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We got a lot of great guests coming on today, but the big news that came across my peripherals here this morning was that Attorney General Pam Bondi put out a tweet this morning saying that this past week,
at the request of the Department of War, the Department of Justice and FBI executed a search warrant at the home of a Washington Post journalist who was obtaining and reporting classified and illegally leaked information from a Pentagon contractor.
The leaker is currently behind bars.
I am proud to work alongside Secretary Hegseth on this effort.
The Trump administration will not tolerate illegal leaks of classified information that, when reported, pose a grave risk to our nation's national security and the brave men and women who are serving our country.
And press secretary for the White House, Caroline Levitt, reposted that, adding to that, leaking classified information puts America's national security and the safety of our military heroes in serious jeopardy.
President Trump has zero tolerance for it and will continue to aggressively crack down on these illegal acts moving forward.
So now, this is pretty wild to me, right?
You have on the one side of it, you have this investigation, I guess, which was originally into the leaker, not into the journalist.
But an investigation into the leaker led to the Washington Post journalist having her home raided.
And I want to pull up this headline real quick from The Guardian.
We have FBI raids home of Washington Post reporter in a highly unusual and aggressive move.
The article goes on to say that agents descended on the Virginia home of Hannah Natansen as part of an investigation into a government contractor accused of illegally retaining classified government materials.
An email sent on Wednesday afternoon to post staff from the executive editor, Matt Murray, obtained by The Guardian, said that agents turned up unannounced, searched your home, and seized electronic devices.
Now, I want to also add that this was the investigation into Aurelio Perez-Lugones, who The Guardian says was a top administrator in Maryland with a top security clearance and has been accused of taking classified information, leaking it to this reporter.
But what's really interesting is that this Washington Post reporter had actually put out information in an article that The Guardian quoted, right, where she said that her work had led to 1,169 new sources.
And this is a quote, all current or formal federal employees who decided to trust me with their stories.
She said she learned information, quote, people inside government agencies weren't supposed to tell me.
So this is a quote, right?
The Guardian is attributing to the Washington Post reporter that just had her home raided and her devices seized.
So are those 1,169 new sources she claimed to have had leaking information from within the Trump administration now going to be investigated themselves?
I mean, so this is a big, big problem here, big problem here.
But it'll be interesting to see what happens going forward.
I know the fake news media, they're going to cry, you know, oh, freedom of the press is unconstitutional or something like that.
Again, this was not an investigation into a journalist per se, but rather an investigation into someone who had a security clearance to handle classified information.
And so I believe we have a guest joining me to discuss this story.
Let's bring him on in.
R.C. Maxwell, thank you for joining us.
Thanks for having me on, Heather.
Now, you are also a Pentagon correspondent like myself.
Let's just, what's your reaction to this, this, you know, this leaker?
Well, look, you know, the United States has had leaks in the past, but what's been significant is right before the Venezuela operation, we know that there were leaks coming out of somehow the Department of War.
So it would make sense that potentially before you saw some sort of action on Iran, that the United States would try to snuff out this leaker.
Potentially that's what happened.
You have this government employee arrested for retaining documents.
Again, it doesn't necessarily mean that, you know, the media was tipped off with direct knowledge of an operation.
With Venezuela, perhaps they were tipped off about certain defense contracts that were purchased, that were finalized, that were executed.
Again, you have lots of media sources like yourself and myself that's been monitoring minor troop movements, you know, minor refueling operations across the Middle East, because we're looking certainly for some indication that the Department of War is about to perhaps engage in an operation right in Iran.
So it's not surprising that the government snuffed out this leaker.
Now, what gets to the somewhat shocking part is the fact that, you know, the media has somewhat been involved, but I think you're right to identify the government has kind of operated with like gloves here with the Washington Post.
They weren't the subject of the investigation.
They weren't cuffed in that gunpoint like James O'Keefe was when James O'Keefe was merely reporting on the diary of the president, not a national security matter.
And so certainly you would think that, you know, this would be applauded by certain press organizations because certainly the government has to snuff out their leak.
Now, there hasn't been a rush of reactions from, you know, like, at least from what I've seen yet, organizations like the ACLU and Freedom of the Press just yet.
But certainly I do expect representatives from those groups to, you know, round the, you know, the troops and kind of, you know, be aghast at what happened.
But again, when you look at the overall body of work that you've seen in the last two administrations with how the press was respected, certainly you have a confiscation of certainly devices that will probably be used simply to prosecute this individual who was leaking.
Unlike what you've seen, however, with, again, James O'Keefe, many of his devices were confiscated for years, including devices that were not germane to the Ashley Biden diary investigation.
So from what I've seen as a First Amendment advocate myself, I don't see anything that's necessarily awry.
