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Dec. 16, 2024 - The Lindell Report - Mike Lindell
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THE LINDELL REPORT | 16 DECEMBER 2024
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My pillow guy, Mike Lindell.
He is the greatest.
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Mike Lindell.
And he's been with us right from the beginning.
Thanks for joining us tonight.
My name is Rick Weibel hosting for Mike Lindell.
Of course, I can't even say my own name because, you know, a couple weeks ago, it was kind of funny when I looked at the lower thirds and they had Rick Lindell.
So I was kind of generously adopted by Mike Lindell.
And I'm so proud to actually be able to step in his shoes and host his show here tonight.
We have a great show for you tonight.
I'll be hosting all week for Mike Lindell.
We've got a great program lineup for tonight, but also the rest of the week.
You'll definitely want to tune in.
And tonight is a little bit special.
I've got an old friend of mine coming on board, Susan Schoegren-Smith, who's an attorney in Minnesota.
And we're going to be talking about an active election case that is actually happening right now in Minnesota, where the judge actually heard arguments from both the Democrats and the Republicans regarding this case.
We'll also have a wonderful legislator in from the Minnesota House where we'll kind of talk about the political nature of the impact of this race, what it could have, but also the implications.
And the wonderful thing about this representative is that she's actually on one of the election committees, and she is actually very interested in learning more about some of the experience that Susan and I have had as well activists have had throughout the state of Minnesota on election reforms.
So this is a really good show as a template on how to build those relationships with attorneys, activists, and legislators to really look at kind of how we won this election, but also in all those previous elections, were they really above board?
And how do we make sure that our elections are transparent?
Are they where we need them to be?
And so we'll discuss that in kind of the second half of this as well as we kind of vision cast forward.
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Without him, we wouldn't have a show like this here tonight.
And so I'm really proud to say that Mike Lindell is absolutely a true patriot.
He has absolutely put everything on the line to make sure that our President Trump was duly elected in this election.
And Trump was right.
We had to make sure that we had the turnout to outdo the cheat.
Now, down ballot, there are still issues out there.
But let's kind of take a look at the news that's happening across the United States to kind of catch up with where things are at out there in the country.
It's kind of crazy.
So, you know, we don't hear this enough, but in all the stories that I see out there with President Trump, he is so amazing that he has the attention to detail for those of us who are, I'm going to say, underprivileged, who are going up against a huge battle.
And it's absolutely incredible that President Trump took the time to send a beautiful, touching letter to a precious little girl fighting leukemia.
And her reaction to his message is absolutely priceless.
I want to thank the Gateway Pundit for actually having this on their website because when we think about Christmas and the Christmas spirit, this is really what it's all about.
And for Trump to be a leader.
where he actually does this time and time again.
And unfortunately, the mainstream media does not share this type of wonderful story that Trump has been doing consistently even before he was president of the United States.
This is not a shtick.
This is who this man really is.
And one of the touching moments is that when this little girl's mom kind of finished with the letter and stuff, she handed the letter back to Lily.
And what Lily does next will absolutely warm your heart.
She hugs the letter while beaming and explaining, I love him.
And so that is just wonderful to see.
And check out the Gateway Pundit and the great news that they have.
And I actually love this one as well.
And I think this is the perfect picture of Donald Trump laughing after the absolute slanderous assault that George Stephanopoulos had at ADC regarding their false statements directed towards him, especially in front of Nancy Mace.
And so unfortunately for ABC, they had to hand over about $15 to $16 million after losing in court.
The next thing that is just absolutely stunning here at kind of more Minnesota news in this regard, Pete Hegseth from Minnesota, he basically produced the receipts regarding his acceptance letter to West Point.
And it's just absolutely disgusting that they even tried to do this.
And thank God for Pete Hegseth having the receipts, bringing them out and just absolutely telling these reporters they had it wrong and the smearing is done.
What's absolutely ridiculous is that we have found out that the Biden administration was actually trying to sell the border wall out there and Carrie Lake actually posted it on Axe and basically said, hey, somebody should go out here and buy this.
And thank God somebody did because Lieutenant Governor Dan Patrick of Texas stepped up and basically put out bids out there and purchased some of the border wall.
It's really disgusting that our tax dollars were used in this.
Now, in other news that I have not talked about recently, since I haven't really been on the show, but ever since this assassination of the United Healthcare CEO, you know, again, connected to Minnesota because this is where they're headquartered in Minnesota.
