely does.
And perfect reference right now is what Eli Lilly and Nova Nordisk are doing with their GLP ones or their GLP weight loss drugs.
They're pushing, they're spending millions and millions of dollars in the state of Florida right now trying to push a bill that would force pharmacies like ourselves to purchase the pure API, which is the pure powder form of a drug, directly from the manufacturer or block us altogether from being able to purchase it.
And if that passes in Florida, it's going to pass every state in the United States.
And then we cannot compound medications.
We can make that drug that they sell for $1,200 a month.
We can make that for under $300 a month and for probably even cheaper than that.
The same equivalence.
It's a generic version of it.
It's trzepatide or semaglutide.
We can make the same equivalent version.
They don't want that.
They want the insurance companies to pay $1,200 a month for their patients and they rake in billions, billions of dollars.
So that's what we're facing right now.
And it's a constant battle that we kind of continue to face as big pharma only gets bigger.
Well, thank you for sharing that.
I'm definitely going to clip that part and put that on social media because people need to know and we need to make sure that these bills don't get passed, because you know this is it hurts the American when they do this sort of stuff, you know, and they they put these drugs out of reach for some people, which can ultimately cost them their life in some cases.
So thank you for what you're doing.
I'll have have one more quick sound bite here from Secretary Kennedy that I want to play on Operation Stork Speed.
So let's play that real quick and I'll get your thoughts on the other side.
We launched Operation Stork Speed, which to fix our baby formula.
We have the guidelines for baby formula.
In this country.
There's 30 nutrients in baby formula.
They were developed 30 years ago and we have increased our knowledge of of the micronutrients that are required to build brains in these babies exponentially since then and they're not reflected.
We're doing that.
We're also looking at contaminants, which are ubiquitous in baby formula and uh, in april we're going to release we're doing a comprehensive look at all the contaminants in baby formula and we're going to release a report in april.
I mean.
So he brings up a really good point.
Just your reaction to that is contaminants, when it comes to not just baby formula but other medicines in general, a concern.
It's going to be a concern when you go outside the United States.
One of the regulatory factors we have here, and that's through the FDA, is we have to work with an FDA registered manufacturer and an FDA registered wholesaler for our products, our medications.
We go through two checks and balances to make sure that the medication is not contaminated.
There are no heavy metals uh, there's nothing in there that we would not want in there.
It the purity level is they generally say 97 or higher is a successful area for us.
We prefer 98 to 99 percent or higher.
So we go through these checks and balances.
How are these companies and we're talking baby formula companies, which is probably a very important industry in the world how are they not going through those same checks and balances to prevent contamination like we're seeing?
So it's unfortunate to see it.
We're doing our due diligence on our medications to make sure it's safe and effective.
They should be doing their job on their side to make sure that baby formula, which is going to our children, is safe and effective, amen.
Streamlined Medication Process00:02:38
Well, why don't you tell us in the last you know minute or two that we have here, just about all family pharmacy and sort of the process that people need to go to if they're looking At getting involved with you guys and getting access to some of the products that you guys offer.
Yeah, so you can go to allfamilypharmacy.com backslash Lindell, and you can place your order directly online.
We have all of the medications listed.
It does go through a streamlined process, but again, it is approved through a physician.
If you want to speak to the physician, we facilitate that for you.
You fill out medical forms, allergy forms, you select the drugs you're looking for.
We send that over to the physician.
We get you over to a doctor to get it approved and we ship it out.
Our processing time is very quick.
It's usually only one to three business days.
Right now, we're within 48 hours.
We offer overnight shipping so you can get it next day.
Our process is streamlined.
We try to make it as quick as possible because we know how important medications are to certain people, especially those who need it the most.
So you can also call us on the phone if you don't know what to order, if you're stuck, if you want some advice from a pharmacist.
You can't go to Walgreens and CVS and say, hey, I just want an antibiotic or an inhaler for my asthma just in case.
They're not going to give you recommendations.
They're going to say, go talk to your doctor.
I can't answer these questions for you.
You come to All Family Pharmacy.
We treat you like a patient, like you should be treated.
We give you ideas.
We give you references.
We try to teach you to keep the right medications based on your health at home at all times.
So you can always call us and we can walk you through the whole process.
I love that.
And just real quick, maybe in like 20 seconds here, what's in the emergency kits?
Because those I might have to get one of those.
The emergency kits, we've got different types of antibiotics, different medications for an emergency case use.
It's always great to have in your cabinet just in case.
You never know what happens.
And then we have the other kits, the flu kits, sinus infection kits.
You never know.
These are amazing to have on hand just in case.
Amen.
Well, thank you so much, Michael, for joining us.
We're definitely going to have to have you back on in the future.