And you can certainly, though, expect the legacy news to use this against the Trump administration.
Yeah, absolutely.
And we just put on, we put up an article from Politico on the James O'Keefe thing, you know, where he did have the Project Veritas headquarters rated.
You used to work for Project Veritas with James O'Keefe.
And now, can you explain like, because that was a much different scenario than what we're talking about right now, right?
You're talking about a journalist, James O'Keefe, who was handed a piece of information from a source and then reported on that piece of information.
Whereas the Pentagon aspect of it is you have somebody with a classified security clearance working with our intelligence community and our military leaking this information to the press.
And he was the subject of the investigation, not the Washington Post reporter.
But in James's case, it seemed like James was the subject of the investigation.
Yeah, look, and if you're asking yourself at home, well, really, what's different in these two cases?
Well, first, let me tell you that in the O'Keeffe situation, when they suspected that there was something that was awry, they didn't focus their investigation on the source, which would have been the individuals who eventually pled guilty for stealing Ashley Biden's diary out of her apartment.
I use air quotes because there were some argument that maybe these items were left behind.
But again, they did accept the plea agreement.
In this instance, there was no wiretapping of the Washington Post, Heather.
Heather, there was no obtaining Apple documents and email documents from the Washington Post.
It was simply you go straight to the source immediately.
Again, this individual was arrested just a couple of days ago.
So you have the government collecting evidence within a mere couple of days.
The Biden administration, Heather, collected data on multiple Project Veritas employees for months wiretapping.
Now, who knows what information they were getting?
Who knows what reporting they were doing on that?
Again, you have to understand that many of the probable cause, what was used to get those wiretaps is still currently sealed, despite the fact that the Trump administration is now in charge.
You certainly probably heard James O'Keefe banging that drum, asking why probable cause is still redacted, despite the fact that he has gotten his devices back at this point.
But certainly two different levels of respect being shown here for the First Amendment.
And certainly, you know, despite the action, which may seem aggressive from the legacy media, because the legacy media is always getting used to being treated special, you certainly have to respect what the Trump administration has done while trying to shore up this leak.
For sure.
And, you know, I guess what all are we going to end up finding out about this leaker in particular, given that this is an issue involving national security, right?
Which is why he's being held right now behind bars as he awaits, I guess, what, criminal charges?
Is this going to be something that is going to go through military courts?
But what all are we as journalists or the American public even going to be able to access as far as this goes since it is such a sensitive national security matter?
Well, it does appear that this individual is a civilian.
Now, however, if he does have previous military experience, of course, you know, he could, there could be special circumstances in which he could undergo a military tribunal.
However, currently he is going through the court process.
Again, he's being charged with retaining documents illegally.
And now, again, I certainly have, I've spoken a lot about what this arrest could mean for the situation in Iran.
Now, that is certainly speculation on my front.
Now, what has caused me to speculate that is the fact that when you take a look at the court documents, the Trump administration is claiming that this individual cannot under any circumstances be released pre-trial.
They don't want this individual to get bail because they claim he has, quote, mental knowledge of these operations.
Despite the fact that they've gathered these documents, this individual they're saying has mental knowledge of some of these classified operations, which to me seems to indicate a time-sensitive factor.
To me, that seems to indicate that what this individual knows could risk American lives.
And I think that's also something they said in the filing.
What this individual knows and what they could divulge could risk American lives.
So who knows what it could be?
It could be something about literally anything when you take a look at the amount of high tensions around the globe that the United States is currently weighing their options in.
It could be anything, certainly.
But when you ask the question, you know, what are we going to find out about this individual?
The government is hoping not much.
And certainly, though, more is going to continue to come out, however, because of this element of the Washington Post being involved.
Yeah, I mean, like, I don't know if you heard before you jumped on with us, I had read a quote from that Guardian article that said the Washington Post reporter, I guess she had published something previously saying that, and this is a quote from her attributed to her by The Guardian, where she said, she said her work led to 1,169 new sources, all current or formal federal employees who decided to trust me with their stories.
She said she learned information that people inside government agencies weren't supposed to tell me.
And so it'll be interesting to see if now that the government has seized her electronic devices, if now in that investigation, other leakers within the Pentagon, Department of War, or other federal agencies are exposed as a result.
Yes, that's a good question.
It's a good point you bring up, but you have to also understand that, you know, there is some regulations on what the government can do when they're searching for evidence, especially with respect to journalists.
What I would expect to happen here shortly is I would expect the Washington Post to file some sort of legal filing asking for their devices back and also asking for a judge to appoint a special master to oversee this entire process.
And that special master generally is what would be expected to safeguard other materials like other sources that may not be germane to the specific investigation being done by the Department of War.
None of that's been certainly announced yet.
These are all things we have to keep tabs on.