It's absolutely disgusting that we have leadership within the Democrats that don't respect the loss of life here and that this is not appropriate at all.
And so again, Bernie Sanders is out there getting caught.
And of course, Elizabeth Warren as well.
Somebody really needs to teach these people the real value of life.
And I understand some of the complaints that people have regarding the healthcare industry, but this is why we have legislatures.
This is why we have the courts and we have a process to settle our grievance in a normal society.
And what's really breaking my heart too is that Alpha News in Minnesota has reported that Medica has closed their Minnetonka headquarters following the United Health CEO's murder.
And so they have many of their employees now working remotely during this temporary closure.
And so people need to understand that the aftermath of this is absolutely destructive.
And there are a lot of people who would have preferred to keep working at work because there is that sense of community.
But now that there is this fear out there, this is absolutely real.
And I hate to focus on Minnesota so much, but tonight's show is really about Minnesota.
It just happened to line up with so many of the shows.
And news reports out there are focused on Minnesota lately.
And so it kind of makes it kind of a little bit of a head scratcher.
And I kid you not, we can actually see evil just flowing across.
And I kid you not that the Minnesota Capitol, for its first year, is now hosting a satanic holiday display days before Christmas.
I want to remind you: Tim Walz is the governor of Minnesota.
And so, is there anything that Tim Walz won't do to insult Minnesotans?
Ask Representative Tom Emmer.
Congressman, you're absolutely right to ask that question.
I'm a little afraid, though, that because you've made that statement, which is kind of Babylon B-esque, you may have just raised the bar and he may find a little bit more of a challenge.
And he may actually find something else that we've never thought of.
There is additional breaking news as well.
And my special guest, Susan, she has just informed me that on December 18th, this Wednesday at noon at the Capitol steps, there will be a prayer vigil to combat this.
And they're going to be singing Christmas carols as well as doing a prayer vigil to combat Satan.
Susan, tell us more about this.
Oh, we can't hear Susan, so we're going to try and lip read here.
Yes, this is going to be in.
There we go.
Yeah.
Too many kids running around.
Don't want you to have to hear that.
So, yeah, Restore Minnesota is coordinating with people across the state to do a prayer vigil on Wednesday and sing Christmas carols in the Capitol.
They're also working on getting permission to bring in another nativity to the Capitol grounds.
And then additionally, I've talked to people all over the state today who are going to be working on trying to have kind of a regular stream of people covering that Capitol in prayer until December 27th, when that display will be taken down.
And we're hoping that there will be legislators that will be perhaps willing to go in after hours and be present also to cover our legislature.
And when that display leaves, then I'm sure we'll be covering that building in prayer as well.
So, you know, this is America.
We have to remember this.
This is America.
They filled out paperwork.
They set this up.
And we have to be really careful not to try and squelch free speech because they do that to us all the time.
And we need to stand strong and demand that people have the right to do these things, but we have the right to also stand.
And we have to show up and we have to be there, I think, really to, like I said, cover the Capitol in prayer and have our testimony of what we believe be there and lift our testimony up higher than theirs.
So I really hope that Minnesotans and anybody else who wants to make the drive to the Minnesota Capitol do that and join whoever else is there.
What a great idea.
And so it is absolutely right.
This should be an absolutely nonviolent event.
We need to be praying for these people that have put up this type of an atrocity in your state capitol.
We know that Minnesota was founded by so many different pastors and early settlers because Minnesota was a rich history of settlements of various religious organizations in the state of Minnesota.
And just down the street, when you walk out of the Capitol, you see the Minnesota St. Paul Cathedral right there.
And so, you know, growing up in Minnesota and seeing that cathedral there kind of having oversight of the government, I think it's so important that the people now get out of their pews, go into the state capitol,
prayer, you know, and hopefully some of these satanic people will be able to have a chip in their heart that that evil will be displaced and that they'll have a little bit of remorse and a little more opening towards God and Jesus Christ because he has certainly saved my life in that regard.
And I know where I'm going, you know, because of, I mean, I can't do any of this because without prayer, I'm nowhere, you know, in that regard and his salvation.
So thank you for doing this.
Thank you for alerting me to this.
And this is on Alpha News as well as the Gateway Pundit.
And so it is going to spiral up nationally.
And I think pretty soon we'll see it on the Daily Mail and the BBC network.
So I wouldn't be surprised because this is certainly outrageous.
We saw this kind of action in Iowa last year where one of their representatives went and attacked the display.
We're not asking for that.
We just hope that maybe this group will get a little bit of sensibility and maybe will just withdraw their display on their own through prayer.
So I certainly hope all the best.
Now, getting back to the rest of the news that's happening across the country regarding elections, it's absolutely incredible that California went ahead and still certified its election despite all of the huge issues there.
And some of the highlights is that there was a bomb threat reported at one of the election centers.
A live stream of a facility was taken down.
There were vote flips across the board in different areas.
Orange County was an absolute mess.
We have people talking at various commission meetings saying there's no way that they should be certifying these elections.
We hope to see some court cases kind of develop out of that.
We'll keep on top of it here at the Lindell Network and kind of keep you up to date.
Now kind of what's happening over in Wisconsin, the great work of Peter Beringer, he has been calling out even since May, United States Senator Tammy Baldwin for laundering well over $27 million in her campaign since 2017.
And this is part of the whole Act Blue money laundering.
And feel free to later on go back and look at this, the steps that you can sign in to the FEC.gov under the campaign finance data, look up the contributions from specific individuals, put ACT Blue as the recipient name, select a zip code or a city that you'd like to search, and under occupation, put in retired or even just don't even put anything there.
And look at the number of people that are voting multiple times.
And in this case, one of the things that Peter Behringer found out is that Sonia, who lived in an assisted living facility, but that didn't stop her allegedly from donating, you know, seven and a half times per day, every single day, for seven and a half years.
So, and we were finding this in Wyoming, Minnesota, and South Dakota, and have alerted some of the legislators and other law enforcement to look at this and investigate some of these actions that are happening out there.
Now, Ken Paxton out of Texas has basically also submitted a case and is working with other Secretary of States and AGs to open this investigation further.
The Federal Elections Commission has also opened up a rulemaking fact check as well.
And one of the things that they are looking at is: do you have any advice or any concerns regarding the way that federal dollars are handled in campaigns?
And so this is a time for the public to go in and actually start commenting on how what kind of federal election reforms that you would want to have in regards to campaign finance.
And that deadline is January 27th, 2025.
Now, also considering what's happening in Texas, we see that Dallas Patriots have started a yellow ribbon campaign for Colorado detainee Tina Peters.
And she has recently just put out, I'm letting you know that if I die here, it wasn't by my own hand.
I'm not depressed.
And so she is wrongly imprisoned for what is doing right, where she properly backed up a system before Dominion came in and tried to reformat all of her system and then losing her election records.
And so please support her over there at www.tinapeters.us.
And she's absolutely a hero in my book.
Now, in some of the later news that is happening now here in Minnesota, I'm actually in South Dakota, but the guests are from Minnesota.
What is absolutely incredible is that there is a contested election there.
And the latest argument before the case today is that the DFL side basically said, well, you court, you're worthless.
You can't decide this.
We want to have this go to the Minnesota House and have them actually determine what should happen.
Now, remember, this is the race that has been shrouded in controversy since Scott County officials disclosed or admitted that 20 absentee ballots were properly accepted for counting.
They should have been counted, but they weren't counted or tabulated.
Additionally, the county said that those ballots were likely, quote unquote, thrown away and likely will not be recovered.
And so this is where I want to bring in both Pam and Susan so that we can kind of talk about this.
And so Pam, give us the latest background here on what's going on here in this 54A case and what are the consequences?
Because this was a close election, not only in this race, but what's the makeup of the so you have a Democrat governor, the Senate is Democrat, and this, the way that the House adds up right now, if this were to go through as it is, you would be a tie.
And so the Democrats would basically, in essence, have control.
So this race decides the future of Minnesota, right, for the next two years?
That's right.
Yeah, we just finished a two-year session with this like historic trifecta with the Democrats having complete control and passing some of the most extreme legislative agenda that we've ever seen here in Minnesota.
In fact, when you were going through the news and Minnesota keeps on hitting the news, I mean, it's kind of a joke, but it's sad.
And it's like Minnesota is creating more news than the average person can actually process.
And it's sad to see that.
But yes, you are correct.
Now with the House, right now we are in a tie, but there's actually two House seats that are being disputed in court.