But when you look at this situation, it's certainly peculiar, but you have a lot of national security implications at stake.
Yeah, 100%.
And I'm, you know, the other thing we can touch on real quick is just James O'Keefe with OMG just broke another crazy sort of national security breach where you had the secret service, secret service agent following Vice President JD Vance leaking information on a date.
I mean, I guess my question, Arsie, is like, how does the administration manage all of the risks internally with like these rogue agents and leakers?
I mean, is there a way to like really comb through or is this something we're just going to have to gradually improve on over time as these leakers and Trojan horses reveal themselves?
Well, look, you know, we're still trying to read between the lines on a lot of these storylines.
Of course, O'Keeffe offers a lot of transparency.
So what you know took place with OMG is you most likely had a journalist who was, what, attractive, who played to the weaknesses of the bravado of a Secret Service agent who ultimately led him to divulging secrets.
So that is, by the way, 101, the motive of Russia or China.
So that's one of the reasons why you saw the Secret Service send that memo internally saying it's time for you to brush up on your espionage training.
And who knows what else is going to come for that?
If I were the Secret Service, quite frankly, I would just invite James O'Keefe out himself and offer, you know, whatever you need to offer in terms of a payment because, you know, certainly there's a problem.
Even linking back to the Washington Post scenario, maybe there's a parallel here.
You look at that Washington Post journalist.
She's certainly very young.
And you certainly ask yourself, you know, how does a journalist like this gain the confidence of thousands of national security contractors?
Maybe there's one that's introducing them to her because of some other weakness that's being played to in that situation.
So what you saw happen with the O'Keeffe Media Group investigation into the Secret Service certainly shows that it doesn't take much to get information that puts someone potentially one step away from a vice president or get information that puts potentially an operation like Venezuela,
which was arguably the most high-stakes military operation we've seen probably since Bin Laden at risk.
So it doesn't take much, apparently, to put those things in jeopardy, which is certainly a national security concern.
And when you see that, it certainly makes a lot of moves from the Trump administration make a lot of sense.
The fact that they're a little bit late sometimes briefing Congress, the fact that they kicked out members of the, excuse me, not kicked out, the Pentagon press kicked themselves out, but the fact that they imposed new regulations there, you certainly see them trying to safeguard national security secrets.
They're not just going to let the media work in concert with Democrat politicians and sadly, globalist politicians to sabotage the administration.
Yeah, it was interesting because John Conrad, one of our other fellow Pentagon Press Corps members, he and I went on the Newport news trip to the shipbuilding facilities and in our vehicle was some fake news reporters.
There was some CNN and they were nice to our faces, which was, you know, as a Christian, I'm like, give everyone the benefit of the doubt.
But apparently, like somebody, which John believes was CNN, leaked information that was discussed with inside that van.
And it's like, you know, like if you're leaking trivial things that really have no bearing on national security, like what are you going to do with the bigger information?
And so it just, it makes sense why the Pentagon implemented these new measures that you and I are willing to abide by.
But it's just, it's unfortunate that there are so many bad actors within our own government that we have to weed out.
But what do you, I want to get your take on one last thing going forward, because you are keeping track of sort of the Iran conflict, some of the other stuff.
I mean, there's just been a lot going on.
I've kind of heavily focused recently just on the rebuilding of our military.
Can you tell us about some of the, you know, what is going on with Iran?
Are you hearing that we could potentially be getting involved there?
Or is, you know, is that just sort of talk as of right now?
I mean, again, I'm no stranger to speculation.
So I'm happy to say that I do not believe that any sort of operation or strike is imminent.
I judge that based upon the fact that although I don't doubt our capabilities, we do not currently have any aircraft carriers in the Middle East due to the fact that many of them are in the Caribbean and other places due to other buildups.
You also have to consider the fact that Iran is asking to speak.
And certainly, I think the United States is willing to explore options there.
But the president has drawn a red line.
He said he's tired of seeing these reports and these casualties of protesters.
And he said if it continues, he's going to have no choice.
We know the president already revealed that he had kinetic strike capabilities on the supreme leader of Iran.
He said, I know where you are.
He could have pushed the button, but he decided not to.
So the question is, what will cause President Trump to push that button?
And certainly, Iran is much different than Venezuela.
You take out Khomeini, you probably initiate a series of skirmishes, not just in Iran, but you have to understand Iran has a lot of proxies throughout the Middle East, terrorist proxies they've been funding.
There are United States soldiers everywhere.
The success of Venezuela, Heather, was the fact that no United States lives were lost.
I don't think the CIA has as many sources in Iran as they have in Venezuela.
I could be wrong, but there are a lot more complications there.
So I don't think we're going to see something.
I think we're going to see, we're going to continue to see diplomacy.