One was a week ago, and that was that the Democrat candidate who won did not actually live in district.
And now today we started this other House race.
And just to give you a little background on that, at one point, it was about 1030 p.m. on election night, the Secretary of State website showed with 100% of precincts voting that the Republican won at 360 votes.
Now, the whole race was taken down.
It was zeroed out.
And we were told that absentee ballots were not added in, something like that.
We did not see that race come back up.
I believe it was after 2 a.m. in the middle of the night.
And then it got dumped back in the system.
And then it went from the Republican winning of a 360 vote lead to the Democrat leading.
You know, where we're at right now, the Democrat is leading by 14, but with the 20 ballots missing, I mean, that's within the margin.
And to any other person with common sense, this race should be redone.
This should be a reelection.
I didn't realize that the Democrats were arguing that the judge doesn't know anything and that this should go back to the state legislature.
So hopefully they are offended by that and they rule in our favor.
That would be wonderful to see.
Yeah, I think you're absolutely right because thank God for Susan because she literally has afforded me the opportunity to take a master class in the cases that she has submitted, but also in the attacks that she has received from the Minnesota Supreme Court, not once, but twice, that she has been attacked by Minnesota judges.
And I've had to sit there in those hearings and to kind of understand where judges are thinking, but also in South Dakota seeing some of these cases and in other states.
And I kind of, I agree with what you're saying, Pam.
I think because they've made this kind of a statement.
Now, there's a lot of times, and Susan, I think you and I will probably agree on this, is that we see in the U.S. Constitution that it very clearly states that it is the state legislatures that set the time, place, and manner of the elections.
Now, with that said, they don't want to decide new election law and new processes.
But when it comes to common sense statements like you admit to chuck in 20 ballots, this race differential is 14.
As a judge, this has nothing to do with election law other than you violated these particular statutes where you were supposed to manage these absentee ballots.
You didn't have the authority to throw away these absentee ballots.
You disenfranchised voters.
And so as a judge, I may have to intervene here to protect the trust of the public.
Would you agree with that sentiment, Susan?
I mean, there is really no good answer here for the courts other than to redo this election.
And I just also, and I think Ricky and I talked about this, you know, weeks before the election, I know absolutely 100% that these counties were put on notice about the need to preserve election materials.
We know that we attempted, one of the statewide candidates, Royce White actually, participated in sending a letter regarding guarding the ballots.
We have a phenomenal Minnesota statute.
I think we're the only state in the country that allows the guarding of ballots.
It's Minnesota Statute 209.05.
Secretary of State Simon unleashed his people on these county auditors and told them not to let the people observe the processes.
He said they can't card, even though the law says you can guard the ballot in the election, not after, but in, and up through the time to protest, to file a contest.
And so we had a Secretary of State literally directing counties to not allow the people in to observe this.
And I believe this is a perfect example of why this statute must be protected and we must continue.
You see behind me, guard the ballots, that we have to educate our people and our candidates about their rights to be present throughout this entire process.
And had there been people allowed to guard the ballots, that maybe this wouldn't even be happening because those ballots wouldn't have had the opportunity to be thrown away.
I hope that makes sense to you.
You're absolutely right.
And so, Pam, one of the kind of alerts here on election reform is that during the 2023 legislature, one of the things that was interesting that was changed is that the legislature, or I'm going to say the Democrats, changed the law to basically say that 19 days before the election, they could start inserting the absentee ballots into the tabulators.
And so when the state law says that the count shall be public, Susan's exactly right when she started up the guard the ballots program under the Royce White campaign to try and make sure that the count would be protected.
And so when Steve Simon basically says, no, you can't be there, he basically broke the law and ran interference of the public's right to basically have oversight of the elections.
And so this is what's great about this show tonight is that I don't think, Pam, you were aware of here's what the law is, what it says, how it changed in 2023.
Here's the result in the 2024 election.
And so now as we look at would we ever want to make sure that we give the Democrats this one seat control to maintain the trifecta?
No, you need the negotiating power to go back to say that 2023 law needs to be repealed.
And what Susan, as an attorney and an activist, where she was trying to make sure that the public had proper oversight of the election.
And Steve Simon, who is the chair of the National Association of Secretary of States, is the lead for corrupting the elections across the United States.
Prove me wrong, Secretary Simon, by rolling back this law, you won't do it.
Really, when it comes down to the end of the day, I mean, this should not, you know, be a partisan issue.
We really should be looking at the process so that it is fair, transparent, easy, and that we have the results quickly, right?
You know, nobody, we shouldn't be waiting weeks and weeks like we saw this election for people to still be counting ballots.
And so that's one thing that, you know, I want to work on in the state legislature is just that we're working on the process because Democrats or Republicans, I just don't believe that this should be disputed at all.
I think all of us want the same thing.
And I think we have to get very transparent with the public so that they know the process.
We all understand the process and to take out all these questions at the end of the day.
Thank you so much for that statement.
And that is absolutely what we want to hear in the public.
And that's what makes you a great leader is that you understand kind of, you may not understand all the intricacies of the law.
And I appreciate that for legislators because there are different legislators that are subject matter experts in different areas based upon kind of their background and kind of their, I'm going to say, unfortunate experience.
There are quite a few legislators that run because they've run into a problem and they become a subject matter expert, whether it's an automotive trade, whether it's health care, whether it's education, whether it's the government stealing their farmland.
Tip of the hat to Christino.
The folks like yourself, you know, and your background as well, you know, where they come from, businesses, etc.
And being a mom, that's an experience said as well.
You know, you know what's right and wrong and how to treat your children equally, and even how whether or not you how you treat your kids' friends and how you kind of automatically become a mom to them as well.
And so, as a legislator and as a leader, we always have to look at that is, and you were right to frame it in a non-partisan way, in a bipartisan way to say we all need to have oversight because, as partisans, we need to work with the other side to be able to say that when we have elections on election night, it better be transparent so we can shake each other's hand and say this was a good election and that we can trust it because that's how we can prevent the riots, the revolutions,
and all of the other stuff is by having that normalcy to basically say we have a good foundation built on trust.
And when that's eroded or destroyed, that's where unfortunately we have to have lawyers like Susan come in to defend the law and to try and point people to the law to say, this is the rules of the sandbox that we agreed to.
And when the rules aren't clear or when they're slanted to one side, that destroys trust in the elections.
And Rick, you know, you and I have done a lot of training across the state about absentee ballot boards and 203b.121.
We actually have really great laws in Minnesota.
And when those laws are followed, the plain language of these laws is followed.
These things can never happen.
It's impossible for this to have been accidentally done if the law was followed because the chain of custody has to be clear.
So how could you possibly enter a voter history and then throw out a ballot?
It absolutely is nonsensical.
And so, again, if all of the laws are followed, and I think obviously Scott County is going to be doing a lot of work to make sure that this never happens again.
And I'm sure counties all across the state are going to be looking at this case and using it as training going forward.
This can never happen.
And we have some really great laws, and hopefully there'll be no more tampering with them by the Democrats because we are hopefully going to at least pause the trifecta and then hopefully we'll get the trifecta eventually.
But this is a disaster, what happened here.
And it really should shake the confidence of the voters in how the Secretary of State is training people across Minnesota.
And what does that affect happening across the country if he's leading those movements of education across the country?
Because our laws are great, should never happen.
And I think thankfully, we have some phenomenal legislators that are engaged in trying to do everything they can to protect voters because it does affect Democrat voters.
It absolutely affects Democrat voters, independent voters, Republican voters, because when people don't trust the process, they can't trust the result.
And we have to be sure we all believe the result is honest.
And let's talk about trust here, too, because there's the timelines and deadlines.
They're in conflict in Minnesota.
So last night, I was part of a conversation with Pam, and we were talking with other attorneys and other legislators.
And some of the legislators were attorneys, too.
So that's kind of interesting.
The current case is a good case due to the 20 destroyed ballots in an election that has a 14-vote separation.
Great issue.
They have great evidence.
They have statements from the election officials, affidavits admitting to this.
So what's interesting is that November 21st, the statewide canvas was completed.
In Minnesota state law, there's seven days to file an election contest.
So then with the Thanksgiving holiday, that pushes the deadline to November 29th to file an election contest.
What's interesting is that December 17th is the county deadline to submit, as you pointed out, the voter histories.
So that's 42 days after the election.
What's interesting is that we found more evidence over the weekend of another issue regarding this election.
But our hands are tied because we can't open a new case if this one loses.
It's done.
However, because the case is open, we can present additional evidence that we've discovered into this.