But again, you know, I don't see how we can continue to move forward with the Iranian regime in power.
And I don't say that just because of what their own people say, but certainly the United States has something to say about that.
And so does Israel.
So the tensions are building up in the Middle East.
And it seems like really the only way out is to get the regime out of there.
But who knows what it's going to take?
You know, certainly a nation like Qatar could still be persuasive, can offer a safe haven to the Iranian regime.
They can offer resources, money.
But, you know, this is a homeland struggle.
And I think Khomeini is willing to fight this to the death.
So we'll see and continue to monitor what happens.
But certainly, I don't think based on any movements I've seen, despite the fact that the 160th Delta aviation is on the move back to the Persian Gulf, I don't think there's going to be anything happening because a kinetic strike, Heather, just really initiates a war.
Yeah, well said.
And also with that, you know, $1.5 trillion defense budget, I think when Secretary Hegset said, in order to have peace, you got to prepare for war.
I think the Trump administration is making it very clear that they're well prepared for war if it comes down to it.
So hopefully it doesn't come down to it.
But we want to thank you, RC Maxwell, for joining us today on the Mike Lindell show.
Where can people go to follow you and the work you're doing?
Well, they can follow me on X. You can find RC Maxwell on X. I'm also on Instagram, although X is much more of a free speech platform.
And I would just say keep tabs on both Red State and the work we're doing at Turning Point Action.
It's going to be a big year in 2026, Heather.
I don't know if I'm excited or terrified.
It's going to be crazy, but looking forward to covering it alongside you, RC.
Thank you for joining us.
Thank you.
And I mean, I like what a crazy start to the show there.
I mean, that's some big news.
WAPO journalists getting their devices seized and leakers caught.
I mean, it's good, though.
It's good that the administration is catching these threats within the Pentagon before anything has happened.
You know, they did a great job really concealing what they were planning in Venezuela that was executed flawlessly, like no American lives lost.
I believe they said they didn't even lose any equipment.
There was one helicopter that got struck, but they got all their equipment back, all their aircrafts, everything.
So great job on the part of our military.
Hopefully, we can pray and continue to have all of these leakers exposed within the system.
I want to switch gears a little bit over to the Maha side of things.
There's been some new news on that front.
White House Press Secretary Caroline Levitt announced that there's going to be an executive order today that allows Maha moms, right?
Listen up.
Trump is to sign a bill allowing schools to serve whole and 2% milk.
And now, this doesn't probably seem like a big deal, but under the Obama administration, they actually made it so that you couldn't.
You had to take these products like whole milk that are good for kids, and they basically turned it around and make it so that everything is.
We're basically having to relearn how to be healthy because everything our government has force-fed us over the previous administration and not just them, but like for decades.
I mean, we've seen the vaccines pushed on us, we saw COVID, like everything the medical industry has tried to teach us, right?
It's really indoctrination.
We're now having to unlearn.
And the Trump administration under Secretary Kennedy is really doing God's work going and kind of reversing all these things.
Everything from the executive orders on the milk to redesigning the food pyramid that schools were pumping into our heads, you know, through our K through 12 education.
All of that is having to be redesigned because the system that was in place before was actually designed to make Americans unhealthy.
And some more big news coming out of the Maha industry is we have a clip from RFK Jr. on the hepatitis B vaccine.
And he's really going hard on the effects of these vaccines on kids.
But take a listen, what he had to say.
Rate of death in children from hepatitis B was it was about one in seven million.
The rate of chronic disease in children is probably around 60 or 7 in 60 or 70,000.
That means you have to give 70,000 hepatitis B vaccines to avert one case of chronic disease.
And if you give 70,000 vaccines, people are going to get injured, like your child was injured.
And so, you know, in some cases, some of these vaccines may be causing more problems than they're averting.
And we can't make that prediction because we don't know the risk profile for these products because we've never done safety testing.
The safety tests that were done, there's two hepatitis B vaccines allowed in this country.
One by GSK, the other by Merck.
The GSK version was tested for four days, safety tested.
That's all.
So if the baby died on the fifth day, it never happened.
If the baby, you know, got sick or died 10 days later, it never happened.
And the um, and the study group, I think for that vaccine was 343 kids.
This is a product you're giving to 3 million kids a year.
And there's nothing that you can tell from 343 kids.
I mean, it's heartbreaking when you listen to this information, but again, we have another win.
We have President Trump in the White House and we have Secretary Kennedy finally bringing these issues to light.
Gone are the days where we have bad research and profits being put over people and our nation's children, which are the most sacred among us.
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On to our next topic today: there's a lot going on in Minnesota.
And our very own Allison Steinberg was in the halls of Congress and had a confrontation with none other than Elon Omar.
Allison joins us now.