However, the problem is that we were having a discussion on so it's so I get the data Friday night, work on it all day Saturday.
You guys are in the middle of a convention in Minnesota.
I text a bunch of you my early findings.
Sunday, Doan is able to validate my data on another system, and he comes to the same conclusion.
Sunday night at about seven o'clock, we start a meeting to tell the attorneys what we've discovered.
And it's really hard because typically attorneys have hundreds of hours already into this case material and they've got one really good bullet that's a silver bullet that they're ready to fire and give to the judge.
And we were offering them another silver bullet to put in a shotgun.
And it was really tough at that time to basically say, okay, let's build affidavits, let's update the court document, let's update this, and now let's try to dump this on top of a judge.
And then we have to deal with the judge and the defendants both saying, why couldn't you get us this information earlier?
Well, because the state law doesn't allow us to, because it allowed the election officials to hide this evidence.
And here's what's crazy.
So you talked about the ballots, right?
So the ballots on election night for this particular area is 23,000 ballots.
That's what showed up on the second election night, if you will, that Pam would have seen.
And that's what's still out there for this House district.
However, now that we get to December 6th and Scott County has finished their data, we get the December 8th data from the Secretary of State, but we don't get it until December 12th.
We then find out 23,000 ballots were counted, but there's only 22,869 voters voting.
That's 131 short.
That's a problem right out of the gate.
But then we also discover another problem.
Out of that pool of voters, we find evidence that there are absentee and precinct votes for 29 of those voters.
So they, in essence, double voted.
The county is saying, oh, no, no, no, no.
We already removed those and those are already in there.
Okay, well, if they were in there, you'd be 102 short.
But if you're admitting that they're not in there, you're still 131 short.
So, Rick, I think one of the things that is, you know, really critical for people to begin to understand is that we go back to that 203B that 121 statute that requires, it literally requires the absentee voters' information to be put into the statewide voter registration system.
It uses the exact language that it's required.
But what we absolutely know is that the counties often fail to make those connections that they have to.
And what that means is, even when you're tracking your ballot using the Secretary of State system, if the county has failed to track your ballot properly and to update the statewide voter registration system, a voter who is tracking their ballot and does not see the fact that their ballot has been counted on election day can go and likely will go if they're that engaged in the process, will go to their precinct to cast a vote because they as a voter want to be sure that their vote is counted.
And so they will believe that they are doing nothing wrong, that they are actually going and voting properly because their ballot has not been counted.
And prior to the ballot boards, if this would have happened, then the absentee ballots would have been counted at the precinct after the close of the polls, and this would be caught and there would be no duplication of voting.
Because the absentee ballot board statute separated out those two processes, when a county fails, and we know many counties reported that they were not current on their reporting into the SVRS, those absentee voters, they actually open the door to have innocent voters accidentally vote twice.
And once those ballots are commingled, our state case law is clear because we don't do provisional voting, anything like that, that what happens is an illegal ballot becomes a legal ballot as soon as it's put in the ballot box.
And so there is no way to separate that out.
And if a person has a voter history on both sides, the likelihood is that those ballots were counted twice because why wouldn't they have counted them?
And how would they have pulled it out?
It's not even, it doesn't even make sense that they could have potentially prevented that from happening.
Because if they process the absentee and then they process the precinct, I know they don't want you to think that, but it's almost impossible for it not to have happened.
And it's not the voters' fault.
It's the problem with the ballot boards processing ballots.
And any ballot not connected to a voter history should they shouldn't be allowed to count them until they're in the voter history.
Like they literally should be like, it can't go in the box over here until they put it in the voter history.
And we just know the counties have admitted to this.
I mean, it happened all across the state that they were behind and we know it.
How many?
300,000.
I want you to state that a little bit more clearly because I don't think the public understands this.
The state law requires that once they receive an absentee ballot, they must immediately enter it into the statewide voter registration system.
And the issue, just as you eloquently pointed out, is to prevent an absentee voter from going onto the Secretary of Websites and misinterpreting that their absentee ballot was not received.
And so when you have several counties that admitted to you that they didn't follow the law and didn't enter in the absentee information because there wasn't enough time, this broke Pandora's box to where we couldn't put it back together again.
And it destroyed the trust in the elections.
The other thing that we found out in Minnesota is that 19 counties committed felonies and had their sample ballots on the Secretary of State's website with the full timing marks on them and the word sample not on there.