Hey, Heather, good to see you.
Good to see you.
And oh my God, when you, when that clip had come over, with I guess you've had you've had two rounds with her now, right?
It's like free, yes, free speech UFC fights going on here.
And you totally got her in that first clip.
I want to go ahead and play your first interaction with her that you got the other day.
Take a listen, Congresswoman.
Republicans have repeatedly stated that you committed immigration fraud.
Are you at all worried about a formal investigation that could perhaps lead to your deportation?
One of those people.
I don't know what that means, but are you at all concerned?
Do I look concerned?
I guess not.
Okay.
What about the Minnesota fraud hearing?
You didn't show up for that.
Do you think you should have?
Why should I have?
What happened in your state?
Don't you want to defend your position?
There were people from my state that were there.
Okay, but why not you?
I mean, there's allegations that you're complicit in the fraud.
Wouldn't you want to show up?
If there would be an allegation that I'm complicit, how would I be complicit?
Well, what about Tim Walton?
Do you just ask stupid questions?
Is this your thing?
I'm curious to get your thoughts.
I mean, there's a lot of controversy around the issue.
$9 billion in fraud in the state of Minnesota.
$9 billion?
You don't think so?
Really?
Yeah.
And counting.
Probably more, honestly.
You think that's fake news or what?
That is more than half of the resources that are allocated.
So you genuinely, like, your brain has told you that it is possible for half of the resources.
I'm just going off of what our public service to like have disappeared, is what you're saying.
Countless Minnesota state representatives, whistleblowers have come forward.
I'm trying to think about that for a second.
Maybe if you showed up at the hearing, you would know that whistleblowers are being retaliated against for exposing the fraud.
Why is that?
Why are they being tracked and traced?
Think about what you're asking.
Who is tracing whistleblowers?
Minnesota state officials?
Tim Walz?
Anyone who dares to speak out against the government?
Tim Waltz is doing something to win.
Why is Tim Waltz stepping down if he's, you know, innocent?
Why isn't he running for re-election?
Because he's had eight years to serve as our great governor.
He was going to be vice president of the United States if Camel won.
He would have been an excellent vice president.
And now he's stepping down.
He's not even better than the person we have right now.
Now he's stepping down as governor.
Any comment on that?
You don't think he's maybe complicit?
He is focusing on trying to make sure our state remains white.
All right.
Have a nice day.
Thank you.
You too.
Please read.
I don't even know what to say to that other than like she dodged all of your questions.
Yeah, I mean, there's a lot to that.
I guess the first part is when she asked me, oh, you're one of those people.
I wish, in hindsight, I wish I would have responded with, yeah, I'm a concerned American citizen that wants to root out fraud and corruption and have those responsible held accountable.
In the heat of the moment, it's hard to think of some of these things.
But she did, you know, successfully dodge pretty much every single one of my questions.
She also told me at the end to please read as though I'm just like some far-fetched, crazy conspiracy theorist who's coming up with this $9 billion fraud figure.
This is what is being largely reported by all of the state officials in Minnesota.
This is what's being reported by the House Oversight Committee.
This is what's being reported by Treasury Secretary Scott Besson.
So this is not just some made-up number, though I guess all of her followers and constituents believe that it is.
I actually just read right before coming on with you, Heather, that CNN and NS now have not even reported on the Minnesota fraud.
So I guess when you have fake news and media outlets that refuse to actually share the news, that's kind of the response you're going to get.
So that's why it's so important for outlets like us here at Lindell TV to actually report on the truth and get the truth out there and the facts out there so that the people are made aware of what's actually happening when you have people like Ilhan Omar denying the facts.
It's just incredible.
Yeah, well, I mean, we also saw for four years under Biden where like the legacy media was essentially like a propaganda arm of the government, right?
Like it's just like provided cover for criminals.
So then they reported false stories on the Trump administration and the Trump family.
So great reporting down there.
And we also have a clip of Secretary Scott Besson on specifically the Minnesota fraud, suggesting that there could potentially be tapes, I guess, of the Attorney General there accepting like money to turn away from investigations.
Take a listen to the secretary.
Part of following the money, there are evidently some disturbing tapes of A.G. Ellison in meetings with people who donated to him, them calling for political favors to stop the investigations.
So we'll see.
But again, I don't want to get out ahead of the investigations.
This is going to be very methodical.
And Chris, I can guarantee you when the bear trap snaps, we're going to get these folks.
And again, we're going to follow the money, whether it's over the two counties here, in Minneapolis, St. Paul's, or whether it's to East Africa.
And there's tons of luxury properties, cars that have been bought over there.
So it'll be interesting to see if one of those people that he gets is actually Elon Omar.
I mean, do you anticipate her getting, has she been subpoenaed or anything by the oversight committee or anything like that?