So anybody could have printed out those ballots just like I did in Vindicating Trump.
And then those ballots.
That's right.
Special credit to Susan Chilber and Smith, who videoed Ezra and I going up and purchasing the ballots there in Minnesota, proving you could inject ballots.
So I've got to ask, in this particular race, are the 131 extra ballots from people who did a little slip of the wrist and injected an extra ballot.
Based upon these voter histories, I don't know.
I even went back to November 11th to find out if there were voters that potentially moved from November 3rd to the date of these voter histories.
And guess what?
Yeah, it's less than 20.
So I'm still well over 100 that I can't explain.
And so we have a lot of questions for Scott County.
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And my recommendation for the legislature is I think we need to call a few people to testify in front of your committee.
When we're going to take a quick break, when we come back, let's talk about some of the future steps that I think we need to do in Minnesota, but certainly other states should definitely copy from the lessons learned in Minnesota specifically.
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Hey, welcome back.
Rick Weil here with Representative Pam Altendorf and Susan Shogren-Smith.
It's great to have these two wonderful guests on tonight.
And so, Pam, what I want to relate to you based upon kind of the experience that Susan and I have had is when we talk with election officials, unfortunately, I want to kind of break the mold a little bit.
What we've discovered is that election officials, whenever they talk to you, or especially us, they'll say, well, we follow the law.
Well, one of the things I want you to do is make sure you put on your thinking cap and kind of go, okay, so when they say they follow the law, what are they actually doing?
And I would encourage you to actually start with this.
Number one, ask for every single county's logic and accuracy test report by precinct.
Then ask for the expected results worksheet that they work on for both Dominion and ESNS.
This is going to show us a lot.
What I've discovered in Minnesota is that most counties actually don't know how to test the election equipment appropriately.
If you get that information, I will work with you and actually show you that evidence that they're actually breaking the state law in most cases.
Number two, and an example is the post-election audit.
When we had several activists, especially in Anoka County, the Anoka County election integrity team, led by great volunteers up there, asking their cities and county to actually do more than the minimum standard of the post-election audit of the 5%.
Oh, even Steve Simon didn't want them to do more.
And even 100%, they fought against it because that wasn't random.
And so I wrote a letter back to them and said, well, if they randomly draw all of them, wouldn't it still comply with the law?
And they didn't write anything back.
That was the end of that.
So when they look at this, they only want to do the minimum standard.
And I'm going to tell you that when you look at a post-election audit, it really isn't enough because when we think about it, if you take 5% and you only look at two races, when you do the math, it's equivalent of giving the IRS one day of receipts out of 365.
And so when people realize that, that you, the House, those are better odds to commit fraud than Las Vegas because at least 3% to 5% they have to have out in payout.
Minnesota is only giving 1% of the evidence with that post-election audit.
So I'd encourage you to kind of be a little bit curious in those regards.
The other thing that we've discovered tonight is that the election law really works against candidates and activists and attorneys because when we have a canvassing board and then seven days after that to be able to file an election contest, and then you find out that, well, gee, the voter histories aren't done until 42 days after the election.
But in 2016, when we did the test of the poll pads, the knowing poll pads in Hennepin County, then in 2018 went statewide to use the poll pad, shouldn't this data already be there?
And especially when it comes to absentee balloting, we know they just have to click the button for the data to be transferred over to the voter histories.
Because remember, it says when they receive the absentee ballot, they must immediately enter it into the statewide voter registration system.
So the data is there.
Why are they waiting?
I think it's really important, I think, to understand a lot of our election laws have been in existence for decades, absolutely decades.
And they made a lot of sense when people were having to do things all by hand.
They were literally entering information by hand, having to update records by hand.
And it was overwhelming for a person that, you know, can you imagine a city clerk entering in 10,000 absentee voters, right?
Or whatever.
So this whole, this idea of these six weeks of information when it was at the precincts where they were doing all these same day registrations, which that's a different issue we should really be addressing about why are people registering same day when they have to have lived in the district for weeks before then when they could have registered to vote previously and not create chaos on election day for our election judges.
But when you just think about this issue about the law continues to allow precincts who mostly are using poll pads, so the information is actually immediately in the poll pad for most places around the state.