From everyone that I've talked to, Republicans in Congress, they all say that they are pretty much aligned with investigating her.
I don't know if that has officially happened, but I have been sure to ask repeatedly time and time again with any Republican that I can even get a moment of their time with, what is going on with Ilhan Omar?
Will she be subpoenaed?
And they said they're all reassuring me that something is brewing behind the scenes and that she's really target number one here in Congress.
So my question always then comes down to can we trust the ethics committee who would be investigating her to actually be ethical?
It seems like the swamp continually protects itself.
So we'll see what happens.
I guess time will tell on that front.
But I'm glad to know that this is being investigated thoroughly on various different fronts, parallel investigations running on the Minnesota fraud.
So I just hope and pray that this is just the beginning of what is to come and that this avalanche continues to crumble and everyone that needs to be held accountable is held accountable.
I did have the opportunity to actually talk to Ilhan Omar once again today.
She was holding another press conference about how we've got to defund and abolish ICE.
I have more on that after this, but she was at another presser.
It was her press conference too, I'd like to add.
But interestingly enough, she was the last to arrive and the first to leave.
So it just goes to show how much she truly cares about this issue.
It's all just one big photo op for her.
But I caught her on her way out.
I ran after her to follow up on the last statement that she had in that first interaction where she told me at the end, please read.
Well, I came back to her with the facts.
I had the screenshots readily available and showed her that I wasn't just making this number up, that it's actually factual.
Let's take a listen to that exchange.
Congresswoman Omar, yesterday you told me to please read when I asked you about the $9 billion fraud that you denied is happening, but I have it right here.
I read, look, Chairman Comer opens hearing on massive fraud scandal, $9 billion.
That's what Comer believes because he's as smart as you are.
It's not just Comer.
It's Scott Besson.
It's federal prosecutors.
It's House Oversight.
And it's Minnesota State Practice.
You can have that.
Ma'am, I think you need to get examined because your brain has been fried in some way and it's not okay.
I really hope you get some help.
You and the Republicans here.
Take care, okay, ma'am?
I'm sorry, I can't go to the learning centers that you're running over in Minnesota, but I think you should perhaps read what's actually one of those learning centers.
one of those learning centers.
I mean her her constant insults and her you know arrogance really is very telling.
I think I think that, you know, she's in a very sticky situation right now.
And the fact that she has no problem continuing to deflect, continuing to try to insult me and refusing to answer to the American people that have many of the questions that I'm asking her, I think it's very interesting.
So, again, I just hope the truth comes out and I hope that she's held it to account because we know some of these wild accusations, like her marrying her brother, the fact that she, I don't know, came into the country with minus $65,000 and is now somehow worth $30 million.
I mean, there's a lot of unanswered questions here.
So I think the American people want to know.
And especially when you have this woman who's so rude and arrogant, then calling to defund federal law enforcement, the very people that are trying to uphold the rule of law and protect the Americans and get rid of the violent criminal offenders that have been let in under the Biden regime.
It really is just a slap in the face to actual American citizens.
Yeah, absolutely.
And we actually, before we let you go, we have a sought here from the woman who was killed.
Rebecca Good's father had actually gone on CNN.
And CNN, I think, was hoping to get the father to sort of be critical of the Trump administration or ICE, but that's actually not how the father, the approach the father took.
So let's take a listen because it's actually a pretty powerful sound bite.
Nothing about charges or anything, that just an investigation into what happened in terms of the ICE agent's actions.
But they were, according to the prosecutors resigning today, pressuring them to investigate Renee's actions and Becca, her wife's actions.
How do you feel about all that?
Well, you know, I'm not blaming anybody.
I mean, it's a hard situation all the way around.
It's hard for the, you know, for everybody involved.
I mean, the ICE agent, you know, at first, I didn't see the footage where, you know, he was actually, you know, he was actually being ran.
I mean, I seen the bump of the car hitting, you know, hitting his legs.
And so in a flash like that, it's hard to say how you would react.
From my understanding, that he had been through that before, maybe dragged or something.
And so, you know, like I said, it's just a hard situation for everybody.
You know, Becca, you know, she's a great person as well.
I mean, you know, I don't have any many enemies.
I love everybody.
And that's what the Bible tells us: love our neighbors as we love ourselves.
But, you know, I think there's some bad choices.
And the word says, for the wrath of God will come up on the children of disobedience.
And, you know, I don't blame ICE.
I don't blame Rebecca.
I don't blame Renee.
I just, you know, I just wish that, you know, if we're walking in the spirit of God, I don't think she would have been there.
That's that's well.
Powerful.
Amazing.
Seriously.
God bless that man and protect him at all costs.
I guess the fake news isn't going to get what they want out of him.
But I mean, that's just the facts.
And I wish that more people, namely Democrats, could look at it from a fair and honest perspective and just, you know, state the facts.
Unfortunately, it seems Democrats are using Renee Good's death as an opportunity to push their radical agenda and to now abolish ICE and impeach Christy Noam.
That's the latest out of Congress today is that Representative Robin Kelly has introduced three articles of impeachment against Secretary Christy Noam.
She's saying that she is guilty of obstruction of Congress, she's in violation of public trust, and she's complicit in self-dealing and personal benefit, saying that she's using all of this money for her own gain.
But I think, you know, the American people elected President Trump with a mandate.
They are, we are largely in support of making America safe again.
And in order to do that, it's going to mean some of the largest deportation efforts in the history.
It's just a result of what happened under Joe Biden, unfortunately.
So now we're cleaning up that mess.
And I think it should serve as a lesson to people who want to try to get involved and obstruct law enforcement from doing their job.
Maybe not such a great idea.
Yeah, well said.
Well said.
And we look forward to having you back on here, Allison.
Thank you for joining us today.
Thanks so much, Heather.
And I mean, there's a lot going on there, but also we have another big story.
I want to put up this Fox News headline: Hillary Clinton and Bill Clinton.
Okay.
Hillary Clinton and Bill Clinton stare down criminal contempt charges after defying house subpoenas in the Epstein probe.
Joining me now is a dear friend of mine, the CEO of Steve Bannon's war room, Maureen Bannon.
Thank you for joining us.
Oh, oh, you're muted, Maureen.
We're just going to blame this on the left and say they're trying to censor Maureen.
Oh, no, we can't hear her.
Let's see, we're having a little bit of a technical issue.
While Maureen figures that out, we do actually have a sound bite to play from, let's see, we have the GOP House Oversight Committee.
We're going to take a quick listen on their response to the Clintons denying these subpoenas.
Unanimously by the committee and a bipartisan matter, we will move next week in the House Oversight Committee markup to hold former President Clinton in contempt of Congress.
Yay!
So with that, be happy to answer any questions.
All right.
Do we have Maureen back up?
Can you hear me?
Ah, we got you.
Oh, God.
This has to be some kind of deep state op to try.
They don't want me on.
They don't want me on Lindell TV.
Well, I am so happy that you're able to join us today because I mean, your father, Steve Bannon, Peter Navarro, they didn't testify because of these subpoenas and they did time in jail.
So, oh, yeah, I have to show you this image.
Someone posted this up and said, it's a picture of your dad and Peter Navarro smiling.
And it says Steve Bannon and Peter both looking at the Clintons and laughing for some strange reason as Bill and Hillary defy a congressional subpoena to appear.
So what's your reaction to all this, Maureen?
Well, I expect that the Clintons be shackled like Peter Navarro was and perp walked and held in contempt of Congress.
You know, my dad and Peter Navarro did not testify before the unselect January 6th committee.
That committee was illegitimate because the two members that were proposed by the GOP side were basically shot down by Nancy Pelosi, and she picked the two she wanted, which we both know Liz Cheney and Adam Kinzinger are not Republicans.
They're rhinos.
So she knew what she was doing by allowing those two on the committee.
That committee voted to hold my dad and Peter Navarro in contempt and recommended prosecution to the DOJ.
Hillary and Bill Clinton were expected to be before the House Oversight Committee.
That is not an unselect, illegitimate committee.
That is an actual committee.
They needed to be there to testify before that committee.
And since Bill Clinton didn't testify yesterday and Hillary didn't testify today, the House Oversight Committee needs to vote to hold both of them in contempt, send it over to the DOJ, and we see prosecution for contempt of Congress.
And we should see, you know, at least four months in prison for both of them.
I really hope that Pam Bondi actually, you know, indicts them and that we see this because it shouldn't just be happening to one side.
It shouldn't have happened to my dad and Peter Navarro, but you can't do it to one side and then say, oh, we're not going to hold them accountable.
And they actually, like I said, because the J6 committee was illegitimate.
My dad and Peter Navarro should have never been held in contempt.
No, no, I agree.
I agree.
That was, I just remember the day that he went in there and your dad, being the bold, fearless patriot he is, just, you know, had no fear.
He went in and he came out stronger.
You know, I do hope and pray that they are held accountable, the Clintons.
And this, mind you, is a probe into Epstein, right?
And two ties to a known pedophile who, you know, Clintons had him flying back and forth however many times Epstein supposedly came out saying that he helped the Clinton Foundation and all these other connections.
And so this is a legitimate investigation by the House Oversight into the Epstein scandal.
And so that kind of begs the question: like, why are like if there's nothing there, right?
Why wouldn't you testify?
I agree with you.
If there was nothing there to hide, then come testify before the committee.