It's like if you buy something at the store on your credit card, and by the time you literally close your wallet, your bank already knows that the transaction happened.
There's zero delay.
The only reason for this delay, the only logical reason, is to allow shenanigans to occur so that they can manipulate the records by having people vote twice and then, you know, all these voter histories that don't exist and they can create them and college students that moved away and all this chaos that happens.
There's zero reason to allow six weeks for voter histories to be updated on the precinct side.
And we already know by law, the absentee ballots, those have to be connected to voter history immediately.
And the fact that the Secretary of State is not required to provide any voter in Minnesota all access to all absentee voters.
I mean, they actually are by law required to give it, but the Secretary of State sits on the absentee voter data for weeks trying to use this.
Actually, here's another thing.
The Secretary of State also, the last day that you could actually get data was November 1st.
And so we were blind to actual November 1st because it was 5 a.m. and when we got the data.
So we're blind November 1st through November 5th of the absentee ballots that were accepted and have to wait until the voter histories.
And so Rick, it's not November.
You're too nice, Rick.
No, no, no, no.
Hold on.
So now, Pam, what are some of the things that you've learned through this election that you're encouraged to bring forth into your committee and some of the reforms that you would like to see in Minnesota?
So I'm going to kind of let you wrap it up.
Just, you know, the one thing too is we were talking about on the break is these absentee balloting boards where we did not have equal representation.
And they were, I believe the law is correct, but we're going to have to make sure that it's crystal clear.
You know, there's in no scenario that you should have days and days and days of when there were Republican election judges available and they're not calling them into the counties to be participating in these absentee ballot boards.
And so that's one place that we really have to crack down.
And again, we just want a fair, transparent process.
At the end of the day, this should not be anything that anyone's arguing.
And certainly, if they are, that causes a problem, right?
You know, if they want us to not question the election results at the end of the day in some of these counties, we wouldn't be questioning it if there were two representatives the whole time on these absentee ballot boards, one Republican, one Democrat.
And it's very simple.
So we need to follow the laws and whatever we need to do to make that more crystal clear.
But I'm definitely looking forward to working with both of you.
And I know you've submitted other things in other states, and we don't need to recreate the wheel.
We just need to make sure we have a process that works.
Yep, you bet.
And so any activists out there, please contact the Lindell Network or drop an email to uscase.org.
I've now submitted legislation in North Dakota, South Dakota, Wyoming, Minnesota.
I'll be working on here.
South Carolina, I've been helping out behind the scenes there.
Texas, and even in Wisconsin.
So we at uscase.org will help.
And even the cause of America, even legislators, as you are out there as part of the Freedom Caucus, they're out there working as well.
And even Chuck Gray out of the great state of Wyoming, you need to be talking out there as well.
He's kind of seen some of the stuff that is out there.
And also, please, Pam, protect the right of the state party chair to audit the source code of the machines because we are looking to do that here in Minnesota.
So we don't need that door closed.
We are raising money to do the source code audit of both Dominion and ESNS.
And you can donate at uscase.org.
Thank you both so much for tonight.
We're going to keep on top of this case because I think this case is going to set quite a bit of precedence, plus the other case that you have there.
So those two cases are so important for Minnesota because if the Republicans can be successful in stopping the trifecta, it will force the Democrats to become more reasonable.
And I think you are right when you look at Minnesota's upcoming deficit, not in this biennium, but the next one, that's critical.
But also the election laws and the future of education in Minnesota as it continues to slip.
I think the Republicans are right to try and get the Democrats to come back to the table and start having the adults in the room.
Thank you for having me today, Rick.
I really appreciate it and I appreciate all the work you're doing to help us with the elections.
You bet.
So thank you guys.
Susan, I will talk to you later on tonight.
I've got some new data and Pam, I'll follow up with you some more breaking news regarding this case.
And America, stay awesome.
Stay prayerful.
Thank you for joining us tonight.
I'll be with you the rest of this week, whether it be live or pre-recorded.
We will have a lot of information from a lot of states out there to try and help you with some of the election reforms and some of the things that you can do.
And what Pam exemplifies is that there are a lot of great legislators out there that you can have great conversations with.
And so thank you, Pam, for taking time out of your busy schedule to actually talk with us here at the Lindell Report.
Such a gracious leader.
And I appreciate leaders like that who are just awesome Christians, who have an open heart and want to be public servants.
Thank you so much.
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