And I know people will say, well, why didn't Peter Navarro and why didn't Steve Bannon testify before the committee when they were asked?
Just to reiterate, my dad did not testify because of executive privilege from President Trump.
And then when President Trump saw what the committee was doing to my dad, he did a memorandum and said he was okay with my dad testifying.
And the J6 committee said, oh, nope, it's too late.
So that just shows that that was a show committee show trial.
They just wanted it for prime time.
But what's your reasoning, Hillary?
Bill, why didn't you testify?
What do you have to hide?
You know, Bill Clinton's on the list numerous times.
What are you trying to hide?
Come clean with the American public.
Yeah, well, that's not something in the Clintons.
They don't know how to do that.
Eric, yeah.
I mean, with all those emails that were deleted and now they're not testifying.
I mean, this is just right out of the Clinton playbook.
It's almost like expected of them.
But my question to you is: do you think we have the numbers to get that referral to the DOJ?
Do you think Pam Bondi is going to act on it if it makes it over to the DOJ?
How confident are you that we could potentially see Hillary Clinton and Bill Clinton doing the perp walk that they made your father do?
I think we do have the numbers to get it over to the DOJ.
I think Pam Bondi needs to indict the Clintons.
Now it might take people that are close to Pam Bondi reminding her what they did to Peter Navarro and my dad.
But I think that she needs to indict for contempt of Congress.
And Speaker Mike Johnson also had some words to say about this situation.
So take a listen to what he had to say.
Clintons defied the subpoena today.
One, are you going to hold them in contempt?
Two, should the House of Research Committee also pursue Trump and get testimony from him with as much zeal?
Why would they need to president Trump?
President Trump is open unending press conferences on a daily basis.
Anybody can ask him anything.
And he's addressed this issue ad nausea.
Under our oath, the Clintons have not.
And I think it's defiance of Congress for them to defy the subpoena.
I mean, I think by definition, it's a contempt of Congress.
And we're obviously not a closed up.
It's amazing how they, honest to God, tried to turn it on Trump, right?
Like Hillary and Bill Clinton deny a subpoena to testify about his connection to Epstein.
And what does the reporter ask?
He asks about Trump.
Like, is Trump going to testify under oath?
Like, once again, it's just Trump derangement syndrome at its finest.
Somehow they have to connect the Clintons, you know, defying a subpoena to Trump.
Somehow, somehow, I'm surprised he didn't say somehow it's Trump's fault that they didn't show up.
But what Speaker Johnson didn't say is, yes, we must hold them in contempt of Congress.
Speaker Johnson, what are you afraid of?
Why are you not saying we must hold them in contempt?
Two members of your party, two patriots, stronger MAGA Republicans than you, sir, were thrown into prison for four months.
I didn't get to see my father for four months.
Why are you not saying, yes, we must hold them in contempt?
Who are you afraid of?
Are you afraid of the Clintons?
I mean, that's a fair question.
I mean, everyone knows that everyone, no one wants to be Clinton.
You know, it's like every time something, some mysterious death happens, the joke seems to be, what did the Clintons know?
Or what did you have on the Clintons?
Because it's true.
There's actually a number of people that have been affiliated with the Clintons that have died under mysterious circumstances.
So that's true.
But hopefully, Speaker Johnson does the right thing and the other Republicans, because, you know, it just seemed like under the Biden administration, they weren't afraid to weaponize the DOJ against innocent people.
Now we have control and it's like we're not weaponizing it against innocent people.
We just want you to go after the actual criminals.
And we want to see the prosecutions of the people that have hurt Americans that have hurt President Trump and his family and your father and Navarro and his family.
I mean, it's just, is it too much to ask that our government actually go after bad guys?
I don't think so at all, Heather.
The fact that they prosecuted two innocent men and had no issue, and that's just in this case, that Biden DOJ had no issue prosecuting innocent people across the board.
But we know the Clintons are guilty.
So why are we so afraid?
This isn't prosecuting and like weaponizing the DOJ against them.
It's using the DOJ rightfully and prosecuting two criminals.
So I hope Pam Bondi, one, I hope that the House Oversight Committee refers this to the House floor to vote them in contempt of Congress.
I believe we will have the numbers to send it to the DOJ.
And then, Pam Bondi, I really urge to prosecute them.
All right.
Well, hoping for the best, especially, you know, just we need justice.
And we also need justice for what happened to your dad and Peter.
So thank you so much for joining us, Maureen.
It was a pleasure having you on.
Thank you so much for having me on, Heather.
All right.
I mean, what a packed show.
There's a lot of good things happening.
There's a lot of bad things happening.
But we're going to stay on top of all of it here on Lindell TV.
Thank you all for joining me today on the Mike Lindell show.